Throwback: Scott Russo - Singer / Songwriter (Unwritten Law)

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Hey, Street Walkers. This is a throwback episode with guest
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Scott Russo. Scott has been on a couple of times,
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but he first appeared on the show August third, twenty twenty,
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and it was such a compelling and fun episode that
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I decided it needed to be revisited. So enjoy this
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throwback episode. Tell a friend and thanks for listening. I
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believe that everybody has a story and I'm fascinated to
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hear them, So come with me as we take a
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walk down Fascination Street. Welcome back to Street Walkers. This
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episode is with Scott Russo, the lead singer of Unwritten Law.
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In this episode, we get to know Scott a little
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bit and about how he got into Unwritten Law. We'll
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talk about some of the reasons he got into music,
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what music means to him now, and some of the
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new projects he's working on, and of course what is
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punk rock. Scott is a super down to earth dude
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to talk to, and I can't imagine that this will
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be the only time he's on the show. Everybody reach
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out and follow Scott on various social medias and tell
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him that you heard him on Fascination Street podcast. This
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was recorded during all the self distancing due to the
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coronavirus outbreak. So if that is over by now, woohoo.
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If not, damn it. But either way, this is my
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conversation with the lead singer of Unwritten Law, Scott Russo.
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Welcome to Fascination Street podcast. Scott Russo, how you doing, man?
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I am fucking fantastic. This is going to sound super weird.
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But a long time ago, like maybe fifteen years ago,
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I was working at a bank and I met this
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kid who was probably ten years younger than me. I'm
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in my mid forties, and he was listening to all
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kinds of crazy music I had never heard before. He
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was listening to Alkaline Trio. He was listening to Blink
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on eighty two. I had only known one Blink one
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eighty two song and it was The Small Things Won
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or whatever. And he was listening to Unwritten Law. I
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had never heard of Unwritten Law, and I was so
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grateful that this dude brought you into my life because
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Unwritten Law kicked fucking ass. So thank you, well, you're welcome.
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Thank you. Specifically, there's one song that was very very
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important to me, and it's important to you too. But
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we're going to get to that in just a little bit.
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First Unwritten Law has been together since the early nineties.
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Can you tell me how you guys met?
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Yeah, actually started like in eighty nine.
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Holy shit.
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We all met a high school practice high school in Tale,
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and that's where I met the law guys. And they
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had like a cover band and they covers and I
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lived in its abandoned house in twe it's called a
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blue room, and we would throw a massive parties here
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all the time, like who had left the house and
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that's let's just and water running in it and it's
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sucking old as shit. My friend is living here for
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a while and he's like, yeah, I'm moving out and
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getting it to another place. I can take it over,
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like someone's ever come here, like six months, like oh,
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I moved in there. Like four of the people moved
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in there, spread painted and sucked up, and the left
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like three huge paint buckets a blue paint and so
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it's like it looks like get get us fucking there.
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We took the stuff and painted over all the graffiti
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and that was the bloom and some of the bloom,
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and then we'd have parties all the time. And I written,
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now I had come over to my house and I said,
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I the fucking massive parties at this house. And they
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came over and they were playing their set and they
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just have other people lusted and do play. They took
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punk rock karaoke and I think through God's Winning. When
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I was done, waves were like, hey, man, you're singing
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for the band. I was trying the band, like, yeah,
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you guys got new you know music, He's I can
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get six songs got written when the lyrics and now
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he's a cool given to me, gave me the song.
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A week later, I came back my dad was what
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I got, and that was a six song demo and
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it kind of sort of all started.
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Eighty nine the fucking Sweet. I had no idea. I
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thought it was the mid nineties. Man, my apologies.
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I think we were. Our first record was like the
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first release was like ninety two or something or ninety one.
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There you go. Now, I know that before you got
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into Unwritten law. Aren't you like a professional skateboard dude?
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Yeah? It my first loved. I really never wanted to
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be a musician. Funny story behind that is like when
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I was like ten or eleven, I wanted to snowboard
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for Christmas my brother and my other brother Mike, wanted
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a guitar and guitar lessons. And when Christmas came, he
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got a guitar and guitar lessons, and I got a
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piano like a cassio piano and piano lessons. And it
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was kind of like a weird story. Again, I should
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feel terrible. I've always told them to get my parents.
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I fucking really was mad at him. I wanted to
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fucking till boy didn't want to play, so thank god, though,
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could you cut you now? And what happened was I
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had taken cawnlet for like two or three months, and
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I client could figure out myself, quit doing that and
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started writing a music that was anout eleven or twelve,
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and I'll tell you about skateboarding. At the time, snowboarding
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had just come out and I want to get into
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that and am on fourteen. I had started a band
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called Spy Kids with Matt Hensley of Bard and Molly
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Craig Yarnold of buck o'nin and Mark mackilmore from Pivot.
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Whole bunch of people in the band that all kind
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of turned out to the other big bands and we
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started a band because Matt Hensley was He was a
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pro skater for AH Street at the time, the best
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in the world. He sponsored by three people, and so
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I got on H Street through him and started skating skating, skating,
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And I was working at a place called Handles at
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the time, and my manager was also the team manager
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for Zolac, and so like, I really fucking loved me
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in that game. And you know, attorney pro as you want,
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you give the model and everything, and so yeah, much suck. Yeah,
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it's all I've ever wanted, and gave me a model
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and then that was it and they went under shortly after.
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But I got went proper to Rollac and I saw
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that one skateboarding for my first love, my only love,
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and then you kind of fell the place for me.
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So did you have your own board? Like your own
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some kid could go in and buy a Scott russo yep,
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no shit, do you have any of them? Do you
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have one?
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Yeah? I have two of them. No, I've looked too
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of my.
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Models in kick Ass. Did you get to pick out
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the artwork or design it?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, what's on it? What's the artwork?
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The first one is like, is it kind of like
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Asian birds and it's three D and it comes to
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three D glasses and shit. And the second one was
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like fucking skull smoking out of it and.
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Ship that's so cool. I didn't even know that. I
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was real big into Paul fer Aalto when I was
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a teenager. That's fucking super dope man.
