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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
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I want to welcome back to the show, Walter Bosley.
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He is an investigator of historical occult mysteries, author of
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pulp fiction novels, and a screenwriter who has appeared on
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History Channel's Ancient Aliens. After nineteen years in National security,
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he is a licensed private investigator in California, where he
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also runs his small press publishing company, Lost Continent Library.
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He spends his time writing fiction and nonfiction as well
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as investigating strange mysteries in between PI assignments. Walter, welcome back.
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How you doing pretty good? Glad to be back here.
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It's always good to talk to you.
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Yes, it's great to have you back. We finally made
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it happen again and I'm looking forward to it as well.
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Today I wanted to get your thoughts and insight into
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the extremely strange nature of our current reality and how
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those with eyes to see are aware of some of
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the massive syncreticities and predictive programming that has come out
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of books, literature, and Hollywood throughout our modern history. And
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it seems like this year especially, there are some eyebrow
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raising events occurring in the political space that can seem
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straight out of a pulp fiction novel. And on top
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of that, there's a new level of political propaganda brought
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to us by aiart and algorithms. It gets difficult to
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even imagine what our future can hold, even just a
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few years from now. But I have my popcorn and
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guns ready and we'll see how it goes, I guess.
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But before we get into this, remind the audience just
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a little bit about yourself. It's been a while and
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your work.
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Well. I spent twenty years in the US nation security
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community between multiple agencies, and most of that time was encounter,
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espionage and counterintelligence, and about a third of that time
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was dedicated counter terrorism. I would like to clarify one
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thing because there's there's this, uh kind of ignorant definition
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going around out there that's popular, and there's some guys
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out there that are characterizing anybody in counterintelligence as some
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type of evil, nefarious Gestapo person whose job it was
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was to lie.
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I'm going to be in the C to you, Walter,
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So you know, I said I'm going to be in
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the CIA just from talking to you. I may be
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a shill or what you know.
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Yeah, And and and here's the thing that counter intelligence
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is countering the intelligence and agencies of hostile nations. That's
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what counter intelligence means. It's if if you're into disinformation duties,
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disinformation is what they mean. But they're besmirching the good
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name of counterintelligence. Okay, and US counterintelligence guys who've actually
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done the job and lived in that world don't appreciate
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when civilians get it so wildly wrong just because it's
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the popular rant. So I was in counterintelligence, and when
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you hear those guys say, all them counterintelligence guys their
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job is to lie. They they know this little bit,
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and they think they know a lot more. So Anyway,
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I just felt I felt the need to clarify that because, yeah,
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I'm I'm very proud of my time in counterintelligence counter spionage.
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I did counter espionage operations as well, and again against
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the agents and operations of foreign intelligence services and hostile nations.
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So I didn't do my stuff against any Americans. So
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you know, it's there's a lot of misperceptions out there
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that and this will play into our discussion today because
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it's one of the many misperceptions that stirs people up
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in the wrong direction. People need to be stirred up.
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Don't get me wrong, but there be in the wrong directions.
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So that for twenty years saw a big chunk of
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the world when I was encounter terrorism. And towards the
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end of that, I started my own publishing company. And
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I've been doing that now almost twenty two years, publishing
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company of fiction and nonfiction, and and I've really, I've
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really enjoyed being a publisher. My degree was in journalism,
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so you know, it's kind of being a man of
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letters is part of my formal education and part of
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my life. So that's that's pretty much the quick version right.
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Now, and that's perfect introduction. Now, speaking of misinformation and
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the state of insanity that we're in right now, conspiracy
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culture has become dangerous waters at times. Now I do
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this for a living. This talk show covers conspiracies, the occult, paranormal,
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everything out of the normal space of everyday thoughts. Things
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have gotten so strange in our reality. It's hard to
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decipher some of the things that you interact with through
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social media, because social media is what we are primarily
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using to communicate, to convey our ideas, our theories, and
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really share information as a whole. Right now. So it's
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been interesting to see what's happened since the events of
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twenty twenty have played out, with censorship, with cancel culture,
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and now this it seems like it's just flooded with misinformation,
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bad information. I'd love to get your thoughts and insights
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into how everything has unfolded over the past few years.
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That's a big question. I think I'm on board with,
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you know, all of us who saw an agenda with
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what's been going on from the beginning. And when I
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say from the beginning, I mean you know, the beginning.
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The real beginning of the agenda, of course, was the
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COVID issue, right, the pushing of that on us, the quarantines,
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and then of course the monkey business with the election
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later that year. And you know, the whole objective of
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the current administration from day one was to just simply
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reverse what the previous guy did, you know, and started
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that on day one and increasingly putting the screws to
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the economy. Basically, they want to control the masses. They
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want greater control over the masses the people perpetrating this.
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And you know, one way that you go after a
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society like here in the US is you divide us.
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You keep us very unhappy, you keep us down in.
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One of the best ways to do that is to
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break all of us financially. Okay, Americans, we may disagree
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on a lot of other things, but we usually agree
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that none of us like being broke, not really. And
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the heart of any kind of resistance is a middle class.
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It's been that way in other societies. It's been that
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way in our history. For tyrants to rule, they have
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to destroy, okay, they have to defing and destroy. And
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if they can't eliminate the middle class, okay, because it's
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from the middle classes that people rise into the upper
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class and can potentially become as wealthy and powerful as
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the perpetrators. And they don't want that. There's people out
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there that you know, and I don't think they're crazy.
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They'll point out that. And again, the vaccine is one
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of the signs of this, one of the overt signs
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of this. They want a lot of us dead, okay,
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but before that, they want to drive us into the ground.
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So that's why all the division, that's why the breaking
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of us financially, uh to to that's why ruining entrepreneurship
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on the small mid level corporatism is all they want.
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And so all of the stuff there when you're talking
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about the uh, the predictive programming, okay, what what that's
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serving is the mental confusion that's serving the division and
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the chaos. Okay, it's the kind of thing that we're
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going to notice, I mean, think about it. They want
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us to notice that. Now you can talk about revelation
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of method, right when someone's doing some type of working,
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magical working or such, you know there's the revelation of
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method or just revelation that yeah, we're going to do
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this thing, and then you know it happens. These are
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all tactics to serve the chaos in the division and
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to drive us nuts. Right, they want us so paranoid. Okay,
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that really what the goal is is to have us
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question even the truth, question even the real things. This
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is why you get flat earthers being so adamant that, right,
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this is why you get Apollo eleven moon landing deniers. Okay,
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Because now the thing is, if you say I don't
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think that happened, now when somebody says, well, it did happen,
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and here's the evidence proving it. Now, what these folks
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do is just say, well, I don't accept that. Therefore
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I keep my position. So you know, this is where
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we're at, and they want it to get worse. They
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here's the thing, it's divide and conquered. Okay. They start
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us out on the level where they don't want us
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to believe in history anymore. They want to wipe that out.
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They don't don't want us to believe anything we see,
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and they don't want us to believe each other. Okay,
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And with a lot of people, they the perpetrators of
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this are achieving that. You know, anyway, that was a
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big question, and that was.
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Great of that. I have been checked out of being
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invested in politics at all and on any level. To me,
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I see it, as theater called me a super conspiracy theorist.
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I'm sure that there's levels of it. I'm sure that
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even some of the players in these positions believe that
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they are doing this for certain, but above all, there
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are higher powers pulling the strings. I've come to see that,
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and I have lost faith in the system. And I
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see that both sides have become so extreme that even
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if you're looking at things objectively in the middle, you
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have become the enemy these days because you're not a
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right wing or a left wing extremist.
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Yes, yes, and absolutely, and that's one of my things.
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I have issue with what's going on in our society.
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Now here's how I put it. I personally am a
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right of center guide definitely, Okay, definitely. I've considered myself
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conservative with a small sea.
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Now.
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I have a distaste for the establishment Republican Party, Okay.
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I do not trust nor like neocons because there's just
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a little too much of the fascist thread running through
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their philosophy. Now, a lot of people in our community,
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for a long time they would agree with that, but
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now we've got a new extreme, you know, on the
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right side, which in my opinion, is proving already to
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me and they're going to prove it more to others
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that they're as bad as extremist on the left. But
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if you say anything critical about them to your fellow
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people right of center, you get immediately labeled, well, you're
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a hater, you you hate this particular kind of people.
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Americans are being split and divided, and they're trying to
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push us to the extremes as quickly and as far
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as possible, okay, because they know there's a rationality there.
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or the extreme right is a little more open to
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working together and not being susceptible to the crap that
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they want to control us with. Okay, So what they've
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managed to do with the extremists on the right, in
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my opinion, is they've settled on something that is so
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steeped in the conditioning of many Americans that when you
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speak critically of it, it gets misunderstood. See, And that
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right there is why we have the extremes. There's people
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on the left people I have friends that are left
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of center, family that's left of center, and they're saying
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the same thing about their side. And we would all say,
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what happened to the days when I mean, you're not
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old enough. I'm old enough to remember when most of
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your friends you didn't know how they voted because it
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wasn't something that was, you know, waved around like a
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fiery flag in front of everybody's face. Twenty four to seven.
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You know, we work together, we got along better. But
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you know, they don't want that. They they they don't
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want that. They want these extremes and they want the
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extremists on left and right to be calling the shots
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for each side. In other words, you go and lockstep
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with us here on the far right, or you're not conservative,
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or you're not with us, you're one of them. And
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we know the radicals on the left do the same
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crazy thing. So you know this is this is part
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of what's been going on and what's going on right now.
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Well, I want to go back to the predictive programming
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and synchronistic aspects of what we see on a daily
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basis through Hollywood literature and just in our own lives.
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I in no way claim to understand how synchronicities work,
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but I've experienced it enough to recognize when it happens
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and know that there's something to this. I see it
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in my own life on a small scale, but I
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also see it in a macro sense with everything unfolding,
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and you look back at events throughout history and you
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can see how they're connected in different ways. And earlier
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you mentioned how a lot of it, yes, is programmed
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into it intentionally. But I'm wondering if there's this other
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mystical force, some kind of creative force that flows through
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writers' authors produce sure that comes through, that really creates
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this synchronistic reality that we live in. And it's not
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all top down, pyramid illuminati planned and put in there, you.
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Know, right right, Yeah, I that that, thank you. That's
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another thing. I get so weary of the people that
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it's all a conspiracy. Yeah it's all the Illuminati. No, no,
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it's not all Okay, they love that you believe that.
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And I don't get through discussions like this without having
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to bring up the Dunning Kruger problem. Particularly in the
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United States. Oh my god, we have so many people
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that think they know and remember the Dunning Kruger thing involves.
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It's it's a syndrome where you know, you think you
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know something, you know nothing, or you don't know what
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it is you think you know, and the more you
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think you're right, the less you're right, you know, And
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oh my god, right now, American society is all of
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those idiots. But here's the thing on synchronicity. We know
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that Young defined it as a meaningful coincidence, and that's
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really the best, one of the best definitions that you
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could It is the best definition for a single synchronicity.
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When when I first started encountering them and realizing I
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was encountering them because they're all around us, folks. You're
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encountering them all the time, whether you realize it or not.
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But when I started realizing it and seeing, you know,
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at first you think, oh my god, something's communicating this
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to me. And it can. It can be something that
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is alerting you to them and communicating them to you.
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But then as I experienced them more and got deeper
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and deeper, I began to see that wait a minute.
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Synchronicities are kind of the threads are are are a
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thread in the fabric of reality. Okay, they are. At
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the same time, Synchronicities can be something that is consciously
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placed by a sentient being, be it human or otherwise.
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the sense that it's the nature of how material reality
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manifests and keeps itself going. Let me give you an
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example the Abraham Lincoln jfk You know resonance, right, and
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you've heard this for decades that the synchronicities, the coincidences,
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they used to call them synchronosities between Lincoln's asassination and
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John F. Kennedy's assassination. Right now, this can be looked
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at as both ways that I was describing number one,
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you can look at it as you can look at
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it as something that let's say, in a period of years,
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just for simplicity's sake, for discussion, let's say a century,
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one hundred years. Well, in each century, there are certain
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things that are the iconic things, okay, the what's the
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word for, archetypal things that have to happen to keep
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reality moving forward. And in the ninth in the nineteenth century, okay,
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Abraham Lincoln was in that role of what was programmed
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by nature to happen, the leader who gets assassinated and
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blah blah, blah, blah blah. And then in the twentieth century,
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it just it falls to JFK that he happens to
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fill that slot. In other words, it was going to
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happen again, you know, as it did in the ninth
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It was gonna happen again in some way because remember
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synchronicity's rhyme, they don't necessarily have to man should be identical.
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And so it was just it was just maybe the
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bad luck of these men who you know, their fates
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led them to be in that position for that thing
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that had to happen. The other possibility is that it
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was a conscious act of black magic, for lack of
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a better term, on such a deep and trans temporal
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cross time cosmic level, but perpetrated, okay, in such a way.
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In other words, the Lincoln assassination perpetrated in such a
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way down to certain details that what they did was
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they caused a sympathetic magic ripple in the time stream
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time space continuum, so that they dropped the level of
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the magical act of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln into
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the time space continuum. Okay, and the the the rings
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of waves ripples went out.
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And that next one to match it was the JFK assassination.
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What ninety eight years later, now it could be in
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this century, in the twenty and sixties, we have another
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president assassinated, and it will have all sorts of little
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resonant details with the JFK and Lincoln assassinations, and it'll
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free people out and go.
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What's going on?
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And you know that was, you know, part of the intention.
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So there's an example of two synchronicitous events, two events
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filled with synchronicities that connect them Okay, that could have
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either been induced consciously as act of some type of magic,
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for lack of a better term, or could have just
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been the design of the one hundred year loops that
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we're on, like one hundred year loop, And so when
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the next hundred years start, you see similar things happening
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over and over.
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Yeah, some of the predictive programming that we've seen has
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been so on the nose. It makes me scratch my head,
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raised eyebrow a little bit about where the information comes from.
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And this brings us to where does this I'd call
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them parasitic ruling class get their ideologies from, get the
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information from. And I know you've written lots about and
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discussed the possibilities of time travel and scrawing, and how
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possibly some of these very powerful black magic practitioners, for
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lack of better term, or able to yeah, grasp information
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from somewhere else.
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I think that somebody is able to look across the
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space time continuum. Now, if that's true, if I and
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many others are right about this, then that could be
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evidence for the multiverse theory.
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In other words, they may not be looking back in
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time in this exact dimension that we're living this this
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particular timeline in but maybe they're able to see cross dimensionally, right,
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and they're looking in the past of an adjacent dimension
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that is all virtually identical to this one. But maybe
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with you know certain you know, at least one significant difference, right,
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because the popular understanding of these multiple dimensions is that
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you change something and you're breaking off or you've jumped
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a different track and there's going to be something different.
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I think that this idea that someone can do this,
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and maybe it's having been done for the last now
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one hundred and fifty years.
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Let's say.
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You talk about people talk about the extraterrestrial existence and
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the UFOs and the UFO file being ultra secret. I
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think this is one of the deepest secrets. However it's done,
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however it worked. I do think somebody has the capability
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to be looking across time and space, either with a
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you know, a material technology you know, machinery or device, whatever,
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or you know, some type of organic technology like remote viewing.
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And but but I don't know the secret is exactly
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how I only you know. I think there's hints out there,
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and I explore those hints, and but but I do
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suspect I have no problem with the discussion that somebody
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can do it, and it's being done and could definitely
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explain predictive programming. Although I do want to say this,
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when you think you see an example of predictive programming,
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what I want you The first thing I want you
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to do is measure the the the time between when
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that programming was made public and when the perceived predicted
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event happens. Okay, the longer that time, the greater the
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possibility that the perpetrators of the event got the idea
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from the programming. In other words, this was not predicted
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programming in every case. This was just something some writer
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came up with, either for a laugh or a shock
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or whatever, and a bad guy somewhere between when that
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show or movie was out there publicly and the matching
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event happening, the bad guy bad guys in the meantime
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saw that and it gave him the idea. Right now,
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there's if there's a short period of time and the
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matches are just too extraordinary, that's the predicted programming concern
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that we're talking about. But you have to you have to,
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you know, you have to ask yourself how much time
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is between that? Like my understanding is with the Lone
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Gunman episode where the plane hit the World Trade Center, right,
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I think that was the same year, that was in
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two thousand and one that that episode aired. Yeah, if
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I'm not thinking, yeah, that might be Okay, a couple
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of things here, Okay, Number one, that might be Superficially
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you'd look at it, you go, well, that's too short
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of a time for a bad guy to get the
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idea and then pull off that thing, you know, if
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it was only even if it was just a couple
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of months or whatever, a few months, but definitely if
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it was only weeks or days or whatever. But then again,
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the idea of planes being used as weapons and terror
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stack was an idea that was had been out there,
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that counter terrorism professionals had learned, that bad guys had
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thought of that years ago. So who knows. You know,
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writers on these shows, particularly something you know, this was
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a spinoff of The X Files, you know, they cultivate relationships,
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they cultivate friends, like for the world I was in
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and people talk and they say things and how it
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could have happened. Okay, was some writer in the X
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Files happened to know a guy like I used to
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be you know, and it was talking with him, and
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that guy might have said, yeah, you know, there's one
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terrorist group that they've got a plan to fly airplanes
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into buildings or you know, major buildings like the you
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know this, that or the other of the World Trade Center,
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New York or whatever. And remember they already tried to
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bomb it once in the early nineties. Well, then that
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writer goes, hey, let's have this in the scene there,
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you know, and then of course subsequently it happens. Well,
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of course it happened because their their source in this
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hypothesis told them this was already planned by the bad guys,
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So it was just the timing makes it look oh weird. Okay, Now,
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if you want to be honest with yourself as an
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investigator or somebody trying to ingest all this data we
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got thrown at us, you have to eliminate the mundane
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before you can seriously consider and settle on the extraordinary. Okay,
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you'll be glad you did, because here's the thing. If
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you get in, if people get in the practice of
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stepping back, taking a breath, looking at things objectively, considering
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the more mundane possibilities, when you can eliminate all those
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and you come to the extraordinary, you are more confident
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in your conclusion that it was something extraordinary because you
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did your work, you did your due diligence. When you
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jump right to everything's the extraordinary, well, you look like
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an idiot. Whether you think so or not, you end
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up looking like an idiot. But you know, that's the
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consideration for the predicted programming thing. Now on the side
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of it being what we suspect it is. Yeah, that's
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really that. That's something to be concerned about because my gosh,
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you know, two demonstrate some horrific thing that you're going
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to do with details like in the matrix the nine
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to eleven date on his past, and to be and
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to have the arrogance and confidence that, yeah, you know,
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we're going to pull this off. We're going to do this,
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We're actually going to do this, and there's nothing you
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can do about right.
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Well, you were talking about the possible methods for this
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time travel ability or dimensional hopping, and you mentioned remote viewing,
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and to me, this seems like a very probable way
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to achieve this type of travel. I've spoken with many
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remote viewers and different guests. Some have told stories about
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people who have been able to achieve a fully immersed
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state in these different timelines or these different dimensions for
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a significant period of time and come back with different information.
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I've even heard of people that slip into a different
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timeline and stay there. What do you think about that?
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Do you think this is at all possible and that
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time travel could mainly most easily be achieved through consciousness abilities?
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Well, talking about organic things, I just wrote about what
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you said in this new book that I came out
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with the Time of a guidebook. Yeah, I got into that,
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I explored it. I do think remote viewing is I
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think it's valid. First of all, there's folks out there
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that think it's complete not or nonsense, and you know,
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they just they don't buy into it, and they, you know,
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very loudly tell others not to give it any consideration.
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My personal experience with it has convinced me that there
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is something to it. I acknowledge that there's a bunch
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of Tom Fooler out there, people claiming to be remote viewers,
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and there is nonsense and foolishness with anything.
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You know.
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There's idiots in UFOs, there's idiots in Bigfoot, there's idiots
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and anything you want to, you know, point out you're
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going to find them, right, That's just the way it is.
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But I found remote viewing to be a valid thing.
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And as far as time travel is concerned, I write
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in this book, this time travel guidebook, that I think
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there were I write about. I talk about two writers,
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Jack Finney and Richard Mathieson. They're the authors of two
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great time travel novels. Finny wrote Time and Again. Matheson,
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of course, wrote a novel titled mid Time Return, which
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was changed because of the movie Somewhere in Time. And
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everybody's heard most people have heard of Somewhere in Time.
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And here's the interesting thing. Finney's book has a character
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who's an illustrator. He's an advertising illustrator, and an army officer,
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intelligence officer comes to him and says, we have this
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secret program, very classified. I want to introduce you to it.
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And basically it's about using the mind to time travel, okay,
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to travel through time to a targeted place in time.
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And they have their own little they got a warehouse,
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and they've got the warehouse. They built in little apartments
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in there, and each apartment the remote I'm sorry, the
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00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:02.000
time traveler questers him or herself in there, they wear
479
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.440
the clothes of their target period, they're surrounded by objects
480
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.119
in the environment of their target period, and they use
481
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:16.199
the mind to hypnotize themselves or whatever, and then literally
482
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.719
transport their bodies to the targeted time in the past.
483
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.920
And the main character, the illustrator, he's very successful at it,
484
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.599
and of course the novels about his trip back to
485
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:35.400
the eighteen eighties I think in New York. But you know,
486
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.599
I had read this years ago. But when I learned
487
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.800
about the remote viewing program, I thought, well, wow, that's
488
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.760
you know, you have a viewer in a little cubicle
489
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:52.440
right sequestered from any outside noises or distractions, and they
490
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.239
focus and they use their mind to see right across distances.
491
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.199
And one of the things they claimed they discovered was
492
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.039
they could see across time as well. So I looked
493
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.599
into this, and you know, when I first looked into this,
494
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.039
I found out, wait a minute, the remote viewing program,
495
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:15.679
we're told didn't start until nineteen seventy two, I think
496
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.880
seventy two or three. But boy, does what they do
497
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.920
sound very much like this Jack Finnie novel. Okay, so
498
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:29.199
I wondered, well, shoot, did they get the idea from
499
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:34.599
Finni or were they actually doing this before we're told
500
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.920
that the Army remote viewing program began? In other words,
501
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.400
were they doing this, say in the late sixties and
502
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.199
Finny the author found out about it and did a
503
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.719
fictionalized account, And then we have Matheson five years later,
504
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.360
which just two or three years after the remote viewing
505
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.119
program we are told began. He has a time travel
506
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.800
story where a guy does the same thing. He puts
507
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.800
on a suit of nineteen ten in the movie. In
508
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.800
the book, it's eighteen ninety six, and he is in
509
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.679
a hotel that existed back then, and he convinces himself
510
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.920
that he's back in that time, and it works. He's
511
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.039
able to use the power of his mind, you know,
512
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:23.199
the focusing kind of latches him onto that time and
513
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.320
he's able to with the power of his mind, pull
514
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.239
his body into the past as well, so to speak.
515
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.920
So they are very similar. They came out within five
516
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.280
years of each other. They these are two guys who
517
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.079
knew each other. Okay, Matheson and Finnie were two of
518
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.199
the great sci fi writers and fantasy writers of their day,
519
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.679
their generation, so certainly they you know, would influence each
520
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.159
other but I dug a little deeper. I found out
521
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.039
that Matheson had been in the Army during World War Two,
522
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:56.199
and that Finny, though he hadn't been on active duty
523
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:02.079
in the military, he was working, uh we're told vaguely
524
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:09.719
because he's an illustrator. He was working on the the
525
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.320
the war posters that had to do with keeping your
526
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.519
mouth shut, like loose lips, sink ships, that kind of
527
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.320
And these were the kinds of things that were that
528
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.559
you know, they even had them in my day back
529
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.920
in the eighties. You know, these don't talk kind of posters.
530
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.480
You know, we had them as a novelty, but they
531
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.360
were meant to be taken seriously. And he was doing that.
532
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.360
So what did that indicate to someone like me? Now,
533
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.079
as someone who doesn't him, doesn't in him my background,
534
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.480
you would say, ah, so what he did posters as
535
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:41.719
so what a lot of guys were in the army. Okay,
536
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.960
you can think that. Go right ahead, mister Dunning. Pertin
537
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:49.559
got me knowing a little bit more about that world.
538
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.320
I go, oh, Finny was involved with that effort. What
539
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.880
else was he involved in with military intelligence? Okay, Matheson
540
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.880
he was in the arm Me, what did he really
541
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.480
do in the arm Okay, so did they still have
542
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:10.960
contacts with the military if they had been in military intelligence,
543
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.000
did they learn or did Finny learn about this remote
544
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.599
viewing stuff and he told Matheson about it, or did
545
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.320
Matheson learn about it from his own contact. I just
546
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.199
find it really interesting that these two guys write these
547
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.079
particular type of time stories where it's the power of
548
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.760
the mind in first looking and thinking across time and space.
549
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.920
I just I found it really interesting. And when you
550
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.320
put it all together, you know, you begin to see
551
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.760
an hypothesis emerge that Okay, maybe what we're seeing in
552
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.239
these works of fiction is a clue and a hint
553
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.159
as to what was could actually be done with this
554
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.920
remote viewing stuff. So you know, that's and again I
555
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.960
flashed the book for those you can see my Time
556
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.079
Traveled guidebook. I go into the you know, the details
557
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:04.360
on that.
558
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.400
There's so many questions surrounding this.
559
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.360
Yeah, go ahead. Oh, I'm just saying yes, And I
560
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:20.599
do think remote viewing allows one to look across time
561
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.119
in space.
562
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:21.440
Yeah.
563
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.599
Now, as I was saying, there's so many questions surrounding this,
564
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:31.000
where my mind goes is if we are accessing different
565
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.800
dimensions or realities that are unfolding simultaneously. Are we, in
566
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:42.000
a sense, taking over someone else's consciousness or taking over
567
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.320
someone else's body in a different dimension. Are we pushing
568
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.719
out that consciousness? Or are we creating a brand new
569
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.800
reality just with the power of our mind? My weird
570
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:55.960
mind goes there.
571
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.400
Could be all of it, But I would first I
572
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.880
would suggest another possibility that if your consciousness in this timeline,
573
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:11.400
you know, jumps to a different timeline dimension, Let's say
574
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.360
it's another dimension. What you might be occupying is your
575
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.960
body in that other dimension? I think that's more likely. Or,
576
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.960
as Lovecraft wrote back in nineteen thirty seven before he died,
577
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.639
you know, and he got the idea from a movie
578
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.480
titled Berkeley Square nineteen thirty four. Look it up. He
579
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.079
was obsessed with that film. What you could be doing
580
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.519
is jumping into the body of an ancestor.
581
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.840
You know what I'm wondering you, Does it negate the
582
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.960
consciousness of that say ancestor that is having that human
583
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.280
experience at that time. If our consciousness that has all
584
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:56.000
of our memories from this particular timeline jumps into that one,
585
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.440
does it merge? Or I wonder if it just pushes
586
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.239
that out a very strange interesting question.
587
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:09.119
Could it could merge? But for example, in the story
588
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.159
in Berkeley Square, the ancestor, his consciousness goes forward in
589
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.199
time to the body of the man who's jumped into
590
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.360
his body from the future. So they switch. Yeah, that's
591
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.199
that's one option. Another option is that they're both occupying
592
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:33.000
that body at the same time, and technically you could
593
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:38.239
call that some type of possession and and that could
594
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:45.719
that could cause problems potentially like maybe schizophrenia, you know, disassociation,
595
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.880
that kind of thing, if it's done wrong, or if
596
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.559
the psyche of the person can't handle it or for
597
00:42:53.599 --> 00:43:00.199
whatever reason. You know that if if you consider one
598
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.760
of these options, because neither one of us know you
599
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.840
know the exact answer to that question, but we can
600
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.119
guess at possibilities, right, And it's either you switch places,
601
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.679
or you're both in there at the same time, or
602
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.760
maybe you do merge, and maybe maybe the convergence point
603
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.159
where you merge feels like an enlightenment. Okay, Now, I
604
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.519
had an experience in December of seventy nine where I
605
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:33.599
woke up one morning and everything was different. I was
606
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.800
looking around like, Okay, the first thing I did was
607
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.000
I looked at my hands and I thought, these are
608
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.079
not my hands. And I'm going around the house and
609
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.800
I'm recognizing, you know, my sisters, my mom, and my dad.
