One More Week = DeProgram With Ted Rall and Jeff Dornik

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Good morning. It is Monday, October 26, 2026. And this
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is Deep Program with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas. Jamarl
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is on vacation this week. Filling in is Pickaxe CEO,
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Jeff Dornick. He's the CEO of Pickaxe. which is a
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free speech social media platform you should all check out.
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The co-founder of the Freedom First Network, and he hosts
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the Jeff Dornick Show, and he's co-authored books including Church
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and State and Social Injustice, and he focuses on free
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speech politics. Culture, Faith, and Challenging Big Tech Censorship. Here's
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what we've got for you in the next two hours.
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Jeff will be co-hosting for the first hour, and then
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Robbie West will be sitting in into Jamal's seat for
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the second hour. We go from 9 to 11, Monday, Wednesdays,
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and Fridays. We go from 9 to 10 on Tuesdays
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and Thursdays. Thanks so much for liking, following, and sharing
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the show, and for your continued support, which we very
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much appreciate. It's just saying, obviously, we are just eight
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days away from the U.S. midterm elections. But in truth,
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they've already begun because of early voting. So Democrats are
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heavy favorites in the odds markets, which currently have an
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85 to 95 percent chance of Democrats taking back the
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House of Representatives. They're projecting about 230 out of the
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435 seats will go to the Democrats. A slight favorite
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for the Senate. I'm skeptical on that. Oddsmakers put it
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between 55 and 75 percent. But anyway, there's a generic
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ballot lead of roughly eight to 11 points on that.
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And we're going to get into the implications and how
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likely those those predictions are to come to pass, because
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certainly we've seen mistakes in the past. Campaigning took place
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in a very hot state in the midterm elections in
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Michigan and Port Huron at a rally for Republican Mike Rogers.
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Trump played the Islamophobia card, calling Abdul El-Sayed a jihadist,
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saying that he wanted Sharia law. and said that Christmas
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would be banned if El Said wins. I'm not really
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sure legally how that would work. In foreign elections, we
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have some news out of Brazil. Lula came back 80
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years old, won a fourth term with nearly 52% of
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the vote. But his opponent, Flavio Bolsonaro, who is the
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son of the former president of Brazil, is very upset
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about it and refusing to concede. And in Serbia, Aleksandar
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Vucic has conceded defeat. He's basically dominated Serbian politics since 1987.
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So this is really an earthquake in Serbian politics. And last,
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and probably kind of least, but worth talking about, is
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the Young Turks video claiming that three guys claim to
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have had sex for money with the late Senator Lindsey
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Graham Good morning, Jeff. Thanks so much for filling in
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for Jamar.
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Thanks for having me on. Again, I always love chatting
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with you.
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So how, what do you, so what do you, and
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by the way, oh, and if you have questions, please
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go ahead and pipe those in and producer Robbie will
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go ahead and put them into the live chat here.
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If you are watching live between nine and 11 on Monday.
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Okay.
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So First of all, what do you make of the polls?
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Do you agree that, I mean, would you put money,
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if you're a betting man, would you put money on
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Democrats taking back the House and the Senate or just
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the House?
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Yeah, I would for sure, obviously for sure would put
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money on the House. I'd probably hedge my bet a
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little bit on the Senate. But I think the weird
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and crazy thing about this election cycle, and I think
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you and I have talked about this before, is that
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this thing is really going to come down to voter turnout,
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as it always does. But this time, it's really weird
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because I feel like, especially going on in the Republican Party,
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and probably to a certain degree in the Democrats, I
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don't think as much, but in the Republican Party, there
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truly is a civil war going on, and there's more
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and more Republicans that are talking about sitting out, not voting, blackpilling,
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the whole deal. And so when we're looking at it,
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it's like, OK, you know, it could go either way.
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It just depends on how fired up Trump can get
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his base. Can that offset the black pillars in the
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America first wing of the crowd? They're like, well, enough's enough.
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You know, war in Israel and all of these different
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things that are going on. And so I think that
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this one is going to be hard to predict, especially
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on a state by state basis. I think overall, I
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think I think Democrats are going to take the House,
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possibly the Senate. But it's going to be interesting to
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see which specific races either flip or change or surprise
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us because there is that wildcard factor of, you know,
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of Republicans that normally vote and have voted traditionally, you know,
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for years and years and years. I'd be like, dude,
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enough's enough. I like like Democrats, Republicans are two sides
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of the same coin. So what's the point?
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Right.
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So this is obviously a conundrum that people that all
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that all Americans who vote for one of the two
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major parties always go through. Right. The two party drop.
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You know, as much as I hate my own side
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for not coming through for me, I need to send
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a message to the other side who I hate even more.
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And obviously right now. The biggest problem that Republicans have,
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you know, people say it's Donald Trump. I think the
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biggest problem that they have is that they're incumbents, right?
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And people are, you know, really angry at the incumbency.
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By the way, just parenthetically, there's an ad that's been
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floating around Michigan, and now it's gone national. I'm sure
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you've seen it, where it's a couple shopping for groceries.
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And at one point, the woman says, like, oh, no, no,
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we can't buy eggs. Put those back. Because remember, we
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have to send money to kill Palestinians, is how she
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puts it, not to Israel. And then the husband says, like,
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wait a minute, don't we already send them $ 4 billion
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a year? And she's like, well, no, actually, we have
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to just send them another $ 26 billion. That ad is
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being characterized by Zionists as anti-Semitic this morning. That's the
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talking point all over the internet. I'm sure you've seen it.
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And I'm like, OK, let's just say you hate the ad.
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And just let's just say that you stipulate that, you know,
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aid to Israel is important for whatever reason, but how
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is it anti-Semitic? It's like the, you know, it doesn't
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say like we're sending money to Jews. It says we're
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sending money to the state of Israel. It would be
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no different than saying that, you know, if we're sending
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money to Somalia, like, Oh, it's an anti-black ad or,
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you know, it's like, no, it would just be an,
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and maybe an anti-Somali ad that you could say. I mean, it,
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It just feels like that talking point has exhausted itself
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and that Zionists are out of arrows in their quiver
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at this point.
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Well, I think they are. I think the problem is
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that they are holding on with everything they can to
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whatever power they can hold on to for as long
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as they can. I think they also know that it's
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largely a generational thing as well, especially when polling numbers. And,
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you know, like I think the perfect example is that
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was that primary race of Thomas Massey versus Ed Galerain,
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where the older you were, the more likely you were
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to vote for MAGA and the Zionists. And the younger
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you were, the more likely you were to vote for
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for Massey and his wing of the Republican Party and
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vote against Israel. And and I think that what's happening
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is you have the older generation of the Republican Party
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that's holding on to whatever the power they can for
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way too long. And I think they think to a
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certain degree that as long as we can just discredit
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these guys as a bunch of racist and anti-Semitic people,
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then this younger crowd, they're never going to take over.
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It's like you do realize how life works. Like at
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a certain point, you die. And then other people fill
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in the gap. And it's this revolving door kind of
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a thing. And it's very weird how the Zionist crowd
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doesn't understand that. And again, I'm one of those guys
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that I've been a lifelong Zionist myself. I've recently kind
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of walked away from that. I don't, I don't go
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full on to the other side, which is completely anti
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is like, to me, I'm just like, can we focus
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on America right now? Like that would be, that would
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be nice. I mean, we've got like, like it should,
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it shouldn't cost me, you know, $ 10 for a dozen eggs.
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It shouldn't like, I just, I just filled up my
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car the other day at, you know, I think, I
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think I paid like $ 7 and 49 cents in gas
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out here in California. It's bonkers. I'm like, I'm like,
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At a certain point, can we focus on these things,
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these things that you promised us in the 2024 election?
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Can we do that instead of fight this war on
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behalf of Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu and all that kind
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of stuff? And I think to bring it back to
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this ad, I think it's a phenomenal ad because it
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really hits home on the issue of, okay, who are
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we focused on? And the thing that I've that I've
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been warning Republicans for a long time and nobody listens
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to me because I'm just the crazy guy over here that,
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you know, you know, anti-Trump, whatever it is. But but
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like literally you're just like you go down, you go
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down the talking points, you look at the website of
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these Democrat candidates and and what they're doing is they're
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hitting home on the pain points that Americans feel. Now,
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me as a constitutional Christian conservative, I disagree with a
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lot of the conclusions and I disagree with the direction
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and the way that they want to fix it from
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these Democrats. But at the same time, I don't think
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that the American people, the everyday person that doesn't pay
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attention to day-to-day politics, really is looking at, okay, what
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is the solution that you're offering? What they're looking at is,
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do you feel my pain? Do you understand what the
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problem is? Oh, you're putting forth a solution? Great. Well,
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what's going on right now? Clearly isn't working. Let's try
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this guy over here. I think that for the day-to-day
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people that aren't looking at day-to-day politics and all that,
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but they're just trying to get through life, they're looking
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at who actually feels my pain or who actually says
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that they feel my pain. And that's going to impact
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whether they turn out to vote or not and all that.
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And I think that's where this midterm is going to
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be a wild card.
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I mean, I'm really glad that you brought that up.
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I mean, you know, Bill Clinton, of course, popularized the,
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you know, I feel your pain. And it was effective, obviously.
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people believed it. I was on the floor of the
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convention hall in 1992 when he gave that speech, and
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people all around me were crying. I mean, it was effective.
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I don't think that anyone feels that Barack Obama felt
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much of anything. Maureen Dowd famously called him Spock. And
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in 2016, But Trump definitely gave you, and I've said
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this before and I'll say it again, the Trump's gift
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and the reason that he won with millions of dollars
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running against a campaign with billions of dollars was because
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he was able to look out the window of his
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car driving through my hometown of Dayton, Ohio, where he,
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I think, went more than anywhere else in that cycle.
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And he was able to think, you know, look at
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those boarded houses and the closed down factories and and
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the opioid crisis and think, man, it would suck to
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live here. I wouldn't want to live here. And then
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go to a rally and say, man, it sucks to
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live here, right? And then people are like, yeah. And
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it's the first time that people felt seen by a
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politician from any party for years. That was Trump's gift.
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I don't want to ever say anything about him as
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a bad politician. I think He's one of the most
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gifted politicians of our time. And he's revolutionized campaigning in
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a way that, you know, analysts have not yet, you know,
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they're still using stump speeches. Like, no, no, Donald Trump
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killed the stump speech. That's done. And he's proven it.
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But now, is it the DC bubble? Is it the,
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I mean, in his second term, he has, I mean,
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he's basically telling people, I crap on your pain. Like, Oh,
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a small price to pay, he said over the weekend.
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You know, a little more in gas and groceries in
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order to make sure that Iran doesn't get nuclear weapons.
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You told us that you'd already made sure that Iran
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couldn't get nuclear weapons. You already told us that it
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was all nuclear dust, whatever that means. So, I mean,
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we don't really, the fear mongering doesn't work. We don't
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believe you. And so it's like, so you're basically telling
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us you don't care, you know, in terms of our pain.
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There's literally nothing more politically suicidal than that, as Joe
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Biden learned, too. He didn't he was like, well, you know,
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I don't the economy is better than you idiots think. Like, no,
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we'll tell you how the economy is. Yeah.
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been told that I actually had Tom Renz, who who has.
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he's actually friends with Bobby Kennedy and has a lot
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of connections with the White House and all that kind
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of stuff. And he was on my show last week
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and he said that basically Susie Wiles and the Trump
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administration has taken away Trump's access to social media. So
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he doesn't, he can't actually get on to X like
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he used to in his first term to see what
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people are actually saying. So they've actually become his gatekeepers.
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back to when Trump was campaigning, I was trying to
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get Kennedy to team up with Trump. And I went
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through Steve Bannon to get to the White House. And
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even Steve Bannon, right, who was close with Trump and
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ran his campaign and all that, he couldn't even get
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direct access to Donald Trump. And he had to go
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through somebody else who then squashed it when I tried
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to make this connection and then immediately came out and
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bashed RFK Jr. and said he's more progressive than even
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Joe Biden and the most progressive people out there. And
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you're just like, OK, so this is they clearly he's
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got gatekeepers. They're keeping them insulated because they know that
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if if they let them loose and actually connect with
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the people, then guess what's going to happen is he's
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going to realize, oh, crap, I'm like screwing all these guys.
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his own little bubble. I think I think that he's
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only being given the approved messages from people. And and
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so I think to a certain degree, he he's alienated.
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allowed it to happen. He didn't have to say, yeah,
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you know what? I should probably allow you to take
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X X and true social directly off my phone. He
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could have said, yeah, what? No, I want to hear
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from the people. But instead, he's allowing somebody and I
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would say Susie Wiles, if not a few other people.
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to actually control that message. I also thought it was fascinating.
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Did you see Trump's second endorsement of Benjamin Netanyahu on
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Truth Social?
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I did.
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I was reading through it, and number one, it was
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so flipping long that I was reading it the other night,
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and my wife looks over my shoulder, and she's like,
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what is that? The print is so small, because it
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was like a screenshot. And I'm like, she's like, that's
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a lot for like one single post. Because he basically
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admitted in there, and I don't even think he realized it,
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but he admitted in there, that they lied to us
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to get into the Iranian war. So in there, like
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he literally said, we attacked Iran the first time, we
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obliterated their nuclear program, we made it to where they
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can't achieve nuclear weapons, and then now we're destroying their
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navy and their military and controlling all these things. And
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I'm like, but you told us the whole reason why
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we're at war right now is because they were two
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weeks away, again, from nuclear weapons. So you just admitted
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that we're now stuck in this stupid Iranian war over
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a lie. And that's basically, that was my takeaway from
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his Benjamin Netanyahu second endorsement there.
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Yeah, it also, I agree with that. And I also
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thought it was so long winded that it almost reminded
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me of an ISIS hostage video. Like, you know, like, no, really, really, truly,
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you know, I'm being well treated by Benjamin Netanyahu. He's awesome.
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I love him so much. Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah,
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I guess the thing is, if things are exactly that
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way and he's being, you know, gatekept by, you know,
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Susie Wiles or whoever else, that's on him, right? I mean,
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and in terms of for us as voters, we can't think,
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you know, I mean, I remember reading histories of World
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War II where soldiers, German soldiers serving on the Eastern
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Front with inadequate, you know, winter gear were saying, ah,
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if the Fuhrer knew about this, he'd be really pissed. And, like,
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you know, we can't get into that mode, like, of
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sort of thinking, well, if Trump really knew what was
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going on, then, you know, he would fix it. Maybe,
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but that's sort of, that's not going to put any,
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you know, make eggs more affordable or make gas not
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$ 7 a gallon. So, I mean, so, all right, so
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let's get back to the midterms. I mean, it seems
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like this is an enthusiasm gap. It's like a flip
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side of 2016 in a way, because... In 2016, you
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had people like me who had supported Bernie Sanders in
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the primaries and then were very unhappy with not only
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the fact that Hillary Clinton was the nominee, but also
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with the way that she had treated Bernie Sanders and
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the progressive wing of the party. And basically, we don't
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need you. Go to hell. Drop dead. And we're not
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going to listen to you at all. And then, by
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the way, get really mad at us when we don't
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vote for her. But between $ 3 and $ 5 million... By
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some counts, Bernie voters did not show up in the
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general election for the Democrats, and that was a key
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contributing factor to Trump's victory. I don't think Republicans are
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going to flip and vote Democratic, but are Republican voters
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going to sit on their hands this week? Are they
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going to just sort of maybe think they have other
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things to do than vote, just because they're just not
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that excited about either side?
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Yeah, well, the more that I talk to people in
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kind of the America First wing, which I find myself
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more in alignment, obviously, than the MAGA wing of the
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Republican Party, even though I feel like I'm kind of
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in the middle of everybody where I don't agree with
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anybody and I agree with everybody simultaneously, which is a
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very weird position to be in. But the more that
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I'm talking to people, it seems as if what they're
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going to be doing is most people that I've talked
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to are going to vote in the midterms, but they're not,
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they're not voting in the national election, they're going to
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vote on the state basis, because that's where they actually,
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you know, care about that's where they feel like that
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they can actually affect change. And so I think I
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think that we're, we're going to see an increased number of, of,
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you know, Republicans specifically that are that are voting, but
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they're just refusing to vote for the National Republican Party,
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and they're voting on the for their local elections. And
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then you're just gonna have people that just they're just
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not They're not even motivated to take the time off
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of work or the time to get down to the
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polling or to write it out and mail it in.
