Sharkception pt. 2 - The case of Jim Smith and Reginald Holmes.

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Now without further ado, this is the episode of...
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Oh, slush time and here we go!
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Finally!
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Do you want to put something in real quick?
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No, no I'm saying.
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Got over here at 10, we got there.
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Well...
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We had other priorities.
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We had to wait for the package.
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And then a moody boyfriend.
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Uh, oh wow.
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Anyway.
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They're in the laundry room.
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Satisfactory enough for them.
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So we have to see how it plays out.
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And this is part two of Sharkception.
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Womp, womp.
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Mysterious disappearance of Jim Smith.
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What is it, Ms....
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Well, it technically is unsolved.
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Give me a recap, because I don't remember.
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So we last left you.
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Hold on, let me collect my thoughts.
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We last left you with Patty Brady being interrogated by the detectives of the Central Intelligence
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Bureau down in Australia.
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He was being interrogated for the disappearance of his friend Jim Smith.
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Why we think Jim Smith is dead is because his arm showed up as the regurgitated contents
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of a shark's lunch.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Jim Smith, his arm turned out...
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Jim Smith's arm turned up in April.
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He was reported missing around the same time.
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His wife and brother came down to the police station, identified it.
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They threw their police uncovered insurance fraud via insured yachts.
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Sorry, I'm trying to collect my thoughts.
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Speaking of fraud, I mean just look...
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It was rapid.
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Jim and Patty were blackmailing Reginald Holmes and what was his name?
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Albert Stannert.
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The ridiculous sums of money.
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Patty there was a forager.
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He liked to forge checks for hundreds of pounds and then get his ass caught thrown in jail
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or get other people caught in trouble with Johnny Law.
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Jim Smith, he had a penchant for gambling or at least running gambling dens out of his
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billiard rooms and athletic clubs.
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This is all going on during the Depression which hit Australia particularly hard if I
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remember correctly.
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So that's our setting.
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1930s.
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It's hot.
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April.
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You can up fucking forearms that are start murder investigations.
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The cops have Pat Brady as their person of interest and we left you with his recount of
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the events.
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Okie dokie.
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Now the cops have already put together their version of events.
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They've heard from the landlord of the cottage that Pat Brady was renting.
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Bitch.
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Patty in the interrogation room.
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He's going over the events that happened.
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He's like yeah I did go to those thrift shops.
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I did get the mattress.
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I did get the trunk.
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I did get the anchor and replace all of that.
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That's my own kindness.
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I can't tell you what happened to Patty.
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I did this.
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I wanted to make it nicer for you and you're mad at me.
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Yeah.
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Later that day the detectives took Patty out so that he could show that hip so that he
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could show them exactly where he bought the trunk and the mattress.
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They come back to the cottage where they were careful to study his reactions but he showed
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no motion.
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He would then implicate implicate homes with the canvas in the boat shed.
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They would show him where the detectives were conducting.
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They took him out to the boat shed to show them where the detectives were out dragging
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the bay.
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This is real life.
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Yeah.
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They're out dragging the waters.
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Detective Devereux and Detective Devereux McDermott told Patty that they were confident
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they would soon find the trunk.
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But Patty seemed more amused than concerned and remarked that it must have been an expensive
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exercise.
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Well yeah.
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I don't think those things are peace.
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No it's not all the manpower.
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The tools.
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Very expensive.
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With no body and only circumstantial evidence.
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There wasn't much to link Patty to the murder.
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The waters were murky.
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Patty had of course implicated homes in the disappearance.
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But how he was it how but how homes was involved remains unclear.
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Despite this they would charge Patty with the murder.
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This decision being made the detectives scooted over to homes to let him know that Patty had
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been formally charged.
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They were done wasting their time with Patty taking them all over the place and saying
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well I heard homes was getting tired of Jim always coming to him for money and how he
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botched the Pathfinder job.
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A lot of people were after Jim because he said he was going to expose him.
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Right.
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So that's what he's saying.
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That could be exposed you.
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But yeah.
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So they had a motive.
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Patty was there.
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Patty was at the cottage.
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He was the one that rented it.
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He was the one.
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Changing up everything.
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Buying yeah.
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Buying all of the replacements.
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That's nice sir.
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I just thought you I was trying to be nice.
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It busted.
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However they did believe Patty that Holmes was involved.
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It was.
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Well I bust when a pretty girl squeezes me too.
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Anyway.
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The detectives arrested Patty to put pressure on Holmes into revealing exactly how he was
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involved.
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Holmes would still deny having any involvement or even knowing Patty or anything about the
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cottage his wife backed him up.
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But their fear put.
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But their fear was palpable.
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And the seed had been planted.
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All of this is to say that.
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Holmes did eventually request to see Detective Matthews.
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Where he would tell the detective that he was going to make a statement.
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But if he was interrupted he would no longer cooperate.
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He really was like and nobody better ask me a goddamn question.
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Right.
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Sorry.
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This wasn't Holmes.
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I don't make a statement but don't you dare say shit.
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Now that the squeeze was on him.
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Patty began admitting that he was with Jim at Jim.
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Patty began admitting that he was with Jim at the Cecil Hotel on the afternoon of Monday
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April 8th.
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It's always the Cecil Hotel.
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You know.
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It's always there.
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If your name is Cecil you might want to not open a hotel.
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Wait is this not the New York Cecil Hotel.
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No they're in Australia.
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So is it the Cecil in California.
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Yeah that sounds more accurate than what I said.
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I don't know.
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Cut that out.
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Never.
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Anyway.
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We were at Patty saying that he was with Jim at the hotel on April 8th.
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He gave Jim the main role in the events around the cottage and painted himself as not really
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knowing what was going on.
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He says that Jim told him there would be some visitors come up and said that he would send
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and told Jim, excuse me, Jim told Patty send the misses away and told the whole mother
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but I don't know what's happening.
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I don't have a goddamn stroke.
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That's how I feel right now.
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Buffering.
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No.
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It's a YouTube video I can't skip.
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Okay.
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What the fuck are you trying to say?
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Hey, hey, hey, quiet on set.
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Nobody's fucking anybody today.
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All right.
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You guys, quick.
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What I'm trying to say.
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The mascots are going crazy.
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Patty's putting the blame on Jim, right?
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He said Jim told Patty to clear the cottage.
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Tell the misses to go away.
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Get the fuck out of here bitch.
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Be gone for a couple of days.
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Fuck.
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Why are you still here?
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I don't know you.
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I don't know you.
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He told Jim to meet him at the Cisa hotel and wait for a telephone call.
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He said Jim came back to see him and Holmes was up there along with some motherfucker named
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Greg.
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Motherfucker.
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Greg Vaughn.
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Greg Vaughn.
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He was part of the Pathfinder conspiracy.
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I don't remember which part he played, but yeah, that motherfucker.
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He said that they played Domino's with Jim.
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Not Domino's.
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Yeah.
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Gambling on the Domino's with Gordon Dahl and Albert Ward until around 6 p.m. when
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the bar closed.
