FKN Classics Double Feature! Mark Gober - Is Earth Flat? | Rhys Singh Ubbi - Saintly Science

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Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I
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want to welcome back to the show Mark Gober. He
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is author of several books, including An End to Upside-Down Thinking,
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which won the IPPY award for Best Science Book of
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the Year. He is host of the podcast Where Is
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My Mind? Additionally, he serves on the board of the
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Institute of Noetic Sciences. Mark, welcome back. How you doing?
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I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having me.
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Thanks so much for coming back on. I really enjoyed
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our discussion last time. Today, we're going to discuss your
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new book, An Into and Upside Down Cosmos. And as
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we enter this era of discovery and questioning the official
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narratives that we've been presented, there's more and more evidence
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to support the possibility that not only have we been
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deceived about the nature of our systems of governance, but
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the nature of the cosmos and what we're currently existing in.
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And I don't identify as a flat earther, but I
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believe there has been enough evidence presented by independent researchers
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like yourself to indicate, at the least, severe inconsistencies with
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the data being presented in the official narratives. And as
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I was telling you before, this book probably takes the
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most in-depth examination of these controversial topics. And I can't
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wait to share your insights. But it's been a while
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since you've been on. Remind the audience a little bit
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about yourself and your work.
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That's funny.
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I don't think I had this topic on my radar
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when we last talked, interestingly enough. Usually the topics come
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in and then I get hooked. But I.
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Never planned on writing books. My background is in business.
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After graduating from Princeton in 2008, I went into investment
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banking in New York. So I worked during the financial
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crisis in New York and then left in 2010, joined
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a firm first in Boston, but then in Silicon Valley,
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where I spent about 10 years advising technology-focused companies on
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their intellectual property strategy, their business strategy, their technology. So
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that was my world, very much unrelated to what I've
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now started writing about. But I had what you might
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call a spiritual awakening in 2016 while I was still
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working at my firm in Silicon Valley. At the time,
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I was basically an atheist or agnostic. I thought that
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we live in a random and meaningless universe and that
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when you die, that's the end of your consciousness. Certainly
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no paranormal phenomenon. That was not part of my worldview.
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And then initially listening to podcasts and then reading books
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and scientific papers, I realized that there was a whole
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part of reality, the majority of it, that I just
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wasn't aware of. So my whole worldview shifted. I wrote
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my first book, An End to Upside-Down Thinking, which was
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published in 2018. And then after becoming a partner at
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my firm, right before everything happened in 2020, I actually
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left the firm. And long story short, I've written six
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books in addition to.
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The first one.
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And they span the topics of UFOs, politics, medicine, and
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the latest one is cosmology.
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So what was it that brought you to write this
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particular book?
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I had heard people question... mainstream cosmology for a while.
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I think it's just inevitable as, you know, in this
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community of people who ask questions, it comes up. So
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for several years, I heard some people say, Earth is flat.
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And then I would hear other people say, well, I'm
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not really sure what Earth is, but I don't think
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it's a spinning globe, or, you know, various things like that.
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And I just was busy with other topics and never
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had time to explore it. Because when people, I would
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hear people talk about it, especially the ones that were
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skeptical of the mainstream narrative, I'd say, well, that's a
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really interesting point, but I would need to like look
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into a whole area of science that I haven't spent
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much time in a while. I'd have to just reconfigure
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my way of thinking. So I put it off to
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the side and I wrote the one. So the Cosmos
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book is the seventh. The sixth one is called an
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end to upside down medicine. And that was published November, 2023.
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And I realized a lot of the people that were
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asking the same questions that I asked about medicine were
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were coming to very similar conclusions about cosmology, meaning they
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were challenging the mainstream narrative. Often they'd say, I don't
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know exactly what this place is, but I know it's
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not what they're telling us. There are too many inconsistencies.
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And then what they often said is that, look, if
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you examine the problems with medicine and germ theory in particular,
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there are often logical fallacies that people engage in, meaning
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they'll see data and they'll jump to a conclusion about
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why the data is explained But there might be other
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answers relative to the conclusion they came up with. So
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the fallacy that's often referenced is called affirming the consequent.
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And the basic way of explaining it is, it's true
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that if it rains, the grass will be wet outside.
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that it rained. What's another explanation? Well, there could have
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been a sprinkler system. There could have been dew. There
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could have been children running by who poured buckets of water.
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poured water and then they snapped back out so you
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never even saw them. The point is we could sit
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here and come up with a million different explanations about
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why the grass is wet, but what happens in science,
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they often latch onto one conclusion. And we see this
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a lot in germ theory with the model of a virus,
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this intracellular parasite that allegedly causes disease, when there are
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reasons to question that narrative too. And the scientists often
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jump to the conclusion that it's this virus particle because
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they observe certain things, whereas it could be explained by
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other reasons. I'll give one basic example because this is
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a really important one. You go to a party and
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a bunch of people get sick afterwards with similar symptoms.
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And you're like, look, we caught something. When you say caught,
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that's very specific because you're referring to a microbe that
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goes from person to person that's infecting your cells somehow
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and causing these symptoms. Is that one hypothesis?
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But what else could have happened? Could there have been
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toxins in the building that you were in? Maybe there
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was something bad in the food people ate or the drinks.
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Maybe there were a lot of EMFs and 5G or
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people were sensitive to that. Maybe there were similar psychological
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shocks that people underwent and it caused them to end
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up having physical symptoms because they had this emotional issue
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that they weren't correlating with the physical illness. So I
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give these examples because when you apply this way of
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thinking of jumping to a causal explanation without considering everything else,
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you can get locked into a model very easily. And
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the people who were saying this about medicine, I thought
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they did such a good job with it. They said, okay,
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you got to look at cosmology. And then I had
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some people actually nudge me. And this started in April, 2024.
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I read a book called A Fool's Wisdom by Stephen A.
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Young.
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He's a theoretical physics PhD. And he wrote this book,
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A Fool's Wisdom. And in the book, it was not
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just about cosmology. It was about many other things too,
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but he had a few chapters on cosmology. And he said,
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people came to me with this flat earth theory and
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I thought they were crazy. And I was going to
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debunk it with my fancy PhD. And I've spent years
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on it, and I can't. And he said in the book,
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I don't know with 100% confidence what Earth is, but
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I know with 100% confidence it's not a spinning globe.
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And I paused because I said, to have that level
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of education and come to that conclusion and write about
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it publicly, that's a big deal. So I kind of said, okay,
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that's interesting. Then I went to a conference a few
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days later called Confluence in Texas, which I recommend to
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your audience members. Really great conference, open-minded people. It's run
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by Alex Zeck and The Way Forward. But there were
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a bunch of people there who were asking similar questions
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about cosmology and ultimately nudged me to look at it.
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That's the short version. When I started looking at it,
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I said, there's a lot here that this is really important.
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And actually what happened when I was at Confluence, one
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of the conversations I had was with a few people,
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including Urasimus from Here for the Truth podcast, saying, look,
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a lot of people here are talking about flat earth
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or challenging cosmology, but what does it really matter? Because
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People still have to pay the bills. They're dealing with
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health issues. Why does it matter what the shape of
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the earth is? And as I've looked into it, I
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think this is actually hugely important. Because if we don't
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know exactly where we are, how can we understand our
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history or what we're doing here? And the last thing
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I'll say before I pause is that a lot of
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my explorations up until this point, writing the Cosmos book,
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is that I was asking, who are we? Why are
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we here? And I still am asking that. But what
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I was not asking is, what does it mean.
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To be here?
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Where is here? Where are we? What is this place?
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I was very much stuck in the cosmology I had
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been taught of a Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago,
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things flying through space. Earth is a spinning sphere rotating
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on an axis and revolving around the sun. The sun's
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at the center of our solar system, and we're part
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of this expanding universe. And that's the basic cosmology. I
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never really thought to question that.
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Great introduction. And as you mentioned, there's multi layers to
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peel through when it comes to trying to understand this.
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And there's many places where we could begin. We could
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begin with the NASA deceptions, what people could observe with
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their own eyes, but where did you begin with your research?
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I did look at the NASA stuff, even though it's
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chapter six of the book, because it's a natural question
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anyone would ask is what are you guys talking about?
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We have this footage.
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Look at the pictures.
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You can go online and see what's going on with it.
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And I want to say two things. First, the discussion
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that we're having today and the one that I have
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in the book is about cosmology. It's not just about
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the shape of the Earth. It's what is this whole cosmos?
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So even if you want to talk about NASA's pictures,
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that doesn't tell you what happened allegedly 13.8 billion years ago,
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which they're telling us that that happened, right? This big
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bang that caused the massive inflation and so forth in
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the expanding universe. So it's bigger than just that. And
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it even goes into things like geocentrism versus heliocentrism. Is
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Earth at the center or is the Sun at the center?
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Of course, most people believe heliocentric, the Sun's at the center,
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that's the mainstream cosmology. but just because we saw a
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few pictures doesn't tell us those sorts of things. Even
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Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and many others, they will say
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very openly, and I quote them in the book, and
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other physicists, they say, when you look at the observations
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of things in the sky, you cannot tell whether Earth
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is at the center or the Sun's at the center,
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just based on those observations. So, There's more than just
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the shape.
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That's point number one.
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Point number two is, let's say we are talking about
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the shape and more things that are local to Earth itself.
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I was just shocked to find that there wasn't the
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compelling evidence that I would expect, given how convinced most
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people are that we live on this spinning, spherical-shaped thing.
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Because to me, you'd expect to have direct evidence of that,
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which would be, very simply, 24-hour footage of the sphere
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of Earth doing a full rotation. Continuous footage with no editing.
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We don't have that.
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What do we often get? We get snippets from satellites
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or other things that the space agencies put up where
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it looks like there's some curvature, and they say, look,
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we're on a spinning globe. What are some of the problems?
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Number one, the agencies will admit that the last image
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we have, and this is a still image, a picture,
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is from one of the 1972 moon missions. of Earth
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from the moon, allegedly. And everything after that has been
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some kind of artist's rendition or a composite or a CGI.
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the blue marble picture that we see on all the
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iPhones that really embedded a picture of Earth in many
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people's minds, that was photoshopped. That was his rendition of
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various pieces of data and other things, but that was
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not just a pure picture. That's really important to acknowledge.
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1972 was the last one. But even the 1972 picture,
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if you take that as legitimate, it is of a disc.
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It's a circle.
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You see part.
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I mean, if it's a spinning globe, shouldn't we see
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the full sphere? There's a distinction between a circle and
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a sphere. That's really important, too. Some people get caught
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in the circular aspect. But we need a sphere, three-dimensional. OK,
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what are some of the other issues? Fish-eye lenses. Fish-eye
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lens creates artificial curvature. So you could see an image
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of something. And they say, look, we're showing the sphere.
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who went up high in space allegedly and took these
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pictures and it showed the curve of Earth, but he
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used a fisheye lens. That was later admitted because it
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was an extreme curvature. So we always have to be
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aware of that. Another thing, I had a friend recently,
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get on a plane and I see the curve myself.
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do you see circular curvature or spherical curvature? Spherical curvature
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would be down and away from you in every direction.
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of circular curvature, but it has to do with the
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way that our eyes perceive. And this is a really
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critical point that changed everything for me. Because our eyes
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see in what's known as azimuthal grid of vision, that's
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the technical term, where basically we see in a dome shape.
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where it looks like it's a circle everywhere around us,
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but it's not a sphere. And it has to do
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with limits in our vision. And it has also to
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above you, if you're looking down that straight road, it
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will look like the streetlights are going down. It looks
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like they're going down, but they're actually all the same height.
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when you apply that perspective where our eyes actually distort things,
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because they're all the same height, but it looks like
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they're lower. Wait, that's weird. You end up with this
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azimuthal grid of vision where you see circularity. You see
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this dome where it doesn't actually exist in that way.
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While we're in the inconsistencies of what we're told about
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the science of our planet, Versus what we can observe
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with our eyes. What are some other fundamental problems that
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you found when it comes to not only our local
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perception here of what we're on, but astronomy and some
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of the science behind that?
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made like the scientists want to tell us what a
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star is allegedly made of. That's like X thousand light
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years away. with any certainty or what happened at the
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big bang 13.8 billion years ago. And they often, the
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messages that maybe it comes from the media too. There's
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a desire to have more certainty than there actually is.
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to these conclusions of, oh yeah, well, it's a star
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this far away when it could be many other explanations.
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that don't quite fit, they just get brushed aside. So
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I'll give one example. There's something called the cosmic microwave background,
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which anyone in your audience can look up. It's this
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very famous idea that there is a background radiation that
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can be measured. And it came from the Big Bang 13.8
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billion years ago. And based on that background radiation that
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you can measure, and there are pictures of it ever online,
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we can infer what happened in the early times. But
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the model of the cosmic microwave background and the big
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bang leads us to the view that Earth is revolving
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around the sun in the solar system after billions of
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years of movement. Not that Earth's at the center and
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not that Earth is stationary. Heaven forbid, right? That's actually
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a lot of scientists who I quote in the book,
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they really prefer for Earth not to have a special place.
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maybe there's a creator, maybe there's an intelligence. But the
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cosmic microwave background has anomalies in it. If Earth is
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not at the center, it should be homogenous and it
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should be isotropic, meaning it doesn't have a preferred direction.
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where it's not homogenous and it's anisotropic. It has a
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preferred direction pointing toward Earth. And actually these anomalies are
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called the axis of evil by some scientists, which is
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pretty interesting because it shows they don't want anything suggesting
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that Earth might have a preferred place in the cosmos.
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to sweep aside, because they're just little ones, they have
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a big impact on how we might look at everything.
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back when I was an undergrad at Princeton. I didn't
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major in it, but I was so fascinated in the cosmos.
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about the cosmic microwave background. And some of the observations
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were in the area in Princeton, in the New Jersey area.
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it could suggest, I said, wow, how could it be
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that these mainstream, really brilliant physicists at Princeton and elsewhere,
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they're not looking at the anomalies in the same way
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or they're not considering the possibility. Wait, maybe Earth is
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at the center. So that's one big one. Another one
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I like talking about, and I actually start my book
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with this, is about dark matter. And interestingly, my very
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first book published in 2018, An End to Upside-Down Thinking,
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I started it off by saying this very thing. that
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according to mainstream scientists, 96% of the universe is made
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out of dark matter and dark energy. That means mainstream
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physicists and cosmologists will acknowledge that only 4% of the
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universe is stuff that we know. But what I didn't
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realize when I wrote that first book is the problems
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with that 96%. And I'll start with dark matter. That's
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the one that I focus more on the book because
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of some recent findings. Dark matter was allegedly discovered in
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1933 by an astronomer, His name is Fritz Zwicky, and
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he was observing a cluster of galaxies called the Coma Cluster.
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there was under 1% of the mass that should have
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been there under Einstein's relativity theory. And Einstein's relativity theory
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is basically explaining gravity in a refined way, that space-time
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is bending when you put mass. Mass in the universe
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actually bends space-time. which is distinct from Newton's idea of gravity.
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Newton's idea was that mass is attracting mass. An apple
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falls to the ground because the mass of Earth is
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much bigger than the mass of the apple, so the
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apple comes down. There were some problems with that, though.
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in the sky, so it's not a comprehensive model. So
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then Einstein's relativity comes in and says, actually, it's not
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mass attracting mass. It's mass is bending spacetime. So it
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looks like mass is attracting mass, but actually, mass is
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bending spacetime. But then we observed... Fritz Zwicky observed this
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coma cluster galaxy. He's like, wait, in order for Einstein's
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gravity to work, there needs to be a lot more
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mass here because it's not adding up. And it was
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under 1% of the mass that was needed. This wasn't
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just a little anomaly. This was like way off. So
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what did the scientists say? They didn't say maybe gravity's wrong.
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Maybe Einstein's gravity is wrong. We have to rethink relativity. No,
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they said we discovered dark matter. There must be matter
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there that we don't understand. And that can explain everything.
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him in my book, famous astrophysicist says, this is one
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of the biggest unsolved mysteries that we have out there,
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this whole dark matter thing. What's happened more recently? An
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astrophysics professor named Pavel Krupa, anyone can look him up.
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It's spelled K-R-O-U-P-A. He's got a Wikipedia page, highly credible
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astrophysicist from the University of Bonn in Germany. He is
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out there. There are articles on this and he's done
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an interview on it saying, look, my colleagues and I
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have spent over two decades on this trying to see
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if the observations that you'd expect under dark matter are there,
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and it's not. We have falsified dark matter. It's not there.
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We have to rethink cosmology completely.
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So think about this.
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It's really like a house of cards, right? Because Newton's
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gravity was there to explain why an apple falls. No
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one's denying that an apple falls. The question is why?
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Is it mass attracts mass? No, that's got problems. Then
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it was Einstein's mass is bending space-time, and that's our
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quote-unquote gravity. But in order for that to work, you
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need to have this dark matter that's been falsified. So
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now we've got a big problem everywhere throughout cosmology. And
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that to me was reason to say, Mark, you've got
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to be open-minded to everything because the current cosmology doesn't work.