610
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.519
But it was in a way it was I recognized
611
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:56.639
everyone there, but it was like, honestly that I was
612
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:01.679
there for the first time. And so if let's say
613
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.840
another me jumped from a different timeline into this one,
614
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.159
into I was sixteen at the time, into my sixteen
615
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:19.559
year old self here, and whatever that other me brought
616
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.119
merged with the me that was already present in this body,
617
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.599
and you know, you add up all to some of
618
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.840
the parts. And I woke up that morning, and yes,
619
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.280
I was enlightened in some way. I was different because
620
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.239
the other me, even though he recognized the members of
621
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.760
the family and the house and everything, he had seen
622
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:48.000
it from the other dimension. Okay, now he was seeing
623
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:52.239
it in this dimension because after I looked at my hands,
624
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.760
I then I touched the wall and was looking at
625
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.039
the texture of the wall, you know. And remember I
626
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.199
was I was a nerdy kid. I didn't drink or
627
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.639
do drugs or anything. I never ingested THC till i'd
628
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.039
been diagnosed with cancer in twenty twenty, and you know,
629
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.039
it started taking gummies, you know, to help with that.
630
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.639
So it wasn't a trip, it wasn't a hangover. It
631
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.599
was woke up and it was weird stuff going on.
632
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:25.280
And so that could have been another me, okay, from
633
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.159
a different timeline. Okay, in the past, I wondered if
634
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:33.239
it was me from my own future jumping back into
635
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.400
my sixteen year old self. But with this multi timeline,
636
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.280
it could be me and older me for example, who
637
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.280
jumped into a younger me in this timeline. So it's
638
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:52.840
still me, but it's an enhanced me because it's me
639
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.800
and another meat.
640
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.920
Do you think that it's possible that what we're seeing
641
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.280
as the Mandela effect could just be reflection of bleeding
642
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.679
through these different dimensions and timelines.
643
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:11.440
Yeah, could be. It could be people having made the
644
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.079
jumps from different timelines and not consciously realizing that that's
645
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.039
what's happened to them, that that's what they've done.
646
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:18.079
But but.
647
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.000
It could all It could be all of this, by
648
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.320
the way, but it could also be in the mix,
649
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.840
could be some shenanigans with technology. You know, there's that
650
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.719
whole issue with cern and collider and things like that.
651
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.639
Yes, you know, well, I did want to get your
652
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:42.840
thoughts on how advanced you think our black sector military
653
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:48.440
technology is compared to what we know about. I know
654
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.079
that you've written about portals many times. I recently went
655
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.559
spent some time at Space Wolf Research Center right next
656
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.639
to Skinwalker Ranch, and the amount of interest in that
657
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:05.239
length and from aerospace companies and billionaires is incredible. So
658
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:10.079
there is something very interesting going on there, and these
659
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:16.159
high level interests, military interest, Pentagon airspace companies, they are
660
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.360
very aware that there is something that they can harness there,
661
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.159
probably weaponize, and I'd like your thoughts on that, especially
662
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.320
when it comes to possibility. I've heard that some of
663
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.159
these entities out there at Skinwalker Ranch have even successfully
664
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.320
opened portals, things have come through, so very interesting things
665
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.960
unfolding there. But the fact that there is such interest
666
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.719
from such high level corporate entities and military tells me
667
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.280
that there's something to all that.
668
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.480
Yeah, well, the technology part, like, how far is are technology? Well,
669
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.400
I think it's easy to say too that the technologies
670
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:04.440
advanced enough that something that they were testing off of
671
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.239
the coast of California in two thousand and four to
672
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.239
this day has a bunch of people convinced that it
673
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.599
was some other worldly thing. Okay, that's that's an example
674
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:22.119
of how advanced some of our technology is. But as
675
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:26.679
far as skin Walker Ranch, again, you got to do
676
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.760
the due diligence on thinking about all this stuff. It
677
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:38.159
could be that what they're interested in in that area, okay,
678
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.599
is not what the wild stories are. It could be
679
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:49.639
that those wild stories are just that wild stories, and
680
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:54.599
they're allowed to be perpetuated because it helps cover what
681
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.400
the real technological interest is.
682
00:48:58.119 --> 00:48:58.360
Okay.
683
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.840
It could be something that scientifically is fascinating and even
684
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.559
for the layman, you know, would be like, oh, that's cool,
685
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.679
you know. But it could also be that all that
686
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.760
stuff about the big giant dire wolf coming through the
687
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.679
portal and all this stuff, that that could just be
688
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.800
nonsense that was a byproduct of an original crazy cover story.
689
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:27.880
Could be you have to consider that possibility. I personally,
690
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.199
I think they already crossed a line of Okay, hard
691
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.920
to believe what's coming out of there, because you know,
692
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:39.599
by the time you get to the point where it's
693
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.000
made into a reality show the way it's been made
694
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.199
into and you know other ways that it's been expressed,
695
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:50.920
then you're you're unfortunately getting into the territory where now
696
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.599
it's difficult to know what are the legitimate accounts and
697
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.719
what are the ones that are just the products of entertainment.
698
00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.920
And so what I fall back.
699
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:08.079
I would love to see the actual government file on
700
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.119
the property, the actual bona fide classified file that's on
701
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:18.960
the property, because that's where you would get the real
702
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.960
stuff to pay attention to. It's like Indrid Cold with
703
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.440
the Woody Dernberger Moffman. Okay, let me tell you something.
704
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:30.880
The legitimate Indrid Cold stuff to pay attention to is limited.
705
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.880
It's what Woody Dernberger first reported. Okay, all that stuff
706
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.840
afterwards about Indrid Cold, the crazy smiling man, and he
707
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.400
appeared in New Jersey and he was and he was
708
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.199
you know this, or some people said it it was
709
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.679
a gang affiliate and all this crazy stuff, particularly the
710
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.760
stuff of the last ten twenty years. This is all
711
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:58.000
most of its nonsense.
712
00:50:58.320 --> 00:50:58.599
Okay.
713
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.519
What they're doing is people are it's on the level
714
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.039
of the creepypasta stuff. Okay, you have to go back
715
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.079
to the source material. And that's what I'm saying about.
716
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:15.920
Unfortunately about Skinwalker Ranch. You can't go on what George
717
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.559
Knapp or somebody. I think he wrote a book that
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involved I could be wrong, but you can't go on
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the books written by folks like in the UFO Paranormal.
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Well, for me, the most interesting thing out there was
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talking to the locals and the natives and the people
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who have had first hand experiences and you know, throw
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away all these stories you hear from these big entities.
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I was talking to the people who have witnessed things personally,
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and some of their stories were fast, absolutely fascinating.
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You get on the ground right and you go talk
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to these people that have lived there, you know, but ultimately,
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as far as you know, talking about the interest in
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the aerospace companies, except that's what I was referring to,
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I would want to see and you know, obviously I've
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been outside. We're all here, you know, as far as
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we know, outside that community, so we don't have access
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to that, and in that would clarify why the aerospace
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and other technology and other such companies are involved. And
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it doesn't mean that it's not I'm not saying that
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it's not extraordinary. What I'm saying is to be selective
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and use discernment in which accounts you're going to you know,
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really considered because ever since it gotten the domain of entertainment, well,
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a lot of crap gets, you know, put out there.
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Got to be careful.
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Now, last half of the show, I want to tie
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back this year's election to time travel and predictive programming.
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And I know you wrote about Ingersoll Lockwood and the
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last President and all the strange connections between these stories.
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For those that may not be familiar, give us an
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overview of Ingersoll Lockwood and some of the stories that
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he wrote.
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Well, it's very simple. Ingersholl Lockwood in the eighteen nineties
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wrote some stories. Two books about a boy, a young
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kid who travels to fantastic places and has fantastic adventures. Okay,
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similar to Alice in Wonderland, Gulliver's Travels. You know, you
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name it, and he happens to have a title of Baron, Okay,
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like there's a duke, there's a prince, there's barn right,
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and his last name happens to be Trump, Baron Trump.
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And this book was written in published in eighteen ninety three.
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It was the eighteen nineties, and they were illustrated by
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a guy named Charles Howard Johnson, who I also talk
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a lot about in My Time Travel book and Charles
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Howard Johnson's illustration of the character Baron Trump, the little
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boy in the stories, Well, bear's an uncanny resemblance, almost exact,
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and in some there is one picture that is exact
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to Donald Trump's son, Baron Trump Baron with two r's
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in the case of Donald Trump's son at the age
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he was and exactly how he looked in twenty fifteen
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when Trump announced that he was running when his son
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Baron was still a little boy, okay, And so that
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prompted people to go, oh, look at this. The kid's
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name is Baron Trump, and he looks just like what's
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going on here? And there's other little things in the story. Well,
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Lockwood also wrote a novella, it's not a full book,
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titled nineteen hundred or the Last President, which in a
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nutshell when you read it, it's essentially saying, what what
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has happened to the United States in the last four
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years since Biden was president? Okay, And there's some synchronicities
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pointing to to Trump in the background and things going
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on with all the dissension in the division in the
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country and stuff. And it ends with a terrorist terrorist
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act a bomb detonated in the Capitol Building, I think
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on or around election day, and you know a lot
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of people have looked at that and wondered, well, what
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is that predicting? Because it already looks like it's seen
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the four years of the Biden presidency, and what's this
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with you know, the baron Trump and what's going on here?
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These books were written in the eighteen nineties and essentially
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lost to history, forgotten about until Trump runs for president
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in twenty fifteen and gets elected and somebody notices, hey,
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wait a minute, what's going on here with this? So I,
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you know, took a look at it, and you know,
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I have my two cents about it out there. But
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what I suggest is that either Ingersoll Lockwood himself or
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his illustrator Charles Howard Johnson used some means of looking
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into the future. Okay, whether it's scrying, using a reflective
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surface and kind of get your mind into a particular
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alpha zone, or using what we would call today remote viewing,
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a form of remote viewing, and doing it that way,
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you're looking through the of time, right, You're gonna see
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things in a way that may not be one hundred
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percent clear. So what you might get is a flash
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of a face, a name, you hear, a name being mentioned,
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El Aaron Trump, Baron Trump, a little flash of a face.
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And so.
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In trying to present an interpretation of this murky vision
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you've had of the future, you know, you end up
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writing a story that is not going to get everything right,
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but it's going to have those hints, those resonances with
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the future, like the character's name, like the illustration of
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how he looks.
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See.
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That's one. That's one possibility. The other possibility that I consider,
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and that I've discussed in both with Todd Wood in
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the ingers Mystery of Ingersol Lockwood book and in my
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Time travel guide book, the possibility of Charles Howard Johnson
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having been a time traveler and he came from our
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times fully of Trump and Baron Trump and all this stuff,
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and went back to the eighteen hundreds, right, and told
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Lockwood you know a bit about stuff in the future.
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And Lockwood, for whatever reason, chose to reflect this knowledge
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00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.239
in this children's story and this you know a much
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more I fear prescience story the Last President.
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Yes, you know, And I just enjoy how aware I've
821
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become that our reality is much stranger than most would admit,
822
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especially the synchronistic aspects that connect everything. It's really amazing. Now.
823
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Final thought, with everything we've discussed today, especially during the
824
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first half of the show, with what's been unfolding, I
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think it's just like I just said, I think that
826
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things have always been in this way. We're becoming more
827
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:06.599
aware that there's some corruption and some fundamental problems with
828
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.519
our ruling class. But with everything that's happened, I wonder
829
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:18.480
if we are going to a better place collectively than
830
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we were from being unaware that if this is all
831
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.480
really a good thing that's unfolded since twenty twenty, we
832
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.480
are seeing sort of this mass awakening, or is it
833
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.400
that we're kind of stuck in these echo chambers because
834
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.239
of technology and social media to where we think a
835
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.280
lot of people are waking up, but we're just being
836
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bounced back to each other. And the only people that
837
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were being shown that are interested in some of these
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00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:49.840
things just based on what the algorithms are feeding them
839
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.559
with social media and things like that. So I wonder
840
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.079
if it's just an echo chamber or if we're having
841
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.280
this really massive awakening right now.
842
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:06.800
It's both anytime. First of all, anytime, you know, nefarious players,
843
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.960
tyrants are exposed. Yeah, that's always a good thing, no
844
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.559
matter what you have to go through to overcome them.
845
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:18.519
That's always a good thing. Always good to overcome tyrants.
846
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:20.880
But there is.
847
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.920
Also a lot of echo chamber stuff going on at
848
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.519
the same time. See, that's the thing. So many people
849
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.559
want to say, it's got to be this one thing. No,
850
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.400
it can't be that, it's got to be this model
851
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:36.400
over here. Oh, it's multiple models going on, folks. It's
852
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.440
it's multiple. There are people who have figured it out.
853
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:45.079
There's even more people who don't know crap about what
854
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:48.880
they're talking about, and they think they've got it figured out. Unfortunately,
855
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.920
those people sometimes get the louder voices, the bigger megaphone.
856
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.079
You know, they can lead you know, people in the
857
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:59.719
wrong direction, you know, and they think they're right. But
858
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.880
there are people who have figured it out maybe, and
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01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.320
I would say a lot of them don't talk, They
860
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:13.480
don't talk about it. Not everybody wants to be famous.
861
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.280
Not everybody wants to be the guy who knows. We
862
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.599
have way too much of that in our community. I
863
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:25.039
think sometimes are our little world of uf and no
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01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:31.760
UFO's conspiracy and parentormal stuff, you know, alternative research rather
865
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.880
than just focusing on what is the possible truth, what
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01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:37.280
are the possibilities?
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01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:38.440
You know.
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01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.159
But I do think that all these things that you're
869
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:50.079
talking about are going on. There are things that aren't
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01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:53.159
what people are building them up to be. There are
871
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.280
things that are what people are concerned that they are. Okay,
872
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:05.039
there are people that are pulling strings to do bad
873
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:09.360
things to us, to manipulate us and control us. But
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01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.360
it's not always in the places people think it is,
875
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.719
and it's not always exactly the way they think it is,
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01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.800
you know what I'm saying it. So you you you
877
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.519
have to be open to all possibilities and aware of
878
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.519
all possibilities out there, okay, but you can't let yourself
879
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:33.039
get so paranoid that you're unable to function, that you're
880
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:38.239
unable to maneuver when you have to. So you know
881
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.039
that that would be my best advice for you know,
882
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.239
getting getting through these times. And and also I was
883
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.480
listening to Tino Struckman and Joseph Ferrell talking the other day,
884
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.320
and you know, Joseph have said something interesting. You know,
885
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.519
there's knowing what you're willing to kill for, but you
886
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:58.440
also got to know what you're willing to die for,
887
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.960
and that's in our times. That's part of the equation.
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01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.440
Is knowing where that line is.
889
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:14.320
Yeah, this is because good We're we're going to face
890
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.880
one of those tumultuous, politically tumultuous, you know times. There's
891
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.480
a lot of people that talk about this like they
892
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:22.840
like it. We've got too many people that have grown
893
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:26.599
up on dystopian movies and literature and TV and stuff,
894
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.159
and they have this romantic view of what that would
895
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.360
be like. You know, it's same with people that want
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01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:35.079
war that kind of thing. Well, I'll tell you what
897
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.400
a lot of those people, the first time they have
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01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.679
their as depicted in saving Private Ryan, their their realistic experience,
899
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.719
you know, the d DA Beach, they're not going to
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01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.320
think it's so romantic anymore when they see what it
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01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.840
what it really entails. And my point is sometimes those
902
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:57.159
fights have to be done, but just know, really know
903
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:03.599
what you're getting into. And it might be that, you know,
904
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.280
some desperate action is the only way we can stop
905
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:11.360
the tyrants. But we'll just have to see.
906
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.239
Yeah, we are in very fascinating times. Walter, Thank you
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01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.440
so much. This was great information. Before you go For
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01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:22.320
those that want to find out more about you and
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01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.079
pick up some books, what's the best way for them
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01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:25.360
to do.
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01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:30.639
So, go to Walter Bosley dot com. All my books
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01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.440
are there, including the new One Time Travel guide book,
913
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.679
which you guys might find real interesting and it's it's
914
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.760
you can have fun with it or you can try it,
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01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.719
you know. But Walter Bosley dot com is the place,
916
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.159
and I have a live stream every Wednesday at three
917
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:50.679
pm Pacific time, you know. Come check it out at
918
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.679
the Walter Bosley channel at youtubet.
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01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.199
Walter. Thank you so much. We'll definitely be doing this
920
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.280
again in the future. And until next time, everyone, have
921
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.559
a wonderful evening. We'll talk talk again tomorrow. We'll see
922
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:10.480
all then. Today my guest is Barry Lyttleton. He was
923
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.039
born awake with fragmented past life memories, and he began
924
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.960
having paranormal experiences at a very young age. These experiences
925
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:25.480
included telepathic awareness, seeing or feeling ghosts, and various inorganic beings.
926
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These encounters, and some of the entities themselves, had a
927
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distinct extraterrestrial origin. These unusual encounters led him to a
928
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lifetime of research and exploration into both the metaphysical and
929
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.360
paranormal fields. For the last twenty two years, he has
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worked with at risk youth and juvenile offenders. By utilizing
931
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the cognitive behavioral approach, he hopes to unite extraterrestrial contactes
932
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.960
with similar encounters interest and cross the racial color barrier
933
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:02.880
that seems to exist within the field. Since coming forward,
934
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he has had the pleasure of meeting awaken people from
935
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across the globe. Berry welcome back and how you doing.
936
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:12.639
I'm good, Chris, how are you doing. Thank you for
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01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:13.840
having me. I'm honored.
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Yeah, Matt, it's great to talk to you again. It's
939
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.000
been way too long. And man, I love having guests
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with experience like yourself, especially with such profound experiences, because
941
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:28.719
it gives the audience an inside look at what occurs
942
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:33.119
during some of these contact experiences. And over the past
943
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.800
couple of years, it seems as this topic has become
944
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.280
a lot more popular. And of course we're hearing about
945
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.880
UFOs from the media and Pentagon, which I personally believe
946
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.840
is a disinformation campaign of some sort, but that's a
947
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:51.679
completely different show. But I think it's I think it's
948
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.360
super important that we get the inside look from people
949
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.320
who have experience this phenomenon, because that's where we're going
950
01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.920
to get the truth from. That's where we're gonna find
951
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.440
doubt what is really going on with this from people
952
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:07.000
like yourself who've experienced it. Now, like I said, it's
953
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.920
been a while since we've had you on the other show,
954
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could you remind the audience a little bit about how
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this all started for you?
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Sure, I started having experiences when I was a kid,
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01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:22.119
I think is so common for a lot of people
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01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:26.880
that are contactes or experiencers. And that started with, you know,
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01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000
kind of waking up not in my bed and some
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01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:32.039
type of a room where we were doing things with
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01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.039
our mind and it was kind of like telepathic exercises
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01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:40.559
and psychokinetic exercises. And then not long after that, a
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year or two later, now I started getting visited by
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01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.559
this individual who I thought was a kid at first,
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01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:49.400
and then I started and then I saw him on
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01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.199
a craft in about the sixth grade. So this kind
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01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:55.920
of advanced, And especially when I say that, because it's
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the physical experiences and having meet somebody that has physical
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01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.280
like that, and then going on and graduated to what
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01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.639
I call adult adult onset experiences because I kind of
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had a laying time where not much happened between about
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the ages of thirteen to about seventeen, and then it
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01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.520
picked back up again and again these are physical encounters
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01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.880
I'm talking about. And then that went on for years
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01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:21.760
after that, and it kind of slowed down when I
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01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.119
was run around twenty eight thirty. And now it's like
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01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.399
more of a telethought communication. Now that goes on and
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01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.319
I'll always see craft or wake up on craft or
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01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.720
have them just zoom them up on me, and then
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01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.279
losing hours of time like what happened before. You know,
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it's one thing, you know, And that's why I say that.
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01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.479
I mean this no offense to anybody, but I know
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01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:46.159
CE five or whatever it's called, it's really big right now.
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Calling in craft and people will tell you that they're
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01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.720
all experts, and oh that's Pleadians. Those are Syrians, and
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01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:55.520
we don't really know who's on those craft. And be
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01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:59.960
very careful because when those craft come too close and sudden,
988
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.079
you're missing you know, hours of time, four or five
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01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:05.680
hours of your life, and you know you've been in
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01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.640
contact with something. You can still see it, you can
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01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.680
see the beings, you can see the technology, but the
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01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.920
longer year away from the event horizon, the more it
993
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.119
starts to fade, the retention of memory fades. I think
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01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:22.479
that's quite common amongst contact to these experiencers, and that's
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01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:24.479
why a lot of this occurs in the dream state
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01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.000
where we're halfway between them and us, where we can
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01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.720
have this this medium, I think, and then you don't
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01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:32.479
get as sick as I was in physical encounters because
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01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.520
it's a different environment on board that craft. So you know,
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01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.680
it's just food for thought if nothing else, you know
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01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:44.079
what I mean. But there's a definite difference there in
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01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:48.920
terms of astral experiences versus versus physical I'd had those two,
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01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.960
and I'm not discrediting anybody that has those because for
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01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.000
that reason, you won't get that sickness. You're in an
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01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:59.279
energy body. It doesn't conform to the same physical parameters
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01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.760
that this body. He does so physical laws that this
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01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.039
body does, So it's easier to meet them halfway, especially
1008
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.600
if you're dealing with beings for another galaxy or another
1009
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.840
universe or dimension. How much can they do a pattern
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01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.479
of unfoldment into the third dimension here to meet us.
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01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.199
So it takes some different things that start going on
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01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.039
on board some of these craft and something that leads
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01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:23.319
to what they have put in my mind. It's a
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01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:26.920
temple aphasia. It's a sickness that you I think I
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01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.439
talked about this last time we were on your other show.
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01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:32.760
It's a sickness that comes on the craft that it
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01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.079
feels like being on a Merry Go Round or maybe seasick,
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01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.279
but more than that, because it's hard to breathe in
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01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.680
there to a degree, it's a little slightly different. It
1020
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.319
smelled to me like wind decks most of these craft do,
1021
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.720
and in at least for me, they and then that
1022
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:48.439
kind of makes it hard. You're getting telepathy bombarded, and
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01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.439
that's because I was there physically, you know. But if
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01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.319
I say, like, for say, the first experience I had
1025
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.960
when I was seventeen, and I'm seeing other people on
1026
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.760
this deck of this craft and they're kind of translucent,
1027
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.039
like some of the beings themselves are translucent, which means
1028
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.159
they're in their dream body and they're going to the
1029
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:10.720
edge of this deck and touching the light that comes
1030
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.840
off this engine, the living light, you know what I mean.
1031
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:16.359
And that's a whole other thing we can go into
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01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.840
later about really what these engines are, how some of
1033
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.720
them were built over what we call makos or black holes,
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01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.119
and really what they are, at least the ones I've
1035
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:27.840
been on board. So I don't want to go too
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01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.079
far on any one side, but that's the way my
1037
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.399
experience has started. They started in childhood and they went
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01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.159
on into adulthood, and I spent a lifetime trying to
1039
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.800
understand them because they weren't negative. And I know right
1040
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.000
now a hot topic is people in the SSP and
1041
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:43.840
what's happened to them and have a lot of trauma
1042
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.479
going on there, and I feel for those people and
1043
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:48.680
I'm actually trying to communicate with more of them. But
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01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.880
my experiences weren't like that. They weren't government related, they
1045
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:56.239
weren't negative, they weren't sexual, they weren't attacks, nothing like that.
1046
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.079
I think I am a large part of the population
1047
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.960
that actually has had positive contact, but nobody's talking about it.
1048
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.920
That's just starting out people like you. So I'm honored
1049
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:06.319
to be here.
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01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.920
Yeah, definitely, and I'm glad that people like yourself are
1051
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:12.760
talking about these experiences.
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01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:13.000
Now.
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01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.279
It's important to get all sides, you know. I'm sure
1054
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.039
those negative experiences do occur, and they're very traumatic for
1055
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.880
the individuals like you're talking about in the secret space program.
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01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:25.920
But these amazing, beautiful experiences occur too. And I you know,
1057
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.199
since we had our conference that you you were a
1058
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.760
presenter at a couple of years ago, I had an
1059
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:36.039
experience myself which was a very profound and beautiful experience too.
1060
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:39.399
So yeah, it's it's all part of this, and I
1061
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:43.720
think it's very important. Now, when did you know? When
1062
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.000
did you come to an understanding this was extraterrestrials and
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01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.840
not something like you know. I mean, I think even
1064
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.640
though paranormal and ghosts are connected in some way to
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01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.920
this this phenomenon, I don't know if it's the exact
1066
01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.319
same thing, but when did you know that you were
1067
01:12:58.359 --> 01:12:59.880
dealing with maybe off planet.
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01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.640
Well, there's experience that happened, and it's on my YouTube
1069
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.399
channel too. Actually did a video over it, but it's
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01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.359
called I call it the acid Rain experience. I was
1071
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.560
in the sixth grade and I had woke up. But
1072
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.359
I don't sleep good, especially since those experiences since childhood.
1073
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.840
I don't stick very good. But I woke up on
1074
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.800
this craft and this is a physical craft. I'm on
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01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:25.039
board and there's like a monitor there and I'm on
1076
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.880
this deck and there's a being floating kind of over
1077
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:33.000
the deck plates to the right, and it's this being
1078
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.760
that had come to my It just interacted with me
1079
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:37.600
a few times when I was at my house playing.
1080
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:39.840
He'd come up and played with me, and he was
1081
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.119
seen by some other people. So that tells you kind
1082
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.359
of what these beings can do to us on the
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01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.880
conscious level optically, what they can do through our optic
1084
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.600
nerves and make themselves a fear a way that they
1085
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.199
may not be, not just virtual reality, but through the
1086
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.439
optical nerves. So it's a conscious deal, you know what
1087
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.960
I mean. Because I didn't pursue see for whatever reason,
1088
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:03.760
I didn't perceive him the same way that I did
1089
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:07.520
on this craft. This being floated floating over the deck
1090
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:11.239
plates wasn't in stctoid, and I wanted to be very
1091
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:17.840
specific about something. This was not a manted. Okay, the
1092
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.520
mantids are the things like that, and they're very commonly reported.
1093
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.640
This being looked more like a grasshopper with limbs that
1094
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:29.479
were a little bit more purported, were humanly purported, And
1095
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.760
it's a little bigger than I was. This being was
1096
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:35.479
than at that age then, So this was not your
1097
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:40.199
typical manted right and automatically. This being is giving me
1098
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:47.840
answers to my questions telepathically before I conformed them, and
1099
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.560
when I had encountered him before, like let's say, on
1100
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.000
the curve when I'm playing, he was talking telepathically too.
1101
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.439
When I didn't realize everybody, every kid couldn't do it,
1102
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.960
you know what I mean. I thought most just didn't.
1103
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.640
But he was telepathically communicating. But it was more normal,
1104
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.920
you know, back and forth, as opposed to on this craft.
1105
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.159
He was anticipating what I was about to ask and
1106
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.760
answering it before I could formulate the questions telepathically. That's
1107
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.079
a little disturbing, you know what I mean. But one
1108
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.279
of those questions is where are you from? What the
1109
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:26.800
hell do you want? I mean, let's keep it real, okay,
1110
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:31.520
because when you're in the presence of a non human okay, seriously,
1111
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.439
what is it like? There's a lot of nerves that
1112
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.680
go on fear, but there's something about the vibration that
1113
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.920
he was omitting that and also to somebody I knew
1114
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.199
that i'd played with, like let's say, outside of my
1115
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:45.439
front of my house and my brother's washing his car.
1116
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.920
I was trying to make these little mud dams on
1117
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.000
the curb to stuff the water from flowing, like it's
1118
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:54.399
gonna flood the world or something. And this individual came up,
1119
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:56.479
rode up on a bike and played with me and
1120
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.840
helped me make the dams, you know what I mean.
1121
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.880
And then for a little while my brother had seen him,
1122
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:03.880
you know, I wasn't unsupervised. And then he took off,
1123
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:05.479
and I'd ask, like, where are you from? You don't
1124
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.319
go to my school, you go to the other one
1125
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:10.039
over across the creek. And he's no, I'm just here
1126
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:14.000
a visiting family. He knows what he says telepathically. And
1127
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.560
this individual had on a hat and some odd like
1128
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:22.039
kitty cat sunglasses, so they looked he looked a little odd,
1129
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.359
especially now as an ADULTO will tell you somebody that
1130
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.960
is not around people a lot slightly off. But yet
1131
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.039
I wasn't perceiving him the way I perceived him on
1132
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:34.439
this craft as an insectoid, see what I mean, in
1133
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:39.560
this uniform, definitely uniform that felt ancient and more scientific.