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He described that they took a boat from the wharf, went around to the cottage where they
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anchored off just inside the sand so that they could walk along the beach.
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A bromance.
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Berry was a bromance written in the stars.
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Patty would go on to describe a cozy scene where they opened bottles of beer, made cups
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of tea, had some cheese and bread, and chatted for about 45 minutes until early evening at
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7 p.m.
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When unexpected visitors showed up knocking on the door.
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He says that they were sitting the gentlemen-
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Don't ever show up.
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Unannounce the motherfucking place.
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Absolutely not.
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Yeah, at least a shout.
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Just don't show up.
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There's also that choice.
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I show up whenever I want to shout.
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Well, that's different, but-
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Anyway.
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Patty says all the gentlemen were sitting just inside the dining room when he heard steps
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come down the hallway calling for Jim.
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Jim got up and said hello.
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Not quite sure what the men were talking with Jim about, but they saw that they were dressed
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in suits.
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Jim left with them to go out into the dark, back to the boat shack.
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He heard someone call out something indecipherable.
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Jim was only gone for about six minutes before he came back.
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He told everybody that he was going to go fishing and that he wouldn't be long and that
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he might end up in town.
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He said that he was going to go see Albert Standard and his friends and that he might
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only- or he might be back tomorrow.
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Some words to that effect.
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I don't know, not a quote.
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Anyway, he said it was going fishing that he'd be back tomorrow.
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He took his coat, put his hat on his head, and went out with the gentlemen.
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Patty would go on to say that Holmes came back to the cottage asking where Jim was the
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next day, but he told him that he'd gone off with Albert Standard and some unrecognizable
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friends.
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He then gave him a check.
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Holmes gave a check Patty made out to him and they surmised that the men would not be
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back and in fact might be meeting Holmes back at his house.
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He offered Patty a ride back into town with him.
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And his cunning way to remove Patty from- this was Patty's cunning excuse to remove
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him from the murder scene to implicate other people in Jim's disappearance.
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Patty would go on to describe the lengthy route that he and Holmes took to get back
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to the city.
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He said that their conversation was cordial and that they were on friendly terms.
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He said Holmes dropped him off near the Redford station where Patty went from pub to pub trying
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to get some after hours beer.
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Finally getting two bottles from someone who knew- someone he knew at the Imperial Hotel
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in Newtown.
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He said that he drank them in the park, walked back to Redford station, caught a train to
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Harzville and then a bus to Cronulla and finally arrived back at the cottage around 11pm.
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This was a way to bury them under their own investigation.
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All of these positive plausible explanations for his meanderings about the city and the
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countryside would go on to say- he would go on to say that he visited the butcher, went
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fishing for another run and then for- went fishing and then for another run into town.
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He would go on to the police station all over the place until 12.30pm where he had a few
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drinks at the pub and then was back at the cottage where he would see Jim Smith sitting
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in one of the carriages at the Art and Arncliffe station which was a train station.
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They had a small conversation about where Jim ended up last night saying that he only
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had a couple of drinks but that he wasn't drunk.
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Patty told everything- Patty told the detectives everything that they already knew.
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Does it not say daddy told them everything?
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I'm pretty sure I meant Patty.
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I think my other writing life trickled into this one.
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Daddy told them everything they already knew.
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Patrick Mananik does.
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He really likes the red and white pieces on his tongue.
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Anyway- I thought I was reading.
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I'm like I'm fine.
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I'm pretty sure that says daddy.
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It does indeed.
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It does indeed.
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These script editors man.
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They just- it's like they're doing this for fucking free.
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What are we not paying them?
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You know it's for the love of it all.
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Newsflash they're not paying.
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Not at all.
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But if you want- there's no way to support this financial.
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Yeah I just work my ass off and then do this in my free time.
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That's fine.
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I do this for the fun of it.
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Fuck it all.
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But so was Patty apparently.
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He was not doing it for the fun of it.
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He was doing it for the hiding of it all.
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Allegedly.
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Allegedly.
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He went to his death bed saying that he had nothing to do with Jim Smith's disappearance.
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That it had all to do with everything the blackmail.
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But I said so he okay.
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We're- back now.
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Patty's telling the cops.
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All about his travels with Jim saying that he met him here and there.
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Jim was alive throughout the week.
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He said that he had last seen Jim buying bread and meat on their way back to the canals on
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their way back to the cottage in Cronulla.
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Patty placed Holmes and Jim at the cottage where Holmes had told him that Jim had gone
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back to the city.
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Holmes would then pull out a check that Patty forged in the name of Frank Carroll for 622
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pounds.
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He then asked him to run errands giving him a list of all the things to buy for the cottage
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such as a mattress and a trunk.
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This is Holmes given Patty the list of errands.
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When Patty asked Holmes what he wanted the mattress for Jim said he said that Jim had
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burnt out one of the mattresses with a cigarette and that there may be a row, a squabble, a
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fight if the landlord saw that so he might as well replace it.
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All right.
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He was trying to be considerate.
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Jimowa.
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He said he might as well be blessed.
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He said he might as well replace it because it was no big deal.
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It was just an accident.
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And when he asked- when Patty asked Holmes what the trunk was for he said that he had
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wanted to put some of the gear from the path finder, some evidence, into the trunk that
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had been left up there for a good while.
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Patty's story was plausible and it implicated Holmes further in the events at the cottage
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and distanced Patty himself from any involvement.
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Every question had a neat and tidy answer leading to reasonable doubt in Patty's murder
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charge.
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With no body, only circumstantial evidence and plausible deniability, Patty was slowly
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becoming a freeman.
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Meanwhile, Holmes is losing his mind.
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The confrontation with the CIB, a year's worth of blackmail and being implicated in the disappearance
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of Jim Smith had him unraveling.
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He met up with his good friend Albert Stannard and they would drink himself and would drink
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himself unconscious.
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The morning after his drunken stupor, he would awake with a renewed determination and find
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himself in a boat chase.
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Oh, what the fuck?
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Crazy.
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You see me running, my boat and they're trying to catch me being rich and dirty.
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Trying to catch me being rich and dirty.
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I'm going to cut that out.
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The police are having their morning meeting, which is interrupted by the news of Holmes's
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excursion of the coast.
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So this is how it went.
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All the days episode of the meeting of the cops.
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We got a boat chase.
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I can only fit the 1926s.
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See over here.
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Your popular playboy, Richie Rich is a person of interest and a murder.
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He's out on his fancy yacht chasing his demons.
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You see that shark throw up that arm?
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Who was on the water?
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He's running away from the shark.
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He said the shark's leg hurt.
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The devil's like a costume arm and a leg.
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You only gave me a half arm.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He was like, that's not enough.
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He was shorted.
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Well, you signed the deal.
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Sir, we can't always please you.
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In fact, go lay down.
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The police dispatched the water unit.
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This show manager chasing the speedboat in a hot pursuit.
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Now Holmes was a speedboat racer and his skills were embedded in his muscle memory.
