FKN Classics Double Feature! | Juan Ayala - Memetic Magick | Joseph Atwill - Secret Societies

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Now enjoy this episode today. I want to welcome back
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to the show Juan Ayala. He is an avid researcher,
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truth seeker, podcaster and host of the One on one podcast,
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which is a show where he talks about life, current events,
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esoteric conspiracy theories, and other mysteries of the universe. His
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goal with creating his podcast is to ask the hard
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questions and to share knowledge on certain esoteric subjects Wan,
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welcome back.
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How you doing. Thank you for having me back, bro,
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It's been a little I know we were going back
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and forth at first, and it seems like we're in
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some time warp or something and time flies? Is it me?
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Or is time just like speeding up? Hey?
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Yeah, everything is speeding up, dude, it's crazy. I don't know, man,
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but I am just stoked to have you back. I
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am ready to get super weird. Based on your talking points,
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We're gonna get super super weird. We're gonna dive back
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into the darkest depths of the world of chaos magic,
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memedic magic, and because this research comes from the fearless homunkyologist,
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We're gonna go beyond strange today. It's gonna be a
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good time as usual. Now, before we get into any
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of this, for the audience that may not be familiar
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with your brilliant homuncular lologile work, however, you say that,
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remind them a little bit about yourself and where they
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can find you.
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So my name is Juan, and I've been on here
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what four or five times now, Bro, it's been a
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little bit somewhere around there may be see. Yeah. So yeah,
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I'm a researcher, a regular guy who likes to talk
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about interesting topics, and I'm known, for the most part
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for the ho monkies. You can get your homnculus owners'
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manu ats on my website tj ojp dot com and
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you can find my podcast really anywhere at the Juan
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on Jue podcast on all major podcasts, on all social
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media platforms, and any podcast platform. You can also find
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me on YouTube as well, Juan on Juan A. Yeah,
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I talk about a lot about the occult, any esoteric concepts, alchemy, monculus, aliens,
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whatever I find interesting that week, I'll talk about it.
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And yeah, I've been NFL last five years now, since
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twenty nineteen, and yeah, dude, I'm ready to get weird today.
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I know. Yah. Shot me an email and you were like, hey,
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what have you been looking into it? I was like, well,
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I've been looking into a lot, so I'm ready.
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Bro.
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Yes, yeah man, it got my etheric nipples hard just
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to look at the topic. So can't wait to get
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into this first thing, man, mimedic occultism. I learned something
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from me every time you come on. This is something
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that I'm really not familiar with. Break it down for us.
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What is this so my medic occultism? I want to
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say it's The guy's name is Stixon Hammer six sixty
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six on YouTube. I think I've I've learned about the
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concept the word through him. I think, I don't know
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if he coined it, but I recently covered right there,
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there's talks of Pepe the frog and all these different concepts.
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You have Trump perhaps me maybe being a sort of
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chaos magician. Now chaos magic is interesting. So mimetic occultism
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what it is. It's propaganda that is meant to invoke
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a deeper feeling. So it's supposed to appeal to the soul.
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And this is any advertising, this is anything that really
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speaks to you on a subconscious level. It's it's in
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my opinion's even deeper than regular advertising where you see it.
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But they're working with colors, they're working with the images
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that are working in the background, collective conscious, subconscious, the
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dark self, whatever you want to call it. Right, something
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back in there. And mimetics is the spread of information.
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So a meme, an Internet meme, right to be distinguished,
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and an Internet meme, in my opinion, which we can
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get into it is the evolution of the magic square,
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if you will. And so a meme is the smallest
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form of information. Mimetics is the spread of information. So memes,
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new pieces of information are injected into the collective and
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they spread. And if you think about a meme, when
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a meme goes viral, they always do.
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The word viral almost like a sort of parasite or
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a sickness or something viral when you go viral, Well,
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in my opinion, I think it'd be a lot easier.
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Let's say that the world is run by a cultist
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that are maybe lizard people, maybe not right, who knows,
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is run by a cultist and they're injecting constant information
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and constant ideas well. In my opinion, it's more effective
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if it is mimetic in nature and by memes, I'm
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talking about sigils. And this is where chaos magic comes
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into play. Where chaos magic is a almost like an
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open source system if you will, and I don't know
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if you're familiar, like open source systems where you're able
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to go in and tweak it on your own. Well,
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essentially that's what what chaos magic is. It's open ended
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in a way, and as long as you believe it,
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belief is the key.
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Chaos magic is kind of like the mma of magical practices,
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where it kind of integrates a little bit of each
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discipline into it and you just take what you want
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from it, right pretty much.
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And that's where again, that's where you get Kenneth Grant's work,
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where they incorporate Again, dude, I'm a weirdough so I
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love love crafty and stuff. I love all the weird
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cthulhu mythos and these occult is bro these grown these
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grown people, these adults are taking these made up entities
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that were presented to Lovecraft in his dream state, which
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dream lands are a real place. I think that's a
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real landscape. I think that when we go to sleep,
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it's an altered state of consciousness. And if you're able
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to really tap into that, I think that's where people
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can astro project or you have out of body experiences,
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which I've tried astral projection, and I can't make it
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happen purposefully, like not purposefully on purpose, right, I can't
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make it happen. How some people are like, oh, I
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was able to travel to wherever and go here and
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there and all that stuff. I'm not able to do that.
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a long time, probably a year, year and a half,
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but there was a period of my when I first
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started podcasting, actually where I was having sleep paralysis nightly,
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like it was like a weird thing, and it happened
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so frequently that I was able to I already knew
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how to get out of it as soon as it
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would happen. And I haven't had it happen like a
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probably a year, year and a half. But and I
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didn't experience like the old hag sitting on your chest
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or anything I ever shadow people A lot of people
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say what I experienced was the sense of dread, so
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the sense that something is going to happen and there
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might be something there. But I never saw anything. I
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never saw any visuals or anything. Okay, So back again,
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Lovecraft has presented this mythos through his dreams and these
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groups the typhon you know teo, which is an option
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of the oh Teo they adopt, and the reason behind
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is you're able to adopt that god or that entity
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or that deity for your for your procedure, for your operation,
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for that one time, and then you chuck it out. That,
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in my opinion, is really dangerous because think about all
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the things that were being exposed to following this chaos.
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Magic doctrine. That is the Super Bowl for exp for
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one example, and that's that that was recent this past weekend,
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the Superbowel. They do all this crazy ritual stuff one time, boom,
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and then as soon as they're wrapped up there, they
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just chalk it out the window and they've already worked
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their way into your subconscious. They've already implanted all these symbols,
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all these things into your subconscious and they're there working
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again like a mimetic parasite or something like that. And
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the reason this is important is because it's always been
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a war for information. You know, Alex Jones has been
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right since the very beginning. It's it's an info war.
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If you think about you, if we go to the
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very beginning, right, no matter what your cosmology is, what
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your belief system is, it goes back to the idea
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of information. What happened in the Garden of Eden. Let's
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just use the Christian point of view. What happened in
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the Garden of Eden. God said, you can do whatever
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you want here in this other dimension, this other realm
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where you have all these you're in this garden. You
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can do whatever you want. Just don't do one thing.
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Just don't do one thing. Don't eat from that tree
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right there, bro, And you can do anything else. It's like, well,
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why can't I eat from that you that's the tree
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of what of knowledge? Of good and evil? Right, So
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don't eat from that tree. And once they took the
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first bite from that app from that, well, we always
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attribute it to the apple, right, never specifically said it's
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an apple. They say it's a fruit. They don't say
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which fruit. But it's interesting that we always attributed to
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the apple. The apples have worms, right, worms or parasites.
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A Darwin, the father of evolution, studied worm for thirty
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nine years.
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Bro.
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He said, man is nothing but a worm, So what
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is he? What is he getting at there? And by
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the idea that we are all, you know, we come
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from a worm? M Like, I don't know that. That's
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kind of odd there, right, Maybe Illuminati parasites of some sort.
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Maybe the right, these the when they entered the daughters
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of men, maybe it was a sort of possession or parasite,
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if you will, right, because we always think of like, oh,
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look at these nephelin with their huge nephylom dicks, you know,
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entering themselves into these women. It's like what if it
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wasn't like that, What if it was more of a
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possession type of thing, like like twin peaks. You know,
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possession is a possession, doesn't discriminate, Okay. So it's always
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been about knowledge of some sort some occult knowledge that
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the powers that be you don't want you to have, Okay,
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So what a better way than to spread knowledge through
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the use of these schituls, these Internet memes. And it's
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interesting because right speaking on Alex Jones speaking on Trump
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and the whole Kech movement and all that stuff. That's
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a frog, Right, Alex Jones is known for what let
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me let me play the clip here real quick. Then
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I'm putting chemicals in the water. They turn the frigging
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frogs day. So Alex Jones, who is also a meme, right,
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Trump is a meme. Alex Jones is a meme. These
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are and again maybe they this is part of like
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this chaos magician archetype, this gesture archetype, if you will,
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like these characters that are here to disrupt reality, to
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cause a sort of unrest, because these are explosive characters.
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If you look at it. Trump is an explosive like
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people either love them or they hate them Alex Jones.
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People either love them or they hate them, right, depending
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on which setting that they're in. So the frogs. It's
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interesting because and the reasoning why I think that the
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internet meme is an evolution of the magic square. The
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first magic square was introduced to the Emperor on the
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back of a turtle shell. Okay, And this legend goes
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back I think to like somewhere BCE, and this emperor
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was sitting next to this body of water and this
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turtle floated up and he saw on its back, right,
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this square and magic squares first started with numbers, right,
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So you have the Pythagoreans. Numbers have always been giving
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this right, this methesis, this mystical view. Right, numbers, the matrix.
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They kind of sort of control reality. Everything's mathematical, the
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Fibonacci sequence, all these different things. And then there was
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an evolution because the magic square went from letters from
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numbers to then letters. So you had letterism introduced there.
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You had the idea of charging it with sigil's words, right,
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grammar grimmore. It all comes from the same place where
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you're casting a spell, you're spelling things. You're here. It's
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a vibration, even if it's not right. I think that
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writing is a sort of divinatory device, which we're going
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to get into some chaos magicians who believed that exact
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thing and they used it. And so the evolutional magic squore.
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You have numbers, letters, letterism, and then in my opinion,
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it's it's shifted over to right, more of a pictorial magic.
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and look at the pictures. And why is that. Well,
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picture horror magic, they understood that pictures had more of
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an effect on people, a longer lasting effect than texted.
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That's why in these cathedrals they painted all this iconography
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and these symbols, Okay, because they had on the lower
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class that couldn't read, they had what they had to
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look at the pictures, and that to them was their
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divine experience. Okay. And they here you get into Semilacer
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and simulation where the worship of the image comes into place,
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where people start worshiping this statue of Jesus as if
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it were Jesus. Well, that's not that's a representation, that's
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a semilacrum of the deity. Doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
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I think that it's centralized itself and landed. I think
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there's a simplification of this magical system. And that's again
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that's dangerous because that gives them that much more reach
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and accessibility to the general public than they normally would.
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the ceremonial stuff, which they still do, like the super
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Bowl and all these different things. Right, they still kind
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of sort of do that, but now it's like it's
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it's a dumbed down version where it's much more simple
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and they can access people quicker, means everyone collects memes.
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It's kind of like an evolution in a way, even
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though it's more simple. Like you said, when we first
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got on, everything seems to be moving faster in all
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aspects of our reality. Including of course this technology which
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is advancing exponentially as we see it unfold, and the
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advent of the memes and the the emotion and therefore
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the reactions that these memes are causing is becoming more exponential,
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and the outcome are going to become more exponential, and
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they're going to advance, and it's to become bigger and
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bigger of a thing. And it's so interesting to see
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how it evolves and how when we become more aware
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of it, how it interacts with that awareness as well.
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animal aspect of it and the reason why it's interesting
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the whole Kech, which was whole thing and I don't
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know if you remember the documentary with Shyla buff I
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think it was He Will Not Divide Us. I think
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it was, and I haven't. I didn't see that. Let's say,
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you gotta watch that that that documentary. Bro It's wild.
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But Kech was one of those things where you have
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the frog symbolism, right, and allegedly that's connected to this
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god of chaos and the Egyptian pantheon. But there's something
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how you're saying interacting with the with the thing and
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how it becomes alive in some sort of way. And
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if you really look at that like information, it is
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a sort of life form. And that's essentially right, We're
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gonna get into you just like opened up the floodgates.
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Or if you look at the idea of the Gnostics, right,
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speaking of christian and all this stuff, the Gnostics, according
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to Dickie, a gnosticism, was that they were in touch
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with In the first chapters of the Gospel of John,
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the Word became flesh and dwelled among us, right, people say, oh,
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that's Jesus, whatever it is. Well, in Dickie gnocissism, that
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was the idea that the logos was a sort of
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parasite and once you came into contact with it, you
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were forever, I don't want to say infected, but you were.
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You were changed by it. And the reason that the
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Gnostics were knocked out and wiped away because usually these
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groups are speaking a sort of truth even in this community,
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I'm not gonna call it community, but in this in
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this realm, this, this this sphere or globe of things,
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just to pis some people off they you know there
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we always talk about being shadow band or taking off
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x platform or whatever other platform, because we're speaking something
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that the powers that be don't like. The Gnostics were
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speaking against something that the powers that be didn't like
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at the time. Now mainstream history will tell you, well,
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they were heretics. The Church didn't like the heresy or
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the blasphemy, so therefore they wiped them out right because
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they needed this canon, they needed this cosmology to be solidified. Well,
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according to Dick in Narcissism, he believed that they were
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in touch with this logos, the living logos, and he's
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got a name for I forgot the name of it.
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And if you want to learn about this, just read
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read Vallast by Philip K. Dick. And this helped push
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the Gnostics into the next evolutionary phase of humanity. That so,
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the the Gnostics and the alchemists, because they were it
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was coming out at the same time. They were trying
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to push human evolution to the next step through the
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interaction with this information. And that was the whole Nagamadi
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Dead Sea scrolls where that information was frozen in time
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and that's why it was hidden, and whoever interacted with
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that information was going to get this revelation of wanting
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to again push humankind forward in this evolutionary scale, whatever
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it was. And that's what the alchemists were trying to
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do with all these elixirs. And there's stories of these
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transmutations of where they were drinking these concoctions and their
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hair was falling out, their nails or falling out, their
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teeth were falling out, and they were in some stories
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they grew back their nails, they grew back their hair,
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and they were renewed. And that's how you get these
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stories of the immortal alchemists's like, so were the gnostics
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in contact with some sort of information that granted them
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immortality that pushed them to come together and again come
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up with the concoctions too if it is a concoction,
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because alchemy is again an interdimensional topic where there's the
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metaphorical allegorical rout of things and there's the physical work
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of things, right, So, and it's interesting because it all
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comes back to the idea of this information and there's
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a and if you look at the history of these
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apocryphal texts, they sat forever before they were even translated.