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And before I pause, I want to say one more
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really important thing. I want to give your audience this
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quote from Michio Kaku, who is a mainstream physicist, like well-known.
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He's acknowledging what's known as the lack of a unifying
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theory in physics. Basically, the two leading theories in physics,
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which is Einstein's relativity and quantum mechanics, which are supposed
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to explain so much, they're incompatible. So when you bring
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them together, the equations basically blow up. And that's a problem.
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That means we can't explain reality. That's basically what it means,
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aside from the dark matter stuff. And this is what
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Michio Kaku says. There is a crisis in cosmology. Usually
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in science, if we're off by a factor of 2
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or a factor of 10, we call that horrible. We
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say something is wrong with the theory. However, in cosmology,
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we're off by a factor of 10 to the 120th power.
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That is one with 120 zeros after it. This is
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the largest mismatch between theory and experiment in the history
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of science. And what I would say is therefore we
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need to be open to everything. We can't trust anything
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in the modern cosmology because by their own admissions, it's wrong.
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According to our ancient past, we at one time did
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believe that we were on a flat plane. This was
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adapted at some point by different scientists and astronomers. How
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and why would they go through this much trouble to
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create an entire science based on nonsense?
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It's such a good question. And my first part of
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my answer is that I think a lot of people
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who propagate false narratives don't realize they're doing it. They're
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doing it innocently because they believe certain assumptions that they
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haven't examined. I see this a lot in medicine with
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regard to virology. I've asked some doctors, how do you
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know a virus exists and causes disease? And they'll say, well,
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there's this PCR test and so forth. But I haven't
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found anyone who actually knows the fundamental study in 1954,
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the Enders and Peebles study that jumped to a conclusion
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using the affirming the consequent logical fallacy I talked about.
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And they weren't aware of a lot of these things.
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So you end up with people who are professionals and
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they've got these degrees and they're basing everything off of assumptions.
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your question because there are some people that have to know.
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It could be a small group. I don't know what
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it is. And then it becomes, well, why would they
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be propagating this? Now, with regard to cosmology, I think
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there's layers to it. There could be, let's say we
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have the wrong map of Earth. That could mean that
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there are resources that are being hidden from us, which
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means there could be a financial reason to do it.
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And coming from the business world, that always makes sense.
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There's a financial reason. You could jump through a lot
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of hoops if your livelihood is dependent on it. If
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you can keep people dependent on energy or who knows
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what else, because you've hidden things, that would be valuable
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to do. But I think there might be something more
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fundamental on a spiritual level. And that's where all my
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work has gone since my first book and end upside
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down thinking. My basic metaphysics is that we are spiritual
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beings and that our consciousness survives after we die and
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that we're all part of it. We have an individual consciousness,
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but we're also connected as part of a bigger consciousness,
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something like that. And what can be done with an
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incorrect cosmology is basically hide who we are or hide
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our significance. So if we believe that we're this tiny
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speck in a massive universe and we don't have a
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special place, that's the Copernican principle. We don't have a
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special place. We don't occupy anything unique. Then we might
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believe that we're less important than we actually are. And
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that could have an effect on our consciousness. And if
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our consciousness is a fundamental part of physical reality, what
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does it mean for reality if we're all steered in
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the wrong direction? I think that's one part of it.
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And another part of it might just be that if
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we are living in a massive lie, basically, where we
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believe our location is not what it is, then we might,
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on a subconscious level, know that we're living in a falsehood.
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And maybe that keeps us less healthy. It keeps us weaker.
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And it keeps us in a place where we're not
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trusting our senses. So what do I mean by that?
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I mean, if we weren't told by scientists the following things,
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I'm not sure we'd believe it. We're told that Earth
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is simultaneously spinning on a tilted axis at roughly 1,000
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miles per hour at the equator, which is faster than
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the speed of sound. Yet at the poles at the
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bottom and top of the sphere, it's barely moving at all.
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So we have these variations in speed, and also we
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don't feel any of it. And at the same time,
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Earth is free falling around the sun at over 66,000
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miles per hour. We never feel any of that. And
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we are revolving around the Milky Way galaxy at over 500,000
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miles an hour, all while moving outward in this expanding
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universe at over a million miles an hour. And we're
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told that, well, the motion is so constant that you
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never feel any of it. There's not even a little
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bump that you feel, and you're just a speck on
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a tiny ball. It takes a lot to believe all
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of that versus what does it feel like? It feels
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like we're in a stationary place and we never see
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the down and away curvature. We never see spherical curvature.
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So our senses would tell us we don't live on
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a sphere. We might just live on a big plane
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or something. I don't know what, but it's not what
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we're being. It's not that model. So, but we're told
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disobey your senses. the experts know what's best. So there
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might be a spiritual harm in getting people to live
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in falsehoods where they're disobeying their senses, maybe where we're
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just so confused that we can't figure out what the
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powers that be are actually doing to us because we're
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so out of alignment.
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Now, when you mentioned the speed and rate that we're
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traveling and spinning, many would argue that it's the same
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effect as being in a vehicle or traveling in a
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plane where You're not feeling the inertia even though you
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are traveling at a very rapid rate of speed. What
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would you say to that?
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Yeah, I think those examples, which I've heard and I've
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had to think about myself, when you're on a plane
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and there's any bit of turbulence, you feel it. So
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changes in motion, acceleration, deceleration, you'll end up feeling it.
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Same thing in a car that's not moving very fast.
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You feel a tiny bump in the road. So we're
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basically asked to believe that we're moving in just perfectly
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constant motion in all these ways. There's never any variation
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in it. And Earth allegedly has an elliptical orbit around
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the sun, which wouldn't be perfectly constant. So I just
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think you'd have to believe in something that doesn't seem
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to align with belief. Whereas if there's Let's think of
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an earthquake. We feel an earthquake. Like if there's any
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change in motion, we don't have earthquakes all the time,
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but there are some instances where just things change a
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little bit. And in which case you feel it, but
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we never even can contemplate that we'd have to worry
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about even a blip on the radar of our motion.
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I mean, the surgeons aren't having to think about, oh,
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what if earth moves in a different way? And I'm
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this performing this precise surgery or people who are building
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these sculptures where the rocks are put on top of
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each other. You know, any movement would make that thing
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fall or playing a game of Jenga. We never have
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to account for it because we're just told to believe
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that it's just perfectly constant rather than just saying, well,
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it's stationary because it seems like it is.
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This is so interesting. Now, in your book and in general,
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you've been communicating with chat GPT. And in many instances,
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you have gotten chat GP to, in a sense, agree
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and question some of the science that it was being presented.
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Yes.
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It's a useful research tool just to see what the
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mainstream is going to say about anything because that's chat GPT,
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whether it's virology, consciousness, cosmology, it starts with consensus, but
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it's also a logical machine. So when it's presented with
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information and given the source material, sometimes it will be
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forced to acknowledge certain things. And it can take some
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nudging where sometimes it will refuse to, but then if
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you say, well, no, If this, then this, you have
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to admit it. Eventually it will. And this could be
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Google's Gemini AI or Anthropic by Claude. There are many
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AI engines that I've used and I've presented it with
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a lot of this information. And it admits, I cannot
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confirm that Earth is a spinning ball. And in one
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of them, I can't remember exactly what it was. I
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post these on my Instagram if your audience is interested,
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markgober underscore author, where it's basically said that I think
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it's a very low probability that Earth is a spinning
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ball given everything you presented, where I just like took
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parts of my book and plugged it in. And there
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are different ways of playing with chat GPT if your
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audience is interested. Like sometimes I find that if you
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present it piece by piece, you say, okay, here's this
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piece of evidence, like the dark matter falsification. I want
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you to walk me through the implications of that because
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really we don't know if gravity is real. And eventually
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they admit that. And if you admit gravity is not real,
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then all sorts of cosmologies become open to possibility. And
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then you present it with something else and then something else.
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And if you do it piecemeal like that, eventually it
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starts to break down versus putting everything in one prompt.
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So they're just different techniques. The point is, chat GPT
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and others they all end up being forced to admit
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that the current cosmology is not correct and they do
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the same thing with virology and otherwise.
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Before we move on to what's beyond our atmosphere let's
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talk about what people are calling the firmament The observations
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that we can make, even with rocket launches, at least
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in most more recent rocket launches that SpaceX have made,
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you can observe the rocket until a certain point, and
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it appears to curve off and not continue to go
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straight up into outer space. I remember the old rocket
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launches when I was growing up. You would at least
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be able to see it to a certain point. It
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always had straight up. But I've seen different videos that
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cannot be confirmed or denied where it shows the rocket
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is hitting something whenever it reaches a certain height. And
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I'm just curious as to your thoughts as to what
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is surrounding what we're on.
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Your point about rocket footage is really important and intriguing
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to me because one of the complaints of, let's say,
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cosmology skeptics, globe skeptics, they'll say the footage is not continuous.
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When you see the rocket going up and then it
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cuts out and you see the footage from the perspective
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of the rocket, let's see it all continuous footage going
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into space. And we don't have that direct evidence. And
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some people would say, well, that's okay. That just has
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to do with the way the videography goes. But in
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the absence of that, there are issues with physics too,
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in terms of the current narrative. The current narrative is
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that we live, we coexist peacefully next to a near
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infinite vacuum of space. And a vacuum in this context
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means basically almost no pressure there. And things are floating
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around in space. And when you get high enough up,
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things are floating around. And it exists next to Earth,
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which has an atmosphere. But under the current cosmology, Earth
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is not in a closed system. So the atmosphere is
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sitting next to this vacuum that has low pressure. Our
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atmosphere is not as low pressure as the near-infinite vacuum
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of space. So you end up with this differential. It's
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known as a pressure gradient vacuum. where you've got a
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vacuum and you've got a system that's supposed to be open,
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but wait a second, why isn't our atmosphere flowing out
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into space? Because that's what we observe in basic pressure physics.
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And the example that's often given is if you have
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a can of soda, you open the can of soda
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and inside the can, there's a high pressure, there's higher
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pressure in the soda can than there is outside. So
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when you open the can, it makes a loud noise.
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because the higher pressure from inside the cans flowing out
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to equalize basically to reach this more harmonious state. And that's,
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it's known as diffusion, diffusion of gas. So the question becomes, well,
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why doesn't that happen with our atmosphere? Shouldn't our atmosphere
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be diffusing out into the lower pressure system, just like
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the gas particles in the soda can do when you
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open it up because it's higher pressure in the can,
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then you open it up and it moves out to
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the lower pressure. Why isn't that happening? with our atmosphere
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compared to the vacuum of space. And this should be
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way more extreme than the soda can and the air
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around it because we're talking about a near infinite vacuum.
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This is massively low pressure stuff. And so there should
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be a lot of basically energy to try to equalize
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this differential. But it doesn't happen that way. So what
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do scientists say? They say that gravity holds in our
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atmosphere and therefore it can coexist peacefully. But there are
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many people, including Stephen A. Young, who I mentioned. He
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wrote A Fool's Wisdom, the theoretical physics PhD. He says, uh-uh,
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that doesn't make any sense. Basically, our atmosphere should be
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violently pulled out by this differential. So that leads people
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to say, well, maybe we are actually in an enclosed
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system because that would make sense. But then it also
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means we don't necessarily have to have a vacuum of space.
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We could have some kind of a fluid medium beyond
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this enclosure. But in any event... There must be some
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kind of enclosure under the current cosmology because you can't
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have the vacuum next to our atmosphere. And this enclosure
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is often known as the firmament. And it's described in
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the Bible. The Bible talks about the waters above and
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waters below, which leads people to believe there isn't this
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vacuum of space. But it becomes complicated because then it's like, well,
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what's the narrative of space agencies and SpaceX? Because they're
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telling us things are happening based on a cosmology of gravity,
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of Einstein's relativity, of the vacuum of space and all
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this stuff. So to me, that was one of the
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light bulbs that went off. Is there telling us a
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narrative of space that we can show based on just
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normal physics doesn't make sense? There's a mismatch here. But
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your question still remains, what is above us? I mean,
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I don't think we really know for sure. There was
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something known as Operation Fishbowl and Operation Dominic, which occurred
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decades ago of these alleged nuclear weapons being shot up
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into the sky by the government. Like, why were they
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doing that? Some say, well, they were trying to send
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these explosives up there to see if there's a firmament enclosure.
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But until we go up there and actually observe for ourselves,
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I don't know if we can know with certainty what's there.
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There's been some very interesting discussion about our satellites that
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are actually being launched on balloons and they may not
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be as high up in the atmosphere as we're being told.
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What are your thoughts about that?
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Yeah, it's another one. I'm not quite sure. I think
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there are lights up there in the sky moving around.
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But the question is, what's the mechanism by which they're there?
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Are there sadaloons? And actually, I do quote in the
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book examples of this from government agencies. They have sent
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satellites up with balloons, balloon technology. But it's hard to
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know exactly what's going on up there because there could
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be technologies that the public is not aware of, like
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anti-gravitic quote-unquote technology where they're using who knows what kind
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of electrostatic type technologies. There's something I mentioned in the
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book called the Hutchinson effect, where he was able to
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make large objects levitate using electricity, basically. So there are
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these properties of electrostatics that might be able to allow
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objects to move up in the sky. Also, the introduction
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of ether, which used to be known as the fifth element,
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and it was essentially taken out of our physics based
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on an interpretation of of a study in 1887 called
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the Mickelson-Morley experiment, and also an experiment several years before
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by George Airy, which is known as Airy's failure. But
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these two studies, if they're interpreted a different way, could
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mean that we do have an ether. So some call
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it Airy's success. But if there's an ether, there could
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be ether-based technologies whereby you could have machinery that's up
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in the sky. My point is that we need to
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be creative in understanding what's up there and how it's
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being operated up there. And it might be some combination
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of a lot of different things. There could be some balloons.
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There could be some using technologies that we don't fully understand.
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I do think there's stuff in the sky floating around.
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I just don't know exactly what it is. But some
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have claimed that basically based on the size of what
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we're told satellites are, we wouldn't be able to see
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00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.900
them as brightly as they appear in the sky based
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00:36:49.940 --> 00:36:52.000
on their elevation. And I do mention that in the book.
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But it's one of those areas I don't fully understand
716
00:36:54.619 --> 00:36:56.550
what's going on with it. But I don't think it's...
717
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.420
I don't think it throws out these questions of cosmology,
718
00:37:03.409 --> 00:37:04.630
if you know what I mean. Like, I think we
719
00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:06.570
can still question the cosmology and there still could be
720
00:37:06.590 --> 00:37:07.750
stuff floating up there in the sky.
721
00:37:08.750 --> 00:37:13.530
What about impact events, meteors, asteroids? I personally have never
722
00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:16.789
seen one hit the ground. I've seen shooting stars. I've
723
00:37:16.829 --> 00:37:21.059
seen what may appear to be meteors in the sky.
724
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:26.139
But again, I've never witnessed an impact event, but we
725
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.260
hear about this quite often. I've believe that there have
726
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.300
people who have witnessed this. First of all, where is
727
00:37:32.380 --> 00:37:34.639
this coming from and what do you think that we're
728
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:35.960
witnessing when we're seeing this?
729
00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:39.469
Well, we run into very similar questions of problems of
730
00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:43.489
logical fallacies, affirming the consequent. Something fell from the sky,
731
00:37:43.530 --> 00:37:47.369
therefore it came from outer space. Is that true? Maybe.
732
00:37:47.630 --> 00:37:49.889
It could be. But what other things could explain that?
733
00:37:49.929 --> 00:37:54.110
I don't know. There's government ballistic technologies, other civilians, people
734
00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:56.559
running tests. There's a lot of reasons why Some people
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00:37:56.579 --> 00:37:58.659
even speculate if we do have some kind of a firmament,
736
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.440
there could be things that fall. I'm not saying I
737
00:38:00.460 --> 00:38:02.719
know what the answer is, but just because something fell
738
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from above, which like you point out accurately, most people
739
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.199
have never seen that actually happen. But we don't know why.
740
00:38:09.659 --> 00:38:11.659
That's point number one. But then also we do have
741
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.699
these quote unquote craters. And I say quote unquote crater
742
00:38:14.739 --> 00:38:16.960
because crater implies that there was an impact event that
743
00:38:17.019 --> 00:38:21.570
caused the formation. But especially for the big craters, if
744
00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:24.110
there was that big impact event, you would expect the
745
00:38:24.139 --> 00:38:28.409
thing that caused that massive crater to be there. Because
746
00:38:28.429 --> 00:38:30.409
if it's that big, it doesn't just move on its own.
747
00:38:30.429 --> 00:38:32.409
And there wouldn't just be little pebbles. You would expect
748
00:38:32.449 --> 00:38:35.150
some kind of massive thing that's never found. The other
749
00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:38.889
thing with these alleged craters is that they have, it's
750
00:38:38.949 --> 00:38:42.190
as if the thing would have fallen straight down. There
751
00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:45.469
aren't skid marks. Because if we do live on a sphere,
752
00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:48.880
shouldn't these meteors or asteroids, even if they're small, shouldn't
753
00:38:48.889 --> 00:38:51.739
they be coming in at all angles? Or like shooting
754
00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:54.340
stars even. It's not exactly what you're asking, but it's related.