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So that's where he shot out. I was in a
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skateboarding and probably got into my first band or whatever
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that's just started playing writing music because I played keyboards
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in a ska band called Spy Kids and that band
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had that handily and not going more on Craig Yarnold
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and all that innutes and we did pretty well because
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Matt was the best in the world. That dand broke
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up like two years later. I was just skateboarding at
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that time for like no two years going to school
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and that's an unrett locked on me and we did
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our thing like y I'll give me a chance again.
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Like whatever, Yeah, I'll give it this a shot. Why not,
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so you don't have to talk about it if you
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don't want to. But did do you leave home or
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get kicked out like when you were fifteen?
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I did? I did. It was kind of mutual. My
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stepfather and I didn't get along. My poor mother like
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loved us both, but we were just too gnarly together.
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I think everyone's kind of had their own tragedies in
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their upbringing, so I don't blame anyone for anything. I
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blamed people for how they were raised, and that's why
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they do things to their kids or whatever. And so
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my my upbringing was was rough probably for the most
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but not rough for them. That's not true. That's why
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I figure something. I fucking I feel stupid same. You know,
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there was problems in my house, for sure, and I
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noticed people have had worse problems in their house. And
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I love my family very much, but at that time,
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in that era, things were you know, accepted that aren't
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accepted today. You know.
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Uh, yeah, you're right. Everybody has their own struggles and
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our job, I guess, is to deal with them and
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move on as best we can.
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Yeah.
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Now, I am going to jump around all over the
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place just because I'm crazy like that. What do you
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think is the difference between the punk rock music you
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were making when you were younger and the punk rock
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music you're making now? Is it still punk? And do
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you care?
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I mean, I give literally zero fucks like less than that, Like,
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I don't care. When I started making music, punk looking cool,
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like are punk looking and cool yet? Like, and you
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were listening to things that we thought were cool and
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like you know, bad brains and minor threats and you know,
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stuff like that, and it was fucking dope. And we
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started on bandagcause nothing happen at punk can't happened. It's
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kind of what kind of turned me off about plumps. You.
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It kind of got swallowed up and laughed it out
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when it was just everybody's and it wasn't mine anymore.
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And then when it was very easy to take four
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chords and speed him up and put a punk rock
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feat to it and stamped your over punk rock, that's
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what It kind of made me nauseous. And you had
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all these fat bands that times the same you had
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all these other bands after that band time and time
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like that. But it's a ship like some of the
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songs were really well cropping songs, but some of them weren't,
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and they were just carbon copies of each other, and
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it kind of weirded me out. So when that happened,
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I guess we kind of turned off our punk stuff
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and dropped to D tuning and try to do something
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this time. You know, I'm a fan of music. I've
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been listening to more music, so I started writing more songs.
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I've grown up, and so I'd say the punk rock
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quote unquote is the spirit. I wouldn't say it's like
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a form of music anymore because you'd have to break
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it down into fifteen genres. You know, you have the
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early OI, you know, punk rock. You know, you have
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your British punk rock after that with set Cistols and
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Sham sixty nine and all that stuff. And then you
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have your American punk rock with the Ramone and mystics
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and bad brains and eat coat scenes, and you have
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suicidal tendencies and all this thing over here, and you
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have Gostic Front and all the fucking New York fans,
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and then you have the whole Then it's before the
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whole epitaph blank green Day thing, it happened. So then
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you cut to and Nirvana happened, when green Day happened,
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It's it's full, its everywhere, and then this whole epitaph
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movement happens with the action sports that the whole nother
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genre in its sonar, and then you after that you
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have screen on it, after they have this, and like,
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so I think that punk is a spirit and I
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mean it's gonna say pop punk like we know, I don't,
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you know, there's I just don't care. Quite honestly, That's
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where I'm at.
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Well, not caring. Is pretty punk rock, isn't it.
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I mean, yeah, I guess, And that's I think it
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just should be. It's I can when we make songs
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like you know, we got done recording on any record
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and there's some fast and heavy and mean shit on it,
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and to me that's punk. And there's some songs that
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are really beautiful but we're putting like stocked up lyrics
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on them, and to me, that's punk. But in no
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way would both fall under someone's probably vision of quote
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unquote punk.
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To me, the definition of punk is to make the
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music you want to make and give zero FUCKX. And
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it sounds like that's what you're doing, so in my
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mind that's still punk. Man. What are you doing? How
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do you keep evolving? What are you doing to keep
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your music fresh? I know you get tired of the
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same old shit, So what are you doing to evolve?
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You know what?
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I quite Honestly, I listen to a lot of oldies,
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like I find myself in the eighties a lot, and
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in the seventies and in the sixties. If I look
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in the sixties like I kind of pine priensic. In
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the morning, I was in nutritional reggae, fifties reggae, and
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midday I'll go into like the Cure of the Smith's
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or Leaving for Smith's. And at the end it's fucking
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you know, it's Katty Kaine or Billie Holliday, are fucking
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buddy Holliy you know I'm saying. So I have, like
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my sheep, I try to constantly pump good stuff into
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my soul and my head and that way when I
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lie actually regurgitate this information with new songs like it's dope.
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So I tried to listen to a wide variety if
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she had not purposely, but just because that's what my soul,
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with my soul desires and in the moment. But there
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is an uderline reason behind this only listening to dope
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shots from when I make songs ill to make sure
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they're fucking dope so I can be That's it. So
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that's why I'm that in my life and music isn't
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the same for me as it is for most people.
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I can only imagine anymore. So I can't listen to
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a song. But oh that's so like when I listen
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to a song automatically, I break it down in the
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fucking thirty six dimensions, like the Lutange crowd, I tear
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it apart. I listened to fucking the change is the
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fucking the drops. You know, every singlettle thing. I'm scientifically
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fucking accepting it. And it kind of sucks that I
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don't remember what if I to listen to songs like
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feel a song, so sometimes you get that feeling. I
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look into like Bill Bell Viberto, which she's in Portuguese,
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and I fucking know de real Portuguese. But I listened
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to because I can just hear the melody and the
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music and it makes me feel a certain way. And
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so that's what happens with me. Kind of with cherch
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reggae as well. It's if there's beer's I'm not concentrating
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on new content or harmonies, where he's going, where he's
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taking the melody or whatever. It's just scottlife. It's just fucking music.
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And you know that's for this very music, literal music
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in my life. So I eat, sleep, and drink it.
