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This is a clip from Beyond Truth.
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You can access the entire episode now on our website
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and all podcast platforms. We're getting closer, I mean this
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year with the congressional hearings and everything, the revelations that
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have come out. I had lunch with lou Elizondo right
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before COVID shut everything down.
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He was.
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Here in my area interviewing Terry Lovelace for the show Unidentified,
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which that interview never got aired because I think they
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were trying to stick to the nuts and bolts type
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of the scenario as opposed to abductions getting involved with abductions,
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which a lot of these people in the support group
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are kind of pissed off about because how come they're
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not talking about us people that are getting abducted. You know,
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we know a lot of stuff. Why don't you talk
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to us? Well, guess what the government is talking to them,
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Maybe not to these particular people in the support.
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Group, but they know a hell of a lot more.
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That they're not they're not they're not coming out with
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and during that lunch, and uh Leus said that they
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they have a pretty good handle on how these craft
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actually operate, that they they create a bubble around around
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the craft that basically defies space and time with a
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very small, uh energy source and what he said it
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wasn't element one point fifteen. So it's it's it's fascinating,
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it's absolutely fat I mean, I I just get blown
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away every day by the things that come out. And
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we're we're getting closer, we're getting closer, and uh you
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know Obama, yeah.
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Yeah, you're ill. And but he had to walk it
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back a little bit.
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But I mean Russia, you know, talked about the fact
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that hey, yeah we died, we got alien bodies, we
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got we got craft and.
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Just a matter of time when all of this comes out.
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But it goes back to good old Eisenhower saying that,
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you know, beware of the industrial military industrial complex.
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Uh, because that's where all all the goodies are.
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You can't get it for through a FOYA a request,
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which you know, because they're not governmental.
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Now do you know who they are? Like, did they
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identify as what race or what beings they are?
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Oh?
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Well, there's supposedly many many races that have visited us,
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but the main ones seem to be you know, the
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grays is tall short grays, the Reptilians, the Nordics, the
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Mantid type.
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And are our military. I mean people ask me, well,
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are the extraterrestrial? Are the inner dimensional? Are they time travelers?
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Is it our military?
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Well?
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I believe it's all the above and anything else you
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can think of. M It's just it's a very complex reality.
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Uh we you know, we're here talking right now. This
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is our reality right here. But there's a lot else
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going on, probably many realities that exist, whether it's dimensional
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in nature, you know, talk about string theory and things
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of that nature.
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I get a question on the you know, with the
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government or these abductees or people who had experiences, you know,
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I think the government has to be in on that
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or contacting these people, like you said, some of them
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are getting question. There is another view. Chris Blutsoll. You've
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ever heard of him. He was just on wide files
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and the experience of like you talked about.
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He's seen it.
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He got abducted, and then soon after he got to
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speak with them, you know, and and so forth and
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so on, and after his experiences he said no, but
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first people didn't believe him, and then the government contacted
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I'm talking to him and I'm thinking, okay, so nobody
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around you believes you. But the government's there talking to you,
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asking you what you've seen and what you know, then
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maybe it's not so far fetched.
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What do you say to that?
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Well, you know, yeah, I mean the bottom line is
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that I talked to Chris Bletso's son. As a matter
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of fact, I interviewed him and you can find those
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interviews on YouTube if you go to opus Separate Word network.
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I have multiple interviews there, and I talked to him
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and at length.
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And I mean Chris went through hell with this whole process.
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And didn't have a very good experience with mouf on
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at one point. Then the federal government got involved, the
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c i A, the d i A, you know, you
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name it letters, three letter organizations. But the bottom line
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is they believe him. Uh, and he's able to call
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in these things. He has that capability. So uh, you know,
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I I firmly believe that he's got a unique ability
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and uh uh and be.
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Interesting to see what's going on in his head.
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Literally, you know, take some MRIs or CT scans or
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whatever you.
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Have to do to see what's going on in his head.
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Uh, whether or not he's got more connections in that
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card poutainment area.
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Mm hmm.
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Is he just a unique individual experience or or are
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there are other people out there doing it the same thing?
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Oh? Exactly, Well, this this is an interesting point. These
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people that have that these connections in that area, they
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connect with other people that have the same kind of
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thing going on, whether they're family related or not. And uh,
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it's I think what's what you're actually observing with these
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people is the next evolutionary step for humanity that will
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have the capability to uh, to telepathically communicate, uh, to
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be more psychic in nature.
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Uh. And that you and I that don't have that.
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Of course I'm saying you don't have it, but I
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definitely don't have it, but that you know, we will disappear, uh,
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and so that those people will will take over the
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next step in the evolutionary process.
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We whre do you see us going?
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Like, what do you think our revolution is where we're heading?
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Well, I think hopefully in a positive direction that you know,
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with people being abducted. I mean, you know, the Roper
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Organization back in nineteen ninety two did a survey and
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they said back then that there was like six million
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people just here in the United States that had experiences, Well,
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this is a worldwide phenomena, and move forward in time,
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how many more people have been visited, whether they consciously
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remembered or not, but subconsciously probably their worldview is starting
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to change because of it. I've always felt it might
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have been because of my experience that you know, wars
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are just a waste of time in lives, that we
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need to be better to one another and you be
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more loving.
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So you know, I think that it's it's it's we're.
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Getting We're going to go to that point and one
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day there will be a critical mass reach that we'll
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move to that next phase in our lives where we're
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not having wars. We're not tribal anymore. Uh, we can
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communicate with one inner telepathically and know that you know,
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whatever it is that you know, you may be thinking
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and the next person may pick up on it or
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may not, depending upon how you handle it.