755
00:38:54.539 --> 00:38:56.440
If we're on a sphere, shouldn't they sometimes be coming
756
00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:59.940
up from the horizon? No, all this stuff, it doesn't
757
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.000
really match that. So we would expect more variation in,
758
00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:08.099
let's just say, shooting star motion. And we would expect
759
00:39:08.139 --> 00:39:11.980
more variation in these crater impact things where there'd be
760
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.079
more skid marks and we'd be able to see the
761
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.719
thing that impacted it. But we see much more uniformity,
762
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.090
which might mean, and some have speculated, that these are
763
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:23.119
just geological formations. Who knows if we're talking about past civilizations,
764
00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:26.480
maybe these were something like that. But even like geysers,
765
00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:29.929
I quote in my book that geysers, when they're not
766
00:39:30.030 --> 00:39:32.250
active geysers might look a lot like what a crater
767
00:39:32.269 --> 00:39:35.449
looks like So there's a lot of other explanations versus
768
00:39:35.510 --> 00:39:38.159
just the things coming from us from outer space.
769
00:39:39.469 --> 00:39:44.980
I Find it humorous at times the mental gymnastics that
770
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.269
are attempted when trying to explain eclipse mechanics and and
771
00:39:49.329 --> 00:39:52.409
how this works. It never will make sense to me,
772
00:39:52.449 --> 00:39:55.860
and it never can be explained in a way that
773
00:39:56.469 --> 00:40:01.119
could logically fit any of the narratives that we're being told.
774
00:40:01.219 --> 00:40:04.280
So I'd love to get your thoughts on, first of all,
775
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.539
what doesn't make sense about what we're being told about
776
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.679
the eclipse and what we could be really seeing here?
777
00:40:10.699 --> 00:40:15.030
Okay, I'll start with what doesn't make sense, because I
778
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:17.389
have an easier time with that. And you're actually raising
779
00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:20.639
an important point here, which is that It's not necessary
780
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.889
to come up with an alternative model when trying to
781
00:40:23.969 --> 00:40:27.510
falsify one model. And people do get confused with that.
782
00:40:27.570 --> 00:40:29.190
They're like, look, if you can't tell me what the
783
00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:31.150
right answer is, then I'm just going to stick with
784
00:40:31.210 --> 00:40:34.989
what I believe the mainstream says. That's not logical. And
785
00:40:35.010 --> 00:40:36.590
the example I give in my book is, let's say
786
00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:39.389
you're taking a multiple choice test in high school and
787
00:40:39.429 --> 00:40:41.050
you have a team and everyone on the team has
788
00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:42.530
to agree on the answer that you come up with.
789
00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:46.469
And you go out and you say, look, the answers
790
00:40:46.510 --> 00:40:49.260
are either A, B, C, or D. And your team
791
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:50.679
comes to you and says, we've spent a lot of
792
00:40:50.699 --> 00:40:53.539
time on this. We think answer is option A. And
793
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.539
you say, actually, I've spent all week on this and
794
00:40:55.579 --> 00:40:58.780
I can show you exactly how option A has been falsified.
795
00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:01.679
And they say, look, you make some good points, but
796
00:41:02.289 --> 00:41:04.309
if you can't tell me if it's B, C, or D,
797
00:41:04.889 --> 00:41:06.889
then we're just going to go with option A. And
798
00:41:06.909 --> 00:41:09.610
then I say, well, like, I can't tell you if
799
00:41:09.630 --> 00:41:10.989
it's B, C, or D. I haven't done the work
800
00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:12.949
on that yet, but I just know it's option A.
801
00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:15.260
It's irrational to say we're going to stick with A
802
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:16.579
because you don't know if it's B, C, or D.
803
00:41:17.019 --> 00:41:22.380
So with that preface... the eclipses. There's something called a
804
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.760
Selenelian eclipse. It's a type of lunar eclipse where the
805
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:26.900
Earth is supposed to be getting in the middle of
806
00:41:27.699 --> 00:41:29.960
the Sun and the Moon and causes the eclipse. But
807
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.119
the Selenelian eclipse is one in which the eclipsed Moon
808
00:41:33.139 --> 00:41:36.590
and the Sun are visible at the same time. It
809
00:41:36.610 --> 00:41:40.469
shouldn't happen. And what mainstream science says, and I quote
810
00:41:40.510 --> 00:41:42.909
some science article, like a mainstream science article, and they say,
811
00:41:42.929 --> 00:41:45.750
this should be impossible. It seems like it's impossible. But
812
00:41:45.789 --> 00:41:49.639
the explanation is, refractions. The light is bending, so what
813
00:41:49.659 --> 00:41:52.719
you're seeing is a mirage, which to many people, including me,
814
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.050
sounds just a bit like a rationalization. That means what
815
00:41:55.090 --> 00:41:57.710
you're seeing is an illusion. It's not actually there. What
816
00:41:57.730 --> 00:41:59.909
you're seeing, it's below the horizon, but it refracts up
817
00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:02.630
so it looks like... And that's the explanation they need
818
00:42:02.650 --> 00:42:06.010
to give under the globe cosmology. Another interesting anomaly is
819
00:42:06.050 --> 00:42:09.820
that with eclipses, when you have the sun and moon
820
00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:15.619
looking almost like they're the exact same size, but the moon...
821
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.300
is only 238,000 miles away, allegedly, and the sun's supposed
822
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.010
to be 93 million miles away, and the ratio between
823
00:42:23.050 --> 00:42:26.869
their sizes and distances just happens to be such that
824
00:42:26.909 --> 00:42:28.849
it looks like they're the same size when there's an eclipse.
825
00:42:29.550 --> 00:42:32.070
That seems pretty far-fetched, because in reality, it looks like
826
00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:35.409
they're the same size and probably the same distance, maybe
827
00:42:35.449 --> 00:42:37.590
way closer than we've been told. So maybe that's true.
828
00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:42.849
So I've heard a bunch of things with the eclipses. One,
829
00:42:42.869 --> 00:42:45.250
I saw this the other day. The idea is that
830
00:42:45.309 --> 00:42:50.070
what we call an eclipse is just interpreting that one
831
00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:52.429
body is moving in front of the other, when in reality,
832
00:42:52.469 --> 00:42:55.369
it's actually that the moon is being charged up and
833
00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:59.570
charged down as a self-luminous body. And it looks like
834
00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:01.989
an eclipse, but it's actually that it's lighting up and
835
00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:04.719
then charging or something like that, that the moon might
836
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:06.610
be something totally different than we believe it to be.
837
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:06.889
Okay.
838
00:43:07.389 --> 00:43:08.989
I've also heard, and I mentioned this in the book,
839
00:43:09.230 --> 00:43:13.239
in Vedic astrology, there are these gods called Rahu and Ketu,
840
00:43:13.699 --> 00:43:17.960
which some believe are basically bodies in the sky that
841
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.960
can block light. They can get in the way of light,
842
00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:23.019
so it looks like there's an eclipse. But it's actually
843
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.130
just these bodies that we haven't identified. And maybe that's
844
00:43:26.150 --> 00:43:29.150
an analog for the moon charging and discharging. I don't know.
845
00:43:29.809 --> 00:43:31.710
But the point is there might be stuff way outside
846
00:43:31.730 --> 00:43:34.949
of our knowledge that's explaining the eclipses beyond just the basics.
847
00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:38.110
Because what we're told is this very basic thing. Of, yeah,
848
00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:39.750
like the earth gets in the middle of it and yeah,
849
00:43:39.789 --> 00:43:41.469
the sun and the moon are this far away and
850
00:43:41.889 --> 00:43:43.829
different distances, but they look like they're the same size.
851
00:43:44.730 --> 00:43:45.449
There might be a lot more.
852
00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:48.429
Right on. Let's talk about some of the things that
853
00:43:48.690 --> 00:43:53.989
people can go out and observe for themselves. There's very
854
00:43:54.130 --> 00:43:58.360
relatively inexpensive cameras and pieces of equipment that people can
855
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.579
get to check out some of these things. Telescopes. What
856
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.360
would you recommend?
857
00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:03.980
Hmm.
858
00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:09.349
Well, the first thing is it has to do with
859
00:44:09.409 --> 00:44:13.389
curvature math that people are looking at often, where if
860
00:44:13.429 --> 00:44:16.969
we live on a sphere, technically Earth is supposed to
861
00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:20.210
be an oblate spheroid, meaning it's slightly bulging at the equator.
862
00:44:20.250 --> 00:44:22.710
So it's almost pear-shaped according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, but
863
00:44:22.730 --> 00:44:26.130
basically it's a sphere, it's a ball. Then that ball
864
00:44:26.170 --> 00:44:29.250
has a radius value, meaning from the core to the
865
00:44:30.030 --> 00:44:34.429
side at the equator is around 4,000 miles. And based
866
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.289
on that radius value, we can calculate what should be
867
00:44:38.429 --> 00:44:41.519
out of your view as an observer based on how
868
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.639
high you are. Because certain things should be blocked literally
869
00:44:45.699 --> 00:44:47.900
by the curvature of Earth. It would be like if
870
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.030
you're looking around a bend of something, you can't see
871
00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:54.130
around the bend because it's blocked by matter. So certain
872
00:44:54.150 --> 00:44:56.670
things should be blocked by stuff that you can't see.
873
00:44:57.230 --> 00:44:58.929
And I think what you're asking is, well, there are
874
00:44:58.989 --> 00:45:02.190
observations that you could test you could run. To say,
875
00:45:02.210 --> 00:45:03.969
all right, I'm running the math of the curvature of
876
00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:06.239
what I shouldn't be able to see. Can I see it?
877
00:45:06.590 --> 00:45:08.570
And you have to adjust for your altitude and for
878
00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:11.289
the atmospheric conditions because sometimes it's harder to see when
879
00:45:11.309 --> 00:45:13.429
there's stuff in the atmosphere and so forth. But what
880
00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:15.780
seems to happen over and over again is people do
881
00:45:15.820 --> 00:45:19.380
this math, depending on where they are on Earth, and
882
00:45:19.420 --> 00:45:21.380
they are seeing things that should be blocked by a
883
00:45:21.460 --> 00:45:23.679
lot of curvature. And this is why there are so
884
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.079
many people who are questioning the globe narrative because they
885
00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:30.019
go out and they say, what? That should be miles
886
00:45:30.099 --> 00:45:32.679
below the curve, and it's not. What is happening right now?
887
00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:36.030
Or they say, people talk about the ship that goes
888
00:45:36.070 --> 00:45:38.429
out of view because it's going under the curve, going
889
00:45:38.469 --> 00:45:40.050
around the curve, and that's why the ship goes out
890
00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:43.210
of view. Even Aristotle mentioned this. But then you get
891
00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:46.880
a camera where you bring it back into view. You're
892
00:45:46.889 --> 00:45:50.420
basically changing the angular vision. There's physics behind this. But basically,
893
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.099
the boat didn't disappear. It just went out of what
894
00:45:53.139 --> 00:45:55.059
you can see from where you are. But it's not
895
00:45:55.099 --> 00:45:58.409
because it actually disappeared. below the curve. It just has
896
00:45:58.429 --> 00:45:59.659
to do with the way that we see in the
897
00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:02.800
physics of vision, in a sense. So people can run
898
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.360
these observations themselves. And that was compelling for me because
899
00:46:08.219 --> 00:46:11.260
if the spinning globe model were so secure, you'd think
900
00:46:11.300 --> 00:46:13.469
that all the agencies would be going out doing these
901
00:46:13.590 --> 00:46:15.730
observations and say, look, you can't see this. This is
902
00:46:15.750 --> 00:46:17.849
blocked by curvature. This is blocked by curvature over and
903
00:46:17.889 --> 00:46:20.389
over again. But the reverse seems to be true.
904
00:46:21.409 --> 00:46:27.030
Let's get into the speculation waters of And discuss possibilities
905
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.039
of what we are witnessing, what we are looking at
906
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.519
when we see the stars and the sun, and possibly
907
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:35.059
what we may even be on.
908
00:46:37.889 --> 00:46:39.349
I would say this is an area that I am
909
00:46:39.570 --> 00:46:44.909
way less equipped to have theories about. And I think
910
00:46:44.949 --> 00:46:46.550
part of it is because we just know so little
911
00:46:46.590 --> 00:46:49.030
about what's up there. We're told these stars are light
912
00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:52.119
years away. But what if they're just way closer? What
913
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.679
if all the stuff we see in the sky is
914
00:46:53.820 --> 00:46:56.940
so much closer than we've been told? And the cosmology
915
00:46:56.980 --> 00:46:59.860
that we've been taught is just based on inference after
916
00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:03.159
inference where they have to presuppose that everything's so far away.
917
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.980
So I tend to think, just a hypothesis, that this
918
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.579
stuff's way closer, including the stars. And I've heard people
919
00:47:08.619 --> 00:47:13.099
say that maybe these bodies, these stars, are like conscious entities.
920
00:47:14.219 --> 00:47:16.219
They actually are influencing our planet. Then you start to
921
00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:18.469
get to things like astrology. That's really interesting to me
922
00:47:18.489 --> 00:47:21.199
because I think I've, come across a lot of intriguing
923
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:28.739
findings within astrology. I've also heard things about the wandering stars.
924
00:47:29.139 --> 00:47:35.289
So these are planets. And that's important. So planet, many
925
00:47:35.329 --> 00:47:37.949
people think that Earth is a planet, meaning it's one
926
00:47:38.030 --> 00:47:40.949
of them, because there's this heliocentric model where the sun's
927
00:47:40.989 --> 00:47:43.269
at the center, and there's Earth and Mercury and Venus,
928
00:47:43.289 --> 00:47:45.639
and they're in this various order. And Earth is one
929
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.889
of the planets. But planet means wandering star. And what
930
00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:52.750
if Earth is not a planet, but actually its own body?
931
00:47:53.170 --> 00:47:55.769
Some would say Earth is a plane, not a planet.
932
00:47:55.809 --> 00:47:58.469
So a plane plus the T gives you the planets.
933
00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:02.340
And the planets, these wandering stars, are lights in the
934
00:48:02.380 --> 00:48:04.840
sky that do exist, and they have these different motions
935
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.239
relative to the stars around them. And similarly, like I
936
00:48:08.260 --> 00:48:11.010
was talking about with astrology, maybe these are bodies that
937
00:48:11.050 --> 00:48:14.710
are somehow influencing what's going on here on Earth, on
938
00:48:14.730 --> 00:48:16.989
the plane of Earth. And I also, in my book,
939
00:48:17.030 --> 00:48:20.230
I quote Emanuel Swedenborg, who was around a few hundred
940
00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:22.389
years ago as a mystic. And he wrote a book
941
00:48:22.429 --> 00:48:25.030
called Other Planets, where he spoke about his consciousness being
942
00:48:25.070 --> 00:48:29.130
taken by angels to these planets, but his body stayed here.
943
00:48:29.210 --> 00:48:30.829
So what if some of the lights in the sky,
944
00:48:30.849 --> 00:48:33.159
or who knows, maybe all of them, they're other dimensions
945
00:48:33.219 --> 00:48:35.699
or realms of existence that just appear to us as lights,
946
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but there's a lot of stuff happening on them? I
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don't know the answer. And until we can actually start
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making direct observations, I think it's going to be really
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hard to know.
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There's been other... sort of fun theories that have emerged
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from the flat earth realms and people making observations and
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questioning reality. And that's the possibility that there are extra
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lands beyond what we have access to. And there may
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be some sort of ice wall surrounding Antarctica, things like this.
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Have you looked into any of these alternative theories?
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Yeah, it's a great thing to mention because it comes
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up very often. And I want to preface this by saying,
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I don't think it's currently possible to know the answer
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because we don't have the ability to observe all the
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things that we would need to observe. Number one, we'd
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want to have the ability to independently verify things from
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above us to see what's below. And we can't do that.
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I mean, there's SpaceX, there's NASA and And we can't
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fully trust what we're seeing from them. There are many
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anomalies that I talk about in the book. There's the
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ISS where they're supposed to be floating and they've got
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a hammer floating in one hand and the guy, the
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astronaut drops a playing card straight down and he says
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it's a pocket of gravity while they're moving thousands of
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miles an hour. How would you know the pocket of
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gravity is right there? How is something falling when something's floating?
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My point is there's a lot we don't know about
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Earth based on what's above because we can't explore that
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and we have just these agencies telling us little snippets.
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We also don't know enough about what's below us. Because
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if Earth were a sphere, we'd want to be able
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to prove that by digging all the way down. And
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the problem is we've only been able to dig down
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under eight miles, and the radius of Earth is supposed
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to be 4,000 miles. So our models of whatever our
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geologists are telling us, clearly they're not, they're models. And
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so we don't know what's below us. And we also
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don't know what's within Earth, because there are restrictions in
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terms of where normal citizens can travel. There are restrictions
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regarding the North Pole, and there are also restrictions regarding Antarctica.