1134
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:43.600
This persona felt you know. So my question was going
1135
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:46.439
to be where are you from? And he says, you
1136
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.760
want to understand now at that age, I thought I
1137
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:52.159
was very heavy because I was watching some Doctor Who
1138
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.399
and some Star Treks. I was like, oh, yeah, lay
1139
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.680
it on me. You know he says, go nine hundred
1140
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:04.000
million light years out beyond the exospace time continuum. Well
1141
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.600
that's right. I didn't know what that meant. So the
1142
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:10.880
next thing comes through is start you don't understand that,
1143
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:15.600
start with the third and fourth planets past Pluto their
1144
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.520
basis for us to jump off of to go into
1145
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:22.039
your solar system to deal with the density. And at
1146
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.159
that time, I'm thinking, you know, even prematurely, am I
1147
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.039
being deceived because that was a long time ago and
1148
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:31.399
there was no I don't even know if Cheron tiring
1149
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:35.359
the Pluto's moon have been found yet, so there was
1150
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.520
nothing else. Then go fast forward, I'm in my early
1151
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:42.920
thirties in my office and they find something called they
1152
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:48.359
discover something trans Neptunian Objects, which is another Kuiper belt
1153
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.960
just outside of Pluto there like expanding there, and they
1154
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.840
found several objects that are almost planetoids, and they've even
1155
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.439
named them. And I'm thinking, Lord, that's the exactly what
1156
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:01.800
individual was talking about. But anyway, going back to this
1157
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:06.479
this acid rain experience, all right, I can see through
1158
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:11.600
this this monitor several other craft, like two others, and
1159
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.119
it looks like they're sucking stuff up under them or something.
1160
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.439
It's like an odd light a meeting out of them too.
1161
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.520
And we're over this like what looked like a snow
1162
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.560
a snow cat was a snow snow snow range of
1163
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:26.920
some type mountain range unaware, you know what I mean.
1164
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:29.279
But I'm not seeing anything like that, so I thought
1165
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:31.920
it was quite beautiful. But these things are sucking that up.
1166
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:35.199
And he's telepathically telling me we're trying to battle and
1167
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:37.479
help with the acid rain. The acid rains are very
1168
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:40.880
bad for your planet. And then he also went into
1169
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.079
some of the metals that were in the atmosphere and
1170
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.439
reasons why that's one of the densities. They won't come
1171
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.960
out those craft too often, you know. So I'm picking
1172
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:53.920
that up quite a bit. And that fact microwaves and
1173
01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:57.199
metals in the atmosphere, I call it the eminem effect.
1174
01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.840
So that's what he was living to. But anyway, as
1175
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.560
I never heard of that, all right, And you know,
1176
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.439
it's so much this wondering what's going on and trying
1177
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:09.960
to make sure you're not being deceived. About a week
1178
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:15.840
later in class, I'm have. The teacher is sixth grade.
1179
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.920
The teacher had us read this thing called the Scholastic News,
1180
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:24.000
and each Friday, somebody, lucky person got to stand up
1181
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:26.479
there and read the main article. And this one I
1182
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.399
got SHOs And this one was about the Statue of Liberty.
1183
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.840
That year they had closed it down because they were
1184
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:37.279
at least parts of it anyway, because they were repainting
1185
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:41.399
it and repairing it from damaged caused by acid rain.
1186
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.119
And that's you know, when I heard that turn read,
1187
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.479
I remember screaming it out a little bit. Everybody laughed
1188
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:48.279
like it was a joke, but it was because it
1189
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.920
had crossed over from what to me were physical night
1190
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:56.479
experiences to my day life. Definitely. And there's no way
1191
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:58.319
I could prove any of that, but I mean, that's
1192
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.000
what happened. So that's the first thing that had told
1193
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:04.760
me that what I was experiencing was definitely real. You
1194
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.000
know what I mean, You think it is, but until
1195
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:12.600
certain things across into your daily consciousness and until you start,
1196
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:17.079
for me, scientific you know, discoveries, to start backing up
1197
01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:21.359
what I found out years ago as a kid, you
1198
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:22.960
know those things that you can't.
1199
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:26.279
Yeah, that's really interesting and I want to speak to you.
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01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.359
I want to speak to the telepathic communication. In my
1201
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.159
experience that I had, it was the same exact thing,
1202
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.600
like before I could even finish asking a question, the
1203
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.319
answer would be projected in my mind. It was like
1204
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:42.680
a kind of like a mix of image and emotion
1205
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.560
to portray language. And it was instantaneous, like before you know,
1206
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:49.840
before I could even finish the whatever I'm asking or communicating.
1207
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.279
And it was also associated by this beautiful feeling of
1208
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:57.159
like love and unconditional acceptance.
1209
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:57.960
And just it was.
1210
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.279
It was amazing. It was a great experience, and so
1211
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.800
I can I can definitely attest to that telepathic communication thing.
1212
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.880
It's it's it's wonderful. And I even told the being
1213
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:07.680
was like, this is a great way to communicate.
1214
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:12.520
Man. Yeah, you know, you know, you know when when
1215
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.760
when saying that and knowing that you've experienced that does
1216
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:20.199
doesn't make it kind of why, you know, somehow humanity
1217
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:24.039
doesn't exercise the communication of telepathy and it's dismissed as
1218
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:28.439
folklore because then we don't we can't hide stuff, you
1219
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:29.800
know what I mean. We're gonna be a living more
1220
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:35.439
like bulth kids. We're gonna be more logical. Man. That's
1221
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:37.319
cool though, you know, real quick. I don't want to
1222
01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:40.199
take us off subject or topic, but that that type
1223
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.319
of telepathy that comes through the star beings is so strong,
1224
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:44.600
you know what I mean, especially when you're in the
1225
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.359
presence of one. I've been in different ones, like the
1226
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:49.600
mother of the hybrids I called her. She was so
1227
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:53.680
telepathically strongly it seemed like she picked up my energy
1228
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.520
body and levitated it towards her as I'm there, like
1229
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:02.119
she by located me in her presence. That is serious consciousness. Man.
1230
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.760
I don't know anybody here that could do that, you know,
1231
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.960
but I think that's one thing that's really really important
1232
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.239
when dealing with that now, something that I'll just stow
1233
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.520
this in there. Right when I had went and spoke
1234
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:21.319
at that at SETI Ranch three years twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
1235
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:25.199
and twenty nineteen, and in twenty sixteen I had a
1236
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:28.119
major's experiences out there. I mean, I thought I was
1237
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:29.880
at a point in my life, not a young cat,
1238
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:33.279
that these things that just stopped my world, these experiences
1239
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.680
to stop my world. I thought they were past me
1240
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.199
until I went out there. You know, I got blasted.
1241
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.199
But one of them was the stosquatched thing or whatever's
1242
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.520
going on out there. Man. And one night I'm coming
1243
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:47.319
back and I can't sleep, so I go out about
1244
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:50.119
three am, and I watched the UFOs come off the
1245
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.000
mountain and everything, and then go back about sunset, which
1246
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.920
is right around four thirty up there, and then the
1247
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.600
feeling of being watched Chris from those trees out there.
1248
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:01.079
And I had to walk as this chicken coop to
1249
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:01.720
go down there.
1250
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:03.039
You know, I just had it.
1251
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:04.520
I turned off the light, I said, you know, I
1252
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.319
said to verbally, I threw it out telepathically. I said, look,
1253
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:09.520
I'm from the Midwest, and I said, I want to
1254
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.319
have these encounters. But the truth is that if one
1255
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:14.560
of you steps out of the trees on me and
1256
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:18.399
you're seven eight feet tall, it's gonna I'm gonna freak out.
1257
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:21.600
So just I'm freak that out, excuse me, So just
1258
01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.600
don't do it, all right? And I looked I looked
1259
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:26.680
like a total idiot that I was standing with the flashlight,
1260
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:30.560
you know, talking to myself and mentally doing it. So
1261
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.720
I go downstairs, sit in this yer, this cabin, and
1262
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.199
I'm sitting on the edge of this cabin maybe five
1263
01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:39.560
minutes later before I can fall asleep, I get hit
1264
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:44.479
with this telethought and Chris, it's so strong, and it's
1265
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.279
things saying it's coming with. I'm getting words one thing,
1266
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:53.960
English words, but also the pictures the telethought, and I'm
1267
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.520
getting things like it's illegal for y'all to be seen
1268
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.720
by us anyway, so don't worry about that. And their
1269
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:03.680
name was Elder, and I don't have a limp, and
1270
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:08.600
I'm getting pictured in my mind a sasquatch, like eleven
1271
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.800
foot albino sasquatch doing a backflip like David Lee Roth
1272
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.199
in the Jump video. In the video at the very
1273
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.000
end of that video, he just does a backflip for
1274
01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.239
no reason, like a digit or something. Yeah, it was
1275
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:22.279
like a backflip like that. And that sounds so ridiculous
1276
01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:23.800
to me telling you that, but I swear that's what
1277
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:29.640
I got. And then several things were relayed quickly, and
1278
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.039
then the channel was cut off and I'm sitting on
1279
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.600
the edge of my bed there trying to trying to
1280
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.119
force myself through like a Tomorrow person or something, and
1281
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.439
you know, it didn't work. Whatever that was, it was
1282
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:46.960
a much stronger telepath than I It certainly didn't feel
1283
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:50.039
like an ape. Okay, I've been to the zoo. There's
1284
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:55.239
no telepathic communication from the gorillas there. They're cool to observe.
1285
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:58.279
But this was something else. Do I know it was sasquatch. No,
1286
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:03.359
but if not, it's connecting yourself with that phenomenon definitely,
1287
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:04.479
And I'll leave it there.
1288
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:08.680
Oh man, you actually brought up something super interesting because
1289
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.560
I've been kind of looking into sasquatching bigfoot and having
1290
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.239
guests on that are Sasquatch bigfoot researchers, and this is
1291
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:18.960
so fascinating because this is not, like you said, just
1292
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:22.279
some probably lost hominid or something like that. This is
1293
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:26.039
something much more. These beings have capabilities that we can't
1294
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:29.680
even imagine, according to some of the testimony and stories
1295
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.520
that I've heard from some of these researchers, and highly
1296
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:37.880
highly intelligent, like something extraterrestrial maybe possibly, or something that's
1297
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:41.319
been here the whole time that has, you know, had
1298
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.359
high intelligence or advanced capabilities that we just don't understand.
1299
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:49.039
I don't know, you know, I just did an interview
1300
01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:52.760
with a lady named Jessica Jones. She's really cool, and
1301
01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.199
I met her at this conference I did about a
1302
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.000
year ago the STARC conference. I think that's where I
1303
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.640
met you, but it wasn't. Sorry, but she's a researcher
1304
01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:03.600
on like three different teams and she goes out there.
1305
01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:06.439
They got equipment and they go, you know, on site
1306
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.199
to these places and just do all this field of investigation.
1307
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.039
And I had mentioned something she took interest in, that
1308
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:19.680
Fred Beck, the Ape Canyon, the Ape Canyon encounter where
1309
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.880
they're throwing the sasquatch or throwing the rocks at the
1310
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:24.239
cabin and everything. You know, we're left to think that
1311
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:27.359
that's kind of just all that was. But the truth
1312
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.640
is that guy fred Beck that shot one had talked,
1313
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:32.520
he read, He wrote a quick book that's like The
1314
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:38.399
I Fought the Eight Men of Mount Saint Helens is
1315
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:40.279
the name of it, and it's a very quick, little
1316
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:44.760
little pamphlet. But you know, he called them manifested beings.
1317
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.279
He said that there was a very definitely spiritual factor
1318
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.720
to the paranormal factor to them. Everybody involved in that thought, well,
1319
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.319
I thought that they would never shoot one, they'll never
1320
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:59.359
catch one or anything like that, because they're manifested beings.
1321
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.520
Some of these tracks just disappear in the middle fields.
1322
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.800
And to go seem to go from nowhere fascinating, you
1323
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.159
know what I mean, And just the thought of manifesting
1324
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.800
beings that they can actually when they're in the presence
1325
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:16.680
of the morphrginic field of people. Then they become third dimensional.
1326
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:20.600
They start manifesting, and during that time they have to
1327
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:25.600
actually conform to all physical parameters that would be living, scat, eating,
1328
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.840
all the things we do until whatever happens they get
1329
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:32.000
more away from people or people, aren't there something that
1330
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:36.760
they become non physical again, it's just fascinating. If nothing else,
1331
01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:39.399
it's tough for the mind because there's something going on
1332
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.560
there and we can't just come from the the ape camp.
1333
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:45.760
But there's so many different types of Sasquatch. I don't
1334
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.000
know where that begins and ends, you know, food for
1335
01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.439
thought of nothing else for sure.
1336
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:53.119
And along those same lines of these mixing of phenomenon,
1337
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.920
you look at places like skin Walk or Ranch now
1338
01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.800
they have this the meadow place, even you know Mount Shasta,
1339
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:04.880
like Gillian's Ranch, like you were talking about. All these
1340
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:11.560
different places are just like hubs of paranormal activity and
1341
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.520
extraterrestrial phenomenon. And it makes me wonder if it's the
1342
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.680
energy in the area, or if they're attracted to something,
1343
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.359
or if there's something else going on that causes this
1344
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:25.439
concentration of activity there.
1345
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.159
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Boy, you're
1346
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.640
taking this a different way. Help cool man, Okay? So
1347
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:33.239
I got so blown away the first year I spoke
1348
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.960
out there, in twenty sixteen. Before I went in twenty seventeen,
1349
01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:40.920
I did a professional regression for strictly what happened to
1350
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.079
me out there. I had to know more what I
1351
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:48.279
was dealing with, all right, And something I saw in
1352
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.319
this regression was this, I had a feeling I had
1353
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:53.479
been in the mountain a little. I slept like I
1354
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.920
was inside that mountain or something. So I during the
1355
01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:03.199
regression I described this the this crystalline mercabah type of
1356
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:11.560
device inside that mountain that's actually scanning people's life memories
1357
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.760
like this life and then it will produce an orb
1358
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.399
of some type that gets in your energy field and
1359
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:22.159
does something to take your consciousness forward. And that's results
1360
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.960
in people seeing sasquatch out there disappearing in the field.
1361
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:27.960
How many times have you heard that, you know what,
1362
01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:32.159
especially at that place, or seeing certain UFOs or things
1363
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.600
like that. I think that's what. There's everybody that has
1364
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:37.560
something happen to them, you know, they have something happened
1365
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.600
and it takes their consciousness forward. So okay, fast forward
1366
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.560
that two years from this, and this just before I
1367
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.479
met him as a gentleman, John Ravinko, that did a
1368
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:52.760
video called remote Viewing the Ancient Aliens of the Asseti Ranch.
1369
01:29:53.880 --> 01:30:00.680
And during this video, his team described this device inside
1370
01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:04.880
the mountainous crystalline device what I had seen two years previous.
1371
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.760
So I couldn't wait to meet him and discuss that
1372
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:11.000
and condensing this for people quickly and probably get off
1373
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:14.960
this topic. But there is a book called The Keys
1374
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:18.479
of Enoch by JJ Hirtok and I did a video
1375
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:20.800
about this while I was out on the ranch with
1376
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:25.079
John Ravinco and it's on my YouTube channel under playlist
1377
01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:27.800
as Seti Ranch. It's a video. We're sitting on the
1378
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.840
couch talking. But there's a book called the Keys of
1379
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:34.560
Enoch by JJ Hirtalk and in that book there is
1380
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:45.479
a device they described called and U or sorry sorry
1381
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:48.760
losing the name of right now, or station sorry forgive
1382
01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:52.680
me sorry or station o R station after group rhetoric
1383
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:56.359
group called the benign or I believe. But anyway, they
1384
01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:59.000
described this device, and they even in the back of
1385
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:00.800
that book in the glass they have it. You can
1386
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:03.760
look it up there. I given that video the number
1387
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.960
the pages it's on, and they actually show this device.
1388
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:09.800
They've got a schematic of it on there or just
1389
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.880
an illustration, and they say what it does and how
1390
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:17.000
it does it, and that's fascinating. So that taking a
1391
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.159
step forward, all right? That year, on twenty nineteen, I
1392
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.199
went out there. It was different. We had to lead SkyWatch.
1393
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.680
All right, where's that twenty seventeen one of those? Either way,
1394
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.640
you had to lead a SkyWatch. Look, no offense to anybody,
1395
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.920
It's just not my thing because when the ships come
1396
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.760
too close and you lose time, it's hard to suddenly
1397
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:39.640
blend back into society. It f's with your life, I'm sorry,
1398
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:42.600
messes with your life, your life, you know. So I
1399
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:44.239
get a little bit nervous, you know. But this this
1400
01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.680
deal here, what I did was since I had to
1401
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:53.560
lead one fun fun first ever, but I did an experience.
1402
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:59.159
I did a pineal gland exercise to some partiyama. And
1403
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:01.279
it's a good one, right, the most powerful one I've
1404
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:03.920
ever used. And what's cool is You've got about one
1405
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.039
hundred people there in the room, you know that are
1406
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.119
all A lot of them are psychics, mediums at these
1407
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:12.720
at these conventions, the attendees are really the special people.
1408
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:14.960
But they all do this. Once I got over the
1409
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:17.279
how weird this looks, and do it and have everybody
1410
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:22.119
do it. So many people, Chris start saying the same thing,
1411
01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:26.520
especially the strongest psychics of the room. You're saying, I'm
1412
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:29.880
seeing this grid. I'm seeing a grid looks like a
1413
01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:33.640
tictap toe board. Several of them kept saying it, and
1414
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:38.039
immediately I knew it's this device. It's this device scanning
1415
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:42.119
people whatever. How more the radius of it is, you know,
1416
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.199
and just anyway, I'll leave that alone. Just anybody look
1417
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.079
on my channel, look at that video and that order station.
1418
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:50.640
And the thing is, I think certain people like us
1419
01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:55.880
with certain DNA, certain energy, certain blood whatever, man, you know,
1420
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:01.159
it actually opens these these it activates these device and
1421
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:03.760
consciously I leave. That's what happens. And you know, it's
1422
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.319
a matter of how many of these devices, because I
1423
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:08.319
think they're from when we were a type one civilization,
1424
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.520
Type two, even in the past Earth was that was here.
1425
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:14.239
We still have many things that these devices, how many
1426
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.520
of them on Earth are still functioning. Maybe there's one
1427
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.000
at Caligash, maybe there's one at Mount Shasta, you know,
1428
01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:24.279
I mean, I don't know, food for thought, nothing that
1429
01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:24.840
is so.
1430
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.359
And that kind of kind of leads me to think
1431
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:32.119
about a conversation that I was having with a couple
1432
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:36.399
of other UFO researchers in the past month about the
1433
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:40.600
possibility of what kind of energy these craft are using
1434
01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:44.560
and the effects it has on the environment of wherever
1435
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:49.159
it's landing. Like, I heard a story of a man
1436
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:53.760
who had a farm and he'd have craft land near
1437
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.520
his form. Often he'd see them, they'd be you know,
1438
01:33:56.640 --> 01:34:00.520
they'd actually mess with or mutilate his cattle. But when
1439
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:04.479
they'd be appearing, he'd also have strange paranormal activity start
1440
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.800
happening in his house. He'd have like poltergeist and stuff.
1441
01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:10.520
And then whenever they they'd leave, this this kind of
1442
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.119
energy residue would stay around for a few days and
1443
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:16.319
then go back to normal, which I find very interesting
1444
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:18.840
those kind of connections. Any thoughts on that.
1445
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.880
Yeah, you know, the energy that I've seen on boarder craft,
1446
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:26.159
they've called it a few things. One of them is
1447
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.560
they've called it living light. They've called it a g
1448
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:32.479
l E before, and it's normally a gold and a
1449
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:37.439
deep golden color that I've seen, and it is life energy.
1450
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.800
And when I say that it's the same as Prana
1451
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:45.359
t oregone, it's it's all the same, but it's it's
1452
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:49.439
some type of a creator consciousness that they've been able
1453
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:52.760
to polarize and use as energy. And it's in a
1454
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:55.520
light form that that I can say, and I've seen
1455
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.319
that this is I can only speak Chris for the
1456
01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.159
craft I've been on board, okay, but that's something I've
1457
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.479
seen being used by several engines. One of the engines
1458
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:06.359
I've seen it looked like what's called now a bucket
1459
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:11.920
ball or a like a gyrosphere, and it had, you know,
1460
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.640
and it made me kind of going into the honeycomb conjecture.
1461
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.479
Why did why did the why do the bees use
1462
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:21.000
that that hexagon to store energy? You know? And this
1463
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.520
is way before, this is what happened to me. Then again,
1464
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.039
you know, when I was a teenager, I saw this
1465
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:29.039
and so it's something that you know, it never went away,
1466
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.119
but now I know that what that is is one
1467
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:34.560
form or sometimes you see these cubes that are on
1468
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.079
these craft also, and it becomes if you're dealing really
1469
01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:43.199
truly with beings from another universe, entities from another universe
1470
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:45.840
that are coming through, okay, that you're dealing with not
1471
01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.840
just another galaxy, not just pleades from another universe. And
1472
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:54.159
this universe is built on the spin, is based on
1473
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:57.520
the spin. All the way from our basic atoms all
1474
01:35:57.560 --> 01:36:00.079
the way to the galaxies are on the spin in
1475
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.119
the spiral. That's one of the main ways this universe
1476
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:05.840
is formed. So a different universe, what if they're using
1477
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:09.439
something like the score is based on the cube or
1478
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.920
the pyramid, or amorphous metals or something like that, So
1479
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.199
then they have to come through a pattern of unfullman
1480
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.079
to deal with us here, okay, and what shapes can
1481
01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:25.039
they use that could transfer this like life energy, this
1482
01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.960
this this, this this living light from one universe to
1483
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:33.560
the other. These these these cubes are one the way
1484
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.079
the other one. I just described this, this buckety ball
1485
01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:38.279
that was in this type of a I called it
1486
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:40.199
an engine, but the truth is I think it's more
1487
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:44.359
of a brain in reality, you know, brain energy source.
1488
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:46.359
And that's also why a lot of these crafts, a
1489
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:48.880
lot of us have been on email has been involved
1490
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.680
in this too, that the craft, the crew themselves are
1491
01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:56.439
giving a symbiotic connection with like their product and their
1492
01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.279
energy to actually power the ship. So they're not just
1493
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.399
crew members, are not just navigators, their power sources, you
1494
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:07.279
know what I mean. It's fascinating in space itself. It's
1495
01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:09.640
all just not what we're thinking, you know. I had
1496
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:13.319
to re understand exactly what I was seeing when they're
1497
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.840
saying that this engine was grown over a black hole.
1498
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.560
That led me to dealing with gentlemen by the day
1499
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:24.880
with the name of Rudy Shields have taken an interest
1500
01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:28.000
in my experiences and we started communicating quite a bit,
1501
01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:33.279
and he especially had taken interest in the other universal
1502
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.479
aspect of what I was kind of dealing with, you know.
1503
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:39.520
But he has a new black hole theory, and that's
1504
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.800
based on all the data collected from the observatories that
1505
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:47.079
he dealt with, and he calls them makos magnetically eternally
1506
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:52.760
collapsing objects, and how actually the mako is inside of
1507
01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:55.960
the black hole itself, but that's a mechanism that actually
1508
01:37:56.039 --> 01:38:00.520
stores the information and how actually all the information of
1509
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.039
the universe wraps around what looks like they're crashing disc
1510
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.039
but it actually wraps around that mako and that is
1511
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:10.159
what we would call the Acastak records. That's the record
1512
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:12.239
of space and time. We've heard that so often, a
1513
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.720
cast records. I mean, everybody as accessing it now and
1514
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.439
teaching other people to do it and YadA YadA, But truly,
1515
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:22.640
what is it? You know? So really, these black holes
1516
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:26.359
are the hard drives of the universe. They're not just
1517
01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:29.039
you know, they're not just these holes that suck everything
1518
01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.399
in like the movie when I was a kid, the
1519
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:34.279
black Cold. Everything sucks into it crushes it. And that
1520
01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:36.239
made so a lot of what we've heard about them
1521
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:39.920
theoretically is not true compared to the data, you know,
1522
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:43.760
and that's important, you know, very important. So these makos
1523
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:47.600
is something completely different. And when dealing with like especially
1524
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:50.439
if you have a civilization Chris that might not even
1525
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:55.439
exist anymore, they can still exist within that mako, the
1526
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.520
Acastak records and able to communicate with us through our
1527
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:04.239
brain and that's that that's heavy and our brains quickly.
1528
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:09.199
There's there's something something in these black holes. What's been
1529
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.760
shown is that they operate more similar to the way
1530
01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:18.680
our mirror neurons do, okay, and uh, mirror neurons are
1531
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:22.520
We've got these fibers that make up our entire body.
1532
01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:25.159
Oh lord, that's the name of it now. Anyway, they
1533
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:28.359
make up our entire body, but they make up our brain.
1534
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:32.760
And then they construct micro marcrotubules, sorry marcrotubules, and the
1535
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:39.920
brain microtubules occur two waves concentrically or helical. Okay, and
1536
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:44.279
that's this universe, all right. So they respond to conscious
1537
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:49.760
waves and there's conscious waves brain waves like mirror waves
1538
01:39:50.159 --> 01:39:53.159
mirror neurons. Is the way these black holes are functioning.
1539
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:55.319
And when I say that, and I talked about the
1540
01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.279
copy that's made what they call the quantum hologram. Also
1541
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.600
everything that goes through who the black hole or goes
1542
01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.319
into it is actually the copies made on the surface
1543
01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:07.680
of it. That's that of cassic records. That's the quantum hologram.
1544
01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.279
That's that's all that. So that's that's kind of where
1545
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:15.079
that's that's coming from. So that way the way black
1546
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.880
holes will be able to be accessed is consciously. You
1547
01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:22.359
wouldn't think that brain science would in any way connect
1548
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:26.520
to how black holes function what, but that's what the
1549
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.159
data is showing, and mirror neurons is me talking to
1550
01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:32.760
you now, talking to the people. They're able to see
1551
01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.560
the experiences that I'm talking about. That's what the mirror
1552
01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:40.279
neuron network does. It's also connected to the grab reflex deal.
1553
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:45.199
But also that's how these these black holes are hard
1554
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:49.439
drives of the universe. Yeah, it's pretty heavy like that.
1555
01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.479
That's a lot. We could go many different directions here,
1556
01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:58.399
but I want to get your take on space because
1557
01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:03.000
I've had I've had a few shows lately where my
1558
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:07.279
guests are questioning what space is, and I have this
1559
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:09.479
deep gut feeling that, of course, we've been lied to
1560
01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:12.000
a lot, a lot of things, almost everything that you
1561
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.239
know in our existence really if you look at some
1562
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.760
of the things that have come to light lately. But
1563
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:21.479
when it comes to outer space and our ability to
1564
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.199
traverse to space or to the Moon like we supposedly have,
1565
01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:30.279
doesn't seem like traditional rocketry would do it, especially from
1566
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.560
the images that we're getting from NASA. You know, some
1567
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:35.680
of these things lunar landers covered and look looks like tinfoil,
1568
01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:39.119
and you know, some of the footage is just so questionably,
1569
01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:42.640
you know, ridiculous. I don't know so I'd like to
1570
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:44.760
get your take on what's going on there. Do you
1571
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:49.000
think we have actually been doing what NASA says we're doing.
1572
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:51.920
Are we doing it a little differently maybe with our
1573
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:53.119
secret space program.
1574
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:56.079
I think it's both. I think the NASA is a
1575
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:59.119
front for all that stuff and what they've done, you know,
1576
01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:01.439
even like what if you go look at some of
1577
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:03.319
the stuff, like I think the Jim's name is Ralph
1578
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:06.479
Ring and some of the stuff that they were proposing
1579
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.039
a long time ago, even got patents for such a
1580
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:12.039
long time ago, and dealing with not just anti gravity
1581
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:16.760
but gravity modificate modification. That's you know, slightly different, but
1582
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.319
that's that's very serious. What happened to that? Where does
1583
01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.000
the next step from that? You know, actual scientists that
1584
01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.520
are actually dealing with real warp drives right now, you know,
1585
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.119
and that actually some of the theories behind that. And
1586
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.720
it's recently talking about space a little you know, recently
1587
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:34.239
did a video on this too, and it's information that
1588
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:37.159
comes to me sometimes these beings. It's dealing with what
1589
01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:40.920
it's called fermi bubbles, which weren't discovered all that long ago,
1590
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:45.279
but you know, that's a gamma ray bubble that is
1591
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.880
over every galaxy, including the Milky Way, and they're all
1592
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:53.600
connected in terms of right now, we have a lot
1593
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.520
of gamma radiation this galaxy from other galaxies. But if
1594
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:00.279
you're dealing with an advanced type you know, for Type
1595
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:04.640
five civilization, that's dealing with something like the fungus I
1596
01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:09.199
mentioned before, the radiotropic fungus that grew on the walls
1597
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:13.039
of Chernobyl and also Fukushima. It's a black fungus that
1598
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:15.279
actually had the robot scrape it off. And what it
1599
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:19.680
does is uses its pure melanin to convert the gamma
1600
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:23.239
radiation into the gross cycle. And that's what Luke Frigno
1601
01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:25.439
and Bill Bixby were doing. That's what the ault does.
