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Speaker 1: The Frames Per Second Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frames Per Second Podcast where we are reviewing the latest A24 film, Primetime, which is a reenactment or a review of the Dateline TV show series.
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Speaker 3: I am not alone. I have everybody.
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Speaker 2: Here with me that you usually hear.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike.
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Speaker 1: Yo.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Rob.
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Speaker 1: What up, man?
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Ken. Hola. And special guest, A.B. How you feeling, my brother?
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Speaker 1: Feeling good. Feeling great, man. Appreciate the invite.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: You want to say A.B.
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Speaker 3: In a place to be?
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Speaker 1: Happy to keep that in touch. From what, Spike? Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: A.B.
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Speaker 2: From the On Tech TV show. Make sure y'all go check us out every Wednesday. Hip-hop perspectives from a southern point of view every week for the last, what.
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Speaker 3: 15 years?
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Speaker 1: A long time. 15 years? Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: God damn.
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Speaker 3: Give or take. Give or take. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: So without further ado, man, I think we all were interested in this film when we did the preview on the trailer reactions.
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Speaker 3: A.B., I'll start with you since you are a guest today.
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Speaker 2: How were you feeling about primetime going into it and what did you think about it coming out?
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Speaker 1: I was hyped for it. I watched To Catch a Predator back in the day like a lot of people. But walking out, I definitely was let down. I thought it was slightly above average. Some things just took me out of it. I thought it was a little over-dramatized. It was ambitious in the way they did it, but I thought it missed the mark. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Mike, what did you think? Dreadful.
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Speaker 1: Dreadful. Dreadful.
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Speaker 3: Woo! Great acting.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely horrific writing.
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Speaker 3: Think i kind of understand that uh rod what'd you think.
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Speaker 6: Slightly above average that's that's that's that's a new one um not quite where mike is but somewhere in that area um i wasn't i didn't.
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Speaker 3: Watch uh catch a predator back in the day i.
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Speaker 6: Might have seen maybe a clip or something here and there but that's not something that was on my tv um so that part that interest wasn't ever there when I saw the previews. I liked the acting from the previews and stuff. I was like, okay, that seemed like it could be interesting, but yeah, yeah, I agree. The acting was done well, but I don't.
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Speaker 1: Know, man.
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Speaker 3: It just didn't, it's just something was off about it for me.
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Speaker 6: Like, it just didn't feel like a cohesive type of movie.
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. It just, yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It had moments though, but yeah, it's just, I don't know. Ken, what'd you think?
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Speaker 7: Um, This morning, I thought I was going to have to wear my childlike palette shirt because I was like, nah, y'all can keep this shit, bro. And I thought I was going to be the only one that didn't like it. So I'm surprised. Because it was artsy and all kind of weird and shit like that.
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Speaker 3: So you say you think Mike would have liked it?
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Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying I think it would have been elevated above what it actually is.
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Speaker 3: But I never watched the show, so I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, well, maybe I didn't.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't either?
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Speaker 1: Am I the only one that.
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Speaker 3: Watched the show?
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Speaker 1: No, I watched it.
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Speaker 3: I watched it. I've never seen it. That shit was much CTV.
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Speaker 1: It was, bro. Really?
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Speaker 3: So that's how it went for real?
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Speaker 1: No, not on the movie. Oh, in real life?
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Speaker 5: Yes, you were at home like, who are they going to get today?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So it was like cheaters almost.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes. He spent more time with them, though, when they would get kind of caught up. He'd probe and ask questions and stuff. He'd spend more time, but they didn't capture him. The essence of the show at all. Really?
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Speaker 3: Exactly. I was wondering that. That goes to my review on it.
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Speaker 1: It was cool.
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Speaker 2: The acting was good, as some of y'all said, but it just wasn't about the show enough. I don't give a fuck about the dude that's acting as the.
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Speaker 3: The kid? Yeah, I don't care about him.
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Speaker 1: That was the most intriguing part. I don't care. That took me out of it.
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Speaker 2: I could give two fucks about dude. I could give two fucks about the cheating. None of that mattered to me. I don't care about dude, bro. I don't care about him trying to make it as an actor doing date money.
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Speaker 5: Oh, you're talking about that dude. Are you talking about Chris Hansen?
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Speaker 1: No, I ain't talking about Chris Hansen. The child actor.
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Speaker 3: Oh, because I was like, he's on your shirt. I'm confused. I don't care about this man.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about this motherfucker on my shirt. It's my shirt.
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Speaker 3: He just on it.
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Speaker 2: I would have preferred it to be more about the show or even diving more into Chris Hansen. I just feel like it was the whole procedure part of it, which I thought I would like, but I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I just.
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Speaker 3: I like to produce a lady. That was pretty cool. But other than that, man, I agree with you. I don't get why they did that.
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Speaker 7: Like, why did they put so much focus on that guy?
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Speaker 4: Because he was, a lot of people think that he was basically why the show ended. Ended?
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 5: And I think, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because, I mean, it's not true, but people think that their show ended because of the suicides.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about that one.
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Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about the actor guy. I'm talking about the actor guy.
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Speaker 4: I know, but the actor guy was the one that was connecting everybody to what they were calling the white whale.
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? Daniel Plum.
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Speaker 5: Daniel Plum, who's based on a real guy.
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Speaker 3: So that's the CIA agent thing? He was the district attorney. Not the district attorney, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Who was the white whale?
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He is the district attorney.
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Speaker 3: And you're saying that the white guy is the one.
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Speaker 4: That Because he was the decoy that was luring him in.
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Speaker 1: Got you, got you, got you.
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Speaker 5: And I think they were trying to add, like, here's the heart of the story. It's just he didn't connect.
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Speaker 1: Because, first of all, you look 42.
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Speaker 5: I'm not believing that you're 12.
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Speaker 3: Hi, guys.
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Speaker 1: Hi. The voice was crazy. But that's how he sounded, though.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. It is.
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Speaker 1: That's how he sounded. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I got some cookies.
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Speaker 1: That's how he sounded.
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Speaker 4: But he ain't look like this dude. Like, the real decoy, he looked like he was a child. This guy, I'm like, bro, if you got fooled by him, you deserve to get killed.
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Speaker 3: So he's like Stuart Little.
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Speaker 1: What's the name?
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Speaker 3: And then his name, the little dude.
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Speaker 1: The little mouse?
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Speaker 3: No, no, not Stuart Little. What's the dude? Stuart Smart. What was the guy? He was a tiny guy. He played in some movies.
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Speaker 1: Willow.
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Speaker 3: Not Willow, man.
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Speaker 5: Little tiny guy.
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Speaker 3: He didn't look like a dwarf guy or anything like that. He looked like a.
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Speaker 3: Regular size. Gary Coleman? No, not Gary Coleman.
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Speaker 1: It comes to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look it up. All right, so we get into the movie with a cold open with the ex-Marine.
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Speaker 2: There's a stinging process. We get Hanson coming out doing the famous, what are you doing here? Have a seat type thing. Robert Pattinson actually bought it.
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Speaker 1: You think so?
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Speaker 3: I think he killed it. You think differently since you watched the show?
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Speaker 1: I thought the way he came out on that first scene set the stage for me not to like the movie. Really? I thought he did. It was way overdramatized. It almost felt like this was the audition tape. And then they kept it. You know how you do the audition tape? You're like, yo, this is my take on it. And what the directors and the producers are supposed to take that and then mold it to the actual thing? They were like, no, just keep doing that. And that's how it felt. It was doing way too much, bro. With the dark, like the tint on the... I was just like, bro, what are they doing? It was too flashy. It was too... Stylized. It made it seem fake.
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Speaker 6: Well, you say stylized. That's how TV looked then, though. You talking about like the.
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Speaker 1: It was like the lens flares and the kind of the... Somebody was putting a little too much sauce on top of it.
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Speaker 6: Because I did like the aesthetic of the old TV style. The grainy kind of.
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Speaker 1: I did like that. And then the framing, I think they did like the... Yeah. The traditional style, yeah. That was cool.
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Speaker 6: That part was cool, but I do get you on the extra glare. He was doing the most.
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Speaker 1: I'm so with A.B.
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Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
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Speaker 5: A hundred. A hundred percent.
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Speaker 4: I hate to side with a Jay-Z fan like this.
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Speaker 3: He's got the shirt on and everything, bro.
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Speaker 1: A.B.
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Speaker 5: Is saying everything I'm thinking. Everything I'm thinking.
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Speaker 2: Tell me more, because that's really what had me in the movie was him acting like us.
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Speaker 1: Did you say you watched the show or not?
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Speaker 3: Every night. I wasn't... You stay a poser.
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Speaker 1: You stay a poser. It's just for the show.
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Speaker 7: I could care less.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely just for the show. If you watch the show, you won't like that shit.
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Speaker 3: I'm not representing at all. I want y'all to know this.
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Speaker 7: I thought the acting was good.
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Speaker 1: It was good.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting.
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Speaker 1: So you said it's good, it just wasn't Chris Hansen. Yes.
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Speaker 5: The acting was great. It just was not Chris Hansen.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point.
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Speaker 4: It did not feel like, it almost sounded like him at times, but it sounded like AI trying to pretend to be Chris Hansen. It felt robotic as hell. When you watch Chris Hansen, he's definitely tight assed. But it didn't feel like that.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 4: It felt like somebody trying to do an SNL skit pretending to be Trish Hansen.
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Speaker 1: Bingo. It was an impression. Yes. Somebody doing an impression.
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Speaker 3: Interesting. And not like Ray.
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Speaker 1: Say again?
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Speaker 3: Not like Ray.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 5: Jamie Foxx became Ray.
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Speaker 1: 100%. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Got it.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 5: But Chris, I mean, Robert Pattinson is still one of the best of our generation. He's a great actor.
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Speaker 3: Chris Hansen.
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Speaker 5: Of this generation, I mean.
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Speaker 4: Huh?
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Speaker 1: He hates it. I don't blame him. I'm with him on that. I would hate it if I was him, too.
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Speaker 3: Who does Chris Hansen hate? He hates everything. He walked out of the... Premiere? No, he walked out before they even showed it to him because of the story.
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Speaker 1: He was involved?
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Speaker 3: He was at first.
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Speaker 5: He wasn't involved.
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Speaker 1: At first, he was.
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Speaker 4: He gave an interview that I watched last night where he said that they didn't even talk to him.
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Speaker 2: I read something where he said he went to A24 and they pitched it to him and he walked out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Like, he wasn't involved. Sorry, I guess semantics.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: He wasn't involved in the creation of the film.
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Speaker 1: Got it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because he didn't like the way that it was going.
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Speaker 2: He thought that it should be about what the purpose of the show was more so than the dramatizing of that last thing that happened.
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Speaker 5: And he said 90% of the shit didn't actually happen.
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Speaker 1: Right. And you can tell.
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Speaker 5: And you can definitely tell.
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Speaker 1: You can tell. I was going to ask y'all.
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Speaker 5: The producer didn't even exist.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that lady.
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Speaker 5: They just made her up.
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Speaker 3: They made her up.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, what are y'all doing?
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Speaker 3: Why are y'all doing this?
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Speaker 1: Just put an extra storyline in there.
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Speaker 5: It's like, for what?
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Speaker 1: But I understand some based on a true story movies do that. Like, you understand they're going to take some liberties.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it says inspired by. At the end, it does say inspired by.
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Speaker 1: But you can tell with this, though. I'm like, yo, that absolutely did not. I wasn't even there. That didn't happen. I could tell.
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Speaker 2: The Lost thing was that that didn't happen. The Lost thing didn't happen?
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Speaker 4: Nope.
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Speaker 1: It only went up against Lost twice. And the whole.
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Speaker 2: Time that it showed. All the other times it was showing differently. So comparing it to Lost.
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Speaker 1: I just made that up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like you say, sometimes they do it in the dramatization, sometimes they don't.
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Speaker 3: Well, did it ever come out primetime?
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Speaker 1: It was. It was?
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Speaker 4: It was, but he also said it had nothing to do with that.
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Speaker 5: Other reporter guy.
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Speaker 1: I forget his name. Stone Phillips.
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Speaker 5: Stone Phillips. He said he had nothing to do with him.
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Speaker 3: But it wasn't always primetime, right?
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Speaker 1: No. So it became.
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Speaker 3: So was that dude primetime before him or something?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 5: I don't even know who the hell that dude was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stone Phillips was like the face of.
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Speaker 2: It says the first version of the segment was branded Dangerous Web with Stone Phillips. That's one of the reasons the film invents a Hanson-Phillips rivalry. So the first version of the show was supposed to be with Stone Phillips.
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Speaker 5: See what it said? It invented a rivalry.
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Speaker 4: It's like, why are y'all... When the show itself was groundbreaking enough and the story around the show is... detailed and crazy enough why do you need to make stuff up you don't like that doc that predators.
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Speaker 5: Documentary i don't know if you saw.
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Speaker 1: That that was better than that was way better than this what's that it's.
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Speaker 4: A documentary about the creation of the show and all the effed up things that happened while the show was going yeah that was better than.
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Speaker 1: This 100 that that captured the essence of the show yes way better than this movie did it came out last year too it's always it's fresh.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking that this movie would be more of, and that's what I want this conversation to be more than a chronological going over.
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Speaker 3: I'll, of course, point out things that happened.
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Speaker 2: But I thought this would be more of a breakdown of the show, which is why I was disappointed by it. Because I was familiar, didn't watch it every week like y'all are saying, but I did want to know more about the show. So y'all saying the doc is the way you find me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Because this was, I immediately got taken out when they went to, again, the decoy dude. Because I was like this thing, I don't care. It's not a part of the story to me.
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Speaker 4: And you know the guy that made this movie is a documentary filmmaker. That's what makes this even weirder. The guy that made this movie is a documentary filmmaker, so he should know the importance of telling a story and being actually accurate. He clearly doesn't know how to write a fictional story, because this is bad.
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Speaker 1: This had to be his first or second. It's got to be early in his filmography. It's got to be.
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Speaker 2: With that being said, we see the first scene. He comes out. We do the whole thing. Y'all said y'all didn't like it. It was too overactive. What about when they were working with the perverted justice team and they were telling you how they reel people in, how the whole process worked, that worked for you, Kent, not being a viewer of the show?
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Speaker 7: Um, I was, I was, I was hoping so, but, uh, You know, I was expecting more details, more information about the process, the procedures, and stuff like that. And I don't really feel like I got any of that.
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Speaker 1: It was more about this.
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Speaker 7: Dramatized version of who Chris Hansen is perceived to be or actually is. Because I didn't, you know, I know Mike used to talk about it all the time, but I've never even watched it.
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Speaker 3: I never even went to YouTube just to even watch a show. Really, you never seen an episode?
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Speaker 1: Just to even.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen one episode.
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Speaker 1: You should, because you would like it.
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Speaker 3: Definitely.
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Speaker 2: Since you've never seen an episode, what did you think when the dude hopped out with the Walt Jr.
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Speaker 1: Stilts? Oh, bruh.
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Speaker 3: Because that happened for real.
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Speaker 1: That did happen? Yes.
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Speaker 3: That was for real. No, I remember that. That did, that did. I remember that.
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Speaker 1: There's a ton of, that's light.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's light. That's light.
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Speaker 1: It's a wild shit happened on that show, bro. Yes.
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Speaker 3: I was the only person.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it was wild enough with the first guy talking about I brought a gift and he had some whipped cream or some shit.
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Speaker 1: It's like, bro, that happened too. That happened?
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's for real.
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Speaker 5: I don't think the guy actually put it on his stuff.
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Speaker 3: No, he did, but he had it with him.
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Speaker 1: But he had it with him. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And there were multiple times where they would find stuff in their trunk, like, you know, Chains, handcuffs, knives.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they missed the boat, bro. Yeah, they should have went more into that.
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Speaker 2: Because even being a lackadaisical view of the show, I knew it was some crazy shit that happened.
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Speaker 1: People would have got ass naked, bro. Yeah. Dudes have got ass naked.
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Speaker 7: Why did they leave that part out? That was like the craziest episode. The decoy would walk out and they'd walk back in. Dude was butt ass naked.
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Speaker 5: And Chris Hansen was like, what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Here's a towel. Here's a towel. What are you doing?
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Speaker 5: Dude was completely naked.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 5: It shouldn't be hilarious, but it was hilarious.
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Speaker 1: See, that's what makes the show so intriguing. Because it's disturbing, but then there's so many moments that are funny as fuck. Like, Chris Hansen's one-liners when he comes out. They didn't really do that good in the movie.
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Speaker 3: They didn't.
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Speaker 1: He is hilarious when he comes out.
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Speaker 3: They saw the whole cookies thing.
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Speaker 7: The cookies thing, they kind of barely grazed over, but that was a thing.
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Speaker 3: That was a funny moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Like, the cookies thing happened every.
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Speaker 1: Cookies.
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Speaker 5: I'm baking cookies.
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Speaker 1: And he'll come out and be like, you want a cookie? No, no. They would be eating the cookies. He'd be like, how's the cookie? And they'd be like, oh, shit. Is it chewy?
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Speaker 5: Is it good?
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Speaker 3: Is it crunchy? And their faces, when he came out and said that, would be priceless.
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Speaker 1: Everything.
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Speaker 7: They didn't capture that. That was a part of the show, and they just missed it.
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Speaker 3: Was that the Hispanic dude? The military guy? That had the cookies?
