Breakfast with David & Will - 20 January 2024

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Speaker 1: Is this thing on. It's good to be bad testing testing, good morning, Welcome to twenty twenty five, lovely to be here, Good time of the year. Two January twenty twenty five. Everyone's to do list is still pending. It's not failed. The country is still waking up, and so too is my co host, David Pemberthy, David, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Will, Good morning listeners. I see that one of those other vacuous FM stations has got some promo today where the new hosts are kicking things off in a zany fashion where they're starting the show in bed, in bed. I've done that at least four or five times since we've been working together. You're the pioneer in bed breakfast, get your own promotional concept exactly right. Hasn't anybody heard of the great post harvest Rocks Festival six twenty here?

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Speaker 1: You know it's cut through now to the kids. Yeah, it's become cool, Yeah, it's become brats. It's become rat Bratt twenty twenty XCEC whatever her name was said.

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Speaker 2: But no, happy new year to everybody. I hope you've had a good break Happy new year to you, Will. In keeping with tradition. Will I haven't spoken to each other since.

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Speaker 1: I think this might have been a record this time round. I reckon very few texts.

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Speaker 2: It was about nine o three am on about December the fifteenth at the Central Market where we said we'll have your Christmas mate. We'll see you in five weeks. So how have you been.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited, Thank you sir, it's going to be back.

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Speaker 2: I've barely left the Adelaide Slash all diding Get area in the last five weeks. I've had the ultimate staycation, the furthest a field I went was Manham. Big shout out to the many gen X revelers that Kate and I met a couple of well barely ten days ago at the Rock and the River concert with Iva Davies and Noise Works and the rest of.

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Speaker 1: The game you got along to that we went.

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Speaker 2: It was great. I bought Kate tickets for her birthday and we had a We had a fantastic weekend. We went to We went to every licensed premise in Manham. We went to the Pretoria of course, we went to the club, the Adham Club where Cake Slake's father was the president of the nineteen eighties and we had a really good time funnily enough at the somewhat earthy Bottom Pub in manhamon do tell Historically some people said, oh, I don't know about going to the Bottom Pub, but we caught this fantastic covers band from Gorla called heat Wave, who were really carving it up. They had a good chat to their lead singer.

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Speaker 1: What was what got the patrons at the Bottom up and about? On the set list, they.

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Speaker 2: Did a very good cover of Brian Adam Summer of sixteen nine. I really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: I can place the venue very entry level sort of songs that people actually good like good fun like that.

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Speaker 2: Good people.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're starting twenty twenty five at the Cracking Pace this morning. The Premier of South Australia is going to join us as we preview the year ahead with him. Also, we took about some immediate concerns as well with the whale of steel Works. That was a roller coaster ride of the last five weeks with regards to the storylines coming out of that part of South Australia. So we'll talk about that. Some good news out of the Middle East. It's a nice way to start the year as well. For us at very least. Jessica Millward is in Tel Aviv on speaking of rocky starts, the ceasefire has now begun in Earnest with the exchange of the first three hostages back to Israel, and there's been raucous scenes on the on the streets of Tel Aviv. So we'll cross there after six thirty today. Stephen Rowe is back on deck. Stacy Lee is going to join us. Big news. Amanda Rishworth has is it the poison Chalice? He's going to take carriage of the Ndies portfolio from Bill Short and I think that's the biggest job in Australian politics, right, tough job. So the member for Kingston, their beautiful seat in the South spit. It sounds like you spent a bit of your time in the See of Kings very much.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the last I could, I could become the local member the way on going my knowledge of the Amanda watch out, I think probably a couple of things. Having in Manham last weekend, there'd be another black market.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you're in the river lands.

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Speaker 2: I know, whatever I get within killey of the Murray, things go terribly wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure they've got a Rapidy's Rule style approach down there. Now we've got Zoo passes to give away and excite. We're welcoming a new member of the five double a Breakfast program this year. Their text line is brought to us by Police Home Care. We did a little bit of work with Police Homecare at the end of last year and then jumped on board in a big way. The text line obviously a huge part of the show. We love You contributions zero before at zero eight, thirteen ninety five all thanks now to the this year Police Home Care. They are and is registered speaking of Amanda Rishworth, and they're not just for police police is the point they bring the credibility if you.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to have arrested anybody to be looked after them. That's what's the catch line, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: They do a wonderful job and we're delighted to have them on board. They're well worth you checking out if you do need some assistance, whatever it will be.

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Speaker 2: Of the Police Home Care text line. A lot of lovely and warm texts from our excellent listeners. Mark says, welcome back lads, Thank you Mark, Rob Rob, We love Rob welcome back guys. Are you too like the old Leading Tunes cartoon Sheep, Dog and Wolf who clock in and a clock off each day? Yeah, that's pretty littim analogy. One here says Will and Dave, welcome back, Never leave me again, We won't. Joe says, welcome back, Fitty, Well he would need I'll tell you what, though most people they come back, they weren't. You think I don't know it'll work, and there's always a bit of that. The alarm went off this morning and I went, seriously, is this what I do for a living?

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Speaker 3: But the actually I didn't thnk that right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm not going to act on it because working with you and having your listeners makes all of this entertaining and fun.

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Speaker 1: The alarm's the only bad part. That said, I added a new ingredient this morning. I wonder if anyone else is doing this at the moment any I'm not of news resolution type of guy, but I just had this, this idea, and I did it this morning. You've done this before, so you'll know you have immediate sympathy for me. I thought, I'm going to start taking the stairs this year. I'm taking the stairs up from the car park to level four. That's going to be my new thing. And really I almost didn't make it to the studio, but Sam was rubbing the defibrillators together by the time I got the top of that. It's harder than I thought.

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Speaker 2: It's a decent trip, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I just thought, if I do that every day, it cut up and down, that's got to be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Does doesn't Cornsy do? That? Isn't Cornsey a big running up the stairs?

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Speaker 1: Cornsey's a fit guy. I'm happy to being.

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Speaker 2: Cornsey is like, he's probably fitter than me. Well that's not saying much, is it.

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Speaker 1: But he's very fit.

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Speaker 2: He's strapping. He's like a racing dog that he plays golf about five times a week as well.

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Speaker 1: What if anyone else has made any regrettable twenty twenty five life changes?

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Speaker 2: I always reckon make really achievable ones.

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Speaker 1: Sam Dada shaved his head. He just took his hat off in his side my hair. So this is a regret.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 1: You're entering it into the conversation this morning.

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Speaker 2: Like a number five. Sam, it's number five? Did you go even shorter than that? In the first ince? Is what like a number two number three.

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Speaker 1: I like that he did a dramatic reveal. Yeah, I should have saved it for the live stream.

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Speaker 2: We might get him in here A spot him.

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Speaker 1: You'll spot him if you jump on board.

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Speaker 2: Set really achievable New Year's resolution. I've said one years ago only to eat sugar free chewing gum. Whenever I eat chewing the only eat the sugar free variety. So don't go the juicy fruit of the p CA.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Only extra or similar is this has just.

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Speaker 1: Started or you've been I've never looked back. You're a different man about.

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Speaker 2: Three times a year later, piece of chewing gum, only sugar free. You're unrecognizable since that charge, well, it gives you a sense of achievement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. That's good. Fifteen after six, we're gonna jump into the news headlines next.

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Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast not a.

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Speaker 1: Minutes after six. Let's jump into these news headlines. On this Monday, the twentieth of January, Essay Health has issued an alert after a positive measles case visited a number of sites around Adelaide. The three year old had recently returned from Vietnam and visited the locations while infectious. They include Kmart at Engle Farm that was last Wednesday evening. There is a full list of sites that's available on the Essay Health website and people have been in those locations during those times are being advised to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it a full list of sites of where people have been spreading something.

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Speaker 1: To part of the US? President Joe Biden says the Middle East has been fundamentally transformed by fifteen months of conflict, a ceasefire now in effect in Gaza. The first three Israeli hostages have been released by Hamas in return for the first ninety Palestinian prisoners held by Israel. Speaking on his final day in office before President elect Donald Trump is inaugurated, President Biden signaled it will be up to his successor to ensure that the ceasefire holds.

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Speaker 6: Mass sponsors and the Middle East have been badly weakened by Israel back by the United States. Has Blah, one of her Massa's biggest backers, was significantly weakened in the battlefield and as the leadership was destroyed and now files and the next administration to help implement this deal?

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Speaker 2: How'd you been not seeing your kids for fifteen months? Four hundred and seventy one days. We got a kids' baby sat last Friday, so we could have dinner down at the little Richard and Ldinger with a couple of mates. Are over from in a state. When we saw them Saturday, it was like, Charlie, how I hadn't seen them for thirty six hours? Yeah? Well not even how do they? How those parents dealt with it?

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Speaker 1: Just awful. One of the hostages of return, it's just a small human thing. I thought, what's that experience been like? Beyond being captured? She had her fingers blown off. Now, I don't know what the standard of healthcare is like when you're in an underground mass tunnel, but I'm guessing it's not state of the art. What an experience over although.

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Speaker 2: The other two, including the other two hostages, really so far they've said that they're all in good health. They seem to be in good health, but what's that a mental state would you be in? And then you look at all the ones who died and you think, how did I pull through this? It's just hard to wrap your head around. It isn't it. Hopefully it holds is again to hold as long are the people who are the people who have been laid out by Israel too. There's one thousand and nineteen. There's nineteen hundred of them, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: They didn't parking infringements.

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Speaker 2: Nay.

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Speaker 1: They tend to be the worst of the worst. It's a huge trade off. It's massive, and you talk about how flimsy the whole thing is. Overnight, if we'd done our show a few hours earlier, we might have been having a different conversation because there was some logistical issue where they were meant to exchange the names of hostages in advance of the hostages, and Hama said, we can't do that, and they even used the language like for logistical or bureaucratic reasons, probably because they didn't even know the names of the people were. And so then Israel started bombing again. Yeah, and then they funnel enough they came up with their names. So it's very, very flimsy at this point in time. How about this, Speaking of flimsy, Anthony Alberneze's hold on the prime ministership the opposition leader is level with Anthony Alberonzi. Peter Dutton that is for the first time as preferred Prime minister. Latest polling conducted by Freshwater Strategy shows law and order as the top of voters' minds, which it has been in much of the Western world and seen incumbent governments punished for it. That comes in the way here in Australa, of course, a series of anti Semitic attacks that have continued over the last five weeks. Forty three percent of Australians prefer Anthony Albernezi and that's the same numbers as Peter Dutton for the top job. Typically, incumbents pold much better than their oppositions.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only recent local example we've had of an opposition leader who for a significantly long period ended up with a higher approval rating than the incumbent was Peter Mallenhousk. He overtook Stephen Marshall in the dying months of COVID and it was a real eyebrow raising moment where a lot of people who followed politics went that's pretty weird because it shows doesn't usually comfort with the alternative and entrench dissatisfaction with the one who's running the show.

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Speaker 1: There will be an election lader this year maybe with Peter Dutton's year. A few of our Texters on the Police' Home Care text line this morning have been pointing out who's year it might be. There's been a few football nominations. Could be the Crozy year twenty twenty five. Peter and Charles says twenty twenty five will be the year of Sturt Well, could be this year. Whose year will twenty twenty five be? Maybe Sentius some suggestions? Who will own twenty twenty five zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five the Police Home Care text line.

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Speaker 2: Rob is off the dark in the hilarity stakes for twenty twenty five as well. This is in relation to Wills New Year's resolution of not coming up in the elevator anymore but taking.

