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You are listening to the figure Outs podcast.
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I'm your host, Nick Leet from the band High On
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Stress out of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and this is a different episode.
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We do not have a guest today. I'm usually interviewing someone.
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That's super sweet, but today we are going to preview
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my new solo record, Detours.
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Which is coming out this Friday, May second.
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It will be available on the band camp to High
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End Stress band Camp and it will also have subscens
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coming out to those are big manufacturers seeking pre order
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of those. They are almost done, so shipping shouldn't be
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too far after release.
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And hope you'll check it out. I hope you will
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give it a listen and maybe pick up a copy.
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All the support is appreciating on a High on Stress front.
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The album continues to be record. We're hoping for a
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late twenty twenty five release and that's the official follow
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up to twenty twenties Hold Me In and then other
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High on Stress news. We are hitting the road Friday
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Dope by Led Thursday May first, debukee Iowa at the
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Lift Friday May second at Montrose Saloon in Chicago, Illinois
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as part of the International Pops Overthrow festival. I was
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a good time, great bands, great crowds, and it kind
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of rules. And then Saturday we are going to be
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playing at the Law Office Lub in Yorkville with the
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Strug Center pal Matt Dirda in the Hiowan. So all
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kinds of high end stress shenanigans about to kick off
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here as well as the solo Detour's elbow soap. Thank
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you for your patients. It's been a long long time since.
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We've released the music, and now we've got the solo.
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Record coming out and followed by the high on.
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Stress record as soon as we get that done. So
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thank you for your patience through all that. Without further ado,
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I bring you.
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Detours.
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He's to the rising sun. Leave me We're alive. Don't
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expect too munch plan of my next move inside of.
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My control Biston holder, cold sun coming around the game.
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Let me take you there on the colder stairs back
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where we push mean susher for a piece of mind.
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We were too young at five, was.
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Trying to get to staxt.
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Cold windside color around again, the.
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Cold windside color around.
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In the way we cut the man into blanket stars.
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In the words shoes shoes could.
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But stand from kid Win noos in the.
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Backs of bars and I'm so whim pressed but attached
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to what should think.
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Been next.
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As you dude.
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Cold Wins.
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That is the first song off of Detours. I've got
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some guests on that. Kevin Salem is playing guitar. Also
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a game of co write on that.
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Quite honestly, like that guitar part that he put on
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that thing.
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Come on, I made that song go so big props
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to Kevin Salem for playing guitar on that, and uh,
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Dan Murphy also played guitar and backing vocals on that.
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Dan of Soul Asylum and Golden Smog and his great
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new band of Scarlet Goodbye Fame.
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That was quite the honor.
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I'm I've been a big fan of Kevin Salem's work
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now for quite a few years. At this point I
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was late to the game, but it's I love his albums.
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All of them are really good. He's played with a
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lot of people as well, like he does a lot
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of studio work, Sideman work. He's played with Freddy Johnston,
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Yola Tango and he was a Dump Truck and played
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with Rachel Yamagatta Masters, the Mike Doughty records.
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Like He's oh and Matthew Ryan. I'm a big Matthew
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Ryan guy.
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He actually worked on the Boxers record with Matthew Ryan
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and played on one of my favorite Matthew Ryan songs.
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And then she threw me like a hand grenade. Check
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out that song. It's freaking great. But Kevin Salem like
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minded dude. Love the way he views the world. I
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love his guitar playing.
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Oh my gosh.
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When he sent me that track, I was like, I
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was in Soma City Heaven. And if you're a fan
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of Kevin you know that that's his Soma City was
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his debut record back in the nineties. He was so
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freaking cool, so really cool to have Kevin on this.
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Dan contributed as well with guitar and backing vocals.
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He played some super cool stuff.
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He's a great dude, obviously, Minneapolis legend over here in
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the Twin Cities, and quite an honor to have him
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jump on on the record and lay down some cool
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parts and some great backing vocals. So that was Cold
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Winds Up next is remember their names. The song doesn't
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need much in terms of prepping. It kind of speaks
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for itself.
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Wheneverything is said and done, it will still be right
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and wrong and.
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Disasters head it's ted.
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Found it on the backs of others against We're finally
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showing our cous country that is lost.
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It's weird, we're remade bad name.
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The competing since Nickol's division and blood of boy.
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You know what trade is?
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I was gonna trade.
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When everything stood and ash nothing was built to last.
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Weeding fool the youth do have it's we will remain.
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Name.
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When everything is said and done, there will still be
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right and wrong.
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After disaster's head, it's died. After disaster's head. It's after disaster's.
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Head is to how did we get here?
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That slowly roading like the years in our lives and
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the bars on the flag.
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We'd like to think we had no way and no one,
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But slowly and faster we gave it all.
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You couldn't get ad attack, quel challenge, you can get busy.
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We'll continue to cry, judging people buy the color of
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the skim.
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Slowly then faster people.
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Uh time, Maybe we all had it color. It's clear
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now as nothing to do.
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With barely.
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We gave it away.
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The only way forward is through.
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Now is the time for decisions. We shake where it's
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on fire. We stir our phones because it's hard to
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be alone. Slowly then faster.
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Walking.
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While me we are coming.
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It's clear now there's nothing to do with barely word.
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We gave him away.
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The only way forward is true, maybe way ouside coming.
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It's clear now there's nothing to do.
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With very word.
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We gave him the only way fo It's true.
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That was remember their names.
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With Jim Sol on backing vocals, followed by slowly then faster,
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which also has Jim sol this time on bass guitar.
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And then my good friend Andrew Hira, he of Billy
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Pilgrim and Smoking Nova's and solo fame. If you've been
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following high End Stress for the last handful of years,
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you probably have heard me shouting from the rooftops the
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magic and wizardry that is Andrew Hyra.
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Andrew was in a band and is in a band
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called Billy Pilgrim.
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There were in Atlantic Records in the nineties and my
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first band, Standard Thompson. Our first show in Surre, North Dakota,
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at our high school. We were playing some three chord
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yelling punk rock stuff and we didn't have enough songs,
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so singer Mike Jelden and I sat down Who's Now
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in Dakota Shakedown. You probably have listened to that episode
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of the podcast as well. But we sat down and
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did a handful of acoustic songs just to kind of
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open for ourselves, to make the show longer. And one
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of the songs that we had played was this song.
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There was a I think it was called Current Visions
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and you could buy the CD at Target and it
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was like a record label compilation that had the Jayhawks.
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I think Blue was on there, which is amazing. Obviously
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the Goo Goo Dolls were on there. I think Reverend
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Horton heat. I don't have it in front of.
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Me, but Billy Pilgrim is on there.
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And Mike and I heard sweet Louisiana Sound and we
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were both like, the song is really really damn cool.
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So we learned it. We played it at our first
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ever show and years later.
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You know, I go down to Ottaw, Illinois to play
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shows there often usually solo acoustics style stuff, and my
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friend Dave, who runs the Songwriter series, I was telling
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me about this this great musician that was coming named
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Andrew Hira, and I'm like, okay, yeah, that's cool.
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What's that like?
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And he's like, he was in this band called Billy Pilgrim,
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and I was like, wait, wait, wait what? And so
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thanks to Dave for making the introduction there. But it's
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become kind of a mutual admiration society. Andrew likes the
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high end stress stuff and I've obviously loved Andrew's stuff for.
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A very long time. Didn't even realize his name.
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I just knew Billy Pilgrim, and you know, he and
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Christian Bush are Billy Pilgrim. Christian Bush went on to
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start the country super stardom act Sugarland.
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Also quite a nice guy.
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But Andrew Poultz co wrote never got that far and
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saying on it on the last High on Strus record,
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hold Me and and around that point we were doing
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more and more writing and collaborations, just really having a
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good time with it and you know it. Some points
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we talked about doing an EP and ended up playing
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some shows and Jim and I Jim Soul and I
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from Hyan Stress also we went down to Atlanta and
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played some shows with Christian and Andrew and Matthew Taylor.
