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Hey, welcome to Forever Hallmark Christmas movie review podcast where we review Hallmark Christmas movies year-round.
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My name is Rich.
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Joined as always by my co-host Renee.
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How's it going, buddy?
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It's going very well, Rich.
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We're having Christmas weather again up in the 90s here in Southern California.
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We sure are.
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And Tay is it's officially counting down to Christmas 2026, our favorite time of the year.
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And uh are you ready to talk a little NFL?
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I sure am.
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All right, so let's talk.
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Holiday touchdown, a bear's love story.
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And Renee, a little uh FHC spoiler alert here.
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We're gonna dive into the plot and discuss those big twists, turns, and surprises.
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So if you haven't seen this movie and you want to fire up Hallmark Plus, give it a watch before you listen to us.
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Go ahead and do that now because uh we might reveal a couple spoilers out there.
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So this movie premiered October 17th, 2026, on the Hallmark Channel.
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And the following day appeared on Hallmark Plus.
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The stars Lindsay Fonsec as Avery and Robert Buckley as Matt.
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Three writing credits on this one Christine Garver, Stephanie Jackson, and Marcy Holland, directed by Dustin Rikert.
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And here's our little holiday hook on this one an ambitious reporter covering a legendary Chicago Bears Super Pans 500th game knows nothing about football until the fans, handsome firefighter Grunson, becomes her guide to Bears Nation.
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As Christmas traditions and sparks fly, she discovers that home may be the greatest story of all.
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Alright, Renee.
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NFL Part 3.
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What do you think of this one?
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Let me just say we discussed it just a moment ago and we said we can't do any fun facts because we don't know anything about it.
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But I I do have one fun fact, surprise.
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She the the premise is the grand is gonna see her 500th game.
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So I did some calculations.
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If you went to 17 games, that's not that means away games, right?
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As well.
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17 games every year, it would take you 29.4 years.
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So just to give you an idea of how long that is, and really there's only half that in home games.
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So it must have taken her 50 years or something to watch these games.
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That's all.
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That's all Mike.
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Okay.
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I mean, uh Marshall Race is 84 years old when they recorded this movie, so it's doable.
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That was funny when I was so it's uh it's a lot of Bears games, but definitely tons of bear games.
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And uh, you know, sadly we lost uh Mike Ditka this week, so uh that's uh you know, it's kind of poignant to see this movie as well.
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Yeah.
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What did I think of this movie?
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Uh I enjoyed it.
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I enjoyed the characters.
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Uh I like seeing some familiar faces like uh uh Abraham Ben Ruby playing Santa with a super deep voice.
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I thought it was a cute story.
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Uh I love, you know me, I love nutty sports people.
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And I think the Bills people were a little bit nuttier than the Bears people, but uh overall, this movie, I enjoyed it.
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It's worth the watch.
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Uh I'm gonna keep it simple on that, but yeah, it's worth the watch for sure.
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Yeah, I enjoyed it too.
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There's a heck of a lot to like that we'll talk about in a minute.
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I I did find it a tad on the slow side and a little bit predictable, but I think there was enough to like to kind of say, yeah, I really did enjoy this one.
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And I started thinking this is NFL movie number three, and has the NFL slash Hallmark collaboration run its course?
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And you know, without a doubt, Hallmark is a female-driven network.
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That is their prime watching demographic.
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But this NFL Hallmark Collaboration is a way to get more guys to watch Hallmark movies.
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You can just imagine a wife is watching, it's a movie about the NFL, her husband watches along, and maybe just like you and I, he becomes one of these guys who loves Hallmark uh Christmas movies.
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And I started thinking, I do hope they keep the collaboration going, but we've had Kansas City, we've had Buffalo, we've had Chicago.
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I think it is time to move to the West Coast.
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And and here is my plan for Hallmark: holiday touchdown, a 49ers love story.
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There's a ton of great Christmas stuff going on up in the Bay Area.
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And Renee, friend of the podcast, one of the best Hallmark writers out there, Julie Sherman Wolf, is one of the world's biggest 49ers fans.
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So, Hallmark, let's get you, Julie Sherman Wolf, in a room together, and let's make Holiday Touchdown, a 49ers love story, 2027, a reality.
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Just a quick note Rich and Renee are available as background actors in this movie.
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So we'll fly up to San Francisco.
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Yeah, if if they actually take this to heart and then make it happen, it was our idea.
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We absolutely should be in the movie somehow.
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They're 5-0, so they're doing great.
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So it's a great time to capitalize on that.
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All right, let's talk about the things we liked about this movie.
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Sure.
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Um, I love the nice when they first met, the nice rapport when Matt meets Avery in the bar for the first time.
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They had a lovely banter.
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I really enjoyed that.
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Gran and her friends, all in bear gear, assuming Matt and Avery were dating right away.
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I thought it was so funny and cute.
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The the the grandma bears.
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Yeah.
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The grandma bears.
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Uh, and then and then Gran making Matt show up to Christmas reading with Avery.
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You know, she's setting Matt up.
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Love Gran asking about Avery.
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Is she still single?
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Is she single?
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Does Matt have your number?
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All those little things.
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I just got a kick out of that so much.
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I really enjoyed that.
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Avery making the cornhole rose, throws right in the hole, like three in a row, and then Ron exclaiming, She's a prodigy.
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That was a laugh out loud moment for me.
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I really like that one.
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There's lots of scenes, but I'm gonna, you know, just one more.