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Speaker 1: But that was a staple in the show, though. That was a regular.
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Speaker 3: The cookies man? Yeah, the cookie thing was a regular.
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Speaker 5: And they glossed over my man Moss, man. They showed him at the very beginning.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's when we talk with somebody?
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Speaker 1: Bruh.
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Speaker 4: That was the funniest joke of that show, because they didn't even really talk about this, but when the people would walk outside, the cops were always there. But they had this overzealous dude that would be dressed in like.
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Speaker 4: But he looks like a bush. He'd be hiding in the bushes. And he would jump out and tackle him. And they'd be like, bro, that's not necessary.
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Speaker 1: They're not running.
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Speaker 3: They ain't going nowhere. They're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 5: You see him walk out and just be like, okay, I guess I'm arrested.
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Speaker 7: But a lost man jumped out. That was the one guy because he body slammed it up. They glossed over it. They should have put more emphasis on that because, yeah, they glossed over that one.
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Speaker 5: They left out the best parts of this F-Dub show.
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Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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Speaker 2: What did you think about seeing how the machine worked as far as the perverted justice, luring them in, chat rooms?
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Speaker 3: Was that appealing at all?
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Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't like watching stuff like that. I would have never watched a show like this.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: I just... I don't know.
00:16:45
Speaker 3: That's just not my bag at all. I just don't get entertainment from this. I didn't watch Cheaters.
00:16:51
Speaker 6: I saw a couple episodes of that. I think the only thing I watch close to something like this is probably Cops.
00:16:57
Speaker 3: I watch Cops.
00:16:57
Speaker 1: Of course you would watch Cops.
00:17:00
Speaker 3: Cops was funny, bro. Cheaters was funny.
00:17:02
Speaker 5: He was just waiting for his future to lie.
00:17:04
Speaker 1: Cops was funny.
00:17:05
Speaker 5: I can't wait to be one of these guys.
00:17:06
Speaker 3: Cops was funny. I'm just saying that's probably the only thing I watch that's.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: Close to it.
00:17:10
Speaker 3: I can't believe you watch Cheaters.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Cheaters either.
00:17:13
Speaker 3: Y'all didn't like none of the good shit. I've only seen a couple of episodes probably because a girlfriend was watching it.
00:17:18
Speaker 5: When he got stabbed on the boat.
00:17:19
Speaker 1: That shit is hilarious.
00:17:20
Speaker 3: Y'all seen when he got stabbed? Oh my God.
00:17:24
Speaker 1: What?
00:17:24
Speaker 3: On a boat. Was he on a boat?
00:17:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on a boat. The host got stabbed, bro. That shit was hilarious, bro. That was must-see TV, man.
00:17:32
Speaker 3: That was must-see TV.
00:17:34
Speaker 6: But the one question I did have when I was watching, I'm like, yo, how... kind of like what one of the guys said at the end, like, how do they get away with this? Like, I don't understand how do you, how can you air something like this?
00:17:46
Speaker 1: Because it's considered news. I wondered that too. It's considered news? Yeah, it's considered news, so they don't have to get, like, the people to sign off.
00:17:55
Speaker 3: Right, that's what I'm saying.
00:17:56
Speaker 2: The waiver, yeah, like usually. But shoot, even on the news you have to get a waiver signed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to.
00:18:01
Speaker 1: Get a waiver. They touched on it briefly in the documentary. They talked about how it's, it kind of falls under the guise of news and so they didn't have to.
00:18:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was wondering that. So that was something I would.
00:18:10
Speaker 3: Have wanted them to explain if they didn't. Oh, my bad.
00:18:13
Speaker 1: No, no, that's it.
00:18:13
Speaker 3: That's all I was going to say.
00:18:14
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I don't think on the news you do have to get waivers because they show criminals' faces all the time, and I'm sure they're not signing waivers.
00:18:20
Speaker 3: Their rights are probably removed.
00:18:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that might be.
00:18:23
Speaker 1: That might be why, yeah.
00:18:24
Speaker 4: The majority of the early captures or whatever, they didn't get prosecuted.
00:18:30
Speaker 1: Interesting.
00:18:31
Speaker 3: What?
00:18:31
Speaker 1: Because the show ended up.
00:18:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's saying. The little known facts.
00:18:35
Speaker 2: The DA refused to prosecute most of the people that they arrested when they did their Texas thing.
00:18:41
Speaker 1: No, all of them. All the Texas ones. None of those got prosecuted. When the dude killed himself, all of them got prosecuted. That's wild. Yeah.
00:18:48
Speaker 5: But it was the show's fault. I mean, yeah, I get you.
00:18:51
Speaker 1: It's Texas. But the show fucked up. But it's also the show. Dang, that's wild.
00:18:54
Speaker 6: And I guess that's kind of what I'm saying. How do you get away with this?
00:18:59
Speaker 3: It has to be something that you can't... I mean, show faces for one. You can.
00:19:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can.
00:19:05
Speaker 5: I think if you're criminals, you can because it happens all the time on the news.
00:19:08
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting, though, because it.
00:19:11
Speaker 2: Can probably, but then when it makes it to court, they probably won't get prosecuted. So it's defeating the whole purpose of outing them.
00:19:16
Speaker 4: Well, the later ones got prosecuted. So I don't think it was an issue with showing their.
00:19:20
Speaker 3: Face on TV.
00:19:20
Speaker 1: If they working with police, maybe. Already. I don't know. I don't know.
00:19:24
Speaker 3: Because at first they weren't working with police, I thought.
00:19:26
Speaker 1: No, they weren't. The first season or two, people didn't, there were no police outside.
00:19:30
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:19:30
Speaker 1: They would just walk and get in the car and do it. Okay.
00:19:33
Speaker 7: So it basically was a, uh, A private investigation by a news organization that had no legal founding.
00:19:40
Speaker 4: And then the cops became involved and they made it. That makes sense, actually.
00:19:44
Speaker 2: But then once the people get a lawyer, the lawyer probably could argue that this was maybe entrapment.
00:19:50
Speaker 3: Or some shit like that.
00:19:51
Speaker 4: I don't think, I don't know that entrapment works with pedophilia. I think you can, like, because this happens all the time.
00:19:57
Speaker 5: Like, cops set up sting traps all the time.
00:19:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, police do this.
00:19:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't think, I think y'all are hitting it on the head.
00:20:02
Speaker 4: I think once the police got involved, that legitimized the operation and that led to them getting prosecuted.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about Chris Hansen at home when they were talking about the cheating, his wife, how she felt about him, the kids.
00:20:16
Speaker 3: Did anybody care about this?
00:20:18
Speaker 6: I have one fact real quick, though, about the face thing. Freedom of the press protects the right of news outlets to document public activities, protests, and street scenes without needing sign release forms. So it is kind of like what you were saying because under the news thing, they're able.
00:20:34
Speaker 1: To do it. So I just wanted to say that. Okay. I ain't gonna lie, his wife being on affairs threw me off. It threw me completely off. I was in Scary Movie. I immediately thought of Scary Movie, and it took me, it looked like a spoof.
00:20:45
Speaker 3: Because I don't even remember where she was in outside of that.
00:20:49
Speaker 1: I don't mean either.
00:20:49
Speaker 3: So it's just like, that's what I thought. That's where my mind went.
00:20:52
Speaker 7: Immediately this is like a silly white white girl from scare movie yeah yeah she's super silly and it's like what but we didn't did we even see her yeah i mean she put her feet on his toes licking her feet.
00:21:05
Speaker 4: Oh maybe she's trying to break out of the comedian thing and try to be like.
00:21:08
Speaker 7: This ain't it that was his wife or that was his wife i thought that was the person he was cheating with no that's.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: Not remembering he went home to his kids and yeah Like, look at my show. I got him out of bed. He was mad about that.
00:21:19
Speaker 5: Chris Hansen was pissed about that because they made all that up.
00:21:22
Speaker 1: Oh, wow. None of that about his family. He said, I would never do that. Oh, my God. What just happened?
00:21:27
Speaker 3: He didn't cheat on his family.
00:21:28
Speaker 1: Oh, no, that happened. That happened later.
00:21:29
Speaker 5: It happened way later.
00:21:30
Speaker 2: It didn't happen during the ratings thing. It happened a lot later once the show was canceled. Oh, but they put it in the middle.
00:21:37
Speaker 5: But it didn't help because no one cared.
00:21:40
Speaker 1: No one cared.
00:21:41
Speaker 3: I didn't care about it. Yeah, exactly. They didn't do a good job of developing that part.
00:21:46
Speaker 1: Agreed. Because you could, because he's seen as like, he's getting, they're shaking his head, he's taking pictures of police. This stand-up dude who's really got another side going on. You could have easily worked that somehow, but it didn't convey at all.
00:22:00
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00:22:37
Speaker 3: That didn't convey.
00:22:38
Speaker 2: Did the meeting with the head of NBC convey about, okay, it's catching on. People love it. You're now about to be competing with Lost. They do the little thing about all the old shows, which I liked.
00:22:49
Speaker 3: I liked that.
00:22:50
Speaker 2: That was kind of nostalgic, seeing all the old shows and remembering that. Did that work for y'all, the meeting, telling him, all right, this is it?
00:22:57
Speaker 7: I mean, it seemed on par with what a news station would do or some media outlet to get the ratings up.
00:23:05
Speaker 1: But that's about it, though.
00:23:07
Speaker 3: I mean, it.
00:23:08
Speaker 5: Was fine as a passing moment. It wasn't anything that I wanted.
00:23:11
Speaker 3: To sit with. Nothing.
00:23:14
Speaker 1: I mean, it was all right. I think the moral dilemma of how far do we take this to get ratings and to make sure people watch it versus how does the system work? Are you supposed to go about it this way? That kind of dilemma is a good basis to build upon. So that helped with that. Again, I don't think they landed it. They didn't stick it, though. But that's a good dilemma, in my opinion. It's something they could have built off of.
00:23:41
Speaker 3: I just like hearing him say, yeah, you got to go against loss. I was like, oh, shit.
00:23:45
Speaker 1: They don't want that loss. They don't want that. I was going to ask you all this.
00:23:49
Speaker 3: You went outside when that loss was outside.
00:23:51
Speaker 5: I didn't know that didn't happen.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
00:23:53
Speaker 5: I didn't know that was fake.
00:23:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fake. That was my shit, too.
00:23:55
Speaker 2: Me and loss were crazy. When loss came on, was it Thursdays? When loss came on?
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was Monday.
00:24:03
Speaker 3: Of the TV every week.
00:24:04
Speaker 1: That was another one I didn't watch. Really?
00:24:07
Speaker 5: That's what we have now, right?
00:24:10
Speaker 1: That's the first show that really talked Easter eggs. Yeah, that was the one. That's the first one.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: That's the one.
00:24:18
Speaker 5: Damn, that's a good point.
00:24:19
Speaker 3: They were like, you won't lie. Like, what's going to happen?
00:24:22
Speaker 1: Theories. Yeah, reaction videos. None of that existed before Lost.
00:24:26
Speaker 4: I guess there was Twin Peaks, but I think Twin Peaks was a much lesser extent than Lost.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
00:24:32
Speaker 5: I think Lost was the show.
00:24:33
Speaker 1: Mainstream. Damn, that's a good point.
00:24:35
Speaker 5: I've never heard people say that.
00:24:36
Speaker 1: No. No.
00:24:37
Speaker 3: It definitely is.
00:24:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:24:39
Speaker 3: What y'all think about that weird-ass vending machine moment? I hated this. What was that?
00:24:43
Speaker 1: Why is this in here? This made it feel more.
00:24:45
Speaker 7: Let's go to y'all point about the school shit.
00:24:47
Speaker 2: When he was at the vending machine, the shit got stuck there. He called the vending machine company.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That was early on, yeah. Like, what was it? Are we supposed to say, like, that he's some type of anal? Yeah, like, about the detail? I don't know.
00:25:00
Speaker 3: I don't care.
00:25:01
Speaker 7: Like, that didn't hit.
00:25:03
Speaker 5: They were trying to set him up to be, like, a sociopath.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: Right.
00:25:08
Speaker 5: Or was it psychopath or sociopath? I get them mixed up. Sociopath.
00:25:12
Speaker 1: So, like.
00:25:13
Speaker 4: All he cared about was getting what he wanted, so he was going to call them. But this scene didn't hit.
00:25:17
Speaker 1: No, it didn't.
00:25:18
Speaker 7: I was in the theater like, what is that? Why did they add this in here? That's what I was looking at.
00:25:23
Speaker 3: Like, bro, why did they add this? It didn't add anything to anything.
00:25:27
Speaker 1: And this leads to the trailer threw me, even though I was excited to watch it, the trailer did throw me off because you couldn't tell were they trying to paint him as, like, is this about him?
00:25:35
Speaker 3: Or the show?
00:25:36
Speaker 1: Or is it about the show and, like, the darkness of the trailer? It's like, wait, is there another side to Chris Hedges? Like, are they about to expose him? Yeah, like, so that kind of throws to that point.
00:25:45
Speaker 7: That's what I thought they were doing with the, you know, with them cheating. I thought they were going to go there with that. Yeah.
00:25:50
Speaker 1: But they didn't really.
00:25:51
Speaker 4: Whoever made this trailer went to the same school of the dude that makes the M.
00:25:55
Speaker 5: Night Shalaman trailer. Every time I see an M.
00:25:58
Speaker 4: Night Shalaman trailer, I'm like, yo, this movie looks amazing.
00:26:01
Speaker 1: Fire.
00:26:01
Speaker 5: And it's always garbage.
00:26:03
Speaker 4: Yep.
00:26:03
Speaker 3: It's always garbage.
00:26:03
Speaker 1: That's my boy, too, man. I hate that form. You like the new movie you got.
00:26:07
Speaker 3: Which one?
00:26:08
Speaker 1: Oh, The Trap?
00:26:10
Speaker 3: No, no, it's a new movie that he's coming out with.
00:26:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, but that's just me gassing him up, hoping that he finally gets back to his original form. All right. Good luck. All right.
00:26:19
Speaker 3: So the Stone Phillips thing didn't work for anybody.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Nope.
00:26:22
Speaker 3: That was random.
00:26:23
Speaker 5: Mainly because I didn't know who he was.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: I knew who he was because I heard his name. It was random.
00:26:28
Speaker 3: They had to have been in the mission. All that stuff was so early in the movie.
00:26:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why?
00:26:33
Speaker 3: If you're not going to flesh it out. I feel like they left a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor for this movie. Yeah, it's kind of like spliced stuff together.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: It felt like that.
00:26:41
Speaker 5: The ending was kind of crazy.
00:26:42
Speaker 1: Bingo.
00:26:43
Speaker 5: It did feel like that.
00:26:45
Speaker 3: What about the producer? I like the producer lady. I will say that. She was intriguing.
00:26:48
Speaker 6: Even though it was made up, I think it was an intriguing part of the story.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: That probably was the best part for me.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: I always liked that role in different shows, with Morning Room or Newsroom. They showed their producer role. So I liked that. The job offer thing, I thought that was interesting. Did y'all get anything from that? The producer and the whole team?
00:27:08
Speaker 5: Just that I think she's a great actress.
00:27:10
Speaker 1: What else was she in?
00:27:11
Speaker 4: I only know her from Walking Dead. That's the only thing I can think of right now. But I know she's been in other things. Anytime I see her, I'm like, I know I watched something where she was a cop.
00:27:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that.
00:27:21
Speaker 4: But she was in something where she was a police officer.
00:27:24
Speaker 5: And she was amazing.
00:27:25
Speaker 2: I remember that and I can't place it because that's what I was thinking of in the movie. I think we did review it.
00:27:30
Speaker 1: She did a good job. I'm not mad at adding... an imaginary person to, if you're going to use it to walk the audience through, because they did that with Mark Wahlberg in the Boston Marathon bombing. His character didn't exist in real life, but he was the eyes of the audience to follow through. So there was a purpose. This one, again, felt half-baked to where either you're going to commit all the way and we're going to follow it through her eyes or whatever the case may be, or not. But it felt half-baked, but it worked for what it was, though. She was in severance.
00:28:03
Speaker 5: I just saw that, but I don't remember her in Severance.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: I don't remember her either. Godless, I haven't watched Severance.
00:28:09
Speaker 5: I don't remember her being in Severance. Oh, I'm thinking of.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: Wait.
00:28:13
Speaker 3: Severance.
00:28:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't remember her in Severance.
00:28:17
Speaker 3: That's his sister. Sure is. Yeah, that's it.
00:28:20
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:28:21
Speaker 3: I think, yeah.
00:28:21
Speaker 5: Well, I can't figure out what the... Unbelievable? Is that something?
00:28:25
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's it.
00:28:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was where that girl gets charged.
00:28:31
Speaker 4: She accuses somebody of rape. And then she gets charged with lying. She was a cop in that show. Had Toni Collette.
00:28:39
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, she was great in that. I ain't gonna lie, she had one of my best parts in the movie at the end, though. What's that? When the guy shot himself.
00:28:45
Speaker 3: Oh, she said, I can make some of this? Yeah, she said, I can make some of this.
00:28:49
Speaker 1: We can make some of this. Because they aired that episode. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker 3: That's what got them, took off.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what, yeah, that was the controversy. And they sauced it up, too. If you go and watch that episode, it's like, coming up today, things turned deadly. Like, it was real, like... Produce don't want to miss this. Yeah, exactly. It was very produced. That was one of the hardest lines of the movie. I was like, oh, wow.