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Who's something you got to check him out to.
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But it's just amazing, amazing, amazing musicianship out of those
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two cats tell you what just watching them work on
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new songs together face to face, you know, sitting on
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the couch with guitars.
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There is some magic to what Andrew and Christian do.
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And you can listen to records, you'll be like, these
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are great songs, and this is some amazing singing. When
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you are in a room with that, it is a
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freight train. I can't even describe just the level of
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skill emotion. I've heard Andrew described as singing with his
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whole his whole body. That is a thing.
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He's just a brilliant, brilliant singer guy, also very like minded,
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which I can appreciate these weird times and really glad
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to know them. And on that song, slowly than faster,
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it's kind of a weird time. You might recall I
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live in the Twin Cities and in twenty twenty we
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were going through a pandemic. I don't think you've forgotten
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that bit, and George Floyd was murdered, which was horrifying
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and terrible, and the city was in a loss for words,
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to say the least. And the policeman who killed him
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is now in jail, and during this time, there were
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riots and protests and all sorts of things going on,
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and you know, there were tanks going down the street,
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and there were people coming into town and raising problems
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as well, and it was just a weird time. This song,
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the last one you just heard, actually wrote that during
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the riots, so I could hear helicopters flying over my
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house and all that was going on. My family actually
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went out of town just to get away, and I
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stayed back and wrote that song while that was going on.
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And that's really what that's about. And Andrew played some
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amazing stuff. That harmonica on there is fantastic mandolin guitar.
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He kind of does it all. So I'm glad I
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was finally able to put that one out. That one's
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from twenty twenty. Just been kind of sitting on it
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and really proud of it. And it kind of came
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from a honest and strange place and one that I
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definitely won't forget. So that was slowly then faster with
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Andrew Hira and Jim Soul. This next one, jeez, I
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need a running order in front of me. What kind
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of operation is this? Edge of Town is up next?
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Also featuring Andrew Hyra doing all those wonderful Andrew Hyra things,
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including Ebo.
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This one's called edge of Town.
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Darkness on the edge of town. When you have what
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you wanted bonus never enough, then what is.
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Love to is my mind?
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Ain't it funny? All the lies that we tell ourselves.
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It's quite on the edge of town can't seem to
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pass the storm inside your head.
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You know it's what you chase saying, but it's never
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far enough to run yourself.
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The friends you had all been lost, You arth they.
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Were heading a last seen all the dusty road, and
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I believe in love truths have the too.
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Darkness on the edge down last two months gone right
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before your rise. You never know what is wrong. Nothing
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makes sense well to sweet this guy's the friends you've.
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Had have all been lost steal and if they were
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here at all, last seeing on the dusty road, be
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even long lies that they too. The friends you've had
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all been lost, You.
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Arf they were.
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Sea steer road.
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It's edge of Town with Andrew Hira.
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That one was written probably that might have been twenty nineteen,
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even twenty nineteen, twenty twenty somewhere in there.
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Later on twenty nineteen, I think, but.
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We live in a weird, divisive time, and that one's
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about growing up in a place that does not share
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your views and values and slowly watching your old friends
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uh kind of branch off and suddenly disappear.
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And you know, as life goes on.
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It's interesting. I think when you're younger, you're really like,
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you want to hold on, right, you don't you want
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everybody to like it. You want to hold on, and uh,
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you know, I think as people we all want that
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even later as time goes on. But I think you
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start to understand too at times where relationships kind of
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run their course. At times, sometimes people are put in
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your life during certain times for certain reasons. I truly
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believe that. I don't know what that is exactly, but
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I I feel that and I've and I've noticed that
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throughout my life as well. But yeah, there's there's certain
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times where things are just broken. And uh, if you
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if you're looking at things completely different from a values
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morals standpoint, you know, I wish you nothing but the best,
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But I'm gonna I'm gonna go this direction, and and
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that song's about that and about other people go in
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the other direction on me as well. So uh, that
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was Edge of Town. I'm a big fan of that song,
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so thanks to Andrew for that. This next one's Jim
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Soul unbacking vocals. It's called playing tricks again.
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Maybe someday seeing the world through someone's side.
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Sometimes if heels like key, then Nancy's your heart playing
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tricks again.
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Some days are trying to hold onto that old fire.
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Sometimes appeals is good enough, but that's just true.
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You'll call in love, go on to leave.
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When you're making friends with the ghost is what you
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fear the most is seeing your.
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Mind gotta leave it all behind.
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Maybe someday I'll understand. Don't you want to impress?
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Don't give a damn.
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Sometimes you feel like giving it, but that's just your
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mind laying tricks again.
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Sometimes it seems all so clear, so motionous, keep enough
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to fear.
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Sometimes it seems so enriched, but that's just your mind
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laying tricks again.
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Gold on to the oath.
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When you're making friends with the ghosts, because once you
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fear the most, it's.
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In your mind.
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You gotta leave it all behind.
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Jim Soul, I love me some Jim Soul.
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Who doesn't love some good Jim Soul Jim's been in
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High on Stress for most of the band's life. He's
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been on every record other than Moonlight Girls. He's been
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doing great things. He also does solo stuff. Go check
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out his record. You can find it streaming. Jim sol
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solo record. He covered one of my songs, one of
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my unreleased songs. So thanks Jim.
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That's on there.
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And he even let me play bass on a song.
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I didn't even have to strong arm him too much,
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but it was an honor to play his record, and
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I thank him for playing on this solo Shenanigans. This
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next song we're making our way through. I've been thinking
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what do I like best? What are the songs that
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I like best on this record? Cold Wins is one
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of them, which you heard earlier, featuring Kevin Salem and
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Dan Murphy.
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Edge of Towns up there for me. This is another
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one of them.
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It's called The Valley. It was written in December. A
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lot of these songs were written between the some slightly
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before Hold Me In came out up until this December.
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And it's.
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I think we've lost something as a society. We've you know,
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cheering on death without forgetting what that means. Who's impacted
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by death and cheering that on publicly. It Yeah, it's
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doesn't sit right with me. I don't love it, and
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I just think we are living in those the aforementioned
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device of times, and I wish we weren't. It's the
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strangest time I've seen. But this song is kind of
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about what's going on in the world, people cheering on
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death for whatever reason. And I got Dan Murphy on
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this one as well. He actually appeared with me. We
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played this thing called Morningside after Dark that was put
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together by the late great Lorie Linden from Zuzu's Pedals.
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I've talked about her on here as well, but she's
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from Zuzu's Pedals. She's an author of the book Pedal Pusher.
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She sang backing vocals on which this moment gone on
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the High End Stress record, which was the first single
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on Hold Me In. And she was just a fantastic person,
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a great supporter of our band, and which was quite
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an honor for us because just just a brilliant person, magnetic,
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great person. And she passed away last summer. It's been
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a weird ten months, a lot of loss in so
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many different ways. But she passed away and there was
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a tribute show at Morningside after Dark. It was a
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series she put together of writers, poets, singers, like all
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sorts of stuff. And last time I played there, I
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did wish this moment gone. And she's sang backing with vocals.
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This time we were doing a tribute episode, tribute show
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of her old morning Side after Dark, and Dan came
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up and played guitar on the song with me and
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also played it on the record. So this is one
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of my favorites and quent honor to have Dan Murphy
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had been a fan of Dan since I was literally
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in high school. Don't tell him, but I had to
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give my Soul Asylum shirt to my son so I
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wouldn't accidentally wear it around him. True story, Dan, if
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you're listening, I had to give that shirt away. It
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would have been too awkward for you to show up.
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And I'm wearing this shirt so my son now owns
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it to good hands. This next one's called the Valley.
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Everyone has lost their minds. Everyone has so much to
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say with words you can't take back. When they leave
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the station, then along down the tracks, let it go.