1602
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:28.880
Sorry I to throw a joke in there, but seriously,
1603
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:33.960
it does convert gamma radiation into the gross cycle. And
1604
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:36.880
you know, I've heard people that are talking about melanin
1605
01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:42.199
dominexterrestrials saying that perhaps a Type five civilization had sent
1606
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.840
that here as help with the radiation cleanup on this planet.
1607
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:49.239
And we get more help than we think. And that's
1608
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:52.239
the last thing. When you start looking into fungal fungus,
1609
01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.600
it's many ways shown as like McKinnon. Other people can
1610
01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:02.640
traverse interstellar space immune to solar radiation. Several types are
1611
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.560
So if you're going to send a probe to another planet,
1612
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:08.760
like a Bracewell probe, you know what I mean, that
1613
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:12.399
it makes contact like two thousand and one, something like that,
1614
01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:16.800
and looking scientifically at what's been developed, like the theory
1615
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:19.960
of I don't want to mispronounce this gentleman's name alque
1616
01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:24.319
Berry warp drive, which the deals with pulling a bubble
1617
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:27.680
over the craft and stretching it and pulling the craft
1618
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.279
towards it. It's slightly different, but it's a different way
1619
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:33.039
of warp theory. Now, if you were going to take
1620
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:38.960
something like spores fungal and take them get them somewhere else,
1621
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:42.520
wouldn't that be a great way to use Alcaberry warp
1622
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:46.000
drive through these ferming bubbles. But you see, we don't
1623
01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:49.920
think about how a lot of civilizations might actually exist
1624
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:57.920
in space, especially on the organic aspect, and it's different,
1625
01:44:58.000 --> 01:44:59.960
you know what I mean. Everything I've been on board
1626
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.840
was organic to a nature of these craft, not fully,
1627
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:06.239
but they're very sentient to a part. A point Chris,
1628
01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:11.039
that I underestimated how sentient these craft actually were. You know,
1629
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:14.279
I'm walking around on there unescorted. I mean, I was
1630
01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:15.920
so sick that I'm not going to be much of
1631
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:18.479
a threat to anybody anyway. But it's not even about that.
1632
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:23.479
But the ship knows you, knows your intent, and I
1633
01:45:23.560 --> 01:45:28.039
think it knows you're not just soul life memories. I'm sorry,
1634
01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:30.600
your soul life memories, not just life memories. Your soul
1635
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.840
life memories, which we don't have access to for the
1636
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:38.079
most part, is really hard. I say this without going
1637
01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:40.560
too far, and this will deal with your space deal. Also,
1638
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:45.239
one of my experiences that I've talked about is this craft.
1639
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:48.079
It seemed like a pure conscious craft at first until
1640
01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:52.920
its unfoldment became fully physical. And one of the rooms
1641
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.560
on this craft, it was full of these little wormhole
1642
01:45:57.680 --> 01:46:00.920
thing So we're opening and closing really quick, and they're
1643
01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:02.479
all over the place in there, Chris, I mean, there
1644
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.960
must have been probably twenty of them. And I have
1645
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:07.520
this light being a ball of light that jumps in
1646
01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:13.079
front of me, starts unfolding like a sunflower, and jumps
1647
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:15.720
into one of these wormholes and comes out of another one.
1648
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.119
I'm talking about a millisecond, and I'm picking up that
1649
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.720
we're like fish out of water in your dimension and
1650
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:26.560
in your in your density density a lot in your density,
1651
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.840
we're like fish out of water. We have to be careful,
1652
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.199
you know, things like that. And before when I would
1653
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.520
be out, like doing exercises late at night, the Gate
1654
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:37.520
of Power and stuff like that, trying these night exercises,
1655
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:41.079
I would see these blue flashes and these lights and
1656
01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:43.600
I never thought in a million years that those could
1657
01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:49.000
possibly be non corporeal extraterrestrials. Never, but they're going in
1658
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:51.319
those wormholes just like that. That might have been very
1659
01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.960
well what I was seeing. Anyway, this this room, okay,
1660
01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:57.960
and this is something that Rudy Shields had forced me
1661
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:01.119
to accept mathematically through it all up, he said that
1662
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:03.039
this was a craft and it makes sense that it's
1663
01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:08.720
actually dealing with the path of most coherency to another universe,
1664
01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:13.960
and that was the center for that. And he's kept
1665
01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:15.840
asking them, any of them, could you know, were any
1666
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:18.279
of them stable used And it didn't seem like to me.
1667
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:21.640
It seemed like many wormholes that aren't supposed to be stable.
1668
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:24.479
They're moving around, you know, And he's saying, yeah, but
1669
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:27.279
that ship is able to choose that which one it needs.
1670
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:31.159
And that's dealing with the universal aspect. And I had
1671
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:32.399
to deal with that because I can want to say, no,
1672
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:35.039
it's just another galaxy, but no, it's a universal thing.
1673
01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:36.520
So anyway else set up?
1674
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:37.720
No, man, that was great?
1675
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:40.520
Does that make sense? It was like being too weird,
1676
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:41.840
not making sense.
1677
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.239
It makes sense and it goes deep. But I think
1678
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.319
that it makes a lot of sense, and it gives
1679
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:51.039
a better understanding of what could possibly be going on
1680
01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:55.039
with these technology and the ships. And what I want
1681
01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:58.600
to get into right now is what is their interest
1682
01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:02.920
in us? You know, these type possibly five civilizations, super
1683
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:07.199
highly advanced. What are they doing with us? Why are
1684
01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:10.119
they interacting with us? You know, it seems like we
1685
01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:14.640
could possibly be a part of an experiment. We could
1686
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:19.279
be a creation of theirs, maybe some of these species.
1687
01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:19.920
I don't know.
1688
01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:23.159
What do you think the interest or relationship with these
1689
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:24.119
these entities are.
1690
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:27.800
You know, the first thing is I think you have
1691
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:31.199
such a multitude of entities that are interested in this
1692
01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:34.960
place and interacting with it, and the ones that seem
1693
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:39.079
to get the main cream of the crop any attention
1694
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.239
is the negatives. I mean, for a long time when
1695
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:44.439
I was trying to, you know, find other things in
1696
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.680
the media way before ever came forward, you know, as
1697
01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:48.960
a kid trying to figure out other people are having
1698
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:52.079
experiences like mine. I was never seeing these beings. I
1699
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.680
was never hearing these type of experiences. I was seeing
1700
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:58.000
tons of stuff about grays, and then later on I've
1701
01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:00.239
never seen and then later on a bunch of stuff
1702
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:03.119
about reptilians, you know, and they're very interested in this
1703
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:05.359
place and said, look at all these people that have
1704
01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:08.760
been assaulted in their experiences and had this horrible trauma
1705
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:13.760
associated associated excuse me, associated with their experience, and there's
1706
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:16.680
a lot of people, you know. I was so shocked
1707
01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:19.960
to see in the Free Foundation, what is it called
1708
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:25.199
CCRA contact modalities when they did that survey, how many,
1709
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:27.720
like out of twenty twenty five hundred I took that
1710
01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:33.720
survey contact the experiencers said they have positive contact opposed
1711
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.479
to negative. You expect to see something was so skewed
1712
01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.840
towards the positive. It was unreal. I was shocked, you know,
1713
01:49:39.880 --> 01:49:41.520
because that's not what we hear about in the media.
1714
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.159
So I think it depends on the beings. Like for
1715
01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:47.199
the example, the ones I'm being dealing with, there seem
1716
01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:50.159
to be more interested in. One is we don't have
1717
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:54.199
access to our soul life memories here. It's an issue,
1718
01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:58.359
and we're immortal souls to a degree with a lot
1719
01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:03.640
of sole life. Experience says, that's like going from kindergarten
1720
01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:07.520
to twelfth grade. You're graduating, but you can't remember kindergarten
1721
01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:10.600
to eleventh grade. Kind of crap? Is that? I mean,
1722
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:12.199
that's what this place is like. We don't have any
1723
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:15.479
access to our soul life memories. It's easy to get
1724
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.439
caught up in a cycle of reincarnation here. You know,
1725
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.079
my work has taken me into really dealing with earth
1726
01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:24.239
bound spirits a lot and helping them cross over. The
1727
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:26.840
ones that are attached to people that you don't pick
1728
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.800
up on even as a medium. You know they're entwined
1729
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:33.239
in the person's behavior pattern. That's serious and I had
1730
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:35.119
no idea that it was that. I can tell you
1731
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:40.600
now in my opinion through experience. I think the earth
1732
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:45.319
bound spirit population, like the Patrick Swayze's walking around and
1733
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:48.640
that movie Ghosts, is just as numerous as the living
1734
01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:53.600
and that is a real issue here. So remembering who
1735
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:56.199
we are the other places we may have been lineage
1736
01:50:56.279 --> 01:50:59.680
wise is not even accessible to us. That's a problem
1737
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.039
for them those of us that are having positive encounters,
1738
01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:04.319
so a lot of it. And if we've once been
1739
01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:08.800
like okay, go geek on you man, like Star Trek. Wise,
1740
01:51:09.159 --> 01:51:11.439
if we were once part of the federation or everybody
1741
01:51:11.479 --> 01:51:14.279
talks about that, a galactic federation cats idea what they'll
1742
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:20.560
call themselves that But let's say, you know, whatever those
1743
01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:23.119
that do. You know, I'm not saying no problem with it,
1744
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:26.560
but if we're once part of this federation or any
1745
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:29.439
federation like that, this would have been a place of
1746
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:32.640
galactic trade where you might go outside and go down
1747
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:34.640
to your city building and see a couple of non
1748
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:38.800
corporeal beings flowing around or doing like sermons or things
1749
01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:42.159
like that. It's not like that anymore. When these actually
1750
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:44.640
technologies that were still wondering how they got here, like
1751
01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:47.680
the order station we just talked about, or the pyramids,
1752
01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:50.000
any of these things that show this was once a
1753
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:52.960
type one civilization. I think we're trying to go back
1754
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:54.680
to that, and that's the one thing that Star Trek
1755
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.640
may represent, is we start getting back into part of
1756
01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:00.840
the galactic trade and being part of that. So that's
1757
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.399
an interest to some of these beings too, you know,
1758
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:07.880
soul life memories, the planet itself, because I asked, I
1759
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:10.279
asked these beings I was dealing with, and they had
1760
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:12.680
told me that the Earth won't what they had said,
1761
01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.239
the Earth won't be destroyed again. And they're sitting me
1762
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:19.439
visions of the Earth going around in the sun looking
1763
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.439
like a burned up ash kind of. They said, that
1764
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:25.199
will never happen again, and we don't know how old
1765
01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:27.760
the Earth truly is and what has truly been through.
1766
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:34.359
You know, if you're a fan of doctor who like myself,
1767
01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:37.760
there's one doctor that sticks out for me. The favorite
1768
01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.079
for me when I grew up was Todd Baker. But
1769
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.840
you know, the second one he did was called Arc
1770
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.399
in the Space and it was about they landed on
1771
01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:50.560
the space station that was the reservoir, the reserve of
1772
01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:54.800
humanity was to sleep there in Cyber. It's sorta seller's
1773
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:59.680
suspension because there was a solar flare that destroyed Earth,
1774
01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:04.720
not destroy it, but just made it unadmitable for you know,
1775
01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:07.319
I don't know a million years or whatever, and it's
1776
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:09.960
just very interesting. And they talked about trying to repopulate
1777
01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.640
the Earth. I think something similar to that has happened before.
1778
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:15.600
It's sight differently, but I mean there's been a destruction here.
1779
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.720
So the beings I've dealt with are much more interested
1780
01:53:18.880 --> 01:53:21.720
in the earth. Before I set this up. One of
1781
01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:25.520
the beings, I got so many responses on the interviews
1782
01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:28.439
I've done and at conferences from this being in particular.
1783
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:30.399
Most of them don't have names. This one gave me
1784
01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:34.039
a name, Mana was his name. Very tall being and
1785
01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:37.199
it looked like it had a brain on the outside.
1786
01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:42.840
And I know now it looks like brain coral and
1787
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:44.880
you know, and I wonder sometimes why some of these
1788
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:48.680
beings will come forward when I was younger or you know,
1789
01:53:49.479 --> 01:53:52.199
in of young adult years, and then suddenly they back off.
1790
01:53:52.840 --> 01:53:55.720
Others may come forward, they back off, Well why what
1791
01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:58.680
is it? You know? And I'm waking up thinking about this, Chris,
1792
01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:00.560
And this is you know, before before I went to
1793
01:54:01.239 --> 01:54:03.439
Australia and sold what a problem they're having with it
1794
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:07.960
bleach coral, bleaching coral. I can work at bleaching coral.
1795
01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:10.720
It's in my mind what I started looking at that
1796
01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:14.279
and what's really happened to the coral reef? And this
1797
01:54:14.439 --> 01:54:16.319
being is somehow connected to that, you know, And how
1798
01:54:16.359 --> 01:54:19.239
it's being destroyed by global warming and a bunch of
1799
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:23.039
other things they're saying. That's real serious. And then that
1800
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:27.359
took me into something that's called super coral, which are
1801
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.079
these type of corals that they're making that is resistant
1802
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:35.039
to the bleaching effect. And I'm wondering to myself, why
1803
01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:37.600
was Manna just this being not just dealing with me,
1804
01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:41.600
but what it's connection with the Earth matrix and is
1805
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:45.720
that it does this species represent either the past or
1806
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:51.199
the future when coral becomes sentient and leaves. I mean, seriously,
1807
01:54:51.439 --> 01:54:53.880
you know, people are tripping out on octopuses right now,
1808
01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:56.840
and I'm taking a different way. And that's just new too.
1809
01:54:57.159 --> 01:55:03.279
I was watching that show, was that Resident Alien. You know,
1810
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:07.960
he's supposed to be of octopus type of variety that
1811
01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:10.640
I mean not from here, but they're supposed to be
1812
01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:13.439
cousins in a way. His species is an octopus, And
1813
01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:15.119
I just saw an h and alien are talking about
1814
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:17.880
octopus is not from Earth and all this and that
1815
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:20.399
and things. I think there's a lot more than that.
1816
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:25.239
Things that have been planted here, you know, experiments here
1817
01:55:25.640 --> 01:55:28.319
and he mentioned earlier is just a laboratory, Chris. We
1818
01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:31.520
have every sign of that what is with all these
1819
01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:35.640
weird hominids and all these cryptids that just pop out
1820
01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:38.880
of anywhere, jump into people's field of vision and then
1821
01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:41.680
are gone of awareness and then they're gone. They're just
1822
01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:45.399
they're just stacked away into urban legend and folklore that's
1823
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:47.840
been going on a long time here is that are
1824
01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:51.720
those breeding experiments and these creatures are taken What is
1825
01:55:51.880 --> 01:55:55.520
this here? It is a very strange place. So anyway,
1826
01:55:55.600 --> 01:55:58.960
that's I'm sorry I probably didn't aswer your question. No, no, that.
1827
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:05.520
You mentioned people being intertwined with the non corporeal or
1828
01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:10.079
disembodied spirits, and that brings me to one of the
1829
01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:13.079
last things I want to get into today is what
1830
01:56:13.359 --> 01:56:18.520
could be misinterpreted as mental illness. And I think a
1831
01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:23.479
lot of extraterrestrial experiences, a lot of people who experience contact,
1832
01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:28.960
who experience contact with light beings or even malevolent beings,
1833
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:33.119
are being mistaken as mental illness, and they're being given
1834
01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:37.159
these pharmaceuticals to just kill out all whatever's happening in
1835
01:56:37.239 --> 01:56:39.960
their brain, and of course it'll stop the experiences because
1836
01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:42.960
it's probably destroying their brain as well. But I think
1837
01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:45.680
that this is a thing that's happening with people who
1838
01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:49.439
are being mislabeled as mentally ill. What do you think
1839
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:49.760
about that?
1840
01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:53.399
I would you know, I would you know, I would
1841
01:56:53.399 --> 01:56:58.439
agree with that. It's the thing first of all, really
1842
01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:03.800
taking it into really auto suggestion and how powerful out
1843
01:57:03.840 --> 01:57:08.479
of suggestion is truly what the true hypnosis is auto
1844
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:12.720
suggestion and relaxation. Okay, but auto suggestion is so powerful.
1845
01:57:12.960 --> 01:57:16.000
And on this situation what you just talked about, if
1846
01:57:16.039 --> 01:57:19.000
you even relay that you have experiences. You know, since
1847
01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:21.279
I was much younger, before I ever came forward, I
1848
01:57:21.439 --> 01:57:24.439
was obsessed with I thought probably seventy percent of the
1849
01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:27.520
population that had some type of contact, and I found
1850
01:57:27.600 --> 01:57:30.600
that to be true. But guess what, nobody says it
1851
01:57:31.039 --> 01:57:33.880
to each other. You don't talk about it. People see
1852
01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:35.800
a soft squatch. You don't tell nobody. Don't even tell
1853
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:38.319
your husband about your wife about it, because you don't
1854
01:57:38.319 --> 01:57:41.720
want them to think you're crazy. That is a very
1855
01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:48.159
powerful stigma, as powerful as let's say, I know people
1856
01:57:48.239 --> 01:57:50.880
that probably would be I don't want to quote the religion,
1857
01:57:50.920 --> 01:57:53.239
but then I don't have religion, forgive me, but they
1858
01:57:53.319 --> 01:57:57.119
would say they're a Christian because if they weren't, they
1859
01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:00.439
might see you. They might have to spend eternity shoveling
1860
01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:04.279
sulfur into a pit with the with the big horned
1861
01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:07.560
horned demon stabbing them in the ass with a pitch
1862
01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:10.399
for it for eternity. I mean, that's a very powerful
1863
01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:13.279
that's a powerful caricature, you know, enough to worry a
1864
01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:15.119
lot of people. I talk to you, I'll just wear
1865
01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:18.399
Christianity because just a case, you know, just a case.
1866
01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:22.279
I don't know. I don't put anybody down, but I'll
1867
01:58:22.319 --> 01:58:25.359
saying that is a powerful auto suggestion. And the same
1868
01:58:25.439 --> 01:58:28.239
thing if you discuss any type of contact. But right now,
1869
01:58:28.319 --> 01:58:30.960
what's cool with I think not just the virus thing,
1870
01:58:31.039 --> 01:58:35.199
but with the Internet and communication that's changing. People are
1871
01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:37.319
starting to talk a little bit more. And the next
1872
01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:40.640
part of what you said, I think is trying to
1873
01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:43.960
filter out the fact that the truth is in this field,
1874
01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:48.239
your pology and new age. It attracts those that are delusional,
1875
01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:53.359
that are mentally ill. It's like moth to a flame. Okay,
1876
01:58:53.479 --> 01:58:56.800
So trying to use your discernment to find out who
1877
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:02.680
has really experienced something versus who's insane liars versus who
1878
01:59:02.840 --> 01:59:07.159
was driven insane by their encounters. You know, it's a very.
1879
01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:09.960
Any Fortunately, we also have people planted in this community
1880
01:59:10.399 --> 01:59:13.520
to spread this information and give that information too, so
1881
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we got to watch out for that too.
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Oh and they always come in with the with the
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love and like thing. Yes, and they acted to these gurus. Look,
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being a contact deed does not mean you're a guru
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by any stretch. I'm not. I screw up all the time,
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you know, I ate pizza, I do a whole bunch
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of stuff wrong, man, So I'm not. You know, it's
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not even about that, and right now, it's about being
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people and communicating and getting putting this tapestry together, you know,
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even to where I know some of the technologies I've
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been exposed to have been the beings that told me
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that has been corrupted by lower vibrational entities to deceive people.
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So when I hear people some of these people like
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SSP and things, I don't think it's all crap, you
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know what I mean? I think something like that's happening.
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And what better way than the generator field of energy
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that's presses people that would be having an otherwise positive contact.
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All you gotta do is saturateing and train the brain
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with negative encounters to where you know, it doesn't take
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much if you're dealing with a divine field and you're
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getting exterrestrials, interdimensionals, whatever, and that's not I think the
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separate things. We think it is like you mentioned earlier,
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but we're getting that kind of contact, but instead our
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brains are in trained with this grayze anal probes, YadA YadA,
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and it actually messes up the experience. These may be
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positive beings, but we're strong enough to warp that into
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something negative. We do have a lot of power, you know,
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enough to or I can tell you we can walk
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away from the light that day death. We cannot cross
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over and go away from the light and make it
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go away. You know. I just put something up recently, Chris,
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which was Pack Swayze's ghost movie, and it was one
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part and I wanted to see it. It was playing
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on AMC, so I got to catch it. But it's
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when he actually dies and he comes over and sees
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himself there. Demi Moore is crying and all of a
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sudden he goes to this panoramic life review. He's in
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his bed, she's looking at him, and then all of
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a sudden he sees the light and then he's back
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out on the street and he starts going like this,
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and she's the light that's coming towards me. And he
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turned around and ran and it went out, probably not
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real quick. It went out. The spirits that will communicating
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with me, that crossed over through the people that they're inhabiting. Okay,
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have told me that a lot. I ran from that light,
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or one cat told me before even the client's telling
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me this thing to speaking to So you didn't know
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I was here. And I'm not gonna go on that light.
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I'm not going to that light. Why well, because I'm
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gonna have to change there. And I did some things
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that it might be judgment, it could be hell, you know,
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things like that. So the fear of hair once again
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out of suggestion, that's stuff to keep people earthbound. It's
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real serious or property loved ones not wanting to let
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them go. I mean, it's very easy to get taught here,
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much easier than I thought, you know. So anyway, sorry, man,
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I feel like I'm going left.
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I want you ass but yeah, well let's close on this.
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As far as you know what happens life after death,
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why we shouldn't be afraid, you know, I believe that
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we the reincarnation is the thing. I believe that we
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possibly have a choice whether we're coming here going elsewhere,
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depending on certain circumstances. And I'd like to get your
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thoughts on that. Do you think that indeed we are
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reincarnated and what do you think? Do you think that
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we go undergo a life review and actually have a
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choice to come back here or go somewhere else.
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When I died, okay, I was in a car accident
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and I sustained four capistrophic traumatic brain injuries. And that
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was way after my encounter, so that was not that
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was an adult ones happened. That's older. And I saw
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loved ones when I had this when I had died,
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and I could say it was definitely I'm sure it
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was them. It felt like them, okay, And I think
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that they met. I was able to meet them kind
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of halfway because I wasn't fully there either, you know
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what I mean. So that comes down to I think
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we have an ability, and some texts say that to reincarnate,
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come back, or to go on and go pass and
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go more towards the creator. So I think the key
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is to having the last last thoughts when you pass.
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And also your general intent is to go straight the
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Creator and bypass some of these levels and some of
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these reincarnation things. I mean, I care not to I
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mean to go through this again. I don't want to
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forget anything, or a lot of people don't want to
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go through this again. I mean, this is a very
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I'm sorry, let's keep it real. This is a very
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hell is place. It's dangerous as hell down here. Man,
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this is a dangerous place. It's hard to survive as
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trauma walks around like a member of the population, you know.
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So anyway, but that's one thing. So I would say,
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try to have your intent, know how to focus and
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project your intent of will and your intent of will
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with love straight to the Creator real quick. Something that
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some of these other these earth bound spirits will tell
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me is that, you know, they first are talking about
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they all consistently, each one of them, despite what they're
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able to perceive, despite the personality surviving. They say, it's
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dark there. It's dark, and that's why they're latching on
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other people, because these other people have light on them,
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you know. And something else is that I start you know,
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some of them won't talk about the Creator, but they
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seem to forgot love. They seem to be people that
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in their life didn't have a lot of love or
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they were disconnected from it. Then they crossed over, and
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they when you start getting them to perceive more love
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and think of love and especially creator love. I hate
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to say God love, you know, And I say that unreligiously.
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I'm talking about spiritually, okay. And then they start perceiving
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other beings in the room, whether it be angelics or
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loved ones. And I don't know if they were always
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there or if they can't seem to perceive it until
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they start feeling the love. So love is key. Love
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is key. When we cross over, it's a big deal,
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you know. And one thing I can say about mine
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what I experienced. I was in a coma for over
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two weeks, Okay. When I came back, they said to
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be a vegetable the rest of my life, devoid of
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long time and past life memory or short short term
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memories anything. But I was very very blessed, you know.
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But I could still see these angelics I encountered in
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my mind's eye. I still knew before I remembered who
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I was. I could still see my uncle and the
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people I saw that were family members. When I was deceased,
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it was still in my mind's eye, you know, so
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I knew coming back despite all that. The one thing
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I can tell you the lesson I learned was I
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thought I was kind of spiritual. I lived by the
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Golden rule. But man, I underestimated Chris, the impact of
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relationships have on each other. That's what goes with us.
2012
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I underestimated to a degree, and I didn't think I did.
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But I mean, it's it's heavy, it's serious. So express
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love to somebody. Do it while you're in the body,
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you know what I mean. Don't go out like that,
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don't cross over, not go when it's time. When you don't.
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When you go away from running from that light, you're
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running from the angelics that are trying to help. Loved
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ones are trying to help, you know. So I don't
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know how long it takes, but the light does go away,
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and then they just stay here earth bound, and that's miserable.
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I think it's probably a type of hell. You're yelling
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at people trying to get their attention. They don't know
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you're there. Yeah, I heard that a lot too. We
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all ignore me. No, I don't know you're there, you know, anyway,
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so I'll set up from there.
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Does and that's that's very deep stuff. And this was fantastic.
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We're gonna have to do this soon. Thank you so much.
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And before you go, let people know where they can
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find you website social media, that gets.
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Sure. I've got that website Barrylilton dot com in need
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of major reconstruction, but it's still there and there's some
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links there. I'm also on Facebook, but a lot of
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my work is on Patreon, but a lot on YouTube.
2035
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Also Barry Littleton on YouTube. I've been what they call
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shadow bands, So you have to get on there and
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subscribe and go through the playlist, look at the playlist
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and hit that bell. So many people have told me that,
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so anyway, but that's a big one. I have done
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a lot of stuff on YouTube. Got a lot of
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illustrations that have been done by Christine Dinnett that you
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can see from my experiences and it'll make a little
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more sense.
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Sweet Well, thank you so much. That was fantastic.
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Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Great time, a great conversation every time. We'll have to
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have you back on soon and until next time, everything.
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You can now stream the Forbidden documentary of Cult Louisiana
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free on to b TV. Louisiana is a magical place and.
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That was Cajun country.
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You know, the food's good, the ladies is fine.
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It's a fun and roll like the old folks says,
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they love you so much.
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Incredible occult and forgotten history.
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There's a lot to the ancient history and era that
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we could be uncovering. Everybody is starting to like really
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quit pieces together.
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I've been writing books and doing research in the field
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of Native American mounds and archaeology since the nineteen eighties.
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The LSU campus mounds were redated, which is absolutely bizarre.
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This is all very, very strange, and it's just been
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made more strange because the all these old mounds are
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in Louisiana. The Smithsonian dug into over two thousand mounds,
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finding seventeen large skeletons.
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They saw a very tall humanoid being.
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We just have a rich history of paranormal type stuff.
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New Orleans is considered to be the most haut in
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city in the country. The energy that's over the land,
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and that energy seems to be stuck there.
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In twenty nineteen, I had an experience. It was all black,
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had long black hair on it, A tall creature that
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had a dog's head. Legendary things fiction become reality.
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I mean, it's fifteen.
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This dog man chased him through the woods. He only
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survived because of his dog saving his life.
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Y'all may kill me today, I said, but I promise
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you this.
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I'm gonna kill at LEAs two or three young I said,
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you will for the pain of this thirty on season.
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It was so close that he could see down the
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back of its throat.
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The vast swamps of Louisiana hold many secrets, from an
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incredibly old, forgotten history to mythical creatures.
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There are no answers, There's only more questions.
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The nature of this experience seems to always be just
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beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
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There's layers upon layers upon layers.
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Does add such an element of mystery to this place?
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Why are we here?
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We're getting closer to the truth now.
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There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.
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I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
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Dreams involve interact with real entities.
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People are waking up paralyzed, their sensing or seeing something
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very evil in the room.
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I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.
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I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
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alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
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about these things.
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A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
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our paranormal research would say, we'll have the ghost. Well
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what if it's all of those things.
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In none of those things, the entities, the intelligence that
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were just beyond our understanding. There seems to be something
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a little extra that can take forms of anything.
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I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
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a daily basis.
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We're definitely not alone.
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UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up.
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I really thought this supernatural stuff you kind of grow
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up with that. Around here, you see a lot of
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strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.
