Episode #23 - Great Eats!!!

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Welcome to driver, to driver, a Stokes trucking podcast on driver to driver.
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We will discuss everything related to trucking.
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And put a stokes trucking spin on it stokes trucking doing the right thing since 1979.
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Episode 23 of the podcast.
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Wow.
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That's pretty good.
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That is pretty good.
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And we are going to talk about truck, stop restaurant.
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your favorite
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I'm a fan.
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I'm a fan of Many restaurants I'm especially a fan of Truckstop restaurants.
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We play a little clip from CW and McCall's, I think it was a top 20 hit.
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If I remember right, it got up to like 18 on the country, billboard charts in 1975, the old home filler up and keep on a trucking cafe.
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It was based on advertising jingles for old home bread.
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Oh, really?
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That's where that song came from.
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where CW McCall came from
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old home bread or writing jingles,
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writing jingles.
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He was advertising executive in Omaha.
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can't remember the name of the company he originally worked for cm.
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He exactly.
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He was born in Audubon, Iowa.
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was an advertising exec in Omaha.
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He worked with chip Davis, who is the founder of Mannheim steamroller.
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Very.
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famous Christmas band.
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I W How would you describe?
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I would, they're like an orchestra sort of aren't they
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but it's almost electric?
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Yes.
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Um,
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they're very famous in the Midwest.
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If you hear the animals in the background, I'm sorry.
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No, they do.
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They are a new age music group.
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Mannheim steamroller is chip Davis.
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so neo-classical,
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there you go.
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I know them from the Christmas
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modern recordings of Christmas music and new age rock.
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Anyway, we're getting
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off slop off
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So bill, bill Fryes, R I E S is actually the name of the gentleman who played the character, CW McCall.
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He came up with that name based off of McCall magazine was sitting on his desk when he, they hatched this idea and he put the initials in front of it because a lot of truck driver.
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had their initials on their shirt and he knew this character was going to be a trucker.
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Okay.
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So Wolf Creek pass.
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That was his first album,
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which we've listened to a lot.
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listened to that a lot.
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uh, old home filler up and keep on trucking cafe is on the album Wolf Creek pass.
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I would highly recommend any of his greatest hits and of course his most famous song, which hit number one.
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Convoy.
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Absolutely.
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I know this one because.
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I bought you a bootleg copy of the movie convoy on VHS.
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When we were first married,
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I watched it once.
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It was really bootleg too.
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Cause like every once in a while You could see a head pop up It was one of those kind.
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I'm pretty sure we still have it in the closet.
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Oh, it was one of my favorite movies that I had an interview with the guy from judges carwash today.
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And I actually.
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cited Convoy BJ and the bear smoking.
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The bandit is a big influences.
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Why I'm in trucking.
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right?
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That's it.
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wore out a VH or a cassette tape of Wolf Creek pass.
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CW McCall, uh, easily.
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One of my favorite artists, little trivia after he got his convoy
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money,
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his family went on vacation in Europe, Colorado.
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ended up buying.
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a house in your REA and he became the mayor of your'e from 1986 to 1992.
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Oh, how interesting.
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It
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Wow.
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just died.
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Uh, April 1st of this year.
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Wow.
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93 years old.
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So were they still in your way when we were out there?
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I didn't read that far.
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know He was still Um, lived a long life, had a lot of influence over a lot of truck drivers through time.
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So I'm big into Truckstop cafes.
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I like to eat.
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Anyway.
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When I first started driving, I loved stopping any place I could that had a restaurant and sitting down and try and whatever they
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had.
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So Val, a few months back said you ought to do a podcast on Truckstop restaurants.
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and I jumped at the chance to do this podcast in particular.
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So we've got interviews with 16.
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truck drivers, of who.
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are experienced
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Susan, Susan truck drivers,
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truck drivers, who knows some of the best places there are to eat some that maybe aren't open anymore.
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And I know a lot of us don't have time, but if you get the chance, most of the places that are mentioned during this podcast, yet,
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to try and
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take a take a minute and stop there and eat.
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So we'll hop right into our interview with Mike.
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Roberts.
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Becky, I had to, I had to plug my phone in and Press record.
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Okay, Mike.
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So what's your Truckstop food story.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I was a Gordon fast free.
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This is years ago.
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My daughter turned 12.
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See, kids could only go if they were 12.
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Right.
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So my daughter turned 12 and she, and they could only go in the summer.
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They couldn't go in the winter.
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You know, when chain laws were out, you know, when you, when you had to carry tire chains, they couldn't go.
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Okay.
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So my daughter went with me one summer after she turned 12 and we, uh, went down like to LA, right.
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And, uh, and McDonald's had just, uh, this is a side story.
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Nick Giannos had just opened the big parking lanes for RVs.
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And so I was flipping into big Donald's and, you know, get all the food there, you know, that I didn't, you know, carry in my little cooler.
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Okay.
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We're Buttonwillow and we go to like a TA or, or somewhere like that, with that, with the restaurant.
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Okay.
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Sort of sitting at a booth and the lady comes and says, uh, to my better, what would you, like?
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She says, I'll take a couple of pork chops and then she decides on mashed potatoes and gravy and then green beans.
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Okay.
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And so I get something and see, uh, see our family were dairy farmers, so it was be for nothing.
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And so I said, what makes you think that you like pork chops?
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Well, grandma, you know, my ma my wife's mother, she fixes them sometimes.
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That's okay.
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Why don't you have anything you want?
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You know, so sort of big gums.
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My daughter said these pork chops taste, like they'd been sloped in Greece.
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I said, oh yeah.
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And she said these potatoes tastes like they'd been made out of those little tiny beads.
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So she ate her green beans.
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Then we walked, we had walk all the way down through, you know, the little place there, but Willow, we had a well bout like a fourth of a mile or a little bit less than an album mile all the way down.
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McDonald's to get her some real.
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So you tried the theater truck stops.
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No she wanted, she wanted to go to a sit down restaurant and have real food.
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Um, so, So you said, when I called initially that you would only eat there, if you were really kind of desperate, I guess, huh?
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no, no, no.
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That, that was just this one place.
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That was the story about my daughter.
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The only places that I can remember ever eating was.
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Uh, was it the Fe at the burns brothers?
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I think it you know, out on 10 joining, you know, between LA and, uh, Phoenix.
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But see, I can only remember eating when I was star and they had tacos one night at this buffet.
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That was the, that was the best food I remembered the truck stops
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All right, man.
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Oh,
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Um, I'm going to try and make a quick hit episode is when I'm going to try and do and talk
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Oh, have a
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five Or D yeah.
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Four or five different of our drivers.
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you know, What, what do you like to eat today?
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and what, what's your Favorite?
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that maybe isn't around anymore?
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Val has a couple, I'm going to kind of center it around those and I do
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Yes.
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See, you see, see if you're back in the Midwest and the old time places had, you know, classic places, but I never did really eat at those places.
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You know, like that was the best place I ever ate.
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Well, a buffet was up Mesquite.
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One of those, uh, casinos, it's all torn down now, you know, it's, it's in Mesquite.
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If you got 50 gallon fuel going north, uh, you could eat a buffet there.
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That was pretty
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Yeah.
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like the, uh, wasn't it.
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Well, when I first started driving by there, it was like a 2 99 for a prime rib or something.
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Wasn't it.
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If you got 50 gallons of fuel and
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Yeah.
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2 99.
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yeah.
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Oh myself.
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That's okay.
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yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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that happens.
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Carl's Jr.
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Is the best you can get now.
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Oh, you know, that place, you know, we haul that cheese in the, in and out, in and out as good hamburger.
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Let's see, let's see, uh, just the other day, uh, I want somewhere with some of my family and they were talking anyway, it came out, you know, we went to some restaurant, right.
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And, uh, they're ordering this or that.
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And the other, we, on the way out, I said to my wife, you know, it's a sad story when, uh, Carl's Jr.
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Is your favorite
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See, I don't
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says, yeah, yeah.
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I know the feeling.
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a lot of people hate subway.
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Um,
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Oh, the subway is good
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I'm not like it's not, you know, if I'm in Logan and I got my pick of.
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A hundred places to eat.
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I'm not.
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going out of my way to eat subway, but on the road, you, you know what you're going to get, you know, you there's not.
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yeah,
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And, Um, like McDonald's, and some of the burger places, um, I've had some.
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like they've overdone it with the salt or it wasn't cooked quite right.
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And I'm not a huge I'll eat McDonald's I don't want to sound like, I'm,
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oh, I know
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holier than now.
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And I won't eat McDonald's or burger king, but if I've got my preference you know, I, it like a Love's it's Carl's Jr.
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In subway.
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I'll probably eat subway.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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And see, I like hot food.
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So that's the main reason I don't eat subway all the time, because I feel the same way.
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Subway is good stuff,
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It's somewhat,
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stuff hot,
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somewhat
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I like it hotter than a sandwich, right?
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It's healthy.
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It's somewhat healthy.
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Like,
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Oh yeah.
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Really
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yeah.
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Everything.
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of the lettuce and everything.
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Yeah.
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You know, if I'm just trying to stay away from Greece, all I'll do subway instead of Carl's Jr.
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But
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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anyway.
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All right, buddy.
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Be careful.
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Hey, thanks again.
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bet.
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We'll see you, Mike.
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Bye bye.
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It was great talking to Mike Roberts.
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Again, he's been on the podcast before.
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He's always a great interview.
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I love talking to Mike on the phone and uh, and, and chitchatting with him.
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We, I failed to address in the first segment, why Becky is co-hosting this week.
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So Becky,
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well, our daughter, grace, your normal co-host and who is much more, um, Seasoned much more seasoned podcaster with mark and has a much better, uh, on air comedic relief.
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Uh, she is she's on a study abroad to Rome, Italy.
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The summer.
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So she's been over in Rome for the last two weeks.
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I think she's got one more week there and then she'll head home.
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But I think it's been a real great experience for her.
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She's gotten to go to the Vatican twice.
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They've been down to Florence, uh, but it seems like she's doing an awful lot of homework, so I'm not sure that
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a lot of
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not a lot of fun, but I think she's gotten to see some pretty neat things.
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And, um, I think is looking forward to coming home.
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I got a text from her this morning that said when you picked me up at the airport,
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bring me chicken.
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Cool.
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Yeah, that'll be fun.
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I think we do that in a week.
