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Her like eyeball was like moving up and down kylight.
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She was having a caesar.
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Head trauma, skull fractures.
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Frankly, she also.
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Has some broken ribs. Wow, yes, wow, Lord.
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She called me on the phone like crying and she's
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did you drop my baby? There's a huge lump.
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On her left side of her brain and I was like, no,
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it would not ever drop her baby on purpose, You
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know what I mean.
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When a two month old baby girl is rushed to
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the hospital after suffering a seizure in the care of
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her babysitter, doctors discover alarming injuries that raise more questions
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than answers. As investigators search for the truth, they find
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themselves facing conflicting accounts, shifting blame, and a story that
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begins to feel hauntingly familiar.
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Did she tell you before the same particulation before has happened?
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No, you didn't.
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Mention that the following is based on official police records
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and the footage has never been seen before until now.
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Please note that old person charged with a crime are
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presumed innocent, un less, and until proven guilty in a
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court of law. In Oklahoma. On the morning of July fourteenth,
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twenty twenty three, twenty six year old Holly Marie Shepherd
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contacts Punka City nine to one one dispatchers.
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Hi, i's being a consident officer or not an officer? Sorry,
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like abyary, what's going on there? So baby sitting at
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two month old babies and she's kind of acting a
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little funny. She's kind of been a little punky. I
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just want to make sure that she's okay, and like
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her oxygen level, she's kind of like whims and kind
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of breathing funny. Her mom said she's been sick and stuff,
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and she's just kind of acting like out of it.
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I'm not normal. I just want to make sure she's
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okay because she's in my care.
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Paramedics find the infant, a two month old baby girl
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named Cora, in a dire state with part of her
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head appearing deformed. However, when they reach the mother on
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the phone, she panics, explaining Cora has defects of any kind.
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At the hospital, the truth, of course, condition begins to emerge,
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confirmed in a grim call between officers.
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They took once I got thoughts well, they took the
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child in to get CT imaging, and as they were
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finishing that up and taking the child back. The child
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started seizing after the CT imaging, so there's internal there's
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traumatic bleeding on the right side of the brain, and
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that's the injury that can be seen on the outside
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where it's kind of.
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Hold on.
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Me.
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Let me pulled the photos the nurse took.
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There was a visible mark on the right side of
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the child. I might have to call you back, but
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I think that's what I needed for the time being.
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Sounds good, Thank you, ma'am. You're welcome, thank you.
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But due to the severity of her condition, Baby Cora
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is flown by helicopter to a different hospital, where she
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fights for her life with unexplained injuries. Investigators turned to
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the three people who were in the home with the baby,
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the babysitter Holly, her mother in law Doretta, and Doretta's
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sister Doreen, each with their own account for what happened
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that morning.
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So I got Holly's statement, I got Grandma's statement, and
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I got Grandma's sister statement.
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Okay, all three of them.
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Yeah, did not add up.
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Investigators will examine the accounts of all three women, but
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the real challenge is figuring out where the lies end
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and the truth begins. According to the babysitter, Holly, two
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month old Cora had just been laid to bed for
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a nap when she began acting unusual. The officer begins
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photographing the crib where Holly put her down, when Doretta
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calls out to her, can I'm.
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Look in the crib?
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No?
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Does it?
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Can you just tell me what it looks like? Is
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there blankets in there? There's somebody in it?
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There's there's blankets in there. I can't tell you if
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someone's been sleeping in there or not.
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I just yeah, okay, I'm gonna keep that room. Is
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there something?
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What do you think?
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I can't take me out?
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Why she would put the baby in the bay bead,
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which is usually pushing the baby on the big head.
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I just switch stake on that.
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So let's say something would go against me.
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If you say something won't go against you, you're not
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under arrest.
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Okay.
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I don't want to say about that.
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It's gonna I don't want to hurt her, but I
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just wanted the baby.
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Off the bed.
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However, doctors noted injuries that point to something far more
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so Veer. Along with serious bleeding around her brain, they
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also found scattered skull fractures, as though something traumatically hit
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the child's head. They began questioning Holly, who was recently
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left in charge of the two month old and her
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four year old sister.
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I'm a member of on Facebook of a Punkas City
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area mom's group that I kind of talk on there
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to like just fellow moms and do like uh, playdates
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and stuff with other kids.
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Because I have two kids of my own.
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And McKenzie mom, she posted all her that she needed
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childcare and I told her I was staying home, you know,
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I have two kids. Met her at McDonald's and like
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her and her husband were like, okay, yeah, I like her.
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So we just I just sorted that this past like
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this week on Tuesday. But yeah, I mean, I don't
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know if she'll continue with me because of this, but
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she won't really talk to me.
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But yeah, so's.
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Hour of the week. So she just paid me today
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and then.
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Yeah, so pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah.
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In their initial Facebook messages, which started one week earlier,
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Holly had introduced herself as a wife and mother of two,
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stating she has tons of caregiving experience. Mackenzie admitted she
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was nervous about leaving her children with a stranger, but
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said Holly reassured her by offering several family members as references,
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including her mother in law Doretta.
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And how many kids were you watching for?
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Just too? Just too?
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Yeah, so mine to go to daycare? Okay, yeah, okay,
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And which is kind of.
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Weird because I'm like, well, I miss my kids.
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You know, but yeah, my kids love their daycare.
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So Holly goes on to explain what happened after Sam
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took their two children to daycare and headed to work,
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leaving Holly and Doretta alone with Mackenzie's two children.
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So, and I always call it ten thirty seven. So, okay,
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she ate. I made her bottle around ten ten, ten
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to fifteen.
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Ish, and I was sitting on a couch and I'm
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holding her.
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She's been kind of cranky this morning, so I don't
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know if she was dealing this up some gas or
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what was going on, but she was kind of cranky.
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So I fed her.
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She drank maybe two ounces of her bottle, and she
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fell asleep with my arms so up the bottle down,
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kind of covered up at the blanket and like sat
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there to make sure that she's like asleep. Then I
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stand up and I bring.
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Her to my daughter's bed in the crib and just.
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Set her down kind of slaw other turned on the
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nightlight and the.
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Little lullaby music thing, and then walked out to kind
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of handle. I looted her a band of course to
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hear her, but to tend to Audrey and then probably
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around like I want to say, ten thirty five.
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So two minutes before I called, I noticed, like I
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was sitting there playing with Audrey on the floor and
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I just hear Coral, which is the baby thing, just
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like scream, like screwing.
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Cry, like a heart cry, and like our cats are outside.
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There's not like she doesn't roll over yet, She's only
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two months.
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And so I ran in there, turned the light on,
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picked her up, and I noticed but like she her
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arms were just like stretched out, like they were so stiff,
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and her eyes were kind of like I don't know
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how to.
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Describe it, like like she.
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Was like like she kept like yeah that and like
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her eye, her like eyeball was like moving up and
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down kind of like she was having a seizure.
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And I'm gonna start to find medical assistant.
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So I kind of like know the signs of that,
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and it looked like a seizure to me.
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So I just immediately like I.
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Picked her up and like I said, I saw that,
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and then her arms were stiff and she was kind
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of breathing funny.
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So I was like, okay, I'm calling on one.
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After learning of Cora's injuries, the infant's mother called Holly
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to demand answers.
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She called me and she said, hey, did you drop
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my baby? Like she called me on the phone like crying,
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and she did you drop my baby? There's that huge
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lump on her left side of her brain or her head.
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And I was like, no, I would not ever drop
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her baby on purpose, you know what I mean.
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I mean, there's no.
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Way we were Doretta and her sister at like whenever
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the baby was the girl.
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Doretta is brought in for questioning, and although she recalls
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the morning much like Holly does, one important detail doesn't
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quite align.
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Holly was fading the baby and the little girl's plan
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and my little hisster come in.
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We stood there talking well, Holly was holding the baby
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and then started crying a little bit. Just then my
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sister talked and we went out the yard and loaded
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up their conditioners. We stood out there docked out there.
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In the car, you know.
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But then Holly comes out now the house, said that
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she had to call the am once night, and so
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why she said, Well, the baby's not drawing.
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The baby all right. So the only person that was
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inside the house was Holly at that time, and you
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and her sister were outside, right.
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Though Holly claimed Doretta and Doreen were with her in
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the living room, Doretta's account puts the two of them outside,
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leaving Holly alone with the baby before placing her in
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the crib. Still, Doretta remains unconvinced that Cora was ever
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in the crib at all.
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I'm thinking that she puts.
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The baby on the bed on the baby fellas, Okay,
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I'm thinking, do you think that that's what happened him?
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Thank you very much?
