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This is a clip from the After Dark Show with
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You can access the entire episode now on our website
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and all podcast platforms. What would you say is your
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go to on starting a fire in most situations?
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In most situations, just plain old simple bit later. They
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are somewhat delicate, and they're they're they're easy to mess up.
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You know, you stick it in your pocket and the
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gas thing gets depressed down. Next thing you know, you're
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all out of gas. That's not good for anybody. So
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knowing how to use a pharaoh Srium rod and having
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one with you is also a really good idea. Uh,
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there is a bit of a learning curve. You really
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got to practice on it, and you really got to
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figure it out or have someone show you. But but
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it's a whole lot easier than trying to do a
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friction fire. It's way less calories and if you're in
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the bush and you're in a survival situation, pardon me.
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It's it's all about calories in and calories out. You
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you want the best payoff with the least effort, So
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most commonly, yeah, bitlighter. But I always have a pharaoh
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rod with me so that if it's if it's super
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cold and it won't work, or I've been recently rained
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on and it's wet and it doesn't want a light
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ferrocerium rod, you could throw it in the bottom of
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a swamp and keep it there all week long and
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pull it out seven days later and striking and it'll
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produce hot sparks every time.
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Now, for those who don't know what a pharaoh rod is,
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what exactly is that?
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Hmm? Yeah, you know you think by now that I
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would actually have looked into it. And I'm not exactly
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sure what kind of metals or what kind of compounds
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go into it, but it is okay, by the way,
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there we are. It's basically a sparker from a big
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lighter sized way up, and it it's it's it's soft.
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It's a very very soft metal. So if you were
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to take the spine of a knife and run it across,
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you'll you'll see a shower of sparks come off, similar
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to when you try to strike a lighter and it
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sparks a little bit and then the the gas catches
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and you know, you light whatever it is you're lighting.
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And if you have a dead big lighter, you can
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you can still use the the the wheel to strike
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the sparks onto something that you've prepared to catch the
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sparks to get a flame going. So even a dead
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lighter is not useless.
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That's actually something Jason was saying in the chat is
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he's literally had to like spark from one in gas
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from another because it was wet or whatever. And Brayden,
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a friend of mine from out here in Alberta, just said,
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pharaoh rod is a type of iron, so it is
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literally the flint, right, So now we both know. I
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had no idea. I knew what you were talking about,
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but I didn't know what the hell it was.
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It's iron and something that I don't know, maybe a
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magnesium or phosphood. I never looked it up. I tend
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not to ask questions. I don't care about the answer
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to you. I know how it works and I know
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how to use it.
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So yeah, uh, so you were showing me some of
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the plants that you had as well, Uh, what are
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the top three most reliable, high yield yield foraging plants
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or mushrooms in your area that beginners would often overlook?
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Hmm, beginners would overlook? Well, okay, dandelions, I think most
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people would overlook dandyllions. They're superfood. They are some of
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the most nutritious plants that that you're gonna find, and
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the entire thing is edible, and you can do so
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much with them. Uh, you can eat the flower tops.
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You could dredge them in flour and cook them and
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you know, dip them in a a sauce or a
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saucer or whatever. You could make wines and jellies and
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sort of a honey out of the flower tops. The stems,
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you cook them for a couple of minutes in some
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boiling water and you get basically like a spaghetti. The
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roots you can sort of chop up and roast them
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and make something that tastes very much like coffee. I
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mean it doesn't have caffeine in it, but you know
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it's very much like coffee. And the leaves, you know,
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as they mature, they get bitter, but the leaves are
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full of iron and calcium. They're really good for you
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if you make like a good salad dressing out of
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some berries or something to counteract bitterness. They're perfectly palatable.
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The second one I would I would say probably stinging nettle.
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Stinging nettle is the most nutritionally dense plant in my area,
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at least I think it is. It's considered to be
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a superfood, and it's it's sting is nullified by heat.