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Word just flow down from the Valley.
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Below everyone just finds inne of me realord imagine they cancious.
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Let it be, knowing what everybody is. I was thinking,
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turn it off, tune it out.
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It's driving. I am to drinking.
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Let it go.
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Versus flow the down from the valley glow? Which way
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is the direction? Now? The road is already made? How
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do we fix what is broken? How did we get
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here in the first place?
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Let it go?
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Words flow down from the valley blow, Let it go,
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Urges flow down from.
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The valley glow. Everyone has lost their.
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Mind, walking along, handful of saying, headphones on, trying to
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see what I can stand?
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Went through the trees, forgotten cold. It's the longest my.
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On the quietest road, chest fold, the sparse, forgotten name.
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Ain't it just?
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He can me.
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To be somewhere else again? But there is no con
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trump this side. No, it's life, slide of hand, trying
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to see what we can stand?
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How high is high?
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How?
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How far come? How far can go?
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Same life? Wait? Until far?
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How fuck?
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How high is high?
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Hell is?
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How far have you come?
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How far can we go? Sa? Hi?
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The wind?
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How far have you come?
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How fun can be? One thing.
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That was night walker featuring me playing some weird Phil
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Collins keyboards. Yeah, that's right, and.
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My daughter Mary leak Ton backing vocals.
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It's she's a gymnast who sings and then sings more
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and then sings even more than that. She's I was singing,
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and I put her to work, put her in front
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of the mic and said, we need some backing vocals.
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Let's do this.
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Last week, that song actually got radio play in Virginia,
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which was kind of cool because that was her first
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time on the radio and she was super excited about it,
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and so really fun to be able to work with
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my daughter on that song and put some Phil Collins
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keyboards on it. And also just a note, Henry Leet,
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my son, did the album art for this as well,
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so it was a family affair. I should have had
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my wife play the kazoo. I don't know what I
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was thinking. Next time around, she will play the kazoo.
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But that was night Walker. Not much to say on
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that other than back back when I was a teenager,
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I would go for these walks in my small town
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from one end to the other. It's about a mile long,
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and I've referenced this town in many different ways on
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many different songs. If you listen to our music Memorial
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Day from like the coplit parade talks about the town,
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it shows up a lot as most people who write
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songs kind of drawback from where they came from and
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where they were raised and things that went on at
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that time.
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And so Surrey, North Dakota gets a lot of.
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Love from a songwriting standpoint, and that's what I'm singing
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about here.
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But I used to go for these walks.
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I'd put on put on my headphones, get some sunflower
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seeds and walk at night from one side of the
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town to the other. It's about a mile long, this
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entire town, about a thousand people, tiny, tiny place that
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I grew up and just have these fond memories of
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listening to the music that I loved. And I'm really
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thinking of it. What were some of the things I
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was listening to back then? Well, first of all, a
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lot of podcast guests, to be honest, That's kind of
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the beauty of this thing is I've been able to
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talk to a lot of these people that I've been
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fond of their work for years. But in the headphones
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back then, there was a lot of all shout out
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to Scott Reynolds there, who is a podcast guest. Knapsack
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was being played a lot. Shout out to Blair and
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Surgery there. I don't listen that much anymore. It's just
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a little too hyper but less than Jake Hell a
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rock review album. Not quite my cup of tea these days.
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But I think I've got too much going on in
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my head to listen to all those horns. But Stephen
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Bradley did that record. He was my first guest on
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this podcast, so kind of neat. So it all kind
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of ties together because these are some of the if
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you look back on the guests on the show, a
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lot of that's a lot of what I was listening
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to on these walks that I would take kind of
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by myself in the middle of the night, and I
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were talking about it. So that was night Walker featuring
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Mary Leet of my daughter Fame. This next one is
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also one of my favorites and probably the least like
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any song I've ever released. It's called Take two, and
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it's called Take two because back in I don't know,
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must have been twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I started putting
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the recording studio together, and I put it together as
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a Demo Studio. High End Stress is recorded.
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With a lot of great in a lot of great
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studios over the years.
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OBT.
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That was the first three records.
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Moonlight Girls, cop By Parade, and Living Is a Dying
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Art were all recorded there. Recorded three my old band
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reference Standard Thompson. We did three albums at O'll Bet
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back in the day as well with John Tranbury who
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was the original High End Stress bass player and played
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on Moonlight Curls.
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And then we did.
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Leaving Minneapolis at the Sound Gallery in Minneapolis which is
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no longer there sorry, by target Field, scariest fire escape
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you'll ever stand on. And then we did Hold Me
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In at guitar Player Chad Studio Triple T. And Chad
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has become an amazing not only an amazing guitar player
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but and friend, hey Chad, but also an amazing recording engineer.
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So he's.
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He recorded Hold Me In, He's recorded a lot of
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great stuff, and quite honestly, we're working on this new
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High End Stress record, and because I wanted.
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To learn more and more, I've been sitting behind him.
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Awfully close, very very close Chad to watch what he
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was doing as he was engineering a high end Stress
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record because I wanted to learn. I wanted to get
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better at this. So originally it started out is I
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don't care it'll sound decent because I've got some decent gear.
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But it's simon on.
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I'm like, I want to get better at this. So
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I really shout out to Chad for allowing me to
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stare over his shoulder and giving me tips, and really,
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you know, he isn't on this record, but his spirit
508
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.880
is there on the recording side, even selling me one
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of his microphones.
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So shout out to Chad.
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This next one, take two, is originally one of those
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demos that was recorded when I didn't know what I
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was doing, and it was kind of weird. It was
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an example just kind of a trying it out, sampling
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it out and see what I can do with it,
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and it ended up kind of cool, and I sat
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on it for years, and then Andrew Hira heard it
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and really liked it. And it's funny because it sounds
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00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.199
nothing like High on Stress. It sounds nothing like Billy Pilgrim.
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00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.960
But it turned out kind of cool, and I wanted
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to get it out because I think it's an interesting song.
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So shout out to Andrew on this. He played a
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whole bunch of stuff, and this one's called take two.
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Take it from me, Take it from me, because I'm
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taking notes that if you want something, you better start
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letting me know.
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Call my blood.
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For some.
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And you solf comfort.
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You don't my letting the show. But if I wanted
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joey advice, I would let you know.
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Way someone called my blo. I've been way someone to sappen.
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You had a change.
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To give me ground control, but chin had no sweet
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Just let it go.
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Skipp me ground control, Skip me ground control.
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I'm not here.
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Smoking around in dusty shoes. Better leave me where I
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am just hanging on. I was born to soon running
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circles in my room.
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Better leave me where I am just hanging a.
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Curse on.
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Swe freeze.
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I'm gone.
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Lost one slowly road, feeling you no longer hole. I
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guess it's won't bring you back home.
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Feeling someone lucky the cold diamond Kentucky with.
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My on five.
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It's slowly the wild.
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The fact as snow knows me like to the fact
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its snow, one knows me lack to.
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You're the only one that's made it clear. Good time
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has come back, gone and June no longer.
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Not Here to Lose, not Here to Lose.
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It's it's I've been I've been writing songs for a
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really long time, and uh, I have a tendency to
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go towards the first person and what I'm experiencing at
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a given point, and I still do that.
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I also report what I see and.
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Then sometimes in the case of this, this is more
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and less about me and more about.
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What I'm observing with other people.
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So don't worry about me on this one, ladies and gentlemen.
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00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.800
But this song is called not Here to Lose, and
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where that came from from a song standpoint, it's not
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about the situation specifically. But Jeffrey Brower, he's a He's
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00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.400
a High End Stress fan out of Atlanta, Georgia, and
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00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.559
posts videos of himself playing guitar and his porch playing Dakota,
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the High on Stress song. So I love that and
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00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.119
he should keep doing that because it always makes me smile.