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They sat for like thirty years or something before they
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they were even translated, like what do you are you
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trying to hide something? And that's why you waited so
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long for them to be translated, And what was all
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that pushback in it? If you really if you read
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John Marco Allegro, he was one of the one of
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the guys that helped translate those texts, but he was
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also talking about how there was like a pushback to
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translate them. It's like, what were they occulting from the
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public that they didn't want them to find out. Now, again,
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that's this whole speculation that could be considered a conspiracy.
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But we're going back to the interaction with some sort
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of living information. If you will, right, something that is moving,
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and I've heard it put before that the occult, this
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phenomenon when you're looking at it and you think that
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you're figuring it out, it'll morph right in front of you.
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It'll change right in front of you. And so this
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is where the familiar aspect comes in of the animals.
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So you have Alex Jones talking about the frogs, right, Well,
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you have kech Is a frog the first and again
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there's a whole bunch of other examples I can't remember
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right now, but the first magic square was introduced on
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the back of a turtle. And the reason for this
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being is because shamanism plays a role into this whole
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aspect of things, where the simulation, if you will, talks
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to the shaman in the form of these different familiars
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or animals or entities or whatever it is. And I'm
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sure you've experienced something like that talking about your dog
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men encounters and your Bigfoot people. You know, like there's
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something to that where maybe these entities that is dog
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Man or Bigfoot or whatever are Again, I don't I'm
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not gonna go out and say that they're trying to
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present some sort of esoteric information to people. But have
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you heard anything about that, like Bigfoot trying to relay
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some dude.
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Yes, I think this is gonna get us.
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Man.
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This may take up the rest of the show here
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we're about to get into. But there is layers of
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our reality. There's the physical layer which we interact with,
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and there's something beyond. And I've had plant medicine experiences
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recently where.
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I was shown this.
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The layers outside of ourselves are not only what we
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interact with in the spirit world, but archetypes, thought forms, eggregres,
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things that we collectively created throughout our history that floats
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around in these astral realms and has some sort of
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intelligence and we're able to interact with it in some way. Well,
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put that on hold, keep that in mind for this
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next part that I'm about to get to what we're
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seeing right now and what's happened throughout modern history. Anytime
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there's a movement for the people, something that seems good
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for humanity, the Peace and Love movement, the Hippie movement,
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the truth movement, they're all eventually co opted, infiltrated, and
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steered in a completely different direction to have a different
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desired outcome. Now you mentioned Alex Jones, some of the
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other bigger players, Tucker Carlson. Could it be possible that
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these players are being re inserted into our communities and
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propped up once again so that they can steer us
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and once again create culture, this time conspiracy culture, and
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steer it in a direction to where it'll be more
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beneficial for those in control of it. And that goes
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back to these archetypes we're talking about that may inherit
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world have a different desired outcome for everything that's unfolding.
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Yeah, it's interesting, right, areetypes r cons right, the gnostics.
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We're talking about the arcons and these forces that we're
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trying to manipulate humanity into some other you know, keep
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them compressed in this false matrix, if you Well, that's
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the whole.
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Nuther anything to keep us from becoming tool aware of things, right.
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Which again, some people will listen to this, and I
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don't know if I've made any sense since we started,
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but some people will listen to this and be like, oh,
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this is all nonsense. But think about it, think about
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it back then, Okay, and by back then, let's let's
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go to an example and you can read about this
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in there's a book called architect as Magician. And I
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forgot the gentleman's name. His name was Albert doctor Albert
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something or there. Anyways, I'll find his name later. But
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in this book he goes and he breaks. I've always
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been fascinated with the idea of magic, and not magic
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in the sense of like aberkadabra type of stuff, but
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magic in the sense of I think it's been dogmatized,
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if you will, or tainted the word magic because people
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think of Harry Potter and all this stuff, or even Crowley.
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But even Crawley, even though I hate him with all
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my being, I think he contributed some aspects that are
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that are beneficial. That's why, and this is why I
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read all cosmologies and I want to understand everything from
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all perspectives. And I do have a Christian background, and
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I do reserve my own beliefs, but I'm opening enough
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to listen to people who have opposing beliefs to other
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than me. And magic in the I'm talking about magic
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in the sense of putting yourself in a state of mind. Okay. Now,
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some people say, oh, you're manifesting when you put yourself
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in a state of call it whatever you want to
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call it, putting yourself in a state of mind to
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bring forth a change. And that can be applied to anything,
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and not even in the wu Wu sense. If you
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apply yourself to get a project done regardless, you know,
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take the occult in the esoteric out. If you apply
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yourself and focus on a task that you need to do,
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you will get that test done. Okay. So that kind
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of sort of way, now we can bring in all
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the Wogle stuff. So the architect as magician at the
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very beginning, he's talking about the power that the architects
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had back then, and you know there's the during the Renaissance,
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they had a sort of magical perspective, and if you
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think about the pen as a sort of wand well
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they found they would find drawings of animals in these caves.
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So these these these first societies, if you will, I'm
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not going to put a date on it, but old
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societies that were stolen caves, they would draw pictures of
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certain animals in the area in order to manifest those animals.
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So in the next hunt they would find those animals
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and come across them. So it was a sort of
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magical practice of if I draw this and I do
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my ceremony again through sometimes through the use of shamans
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or whatever, they would do these ceremonies. They would invoke
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and draw these images of these animals to bring them
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in their next harvest and their hunt whatever. So again
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this is these are beliefs that people have had for
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a very long time. And what I'm trying to convey
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is that because some people are skeptics nowadays, like oh,
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this doesn't matter, Well, it's been ingrained in our history
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and our humanity since the very beginning. There's a reason
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why all these gods and goddesses exist, even if they're
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all fake and gay, or they're part of these archetypes
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or part of whatever. Right, there's something how you mentioned
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there's layers to this reality, and I think that some
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of these symbols or icons hold that key. Now, some
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people say it's all astrological, could very well be all
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astrologe who knows. But there's a reason why these symbols exist,
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and I think that there is a layer of reality
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that can be manipulated through the use of the mind.
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There's a reason why they want, right, they just started
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the newest neuralink human trials. People are freaking out because
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everyone's wearing the little goggle Apple Vision whatever, and people
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are going around driving cars with this thing on. So
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they want to put us into another They want to
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overlay another reality on top of our reality. And by
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the time you know it, you have these goggles over you. No,
489
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I'm in another reality. And while I'm this in reality,
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I play a game, I go I go into VR chat.
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That's another reality that I'm going into. So it's they're
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like the Russian dolls, are you know, nested dolls where
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it's homunculous all the way down, turtles all down, it's
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you know, the dolls all the way down, if you will.
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And so you have this idea of all right, so
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interacting with the information. We've talked about it, shamans and
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these new concepts. According to some they're introduced into society
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by these familiar spirits which take the form of animals.
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And it's very funny that you know, to use Alex
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Jones again, which one hundred percent agree with you, bro.
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I think that's some of these people in this community,
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not community of space.
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Even whether they know it or not. Maybe they're not
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even aware, but something, some energy, some is propelling them.
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To do so well, think about it, Chris, think about it.
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Alex Jones is a character. If you think of any actor,
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any actor is invoking something to go into them. You
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can't tell me that Alex Jones is like that one
509
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hundred percent of the time. That dude's a character, you
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know what I'm saying. Like they're invoking something when they
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get in that state of mind. And even even I
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do it. You know, when I'm as a host, you
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need to host a certain type of way. And so
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not that I'm a different person, but I do act differently,
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we act differently while we're on here. You know what
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I'm saying, Like, we have to make it entertaining for
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the people, So there's a certain way you have to.
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I consider it almost channeling certain types of energies whenever
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you're in a state of mind, whenever I'm trying to
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be creative in certain ways. If I am like concentrating
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on doing that and things that I've done in the
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past and trying to think it over too much, it
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doesn't work. The energy doesn't flow. But if I just
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let myself connect to something, it's like it's still me,
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but it's more of a free flowing thought process and
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creative process, you.
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Know, absolutely, And I wouldn't call it channeling me personally, Chris.
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You know, I want to keep my butt out of stuff,
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you know. I don't like these internmentional entities trying to
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crawl up in there. But I get what you're saying.
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When you're in this, when you're in this flow state
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where things come and I personally, I use the mind
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palace concept where you build a structure in your mind
534
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and you put the information that you want to remember
535
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in these different compartments or these different rooms within that
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mind palace, and you're able to go you know, as
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you're having a conversation, you're able to go in through
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this mind palace and go into every room and interact
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with the information in there. Now, that's a memory technique,
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right if you will, that people have used since for
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a very long time now. But the idea of information right,
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one interesting concept that to bring in the letterism of it. Right,
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the we talked about Lovecraft, we talked about these entities
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on the other side, rather the arcons or whatever they are.
545
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These things are that because you bring up a good
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point where maybe do these people know that they're interacting
547
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with something or something is interacting with them? How that
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one the story hell goes you know, are you meddling
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with Goaisha? No, I'm not. And then and then you know,
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the guy answers curly like, well, Goisha has been meddling
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with you type of thing like oh, you know, like
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reverse card, here's my trap card. It's like, oh, whoa.
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So I think that there is a lot of reality
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that's like that, where there are things outside trying to
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influence the people here. Okay, because look at King Charles.
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You think King Charles knows all the stuff that we
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talk about.
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Bro.
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You think you think he knows about dog Man or
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about magic squares. Hey, maybe he does. Maybe he who knows,
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Maybe he does. Maybe it is like the squid games
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where they sit behind this glass and they make people
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fight for the money, and they put these masks on
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and they do all these other heinous stuff behind the scenes,
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like who knows, right, But the the idea of letters,
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So there's a reason why they want to they want
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to separate us. So we talked a little bit about
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magic squares, the evolution of the internet meme, which, how
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you said, invokes of feeling in people. It can either
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make you laugh, it can make you angry, it can
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make you sad. And all it is is a picture
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and some text. That's all. It is, that simple, and
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people collect them. They collect them like pokemon and gotta
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collect them all. It's like how many how many memes
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you got in your phone right now? I know people
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who would delete pictures and video and stuff to get
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more memes in their phone. They want more memes. So again,
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00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:52.680
it's something weird about the meme and letters. I recently
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did an episode on geometry for excess for accessing intermediary
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intermediary beings. Now, if you look at they want to
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take us away from what. They want to take us
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away from writing. I don't how much stuff have you written,
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bro in the last week? Okay, today's Thursday.
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Well, I am very conscious to write. I have a
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notepadent notebook during every show, and I'm constantly writing notes
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during every show. So at least I'm doing that. And
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when I'm writing pieces for my films and stuff, I
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always try and use a notepad and pens, so I
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try and stay connected to that.
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Oh well, you're a boud example then, Chris, But anyone
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else listening right now, think about the last time you
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wrote something, right when they taught us cursive in school
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and I was stuff. Well, to me, they want to
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push us more into this electronic age by typing away.
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Everyone's typing all these symbols. If you look at it,
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letters are geometry, they are lines, they're dot there's things
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that were created. Now if you think of a grim war,
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which is where the word grammar come from, well, it
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is the use of grammar in this grim war that
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outlines these recipes, these magical operations. Okay, so there's something
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to be said about that that the and this can
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apply to any language. It's the geometry that you're using.
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Look at John Diebert Kelly. They were using geometry to
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invoke these entities on the other side and to talk
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to these entities on the other side. Now there are
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writers such as William Burrows that use writing as a
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sort of divinatory device. And I recently talked to a
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William Burrows essultericist Tommy Cowan, who's written about William Burrows
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using the cut up method. And the cut up method
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is a method that is used by William Burrows. The
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other guy's name is Geyson, and I'm sure other people
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have used it too before. And what it is is
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you take a in texts, you cut it up and
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you form new sentences out of the already written pieces. Now,
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the reasoning that William Burrows used this was because he
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believed that, well, he believed a lot of things, but
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one of the ones was that he was being haunted
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by a demon since he was very little and he
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was close to possession, so he was trying to fight possession.
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Another one was that if the demi urge has already
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written out reality and already knows everything that's going to happen. Well,
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he know, of I'm taking this text that's already been written,
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has he predicted the random sequence that I'm putting it
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together in. So he looked at it as a sort
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of glitch in the matrix in a way to get
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the you know, for lack of a better get the
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demi urge off his track so he wouldn't kill him
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in the end or whatever it was. And so he
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uses this in his writing. And if you read his writing,
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it's very discombobulated, right naked lunch, It's it's incoherent. And
631
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the reason was because he was using this cut up method. Now,
632
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the interesting part about that is that when you're reading this,
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I don't know if you've ever read a book where
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you're reading, you start, your mind starts to wander, you
635
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start to remember. You go, damn, I gotta read that
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again because I completely miss what I you know, these
637
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two paragraphs I just read. I got to start over
638
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because I don't remember anything. Well, that writing is meant
639
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to do specifically that, but it doesn't stop there, because
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it's meant to put you in an altered state of
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consciousness and transport your consciousness to somewhere else. Because the
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story will stop to make sense, and then you're dropped
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off somewhere in the story where it starts to make
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sense because he's either stopped the cut up method and
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now you're in this other realm, this other state. Now.
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The reasoning why he used this in his writing is because,
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and you can look this up for yourself, he wanted
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to obliterate the consciousness of the reader and mind you.
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This is.
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One of the most well known chaos magicians, Okay, William Burrows,
651
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which if you read his work again, it's one of
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these characters where you don't know why they're famous, but
653
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they are, and their work is very disgusting. Right. But again,
654
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some people say that about Crowley, like, oh, it's disgusting
655
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on purpose, it's disgusting to get you off the track,
656
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so it weeds people out. It's like, no, it's garbage,
657
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you know, like a lot of it is garbage. But
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the people will gaslight you into believing a cosmology by
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making you believe that you're not smart enough to comprehend
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set cosmology. Say, oh no, Chris, you're just not smart
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enough to understand and grasp the wisdom of this story.
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That's why it doesn't make any sense to you. It's like, no,
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if I think something is dumb, and I think if
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I think something is fake and gay, I want to
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tell you it's fake and gay. You know what I'm saying, Like,
666
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I don't care what you gotta say about it. But
667
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this guy was using that method to One of the
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reasonings also that he had it was he wanted people
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to fight. And this blew my mind when I learned this.