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And it just because I think I think they feel
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they feel betrayed because and I think rightly so. And
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this this is the thing that like for me as
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a lifelong Republican, I've been I've been trying to raise
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and I get I get a lot of crap from
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a lot of the Republican leaders because of this. But
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but I'm like, you know, you have to address these issues.
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And this is this is the problem. You promised us
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no regime change wars, no forever wars. We're going to
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get out of the foreign interventionism. That was a huge
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part of the campaign that brought in the former Democrats
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like RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and all that kind
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of stuff and brought in that part of the big
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tent you know, GOP in 2024. That was the promise.
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And then what do you do? You go in and
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you basically do a regime change overnight in Venezuela. And
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then you go into Iran thinking you could do the
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same thing you did in Venezuela in Iran, which is
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the dumbest thing you'll possibly think of. And then they
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were floating the idea of doing this in Cuba. And
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they're still talking about doing this in Cuba now. And
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you're just like, this is not what you promised us.
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Kennedy was going to get in there and, and, uh,
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pull the, uh, you know, pull the mRNA shots. That
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clearly hasn't happened. Uh, I'm, I'm told that, uh, that
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he was basically given a sandbox and you, you can
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do whatever you want in this little sandbox, but you
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can't touch our mRNA. You can't touch this. You can't
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touch that. You can't touch that. And, uh, so he basically.
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Has big food is still running rampant, right?
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Big food, big ag, I mean, they're putting pesticides in,
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in the foods. They're approving all of these toxic things.
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And I'm like, Kennedy, come on, get with the program.
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And then you've got, you know, Cash Patel and Bongino
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and the FBI and the DOJ that they've clearly not
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drained the swamp like Cash Patel promised me he would
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when he was on my show before he became FBI director.
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You know, they gaslight us repeatedly on Epstein, on even
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the JFK files. And then, you know, now with this
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Brian Cole Jr. case that's going on, like that one,
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like makes me more livid than anything about seeing them
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arrest this autistic black kid in order to cover up
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the Capitol Police officer who's the one who actually planted
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the bombs, who, oh yeah, now works for the CIA.
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Shocker.
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And we're just sitting there and we're just like, guys,
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if you would just stop gaslighting us and acting as
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if you didn't make all these promises, then I think
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people could be like, yeah, you want things have changed
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and whatever it is, but you can't do a 180
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and And then pretend like you never made the promise
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and then be shocked that people are like, dude, what's
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going on? You promised us this and now you're doing that.
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And I think that that's where the Republicans have gotten
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themselves in trouble and they got their hand caught in
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the cookie jar.
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Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I was also wanting to
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get your take. This is maybe more on from my
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side of the aisle, but there's sort of a phenomenon
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that we don't talk about a lot in political analysis about,
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you know, sort of the consent of the loser, right? So,
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for example, in 1988, George H.W. Bush wins. You know,
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I voted for Dukakis, but actually, that's a lie. I
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probably voted for Jesse Jackson that year. But the point
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is that, you know, I wasn't really sad because George H.W.
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Bush won because I thought fundamentally he's not that bad.
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He's not that he's a pretty reasonable guy. I mean,
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I don't think he's a fucking maniac. And then like so.
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And so I think, you know, you bring us back
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to twenty twenty four. when Trump was running again, I
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think a lot of Democrats, you'll note, they didn't freak out.
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There was no giant anti-Trump protests when he was inaugurated
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the second time. And I don't think that was just exhaustion.
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I think people were like, you know what? You know,
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he might end these wars. He might end the Gaza genocide.
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You know, that wouldn't be entirely bad. I had Democratic
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friends and liberal friends who said, you know, I like
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the Tulsi Gabbard thing. I like the RFK Jr. thing.
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So those people also, I think, are feeling really betrayed, right?
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So there's kind of like now there's a counter-coalition, an anti,
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you know, like, I want to send a message. I mean, granted,
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these people are all going to be terribly disappointed after
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the Democrats win and sell them out the way that
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both parties always sell us out, right? That's just an
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endless cycle, which we should talk about. But, you know... Yeah, so,
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I mean, I think that Trump's idea the first time
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around was, let's make things so vague that we'll be
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able to say that it means anything. Like, make America
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great again. Well, you know, what period are we talking about? How? What?
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as vague as make America great again. America first is like,
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you know, I'm not sure what America first is, but
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I know it doesn't mean H-1B visas. I know that.
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And I know it doesn't mean no job retraining for Americans.
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people are hurting here at home. I know that, right?
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I think, in a way, he boxed himself in a
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little bit with specificity, which was to be expected also being,
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you know, it's also a different deal when I think,
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you know, remember Anthony Weiner. The New York voters forgave
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Anthony Weiner the first time he screwed up. And they
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were like, okay, we'll let it go. You can stay
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in office. It's fine. And then he did it again.
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you a pass. It's not happening twice. I feel like
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the bargain that the American electorate gave Donald Trump in
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2024 was like, listen, we've forgiven January 6th. We are
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going to overlook all the litigation, some of which makes
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you look terrible. We're going to overlook some of the rhetoric,
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we're going to overlook everything. We know, we know you.
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It's like your ex-wife taking you back after you've gone
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through the ugly divorce and you've both cheated on each other.
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It's okay. We're getting back together now. We're remarrying, right?
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It's like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. We know each other.
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And it's like, OK, so now the American people, I think,
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are feeling double betrayed because it's like we took you
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back despite everything and you were highly problematic. We would
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have never taken anyone else back. And now look at
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what you did.
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Yeah, no, it's a it's a very good it's a
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very good point. And I think that I think Trump's
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interpretation of it and probably also the people around him
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and the diehard MAGA, you know, people. is that America's
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MAGA now, right? The Republican Party is MAGA now, and
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he won because of the MAGA vote. And you're like, no,
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he won because he had all these different individual constituencies
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that he catered to during the run. And then he
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made all these different kinds of promises that he didn't keep.
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So basically, it was kind of a fraudulent campaign when
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you think about it, because they campaigned on things that
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within a year, he was already doing a complete 180 on.
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And I think that the difference too is that in
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Trump 1.0, There was– obviously because we lost the midterms
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in that one, which again, most of the time, the incumbency,
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they lose the midterms. They lose at least one or
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both of the chambers of Congress, and that's just, in
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my opinion, to be expected, right? But at that point,
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there was some discontention amongst the Republicans where it was
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like he hasn't done this, he hasn't done that. But
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that was just something where he hasn't accomplished, again, those
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vague promises that he had made yet. This is different
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in that he's done a complete 180. And I think
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that this is where, you know, like a lot of
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people in, you know, and you had mentioned earlier about,
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you know, some of the things he was saying about, like,
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if if if Democrats win, no more Christmas and no
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more of this. And he's, you know what? And I'm
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just sitting there and I'm like, OK, when you actually
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sit down and you think logically and maybe correct me
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if I'm wrong, because, Ted, you probably know this better
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than I do.
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Right.
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But OK, so if the Republicans lose, let's say let's
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say they lose one or both chambers of Congress, let's
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say let's let's say for sure we lose. the House
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of Representatives, let's say hypothetically, you know, Republicans hold on
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to the Senate. Okay, Democrats win Congress. What actually happens?
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Because last I checked, you got to have legislation go
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through both chambers of Congress. You have to have the
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president sign into law. If he doesn't sign into law,
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it goes back and then they have to override it with,
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I think it's like two thirds vote and all. Like
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when you actually sit down and think about it, nothing's
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going to happen. So now 2028 is an entirely different conversation.
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Like that's a conversation about like, okay, now if you're
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going to run with the rhetoric of like Democrats are
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going to take away Christmas and implement Sharia law, that
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would be the theoretical scenario where they would do that.
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Not in the midterm because you still hold on to
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the White House. Let's say that they impeach Trump, kick
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him out, whatever it is. Well, guess what? You got J.D.
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Vance next. You kick out J.D. Vance. What happens? You
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have another Republican that's going to fill the plate. Like
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you're not going to have the Democrats run rampant on
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this country and be able to implement laws arbitrarily. That
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that are taking away your right to celebrate Christmas like
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that's just it's just not going to happen. So when
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you're thinking about it from that perspective, and I'm very
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tempted to to not vote, although, you know, I don't
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know if I can bring myself to do it. But
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when you actually sit there and think about it, like,
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let's say me not voting Democrats taking Democrats taking, you know,
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one or both chambers of Congress. All it's going to
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mean is that Trump's not going to accomplish things that
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he's trying to accomplish. And guess what? I disagree with
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what he's trying to accomplish. So technically speaking, the best
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thing to do would be to make it to where
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Republicans don't control the House and the Senate because I
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don't want Trump fast-tracking artificial intelligence in the way that
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he is. I don't want him continuing this war in Iran.
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I don't want him basically doing his actual, not his
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state of platform, but the platform that he's actually implementing.
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I don't like it. So wouldn't the most effective thing
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to do basically mean to where you can't really get
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anything done?
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Vote for some gridlock.
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Right.
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But there's no gridlock. Trump is ruling by executive order.
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What is Congress actually doing? Nothing.
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Nothing.
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It's all executive order. He's not going through the congressional system.
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There is something to that.
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I think there is something to that. I think the
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flip side is that– because the Republicans are constantly running
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on the fact that the Democrats will just hold up
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Trump and they're going to– to vote to impeach and
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just probably do impeachment after impeachment after impeachment. That's fine.
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But again, that will control what's going on to a
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certain degree. But I agree with you, Robbie, especially right now.
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He's running on executive order. But to a certain degree,
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there's only so much you can do on executive order.
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And on top of that, that can all be undone
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by the next president. And if he can't get legislation passed, then,
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you know, this is going to be just like a
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flash in the pan, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I mean, well, let's talk about the one real
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implication that will happen from the Democrats taking back the House.
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I'm going to buy into that and assume that can happen. Obviously,
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the subpoenas are going to be flying fast and furious.
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There's going to be, you know, the House Oversight Committee
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will no longer be under James Comer. There's going to
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be maybe another, I would assume, another effort to impeach
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President Trump over something, probably not emoluments, which is what
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it should have been the first time. and should be again.
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I mean, this is where Democrats kind of will, if
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they go that, they're kind of stuck between a rock
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and a hard place, right? I mean, if they don't,
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they kind of, the red meat of the base wants blood.
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They want these investigations. They want subpoenas. They want Trumpies
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dragged in front of the cameras and forced to testify
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over and over. But that's all a distraction from the
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needs and wants of the American people. And while they're
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doing that, they're not even thinking about if there's something
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they can do about the price of eggs. They're not
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focused on anything like that. And I don't really believe
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that the Democratic Party can do both at the same time.
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They won't. They'll be like, we're going after the Trumpies.
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And that'll just seem like, here we go again. And
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the voters will be in an ornery mood of a
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different flavor. in two years. Um, you know, I mean,
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am I wrong?
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No, I think you're right. But, but, you know, both,
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both parties play this game of, you know, just pointing
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out the most evil, crazy, whatever about the other side.
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I mean, it's, it's why, again, it's, it's another, it's
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another reason why a lot of, a lot of former
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Trump supporters are not voting for him is that he
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didn't go after the, the, the Democrat party with the
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DOJ and, and all of that. Again, the Republican party
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was out for blood. And, you know, and I think,
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I think a lot of it was somewhat justifiable in this,
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in the sense of a lot of us have, have
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been directly impacted by the censorship regime of, of Joe Biden.
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Not to say that Trump's not implementing his own censorship
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regime as well, which, which is, which is actually happening.
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But it's like, but like when you think about it,
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it's like, there's a lot of people that dealt with
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very real world scenario problems. Like, like for example, like,
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A buddy of mine, Brandon Strzok, the founder of the
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walkaway movement, he had his door broken down by the
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FBI and arrested for his involvement in J6, where he
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literally stood on the opposite side of the Capitol building
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and didn't enter the building, nothing along those lines. And
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they said that he was trespassing because he was beyond
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the point of where the barriers were supposed to be.
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Not that the barriers were there, but where the barriers
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were supposed to be. And they said, because he was,
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he was where that theoretical line was supposed to be.
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Cause somebody else had moved the barriers that they, that
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they arrested him. So like, literally I know, I personally
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know people that have been like targeted by the FBI
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because of who they were found on technicalities and all like,
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so from that standpoint, it's like, there is a justifiable
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like seek of like vengeance or a revenge or something
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along those lines, because like everyday people have been caught
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up in this kind of political feud and weaponization of
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the government. But the problem is, is that, you know,
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it's like at a certain point, you can only go
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after your enemies so much before people like, but what
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about me? Like, look at my inflation. Like, look at
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my real world issues that I'm dealing with. And then
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guess what? Inflation is going crazy. But what's going to
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happen when AI is fully implemented and everything's automated and
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I don't have a job anymore? Like, what's life going
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to be like then? And nobody's talking about that because
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it's so much about like, the Democrats are evil and
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we're going to lock them up, even though Trump said
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we're never going to lock them up. And you're just,
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it's such a weird fight because nobody's actually focusing on
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the American people. And the one thing, I'll throw this
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out there and then I'll throw it back to you, Ted,
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is that my thing is when I'm looking at President Trump,
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I think that part of what's happening is the gatekeepers.
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Part of what's happening is, you know, again, they took
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away his access to the American people from social and
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all that kind of stuff. But part of it is
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I think Trump's true interpretation of America first is coming
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through in the sense that he's looking at America first
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as America the entity, America the country. So how could
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it be the world's biggest superpower? How could we have
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the world's biggest economy and the biggest GDP and the
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biggest stock prices and this, that? And what he's doing
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is he's making deals with other countries. He's making deals
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with big corporations. He's fast-tracking artificial intelligence because he wants
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to be the top dog in the AI race and
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beat China and all that. But who's getting hurt? It's
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the American people. So he's putting America the entity first
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and not Americans first. And I think that that's the
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problem that the Republicans are facing right now is that
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I think the Trump base has an interpretation of America first,
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meaning– He's putting the American people first because that's what
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he pitched us back in 2016. And Trump is running
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with putting America the country first. And how do we
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beat everybody else in all of these stupid races? And
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it's like, OK, but at what cost? Like, OK, great.
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We win the race against China. OK, you know, because
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we're going to fight against communism. But then it's literally
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going to usher in communism here. So really, what's the
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difference between us and China if we both are doing
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the exact same thing?
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Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought this up. And
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by the way, Robbie, please tee up the ad that
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you brought up. Just keep it, get it ready, but
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don't play it yet. So, you know, in my view,
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that used to be the big distinguishing definition between people
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would ask, what's the difference between left-wing and right-wing politics?
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And I would say, well, in America, the left-wing vision
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of the country is sort of a European French style. Like,
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you know, we are, you know, what really matters is
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people's individual rights as an individual and their rights and
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their privileges, you know, whether that be social programs or
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free speech or whatever. And right-wing politics writ large is
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more about the glory of the state and sublimating individual rights.
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That's breaking down. That's no longer, I mean, we're seeing
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authoritarianism on the left, you know, not just cancel culture,
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but we're also seeing, you know, just like the, you know, well,
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for example, the Democrats have become the war party more
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than the Republicans have. So we're in the middle of
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this massive realignment. And in fact, my column this week,
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which I just wrote the first draft of yesterday, is
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about whether there's common ground between the populist left and
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the populist right that can you know, can form actually
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a viable, not minor third party, but like a new
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major party. Is there common ground there? And it's like
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something I want to talk to you about. But let's
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watch this ad, Robbie. This is sort of about, this
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sort of helps frame the issue. Robbie, go ahead and
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play it.
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Why does Israel matter to America? Because we get practical benefits.
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A strong Israel helps keep Americans safe. Israel shares intelligence
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that helps identify threats before they reach us. It confronts
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dangers on the front lines, so American troops are not
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drawn into a wider conflict. That cooperation helps keep war
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and terror threats far from our shores. Fewer threats, less
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risk to Americans. A stronger Israel means a safer America. Wow.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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That's something. So it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like,
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but wait, right now we're in a war because of Israel.
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You know, Osama bin Laden said that he attacked us
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on 9-11 in part because of Israel's occupation of the
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occupied territories. You know, but it's amazing. Go ahead, Robbie.
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Well, I have a question for both of y'all. I mean,
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y'all do politics for your living. Isn't that ad the
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very definition of foreign interference in American politics? I mean,
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isn't that exactly what that is? Isn't that a foreign
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nation directly trying to influence how American voters vote?