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Okay, Women she thinks that, well, because she don't.
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She hasn't far up because this week she has never
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put that baby and that clib, She's always put it in.
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On the ben.
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Despite this unusual change and routine, Holly stands firm that
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the baby was in the crib before then, she had
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otherwise been in her arms or Doretta's But.
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The only time she was alone with the baby is
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whenever I was in the kitchen for maybe three for.
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Minutes, Doretta Coretta like, she a whole maybe for me
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by herself wheneverfore was she out with the baby only couch?
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Said on the couch, did she tell you something happened
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while she no?
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And I after and she said no, not that I
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can recall that.
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I mean, she does have and she's showing some signs
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of like dementia and so, but I would feel like
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if it's.
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Something serious, or I would have heard as up of
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something if she dropped her or hit her, which you know,
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I don't think she would do that.
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Now in your kitchen, you said, Gretta was in the
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living room, in which casey from the kitchen to the
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living room or is there a there's a long okay,
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So that's the only time that that Quorra was out
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of your side by the side out with you, not
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anything like that.
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Before addressing this with Coretta, the detective explains the seriousness
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of the situation and delivers a shocking update about Chorus injuries.
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You can see it's it's a little red right there.
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You're starting to swell right. You can see the difference
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where the swelling start is read right, Yeah, by her temple. Yeah,
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so okay. There's also she also has some broken ribs. Yes, okay.
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So that's why it's important for me to find out
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what what happened or how how everything happened. At any
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point in time, were you left by yourself with uh
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with corals the little baby?
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Yes?
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Yes, were you like left by yourself where you were
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messing with her? That was all in the kitchen at
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all times, I mean in the living room okay, with elements.
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So at no point in time were you by yourself? Okay. Now,
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she also mentioned that you had the offsets of dementia.
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That's what she mentioned. Is that true? No, that's not true.
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No, I.
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Taken medicine, but I don't have demnia.
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And I'm like, no, I might forget a little bit.
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But I was out fine, okay. And when she went
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to go make a bottle for in the kitchen, she
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said that there's a wall in the kitchen that you
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can't see into the living room, and that you were
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left by yourself with the baby, and that that's the
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only time that she that she did not have any
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eyes on the baby. Sir. No, sir, that is not true, sir.
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She did not I did not be in that with
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that baby by my fild.
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With conflicting stories from the two women, investigators questioned to
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Rette sister Doreen. Her statement validates one of their stories,
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but ribs an entirely new hole in another.
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We just got up and right outside and was taking
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air conditions.
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And stayed inside, and Holly came out. She said, Uh,
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something's wrong with the baby's breathing.
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Can you come a check.
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So we ran into the house.
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The baby was in the carrier and uh, what.
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Do you mean?
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Said?
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She just stopped breathing right.
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And so she said, I've called the mother and the angulis,
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you know. And so we still and waiting for the ambulus.
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I stayed in the house of Ethne girl and my.
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Sister and Holly went out doing this.
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But ask her, I don't know what happened, Oka, you know,
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I didn't hear nothing, drop all anything.
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Her account confirms that she and Doretta were both outside
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placing Holly alone with baby Cora inside the house, but
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her claimed that the baby was found in the car
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seat rather than the crib raises new questions.
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Did she say why she had the baby in the
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car seat?
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No, she did say I was fixing to go some
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diapers or something, and she said.
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To the ambulance.
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And this creates a gap in Holly's account. Was she
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putting the baby down for a nap as she claimed,
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or preparing to leave with her. Detectives spoke to Holly's husband, Sam,
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who showed them Facebook messages from Holly that morning. She'd
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been planning to bring him a drink at work, writing
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It'll be a minute feeding the baby shortly after, she
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dialed nine one one after the ambulance left, Sam says
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she met him in person and told them the baby
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had a seizure before returning to the house where police
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were waiting to speak with her. She then sent messages
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saying I'm scared our babies will be taken away. I
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didn't do anything. I don't abuse children. She also snapped
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a photo of one of the officers, writing FML, an
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abbreviation which commonly means my life.
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Why is she worried about her kids getting taken away?
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Or your kids taken away? Just because, like I told her,
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if the baby had a seizure, they're going to be
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able to prove it. It's an injury. It's not a seasure.
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It's it's a seizure that was caused by an injury.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Speaking once more with Deretta, the detective wonders if Holly
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is telling the truth or possibly shifting the blame.
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She's lying about you being alone with her today?
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Absolutely absolutely, because I had my sister there.
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And then do.
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You have any idea why she's trying to say that
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you were by herself or why she's trying to blame
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on you, I don't know.
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And that's what exactly what my sister said that you did,
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I mean my daughter say she said, Mama, she said
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she heard that baby, and you bet she's going to
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try to skip the blame on to you.
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Want to get kids.
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And I walked him out and around.
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And then she left you.
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Okay, she supposed she wants she wants supposed to.
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She asked her to hang type.
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Polly is found walking four blocks away from the police station,
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and they bring her back to confront her with everything
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they've uncovered.
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Here's the I just need you to tell me the
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truth so that I can try to tell the doctors
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down there.
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What happened.
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Okay, there's certain things that you kind of lied to
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me about that were verified by other people. Okay. The
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first thing is you didn't tell me that you had
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the baby in the car seat, that you were going
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to take the baby with you to go buy some
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diapers at the same time that you were going to
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take a drink or supposed to take a drink to Sam. Right,
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and during that time, you were the only one that
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was inside the house by yourself with the baby. You
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told me that Veren and Doretta were both in the
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house at that time whenever the baby started crying and
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you went in there and freaked out, and then they
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went outside. Okay, they're both telling me different. Your brother
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in law got really offended and whenever.
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I asked her about her dementia and got really upset
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about it. That is very easily verifiable, which she said,
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you know, you can contact my doctor.
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Here's his name, blah blah blah.
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Here's the information that it's really easily be very verifiable.
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She does have dementia.
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Right, Okay, I just need you to be straight with me,
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and now I feel like you are. If you're gonna
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keep playing these games, you're just gonna make it worse
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on yourself instead of just being honest with me. That's
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all I'm asking you to do. Okay, I'm not trying
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to take your kids.
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I don't care.
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About taking your kids. I care about finding out what
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happened and finding out the truth. That's all I'm after
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is the truth. But you keep saying, okay, but you
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don't want to tell me the truth about what happened.
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I thought that I don't want to and I'm just
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trying to remember because I'm all frazzled because of this
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is crazy, that's all.
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He continues to withhold the truth. Another detective steps in
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and takes a more direct approach.
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The road established the timeline. He was the only one
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with the kid. Okay, Okay, this kid has very bad injuries,
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Okay to its end, Okay, something that only could have
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happened whenever the kid was with you today. Okay. And
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I'm going to give you the opportunity to let not
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look like this monster sitting here that's not telling the truth,
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and be a compassionate young woman and tell us what
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happened to this child. Okay. If not, then I'm going
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to make you out to be the monster that you are,
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the babies and surgery and may die. Do you want
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to get a killer or you want remorseful, then tell
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me what happened to that child. This is your opportunity.
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I'm listening only.
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So I put her down for her nap. That was true.
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That was it was in her crib.
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On the way back, Audrey had a toy on the
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floor and I accidentally tripped.
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You should be for life. I was scared, but I
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also needed you to You had all the opportunity to
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cry before.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm not very remorseful right now because you sat here
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and lied. Okay, but I also want you to tell
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the entire story where he tripped. What hit her head?
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Because something hit her head very badly. She has skull
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fractures across the whole back of her head. Okay, so
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start over and tell me what happened. If you tripped,
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you tell me what what she hit, what you did afterwards, everything.
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Okay.
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So I was walking, like I said, from the crib,
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which is in the my bedroom, like out of the
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hallway into the living room. There was a big like
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my son's big monster truck right there, and I fell over.
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And like I like.
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Tripped and she fell out of my hands and just
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hit the floor. Like I don't I don't remember anything
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being underneath her head.
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The bruising is I wouldn't say cylindrical, but long, okay,
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like edge of the crib, edge of the wall, edge
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of this is he's being serious about I can. I
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can give the doctor's information about what happened.
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I'm just trying to remember what if, like there was
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anything under her head. All I know is I tripped
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and fell, and yeah, her head hit The trailer of
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the part was like this walk and then what happened?
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And then I picked her up and called ninety one.
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Does that whenever she had the stiff and had a
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seizure life, whenever she hit her head.
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Yes, and her eyes were like doing bad and breaking up.
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I didn't need to fall.
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So your first in classion of having an accident with
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a two ninnth old child was to save yourself and
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not tell somebody what happened.