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00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.559
But he came out to see Jim and I play
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00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.920
when we went down to Atlanta for that Duoh show
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along with with Andrew Hyra and Christian Bush from Billy Pilgrim,
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and he was at those shows or one of the shows,
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00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:56.159
and he was going through it last year. He had
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00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.360
some family stuff going on that was pretty rough, and
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he was kind of reporting on it social media wise,
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00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.039
and he always said, not here to lose, We're not
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here to lose, as they were fighting through some things.
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And I was inspired by that to write a song
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because I love that not here to lose. I've it's
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00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.320
been a weird year, to say the least. I've I've
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00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:23.159
lost five friends, and not not due to politics well
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00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.639
that too, but lost five friends who passed on since
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00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:33.400
she's I think July, and I can't say that's ever
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00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.599
been the case of my life up until this point.
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And I'm sure as time goes on it happens more
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00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.840
and more and more because that's what happens. But kind
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00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.559
of hard to take. Lost my job last year too,
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right around when all this started to happen, just due
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00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.280
to weird economies that seem to be getting weirder? Am
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I right?
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Who's with me?
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Jesus?
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Well?
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Weird times it was.
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It was not good and uh, and this record has
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00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.079
really helped a lot with that. I spent a lot
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of time last summer writing and adding and redoing vocals
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and remixing and all sorts of stuff, and it really
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00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:17.519
taught me. It really taught me to focus and be
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00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.880
able to do things on your own. I think is key.
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And if you think he can't do something, see if
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he can do it. I never thought I would be
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able to put a record together that I recorded on
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my own with some guests. Of course, we've the guests
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00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.480
who appeared did some recording and engineering too, but a
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majority of the record is recorded at my studio that.
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I learned how to use.
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Finally, and.
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Weird here, Weird Year for everybody. Weird Year. Shout out.
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Shout out to my friend down there at Atlanta. He
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bought me a piece of pizza the next day after
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the show too, So forever friends. Anybody who buys me
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00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:03.400
a slice pizza if I'm in town, we're friends of forever.
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Speaking of friends forever. On that track, Brent Brann appears.
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I've known Brent since I was fifteen years old. He
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was the guy who would be like, your band needs
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to record, your band needs an album, your band needs
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a music video, your band needs to move to Minneapolis.
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He's the biggest supporter non related in my life since
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I was fifteen years old and I say non related,
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but in reality we are related. I've told him we
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are family at this point, and he stuck with me
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00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.079
and he appears on a piano and organ on that
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song and did a great job and recorded some songs
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on guitar and bass on some of his records. We've
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worked on some songs recently.
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I hope to do more. I love that guy.
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He's one of my favorite people ever and it's cool
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that he's on this And the song got played on
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the radio the other day, So shout out to Brent,
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00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.079
Shout out to the radio. I hope more people will
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spin the record and yeah and infinale. We've got one
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00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.159
more song left that I'm going to tee up here.
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But thank you for listening to this. Hope you'll like
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the record, Hope you'll pick it up. Shout out to
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00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.199
my bandmates Jim soul, Mark Deverage and Chad Wheeling for
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the support here. We'll work on that high on Stress record.
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And I appreciate the fact that they they gave me
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some room to explore this space. I know that you
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00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.880
always hear those band stories of like no side projects,
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no nothing. We don't operate like that. Jim's got a
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solo records that he does, Chad Records bands, Marks in
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five bands here in Minneapolis. I think we're probably the
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Count of Five. And you know, no hard feelings by anybody,
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and that's cool, and I appreciate their support through this
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00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.199
because this was definitely a project to keep me on
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00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.400
the path through all the weird shit that happened last year.
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So this last song once again brings us back to
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00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.039
certain North Dakota and it's called Goodbye Gravel Roads.
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00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:07.159
And I co wrote this with Andrew.
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I wrote the main guitar part in like the first verse,
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and I think chorus must have been right around the
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same time I wrote gold Star on Moonlight Girls, our
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first High on Stress record, And this was also written
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around the time of Dakota, which was on Hold Me.
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00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.280
And so some of these songs have just kind of
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made their way back and are released. And I never
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00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.639
finished this one. I just had that verse and chorus
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00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.840
had kind of the weird guitar part, and I sent
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00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.360
it to Andrew. This was probably twenty nineteen as well,
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and said, can you do anything with this because I've
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got this part and this part and then maybe this
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part go at it and I was in San Francisco,
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00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:47.960
and I said a hotel room in San Francisco, and
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00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:51.559
I got a text from him that says, check your email,
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00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:57.280
and I checked it, and holy shit, dude ran with
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00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.320
it in the best possible ways and it sounds really cool.
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He had his friend Steve Fontaine contribute as well, did
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bass and programming stuff, and he mixed U when I
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00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.280
mix the record, but he mixed this song specifically, So
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cred to Steve out in Palm Desert, California. Steve has
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worked with Andrew a lot on his solo stuff, production
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wise and playing on it. And he's also done remixes
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for David Bowie, Aerosmith, Madonna, and Kesha and a whole
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bunch of other people, which is kind of awesomely weird.
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So way on the bottom of his resume, if you
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look with a magnifying glass, you will see Nick Lee Detours.
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Thank you, Steve, and this is the last track on
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the record. It's coming out next Friday on band camp.
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You can download it. You can check it out. CD
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is coming soon limited runs. You can do pre orders
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of CDs. I would love it if you'd buy a
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physical copy because my son Henry did the artwork. Come on, man,
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you gotta support the kid. Come on, what are you
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00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.719
thinking anyway? Thank you for listening to this episode of
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the Figure Eights podcast where we did a little uh
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listening for the new solo album Detours. This is the
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last track, Goodbye gravel Roads.
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Forget the feeling you were born in the wrong place
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on these old dusty roads. Road mad Bess, leave me.
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00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:40.239
Away from this disgrace to a new zip code. I've
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been always so long, Just wanna again. I'm gone, goodbye
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gravel rope.
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So now fin and myself I didn't live, man again
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on the lost side town sliding now.
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With down.
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00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:23.440
I've been away so long, just one lookin.
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I'm gone, good bye gravel Roots.
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00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:49.840
I'm out there on the edge of it now, out
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there with the distant storm clouds.
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Were lighting and Bazin's way to the ground. I'm out
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00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.360
there on the edge of it now.
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01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:04.760
They're on the.
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01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:10.440
Edge of it now, and they're with the distance of
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clouds were lightning.
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01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:18.239
It finds us way in the ground. I'm out there
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01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:23.880
on the edge of it now. They're on the edge
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01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:24.559
of it now.
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01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:33.679
And every day waking up trying to keep your head up,
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01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:40.760
let's low things down, the grounding in your coffee cup,
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01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000
trying to keep from giving up in.
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01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:51.800
This post office town. All along you chase these grad
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little room.
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Haunting.
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They're on the edge of it now, they're on the.
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Humping down, on.
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The show it.
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Now forget the feeling you were born in the wrong place. Home,
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these old dusty roads,
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You are listening to the figure Outs podcast.
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I'm your host, Nick Leet from the band High On
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Stress out of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and this is a different episode.
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We do not have a guest today. I'm usually interviewing someone.
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That's super sweet, but today we are going to preview
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my new solo record, Detours.
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Which is coming out this Friday, May second.
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It will be available on the band camp to High
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End Stress band Camp and it will also have subscens
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coming out to those are big manufacturers seeking pre order
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of those. They are almost done, so shipping shouldn't be
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too far after release.
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And hope you'll check it out. I hope you will
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give it a listen and maybe pick up a copy.
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All the support is appreciating on a High on Stress front.