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That's all I do is music. But I'm nothing's every
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song like my son's look came out at me, revaulting
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with them, and I have fucking music. It's like my dad,
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did you enjoyed it quiet? Like I can't, Like I
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can't just have quiet. There's always music going on. It
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would my music, or I'm bumping some other shits.
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Well, I guess it's safe to say music is in
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your blood. Man. You wrote a song called Kaylin and
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it is about your daughter when she was three or
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four or something like that. The first time I heard
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that song, this is gonna sound dumb as shit, but
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the first time I heard that song, my eyes got
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all watery and I just about cry, but I couldn't
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because I was in public. The reason is because you're welcome.
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Thank you for writing it. That song is very important
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to me because I had a child very young, and
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I had really no good outlook, no future, so to speak.
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And so you know, having my son really it literally
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saved my life. I didn't really have a reason to live,
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and so when I hear that song, I changed a
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little girl to little boy, and I changed Kaylen. I
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changed the word Kaylin to my son's name, and I
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just sort of sing it, you know, to myself like that.
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But that song means so much to me, so again,
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thank you for writing it. It just sort of puts
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into words how I felt that my son changed my life.
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So I'm sure you've heard a million stories like that
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because it's such a great song, but I just wanted
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to share that and I wanted to ask you how
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did that song change the trajectory of unwritten law.
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It's crazy that you got the questions. Crazy's a crazy
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story behind the whole thing. Like at this time, we
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were very like we're a rock band. We're signing Interscope,
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I believe at this time or my Epics first label
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and the black record Jim Scope, and we've written the
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songs and are showed some the A and R and
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are and say yeah, he was good. You know, I'll
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hear a single and what was a single? Get me
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more songs like I got this one, this other and
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just the previous this. I'd written a song just to
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my daughter. It's a gift to her, like it's nothing
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me and her, And so I gave give him all
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my songs, all my songs, and we didn't hear like, well,
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I wrote the song about for my daughter, but you know,
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and the law was rock and this is pretty fucking
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far from off. And I told him here, I'm playing
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you that I got my first verse and at the
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first course, like there it is as a single. I'm like,
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no way this band can play that song. He's like,
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he's like, well, we're gonna trust me. It's gonna it's
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gonna change your career. And so I brought up the
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boys and I played it for them and I'm like, hey,
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this is what Steven said saying about the ship that
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you uh you know. And I'm like, uh, guy, if
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you guys don't play it there, yeah, I got sure, Okay,
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I never played I was embarrassed to play it for him.
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I've never been played it for him. Then I told
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them the story is, like, yeah, we want to do it.
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So I launched her. Really fucking long is that if
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I would not have had Kaylen when I was nineteen,
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which is fucking crazy. It's like as a baby having
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a baby nineteen years old, and I'd gone to college
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briefly to become a teacher, and no, but I know,
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high school diploma and I acually had nothing. We just
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signed a record deal and I got my girlfriend and
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pregnateive like three months. I was nineteen. I'm like, you
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know what, fuck this, I just have a baby. No
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religious reasons, no like pro choic, nothing like that. And
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some having baby fucking was such a new shit. And
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so we had Klen and it was like, honestly the
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same thing it happened for you. For me, if I
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wouldn't have had this child, I would have killed myself
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easily ten times over, you know, on accident obviously. But
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if I didn't have this baby, I would have written
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that song. So I would have written that song. We
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wouldn't have had a single, an unwritten lawst career would
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have fucking gone away. That song gave us another like
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two record deals firm with Interscope or whoever it was,
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and then we got signed. But people keep kept on
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signing us because we've written that. And then all of
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a sudden, she hitching hit. And if I wouldn't have
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written Kilean, I wouldn't have had a chance to at
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seeing red and up all night and rest my life whenever.
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The other single song and so it all stands back
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in that one choice when I was nineteen to have
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this child, and every one of the times when you're
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fucking crazy, man, you can't have a baby, ve near
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a baby and saying no, that's cool man, this is
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meant to be obviously whatever, and thank god she all
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my kids are just truly blessed. Like I'm a hat
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trick man, fucking three diamonds. They're all up and running,
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all out of the house, all beautiful ones in Francisco,
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up in Hollywood ones if you truly blessed. But yeah, man,
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that's the sort of Kaitlin. And to answer your question,
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it gave unwritten all the opportunity that one song gave
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law a career. And yeah, let's thank Cayen for that.
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Let's get back into it. How does she feel about
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that song? How does she feel about that beautiful song
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being written about her?
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You know what? I think she just SENSI sized to it,
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you know, kind of corny, especially just written about you
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and social weird girl. And like when I wrote it
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for she was three or four. I think when it
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came out, she might have been seven or eight. And
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so I played a song for her all the time,
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and she thought it was cute, you know, but then
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when it became like MTV and radio and off stuff,
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it's really weird. And then you know she's going into
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middle school and high schools. It's a thing. And then
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we pull her up on stage too. I'd write a song,
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she'd go, oh, she come up to page and I'm
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kind of staring at her. And so you know, she
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got to fucking you know, last year when he was
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a K rock show in La, like she comes out
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because she's living in a Siller lake and she comes
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out on stage and people are like, oh, you're dropping
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so beautiful. That kind of stuff. I'm like, nah, that's
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an auditors and so that's calin So it's kind of trippy.
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But how does she feel? I did? She feels special,
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you know, but again I think she's feluly synthesized because
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of all she knows. And you know, she's turned quite
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a lot of stories of I don't name my daughter Klein,
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I mean made my daughter cale at that song, and
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so I'd be happy with it. I never really asked
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her because I think that's corny two. But I can
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assume that she was probably embarrassed going up and now
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she thinks guy's probably pretty cool for doing that nice. Well,
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it seems I guess.
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When the world was looking dark and films gold and
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green and what the hell am I even?
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What's the purpose?
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I feel is Jill and yeah, yeah, yeah uk.
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Empty?
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So was mymaside.
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I thought I'd love you, yeah, Mary, the way a.
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Little old girl, of.
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What you do?
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You a little girl?
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Well, knowing that always ride.
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A girl breaks my uncle.
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See you guys, so many things I want to say, yeah,
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never know, that's your the reason that I'm here today.
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Whenever you're here, just stay me, girl, watch.
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I love you and girl love want you and loves
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I got my Ja.
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Yeah, I'll be I need you stay as long as your.
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Just watch.
