EP129 - There’s So Much Room for Paranormal Activities!

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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey there, I'm Katie Featherstone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Mika Slope.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you're listening to Earthling Entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Prepare yourself for an amplitude to take it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The perfect length of paranormal and web launcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With your host, Joe Witton, get blind at blind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it, I'm a fan of this, I'm here for it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to another episode of Earthling Entertainment with your hosts, Joe and Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right, I'm your host who is the result of a child's wish.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Eggfield, hey guys, it was my wish.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hi, I'm Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So guys, you might be wondering, well, what is this podcast?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what do you guys do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to tell you, we're kind of a layer cake of paranormal and pop culture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we start out with little thing called spooky stuff, which is a myth of legend or a, you know, some kind of spooky thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: After that, we have Earth Pop, which is usually John Renews.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's our pop culture section.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Little nerdy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today we got celebrity guests.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're actually hanging out with the stars of paranormal activity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was a great interview.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One of the rare ones were Ryan actually got to have be sitting and be a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which was so happy to be here for it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They were awesome.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You guys are going to love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, after that, we have disclosure discussion, which is all about aliens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we wrap it all up with real world weird.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When something is strange, but not paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When something is odd.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, actual news?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's where it belongs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes it's messed up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes it's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a couple of funny ones in this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to give it away, but yeah, that's the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you for joining us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have recently started doing a video with this is probably only the 6 or 7 episode where we actually had video.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We spent like 2 years building the show and the audio zone and now our YouTube has been a little neglected.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to go to Earthling Entertainment on YouTube and subscribe, check out the videos like all that jargon we'd love to have you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, yeah, YouTube is definitely we've been having fun with this doing video now and we're we've been putting out clips stuff like that so you can follow us on all of our social media as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He does the TikTok so any of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But that is that is enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a couple things that happened over the weekend that we need to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was Memorial Day weekend and what happens sometimes on these long weekends is a big release happens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A big movie happens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was not able to do any kind of movie this weekend because I was I have his vacation in my family We went camping.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you about that in a sec But Ryan actually was able to go to MJR and do our out of theater review for Star Wars You know, go in the Mandalorian the Mandalorian grow go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was hey, you know what a flippity flap it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god I this is a non spoiler review life other than when I just said it was like you guys can see the video, but
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[SPEAKER_05]: for real, it was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, because give some counterplits.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know when you get excited, sometimes the finer details, like, like, think, let's break it down a bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What was awesome?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, was it a battle?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Was it a fight?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Was it a machine?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right after that, you get, you know, you see a bit of it in the trailer where they're basically almost like they're on half, but I don't think they're on half.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sure, another planet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ice planet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we get the ATATs and it's just the Mandalorian and Grogu just messing up because they're just going through working for the Republic now to take out these remnants of the Empire that are still out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So their bounty hunting is now exclusive after old Empire generals and war crimes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: correct.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And just the whole ride from that moment to them getting that because then of course they get oh you got to go work for the huts.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now they have to go to Nalhata.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which for those of you who don't know, Nalhata is the home planet of the huts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now the huts are job of the huts, what people most people know with the big fact guy, but they're not they're like super strong and they have their own planet that we've never seen
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I believe so.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we've only seen it in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, in the cartoons.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So there you go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First live action.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got Rada back in the the Clone Wars cartoons.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the original as a baby.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the Clone Wars started out as an animated movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of people don't remember this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it was kind of the pilot of the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But they did the animated movie first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that whole movie introduced a soka.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And also the mission was to
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[SPEAKER_04]: get a kidnapped job of the huts on rot of the hut and we get to see him full grove.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And in this one, I don't know how much spoiler this is going to give away, but they basically, they got to save them again.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They got to save rota.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rota always getting into trouble.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Getting in trouble again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then huts bowl is getting to get into some trouble.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now we are, we're saving rota and it's to me this just,
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[SPEAKER_05]: After I was done with this movie, I'm like, I feel like I could watch a hundred of these of different ones.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I feel like they could do like a James Bond with the Mandalorian and Grogu.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You got Grogu, which is an amazing, uh, practical effect, uh, puppet, whatever you call it, make it, you know, whatever you want to call it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the CGI, but it's also a puppet, you know, they do all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They tried it, you know, it's Star Wars.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was no CGI on there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There was none on grogous.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I guarantee they did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Whether it was eye blinking or breathing, trust me as a film maker.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's as awesome because I'm going to win this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, okay, a hundred dollars.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, bet me, bet me my life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Never my money.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right, the money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what Rick O'Connell said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Move on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, so moving on, but no, it was a mate so I just feel like you could just put anybody under the helmet and you could do this like That's how much I enjoyed it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You you make a good story.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can make another Indiana Jones with Mandalorian Grogu.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You could make Dupbo James Bond with Mandalorian and Grogu and I love Star Wars.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love Mandalorian Grogu, but to play devil's advocate
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[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't they do that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're saying they could have multiple adventures.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, didn't they do that with a television show?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Correct, but they still did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why was it different?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why is the movie different?
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[SPEAKER_05]: For those, there was something more powerful to it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was more solid.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's hard to describe fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like we've talked enough about this new movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, give us your final thoughts if you have any.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Final thoughts 10 out of 10.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You got to see it in the theaters support these movies because right now We see scene for for no reason at all like why are for a couple of few weeks now We've been here and oh, it's gonna do terrible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like hasn't even come out yet Star Wars fans are the most divisive angry fans ever I don't know why it's ridiculous they're poisonous fans
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[SPEAKER_05]: Stop listening to these media They all jump on the same rage bait.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's so odd to me because I saw the movie It was amazing and it's like none of this made any sense everybody said all these things None of it's true.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's like oh, it's three episodes mashed into one
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it literally has a beginning, middle, and an end that I'll completely tie together perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then it's like, oh, Grogu doesn't do enough.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He is vital in countless parts of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, all of these negative things meant nothing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, they were all wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen the movie yet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just know way too much about it because internet, we do this kind of show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We see, we see certain things early, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I will say that you are admittedly a huge Star Wars fan and admittedly a huge fan of the Mandalorian grow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I am slightly biased.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So 10 out of 10 is riots of you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give you mine later, but slightly biased, but still guys a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of adventure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like an incredible adventure from beginning to end in the musical score.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Chef's kiss.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Mwah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, Ludwig Gorenson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I believe this is his name.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Incredible.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely incredible.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's going to be doing the Odyssey this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He'll be doing the score for them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ryan's telling me that he was listening to the score at work.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dude.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: like come on like dude it's it's so good well chances are if you guys are a Star Wars fan or a Mandalorian Grogu fan you have already seen this movie but if you have it yet we definitely recommend seeing it and if you're going to see it in your in the Michigan area why not check it out at mjrthedres.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great idea, Joe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're a wonderful theater chain.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They are friends of the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not gonna lie about that, but they also are my legit theater.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I go there once a week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love the VIP booths.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me feel like I'm in a little cocoon and I'm safe watching my movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are safe, Jo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're one of those people who suffer from anxiety and doesn't like crowds.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go there and actually get one of these VIP chairs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I guarantee it'll help you out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just another reason why you can go to the movies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, go to the movies and you know what if you're not Michigan and you're not near an MJR you should still go to the movies You should yeah, support film exhibition support film support Star Wars this weekend do it that is true So reason why I couldn't see Star Wars like I mentioned is I went to camp camp Dearborn to be specific I don't think that would mean much to to random listeners around the world But it's a campground that my parents met at
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I went every year in my life and when I moved back to Michigan started bringing my kids and now my son who's three has been there three times and my wife and her old has been there one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a kind of family tradition.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And what's funny about Camp Dearborn is in the 50s and in the 60s it was kind of like a straight up like vacation resort.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like dirty dancing style they had they had a roller rink they had like buildings where people can go and listen to records because it was the 60s you know that's what you do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, like, but the point is it was like everything like here's our aerobics classes in the 80s like a full on resort and when I was a kid It was not like that at all, but it would still had a lot of these amenities and then slowly over time They like sold half of it to a golf course and then they tore it on all these tents and then this and then that and slowly it became kind of just like nothing But like a KOA like a field where you could pitch a tent
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're coming back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're coming back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been like 10 years of them being funded and they're they're showing their shown improvement But anyways, the reason why I bring this up is it is a lot of fun you don't for you forget sometimes when you're in places where there's winter How nice it is to just be outside and a t-shirt around a campfire.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I love camping.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I you know grew up in the scouts shit all that plenty of it
