Conscious Rapper/Musician/Writer/Producer/Educator Grammy Nominated Jason D Harris

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The red button. So okay, so you know we're hanging out.
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We have Kristen with us. How are you?
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I'm wonderful.
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How are you?
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Guys? How do you listen to each other?
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Oh? My gosh. We go way back and we met
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in the network in networking. So I'm a financial advisor,
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she's an insurance person, and we met and we have
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been hanging out ever since.
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So we hang out thousand and eleven, two eleven, two thousand,
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we go back. Yeah, we're like, yeah, we're tell we
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came together as like business networking, but that's so not
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the reason why we we hang out and love each other.
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Christin's awesome and we support each other in business. Yes,
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but she's like one of my, you know, best best friends.
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So it's exciting here. I don't know how why it
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took you so long to get here? All you my bad,
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it's all me. I'm so glad you're here with us today.
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I think it's a It's interesting because I've heard about
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you on this podcast, and I've heard about James so much,
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and now I get to see him in person. So
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are on zoom?
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So what's funny? Because I was saying we're the same way.
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I mean we met through insurance obviously and then became friends.
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So I love how jobs can bring you together. But
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see we go way, we go, way, way way back.
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We were young once when James and I knew each.
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Other, well we both we both had dark hair.
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There was we knew each other.
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But it's so funny. I think about what I think
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about that For a second though, I was like, you
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knew me through several hairstyles, of course, a bunch of hairstyles,
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and and we met through work, like literally through work.
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It was it was through it was a situation. It
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was a situation through through a conference, and that's how
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we met. And you never know that, you know this
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two kids, I'm sure, Well you never know what you're
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a group of people. You never know who's going to
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connect with you, like they're just your to group people,
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and it's like ahi hi hi hi hi. And then
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somehow another we just kind of gravitated toward each other.
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And there's certain people like gravitated towards I'm still friends
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with that group too. That just kind of it just
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says weird how that works, right, Because you don't know,
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you can't plan it, so you don't know like I'm
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gonna come in. I see homegirl over there. She's gonna
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be my friend for next twenty something year, twenty some years.
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You don't plan that, right, you don't plan that some
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good thing. You guys are talking like thirteen years.
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Yeah, Kristin, it's at all.
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Is that crazy?
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It's it's crazy. And then to think about, you know,
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just all the things that have evolved, like even when
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we're sucking covid, we still kept in touch, checked in
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on each other. You know, it's just there's just those
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people that you can reallyconnect with and it's like you
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just talked to them yesterday.
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That's very true. And COVID that was that was one
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of those weird, outlying things that happened. That was like, Okay,
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we're not getting together anymore. We won't be we won't
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be at gatherings anymore. So this is a weird thing.
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It's like, like what do we do now, Well, we're
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on zooms, we're on stream yards, we're on Microsoft teams,
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or you just didn't talk, you just didn't together. And
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then time past and now about this everything opened back
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up and she started getting reacquainted again. It's interesting, you know,
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I got to I. I always kept a touch here
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and there, but I then it got more reacquainted because
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of COVID, also because I got that I got the
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gig with the insurance insurance but Ivy CAW when they
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hired me to the podcast, and.
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I was president at the time. So I got this
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email about, hey, you know James Blott Junior and podcast
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and we'd like you to do it with him, and
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I'm like, oh, yes, I was.
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Shocked when you told me you were doing a podcast
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because like, you don't strike me as the person that
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just that you would be drawn to that, you know,
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because it was when you told me that, I was like, Wow,
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that's really going outside of your comfort zone.
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Well, you know, the funny thing is because in business,
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I'm sorry, Keema is literally knocking on my door right now.
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She's distracting me, which I won't let her in. She
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does not need to make another appearance on that. But
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apparently she likes it.
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He hears you, Yeah, she hears you.
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She hears all the voices, and she's like, I want
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to say that I lost track of what I was.
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I thought it was outside of your comfort zone.
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So it was remember, James, you could you could go
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back to our very first couple shows, and it was
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when I had the office, I was not working on it,
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and I'm like, shoulders are a little tense. Everything's very
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serious and tense. And I said to James, I don't
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know what to do on this. What you know? And
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he walked the professional ones were professional, and we decided
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because before we did the professional we talked for like
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forty minutes just our banter. So I said, this is
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our show. We were planning to do member insurance segments.
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Yes, we were, Oh my god, it's right, planning.
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On doing insurance segments. I'm like, you know, this is
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really our show together. So that's how it was born.
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Of us, of the show. They are fans, Ok.
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It's fantastic, But the whole concept of James and I
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reconnecting and start, like you said, Kristen, starting off where
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we left off so naturally, and you know, we were
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just keeping it going. So it's a beautiful thing. And
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you're right, your friend like me as cop podcast. What
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look at me now, Kristin. I know, I'm so impressed.
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I seriously am.
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Like I when I watched the other episodes, I was like, Wow,
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she's really got this down.
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I do well, James. It's totally James mentorship.
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You know what. It goes back to almost and not
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nervous nessie Chris, Chris Kirsten. I like to say, Kristen's okays, Kristen.
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Kristen is bringing something up that I did there allowed for.
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It almost goes back to our first exchange when you
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had to speak, Oh god, I'm there to guide you
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go too.
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Yeah, so there was and now I can do so
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funny how far we come, I know, so I think,
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And and Kristen being in in finance, you know, money management,
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finance and in all that financial advisement space, she's amazing,
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by the way, folks, she understands what I'm about to say.
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So Kristen reverse back.
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I don't know.