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So you had mentioned and then this next segment, it's Troy Jensen.
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We talk about a couple of truck stops in Idaho, and I specifically talk about the Boise stage stop Cause the stage stop is one of my favorites.
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It's one of the first I remember going to out here, when we moved to Utah, we.
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went to.
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Game and Boise and I,
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We had to stop at the, at the Boise stage stop.
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And, um, one of the things that I found that was interesting about the Boise stage stop was that it is one of the oldest, continuously operating businesses in Idaho that started in 1891.
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So it was truly a stage stop,
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probably
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symbolize in in 18, 89, 18 91.
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Well, that was very cool.
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We'll hop right into our interview with Troy Jensen.
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I want to talk about truck, stop food.
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Okay.
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What, what, what was your favorite place to eat?
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Whether it's still open or not.
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And what's your favorite place today?
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Probably back when I started leaving the state was the travelers always this up there in twin falls?
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let's still there.
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That the same one.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if the food's as good as, it used to be, but that was my favorite for a long time.
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They opened a second.
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Right down by, uh, Chobani's plant.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I actually, I, so just this week I had gone out to Fernley and turned a guy around and he gave me a load of cans.
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I took those cans up to a Pocatello and I came through twin falls right across 74 or whatever it is.
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And then you drive by Chobani and there's a new travelers away SIS, right by the Chobani plant.
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Yeah.
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I mean the one out by the interstate is still there.
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I don't know that I've ever eaten That's the travelers racist.
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My favorite thing.
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I love chicken fried steak and they used to bring out.
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A chicken fried steak on One of those big oval plates that took the whole plate up and overlapped.
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the rest of your food was on a different
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Did you ever have one at BoomTown
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I didn't
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BoomTown was the same way?
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I only went through there, like maybe twice what it was an actual truck stop.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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I got stuck there one day for about 18 hours and yeah, the, I ordered the chicken fried steak.
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I want chicken fried steak fan too.
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And she says, do you want a full or a half?
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Oh, I'm pretty hungry.
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I suppose, the fall she says, are you sure?
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I'm like, yeah, she brought it out.
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It was bigger than my head, you know, it's like, oh,
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that's exactly what that lady up to Traveler's Oasis said, you want to hold her a half?
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And I says, well, a whole.
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And she says, are you sure you can eat that much?
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Well, how much is it?
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She brought it out in my eyeballs about fell out of my head.
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Holy shit.
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That's awesome.
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You ever eat at a oh, what's the one up there at the Boise stage stop.
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I haven't everybody's, you know, that's so many people's favorite place and I I've never been a big truck, truck stop.
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guy.
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I just.
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There was that, uh, I don't know if it's still open right there, and Wendell at farmers.
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you know what I'm talking.
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There's a little cafe and a little small, uh, truck stop Gas station.
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On the south side,
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Um, I know where you're talking about, but yeah.
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used to Stop in there quite a bit.
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When I was hauling milk up there.
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it was pretty good.
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I don't know why.
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Well, I like to eat.
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That's probably why, but I, as long as I can remember from when I first started driving, I stopped and ate at truck stops.
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I hardly ever packed food.
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You know, just snack stuff is all I'd ever pack, but I know I didn't even have a cooler in the truck for the first, gosh, I don't know, 10, 10 or 15 years.
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I drove.
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I stayed out of the truck stops, but there was a lot, you know, you weren't limited to whatever fast food joint was in the Truckstop either.
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Well, for me, you know, the first 28, to 30 years, that I drove I was hauling milk.
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So
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Um
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I didn't even, even when we were shipping it far, you know, we'd go to Vegas and the Phoenix and the Denver, their last little.
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And even then I didn't didn't stop that much.
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I, When I first started, we had a load up through Snellville and I'd stopped in tamales or in Snellville.
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Occasionally if I had time And back then they had really good breakfast but very rarely until I started pretty much for you guys.
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And I, I like truck stops.
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I just, other than the parking running.
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Grab a part or something.
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I I never, well, I never even had a truck with a sleeper on it until there was a long time, but I have found one place.
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that, Well, I take that back.
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When, When Cooper used to come with since I've been driving for Stokes, we stopped Oh, there's a place in and, uh, I'll I'll tuna That Speedway restaurant is that.
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Uh, Altoona Iowa.
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It's a, it's probably the it's at the pilot, but it was bought, it was a and, um, all the restaurants in Balsall mins were called grandma Max's I don't know if they still are.
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that we, we had some really good meals in there
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Yup.
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And then, Uh, The big, big one that, that restaurant in there was
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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See, I maybe it's maybe it's because of where I grew up trucking.
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Even really close to where my parents' farm was.
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So three miles from there was, there were two truck stops across the road from each other that were like old time, right in the, going back to the fifties, forties and fifties, that highway that my parents' farm was close to was the main highway between Omaha and Denver.
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So.
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Their house was about 40 miles, 40 to 50 miles west of Omaha.
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So it was one of the first places anybody would stop on their way to Denver or the last place they'd stop on their way from Denver to Omaha, you know that the meat hollers.
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So these two.
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Neither of them exist anymore.
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They're both gas stations now, but they're not truck stops.
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But when I was a little kid, they were still truck stops where truck drivers would, you know, we'd go in there for breakfast or in the afternoons, dad go there to have coffee and there'd be truck drivers in there stopping to have their.
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For the day.
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And when now I, this predates me, but my parents, my dad told me when they first moved there in the sixties, both of those were 24 hour restaurants, truck stops, right?
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Like full service.
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You pull up to the pump and.
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Like in smokey and the bandit, you know, fill it up, give me a Diablo sandwich and a Dr.
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Pepper.
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I'm like, God damn hurry.
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Right.
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Kind of place.
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So then when I started driving, because that was what I, you know, smoking in the bandit and BJ and the bear, that's kind of what I grew up on.
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I did stop at a lot of truck stops.
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Like I never left on time.
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I'd drive all night long and I'd stop at 24 hour restaurants.
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I dunno, I was horrible.
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I'm so lucky.
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I never got in trouble,
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I would have, if, if you know, they were there, Along the routes that I went there was there just wasn't that many,
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yeah, back in the Midwest, there were quite a few, I guess, like places like that, close to where I grew up.
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Um, but they don't exist hardly.
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Any of them exist anymore, you know?
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All right.
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Well, this was fun.
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Thanks for taking my call.
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Sure.
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Be careful.
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We'll uh, we'll we'll chat soon.
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One thing about east of the Mississippi though, those are the originals man.
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Like those are the kinds of places we can talk about this, but I always knew it was going to be a good place to eat if I walked in and I see.
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And Little jukeboxes at the booth.
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It was a bingo.
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this.
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is the spot.
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So tell me about Walcott about the IAT Iowa 80
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for 20 years.
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I think I remember eating there with, we've been to, we've been there before.
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probably
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Um, it's like the largest,
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it's the world's largest truck
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stop.
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that's their claim.
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And I don't know if they're going off of acreage or parking spaces or The stop itself.
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I mean, all, everything about it is huge.
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There's a gigantic truck museum.
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that they continue to add on to, trucking in the Midwest because of the location.
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Right.
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Walcott's 160 miles from Chicago.
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It's right in the center of the country, everything transited through there.
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So, so Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana,
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Ohio,
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I would call that like the of trucking.
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Right.
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And so the truck stops there
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kind of grew up around
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Yeah.
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And they were, they were the original ones that when we talk about restaurants and I said, if it had.
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a Jukebox in the booth.
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A lot of those places, when I first started driving, you could find those.
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I mean, it was regular you'd walk in somewhere and see, that.
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was that a truck stop restaurant in or the Ashland that had the big guy?
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Was it the Ashland?
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Oh, the happy chef.
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Yeah.
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They were as happy chefs all over the Midwest.
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There's still some of them up in Minnesota.
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There's a guy I follow on Instagram called his name's flannel Phillip.
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He He's like a Instagram influencer in
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trouble.
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I I'd say he actually drives up Peter.
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or.
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Kenworth pulls dump bucket local in Minnesota, but he does pin striping and
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all
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repair work and all kinds of things.
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on the
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remember the days when he used to paint your tires?
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he, don't tell anybody we gotta cut that out.
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final Phillip on Instagram.
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And He's a good follow.
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He he'd post a lot of trucking stuff, but just this week he posted a big
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point
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Did he drove by in Minnesota.
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Like he posts pictures of things like that.
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trucks.
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Yeah.
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They're all over the Midwest.
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I guess we ought to hop right into our interview with Larry claimants.
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Larry drives truck 6 77 for us.
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He's one of our newer drivers, but he's been around.
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He's got, a.
00:27:23.721 --> 00:27:28.941
want to throw his age out there, but I think he's pushing 40 years driving truck.
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So he knows his stuff.
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When it comes to truck stop restaurants So I'm wondering what your favorite Truckstop restaurant in your career has been, whether it's still still in business or not.
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oh, uh, it's Berets up in Montana on interstate 15.
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It's all home cooked.
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It's a small cafe.
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It's awesome.
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Food.
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where's it at
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Barrett's Montana.
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Barrett's Montana.
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That's the
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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It's it's uh, probably 20, maybe 20 miles south of.
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On interstate 15.
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Oh my God, mark.
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They got the best breakfast in burgers you'll ever eat.
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Everything's home cook.
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Yeah.
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The, even the bond, you know, they're not the bonds, like you'd get out of the, you know, the bag and that, you know, they're not even, you know, they're little smoked or whatever, but man, it's awesome food.
00:28:34.795 --> 00:28:35.515
all by hand.
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Huh?
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Yes.
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No kidding.
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And
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They And then like the, uh, sausage, uh, omelets that the Italian sausage.
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Oh my God.
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It's got an awesome taste.
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that's a, that's a new one.
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I've never, I've never heard of it.
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I don't think I've ever been up through
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yeah it's uh, like I say, it's probably maybe not 20 miles, maybe 12 miles, 10, 12 miles south of Dylan.
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Right on interstate 15 as you go past, uh, Glen's resume.
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And that it would be as bad as you go through that canyon.
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You'll see.
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Um, Gibbs' a Jetson plant on the right.
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And then on the very left as you go north, you'll see barracks, it's a small, it's a small truck stop con you know, I mean, it's not, you know, it's all gravel and dirt.
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I mean, there's, I think there's like two pumps for trucks, diesel trucks, and a couple for cars, but mark, you're get up there.