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I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.
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People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.
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There's these bad things that occur, goals, UFOs and all
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types of things coming from somewhere.
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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
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I want to welcome back to the show, Walter Bosley.
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He is an investigator of historical occult mysteries, author of
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pulp fiction novels, and a screenwriter who has appeared on
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History Channel's Ancient Aliens. After nineteen years in National security,
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he is a licensed private investigator in California, where he
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also runs his small press publishing company, Lost Continent Library.
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He spends his time writing fiction and nonfiction as well
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as investigating strange mysteries in between PI assignments. Walter, welcome back.
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How you doing pretty good? Glad to be back here.
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It's always good to talk to you.
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Yes, it's great to have you back. We finally made
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it happen again and I'm looking forward to it as well.
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Today I wanted to get your thoughts and insight into
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the extremely strange nature of our current reality and how
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those with eyes to see are aware of some of
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the massive syncreticities and predictive programming that has come out
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of books, literature, and Hollywood throughout our modern history. And
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it seems like this year especially, there are some eyebrow
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raising events occurring in the political space that can seem
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straight out of a pulp fiction novel. And on top
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of that, there's a new level of political propaganda brought
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to us by aiart and algorithms. It gets difficult to
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even imagine what our future can hold, even just a
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few years from now. But I have my popcorn and
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guns ready and we'll see how it goes, I guess.
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But before we get into this, remind the audience just
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a little bit about yourself. It's been a while and
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your work.
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Well. I spent twenty years in the US nation security
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community between multiple agencies, and most of that time was encounter,
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espionage and counterintelligence, and about a third of that time
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was dedicated counter terrorism. I would like to clarify one
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thing because there's there's this, uh kind of ignorant definition
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going around out there that's popular, and there's some guys
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out there that are characterizing anybody in counterintelligence as some
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type of evil, nefarious Gestapo person whose job it was
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was to lie.
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I'm going to be in the C to you, Walter,
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So you know, I said I'm going to be in
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the CIA just from talking to you. I may be
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a shill or what you know.
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Yeah, And and and here's the thing that counter intelligence
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is countering the intelligence and agencies of hostile nations. That's
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what counter intelligence means. It's if if you're into disinformation duties,
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disinformation is what they mean. But they're besmirching the good
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name of counterintelligence. Okay, and US counterintelligence guys who've actually
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done the job and lived in that world don't appreciate
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when civilians get it so wildly wrong just because it's
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the popular rant. So I was in counterintelligence, and when
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you hear those guys say, all them counterintelligence guys their
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job is to lie. They they know this little bit,
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and they think they know a lot more. So Anyway,
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I just felt I felt the need to clarify that because, yeah,
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I'm I'm very proud of my time in counterintelligence counter spionage.
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I did counter espionage operations as well, and again against
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the agents and operations of foreign intelligence services and hostile nations.
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So I didn't do my stuff against any Americans. So
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you know, it's there's a lot of misperceptions out there
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that and this will play into our discussion today because
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it's one of the many misperceptions that stirs people up
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in the wrong direction. People need to be stirred up.
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Don't get me wrong, but there be in the wrong directions.
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So that for twenty years saw a big chunk of
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the world when I was encounter terrorism. And towards the
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end of that, I started my own publishing company. And
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I've been doing that now almost twenty two years, publishing
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company of fiction and nonfiction, and and I've really, I've
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really enjoyed being a publisher. My degree was in journalism,
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so you know, it's kind of being a man of
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letters is part of my formal education and part of
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my life. So that's that's pretty much the quick version right.
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Now, and that's perfect introduction. Now, speaking of misinformation and
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the state of insanity that we're in right now, conspiracy
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culture has become dangerous waters at times. Now I do
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this for a living. This talk show covers conspiracies, the occult, paranormal,
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everything out of the normal space of everyday thoughts. Things
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have gotten so strange in our reality. It's hard to
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decipher some of the things that you interact with through
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social media, because social media is what we are primarily
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using to communicate, to convey our ideas, our theories, and
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really share information as a whole. Right now. So it's
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been interesting to see what's happened since the events of
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twenty twenty have played out, with censorship, with cancel culture,
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and now this it seems like it's just flooded with misinformation,
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bad information. I'd love to get your thoughts and insights
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into how everything has unfolded over the past few years.
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That's a big question. I think I'm on board with,
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you know, all of us who saw an agenda with
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what's been going on from the beginning. And when I
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say from the beginning, I mean you know, the beginning.
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The real beginning of the agenda, of course, was the
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COVID issue, right, the pushing of that on us, the quarantines,
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and then of course the monkey business with the election
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later that year. And you know, the whole objective of
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the current administration from day one was to just simply
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reverse what the previous guy did, you know, and started
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that on day one and increasingly putting the screws to
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the economy. Basically, they want to control the masses. They
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want greater control over the masses the people perpetrating this.
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And you know, one way that you go after a
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society like here in the US is you divide us.
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You keep us very unhappy, you keep us down in.
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One of the best ways to do that is to
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break all of us financially. Okay, Americans, we may disagree
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on a lot of other things, but we usually agree
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that none of us like being broke, not really. And
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the heart of any kind of resistance is a middle class.
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Okay.
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It's been that way in other societies. It's been that
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way in our history. For tyrants to rule, they have
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to destroy, okay, they have to defing and destroy. And
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if they can't eliminate the middle class, okay, because it's
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from the middle classes that people rise into the upper
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class and can potentially become as wealthy and powerful as
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the perpetrators. And they don't want that. There's people out
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there that you know, and I don't think they're crazy.
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They'll point out that. And again, the vaccine is one
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of the signs of this, one of the overt signs
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of this. They want a lot of us dead, okay,
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but before that, they want to drive us into the ground.
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So that's why all the division, that's why the breaking
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of us financially, uh to to that's why ruining entrepreneurship
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on the small mid level corporatism is all they want.
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And so all of the stuff there when you're talking
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about the uh, the predictive programming, okay, what what that's
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serving is the mental confusion that's serving the division and
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the chaos. Okay, it's the kind of thing that we're
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going to notice, I mean, think about it. They want
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us to notice that. Now you can talk about revelation
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of method, right when someone's doing some type of working,
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magical working or such, you know there's the revelation of
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method or just revelation that yeah, we're going to do
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this thing, and then you know it happens. These are
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all tactics to serve the chaos in the division and
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to drive us nuts. Right, they want us so paranoid. Okay,
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that really what the goal is is to have us
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question even the truth, question even the real things. This
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is why you get flat earthers being so adamant that, right,
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this is why you get Apollo eleven moon landing deniers. Okay,
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Because now the thing is, if you say I don't
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think that happened, now when somebody says, well, it did happen,
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and here's the evidence proving it. Now, what these folks
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do is just say, well, I don't accept that. Therefore
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I keep my position. So you know, this is where
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we're at, and they want it to get worse. They
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here's the thing, it's divide and conquered. Okay. They start
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us out on the level where they don't want us
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to believe in history anymore. They want to wipe that out.
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They don't don't want us to believe anything we see,
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and they don't want us to believe each other. Okay,
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And with a lot of people, they the perpetrators of
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this are achieving that. You know, anyway, that was a
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big question, and that was.
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Great of that. I have been checked out of being
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invested in politics at all and on any level. To me,
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I see it, as theater called me a super conspiracy theorist.
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I'm sure that there's levels of it. I'm sure that
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even some of the players in these positions believe that
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they are doing this for certain, but above all, there
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are higher powers pulling the strings. I've come to see that,
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and I have lost faith in the system. And I
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see that both sides have become so extreme that even
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if you're looking at things objectively in the middle, you
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have become the enemy these days because you're not a
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right wing or a left wing extremist.
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Yes, yes, and absolutely, and that's one of my things.
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I have issue with what's going on in our society.
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Now here's how I put it. I personally am a
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right of center guide definitely, Okay, definitely. I've considered myself
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conservative with a small sea.
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Now.
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I have a distaste for the establishment Republican Party, Okay.
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I do not trust nor like neocons because there's just
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a little too much of the fascist thread running through
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their philosophy. Now, a lot of people in our community,
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for a long time they would agree with that, but
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now we've got a new extreme, you know, on the
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right side, which in my opinion, is proving already to
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me and they're going to prove it more to others
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that they're as bad as extremist on the left. But
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if you say anything critical about them to your fellow
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people right of center, you get immediately labeled, well, you're
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a hater, you you hate this particular kind of people.
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Americans are being split and divided, and they're trying to
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push us to the extremes as quickly and as far
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as possible, okay, because they know there's a rationality there.
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They know that anybody who's not to the extreme left
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or the extreme right is a little more open to
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working together and not being susceptible to the crap that
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they want to control us with. Okay, So what they've
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managed to do with the extremists on the right, in
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my opinion, is they've settled on something that is so
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steeped in the conditioning of many Americans that when you
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speak critically of it, it gets misunderstood. See, And that
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right there is why we have the extremes. There's people
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on the left people I have friends that are left
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of center, family that's left of center, and they're saying
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the same thing about their side. And we would all say,
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what happened to the days when I mean, you're not
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old enough. I'm old enough to remember when most of
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your friends you didn't know how they voted because it
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wasn't something that was, you know, waved around like a
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fiery flag in front of everybody's face. Twenty four to seven.
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You know, we work together, we got along better. But
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you know, they don't want that. They they they don't
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want that. They want these extremes and they want the
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extremists on left and right to be calling the shots
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for each side. In other words, you go and lockstep
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with us here on the far right, or you're not conservative,
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or you're not with us, you're one of them. And
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we know the radicals on the left do the same
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crazy thing. So you know this is this is part
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of what's been going on and what's going on right now.
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Well, I want to go back to the predictive programming
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and synchronistic aspects of what we see on a daily
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basis through Hollywood literature and just in our own lives.
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I in no way claim to understand how synchronicities work,
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but I've experienced it enough to recognize when it happens
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and know that there's something to this. I see it
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in my own life on a small scale, but I
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also see it in a macro sense with everything unfolding,
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and you look back at events throughout history and you
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can see how they're connected in different ways. And earlier
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you mentioned how a lot of it, yes, is programmed
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into it intentionally. But I'm wondering if there's this other
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mystical force, some kind of creative force that flows through
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writers' authors produce sure that comes through, that really creates
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this synchronistic reality that we live in. And it's not
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all top down, pyramid illuminati planned and put in there, you.
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Know, right right, Yeah, I that that, thank you. That's
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another thing. I get so weary of the people that
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it's all a conspiracy. Yeah it's all the Illuminati. No, no,
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it's not all Okay, they love that you believe that.
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And I don't get through discussions like this without having
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to bring up the Dunning Kruger problem. Particularly in the
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United States. Oh my god, we have so many people
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that think they know and remember the Dunning Kruger thing involves.
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It's it's a syndrome where you know, you think you
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know something, you know nothing, or you don't know what
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it is you think you know, and the more you
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think you're right, the less you're right, you know, And
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oh my god, right now, American society is all of
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those idiots. But here's the thing on synchronicity. We know
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that Young defined it as a meaningful coincidence, and that's
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really the best, one of the best definitions that you
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could It is the best definition for a single synchronicity.
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When when I first started encountering them and realizing I
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was encountering them because they're all around us, folks. You're
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encountering them all the time, whether you realize it or not.
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But when I started realizing it and seeing, you know,
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at first you think, oh my god, something's communicating this
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to me. And it can. It can be something that
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is alerting you to them and communicating them to you.
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But then as I experienced them more and got deeper
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and deeper, I began to see that wait a minute.
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Synchronicities are kind of the threads are are are a
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thread in the fabric of reality. Okay, they are. At
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the same time, Synchronicities can be something that is consciously
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placed by a sentient being, be it human or otherwise.
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the sense that it's the nature of how material reality
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manifests and keeps itself going. Let me give you an
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example the Abraham Lincoln jfk You know resonance, right, and
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you've heard this for decades that the synchronicities, the coincidences,
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they used to call them synchronosities between Lincoln's asassination and
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John F. Kennedy's assassination. Right now, this can be looked
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at as both ways that I was describing number one,
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you can look at it as you can look at
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it as something that let's say, in a period of years,
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just for simplicity's sake, for discussion, let's say a century,
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one hundred years. Well, in each century, there are certain
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things that are the iconic things, okay, the what's the
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word for, archetypal things that have to happen to keep
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reality moving forward. And in the ninth in the nineteenth century, okay,
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Abraham Lincoln was in that role of what was programmed
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by nature to happen, the leader who gets assassinated and
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blah blah, blah, blah blah. And then in the twentieth century,
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it just it falls to JFK that he happens to
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fill that slot. In other words, it was going to
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happen again, you know, as it did in the ninth
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It was gonna happen again in some way because remember
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synchronicity's rhyme, they don't necessarily have to man should be identical.
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And so it was just it was just maybe the
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bad luck of these men who you know, their fates
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led them to be in that position for that thing
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that had to happen. The other possibility is that it
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was a conscious act of black magic, for lack of
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a better term, on such a deep and trans temporal
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cross time cosmic level, but perpetrated, okay, in such a way.
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In other words, the Lincoln assassination perpetrated in such a
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way down to certain details that what they did was
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they caused a sympathetic magic ripple in the time stream
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time space continuum, so that they dropped the level of
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the magical act of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln into
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the time space continuum. Okay, and the the the rings
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of waves ripples went out.
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And that next one to match it was the JFK assassination.
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What ninety eight years later, now it could be in
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this century, in the twenty and sixties, we have another
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president assassinated, and it will have all sorts of little
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resonant details with the JFK and Lincoln assassinations, and it'll
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free people out and go.
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What's going on?
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And you know that was, you know, part of the intention.
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So there's an example of two synchronicitous events, two events
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filled with synchronicities that connect them Okay, that could have
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either been induced consciously as act of some type of magic,
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for lack of a better term, or could have just
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been the design of the one hundred year loops that
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we're on, like one hundred year loop, And so when
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the next hundred years start, you see similar things happening
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over and over.
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Yeah, some of the predictive programming that we've seen has
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been so on the nose. It makes me scratch my head,
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raised eyebrow a little bit about where the information comes from.
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them parasitic ruling class get their ideologies from, get the
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information from. And I know you've written lots about and
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discussed the possibilities of time travel and scrawing, and how
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possibly some of these very powerful black magic practitioners, for
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lack of better term, or able to yeah, grasp information
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from somewhere else.
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I think that somebody is able to look across the
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space time continuum. Now, if that's true, if I and
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many others are right about this, then that could be
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evidence for the multiverse theory.
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In other words, they may not be looking back in
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time in this exact dimension that we're living this this
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particular timeline in but maybe they're able to see cross dimensionally, right,
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and they're looking in the past of an adjacent dimension
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that is all virtually identical to this one. But maybe
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with you know certain you know, at least one significant difference, right,
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because the popular understanding of these multiple dimensions is that
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you change something and you're breaking off or you've jumped
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a different track and there's going to be something different.
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I think that this idea that someone can do this,
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and maybe it's having been done for the last now
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one hundred and fifty years.
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You talk about people talk about the extraterrestrial existence and
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the UFOs and the UFO file being ultra secret. I
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think this is one of the deepest secrets. However it's done,
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however it worked. I do think somebody has the capability
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to be looking across time and space, either with a
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you know, a material technology you know, machinery or device, whatever,
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or you know, some type of organic technology like remote viewing.
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how I only you know. I think there's hints out there,
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and I explore those hints, and but but I do
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suspect I have no problem with the discussion that somebody
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can do it, and it's being done and could definitely
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explain predictive programming. Although I do want to say this,
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when you think you see an example of predictive programming,
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what I want you The first thing I want you
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to do is measure the the the time between when
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that programming was made public and when the perceived predicted
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event happens. Okay, the longer that time, the greater the
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possibility that the perpetrators of the event got the idea
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from the programming. In other words, this was not predicted
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programming in every case. This was just something some writer
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came up with, either for a laugh or a shock
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or whatever, and a bad guy somewhere between when that
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show or movie was out there publicly and the matching
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event happening, the bad guy bad guys in the meantime
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saw that and it gave him the idea. Right now,
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there's if there's a short period of time and the
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matches are just too extraordinary, that's the predicted programming concern
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that we're talking about. But you have to you have to,
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you know, you have to ask yourself how much time
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is between that? Like my understanding is with the Lone
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Gunman episode where the plane hit the World Trade Center, right,
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I think that was the same year, that was in
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two thousand and one that that episode aired. Yeah, if
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I'm not thinking, yeah, that might be Okay, a couple
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of things here, Okay, Number one, that might be Superficially
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you'd look at it, you go, well, that's too short
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of a time for a bad guy to get the
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idea and then pull off that thing, you know, if
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it was only even if it was just a couple
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of months or whatever, a few months, but definitely if
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it was only weeks or days or whatever. But then again,
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the idea of planes being used as weapons and terror
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stack was an idea that was had been out there,
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that counter terrorism professionals had learned, that bad guys had
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thought of that years ago. So who knows. You know,
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writers on these shows, particularly something you know, this was
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a spinoff of The X Files, you know, they cultivate relationships,
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they cultivate friends, like for the world I was in
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and people talk and they say things and how it
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could have happened. Okay, was some writer in the X
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Files happened to know a guy like I used to
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be you know, and it was talking with him, and
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that guy might have said, yeah, you know, there's one
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terrorist group that they've got a plan to fly airplanes
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into buildings or you know, major buildings like the you
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know this, that or the other of the World Trade Center,
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New York or whatever. And remember they already tried to
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bomb it once in the early nineties. Well, then that
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writer goes, hey, let's have this in the scene there,
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you know, and then of course subsequently it happens. Well,
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of course it happened because their their source in this
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hypothesis told them this was already planned by the bad guys,
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So it was just the timing makes it look oh weird. Okay, Now,
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if you want to be honest with yourself as an
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investigator or somebody trying to ingest all this data we
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got thrown at us, you have to eliminate the mundane
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before you can seriously consider and settle on the extraordinary. Okay,
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you'll be glad you did, because here's the thing. If
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you get in, if people get in the practice of
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stepping back, taking a breath, looking at things objectively, considering
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the more mundane possibilities, when you can eliminate all those
416
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and you come to the extraordinary, you are more confident
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in your conclusion that it was something extraordinary because you
418
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.400
did your work, you did your due diligence. When you
419
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.079
jump right to everything's the extraordinary, well, you look like
420
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.680
an idiot. Whether you think so or not, you end
421
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.960
up looking like an idiot. But you know, that's the
422
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consideration for the predicted programming thing. Now on the side
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of it being what we suspect it is. Yeah, that's
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really that. That's something to be concerned about because my gosh,
425
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:14.279
you know, two demonstrate some horrific thing that you're going
426
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.759
to do with details like in the matrix the nine
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to eleven date on his past, and to be and
428
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to have the arrogance and confidence that, yeah, you know,
429
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.680
we're going to pull this off. We're going to do this,
430
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.319
We're actually going to do this, and there's nothing you
431
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:32.160
can do about right.
432
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.480
Well, you were talking about the possible methods for this
433
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:43.440
time travel ability or dimensional hopping, and you mentioned remote viewing,
434
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:50.920
and to me, this seems like a very probable way
435
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.440
to achieve this type of travel. I've spoken with many
436
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remote viewers and different guests. Some have told stories about
437
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:06.519
people who have been able to achieve a fully immersed
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state in these different timelines or these different dimensions for
439
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:16.680
a significant period of time and come back with different information.
440
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.920
I've even heard of people that slip into a different
441
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timeline and stay there. What do you think about that?
442
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.319
Do you think this is at all possible and that
443
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time travel could mainly most easily be achieved through consciousness abilities?
444
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.559
Well, talking about organic things, I just wrote about what
445
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you said in this new book that I came out
446
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.640
with the Time of a guidebook. Yeah, I got into that,
447
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:55.279
I explored it. I do think remote viewing is I
448
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.119
think it's valid. First of all, there's folks out there
449
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.440
that think it's complete not or nonsense, and you know,
450
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.559
they just they don't buy into it, and they, you know,
451
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.880
very loudly tell others not to give it any consideration.
452
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.039
My personal experience with it has convinced me that there
453
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is something to it. I acknowledge that there's a bunch
454
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of Tom Fooler out there, people claiming to be remote viewers,
455
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and there is nonsense and foolishness with anything.
456
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:25.160
You know.
457
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.559
There's idiots in UFOs, there's idiots in Bigfoot, there's idiots
458
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.960
and anything you want to, you know, point out you're
459
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going to find them, right, That's just the way it is.
460
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.720
But I found remote viewing to be a valid thing.
461
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And as far as time travel is concerned, I write
462
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in this book, this time travel guidebook, that I think
463
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there were I write about. I talk about two writers,
464
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.119
Jack Finney and Richard Mathieson. They're the authors of two
465
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:03.759
great time travel novels. Finny wrote Time and Again. Matheson,
466
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.160
of course, wrote a novel titled mid Time Return, which
467
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.199
was changed because of the movie Somewhere in Time. And
468
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.960
everybody's heard most people have heard of Somewhere in Time.
469
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And here's the interesting thing. Finney's book has a character
470
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who's an illustrator. He's an advertising illustrator, and an army officer,
471
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intelligence officer comes to him and says, we have this
472
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.360
secret program, very classified. I want to introduce you to it.
473
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:42.159
And basically it's about using the mind to time travel, okay,
474
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to travel through time to a targeted place in time.
475
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And they have their own little they got a warehouse,
476
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and they've got the warehouse. They built in little apartments
477
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in there, and each apartment the remote I'm sorry, the
478
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:02.000
time traveler questers him or herself in there, they wear
479
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the clothes of their target period, they're surrounded by objects
480
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in the environment of their target period, and they use
481
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the mind to hypnotize themselves or whatever, and then literally
482
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.719
transport their bodies to the targeted time in the past.
483
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And the main character, the illustrator, he's very successful at it,
484
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and of course the novels about his trip back to
485
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:35.400
the eighteen eighties I think in New York. But you know,
486
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.599
I had read this years ago. But when I learned
487
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.800
about the remote viewing program, I thought, well, wow, that's
488
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.760
you know, you have a viewer in a little cubicle
489
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right sequestered from any outside noises or distractions, and they
490
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.239
focus and they use their mind to see right across distances.
491
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And one of the things they claimed they discovered was
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they could see across time as well. So I looked
493
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into this, and you know, when I first looked into this,
494
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I found out, wait a minute, the remote viewing program,
495
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we're told didn't start until nineteen seventy two, I think
496
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seventy two or three. But boy, does what they do
497
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.920
sound very much like this Jack Finnie novel. Okay, so
498
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:29.199
I wondered, well, shoot, did they get the idea from
499
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:34.599
Finni or were they actually doing this before we're told
500
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.920
that the Army remote viewing program began? In other words,
501
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.400
were they doing this, say in the late sixties and
502
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.199
Finny the author found out about it and did a
503
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.719
fictionalized account, And then we have Matheson five years later,
504
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which just two or three years after the remote viewing
505
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.119
program we are told began. He has a time travel
506
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story where a guy does the same thing. He puts
507
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on a suit of nineteen ten in the movie. In
508
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.800
the book, it's eighteen ninety six, and he is in
509
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.679
a hotel that existed back then, and he convinces himself
510
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.920
that he's back in that time, and it works. He's
511
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.039
able to use the power of his mind, you know,
512
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:23.199
the focusing kind of latches him onto that time and
513
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.320
he's able to with the power of his mind, pull
514
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.239
his body into the past as well, so to speak.
515
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So they are very similar. They came out within five
516
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years of each other. They these are two guys who
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00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.079
knew each other. Okay, Matheson and Finnie were two of
518
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.199
the great sci fi writers and fantasy writers of their day,
519
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.679
their generation, so certainly they you know, would influence each
520
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.159
other but I dug a little deeper. I found out
521
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that Matheson had been in the Army during World War Two,
522
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and that Finny, though he hadn't been on active duty
523
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:02.079
in the military, he was working, uh we're told vaguely
524
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because he's an illustrator. He was working on the the
525
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.320
the war posters that had to do with keeping your
526
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.519
mouth shut, like loose lips, sink ships, that kind of
527
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And these were the kinds of things that were that
528
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.559
you know, they even had them in my day back
529
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.920
in the eighties. You know, these don't talk kind of posters.
530
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.480
You know, we had them as a novelty, but they
531
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were meant to be taken seriously. And he was doing that.
532
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.360
So what did that indicate to someone like me? Now,
533
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.079
as someone who doesn't him, doesn't in him my background,
534
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.480
you would say, ah, so what he did posters as
535
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:41.719
so what a lot of guys were in the army. Okay,
536
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.960
you can think that. Go right ahead, mister Dunning. Pertin
537
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:49.559
got me knowing a little bit more about that world.
538
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.320
I go, oh, Finny was involved with that effort. What
539
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.880
else was he involved in with military intelligence? Okay, Matheson
540
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.880
he was in the arm Me, what did he really
541
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.480
do in the arm Okay, so did they still have
542
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:10.960
contacts with the military if they had been in military intelligence,
543
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.000
did they learn or did Finny learn about this remote
544
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.599
viewing stuff and he told Matheson about it, or did
545
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.320
Matheson learn about it from his own contact. I just
546
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.199
find it really interesting that these two guys write these
547
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.079
particular type of time stories where it's the power of
548
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.760
the mind in first looking and thinking across time and space.
549
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.920
I just I found it really interesting. And when you
550
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.320
put it all together, you know, you begin to see
551
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.760
an hypothesis emerge that Okay, maybe what we're seeing in
552
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.239
these works of fiction is a clue and a hint
553
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.159
as to what was could actually be done with this
554
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.920
remote viewing stuff. So you know, that's and again I
555
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.960
flashed the book for those you can see my Time
556
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.079
Traveled guidebook. I go into the you know, the details
557
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:04.360
on that.
558
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.400
There's so many questions surrounding this.
559
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.360
Yeah, go ahead. Oh, I'm just saying yes, And I
560
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:20.599
do think remote viewing allows one to look across time
561
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.119
in space.
562
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:21.440
Yeah.
563
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.599
Now, as I was saying, there's so many questions surrounding this,
564
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:31.000
where my mind goes is if we are accessing different
565
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.800
dimensions or realities that are unfolding simultaneously. Are we, in
566
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:42.000
a sense, taking over someone else's consciousness or taking over
567
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.320
someone else's body in a different dimension. Are we pushing
568
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.719
out that consciousness? Or are we creating a brand new
569
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.800
reality just with the power of our mind? My weird
570
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:55.960
mind goes there.
571
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.400
Could be all of it, But I would first I
572
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.880
would suggest another possibility that if your consciousness in this timeline,
573
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:11.400
you know, jumps to a different timeline dimension, Let's say
574
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.360
it's another dimension. What you might be occupying is your
575
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.960
body in that other dimension? I think that's more likely. Or,
576
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.960
as Lovecraft wrote back in nineteen thirty seven before he died,
577
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.639
you know, and he got the idea from a movie
578
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.480
titled Berkeley Square nineteen thirty four. Look it up. He
579
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.079
was obsessed with that film. What you could be doing
580
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.519
is jumping into the body of an ancestor.
581
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.840
You know what I'm wondering you, Does it negate the
582
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.960
consciousness of that say ancestor that is having that human
583
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.280
experience at that time. If our consciousness that has all
584
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:56.000
of our memories from this particular timeline jumps into that one,
585
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.440
does it merge? Or I wonder if it just pushes
586
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.239
that out a very strange interesting question.
587
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:09.119
Could it could merge? But for example, in the story
588
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.159
in Berkeley Square, the ancestor, his consciousness goes forward in
589
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.199
time to the body of the man who's jumped into
590
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.360
his body from the future. So they switch. Yeah, that's
591
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.199
that's one option. Another option is that they're both occupying
592
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:33.000
that body at the same time, and technically you could
593
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:38.239
call that some type of possession and and that could
594
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:45.719
that could cause problems potentially like maybe schizophrenia, you know, disassociation,
595
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.880
that kind of thing, if it's done wrong, or if
596
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.559
the psyche of the person can't handle it or for
597
00:42:53.599 --> 00:43:00.199
whatever reason. You know that if if you consider one
598
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.760
of these options, because neither one of us know you
599
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.840
know the exact answer to that question, but we can
600
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.119
guess at possibilities, right, And it's either you switch places,
601
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.679
or you're both in there at the same time, or
602
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.760
maybe you do merge, and maybe maybe the convergence point
603
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.159
where you merge feels like an enlightenment. Okay, Now, I
604
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.519
had an experience in December of seventy nine where I
605
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:33.599
woke up one morning and everything was different. I was
606
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.800
looking around like, Okay, the first thing I did was
607
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.000
I looked at my hands and I thought, these are
608
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.079
not my hands. And I'm going around the house and
609
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.800
I'm recognizing, you know, my sisters, my mom, and my dad.
