ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Three years ago, if you’d told us we’d spend October 7 interviewing Lucas Gage, we’d have laughed. So would he.
Lucas is a former Marine who did two tours in Iraq, then spent 14 years in the antisemitic “JQ” movement, building an audience of 336,000 on X, going viral with “Boom Boom Tel Aviv,” and calling Jews demons. This year he walked away, wrote about why, and started showing up at kosher restaurants in Lakewood. We wanted to know how a smart guy gets that deep, and more importantly, how he got out.
In this episode, we get into:
How a 9/11 “truther” video after Iraq became a gateway to every conspiracy on the menu, with the Jews as the “final boss”
Why conspiracy thinking is a web, not a single belief, and why you have to take it down one strand at a time
What Lucas actually believed about the Holocaust, and how “revisionism” sells itself as a free speech fight
The crypto scam, the Charlie Kirk assassination theories, and the moment he watched a conspiracy get built in real time
Why a calm “so what makes you believe that?” from Jake Turx worked where name-and-shame never did
Russian and Iranian influence operations, bot farms, and why antisemitism treats Jews like all-powerful gods
It’s one of the most important discussions should should be having right now, but it’s also funny and hopeful. People can go to very dark places and still come back.
This is a good place to start with Lucas's writings - What Pulled Me Out of Antisemitism