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You've got to stop.
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so, so it's not a chain at all.
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It's it's
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No no, no.
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Uh,
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awesome.
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I marked, you got to go there.
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If you ever get a chance.
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That's one of the things I miss about not going up in the Northwest because we always everybody's stopped at Barrett's and that,
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w maybe I'll have to go up there this summer.
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Me and me and my wife were talking about taking vacation.
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know what?
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Go up there.
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There's a, up on the 90.
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There's a neat place.
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It's right next to the Clark, uh, Clark, uh, w the, the Clark Clark river, I think it's a Clark river.
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It's uh, God, it's bear.
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Damn.
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I wish my memory was better.
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Bear lodge.
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I think it is.
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And it's rat the law.
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It's an old style hotel and it's red on the banks of the.
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And what's nice.
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There's a golf course, just up a few miles down the road
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Oh, really?
00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:40.960
that never played it, but it looks awesome.
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That's cool.
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Well, both, both those places sound awesome.
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I need, to
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yeah Oh yes.
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But I mean, you better have got the stuff at the Berets.
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I mean, it's, you know, there's a big devastation suit that fresh ground hamburger, not, you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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And, and, uh, you know, the thick slides is, uh, bacon and that, oh yeah, man, I'm hungry now.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, that's a good, but yeah, mark that's by far, my favorite far and away.
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Awesome.
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I'll uh, I'll take you up on it.
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I appreciate it.
00:31:26.904 --> 00:31:27.535
you bet.
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All right, Larry.
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That was all I needed.
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Okay.
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Thanks mark.
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We'll talk to you later, boss
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right.
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See you, sir.
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You have good day.
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Bye bye-bye.
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Okay, mark.
00:31:44.875 --> 00:31:49.285
So of these two truck stop restaurants, which one have you eaten at
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:51.279
which tour though is
00:31:51.684 --> 00:31:52.795
the taste of India,
00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:54.099
which is in.
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in over to Nebraska,
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exit 2 48.
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It's a former burns brothers truck stop.
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I would've eaten there when he was a burns brothers.
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Or
00:32:05.204 --> 00:32:07.095
haven't eaten there since
00:32:07.125 --> 00:32:10.664
you're answering, you're answering the question too fast.
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Or max is thunder road grill at the boss.
00:32:15.015 --> 00:32:18.285
So I have eaten at Max's thunder road grill.
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Now we gotta go back up a little bit, cause that used to be called grandma.
00:32:22.845 --> 00:32:23.204
Mack's.
00:32:24.134 --> 00:32:28.035
All the Bosselman truck stops had grandma Max's restaurants in them.
00:32:29.424 --> 00:32:32.684
I'm not sure when the Max's thunder road grill came around.
00:32:33.255 --> 00:32:40.424
I know I've eaten there one time since it's been rebranded and that's at exit three 12.
00:32:41.307 --> 00:32:45.375
On the north side of the road, it's pilot truck stop, but it used to be a boss Hillman's
00:32:45.555 --> 00:32:46.484
on IAT.
00:32:46.575 --> 00:32:48.315
in in, Nebraska
00:32:48.765 --> 00:32:50.115
at exit 2 48.
00:32:50.144 --> 00:32:51.525
Is this taste of India,
00:32:51.674 --> 00:32:57.704
which I've found on several sites is like the most popular Truckstop restaurant in Nebraska.
00:32:57.944 --> 00:33:03.644
you do a little Googling, you will find that there are people that drive hundreds of miles.
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:11.900
To eat at the taste of India at the overtime exit in Nebraska at, at an old burns brothers truck stop.
00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:15.259
Uh, not my kind of
00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:17.789
I would stop there.
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:29.019
Well, we usually, usually when we're tracking back to Nebraska, we got to stop at Yes The taco time of, of Nebraska.
00:33:31.349 --> 00:33:37.140
but I, I, I'm going to tell all the listeners that when we travel back to Nebraska,
00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:37.710
a family
00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:41.700
It has never drive through and grab food and keep on trucking.
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.400
It is we have to stop and eat
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:45.450
sit down
00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:52.019
and sit down and it, it comes from you and your truck driving and sitting at these restaurants
00:33:53.054 --> 00:33:53.750
well
00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:54.269
the road.
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And you don't want food in your truck.
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Yeah
00:33:56.069 --> 00:33:57.990
A lot of it is you guys are too messy to eat.
00:33:58.289 --> 00:34:01.829
vehicle think you're too
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:06.319
like, well, I to eat and not worry about spilling on
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:06.539
myself.
00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:13.250
sometimes when you're like, how'd you eat that so fast while I'm trying to eat it before it falls all over my lap.
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.519
So the quicker I can ingest it,
00:34:17.425 --> 00:34:18.835
And you had to get back out on the road tail,
00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:22.610
uh, back in the day.
00:34:22.849 --> 00:34:26.000
He didn't worry quite so much, but your schedule like you do today,
00:34:27.204 --> 00:34:32.005
well, to worry a lot more about my schedule for lunch.
00:34:32.775 --> 00:34:33.525
Taught high school.
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And I only a certain amount of
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.099
28 minutes between bells.
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probably.
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:39.590
All right.
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Let's uh, roll into our next interview with Gary Hughes driver of truck 6 83 Can I bug you a minute.
00:34:57.148 --> 00:34:57.389
Yup.
00:34:57.818 --> 00:35:00.083
I'm recording some segments for the podcast
00:35:00.338 --> 00:35:00.878
Okay.
00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:03.168
and I'm doing it on Truckstop food.
00:35:04.768 --> 00:35:05.188
Oh,
00:35:07.248 --> 00:35:15.521
So I'm trying to, I'm trying to call some of my older, more experienced drivers to find out where their favorite place to eat was.
00:35:16.449 --> 00:35:17.969
my favorite place used to be.
00:35:19.168 --> 00:35:22.108
Mini any Petro, just one of the iron skillets in there.
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.099
Yeah, the iron skillets used to be the best.
00:35:25.768 --> 00:35:27.599
When you say used to be how many years ago?
00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:28.759
I don't know.
00:35:28.759 --> 00:35:39.498
I'm going to say over the last, probably about 10 years ago and before that, but over the last 10 years, I, well, it was right around the time that TA bottom out.
00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:43.068
they, uh, they kind of went downhill.
00:35:43.074 --> 00:35:44.264
How one was that?
00:35:44.443 --> 00:35:47.623
Um, mid, mid two thousands, right?
00:35:47.623 --> 00:35:49.543
Like, oh 5 0 6, somewhere in there.
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Yeah, right around in there.
00:35:52.543 --> 00:35:55.333
Any other little independence you ever liked eating at?
00:35:56.128 --> 00:35:58.588
Uh, JJs and Arkansas.
00:35:58.619 --> 00:35:59.759
I think it's it though.
00:35:59.789 --> 00:36:00.898
1 0 5.
00:36:00.898 --> 00:36:03.119
They used to be pretty good, but I haven't been there.
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.068
And I'm going to say in probably 10, 12 years.
00:36:09.478 --> 00:36:11.210
Um, no, it's 30.
00:36:11.838 --> 00:36:16.579
Oh, down between a little rock and, and Dallas, I guess.
00:36:17.608 --> 00:36:18.778
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:18.809 --> 00:36:19.449
Right around there.
00:36:19.449 --> 00:36:21.989
It's Just south of, a little rock there.
00:36:22.608 --> 00:36:25.409
I think it's around the 1 0 5, 1 0 6 something like that.
00:36:25.409 --> 00:36:26.548
They used to be pretty good.
00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:39.097
And then my fate, my favorite all time, place to go eat breakfast would be the, pancake house and Gedo mills they're on and Texas.
00:36:40.014 --> 00:36:41.393
Hmm, that's a new one.
00:36:41.744 --> 00:36:43.284
That there's one I haven't heard of.
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Yeah.
00:36:44.833 --> 00:36:49.664
It's called the pancake house It's right across the street from the pilot there in Cato mills.
00:36:50.264 --> 00:36:57.943
You could go in there, sausage, egg, a couple of pancakes, French toast, whichever one you want a cup of coffee.
00:36:57.943 --> 00:36:59.523
And you'd get out of there for less than eight
00:37:00.833 --> 00:37:01.213
Really.
00:37:02.128 --> 00:37:02.458
Yeah.
00:37:02.518 --> 00:37:03.929
And it was actually pretty good.
00:37:06.809 --> 00:37:08.518
I mean, it, it was actually good.
00:37:08.518 --> 00:37:13.588
I mean, it wasn't, you could tell, uh, the sausage patties weren't like completely round.
00:37:13.619 --> 00:37:20.818
They would be know, it looked like he got Like he made them by hand, they'd be thrown you know, thrown together.
00:37:20.818 --> 00:37:25.079
and they, It wouldn't be perfectly round or, you know, frozen or anything like that.
00:37:26.128 --> 00:37:27.829
they were actually really, really
00:37:28.898 --> 00:37:29.199
Hmm.
00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:30.248
Okay.
00:37:30.278 --> 00:37:31.688
You got to look up the town.
00:37:33.463 --> 00:37:35.653
There is a truck stop at a town in Missouri.
00:37:35.653 --> 00:37:41.563
I used to drive through all the time that had, that was cheap.
00:37:41.653 --> 00:37:43.333
Like it was super cheap to eat at,
00:37:44.184 --> 00:37:44.603
Right?
00:37:44.804 --> 00:37:45.793
it tasted cheap.
00:37:47.233 --> 00:37:48.643
It was cheap for a reason,
00:37:49.813 --> 00:37:50.293
Right.
00:37:50.353 --> 00:37:55.123
There's a, used to be a place that we used to stop at, but I want to say.
00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:02.789
It's in Kentucky on I, 71, And I want to say It was just south of the racetrack there.
00:38:02.818 --> 00:38:11.188
When you got south of like a Walton Kentucky off of 71, I think it was like exit 62 and he'd get off the ramp and make a left.
00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:23.264
And they had truck parking and it looked like just a little hole in a wall, mom and pop place He used to go in there probably four or five times a month just to get in there when I was running And.
00:38:23.264 --> 00:38:26.173
uh, You could go in there and get a pretty decent meal.
00:38:26.653 --> 00:38:28.454
And I'd say if I remember right.