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Sure. I mean, I think they're really thinking about hacking
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voting machines and, you know, what Russia supposedly did in 2016,
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but didn't. You know, that's what people think. But you're right.
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It is absolutely foreign interference and you know, in, in,
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in an American election, no question about it. But I mean,
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so getting back to the populist left populist, right. Is it,
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I mean, I was thinking about like, what would it
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take for such an alliance to work? And, and very
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clearly the populist left would have to do something that
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would be kind of not too hard, which is to
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sort of shed away a lot of the, you know,
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walk away or back burner, a lot of woke stuff, right. Like,
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you know, um, trans athletes in girls' sports and stuff
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like that. Most left-wing populists, socialists and left libertarians and
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communists don't care about that stuff much anyway. So they, that,
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that'd be a pretty easy gimme. I think where the
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challenge would be like, and we'd all agree, okay, we
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resources and attention should be focused on the American people
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first control our borders. You know, if the unemployment, as
747
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I always say, if the unemployment rate is over zero,
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no H1B visas. Okay. So like, But then, so that
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kind of thing, we could all, I think, get on
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the same page there. I think where trouble would be like, okay,
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so we've now, we're no longer sending money to Ukraine
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or Israel or, you know, God knows where else. And
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we're now, So the question is, what happens to that
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money next? I think that's where a populist front has
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its challenges, right? Because the left would say, now let's
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do some jobs retraining programs. Let's help poor people. Let's
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address the opioid crisis and help people get into rehab
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and stuff like that. And I think a lot of
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people on the right, please elucidate me, would probably say, well,
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we should pay down the deficit. We should become fiscal
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conservatives first. That's what we should be doing with the
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money instead. I mean, is that where the problem would be?
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Well, I think that, you know, I think number one,
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I think that kind of coalition, and I've often thought
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about this because there is, like, when you think about it,
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going back to Trump back in 2016, there was a
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lot of overlap between him and Bernie Sanders. They just
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came to different conclusions. They came to different, you know,
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applications of how do we fix the problem and all
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that kind of stuff. I think that... There is a
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very plausible thing, and I've spoken with a few different
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people in and around Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and
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that's one of the things that they're actually discussing, is
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getting a viable third party where they bring in more
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of the Bernie Sanders-type Democrats that they can kind of
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coalesce around. I think that, to me, I think that
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the scenario where it could potentially work, but I don't
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see it living... long-term, but for the short-term, I think
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it can actually be effective, is that you have one
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party that agrees on the fundamental core issues. Like, okay, look,
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we all disagree on, like, all these different things, but
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we agree we need to put America first, we need
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to secure our borders, we need to stop funding, you know,
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not just Israel, but, like, all these countries that we're
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sending billions and billions and billions of dollars to, no
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foreign interventionism, you know, actually put America first and put
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the American people first. I think if we focus on
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fixing the problems, I think that we could actually come together.
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The thing that I've thought about is that what if
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it was one party, but two different wings? So like,
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for example, like in the Republican Party, at one point
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you had the Tea Party, right? So it was a
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movement within the Republican Party. What if you went into
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it with the understanding that almost like you're going to
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have two caucuses within here, within the same whatever third
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party is. You're going to have the third party that
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trends left and the third party that trends right. And
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that you guys are going to duke it out. We're
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going to agree on these fundamental things. We're going to
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fix this. We're going to do this. We're going to
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do this. And then we'll duke it out here. And
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then maybe when it comes to actually voting for legislation,
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one caucus will typically vote Republican. This caucus will typically
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vote Democrat. But when it comes to we're going to
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agree on we're going to stop sending money to Israel.
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We're going to stop sending money to Ukraine. We're going
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to deal with this problem with China. We're going to
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deal with the borders. We're going to deal with AI
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and how it's going to take away everybody's jobs. We're
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going to deal with all that. I feel like there
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could be a very plausible, realistic scenario where like, if
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you commit to actually fixing those things, put aside all
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the rest of the differences, I think there could be
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a very real scenario where you could see a legitimate
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third party rise up. But I think you would have
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to go into it with the understanding that there are
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going to be two caucuses or two wings within that
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same party. And you, and that that's the pitch is that,
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you know, we're not going, we're not going to tell you,
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you have to set aside everything permanently for this.
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Right.
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Keep your identity, keep your belief system, keep all of that.
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We're just joining together to fix these things right here.
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We're just creating a new tent. We're just moving the
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parties into a new tent, right? Like we're stealing MAGA
826
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from the Republicans and we're stealing the Bernie bros from
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the Democrats and they come together under one tent. I mean,
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I'm being very, very facile and generalistic here. But I mean,
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I think, I mean, I do see, I mean, this
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is kind of like the famous speech that the leader
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of the Afghan resistance, Ahmed Shah Massoud said, when he
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unified all the tribes of Afghanistan against the Soviets, and
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he toasted them all with apple tea. And he said, first,
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we kill the Russians. Then we kill each other. In
835
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other words, first things first.
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Right.
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One thing that I think that you're missing about the
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populist right and populist left, they're not typical Republicans. Now,
839
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the Republicans always talk about paying out of the deficit.
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The deficit always grows under them. What I'm about to
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say is probably... represents maybe 90%, if not more, of
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the America-first right-wingers like me. They would actually side with
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the populist left on the priorities about what to do
844
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with the money from foreign aid. You'd be hard-pressed to
845
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find a better way to pay off the national debt
846
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than get all these people who are addicted to opioids
847
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running around San Francisco like zombies. They get them clean,
848
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get them jobs. And paying taxes. Actually get them to
849
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be productive. That's how you pay down the deficits, but
850
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it's through productivity. So you drop the drug dealers out
851
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of airplanes, Afghan style. You clean up the junkie, get
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them into the workforce. The tax revenue comes in, the
853
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problem is solved. And you're killing tubers with one stone.
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You're getting rid of the social pathogen and the fiscal suicides.
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A little breaking news, by the way, about AI-related. Anthropic
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just released its IPO financials. They're admitting to something that
857
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we did not know prior, that they currently have an
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$ 80 billion loss on their books as they go into
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their IPO.
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That's wild. Yeah. Well, the thing, and I've got some
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friends that do a lot of investing and all that
862
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kind of stuff. And and they've been telling me for
863
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a long time that, and I think Elon even just
864
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confirmed this the other day on Twitter, that, that the,
865
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that there's going to be a, basically an AI bubble
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because there's so much money that's being, that's being thrown
867
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into this thing. Not to say that AI is going
868
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to go away. Cause I think, I think that these get,
869
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there's no way that they're going to let it go
870
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away because they're, you know, this is how they dominate
871
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all of us and rule the world and centralized power
872
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and all that kind of stuff. But I think that, that,
873
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when you think about it, it's not just a couple
874
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of companies that are investing a lot of money. It's
875
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every single industry, every single vertical in our economy is
876
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investing money into artificial intelligence development and integration. There's so
877
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much like companies are going into debt. Like, like take,
878
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take rumble, for example, like rumble has been, has been
879
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losing on their stock and their stocks for years. They've
880
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been in the red. So what do they do to
881
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keep the shareholders happy is to get into the AI
882
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game and AI development and computation and data centers and
883
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all that. So then that way they can say, look,
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keep your stocks, keep your investments in rumble because you're
885
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investing for the future, right? But if the entire industry
886
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is going into debt and investing, quote unquote, for the future,
887
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that's a bubble that is going to burst because there's
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not enough money to go around unless we're just going
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to print ourselves.
890
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And there's no present.
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Right.
892
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Yeah.
893
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I mean, that's kind of like, I mean, you know,
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and I do think that is kind of like the
895
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problem maybe with government is that, I mean, I don't
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even understand, like, for example, you know, we're talking about,
897
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we all know the disruption that AI is causing already
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in the jobs market. We know, for example, whether it's,
899
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you know, obviously I think it's caused by humans. It
900
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doesn't matter. We know climate change is happening and we
901
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know we're going to have to deal with it. Why
902
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don't we have blue ribbon commissions anymore of very, very
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smart academics and other people who get together and advise
904
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the government and testify before Congress? Like, okay, so AI
905
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is coming and here's some of the possible solutions we
906
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could do if we wanted to. I mean, that's the
907
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part that's so frustrating to me. We are supposed to
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be a smart country and we literally, we can see
909
00:48:00.659 --> 00:48:03.369
this train rolling towards us at one mile an hour
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and we're just not getting out of the way. Yeah.
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Well, but a lot of it is that, OK, who's
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who's going to pick who's going to pick these, quote unquote,
913
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experts in order to do the testifying? It's going to
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be the ones that fit in with whatever whatever the
915
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narrative is, you know, of whoever's in power, you know.
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And I think that that and that's one of the
917
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interesting things, too, is that because Trump has been fast
918
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tracking AI, you've got the Democrats that are that are
919
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quickly becoming the anti AI crowd. And, but, but it's
920
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funny because it's like, well, but they were the ones
921
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that were pro Silicon Valley and all the tech, you know,
922
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you know, development and all that kind of stuff. And
923
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it's like, again, it comes back to, it's kind of
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two sides of the same coin. And I think to
925
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a certain degree, it's probably controlled opposition of some kind
926
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because they just know it. This, this is a good
927
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pitch to the, to the, to the people of like,
928
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we're fighting for you against the tyrannical Donald Trump that's
929
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centralizing all the power and taking away your power with
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AI and all that. All that, all that to say
931
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is that it's like, that's, that's, that's one of my
932
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biggest frustrations is exactly what you said is, Like AI
933
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is not going away. The question that I've been posing is,
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what do we want America to look like in the
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era of artificial intelligence? And nobody wants to have that conversation.
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The only people having that conversation are Elon Musk and
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Sam Altman and all that kind of stuff that like,
938
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you know, like Elon is pitching his. his version of
939
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a communist utopia, which is basically AI and robotics will
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00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.710
do everything, will do nothing, will be completely reliant upon them.
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And then we could just go about and live a
942
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hedonistic lifestyle and do nothing and have no purpose and
943
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all that. And that's just a byproduct of development. Who
944
00:49:34.650 --> 00:49:37.840
really cares? And you're just like– but like I've got
945
00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:40.239
a four-year-old son. That's not the America I want my
946
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:42.980
four-year-old son to grow up in and become an adult
947
00:49:43.059 --> 00:49:45.559
in and live in this world where he has no purpose.
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00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.309
Is that really what we're all fighting for is– take
949
00:49:48.329 --> 00:49:50.230
away all of our purpose, take away all of our
950
00:49:50.349 --> 00:49:52.889
ability to earn and be self-sufficient and all of that.
951
00:49:53.389 --> 00:49:55.869
And it's like, these are conversations we should be having
952
00:49:55.989 --> 00:49:59.869
now before we get to the point of AI dominance
953
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and not wait until we're there. Like, oh, we should
954
00:50:02.610 --> 00:50:05.139
probably start having this conversation. Oh, our rights are already
955
00:50:05.179 --> 00:50:07.659
taken away. Sorry, guys. There's no point to having the
956
00:50:07.699 --> 00:50:08.360
conversation now.
957
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.380
Right. Well, yeah. I mean, of course, you know, look,
958
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I hear you about the Elon Musk vision of things.
959
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What's he call it? Not a, it's not a universal
960
00:50:18.130 --> 00:50:21.250
basic income. It's a very, it's a high basic.
961
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Income, which Trump is, Trump is now endorsing as well. Trump,
962
00:50:24.579 --> 00:50:26.679
Trump backed it. Like Elon literally said in front of
963
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.469
Trump and Trump's like, yep, that's where we're going.
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I mean, and look, I can see the problems with that,
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just as you described. But I can, you know, the
966
00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:37.030
problem of, you know, I can imagine doing nothing is
967
00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:39.969
going to end up like a dystopian wasteland where we're
968
00:50:39.989 --> 00:50:43.409
all eating out of garbage cans and killing. And, you know,
969
00:50:43.469 --> 00:50:46.590
there's no people are starving to death. It's I mean,
970
00:50:46.780 --> 00:50:48.500
that's where we're headed because we don't have much of
971
00:50:48.539 --> 00:50:54.590
a social safety net, not enough to cover this. Right. So, okay,
972
00:50:54.610 --> 00:50:58.650
so let's talk a little bit about this Lindsey Graham thing.
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I'm curious, as a person of the right, what you
974
00:51:01.929 --> 00:51:04.050
think about all this. I mean, I'm a little torn.
975
00:51:04.909 --> 00:51:08.340
On the one hand, I mean, I always like to
976
00:51:08.420 --> 00:51:13.760
see BS exposed. And the idea that Lindsey Graham wasn't gay,
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00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.320
as Marjorie Taylor Greene said, was always laughable, right? I mean,
978
00:51:17.340 --> 00:51:20.179
it was kind of like an open secret in Washington.
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00:51:20.539 --> 00:51:23.659
It was well known. He presented as gay. It's like,
980
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.800
if that guy wasn't gay, then there are no gay people. Like,
981
00:51:26.900 --> 00:51:29.019
that's a gay guy. And I know a gay guy
982
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.780
when I see a gay guy. And I think a
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00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:34.170
lot of particularly gay people and their allies, they looked
984
00:51:34.269 --> 00:51:36.550
at it and they're like, you know, it's annoying that
985
00:51:36.570 --> 00:51:41.170
you have a guy who votes against LGBTQ legislation and
986
00:51:41.730 --> 00:51:44.510
talks crap about us, but he's one of us and
987
00:51:44.630 --> 00:51:47.409
that should be exposed. And, you know, I'm sympathetic to that.
988
00:51:48.349 --> 00:51:52.329
On the other hand, it's nobody's business, right? And he
989
00:51:52.349 --> 00:51:57.230
didn't really want to share his truth, assuming that was
990
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.239
his truth. Now we have this video from Young Turks
991
00:52:01.699 --> 00:52:04.860
that shows three dudes who claimed that basically they were
992
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:13.880
gay prostitutes, who basically their customer was Lady Lindsay. And
993
00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:17.840
then I'm thinking, okay, but does this matter in any way,
994
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:21.860
shape or form? I mean, the politics of it just
995
00:52:21.889 --> 00:52:26.090
seemed tawdry. And so I can argue this either way.
996
00:52:26.150 --> 00:52:29.610
I mean, should we care? Why do we care? Does
997
00:52:29.630 --> 00:52:33.010
this have any, and this is obviously being released, you know,
998
00:52:33.090 --> 00:52:37.030
a week and a half, a week before a midterm election, uh,
999
00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:40.869
where Lindsey Graham's sister is running for his old seat
1000
00:52:41.389 --> 00:52:45.219
after he died. You know, that's, you can't miss the timing. Um,
1001
00:52:46.050 --> 00:52:46.750
What do you think about this?
1002
00:52:47.269 --> 00:52:51.230
Yeah, it's, it's interesting because I, um, I'm torn on
1003
00:52:51.309 --> 00:52:54.449
it because I, I see arguments on, on both sides
1004
00:52:54.489 --> 00:52:54.670
of it.
1005
00:52:54.739 --> 00:52:54.909
Right.
1006
00:52:54.929 --> 00:52:57.460
So like, um, like for example, like a good buddy
1007
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.400
of mine, uh, Chad Caton, he's from South Carolina. He
1008
00:53:00.420 --> 00:53:03.480
w he was one of Lindsey's grams, like toughest critics.
1009
00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:04.940
And he, he always referred to him as lady as
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00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.239
lady G and he's like, it was, it was, it
1011
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:11.280
was known in and around South Carolina. Like that's who
1012
00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:14.440
he was and all of that. Now, I don't necessarily
1013
00:53:14.500 --> 00:53:17.300
know if people knew that he was sleeping with like,
1014
00:53:17.500 --> 00:53:21.019
you know, underage boys and, you know, you know, hookers
1015
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.179
and all that kind of like, that's again, I think,
1016
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.860
I think a revelation to a certain degree, but I
1017
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.000
think the thing that people forget is that like, that's
1018
00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:33.360
also Washington DC. Like, like again, I've, I've, I've known
1019
00:53:33.409 --> 00:53:36.090
people a long time in, in, in and around DC.