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So if you have a campfire going and you pick
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some stinging netle and you just sort of wave it
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over the campfire a little bit and let it, you know,
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kill the sting. Then the chemicals that cause the rash
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and the hairs that, you know, puncture your skin and
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get those chemicals in there, they're all rendered inert. And
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I love stinging nettle. It is delicious. The the top
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little portions have kind of a like an almond sort
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of flavor to it. The the rest of it it's
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a little bit nutty, but not as much as the
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fairy very top. It just basically make it like spinach,
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absolutely delicious. Who see the third that's kind of a
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toss up. But I think giant ragweed would be another
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one that most people would tend to avoid. Again, it's
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perfectly edible. It's very very good, and if you eat
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giant ragweed during allergy season, it helps to alleviate a
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lot of those allergies hum and Nutritionally, it is a
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very very dense nutritious food. Now mushrooms. I unfortunately am
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colored blind, so I don't mess around with the mushrooms
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too well because you know you can see the colors on.
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Some of them will kill you, yeah, or you'll end
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up in the astral No that that could be a
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good day or a bad day, all.
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Yeah, depending on where you're going.
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I actually want to get a after the show. I'll
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ask you about that coffee thing, because I have a
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lot of gasproll andtestinal issues and they've been suggesting bitter things,
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so possibly a dandylion tear coffee might be very beneficial
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for him.
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So definitely good talking about that.
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And chickory root, Andy Lyon and chickery route.
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So Jason had another question, how much foraging versus trapping
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does do you do? And I think that was related
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to the whole calorie thing as well.
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Generally I do a whole lot more foraging than actual trapping,
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only because I'm not normally in a survival situation, not never,
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just not normally because some of my adventures have turned
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out less than ideal, and in those cases, you were
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allowed to do whatever you need to do to maintain
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your life. It doesn't matter if that that plant or
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that creature or whatever is generally considered to be protected.
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You do what you do to save your life. So
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in the survival situations, I always carry some wire with me,
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and I do make snares and I do make some
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dead falls. I do set a lot of traps. They're
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not generally super successful, but they do yield some food
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from time to time. Forging is a lot more reliable
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if you know your area, if you know what you're
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looking for, and you know like as many plants as
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that would be available to you, if you know what
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they are and what they look like and whatnot, then
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forging can be yield way more food.
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And that actually brings me to another thing. I wanted
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to ask, what are the most common toxic lookalikes that
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people should watch out for me?
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In Canada? Definitely the wild carrot, also known as Queen
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Ann's lace. Its toxic lookalike is the most deadly poisonous
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plant in all of North America. It's called the water hemlock.
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There's also a hemlock which is slightly less toxic than
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the water hemlock. For all intents and purposes, they almost
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look identical they're fairly easy to tell the difference between
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them and Queen Anne's lace. They're not always that easy
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to tell the difference between hemlock and water hemlock. But
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hemlock will still kill you, so it really doesn't matter
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what it is. The Carrott family has a lot of
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edible plants in it, but for every edible plant, there's
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at least one toxic plant. Well what do you call
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that again, the great, big, giant one they're having problems
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with in a lot of places. It kind of looks
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like the cow parson and I can't even remember the name.
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Of it now, but I know what you're talking about.
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But yeah, it grows over ten feet high. Yeah. Now,
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the cow parsnip when it's young is fairly edible the
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roots and you know, the the young shoot, but as
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it grows up, it gets a chemical that is photoreactive,
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the hogweed, the giant hogweed. That's yeah. So you might
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think you're getting col parsnip, but it's the giant hogweed
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and you're in for a bad day. You might think
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you're getting wild carrot or wild parsnip, and you're getting
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hemlock or water hemlock. And I noticed that somebody put
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up yarrow, which is an absolutely fabulous wild medicinal plant.
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You can classify the wild edible, but it's medicinally. It's
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way way more useful, and it kind of looks sort
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of like young Queen Ann's lace. So yeah, I mean,
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if you're if you're not one knowledgeable, absolutely sure, do
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not wild harvest any part of the Carrott family because
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you could easily kill yourself. There's not that many plants
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in North America that'll do that too. So yeah.
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I actually a friend of mine again from here in Alberta.
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She's an author. Her name is Joy Child, and she
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watched at the show, but she always texts me because
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she watches it on her TV and can't get into
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the chat.
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Does Mother and.
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Nature mix the talks of the plants with the edible plants,
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like the are they ever in an area where they
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would grow very close to one another.
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A lot of the time. Yeah, you're gonna find Queen
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Ann's lace, usually in an open field, and you're gonna
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find water hemlock, usually along a riverbank. But the hemlock
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grows with the Queen Ann's lace. Uh, in a lot
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of a lot of places. Oh another one actually, just sorry.