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Sounds like it's going to be a chase.
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He took them on a wild ride with sharp turns nearly skirting chores and piers and other
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boats for more than four hours.
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This ended with him eventually shutting his boat off and letting Detective Haas approach
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him only to begin the chase once more once his nemesis was repealed.
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You had a bigger than that.
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He would leave the nemesis into open water about two miles before he would return to
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the bay exhausted and spent.
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He was apprehended and joined by his brother while he was restrained, half clothed, his
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matted hair dry with blood, saw a gaping wound in his forehead and gave him some bandages.
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Matthews would later meet back at the water police headquarters where he would take Holmes
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back to the CIB instead of the hospital, which was later revealed to be requested by Holmes
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himself.
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When he got there, he was given dry clothes and given a look over by the police doctor
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who cleaned and treated the wound on his forehead.
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The detectives let him lie down for a bit, hoping that when he woke, he would reveal
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his secrets.
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However, after he sobered up, he was tight lipped.
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After three hours, they transferred him to the Sydney hospital where a 32-caliber lead
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bullet was taken from the center of his forehead.
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Whoa, bro!
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He was like, mm-mm, I'm shot and I don't give a fuck.
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I ain't saying shit, bitch.
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Mm-mm.
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But I am shot.
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Could you, uh...
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Like, if I speak, I'm a dead man.
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If I stay silent, I'm a dead man.
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In a way, we could get someone to look at this hole.
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I had literally the hole in my head right now.
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When detectives informed Patty of the events, hoping to elicit some truth from him, they
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were sadly disappointed as he had a nonchalant demeanor.
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The detectives now under pressure to find concrete evidence and convict somebody in
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a court of law.
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They set out to the hospital where Holmes was at to take the opportunity...
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They took the opportunity to Holmes in the hospital to investigate his house and talk
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to his wife without him there.
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Previously, his wife is distressed and said that her husband had left in the middle of
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the night while she was asleep and she had only been awoken once standard, had called
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saying that Reginald had shot himself and to please send a boat to retrieve him.
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The detectives were surprised that she had stayed home all day instead of trying to
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see him at the hospital, rumor about the social circles that they were great.
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The detectives gave the house a thorough inspection where they found a check for 622 pounds signed
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by Frank Carroll that Patty had mentioned in his statement.
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At least on this, he had been telling the truth.
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You gotta sprinkle it in there in your tall tails.
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I guess you're gonna go on a rodeo, but you gotta see some of the manure.
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You gotta have the rain there.
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After his suicide attempt, Holmes was more cooperative.
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He arrived at the detectives station Friday, May 24th, 1935, accompanied by his lawyer
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and detective Coleman.
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There he would tell the detectives about Patty's threats and the blackmail and what Patty had
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revealed to him involving the murder of Jim Smith.
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Holmes' manner was later described as wistful as though he was somehow disconnected from
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the event.
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Despite his fragile state of mind, the detectives felt that he was telling the truth as much
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of what he told them confirmed.
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The detectives thought he was telling the truth as much of what he told them confirmed
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what they had uncovered in their investigation.
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Excuse me.
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Hi, Dan.
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Confirmation bias?
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Holmes' reports.
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Confirmation bias?
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Holmes revealed Patty had been blackmailing him for many months and was threatening to
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ruin him over what he knew about the Pathfinder Scuttling.
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But after it was Jim Smith disappeared, Patty became truly terrifying.
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Holmes described on how the morning of April 9th, Patty arrived at his house, disheveled,
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agitated, and frantic.
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He told him that he had a fight with Jim and killed him.
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He disposed of the body by taking it in the cottage's tin trunk and dumping it overboard
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outside the port, packing it except for the arm.
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On Patty's return that night, Holmes began to falter and show real signs of fear that
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he could barely recount how he had led to his menacing visitor.
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He recounted how he led his menacing visitor into a study where Patty opened a brown bag
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that he had brought with him to pull out Jim Smith's arm, putting it up by a rope around
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that was tied around the wrist.
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Holmes said that after the horrific display of Patty's ruthlessness, he was terrified
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for himself and his family.
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He gave in to the constant demands for money.
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After four hours of gentle questioning, Holmes was spent and was summoned.
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After four hours of gentle questioning, Holmes was sent and sent Patty away.
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When he left, Holmes called Matthews and asked if he would like the police protection, a
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politely declined, not wanting the gossip of the neighborhood.
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Four hours of being questioned by the police, they asked him if he wanted any police protection.
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The detectives were delighted with what they had heard that they had gained Holmes' trust.
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He said he was willing to testify that Patrick Brady had killed Jim Smith and disposed of
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the body.
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They had made their case.
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Whatever his reasons for cooperating with the police after his suicide attempt, he was
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certainly in their favor where he went against his word and actually gave a statement and
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said that Patty ceaselessly threatened and blackmailed him.
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So the blackmail began when Patty came to his boatyard in August 1934 and said that he needed
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some money to flee to Tasmania because, quote, Smith bastard had squealed over a check and
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put one of my mates in jail.
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Holmes said that when he refused Patty, he was threatened.
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Saying Patty had enough information about him to cripple him with the bank and put Holmes
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in jail over the pathfinder unless he gave him money.
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He told Holmes that he would fix him.
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Patty started asking for money again and again and when he returned from Tasmania, he would
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go in for two pounds here, one pound here, just a little bit at a time.
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Holmes went on to describe the conversation between him and Patty that had later happened
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at his office on April 9th.
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I'm waiting for it.
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There's a shit out of me.
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Oh, there it is again.
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Sometimes it's one, sometimes it's the other.
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It's gonna happen.
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So scared.
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I don't think it turns first through.
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No, I don't see it transferring up there, so that's why I wasn't too concerned.
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It's just a sick heat for us to hear and definitely distract us.
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Yeah, it's getting me.
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Uh.
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The detectives told Patty that Holmes had rolled him over and according to Detective
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Coleman, who was present as Patty read Holmes' statement, he said that his face had become
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pale and he seemed quite distressed.
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They handed him the statement back when he finished and said, that's all right, is that
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all he said to the detectives?
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That's what he said to the detectives.
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Patty's words and his demeanor at the cell door seemed to confirm the truth of Holmes'
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statement and could lend weight to it as evidence.
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With Holmes' statement giving credence to their investigation, they just needed a few
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more things.
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The coroner, Edward Thompson Orem, was particularly interested in this case and had been following
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it since he first saw it in the newspaper.
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As the coroner, it was his job to determine the cause of death and who could have provided
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that death.
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He said that he would begin an inquest May 30th, 1935, where detectives Almond and Coleman
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went to his office giving him all of the facts thus far uncovered.
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Oh no, the inquest actually began June 12th.
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Based on the facts, Coroner Orem couldn't determine the guilt of the individuals but
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by his recommendation he could lead to criminal proceedings.
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Of course, it's hard to figure out how someone was murdered just based off of a forearm.
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What he did is best.
