Six Pack of Calgary Draft Options – Flames Unfiltered – Episode 294

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Been all over this country. But that's still find whom
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mapping around. She's rodding up and knocking up down. Welcome
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Flame Sounds to another episode of Flames Unfiltered, hosted by myself,
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Brad Rude and Kyle Lewis. Kyle, this is going to
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be a big couple of weeks for the Calgary of
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Flames franchise, changing picks. Are we excited? Are we terrified?
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And how important is this draft to this franchise?
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Well, it's difficult to imagine what will be more important
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than the year prior the twenty twenty five draft, but.
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Well, we actually have a higher first round pick this year.
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Yeah, but we did. We did so well on last
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year's draft by all accounts to this point in time, right,
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So yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody's terrified. I mean,
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Conroy's been very prudent with his moves and very methodical.
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It's scutting Staff's done a great job that we can
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see again to this point. But I don't know, man,
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it's it's it's pretty wild. Remember was it two weeks ago?
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A week ago? Whatever it was? You and I talked
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about how long the month had felt and how far
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away the draft was now it's like, shit, dude, it's Friday.
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I know, but like I think we talked about it
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just two weeks ago, and I'll tell you what it it.
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It creeped, like the whole playoffs and not that I
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didn't enjoy them. It was moments I really enjoyed the
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playoffs and moments I didn't. But it seemed like it
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took forever. And I think it's, you know, not that
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we haven't had, like last year we had a nine
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a nine pick, which was high with this year with
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it being six and thirty anticipation and we really don't
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get this luxury and not that it's a luxury probably,
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I guess, but we don't get the excitement I guess
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of who we're gonna pick. Uh. And we got a
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plethora of picks ahead in this draft, eleven of them
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to be exact. Two in the first round, four in
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the second round, two in the third, one in the fourth,
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one in the fifth, and one in the sixth.
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Crazy. It really is wild, and I mean it's interesting
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to see like teams like I mean Outawhile with the
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brittykn Chuck trade really kind of stacked their their draft. Uh,
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their draft Arsenal.
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Is that too many picks do we have? That sounds
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like a weird comment, but it's not in the fact that,
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like you only, I look at it as like darts
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on the dart board and hopefully they stick. But like
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I don't know, man, I'm something tells me inside that
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we're gonna be maneuvering some of those second round picks
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into something.
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Well, you have to and we've talked about this extensively,
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and you have to think based on who's on the
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roster currently and Conrad talked without the other day and
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Bern Berner about again space for young players. There's only
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so many roster spots, and you would think that some
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of this draft capital will be packaged in a deal
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to bring in again like we often talk about reclamation projects, right,
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guys that need a second chance, a guy that another
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team's Connor Zari. If you will right, that's what I
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think will happen. And I think you're right about the
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seconds because the first is like it's you know, it's
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a first round pick. They want to use it unless
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they can move up.
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I don't think we'll change this number six pick unless
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we move up, which I think is like a very
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low percentage thing. But I would not be shocked if
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the thirty pick changed.
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The only way that that six pick changes is after
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the first three or four picks, Calgary talks another team says, listen,
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this is the guy we're taking, and they're gonna say, oh,
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we're going to take this guy, and there's some agreement
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about who wants who, depending on who's left at that point, right,
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And that's when you can see those picks potentially flip
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or they don't flip because they know they're safe because
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they trust you the GM's word that we're going to
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take this guy and not the guy you want.
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Right, Yeah, And that is going to be the tricky
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part of this is like how bold. I would love
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to think that, like somehow we could pride that number
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two pick away from San Jose, But I don't see
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that happening because why would a franchise give that up?
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And what do we have to offer them that would
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want you know what I mean? You know what I'm
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saying by that, Like I think San Jose's I mean
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obviously a team growing and getting a lot better. And
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some would say on the CUSP right, they've been very.
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Active in the last you know ten days as well
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with some trade activity.
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But I mean, do you think I'm I mean, if
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you're in Saton Grier's shoes in San Josea. I mean,
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I'm not moving the number two pick for anything, because
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I mean, we're talking about another franchise altering player that
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you can add in with Maclin, Celebrini and Will Smith,
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and you know, I mean, holy cow, right.
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It's gonna be really interesting to see how that plays out.
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The other thing that's really interesting to me so the
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top of the draft order, which somehow some ways to
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Toronto Maple Leafs, which I still find unbelievable despite the
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draft odds, because in Toronto's case, through one year removed
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from being a fairly competitive team in the SELICA playoffs,
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right yep, So all of a sudden, because usually with
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these picks, it's like the Oilers or somebody who's been
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floundering for years, like when they had all those first right,
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in this case, it's a team was very very recently
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competitive that has no assets to speak of, no caps
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base really to speak of, and they have the first
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overall pick. So where do you believe them? Much the
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same as when you and this is what makes this
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whole draft week so fascinating. Where are the Leaf's gonna go?
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So if they draft Gavin the kind of like we
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all expect, you know, how does he fit into that
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team and how much better will they be with him
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as an eighteen year old? But also a team like
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Ottawa that traded their captain for a ton of draft capital,
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but they were just in the playoffs, So do they
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look to flip some of that draft capital to be
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competitive now or do they ease into like a light
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rebuild because they just traded their captain. So we don't
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even know what a lot of team's intentions are at
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this point.
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You know, I think, no, we don't, and that's what's
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gonna make Friday nights so interesting. And let let's jump
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ahead to that Ku Chuck deal. They get a ninth
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and twenty six, they get a twenty fifth and twenty six,
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they get a first in twenty nine and second and
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twenty thirty. But so asmar I think, both me and
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you agree that Ottawa's on the right track, right And
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I and I'm also.
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We've all professed, like you and I professed at length
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to be fans of the team and of their direction.