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We have a lot of different kind of kinds of
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wild grape around and they're awesome. I bring them home
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and I make grape juice and sometimes, you know, I'll
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make little tarts out of them or whatever. Eat them. Plain.
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We have something in
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This is a clip from the After Dark Show with
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Don Rogers.
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You can access the entire episode now on our website
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and all podcast platforms. What would you say is your
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go to on starting a fire in most situations?
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In most situations, just plain old simple bit later. They
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are somewhat delicate, and they're they're they're easy to mess up.
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You know, you stick it in your pocket and the
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gas thing gets depressed down. Next thing you know, you're
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all out of gas. That's not good for anybody. So
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knowing how to use a pharaoh Srium rod and having
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one with you is also a really good idea. Uh,
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there is a bit of a learning curve. You really
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got to practice on it, and you really got to
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figure it out or have someone show you. But but
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it's a whole lot easier than trying to do a
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friction fire. It's way less calories and if you're in
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the bush and you're in a survival situation, pardon me.
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It's it's all about calories in and calories out. You
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you want the best payoff with the least effort, So
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most commonly, yeah, bitlighter. But I always have a pharaoh
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rod with me so that if it's if it's super
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cold and it won't work, or I've been recently rained
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on and it's wet and it doesn't want a light
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ferrocerium rod, you could throw it in the bottom of
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a swamp and keep it there all week long and
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pull it out seven days later and striking and it'll
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produce hot sparks every time.
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Now, for those who don't know what a pharaoh rod is,
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what exactly is that?
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Hmm? Yeah, you know you think by now that I
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would actually have looked into it. And I'm not exactly
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sure what kind of metals or what kind of compounds
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go into it, but it is okay, by the way,
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there we are. It's basically a sparker from a big
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lighter sized way up, and it it's it's it's soft.
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It's a very very soft metal. So if you were
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to take the spine of a knife and run it across,
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you'll you'll see a shower of sparks come off, similar
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to when you try to strike a lighter and it
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sparks a little bit and then the the gas catches
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and you know, you light whatever it is you're lighting.
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And if you have a dead big lighter, you can
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you can still use the the the wheel to strike
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the sparks onto something that you've prepared to catch the
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sparks to get a flame going. So even a dead
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lighter is not useless.
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That's actually something Jason was saying in the chat is
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he's literally had to like spark from one in gas
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from another because it was wet or whatever. And Brayden,
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a friend of mine from out here in Alberta, just said,
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pharaoh rod is a type of iron, so it is
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literally the flint, right, So now we both know. I
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had no idea. I knew what you were talking about,
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but I didn't know what the hell it was.
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It's iron and something that I don't know, maybe a
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magnesium or phosphood. I never looked it up. I tend
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not to ask questions. I don't care about the answer
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to you. I know how it works and I know
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how to use it.
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So yeah, uh, so you were showing me some of
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the plants that you had as well, Uh, what are
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the top three most reliable, high yield yield foraging plants
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or mushrooms in your area that beginners would often overlook?
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Hmm, beginners would overlook? Well, okay, dandelions, I think most
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people would overlook dandyllions. They're superfood. They are some of
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the most nutritious plants that that you're gonna find, and
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the entire thing is edible, and you can do so
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much with them. Uh, you can eat the flower tops.
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you know, dip them in a a sauce or a
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saucer or whatever. You could make wines and jellies and
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sort of a honey out of the flower tops. The stems,
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you cook them for a couple of minutes in some
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boiling water and you get basically like a spaghetti. The
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roots you can sort of chop up and roast them
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and make something that tastes very much like coffee. I
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mean it doesn't have caffeine in it, but you know
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it's very much like coffee. And the leaves, you know,
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as they mature, they get bitter, but the leaves are
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full of iron and calcium. They're really good for you
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if you make like a good salad dressing out of
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some berries or something to counteract bitterness. They're perfectly palatable.
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The second one I would I would say probably stinging nettle.
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Stinging nettle is the most nutritionally dense plant in my area,
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at least I think it is. It's considered to be
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a superfood, and it's it's sting is nullified by heat.