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Is that I like this a little bit more serious scene is I like when when Matt and Avery are on the ferry, and I do have a comment about that later, and it's a nice real talk about his career and him saying, you know, like, Well, did I get to where I was because my father was a lieutenant or whatever he was, or fire chief.
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And she wisely says, Well, did your dad grade you on the test?
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And he goes, Well, no.
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So then, really, it's about his own achievements as a firefighter.
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I thought that was a nice sort of real moment scene.
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I I loved lots of things I I enjoyed about this movie, but I'll keep it there for now.
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Yeah, I mean, I one of the reasons I really was excited about this movie is Chicago in general.
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I love Chicago as a town.
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Um, and I love the intro, uh, great shots of Chicago and all about uh the city there.
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So that was really well done.
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Uh I love the picture of Dika in the bar, uh, giving, you know, paying respect to, as you mentioned, my Dika just passed away a couple days ago.
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So it's uh great to see him represented in the movie.
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And uh like you, I love the banter between the Meet Cute uh with Avery and Matt.
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Grandma Bears were great.
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Uh I love the cruise at night that you also mentioned was just a beautiful setting there, uh, really shot well.
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What about Santa singing karaoke?
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That was great.
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Yeah, great deep voice that guy has.
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Uh, I loved when Ron uh told Avery the story about Jody walking to his bar, and he says, of all the gin joints, which was of course his little nod to Casablanca, really uh well written into that.
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A couple cameos, Mary Lou, uh, Mary-Lou Hemer, uh, Tamara Maori House.
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Our 100th follower, by the way.
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Uh so some good Hallmark cameos.
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And lastly, Ron getting his personalized beanbags uh for Cornhole was a really cute touch at the end of the movie there.
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He was so excited about that.
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He was a great character.
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I love him.
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All right, so we always talk about our things that we like, and we always uh mention some things that we might fix if we had the chance.
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And I had a couple here.
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What about you?
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You know, I'm gonna touch on one that that you mentioned.
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I felt the latter late middle part of the movie was a little slow, but it was dealing with like more emotional and and more emotional scenes that were heartfelt.
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So if you don't, if you have the patience, you know, sometimes I just want to I tend to like my hallmark movies kind of fast-paced and funny.
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I do as well.
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But some of them are emotional, so I I don't I didn't mind that, but that was something I would maybe fix in a rewrite to keep that going along.
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But you know, that's up to the writers.
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And the other one was I I didn't quite understand the fairy scene.
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Why was it it?
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You only saw those them two on there.
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It's called the sleigh ride cruise.
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I didn't look it up to see if that's an actual thing.
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But I thought it was I thought the harbor was supposed to be decorated, and I didn't see any lights, anything to make it look festive at all.
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I get it, they probably didn't film it during Christmas.
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For sure they did not, yeah.
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The the harbor wasn't at all lit up, like he described it to Avery.
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So to me, it's like, okay, spend a little bit of money and do some CGI lighting or something.
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Yeah.
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And those are my my two.
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I I really didn't wasn't looking to nitpick this one too much because I was just kind of enjoying the story.
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Yeah, I only have a few nitpicks as well, nothing major.
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I I thought Darlene was trying a little too hard, like right away to get Matt and Avery together.
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It seemed a it seemed a little forced.
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I think they could have just eased their way into that a little bit.
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Uh that almost kiss on the boat ride, that was 33 minutes in.
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And I thought their chemistry was just starting to slowly build.
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I thought that was just that was a little early for me.
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It could have waited a little bit longer into the movie if we were gonna have an almost kiss or even a mid-movie kiss, which you and I are all about.
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Yeah.
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But it just seemed a little early.
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And and here's my last this is a boy, this is a big one, Renee, because we just did our bold predictions podcast, and I predicted this would be the best movie when it came to food and beverage.
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The Italian beef sandwich, which they featured, and I'm glad they did.
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But they said they were gonna give Avery a double-dipped sandwich.
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It wasn't dipped at all, it was super dry, no spicy peppers.
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I feel like I got robbed.
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I when I saw those scenes, I'm like, you know, I was like, oh boy, is Rich gonna beat me out on my choice because we had different choices.
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I said, I don't think so.
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I don't think Rich is gonna win this one because it was a they did not do that justice.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it well, not only did they do no, but they said they were gonna double dip it.
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I know.
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There was nothing.
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It was like just like a completely dry sandwich.
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What the heck?
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That's all that's all I got.
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Uh yeah, not too much uh to nitpick in this movie.
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All right.
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Favorite moment?
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So I didn't really have a favorite moment that stood out.
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So I picked this moment that I just enjoyed, and it's one you mentioned, the the Christmas karaoke scene scene.
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And and the singing.
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I thought that was neat, and the people saying to Gran, like, Oh, you did a good job.
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And then Avery going, like, I sang too, and then that happened to her like two or three times.
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That just started making me laugh more and more.
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It was a simple, festive scene.
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I did like the Christmas spirit there, all the donations for the children.
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Lovely display of Christmas spirit, and I always love seeing that in the movie.
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But that was my as close as I could get to a favorite moment in this movie.
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Yeah, there's some really touching moments in this one, especially the one with Darlene and her husband, kind of those flashbacks that were kind of very emotional and really well done.
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In the end, I'm going with a visit to the Bears Field House, that to indoor kind of practice facility theirs.
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It was just really cool.
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It was visually impressive.