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Right, I would probably if you could. If you could
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trade your Flames franchise you currently have for the Ottawa franchise,
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would you trade I'm just slowly talking players. Yeah, players,
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I probably would too. But that being said, like I
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think Ottawa's actually I mean, they surely do not want
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to lose Brady Kuchuck, which they have now. But on
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the flip side of that, you know, I think they
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draft ninth overall, but I think in free agency they're
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going to be targeting at Jason Robertson probably.
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Oh, they have the space to do it. I mean,
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and here's the thing about Brady Kudchuck. I talked to
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one scud about it this morning, and you know, take
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it for what it's worth, but he said he's been
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in the game for years and years. He said, Brady
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Kichuck has an awfully big ego for a god scored
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twenty two goals. And we can get in I mean,
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we can talk about how in effective he was in
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the playoffs. We can talk about the politalization of the trade,
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which I'm not interested getting into that other than to
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say that we all kind of knew he had to
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leave Ottawa. Despite what he said, I think it was
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pretty well known he was on his way out.
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Well, yeah, he doesn't want to be in Auto and
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I and that's fine. I mean, I think that's the
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age we're in. I mean, I don't I pray we
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don't get to be the way the NBA is, But.
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It always seems like it's Florida or Vegas though, right.
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Yeah, And I don't think that's ever going to change,
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because where would you want to be.
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Well, no state tax obviously, which is.
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An even tax aside though, like I mean.
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But can you really put it aside? I'm just asking
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the question because Gary Betman tried to downplay it too.
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It's like, oh, climate's a huge factor.
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No, And I'll be completely honest. There's a lot of
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factors in which there's gonna be players that don't want
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to be in Canada. There's a lot of factors that
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the taxes are the pressure. And also, I mean Johnny
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Gudrou I believe, talked about it. I know, Matthew could
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Chuck talked about it. Like the way the COVID thing
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was handled that was not real conducive to family life,
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I mean, and that's that's far remove. So I'm not
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like I'm not like toudying that that's like the biggest
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deal right now. I don't believe it, but I but
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I think those are all like little factors that these
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guys all have in the back of their head. Do
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I think that means doom and gloom for our Calgary
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Flames or Edmonton Oilers or Ottawa Center for that matter, No,
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and I don't. But I think you're always gonna battle
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it to an extent no matter what. I mean, this
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whole Brady could Chuck thing. I think we're gonna see
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the exact same thing happen out with the Quinn Heughes thing.
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And and I don't think there's anything you can do
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about it, Nor do I think it's gonna be like
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a pandemic of players saying where they're gonna go. If
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the league or if the you know, if the GMS
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really don't like this, and the fan bases really don't
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like this, then the GM's got to quit giving out
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no move clauses.
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Right, But then again, they do it to themselves, right.
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I think that's the one thing you and I can
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You can I you and I can agree on because
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we talk about it at length. But in previous generations. The
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player said's your rights, no no benefits, no nothing outside
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of you just play hockey for as little money as possible. Basically, now,
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they probably have too many rights because they all have
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no movements. They can all do whatever they want. They
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dictate trades. Even as much as Matthew Construck did the
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flames of favor with the sign and trade, the fact
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that he was able to play that card was a
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little bit ridiculous in hindsight.
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Right, Well, it's kind of that pendulum. And I think
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we agree on this completely. You know, the pendulum was
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here and now it's swung to the other side, and
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you know, I just pray we find a happy medium
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here and and it's in the gms's hands to do that,
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right undred percent.
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But again, the gms are idiots insofar as it's a
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constant bidding war, right, And that's just the nature of
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economics and hockey and you know, trying to get what
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you need to sell tickets, right.
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And business as a whole.
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Right, I mean, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
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Fairly isolated, thank goodness, in our sport.
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I mean really, well, it's it's more prevalent it's ever been.
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But hopefully it's plateau because it is frustrating when you
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hear what was Ka Chuck's you know, trade list, it
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was like four teams at a thirty times.
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We're seeing that in Connor Hellibuck. I mean that's rumor
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that there's like three teams on that Darnell Nurse. I
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mean it's this is all over the league, and this
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is with American players and Canadian players.
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I mean it's It's funny though, because guys like kuld
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Chuck have like those intangibles the team's value. Does Darnell
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Nurse have read a newspaper that does Nurse realize that
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nobody wants him.
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They would have to package a high draft pick with him.
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It would be like Monahan de Montreal, like give us,
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you know, a first with Nurse and retain fifty percent
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then we'll talk.
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I know, I know, but it's yea world right.
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Yeah, And we're gonna have to save more because we
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could go on about this, you know, all day and night.
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We'll have to save some of this discussion for our
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free agency episode that's coming up as well, Yeah, because
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we're here to talk about the draft and yes, and
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the Flames as well. So that said, I'm gonna kick
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off our draft discussion with a very plain, simple, age
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old question that I want your take on. If you're
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the Flames and you are indeed drafting at six, and
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you asked me this before too soon, I'll get to
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flip it around. Are you drafting by need or best
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player available?
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Best player available?
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Okay? Because to me, my concern in that would.
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Be who's the best player available?
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We don't know, right, That's that's what makes this so fun.
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Although I'm gonna go from a tangent here momentarily, God willing,
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this draft format is actually a little quicker, a little
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less campy. Yeah, because the last couple of years it's like, man,
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they just don't get it. The draft is for hockey diehards.
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It's not meant to be a carnival for your family
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to watch, you know what I mean. It's just it's
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gone so far off the border what it should be
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for hockey purists, and it is hockey purists and only
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hockey purists, and the families of the players being drafted
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they give a shit about this, right I know.