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I was in my mid thirties, I think. And I
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had to go and just literally announce the presenter for U.
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And I was.
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I was so panicked. And James came over and he said, listen, girl,
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you got this. Okay, you got this. You're gonna be great.
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I said, James, I'm so afraid to make mistake. He says,
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no one's listening. It's like, you know, it's like nine
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o'clock in the morning, everyone's out partying late. Don't worry
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about you got this. You got this, you know what
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to say. Just go up there. If you would have
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to read it, just read it, but do it. And
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I did it. And it was like James helped me
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through that moment. I've all and I have historically given
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him credit for that. Like that was when we connected,
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like he was there to help me and he was great.
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He had the right words, the right energy, and I
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went in there like I'm bossed, and then I'm like,
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oh shit, I'm up here.
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And then you I did it and what happened like
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you would then?
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Yeah, fast forward all the time. I mean, so the
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James has seen a progression, right, James is always James.
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James has not changed since day one that I've met him,
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because he was always very outgoing and fun and he
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just attracted this great energy to the room and then
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everyone goes to James. Right, So James has matured, of course,
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but he's always been James. I have evolved and James
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is a big part of that.
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That's amazing.
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So that's how that's how we started. Yeah, I was
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panicked and he helped me.
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Yeah, so Christen, so you say that kind of I'm like,
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maybe he goes, wait a minute, it actually being back
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to you know, to twenty something years ago and that
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conference and was it Modtere.
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No it was it was Napa.
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Napa Napa, Yeah it was Napa. I'm sorry it was Napa.
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I'm being flashback now all of a sudden, and and
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now to now I've seen her just like because well
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she's just a podcast like you want really like you
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you want really? I said, I was like, what, but
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you know what, that's easy, Breezy. We're not doing We're
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not doing anything. We're not doing the groundbreaking. It's like
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it's just kind of like we come on last year.
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If we're talking to you and you're here visiting us.
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That's what we do, and people love that. We go
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from re range from conversation.
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Yeah, we can get pretty serious.
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Or I've tried on the a couple of times emotional,
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or we've laughed really hard. We have some great guests
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on here who just don't mean you just on her side,
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and I saw who just that's it. You just do
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something and laugh. They're hilarious. And but it's one of
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those things, you know, all about you. I mean it's
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we're being our last times not being social. Are you
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a very social person? You're like, are you Do you
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find it as you get older harder to be social.
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I think I'm very social and actually I call to
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that to be social. And then you know, and I
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see like the clients that are aging and you know,
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aging up, they when they do commit to that so
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social community, there's so much better off. Like I mean,
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you know, there's all these fifty five and over communities
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and things like that, and I've actually gone to tour them.
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The social aspect of it is off the rails. Like
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there's ones that are super bougie, you know, where they
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have wine bars and coffee bars and like i mean
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winelockers and all this stuff. And I mean you literally,
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like you step into these fifty five and hour communities
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and you're like in a country club or a resort
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area and it's like every day is a resort. But
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I do think people live longer. I think there's a
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lot of oops. I think there's a lot of behind that.
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If you have that social and you keep that social
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going in your life, you're gonna live way longer before
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even like make healthy choices. I think you can eat
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chocolate old every day and be social and you'll probably
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live to be one hundred. I don't know, that's my theory.
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I love it.
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I do.
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I love it, the chocolate part especially.
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It's funny for me. And this is so weird. My
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love of chocolate is changing.
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Oh, how is that even possible?
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It's weird. I'm not I'm I'm eating less sweets than
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I used to was. Oh, I'm noticing, period. I'm really
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I really like food. Like I'm not a I'm not.
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I've never been a snacker. I'm not a snacker. O
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I have Let's see, I got some I have, like
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these cycle peaches. That's not exciting. It's like I was
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like a but it's good. That's what I have. I
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eat Murray once in a while. I think it's a
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pumpkin muffin from Dunking Donuts this morning. I'll have you know,
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it's fall almost but.
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You know muffins are morning cake.
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So that's exactly. So I like. I like pastries. I'm
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a huge donut freak. I like donuts all kinds. But
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when it.
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Comes yeah, like, what's your the best donut you've ever had?
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In your life.
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That's a great Oh my god, that great question. Okay,
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Well I can tell you out of my whole life.
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I can tell you what one of the best I've
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ever had in my life. Voodoo Donuts, Yes, spent Oregon.
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I want to the port Orgon there's one and also
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a universal Portant Oregon. And it was their bacon maple bar.
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Wow.
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And I gotta tell you, I'm trying to find the
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PG versus saying this, But I had a donut gas.
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I ate it and I was like, I remember I've
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been into it and I was like, that's real bacon,
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Like that was feel live. The pig was out back,
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they slaughtered it, put it on my my bond donut
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and I'm tasting the pork and then I go, is
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this maple from Canada? Does it taste like real? Like
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it was? And it was juicy, and it was like
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I was like, I literally stood there at Voodoo Donuts
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out in Oregon. I need a moment to myself. I
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needed a moment to myself and that's and I will
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never forget that feeling. So to ask you a question, Kristin,
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that was that was I guess.
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I don't think I can top that, how about you, Kristin.
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I don't think I can top that.
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were at a financial conference. Of course, sometimes we decide
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to just go off, you know, off off the whole
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property and we found this, you know, donut shop. I
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don't even remember the name of it, but it was
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it was those donuts that have all the layers, like
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the thousands of layers in them, and I had never
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had one of those, so it's almost like a cross
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between like a croissant and a donut. And I think
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it was not my daughter's donuts that that it was,
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and and it was and we went there at like midnight,
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right so you know, they were just bringing out some
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of the fresh doughnuts and so you were getting that.