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Uh, the look on like Matt's face, like he was just like blown away, like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm getting to see this place.
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Uh, I just love the visuals of it.
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That's I'm going with that as my favorite moment.
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Something different that I didn't think I'd pick in this movie, but I I didn't see that one coming and I really liked it.
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You know, I I that was my second choice.
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And when I was watching it, I said, Oh my gosh, that's Mike Singletary.
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That is like he was, I can't say the bad words, but he was a bad dude on the field.
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I mean, he was a mean dude.
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He was uh he was a ferocious player, and he's like half the size he was when he was on the field, but I recognized Mike Singletary's eyes anywhere, and I couldn't quite place who the other guy was.
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But um just seeing Mike Singletary alone, I uh I I you know I stopped in my tracks, like, oh my gosh, that's Mike Singletary.
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He's great.
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And you know, he was the coach for the 49ers for a little bit, going back to tying that in.
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So good scene.
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All right, best supporting character.
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I think we're gonna have the same one.
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Can I guess for you?
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You can guess.
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Uh I think you're gonna go with Ron.
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That was a very I almost picked Ron.
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But what I did is I went with Darlene's three friends.
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The grandma bears.
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The grandma bears.
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I know it's not you know, to me, they're they're one unit.
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They were so cute and funny and bears obsessed, which is what I like to see in a football movie.
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And they also wanted to help Matt and Avery become a couple.
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I just loved the heck out of them.
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I thought they were so funny every time they were on screen.
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I just love seeing them dressed up, they were just absolutely adorable.
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I love them so much.
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Well, I am going with Ron.
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I I thought he was a great character, uh great dialogue.
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Um yeah, the relationship between him and Jody, him and Avery.
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Uh he's obviously a bear super fan.
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Uh, love the story uh about his bar.
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Uh obviously a fierce cornhole competitor.
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Very fierce.
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Like you say, he was so excited when he got those personalized fiendbacks at the end of the movie.
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It was I just enjoyed everything with Ron.
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He was just a really fun, well-written, supporting character.
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Yeah, I love how over-the-top he was.
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You know me, I love an over-the-top character.
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All right, time for some bears logic checks.
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Any are we shirts on this one?
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Sure.
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I have three.
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When Avery is throws the winning shot in Cornhole, the rule is you're supposed to have a drink in your hand when you make that shot.
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She did not have a drink in her hand.
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I I caught that as well.
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Yep.
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Anybody not gonna say anything about that?
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I think if I was on the losing end, I'd be like, hey, hey, disqualified, disqualified.
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We win.
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Yep, right?
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I mean, you don't want to win that way, but still.
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But that that that is that is part of the whole thing.
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You know, they they do what they're come on.
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It was a big deal early on, right?
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So, okay.
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The other one is I get it, it's a beautiful it was a beautiful scene, but would Darlene miss the first half of her 500th game?
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Couldn't she visit the sick lady and I don't remember her name after the game or before the game, right?
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So I I think if I was going to my 500th game, I'd be like, hey, hey lady, I'll see you before or after.
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I'm not missing this, right?
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But I get it, it's a lovely sentiment.
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So that's why it's not a rewrite, it's just an are we sure?
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And the last one I have is you would actually take a fire truck to the game.
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That seems like a bad use of city resources.
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Uh, and there didn't even appear to be that much traffic on the way there.
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Every street was like empty.
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I'm like, I think I could have just driven there safely.
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So that was it for me.
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I just I was just like, come on, taking the fire truck.
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I get it, it's a kind of a cool movie scene.
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I only had two, and your last one was my first one that the fire truck would be the fastest way to get to the game because traffic wasn't bad.
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And by the time they call the fire truck, get the fire truck rolling, get it to Darlene's place, and then back to the stadium, an Uber would have been 10 times faster.
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So yeah, and my other, are we sure?
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Okay, I'm I'm pretty coordinated guy.
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I played college tennis, pretty good hand-eye coordination.
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I've tried playing cornhole, and it's not as easy as you think.
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Okay.
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I I I yeah, I sank a few here and there, but Avery's basically the world's best cornhole player.
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Like from the first second she tosses a mean bag.
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Are we are we sure she'd be that good that fast?
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Having never played before.
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Uh Ron said she's a prodigy.
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Yeah, a prodigy.
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So but of course, I'm sure everyone's thinking, yeah, I've thrown a few cornhole beanbags.
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It's uh it's not that easy.
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For sure.
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So, but yeah, not too many, not too many arbers on this one.
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Yeah.
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Are Madden Avery gonna last us a couple?
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I think so.
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Uh she's now into football, became a Bears fan.
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They have nice, uh, they talk nicely, nice banter with each other.
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It was just a simple layup for touchdown, let's say.
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Let's not mix metaphors.
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Yeah, I think they're gonna last as a couple, they're a cute couple.
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Lindsay Fonteca's lovely, so what's not to like?
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Yeah, it was a nice slow build uh to their chemistry building up to them really uh you know, really liking each other.
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And let's be honest.
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Lindsay Fonseca, Robert Buckley, that is one good-looking couple.
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Oh, yeah.
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Uh, they're both gonna be in Chicago, so sure.
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These guys are gonna make it for sure.
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They're uh they're really good together, and uh no doubt they're gonna they're gonna last as a couple.
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I'm sorry your bold prediction uh failed you on this this one, by the way.
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What was my bold prediction?