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I know because I have a lot of friends that
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are big HIH fans, and they if I held the
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gun on their head and said wins the draft. They
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wouldn't even know it's this weekend, and I would I
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would actually consider them hockey fans. And you know, on
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the flip side of that, I was informed yesterday art
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this morning actually that tomorrow is the NBA Draft. I
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had no idea, I good nothing. So before I rudely
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interrupted you, you were going to ask me who I
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would take, and.
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And I get that, I'm not saying this is right, asker,
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God knows there isn't.
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So let's assume a couple of things. Let's assume that
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Gavin McKenna is drafted.
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First, we know he's going to get drafted.
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Before the flavor. Yeah, let's assume that uh Stenberg is drafted.
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And let's assume Chase Reed is drafted. And let's assume
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that Caleb Mahultra is drafted.
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Yeah, that's the one I really want if I was
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able to pick.
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But yeah, that would be my number one pick. Yep.
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Okay, scout I spoke to, I think Belief said the
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same thing that Caleb aldro is the most complete player
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in the draft.
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That would be my guy that I would want. Okay,
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but now let's let's take a look and there's there's basically,
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and I did something a little bit interesting last night.
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I couldn't sleep, so I pulled up ten mock drafts
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the different media outlets have put out, and I'm gonna
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read to who they said the Flames would select, and
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then we'll talk about the players that are kind of
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in that target range for the Flames. The Bleacher Report
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said that the Flames are gonna pick center Tynan and
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Lawrence with a number six pick.
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He's high on my list actually, so I'd be okay
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with that. But yes, go on, like.
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It's a little I felt like a little Jankowski ish,
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not quite as woo.
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Watch your language regardian our recent Stanley Cup champion, like
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three point zero.
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Oh gosh, my NHL draft has the Flames selecting left
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wing Vigo B. York Lions has a right defenseman, Keaton Verhoff.
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Uh d a z N whatever that is has left.
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Have the Flames picking left defenseman. Albert Smith's uh puck
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Pedia has Keaton Verhoff. Hockey Mock Draft has Keaton Verhoff.
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HF Boards has Vigo B York. Yahoo has Tynan Lawrence.
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ESPN has Dax and Rudolph, and Flow Hockey has Carson Carl's. Yeah,
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so I kind of look at us a six pack
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of guys where we're gonna get to make a decisions like.
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The classic Van Halen albums. I love that.
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Yeah, remember that movie six Pack? You don't probably don't
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know that. I do actually remember that movie. I was
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a little kid. I liked it.
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Never really far off the beaten.
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Bathty Rights, Brewster Baker.
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Why does anybody listen to this?
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I don't know. Okay, back to draft picks, uh, Saul,
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let's both answer the question that flames fans want to
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know if you were sitting in Craig Conry's spot, and
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I'll answer the same question of the six that I
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just named, who would you take? Uh?
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I feel like we have such a glut of defenseman,
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but it's hard not to take Keaton bear Off.
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So is that who you're taking?
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Yes?
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Okay, Mine came down to a decision between two players.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna read off the other ones first,
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Jaxxon Rudolph. I never considered Carson Carroll's I dead Albert
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Smith so I did not hear really good glowing reports
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on him, did not consider and Tyan Lawrence. I would
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like to have a center, but I feel like he's
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a little bit further down. So that left me decision
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between Vigo b Yorke and Keaton Verhoff.
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I'm a fan of b York as well. And I
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do want to say on Tyan Lawrence that if the
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draft was purely done on what I predicated this conversation on,
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if they're going to go by Need, I can see
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why they would take Lawrence based on who's available at six,
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who expect to be available.
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You know, if we could get Stenberg or Caleb Maholt,
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I think both of us would would be all over that.
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One thousand percent. That's an easy pick. But so you're
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going between Verhoff and Byork, correct, Yeah, and.
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I and I made my decision today. I went with
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Keaton Verhoff. And I want but I want to I
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want to tell you Keaton Verhoff moved in and went
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and played in the NCAA in one of the most
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lead programs in North Dakota as a seventeen year old.
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When Cam mccarr made this step from the BHL to
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play college hockey, he was a nineteen year old. Now.
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His first year of college hockey was very good. Keenan
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Verhoff's was had its moments. I'll be honest with you.
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I watched two games live. I thought he was very
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good in the first game that I watched him.
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Play reliable to a defender wise beyond his ears, just
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to give you a little bit of a scouting background on him.
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The second game, I'm not gonna lie, I was a
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little bit like Woo scary. But I watched almost every
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game on TV this year just because they are North
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Dkota's in my home state.
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North Dakota is your home state.
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He is my home state, And I mean, I'm not
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picking him just because of this, so because I do
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think there's a learning experience that he's going to have
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to go through, right, But he's compared to Noah Dobson,
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He's been compared to cal mccarr. Will he be cal mccarr. Yeah,
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I don't know, but.
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That's that's a that's a stretch, but that is his ceiling,
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which is pretty damn tempting the draft, right.
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But he had a more point productive freshman season than
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cal mccarr did his first year in the NCAA, and
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he did it two years younger. He played against men
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last year. He didn't play in the WHL. And I'm
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not knocking any of the Canadian hockey leagues at all,
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but it is a whole different level playing against twenty one,
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twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.
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Ye yeah, yeah for sure for shortness, But I mean
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the big knock for us out east in Eastern Canada
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with the Quebec Lee Kubek Maritime League, I should say
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is it's a fast, offensive minded league that struggles at
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times the Morrell Cup to keep up, especially the wast
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Astronaut League, but also the OHL who you know won
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this year, the Kitchener Rangers. Of course, you know a
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good friend of mine is assistant coach with where one
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hundred savage player junior. So there is a lot to say,
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and it's anybody who knows hockey knows when you talk
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about the difference in leagues, you're not slamming one league
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versus another. It's just a reality of the situation the
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player is in right now.
