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Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Fast
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Forward podcast, powered by FutureWorld. My name
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is Nomvola Omarowai. This week's episode is called
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The Power Pause. The Power Pause is about the
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conscious act of creating space before moving
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forward to gain clarity, perspective, and calm
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in a world that constantly asks us to move faster.
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This episode takes a quick pause from our usual
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programming, a moment to breathe, reflect, and
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recharge. This concept began as a Women's Month
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initiative at Future World. During this initiative,
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we published an insights piece and hosted an
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event where Ms. Klemawisa shared her story and
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reflections on embracing the power pause, a reminder
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of the strength, wisdom, and influence that can
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be found in stillness. In this episode, we share
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the power pose. Our hope is that it stirs something
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in you too, in your own way. You can also read
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our article linked in the show notes. Let's take
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a moment and press pause. Hi everyone. I hope
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you're all enjoying your meal. I'm sure you were
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thinking, oh my goodness, I just finished that
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meze. Is this now seriously another dish in front
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of me? So as you're settling in, we also thought
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we'll give you some food for thought. So we have
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Claire Mawisa here today, and it's my great honor
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to introduce her. So I've heard some people asking,
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who is this lady? So if she looks familiar, you
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might know her from some... TV programs, and
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of course, Carte Blanche, which is my favorite.
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So today she's not here to let us know that it's
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the end of the weekend. But she's going to tell
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a bit more about her story, so I'm not going
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to make a long, lengthy intro. And Claire, we
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love having you. Thanks for being here. What
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if it is the end of the weekend? I'm not here
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to ask any tough questions, ladies. Good morning,
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everyone. And thank you so much. I mean, you
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guys look gorgeous. Prettier than the flowers
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on the table. I'd like to just thank Future World
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for inviting me here today to this gorgeous brunch.
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And I don't know if they told you, this area,
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this space that we're in, this is the very first
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event that they're having with you. Isn't that
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fabulous? I thought that was absolutely fabulous.
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That's why the serving staff are panicking a
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little bit and making sure you guys have a great
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time. Anyway, I was invited by Future World to
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come and share my story on how I learned a lesson.
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And I know that everyone sitting here today has
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their own story how they learned the same lesson.
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So for me, 7 plus 2 is 9. For you, 6 plus 3 is
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9. 5 plus 4 is 9. But we all get there in the
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end. And my intention in sharing my story today
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is hopefully it will trigger a memory on what
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your story was in learning the lesson. Are we
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together? And so hopefully at the end of my little
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chat and after I've shared my story, you are
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more than welcome to ask me a few questions.
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And I'd also love to hear some of your stories
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on how you learned the same lesson, what your
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8 plus 1 is. As Sue Ann so kindly said, yes,
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you might recognize me from Carte Blanche, but
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in prehistoric times when dinosaurs still roamed
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the planet, I used to model a very long time
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ago. And that's how I got into TV presenting.
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And most people know me from there, and I joined
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TV presenting in 1999. But what people don't
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know is that I started my radio career at the
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same time that I started my TV career. People
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don't know that. I joined YFM in 1999, like a
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month after I started TV presenting, and I knew
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nothing about radio. And I joined the breakfast
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team at YFM in 1999 as the entertainment celebrity
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news girl. Because at that time, we didn't have
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social media, and the Kardashians didn't Kardashian
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yet, so it was very important for me to tell
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you what was going on. And let me tell you, I
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was on only for like two minutes a day, but it
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was the best two minutes. of my life because
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as soon as I was in that studio, in that environment,
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I fell in love. It was the magic of broadcasting.
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I was absolutely enthralled by the music, the
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personalities, the sports stars, the personalities
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that were on air. Just being able to impact people
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immediately, I was captivated. And I loved radio
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so much more than I loved TV. And if I was at
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the bottom of the food chain, which I was in
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the radio world, The person who is at the top
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of the food chain is somebody we call a program
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manager. Now, the program manager in a radio
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station is a person that orchestrates all of
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those things that are happening, all those moving
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parts. They really are top of the food chain
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head honcho. And so I love my time there. But
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you see, there were some negative comments that
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came while I was there. I remember there was
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a time just after a staff meeting, we were standing
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and hanging around. I was such an eager beaver.
