ABOUT THIS EPISODE
You can lose weight and still move in the wrong direction if you’re losing muscle. I’m Dr. Nicole Norris, and I’m sharing how I think about body composition in midlife, why I track lean mass and body fat (not just the scale), and how my “HENS” rule shapes every plan: hormone optimization, exercise, good nutrition, healthy sleep patterns, and stress management.
From there, I walk through peptides that can support metabolism and physique changes, especially growth hormone releasing hormone analogs guided by IGF-1 labs. We talk benefits people actually notice like better recovery, deeper sleep, improved gym performance, and support for visceral fat and insulin resistance, plus the side effects and red flags that require real medical oversight. I also break down how I choose between sermorelin, CJC-1295 plus ipamorelin, and tesamorelin, including dosing timing, cycling, and why “more” is not always safer.
We also get into newer longevity conversations, including OS-01 by OneSkin and what mTOR signaling, inflammation, and skin elasticity have to do with aging well, along with MOTS-C for mitochondrial function, metabolism, and brain support, including the practical detail that folate and homocysteine monitoring matter. If you’re curious about peptides but want the safest path, follow the show, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the science-forward approach to midlife health.
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Welcome to the Dr.
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50 Something Podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Nicole Norris.
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Whether you are in the midst of midlife or you want to prevent the physical and mental signs of aging that occur in midlife, this is the podcast for you.
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This is a show where I share my knowledge gleaned in family practice, preventative medicine, and aesthetic medicine to shed light on aging, or better yet, how not to feel or look like you are aging.
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We should be taking an active role in how we age from an early age.
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We should not settle with growing old gracefully or letting nature take its course.
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How we age directly affects our confidence, which impacts all of our relationships with those around us.
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The length of time in our lives that we feel really good in terms of energy, aches and pains, and thought clarity has a definite impact on the mark we can leave on this world.
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My wish for my listeners is to always be mistaken for being 50-something or less in mind, action, and appearance.
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Let's go.
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I missed you all.
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I can see some of you shaking your heads.
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I had you worried.
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You wondered if I fell off the face of the earth.
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Nope.
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I was just busy having fun.
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Summer is just so fun.
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There is always something to do outside, and I am like a chicken when it stays light later.
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For me and my chickens, it is just so hard not to enjoy every minute of the outdoors until it gets almost dark.
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Did you know that chickens will not go in their coop until their natural instinct of fear tells them to?
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Yes, chickens are actually quite chicken.
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The reason is that chickens have very poor night vision.
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Like little old lady driving at night blindness.
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They will actually freeze in place when the sun goes down because they cannot see where they are going.
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Their circadian rhythms are affected by changes in the light outside, and when the light starts to fade, this triggers a strong urge to find a high, safe spot huddled with their chicken friends to freeze in place from potential predators.
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So me staying outside, having fun on long summer evenings, on the positive side is fresh air, exercise, and bonding with my family, dogs, and chickens.
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On the negative side is no podcast writing and eating dinner later and getting to bed later than I would like.
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So I am very grateful that you are still listening to my podcast after that little hiatus.
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In this episode, I will try to make it up to you for waiting patiently for my next podcast.
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You are going to absolutely love learning about peptides that affect your metabolism and therefore your body composition.
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Body composition is losing body fat and gaining muscle.
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These are the peptides that I like to use to improve my patients' results when they're on GLP1s for fat loss, or in some cases, I use these peptides instead of GLP1s for fat loss.
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GLP1s are definitely the most famous peptides for changing body composition.
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However, I'm not going to talk about them specifically in this podcast.
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They may deserve their own podcast down the road.
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I actually have thought to myself more than once that a little cocktail of hormone optimization, a whisper of GLP1, and a splash of growth hormone peptide may cure just about anything that ails you.
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Well, probably not anything, but this combo sure can transform your body composition, especially after 30.
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Think about it.
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Hormones make it possible for you to lose fat and build muscle.
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GLP1s make you not think about food, eat less, and decrease inflammation.
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And then growth hormone peptides help you build muscle, which most people lose on GLP1s.