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Speaker 1: It was about a five thirty am resolution.

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Speaker 2: For one day. Rob says, I understand Will Goodings has a few of lifts, but he's taking steps to avoid them.

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Speaker 1: Rob doesn't mean that he's terrific. He's on.

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Speaker 2: He's on.

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Speaker 1: Rob's like a watermelon twenty two point two degrees outside of the city at the moment, heading for a top of thirty four today.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: It is seriously seriously hot.

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Speaker 2: That's my first stunning observation for the year.

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Speaker 1: To keep the hot takes coming hot enough for you tomorrow thirty degrees.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one hot take hashtag. I stand with Tony Jones.

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Speaker 1: This Tom Wren's coming in. I message Sam dw I messaged Sam Dado about this because I was going to say the same Bary to have a fight with you about this.

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Speaker 2: Those those Serbian fans, they drive me mad in the same way that I'm also standing with that loudmouthed American.

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Speaker 1: Shealer who Denie Hill Collins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought those Australian fans were a total pain in the bart. All these fans at the tennis need to be tied out of bathe themselves, but they rap bag Serbian allied halfwits or the members of the fanatics.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Tanny Jon's anything. I think it was funny. I think it felt pretty flat, to be honest. But I thought I just had this feeling and then and it totally evaporated that after what we saw politically at the end of last year and all the debate, it was like the end of the the turbo charged political correctness, you know, we're coming out of the air.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He gets bat where everyone was loosening the belt a little bit and then all of a sudden, Jone says Novak's overrated and well bore. Three are ups at the tennis.

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Speaker 2: I know if you overrated, he has won ten Australian Open.

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Speaker 1: That's the sort of humor anyway. Tom Rener is here on the piaf A Blaw Breakfast studio. He is our tennis six but Col Glarol now order a new door with operator before the end of February received two extra handsets. Rena, I just want to play this and were to get your takee because you've worked at the tennis, You've not done you know, Tony Jones, you know Novak Djokovic have a little bit of a listen for those that missed it. This is him standing in front of a bunch of chanting Serbian fans whilst on the nine.

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Speaker 7: Coverage Jactor Melbourne Park, where you can see the Novak Djokovic fans there in full voice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the chances are quite a surely.

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Speaker 8: Novak he's overrated.

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Speaker 6: Novaks has the no back kick him in.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad they can't hear me.

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Speaker 1: And he was never now that happened, and there was a bit of social media archie bargie. Here's Novak Djokovic last night after his game length.

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Speaker 9: To just clarify the reason and why the interview was not conducted on the court a postmatch interview like it's a common usual practice. A couple of days ago, the famous sports journalist who works for official broadcaster Channel nine here in Australia made a mockery of Serbian fans and also made insulative and insulting and offensive comments towards me, and since then he chose not to issue any public apology. Neither did Channel nine. So since there are official broadcasters, I chose not to give interviews for Channel nine. I have nothing against Jim Courreer, neither the Australian public.

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Speaker 2: And it was a.

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Speaker 9: Very awkward situation for me to face on the court today and it's unfortunate I chose to say something to the crowd, but as he was entertainment and space situation for me to explain what I'm doing right now, So I leave it to Channel nine to handle this the way they think they see FIDS.

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Speaker 2: I was editing a newspaper the back page Splash headline will be Novaksukovic. Yeah, well, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't imagine he would he would ever talk to the newspaper again, you know, I would soldier on news.

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Speaker 10: I think Tony be happy that he's been called a famous.

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Speaker 2: Journalist Tommy Ran, that's for sure.

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Speaker 10: It's a bit of a storm and a tea cup, isn't it. I mean he didn't say anything racist, you know, he was just a bit of tongue cheek, like well said, I think it fell a bit flat.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was I don't think it was funny. It was now gotten funnier because of how people have reacted to him.

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Speaker 10: It's just taken on a lot of its own, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: But those fans down there, they've been annoying for them.

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Speaker 10: Well, and I totally agree with you about Daniel Collins. I thought I thought that was a bit of theater. I actually liked what she did, so I thought, good on you, Like she's funny. You need to create your own energy when people are cheering against you and cheering faults and all that kind of stuff. If that hypes you up and gets you going, and you don't mind being the pantomime villain. Good on you. That's that's the energy that you want to create.

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Speaker 2: That I watched that game where she beat the Melbourne girl with the island the background. Yeah, I was cheering Destiny on obviously of course and thinking this is such a great win. I didn't know anything about her.

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Speaker 10: She's had a really tough story, totally gone through a fair bit.

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Speaker 2: But having said that, every time the American woman was serving, you know, people calling out what was it while the balls in the air, cheering first first service faults like totally unsportsmanlike.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and it happened a very bit against and it's not Fanasti Kock and Arcis's fault, but it happened to Jack Draper when he was playing Fanasi out at John Can Arena, which is where the general admission crowd can get in. So it gets pretty unruly out there. And look, you know, you don't want to sound like you're stuck up or haughty, Tody, but you're right, there's etiquette. You know, they're out there playing. You can show a little bit of respect than a little bit. So look, I think this issue could have just gone away. But now that Novak's done what he's done, it is going to take on a life of its own, and Tony probably needed a couple of armored guards to take him around Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Australian Open is going to say, listen, mate, you don't get to decide who isn't isn't on the broadcast and what they do or do not say. That's not the way this country works.

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Speaker 1: Suck it up that Djokovic eve an entire country for banning him entry to it. I reckon he might want to get over a bloke saying you're overrated tongue in cheek pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Did he poison him to you? Didn't He suggest that he got poisoned in.

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Speaker 1: His back, So he's got the capacity to get over for the slights.

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Speaker 2: Certainly bounces back from being poisoned by the experimental vaccine just very quickly.

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Speaker 10: A couple of winners.

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Speaker 1: Adelaide United good fo not being there on the weekend Melbourne victory, top of the table.

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Speaker 10: I've been a few games this season and my eleven year old Harry wanted to go but down at Victor which was great, but couldn't get there. Thirty six is after a very tumultuous week. Great win for them. The women's win at Miaomi Rouge has won the women's to it and under, but the spectator that got hit on Saturday night, that was horrific. Tottenham, I don't know Vange Postakovolo is going to last a week. They're fifteenth and the Adelaide striker is very disappointing season unfortunately. Hopefully they'll bounce back next season.

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Speaker 2: But that wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: Good on your reading.

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Speaker 5: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, double a breakfast, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four minutes to see it, and we're crossing to Tel Aviv in Israel very shortly. Jubilant scenes on the streets there with the first successful prisoner swap meaning that the ceasefire is holding in these precious opening few hours. So we're head there in just a few minutes. The premiere of South Australia coming up after seven o'clock this morning. A couple of issues and some good texts on the Police Home Care text line as well from listeners with some ideas, some prompts to speak to the premier about. We wanted to talk about Whaler the year ahead, but the clarification regarding the legal requirement that hospitals take carriage of ambulance patients. It's not up to the ambulance, it's up to the hospital. Has some people raising eyebrows and the opposition among them, as you might well imagine, But our text is too saying can we just hear a bit of an explanation on that from the premiere because it sounds a lot like an idea that would artificially reduce ramping numbers without actually improving patient care.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think it was two years ago on the show in his very first interview of twenty twenty three, where we asked the premiere, when are we going to see the reduction in ramping? And he said, I would expect that by the end of next year. That is last year we would see the figures trending down. Was that one that didn't really happen? Is that one good month? Yeah? They had one cracking month.

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Speaker 1: The premiere after seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: This what he wanted to say, an election year this year? Or this isn't it effectively?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you get Christmas on the way.

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Speaker 2: From March onwards, we are in the twelve month countdown to the twenty twenty sixth election. Question remains, what's going on with the opposition these day.

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Speaker 1: Who's left, Well, the' Vincitarzia he's locked in, so they haven't got they lost their debt since we've left, they've lost their deputy leader.

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Speaker 2: And Jingle's also announced that the deputy leader in both houses she was, she's out, she's now an independent.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't looking great, are they?

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Speaker 2: No? The Mally and his fifty nine MPs versus whoever's left there at Liberal HQ.

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Speaker 1: He must we just announce the ramping. Things not gonna happen today.

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Speaker 2: It's five.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he will, he's coming.

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Speaker 2: I had a rush of blood of there. Look, sometimes we all say silly things in the heat of the moment. Sometimes we make thousands and thousands of posters and stick them up on every staby pile. Who can honestly say they've never done that might as well.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Happy birthday to Maggie Beer, who turned eighty on the weekend. She jumped on the Weekend Breakfast Show and had a chat with Angie McBride. Here's Maggie Beer.

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Speaker 11: I've been very spoiled. I've got beautiful vegetables. I've got to Oh, look, I just food is really important, that food and music and friends and family. But no, I'm feeling so great and I'm just and it was yesterday was also our fifty fifth wedding anniversary, so that's why we had a party and oh it was the most perfect night.

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Speaker 2: And so how are you feeling after your fall?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's taken five months and I'm nearly there.

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Speaker 2: And I'm there.

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Speaker 11: I did it. Well that's why.

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Speaker 12: Wow.

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Speaker 13: But I.

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Speaker 11: Just well, I'm so lucky because I had such amazing kit as there are, I've been there for a long time, and an amazing king at home with my column and so now just in about two weeks, I've just I feel myself again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Maggie be the Cha with Michael keel and and Angie McBride could have hear that she's on the men.

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Speaker 2: But she also did a really good interview with the Advertiser on Saturday. I only read online, but it was a very long one. I think it must have been in the weekend magazine section. But the account of the fall that she had she basically went from the top of one very long flight of stairs to the bottom and broke a neck and of all these vertebrae and just the impact that it had on her. But the other thing I found amazing because he said, to get to a certain age and you start going one amm a, sooper is going, you know, am I set up for putting a feed up, taking the foot off the pedal a bit. She's eighty years old, and she said, this is actually like a bit of a wake up call that maybe I need to just slow down a bit. And the fact that she's only had that thought at the entering her ninth decade on Earth shows how incredibly focused.

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Speaker 1: And driven she generally loves what she does. Yeah, it's not an act, it's not for money, it's just what she loves doing. All right, Let's head to Tel Aviv in Israel. So we find Jessica at Millward for nine years, who's covering the release of the first hostages from Gaza under a long and wide await. It cease for our agreement that Jesus looked rocky in the last various points in the last twenty four hours, but it seems to be on track now. Jubilant scenes in the Israeli capital. Jessica, good morning too. You just described the last twelve hours have been.

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Speaker 14: Like there, Oh well, an emotional roller coaster if we start with the scenes that we've just seen the past hour or so at a hospital near Tel Aviv, incredibly emotional scenes as those three female hostages were reunited with their families after fifteen months in captivity. They look to be in remarkably good health, aside from one of them, Emily, who had a bandaged on her hand, and we've later learned that she lost two fingers in the October seven attacks, but she is now back in the arms of her family. All three mothers were waiting anxiously on the Israel side of the border as a fairly chaotic and terrifying hostage handover took place in the middle of Gaza, her mass fighters bundling the girls out of a car and into a Red Cross vehicle. There were hundreds in the crowd, yelling and screaming as they did so, and then they were taken to that IDF base on the Israel side of the border, where they saw their mothers, and we've seen incredibly emotional pictures of that. They're likely to stay in hospital for days, it's not weeks, because physically they look well, but obviously they need to undergo a lot of medical examinations and see what their mental state is like after fifteen months in captivity. There's also been reunions guys at the West Bank this evening because some ninety Palestinian prisoners were released from jail as part of the deal too, and as the ceasefire finally came in at fifteen local time, displaced Palestinian some one point nine billions of them, has started turning to what is left of their homes. So, as Joe Biden said earlier, the guns have fallen silent. But as anyone here will tell you, this is just the first step in a very long road. These are the first three of thirty three hostages due to be released in Phase one. We're going to see four more released next weekend. But as we saw this morning, with the delays of the ceasefire, it nearly didn't go ahead. Things are so fragile, and you do get the sense things could break down at any moment. For the families of these three girls, Deron, Emily and Rommy, this is a very very happy day.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Jessica, you mentioned the other thirty So is there a timeline for how long it will take or is the eking out of this process sort of part of a way where I guess both sides, Israeli and Palestine, can keep an eye on each other make sure that everyone's honoring the expectations.