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Well, maybe some decapitation of something.
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I mean, there's definitely an artery that you can lead to blood loss if severed in the
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arm, I believe.
501
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,720
With only two left, with only two left feet, with only two weeks left to find Jim Smith's
502
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,840
body and link him to Patty Brady, the detectives began to subpoena witnesses and gather more
503
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,840
evidence.
504
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,400
The search for the truck began in early May, assisted by the water police.
505
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,680
They would dredge the tidal shoreline and the bay, digging up some holes that were up
506
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
to nine meters in depth.
507
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,440
Here they employed the usual method for looking for bodies, which was dragging with grappling
508
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,040
hooks along the floor of the bay.
509
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:29,080
But the choppy waters made it very difficult to maintain a consistent search pattern.
510
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Even with a 10 foot rake, which was a bunch of grappling hooks attached together.
511
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,880
After a week of useless trawling, they found nothing but an eel and a few fish traps.
512
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:48,800
They even employed a private trawling company, which was a waste of time.
513
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,040
While the police were out there searching the bay, standard often visited homes, or
514
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,600
they would talk about homes as insurance companies discussions.
515
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,080
They would discuss homes as insurance companies not paying out life insurance policies if
516
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840
the holder completes suicide.
517
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:12,840
Homes had five life insurance policies that he was banking on, paying off his debts.
518
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:22,560
I really don't understand life insurance or insurance in general, but okey dokey or the
519
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,560
jokie?
520
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,720
Comment if you want to school us on that.
521
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,000
Oh my God, please.
522
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,800
While detectives gathered their evidence, homes would lie about in his bed until he
523
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,400
set up a meeting between Albert Standard and the boatyard.
524
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,240
Over the next few days, there would be more meetings with Standard and other associates
525
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,040
known as Kinked, or Kinkade, excuse me.
526
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,960
He would tell his wife that he was worried about being bumped off.
527
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160
He was right.
528
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Homes would be found in his car in the early morning hours by Constable Harold Casey, who
529
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,920
was driving along Hickson Road.
530
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:08,600
He stopped his patrol car when he saw a car stalled with headlights on.
531
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:17,200
He approached it to see a man slumped over the steering wheel with his head leaning on
532
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,200
the steering wheel.
533
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,960
He thought he was asleep, so he opened the door to see that blood was pooling on the
534
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,280
man's chest and that his hands were neatly placed on his knees.
535
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,920
He felt for a pulse, but there was none.
536
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:41,920
A mere hour before this, Homes' wife was calling Standard to see if he knew where Homes was.
537
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640
Standard said that he hadn't seen Homes since that afternoon.
538
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,200
She then called her friend Eileen Cobb, who arrived and told Annie to call the police.
539
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:58,960
Just before 1.30 a.m., his wife telephoned the C.I.B. and was connected with the operator.
540
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,480
She has to either talk to Matthews or Almond and have them call her back.
541
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920
After the phone rang, she picked up expecting it to be one of the detectives.
542
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,040
However, it was a reporter from the telegraph newspaper asking her if she knew her husband
543
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240
was involved in a car accident in the city.
544
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,560
She hung up on them distraught.
545
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520
The phone rang back a few seconds later and Cobb answered it.
546
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,080
It was the sergeant at the Phillips Street police station who coldly asked Cobbs to inform
547
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Annie that her husband was found dead and shot in his car.
548
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,440
That's cruel.
549
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,440
Oof.
550
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,440
It was on the phone.
551
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,120
Your husband has been found shot dead in his car.
552
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Over.
553
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,840
Yeah, that's not the nicest way to say that.
554
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,840
No.
555
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Matthews and Almond were phoned right after that giving the news that Holmes was dead.
556
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,160
They quickly dressed making their way down to Hicks and Rhodes where reporters had already
557
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,600
gathered at the crime scene.
558
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,280
They left the forensics team to take their pictures and gather evidence while they made
559
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,880
their way over to Holmes's house.
560
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Annie Holmes and standard's wife Eileen Cobb were and unstandard were there.
561
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,920
They asked the last time any of them had seen Holmes and they told him or standard said
562
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,800
that they hadn't seen him since about two to three in the afternoon.
563
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,920
He gave this alibi unprompted garnering suspicion from the police.
564
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,600
He said that his wife had been in the theater.
565
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:29,960
He and his wife had been in the theater from seven to 1030 and couldn't have been the ones
566
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,960
to shoot Holmes.
567
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960
They were watching him.
568
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,200
They have no alibi.
569
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
With or without Holmes, the inquest still had to begin.
570
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,480
After the court, house witnesses had to enter from the front entrance.
571
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,720
Photos of Jim Smith's widow Gladys caused sensation in the press as she arrived in
572
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,440
morning black with a veil over her head and face.
573
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Accompanying her were her brother-in-law and sister.
574
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,280
It didn't take long for the court to overflow after the doors opened.
575
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Police had to deny many people entrance and locked the doors.
576
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Representing Patty was Clive Everett who was just at the beginnings of his legal career
577
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,240
and had represented Patty in the Laundee and LaMero case where he sued the truth newspaper
578
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:17,920
for defamation in their articles of Jim Smith's murder.
579
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Patty arrived unwashed with a handkerchief over his face, stubble on his cheeks.
580
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,560
Every eye was turned to the shark-armed murderer as Detective McDermott led him to his seat
581
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,320
in front of the press gallery.
582
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:40,000
After proceedings began, he was on his feet protesting and challenging.
583
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,240
After proceedings began, Clive Everett was on his feet protesting and challenging every
584
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:48,400
legality of the whole inquest, stating that there was no body or any substantial part
585
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,000
of a body that could be given post-mortem examination, citing that until this was done,
586
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,040
the coroner had no jurisdiction.
587
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:09,080
And in fact, no one could deduce that Jim was dead just because of an arm.
588
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,840
You can live without an arm.
589
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,840
What?
590
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,680
He said that he, you know, they could have chopped off his arm.
591
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640
He could still be alive somewhere.
592
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Where he is, we're not involved with anything.
593
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,800
We're just saying, okay, so you've got his arm, but where's the rest of the body?
594
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,800
You don't have a body.
595
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,800
He's dead.
596
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Maybe he just left his family.
597
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:40,800
He chopped off his arm to fake his death, right?
598
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Everett and Corna Oren would go through a feisty exchange, which set the tone for Patty's
599
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,200
defense in the court.
600
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:53,640
In the days to come, Gladys Smith was the first witness called.
601
00:35:53,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Every time, how much I see.
602
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520
She caught every eye in the court.
603
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200
They studied her.
604
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,480
One reporter for the Sun recounting that she wore a black, Ford colored costume with a
605
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,720
small hat and a half-tailed black and white gauntlet gloves.
606
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:22,160
She carried a handbag while the reporter for the truth remarked that her face was still
607
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,280
showing the strain and worry of the past few months, but she took her oath in clear,
608
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,800
forthright manner.
