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Speaker 1: Coming up in about eight days' time, there's going to be a function at the Adelaide Zoo with the Zara Foundation, and it will feature our next guest, Tanya Hosh, focusing on a whole host of issues regarding inclusion, diversity, but also the chief focus of the Zara Foundation is, of course, empowering, protecting women. And part of that conversation is enshrining their economic future and taking steps to Because we know with our work with Catherine House and others too, certainly women that fall into difficult situations or impossibly difficult situations like domestic violence, the biggest hurdle to them being safe and secure is financial. Huge part of the issue. And it's something that Tanya Hosh is going to address as the keynote speaker for the Zara Foundation's event. Tanya, good morning to you and thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: It's such a big question, Tanya. It's such a loaded question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. How can we try and ensure that Australian women are economically safe and secure enough that if they do need to leave difficult situations, they feel empowered and safe to do that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very big answer there. Too long for this segment, I'm sure. But I think one of the things that we can do is make sure that we understand the complexity of of circumstances that place women in that situation. And when you think historically of the fact that women have interrupted careers when they choose to have children, when their superannuation is also interrupted, it does create, I think, a legacy of circumstances that mean that women really are very much on the back foot and financially speaking. And so when it comes to needing to escape an unsafe environment, particularly if you have children in tow, not having resources is often one of the reasons that women stay in circumstances that are just simply not safe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And that's, as you said, Will, it's what we hear time and time again from Catherine House and the other organisations that help women. And we hear it from the Hutt Street Centre as well. We hear it from Food Bank that older women is the highest rate of growth, the cohort that is more likely to be homeless in this economy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I think when we hear the statistics, we are just almost hearing on a daily basis of another woman or child that has had their life taken from them. You know, it can feel overwhelming. What do ordinary people do? I will definitely be seeking to recognise and celebrate the contributions of frontline workers who work in these services because I think their work is incredibly difficult, particularly when they know that they can't address all the needs that are being placed in front of them. But in addition to that, I think we all need to think about what is it that we can individually do? What is the call to action? that we can take. And, you know, I do think there are things that we can all do and certainly supporting the Zara Foundation is one of those.
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Speaker 1: Do we have an issue, Tanya, at all when it comes to the people that are hearing these messages? And I think about Zara Foundation, the wonderful events and the places they go to and the people that they're engaging with. getting these really positive and powerful messages reinforced. But I often wonder about how broad that message is and does it cross cultural divides? Does it cross language divides? We're a very diverse marketplace of people in Australia at the moment. And how do you– and you've had this role with the AFL before, of course, with social inclusion and so forth. You appreciate the complexity of these sorts of issues. Are we doing well in terms of broadcasting that message and those important lessons? to every part of Australia or are we doing exceptionally well at narrow casting it to one particular area?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's always going to be a challenge and it's a great question that you raise because we do need to be cognisant that there are going to be communities who are not going to hear well or necessarily understand what the circumstances are that we're talking about. I do think that people have become somewhat desensitised to these issues, particularly if the communication they receive is just about data but doesn't tell them about the action they can take. Certainly, I think that increasingly we all need to appreciate that we can't just leave it up to government and policing to to address these issues. We've really got to think about this from a systemic point of view. And I think as a community, all think about, well, what are the things that we can do to address these issues? And that includes thinking about the sorts of messages that we're sending our children at a young age. And I think thinking about the way that we all model behaviour that says to children and young people, these are respectful behaviours, these are the behaviours that are acceptable, because it's never just our words that send that message, it's also our actions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, Tanya. Thank you. Tanya Hosh, who, as you can tell, makes a living speaking about these issues and spreading those messages, will be doing precisely that at the Zara Foundation's event October 21 at the Adelaide Zoo. Thank you for your time, Tanya.
Speaker 1: Coming up in about eight days' time, there's going to be a function at the Adelaide Zoo with the Zara Foundation, and it will feature our next guest, Tanya Hosh, focusing on a whole host of issues regarding inclusion, diversity, but also the chief focus of the Zara Foundation is, of course, empowering, protecting women. And part of that conversation is enshrining their economic future and taking steps to Because we know with our work with Catherine House and others too, certainly women that fall into difficult situations or impossibly difficult situations like domestic violence, the biggest hurdle to them being safe and secure is financial. Huge part of the issue. And it's something that Tanya Hosh is going to address as the keynote speaker for the Zara Foundation's event. Tanya, good morning to you and thanks for joining us.
00:00:47
Speaker 2: Oh, good morning. Thanks for having me.
00:00:50
Speaker 3: It's such a big question, Tanya. It's such a loaded question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. How can we try and ensure that Australian women are economically safe and secure enough that if they do need to leave difficult situations, they feel empowered and safe to do that?
00:01:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very big answer there. Too long for this segment, I'm sure. But I think one of the things that we can do is make sure that we understand the complexity of of circumstances that place women in that situation. And when you think historically of the fact that women have interrupted careers when they choose to have children, when their superannuation is also interrupted, it does create, I think, a legacy of circumstances that mean that women really are very much on the back foot and financially speaking. And so when it comes to needing to escape an unsafe environment, particularly if you have children in tow, not having resources is often one of the reasons that women stay in circumstances that are just simply not safe.
00:02:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And that's, as you said, Will, it's what we hear time and time again from Catherine House and the other organisations that help women. And we hear it from the Hutt Street Centre as well. We hear it from Food Bank that older women is the highest rate of growth, the cohort that is more likely to be homeless in this economy.
00:02:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I think when we hear the statistics, we are just almost hearing on a daily basis of another woman or child that has had their life taken from them. You know, it can feel overwhelming. What do ordinary people do? I will definitely be seeking to recognise and celebrate the contributions of frontline workers who work in these services because I think their work is incredibly difficult, particularly when they know that they can't address all the needs that are being placed in front of them. But in addition to that, I think we all need to think about what is it that we can individually do? What is the call to action? that we can take. And, you know, I do think there are things that we can all do and certainly supporting the Zara Foundation is one of those.
00:03:33
Speaker 1: Do we have an issue, Tanya, at all when it comes to the people that are hearing these messages? And I think about Zara Foundation, the wonderful events and the places they go to and the people that they're engaging with. getting these really positive and powerful messages reinforced. But I often wonder about how broad that message is and does it cross cultural divides? Does it cross language divides? We're a very diverse marketplace of people in Australia at the moment. And how do you– and you've had this role with the AFL before, of course, with social inclusion and so forth. You appreciate the complexity of these sorts of issues. Are we doing well in terms of broadcasting that message and those important lessons? to every part of Australia or are we doing exceptionally well at narrow casting it to one particular area?
00:04:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's always going to be a challenge and it's a great question that you raise because we do need to be cognisant that there are going to be communities who are not going to hear well or necessarily understand what the circumstances are that we're talking about. I do think that people have become somewhat desensitised to these issues, particularly if the communication they receive is just about data but doesn't tell them about the action they can take. Certainly, I think that increasingly we all need to appreciate that we can't just leave it up to government and policing to to address these issues. We've really got to think about this from a systemic point of view. And I think as a community, all think about, well, what are the things that we can do to address these issues? And that includes thinking about the sorts of messages that we're sending our children at a young age. And I think thinking about the way that we all model behaviour that says to children and young people, these are respectful behaviours, these are the behaviours that are acceptable, because it's never just our words that send that message, it's also our actions.
00:05:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, Tanya. Thank you. Tanya Hosh, who, as you can tell, makes a living speaking about these issues and spreading those messages, will be doing precisely that at the Zara Foundation's event October 21 at the Adelaide Zoo. Thank you for your time, Tanya.