00:29:11
Speaker 4: Did y'all catch the actor that played the ADA?
00:29:13
Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
00:29:15
Speaker 3: Pocaine Wubba.
00:29:17
Speaker 1: When he in his.
00:29:18
Speaker 5: He was the cowboy cop.
00:29:20
Speaker 1: He was awful.
00:29:22
Speaker 7: He was terrible.
00:29:24
Speaker 3: He played the hell out of that. I thought he was good.
00:29:28
Speaker 5: I thought he was good.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: He was a country ass nigga. I actually like this character. I did too, man. That was a country ass nigga.
00:29:35
Speaker 3: Damn, y'all didn't fuck with that? I liked it, man.
00:29:38
Speaker 1: I like what about it? I'm like, what are you doing?
00:29:40
Speaker 3: That's what he was supposed to do, though.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: That's that small town sheriff. Yeah, that's it.
00:29:46
Speaker 3: That was it.
00:29:46
Speaker 1: They do not sound like that. Come on, Ken. You from Mississippi. I like that. Ken, you from Mississippi.
00:29:51
Speaker 3: I know they don't sound like that. You know that dude right here.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more clear and it'll draw a little bit longer.
00:29:58
Speaker 3: A couple of them are here. Right.
00:30:00
Speaker 7: Going up to Stone Mountain with that crew.
00:30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that.
00:30:03
Speaker 3: It's like he was trying to sound like a white.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: He was.
00:30:06
Speaker 3: He probably was.
00:30:07
Speaker 5: He probably was cast as a white man, but then he quit when he came up. He was like, I'm not doing this trash-ass movie. Joaquin was like, hey, I'll do it.
00:30:14
Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, Dave Chappelle.
00:30:16
Speaker 5: Dave Chappelle's going to be in the movie.
00:30:17
Speaker 1: We're set. That is wild.
00:30:20
Speaker 3: And this dude showed up like.
00:30:21
Speaker 5: Wait, that's not Dave Chappelle.
00:30:22
Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
00:30:23
Speaker 5: No, the ADA was Bill from Bill and Ted.
00:30:25
Speaker 1: Dang. Really?
00:30:28
Speaker 5: The second I saw him, I was like, what the hell is Bill.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: Doing in this?
00:30:31
Speaker 3: I didn't even know, recognize him.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: What was Bill been doing before this? That's a good point. That's your answer.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: That's a good point. You might be on. That is.
00:30:40
Speaker 1: Wow.
00:30:41
Speaker 7: Hold on.
00:30:41
Speaker 3: Let me look up.
00:30:42
Speaker 5: And I think his name was like Bill in the movie.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. In this movie.
00:30:46
Speaker 2: What about the merch? The thong underwear and the lady not wanting to.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Because that was a real story.
00:30:55
Speaker 5: Oh, it was?
00:30:56
Speaker 3: That was a real story.
00:30:56
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Selling merch?
00:30:58
Speaker 2: The thong underwear where the decoy didn't like that they were selling thong underwear that said the 18 thing and she got mad about it.
00:31:04
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a real thing.
00:31:05
Speaker 7: I didn't know that was a real thing. That was the first one before Decoy Dan came on board.
00:31:11
Speaker 1: Decoy Dan came.
00:31:11
Speaker 3: It happened in real life.
00:31:13
Speaker 1: That's why she quit? No, they said she saw her dad. Yeah. Somebody that looked like her dad.
00:31:18
Speaker 4: Looked like her dad and she was like, I can't do this. That was a good little part.
00:31:22
Speaker 3: But it just happened and then they just told us about it.
00:31:25
Speaker 1: Blew past it. Yeah.
00:31:28
Speaker 2: All right, so we are introduced to Decoy Dan. He wants to be a big-time actor. He has this interesting relationship with his homeboy.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: Is that how you describe it?
00:31:40
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were going for.
00:31:42
Speaker 1: I was going to ask y'all.
00:31:43
Speaker 3: I didn't know either.
00:31:44
Speaker 5: Did y'all know what they were going with that?
00:31:47
Speaker 3: I have no idea. You got coffee in your room. Come on, that dude, right?
00:31:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. The dude that called him when he got there. I don't know what they were doing. They were sitting on the phone talking. They were implying some shit, but they never really did it.
00:31:59
Speaker 3: They never took it home.
00:32:00
Speaker 1: It was a lot of those moments.
00:32:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of teetered right there.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. What is this?
00:32:03
Speaker 6: Even with Chris Hansen and the dude, they had the music and stuff.
00:32:07
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, what are they saying about this situation?
00:32:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:32:10
Speaker 5: They even tried to imply that he was a pedo himself.
00:32:12
Speaker 3: Rob Markman Well, that's what I'm saying. Like different moments like that.
00:32:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker 1: It was weird. Rob Markman I don't know what the hell this movie was trying to do. Rob Markman I ain't gonna lie. The decoy Dan thing was interesting though. Rob Markman What made it interesting? Rob Markman Because I didn't think of it from that. It brought a perspective that I had never thought of being somebody that actually did watch the show. The kid was actually trying to become a serious actor. He's like, I'm gonna come in. I'm gonna be serious. I'm gonna do this. Then the third, like he even sung in the audition. I guess it was funny though. And they were like, yeah, you ain't gotta do all that.
00:32:38
Speaker 3: Rob Markman They did.
00:32:40
Speaker 1: Like, you cool. Mid-bar. They were like, yeah, no, you ain't got to do that.
00:32:43
Speaker 5: Overqualified.
00:32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, just relax. And that's true. He didn't know what he was actually auditioning for. And so when you have somebody that's like, like everybody that moves to L.A., I'm trying to be Tom Cruise, and really you're getting put on some, you know, D-level... Like, oh, damn. I never thought about that perspective. That was interesting to me. I'm not going to lie. 5,000 episodes.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: He's like, 5,000?
00:33:07
Speaker 1: For a few lines. For just a few lines. For a few lines. That ain't bad at all. You ain't doing shit. Hell yeah. Now.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: It's up half of it to be going to gas.
00:33:17
Speaker 1: All I got to do is pretend I'm a little kid. Come sit in the kitchen.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: All I got to do is say, I'm A.B. with a place of B.
00:33:23
Speaker 7: Of course I'll take five grand.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: Offer some cookies.
00:33:28
Speaker 4: All right.
00:33:30
Speaker 1: But nah, man.
00:33:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, dang.
00:33:32
Speaker 2: You like that role, Ron? The whole storyline about the D-Corp?
00:33:37
Speaker 6: Nah, I feel like it was better things to spend time on. I'm not saying that that wasn't something that we could have spent time on.
00:33:45
Speaker 3: I just felt like we should have spent time in other places.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Not if you say that. I'm with you because you're right. That is kind of interesting when you explain it from that perspective. But I just didn't care that we were there for so long and it was such a focal point. I wanted to know more about the show.
00:33:59
Speaker 4: Mike him looking like somebody's uncle just took man if they got another actor that actually could have looked like a kid Like I think even that dude from Resident Evil looks more like a kid Than this guy like this guy does not look like a child who remind.
00:34:11
Speaker 3: Me the actor from the bear The lead from the bear Jeremy, whatever. Yeah, that's who you Really?
00:34:17
Speaker 1: Jeremy White?
00:34:18
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
00:34:19
Speaker 1: I don't know why either.
00:34:20
Speaker 4: They just both white I guess But there has to be some other little white boy actor that they could have found that looks more like a kid.
00:34:27
Speaker 3: They could have just got one of the Stranger Things kid thing.
00:34:30
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:34:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, they could have got, what's the Wolfhard boy?
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have got him.
00:34:36
Speaker 4: He's got to be at least 1920 by now, right?
00:34:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know how old D. Cordain was during the time that he was supposed to be in that role. Yeah, so they could have easily found one of them. Maybe it was the.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: They couldn't have used Lucas. Nah.
00:34:50
Speaker 7: Right.
00:34:51
Speaker 1: He would have been one of the dudes getting set up. Luke would be like, where your kid at?
00:34:58
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how popular this movie was in Hollywood as far as them being able to cast that.
00:35:01
Speaker 3: Because even in Pattinson, he wasn't going to be in the movie. He was just a producer.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: And then at the last minute, since he was a producer, he decided to take the lead. Well, they decided he should be the leader. So maybe that's it. Oh, like Jay-Z trying to do with the Super Bowl?
00:35:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:35:17
Speaker 3: They could have got Wolfhard.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: He ain't doing nothing else. True.
00:35:20
Speaker 2: So, Decoy Dan's first thing, Crazy Frog 73. He finally figured out what he auditioned for, kid.
00:35:29
Speaker 3: Did this work for you?
00:35:31
Speaker 1: Is this the whip cream guy, bro?
00:35:36
Speaker 3: So, they didn't tell him at all.
00:35:38
Speaker 7: He just showed up, turned around somebody.
00:35:40
Speaker 3: He was so startled.
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Hey, bro.
00:35:43
Speaker 5: I don't know how true that is, though.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: No, he didn't know.
00:35:47
Speaker 3: He didn't know what he was there for?
00:35:48
Speaker 1: No.
00:35:48
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
00:35:49
Speaker 1: No, that's true, bro.
00:35:51
Speaker 3: That's so fucked up, bro.
00:35:52
Speaker 1: How is that possible?
00:35:53
Speaker 5: How is that possible?
00:35:54
Speaker 4: One, and two, why would they intentionally not tell you knowing you could break character and ruin the entire show? So I just don't know how much I believe it.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Or be in danger. Slick.
00:36:03
Speaker 7: Well, maybe he didn't break character because that's a great point. Maybe he didn't break character because he probably thought he was being tested.
00:36:10
Speaker 1: I don't know.
00:36:12
Speaker 7: Or he just kind of, I don't know. He probably made up some shit in his head. But I don't know. If that wasn't me, I would have.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Been like, well, what the?
00:36:18
Speaker 4: I can't imagine hard dick with whipped cream.
00:36:21
Speaker 1: Like, yes, for real.
00:36:23
Speaker 4: I don't think they showed it.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: I don't get this mom for real.
00:36:27
Speaker 5: Why do you want whipped cream on a soft dick? It's got to be hard. I'm done right now.
00:36:32
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, no, no.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: F this.
00:36:35
Speaker 5: Chris Hansen, get your ass.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I'm done. Yo, that was wild.
00:36:41
Speaker 3: That was wild. I got something else for you. He turned the room. He was like, oh.
00:36:46
Speaker 1: Bro, his reaction.
00:36:48
Speaker 7: And then on the edited version, he was looking at himself. He was started on the edited version. That was crazy. That was crazy.
00:36:57
Speaker 3: All right, so they worry about Dan leaving.
00:36:59
Speaker 1: That guy was like, this shit was normal. Go ahead, man. Yeah, man.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: They worry about Dan leaving, and the producer kind of Asks his Hanson to talk to him.
00:37:11
Speaker 3: What y'all think about the whole mentoring of Dan from Hanson?
00:37:16
Speaker 5: This is where he was trying to talk about that monster. Get this shit out of here. What are y'all doing?
00:37:23
Speaker 3: Are y'all serious?
00:37:24
Speaker 5: Like, why? Oh, there's this ancient eagle in India.
00:37:29
Speaker 1: What the hell?
00:37:31
Speaker 5: Bro, you're catching pedos. Just talk about that. Like, that's enough.
00:37:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to add story to it.
00:37:35
Speaker 5: You don't.
00:37:36
Speaker 1: I promise you, it works. It just works.
00:37:38
Speaker 7: Hey, man, these people are trying to sleep with kids, dog, and we locking them up. You ain't got to go to India. It's not a tough sell. Yeah, it ain't a tough sell.
00:37:46
Speaker 5: It's not.
00:37:46
Speaker 3: Like, it's really easy, bro. And then they start singing that song he auditioned.
00:37:50
Speaker 1: Yes. While he was walking to his hotel. I don't remember what the fuck that was. Yeah.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: And Dequa Day was like, man, I just want to get me a car, bro. I don't care nothing about India. I don't really care about.
00:38:05
Speaker 1: None of that, bro.
00:38:07
Speaker 3: Hey, come on.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: All right, next, we have the whole thing that happens in, well, you have this debate on if we're going to go to where we have everything planned out, where the producer wants to go, or if they're going to chase this whale and they're going to go to Texas and run an operation on the fly with there, and it's back and forth. Y'all think Hanson was right? Y'all think the producer was right? Or what about the situation was intriguing?
00:38:33
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Was Hanson for it or against it?
00:38:35
Speaker 3: He wanted to.
00:38:36
Speaker 1: He wanted the white whale, right?
00:38:38
Speaker 2: He wanted the whale if they had more proof.
00:38:40
Speaker 3: He wasn't for it at first.
00:38:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: He was intrigued by it, and it made sense to him. But he wasn't for it until the network was like, hey, dog, we're going to take you out of here.
00:38:52
Speaker 1: You need something big. Okay.
00:38:54
Speaker 3: That's when he was like.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: Let's go for it.
00:38:57
Speaker 3: That's when he was like, let's go for it.
00:38:59
Speaker 1: I mean, it's on brand. You know what I'm saying? It's on brand for the producer to be for it. It's on brand for Chris's motivation.
00:39:04
Speaker 2: But the producer wasn't for it, though. Now, she wanted to go where everything was set up and planned already. We got these people. We got these.
00:39:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We got these houses. Perfect. Already.
00:39:15
Speaker 2: Y'all trying to go over here on the fly just to find this random dude. And then that's when she was like, well, shit, I'll leave. And I like the pitch for that show that you fuck with.
00:39:23
Speaker 1: Oh, What Would You Do? That's my shit. Yeah. That was a real show, too?
00:39:26
Speaker 3: Hell, you ain't never seen that? You ain't never seen What Would You Do?
00:39:29
Speaker 1: Oh, yo. You Do? Oh, y'all.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: With John Quinones?
00:39:31
Speaker 1: What year was this? Around the same time.
00:39:33
Speaker 3: A little bit, about two, three years after I posted it. 2000s?
00:39:37
Speaker 1: Early 2000s. Early 2000s. That was my show.
00:39:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put you in a position where somebody, like she said, somebody yelling at a child in a.
00:39:46
Speaker 1: in a fucking diner. I'm a couple of years older than y'all. I was probably outside doing some shit. That's fair. I don't know. I'm not that, I don't think I'm that much older. I don't think I was watching TV like that.
00:39:56
Speaker 3: I wasn't either.
00:39:56
Speaker 6: That was like my college years. I wasn't doing much TV like that.
00:40:03
Speaker 1: What would you do with like the anti to catch a predator? It's like the opposite. It's kind of trying to show you that. I'd never heard of that show in my life. I thought they made that shit up.
00:40:10
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be heartwarming, but then it turned to like, oh, this dude is yelling racist shit at this other dude. Are you going to step in and say something?
00:40:17
Speaker 5: They do that now on YouTube.
00:40:19
Speaker 3: That's where they got all that shit?
00:40:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:20
Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
00:40:20
Speaker 1: Because that's the Catch a Predator spin-off. Well, not spin-offs, but wannabes.
00:40:25
Speaker 3: Inspired by.
00:40:26
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:40:26
Speaker 5: They talk about that in the documentary.
00:40:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that she said that. The producer was like, oh, yeah, you're basically stealing my show. Yeah, so you want to do my show? You want me to come do it?
00:40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, right. It's basically the anti-that.
00:40:37
Speaker 3: Did y'all like that?
00:40:39
Speaker 1: That was cool. Give me this show.
00:40:40
Speaker 3: I did like the.
00:40:40
Speaker 6: Little inserts of the real shows and stuff like that. I thought that was a nice little touch.
00:40:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:46
Speaker 3: Even though I don't know the shows, I figured that they were real shows.
00:40:49
Speaker 1: They were real. So, yeah. Okay.
00:40:51
Speaker 4: All right.
00:40:57
Speaker 2: Before we wrap up, we'll talk about the ending, the whole climax of it when they go to Texas.
00:41:00
Speaker 3: That's not a better word, J.
00:41:03
Speaker 1: My man Clymer, he's crazy. Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: Bro, this shit was on for 17 seasons?
00:41:07
Speaker 1: What would you do with a dope ass show, bro?
00:41:09
Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:10
Speaker 1: That's one of they biggest shows on ABC.
00:41:13
Speaker 3: What would you do? Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: Oh, that was 2008. But that's a good show, bro. Because it makes you think, what would you do in the season? Rob Markman, Jr.: No pun intended, but it puts you in the shoes, like, damn, what would I do if this shit happened to me?
00:41:29
Speaker 2: So the whole raid happens there in Texas. The rain was not true. That was added for dramatic effect. The what wasn't true?
00:41:36
Speaker 1: The rain.
00:41:37
Speaker 3: Oh, the rain. It was raining that day when they did that.
00:41:38
Speaker 1: They did it during the daytime, too.
00:41:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was in the daytime, not at night. But they got their white whale. The whole movie kind of hinges on this. And decoy Dan. Wait, before I get there, what did y'all think about him switching characters?
00:41:55
Speaker 1: Switching characters. Decoy Dan.
00:41:56
Speaker 3: Decoy Dan.
00:41:57
Speaker 1: Taking over.
00:41:57
Speaker 3: Did that happen?
00:41:58
Speaker 1: No. I don't remember that happening. It didn't. Okay.