00:27:04
Speaker 15: There's a fairly set timeline for all of this that was worked out by Katari mediators. So Phase one will last for forty two days, and the thirty three hostages need to come out over those thirty three days, and for every one hostage, some thirty Palestinian prisoners will be released. So things have been set out to a very specific timeline. On the day sixteen of the ceasefire, today being day one, that is when negotiations start about Phase two.

00:27:34
Speaker 14: So we know that the first thirty three hostages to be released, Israeli hostages will be women and children and also the elderly, and then those discussions will start, you know, agony for the other families spoken to the other of a soldier, given he is a young male and he is a soldier, he's going to be one of the last. So she'd be watching these scenes tonight and of course happy for these families of the whole that are back with their loved ones, but knowing any sort of reunion if in fact Turstin is still alive is many weeks away for her.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just such an intense story, amazing being there on the ground in Televiv for Channel nine. Jessica Jessica Millward for nine, thank you for joining us this morning from Israel.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes to seven. I'm going to head to the weather Bureau in just a moment. A little bit of a tidbit though, from our resident stats man, Ben Jordan, who says, welcome back, gents on the Police Home Care text line. The first half of summer has averaged thirty degrees. It's two degrees above average, but it isn't due to any real heat wave. It's due to the fact we've had double the number of days between thirty and thirty five degrees today with the seventeenth day in that range, it's the most since nineteen sixty six. That just about makes it the perfect summer.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: I was going to say, we were sitting around last night at home, so the garden actually looks in reasonably good given we are, you know, mid January here. But yeah, we've had We've had so many perfect beach days like twenty eight, thirty one, twenty nine, thirty three, just brilliant brilliant. Haven't had the big northerly winds either. It's been a very mild and pleasant summer.

00:29:05
Speaker 5: More from the Bureau in just a moment, David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line fine double a breakfast.

00:29:12
Speaker 1: Minutes to seeven let's talk about the weather. Ben Jordan just outlined by way of statistics, how it might well be the perfect summer we've just had. Will it continue this week? Mark Anilac on deck at the Bureau of Meteorology. Morning to you, Mark, Good morning guys.

00:29:25
Speaker 7: How are you going?

00:29:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, good Mark Happing, New year, mate, Thank.

00:29:28
Speaker 7: You having you to you. And it looks like we're in for a nice day again today heading for a top of thirty four degrees in the city, thirty six degrees for the northern suburbs. A little bit close to the coast. The sea breeze might just keep put a cap on temperatures around the low thirty so Glenelg heading for thirty one, nor longer thirty two. Mount Barker heading for a top of thirty three. But as I said, partly cloudy day. Heading for thirty four in the city. Another sunny day tomorrow thirty degrees. We finally see some slightly cooler temperatures through the middle part of the week. Wins strengthen a little bit but should remain fine. Twenty eight degrees on Wednesday, twenty sixth on Thursday and rounding out the week twenty seven degrees are mostly Sunday.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: On Friday beautiful. Some good weather looming for the Australia Long weekend. It's going to be terrific.

00:30:15
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thank you Mark. Let's say to save Pauls when he comes to a Matt Brown. He is on the line. Matt, good morning to You're great to chat again. Ll be fairly dramatic situation you've got for us that's played out off of Maslin Beach last night.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.

00:30:27
Speaker 12: Well and Dave, good morning and happy New Year to.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: You both as well, are you too, Matte.

00:30:31
Speaker 12: Emergency services attended at the scene of a crash at Mason Beach last night about eleven pm. Police and emergency services were called to Golf Parade after reports today white hole in sedan had driven off the cliff and landed on the beach. Now the driver of thirty year old woman from Northgate and her passenger, a thirty year old man from Tonndo. Both suffered non life threatening injuries, but they would both take in a hospital for treatment and measures are being taken to remove the car from the beach. Investigations into the crash are on going as well, and we are appealing for any witnesses, anyone who might have seen the car go over the cliff to contact crime Stoppers on one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: It's really hard to wrap your head around that one, Matt. Is there anything about alcohol or drugs or lost control or medical episode or I suppose it's too early to speculate.

00:31:16
Speaker 12: Yeah, virtually all of the above will be investigated, Dave. But major crash aren't involved, which is always a good sign. So yeah, we're just appealing for witnesses to come forward, or someone might have caught it on dash cam or CCTV or something like that.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Matt, some neer do well has stolen an electric bike, but they've foolishly listed it for sale on Facebook marketplace. Hopefully you guys can track them down if you haven't already.

00:31:44
Speaker 12: That's right, I mean, these ones are never nice, Dave. And you'd like to think that, you know, when you go to either buy or sell something online that or be smooth sailing, but unfortunately not. On Saturday night, about eight ten pm, a man arrived at the victim's house in Befoil Park who inspect an electric bike for sale. Suspect handed over an envelope that he claimed contained cash before threatening the victim with a knife and then riding away on the bike and thankfully the victim, a fifteen year old boy, wasn't injured, but the suspect was last seen riding north on Heatherwood Drive and yesterday the e bike was found crashed with extensive damage a short distance away and crime scene investigators attended and examined the scene. So investigations are ongoing. Suspects described as being aged between eighteen and twenty years old, about one hundred and eighty one hundred and ninety centimeters tall, light brown complexion, short spiked hair and a small ghosty style beard. He was wearing baggy white cargo pants and a light blue T shirt. So please urging anyone else who may be aware of similar offending to contact crime stoppers on one out hundred, triple three, triple zero. But just a few sort of tips and advice for people that are going to sell goods online, always meet in a public place that you're familiar with, like a large shopping center or somewhere with CCTV cameras. Get details from the potential buyers their name and phone number, US for their ID as they require a test drive or a test ride or anything like that. There's plenty of information now on our website that you can get to keep yourself safe when you're selling things online.

00:33:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely good on your matte. Send your constable Matt Brown there from Sapolk. Banny White cargo pants sounds on vanilla ice.

00:33:20
Speaker 1: The weather might be fined here in Adelaide, but it's pretty horrific over in the United States. And it's meant for the first time in a long time that there is going to be an indoor inauguration. That is, Donald Trump's inauguration will take place our time tomorrow, but it'll be Monday the twentieth in the United States. Tim Leicester is in Washington, DC and rugged up covering it all. Good morning you, Tim, God, how are you well?

00:33:43
Speaker 2: We're pretty warm, Tim. It's going to be thirty four here today, so we're gotting those prods. What's I read I read it. It's getting as low as minus thirty one over there at the moment.

00:33:55
Speaker 16: That might be a fahrenheit reading. I know the top temperature forecasts for some was minus four degrees celsius. That's the top temperature top, yeah, the top. And it's just turned from sleep to snow. So the cold is coming in right now, just as Donald Trump is rallying his supporters at a kind of victory rally in the center of Washington, d C. And they've had to stand out in ten to twelve hours of rain turning to sleep, turning to snow. So they're enthusiastic. It's nothing else.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: They certainly are. Are there likely to be protests tim because you know, it doesn't matter which president Republican or Democrats being being inaugurated, there's normally some sort of crowd slash render crowd turning up. The weather might dampen that a bit, though surely.

00:34:49
Speaker 16: Well absolutely there was one yesterday with several tens of thousands of people attended. It would look like quite a big crowd. But when you think that the first time Donald Trump was inaugurated, half a million protested. Some of the biggest protests the US had seen since the nineteen sixties. It wasn't considered that bigger crowd and barely made a ripple with news media. So yes, protest, but really the mood here is much more, frankly of even from Trump opponents of resignation. And so I think they're accepting, They're accepting what's going on and basically trying to work out how they accommodate Donald Trump and the quite profound change that many expect and.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: Tim Given that the incoming president president reelect has been either shot or shot at twice in the last six months, what's the security like tomorrow, Well, it.

00:36:03
Speaker 16: Was to be quite intense, and in fact, one of the rumors kicking around and confirming this had been nigh on impossible. But one of the rumors is that the weather has simply been used as a convenient excuse to get him off stage and go inside to a far more security friendly environment, that is the rote hunder in the National Capitol Building, so he won't be standing in front of a crowd of hundreds of thousands of people. Whether that's right, who knows, but I can't security have to change arrangements because of it. But you'd think they generally probably be very relieved that that's the case.

00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah'll plenty of chat about Donald Trump in the inauguration over the course of the next twenty four hours. Thank you for that, Tim, Thanks Tim Lester in Washington, d C. Might be a little bit more simple than that when it comes to the well being of the president. Back in eighteen forty one, Henry Harrison was the first US president to dine in office. The reason he died he spoke for two hours, the longest inauguration speech ever at his inauguration day on a wet, cold day. He came in on horseback, didn't wear a coat, scarf or hat because he wanted to portray himself as this this war hero and this tough guy. Got pneumonia and died within a month, seriously because a constitutional crisis in the US, because they didn't have a no one had type before, and he died so quickly. The whole thing was in disarray. But they don't I saw on sky this morning, what are the people in the streets that we don't want to kill another president? And what he meant was not shoot one, have one die from being out in the cold.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: So aren't there like four presidents who have died in office from natural.

00:37:39
Speaker 1: Causes probably or that are from natural causes.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: Well, there's how don't you been assassinated successfully two? Two or three? Lincoln Lincoln Kennedy. Yep, there another one. No, I don't think, so we'll check during the seven o'clock news break.

00:37:58
Speaker 1: So that is all going to be taking place tomorrow. We're gonna be heading there, so we'll have the all the latest from the Trump inauguration for you on tomorrow morning's program, which it will be incidentally all covered on TikTok because TikTok It's back up and running in the United States again after Trump has given them a bit of a stay of execution. We'll be talking more about that, I think over the course of the next couple of days as well. Five Double A News is coming up the premiere of South the Strata will join us next, but before we even do that, we're gonna head to Maslin's Beach to try and get at the bottom of what happened with this car that went off the cliff.

00:38:29
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five Double A Breakfast e sceven after seven.

00:38:35
Speaker 1: Good morning too. If you're joining us for the first time on this Monday morning, the twentieth of January. It's good to be back. The Premier will be joining us live in the studio in just a moment, so if you'd like to watch along, you can jump along on the Foodland super Markets Facebook and YouTube live stream. A curious story with Sapol though. About fifteen minutes ago, we got word of a car crash of a different sort at Maslin Beach where car has gone off a cliff. Hayden Nelson for seven News is at the scene covering. He sent us some photographs that you can actually see on the live stream right now of a car that hasn't just come to grief it is it looks like a crushed soft drink can. Haid Nelson, Good morning to you mate. What have you been out of piece together?