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I'm gonna be honest with you, Kyle, I didn't think
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you would pick Keaton Veroff Well.
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Again, for me, I struggle a bit because I think
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one hundred Pertavas has a very high ceiling confident Obviously,
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we all know about za in Perak. It's it's a
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little daunting perhaps to throw another high end defensive prospect
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on the system. But the reality is, again, you do
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have the ability to move these pieces in a larger
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trade if you so desire, and I think you do
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have to draft the best player available because by the
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time you get to a Keaton Verhoff a center, which
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we can all agree we desperately need the centers that
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are available or anything but a sure thing.
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That's the thing. And and then when I said, I
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look at very often and is he a sure thing?
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And I don't know. But I'm telling you.
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What, that's gonna take a while to develop, which is
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why it's good. Here's ahead of the curve.
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You know, he's a physical, big defenseman at a young
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He's offensively inclined. He has a freaking rocket of a shot.
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He plays on a physical side. I don't know, man,
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he does has a great name.
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I was think of Michael Keaton every time we talk
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about him.
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He just I think he's Okay, I'm gonna say it
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because you gut everybody knows who listens to this podcast
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and super super conservative about everything in my life like
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this guy's a safe pick.
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I think about everything. I wish I had your bank accounting.
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I bought a hot tub today, and I'm truite conservative
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with my money.
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But anyway, I feel like he's a pick. I really do.
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And and and I like Byork And I heard on
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unbelievably cool stories about Vigo Byork at the at the
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combine and how everybody loves him. Coaches love him, teammates
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love him. Everybody loves him. I want both of them.
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I can't have both of them.
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Well, we'll see what happens. But I mean, in any
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in any case, it's it's difficult. I shouldn't say it'
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difficult because happens all the time. But in a draft
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this deep, taking the best player available a number six,
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I mean, you're gonna get a damn good hockey player, right.
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And we're so focused on the top part of the draft,
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we haven't even discussed or gotten into, you know, the
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deeper picks that are available. That second round is gonna
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be plenty thick too. A guy like Tommy Blile who
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played her amongst the Brooks qubec Ley defensement scoring record
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I've talked about a few times on this podcast. He's
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a projected first round pick after being a third drund
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pick to start the season. So guys like that that
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come out of the woodwork you take a flyer on.
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I mean, look at well Johnny gudrou was on a
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fourth round pick Paflo. That suit was like six or
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seventh or something. Stupid. And so after we get through
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that first round and it's gonna be some stupid ball.
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It's gonna be fairly early because we're picking six. But again,
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if the draft is protracted as it typically is, you
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know you're gonna wait wait to see your pick. But
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Day two, Saturday is gonna be big day too.
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But Kyle, it this is rewind the last year we
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had two first round picks. Everybody was talking about Zane
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Perrek all day. Everybody forgot that we picked Matt veag
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Gridden late in the first round. What do we talk
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about more this year? I'm sorry I talked about more
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of Matt Vey Gridden than anything.
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The only thing wrong with what you just said is
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the i'm sorry part, because I make no apologies for
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saying when Griddon played s twinning in this guy is
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gonna be a player. I never expected though, that he
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would pop off weighted and then in his exit in
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you to say, I'm gonna leave the team in scoring
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next year, and what else do you think is gonna
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top him?
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Nobody?
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Right?
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Oh, look at our roster.
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So do we have a conversation with just me and
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all my idiot ramblings on ex Twitter whatever. But all
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this conjecture surrounding the possability of moving up in a
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trade that would involve moving Matt Coronado.
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Cool? So not with me? You did not talk about No.
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I guess I thought maybe talk much this week, but yeah,
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or last week? Rather, I had seen it mentioned several
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times because a lot of people seem ready to give
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up on him and package him in a deal. My argument,
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you would or wouldn't?
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I would? I would.
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My My argument on that is that Coronado has such
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a lethal shot that and his second year pro or
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in the NHL. Rather, you don't give up on that
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after the second season. You give him one more year
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to figure it out.
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When I'm taking it.
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I still think the guy's going to score thirty to
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forty next year.
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I know, And I mean you disagree on this, okay,
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So let me ask you this. I heard rumblings today
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that there was some Connors Aery talk for Ottawa and Toronto.
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And Connors is from Ottawa, isn't he Isn't no, Saskatchewan.
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Isn't he? He's from sat Yeah, I think you're right,
484
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so and these are all rumors, so like I'm not
485
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blowing them out of proportion of it speaking of, but like, man,
486
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I'm all yours are if I'm cut Craig Conory, aren't you?
487
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Yeah, I mean yeah, you have to be.
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I saw so if you could work a package with
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like white Cloud and Oh, I don't know, man, I
490
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think I think you listen to everything. I think you
491
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listen to everything if you're Greig Connor.
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Uh yeah, I think you pretty well have to where
493
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you're not doing your job right. Yeah, I don't know.
494
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I can't see a draft where the Flames just pick
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where they're allotted to. I am certain they're going to
496
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make moves and just what they are. I mean, who
497
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the hell knows.
498
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I do think they picked six over all, though, don't you?
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And I just don't see a world where we could
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move up in that or why a team would want us. Yeah,
501
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I just don't know how it would work out. I
502
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think it's local. It would involve.
503
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It would involve an agreement where they don't take a
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certain player and package him probably one of their seconds
505
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to make it happen. But even then, until the top
506
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three are drafted, it's it's it's gonna be very muddy Pitcher.
507
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So yeah, I don't think they're going to move from
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six better things possible.
509
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So you said you would take Keaton Verahoff, and I
510
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said I would take Keaton Verahoff. Who do you think
511
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Craig Conry will take?
512
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I know that if he had his way, I don't
513
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I should say no, but I firmly believe it'd be
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Caleb Mahultra if that were a possibility. But he's so
515
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highly regarded the scunning world. I don't think that's possible.