00:42:00
Speaker 3: That was goofy.
00:42:02
Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job, though. To me, that was paid off.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: That looked good.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker 3: It was fine, but I just didn't understand it.
00:42:09
Speaker 1: Because Chris Hansen was somewhere.
00:42:11
Speaker 3: Laying on the floor.
00:42:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:13
Speaker 3: Panic attack or something.
00:42:14
Speaker 1: Where that came from, we don't know. He just laid on the floor. Oh, when he.
00:42:18
Speaker 2: And then when the available dude came and he switched the, excuse me.
00:42:22
Speaker 3: I did like that action.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: I did too.
00:42:23
Speaker 3: He did a good job of it, but it just was like, okay.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is my opportunity to be like a real, to me that paid off his story.
00:42:30
Speaker 3: He switched the roles and the different voice things. That did pay off.
00:42:34
Speaker 7: I thought it was, I was like, you about to get fired.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: But that didn't happen though.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: It did not.
00:42:40
Speaker 3: Nah.
00:42:41
Speaker 7: Because he was going through that stuff with his wife because the pictures came out. That's why he was kind of.
00:42:46
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:42:46
Speaker 2: Well, it was because the dude pulled up and left. They found out that they was there. Because maybe he went out.
00:42:51
Speaker 3: But that was another guy that... That was the DA, right? It's at the same house, though.
00:42:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they were leaking out the address.
00:42:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was like, don't go here because it's video.
00:43:00
Speaker 1: Right.
00:43:00
Speaker 2: And that's when he had the panic attack. And the wife stuff. And that's when the guy, the cripple guy showed up.
00:43:08
Speaker 3: It was before that. The handicapped guy showed up.
00:43:10
Speaker 1: It was before that.
00:43:11
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:43:12
Speaker 1: The cripple guy was earlier.
00:43:14
Speaker 3: It was before that.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: No, this was when we were in Texas now.
00:43:17
Speaker 3: Now we at the end in the rain with a car pulled up and they were waiting.
00:43:20
Speaker 1: And there was nobody in the car. Right.
00:43:22
Speaker 3: And then somebody else showed up. It was the guy on the stilt.
00:43:24
Speaker 1: Or whatever the name was. That was early. All right, I'm going to go with y'all.
00:43:28
Speaker 3: Y'all got it.
00:43:29
Speaker 1: It's three people yelling at me, so.
00:43:32
Speaker 4: Cool.
00:43:33
Speaker 1: That scene was insane. Like the bulletproof vest with the storm. I was like, bro.
00:43:38
Speaker 5: Y'all doing too much.
00:43:39
Speaker 3: Super dramatic.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: Facts. You need 50 cents, bro? I'm like, come on, fam. They did the absolute most.
00:43:47
Speaker 3: That guy was like the car drove itself. What happened? I don't know why they added that.
00:43:52
Speaker 1: I don't get that.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: I missed it. None of that made sense. It was building intensity, of course. Yeah, sure. But it didn't make sense.
00:43:59
Speaker 5: They were trying to make this a horror movie for whatever reason.
00:44:01
Speaker 7: Yeah, because they even shot little shots of him looking at something that looked like a monster.
00:44:06
Speaker 5: That was the monster from India.
00:44:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was in the.
00:44:09
Speaker 1: Oh, that's what that was? Okay.
00:44:10
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be a callback to that. I was like, bro, come on, man. What are we doing?
00:44:14
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at the review. This movie's getting great reviews. That's all that.
00:44:18
Speaker 2: And I don't get it.
00:44:20
Speaker 3: People are saying this is one of the best movies I've seen this year.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
00:44:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:44:26
Speaker 1: I was going to be in the minority here.
00:44:28
Speaker 2: No, this is just not worth it.
00:44:30
Speaker 6: I will say the person that was sitting next to me, they looked like they were really into it.
00:44:34
Speaker 1: People were laughing at certain parts.
00:44:36
Speaker 3: Check their laptop. Check their laptop.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: For real. All right, man. It ends with D.
00:44:44
Speaker 2: Quaid getting his sad card. Or at least y'all had something else about the suicide. So the suicide actually happened.
00:44:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:44:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was for real. That was a show.
00:44:53
Speaker 1: They broke protocol and went to the person's house. Yes. That happened.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: That's why we're making that a big deal.
00:44:58
Speaker 5: And they were the ones who pushed the cops to do it.
00:45:00
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:45:01
Speaker 5: It wasn't like there was some cowboy, negro.
00:45:05
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:45:05
Speaker 5: Let's go get them. It wasn't any of that. No pedo state. No pedo state.
00:45:10
Speaker 1: No pedos allowed in Texas.
00:45:11
Speaker 3: I'm watching this.
00:45:12
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't think this is going to work out. I didn't know it was going to be a suicide, but I'm like, I don't think this is going to work out the way you think. You're tipping your hand here. You're going to let them know you're coming. It's a DA. They can start pulling all kinds of favors to get out of this thing.
00:45:29
Speaker 3: The board just run.
00:45:30
Speaker 6: He noticed it off top on the phone. He was just like, let me go ahead. He started deleting all his stuff.
00:45:36
Speaker 1: That didn't happen either. The kid didn't call him on the phone when he was outside. Nope. The kid wasn't even there. He was at the crib. He wasn't on site.
00:45:43
Speaker 5: But the kid did feel bad about what happened.
00:45:46
Speaker 1: Kid being decoyed.
00:45:48
Speaker 3: Decoyed Dan, my bad.
00:45:49
Speaker 4: Real life decoyed Dan did feel bad about setting this dude up and about him killing himself.
00:45:54
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:45:55
Speaker 4: That was all real. But yeah, I don't know why they added like, oh, he's in the van.
00:45:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:45:59
Speaker 5: And then he does this dramatic walk off in the rain.
00:46:02
Speaker 1: It's like, this is stupid.
00:46:03
Speaker 4: And then you're singing him a song before he dies. Get the hell out of here with this nonsense.
00:46:08
Speaker 7: So were they implying that the DA dude didn't want anything sexual?
00:46:12
Speaker 3: He just wanted to spend time with him or something?
00:46:15
Speaker 4: They were trying to imply that there's a lot of different types of pedos, which is true. Mm-hmm.
00:46:20
Speaker 5: And this dude was actually wrestling with it.
00:46:22
Speaker 4: Because remember he put his laptop in the microwave and he was going to just.
00:46:27
Speaker 5: Blow the whole thing up?
00:46:29
Speaker 1: I don't remember that part.
00:46:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, he put his laptop in the microwave and at the last minute he opened up and took it back out because he was like, no, I got to have my CP. I think that they were just trying to show that there were a lot of different types of people, including ones that were wrestling with being pedos.
00:46:46
Speaker 3: Even the guy in the beginning, he seemed kind of nervous. They were always weird.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: That was on brand.
00:46:53
Speaker 2: It wasn't no stone cold killers you would think. They were weird. It's just like, bro, I got a family. Then I think the military was like, I got kids.
00:47:02
Speaker 1: And one of them said, I got kids.
00:47:04
Speaker 5: And that's the reason you shouldn't be doing that.
00:47:07
Speaker 3: Because he was skeptical about the cookies. He was like, you bake cookies?
00:47:11
Speaker 1: He was just like, wait, what? I did want to know, from people who haven't watched it, do you think they... Do you think they painted like the stakes of that last, the person shooting himself? Was that like, did that land at all? Because that was a big deal when that shit happened.
00:47:28
Speaker 3: I thought all that shit was fake.
00:47:31
Speaker 7: I thought they made all that shit up because at this point they doing all these kind of effects and they got... Chris Hansen making weird faces and stuff when he did a little face, and whatever he was doing.
00:47:43
Speaker 3: I was going to ask y'all where they got their phone and why.
00:47:45
Speaker 1: Nope.
00:47:46
Speaker 7: If it was crazy like that. So by the time we got here, I'm like, y'all just making some stuff up just to make a movie.
00:47:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't know that that really happened.
00:47:55
Speaker 3: Just not like that.
00:47:57
Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
00:47:57
Speaker 3: Just not like that. So, yeah, at this point, I'm done with the movie. I'm ready to go. For me.
00:48:03
Speaker 7: It made it make more sense, because I figured, like, okay, this is probably why the show was canceled, because somebody killed himself or whatever.
00:48:09
Speaker 6: So I was like, okay, I think that landed in the sense of, like, story, right? But landing in the sense.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: Of, like, oh, man, like, oh, my God, that was great.
00:48:17
Speaker 3: It didn't land in that way.
00:48:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's how it was supposed to land.
00:48:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't land that way. It didn't land that way.
00:48:21
Speaker 4: And they even had, like, the close-up of Robert Pattinson crying, and that was supposed to be, like, the heavy thing, but it was like, that didn't hit neither.
00:48:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: Because it's like, we know he's not crying because the dude died. He's crying because he thinks his show's.
00:48:33
Speaker 1: About to end.
00:48:34
Speaker 4: But in reality, I'm pretty sure this didn't... I thought the show went on after this.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: It did. It did. About four or five episodes.
00:48:41
Speaker 3: It was about five episodes.
00:48:42
Speaker 1: Oh, that's it? Yeah, that was it, though. Oh, then it was a wrap? Okay. Yeah.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: All right, D. Coy Dan gets his sad card at the end. God ask him, is he an actor? We really closed the show out with that.
00:48:53
Speaker 1: That's wild. That is super wild.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: That's wild. What did we just watch? As big as a cultural impact as this show was, to y'all's point.
00:49:00
Speaker 2: We closed it with Decoy Dan getting his sad card.
00:49:04
Speaker 5: As if anybody gives a shit. And even the neighbor was being mad weird.
00:49:07
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I got some more of your stuff.
00:49:09
Speaker 4: Hold on.
00:49:09
Speaker 7: Oh, I thought it was about to be another situation where somebody had a dick out. When he said, I got something else for you, he said, I got a package for you.
00:49:17
Speaker 5: I heard about you.
00:49:18
Speaker 1: Right. I'm like, oh. I heard about you. Right.
00:49:22
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, wait.
00:49:23
Speaker 1: It's too big to take you.
00:49:24
Speaker 3: I really thought that.
00:49:25
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. What just happened?
00:49:26
Speaker 3: Because it was like a moment where they like lingered on it.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: Motherfucker bust back in the door.
00:49:31
Speaker 3: Right.
00:49:33
Speaker 1: Bold title.
00:49:34
Speaker 3: That'd be great. And it just went off. It just went off like that.
00:49:39
Speaker 1: All right, man.
00:49:40
Speaker 3: That's our review. Decoy Dan is actually a news anchor in New York now.
00:49:44
Speaker 1: Oh, good for him. Good for him.
00:49:45
Speaker 3: He's still not an actor.
00:49:47
Speaker 1: That's great. Keep working at it, Dan.
00:49:49
Speaker 5: You'll get there one day.
00:49:50
Speaker 6: The actor that I was saying that could be... Looked like a child was Martin Short.
00:49:55
Speaker 1: Y'all remember Martin Short? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin Short.
00:49:58
Speaker 5: Martin Short came like no damn child.
00:49:59
Speaker 1: Yes, he did. Back in the day?
00:50:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: Not now.
00:50:02
Speaker 5: I remember that back in the day.
00:50:04
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:50:04
Speaker 7: That movie Clifford. He actually was playing as a little boy, I think. But he still looked like an old man.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.
00:50:10
Speaker 1: Martin Short and Clifford was probably 52.
00:50:13
Speaker 6: I know he was 52, but he didn't look 52.
00:50:15
Speaker 5: He looked 42 then. He didn't look 12.
00:50:18
Speaker 3: He looked younger than what he was.
00:50:20
Speaker 1: You can young him up.
00:50:21
Speaker 3: He looked younger than what he was.
00:50:23
Speaker 1: With a graffiti on him.
00:50:24
Speaker 3: With a Rugrats shirt on him. Yeah, Martin Short was, yeah, yeah. He looked like a kid.
00:50:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, real quick, one question for y'all real fast.
00:50:32
Speaker 4: Do y'all think, because I saw people really mad about this movie that said that this movie did too good of a job protecting pedos and humanizing pedos, which I didn't take that because a lot of people thought that the movie made it seem like Chris Hansen and them were bad guys.
00:50:49
Speaker 5: And the pedos were good guys.
00:50:50
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wouldn't say that.
00:50:51
Speaker 5: If you think that, then maybe something's going on with you. I'm trying to find out who I'm in the room with.
00:50:57
Speaker 3: But that's interesting.
00:50:57
Speaker 2: I do think they were a little sympathetic. But I don't think that far to what you're saying. I wouldn't say, oh, that's a critique of it. But I did find myself during the movement like, They kind of.
00:51:07
Speaker 3: They are humanizers.
00:51:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of was.
00:51:09
Speaker 4: Because they are human though, but I think that's actually a good.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: Thing to do.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: I agree.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. They were still fucked up. I agree. Yeah, but they were still fucked up. Right.
00:51:17
Speaker 5: I don't think the movie ever painted it like, oh, yeah, I didn't think that.
00:51:20
Speaker 3: Because they did that with the priest guy. What was he? I think he was like... Yeah, it was a guy. He was like, I'm a priest. And he was like, I got a family. And he went crazy.
00:51:28
Speaker 1: I damn near went crazy.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: He was the one that was just like, what? He was the one that put his hands on him. I don't remember that.
00:51:34
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: He was the older guy.
00:51:36
Speaker 1: Older white guy.
00:51:37
Speaker 3: Like he brought a bottle or something. What was in the bottle? It was like alcohol or something. It was like some liquor or something.
00:51:43
Speaker 5: You shouldn't be doing this.
00:51:45
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like he was the wrong one.
00:51:46
Speaker 1: Like he was chastising him.
00:51:48
Speaker 3: It was towards the end.
00:51:49
Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed that.
00:51:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did that with him.
00:51:52
Speaker 7: I think even the military guys, something trying to make him give empathy for him.
00:51:56
Speaker 3: The disabled guy?
00:51:58
Speaker 1: All of them. But that's kind of what makes the show intriguing. And even that's why Chris Hansen comes out and goes... He asked him, like, why?
00:52:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, why are you doing this?
00:52:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, kind of, why are you doing this? Or whatever the question is that he asked him. And that's to kind of, that's supposed to show that, or even the guy on the airplane, which I actually thought was a good scene. The guy on the.
00:52:19
Speaker 6: Airplane was like, man, what y'all should do is.
00:52:22
Speaker 1: Y'all should kill him. Yeah, and Chris Hansen was kind of like, I think what I'm doing is worse. Yeah, like, that's kind of the balance that they're trying to teeter from. That's what the show is trying to do, too.
00:52:34
Speaker 5: Trying to show that pedos can be regular looking ass people. They don't look like pedos. That's kind of the point.
00:52:39
Speaker 3: It ain't always a sick serial killer moment.
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
00:52:42
Speaker 4: Like this guy that just looks creepy and he's like, oh, come here, little boy. No, that's a regular looking ass dude.
00:52:47
Speaker 1: With regular jobs and families and all of this shit.
00:52:49
Speaker 5: I mean, Trump looks fairly normal.
00:52:51
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:52:53
Speaker 5: Jared from Subway looked fairly normal.
00:52:55
Speaker 3: Did y'all see Subway?
00:52:56
Speaker 1: He was in there, yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker 3: That was funny.
00:52:59
Speaker 1: That was foul. I caught that. I caught that. I didn't catch it. They don't look crazy and creepy otherwise they would never be able to get Yeah.
00:53:15
Speaker 7: I think the people that have that critique are probably looking at the way they're portraying Chris Hansen in here as this dark guy he's a cheater and They have all these different red and blue colors on them.
00:53:30
Speaker 1: He's yelling at the staff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they portrayed him in that way. The documentary raises good questions, though, that make you kind of look at it like, should they get help or should you be more on the side of the guy on the airplane? Yes. Like, you know what I'm saying? It raises... That's a good question to have. Thank you. Yeah.
00:53:46
Speaker 4: It's like, do you help these people because they're sick or fuck them, put them in jail forever and or kill them?
00:53:52
Speaker 1: Right.
00:53:52
Speaker 4: That's more important. Like, I think the documentary... If y'all hated this movie, please go watch the documentary.
00:53:57
Speaker 3: Where's the doc stream?
00:53:58
Speaker 1: Hulu?
00:53:58
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
00:53:59
Speaker 1: Oh, no, Paramount Plus.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: It's one of those.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: It's Paramount Plus.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Well, y'all go check the doc out, man. That's been our review of the show, or excuse me, the movie Primetime. If you choose to go check it out. We thank you for checking out the review.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: We out. Peace.
Speaker 1: The Frames Per Second Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frames Per Second Podcast where we are reviewing the latest A24 film, Primetime, which is a reenactment or a review of the Dateline TV show series.
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Speaker 3: I am not alone. I have everybody.
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Speaker 2: Here with me that you usually hear.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike.
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Speaker 1: Yo.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Rob.
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Speaker 1: What up, man?
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Ken. Hola. And special guest, A.B. How you feeling, my brother?
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Speaker 1: Feeling good. Feeling great, man. Appreciate the invite.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: You want to say A.B.
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Speaker 3: In a place to be?
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Speaker 1: Happy to keep that in touch. From what, Spike? Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: A.B.
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Speaker 2: From the On Tech TV show. Make sure y'all go check us out every Wednesday. Hip-hop perspectives from a southern point of view every week for the last, what.