00:39:12
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a great script in will description, Will and Dave welcome back, guys. This is a that's going to be absolute taiale once we figure out what's gone on here, because this Comodore is sitting stationary on the sand. As he said, it looks like a crushed soft drink can. It's spoiler is fifty meters up on the cliff. It appears to have just jumped from overnight, so this happened about eleven o'clock last night. This commodore has more or less catapulted itself from Oleander Road, which is the road which runs on to the cliff on the northern end of Maslon Beach, off the cliff and onto the stand below. It's a huge plunge. What's most incredible out of all this is that the driver, who's a thirty year old woman from Northgate's herds and Police, and the passenger, a thirty year old man from Tananda, have managed to make it out uninjured. They've survived this, which is just incredible. The helicopter has flown one of them to hospital. We've had a gentleman here from a crane company has just rocked up this morning. He's taken a measurement. He reckons at least a fifty meter drop and he says that at some stage this morning they need to bring in an excavator or potentially a crane because the car is just a shell of itself to get this thing off the beach. A resident we've also spoken to here this morning. I know when you were speaking to Save Pole earlier just trying to get an understanding of what is behind all this. Well, I'm not saying this is the case. This resident we've spoken to he said he heard horning about a minute a minute and a half before, and several burnouts and then this and just seeing this commodore at the bottom of this cliff. The only thing you can really guess is that they have come at this with some speed and basically gotten air, some serious air as they've come off the hill here.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Wow, is it the nude or the non nude end of the beach?

00:41:01
Speaker 18: I need it?

00:41:02
Speaker 17: Asked that Dave, it was the non non neud end.

00:41:05
Speaker 2: Claud I check which residents the cloud end?

00:41:08
Speaker 17: I asked myself just to make sure before we yah.

00:41:11
Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't want to you didn't want to be dressed inappropriately.

00:41:14
Speaker 17: Absolutely, absolutely the best.

00:41:17
Speaker 1: In the business at Nelson for us seven years and sunrise, so fifty meters is about fifteen stories. If you're trying to picture a building in Adelaide that that cars come off the top.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: Of some of those books down there, they're seriously hi, there's a long way to four without doing themselves any injury. And whatever the background story was to how they happen to be in that set of circumstances. Good to hear that they are okay. Well. The Premiere of South Australia, Peter Balaouskis, is with us this morning in the studio Premier. Good morning, great to see you for the first interview we do together for twenty twenty five and happy new Year to you. Happy to year too too.

00:41:51
Speaker 1: Welcome back, gens.

00:41:52
Speaker 2: Now are you a New Year's resolution maker? Have you made one? Is there one thing you'd like to change in twenty two five.

00:42:02
Speaker 4: I've got things I want to try and do work wise this year, but on a personal level, I sort of do a little bit. But I'm not not a sort of enthusiast for news resolutions. But I've got a couple I want to do. I want to get the kids running and doing a park run.

00:42:17
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's quite a big thing. There was one yesterday morning and that.

00:42:22
Speaker 4: It's hate and I've noticed I haven't done many of them myself. I sort of tend to do it run on my own or whatever. But when I do it, I noticed a lot of families like.

00:42:30
Speaker 2: I did one just before Christmas and it.

00:42:32
Speaker 4: Was brilliant five but everyone's going at their own pace. It's pretty relaxed. There's people who are absolute demons running you know, sub three minute between three and four minute sort of k's. But then there are other people just sort of walking with your kids and so forth. I just you know, so it's nine now and Jack seven's I reckon, now's a good time to start. That's that's my news resolution. Lets sweet if it happens or not. They might not be, they might not share, they might share. My ambisis for them.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: The other ideas what to do on a Saturday morning? Hey, can I can I give you one we mentioned before and this is probably the one topic you don't want to talk about, but we've got to talk about it because you were the one talked about it more than anyone at the last election. Two years ago. We had on the show about ramping and you said, all right, the question we gave you was when are we going to see some improvement? And you said second half of next year.

00:43:24
Speaker 4: As in twenty twenty four.

00:43:26
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, we didn't. We saw one month of no.

00:43:30
Speaker 4: We saw and we saw a few I mean December was better than December prior. And then that was true. Going back to you know, same for November, October, September and particularly October November, we saw a heap of improvement. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying that a both the lol Mac and Flinders we've now got ramping below what it was before the election. We're still at a heap of heap of improvement to do though, particularly that the Rah and also still at Flinders. But the Lowell Mack is the one that we're sort of really happy with because throughout the course of twenty twenty two and then twenty twenty three, we saw ramping dramatically improved there. As soon as we brought those new beds online, which was in August last year, ramping dramatically improved, dramatically improved, and then ambulance response times largely proved in the northern suburbs around it. So the challenge now as we see as we see more beds come online, I think we've got you know, I think another one hundred and eighty throughout the course of this year and more beds coming online next.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: Is it improves in line though with what the promise was that better than underall, well.

00:44:38
Speaker 4: It certainly improved in terms of the stated objective, which we will clear about in the lead up to the election, and that was to improve ambulance response times. Bearing a mind that three years ago you called triple zero over sixty percent of the time the ambulance rolled up late for a lights and sirens emergency. Now the opposite is true. We've got i mean P two last week was up set over seventy percent. Again, so if you're a lights and signs emergency, seventy percent of the time the amblance is on time now, whereas when we came to government that was at thirty three percent on time performance. Now that's a pretty big improvement. Now, I'm not I'm naturally highlighting where we've seen improvement. I'm not diminishing for a second, particularly at the RAH. We've still got a long way to go in terms of getting ramping down, but increasing capacity has made a difference, and we've sing a lot more come online will be fixed this year. Then well, I mean I've got asked pretty explicitly and specifically, you know, in forums like this one in the lead up to the election, what does fixing it me? And my response was reducing ramping to the extent we can get ambulances rolling up on time again, and if we can see that that on time performance improved, then you know, hopefully that makes a.

00:45:52
Speaker 1: Big difference by that definition of you're saying it's fixed.

00:45:54
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not no, because.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: You just told us that the well, that's.

00:45:58
Speaker 4: What I'm saying you I've got asked that question before the election. I answered it as honestly as I could. But I am not saying it's fixed. I think there's a long way to go, but I think there are signs of improvement as a result of investments that have been made.

00:46:09
Speaker 2: I say, you're right. I did say to you.

00:46:11
Speaker 1: I remember that.

00:46:12
Speaker 4: I think an interview was in twenty twenty two, or maybe even twenty three.

00:46:15
Speaker 2: I was twenty twenty three. Was the first interview we did in.

00:46:18
Speaker 4: Twenty three, and I said, by the end of twenty twenty the.

00:46:21
Speaker 1: Quotes out, yeah, good, you should.

00:46:22
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you raised it because if you look at the numbers, it did improve in the second half and by the end of twenty twenty four. That's not to say that there isn't a lot more improvement required.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: We've received some text this morning with some concern slash confusion from listeners with regard to this legal clarification around the handover of patients.

00:46:38
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad you're asking about this.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: Because and here's here's the thrust of the feedback. We're getting good people smell a rat. They think this is an accounting exercise to artificially reduce ramping feeture.

00:46:49
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'll tell what I'll do. I will my meta advisor will be listening it is. I'll get them to tweet during the course of this interview, and anyone can look at my path age the policy of what it is today and what the policy is proposed to be changed to, and you'll see there is basically no difference except for a clarification of legal responsibility and when it assumes and why is that change being made. What's been made as a result of a review that we had last year around when is it the ambo's responsibility versus the ed's responsibility, Because you'll remember there was that issue that was highlighted by Ashton Hearn in the opposition. The review subsequently happened. We had Bill Griggs and doctor Keith McNeill do it do a review. They made recommendations. So the very review that Ashton Hearn, the Liberal health spokesperson. The very review that Ashton Hearn called for made a recommendation. Now we're implementing the recommendation, and what does Ashton Hern come out and do. She comes up and makes things up to suggest that somehow this is a you know, the government trying to change the way that ramping data operates. It is completely untrue. It's a total falsehood. It's been called out by doctors, is being called out by ambos, and this sort of scare mongering tactics and overreach that we're seeing from Ashton Hearn seems to be a bit of a a bit of a trend on her part, and I think she would do herself a far better service and do the Liberal Party a far better service rather than making up lies and saying untrue and trying to scare people with falsehoods. Maybe they just might want to come up with a policy of their own that would that would actually be something productive. But I will put I'll put up on Twitter and you guys can look at yourself, the the the policy post implementation of the recommendation and the policy prayer, and you'll see that there is no change to the way that people are being cared for. In fact, the opposite is true. What we're trying to do is ensure that there is clarity in everybody's minds so that people get better care.

00:48:49
Speaker 2: We want to ask Estion for her view about that. At some point you should you absolutely should please to be claim to make about a line.

00:48:56
Speaker 4: Well, the claim that the somehow this is that the intent of the oven here is to or the policy makers, the experts who are working really hard within the system, the intent that this is somehow the idea that there is any intent to change the way ramping operates, it's just not true, Dave, And that sort of debate doesn't get us anywhere. I mean, I'm all open to good ideas, but fim angering don't. I don't think it's particularly helpful.

00:49:23
Speaker 1: You got a new policy out today that you're going to flesh out a little bit later today. With regard to making bigger garages a feature of Adelaide homes, new built Adelaide homes would need to have capacity for two cars. If there's two occupants, you're trying to get people off the street. Basically, I think people understand the thrust of it. The ties has good a good job covering that this morning. Is there any risk with regard to particularly sensitive things at the moment like this having an inflationary impact on the price of housing.

00:49:48
Speaker 4: Well, certainly, yeah, that will certainly see those claims that you know, if you require properties to have a bigger garage, that will come at some expense. So what here's the guts of So the city in the state is growing, right because the relative performance economically of South Australia versus the rest of the country is strong. We are seeing population data, We're seeing our population grow. People are leaving less and more people are coming here and you know, I hope that sustains itself, particularly as we see more economic opportunities coming on line over the course of the next five to ten years. So we need more homes and a lot more of them now as the government, we're moving heaven and earth to achieve that, including with urban growth. I don't agree with this idea that we should just be trying to contain everyone in the city. I'm actually okay with thoughtful urban growth. But density is part of the equation and where the resistance comes from is when it's done poorly, and there has been there have been suburbs and parts of you know, communities in LA that have really been torn upside down by whether there's one home, there's now three or four. I've got it next door to me in Brompton. Everywhere, and you put four homes where there was once one. Where there was previously two cars, there's now eight, and there's not eight car parks, and so everyone's flooding the streets. You can't drive up and down streets. People come to visit, they have to park klometers away. It's rubbish, right, And you know, frankly, there's been a policy failure, whether it's state government or local government. People, various people can assign blame. All I know is is a problem and we've got to somehow fix it. So we're moving legislation that's going to achieve this.

00:51:28
Speaker 2: You're building a.

00:51:28
Speaker 4: New home, it's got two bedrooms, you'renna have two off street car parks. And more than that, even if you're building a one bedroom place in a more smaller density, if you've got one car park, let's make it big enough that even forbid, you might be able to park your bloody car in there. Right, Because some of these and I've seen it around the corner from me in Bowden. I'm seeing some places being built and the garages are so narrow that you cannot put a Highlucks in there or whatever. So we're going to widen the gar just now. Look, the development sector is going to wail about this. They are going to be unhappy about it, right, and because it's a restriction on them. But what I would submit to them is where for more homes and improving density. But it's got to be done in a way that brings them, that doesn't isolate the community from one another, and actually sustainable.

00:52:18
Speaker 2: Premier is quickly. It's been a reasonably quiet start to the year, which is was a good thing. No news is often good news in the political space. But the one story that has been running is.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: Why Alla, Yeah, I'm worried about this?