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I was just skim.
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The detective leaves the room to provide an update, while
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the other remains with Holly, still questioning how the baby
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could have landed on the same toy Holly tripped over.
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He allows her to demonstrate the fall.
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I was walking with him like this, and I guess
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I tripped and fell because I remember my foot going
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like this and then I get like, I guess my
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foot kicked it.
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And then when she fell, she felt like this on it.
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So man, when when she fell? How did you did
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you drop her? Did you go down with her? Like? How?
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How does that like show me exactly like how it went?
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Okay, I'm trying to Okay, So I tripped, my foot
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had her and then I guess it ticked that.
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So then I fell and I guess I let go
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of her because that's when she hit her.
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Head like that.
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Like I guess this would be because I gots her head.
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Did you drop her from up top all the way
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or what?
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I think? I had her like mid and then I
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lost yeah, then I.
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Lost my ballant then you dropped her going yeah, and
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so did you drop her completely?
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Okay? So she hit the floor, I think she like.
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I think she hit the back of the toy like
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on the trailer part. I'll just show you. It's a
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big like to my like plastic truck.
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I wish I had a picture of it, but yeah, right,
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but I didn't like purposely hurt her or you know,
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like purposely hit her on the floor.
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Where is it?
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Huh, it's just the way in the living room.
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Did you move it? Yeah, we moved in Okay, we I.
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Mean I did.
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Yeah, you said we sorry?
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No, no, no, no, it was me.
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The plastic truck and trailer was found at the home,
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though investigators noted that dust particles were present on top
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of the toy and it didn't appear to have been disturbed.
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I feel like you're all right, and I don't like it. Okay.
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Have I treated you like you're an idiot? Have I
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insulted you in any which way by treating you like
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you're an idiot? Don't do the same thing to me. Okay,
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that's exactly what you're doing.
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And I don't like it.
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Understand, what are they going to find? What's different from
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what you have told me? So and really diggy today.
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So I told twice today, but the first time was
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this morning before this accident. And she did not hit
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her head. So you felt twice with her in your arm.
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Yes.
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And I usually don't drink coffee, and I drink like
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two cups of coffee because I was tired, and I've
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been like really shaky today and dizzy. So say, here's
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the couch. So here's the couch.
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And like I said, I laid I lay her like
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on the couch and a kneel, right.
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So, and after I changed her diaper and her clothes
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to the pink umsie which the black pants, I picked
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her up and I went to go throw the diaper
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in the trash in the kitchen, and I was in
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my socks and I just kind of lost my balance.
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I was kind of like I got really really dizzy,
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and I like and this time I had her like
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cradled and I kind of just fell like straight down
500
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and I sat there for a minute and I like
501
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.400
saw stars and then I got up, so I like
502
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.480
clinched onto her so she didn't fall, she didn't hit
503
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.680
her head. But I just wanted to tell you that
504
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.880
because but that's not really impertinent to like her head injury.
505
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.319
She's got two skull pressures on all sides of that.
506
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.079
Okay, okay, yes, if you get hit on.
507
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.519
This side, you're not gonna have a skull precture on
508
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:22.880
the side. You understand again, stop understand. I I don't
509
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:24.039
know why you keep doing that.
510
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.759
The detective asked Holly to demonstrate again exactly how the
511
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.039
baby fell, not once but twice.
512
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.880
Like you're going to drop this when she dropped drop it, yeah, okay,
513
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:35.839
I just didn't know drop it all right.
514
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.519
My feelings any okay.
515
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.759
So like I had her and I tripped and she
516
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:40.920
fell like right here.
517
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.079
Like that, and the truck, the truck, okay. Then second
518
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:46.200
time okay.
519
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.119
So I was on my side and I think at
520
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.960
that time she hit like the on the right side,
521
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.480
like I mean, it looked like she fell just straight down,
522
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.319
not really any particular her side. So that's where I'm
523
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.480
kind of confused to why she has too you know.
524
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.279
Yeah, okay, so you go to pick her up.
525
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.240
Yeah, So I kind of did this and I grabbed
526
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:21.359
her like this, and I did this, and I got like,
527
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.079
I don't know how you would say that, like off
528
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.359
balance okay, and just dropped her.
529
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:40.200
Hold drop her like that a second time, dropping from
530
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:41.559
even how tall are you?
531
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:43.960
Like five six and a half five six and a
532
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.359
half five feet six.
533
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.960
Inches, It's not going to cause his skull fracture to happen.
534
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.359
It takes a tremendous amount of force. She either had
535
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.960
to hit something that's super hard, okay with this, or
536
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:05.079
you had to grab her be so frustrated and mad that.
537
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:05.799
You slammed her.
538
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.279
You understand, you can't change the laws of physics.
539
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.799
As much as you want.
540
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.799
To, you can't, okay, Just like you can't change the
541
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.359
gravitational pool on how fast somebody falls. You cannot change that.
542
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:21.400
Okay.
543
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.640
Well you're telling me about just dropping her and her
544
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.079
falling down is not going to cause that amount of damage.
545
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.079
Well, I just wanted to tell you what the absolute.
546
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.640
So you dropped her about halfway down, about three feet
547
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.680
off the ground when you tripped, and she hit the
548
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.599
first The first times the thing, you picked her up,
549
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.559
and the last time you're fully up. He said, you
550
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.319
dropped her again, And that's what happened.
551
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.599
Yes, and that's not going to change no what Holly
552
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.240
now committed to her revised story, Investigators turned their attention
553
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.799
to why she made an attempt to cover up the truth.
554
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.039
Why did you tell anybody to begin with?
555
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.920
Because I was scared to get locked up?
556
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:02.599
But here I am.
557
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:11.880
Accidents happen all the time when you move heard up,
558
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.440
look at me. I need you to stop crying right now, okay,
559
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.519
because you've cried so many different times for so many
560
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.640
different reasons that I don't even know if it's the
561
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.880
truth right now, that you're actually feeling remorseful.
562
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.759
I am, you get what I'm saying, Like, I don't
563
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.000
even know, Like how were you even able to look
564
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.240
at that mother and just so cold not feel terrible
565
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:39.079
and remorseful for.
566
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:39.559
What you did?
567
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.279
Like I cried the whole way from my house to
568
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.119
meeting her at the hospital, and her and her husband
569
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.240
were already like bawling. I didn't want to add to that.
570
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.440
Though Holly repeatedly claimed she was crying over the incident,
571
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.319
Cora's grandmother said that when she arrived to pick up
572
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.039
the four year old, it was Doretta who was in tears,
573
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.720
while Holly appeared completely straight faced.
574
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.119
I mean, I didn't feel like you guys are thinking
575
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.440
I'm going to just throw this baby on.
576
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.359
Honestly, I think that's what you did. I think that's
577
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.119
exactly what you did, and you just don't want to
578
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.880
say it because you're afraid of any consequences or whatever.
579
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.039
But I honestly think.
580
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.680
That's what it is.
581
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.039
What it is, I think your anxiety, she was cranky.
582
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.880
It's not your baby. You don't know what it's normal
583
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:28.920
things are. Your anxiety kicked in and before you knew it,
584
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.319
you were doing something that that you're like, holy craft,
585
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.359
that's not what I meant to do. I think that's
586
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.880
what happened, And I hate that you think that you're
587
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.480
the one that's gonna have to explain it to them,
588
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.440
And you're the one's gonna have to explain why A
589
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.799
and B doing it up to see the doctor at
590
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.319
the children's hospital is going to tell us exactly what
591
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.640
happened and how it happened and how hard that the
592
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:56.119
baby's skull was hit. Okay, babies and young children, they
593
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.200
are the hardest ones to break bones because they're not
594
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.720
set like yours or mine. Their bones are still growing.
595
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.400
They're really really flexible. You really have to do something
596
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.119
with a lot of force to be able to break
597
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.039
their bones. You can't change that, and you can't hide.
598
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.519
That, Like, I don't know what you're wanting me to do.
599
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.799
I'm not gonna lie and say I just dropped her
600
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.559
because I'm mad.
601
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:23.799
I would never do that on purpose ever, Like, yes,
602
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.400
I have anxiety, Yes I have depression, I have all
603
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.359
this stuff. I'm on meds for it and trying does
604
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.359
not bother me. Like my kids whine all the time.
605
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.839
I don't hit them, and I don't abuse them.
606
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:40.480
I'm not an abuser. So I mean, I don't know
607
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.720
what you want me to tell you. I didn't purposely
608
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.759
throw her or purposely drop her. Like I'm already locked up.
609
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.680
There's no point in lying to you, or lying to
610
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.319
the judge or whoever else I talk to. There's no point.