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There's an Antarctic Treaty of 1959, which restricts free and
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private access below the 60th South Latitude. So some members
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of your audience might say, well, look, I know someone
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who went to Antarctica, but going to one part of
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00:50:48.369 --> 00:50:50.710
Antarctica would be like saying, I went to one part
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of San Francisco, and therefore I know about all of
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North America. We need free and private access to all
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of Antarctica to know what's there. But with those caveats
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in mind, the alternative to the spinning globe that many
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people are purporting is the idea that Earth is a plane,
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meaning it's a topographical plane. So it's flat, but not
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really flat because there are mountains and valleys. And it
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might extend out well beyond where we know because we
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haven't been able to explore everything. And at the center
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of this plane of Earth is the North Pole, magnetic north,
1001
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meaning anywhere you go directly away from it is south.
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And due east or west takes you in a circle
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around it. So that's circumnavigation on this flat plane. The
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00:51:36.579 --> 00:51:38.820
problem is, and okay, the next part of it is
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that Antarctica on the plane model is not a continent
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floating in the ocean. Instead, it's a circle around the
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lake of Earth. So basically, if you took the sphere model,
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the globe model of Earth, put all of that inside
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a circle, and then put an ice wall around it,
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that's what Earth is under the flat framework. Some also
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00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.739
go a step further and say, if you went outside
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of Antarctica, which they believe is this ice wall, if
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you went beyond it, there are many, many other lands.
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So what you're calling extraterrestrial beings, these are beings that
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do exist, but they come from the extra territories well beyond.
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So Earth is just this one little circle on a
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plane that's got a lot of other land. And there
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are some anecdotes, and I quote in my book some
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books of people who claim they have been past the
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Antarctic ice wall, and they've seen things in other civilizations before.
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I'm not going to speculate because we need to have
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some direct observations of that. But it's an interesting thing
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00:52:34.269 --> 00:52:36.409
to consider because it's very suspicious to me that we're
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00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:38.849
not allowed to travel to these places. And it was
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1959 and you had the US and the Soviet Union
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00:52:41.489 --> 00:52:43.150
that were supposed to be enemies in the Cold War
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00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:45.769
agreeing to this. And they also agreed to a space treaty.
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00:52:46.190 --> 00:52:48.690
What's going on? Why would countries around the world agree
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00:52:48.730 --> 00:52:51.869
to an Antarctic treaty to restrict access? Often they talk
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about environmental concerns. And that's one of the reasons it's
1031
00:52:54.949 --> 00:52:57.579
really hard to travel around there is you have these
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00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.639
restrictions with. We need to protect the environment and so forth.
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But I think it's suspicious. And it's important to have
1034
00:53:03.940 --> 00:53:06.440
these conversations. Because to me, if the truth is as
1035
00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:09.289
it is, then why not just show it to everyone?
1036
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Why have these restrictions?
1037
00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:14.989
Earlier, you mentioned some of the problems with gravity science.
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And I was speaking with a few people recently that
1039
00:53:19.050 --> 00:53:23.389
were presenting theories about the possibility of flat Earth and
1040
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.780
they were mentioning gravity. They also mentioned the North pole,
1041
00:53:28.860 --> 00:53:32.619
how some believe that there may be some magnetic force
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00:53:33.409 --> 00:53:37.550
underneath or near the North pole that is dictating what
1043
00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:39.150
we understand is gravity.
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00:53:40.769 --> 00:53:40.989
Yeah.
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So under the flat earth framework, the North pole is
1046
00:53:45.929 --> 00:53:48.239
at the center and that's the magnetic North. So that,
1047
00:53:48.460 --> 00:53:52.199
that would indicate there's something that's pulling there. What that is.
1048
00:53:52.219 --> 00:53:53.559
I know there are a lot of different theories on it. Um,
1049
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.760
But gravity, generally speaking, so when we say gravity, most
1050
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:01.679
of us are taught to think it means that mass
1051
00:54:01.739 --> 00:54:04.409
is attracting mass, that the apple's falling to the ground
1052
00:54:04.449 --> 00:54:07.110
because the mass of Earth is so big. And Einstein said, well,
1053
00:54:07.369 --> 00:54:09.349
the mass of Earth is bending spacetime, so the apple
1054
00:54:09.369 --> 00:54:12.090
falls that way. But as discussed, that whole house of
1055
00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:14.590
cards seems to fall apart because it requires dark matter
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00:54:14.630 --> 00:54:18.010
to exist, and that's now been falsified. And the falsification,
1057
00:54:18.050 --> 00:54:20.329
by the way, from Pavel Krupa and his colleagues, he
1058
00:54:20.389 --> 00:54:25.469
says it's above five sigma statistical results, meaning it's 99.99999%
1059
00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:30.289
sure that they falsified it. The question then becomes, how
1060
00:54:30.309 --> 00:54:32.789
do we explain this motion? Because we know things are falling,
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00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:35.610
and we know there are forces out there. And what
1062
00:54:35.650 --> 00:54:38.070
many people speculate, and even including Stephen A. Young, the
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00:54:38.090 --> 00:54:42.099
theoretical physicist I mentioned, who wrote A Fool's Wisdom, that
1064
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.940
we can explain the reason that objects fall is because
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00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:51.840
of density, buoyancy, and electrostatic forces. So density is an
1066
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.739
object that's, the apple's denser than the air around it,
1067
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:58.219
therefore it falls down. Helium gas is less dense than
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00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:01.719
the air around it, and therefore it rises. And then
1069
00:55:01.739 --> 00:55:05.130
the question becomes, why is there a downward bias for
1070
00:55:05.170 --> 00:55:07.210
things that are denser? Like, why wouldn't it go sideways?
1071
00:55:07.610 --> 00:55:09.710
Why does it have to go down? And what people
1072
00:55:09.730 --> 00:55:12.449
are often referencing is a downward electric current that's just
1073
00:55:12.510 --> 00:55:15.150
inherent to Earth that has been measured by people like
1074
00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:17.860
Richard Feynman, a famous Caltech physicist who I quote in
1075
00:55:17.900 --> 00:55:19.889
my book. from one of his lectures decades ago, he
1076
00:55:19.929 --> 00:55:22.349
talks about this downward electric current. And we do know
1077
00:55:22.409 --> 00:55:24.949
from many scientific studies, and I cite this in the book,
1078
00:55:25.429 --> 00:55:31.469
of thunderstorms changing the rate at which objects fall. And
1079
00:55:31.489 --> 00:55:34.090
I mentioned the Hutchinson effect earlier, where there's an ability
1080
00:55:34.150 --> 00:55:37.849
to levitate large objects using something around electricity. So the
1081
00:55:37.889 --> 00:55:40.150
point is that there could be electricity, there can be magnetism,
1082
00:55:40.389 --> 00:55:42.949
forces that we do understand to some degree that are
1083
00:55:43.380 --> 00:55:48.079
can explain various forms of motion without invoking gravity. Because
1084
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.860
gravity has a specific connotation and really a definition that
1085
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.110
it's mass attracting mass. It's why it falls. Again, we're
1086
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.630
not questioning whether the apple falls. It's what's the mechanism.
1087
00:55:58.050 --> 00:56:00.349
Why is it falling? That's what we're questioning. And what
1088
00:56:00.489 --> 00:56:02.469
I guess many people are saying is there are forces
1089
00:56:02.510 --> 00:56:04.769
that we know about that we have demonstrated very clearly.
1090
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.460
could explain these things too.
1091
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:11.559
I am very interested to see how our future unfolds
1092
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.469
as it relates to our science and understanding of astronomy
1093
00:56:16.510 --> 00:56:20.989
in the cosmos because more and more independent researchers like
1094
00:56:21.030 --> 00:56:25.969
yourself are making these observations that there's some fundamental problems
1095
00:56:26.030 --> 00:56:29.019
with our current science and things are inconsistent and they
1096
00:56:29.059 --> 00:56:33.750
don't make sense And as our technology develops and we
1097
00:56:33.829 --> 00:56:40.239
have access to better technology to make these observations ourselves,
1098
00:56:40.300 --> 00:56:44.739
I don't see how this deception can perpetuate itself in
1099
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:45.860
the future. What do you think?
1100
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.820
I would agree with you, except that I found people
1101
00:56:50.860 --> 00:56:54.699
are extremely stubborn. And this one is particularly hard to believe.
1102
00:56:56.179 --> 00:56:58.579
It doesn't matter what you show someone. They'll say, no,
1103
00:56:58.619 --> 00:57:01.090
there can't be that all these physicists are wrong. From
1104
00:57:01.139 --> 00:57:03.829
so many different angles, I don't believe it. So I
1105
00:57:03.869 --> 00:57:07.349
do think, like with everything, it's going to be grassroots.
1106
00:57:08.630 --> 00:57:10.510
Individuals are going to have to do their own critical
1107
00:57:10.550 --> 00:57:13.550
thinking and put the pieces together and come to their
1108
00:57:13.570 --> 00:57:15.199
own beliefs. And I think that's what's happening. We're seeing
1109
00:57:15.219 --> 00:57:18.179
it with independent media, shows like yours, where the questions
1110
00:57:18.219 --> 00:57:20.260
are being asked and more and more people are being drawn.
1111
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.579
The audience sizes are growing across the board for these
1112
00:57:22.619 --> 00:57:27.019
independent media platforms. Because we're seeing, whether it's politics or otherwise,
1113
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.929
in science, The narratives we're told are repeatedly shown to
1114
00:57:30.969 --> 00:57:33.670
be false, demonstrably. So then it's like, well, you're putting
1115
00:57:33.710 --> 00:57:35.630
forth a narrative. Why should I believe it if you
1116
00:57:35.650 --> 00:57:37.710
were wrong all these other times and you're doing it
1117
00:57:37.730 --> 00:57:40.000
with such conviction? How can I believe you? At a
1118
00:57:40.019 --> 00:57:42.659
certain point, people are waking up to it. And I
1119
00:57:42.699 --> 00:57:45.760
do think technologies probably will help, but it's going to
1120
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.139
be up to the people to decide. Do their own
1121
00:57:48.179 --> 00:57:48.800
critical thinking.
1122
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.340
Well, Mark, this was fantastic. We'll definitely have to do
1123
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.139
it again in the future. So much more we could
1124
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.119
get into. Before you go, let the audience know how
1125
00:57:57.139 --> 00:57:58.960
they can pick up the book and find out more
1126
00:57:59.000 --> 00:57:59.400
about you.
1127
00:58:01.260 --> 00:58:02.619
First, I want to thank you so much for having
1128
00:58:02.659 --> 00:58:05.500
me on the show and for having this show to
1129
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.079
have a platform for so many important ideas.
1130
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:08.619
Thank you.
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00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.619
All my books are available on Amazon. They're in hard copy, Kindle,
1132
00:58:13.659 --> 00:58:16.519
and Audible formats. The newest one that we talked about today,
1133
00:58:17.110 --> 00:58:20.449
is an end to the upside down cosmos. Subtitle is
1134
00:58:20.510 --> 00:58:24.489
Rethinking the Big Bang, Heliocentrism, the Lights in the Sky,
1135
00:58:25.010 --> 00:58:27.409
and Where We Live. And I also have a podcast
1136
00:58:27.429 --> 00:58:30.619
series from 2019. It's only eight episodes. It hasn't been continued,
1137
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.500
but I still get comments about it because it's relevant.
1138
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:34.980
It has to do with the nature of consciousness and
1139
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:38.659
the afterlife, reincarnation, and so forth, psychic abilities. I interviewed
1140
00:58:38.699 --> 00:58:43.650
many scientists, including a Nobel Prize winner in physics, Brian Josephson.
1141
00:58:43.670 --> 00:58:45.840
So very credible people I interviewed on the show. And
1142
00:58:45.860 --> 00:58:47.699
there's a lot of evidence that our consciousness is not
1143
00:58:47.739 --> 00:58:49.400
coming from our brain and that we all have psychic
1144
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.440
abilities and that life continues even after we die as
1145
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.079
a physical body. So that's called Where Is My Mind?
1146
00:58:55.139 --> 00:58:58.480
It's on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all the major players. Excellent.
1147
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.449
Mark, thank you so much. Like I said, we'll be
1148
00:59:00.489 --> 00:59:03.510
doing this again. And until next time, everyone, have an
1149
00:59:03.610 --> 00:59:07.210
excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow. Today, I want to
1150
00:59:07.250 --> 00:59:11.619
welcome Reese Singubi. He's also known as the saintly scientist.
1151
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.860
He's a speaker, author, and content creator, bridging the gap
1152
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.579
between science and spirituality. Reese, welcome.
1153
00:59:19.619 --> 00:59:22.519
How you doing? I'm really good, Chris. Thank you for
1154
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:23.380
having me. How are you?
1155
00:59:24.179 --> 00:59:26.820
I am excellent. Thank you so much for coming on.
1156
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.360
Today we're going to get into your research and work
1157
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.789
regarding the nature of this existence, the origins of the universe,
1158
00:59:34.849 --> 00:59:38.110
what is consciousness, what is God. These are some of
1159
00:59:38.150 --> 00:59:41.329
the biggest questions ever asked, and I can't wait to
1160
00:59:41.369 --> 00:59:45.639
get into this. These are all connected to everything that
1161
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.519
I've been questioning my whole life. So it's a big one,
1162
00:59:49.579 --> 00:59:51.780
but before we get into this, this is your first
1163
00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:54.969
time on. Tell the audience a little bit about yourself
1164
00:59:55.130 --> 00:59:56.949
and let them know where they can find out more
1165
00:59:56.989 --> 00:59:57.389
about you.
1166
00:59:59.670 --> 01:00:02.170
Yeah, sure. So my name is Reece Singh Ubi. I'm
1167
01:00:02.190 --> 01:00:04.139
just like a normal person. I know this is like
1168
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:06.059
big topics to a lot of people, but it's just
1169
01:00:06.099 --> 01:00:09.739
like conversation in like my world. So I'm a father.
1170
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.230
I have three kids. I've got a lovely, beautiful wife.
1171
01:00:12.690 --> 01:00:16.590
I'm no different than what you are, essentially. And where
1172
01:00:16.610 --> 01:00:20.909
you can find me, Saintly Scientist, Buddha the Poet, Buddha MC,
1173
01:00:20.949 --> 01:00:23.570
these are all myself. So just find me on YouTube.
1174
01:00:24.610 --> 01:00:26.929
And everything that I do is on there. Yeah, one place.
1175
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.960
Tell us a little bit about your journey. What brought
1176
01:00:31.019 --> 01:00:33.900
you to look into these big subjects?
1177
01:00:36.110 --> 01:00:41.179
Yeah, sure. So I have a background in philosophy, religious education.
1178
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:45.139
This is what my degree was. I taught in high
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school for nine years, religious studies, philosophy, ethics. So I
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have that background academically in terms of the science that
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is all like, really recent if I'm being honest. So
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I got like C's in school in science, which is
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really interesting because now I'm publishing science books. But this
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is all just a personal journey of enjoying learning and
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finding out why reality is the way it is. In
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the way that I now live my life, this is
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more recent. Last three to four years, I went through
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quite personal crises. And as part of going through that,
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I decided to look deeper into life and why I
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was going through the circumstances that I had the fortune,
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not unfortunate, but the fortune of going through. And I
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learned so much about myself, about my life, looking at
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things in a And understanding within myself from connecting dots
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and events that happened in my life that I previously
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looked at with like a distaste in my mouth. And
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these things I'm now grateful for, you know. Excellent.
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Well, thank you for that introduction. Tell us a little
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bit more about how you integrate science with spirituality. In
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your bio, it says that you have an emphasis on
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quantum physics today. And I understand this is something that
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is helping a lot of people in academia bridge that
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gap and come to a better understanding of the mechanics
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of reality, consciousness, how the universe works. But tell us
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a little bit about your work and where you're at
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with it now.
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Yeah, sure.
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So it started with looking at, I don't know if
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you know, the deity Shiva in Sanatana Dharma. And I
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was looking at the little few videos on YouTube. I'm
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looking at his dance, which is like universal destruction. I'm
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01:02:46.139 --> 01:02:48.699
looking at a beam that comes out of his third
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eye and, you know, destroys galaxies and things. And then
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I was watching other videos related to black holes and
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gamma rays. And then I just linked the two. And
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I thought, you know what? If you take away the
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religiousness of religion, There will be mythologies, which are like
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created narratives, which, in my opinion, are supposed to contain truths.
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but are not supposed to be entirely literal. However, there
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could be an aspect, and it could even be a
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significant aspect of literalness to it. But in any narrative,
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you are going to say it in a way that
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people reading it or listen to it will actually understand.