609
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:34,240
Sergeant Toul gave Jim Smith's background, and she told them everything she knew about
610
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:40,000
her husband from being born in England, unsure of exactly where, but that he had no property
611
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,320
or investments and that she'd taken out a small life insurance policy without his knowledge.
612
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,880
They had one young son named Raymond.
613
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440
She told them about his drinking and that she volunteered that he would go on drinking
614
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:59,680
bouts for two or three days and then go off for about a month or six weeks.
615
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,720
Even more since last Christmas, he'd scarcely taken any at all.
616
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,560
Toul had her identify her husband through a photograph and then asked her to describe
617
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,920
his relationship with Reginald Holmes and the Pathfinder.
618
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,920
She simply stated that they had been together on a failed business venture that was building
619
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,320
flats and that her husband was employed as a caretaker for the Pathfinder in early 1934.
620
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:28,120
She described how she met Holmes and his wife and Albert Stannard and how she met Mr. Anderson,
621
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,680
who's actually Patty.
622
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:39,160
Toul asked Esther if she could point out Mr. Anderson in the courtroom.
623
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,080
She confirmed that she could and in fact pointed to Patrick Brady.
624
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160
She revealed that she knew him by many names, some such being Mr. Evans, Mr. Anderson, and
625
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,160
of course Mr. Brady.
626
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,360
In the end, she said that when she questioned him about this, she was told to mind her own
627
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,360
business.
628
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,040
If she took offense at this, she took offense at this but it was promptly chastised by the
629
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,840
coroner telling him to sit down.
630
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:27,560
That if he saw this, excuse me, five Everett took offense at this but he was promptly chastised
631
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,360
by the coroner telling him to sit down and that if he saw that this wasn't fit evidence,
632
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,080
that it would not be admitted and that he seemed to be unfamiliar with how these little
633
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,160
legal proceedings took place.
634
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,760
But Everett was right in some manner that he was not presented with any evidence that
635
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,120
was gathered by the detectives.
636
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,160
He was completely in the dark about his client's involvement.
637
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,040
Regardless, Gladys continued on with her testimony with Toul asking her leading questions about
638
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,480
a confrontation between Stanley Watson and her husband near the house in August 1934.
639
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,120
She stated that Watson had shown her husband a gun and said that he ought to blow his brains
640
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,120
out.
641
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,920
He then asked her if her husband had told her any more about Pat Brady.
642
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,920
She revealed that her husband had told her that his name was Brady and that he was a
643
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,720
man that was good with the pen.
644
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,560
That was all she knew.
645
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,040
In another protest, Everett stood up but his efforts were for nothing.
646
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,160
The truth was coming out showing Patty and the terrible light that he was.
647
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Seeing a light shining on the terrible man that he was.
648
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,200
A man of many aliases associated with gunmen and a forager.
649
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:43,720
Sergeant Toul then asked Gladys to describe her husband in the last few months of his
650
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:44,720
life.
651
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,440
She said that he seemed happy, that he hadn't been drinking, and that he had never said
652
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,000
that he feared for his life or that he was going to take his own life.
653
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,880
He was in generally good spirits if not a little despondent about the economic times.
654
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,920
He never had many disagreements and when he did drink he wasn't often quarrelsome.
655
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Never hit her, he just wanted to sing and laugh.
656
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,160
He then presented the letter the detectives had shown Gladys earlier in May where she
657
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,760
reconfirmed that though it was a good forgery it certainly was not her husband's.
658
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:19,280
She said Jim told her how he was supposed to take Mr. Vaughn out on a fishing trip and
659
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,680
about her growing concern when he did not arrive back home.
660
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,320
She said that it was unusual for Jim because during their married life there was not many
661
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,840
times that he would not come back home or at least give her a call or some sort of message
662
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:37,120
to say where he was and what he would return to her.
663
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,200
Gladys said that she recalled a phone message from her mother who had seen a sketch of a
664
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,320
tattoo in the truth newspaper.
665
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,600
Gladys could hardly believe what she was being told but her mother confirmed the awful reality
666
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,160
that the sketch was possibly of her husband's arm.
667
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,120
She recounted how she called her brother-in-law and how they went down to the station to confirm
668
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:04,080
that the forearm was indeed that of Jim Smith.
669
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Sergeant Tool then approached her asking her to look at a photo of the arm with everyone
670
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,280
in the courtroom studying her closely.
671
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,200
She looked at it for what had to offend an endless moment, the only remaining evidence
672
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,000
of her husband's life, a photo of his severed forearm in her lap.
673
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,280
She kept her composure.
674
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,880
She stared down softly saying, and I quote, that is very much like the tattooing on my
675
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,880
husband's arm.
676
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:35,160
The photo was not good enough for Eddett Everett who protested that she needed to go down to
677
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,800
the morgue and identify the arm in person.
678
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,760
The coroner and Sergeant Tool were reluctant to agree but they set a viewing for 10 a.m.
679
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,120
the next morning.
680
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,720
Everett was now given his turn to examine Gladys.
681
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,000
He focused on the relationship between Jim and Patty, getting her to say that they seemed
682
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,320
in all appearances to be on friendly terms.
683
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:03,520
She said that she never saw any trouble between them and that Jim never spoke poorly of him.
684
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Keeping this in mind, he now changed his approach, focusing on how Gladys could be sure that
685
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,040
her husband was dead, simply from a severed arm.
686
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,400
He coerced a confession out of her that the only evidence of her husband's alleged murder
687
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,200
was through the allegations of detectives.
688
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,240
Not bowing to this manipulation, Gladys said in a low-piercing voice, if my husband were
689
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,280
alive, he would have contacted me.
690
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Convincing after lunch, witnesses were then called in chronological order beginning with
691
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,400
the Hobsons and their capture of the Tiger Shark.
692
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,840
They recounted their capture of the Tiger Shark and the subsequent regurgitation of Jim
693
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,760
Smith's alleged forearm.
694
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,880
Next up was Burt Hobson, who regaled the court with the capture of the Tiger Shark and its
695
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,040
debut a week later on Anzac Day, where it would shock the crowd with the gruesome display.
696
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Shark vomited up a rat, pieces of a bird, and pieces of a smaller shark.
697
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,040
Of course, the star of the show, the tattooed arm.
698
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Burt said that he kept the arm to the side of the pool with a stick so that the shark
699
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,800
would not attack it again and confirmed that there could have been no way for anyone else
700
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,480
to have thrown the arm into the tank.
701
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,980
A man from the Anzac Day crowd, who was a proofreader for the city morning herald, Leo
702
00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:19,120
Young was an excellent witness in the testimony.
703
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,320
He was detailed and meticulous.
704
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,520
He said that he had been there watching the shark with a few other people for about 15
705
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,720
minutes when it suddenly took off towards the shallow end of the aquarium.
706
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:33,600
Young said that he thought it was chasing some small fish, so he followed it, describing
707
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,280
how it circled the water and then he noticed a brown scum on the surface.
