Ep. 90: Drinking With... Hustle & Flow

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And we are recording.
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Welcome to Drinking with the Podcast, where we raise the
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glass of movies that have reached the legal drinking age.
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I'm your host, Stephen mccash of the Sobros Network, and
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join me as we embark on a cinematic journey through
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the classics of yesteryear, celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style. Look,
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we're going from iconic blockbusters to hitting gyms. Each episode
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will toast to a different film that has stood the
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test of time and shaped our cultural landscape. So grab
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your favorite beverage is the one we have curated for
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this episode, and let's deep dive into the nostalgia as
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we explore movies that are finally old enough to join
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us for a drink. Now, joining me at the bar
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as always, are the two best people I can think
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of to stumble out a said bar after a long
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discussion of movies versus the resident film critic of the
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Sobros Network, mister Brandon Vick, who's also a member of
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the Southeastern Film Critics Association, a board member of the
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Music City Films Critics Association, and most importantly, the birth
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giver of the vix Flicks and Cinema Chronicles podcast that
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you can hear wherever you get your podcast from and
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joining him is the man behind the Sobros Network, thee
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I see the glue of the brand. Jennificionado, multiple cat lover,
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all around football Wordsmith, the One, the Only, mister Stony Keeley. Gentlemen,
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it's a it's it's a brisk fall breeze starting to
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hit us. How are we doing today?
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M Cash? It is hard out here for a pimp.
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Oh yeah, that is all I will say today.
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We're all all hustle and flowing out there.
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Brandon, how are you feeling today?
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I'm good depending on note.
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Wait, I'm gonna be forty this month, so oh yeah,
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you go trying to think the release.
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But yeah, you got a you got a fortieth birthday
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coming up. I'm already forty now, yep you are?
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Yeah, well, welcome to the old fuckers club. Fuckers.
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Yep, my back hurts, my knees hurt, yep, my feet hurt.
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I got two diapers on?
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You got you got your diapers on? You're ready to go.
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Bar them from the one.
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Yeah, that's right, that's right. We just switched. So now
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I've got sesame street thong diapers on and.
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He's wearing bluey or something.
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Uh yeah, hold on, hold on, I got it. I
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can't let that go. You what, what good is a
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thong diaper?
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I don't know, but I'm just imagining me putting on
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my son's diapers, So it has to be thought for you.
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Yeah, it's like it was like, I don't think that
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thong is gonna hold anything back, buddy.
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No, no, but I have remember I have two of them.
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Yeah, okay, so that should stop. Well of what happens
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on this carpet.
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You're gonna need something to retain moisture because we're talking
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about one of the sweatiest movies.
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Are Yes, we are. It feels like it feels like
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when I went when we all went to what was
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that concert.
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We're down in Atlanta?
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Yeah that's what that's two thousand and five. Yeah.
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Cool. Conveniently enough, that was two thousand and five that
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we and I my cheap ass was like, I'm not
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paying four dollars for a bottle of water, which now
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sounds like a steel People are like what it's like,
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I'm not gonna pay four dollars for a bottle of water.
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I'll tough it out, and then I had to sit
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down and I thought, I'm actually I think I'm on
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the verge of heat exhaustion. I'm gonna pay that four dollars. Now,
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that's a good that's a good comparison, because.
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I still remember that awful picture of me that somebody
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took and you can tell it's been a day and
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I watched this movie and I'm like, I get it.
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That's where I get it.
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I've lived that life.
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I get it. I have a picture of me and
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Liz Fair together at the litt of Fair, oh like
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in ninety nine or something, and I look like I
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just escaped from a fucking mental hospital because I'm so
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dehydrated and drunk on top of it. And it was like, oh,
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this is rough. So yeah, I feel what you guys
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felt at the Warped tour.
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Yeah, all that for Avenge Sevenfold in the Offspring.
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All that for Sarah McLaughlin and Jewel.
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And Jhe mccash.
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Go ahead as say they're basically the same tours. Yeah.
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Well, and the Offspring didn't even play most of their.
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Hits, they all two of them, I think they played.
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Did they even play Pretty Fly? They didn't play.
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They didn't play anything off the Americana album because there's
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some like big backstory about how the off I'm glad
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we're hashing this out on the Hostel Show.
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We should.
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There's some big backstory about how the Offspring actually hates
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that album and they like they don't want to be
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known for that, so like they would just go out
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and this was the mid two thousands and they just
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go out on tour and not play any of those songs,
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like there was I remember being there's a big thing
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about it among the fan base where there people or
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just like how can you just ignore Yeah, yeah, your
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biggest supsel? Do they know how.
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Many people are there to probably only hear?
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Yeah, what a pretentious thing to do.
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And I have an idea, maybe when you're looking out
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in the crowd and you see people fainting or trying
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to drink their own piss, why don't you play a
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couple of songs?
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People know you can play pretty fly for a white guy.
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Yeah yeah, And if I remember correctly, like the lead
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singer of the Offspring is like like some like brainiac basically.
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Yeah, he's super sharp guy. That was. Was he some
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sort of engineer or something?
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He's got a pH d in molecular biology. Yeah, so,
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I mean, when your name is Dexter, you gotta be
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kind of smart, doctor off.
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Why is he such an idiot when it comes to
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trying to sing?
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That's you know, that's that. I'm glad you said that. Mcash.
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Let's just fuck the offspring. Guess what this show is about.
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I've never wanted to. Can I go ahead? I know
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we have to get to a drink, But let me
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tell you then. I want to say, every time I
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hear or think about Hustle and Flow, I'm gonna tell
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you guys.
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The first thing I think of Mafia.
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I think of three six Mafia beating Dolly Parton for
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the Oscar. That that's what I think the first. The
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first thing I think of is when they got up
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and had an oscar. I'm like, my god, good for them,
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but my god, you beat the sweetest woman alive because
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she was like, I think it's between them two for
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trans America song?
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How how do we get three six Mafia an egott?
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I think musical the Tony's gonna be the toughest part.
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I think.
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I don't think at this point that'd be the toughest
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one Hamblet. I mean Hamilton has made way for hip
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hop in the Broadway.
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Listen, I'd give anything to go to Broadway and here
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she loves sucking up.
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Come.
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I'm give her some what's the drink?
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Let me introduce the movie before we really give you.
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Sorry, but we are.
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As you already heard. We're talking about Hustle and Flow,
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a gritty drama set and my hometown of Memphis, Tennessee
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that follows a small time hustler and pimp named DJ
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that is struggling to break out of his cycle of
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street life and DJ decides to pursue a rap career,
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pouring his experiences, frustrations, and ambition into music. With the
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help of an old acquaintance and a small group of allies,
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DJ works to record a demo that might change his life.
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The film explores themes of redemption, ambition, and self expression,
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all set against the backdrop of Southern hip hop and
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Hustle and Flow was written and directed by Craig Brewer,
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who you know from song Sun Blue, the Footloose remake
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that Should Have Never Happened end the upcoming Snoop Dogg biopic.
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I know he was working on a Snoop DOGG bio.
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Yeah, they just casted the guy who's playing Snoop Dog
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but I don't remember who it is.
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And he's he's done a couple of the actual like
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good Eddie Murphy movies.
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Yeah, my name is Dolomite.
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My name is Dolomite, Coming to America.
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Yeah, the sequel Coming to America, all right.