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And one of the very famous presenters said, he
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was standing right next to me, and he said, they
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hire anyone nowadays, they even get like former
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models to come on air. Can you believe? And I
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stood there, my spine turned to jelly, and I
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tried to act very tough. And there were whisperings
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that really, they get anyone, because who is
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she anyway? and hurt my feelings absolutely,
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but it didn't deter me. I loved radio and I thought
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to myself, you know, I'm going to learn everything
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there is to know about this place. I'm going
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to know everything. And that's how my career
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in radio began. And I left YFM and I went to
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Metro FM. And I was at Metro FM for a few years
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and I learned everything at Metro FM. I learned
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how to press all the buttons on the desk. I did
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graveyard shifts. I read the news when nobody
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could do it. I did every single thing and I had
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a very supportive program manager who allowed
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me to learn every aspect of the business. And
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I went on to work and produce content for lots
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of other radio stations, Radio 2000, OFM, Elko
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FM, Heart FM. And I really was finding my place
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in the radio world. And I was carving my career.
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And I was loving every moment. And then in 2010,
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I got an incredible phone call. My dream radio
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station called me. And they were headhunting
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me. I know. I know. I felt like that girl. And
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it was Kaya FM. And at that time, Kaya FM resonated
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with me and I wanted to work there so badly and
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I didn't know the way in. And who knew? Lo and
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behold, I get a phone call saying, Claire, we
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want you to come produce the biggest radio show
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on our station. And that was such an incredible
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honor. And so began my career at Kaya FM. And
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I worked harder. in my time there than I'd ever
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worked in my entire life. I was at the office
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seven days a week. I was at my desk at 4 .30
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a .m. My first team meeting in the morning was
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at 5 a .m. I left after sunset. I was there around
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the clock because that's what radio is. And I
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had an incredible program manager. who was my
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boss. I still believe he's one of the best program
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managers ever in South Africa. His name is Neil.
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And Neil took me under his wing, and he really
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helped me. And I grew in leaps and bounds. I'd
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never worked so hard in my life, but I was also
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being rewarded. My salary doubled. Hello. And
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also, when you work really hard in an organization,
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they reward you by giving you more responsibility.
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And I started moving up, and hey, life was looking
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great. And I remember I was in a management meeting,
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and I was sitting next to Neil, and Neil made
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the announcement, and he said he was going to
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table it for ExCo, and he says, I'm going to
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leave this place in about a year or two years'
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time, and I want everyone to know that I want
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Claire to be the program manager at Kaya FM when
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I leave. Dream job, dream place, like life was
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aligning. And that was so wonderful, such a validation
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from somebody that I admired so much. And what
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people didn't know, though, was that even though
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from the outside my career trajectory was looking
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incredible and I was gaining the respect of my
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peers in the industry, what they didn't see was
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the stress. I'd never in my life been under so
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much stress because I wanted to do my job well.
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And when I was done with my job, I would help
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you with yours. And if you were done, I would
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find something else to do. And I was just trying
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to be everything to everyone to show them that
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I belong because hello, imposter syndrome. And
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so I was under tremendous stress. I met a friend
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I didn't like called Anxiety. And I was anxious.
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I was hospitalized twice because I had panic
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attacks. And nobody at work knew the amount of
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stress I was going under. Also, because I was
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at the station 24 -7, I was missing so much.
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Friends' birthdays, bridal showers, baby showers,
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weddings, girls' weekends away, family vacations.
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I was missing all of that because I had prioritized
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this thing that I was chasing. I had now 25 years
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in the game, and I was about to touch the dream.
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And so everyone just needed to understand I was
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sacrificing so much to get that. I remember I
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would drive in, and I'd park in my parking bay
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in the mornings, and I'd sit in the car for like
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five minutes, just breathing, just so that I
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was ready to go upstairs and put out the fires
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I needed to put out. And I remember I was sitting
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at my desk one day at 6 .30, 7 .30 in the evening.