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That the they would have the best food.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, we didn't get any tavern style pizza, no deep dish pizza, no hot dogs, not even the historic brownie from the Palmer House Hotel.
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I mean I know I'm talking out of turn, out of left field, but but you know it was a little disappointing, but and even in and I did get my Italian beef, but it fell so flat.
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I know.
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All right, we always rate the kiss A to F, the mistletoe meter.
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Let's uh let's hear what you think of this one.
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So it's a cute little kiss under the mistletoe.
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It's just a there was one, just a peck on the cheek.
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I don't consider that one reviewable, but it was cute.
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Me neither.
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The kiss where he had all the candles lit was a B plus for me.
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There was a little bit where they just had their lips smashed together for a second, like just together.
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Like I've never seen anybody kiss like that, except for like babies.
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But then it got better.
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It ended nicely as a simple yet nice ending kiss.
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Overall, I gave this kiss a B plus.
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Wow, I think you're underplaying this one.
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Wow.
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Now I agree.
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At first, their their faces kind of mashed together.
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I'm kind of going, Oh, I don't know about this.
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But then we got some great camera work circle circling around them as the kiss got hotter and hotter, and they started going at it, Renee.
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I mean they did.
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And Renee, 20 seconds.
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That is a long, long Hallmark kiss.
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Um, and then we got a good solid kiss right at the end before the final credits ran.
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I'm giving it a solid all around A, Renee.
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I think a B plus is a little bit low, but that's just me.
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I wonder if we need to add a new category to our every 10-episode review of like re-review the kisses.
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I don't know.
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You know, if you aim this would not, you know, I wouldn't fight it too hard.
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So like I said, I just think the camera work, the fact that the kiss got hotter and hotter as the kiss went along, um, and it was so long.
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Yeah, I I mean I think it it all ends up for an A for not A plus, but a good solid A.
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I won't argue with that.
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All right, something I stole from Bill Simmons Rewatchables podcast.
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We always uh end every podcast with who or what won the movie.
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So uh for me, I enjoyed I liked all the backstories going on, and normally you and I push back on too many backstories, you know, but Gran and her 500th game, which is kind of a not a it's a the the reason the movie's there, but and the connection between Avery and Matt.
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Avery's mom and Ron's story, that's a lovely story.
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So the so for me, this and the stories won the movie.
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I got a lot about so many people, as I said, which sometimes can be a bit much for us, but I felt it was done.
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There were just the right amount of of several things going on.
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So for me, the writers won the movie, and you just told me their names because I didn't log it down, but you said the writers were Christine Garber, Stephanie Jack, and was it Marcy Holland?
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Marcy Holland, yeah, who also wrote the Biltmore movies.
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Oh, geez, how do I not know that?
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Yeah, I'm not as good at this as you are, but yeah, the writers for me, the story uh won this movie.
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Yeah, I like the writers as well.
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And I think the good thing they've done actually with all three of these NFL movies is they don't shove the football down your throat.
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You know, you're definitely getting that rom-com that Hallmark fans want to see.
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And then the football is kind of a secondary to getting everything in that Hallmark movie that you want.
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So they do a good job of uh of blending the NFL collaboration with Hallmark, but then making sure we're hitting all the Hallmark uh high points as well.
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Um, for me though, I am going with Darlene as the winner of this movie, portrayed by 84-year-old Marsha Mason.
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Uh, and she's a famous actress.
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I mean, nominated four times for Academy Award as Best Actress, uh, won an Emmy for her role on Fraser.
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I don't know if you knew this, Renee.
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Back in the 1980s, at Paul Newman's urging, she became a competitive auto racer.
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So a really great uh story to her life.
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And I thought she just killed it in this movie.
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Every scene she was in, she was so charismatic.
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Uh, the story basically centered around her and her love of the bears and her 500th Bears games.
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And for that reason, 84-year-old Marsha Mason, she's my MVP of this movie.
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Yeah, and auto car racing that qualifies as a fun fact as far as I'm concerned.
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Wow, nice pull on that one.
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Good job.
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All right, we always rate the movies one to five, and we always give us some symbolic symbol that uh kind of goes along with and I could not resist.
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He passed away last week.
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How many ditkas are we giving this movie?
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Four Mike Ditkas.
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It was a very warm, heartfelt story, and the actors were charming.
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And you know, I know my ratings fluctuate, and I was thinking about that, but I didn't because we're watching a lot of movies this week.
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I didn't go back and compare to my previous fours or three seven fives or four point two five.
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So I just went, my gut just said four, four Mike Ditkas.
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I'm happy with it.
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In the end, I went 3.75 Mike Ditkas.
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Uh the overall movies for the NFL, I think I like the Chiefs the best, but I did like this one better than the Bills movie.
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Uh for me, 3.5 is kind of the average movie, and I think this one was a little bit above average.
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So uh 3.75 Ditkas on this one.
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All right.
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Well, that's a wrap on uh the NFL Hallmark Collaboration Part three.
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Uh follow us on Instagram because we're gonna be reviewing a whole bunch of these Hallmark Christmas movies this year.
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Renee, I don't know if we're gonna get to all 34.
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I know we're gonna try.
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That's a lot of movies.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but you can follow us on Instagram to see uh what movies we have coming up on any given week, what we're gonna review.
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Uh email forever hallmarkchristmas at gmail.com.
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And until next week in part of 2026 Countdown to Christmas, let's keep it for the love of Hallmark.