610
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.519
But it was in a way it was I recognized
611
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:56.639
everyone there, but it was like, honestly that I was
612
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:01.679
there for the first time. And so if let's say
613
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.840
another me jumped from a different timeline into this one,
614
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.159
into I was sixteen at the time, into my sixteen
615
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:19.559
year old self here, and whatever that other me brought
616
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.119
merged with the me that was already present in this body,
617
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.599
and you know, you add up all to some of
618
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.840
the parts. And I woke up that morning, and yes,
619
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.280
I was enlightened in some way. I was different because
620
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.239
the other me, even though he recognized the members of
621
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.760
the family and the house and everything, he had seen
622
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:48.000
it from the other dimension. Okay, now he was seeing
623
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:52.239
it in this dimension because after I looked at my hands,
624
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.760
I then I touched the wall and was looking at
625
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.039
the texture of the wall, you know. And remember I
626
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.199
was I was a nerdy kid. I didn't drink or
627
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.639
do drugs or anything. I never ingested THC till i'd
628
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.039
been diagnosed with cancer in twenty twenty, and you know,
629
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.039
it started taking gummies, you know, to help with that.
630
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.639
So it wasn't a trip, it wasn't a hangover. It
631
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.599
was woke up and it was weird stuff going on.
632
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:25.280
And so that could have been another me, okay, from
633
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.159
a different timeline. Okay, in the past, I wondered if
634
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:33.239
it was me from my own future jumping back into
635
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.400
my sixteen year old self. But with this multi timeline,
636
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.280
it could be me and older me for example, who
637
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.280
jumped into a younger me in this timeline. So it's
638
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:52.840
still me, but it's an enhanced me because it's me
639
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.800
and another meat.
640
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.920
Do you think that it's possible that what we're seeing
641
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.280
as the Mandela effect could just be reflection of bleeding
642
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.679
through these different dimensions and timelines.
643
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:11.440
Yeah, could be. It could be people having made the
644
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.079
jumps from different timelines and not consciously realizing that that's
645
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.039
what's happened to them, that that's what they've done.
646
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:18.079
But but.
647
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.000
It could all It could be all of this, by
648
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.320
the way, but it could also be in the mix,
649
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.840
could be some shenanigans with technology. You know, there's that
650
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.719
whole issue with cern and collider and things like that.
651
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.639
Yes, you know, well, I did want to get your
652
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:42.840
thoughts on how advanced you think our black sector military
653
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technology is compared to what we know about. I know
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that you've written about portals many times. I recently went
655
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.559
spent some time at Space Wolf Research Center right next
656
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to Skinwalker Ranch, and the amount of interest in that
657
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length and from aerospace companies and billionaires is incredible. So
658
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:10.079
there is something very interesting going on there, and these
659
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high level interests, military interest, Pentagon airspace companies, they are
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very aware that there is something that they can harness there,
661
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probably weaponize, and I'd like your thoughts on that, especially
662
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when it comes to possibility. I've heard that some of
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these entities out there at Skinwalker Ranch have even successfully
664
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opened portals, things have come through, so very interesting things
665
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unfolding there. But the fact that there is such interest
666
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from such high level corporate entities and military tells me
667
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that there's something to all that.
668
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.480
Yeah, well, the technology part, like, how far is are technology? Well,
669
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I think it's easy to say too that the technologies
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advanced enough that something that they were testing off of
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00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.239
the coast of California in two thousand and four to
672
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.239
this day has a bunch of people convinced that it
673
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was some other worldly thing. Okay, that's that's an example
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of how advanced some of our technology is. But as
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00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:26.679
far as skin Walker Ranch, again, you got to do
676
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.760
the due diligence on thinking about all this stuff. It
677
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could be that what they're interested in in that area, okay,
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is not what the wild stories are. It could be
679
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:49.639
that those wild stories are just that wild stories, and
680
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they're allowed to be perpetuated because it helps cover what
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the real technological interest is.
682
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Okay.
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00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:03.840
It could be something that scientifically is fascinating and even
684
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for the layman, you know, would be like, oh, that's cool,
685
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.679
you know. But it could also be that all that
686
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.760
stuff about the big giant dire wolf coming through the
687
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.679
portal and all this stuff, that that could just be
688
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.800
nonsense that was a byproduct of an original crazy cover story.
689
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:27.880
Could be you have to consider that possibility. I personally,
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I think they already crossed a line of Okay, hard
691
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to believe what's coming out of there, because you know,
692
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by the time you get to the point where it's
693
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.000
made into a reality show the way it's been made
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into and you know other ways that it's been expressed,
695
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:50.920
then you're you're unfortunately getting into the territory where now
696
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.599
it's difficult to know what are the legitimate accounts and
697
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.719
what are the ones that are just the products of entertainment.
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00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.920
And so what I fall back.
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00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:08.079
I would love to see the actual government file on
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the property, the actual bona fide classified file that's on
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00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:18.960
the property, because that's where you would get the real
702
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.960
stuff to pay attention to. It's like Indrid Cold with
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00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.440
the Woody Dernberger Moffman. Okay, let me tell you something.
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00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:30.880
The legitimate Indrid Cold stuff to pay attention to is limited.
705
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.880
It's what Woody Dernberger first reported. Okay, all that stuff
706
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.840
afterwards about Indrid Cold, the crazy smiling man, and he
707
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.400
appeared in New Jersey and he was and he was
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00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.199
you know this, or some people said it it was
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00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.679
a gang affiliate and all this crazy stuff, particularly the
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00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.760
stuff of the last ten twenty years. This is all
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00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:58.000
most of its nonsense.
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Okay.
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00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.519
What they're doing is people are it's on the level
714
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of the creepypasta stuff. Okay, you have to go back
715
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to the source material. And that's what I'm saying about.
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00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:15.920
Unfortunately about Skinwalker Ranch. You can't go on what George
717
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Knapp or somebody. I think he wrote a book that
718
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.559
involved I could be wrong, but you can't go on
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00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:26.480
the books written by folks like in the UFO Paranormal.
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00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.960
Well, for me, the most interesting thing out there was
721
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:33.440
talking to the locals and the natives and the people
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00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:37.000
who have had first hand experiences and you know, throw
723
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.679
away all these stories you hear from these big entities.
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I was talking to the people who have witnessed things personally,
725
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.840
and some of their stories were fast, absolutely fascinating.
726
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.800
You get on the ground right and you go talk
727
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:56.320
to these people that have lived there, you know, but ultimately,
728
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:58.679
as far as you know, talking about the interest in
729
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.320
the aerospace companies, except that's what I was referring to,
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I would want to see and you know, obviously I've
731
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been outside. We're all here, you know, as far as
732
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.400
we know, outside that community, so we don't have access
733
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to that, and in that would clarify why the aerospace
734
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.079
and other technology and other such companies are involved. And
735
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.519
it doesn't mean that it's not I'm not saying that
736
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it's not extraordinary. What I'm saying is to be selective
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and use discernment in which accounts you're going to you know,
738
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:38.880
really considered because ever since it gotten the domain of entertainment, well,
739
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.880
a lot of crap gets, you know, put out there.
740
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:43.000
Got to be careful.
741
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.519
Now, last half of the show, I want to tie
742
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:50.760
back this year's election to time travel and predictive programming.
743
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:55.000
And I know you wrote about Ingersoll Lockwood and the
744
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.960
last President and all the strange connections between these stories.
745
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For those that may not be familiar, give us an
746
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:09.480
overview of Ingersoll Lockwood and some of the stories that
747
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he wrote.
748
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:16.760
Well, it's very simple. Ingersholl Lockwood in the eighteen nineties
749
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:24.599
wrote some stories. Two books about a boy, a young
750
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:31.719
kid who travels to fantastic places and has fantastic adventures. Okay,
751
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.320
similar to Alice in Wonderland, Gulliver's Travels. You know, you
752
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:42.800
name it, and he happens to have a title of Baron, Okay,
753
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.239
like there's a duke, there's a prince, there's barn right,
754
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:49.239
and his last name happens to be Trump, Baron Trump.
755
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.719
And this book was written in published in eighteen ninety three.
756
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It was the eighteen nineties, and they were illustrated by
757
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.079
a guy named Charles Howard Johnson, who I also talk
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00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.800
a lot about in My Time Travel book and Charles
759
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.480
Howard Johnson's illustration of the character Baron Trump, the little
760
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:22.239
boy in the stories, Well, bear's an uncanny resemblance, almost exact,
761
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:25.480
and in some there is one picture that is exact
762
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:29.960
to Donald Trump's son, Baron Trump Baron with two r's
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00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.880
in the case of Donald Trump's son at the age
764
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he was and exactly how he looked in twenty fifteen
765
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.320
when Trump announced that he was running when his son
766
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.079
Baron was still a little boy, okay, And so that
767
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:49.320
prompted people to go, oh, look at this. The kid's
768
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.599
name is Baron Trump, and he looks just like what's
769
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.320
going on here? And there's other little things in the story. Well,
770
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.800
Lockwood also wrote a novella, it's not a full book,
771
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.079
titled nineteen hundred or the Last President, which in a
772
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:10.559
nutshell when you read it, it's essentially saying, what what
773
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.639
has happened to the United States in the last four
774
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:20.400
years since Biden was president? Okay, And there's some synchronicities
775
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:29.920
pointing to to Trump in the background and things going
776
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.559
on with all the dissension in the division in the
777
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.280
country and stuff. And it ends with a terrorist terrorist
778
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:42.000
act a bomb detonated in the Capitol Building, I think
779
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:49.760
on or around election day, and you know a lot
780
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.840
of people have looked at that and wondered, well, what
781
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.519
is that predicting? Because it already looks like it's seen
782
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.440
the four years of the Biden presidency, and what's this
783
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:03.519
with you know, the baron Trump and what's going on here?
784
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.360
These books were written in the eighteen nineties and essentially
785
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:13.159
lost to history, forgotten about until Trump runs for president
786
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.960
in twenty fifteen and gets elected and somebody notices, hey,
787
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:23.039
wait a minute, what's going on here with this? So I,
788
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:27.199
you know, took a look at it, and you know,
789
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.199
I have my two cents about it out there. But
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00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:36.239
what I suggest is that either Ingersoll Lockwood himself or
791
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:41.840
his illustrator Charles Howard Johnson used some means of looking
792
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:46.199
into the future. Okay, whether it's scrying, using a reflective
793
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.239
surface and kind of get your mind into a particular
794
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.360
alpha zone, or using what we would call today remote viewing,
795
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:58.559
a form of remote viewing, and doing it that way,
796
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.519
you're looking through the of time, right, You're gonna see
797
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.239
things in a way that may not be one hundred
798
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.920
percent clear. So what you might get is a flash
799
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.840
of a face, a name, you hear, a name being mentioned,
800
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:13.519
El Aaron Trump, Baron Trump, a little flash of a face.
801
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:14.599
And so.
802
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:22.159
In trying to present an interpretation of this murky vision
803
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.599
you've had of the future, you know, you end up
804
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.000
writing a story that is not going to get everything right,
805
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.000
but it's going to have those hints, those resonances with
806
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:35.000
the future, like the character's name, like the illustration of
807
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:35.639
how he looks.
808
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:36.639
See.
809
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:42.039
That's one. That's one possibility. The other possibility that I consider,
810
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.039
and that I've discussed in both with Todd Wood in
811
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.239
the ingers Mystery of Ingersol Lockwood book and in my
812
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:56.000
Time travel guide book, the possibility of Charles Howard Johnson
813
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.559
having been a time traveler and he came from our
814
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:02.280
times fully of Trump and Baron Trump and all this stuff,
815
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.519
and went back to the eighteen hundreds, right, and told
816
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.840
Lockwood you know a bit about stuff in the future.
817
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:18.159
And Lockwood, for whatever reason, chose to reflect this knowledge
818
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.239
in this children's story and this you know a much
819
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.800
more I fear prescience story the Last President.
820
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:32.360
Yes, you know, And I just enjoy how aware I've
821
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:38.519
become that our reality is much stranger than most would admit,
822
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:46.480
especially the synchronistic aspects that connect everything. It's really amazing. Now.
823
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:51.920
Final thought, with everything we've discussed today, especially during the
824
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:56.679
first half of the show, with what's been unfolding, I
825
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.679
think it's just like I just said, I think that
826
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:01.719
things have always been in this way. We're becoming more
827
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:06.599
aware that there's some corruption and some fundamental problems with
828
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.519
our ruling class. But with everything that's happened, I wonder
829
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:18.480
if we are going to a better place collectively than
830
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.280
we were from being unaware that if this is all
831
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.480
really a good thing that's unfolded since twenty twenty, we
832
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.480
are seeing sort of this mass awakening, or is it
833
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.400
that we're kind of stuck in these echo chambers because
834
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.239
of technology and social media to where we think a
835
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.280
lot of people are waking up, but we're just being
836
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.559
bounced back to each other. And the only people that
837
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.679
were being shown that are interested in some of these
838
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:49.840
things just based on what the algorithms are feeding them
839
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.559
with social media and things like that. So I wonder
840
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.079
if it's just an echo chamber or if we're having
841
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.280
this really massive awakening right now.
842
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:06.800
It's both anytime. First of all, anytime, you know, nefarious players,
843
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.960
tyrants are exposed. Yeah, that's always a good thing, no
844
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.559
matter what you have to go through to overcome them.
845
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:18.519
That's always a good thing. Always good to overcome tyrants.
846
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:20.880
But there is.
847
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.920
Also a lot of echo chamber stuff going on at
848
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.519
the same time. See, that's the thing. So many people
849
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.559
want to say, it's got to be this one thing. No,
850
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.400
it can't be that, it's got to be this model
851
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:36.400
over here. Oh, it's multiple models going on, folks. It's
852
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.440
it's multiple. There are people who have figured it out.
853
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:45.079
There's even more people who don't know crap about what
854
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:48.880
they're talking about, and they think they've got it figured out. Unfortunately,
855
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.920
those people sometimes get the louder voices, the bigger megaphone.
856
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.079
You know, they can lead you know, people in the
857
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:59.719
wrong direction, you know, and they think they're right. But
858
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.880
there are people who have figured it out maybe, and
859
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.320
I would say a lot of them don't talk, They
860
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:13.480
don't talk about it. Not everybody wants to be famous.
861
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.280
Not everybody wants to be the guy who knows. We
862
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.599
have way too much of that in our community. I
863
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:25.039
think sometimes are our little world of uf and no
864
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:31.760
UFO's conspiracy and parentormal stuff, you know, alternative research rather
865
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.880
than just focusing on what is the possible truth, what
866
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:37.280
are the possibilities?
867
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:38.440
You know.
868
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.159
But I do think that all these things that you're
869
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:50.079
talking about are going on. There are things that aren't
870
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:53.159
what people are building them up to be. There are
871
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.280
things that are what people are concerned that they are. Okay,
872
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:05.039
there are people that are pulling strings to do bad
873
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:09.360
things to us, to manipulate us and control us. But
874
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.360
it's not always in the places people think it is,
875
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.719
and it's not always exactly the way they think it is,
876
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.800
you know what I'm saying it. So you you you
877
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.519
have to be open to all possibilities and aware of
878
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.519
all possibilities out there, okay, but you can't let yourself
879
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:33.039
get so paranoid that you're unable to function, that you're
880
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:38.239
unable to maneuver when you have to. So you know
881
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.039
that that would be my best advice for you know,
882
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.239
getting getting through these times. And and also I was
883
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.480
listening to Tino Struckman and Joseph Ferrell talking the other day,
884
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.320
and you know, Joseph have said something interesting. You know,
885
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.519
there's knowing what you're willing to kill for, but you
886
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:58.440
also got to know what you're willing to die for,
887
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.960
and that's in our times. That's part of the equation.
888
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.440
Is knowing where that line is.
889
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:14.320
Yeah, this is because good We're we're going to face
890
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.880
one of those tumultuous, politically tumultuous, you know times. There's
891
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.480
a lot of people that talk about this like they
892
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:22.840
like it. We've got too many people that have grown
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01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:26.599
up on dystopian movies and literature and TV and stuff,
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01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.159
and they have this romantic view of what that would
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be like. You know, it's same with people that want
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01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:35.079
war that kind of thing. Well, I'll tell you what
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01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.400
a lot of those people, the first time they have
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01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.679
their as depicted in saving Private Ryan, their their realistic experience,
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01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.719
you know, the d DA Beach, they're not going to
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01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.320
think it's so romantic anymore when they see what it
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01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.840
what it really entails. And my point is sometimes those
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01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:57.159
fights have to be done, but just know, really know
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01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:03.599
what you're getting into. And it might be that, you know,
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01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.280
some desperate action is the only way we can stop
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01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:11.360
the tyrants. But we'll just have to see.
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01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.239
Yeah, we are in very fascinating times. Walter, Thank you
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01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.440
so much. This was great information. Before you go For
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01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:22.320
those that want to find out more about you and
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01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.079
pick up some books, what's the best way for them
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01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:25.360
to do.
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01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:30.639
So, go to Walter Bosley dot com. All my books
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01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.440
are there, including the new One Time Travel guide book,
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01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.679
which you guys might find real interesting and it's it's
914
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.760
you can have fun with it or you can try it,
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01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.719
you know. But Walter Bosley dot com is the place,
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01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.159
and I have a live stream every Wednesday at three
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01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:50.679
pm Pacific time, you know. Come check it out at
918
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.679
the Walter Bosley channel at youtubet.
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01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.199
Walter. Thank you so much. We'll definitely be doing this
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01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.280
again in the future. And until next time, everyone, have
921
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.559
a wonderful evening. We'll talk talk again tomorrow. We'll see
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01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:10.480
all then. Today my guest is Barry Lyttleton. He was
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01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.039
born awake with fragmented past life memories, and he began
924
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.960
having paranormal experiences at a very young age. These experiences
925
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:25.480
included telepathic awareness, seeing or feeling ghosts, and various inorganic beings.
926
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.880
These encounters, and some of the entities themselves, had a
927
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.519
distinct extraterrestrial origin. These unusual encounters led him to a
928
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.639
lifetime of research and exploration into both the metaphysical and
929
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.360
paranormal fields. For the last twenty two years, he has
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01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:47.840
worked with at risk youth and juvenile offenders. By utilizing
931
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:54.519
the cognitive behavioral approach, he hopes to unite extraterrestrial contactes
932
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.960
with similar encounters interest and cross the racial color barrier
933
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:02.880
that seems to exist within the field. Since coming forward,
934
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.320
he has had the pleasure of meeting awaken people from
935
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:10.000
across the globe. Berry welcome back and how you doing.
936
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:12.639
I'm good, Chris, how are you doing. Thank you for
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01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:13.840
having me. I'm honored.
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01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.199
Yeah, Matt, it's great to talk to you again. It's
939
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.000
been way too long. And man, I love having guests
940
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:24.840
with experience like yourself, especially with such profound experiences, because
941
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:28.719
it gives the audience an inside look at what occurs
942
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:33.119
during some of these contact experiences. And over the past
943
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.800
couple of years, it seems as this topic has become
944
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.280
a lot more popular. And of course we're hearing about
945
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.880
UFOs from the media and Pentagon, which I personally believe
946
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.840
is a disinformation campaign of some sort, but that's a
947
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:51.679
completely different show. But I think it's I think it's
948
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.360
super important that we get the inside look from people
949
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.320
who have experience this phenomenon, because that's where we're going
950
01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.920
to get the truth from. That's where we're gonna find
951
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.440
doubt what is really going on with this from people
952
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:07.000
like yourself who've experienced it. Now, like I said, it's
953
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.920
been a while since we've had you on the other show,
954
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.280
could you remind the audience a little bit about how
955
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:14.480
this all started for you?
956
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:19.239
Sure, I started having experiences when I was a kid,
957
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:22.119
I think is so common for a lot of people
958
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:26.880
that are contactes or experiencers. And that started with, you know,
959
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000
kind of waking up not in my bed and some
960
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:32.039
type of a room where we were doing things with
961
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.039
our mind and it was kind of like telepathic exercises
962
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:40.559
and psychokinetic exercises. And then not long after that, a
963
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.199
year or two later, now I started getting visited by
964
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.559
this individual who I thought was a kid at first,
965
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:49.400
and then I started and then I saw him on
966
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.199
a craft in about the sixth grade. So this kind
967
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:55.920
of advanced, And especially when I say that, because it's
968
01:07:55.960 --> 01:08:00.320
the physical experiences and having meet somebody that has physical
969
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.280
like that, and then going on and graduated to what
970
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.639
I call adult adult onset experiences because I kind of
971
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:10.159
had a laying time where not much happened between about
972
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.159
the ages of thirteen to about seventeen, and then it
973
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.520
picked back up again and again these are physical encounters
974
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.880
I'm talking about. And then that went on for years
975
01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:21.760
after that, and it kind of slowed down when I
976
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.119
was run around twenty eight thirty. And now it's like
977
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.399
more of a telethought communication. Now that goes on and
978
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.319
I'll always see craft or wake up on craft or
979
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.720
have them just zoom them up on me, and then
980
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.279
losing hours of time like what happened before. You know,
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01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:39.880
it's one thing, you know, And that's why I say that.
982
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.479
I mean this no offense to anybody, but I know
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01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:46.159
CE five or whatever it's called, it's really big right now.
984
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.680
Calling in craft and people will tell you that they're
985
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.720
all experts, and oh that's Pleadians. Those are Syrians, and
986
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:55.520
we don't really know who's on those craft. And be
987
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:59.960
very careful because when those craft come too close and sudden,
988
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.079
you're missing you know, hours of time, four or five
989
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:05.680
hours of your life, and you know you've been in
990
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.640
contact with something. You can still see it, you can
991
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.680
see the beings, you can see the technology, but the
992
01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.920
longer year away from the event horizon, the more it
993
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.119
starts to fade, the retention of memory fades. I think
994
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:22.479
that's quite common amongst contact to these experiencers, and that's
995
01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:24.479
why a lot of this occurs in the dream state
996
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.000
where we're halfway between them and us, where we can
997
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.720
have this this medium, I think, and then you don't
998
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:32.479
get as sick as I was in physical encounters because
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01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.520
it's a different environment on board that craft. So you know,
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01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.680
it's just food for thought if nothing else, you know
1001
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:44.079
what I mean. But there's a definite difference there in
1002
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:48.920
terms of astral experiences versus versus physical I'd had those two,
1003
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.960
and I'm not discrediting anybody that has those because for
1004
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.000
that reason, you won't get that sickness. You're in an
1005
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:59.279
energy body. It doesn't conform to the same physical parameters
1006
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.760
that this body. He does so physical laws that this
1007
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.039
body does, So it's easier to meet them halfway, especially
1008
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.600
if you're dealing with beings for another galaxy or another
1009
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.840
universe or dimension. How much can they do a pattern
1010
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.479
of unfoldment into the third dimension here to meet us.
1011
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.199
So it takes some different things that start going on
1012
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.039
on board some of these craft and something that leads
1013
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:23.319
to what they have put in my mind. It's a
1014
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:26.920
temple aphasia. It's a sickness that you I think I
1015
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.439
talked about this last time we were on your other show.
1016
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:32.760
It's a sickness that comes on the craft that it
1017
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.079
feels like being on a Merry Go Round or maybe seasick,
1018
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.279
but more than that, because it's hard to breathe in
1019
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.680
there to a degree, it's a little slightly different. It
1020
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.319
smelled to me like wind decks most of these craft do,
1021
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.720
and in at least for me, they and then that
1022
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:48.439
kind of makes it hard. You're getting telepathy bombarded, and
1023
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.439
that's because I was there physically, you know. But if
1024
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.319
I say, like, for say, the first experience I had
1025
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.960
when I was seventeen, and I'm seeing other people on
1026
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.760
this deck of this craft and they're kind of translucent,
1027
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.039
like some of the beings themselves are translucent, which means
1028
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.159
they're in their dream body and they're going to the
1029
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:10.720
edge of this deck and touching the light that comes
1030
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.840
off this engine, the living light, you know what I mean.
1031
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:16.359
And that's a whole other thing we can go into
1032
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.840
later about really what these engines are, how some of
1033
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.720
them were built over what we call makos or black holes,
1034
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.119
and really what they are, at least the ones I've
1035
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:27.840
been on board. So I don't want to go too
1036
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.079
far on any one side, but that's the way my
1037
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.399
experience has started. They started in childhood and they went
1038
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.159
on into adulthood, and I spent a lifetime trying to
1039
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.800
understand them because they weren't negative. And I know right
1040
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.000
now a hot topic is people in the SSP and
1041
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:43.840
what's happened to them and have a lot of trauma
1042
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.479
going on there, and I feel for those people and
1043
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:48.680
I'm actually trying to communicate with more of them. But
1044
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.880
my experiences weren't like that. They weren't government related, they
1045
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:56.239
weren't negative, they weren't sexual, they weren't attacks, nothing like that.
1046
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.079
I think I am a large part of the population
1047
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.960
that actually has had positive contact, but nobody's talking about it.
1048
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.920
That's just starting out people like you. So I'm honored
1049
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:06.319
to be here.
1050
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.920
Yeah, definitely, and I'm glad that people like yourself are
1051
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:12.760
talking about these experiences.
1052
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:13.000
Now.
1053
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.279
It's important to get all sides, you know. I'm sure
1054
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.039
those negative experiences do occur, and they're very traumatic for
1055
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.880
the individuals like you're talking about in the secret space program.
1056
01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:25.920
But these amazing, beautiful experiences occur too. And I you know,
1057
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.199
since we had our conference that you you were a
1058
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.760
presenter at a couple of years ago, I had an
1059
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:36.039
experience myself which was a very profound and beautiful experience too.
1060
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:39.399
So yeah, it's it's all part of this, and I
1061
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:43.720
think it's very important. Now, when did you know? When
1062
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.000
did you come to an understanding this was extraterrestrials and
1063
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.840
not something like you know. I mean, I think even
1064
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.640
though paranormal and ghosts are connected in some way to
1065
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.920
this this phenomenon, I don't know if it's the exact
1066
01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.319
same thing, but when did you know that you were
1067
01:12:58.359 --> 01:12:59.880
dealing with maybe off planet.
1068
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.640
Well, there's experience that happened, and it's on my YouTube
1069
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.399
channel too. Actually did a video over it, but it's
1070
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.359
called I call it the acid Rain experience. I was
1071
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.560
in the sixth grade and I had woke up. But
1072
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.359
I don't sleep good, especially since those experiences since childhood.
1073
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.840
I don't stick very good. But I woke up on
1074
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.800
this craft and this is a physical craft. I'm on
1075
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:25.039
board and there's like a monitor there and I'm on
1076
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.880
this deck and there's a being floating kind of over
1077
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:33.000
the deck plates to the right, and it's this being
1078
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.760
that had come to my It just interacted with me
1079
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:37.600
a few times when I was at my house playing.
1080
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:39.840
He'd come up and played with me, and he was
1081
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.119
seen by some other people. So that tells you kind
1082
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.359
of what these beings can do to us on the
1083
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:48.880
conscious level optically, what they can do through our optic
1084
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.600
nerves and make themselves a fear a way that they
1085
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.199
may not be, not just virtual reality, but through the
1086
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.439
optical nerves. So it's a conscious deal, you know what
1087
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.960
I mean. Because I didn't pursue see for whatever reason,
1088
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:03.760
I didn't perceive him the same way that I did
1089
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:07.520
on this craft. This being floated floating over the deck
1090
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:11.239
plates wasn't in stctoid, and I wanted to be very
1091
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:17.840
specific about something. This was not a manted. Okay, the
1092
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.520
mantids are the things like that, and they're very commonly reported.
1093
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.640
This being looked more like a grasshopper with limbs that
1094
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:29.479
were a little bit more purported, were humanly purported, And
1095
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.760
it's a little bigger than I was. This being was
1096
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:35.479
than at that age then, So this was not your
1097
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:40.199
typical manted right and automatically. This being is giving me
1098
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:47.840
answers to my questions telepathically before I conformed them, and
1099
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.560
when I had encountered him before, like let's say, on
1100
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.000
the curve when I'm playing, he was talking telepathically too.
1101
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.439
When I didn't realize everybody, every kid couldn't do it,
1102
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.960
you know what I mean. I thought most just didn't.
1103
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.640
But he was telepathically communicating. But it was more normal,
1104
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.920
you know, back and forth, as opposed to on this craft.