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Oh wat when Love said I got you.
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Ja, Now I hear that she has a pretty interesting
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path of her own. What's she doing now?
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Yeah, she's making music. You definitely got to check her out,
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Kaylin Mussu well on all all platforms. She's outgags her
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daddy by ten old. He asked, one management out of
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England right now, and she's done Lolla pluza, she done
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ridding tuft role. She toured the country a few times,
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done Europe the UK a few times, and he asked,
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she's a bad at like, She's literally one of my
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favorite artists. And I'm really stingy with my music too.
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Is what I like? It's value dope and I'm just
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that kind of guy. You need my child, and the
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music isn't very good, I probably would like to you.
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I thought, wouldn't I too? But her shit is fucking dope.
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It's really dope. I generally listened to it at certain
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times in the day and lyrically melodically delivery. She has
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soul and that's something you just can't teach. But as
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she grew up in it. She was in the studio,
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she's on the two of us, she did the things,
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you know, the blank guys did shop her but parties.
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So it was like, it's kind of like that.
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So how do her lyrics compare with yours?
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Hers are better?
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Do you give her notes?
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No? No, she gives me notes. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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you know, she's a day like, you know, fucking it's
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not nineteen ninety eighty, boy, can't go We're all right,
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we're up all night. You got to go deeper. And
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so she keeps me in check, you know what I'm saying. Sure,
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And to listen to a lot of new music out
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new lyricists are really fucking devastating. And then you think
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about with my lyrics back and what got by back
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in those days. They say, oh my god, I can't believe.
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Then people love this shit. And I was like, dude,
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like dang, and I was nikaelin I'm like, oh, almost
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boiler embarrassing because she's so ahead of fucking digging and
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race on this ship.
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When my son was little, I was working in a
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bunch of restaurants, cooking, managing that sort of thing. And
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he eventually became a chef, and your little girl grew
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up on tour buses and in the music scene, and
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she grew up to be, you know, in the family business,
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so to speak. How proud does that make you? Like,
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how do you feel that your little baby is in
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the family business.
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I mean, you know that it's funny that you asked
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that question too, because I wasn't really stoked. She was like,
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she was doing really well. Modeling obviously doesn't last forever.
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But she wasn't just like a really good like she
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was like kind of like a fashion icon. There was
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one time when I drove down Hollywood Boulevard and I
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went through three of her billboards on the fucking freeway.
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She was so big, she was oversapped from the modeling market.
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And you know, I at one point I got a
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phone call from her agent and she's like, you know,
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Caylen just turned down this much. I don't disclose me
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whatever whatever, but it was a fucking lot turned down
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this much for detail genes for one days with the work,
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you know, and by this time of her agents and
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our family or family, so I'm well, fucking me, it's
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going on. I call it cale and like, hey, Dave,
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you know, Jules just called me to say, you just
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turn out detail and you know, even if you don't
499
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need that money, and maybe your mommy needs need it,
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maybe your grandma, maybe brother, someone's gonna need at some point.
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And to your daddy, she goes, I want to start
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singing and you get in the music industry and getting
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family business. I'm like, no, don't, don't do it, and
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she's like, that is well my heart is. My heart
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is not in modeling. I mean, she was up there, man,
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00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.759
and I'm like, okay, So actually I'm signing this new
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00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.799
manager woman, and they're saying, if I turn down this now,
508
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.880
i'm'll give me huge campaigns, like quarter million for like
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00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.759
cal McLain in a year and a half. But no
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00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.680
one will take me seriously music wires if I'm a
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fucking model. So she had a half a million follows
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00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.359
on Instagram to afford this, and so she took all
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00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.759
over modeling photos down and all that shit down. They
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00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.680
just got real, started doing her own thing and it
515
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.599
all came to and it's the Shit's dope. And yeah,
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she just released a single like a week ago called
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It's Cool, and one about three weeks before that called assume,
518
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:05.160
which is fucking devastating. And her EP, The Drama just
519
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:07.880
came out about three months ago. She was released a
520
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.920
new song in about two weeks. I mean, that's how
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00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.759
it is now after the fifties, the just fucking pump
522
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.480
out tucking music. And it's like, so no more albums?
523
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:15.720
Is that? And how it works? You know? How do
524
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:17.720
you And this is my question to the youth, It's like,
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00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.480
how do you find that Amy Winehouse with that full
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00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.720
record that is, you know, back to black? You know,
527
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.640
like because in order to become eternal, I can only
528
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.519
imagine if you have to have the whole LP out,
529
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.880
whereas these kids are just pulling out songs song, EP song, song,
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00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.359
EP song, song song. And this just truly shows engages
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00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:37.200
what my age is. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.880
I don't know what the fuck is going on. Like
533
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:40.400
I wanted to put on I had this vision a
534
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.079
while ago. I'm like, just put up sucking a EP,
535
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.359
go to it, put on another EP, go to it,
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00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.319
three or four songs, but another EP, go to it.
537
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.720
Then record two more songs, put all those vps together,
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00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:50.720
add two more songs, called an album, go through revap.
539
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.359
So you actually get four spring cycles out of a
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00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.160
fucking one record, And Chris Katar Player said, no, man,
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00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.720
He's like, he's like, you got to give them one
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00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.799
more LP. You gotta give them. So that's where just finished,
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00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.400
just finished writing and fuck recording a new LP and apples.
544
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.559
I'm cutting to the fucking millennial age, dude, I'm sucking
545
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.839
put out singles and eat youth. And that's if you're
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00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.160
done putting out records.
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00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.599
So if you put out a bunch of singles, what
548
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.200
do you tour on just all of it?
549
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.079
You know what? I don't know if I haven't done
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00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.640
it yet, but I can only imagine it is like
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00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.079
the fifties and you fucking just shoot out hits one
552
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:20.920
at a time, and if you throw it against the wall,
553
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.759
if it sticks and its fucking goes super proudum, then
554
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:25.359
you get to go to her and then I don't
555
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.200
know what you do after that. But when I was
556
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.920
playing her, I'm like, you know, all your songs are
557
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.400
truly great. I'm not saying thing Daddy's like a fucking
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00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.079
great songs. And again I'm super fussy with what I think.