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For the love of Hallmark
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Hey, welcome to Forever Hallmark Christmas movie review podcast where we review Hallmark Christmas movies year-round.
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My name is Rich.
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Joined as always by my co-host Renee.
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How's it going, buddy?
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It's going very well, Rich.
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We're having Christmas weather again up in the 90s here in Southern California.
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We sure are.
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And Tay is it's officially counting down to Christmas 2026, our favorite time of the year.
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And uh are you ready to talk a little NFL?
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I sure am.
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All right, so let's talk.
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Holiday touchdown, a bear's love story.
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And Renee, a little uh FHC spoiler alert here.
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We're gonna dive into the plot and discuss those big twists, turns, and surprises.
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So if you haven't seen this movie and you want to fire up Hallmark Plus, give it a watch before you listen to us.
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Go ahead and do that now because uh we might reveal a couple spoilers out there.
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So this movie premiered October 17th, 2026, on the Hallmark Channel.
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And the following day appeared on Hallmark Plus.
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The stars Lindsay Fonsec as Avery and Robert Buckley as Matt.
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Three writing credits on this one Christine Garver, Stephanie Jackson, and Marcy Holland, directed by Dustin Rikert.
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And here's our little holiday hook on this one an ambitious reporter covering a legendary Chicago Bears Super Pans 500th game knows nothing about football until the fans, handsome firefighter Grunson, becomes her guide to Bears Nation.
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As Christmas traditions and sparks fly, she discovers that home may be the greatest story of all.
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Alright, Renee.
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NFL Part 3.
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What do you think of this one?
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Let me just say we discussed it just a moment ago and we said we can't do any fun facts because we don't know anything about it.
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But I I do have one fun fact, surprise.
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She the the premise is the grand is gonna see her 500th game.
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So I did some calculations.
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If you went to 17 games, that's not that means away games, right?
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As well.
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17 games every year, it would take you 29.4 years.
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So just to give you an idea of how long that is, and really there's only half that in home games.
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So it must have taken her 50 years or something to watch these games.
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That's all.
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That's all Mike.
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Okay.
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I mean, uh Marshall Race is 84 years old when they recorded this movie, so it's doable.
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That was funny when I was so it's uh it's a lot of Bears games, but definitely tons of bear games.
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And uh, you know, sadly we lost uh Mike Ditka this week, so uh that's uh you know, it's kind of poignant to see this movie as well.
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Yeah.
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What did I think of this movie?
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Uh I enjoyed it.
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I enjoyed the characters.
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Uh I like seeing some familiar faces like uh uh Abraham Ben Ruby playing Santa with a super deep voice.
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I thought it was a cute story.
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Uh I love, you know me, I love nutty sports people.
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And I think the Bills people were a little bit nuttier than the Bears people, but uh overall, this movie, I enjoyed it.
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It's worth the watch.
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Uh I'm gonna keep it simple on that, but yeah, it's worth the watch for sure.
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Yeah, I enjoyed it too.
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There's a heck of a lot to like that we'll talk about in a minute.
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I I did find it a tad on the slow side and a little bit predictable, but I think there was enough to like to kind of say, yeah, I really did enjoy this one.
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And I started thinking this is NFL movie number three, and has the NFL slash Hallmark collaboration run its course?
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And you know, without a doubt, Hallmark is a female-driven network.
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That is their prime watching demographic.
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But this NFL Hallmark Collaboration is a way to get more guys to watch Hallmark movies.
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You can just imagine a wife is watching, it's a movie about the NFL, her husband watches along, and maybe just like you and I, he becomes one of these guys who loves Hallmark uh Christmas movies.
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And I started thinking, I do hope they keep the collaboration going, but we've had Kansas City, we've had Buffalo, we've had Chicago.
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I think it is time to move to the West Coast.
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And and here is my plan for Hallmark: holiday touchdown, a 49ers love story.
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There's a ton of great Christmas stuff going on up in the Bay Area.
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And Renee, friend of the podcast, one of the best Hallmark writers out there, Julie Sherman Wolf, is one of the world's biggest 49ers fans.
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So, Hallmark, let's get you, Julie Sherman Wolf, in a room together, and let's make Holiday Touchdown, a 49ers love story, 2027, a reality.
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Just a quick note Rich and Renee are available as background actors in this movie.
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So we'll fly up to San Francisco.
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Yeah, if if they actually take this to heart and then make it happen, it was our idea.
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We absolutely should be in the movie somehow.
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They're 5-0, so they're doing great.
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So it's a great time to capitalize on that.
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All right, let's talk about the things we liked about this movie.
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Sure.
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Um, I love the nice when they first met, the nice rapport when Matt meets Avery in the bar for the first time.
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They had a lovely banter.
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I really enjoyed that.
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Gran and her friends, all in bear gear, assuming Matt and Avery were dating right away.
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I thought it was so funny and cute.
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The the the grandma bears.
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Yeah.
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The grandma bears.
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Uh, and then and then Gran making Matt show up to Christmas reading with Avery.
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You know, she's setting Matt up.
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Love Gran asking about Avery.
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Is she still single?
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Is she single?
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Does Matt have your number?
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All those little things.
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I just got a kick out of that so much.
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I really enjoyed that.
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Avery making the cornhole rose, throws right in the hole, like three in a row, and then Ron exclaiming, She's a prodigy.
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That was a laugh out loud moment for me.
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I really like that one.
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There's lots of scenes, but I'm gonna, you know, just one more.