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The album continues to be record. We're hoping for a
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late twenty twenty five release and that's the official follow
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up to twenty twenties Hold Me In and then other
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High on Stress news. We are hitting the road Friday
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Dope by Led Thursday May first, debukee Iowa at the
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Lift Friday May second at Montrose Saloon in Chicago, Illinois
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as part of the International Pops Overthrow festival. I was
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a good time, great bands, great crowds, and it kind
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of rules. And then Saturday we are going to be
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playing at the Law Office Lub in Yorkville with the
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Strug Center pal Matt Dirda in the Hiowan. So all
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kinds of high end stress shenanigans about to kick off
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here as well as the solo Detour's elbow soap. Thank
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you for your patients. It's been a long long time since.
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We've released the music, and now we've got the solo.
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Record coming out and followed by the high on.
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Stress record as soon as we get that done. So
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thank you for your patience through all that. Without further ado,
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I bring you.
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Detours.
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He's to the rising sun. Leave me We're alive. Don't
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expect too munch plan of my next move inside of.
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My control Biston holder, cold sun coming around the game.
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Let me take you there on the colder stairs back
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where we push mean susher for a piece of mind.
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We were too young at five, was.
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Trying to get to staxt.
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Cold windside color around again, the.
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Cold windside color around.
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In the way we cut the man into blanket stars.
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In the words shoes shoes could.
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But stand from kid Win noos in the.
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Backs of bars and I'm so whim pressed but attached
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to what should think.
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Been next.
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As you dude.
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Cold Wins.
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That is the first song off of Detours. I've got
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some guests on that. Kevin Salem is playing guitar. Also
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a game of co write on that.
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Quite honestly, like that guitar part that he put on
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that thing.
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Come on, I made that song go so big props
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to Kevin Salem for playing guitar on that, and uh,
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Dan Murphy also played guitar and backing vocals on that.
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Dan of Soul Asylum and Golden Smog and his great
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new band of Scarlet Goodbye Fame.
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That was quite the honor.
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I'm I've been a big fan of Kevin Salem's work
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now for quite a few years. At this point I
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was late to the game, but it's I love his albums.
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All of them are really good. He's played with a
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lot of people as well, like he does a lot
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of studio work, Sideman work. He's played with Freddy Johnston,
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Yola Tango and he was a Dump Truck and played
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with Rachel Yamagatta Masters, the Mike Doughty records.
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Like He's oh and Matthew Ryan. I'm a big Matthew
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Ryan guy.
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He actually worked on the Boxers record with Matthew Ryan
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and played on one of my favorite Matthew Ryan songs.
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And then she threw me like a hand grenade. Check
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out that song. It's freaking great. But Kevin Salem like
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minded dude. Love the way he views the world. I
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love his guitar playing.
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Oh my gosh.
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When he sent me that track, I was like, I
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was in Soma City Heaven. And if you're a fan
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of Kevin you know that that's his Soma City was
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his debut record back in the nineties. He was so
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freaking cool, so really cool to have Kevin on this.
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Dan contributed as well with guitar and backing vocals.
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He played some super cool stuff.
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He's a great dude, obviously, Minneapolis legend over here in
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the Twin Cities, and quite an honor to have him
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jump on on the record and lay down some cool
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parts and some great backing vocals. So that was Cold
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Winds Up next is remember their names. The song doesn't
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need much in terms of prepping. It kind of speaks
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for itself.
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Wheneverything is said and done, it will still be right
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and wrong and.
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Disasters head it's ted.
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Found it on the backs of others against We're finally
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showing our cous country that is lost.
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It's weird, we're remade bad name.
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The competing since Nickol's division and blood of boy.
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You know what trade is?
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I was gonna trade.
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When everything stood and ash nothing was built to last.
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Weeding fool the youth do have it's we will remain.
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Name.
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When everything is said and done, there will still be
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right and wrong.
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After disaster's head, it's died. After disaster's head. It's after disaster's.
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Head is to how did we get here?
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That slowly roading like the years in our lives and
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the bars on the flag.
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We'd like to think we had no way and no one,
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But slowly and faster we gave it all.
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You couldn't get ad attack, quel challenge, you can get busy.
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We'll continue to cry, judging people buy the color of
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the skim.
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Slowly then faster people.
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Uh time, Maybe we all had it color. It's clear
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now as nothing to do.
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With barely.
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We gave it away.
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The only way forward is through.
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Now is the time for decisions. We shake where it's
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on fire. We stir our phones because it's hard to
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be alone. Slowly then faster.
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Walking.
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While me we are coming.
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It's clear now there's nothing to do with barely word.
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We gave him away.
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The only way forward is true, maybe way ouside coming.
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It's clear now there's nothing to do.
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With very word.
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We gave him the only way fo It's true.
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That was remember their names.
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With Jim Sol on backing vocals, followed by slowly then faster,
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which also has Jim sol this time on bass guitar.
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And then my good friend Andrew Hira, he of Billy
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Pilgrim and Smoking Nova's and solo fame. If you've been
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following high End Stress for the last handful of years,
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you probably have heard me shouting from the rooftops the
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magic and wizardry that is Andrew Hyra.
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Andrew was in a band and is in a band
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called Billy Pilgrim.
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There were in Atlantic Records in the nineties and my
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first band, Standard Thompson. Our first show in Surre, North Dakota,
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at our high school. We were playing some three chord
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yelling punk rock stuff and we didn't have enough songs,
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so singer Mike Jelden and I sat down Who's Now
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in Dakota Shakedown. You probably have listened to that episode
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of the podcast as well. But we sat down and
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did a handful of acoustic songs just to kind of
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open for ourselves, to make the show longer. And one
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of the songs that we had played was this song.
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There was a I think it was called Current Visions
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and you could buy the CD at Target and it
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was like a record label compilation that had the Jayhawks.
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I think Blue was on there, which is amazing. Obviously
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the Goo Goo Dolls were on there. I think Reverend
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Horton heat. I don't have it in front of.
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Me, but Billy Pilgrim is on there.
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And Mike and I heard sweet Louisiana Sound and we
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were both like, the song is really really damn cool.
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So we learned it. We played it at our first
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ever show and years later.
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You know, I go down to Ottaw, Illinois to play
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shows there often usually solo acoustics style stuff, and my
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friend Dave, who runs the Songwriter series, I was telling
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me about this this great musician that was coming named
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Andrew Hira, and I'm like, okay, yeah, that's cool.
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What's that like?
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And he's like, he was in this band called Billy Pilgrim,
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and I was like, wait, wait, wait what? And so
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thanks to Dave for making the introduction there. But it's
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become kind of a mutual admiration society. Andrew likes the
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high end stress stuff and I've obviously loved Andrew's stuff for.
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A very long time. Didn't even realize his name.
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I just knew Billy Pilgrim, and you know, he and
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Christian Bush are Billy Pilgrim. Christian Bush went on to
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start the country super stardom act Sugarland.
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Also quite a nice guy.
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But Andrew Poultz co wrote never got that far and
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saying on it on the last High on Strus record,
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hold Me and and around that point we were doing
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more and more writing and collaborations, just really having a
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good time with it and you know it. Some points
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we talked about doing an EP and ended up playing
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some shows and Jim and I Jim Soul and I
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from Hyan Stress also we went down to Atlanta and
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played some shows with Christian and Andrew and Matthew Taylor.
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Who's something you got to check him out to.
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But it's just amazing, amazing, amazing musicianship out of those
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two cats tell you what just watching them work on
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new songs together face to face, you know, sitting on
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the couch with guitars.
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There is some magic to what Andrew and Christian do.
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are great songs, and this is some amazing singing. When
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you are in a room with that, it is a
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freight train. I can't even describe just the level of
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skill emotion. I've heard Andrew described as singing with his
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whole his whole body. That is a thing.
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He's just a brilliant, brilliant singer guy, also very like minded,
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which I can appreciate these weird times and really glad
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to know them. And on that song, slowly than faster,
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it's kind of a weird time. You might recall I
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live in the Twin Cities and in twenty twenty we
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were going through a pandemic. I don't think you've forgotten
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that bit, and George Floyd was murdered, which was horrifying
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and terrible, and the city was in a loss for words,
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to say the least. And the policeman who killed him
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is now in jail, and during this time, there were
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riots and protests and all sorts of things going on,
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and you know, there were tanks going down the street,
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and there were people coming into town and raising problems
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as well, and it was just a weird time. This song,
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the last one you just heard, actually wrote that during
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the riots, so I could hear helicopters flying over my
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house and all that was going on. My family actually
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went out of town just to get away, and I
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stayed back and wrote that song while that was going on.