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And this was on the episode that with Tommy Comwell
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which is not out yet, but he talked about it
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because he wanted people to help him fight his enter
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demons in some sort of weird way, right. And he
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also believed that by writing something out, the more detailed,
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the less the thing that you write about was gonna happen. Now,
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the reason I say this is because there was a
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murder that happened between him and some friends. And I
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talk about William Burrows and somewhere else, and you can again,
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you can do your own research on this. You know,
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people listening, But they wrote a book on the murder
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that happened, right, and they detailed everything out. They detailed
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this characters you know, there was people modeled after the
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characters modeled after the real people, right, which this has
684
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seen a lot in the occult like the story moon
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Child I always talking about with Crowley, where I don't
686
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think that was a story. I think that was that
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happened for real, And a lot of people in that
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story are modeled after true occultists in the real world. Okay,
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so there's something about writing and solidifying these timelines and
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these alternate realms, if you will. So they write this
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story about the murder of their friends, of their friend
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and the character and the story goes to jail and
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all this other craziness. Well, he believed that if they
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were able to write this story out, they would somehow
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skip out from having to go to jail for that murder,
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because they use this writing as a sort of way
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of getting out of it. Again, just weird stuff. But
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when you start to look back, you go, wait a minute. Well,
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Parsons and his friends, the suicide Squad also wrote stories
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that came true. Right. There was a story that they
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wrote where one of the guys, well Parson's main character
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that was modeled after him, blow himself up. Well, it
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turns out that Parsons Parsons also blow himself up, Like
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like wait, a minute, one of the guys was extradited
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to China. Well, it turns out one of the guys
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was actually extra outed to China and became the dictator,
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communist leader's main guy for rocketry at the time. For missiles,
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it was like mao or something like something crazy, right,
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So they had written a story about it. So these
710
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.960
occultis who are using these stories or grim wars, if
711
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:33.840
you will, And it goes back to the use of
712
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.920
these books that lay out magical operations through the use
713
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.679
of grammar. So you need the words in order for
714
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.239
you to have the operations they need to do, you
715
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.960
know what I'm saying. So there's a link between and
716
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.679
this has always fascinated me, where there's books that have
717
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.840
resonated throughout reality itself and by that take any ancient scripture.
718
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.159
Let's talk about it. And again I'm not trying to
719
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.159
say this to disprove anyone's cosmology, anyone's beliefs, but a
720
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:08.280
lot of these main the most major religions, they're all
721
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:13.599
propped up by what by writing that was very old.
722
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.920
That's that's it. What else we got? Yes, you know
723
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.360
what I'm saying, Like, tell me what else we got?
724
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.559
They've they're all goes back to literature.
725
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:23.519
It does.
726
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:27.280
But think about this in our modern times. Now we
727
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:31.440
have cinema in film and symbolism that we can actually
728
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.960
take in with our eyes to perpetuate this information and
729
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.559
the go of information. So we're in a whole new
730
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:40.079
era of magic now.
731
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.400
Well that's the evolution of the magical system. Okay, So
732
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.559
if you think about it, I always wondered, right in
733
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.039
twenty twenty, when that thing hit, why what became what?
734
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.519
What became a mean stock well? Game stop became a
735
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.800
means a meme? Stop right? A mean stock right? I
736
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.079
made a bunch of money off of that. Also, what
737
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.480
became another means amc became a meaning stock?
738
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:07.079
Well?
739
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.639
What's amc? AMC? Are theaters? Right? We kept the theaters
740
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.000
afloat when everything was shut down? Now during the Great Depression,
741
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.360
which wasn't great at all. In my studies of Zis
742
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.199
which during the nineteen thirties was the first depiction of
743
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.960
the zombie. White Zombie was the movie. It was very,
744
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.360
very racist too, the movie. But point being that a
745
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.000
lot of things were born during the Great Depression, King Kong,
746
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.719
white Zombie, Dracula, what else a whole bunch of other stuff,
747
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:49.119
a whole bunch like the the Werewolf movies, Frankenstein. The
748
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.239
Hollywood pantheon was born during the Great Depression. I go,
749
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.760
that's interesting, because why is it that during this time
750
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.519
where there was this content age and that spread throughout
751
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.920
all the the markets, that's what they called it, a contagion.
752
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.519
How is it that they were able to come together
753
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.840
and make all these movies. Where was the money coming
754
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.440
from for these movies? Well, it turns out people were
755
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:19.440
going to the movie theaters for a form of escapism.
756
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.840
People's lives are such garbage that they were going to
757
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.840
the movies to live the lives of the characters that
758
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.719
were being portrayed in these screens. Well, and it doesn't
759
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.320
stop there. If you look at the idea of a cinema,
760
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.079
a movie theater, well, not only is it a simulacrum
761
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.760
of a cave, which we know secret societies use caves
762
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:48.320
for various reasons, right represents the womb. But also I
763
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.280
even had Jay Widner on tell me that you know,
764
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.880
as a director, the use of cinema, the use of
765
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.760
these movie theaters is a very potent and effective form
766
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.000
of a kultrum m hm, So think about it. We go,
767
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.840
we go voluntarily, usually at night in the dark, very
768
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.360
secret society. Yes are you going in there? And you're
769
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.920
you're getting flashed essentially a bunch of sigils in continuation
770
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.800
with one another right in front of our eyes. And
771
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.800
everyone was freaking out recently with the that Leave the
772
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.159
World Behind movie with the Obamas, What a bizarre movie,
773
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:26.360
you know.
774
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.159
Said everyone was a frequency expert on that said they
775
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.760
had some sort of subsonic frequency that was overlaid to
776
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.320
the background of the music. That's crazy, man.
777
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.599
I had somebody call in to my show and tell
778
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.840
me something about that. I had seven different tracks or something,
779
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.480
one of them being a sub hurtz or something or
780
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.599
other where they were using again. And it all goes
781
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.119
back to, in my opinion, the use of frequencies, and
782
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.800
Nikola Tesla think of in terms of vibrations and frequencies
783
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.639
and maybe, dude, maybe who knows. Because I'm a skeptic too,
784
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.599
bro Like, I'm a skeptic, and that's why I do
785
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.639
all the research that I do because I am a skeptic.
786
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.159
So I want to figure out the truth through the research.
787
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.639
I don't want somebody to just tell me because they
788
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.639
you know, this is the truth. Because of this, I say, well,
789
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.480
where are your sources? I want to read those sources.
790
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:18.800
You know what I'm saying, and I want to pull
791
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.480
it for myself to see my interpretation of it. And
792
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:27.199
so some people say, no I had. I had a
793
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:32.000
person that I know doing an interview with the ex
794
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.800
son in law of Anton LaVey, okay, x son in
795
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.159
law of Anton LaVey. He was forgets his name, Andy
796
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.880
Shrek or something like that, like Andrew Shrek or something
797
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.719
or other, and he brought me up in conversation and
798
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.000
he said, hey, you know, Juan believes that the elites
799
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.960
are using this occult symbolism to have some control over people.
800
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.000
And I got called an idiot indirectly by the x
801
00:45:58.119 --> 00:45:59.840
son in law of Anton LaVey. He didn't call he
802
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.960
didn't say Juan is an idiot. He said it's idiotic
803
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.079
to think that the elite would use the symbolism to
804
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:09.280
exert some sort of power over the population. It's like, wait,
805
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.679
what like x Satan is saying that No, no, no,
806
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.800
we don't. They don't. If I was an elite and
807
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.599
I was in the no, I'd be like, yeah, of
808
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.599
course that's fake news. We would they would never do that,
809
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.280
They would never use this symbol, the symbolism to exert
810
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.639
some sort of power over the population. Like, no way,
811
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.840
that's idiotic. That Juan Guy's an idiot, you know what
812
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.840
I'm saying, Like that's a dumb way of thinking. Which, sure,
813
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:39.519
some people are anti conspiracy, anti anything there. Some people
814
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.480
are atheists, or some people subscribe to other cosmologies that
815
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.360
make more more sense to them. Just fine, But I
816
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.440
believe that it all goes back to some sort of
817
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.559
occult mk ultra if you will, where they're programming the
818
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:58.719
masses through either letterism, a thesis which is a mystical
819
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:05.480
approach to mathematics, or some other Rockefeller Institute, you know,
820
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.639
funded institute from the very beginning system, whatever it is.
821
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.960
You know what I'm saying. I do think that John
822
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.559
b Rockefeller was in the know about some things. I mean,
823
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.159
there's a reason why he picked his house the cottage
824
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.679
at Jeckyl Island, you know, on top of the old
825
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.559
sacrificial mound. I'm sure that's just a conspiracy too. It's
826
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.599
like what was birth there? Oh, the creature of Jeckyl Island.
827
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.599
You know, when I first had heard about the I'm like, oh, homunculus,
828
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.480
the creature of Jeckel. Well, kind of sort of. A
829
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.079
corporation is an artificially created persons through a group of people.
830
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:45.320
That's the definition of corporation. Artificially created person, artificial created
831
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.920
person through the use of through the use of a
832
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.280
group of people. Put that in your in your pipe
833
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.320
and smoke that, Chris, I mean, that's that. That's the Definitely,
834
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.519
you can even take that to a larger scale.
835
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:02.440
Look at neurallink, artificial creation of a connected intelligence.
836
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:09.079
Possibly. I don't know anyone who would subscribe themselves to that. Again,
837
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.400
I think you'd really have to be some sort of
838
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.880
an idiot to do that to yourself, because for all
839
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.440
the movies listen, dude, all the movies that we've ever
840
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.199
written about, all the stuff that we've talked about about
841
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.880
the right AI. Everyone talks about AI. And I've done
842
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.320
an episode on this show where I've talked about technology
843
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.280
and the occult and how the people who started the
844
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.679
computer were involved with secret societies and they were doing seances,
845
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.599
they were trying to do blood packs with the devil.
846
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.960
You got to take that into account. You can't just
847
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.440
brush you can't brush that off. There's a reason Isaac
848
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:50.559
Newton bro you know, they want to nitpick his history.
849
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:55.039
It's like Bro, he was he was studying Revelation, he
850
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.039
was doing commentaries on Revelation. He was obsessed with the apocalypse.
851
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.679
He was also obsessed with with Solomon's temple. He was
852
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.760
doing drawings and diagrams of King Solomon's temple. This dude
853
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.079
was steeped into the occult. This dude was so far
854
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.559
into the occult. And like, no one talks about that,
855
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.079
you know, no one talks about how what Maybe he
856
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:16.760
was a made up person, maybe not whatever. One of
857
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.320
the arguably smartest people that there is was talking about
858
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.320
the occult, that there's something more to it.
859
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:23.760
Now.
860
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.920
You touched on a good point with the mk Ultra
861
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:33.519
and it shows right this evolution of media. First we
862
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:37.400
had books, then we had the radio. And I think
863
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.519
that audio is more powerful and more potent than video.
864
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.199
And the reason for that being is because with audio
865
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.079
you could quite literally do anything. You could take the
866
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.519
person's imagination and put it anywhere you want. Look at
867
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.480
the War of the World skit that they did one time,
868
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.159
I think it was in the early nineteen something, right
869
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.199
where people were calling in because they thought that were
870
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.719
really aliens trying to take over the world, and it
871
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.800
was a drama that they were doing. It was a
872
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:12.320
show that they were doing, and it's like people believe that. Unfortunately,
873
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.639
there's people who would probably believe it even today if
874
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.280
the same thing was to happen, because I think that
875
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.679
part of this whole thing, there's a lot of people
876
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.119
who are open to it, and there's even more people
877
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.159
who are so obsessed with how things are going to
878
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.679
end that they kind of sort of bring it forth.
879
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.239
They helped bring it forward, you know what I'm saying,
880
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.239
Like there's so many people who want to know how
881
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.679
it ends, like they're so obsessed with the end times,
882
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.360
and these books don't help, like these these this ancient
883
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.440
scripture doesn't help. Because if anything ends up happening, look
884
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.800
at the new president of Venezuela or Argentina whatever, the
885
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:57.079
Javier guy who was a tantric sex teacher by the way,
886
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.440
and had like resurrected his dog or something because he
887
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.280
believed that his dog was like something magical with his dog.
888
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:05.199
Have you heard about that?
889
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:05.519
No?
890
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.679
I did not hear about that. Now you pull this
891
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:11.199
up so I can read it to you, bro. So
892
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:17.599
Xavier Xavier Mali or whatever his name Malay uh, sex
893
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:23.559
tantric instructor, we get my other keyboard. So there you go,
894
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:30.280
sex ex tantric sex coach. So and this can this,
895
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.440
this can sec segue us into the cur Law cell workings.
896
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:36.800
He has to do a little bit with this. But
897
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.079
the let's see here, so he was a sex tantric
898
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.920
instructor and also something about his dog. Let me fine
899
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:48.000
here right here. So this is from the New York
900
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:58.079
Post Argentina lex libertarian economist Xavier Malay Milay who cloned
901
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.039
his dog. So, and if you think about it, he's
902
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.400
got the chainsaw too, which is really weird too. So
903
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.280
he cloned his dog, and the reasoning for it was
904
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.599
because let's see here, let me see if I can
905
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:17.639
find it. Anyways, he made and he has made his
906
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:23.760
love of his deceased dog centerpiece populous. Never mind, I
907
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.480
guess there was something I had heard, something about his
908
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.480
dog being like supernatural or something. Anyways, the wow, how
909
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.440
did you just clone your dog? I mean you might
910
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.280
you must have access to some kind of text, your
911
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.079
laboratory or something. All right, here a previous career as
912
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.960
a tantric sex coach and a ghost dog he chats
913
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:48.400
to for advice. There it is right there. This is
914
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:50.519
from the Daily Mail, so you can pull this up
915
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:55.480
and fact check that. But it's interesting. The dog, Yeah,
916
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:59.960
the dog in the faust story at the fausty impact,
917
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.480
which I think we all have as people. This idea
918
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.199
of right, it goes back to knowledge. What are you
919
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.639
willing to do to get this? Not are you willing
920
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:11.880
to sell your soul for this knowledge? And in that story,
921
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:19.239
Mephistophiles presents himself as a dog. Dogs have talking about
922
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:23.360
this idea of these familiar spirits, these animals presenting information
923
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:27.000
to people from the other side. Dogs have an interesting
924
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.679
history in the occult. Some people say that tormented souls
925
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.199
come back as dogs, people who die a violent death
926
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.760
come back as dogs. There's a reason why dog is
927
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.480
God backwards. I mean, that's a thing too. I've also
928
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.960
heard that point on saying I'm not saying that God
929
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.800
is a dog, but again there's something to that, right
930
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:53.679
and also the concept I think, I think if you
931
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.159
look at all these elites that have dogs, and also
932
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.440
I'm sure Trump hates dogs, does it? He hates dogs?
933
00:53:59.440 --> 00:53:59.760
I don't know.
934
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.679
I don't know about that one. Trump hates dogs, Yeah
935
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.320
he does. Here's what that tells us about him. So
936
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.679
he hates dogs apparently. I don't know why, but maybe
937
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.719
it's because he's and that's a red flag for me.
938
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.960
I don't know anybody hates dogs. Well, you have Joe
939
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.719
Boiden with a black shaggy dog too. I think it
940
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:21.400
was and it just so happens to be that. No,
941
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:23.480
Joe Biden's dog is not a black shaggy dog. It's
942
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:28.199
a German shepherd. But in the Story of Fouls, Mephistopheles
943
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.760
is a black shaggy dog. So anyways, familiars animals and
944
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the occult it is a thing. Oh yeah, is the
945
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.400
reason why? Uh was a saladar Ali walked around with
946
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.239
an ant eater bro sal lei ant eater. He walked
947
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.800
around with a freaking ant eater bro. Yeah yeah, Soga's
948
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:54.079
crazy interesting stuff. So the tantric sex magic, right, the
949
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:59.679
idea of using sex and magical rituals, I mean it.