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And he also wrote the twenty sixteen Legend of Tarzan
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starring Alexander Scarts.
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Oh God, could have left that out.
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I did leave Footloose out. So why did That's true?
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Well, at least you, at least right after that you
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said what everyone else was thinking.
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Why why? And then uh, Hustle Flow stars Terrence Howard
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as DJ Anthony Anderson from the Barbershop movies, DJ Qualls
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from Road Trip. Yes, Uh, Tariji p Henson, Tearn Manning
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Ludicrous and uh Sweaty Balls himself, Uh, sweaty Chocolate Balls himself.
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Isaac hayes Man.
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It's it's a good cast, solid. Yeah. I think it's
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interesting because you look back on it and I think
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it jumps out as like, oh, this is a this
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is like Terrence Howard's most iconic performance. But then when
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you fire it up, you see, oh there's Anthony Anderson's
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here and p Henson And.
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Did you say, oh my god, Anthony Anderson from Kangaroo.
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Jack And don't forget Anderson from The Departed. That Departed
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wasn't even out when this was out, but.
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And Josie Scott from Saliva, Yes, yes.
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I forgot about forget about very Memphis, very Memphis. Oh yeah.
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And to Rogi p Henson, I think this is one
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of the I don't think I was familiar with with
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how I wasn't this And then then she I think
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the next one was Benjamin Button. She played a big
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part in that and got a lot of critical acclaim
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for that too.
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This is the movie I fell in love with, Trogi
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p Henson.
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She's great.
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Yep uh.
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So today's drink, this is the most Memphis drink of
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all Memphis drinks. And this is the whoop that trick cocktail.
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You're gonna take two ounces of bourbon, half ounce of
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peach li cour, three quarters ounce of fresh lemon juice,
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half ounce of honey syrup. You're gonna do a one
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to one ratio honey and water to make that. If
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you don't have some sitting around and a couple of
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dashes of bitters, And then if you have some ginger beer,
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you're gonna need to splash that as well. So what
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we're gonna do is gonna add bourbon, the peach, li
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cord lemon juice, the honey syrup, and bitters to a
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shaker with ice, and if you want heat tossed in
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a jlapeno slice or a tiny pinch of cayenne pepper,
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shake real hard, because that's what we do here in
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the nine oh one. You're gonna strain it into a
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rocks glass over some fresh ice in the top, with
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a splash of beer, and that'll make you want to
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turn to your friend, your lady friend, and whoof that trick? Damn,
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that's now I'm not condoning. I'm not condoning a Memphia cilion.
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I like that that peach, honey, lemon profile with a
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little bit of heat in there too. The bourbon. That's
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a that's a fall drink. I think the ginger your
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beer kind of adds a little dynamic to it. That's
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a that's a good cocktail there.
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Yeah, if you drink this during the summertime, you can
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be sweating, just like they did in the.
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Movie, which rightfully so creative effect. Are y'all amazed just
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how catchy whooped that trick is? It is like every
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time they start that little beat on that.
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It's not it's not just that it's catchy, but when
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that beat goes, it's like I feel something. It's like
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Thor when the electricity is flowing through his body and
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it bursts out of his eyes. That's what it's like
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for me. It's like that first note when they're like
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piddling around with the keyboard. And if you've like you
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don't catch it when you first see the movie, but
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if you know what's coming and you hear that first
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note that lines up like from there, I'm just like,
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it hits me and I'm showing up in Wakanda to
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save the Avengers.
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It makes me want to just rip off my half
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zip sweater, yeah, and just start going ballistic.
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It makes you want to put on your lemon pepper
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steppers and go to go to work.
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That's right.
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I'm just amazing every time I hear I'm like, it
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is so like it is such a good song, and
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it like, I mean, I'm just I'm always amazed of
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just how it is.
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I can't. I'll put it this way, m cash, that's
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a lovely cocktail that you described to us. If I'm
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drinking one when that song comes on that drinks in
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the air, and yeah, I'm just I.
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Thought you're gonna say, you're gonna just smash it like
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a glass, smash it over your head.
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I'm gonna start swinging on something. I'm gonna try not
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to hit a person, try to just kick through my
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closet door. But it just it fires you up. Man.
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I have a love hate relationship with that song. I
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it's a great song. I love it when it when
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I drive it around and it comes on. But if
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I'm at a Memphis sporting event like Grizzlies, Tigers, what
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have you, and that song comes on, I know it's
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a victory. I know we've taken care of business. And
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that song comes on and the whole audit, the whole
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stadium or arena is channing whooped that trick. But I've
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been on a couple of Memphis football road games where
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the outcome was on the opposite side and the opposing
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team decides to play whoop that trick? The throat in
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our face and that's not that's not a fun drive home.
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I would have played the song that Dolly Parton was
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nominated for at the Oscars?
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Is that right?
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That probably the second time you've ever heard that song before?
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Being honest, Actually I had it on.
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My iPod. I think you zoom yeah, because it actually
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is is a catchy shunk song. And what stinks is
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she's been nominated I think like four or five times,
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but she keeps losing. But just just like Diane Warren, yeah,
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well not not quite. Bless her heart, she anytime she
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writes a song, she just gets nominated. And I've never
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heard of half the movies that she's done it for.
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I feel like it's fake.
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Yeah, she's the Suzanne Lucci of songwriting.
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Yeah she is.
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But Sluci finally won for Crying Out Loud.
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Yeah, truette.
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Uh.
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Speaking of winners, let's talk about if this movie was
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a winner at the box office. So when it comes
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to what it took to make Hustle and Flow, what
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do we think the budget is for this Craig Brewer classic.
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I'm I'm gonna say eight million.
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Let's say eleven eight and eleven?
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Uh, if you were subtracted eight from eleven, you would
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get this budget two point eight million dollars for Hustle
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and Flow.
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Holy shit.
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So wow, Anthony Anderson was cheap.
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Yes, well, he hadn't done The Departed, that's.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true. Barbershop threes, not out of the points.
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But you you guys know he was in Kangaroo.
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Jack, right, I've heard word on the.
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Strand he was in one of the scary movies, or
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two scary movies in a.
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Couple of them.
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Yeah.
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Uh so low budget opening weekend US Canada. We're talking
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about North America. This opened July twenty second against The Island,
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Bad News Bears and the Devil's Rejects. Oh what a lineup? What?
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Yeah, it definitely made its budget back.
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I have no doubt.
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Against those Titans. Well, I'll give you the top five
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before I ask you what do you think it made
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opening weekend? Number five was Bad News Bears. Number four was.
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Bill the Islands, Billy Bob Thornton on.
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The Billy Bob Thornton back.
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People think Walter Matthows came back.
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Out, Yeah no, and won the box office.
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Yeah, yeah, very popular.
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The thirty fourth anniversary of Bad News Bears Yet, and
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then the horrible Scarlett Johansson led The Island comes in
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at number four. Movie it was not good. Number three,
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Fantastic four. I don't know which the seventeen of those
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movies it is, but it.
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Would have been the second one. It would have been
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The Rise of the Silver Surfer and oh five.
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Was it okay? I think I don't know.
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I think that's right.
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I've never seen any of them.
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The first two those they were not good. No, I
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would have been the first Fantastic Four.
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I slept through the latest one on my flight to
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Barcelona a couple of months.
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Ago, so that one was actually good.