559
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.799
It is, all right, knocking on the greatest the worst,
560
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.519
either though, but she could be the greatest. So I'm
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00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.039
gonna make sure you get it through it. And I
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00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.319
told her few, I'm like, you know, what are you
563
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.759
gonna do? You know, because I'm like, once you have
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00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.519
one song that connects all these other songs you behind,
565
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.920
you will make sense to everyone the thing it's to
566
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.880
go over one record. So you're going to dig for him,
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00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.799
And I guess that's really not a problem in say
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day and age where it would be for me, like,
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I want to say this as to hit film on
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a record cool. I want to hear the other tracks salad,
571
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.480
And so she said she is putting into this blasting
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00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.640
peace of putting out mental dropping her full length. So
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that's where we're at in that discussing dope.
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00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.039
Now. A bunch of years ago I saw Willie Nelson
575
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and his daughter opened for him nice and then I
576
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.599
also saw Tony Bennett and his daughter opened for him.
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Is there any chance of a Daddy daughter tour?
578
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.960
Oh, I'm not sure about tour, but definitely daddy daughter
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00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.200
shows locally like Kenny or La and you actually did
580
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.519
the cover from New Undon Law Records. One of the
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songs is Feeling Lives I can do with Mac's a
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00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.119
duet with Kayla and I think people can fucking trip
583
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.599
the fuck out. But we always want to do a song,
584
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.799
but how can we do it We write a song,
585
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:37.640
or people can think that's corny as we love songs
586
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.119
father and daughter, or if people get the wrong idea.
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00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.599
And then Chris as I came in, I'm because of
588
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.279
visioned you this one song. But Mac like that's the idea,
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00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.400
that's a song. I'm like, I'm like, let's do that.
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00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.000
And they asked Calin. I said, hey, they you want
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to do the lives. I'm new on all records, like absolutely,
592
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.799
so we tracked it and another sign of how much
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00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.240
she's fucking dominant over me. You're my boy. It's all right,
594
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and then you chill and comes of this fucking trouble
595
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.799
fucking bom. It's insane.
596
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.160
And that's on the new album, the forthcoming one yeap.
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00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.880
Does that album have a name, Hey.
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00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.000
Johns, I'm not allowed to tell. Chris didn't want me
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to tell you.
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I don't know why, but no, that's cool. It's no worries.
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Got a name.
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That's really cool, man, I'm looking forward to that shit. Hey,
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three rounds plus maybe a tiebreaker for each game. Like
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when me and my family played, there was four of
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us and it took forty five minutes to an hour,
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friends too. Remember the game is called you Know It
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and it's a blast. Let's get back into it. Why
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did you start playing guitar to.
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Teach my guitar players how to write more than a
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three and four chord progression?
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Really?
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Is that?
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Why?
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Yeah? So we recorded, you know, we had the six
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song demo, then we did the blur of seven inch,
661
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and we did a couple of seven inches on a
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first indie label called Red Eye. Like I said, I
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told you before I was in a band, and I
664
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was like, I started writing music when I was like
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twelve and thirteen. We didn't know what I was doing,
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but I figured out how to make things sound happy
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and sad. I know it's not meanting, but what it
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meant was major and minor. And then within that I
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00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.360
learned how to make things lift. Like when I was
670
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creating music back then, when I was scrolled fifteen fourteen,
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I would I was like this kind of creepy, spooky
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vibe and then I like could go into big fucking
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how you doing, I'm happy and whatever. So I keep
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everything minor and then uh, for the course I'd opened up.
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And so when I was an unwritten law, and they
676
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would give me songs to write to at some points
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00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.679
to become kind of hard and so so I had
678
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.840
to learn how to play guitar to learn what they
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were doing, so I could play an instrument. It was
680
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quite easy to transfer over from guitar to gutar. And
681
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.840
what had happened was is is we'd written these songs
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and then we'd know were going in to do our
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full length. And so I wrote three songs for a
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Blue Room Music and Everything, and that was CPK, Suzanne
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and Shallow. Those were the first three songs wrote from
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a low musically, but at that time I had I
687
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.760
to leave those though the stronger songs on that album.
688
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.360
But CBK was the first one I wrote. And I
689
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.639
literally this is a fun fact, is I was trying
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to describe to our guitar player Robber at the time
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what I meant by more than three or four chords
692
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at a time in writing. So I was fucking watching TV,
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00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:43.960
and what I would kind of do is to keep
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my chops up as whatever's on TV. I just kind
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of play along too. And what had happened was the
696
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:53.880
Charter hospital commercial on we have problem with drugs, they
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come to hospital and we'll fucking help you out, and
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everything great, and like some kind of old fucking song
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from like the sixteen hundred or something. But I took
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that and I took that and I sped it up
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and then I put a chorus on it, and then
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I modulated for the bridge, and then I came back
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00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:18.719
down for a double egged chorus. And that was how
704
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.039
CDK was written. I was written just to show them
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how to write songs with more than three or four chords,
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and that's kind of where I went from there. Did
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that nighted shallow, and then since I didn't know I
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could write a song, so I wrote Baby Mama to them.
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That's hilarious. My mom used to work a Charter probably
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around that time.
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Oh wow, okay, cool, Yeah.
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That's awesome. There was a commercial where it was a
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Charter commercial and this dad found his kids stash of
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weed under his bed and he was like, where did
715
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.920
you learn this? Where did you get this? And I
716
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:55.719
learned it by watching you, right, that's hilarious. About thirty
717
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:57.679
years ago or so, I saw the Cult do a
718
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.000
show in Ian Astbury introduced a song by saying this
719
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.280
next song makes all the guys in the audience want
720
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.039
to fuck each other in the ass, and then they
721
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.000
played Firewoman, and then they only got about halfway through
722
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.119
before they stopped playing it and just started a new one.
723
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.119
And then a few years later I saw Pantera and
724
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.440
they started to play Cemetery Gates and then stopped and
725
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.920
then Phil said, fuck you, San Antonio, We're not playing
726
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.199
that stupid fucking song.
727
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:21.960
Wow.
728
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.719
Is there an unwritten law song that everybody loves but
729
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.039
that you're sick of playing?
730
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:32.320
Yeah? Yeah there is. Man, there's a whole bunch of them.