516
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I could see him rolling the dice and tiny Lawrence.
517
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See, I known't I see him taking Vigo b York.
518
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I do, and it's either my gut tells me it's
519
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gonna be Buerka Beverhoff. And here's another thing, and I'm
520
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not trying to just justify both of our decisions on Verhoff,
521
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but if that guy, if that guy stays and plays
522
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in the WHL this year, he has a monster year
523
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.440
and we're probably talking about him with Gavin McKenna.
524
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:26.920
Yeah, I mean it's entirely possible. Yeah, I mean we'll see.
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00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.240
I mean again, this is a beauty of it, right
526
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is all the uncertainty.
527
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Yeah, it's a tough one because, like it's a tough
528
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one because we do have a lot of good prospects
529
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:40.240
on defense that I feel pretty confident about.
530
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.440
Right well, I feel good on defense and in goal.
531
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I do not feel good upfront at all, like at all.
532
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:54.039
I feel good on the wings, yeah, I do. Yeah,
533
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And I mean we're gonna like there's more guys coming,
534
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right the guys we've already drafted.
535
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That ill Like I think that that steel socks theo
536
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stocks Sillius. I'm super excited about him.
537
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M hmm.
538
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I don't know. Outside of and Cole Rashnie, I'm interested.
539
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I'm I don't know if I'm super excited about cool Rashnie.
540
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.680
I think I'm interested into seeing what his top end
541
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is at the NHL level.
542
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Tends to tell a lot of a player.
543
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Two. Yeah, So but like I sit and I I
544
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.559
look though, and it's like I don't know. On the wings,
545
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:31.960
Like we're fine on the wings I think, mm hmm,
546
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:36.000
But I don't like, I don't think we're wing.
547
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.119
Wingers are so much easier to acquire and find than
548
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centers are.
549
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.359
Right, But like, like, let's say we take a Buerk
550
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and he comes to the team two years from now,
551
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.519
along with the cole Rashney, along with the steel steel
552
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.960
stock Sillius. I see, Sharon Govic gone, Zerigan Coleman gone.
553
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.680
I mean you add those three right there on the way.
554
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.920
You know, I don't know. Maybe we're getting there, and
555
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.880
maybe we'll see what Rushnie does its center. I don't know.
556
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.000
I'm just saying I'm very interested to see. I just
557
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.880
I still sit and I look in the mirror and go, good,
558
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.240
what are we going to do in the center?
559
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.359
I think the same thing. But when I think about it,
560
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:13.759
I try to look at the big picture and think, like,
561
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.559
the Flames are still in a very enviable position in
562
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.799
terms of being on a slow but progressive upward swing.
563
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:24.039
So you look at a team like Toronto that hired
564
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.640
a coach that I can't understand, like me while they
565
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.680
hired him, but anyway, and then does a sign and
566
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.079
trade for a guy like Daron Radish who popped off
567
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.759
last year and I really didn't pick up on it
568
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.640
at all because I don't watch a lot of Eastern Conference,
569
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.480
but I mean had like sixty five points or something
570
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.839
ridiculous on d So now Toronto all of a sudden,
571
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:42.960
because they know they're going to draft probably Gavin McKenna,
572
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.799
they acquire this defenseman, give him pretty big term, pretty
573
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.119
big money, taking to the age of thirty eight, and
574
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.400
it's like, so are they trying to be competitive and
575
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.799
get more out of this group? Like, oh, there's too
576
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.880
much uncertainty, right.
577
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.559
Yeah, Toronto's going further. That's going to be a quick
578
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.759
flip and to go like they're going to be they're
579
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:03.400
going to be all in.
580
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.680
Well, and I think Joseph Wall for Samuel Arson last
581
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.160
week was kind of an odd move, but I mean
582
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.279
not a bad one necessarily, but they're trying to read
583
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.599
tool on the fly. Right, Where's a team like Calgary.
584
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.799
It's like they know what the hell they're doing because
585
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.640
they live and breathe it every day, which for years
586
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.279
we were frustrated because that wasn't the case.
587
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.519
Right, Let's just hope it works so because otherwise, oh.
588
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:29.599
Yeah, I agree, So again, we could spend a six
589
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.720
hour show talking about this draft was so deep. But
590
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.559
I think we've identified. Everything that happens after that first
591
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.000
pick is going to be determined by the approach to
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00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.960
that first pick. I feel right. So yeah, And I
593
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mean I think there's obviously, as you mentioned, Calgary has
594
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.440
so many picks that it's going to be, I think,
595
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.559
be another very good draft. They may even rival last
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00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.400
year's draft, which is widely regarded as the best in
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00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.920
Flames history, which isn't much of an accomplishment because I've
598
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:51.680
had so many bad ones.
599
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:56.640
What I would like to see happen, I'd like to
600
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.559
see Calgary pick a verhaf or Be. You're can not
601
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.720
gonna be up that, But boy, wouldn't it be something
602
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.599
if we could pair up that thirtieth pick and then
603
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.319
maybe two of the second rounders and a Connor Zeri
604
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.960
and move up to twelfth or whatever and and pull
605
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:12.960
a Tynan Lawrence.
606
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.160
That's a lot to give up. Yeah, I'd be okay
607
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.039
with it. We have we we have the wealth with
608
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:20.799
which to do it.
609
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.400
We do. We have enough draft even not even you know,
610
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outside of this year. We have a blad next year too.
611
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.799
So such that that move where it would cripple other
612
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.640
teams with minimal draft capital. If it didn't work out
613
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.519
for Calgary, of Ton of Lawrence was a bus, It's like, well,
614
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:34.720
you know what, it's cow good at risk and it
615
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:35.880
didn't pay off, It's not the end of the world
616
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.599
because we still have cupboards that are stocked full.