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That's the whole thing about I think about the donut
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is it has to be like just bait. Oh, really
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get the full Like if you just bite out the
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store it's or it's been sitting on the shelf, it's
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just not it's not appealing as if it was fresh.
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Well that's how Krispy Kreme I think, really stood out
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between you know from the rest is they promised a
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warm doughnut and damn do they deliver.
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Oh you grab it. You can't have the little conveyor belts.
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I'll take one of us. Oh melts in your mouth. Yeah,
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I know.
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It's especially logical too, like you see it and you
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and you see that it's fresh, you just gravitate towards it.
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It's crazy.
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But I live on the corner from Randy Randy.
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Yes you do. I was just there. I still haven't
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had one yet.
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I go there all the time. My daughters love it,
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but they come to la A love it. So my
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favorite is the apple printer. So I'm being able to
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it's like the size of my head and it's like
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real apples. It takes like three but I'm like, I
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will not at it, not at it. I just but
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it comes to sweets though, I just I don't eat
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can anymore really, and I don't beat like chocolate. I
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just kind of I've kind of as i've gotten older,
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I for myself, you know, a way from it more.
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And I'm like, it's a love chocolate all the time.
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I mean, it was like pouring all over me. I
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was eating it, but no, not anymore. I was like, yeah, okay,
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but don't change.
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Well, I think chocolate, like I mean, if you get
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a really good piece of chocolate, like saying in Europe
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or you know, out of the country, like, and then
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you come back here and you eat the chocolate here,
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you're like, that's true, that is.
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True, the same.
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I'm actually live in Pennsylvania there, Hershey, Pennsylvania, so of
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course they tout their chocolate, so it's Hershey. But you're right.
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My family's from Holland and I go there and it's
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like this chocolate, it's way different and way better. Well,
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don't I don't tell me people, it's kind of crazy.
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Crazy chocolate. I love chocolate. I don't care where it's from.
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I don't care the you know, the name on the app. Yes,
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some are better than others, but just line it up,
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you know, just line it up. And I'd like to
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go back to the donut thing for a second, because
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Winchell's donuts even far between now, but when I was
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in high school, Winchell's were everywhere, and they, in my
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humble opinion, because apple fritter my favorite. Two James, oh,
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but there's nothing quite like a cinnamon rule too. And
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Wenchell's on the corner of Nordoff and hass School Woodley.
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Sorry Nordoff and Woodley. They used to make the best
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cinnamon role and as a as a teenager, just map
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down on it like there was no days of gnawing
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on it. For me, it was gone in like three minutes. Yeah,
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and then you get the middle.
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That's like super soft.
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Yes.
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Now, let me ask you a question about the middle.
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Do you eat it first or do you save it
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for last?
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Last?
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I ate it first.
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I was last. I switched. I would always save it,
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and I thought, what am I doing eat the best
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part first, because by the time I got to the
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best part, I wasn't as hungry and into it because
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I'd eat through the rest of the rings. So I
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switched later on in life.
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Well, here's a question for you. I'm a big muffin
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top person. Yes, so I eat the muffintop first.
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Yes, I literally take it off of the cake part
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and eat first, and if I can get to the
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cake part. If I don't, I'm not disappointed. Okay, how
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about you, Kristen?
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No, I agree? I agree the muffin top is I mean,
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like when we were talking about the apple fritter with
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the memory that came back was because I grew up
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in midwest, so Michigan, so we have that apple cider,
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you know apple farms.
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Where you go pike or apple.
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So like during the fall, it's a really simple donut.
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It's just a cake donut and a hot cider, and
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I like, I can't compare any I mean, it's very simple,
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doesn't have the bacon and all that on it. But
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it's just that aroma and that smell of like a
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cider and the very simple cake donut that brings me
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back to my childhood. I mean it's you can't get
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that here in California.
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Actually, no, simple's fine.
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I was just I was Indiana. I love it in
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rural Indiana. I love it. No, I mean, you're right,
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And it's funny how certain because Simon Rolls in me
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remind me of cin Rolls and coffee. I think we
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went good with coffee. Certain doughnuts go good with coffee,
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Like I think myself's around coffee, and so I remember that.
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And Sill Rolls were like this thing you can get
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and then you just you break it up and you
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have coffee with it. And I was like a if
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you could get coffee cake, I remember of coffee cake
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too is good. But that was like a rarity that
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was at all the time, and Winchells was the place something.
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Winchells was the it was. They were everywhere.
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I mean I was just going right up to the
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window yep, and then displays were like slanted, so you
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got it this really good view and I want that one. No, no, no,
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that go over one. Yes, that's mine. I was that
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person and people behind me are like, Jesus, just get
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your donut and go.
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Yeah, now it's dumb donuts and so and So's donuts.
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Everybod everybody got donut shops.
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Everyone has donut shops. And then like you know, if
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you're on Instagram, if you if you click on one
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of those you know, fancy donut shops maybe in Sandegre
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or something, then you just get like ten more into
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your feed and it's just torture. You're like, I want
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to go there, but it's reality.
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Well, you know, so I have tried sidecar that are
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very expensive. Sidecar Donts are a new newer chain and
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they're super super expensive. The first time I tried it
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was a Chevy at Hills by Fox Studios, and I
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went there and it was like the boxes faber, I mean,
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I like fancy. I'll be I like some bleaguan fans. Uh.
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It was ritchy, tensey and everything, the whole packaging and everything.
