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Hey, everybody, welcome to another special episode of Flames Unfiltered.
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You know your house, you see.
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Connor Wilson has always raperate, and today we're going to
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do an episode I Forget. The official title was going
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to be you know the people we forgot were Flames.
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He was a Flames player.
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That's what it was. Thank you. That's how little. That's
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how little I prepared for this episode to make its
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authentic as possible.
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Well, you know what got mean thinking on this one is,
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you know, sometimes you see players in jerseys after they've
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been traded and it's just like, man, it just looks
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out of place. Like I remember when Againline went to
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Colorado or Flurry in Colorado. It was just weird. It
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was just like, am I seeing this right? And and
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then I started looking at the list of all time
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Flames players and it's like, man, I forgot that guy
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was a Flame. I know, I don't think of him
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as a flame, you know. And a lot of them
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came to mind, and they kept coming to mine, and
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it's like, you know what, Cal and I need to
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talk about this.
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Yeah, that's a good one. The weirdest example of any
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player on any team I could ever think of and
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I have this image burd to my head is Eddie
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belfors a santles a shark. It's the strangest thing. And
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I have like this this image from Google im that
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just stuck in my brain.
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You want to know, it's weird. And this maybe just
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because I'm from the States, but Eddie belfour in Toronto
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was weird to me.
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Yeah, he was actually quite successful there.
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It was.
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It was there for two maybe three seasons anyway.
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And he played quite a few games there. But it
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still is weird to me because like if you said
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ed Belfoord to me, like he played at the University
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of North Dakota, so like the Ed Belfoir is the man. Yeah,
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if I if you say at bell for it's Chicago Blackhawks,
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Dallas Stars. Absolutely absolutely.
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So before we get into that, I always like to
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give a show out and we have a new follower.
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And I was in Halifax on business a few weeks
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ago and met Catherine Melnick, who was super cool. She
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was the bartender at the bar that I was sitting at,
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so she kept me entertained and turns out she collects
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T shirts and she immediately followed her podcast on the
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spot so Catherine, I owe you a T shirt and
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actually several others because evidently you collect them. Yeah, thanks
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keeping company, thanks for following the show, and yeah this
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has been your shout out, so thanks again. All right, yeah,
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so where do we even begin or we do we
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even begin? We just dive right in, oh.
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The top of the list. To me, the weirdest seeing
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him in a Flames jersey was just frigging weird.
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Got me younger.
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I still think about that. It's like, I it was
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just an awkward year.
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That was seventeen eighteen. I want to say it was.
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He played twenty two games, only.
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One goal, assisted by Johnny Goudreau, and I fought five assists.
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Maybe Yeah, I don't.
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Know, man, it's just you know, that's gonna be a
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trivia question.
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Yeah, who did Yarmor Yagura finish his NHL career with?
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Who is the only Canadian team Yamary Yoga ever played for?
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True?
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Very Yeah? Really? And the weird thing I remember the
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most about that, and it bothers me to this day,
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is that, allegedly, and I think Brian Burke has confirmed this,
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the team was considering signing one of Yarmor Yogur or
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Jerome aginlaw Huh. It breaks my heart to this day.
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Some things you just never get over.
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But I think it's probably it's probably good the way
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again Lawent and the time.
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but that just out of it. So much fun to
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see him on a line with Kudrow. Imagine a prime
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Agodloa with Udrow. Anyway, I'm gonna throw some random ones
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are kind of quick hits because these episodes are typically
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a little shorter anyway, But some strange ones are just
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jumping on my brain, which is where the authentic part
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of this comes from.
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Jeffrieson who he's on my list? Yeah, he had a
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really good career in San Jose into a Lestrixton and Anaheim.
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I think he was traded with part of a Steve
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Shields trade for Timoosolani. I want to say, I don't
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know why my brain remembers that, but.
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He played seventy two games.
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It was a flying and he had what a goal?
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Maybe I don't know remember when Jeff Friesian was supposed
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to be like the deal. Remember I worked this is
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way back when I was in college, and I work with
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this guy that went. They went to high school with
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Jeff Friesian and he's like, Oh, he's going to be
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a big guy in the Anhel He's going to be
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a big guy. And he was right when he was
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just starting in San Jose. It's like, oh that didn't
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pan out.