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Well, I'll think you were for it.
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Yeah, that's the first one.
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And then Wedding Crashers comes in at number two, and
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your number one film for that week was not Hustling Flow.
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It was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory still going.
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Yep. So with that said, Hustle and Flow opening weekend,
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you're looking smack dab in the middle of the summer.
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What do we think it brought home that opening weekend?
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I'm gonna say, gosh million.
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I'm going to say I'm going to say four four.
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Million, four and eight. Well, this opened on only one
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thousand screens opening weekend.
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What it Yep?
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It made eight million dollars.
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How about that?
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Yeah, it had the second highest per screen average of
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all the top ten films that we averaged seventy nine
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hundred dollars per screen, only behind Wedding Crashers nine thousand.
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Nice. How about that. People came out, they were put not.
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All over the country, but in a wherever it was.
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The total domestic box office it made a little over
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twenty two point two million dollars, and worldwide it added
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one point three million dollars for a total of twenty
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three and a half million dollars total worldwide, So it
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had more than me. Why we didn't get a sequel,
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I'll never know.
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And you know, this was like the beginning of like
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the Terrence Howard coming out because he was traffic No crash,
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I'm sorry, crash this. Now, granted fast forward to two
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thousand and eight, he's an iron.
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Man and then gets fired.
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Yep, but.
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This was his thing, wasn't was it? Crash in This
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happened in the same year, right, Yeah.
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Because we just did Crash earlier.
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This, Yeah, because it was a big thing. Where like
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he kind of had two kind of like award worthy
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awards worthy films and performances.
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Yeah, which he was nominated for.
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Hustle and Flow. That's awesome. I'm so I'm happy for him.
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I don't know what he's doing now, but I'm happy
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for him.
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He went on, Yeah, he's because he got into because
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he's another like talking about really smart people. He's like
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some sort of like self taught physicist. Oh, it's like
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working on some sort of experiment patent, like I don't know.
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He started doing like the podcast circuit with all the
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like Joe Rogan and stuff. Yeah, he had a few
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clips that went viral where he was talking about stuff
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and then like the actual community is like, hey man,
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you can't just do this. You need to go through
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peer review studies and stuff like that. He's it's it's
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been kind of a weird few years for Terence Town.
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Well, I know, he's still bitches about being fired with
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Iron Man, and he also talks about why that may
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have happened and maybe it wasn't Robert Downey Junior as
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producer and maybe and I just thought, buddy, no one
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like no one cares at this point.
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Yeah, he's still getting an Empire checks fell he's good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, And don't forget he was in a chanting table
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movie called Fighting that got him a couple grand He.
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Did that one night in Miami movie or whatever it was.
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Wasn't he in those Best Man movies too?
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One of the things he was doing.
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The Best Man is Ah, Well, I wouldn't expect you to,
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but there was a recent sequel, like a year or
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two ago from it or a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, he was in it, Okay, making a comeback. That's
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about it.
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I don't think he ever went away, really, I mean
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he's still making movies.
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I think it was more of the mainstream stuff because
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he kind of I couldn't even tell you, but there
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are some movies where he's popped up in that weren't
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in theaters, and I was amazed of like how small
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of a part. Like sometimes his name wasn't even like
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the first four or five six name on there. And
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I'm like, you guys, do know he can whoop that trick? Right?
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He had a run, un had a run and he's
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got an oscar No, so you know those aren't easy
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to come by.
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Goodman.
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Yeah, he's got like three or four BT Awards too,
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So I mean, hell.
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Yeah, and you know how important those are.
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Yeah, very I mean that. And as Lucius lyons.
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So can we can we all just say like, we
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all like this movie?
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Right?
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We all love like I love this.
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It's one of the best musical films they've ever done.
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Yeah, you guys know that I'm weird about my seasons.
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This is one that I watch every summer because of
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how sweaty it is. And I'm like this. You watch
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the movie and you can feel the audist heat and
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humidity of ten.
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Can you imagine watching this and Black Snake Moon back
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to back?
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Oh man, oh man, I'm I'm drenched just thinking of it.
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Yeah, no, not complimentary.
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I mentioned that internationally it only brought in like one
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point three million dollars and roughly a quarter of that
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came from Germany, who brought in four hundred and sixteen thousand,
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and the lowest number I could find internationally was for
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Spain at only six thousand dollars.
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What about Bulgaria, I don't I don't think Hustle, don't
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tell me Dad, Bulgaria quite data.
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But we the three of us, have praised the film
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and how much we enjoy it. But let's think about
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what the critics thoughts. So let's turn the page to
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Rotten Tomatoes, the tomato meter. There's one hundred and sixty
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reviews online for a Hustle and Flow on the website.
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So what do we think percentage wise? Is this movie
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fresh or not?
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Oh?
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It's fresh, It's for sure fresh.
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I I would say so too.
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I don't think. I don't think it's any higher. I
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don't think it goes any higher than starting with an eight.
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But I'm almost positive.
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I would go eighty six. If you get.
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Oscar nominated, that movie's got to have something. You say
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eighty six, I'll say I'll go a little lower. I'll say,
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like eighty two. But I still think it's in the
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eighties at.
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Least Brandon's on it today. Eighty three percent.
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How about that?
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I actually thought it was going to be higher.
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I just went lower because he said eighty six, because
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I thought it could easily be that. Eighty eighty five
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to eighty eight. Yeah, but yeah, that's pretty good out
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of one hundred and sixty something. But no, it was
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a good I mean, it definitely caught caught fire when
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it needed to. I mean, you're thinking it came out
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in July and a thousand screens and it ends up
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being an Oscar nominee.
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It's pretty good, it is.
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And you know, some people will say music is a
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throwaway category if you're getting nominated that early in the year,
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because normally Academy Award nominated films come out later in
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the year. But he also got his his you know,
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acting nomination as well, So the Academy did a good
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job at not overlooking the film just because of its
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release dates.
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But what I said, ah, well, so well, and I
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think and I feel like we've kind of seen this
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more consistently than we may be used to. But if
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if you, if you can keep talking about it and
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then it hits award seasons and then they like either
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re release it or you know, maybe it came out
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on DVD around fall, and then you know, some some
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well known people in the industry start hosting these screenings.
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They can put it can push.
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Now.
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I do think one thing Hustle and Flow had had
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going for itself right out of the gate is the music. Oh,
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and that when you can stay in the conversation like
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that and then have the kind of year Terrence Howard
494
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was having a lot A lot was actually in its
495
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favor for such a small indie music film.
496
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:36.440
Yeah, I mean it's impressive, and it had that MTV
497
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:37.880
backing too.
498
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.160
Exactly exactly, and John Singleton financed it.
499
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.559
So that's all you need to know. Boys are good?
500
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:48.519
All right? Uh So we know what the critics thought
501
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.400
of Hustle and Flow, But what did the average Joe,
502
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.400
the DJ of the streets think of Hustle and Flow?
503
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.920
And Rotten Tomatoes with over one hundred thousand reviews on
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00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.240
the website, is it fresh? Like the critics said.
505
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:08.119
I'm I'm gonna say yeah, because when you've got Arenas
506
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full of people twenty years later, still chanting, whooped that trick.