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And their names are like, you know, the blah blah
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blah blah blah blah and all that. The donuts sorry,
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sidecard over, you know, let's want to sponsor us. They
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were okay, like they weren't like earth shattered. They were
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just like very fancy. And you're paying I'm telling you
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you're paying like twelve dollars per donuts.
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Oh my goodness, they're very expensive.
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So now they have over seat. I live in Inglewoods.
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They have won in Cover City. They they're starting to
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bring them down here and I tell people they're they're fine,
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but they're just fancy. And so I'm like, I'd rather have,
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you know, a good old dollar donut that tastes, you know,
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melks in my mouth. I don't care where, I just
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don't care what you know, but these are these are cute.
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And so now I said, now you now you see them,
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you both will see them. They said it out loud.
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But it's called Sidecar Donuts and they're they're good. But
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they're fine. But they're fine. I just said they're just
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they're very expensive. And I was like, so once too
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that idea and just it up a bit.
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An experience, right, it's the experience.
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You know. Sometimes you and and and Christen. Sometimes I
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will go to places for the experience because I'm just
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kind of curious. There's a switching to pizza real quick.
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One of my new pizza places, you know, it's expensive.
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I'll go very often is a detailed pizzeria and only
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have two locations. When its Hollywood, I went to Peing
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and Kenyon Mall, which is my favorite, my favorite mall
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out there, girl, I love it. Far went from me.
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We drove out there and we had it and it
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was the bomb. But it's like for a couple of slices,
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it's it's like twenty four to twenty five dollars but
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literally but no, but literally it melted your every It's
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it's so it's it's like fresh pizza sauce that just
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I mean, it's like it's the pepperoni again. They killed
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the person out back and they sliced it up and
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put it on your pizza. Like it's it's like it
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tastes that fresh, and it's it's it's like almost like
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eating air. It's the crust is so light and airy
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and flavorful that we went for the experience, and so
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we saw it on Instagram. We went for the experience. Yes,
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you're right, this pizza is super good. But you just
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go like three times a year all the time spender
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the pan Cae mall so far away from where I live,
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but we love that mall is We just love it
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because it's so huge.
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It's a great mall, great.
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Mind, it's a great mine. It's everything there is, a
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grand's a great mall. It's split into the village part
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of the other one, but I love it. Wait wait, wait,
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wait where do you live? Or I mean, don't tell
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us where you live exactly, but where's what city.
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Are I'm Invura County, So like oh wow, okay, yeah,
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so I'm out. I mean, it's not that far. It's
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about forty five minutes back into Paninga into its Panga mall.
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But I mean that mall is probably way better than
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any of the malls around us. I mean, we have,
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you know, different malls, but it seems like it's kind
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of out here, you know, shops are going in and out,
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you know, pretty much a lot.
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I would think. I think cama Real, Yeah.
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Yeah, Camerio.
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I mean the temperature here because I know you guys
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talked about temperature, but the temperature here is nicer. When
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you start going towards that, you know, came rio area
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kind of over the hill. I think I gravitated towards
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this area because in the Midwest, I mean, you just
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came back from the Midwest, and you have a little
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bit more space between the houses. You know, you're not
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on top of each other. You have kind of a
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little bit more greenery. Because in the valley it's I
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think it's great. It's there's a lot of great places,
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but it's it's pretty congested for me, Like it gives
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me in the traffic, I don't know.
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I mean, we have traffic out here, but the traffic
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in the valley is frendous. I can say it I
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look here, but I have to say I have to say,
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I'm like, I think I'm a really good driver now
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because like in the Midwest, I mean, you just came
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from the Midwest.
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Like the highway only has two lanths, right, Like you're
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on a main highway and when you're driving two hours.
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You're literally driving two hours in that mileage. Like here,
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you could be just going ten miles and be in
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the car for two hours, but you're on eight lane highway.
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So I mean, think about someone coming from a two
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lane highway to an eight lane highway. It's like an
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experience in itself. But now I've been here long enough
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that it's just normal. And I go back to the
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Midwest and I'm like, is this a highway or a
478
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.240
country road? What are we doing here? Or like the
479
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.039
gravel roads? You know, we don't have any gravel roads.
480
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.000
I was on one a month ago in rural in
481
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.920
rural Data, Indiana, I was on a gravel road. I'm like,
482
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.839
what are we doing? It said, turn this way. I'm like,
483
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.839
where are we all these corse killed? It's like odd, well, and.
484
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.119
I asked them because you know, like here, you know,
485
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.200
you go out, you have a good night, you know whatever,
486
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:54.720
you were friends, you take an uber home, right, you're responsible.
487
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.440
They don't have ubers there, so so their whole thing
488
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:01.599
is they ride the gravel road because they can feel it.
489
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:03.640
So if they're a little bit.
490
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.359
Like, you know, tipsy or something.
491
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:08.039
Like that, they're on that gravel road for a reason.
492
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.319
They don't want to be on the main highway, but
493
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:11.920
but they can feel it and they stay on the road.
494
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.359
And I thought, oh, that's quite a concept. I never
495
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.720
thought of that was the purpose of the gravel roads
496
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:20.000
in the Midwest. I just thought it was because it's
497
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.680
a rural area. But that's what they use as transportation
498
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.400
when they go out at night, because they don't have ubers.
499
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:30.000
Like, ah, no ubers. I found no door dash, no grub.
500
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.119
I was like, it goes here's one Chinese place that delivers.
501
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.519
I'm like, oh my god, that's hilarious to me. I
502
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.519
just never yeah, interesting, And.