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Speaker 3: 15 years?
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Speaker 1: A long time. 15 years? Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: God damn.
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Speaker 3: Give or take. Give or take. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: So without further ado, man, I think we all were interested in this film when we did the preview on the trailer reactions.
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Speaker 3: A.B., I'll start with you since you are a guest today.
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Speaker 2: How were you feeling about primetime going into it and what did you think about it coming out?
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Speaker 1: I was hyped for it. I watched To Catch a Predator back in the day like a lot of people. But walking out, I definitely was let down. I thought it was slightly above average. Some things just took me out of it. I thought it was a little over-dramatized. It was ambitious in the way they did it, but I thought it missed the mark. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Mike, what did you think? Dreadful.
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Speaker 1: Dreadful. Dreadful.
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Speaker 3: Woo! Great acting.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely horrific writing.
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Speaker 3: Think i kind of understand that uh rod what'd you think.
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Speaker 6: Slightly above average that's that's that's that's a new one um not quite where mike is but somewhere in that area um i wasn't i didn't.
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Speaker 3: Watch uh catch a predator back in the day i.
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Speaker 6: Might have seen maybe a clip or something here and there but that's not something that was on my tv um so that part that interest wasn't ever there when I saw the previews. I liked the acting from the previews and stuff. I was like, okay, that seemed like it could be interesting, but yeah, yeah, I agree. The acting was done well, but I don't.
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Speaker 1: Know, man.
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Speaker 3: It just didn't, it's just something was off about it for me.
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Speaker 6: Like, it just didn't feel like a cohesive type of movie.
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. It just, yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It had moments though, but yeah, it's just, I don't know. Ken, what'd you think?
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Speaker 7: Um, This morning, I thought I was going to have to wear my childlike palette shirt because I was like, nah, y'all can keep this shit, bro. And I thought I was going to be the only one that didn't like it. So I'm surprised. Because it was artsy and all kind of weird and shit like that.
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Speaker 3: So you say you think Mike would have liked it?
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Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying I think it would have been elevated above what it actually is.
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Speaker 3: But I never watched the show, so I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, well, maybe I didn't.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't either?
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Speaker 1: Am I the only one that.
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Speaker 3: Watched the show?
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Speaker 1: No, I watched it.
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Speaker 3: I watched it. I've never seen it. That shit was much CTV.
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Speaker 1: It was, bro. Really?
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Speaker 3: So that's how it went for real?
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Speaker 1: No, not on the movie. Oh, in real life?
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Speaker 5: Yes, you were at home like, who are they going to get today?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So it was like cheaters almost.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes. He spent more time with them, though, when they would get kind of caught up. He'd probe and ask questions and stuff. He'd spend more time, but they didn't capture him. The essence of the show at all. Really?
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Speaker 3: Exactly. I was wondering that. That goes to my review on it.
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Speaker 1: It was cool.
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Speaker 2: The acting was good, as some of y'all said, but it just wasn't about the show enough. I don't give a fuck about the dude that's acting as the.
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Speaker 3: The kid? Yeah, I don't care about him.
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Speaker 1: That was the most intriguing part. I don't care. That took me out of it.
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Speaker 2: I could give two fucks about dude. I could give two fucks about the cheating. None of that mattered to me. I don't care about dude, bro. I don't care about him trying to make it as an actor doing date money.
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Speaker 5: Oh, you're talking about that dude. Are you talking about Chris Hansen?
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Speaker 1: No, I ain't talking about Chris Hansen. The child actor.
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Speaker 3: Oh, because I was like, he's on your shirt. I'm confused. I don't care about this man.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about this motherfucker on my shirt. It's my shirt.
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Speaker 3: He just on it.
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Speaker 2: I would have preferred it to be more about the show or even diving more into Chris Hansen. I just feel like it was the whole procedure part of it, which I thought I would like, but I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I just.
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Speaker 3: I like to produce a lady. That was pretty cool. But other than that, man, I agree with you. I don't get why they did that.
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Speaker 7: Like, why did they put so much focus on that guy?
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Speaker 4: Because he was, a lot of people think that he was basically why the show ended. Ended?
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 5: And I think, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because, I mean, it's not true, but people think that their show ended because of the suicides.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about that one.
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Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about the actor guy. I'm talking about the actor guy.
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Speaker 4: I know, but the actor guy was the one that was connecting everybody to what they were calling the white whale.
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? Daniel Plum.
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Speaker 5: Daniel Plum, who's based on a real guy.
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Speaker 3: So that's the CIA agent thing? He was the district attorney. Not the district attorney, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Who was the white whale?
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He is the district attorney.
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Speaker 3: And you're saying that the white guy is the one.
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Speaker 4: That Because he was the decoy that was luring him in.
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Speaker 1: Got you, got you, got you.
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Speaker 5: And I think they were trying to add, like, here's the heart of the story. It's just he didn't connect.
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Speaker 1: Because, first of all, you look 42.
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Speaker 5: I'm not believing that you're 12.
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Speaker 3: Hi, guys.
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Speaker 1: Hi. The voice was crazy. But that's how he sounded, though.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. It is.
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Speaker 1: That's how he sounded. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I got some cookies.
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Speaker 1: That's how he sounded.
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Speaker 4: But he ain't look like this dude. Like, the real decoy, he looked like he was a child. This guy, I'm like, bro, if you got fooled by him, you deserve to get killed.
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Speaker 3: So he's like Stuart Little.
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Speaker 1: What's the name?
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Speaker 3: And then his name, the little dude.
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Speaker 1: The little mouse?
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Speaker 3: No, no, not Stuart Little. What's the dude? Stuart Smart. What was the guy? He was a tiny guy. He played in some movies.
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Speaker 1: Willow.
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Speaker 3: Not Willow, man.
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Speaker 5: Little tiny guy.
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Speaker 3: He didn't look like a dwarf guy or anything like that. He looked like a.
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Speaker 3: Regular size. Gary Coleman? No, not Gary Coleman.
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Speaker 1: It comes to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look it up. All right, so we get into the movie with a cold open with the ex-Marine.
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Speaker 2: There's a stinging process. We get Hanson coming out doing the famous, what are you doing here? Have a seat type thing. Robert Pattinson actually bought it.
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Speaker 1: You think so?
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Speaker 3: I think he killed it. You think differently since you watched the show?
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Speaker 1: I thought the way he came out on that first scene set the stage for me not to like the movie. Really? I thought he did. It was way overdramatized. It almost felt like this was the audition tape. And then they kept it. You know how you do the audition tape? You're like, yo, this is my take on it. And what the directors and the producers are supposed to take that and then mold it to the actual thing? They were like, no, just keep doing that. And that's how it felt. It was doing way too much, bro. With the dark, like the tint on the... I was just like, bro, what are they doing? It was too flashy. It was too... Stylized. It made it seem fake.
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Speaker 6: Well, you say stylized. That's how TV looked then, though. You talking about like the.
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Speaker 1: It was like the lens flares and the kind of the... Somebody was putting a little too much sauce on top of it.
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Speaker 6: Because I did like the aesthetic of the old TV style. The grainy kind of.
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Speaker 1: I did like that. And then the framing, I think they did like the... Yeah. The traditional style, yeah. That was cool.
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Speaker 6: That part was cool, but I do get you on the extra glare. He was doing the most.
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Speaker 1: I'm so with A.B.
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Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
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Speaker 5: A hundred. A hundred percent.
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Speaker 4: I hate to side with a Jay-Z fan like this.
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Speaker 3: He's got the shirt on and everything, bro.
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Speaker 1: A.B.
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Speaker 5: Is saying everything I'm thinking. Everything I'm thinking.
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Speaker 2: Tell me more, because that's really what had me in the movie was him acting like us.
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Speaker 1: Did you say you watched the show or not?
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Speaker 3: Every night. I wasn't... You stay a poser.
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Speaker 1: You stay a poser. It's just for the show.
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Speaker 7: I could care less.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely just for the show. If you watch the show, you won't like that shit.
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Speaker 3: I'm not representing at all. I want y'all to know this.
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Speaker 7: I thought the acting was good.
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Speaker 1: It was good.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting.
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Speaker 1: So you said it's good, it just wasn't Chris Hansen. Yes.
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Speaker 5: The acting was great. It just was not Chris Hansen.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point.
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Speaker 4: It did not feel like, it almost sounded like him at times, but it sounded like AI trying to pretend to be Chris Hansen. It felt robotic as hell. When you watch Chris Hansen, he's definitely tight assed. But it didn't feel like that.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 4: It felt like somebody trying to do an SNL skit pretending to be Trish Hansen.
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Speaker 1: Bingo. It was an impression. Yes. Somebody doing an impression.
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Speaker 3: Interesting. And not like Ray.
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Speaker 1: Say again?
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Speaker 3: Not like Ray.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 5: Jamie Foxx became Ray.
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Speaker 1: 100%. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Got it.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 5: But Chris, I mean, Robert Pattinson is still one of the best of our generation. He's a great actor.
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Speaker 3: Chris Hansen.
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Speaker 5: Of this generation, I mean.
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Speaker 4: Huh?
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Speaker 1: He hates it. I don't blame him. I'm with him on that. I would hate it if I was him, too.
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Speaker 3: Who does Chris Hansen hate? He hates everything. He walked out of the... Premiere? No, he walked out before they even showed it to him because of the story.
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Speaker 1: He was involved?
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Speaker 3: He was at first.
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Speaker 5: He wasn't involved.
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Speaker 1: At first, he was.
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Speaker 4: He gave an interview that I watched last night where he said that they didn't even talk to him.
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Speaker 2: I read something where he said he went to A24 and they pitched it to him and he walked out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Like, he wasn't involved. Sorry, I guess semantics.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: He wasn't involved in the creation of the film.
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Speaker 1: Got it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because he didn't like the way that it was going.
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Speaker 2: He thought that it should be about what the purpose of the show was more so than the dramatizing of that last thing that happened.
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Speaker 5: And he said 90% of the shit didn't actually happen.
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Speaker 1: Right. And you can tell.
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Speaker 5: And you can definitely tell.
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Speaker 1: You can tell. I was going to ask y'all.
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Speaker 5: The producer didn't even exist.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that lady.
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Speaker 5: They just made her up.
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Speaker 3: They made her up.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, what are y'all doing?
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Speaker 3: Why are y'all doing this?
00:10:08
Speaker 1: Just put an extra storyline in there.
00:10:10
Speaker 5: It's like, for what?
00:10:11
Speaker 1: But I understand some based on a true story movies do that. Like, you understand they're going to take some liberties.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it says inspired by. At the end, it does say inspired by.
00:10:19
Speaker 1: But you can tell with this, though. I'm like, yo, that absolutely did not. I wasn't even there. That didn't happen. I could tell.
00:10:26
Speaker 2: The Lost thing was that that didn't happen. The Lost thing didn't happen?
00:10:29
Speaker 4: Nope.
00:10:29
Speaker 1: It only went up against Lost twice. And the whole.
00:10:32
Speaker 2: Time that it showed. All the other times it was showing differently. So comparing it to Lost.
00:10:38
Speaker 1: I just made that up.
00:10:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like you say, sometimes they do it in the dramatization, sometimes they don't.
00:10:43
Speaker 3: Well, did it ever come out primetime?
00:10:46
Speaker 1: It was. It was?
00:10:47
Speaker 4: It was, but he also said it had nothing to do with that.
00:10:51
Speaker 5: Other reporter guy.
00:10:52
Speaker 1: I forget his name. Stone Phillips.
00:10:54
Speaker 5: Stone Phillips. He said he had nothing to do with him.
00:10:56
Speaker 3: But it wasn't always primetime, right?
00:10:58
Speaker 1: No. So it became.
00:10:59
Speaker 3: So was that dude primetime before him or something?
00:11:02
Speaker 4: No.
00:11:02
Speaker 5: I don't even know who the hell that dude was.
00:11:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stone Phillips was like the face of.
00:11:06
Speaker 2: It says the first version of the segment was branded Dangerous Web with Stone Phillips. That's one of the reasons the film invents a Hanson-Phillips rivalry. So the first version of the show was supposed to be with Stone Phillips.
00:11:18
Speaker 5: See what it said? It invented a rivalry.
00:11:22
Speaker 4: It's like, why are y'all... When the show itself was groundbreaking enough and the story around the show is... detailed and crazy enough why do you need to make stuff up you don't like that doc that predators.
00:11:33
Speaker 5: Documentary i don't know if you saw.
00:11:34
Speaker 1: That that was better than that was way better than this what's that it's.
00:11:38
Speaker 4: A documentary about the creation of the show and all the effed up things that happened while the show was going yeah that was better than.
00:11:45
Speaker 1: This 100 that that captured the essence of the show yes way better than this movie did it came out last year too it's always it's fresh.
00:11:52
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking that this movie would be more of, and that's what I want this conversation to be more than a chronological going over.
00:11:57
Speaker 3: I'll, of course, point out things that happened.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: But I thought this would be more of a breakdown of the show, which is why I was disappointed by it. Because I was familiar, didn't watch it every week like y'all are saying, but I did want to know more about the show. So y'all saying the doc is the way you find me.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
00:12:12
Speaker 2: Because this was, I immediately got taken out when they went to, again, the decoy dude. Because I was like this thing, I don't care. It's not a part of the story to me.
00:12:21
Speaker 4: And you know the guy that made this movie is a documentary filmmaker. That's what makes this even weirder. The guy that made this movie is a documentary filmmaker, so he should know the importance of telling a story and being actually accurate. He clearly doesn't know how to write a fictional story, because this is bad.
00:12:38
Speaker 1: This had to be his first or second. It's got to be early in his filmography. It's got to be.
00:12:44
Speaker 2: With that being said, we see the first scene. He comes out. We do the whole thing. Y'all said y'all didn't like it. It was too overactive. What about when they were working with the perverted justice team and they were telling you how they reel people in, how the whole process worked, that worked for you, Kent, not being a viewer of the show?
00:13:00
Speaker 7: Um, I was, I was, I was hoping so, but, uh, You know, I was expecting more details, more information about the process, the procedures, and stuff like that. And I don't really feel like I got any of that.
00:13:15
Speaker 1: It was more about this.
00:13:17
Speaker 7: Dramatized version of who Chris Hansen is perceived to be or actually is. Because I didn't, you know, I know Mike used to talk about it all the time, but I've never even watched it.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: I never even went to YouTube just to even watch a show. Really, you never seen an episode?
00:13:32
Speaker 1: Just to even.
00:13:34
Speaker 3: I've never seen one episode.
00:13:35
Speaker 1: You should, because you would like it.
00:13:37
Speaker 3: Definitely.
00:13:39
Speaker 2: Since you've never seen an episode, what did you think when the dude hopped out with the Walt Jr.
00:13:43
Speaker 1: Stilts? Oh, bruh.
00:13:45
Speaker 3: Because that happened for real.
00:13:46
Speaker 1: That did happen? Yes.
00:13:48
Speaker 3: That was for real. No, I remember that. That did, that did. I remember that.
00:13:51
Speaker 1: There's a ton of, that's light.
00:13:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's light. That's light.
00:13:57
Speaker 1: It's a wild shit happened on that show, bro. Yes.
00:13:59
Speaker 3: I was the only person.
00:14:01
Speaker 7: I mean, it was wild enough with the first guy talking about I brought a gift and he had some whipped cream or some shit.
00:14:05
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, that happened too. That happened?
00:14:07
Speaker 3: Yes, that's for real.
00:14:07
Speaker 5: I don't think the guy actually put it on his stuff.
00:14:09
Speaker 3: No, he did, but he had it with him.
00:14:10
Speaker 1: But he had it with him. Yeah.
00:14:12
Speaker 4: And there were multiple times where they would find stuff in their trunk, like, you know, Chains, handcuffs, knives.
00:14:20
Speaker 3: Oh, they missed the boat, bro. Yeah, they should have went more into that.
00:14:23
Speaker 2: Because even being a lackadaisical view of the show, I knew it was some crazy shit that happened.
00:14:29
Speaker 1: People would have got ass naked, bro. Yeah. Dudes have got ass naked.
00:14:32
Speaker 7: Why did they leave that part out? That was like the craziest episode. The decoy would walk out and they'd walk back in. Dude was butt ass naked.
00:14:38
Speaker 5: And Chris Hansen was like, what are you doing?
00:14:40
Speaker 1: Here's a towel. Here's a towel. What are you doing?
00:14:43
Speaker 5: Dude was completely naked.
00:14:45
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:14:46
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be hilarious, but it was hilarious.
00:14:49
Speaker 1: See, that's what makes the show so intriguing. Because it's disturbing, but then there's so many moments that are funny as fuck. Like, Chris Hansen's one-liners when he comes out. They didn't really do that good in the movie.
00:14:59
Speaker 3: They didn't.
00:15:00
Speaker 1: He is hilarious when he comes out.
00:15:02
Speaker 3: They saw the whole cookies thing.
00:15:03
Speaker 7: The cookies thing, they kind of barely grazed over, but that was a thing.
00:15:07
Speaker 3: That was a funny moment.
00:15:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:15:08
Speaker 3: Like, the cookies thing happened every.
00:15:10
Speaker 1: Cookies.
00:15:11
Speaker 5: I'm baking cookies.
00:15:14
Speaker 1: And he'll come out and be like, you want a cookie? No, no. They would be eating the cookies. He'd be like, how's the cookie? And they'd be like, oh, shit. Is it chewy?