00:38:28.454 --> 00:38:39.463
And that's just been awhile, um, actually before I started pipeline and back in 2015, so it's been, I'm going to say probably eight or nine, maybe possibly 10 years.
00:38:39.943 --> 00:38:42.103
I don't even know if the place is still open, but it had BP.
00:38:42.103 --> 00:38:43.753
It was like a BP gas station.
00:38:43.784 --> 00:38:44.684
I had drug fuel.
00:38:45.143 --> 00:38:49.708
You go in there and sit down and And, uh, you could probably get out of there.
00:38:49.829 --> 00:38:51.688
I'd say probably 10 or 11 bucks.
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.009
And if you walked out.
00:38:53.009 --> 00:38:58.259
of there full, it was your own fault because they usually, the plate had more food on it than what you ever thought.
00:38:58.259 --> 00:38:59.039
it was going to have.
00:39:00.568 --> 00:39:05.009
Yeah, it was, they, They were really good and it was just a little mom and pop country place.
00:39:05.608 --> 00:39:08.458
And, uh, they were, they were, phenomenal,
00:39:08.943 --> 00:39:10.864
it was a little hole hole in a wall.
00:39:10.923 --> 00:39:14.054
Places always seemed to be the best
00:39:15.148 --> 00:39:20.518
And there was, um, a sub shop down on I 30 And.
00:39:20.548 --> 00:39:21.418
right there.
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.608
Let's see the da was no, it was the loves the loves.
00:39:26.608 --> 00:39:29.728
Was at one way off the exit And if you went the other way?
00:39:30.309 --> 00:39:33.039
We used to go in there and the best cheese, steak sandwiches.
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:39.159
You can imagine, They'd, he'd say they're a foot long, but they're probably, I'm going to say probably 14 to 16.
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:40.012
I mean, they were huge
00:39:40.304 --> 00:39:42.543
He always gave you more than what you were, what you.
00:39:42.608 --> 00:39:42.909
yeah.
00:39:42.938 --> 00:39:51.833
And by the, And by the time put all the stuff on it and all the toppings and melted the cheese on it, that thing was probably about as big around as a softball.
00:39:52.193 --> 00:39:53.454
I mean, it was two meals.
00:39:53.844 --> 00:39:57.744
You go in there and it'd be like six, six, you know, six, seven bucks.
00:39:58.523 --> 00:40:00.744
And you could eat half of it.
00:40:00.773 --> 00:40:05.184
Wrap the other half up, and stick it in there and nuke it later and make two meals out of it.
00:40:05.184 --> 00:40:06.193
It was so much food.
00:40:06.244 --> 00:40:08.108
I was just like, you don't see that anymore.
00:40:08.918 --> 00:40:14.528
My, uh, my crappy restaurant was the snappy Mart in west Plains, Missouri that's.
00:40:15.188 --> 00:40:15.938
I looked it up
00:40:16.733 --> 00:40:17.844
I think I know where you're
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:23.918
w west Plains is, uh, almost due north of little rock.
00:40:24.278 --> 00:40:29.199
Um, not too far north, the Arkansas border is on the west side of the road.
00:40:29.983 --> 00:40:31.213
just north of Fayetteville.
00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:37.028
Uh, no, this is over more like the I'd call it south central, Missouri.
00:40:37.809 --> 00:40:39.668
Right in the middle of Missouri.
00:40:40.268 --> 00:40:43.059
So I delivered cooking oil to Batesville, Arkansas.
00:40:43.088 --> 00:40:44.199
There's a chicken plant there.
00:40:45.398 --> 00:40:49.478
And west Plains I'd stopped to get coffee quite often.
00:40:49.778 --> 00:40:54.548
Um, and they had a restaurant that had really, it was really cheap.
00:40:55.028 --> 00:41:01.418
Like I had a buddy that we made fun of him because he was cheap and he loved stopping there to eat, but it was cheap.
00:41:01.449 --> 00:41:02.168
It was cheap.
00:41:02.228 --> 00:41:05.048
Like it tasted, it was terrible.
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:06.429
It was terrible.
00:41:08.003 --> 00:41:10.224
But you could eat there for like five bucks, you know?
00:41:10.224 --> 00:41:11.603
I mean, you'd fill you up.
00:41:12.958 --> 00:41:14.478
you don't find waste as I get any
00:41:14.603 --> 00:41:22.134
No, no, there is another place on the north side of Batesville it was like the biggest barbecue restaurant in Batesville.
00:41:22.164 --> 00:41:27.443
They, they were, they were smoking about 20 pork butts a day, every day.
00:41:27.474 --> 00:41:30.443
So I'd go by, I'd go by there at two or three in the morning.
00:41:30.443 --> 00:41:31.134
And the smoker was.
00:41:32.244 --> 00:41:36.534
Because they were smoking all night long for, for the food for the whole day.
00:41:36.534 --> 00:41:45.353
I could go in there eight in the morning and get fresh right out of the smoker, pulled pork that they just pulled, you know, um, great.
00:41:45.414 --> 00:41:46.793
They had great barbecue.
00:41:47.483 --> 00:41:55.974
I can't, that was like a, uh, Conoco or something just right on the north side at, uh, Batesville, just a little, little, little truck.
00:41:55.974 --> 00:41:56.304
Stop.
00:41:56.463 --> 00:41:57.903
Anyway, the good old days.
00:41:57.963 --> 00:41:58.233
So
00:41:58.293 --> 00:41:59.373
And then, and
00:41:59.494 --> 00:41:59.943
you were,
00:42:00.081 --> 00:42:00.634
then a
00:42:00.724 --> 00:42:07.083
mentioned a lot of stuff on I guess you were running from Ohio to California.
00:42:08.164 --> 00:42:15.244
a lot of, Well, yeah, that a lot of Texas, um, we got a lot, of rent, a lot of air freight down to Southern Texas.
00:42:16.568 --> 00:42:19.929
Uh, San Antonio, Dallas Waco.
00:42:20.469 --> 00:42:25.148
Um, Matter of fact, we used to go down there and there was a little gas station off that exit.
00:42:25.148 --> 00:42:27.505
And I can remember to tell you what exit it was.
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.048
Um, it's right there, where the Waco airport was and we were running air freight down.
00:42:32.048 --> 00:42:34.389
There And when, uh, George Bush Jr.
00:42:34.389 --> 00:42:38.318
Was president and we would get off the exit.
00:42:38.798 --> 00:42:44.018
And I guess when he came in, when he flew in, I guess he lived down in that area.
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:53.103
I'm not sure exactly where at, in that area, but we would come down there and they would have the road blocked off and We'd have to park at that gas station and go in.
00:42:53.103 --> 00:42:55.474
And I go in there and grab something to eat while we were waiting.
00:42:56.014 --> 00:43:07.233
And we'd have to wait for either him to land and watch his little entourage, you know, his little secret service guys and him or whoever, they would go flying out at a hundred mile an hour.
00:43:07.653 --> 00:43:14.628
And then they'd open it back up after his plane took back off, or if he was leaving, we'd have to wait for his plane to take off for us.
00:43:14.628 --> 00:43:15.903
to be able to get into the terminal.
00:43:16.278 --> 00:43:16.579
Hmm.
00:43:17.059 --> 00:43:17.603
Interesting.
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.318
There was another place real quick.
00:43:20.378 --> 00:43:25.028
Uh, south on the way down to Florida and lake park, Georgia, big Ed's barbecue.
00:43:25.449 --> 00:43:29.139
The only place on earth I've ever found to get barbecued Tuna,
00:43:29.789 --> 00:43:30.298
really?
00:43:31.224 --> 00:43:31.673
Yeah.
00:43:32.514 --> 00:43:33.923
used to advertise that.
00:43:34.349 --> 00:43:35.338
no kidding.
00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:36.059
Like smoke.
00:43:37.403 --> 00:43:37.643
Yup.
00:43:37.764 --> 00:43:41.724
He will actually smoke the tuna and based it, in barbecue sauce.
00:43:42.744 --> 00:43:44.153
never thought it sounded good.
00:43:44.184 --> 00:43:44.994
but I'm not going to lie.
00:43:45.023 --> 00:43:55.253
It's actually pretty damn Doesn't sound very appealing, but It's actually pretty good, but it was big ass barbecue in lake park.
00:43:55.253 --> 00:43:55.588
Georgia.
00:43:55.898 --> 00:43:56.648
Well, there's a new one.
00:43:56.949 --> 00:43:57.998
Never heard of that one either.
00:43:58.059 --> 00:43:59.918
I've been through there, but never heard of that.
00:44:01.028 --> 00:44:01.449
One of these
00:44:01.568 --> 00:44:04.449
He was a C the TA was at exit two.
00:44:05.048 --> 00:44:09.458
I don't remember where the pilot was at, but I believe, uh, he was an exit six.
00:44:10.329 --> 00:44:12.878
And he always advertised on the CB you'd drive by.
00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:15.068
And it'd be come in and come in and try it.
00:44:15.099 --> 00:44:16.239
big heads, barbecue.
00:44:17.018 --> 00:44:23.349
And he'd sit there And barbecue ribs, barbecue, this barbecue, that, and I heard barbecue tuna one day and I was like, okay.
00:44:24.398 --> 00:44:28.778
Never heard of that, make it a point on the way back up we stopped.
00:44:28.838 --> 00:44:29.949
It was actually pretty good.
00:44:30.333 --> 00:44:30.813
cool.
00:44:32.534 --> 00:44:33.193
Thank you.
00:44:34.108 --> 00:44:34.679
Not a problem.
00:44:34.844 --> 00:44:35.083
All right.
00:44:35.143 --> 00:44:35.414
See ya.
00:44:44.971 --> 00:44:45.150
Okay.
00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:53.161
So another, another Truckstop cafe that I'm not sure that you've stopped at is the canned Coon Mexican restaurant in beaver, Utah.
00:44:53.371 --> 00:44:55.231
I've I have eaten there.
00:44:55.981 --> 00:44:58.650
So this is off your list of the best Truckstop and every
00:44:58.981 --> 00:44:59.760
in every, state
00:45:00.630 --> 00:45:03.391
We'll post a link to this list in the show notes.
00:45:05.101 --> 00:45:09.360
If I remember right, this is inside the flying J and I've had street tacos from there.
00:45:09.871 --> 00:45:10.501
They're good.
00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:11.340
They're decent.