503
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.720
They don't have a Starbucks on every corner. They don't
504
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.039
have a Starbucks on every corner.
505
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.519
No, it does tie back, James to what we were
506
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:50.559
talking about on our earlier session about the slower pace
507
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.200
not in a big city. You absolutely have to adjust
508
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.720
to what do you mean, I can't order up my
509
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.960
food and have it delivered to my you know, like,
510
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.680
how does that even happen in this world? Yeah, there
511
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.359
are lots and lots of places where you know, if
512
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.000
you don't have it to cook, you're gonna you're gonna
513
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:11.480
go hungry.
514
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.079
That the big difference I noticed because when I travel
515
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.160
back and forth in the Midwest and the airport is
516
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.799
when you come to LA everyone is like standing one
517
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.400
inch away from the conveyor belt to get their luggage,
518
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.200
you know, or they're just like bee lying out to
519
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.559
get out. When you go to the Midwest, everyone is
520
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.359
just you could be just sitting there for like like
521
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.720
three hours waiting for your luggage. So I mean, and
522
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.799
nobody you know, complains about it or has a you know,
523
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.720
starts yelling at people, like in LA if the luggage
524
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.920
is not coming down or something. I mean, people just
525
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:49.599
start going crazy. And I mean it's a high stress,
526
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.920
you know, just going into lax and all the traffic
527
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.440
and the buses and and then you go to you
528
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:58.279
go to an airport like in Indiana or Iowa or
529
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:05.759
and you're like, wow, this is so easy.
530
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.400
I know what's fun with the Midwest. I always say
531
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:10.480
this is one of the funniest things with the Midwest.
532
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.240
When do you go to the store and I go
533
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.079
in with a purpose, I'm gonna I need to buy
534
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.359
these ten things or whatever, because either we're gonna do
535
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.119
something or whatever. You get to the conveyor belt, you know,
536
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.799
and and why is it every checker comments on your food.
537
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.359
Oh I love those beats, like these beans all the time.
538
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.039
These are really great beats, like you look greats like
539
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.759
oh yes the stream beans. Oh my god, my sister's
540
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:39.319
mother's cousin say, oh, oh my god, my favorite ice cream.
541
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.960
Like literally, they comment on all your food. They take
542
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.839
their time. No one in line says anything. Nobody's brushing you, like,
543
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.519
come on, people look at their watches. It's like literally
544
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:51.640
I just came in to come in and out and
545
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.039
I'm there for like twenty minutes actually checking out, and
546
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.039
no one who thinks of it. If anything, no one
547
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.400
says like I wanted that in La. You're like, why
548
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.960
would I take you? It was a busier there, Like, no,
549
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.079
it wasn't busier there, but Homegrowl on accounter was something else.
550
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:08.400
She's made a three bean casts role and what's to use,
551
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.359
what utensils to use? And how I was she was
552
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.039
twelve years old, you know, like it's the craziest thing.
553
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.920
It's kind of heartwarming, but it's also like, wow, I'm
554
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.559
in a hurry, and like they're not a hurry.
555
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.960
Yeah, you you definitely have to slow your role like,
556
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.559
I mean it's because you. I mean, you come across
557
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.880
if you're if you're moving at the pace we move here,
558
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.680
you come across as like being rude or like impatient,
559
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.000
and they get Yeah, I mean there's if you stop
560
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.400
and listen, you learn a lot. You pick up a
561
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.480
lot of information. I mean I I I kind of
562
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.000
was jealous, you know, when I was there, because I'm like,
563
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.200
how can they just I mean to talk about green beans.
564
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.839
I mean, if we were in the market and we
565
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.319
ran into somebody we knew, we'd probably talked some I mean,
566
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.680
we'd probably talk about something like what's happening in the world,
567
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.079
or what happened at UCLA or something like that. And
568
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:00.599
in the Midwest they're just talking about like the fair
569
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:06.720
last night, or the weather or you know the kids,
570
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.160
you know, high school baseball team or football team. It's
571
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.319
it is actually, I mean, I think it's not relaxing,
572
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.960
but less stressful. You don't have struss.
573
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.880
But it's heartwarming to me. I mean it's like it's
574
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.880
it's a change of pace. It's like it's but I
575
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.599
still have Pittsburgh, and I guess I guess Pittsburgh would
576
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.160
be the slowest either it was still a major city.
577
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.880
It was the lowest. I lived back in the North Side,
578
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:33.960
which was on a hill. I had like a little
579
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.720
kind of community up there. We all kind of knew
580
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.839
each other. That's the closest because I would go into
581
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.559
the store there, the Eco mart or whatever, and oh,
582
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.319
you know the guy who likes to hoganize ice cream, Like,
583
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.279
how do you remember that something? People come in here,
584
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.079
but I would always buy hoganized ice cream. Was summertime,
585
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.759
so he knew me. I was hogandaw's guy like, that's
586
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.880
that's kind of small town esque behavior. Well, the member
587
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.640
still puts it all tach something to you and that's
588
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.400
what you remember it as. I thought, Okay, I kind
589
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:05.839
of get it. I mean, it was it was it
590
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.240
was doing it not to be mean, it was. He
591
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.839
was just he was just like, yeah, you're the Hugabas.
592
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.599
You're like Uganas, Yes, a talk my business. Yeah, I
593
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:16.640
like Haganas. Yeah, like and you're out of cherry vanilla.
594
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.440
But no, but I found them that that's kind of
595
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.440
that's a heartwarre. It's kind of heartwarming. I mean it's
596
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.880
not it's a sense, but the thing by doing buy
597
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.720
all your business a little weird to be doing my business.