1105
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.159
He was anticipating what I was about to ask and
1106
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.760
answering it before I could formulate the questions telepathically. That's
1107
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.079
a little disturbing, you know what I mean. But one
1108
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.279
of those questions is where are you from? What the
1109
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:26.800
hell do you want? I mean, let's keep it real, okay,
1110
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:31.520
because when you're in the presence of a non human okay, seriously,
1111
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.439
what is it like? There's a lot of nerves that
1112
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.680
go on fear, but there's something about the vibration that
1113
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.920
he was omitting that and also to somebody I knew
1114
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.199
that i'd played with, like let's say, outside of my
1115
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:45.439
front of my house and my brother's washing his car.
1116
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.920
I was trying to make these little mud dams on
1117
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.000
the curb to stuff the water from flowing, like it's
1118
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:54.399
gonna flood the world or something. And this individual came up,
1119
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:56.479
rode up on a bike and played with me and
1120
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.840
helped me make the dams, you know what I mean.
1121
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.880
And then for a little while my brother had seen him,
1122
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:03.880
you know, I wasn't unsupervised. And then he took off,
1123
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:05.479
and I'd ask, like, where are you from? You don't
1124
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.319
go to my school, you go to the other one
1125
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:10.039
over across the creek. And he's no, I'm just here
1126
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:14.000
a visiting family. He knows what he says telepathically. And
1127
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.560
this individual had on a hat and some odd like
1128
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:22.039
kitty cat sunglasses, so they looked he looked a little odd,
1129
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.359
especially now as an ADULTO will tell you somebody that
1130
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.960
is not around people a lot slightly off. But yet
1131
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.039
I wasn't perceiving him the way I perceived him on
1132
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:34.439
this craft as an insectoid, see what I mean, in
1133
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:39.560
this uniform, definitely uniform that felt ancient and more scientific.
1134
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:43.600
This persona felt you know. So my question was going
1135
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:46.439
to be where are you from? And he says, you
1136
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.760
want to understand now at that age, I thought I
1137
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:52.159
was very heavy because I was watching some Doctor Who
1138
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.399
and some Star Treks. I was like, oh, yeah, lay
1139
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.680
it on me. You know he says, go nine hundred
1140
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:04.000
million light years out beyond the exospace time continuum. Well
1141
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.600
that's right. I didn't know what that meant. So the
1142
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:10.880
next thing comes through is start you don't understand that,
1143
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:15.600
start with the third and fourth planets past Pluto their
1144
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.520
basis for us to jump off of to go into
1145
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:22.039
your solar system to deal with the density. And at
1146
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.159
that time, I'm thinking, you know, even prematurely, am I
1147
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.039
being deceived because that was a long time ago and
1148
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:31.399
there was no I don't even know if Cheron tiring
1149
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:35.359
the Pluto's moon have been found yet, so there was
1150
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.520
nothing else. Then go fast forward, I'm in my early
1151
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:42.920
thirties in my office and they find something called they
1152
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:48.359
discover something trans Neptunian Objects, which is another Kuiper belt
1153
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.960
just outside of Pluto there like expanding there, and they
1154
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.840
found several objects that are almost planetoids, and they've even
1155
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.439
named them. And I'm thinking, Lord, that's the exactly what
1156
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:01.800
individual was talking about. But anyway, going back to this
1157
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:06.479
this acid rain experience, all right, I can see through
1158
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:11.600
this this monitor several other craft, like two others, and
1159
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.119
it looks like they're sucking stuff up under them or something.
1160
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.439
It's like an odd light a meeting out of them too.
1161
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.520
And we're over this like what looked like a snow
1162
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.560
a snow cat was a snow snow snow range of
1163
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:26.920
some type mountain range unaware, you know what I mean.
1164
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:29.279
But I'm not seeing anything like that, so I thought
1165
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:31.920
it was quite beautiful. But these things are sucking that up.
1166
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:35.199
And he's telepathically telling me we're trying to battle and
1167
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:37.479
help with the acid rain. The acid rains are very
1168
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:40.880
bad for your planet. And then he also went into
1169
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.079
some of the metals that were in the atmosphere and
1170
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.439
reasons why that's one of the densities. They won't come
1171
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.960
out those craft too often, you know. So I'm picking
1172
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:53.920
that up quite a bit. And that fact microwaves and
1173
01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:57.199
metals in the atmosphere, I call it the eminem effect.
1174
01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.840
So that's what he was living to. But anyway, as
1175
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.560
I never heard of that, all right, And you know,
1176
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.439
it's so much this wondering what's going on and trying
1177
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:09.960
to make sure you're not being deceived. About a week
1178
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:15.840
later in class, I'm have. The teacher is sixth grade.
1179
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.920
The teacher had us read this thing called the Scholastic News,
1180
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:24.000
and each Friday, somebody, lucky person got to stand up
1181
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:26.479
there and read the main article. And this one I
1182
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.399
got SHOs And this one was about the Statue of Liberty.
1183
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.840
That year they had closed it down because they were
1184
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:37.279
at least parts of it anyway, because they were repainting
1185
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:41.399
it and repairing it from damaged caused by acid rain.
1186
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.119
And that's you know, when I heard that turn read,
1187
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.479
I remember screaming it out a little bit. Everybody laughed
1188
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:48.279
like it was a joke, but it was because it
1189
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.920
had crossed over from what to me were physical night
1190
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:56.479
experiences to my day life. Definitely. And there's no way
1191
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:58.319
I could prove any of that, but I mean, that's
1192
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.000
what happened. So that's the first thing that had told
1193
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:04.760
me that what I was experiencing was definitely real. You
1194
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.000
know what I mean, You think it is, but until
1195
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:12.600
certain things across into your daily consciousness and until you start,
1196
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:17.079
for me, scientific you know, discoveries, to start backing up
1197
01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:21.359
what I found out years ago as a kid, you
1198
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:22.960
know those things that you can't.
1199
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:26.279
Yeah, that's really interesting and I want to speak to you.
1200
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.359
I want to speak to the telepathic communication. In my
1201
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.159
experience that I had, it was the same exact thing,
1202
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.600
like before I could even finish asking a question, the
1203
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.319
answer would be projected in my mind. It was like
1204
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:42.680
a kind of like a mix of image and emotion
1205
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.560
to portray language. And it was instantaneous, like before you know,
1206
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:49.840
before I could even finish the whatever I'm asking or communicating.
1207
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.279
And it was also associated by this beautiful feeling of
1208
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:57.159
like love and unconditional acceptance.
1209
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:57.960
And just it was.
1210
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.279
It was amazing. It was a great experience, and so
1211
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.800
I can I can definitely attest to that telepathic communication thing.
1212
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.880
It's it's it's wonderful. And I even told the being
1213
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:07.680
was like, this is a great way to communicate.
1214
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:12.520
Man. Yeah, you know, you know, you know when when
1215
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.760
when saying that and knowing that you've experienced that does
1216
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:20.199
doesn't make it kind of why, you know, somehow humanity
1217
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:24.039
doesn't exercise the communication of telepathy and it's dismissed as
1218
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:28.439
folklore because then we don't we can't hide stuff, you
1219
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:29.800
know what I mean. We're gonna be a living more
1220
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:35.439
like bulth kids. We're gonna be more logical. Man. That's
1221
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:37.319
cool though, you know, real quick. I don't want to
1222
01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:40.199
take us off subject or topic, but that that type
1223
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.319
of telepathy that comes through the star beings is so strong,
1224
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:44.600
you know what I mean, especially when you're in the
1225
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.359
presence of one. I've been in different ones, like the
1226
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:49.600
mother of the hybrids I called her. She was so
1227
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:53.680
telepathically strongly it seemed like she picked up my energy
1228
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.520
body and levitated it towards her as I'm there, like
1229
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:02.119
she by located me in her presence. That is serious consciousness. Man.
1230
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.760
I don't know anybody here that could do that, you know,
1231
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.960
but I think that's one thing that's really really important
1232
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.239
when dealing with that now, something that I'll just stow
1233
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.520
this in there. Right when I had went and spoke
1234
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:21.319
at that at SETI Ranch three years twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
1235
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:25.199
and twenty nineteen, and in twenty sixteen I had a
1236
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:28.119
major's experiences out there. I mean, I thought I was
1237
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:29.880
at a point in my life, not a young cat,
1238
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:33.279
that these things that just stopped my world, these experiences
1239
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.680
to stop my world. I thought they were past me
1240
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.199
until I went out there. You know, I got blasted.
1241
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.199
But one of them was the stosquatched thing or whatever's
1242
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.520
going on out there. Man. And one night I'm coming
1243
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:47.319
back and I can't sleep, so I go out about
1244
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:50.119
three am, and I watched the UFOs come off the
1245
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.000
mountain and everything, and then go back about sunset, which
1246
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.920
is right around four thirty up there, and then the
1247
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.600
feeling of being watched Chris from those trees out there.
1248
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:01.079
And I had to walk as this chicken coop to
1249
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:01.720
go down there.
1250
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:03.039
You know, I just had it.
1251
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:04.520
I turned off the light, I said, you know, I
1252
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.319
said to verbally, I threw it out telepathically. I said, look,
1253
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:09.520
I'm from the Midwest, and I said, I want to
1254
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.319
have these encounters. But the truth is that if one
1255
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:14.560
of you steps out of the trees on me and
1256
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:18.399
you're seven eight feet tall, it's gonna I'm gonna freak out.
1257
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:21.600
So just I'm freak that out, excuse me, So just
1258
01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.600
don't do it, all right? And I looked I looked
1259
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:26.680
like a total idiot that I was standing with the flashlight,
1260
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:30.560
you know, talking to myself and mentally doing it. So
1261
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.720
I go downstairs, sit in this yer, this cabin, and
1262
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.199
I'm sitting on the edge of this cabin maybe five
1263
01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:39.560
minutes later before I can fall asleep, I get hit
1264
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:44.479
with this telethought and Chris, it's so strong, and it's
1265
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.279
things saying it's coming with. I'm getting words one thing,
1266
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:53.960
English words, but also the pictures the telethought, and I'm
1267
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.520
getting things like it's illegal for y'all to be seen
1268
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.720
by us anyway, so don't worry about that. And their
1269
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:03.680
name was Elder, and I don't have a limp, and
1270
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:08.600
I'm getting pictured in my mind a sasquatch, like eleven
1271
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.800
foot albino sasquatch doing a backflip like David Lee Roth
1272
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.199
in the Jump video. In the video at the very
1273
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.000
end of that video, he just does a backflip for
1274
01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.239
no reason, like a digit or something. Yeah, it was
1275
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:22.279
like a backflip like that. And that sounds so ridiculous
1276
01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:23.800
to me telling you that, but I swear that's what
1277
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:29.640
I got. And then several things were relayed quickly, and
1278
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.039
then the channel was cut off and I'm sitting on
1279
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.600
the edge of my bed there trying to trying to
1280
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.119
force myself through like a Tomorrow person or something, and
1281
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.439
you know, it didn't work. Whatever that was, it was
1282
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:46.960
a much stronger telepath than I It certainly didn't feel
1283
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:50.039
like an ape. Okay, I've been to the zoo. There's
1284
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:55.239
no telepathic communication from the gorillas there. They're cool to observe.
1285
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:58.279
But this was something else. Do I know it was sasquatch. No,
1286
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:03.359
but if not, it's connecting yourself with that phenomenon definitely,
1287
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:04.479
And I'll leave it there.
1288
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:08.680
Oh man, you actually brought up something super interesting because
1289
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.560
I've been kind of looking into sasquatching bigfoot and having
1290
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.239
guests on that are Sasquatch bigfoot researchers, and this is
1291
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:18.960
so fascinating because this is not, like you said, just
1292
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:22.279
some probably lost hominid or something like that. This is
1293
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:26.039
something much more. These beings have capabilities that we can't
1294
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:29.680
even imagine, according to some of the testimony and stories
1295
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.520
that I've heard from some of these researchers, and highly
1296
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:37.880
highly intelligent, like something extraterrestrial maybe possibly, or something that's
1297
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:41.319
been here the whole time that has, you know, had
1298
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.359
high intelligence or advanced capabilities that we just don't understand.
1299
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:49.039
I don't know, you know, I just did an interview
1300
01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:52.760
with a lady named Jessica Jones. She's really cool, and
1301
01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.199
I met her at this conference I did about a
1302
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.000
year ago the STARC conference. I think that's where I
1303
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.640
met you, but it wasn't. Sorry, but she's a researcher
1304
01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:03.600
on like three different teams and she goes out there.
1305
01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:06.439
They got equipment and they go, you know, on site
1306
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.199
to these places and just do all this field of investigation.
1307
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.039
And I had mentioned something she took interest in, that
1308
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:19.680
Fred Beck, the Ape Canyon, the Ape Canyon encounter where
1309
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.880
they're throwing the sasquatch or throwing the rocks at the
1310
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:24.239
cabin and everything. You know, we're left to think that
1311
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:27.359
that's kind of just all that was. But the truth
1312
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.640
is that guy fred Beck that shot one had talked,
1313
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:32.520
he read, He wrote a quick book that's like The
1314
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:38.399
I Fought the Eight Men of Mount Saint Helens is
1315
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:40.279
the name of it, and it's a very quick, little
1316
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:44.760
little pamphlet. But you know, he called them manifested beings.
1317
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.279
He said that there was a very definitely spiritual factor
1318
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.720
to the paranormal factor to them. Everybody involved in that thought, well,
1319
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.319
I thought that they would never shoot one, they'll never
1320
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:59.359
catch one or anything like that, because they're manifested beings.
1321
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.520
Some of these tracks just disappear in the middle fields.
1322
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.800
And to go seem to go from nowhere fascinating, you
1323
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.159
know what I mean, And just the thought of manifesting
1324
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.800
beings that they can actually when they're in the presence
1325
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:16.680
of the morphrginic field of people. Then they become third dimensional.
1326
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:20.600
They start manifesting, and during that time they have to
1327
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:25.600
actually conform to all physical parameters that would be living, scat, eating,
1328
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.840
all the things we do until whatever happens they get
1329
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:32.000
more away from people or people, aren't there something that
1330
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:36.760
they become non physical again, it's just fascinating. If nothing else,
1331
01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:39.399
it's tough for the mind because there's something going on
1332
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.560
there and we can't just come from the the ape camp.
1333
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:45.760
But there's so many different types of Sasquatch. I don't
1334
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.000
know where that begins and ends, you know, food for
1335
01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.439
thought of nothing else for sure.
1336
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:53.119
And along those same lines of these mixing of phenomenon,
1337
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.920
you look at places like skin Walk or Ranch now
1338
01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.800
they have this the meadow place, even you know Mount Shasta,
1339
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:04.880
like Gillian's Ranch, like you were talking about. All these
1340
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:11.560
different places are just like hubs of paranormal activity and
1341
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.520
extraterrestrial phenomenon. And it makes me wonder if it's the
1342
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.680
energy in the area, or if they're attracted to something,
1343
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.359
or if there's something else going on that causes this
1344
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:25.439
concentration of activity there.
1345
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.159
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Boy, you're
1346
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.640
taking this a different way. Help cool man, Okay? So
1347
01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:33.239
I got so blown away the first year I spoke
1348
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.960
out there, in twenty sixteen. Before I went in twenty seventeen,
1349
01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:40.920
I did a professional regression for strictly what happened to
1350
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.079
me out there. I had to know more what I
1351
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:48.279
was dealing with, all right, And something I saw in
1352
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.319
this regression was this, I had a feeling I had
1353
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:53.479
been in the mountain a little. I slept like I
1354
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.920
was inside that mountain or something. So I during the
1355
01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:03.199
regression I described this the this crystalline mercabah type of
1356
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:11.560
device inside that mountain that's actually scanning people's life memories
1357
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.760
like this life and then it will produce an orb
1358
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.399
of some type that gets in your energy field and
1359
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:22.159
does something to take your consciousness forward. And that's results
1360
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.960
in people seeing sasquatch out there disappearing in the field.
1361
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:27.960
How many times have you heard that, you know what,
1362
01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:32.159
especially at that place, or seeing certain UFOs or things
1363
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.600
like that. I think that's what. There's everybody that has
1364
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:37.560
something happen to them, you know, they have something happened
1365
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.600
and it takes their consciousness forward. So okay, fast forward
1366
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.560
that two years from this, and this just before I
1367
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.479
met him as a gentleman, John Ravinko, that did a
1368
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:52.760
video called remote Viewing the Ancient Aliens of the Asseti Ranch.
1369
01:29:53.880 --> 01:30:00.680
And during this video, his team described this device inside
1370
01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:04.880
the mountainous crystalline device what I had seen two years previous.
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01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.760
So I couldn't wait to meet him and discuss that
1372
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:11.000
and condensing this for people quickly and probably get off
1373
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:14.960
this topic. But there is a book called The Keys
1374
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:18.479
of Enoch by JJ Hirtok and I did a video
1375
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:20.800
about this while I was out on the ranch with
1376
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:25.079
John Ravinco and it's on my YouTube channel under playlist
1377
01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:27.800
as Seti Ranch. It's a video. We're sitting on the
1378
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.840
couch talking. But there's a book called the Keys of
1379
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:34.560
Enoch by JJ Hirtalk and in that book there is
1380
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:45.479
a device they described called and U or sorry sorry
1381
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:48.760
losing the name of right now, or station sorry forgive
1382
01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:52.680
me sorry or station o R station after group rhetoric
1383
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:56.359
group called the benign or I believe. But anyway, they
1384
01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:59.000
described this device, and they even in the back of
1385
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:00.800
that book in the glass they have it. You can
1386
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:03.760
look it up there. I given that video the number
1387
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.960
the pages it's on, and they actually show this device.
1388
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:09.800
They've got a schematic of it on there or just
1389
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.880
an illustration, and they say what it does and how
1390
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:17.000
it does it, and that's fascinating. So that taking a
1391
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.159
step forward, all right? That year, on twenty nineteen, I
1392
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:24.199
went out there. It was different. We had to lead SkyWatch.
1393
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.680
All right, where's that twenty seventeen one of those? Either way,
1394
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.640
you had to lead a SkyWatch. Look, no offense to anybody,
1395
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.920
It's just not my thing because when the ships come
1396
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.760
too close and you lose time, it's hard to suddenly
1397
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:39.640
blend back into society. It f's with your life, I'm sorry,
1398
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:42.600
messes with your life, your life, you know. So I
1399
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:44.239
get a little bit nervous, you know. But this this
1400
01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.680
deal here, what I did was since I had to
1401
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:53.560
lead one fun fun first ever, but I did an experience.
1402
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:59.159
I did a pineal gland exercise to some partiyama. And
1403
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:01.279
it's a good one, right, the most powerful one I've
1404
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:03.920
ever used. And what's cool is You've got about one
1405
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.039
hundred people there in the room, you know that are
1406
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.119
all A lot of them are psychics, mediums at these
1407
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:12.720
at these conventions, the attendees are really the special people.
1408
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:14.960
But they all do this. Once I got over the
1409
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:17.279
how weird this looks, and do it and have everybody
1410
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:22.119
do it. So many people, Chris start saying the same thing,
1411
01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:26.520
especially the strongest psychics of the room. You're saying, I'm
1412
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:29.880
seeing this grid. I'm seeing a grid looks like a
1413
01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:33.640
tictap toe board. Several of them kept saying it, and
1414
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:38.039
immediately I knew it's this device. It's this device scanning
1415
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:42.119
people whatever. How more the radius of it is, you know,
1416
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.199
and just anyway, I'll leave that alone. Just anybody look
1417
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.079
on my channel, look at that video and that order station.
1418
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:50.640
And the thing is, I think certain people like us
1419
01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:55.880
with certain DNA, certain energy, certain blood whatever, man, you know,
1420
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:01.159
it actually opens these these it activates these device and
1421
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:03.760
consciously I leave. That's what happens. And you know, it's
1422
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.319
a matter of how many of these devices, because I
1423
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:08.319
think they're from when we were a type one civilization,
1424
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.520
Type two, even in the past Earth was that was here.
1425
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:14.239
We still have many things that these devices, how many
1426
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.520
of them on Earth are still functioning. Maybe there's one
1427
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.000
at Caligash, maybe there's one at Mount Shasta, you know,
1428
01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:24.279
I mean, I don't know, food for thought, nothing that
1429
01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:24.840
is so.
1430
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.359
And that kind of kind of leads me to think
1431
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:32.119
about a conversation that I was having with a couple
1432
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:36.399
of other UFO researchers in the past month about the
1433
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:40.600
possibility of what kind of energy these craft are using
1434
01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:44.560
and the effects it has on the environment of wherever
1435
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:49.159
it's landing. Like, I heard a story of a man
1436
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:53.760
who had a farm and he'd have craft land near
1437
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.520
his form. Often he'd see them, they'd be you know,
1438
01:33:56.640 --> 01:34:00.520
they'd actually mess with or mutilate his cattle. But when
1439
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:04.479
they'd be appearing, he'd also have strange paranormal activity start
1440
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.800
happening in his house. He'd have like poltergeist and stuff.
1441
01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:10.520
And then whenever they they'd leave, this this kind of
1442
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.119
energy residue would stay around for a few days and
1443
01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:16.319
then go back to normal, which I find very interesting
1444
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:18.840
those kind of connections. Any thoughts on that.
1445
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.880
Yeah, you know, the energy that I've seen on boarder craft,
1446
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:26.159
they've called it a few things. One of them is
1447
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.560
they've called it living light. They've called it a g
1448
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:32.479
l E before, and it's normally a gold and a
1449
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:37.439
deep golden color that I've seen, and it is life energy.
1450
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.800
And when I say that it's the same as Prana
1451
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:45.359
t oregone, it's it's all the same, but it's it's
1452
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:49.439
some type of a creator consciousness that they've been able
1453
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:52.760
to polarize and use as energy. And it's in a
1454
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:55.520
light form that that I can say, and I've seen
1455
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.319
that this is I can only speak Chris for the
1456
01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.159
craft I've been on board, okay, but that's something I've
1457
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.479
seen being used by several engines. One of the engines
1458
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:06.359
I've seen it looked like what's called now a bucket
1459
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:11.920
ball or a like a gyrosphere, and it had, you know,
1460
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.640
and it made me kind of going into the honeycomb conjecture.
1461
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.479
Why did why did the why do the bees use
1462
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:21.000
that that hexagon to store energy? You know? And this
1463
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.520
is way before, this is what happened to me. Then again,
1464
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.039
you know, when I was a teenager, I saw this
1465
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:29.039
and so it's something that you know, it never went away,
1466
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.119
but now I know that what that is is one
1467
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:34.560
form or sometimes you see these cubes that are on
1468
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.079
these craft also, and it becomes if you're dealing really
1469
01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:43.199
truly with beings from another universe, entities from another universe
1470
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:45.840
that are coming through, okay, that you're dealing with not
1471
01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.840
just another galaxy, not just pleades from another universe. And
1472
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:54.159
this universe is built on the spin, is based on
1473
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:57.520
the spin. All the way from our basic atoms all
1474
01:35:57.560 --> 01:36:00.079
the way to the galaxies are on the spin in
1475
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.119
the spiral. That's one of the main ways this universe
1476
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:05.840
is formed. So a different universe, what if they're using
1477
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:09.439
something like the score is based on the cube or
1478
01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.920
the pyramid, or amorphous metals or something like that, So
1479
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.199
then they have to come through a pattern of unfullman
1480
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.079
to deal with us here, okay, and what shapes can
1481
01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:25.039
they use that could transfer this like life energy, this
1482
01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.960
this this, this this living light from one universe to
1483
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:33.560
the other. These these these cubes are one the way
1484
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.079
the other one. I just described this, this buckety ball
1485
01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:38.279
that was in this type of a I called it
1486
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:40.199
an engine, but the truth is I think it's more
1487
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:44.359
of a brain in reality, you know, brain energy source.
1488
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:46.359
And that's also why a lot of these crafts, a
1489
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:48.880
lot of us have been on email has been involved
1490
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.680
in this too, that the craft, the crew themselves are
1491
01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:56.439
giving a symbiotic connection with like their product and their
1492
01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.279
energy to actually power the ship. So they're not just
1493
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.399
crew members, are not just navigators, their power sources, you
1494
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:07.279
know what I mean. It's fascinating in space itself. It's
1495
01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:09.640
all just not what we're thinking, you know. I had
1496
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:13.319
to re understand exactly what I was seeing when they're
1497
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.840
saying that this engine was grown over a black hole.
1498
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.560
That led me to dealing with gentlemen by the day
1499
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:24.880
with the name of Rudy Shields have taken an interest
1500
01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:28.000
in my experiences and we started communicating quite a bit,
1501
01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:33.279
and he especially had taken interest in the other universal
1502
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.479
aspect of what I was kind of dealing with, you know.
1503
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:39.520
But he has a new black hole theory, and that's
1504
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.800
based on all the data collected from the observatories that
1505
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:47.079
he dealt with, and he calls them makos magnetically eternally
1506
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:52.760
collapsing objects, and how actually the mako is inside of
1507
01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:55.960
the black hole itself, but that's a mechanism that actually
1508
01:37:56.039 --> 01:38:00.520
stores the information and how actually all the information of
1509
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.039
the universe wraps around what looks like they're crashing disc
1510
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.039
but it actually wraps around that mako and that is
1511
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:10.159
what we would call the Acastak records. That's the record
1512
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:12.239
of space and time. We've heard that so often, a
1513
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.720
cast records. I mean, everybody as accessing it now and
1514
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.439
teaching other people to do it and YadA YadA, But truly,
1515
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:22.640
what is it? You know? So really, these black holes
1516
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:26.359
are the hard drives of the universe. They're not just
1517
01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:29.039
you know, they're not just these holes that suck everything
1518
01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.399
in like the movie when I was a kid, the
1519
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:34.279
black Cold. Everything sucks into it crushes it. And that
1520
01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:36.239
made so a lot of what we've heard about them
1521
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:39.920
theoretically is not true compared to the data, you know,
1522
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:43.760
and that's important, you know, very important. So these makos
1523
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:47.600
is something completely different. And when dealing with like especially
1524
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:50.439
if you have a civilization Chris that might not even
1525
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:55.439
exist anymore, they can still exist within that mako, the
1526
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.520
Acastak records and able to communicate with us through our
1527
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:04.239
brain and that's that that's heavy and our brains quickly.
1528
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:09.199
There's there's something something in these black holes. What's been
1529
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.760
shown is that they operate more similar to the way
1530
01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:18.680
our mirror neurons do, okay, and uh, mirror neurons are
1531
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:22.520
We've got these fibers that make up our entire body.
1532
01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:25.159
Oh lord, that's the name of it now. Anyway, they
1533
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:28.359
make up our entire body, but they make up our brain.
1534
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:32.760
And then they construct micro marcrotubules, sorry marcrotubules, and the
1535
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:39.920
brain microtubules occur two waves concentrically or helical. Okay, and
1536
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:44.279
that's this universe, all right. So they respond to conscious
1537
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:49.760
waves and there's conscious waves brain waves like mirror waves
1538
01:39:50.159 --> 01:39:53.159
mirror neurons. Is the way these black holes are functioning.
1539
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:55.319
And when I say that, and I talked about the
1540
01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.279
copy that's made what they call the quantum hologram. Also
1541
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.600
everything that goes through who the black hole or goes
1542
01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.319
into it is actually the copies made on the surface
1543
01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:07.680
of it. That's that of cassic records. That's the quantum hologram.
1544
01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.279
That's that's all that. So that's that's kind of where
1545
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:15.079
that's that's coming from. So that way the way black
1546
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.880
holes will be able to be accessed is consciously. You
1547
01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:22.359
wouldn't think that brain science would in any way connect
1548
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:26.520
to how black holes function what, but that's what the
1549
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.159
data is showing, and mirror neurons is me talking to
1550
01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:32.760
you now, talking to the people. They're able to see
1551
01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.560
the experiences that I'm talking about. That's what the mirror
1552
01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:40.279
neuron network does. It's also connected to the grab reflex deal.
1553
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:45.199
But also that's how these these black holes are hard
1554
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:49.439
drives of the universe. Yeah, it's pretty heavy like that.
1555
01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.479
That's a lot. We could go many different directions here,
1556
01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:58.399
but I want to get your take on space because
1557
01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:03.000
I've had I've had a few shows lately where my
1558
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:07.279
guests are questioning what space is, and I have this
1559
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:09.479
deep gut feeling that, of course, we've been lied to
1560
01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:12.000
a lot, a lot of things, almost everything that you
1561
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.239
know in our existence really if you look at some
1562
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.760
of the things that have come to light lately. But
1563
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:21.479
when it comes to outer space and our ability to
1564
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.199
traverse to space or to the Moon like we supposedly have,
1565
01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:30.279
doesn't seem like traditional rocketry would do it, especially from
1566
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.560
the images that we're getting from NASA. You know, some
1567
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:35.680
of these things lunar landers covered and look looks like tinfoil,
1568
01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:39.119
and you know, some of the footage is just so questionably,
1569
01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:42.640
you know, ridiculous. I don't know so I'd like to
1570
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:44.760
get your take on what's going on there. Do you
1571
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:49.000
think we have actually been doing what NASA says we're doing.