611
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.599
But I don't know why you're putting in Joel when
612
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.160
I didn't do it on purpose.
613
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.759
You lied several times about why you did what you did.
614
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.960
Because I didn't want my cats to be taken away,
615
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.240
and now they are.
616
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.920
Though she maintains this new version of events is the
617
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.880
honest truth, a shocking revelation will soon shed an entirely
618
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.200
new light on the case. For now, she's arrested and
619
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.559
booked into the k County Detention Center. Five days later,
620
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.559
officers present a warrant to search her phone and face
621
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:34.559
a new challenge.
622
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.319
The password to your Oh gosh, she would ask me that.
623
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.599
I, like I have don't have it in my hands, so.
624
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:45.519
I'm trying to remember.
625
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.000
Sorry, it's kind of inappropriate, Okay, Okay, So it's capital say.
626
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:52.559
T A Y.
627
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:54.680
T H E.
628
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.319
F U C K O U T twenty nine and
629
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.000
then four exclamation points.
630
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.480
Okay, so your password is a number on your phone
631
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.839
because it pops up with a number. So does it
632
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.519
also allow you to do letters? Because your password is
633
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.440
just like any other phone? Yeah, so like whenever you
634
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:20.400
click on the phone.
635
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:20.839
Yeah.
636
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.319
Still, Holly insists that her phone doesn't have a numeric
637
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.680
password and never supplies one. Investigators later obtained the correct
638
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.920
pin code from her husband Sam. They discovered that while
639
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.440
at the crime scene, Holly made several Internet searches, including
640
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.039
can a seizure cause a brain bleed? Will a two
641
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.160
month old survive a brain bleed? And what happens if
642
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.359
a baby has a fractured skull? But it's what Duretta
643
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.319
told investigators during her interview that truly left them stunned.
644
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.960
Did she tell you before the same situation before it
645
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.400
has happened.
646
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.480
No, she didn't mention that, So what's happened before?
647
00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:58.880
Should I say anything?
648
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.480
Doretta has? But after the detective pointed out that Holly
649
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.480
tried placing the blame on her, she started to share
650
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.839
what she knew, probably about.
651
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.440
She had three other kids.
652
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.400
She was married, was a babysit for this lady, and
653
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.079
the lady brought the baby over and Holly's husband was
654
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.679
there too, so when the baby came, she brought the
655
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.039
baby over that she put the car seat down on
656
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.760
the couch and they had the blanket over. I don't know,
657
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.679
I forget this little boy little girl over, Remember, she said.
658
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.960
The mom told her she don't have to take the
659
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.320
blanket off because she sleeps all the time. Well, Holly
660
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.840
took it off and there's a bump on the baby's head.
661
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.760
They called the NamUs, took the baby to the hospital.
662
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:40.039
The baby died.
663
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.000
The case, which occurred in Oklahoma City in twenty eighteen,
664
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.199
bears striking similarities that are impossible to ignore. She'd met
665
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.960
the mom on Facebook and began babysitting her three week
666
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.400
old infant. Three days later, Holly reported there was something
667
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.400
wrong with the baby. She was rushed to the hospital,
668
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.280
where it was discovered the baby had multiple skull frackures
669
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.320
and bleeding in the brain, resulting in her death. However,
670
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.159
according to news articles at the time, police were unable
671
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.920
to prove the injury happened under Holly's care, and no
672
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.880
charges wherever filed. Now, in a case that echoes the past,
673
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.639
baby Cora is fighting to stay alive, still searching for answers.
674
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.360
Investigators follow up with Deretta and Sam, hoping Holly may
675
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.960
have shared the truth with one of them.
676
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:32.920
Cora's injuries are not plausible from what she told us, Okay,
677
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:40.880
on pot on any of it, Yes, yes, dropping the baby,
678
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.920
the baby being hit, all that stuff, that's that's not
679
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.960
a possibility. How she's telling me that it occurred is
680
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.840
not a possibility. Okay, Now, I know whenever I spoke
681
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.119
to you, you knew about the incident that happened in
682
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.320
Oklahoma City. Okay, you didn't bring that up to me.
683
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.559
So that's why I'm here. She told you anything about that?
684
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.480
How she told you anything about what happened to Oklahoma City?
685
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:06.880
Because I'll be honest with you. The Oklahoma City thing
686
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.480
met somebody on Facebook was babysitting baby, was in a
687
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:21.599
car seat, head trauma, skull fractures, frame belief. Did you
688
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.400
question her about this after this incident? About this one, yes,
689
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.880
like about the Oklahoma City in this because I mean
690
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:28.480
they're mirrored.
691
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.159
Like I said, I didn't find out about the truck
692
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.679
until yesterday at the meeting, and then it clicked and
693
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:34.400
you guys took it.
694
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.639
Yeah, I didn't know story truck. I mean it was
695
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.800
there that morning, and I don't know what the little
696
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.400
girls told you. But she was out over her playing,
697
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.639
So I don't know if they questioned her, if she
698
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.639
mentioned about something.
699
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:55.119
I don't know, I know, big question.
700
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.199
According to Cora's grandmother, or she asked the four year
701
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.480
old if her sister had fallen. The girl initially said no,
702
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.840
but later stated the couch hit baby sister.
703
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:15.320
So all she's told you is just that she went
704
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.880
into the room, picked up the baby, came back out,
705
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:25.239
tripped over the truck, and dropped the baby day put
706
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.000
in the car seat.
707
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:27.079
Just one time.
708
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.360
Yeah, all she said was one time. There's one message
709
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.079
on there that I asked about it, and she wanted
710
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:36.880
to know what I wanted to know, and I told
711
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.480
her I want to know the truth. She said that
712
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.920
she didn't drop the baby twice and that you misunderstood
713
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:43.559
her or something.
714
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.960
No, I didn't. She told me that I did not
715
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:52.800
misunderstand her. She flat out told me I dropped the
716
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.760
baby twice. If there's anything at all that she has
717
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.880
told you, where she's telling you what happened to that
718
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.719
to Kora. You you need to let us know.
719
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:06.880
I definitely will.
720
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.719
You need to let us know if she tells you
721
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.719
anything about what happened in Oklahoma City, or or if
722
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.519
you know anything about what happened in Oklahoma City, you
723
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.360
need to let us know. Because I'm telling you right
724
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.880
now from experience Oklahoma City, and this is mirrored. It's mirrored.
725
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.000
Still. Sam insists that he was lied to and has
726
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.960
no new information. In uncovered Facebook conversations with his brother,
727
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.000
Sam expressed frustration over being lied to by Holly, adding
728
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.599
that he needs to cut ties and contact for the
729
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.960
sake of his kids. Holly meanwhile continued to send him
730
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.320
text from the jail's messaging system, begging him not to
731
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.719
leave her. Whatever the truth about Cora may be, it
732
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:48.880
isn't revealed in any of the messages.
733
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:50.800
I just don't know what could happen.
734
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:55.880
From what you should.
735
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:58.840
I don't think it was unvented. I really think that
736
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.840
it's not from a fall. I couldn't tell you only
737
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.880
only she would be able to answer that question. But
738
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.280
it's not from It's not how she's telling us that
739
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:09.800
it happened.
740
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.800
Hally's refusal to give a clear account has left the
741
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.039
truth about what happened to Cora a mystery, but against
742
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.199
all odds, the infant survived. Cora's mother posted this video
743
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.559
update to Facebook on August twenty ninth, twenty twenty three.
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Yes missed.
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So as a fast from the hospital to Jay Yay.
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We're so excited we get to the art.
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While baby Cora suffers from ongoing health complications, she continues
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to persevere and celebrated her second birthday in April of
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twenty twenty five. Mackenzie chronicles her ongoing recovery and continues
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to provide updates on her Facebook page, Cora's Journey. Twenty
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six year old Holly Marie Shephard was formally charged with
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filanny child abuse, placed on a five hundred thousand dollars bond,
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and ordered no contact with miners. She didn't post bond
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and remained in custody, receiving only a temporary medical release
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due to her being pregnant, with a court order requiring
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her to report back to jail immediately after hospital discharge.
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The current placement and care of Holly's infant are unknown.
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On November twenty six, twenty twenty four, Holly entered a
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plea of no contest in Chorus case. She was sentenced
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to life in prison, with eligibility for parole after twenty
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five years. In twenty twenty five, while serving her life sentence,
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Holly was separately charged with first degree murder in connection
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to the twenty eighteen death of a three week old infant,
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a development that offered hope for resolution in the case.
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After seven years, she entered a plea of not guilty,
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and the case is still ongoing, with a hearing scheduled
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for October twenty twenty five. If you'd like to see
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Her like eyeball was like moving up and down kylight.