950
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:06.360
This was back to Crowley Parsons Hubbard and this thing
951
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.880
I learned of recently which was linked to I cover
952
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.400
a lot of Florida history. And I think that there's
953
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.880
something very special about Florida, not because I live here,
954
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:18.880
because I've been in Florida in all my life, but
955
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.199
there's something a cult about Florida. And I've covered this
956
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:29.079
in various episodes. But we recently had the Miami Mall incident.
957
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:34.440
Oh yeah, with these Miami Mall monsters that people were
958
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:38.119
freaking out about. Some people were saying that they were aliens,
959
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.039
some of the people were saying that they were shadow people,
960
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.159
whatever it was. I did an episode on Tony Merkel's
961
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:50.639
show with Isaac Wishaup, Joe Thomas, Justin from Kryptis of
962
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.840
the Corn, and obviously Tony himself, and we went in
963
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.480
and it turns out that Miami is what the Typhony
964
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.880
and Otah in the seventies. I'm pretty sure they still
965
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:08.599
do today call a power zone. Now, a power zone
966
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.519
is a place where you're able and mind you, the
967
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.880
power zones shift depending on the astrological alignments, the seasons,
968
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.639
all this stuff. These I believe these and it makes
969
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.199
sense right. The twelve mile vortices that Avan Sanderson talked
970
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.519
about were these portals around the world, the Bermuda Triangle
971
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.000
being one of them. Okay, we have the Bermuda Triangle
972
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.280
here in Florida. It's the triangle manifestation, the yellnie of
973
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.119
you will you might have Atlantis at the bottom of it,
974
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.199
like all these different crazy stories. Well, the Bermuda Triangle
975
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.400
Miami is one of those points. One of those. Is
976
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.599
it vertices? What do you call a point of a triangle?
977
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.559
Is it a verticing point of a triangle? Let's see
978
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:51.000
here it's called a anyways, I can't find it, but
979
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.679
the point of the triangle. One of them is Florida,
980
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:57.639
the other one is Bermuda. Then there's one in Puerto Rico,
981
00:56:57.719 --> 00:56:59.559
which I'm also from. I was born in Puerto Rico.
982
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.159
And so you have Miami as this power zone. It
983
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:10.639
turns out that in the nineteen eighties the head of
984
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:15.800
the Typhonian Oto was doing a series of sex magic rituals.
985
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:27.239
Now what he wanted to do was invoke in abduction. Okay,
986
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:31.159
and this plays into a lot of things that are
987
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.480
going on nowadays where I believe, well, I'm gonna agree
988
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:38.039
in to it. Diana Pasoka, I think that's her name
989
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.440
that just recently went on Rogan. Her work's very interesting.
990
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:50.199
Where right, yeah, Dinaska? Where She talked about maybe perhaps
991
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:55.000
there being a sort of new UFO religion emerging, right,
992
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.280
because if you think about people who have had experiences,
993
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:58.920
and I'm sure you've talked to more people who've had
994
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.920
abduction experiences than I have, but a lot of people
995
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.719
sometimes they get implants from those experiences. Sometimes people get
996
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:12.320
healed from those experiences, like they're changed now. For anyone
997
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.880
on the outside, they might call the person crazy for
998
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.000
that person. A lot of in my opinion, you have
999
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.079
the whole ce five stuff where it's a sort of
1000
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:26.320
mystical experience. Or when Jesus healed people, he always told
1001
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:28.800
them like, hey, I'm gonna heal you. Right, you're healed now,
1002
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.800
but don't tell anybody, all right, keep us under wraps,
1003
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.559
like what happens when people ask me, just don't worry
1004
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.519
about it. Just go out there. They're gonna see that
1005
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.480
you're healed. You know, I did whatever, but don't don't
1006
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:44.079
tell anyone it was me. And the same way that
1007
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.320
God healed people and people, or Jesus healed people and
1008
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.079
people saw him as the Messiah, as the son of Man,
1009
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:54.079
as the son of God. I'm thinking that people are
1010
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.440
gonna see these UFO encounters that people who are being
1011
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.159
healed as divine, as mystic. And this is where you
1012
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:06.159
get the whole concept of well, these UFOs are interdimensional beings.
1013
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.320
Maybe they're fallen angels, maybe they're angelic in nature, whatever
1014
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:12.159
it is, like, who knows, right. So there's this new
1015
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.679
UFO religion emerging. And this guy Evans is not same
1016
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:22.000
as Evans, Jeffrey Evans. He wanted to invoke an abduction
1017
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:27.079
and he wanted to extract some sort of information from
1018
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.480
that abduction. Turns out they were doing these seances for
1019
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.960
four years nothing three years, four years, nothing happened, and
1020
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:41.119
then April, I think it was April first or something
1021
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:44.719
or there, in nineteen eighty four they induce an abduction.
1022
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.079
Now I left out a few details about this guy.
1023
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:54.079
Number one was that he was a cross dresser. Okay,
1024
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.199
he was, which is fine. You can be a cross stresser.
1025
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.280
You're listening to this. I don't judge you. You do
1026
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:08.119
what you do. But his wife was drive it. I'm
1027
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:09.679
not I want to get too graphic, driving him to
1028
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.320
orgasm right, doing some stuff. He was wrapped up in it.
1029
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.280
He was wrapped up in the in the Dead Men,
1030
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.559
Poe and the Dead man pose, right, which is the
1031
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:18.719
typical you lay on your back and you know, yeah,
1032
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.559
like like mummies, right, So like a mummy. And so
1033
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:26.440
he had some body parts exposed and she was massaging
1034
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.400
it with this magical wand if you get my drift right,
1035
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.159
as he was, she was pretty much edging him into
1036
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.360
because it's all about the orgasm, about driving yourself to
1037
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.440
the point of orgasm. And what they believe is that
1038
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.239
at the point of orgasm you connect with the universe
1039
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.880
if you will, there's a veil that is that has dropped,
1040
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:51.519
and for one second you're able to project your your
1041
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:58.159
desires into the collective, leave it imprinted in on the
1042
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.599
other side of reality, and then when you come back
1043
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:05.079
down from the orgasm, that is imprinted into whatever other
1044
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:09.559
place that is, and once you forget about it, it
1045
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:14.119
comes true. Okay. That's essentially sex magic in a nutshell,
1046
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.159
using the power of the orgasm as a sort of
1047
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:22.480
technology or whatever. And there's various different ways that people
1048
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:26.639
interpret that. That's just one way. And so he was
1049
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:28.920
able to achieve this altered state of consciousness where he
1050
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:34.400
was they induced an abduction and he was taken through
1051
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:38.320
the tunnels of set. Now the Tunnels of set are
1052
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.079
a concept in the cabalistic Tree of life, where if
1053
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:44.880
there's a tree of life, there's a tree of death
1054
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.400
and there's a reason why stranger things. The portal to
1055
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:52.760
the upside down universe b if you will, was on
1056
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:55.360
that tree, and everything on the other side of that
1057
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.480
tree was dark, where there was monsters. It was very ugly,
1058
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.360
just the monic in nature. It's called the cliff off.
1059
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.719
And on this other side there's these tunnels that you're
1060
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:09.360
able to access and go in through these other realms.
1061
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:15.119
And allegedly he traveled through these tunnels and was used
1062
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.760
on the other side by these Lovecraftian great old ones.
1063
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.400
Essentially they ran a train on him, all right, and
1064
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.719
they were using him as a battery of some sort, okay,
1065
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.800
And so he's on the other side right interacting with
1066
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.800
these entities, mind you. And I had a comment the
1067
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:35.639
other day where I was like, why do you keep
1068
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.880
bringing up Lovecraft? It was he was just make believe,
1069
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:41.599
I go tell me you know nothing about Kenneth Grant's work.
1070
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.840
Without telling me you know absolutely nothing about Kenneth Grant's work,
1071
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:48.000
because literally they talk about the Lovecraftian aspect of it,
1072
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:53.960
and so he comes back and turns out he's pregnant.
1073
01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:00.679
This dude is pregnant. Now he's not ignant with a
1074
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:04.519
child or how you see in all these movies whereas
1075
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:06.159
you know it's the son of Satan or the son
1076
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.239
of what. I was like, No, no, no, he was
1077
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:16.440
impregnated with a formula that I've dubbed, you know, numerical parasite.
1078
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.440
He was given a formula that allegedly haven't And this
1079
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.239
is the part that I haven't checked out, is the
1080
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.639
math on this, But it's all related to pie or
1081
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:31.719
fie right, the one point three whatever constant number. And
1082
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.400
essentially what he was told was that there's a secret
1083
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.559
cipher within the Book of liber Al, which is the
1084
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.199
book of the law that Crowley wrote, that there's actually
1085
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:45.280
a secret numerical cipher within that book. Now, this guy
1086
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.719
is as of twenty twenty, was around, and I know
1087
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.400
he did the book that was written about it, the
1088
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:56.400
which is called the cur Law Cell and the Secret
1089
01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:59.679
creed to liber Al Jeffrey d Evans and Peter Lavenda.
1090
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:01.280
So he was I don't have you ever talked to
1091
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:02.000
Leavenda before?
1092
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:02.880
No, I have not.
1093
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:05.039
Have you ever reached out to him?
1094
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.519
I have don't know if I ever got a respons
1095
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:10.519
or if it fell off or anything like, he doesn't
1096
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:11.840
like you, right, maybe.
1097
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:13.840
I don't know.
1098
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.559
I'd be interested to talk though, Yeah, I'd be interested
1099
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.719
in talking talking to him because he wrote this book
1100
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:22.559
with this Jeffrey Evans guy, and he explained it to
1101
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.519
him and a game breaks everything down in this book.
1102
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.639
But essentially what he what he was shown was a
1103
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.960
secret cipher within the Book of the Law, which is
1104
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:33.920
the book that the fell might choose. I mean, that's
1105
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.880
like their Bible. That was the book that Iowa's had
1106
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:42.239
divinated to Crowley in the Pyramid, right, So allegedly there
1107
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:44.119
was a secret code in that and and what it
1108
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:51.000
showed him that this this fire, this constant number is
1109
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:53.920
a way of interacting in other dimensions, and that every
1110
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:57.639
single different god or goddess in the Egyptian pantheon has
1111
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:01.239
a different value numerical value, right, And that what they
1112
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.360
were actually trying to portray was again a sort of
1113
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.760
formula that the Egyptians were actually hiding occulting of formula
1114
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:09.880
by using all these different gods and goddesses. Again, it
1115
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:15.000
gets very crazy, but we're talking about grown people, bro,
1116
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:21.119
who are doing this behind closed doors, that they believed
1117
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:23.960
it to be true, and to them it was true.
1118
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:29.000
And allegedly the mass checks out because Peter Lavenda talked
1119
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.199
to the guy and was like, Yo, yeah, you're this
1120
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.199
this looks legit like this. I haven't again, I haven't
1121
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:38.599
worked out the mathematical part of it, but there's a
1122
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:44.559
reason why they call Miami the Magic City, and not
1123
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:48.920
too far away from that mall Monsters. There's there's various
1124
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:55.480
burial sites that they found bones on our bodies, you know.
1125
01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.400
So it makes me wonder how much of Miami, I
1126
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.000
forget Florida, how much of Miami has been built on
1127
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.960
old burial grounds and what that does to the energy
1128
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.920
in the city. Bro, you know what I'm saying, last.
1129
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.159
Few minutes, let's close on this. I get this weird
1130
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:17.400
intuitive feeling that we're going to continue to see more
1131
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:21.159
quote unquote paranormal type of stories come out in the
1132
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.119
mainstream media and more of these strange events unfolding that
1133
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.960
will probably start off UFO alien related, they may melt
1134
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.880
into something more metaphysical. I don't know, but I do
1135
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.679
get this distinct feeling we'll see more and more of this.
1136
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.000
What do you think, well, hold that thought there, Chris,
1137
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.199
because wasn't it a day ago or a couple of
1138
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.760
days ago they were talking about an interstellar threat. Well,
1139
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.280
what if hear me out? Hear me out, hear me out?
1140
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:50.840
For one second, right, we can wrap up on this,
1141
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.679
what if space I'm gonna play this clip for you
1142
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:03.119
real quick. Space is speak and let's say that space
1143
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.199
is fake and gay for one second, all right. And
1144
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:10.480
the reason they haven't let us let go of that
1145
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.239
concept is because and from my studies, okay, for this
1146
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.559
is from my occult studies, space plays a very pivotal
1147
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:21.519
role in the occult. All these guys that I was
1148
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:25.000
just talking to you about relate to space in some
1149
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:28.880
sort of way. Some of them might be governmental assets,
1150
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.920
so there's the government aspect to it. All that might
1151
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.679
be we were talking about at the beginning, planting these
1152
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.800
ideas and these concepts in the subconscious or whether they're
1153
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.840
injecting the memes. Bro memes the smallest form of information,
1154
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:47.920
and they inject these memes into the collective to form culture. Okay,
1155
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:50.159
there's a reason why they call it a culture. Or
1156
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.440
when they swab something for back culture, there's a culture.
1157
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:56.760
So think about that you take information, you plug it in,
1158
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.360
and you form exactly what we were saying culture. And
1159
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.119
I think that yet, absolutely, I think that it's gonna be.
1160
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:11.159
I think that outer space is another realm and a
1161
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:15.599
different realm where extra tresturers are able to come through.
1162
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:17.159
And they are.
1163
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.600
Paranormal in nature, and I think that's where they're gonna
1164
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:23.479
head with it. I think that's where they're gonna go
1165
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.960
with it. And I'm absolutely right with you. And I've
1166
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.439
talked about this on a couple episodes now where I've
1167
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.720
mentioned my experience and again, dude, I've never seen Bigfoot,
1168
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:40.039
I've never seen dog Man. I've never had any paranormal
1169
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:42.199
experience that I can tell you like that was that
1170
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:46.079
and this is it? You know, if I've had a
1171
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.359
paranormal experience, I'm not aware of that it happened. Okay,
1172
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:51.039
So what I'm about to say, I've talked about this
1173
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:53.560
and people have reached out a lot of people have
1174
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:59.159
reached out confirming the same thing. But I want to say,
1175
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.840
probably six months ago, a year ago, whatever, I've been
1176
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in my peripheral seeing shadows like things moving. Okay, now
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01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.439
that could be whatever, That could be a whole number
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of things. And when I first talked about this, I
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had a bunch of people hit me. I'm like, yo,
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I've been to experiencing the same thing. Well, it turns
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out the speed of light that guy was on just
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on ten foot how not too long ago? Speed of
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light slowing down. So wouldn't it make sense that there's
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another layer to this reality that it's say, is in
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a different wavelength, frequency, whatever, that we're not able to perceive.
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If the speed of light is slowing down, wouldn't it
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make sense that they would be more perceivable to us.
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And if you think of like a peripheral vision, it's
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almost like a I haven't done the research on this,
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01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:50.800
but it's almost like an altered state of a vision
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01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.920
where you know there's something there, but you can't really
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01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:55.960
register it obviously until it's in front of your face.