1020
00:53:36.130 --> 00:53:38.570
I've known people in and around Hollywood. I've, I've, you know,
1021
00:53:38.670 --> 00:53:41.670
all that kind of stuff. Like, it's a known fact
1022
00:53:41.710 --> 00:53:44.309
that like the vast majority of the people that you
1023
00:53:44.789 --> 00:53:48.380
see and idolize and look up to that are famous,
1024
00:53:48.489 --> 00:53:52.719
like they've got some skeletons in, in their closet. Like the,
1025
00:53:53.219 --> 00:53:55.780
like the, like the fact that we had like a
1026
00:53:55.820 --> 00:53:59.760
congressional fund to basically pay off sexual harassment claims should
1027
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.260
be evidence of that. And you're like, well, like when you,
1028
00:54:03.300 --> 00:54:05.889
when you think about it, like, why should, why, why,
1029
00:54:05.989 --> 00:54:08.070
why do we need that? Like when you think, why,
1030
00:54:08.170 --> 00:54:12.010
like it's, it's weird. So I think when it comes
1031
00:54:12.030 --> 00:54:14.969
to this, for me, I'm not the biggest fan of
1032
00:54:15.590 --> 00:54:20.789
weaponizing this because to me, anytime you weaponize this kind
1033
00:54:20.809 --> 00:54:23.369
of a claim or an allegation against the other– the
1034
00:54:23.409 --> 00:54:26.570
quote-unquote the other party, the other guys, like you're being
1035
00:54:26.610 --> 00:54:29.380
hypocritical because your side is doing it too. Both sides
1036
00:54:29.739 --> 00:54:32.380
are doing the exact same thing that Lindsey Graham is
1037
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.000
doing except maybe they're not covering up the fact that
1038
00:54:35.019 --> 00:54:38.179
they're gay, right? But that's also happening a lot. I
1039
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:39.980
think it's also happening more than you think on the
1040
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:45.179
Republican Party side. It is. But also, like, the shenanigans
1041
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.469
that go on, like, I've been told by people that are, like,
1042
00:54:48.530 --> 00:54:51.030
in and around Washington, D.C., the shenanigans that go on
1043
00:54:51.309 --> 00:54:54.989
inside the congressional offices are out of control and wild
1044
00:54:55.070 --> 00:54:57.969
and crazy and, you know, sexual harassment all over the
1045
00:54:58.030 --> 00:55:00.750
place and, you know, and cover-ups and the whole deal.
1046
00:55:01.110 --> 00:55:03.769
For me, I say expose them all. Like, but we
1047
00:55:03.809 --> 00:55:06.579
shouldn't be doing it As just, okay, we're going to
1048
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.179
hold on to this until a week before the election,
1049
00:55:09.530 --> 00:55:12.050
and then we're going to weaponize this against the other side,
1050
00:55:12.449 --> 00:55:15.489
because why aren't you weaponizing it against your, like your
1051
00:55:15.510 --> 00:55:17.809
side's doing it too. And I think that that's the
1052
00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:20.070
problem with all of these hit pieces that we're seeing
1053
00:55:20.110 --> 00:55:23.090
going flying all about is that you're trying to craft
1054
00:55:23.130 --> 00:55:25.139
the narrative that the other side is evil, that the
1055
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:28.400
other side are hypocrites. It's both parties. Both parties are
1056
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.659
doing this. Both parties are sleeping with– there's a reason
1057
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:36.219
why prostitution is running rampant in Washington, D.C. It's because
1058
00:55:36.699 --> 00:55:39.210
it's Washington, D.C., and it's not just one party or
1059
00:55:39.269 --> 00:55:42.469
the other. It's all the parties. It's everybody in politics.
1060
00:55:42.570 --> 00:55:44.869
I've been in and around the political events. I've been
1061
00:55:44.909 --> 00:55:49.590
in and around Republican leadership. When you get these guys
1062
00:55:49.889 --> 00:55:52.599
away from the camera, you go over to a bar,
1063
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.280
you have a drink or have dinner or whatever it is,
1064
00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:55.929
a lot of these guys are some of the worst
1065
00:55:55.969 --> 00:55:58.650
scum you can possibly imagine. Like they, they, they truly are.
1066
00:55:58.710 --> 00:56:01.090
They are like, like you, like, you know, and we've
1067
00:56:01.150 --> 00:56:03.510
seen certain videos pop up of some of your favorite, like,
1068
00:56:03.929 --> 00:56:07.539
you know, influencers or commentators or whatever it is. Like,
1069
00:56:07.699 --> 00:56:10.940
they're all just like awful people. Like they truly are.
1070
00:56:11.420 --> 00:56:14.739
And I'm like, These are the people that we elect.
1071
00:56:14.969 --> 00:56:16.349
These are the people that we send our money to.
1072
00:56:16.389 --> 00:56:19.170
These are the people that we quote unquote support. They're
1073
00:56:19.190 --> 00:56:21.670
some of the worst people you can possibly imagine. And
1074
00:56:21.710 --> 00:56:23.789
it's not just one part. It's both parties. They're all
1075
00:56:23.829 --> 00:56:25.050
just awful human beings.
1076
00:56:26.150 --> 00:56:29.489
Well, I remember having this argument over with Scott Stantis,
1077
00:56:29.510 --> 00:56:33.130
who co-hosts the DMZ show with me. He's a conservative.
1078
00:56:33.250 --> 00:56:36.289
And he, about Larry Craig, the wide stance guy from
1079
00:56:36.309 --> 00:56:40.679
the Senator from Idaho in the St. Paul airport. And,
1080
00:56:40.699 --> 00:56:42.800
you know, she, he said, well, why are they picking
1081
00:56:42.820 --> 00:56:44.739
on him? I said, well, because he's a value, a
1082
00:56:44.780 --> 00:56:49.670
family values conservative, right? If you're Ted Kennedy and, you know,
1083
00:56:49.690 --> 00:56:52.730
you're sleeping and you're sleeping with everything that moves, you know,
1084
00:56:52.809 --> 00:56:56.260
he's not telling, he's not pontificating about, you know, morality
1085
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:59.719
or anything. He never claimed to be a moral, particularly
1086
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.840
moral person. His only promise is, you know, this is
1087
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.760
the way I'll vote. And, you know, and one of
1088
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.260
the ways I'll vote is pro gay rights. Larry Craig,
1089
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.219
there's a hypocrisy thing. I mean, there is, I mean,
1090
00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:12.420
there's something to that, right?
1091
00:57:12.460 --> 00:57:15.190
I mean, well, I think, I think that there, I
1092
00:57:15.210 --> 00:57:18.710
think that there is, there is something to that. I think,
1093
00:57:18.869 --> 00:57:22.190
I think that the other side is that the position, like,
1094
00:57:22.210 --> 00:57:25.929
for example, the young Turks are, And there's been a
1095
00:57:25.969 --> 00:57:28.420
lot of things I've been agreeing with with Cenk as
1096
00:57:28.460 --> 00:57:30.699
of late, you know, in a lot of his criticisms of,
1097
00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:32.699
you know, Trump and like all that kind of stuff.
1098
00:57:33.179 --> 00:57:35.780
But the fact that he's that he's doing that, he's
1099
00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:40.219
making putting out this documentary, exposing Lindsey Graham or whatever
1100
00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:46.750
it is, it's look at how bad he is. And, like, again,
1101
00:57:46.849 --> 00:57:50.719
you're not looking at your side. And I think that
1102
00:57:50.739 --> 00:57:53.739
the problem with this is that, like, Lindsey Graham, again,
1103
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:57.960
he's a traditional Republican. He's a neocon, whatever it is. Like,
1104
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.739
he's not, like, an evangelical leader and a super family. Like,
1105
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.440
he'll say family values stuff because he's Republican, but he's not, like,
1106
00:58:06.500 --> 00:58:09.809
the champion of, like, you know, like, super family organization
1107
00:58:09.829 --> 00:58:11.449
where you got to be super Christian all the time
1108
00:58:11.469 --> 00:58:14.289
and all that kind of stuff. And so from that standpoint,
1109
00:58:14.610 --> 00:58:16.889
it's like you're painting the Republican Party as the party
1110
00:58:16.929 --> 00:58:19.769
of family values, and thus anybody who's a Republican Party
1111
00:58:20.269 --> 00:58:23.690
now is a champion for those values. And so we
1112
00:58:23.710 --> 00:58:26.969
need to take them down a peg. The problem that
1113
00:58:26.989 --> 00:58:31.739
we have is like, okay, but who's really better? When
1114
00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:33.800
you think about it, Lindsey Graham or somebody on the
1115
00:58:33.820 --> 00:58:36.559
left doing the exact same thing. I think that's the
1116
00:58:36.579 --> 00:58:38.400
problem that I have, and this is where, for me,
1117
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.269
I'm like, Politics is two sides of the same coin.
1118
00:58:41.429 --> 00:58:45.090
Both parties are corrupt. Both parties are awful. And at
1119
00:58:45.110 --> 00:58:48.289
a certain point, let's just expose all the corruption. I
1120
00:58:48.309 --> 00:58:50.730
want to expose it all. Like, let's take out the Republicans.
1121
00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:53.380
Let's take out the Democrats. I'm sick of the corruption
1122
00:58:53.510 --> 00:58:56.219
in the bureaucracies and the FBI and the DOJ. And, like,
1123
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.719
I could just go down the laundry list of all
1124
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.429
the horrible things that are going on out there. But
1125
00:59:01.429 --> 00:59:05.690
I I did find it interesting though, um, that, uh, that, uh, one, one,
1126
00:59:05.809 --> 00:59:07.909
I forget, was it Tyler or something or other from
1127
00:59:07.949 --> 00:59:12.260
turning point USA? Um, you know, somebody shared, uh, the,
1128
00:59:12.340 --> 00:59:14.940
the documentary and was like, you know, Lindsey Graham was,
1129
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.659
you know, sleeping with underage boys and this and that
1130
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:20.900
and hookers and whatever. And he, and he shared it from,
1131
00:59:20.980 --> 00:59:23.159
and this is one of the, it's like the spokesperson
1132
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.030
of turning point USA. And, uh, they're like, Oh, we,
1133
00:59:26.190 --> 00:59:27.710
we all knew this. This isn't a big deal. And
1134
00:59:27.730 --> 00:59:29.929
I'm like, So you knew that he was sleeping with
1135
00:59:30.090 --> 00:59:32.150
underage boys and hookers and you're not going to be like,
1136
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.590
somebody should probably call the cops on this guy. Like
1137
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.699
nobody was like, that's my thing is like, I think
1138
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:38.199
that's it.
1139
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:38.400
Yeah.
1140
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.840
That's very illegal and very wrong.
1141
00:59:41.019 --> 00:59:43.219
Very. And so for me, I'm looking at this like, okay,
1142
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.079
we all had a hunch and we all knew that
1143
00:59:46.260 --> 00:59:51.400
Lindsey Graham was secretly closeted. Like that's couldn't prove anything.
1144
00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:51.719
Right.
1145
00:59:51.940 --> 00:59:55.409
Right. But like, don't share the video that's talking about
1146
00:59:55.449 --> 00:59:59.210
like hookers and underage boys and then and then be like, yeah,
1147
00:59:59.289 --> 01:00:01.000
we all knew this kind of a thing was happening.
1148
01:00:01.019 --> 01:00:03.239
This isn't a shocker. It's like this should be a
1149
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:05.619
shocker or else. Why didn't you call the cops? You
1150
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:05.960
know what I mean?
1151
01:00:06.730 --> 01:00:08.610
Well, no, I mean, I do know what you mean.
1152
01:00:08.650 --> 01:00:11.190
I feel like that is a huge thing, right? Like,
1153
01:00:11.210 --> 01:00:13.519
you know, you talk about all the people going out
1154
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.039
in D.C. for drinks and, you know, hitting the bar
1155
01:00:16.460 --> 01:00:20.300
and behaving badly. And that is definitely a bipartisan thing. And,
1156
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.929
you know, I mean, I always kind of wonder, like,
1157
01:00:23.349 --> 01:00:25.840
you know, it's like in England, whenever you find an
1158
01:00:26.050 --> 01:00:28.320
MP hanging from the ceiling of a dungeon with a
1159
01:00:28.380 --> 01:00:30.940
ball gag in his mouth, it's usually a Tory, you know,
1160
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.679
not a Labour Party person. And it's like, DC's a
1161
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.300
very buttoned up place, even for Democrats, right? They're uptight. They,
1162
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.260
you know, they dress like it's, you know, like it's
1163
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.610
the place where Laura Ashley never went away. You know,
1164
01:00:43.659 --> 01:00:46.710
it's like, it's just, it's seemingly, and people like that
1165
01:00:46.750 --> 01:00:50.809
tend to be, repressed people, tend to have dirty secrets, right?
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01:00:51.110 --> 01:00:54.380
I think if Lindsey Graham had been a liberal Democrat,
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he could have lived as an out gay man and
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01:00:58.099 --> 01:01:00.360
it would have been fine and nothing would have happened
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01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.800
and whatever. We're at the end of the hour. So
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we got you for that hour and really appreciate it.
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And please come back soon.
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Oh yeah, definitely would love to. Again, I always enjoy
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01:01:11.969 --> 01:01:13.889
chatting with you and talking and all that kind of stuff.
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01:01:14.409 --> 01:01:16.849
And especially a lot of these conversations are just, it's
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01:01:16.969 --> 01:01:20.710
fascinating because I feel like it's nice to actually have
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01:01:21.179 --> 01:01:24.909
conversations that aren't just two-party politics all the time you
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01:01:24.929 --> 01:01:26.889
know it's just like what are the issues let's deal
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01:01:26.909 --> 01:01:27.610
with them you know.
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Both parties do suck on that part on that we're
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definitely in full agreement about that thanks a lot jeff
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really appreciate.
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You thank you i appreciate it okay.
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01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.989
And that was Jeff Dornick, CEO of Pickaxe. Jeff, if
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01:01:44.010 --> 01:01:48.070
you're just joining the show, Jamal is out this week.
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01:01:48.130 --> 01:01:49.869
I'm not really sure what day, Robbie, what day is
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01:01:49.909 --> 01:01:51.210
he coming back? Is he back Friday?
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01:01:52.769 --> 01:01:56.940
I have no idea. His schedule is definitely open for interpretation.
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01:01:57.940 --> 01:02:00.659
So it could be Friday. It could be next Monday.
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01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.059
It could be the, I have no idea.
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01:02:03.380 --> 01:02:03.639
All right.
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01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:08.969
Well, and one thing, the chat over on, telegram i
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01:02:09.010 --> 01:02:11.329
don't know where i don't know which chats is able
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01:02:11.369 --> 01:02:14.130
to see but much of them are just spinning so
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01:02:14.150 --> 01:02:15.750
a lot of the questions i've been submitting i don't
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01:02:15.789 --> 01:02:18.050
think you can actually see them so whenever you're ready
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01:02:18.090 --> 01:02:19.869
let me know and i'll start reading the questions off
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to you.
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01:02:20.590 --> 01:02:22.980
Oh okay um they're spinning what do you mean spinning.
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01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.139
Uh just have the uh the the spit the spinning
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01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.139
wheel of death like telegram is trying to upload them
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01:02:29.219 --> 01:02:30.260
and but.
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01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:33.139
They're just okay yeah you know there's been uh the
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01:02:33.260 --> 01:02:38.550
purgatory The Internet's been acting squirrelly for a better part
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01:02:38.590 --> 01:02:41.369
of a week due to this PHP problem, which I
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01:02:41.389 --> 01:02:46.280
know you're familiar with. So, yeah, the whole global Internet
1206
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.360
has been acting very strange. And if you've been noticing
1207
01:02:49.619 --> 01:02:54.079
AI working slow or whatever, that might be why.
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01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:56.300
Look at what happened with us on the Bible study
1209
01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.989
on Friday. The atheist had to keep the needle moving
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01:03:00.050 --> 01:03:02.309
on a Bible study podcast for a solid six or
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01:03:02.349 --> 01:03:03.710
seven minutes, which is amazing.
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01:03:05.139 --> 01:03:08.380
Yeah, well, I did the least bad I was capable
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01:03:08.460 --> 01:03:11.949
of doing. I hope I wasn't too terrible. All right,
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01:03:11.989 --> 01:03:13.710
if you're just joining us, this is the second hour
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01:03:13.909 --> 01:03:19.230
of the program. Jamal is out probably through Thursday. He
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01:03:19.250 --> 01:03:22.070
had told us he wanted four days off, but when
1217
01:03:22.110 --> 01:03:24.130
we get more guidance from Jamal, we'll let you know
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01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:27.960
when he's coming back. I'm assuming Friday, but could be earlier,
1219
01:03:28.019 --> 01:03:32.599
could be later. And we just had Jeff Dornick, CEO
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01:03:32.619 --> 01:03:36.760
of Pickaxe, fill in. Jeff might be back Wednesday to
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01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:40.340
do the same thing. So let us know about that, Robbie.