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some stinging netle and you just sort of wave it
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over the campfire a little bit and let it, you know,
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kill the sting. Then the chemicals that cause the rash
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and the hairs that, you know, puncture your skin and
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get those chemicals in there, they're all rendered inert. And
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I love stinging nettle. It is delicious. The the top
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little portions have kind of a like an almond sort
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of flavor to it. The the rest of it it's
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a little bit nutty, but not as much as the
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fairy very top. It just basically make it like spinach,
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absolutely delicious. Who see the third that's kind of a
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toss up. But I think giant ragweed would be another
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one that most people would tend to avoid. Again, it's
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perfectly edible. It's very very good, and if you eat
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giant ragweed during allergy season, it helps to alleviate a
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lot of those allergies hum and Nutritionally, it is a
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very very dense nutritious food. Now mushrooms. I unfortunately am
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colored blind, so I don't mess around with the mushrooms
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too well because you know you can see the colors on.
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Some of them will kill you, yeah, or you'll end
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up in the astral No that that could be a
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good day or a bad day, all.
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Yeah, depending on where you're going.
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I actually want to get a after the show. I'll
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ask you about that coffee thing, because I have a
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lot of gasproll andtestinal issues and they've been suggesting bitter things,
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so possibly a dandylion tear coffee might be very beneficial
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for him.
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So definitely good talking about that.
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And chickory root, Andy Lyon and chickery route.
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So Jason had another question, how much foraging versus trapping
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does do you do? And I think that was related
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to the whole calorie thing as well.
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Generally I do a whole lot more foraging than actual trapping,
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only because I'm not normally in a survival situation, not never,
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just not normally because some of my adventures have turned
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out less than ideal, and in those cases, you were
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allowed to do whatever you need to do to maintain
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your life. It doesn't matter if that that plant or
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that creature or whatever is generally considered to be protected.
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in the survival situations, I always carry some wire with me,
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and I do make snares and I do make some
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dead falls. I do set a lot of traps. They're
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not generally super successful, but they do yield some food
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from time to time. Forging is a lot more reliable
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if you know your area, if you know what you're
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looking for, and you know like as many plants as
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that would be available to you, if you know what
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they are and what they look like and whatnot, then
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forging can be yield way more food.
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And that actually brings me to another thing. I wanted
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to ask, what are the most common toxic lookalikes that
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people should watch out for me?
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In Canada? Definitely the wild carrot, also known as Queen
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Ann's lace. Its toxic lookalike is the most deadly poisonous
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plant in all of North America. It's called the water hemlock.
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the water hemlock. For all intents and purposes, they almost
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look identical they're fairly easy to tell the difference between
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them and Queen Anne's lace. They're not always that easy
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to tell the difference between hemlock and water hemlock. But
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hemlock will still kill you, so it really doesn't matter
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what it is. The Carrott family has a lot of
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edible plants in it, but for every edible plant, there's
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at least one toxic plant. Well what do you call
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that again, the great, big, giant one they're having problems
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with in a lot of places. It kind of looks
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like the cow parson and I can't even remember the name.
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Of it now, but I know what you're talking about.
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the cow parsnip when it's young is fairly edible the
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roots and you know, the the young shoot, but as
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it grows up, it gets a chemical that is photoreactive,
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the hogweed, the giant hogweed. That's yeah. So you might
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think you're getting col parsnip, but it's the giant hogweed
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and you're in for a bad day. You might think
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you're getting wild carrot or wild parsnip, and you're getting
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hemlock or water hemlock. And I noticed that somebody put
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up yarrow, which is an absolutely fabulous wild medicinal plant.
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way way more useful, and it kind of looks sort
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of like young Queen Ann's lace. So yeah, I mean,
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if you're if you're not one knowledgeable, absolutely sure, do
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not wild harvest any part of the Carrott family because
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you could easily kill yourself. There's not that many plants
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in North America that'll do that too. So yeah.
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I actually a friend of mine again from here in Alberta.
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She's an author. Her name is Joy Child, and she
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watched at the show, but she always texts me because
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she watches it on her TV and can't get into
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the chat.
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Does Mother and.
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Nature mix the talks of the plants with the edible plants,
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like the are they ever in an area where they
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would grow very close to one another.
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Ann's lace, usually in an open field, and you're gonna
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find water hemlock, usually along a riverbank. But the hemlock
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grows with the Queen Ann's lace. Uh, in a lot
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of a lot of places. Oh another one actually, just sorry.
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wild grape around and they're awesome. I bring them home
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and I make grape juice and sometimes, you know, I'll
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make little tarts out of them or whatever. Eat them. Plain.
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