00:45:11.701 --> 00:45:15.391
I would not call it the best Trex Truckstop restaurant in Utah.
00:45:16.101 --> 00:45:17.780
but they do have handmade tamales
00:45:18.001 --> 00:45:20.130
Well, who
00:45:20.181 --> 00:45:21.561
and tacos and margaritas.
00:45:23.940 --> 00:45:24.365
Really,
00:45:24.561 --> 00:45:25.521
That's what it says.
00:45:25.590 --> 00:45:35.431
maybe this isn't the one I'm thinking of, then maybe I haven't eaten I might be totally wrong about So I think me personally, this is me.
00:45:36.061 --> 00:45:43.981
The best truck stop restaurant today in Utah is trails west in green river, Utah.
00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:46.791
The
00:45:47.056 --> 00:45:49.996
Flying J jails west is next door.
00:45:50.146 --> 00:45:58.126
It's what I'd call one of the old classics, kind of very close, a close second.
00:45:59.056 --> 00:46:01.365
I would say the ranch house in Snellville,
00:46:02.746 --> 00:46:03.666
all these
00:46:03.766 --> 00:46:04.786
I mean, Molly's is
00:46:05.516 --> 00:46:05.666
it's
00:46:05.806 --> 00:46:06.255
of what you'd
00:46:07.166 --> 00:46:09.206
It's is that the, that's the one on the other side of The road
00:46:09.465 --> 00:46:11.655
is on the other side of the road quite often.
00:46:11.666 --> 00:46:12.206
If I'm
00:46:13.106 --> 00:46:15.056
Running out there that direction.
00:46:15.356 --> 00:46:18.626
I make a point to stop at the ranch house and have a burger and a salad.
00:46:18.896 --> 00:46:22.675
If I have time, I try to, pretty good.
00:46:23.786 --> 00:46:28.735
There's not a whole lot of truck stop restaurants anymore.
00:46:28.766 --> 00:46:29.606
This one in beaver.
00:46:29.606 --> 00:46:30.655
I don't, I'm not familiar with it.
00:46:30.655 --> 00:46:31.135
I'm sure.
00:46:31.255 --> 00:46:31.585
I'm sure.
00:46:31.585 --> 00:46:32.556
One of my drivers is
00:46:32.911 --> 00:46:37.530
we'll have to, um, have to try it the next time we're headed that direction.
00:46:37.795 --> 00:46:38.275
We will.
00:46:39.735 --> 00:46:43.275
Let's hop into our interview with Bruce grow.
00:46:43.425 --> 00:46:46.905
Bruce is a owner operator who pulls our trailers.
00:46:46.965 --> 00:46:47.985
He's been with us.
00:46:48.315 --> 00:46:49.005
Oh boy.
00:46:49.096 --> 00:46:50.445
Um, a few years.
00:46:50.746 --> 00:46:53.025
I'm going to say four or five years, maybe six.
00:46:53.476 --> 00:46:54.076
It's been awhile.
00:46:54.135 --> 00:46:57.246
We love having Bruce around and we'll talk to him next.
00:47:07.693 --> 00:47:17.353
You just the what stop and eat at truck stops before you felt like he was on the clock, that many you started your day till the day.
00:47:17.733 --> 00:47:18.612
Hell it ends
00:47:18.672 --> 00:47:20.172
yeah, back in the day.
00:47:20.322 --> 00:47:20.532
but
00:47:20.862 --> 00:47:21.913
back in the day.
00:47:22.992 --> 00:47:27.043
I'm trying to, I'm trying to check with some of the more experienced drivers.
00:47:27.853 --> 00:47:28.333
Great.
00:47:28.432 --> 00:47:36.643
I'm not calling you old, Bruce, your experienced w what was your favorite place to stop back when you had time to stop
00:47:37.282 --> 00:47:43.943
Uh, usually the Petro and PA because of the, the buffet with choices.
00:47:44.092 --> 00:47:46.882
iron skillet, dire and scale at the Petro.
00:47:48.052 --> 00:47:48.322
Yeah.
00:47:49.012 --> 00:47:52.163
Was there any little mom and pops you'd ever stop at?
00:47:53.793 --> 00:47:54.182
Oh yeah.
00:47:54.182 --> 00:47:59.193
There was a place down in mom and pops place in Roswell, New Mexico.
00:47:59.193 --> 00:47:59.373
And.
00:48:00.268 --> 00:48:04.527
And we usually was coming through there on a Friday afternoon.
00:48:04.527 --> 00:48:06.657
And that was catfish night.
00:48:07.588 --> 00:48:09.538
Their catfish down there was pretty good.
00:48:09.632 --> 00:48:10.233
Oh, really?
00:48:10.742 --> 00:48:11.943
Do you don't remember the name of it?
00:48:11.943 --> 00:48:12.273
Do you?
00:48:13.318 --> 00:48:16.077
and no, not for sure.
00:48:16.728 --> 00:48:19.768
It was on, it was on the north end of Roswell.
00:48:19.768 --> 00:48:22.737
The only stop that they had down there years ago.
00:48:24.552 --> 00:48:31.393
Yeah, I I've been through there, but it's been, it's been years since I've been through there too.
00:48:32.413 --> 00:48:32.532
Yeah.
00:48:32.588 --> 00:48:33.907
same, same here.
00:48:33.938 --> 00:48:35.677
It's been a lot of years.
00:48:35.677 --> 00:48:36.818
This is back in the
00:48:37.972 --> 00:48:38.393
Nice.
00:48:38.677 --> 00:48:40.117
and know,
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back.
00:48:42.302 --> 00:48:46.472
When, when you used to stop once or twice a day to eat, actually sit down and eat a meal,
00:48:47.057 --> 00:48:47.478
yeah.
00:48:47.478 --> 00:48:51.588
When you stop, when you used to stop and sit down and eat a meal and then.
00:48:52.873 --> 00:48:55.032
Slept five hours at night and took off again.
00:48:58.813 --> 00:49:03.362
That's that's that's that's that's the way you did it back then.
00:49:03.373 --> 00:49:06.612
So you had time to stop and eat and still get where you needed to be.
00:49:06.813 --> 00:49:16.563
That would be an interesting study to see if we were, if we were healthier than cause We were actually taking time to you didn't you.
00:49:16.563 --> 00:49:17.432
Weren't always rushed.
00:49:17.432 --> 00:49:17.762
right?
00:49:17.762 --> 00:49:19.503
Like What was it?
00:49:19.503 --> 00:49:20.163
healthier?
00:49:21.628 --> 00:49:23.038
Not have to stop.
00:49:23.068 --> 00:49:29.157
for 10 hours a night and be able to take your time, or is it healthier the way it is today?
00:49:30.588 --> 00:49:30.887
I don't know.
00:49:30.887 --> 00:49:42.318
The doctor said it must be healthier the way I'm doing it today because he said, he says, he says over the last 15 years, I've lost about 20 pounds, 25 pounds.
00:49:42.318 --> 00:49:44.148
Since I first started going and saying,
00:49:44.608 --> 00:49:47.112
oh, no Well, good for you.
00:49:47.862 --> 00:49:51.253
See, you just, you just blew my thesis out of the water right there, Bruce.
00:49:51.717 --> 00:49:52.077
Yeah.
00:49:52.617 --> 00:49:53.068
Yeah.
00:49:53.157 --> 00:50:02.847
Well, the problem is, is when you, when you sit down and eat, you know, two square meals a day, you know, you just didn't settle for the salad bar.
00:50:02.847 --> 00:50:11.307
You know, you had something else, I guess back then, if it was settling for the salad bar, then I guess we probably wouldn't have had the 25 pounds to lose.
00:50:11.307 --> 00:50:11.728
Right.
00:50:12.072 --> 00:50:12.733
That's true.
00:50:15.402 --> 00:50:19.963
You're the, you're the second one I've talked to that's uh, mentioned the iron skillet.
00:50:19.963 --> 00:50:27.972
I I've, I mean, Back when, that was kind of a regular stop for me, I guess.
00:50:28.063 --> 00:50:29.472
And it was because of the salad bar.
00:50:29.472 --> 00:50:30.313
I'm a salad bar.
00:50:30.492 --> 00:50:30.853
guy.
00:50:32.103 --> 00:50:33.432
I like salad bars.
00:50:33.643 --> 00:50:34.213
Um,
00:50:34.478 --> 00:50:46.688
Well, there was, there was another thing to even be even going on back then, you know, most of the Petros and th you know, especially the Petros had, you know, good sized parking lot.
00:50:46.688 --> 00:50:49.657
So when you got there, you always felt like you could find you a place to.
00:50:50.262 --> 00:50:51.492
Yeah, that's true.
00:50:51.822 --> 00:50:52.302
You bet.
00:50:52.498 --> 00:50:52.918
Yeah.
00:50:53.248 --> 00:51:02.518
I remember watching, uh, the 50th anniversary of the Superbowl in the Petro, outside their Atlanta, Georgia.
00:51:04.378 --> 00:51:07.827
Uh, the one on the west side of town or south of town?
00:51:08.887 --> 00:51:12.277
uh, the one kind of on a, I don't know.
00:51:14.608 --> 00:51:14.998
Well,
00:51:15.217 --> 00:51:17.527
Well, we're up to 56 last year.
00:51:17.527 --> 00:51:18.728
That's six years ago.
00:51:19.603 --> 00:51:19.753
Yeah,
00:51:20.277 --> 00:51:21.538
there's a Petro.
00:51:21.748 --> 00:51:26.878
I think there's a Petro just on the west side of Atlanta, like on the west end.
00:51:26.967 --> 00:51:29.068
um, on the loop, right?
00:51:29.097 --> 00:51:30.777
on the 2, 2 85 loop.
00:51:30.777 --> 00:51:31.438
I think it is.
00:51:32.152 --> 00:51:32.563
That's fine.
00:51:33.163 --> 00:51:33.643
Okay.
00:51:33.672 --> 00:51:34.032
Yeah.
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There's another one south of town.
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I guess.
00:51:36.943 --> 00:51:37.902
It's Macon.
00:51:37.932 --> 00:51:39.463
It's quite a way south of Atlanta.
00:51:40.663 --> 00:51:41.233
it's making
00:51:41.382 --> 00:51:45.822
I've been been to that one too, but that one's not near as big as one.
00:51:51.463 --> 00:51:51.972
man.