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Oh yeah, yeah it was. It was really I Now,
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rumor on on here, but if I remember correctly, and
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he's fairly candid about jeffries and I believe had either
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substance to issue or a psychological issue which kind of
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derailed his career because he was a super effective winger.
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When I think about those late nineties Santas Sharks teams,
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that's him and Olan Nolan all day in my brain.
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Right. Yeah. I believe he's from Estaman too, which is
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just not very far from where I live. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
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that's pretty.
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But you know, that was a signing that really he
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wore number sixteen. That's a signing that really excited me
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at the time. So I'll rattle him off in a
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couple of others. I don't want to hear more from you, Okay, Right,
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two guys that I'm going to see the Hockey Heroes
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tournament Tony Monty and.
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Darren McCarty Amantis on the list.
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Amanti is one of my all time favorite NHL players
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Let alone the Flame, and he and McCarty signed in
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that same post lockout summer when all of a sudden
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every team was unequal footing. So love those two guys.
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McCarty's a wonderful human being as well. But it was
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so strange to see those two, you know, wearing that.
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The Black Sea at the time.
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Was super surprised. Do you know how many games Tony
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and Monty played for the Flames?
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One hundred and sixty one.
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Oh, that was so close playing and go to Vegas, O, man,
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that is wild. Yeah, I was sicking seventy nine and
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eighty one games, but anyway I was, and he had
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forty two ish and thirty ish points in those two seasons.
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Don't close enough, close enough. So those were two that
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are really cool but really odd. Who you got, give
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me some mothers?
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Well, I got one. That's crazy. Nikolai Borshevski. Oh yeah,
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eight games, man.
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You know that's dirty. That's why that's so far off
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the board. That's a dirty player.
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Oh that was and another one that I don't think of.
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I mean it was a weird one because we'll talk
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about him in future episodes, but it was a guy
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that when we saw kind him, I was like super pumped.
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But seeing Owen Nolan in a Flames jersey seventy seven
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games was weird. Weird.
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He had to make amends with Robin Gear from when
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he got drilled, when he's playing for the least the
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year prior. Remember that.
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I do know that you say that.
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I think he bought him a watch. I think.
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I like Robin Gear. He's in my Top Flames all
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Time Fames Fleet, all favorite players.
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Holy as he should be, as he should be.
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We should do on that too. You've never done that
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on Rober Gear. No like our top ten all time
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favorite Flames.
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We've got all summer. Baby, let's do it. Give me
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another one. I got a few more.
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I got two more that I do not think of
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them as Flames ever. Is Oly Jokin and Dougie Hamilton.
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I just don't. They both played over two hundred games,
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say Oli Joka and what do you think Florida Panthers.
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the Flames only because in that trade deadline in two
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thousand and nine, I was so excited that we acquired him,
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only to be absolutely just beyond disappointed. Also notable for
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wearing number twenty one and number thirteen is a flame. Yeah,
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and Hamilton, I can't justify why you see it that way,
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but I mean it's interesting that you do.
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I know, because he played two hundred and forty five games.
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a weird one of mine. That's probably I'm probably way
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off the board there. I know, I know, I know
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ten years from now, if we did this episode, I
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know two guys that would be on that list, Tyson
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Barry and Anthony Mantha. We both remember them because it's
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just so recent.
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I will obvious at the game when Mantha towards ACL
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in Montreal also had a wicked resurgent.
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Ear with the Pittsburgh Penguins, for what it's worth, And yeah,
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we will have forgotten he was a flame for thirteen game.
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We will forget that.
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forgets was a flame but I'll never let it go.
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As Mark Sad, I know you never will live.
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I will never ever ever let that go anyway. More
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obvious big name that still makes no sense was Grant
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Fear you know, Oiler, probably the greatest goaltender in Oiler's history.
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Twenty three games played for the Flames.
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Twenty three miserable games, five wins.
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the board than that one. That one is really off
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the board though, because he was an Oiler greed.
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Let me try and guess.
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Got three headed admonsters. Yeaheah yeah, k walk Off.
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That's a good one. He didn't play too many games here.
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Yeah, I just sold that game more in toscoa, Jersey,
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actually for way less than I paid. Unfortunately. Uh.
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Curtis Joseph, Yep, he's on my list. Nine games.