507
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.759
I know it's a fun, catchy song, still fun catchy
508
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.559
chant and everything, but that's still there's something there that like,
509
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:25.319
this is in the collective memory of moviegoers, and that's
510
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.160
where I think this is probably still gonna be pretty
511
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pretty high among the audience. I might even I'm gonna
512
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go eighty nine percent. Okay, I'll go.
513
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:39.960
Eighty three was critics.
514
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:48.079
Yeah, oh this is so tricky. I'm gonna go seventy eight.
515
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.680
Okay, Oh, it went down. No. Uh, the critics and
516
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.920
the average audience are on the same page at eighty
517
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three percent.
518
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:57.680
How about that.
519
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.279
I am you know what, I'm shocked because I almost
520
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:05.160
meant the other way. But Rotten Tomatoes is really tricky
521
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:09.039
because it's it's people who could have seen it last
522
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.920
year to the people who saw it twenty one years ago,
523
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:13.559
so you never really know.
524
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:14.279
But that's good.
525
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:14.799
I'm glad.
526
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.920
I feel I'm kind of like Stony. I actually thought
527
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.680
if someone just like not thinking about it, I would
528
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.640
have thought it would have easily been past eighty three percent.
529
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:25.759
Yeah.
530
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.000
Again, just because of the like I think, I think
531
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you kind of know what it is, but also the
532
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:32.440
performances in the music.
533
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.720
I'm kind of surprised it's in the low eighties.
534
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.119
Well, one thing I know of is that people on
535
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:46.480
letterbox had some opinions about Hustle and Flow, and I've
536
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:51.319
got a few reviews here. I love this name, Jordan
537
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.160
Beaumont Anderson. I just love the name Beaumont.
538
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:56.119
It's a good name.
539
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.640
Yeah, it's a strong Southern name. Gave it four and
540
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.920
a half stars, and Jordan simply says, this is my
541
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.000
star is born.
542
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.440
It is it is a version of a star is born,
543
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:13.759
so to speak.
544
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.440
Maybe we'll get like a Lady Gaga version of Hustle
545
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.319
and Flow in a few years or something, or maybe
546
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.640
or maybe it's passed her by and we get like
547
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.319
a Sabrina Carpenter Hustle and Flow.
548
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.880
Now we're talking Sabrina Carpenter in the Hustle and Flow
549
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:30.279
would have been fantastic.
550
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.759
But is she the Terrence Howard part? Did you see
551
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.279
her wrapping? Uh, it's hard out here for a.
552
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.759
Pimp, yes, and whooping Ludacris's ass in a bathroom?
553
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.359
Hell yeah, well maybe instead of Ludacris. At this point,
554
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.200
it's like you know, little YACHTI or something.
555
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.240
There we go, oh yeah uh And.
556
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.359
Then bummer Buddy, uh did not think Hustle and Flow
557
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.720
is a bummer Bummer gave it four stars and says,
558
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.519
only time I've ever cried during the Oscars was Win
559
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:05.720
three six Mafia one. And also Tarren Manning was the
560
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.480
Mia Goth of early two thousand musicals.
561
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:10.400
How about that?
562
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:16.599
Oh, Hustle and Flow eight Mile Crossroads. What an iconic
563
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:17.160
hat trick?
564
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.640
Wow, that is a run here we are talking about
565
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.279
Terrence Howard's run. Yeah, this check this out.
566
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.960
I forgot all about her being an eight mile.
567
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.599
I forgot about her being in anything except for Hustle.
568
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.000
Eight mile is what I remember her from.
569
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.000
Okay Crossroads was for me.
570
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.079
Yeah, I don't even think ever that's is that Britney.
571
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.000
Spears, Pritney Spears and dan Aykroyd.
572
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.079
What a combo.
573
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.519
Yeah, I never saw that.
574
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.960
That's a shame. It's kind of worth the watch.
575
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:50.480
I don't.
576
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.240
I don't believe that for one second. One second.
577
00:28:54.400 --> 00:29:01.240
No, Alan arkush four stars as well. I didn't find
578
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.640
really any horribly bad takes on Hustle and Flow on Butterbox.
579
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.160
Really that feels like an accomplishment.
580
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.759
Yeah, that's really good.
581
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.599
And I went through like probably a good seven to
582
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.599
eight pages of reviews before I gave up and settled
583
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.319
with the flour I have. Yeah, but Alan says nothing
584
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.680
works if the writing is not there. Hustle and Flow
585
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.839
is beautifully written in the vernacular of its characters, all
586
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.079
of whom are well cast and giving stirring performances. It
587
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.440
grows deeper and more original with age. I think that's
588
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.000
a great take on Hustle and Flow.
589
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.440
It is, and it kind of goes back to like
590
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:43.039
this being a sort of timeless, relatable story. Like what
591
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.920
makes a difference is obvious, what makes it different is
592
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.319
obviously the character is the setting that sort of thing,
593
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.119
but it's still trying to make it in the world
594
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.000
that's relatable. And then it is well written in a
595
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.920
way that I mean, you could have told me this
596
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.359
film was made like last week and I'd be like, yeah,
597
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:02.759
I could buy it there.
598
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.960
It has such a look too, and it and it
599
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.400
I mean, I don't know anything about the music business
600
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:10.720
is what I've seen on TV and in movies, but
601
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.480
there really seems to be this level of authenticity. Yeah,
602
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.799
that the way that each character is handled and its
603
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:24.599
overall story that it just it resonates within the parts
604
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.039
that it should, like you don't have to live this
605
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.079
life to understand what they're going through. But also it's
606
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:36.079
done in a very honest way that it's you know,
607
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:42.480
it's tough, especially if you're coming from that kind of place. Yeah,
608
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.640
want to and just want to break out, and you know,
609
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:45.680
I mean I think we've heard that.
610
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:47.079
I mean, we hear that.
611
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.599
Why people are you know, they go into sports and
612
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.240
everything else, it's to escape and a lot of people
613
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.160
it's it's music, and a lot of those stories are
614
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.799
true stories that, Yeah, I'm sure this all of this
615
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:03.079
has to be inspired by based on, you know, something
616
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.160
to that effect.
617
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:10.640
I would imagine. Uh. Lastly, I'm weird, ha ha. Gave
618
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.839
it four stars and I'm weird, says this movie is
619
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:18.440
basically a more captivating Marty Supreme. I love how everyone
620
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.400
is dripping sweat the entire time.
621
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.720
I don't know if I I can't get down with that.
622
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:23.799
But.
623
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.920
Point taking, point.
624
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.400
Taking, I get we're trying to achieve a dream. I
625
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.160
understand that, and they do get into some real ship.
626
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.880
Yeah, I'll give you. I'll get on that.
627
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.559
Time for some fun facts about Hustle and Flow. Obviously,
628
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:49.920
outside of Terrence and Taraji and Anthony Anderson the rest
629
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.599
of the cast, the real star of the film is Memphis.
630
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:58.599
As the backdrop for Hustle and Flow, it's packed with
631
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:03.680
references to Memphis music culture. The character Shelby is named
632
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:08.680
after Memphis singer songwriter Shelby Bryant. Shelby wears shirts referencing
633
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.680
Sam Phillips's Memphis Recording Service and the local band Looser Row.