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And once again, Neil and I were the only ones
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in the building. And I could see his desk from
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where I was sitting. And I looked at him and
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I watched that picture. And the picture was that
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he had his cell phone in his shoulder like this.
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He's on the phone. He had his landline on top
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like this. He had an unlit cigarette in his mouth,
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typing with one finger on a laptop, swearing
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at someone. And I watched that and I was like...
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Is that what I'm chasing? Are those the forthcoming
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attractions? The next day, I handed in my resignation.
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Everyone was shocked, just like you are. No one
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was more shocked than me because I was this close
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to touching the dream. I was this close. And
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I don't even really know what overcame me. I
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don't even know what motivated me. Death. I don't
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even know, but I handed in my resignation and
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I served my 30 -day notice and that was a daze
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for me. I don't even really remember what happened.
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And I remember my final day at Kaya FM was on
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a Friday. I drove home down Nyansmuts in tears.
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I could hardly see the road because I was sobbing.
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I could feel the physical ache. It felt like
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a breakup. Because I'd worked so long, so hard
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for this moment, and now I'm walking away, and
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I was starting to regret it. What had I just
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done? Was this a mistake? That was a Friday,
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Saturday, Sunday. Monday came around. There was
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no meeting to go to. There was no phone call
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to answer. There was no fire to put out, and
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it got really quiet really quickly. And suddenly,
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for the first time in a very long time, it was
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quiet. And the days got quieter and quieter.
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And I don't want you to think that quiet means
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peace. Because it was quiet and I had space to
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think. But I was unsure. Life was uncertain.
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I didn't know what the next step was. I was doubting
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myself. Had I done the right thing? Oh my goodness,
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what's happening? Anxiety on a thousand. And
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I had lots and lots of questions. But if anyone
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here goes to therapy, they will know that it's
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so uncomfortable when your therapist calls you
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out on your nonsense. I needed to call myself
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out on my own nonsense. What had I done? What
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should I own in how I got to that situation?
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I couldn't blame the business. What do I own?
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And I realized on reflection, I had like three
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big nuggets that stuck out to me. Number one,
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I was doing all of that just to prove a point.
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I was working so hard, I was dedicating my life
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just to prove a point to that guy who I no longer
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even see at 1999 YFM after the staff meeting.
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And I was doing it to prove it to myself, right?
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That I could do it. That I wanted to shut everyone
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down and I didn't want anyone to doubt my credentials.
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That's why I was motivated. The second thing
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I realized also was that I was driven by ego.
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It was such an egocentric driven life. I wanted
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the title. I wanted to be the first black female
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program manager on a commercial radio station.
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I wanted it. Because I knew it would impress
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people. The title was more seductive than Jason
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Momoa. I wanted the business card that said,
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Claire Mawisa, Head of Content, Kaya FM. I wanted
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the corner office. I wanted the parking bay with
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my name on it. I wanted it. But what looked good
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on the outside felt like rubbish on the inside.
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I was chasing it for what? For who? For people
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who didn't even know or care. And the final thing
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I realized during that time was that I didn't
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feel like I had a bit of a purpose anymore. I
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was just moving on autopilot, just doing what
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needed to be done. And so during that time when
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I didn't really have anything to do, People kept
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on asking, what are you going to do next? What
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job are you going to do? And I had no answers
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for people. I was going through a dark time of
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reflection, admitting and owning my role in it.
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Very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. I termed
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that time in my life fun employment, but there
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was no fun about it. I was telling everyone,
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I'm fun employed, I'm fun employed. And it was
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around that time that I thought to myself, I
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should actually go out to coffee with people,
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do things, see what I enjoy, because I had forgotten
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myself in the process. I didn't even know what
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I liked to do when I had free time. And suddenly
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I had hours and hours, 24 hours, 7 days a week
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of free time. And so I wrote articles for newspapers,
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and I stood in for presenters on radio shows,
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I did podcasts. And I remember one day, and I
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met people for coffee, and I remember one day
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I was leaving an office park and I was in a parking
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lot, walking towards my car, and I recognized
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a gentleman that I'd worked with about 20 years
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ago in TV. His name was George. And I saw George,
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and George saw me. He was like, Claire! And I
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was surprised he even remembered me. And George
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says, oh, it's so good to see you. I haven't
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seen you in so long. Let's do coffee. And we
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know in Joburg, that means nothing. You know
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what I mean? Everyone is always doing coffee.