00:15:23
Speaker 5: Is it good?
00:15:24
Speaker 3: Is it crunchy? And their faces, when he came out and said that, would be priceless.
00:15:29
Speaker 1: Everything.
00:15:30
Speaker 7: They didn't capture that. That was a part of the show, and they just missed it.
00:15:33
Speaker 3: Was that the Hispanic dude? The military guy? That had the cookies?
00:15:36
Speaker 1: But that was a staple in the show, though. That was a regular.
00:15:39
Speaker 3: The cookies man? Yeah, the cookie thing was a regular.
00:15:41
Speaker 5: And they glossed over my man Moss, man. They showed him at the very beginning.
00:15:44
Speaker 3: Oh, that's when we talk with somebody?
00:15:46
Speaker 1: Bruh.
00:15:47
Speaker 4: That was the funniest joke of that show, because they didn't even really talk about this, but when the people would walk outside, the cops were always there. But they had this overzealous dude that would be dressed in like.
00:16:01
Speaker 4: But he looks like a bush. He'd be hiding in the bushes. And he would jump out and tackle him. And they'd be like, bro, that's not necessary.
00:16:08
Speaker 1: They're not running.
00:16:09
Speaker 3: They ain't going nowhere. They're not going anywhere.
00:16:12
Speaker 5: You see him walk out and just be like, okay, I guess I'm arrested.
00:16:15
Speaker 7: But a lost man jumped out. That was the one guy because he body slammed it up. They glossed over it. They should have put more emphasis on that because, yeah, they glossed over that one.
00:16:25
Speaker 5: They left out the best parts of this F-Dub show.
00:16:28
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
00:16:29
Speaker 2: What did you think about seeing how the machine worked as far as the perverted justice, luring them in, chat rooms?
00:16:35
Speaker 3: Was that appealing at all?
00:16:37
Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't like watching stuff like that. I would have never watched a show like this.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: I just... I don't know.
00:16:45
Speaker 3: That's just not my bag at all. I just don't get entertainment from this. I didn't watch Cheaters.
00:16:51
Speaker 6: I saw a couple episodes of that. I think the only thing I watch close to something like this is probably Cops.
00:16:57
Speaker 3: I watch Cops.
00:16:57
Speaker 1: Of course you would watch Cops.
00:17:00
Speaker 3: Cops was funny, bro. Cheaters was funny.
00:17:02
Speaker 5: He was just waiting for his future to lie.
00:17:04
Speaker 1: Cops was funny.
00:17:05
Speaker 5: I can't wait to be one of these guys.
00:17:06
Speaker 3: Cops was funny. I'm just saying that's probably the only thing I watch that's.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: Close to it.
00:17:10
Speaker 3: I can't believe you watch Cheaters.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Cheaters either.
00:17:13
Speaker 3: Y'all didn't like none of the good shit. I've only seen a couple of episodes probably because a girlfriend was watching it.
00:17:18
Speaker 5: When he got stabbed on the boat.
00:17:19
Speaker 1: That shit is hilarious.
00:17:20
Speaker 3: Y'all seen when he got stabbed? Oh my God.
00:17:24
Speaker 1: What?
00:17:24
Speaker 3: On a boat. Was he on a boat?
00:17:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on a boat. The host got stabbed, bro. That shit was hilarious, bro. That was must-see TV, man.
00:17:32
Speaker 3: That was must-see TV.
00:17:34
Speaker 6: But the one question I did have when I was watching, I'm like, yo, how... kind of like what one of the guys said at the end, like, how do they get away with this? Like, I don't understand how do you, how can you air something like this?
00:17:46
Speaker 1: Because it's considered news. I wondered that too. It's considered news? Yeah, it's considered news, so they don't have to get, like, the people to sign off.
00:17:55
Speaker 3: Right, that's what I'm saying.
00:17:56
Speaker 2: The waiver, yeah, like usually. But shoot, even on the news you have to get a waiver signed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to.
00:18:01
Speaker 1: Get a waiver. They touched on it briefly in the documentary. They talked about how it's, it kind of falls under the guise of news and so they didn't have to.
00:18:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was wondering that. So that was something I would.
00:18:10
Speaker 3: Have wanted them to explain if they didn't. Oh, my bad.
00:18:13
Speaker 1: No, no, that's it.
00:18:13
Speaker 3: That's all I was going to say.
00:18:14
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I don't think on the news you do have to get waivers because they show criminals' faces all the time, and I'm sure they're not signing waivers.
00:18:20
Speaker 3: Their rights are probably removed.
00:18:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that might be.
00:18:23
Speaker 1: That might be why, yeah.
00:18:24
Speaker 4: The majority of the early captures or whatever, they didn't get prosecuted.
00:18:30
Speaker 1: Interesting.
00:18:31
Speaker 3: What?
00:18:31
Speaker 1: Because the show ended up.
00:18:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's saying. The little known facts.
00:18:35
Speaker 2: The DA refused to prosecute most of the people that they arrested when they did their Texas thing.
00:18:41
Speaker 1: No, all of them. All the Texas ones. None of those got prosecuted. When the dude killed himself, all of them got prosecuted. That's wild. Yeah.
00:18:48
Speaker 5: But it was the show's fault. I mean, yeah, I get you.
00:18:51
Speaker 1: It's Texas. But the show fucked up. But it's also the show. Dang, that's wild.
00:18:54
Speaker 6: And I guess that's kind of what I'm saying. How do you get away with this?
00:18:59
Speaker 3: It has to be something that you can't... I mean, show faces for one. You can.
00:19:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can.
00:19:05
Speaker 5: I think if you're criminals, you can because it happens all the time on the news.
00:19:08
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting, though, because it.
00:19:11
Speaker 2: Can probably, but then when it makes it to court, they probably won't get prosecuted. So it's defeating the whole purpose of outing them.
00:19:16
Speaker 4: Well, the later ones got prosecuted. So I don't think it was an issue with showing their.
00:19:20
Speaker 3: Face on TV.
00:19:20
Speaker 1: If they working with police, maybe. Already. I don't know. I don't know.
00:19:24
Speaker 3: Because at first they weren't working with police, I thought.
00:19:26
Speaker 1: No, they weren't. The first season or two, people didn't, there were no police outside.
00:19:30
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:19:30
Speaker 1: They would just walk and get in the car and do it. Okay.
00:19:33
Speaker 7: So it basically was a, uh, A private investigation by a news organization that had no legal founding.
00:19:40
Speaker 4: And then the cops became involved and they made it. That makes sense, actually.
00:19:44
Speaker 2: But then once the people get a lawyer, the lawyer probably could argue that this was maybe entrapment.
00:19:50
Speaker 3: Or some shit like that.
00:19:51
Speaker 4: I don't think, I don't know that entrapment works with pedophilia. I think you can, like, because this happens all the time.
00:19:57
Speaker 5: Like, cops set up sting traps all the time.
00:19:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, police do this.
00:19:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't think, I think y'all are hitting it on the head.
00:20:02
Speaker 4: I think once the police got involved, that legitimized the operation and that led to them getting prosecuted.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about Chris Hansen at home when they were talking about the cheating, his wife, how she felt about him, the kids.
00:20:16
Speaker 3: Did anybody care about this?
00:20:18
Speaker 6: I have one fact real quick, though, about the face thing. Freedom of the press protects the right of news outlets to document public activities, protests, and street scenes without needing sign release forms. So it is kind of like what you were saying because under the news thing, they're able.
00:20:34
Speaker 1: To do it. So I just wanted to say that. Okay. I ain't gonna lie, his wife being on affairs threw me off. It threw me completely off. I was in Scary Movie. I immediately thought of Scary Movie, and it took me, it looked like a spoof.
00:20:45
Speaker 3: Because I don't even remember where she was in outside of that.
00:20:49
Speaker 1: I don't mean either.
00:20:49
Speaker 3: So it's just like, that's what I thought. That's where my mind went.
00:20:52
Speaker 7: Immediately this is like a silly white white girl from scare movie yeah yeah she's super silly and it's like what but we didn't did we even see her yeah i mean she put her feet on his toes licking her feet.
00:21:05
Speaker 4: Oh maybe she's trying to break out of the comedian thing and try to be like.
00:21:08
Speaker 7: This ain't it that was his wife or that was his wife i thought that was the person he was cheating with no that's.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: Not remembering he went home to his kids and yeah Like, look at my show. I got him out of bed. He was mad about that.
00:21:19
Speaker 5: Chris Hansen was pissed about that because they made all that up.
00:21:22
Speaker 1: Oh, wow. None of that about his family. He said, I would never do that. Oh, my God. What just happened?
00:21:27
Speaker 3: He didn't cheat on his family.
00:21:28
Speaker 1: Oh, no, that happened. That happened later.
00:21:29
Speaker 5: It happened way later.
00:21:30
Speaker 2: It didn't happen during the ratings thing. It happened a lot later once the show was canceled. Oh, but they put it in the middle.
00:21:37
Speaker 5: But it didn't help because no one cared.
00:21:40
Speaker 1: No one cared.
00:21:41
Speaker 3: I didn't care about it. Yeah, exactly. They didn't do a good job of developing that part.
00:21:46
Speaker 1: Agreed. Because you could, because he's seen as like, he's getting, they're shaking his head, he's taking pictures of police. This stand-up dude who's really got another side going on. You could have easily worked that somehow, but it didn't convey at all.
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00:22:37
Speaker 3: That didn't convey.
00:22:38
Speaker 2: Did the meeting with the head of NBC convey about, okay, it's catching on. People love it. You're now about to be competing with Lost. They do the little thing about all the old shows, which I liked.
00:22:49
Speaker 3: I liked that.
00:22:50
Speaker 2: That was kind of nostalgic, seeing all the old shows and remembering that. Did that work for y'all, the meeting, telling him, all right, this is it?
00:22:57
Speaker 7: I mean, it seemed on par with what a news station would do or some media outlet to get the ratings up.
00:23:05
Speaker 1: But that's about it, though.
00:23:07
Speaker 3: I mean, it.
00:23:08
Speaker 5: Was fine as a passing moment. It wasn't anything that I wanted.
00:23:11
Speaker 3: To sit with. Nothing.
00:23:14
Speaker 1: I mean, it was all right. I think the moral dilemma of how far do we take this to get ratings and to make sure people watch it versus how does the system work? Are you supposed to go about it this way? That kind of dilemma is a good basis to build upon. So that helped with that. Again, I don't think they landed it. They didn't stick it, though. But that's a good dilemma, in my opinion. It's something they could have built off of.
00:23:41
Speaker 3: I just like hearing him say, yeah, you got to go against loss. I was like, oh, shit.
00:23:45
Speaker 1: They don't want that loss. They don't want that. I was going to ask you all this.
00:23:49
Speaker 3: You went outside when that loss was outside.
00:23:51
Speaker 5: I didn't know that didn't happen.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
00:23:53
Speaker 5: I didn't know that was fake.
00:23:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fake. That was my shit, too.
00:23:55
Speaker 2: Me and loss were crazy. When loss came on, was it Thursdays? When loss came on?
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was Monday.
00:24:03
Speaker 3: Of the TV every week.
00:24:04
Speaker 1: That was another one I didn't watch. Really?
00:24:07
Speaker 5: That's what we have now, right?
00:24:10
Speaker 1: That's the first show that really talked Easter eggs. Yeah, that was the one. That's the first one.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: That's the one.
00:24:18
Speaker 5: Damn, that's a good point.
00:24:19
Speaker 3: They were like, you won't lie. Like, what's going to happen?
00:24:22
Speaker 1: Theories. Yeah, reaction videos. None of that existed before Lost.
00:24:26
Speaker 4: I guess there was Twin Peaks, but I think Twin Peaks was a much lesser extent than Lost.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
00:24:32
Speaker 5: I think Lost was the show.
00:24:33
Speaker 1: Mainstream. Damn, that's a good point.
00:24:35
Speaker 5: I've never heard people say that.
00:24:36
Speaker 1: No. No.
00:24:37
Speaker 3: It definitely is.
00:24:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:24:39
Speaker 3: What y'all think about that weird-ass vending machine moment? I hated this. What was that?
00:24:43
Speaker 1: Why is this in here? This made it feel more.
00:24:45
Speaker 7: Let's go to y'all point about the school shit.
00:24:47
Speaker 2: When he was at the vending machine, the shit got stuck there. He called the vending machine company.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That was early on, yeah. Like, what was it? Are we supposed to say, like, that he's some type of anal? Yeah, like, about the detail? I don't know.
00:25:00
Speaker 3: I don't care.
00:25:01
Speaker 7: Like, that didn't hit.
00:25:03
Speaker 5: They were trying to set him up to be, like, a sociopath.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: Right.
00:25:08
Speaker 5: Or was it psychopath or sociopath? I get them mixed up. Sociopath.
00:25:12
Speaker 1: So, like.
00:25:13
Speaker 4: All he cared about was getting what he wanted, so he was going to call them. But this scene didn't hit.
00:25:17
Speaker 1: No, it didn't.
00:25:18
Speaker 7: I was in the theater like, what is that? Why did they add this in here? That's what I was looking at.
00:25:23
Speaker 3: Like, bro, why did they add this? It didn't add anything to anything.
00:25:27
Speaker 1: And this leads to the trailer threw me, even though I was excited to watch it, the trailer did throw me off because you couldn't tell were they trying to paint him as, like, is this about him?
00:25:35
Speaker 3: Or the show?
00:25:36
Speaker 1: Or is it about the show and, like, the darkness of the trailer? It's like, wait, is there another side to Chris Hedges? Like, are they about to expose him? Yeah, like, so that kind of throws to that point.
00:25:45
Speaker 7: That's what I thought they were doing with the, you know, with them cheating. I thought they were going to go there with that. Yeah.
00:25:50
Speaker 1: But they didn't really.
00:25:51
Speaker 4: Whoever made this trailer went to the same school of the dude that makes the M.
00:25:55
Speaker 5: Night Shalaman trailer. Every time I see an M.
00:25:58
Speaker 4: Night Shalaman trailer, I'm like, yo, this movie looks amazing.
00:26:01
Speaker 1: Fire.
00:26:01
Speaker 5: And it's always garbage.
00:26:03
Speaker 4: Yep.
00:26:03
Speaker 3: It's always garbage.
00:26:03
Speaker 1: That's my boy, too, man. I hate that form. You like the new movie you got.
00:26:07
Speaker 3: Which one?
00:26:08
Speaker 1: Oh, The Trap?
00:26:10
Speaker 3: No, no, it's a new movie that he's coming out with.
00:26:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, but that's just me gassing him up, hoping that he finally gets back to his original form. All right. Good luck. All right.
00:26:19
Speaker 3: So the Stone Phillips thing didn't work for anybody.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Nope.
00:26:22
Speaker 3: That was random.
00:26:23
Speaker 5: Mainly because I didn't know who he was.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: I knew who he was because I heard his name. It was random.
00:26:28
Speaker 3: They had to have been in the mission. All that stuff was so early in the movie.
00:26:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why?
00:26:33
Speaker 3: If you're not going to flesh it out. I feel like they left a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor for this movie. Yeah, it's kind of like spliced stuff together.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: It felt like that.
00:26:41
Speaker 5: The ending was kind of crazy.
00:26:42
Speaker 1: Bingo.
00:26:43
Speaker 5: It did feel like that.
00:26:45
Speaker 3: What about the producer? I like the producer lady. I will say that. She was intriguing.
00:26:48
Speaker 6: Even though it was made up, I think it was an intriguing part of the story.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: That probably was the best part for me.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: I always liked that role in different shows, with Morning Room or Newsroom. They showed their producer role. So I liked that. The job offer thing, I thought that was interesting. Did y'all get anything from that? The producer and the whole team?
00:27:08
Speaker 5: Just that I think she's a great actress.
00:27:10
Speaker 1: What else was she in?
00:27:11
Speaker 4: I only know her from Walking Dead. That's the only thing I can think of right now. But I know she's been in other things. Anytime I see her, I'm like, I know I watched something where she was a cop.
00:27:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that.
00:27:21
Speaker 4: But she was in something where she was a police officer.
00:27:24
Speaker 5: And she was amazing.
00:27:25
Speaker 2: I remember that and I can't place it because that's what I was thinking of in the movie. I think we did review it.
00:27:30
Speaker 1: She did a good job. I'm not mad at adding... an imaginary person to, if you're going to use it to walk the audience through, because they did that with Mark Wahlberg in the Boston Marathon bombing. His character didn't exist in real life, but he was the eyes of the audience to follow through. So there was a purpose. This one, again, felt half-baked to where either you're going to commit all the way and we're going to follow it through her eyes or whatever the case may be, or not. But it felt half-baked, but it worked for what it was, though. She was in severance.
00:28:03
Speaker 5: I just saw that, but I don't remember her in Severance.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: I don't remember her either. Godless, I haven't watched Severance.
00:28:09
Speaker 5: I don't remember her being in Severance. Oh, I'm thinking of.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: Wait.
00:28:13
Speaker 3: Severance.
00:28:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't remember her in Severance.
00:28:17
Speaker 3: That's his sister. Sure is. Yeah, that's it.
00:28:20
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:28:21
Speaker 3: I think, yeah.
00:28:21
Speaker 5: Well, I can't figure out what the... Unbelievable? Is that something?
00:28:25
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's it.