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And that could be a problem because impacts.
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I've talked to a number of impaants that really have
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hard times because that you know, they they go into
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a store and right away they're starting to get feedback
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from people that's next to them and everything, and some
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of it's not really good.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, transparency might not be, but
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it could be a bad thing.
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I guess if there's still people with a bad at
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TEX exactly exactly, I had the exact situation.
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I did a like a three or four day fast
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or something like that, and then I started feeling I'd
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go to the grocery store and it was like, oh
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my gosh, everything's crazy here, you know, and I.
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Was picking up on a lot of stuff, which a boy.
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But the bigger question is is okay, so I have
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an experience, I see something or whatever.
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What's what should I do with this information? How do
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I report it?
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What should I do? Should I just keep quiet, not
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tell anybody? Should tell my relatives, call the government and
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say hello, see I say, I seen some bubble in
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the sky.
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What's what can I do with this?
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Well?
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I think I think there's a couple of things you
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can do with the Number one depends on what the
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situation is. I mean, if you just see something that's
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I mean, move on is an excellent source for that.
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You can report that because we don't we don't take
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reports at all as an organization. We already asked the
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point where you know, these people are obviously seeing something
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and have been involved with something, but now they need
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help in a different way. So it really depends on
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what you're you know, if if you've had an experience yourself,
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then yeah, you can come see us and we can
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we can certainly help you.
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Y'all have all these links down below in the descriptions
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if you want to go check out his website and YouTube.
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I think you on Facebook, Instagram and all that stuff.
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I'll have it all down below. Yeah, that's great that
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you guys have support groups because yeah, a lot of
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people are afraid to come out.
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But hopefully maybe with shows.
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Like this, maybe we'll kind of encourage people to speak
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out and reach out and get support that they need. Because,
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like you said, I think most of us have had
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some of us not might not remember exactly, but you know,
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I think most of us have had something that we
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can't explain, you.
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Know, So yeah, m you know I didn't.
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By the way, I thank you guys for what you
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do because it's very important that you're providing a service
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for humanity, basically to get the word out that.
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These kinds of things are happening.
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And uh, you know, if you are having experiences. There's
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places for you to reach out to like ourselves. So
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but thank you.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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I guess this is our mission, you know, to get
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the stuff out there. You know, like you said, going
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back to a little bit earlier. You know, we have
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the time now, you know, most of us, I think
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we're Robert's not retired, but he's getting there. But you know,
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for those of us who are retired, don't we have
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the time now to sit and think, you know, and
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really go through things. And we're not so busy work
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work work anymore. You know. It can take the time
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to process things as well and figure things out.
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And so.
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Yeah, this is definitely my mission.
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So well, I mean a lot of people are really
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confused of what to do.
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I know, I was just this afore the show. I
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was telling you, and I says, hey, you know, I.
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Remember one time I I was sleeping in bed and
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woke up. I had a big cut in my head.
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I had no idea where come from. I mean, would
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the pillow cut me or something? I don't know, you know,
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where did that time go?
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I remember, wa I'm going to in my truck.
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One time I turned on the radio and shut my
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eyes for a second, and the whole show that I
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wanted to listen to was over and I don't remember.
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It freaked me out, and I'm like, I remember falling asleep.
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I don't remember the show. It wasn't like I was here.
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And you've definitely had an experience. Yeah, I think most
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of us have. Mine is a little bit more. I
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do remember, except for the time last. I don't know
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where that time went, but I do remember this light
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in my room.
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Next thing, you know, I wake up when I'm down
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on the bottom bunk in a kneeling position with tears
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coming on my cheeks, and I'm like, what am I
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doing here?
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Like what happened? You know?
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And then I called back up to my top bunk,
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going back to sleep. But you know what happened there?
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So yeah, let me ask you. Let me ask you
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guys a question. I mean, when, when have you had
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experiences when you were young?
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Yes? I was seven, okay? And how about years Robert.
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No, No, that's what I remember, just those few there.
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Of One of the things we found in the Omega
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three study was that there was childhood conflict at a
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very young age in the family that opened up people
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to a associative method of handling what was going on
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with them that seemed to open up open them up
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to these kind of events happening, which is kind of interesting.
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As matter of fact, we.
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year with the congressional hearings and everything, the revelations that
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of the scenario as opposed to abductions getting involved with abductions,
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which a lot of these people in the support group
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not talking about us people that are getting abducted. You know,
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the craft that basically defies space and time with a
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very small, uh energy source and what he said it
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wasn't element one point fifteen. So it's it's it's fascinating,
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going on, probably many realities that exist, whether it's dimensional
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around you believes you. But the government's there talking to you,
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asking you what you've seen and what you know, then
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in these things. He has that capability. So uh, you know,
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people that have that these connections in that area, they
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people is the next evolutionary step for humanity that will
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with people being abducted. I mean, you know, the Roper
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experiences when you were young?
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Yes? I was seven, okay? And how about years Robert.
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No, No, that's what I remember, just those few there.
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Of One of the things we found in the Omega
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three study was that there was childhood conflict at a
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very young age in the family that opened up people
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to a associative method of handling what was going on
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with them that seemed to open up open them up
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to these kind of events happening, which is kind of interesting.
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As matter of fact, we.
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Are just in appross of finishing the second phase of
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the OMEGA for study. The first phase of the study
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is on our website as well under the article and
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document section where we've taken the therapists that have been
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working with experiences and ask them a ton of questions.
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It's some interesting.
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Findings came out of that, which again is on our site.
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But we're trying to What we're trying to do is
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give therapists tools to work with these people
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In a better way.