00:51:53.342 --> 00:51:56.612
And then you go from Atlanta, Georgia to the next year.
00:51:56.612 --> 00:51:56.882
Yup.
00:51:56.943 --> 00:52:03.963
They're watching it in, in North Dakota when it's minus five degrees for the high, during the day.
00:52:05.007 --> 00:52:05.427
boy.
00:52:08.757 --> 00:52:17.847
then a couple of years later, your watch, well, it was 2019 when he was actually a lot of, to watch truck stops, you know, in a truck stop.
00:52:18.268 --> 00:52:26.038
So that's when 49ers and the Kansas city chiefs played in, made that up to PA and trout.
00:52:26.128 --> 00:52:27.237
They only watch that one up.
00:52:28.108 --> 00:52:31.527
COVID was perfect for all the Truckstops get rid of their tracker lounges.
00:52:31.527 --> 00:52:31.858
Right.
00:52:34.737 --> 00:52:38.637
some of them have, some of them are just using them as storage.
00:52:38.637 --> 00:52:44.217
And if you can lean against the box, you'll, you know, stuff, they got slack there.
00:52:44.217 --> 00:52:45.927
They'll still let you watch the TV.
00:52:50.128 --> 00:52:51.148
All right, Bruce.
00:52:51.447 --> 00:52:53.338
Well, I appreciate you taking.
00:52:54.108 --> 00:52:54.858
anytime.
00:52:54.983 --> 00:52:55.762
All right, buddy.
00:52:55.762 --> 00:52:56.572
Be careful.
00:52:56.722 --> 00:52:57.233
Okay.
00:52:57.262 --> 00:52:57.802
Thanks.
00:53:06.853 --> 00:53:07.182
Okay.
00:53:07.543 --> 00:53:13.213
Here's one that I wanted to talk to you about before I asked you about the one Val is going to talk about.
00:53:13.932 --> 00:53:17.172
This is the Sonic at Gore's travel Plaza and it looks like.
00:53:18.302 --> 00:53:19.503
Salian Oklahoma.
00:53:20.253 --> 00:53:24.932
S E I L I N Oklahoma.
00:53:24.963 --> 00:53:27.063
Yes it does.
00:53:27.092 --> 00:53:27.333
Okay.
00:53:27.333 --> 00:53:39.932
So you all know that Sonic doesn't offer that homemade food, but this place actually has a fast food joint with truck accessible car hops, and you can pull your semis in to.
00:53:41.103 --> 00:53:43.623
Order your at this place?
00:53:44.282 --> 00:53:50.672
Um, I was, when I was researching for this episode, we thought that
00:53:50.838 --> 00:53:51.378
that's pretty
00:53:51.603 --> 00:53:53.193
that is an idea.
00:53:53.947 --> 00:53:56.807
So you found another list of the top 12,
00:53:57.034 --> 00:53:57.273
right?
00:53:58.007 --> 00:54:01.577
And the very first one on the list is the thunder road.
00:54:01.967 --> 00:54:04.938
Max's thunder road, restaurant grand island, which we've already talked
00:54:05.012 --> 00:54:05.432
Right.
00:54:05.867 --> 00:54:07.097
But number two
00:54:07.202 --> 00:54:09.722
is the outpost cafe in Oak Hills, California,
00:54:10.007 --> 00:54:12.887
is one that's one that Val talks about
00:54:13.322 --> 00:54:18.302
Does he talk about, does he talk about hot beer, lousy food and bad service?
00:54:19.333 --> 00:54:22.233
No, he does not talk any of those things.
00:54:22.262 --> 00:54:26.882
Well, evidently the reason why people like it is because they have this great sense of humor.
00:54:31.217 --> 00:54:36.407
So the online reviews of the cafe proved the negativity is all in fun.
00:54:36.677 --> 00:54:50.538
They've got great cheeseburgers and steaks and their staff is really friendly, but they're at that pilot, um, travel center on I 15, they have a laundromat, a laundromat, a game room, 11 showers in the chapel.
00:54:50.742 --> 00:54:52.813
There's a lot of things right there at that exit.
00:54:53.353 --> 00:54:55.378
It's one of Val's favorite haunts.
00:54:56.382 --> 00:55:00.282
I don't think I've ever eaten there, but the next time I go to LA, I got to stop.
00:55:00.733 --> 00:55:16.938
So here's our interview with Val Stokes So in the past you told me like the one that's still open today.
00:55:16.938 --> 00:55:19.427
That's your favorite is the outpost.
00:55:19.902 --> 00:55:20.293
Oh yeah.
00:55:20.302 --> 00:55:22.213
The outpost is a fun place to stop.
00:55:23.027 --> 00:55:24.518
I don't know if I've ever eaten there.
00:55:24.557 --> 00:55:26.657
It's a Hisperia
00:55:26.853 --> 00:55:29.789
yeah, Hold on a little sense of J or a pilot there.
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.110
I think it's a pilot up there.
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on top of the hill.
00:55:32.472 --> 00:55:34.152
3 95 merges on
00:55:34.402 --> 00:55:38.032
Is that restaurants out in the, out, in the parking lot, right?
00:55:38.452 --> 00:55:38.722
Like
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:40.759
here.
00:55:40.759 --> 00:55:44.255
it's over, closer to each, between the off ramp.
00:55:44.255 --> 00:55:44.485
and
00:55:45.552 --> 00:55:47.112
So what do you eat when you go there?
00:55:47.652 --> 00:55:49.601
What'd you eat the last time you were at the app post
00:55:50.065 --> 00:55:51.016
probably a salad.
00:55:51.025 --> 00:55:53.545
The hamburger, not breakfast.
00:55:56.215 --> 00:55:58.675
Uh, when was the first time you ever ate at the outpost?
00:55:59.228 --> 00:56:01.208
probably 40 years ago.
00:56:03.878 --> 00:56:04.539
I didn't know.
00:56:04.539 --> 00:56:05.108
It was Still?
00:56:05.108 --> 00:56:12.039
there either until, you know, a few years ago, when I took a load down that way I knew I was going to have to stop and rest.
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.795
There So I was getting off the freeway.
00:56:14.795 --> 00:56:16.746
I looked over there who saw it.
00:56:16.746 --> 00:56:18.429
So I got parked.
00:56:18.489 --> 00:56:19.309
Did my 10.
00:56:19.806 --> 00:56:23.777
Well, I walked over there and had breakfast.
00:56:24.425 --> 00:56:25.146
It's pretty sweet
00:56:25.606 --> 00:56:36.465
So is there any place back in the day when you were a truck and way back when, where you, you made sure you stopped when you were going somewhere?
00:56:40.077 --> 00:56:41.516
it's all city now.
00:56:41.786 --> 00:56:52.856
So on the south side of Los Vegas, but it was it wasn't before, like once you got by the airport, you're in the desert and there was an exit there for per ramp.
00:56:53.367 --> 00:57:02.637
There was a union 76 Truckstop there, and they had a good restaurant I'd usually stop there and get some fuel and get a bite to eat.
00:57:02.637 --> 00:57:05.547
Then make my way on down, shake it down.
00:57:07.617 --> 00:57:09.806
They had good restaurants and all their trucks.
00:57:09.806 --> 00:57:13.077
dogs Where the, where the pilot is.
00:57:13.077 --> 00:57:23.007
And when a McKay, he used to be a union, 76 Truckstop too, also many, you know, way, way back then they had a restaurant in there.
00:57:23.277 --> 00:57:24.177
It was decent.
00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:25.489
I don't think
00:57:25.518 --> 00:57:30.588
And they had one at grand island that I stopped at sometimes.
00:57:32.509 --> 00:57:35.869
but I used WhatsApp.
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.759
Well, there was a union 76 truck stop there.
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.159
Oh, it's west to west of grand island.
00:57:43.818 --> 00:57:44.329
Yeah.
00:57:44.358 --> 00:57:45.409
still there wood river.
00:57:45.498 --> 00:57:45.858
Yeah.
00:57:48.668 --> 00:57:50.829
And I'd usually, if I.
00:57:52.293 --> 00:58:07.594
I happened to coincide with a mealtime ID there at north Platte to, I seek that was a Husky truck stops there and they had a truck wash there too, a little independent truck wash just on the backside of the lot that was not bad.
00:58:08.224 --> 00:58:09.873
And There was almost never a line there.
00:58:09.873 --> 00:58:12.784
So sometimes I'd stop there and get a Washington
00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:18.818
back in the day.
00:58:18.829 --> 00:58:25.333
But all, But all the, there were a lot of independent truck stops in those days.
00:58:27.378 --> 00:58:35.809
And all of them had, a good restaurant I thought, you know, maybe I just didn't know what good food was back then, too.
00:58:37.188 --> 00:58:40.489
it seemed like, you know, they'd have a variety of stuff on the menu.
00:58:41.179 --> 00:58:53.179
If you stop with any of these places now, it's, you know, whatever Wendy serves or you know, Carl's Jr or subway, you know, and I guess.
00:58:53.179 --> 00:58:54.048
That's okay.
00:58:54.048 --> 00:59:02.688
But A little variety It'd be, I mean, places that always had a special what's a special tonight.
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.099
You could always get a good dinner
00:59:05.148 --> 00:59:05.539
Yeah.
00:59:07.213 --> 00:59:18.184
I have no idea what the name of it was, but there was a pretty good place in Madison, Wisconsin, too, that I always used to go to, go on a regular basis for quite a little while.
00:59:19.264 --> 00:59:23.134
I can't remember the name of the place but there was a decent one there.
00:59:24.469 --> 00:59:28.068
I don't remember there ever being a Truckstop in Madison itself.
00:59:29.088 --> 00:59:31.699
There's one on either side of town that
00:59:33.994 --> 00:59:35.434
It's been a long, long time.
00:59:36.648 --> 00:59:39.259
they were just fuel stops too, you know?
00:59:40.143 --> 00:59:40.324
Yeah.
00:59:40.333 --> 00:59:49.143
There was places One of the like bingo maybe a few of The guys will remember the bingo, feel stops.
00:59:49.143 --> 00:59:51.784
I don't want to say Truckstop cause they're just cheap.
00:59:52.353 --> 00:59:53.943
Gurindji achieved.
00:59:53.943 --> 00:59:55.173
Feel, feel stopped.
00:59:59.302 --> 01:00:01.103
a little independent mom and pop.