00:28:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was where that girl gets charged.
00:28:31
Speaker 4: She accuses somebody of rape. And then she gets charged with lying. She was a cop in that show. Had Toni Collette.
00:28:39
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, she was great in that. I ain't gonna lie, she had one of my best parts in the movie at the end, though. What's that? When the guy shot himself.
00:28:45
Speaker 3: Oh, she said, I can make some of this? Yeah, she said, I can make some of this.
00:28:49
Speaker 1: We can make some of this. Because they aired that episode. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker 3: That's what got them, took off.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what, yeah, that was the controversy. And they sauced it up, too. If you go and watch that episode, it's like, coming up today, things turned deadly. Like, it was real, like... Produce don't want to miss this. Yeah, exactly. It was very produced. That was one of the hardest lines of the movie. I was like, oh, wow.
00:29:11
Speaker 4: Did y'all catch the actor that played the ADA?
00:29:13
Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
00:29:15
Speaker 3: Pocaine Wubba.
00:29:17
Speaker 1: When he in his.
00:29:18
Speaker 5: He was the cowboy cop.
00:29:20
Speaker 1: He was awful.
00:29:22
Speaker 7: He was terrible.
00:29:24
Speaker 3: He played the hell out of that. I thought he was good.
00:29:28
Speaker 5: I thought he was good.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: He was a country ass nigga. I actually like this character. I did too, man. That was a country ass nigga.
00:29:35
Speaker 3: Damn, y'all didn't fuck with that? I liked it, man.
00:29:38
Speaker 1: I like what about it? I'm like, what are you doing?
00:29:40
Speaker 3: That's what he was supposed to do, though.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: That's that small town sheriff. Yeah, that's it.
00:29:46
Speaker 3: That was it.
00:29:46
Speaker 1: They do not sound like that. Come on, Ken. You from Mississippi. I like that. Ken, you from Mississippi.
00:29:51
Speaker 3: I know they don't sound like that. You know that dude right here.
00:29:55
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more clear and it'll draw a little bit longer.
00:29:58
Speaker 3: A couple of them are here. Right.
00:30:00
Speaker 7: Going up to Stone Mountain with that crew.
00:30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that.
00:30:03
Speaker 3: It's like he was trying to sound like a white.
00:30:06
Speaker 1: He was.
00:30:06
Speaker 3: He probably was.
00:30:07
Speaker 5: He probably was cast as a white man, but then he quit when he came up. He was like, I'm not doing this trash-ass movie. Joaquin was like, hey, I'll do it.
00:30:14
Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, Dave Chappelle.
00:30:16
Speaker 5: Dave Chappelle's going to be in the movie.
00:30:17
Speaker 1: We're set. That is wild.
00:30:20
Speaker 3: And this dude showed up like.
00:30:21
Speaker 5: Wait, that's not Dave Chappelle.
00:30:22
Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
00:30:23
Speaker 5: No, the ADA was Bill from Bill and Ted.
00:30:25
Speaker 1: Dang. Really?
00:30:28
Speaker 5: The second I saw him, I was like, what the hell is Bill.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: Doing in this?
00:30:31
Speaker 3: I didn't even know, recognize him.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: What was Bill been doing before this? That's a good point. That's your answer.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: That's a good point. You might be on. That is.
00:30:40
Speaker 1: Wow.
00:30:41
Speaker 7: Hold on.
00:30:41
Speaker 3: Let me look up.
00:30:42
Speaker 5: And I think his name was like Bill in the movie.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. In this movie.
00:30:46
Speaker 2: What about the merch? The thong underwear and the lady not wanting to.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Because that was a real story.
00:30:55
Speaker 5: Oh, it was?
00:30:56
Speaker 3: That was a real story.
00:30:56
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Selling merch?
00:30:58
Speaker 2: The thong underwear where the decoy didn't like that they were selling thong underwear that said the 18 thing and she got mad about it.
00:31:04
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a real thing.
00:31:05
Speaker 7: I didn't know that was a real thing. That was the first one before Decoy Dan came on board.
00:31:11
Speaker 1: Decoy Dan came.
00:31:11
Speaker 3: It happened in real life.
00:31:13
Speaker 1: That's why she quit? No, they said she saw her dad. Yeah. Somebody that looked like her dad.
00:31:18
Speaker 4: Looked like her dad and she was like, I can't do this. That was a good little part.
00:31:22
Speaker 3: But it just happened and then they just told us about it.
00:31:25
Speaker 1: Blew past it. Yeah.
00:31:28
Speaker 2: All right, so we are introduced to Decoy Dan. He wants to be a big-time actor. He has this interesting relationship with his homeboy.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: Is that how you describe it?
00:31:40
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were going for.
00:31:42
Speaker 1: I was going to ask y'all.
00:31:43
Speaker 3: I didn't know either.
00:31:44
Speaker 5: Did y'all know what they were going with that?
00:31:47
Speaker 3: I have no idea. You got coffee in your room. Come on, that dude, right?
00:31:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. The dude that called him when he got there. I don't know what they were doing. They were sitting on the phone talking. They were implying some shit, but they never really did it.
00:31:59
Speaker 3: They never took it home.
00:32:00
Speaker 1: It was a lot of those moments.
00:32:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of teetered right there.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. What is this?
00:32:03
Speaker 6: Even with Chris Hansen and the dude, they had the music and stuff.
00:32:07
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, what are they saying about this situation?
00:32:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:32:10
Speaker 5: They even tried to imply that he was a pedo himself.
00:32:12
Speaker 3: Rob Markman Well, that's what I'm saying. Like different moments like that.
00:32:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker 1: It was weird. Rob Markman I don't know what the hell this movie was trying to do. Rob Markman I ain't gonna lie. The decoy Dan thing was interesting though. Rob Markman What made it interesting? Rob Markman Because I didn't think of it from that. It brought a perspective that I had never thought of being somebody that actually did watch the show. The kid was actually trying to become a serious actor. He's like, I'm gonna come in. I'm gonna be serious. I'm gonna do this. Then the third, like he even sung in the audition. I guess it was funny though. And they were like, yeah, you ain't gotta do all that.
00:32:38
Speaker 3: Rob Markman They did.
00:32:40
Speaker 1: Like, you cool. Mid-bar. They were like, yeah, no, you ain't got to do that.
00:32:43
Speaker 5: Overqualified.
00:32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, just relax. And that's true. He didn't know what he was actually auditioning for. And so when you have somebody that's like, like everybody that moves to L.A., I'm trying to be Tom Cruise, and really you're getting put on some, you know, D-level... Like, oh, damn. I never thought about that perspective. That was interesting to me. I'm not going to lie. 5,000 episodes.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: He's like, 5,000?
00:33:07
Speaker 1: For a few lines. For just a few lines. For a few lines. That ain't bad at all. You ain't doing shit. Hell yeah. Now.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: It's up half of it to be going to gas.
00:33:17
Speaker 1: All I got to do is pretend I'm a little kid. Come sit in the kitchen.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: All I got to do is say, I'm A.B. with a place of B.
00:33:23
Speaker 7: Of course I'll take five grand.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: Offer some cookies.
00:33:28
Speaker 4: All right.
00:33:30
Speaker 1: But nah, man.
00:33:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, dang.
00:33:32
Speaker 2: You like that role, Ron? The whole storyline about the D-Corp?
00:33:37
Speaker 6: Nah, I feel like it was better things to spend time on. I'm not saying that that wasn't something that we could have spent time on.
00:33:45
Speaker 3: I just felt like we should have spent time in other places.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Not if you say that. I'm with you because you're right. That is kind of interesting when you explain it from that perspective. But I just didn't care that we were there for so long and it was such a focal point. I wanted to know more about the show.
00:33:59
Speaker 4: Mike him looking like somebody's uncle just took man if they got another actor that actually could have looked like a kid Like I think even that dude from Resident Evil looks more like a kid Than this guy like this guy does not look like a child who remind.
00:34:11
Speaker 3: Me the actor from the bear The lead from the bear Jeremy, whatever. Yeah, that's who you Really?
00:34:17
Speaker 1: Jeremy White?
00:34:18
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
00:34:19
Speaker 1: I don't know why either.
00:34:20
Speaker 4: They just both white I guess But there has to be some other little white boy actor that they could have found that looks more like a kid.
00:34:27
Speaker 3: They could have just got one of the Stranger Things kid thing.
00:34:30
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:34:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, they could have got, what's the Wolfhard boy?
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have got him.
00:34:36
Speaker 4: He's got to be at least 1920 by now, right?
00:34:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know how old D. Cordain was during the time that he was supposed to be in that role. Yeah, so they could have easily found one of them. Maybe it was the.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: They couldn't have used Lucas. Nah.
00:34:50
Speaker 7: Right.
00:34:51
Speaker 1: He would have been one of the dudes getting set up. Luke would be like, where your kid at?
00:34:58
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how popular this movie was in Hollywood as far as them being able to cast that.
00:35:01
Speaker 3: Because even in Pattinson, he wasn't going to be in the movie. He was just a producer.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: And then at the last minute, since he was a producer, he decided to take the lead. Well, they decided he should be the leader. So maybe that's it. Oh, like Jay-Z trying to do with the Super Bowl?
00:35:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:35:17
Speaker 3: They could have got Wolfhard.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: He ain't doing nothing else. True.
00:35:20
Speaker 2: So, Decoy Dan's first thing, Crazy Frog 73. He finally figured out what he auditioned for, kid.
00:35:29
Speaker 3: Did this work for you?
00:35:31
Speaker 1: Is this the whip cream guy, bro?
00:35:36
Speaker 3: So, they didn't tell him at all.
00:35:38
Speaker 7: He just showed up, turned around somebody.
00:35:40
Speaker 3: He was so startled.
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Hey, bro.
00:35:43
Speaker 5: I don't know how true that is, though.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: No, he didn't know.
00:35:47
Speaker 3: He didn't know what he was there for?
00:35:48
Speaker 1: No.
00:35:48
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
00:35:49
Speaker 1: No, that's true, bro.
00:35:51
Speaker 3: That's so fucked up, bro.
00:35:52
Speaker 1: How is that possible?
00:35:53
Speaker 5: How is that possible?
00:35:54
Speaker 4: One, and two, why would they intentionally not tell you knowing you could break character and ruin the entire show? So I just don't know how much I believe it.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Or be in danger. Slick.
00:36:03
Speaker 7: Well, maybe he didn't break character because that's a great point. Maybe he didn't break character because he probably thought he was being tested.
00:36:10
Speaker 1: I don't know.
00:36:12
Speaker 7: Or he just kind of, I don't know. He probably made up some shit in his head. But I don't know. If that wasn't me, I would have.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Been like, well, what the?
00:36:18
Speaker 4: I can't imagine hard dick with whipped cream.
00:36:21
Speaker 1: Like, yes, for real.
00:36:23
Speaker 4: I don't think they showed it.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: I don't get this mom for real.
00:36:27
Speaker 5: Why do you want whipped cream on a soft dick? It's got to be hard. I'm done right now.
00:36:32
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, no, no.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: F this.
00:36:35
Speaker 5: Chris Hansen, get your ass.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I'm done. Yo, that was wild.
00:36:41
Speaker 3: That was wild. I got something else for you. He turned the room. He was like, oh.
00:36:46
Speaker 1: Bro, his reaction.
00:36:48
Speaker 7: And then on the edited version, he was looking at himself. He was started on the edited version. That was crazy. That was crazy.
00:36:57
Speaker 3: All right, so they worry about Dan leaving.
00:36:59
Speaker 1: That guy was like, this shit was normal. Go ahead, man. Yeah, man.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: They worry about Dan leaving, and the producer kind of Asks his Hanson to talk to him.
00:37:11
Speaker 3: What y'all think about the whole mentoring of Dan from Hanson?
00:37:16
Speaker 5: This is where he was trying to talk about that monster. Get this shit out of here. What are y'all doing?
00:37:23
Speaker 3: Are y'all serious?
00:37:24
Speaker 5: Like, why? Oh, there's this ancient eagle in India.
00:37:29
Speaker 1: What the hell?
00:37:31
Speaker 5: Bro, you're catching pedos. Just talk about that. Like, that's enough.
00:37:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to add story to it.
00:37:35
Speaker 5: You don't.
00:37:36
Speaker 1: I promise you, it works. It just works.
00:37:38
Speaker 7: Hey, man, these people are trying to sleep with kids, dog, and we locking them up. You ain't got to go to India. It's not a tough sell. Yeah, it ain't a tough sell.
00:37:46
Speaker 5: It's not.
00:37:46
Speaker 3: Like, it's really easy, bro. And then they start singing that song he auditioned.
00:37:50
Speaker 1: Yes. While he was walking to his hotel. I don't remember what the fuck that was. Yeah.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: And Dequa Day was like, man, I just want to get me a car, bro. I don't care nothing about India. I don't really care about.
00:38:05
Speaker 1: None of that, bro.
00:38:07
Speaker 3: Hey, come on.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: All right, next, we have the whole thing that happens in, well, you have this debate on if we're going to go to where we have everything planned out, where the producer wants to go, or if they're going to chase this whale and they're going to go to Texas and run an operation on the fly with there, and it's back and forth. Y'all think Hanson was right? Y'all think the producer was right? Or what about the situation was intriguing?
00:38:33
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Was Hanson for it or against it?
00:38:35
Speaker 3: He wanted to.
00:38:36
Speaker 1: He wanted the white whale, right?
00:38:38
Speaker 2: He wanted the whale if they had more proof.
00:38:40
Speaker 3: He wasn't for it at first.
00:38:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: He was intrigued by it, and it made sense to him. But he wasn't for it until the network was like, hey, dog, we're going to take you out of here.
00:38:52
Speaker 1: You need something big. Okay.
00:38:54
Speaker 3: That's when he was like.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: Let's go for it.
00:38:57
Speaker 3: That's when he was like, let's go for it.
00:38:59
Speaker 1: I mean, it's on brand. You know what I'm saying? It's on brand for the producer to be for it. It's on brand for Chris's motivation.
00:39:04
Speaker 2: But the producer wasn't for it, though. Now, she wanted to go where everything was set up and planned already. We got these people. We got these.
00:39:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We got these houses. Perfect. Already.
00:39:15
Speaker 2: Y'all trying to go over here on the fly just to find this random dude. And then that's when she was like, well, shit, I'll leave. And I like the pitch for that show that you fuck with.
00:39:23
Speaker 1: Oh, What Would You Do? That's my shit. Yeah. That was a real show, too?
00:39:26
Speaker 3: Hell, you ain't never seen that? You ain't never seen What Would You Do?
00:39:29
Speaker 1: Oh, yo. You Do? Oh, y'all.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: With John Quinones?
00:39:31
Speaker 1: What year was this? Around the same time.
00:39:33
Speaker 3: A little bit, about two, three years after I posted it. 2000s?
00:39:37
Speaker 1: Early 2000s. Early 2000s. That was my show.
00:39:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put you in a position where somebody, like she said, somebody yelling at a child in a.
00:39:46
Speaker 1: in a fucking diner. I'm a couple of years older than y'all. I was probably outside doing some shit. That's fair. I don't know. I'm not that, I don't think I'm that much older. I don't think I was watching TV like that.
00:39:56
Speaker 3: I wasn't either.
00:39:56
Speaker 6: That was like my college years. I wasn't doing much TV like that.
00:40:03
Speaker 1: What would you do with like the anti to catch a predator? It's like the opposite. It's kind of trying to show you that. I'd never heard of that show in my life. I thought they made that shit up.
00:40:10
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be heartwarming, but then it turned to like, oh, this dude is yelling racist shit at this other dude. Are you going to step in and say something?
00:40:17
Speaker 5: They do that now on YouTube.
00:40:19
Speaker 3: That's where they got all that shit?
00:40:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:20
Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
00:40:20
Speaker 1: Because that's the Catch a Predator spin-off. Well, not spin-offs, but wannabes.
00:40:25
Speaker 3: Inspired by.
00:40:26
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:40:26
Speaker 5: They talk about that in the documentary.
00:40:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that she said that. The producer was like, oh, yeah, you're basically stealing my show. Yeah, so you want to do my show? You want me to come do it?
00:40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, right. It's basically the anti-that.
00:40:37
Speaker 3: Did y'all like that?
00:40:39
Speaker 1: That was cool. Give me this show.
00:40:40
Speaker 3: I did like the.
00:40:40
Speaker 6: Little inserts of the real shows and stuff like that. I thought that was a nice little touch.
00:40:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:46
Speaker 3: Even though I don't know the shows, I figured that they were real shows.
00:40:49
Speaker 1: They were real. So, yeah. Okay.
00:40:51
Speaker 4: All right.
00:40:57
Speaker 2: Before we wrap up, we'll talk about the ending, the whole climax of it when they go to Texas.
00:41:00
Speaker 3: That's not a better word, J.
00:41:03
Speaker 1: My man Clymer, he's crazy. Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: Bro, this shit was on for 17 seasons?
00:41:07
Speaker 1: What would you do with a dope ass show, bro?
00:41:09
Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:10
Speaker 1: That's one of they biggest shows on ABC.
00:41:13
Speaker 3: What would you do? Rob Markman, Jr.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: Oh, that was 2008. But that's a good show, bro. Because it makes you think, what would you do in the season? Rob Markman, Jr.: No pun intended, but it puts you in the shoes, like, damn, what would I do if this shit happened to me?