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01:03:40.380 --> 01:03:43.739
Robbie is going to sit in the Jamaril seat for
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01:03:43.780 --> 01:03:46.289
the second hour. This is also the Q & A
1224
01:03:46.349 --> 01:03:49.789
part of the show. So if you have a question,
1225
01:03:50.309 --> 01:03:52.590
please like, follow, and share. And please post that question
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01:03:53.090 --> 01:03:55.789
in the live chat in the 10 o'clock hour Eastern
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01:03:55.829 --> 01:03:59.619
time on this Monday, October 26th. If you're watching later,
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01:03:59.739 --> 01:04:01.429
you know, watch live if you want to be able
1229
01:04:01.449 --> 01:04:04.989
to ask questions. You can also send us an email
1230
01:04:05.070 --> 01:04:07.909
to ask us questions or leave a voicemail even, and
1231
01:04:07.929 --> 01:04:12.670
we can even play it at deprogrampodcast at gmail.com. Okay,
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01:04:13.699 --> 01:04:19.039
enough of that. Okay, so do you have any thoughts
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01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:20.679
about the Lindsey Graham thing before we move on?
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01:04:21.530 --> 01:04:23.989
I think that the fact that he was a sword
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01:04:24.050 --> 01:04:26.869
swallower is a non sequitur. The fact is that he
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01:04:27.050 --> 01:04:32.409
was a disgusting, warmongering, bloodthirsty goblin who is roasting in
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01:04:32.469 --> 01:04:36.090
hell right now is outstanding. And I think that's something
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01:04:36.139 --> 01:04:38.139
that people on the left and the right can agree.
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01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.380
Hell was created for people just like hell.
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01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.739
I really hope, you know, at times like this, I
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01:04:45.780 --> 01:04:50.079
really hope hell exists. It does. It's real. All right.
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01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:52.429
Let's have some. Oh, I think I see all the
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01:04:52.469 --> 01:04:55.610
questions coming up. Start slowly. Okay, here we go.
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Ah, success.
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01:04:56.949 --> 01:04:59.469
They came up. All right. Let's see what questions we have.
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01:05:00.230 --> 01:05:00.710
All right.
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01:05:01.449 --> 01:05:05.510
It's like the first one will be the one from
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01:05:05.630 --> 01:05:08.420
Philip Blair about Blood Libel. Did you see that one?
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01:05:08.449 --> 01:05:09.750
I put it on the APAC ad that I found.
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01:05:09.809 --> 01:05:12.010
All right. I got you. Okay.
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01:05:12.190 --> 01:05:13.769
I didn't see the grocery store ad, but I found
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01:05:13.789 --> 01:05:16.539
that APAC ad that we played. And it takes a
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01:05:16.579 --> 01:05:20.159
lot to really honestly make... I get pissed off about things,
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01:05:20.219 --> 01:05:22.639
but as far as making me mad, it takes a
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01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:24.079
lot for a political ad to make me mad. That
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01:05:24.099 --> 01:05:25.679
AIPAC ad pissed me off.
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01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:27.940
Well, what pissed you off about it?
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01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.820
Just the gall. Why Israel matters to America. Why America
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01:05:33.940 --> 01:05:39.280
needs this little piss-ant, racist, disgusting country on the eastern
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01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:43.440
bank of the Mediterranean that contributes absolutely nothing. It's a leech.
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01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:44.699
It's hilarious.
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01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.739
They claim that, like, You know, they provide vital intelligence.
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01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:53.679
It's like, be serious. We have 330 million people. They
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01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:57.360
don't even have 10 million people. I mean, seriously, this
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01:05:57.380 --> 01:06:00.880
would be like, you know, why Lichtenstein matters to America.
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01:06:01.619 --> 01:06:08.840
Without Lichtenstein, America could die. If that's true, we deserve
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01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.219
to die. We're too weak to live.
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01:06:13.130 --> 01:06:16.090
Listen, in fairness, Lichtenstein is the world's largest producer of
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01:06:16.130 --> 01:06:19.309
false teeth. So if you've got to have that, at
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01:06:19.349 --> 01:06:23.289
least they produce something of value. What exactly of value
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01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:24.250
does Israel produce?
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01:06:24.780 --> 01:06:28.079
Well, they used to be known for their tech sector, right?
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01:06:28.139 --> 01:06:31.739
Like Waze was an Israeli company before Google bought it.
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01:06:34.619 --> 01:06:38.119
But I mean, that's because these corporations are all multinational.
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01:06:38.579 --> 01:06:40.880
People keep saying, well, Google is an American company. No,
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01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:46.150
it's not. It's a multinational company. I don't even know
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01:06:46.170 --> 01:06:49.210
what that even means anymore. So just because your corporate
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01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:54.409
headquarters is in Seattle or in Tel Aviv doesn't mean
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01:06:54.449 --> 01:06:57.389
that you're going to represent the interests of the place
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01:06:57.409 --> 01:06:58.750
of which you're based in.
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01:07:00.150 --> 01:07:00.309
Right.
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01:07:00.849 --> 01:07:01.030
Right.
1283
01:07:02.030 --> 01:07:05.500
So let's catch up on the questions. Keep them coming.
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01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.329
Philip Blair. average classroom size in Cuba is eight to
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01:07:09.329 --> 01:07:12.519
10 students per one teacher. Average classroom size in California
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01:07:12.539 --> 01:07:16.219
is 24 to 27 students per one teacher. Um, Cubans
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01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:22.400
don't want our overcrowded broken schools. Um, plurry Paul, maybe
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01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:24.789
someone will have some balls in this next batch of
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01:07:25.230 --> 01:07:28.230
house reps. Don't always agree with Massey, but props to
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01:07:28.250 --> 01:07:35.599
him for finding ways. Um, with Gaddafi, uh, America first
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01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.920
is like America struggling compared to the rest of the world.
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01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.139
America first is probably why most of the world hates Americans.
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01:07:44.050 --> 01:07:47.650
I don't think that's true. I think if Americans focused
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01:07:47.670 --> 01:07:52.530
more inward, the rest of the world would like us better, actually. Pluripal,
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01:07:52.570 --> 01:07:55.429
no more Christmas would rock. Fuck those corporations who depend
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01:07:55.489 --> 01:07:56.869
upon it for their revenue.
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01:08:00.130 --> 01:08:02.570
I actually agree with that, by the way. Christmas is
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01:08:02.590 --> 01:08:03.369
too commercialized.
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01:08:04.170 --> 01:08:04.329
Yeah.
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01:08:05.250 --> 01:08:10.250
I would think you would agree with that. Cameron Bryan.
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01:08:10.309 --> 01:08:13.590
I was deceived and betrayed by Trump. Now I'm 100%
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01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:17.189
MAGA dissident and reading Marx, Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, and Mao.
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01:08:17.770 --> 01:08:21.939
Don't forget Ted Rall. Let's see. Okay, question for me
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01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:25.279
from Philip. How is it that different from Strom Thurmond
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01:08:25.300 --> 01:08:27.909
being a segregationist? while the mother of his child is
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01:08:27.949 --> 01:08:30.289
a black woman. I think it's exactly the same thing.
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01:08:31.050 --> 01:08:34.289
You know, I mean, that was the hypocrisy. It's like
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01:08:34.569 --> 01:08:37.510
if Strom Thurmond had, you know, he had a mixed
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01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:41.460
race child with a black woman, and if he had been,
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01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:47.359
you know, not a virulent racist and segregationist in his
1311
01:08:47.460 --> 01:08:51.079
public politics, as opposed to in his private life, there
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01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:54.710
would have been nothing there to report. As with Lindsey Graham,
1313
01:08:54.750 --> 01:08:57.819
it was an open secret in official Washington. Everyone knew
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01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.939
and everyone covered up for Strom Thurmond. But I think
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01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:07.159
it's exactly the same. You know, it's disgusting. Yeah, agreed.
1316
01:09:07.939 --> 01:09:10.430
Juan Don, did you see Trump at a rally a
1317
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.909
few days ago boasting about the poverty rate for different
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01:09:12.949 --> 01:09:15.789
groups of people? He said something like, the numbers are
1319
01:09:15.810 --> 01:09:19.270
the highest it's ever been. It's great. I did not
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01:09:19.350 --> 01:09:27.510
see that, but that does not sound impossible. Okay. Please, please.
1321
01:09:27.569 --> 01:09:30.670
We need your support guys. We haven't seen a single
1322
01:09:30.710 --> 01:09:34.260
dollar in this entire show. And I don't know why
1323
01:09:34.340 --> 01:09:38.199
people are just not donating, but I know the economy's bad,
1324
01:09:38.260 --> 01:09:40.619
but if you can afford to it to support the
1325
01:09:40.659 --> 01:09:42.039
show and you like the show and you want the
1326
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:45.630
show to keep going, don't be surprised if it goes
1327
01:09:45.670 --> 01:09:47.770
away one day because we don't have any money. So
1328
01:09:48.430 --> 01:09:53.300
please go ahead and consider subscribing. In fact, don't consider subscribing.
1329
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:57.359
Just subscribe. $ 5 a month supports the show. $ 10 a
1330
01:09:57.460 --> 01:09:59.380
month gets you a closing credit at the end of
1331
01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:03.020
the show. And $ 20 gets you exclusive content. In fact,
1332
01:10:03.050 --> 01:10:06.770
the exclusive content for this month, we're currently got to
1333
01:10:06.789 --> 01:10:09.510
work out with Trent. Probably got to wait for Jamal
1334
01:10:09.529 --> 01:10:13.529
to come back before we do that. But we know
1335
01:10:13.710 --> 01:10:17.140
we owe you an exclusive show for the month of October.
1336
01:10:17.850 --> 01:10:20.210
So that's going to be coming up either this week
1337
01:10:20.229 --> 01:10:26.250
or next week. All right here. And PhD Nick Rivera says,
1338
01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:30.310
Strom was a racist, but he was a good father. Yeah,
1339
01:10:30.430 --> 01:10:35.970
that's true. Apparently he reportedly was a good father. Very strange.
1340
01:10:37.350 --> 01:10:38.850
You know, it makes me wonder if he was even
1341
01:10:38.930 --> 01:10:43.060
really truly a racist in his real personal life. It
1342
01:10:43.229 --> 01:10:46.500
was just a posture that he did for work. Well,
1343
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:49.380
I mean... Does it matter?
1344
01:10:50.659 --> 01:10:55.840
What does the term even mean? I mean, it's the word,
1345
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:59.510
it's kind of like anti-Semite and racist. Those two words
1346
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.909
have been used so much that they've lost all meaning.
1347
01:11:04.130 --> 01:11:09.310
It's kind of like whacking a pinata. It's just, it's overused.
1348
01:11:10.170 --> 01:11:12.270
What the word racist means now probably didn't mean the
1349
01:11:12.310 --> 01:11:14.630
same thing it made when you were a kid, Ted.
1350
01:11:14.689 --> 01:11:18.100
I mean, who the hell knows? Speaking of Ted, I've
1351
01:11:18.140 --> 01:11:23.550
got some breaking news for y'all. In the Montana congressional race,
1352
01:11:24.090 --> 01:11:27.130
there is a single vote that is being mailed out today.
1353
01:11:27.329 --> 01:11:32.649
Ted Rall is now officially a candidate for District 1
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01:11:32.649 --> 01:11:34.789
in Montana.
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01:11:35.350 --> 01:11:39.119
Would I legally... In the extremely unlikely chance that I
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01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.399
am to prevail and become a duly elected representative for
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01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.939
the first district of the state of Montana... Would I
1358
01:11:46.979 --> 01:11:52.119
be disqualified because of lack of residency? Probably, right? Who knows?
1359
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:58.510
I believe so. But that's okay, because it seems unlikely. Although,
1360
01:11:58.789 --> 01:12:00.310
you know, hey, if the fix is in....
1361
01:12:01.930 --> 01:12:05.350
Well, I mean, the odds are that you'll only get
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01:12:05.590 --> 01:12:06.069
one vote.
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01:12:07.149 --> 01:12:09.590
I would think so. What about Kizzy?
1364
01:12:10.750 --> 01:12:11.890
I can get Kizzy to vote for you.
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01:12:12.630 --> 01:12:14.369
Okay, there you go. It's like.
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01:12:15.850 --> 01:12:18.710
My vote's just increased by 100%. Yeah, it did.
1367
01:12:18.930 --> 01:12:22.329
Unfortunately, Thomas doesn't turn 18 until next year, so he
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01:12:22.369 --> 01:12:25.189
can't legally vote. I mean, he grudges a Democrat than vote,
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01:12:25.229 --> 01:12:25.550
I guess.
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01:12:26.430 --> 01:12:32.079
There you go. Is he still angry at me? Well,
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01:12:32.100 --> 01:12:34.640
I don't know if he was angry at me for
1372
01:12:34.739 --> 01:12:36.060
telling him not to join the Marines.
1373
01:12:37.260 --> 01:12:39.699
He's angry at both of us about that, but he'll
1374
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:43.850
get over it. It's from love, though. That's what I
1375
01:12:43.869 --> 01:12:45.729
told him. I said, the only reason that we even
1376
01:12:45.750 --> 01:12:47.310
brought that up is because we both love him and
1377
01:12:47.340 --> 01:12:47.880
we care about him.
1378
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:51.180
Yeah, that's exactly it. It's like we're not trying to
1379
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:55.659
humiliate him or anything. All right. So, all right. So
1380
01:12:55.699 --> 01:12:59.159
let's talk about the elections and we'll talk about whatever
1381
01:12:59.260 --> 01:13:01.960
else everybody else wants to talk about. So if you
1382
01:13:01.979 --> 01:13:04.289
have questions, oh, I guess you want to throw in,
1383
01:13:04.300 --> 01:13:06.359
I mean, nobody takes us up on this. So fuck
1384
01:13:06.380 --> 01:13:09.229
the phone calls. Nobody ever, nobody ever calls. If people
1385
01:13:09.270 --> 01:13:10.829
want to call, they can put in the chat that
1386
01:13:10.869 --> 01:13:13.840
they want to call. Then we will, 100%.
1387
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:17.180
If somebody wants to call in, I'll turn it on.
1388
01:13:17.220 --> 01:13:18.560
I'm just going to turn it on. You said sit
1389
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:19.579
there for no reason at all.
1390
01:13:20.340 --> 01:13:21.079
Yeah, there's no point.
1391
01:13:21.899 --> 01:13:26.359
Be courageous. If you want to come on and talk
1392
01:13:26.500 --> 01:13:29.760
to Ted live, I'll click the button.
1393
01:13:30.979 --> 01:13:32.619
What's this new thing? Do you see this on the
1394
01:13:32.699 --> 01:13:36.399
upper right-hand corner of the crumble screen? Run ad now?
1395
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:37.949
Yeah.
1396
01:13:38.390 --> 01:13:38.930
What is that?
1397
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.420
Do you remember when we were doing the ad reads?
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Yeah, it was still good.
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You can actually just plug them in where they will
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run automatically without you having to go in and read
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it yourself. That just went live yesterday.
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Let's see what happens if you do this. It's sort
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of the top of the hour. Let's see. At launch,
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mid-roll ads run for 30 seconds. Okay. But I don't
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see any ads underneath it.
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Yep. You have to build it.
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01:14:12.890 --> 01:14:14.069
Like you have to actually build the ad.
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Oh, really? Okay. And there's an ad for Keet. What are,
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what is that?
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No idea.
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Huh? Keet is, what is it? Oh, it's a encryption technology.
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Huh?
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Okay.
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Yeah. They're not paying enough. Keet's not paying enough for to,
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to read their ad. So, you know, sorry guys. Okay.
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And there's Patriot Firearms. They don't pay enough either. Okay.
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01:14:44.829 --> 01:14:48.689
So let's go back. All right. Let's talk about the
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Brazilian elections. So Lula, who's the leftist, he's 80 years old.
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He just was reelected to a fourth term. He won 51.8%
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of the vote. He was expected by many to lose.