598
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:28.839
You know what I'm doing over here?
599
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.440
It is it's a it's a I think I just
600
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.920
came back from Iowa, and uh they have this, you know,
601
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.319
because here we have all this fitness craze right like,
602
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.559
so we have like a fitness studio on every corner,
603
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.599
and we have a you know, trainer every corner. So
604
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.119
they have this community gym, and but in the parking
605
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:54.240
lot of the community gym was the local dairy ice
606
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:55.319
cream custard.
607
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.000
You know, walk up, you know.
608
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.119
Like the Midwest and you get your you know, huge
609
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.240
ice cream in the parking lot of the health and fitness.
610
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:08.759
Like gym.
611
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.279
And I just I think I stopped and I was like, uh,
612
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.920
super interesting that you go work out and then you
613
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.440
walk out and there's a line all the way down
614
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.839
the street to get ice cream.
615
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.240
I mean, you see that work out.
616
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.960
You wouldn't see that in La Like, I mean, I
617
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.759
would not be an ideal location to put an ice cream.
618
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.359
They have juice bars here in the gym, you.
619
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.279
Don't they don't have the I mean in this And
620
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.359
when I say that, because I have to avoid this
621
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.640
place when I'm there, it is like the custard like
622
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.559
the you know, the the mega calorie you know, I mean,
623
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.720
it is the bomb, and they make it all like
624
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.839
you know how Derek we makes the blizzards and stuff
625
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:56.759
they like, they make like banana pudding pie like blizzard
626
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.640
with like the real bananas and the real grand like.
627
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.200
But but I always when I'm standing there, it's so
628
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:07.640
surreal because it's literally the gym and the exercise pool
629
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.960
and the walking track, and I'm like, this is so weird.
630
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.480
It's so foreign to me that they would pick this location.
631
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.920
But I guess, I mean that's what you do. You
632
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.480
work out and then you have an ice cream. We
633
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:23.359
would never do that.
634
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.279
Here, which well I would if I could. There was
635
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.640
I just skipped the gym all together and just get
636
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:33.359
the ice cream.
637
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.319
I got. IOWA all the time, do my lab do
638
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.240
your shirts setup? We still have a conference at the
639
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.319
Moine right, love my friends there, Clive de Moine, West
640
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.559
of my love it well, that was one of the
641
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.119
places where I was in time, trying to stay in shape.
642
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.200
And I remember going to dinner and saying, you know,
643
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.519
my food, I said, I didn't want any starships. I
644
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.680
was like, I said, not on any rice. I was
645
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:00.200
like the French fries breaked potato, Like, no, my doing
646
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.279
any starch. I'm not doing any starches. I'm just gonna
647
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.880
have the meat potato a meeting and vegetables you don't
648
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.480
even want, like a tato salad. I go, that's a starch.
649
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.240
I got it, like they couldn't. The concept of me
650
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:17.079
eating meat and not potato was such a funny concept,
651
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.400
just meat and broccoli that said, well that's good. I'm gone.
652
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.880
I'm girl, I'm so good. But just look my friend.
653
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:26.799
So it was just like it was like Nick, so
654
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.039
he doesn't want like like some steak fried Like, no,
655
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.799
I'm good, girl, I'm good, I'm good. I almost took
656
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.200
him just so that what is wrong with you? It's like,
657
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.039
so it's funny like the California the things you take
658
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.599
for granted on the coast, and especially in California, we're
659
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.359
so we're big old babies over here. We're pampered ass
660
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.559
babies in the California, and so it's like so interesting,
661
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:49.880
but you go somewhere. Even when I was in Indiana,
662
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.400
I was like many are like all this stuffs covered
663
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:58.480
in sauce. You know, I can't get you don't want
664
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.640
it on side. No, I don't want any sauce at all.
665
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.000
Just guys want I just want to taste the meat
666
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.719
and they're like, but no sauce on the side the side, girl,
667
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.159
I'm okay. It makes me laugh. I love it. I
668
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:12.039
loved love.
669
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.599
Dressing on the side sets them off too. If you
670
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.599
say them, if you said you want them dressing, which
671
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.480
is totally normal here, you just look like, what do
672
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.599
you mean you want the dressing on the side. I
673
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:28.960
don't know.
674
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.239
I mean, here's the funny thing. When I'm traveling, like
675
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.000
I'll we'll go to colorade all the time. I I
676
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.639
never have have had these interactions because I'm like, yes,
677
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.119
if it comes with gravy, yes, extra, no dress, I
678
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.679
just pour it on and do a little mix and
679
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:51.199
that's all. I like. I fully embrace as a whole.
680
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.719
And then I went gluten free because I had to, folks,
681
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.840
not because I wanted to. And now it's like, do
682
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.239
you like I'm sitting there thinking, well, what kind of
683
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.199
I guess I can have some scrambled eggs because there's
684
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.039
nothing on the Midwest menu that has that doesn't have
685
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.880
gluten in it. So my challenge isn't side or no,
686
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.599
hold the sauce. Mine is do you have anything I
687
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.639
can eat?
688
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.079
And when you say gluten, they're like what I mean?
689
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.039
They have everything. One of the times I was in Iowa,
690
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.880
they had a you know, like a walk up you
691
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.840
know bar, you know, like you know food bar whatever
692
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.280
that you walk up and they're like, oh, we have
693
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.719
our our special tonight is the the the bar walk
694
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.119
up bar. And I'm like, oh, what's in there? And
695
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:42.840
she's like fried cheese, fried corn, literally, french fries.