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you're probably over camping for the rest of your life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm still down to camp, like me and my girlfriend, we talk about doing it all the time, but yeah, I don't know why we just talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we do, we just talk, we like, we dream about camping.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like we have these camping, camping dreams, but we just, like, we've been so busy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know you know what I totally get it man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I I'm not a rustic camper, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm not going to camp somewhere where there's not a toilet nearby.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you can find if it's a different building, you know, it's even fine if it's an outhouse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I could deal with an outhouse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm not going to dig a hole.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's kind of my level for camping.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But my wife's level is far different than my level.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, what I went to cab deer for what I was like a kid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We would stand these They were cabins, but it was basically plywood on a wood frame.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't it was a cabit Right on a beat and there was no plumbing and like I guess there was electricity That's not what they are now like there's these resort cabins and these are the ones my wife needs and it has a shower It is sick inside Yeah, but like for me that's camping part of the
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[SPEAKER_05]: it's a little house.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Part of the thing with me is doing all the weird chore stuff that you had to do like we had to like go get buckets of water from the community sink and bring it to our camp to wash our hands because there's no running water we had to do all that the rough stuff and I'm sitting there and I'm like man but I want my kids to experience that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And after camping at this luxury cabin with my kids, I realized, no, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm tired as it is, and they're too young to help.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why would I want more work?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll take the shower inside.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, the reason why I bring it up is I watched paranormal activity again on my phone, and I was outside, and it was so scary to watch it outside.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now the first time I seen it, it's not really my type of movie when it comes to suspense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I re-watched it because obviously we're interviewing them later in the show, but it just hit me so much harder when you're just like, there's like wind and like sounds of things around you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever seen like a really creepy movie outside?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, no, and I can only imagine
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[SPEAKER_05]: Paranormal activity just because that one is it's it's unique in that I put it like It's such a weird category because you just feel like you're just watching like found footage in a way, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're just now looking point yet down through just camera footage.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It makes it so real like all the little little subtleist movement.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like holy crap
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[SPEAKER_04]: like it looks real like they did they did a good job of making you feel like it was like actually oh my god this happened a year ago and we're seeing it now you know what's funny though is if it did happen like players project and paranormal activity and like people were killed and this is like footage from cops or found footage from that the couples recorded whatever
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is a crime scene.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They wouldn't put it in theaters, like you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like diary of the dead, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny because I'm thinking about like anybody who actually, uh, like thought it was real.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like hold on, take a breath.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think the families of the deceased would let the paramount put this in theaters.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, as we know with like, um,
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[SPEAKER_05]: with Blair Witch, you know, like they were getting letters, like their mothers, their parents were getting letters of like condolences from people around the world.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I believe that even Katie, in our interview later, she was saying that even she had a few people, like, oh my gosh, you're, you're possessed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Are you possessed?
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a good story.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what, I just, I don't know, I'm excited and because we're talking to them today, and they visited the show, I wanted to say, hey Ryan, can we do kind of like a paranormal theme for the show?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was hoping you would say that because I actually had some good stuff prepared, which is rather paranormal activity like, oh, perfect.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well-rounded show, that's what we got here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's true, and actually this, this week's spooky stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: is a pretty good one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm shocked that I actually haven't stumbled across it yet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's another Ed and Lorraine Warren investigation story.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Those guys and a movie actually came out last year based on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let's jump into Spooky stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's jump in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey guys, check out this week's spooky stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurl Family Haunting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it's a cool ass named Smurl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Smurl, Smurl, almost like Smurfs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, would you have to name your kid, Earl?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It likes my son, Earl Smurl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Earl Smurl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Poor Earl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Soon after the Smurl family moved into their duplex and west pits in Pennsylvania, they began experiencing unexplained phenomena, such as banging on the walls, phantom screams, and putrid odors.
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[SPEAKER_05]: over the years, the activity would escalate to physical attacks on the family.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurls contacted the Catholic Church, but could find no evidence of a haunting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: it wasn't until Ed and Lorraine Warren investigated the home in 1986 that they uncovered a demonic presence that had been lurking in the house for over a decade.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what this was.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was trying to do some flair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not enough flair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're doing just enough flair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You need to do more flair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: that's scary.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's where it's at.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It all started in August 1973.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurl family purchased a duplex on Chase Street in West Pitston, Pennsylvania after flooding from a hurricane destroyed their home.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Jack and Janet Smurl lived in one side of the duplex with their daughters, Don and Heather, while Jack's parents, John and Mary, lived on the other side.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Janet would later give birth to twin daughter, Sharon and Karen, while living in the chase street duplex.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sharon and Karen, Sharon, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we're gonna come up with like a reoccurring thing in the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll have like an intern.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll pretend he's out there and eventually we'll get an actor to play him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It'll come on screen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it's Earl Smurl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Dude, on the street live, it's Earl Smurl, but that's really gonna tame it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ty guys, he's got to have like, he's got his voice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's got a crack every time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, Morty.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Go on, geez.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So almost as soon as the Smurl's moved in, they realized something was off about their new home.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It started innocently enough with objects disappearing in electrical malfunctions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not it, is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, things took a turn when they were awake in the middle of the night to the sound of banging on the walls and ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_05]: During the day the family began to notice a foul stench throughout both sides of the duplex smelled like a combination of sulfur and rotting flesh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that just feels like it's probably from hell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're smell sulfur and rotting flesh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty much hell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to call someone to know there's a demon.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And usually this comes along as well.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There were also sounds of a pig grunting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that adds to demon, but it's definitely unsettling.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like it does a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So is the demon a pig or the demon calling us pigs like humans are pigs?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we're, I mean technically that's actually pretty close to the pig.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, their flesh is pretty similar to us.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A cannibal said once that they taste about the same, too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, so eventually black mist began to appear in hallways.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes these mist's masses transformed into shadow figures.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, that's not good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Years later during an interview, Janet Smrell would tell a reporter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Some people say they don't know if there is a heaven or hell.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, in this house, we know heaven and hell exist because we have seen both sides.
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[SPEAKER_05]: unable to move out of the duplex due to financial constraints, the swirls began to fear for their safety as the hauntings violently escalated.
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[SPEAKER_05]: as the years went on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the entity haunting the Smurl's grew stronger.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It began to physically attack them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: One of the Smurl daughters was pushed down the stairs by an unseen force.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The family also watched in terror as their 75 pound German shepherd levitated in the air and was thrown against the wall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not funny, but I just- Whaaaaa?
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I hit it, exactly, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it, if I hit it
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[SPEAKER_05]: Another one of the smurled daughters was nearly killed when the chandelier above the kitchen abruptly fell.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Jack's mother Mary had a heart attack in the house, which they attributed to the demon.
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, these were not the worst of the hauntings.
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[SPEAKER_05]: one day while the rest of the family was out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Jack Smurl claimed he was sexually assaulted by a demonic entity known as a succubus.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This demon would later attack Janet, who was paralyzed in bed next to a sleeping jack.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurl's also said that the entity would bite Jack on the ear and shake their bed at night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurl's were members of the Catholic
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[SPEAKER_05]: pre-state at the home for a week, but witness no hauntings or demonic activity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: With the church offering no further assistance, someone recommended that the family contact demonologist Ed and Lorraine Warren.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Their investigation would put the smurl haunting on a national stage and change the family's life forever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, man, I'm sure that young kid really liked being assaulted by a ghost and having a whole nation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's uh, there's no privacy in this case.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It basically blew up like this became front page news for a while.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was before the internet, so this is some juicy stories.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This was pretty juicy, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I Lorraine and Ed Warren, who were famous at the time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Demonologist, is that what they call themselves?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but they're just paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Helper says demonologists here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Demonologists.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a cool title.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's pretty sweet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Were you phallogists?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I guess we're kind of demonologists.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We covered this kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but we don't actually, I mean, our study and our research is not like we're not going to these places, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I feel like we have to, we're paranoid.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't investigators.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we can claim any of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're like paranormal reporters.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We like talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't even spread the word, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We do see it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like, people who actually spend thousands of dollars to go to like these actual places and do these crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to dismiss them by being like, I'm a paranormal investigator.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Fair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm just fair.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We are.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We work hard.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We one day one day we can dream.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We can dream.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can dream.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I must stay home.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Be safe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Lorraine and Ed Morning.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Warren started their investigation of the Smurl House in January of 1986.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ed began the investigation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Warren that year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was using religious provocation to attract the spirit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: According to Ed, quote, I did not have to wait moments when the very thing I felt was a drop in temperature of at least 30 some degrees.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Then, a dark mass formed about three feet in front of me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There was a sound in back of me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I could hear rattling around.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The warrants later found the words, GET OUT!