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And so I'm like, internally, I rolled my eyes.
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I'm like, yeah, we should do coffee. And he says,
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give me your number, give me your number. And
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I gave him my number, and we parted ways. Lo
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and behold, the next morning, his PA calls me.
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Hi, Claire, this is Marie, Georgia's PA. I just
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wanted to know whether you're available to do
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coffee day after tomorrow. Are you available?
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Yes, I'm available. I was shocked. I was shocked.
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Day after tomorrow comes, I go to George in his
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office. Very impressive man, very impressive
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building. And I go and I meet George for this
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coffee. And he sits behind his desk and he says,
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Claire, so tell me, I haven't seen you in about
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20 years. What have you been up to? And I told
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George the story, the exact same story that I
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just told you about my radio career. 1999, YFM,
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Metro. All of it. Kaya FM, you know, all of it.
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And I even told him how I resigned the whole
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shebang. And I said, you are meeting me, George,
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now in my fun employment. It's been a few months
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and I haven't done anything. But I was still
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a different person than when I had quit. I was
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clearer on my boundaries. I was braver in admitting
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when I was wrong. my values had aligned. And
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I told him all of this, just like I'm telling
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it to you now. And George sat there in his desk
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and he looked at me and he says, Claire, I love
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that story so much. I think you're the perfect
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person to join our team. That was George Mazarrakis,
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executive producer of Carte Blanche. And that's
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how I joined Carte Blanche. And that was now
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10 years ago. Can you believe? And I tell people
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all the time that one of the greatest things
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is that when carte blanche, possibly the greatest
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opportunity that had come my way, by the time
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it came, it came with me ready. It came with
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me ready. I'd used that time, my little break,
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I'd used that time to heal, to grow, to learn
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the lessons. How did I get there? How do I not
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get there anymore? And I've learned in the last
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10 years, one of the greatest things is that
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you need to learn how to carve out time for yourself,
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to check in with yourself, to find out if you
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are still on purpose. Is this still working for
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me? Why is this no longer working for me? Does
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this feel good? What else should I be doing?
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What is my real purpose? What's going on? Because
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you can actually only do that when you get still
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and quiet and you're away from people and the
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noise and the influences of the world. Because
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oftentimes we do things because they look good,
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not necessarily because they feel good. And taking
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that time for different people means different
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things. For me, sometimes it's 30 minutes bubble
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bath. Sometimes it's a trip to Cape Town for
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the weekend. When my money is right, it will
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be six months in Positano. Right? But the break
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needs to happen on a regular basis because it
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allows you to realign, it allows you to move
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with clarity. And I know it feels so counterintuitive
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to say you become more productive after you've
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taken a break, but it's true. You're clearer,
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you're laser -focused on your mission. You know
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what matters, you know what doesn't matter. It's
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so easy to move away from the noise. once you've
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come back and you've realigned. I don't want
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anyone to quit their job. It's very reckless.
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It's what I did, but I know that I've told people,
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I know they're going to say, I listened to Claire
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and she quit her job and she had a great opportunity.
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That's not the point. The point is to understand,
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ladies, that I think especially because we're
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women. Sometimes we feel beholden to do more
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than we are supposed to do. We extend ourselves
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further than we're supposed to do. And we feel
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that it's indulgent to take a break. It's not
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indulgent, it's crucial. Because I took a break
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voluntarily. I believe it in my bones that had
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I not done it willingly, voluntarily, proactively,
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the break would have happened to me and it would
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have been a medical emergency. I can promise
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you that. So either you choose to take the pause
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or the pause will rain down on you like bricks.
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Sometimes it's a great, wonderful escape. Sometimes
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it's a tough moment where you are forged in the
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fire. I'm here just to hopefully remind you and
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to urge you to take that break because it was
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during that time that I learned the power. of
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the pause. Thank you so much.