634
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.400
You have real musicians from Stack Records contributing to the score,
635
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:22.200
as well as having Isaac Hayes in the film, and
636
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.000
then Isaac hays Is Off obviously referenced in the films,
637
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:30.599
whereas Otis Redding and al Green are as well. Three
638
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.599
six from Mafia themselves, DJ Paul and Jucy J show
639
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.519
up in the film, as does Al Capone and Haystack
640
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.160
other local rappers, and we mentioned Josie Scott from Saliva
641
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.839
being in there. It's memphus, man, it's Memphis. I mean
642
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.599
the sweat that's real. That heat is fucking real here.
643
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.000
You know, I don't think you can hide that even
644
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.119
with visual effects.
645
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.079
You know what that's not that's that's what's not CG I.
646
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.640
That wasn't part of that two point eight million do Yeah.
647
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.039
One thing of the music, Memphis scene and the history
648
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.039
and the culture of Memphis music is not seen in
649
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.720
the movie, and it was forbidden to be mentioned or anything.
650
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:20.240
Craig Brewer refused to have any mention of Elvis in
651
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:20.839
this film.
652
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.119
That's yeah, I get it.
653
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.160
That's why I like it even more.
654
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, the focus stays on who it
655
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.119
needs to stay on, and you can drive.
656
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.039
I mean, there's enough stuff about Elvis anyway.
657
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:41.279
Yes, we talked about it's hard out here for a
658
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:45.960
pimp winning the Oscar for Best Original Song, which it did,
659
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.359
and I remember watching that at home, that that ceremony
660
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.480
at home and like losing my shit, thinking there's no
661
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.640
way in hell three six Mafia for Memphis, Tennessee was
662
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.759
gonna win this award, and I about like dead when
663
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.880
their name was announced, and it was a moment.
664
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.960
And I think part of it and I didn't follow
665
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.360
it as like I do now, but I don't even
666
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.320
know if they won other awards leading up to it,
667
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.800
which and I think Dolly did. And I think that's
668
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.000
why three six Mafia also winning was a surprise, was
669
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.519
because it kind of didn't have those, you know, the
670
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.960
precursors that usually would say, oh, okay, it looks.
671
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.960
Like I could be wrong.
672
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.880
Maybe they did win something and it was a neck
673
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.039
and neck or something, but I just remember it being
674
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.039
a quite a surprise that night.
675
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:42.559
Uh. It did become the third song in five years
676
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:46.280
to win the Oscar without a Golden Globe nomination.
677
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.239
It didn't happen Golden Globe nomination and those other three.
678
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:56.320
That's international people, So I feel like that's probably why
679
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:57.960
they didn't.
680
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.039
The other three, and that timeframe was if I didn't
681
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.320
have You from Monsters inc. Oh and el Otro Lado
682
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.599
del Rio from The Motorcycle Diaries.
683
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.440
No, we'll see there you go, I'm not ringing a bell.
684
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.920
Yeah, I know the movie, but not the song.
685
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:17.440
Yeah.
686
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.760
So yeah, And it's obviously at this point only the
687
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.079
second hip hop song to win an Oscar behind em
688
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.239
and M's Lose Yourself from eight Mile that we talked
689
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:26.159
about a few years ago.
690
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.239
Man, how about that?
691
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:29.400
What is a good company?
692
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.079
Yeah, and that, I mean it really is, Like we
693
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:38.719
talk about it being shocking, but I think it's just
694
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.920
because like of the visual like three six Mafia there
695
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.119
at the at the Oscars raising the trophy kind of deal.
696
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.360
But yeah, the song is fucking good. It is. It
697
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.880
is a great song, and I like, I don't want
698
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.840
I don't want that story to kind of outshine the
699
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.760
fact that it was a deserving winner back then.
700
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:03.400
You know, I'm looking through and.
701
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.320
They were Actually it looks like nothing was the only
702
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.320
thing I found was Critics Choice Awards did win for
703
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.440
Best Song. But the song was called a Hustle and
704
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.320
Flow and it has and it credits Terrence Howard, so
705
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.039
literally hard out here for a Pimp was not nominated
706
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.280
except for the Oscar and it won. But I will
707
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.039
I would like to say, this is how much of
708
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.480
a player Hustle and Flow really was. And at the
709
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:39.000
SAG Awards now called the Actor Awards, they were nominated
710
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.920
for Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion.
711
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.000
Picture, which is the best picture.
712
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.519
Right right, and it had everybody everybody in it, including
713
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:53.079
Isaac Hayes, so that now it didn't win, But that's
714
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.920
how much of a player was that he was actually
715
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.440
nominated for part of its Best Picture, which you know
716
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.800
in this day and age, it had to be nominated
717
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.239
for best Best Casting if they had that at the Oscars,
718
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.400
you know, back then. But it's amazing of just how
719
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.960
much of a hit it was, but also of a
720
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:20.199
movie like that being in many aspects of a critical Darlington.
721
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:21.039
Yeah.
722
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:26.599
And also they performed it at the Oscars that year
723
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:26.920
as well.
724
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.079
Yeah, I think that's when they had all five of
725
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.119
them performed back then.
726
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.599
I think Terence enter Rizi p Hinton partook in that
727
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:35.760
performance as well.
728
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.719
They should like Another layer of this is that the
729
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.639
actual scene in the movie is good too, when she
730
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.679
sings it and they start to realize, like what a
731
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.280
talent they have. I mean that just thinking about that
732
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.519
scene gives me goosebumps. So it's kind of like this
733
00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:00.119
perfect storm of it's catchy, it's good the scene as well.
734
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.199
It shouldn't be a surprise that it's such a well
735
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.199
received song from this movie.
736
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.320
I still think this is my favoritep Henson performance. I mean,
737
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.800
she's got on to be a lead in films and
738
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.719
carry the films, but I just love the rawness of
739
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.239
her performance in this film.
740
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.840
I agree.
741
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.760
I she's great in Benjamin Button. Now, I know that's
742
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.719
tough because there's Brad Pitt Kate punch up, but she's
743
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.199
really good and that.
744
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:32.519
Great Hidden Figures.
745
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.119
Yeah, she's good in Hidden Figures. I mean she's great
746
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:41.400
in Empire. I mean she's just cookie, but she I
747
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.519
don't know, like I've seen a couple where she's kind
748
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.159
of tried to do action movies and that didn't.
749
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:47.360
Quite yeah work.
750
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.199
Well, Hey, listen, this is the last time I may
751
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.320
talk about trans America and Dolly Parton, but I just
752
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.119
want you all to know. She was nominated for a
753
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:03.000
Golden Globe but lost. She also was nominated for Critics
754
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.719
Choice but she lost due to Hustle and Flow song,
755
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.239
and then that's it. There is nothing on that. I mean,
756
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.840
the Actor's Award, they're not gonna have that anyway. But
757
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.840
you're talking about somebody that literally was nominated for and
758
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.360
it's it's hard. It's hard out Here for a pimp,
759
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.119
literally got no nominations and won that. Oscar is very
760
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:25.679
is crazy, such a.
761
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.519
It's such a good it's such a good story. It's
762
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.119
such a good Oscar story.
763
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:31.679
But you know what I have to look up now,
764
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:32.960
y'all continue.
765
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.400
If if Hard out Here for a Pimp and nothing
766
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.000
else from Hustle and Flow was nominated for the Golden Globes,
767
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.559
Dolly Parton was, and she lost. I'm curious as to
768
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.559
who won the Golden Globe. I have a feeling it
769
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.119
might be that Motorcycle Diaries.