01:00:01.103 --> 01:00:05.422
I stopped at one in Indiana on it was on a two lane road.
01:00:05.422 --> 01:00:09.713
I had a, you remember back in the day when they used to have the truck stop directories.
01:00:11.588 --> 01:00:11.978
Right.
01:00:12.108 --> 01:00:20.407
And you could, you could look up all the different truck stops, no matter what road it was on in the directory, it was split up by state.
01:00:20.887 --> 01:00:26.617
So that was like, you know, when I started driving, we didn't really have cell phones.
01:00:26.617 --> 01:00:27.128
Yeah.
01:00:27.157 --> 01:00:27.577
Yeah.
01:00:27.757 --> 01:00:32.018
And I was, everything was new territory to me when I first started driving.
01:00:32.617 --> 01:00:34.597
So I wore out that little truck stop dress.
01:00:35.588 --> 01:00:47.288
And it would tell you how many parking spaces they had and if they had a restaurant and if they're open 24 hours and showers and all that stuff, you so I stopped in this little, I can't remember the town.
01:00:47.887 --> 01:00:49.027
It was tiny.
01:00:49.737 --> 01:00:51.038
It was the last truck stop.
01:00:51.068 --> 01:00:53.318
I had like 20 miles to go to wherever I was delivering.
01:00:54.458 --> 01:00:55.057
And I bought.
01:00:56.393 --> 01:00:59.362
And I walk in and I'm like, I need a shower.
01:00:59.483 --> 01:01:01.432
She says, you're going to take a shower here.
01:01:04.012 --> 01:01:06.472
And I'm like, yeah, I need a shower, bad.
01:01:06.822 --> 01:01:08.003
I was pulling flatbed.
01:01:08.032 --> 01:01:12.833
You know, I said all I really needs a hose hose and some soap.
01:01:12.833 --> 01:01:15.023
And she says, that's pretty much what you're getting.
01:01:16.313 --> 01:01:17.483
She wasn't far off.
01:01:17.483 --> 01:01:17.992
It was.
01:01:18.172 --> 01:01:18.922
Hmm, boy.
01:01:20.780 --> 01:01:32.420
So that's one thing I'll say is probably better now than back then, although you might have to wait, your turn, but these truck stops now, but they have good shots.
01:01:34.545 --> 01:01:36.346
And they take Pretty good care of them.
01:01:36.556 --> 01:01:36.945
the ones.
01:01:36.945 --> 01:01:42.076
I've been in in the back then, You know, all these independent truck stops.
01:01:42.076 --> 01:01:44.896
That might be pretty nice, but it might be.
01:01:44.985 --> 01:01:49.456
like what you described bad news, you know,
01:01:51.030 --> 01:01:52.650
Um, good times.
01:01:52.891 --> 01:01:54.331
It was kind of fun back in the day.
01:01:54.331 --> 01:01:56.460
Not really knowing what you're going to get, you know?
01:02:00.615 --> 01:02:12.346
Yeah the crossroads here in Treemont and out there, There was a well, I worked out there when there was a truck stop for off and on for some years, and then you got a good cafe there.
01:02:13.635 --> 01:02:14.235
You know, it wasn't.
01:02:14.235 --> 01:02:14.686
a chain.
01:02:14.686 --> 01:02:19.275
It was Just a nice cafe, a decent meals there.
01:02:20.391 --> 01:02:24.951
so you might know this, um, Angie's here in Logan.
01:02:25.731 --> 01:02:31.911
Was that, uh, back in the day, a trucker hang out at all truck drivers?
01:02:32.030 --> 01:02:32.420
No,
01:02:32.565 --> 01:02:33.856
No, I don't think so.
01:02:34.846 --> 01:02:39.780
I see Well, I think if you went back in time for enough that Might've been a samples.
01:02:44.820 --> 01:02:46.831
That I don't even know that night.
01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:47.731
Well, I mean, I know that
01:02:47.976 --> 01:02:51.126
uh, there were a few of them around way back.
01:02:51.456 --> 01:02:52.416
It was like a chain.
01:02:52.806 --> 01:02:55.295
It was kind of like a Danny's, you know, kind of like a diner
01:02:55.590 --> 01:02:56.070
Okay.
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All right.
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Hmm.
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All right.
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So, I don't know.
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My memory is not good enough to help you out very much.
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but you know, another thing I don't, it wasn't this.
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Thanksgiving, But a year, a year and a half ago on Thanksgiving, I was coming home from LA.
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I delivered down there on Thanksgiving morning, and Jimmy was able to get a load of bananas, like pick up.
01:03:22.666 --> 01:03:24.045
that morning and head home.
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So all the way up the road I was thinking about this, when I, when I was young, when w when I was driving, just, you know, back into the Midwest, all those places, out at a restaurant And they'd always give you a free dinner on Thanksgiving And that whole day driving home, I drove all the way up to like, I dunno where I stopped.
01:03:52.516 --> 01:03:53.295
down around.
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I probably made it blue.
01:04:00.755 --> 01:04:01.856
I didn't make it to defy.
01:04:01.856 --> 01:04:13.905
I can't remember somewhere down there, I couldn't join anything even open, you know, let alone a decent That was, it was just, it's just a lot different now.
01:04:14.536 --> 01:04:18.226
I think They just expect you to deliver the goods and live on follow-up and sugar.
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nowadays.
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Well, it's all in places.
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Nobody has time to stop and eat anymore.
01:04:28.675 --> 01:04:30.206
Well, there's that too.
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We had a lot.
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It seems like we had all kinds of time to stop and have a decent meal.
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know.
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And mosey on down the road.
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We were never racing the clock.
01:04:42.376 --> 01:04:44.175
It didn't seem like so,
01:04:45.780 --> 01:04:48.871
You're going fast because you want it to not cause you had to.
01:04:51.210 --> 01:04:51.420
Hmm.
01:04:52.501 --> 01:04:53.070
All right.
01:04:53.896 --> 01:04:58.365
I guess that's why most of these guys nowadays carry a lot of their food with them.
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refrigerators.
01:05:00.130 --> 01:05:00.880
Microwaves.
01:05:03.311 --> 01:05:03.701
Yup.
01:05:05.405 --> 01:05:06.186
Alright.
01:05:06.490 --> 01:05:06.791
good.
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Thanks.
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My pleasure.
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Talk to you later.
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great interview with Val.
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:27.420
I love having him on the podcast whenever he has a chance to join me, or I have a reason to call him maybe as what I should say.
01:05:29.101 --> 01:05:31.530
I'm a little under prepared for this episode.
01:05:31.530 --> 01:05:33.931
So I don't really have a question from the road.
01:05:34.635 --> 01:05:36.226
But I've got a question for you.
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Okay.
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What's
01:05:37.726 --> 01:05:40.846
So you've been in, you've been in the industry for awhile.
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You started off pretty young driving truck.
01:05:45.585 --> 01:05:59.896
Um, and I remember we were dating, getting some food from a truck stop, I wanted to ask you, um, what are your favorite trucks?
01:05:59.900 --> 01:06:00.231
stops.
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So my, my favorite truck stop of all time.
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I've really got two of them.
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They happen to be across the road from each other, and I grew up three miles from on highway 92, just west of wa.
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There were two truck stops.
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One was called hackles.
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The other one was the white way.
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Cafe hackles closed, man.
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long have we been married?
01:06:29.056 --> 01:06:29.505
25.
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Yeah.
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I least something like
01:06:33.771 --> 01:06:36.981
hackles would have closed 25, 26 years ago.
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They had amazing fried chicken.
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We found out later that it was amazing because it was made with lard.
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Um, they didn't have a phone.
01:06:47.295 --> 01:06:49.065
Truckstop itself did not have a phone.
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There was a payphone inside the restaurant.
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And every once in a while that payphone had ring and a waitress would go answer it and she'd take an order.
01:06:56.865 --> 01:07:02.356
Cause everybody knew everybody, all the locals knew the phone number for hackles was the payphone.
01:07:02.746 --> 01:07:09.766
Right And that's how you placed it to go order, which when you said we went there to get food one time, that's how we placed the order.
01:07:09.795 --> 01:07:10.096
right.
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Was this the place that, uh, had the dressing in the three little caddy of three
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had a dressing
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boat,
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that they'd bring to your table.
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And it was always a thousand island, uh, French.
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We were Dorothy Lynch and Italian.
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Okay.
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So no ranch.
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That's the Italian dressing.
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Oh, that I've got the recipe for upstairs.
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they had one that was.
01:07:38.536 --> 01:07:40.606
One, that was for the one that had foreign.
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It had a green goddess in it but no ranch.
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You had to ask for ranch.
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So I grew up on that Italian dressing.
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You've made it a timer to Valen.
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Julie have had it every, every time you make it, everybody loves it.
01:07:54.346 --> 01:07:55.545
It's because it's full of sugar.
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it.
01:07:55.990 --> 01:07:58.630
has vinegar oil, sugar.
01:07:59.081 --> 01:07:59.411
Yeah,
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oregano.
01:08:00.456 --> 01:08:02.195
Um it's really, really good.
01:08:02.195 --> 01:08:09.755
The other one white way on the, on the north side of the road ended up being Bauer's white way cafe, and then it became Reza watches.
01:08:10.115 --> 01:08:16.895
It's closed now to Marianne who actually got the, the recipe for the fried chicken
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and dress and the dressing,
01:08:20.280 --> 01:08:25.201
ended up running the restaurant to the, across the street to the north after hackles closed
01:08:25.921 --> 01:08:26.911
Oh, they have the best pie.
01:08:27.360 --> 01:08:31.801
great pie merengue, the coconut cream that had a Marangu.
01:08:31.801 --> 01:08:35.100
That was no joke was four inches tall.
01:08:35.161 --> 01:08:36.180
Yeah, great.
01:08:36.451 --> 01:08:37.320
It was amazing.
01:08:37.411 --> 01:08:38.371
It was amazing
01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:40.051
Seminoles, the kids love the cinnamon.
01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:42.421
roll chocolate milk and a boot.
01:08:45.496 --> 01:08:46.636
those are long closed.
01:08:46.711 --> 01:08:47.011
Right?
01:08:47.011 --> 01:08:52.740
My favorite, my favorite thing to get at rosaceas was the ham steak and dumplings.
01:08:53.655 --> 01:08:56.055
I never, I don't think I ever once got the hams
01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:57.751
oh, it was so good.