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Is that I like this a little bit more serious scene is I like when when Matt and Avery are on the ferry, and I do have a comment about that later, and it's a nice real talk about his career and him saying, you know, like, Well, did I get to where I was because my father was a lieutenant or whatever he was, or fire chief.
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And she wisely says, Well, did your dad grade you on the test?
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And he goes, Well, no.
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So then, really, it's about his own achievements as a firefighter.
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I thought that was a nice sort of real moment scene.
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I I loved lots of things I I enjoyed about this movie, but I'll keep it there for now.
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Yeah, I mean, I one of the reasons I really was excited about this movie is Chicago in general.
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I love Chicago as a town.
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Um, and I love the intro, uh, great shots of Chicago and all about uh the city there.
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So that was really well done.
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Uh I love the picture of Dika in the bar, uh, giving, you know, paying respect to, as you mentioned, my Dika just passed away a couple days ago.
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So it's uh great to see him represented in the movie.
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And uh like you, I love the banter between the Meet Cute uh with Avery and Matt.
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Grandma Bears were great.
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Uh I love the cruise at night that you also mentioned was just a beautiful setting there, uh, really shot well.
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What about Santa singing karaoke?
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That was great.
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Yeah, great deep voice that guy has.
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Uh, I loved when Ron uh told Avery the story about Jody walking to his bar, and he says, of all the gin joints, which was of course his little nod to Casablanca, really uh well written into that.
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A couple cameos, Mary Lou, uh, Mary-Lou Hemer, uh, Tamara Maori House.
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Our 100th follower, by the way.
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Uh so some good Hallmark cameos.
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And lastly, Ron getting his personalized beanbags uh for Cornhole was a really cute touch at the end of the movie there.
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He was so excited about that.
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He was a great character.
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I love him.
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All right, so we always talk about our things that we like, and we always uh mention some things that we might fix if we had the chance.
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And I had a couple here.
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What about you?
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You know, I'm gonna touch on one that that you mentioned.
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I felt the latter late middle part of the movie was a little slow, but it was dealing with like more emotional and and more emotional scenes that were heartfelt.
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So if you don't, if you have the patience, you know, sometimes I just want to I tend to like my hallmark movies kind of fast-paced and funny.
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I do as well.
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But some of them are emotional, so I I don't I didn't mind that, but that was something I would maybe fix in a rewrite to keep that going along.
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But you know, that's up to the writers.
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And the other one was I I didn't quite understand the fairy scene.
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Why was it it?
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You only saw those them two on there.
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It's called the sleigh ride cruise.
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I didn't look it up to see if that's an actual thing.
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But I thought it was I thought the harbor was supposed to be decorated, and I didn't see any lights, anything to make it look festive at all.
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I get it, they probably didn't film it during Christmas.
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For sure they did not, yeah.
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The the harbor wasn't at all lit up, like he described it to Avery.
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So to me, it's like, okay, spend a little bit of money and do some CGI lighting or something.
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Yeah.
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And those are my my two.
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I I really didn't wasn't looking to nitpick this one too much because I was just kind of enjoying the story.
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Yeah, I only have a few nitpicks as well, nothing major.
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I I thought Darlene was trying a little too hard, like right away to get Matt and Avery together.
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It seemed a it seemed a little forced.
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I think they could have just eased their way into that a little bit.
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Uh that almost kiss on the boat ride, that was 33 minutes in.
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And I thought their chemistry was just starting to slowly build.
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I thought that was just that was a little early for me.
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It could have waited a little bit longer into the movie if we were gonna have an almost kiss or even a mid-movie kiss, which you and I are all about.
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Yeah.
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But it just seemed a little early.
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And and here's my last this is a boy, this is a big one, Renee, because we just did our bold predictions podcast, and I predicted this would be the best movie when it came to food and beverage.
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The Italian beef sandwich, which they featured, and I'm glad they did.
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But they said they were gonna give Avery a double-dipped sandwich.
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It wasn't dipped at all, it was super dry, no spicy peppers.
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I feel like I got robbed.
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I when I saw those scenes, I'm like, you know, I was like, oh boy, is Rich gonna beat me out on my choice because we had different choices.
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I said, I don't think so.
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I don't think Rich is gonna win this one because it was a they did not do that justice.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it well, not only did they do no, but they said they were gonna double dip it.
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I know.
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There was nothing.
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It was like just like a completely dry sandwich.
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What the heck?
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That's all that's all I got.
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Uh yeah, not too much uh to nitpick in this movie.
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All right.
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Favorite moment?
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So I didn't really have a favorite moment that stood out.
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So I picked this moment that I just enjoyed, and it's one you mentioned, the the Christmas karaoke scene scene.
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And and the singing.
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I thought that was neat, and the people saying to Gran, like, Oh, you did a good job.
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And then Avery going, like, I sang too, and then that happened to her like two or three times.
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That just started making me laugh more and more.
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It was a simple, festive scene.
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I did like the Christmas spirit there, all the donations for the children.
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Lovely display of Christmas spirit, and I always love seeing that in the movie.
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But that was my as close as I could get to a favorite moment in this movie.
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Yeah, there's some really touching moments in this one, especially the one with Darlene and her husband, kind of those flashbacks that were kind of very emotional and really well done.
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In the end, I'm going with a visit to the Bears Field House, that to indoor kind of practice facility theirs.
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It was just really cool.
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It was visually impressive.