708
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:49,000
When he saw the arm in the murky water floating upward, he was absolutely sure the arm came
709
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,000
from the shark.
710
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:56,480
He states that it couldn't have been anyone because he was right there.
711
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,160
All of the consecutive witnesses confirmed the same story, that the shark was swimming
712
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,160
in the shallows and regurgitated the arm.
713
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,600
The detectives testified how they came upon the aquarium, interrogated the crowd, and collected
714
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,600
the evidence.
715
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,320
It took possession of the tattooed arm with about four feet of rope attached at the wrist.
716
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,800
This rope was also produced as an exhibit to the court.
717
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,880
When Edward Smith was interviewed, he once again confirmed the arm belonged to his brother,
718
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,720
saying that it was undoubtedly his brother's arm.
719
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:29,680
There was no hesitation or backtracking in any of the witness's testimony or any confirmation
720
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:40,360
of who the arm could have belonged to.
721
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,480
They were all confident in their testimony.
722
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Along with the fingerprint specialist, Detective Constable William Masters of the Roseau Police
723
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,800
told of how he had taken the fingerprints, confirming that they were indeed James Smith
724
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,240
in September 12, 1932.
725
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:04,160
He compared them to Jim Smith's fingerprints that were taken when he was charged with allowing
726
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,880
illegal betting in his athletic club.
727
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Sergeant Tool showed the fingerprints to the court, comparing the ones from the forearm
728
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
to Jim Smith.
729
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Masters responded that those are the fingerprints of a man.
730
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,400
In my own particular handwriting is the final to two witnesses where the fingerprint branch
731
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:35,600
of the CIB detected.
732
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Sergeant Tool showed the court the fingerprints from Jim Smith's records and the ones that
733
00:45:44,040 --> 00:46:03,120
John Lindsay had painstakingly taken from the fingers that were left on the forearm.
734
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:11,080
They even had the skin that was taken marked as an exhibit and given into evidence.
735
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:18,080
After a long day at 4 p.m. coroner or a major in the court until 10 a.m. the following morning.
736
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Okay.
737
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Later that evening, a man went to the Rocks Police Station and reported that he had been
738
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,200
walking down Hickson Street the previous night and heard three sounds that he thought were
739
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,200
shots.
740
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,040
He approached further down the street and saw a man passing the bottom steps.
741
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,760
He glanced at him briefly before scurrying on.
742
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:49,320
The man, Summers said he would never forget the man's face.
743
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:56,120
He was immediately taken back to the CIB where Superintendent Pryor interviewed him and was
744
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,320
convinced by what he heard that there was a witness to Holmes' murder.
745
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,280
He arranged to meet Summers at 9 a.m. the following day at the murder scene hoping that his luck
746
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,280
had changed.
747
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:12,520
The next day, 10 minutes before a court was to adjourn or excuse me, reconvene Dr. Palmer
748
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:19,640
like Gladys Smith and Clive Everett and Sergeant Tool and Coroner Orem into the morgue where
749
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,880
he would lead them to a small room and ask Gladys to describe what she expected to see
750
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,880
of the tattoo.
751
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,280
She told them that she expected to see two boxers and red shorts facing each other in
752
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,080
a crouching position outlined in blue.
753
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,880
Dr. Palmer then pulled the cloth back to show her a small piece of flesh.
754
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,080
With a quick glance, Gladys was sure that the arm belonged to her husband.
755
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,080
God, this seems so unnecessary.
756
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Right?
757
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Like the picture wasn't enough.
758
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,080
You have to make her look at the arm.
759
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Okay.
760
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:57,960
Dr. Palmer told the court that the limb had been cut off at the shoulder joint.
761
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:04,840
The skin was jagged, the sharp, even though the sharp was cut, seems that had been done
762
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,200
in a circular motion by a sharp instrument such as a knife.
763
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,560
This revelation stirred the court as it was previously believed that the arm had been
764
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,720
bitten off by the shark.
765
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:18,080
He produced his reports as evidence showing that there were no poisons or other fluids
766
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:26,280
present inside the arm tissue and that when he examined it, expecting a shark bite, Dr.
767
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:38,520
Victor said in his opinion that the arm was also removed, though it did not seem surgical,
768
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,800
that it was done roughly.
769
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,680
There were no flaps left to cover the wound, but he was also sure that the shark had not
770
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,680
bitten it off.
771
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,480
He was unsure of whether it came off of a live or dead body.
772
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,960
He also could not confirm.
773
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Excuse me.
774
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,280
He could also not confirm how long ago the arm had been removed from the body as the
775
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,280
digestion of the shark had skewed the decomposition timeline.
776
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:12,520
When asked why the arm was so well preserved, the doctors could only theorize that inside
777
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:20,680
the shark, when sharks are in distress, their digestion pauses and that having been captured
778
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,000
and thrown into a tank put the shark into distress, thus halting the digestion so that
779
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,680
the arm was only partially washed up.
780
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
There was a couple factors at play here.
781
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,440
I mean, just maybe.
782
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Maybe next time, don't do that.
783
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,960
He did have a sword stuck.
784
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,120
It could also have been that the shark had eaten another shark that originally ate the
785
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,640
arm, and the smaller shark would first have to be digested before getting to the arm,
786
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,000
which is what stalled, which was also stalled by the capture and the subsequent stress of
787
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080
being put in the aquarium.
788
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,080
That would explain the bits of shark and the bird, whatever else was being in there, was
789
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,760
all being digested before the arm, which is why it still had the visible tattoo.
790
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,480
He also goes on to say that he's not a shark expert, so he's only theorizing.
791
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,360
When asked by the coroner if he thinks that by the way the arm was removed from the victim,
792
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,880
if he could have lived after the fact, and he said that how it was so crudely removed,
793
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000
he doesn't think that there was a chance for the victim to have lived beyond the removal
794
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,240
of the limb due to rapidly leading to death.
795
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,560
So, there's an artery over there.
796
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:40,200
I went to cross-examination, where ever it would again try to ascertain whether the
797
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,520
doctor could tell if the arm came from a living or dead person, because Dr. Palmer answered
798
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,960
that he could not be certain whether it came from a live or dead body, and as he had previously
799
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,640
stated, he thought if it had come from a live body, he had expected to see certain results
800
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,440
and certain appearances that he would have expected to see the effusion of the blood
801
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,120
and the tissues, and the effusion would only have been from certain muscles at the end
802
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,120
of the limb.
803
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:16,160
But that's only a difficulty, and he had to concede that, you know, because the digestion
804
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:23,120
had taken place that he couldn't get an accurate description of what the arm looked like right
805
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
after it was cut off.
806
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,960
After the cross-examination of the doctor, the court was adjourned for lunch, but all
807
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:35,240
this was happening, while all of this was happening, the funeral for Reginald Holmes,
808
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:39,680
the funeral for Reginald Holmes was being held, and the investigation into his murder
809
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,920
was ongoing.
810
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,120
After lunch, witnesses would be called, all of them confirming that Jim Smith and Patty
811
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,480
had been seen in the days before Jim's disappearance.