617
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.119
Right, That's what that's my point, Like, I think you
618
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.599
go for that high end talent. So if we can
619
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:46.240
somehow pair up those guys and then maybe give Azari
620
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.519
a scenery change that would that would benefit him to I.
621
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:52.720
I don't know. I think that. I think that's that's
622
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.640
an idea, that that they could have some wheels.
623
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.519
I'm gonna have to buy another Flames T shirt because
624
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.640
Misaria one might have to go to the needy if this,
625
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.440
if this goes that way, right, I can't say anymore.
626
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:04.559
I need it is a better word for that.
627
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:05.599
What is that?
628
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.720
I don't know. It doesn't matter. I'm not going to
629
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.319
go down that road regardless. Yeah, I I already bought
630
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.440
up a bunch more blasting gear, including this hat, which
631
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.960
I told him hesitant to work because it's my favorite hat.
632
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.480
Only available to settle them well at the time, probably
633
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:25.160
not anymore. It's a big weekend. Now, do you expect
634
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:26.599
there's going to be a firm one of trades in
635
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.000
the days ahead of the draft?
636
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.960
You know what, I'm going to use a little bit
637
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.119
of reverse stuff because I'm always wrong on this stuff.
638
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.680
In years past, I said, Oh, it's going to be
639
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:35.880
tons of moves, and there's nothing I'm going to say
640
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.960
this year. There's nothing. A little reverse psychology there. I hope.
641
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.480
I want to see some moves. I want to see
642
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.720
some excitement. I think we're probably set up as a
643
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.039
league as a whole. There's probably some more things in
644
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:49.920
the hopper, and I think the Kuchuk thing is just
645
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.799
the beginning of it. It wouldn't be shocked to see
646
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.480
a Hella Buck move. I wouldn't be shocked to see
647
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.079
Quinn Hughes get moved. I think there's some more things
648
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.640
going on. I wouldn't be shocked to see Ellen Larkin
649
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:06.599
land in Minnesota. I I think that is yeah, craziness,
650
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.480
But I think there's actually like more things in the
651
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.880
hopper that we could feed off of and have a
652
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.119
pretty exciting two day draft.
653
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.000
You know, yep, I think so too.
654
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.119
I want to I want to touch base on a
655
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.880
couple of other things outside the league before we Before
656
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.920
we go here, Jonathan Days retires officially fifteen seasons with
657
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.759
the Blackhawks, h two Olympic gold Medals, three Stanley Cups,
658
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.519
two World Junior Championship. This guy was just one of
659
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.079
my favorite players outside of the Flames player and I
660
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.559
loved watching his career and it's sad to see him go.
661
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.599
But boy, what what a what a hockey player?
662
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.519
Yeah, it's I was. I was hopeful he'd have a
663
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.160
little more left in the tank playing for his hometown Jets,
664
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:57.920
but I mean, you know, they had other issues outside
665
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.279
of that. But it's cool you get to retire there. Yeah,
666
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.039
I mean, hell of a career. What more can you say?
667
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.320
Class of twenty twenty six Hall of Fame class was
668
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:17.239
announced today. Yeah, Berger, On Burke, Curly Price, Rene and
669
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.679
Kachuck A couple of no brainers. I feel like in there.
670
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:25.360
For sure.
671
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.360
On for sure, I think Brian Burke did a ton
672
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:28.960
for the league.
673
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.239
I think he still does a ton for the league,
674
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.920
and the people are and and.
675
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.960
Ka Chuck was such a force when he played. I
676
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.880
don't have any problem with that one. Carry Price was
677
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.000
the best goaltender for quite some time. I don't have
678
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.199
a problem with that, and quite honestly, and I and
679
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.840
I'm like, mister, yeah, I don't like letting people into
680
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.079
the Cup that are cup, into the Hall of Fame
681
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.119
that don't deserve it. And I don't even really know
682
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.480
if I have. I don't have a problem with Pecker
683
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.159
Rene either. He's a great goalie. Just kind of hoping
684
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.440
that someday we'd see THEO Fleury's name on there for
685
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.400
what he did at his size during the age of
686
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.880
hockey that he played, and he has numbers warranted and
687
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:10.840
I don't.
688
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:12.599
Know it just I just I'll put it this way.
689
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.119
If a guy that Keith Kachuck can get in, who
690
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.039
I agree in the mid nineties was a force, but
691
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.480
you know, doesn't that era is is That's what I
692
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.039
grew up with, right, so was for nostalgic to me.
693
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.480
Paul Korea at Temusalani, Eric Lynn, Jeremy Ronick TONI a
694
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.559
monte who I had the privilege of meeting, you know,
695
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:34.519
a couple weeks ago. As you know, I don't. I
696
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.239
don't have a problem with Kachuck, but if you guy
697
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:37.679
that Katruck was in, Fleury has to go in.
698
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.000
I know and I'm with you. I'm with you.
699
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.880
I just was not a pointed game player, and Fleury
700
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.440
was Fury was yeah and the other one. And Mike
701
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.639
brought this up on Twitter, and you know, I'm curious
702
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.679
for you digking this one. Mike Gold mentioned if Pacerine
703
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.400
goes in, how the hell does Mika Kippersoft not go in? Oh?
704
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.440
I agree there too.
705
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.840
Both have one Vesna, both had one Cinderella Rounder the
706
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.599
Cup finals, same amount of wins roughly, if not mistaken.
707
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.280
I get so frustrated though, Like I hear names like
708
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.280
bantered about today on Hockey talk. I'm like, I heard
709
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.880
someone say they wanted Serge Gonchar in the Hall of Fame.
710
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.000
I'm like, what, Yeah, I want to hear Santa Sosolis
711
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:13.559
in there too.