731
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.440
I mean, there's a bunch of songs were great that
732
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:35.760
I had to play so many times and now I
733
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.639
was like fucking hate playing them. And there's some songs
734
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.199
that were as a songwriter. Now I remember this time
735
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.199
we had to go to them. We're going to go
736
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.119
to Australia to do the Black Record and its entirety,
737
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.760
and I hadn't listened to so many songs. Man, I
738
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.480
listened to a record in fifteen years, so I never
739
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.360
getting the music and even like some of the songs
740
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.320
I listened to the record, I don't remember the whole
741
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.679
entire song, let alone the lyrics. And I'm like, what
742
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.079
is this to me? And so remember sitting and listening
743
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.400
to that record and training up the lyrics and reading
744
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.000
and going, oh my god, I can't do this, and
745
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.199
I started cheering up. I called Chris. I'm like, hey, man,
746
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.079
I don't believe in the shit. I can't do it.
747
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.599
I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this tour.
748
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.519
I can't do I don't believe any songs. And he goes, dude,
749
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.119
do you understand these This record was a moment in
750
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.239
people's lives, especially in Australia. You have to do the record.
751
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.519
People will be so grateful for it. Just do it.
752
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.159
And somehow I got through it and there's like three
753
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.159
songs and I was like, fuck, man, it's not it
754
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.199
doesn't not mean anymore, you know what I'm saying. And
755
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.000
some of them that were I did feel I'm like,
756
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:39.400
oh my god, I did feel that way. I did
757
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.480
have fucking angst back then, you know, and and confrontation
758
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.119
and all that shit, and I don't have that anymore
759
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.800
for me. Like playing music now, it's the real thing.
760
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.960
It's like not a show. It's not a fucking like
761
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.840
bells and whistles and whatever, like I think it. Music
762
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.760
should be delivered from the heart, and so like playing
763
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.599
songs that I don't agree with or don't see the
764
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.719
same way anymore, really was kind of trying on me. However,
765
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.559
I did do that tour. It made so many people
766
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:11.480
fucking happy, and we came back and we did it entirety.
767
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:13.320
Then we did that in the United States and it
768
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.559
kind of worked and it kind of happened, and it
769
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.840
may me believe in in the brand, you know again,
770
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.400
which is which is lovely. And then it made me
771
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.159
believe in like find things in life and music, and
772
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.400
so I can kind of separate except what my brain
773
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.639
does to kind of compartmentalize the things and separate things
774
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.079
so I can figure everything out.
775
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.440
Well, I think that's a really good point. After a while,
776
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.039
you get tired of your stuff, but the audience doesn't,
777
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.039
So I think that probably, I mean, obviously I'm not
778
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.880
a musician, much less a touring one, but I would
779
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.119
imagine that at some point you have to sort of
780
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.840
have a come to Jesus meeting with yourself about making
781
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.239
yourself happy with the music you're playing versus making your
782
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.639
audience happy with the music that they want to hear.
783
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.519
So how do you deal with that struggle?
784
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.000
Well, that's what I think it is. You have the
785
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.400
competition with yourself, and there's a line you draw with yourself.
786
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.480
Some songs are simply unacceptable to play live, and in
787
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.360
some songs you you're giving it to for the fans
788
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.360
because you know they've been waiting for five years to
789
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:18.760
get that song. You know you haven't played it in
790
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:20.480
ten years in that city, and say it's time to
791
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.800
play that song. And that's what you do. You kind
792
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.840
of just do. Like before it was all kind of
793
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:29.039
about me, I guess, and now and this was last
794
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.599
like probably six seven years of touring, I've definitely given
795
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.440
it back to the people and given them what they
796
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.239
want to hear, what they're coming to see. Because again
797
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:41.159
I now see the vision of kind of time traveling
798
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.599
and music being a snapshot and peoples live and the
799
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.519
joy it is to go run mess about.
800
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.320
Those things in times that's beautiful. How do you think
801
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.280
Scott Russo and Unwritten Law have left their mark on
802
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.519
music in general? Or do you think that?
803
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.800
I mean, I don't know if people want to stand
804
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.760
like fast out the Africa. That's learned is that it's
805
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.920
not for me to say I'm just kidding a fucking
806
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.559
get into the Greek or what do I think that
807
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.719
people think?
808
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:11.960
Well, I mean, what do you want your legacy to be?
809
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.840
I guess kind of pun uck. I want to be
810
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.559
someone remembered to fucking never conforming to someone's ways or beliefs,
811
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.480
are bullying or tucking anything, and always sticking to I
812
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.559
want and being happy in that space. You know what
813
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.800
I'm saying, That's what I want and that's what I
814
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.480
want to kind of teach other musicians, I guess, and
815
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.480
show other up and turning musicians that the music is
816
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.880
very special. Music is fucking pure. It's like it's something
817
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.559
the only pure form of magic. So I think it
818
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.599
can actually change your fucking vibe, ceiling without even deem
819
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.760
of touch or sea anything. It's fucking it's not tangible
820
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.639
and it still can adjust everything in your body. And
821
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.400
so I wish I had this knowledge back then. Because
822
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.760
I had. You know, I'm quite sure we burned all
823
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.880
our own bridges like we've been. It would have been
824
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.159
a lot further along. Uh you know, if we would
825
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.480
have been so fucking gnarledge our bandon's narlag But then
826
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.760
it was the true really a headache for promoters and
827
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.280
managers and tour managers, and so you beat each other
828
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.320
up on stage, and the other bands up, the beat
829
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.639
security up, like we're just fucking heavy and like now
830
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.079
in the stage of my life, if I would have
831
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.639
just like kind of been cool and not so selfish,
832
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:17.440
I think I would have a lot more to say
833
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.320
about what place I left on music. I want to
834
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.199
make sure I leave the place because my kids doing
835
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.320
everything dad to do. It was dope. It always stuck
836
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.639
to his guns and about it sort.
837
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.440
Of living out loud on your own terms and everybody
838
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.280
knowing that it worked out well.
839
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.679
I I don't care whatever because what everybody thinks, I
840
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.960
don't care anymore. It's like I'm you know, I'm forty
841
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.440
seven years old, I had three beautiful children. I fucking
842
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.719
I live in Mexico, like like open Cofee retired Rick.