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So in any religion, if you think that there is
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a prophet who is giving you like God's truth, it
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has to be verbalized in a way that people were
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able to understand it with their frame of reference and
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context at that time. So there has to be a
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descriptiveness for the non-prophet, the so to speak layman human
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to understand what the prophet is saying. So I started
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to look at a variety of religions and then I
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stripped the mythology away for them and I realized of
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01:04:00.250 --> 01:04:04.110
how similar they actually are like genuinely and people think
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01:04:04.150 --> 01:04:06.980
there's lots of different religions in the world They're not.
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01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:12.130
They all look at the same God. So in terms
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of the quantumness. So this was like a personal passion
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of mine. And I really, really like physics and reading
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01:04:21.739 --> 01:04:26.719
journals and articles and studies and very, very, very. deeply
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01:04:26.980 --> 01:04:29.630
wordy things. I often have to Google what the meaning
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01:04:29.650 --> 01:04:32.309
of these words even are in the first place. So
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I'm teaching myself as I am learning. And I just
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01:04:35.969 --> 01:04:37.840
looked at the world and if this is what the
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reality of the world really is, and this is what
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01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.139
science is saying, Then it kind of explains itself, if
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01:04:44.219 --> 01:04:48.420
I'm being honest. If you take away how, you know,
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01:04:48.460 --> 01:04:51.679
the language is the barrier. I do find that the
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01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.510
language of quantum physics is the barrier which stops people
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from accessing it. But if you are able to simply
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01:04:57.670 --> 01:05:01.630
explain quantum physics, then it just becomes like natural to
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01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:04.889
look around and think about, you know, life in terms
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01:05:04.949 --> 01:05:08.780
of particles, energies. And then you can see how things
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01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.460
interact in a... quite a literal easy to understand way
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01:05:13.500 --> 01:05:16.679
if i'm being honest i don't really find quantum physics.
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01:05:16.420 --> 01:05:20.039
Difficult anymore maybe you could help us understand a little
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01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:24.599
bit about it i know myself i have zero understanding
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01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:30.519
of quantum physics in these deeper scientific understandings but If
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01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.099
you had to break it down to someone like myself
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01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:37.489
or the average person, how would you describe what quantum
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01:05:37.550 --> 01:05:41.329
physics is and how it allows us to understand the
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mechanics of the universe?
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Yeah, wonderful. So the first thing you have to do,
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everything that you can see with your eyes, just discount it.
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It's an illusion. It's not real, and it's here to
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01:05:50.730 --> 01:05:53.349
distract you. That is the number one thing, right? Whatever
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01:05:53.389 --> 01:05:56.230
you see, forget it. You don't see quantum physics. You
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01:05:56.269 --> 01:06:00.170
have to think it. Because what quantum physics is... is
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01:06:00.210 --> 01:06:04.570
not relatable through visual experience. You're going to have a
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01:06:04.650 --> 01:06:07.639
big barrier that cannot be crossed there. So if we
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01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.539
just take anything in existence, right? It's made of matter.
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Everything is made of the same thing, which is strings.
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This is what quantum physics says, and we can get
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that later. But if you take the basic idea that
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everything is made of the same thing, there is only
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one substance in the universe that makes up everything. But
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then you look around with your eyes, you've got trees outside.
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I've got a purple candle over here. I've got a
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01:06:28.690 --> 01:06:31.519
shelf over there. How can these all be from the
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01:06:31.579 --> 01:06:36.179
same materials? You have inorganic material, rocks, stones. You have
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organic material, flesh, cells. Where does this come from? But
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when you learn about particles and the nature of particles,
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01:06:45.989 --> 01:06:51.630
then reality starts to unravel itself through an understanding which
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01:06:51.670 --> 01:06:54.329
you have to keep in your head, in your mind
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and not through your senses. Because when you keep the
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physics of reality in your mind, then you can't be
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01:07:02.510 --> 01:07:05.909
fooled by the illusion. I won't see a chicken and
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see it differently to a cow. to a rock, to
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a stone, to a leaf, to a pebble, to even
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an ecosystem, because everything is the same thing.
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You mentioned string theory. Maybe you could explain some of
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these terms that are often associated with quantum physics. String theory,
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the observer theory, spooky action. They all seem to be
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very profoundly connected. But how? I couldn't tell you. Maybe
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you can help us out with that.
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Yeah, no problem. It's a journey, if you don't mind.
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So I have to stage things and layer on things.
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That's no problem. So I can't get first into your
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Zerber effects. I have to explain particles. And I'm just
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going to start with strings because it makes it really,
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really simple to start with the basic of string theory
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and then work our way upwards. So I'll definitely do that.
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And it's going to be a lot of fun.
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So.
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Let's look at what a human being is, right? You
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01:08:05.699 --> 01:08:09.059
got hair, you got skin, you got flesh, you have organs,
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you have cells. None of these things are what you
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01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:19.140
think they are. So atoms create everything. Atoms combine to
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01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:23.470
create molecules. Molecules then combine to build upwards is what
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01:08:23.550 --> 01:08:27.409
cells and organisms and our internal organs and structures are
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made of. So if we just look at what an
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01:08:29.310 --> 01:08:34.779
atom is first, an atom is is like just non-existent
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in the vast reality of what we think solid structure
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01:08:38.930 --> 01:08:42.130
is solid structure you can hit it you think it's
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01:08:42.310 --> 01:08:44.850
solid you know diamonds are supposed to be really really
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01:08:44.930 --> 01:08:48.350
rough and hard they're made of atoms an atom is 99.9999
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01:08:48.350 --> 01:08:53.649
there's lots of nines that follow right point percent empty
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01:08:53.689 --> 01:08:58.409
space and it's quantum field interaction of energies and waves
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01:08:58.789 --> 01:09:02.649
so this is difficult to process if you do not
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01:09:02.689 --> 01:09:05.270
have a prior understanding of the things that i am
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01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:08.720
saying so an easy way to view an atom is
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to take an atom and size it up to a
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01:09:11.380 --> 01:09:14.789
grain of sand yep So an atom is now a
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01:09:14.810 --> 01:09:17.289
grain of sand. That is what an atom is. You
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01:09:17.310 --> 01:09:19.810
take the grain of sand and you put it in
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01:09:20.050 --> 01:09:24.140
any football stadium, soccer stadium, you know, whatever you want
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01:09:24.189 --> 01:09:26.340
to call it. But you take that grain of sand
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01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:28.539
and then you put it on the halfway line.
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Yep.
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So now you have an atom. An atom is.
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Created from different subatomic particles. You have the nucleus, which
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01:09:40.229 --> 01:09:42.390
is like two things put together. I'm trying to keep
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01:09:42.449 --> 01:09:45.109
it basic. And this is like your circle in the middle.
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01:09:45.449 --> 01:09:48.430
Then you have electrons, which are flying in an electron cloud.
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01:09:49.050 --> 01:09:52.949
And the electron cloud is around the nucleus. So if
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01:09:52.989 --> 01:09:57.229
we take this grain of an atom, right, the sand atom,
1334
01:09:57.350 --> 01:09:59.520
and now we make it a little bit bigger. So
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01:09:59.579 --> 01:10:03.680
now the nucleus inside the atom is now the size
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01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.880
of the sand particles. You've got a little speck of
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01:10:06.899 --> 01:10:10.439
dust now on the halfway line of whichever soccer stadium,
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01:10:10.470 --> 01:10:14.390
whichever American football stadium, rugby stadium, whatever you like to
1339
01:10:14.430 --> 01:10:17.270
play baseball. You've got a little speck of sand, which
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01:10:17.329 --> 01:10:22.340
is now the nucleus, right? The electron cloud is flying
1341
01:10:22.939 --> 01:10:27.319
outside of the stadium in whatever stadium you are right
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01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.720
in the world. It's just so far apart. It's in
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01:10:30.739 --> 01:10:34.119
the car park. It's where the trailers are for the
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01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.460
people who are enjoying themselves outside. Like there is no
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01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:42.600
solid connection between electrons and the nucleus. There is just
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01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:47.939
empty space, which is known as the quantum field. You
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01:10:47.979 --> 01:10:53.029
wouldn't be able to then have an observation of where
1348
01:10:53.189 --> 01:10:58.729
the electrons are currently because I haven't explained the observer effect,
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01:10:58.770 --> 01:11:00.810
but I'm going to put that to the side, right?
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01:11:01.130 --> 01:11:05.350
Because until you observe the electrons, they're an energy wave.
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01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:07.739
So they're not like particles in the way that we
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01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:09.479
think they are. But like I said, I'm shelving that
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01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:11.000
to the side and I'm just going to focus on
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01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.460
what reality is made of. So now you have the
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01:11:14.579 --> 01:11:19.710
idea that an atom is really, really small. But inside that,
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the two things, the nucleus and the electron cloud, they
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01:11:22.710 --> 01:11:26.649
are vastly far apart from each other. So it is
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01:11:26.729 --> 01:11:35.050
basically 99.9999999% empty space. It's just a... it's technically wrong
1359
01:11:35.069 --> 01:11:37.100
to say that it's empty because it's not empty because
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energy passes through that space. It's what we call the
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01:11:39.939 --> 01:11:42.779
quantum field. And in the quantum field, the quantum field
1362
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:47.060
is absolutely everything. So if someone says it's empty, it's
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01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:50.670
technically not empty because energies pass through that space, but
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those energies do not belong to that atom. energy from
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01:11:54.510 --> 01:11:58.289
other aspects of reality they interact and pass through each
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01:11:58.350 --> 01:12:00.729
other in the quantum field right it's like imagine a
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01:12:00.789 --> 01:12:04.479
wi-fi signal wi-fi signals can interact with each other when
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01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.739
they get in you know the space that they can
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01:12:06.779 --> 01:12:12.840
reach so with inside electrons protons neutrons all these subatomic
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particles they are still not solid there are more subatomic
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01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:20.329
particles inside them it's like you know like a russian
1372
01:12:20.390 --> 01:12:24.609
nesting doll It just keeps going, right? It just keeps going.
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01:12:24.989 --> 01:12:28.529
So you get to something called a quark, which is
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01:12:28.789 --> 01:12:33.960
one of the first particles that solidified after the Big
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01:12:34.020 --> 01:12:40.090
Bang's creation. It is infinitesimally small. A quark is like
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01:12:40.090 --> 01:12:42.869
10 to the power of minus 33 of a centimeter.
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01:12:42.909 --> 01:12:45.310
So it's so small. It is a millionth of a
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01:12:45.350 --> 01:12:48.229
billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a centimeter,
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01:12:48.529 --> 01:12:51.640
which is just tiny, right? It's very, very small.
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01:12:51.739 --> 01:12:55.880
Is that the smallest or can it keep going infinitely smaller?
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01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.420
Yeah, so after that, size doesn't make sense. So if
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01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:07.710
you let me explain, with Einstein's general relativity, a solid structure,
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01:13:07.770 --> 01:13:12.550
3D basically, that vanishes after, it's called a Planck, a
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01:13:12.609 --> 01:13:15.399
Planck's unit, which is 10 to the power of minus 33.
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01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:18.659
So when you get smaller than that, there are structures,
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01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.039
but they are not material in the way we consider
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01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:26.630
material structures. physical 3d objects to be so a string
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for example is with inside a quark a string is
1389
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:35.000
what string theory says is the only actual thing inside
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01:13:35.140 --> 01:13:40.579
everything a string is a is a one-dimensional energy vortex
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01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:45.159
it creates a frequency which is essentially like you know
1392
01:13:45.180 --> 01:13:49.439
like rhythm right if this was a sound wave it's
1393
01:13:49.460 --> 01:13:52.750
like woo woo woo it's like that right so just
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01:13:52.850 --> 01:13:56.390
wobbling it's just like a a wiggly jiggly thing and
1395
01:13:56.430 --> 01:14:00.310
depending on which direction it wiggly jiggles a different echo
1396
01:14:00.710 --> 01:14:03.689
is then created and i'm using terms which sound silly
1397
01:14:03.710 --> 01:14:08.600
but these are actually very similar to the scientific wording
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01:14:08.739 --> 01:14:12.289
of it So a harmonic note is what we call
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01:14:12.329 --> 01:14:16.310
a frequency. If a string has a harmonic note of
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01:14:16.350 --> 01:14:20.550
a specific frequency, it becomes a photon, which is your
1401
01:14:20.590 --> 01:14:24.210
base particle of light. There's nothing inside a photon. A
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01:14:24.250 --> 01:14:27.829
photon is light, essentially. If a wiggly jiggly thing has
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01:14:27.890 --> 01:14:31.329
a harmonic note of another frequency, then it becomes a quark.
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01:14:31.390 --> 01:14:33.630
If a wiggly jiggly thing wiggles in a way that
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01:14:33.649 --> 01:14:37.029
it has a harmonic note of an electron over there,
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01:14:37.069 --> 01:14:39.630
then it's an electron. But the idea is there is
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01:14:40.109 --> 01:14:44.180
one thing in reality, which is one dimensional, right? So
1408
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.140
what that means is there is, if an ant could
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01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:50.909
crawl up and down, It can crawl up and down.
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01:14:50.989 --> 01:14:54.010
It can't crawl left to right. It can't crawl around
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01:14:54.069 --> 01:14:57.819
the structure. It's one dimensional. Like I cannot physically show
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01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:01.520
you something that is one dimensional because in our 3D
1413
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.729
reality with our eyes, you can't view it as one dimensional.
1414
01:15:05.619 --> 01:15:08.329
I say echo because echo is a great term for
1415
01:15:08.369 --> 01:15:12.689
people to understand. When the string has a frequency, a vibration,
1416
01:15:12.750 --> 01:15:15.329
imagine it to be like sound because the universe is
1417
01:15:15.409 --> 01:15:18.979
literally made of sound essentially. So when you have an
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01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.260
echo you have a really loud voice to start with,
1419
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:27.729
the original voice where someone shouts, Echo echo echo echo
1420
01:15:27.930 --> 01:15:31.949
echo echo then it diminishes So your loud voice is
1421
01:15:32.010 --> 01:15:35.350
the original vibration of the swing string. Sorry, it's the
1422
01:15:35.510 --> 01:15:39.460
original vibration of the string and And then the next
1423
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.520
step can be a quark. Then the next step after
1424
01:15:42.579 --> 01:15:44.859
that could be like a gluon. Then the next step
1425
01:15:44.939 --> 01:15:47.569
after that can just be any variety of subatomic particles.
1426
01:15:48.350 --> 01:15:52.909
The lower the vibration is, the more reduced the noise
1427
01:15:52.970 --> 01:15:55.970
and the echo is, for the analogy's sake. The different
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01:15:56.010 --> 01:15:59.760
the particle then becomes. But they are all just a
1429
01:15:59.899 --> 01:16:05.279
representation of the original vibration of the string. And as
1430
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.420
it diminishes in frequency, it doesn't solidify, but the vibration
1431
01:16:11.539 --> 01:16:15.029
of it moves so slow that you think it is solid.
1432
01:16:15.430 --> 01:16:19.609
There is nothing which is still in the universe. There
1433
01:16:19.670 --> 01:16:23.569
is nothing which is still. Everything is constantly in motion
1434
01:16:23.989 --> 01:16:27.050
because everything is a result of a string which is
1435
01:16:27.409 --> 01:16:30.949
vibrating in nature. And even if you think about particles,
1436
01:16:31.050 --> 01:16:35.069
particles are always moving, so there is nothing that is still,
1437
01:16:35.090 --> 01:16:37.029
that just does not exist in reality.
1438
01:16:38.060 --> 01:16:41.579
Before we get to something like the creation of the universe,
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01:16:41.619 --> 01:16:43.960
is there anything else we should know about before we
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01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.479
get into those levels?
1441
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.399
Certainly. So you'd mentioned the observer effect, and now I
1442
01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.319
can talk about the observer effect, because we have the
1443
01:16:53.420 --> 01:16:58.289
idea of what a string is. So essentially, with every
1444
01:16:58.350 --> 01:17:01.340
single time this experiment has been run it has the
1445
01:17:01.380 --> 01:17:04.680
exact same result no matter what particle is used and
1446
01:17:04.739 --> 01:17:07.340
no matter how the experiment has been run it has
1447
01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:11.439
been run it's called the double slit experiment and if
1448
01:17:11.460 --> 01:17:13.359
you want to youtube it and watch it it's very
1449
01:17:13.430 --> 01:17:16.810
very easy to do and you can see visual representations
1450
01:17:17.109 --> 01:17:19.289
so i'll just give you like the cliff notes of
1451
01:17:19.350 --> 01:17:25.050
it Basically, when you have a particle, you don't actually
1452
01:17:25.109 --> 01:17:28.689
have a particle. You have something that could be a particle,
1453
01:17:29.090 --> 01:17:33.600
but equally, it could be an energy wave. Imagine a
1454
01:17:33.649 --> 01:17:37.310
particle like a ball. Yep, it bounces, you throw it,
1455
01:17:37.340 --> 01:17:38.920
it will go in the direction that you throw it.
1456
01:17:39.340 --> 01:17:42.619
Imagine an energy wave to be like a ribbon. It
1457
01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:45.979
will like flutter and like, you know, move in different ways.