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Fucking love Curtis Joseph. And he was so good in
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that relief game against San Jose in the playoffs.
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There's one you're not gonna get, okay.
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Fun fact though, Curtis Joseph was a Calgary Flame twice
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because he was traded to Calgary by Detroit. Yeah or no, sorry,
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by Toronto and then so Calgary give that compensory pick
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when he signed the Detroit in two thousand and two. Okay,
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there's something wrong with me anyway, go on, you.
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Want me to tell you the one you're not gonna
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get that. I don't think you're gonna come up with.
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When I think of him, I think him of it
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as a goalie, okay. And when I think of him,
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I think him as a Vancouver Canuck.
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Hold on, don't give me this fine, I'm kind of
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It's not Jacob Markstrom.
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No, no, no, no, he played one game? Played one game?
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What season?
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O one o two? So we had Roman turk uh Man.
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I'm going through all these like now, I'm thinking like
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Fred Brathway, Danny Sabern, Who was that? I give up?
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Kay Whitmore?
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Oh Saint John Flames legend, k Whitmore Wow, wow dirty.
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jass Care. Everybody thinks they have.
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He had a wicked setup in Calgary. His gear was killer.
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do That's another topic. I always love Jonas.
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Hiller's Yeah, you've said that many times. The Black Black
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Comble with the gold Bars. Also, Nicholas Backstrom had a
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really rang six set up as a flame his last
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NHL win to believe a four one win against somebody.
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Actually another a guy that you would not remember being
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Minnesota wild history.
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I got a couple other ones that are kind of
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mediocre ones, but I'll rattle through him real quick and
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we can talk about him. Devin said of Gucci.
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me like fifty six goals one year.
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I don't know, not in Calgary, but anyway, yeah, maybe
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not in gagery. We'd still be talking to Wild played
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a statue if he had fifty six goals in Calgary,
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right Coda Leek remember him the old Buffalo.
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It was one of his jerseys on eBay right now,
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Actually one of his flames ones.
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He's a guy that nobody remembers. Chris Drury is another guy.
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Yes that's been met Wall because he wanted out and
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he was part he got traded to Buffalo, where he
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became co captain for Stephen, Ryan Prect and Rhett Warner. Yep,
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so I remember that very well.
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He forgets him. Everybody forgets Nick Shore.
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And Devon Shore.
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Yeah, you could bring the richies back into the Mikes too.
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I just saw a picture of Devin City, Jersey. It's weird.
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in Calgary for a little bit, a little while. But
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I probably wouldn't think of him as a flame. I
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would think of him as a knack, wouldn't you.
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He's also in Hockey Heroes and yeah, but all he
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had a pretty good stint in Calgary. Also, I don't
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know where I got my thoughts on Devin Citagucci. He
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never scored more than thirty some goals.
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Oh really, So you're you were flat out wrong on that,
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but you've been right on everything else.
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Is that's pretty much what happens? Yeah, Calgary Flames, twelve games,
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zero points. Oof. Anyway, you know two that.
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but they should probably. And because I think if you
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asked the average hockey fan, I think we all remember
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in Calgary very distinctly. But the rest of the hockey
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world probably doesn't remember that Brett Hall and Martin Saint
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Louis you were in Calgary.
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you know, incredible players later in their careers. But nobody
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thinks of Brett Hall is a Calgary flame, and nobody
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thinks of Martessa Luis as a Cogary flame, even though
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I have a graded Saloe rookie.
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Card fifty seven games sixty nine, fifty seven for Holes,
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sixty nine for Saint Louis.
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Saluis had three goals and fifteen assists in ninety nine
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two thousand, I believe for the flames really, yeah, yeah,
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there's a there's some really useless information up here.
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There is, you know, a lot of stuff that I
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don't know that You're.
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Right, Michael Claire former Anaheim Duck. That was a really
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random flame too. Yeah.
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you know, their stints for short.
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And when you think, ooh, Brad Stewart, Yeah that's right now,
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this sounds a shark.
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Ian cole or no Ian White, Ian White, Ian White.
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Oh his life turned tragic. That's a sad one.
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Yep, but he was a flame for a while. He
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was actually really good in congery.
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Yeah, until he broke him in Linco's neck. That wasn't
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so good. But no, I didn't mean to, No, I know,
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I know. Yeah, he's had a rough. Did you ever
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watched the documentary on him? It's sad?
