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To me, the best crowd work is when the audience
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is not expecting.
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It's either that or it's quasi crowd work where it
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feels organic to the audience. But when you watch that person,
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you see that they've got four or five slotted answers.
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Crowd, but I remember going, oh, he had that locked.
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It's like a magic like they have. They have stock answers,
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and then they pull him out when it's appropriate.
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I don't agree with any of this. I'm sorry, we
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haven't met. I'm Jeff. What's your name?
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Holy ship.
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I didn't know that.
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I would just take it for granted. I though y'all
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knew each other.
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My man, I don't go out enough. Oh yeah, I
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just assume it's my fault.
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Oh yeah, j Manum, all right, we need to cheer
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this guy up. He's not he's not his usual cheerful self.
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This is this is happy right here.
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You're a kidding. No, there's no way going car rides
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with him.
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Yeah.
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I have been in one.
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Never a word spoken.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad. My let's just hope we're recording.
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Here's my least favorite thing about Ja Mandy. Let's go
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to run the room. Talk about our least favorite things
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about jam maide yes, of course that he exists.
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That yeah, you got it, you got him.
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I don't even know if I have one yet, but
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I feel like it'ld be more hurtful coming from me,
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a stranger.
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It's just but but all you have is I just
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don't like the way the guy.
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Looked showed up. I got five.
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I had to learn this guy's name.
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Now, where could I now? Jay's thing? Jay's thing is
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uh you? Anytime I ever show him anything, I'm like, oh, dude,
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my special is not out yet, but there's a clip
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that just came out, and I'm like, watch this boom
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and you know, I've worked weeks and months on and
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I show him the clip and he goes, yep, I
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wish I got it.
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Yep.
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He just no.
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I'm saying, yeah, that's that's about.
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Right, And I'm like, you know what, fuck me. Like
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We're driving and I'm like, I'm just gonna roll out
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of the car while it's moving. I'm like nothing, I
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get nothing out of you, no feedback. And then and
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then finally, after about the fourth one, I go, dude,
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I'm getting nothing out of Egos. What do you want
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me to do. I watched it. I'm like, let's talk
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about it.
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Yes, what do you want it? It's hey, it's there.
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You know what, though he probably thinks by not shitting
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on it, he's being very nice.
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That's what it is.
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It just you know what it's like.
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When I was in grad school.
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There we gossers would tell me I was the worst
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with giving feedback, and I'm like, I'm not fucking qualified
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to come to opine.
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I love that honesty people, because there are so many
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people that aren't qualified. They're like, oh, how much time
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you got.
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Yeah, But here's the thing. But if one of your
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friends shows you something, that should tell you that we
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believe you are qualified and your feedback is valuable.
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To us, or that you like it or find it.
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Or that you don't because you could save me some
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trouble if it sucks because I'm showing you as a
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because I'm not gonna put it out to the world.
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If one of my friends goes bro, that's not it because.
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Like, like, like especially if I'm watching like a stand
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up clip, I'm not watching it objectively. I'm watching it
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for like technical stuff. I'm watching it for for like
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the materials material wise, like I'm not watching it from
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a oh, let me sit here and enjoy it perspective
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like I can't.
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Your laughter is different as yeah, so.
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Basically a really fun guy shut that part of my
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Like it's it's kind of gotten to the point now.
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Where I just can't watch stand up and shut my
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brain off like I'm always kind of in the analytical.
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Oh I watched Special with him not a peep, not
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a peep.
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It's almost loving it to me.
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That's almost when I I feel like I know that
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I enjoy someone's stand up is when I can at
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some point forget and go back to like, oh yeah,
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like the word I'm not analyzing it because I'm gonna start.
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I'm gonna start by analyzing it too much.
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And then at some point if my brain turns off
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and I'm just a regular audience member, when I come
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back too, I'm just like, oh shit, Wow.
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This is all good stuff for the podcast. I hope
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you're recording.
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So like when I was watching Nicky Glazer on Sunday.
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They're Special or no there just like through her window
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when I was.
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Trying to peer through that dress through to see.
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It, do you catch the through the.