812
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,120
Many of them claiming that they knew Patty by a different name, oftentimes when asked
813
00:51:52,120 --> 00:52:00,520
to identify him, they would say he was Williams, or to identify Williams, they would point
814
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,520
to Patty in the courtroom.
815
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:07,920
Many of them also said that there was a fair amount of camaraderie between them.
816
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Testimonies from different bar, testimonies from different barmen, down, testimonies from
817
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,600
different barmen down to the owner of the cottage confirmed what detectives had already
818
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,600
presented.
819
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,800
When Holmes' wife took the stance, she confirmed his statement saying that he had seen Patty
820
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,400
arrive with the kit bag, and that a week before her husband's death, he revealed to her Patty,
821
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:36,600
he revealed to her Patty's confession to Jim Smith's murder, and to the disposal of
822
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,000
his body inside the tin trunk.
823
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:48,160
She also revealed how Patty was, and how he had blackmailed her husband for almost a year.
824
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:56,320
Unfortunately, this is only circumstantial evidence and a tear say, and is now the statement
825
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,040
of a dead man, which cannot be verified.
826
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,160
Judge decided to admit it into evidence anyway.
827
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,640
Everett would tell Patty that this was bullshit, and that they were going to take action in
828
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,640
two different ways.
829
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:15,880
They were going to challenge the judge's jurisdiction, and filed contempt of court charges with the
830
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,040
press for what they had already reported for slander.
831
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:27,400
What they're posting is skewing public opinion, and it's a trial by...
832
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,920
I feel like that's an interesting question by the judge.
833
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,480
No, that was Patty's lawyer challenging the judge's jurisdiction.
834
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,480
The judge wasn't happy.
835
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,160
I was surprised the judge put it into evidence.
836
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Oh, yes.
837
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,760
They wanted a conviction.
838
00:53:49,760 --> 00:54:02,200
Sometimes they present the evidence to the narrative.
839
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,840
Confronting the judge was quickly shot down.
840
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,880
The judge basically telling him that it's his court, and he will proceed as he sees fit.
841
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,080
Sergeant Tool concluded his questioning of Mrs. Holmes, asking her how she saw her relationship
842
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,960
between her husband and Jim Smith.
843
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:31,280
Now that it was turned in, now that the fountain was thrown down, Everett was determined to
844
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,560
implicate her husband in Jim Smith's murder.
845
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:42,520
Now that it was Everett's turn, he was determined to implicate her husband in Jim Smith's murder.
846
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,160
He accused her of initiating divorce proceedings against her husband so that she could run
847
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,920
off with the young architect.
848
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,240
Of course, she was offended by the scandalous accusation, denying that her husband had any
849
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:57,040
firearms and that he had never threatened to shoot anybody or threaten anybody in general.
850
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,760
She denied any knowledge of the pathfinder other than it having been sunk and that Smith
851
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,440
was on it when it happened.
852
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
She says that she knew her husband gave the men money, but she never asked how much as
853
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,560
it was none of her business.
854
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,600
With all the finger pointing, court continued on.
855
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:16,160
So many secrets were revealed in nitty gritty details of not just boat insurance fraud,
856
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:25,960
but of standards ill-fated ideas to burn other investments of men held by other men.
857
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:37,120
When asked who Gladys thought killed her husband, Mrs. Holmes tried to keep Everett.
858
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:43,440
When asked, when Gladys was asked who she thought killed her husband, she implied that
859
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,360
the standard might have an idea.
860
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,960
The following morning, Everett pronounced his declaration to the Supreme Court to have
861
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,000
the case dropped due to lack of a body.
862
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:04,160
This of course angered coroner Judge Orem with Everett's accusation that he had no jurisdiction
863
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,480
and that the trial was being unfairly reported in the newspaper showing his client in a less-than-savory
864
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,480
light.
865
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:16,400
The computations were dragged through the mud as the last witnesses called were gone.
866
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:23,880
As the last witnesses were called, standard being one of them.
867
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:30,280
He showed himself to be foolish and evasive when on the stand.
868
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,760
With Everett's declaration that the inquest was a sham and that the coroner had no jurisdiction
869
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,200
because there was no body and this was never before heard of.
870
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:45,840
He brought up many legal questions for the future.
871
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,680
He did a very good job of citing previous cases where bodies could be presented in parts
872
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,600
but not parts of bodies.
873
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,280
These cannot be presented.
874
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:02,520
Soon this inquisition was dismissed by Judge Hall's Rogers who also found that the newspapers
875
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:10,080
were in contempt of court and ordered them to pay 100 pounds each and fines and the editor
876
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,840
25 pounds each to pay for the legal costs they paid up and apologized.
877
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Everett's like this is bullshit, there's no body.
878
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:27,720
There's been other cases where we've got most of a body put back together but no convictions
879
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,520
on just one part of the body.
880
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,520
There's been slanderous.
881
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Judge was like, alright.
882
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:45,000
Howdy had his fate in suspended animation and the hunt for Holmes's killer was strengthened.
883
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Though proved to be difficult.
884
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,080
Detectives discovered that people in the tight community of Rickson Road were tight-lipped
885
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,520
and uncooperative with authorities.
886
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,040
It was a rumor that anyone who talked on Holmes's behalf would suffer the same fate.
887
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,800
This lost many of their informants.
888
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,880
A one Jack Strong was the main suspect but with full check of his legal name the results
889
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,960
produced no more than a charge of assault in the early 20s and few arrests and a few
890
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:17,200
arrests for public drunkenness.
891
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:24,160
Person of interest as a person of interest, Detective Coleman, Detective Sergeant Matthews,
892
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:31,680
Jack being a person of interest by Detective Coleman and Detective Sergeant Matthews led
893
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:41,920
to an investigation by Constable John Brown of the Rocks Police Station saying that Jack
894
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,600
Strong could be found at his favorite place, the SNN Hotel.
895
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,880
They watched the man as he had a few beers letting himself loosen up before dragging
896
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,160
him in about 5 p.m. to the C.I.B.
897
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:59,280
After Matthews could launch his interrogation into Strong he was pulled aside.
898
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,800
The detectives had received two notes from an anonymous tipster called number 17.
899
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,640
The first note made three demands stating that the correspondent should be destroyed
900
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:14,000
the letter, that it should be shown to no other police officers and that if there were
901
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:22,000
any reward to come of the evidence held therein it should be paid to a private bank account.
902
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,920
The second note said that everyone is afraid to tell your men the truth and afraid that
903
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,320
it might leak out and then there would be more murder done.
904
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,120
In fact my life is in danger now.
905
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:41,280
If it was known that I gave you information I would not live two hours.
906
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,320
Detective Prior told Matthews that he had placed a cryptic response in the personal
907
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,520
comment section of the Sydney Morning Herald agreeing to the demands and that the second
908
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:55,520
note had arrived promptly.
909
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:02,720
Oh that was all the first note.