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No, I haven't.
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Yeah, I look that up on YouTube. It's crazy. Who
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else this is fun? Doing it like this? Like I
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don't know you, but I know you have a list
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and I have little one in my head. But like
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this is really off the tough.
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mean I wanted to And that's kind of what this
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topic is too, you know what I mean. I wanted
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us to come up with guys like you. Frederick Modine.
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I had one of his game warns too. And here's
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a weird Freddie Modine fact. What did he play four games?
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I don't know, I don't know. I just got I
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don't know.
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I'm telling you as a fact, Freddy Modeinen played four
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games as a Calgary Flame and wore three different jerseys.
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He wore the red flags, the white flags, and the
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retro It really games and there's a guy named Bill
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and Calgary who had the red and the white. No,
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the red and the red, and I sold him the white. Wow.
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Yeah, so that's an obscure We've got a show on
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obscure flames players.
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I don't think I've ever told you this.
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Oh no, what?
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Oh thank god I can share this information with someone.
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All my buddy Whitey that lives two blocks over. He
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loves Freddie Wooing because he's a Tampa fan. But anyway,
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I digress. Who else looking around the road fence? Yes,
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part of the field flurry trade. I believe, Yes, he
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was ri Ip.
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Smid.
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You want to know one that probably wish I could
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wish that we never would have seen in Calgary was
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Troy Brower.
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Oh we'll save that for another episode that's coming up
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on another Yeah, yeah, tune in next week. Yeah Troy
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brow Yeah. Yeah, now the Okay, now, we're gonna need
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to scure ones that are gonna spoil our next episode.
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So well, he'll avoid the other guy we're both thinking
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of right now, James Leal Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah,
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who else? Peter Buzick it's a random one. I had
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high hopes for money was acquired from Atlanta for Jeff Cowen.
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But we're getting way too down there at all.
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Now, you know, I think there's probably a lot of
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them that we're here, you know, like I decided to
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look at guys like where they were here for a
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short stance, like when you think back, you're not. I mean,
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do you think here's this is just the interesting? This
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is a slightly off coolic quite interesting. I always think,
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you know, like if a guy was gonna go into
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the Hall of Fame, what team would you go under?
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Like your army, you argue? We talked about him. I
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think Pittsburgh Penguins immediately. Now, he played for a lot
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of teams.
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A hell of a lot of teams, had a Monster
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in New York and O five, O six as well.
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But I think the vast majority of the NHL fans
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would say Pittsburgh Bankuins.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You know Jerome again, I think would think ninety nine
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percent of the hockey world is going to say Calgary Flames. Yep.
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We've had a lot of guys come through Calgary that
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we surely aren't going to remember them for their time
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in Calgary, and the list is a lot and a
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lot of it happened too, because I mean, I think
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of all the day, all the guys in when Sutter
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was here that he would bring in, just older veterans
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right at the end of their career, and a lot
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of them are really effective. But they were only here
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one in two years, right, yep, lots of them. How
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about Todd Bertuzzi, there's one.
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He was really effective actually that one year the reason
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they signed him.
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You want to know something, though, have you ever been
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to an NHL game and sat in the road directly
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behind the bench? Now it's a shitty seat, but have
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you ever done it?
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Negative?
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I did it in Vancouver only because that was the
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only ticket I could get. But a buddy of mine
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sat where. It was Canucks against the Minnesota Wild, and
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we were in the front row right behind the Canucks bench,
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And I watched Todd Bertuzzi that whole game, and his
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mannerisms in the way he was on the bench made
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me believe that the whole team hated his guts.
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It's kind of funny.
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You look like a complete asshole on the bench mark
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Crawford was coaching, I believe at the time too.
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Speaking of assholes anyway, Yeah, I throw in there. Who
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else will wrap this one up? Let's see who else
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was really obscure Calgary flame.
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I don't think we're gonna get past Nikolai Borshewski, are we?
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No, the high watermarks already have been set. I feel
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like there's somebody that should be more obvious, or maybe
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shouldn't be obvious, And I'm just not thinking.
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Of There's been a few fighters, and why are they
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not coming to my mind right now? There's been a
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few fighters that Oh you mentioned McCarty.