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So with that said, maybe there's this blending of reality altogether,
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01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.880
and we're gonna start to see more of that other
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01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.199
side next thing, you know, Bro, Kaiju's are gonna start
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01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.760
coming out of the ocean and they're gonna starting out.
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Maybe that's why Japan had that gun, dumb bro getting
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ready for that for the Kaiju Wars or something. I
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don't know, man, but.
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Start seeing sky amibas and ship Yeah dude, yeah, dude,
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this is fun. We're in interesting times. I can't wait
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01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.359
to see one unfolds over the next few years and
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01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.279
we'll be commentating on it. It'll be good times, man.
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01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:35.359
I think the the Apocalypse is gonna be fun as hell. Man,
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We're gonna have a great time during this stuff. I
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don't know about all that, bro, but sure, Okay, that's
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01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:43.159
all about perception, man, all about perception.
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01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:44.680
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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You know.
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I always tell people be good to one another. You know, obviously, firstly,
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01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.119
do your own research, be good to one another, love
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01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:58.039
each other, don't be a piece of crap. And yeah,
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I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Yeah,
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01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:03.439
and this is fun bro. Again, hopefully I made some
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01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:05.279
sense today on this episode.
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01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.800
It made sense to me, and that's it's all that
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01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.880
matters at this moment. Later we'll see what happens, but hell, yeah, man,
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01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.680
this was great. Before you go, remind the audience where
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they can find all the good stuff.
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01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:23.039
TJOJP dot com also chosen Huan dot com for my
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newest comic book is dropping here soon. You want to
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see Sam tripley x G and Johnny x Gan. Johnny
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are actually homunculous in this in this comic. We we
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01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:33.359
want to check that out. Make sure to go to
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01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:37.960
chosen Huan dot com, tjojp dot com for all my
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01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:40.479
other links. And dude, I appreciate you having me on
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01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.319
and another I think you're coming on my show next week.
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So yes, sir, looking forward to it. Awesome man, always fun.
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We'll do it again and until next time, everyone, have
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01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:53.680
an excellent evening. Let's talkgain Tomora see Yaudi in.
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Today.
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I want to welcome Joseph at Will. He is an
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author in research sure. He began his religious studies as
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a youth in Japan at Mary's Military Academy. After selling
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01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.680
his shares in this software industry, he engaged into Bible
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01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:16.000
studies and his research into several historical topics. Joe, welcome,
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How you doing.
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I'm just fine, Chris, how are you?
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I am excellent. And this is such an important discussion
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we're going to be having today. I want to get
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01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.600
your insights into one of the most common questions that
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01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:33.239
really comes up in this community. It's who are they?
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01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:38.399
How long have they been in power? Are they all evil,
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01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.239
Is it a top down power structure? How do they
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01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:46.239
connect to the dystopian agendas unfolding. That's a lot of
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01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:48.319
questions to start with. So we've got a lot to
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01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.319
get into. But before we do, this is your first
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01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:54.199
time on, let the audience know more about yourself and
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01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:54.880
your work.
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01:12:57.039 --> 01:13:00.560
Well. I'm certainly best known for being an author. I
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wrote Caesar's Messiah and Shakespeare's Secret Messiah. The books have
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01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:10.640
been very popular. I also occasionally I'm a talking head.
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01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:16.000
I've been on BBC and Rehn Network in Russia, Fox News,
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01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:22.600
usually talking about Christianity, but occasionally about political matters like
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01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:32.359
the Ukrainian War. For example. I changed politically after analyzing
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01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:35.279
the events of nine one one. I didn't really you know,
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01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.800
finish the analysis, actually began it for four or five years,
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01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:43.199
but I, you know, just concluded that it was impossible
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for anything other than a inside job to have occurred.
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01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.119
And this really changed sort of how I looked at
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01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:56.279
government in general. And I've started speaking about that on
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01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.600
the internet. And this was related to, you know, the
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01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.239
work I had done on Christianity and Shakespeare, which in
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01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:07.439
general promotes the idea of skepticism. I would say the
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01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:10.159
I mean, I won't go into the conclusions of these
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01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:13.359
works if you're not interested, but in general, I just say,
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you know, we need to be skeptical about sort of
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01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:20.840
history and literature that's given to us, about the motivations
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01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:25.319
and things, and so I have, you know, been an
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01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:31.039
outspoken critic of Zionism. As a result of all of this,
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I feel that the real history of Zionism hasn't been
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01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:39.479
given to the public, and if they were really aware
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01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:44.119
of that, they wouldn't support the history and the creation
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01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:47.079
of Israel in the way that they do, and which
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01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:49.119
of course is topical at the moment because of the
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01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:52.920
Gaza situation, which just to give you an example of
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where my strand of thought leads me, I would look
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at that as a false flag. I don't believe that
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there's any other way to look at it coherently. You know,
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01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:11.079
thinking is difficult in this world because our history has
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01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:15.239
been perverted, and therefore, you know, what we think are
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01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.840
facts we can plug into algorithms of logic are not
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necessarily real, and you know, I promote basically the Socratic method.
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I just say, look, you know, we just got to
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be as logical in fact based as we can, and
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01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:31.880
particularly in communication with one another, we have to try
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01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.479
to help each other be more logical and rational because
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01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:40.079
our minds are being assaulted by the oligarchs and their media,
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01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:42.640
and so we need to try to help one another.
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01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:44.880
And the real uh, I'm only going to do this
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once because I know people often don't like it, but
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I really want to, you know, just congratulate you on
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01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:53.720
your work, because this is really, you know, what will
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01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:59.760
ultimately help us, you know, basically recover from the propaganda,
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01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.439
from the mind control is to have lots of independent
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01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.039
voices who are critical thinkers, you know, just bringing the
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01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:10.159
information to the public, having the courage to do it. So,
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you know, I try to promote just sort of logic
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based analysis and like in the case of the October
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seventh invasion of Israel, I would say, look, it makes
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01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.560
no sense. What has been told to us makes no sense.
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There's no way that the Israeli border technology would have
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01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:36.560
been breached seven times. That's just impossible. The very nature
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01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.760
of the attack, the idea of Hamas with their tiny,
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01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:45.000
unorganized army attacking Israel is simply suicidal and stupid. Why
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01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.560
would that be you know, reasonable? And then moreover, the
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you know, the first facts that were given to the public,
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you know, beheaded babies, and then this rave dancing event
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01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.880
with bikini clad girls who are being slaughtered. I mean,
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these things are it wouldn't even make it as a
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01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.239
bad check Norris movie, you know, I mean the hand
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gliders and stuff. I mean, this stuff is ridiculous. This
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01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.720
is all being done just to Bamboo's loss and to
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01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:14.439
create a pretext, a pretext so the public doesn't rise
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01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:17.680
up in arms against you know this, this policy, which
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01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:22.399
was obviously planned well in advance. And and so this
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is the suggestion I make is, you know, when we're
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given these these events, which are so hard to really
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01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.039
make sense of, we have to look for interpretive frameworks
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that are logical, that that the facts that we can
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01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:41.359
claim and understand plug into. And so when you look
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at at the you know, the one the October seventh
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so called invasion as a false flag, it makes perfect sense,
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It's perfectly rational. When you look at it as the
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01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:54.399
you know, as as the media has given it to us,
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01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:56.800
it makes no sense at all. So this is kind
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of what I think shows like yours are really moving,
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hopefully mankind to an expression. You know it too is
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01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:11.399
to look for interpret the frameworks which are just more coherent,
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more fact based.
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01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.520
Now, earlier you mentioned no, that's perfect, that's perfect introduction.
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Earlier you mentioned how difficult it is to navigate and
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01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:26.000
discern our history because of the alterations. Hell, they're changing
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01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.720
everything before our very eyes. They're wiping the Internet, they're
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01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:35.119
changing the literature that we're reading, altering everything that we
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01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.640
have access to. All the information that was easily accessible
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01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:43.399
five to ten years ago is all changing. Imagine fifty two,
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01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:47.359
one hundred years ago, how much everything has been altered
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01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:51.239
and changed based on those who presented the information, those
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01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:55.159
who recorded the information. Those are usually the people in
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01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.960
power at the time, and usually the most corrupt and
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01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:00.760
evil people on the planet. And that's what we're really
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01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:03.239
looking at with our history. How do you sort through
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01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:04.840
in decipher through this stuff.
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Well, just the best I can. As I said, the
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01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:14.439
things that are immutable are logic and our sensory when
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01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:16.800
we are not intoxicated, you know, I mean, we can
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01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:21.680
trust those things. And and so just to go back
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to the example of the you know, the invasion of
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01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:29.760
Israel by the Palestinians so called. We need interpreted frameworks
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01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:34.560
that are logical that that actually are not contradicted by
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01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:39.560
you know, kind of reason, and so to get there,
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01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:44.479
I don't think anyone person could ever make much progress
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01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:49.439
because I think, you know, one versus the media is
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01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:53.600
it's just too overwhelming. However, what we can do is
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01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.760
kind of what we're moving towards as we go through
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01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:02.359
the program, is that we can work together in order
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to help us think better. Facts that are not known
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01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.520
to many can be shared by those who have access
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01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:12.119
to them. They can be ascertained in terms of their veracity,
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01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:14.640
in terms of how they plug into a logical framework.
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01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:19.600
And so shows like yours are really and the communication
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01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:23.840
that is part of it, because you know, it's not
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01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.199
that you just have you know, ever many thousands of listeners,
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01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.880
but they communicate the ideas that come on the show,
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01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.960
the people who come here and talk about their understanding,
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01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:38.279
This gets communicated. So really, this answers your question. This
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is exactly how we can do it, and this is
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01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.560
the only way we can do it. And moreover, I
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01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:48.760
would say that propaganda as a tool has been completely
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01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.640
dominant in our world well since the Dark Ages, and
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01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:57.920
so really we have at this moment more hope and
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01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:02.399
more opportunity to make progress ever before. There really isn't
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01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:05.640
any excuse for people who are you know, moping and
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01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:09.479
black build This is our time. We actually have the internet.
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There is a tremendous amount of skepticism in terms of
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01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.560
government now that can be used as analytic platforms for
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01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:22.159
other ideas. And just as an example, if the vaccine
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01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:24.960
you know, which was mandated in so many ways in
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01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:27.439
the United States with the COVID mess, if that had
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come out in the fifties, there would have been one
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01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.319
hundred percent subscription to it. I guarantee it I lived,
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01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.239
that was there. I can tell you they would have
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just done it. Today. A third of the people didn't
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take it, even though in many cases this was difficult.
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They had job issues or there was propaganda they had
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01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:46.039
to resist. Okay, a third didn't do it. Well, that's
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a political party, my friend. This is power. Moreover, look
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01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:54.039
at the independent registrations. It's over half now of the
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American electorate register as independence. Larger of course, and either
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01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:03.880
the Democrats or the Republicans. Well, again, in the fifties,
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01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:09.239
this was unthinkable. So progress is being made. It's incremental now.
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01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:12.560
In opposition to that, the oligarchs are developing their technology.
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01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:15.920
We use the Internet to try to liberate ourselves. They
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01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.600
use it to enslave us. So the struggle is on,
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01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:22.479
you know, and one just hopes that you and your
1397
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:28.079
generation of researchers and thinkers and communicators that you just
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01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:32.960
have the power of basically self preservation, because this is
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01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:35.239
our moment and it won't come again. And they are
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01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:38.960
trying to finish us off, either physically or mentally. So
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01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:42.319
we've got to fight back, and we've got to understand
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01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:45.039
their techniques, you know. I mean the thing about propaganda,
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01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:49.279
and I have at least I have written so much
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about it. I think I have at least that much
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01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:54.520
authority in terms of this subject. I'm sure I spent
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a lot of time studying it and talking about it.
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Propaganda doesn't work at all if you don't trust the
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soon is bringing it to you. It's just that's the
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state of mind if you you have to give trust
1410
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:11.079
to that individual. So they set up personalities that will
1411
01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:14.039
be basically cul de sacs to move us in directions
1412
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.520
away from the right analytic path, the one that leads
1413
01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:18.760
to them. You see, they will set up these cul
1414
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.800
de sacs, they'll set up, you know, a health freedom
1415
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:25.319
people who seemingly are in opposition but in fact are
1416
01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.640
taking you to some you know, bizarre understanding which doesn't
1417
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:31.640
really lead you to an identity of who's doing all this.
1418
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:37.600
So you know, it's uh, you know, it's just it's
1419
01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:41.079
a very exciting time. The battle is engaged and uh,
1420
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:48.159
you know, propaganda is in my opinion, going to have
1421
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.000
a kind of diminishing returns, And this is what is exciting.
1422
01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.560
They are at a point there's so much skepticism now
1423
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.479
when they bring out the memes which are designed to like,
1424
01:23:58.079 --> 01:24:00.479
you know, just in case us, you know, in these
1425
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:04.960
little thought bubbles. Well look now, just no one believes
1426
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:07.680
a thing they say. They just don't believe them. They
1427
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.760
mean wolf Blitzer, you know, I mean these people could
1428
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:13.199
just speak until they're blue in the face and have
1429
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:18.159
clever memes and techniques and nudge technology and Facebook doesn't matter.
1430
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:22.560
Look a look at this. How many people who have
1431
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:26.439
really entered from kind of the normy you know, I
1432
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.600
just believe the American history that's presented by you know,
1433
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.800
the older darks. How many people have moved from that
1434
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:40.399
to who could understand and engage you and your guests.
1435
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.159
How many people who have made that transition ever go
1436
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:48.359
back the other way? No one, zero. You're looking at
1437
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.319
these are the limits of and the power of human intelligence.
1438
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:56.439
No one ever goes into the sunlight and then walks
1439
01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.880
back into the darkness. Once you've developed the skepticism, they
1440
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.960
I've lost the power to control them. They may have
1441
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:07.199
different ways of dealing with them, but the power of
1442
01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:10.000
the skepticism will always be there. So what we got
1443
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.920
to do is develop more skeptical people.
1444
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.680
Now you mentioned a couple of things. Of course, what
1445
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:20.079
I really want to get to is who are they?
1446
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:24.279
But you also mentioned that there are seemingly pockets of resistance,
1447
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:27.520
and this is where people, I believe, get a lot
1448
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:31.399
of false hope. I believe that there are different factions
1449
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.319
that may not always agree on the outcomes of the
1450
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:37.640
certain agendas that are being put forward.
1451
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:38.880
But there is.
1452
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:44.760
Also infiltration, there's co opting of any type of movement
1453
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.960
that is for the people that seems to be positive
1454
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.680
in the beginning, it's always infiltrated and steered in different directions,
1455
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.239
so it's not going in the correct direction. And this
1456
01:25:56.399 --> 01:26:01.000
is happening in this community as well. Certain players that
1457
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.199
we've seen on the scene for a long time that
1458
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.800
have been providing us with the information are being propped
1459
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:13.159
up and there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation coming
1460
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:16.520
out of the community right now. Let's talk a little
1461
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:21.600
bit about the different factions. You said they have pockets
1462
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:26.920
of opposition, but is it just staged, is it theatrical?