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She was having a caesar.
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Head trauma, skull fractures.
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Frankly, she also.
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Has some broken ribs. Wow, yes, wow, Lord.
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She called me on the phone like crying and she's
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did you drop my baby? There's a huge lump.
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On her left side of her brain and I was like, no,
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it would not ever drop her baby on purpose, You
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know what I mean.
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When a two month old baby girl is rushed to
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the hospital after suffering a seizure in the care of
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her babysitter, doctors discover alarming injuries that raise more questions
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than answers. As investigators search for the truth, they find
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themselves facing conflicting accounts, shifting blame, and a story that
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begins to feel hauntingly familiar.
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Did she tell you before the same particulation before has happened?
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No, you didn't.
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Mention that the following is based on official police records
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and the footage has never been seen before until now.
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Please note that old person charged with a crime are
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presumed innocent, un less, and until proven guilty in a
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court of law. In Oklahoma. On the morning of July fourteenth,
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twenty twenty three, twenty six year old Holly Marie Shepherd
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contacts Punka City nine to one one dispatchers.
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Hi, i's being a consident officer or not an officer? Sorry,
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like abyary, what's going on there? So baby sitting at
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two month old babies and she's kind of acting a
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little funny. She's kind of been a little punky. I
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just want to make sure that she's okay, and like
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her oxygen level, she's kind of like whims and kind
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of breathing funny. Her mom said she's been sick and stuff,
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and she's just kind of acting like out of it.
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I'm not normal. I just want to make sure she's
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okay because she's in my care.
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Paramedics find the infant, a two month old baby girl
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named Cora, in a dire state with part of her
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head appearing deformed. However, when they reach the mother on
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the phone, she panics, explaining Cora has defects of any kind.
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At the hospital, the truth, of course, condition begins to emerge,
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confirmed in a grim call between officers.
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They took once I got thoughts well, they took the
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child in to get CT imaging, and as they were
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finishing that up and taking the child back. The child
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started seizing after the CT imaging, so there's internal there's
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traumatic bleeding on the right side of the brain, and
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that's the injury that can be seen on the outside
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where it's kind of.
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Hold on.
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Me.
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Let me pulled the photos the nurse took.
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There was a visible mark on the right side of
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the child. I might have to call you back, but
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I think that's what I needed for the time being.
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Sounds good, Thank you, ma'am. You're welcome, thank you.
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But due to the severity of her condition, Baby Cora
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is flown by helicopter to a different hospital, where she
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fights for her life with unexplained injuries. Investigators turned to
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the three people who were in the home with the baby,
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the babysitter Holly, her mother in law Doretta, and Doretta's
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sister Doreen, each with their own account for what happened
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that morning.
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So I got Holly's statement, I got Grandma's statement, and
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I got Grandma's sister statement.
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Okay, all three of them.
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Yeah, did not add up.
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Investigators will examine the accounts of all three women, but
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the real challenge is figuring out where the lies end
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and the truth begins. According to the babysitter, Holly, two
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month old Cora had just been laid to bed for
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a nap when she began acting unusual. The officer begins
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photographing the crib where Holly put her down, when Doretta
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calls out to her, can I'm.
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Look in the crib?
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No?
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Does it?
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Can you just tell me what it looks like? Is
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there blankets in there? There's somebody in it?
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There's there's blankets in there. I can't tell you if
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someone's been sleeping in there or not.
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I just yeah, okay, I'm gonna keep that room. Is
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there something?
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What do you think?
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I can't take me out?
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Why she would put the baby in the bay bead,
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which is usually pushing the baby on the big head.
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I just switch stake on that.
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So let's say something would go against me.
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If you say something won't go against you, you're not
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under arrest.
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Okay.
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I don't want to say about that.
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It's gonna I don't want to hurt her, but I
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just wanted the baby.
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Off the bed.
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However, doctors noted injuries that point to something far more
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so Veer. Along with serious bleeding around her brain, they
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also found scattered skull fractures, as though something traumatically hit
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the child's head. They began questioning Holly, who was recently
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left in charge of the two month old and her
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four year old sister.
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I'm a member of on Facebook of a Punkas City
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area mom's group that I kind of talk on there
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to like just fellow moms and do like uh, playdates
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and stuff with other kids.
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Because I have two kids of my own.
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childcare and I told her I was staying home, you know,
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I have two kids. Met her at McDonald's and like
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her and her husband were like, okay, yeah, I like her.
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So we just I just sorted that this past like
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this week on Tuesday. But yeah, I mean, I don't
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know if she'll continue with me because of this, but
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she won't really talk to me.
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But yeah, so's.
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Hour of the week. So she just paid me today
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and then.
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Yeah, so pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah.
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In their initial Facebook messages, which started one week earlier,
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Holly had introduced herself as a wife and mother of two,
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stating she has tons of caregiving experience. Mackenzie admitted she
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was nervous about leaving her children with a stranger, but
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said Holly reassured her by offering several family members as references,
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including her mother in law Doretta.
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And how many kids were you watching for?
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Just too? Just too?
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Yeah, so mine to go to daycare? Okay, yeah, okay,
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And which is kind of.
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Weird because I'm like, well, I miss my kids.
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You know, but yeah, my kids love their daycare.
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So Holly goes on to explain what happened after Sam
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took their two children to daycare and headed to work,
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leaving Holly and Doretta alone with Mackenzie's two children.
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So, and I always call it ten thirty seven. So, okay,
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she ate. I made her bottle around ten ten, ten
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to fifteen.
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Ish, and I was sitting on a couch and I'm
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holding her.
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She's been kind of cranky this morning, so I don't
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know if she was dealing this up some gas or
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what was going on, but she was kind of cranky.
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So I fed her.
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She drank maybe two ounces of her bottle, and she
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fell asleep with my arms so up the bottle down,
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kind of covered up at the blanket and like sat
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there to make sure that she's like asleep. Then I
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stand up and I bring.
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Her to my daughter's bed in the crib and just.
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Set her down kind of slaw other turned on the
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nightlight and the.
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Little lullaby music thing, and then walked out to kind
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of handle. I looted her a band of course to
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hear her, but to tend to Audrey and then probably
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around like I want to say, ten thirty five.
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So two minutes before I called, I noticed, like I
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was sitting there playing with Audrey on the floor and
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I just hear Coral, which is the baby thing, just
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like scream, like screwing.
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Cry, like a heart cry, and like our cats are outside.
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There's not like she doesn't roll over yet, She's only
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two months.
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And so I ran in there, turned the light on,
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picked her up, and I noticed but like she her
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arms were just like stretched out, like they were so stiff,
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and her eyes were kind of like I don't know
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how to.
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Describe it, like like she.
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Was like like she kept like yeah that and like
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her eye, her like eyeball was like moving up and
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down kind of like she was having a seizure.
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And I'm gonna start to find medical assistant.
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So I kind of like know the signs of that,
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and it looked like a seizure to me.
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So I just immediately like I.
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Picked her up and like I said, I saw that,
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and then her arms were stiff and she was kind
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of breathing funny.
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After learning of Cora's injuries, the infant's mother called Holly
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to demand answers.
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She called me and she said, hey, did you drop
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my baby? Like she called me on the phone like crying,
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and she did you drop my baby? There's that huge
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lump on her left side of her brain or her head.
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And I was like, no, I would not ever drop
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her baby on purpose, you know what I mean.
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I mean, there's no.
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Way we were Doretta and her sister at like whenever
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the baby was the girl.
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Doretta is brought in for questioning, and although she recalls
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the morning much like Holly does, one important detail doesn't
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quite align.
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Holly was fading the baby and the little girl's plan
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and my little hisster come in.
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We stood there talking well, Holly was holding the baby
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and then started crying a little bit. Just then my
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sister talked and we went out the yard and loaded
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up their conditioners. We stood out there docked out there.
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In the car, you know.
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But then Holly comes out now the house, said that
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she had to call the am once night, and so
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why she said, Well, the baby's not drawing.
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The baby all right. So the only person that was
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inside the house was Holly at that time, and you
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and her sister were outside, right.
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Though Holly claimed Doretta and Doreen were with her in
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the living room, Doretta's account puts the two of them outside,
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leaving Holly alone with the baby before placing her in
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the crib. Still, Doretta remains unconvinced that Cora was ever
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in the crib at all.
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I'm thinking that she puts.
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The baby on the bed on the baby fellas, Okay,
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I'm thinking, do you think that that's what happened him?
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Thank you very much?
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Okay, Women she thinks that, well, because she don't.