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Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Fast
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Forward podcast, powered by FutureWorld. My name
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is Nomvola Omarowai. This week's episode is called
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The Power Pause. The Power Pause is about the
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conscious act of creating space before moving
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forward to gain clarity, perspective, and calm
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in a world that constantly asks us to move faster.
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This episode takes a quick pause from our usual
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programming, a moment to breathe, reflect, and
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recharge. This concept began as a Women's Month
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initiative at Future World. During this initiative,
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we published an insights piece and hosted an
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event where Ms. Klemawisa shared her story and
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reflections on embracing the power pause, a reminder
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of the strength, wisdom, and influence that can
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be found in stillness. In this episode, we share
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the power pose. Our hope is that it stirs something
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in you too, in your own way. You can also read
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our article linked in the show notes. Let's take
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a moment and press pause. Hi everyone. I hope
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you're all enjoying your meal. I'm sure you were
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thinking, oh my goodness, I just finished that
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meze. Is this now seriously another dish in front
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of me? So as you're settling in, we also thought
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we'll give you some food for thought. So we have
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Claire Mawisa here today, and it's my great honor
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to introduce her. So I've heard some people asking,
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who is this lady? So if she looks familiar, you
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might know her from some... TV programs, and
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of course, Carte Blanche, which is my favorite.
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So today she's not here to let us know that it's
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the end of the weekend. But she's going to tell
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a bit more about her story, so I'm not going
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to make a long, lengthy intro. And Claire, we
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love having you. Thanks for being here. What
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if it is the end of the weekend? I'm not here
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to ask any tough questions, ladies. Good morning,
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everyone. And thank you so much. I mean, you
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guys look gorgeous. Prettier than the flowers
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on the table. I'd like to just thank Future World
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for inviting me here today to this gorgeous brunch.
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And I don't know if they told you, this area,
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this space that we're in, this is the very first
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event that they're having with you. Isn't that
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fabulous? I thought that was absolutely fabulous.
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That's why the serving staff are panicking a
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little bit and making sure you guys have a great
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time. Anyway, I was invited by Future World to
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come and share my story on how I learned a lesson.
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And I know that everyone sitting here today has
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their own story how they learned the same lesson.
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So for me, 7 plus 2 is 9. For you, 6 plus 3 is
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9. 5 plus 4 is 9. But we all get there in the
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end. And my intention in sharing my story today
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is hopefully it will trigger a memory on what
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your story was in learning the lesson. Are we
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together? And so hopefully at the end of my little
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chat and after I've shared my story, you are
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more than welcome to ask me a few questions.
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And I'd also love to hear some of your stories
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on how you learned the same lesson, what your
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8 plus 1 is. As Sue Ann so kindly said, yes,
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you might recognize me from Carte Blanche, but
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in prehistoric times when dinosaurs still roamed
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the planet, I used to model a very long time
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ago. And that's how I got into TV presenting.
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And most people know me from there, and I joined
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TV presenting in 1999. But what people don't
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know is that I started my radio career at the
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same time that I started my TV career. People
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don't know that. I joined YFM in 1999, like a
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month after I started TV presenting, and I knew
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nothing about radio. And I joined the breakfast
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team at YFM in 1999 as the entertainment celebrity
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news girl. Because at that time, we didn't have
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social media, and the Kardashians didn't Kardashian
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yet, so it was very important for me to tell
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you what was going on. And let me tell you, I
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was on only for like two minutes a day, but it
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was the best two minutes. of my life because
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as soon as I was in that studio, in that environment,
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I fell in love. It was the magic of broadcasting.
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I was absolutely enthralled by the music, the
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personalities, the sports stars, the personalities
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that were on air. Just being able to impact people
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immediately, I was captivated. And I loved radio
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so much more than I loved TV. And if I was at
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the bottom of the food chain, which I was in
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the radio world, The person who is at the top
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of the food chain is somebody we call a program
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manager. Now, the program manager in a radio
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station is a person that orchestrates all of
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those things that are happening, all those moving
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parts. They really are top of the food chain
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head honcho. And so I love my time there. But
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you see, there were some negative comments that
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came while I was there. I remember there was
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a time just after a staff meeting, we were standing
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and hanging around. I was such an eager beaver.