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In our office, we do in-body body composition measurements at all of our weight loss, hormone, and peptide visits.
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Patients on this trifecta of optimal hormones, a whisper of GLP1, and a cycling of a peptide that increases their natural growth hormone, they have the most significant transformations occur right in front of their eyes.
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Our in-body device Bluetooth your body composition to an app on your phone.
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So this shows you trends in your percentage body fat and your lean muscle mass.
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We use this way more than a scale to determine health success.
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If patients are losing muscle instead of fat when they're on a GLP 1, it is typically because they are not following the HENS rules.
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As providers, we have to have a responsible conversation with these patients that if they're losing too much muscle mass, a GLP 1 may be hurting them, not helping them.
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Of course, even though it has been a little while since my last podcast, I am sure you all remember the hens rule that I have drilled in your heads.
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None of these glorious peptides will do much for you unless you are following my hens rule.
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For those of you who are in need of some memory and brain optimization peptides, hens stands for hormone optimization, exercise, good nutrition, healthy sleep patterns, and stress management.
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I think maybe I'll talk about optimizing brain function in one of my next podcasts.
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I'm headed to Nashville soon for a three-day course on that very subject.
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Let's begin with peptides that stimulate your body to secrete growth hormone.
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Growth hormone is a hormone that we all have, of course, in order to grow as a child.
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The levels are normally high while we are growing and then they level off in our 30s.
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After that, they naturally start declining gradually with age, just like all of our other hormones.
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But there are many other factors that can lower growth hormone levels more than age itself.
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High levels of visceral fat.
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That's the fat we can't pinch, but it hides on our organs and can lower growth hormone.
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Physical and emotional stress lowers growth hormone.
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Factors that can increase growth hormone naturally include high-intensity interval training, resistance training, good sleep, short-term fasting, and having adequate levels of T3, which is our active thyroid metabolite that rarely gets measured, but does also decline with age.
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I check growth hormone levels in my patients over 30.
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The lab test that you want to follow to monitor your growth hormone is called IGF1.
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If this is low, I typically use a class of peptides called growth hormone releasing hormone analogs.
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Shortened is GHRH analogs.
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These are peptides that stimulate release of growth hormone from our pituitary gland located in the brain.
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Some common GHRH analogs are surmerelin, CJC1295 ipimerelin, and tesimerelin.
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They are going to be the ones we discuss today, and by and large are the most common.
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They can be used alone or in combination to maximize the amount of growth hormone being released into the body.
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They do this with minimal effects on other hormones, such as ghrelin, which causes hunger, and prolactin, ACTH, and cortisol.
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This is actually why we don't use straight-up growth hormone to replace growth hormone.
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Using straight-up growth hormone, marketed as omnitrope, affects these other hormones adversely and so is actually just limited to use in children who have short stature syndromes or head trauma that affects the pituitary.
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The beneficial effects of GHRH analogs are many.
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And there are some nuances to each of them, which I will touch on.
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So, first of all, this is the laundry list of possible benefits to getting your growth hormone back up to where it should be.
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Okay, here we go.
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Increased muscle mass, improved physical performance, and rightfully so, they are outlawed in some competitive sports.
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Weight loss support by increased metabolism to burn fat, improved recovery from exercise and injury, increased bone density, cardiovascular support, improved sex drive, brain protection, improved cognition and memory.
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They have healing properties for burns and significant soft tissue injury.
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You can have improved energy levels on them.
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They promote deep wave REM sleep.
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They can lower LDL cholesterol, and these are just to name the most common reasons that they are prescribed.
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Possible adverse side effects of GHRH analogs include flushing after receiving a dose, injection site reactions, yes, this is a shot, folks, rash, edema, and joint and muscle pain if the levels are too high.
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So very important when you are on GHRH analogs that you are under the care of a physician and someone is ordering your labs to monitor the level.
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Also, as the name implies, growth hormone may increase cell multiplication.
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And so it makes sense it is not recommended to take GHRH analogs in patients prone to cancer or who have active cancer.
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Patients who want to take growth hormone in my office, we screen to make sure they're up to date with their routine cancer screening tests, like colonoscopies and mammograms.