910
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:11,640
Second note arrived and recounted a brutal retelling of what had taken place.
911
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:21,960
The second note was a brutal retelling of what happened to Jim Smith.
912
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,120
It contained the following.
913
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,120
It contained the following.
914
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Holmes was put on the spot.
915
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,400
Standard was a friend of Holmes.
916
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,080
Standard drove with Holmes to Miller's Point.
917
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,800
Albert Standard and four killers were awaiting.
918
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:46,080
One of them being Jack Strong, another being a Berg, Macaulay and some bloke named Cassidy.
919
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,440
Albert Standard got out of the car.
920
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,840
The two men rushed up and shot Holmes before he had a chance.
921
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,680
Those two men were Jack Strong and Bert.
922
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,880
One of the two that killed Holmes.
923
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,040
So if you arrest all five men and have them remanded for seven or eight days I will tell
924
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:17,720
you the note demanded that the five men be arrested and remain for seven or eight days
925
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:25,000
so that they could get information out of the informant enough to convict.
926
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:31,240
He wouldn't say anything until the men were behind bars.
927
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:37,560
The detectives confirmed what the note said looking into the accused men's backgrounds.
928
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,760
All of them had extensive police jackets except for the aforementioned Cassidy.
929
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,760
They were all known to have connections to Albert Standard for lengthy amounts of time.
930
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,360
The detectives tracked down the accused men who all had much the same story that on the
931
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,520
afternoon in question Cassidy and Berg arrived at Standard's boat shed around 455 where he
932
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:04,840
saw Standard sitting in the car where they saw Holmes sitting in the car and Standard
933
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,480
talking to him through the driver's window.
934
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:16,120
They said Albert called them over where they got to the back of Holmes' car.
935
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,520
Callie said he tried to talk to Holmes about the batteries and the boat that Holmes was
936
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,000
building called the Ben Yolanda.
937
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:29,360
But Holmes had yelled back saying he had more important things to worry about.
938
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,480
Hallie told the detectives that after six minutes Berg left the car leaving Standard
939
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,400
still talking to Holmes.
940
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,560
Not long after Standard came over to them and they talked about the boat matters for another
941
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,880
twelve minutes during which time Holmes went to the office and made a telephone call.
942
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Callie said that Holmes left the office a short time later and had the final private
943
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,920
conversation with Standard for another minute and a half and then drove away.
944
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,760
All of his times being oddly precise this matched Sammy Berg's account almost word for
945
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,760
word.
946
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,200
Finally some people who can keep their story straight.
947
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,520
Finally some people who can keep their story straight.
948
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,560
So we've got this from I'm going to sum up the last few events here.
949
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,400
Cady's case was moved to the Supreme Court Monday September 9th 1935 where he was still
950
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,920
represented by Everett.
951
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,240
All of the facts and evidence were presented once more.
952
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,320
The witnesses reviving their testimonies.
953
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:27,360
Justice Jordan throwing out some of the statements which was a real blow to the prosecution.
954
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,320
After the trial the jury returned to the court and on the second day with no more witnesses
955
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to call or evidence or evidence to present last remarks were given.
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Without saying it goes without saying that there was little the prosecution had that
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was necessary to get a guilty verdict out of the jury.
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Justice Jordan would peek out through his wig and say that this case was one in which
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the evidence is circumstantial and in such a case it is well established that a jury
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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,920
is not entitled to convict unless there is no other reasonable explanation or evidence
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that the accused is guilty in such a case.
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In such a case if it is found reasonably possible there may be reasonable explanation which is
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consistent with innocence.
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The jury must acquit in the present case.
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There can be no doubt that there is plenty of metaphor suspicion in the evidence that
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has been placed before the court during the last two days but the clear opinion I have
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formed is that upon the subject principles of conviction upon the evidence cannot be
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allowed to stand in the circumstances.
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It seems to me that I have no alternative but to direct and acquittal and I direct
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accordingly.
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Patty was pleased and dropped his head while Grayson and his sisters sobbed and hugged
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each other.
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It was over upon the director of Chief Justice the jury gave a not guilty verdict.
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After everything was said and done there was a shadow of doubt cast on Pat Brady's involvement
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and his mates after everything was said and done there was a shadow of doubt cast on Pat
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Brady's involvement in the eyes of his mates.
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As you've heard the evidence it was circumstantial and it could be a case of Johnny Law wanting
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to get their man and making the evidence fit the narrative.
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What could have actually happened to Jim Smith?
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There is no certain conclusion only theories unbeen that he was shot in a struggle with
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the unknown men that turned up at the cottage and was buried in the bushland.
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You would later recall how Jim had told Patty would later recall how Jim told him that he
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felt as if he was in danger and that Holmes would be behind anything that happened to
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him.
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Even on his deathbed Patty claimed that he was innocent and that he had no idea what
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happened to his old friend Jim Smith.
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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,760
He and the authors that interviewed him in his late life surmised that Jim Smith and
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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,520
Reginald Holmes' murder was undoubtedly linked but who orchestrated them and who committed
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them will forever remain a mystery.
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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:52,040
Holmes had been martyred by the gangs he was moving drugs for.
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01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:57,120
That was certainly one theory for detectives that they pursued though with the recent disaster
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01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,480
of the Pat Brady case the commissioner advised them to move cautiously.
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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,920
Gathering what evidence and testimony they could an inquest was began into Reginald Holmes'
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death though standard was a strong person of interest he was not formally charged.
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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,880
During the inquest with the testimonies of standard Jack Strong and associates the revelations
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that standard moved drugs and paid off blackmailers were revealed.
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Suspicions were soon turned from persons of interest to accused.
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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:29,120
The inquest proceeded much the same as Jim Smith's with finger pointing and reputation
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smearing running rampant but no concrete evidence surfacing.
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01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:38,920
In the interest of not making this a three-parter as we're about 30 pages of notes here and
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a bunch of incoherent babbling I'm going to go off to say that ultimately both cases
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remain unsolved but the deaths of Reginald Holmes and Jim Smith have provided curious
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minds with puzzles for many decades.
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01:06:52,840 --> 01:07:02,280
There are several books written such as the shark arm murders and the shark arm
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tale shark arm murders and shark arm a shark a tattooed and a shark a tattooed arm and
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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,920
two unsolved murders by Philip Rup and Kevin Meeker.
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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,560
They all really dived into this case.
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I'm just regurgitating their research and stories.
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I highly recommend further reading in their books.
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They really worked hard for it over the years.
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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,720
Yeah so that's a short exception.
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That was Jim Smith and Reginald Holmes.
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That was crazy.
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Every turn there was vote races there is reckons.
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Suicides and murders.
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Blackmail.
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All of it.
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It was all there.
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It was it really it fucking was.
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I hope I didn't bore you with too much words.
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I was really into it.
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01:07:53,240 --> 01:08:15,460
Well that was amazing.
1023
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Yeah nobody gave a shit about you.
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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,160
Obviously it's quite a幹 thing.
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Yeah it's been really fun.