696
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:44.880
Fried chicken.
697
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.840
It literally the whole bar that you would self serve
698
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:55.880
yourself was fried. He said, is can I get like
699
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.519
girled chicken? And they looked at me.
700
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.440
No, I mean.
701
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.719
Cheese, cheese, curds, fried, you know, fried everything, Like I
702
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.519
I don't think there's one thing that they don't know
703
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.639
how to fight. Fried pickles they had that are actually
704
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.639
for I know they're really good, but like think about
705
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:17.440
a whole plate.
706
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:23.079
Of that, like I know, a heart attack do with that.
707
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:24.840
It was the whole walk.
708
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:28.239
Up like a salad bar, but it was fried food.
709
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.960
And I was just like, I don't know about that.
710
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.559
One thing. I woke at the Midwest that I left,
711
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.320
but all the time we only have a Like, I'm
712
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.119
a big Bob Evans fan, so it was breakfast. He's
713
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.119
best breakfast and Midwest. So besides someone cooking for you
714
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at home, right, So I go and I like the
715
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pistis and gravy. I try to explain people out here,
716
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and my sister didn't notice. They came to They went
717
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there withssed me once when I was living there. I go,
718
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.559
they have real gravy. It's that it's the gravy that
719
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basically gives you arteries. Uh, they just close up hearts.
720
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Your heart's enlarged afterwards. But it's so good. It's like
721
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it's it's the white gravy with the sausage in it,
722
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and on top of the sausage and biscuits you're getting also,
723
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.920
it's like it's so it's so heart attack inducing you
724
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don't care because you're smiling as you're eating it. And
725
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.599
they're like yeah, yeah, yeah. They said, oh my god, James,
726
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we can't give this. Youn't it in California. You can't.
727
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.920
You're gonna gargue everybody. We all be dead. So they
728
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:33.360
can't do it. But I swim them in the Midwest.
729
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719
I will give them this their biscuits and gravy. I'm
730
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in That's where I'm like, your bless. I'm like, you're
731
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just worn. That's fine. Cover the whole things.
732
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In fact, extra.
733
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On the side, right yeah, someone aside, cover the hole
734
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to dressed all things. Someone aside, I'm taking some back
735
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.320
home to the hotel exactly. It's like it's it's addictive,
736
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:52.960
and it's like it's just like, oh my god.
737
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:53.880
Like comfort.
738
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.679
Yeah, just really good. I know, of course it tastes good,
739
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it's bad for you. That's why a lot of folks
740
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that work.
741
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Was It was funny because my one of my dad's
742
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favorite was the standby is when we're growing up with KFC,
743
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.280
right yeah, around right, but you get that bucket of
744
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.079
chicken and with the mashed chands and graviies and the biscuits.
745
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Right.
746
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.880
So the other day I was reviewing a budget with
747
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.800
a client. She has three girls, and we see on
748
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the line item KFC. She's like, huh, I didn't even
749
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.719
think they existed anymore. This is in California, No mine,
750
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no last And she's like, and which one of my
751
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kids would eat KFC.
752
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It's like so she was.
753
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.360
So like perplexed, Like I haven't. I didn't know. I
754
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.320
don't even know where there was a KFC around here.
755
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:45.760
Are still here here, I know, right.
756
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.639
Right, So, but it's funny how people, I mean they're
757
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in in the Midwest, they have them everywhere, like I mean, yeah,
758
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.679
there's no there's no like trying to find them like
759
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.599
anitle on haystack like here. But yeah, it's different. I
760
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.599
mean I can say that because people have asked me like, well,
761
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.199
did you go back? Would you live there? And that's
762
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.519
a hard you know, because they're like, you're crazy, You're
763
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.320
paying all the taxes that you're doing this, you're doing that,
764
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.039
and it's hard. I don't think I would ever want
765
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to go back, just because I'm so used to the
766
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:23.719
diversity here and just culture, the culture and the art
767
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.639
and being able to talk to people from all over
768
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.679
and you know, experience different things. It would be really hard,
769
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.199
I think, to step back in that. I mean, if
770
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.079
I stayed there my whole life, I don't think, you know,
771
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I wouldn't know the difference.
772
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.920
But I agree people to all the time I go
773
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.400
to I go to the West all the time. I
774
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like the Midwest. I to visit it. I couldn't live there.
775
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.239
But I to visit and it's nice to slow downy
776
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.639
once in a while. But I always tell people everyone
777
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.599
are so nice, and it's just it's just a different
778
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:02.480
vibe than it's an America and in America and the
779
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.199
rest of the Araca, I gotta go and kill me.
780
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.239
But I I find that you know you're right because
781
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there's just there's a ceiling. And I have a lot
782
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of I have a lot of relatives who've moved out
783
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.559
to the to the coasts or in Chicago because they've
784
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.119
hit the ceiling and whatever the is they do. So
785
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.280
there were texts when there were there's they they're just
786
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.239
like I want more and I can't get it here,
787
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.159
Like I'm just it's just there's there's no infrastructure for
788
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.719
it here, so I have to go to a bigger city.
789
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.440
And some they'll go to like Chicago or Detroit or
790
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.920
somewhere as a slightly bigger in the Midwest before they
791
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venture out to California or New York or wherever. But
792
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.039
they're like, yeah, but they small towns for depending on
793
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.639
what you do, if you're not a farmer, or you
794
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.599
know certain things like you don't work at Walmart. I mean,
795
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.000
it's a certain things that you want more in certain fields,
796
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.840
or you're not a nurse or a doctor, like entertainment.