00:52:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the status of that? I did a piece late last did you reckon? They're just using this as a cash cow to prop up their overseas debts. It looks a little bit like it, doesn't it.

00:52:37
Speaker 4: Look parts of the Integrated Still Works operation makes money, particularly the Mind and the Mind's Service GfG really well. But the Mind needs investment now along with it.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: Look there's a group of.

00:52:50
Speaker 4: Men and women in the Still Works that, over the course of the last six weeks have done some extraordinary things to get that blasphemoess back up on rhyme. It's an old piece of and it's now up and running again. And I've learned more about Blastpheress than I've thought i'd know. But they've got the tweez open. I think they're up to fifteen or sixteen twees. I won't go into that open. So that Blastphesus is functioning. This is, you know, ninety percent science, ten percent art, and these people in there are brilliant and gfg's led that exercise and they deserve a bit of credit for it, but they made a sweeter decisions that got us in the mess in the first place. We're worried about the financial position of GfG. It is precarious, and I guess my principal concern is people on the ground getting paid, particularly small businesses that are servicing the still Works. That's improved a bit, particularly now still operations have come back online. But the bigger concern I've got is that Still Works needs a lot of capital invest in it to transform it and that's what we're so committed to as a government. I know the FEDS are too, and I think there's a bit of water that's got to go under the bridge throughout the first half of this year to make that this issue resolves itself, to set not just Wyala, but still making up in this country up for a better future. And I've spent a lot of time over this at last month and and I don't know if that's about to change anytime soon.

00:54:13
Speaker 2: Hopefully it does for the sake of the people. Whala Premier. Good to have you back. We'll talk again. Thanks. Thanks.

00:54:18
Speaker 1: Twenty three out to seven. We're gonna check traffic and then next first chat with Stephen Roe for twenty twenty four.

00:54:24
Speaker 5: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, Double a breakfast twenty seven minutes after six.

00:54:31
Speaker 1: New Year means new hope, certainly in the world of sport. Stephen right on five, Double a breakfast. I've been looking forward to this growing Timmy g back on tonight, Stephen Rowe, Good morning do.

00:54:46
Speaker 8: You, oh pember and Will welcome back. Great to hear your voices. Happy new year here is for a healthy and happy one for all of us, and yeah, it is hope. It is hope for both clubs really, and it's time to deliver for both clubs. We know that for different reasons. But you know, if the Crows can make top eight, I think they've got the list to do. So, now maybe win a final, be competitive and win both showdowns and port will they just keep being port? I reckon I'd take that in twenty.

00:55:13
Speaker 1: Five could have been the last year for both coaches.

00:55:17
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, Oh geez, you know I see books being run. Who's out first?

00:55:23
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean really, it's not trying to beat it up on paper that you'd have to say both.

00:55:28
Speaker 1: Of we had showed a coaching higher Showdown before where they're both bidding for the same pool of available coaches. I can't recall that happening before. Yeah, look, I would mean they've both had shocking years. So let's hope that's nine days.

00:55:42
Speaker 8: Let's hope it's grape the state when they're both foes. So let's back it him. Hey, just quickly, that five Test series versus in here was absolutely next level Test cricket at its best. Just a pity old Mudguts got injured in the end. Man of the series. What thirty two wickets at thirteen. The only reason I call him Mudguts He looks a bit chubby in the area and I can't pronounce his surname.

00:56:01
Speaker 2: But anyway, well done.

00:56:03
Speaker 8: Hey, I've actually had a yeah, yeah, that's him.

00:56:05
Speaker 1: He was a deserved.

00:56:09
Speaker 8: Unbelievable It was the battle between bat and ball with him was just riveting Test cricket. I absolutely loved it.

00:56:18
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? People need to reassess Pat Cummins. I think Pat Commings captain brand apart.

00:56:23
Speaker 1: From the first Test.

00:56:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, I need to put my hand up. I don't care how wok he is or politically correct now left field, tree hugging, he can be all of that.

00:56:31
Speaker 1: He well, they're not my favorite.

00:56:34
Speaker 2: He could shade himself to the Santos Johnny. If we're going to keep winning Test series.

00:56:38
Speaker 8: One hundred percent, I'll even bring the glue he was. He was sensational. Hey, look, I've actually had a good summer today. Coley fault because I don't like him. We won the serious How's curios going out the first round? He's back on only fans or god or loved tennis when he's out reds, how's the reds? Three two victory.

00:57:00
Speaker 2: And I know the.

00:57:01
Speaker 8: Thirty six ers are up and down, in and out and all of that, but god, they're still entertaining. And here's the big news. Now here is the big Yes, Ned mckenry. Back on Tuesday, we asked Timmy It for the tuna? Are in, oh tuna in?

00:57:17
Speaker 1: Looking forward to hearing the big tuner of radio this afternoon. Are you Timmy g in the whole game?

00:57:21
Speaker 2: Good?

00:57:22
Speaker 1: Have your back, Matt see it four on your five double A news time. Stacey Lee came back early. She's been broadcasting since last week. She's going to be joining us in the studio next as we turn our attention to state politics.

00:57:32
Speaker 5: Stick around David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine, five double A Breakfast, twenty.

00:57:38
Speaker 1: Minutes, still late after eight o'clock, looking forward at this chat. Did you see the young fellow that flipped the coin with Carlos al Karaz, the you know, the oddest name in tennis at the moment, who had that nice moment with him when he won the toss and he did a little jig and danced around, and then Carlos Agres took him to the press conference afterwards, made his day. We'd be chatting with him after eight o'clock today. I'm really looking forward to that. Also, the latest on this ongoing tomato virus saga. A really sad story with one of our growers having to shut up shop. They fired, they've remaining ten employees.

00:58:07
Speaker 2: We did that as breaking at eight on September the twelfth or something. Last year. We had Oriana Petsios on the show and in that interview she said, look, if this happens, it's probably going to destroy our business. Well guess what it has.

00:58:22
Speaker 1: It has and they're not taking it lying down. It sounds like they're going to fight this. Good on them because they say that this the classification of the disease and the accuracy with which the testing happens all needs to be put under the spotlight because it's costing people jobs and livelihoods. Their home is under threat. So Peter Petzios is going to join us after eight thirty today. Stacy Lee's been doing yeomen's work for five double as she came back a week early last week doing tremendous things and go to see someone here has a work ethics right back on deck, Stace, good morning to.

00:58:48
Speaker 19: You, Good morning, guys. Good to have you back.

00:58:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were finally sauntered back into the studio. Great to have you here. A happy new Year to you, yeah, and to you.

00:58:56
Speaker 19: I hope you've both had a nice break. It was a nice, nice summer.

00:59:00
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the one I was down there nar Maslins? Luckily they're no cars on the beach, you don't they were.

00:59:10
Speaker 19: We're talking about Maslin's last week. I can't remember what for save money on clothing, cost.

00:59:16
Speaker 1: Of living exactly?

00:59:20
Speaker 2: Did you hear at chat with the premier?

00:59:21
Speaker 19: Stays Yeah, And I was sitting in my car driving to work, banging the steering wheel, just thinking it's I'm sorry, excuse the language, but this is absolute bs. When the premier said the governments or the Labor Party's election commitment was we will fix ramp the ramping crisis so much so that we get ambulance response times down. That was not the promise.

00:59:45
Speaker 10: The response.

00:59:45
Speaker 19: The promise was to fix ramping, not fix ambulance response times. If Labour's election commitment was to get ambulances rocking up on time, the posters would have said fix response times, fix ambulance response times, not fix ramping.

01:00:01
Speaker 2: We'll fix the ramping crisis suggests that you will not be waiting in a car park, which by the premier zoone ad mission, still happens way too much at the Rah and Flender's, our two biggest hospitals. Means you get out of the ambulance and into a bed exactly.

01:00:16
Speaker 19: And when he was asked to clarify the election commitment before the election and then after the election by yourselves, by myself at A I remember hosting the pre election leader's debate for the Essay Press Club. And by the way, we'll be hosting another debate in a couple of months, in March, one year out from the next election, so I can ask him again in that fororum. But you and I will continue to be asking this question of the Premier and the government. And I asked him to clarify what they mean by fix the ramping crisis. He said, we will get ramping back down to twenty eighteen levels within the first term of government. Now, whatever twenty eighteen levels means, I have done so much maths trying to work this out. Does that mean from January to December of twenty eighteen or are they talking the first full year of the new government being in power in the first full year of masters.

01:01:07
Speaker 2: Much to the easiest.

01:01:08
Speaker 1: Ye, that's the answer, whatever, the.

01:01:10
Speaker 19: Highest, the most achievable number one. But the answer was not, or the only part of the answer to the question, what do you mean fix ambulance response times? The only part of the answer was not get ambulances rocking up on time. Now, towards the back end of the election campaign they started saying that because they realized, oh shit, we're not.

01:01:30
Speaker 18: Going to be able to do this, so we won't be able to get back down.

01:01:34
Speaker 19: So they started to change the narrative from fixing ambulance, from fixing ramping to fixing ambulance response times. And look, I think out there people want to get seen when they're sick. They want someone to help them when they need help. So great getting ambulances rocking up on time. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, and sure have a focus on that, but that was not the election commitment.

01:01:57
Speaker 1: Boy I asked the Premier the question because he went on to tell us that ambulance repont times have been fixed and subsequently said the ramping crisis was about ambulance response times. So by that definition, the ramping crisis has been fixed.

01:02:10
Speaker 19: No, exactly, the ramping situation has been fixed when ambulances aren't sitting on ramps. And this is why last week when the Essay Health issued this legal clarification of who has legal responsibility over patients but who still has direct care over patients when they're sitting in an ambulance on a ramp, my phone lines liter we did an hour on ramping from one till two o'clock on Friday afternoon. We had Essay Health, we had SASMOA, the Salaried Medical Officers Association, we had the Opposition, and we had the Ambulance Union. Because people are thinking your promise was to fix ramping and you're worrying about changing two words in an essay health policy because some boften was paid probably a ridiculous amount of money to do a review and suggested this as a recommendation. Is this really what the government should be focusing on when it comes to health changing the wording of weird policies that no one out there in the South Australian community gives a crap about.

01:03:12
Speaker 1: Sorry, Marge is called in to be part of this conversation. Good morning to hear Marge, you're there, Marge, it seem to have march. It doesn't Sea be working. I trust it was an excellent point. Her name was on the board. Yeah, she was there. Maybe she's flabbergasta. It's just a I can't find words.

01:03:31
Speaker 2: So she's been ramped.

01:03:33
Speaker 19: I just it and it frustrates me to no end. And then the Premier sitting here saying the opposition is making up lies and name calling out Ashton Hearn, which you know she's the shadow health minister. It's her job to do that. When Chris Pichton was the shadow Health Minister, he was doing the same, but saying she's making up lies, saying untruths. It's a total falsehood. It's scaremongering and overreach. Well, Premiere, trying to change your election commitment after the fact is overreach.

01:03:58
Speaker 1: I did think in the midst of that conversation, when nashonal Hern's name was repeated, has I can't has Peter mountain OUs has ever said the words vincentt Tarzi.

01:04:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I was thinking that too. I was thinking the same thing. I don't think he's ever said that, or did he ever say the words David Spears. I don't think enough.

01:04:13
Speaker 1: I don't think she'd take that as a win. Said to be the eye of Siren's looked upon her. You know, they've had to actually acknowledge that she exists.