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Uh, the look on like Matt's face, like he was just like blown away, like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm getting to see this place.
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Uh, I just love the visuals of it.
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That's I'm going with that as my favorite moment.
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Something different that I didn't think I'd pick in this movie, but I I didn't see that one coming and I really liked it.
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You know, I I that was my second choice.
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And when I was watching it, I said, Oh my gosh, that's Mike Singletary.
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That is like he was, I can't say the bad words, but he was a bad dude on the field.
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I mean, he was a mean dude.
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He was uh he was a ferocious player, and he's like half the size he was when he was on the field, but I recognized Mike Singletary's eyes anywhere, and I couldn't quite place who the other guy was.
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But um just seeing Mike Singletary alone, I uh I I you know I stopped in my tracks, like, oh my gosh, that's Mike Singletary.
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He's great.
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And you know, he was the coach for the 49ers for a little bit, going back to tying that in.
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So good scene.
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All right, best supporting character.
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I think we're gonna have the same one.
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Can I guess for you?
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You can guess.
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Uh I think you're gonna go with Ron.
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That was a very I almost picked Ron.
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But what I did is I went with Darlene's three friends.
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The grandma bears.
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The grandma bears.
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I know it's not you know, to me, they're they're one unit.
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They were so cute and funny and bears obsessed, which is what I like to see in a football movie.
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And they also wanted to help Matt and Avery become a couple.
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I just loved the heck out of them.
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I thought they were so funny every time they were on screen.
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I just love seeing them dressed up, they were just absolutely adorable.
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I love them so much.
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Well, I am going with Ron.
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I I thought he was a great character, uh great dialogue.
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Um yeah, the relationship between him and Jody, him and Avery.
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Uh he's obviously a bear super fan.
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Uh, love the story uh about his bar.
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Uh obviously a fierce cornhole competitor.
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Very fierce.
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Like you say, he was so excited when he got those personalized fiendbacks at the end of the movie.
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It was I just enjoyed everything with Ron.
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He was just a really fun, well-written, supporting character.
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Yeah, I love how over-the-top he was.
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You know me, I love an over-the-top character.
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All right, time for some bears logic checks.
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Any are we shirts on this one?
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Sure.
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I have three.
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When Avery is throws the winning shot in Cornhole, the rule is you're supposed to have a drink in your hand when you make that shot.
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She did not have a drink in her hand.
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I I caught that as well.
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Yep.
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Anybody not gonna say anything about that?
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I think if I was on the losing end, I'd be like, hey, hey, disqualified, disqualified.
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We win.
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Yep, right?
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I mean, you don't want to win that way, but still.
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But that that that is that is part of the whole thing.
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You know, they they do what they're come on.
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It was a big deal early on, right?
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So, okay.
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The other one is I get it, it's a beautiful it was a beautiful scene, but would Darlene miss the first half of her 500th game?
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Couldn't she visit the sick lady and I don't remember her name after the game or before the game, right?
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So I I think if I was going to my 500th game, I'd be like, hey, hey lady, I'll see you before or after.
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I'm not missing this, right?
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But I get it, it's a lovely sentiment.
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So that's why it's not a rewrite, it's just an are we sure?
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And the last one I have is you would actually take a fire truck to the game.
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That seems like a bad use of city resources.
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Uh, and there didn't even appear to be that much traffic on the way there.
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Every street was like empty.
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I'm like, I think I could have just driven there safely.
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So that was it for me.
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I just I was just like, come on, taking the fire truck.
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I get it, it's a kind of a cool movie scene.
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I only had two, and your last one was my first one that the fire truck would be the fastest way to get to the game because traffic wasn't bad.
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And by the time they call the fire truck, get the fire truck rolling, get it to Darlene's place, and then back to the stadium, an Uber would have been 10 times faster.
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So yeah, and my other, are we sure?
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Okay, I'm I'm pretty coordinated guy.
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I played college tennis, pretty good hand-eye coordination.
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I've tried playing cornhole, and it's not as easy as you think.
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Okay.
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I I I yeah, I sank a few here and there, but Avery's basically the world's best cornhole player.
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Like from the first second she tosses a mean bag.
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Are we are we sure she'd be that good that fast?
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Having never played before.
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Uh Ron said she's a prodigy.
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Yeah, a prodigy.
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So but of course, I'm sure everyone's thinking, yeah, I've thrown a few cornhole beanbags.
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It's uh it's not that easy.
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For sure.
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So, but yeah, not too many, not too many arbers on this one.
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Yeah.
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Are Madden Avery gonna last us a couple?
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I think so.
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Uh she's now into football, became a Bears fan.
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They have nice, uh, they talk nicely, nice banter with each other.
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It was just a simple layup for touchdown, let's say.
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Let's not mix metaphors.
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Yeah, I think they're gonna last as a couple, they're a cute couple.
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Lindsay Fonteca's lovely, so what's not to like?
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Yeah, it was a nice slow build uh to their chemistry building up to them really uh you know, really liking each other.
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And let's be honest.
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Lindsay Fonseca, Robert Buckley, that is one good-looking couple.
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Oh, yeah.
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Uh, they're both gonna be in Chicago, so sure.
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These guys are gonna make it for sure.
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They're uh they're really good together, and uh no doubt they're gonna they're gonna last as a couple.
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I'm sorry your bold prediction uh failed you on this this one, by the way.
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What was my bold prediction?