797
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:56.840
Especially my entire friends, a lot of them are from
798
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the Midwest. There are a lot of Ohio, INDs and
799
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Michigan and Indiana and Illinois out in Los Angeles because
800
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:05.880
they said, there's no buzz, there's nothing for the be
801
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:10.159
Green besides local theater, community theater. They want more than that.
802
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.440
You have to go somewhere else. You just have to.
803
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.760
So so some is some of it is just there's
804
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.280
a ceiling. You hit a ceiling there. It's even like
805
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.000
you don't like living there. You probably would love to
806
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.679
live at five figures of land, a huge house, four
807
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.840
hundred dollars. I mean, I'll take a ship. But I
808
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.639
mean it's like it's but I mean it's but you
809
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.119
want more. You kind of have to. You kind of
810
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.000
have to live out here. I think, you know, Chris said,
811
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I think for some of my friends who are getting older,
812
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.880
they're going back. They did the life, did all that,
813
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.840
so now like I'll retire and base myself back in
814
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:47.239
the Midwest. Trips. Yeah, so for you, it could be
815
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.320
one day it could be you one of you're like, okay,
816
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.280
kids are girl, this is done. I've done major work.
817
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.960
I'm like, now I'm just gonna go back home and
818
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.440
live my golden years, like golden years in the cornfields,
819
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:00.000
I guess.
820
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.880
I mean, like it's hard because like I don't know,
821
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if you guys, when you on vacation, you know, we
822
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.760
have such great places to go here locally that even
823
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:11.599
when you go like you know, like when it's a
824
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.039
Spain to the coast, it reminded me of California, but
825
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.039
California was better, and so it's like you want to
826
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.320
have that great experience, but then you're like, oh, it's
827
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it's not as good as what I have here, which
828
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I don't know. I mean, I think sometimes you want
829
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to be surprised when you travel to a different location,
830
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.960
and then I think we're a little bit jaded because
831
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.800
we have such great you know, other than the earthquakes
832
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.719
and the you know, the fires and all the others.
833
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.199
I'm not fires, other stuff.
834
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.960
I mean, uh, I mean, it's uh. I mean, I
835
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remember back when I first came here from the Midwest,
836
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it was in the early nineties, like and my first jobs.
837
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:57.719
I don't even think you know this, I don't know
838
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.360
if I told you this. But my first job was
839
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working at Tower Records. Yes, wonder that.
840
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.480
Records, Yes we're talking about And.
841
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.320
So I was hired as the one of the artists.
842
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.360
So I was coming home from college, and so then
843
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.360
I made the I would make the you know, the
844
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boards that they would have up of all art we
845
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:19.599
would get all the you know, we would get all
846
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.599
the albums, covers and everything. We had, like all the stuff.
847
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.079
It was my favorite job. If I look at all
848
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.000
my jobs, it was like my favorite job. And I
849
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.320
remember my friends coming from the Midwest to visit me,
850
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:33.679
and I would take them to work, and I'm like,
851
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.400
this is the coolest place, you know that I'm and
852
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.840
and all the people that I met coming through Tower
853
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.920
Records and the people that were like the permanent people
854
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.599
that work there, right, And I remember my friends saying
855
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.599
to me, because Midwest it's so different of a vibe.
856
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.400
They're like, how can you work with these I mean
857
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.320
they're so different from you, Like a lot of them
858
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:56.199
had you know, tattoos and artwork and you know, and
859
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.199
you're not, You're not like that. And I said, look,
860
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.360
it's we're all the same people. We like the same stuff.
861
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.239
We just they they like to spend money on you know, art,
862
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.119
you know, and I and I'm going to school. But
863
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.199
like we all get along and we all have this
864
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.079
artistic vibe. But that was like the best job ever.
865
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.480
It was so fun. I got to see all the
866
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:21.039
new albums come out and be really creative, and it
867
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:22.639
was the best job. Like, if I could go back
868
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.719
to that.
869
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.079
We have to, we have to end the show. But
870
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.039
next time you got to come on. Because I spoke
871
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:34.800
at Music Plus Records. Oh oh, we're actually we're actually
872
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.159
having a reunion in a couple of months.
873
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:37.960
Oh wow.
874
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.400
Anybody who worked as a Facebook group of also the
875
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.960
Music Plus Records. So I want the Camelot music too,
876
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.480
so I can talk about working back in the eighties
877
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.519
and nineties and about that. So we have a discussions.
878
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.039
Will definitely come back, come back for sure.
879
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.599
Yeah, we'll talk about that. I want to talk about
880
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.079
that because that's you're right. It was one of the
881
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:58.599
best jobs that I had to I loved it. I
882
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.559
loved it. I mean, it was just it was awesome.
883
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.280
I mean I think about it. It's always in my
884
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.360
mind and always on top of my you know brain.
885
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.039
But yeah, and I would love it. Thank you for that.
886
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:12.519
Tuesdays, Tuesdays, I love it. Like then all the produces
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come in. Is this Coffee and convers segment was saying,
888
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.199
is this Coffee and conversation. I'm James, and I'm Melissa
889
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.360
and Kristin Haffner as our guest. Thank you Christon for
890
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.239
being on the shell. She'll be back. Hey, glet to
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00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.119
meet you. We're a Coffee Conversation. We're here on Mondays,
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00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.360
every Monday morning. We're here for you guys. As we
893
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.639
always say, stay for the coffee, bring the coffee, and
894
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stay for the tea. We'll see you next time.