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And that's really what that's about. And Andrew played some
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amazing stuff. That harmonica on there is fantastic mandolin guitar.
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He kind of does it all. So I'm glad I
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was finally able to put that one out. That one's
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from twenty twenty. Just been kind of sitting on it
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and really proud of it. And it kind of came
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from a honest and strange place and one that I
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definitely won't forget. So that was slowly then faster with
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Andrew Hira and Jim Soul. This next one, jeez, I
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need a running order in front of me. What kind
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of operation is this? Edge of Town is up next?
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Also featuring Andrew Hyra doing all those wonderful Andrew Hyra things,
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including Ebo.
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This one's called edge of Town.
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Darkness on the edge of town. When you have what
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you wanted bonus never enough, then what is.
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Love to is my mind?
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Ain't it funny? All the lies that we tell ourselves.
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It's quite on the edge of town can't seem to
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pass the storm inside your head.
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You know it's what you chase saying, but it's never
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far enough to run yourself.
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The friends you had all been lost, You arth they.
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Were heading a last seen all the dusty road, and
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I believe in love truths have the too.
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Darkness on the edge down last two months gone right
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before your rise. You never know what is wrong. Nothing
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makes sense well to sweet this guy's the friends you've.
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Had have all been lost steal and if they were
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here at all, last seeing on the dusty road, be
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even long lies that they too. The friends you've had
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all been lost, You.
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Arf they were.
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Sea steer road.
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It's edge of Town with Andrew Hira.
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That one was written probably that might have been twenty nineteen,
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even twenty nineteen, twenty twenty somewhere in there.
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Later on twenty nineteen, I think, but.
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We live in a weird, divisive time, and that one's
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about growing up in a place that does not share
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your views and values and slowly watching your old friends
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uh kind of branch off and suddenly disappear.
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And you know, as life goes on.
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It's interesting. I think when you're younger, you're really like,
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you want to hold on, right, you don't you want
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everybody to like it. You want to hold on, and uh,
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you know, I think as people we all want that
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even later as time goes on. But I think you
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start to understand too at times where relationships kind of
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run their course. At times, sometimes people are put in
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your life during certain times for certain reasons. I truly
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believe that. I don't know what that is exactly, but
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I I feel that and I've and I've noticed that
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throughout my life as well. But yeah, there's there's certain
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times where things are just broken. And uh, if you
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if you're looking at things completely different from a values
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morals standpoint, you know, I wish you nothing but the best,
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But I'm gonna I'm gonna go this direction, and and
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that song's about that and about other people go in
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the other direction on me as well. So uh, that
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was Edge of Town. I'm a big fan of that song,
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so thanks to Andrew for that. This next one's Jim
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Soul unbacking vocals. It's called playing tricks again.
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Maybe someday seeing the world through someone's side.
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Sometimes if heels like key, then Nancy's your heart playing
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tricks again.
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Some days are trying to hold onto that old fire.
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Sometimes appeals is good enough, but that's just true.
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You'll call in love, go on to leave.
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When you're making friends with the ghost is what you
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fear the most is seeing your.
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Mind gotta leave it all behind.
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Maybe someday I'll understand. Don't you want to impress?
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Don't give a damn.
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Sometimes you feel like giving it, but that's just your
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mind laying tricks again.
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Sometimes it seems all so clear, so motionous, keep enough
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to fear.
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Sometimes it seems so enriched, but that's just your mind
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laying tricks again.
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Gold on to the oath.
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When you're making friends with the ghosts, because once you
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fear the most, it's.
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In your mind.
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You gotta leave it all behind.
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Jim Soul, I love me some Jim Soul.
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Who doesn't love some good Jim Soul Jim's been in
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High on Stress for most of the band's life. He's
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been on every record other than Moonlight Girls. He's been
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doing great things. He also does solo stuff. Go check
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out his record. You can find it streaming. Jim sol
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solo record. He covered one of my songs, one of
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my unreleased songs. So thanks Jim.
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That's on there.
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And he even let me play bass on a song.
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I didn't even have to strong arm him too much,
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but it was an honor to play his record, and
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I thank him for playing on this solo Shenanigans. This
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next song we're making our way through. I've been thinking
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what do I like best? What are the songs that
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I like best on this record? Cold Wins is one
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of them, which you heard earlier, featuring Kevin Salem and
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Dan Murphy.
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Edge of Towns up there for me. This is another
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one of them.
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It's called The Valley. It was written in December. A
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lot of these songs were written between the some slightly
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before Hold Me In came out up until this December.
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And it's.
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I think we've lost something as a society. We've you know,
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cheering on death without forgetting what that means. Who's impacted
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by death and cheering that on publicly. It Yeah, it's
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doesn't sit right with me. I don't love it, and
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I just think we are living in those the aforementioned
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device of times, and I wish we weren't. It's the
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strangest time I've seen. But this song is kind of
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about what's going on in the world, people cheering on
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death for whatever reason. And I got Dan Murphy on
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this one as well. He actually appeared with me. We
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played this thing called Morningside after Dark that was put
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together by the late great Lorie Linden from Zuzu's Pedals.
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I've talked about her on here as well, but she's
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from Zuzu's Pedals. She's an author of the book Pedal Pusher.
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She sang backing vocals on which this moment gone on
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the High End Stress record, which was the first single
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on Hold Me In. And she was just a fantastic person,
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a great supporter of our band, and which was quite
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an honor for us because just just a brilliant person, magnetic,
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great person. And she passed away last summer. It's been
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a weird ten months, a lot of loss in so
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many different ways. But she passed away and there was
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a tribute show at Morningside after Dark. It was a
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series she put together of writers, poets, singers, like all
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sorts of stuff. And last time I played there, I
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did wish this moment gone. And she's sang backing with vocals.
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This time we were doing a tribute episode, tribute show
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of her old morning Side after Dark, and Dan came
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up and played guitar on the song with me and
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also played it on the record. So this is one
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of my favorites and quent honor to have Dan Murphy
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had been a fan of Dan since I was literally
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in high school. Don't tell him, but I had to
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give my Soul Asylum shirt to my son so I
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wouldn't accidentally wear it around him. True story, Dan, if
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you're listening, I had to give that shirt away. It
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would have been too awkward for you to show up.
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And I'm wearing this shirt so my son now owns
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it to good hands. This next one's called the Valley.
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Everyone has lost their minds. Everyone has so much to
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say with words you can't take back. When they leave
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the station, then along down the tracks, let it go.
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Word just flow down from the Valley.
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Below everyone just finds inne of me realord imagine they cancious.
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Let it be, knowing what everybody is. I was thinking,
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turn it off, tune it out.
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It's driving. I am to drinking.
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Let it go.
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Versus flow the down from the valley glow? Which way
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is the direction? Now? The road is already made? How
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do we fix what is broken? How did we get
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here in the first place?
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Let it go?
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Words flow down from the valley blow, Let it go,
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Urges flow down from.
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The valley glow. Everyone has lost their.
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Mind, walking along, handful of saying, headphones on, trying to
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see what I can stand?
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Went through the trees, forgotten cold. It's the longest my.
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On the quietest road, chest fold, the sparse, forgotten name.
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Ain't it just?
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He can me.
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To be somewhere else again? But there is no con
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trump this side. No, it's life, slide of hand, trying
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to see what we can stand?
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How high is high?
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How?
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How far come? How far can go?
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Same life? Wait? Until far?
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How fuck?
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How high is high?
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Hell is?
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How far have you come?