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[SPEAKER_05]: written on a mirror that they believed was a message to them from the demon itself.
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[SPEAKER_05]: After spending months investigating the house, the warrants determined that four entities were haunting the swirls.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Two were female spirits.
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[SPEAKER_05]: One was a male spirit who had died in the home or somewhere on the property.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The fourth entity was a demonic spirit
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you're already dead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not moving on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And not going to deal with this demon ordering me around.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Get me a drink of water.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Put it lemon in it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh!
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[SPEAKER_05]: You have any peanut butter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Cause zo zo!
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you have any peanut butter?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What kind of jelly?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to my back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's scratch my back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So three exorcisms were performed on the house, including one by Episcopal Priest, recommended by the Warrens.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But the hauntings continue.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The warns did find a cause for why this demon targeted the Smurls, according to Ed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The family was among the chosen, meaning people who were picked by demons to haunt and terrorize.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Smurl family haunting inspired last year's 2025 film The Conjuring last right But hold on like you just like oh yep You were chosen Yep there's a anyway No Like that's right That's right I feel like a dumb explanation Anyways Oh well you see your board screwed Well I'm glad we got to the bottom of that Well guys the bill will be in the mail Uh Dut-Dut-Dut-Dut
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, yes, I mean, honestly, I don't Earl, Schmurl, let, let us know what you think Earl Schmurl should get into antics wise, or what you think of the Smurl family haunting, or what you even think of the Exorcist last right movie that was released last year, which was based on this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can hit us up at Earthling Entertainment podcast at gmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I just thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for finding a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did think there was a good one It just go well with our paranormal activity theme right and so you know, let's do that with no further or do Let's jump into that interview now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did want to say something a lot of times you may notice that
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm wearing different clothes during the interview and that's because we do these interviews around the time that any time that we need to Right, so it's never usually the day we record, but this was actually the same day We just finished his interview a little bit ago and it was really nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's nice that it's fresh in in my mind Yeah, that it really me too totally
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[SPEAKER_05]: On today's episode, we're diving into one of the most influential horror movies of a modern era as we sit down with Mikaslow and Katie Featherson from Paranormal Activity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We talk about the insane success of the film,
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[SPEAKER_05]: the lasting impact it had on horror and found footage behind the scenes memories from making the movie and what it's like being a part of a franchise that terrified audiences around the world.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you've ever slept with the lights on, after hearing a strange noise in the middle of the night, this interview is for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey guys, so the one thing I really wanted to know is you went into this franchise, you know, when did it start like how did it start with you when did you know that you were into something special.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Mika, can I jump in?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When did we know we were doing something special is different than when we knew we were doing a franchise?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So when we made this movie way back in the early early days, we auditioned and we were just kind of struggling actors doing our own thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we auditioned, we got the job, we filmed it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, the two of us with Oran and some of his friends who helped and it was a magical kind of summer camp experience for me, you know, we were all so creative, we all worked so well together and that in and of itself was special and that would have been a memory I would have carried with me for forever, even if that even if it had ended there, sure, but then years later when it came out, you know,
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[SPEAKER_06]: we were blown away by the success and by people's reaction to it, we were so grateful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it was pretty soon after the first one came out into theaters that we kind of the word from high came on down and they were like, we've greenlit a second one and I remember Mika and Orina and just kind of looking at each other being like, oh my gosh, what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: So then we knew we were off to the races and we had no idea how big it would become from there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it's been a while journey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then for me, I'd say the first, when I first walked into the room at the audition, there was already like palpable magic in the, in the, just in the improv of the audition and everything else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we're Katie's talking about is actually not unique to paranormal activity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think all,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, I would say it's like the feeling of something being right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like when you're creating art or anything else really, there's that flow state and if you're able to do that, get into that flow state with other people, then magic happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think this is a universal thing that applies globally to all human endeavor, if I may get into my philosophical self,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's an extremely special thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm very grateful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or Katie and Warren for this whole journey, especially because it is paranormal activities unique in the sense that most films are produced by a studio and then they're released and that's how it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we not only created this independently, but then all of the audience members who voted for the demand we can't pay in and are listed in the credits are part of
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not aware of anything else that in the movie world at least that has done that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a tremendous sort of resonance that I feel with the fans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm grateful to all the people who have joined together to produce the franchise.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, speaking of fans, since you guys play a version of yourself and let's just say, things happened to your characters, did you ever run into a fan who is shocked to see you in real life because they thought you may have fallen under the fate of your characters?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and no, I think most people who meet us in the real world understand that we were acting in a
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[SPEAKER_06]: not really dating and we don't really live in San Diego and I'm not really possessed right all of that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I do think that the movie, you know, especially our our interesting choice to use our real names lent lent itself to it being very believable and I remember my mom telling me when the first movie came out she was at a very early screening of it was like, you know, she's lives in Texas and so my family all went and
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[SPEAKER_06]: the movie was over and she was in the bathroom and this girl was crying because she was so upset that Nika was dead and she was so upset that like I was visit my characters possessed and where is Katie in the movie where is she you know all this kind of stuff and the girl thought it was real and my mom was like oh honey you don't have to be so it's okay like look she's my daughter and promise you she's an actress in LA she's super happy right now it's all okay
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the girl didn't believe her and my mom's is dating me, but my mom like pulled out her wallet and had like a photo of me in her wallet.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was like, no, look, this is her headshot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like she said, you know, and so, you know, I do think that that that was sort of an element, especially in the early days, which, you know, was interesting for us, but, but I certainly think made the movie more fun for people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get this all the time, frankly, people constantly are like, dude, I thought you were dead, even now taking decades later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People are like, Is it real?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I still get that direct message from people on social media.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, it's both,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a different experience than Katie regarding the name thing, I think it's an amazing that people thought it was real and that, I mean, the things that we've heard not only do
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[SPEAKER_03]: people think it's real, but I mean there's people who have seen it and then they can't go to sleep, so they put like a circle of salt around their car and they sleep inside and they're called the stories that we hear repeatedly are like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that speaks to again
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[SPEAKER_03]: of the shadow of the darkness of the spirit world, that people have a fascination with, and paranormal activity is one way to get access to that world, but that world has been available and open since two humanities, since the dawn of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, our podcasts that we did through tales of what is it called, came to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Charlemish activity, true tales of possession.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't name it, we didn't name it, Paramount named it, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The paranormal activity podcast that we did gets into this with some of the world's foremost exercises and which is and shamans and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, when people are experiencing this kind of thing, it's not that they're just scared.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they're accessing a part of reality that's important.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, the atmosphere in this movie, it's just so unique.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And yet, it just, it screams, this is real.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It screams that you are looking at real people, living their lives, just in their home, and then all these things happen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, that's what makes it, I think, make it work so well.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember being scared.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember keeping, thinking someone's gonna tug me on my bed.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just that's, you know, I think, you know, the relatable, it's an easy movie to put yourself into, and also I think the scares and the movie, the way that we build, the lens itself to each audience member, filling that in, you know, specifically and individually for themselves, because you're not watching a bunch of gore, you're not watching, there's a couple of big jumpscares, but most of it is your mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: worrying, kind of going, oh, what's going to happen next?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's going to have a next scanning the screen, right, being hyper vigilant as an audience member.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you're watching people in a normal house and a normal suburban life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's an easy thing to kind of put yourself into, um, which lends itself to be scarier when you go home.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because you're going to go home to your apartment or your house, hopefully and laying a bed is most of us not
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[SPEAKER_06]: all of us, but most of us do and you're gonna go, oh, wait, they weren't a bad, they weren't a house and then, you know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So if you like being scared, we were hoping that it would be scary not only while you watch the film but later on, which can be fun and cathartic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, definitely a lot of times what you don't see is scarier than what you do, especially when you Like you mentioned putting yourself in that position because I hear a noise in the other room and I just constantly assume I'm going to die What do you do What it's important to understand like why that happens because like well, I don't want to get down too deep of a rabbit hole But when you're when you're
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like as Katie said, you're in a hyper-vigilid state and starting to imagine stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In a sense you are
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[SPEAKER_03]: Depending on how you do it, you can be creating spirits or opening the door to things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in a very real way, I think this allows us to access those parts of reality that are usually dismissed or hidden, but it's a safe way to do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this stuff, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is kind of my animal wheelhouse with the listen to the podcast, you'll get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is a paranormal podcast, us, what we do as well, that we do pop culture, paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're, you're talking our language here, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, a perfect segue into a question I wanted to ask you guys is in the film your characters are both warned to essentially not poke the bear and do you think doing films like this do in a sense poke the bear and have you yourself had any experiences that you think might be a result in your participation in the film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, so I'll answer that first time that you could go for the, for the, for the bringing on home.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do I think doing movies like this?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it depends on how you look at the world and how you would as me could say your cosmology.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't, I don't have a lot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: For me, I don't have a lot of, um,