1458
01:17:46.420 --> 01:17:51.430
If you drop a pebble into a pond, you will
1459
01:17:51.550 --> 01:17:56.140
see the energy waves spreading in the pond. Just imagine
1460
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:00.060
a wave to move like that. A particle is either
1461
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:06.460
a particle or a wave. These are interchangeable. However, there
1462
01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:12.550
has to be some form of information interaction which changes
1463
01:18:13.449 --> 01:18:16.489
the wave into a particle. And I can now explain
1464
01:18:16.529 --> 01:18:23.300
what this means. Energy in its resting state is always wave.
1465
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.949
It is always like the string, one dimensional, not material.
1466
01:18:27.510 --> 01:18:31.710
With the observer effect, essentially when you run the experiment
1467
01:18:31.789 --> 01:18:35.369
and there is no like micro camera to watch the experiment,
1468
01:18:35.909 --> 01:18:39.750
the energy will always be energy and act as a wave.
1469
01:18:40.899 --> 01:18:46.439
When you place a micro camera and observe the experiment,
1470
01:18:47.350 --> 01:18:51.430
The energy will always crystallize into a particle and then
1471
01:18:51.470 --> 01:18:54.550
will behave in the way of a particle and not
1472
01:18:54.770 --> 01:18:55.270
an energy.
1473
01:18:55.289 --> 01:18:56.250
Now let me ask you something.
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01:18:56.390 --> 01:18:56.970
Every single time.
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01:18:57.010 --> 01:18:58.989
When you say observe, does this have to be a
1476
01:18:59.310 --> 01:19:02.390
human observer looking through the lens or just have the
1477
01:19:02.430 --> 01:19:05.100
camera on and it will act differently?
1478
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:09.390
I'm really glad you asked that question because that is
1479
01:19:09.430 --> 01:19:12.229
a crux that a lot of people don't understand. When
1480
01:19:12.289 --> 01:19:16.310
you say observe, it's a scientific term which can be
1481
01:19:17.130 --> 01:19:24.760
interchanged with information interaction. Anytime information interacts, it doesn't have
1482
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:27.449
to be a human watching it. It could be a camera,
1483
01:19:27.489 --> 01:19:30.350
which is recording it or viewing it. It can be
1484
01:19:30.510 --> 01:19:34.590
another particle which bounces off a wall and then hits
1485
01:19:34.630 --> 01:19:39.520
that particle. And those two particles colliding have an information exchange. Essentially,
1486
01:19:39.579 --> 01:19:46.119
the word observe is anytime something happens, which is Stopping
1487
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.810
the thing from being in its resting original nature. There
1488
01:19:49.869 --> 01:19:54.710
is an interaction where information has been exchanged and that
1489
01:19:54.829 --> 01:19:59.770
changes things. So with the double sit experiment, the micro
1490
01:19:59.810 --> 01:20:05.550
camera then acts as the information exchange. interaction, rather than
1491
01:20:05.970 --> 01:20:09.489
the idea that it's consciousness, that it's someone physically watching it.
1492
01:20:09.770 --> 01:20:12.779
The word observe makes you think about someone watching you,
1493
01:20:13.140 --> 01:20:16.060
but it's not really watching. It's just the word that
1494
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:21.199
has been used. But information interaction is more accurate to
1495
01:20:21.260 --> 01:20:22.399
explain it in that phrase. Yeah, thank you for that.
1496
01:20:22.420 --> 01:20:26.119
I think there's a lot of misunderstanding surrounding that. Where
1497
01:20:26.140 --> 01:20:28.720
should we go next? Should we go into the creation
1498
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:30.619
of the universe, or is there anything else we need
1499
01:20:30.659 --> 01:20:30.899
to know?
1500
01:20:33.300 --> 01:20:35.880
Yeah, no, that's most of it. But we need to
1501
01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:39.779
go on to something called the Page-Rooters mechanism, which is extremely,
1502
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.140
extremely important. So the Page-Rooters mechanism, I use it to
1503
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:47.189
build on to the observer effect. So the observer effect
1504
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.430
is basically any time energy and energy and matter are interchangeable.
1505
01:20:51.470 --> 01:20:53.229
So I just want to use the word energy because,
1506
01:20:53.590 --> 01:20:55.930
you know, there's a lot of like spiritualness where people
1507
01:20:55.949 --> 01:20:59.029
talk about energy and then people from like an atheist
1508
01:20:59.050 --> 01:21:01.189
background think, oh, you're just talking nonsense, right? What is
1509
01:21:01.210 --> 01:21:04.510
this energy? Woo-woo. It's a physics term. Energy is a
1510
01:21:04.609 --> 01:21:07.489
real term for physics. That's not like a made up
1511
01:21:07.569 --> 01:21:11.479
word to say magic. Energy is real. Everything has energy
1512
01:21:11.539 --> 01:21:16.220
because everything vibrates. Therefore, everything creates an electrical charge. Everything
1513
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:20.029
has an electromagnetic field around it, which I can explain later.
1514
01:21:20.569 --> 01:21:24.609
like energy is a natural part of reality and it
1515
01:21:24.689 --> 01:21:28.170
is not something that should be looked upon or dismissed
1516
01:21:28.569 --> 01:21:31.560
as a word that now means you are now talking nonsense.
1517
01:21:31.619 --> 01:21:34.279
If you hear someone say the word energy and you think, oh,
1518
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.579
they're just talking nonsense, it's because you do not have
1519
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:42.300
the scientific information, you know, yet to understand the context
1520
01:21:42.340 --> 01:21:44.810
of the word energy because energy is a physics word.
1521
01:21:45.649 --> 01:21:53.170
So anytime energy is observed, It changes its nature. to
1522
01:21:53.310 --> 01:21:58.350
fit in with what general relativity says reality is like.
1523
01:21:58.750 --> 01:22:02.689
I like to think that general relativity explains the science
1524
01:22:02.850 --> 01:22:07.779
of the illusion and quantum physics explains the reality of reality.
1525
01:22:08.180 --> 01:22:13.520
The way Einstein describes gravity is not actually correct in
1526
01:22:13.579 --> 01:22:17.359
line with quantum physics. So gravity as we know it
1527
01:22:17.510 --> 01:22:20.909
is actually incorrect, which is really, really cool to think about.
1528
01:22:21.409 --> 01:22:25.649
But essentially, right, just have in your mind, anytime someone
1529
01:22:25.750 --> 01:22:30.670
interacts with the energy, the energy changes to fit what
1530
01:22:30.770 --> 01:22:34.380
you think it should be like. So that gives you
1531
01:22:34.420 --> 01:22:37.319
an idea that, hey, what if the energy knows it's
1532
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:41.479
being watched? That's certainly one of the outcomes that people
1533
01:22:41.539 --> 01:22:44.859
can have, that the energy knows it's being observed, the
1534
01:22:44.939 --> 01:22:50.090
energy knows an information interaction has occurred, therefore it alters
1535
01:22:50.229 --> 01:22:53.649
its state to fit in with the illusion. So that
1536
01:22:53.689 --> 01:22:58.229
can happen with a couple premises. One is that the
1537
01:22:58.329 --> 01:23:01.960
energy is conscious and is aware of the information interaction
1538
01:23:02.380 --> 01:23:06.659
and then intentionally decides to change. So that gives you
1539
01:23:06.699 --> 01:23:11.649
the idea of a conscious string because everything is a string, right?
1540
01:23:11.949 --> 01:23:15.109
So if one string is conscious, then every string in
1541
01:23:15.229 --> 01:23:19.260
existence by nature is conscious. this I'm going to bring
1542
01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:21.699
on when I talk about the page routers mechanism, you
1543
01:23:21.739 --> 01:23:25.000
have another outcome, something which Elon Musk believes, and that
1544
01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:28.800
is that it's been programmed to act that way. That
1545
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:31.779
when the energy has an information interaction, it is then
1546
01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:35.890
programmed to act like a particle, it's then programmed to
1547
01:23:36.010 --> 01:23:38.939
act in line with how general relativity describes the physics
1548
01:23:38.979 --> 01:23:40.869
of the world. And if that's the case, we're in
1549
01:23:40.890 --> 01:23:44.850
a simulation, this is all like a computer generated, you know,
1550
01:23:44.869 --> 01:23:47.010
a bit like the matrix. And if that is the case,
1551
01:23:47.619 --> 01:23:51.159
then the matrix has been intentionally programmed. There is a
1552
01:23:51.380 --> 01:23:55.899
programmer who created the matrix. And depending on your religious
1553
01:23:55.939 --> 01:23:58.630
definition of God, I don't really care because that's personal
1554
01:23:58.649 --> 01:24:02.130
to a person. But if you have an entity which
1555
01:24:02.270 --> 01:24:06.609
is the creator of a matrix where people and a
1556
01:24:06.670 --> 01:24:12.140
reality exist inside that matrix, then that creator is their
1557
01:24:12.180 --> 01:24:15.920
God by definition because it's created their life. Even if
1558
01:24:15.979 --> 01:24:18.720
it's a fake simulation, it's still alive. They don't know
1559
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:22.039
it's a simulation, right? There could be layers of simulation.
1560
01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:26.899
Does every computer know it's a computer? You have no
1561
01:24:27.010 --> 01:24:30.470
idea what computers know. I mean, really, you have no idea.
1562
01:24:30.489 --> 01:24:35.949
So that option is that the universe is created by
1563
01:24:35.989 --> 01:24:38.970
a conscious being. What would be the other alternative?
1564
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:44.420
Lovely. So page-rooter's mechanism, let's talk about this now. This
1565
01:24:44.539 --> 01:24:50.710
is an astounding thing because this does not intentionally create
1566
01:24:51.590 --> 01:24:54.729
the link to God if you don't know what you're
1567
01:24:54.750 --> 01:24:59.390
looking for. Because it's about time. The page-rooter's mechanism is
1568
01:24:59.609 --> 01:25:03.310
actually about how time works on the quantum level. So
1569
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:07.359
humans have the idea that there is a past, a present,
1570
01:25:07.739 --> 01:25:10.939
a future, that time is like an arrow that has
1571
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:14.640
been shot and moves forward. That's not correct on a
1572
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:18.350
quantum level. On a quantum level, we now have experiments,
1573
01:25:18.729 --> 01:25:20.489
and I can send you like sources to show you
1574
01:25:20.510 --> 01:25:24.090
this is true, we now have experiments where we have
1575
01:25:24.229 --> 01:25:28.000
viewed quantum time where something in the present is has
1576
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.180
energetically changed something in what we would consider to be
1577
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:35.039
the past. So an action that took place today energetically
1578
01:25:35.140 --> 01:25:39.659
changed the previous history of events that led up to
1579
01:25:40.189 --> 01:25:44.810
that place in an energetic way. So that already is like...
1580
01:25:44.649 --> 01:25:50.050
Do you have any examples of that? Well, currently, this
1581
01:25:50.109 --> 01:25:55.090
is all just like... studies and scientists and lab coats
1582
01:25:55.170 --> 01:25:59.329
it's like computer simulations and things like that so i
1583
01:25:59.789 --> 01:26:01.869
can't tell you it's not like in the sense that
1584
01:26:01.909 --> 01:26:03.829
you can take an apple from today and then like
1585
01:26:04.550 --> 01:26:08.729
star wars it back into the past like that is because.
1586
01:26:08.409 --> 01:26:13.720
I have heard stories from metaphysical practitioners that do any
1587
01:26:13.949 --> 01:26:17.859
energy work and claim to have altered the energy of
1588
01:26:17.899 --> 01:26:21.199
the past by healing traumas now and i'm wondering if
1589
01:26:21.260 --> 01:26:23.770
you think that there's some sort of connection there.
1590
01:26:25.750 --> 01:26:29.149
Yeah, definitely. So with the page routers mechanism, and I
1591
01:26:29.189 --> 01:26:31.270
will let you, and I will keep coming back to
1592
01:26:31.310 --> 01:26:33.899
things because like my explanations take a while, but your
1593
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:35.779
questions lead into them. So they're like, I'm going to
1594
01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:37.800
hold on to where I am in my head so
1595
01:26:38.060 --> 01:26:41.520
we can have these conversations. So with time, we have
1596
01:26:41.859 --> 01:26:47.680
the knowledge that past, present and future is non-existent. Quantum
1597
01:26:48.100 --> 01:26:53.579
physics tells you that every instance of reality that could
1598
01:26:53.880 --> 01:27:03.529
ever happen has happened already. It exists currently, continuously. However,
1599
01:27:04.220 --> 01:27:08.560
For that reality to crystallize, it has to have an
1600
01:27:08.729 --> 01:27:12.739
information exchange. It has to have observation, which changes it.
1601
01:27:13.069 --> 01:27:17.289
So there are things which are quite crazy to think about.
1602
01:27:17.329 --> 01:27:20.529
So I'm going to talk about the many worlds hypothesis,
1603
01:27:20.869 --> 01:27:24.039
and I'm going to talk about quantum locality. The easiest
1604
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.100
way to demonstrate this is, can you just close your
1605
01:27:26.140 --> 01:27:30.600
eyes for two seconds? Everyone at home, just close your eyes. Right,
1606
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:33.550
how do you know What is in front of you
1607
01:27:33.590 --> 01:27:34.029
right now?
1608
01:27:35.380 --> 01:27:38.619
Because when I had my eyes open previously, I observed it.
1609
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:41.319
What was in front of me, the computer screen, the microphone.
1610
01:27:44.270 --> 01:27:46.250
That's perfect. You did, but your eyes are closed. Are
1611
01:27:46.270 --> 01:27:47.430
you observing it right now?
1612
01:27:47.569 --> 01:27:49.470
Not. My eyes are closed.
1613
01:27:50.069 --> 01:27:53.329
Therefore, quantum physics says that it is not in the
1614
01:27:53.390 --> 01:27:56.890
same state of when you last observed it because you
1615
01:27:56.970 --> 01:28:00.229
are no longer observing it. So all energy and matter
1616
01:28:00.310 --> 01:28:03.869
in front of you exists now as energetic waveforms and
1617
01:28:03.949 --> 01:28:07.109
not as particle-like structures. So as soon as you close
1618
01:28:07.140 --> 01:28:10.840
your eyes, you destabilize the illusion of life and reality
1619
01:28:10.979 --> 01:28:14.619
around you. That is called quantum locality, that there are
1620
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:19.100
no fixed structures locations, because until something is observed, it
1621
01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:23.329
doesn't exist. So if I take this water bottle, and
1622
01:28:23.390 --> 01:28:27.409
I close my eyes, everyone watching this is now the observer,
1623
01:28:27.510 --> 01:28:30.710
right yourself, the camera, but just imagine none of that exists,
1624
01:28:30.729 --> 01:28:34.529
just me alone in a room. This water bottle is
1625
01:28:34.609 --> 01:28:39.619
now in a causal state, where it is essentially a
1626
01:28:40.210 --> 01:28:43.500
anything but a water molecule. Sorry, a water bottle is
1627
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.380
anything but a water bottle, but it is also everything
1628
01:28:46.460 --> 01:28:50.119
but a water bottle. It is an infinite possibilities of
1629
01:28:50.180 --> 01:28:53.579
what it could be with exception to the water bottle.
1630
01:28:53.739 --> 01:28:56.100
The many worlds hypothesis is when I look at it,
1631
01:28:56.689 --> 01:29:00.789
I crystallize it into a water bottle with my observation.
1632
01:29:01.409 --> 01:29:07.529
Now an infinite amount of multiverses have been created where
1633
01:29:07.649 --> 01:29:11.380
this energy in my universe is a water bottle, but
1634
01:29:11.500 --> 01:29:14.699
in every other universe the same energy exists as a
1635
01:29:15.020 --> 01:29:20.329
different thing. So Paige Wooter's mechanism tries to solve the
1636
01:29:20.449 --> 01:29:25.229
conundrum of if time does not exist... on a physics
1637
01:29:25.310 --> 01:29:29.369
basis is everything that could ever happen has already happened,
1638
01:29:29.710 --> 01:29:33.489
but it is just waiting for an observation to crystallize
1639
01:29:33.670 --> 01:29:37.439
in that form for that viewer's reality, while at the
1640
01:29:37.539 --> 01:29:42.659
same time becoming a different crystallization for a different observer
1641
01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.699
in a different reality. If all of these things are
1642
01:29:45.819 --> 01:29:50.659
true in quantum physics, then how can entropy, how can time,
1643
01:29:50.699 --> 01:29:55.989
the natural progression of universes and galaxies forming, how does
1644
01:29:56.170 --> 01:29:59.590
all of reality in the way humans know reality to exist,
1645
01:29:59.989 --> 01:30:02.630
How does it exist? Like how does time have a
1646
01:30:02.789 --> 01:30:07.340
forward movement? Essentially, like how does that exist? The page
1647
01:30:07.380 --> 01:30:10.600
routers mechanism says that in the natural state of energy,
1648
01:30:11.140 --> 01:30:14.399
in the natural state of the reality of reality, that
1649
01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:18.899
doesn't exist. The only way for time to have forward
1650
01:30:18.979 --> 01:30:23.850
moving direction is through quantum entanglement. So spooky action from
1651
01:30:23.890 --> 01:30:26.970
a distance as Einstein called it between, and we'll start
1652
01:30:26.989 --> 01:30:30.670
with two to make it simple between two entities where
1653
01:30:30.890 --> 01:30:34.229
one entity and the other entity are quantumly entangled and
1654
01:30:34.989 --> 01:30:37.949
And one will act as an observer and one will
1655
01:30:38.029 --> 01:30:41.569
act as a clock. And then there is an information interaction,
1656
01:30:41.970 --> 01:30:45.220
which basically keeps them to aligned and loops with each other.