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Oh b lack, McCarty, Aaron, Chris Simon was really I.
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Mean Chris Simon. We're gonna remember him just because of
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the four run But I think if you ask the
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you know, hockey fans around the league, who you know
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Chris Simon, they're not gonna tell you. They're not gonna
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say they're not gonna remember him as a flame.
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You remember his great air in Washington?
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Why do I think of him? And yeah, I kind
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of think I'm in Washington. Yager was in Washington too,
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wasn't he.
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Yeah, it's funny. I'm looking at a list of scare
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flames online and we've already named every single one of
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them on the list.
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Yeah, we nailed it. Yeah, it's hm right off season.
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It is definitely off season. Yeah, but that's how we're
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doing these special episodes and I enjoy these shorter, condensed
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special episode where.
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We well, it's easy to find the energy for them
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because they're interesting topics and you know, we're not focused
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on news, you know what I mean. So there's really
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no there's no uh, maybe no pressure. I don't know.
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Tony Ludman, which was spelled lit Ludman, but he went
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on to have a pretty good career in Buffalo, but
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started as a Calgary Flame. Fun fact, I'll never forget
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this Tony Ludman in NHL I think it was two
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thousand and one. In the video game, got injured on
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my roster and his injury was a ruptured testicle. I
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don't know who programmed that in the video game.
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Hey, it happens.
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But it's been twenty five years and I still remember.
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That because that was a big deal for you. It
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wasn't it. You saw that.
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You're just like, what, Yeah, the fear of ever rupturing
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my own testicles was yeah, palpable after reading that and
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I honestly, you know, I can't think of better this
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show on so oh I love Leopold Minnesota Golden Gopher.
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Did he win to the Hoby Bakers don't know. I
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hate golfers like the golden golfers would just gophers both,
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all right? Gophers and ruptured testicles. That's today's show.
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Hey, I can listens right then a rupture testicle? No
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you can't, oh Man already. Flames fans enjoy the rest
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of the off season. We're back every single week talking
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Hey, everybody, welcome to another special episode of Flames Unfiltered.
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You know your house, you see.
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Connor Wilson has always raperate, and today we're going to
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do an episode I Forget. The official title was going
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to be you know the people we forgot were Flames.
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That's what it was. Thank you. That's how little. That's
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how little I prepared for this episode to make its
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authentic as possible.
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Well, you know what got mean thinking on this one is,
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been traded and it's just like, man, it just looks
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out of place. Like I remember when Againline went to
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was just like, am I seeing this right? And and
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Flames players and it's like, man, I forgot that guy
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was a Flame. I know, I don't think of him
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as a flame, you know. And a lot of them
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came to mind, and they kept coming to mine, and
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it's like, you know what, Cal and I need to
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player on any team I could ever think of and
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of North Dakota, so like the Ed Belfoir is the man. Yeah,
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so she kept me entertained and turns out she collects
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keeping company, thanks for following the show, and yeah this
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has been your shout out, so thanks again. All right, yeah,
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The top of the list. To me, the weirdest seeing
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him in a Flames jersey was just frigging weird.
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I still think about that. It's like, I it was
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just an awkward year.
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trivia question.
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Who is the only Canadian team Yamary Yoga ever played for?
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Very Yeah? Really? And the weird thing I remember the
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most about that, and it bothers me to this day,
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is that, allegedly, and I think Brian Burke has confirmed this,
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the team was considering signing one of Yarmor Yogur or
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Jerome aginlaw Huh. It breaks my heart to this day.
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see him on a line with Kudrow. Imagine a prime
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Agodloa with Udrow. Anyway, I'm gonna throw some random ones
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jumping on my brain, which is where the authentic part
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Jeffrieson who he's on my list? Yeah, he had a
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really good career in San Jose into a Lestrixton and Anaheim.
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Shields trade for Timoosolani. I want to say, I don't
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know why my brain remembers that, but.
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It was a flying and he had what a goal?
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to be like the deal. Remember I worked this is
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way back when I was in college, and I work with
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this guy that went. They went to high school with
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Jeff Friesian and he's like, Oh, he's going to be
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a big guy in the Anhel He's going to be
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a big guy. And he was right when he was
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just starting in San Jose. It's like, oh that didn't
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rumor on on here, but if I remember correctly, and
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he's fairly candid about jeffries and I believe had either
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substance to issue or a psychological issue which kind of
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derailed his career because he was a super effective winger.