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This was considered a surprise. This is the first time
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that anyone's overcome a loss in the first round. This
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is a two-round system like France has. And it's the
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first time since 1989 that a presidential candidate came in
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second in the first round and then prevailed in the
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second round. His opponent, Flavio Bolsonaro... of course, son of
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the right-wing Bolsonaro, is disputing the results. He says he's
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calling bullshit because the government, the Lula government, extended the
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voting hours by two additional hours, supposedly due to terrible traffic, which, look,
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in Rio de Janeiro, they are famous for having... I've
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never been, but the traffic is supposed to be absolutely horrendous. But,
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you know, this is also... His father used to constantly...
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disagree and refuse to accept that he had lost. So
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this is kind of like the same old, same old.
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Well, you're missing something here. So Sula appointed his personal attorney. Whatever.
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He appointed his personal attorney to handle this on the
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Supreme Court. I mean, that on its face is a
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conflict of interest.
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What do you mean handle it?
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Well, okay, so he appointed his personal attorney to the
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Brazilian Supreme Court. He then requested, he being Lula, requested
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that his friend extend voting hours for two hours to
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his personal attorney, who now has a vested interest in
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his client winning the presidency. I mean, that is a
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conflict of interest of the highest order.
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01:16:56.460 --> 01:16:58.779
That sounds totally not corrupt at all.
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Of course not. But that's the case, though, because is
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the case that Lula is going to make is that
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only his voters were impacted by the bad traffic at
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Sao Paulo and Rio? Of course not. They were stuffing ballots.
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Everyone knows that traffic only affects members of one party
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at any given time.
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Of course.
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That's why every now and then you'll hear like, oh,
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my God, the Chicago. In Chicago, you know, on the
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Ryan Expressway, there was a serious Democrat backup. Sometimes you'll
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hear like, you know, outside JFK Airport, Republicans were backed up.
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You know, that's a thing.
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01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:45.050
Yeah, of course, but it only ever affects your voters. So,
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of course, what you're going to do, I mean, Ted,
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you've got to admit that this even makes Chicago politics
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look honest.
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Well, the idea that Brazil- I mean, it is bad.
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The idea that Brazil would have corruption does not surprise me.
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Let me tell you a personal story, as I do
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so often. So back in the 80s, as you know,
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I worked for a Japanese bank. One of our big
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customers was called Albras. That's the state aluminum company of Brazil.
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I don't know if it still exists. But basically, they
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controlled the entire aluminum mining and industry of Brazil, much
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of which was in the Amazon basin. Anyway... They were
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one of a few clients that we had where previous
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loan officers had sent them hundreds of millions of dollars
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and never gotten a signed loan agreement. And every now
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and then, the Albras executives would fly into New York
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and basically go visit prostitutes and go drinking. on the
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taxpayer's dollar, or in this case, their taxpayer's cruzeros. And
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01:18:56.579 --> 01:19:00.619
they'd be partying like madmen. And they were supposedly there
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to negotiate the loan agreement after the money that they'd
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already received. It's very fucked up. And they were never around.
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And my boss was always like, call up this bordello
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01:19:12.250 --> 01:19:14.949
that Henry Kissinger goes to and see if they have
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any space for our friends and be good hosts. And
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I'd be like, fuck these guys. They're corrupt assholes who
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are leeching money out of the Brazilian economy. This was
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during the time, during the same exact time that countries,
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including Brazil, were demanding debt forgiveness because of developing world
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debt forgiveness. Like, oh, we can't afford to pay back
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01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:41.170
our debts. It's like, meanwhile, they're completely corrupt Anyway, these guys,
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I remember one time I get called into a conference
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room by my boss where the Albras guys are there.
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They flew on diplomatic passports so they don't get searched
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01:19:49.869 --> 01:19:53.970
at the airport. They show up and they're using X-Acto
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01:19:53.989 --> 01:19:57.060
blades to rip open the linings of their suit jacket,
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01:19:57.100 --> 01:20:00.760
their cheap suit jackets, which are packed with cash. And
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01:20:00.819 --> 01:20:03.779
he's like, you know, oh, can you tell these guys
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01:20:03.819 --> 01:20:05.779
where to exchange? I'm not going to get into too
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01:20:05.819 --> 01:20:09.600
much detail beyond this. Suffice to say, you know, can
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you tell them where they can turn these cruzeros into
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US dollars in a way that no government may know
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01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:20.590
that it happened? And, you know, it was like, this
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01:20:20.630 --> 01:20:26.050
was a routine matter. I mean, they were crazy. And
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01:20:26.069 --> 01:20:28.430
I remember during the whole debt, third world debt thing,
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01:20:28.939 --> 01:20:32.500
they were threatening to default on one of our big loans.
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01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:37.529
And I was like, No, we will fucking go in there.
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01:20:37.930 --> 01:20:42.130
We will take over a public park in Rio. We
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01:20:42.149 --> 01:20:46.689
will not tolerate it. It's like zero tolerance for default.
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01:20:47.329 --> 01:20:49.289
They were just like, but we're third world. It's like,
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01:20:49.609 --> 01:20:54.800
you're corrupt. You're not poor. You're corrupt. Brazil is a
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01:20:54.909 --> 01:20:58.939
rich country. It's a very rich country with lots of
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01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.880
natural resources and a vibrant economy. It's like, you're just corrupt.
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01:21:03.729 --> 01:21:04.270
No, of course.
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01:21:04.649 --> 01:21:06.470
And I guess that's the point that I'm making. I mean,
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if you pretend that you are a democracy, let's just.
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01:21:12.630 --> 01:21:13.789
And you lived in Brazil, right?
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01:21:14.350 --> 01:21:16.029
I did. So let's just pretend.
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01:21:16.050 --> 01:21:17.829
Did you witness any corruption while you were there?
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01:21:18.550 --> 01:21:22.050
Oh, all the time. People bribing cops and things. I
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01:21:22.130 --> 01:21:24.149
once saw a military policeman shoot some dude right there
1520
01:21:24.170 --> 01:21:25.869
on the beach. It just blew his brains out right
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01:21:25.890 --> 01:21:31.229
there on the beach. It was outstanding. It was just wild.
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01:21:31.250 --> 01:21:36.550
Just wild. How it was. But the cost of living
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01:21:37.510 --> 01:21:43.869
was outstanding. I loved it. Alas, I am here.
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01:21:43.890 --> 01:21:53.350
Well, you know, it is what it is. Okay, so let's... Okay, Kilroy,
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01:21:53.390 --> 01:21:56.460
thanks very much for the $ 5 donation. We need more
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01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:01.340
of you guys. More Kilroys, please. Be like Kilroy. Right-wing pundits,
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01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:05.270
he says, are using... France's riots as a scare tactic
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01:22:05.310 --> 01:22:08.560
to vote right. That's true. Also saw a post saying
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01:22:08.659 --> 01:22:12.029
France didn't honor Israel and is now paying for it.
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01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:16.220
First of all, I would say France honored Israel a
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01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:18.920
lot more than it ought to have. It's certainly been
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01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:20.699
in bed with the Israelis for a long time.
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01:22:22.060 --> 01:22:25.520
Well, we know that the Israelis were behind the African
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01:22:25.590 --> 01:22:29.550
storming of their Spanish enclaves and that the Israelis considered
1535
01:22:29.590 --> 01:22:33.939
it a punishment to Spain when they were When the
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01:22:33.979 --> 01:22:38.079
Moroccan government just opened up the gates and said, here
1537
01:22:38.100 --> 01:22:43.560
you go. Here's your ticket to Spain. Dear Spain, to
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01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.449
you from Israel with love. It would not surprise me.
1539
01:22:49.010 --> 01:22:52.630
And Kilroy's follow up with a $ 2 donation. Could riots
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01:22:52.670 --> 01:22:55.050
in France be stirred up by Israel? I don't think
1541
01:22:55.090 --> 01:22:58.239
that's what's happening. I think that the French don't need
1542
01:22:58.300 --> 01:23:02.119
any help rioting or protesting. They're good at it themselves.
1543
01:23:02.729 --> 01:23:06.569
And this is definitely, I think, organic and authentic in
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01:23:06.689 --> 01:23:10.729
every way. I don't have dark suspicions in that respect.
1545
01:23:11.210 --> 01:23:15.050
Although certainly we know there are agent provocateurs who are
1546
01:23:15.149 --> 01:23:20.010
trying to make the protesters look worse by turning peaceful
1547
01:23:20.050 --> 01:23:24.710
protests into riots and so on. But I guess the
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01:23:24.750 --> 01:23:26.979
question here is, yeah, I mean, I love the whole
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01:23:27.020 --> 01:23:31.520
like the idea that I'm not really sure exactly. Maybe
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01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.579
you can help me as the resident conservative here, Robbie,
1551
01:23:34.659 --> 01:23:38.199
to tell me how exactly what's the logic of if
1552
01:23:38.260 --> 01:23:42.039
you vote Democratic. you know, the United States will end
1553
01:23:42.100 --> 01:23:45.260
up looking like France. I mean, Democrats have been in
1554
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:49.779
power pretty recently. Democrats were in power two years ago
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01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:54.409
in the United States, and we didn't have riots. Democrats
1556
01:23:54.449 --> 01:23:57.890
have been in power many times, and we didn't have riots.
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01:23:58.310 --> 01:24:01.329
I mean, how does that even make any sense?
1558
01:24:01.789 --> 01:24:02.149
It doesn't.
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01:24:02.189 --> 01:24:04.069
That's one of the reasons why Republicans are going to
1560
01:24:04.100 --> 01:24:06.590
get destroyed next month, and I'm looking forward to it.
1561
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:13.470
I mean, let's be honest. It was... The hero, the
1562
01:24:13.510 --> 01:24:17.810
messiah of the Republican Party, Ronald Reagan, who granted the
1563
01:24:17.909 --> 01:24:21.840
first mass amnesty with the promise that the borders would
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01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:24.560
be closed, they were never closed, and it's been under
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01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:29.220
both Republican and Democrat administrations that the invasion of the
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01:24:29.260 --> 01:24:35.229
United States has continued unabated my entire lifetime. No one's
1567
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.350
buying it anymore. No one's buying the lie. And now
1568
01:24:38.390 --> 01:24:41.550
what's happening is that because they've done too much of it,
1569
01:24:42.390 --> 01:24:46.609
so between immigration and between inflation, the cost of living
1570
01:24:46.899 --> 01:24:50.399
is outpaced wages, and now people just all across the
1571
01:24:50.420 --> 01:24:53.739
political divide are able to look around and say, this
1572
01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:56.779
is not what we voted for. This is wrong.
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01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:01.420
Yeah.
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01:25:01.619 --> 01:25:05.340
It's like Vivek, okay? So you have this dude who
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01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:13.680
runs this horrible ad Using his opponent's estranged mother, who
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01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:17.109
allowed her daughter to get raped. I thought it was
1577
01:25:17.130 --> 01:25:19.510
her name, Amy Action. I could be saying her first
1578
01:25:19.529 --> 01:25:22.810
name wrong. I know her last name is Action. And
1579
01:25:22.829 --> 01:25:24.909
then he runs this ad, and then you have the
1580
01:25:24.949 --> 01:25:29.460
likes of Laura Loomer, or Larry Loomer, depending on if
1581
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:31.800
you believe she's actually a woman or not. She could
1582
01:25:31.819 --> 01:25:35.449
be rolling by crawling style. I don't know. who goes
1583
01:25:35.510 --> 01:25:38.310
out and tells Republicans, if you don't vote for Vivek,
1584
01:25:39.029 --> 01:25:41.050
then you're a racist. The reason why you're not voting
1585
01:25:41.069 --> 01:25:43.189
for him is not because he sucks. It's because he's
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01:25:43.229 --> 01:25:46.930
a brown Indian Hindu. In which case, I look and say,
1587
01:25:46.989 --> 01:25:49.630
all of the above is true. He deserves to lose.
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01:25:53.869 --> 01:26:00.439
We are getting a request here from... God, let me... Sorry,
1589
01:26:00.489 --> 01:26:02.000
I'm like... No, you're fine.
1590
01:26:02.020 --> 01:26:02.100
Yeah.
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01:26:02.949 --> 01:26:04.050
Sorry. Please.
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01:26:04.069 --> 01:26:04.390
Okay.
1593
01:26:04.409 --> 01:26:11.600
This is from James. James Dewan. Please do a Patreon
1594
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:15.460
subscriber drive. We want you to survive and asking subscribers
1595
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:18.659
to pay monthly empowers us to actually move the needle
1596
01:26:18.779 --> 01:26:23.069
to ensure something we care about survives. So we do
1597
01:26:23.130 --> 01:26:26.270
have a Patreon page. I'm going to pull that up
1598
01:26:28.170 --> 01:26:31.960
and put that up there. But also, can you, Robbie,
1599
01:26:31.979 --> 01:26:34.800
can you sort of break through how people, the different
1600
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.619
ways that people can subscribe to the show?
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01:26:39.020 --> 01:26:42.000
Sure. Yeah, I mean, there's several different ways. One way,
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01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:45.840
if you're watching on Rumble, which we are still, at
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01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:47.539
least as of now, still a member of the creator
1604
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.779
program over there, you can subscribe to Rumble during.
1605
01:26:50.659 --> 01:26:55.020
The live stream. How are we doing on the chats? Chats? Yeah.
1606
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.439
It's going to be tight, but most of what happens,
1607
01:26:59.510 --> 01:27:01.909
I'll be putting together the premium episode and getting more
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01:27:01.970 --> 01:27:03.010
shorts and stuff up today.
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01:27:03.170 --> 01:27:05.770
We need unique chats, guys. So if you don't normally
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01:27:05.810 --> 01:27:09.609
chat and you're watching on Rumble, please just say hi.
1611
01:27:09.750 --> 01:27:11.529
You don't have to do anything else. But right now,
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we need anybody who has not chatted in recent days, months,
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01:27:15.939 --> 01:27:18.659
years to just come in and say hi.
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01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:22.439
Yeah, because basically, even though Rumble has nuked our pay
1615
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:25.609
by 98%, Some pay is still better than none. So
1616
01:27:25.649 --> 01:27:29.579
that helps. Just a poop emoji is perfectly fine. Uh,
1617
01:27:29.729 --> 01:27:33.199
on rumble, you become a paid channel subscriber for $ 5
1618
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:37.399
a month during a live stream on YouTube. You can
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01:27:37.420 --> 01:27:41.819
become a, a channel member. Uh, they started, it starts
1620
01:27:41.859 --> 01:27:44.229
what $ 5 here on here on YouTube. And then there's
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01:27:44.250 --> 01:27:45.710
different tiers that you're able to, that you're able to
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01:27:45.729 --> 01:27:51.279
subscribe to. Um, And then also the Patreon that Ted
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01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:53.220
put up. You can go in and become a monthly
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01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:54.079
subscriber that way.
1625
01:27:55.020 --> 01:28:01.939
And listen. If you're listening instead of watching, it's patreon.com
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slash CW. I don't know why. Slash deprogram podcast. That's patreon.com
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slash C as in Charlie, W as in world, slash
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01:28:14.350 --> 01:28:15.590
deprogram podcast.
1629
01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:20.090
Yep. And one thing, I mean, you know, after YouTube
1630
01:28:20.109 --> 01:28:22.880
blew up the creator program, I want y'all to understand
1631
01:28:23.060 --> 01:28:27.600
that I'm putting my money where my mouth is literally.
1632
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:33.510
I'm doing this for free now because the finances are
1633
01:28:33.750 --> 01:28:39.289
to a point that they can't pay me. So if
1634
01:28:39.329 --> 01:28:42.109
y'all want the show to continue, I mean, those are
1635
01:28:42.130 --> 01:28:44.069
the three ways that you're able to support. Support us
1636
01:28:44.130 --> 01:28:46.810
on Patreon. You're able to do it directly on Rumble
1637
01:28:46.829 --> 01:28:49.470
for five bucks a month or on YouTube. You have
1638
01:28:49.489 --> 01:28:51.479
a tiered list that you're able to go through. You
1639
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:53.140
get different perks on YouTube based on the tier that
1640
01:28:53.180 --> 01:29:00.300
you do. And if you want to support the work
1641
01:29:00.340 --> 01:29:03.979
that I'm doing, hop over to West Glacier Gaming over
1642
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.619
there on YouTube and become a channel subscriber. That helps
1643
01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:08.439
me out. That way I'm able to pay my bills too. So,
1644
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:16.560
I mean, that's the reality. The economics are such that
1645
01:29:16.819 --> 01:29:19.250
the rulers that be are doing their absolute best to
1646
01:29:19.289 --> 01:29:20.810
starve out small independent voices.