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[SPEAKER_06]: I really am a spiritual person, and I believe there's a lot in the world that you can't explain, and also the level of joy and passion and purity that I think all of us myself included brought to the making of this film when I say it was like summer camp.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was not like the scary summer camp in the movies, but like the fun summer camp.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like we were creatively just sort of like soaring on every level, and it was such a beautiful experience.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So when I think of the experience of making this movie, that's what I think of.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I do get scared when I watch it sometime.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That kind of watch it a long time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I remember, you know, experiencing the fear of it and I love being scared.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But my sort of thought about that is that it's a cathartic way to feel scared in a safe way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And for me, there's, I'm not poking
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[SPEAKER_06]: um, look at it a little bit differently.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Having said that, I think Mika would probably jump in and say, you know, that there are other options as well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But for me, um, it's, uh, you had good energy from it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You, you know, the good feeling is looking for something negative.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And, and I also think, like, you know, coming from sort of the, to think about the world of psychological lens,
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[SPEAKER_06]: everyone has deep feelings like fear and panic in terror and trauma and all of these things that we're always trying to process consciously or unconsciously in our lives.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes watching a scary movie allows you to access that in a way that's confined and safe, where you can feel scared, but you're not in danger.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that that can be cathartic for people as long as it's, you know,
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, done in moderation or done with the right intention, yeah, Amika.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll pick up what Katie's saying and validate it, but from a spiritual perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So first, when we were creating the movie, were we working with spirits or opening the door, I would say yes, however, with the caveat that the spirits that we were creating and playing with were our allies in creating the art.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like we were opening the door to an
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[SPEAKER_03]: the sort of like a demon that you might encounter in real life that's like a parasitic parasitic will actually do the things that you see in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a construct that we manifested intentionally, at least for myself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I made a spirit that is a demon in the context of the movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: so that we could make a movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when the movie is over, that spirits my friend, like I, I, we just shut it down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like now he's living in the felt when you're not I'm saying he's that this is an ally spirit that helped us make art.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it happens to be shadowy and dark, but it's not the same as an actual demon, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the spirit version of acting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you're an actor, you're not literally becoming the physical person you're playing the same like Daniela Deluas doesn't become Abraham Lincoln in the physical sense in the literal sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he becomes a Abraham Lincoln, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like empathizing in shapeshifting into the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the spirit we create from a
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[SPEAKER_03]: that place of that summer camp vibe is shapeshifting and becoming the spirit in the movie so that you can then relate to the actual thing you're watching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does this make sense?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's like more of manifesting amuse, I totally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's kind of like, it's a fun, it's like a, it's the kind of demon that you would have when you're a child and you're playing make believe you don't create an actual demon you create your the the bad guy in the story that you're playing with it's like what can we say it is a safe way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to experience the darkness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is I think part of why horror movies are so useful in our culture is they allow people to experience these dangerous things in a safe environment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're watching something and you're getting scared, especially if you're like a kid,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're actually sort of teaching yourself emotional regulation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you're teaching yourself how to engage with the emotion of fear.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Teaching yourself how does my own mind work when I'm relating to things that are scary?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do I take care of myself?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do I access my own trauma and darkness that's coming up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think what a lot of people are doing when they see horror movies is exactly that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're drawn to those things because they have something inside of themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when they see the darkness on screen, it allows them to see themselves in a mirror.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They reflect it, their own trauma, their own pain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think if anyone, whoever it is sees the movie and is starting to access legitimately terrifying things, my take on that is it's not that the movie is open the door to some bad, something bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's that they had that in their anyway and it's allow it's a vector for them to encounter it and that's actually a very healing process if it's done correctly, that's
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's quite a take.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you guys keep talking about how much fun it was and how much like it was a summer camp.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, in making these movies, there any particular scene or day where it was more like the top fun, the best fun is or anything that you'd like to share.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I think I think, I think there were, you know, it's, it's, you know, we filmed this over seven days, many years ago, and so the thing that stands out for me is, is I think it was like one very long day into the night and to the wee hours of the morning because we didn't really do like sag breaks or anything like we were just, we were just in it together like we were just like we were just like we're gonna go, go till we get this right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'll like fall asleep sleep for a few hours wake up, keep going.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And there was one kind of a long stretch of time where I think we did make a tell me from wrong, but we did the the footprints, we did the dragging out of the bed, we did the attic stuff, we did so much, so many key scenes at once.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we were so we got to the place where we were so sort of slap happy, we were so tired, we were so delirious, we were laughing tears or streaming down our faces, we were laughing so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And finally,
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[SPEAKER_03]: just to remind you, so we shot like 30% of the movie in one night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of it was a single take, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we get to the attic and or it opens the attic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he told a very tasteless joke that it's not funny in the retelling, but it's funny at the time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Just trust us that it was funny at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me have 330 in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, after working for like 20 hours.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just the energy and we couldn't keep going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we're seeing a huge part of the movie and one take.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I remember all of us sitting on the floor in the hallway outside of the like closet where the attic was just laughing and just like just.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Such a bonding experience, you know, if you're like creating with people and you get to that level, that moment where you're tired and you're laughing so hard and you're like, it's just a beautiful memory for me to have at these two guys for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was a great moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was kidding.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there was one special thing in film, because a lot of the stuff obviously was practical.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to know how did you accomplish or how did the filmmakers?
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did you as a team accomplish the getting dragged out of the pet?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was just about to ask that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because that was the one thing where I had a few theories.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I wanted to know how it was.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are your theories?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the first thing was, oh, we just CGI a guy in a green suit out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he just literally dragged you out of the room.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I, I was thinking maybe you just somehow pulled that off.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just, my physical acting is so good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I pulled myself out of the bed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, give reverse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You kind of slithering up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, maybe, uh, you're kind of right about the green screen a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So there was a green, there was, I don't know if there was, there wasn't a green screen, but
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[SPEAKER_06]: and his partner at the time is good friend of his at the time, they all wore black and sort of like ninjas and I had a harness on my leg that was kind of sticking out a little already.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so the first part of the of the drag was they pulled me out of bed then they lifted up a pole and then they then they the you know the string on the harness pulled me down the hallway.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and then orange little, and then just thinking it was taken out and post.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's what it was, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, you're making it so much easier than it actually was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was not easy, but, you know, well, this is why it wasn't easy because if you look at the shot, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, the reason you could do without a green screen is because the camera's on a tripod so he could matte out, it literally just caught like paste on top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And every single frame of the entire shot, he edited hand by hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to take the people out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but even for the wind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It took him a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, if you look at the door, the stairs are directly outside of the bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, we kept hot running into an issue where Katie was getting dragged out of bed, but then she would hit the stairs and I would it would
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, orange, like, I don't think when insurance is going to cover that, so I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Katie was a trooper and then we eventually figured it out after take after take after take.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It took like three hours to get this right and it only worked one time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there was like a bunch of hooks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and they were like unhooking and running and moving all so that she would be dragged first out of the bed then around the stairs and down the hall all in one motion while she we were acting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was it was an epic event when it finally worked but that's what's in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Ryan had a question about the ending, because I have seen the theatrical one, and that's kind of realistic too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As a film person, I will usually stay with theatrical when there's extended cuts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I usually don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But Ryan tells me, he saw like three different endings.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I knew that there were two other endings.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know there was one where you slate your throat, and basically the demon leaves you, and then the other one cops actually come in and get,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the demon slams a door which sounds like a gunshot and makes the cop shoot her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So either way, the demon is killing everybody.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was curious.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How did you feel about the other two endings?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you like them better?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Was there like a vote?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which one was your other one?