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She hasn't far up because this week she has never
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put that baby and that clib, She's always put it in.
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On the ben.
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Despite this unusual change and routine, Holly stands firm that
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the baby was in the crib before then, she had
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otherwise been in her arms or Doretta's But.
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The only time she was alone with the baby is
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whenever I was in the kitchen for maybe three for.
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Minutes, Doretta Coretta like, she a whole maybe for me
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by herself wheneverfore was she out with the baby only couch?
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Said on the couch, did she tell you something happened
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while she no?
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And I after and she said no, not that I
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can recall that.
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I mean, she does have and she's showing some signs
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of like dementia and so, but I would feel like
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if it's.
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Something serious, or I would have heard as up of
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something if she dropped her or hit her, which you know,
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I don't think she would do that.
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Now in your kitchen, you said, Gretta was in the
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living room, in which casey from the kitchen to the
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living room or is there a there's a long okay,
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So that's the only time that that Quorra was out
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of your side by the side out with you, not
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anything like that.
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Before addressing this with Coretta, the detective explains the seriousness
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of the situation and delivers a shocking update about Chorus injuries.
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You can see it's it's a little red right there.
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You're starting to swell right. You can see the difference
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where the swelling start is read right, Yeah, by her temple. Yeah,
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so okay. There's also she also has some broken ribs. Yes, okay.
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So that's why it's important for me to find out
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what what happened or how how everything happened. At any
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point in time, were you left by yourself with uh
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with corals the little baby?
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Yes?
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Yes, were you like left by yourself where you were
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messing with her? That was all in the kitchen at
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all times, I mean in the living room okay, with elements.
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So at no point in time were you by yourself? Okay. Now,
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she also mentioned that you had the offsets of dementia.
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That's what she mentioned. Is that true? No, that's not true.
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No, I.
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Taken medicine, but I don't have demnia.
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And I'm like, no, I might forget a little bit.
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But I was out fine, okay. And when she went
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to go make a bottle for in the kitchen, she
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said that there's a wall in the kitchen that you
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can't see into the living room, and that you were
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left by yourself with the baby, and that that's the
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only time that she that she did not have any
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eyes on the baby. Sir. No, sir, that is not true, sir.
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She did not I did not be in that with
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that baby by my fild.
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With conflicting stories from the two women, investigators questioned to
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Rette sister Doreen. Her statement validates one of their stories,
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but ribs an entirely new hole in another.
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We just got up and right outside and was taking
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air conditions.
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And stayed inside, and Holly came out. She said, Uh,
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something's wrong with the baby's breathing.
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Can you come a check.
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So we ran into the house.
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The baby was in the carrier and uh, what.
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Do you mean?
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Said?
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She just stopped breathing right.
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And so she said, I've called the mother and the angulis,
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you know. And so we still and waiting for the ambulus.
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I stayed in the house of Ethne girl and my.
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Sister and Holly went out doing this.
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But ask her, I don't know what happened, Oka, you know,
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I didn't hear nothing, drop all anything.
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Her account confirms that she and Doretta were both outside
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placing Holly alone with baby Cora inside the house, but
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her claimed that the baby was found in the car
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seat rather than the crib raises new questions.
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Did she say why she had the baby in the
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car seat?
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No, she did say I was fixing to go some
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diapers or something, and she said.
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To the ambulance.
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And this creates a gap in Holly's account. Was she
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putting the baby down for a nap as she claimed,
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or preparing to leave with her. Detectives spoke to Holly's husband, Sam,
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who showed them Facebook messages from Holly that morning. She'd
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been planning to bring him a drink at work, writing
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It'll be a minute feeding the baby shortly after, she
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dialed nine one one after the ambulance left, Sam says
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she met him in person and told them the baby
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had a seizure before returning to the house where police
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were waiting to speak with her. She then sent messages
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saying I'm scared our babies will be taken away. I
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didn't do anything. I don't abuse children. She also snapped
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a photo of one of the officers, writing FML, an
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abbreviation which commonly means my life.
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Why is she worried about her kids getting taken away?
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Or your kids taken away? Just because, like I told her,
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if the baby had a seizure, they're going to be
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able to prove it. It's an injury. It's not a seasure.
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It's it's a seizure that was caused by an injury.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Speaking once more with Deretta, the detective wonders if Holly
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is telling the truth or possibly shifting the blame.
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She's lying about you being alone with her today?
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Absolutely absolutely, because I had my sister there.
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And then do.
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You have any idea why she's trying to say that
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you were by herself or why she's trying to blame
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on you, I don't know.
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And that's what exactly what my sister said that you did,
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I mean my daughter say she said, Mama, she said
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she heard that baby, and you bet she's going to
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try to skip the blame on to you.
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Want to get kids.
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And I walked him out and around.
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And then she left you.
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Okay, she supposed she wants she wants supposed to.
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She asked her to hang type.
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Polly is found walking four blocks away from the police station,
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and they bring her back to confront her with everything
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they've uncovered.
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Here's the I just need you to tell me the
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truth so that I can try to tell the doctors
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down there.
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What happened.
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Okay, there's certain things that you kind of lied to
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me about that were verified by other people. Okay. The
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first thing is you didn't tell me that you had
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the baby in the car seat, that you were going
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to take the baby with you to go buy some
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diapers at the same time that you were going to
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take a drink or supposed to take a drink to Sam. Right,
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and during that time, you were the only one that
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was inside the house by yourself with the baby. You
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told me that Veren and Doretta were both in the
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house at that time whenever the baby started crying and
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you went in there and freaked out, and then they
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went outside. Okay, they're both telling me different. Your brother
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in law got really offended and whenever.
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I asked her about her dementia and got really upset
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about it. That is very easily verifiable, which she said,
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you know, you can contact my doctor.
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Here's his name, blah blah blah.
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Here's the information that it's really easily be very verifiable.
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She does have dementia.
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Right, Okay, I just need you to be straight with me,
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and now I feel like you are. If you're gonna
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keep playing these games, you're just gonna make it worse
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on yourself instead of just being honest with me. That's
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all I'm asking you to do. Okay, I'm not trying
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to take your kids.
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I don't care.
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About taking your kids. I care about finding out what
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happened and finding out the truth. That's all I'm after
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is the truth. But you keep saying, okay, but you
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don't want to tell me the truth about what happened.
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I thought that I don't want to and I'm just
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trying to remember because I'm all frazzled because of this
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is crazy, that's all.
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He continues to withhold the truth. Another detective steps in
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and takes a more direct approach.
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The road established the timeline. He was the only one
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with the kid. Okay, Okay, this kid has very bad injuries,
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Okay to its end, Okay, something that only could have
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happened whenever the kid was with you today. Okay. And
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I'm going to give you the opportunity to let not
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look like this monster sitting here that's not telling the truth,
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and be a compassionate young woman and tell us what
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happened to this child. Okay. If not, then I'm going
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to make you out to be the monster that you are,
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the babies and surgery and may die. Do you want
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to get a killer or you want remorseful, then tell
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me what happened to that child. This is your opportunity.
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I'm listening only.
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So I put her down for her nap. That was true.
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That was it was in her crib.
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On the way back, Audrey had a toy on the
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floor and I accidentally tripped.
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You should be for life. I was scared, but I
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also needed you to You had all the opportunity to
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cry before.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm not very remorseful right now because you sat here
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and lied. Okay, but I also want you to tell
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the entire story where he tripped. What hit her head?
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Because something hit her head very badly. She has skull
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fractures across the whole back of her head. Okay, so
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start over and tell me what happened. If you tripped,
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you tell me what what she hit, what you did afterwards, everything.
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Okay.
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So I was walking, like I said, from the crib,
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which is in the my bedroom, like out of the
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hallway into the living room. There was a big like
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my son's big monster truck right there, and I fell over.
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And like I like.
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Tripped and she fell out of my hands and just
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hit the floor. Like I don't I don't remember anything
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being underneath her head.
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The bruising is I wouldn't say cylindrical, but long, okay,
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like edge of the crib, edge of the wall, edge
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of this is he's being serious about I can. I
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can give the doctor's information about what happened.
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I'm just trying to remember what if, like there was
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anything under her head. All I know is I tripped
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and fell, and yeah, her head hit The trailer of
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the part was like this walk and then what happened?
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And then I picked her up and called ninety one.
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Does that whenever she had the stiff and had a
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seizure life, whenever she hit her head.
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Yes, and her eyes were like doing bad and breaking up.
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I didn't need to fall.
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So your first in classion of having an accident with
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a two ninnth old child was to save yourself and
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not tell somebody what happened.
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I was just skim.