01:08:57.765 --> 01:09:00.180
I'd get a chef salad and I'd get Italian and ranch.
01:09:01.230 --> 01:09:04.020
Amazing, had always had great food
01:09:05.115 --> 01:09:05.805
Today.
01:09:06.525 --> 01:09:09.256
I gravitate towards a lot of the guys in this episode.
01:09:09.256 --> 01:09:11.865
Talk about, uh, the Petro.
01:09:11.865 --> 01:09:12.645
I skill it.
01:09:12.886 --> 01:09:13.636
The salad bar.
01:09:14.025 --> 01:09:14.536
Oh yeah.
01:09:15.163 --> 01:09:18.073
Today I go for a good salad bar, wherever I can find them.
01:09:18.104 --> 01:09:21.583
There's not very many round or a good salad.
01:09:22.154 --> 01:09:26.083
Most of the Sapp brothers restaurants have good salads.
01:09:26.623 --> 01:09:30.104
The one in salt lake city is the exception to that.
01:09:30.493 --> 01:09:38.059
Believe it or not, Elm Creek Nebraska sat brothers Fremont, Nebraska has a no-no Fremont.
01:09:38.804 --> 01:09:39.884
Columbus has restaurant.
01:09:40.873 --> 01:09:43.573
Uh, Omaha has a restaurant Harris.
01:09:43.753 --> 01:09:46.064
Uh, Harrisonville Missouri has restaurant.
01:09:46.934 --> 01:09:49.484
There's actually a sat brothers in Pennsylvania that has a restaurant.
01:09:50.863 --> 01:09:53.594
And then one you mentioned kind of in passing.
01:09:53.863 --> 01:09:55.694
I don't know if it's gonna, if it's on here.
01:09:55.753 --> 01:10:00.644
Um, our place at Morris, Illinois, amazing restaurant.
01:10:01.033 --> 01:10:02.654
That's just west Chicago.
01:10:02.684 --> 01:10:03.793
Great big parking lot.
01:10:03.793 --> 01:10:05.293
You can usually find a place to park there.
01:10:05.293 --> 01:10:08.444
If you ever through there, I'd highly recommend our place.
01:10:08.860 --> 01:10:11.051
So thanks for joining us for another episode.
01:10:11.081 --> 01:10:15.070
I'll try and get a, another episode out soon.
01:10:15.211 --> 01:10:16.201
Give him some ideas.
01:10:16.270 --> 01:10:17.201
I need ideas.
01:10:18.220 --> 01:10:20.118
Like, I don't know what to talk about.
01:10:20.506 --> 01:10:23.027
What should we talk about how the robots are coming?
01:10:23.296 --> 01:10:24.466
No birds.
01:10:24.466 --> 01:10:24.976
Aren't real.
01:10:26.963 --> 01:10:29.543
How do we get a younger generation interested in trucking?
01:10:31.253 --> 01:10:31.524
that?
01:10:31.583 --> 01:10:32.543
That would be pretty.
01:10:33.684 --> 01:10:34.373
You want to have to bring.
01:10:34.434 --> 01:10:34.793
some
01:10:36.069 --> 01:10:39.668
People that are smarter than I am to talk about.
01:10:39.984 --> 01:10:41.588
I think it needs to be people that are younger too.
01:10:41.918 --> 01:10:42.729
Oh, for sure.
01:10:43.524 --> 01:10:51.684
I don't, I don't know what it interests my son and daughter, like what would interest you in doing this?
01:10:53.029 --> 01:10:59.118
The, uh, opportunities for growth, personal professional, right.
01:10:59.899 --> 01:11:00.559
Um,
01:11:00.578 --> 01:11:10.298
It's so hard could, because for so long people became truck drivers because they either like me grew up watching the truck.
01:11:10.298 --> 01:11:11.439
Drivers were cool.
01:11:12.009 --> 01:11:13.958
They were cool in the seventies.
01:11:14.059 --> 01:11:15.009
They were for sure
01:11:15.069 --> 01:11:18.868
it was a cool profession or it was your only option.
01:11:21.502 --> 01:11:22.853
is still a cool profession.
01:11:23.483 --> 01:11:23.903
Okay.
01:11:23.932 --> 01:11:24.893
Let me, let me
01:11:25.438 --> 01:11:27.627
so how we modernize it to make it cool?
01:11:27.627 --> 01:11:27.917
Again,
01:11:28.823 --> 01:11:35.233
it is a message from the industry that I think needs to, come from the top, right?
01:11:35.712 --> 01:11:37.363
Uh, I'm I'm an agriculture.
01:11:38.023 --> 01:11:39.703
We talk about feeding the world.
01:11:40.182 --> 01:11:43.693
That's our job, and I do it by teaching people how to be treated.
01:11:44.363 --> 01:12:02.261
Who can teach the younger generation about not just, production agriculture and growing the crops and, you know, fixing a tractor here and there it is about how can you get into nutrition and dietetics or, uh, food science or, Technology and robotics.
01:12:02.261 --> 01:12:07.421
And how does all that integrate to help feed the people on our planet?
01:12:08.740 --> 01:12:18.161
I think the transportation industry needs to embrace that also, and it's not just moving product from one place to another.
01:12:18.911 --> 01:12:23.860
It is a key cog in our survival.
01:12:25.030 --> 01:12:32.753
As the society, to have the products, the goods and services that we are used to having, right.
01:12:32.974 --> 01:12:35.134
All, all industries.
01:12:35.493 --> 01:12:41.253
I know, like, especially yours ag education has faced all industries.
01:12:41.884 --> 01:12:50.850
There's resistance to change for sure It in ag education, it seemed, stronger than that.
01:12:51.011 --> 01:13:08.914
And it's stronger in trans in trucking too And I don't know for sure how we over come that right Other than just, just doing it, just, you know, of the things we've tried on the, the, the USU truck, a lot of the drag.
01:13:09.994 --> 01:13:10.835
Some of the drivers.
01:13:10.925 --> 01:13:11.704
I shouldn't say a lot.
01:13:11.975 --> 01:13:15.425
Some of the drivers refer to that as my truck that's Mark's truck.
01:13:15.604 --> 01:13:22.654
right Well, it got all the radar and lane keep assist right out of the gate.
01:13:23.824 --> 01:13:24.244
Um,
01:13:24.734 --> 01:13:33.112
now the latest thing with that truck is the electronic mirrors I have already heard from a few drivers.
01:13:34.266 --> 01:13:35.317
That they don't like him.
01:13:35.646 --> 01:13:36.067
Sure.
01:13:36.516 --> 01:13:36.936
Okay.
01:13:37.212 --> 01:13:43.087
And I can understand, however, this is the direction we're heading,
01:13:43.237 --> 01:13:43.627
right?
01:13:43.987 --> 01:13:47.346
You are, um, there's a theory out there.
01:13:49.537 --> 01:13:51.546
like conspiracy theory,
01:13:51.546 --> 01:13:51.877
No.
01:13:52.447 --> 01:13:53.106
Um,
01:13:53.317 --> 01:13:53.796
Aren't real.
01:13:54.817 --> 01:13:56.827
do you need to look this up diffusion of innovation?
01:13:57.355 --> 01:13:58.586
You were an early adopter.
01:13:58.917 --> 01:14:00.896
So when there are new.
01:14:01.317 --> 01:14:05.381
Innovations that come out, you were the first one to do them.
01:14:06.100 --> 01:14:06.551
Okay.
01:14:06.581 --> 01:14:11.680
And then there are those people that come next and then you've got folks that are, they call them the laggards.
01:14:11.711 --> 01:14:22.511
They're the last people to adopt the new innovation, but there's a whole theory about diffusion of innovation and how that innovation through society.
01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:23.100
Hmm.
01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:28.110
don't, but I, I appreciate the old stuff so much.
01:14:29.365 --> 01:14:29.845
Sure.
01:14:29.966 --> 01:14:31.676
And there's, I think there's something to that too.
01:14:31.975 --> 01:14:32.275
Right?
01:14:34.105 --> 01:14:44.336
wish we still had great truck stop restaurants that were open 24 hours that I wish we still had flexibility.
01:14:45.565 --> 01:14:47.235
I sometimes feel like.
01:14:48.036 --> 01:14:51.725
we're resistant to change because we're afraid.
01:14:51.725 --> 01:14:52.086
Right.
01:14:52.775 --> 01:15:02.376
And sometimes I feel like I get frowned upon a bit because I embrace it so quickly, but I just see it as it's common.
01:15:03.786 --> 01:15:04.145
Right.
01:15:04.176 --> 01:15:10.895
I mean, no matter what I do this stuff's coming and I better figure out how to make money doing it.
01:15:10.926 --> 01:15:11.136
it
01:15:11.780 --> 01:15:13.070
Because somebody's going to
01:15:13.956 --> 01:15:14.525
if you're not.
01:15:14.570 --> 01:15:17.211
first you're last, right.
01:15:18.725 --> 01:15:21.845
It was that from a lightening McQueen.
01:15:23.076 --> 01:15:23.195
It
01:15:23.331 --> 01:15:23.541
be.
01:15:23.900 --> 01:15:26.060
It could be from Talladega nights for all.
01:15:26.060 --> 01:15:27.350
I know Ricky, Bobby,
01:15:30.065 --> 01:15:38.859
well, helping those folks that are, I'm not going to say resistant, but the question, need for change, it's helping them understand the needs.
01:15:39.346 --> 01:15:45.466
If you would have given me more prep time, I could have come at you with all kinds of, um, smart stuff to say, but.
01:15:46.430 --> 01:15:48.921
Maybe we'll talk about future trucking in the next step.
01:15:48.921 --> 01:15:56.019
So maybe that'll be the next episode Thanks for tuning in to episode 23 of driver to driver is Stokes trucking podcast.
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if you have any comments or questions, please email me.
01:16:00.456 --> 01:16:01.055
Mark.
01:16:01.086 --> 01:16:03.966
mirk@stokestrucking.com.
01:16:04.452 --> 01:16:05.862
I'd love show ideas.
01:16:05.862 --> 01:16:09.152
I think we might do the next one future trucking.
01:16:10.157 --> 01:16:11.237
It sounds like a good plan.
01:16:11.431 --> 01:16:11.912
Exciting.
01:16:11.912 --> 01:16:13.051
Sorry about my pets.
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We'll talk to you soon.
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