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was a vote.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When Steven Spielberg says, redo the ending, don't let the girl die.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's no vote.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You just go with what he says.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then you're just like, yeah, cool.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's, yes, Mr. Spielberg.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we filmed the, the one at the police.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what we filmed when we shot the film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So original screenings, that was the ending that that was there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it felt like the most sort of like grounded in the sense that what would really happen potentially, somebody would get curious, where's Kate?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody would call, there would be a welfare check, that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we came up with that, I believe at California Pizza Kitchen, the three of us, because we were a midway through this issue.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we were like, how are we gonna end this film?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause Oran had known sort of key moments in the trajectory, but we hadn't really come up with the ending.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so we came up with it, he cast it, we filmed it, and I liked that, and I liked the root of what we were going for and coming up with it and how it played out and the guys who played the cops did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I really appreciate, first of all, the first Steven Spielberg to see our film was like a phenomenal life moment, like you know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know, I can't even process it and it happened to us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I'm talking about somebody else right now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that was really magical and to go down and do research and explore, we shot a bunch of different versions, I'm crawling on the ceiling and one, I was terrible at that, couldn't use it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's a lot of different things that we did and found the thing that worked that allowed my character to stay alive, which allowed for there to be more films and allowed
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[SPEAKER_06]: like, it's just to have that little voice and the back versus, oh well, it's a contained film, it's dead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I think that that was smart.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Both for a franchise purpose, but also just for the experience of audience members getting into their harm going home, like the question mark of it, I think it's really smart.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so I have a lot of gratitude to Steven Spielberg for
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[SPEAKER_06]: taking an interest in and sharing some wisdom with us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm, I go with the theatrical too, even though I, I have a soft spot for all of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was true, we are wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm put Katie on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also I would say, there's a psychological principle where regarding open loops, where if the, if you watch a movie and everybody dies and the bad guy is dead and everything, he calls the loop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you have the bad guy,
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[SPEAKER_03]: not dead, you have an open loop, which is necessary to create franchise, which is what Steven Spielberg knew, and he was absolutely correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that said, there's also
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a level of brutality, I think, in some of the other endings, like when Katy, Katy, cuts her throat, that was fast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Disturbing in a different kind of way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when the demon shoots, like sets it up so that Katy dies as well, in that sense too, I mean, the original idea was that the demon escapes anyway, even though Katy's dead in months.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for my idea that did not get, did not go anywhere, was that for the sequel, the demon is loose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if you see the movie, you could be the next victim, because he's going, and then it jumps from like the, to the audience, and then we can go anywhere within, you have like a meta kind of thing going on, but that didn't have go anywhere, because orange is not on
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a head of, I think it's a head of your time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that would happen like 10 years later They would have, they would have, they would have, they would have, white with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was 2017.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I think it, I was like a meta kind of thing that would be pretty and big, you know, like, why not?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well thank you guys so much for being with us and hey everybody who's listening everybody who's watching we wanted to tell you that in two days from now on the 30th at MGR theaters in Troy, Michigan they're doing a screening and Q&A they're doing photo ops and stuff at 4 and then the screening at 7 so make sure to be there and yeah guys do you have anything else you want to say to our audience or paranormal friends out there and I hit my phone
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, first of all, thank you to YouTube for having us and for chatting with us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's always fun, you know, to talk about this, such a magical experience in our lives that we will forever have gratitude for and a never tire of revisiting it and celebrating it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And like Mika said earlier, we truly from the bottom of our heart love.
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[SPEAKER_06]: the fans of this film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We are fans of these films as well, you know, we're with you in that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so we love meeting people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We love saying hi.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We love hearing people's stories.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we hope to get to meet a lot of you guys over the weekend at the screening.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We will be there with Bells on ready to say hi and and do some more question answering and take some photos and there's going to be a screening.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it'll be great.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we hope to see everybody there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll just add to that by just saying that for me, there's something special about the paranormal community that's, I think, a little different than most fandoms.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you're into the paranormal, you have a sort of natural connection to the other side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And people who have that sense,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's cool to hang out with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just generally cool people on general, but by definition, like if you can see spirits or you can sense them, like you're probably awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if I apply to you, come down, hang out with us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about the paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to hear your take your experiences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, let's just have like a paranormal party, come on down.
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[SPEAKER_05]: really meant a lot to have you guys here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much for the call.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for having us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for the nice questions and the friendly vibe I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, cool bands.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, we'll let you guys go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stay in touch and I'm hoping to see you on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'll say what I hope so too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome to be with you guys.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there you have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think the most the most surprising thing is getting advice from Steven Spielberg.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Bro, I had no idea.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, asking that question and they're just like, uh, yeah, when Steven Spielberg says don't kill the girl, you don't kill the girl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, fair enough, like Steven Spielberg watched our film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Could you imagine if Steven Spielberg was listening right now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to have so many questions.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's probably going through some kind of crisis.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing here for you, George?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Give us a call.
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[SPEAKER_05]: George.
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[SPEAKER_05]: See, he's got Lucas on his bones.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Lucas on the brains.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know they seem interchangeable because of any other Jones, but they're very different people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My list is gone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, that was a cable guy reference.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I apologize for that, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No worries.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to be, uh, I think we're going to wrap up the, uh, the pop culture section.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We always save some of the news for next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you already know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Man, the learning grogu is the.
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[SPEAKER_05]: best.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's all you need.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get into Aliens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about some extra terrestrials.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now this one was a little bit hard for Ryan because I gave him the same parameters as I gave him with spook stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said try to relate it to paranormal activity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now we could all sit back and judge him as to whether or not he did that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if Ryan failed, I want you
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right, shame me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you could.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm actually into it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyways, no, no, just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyways, no, I did and I actually got two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I won up to by giving you two stories that are paranormal activity like having to do with extraterrestrials and UFOs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So enjoy this week's disclosure discussion.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's about aliens and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Whitley Striber is among the most prominent figures writing on ufology and the alien abduction phenomena.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He played a significant role in popularizing the latter via his 1987 book, Communion.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I like that book.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The subsequent film inspired by it in which Chris Christopher, with a wonderful walk-in portrayed striver.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The polarization would, in turn, have outsized impacts on 1990's pop culture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you like that movie, by the way?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I never saw it, it never did, it's actually really good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I've seen clips, I know about the, oh, I don't want to give it away.
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[SPEAKER_05]: An impact that is still felt today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Communion, a true story, is based on the purported experiences of Striber who underwent a feeling of lost time and terrifying flashbacks.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The author describes a peaceful evening at his cabin, that abruptly turned terrifying, awakened by strange noises.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He witnessed a small, non-human figure enter his bedroom despite the house alarm being set.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This initial encounter was so shocking it felt like a dream, yet his mind was sharp and fully awake.
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[SPEAKER_05]: His next conscious memory was being moved, naked, and unable to control his body out of the room and into the night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This terrifying sensation of helplessness marked the beginning of an ordeal that felt intensely real.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, but if these aliens can travel across the universe to our planet, you're just going to strip a guy naked and drag him across the lawn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, did they return to make it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not, did they return to make it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not, did they return to make it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just, God feels like maybe he was just kidnapped.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's a cultural misunderstanding.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have like all like the kind of rules when it comes to, you know, consent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, it's like, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're meeting this man for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys should have him naked, and drive him across the lawn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was savage.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was gonna say rude.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's only polite, Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's only polite.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My God.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So after the experience, Striber awoke with a vivid yet false memory of seeing a barn owl outside his window.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They also did that with the movie The Fourth Kind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they also did that in Resident Alien.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I will imagery is often like aliens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was dumb.
01:00:47.144 --> 01:00:47.885
[SPEAKER_04]: Chips a goose.
01:00:49.387 --> 01:00:49.747
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
01:00:51.109 --> 01:00:53.272
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like worse than a dad joke man.
01:00:53.352 --> 01:00:53.833
[SPEAKER_04]: I had.
01:00:53.853 --> 01:00:55.334
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a step dad joke.
01:00:55.395 --> 01:00:56.356
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know.
01:00:57.477 --> 01:01:01.222
[SPEAKER_05]: He describes his experiences in vivid detail.
01:01:02.003 --> 01:01:04.786
[SPEAKER_05]: waking up to strange entities.
01:01:04.866 --> 01:01:05.426
[SPEAKER_05]: Shamedy.
01:01:05.446 --> 01:01:22.922
[SPEAKER_05]: So I really, I promise you guys, I am strange entities standing by his bed and later undergoing hypnotherapy to uncover repressed memories of these unexplainable events with the help of UFO researcher, Bud Hopkins.