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that's him and Olan Nolan all day in my brain.
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just not very far from where I live. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
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wore number sixteen. That's a signing that really excited me
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at the time. So I'll rattle him off in a
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couple of others. I don't want to hear more from you, Okay, Right,
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two guys that I'm going to see the Hockey Heroes
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tournament Tony Monty and.
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Darren McCarty Amantis on the list.
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Amanti is one of my all time favorite NHL players
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that same post lockout summer when all of a sudden
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every team was unequal footing. So love those two guys.
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McCarty's a wonderful human being as well. But it was
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so strange to see those two, you know, wearing that.
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The Black Sea at the time.
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and Monty played for the Flames?
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that is wild. Yeah, I was sicking seventy nine and
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eighty one games, but anyway I was, and he had
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forty two ish and thirty ish points in those two seasons.
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are really cool but really odd. Who you got, give
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me some mothers?
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Well, I got one. That's crazy. Nikolai Borshevski. Oh yeah,
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eight games, man.
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the board. That's a dirty player.
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about him in future episodes, but it was a guy
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that when we saw kind him, I was like super pumped.
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games was weird. Weird.
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He had to make amends with Robin Gear from when
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he got drilled, when he's playing for the least the
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year prior. Remember that.
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Time Fames Fleet, all favorite players.
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Holy as he should be, as he should be.
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We should do on that too. You've never done that
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on Rober Gear. No like our top ten all time
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favorite Flames.
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We've got all summer. Baby, let's do it. Give me
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another one. I got a few more.
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I got two more that I do not think of
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them as Flames ever. Is Oly Jokin and Dougie Hamilton.
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I just don't. They both played over two hundred games,
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say Oli Joka and what do you think Florida Panthers.
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the Flames only because in that trade deadline in two
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thousand and nine, I was so excited that we acquired him,
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only to be absolutely just beyond disappointed. Also notable for
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wearing number twenty one and number thirteen is a flame. Yeah,
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and Hamilton, I can't justify why you see it that way,
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I know, because he played two hundred and forty five games.
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a weird one of mine. That's probably I'm probably way
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off the board there. I know, I know, I know
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ten years from now, if we did this episode, I
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know two guys that would be on that list, Tyson
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Barry and Anthony Mantha. We both remember them because it's
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just so recent.
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I will obvious at the game when Mantha towards ACL
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in Montreal also had a wicked resurgent.
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Ear with the Pittsburgh Penguins, for what it's worth, And yeah,
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we will have forgotten he was a flame for thirteen game.
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As Mark Sad, I know you never will live.
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I will never ever ever let that go anyway. More
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obvious big name that still makes no sense was Grant
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Fear you know, Oiler, probably the greatest goaltender in Oiler's history.
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Twenty three games played for the Flames.
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Twenty three miserable games, five wins.
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the board than that one. That one is really off
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the board though, because he was an Oiler greed.
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actually for way less than I paid. Unfortunately. Uh.
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Curtis Joseph, Yep, he's on my list. Nine games.
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Fucking love Curtis Joseph. And he was so good in
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that relief game against San Jose in the playoffs.
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There's one you're not gonna get, okay.
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because he was traded to Calgary by Detroit. Yeah or no, sorry,
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by Toronto and then so Calgary give that compensory pick
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when he signed the Detroit in two thousand and two. Okay,
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there's something wrong with me anyway, go on, you.
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Want me to tell you the one you're not gonna
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get that. I don't think you're gonna come up with.
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When I think of him, I think him of it
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as a goalie, okay. And when I think of him,
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I think him as a Vancouver Canuck.
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No, no, no, no, he played one game? Played one game?
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Fred Brathway, Danny Sabern, Who was that? I give up?
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Kay Whitmore?
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jass Care. Everybody thinks they have.
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Comble with the gold Bars. Also, Nicholas Backstrom had a
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really rang six set up as a flame his last
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NHL win to believe a four one win against somebody.
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mediocre ones, but I'll rattle through him real quick and
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we can talk about him. Devin said of Gucci.