712
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.679
Patrick Elliott, I'm like, what, Like, No, these guys are
713
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.280
not Stanley Cutt. And that'd be like saying, well, I
714
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.280
think Gary Roberts should be in the Stanley Cup or
715
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.079
in the Hall of Fame. So he's a great player,
716
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.679
but is he a Hall of Famer? No, I don't
717
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:28.000
think so.
718
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:29.679
Roberts.
719
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.719
Yeah, do you think he's just most too.
720
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.280
Much time between Calgary and Carolina? But so this was wild.
721
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So Peckerina had played the most games of any finished
722
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more goaltender. Mike Kippersoff was third. You know who? Number
723
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two is not a clue, Kyriy Lentenon really, so let's
724
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rattle off the stats here. Serene had a two point
725
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four to three goals again, so Kippersoff at a two
726
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point four to nine, Rena had a nine to seventeen
727
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.679
say percentage. Kippersoff at a nine to twelve. Rena had
728
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three hundred and six nine wins. Kper seventh three hundred
729
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.039
and nineteen shout out with Trina had sixty kipper Stuff
730
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had forty four. Kyle Letting then had twenty eight career assists.
731
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:15.039
That's wild anyway. So Rene is slightly better career wise
732
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.199
than kippers Off in every category slightly and I can
733
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live with that. But I do think that if you
734
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know free Day is going in, it's it's hard to
735
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know kipers Off because Kipersoft was the best goaltend in
736
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the league from probably four to eight ish, yeah, oh nine,
737
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.000
maybe somewhere in there, and then that's really when Price
738
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.119
and Hendry Luckfist and those guys took over.
739
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.559
Jonathan Quick Renny's numbers are probably better than prices, though, aren't.
740
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.519
They Probably Price didn't have a lot of competitive teams
741
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:47.320
in Montreal. He didn't anyway, Interesting stuff, very interesting.
742
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.079
I have a I have a question for you, since
743
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you have lived your entire life in Canada, and I've
744
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.239
lived it right on the border, so I got this
745
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:01.199
as a kid too. So but it wasn't just a
746
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.199
few miles over the water. It's just not quite as
747
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big of a deal as it as it is for
748
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you guys. Albeit it's might have been my Saturday night
749
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staple forever.
750
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But oh god, here we go.
751
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.920
Yeah, I just want to I want honest take, like,
752
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.719
is this a big deal that it's not on CBC anymore?
753
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:23.079
Like so to hockey purists in Canada, it is, but
754
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I don't think they're looking at it for the right reasons.
755
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:31.000
I I find it, how do I say this? I
756
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find it bothersome more so because the NHL has gift
757
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frapped all of their broadcasting rights to Rogers, and Rogers
758
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has through sports that in Canada, has born no responsibility
759
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.440
for the quality of the product. They treat it like
760
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he was given to them.
761
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.639
Well, they're gonna get pushed now because Amazon. You watch
762
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games on Amazon, Oh.
763
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It's it's ten times better. So between the quality of
764
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.360
the streaming services, the quality of the analysts, and I'm
765
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.559
not picking on everyone, Kevin Bix's are the best in
766
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.000
the game. I've admitted I'm getting a little tired of
767
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.920
Ron McLain and his poetic attempts at commentary and and
768
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.519
you know, I've I've spent time with Ron. I think
769
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.960
the world of them, But I mean, it's I can
770
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.840
see that it needs to change. So I'm not so
771
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.400
upset by the fact that Salaga and CBC. I'm upset
772
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:19.920
by the fact that it just gets tossed around. And
773
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:21.519
know what, it pays atention to the quality of both
774
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.679
the content and the production of hockey in Canada, and
775
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.039
that's where I get bothered. So the CBC thing, from
776
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.960
a nostalgias standpoint, I remember like the scoreboard Saturday Music and.
777
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.559
How cool that was, and like, it's my ringtone?
778
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.880
Is it? Yes? Can you send that to me? I
779
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.119
can't find it anywhere.
780
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.639
You spend any ringtone. I downloaded on Apple iTunes.
781
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:46.199
Finds it should be it's anyway iTunes. Wow, I love iTunes.
782
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.400
But yeah, it's just the nostalgic people have a tendency
783
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.519
to grasp on nostalgia, and regardless of the reason for it,
784
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.280
they just they just, you know, get a stranglehold on it.
785
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.239
And I get that, but at this at the end
786
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.280
of the day, it's it's more about what the broadcast
787
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.239
rights to the NHL have just been poured out more
788
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.320
than it is about you know what station carries it.
789
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.719
Because after they lost Haking in Canada theme to TSEN
790
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.320
years ago, had no fucking games broadcast, nobody cared right well,
791
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and in.
792
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Hockey NA in Canada is not quitting either, no Saturday
793
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.559
night doubles. I don't I don't know. It just kind
794
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:24.239
of threw me off.
795
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.199
But remember that when Hockey in Canada and the theme
796
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.559
didn't get renewed by the CBC. What do you mean
797
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.280
that's the theme? And then TSN gut and TSN has
798
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.599
like the four Ottawa Centers games a year and they're
799
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:37.920
using that theme and it's like, okay, guys, that's enough,
800
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.199
put it away, We're done.
801
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.079
Oh man, you now it's the preseason schedule for this
802
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.119
year's Flames and I had to chuckle. It's only four games,
803
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:50.280
which is we knew that was coming.
804
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.159
Are they all in Penticton? Oh that's done, isn't it.
805
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.559
They're not doing that? Well? No, the young stars there
806
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.440
in Penticton. Oh man. But the four games are uh
807
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.800
September twentieth. It starts with Seattle in cal are in Calgary,
808
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.360
and in the twenty second it's they're at home to
809
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.000
the Vancouver and then the twenty fourth are in Seattle,
810
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.639
and then the twenty sixth they're in Edmonton. Okay, I
811
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:18.400
could care less.