01:04:21
Speaker 2: Well, it sort of suggests that she's got under their skin a bit by pursuing this issue, and they need people like that who are capable of doing it because they haven't really had anything yep.

01:04:30
Speaker 19: And I will say from the conversations, it's true, as we've discussed, there's not a whole lot of talent it. But from the conversations I was having on Friday about this, it wasn't just the opposition that was annoyed about this policy. They can go back and listen to the hour of radio we did where callers were calling in frustrated by this change in policy. Sas Mooa was on, who represents the Medical Association, that doctors, the nurse's clinicians are all so concerned about this because while it might sound like this won't have an impact on ramping and it's just about the legal responsibility, what why'd make the change then? If this isn't going to change the way patients are treated, if this isn't going to change the way you get serviced when you get to a hospital, whether you're sitting in an ambulance or sitting in the ed. Okay, some clinician recommended it in a review. Why is that the focus of say health right now when they have TikTok fifteen months to reach this election commitment of fixing ramping and not fixing ambulance response time.

01:05:34
Speaker 1: All the wording's been tweeter, we've been were You can, I think, search for David and Will on Twitter and you can compare it for yourself. As the premier committed about forty five minutes ago. Who's in the keen office furniture hot seat sometimes makes it self obvious, isn't it hot seat?

01:05:48
Speaker 2: This you?

01:05:48
Speaker 19: Well, it has to be the premiere after that? Okay, I'm sorry, but saying someone else is making up lives and making things up and trying to change the election commitment after the fact, I.

01:05:58
Speaker 2: Give you plenty to talk about when you catch up with him in March for the mister Bates.

01:06:02
Speaker 19: Yeah, so we'll have a one year out debate.

01:06:05
Speaker 2: Not are you to make friends.

01:06:07
Speaker 19: I've got a job to do, just like.

01:06:09
Speaker 5: You guys have a job to do.

01:06:10
Speaker 19: You ask the questions and we sit there in our car screaming at the radio when the answers are given, looking.

01:06:17
Speaker 1: Forward to the show tonight.

01:06:18
Speaker 10: Thank you?

01:06:20
Speaker 19: Can I just say sorry? You start time start at one pm?

01:06:22
Speaker 1: That's right, one till four more Stacy.

01:06:25
Speaker 19: Yeah, just what everyone asked for.

01:06:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is what people ask for. Stacey still more. Stacey starts today one o'clock. Brand new starts. I'm very excited about that. We'll let you get to your extra preparation. Yes, as it is now, let's check traffic. We'll be back with more in just a moment, including some of your excellent texts on the Police Home Care text line.

01:06:47
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five, double a Breakfast, seven after right.

01:06:53
Speaker 1: Good news, Breaking night coming up after eight o'clock. We had a bit of a wind over the Christmas break for in a story in Sarga that we've been following very closely so and for a great length of time. Yeah, heartbreaking story. We're gonna be talking about that with a rare happy ending. Yeah, exactly right. We got a pretty unique opportunity to give away in the next five minutes. We have a family pass to Adelaide Zoo where you can visit Adelaide's new giant panda pair. They are shing Chi Youu and e Lahn. Shing Chi Youu and e La.

01:07:28
Speaker 2: They're not up and about yet, are they these? Are they still quarantine? You can't actually well you get in and see them yet.

01:07:34
Speaker 1: So this is with almost to be able to get in and see them.

01:07:36
Speaker 2: This is when they're the equivalent of that Influences conference down at Non Confidence Influences. What was the thing they had at the Sam Smith at the qube I see you an exclusive event for the most irritating people on the planet.

01:07:49
Speaker 1: Except FM tosses. But she except they won't be there for this, we should relate. It'll be just excellent five to below. Listeners to you and e Lahn if you want to get along. They are the sequel, so to speak, when it comes to giant pandas at the zoo. We want to hear from you about when the sequel was better than the original. What sequel was better than the original? Eight double two to three double o double.

01:08:14
Speaker 2: Oh, hopefully it will be much better than the I mean, they brought a lot of joy, but you know they had one job and did they do it?

01:08:21
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, they did not further.

01:08:23
Speaker 2: One KPI to meet and you know, did you quote from family Feud?

01:08:28
Speaker 1: All over to you, shing Chi, You and Elan get calling? Now what sequel was better than the original? Eight double two three A double double Oh, let's tell you what. Good luck getting to Manato.

01:08:37
Speaker 2: Over the last month, abably Nado was booked out every day because of the elephants. There's an elephant fever.

01:08:43
Speaker 1: Menado feels like it's always been great, but it's about to explode with the hotel, and it feels like it's about to be I mean, I think it seems silly to say because it always has been, but it's going to go to a new level of being a worldwide attraction. Were people going to come here to go to it? As I said, like they have been on a bigger scale than before. That's excellent. So two of the texts the police Homecare text lines before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, A couple of those. While we wait to hear from a listener who has a sequel that's better than the original for.

01:09:13
Speaker 2: Us, there's one on the text line the police Home Care text line from Chris in Wayville nominating terminator two good answer. I yeah, very much agree with that one, even though the first one's good.

01:09:23
Speaker 1: James Cameron, I think the second one.

01:09:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Kerry says, guys, welcome back, Geez. That interview at the Premier was extremely revealing. I watched it on the live stream. His body language is a dead giveaway. Pub test fail. It was a pants on fire interview. Iani morpha Vale says, guys, surely fixing ambulance response times will only mean longer ramping times. Logic would suggest that it's true, like I'm here, Oh no, can you can you do a few laps.

01:09:50
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyone's buying the answer that.

01:09:54
Speaker 20: Oh you meant that crisis, Oh that one. We were talking of the other crisis, right, this is the wrong one. It was a silly miscommunication.

01:10:02
Speaker 2: Helen, however, says, stop blaming the premiere. He's doing the best job he can. There's too many migrants. This is our post fault. There's a line that the Premier could use if he wants to know. It's a lot easy to do this. It's not for our bow.

01:10:15
Speaker 1: We had a new Darwin and Camber every year. At the moment in Australia, which big numbers are big numbers?

01:10:22
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill, having a crack at the Libs, says, I'd like to know when Stacy talks about a debate, who will the premier be debating, because the way they're going there won't be any liberals left. And another one he I agree with Stacy. The new clarification has the legal responsibility being on the hospital as soon as an ambulance enters the hospital's property, rather than when Ambo's hand over to Ed. I smell a ramping rat.

01:10:46
Speaker 1: Matthew in Mono Power was the first caller through with a sequel better than the original. Matthew, good morning.

01:10:52
Speaker 2: Morning Fellas.

01:10:53
Speaker 16: This one is so good they actually named the film not Phenomenon and it's John Howard.

01:10:58
Speaker 2: Ah second time a Lazarus were a triple bypass absolutely took it in a different direction.

01:11:05
Speaker 1: Mack, you're going to tell you what it counts as a secret better than the original, which means you're getting along to see the giant panters, the new ones that the Adelaide Zoo is at. Adelaide's new giant panda pair Shing Chiu and e Lahn now exploring their home at Adelaide Zoo.

01:11:20
Speaker 2: A lot of our listeners would remember the Joe for PM stickers that appeared in the Sunday Mail in nineteen eighty seven. I'm going to say when the Queensland Premier decided it was going to run with the backing of John Elliott and Howard was leader, and there was a poll on the front page of the bulletin magazine, the headline mister fourteen percent, why does this man bother John Howard.

01:11:45
Speaker 1: I'm just going to launch a premptive defense of you, David, because I know Terry and Heinley Beach right now is texting in saying it took an hour and fifty eight minutes for the first John Howard mentioned of the program. You didn't mention.

01:11:54
Speaker 2: Him, No, I didn't. Somebody else did.

01:11:56
Speaker 1: We got a caller, okay, Terry, So you.

01:11:58
Speaker 2: Just told you I was ready to go over a lengthy John Howard, And that's true.

01:12:02
Speaker 1: You had it armed and ready, you had it cocked. It was on the list, ready to fire, on.

01:12:06
Speaker 2: A list of things to say. I haven't even told a Mexico anecdote yet. We've been here for almost two hours.

01:12:10
Speaker 1: We get another hour. Don't worry about that five double A news is coming up breaking in eight.

01:12:13
Speaker 5: Next David Benberthey and Will Goodings six to nine five double A breakfast seven.

01:12:19
Speaker 1: Minutes after rate pretty overcast starting the day our DAG seven. It was on the Foodland Supermarkets Facebook and YouTube live stream ahead of what's going to be another warm one though thirty four degrees. It's been Jordan, our residence Statsman's oldest. We've had twice as many days between thirty and thirty five degrees this summer as we usually would have, and it's hawty summer. In fact, we've had the most number of those days since nineteen sixty six, and it's made it a hotter summer than usual, despite the fact there's been no heat wave to do any of the heavy lifting. It's just because we've had this hit, this sweet spot of a terrific summer.

01:12:48
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the story I was transfixed on during the summer break was the Pacific Palisades. Yeah, it's so hard to wrap your head around and in the middle of winter, the scale of it, the middle of winter in La some of those fires still going, Yeah.

01:13:01
Speaker 1: They've been put out. I think the Palisades one is still going it's just astonishing. There's total suburbia. Yeah, but you look at the actual what the streets. Look what before is the equivalent of Burnside village. It's an Adelaide Hills fire that claimed McGill and Burnside.

01:13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, Parkside parks like it came right down and right in. Yeah. It's the overlays that the tizer did of the scale of it, you know, burning from the equivalent of Grange to McGill down to and Curramana Valley. It was just mind blowing.

01:13:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Is Rogers sent us a text on the Police Home Care text line. It's this morning, chaps. It astounds me the apparent indifference shown by the state government to the affected tomato growers. We're gonna be chatting with one of those growers, Peter Penzios this morning, the owner of Essay Tomatoes, who have had to sack their last ten workers. They've had to go bust. It could cost them their home. But they're not taking the situation lying down. They're considering legal action. They're talking about what they say is a ridiculous way in which this disease is. This virus has been categorized here in Australia and indeed some issues with the testing process. They say it returns false positives, and the outcome of those false positives is jobs going and business is going shut. So Roger, yeah, I think you're right. There does seem to be a lack of concern for these people. But maybe that's about to change, and it might change after eight thirty today when we chat with Peter Petsios on the program It's time for Breaking It eight. You'll know the name Alex Costa Reartists. We've spoken to him over a period of some twelve months now. He got in contact with our program exasperated at his interactions with the NDIS when his daughter who was assessed as needing two on one care for twenty four hours a day and the NDS said, well, your case doesn't represent value for money. Ludicrous assertion. Given now what we know about the NDS with regard to routing and all the sorts of things that do get covered, how could it be that someone like Alex, a loving and devoted father, doesn't get looked after by the system designed to protect people like him. What did it mean for him? We talk about the tomato growers, He had to sell his business. He's home was at risk. He and his wife became the two on one care for twenty four hours a day. Well, he took that fight on our program to the NDIS Minister Bill Shortens.

01:15:22
Speaker 2: So that was one of Shorten's last interviews as minister before he left to become the chancellor of Camber University. And with great courage and great composure. Yep, Alex really put Bill Shorton on the spot right here on this program and it's paid significant dividends.

01:15:37
Speaker 1: Well, that was the first November twenty twenty four we got contacted by Alex over the Christmas break because he got some excellent news. Alex, good morning to you.

01:15:45
Speaker 21: Made good morning. Let's welcome back.

01:15:48
Speaker 2: Good to be back, Alex. So good to start the year with a good news story.

01:15:52
Speaker 21: Yeah, thank good for that.