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How far can we go? Sa? Hi?
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The wind?
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How far have you come?
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How fun can be? One thing.
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That was night walker featuring me playing some weird Phil
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Collins keyboards. Yeah, that's right, and.
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My daughter Mary leak Ton backing vocals.
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It's she's a gymnast who sings and then sings more
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and then sings even more than that. She's I was singing,
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and I put her to work, put her in front
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of the mic and said, we need some backing vocals.
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Let's do this.
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Last week, that song actually got radio play in Virginia,
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which was kind of cool because that was her first
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time on the radio and she was super excited about it,
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and so really fun to be able to work with
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my daughter on that song and put some Phil Collins
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keyboards on it. And also just a note, Henry Leet,
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my son, did the album art for this as well,
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so it was a family affair. I should have had
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my wife play the kazoo. I don't know what I
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was thinking. Next time around, she will play the kazoo.
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But that was night Walker. Not much to say on
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that other than back back when I was a teenager,
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I would go for these walks in my small town
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from one end to the other. It's about a mile long,
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and I've referenced this town in many different ways on
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many different songs. If you listen to our music Memorial
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Day from like the coplit parade talks about the town,
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it shows up a lot as most people who write
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songs kind of drawback from where they came from and
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where they were raised and things that went on at
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that time.
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And so Surrey, North Dakota gets a lot of.
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Love from a songwriting standpoint, and that's what I'm singing
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about here.
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But I used to go for these walks.
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I'd put on put on my headphones, get some sunflower
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seeds and walk at night from one side of the
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town to the other. It's about a mile long, this
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entire town, about a thousand people, tiny, tiny place that
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I grew up and just have these fond memories of
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listening to the music that I loved. And I'm really
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thinking of it. What were some of the things I
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was listening to back then? Well, first of all, a
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lot of podcast guests, to be honest, That's kind of
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the beauty of this thing is I've been able to
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talk to a lot of these people that I've been
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fond of their work for years. But in the headphones
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back then, there was a lot of all shout out
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to Scott Reynolds there, who is a podcast guest. Knapsack
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was being played a lot. Shout out to Blair and
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Surgery there. I don't listen that much anymore. It's just
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a little too hyper but less than Jake Hell a
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rock review album. Not quite my cup of tea these days.
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But I think I've got too much going on in
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my head to listen to all those horns. But Stephen
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Bradley did that record. He was my first guest on
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this podcast, so kind of neat. So it all kind
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of ties together because these are some of the if
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you look back on the guests on the show, a
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lot of that's a lot of what I was listening
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to on these walks that I would take kind of
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by myself in the middle of the night, and I
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were talking about it. So that was night Walker featuring
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Mary Leet of my daughter Fame. This next one is
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also one of my favorites and probably the least like
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any song I've ever released. It's called Take two, and
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it's called Take two because back in I don't know,
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must have been twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I started putting
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the recording studio together, and I put it together as
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a Demo Studio. High End Stress is recorded.
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With a lot of great in a lot of great
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studios over the years.
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OBT.
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That was the first three records.
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Moonlight Girls, cop By Parade, and Living Is a Dying
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Art were all recorded there. Recorded three my old band
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reference Standard Thompson. We did three albums at O'll Bet
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back in the day as well with John Tranbury who
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was the original High End Stress bass player and played
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on Moonlight Curls.
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And then we did.
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Leaving Minneapolis at the Sound Gallery in Minneapolis which is
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no longer there sorry, by target Field, scariest fire escape
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you'll ever stand on. And then we did Hold Me
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In at guitar Player Chad Studio Triple T. And Chad
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has become an amazing not only an amazing guitar player
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but and friend, hey Chad, but also an amazing recording engineer.
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So he's.
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He recorded Hold Me In, He's recorded a lot of
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great stuff, and quite honestly, we're working on this new
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High End Stress record, and because I wanted.
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To learn more and more, I've been sitting behind him.
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Awfully close, very very close Chad to watch what he
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was doing as he was engineering a high end Stress
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record because I wanted to learn. I wanted to get
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better at this. So originally it started out is I
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don't care it'll sound decent because I've got some decent gear.
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But it's simon on.
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I'm like, I want to get better at this. So
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I really shout out to Chad for allowing me to
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stare over his shoulder and giving me tips, and really,
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you know, he isn't on this record, but his spirit
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is there on the recording side, even selling me one
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of his microphones.
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So shout out to Chad.
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This next one, take two, is originally one of those
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demos that was recorded when I didn't know what I
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was doing, and it was kind of weird. It was
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an example just kind of a trying it out, sampling
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it out and see what I can do with it,
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and it ended up kind of cool, and I sat
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on it for years, and then Andrew Hira heard it
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and really liked it. And it's funny because it sounds
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nothing like High on Stress. It sounds nothing like Billy Pilgrim.
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But it turned out kind of cool, and I wanted
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to get it out because I think it's an interesting song.
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So shout out to Andrew on this. He played a
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whole bunch of stuff, and this one's called take two.
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Take it from me, Take it from me, because I'm
525
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:27.280
taking notes that if you want something, you better start
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letting me know.
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00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.000
Call my blood.
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00:45:58.639 --> 00:45:59.079
For some.
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00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:24.920
And you solf comfort.
530
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:32.800
You don't my letting the show. But if I wanted
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00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:38.239
joey advice, I would let you know.
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00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:52.880
Way someone called my blo. I've been way someone to sappen.
533
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.159
You had a change.
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00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:12.400
To give me ground control, but chin had no sweet
535
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.280
Just let it go.
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00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:32.039
Skipp me ground control, Skip me ground control.
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00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:10.599
I'm not here.
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00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:16.480
Smoking around in dusty shoes. Better leave me where I
539
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.880
am just hanging on. I was born to soon running
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00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:24.760
circles in my room.
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00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.400
Better leave me where I am just hanging a.
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00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:31.119
Curse on.
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Swe freeze.
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00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:36.880
I'm gone.
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Lost one slowly road, feeling you no longer hole. I
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00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.400
guess it's won't bring you back home.
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00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:17.400
Feeling someone lucky the cold diamond Kentucky with.
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00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.880
My on five.
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00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:28.559
It's slowly the wild.
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00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:44.360
The fact as snow knows me like to the fact
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00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.119
its snow, one knows me lack to.
552
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:05.239
You're the only one that's made it clear. Good time
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00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.119
has come back, gone and June no longer.
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Not Here to Lose, not Here to Lose.
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00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.679
It's it's I've been I've been writing songs for a
556
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.880
really long time, and uh, I have a tendency to
557
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.760
go towards the first person and what I'm experiencing at
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00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.239
a given point, and I still do that.
559
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:01.639
I also report what I see and.
560
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.519
Then sometimes in the case of this, this is more
561
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.840
and less about me and more about.
562
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.599
What I'm observing with other people.
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00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.760
So don't worry about me on this one, ladies and gentlemen.
564
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.800
But this song is called not Here to Lose, and
565
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.400
where that came from from a song standpoint, it's not
566
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:26.239
about the situation specifically. But Jeffrey Brower, he's a He's
567
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.400
a High End Stress fan out of Atlanta, Georgia, and
568
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.559
posts videos of himself playing guitar and his porch playing Dakota,
569
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.800
the High on Stress song. So I love that and
570
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.119
he should keep doing that because it always makes me smile.
571
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.559
But he came out to see Jim and I play
572
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.920
when we went down to Atlanta for that Duoh show
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00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.440
along with with Andrew Hyra and Christian Bush from Billy Pilgrim,
574
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.159
and he was at those shows or one of the shows,
575
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:56.159
and he was going through it last year. He had
576
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.360
some family stuff going on that was pretty rough, and
577
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.000
he was kind of reporting on it social media wise,
578
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.039
and he always said, not here to lose, We're not
579
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.119
here to lose, as they were fighting through some things.