01:01:23.623 --> 01:01:34.074
[SPEAKER_05]: The author explores various theories about the beings' origins and motivations, drawing parallels to mystical folklore and ancient traditions.
01:01:35.056 --> 01:01:39.140
[SPEAKER_05]: Striper reflects on the profound impacts these interactions
01:01:39.507 --> 01:01:57.107
[SPEAKER_05]: had on his mental well-being and sense of reality, as he calls for more open scientific inquiry into such phenomena, challenging the dismissive stance of the mainstream, which we hear at Entertainment, Earthling Entertainment, agree with, right?
01:01:57.227 --> 01:01:57.448
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean,
01:01:58.089 --> 01:01:59.230
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's ask questions.
01:01:59.570 --> 01:02:01.491
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's what I got for you for the first one.
01:02:01.951 --> 01:02:02.371
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
01:02:02.471 --> 01:02:06.313
[SPEAKER_05]: About communion, I haven't seen the movie, but I would like to.
01:02:06.853 --> 01:02:10.195
[SPEAKER_04]: I read the book at what I audible to the book.
01:02:10.695 --> 01:02:13.436
[SPEAKER_04]: And I saw the movie very separate from each other.
01:02:13.536 --> 01:02:15.958
[SPEAKER_04]: But from what I remember, it was pretty much the same.
01:02:16.358 --> 01:02:16.618
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
01:02:16.978 --> 01:02:20.680
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, as far as book to movie adaptations go, you know, they're never, that's what I was going to ever perfect.
01:02:20.700 --> 01:02:21.780
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right, right.
01:02:22.001 --> 01:02:24.102
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, number two.
01:02:25.042 --> 01:02:26.963
[SPEAKER_05]: This one I had some fun with.
01:02:27.390 --> 01:02:27.690
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:30.572
[SPEAKER_05]: The Hopkinsville Goblins.
01:02:31.132 --> 01:02:36.555
[SPEAKER_05]: And yes, this belongs in disclosure discussion and you will see why.
01:02:36.735 --> 01:02:38.536
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you sure because it sounds like a spooky stuff?
01:02:38.897 --> 01:02:41.238
[SPEAKER_05]: I know it smells spooky, but let's see.
01:02:43.067 --> 01:02:53.715
[SPEAKER_05]: The Kelly Hopkinsville Encounter, also known as the Hopkinsville Goblin's case, and to a lesser extent, Kelly Greenman case is the name given?
01:02:53.815 --> 01:02:54.635
[SPEAKER_05]: Are they leprocons?
01:02:55.276 --> 01:02:56.016
[SPEAKER_05]: You will see.
01:02:56.837 --> 01:02:57.277
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll shut up.
01:02:57.417 --> 01:03:03.381
[SPEAKER_05]: Two a series of incidents of close encounters with presumably extraterrestrial beings.
01:03:04.502 --> 01:03:13.188
[SPEAKER_05]: There were dozens of eyewitnesses to the incidents, which included two families present at the farmhouse and others in the area.
01:03:13.948 --> 01:03:21.293
[SPEAKER_05]: Other civilians, some of whom had no connections to the family at the farmhouse and even one in another state.
01:03:22.127 --> 01:03:36.634
[SPEAKER_05]: perhaps most significantly the witnesses also included several local policemen and a state trooper who saw and heard strange phenomena such as unexplained lights in the night sky and noises on the same night.
01:03:36.954 --> 01:03:38.394
[SPEAKER_04]: So relatively credible people.
01:03:38.675 --> 01:03:38.975
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:03:39.315 --> 01:03:42.496
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people that came together and were like, no, no, no.
01:03:42.536 --> 01:03:43.397
[SPEAKER_05]: We all saw this guys.
01:03:43.417 --> 01:03:43.697
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:03:44.672 --> 01:03:53.621
[SPEAKER_05]: the seven people present in the farmhouse claimed that they were terrorized by an unknown number of creatures similar to Gremlins.
01:03:53.701 --> 01:04:00.948
[SPEAKER_05]: Now remember, back in the day, Gremlins were a very believed like Martian race that were messing with our planes.
01:04:00.988 --> 01:04:01.509
[SPEAKER_05]: Remember that.
01:04:01.549 --> 01:04:03.451
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was World War II.
01:04:03.471 --> 01:04:07.474
[SPEAKER_04]: They thought Gremlins were in excuse for any kind of mechanical thing that would go wrong.
01:04:07.575 --> 01:04:08.375
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a big deal.
01:04:08.516 --> 01:04:08.856
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:09.096 --> 01:04:14.939
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there was this really weird movie of Chloe Morets where she fought at Gremlin and then she had a baby in a safe.
01:04:15.179 --> 01:04:15.979
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a weird movie.
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:17.600
[SPEAKER_05]: That is a weird movie.
01:04:17.640 --> 01:04:18.960
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right that down.
01:04:19.020 --> 01:04:22.322
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like her baby and I don't know if she was trying to escape, but she was in the military.
01:04:22.342 --> 01:04:23.042
[SPEAKER_04]: It was really weird.
01:04:23.062 --> 01:04:23.882
[SPEAKER_04]: But it had Gremlins.
01:04:24.222 --> 01:04:24.923
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm saying.
01:04:25.363 --> 01:04:31.606
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so this has credibility as extraterrestrial because that was the origins that they gave to the Gremlins.
01:04:31.946 --> 01:04:33.146
[SPEAKER_05]: They said that they were from Mars.
01:04:33.907 --> 01:04:34.727
[SPEAKER_05]: We covered this before.
01:04:34.747 --> 01:04:34.807
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
01:04:38.715 --> 01:04:44.936
[SPEAKER_05]: which have often been referred to as the Hopkinsville Goblins in popular culture.
01:04:45.517 --> 01:04:53.178
[SPEAKER_05]: The residents of the farmhouse described them as around three feet tall with upright pointed ears, thin limbs.
01:04:53.698 --> 01:05:01.080
[SPEAKER_05]: The beings' legs were said to be almost non-functional or devolved, or even in a state of atrophy.
01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:04.681
[SPEAKER_05]: So, like, kind of like ET, there were more like torsos of little stubby things.
01:05:04.761 --> 01:05:05.221
[SPEAKER_05]: Correct.
01:05:05.301 --> 01:05:05.541
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:05:06.383 --> 01:05:10.209
[SPEAKER_05]: long arms and claw-like hands or talons.
01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:16.418
[SPEAKER_05]: The creatures were either silvery and color or wearing something metallic.
01:05:17.315 --> 01:05:29.926
[SPEAKER_05]: their movements on occasion seem to defy gravity with them floating above the ground and appearing in up high places and they walked with a swaying motion as they like they were waiting through water.
01:05:30.146 --> 01:05:43.297
[SPEAKER_05]: So they're like waddling penguins with little hoverboats but maybe they have like anti-gravity like you know like technology maybe they can like bubble themselves in it like we've heard about that certain UFOs could do that for propulsion.
01:05:44.615 --> 01:05:55.699
[SPEAKER_05]: So although the creature is never entered the house, they would pop up at the windows and at the doorway, waking the children in the house up to a hysterical frenzy.
01:05:55.999 --> 01:05:57.479
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that would be creepy.
01:05:57.499 --> 01:05:59.020
[SPEAKER_04]: If a monster peeks in on you.
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:00.180
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
01:06:00.220 --> 01:06:02.021
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'd be a little scared.
01:06:02.261 --> 01:06:02.701
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't lie.
01:06:03.201 --> 01:06:12.864
[SPEAKER_05]: The family's fled the farmhouse in the middle of the night to the local police station and Sheriff Russell Greenwell noted that they were visibly shaken.
01:06:13.810 --> 01:06:19.254
[SPEAKER_05]: The families returned to the farmhouse with Sheriff Greenwell and 20 officers.
01:06:19.754 --> 01:06:22.536
[SPEAKER_05]: Yet the occurrences continued.
01:06:23.057 --> 01:06:29.862
[SPEAKER_05]: Police saw evidence of a struggle and damaged the house as well as seeing strange lights and hearing noises themselves.
01:06:30.262 --> 01:06:38.188
[SPEAKER_05]: The witnesses additionally claimed to have used firearms to shoot at the creatures with little or actually no effect at all.
01:06:38.892 --> 01:06:43.175
[SPEAKER_05]: and the house and surrounding grounds were extensively damaged during the incident.
01:06:43.756 --> 01:06:47.379
[SPEAKER_05]: There are no-known photographs of the holes in the wall and stuff.