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And most of my patients have more advanced cancer screening called a gallery early detection test once a year.
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This is an innovative blood test that tests for 40 different types of DNA fragments that are released from the onset of cancer cell multiplication.
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So, what does this mean?
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It means that this test is incredible for picking up early stage one and stage two cancers that most people would not have symptoms of until they were probably stage three or four, when the prognosis, of course, is much poorer.
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So let's talk about the nuances of each growth hormone releasing hormone analog.
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I kind of like to think of them in terms of good, better, best.
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So SURMARELAN is my favorite starter growth hormone releasing hormone analog.
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It is an FDA-approved peptide.
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Yes, it's actually FDA approved.
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It has great safety data and it has been used in kids.
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In one interesting study I read, IgF-1 levels were checked in a group of younger men and older men.
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When the older men on Cermorelin had the exact same IGF-1 levels as the younger man did naturally, the older man on Cermorelin had higher percentage muscle mass and higher strength.
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So there is actually something beneficial about sermelin itself, not just the fact that it stimulates the pituitary to make more growth hormone in terms of muscle production.
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I love to use sermelin on my GLP1 patients who are stalled despite hormone optimization or who are losing too much muscle mass.
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I also like to use sermelin in my longevity patients whose interest lies in staying healthy as long as possible.
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Remember, muscle is the currency of aging.
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My patients who want to maintain the elasticity of their skin love sermorelin, and I have seen improvements in LDL cholesterol when patients are on this peptide.
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So the next one is CJC1295 Ipamerelin.
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This is a combination of two GHRH analogs and so can get IGF-1 levels up a little more robustly.
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I like to use this combination after sermorelin if patients don't get the results I'm expecting, or if IgF1 levels don't improve as much as I would like.
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CJC 1295 Ipamarelin is not FDA approved and it's more expensive than Cermorelin.
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The third one, Tesimarelin, does increase muscle mass, but it is also really impressive for decreasing visceral fat.
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This one also not FDA approved and it is the most pricey.
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It is ideal for my hormone optimized patient on a GLP1, but despite that, he or she still has obvious visceral fat, signs of insulin resistance, or even sleep apnea.
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All of these GHRH analogs ideally are dosed at night at least two hours after you eat, and then you should not eat again at least 30 minutes after dosing.
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One downside is that the vial it comes in needs to be refrigerated, so it's hard to travel with.
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The injection is easy and very tolerable, typically in your belly with a small needle.
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This peptide, like most others, is cycled.
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You take it for approximately two months and then you take a one-month break.
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It is also unique in that most providers recommend dosing five nights of the week and then two nights off.
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The reason for this partial week dosing seems to be to decrease the risk of becoming allergic or having histamine reactions in the form of flushing.
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If you have flushing with a GHRH analog, that is not an allergic reaction and it may or may not happen again.
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If you have actual hives after a GHRH analog injection, this is a true allergic reaction.
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And it is contraindicated to use any GHRH analog ever again.
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Trust me, anyone that has ever been on a GHRH analog does not want to become allergic to it.
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Patients typically feel great.
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They get amazing sleep and better results at the gym.
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Their labs usually reflect lower cholesterol levels and less insulin resistance.
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In our office, we teach you how to give yourself the injection and then have the vial and needle shipped to your home from one of our vetted compounding pharmacies.
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We do not and would never source peptides from a for research use only website.
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Buyer beware, if there is no medical provider prescribing the peptide to you, or it is not shipped to your door with a return label that includes the word pharmacy, the hair on the back of your neck should be raised.
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Please listen to my last episode on what it takes to produce a peptide in an FDA-cleared compounding pharmacy versus some guys in a garage putting them on sale on a research-only website.
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What is going on out there is scary because of all this craze over GLP1s and peptides like these.
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Next up in my armamentarian of body composition change peptides is OSO1.
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OSO1 is a synthetic peptide developed by OneSkin.
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OneSkin is a longevity biotech company started by four female Brazilian scientists specializing in immunology and cellular biology.