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The detective leaves the room to provide an update, while
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the other remains with Holly, still questioning how the baby
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could have landed on the same toy Holly tripped over.
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He allows her to demonstrate the fall.
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I was walking with him like this, and I guess
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I tripped and fell because I remember my foot going
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like this and then I get like, I guess my
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foot kicked it.
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And then when she fell, she felt like this on it.
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So man, when when she fell? How did you did
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you drop her? Did you go down with her? Like? How?
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How does that like show me exactly like how it went?
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Okay, I'm trying to Okay, So I tripped, my foot
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had her and then I guess it ticked that.
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So then I fell and I guess I let go
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of her because that's when she hit her.
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Head like that.
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Like I guess this would be because I gots her head.
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Did you drop her from up top all the way
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or what?
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I think? I had her like mid and then I
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lost yeah, then I.
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Lost my ballant then you dropped her going yeah, and
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so did you drop her completely?
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Okay? So she hit the floor, I think she like.
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I think she hit the back of the toy like
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on the trailer part. I'll just show you. It's a
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big like to my like plastic truck.
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I wish I had a picture of it, but yeah, right,
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but I didn't like purposely hurt her or you know,
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like purposely hit her on the floor.
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Where is it?
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Huh, it's just the way in the living room.
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Did you move it? Yeah, we moved in Okay, we I.
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Mean I did.
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Yeah, you said we sorry?
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No, no, no, no, it was me.
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00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:00.519
The plastic truck and trailer was found at the home,
472
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.920
though investigators noted that dust particles were present on top
473
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.799
of the toy and it didn't appear to have been disturbed.
474
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:12.559
I feel like you're all right, and I don't like it. Okay.
475
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.599
Have I treated you like you're an idiot? Have I
476
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:17.599
insulted you in any which way by treating you like
477
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.119
you're an idiot? Don't do the same thing to me. Okay,
478
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.519
that's exactly what you're doing.
479
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:22.519
And I don't like it.
480
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.079
Understand, what are they going to find? What's different from
481
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what you have told me? So and really diggy today.
482
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:45.400
So I told twice today, but the first time was
483
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.920
this morning before this accident. And she did not hit
484
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.920
her head. So you felt twice with her in your arm.
485
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.839
Yes.
486
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And I usually don't drink coffee, and I drink like
487
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:04.559
two cups of coffee because I was tired, and I've
488
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:10.079
been like really shaky today and dizzy. So say, here's
489
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.319
the couch. So here's the couch.
490
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And like I said, I laid I lay her like
491
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on the couch and a kneel, right.
492
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.079
So, and after I changed her diaper and her clothes
493
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:27.039
to the pink umsie which the black pants, I picked
494
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.039
her up and I went to go throw the diaper
495
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in the trash in the kitchen, and I was in
496
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.920
my socks and I just kind of lost my balance.
497
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.759
I was kind of like I got really really dizzy,
498
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.119
and I like and this time I had her like
499
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:46.559
cradled and I kind of just fell like straight down
500
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:49.319
and I sat there for a minute and I like
501
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.400
saw stars and then I got up, so I like
502
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.480
clinched onto her so she didn't fall, she didn't hit
503
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.680
her head. But I just wanted to tell you that
504
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.880
because but that's not really impertinent to like her head injury.
505
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.319
She's got two skull pressures on all sides of that.
506
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.079
Okay, okay, yes, if you get hit on.
507
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.519
This side, you're not gonna have a skull precture on
508
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:22.880
the side. You understand again, stop understand. I I don't
509
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:24.039
know why you keep doing that.
510
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.759
The detective asked Holly to demonstrate again exactly how the
511
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.039
baby fell, not once but twice.
512
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.880
Like you're going to drop this when she dropped drop it, yeah, okay,
513
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:35.839
I just didn't know drop it all right.
514
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.519
My feelings any okay.
515
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.759
So like I had her and I tripped and she
516
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:40.920
fell like right here.
517
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.079
Like that, and the truck, the truck, okay. Then second
518
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:46.200
time okay.
519
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.119
So I was on my side and I think at
520
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.960
that time she hit like the on the right side,
521
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.480
like I mean, it looked like she fell just straight down,
522
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.319
not really any particular her side. So that's where I'm
523
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.480
kind of confused to why she has too you know.
524
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.279
Yeah, okay, so you go to pick her up.
525
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.240
Yeah, So I kind of did this and I grabbed
526
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:21.359
her like this, and I did this, and I got like,
527
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.079
I don't know how you would say that, like off
528
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.359
balance okay, and just dropped her.
529
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:40.200
Hold drop her like that a second time, dropping from
530
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:41.559
even how tall are you?
531
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:43.960
Like five six and a half five six and a
532
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.359
half five feet six.
533
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.960
Inches, It's not going to cause his skull fracture to happen.
534
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.359
It takes a tremendous amount of force. She either had
535
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.960
to hit something that's super hard, okay with this, or
536
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:05.079
you had to grab her be so frustrated and mad that.
537
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:05.799
You slammed her.
538
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.279
You understand, you can't change the laws of physics.
539
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.799
As much as you want.
540
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.799
To, you can't, okay, Just like you can't change the
541
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.359
gravitational pool on how fast somebody falls. You cannot change that.
542
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:21.400
Okay.
543
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.640
Well you're telling me about just dropping her and her
544
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.079
falling down is not going to cause that amount of damage.
545
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.079
Well, I just wanted to tell you what the absolute.
546
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.640
So you dropped her about halfway down, about three feet
547
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.680
off the ground when you tripped, and she hit the
548
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.599
first The first times the thing, you picked her up,
549
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.559
and the last time you're fully up. He said, you
550
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.319
dropped her again, And that's what happened.
551
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.599
Yes, and that's not going to change no what Holly
552
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.240
now committed to her revised story, Investigators turned their attention
553
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.799
to why she made an attempt to cover up the truth.
554
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.039
Why did you tell anybody to begin with?
555
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.920
Because I was scared to get locked up?
556
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:02.599
But here I am.
557
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:11.880
Accidents happen all the time when you move heard up,
558
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.440
look at me. I need you to stop crying right now, okay,
559
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.519
because you've cried so many different times for so many
560
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.640
different reasons that I don't even know if it's the
561
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.880
truth right now, that you're actually feeling remorseful.
562
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.759
I am, you get what I'm saying, Like, I don't
563
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.000
even know, Like how were you even able to look
564
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.240
at that mother and just so cold not feel terrible
565
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:39.079
and remorseful for.
566
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:39.559
What you did?
567
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.279
Like I cried the whole way from my house to
568
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.119
meeting her at the hospital, and her and her husband
569
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.240
were already like bawling. I didn't want to add to that.
570
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.440
Though Holly repeatedly claimed she was crying over the incident,
571
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.319
Cora's grandmother said that when she arrived to pick up
572
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.039
the four year old, it was Doretta who was in tears,
573
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.720
while Holly appeared completely straight faced.
574
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.119
I mean, I didn't feel like you guys are thinking
575
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.440
I'm going to just throw this baby on.
576
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.359
Honestly, I think that's what you did. I think that's
577
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.119
exactly what you did, and you just don't want to
578
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.880
say it because you're afraid of any consequences or whatever.
579
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.039
But I honestly think.
580
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.680
That's what it is.
581
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.039
What it is, I think your anxiety, she was cranky.
582
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.880
It's not your baby. You don't know what it's normal
583
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:28.920
things are. Your anxiety kicked in and before you knew it,
584
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.319
you were doing something that that you're like, holy craft,
585
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.359
that's not what I meant to do. I think that's
586
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.880
what happened, And I hate that you think that you're
587
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.480
the one that's gonna have to explain it to them,
588
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.440
And you're the one's gonna have to explain why A
589
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.799
and B doing it up to see the doctor at
590
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.319
the children's hospital is going to tell us exactly what
591
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.640
happened and how it happened and how hard that the
592
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:56.119
baby's skull was hit. Okay, babies and young children, they
593
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.200
are the hardest ones to break bones because they're not
594
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.720
set like yours or mine. Their bones are still growing.
595
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.400
They're really really flexible. You really have to do something
596
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.119
with a lot of force to be able to break
597
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.039
their bones. You can't change that, and you can't hide.
598
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.519
That, Like, I don't know what you're wanting me to do.
599
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.799
I'm not gonna lie and say I just dropped her
600
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.559
because I'm mad.
601
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:23.799
I would never do that on purpose ever, Like, yes,
602
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.400
I have anxiety, Yes I have depression, I have all
603
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.359
this stuff. I'm on meds for it and trying does
604
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.359
not bother me. Like my kids whine all the time.