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And one of the very famous presenters said, he
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was standing right next to me, and he said, they
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hire anyone nowadays, they even get like former
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models to come on air. Can you believe? And I
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stood there, my spine turned to jelly, and I
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tried to act very tough. And there were whisperings
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that really, they get anyone, because who is
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she anyway? and hurt my feelings absolutely,
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but it didn't deter me. I loved radio and I thought
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to myself, you know, I'm going to learn everything
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there is to know about this place. I'm going
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to know everything. And that's how my career
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in radio began. And I left YFM and I went to
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Metro FM. And I was at Metro FM for a few years
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and I learned everything at Metro FM. I learned
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how to press all the buttons on the desk. I did
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graveyard shifts. I read the news when nobody
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could do it. I did every single thing and I had
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a very supportive program manager who allowed
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me to learn every aspect of the business. And
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I went on to work and produce content for lots
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of other radio stations, Radio 2000, OFM, Elko
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FM, Heart FM. And I really was finding my place
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in the radio world. And I was carving my career.
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And I was loving every moment. And then in 2010,
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I got an incredible phone call. My dream radio
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station called me. And they were headhunting
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me. I know. I know. I felt like that girl. And
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it was Kaya FM. And at that time, Kaya FM resonated
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with me and I wanted to work there so badly and
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I didn't know the way in. And who knew? Lo and
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behold, I get a phone call saying, Claire, we
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want you to come produce the biggest radio show
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on our station. And that was such an incredible
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honor. And so began my career at Kaya FM. And
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I worked harder. in my time there than I'd ever
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worked in my entire life. I was at the office
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seven days a week. I was at my desk at 4 .30
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a .m. My first team meeting in the morning was
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at 5 a .m. I left after sunset. I was there around
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the clock because that's what radio is. And I
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had an incredible program manager. who was my
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boss. I still believe he's one of the best program
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managers ever in South Africa. His name is Neil.
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And Neil took me under his wing, and he really
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helped me. And I grew in leaps and bounds. I'd
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never worked so hard in my life, but I was also
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being rewarded. My salary doubled. Hello. And
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also, when you work really hard in an organization,
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they reward you by giving you more responsibility.
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And I started moving up, and hey, life was looking
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great. And I remember I was in a management meeting,
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and I was sitting next to Neil, and Neil made
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the announcement, and he said he was going to
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table it for ExCo, and he says, I'm going to
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leave this place in about a year or two years'
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time, and I want everyone to know that I want
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Claire to be the program manager at Kaya FM when
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I leave. Dream job, dream place, like life was
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aligning. And that was so wonderful, such a validation
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from somebody that I admired so much. And what
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people didn't know, though, was that even though
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from the outside my career trajectory was looking
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incredible and I was gaining the respect of my
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peers in the industry, what they didn't see was
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the stress. I'd never in my life been under so
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much stress because I wanted to do my job well.
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And when I was done with my job, I would help
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you with yours. And if you were done, I would
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find something else to do. And I was just trying
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to be everything to everyone to show them that
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I belong because hello, imposter syndrome. And
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so I was under tremendous stress. I met a friend
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I didn't like called Anxiety. And I was anxious.
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I was hospitalized twice because I had panic
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attacks. And nobody at work knew the amount of
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stress I was going under. Also, because I was
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at the station 24 -7, I was missing so much.
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Friends' birthdays, bridal showers, baby showers,
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weddings, girls' weekends away, family vacations.
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I was missing all of that because I had prioritized
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this thing that I was chasing. I had now 25 years
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in the game, and I was about to touch the dream.
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And so everyone just needed to understand I was
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sacrificing so much to get that. I remember I
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would drive in, and I'd park in my parking bay
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in the mornings, and I'd sit in the car for like
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five minutes, just breathing, just so that I
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was ready to go upstairs and put out the fires
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I needed to put out. And I remember I was sitting
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at my desk one day at 6 .30, 7 .30 in the evening.