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I like there was one joke she had where I
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didn't laugh, but I was like, oh, that's a really
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good joke.
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Yeah, you're more analytical than you're you're watching it from
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as an analyst and not a fan.
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Yeah, I feel like I watch eighty percent of stand
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of comedy that way. Yeah, I'll sit and not laugh
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one time ago that was a great special, Like I
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get it every now and then. Stuff will crack me up.
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But I don't just sit there and belly laugh and
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stuff like I did when I was just a fan
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of comedy.
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I don't.
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I don't. I don't watch a lot of stand up.
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It looks different now when you're on the backside, and
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I have a hard.
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Time watching it sometimes, even when I know it's good,
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I'm like, yeah, I can't watch this anywhere. I don't know.
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Sometimes it's just as a comedian, I can tell what
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it's when it's bullshit, when you're telling a story that
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isn't real, the thing didn't happen and you're just trying
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to be funny.
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So I guess the show started.
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Okay, Yeah, do you do like a song or something? Seriously?
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Not not yet. I'm still I would.
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Like your circus serious circus Jim is very serious.
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In the circus of life.
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Are we all sure? Are we all? I don't know.
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I mean people have side hustles, do what you gotta do,
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but all of us are pretty much full time into
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stand up right, like doing comedy.
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Like I'm doing the podcasts.
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Sure, I mean that's part of it, but I'm saying
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like this is like, you're not right. So, uh, the
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first thing I want to talk about worst job like
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you actually had when you had to do it, Like what's.
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Worst job in comedy or.
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Worst No, no, no, no, we'll get there too without
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without ruining relationships, without the worst day job. Yeah, yeah,
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like you're worst forced like nine to five that you
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had to do. Mine personally was for a water department.
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They put the new guys in sewage development. So and
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when I say they put you in sewage, I literally
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mean they put you in sewage Like it was for
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a small small town in Texas called Everman.
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And there was nobody that like wanted to be And
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there's no, no, no passionate to be a part of the
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sewage department.
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Yeah, you don't go to college for that and go
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you know what I want because what happens is First
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of all, you're on call twenty four to seven. If
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there's a massive pipe burst. It's almost always a sewage pipe,
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and the pipes run into the street and they burst
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and they cause flooding. So the way to fix it
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is they drive out a little machine, bust up the asphalt,
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and then you have to get down in the ground
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with the leaky pipe. Well, I don't know if you
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ever seen this before, but it's pretty deep. It's five
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six seven feet under the ground sometimes, and I'm I'm
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not seven feet tall, So what does that tell you?
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Do a little bit of math. So I'm down there
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and it starts it's leaking. I climb down and this
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is not even a joke. You would think this guy
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was joking. He was dead serious. It's like four o'clock
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in the morning. First of all, it's a long time ago.
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That's the worst part of the whole thing. Four o'clock
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in the morning.
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That's insane.
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My beeper is supposed to be My beeper went off
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and woke me up, and I knew there was an emergency.
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And so I drive out there and I get to
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the site and they're like, all these lights are already
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out there, there's a thing digging up a hole, and
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they're like, we need you in there. You gotta patch
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the pipe. And in order to do that, you gotta
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take this thing and link it around. And for some
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reason it latches on the bottom. I don't know why.
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We can't flip that thing upside down. So the pipe's
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pretty large, and so I'm in the hole and it's
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squirting water everywhere. And this is not clear, clean, fun
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you know water. It is absolutely sewage. And so the
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water is just like rising. And now I'm up to
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my chest in sewage and I'm trying to reach under
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this pipe to connect it. And I'm like, I can't
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reach the bottom of the pipe without without going under.
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And so I yelled out to my boss and I go,
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hey man, he's I can just see, you know, a
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shadow of him way above me on the on the asphalt,
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and I go, I can't reach the bottom. He threw
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me a snorkel.
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No way, Oh my god.
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I get the job done, put on a snorkel and
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went in submerged my entire body into sewage to lock
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that up. And dude, the money minimum wage did they did?
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They put you in those like rubber overall thingies that
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you wear.