1647
01:29:21.850 --> 01:29:22.029
True.
1648
01:29:22.329 --> 01:29:25.229
That's what they're doing. That is that's the play. And
1649
01:29:25.350 --> 01:29:26.289
so for the.
1650
01:29:26.229 --> 01:29:29.789
Price, podcasting is still sort of wild and crazy. And
1651
01:29:30.449 --> 01:29:32.890
I was just listening to Freakonomics yesterday over the weekend.
1652
01:29:34.050 --> 01:29:37.609
And they're talking about how podcasting is is move gravitating.
1653
01:29:37.970 --> 01:29:39.329
The next step is going to be that it's going
1654
01:29:39.350 --> 01:29:42.829
to be corporatized and they're going to turn it all into,
1655
01:29:43.750 --> 01:29:46.180
you know, sort of perfect to try to professionalize it
1656
01:29:46.189 --> 01:29:49.390
like television. that's what they want to do. So the
1657
01:29:49.470 --> 01:29:52.869
only way individual shows like this can survive is if
1658
01:29:52.909 --> 01:29:56.810
they have a pretty steady viewership with a lot of
1659
01:29:56.850 --> 01:29:59.909
financial support. So they don't, so we can resist that
1660
01:30:00.010 --> 01:30:03.770
kind of, you know, impulse to, I mean, assuming that
1661
01:30:03.810 --> 01:30:06.699
we were asked to sell out that we would even
1662
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.779
be in a position, you know, the, the irony here
1663
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:13.100
is nobody, we all value our independence. We're too wild
1664
01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:16.140
and crazy. I mean, I've been independent my entire life.
1665
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:20.079
I've never been on staff anywhere. Um, Robbie, same for you.
1666
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.890
And so this is definitely, you know, it's, it's a
1667
01:30:23.890 --> 01:30:26.090
better approach. I wouldn't want to do it any other way.
1668
01:30:27.590 --> 01:30:30.250
Yeah. And, uh, one thing, I mean, uh, one, no
1669
01:30:30.470 --> 01:30:33.430
Jeff Dornick, the guy who's just on, we are partnering
1670
01:30:33.510 --> 01:30:35.529
up with him on the, on the freedom first network.
1671
01:30:35.569 --> 01:30:37.430
We're doing a lot of things. Ted is going to
1672
01:30:37.449 --> 01:30:40.649
start writing for him. No professional Manila Chan is going
1673
01:30:40.689 --> 01:30:45.010
to be an editor. He's putting together a, uh, a, uh,
1674
01:30:45.170 --> 01:30:48.029
an actual newsroom over there on pickaxe. So, I mean, there's,
1675
01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:50.699
there are things that are happening. It's just, it's harder
1676
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.960
and harder to be independent now without getting in bed
1677
01:30:53.979 --> 01:30:56.319
with corporate oligarchs. And then once you do that, you
1678
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:59.939
lose your voice. They control you. And that's why we're
1679
01:30:59.960 --> 01:31:03.729
resisting it. That's why we're relying on, on crowdfunding. And, uh,
1680
01:31:03.789 --> 01:31:06.329
Philip asked me, how do I pay my bills? Uh,
1681
01:31:07.350 --> 01:31:11.029
I've worked for a few different shows, uh, producing. So those,
1682
01:31:11.210 --> 01:31:13.489
so they pay me, but I'm listening. I'm not gonna
1683
01:31:13.510 --> 01:31:16.960
lie to you. Uh, no, uh, losing the game with
1684
01:31:16.979 --> 01:31:21.560
John Kariaku, that hurt. Losing the paycheck from this show hurts. Uh,
1685
01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:26.020
YouTube blowing up the creator program that hurt too. So
1686
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:28.279
the way that I'm able to pay my bills, quite frankly,
1687
01:31:29.060 --> 01:31:31.960
is because people like y'all are going over there, are
1688
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:36.600
going to West Glacier Gaming on YouTube and becoming channel members. That's,
1689
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:39.920
that's how it's working. Honest to God. I mean, there's,
1690
01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:43.989
there's nothing fancy about it. And, um, If it comes
1691
01:31:44.029 --> 01:31:46.270
to a point where I cannot pay my bills, I
1692
01:31:46.289 --> 01:31:49.529
will have to tell Ted and JT, I'm sorry, I
1693
01:31:49.550 --> 01:31:51.189
can't do this anymore. I have to get myself a
1694
01:31:51.210 --> 01:31:54.029
real job. And after that, who the hell knows?
1695
01:31:55.819 --> 01:31:58.420
I found, by the way, that ad that we were
1696
01:31:58.460 --> 01:31:59.699
talking about. Oh, good.
1697
01:31:59.739 --> 01:32:00.340
I'll throw it up.
1698
01:32:00.979 --> 01:32:03.399
Go ahead and please put it up. And by the way,
1699
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.100
it's hilarious. So. This is the comment that this is
1700
01:32:06.140 --> 01:32:10.460
from some Zionist. Unless Abdul El-Sayed immediately demands that this
1701
01:32:10.500 --> 01:32:14.260
campaign ad be taken down and unequivocally condemns it and
1702
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:17.420
its creators, he will be exposed as a vile, dangerous,
1703
01:32:17.500 --> 01:32:21.619
and divisive anti-Semite. Any of my fellow Democrats who condemn
1704
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.079
the disgusting Ramaswamy ad in Ohio but do not condemn
1705
01:32:25.100 --> 01:32:28.500
this deserve our unflinching condemn. We're seeing a lot of
1706
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:34.199
these like, you know, Zyobot kind of posts here. And
1707
01:32:34.220 --> 01:32:37.550
away we go. All right, let's go ahead and play it.
1708
01:32:38.270 --> 01:32:38.689
All right.
1709
01:32:38.699 --> 01:32:40.710
We've got this puppy right on up here.
1710
01:32:42.350 --> 01:32:46.130
By the way, just watch it. Just think, is it anti-Semitic?
1711
01:32:47.029 --> 01:32:47.750
Think about that.
1712
01:32:49.130 --> 01:32:53.789
How about this? Screw Israel. I'll be anti-Semitic for you. Yeah.
1713
01:32:54.010 --> 01:32:54.670
I know.
1714
01:32:55.130 --> 01:32:56.050
What about the bananas?
1715
01:32:56.529 --> 01:32:59.289
Yeah, I got them too. But honey.
1716
01:33:00.149 --> 01:33:00.310
What?
1717
01:33:00.949 --> 01:33:02.600
You're going to have to put those eggs back.
1718
01:33:02.979 --> 01:33:03.880
They don't like eggs anymore?
1719
01:33:04.390 --> 01:33:07.090
No, they like eggs. But we have to set that
1720
01:33:07.090 --> 01:33:10.409
$ 7 aside. For killing Palestinians?
1721
01:33:11.409 --> 01:33:11.590
What?
1722
01:33:11.609 --> 01:33:14.369
I mean, don't we give Israel $ 4 billion a year anyways?
1723
01:33:14.470 --> 01:33:14.710
Yeah.
1724
01:33:14.989 --> 01:33:19.409
And now we're giving them another $ 26 billion. Do you
1725
01:33:19.430 --> 01:33:21.449
know how much that is per American taxpayer?
1726
01:33:22.489 --> 01:33:22.640
No.
1727
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.579
It's like $ 161 per person. Apparently it's costing us a
1728
01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:29.960
lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza. That's terrible.
1729
01:33:32.430 --> 01:33:33.729
Don't they get universal health care, too?
1730
01:33:33.750 --> 01:33:38.939
Yeah, they do. We're paying for that, too, probably. Might
1731
01:33:38.949 --> 01:33:40.300
as well put the bananas back.
1732
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:41.779
Why the f * * * do we have to
1733
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:42.600
pay for all this?
1734
01:33:44.739 --> 01:33:45.760
Don't cuss at me.
1735
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.619
Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what Israelis
1736
01:33:49.659 --> 01:33:51.880
want and so little about what you want?
1737
01:33:52.420 --> 01:33:53.979
Mike Rogers is for.
1738
01:33:55.479 --> 01:34:05.720
They-them. Abdul and Syed is for you. Pretty good ad.
1739
01:34:06.659 --> 01:34:09.670
Yeah, I liked it. And there was nothing anti-Semitic about it.
1740
01:34:10.310 --> 01:34:12.329
It's factual. It's facts.
1741
01:34:13.270 --> 01:34:16.430
Well, the only thing that's wrong is it's not $ 161
1742
01:34:16.289 --> 01:34:20.210
per person. It's a lot more than that because we
1743
01:34:20.250 --> 01:34:24.550
pay interest on anything we spend, right? Because we have
1744
01:34:24.569 --> 01:34:27.989
a massive national debt. So if the U.S. government spends $ 161,
1745
01:34:27.930 --> 01:34:35.600
it's $ 161 plus compound interest in perpetuity. So it's really
1746
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:37.300
thousands of dollars per person.
1747
01:34:38.699 --> 01:34:41.859
It's crazy because, Ted, me and you have talked about
1748
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:44.770
this before. Governments really have three ways to raise money.
1749
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.949
The most honest way is through taxation. You tax your
1750
01:34:48.970 --> 01:34:54.930
citizens because governments don't produce anything. The second way is
1751
01:34:55.210 --> 01:34:59.319
by creating debt and then monetizing that debt with bonds
1752
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.899
with the promise of paying the borrower back with interest.
1753
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:07.100
I mean, that's not ideal, but it's more honest than
1754
01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:08.920
what we've got now. The third way is through just
1755
01:35:09.890 --> 01:35:12.789
rampant inflation, which is what we've got right now, which
1756
01:35:12.850 --> 01:35:15.470
is they just create more and more currency that just
1757
01:35:15.510 --> 01:35:18.909
destroys the value of the money that's in circulation. And
1758
01:35:18.949 --> 01:35:22.189
you're literally at that point borrowing from your future, from
1759
01:35:22.229 --> 01:35:28.029
future generations. That's what we're doing. And so this money
1760
01:35:28.050 --> 01:35:33.170
that we're giving to Israel, my grandkids aren't even conceived yet,
1761
01:35:34.229 --> 01:35:37.789
are already in debt. Think about that. Think about what
1762
01:35:37.810 --> 01:35:40.930
I just said for a second. The next generation of
1763
01:35:40.989 --> 01:35:43.250
Americans that has not even been conceived, they're not a
1764
01:35:43.310 --> 01:35:47.550
gleam in their daddy's eye, are already in debt.
1765
01:35:48.310 --> 01:35:49.390
Yeah. No, it's horrible.
1766
01:35:50.350 --> 01:35:51.149
And that's what's.
1767
01:35:51.020 --> 01:35:51.439
Going on here.
1768
01:35:51.949 --> 01:35:55.329
And there's nothing anti-Semitic to point that out. Why is
1769
01:35:55.390 --> 01:36:00.350
it that Europe as a whole deserves a single penny
1770
01:36:01.770 --> 01:36:06.569
of American taxpayer defense? They are a sovereign nation, supposedly. True,
1771
01:36:06.909 --> 01:36:09.989
they should be able to take care of themselves. Listen,
1772
01:36:10.050 --> 01:36:12.289
if France wants to have a pension system, then it
1773
01:36:12.310 --> 01:36:14.590
needs to decide, does it want a pension system or
1774
01:36:14.609 --> 01:36:17.149
a military? Because you can't have both. Right now, the
1775
01:36:17.170 --> 01:36:20.510
reason why it has both is because the American taxpayer
1776
01:36:20.569 --> 01:36:23.899
is subsidizing the defense of Europe collectively. The French don't
1777
01:36:23.909 --> 01:36:26.340
have to worry about the Germans getting uppity and backhanding
1778
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:31.220
them like they want to do every 30 years. I mean,
1779
01:36:31.699 --> 01:36:34.100
that is the reality. It's unpopular, but that's true. And
1780
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:37.300
there's nothing racist or anti-Semitic about pointing that fact out.
1781
01:36:39.300 --> 01:36:45.819
True. True, true, true. Thanks for the... thanks for the
1782
01:36:46.100 --> 01:36:47.560
donations that are coming in.
1783
01:36:47.930 --> 01:36:48.449
Yeah.
1784
01:36:49.510 --> 01:36:53.590
Ray, thanks for the $ 10 for the cause. Much appreciated.
1785
01:36:55.569 --> 01:36:58.729
Still need more. We definitely need, I mean, to put
1786
01:36:58.750 --> 01:37:04.069
this into perspective, we really should be getting two or
1787
01:37:04.069 --> 01:37:08.020
$ 300 per show to make this work. And we're definitely
1788
01:37:08.060 --> 01:37:09.359
not there. Yeah.
1789
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.079
I mean, as, as people subscribe and stuff, I mean, listen,
1790
01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:15.500
it's going to happen. I believe. And frankly, if it doesn't,
1791
01:37:15.659 --> 01:37:17.560
then the show doesn't continue.
1792
01:37:17.939 --> 01:37:18.800
I mean, that's true.
1793
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:23.930
I mean, is the program worth the cost of a
1794
01:37:24.020 --> 01:37:24.779
meal at Taco Bell?
1795
01:37:27.449 --> 01:37:30.090
It's a lot safer. You won't get E.
1796
01:37:30.130 --> 01:37:33.750
Coli. But you get the colon cleanse at Taco Bell.
1797
01:37:35.850 --> 01:37:38.720
And look, if you donate enough, I'll give you E. coli.
1798
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:41.500
Oh, one thing. I have no idea if this is
1799
01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:43.260
going to happen or not, Ted. but we're just going
1800
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.779
to throw this out there. So we had a little
1801
01:37:46.859 --> 01:37:51.340
bonfire event last night at my church. And my pastor
1802
01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:54.020
started talking to me about whether or not, about my
1803
01:37:54.060 --> 01:37:57.270
stance that Israel is not an exceptional nation and that
1804
01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:00.130
it is somehow held different. I don't know if he's
1805
01:38:00.149 --> 01:38:02.229
going to take me up on this, but I challenged
1806
01:38:02.270 --> 01:38:08.470
him to a debate this Friday on my Bible podcast.
1807
01:38:08.510 --> 01:38:08.850
Ooh.
1808
01:38:09.170 --> 01:38:11.250
Can I play too?
1809
01:38:11.590 --> 01:38:12.470
You would be the moderator.
1810
01:38:13.329 --> 01:38:14.189
Oh, good, good, good.
1811
01:38:14.270 --> 01:38:17.260
I cannot think of a better person to be the moderator.
1812
01:38:17.380 --> 01:38:18.340
Nor can I.
1813
01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:23.180
So if he accepts, it will be yours truly versus
1814
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:23.979
the pastor.
1815
01:38:25.689 --> 01:38:29.850
I'll make sure everyone stays civilized and in line with God.
1816
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.539
All right. Never thought I'd have that. I never have
1817
01:38:33.579 --> 01:38:34.020
to say that.
1818
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:37.840
Hey, I'm still working on getting you saved.
1819
01:38:39.100 --> 01:38:39.340
All right.
1820
01:38:39.460 --> 01:38:44.479
Well, it's a heavy lift. All right. Let's talk about.
1821
01:38:44.500 --> 01:38:47.579
All right. So I think so. Okay. Big question I
1822
01:38:47.619 --> 01:38:50.810
have for you about Brazil is. The pundits are saying
1823
01:38:50.850 --> 01:38:53.590
that this kind of breaks, you know, there had been
1824
01:38:53.630 --> 01:38:57.229
like a right wing wave in Latin America. Could this
1825
01:38:57.310 --> 01:38:59.260
be the beginning of the end of that?
1826
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:04.460
Well, what is right wing government got you? And a
1827
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:08.199
big shout to Evan Cope, a couple over there on YouTube.
1828
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:10.039
Thank you for becoming a channel member. Thank you.
1829
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:13.539
Oh, that's what we need more of.
1830
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:20.880
I mean, memberships, memberships are the, are, are, Really, that's
1831
01:39:20.899 --> 01:39:24.399
what makes it all work. But seriously, to answer your question,
1832
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:29.729
what has right-wing government or left-wing government got anyone anywhere?
1833
01:39:31.449 --> 01:39:35.050
Europe is left-wing. You yourself pointed out that the French
1834
01:39:35.109 --> 01:39:39.829
government is left-wing. Why are the French people burning the
1835
01:39:39.850 --> 01:39:43.100
country down? Because the left-wing government doesn't deliver the same
1836
01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:44.479
way that the right-wing government doesn't.