843
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.039
I make music for a living and I write songs
844
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:49.960
for people, and I have, you know, a nice place
845
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.599
to do that. That's kind of like it's not really
846
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.320
about a race, Like I'm out of the race now,
847
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.119
so that feels it really feels good now come to
848
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.360
I write. I like to believe I write a pretty
849
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.719
good songs. It's like you never know when I'm you're
850
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.760
going to have that other one. I know, Wan the
851
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.039
New Undt Long Record, we got some real fire. I
852
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.079
know that Wade has his only project it's Realen had
853
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.280
some real fire. I know I have another project in
854
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.280
Mexico at Feneral, which has some real fire to it.
855
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.880
What's kind of cool about being forty seven and complacent
856
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:20.079
is I guess hit the best first. I'm not on
857
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:24.000
a fucking race anymore. I'm not fucking competing. I'm competing
858
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.719
with myself and I think that's how music should have
859
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.360
always been for me and probably should always be for everybody.
860
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.320
And feels good along the line.
861
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.480
Yeah, why Mexico?
862
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.280
Why in Mexico? Have you been here?
863
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.039
I have? It was a long time ago, but I
864
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.760
mean people go there to visit. What made you move there?
865
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.360
My kids are all growing up and out of the house.
866
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.079
Forty seven years old, and you know, I was living
867
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.880
in San Francisco and you were paying my twenty fucking
868
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.320
eight hundred for a one bedroom and I'm in San Diego.
869
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.920
I'm playing fucking twenty six hundred third fucking one bedroom
870
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.199
like it's insane. And I was on this tour with
871
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.639
the Offspring two summers ago and this band, those Kungklu
872
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.360
Monkeys from Mexico was opening. We were playing, you know,
873
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.440
second strung Out and Offspring of whoever was in there
874
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.440
was Kungklu Monkeys opening and throughout the tour. It came
875
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.119
out to these dudes and they're like, hey man, you
876
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.679
know from Tijuana, which is the border, it's at sister City,
877
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.039
the San Diego Antom. We drop in the music. We'd
878
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:20.800
really love to play CPK with you. That's all I'm
879
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.719
telling from Loom. You know, our band has been playing
880
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:25.679
the song for fucking twenty years. We love you guys.
881
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.800
We do a reggae version of it, like yeah, cool,
882
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.639
we'll do like you know some last days this tour
883
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.159
will do it. So they did it with us. It
884
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.320
was great. Became friends with them. One of the dudes
885
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.599
in the bands, I came in out of a house
886
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.519
in beach house in Tijuana. Everyone to get away and
887
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:40.679
fucking country, go out of the house. You know yours
888
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.480
cut the six months later went down there, stated his house.
889
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.920
He was on tour the fucking dufil fell in love
890
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.880
with the town. And everything is just fucking dope here.
891
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.679
And across the borders I can see the boyder the
892
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.480
borders a mile away. Granted, it is a little dangerous here,
893
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.400
so you can't go walking on the beach at nighttime
894
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.679
and you can't see an entitled American. You know, this
895
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.599
is the third world country, so got to kind of
896
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.440
play by the rules and you can go all right,
897
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:04.960
but you know, everything's a fourth of the price here,
898
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.159
like fucking other than a beachfront penthouse. I don't pay
899
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.800
a lot for it and gated and everyone in my
900
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.320
in my building is America. And you know the food
901
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.800
here is not processed. You know, food is the fourth
902
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.039
of the price here. It's just for me. It's a
903
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:21.079
better feeling, it's a better living. It's very honest here.
904
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.039
And if you're a fucker, you to get your card
905
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.840
pools here. You're just cool and you fucking do one
906
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.760
with the people and they're untitled, and you call the rules,
907
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.119
and you're gonna be go all right down here. Again.
908
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.719
It's a terrible country though, so it's really what you're
909
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.079
capable of dealing with. And after traveling the worlds my
910
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.480
whole life, I know how to kind of blend in,
911
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:42.960
and so I came down here. I'm sorry. That was
912
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.519
a signals later then got a six months later than that,
913
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.679
Holmei's like, hey, we're doing any record, let's come from
914
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.320
these have a new record coming out to plug that,
915
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.239
I say on two songs. Actually ended up doing that
916
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.119
TPK song on the record, but reggae, and then they
917
00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.679
and I wrote a new song called Home that will
918
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:01.559
be the first single off the record. But I came
919
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.760
down here at the home's house to record while I
920
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.960
was staying here for those four days from the apartment,
921
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:08.719
coping up in the front of the building. All the
922
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.400
beach like overlooking the buck, all the water on, all
923
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.719
the water like illegally on the water like Mexico's staff.
924
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.719
So I thought open. I walked in as we're going
925
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.679
to sea one day, and I teed to find out
926
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.800
how much this place is costs the rent, and we go,
927
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.760
oh man, it's eight hundred bucks. And I'm like eight
928
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:27.960
hundred bucks from two bedroom on the ocean. I'm like,
929
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.920
y'all take it right now, and so I get a
930
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.159
gout the money. Over the course of three weekends we
931
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.599
were moving in, but apparently we were two loud and
932
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.480
moving in and they were underneath it didn't like it,
933
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.239
and you had a five year lease, and he's like, hey,
934
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.440
these guys go a lego. So within three different several weekends,
935
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.239
you were checked out. And I was like, fuck, I
936
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.119
love the States. There's a reason I'm supposed to be here.
937
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:48.800
And it turns out so I'm meant to be here
938
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.360
to the funeral, and I get to that in a second,
939
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.960
and I'm moving on with fucking I'm supposed to be here,
940
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.239
And so I a peticuts walk around the neighborhood and
941
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.239
there's anything places. And there was a place next door
942
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.119
to this place when I was moving in, like sucked.
943
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.800
I placed with so much Ballero's that kind of like
944
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.480
just looks amazing. I sold and I went there first.
945
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.559
There was no one there, so the fuck whatever, And
946
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.920
they took another friend signs, went around the town a
947
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.000
little bit. Nothing came back. She's like, hey, I'm a
948
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.760
cane and do you have me part. Friends say, oh,
949
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.440
what you're looking for? Him like, I don't know whatever.
950
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.239
One or two bad roopes. I figured it's over they had.
951
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:23.119
I say, oh, I'm sorry, we don't but we have
952
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a penthouse. You want to see that. I'm like yeah,
953
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And so she walked me upstairs. She walked upstairs. We
954
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.119
got to the first floor. It's three stories, five balconies,
955
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.480
three year over the ocean, two over the fucking over
956
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.320
the mountains behind us. It's fucking insane. I walked in
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00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.639
the first floor and I'm like, fuck, I'll take it.