1463
01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:30.079
Is it all part of the same show that we're seeing.
1464
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:30.800
What do you think?
1465
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.119
Yeah, the I mean because the term pockets of resistance
1466
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.359
is a little vague, but you know, I would say people,
1467
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:44.199
in my opinion, are kind of misunderstanding the historical process
1468
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.279
in that we aren't at the political stage yet, we're
1469
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:52.840
at the information dissemination. This is the process for now
1470
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:57.239
and the real resistance is going on and the trends,
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01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.680
you know, the transputation of people's minds is that their
1472
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:05.920
individuals are developing skepticism and individuals are learning how to
1473
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:10.640
communicate who are skeptical. The organization that really matters is
1474
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:13.720
just the audience who listens to your show and the
1475
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.079
other podcasts that are in the same vein. That's what matters.
1476
01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:20.239
We need to because we can't really be a political
1477
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:24.239
power just yet. We don't have the numbers, and we
1478
01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:28.800
have to go through the information process to get like
1479
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.640
you know, I would say basically like fifty percent of
1480
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.359
the public has to be clear minded enough that they
1481
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:38.600
could listen to your show to say ten guests and
1482
01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:42.279
understand everything that was said, have opinions about them. You know.
1483
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:46.760
So we're we're not anywhere near there, but obviously we'removing
1484
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:49.840
the right direction and people just shouldn't be discouraged by
1485
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.239
you know, I mean take the health freedom movement with
1486
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:56.359
the COVID mandates, which was you know, it produced all
1487
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:59.399
these personalities, but what is it really when did it
1488
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:02.199
really ever do at the end? I mean, remember, you know,
1489
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.079
getting back to your the ultimate question is who are
1490
01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:07.960
they who in the health freedom movement? I mean, of
1491
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:10.840
the I won't name their names, but they're very well known.
1492
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.680
You know, they've they dominated the resistance. You know, who
1493
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:21.159
actually has taken you know, the public to the identity
1494
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:24.399
and the motivation of the people who brought out the
1495
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.399
vaccine and the mandates. You know, they don't do that
1496
01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:30.399
that you may get to the idea of the deep state,
1497
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.760
Well what's that? That's just a cul de sact. That's
1498
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:36.800
just a term that that helps people stop thinking, right,
1499
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:42.800
So yeah, they they When when I see these kind
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01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:46.720
of public organizations manifest like another person I think is
1501
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.720
a show is Alex Jones. I mean I don't trust
1502
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:51.159
him as far. I mean I just think he's an
1503
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:54.039
obvious show. That's my opinion. I could give you evidence
1504
01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:58.000
of that. But the thing is is that these are
1505
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:00.840
you know, they are controlled opposition, and they're trying to
1506
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:05.640
basically slow down the process by which people become clear
1507
01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:09.359
minded and skeptical. Because the real, the real way you
1508
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.239
can tell Chris is who is like real and who isn't?
1509
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:13.119
Is?
1510
01:29:13.239 --> 01:29:16.560
Who is who is the people who are demanding that
1511
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:20.079
the analysis go further and find out who are the
1512
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:24.039
individuals who are doing this, what is their motivation? Because
1513
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:27.760
here you get into you know, you have then the barrier.
1514
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.279
I would say that the group that's doing this, I
1515
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:34.840
would call them Judeo Masonic, right, this would be we
1516
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:37.840
can get into the identities. But you know, once you
1517
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.880
when you approach that, you have terms like conspiracy theorists,
1518
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:49.880
anti Semite, holocaust denier. You know, these terms are barriers, right,
1519
01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:54.560
just as the shills and the pseudo organizations are barriers.
1520
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:58.840
They're barriers to thought it's basically an invitation, you know,
1521
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:03.279
with ad hominint, to to stop thinking along the lines
1522
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:06.039
that this person is suggesting that you should go. This
1523
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:09.640
person is an anti Semite, this person is a conspiracy theorist,
1524
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:13.520
you know. So they are ridiculed with these terms that
1525
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:18.600
are just designed rationally as thought stoppers. They just stopped
1526
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:22.800
the process. You want to know who's real, who's demanding
1527
01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.279
that we go further, who's demanding that we don't know
1528
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:31.079
yet who the individuals were? And to continue the Socratic process, man,
1529
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:33.920
I mean the Socratic method. It'll get us right out
1530
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.399
of here, out of our you know, the process by
1531
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.479
which we're being enslaved in genocide if we just start
1532
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:43.479
applying it to our current problems, our current plight, and
1533
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:47.119
trying to identify, you know, who are these people, what
1534
01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.000
is their motivation, what is actually happening to us? See,
1535
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:55.359
there's enough information, it's there, The data is there, but
1536
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:58.560
it is just so widely disseminated among all of the
1537
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:02.479
individuals that have different parts of the puzzle that it's
1538
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.760
impossible right now we don't have kind of the analytic
1539
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.279
tools in the internet in our communities to assemble it
1540
01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:12.000
all and go right to you know, say, the source
1541
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:16.239
of our of our problems. But we're moving in that direction.
1542
01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:21.520
Every show you do moves us in that direction, and
1543
01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:26.119
the thinking is getting better. They're trying to wreck our thought,
1544
01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:30.399
but it isn't working because, as I said, the propaganda
1545
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:34.680
has reached diminishing returns. They bring out you know, it's
1546
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:37.880
like at the end with the vaccine mandates, they would
1547
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:41.680
bring out more rationales, are taking another booster. This would
1548
01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.079
actually turn more people off than would get people to
1549
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:50.199
start accepting you know, the the vaccine. So they are
1550
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:54.359
at diminishing returns because there's too large a fraction of
1551
01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:59.239
the population that is skeptical and that looks to information
1552
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.880
from shows like yours. Right, these guys are this collection
1553
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:09.279
of individuals is not going to be controlled by you know,
1554
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:15.359
by Facebook, by the nudge technology, by AI generating images
1555
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:19.399
of like you know, middle age I mean middle ages
1556
01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:22.199
Europeans with black faces, I mean the different ways they
1557
01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:25.760
try to you know, promote their agenda that this this
1558
01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:28.199
is diminishing returns. Time. People just look at that and
1559
01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:30.279
they go, well, they're obvious, you know, we can see
1560
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:30.760
what they're doing.
1561
01:32:31.319 --> 01:32:34.399
Yeah, right, Well, let's get into a bit of the
1562
01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:37.760
history of these people. You've done a great job tracing
1563
01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:41.479
this back. How far back should we go when looking
1564
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:43.600
at the origins of these groups?
1565
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:47.159
Well, the I mean there's there have been different groups
1566
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:50.159
that have influenced in history. The group that is currently
1567
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:54.520
on top of us I would call them Judeo Masonic. Now,
1568
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.279
when when you think of the Jewish aspect of it,
1569
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:03.319
it is not a a you know, an accusation against Jews.
1570
01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:07.359
I think most of the Jews are as bamboozled and
1571
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:11.760
mind controlled as everyone else. Right, the way to describe
1572
01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:15.560
it is as it's an analogy to like the mafia,
1573
01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:21.560
where it was Sicilian and this was how the organization
1574
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:25.199
maintained secrecy is by this racial component. But it wasn't
1575
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:28.399
the people of Sicily. They hated the mafia in general.
1576
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.560
They weren't getting any benefit from that all. But this
1577
01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:34.119
would be how I would call the Judeo part of it.
1578
01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:38.800
The Masonic part is easier to talk about, you know,
1579
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:42.560
because you don't have the concern of anti Semitism. But
1580
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:47.800
it's certainly I would say, at least till this century,
1581
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.039
was the most powerful part. So who are they Well,
1582
01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:56.680
basically they're the tectons. They're actually referenced in Josephus in
1583
01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:00.000
the first century. They're builders in architects. It's a secret society,
1584
01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:04.359
as I would trace it, and there is you know,
1585
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:08.199
not enough data to give you like complete citations, but
1586
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:11.319
we can look at basically what happened and draw kind
1587
01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:13.800
of a look like as I was describing thought as
1588
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:18.359
creating logical context before. You can see that the Knights
1589
01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:25.319
Templar would have come from the Messianic Jews who lost
1590
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:30.840
the struggle against Rome. The Templars would have been you know,
1591
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:32.840
I think they would have been described in the Dead
1592
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:38.079
Sea scrolls as the builders. So they were you know,
1593
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:43.000
it was a secret society. They withdrew their public identity
1594
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:46.760
as Jews. They couldn't do that in the Roman Empire
1595
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:50.359
at this time. I mean, so they basically created an
1596
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:54.079
identity that could survive within the Roman Empire, and it
1597
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:58.479
was the Knights Templar. The origins of it is who knows,
1598
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.359
you know, the exact details, but it ends up with
1599
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:05.760
there is a struggle going on between Catholicism and the Templars.
1600
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.439
You can see that the leader of the Templars, Demola,
1601
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:13.840
is burned on the steps of Notre Dame, and then
1602
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:18.760
when the inversion of power occurred, the Masons and bird
1603
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.880
Notre Dame on his and the death on the date
1604
01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:26.079
commemorating his burning, you know, so you can see who
1605
01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:29.720
has taken control, you know, over the time. Anyway, the
1606
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:35.239
Masons are also because they're a secret siety. They're hard
1607
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:39.840
to understand, but they they have been. They're very ancient.
1608
01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.720
They didn't begin in Scotland though, This was where you
1609
01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:46.960
can kind of pick up the overt history. They had
1610
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:51.159
some the Templars evidently had some agreement with Robert Bruce,
1611
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:55.800
the King of Scotland. You end up with the Scottish
1612
01:35:55.880 --> 01:36:01.119
Freemasonry now, you know, in the seventeenth century becoming very powerful,
1613
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:08.560
sixteenth century. It's infiltrating the kind of the political life
1614
01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:14.199
of Europe. And it's a secret society. No one you
1615
01:36:14.279 --> 01:36:17.479
know knows who's who accept with their little handshakes and whatnot.
1616
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:22.359
But you end up, I mean, just we could keep
1617
01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:24.359
go into great detail, but you can end up saying
1618
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.840
in general in eighteen forty with Palmerston. Palmerston is a
1619
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:33.159
grand Master Freemason and he sets up what's called Palmerston's Zoo,
1620
01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.000
which basically is simply the Freemason control of all of
1621
01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:44.319
the political centers of powers throughout Europe. They had agents everywhere,
1622
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:51.039
they had color revolutions and infiltrators. They were killing you know,
1623
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:56.640
the legitimate you know, kings of these areas. They're replacing everyone.
1624
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:02.159
And so at that time Palmerston zoo, which is really
1625
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:05.000
well documented. If people want to see the receipts on this,
1626
01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:08.960
I would suggest the Laruge scholars. They just did a
1627
01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:13.840
fantastic job of exposing Palmerston and how he controlled how
1628
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:20.560
the Masons controlled Europe, and Palmerston now began Zionism. Okay,
1629
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:25.439
so Zionism was not a Jewish project. Again, we go
1630
01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:27.439
back to the idea of like well, you know, the
1631
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:32.399
Judeo Masonic aspect of this. Palmerston began zionum is in
1632
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:34.920
eighteen forty. He says, now is the time for the
1633
01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:39.640
Jews to return to the homeland. Lord Palmerson, purported Christian
1634
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:43.600
and of course Freemason Grand Master and Prime Minister of England.
1635
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:49.319
He makes a declaration the Jews rejected. The Jews actually
1636
01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:54.439
had developed a religion that was called reform Judaism, which
1637
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:58.720
had taken the position that Judaism should be a light,
1638
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:06.159
a moral adjunct for all humanity. Okay, just completely opposite
1639
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:09.319
of the Zionistic Judaism that you know was kind of
1640
01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:13.920
in Israel today. So when Palmerson came out with the statement,
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01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:19.479
reformed Jews organized against him, but they were swept aside,
1642
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:24.520
and actually their organization was subverted because Palmerson was representing
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01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:29.439
the financial power of the British Empire, and they hired
1644
01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:32.720
people to go into the congregations and basically over time
1645
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:36.960
broke down all of the idea of eighteen forty, eighteen fifty,
1646
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:42.439
eighteen sixty. They broke down the idea of Judaism being
1647
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:46.960
something that the gentiles could participate in an overall moral force,
1648
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:50.359
and they returned to the ideas of like Deuteronomy with
1649
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:58.399
xenophobic and the Promised Land specifically, And so you have
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01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:04.399
the protosionis as I call them, from eighteen forty to
1651
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:07.600
about eighteen eighty set up the whole structure of what
1652
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:10.680
becomes Israel I mean at all. I won't go into
1653
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:12.760
all the details, but they were working on the project
1654
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.800
all the time. They had survey after survey that were
1655
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:19.399
sent paid for by the Freemasons and the British Royal family.
1656
01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:22.680
Those were the two funding entities. They sent them to
1657
01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.439
Palestine and basically they were there the surveys of their
1658
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:29.640
trying to figure out how to replace the Palestinians, how
1659
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:34.239
to set up the immigration of Jews into which areas
1660
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:37.199
so that they could have farmland and communications and things
1661
01:39:37.279 --> 01:39:41.640
like this. So you finally got to Jewish Zionism around
1662
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:45.840
eighteen ninety with Herzel. Now Herzel is an artificial figure
1663
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:50.239
of Shippll. He's employee of the protosionis of the British
1664
01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:54.439
Masonic Order. I mean he had a nickname in College
1665
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:58.239
of Tankred, which is a character in one of Disraeli's novels.
1666
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:02.039
Disraeli is one of the big Freemason promoters of the
1667
01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.359
proto Zionism, so you can see they basically and his
1668
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:09.039
speeches were all just copies of Disraeli speeches. So he's
1669
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:12.640
just as he's an employee of the Protozionists. He's there
1670
01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:16.720
to hand over the project to Jews, right, who are
1671
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:19.119
now have been developed and you start getting you know
1672
01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:23.600
you Bengorian and gold in my ear and all these people. Well, anyway,
1673
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:28.880
this is simply a Masonic project which is related to
1674
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.640
their fixation on the rebuilding of the temple. Notice, Hiram
1675
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:37.439
Abiff is their kind of central character. He was the
1676
01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:40.920
builder of the of the first Temple. So this is
1677
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:45.600
what you're dealing with, is a group who has taken
1678
01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:48.800
an oath, and the oath has passed on through generations,
1679
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:53.520
is using freemasonry as a cloak of secrecy, that is
1680
01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:59.319
intent on re establishing Israel as they define it under
1681
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:03.960
their term to set up their temple, and they claim
1682
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.319
lineage I'm sure, all the way back to hire them
1683
01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:09.920
a biff, even though I think if you did a
1684
01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:13.520
DNA sample you'd see that that's just a fantasy on
1685
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:17.319
their part. But nevertheless, this is how they view themselves.