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And once again, Neil and I were the only ones
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in the building. And I could see his desk from
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where I was sitting. And I looked at him and
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I watched that picture. And the picture was that
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he had his cell phone in his shoulder like this.
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He's on the phone. He had his landline on top
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like this. He had an unlit cigarette in his mouth,
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typing with one finger on a laptop, swearing
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at someone. And I watched that and I was like...
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Is that what I'm chasing? Are those the forthcoming
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attractions? The next day, I handed in my resignation.
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Everyone was shocked, just like you are. No one
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was more shocked than me because I was this close
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to touching the dream. I was this close. And
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I don't even really know what overcame me. I
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don't even know what motivated me. Death. I don't
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even know, but I handed in my resignation and
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I served my 30 -day notice and that was a daze
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for me. I don't even really remember what happened.
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And I remember my final day at Kaya FM was on
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a Friday. I drove home down Nyansmuts in tears.
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I could hardly see the road because I was sobbing.
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I could feel the physical ache. It felt like
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a breakup. Because I'd worked so long, so hard
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for this moment, and now I'm walking away, and
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I was starting to regret it. What had I just
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done? Was this a mistake? That was a Friday,
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Saturday, Sunday. Monday came around. There was
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no meeting to go to. There was no phone call
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to answer. There was no fire to put out, and
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it got really quiet really quickly. And suddenly,
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for the first time in a very long time, it was
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quiet. And the days got quieter and quieter.
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And I don't want you to think that quiet means
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peace. Because it was quiet and I had space to
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think. But I was unsure. Life was uncertain.
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I didn't know what the next step was. I was doubting
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myself. Had I done the right thing? Oh my goodness,
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what's happening? Anxiety on a thousand. And
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I had lots and lots of questions. But if anyone
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here goes to therapy, they will know that it's
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so uncomfortable when your therapist calls you
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out on your nonsense. I needed to call myself
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out on my own nonsense. What had I done? What
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should I own in how I got to that situation?
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I couldn't blame the business. What do I own?
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And I realized on reflection, I had like three
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big nuggets that stuck out to me. Number one,
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I was doing all of that just to prove a point.
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I was working so hard, I was dedicating my life
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just to prove a point to that guy who I no longer
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even see at 1999 YFM after the staff meeting.
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And I was doing it to prove it to myself, right?
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That I could do it. That I wanted to shut everyone
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down and I didn't want anyone to doubt my credentials.
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That's why I was motivated. The second thing
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I realized also was that I was driven by ego.
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It was such an egocentric driven life. I wanted
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the title. I wanted to be the first black female
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program manager on a commercial radio station.
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I wanted it. Because I knew it would impress
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people. The title was more seductive than Jason
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Momoa. I wanted the business card that said,
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Claire Mawisa, Head of Content, Kaya FM. I wanted
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the corner office. I wanted the parking bay with
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my name on it. I wanted it. But what looked good
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on the outside felt like rubbish on the inside.
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I was chasing it for what? For who? For people
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who didn't even know or care. And the final thing
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I realized during that time was that I didn't
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feel like I had a bit of a purpose anymore. I
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was just moving on autopilot, just doing what
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needed to be done. And so during that time when
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I didn't really have anything to do, People kept
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on asking, what are you going to do next? What
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job are you going to do? And I had no answers
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for people. I was going through a dark time of
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reflection, admitting and owning my role in it.
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Very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. I termed
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that time in my life fun employment, but there
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was no fun about it. I was telling everyone,
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I'm fun employed, I'm fun employed. And it was
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around that time that I thought to myself, I
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should actually go out to coffee with people,
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do things, see what I enjoy, because I had forgotten
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myself in the process. I didn't even know what
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I liked to do when I had free time. And suddenly
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I had hours and hours, 24 hours, 7 days a week
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of free time. And so I wrote articles for newspapers,
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and I stood in for presenters on radio shows,
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I did podcasts. And I remember one day, and I
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met people for coffee, and I remember one day
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I was leaving an office park and I was in a parking
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lot, walking towards my car, and I recognized
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a gentleman that I'd worked with about 20 years
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ago in TV. His name was George. And I saw George,
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and George saw me. He was like, Claire! And I
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was surprised he even remembered me. And George
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says, oh, it's so good to see you. I haven't
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seen you in so long. Let's do coffee. And we
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know in Joburg, that means nothing. You know
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what I mean? Everyone is always doing coffee.