958
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.559
She goes, you want to see the other floors. I'm
959
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.239
like sure, so I'll take it right now. Like here's
960
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.800
the down pain that, here's this, and I give it
961
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:48.480
the money. She's like, fuck, I love you. That's it. Boom.
962
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.800
Been here ever since, not going back, man, there's no reason.
963
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.239
How long have you been there?
964
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:55.599
I've been there for a little over a year.
965
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:56.360
Oh cool.
966
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.440
And it's dope because my family lives in San Diego,
967
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.639
and so they live on the other side of the
968
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:04.920
North side of San Diego and I basically live on
969
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.400
the south side of San Diego. So it takes us
970
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.119
at the same time to get to downtown town if
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00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.800
you want to meet or do anything. So it's just
972
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.880
where I fit. These people are my people. I love
973
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.599
it here and yeah we'll beat for a little off
974
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:17.960
for sure.
975
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.199
That's kick ass. Tell me about Elf Funeral.
976
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.920
Yes, I had a vision about making music a while back,
977
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.159
and it was basically kind of doing what Mark Watson
978
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:28.880
did with any lying out and kippies music, but what
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00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:33.320
sixties reggae like, putting like dope sixties reggae down but
980
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.360
the dope beats. It's kind of like a haunted mansion,
981
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:40.320
haunted scary sound, but scary Thurmons and she like PORTI said,
982
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.079
making pop songs and making crafty and having them a
983
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.039
sound weaver guitars and sounds very haunted mansion. What's cool
984
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.079
of this project is that I kind of had the vision.
985
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.280
I told me what to do, exactly do, and when
986
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.719
I plugged in all the things, I made a sound.
987
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:56.320
And that's what I haven't done the music yet. I
988
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.320
made a fucking sound that's mine. And then in writing
989
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.559
new songs, kind of plugging the formula to all the
990
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.880
songs and they all sound like they're meant to be
991
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.159
one piece. So I'm very excited to get the funeral
992
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.119
up and running and going. However, I want to give
993
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.440
it to Mexico first, and my band is from Mexico.
994
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.960
So I have two guys from Lows Kunkle Monkeys and
995
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.079
a long guy from hell Dandy's, which are pretty big bands,
996
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.039
and no nights. It's a stand up bass. I feel
997
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:21.960
like it's trying to sing Holme perky dart and sing
998
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:26.360
and Homie plays drums and spooky. It's cool. It's they've
999
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:29.079
had a beach cop vibe, weaverb kind of reggae, kind
1000
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.639
of scab beats. It's cool. Duffing around coming.
1001
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:34.920
Are you allowed to tell me when that's coming?
1002
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.920
I just don't know yet because quite honestly, you're getting
1003
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.360
ready to go in the studio right as we're finishing
1004
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:41.880
at the Unwritten Law Record. I was getting back to
1005
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:47.280
Australia and then a fucking coronavirus hit and so we've
1006
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.039
been as they're like, you know right now, like I
1007
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.360
have kind of playing postal service. So I have the
1008
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.599
drummer Hecky from ros Arito. I just wrote something this morning,
1009
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.519
played it from on the phone, one hundred and fifteen bpms.
1010
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.199
Give me a couple of loops sent them in me.
1011
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:02.840
So I was kind of being like postal service ship
1012
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.400
and she sent me some ship. I send it back,
1013
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.679
We build it, build a build a build god boom
1014
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.480
the new ship. So now we have about five songs, gotcha,
1015
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.119
and I want to put it for this ship. I
1016
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.119
am going to do like the modern age. I gonna
1017
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.000
put it on the EP. I'm gonna put out whatever,
1018
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.199
and then put out singles, EP singles, tour, play shows,
1019
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.239
and again I'm getting old. I'm not trying to fucking
1020
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.480
tour all the time. Of the vacation tour. I'll go
1021
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.079
to I want to go, but I'm not going to
1022
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:27.880
go try out and kill myself or nothing.
1023
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.760
Well, especially if home is a penthouse on the beach,
1024
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:33.639
why would you want to leave that?
1025
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.400
Not for real? That you know what I'm saying, Like
1026
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.639
for real, and that's that's really what's up. And so
1027
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:41.360
I don't like to leave here. I never leave here.
1028
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.400
So the coronavirus a killing people, It's like my life
1029
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.800
really hasn't changed. So I can't see my family and
1030
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.320
hug them, and that's fucking really depressing me. Other than that,
1031
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.199
it's I kind of in the same life, you know, exercise,
1032
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:56.920
make music, cook, make music, eat, make music, go to
1033
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.760
seet that's her repeat. And so I remember the first
1034
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.000
time I was leading to go on sure and I
1035
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.639
was like, I don't need Why am I eating Mexico
1036
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:06.679
through the United States? And that, like, you know, like
1037
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.320
it sounds terrible.
1038
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:12.360
You gotta do a word true. Well, I know that
1039
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.079
time is limited and I feel like I've kept you forever.
1040
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:20.079
Scott Russo from Unwritten Law and el Funeral and all
1041
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.320
kinds of other stuff, Man, thank you so much for
1042
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.079
taking the time out of your busy day to hang
1043
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:25.360
out and let us get to know you a little
1044
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.760
bit better on Fascination Street Man. I really appreciate it.
1045
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:29.880
Oh very good, my man. It's too easy.
1046
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.880
Oh rock on. Well you take it easy and stay safe, man,
1047
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:37.800
don't touch nobody out there, all right, all right? Bye?
1048
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As always, thanks for listening, street Walkers, and don't forget
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00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:50.239
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1050
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:55.360
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1051
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.280
at Fascination Street Podcast, and of course you can always
1052
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:02.800
email me at the Fascination Street Pod at gmail dot com.
1053
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.000
And if you haven't already, don't forget to hit the
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like and subscribe button and rate us on iTunes.
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Opening music is the song Magnolia from the twenty fourteen
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album In Transigence, used with permission from Douglas Miley Clark.
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Closing music is Apollo from the two thousand and one
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album Into the known by the bands Sapphire. Thanks for
1059
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:34.840
hanging out with us and getting to know.
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A little bit about our guest.
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We'll see you next time on Fascination Street.