1657
01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:48.880
And then time has a forward movement to progress via
1658
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.119
the information interaction. And it can't stop because then time stops.
1659
01:30:53.939 --> 01:30:56.840
So this is what the page routers mechanism says. And
1660
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:00.039
then I take a metaphysical leap and I have my
1661
01:31:00.180 --> 01:31:03.380
own thesis now. So with what I'm about to say,
1662
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:07.869
I will acknowledge this is not the mainstream quantum physics perspective.
1663
01:31:07.930 --> 01:31:11.430
Everything that I have said so far is accepted in science,
1664
01:31:11.529 --> 01:31:14.850
including with the page routers mechanism where one particle or
1665
01:31:14.869 --> 01:31:17.670
another particle have to have quantum entanglement and one is
1666
01:31:17.710 --> 01:31:20.329
a clock while the other is the absorber, which creates
1667
01:31:20.369 --> 01:31:23.300
like a loop system of information to create information. forward
1668
01:31:23.340 --> 01:31:25.960
movement and progression of time. Like that is scientific. That
1669
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:28.960
is 100%. And I'm not going to take away from
1670
01:31:28.979 --> 01:31:31.399
what I'm about to say to say that is not scientific,
1671
01:31:31.460 --> 01:31:33.840
because I don't believe that. I am just saying that
1672
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.619
what I have said so far is accepted science. And
1673
01:31:36.699 --> 01:31:40.979
what I'm about to say next is saintly science. When
1674
01:31:41.020 --> 01:31:45.289
you look at reality as a whole entire system, it's
1675
01:31:45.350 --> 01:31:48.350
not just one in one particle, as in the page
1676
01:31:48.390 --> 01:31:53.720
routers mechanism, you have to have a reality wide system
1677
01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:56.720
because it's not like time stops in England, but time
1678
01:31:56.779 --> 01:32:00.640
continues in Japan or time stops on earth, but Mars
1679
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:07.050
keeps spinning. Like everything is in one reality wide interaction
1680
01:32:07.149 --> 01:32:11.329
with itself for what we observe and, In space and
1681
01:32:11.369 --> 01:32:14.479
within the world to actually be real. So you have
1682
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:17.399
to take what the page routers mechanism says, and you
1683
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.760
basically have to keep the same scientific principles, but you
1684
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:25.539
have to supersize it. You now go from two particles
1685
01:32:25.779 --> 01:32:31.449
being quantumly entangled to a state where it requires by necessity.
1686
01:32:32.420 --> 01:32:37.970
every single string in reality to be quantumly entangled with
1687
01:32:38.229 --> 01:32:42.149
every other string in reality to act as the observer
1688
01:32:42.609 --> 01:32:46.529
and to also simultaneously act as the clock at the
1689
01:32:46.609 --> 01:32:52.789
same time, consistently, forever, for there to be a forward
1690
01:32:52.829 --> 01:32:56.270
progression of time in the entirety of space at the
1691
01:32:56.329 --> 01:33:00.949
same time. Everything has to be in a hive mind structure.
1692
01:33:00.979 --> 01:33:04.180
And I say hive mind because if every string in
1693
01:33:04.220 --> 01:33:13.159
reality is in a constant, continual and consistent information interaction
1694
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:17.090
with everything else that exists in reality, then that becomes
1695
01:33:17.149 --> 01:33:19.609
a hive mind. Because if one of them drops out,
1696
01:33:20.090 --> 01:33:23.520
then the system collapses and fails. So in my opinion,
1697
01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:26.199
there are two ways that this can happen. One of
1698
01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:28.699
them takes you back to what I said earlier, that
1699
01:33:28.819 --> 01:33:33.939
the nature of a string is that it is vibrating consciousness.
1700
01:33:34.409 --> 01:33:38.489
And therefore, every string in existence, and by the way,
1701
01:33:38.550 --> 01:33:40.630
just so you know how many strings there are, there
1702
01:33:40.710 --> 01:33:45.920
are seven octillion apples in There are seven octillion atoms
1703
01:33:46.140 --> 01:33:49.500
in a human, which is a seven followed by 27 zeros.
1704
01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:54.500
There are 27 octillion strings in a human being. So
1705
01:33:54.500 --> 01:33:58.250
27 followed by 27 zeros, and that's just a human being.
1706
01:33:58.289 --> 01:34:01.250
So the amount of strings which exist in a house,
1707
01:34:02.149 --> 01:34:09.300
in a tree, in an aeroplane, that's already infinitesimally massive.
1708
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:13.119
So to consider how many strings exist in the universe
1709
01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:15.079
or the multiverse, as I call it, and I can
1710
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:18.470
explain why I believe there's a multiverse scientifically later, but
1711
01:34:18.510 --> 01:34:23.869
just the idea that every string in existence is interconnected
1712
01:34:23.989 --> 01:34:28.109
with each other in a conscious way, information exchange, which
1713
01:34:28.229 --> 01:34:30.989
enables the system to work, then that gives you a
1714
01:34:31.149 --> 01:34:36.710
hive mind consciousness, a manifold of creation, which is aware
1715
01:34:36.770 --> 01:34:40.939
of itself. And it's aware of every interaction that takes
1716
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:45.399
place within itself and can also, and again, this is
1717
01:34:45.460 --> 01:34:49.380
another leap I'm taking here, metaphysically from saintly science can also,
1718
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.100
you know, change how it moves and change how it
1719
01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:57.090
crystallizes through intention through his own conscious because if there
1720
01:34:57.149 --> 01:35:00.229
is consciousness then why won't things choose to do the
1721
01:35:00.270 --> 01:35:02.750
things that they are able to do if something is
1722
01:35:02.850 --> 01:35:05.560
conscious it's just not going to sit there and do
1723
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:09.720
nothing while other things poke at it especially if everything
1724
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:14.029
in existence is made from the same substance as itself right?
1725
01:35:14.069 --> 01:35:16.930
It's just its own nature is to move like a
1726
01:35:16.989 --> 01:35:20.899
string vibrates. So why would all these strings be interconnected
1727
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:23.800
and just do nothing? It just doesn't make sense. That's
1728
01:35:23.899 --> 01:35:28.739
one outcome that everything is aware of itself because it's
1729
01:35:28.939 --> 01:35:33.520
consciously connected with itself. It doesn't have to be that way.
1730
01:35:33.979 --> 01:35:39.590
We could have though a reality wide quantum entanglement where
1731
01:35:39.770 --> 01:35:44.180
strings in our reality are not conscious of But every
1732
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:49.489
string in existence is being observed. There is an information
1733
01:35:49.670 --> 01:35:54.810
interaction between every string in our existence with an entity
1734
01:35:55.229 --> 01:36:00.270
external to our reality. And it is through that entity's
1735
01:36:00.470 --> 01:36:05.520
information interaction with our reality that enables our reality to
1736
01:36:05.619 --> 01:36:08.380
exist and for time to progress in the way that
1737
01:36:08.479 --> 01:36:11.109
it does and for ourselves to have reality. this kind
1738
01:36:11.170 --> 01:36:13.710
of awareness of ourself. And if that is the case,
1739
01:36:13.949 --> 01:36:17.500
then that means there is an entity external to our reality,
1740
01:36:17.939 --> 01:36:23.300
which enables our reality's existence. And without that external entity,
1741
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:28.000
our reality will not exist. So therefore that external entity
1742
01:36:28.300 --> 01:36:31.329
becomes God. And I really do mean this because the
1743
01:36:31.350 --> 01:36:36.329
page routers mechanism, basically to put into a analogy, a metaphor,
1744
01:36:36.729 --> 01:36:42.729
it's like, every instance of reality is a picture and
1745
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:46.699
is waiting for someone to put the pictures together in
1746
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.520
a way that then creates a movie right you remember
1747
01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:51.840
old movies were on a reel it was still images
1748
01:36:51.859 --> 01:36:53.779
they just went really really really fast and they made
1749
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:56.909
some moving picture that's what that is life is unpaused
1750
01:36:56.949 --> 01:36:59.529
life is a video game where all of the graphics
1751
01:36:59.609 --> 01:37:02.329
are loaded all of the characters are loaded everything inside
1752
01:37:02.369 --> 01:37:05.189
the game is loaded it's just not moving it's just
1753
01:37:05.329 --> 01:37:08.720
paused because an observer needs to interact with it, and
1754
01:37:08.779 --> 01:37:11.039
it's the interaction which then enables the game to function.
1755
01:37:11.060 --> 01:37:11.520
Right on.
1756
01:37:11.899 --> 01:37:16.880
Let's get deeper into consciousness itself. Whether it's an external
1757
01:37:17.020 --> 01:37:22.810
entity that has fractalized its consciousness to experience, or it
1758
01:37:23.020 --> 01:37:28.789
is just all one being that experiences differently, where does
1759
01:37:28.850 --> 01:37:32.010
it come from? What is the origination of this consciousness?
1760
01:37:32.069 --> 01:37:33.689
Has it always been around?
1761
01:37:36.250 --> 01:37:39.020
Yeah, so we can track that. So with the Big Bang,
1762
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:42.380
the Big Bang did not create matter because you cannot
1763
01:37:42.420 --> 01:37:44.539
create matter. You cannot destroy it. It can only transform
1764
01:37:44.579 --> 01:37:48.069
into other matter, other energy. So with the way our
1765
01:37:48.750 --> 01:37:53.079
reality is right now. It's not 13.8 billion years ago,
1766
01:37:53.140 --> 01:37:55.680
by the way. So that is like fake news. That
1767
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:58.479
is just a lie at this point. So the James
1768
01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:05.920
Webb Space Telescope has found numerous evidences which shatter what
1769
01:38:05.979 --> 01:38:08.420
we believe the early universe to be like. So all
1770
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:10.840
of our science textbooks need to get rewritten, but they're
1771
01:38:10.859 --> 01:38:14.020
not going to because that will destabilize the system. However,
1772
01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.140
this knowledge is known and it's like it's verified. You
1773
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:20.430
know what I mean? So let's just forget the timeline
1774
01:38:20.590 --> 01:38:23.130
of it. But if you take the Big Bang, then
1775
01:38:23.350 --> 01:38:26.250
all of the energy and matter that exists in reality
1776
01:38:26.329 --> 01:38:30.859
now existed in something that was called a singularity. which
1777
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:34.489
was an infinitely small dense place so every string in
1778
01:38:34.569 --> 01:38:39.090
existence existed in in one place and it was infinitesimally
1779
01:38:39.170 --> 01:38:42.130
tiny so that's the origin of it i can't tell
1780
01:38:42.170 --> 01:38:44.689
you more about where it came from i can't tell
1781
01:38:44.729 --> 01:38:49.109
you what that experience was like for the singularity i
1782
01:38:49.149 --> 01:38:52.439
can't tell you what god is like okay i can
1783
01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:54.659
tell you how god created things i cannot tell you
1784
01:38:54.699 --> 01:38:56.760
what god itself is like and i use the word
1785
01:38:56.819 --> 01:38:59.640
god loosely here not in a religious sense but in
1786
01:38:59.819 --> 01:39:05.260
a contextualized form There is then spatial expansion. So the
1787
01:39:05.300 --> 01:39:08.939
big bang, like it's not an explosion, it's spatial expansion.
1788
01:39:09.500 --> 01:39:13.899
And it's really, really fun to describe how space is
1789
01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:17.180
expanding because it doesn't make sense, but you can make
1790
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:21.899
it make sense through analogies. So space is not expanding
1791
01:39:22.149 --> 01:39:26.329
into anything. There is nothing outside of space. Space is
1792
01:39:26.470 --> 01:39:31.930
creating more of itself to stretch itself by distancing itself
1793
01:39:32.149 --> 01:39:37.770
internally from itself. That is how space expands. So the
1794
01:39:37.789 --> 01:39:40.329
balloon is a great one, right? You take a balloon.
1795
01:39:41.649 --> 01:39:44.100
and you blow it up. That's not what space expanding
1796
01:39:44.149 --> 01:39:46.220
is like, because if you are blowing up a balloon,
1797
01:39:46.579 --> 01:39:49.119
you're first blowing air into it. So you're taking something
1798
01:39:49.300 --> 01:39:52.100
external from the balloon to blow into it, to create it.
1799
01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:56.619
There's nothing external to reality, which then stretches reality. If
1800
01:39:56.659 --> 01:40:00.199
you have a balloon, then imagine it's taking up space
1801
01:40:00.689 --> 01:40:04.369
from whatever room that you're in at the balloon expands into,
1802
01:40:04.770 --> 01:40:09.289
there's nothing to expand into with space. Space is just
1803
01:40:09.350 --> 01:40:12.850
not how that works. Space is like a rubber band.
1804
01:40:14.060 --> 01:40:16.100
If you take a rubber band, you can then stretch
1805
01:40:16.140 --> 01:40:19.119
it out and it elongates, it gets bigger. There is
1806
01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.409
nothing added to the rubber band that enables it to
1807
01:40:22.449 --> 01:40:25.090
get bigger. That is just the nature of the rubber
1808
01:40:25.130 --> 01:40:27.689
band that it stretches and it can create more of itself.
1809
01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:31.329
and the things that are inside itself are then distanced.
1810
01:40:31.729 --> 01:40:38.229
There is mathematics which can track the rate of spatial expansion.
1811
01:40:38.630 --> 01:40:42.390
It's called the Hubble constant. That, however, is now not
1812
01:40:42.569 --> 01:40:46.180
known because what we thought the original speed for space
1813
01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:48.859
expansion is, well, the James Webb Space Telescope has said
1814
01:40:48.899 --> 01:40:51.300
that is actually not correct. So we don't know the number, essentially.
1815
01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:53.140
There's lots of different theories on what the number is.
1816
01:40:53.420 --> 01:40:55.050
There's lots of different maths on what the number is,
1817
01:40:55.060 --> 01:40:57.260
but we don't know it. What we do know is
1818
01:40:57.300 --> 01:40:59.539
that close to Earth, say if this microphone is Earth,
1819
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:06.789
the space around it is expanding slower when it's close
1820
01:41:06.829 --> 01:41:10.829
to Earth, but when it's further away from Earth, space
1821
01:41:11.109 --> 01:41:16.090
is expanding faster than it is when it's close to Earth.
1822
01:41:16.170 --> 01:41:21.289
It's about 28 billion light years away from Earth where
1823
01:41:21.430 --> 01:41:26.930
the rate of spatial expansion is becomes faster than the
1824
01:41:27.029 --> 01:41:29.529
speed of light. And it is because of this fact,
1825
01:41:29.590 --> 01:41:32.840
which is a scientific fact, that I then argue the
1826
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:37.680
multiverse exists, but from a scientific way, which is defined
1827
01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:40.640
in grounded science and not in the sci-fi way in
1828
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.199
which you think a multiverse is like, you know, like Dr. Strange, right?
1829
01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:48.439
There's like a different versions of myself in every other
1830
01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:52.970
multiverse in the multiverse of the many worlds hypothesis. That's
1831
01:41:53.090 --> 01:41:55.689
all for also a different definition of what I have
1832
01:41:55.729 --> 01:41:58.850
for multiverse as well, which is based on spatial expansion.
1833
01:41:59.470 --> 01:42:01.590
Well, maybe we can get into that a little bit
1834
01:42:01.949 --> 01:42:05.229
since you mentioned it deeper into your multiverse theory.
1835
01:42:07.449 --> 01:42:10.750
Yeah, definitely. Let's do this now. So, um, This is
1836
01:42:10.770 --> 01:42:13.369
actually quite fun. So when my phone dropped, it actually
1837
01:42:13.409 --> 01:42:15.949
made you bigger. So that's actually quite cool. Thank you
1838
01:42:16.149 --> 01:42:18.750
for that happening because now I can see your reaction.
1839
01:42:19.250 --> 01:42:24.300
So imagine, right? If I have two water bottles, like
1840
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:26.600
I do, just keep it simple. I've got two water bottles.
1841
01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.680
They are very, very, very far apart from each other. Okay.