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And so I'm like, internally, I rolled my eyes.
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I'm like, yeah, we should do coffee. And he says,
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give me your number, give me your number. And
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I gave him my number, and we parted ways. Lo
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and behold, the next morning, his PA calls me.
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Hi, Claire, this is Marie, Georgia's PA. I just
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wanted to know whether you're available to do
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coffee day after tomorrow. Are you available?
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Yes, I'm available. I was shocked. I was shocked.
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Day after tomorrow comes, I go to George in his
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office. Very impressive man, very impressive
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building. And I go and I meet George for this
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coffee. And he sits behind his desk and he says,
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Claire, so tell me, I haven't seen you in about
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20 years. What have you been up to? And I told
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George the story, the exact same story that I
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just told you about my radio career. 1999, YFM,
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Metro. All of it. Kaya FM, you know, all of it.
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And I even told him how I resigned the whole
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shebang. And I said, you are meeting me, George,
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now in my fun employment. It's been a few months
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and I haven't done anything. But I was still
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a different person than when I had quit. I was
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clearer on my boundaries. I was braver in admitting
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when I was wrong. my values had aligned. And
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I told him all of this, just like I'm telling
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it to you now. And George sat there in his desk
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and he looked at me and he says, Claire, I love
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that story so much. I think you're the perfect
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person to join our team. That was George Mazarrakis,
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executive producer of Carte Blanche. And that's
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how I joined Carte Blanche. And that was now
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10 years ago. Can you believe? And I tell people
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all the time that one of the greatest things
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is that when carte blanche, possibly the greatest
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opportunity that had come my way, by the time
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it came, it came with me ready. It came with
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me ready. I'd used that time, my little break,
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I'd used that time to heal, to grow, to learn
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the lessons. How did I get there? How do I not
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get there anymore? And I've learned in the last
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10 years, one of the greatest things is that
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you need to learn how to carve out time for yourself,
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to check in with yourself, to find out if you
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are still on purpose. Is this still working for
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me? Why is this no longer working for me? Does
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this feel good? What else should I be doing?
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What is my real purpose? What's going on? Because
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you can actually only do that when you get still
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and quiet and you're away from people and the
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noise and the influences of the world. Because
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oftentimes we do things because they look good,
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not necessarily because they feel good. And taking
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that time for different people means different
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things. For me, sometimes it's 30 minutes bubble
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bath. Sometimes it's a trip to Cape Town for
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the weekend. When my money is right, it will
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be six months in Positano. Right? But the break
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needs to happen on a regular basis because it
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allows you to realign, it allows you to move
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with clarity. And I know it feels so counterintuitive
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to say you become more productive after you've
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taken a break, but it's true. You're clearer,
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you're laser -focused on your mission. You know
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what matters, you know what doesn't matter. It's
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so easy to move away from the noise. once you've
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come back and you've realigned. I don't want
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anyone to quit their job. It's very reckless.
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It's what I did, but I know that I've told people,
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I know they're going to say, I listened to Claire
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and she quit her job and she had a great opportunity.
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That's not the point. The point is to understand,
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ladies, that I think especially because we're
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women. Sometimes we feel beholden to do more
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than we are supposed to do. We extend ourselves
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further than we're supposed to do. And we feel
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that it's indulgent to take a break. It's not
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indulgent, it's crucial. Because I took a break
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voluntarily. I believe it in my bones that had
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I not done it willingly, voluntarily, proactively,
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the break would have happened to me and it would
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have been a medical emergency. I can promise
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you that. So either you choose to take the pause
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or the pause will rain down on you like bricks.
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Sometimes it's a great, wonderful escape. Sometimes
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it's a tough moment where you are forged in the
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fire. I'm here just to hopefully remind you and
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to urge you to take that break because it was
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during that time that I learned the power. of
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the pause. Thank you so much.