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.341
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I imagine things run around like, Eee!
01:06:50.641 --> 01:06:51.162
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly!
01:06:51.802 --> 01:06:53.604
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they're seeing these lights, right?
01:06:53.644 --> 01:07:01.109
[SPEAKER_05]: So what if they're able to just be like, like, maybe they could like just manifest into like some, like, maybe they're interdimensional?
01:07:01.410 --> 01:07:01.850
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know.
01:07:01.910 --> 01:07:04.972
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no, I don't know you're taking some great leaves, but I don't mind it.
01:07:05.092 --> 01:07:09.515
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like so there are no known photographs They didn't have any cameras that night.
01:07:09.555 --> 01:07:11.136
[SPEAKER_05]: This only happened this night.
01:07:11.477 --> 01:07:12.757
[SPEAKER_05]: This was one incident.
01:07:12.898 --> 01:07:17.381
[SPEAKER_04]: It was one visitation Yeah, one tourist of aliens come by like let's go see the humans.
01:07:17.941 --> 01:07:18.181
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:07:18.361 --> 01:07:18.561
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:07:18.902 --> 01:07:24.906
[SPEAKER_05]: So these sightings supposedly I like that you said it inspired the movie ET
01:07:26.331 --> 01:07:30.132
[SPEAKER_05]: which is another time that we can bring up a Steven Spielberg tonight.
01:07:30.152 --> 01:07:35.534
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's, we brought up Steven Spielberg three times in this episode so far, so it's, no, it's a good episode.
01:07:35.614 --> 01:07:36.174
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
01:07:36.855 --> 01:07:42.196
[SPEAKER_05]: And also, the Pokemon Sabel Eye, which I kid you not, I always have to bring up a Pokemon guy.
01:07:42.216 --> 01:07:46.818
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm going to start bringing up the 1993 Super Mario movie again, if you bring up Hoveyon.
01:07:46.918 --> 01:07:53.440
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, well, you know, if you want to talk about the prequels, okay, we got to captain planet.
01:07:53.480 --> 01:08:03.462
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's just have an avatar, uh, airbender, uh, anyways, and also possibly the denzians from Call of Duty Black Ops to zombies.
01:08:03.962 --> 01:08:11.224
[SPEAKER_05]: The Hopkinsville Goblins are also featured in the popular trading card game, Metazoo, Cryptid Nation.
01:08:12.248 --> 01:08:19.152
[SPEAKER_05]: We like it's so funny how many cryptid's we cover that I'm always like Why haven't we bought these yet?
01:08:20.192 --> 01:08:28.076
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I say this every time and I'm like I just need to look up Metazoo Cryptid Nation channel I got a lot of board games that I don't get to play anymore.
01:08:28.096 --> 01:08:31.158
[SPEAKER_04]: See that one behind you that one that one Ghostbusters game is not even open
01:08:32.746 --> 01:08:38.391
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, I just don't have a lot of time and I got little kids who weren't going to play a big complicated game.
01:08:38.411 --> 01:08:39.692
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like apples to apples.
01:08:39.933 --> 01:08:40.173
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:08:40.633 --> 01:08:41.474
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, let me fair enough.
01:08:41.534 --> 01:08:43.136
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, mind like snack a source racks.
01:08:43.736 --> 01:08:45.418
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, we all have our games.
01:08:45.538 --> 01:08:46.759
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I would like snacks.
01:08:46.919 --> 01:08:48.020
[SPEAKER_05]: It is fun game actually.
01:08:48.381 --> 01:08:48.981
[SPEAKER_05]: It's pretty sweet.
01:08:49.722 --> 01:08:50.923
[SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of which, you know, it's a really good game.
01:08:51.125 --> 01:09:16.322
[SPEAKER_04]: what forbidden bridge it was again it was again from the nineties and i was like these two plastic uh... idols and they had this bridge and they shook it when you press the button and you had a little indiana jones character would cross the river and then go cross the bridge to like it they idol and you know it would not be up it was just very indiana you're gonna have to show me that so that is straight up out of indiana jones it was an awesome game yeah let's do something like an awesome game
01:09:17.002 --> 01:09:17.503
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:09:17.583 --> 01:09:20.506
[SPEAKER_05]: I honestly like I've like I got nothing that that's a great.
01:09:20.566 --> 01:09:21.347
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a fun game.
01:09:21.627 --> 01:09:23.209
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah 13 dead and drive fireball.
01:09:23.249 --> 01:09:24.450
[SPEAKER_04]: I won't these are all great games.
01:09:24.650 --> 01:09:27.974
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, and of course You know you can't forget mouse trap.
01:09:28.534 --> 01:09:29.395
[SPEAKER_05]: I always bring up mouse trap.
01:09:29.415 --> 01:09:36.183
[SPEAKER_04]: That was that was my favorite when I was a kid Mouse trap seems like you know when they making these movies in a board game So they did battle shit, but they did a bunch of stuff.
01:09:36.203 --> 01:09:37.784
[SPEAKER_04]: They should do a mouse trap one, but make it like saw
01:09:39.317 --> 01:09:39.577
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
01:09:39.817 --> 01:09:42.840
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, an R rated mouse trap out.
01:09:42.860 --> 01:09:43.120
[SPEAKER_05]: Whoa!
01:09:43.361 --> 01:09:45.463
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you know Copyright Earthling Entertainment?
01:09:45.483 --> 01:09:46.584
[SPEAKER_05]: You were the mouse.
01:09:47.204 --> 01:09:47.685
[SPEAKER_05]: Dude.
01:09:50.525 --> 01:09:51.985
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to I want to play a trick.
01:09:52.185 --> 01:09:57.246
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like we're just going to like just totally just slightly off just slightly off.
01:09:57.846 --> 01:09:58.447
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.
01:09:58.727 --> 01:10:04.548
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Ryan, thank you very much for succeeding at doing a disclosure discussion that felt paranormal.
01:10:04.848 --> 01:10:05.568
[SPEAKER_05]: Ask right.
01:10:05.648 --> 01:10:11.629
[SPEAKER_05]: I tried my like I said, I know the goblins were a bit of a stretch, but they were freaking them out.
01:10:11.649 --> 01:10:13.049
[SPEAKER_05]: They were mess with them at home.
01:10:13.189 --> 01:10:16.030
[SPEAKER_05]: It was and it was a one time thing multiple witnesses.
01:10:16.190 --> 01:10:18.190
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, hey, sounds to me like a habit.
01:10:19.250 --> 01:10:19.770
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe it.
01:10:19.810 --> 01:10:20.251
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know what?
01:10:20.451 --> 01:10:26.414
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a real world weird that has nothing to do with paranormal activity, and you're going to check that out right now.
01:10:26.714 --> 01:10:27.134
[SPEAKER_05]: We are?
01:10:27.854 --> 01:10:29.495
[SPEAKER_04]: Real world weird.
01:10:30.536 --> 01:10:37.339
[SPEAKER_05]: Students accidentally served baked dirt at main high school event, accidentally.
01:10:38.648 --> 01:10:57.673
[SPEAKER_05]: a main high school was recently forced to issue a rather odd apology for an unfortunate accidental incident and accidental incident where we got totally our bad guys my bad wherein some students were inadvertently fed baked dirt at a dinner event.
01:10:59.178 --> 01:11:13.581
[SPEAKER_05]: Metamac Valley High School in the community of Walter Borrow posted a peculiar Mia Copa last Thursday following its annual empty bowl supper gathering at the previous evening.
01:11:14.261 --> 01:11:25.924
[SPEAKER_05]: In the hours leading up to the event, the school explained a science class had conducted an experiment in which students baked potting soil to see how this might later influence plant growth.
01:11:26.304 --> 01:11:26.724
[SPEAKER_05]: Fair enough.
01:11:27.657 --> 01:11:36.500
[SPEAKER_05]: The provobile dirt casserole was subsequently placed in a baking dish covered with foil and set to the side in the stove area away from the food items for dinner.
01:11:36.941 --> 01:11:51.086
[SPEAKER_05]: However, as volunteers scrambled to serve the many families attending the popular event, someone grabbed the soil and brought it to the table, thinking it was a dessert offering for the evening presented with a tasty looking dish.
01:11:51.186 --> 01:11:51.927
[SPEAKER_05]: The school said,
01:11:55.828 --> 01:11:59.009
[SPEAKER_05]: before immediately realizing what it actually was.
01:11:59.109 --> 01:12:01.170
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I was gonna say like a deer.