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I don't know, not in Calgary, but anyway, yeah, maybe
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not in gagery. We'd still be talking to Wild played
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a statue if he had fifty six goals in Calgary,
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It was one of his jerseys on eBay right now,
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Actually one of his flames ones.
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He's a guy that nobody remembers. Chris Drury is another guy.
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he was part he got traded to Buffalo, where he
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became co captain for Stephen, Ryan Prect and Rhett Warner. Yep,
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so I remember that very well.
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He forgets him. Everybody forgets Nick Shore.
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And Devon Shore.
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I just saw a picture of Devin City, Jersey. It's weird.
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He's also in Hockey Heroes and yeah, but all he
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had a pretty good stint in Calgary. Also, I don't
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know where I got my thoughts on Devin Citagucci. He
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never scored more than thirty some goals.
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but you've been right on everything else.
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zero points. Oof. Anyway, you know two that.
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We probably should mention, And they didn't really make my list,
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but they should probably. And because I think if you
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asked the average hockey fan, I think we all remember
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in Calgary very distinctly. But the rest of the hockey
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world probably doesn't remember that Brett Hall and Martin Saint
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Louis you were in Calgary.
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you know, incredible players later in their careers. But nobody
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thinks of Brett Hall is a Calgary flame, and nobody
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thinks of Martessa Luis as a Cogary flame, even though
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I have a graded Saloe rookie.
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Card fifty seven games sixty nine, fifty seven for Holes,
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sixty nine for Saint Louis.
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Saluis had three goals and fifteen assists in ninety nine
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two thousand, I believe for the flames really, yeah, yeah,
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there's a there's some really useless information up here.
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There is, you know, a lot of stuff that I
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don't know that You're.
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Right, Michael Claire former Anaheim Duck. That was a really
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random flame too. Yeah.
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Yeah, there's just been there's been quite a few that
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you know, their stints for short.
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And when you think, ooh, Brad Stewart, Yeah that's right now,
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this sounds a shark.
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Ian cole or no Ian White, Ian White, Ian White.
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Oh his life turned tragic. That's a sad one.
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Yep, but he was a flame for a while. He
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was actually really good in congery.
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Yeah, until he broke him in Linco's neck. That wasn't
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so good. But no, I didn't mean to, No, I know,
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I know. Yeah, he's had a rough. Did you ever
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watched the documentary on him? It's sad?
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No, I haven't.
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Yeah, I look that up on YouTube. It's crazy. Who
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else this is fun? Doing it like this? Like I
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don't know you, but I know you have a list
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and I have little one in my head. But like
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this is really off the tough.
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Yeah, I mean my list was really really short. I
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mean I wanted to And that's kind of what this
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topic is too, you know what I mean. I wanted
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us to come up with guys like you. Frederick Modine.
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I had one of his game warns too. And here's
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a weird Freddie Modine fact. What did he play four games?
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I don't know, I don't know. I just got I
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don't know.
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I'm telling you as a fact, Freddy Modeinen played four
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games as a Calgary Flame and wore three different jerseys.
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He wore the red flags, the white flags, and the
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retro It really games and there's a guy named Bill
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and Calgary who had the red and the white. No,
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the red and the red, and I sold him the white. Wow.
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Yeah, so that's an obscure We've got a show on
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obscure flames players.
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I don't think I've ever told you this.
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Oh no, what?
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Oh thank god I can share this information with someone.
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All my buddy Whitey that lives two blocks over. He
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loves Freddie Wooing because he's a Tampa fan. But anyway,
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I digress. Who else looking around the road fence? Yes,
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part of the field flurry trade. I believe, Yes, he
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was ri Ip.
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Smid.
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Oh yeah, he's like ashamed of his time in Calgary too.
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You want to know one that probably wish I could
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wish that we never would have seen in Calgary was
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Troy Brower.
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Oh we'll save that for another episode that's coming up
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on another Yeah, yeah, tune in next week. Yeah Troy
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brow Yeah. Yeah, now the Okay, now, we're gonna need
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to scure ones that are gonna spoil our next episode.
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So well, he'll avoid the other guy we're both thinking
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of right now, James Leal Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah,
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who else? Peter Buzick it's a random one. I had
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high hopes for money was acquired from Atlanta for Jeff Cowen.
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But we're getting way too down there at all.