770
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:55.079
Well that was a different year though, so uh the
771
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.599
other nominees that year for Best Music Original Song, you
772
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.000
had It's Hard out for a Pimp, you had Traveling
773
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.039
Through for trans America, and then in the Deep from Crash,
774
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.159
which I'm not familiar with at all.
775
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.320
Yeah, and which one one in Golden Glue.
776
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.039
No, this is the Oscar nominations I don't know.
777
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.920
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
778
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.000
Yeah, I was just say there was only three songs
779
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.079
nominated that year for the Academy Award.
780
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.480
Yeah, we we just had a slight blip over here.
781
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:26.880
It's storming in mount and Juliet, Tennessee.
782
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.440
We got dark clouds up in here.
783
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.000
It says we're still alive, but we we missed you
784
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.119
for a second there, mccash didn't realize that you were
785
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:34.480
talking about the Oscars Field.
786
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:36.519
Yeah, it sounded like you guys went out on me.
787
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.320
I'll I'm just mentioning the other nominees that year for
788
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.920
the Best Music Original Song, and there was only three.
789
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.320
There was the Dolly Parton song It's hard out Here
790
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.960
for a Pimp, and then In the Deep from Crash. Okay,
791
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.719
it says it's written lyrics were by Kathleen Bird York,
792
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.800
but I don't know who performed the song. I don't
793
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.519
even know the song, even though I've seen the movie.
794
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.039
Yeah, same here, yep.
795
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.719
But we've talked enough about his heart out here for
796
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.119
a pimp. Let's let's move.
797
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.280
On to America.
798
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.760
Especially trans America. We're definitely not reviewing that this year.
799
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.679
On Drinking with but anyway, in order to get in
800
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:22.119
the mindset of a pimp, Terrence Howard when extremely method.
801
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.719
He interviewed one hundred and twenty three pimps and seventy
802
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.039
eight prostitutes over two and a half years.
803
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.960
Holy shit, Oh god, holy shit. How do you line
804
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.840
those up? Like do you just walk out on the
805
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.719
streets and you're like, hey, point me to the pimps
806
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.840
and hose well.
807
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.800
Essentially, the filmmakers convinced Terrence Howard to live in Memphis
808
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.320
for a while before production started to learn the dialect
809
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.800
and get the fill of the place, and he even
810
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.079
lived with four pimps, including spending a month in a
811
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:51.000
Memphis brothel.
812
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.079
That rules, man, that's dedication.
813
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.480
Yeah, I don't know if I could go that deep.
814
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.280
That's kind of what I was thinking, Like at a
815
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.559
certain point, like does it become dangerous with that lifestyle?
816
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.079
And that's where I'd be like, Hey, you know, I
817
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.199
maybe we'll just bring these people in and I can
818
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.679
ask them some questions. Yeah, and we'll just go from there.
819
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.039
Can I get their email and send them a questionnaire?
820
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:19.840
Yeah?
821
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:27.400
Hey guys, Yeah, guys, broke Back Mountain one, the Golden Globe, yep,
822
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.480
I love that will never grow old.
823
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:31.320
Yeah, that's crazy.
824
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:33.159
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
825
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.079
The other ones was Christmas in Love with a movie
826
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:37.079
called Christmas in Love.
827
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.440
Never heard of that wonder kind.
828
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.719
From the Chronicles of Narnia line which in the wardrobe
829
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:46.119
atlantismoresett Dolly. And then uh, There's nothing like a show
830
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:47.840
on Broadway. The producers mel.
831
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.760
Brooks man, what a what a year for music and movies.
832
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.960
And then oddly there was only three Oscar knobs.
833
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.599
Exactly, which is very strange. And then I'm just gonna
834
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.320
shout this out just because I know mccash would like it.
835
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:07.599
But the very next year Happy Feet won Prince.
836
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:10.119
How about that? All right?
837
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.000
We've talked about everything for Hustle and Flow, but.
838
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:17.760
Everything around it.
839
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.320
Director Craig Brewer incorporated a lot of real life experiences
840
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.320
in the writing of this film. His wife once worked
841
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:31.039
in a strip club and became pregnant there. Uh, he
842
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.960
had to turn off his air conditioning while editing because
843
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.480
it would blow a fuse. I think that was when
844
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.079
he was making his first film. I wish I forget
845
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.880
the name of it. It's very hard to find. But
846
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:48.360
he witnessed a real life scenario similar to characters in
847
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.199
the film where he once watched a pimp and a
848
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:58.639
prostitute hustling near a hotel. Wow, I see that around
849
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.920
my corner like every fucking It's not a big deal
850
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:01.360
in Memphis.
851
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.239
Really, Oh so, really, Craig.
852
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.039
Hey part of town.
853
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:07.599
When you said.
854
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:12.239
Terrence Howard interviewed so many pimps and hose did he
855
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:13.440
ever interview the Godfather?
856
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.800
I don't know if the Godfather spent much time in
857
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.519
Memphis hustling.
858
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.519
Flowing, Terrence could have flown out to Vegas.
859
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.559
Yeah, that's that's true, but that maybe not have been
860
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.800
him in the two point eight million dollars a budget
861
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:28.679
for him to fly.
862
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.159
Well, that's true, and he ain't got just money to
863
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:31.599
throw away.
864
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:37.039
Then UH rapper al Capone, who UH has a song
865
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.719
in the in the soundtrack as well, and it shows
866
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.719
up in the film. Uh got involved in the film
867
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.960
due to a mistaken identity phone call. Craig Brewer was
868
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.760
expecting to call from DJ Paul of three six Mafia,
869
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:54.760
but al Capone UH called him instead, and too awkward
870
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.280
to back out, Craig Brewer let him audition for a
871
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.320
role in the film, and then Capone wrote a song
872
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.400
in twenty four hours and an impressed producers so much
873
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.719
to use multiple tracks of his in the soundtrack.
874
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.519
Good for Alpha al Capone making the most of the opportunity.
875
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.639
Yeah, yeah, yep. I mean that's some hustle and flowing
876
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.159
right there exactly.
877
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.199
That's that's game. Yeah, that's game.
878
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.679
Game said match. Yeah, and obviously he's the person but
879
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:25.079
behind the song hustle, I mean, whooped that trick?
880
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:31.159
Yeah? Have y'all heard the quote unquote real version of
881
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:32.800
the song I have?
882
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.960
I forget the other artist's name, ship.
883
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.800
Yeah, I do too, but it's Patti Leabelle, Patti LaBelle.
884
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.639
Yeah, it was Dolly Pardon, but Patty the Bell might
885
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:45.280
be the one.
886
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.719
Have y'all seen trans America? It's uh, I will say
887
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.840
like it's one of the rare cases where it feels like, huh,
888
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.199
they actually upgraded when they redid it.
889
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.199
I was gonna say, I feel like I have, but
890
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.000
I think it was sort of like years ago, and
891
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.159
I remember thinking it wasn't as cool, So I'm gonna
892
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:06.039
go with what you said.
893
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:13.400
Yeah, excuse me, DJ, who's played by Terrence Howard, as
894
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.840
he mentioned, says the word main two hundred and twenty
895
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.280
one times throughout this movie, and I hear that word
896
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.760
at least that many times every day living in Memphis.
897
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.760
And every time I hear it, I think of hustle
898
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:29.119
and flow.