1837
01:39:45.489 --> 01:39:47.869
Yeah, no, well, that's true. And that's going to be
1838
01:39:47.890 --> 01:39:50.899
an interesting thing, right? Like right now, all things being equal,
1839
01:39:51.069 --> 01:39:55.039
hard to imagine Marine Le Pen not winning next year
1840
01:39:55.060 --> 01:39:58.279
and becoming the new president of France. But it's going
1841
01:39:58.300 --> 01:40:00.939
to be interesting to see if she can deliver for
1842
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:05.039
the French people. You know, obviously she would need coattails.
1843
01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:08.300
She'd need to be able to control parliament, you know,
1844
01:40:08.539 --> 01:40:13.600
by a significant extent. But if she does... You know,
1845
01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.579
there's going to be so much pressure on her to
1846
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.770
impose austerity, and that's just going to cause more riots.
1847
01:40:21.430 --> 01:40:23.489
Well, why do you have to impose austerity if you
1848
01:40:23.510 --> 01:40:24.989
can just cut off Ukraine and Israel?
1849
01:40:25.590 --> 01:40:25.970
You could.
1850
01:40:25.989 --> 01:40:30.710
I mean, listen, what I don't understand, and you're the
1851
01:40:30.750 --> 01:40:33.880
French citizen here, so you explain it to me. Why
1852
01:40:34.060 --> 01:40:37.840
is it, and I mean this sincerely, why is it
1853
01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:41.760
that the French people Tolerate staying in the European Union
1854
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:45.600
when the European Union does nothing at all for the
1855
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.260
French people except suck out the blood of the state.
1856
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:53.220
What's the point? What benefit does France get out of it?
1857
01:40:53.859 --> 01:40:55.600
The only thing that they get out of it is
1858
01:40:56.220 --> 01:40:59.840
it's easy for a French citizen to live or work
1859
01:40:59.960 --> 01:41:04.239
anywhere in Europe. They don't have any border controls if
1860
01:41:04.260 --> 01:41:09.229
they want to drive to a neighboring country. Those are conveniences.
1861
01:41:09.689 --> 01:41:10.350
It's convenient.
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It's suicide. Okay, so let me point this out to you.
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Let's just say that you lived in France. You're a
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French citizen. Let's just assume that you were going to
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go work in Poland. Does Poland get your taxes or
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does France?
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That's a good question.
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It's the Polish government that does. Now, who is it
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that educated you? It was the French electorate that educated you.
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It was the French education system paid for by the
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French taxpayer who educated you. Then you go to some
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other country and you go work for them. You pay
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them taxes. What benefit are you at that point to
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your home country? You're a liability because you're still entitled
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to the pensions, but you're not paying into them. It
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is suicide.
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Oh, another thing is the legacy of World War II
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and World War I. A lot of Europeans, including Frenchmen,
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believe that like there's a stronger chance with the European integration, uh,
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there's less chance of another war.
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That's stupid because you can't pay for it. What you're
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going to do is that whenever nations get desperate, they
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start doing irrational things like starting wars with their neighbors.
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So I'm looking up the, um, so let's see. Um, yeah,
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basically France has very mixed views toward, uh, towards the
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European Union. 47% of Frenchmen view the EU unfavorably, and
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52% view it favorably. So it's 50-50. On the opposite
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sides of that, only one other country views the EU
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more unfavorably, and that's Greece, ironic since they've gotten so
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much money from the EU. And Sweden views it the
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most unfavorably. Sorry, most favorably. 79% in Sweden like it,
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20% are against it.
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Well, of course it does because Sweden is just, they
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are the Ukraine of Central Europe. They're sucking out the
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resources for the more productive states. Okay, what is Sweden
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famous for? No-go zones and Malmo.
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Meatballs.
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And their welfare state.
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And meatballs.
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Who defends them? It's France, it's England, it's the United States.
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That's the point that I'm making. If you're able to
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outsource your collective defense to another group of people, then
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that allows you to have that. That allows you to
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have a big safety net.
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Chasing Blue Dragon claims to have called and thinks that
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he's waiting in the queue.
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Oh, he, okay, he is here.
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Okay, put him up.
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Yeah, for some reason, Rumble did not notify us that
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he was here. So we're going to pop him on in. Howdy.
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Hello.
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Hey, Jason. It's Ted Roll and Robbie West here on
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Deep Program. You're live. Please say what you got to say.
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Say it completely and concisely and turn off your sound
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in the background so that you don't have the delay
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because there might be a little bit of an echo.
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Go ahead.
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Oh, I was just calling in to say hello and
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thank you guys for what you do. I mean, like,
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you guys are part of my daily routine and I'll
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be very sad if you guys go away, that's for sure.
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I've I've just been studying and trying to receive my
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degree in organic chemistry. It's been insane, honestly.
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Oh, wow. Yeah. Where do you go to school?
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Right now, I'm in Michigan up north around Bay City. Yeah,
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I was going to say, organic chemistry at Columbia was notorious.
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It was a class that nobody wanted to take because
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it was so brutal. If you escaped with a B minus,
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you were happy.
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Oh, I know. It's insane.
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And dealing with the instructors and everyone around, it can
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be very, very tasking, that's for sure, because you want
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to go about doing things one way or learning things
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a certain way. And since they've changed education so much,
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I mean, probably since you've been in school, there's no
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directive with your peers or anyone to talk to because
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everyone's always studying completely different things.
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Yeah. That sucks. Well, hang in there. Good luck. Thanks
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for calling in, and thank you for supporting the show.
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Thank you so much. And sorry for making you wait.
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Rumble did not notify me that you're in the queue,
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so thank you for calling in.
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No, you're good. Thank you, guys. Calls are standing by.
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Is it pinned, the link?
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It is.
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It's pinned.
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I will go and drop it on there again, too.
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Okay, so there's Mr. Charles G. is asking if I
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sell calendars. The answer is no, I used to. And no,
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I don't. However, I should say there is some news
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to say. I think it's going to be about November
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11th in about two weeks. My next book is coming out.
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It's a collection of my cartoons about imperialism, colonialism and
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foreign policy. I just went through them. I'm like, it's funny.
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It's good. And you can see going back basically to
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when I started drawing cartoons for syndication 30 plus years ago,
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sort of how so many things haven't really changed and
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the absurdity. And I promise the cartoons are funny, even
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though they deal with some pretty bleak topics. So I'll
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be getting into that. The book is called No More Mr.
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Nice Guy, but I'll give you, you can't buy it yet.
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I'll give, I'll give details about that when I have them.
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I will need to get that book from you.
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Oh, yeah, no, that's a given, of course. And so, yeah,
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if you want to call in, go ahead and we
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will take your call, just like we just did just now.
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Philip Blair says, Sweden is famous for nudity, too. That's true.
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Phileas Fab says, apparently Brazil's vote was extended because of
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public transport failures, which likely would affect Lula more, and
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bad weather. for which Bolsonaro requested extensions. I mean, I
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guess it's true. Mass transit would be, uh, would affect, uh,
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left-wing voters more than right-wing voters in Latin America. Yeah. I,
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I mean, I, I don't know.
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I just know that it's been a very long time
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since I was there. And so obviously the country has changed, but, um,
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I enjoyed it. It was wild. Some of the best
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food I ever had was there. I got to teach
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Brazilians about the Confederacy. When I punched this dude out,
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we called him a Yankee. But you're a Yankee. I said, no,
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I promise you I am not. So that was fun.
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It was an experience. And that's really one of the,
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I think that's one of the biggest weaknesses that Americans
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have is that we just, we do not travel enough.
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Right.
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Right.
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No, I agree with that. I don't think it should
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be mandatory, but it's good to get out there for sure,
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just to see how. other people do things better and differently.
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All right. So let's talk about Serbia a little bit, right?
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Aleksandar Vucic, who's been a centerpiece of Serbian politics since
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the 1980s. Some people call him a strong man. Some
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people call him pro-Russian. He was very unpopular in Serbia.
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And there were people who even flew back from other
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countries specifically in order to vote against him because they
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hated him so much. Or they drove long distances to
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their consulate to vote at weird times because the consular
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elections for Serbia were held at Serbia's consulate at the
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same time without adjusting to as the polls were open
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in Serbia. So they were open like in New York
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City at two o'clock in the morning. And there was
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a line outside the consulate of Serbians waiting to vote,
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I guess, for the most part against Vucic. This was
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kind of seen. But on the other hand, the guy
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who won is not really anti-Russian either because Serbia has
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long historic ties to Russia. So I don't see that
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changing anytime soon.
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If anything i mean a lot of serbs feel betrayed
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because the russians were too weak to help them back
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during the serbian war when the u.s is just bombing
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the hell out of them but i think also a
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majority of the population understands that what you said is
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true is that russia was too weak to help protect
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them and they understand that and that's no longer the
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case uh But I mean, really, it just all comes
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down to what are your values? Do you want to
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surrender your country's independence? Do you want to surrender your
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country's sovereignty to Brussels? Or do you think that your
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country should represent the values of the people who are there,
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your legacy population? And I don't see that going away.
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It's kind of like how you asked earlier about the
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difference between a right-wing and a left-wing government in Europe.
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I think that's the wrong question. I think the question is...
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This is a populist backlash. This transcends normal politics. This
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comes into what does it actually mean to be Serb
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or Croat or French or German or a Dane? What
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does that even mean? It doesn't mean anything at all anymore.
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And if it means something, then the state exists to
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serve you and your interests. And I think that's really
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what this is going into. I think that the European
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experiment is dying and it cannot die fast enough. And
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it's time for the independent nations of Europe to become
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independent again and start focusing on their own problems, their
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own people, their issues. And I also include East Asia
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in that. The Japanese need to start taking care of
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Japan again and rediscover what it means to be Japanese
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or Korean.
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But ironically, Japan now has a new right-wing prime minister
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and her attitude is completely the opposite. Her attitude is expansionistic, militaristic,
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projecting force out into the Pacific. Hey, what could go
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wrong with Japan projecting force out into the Pacific? And
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getting involved in needling China over Taiwan and so on,
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and sending international peacekeepers to various imperialist projects around the world.
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Japan's doing the very opposite of what you're counseling.
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I don't think so, because here's the thing. Nationalism is
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a big check out on low birth rates. The Japanese,
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over the last few decades, have not been making babies.
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So then what do you do to make that happen?
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You tap into your history, you tap into your culture,
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you tap into the thing that made Japan what it is.
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They've had this problem, though, for a hundred years.
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Well, that was at the end of World War II,
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and I think that what needs to happen, and this
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is the same thing I would tell the French and
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everybody else, you need to decide... I.
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Mean, I don't know how you can have a big
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family in a place where real estate is fundamentally unaffordable.
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People are living on top of each other in tiny,
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famously tiny homes and apartments. I mean, if people are
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living in totally close quarters, the last thing they want
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to do is introduce five more babies to the equation.
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That is 100% not true. Because what you're able to
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do is that you're able to go in, you can
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change the system. And if you need more land, One
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thing that humanity is famous for is looking around and saying,
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who has real estate that they're not using that I
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can take?
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You sound like a Zionist.
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Well, that's the human condition. Now, am I advocating that? No,
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because Japan would lose. They would get curb stomped. That
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being said, though, there are things that they're able to do.
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The Japanese are the The fundamental problem with Japan and
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South Korea is that they are slaves to a system
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that exploits them for money that they can't take with
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them when they die. That's the problem. That's the issue.
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So what do you do? You change the system.
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Well, changing the... I mean, changing... The Japanese are not
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good at changing their systems. I mean, they have not had.
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Well.
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I mean, they've never really had a revolution, right?
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Of course they did. Hold on. Chet, you're still in history. Okay,
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so the Tokugawa shogunate ruled Japan for 300 years. The
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Meiji Restoration was a revolution in every way, shape, and form.
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You don't think that's more of like a foreign imperialist project?
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Oh, hell no.
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That was to prevent a foreign imperialist project. They saw
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the Europeans carving up the Chinese melon and made Jesus like, okay, uh,
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the samurai have, uh, they are living in the 1300s.
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They've made Japan into a whore. What am I going
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to do? I am going to, I'm going to completely
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rebuild society from the top down. To say that Japan
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has never had a revolution is, uh, That's insane.
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It hasn't had a revolution in a Marxist sense. And
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that was also, what, 100? That was almost 200 years ago.
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Well, Marxism doesn't work.
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I'm talking about revolutions. Okay, so Robbie, two questions. And
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we're getting toward the end of our two hours, so
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we definitely have to hit these. Kilroy for president. One,
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I'm considering going back to church. Any recommendations on handling
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Zionism in many Baptist churches? Also, any ideas for ministering
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to my partner? She's a non-practicing Catholic.
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The first question is going to be easier of the
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two to answer. Zionism is just going to be baked
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into any kind, especially of a Baptist church. The best
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advice I can give you is look for an independent church.
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That's not a part of any kind of a any
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kind of a larger denomination, like avoid the Southern Baptists.
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Find yourself a small, local, independent church. Most likely they're
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going to be Zionist, especially if they're raised in dispensationalism
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and Schofieldism. That's just going to be part of it.
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It's just baked in, except for what it is. But
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so long as they are faithful to the principles of
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the faith, how you get saved, that's what matters. As
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far as your partner goes, sit down with her, read
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the Bible with her. Say, hey, I want to do these.
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I'd like to do a Bible study. I would recommend
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that you start in the book of John, the Gospel
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of John, and then move into Romans because those are
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easy books to read. Also, they make what salvation is
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incredibly plain. It's putting your faith in Christ and it
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is No, Paul answers the question, what must I do
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to be saved? Believe the Lord Jesus Christ is God.
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Ask him to forgive your sins. That's it. You don't
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need a pope. You don't need a dude in a dress.
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You don't have to go and pay 20 Hail Marys.
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Jesus paid the price. And John and Romans put together,
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make that hand and glove, and it's very easy to read.
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A moron like me can understand it. So your partner
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will have no problems at all. Okay.
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All right, so I guess we're wrapping it up. Let's
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take a look and see one last round. Take a
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look and see what other questions have come in. Anything
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else we should hit before we get out of here?
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Marie Ler says, Le Pen represents Germany, not France. I've
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heard that take. Oh, yeah, Joe Consumer, thank you very
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much for the $ 10. Stick to it, boys. We will try.
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We need more of that. Philip Blair, Robbie, Marxism works
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so well in Cuba that the U.S. is blockading them.
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Well, I guess it just depends, right? Because Cuba is
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an interesting test case because it never had a chance
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to even try. But no, China was, and I use
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that word deliberately, it was a communist state. I argue
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now it's actually a fascist state where you have a
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free market But it's dominated by the ruling class. So
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China's not communist.
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The food markets are always dominated by the ruling class.
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But no, because the oligarchs, like, for example, here, Elon
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Musk and his ilk run run the American government. Whereas
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in China, the government will put someone like him to death.
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That's the difference in China. You can't change the party,
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but you can change the system in the West. You
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can change the system. You can change the party, but
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you can't change the system. That's the fundamental difference between,
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between the two Cuba. I just, I don't see how,
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I just don't see how, even if it wasn't strangled,
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how it would work because it doesn't have the resources
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to be a communist state. Neither does Japan. You would
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have to be capitalistic to expand. You would have to
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exploit wealth somewhere else because you don't have any resources
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of your own.
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All right. And with that, I think we're going to
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call it a two hours. Thanks for tuning in. The
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program is here Monday through Friday at 9 a.m. Eastern time, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
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It goes to 11 Tuesday, Thursday. It goes till 10.
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That means tomorrow we go until 10 o'clock. Jamal will
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probably be out tomorrow. I'm thinking, but we'll let you
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know when we hear from him. I hope it's a win.
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I'm sure it's a win. And TMI show is back
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on the air tomorrow at 10 o'clock at its regular time,
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account and you forget all about it because one of
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those many little things. But, you know, hopefully it's something
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that brings some happiness and some utility into your life.
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We certainly enjoy doing this and would like to continue
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doing it. Robbie, thanks very much for filling in for Jamal.
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No, of course.
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And I'll try to get a host tomorrow. If I can't,
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you'll be stuck with me again. And for the record, personally,
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if I was if I had to pick a government system,
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I think I would pick the Chinese model because the
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state controls the resources. And they don't allow just the
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rampant exploitation of the people.
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All right. Robbie gets the last word. All right. See
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you tomorrow, Robbie. All right, buddy.
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Bye-bye.
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Bye.
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Bye. Bye.