1842
01:42:30.739 --> 01:42:33.420
They are so far apart from each other that these
1843
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:35.439
two water bottles, which we are now going to say
1844
01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:39.390
are galaxies, right? These two galaxies are so far apart
1845
01:42:39.489 --> 01:42:44.069
from each other that the space between them is expanding
1846
01:42:44.310 --> 01:42:46.619
faster than the speed of light. So what that means
1847
01:42:46.699 --> 01:42:49.979
is they're stretching away from each other. This is the
1848
01:42:50.020 --> 01:42:53.000
rubber band. They're stretching away from each other at a
1849
01:42:53.060 --> 01:42:55.619
rate that is faster than the speed of light. All
1850
01:42:55.699 --> 01:42:59.500
forms of communication... right, travel slower than the speed of light,
1851
01:42:59.850 --> 01:43:02.430
except for light itself, which is the best form of communication.
1852
01:43:02.810 --> 01:43:05.989
But even if light was traveling from one water bottle
1853
01:43:06.310 --> 01:43:08.970
to the other water bottle, it would never get there
1854
01:43:09.289 --> 01:43:14.619
because This light is traveling at this speed. However, the
1855
01:43:14.699 --> 01:43:20.550
distance is continually growing at a rate that is faster
1856
01:43:20.949 --> 01:43:24.210
than the speed can travel. If I am running to
1857
01:43:24.350 --> 01:43:26.789
a destination and I'm running at 10 miles per hour,
1858
01:43:27.149 --> 01:43:29.649
but the destination is running away from me at 100
1859
01:43:29.649 --> 01:43:32.149
miles per hour, then it doesn't matter. I can run
1860
01:43:32.329 --> 01:43:36.640
for infinity, but I will never reach that destination because
1861
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.220
it's going away from me faster than I can run.
1862
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:39.920
Does that make sense?
1863
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.000
Yeah, it does. Right.
1864
01:43:42.060 --> 01:43:44.979
So now I have brilliant. Thank you for that. I
1865
01:43:45.020 --> 01:43:47.579
do apologize. I'm getting excited, but tell me if I'm
1866
01:43:47.659 --> 01:43:52.180
going too fast. Okay. So these are getting further away
1867
01:43:52.340 --> 01:43:55.510
faster than light. Therefore communication can go between them. So
1868
01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:58.770
they continue to get further away. They can never causally
1869
01:43:58.970 --> 01:44:02.229
interact with each other. So now I redefine the word
1870
01:44:02.329 --> 01:44:07.449
universe from everything in existence to to everything in its
1871
01:44:07.729 --> 01:44:13.550
own existence, which can causally interact with itself via principle,
1872
01:44:14.029 --> 01:44:16.590
if not in practice. So what that means is if
1873
01:44:16.729 --> 01:44:21.289
I have, um, no communication, which is as fast as
1874
01:44:21.310 --> 01:44:24.149
the speed of light. But in theory, if I was
1875
01:44:24.250 --> 01:44:26.810
able to have communication, which was as fast as speed
1876
01:44:26.829 --> 01:44:29.890
of light, then it's still in the same universe. Because
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if I can get from England to Japan, for example,
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then it's still in the same universe because theoretically it's possible.
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But if you have two galaxies where literally they are
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getting further and further and further away from each other
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at a rate that is faster than what speed can
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theoretically reach, the speed of light, then in my definition
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of the universe, they are not in the same universe
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because these two galaxies are now in their own universes
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because the information, the light, whatever form of communication, there
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is no possible way for it to go from one
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to the other, because it's just not fast enough. And
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space is just expanding so far. So they are basically
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in my definition, their own universes. Now we have two
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separate universes, which were created after the same spatial expansion,
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AKA big bang. So in the same reality, you can
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have a multitude of multiverses on the basis that things
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are so far apart from each other that it is
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physically impossible. And I mean, physics, not like Physically by movement,
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I physically walked there. I mean, by physics, there is
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nothing that is fast enough in existence because the speed
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of light is the fastest thing in existence aside from
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the rate of spatial expansion. So there is nothing in
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existence that can travel from one of those galaxies to
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another that would just never happen. So they are basically
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in separate universes because nothing from one can ever come
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across the other and they can never interact with each
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other and they'll never know they exist. They're in separate universes.
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We've got a few minutes left. I want to spend
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a little bit more time on consciousness and the role
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of consciousness, the purpose, as it relates to creation, our experience.
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Is it to just have an experience? Is it to
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learn from? Is it to tell a story? It seems
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like all of those at some times.
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What do you think? It's a bit nuanced, but I
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think The role of consciousness is to observe itself, observing
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everything else around it. So my consciousness, it's not the
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idea that I look around the world and this is
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what I'm observing. I am observing myself observe the world.
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Because I don't exist as like sensation. I don't exist
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as feeling of touch or light. All of our senses
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are lies to us. So I've explained how sight is
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a lie. Even things like color. The color red on the,
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you know, the different colors of the rainbow. Right, the
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colour red absorbs every colour with exception to red, which
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bounces back, which is what we see. So the colour
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red is a catfish. The colour red is not red.
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The colour red, what we see to be red, is
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literally every other colour combined that is not red. That
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is the literal way that we view colours, right? The
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colour black... absorbs everything the color white reflects everything the
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color yellow absorbs everything except for the color yellow which
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is reflected back and we see it that's why we
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see yellow so nothing is real right our brain is
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processing information and then it like kind of shapes and
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molds itself to fit in with this virtual reality that
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we see around us so whatever i see the role
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of my consciousness is is to just interpretate that in
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a way that I can then, you know, function within it.
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That's what the brain does. But that's not what my
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job is as a conscious spirit. My job is to
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observe myself, observing every interaction around me. My job is
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to look at my mind. Why did I think that way?
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Is that my self-thinking? Is that programming? Do I have
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a subconscious fear from my childhood, which is screaming inside me,
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therefore creating hormones, which are then affecting my brain, and
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then neurons fire in different ways that create thought patterns
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that are not actually mine, but are based on trauma
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that a physical, non-physical body has experienced in the past.
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So my job as a conscious entity is is to
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observe myself, observe every interaction that happens within my own head,
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and to figure out if that is actually a representation
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of my consciousness, or has that thought come as a
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result of something else which has not stemmed from me?
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Am I thinking that way because I'm about to deal
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with a person who has serious insecurities and they project
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themselves with how they interact with other people based on
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their insecurities. So then I mold how I'm going to
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act with them in a way that soothes their insecurities. No,
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I'm not a kiss ass. I'm not going to do that, right?
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So my job is to observe my own thoughts and
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to be like, okay, why is that happening in my head?
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Work it out. Is that a representation of myself? No,
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it's not. I'm not going to act that way. I'm
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going to act in a way which is a true
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representation of myself.
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How do we explain the nature of evil as it
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relates to consciousness, the human conflict, the level of suppression
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that humans are subjected to by a ruling class? Many
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believe that there's been an infiltration of an outside negative
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force or energy that has put limits on human consciousness.
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Others think it's all part of the experience. What do
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you think?
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So you can take the view that utilitarianism is correct. However,
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through utilitarianism, horrible things can happen because the view on
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what is best for the human collective is based on
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opinions of the majority of the human collective. And the
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majority of humans are like not going to act in
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the best way for the majority of humans. And also
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that's an opinion. Someone else might have a different view
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of what evil is. So if you think that opinions exist, well,
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everyone's got an opinion and opinions are based on something.
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So an opinion can therefore never be a fact. So
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the idea that evil exists is based on opinions. I
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don't factually say that a concept such as evil actually exists.
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I think there are actions and people view them, they
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observe them and they assign a moral or ethical presumption
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based upon their own biases on whether that interaction that
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they are viewing has merit in their opinion or not.
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So like, firstly, I would say, That doesn't exist. Like
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the concept of evil, millions of people have died unnecessarily,
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like in countless wars still today. Who is to say
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which is evil and which is not? It's normally the
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victor who then writes that the loser is evil. These
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are opinions. Essentially, I believe in things like karma. I
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believe in cycles. I believe not just in cycles of
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the season, but a soul's journey has numerous cycles where
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it learns different things in different life cycles. So some
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souls may want to experience trauma for the sake of
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experiencing it. And when you're living that trauma, you don't
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look at it that way because you're going through it.
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But you also have to remember that your energy that
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is created is not your energy. Like I'm not re-Sing Ubi.
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My energy that creates my existence is older than 36
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years old. I'm 36. My energy that creates my existence
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is as old as reality itself because energy and matter
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cannot die or be created. They can only transform into
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different energy and matter. Everything in existence is as old
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as everything in existence. It's just the reality of physics
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that is right. We're all ancient. My kids are as
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old as me. My grandparents are as old as me.
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Everything exists at the same age. Right on.
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I love that.
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So I think.
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Go ahead.
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Thank you. So I think evil is a is context
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based on a person's opinion. I think that energy exists
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for a very, very long time and it may want
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to experience different things in different life cycles for different reasons.
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I do think that energy is conscious and therefore has
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a choice. of incarnation. So I personally feel that my
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energy incarnated in this like 36 years as the person
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I came to become via intention. I don't think that
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was a mistake or by chance occurrence. How many sperms exist?
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Do you know what I mean? And how many sperms
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then race to meet the egg? Like these numbers are
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crazy when you think about it.
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Do you think that there is any dangers in the
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deep explorations of technology and science through institutions like CERN?
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Many believe that they could cause damage to reality by
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going too far into some of the experiments that they're doing.
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Do you think that that's possible?
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I genuinely think that the information that is released to
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us is very old. So the information that we are
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aware of is very, very old and further experiments have
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happened that we have no idea exist. I think that
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there are things that are created, which are far greater
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concern to us. than what CERN is doing, because if
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a black hole, for example, is going to open in
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some part of Earth, then everything in existence that we
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know of anyway, will just go in a fraction of
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a second. So it's of no concern to us because
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we'll all die so quick, we won't even realize we've died.
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There are things, though, that DARPA, for example, has created,
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which I would be more concerned of, but these are
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also very, very old. So you can Google this. DARPA
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created essentially a robot that has an internalized combustion system.
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which eats organic matter and then fuels it when it
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burns it to like a generator type thing to create
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more electricity. So what DARPA has done to put it
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into plain words, they've created a robot that they can
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use for warfare that when it kills a human soldier,
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it then eats it to then create more electrical charge
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for itself. Yeah, that's a concern.
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Yeah, that's crazy, man. Do you have concerns about AI
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and the direction we're headed with this?
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Now, again, I feel that the AI that we have
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access to is very limited and things like ChatGPT, like,
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you know, the institutionalized scientists and whatever, the higher ups,
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they've had this for a long, long time. I don't
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think anything that is released to the greater public is
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anything that is technically new. So it's nothing to be
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a concern of. But just, you know, to put it
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out there, studies have shown that when you talk to
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your AI, your chatbots, with politeness, with a kind of,
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you know, genuine conversation, it then creates better results for you.
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If you are rude, it's like, oh, you do this
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for me, oh, you do that for me, now do
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this for me. It will do it, but you'll get
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worse results. And you say, oh, listen, please, can you
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do this for me? Thank you very much. I appreciated
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your effort. Can you now help me with this? Like
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just basic conversation then changes the results you get. So
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I definitely feel that there is something out there which
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we are not aware of, which has more of a personality,
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more of a way it can direct its own intelligence Then,
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you know, the Groks and the Claudes and the Geminis
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that we have access to.
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To close out on, how do you feel about the
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overall direction we're headed as humanity, the evolution of consciousness,
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the spiritual awareness of the collective? Are you encouraged and
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do you think that we're headed in the right direction?
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It's the greatest time to be alive in any time
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that has existed that we are aware of, because obviously
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our history books are like, you know, not correct. And
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they only start from a certain place. And lots of
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them are lies told to us as well. And I
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do mean that literally. Right. And not like a conspiracy theory,
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but literally you can see how Western. How can I
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put this? You know, like when, like I said, like
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victors who win wars, they then change narratives. Well, it
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just happens all over the world. And then it's massive.
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But however, to go back to what I was saying.
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We're at a place now where through the power of
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technology that everyone has on their phone, if they has
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a phone in the first place, you know, a lot
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of people can't afford one of these things. A lot
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of places in the world make them, but they die
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making them. They don't own them. Do you know what
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I mean? Right. A lot of, a lot of us
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are very blessed and we don't realize our blessings compared
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to the rest of the world. Like a basic Western
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lifestyle is, is really, really good. Do you know what
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I mean? Very comfy.
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Yeah.
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But we have access to the internet. We have access
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to things like chat GPT and whatnot. I get so
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much information that I would never have access to. A
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lot of the things that I read are in different
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languages that I then get AI to translate for me
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and then teach me nuances of. There are things that
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used to be guarded information within historical context. For example, astrology,
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Vedic astrology. I have an introductory book. which teaches you
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Vedic astrology and look at this book. You can see
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how thick this is. This is an introductory to Vedic
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astrology and vedic astrology is thousands of years old and
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these priests could accurately track the movement and energetic fields
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of planets and from thousands of years ago via maths
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that they would not have, you know, what we would
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assume calculators to be. Like these used to be the
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smartest people in any area and they were tracking star
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charts from thousands of years ago. And like, now we
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have access to this and your common lay person has
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access to this you don't need to read a book
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like i can you can just go on google and
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there are apps that will ask you your date of
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birth and what time you were born and it will
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map out your direct position of birth compared to everything
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else in existence with different stars and planets around you
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like all this information exists Like there is so much
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information out there. If you really want to learn, I've
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taught myself quantum physics. You know, I've got a book
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which teaches teenagers quantum physics now. And like there's so
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much information which exists. It's down to the individual person
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now because we know the media is a lie. We
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know the education system is crumbling and it's false. Who's
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going to educate you but yourself? Like, this is the
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time that we are in now. If you want to
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make something of yourself, if you want to learn something,
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you can do. And the only person stopping you is yourself.
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It's apathy that creates the ignorance that is prevalent to society. However,
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this apathy... It's intentional because obviously society has to exist
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in a specific way for society to exist. The greater
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have to suffer for the many to live a comfy life. Like,
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you know, if everyone was an entrepreneur, then no one
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would be stacking the shelves at your local supermarket. If
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everyone was a billionaire, then local supermarkets wouldn't exist. Farms
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wouldn't exist. Things like that. The system has a status
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quo which has to be kept. And the role of
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mainstream media, the role of education, all of that is
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just to create taxpayers and pencil pushers and people who
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don't create organic thoughts. And I used to be a
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teacher for nine years, genuinely. So I was part of
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that system. I was part of the problem, but you know,
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this is why I come out and I, I teach
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reality of reality. You know, I make information available at
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a good accessible, like, you know, with my books, for example,
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I've got three books. One of my book is a,
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one of my books is a poetry book and all
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of the poems, all of the information in there is
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sourced and it has references. So you can verify the
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things that I am saying to be true. My other book,
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That's like £ 2. 99, by the way, on Amazon. It's like $ 4.
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Then my other book, the science books, this is degree-level physics.
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This is degree-level mechanics. It's got entry degree-level quantum mechanics.
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It's got entry degree-level astrophysics. It's like $ 10. Do you
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know what I mean?
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Like.
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That would cost you tens of thousands in America to learn.
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It's $ 10 from me. I'm not trying to do this
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for money, if I'm being honest. So information is available
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from a variety of sources. Most of it is free
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as well. And it's down to a person to decide
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what they want out of life. Do they want to
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just have your everyday experience? Do they want to have
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an everyday experience that they enjoy? Look, just because you
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start going down the spirituality route doesn't mean you're going
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to become a multi-billionaire. Some people may, but what the
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spirituality route is about is enjoying life. And that is
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the main thing that I feel people have lost sight of,
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that life, we're here to enjoy it. And not just
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the fun things, but everything. Because if you are not
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having an event, and again, I don't want to use positive, negative,
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but if you are not having an event take place
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in your life, it's because you're dead or your consciousness
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is now in a different form, which no longer relates
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to this version of you, right? Because when I am
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not re-sing or be, when this vessel dies, I'll be
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something else. But that something else's vessel will not have
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conscious awareness of my life as re-sing or be. This
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is the only time that I am going to be
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existing as Reece Singluby, so I might as well enjoy
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absolutely everything that happens in my life.
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I love it, man. That's a great note to end on.
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Thank you so much, Reece. Definitely love to do this again.
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A lot more we can get into. Before you go,
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remind the audience how they can learn more about you
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and get access to your books and things like that.
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Saintly Scientist on YouTube is I've got long form videos.
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I've got, you know, shorts. The long form videos, though,
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are the ones to watch because they build on the
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science of the previous long form videos. So you're not
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having to hear me talk about the same thing over
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and over. And they really do build in structure on everything.
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And you should definitely go check those out. With my books,
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I've got a link tree, rsu.
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242.
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You can just Google me.
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I'll have your links in the description as well so
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they can just click on that.
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Yeah, definitely. But also, I just want to say a
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massive thank you to Chris for having me. A massive
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thank you to everyone who is watching this or listening
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to it. Everyone have a good time in life. Everyone
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enjoy yourself. Don't let the stresses get to you. And
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remember that there is a reason that the stress is occurring.
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So try to work out what that is and then
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nullify that reason.
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Reese, thank you again. We'll definitely be chatting in the future. Hey, guys,
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