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It is not FDA approved for any of the things I use it for, but it can be used topically for skin aging and it is under investigation for systemic benefits via an oral capsule.
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The oral form can influence whole body aging markers in several ways.
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Here's the science.
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One, it increases glucose update, resulting in less fat.
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Two, it downregulates a protein called mTOR.
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MTOR, which stands for mechanistic target of rapamyosin, is a master regulator of protein kinase.
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So mTOR1 is like the brain of our cells.
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MTOR2 controls our cell survival.
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When mTOR gets overactive, we lose muscle and it accelerates our aging.
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Too much mTOR can also fuel proliferation of cancer cells.
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So OSO1 downregulates mTOR, and that is a good thing in terms of increasing muscle mass, improving our body's cellular recycling system, and potentially reducing proliferation of cancer cells.
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It can improve mitochondrial function by reducing oxidative stress, and it can decrease inflammation and help to heal connective tissue.
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Are you saying stop with the science already and just tell me you should take it?
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Okay, I'm getting to that.
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We like to use OSL1 maybe for a patient who is in their, let's say, 60s, who just wants to lose five to ten pounds of fat but needs to gain muscle, not lose muscle.
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I do love GLP1s for many reasons, but it is a fact that at least 30% of the body weight you lose on them is muscle mass.
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OSL1 is also great for anyone who is looking for whole body anti-aging benefits at the cellular level on the inside, and they're looking for skin quality improvements on the outside.
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It may improve the elasticity of the skin in both the oral and topical form.
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And this, my friends, finding something that actually improves crepey skin is the holy grail of medical aesthetics.
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So how do I prescribe OSO1?
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I prescribe 100 milligram capsules from a compounding pharmacy.
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I usually have patients take them one time a day, morning or night, with or without food, for approximately 45 days.
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Then I have them take a 30-day break, and then I have them resume them again for 45 days.
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So you could technically do this in a four-month regimen, one or two times a year.
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The capsule does have to be refrigerated, so you can't travel with them easily.
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The side effects reported so far can be mild GI upset.
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However, there is lack of long-term safety data with oral use.
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The topical form is available online without a prescription and once again only affects the skin.
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You can find it on oneskin.com.
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And you can read about the science there too.
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It's it's worth looking into.
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Lastly, we are going to discuss MOTC in this podcast.
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MOTC, which is spelled M O T S hyphen C, is a peptide created naturally in our mitochondria of our cells.
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Somebody asked me the other day what it stands for.
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Well, I had no idea, but I did Google it.
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It stands for mitochondria open reading frame of the 12S rRNA type C.
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That is a mouthful.
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I think of it as the hostess with the most.
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Matsy is known as a mitochondrial derived peptide that has its positive benefits in the brain.
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It crosses the blood-brain barrier and may decrease neuroinflammation, improve memory, and may prevent neurological aging.
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But it also reduces insulin resistance and helps in regulation of metabolism, which is why it made the cut in this podcast.
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Because it decreases insulin resistance, it is also anti-inflammatory.
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This peptide also plays a role in mitochondrial function and may improve energy production.
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It can reduce obesity and improve physical performance.
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And in middle-aged mice, it has been shown to increase lifespan and physical abilities.
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See?
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Hostus with the most discond.
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It is also an injection, dosed two times a week for four weeks, and then it can be given just once a week.
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I typically recommend cycling this peptide for two months and then taking a month off.
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There are few side effects as long as you are taking enough folate with it, which enough is about 1200 milligrams a day, and that's a lot.
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So if you're not taking enough folate, it's important that your provider is monitoring something called homocysteine levels.
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The reason for this is that MOTC blocks an enzyme in the folate cycle that helps to recycle homocysteine.
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And homocysteine is a normal cellular waste product produced in our bodies.
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So too much homocysteine can cause brain fog and low mood.
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So some people refer to this possible side effect of MOTC as the MOTC hangover effect.
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But once again, it is very preventable with enough folic acid supplementation, which will facilitate clearance of homocysteine.
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Boy, aren't you glad you met this podcast?
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All these peptides are so cool, but they are medications.
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And all medications have possible side effects.
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