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00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.639
And I was inspired by that to write a song
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00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.679
because I love that not here to lose. I've it's
582
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.320
been a weird year, to say the least. I've I've
583
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:23.159
lost five friends, and not not due to politics well
584
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.639
that too, but lost five friends who passed on since
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00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:33.400
she's I think July, and I can't say that's ever
586
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.599
been the case of my life up until this point.
587
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.719
And I'm sure as time goes on it happens more
588
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.840
and more and more because that's what happens. But kind
589
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.559
of hard to take. Lost my job last year too,
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00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.320
right around when all this started to happen, just due
591
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.280
to weird economies that seem to be getting weirder? Am
592
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:50.639
I right?
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00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:51.480
Who's with me?
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00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:52.400
Jesus?
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00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:54.599
Well?
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Weird times it was.
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00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.480
It was not good and uh, and this record has
598
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.079
really helped a lot with that. I spent a lot
599
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:09.119
of time last summer writing and adding and redoing vocals
600
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.880
and remixing and all sorts of stuff, and it really
601
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:17.519
taught me. It really taught me to focus and be
602
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.880
able to do things on your own. I think is key.
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00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.400
And if you think he can't do something, see if
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00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.800
he can do it. I never thought I would be
605
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.840
able to put a record together that I recorded on
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00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:34.440
my own with some guests. Of course, we've the guests
607
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.480
who appeared did some recording and engineering too, but a
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00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.320
majority of the record is recorded at my studio that.
609
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.159
I learned how to use.
610
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:44.559
Finally, and.
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00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:50.480
Weird here, Weird Year for everybody. Weird Year. Shout out.
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00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.800
Shout out to my friend down there at Atlanta. He
613
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.519
bought me a piece of pizza the next day after
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00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.480
the show too, So forever friends. Anybody who buys me
615
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:03.400
a slice pizza if I'm in town, we're friends of forever.
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00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.239
Speaking of friends forever. On that track, Brent Brann appears.
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00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:11.000
I've known Brent since I was fifteen years old. He
618
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.159
was the guy who would be like, your band needs
619
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.679
to record, your band needs an album, your band needs
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00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.000
a music video, your band needs to move to Minneapolis.
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He's the biggest supporter non related in my life since
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00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.960
I was fifteen years old and I say non related,
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00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.199
but in reality we are related. I've told him we
624
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:31.880
are family at this point, and he stuck with me
625
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.079
and he appears on a piano and organ on that
626
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:41.559
song and did a great job and recorded some songs
627
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:46.440
on guitar and bass on some of his records. We've
628
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:47.800
worked on some songs recently.
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I hope to do more. I love that guy.
630
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.000
He's one of my favorite people ever and it's cool
631
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.000
that he's on this And the song got played on
632
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.000
the radio the other day, So shout out to Brent,
633
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.079
Shout out to the radio. I hope more people will
634
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:08.679
spin the record and yeah and infinale. We've got one
635
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.159
more song left that I'm going to tee up here.
636
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.639
But thank you for listening to this. Hope you'll like
637
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.840
the record, Hope you'll pick it up. Shout out to
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00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.199
my bandmates Jim soul, Mark Deverage and Chad Wheeling for
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00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.559
the support here. We'll work on that high on Stress record.
640
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.039
And I appreciate the fact that they they gave me
641
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.679
some room to explore this space. I know that you
642
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.880
always hear those band stories of like no side projects,
643
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.119
no nothing. We don't operate like that. Jim's got a
644
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.239
solo records that he does, Chad Records bands, Marks in
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00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:40.519
five bands here in Minneapolis. I think we're probably the
646
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:45.079
Count of Five. And you know, no hard feelings by anybody,
647
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.599
and that's cool, and I appreciate their support through this
648
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.199
because this was definitely a project to keep me on
649
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.400
the path through all the weird shit that happened last year.
650
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:59.559
So this last song once again brings us back to
651
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.039
certain North Dakota and it's called Goodbye Gravel Roads.
652
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:07.159
And I co wrote this with Andrew.
653
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.440
I wrote the main guitar part in like the first verse,
654
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.239
and I think chorus must have been right around the
655
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.519
same time I wrote gold Star on Moonlight Girls, our
656
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.599
first High on Stress record, And this was also written
657
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.440
around the time of Dakota, which was on Hold Me.
658
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.280
And so some of these songs have just kind of
659
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.679
made their way back and are released. And I never
660
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.639
finished this one. I just had that verse and chorus
661
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.840
had kind of the weird guitar part, and I sent
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00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.360
it to Andrew. This was probably twenty nineteen as well,
663
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.639
and said, can you do anything with this because I've
664
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.760
got this part and this part and then maybe this
665
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:46.079
part go at it and I was in San Francisco,
666
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:47.960
and I said a hotel room in San Francisco, and
667
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:51.559
I got a text from him that says, check your email,
668
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:57.280
and I checked it, and holy shit, dude ran with
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00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.320
it in the best possible ways and it sounds really cool.
670
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.840
He had his friend Steve Fontaine contribute as well, did
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00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.760
bass and programming stuff, and he mixed U when I
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00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.280
mix the record, but he mixed this song specifically, So
673
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.679
cred to Steve out in Palm Desert, California. Steve has
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00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:20.239
worked with Andrew a lot on his solo stuff, production
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00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.480
wise and playing on it. And he's also done remixes
676
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.480
for David Bowie, Aerosmith, Madonna, and Kesha and a whole
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00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.760
bunch of other people, which is kind of awesomely weird.
678
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.280
So way on the bottom of his resume, if you
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00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.320
look with a magnifying glass, you will see Nick Lee Detours.
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00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.639
Thank you, Steve, and this is the last track on
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00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.920
the record. It's coming out next Friday on band camp.
682
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.360
You can download it. You can check it out. CD
683
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.679
is coming soon limited runs. You can do pre orders
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00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:54.719
of CDs. I would love it if you'd buy a
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00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:57.800
physical copy because my son Henry did the artwork. Come on, man,
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00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.480
you gotta support the kid. Come on, what are you
687
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.719
thinking anyway? Thank you for listening to this episode of
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00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.559
the Figure Eights podcast where we did a little uh
689
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:11.920
listening for the new solo album Detours. This is the
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00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.280
last track, Goodbye gravel Roads.
691
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:25.360
Forget the feeling you were born in the wrong place
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00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:32.679
on these old dusty roads. Road mad Bess, leave me.
693
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:40.239
Away from this disgrace to a new zip code. I've
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00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:48.480
been always so long, Just wanna again. I'm gone, goodbye
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00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:49.440
gravel rope.
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00:58:50.000 --> 00:59:05.440
So now fin and myself I didn't live, man again
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00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:12.440
on the lost side town sliding now.
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00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:14.800
With down.
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00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:23.440
I've been away so long, just one lookin.
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00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.880
I'm gone, good bye gravel Roots.
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00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:49.840
I'm out there on the edge of it now, out
702
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:54.119
there with the distant storm clouds.
703
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:59.119
Were lighting and Bazin's way to the ground. I'm out
704
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.360
there on the edge of it now.
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01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:04.760
They're on the.
706
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:10.440
Edge of it now, and they're with the distance of
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01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:13.320
clouds were lightning.
708
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:18.239
It finds us way in the ground. I'm out there
709
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:23.880
on the edge of it now. They're on the edge
710
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:24.559
of it now.
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01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:33.679
And every day waking up trying to keep your head up,
712
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:40.760
let's low things down, the grounding in your coffee cup,
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01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000
trying to keep from giving up in.
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01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:51.800
This post office town. All along you chase these grad
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01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:52.639
little room.
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01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:03.639
Haunting.
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01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:08.599
They're on the edge of it now, they're on the.
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01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.519
Humping down, on.
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01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:21.920
The show it.
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01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:31.880
Now forget the feeling you were born in the wrong place. Home,
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01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:33.719
these old dusty roads,