812
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.280
Yeah, I feel the same way, but only four games.
813
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.719
I don't know. Oh yeah, I don't know.
814
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.599
It's not much of anything, much ado about nothing, right, Yeah,
815
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:31.360
that's right.
816
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.599
What else do you got draftwise? Anything other insight before
817
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:36.800
we go?
818
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.599
I wouldn't say it's hard because until it really kicks off,
819
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.639
and because there's gonna be trades beforehand, it's gonna be
820
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.159
trades during. The player you pick depends on the player
821
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.840
that goes before, so it's kind of wide open for me.
822
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:54.599
I just can't wait for to start. I mean, it's
823
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:56.320
gonna be a long week. And again, like we said
824
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.679
the outside of the show, it's felt so long getting
825
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.239
this point, but now the next you know, four business
826
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:02.400
days are going to be agonizing.
827
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.719
Yeah, let's talk about the most important thing today in
828
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:12.119
your mind, this hot tub. When does it get delivered?
829
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.599
I didn't see that coming at all. So my buddy
830
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.320
Corey is gonna put the pad in like the concrete path,
831
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.719
probably this weekend, or at least prep it. The tub
832
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:25.079
is going to be about six weeks.
833
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.559
You know. You know what, Actually, Electrician.
834
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.320
Electrician was over today. He can do it anytime. He's
835
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.760
he's a good friend of mine. Okay, we'll do I'll
836
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.639
do an episode from the hot tub. Okay, I'm gonna
837
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.079
ruin this brand new MacBook, but I'll do it. It
838
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.280
should be ready to rock and roll by the first
839
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:45.960
week of August.
840
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.119
I would say, So, did you get a saltwater one
841
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.960
or one that you got to put chlorine all the time?
842
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.960
Colorine or other chemicals? Yeah, And it's got like the
843
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.000
the hydro sense features all the jets, it's got the
844
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.400
lounger in it. Sweet come check it out. You know,
845
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.440
it's like a fifteen hour drive from North Dakota, but
846
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.119
come on, I was like twenty five actually.
847
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.800
Probably more than that. I get a buddy that he
848
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.039
actually stopped in and saw me on Saturday, he lives
849
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:15.599
in Regina. He is driving to Ottawa for his daughter's graduation,
850
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.840
and he would he fly. Well, it's a long story.
851
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.000
His wife flew out there. He's driving out there, their meeting.
852
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.039
They're staying for two weeks and then they're driving back
853
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:28.239
as a as a vacation. He always goes down through
854
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.360
the States and then up through Sue Saint Marie and
855
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.400
that way it's quicker. But he was saying that, he said,
856
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:40.239
it's a thirty hour drive from Regina to Ottawa. Yeah.
857
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.440
I always underestimate the Prairies because I always fly a
858
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.159
fly over them. I never you know, I don't spend
859
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.519
any time there, so you know, it's funny. It's not.
860
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.840
My friend Melissa earlier too and I talk about this
861
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.239
podcast and she was like, like about like hockey and whatever.
862
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:56.960
I'm like, yeah, well we talk about personal stuff too.
863
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.199
She's like, you do. Like, yeah, every damn show, every show,
864
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.199
one of us makes some stupid smart astal mark with
865
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:03.920
his personal life and it turns this great big thing.
866
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.159
It's relationships, hot tubs work.
867
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.960
Yeah, it goes, It goes a lot of places, it does.
868
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.320
Yeah, Yeah, you know, who's not gonna go a lot
869
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:14.440
of places me when I get my hot tub.
870
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.400
Oh yeah, that'll be fun for you. Yeah.
871
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.280
I appreciate the interest because I'm very interested in Yeah.
872
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.239
I can't wait to see, uh see what it looks like.
873
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.280
Yeah, yeah, So what about yourself? Any closing thoughts in
874
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:29.679
the draft.
875
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:37.079
I'm excited. It's I don't know, it's gonna be interesting.
876
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.760
It's going to be busy. I know that. I know
877
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.199
if we draft all eleven picks, I'm gonna be on
878
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.000
my computer making graphics like a mad man. Yeah.
879
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.199
I don't think we have it in the budget for
880
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.679
you to make that many graphics. Oh a lot.
881
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.000
It's a lot for me. We're gonna do it. I'm excited.
882
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:54.280
Uh.
883
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:00.920
Draft coverage, Yeah, we'll do a lot. Blog. Kyle and
884
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.159
I will be all over Socials on Friday night and
885
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:07.440
Saturday Saturday. We are going to do a live draft show.
886
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:11.199
We'll do that, and then right after that we shift
887
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.400
gears into free agency, and then we really really get
888
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.840
the summer months and we get this studio moved, and
889
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.239
get this change and get that upgraded and all those things.
890
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:25.400
Right. Yeah, that's uh, we're here, man, We're in the
891
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:26.400
pick of the off season now.
892
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.039
We'll enjoy the next few days at work. We'll be
893
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.840
dreaming about who we get and let's just pray that, uh,
894
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.119
it's not jan Kowski and let's go on from there.
895
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.960
Keep throwing the Stanley Cup.
896
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.440
Yeah, compas farm Moreton, you or I ever have?
897
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.400
Yeah, I watched him. He was good too, So I
898
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:50.639
don't know what.
899
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.679
Is it did. We just need to ease up on
900
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.280
our buddy Mark.
901
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.920
That's all all right. You dream about your hot tub
902
00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.559
and I'm gonna go have something beat.
903
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.000
Yeah, me too. I'm starving.
904
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:29.360
See you guys. Yeah, thanks for listening to Flames Unfiltered
905
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.039
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00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:34.480
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