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Now, you know, I think there's probably a lot of
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them that we're here, you know, like I decided to
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look at guys like where they were here for a
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short stance, like when you think back, you're not. I mean,
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do you think here's this is just the interesting? This
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is a slightly off coolic quite interesting. I always think,
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you know, like if a guy was gonna go into
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the Hall of Fame, what team would you go under?
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Like your army, you argue? We talked about him. I
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think Pittsburgh Penguins immediately. Now, he played for a lot
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of teams.
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A hell of a lot of teams, had a Monster
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in New York and O five, O six as well.
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But I think the vast majority of the NHL fans
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would say Pittsburgh Bankuins.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You know Jerome again, I think would think ninety nine
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percent of the hockey world is going to say Calgary Flames. Yep.
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We've had a lot of guys come through Calgary that
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we surely aren't going to remember them for their time
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in Calgary, and the list is a lot and a
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lot of it happened too, because I mean, I think
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of all the day, all the guys in when Sutter
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was here that he would bring in, just older veterans
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right at the end of their career, and a lot
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of them are really effective. But they were only here
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one in two years, right, yep, lots of them. How
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about Todd Bertuzzi, there's one.
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He was really effective actually that one year the reason
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they signed him.
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You want to know something, though, have you ever been
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to an NHL game and sat in the road directly
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behind the bench? Now it's a shitty seat, but have
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you ever done it?
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Negative?
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I did it in Vancouver only because that was the
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only ticket I could get. But a buddy of mine
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sat where. It was Canucks against the Minnesota Wild, and
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we were in the front row right behind the Canucks bench,
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And I watched Todd Bertuzzi that whole game, and his
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mannerisms in the way he was on the bench made
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me believe that the whole team hated his guts.
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It's kind of funny.
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You look like a complete asshole on the bench mark
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Crawford was coaching, I believe at the time too.
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Speaking of assholes anyway, Yeah, I throw in there. Who
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else will wrap this one up? Let's see who else
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was really obscure Calgary flame.
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I don't think we're gonna get past Nikolai Borshewski, are we?
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No, the high watermarks already have been set. I feel
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like there's somebody that should be more obvious, or maybe
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shouldn't be obvious, And I'm just not thinking.
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Of There's been a few fighters, and why are they
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not coming to my mind right now? There's been a
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few fighters that Oh you mentioned McCarty.
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Oh b lack, McCarty, Aaron, Chris Simon was really I.
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Mean Chris Simon. We're gonna remember him just because of
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the four run But I think if you ask the
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you know, hockey fans around the league, who you know
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Chris Simon, they're not gonna tell you. They're not gonna
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say they're not gonna remember him as a flame.
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You remember his great air in Washington?
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Why do I think of him? And yeah, I kind
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of think I'm in Washington. Yager was in Washington too,
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wasn't he.
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Yeah, it's funny. I'm looking at a list of scare
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flames online and we've already named every single one of
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them on the list.
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Yeah, we nailed it. Yeah, it's hm right off season.
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It is definitely off season. Yeah, but that's how we're
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doing these special episodes and I enjoy these shorter, condensed
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special episode where.
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We well, it's easy to find the energy for them
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because they're interesting topics and you know, we're not focused
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on news, you know what I mean. So there's really
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no there's no uh, maybe no pressure. I don't know.
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Tony Ludman, which was spelled lit Ludman, but he went
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on to have a pretty good career in Buffalo, but
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started as a Calgary Flame. Fun fact, I'll never forget
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this Tony Ludman in NHL I think it was two
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thousand and one. In the video game, got injured on
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my roster and his injury was a ruptured testicle. I
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don't know who programmed that in the video game.
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Hey, it happens.
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But it's been twenty five years and I still remember.
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That because that was a big deal for you. It
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wasn't it. You saw that.
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You're just like, what, Yeah, the fear of ever rupturing
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my own testicles was yeah, palpable after reading that and
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I honestly, you know, I can't think of better this
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show on so oh I love Leopold Minnesota Golden Gopher.
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Did he win to the Hoby Bakers don't know. I
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hate golfers like the golden golfers would just gophers both,
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all right? Gophers and ruptured testicles. That's today's show.
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Hey, I can listens right then a rupture testicle? No
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you can't, oh Man already. Flames fans enjoy the rest
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of the off season. We're back every single week talking
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