00:41:29
Speaker 2: So the whole raid happens there in Texas. The rain was not true. That was added for dramatic effect. The what wasn't true?
00:41:36
Speaker 1: The rain.
00:41:37
Speaker 3: Oh, the rain. It was raining that day when they did that.
00:41:38
Speaker 1: They did it during the daytime, too.
00:41:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was in the daytime, not at night. But they got their white whale. The whole movie kind of hinges on this. And decoy Dan. Wait, before I get there, what did y'all think about him switching characters?
00:41:55
Speaker 1: Switching characters. Decoy Dan.
00:41:56
Speaker 3: Decoy Dan.
00:41:57
Speaker 1: Taking over.
00:41:57
Speaker 3: Did that happen?
00:41:58
Speaker 1: No. I don't remember that happening. It didn't. Okay.
00:42:00
Speaker 3: That was goofy.
00:42:02
Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job, though. To me, that was paid off.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: That looked good.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker 3: It was fine, but I just didn't understand it.
00:42:09
Speaker 1: Because Chris Hansen was somewhere.
00:42:11
Speaker 3: Laying on the floor.
00:42:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:13
Speaker 3: Panic attack or something.
00:42:14
Speaker 1: Where that came from, we don't know. He just laid on the floor. Oh, when he.
00:42:18
Speaker 2: And then when the available dude came and he switched the, excuse me.
00:42:22
Speaker 3: I did like that action.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: I did too.
00:42:23
Speaker 3: He did a good job of it, but it just was like, okay.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is my opportunity to be like a real, to me that paid off his story.
00:42:30
Speaker 3: He switched the roles and the different voice things. That did pay off.
00:42:34
Speaker 7: I thought it was, I was like, you about to get fired.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: But that didn't happen though.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: It did not.
00:42:40
Speaker 3: Nah.
00:42:41
Speaker 7: Because he was going through that stuff with his wife because the pictures came out. That's why he was kind of.
00:42:46
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:42:46
Speaker 2: Well, it was because the dude pulled up and left. They found out that they was there. Because maybe he went out.
00:42:51
Speaker 3: But that was another guy that... That was the DA, right? It's at the same house, though.
00:42:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they were leaking out the address.
00:42:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was like, don't go here because it's video.
00:43:00
Speaker 1: Right.
00:43:00
Speaker 2: And that's when he had the panic attack. And the wife stuff. And that's when the guy, the cripple guy showed up.
00:43:08
Speaker 3: It was before that. The handicapped guy showed up.
00:43:10
Speaker 1: It was before that.
00:43:11
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:43:12
Speaker 1: The cripple guy was earlier.
00:43:14
Speaker 3: It was before that.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: No, this was when we were in Texas now.
00:43:17
Speaker 3: Now we at the end in the rain with a car pulled up and they were waiting.
00:43:20
Speaker 1: And there was nobody in the car. Right.
00:43:22
Speaker 3: And then somebody else showed up. It was the guy on the stilt.
00:43:24
Speaker 1: Or whatever the name was. That was early. All right, I'm going to go with y'all.
00:43:28
Speaker 3: Y'all got it.
00:43:29
Speaker 1: It's three people yelling at me, so.
00:43:32
Speaker 4: Cool.
00:43:33
Speaker 1: That scene was insane. Like the bulletproof vest with the storm. I was like, bro.
00:43:38
Speaker 5: Y'all doing too much.
00:43:39
Speaker 3: Super dramatic.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: Facts. You need 50 cents, bro? I'm like, come on, fam. They did the absolute most.
00:43:47
Speaker 3: That guy was like the car drove itself. What happened? I don't know why they added that.
00:43:52
Speaker 1: I don't get that.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: I missed it. None of that made sense. It was building intensity, of course. Yeah, sure. But it didn't make sense.
00:43:59
Speaker 5: They were trying to make this a horror movie for whatever reason.
00:44:01
Speaker 7: Yeah, because they even shot little shots of him looking at something that looked like a monster.
00:44:06
Speaker 5: That was the monster from India.
00:44:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was in the.
00:44:09
Speaker 1: Oh, that's what that was? Okay.
00:44:10
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be a callback to that. I was like, bro, come on, man. What are we doing?
00:44:14
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at the review. This movie's getting great reviews. That's all that.
00:44:18
Speaker 2: And I don't get it.
00:44:20
Speaker 3: People are saying this is one of the best movies I've seen this year.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
00:44:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:44:26
Speaker 1: I was going to be in the minority here.
00:44:28
Speaker 2: No, this is just not worth it.
00:44:30
Speaker 6: I will say the person that was sitting next to me, they looked like they were really into it.
00:44:34
Speaker 1: People were laughing at certain parts.
00:44:36
Speaker 3: Check their laptop. Check their laptop.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: For real. All right, man. It ends with D.
00:44:44
Speaker 2: Quaid getting his sad card. Or at least y'all had something else about the suicide. So the suicide actually happened.
00:44:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:44:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was for real. That was a show.
00:44:53
Speaker 1: They broke protocol and went to the person's house. Yes. That happened.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: That's why we're making that a big deal.
00:44:58
Speaker 5: And they were the ones who pushed the cops to do it.
00:45:00
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:45:01
Speaker 5: It wasn't like there was some cowboy, negro.
00:45:05
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:45:05
Speaker 5: Let's go get them. It wasn't any of that. No pedo state. No pedo state.
00:45:10
Speaker 1: No pedos allowed in Texas.
00:45:11
Speaker 3: I'm watching this.
00:45:12
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't think this is going to work out. I didn't know it was going to be a suicide, but I'm like, I don't think this is going to work out the way you think. You're tipping your hand here. You're going to let them know you're coming. It's a DA. They can start pulling all kinds of favors to get out of this thing.
00:45:29
Speaker 3: The board just run.
00:45:30
Speaker 6: He noticed it off top on the phone. He was just like, let me go ahead. He started deleting all his stuff.
00:45:36
Speaker 1: That didn't happen either. The kid didn't call him on the phone when he was outside. Nope. The kid wasn't even there. He was at the crib. He wasn't on site.
00:45:43
Speaker 5: But the kid did feel bad about what happened.
00:45:46
Speaker 1: Kid being decoyed.
00:45:48
Speaker 3: Decoyed Dan, my bad.
00:45:49
Speaker 4: Real life decoyed Dan did feel bad about setting this dude up and about him killing himself.
00:45:54
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:45:55
Speaker 4: That was all real. But yeah, I don't know why they added like, oh, he's in the van.
00:45:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:45:59
Speaker 5: And then he does this dramatic walk off in the rain.
00:46:02
Speaker 1: It's like, this is stupid.
00:46:03
Speaker 4: And then you're singing him a song before he dies. Get the hell out of here with this nonsense.
00:46:08
Speaker 7: So were they implying that the DA dude didn't want anything sexual?
00:46:12
Speaker 3: He just wanted to spend time with him or something?
00:46:15
Speaker 4: They were trying to imply that there's a lot of different types of pedos, which is true. Mm-hmm.
00:46:20
Speaker 5: And this dude was actually wrestling with it.
00:46:22
Speaker 4: Because remember he put his laptop in the microwave and he was going to just.
00:46:27
Speaker 5: Blow the whole thing up?
00:46:29
Speaker 1: I don't remember that part.
00:46:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, he put his laptop in the microwave and at the last minute he opened up and took it back out because he was like, no, I got to have my CP. I think that they were just trying to show that there were a lot of different types of people, including ones that were wrestling with being pedos.
00:46:46
Speaker 3: Even the guy in the beginning, he seemed kind of nervous. They were always weird.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: That was on brand.
00:46:53
Speaker 2: It wasn't no stone cold killers you would think. They were weird. It's just like, bro, I got a family. Then I think the military was like, I got kids.
00:47:02
Speaker 1: And one of them said, I got kids.
00:47:04
Speaker 5: And that's the reason you shouldn't be doing that.
00:47:07
Speaker 3: Because he was skeptical about the cookies. He was like, you bake cookies?
00:47:11
Speaker 1: He was just like, wait, what? I did want to know, from people who haven't watched it, do you think they... Do you think they painted like the stakes of that last, the person shooting himself? Was that like, did that land at all? Because that was a big deal when that shit happened.
00:47:28
Speaker 3: I thought all that shit was fake.
00:47:31
Speaker 7: I thought they made all that shit up because at this point they doing all these kind of effects and they got... Chris Hansen making weird faces and stuff when he did a little face, and whatever he was doing.
00:47:43
Speaker 3: I was going to ask y'all where they got their phone and why.
00:47:45
Speaker 1: Nope.
00:47:46
Speaker 7: If it was crazy like that. So by the time we got here, I'm like, y'all just making some stuff up just to make a movie.
00:47:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't know that that really happened.
00:47:55
Speaker 3: Just not like that.
00:47:57
Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
00:47:57
Speaker 3: Just not like that. So, yeah, at this point, I'm done with the movie. I'm ready to go. For me.
00:48:03
Speaker 7: It made it make more sense, because I figured, like, okay, this is probably why the show was canceled, because somebody killed himself or whatever.
00:48:09
Speaker 6: So I was like, okay, I think that landed in the sense of, like, story, right? But landing in the sense.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: Of, like, oh, man, like, oh, my God, that was great.
00:48:17
Speaker 3: It didn't land in that way.
00:48:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's how it was supposed to land.
00:48:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't land that way. It didn't land that way.
00:48:21
Speaker 4: And they even had, like, the close-up of Robert Pattinson crying, and that was supposed to be, like, the heavy thing, but it was like, that didn't hit neither.
00:48:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: Because it's like, we know he's not crying because the dude died. He's crying because he thinks his show's.
00:48:33
Speaker 1: About to end.
00:48:34
Speaker 4: But in reality, I'm pretty sure this didn't... I thought the show went on after this.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: It did. It did. About four or five episodes.
00:48:41
Speaker 3: It was about five episodes.
00:48:42
Speaker 1: Oh, that's it? Yeah, that was it, though. Oh, then it was a wrap? Okay. Yeah.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: All right, D. Coy Dan gets his sad card at the end. God ask him, is he an actor? We really closed the show out with that.
00:48:53
Speaker 1: That's wild. That is super wild.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: That's wild. What did we just watch? As big as a cultural impact as this show was, to y'all's point.
00:49:00
Speaker 2: We closed it with Decoy Dan getting his sad card.
00:49:04
Speaker 5: As if anybody gives a shit. And even the neighbor was being mad weird.
00:49:07
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I got some more of your stuff.
00:49:09
Speaker 4: Hold on.
00:49:09
Speaker 7: Oh, I thought it was about to be another situation where somebody had a dick out. When he said, I got something else for you, he said, I got a package for you.
00:49:17
Speaker 5: I heard about you.
00:49:18
Speaker 1: Right. I'm like, oh. I heard about you. Right.
00:49:22
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, wait.
00:49:23
Speaker 1: It's too big to take you.
00:49:24
Speaker 3: I really thought that.
00:49:25
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. What just happened?
00:49:26
Speaker 3: Because it was like a moment where they like lingered on it.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: Motherfucker bust back in the door.
00:49:31
Speaker 3: Right.
00:49:33
Speaker 1: Bold title.
00:49:34
Speaker 3: That'd be great. And it just went off. It just went off like that.
00:49:39
Speaker 1: All right, man.
00:49:40
Speaker 3: That's our review. Decoy Dan is actually a news anchor in New York now.
00:49:44
Speaker 1: Oh, good for him. Good for him.
00:49:45
Speaker 3: He's still not an actor.
00:49:47
Speaker 1: That's great. Keep working at it, Dan.
00:49:49
Speaker 5: You'll get there one day.
00:49:50
Speaker 6: The actor that I was saying that could be... Looked like a child was Martin Short.
00:49:55
Speaker 1: Y'all remember Martin Short? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin Short.
00:49:58
Speaker 5: Martin Short came like no damn child.
00:49:59
Speaker 1: Yes, he did. Back in the day?
00:50:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: Not now.
00:50:02
Speaker 5: I remember that back in the day.
00:50:04
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:50:04
Speaker 7: That movie Clifford. He actually was playing as a little boy, I think. But he still looked like an old man.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.
00:50:10
Speaker 1: Martin Short and Clifford was probably 52.
00:50:13
Speaker 6: I know he was 52, but he didn't look 52.
00:50:15
Speaker 5: He looked 42 then. He didn't look 12.
00:50:18
Speaker 3: He looked younger than what he was.
00:50:20
Speaker 1: You can young him up.
00:50:21
Speaker 3: He looked younger than what he was.
00:50:23
Speaker 1: With a graffiti on him.
00:50:24
Speaker 3: With a Rugrats shirt on him. Yeah, Martin Short was, yeah, yeah. He looked like a kid.
00:50:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, real quick, one question for y'all real fast.
00:50:32
Speaker 4: Do y'all think, because I saw people really mad about this movie that said that this movie did too good of a job protecting pedos and humanizing pedos, which I didn't take that because a lot of people thought that the movie made it seem like Chris Hansen and them were bad guys.
00:50:49
Speaker 5: And the pedos were good guys.
00:50:50
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wouldn't say that.
00:50:51
Speaker 5: If you think that, then maybe something's going on with you. I'm trying to find out who I'm in the room with.
00:50:57
Speaker 3: But that's interesting.
00:50:57
Speaker 2: I do think they were a little sympathetic. But I don't think that far to what you're saying. I wouldn't say, oh, that's a critique of it. But I did find myself during the movement like, They kind of.
00:51:07
Speaker 3: They are humanizers.
00:51:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of was.
00:51:09
Speaker 4: Because they are human though, but I think that's actually a good.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: Thing to do.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: I agree.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. They were still fucked up. I agree. Yeah, but they were still fucked up. Right.
00:51:17
Speaker 5: I don't think the movie ever painted it like, oh, yeah, I didn't think that.
00:51:20
Speaker 3: Because they did that with the priest guy. What was he? I think he was like... Yeah, it was a guy. He was like, I'm a priest. And he was like, I got a family. And he went crazy.
00:51:28
Speaker 1: I damn near went crazy.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: He was the one that was just like, what? He was the one that put his hands on him. I don't remember that.
00:51:34
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: He was the older guy.
00:51:36
Speaker 1: Older white guy.
00:51:37
Speaker 3: Like he brought a bottle or something. What was in the bottle? It was like alcohol or something. It was like some liquor or something.
00:51:43
Speaker 5: You shouldn't be doing this.
00:51:45
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like he was the wrong one.
00:51:46
Speaker 1: Like he was chastising him.
00:51:48
Speaker 3: It was towards the end.
00:51:49
Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed that.
00:51:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did that with him.
00:51:52
Speaker 7: I think even the military guys, something trying to make him give empathy for him.
00:51:56
Speaker 3: The disabled guy?
00:51:58
Speaker 1: All of them. But that's kind of what makes the show intriguing. And even that's why Chris Hansen comes out and goes... He asked him, like, why?
00:52:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, why are you doing this?
00:52:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, kind of, why are you doing this? Or whatever the question is that he asked him. And that's to kind of, that's supposed to show that, or even the guy on the airplane, which I actually thought was a good scene. The guy on the.
00:52:19
Speaker 6: Airplane was like, man, what y'all should do is.
00:52:22
Speaker 1: Y'all should kill him. Yeah, and Chris Hansen was kind of like, I think what I'm doing is worse. Yeah, like, that's kind of the balance that they're trying to teeter from. That's what the show is trying to do, too.
00:52:34
Speaker 5: Trying to show that pedos can be regular looking ass people. They don't look like pedos. That's kind of the point.
00:52:39
Speaker 3: It ain't always a sick serial killer moment.
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
00:52:42
Speaker 4: Like this guy that just looks creepy and he's like, oh, come here, little boy. No, that's a regular looking ass dude.
00:52:47
Speaker 1: With regular jobs and families and all of this shit.
00:52:49
Speaker 5: I mean, Trump looks fairly normal.
00:52:51
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:52:53
Speaker 5: Jared from Subway looked fairly normal.
00:52:55
Speaker 3: Did y'all see Subway?
00:52:56
Speaker 1: He was in there, yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker 3: That was funny.
00:52:59
Speaker 1: That was foul. I caught that. I caught that. I didn't catch it. They don't look crazy and creepy otherwise they would never be able to get Yeah.
00:53:15
Speaker 7: I think the people that have that critique are probably looking at the way they're portraying Chris Hansen in here as this dark guy he's a cheater and They have all these different red and blue colors on them.
00:53:30
Speaker 1: He's yelling at the staff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they portrayed him in that way. The documentary raises good questions, though, that make you kind of look at it like, should they get help or should you be more on the side of the guy on the airplane? Yes. Like, you know what I'm saying? It raises... That's a good question to have. Thank you. Yeah.
00:53:46
Speaker 4: It's like, do you help these people because they're sick or fuck them, put them in jail forever and or kill them?
00:53:52
Speaker 1: Right.
00:53:52
Speaker 4: That's more important. Like, I think the documentary... If y'all hated this movie, please go watch the documentary.
00:53:57
Speaker 3: Where's the doc stream?
00:53:58
Speaker 1: Hulu?
00:53:58
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
00:53:59
Speaker 1: Oh, no, Paramount Plus.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: It's one of those.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: It's Paramount Plus.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Well, y'all go check the doc out, man. That's been our review of the show, or excuse me, the movie Primetime. If you choose to go check it out. We thank you for checking out the review.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: We out. Peace.