01:15:55
Speaker 1: So what happened, Alex, bring our listeners up to speed with well, what's developed?

01:16:00
Speaker 21: So after the interview with Bill Shorten, I'm not quite sure was before after that I got the emails back saying you've been accepted to the tribunal, so you have to go to an independent tribunal. That was the next step moving forward. And Bill Shorten's office email back saying, look, we sort of have to wipe our hands of it because it's in the you're part of the tribunal process now. So we thought, okay, no worries, thinking we're going to have consultations with the NDOS office and us with some judge or something listening in. But no, we got a letter from a massive legal firm which we had to fight against the whole legal firm now or not just the NDS, which we really crapped ourselves, and we've got down let of thinking, oh my god, you know, just a family fighting against a big legal firm. They sent us a big list of things we had to provide them. We had to go back to when our daughter was first injured at seven weeks old. We had to chase up letters and discharge letters and so forth from the women's and children's hospital. They were twenty years old. We had to prove to them that she actually did have a brain injury. And we thought we're in trouble now, we're actually going to end up with nothing. But they we presented all the information we presented the NDS with the two reviews. They actually must have read all the information because they came back and wanted to do a quick meeting before Christmas started Nolwyn on holidays and we thought, you know why we're going to have to do this for we just wanted to rest over Christmas and come back fresh in the new year. But anyway, we got on the phone on the nineteenth of December, the day before my daughter's birthday, and they said, all right, we're going to give you an offer, which were shocked but insting we're going to get one that quick. And the offer was we're going to give you twenty four hour care two on to one and keep the rest of your plan.

01:18:03
Speaker 16: As it was so everything we wanted.

01:18:06
Speaker 21: Yeah, it were just dumbfounded. We had to repeat it two or three times over the phone to make sure we heard we heard them correctly.

01:18:15
Speaker 1: And I thought they were gearing up for a big legal fight, but in the end they obviously looked at your case and when actually this guy's been he's been dunted by the system.

01:18:24
Speaker 21: Yeah, so it just goes to show had the NDS initially, the first two reviews that we had done, had they actually read the information that we provided, you know, none of this would have happened. And you know, so now you know they're going to throw us a lot of money which they burnt, A lot of money that would cacklated. It was over a million dollars. I think they would have burnt with what they did, not giving us the right decistem in the beginning. And now they're giving us everything we're in want and more, which is amazing. But you know the damage has been done as well, so it's a bit of sweet pill. You know it's going to take us god knows how long now to get our daughter back to where she was.

01:19:06
Speaker 16: Well.

01:19:06
Speaker 2: Mate, it's a credit to you that you fought so hard for your daughter. And if you hadn't come on our show repeatedly, and if you hadn't kept us abreast of what was happening, I don't know if you would have got this result. So good on your mate for fighting as hard as you did, Alex and as we said, love starting twenty twenty five with a story that's got such a positive result.

01:19:25
Speaker 21: Yeah, and I want to thank you guys as well. You did amazing for supporting us this whole year or last year, and you know it means the world to us. I thank you so much, No, not at.

01:19:33
Speaker 1: All, mate, Good on you mate. We couldn't be happy we couldn't have been happy to get that text over summer that that they could celebrate enjoy Christmas in New Years as they should have been able to this whole time as just loving parents. Totally got the support they needed. Lovely good news story. Good on your Alex Costa riatas.

01:19:51
Speaker 2: Well. Earlier the premiere, Peter millon OUs has really opened the shoulders when he was discussing the ramping question and step by name, he really went after the liberal shadow Health Minister of Ashton Hearn.

01:20:05
Speaker 4: The very review that Ashtonharn called for, made a recommendation. Now we're implementing the recommendation. And what does Ashton Hern come out and do. She comes up and makes things up to suggest that somehow this is a you know, the government trying to change the way that ramping data operates. It is completely untrue. It's a total falsehood. It's been called out by doctors, it's been called out by ambos, and this sort of scaremongering tactics an overreach that we're seeing from Ashton Hearn seems to be a bit of a bit of a trend on her part, and I think she would do herself a far better service and do the Liberal Party a far better service. Rather than making up lies and saying untrue and trying to scare people with falsehoods, maybe they just might want to come up with a policy of their own.

01:20:51
Speaker 2: We have Ashton Hearn on the line, Ashton Hearn, falsehood scaremongering, making things up. What do you say in response to the Premiere.

01:20:58
Speaker 13: Well, look, I think the chickens are obviously coming home to roost with the Premier's promise to fix ramping, and I thought it was a bit of a bizarre rant, perhaps uncharacteristic from the Premier, but look, he can make as many personal reflections as he likes, but it's certainly not going to stop me doing my job, which is to hold the government to account for their promise or the opposition. And one thing I would say is that the Premier and the government they do have form in cherry picking all this data when it comes to ramping because they want to look at one hospital or one local health network. But the stats just don't lie when it comes to ramping. Because they've delivered thirty one of the worst months of ramping in our state's history, and that means that people are more likely to be ramped under this government than they were the formal one. And I think it's a bit cute of the Premiere to talk about fear mongering when his very central election promise he urged people to vote labor like their life depended on it. And this sense of urgency to try't address the problem has completely evaporated since the election and it's disappointing just to see the Premiere yet again trying to change the.

01:22:08
Speaker 1: Goalpost Ashton and he made the point that you were effectively critical of the recommendations of a inquiry that you in fact called for. Is that accurate?

01:22:17
Speaker 13: Yeah, So this is an interesting one and you and David would understand and reflective last year when it was David Pope who actually billed the cat where he said that people were dying in emergency departments just because of this overcrowding. So there was a review which we absolutely supported, but we shared the concerns of clinicians who were critical about the terms of reference for that review. There were essentially three dot points that were written by the minister and I think the review actually only interviewed about fast people. So afterwards David Pope called the review a whitewash. Now, we support things that are going to improve outcomes to patients, but when it comes to this change in policy, and it is a very clear change in policy, And actually a caller on five double A last week said, you know, when a government says there's nothing to see here, it usually means that you need to keep digging a little bit deeper, because yeah, there is a fundamental change here. We support things that will make things better for patients, but this doesn't have patient care at the center. In fact, it is about trying to trick the public into believing that the record ramping that labor created is coming down. All it does is essentially past the buck and moves patients from the hospital car park.

01:23:34
Speaker 17: To the hospital corridor.

01:23:36
Speaker 2: Ashton Hern, the Shadow Health Minister, thanks for joining us there.

01:23:39
Speaker 1: It's not eve minutes after right. We'll get to some of your texts on the Police Homecare text line in a moment, but a.

01:23:44
Speaker 2: Lot of great feedback already, heaps of feedback about the Police home Care text line is absolutely groaning with really positive and happy messages along these lines from Debbie, what a superman dad. Their daughter is so lucky to have him. Go Alex and mine here from Helen saying maybe they should give Alex some money's going to give his business back, given that they were responsible for all of the financial pressure that the family had to sustain. Good text to there, Helen, thank you.

01:24:15
Speaker 1: A lovely moment at Australian Open over the weekend. So it wasn't one of the involved Nervakdjokovic or Tony Jones involved, or Medvedev involved Medvedev.

01:24:25
Speaker 2: There's not enough. There's too many irritating stories out of the Australia.

01:24:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's one beautiful story involves a seven year old boy who became an Internet sensations worldwide after he celebrated it skipped along, he got to do the coin toss in the Carlos Alchoraz match. He's hero who then got taken under our Karaz's wing. He went and took him to the to the press conference afterwards. We're gonna be chatting with him and his dad on the other side of this break Let's check traffic first.

01:24:50
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, Double a Breakfast twenty four.

01:24:55
Speaker 1: After right, we spent a bit of time with Tom Wren talking about some of the ugliness that's come out of the straight and open. There has been some wonderful stories too, and none better than that of John Jones, the seven year old who got to flick, toss the coin and become a star. But the second part wasn't part of the design. He just couldn't help his exuberance at the Carlos al Karaz match, and he subsequently went on to have what it sounds like the experience of a lifetime. John and his dad, Andy Jones, join us on five Double a Breakfast. John and Andy, Good morning to you.

01:25:30
Speaker 2: Hey, John, I've watched that wonderful YouTube video mate of you with your hero Carlos. What was it like meeting him?

01:25:39
Speaker 6: Amazing?

01:25:41
Speaker 2: He just seemed like a friendly guy, didn't he?

01:25:44
Speaker 6: Yeah?

01:25:46
Speaker 2: And how long have you been a fan of Carlos al Karez?

01:25:50
Speaker 15: Like the I tossed the coin?

01:25:57
Speaker 1: Did you get nervous tossing the coin? Lots of people watching? What about that little dance? You were pretty happy?

01:26:06
Speaker 12: What an.

01:26:09
Speaker 2: H is?

01:26:13
Speaker 1: John?

01:26:14
Speaker 2: Andy?

01:26:14
Speaker 1: Is John always that exuberant?

01:26:17
Speaker 22: Yes?

01:26:17
Speaker 23: Pretty much. That's uh. We've been We've been obviously a whirlwind for the last you know, forty eight hours and everybody says, you know, was he told to do?

01:26:26
Speaker 2: That?

01:26:27
Speaker 23: Was that directed? And I'm like, no, that's John. John skips into school every morning, yell. That's all of his friends in the school yard. When he rocks up to his Hotshots tennis every week, he's screaming from the car to his coach and running bouncing in. And we had no idea so that the team at tennis is strain. Is strain from a fantastic We did get a text message before the task when the cordninerator said, oh my god, everybody loves him down here, and we're like, what do you mean. It's just John, you know, because we're so used to it. But it's happy John. I mean, we sit in an interview, you know, all you want, you know where I feel young. So I don't feel like I should be a dad because the brain's fifteen. But all you want is to bring somebody up. You just want to bring your kids, kids up happy, right, but you know, and live their best life. And you can clearly see he is. I mean, you know, we've been back out to the Australian Open a few times and kids have walked up and said hello. And we did a piece for Tennis Australia because John. John basically said to me, Dad, all I want and John, you can tell him what do you want kids to do?

01:27:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, good advice, but if you.

01:27:41
Speaker 23: Can just inspire it, and you know, if I can inspire a few kids to come and play tennis, then everything's worth it. So we had a beautiful day out there yesterday and a lot of kids coming up to him and all excited, which is fantastic, and you know, everybody's been amazing and it's actually a real moment, you know, all because John and John.

01:28:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, John, I liked the bit in the video where you were talking about how many people have liked it on Instagram and all of that. Like it's you've become a social media sensation. I'll tell you what. When school started, you were back up school a couple of weeks time. You're going to tell all your school friends about this. Yeah, they probably know already. You're going to be the star of school when you arrive Monday.

01:28:30
Speaker 20: Mate, sounds like you already are anyway, so.

01:28:36
Speaker 23: You probably can't know him, but he's laughing really hard. He's just beaming and smiling. I mean he fell asleep a couple of nights ago with the ball when he's said, smiling at him, I don't even know how his cheeks are still on his face.

01:28:51
Speaker 1: Well, I think he made the rest of the country smile like he does.

01:28:53
Speaker 2: John.

01:28:53
Speaker 1: It was a really lovely moment.

01:28:55
Speaker 23: That's great and we're so grateful that. You know, everybody across Adelaide, we've had a lot of messages and you know, people telling he's bo. He's like, what am I sick? I'm not viral, no idea, He's just got no idea what's going on other than the fact that he's trying to support and help and help kids. So we really do appreciate you, you know, rereaking out to us that I told him today. People innialated, goes why why and I'm like, because you're a good kid, will do it now?