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That the they would have the best food.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, we didn't get any tavern style pizza, no deep dish pizza, no hot dogs, not even the historic brownie from the Palmer House Hotel.
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I mean I know I'm talking out of turn, out of left field, but but you know it was a little disappointing, but and even in and I did get my Italian beef, but it fell so flat.
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I know.
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All right, we always rate the kiss A to F, the mistletoe meter.
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Let's uh let's hear what you think of this one.
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So it's a cute little kiss under the mistletoe.
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It's just a there was one, just a peck on the cheek.
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I don't consider that one reviewable, but it was cute.
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Me neither.
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The kiss where he had all the candles lit was a B plus for me.
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There was a little bit where they just had their lips smashed together for a second, like just together.
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Like I've never seen anybody kiss like that, except for like babies.
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But then it got better.
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It ended nicely as a simple yet nice ending kiss.
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Overall, I gave this kiss a B plus.
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Wow, I think you're underplaying this one.
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Wow.
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Now I agree.
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At first, their their faces kind of mashed together.
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I'm kind of going, Oh, I don't know about this.
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But then we got some great camera work circle circling around them as the kiss got hotter and hotter, and they started going at it, Renee.
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I mean they did.
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And Renee, 20 seconds.
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That is a long, long Hallmark kiss.
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Um, and then we got a good solid kiss right at the end before the final credits ran.
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I'm giving it a solid all around A, Renee.
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I think a B plus is a little bit low, but that's just me.
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I wonder if we need to add a new category to our every 10-episode review of like re-review the kisses.
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I don't know.
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You know, if you aim this would not, you know, I wouldn't fight it too hard.
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So like I said, I just think the camera work, the fact that the kiss got hotter and hotter as the kiss went along, um, and it was so long.
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Yeah, I I mean I think it it all ends up for an A for not A plus, but a good solid A.
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I won't argue with that.
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All right, something I stole from Bill Simmons Rewatchables podcast.
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We always uh end every podcast with who or what won the movie.
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So uh for me, I enjoyed I liked all the backstories going on, and normally you and I push back on too many backstories, you know, but Gran and her 500th game, which is kind of a not a it's a the the reason the movie's there, but and the connection between Avery and Matt.
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Avery's mom and Ron's story, that's a lovely story.
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So the so for me, this and the stories won the movie.
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I got a lot about so many people, as I said, which sometimes can be a bit much for us, but I felt it was done.
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There were just the right amount of of several things going on.
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So for me, the writers won the movie, and you just told me their names because I didn't log it down, but you said the writers were Christine Garber, Stephanie Jack, and was it Marcy Holland?
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Marcy Holland, yeah, who also wrote the Biltmore movies.
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Oh, geez, how do I not know that?
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Yeah, I'm not as good at this as you are, but yeah, the writers for me, the story uh won this movie.
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Yeah, I like the writers as well.
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And I think the good thing they've done actually with all three of these NFL movies is they don't shove the football down your throat.
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You know, you're definitely getting that rom-com that Hallmark fans want to see.
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And then the football is kind of a secondary to getting everything in that Hallmark movie that you want.
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So they do a good job of uh of blending the NFL collaboration with Hallmark, but then making sure we're hitting all the Hallmark uh high points as well.
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Um, for me though, I am going with Darlene as the winner of this movie, portrayed by 84-year-old Marsha Mason.
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Uh, and she's a famous actress.
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I mean, nominated four times for Academy Award as Best Actress, uh, won an Emmy for her role on Fraser.
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I don't know if you knew this, Renee.
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Back in the 1980s, at Paul Newman's urging, she became a competitive auto racer.
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So a really great uh story to her life.
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And I thought she just killed it in this movie.
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Every scene she was in, she was so charismatic.
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Uh, the story basically centered around her and her love of the bears and her 500th Bears games.
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And for that reason, 84-year-old Marsha Mason, she's my MVP of this movie.
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Yeah, and auto car racing that qualifies as a fun fact as far as I'm concerned.
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Wow, nice pull on that one.
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Good job.
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All right, we always rate the movies one to five, and we always give us some symbolic symbol that uh kind of goes along with and I could not resist.
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He passed away last week.
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How many ditkas are we giving this movie?
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Four Mike Ditkas.
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It was a very warm, heartfelt story, and the actors were charming.
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And you know, I know my ratings fluctuate, and I was thinking about that, but I didn't because we're watching a lot of movies this week.
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I didn't go back and compare to my previous fours or three seven fives or four point two five.
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So I just went, my gut just said four, four Mike Ditkas.
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I'm happy with it.
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In the end, I went 3.75 Mike Ditkas.
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Uh the overall movies for the NFL, I think I like the Chiefs the best, but I did like this one better than the Bills movie.
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Uh for me, 3.5 is kind of the average movie, and I think this one was a little bit above average.
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So uh 3.75 Ditkas on this one.
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All right.
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Well, that's a wrap on uh the NFL Hallmark Collaboration Part three.
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Uh follow us on Instagram because we're gonna be reviewing a whole bunch of these Hallmark Christmas movies this year.
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Renee, I don't know if we're gonna get to all 34.
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I know we're gonna try.
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That's a lot of movies.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but you can follow us on Instagram to see uh what movies we have coming up on any given week, what we're gonna review.
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Uh email forever hallmarkchristmas at gmail.com.
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And until next week in part of 2026 Countdown to Christmas, let's keep it for the love of Hallmark.
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For the love of Hallmark