899
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.400
Yeah. I don't know if I've ever really heard it,
900
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.039
but it will always for it will forever be in
901
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.320
my mind in Terrence Howard's voice.
902
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:42.440
Yeah, this film did get some negative publicity as it
903
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.960
was being shot, So while filming in Memphis, Anthony Anderson
904
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.119
and assistant director Wayne Witherspoon were arrested and charged with
905
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.400
sexual assault on a woman who Witherspoon allegedly lured into
906
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.400
a production trailer suit.
907
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:04.639
Yeah, I just I. I they barely remember hearing something
908
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.440
about this, but eventually charges against both were later thrown
909
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.159
out by a presiding judge.
910
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.400
Yeah that is uh, that's yeah, I never heard that story.
911
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.440
The film is dedicated to Sam Phillips, who discovered Elvis
912
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:24.840
Presley and founded Sun Records. Phillips's do it yourself esthetic
913
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.320
inspired Craig Brewer to write the film How about.
914
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:32.559
That, Sam, keep on keep on spreading that inspo.
915
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:33.639
Yeah.
916
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:39.960
Now, I think Stony you predicted or guessed that the
917
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.719
budget for this film was eleven million dollars earlier in
918
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:47.000
the episode, Terrence Howard would have wished that would have
919
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.519
been the case because he would have made more money
920
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.639
for the role of DJ that got him an Oscar nomination.
921
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.079
Terrence Howard was paid twelve thousand dollars for his role.
922
00:47:58.920 --> 00:47:59.760
Whoa wow.
923
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.239
But keep in mind, who's Terrence Howard when they're filming this.
924
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:07.679
That's that's true. But I think I'm shocked Harbor film
925
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.840
would make more than twelve thousand dollars.
926
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:12.719
But I think if you look at this film, I
927
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.519
don't see anybody making six figures on anything.
928
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.360
I thought you were about to tell me like his
929
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.320
he had like a percentage back in deal. Yeah, it
930
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.119
was like if the film makes more, he makes more.
931
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.239
Kind of kind of deal.
932
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.360
Nope, A four runner costs more than what he got.
933
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.920
Say, they just said here's twelve Even back then, you're
934
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.400
gonna have to go get a job at write age.
935
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:39.800
Totally totally understand why you couldn't interview the Godfather.
936
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.159
Now Yeah, yeah, definitely got too much money and why
937
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.199
he had to go live with four pimps. Yeah yeah
938
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.119
for two years. Yeah.
939
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.559
Terrence Howard is the second actor to earn an Academy
940
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.880
Award nomination for playing a pimp? Any idea who the
941
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:56.719
other person is?
942
00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.920
Oh Man for playing a pimp?
943
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.000
I've never heard of this film?
944
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.119
Okay, then is it from like the forties or fifties.
945
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.800
No, it's from the eighties, nineteen eighty seven, eighties, hang on?
946
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:09.360
Hang on?
947
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:10.760
Uh?
948
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.679
Is al Pacino movie?
949
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:14.239
Not Al Pacino?
950
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.719
Is it risky business?
951
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.000
Cruz was not a pimp. He was a john Yeah,
952
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.679
you know, just tell us it was Morgan Freeman for
953
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.400
his role in Street Smarts.
954
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.360
I have heard of it. I haven't seen it, but
955
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.239
I didn't.
956
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.079
I didn't know he got even Oscar nominated.
957
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.400
For Yeah, Best Supporting Actor that year.
958
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:41.199
Wow.
959
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:45.199
And then my last note for a hustle and flow
960
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.480
before we move on, is this is an Academy Not Academy.
961
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:54.519
This is a Film Festival Award winner. It won the
962
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.000
Audience Award at the two thousand and five Nashville Film Festival.
963
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:07.400
How who how about that? Who would have known? Not me? Uh?
964
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.920
Just so you know, Street Smart is a.
965
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.679
Christopher Reeve movie.
966
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:18.039
Is that a New York after the Horse? Actually?
967
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.599
No, no, he's still It looks like he's walking a
968
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.239
New York journal journalist lies when his fake story about
969
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.719
a pimp describes a real pimp up for murder.
970
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.360
I mean, that sounds like a good movie.
971
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.360
It does. It sounds like three six months. You should
972
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:34.199
have wrote a song about it.
973
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.400
It sounds like an Academy Award nominated type film.
974
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.599
And it is.
975
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.480
Can you guys believe it?
976
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:42.840
All?
977
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.760
Right? Before we get out of here, I do have
978
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.280
a couple of quotes from this film that I enjoy.
979
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:51.519
I don't use them every day, but one is it
980
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.519
goes just because you got the bacon, lettuce and tomato,
981
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.440
don't mean I'm gonna give you my toast.
982
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.159
Hey, Hey, I like that one. That is a good one.
983
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.440
And then lastly, uh, this is Terrence Howard.
984
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Uh.
985
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And we haven't really talked about Skinny Black portrayed by Ludacris.
986
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:08.760
Yeah.
987
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:10.639
Well Ludacris was good in this little role.
988
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He was. Yeah, and it goes back to like everybody
989
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.039
seemed to bring it for this movie.
990
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.119
Yeah, But I think there's also a lot and I'm
991
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.519
just a especially as we've talked about kind of the
992
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.079
research and the you know, Craig Brewer where he's kind
993
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:26.639
of grown up and lived. But I think a lot
994
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.280
of this has to come from some kind of personal
995
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:33.199
stories or they know somebody or a family member, Like
996
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I feel like Ludacris, I'm sure could get into character
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and base it off of somebody that somebody that.
998
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.880
He knew, or you know what I mean.
999
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.360
Definitely, Like it just feels like a lot of it
1000
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.440
is probably dealing with some personal stuff that they've you know,
1001
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.840
seen growing up or you know where they've come from.
1002
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:58.199
Yeah, but DJ is talking to Skinny Black, uh, trying
1003
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.039
to like like sell them some wet or whatever that
1004
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.559
that get together at the was it Crystal Palace?
1005
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:03.960
Yeah?
1006
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.360
I don't think his Crystal Palace is even open anymore
1007
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.280
down on Third on your way to Tunica. Anyway, he's
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looking at him, He's like, Ludacris makes a comment of
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like do you stand by your product or whatever? And
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00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.320
DJ just looks at hims like is a pig's pussy port?
1011
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:21.679
It's got some good liners like that.
1012
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.480
We're like, I couldn't say them, no, but it's funny
1013
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:30.639
when I hear like, especially in like and with that accent. Yeah,
1014
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.960
like nothing, it does it really get any better when
1015
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.880
you can deliver those lines in that kind of accent, I.
1016
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.639
Will say, Terrence Howard really put into work and it
1017
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.960
shows in his performance because that is Memphis through and
1018
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.679
through the way he speaks, walks, acts, looks the whole
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nine yards.
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But but what's crazy is, and I know we've talked
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about actors like this, and I don't know if terret
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00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.079
Terrence Howard gets enough appreciation for it, but the two
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00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:04.360
characters that he plays between crash and Hustle and Flow
1024
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.159
could not be any more opposite. Yeah, yeah, that just
1025
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.719
got like, what like what range? Yeah, not only range,
1026
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:13.559
but what an intro as far as like having these
1027
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.559
two kind of mainstream critical hits and they and they
1028
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.719
could not be further apart.