1686
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:22.199
They view themselves as you know, basically an opposition to Christianity,
1687
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:24.960
which was related to the group that defeated them in
1688
01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:28.079
the first century, and they want to set up This
1689
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.760
is why they call it a new world Order. If
1690
01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:35.560
you want to see an example of their literature, I
1691
01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:39.760
would suggest people read an analysis of The Tempest I did.
1692
01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:42.680
You can just google my last name Atwill and the
1693
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:46.640
Tempest and you can see that I show that the
1694
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:53.680
play is actually anticipating basically a Zionism and the creation
1695
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:59.760
of a Jewish world ruler. And people have always known
1696
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:04.039
the scholarship have always understood that the play is based
1697
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:07.079
on Isaiah. I won't go into all these details. It'll
1698
01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:09.239
just put over into sleep. But the play is based
1699
01:42:09.279 --> 01:42:11.560
on Isaiah. But what scholarship, If you read the article,
1700
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:14.239
you'll see that what scholars have not noticed is that
1701
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.359
it isn't just the first part of Isaiah the play
1702
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.800
is representing. It's also representing the second part of Isaiah,
1703
01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:24.279
which describes a genocide of the Gentiles, an area where
1704
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:29.399
the only the owls exist in the desolation and instantly.
1705
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:33.439
This is where you see the owl often used as
1706
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:36.239
a symbol of the new world order types. This is
1707
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:39.760
where it comes from. It's because the owl could see
1708
01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:42.520
in the dark, basically, and so they put it in
1709
01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:48.840
this post in the post genocide of the Gentiles world
1710
01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:52.079
as as a way of recognizing that the people who
1711
01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:54.520
are coming out of the darkness and this instantly. The
1712
01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:57.279
tempest is important because this is where the expression brave
1713
01:42:57.359 --> 01:43:00.840
New World comes from. Brave New World was then used
1714
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:06.760
by Huxley and Kipling to describe a post Christian world right,
1715
01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.079
and then the phrase was then reused b. HG. Wells
1716
01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:14.199
and it became New World Order. So so you have
1717
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.520
brave New World, you know, which is just one way
1718
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.119
of describing. And then New World Order order, of course
1719
01:43:21.279 --> 01:43:23.199
is Masonic order.
1720
01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:24.640
This is what H. G.
1721
01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:29.840
Wells is massive Freemason monster. That's how he's using the expression.
1722
01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.399
So the brave, the brave New world is the New
1723
01:43:33.479 --> 01:43:38.800
World Order. It's a post Christian world wherein the ancient
1724
01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:44.279
lineages who think saw themselves as part of the first
1725
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:51.760
century struggle against Rome, who were defeated then and now
1726
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:56.960
are trying to re establish what they call order in
1727
01:43:57.039 --> 01:44:01.920
the world. You'll notice the symmetry. In the first century,
1728
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:06.800
you know, the Romans defeated the Jews and the Diaspergers right,
1729
01:44:07.600 --> 01:44:11.800
and in World War two, uh, the Germans, who have
1730
01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:15.279
been set up as a the Aryan proxy right of
1731
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:20.399
are completely defeated. And now the Jews returned to Israel, right,
1732
01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:23.479
so you have you know, the establishment of Israel. So
1733
01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:27.479
they the Masons see this as a kind of you know,
1734
01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:31.359
symmetrical justice that they are applying in the world. And
1735
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:35.680
so now when you branch out, when you when you
1736
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.760
say look at our us presidents, look at how many
1737
01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:42.840
of them are either overtly Freemason or were connected to it,
1738
01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:48.560
like Clinton was a demo let for example, the bushes,
1739
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.279
they they were you know, scull and bones. Skull and
1740
01:44:51.359 --> 01:44:55.000
bones is just an annex of Freemasonry, right, And so
1741
01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:59.399
you have secret societies, and I think when you get
1742
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:03.399
to like, you just have a he's a you know why,
1743
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:06.239
he's what I call a lifetime actor. I mean, he
1744
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:09.079
reports to be a Catholic. He puts you know, ash
1745
01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:12.920
on his forehead and Wednesday, you know, before Lent. But
1746
01:45:13.039 --> 01:45:15.640
he's just a he's just a shill. I would I
1747
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:18.279
would call him a converso. And I would just suggest
1748
01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:20.760
that if you want to really identify and precisely, get
1749
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:23.880
a DNA test and you'd be able to see exactly
1750
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.520
who his family structure, who he's realated to. He's not
1751
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:29.960
an honest Catholic. The whole idea when when you look
1752
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.560
at like the people who go you know, it's such
1753
01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:36.840
it's now it's just so common. But US presidents go
1754
01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:39.039
to Jerusalem and they go to the wall and they
1755
01:45:39.159 --> 01:45:41.640
doven' and they like put their hands on the wall
1756
01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:44.159
and you know, they make you know, like testaments of
1757
01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:47.079
faith whatever I'm not sure what they're doing, but you see,
1758
01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:51.640
this is completely irrational if they are Christian. If you
1759
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:55.239
read the Gospels, you'll see that the destruction of Jerusalem
1760
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:59.560
was being presented as something that is natural because the
1761
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:03.640
Jews were basically evil. Right, So why would someone who
1762
01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:07.640
claims to be a Christian then suddenly want to invert
1763
01:46:07.760 --> 01:46:12.199
his entire theology right and say, well, let's be Zionist.
1764
01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.000
Zionism is not something that falls out of the Gospels.
1765
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:19.720
The Gospels are the most anti Zionist work ever created.
1766
01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:24.479
So you know, when you get to say identification of
1767
01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:28.800
like the rothchilds. Okay, So the rothchilds are I don't
1768
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:30.720
think this is the top of the pyramid. I think
1769
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.640
that's the top of the pyramid would be hidden from us.
1770
01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:37.640
But the roth childs are. They're a figure that they've
1771
01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:42.920
given to us. Okay. So like you look at for example, Soros, right,
1772
01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:46.279
all the mischief he does with our cities, Soros comes
1773
01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:49.439
from the Rothtail family. His wealth was artificially created by
1774
01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:52.560
the Rothtail family. Look in my say, live in California.
1775
01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:56.319
You have Gavin Newsom as our governor, right, Gavin Newssan's
1776
01:46:56.399 --> 01:47:01.279
father was the financial steward of the Getty family. Gavin
1777
01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:04.800
Newsom grew up in J. Paul Grey's house, right, that's
1778
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:09.239
this is his household. Okay, Now who's Getty? Well, he's
1779
01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:15.359
a mason who was was allied with the roth Child
1780
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:19.520
when when Rothchild was they Hitler for a period of
1781
01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:24.840
time had the roth Child baron and their house arrest
1782
01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:28.119
in his palace in Berlin. The person that they brought
1783
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:32.439
to get all of his artwork and fancy furniture out
1784
01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:33.840
was J. Paul Getty.
1785
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:34.880
Right.
1786
01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:37.359
So then and then he goes back to London and
1787
01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:39.880
lives with these guys, and then then the course following
1788
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.359
the war, he becomes billionaire with all these weird oil
1789
01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:44.319
deals which no one knows how in the hell you
1790
01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:46.039
know he came up with. Well, I tell you how
1791
01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:47.720
he came up with him. He came up with the
1792
01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:49.720
same the same way that Sores came up with the
1793
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:51.920
insights and interest rates so he could invest in the
1794
01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:55.159
futures and make a billion dollars. These are artificial people.
1795
01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:59.039
Bill Gates is another one. It's completely artificial. I mean
1796
01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:03.800
he couldn't even code, and yet IBM gave him the
1797
01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:06.520
operating system for the personal computer right, you just take
1798
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:09.720
this as a business franchise. I mean, it's just ridiculous.
1799
01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:12.279
But then you look in his background and you see,
1800
01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:14.000
you know, his father has had a planned parenthoo and
1801
01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:17.600
his mother is one of the feeder reserve banking families. Well,
1802
01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:20.880
this is how the this is who they are, you
1803
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.600
see they are They are a secret society. So we
1804
01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:28.560
can't and we don't need to know identities down to
1805
01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:32.239
the last degree. We need to know who's in the
1806
01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:35.840
society and who isn't. Right when you look at Gavin
1807
01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:39.880
Newsom or J. Paul Getty or George Soros and you
1808
01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:44.119
see these direct connections back to a family so central
1809
01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:48.880
to this project, this historical project of establishing the new
1810
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:51.439
world order, as the rothch House, then you know who
1811
01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:54.479
they are. Then they're identified, okay, And once they are
1812
01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:59.039
then you can apply analytic techniques to defend yourself against
1813
01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:04.039
them to them, right, because they can't really hide from
1814
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:07.720
their past. And you get to the point where you
1815
01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.920
can draw too many connections and it becomes too clear
1816
01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.720
that there is some organizing principle to all of this.
1817
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:16.800
And this is so this we're dealing with.
1818
01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.560
Would you agree that the events of world War one,
1819
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:24.760
World War two, the JFK assassination nine to eleven, and
1820
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:30.399
even COVID. We're all stepping stones for achieving their ultimate
1821
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:32.000
global domination goal.
1822
01:49:33.560 --> 01:49:39.399
Yeah, everyone, one hundred percent. Look look at look at
1823
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:43.640
the license plate of Archbishop Ferdinand when he was assassinated,
1824
01:49:44.319 --> 01:49:47.359
and just amazingly it has the date of the Armisice
1825
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:50.439
written on it, which is just an increase. And see
1826
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.399
this is the Mason's the prefiguration. You know that they
1827
01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:59.000
they knew that the date was of you know, going
1828
01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:01.760
to be November eleven. You know that this was the
1829
01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:07.439
date that they were going to end the Armisiest and
1830
01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:17.520
so World War one was completely artificial. The president, actually
1831
01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:22.800
the King of Germany, Wilhelm, was the cousin of the
1832
01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:26.399
King of England. They were both grandchildren of Victoria, the
1833
01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:32.920
Masonic witch. And so then you have this inexplicable ramming
1834
01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:37.680
together of armies, right carnage. My grandfather was at the
1835
01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:41.439
some he was mustard gassed and he was lucky he lived.
1836
01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:45.800
He died in our house like in this like fifty nine.
1837
01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:50.039
So we made it for forty years, but sixty thousand
1838
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:53.239
people died in the afternoon. And this was a battle
1839
01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:56.520
that had no objective. I mean, it was just the
1840
01:50:56.720 --> 01:51:01.159
ramming together of Europeans. This was the purpose of World
1841
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:04.920
War One and World War Two. I wrote an article
1842
01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:08.680
again there's no paywall, you can just go the Freemason
1843
01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:11.279
invention of the Nazi Party, and I show how Hitler
1844
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:17.880
was just an obvious creation of Freemasonry. Okay, they set
1845
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:22.520
this up for fifty years seven's sakes, and I tried
1846
01:51:22.520 --> 01:51:24.319
to give the receipts and I think people will find
1847
01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:29.079
details in there that will be you know, very I
1848
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:33.720
think illuminating in terms of how this individual was put
1849
01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:39.479
in power and then why he would fight in this
1850
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:42.359
inexplicable way down to the last German you know, we
1851
01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:44.560
had this at the end, you know, we have to
1852
01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:47.159
either live or die as a race, you know. I
1853
01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:49.720
mean this is and at the same time, this total
1854
01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:54.439
war concept is being held by the Masonic British leader Churchill.
1855
01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:58.039
So bad luck for the German people. They are being
1856
01:51:58.239 --> 01:52:02.600
led into complete the struction by the political powers. I
1857
01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:05.800
would say that it's because the political powers are part
1858
01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:12.279
of this historical you know project, and that the defanging
1859
01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:17.760
and and depopulating of Europe was just critical to the project.
1860
01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:20.680
So you know, then you get to you know, the
1861
01:52:20.840 --> 01:52:24.079
mandates for COVID. I mean, of course it's preposterous, you know,
1862
01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:28.840
just preposterous that the disease was not anywhere near if
1863
01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:31.000
it even it was real, was not as lethal as
1864
01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:34.840
you know, any more than the flu. So they were
1865
01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:37.760
training the population. It's like nine one one. What was
1866
01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.760
the what was really the end result of of of
1867
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:43.239
nine one one? What it was? It was, uh, you
1868
01:52:43.319 --> 01:52:45.880
know lines at the airports. That was that That was
1869
01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:47.760
what really came out of it, right, so that that
1870
01:52:47.880 --> 01:52:51.039
you can be expected, right, well, this is just social control.
1871
01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:54.359
They are just incrementally moving us, you know with lines
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at the airport will become lines at the grocery store,
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and uh, you know, mandates or you know, the vaccine
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for one virus will become mandates for you know, chemical
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insertion into every human for everything. You want to see
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the plan, I mean Huxley, who is a monstrous freemason,
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he just just tells you what it is in Brave
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in the world where you've got the government controlling intellectual
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levels of all of the different elements of population, and
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what they're doing is creating the epsilon and delta class.
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I mean I would say that the you know, autism,
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you look about how obviously it is related to vaccines
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and to the chemicals, the toxicities. The fact that no
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one is doing anything about it just shows you that
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this is the This is the this is the delta
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and epsilon class slowly incrementally being brought about, right That's
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what that's what is going on right now, is that
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they are they're transforming us through chemicals into diminished thought
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creatures for the purpose of basically being sex slaves and
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you know, household servants in the at the conclusion where
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the controllers you know, will you know, have basically no, no,
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they won't have anyone with you know, any kind of
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mental power to have to worry about.
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Earlier, you mentioned the political power structure political leaders. Do
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you think that these people, these individuals, even presidents, have
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an idea of what the bigger picture is, have an
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idea of exactly why they're playing the role they are.
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Do you how where do you think they are of
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the bigger picture of what's unfolding?
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They know everything they have to They couldn't be in
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the office. I mean, they they at least know they
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have to obey the back channel. You know, they may
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not know all of the plans, but they would they
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know they have to obey the back channel, so that
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means they know everything. They know that. The key thing
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that has to be known is that what we see
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as a act democratic political system in American Europe is untrue.
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What we have as a system of control the presidents
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and the democratic process are manipulations so that we don't
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recognize that we're being let off a cliff. I mean,
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you know, that's why when you go into like the
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Bush family of the Clintons, I mean, you're you're looking
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at lifetime actors, they will just lie about their background,
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who they are, what their motivations are. You know, their
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people will say, well, there are exceptions like Kennedy. I mean,
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I don't know, I don't have you know, I don't
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have any way to know that I think they have.
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On one hand, he was assassinated, so this may be,
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you know a way to think, well he was okay,
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this guy was actually off the reservation. But you know,
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I would say that in general, what we're dealing with
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is stage craft. And it doesn't matter if it's Trump
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or Hillary or Obama. They are all control by the
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back channel. I mean, look at one six, right, this
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is a theatrical production. Trump obviously knows what Pence is
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going to do. I mean, they couldn't have not communicated
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this fact, and yet he's still promoting the demonstration. You've
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got agents in the in the crowd that are trying
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to promote this invasion, you know, of the Capitol building,
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and this is all stagecraft to set up the historical
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event of an insurrection, as they would call it, so
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that they can then bring to Cronian you know, observation
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and laws and regulations against Europeans who catch on to
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the fact that wait a second, something is up here.