1572
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:51.920
Are we doing it a little differently maybe with our
1573
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:53.119
secret space program.
1574
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:56.079
I think it's both. I think the NASA is a
1575
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:59.119
front for all that stuff and what they've done, you know,
1576
01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:01.439
even like what if you go look at some of
1577
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:03.319
the stuff, like I think the Jim's name is Ralph
1578
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:06.479
Ring and some of the stuff that they were proposing
1579
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.039
a long time ago, even got patents for such a
1580
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:12.039
long time ago, and dealing with not just anti gravity
1581
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:16.760
but gravity modificate modification. That's you know, slightly different, but
1582
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.319
that's that's very serious. What happened to that? Where does
1583
01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.000
the next step from that? You know, actual scientists that
1584
01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.520
are actually dealing with real warp drives right now, you know,
1585
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.119
and that actually some of the theories behind that. And
1586
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.720
it's recently talking about space a little you know, recently
1587
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:34.239
did a video on this too, and it's information that
1588
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:37.159
comes to me sometimes these beings. It's dealing with what
1589
01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:40.920
it's called fermi bubbles, which weren't discovered all that long ago,
1590
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:45.279
but you know, that's a gamma ray bubble that is
1591
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.880
over every galaxy, including the Milky Way, and they're all
1592
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:53.600
connected in terms of right now, we have a lot
1593
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.520
of gamma radiation this galaxy from other galaxies. But if
1594
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:00.279
you're dealing with an advanced type you know, for Type
1595
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:04.640
five civilization, that's dealing with something like the fungus I
1596
01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:09.199
mentioned before, the radiotropic fungus that grew on the walls
1597
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:13.039
of Chernobyl and also Fukushima. It's a black fungus that
1598
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:15.279
actually had the robot scrape it off. And what it
1599
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:19.680
does is uses its pure melanin to convert the gamma
1600
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:23.239
radiation into the gross cycle. And that's what Luke Frigno
1601
01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:25.439
and Bill Bixby were doing. That's what the ault does.
1602
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:28.880
Sorry I to throw a joke in there, but seriously,
1603
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:33.960
it does convert gamma radiation into the gross cycle. And
1604
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:36.880
you know, I've heard people that are talking about melanin
1605
01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:42.199
dominexterrestrials saying that perhaps a Type five civilization had sent
1606
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.840
that here as help with the radiation cleanup on this planet.
1607
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:49.239
And we get more help than we think. And that's
1608
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:52.239
the last thing. When you start looking into fungal fungus,
1609
01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.600
it's many ways shown as like McKinnon. Other people can
1610
01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:02.640
traverse interstellar space immune to solar radiation. Several types are
1611
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.560
So if you're going to send a probe to another planet,
1612
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:08.760
like a Bracewell probe, you know what I mean, that
1613
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:12.399
it makes contact like two thousand and one, something like that,
1614
01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:16.800
and looking scientifically at what's been developed, like the theory
1615
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:19.960
of I don't want to mispronounce this gentleman's name alque
1616
01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:24.319
Berry warp drive, which the deals with pulling a bubble
1617
01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:27.680
over the craft and stretching it and pulling the craft
1618
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.279
towards it. It's slightly different, but it's a different way
1619
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:33.039
of warp theory. Now, if you were going to take
1620
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:38.960
something like spores fungal and take them get them somewhere else,
1621
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:42.520
wouldn't that be a great way to use Alcaberry warp
1622
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:46.000
drive through these ferming bubbles. But you see, we don't
1623
01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:49.920
think about how a lot of civilizations might actually exist
1624
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:57.920
in space, especially on the organic aspect, and it's different,
1625
01:44:58.000 --> 01:44:59.960
you know what I mean. Everything I've been on board
1626
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.840
was organic to a nature of these craft, not fully,
1627
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:06.239
but they're very sentient to a part. A point Chris,
1628
01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:11.039
that I underestimated how sentient these craft actually were. You know,
1629
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:14.279
I'm walking around on there unescorted. I mean, I was
1630
01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:15.920
so sick that I'm not going to be much of
1631
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:18.479
a threat to anybody anyway. But it's not even about that.
1632
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:23.479
But the ship knows you, knows your intent, and I
1633
01:45:23.560 --> 01:45:28.039
think it knows you're not just soul life memories. I'm sorry,
1634
01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:30.600
your soul life memories, not just life memories. Your soul
1635
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.840
life memories, which we don't have access to for the
1636
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:38.079
most part, is really hard. I say this without going
1637
01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:40.560
too far, and this will deal with your space deal. Also,
1638
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:45.239
one of my experiences that I've talked about is this craft.
1639
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:48.079
It seemed like a pure conscious craft at first until
1640
01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:52.920
its unfoldment became fully physical. And one of the rooms
1641
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.560
on this craft, it was full of these little wormhole
1642
01:45:57.680 --> 01:46:00.920
thing So we're opening and closing really quick, and they're
1643
01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:02.479
all over the place in there, Chris, I mean, there
1644
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.960
must have been probably twenty of them. And I have
1645
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:07.520
this light being a ball of light that jumps in
1646
01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:13.079
front of me, starts unfolding like a sunflower, and jumps
1647
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:15.720
into one of these wormholes and comes out of another one.
1648
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.119
I'm talking about a millisecond, and I'm picking up that
1649
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.720
we're like fish out of water in your dimension and
1650
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:26.560
in your in your density density a lot in your density,
1651
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.840
we're like fish out of water. We have to be careful,
1652
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.199
you know, things like that. And before when I would
1653
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.520
be out, like doing exercises late at night, the Gate
1654
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:37.520
of Power and stuff like that, trying these night exercises,
1655
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:41.079
I would see these blue flashes and these lights and
1656
01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:43.600
I never thought in a million years that those could
1657
01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:49.000
possibly be non corporeal extraterrestrials. Never, but they're going in
1658
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:51.319
those wormholes just like that. That might have been very
1659
01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.960
well what I was seeing. Anyway, this this room, okay,
1660
01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:57.960
and this is something that Rudy Shields had forced me
1661
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:01.119
to accept mathematically through it all up, he said that
1662
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:03.039
this was a craft and it makes sense that it's
1663
01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:08.720
actually dealing with the path of most coherency to another universe,
1664
01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:13.960
and that was the center for that. And he's kept
1665
01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:15.840
asking them, any of them, could you know, were any
1666
01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:18.279
of them stable used And it didn't seem like to me.
1667
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:21.640
It seemed like many wormholes that aren't supposed to be stable.
1668
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:24.479
They're moving around, you know, And he's saying, yeah, but
1669
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:27.279
that ship is able to choose that which one it needs.
1670
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:31.159
And that's dealing with the universal aspect. And I had
1671
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:32.399
to deal with that because I can want to say, no,
1672
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:35.039
it's just another galaxy, but no, it's a universal thing.
1673
01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:36.520
So anyway else set up?
1674
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:37.720
No, man, that was great?
1675
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:40.520
Does that make sense? It was like being too weird,
1676
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:41.840
not making sense.
1677
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.239
It makes sense and it goes deep. But I think
1678
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.319
that it makes a lot of sense, and it gives
1679
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:51.039
a better understanding of what could possibly be going on
1680
01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:55.039
with these technology and the ships. And what I want
1681
01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:58.600
to get into right now is what is their interest
1682
01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:02.920
in us? You know, these type possibly five civilizations, super
1683
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:07.199
highly advanced. What are they doing with us? Why are
1684
01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:10.119
they interacting with us? You know, it seems like we
1685
01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:14.640
could possibly be a part of an experiment. We could
1686
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:19.279
be a creation of theirs, maybe some of these species.
1687
01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:19.920
I don't know.
1688
01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:23.159
What do you think the interest or relationship with these
1689
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:24.119
these entities are.
1690
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:27.800
You know, the first thing is I think you have
1691
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:31.199
such a multitude of entities that are interested in this
1692
01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:34.960
place and interacting with it, and the ones that seem
1693
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:39.079
to get the main cream of the crop any attention
1694
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.239
is the negatives. I mean, for a long time when
1695
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:44.439
I was trying to, you know, find other things in
1696
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.680
the media way before ever came forward, you know, as
1697
01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:48.960
a kid trying to figure out other people are having
1698
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:52.079
experiences like mine. I was never seeing these beings. I
1699
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.680
was never hearing these type of experiences. I was seeing
1700
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:58.000
tons of stuff about grays, and then later on I've
1701
01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:00.239
never seen and then later on a bunch of stuff
1702
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:03.119
about reptilians, you know, and they're very interested in this
1703
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:05.359
place and said, look at all these people that have
1704
01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:08.760
been assaulted in their experiences and had this horrible trauma
1705
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:13.760
associated associated excuse me, associated with their experience, and there's
1706
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:16.680
a lot of people, you know. I was so shocked
1707
01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:19.960
to see in the Free Foundation, what is it called
1708
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:25.199
CCRA contact modalities when they did that survey, how many,
1709
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:27.720
like out of twenty twenty five hundred I took that
1710
01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:33.720
survey contact the experiencers said they have positive contact opposed
1711
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.479
to negative. You expect to see something was so skewed
1712
01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.840
towards the positive. It was unreal. I was shocked, you know,
1713
01:49:39.880 --> 01:49:41.520
because that's not what we hear about in the media.
1714
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.159
So I think it depends on the beings. Like for
1715
01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:47.199
the example, the ones I'm being dealing with, there seem
1716
01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:50.159
to be more interested in. One is we don't have
1717
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:54.199
access to our soul life memories here. It's an issue,
1718
01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:58.359
and we're immortal souls to a degree with a lot
1719
01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:03.640
of sole life. Experience says, that's like going from kindergarten
1720
01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:07.520
to twelfth grade. You're graduating, but you can't remember kindergarten
1721
01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:10.600
to eleventh grade. Kind of crap? Is that? I mean,
1722
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:12.199
that's what this place is like. We don't have any
1723
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:15.479
access to our soul life memories. It's easy to get
1724
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.439
caught up in a cycle of reincarnation here. You know,
1725
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.079
my work has taken me into really dealing with earth
1726
01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:24.239
bound spirits a lot and helping them cross over. The
1727
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:26.840
ones that are attached to people that you don't pick
1728
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.800
up on even as a medium. You know they're entwined
1729
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:33.239
in the person's behavior pattern. That's serious and I had
1730
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:35.119
no idea that it was that. I can tell you
1731
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:40.600
now in my opinion through experience. I think the earth
1732
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:45.319
bound spirit population, like the Patrick Swayze's walking around and
1733
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:48.640
that movie Ghosts, is just as numerous as the living
1734
01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:53.600
and that is a real issue here. So remembering who
1735
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:56.199
we are the other places we may have been lineage
1736
01:50:56.279 --> 01:50:59.680
wise is not even accessible to us. That's a problem
1737
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.039
for them those of us that are having positive encounters,
1738
01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:04.319
so a lot of it. And if we've once been
1739
01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:08.800
like okay, go geek on you man, like Star Trek. Wise,
1740
01:51:09.159 --> 01:51:11.439
if we were once part of the federation or everybody
1741
01:51:11.479 --> 01:51:14.279
talks about that, a galactic federation cats idea what they'll
1742
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:20.560
call themselves that But let's say, you know, whatever those
1743
01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:23.119
that do. You know, I'm not saying no problem with it,
1744
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:26.560
but if we're once part of this federation or any
1745
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:29.439
federation like that, this would have been a place of
1746
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:32.640
galactic trade where you might go outside and go down
1747
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:34.640
to your city building and see a couple of non
1748
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:38.800
corporeal beings flowing around or doing like sermons or things
1749
01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:42.159
like that. It's not like that anymore. When these actually
1750
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:44.640
technologies that were still wondering how they got here, like
1751
01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:47.680
the order station we just talked about, or the pyramids,
1752
01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:50.000
any of these things that show this was once a
1753
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:52.960
type one civilization. I think we're trying to go back
1754
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:54.680
to that, and that's the one thing that Star Trek
1755
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.640
may represent, is we start getting back into part of
1756
01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:00.840
the galactic trade and being part of that. So that's
1757
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.399
an interest to some of these beings too, you know,
1758
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:07.880
soul life memories, the planet itself, because I asked, I
1759
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:10.279
asked these beings I was dealing with, and they had
1760
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:12.680
told me that the Earth won't what they had said,
1761
01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.239
the Earth won't be destroyed again. And they're sitting me
1762
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:19.439
visions of the Earth going around in the sun looking
1763
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.439
like a burned up ash kind of. They said, that
1764
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:25.199
will never happen again, and we don't know how old
1765
01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:27.760
the Earth truly is and what has truly been through.
1766
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:34.359
You know, if you're a fan of doctor who like myself,
1767
01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:37.760
there's one doctor that sticks out for me. The favorite
1768
01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.079
for me when I grew up was Todd Baker. But
1769
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.840
you know, the second one he did was called Arc
1770
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.399
in the Space and it was about they landed on
1771
01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:50.560
the space station that was the reservoir, the reserve of
1772
01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:54.800
humanity was to sleep there in Cyber. It's sorta seller's
1773
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:59.680
suspension because there was a solar flare that destroyed Earth,
1774
01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:04.720
not destroy it, but just made it unadmitable for you know,
1775
01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:07.319
I don't know a million years or whatever, and it's
1776
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:09.960
just very interesting. And they talked about trying to repopulate
1777
01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.640
the Earth. I think something similar to that has happened before.
1778
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:15.600
It's sight differently, but I mean there's been a destruction here.
1779
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.720
So the beings I've dealt with are much more interested
1780
01:53:18.880 --> 01:53:21.720
in the earth. Before I set this up. One of
1781
01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:25.520
the beings, I got so many responses on the interviews
1782
01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:28.439
I've done and at conferences from this being in particular.
1783
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:30.399
Most of them don't have names. This one gave me
1784
01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:34.039
a name, Mana was his name. Very tall being and
1785
01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:37.199
it looked like it had a brain on the outside.
1786
01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:42.840
And I know now it looks like brain coral and
1787
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:44.880
you know, and I wonder sometimes why some of these
1788
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:48.680
beings will come forward when I was younger or you know,
1789
01:53:49.479 --> 01:53:52.199
in of young adult years, and then suddenly they back off.
1790
01:53:52.840 --> 01:53:55.720
Others may come forward, they back off, Well why what
1791
01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:58.680
is it? You know? And I'm waking up thinking about this, Chris,
1792
01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:00.560
And this is you know, before before I went to
1793
01:54:01.239 --> 01:54:03.439
Australia and sold what a problem they're having with it
1794
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:07.960
bleach coral, bleaching coral. I can work at bleaching coral.
1795
01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:10.720
It's in my mind what I started looking at that
1796
01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:14.279
and what's really happened to the coral reef? And this
1797
01:54:14.439 --> 01:54:16.319
being is somehow connected to that, you know, And how
1798
01:54:16.359 --> 01:54:19.239
it's being destroyed by global warming and a bunch of
1799
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:23.039
other things they're saying. That's real serious. And then that
1800
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:27.359
took me into something that's called super coral, which are
1801
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.079
these type of corals that they're making that is resistant
1802
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:35.039
to the bleaching effect. And I'm wondering to myself, why
1803
01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:37.600
was Manna just this being not just dealing with me,
1804
01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:41.600
but what it's connection with the Earth matrix and is
1805
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:45.720
that it does this species represent either the past or
1806
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:51.199
the future when coral becomes sentient and leaves. I mean, seriously,
1807
01:54:51.439 --> 01:54:53.880
you know, people are tripping out on octopuses right now,
1808
01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:56.840
and I'm taking a different way. And that's just new too.
1809
01:54:57.159 --> 01:55:03.279
I was watching that show, was that Resident Alien. You know,
1810
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:07.960
he's supposed to be of octopus type of variety that
1811
01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:10.640
I mean not from here, but they're supposed to be
1812
01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:13.439
cousins in a way. His species is an octopus, And
1813
01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:15.119
I just saw an h and alien are talking about
1814
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:17.880
octopus is not from Earth and all this and that
1815
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:20.399
and things. I think there's a lot more than that.
1816
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:25.239
Things that have been planted here, you know, experiments here
1817
01:55:25.640 --> 01:55:28.319
and he mentioned earlier is just a laboratory, Chris. We
1818
01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:31.520
have every sign of that what is with all these
1819
01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:35.640
weird hominids and all these cryptids that just pop out
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of anywhere, jump into people's field of vision and then
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are gone of awareness and then they're gone. They're just
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they're just stacked away into urban legend and folklore that's
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been going on a long time here is that are
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01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:51.720
those breeding experiments and these creatures are taken What is
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this here? It is a very strange place. So anyway,
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that's I'm sorry I probably didn't aswer your question. No, no, that.
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You mentioned people being intertwined with the non corporeal or
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disembodied spirits, and that brings me to one of the
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last things I want to get into today is what
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could be misinterpreted as mental illness. And I think a
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lot of extraterrestrial experiences, a lot of people who experience contact,
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who experience contact with light beings or even malevolent beings,
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are being mistaken as mental illness, and they're being given
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these pharmaceuticals to just kill out all whatever's happening in
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their brain, and of course it'll stop the experiences because
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it's probably destroying their brain as well. But I think
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that this is a thing that's happening with people who
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are being mislabeled as mentally ill. What do you think
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about that?
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I would you know, I would you know, I would
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agree with that. It's the thing first of all, really
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taking it into really auto suggestion and how powerful out
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of suggestion is truly what the true hypnosis is auto
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suggestion and relaxation. Okay, but auto suggestion is so powerful.
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And on this situation what you just talked about, if
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you even relay that you have experiences. You know, since
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I was much younger, before I ever came forward, I
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was obsessed with I thought probably seventy percent of the
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population that had some type of contact, and I found
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that to be true. But guess what, nobody says it
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to each other. You don't talk about it. People see
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a soft squatch. You don't tell nobody. Don't even tell
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your husband about your wife about it, because you don't
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want them to think you're crazy. That is a very
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powerful stigma, as powerful as let's say, I know people
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that probably would be I don't want to quote the religion,
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but then I don't have religion, forgive me, but they
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would say they're a Christian because if they weren't, they
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01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:00.439
might see you. They might have to spend eternity shoveling
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sulfur into a pit with the with the big horned
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horned demon stabbing them in the ass with a pitch
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for it for eternity. I mean, that's a very powerful
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that's a powerful caricature, you know, enough to worry a
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lot of people. I talk to you, I'll just wear
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Christianity because just a case, you know, just a case.
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I don't know. I don't put anybody down, but I'll
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saying that is a powerful auto suggestion. And the same
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thing if you discuss any type of contact. But right now,
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what's cool with I think not just the virus thing,
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but with the Internet and communication that's changing. People are
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starting to talk a little bit more. And the next
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part of what you said, I think is trying to
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filter out the fact that the truth is in this field,
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your pology and new age. It attracts those that are delusional,
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that are mentally ill. It's like moth to a flame. Okay,
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So trying to use your discernment to find out who
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has really experienced something versus who's insane liars versus who
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was driven insane by their encounters. You know, it's a very.
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Any Fortunately, we also have people planted in this community
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to spread this information and give that information too, so
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we got to watch out for that too.
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Oh and they always come in with the with the
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love and like thing. Yes, and they acted to these gurus. Look,
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being a contact deed does not mean you're a guru
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by any stretch. I'm not. I screw up all the time,
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you know, I ate pizza, I do a whole bunch
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of stuff wrong, man, So I'm not. You know, it's
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not even about that, and right now, it's about being
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people and communicating and getting putting this tapestry together, you know,
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even to where I know some of the technologies I've
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been exposed to have been the beings that told me
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that has been corrupted by lower vibrational entities to deceive people.
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So when I hear people some of these people like
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SSP and things, I don't think it's all crap, you
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know what I mean? I think something like that's happening.
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And what better way than the generator field of energy
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that's presses people that would be having an otherwise positive contact.
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All you gotta do is saturateing and train the brain
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with negative encounters to where you know, it doesn't take
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much if you're dealing with a divine field and you're
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getting exterrestrials, interdimensionals, whatever, and that's not I think the
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separate things. We think it is like you mentioned earlier,
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but we're getting that kind of contact, but instead our
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brains are in trained with this grayze anal probes, YadA YadA,
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and it actually messes up the experience. These may be
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positive beings, but we're strong enough to warp that into
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something negative. We do have a lot of power, you know,
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enough to or I can tell you we can walk
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away from the light that day death. We cannot cross
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over and go away from the light and make it
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go away. You know. I just put something up recently, Chris,
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which was Pack Swayze's ghost movie, and it was one
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part and I wanted to see it. It was playing
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on AMC, so I got to catch it. But it's
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when he actually dies and he comes over and sees
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himself there. Demi Moore is crying and all of a
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sudden he goes to this panoramic life review. He's in
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his bed, she's looking at him, and then all of
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a sudden he sees the light and then he's back
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out on the street and he starts going like this,
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and she's the light that's coming towards me. And he
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turned around and ran and it went out, probably not
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real quick. It went out. The spirits that will communicating
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with me, that crossed over through the people that they're inhabiting. Okay,
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have told me that a lot. I ran from that light,
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or one cat told me before even the client's telling
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me this thing to speaking to So you didn't know
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I was here. And I'm not gonna go on that light.
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I'm not going to that light. Why well, because I'm
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gonna have to change there. And I did some things
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that it might be judgment, it could be hell, you know,
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things like that. So the fear of hair once again
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out of suggestion, that's stuff to keep people earthbound. It's
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real serious or property loved ones not wanting to let
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them go. I mean, it's very easy to get taught here,
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much easier than I thought, you know. So anyway, sorry, man,
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I feel like I'm going left.
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I want you ass but yeah, well let's close on this.
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As far as you know what happens life after death,
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why we shouldn't be afraid, you know, I believe that
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we the reincarnation is the thing. I believe that we
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possibly have a choice whether we're coming here going elsewhere,
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depending on certain circumstances. And I'd like to get your
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thoughts on that. Do you think that indeed we are
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reincarnated and what do you think? Do you think that
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we go undergo a life review and actually have a
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choice to come back here or go somewhere else.
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When I died, okay, I was in a car accident
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and I sustained four capistrophic traumatic brain injuries. And that
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was way after my encounter, so that was not that
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was an adult ones happened. That's older. And I saw
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loved ones when I had this when I had died,
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and I could say it was definitely I'm sure it
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was them. It felt like them, okay, And I think
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that they met. I was able to meet them kind
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of halfway because I wasn't fully there either, you know
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what I mean. So that comes down to I think
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we have an ability, and some texts say that to reincarnate,
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come back, or to go on and go pass and
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go more towards the creator. So I think the key
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is to having the last last thoughts when you pass.
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And also your general intent is to go straight the
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Creator and bypass some of these levels and some of
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these reincarnation things. I mean, I care not to I
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mean to go through this again. I don't want to
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forget anything, or a lot of people don't want to
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go through this again. I mean, this is a very
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I'm sorry, let's keep it real. This is a very
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hell is place. It's dangerous as hell down here. Man,
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this is a dangerous place. It's hard to survive as
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trauma walks around like a member of the population, you know.
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So anyway, but that's one thing. So I would say,
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try to have your intent, know how to focus and
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project your intent of will and your intent of will
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with love straight to the Creator real quick. Something that
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some of these other these earth bound spirits will tell
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me is that, you know, they first are talking about
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they all consistently, each one of them, despite what they're
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able to perceive, despite the personality surviving. They say, it's
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dark there. It's dark, and that's why they're latching on
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other people, because these other people have light on them,
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you know. And something else is that I start you know,
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some of them won't talk about the Creator, but they
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seem to forgot love. They seem to be people that
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in their life didn't have a lot of love or
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they were disconnected from it. Then they crossed over, and
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they when you start getting them to perceive more love
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and think of love and especially creator love. I hate
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to say God love, you know, And I say that unreligiously.
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I'm talking about spiritually, okay. And then they start perceiving
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other beings in the room, whether it be angelics or
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loved ones. And I don't know if they were always
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there or if they can't seem to perceive it until
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they start feeling the love. So love is key. Love
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is key. When we cross over, it's a big deal,
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you know. And one thing I can say about mine
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what I experienced. I was in a coma for over
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two weeks, Okay. When I came back, they said to
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be a vegetable the rest of my life, devoid of
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long time and past life memory or short short term
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memories anything. But I was very very blessed, you know.
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But I could still see these angelics I encountered in
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my mind's eye. I still knew before I remembered who
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I was. I could still see my uncle and the
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people I saw that were family members. When I was deceased,
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it was still in my mind's eye, you know, so
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I knew coming back despite all that. The one thing
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I can tell you the lesson I learned was I
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thought I was kind of spiritual. I lived by the
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Golden rule. But man, I underestimated Chris, the impact of
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relationships have on each other. That's what goes with us.
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I underestimated to a degree, and I didn't think I did.
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But I mean, it's it's heavy, it's serious. So express
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love to somebody. Do it while you're in the body,
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you know what I mean. Don't go out like that,
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don't cross over, not go when it's time. When you don't.
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When you go away from running from that light, you're
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running from the angelics that are trying to help. Loved
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ones are trying to help, you know. So I don't
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know how long it takes, but the light does go away,
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and then they just stay here earth bound, and that's miserable.
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I think it's probably a type of hell. You're yelling
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at people trying to get their attention. They don't know
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you're there. Yeah, I heard that a lot too. We
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all ignore me. No, I don't know you're there, you know, anyway,
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so I'll set up from there.
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Does and that's that's very deep stuff. And this was fantastic.
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We're gonna have to do this soon. Thank you so much.
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And before you go, let people know where they can
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find you website social media, that gets.
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Sure. I've got that website Barrylilton dot com in need
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of major reconstruction, but it's still there and there's some
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links there. I'm also on Facebook, but a lot of
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my work is on Patreon, but a lot on YouTube.
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Also Barry Littleton on YouTube. I've been what they call
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shadow bands, So you have to get on there and
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subscribe and go through the playlist, look at the playlist
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and hit that bell. So many people have told me that,
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so anyway, but that's a big one. I have done
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a lot of stuff on YouTube. Got a lot of
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illustrations that have been done by Christine Dinnett that you
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can see from my experiences and it'll make a little
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more sense.
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Sweet Well, thank you so much. That was fantastic.
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Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Great time, a great conversation every time. We'll have to
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have you back on soon and until next time, everything.
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It's a fun and roll like the old folks says,
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they love you so much.
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Incredible occult and forgotten history.
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There's a lot to the ancient history and era that
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we could be uncovering. Everybody is starting to like really
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quit pieces together.
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I've been writing books and doing research in the field
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of Native American mounds and archaeology since the nineteen eighties.
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The LSU campus mounds were redated, which is absolutely bizarre.
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This is all very, very strange, and it's just been
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made more strange because the all these old mounds are
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in Louisiana. The Smithsonian dug into over two thousand mounds,
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finding seventeen large skeletons.
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They saw a very tall humanoid being.
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We just have a rich history of paranormal type stuff.
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New Orleans is considered to be the most haut in
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city in the country. The energy that's over the land,
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and that energy seems to be stuck there.
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In twenty nineteen, I had an experience. It was all black,
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had long black hair on it, A tall creature that
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had a dog's head. Legendary things fiction become reality.
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I mean, it's fifteen.
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This dog man chased him through the woods. He only
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survived because of his dog saving his life.
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Y'all may kill me today, I said, but I promise
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you this.
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I'm gonna kill at LEAs two or three young I said,
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you will for the pain of this thirty on season.
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It was so close that he could see down the
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back of its throat.
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The vast swamps of Louisiana hold many secrets, from an
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incredibly old, forgotten history to mythical creatures.
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There are no answers, There's only more questions.
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The nature of this experience seems to always be just
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beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
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There's layers upon layers upon layers.
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Does add such an element of mystery to this place?
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Why are we here?
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We're getting closer to the truth now.
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There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.
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I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
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Dreams involve interact with real entities.
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People are waking up paralyzed, their sensing or seeing something
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very evil in the room.
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I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.
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I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
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alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
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about these things.
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A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
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our paranormal research would say, we'll have the ghost. Well
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what if it's all of those things.
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In none of those things, the entities, the intelligence that
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were just beyond our understanding. There seems to be something
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a little extra that can take forms of anything.
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I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
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a daily basis.
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We're definitely not alone.
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UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up.
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2111
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strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.
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I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.
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People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.
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There's these bad things that occur, goals, UFOs and all
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types of things coming from somewhere.
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There is so much more that we just don't have
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time for in this busy, loud, and noisy life that
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we lead.
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All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.
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The world is an amazing place.
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