01:12:01.190 --> 01:12:04.531
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no way I could eat dirt and not know I was eating dirt.
01:12:04.551 --> 01:12:05.672
[SPEAKER_05]: That they knew they were eating dirt.
01:12:05.692 --> 01:12:10.274
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay, so it's a little misleading because they're like, we accidentally fed them dirt.
01:12:10.294 --> 01:12:10.954
[SPEAKER_04]: What kind of?
01:12:11.034 --> 01:12:12.615
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, yeah, they actually, yeah, they did.
01:12:12.915 --> 01:12:13.295
[SPEAKER_05]: They ate it.
01:12:13.795 --> 01:12:14.595
[SPEAKER_05]: They put it in their mouths.
01:12:14.655 --> 01:12:15.035
[SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.
01:12:15.496 --> 01:12:15.656
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:12:15.996 --> 01:12:16.296
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
01:12:16.396 --> 01:12:16.936
[SPEAKER_05]: That sucks.
01:12:17.697 --> 01:12:18.437
[SPEAKER_05]: That'd be terrible.
01:12:19.753 --> 01:12:23.057
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it the rest of your off feel like seriously no home.
01:12:23.097 --> 01:12:25.079
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even want to come here today, man.
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:25.319
[SPEAKER_05]: Nope.
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:27.201
[SPEAKER_05]: That's it No, I'm making now.
01:12:27.261 --> 01:12:30.885
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm making demands Right at this point.
01:12:30.965 --> 01:12:31.926
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm making demands.
01:12:32.026 --> 01:12:38.172
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you I don't think I don't know can you I'm not saying you should just go sue crazy But like could you sue the school or something?
01:12:38.252 --> 01:12:40.635
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I don't know why not
01:12:42.065 --> 01:12:44.227
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they're gonna, is there any more?
01:12:44.707 --> 01:12:49.070
[SPEAKER_05]: There's gonna be a crazy haired lawyer that will take that case, I guarantee it.
01:12:49.810 --> 01:12:55.374
[SPEAKER_05]: A gas staff at the supper quickly removed the dirt dish, which was mistakenly found its way onto the menu.
01:12:55.834 --> 01:12:59.817
[SPEAKER_05]: Fortunately, the students were no worse for where after sampling the soil.
01:13:00.197 --> 01:13:07.842
[SPEAKER_05]: Deeply apologetic for the mixup, the school stress that the incident was completely an accidental situation and absolutely not a prank.
01:13:08.282 --> 01:13:08.783
[SPEAKER_05]: That said,
01:13:09.283 --> 01:13:15.406
[SPEAKER_05]: One imagines that some mischievous members of the senior class likely wish that they had thought of such a thing.
01:13:15.766 --> 01:13:16.507
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure they did.
01:13:16.647 --> 01:13:17.768
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe they did a prank.
01:13:17.788 --> 01:13:24.551
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and they say no one was hurt, but Dirtmouth Craig begs to differ because he's been called Dirtmouth Craig ever since.
01:13:25.151 --> 01:13:25.672
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying.
01:13:25.752 --> 01:13:27.853
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, you don't forget Dirtmouth Craig.
01:13:27.873 --> 01:13:29.234
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not getting that out of his life.
01:13:29.774 --> 01:13:30.774
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you got some worms.
01:13:31.275 --> 01:13:32.395
[SPEAKER_04]: Dirtmouth Craig.
01:13:32.715 --> 01:13:35.117
[SPEAKER_04]: Dirtmouth Craig.
01:13:35.157 --> 01:13:36.097
[SPEAKER_04]: Dirtmouth Craig.
01:13:36.177 --> 01:13:37.018
[SPEAKER_04]: Dirtmouth Craig.
01:13:38.972 --> 01:13:40.072
[SPEAKER_04]: with Earl's Whirl.
01:13:41.673 --> 01:13:47.415
[SPEAKER_05]: That brings us to time traveler videos offer a grim vision of the 2050s.
01:13:47.615 --> 01:13:50.816
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so this one I thought was kind of clever.
01:13:50.876 --> 01:13:55.098
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I don't actually think this guy is from the future at all, but this is what he does.
01:13:55.138 --> 01:14:04.741
[SPEAKER_04]: He poses that he is from the future and does these TikToks and just says, like, this is how the world is now after World War Three.
01:14:05.461 --> 01:14:06.642
[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A TikTok creator claiming to be a time traveler from 255 is attracting attention in publications like the Express.
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[SPEAKER_05]: With videos that allegedly show the aftermath of World War III, the clips depict scenes of destruction in places such as Paris and Russia, including damaged military aircraft abandoned streets and
01:14:36.762 --> 01:14:51.553
[SPEAKER_05]: the creator who posts under the name unknown dot path 31 has also shared videos featuring historical figures like Abraham Lincoln and a still alive Michael Jackson with imaginary
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[SPEAKER_05]: while there's no evidence that there is nothing more than digital storytelling as speculative internet folklore, it's a tidy snapshot of the current moment our fears about global conflict filtered through AI imagery and social media performance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you believe?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Time travelers are here warning us of their future?
01:15:24.770 --> 01:15:26.391
[SPEAKER_04]: I do, I do.
01:15:26.732 --> 01:15:28.473
[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone on this show does to be honest.
01:15:28.713 --> 01:15:33.616
[SPEAKER_04]: Because remember that one image that we did at episode like one or two of the time travel from like the four?
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[SPEAKER_04]: The hipster with the hipster.
01:15:34.616 --> 01:15:36.157
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like the sunglasses and stuff like that.
01:15:36.257 --> 01:15:40.160
[SPEAKER_05]: And it is, that is still a picture that is like wild to me because he does.
01:15:40.200 --> 01:15:42.701
[SPEAKER_05]: He looks like he was from here.
01:15:42.962 --> 01:15:44.182
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this looks like, oh, yeah.
01:15:44.202 --> 01:15:45.923
[SPEAKER_04]: From a few years, it popped in and say hi.
01:15:46.384 --> 01:15:46.604
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, makes you wonder.
01:15:49.486 --> 01:15:50.206
[SPEAKER_04]: It does make you wonder.
01:15:50.246 --> 01:15:52.568
[SPEAKER_05]: Because, you know, Deadpool can time travel.
01:15:52.628 --> 01:15:57.372
[SPEAKER_05]: So why couldn't anybody else fair enough right now To pull out with all you would do.
01:15:57.672 --> 01:15:59.133
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I did well guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am gonna I'm not gonna lie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna wrap this up It's been a long day.
01:16:02.836 --> 01:16:05.198
[SPEAKER_04]: I mentioned earlier that we went to Camp Dearborn.
01:16:05.218 --> 01:16:12.303
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we got back and then in our later We had the interview and then 20 minutes after that we shot the show and I am exhausted.
01:16:12.703 --> 01:16:14.445
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm meeting the show a little early
01:16:14.825 --> 01:16:18.186
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a tired Joe and I'm an appreciative Ryan.
01:16:18.206 --> 01:16:22.987
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you Joe for sticking out and hauling ass for this whole show dude.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, this was a great one and thank you guys for tuning in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and also guys if you if you like paranormal activity and you want to see that again in theaters and we consider with the stars you know Micah and Katie are gonna be there and you guys can do Q&A and photo ops at is at Troy Michigan the Troy MJR and I think it's photo ops and stuff at four and then the screening and the Q&A at seven so definitely check it out there's still some tickets available and yeah I mean two days away so I'd grab those tickets now because I don't
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I know they're really excited to interact with the fans.
01:17:13.613 --> 01:17:17.034
[SPEAKER_05]: They couldn't be any more awesome to talk to.
01:17:17.214 --> 01:17:19.394
[SPEAKER_05]: And they were telling us how excited they are for this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See you next week, guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And from all of us here at Earthling Entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Zaya!
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[SPEAKER_05]: And goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I did watch another movie this weekend while I was at my phone it was called Whistle and I don't expect you to note it was like a shutter original but you like horror movies you might like this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Nick Frost was in it.
01:17:59.340 --> 01:18:02.861
[SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't the main star but Daphne King was the X-23.
01:18:02.941 --> 01:18:04.162
[SPEAKER_04]: So she played Logan's daughter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Deadpool Wolverine yeah well she it was really really good it was basically there's like an Aztec death whistle and if you blow it and you hear the sound death comes after you but was so think of it almost like a final destination because these people were just dying in wacky way Expect the unexpected or a fling entertainment