1029
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True thattt uh. That's all I have for Hustle and Flow,
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unless we want to add some more about it or
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trans America. Before we get out of here, I.
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Just want to say, real quick, you brought up the
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00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.159
area of Memphis going towards Tunica. There was one time
1034
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.320
I was driving through there and I pulled up to
1035
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.719
a stoplight and I noticed that a man was trying
1036
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:44.199
to move a mattress and it had fallen out of
1037
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.039
the back of his truck. So I hopped out of
1038
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the car. I put the car in park at the
1039
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.079
red light, hopped out of the car, ran over and
1040
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.280
helped this guy get the mattress back in the truck.
1041
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.159
And he looked at me and he was like, hey, man,
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00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.159
I appreciate you, but you got to get back in
1043
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.760
your car and get the hell out of here. Like,
1044
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:04.639
do not be getting out of your car in this
1045
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part of town. And I said, yes, sir, got back
1046
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.559
in the car. And when I looked around, I thought,
1047
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.599
this looks like the area that they shot Hustle and Flow.
1048
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:17.599
In It was, and that man was correct, motherfucker.
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00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:19.800
I love that you got helped.
1050
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.599
And he was like, I rather spend all day out here.
1051
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.079
Yeah, like you get shot. It was almost like you're
1052
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:29.760
gonna die. You're not safe. You need to get out
1053
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:30.039
of here.
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00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:31.320
He is not wrong.
1055
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:32.880
Is it one of those where like you would turn
1056
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.079
around and you see someone just drove off with your car.
1057
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.440
Yeah, I mean that's the car.
1058
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.440
I don't even know if you're okay.
1059
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.039
He's like, don't be, don't be doing this for people
1060
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.840
around here. I think is the exact words that he said,
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00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:45.119
don't be.
1062
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.199
Can he put a gun to your mouth and say, hey,
1063
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:48.239
I appreciate it.
1064
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.760
But no, no, he didn't, but it was. It was
1065
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.360
almost like he was looking around like he was and
1066
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:55.679
it made me nervous because I'm like, oh shit, like,
1067
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.840
is somebody about to jump out from a building.
1068
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:03.440
And it reminds me when we were uh yeah, and.
1069
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.119
We got on the wrong train. Oh y'all head of
1070
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.599
the wrong way. Okay, thank you?
1071
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.960
Yeah, we must have a look we probably do. Yeah, yeah,
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00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:14.800
you're sure.
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00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.480
Do you need help with your mattress?
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00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.480
For people around? Get back?
1075
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.559
Would have helped you if you would have tried to
1076
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:25.320
be like him?
1077
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:26.280
Yeah.
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00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:31.039
So our Mount Rushmore question for this episode is favorite
1079
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.079
movie set in or filmed in Tennessee.
1080
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.239
I know why you chose this, mccash, so you can
1081
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.840
tell us all the movies you've been in. This is
1082
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:43.159
why we come up with this question.
1083
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.079
My my list does not contain any of those films.
1084
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.239
Really, I swear to God. So the first one that
1085
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.280
comes to mind for me is walk the Line, Me too,
1086
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.920
because it does kind of feel like you you watch
1087
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.440
that movie in the setting, it's like you wreck ignize
1088
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.920
some of the places. It kind of feels like home.
1089
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.400
The only other ones that I remember, if we're doing
1090
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:11.800
a Mount Rushmore, I remember, was it the Green Mile. Yeah,
1091
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.440
that's one that people talk about a lot, and I
1092
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.840
just have this distinct memory of I think it's on
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00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.400
the way out to Franklin Green Hills, somewhere out there.
1094
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.119
Maybe we drive by a house and I remember you
1095
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.239
telling me once and I don't even know if it's true.
1096
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.119
You said that's the house they filmed hitch at.
1097
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:34.920
Oh yeah, I don't think that's true.
1098
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.400
And that was the memory. That was the memory that
1099
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:41.800
I had, But I will tell you so my Mount
1100
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:49.440
Rushmore is walk the Line to Green Mile hitch And
1101
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:55.480
then only because I rewatched this movie recently and discovered
1102
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.559
that it was filmed almost entirely in East Nashville, I'm
1103
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:00.920
gonna put Ernest scared stupid.
1104
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.079
And I was waiting for Ernest film.
1105
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:06.079
Because because I think all of them were filmed.
1106
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:11.159
I have the Green Mile. I do love that movie.
1107
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.079
And I still am amazed with Sam Rockwell, even though
1108
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:14.800
I didn't know that.
1109
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.320
Was like, yeah, Sam Rockwell, I had.
1110
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.000
Walked the line as well. I mean, I have Hustle
1111
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.119
and Flow. I just don't that's any better than that.
1112
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:28.760
And then one I was actually surprised to find out
1113
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.480
and I was like, oh, I have to put this
1114
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.960
in just because it's a it. It made a director,
1115
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.239
it made a star. It was this whole new way
1116
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:40.760
of doing horror.
1117
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.440
But the Evil Day, you're going to take that from me.
1118
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.400
Was it Morristown, Tennessee?
1119
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.639
I think somewhere in that in that area.
1120
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.880
Yeah, so anyway, those are yeah, those are mine. I
1121
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:57.000
almost did the Country Bears. Can y'all are y'all shocked
1122
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:58.159
that was filmed in Tennessee?
1123
00:57:58.280 --> 00:57:59.239
I'm not shocked at all.
1124
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.000
All right, mcash, go ahead? Did we take them all?
1125
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.559
You took three of my four Evil Dead, Hustle and
1126
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.039
Flow and Green Mile definitely remind I thought about the
1127
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.719
ernest films because I loved them as you did, but
1128
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.840
one that was really I was too young to see
1129
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:19.000
this film. But Coal Miner's Daughter was a film I
1130
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.480
loved as a child. Oddly enough, but that was filmed
1131
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:26.400
here in Tennessee, especially around Nashville a lot. But yeah,
1132
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:28.440
that's my top four. That's all I got.
1133
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.719
And you know what I liked, which actually I think
1134
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.039
I mentioned it, Black Snake Moan. But then The Last
1135
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.320
Castle James Gandalfini and Robert Rudford. I remember liking that
1136
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.400
when I was a kid, but fineless, fineless.
1137
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:45.039
Well, gentlemen, we're up against the clock, so let's cheers
1138
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.840
to another episode of drinking with where we've explored the
1139
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.440
films that have come of age just like a fine wine.
1140
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.880
And as we raise our glasses to movies turning twenty one,
1141
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.440
we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe shed a tier two over
1142
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.639
the timeless classics. So until next time, Mayor drinks me cold,
1143
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:01.840
your conversation is lively, and your movie night's unforgettable. Drink
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00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.800
responsibly and remember HS is just a number, but great
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00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.159
films or forever. You can find me on X at
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mc underscore Cast seventy five, on letterbox simply at Stephen
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mccash gentleman Telly's how they can find.
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You at Stony Keeley, at Sibro's network, and.
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00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:22.880
At Sir Brandon V on Twitter and at Sir Brandon
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00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:23.599
on letterbox.
1151
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.679
So until next time, keep your glasses full, of your
1152
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.679
candles lit, and remember the night doesn't end until the
1153
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.639
last scream fades. I don't know why I said that
1154
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.119
for a film in September, but I got some movie
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tapes to return, So we'll see you next time.