605
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.839
I don't hit them, and I don't abuse them.
606
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:40.480
I'm not an abuser. So I mean, I don't know
607
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.720
what you want me to tell you. I didn't purposely
608
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.759
throw her or purposely drop her. Like I'm already locked up.
609
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.680
There's no point in lying to you, or lying to
610
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.319
the judge or whoever else I talk to. There's no point.
611
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.599
But I don't know why you're putting in Joel when
612
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.160
I didn't do it on purpose.
613
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.759
You lied several times about why you did what you did.
614
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.960
Because I didn't want my cats to be taken away,
615
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.240
and now they are.
616
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.920
Though she maintains this new version of events is the
617
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.880
honest truth, a shocking revelation will soon shed an entirely
618
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.200
new light on the case. For now, she's arrested and
619
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.559
booked into the k County Detention Center. Five days later,
620
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.559
officers present a warrant to search her phone and face
621
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:34.559
a new challenge.
622
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.319
The password to your Oh gosh, she would ask me that.
623
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.599
I, like I have don't have it in my hands, so.
624
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:45.519
I'm trying to remember.
625
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.000
Sorry, it's kind of inappropriate, Okay, Okay, So it's capital say.
626
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:52.559
T A Y.
627
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:54.680
T H E.
628
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.319
F U C K O U T twenty nine and
629
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.000
then four exclamation points.
630
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.480
Okay, so your password is a number on your phone
631
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.839
because it pops up with a number. So does it
632
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.519
also allow you to do letters? Because your password is
633
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.440
just like any other phone? Yeah, so like whenever you
634
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:20.400
click on the phone.
635
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:20.839
Yeah.
636
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.319
Still, Holly insists that her phone doesn't have a numeric
637
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.680
password and never supplies one. Investigators later obtained the correct
638
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.920
pin code from her husband Sam. They discovered that while
639
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.440
at the crime scene, Holly made several Internet searches, including
640
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.039
can a seizure cause a brain bleed? Will a two
641
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.160
month old survive a brain bleed? And what happens if
642
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.359
a baby has a fractured skull? But it's what Duretta
643
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.319
told investigators during her interview that truly left them stunned.
644
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.960
Did she tell you before the same situation before it
645
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.400
has happened.
646
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.480
No, she didn't mention that, So what's happened before?
647
00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:58.880
Should I say anything?
648
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.480
Doretta has? But after the detective pointed out that Holly
649
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.480
tried placing the blame on her, she started to share
650
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.839
what she knew, probably about.
651
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.440
She had three other kids.
652
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.400
She was married, was a babysit for this lady, and
653
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.079
the lady brought the baby over and Holly's husband was
654
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.679
there too, so when the baby came, she brought the
655
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.039
baby over that she put the car seat down on
656
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.760
the couch and they had the blanket over. I don't know,
657
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.679
I forget this little boy little girl over, Remember, she said.
658
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.960
The mom told her she don't have to take the
659
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.320
blanket off because she sleeps all the time. Well, Holly
660
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.840
took it off and there's a bump on the baby's head.
661
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.760
They called the NamUs, took the baby to the hospital.
662
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:40.039
The baby died.
663
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.000
The case, which occurred in Oklahoma City in twenty eighteen,
664
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.199
bears striking similarities that are impossible to ignore. She'd met
665
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.960
the mom on Facebook and began babysitting her three week
666
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.400
old infant. Three days later, Holly reported there was something
667
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.400
wrong with the baby. She was rushed to the hospital,
668
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.280
where it was discovered the baby had multiple skull frackures
669
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.320
and bleeding in the brain, resulting in her death. However,
670
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.159
according to news articles at the time, police were unable
671
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.920
to prove the injury happened under Holly's care, and no
672
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.880
charges wherever filed. Now, in a case that echoes the past,
673
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.639
baby Cora is fighting to stay alive, still searching for answers.
674
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.360
Investigators follow up with Deretta and Sam, hoping Holly may
675
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.960
have shared the truth with one of them.
676
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:32.920
Cora's injuries are not plausible from what she told us, Okay,
677
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:40.880
on pot on any of it, Yes, yes, dropping the baby,
678
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.920
the baby being hit, all that stuff, that's that's not
679
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.960
a possibility. How she's telling me that it occurred is
680
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.840
not a possibility. Okay, Now, I know whenever I spoke
681
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.119
to you, you knew about the incident that happened in
682
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.320
Oklahoma City. Okay, you didn't bring that up to me.
683
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.559
So that's why I'm here. She told you anything about that?
684
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.480
How she told you anything about what happened to Oklahoma City?
685
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:06.880
Because I'll be honest with you. The Oklahoma City thing
686
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.480
met somebody on Facebook was babysitting baby, was in a
687
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:21.599
car seat, head trauma, skull fractures, frame belief. Did you
688
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.400
question her about this after this incident? About this one, yes,
689
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.880
like about the Oklahoma City in this because I mean
690
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:28.480
they're mirrored.
691
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.159
Like I said, I didn't find out about the truck
692
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.679
until yesterday at the meeting, and then it clicked and
693
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:34.400
you guys took it.
694
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.639
Yeah, I didn't know story truck. I mean it was
695
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.800
there that morning, and I don't know what the little
696
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.400
girls told you. But she was out over her playing,
697
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.639
So I don't know if they questioned her, if she
698
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.639
mentioned about something.
699
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:55.119
I don't know, I know, big question.
700
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.199
According to Cora's grandmother, or she asked the four year
701
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.480
old if her sister had fallen. The girl initially said no,
702
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.840
but later stated the couch hit baby sister.
703
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:15.320
So all she's told you is just that she went
704
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.880
into the room, picked up the baby, came back out,
705
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:25.239
tripped over the truck, and dropped the baby day put
706
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.000
in the car seat.
707
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:27.079
Just one time.
708
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.360
Yeah, all she said was one time. There's one message
709
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.079
on there that I asked about it, and she wanted
710
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:36.880
to know what I wanted to know, and I told
711
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.480
her I want to know the truth. She said that
712
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.920
she didn't drop the baby twice and that you misunderstood
713
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:43.559
her or something.
714
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.960
No, I didn't. She told me that I did not
715
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:52.800
misunderstand her. She flat out told me I dropped the
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baby twice. If there's anything at all that she has
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told you, where she's telling you what happened to that
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to Kora. You you need to let us know.
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I definitely will.
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You need to let us know if she tells you
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anything about what happened in Oklahoma City, or or if
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you know anything about what happened in Oklahoma City, you
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need to let us know. Because I'm telling you right
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now from experience Oklahoma City, and this is mirrored. It's mirrored.
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Still. Sam insists that he was lied to and has
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no new information. In uncovered Facebook conversations with his brother,
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Sam expressed frustration over being lied to by Holly, adding
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that he needs to cut ties and contact for the
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sake of his kids. Holly meanwhile continued to send him
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text from the jail's messaging system, begging him not to
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leave her. Whatever the truth about Cora may be, it
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isn't revealed in any of the messages.
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I just don't know what could happen.
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From what you should.
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I don't think it was unvented. I really think that
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it's not from a fall. I couldn't tell you only
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only she would be able to answer that question. But
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it's not from It's not how she's telling us that
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it happened.
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Hally's refusal to give a clear account has left the
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truth about what happened to Cora a mystery, but against
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all odds, the infant survived. Cora's mother posted this video
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update to Facebook on August twenty ninth, twenty twenty three.
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Yes missed.
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So as a fast from the hospital to Jay Yay.
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We're so excited we get to the art.
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While baby Cora suffers from ongoing health complications, she continues
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to persevere and celebrated her second birthday in April of
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twenty twenty five. Mackenzie chronicles her ongoing recovery and continues
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to provide updates on her Facebook page, Cora's Journey. Twenty
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six year old Holly Marie Shephard was formally charged with
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filanny child abuse, placed on a five hundred thousand dollars bond,
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and ordered no contact with miners. She didn't post bond
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and remained in custody, receiving only a temporary medical release
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due to her being pregnant, with a court order requiring
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her to report back to jail immediately after hospital discharge.
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The current placement and care of Holly's infant are unknown.
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On November twenty six, twenty twenty four, Holly entered a
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plea of no contest in Chorus case. She was sentenced
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to life in prison, with eligibility for parole after twenty
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five years. In twenty twenty five, while serving her life sentence,
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Holly was separately charged with first degree murder in connection
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to the twenty eighteen death of a three week old infant,
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a development that offered hope for resolution in the case.
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After seven years, she entered a plea of not guilty,
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and the case is still ongoing, with a hearing scheduled
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for October twenty twenty five. If you'd like to see
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