01:29:30
Speaker 1: John, the rest of the to Andy, thank you so much.

01:29:39
Speaker 2: Call against Jokovic too in the quarter final.

01:29:43
Speaker 23: It's going to be we actually.

01:29:46
Speaker 2: We'll be tough one.

01:29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you guys, John and Andy Jones. Lovely little family providing terrific highlight.

01:29:56
Speaker 2: He's a favorite for that, surely.

01:29:58
Speaker 1: Yeah jocovijoo, No you don't. But he's the up and comer versus the aging veterans, the sort of great matchups in sport. It's going to be fascinating. Good to speak with the it's notice to speak with some Joneses out of the Australian Open, the nut causing controvers five Double A news is coming up. We're back with more in just a moment.

01:30:18
Speaker 5: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five Double A Breakfast twenty.

01:30:23
Speaker 1: Minutes to nine. Good piece in the TiSER this morning that covers the plight of the owners of SA Tomato Peter and Oriana Petzio Sorianakam on the program late last year as part of a breaking at eight, who, according to the U TYSS reporting last week, laid off the remaining ten or so staff after they were informed the de seedling returned a positive test for tomato brown rugos fruit virus back in December. They've been a business for sixty five years. They may lose their home, they said, they've already lost about three million dollars, but they are going to fight. What does that mean and what are some of the fallibilities they see in the system. Peter Petzios joins us from SA tomorrow. Mattow now, Peter, good morning to you.

01:31:08
Speaker 12: Morning Dave had On.

01:31:09
Speaker 2: We're good, Thank you, Peter. It's Dave here. The situation you guys find yourself in my understanding is you had there was one positive test in December, but you say, with a degree of backing too from biosecurity expert, that it was a false positive. And after that you had four hundred subsequent tests, all of them were negative. All four hundred were negative. That's correct, yes, So you know, how is it that with so much evidence that there was there was no contamination at your nursery, that you now find yourself in a position where you've gone bust?

01:31:47
Speaker 22: Yeah, well what can I say? What are we going to say the testing was a false positive. That's what we beloved with anyway, because what we did is we did a pilot protocol and there was one thousand plants that were meant to be planted. So we put those seedlings in very carefully and without any contamination or it's a sterile environment. So we put them in a small room of say four hundred square meters. Now, we didn't graft those plans like we normally do, and nobody touched those plants, no human hands had ever touched those plants, so what bisecurity it is? Come and do four subsequential samplings. On the third sampling, they found one plant with a positive and at that time I knew that it had to be the seed, it had to be the seat, because nobody else touched anything. Anyway, they come back and I asked for a confirmation. So they came back and they took two samples of every plant, which was about four hundred samples. What they do is they put ten samples in a bag and assay, we call that and they tested those and we got those results back and to my surprise, I mean like there was no more positives there. So this disease had miraculously disappeared. Now we asked for please explain. But what they did in that moment they actually put slapped another Section nine on me, which you restricted us from any further trade.

01:33:20
Speaker 21: They ran Victoria.

01:33:21
Speaker 22: Immediately and told them to stop all business and all that and quickly go down to the farm there and have a look. So as a result, they've shut another Victorian business down. So that's four now in the last six months. And these are some of the biggest rollers in Australia. So they've given us. They've given us, they've given us a test that I see that's impossible to pass. Now, there's multiple avenues we can go down here, Dave, depends on which one you want to look at first. But if we look at the seed testing protocol, I want to make this clear that the government only takes out a sample of seed, not every seed is tested. So the seed that we receive has never been tested. Never because to test the seed you need to destroy the seed. So if they had to give us a one hundred percent guarantee, would never have any seed. So they take out, say, for example, twenty thousand seed out of a batch of one million, so that gives us a ninety nine percent conference. So there's a one percent chance. They say in their theory, no guarantees, in their theory, that one percent can potentially be contaminated. Now, if we work out over one hundred and six thousand plants, one plant is oero point one percent.

01:34:49
Speaker 12: That's what they've found.

01:34:50
Speaker 22: So they've shut us South Australian business down on one seed leap.

01:34:56
Speaker 12: Now, I rang up the.

01:34:57
Speaker 22: Minister last week and I spoke to the the advisor and I simply said, what are you doing. What what the hell are you doing? What are you trying to run us out of business for? Who were you fighting for? Now? Let me act that we sent a sample of this positive result to the Victorian labs and they gave us a negative result. The South Australian lab gave us a positive result. I mean, the Victorian government has given us a chance after six months.

01:35:31
Speaker 21: Out of their sympathy.

01:35:32
Speaker 22: But they gave us a pilot protocol they call it now. They said, look this boor bars that he's been out of work for six months. That's given them another chance. So what we did, we did this very important test for our livelihoods. We were ready, our staff were to work for six months.

01:35:51
Speaker 21: We got them back.

01:35:52
Speaker 22: We washed the place down perfect. We did this protocol as best we could and we failed. And we failed because of the South Australian government had come up with one plant m Now who's the government fighting for? Here?

01:36:06
Speaker 1: Us Peters down the line mate, because the chief plant health officer from PERSA, Nick Seekam, has just called in morning to you.

01:36:16
Speaker 2: Nick.

01:36:17
Speaker 1: I trust you've been listening to Peter and doubtless you're will across his case. What what do we do? Different tests? In South Australia compared to Victoria.

01:36:27
Speaker 24: No we don't. Thanks thanks for having me on. And look if we're just clear up a couple of things. So so first of all, this this U just be careful.

01:36:35
Speaker 2: How you just Nick, Let's just frame this properly. Be careful how you do it, because on the line you've got a bloke he's lost his livelihood. Bear that course when you're clearing up a few things.

01:36:44
Speaker 24: Thank you very much, thank you, And so I know Peter, we've met a number of times. But there's a couple of things that do need to be clarified. One is that the firstly, this this positive detection is one that has gone through a national accredited system for diagnosing this disease, and it's clearly.

01:37:05
Speaker 16: Not a false positive.

01:37:06
Speaker 24: It is a positive detection and it was on more than one plant. And so the sampling that we involves taking a number of leaf samples across the facility. This one would have been at least ten leaf samples from that facility. And the follow up sampling that we did, as Peter said, we went back after this positive detection was found. We did some follow up sampling and they haven't come back. They haven't come back all negative. So and of course, unfortunately we've now got a second positive detection, a separate positive detection in the crop that was sent to Victoria.

01:37:50
Speaker 1: Peter, what do you make of that?

01:37:52
Speaker 22: I think that's that's a line. I've got the evidence here from the laboratory. I've got four hundred and ten samples taken now is correct. What they did is they took one hundred and four samples, so there's one thousand plants. They put ten leafs in a bag. We call that an assay, and they test that bag and they come back with a positive or negative. Now, one of those bags come back with a level of thirty three point seven. Now that's three point seven over over the international standards. So the rest of the world say anything over thirty two is a negative. These guys here, for whatever reason they like to make up their own rules, is that they say that thirty three point seven is a positive. Now we say, have you got cancer or you haven't got cancer? Which one is it? They can't give us a straight out.

01:38:42
Speaker 12: They say in.

01:38:43
Speaker 22: Europe you're negative, but in Australia you're positive. This is the rules that they make up themselves. So that's why we say this is very unfair. Secondly, after they found that positive, they came back. They took four hundred something. They took two thousand pieces of leaf off the same one.

01:39:03
Speaker 24: Meter by one meter square area.

01:39:06
Speaker 22: They took more than they should so just to confirm that the positive, that the virus was present. And I've got results. He if I'm the laboratory all listed negative all the way down on the twenty third of December, I have no positive.

01:39:23
Speaker 12: Results.

01:39:23
Speaker 22: And on the commercial crop there was no positive results. But what he did forget about that, all right? He quickly, he quickly ran the Victorian government.

01:39:34
Speaker 12: And he destroyed our business simply like that. Now, who is this person?

01:39:40
Speaker 22: They say they're trying to help us. Who is he trying to help? But I don't understand who was trying to go? Is this some sort of a Is this some sort of a status? Now that's that's subject?

01:39:52
Speaker 2: Is this headed for court.

01:39:55
Speaker 1: For caution for court for court? He going to fly the court?

01:39:58
Speaker 22: Lookin, I think it we take this to court, they're probably losing about five minutes. I think they'll be laughed out of court because this is embarrassing. This is embarrassing for the South Australian government. This is the South Australian government has just put small business out of work here. You know, we look at the cost of living, we look at you know, the housing crisis, the hospital situation. These guys are just making it worse for everybody. I don't understand. Really, I can't find the motive for here. I don't know what they're trying to do.

01:40:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter, thank you, and thank you to Nick Seekam who called in. Two things I'd say to wrap that up. One is, I would imagine now that the threat of legal action has been raised, that everything that Nick second from Persia had to say would have been carefully discussed with the Crown Solicitor's Office this morning to make sure that all relevant asses had been thoroughly covered given the potential exposure. But in a broader political sense, how is it you can have a government that's madly jumping on planes to Wayala to save potentially three hundred and fifty jobs in the context of GfG, yet up the raid in Virginia when five hundred jobs have been lost in the tomato industry. The government position is well, not our fault. How does that work?

01:41:12
Speaker 1: Sounds like that? One is heading for a court room to decide, and Nicholas Senda Fanti is the Shadow Minister for Primary Industries and she has called in.

01:41:20
Speaker 2: What do you make of this? Sir?

01:41:21
Speaker 25: Nicholt firstly acknowledged the absolute heartbreaking situation that Peter Oriana and their team are facing. It say tomatoes. You know, it's devastating news and it's yet another blow for the tomato industry here in South Australia. And to your point, I think what's especially damning is I think that potentially this whole fiasco could have been avoided if the malanawskis lay the government valued primary industries like they do DFG, or perhaps they're fast failing Green Hydrogen project.

01:41:55
Speaker 11: You know.

01:41:57
Speaker 18: The opposition's concern is there have been so many inconsistent stancies with the testing process or at least the communication of these test results. We've we've had persa's response. Incident Controller Peter Appleford quoted in The Advertiser back before Christmas saying that the test results, which had become available in the eighteenth of December, showed that the plant that SA tomatoes did not contain the virus so when negative. Yet a week later, the story seems to have changed and Claire Scribbn should be ensuring that her department has capacity and capability to flex up during these times to ensure that test results have turned around rapidly and there's good lines of communication of transparency and accountability, but sadly under this minister we don't see that happening. It's time the premiere stepped in.

01:42:44
Speaker 25: But where is he? To your point, where is the Premiere?

01:42:47
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Nicolas senta Fanti.

01:42:52
Speaker 1: Get to the bottom precisely Australia's fruit.

01:42:54
Speaker 2: Bowl, you know, been hugely important with our industry.

01:42:58
Speaker 1: Nick Seakm's point and with what Peter Pertziels are saying, We're not going to resolve whose tests are, what, where and how here and now the only thing we can talk about is about the government's response and what the priority appears to have been. And it just doesn't feel like we pers are doing testing. Fine, that's their thing, but then the political arm of the government should be the one that they're in fighting for smato growers and that just doesn't seem to be. That space has been vacated completely.

01:43:22
Speaker 2: I don't know where the local membor is on this. Nick Champion, I things to make good housing land.

01:43:29
Speaker 1: Got a few police home care texts to that suggestion. Let's check traffic. Back to wrap in a moment.

01:43:36
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01:43:41
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01:44:30
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01:45:40
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01:45:56
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01:46:02
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01:46:20
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