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There's something doesn't make any sense. I mean, all the
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vaccine mandates, the fake one one six experience nine one
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one is still you know, a sort of damocles hanging
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over the barchs because that's getting you know, I mean,
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it's just not something people can really go into and
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think about, look at the evidence, and come out with
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any other conclusion that we're being manipulated by a secret society.
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So they know, the presidents know they are. They are
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lifetime actors. They've been they have been trained, and you
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have to look in the background of the people to
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really see how it's done. Me like with Obama, look
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into his mother's background, look into her connections to Gregory
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bateson Gregory bateson you know this anthropologist at Esslon, you know,
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like Huxley, you like promoting you know, peace and love.
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But then you look deeper and you see he's part
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of MK Ultra. He's he's creating the mind control that
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he's claiming to be resisting. You know, really good thought
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kind of process is to go and get the interview
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that all ths Huxley did. I forget that guy's name.
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He was the guy who was on sixty minutes, but
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he did this interview with him, Dan Rather and Rather
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it could have been anyway. He does this interview with him,
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and he's saying, you know, the government is so terrible.
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They could get these controls and we have to be
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careful about drugs, and the population could be led into
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a place where it doesn't want to be, and we
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really have to worry about this. We have to organize
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democratically against it. At the same time, the exact same
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time that he was giving that interview, then when the
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MK Ultra documents came out, you could see that Huxley
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was giving instructions to an MK ultra doctor about how
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to set up experiments to determine how to control people
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with LSD. Yeah, exact same time he was giving the interview. Right,
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then look at Gordon Wawson, right, you know, you look
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at the May nineteen fifty seven Life magazine article where
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he's talking about how, you know, I've discovered magic mushrooms
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and it's incredible. You know, we're going to have this
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connection into God that we've never had before. It's all
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this religious spiritualism is going to be elevated. And well
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wait a second, this is going to Mexico is an
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mk ultra project. It's actually listed and funded. The people
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with him are CIA employees. I mean, the thing is ridiculous. Obviously,
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we were being taken into like a sex drugs in
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rock and roll context, right, for the purpose of diminishing us.
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They wanted to break apart the family, right, they wanted
1980
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to Pornography is an enormous tool for you know, dystopia,
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and they wanted to shatter ethnicity. Right, sex drugs and
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rock and roll they give you the workers paradise, and
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in exchange, you give up your political agency. And the
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end result is ultimately, just like what happened with the
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First Workers Paradise with Russia, right, you end up with
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one hundred and fifty million slaughtered human you know, fifteen
1987
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years later. So you know, that's that's kind of like
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what I would say about the presidents is they are
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lifetime actors. They are no better than you know, Gordon Wasson,
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Aldus Huxley, you know, Gregory Bates and Tim Leary, all
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of these people who are connected into the CIA, who
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created the counterculture. They were all lifetime actors, groomed, trained
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to put out these images. The presidents are just another
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version of that genre.
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How do you see everything unfolding? Now? Do you see
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any victories? I have a lot of hope for what's happening,
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just because of the sheer amount of people that are
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waking up and becoming aware of the corruption, and it
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has an effect on the events unfolding, because ultimately, we're
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we put these people in control, We allowed them, We
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consume their products, we consume their propaganda. So we on
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a level allow a lot of this to unfold. But
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as we become more aware collectively, we may not allow
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that to unfold as much.
2005
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Anymore.
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I'd like to get where you see all this going
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and how this is unfolding now going to.
2008
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World revolution against the oligarchs. That's where it's going, and
2009
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it's inevitable. You can't expose this project without having the
2010
02:01:27.479 --> 02:01:31.239
public rise up against it. I mean, how the revolution occurs,
2011
02:01:31.399 --> 02:01:34.880
I don't know, but I know it is occurring. We
2012
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are every day spreading information. It's just becoming. I mean
2013
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the stuff I'm talking about now, Like twenty years ago,
2014
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they would have like scratched their head. No one even
2015
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understood it. Now it's it's going to at least resonate,
2016
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be coherent with everyone who's listening to this. I bet
2017
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everyone has a sense of part of it or all
2018
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of that. They could. They may not agree with everything,
2019
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of course, but they will definitely see it as well. Okay,
2020
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this is this is a pulse of information that makes sense.
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You know, I can get value out of it and
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the the So the main thing is to two things
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is well three one, continue listening to your show and
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supporting it, you know, I mean, there's that, and and
2025
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then secondly, you know Desocratic method, which is the exchange
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of information using logic and reason between ourselves, right, we
2027
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have to help each other think better. We have to
2028
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openly acknowledge that we are in a process of logic
2029
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when we talk to one another. We have to try
2030
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to learn that the egotism that is given to us
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where we don't want to lose arguments and we have
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to win argument this is all nonsense. When we when
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we exchange logic, it's like a spiritual connection between people.
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We are helping people to understand the understanding is what
2035
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is important, not the winning or losing these little petty
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struggles that that we are given to and encouraged to do.
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So there's that the Socratic method based on the information
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that's coming out. And then the first of the most
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important thing is the rebellion in your body. I mean
2040
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they are developing the delta and epsilons with their chemicals, right,
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so you've got absolutely you know, not if there's like
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more than one ingredient, you can't eat the thing. Just
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eat healthy foods, find a way to get the most
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organic food. You can exercise. I mean, the things that
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create physical strength and health are the greatest. They're the
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greatest rebellion because Chris, that's what's being attacked most severely.
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We don't see it. I mean, you know, it's all hidden.
2048
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I mean, of course the vaccine, the vaccines were like
2049
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kind of it came out of the closet. People could
2050
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recognize that that's something that could damage us. But all
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of the think about all the other things that have
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been hidden, all of the food additives, the glypho say,
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which is just an absolute nightmare for the body, which
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is now you know, in all of foods that are
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not organic. And so we've been systematically attacked. I mean,
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Burne's the Freud's nephew, and the propagandists are the oligarchs.
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He's the one that got fluoride into the water systems.
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You see. I mean, this is how far back it goes,
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how specific the attack is. So you know, I mean
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my house man, I got a garden, I got organic produce,
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and I have a Burkie water filter. And you know,
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I'm seventy five years old and I'm pretty spunky. So
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there you go. I'm not talking myself as some kind
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of example, but I am saying I'm you know, ambulatory
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and conscious and I don't have any illnesses, you know,
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and that's because I've been aware for twenty years that
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I was under attack. And I'm not trying to, you know,
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look good. I'm just trying to be good. I'm trying
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to be myself, you know, my actual body. And when
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you do that, you have the power to think better.
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So there you go. So it's pretty simple, you know,
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I mean, eat better foods and try to think better,
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particularly among one another, particularly in thought circles. I mean,
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people are listening to this. Every one of them has
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got someone they talk to about this stuff. Just try
2076
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to say, well, let's maybe atwell's got a point here,
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Let's give it a shot. Let's try to be more
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conscious of the logic that we are using among ourselves
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and how we analyze things. Let's try to be more precise,
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you know, and in venting what is real? What isn't?
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You know?
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They we are under a cloud of it's an illusion
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of history. And so one expression I use is that
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we know more about the future than we do about
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the past. I mean, the future is something at least
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is you know, it's yet to be perverted. We know
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the past is just a lump of sophistry. So forget
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about that. And you know, and then you know, notice
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the expressions that they used to stop our thinking, conspiracy.
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This just always cracks me up. Anti Semitic, holocaust denier,
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as amestic terrorist, domestic terrorists, you know, I mean, I
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I have been called everything. I mean. If you go online,
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you'll see that there's whole websites dedicated to the idea
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I'm a crypto Jew because I wrote Caesar's Messiah. There's
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another whole group that attacks me because I'm I'm I'm
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here to destroy Western civilization. You know, I brought up
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the idea that Shakespeare is written by a woman, and
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then now it's anti Semitism because I'm so spoken about
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like Gaza and this stuff. Look, you know, it's like
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I'm happy to accept all the terms, and I don't.
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I don't really you know when when when I'm when
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I come across this, I always go, I'm glad you
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called me that I am because it's it's not. I
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want to show you that the term is used to
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try to stop the socratic process. See, this is what
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the term is for. Look, all of my ideas I
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could be wrong, and I would, and I know I'm
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wrong about lots of them. But it's a process of
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facts and reasoning and observation. You can't stop it just
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by saying there's something in my head that is like bad.
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We've got to use You've got to keep moving through
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the thing. They just don't want the process to go on.
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They can see everyone can see at this point the
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process is actually starting now. Too many people watching your show, bro,
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They are not there because they can be stopped by
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these little like think no more expressions, right, they just
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can't be so there it is. Well, yeah, no. As
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far as like the future, man, I wish I was
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twenty five, not seventy five. I think we're gonna win.
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I think it's going to be a glorious, you know,
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kind of recreation of the human spirit.
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Yeah, I agree. When looking at the bigger picture of everything,
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do you think the ultimate agenda is a level of depopulation?
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You look back at everything in from a spiritual or
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biblical perspective, you can say that they're going off of
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some kind of playbook from the Book of Revelations to
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try and bring about this apocalyptic event that depopulates the planet,
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whether it's through wars or pandemics or whatever agenda there is.
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Do you think that's the ultimate goal is depopulation and control?
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Yes? Absolutely, and I think that the fact that you
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see the owl as a symbol. Mean, look at the
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Bohemian Grove, the interests of Heemian Grove. They have like
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a cryptic expression from Shakespeare which I could decode, but
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would we'd have to take a whole show.
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To do it.
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But they have the owl. Now where does the owl?
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For the owl is just the owl of Isaiah fifty one.
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The owl appears after the genocide of the Gentiles. And
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then moreover, look at the War scroll and the Dead
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Sea scrolls. Look at how they describe an apocalypse, right,
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they describe a final battle. And then and then just
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look at Deuteronomy, in which you see the the the
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genocide mandated by God of seven ethnicities, right, the gemocides
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these all these people. Well, this is the kind of
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religious structure of the project. Now, are they really gonna
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like kill every you know, uh, person who isn't in
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their lineage? I have no idea. I know that the
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process of their political control involves depopulation. We've already seen
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We've already seen it. We've already seen it world War one,
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world War two, and now you know with with the
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COVID mesth. So you can actually see that depopulation is
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part of it. So yeah, I think we have. And
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it's an important fact because this basically gives us the
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energy of self defense, you know, and and a self preservation.
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And that's that's where we should be looking. You know,
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we should not be complacent. We should not you know, like,
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oh my gosh, and I'm not gonna you know, don't
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want to do this because it's tiring. Look, we're fighting
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for our lives at this point, and you should have
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the people should have the ability to you know, the
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simple rebellions, the trying to be open to discussion and
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using you know, logic and reason with one another. This
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is not everyone can do that, and then the revolution
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inside your body. Stop eating the foods which are part
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of the attack. You get those two things done. I mean,
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from there, you know, the power will just continue to
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develop and grow, you know. I mean, the they are
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depopulating us, and first of all, they're making it so depressed,
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and I mean, i mean just look at the explosion
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and autoimmune diseases. It's just incredible. You know, diabetes, autism,
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you know that, and now even like cancer and myocard dives.
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I mean, all of these diseases are symptoms of the
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fact that our bodies are being attacked. This isn't something
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that's curring from nature. And notice that there isn't even
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any media coverage of this. Isn't that amazing? Isn't it
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amazing that the correlation between like glyphosate and all the
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autoimmune disorders. Why isn't there more publicity about this? I mean,
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here's one my favorite. Why isn't there more media coverage
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about the fact that there has been a sixty percent
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reduction in sperm in Europeans since nineteen fifty Now think
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about that sixty percent, right, So when you say is
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there is it depopulation, We're right in the middle of it.
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We're right in the middle of the process. When you're
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down sixty percent of your sperm, you are being depopulated.
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And notice again, this should be a crisis of the
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highest order. It should be the headline of every media
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outlet in America. Right, we have to do something about
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what's going on in our bodies, and it's silence.
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Right.
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This shows you that there's awareness of it. This shows
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you that this is a conscious attack upon us, right,
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and they want are just trying to keep quiet about
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it until they get the numbers down to where they want.
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Right. Well, let's close on this.
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Do you think the level of awareness, the amount of
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people waking up to everything, may be a deterrent from
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entering into another global conflict like World War three?
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Yeah? I do I think that. Well, first of all,
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the conflicts artificial, yes, I mean they aren't natural. There's
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no reason for their existence. They're just done for depopulation.
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I mean, look at the Ukraine. I mean this is
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just a theatrical The pretense is theatrical, you know. I
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mean obviously NATO is using Ukraine. I mean they're using
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the word to depopulate. Okay, what will deter the f
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final you know, solution for for hate to use the
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expression for you know, like the non oligarch class, what
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will the turret? Turret is the acquisition of political power, Right,
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That's what we have to do. The federal level is
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just been polluted to do anything about. It's just a
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complete Judaeo Masonic, you know, structure. But at the local level,
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you can, i mean get every single scrap of political
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power that you can possibly get. Dogcatcher, school board, sheriff
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is very important, you know, in the United States, mayor councilmen.
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You know, we should all be recognizing that the political
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power is the key here is that that's what they attacked,
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That's what they got control of and then used against us.
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So we have to bubble up with our numbers in
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the areas that we can actually have real elections. I
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mean we can't, you know. I mean, like whether or
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not it's Trump versus Biden again is irrelevant to the
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project against us. They eat both of them are involved
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with it. But at the level of sheriff, which is
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an office that here in California, we had a situation
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where we had a near civil rebellion in that righteous
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sheriffs we're refusing to follow Newsom's mandates concerning like the lockdowns.
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They just said, no, we're not going to do it. Now. This,
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I think put a restriction on what Newsom could do
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in terms of like the power of the mandate because
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the sheriffs wouldn't enforce. Not everywhere, but in four or
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five large counties. The sheriffs were righteous, and they said,
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forget this. Well, okay, there is our path there. It
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is get the sheriffs to be righteous, promote them, get
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city councilmen, supervisors, get the lower tier of political power,
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get that under control, and now you can resist when
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the top down oligarchic constructions to genocide occur.
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Joe, this was fantastic. This is such important information. Before
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we go, remind the audience where they can find all
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your work.
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Just go to Caesars Messiah dot com if you want
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to buy the books. If you want to talk to me,
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just Joe atwell at gmail dot com. I get a
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lot of emails, so I can't get back too quickly
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to everyone, but I do try to answer every single one.
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So just if you have questions or criticisms, please send
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them there and you know, support Chris. That's that would be,
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you know, way to support me.
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Thank you so much. This was great. I'd love to
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do this again in the future. We barely scratch Thanks
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much more we can do.
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There's one hundred hours of stuff you can go over.
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I don't want but I'll be boring your audience, but listen.
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Thank you so much for the opportunity. Chris and I
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hope we can talk again.
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Okay, yes, we definitely will, And until next time, everyone,
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have an excellent evening. We'll talk COO again tomorrow.