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So I was in waiters, which come up to like
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about your waist. So once the once the water got here,
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it was playing. It didn't matter. Yeah, you exactly ship
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exactly exactly. So when I think when when I when
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I start having hard times, when I start having hard
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times in comedy, I'm like, you know what I'm not holding?
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Hold then? Where?
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Oh dude, it was between five to seven bucks an hour. Wow,
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I don't think we had hit the seven twenty five yet. Yeah,
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maybe we did. But if you still you're not at
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seven twenty probably not.
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Probably now now would that extra twenty five cents an
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hour have made it worth it?
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Absolutely not?
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I think you know that A longer snorkel maybe.
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No, the snorkle was pretty long, I hope, So snorkel
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was pretty long. Yeah, yeah, And and they were nice
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to me. One of the guys leaned down into the
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hole and kept the snorkel upright so that I didn't
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swallow ship water.
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Once you got down in where you submerged, you can't
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hear anything, right, Oh they were talking somewhere. Oh yeah
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they were. They're like, you know, he doesn't he doesn't
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have to do this right. He knows that, like if
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one of them just went well, they wanted the thing fixed.
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So it's like, well, then I'll murder you. What do
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you mean?
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I think there's some level of this job is so
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disgusting that you got pick your battles where it's like
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there's pick on the new guy, and then there's all
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I will murder you and your family.
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And you know what, he's already swim in pits. He's
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already crazy and desperate enough to be submerged in ship water.
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He might not be the person you want to fuck with.
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You don't mess with a minimum wage worker who's yeah.
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There, all right, David, this wasn't in vain. Okay, since
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you're since you're old enough to have a beeper, you
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remember that you remember the Saturday Morning cartoon Snorks? I do, okay,
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so let's when you said snorkel. This made me think about,
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let's reboot snorks, but they're in ship water instead of
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the ocean.
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Snork plumbers.
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My father for a while, but when I was young
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and he it was a nightmare because my my grandfather
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was a welder, so my dad was a pipefitter and
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he would have to go into these ditches and there
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one day he's in this he's on a job and
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he's in this hole that they dug and he has
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these things he has and he cuts into an electrical
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line and it blows him completely out of out of
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the ditch. And that was his last day working at
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that joint. Yeah, damn, I'm very fortunate, man, I've never
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had that job.
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What work did you do?
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Well?
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My very first job that I got paid to do,
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I was was, Oh I sold. That was probably the
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worst one. I went door to door trying to sell
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the La Times subscriptions.
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Oh wow.
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And it was when La Times wanted to go into
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Orange County and they had the La Times Orange County
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edition and they would take all us LA kids that
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were just kind of running around the streets and they
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would say, we'll give you a job, and they threw us
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in a van, drove us into the richest parts of
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Orange County to go door to door saying would you
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like a subscription to the How are you that time?
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I was probably sixteen, sixteen seventeen, and it was it
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was it was. There were good days and bad days.
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off and then you're just walking.
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Yeah, and they put us in partners pairs. I was
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the only white kid on the crew other than my brother.
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So if you know anything about Orange County, it's it's
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very very white. And we would have met. We were
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met at doors with guns in our faces. Get off
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my lawn. U N word?
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Wow? Crazy stuff. Yeah.
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But then we would go into certain neighbors and I
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had this happen a few times. We're like lonely rich housewives.
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We're like, you want to come in for a nice tea?
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Yeah, and you're like yeah, dude. Yeah.
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So you you were either oddly so you were either
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getting called the N word for some reason, or or
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you were like in a porno.
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Ah. I remember this flow.
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I would that's a good trade off. That's a good
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trade off.
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Wow, flip a coin, how's today gonna be?
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Yeah?
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After that, I signed a record deal. I was producing
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music eighteen nineteen years old.
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Did that for a little bit.
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You've always had fun stuff.
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I've never had a real job except for those the
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New York, The New York the La Times went. And
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then my dad was worked at this electronics components company.
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And when I was twenty one, I know when I
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was nineteen to twenty one. I worked there, but it
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was one of those things where dad's dad hooked it up,
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so I was I kind of just thought I ran
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the place, which it didn't.
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Oh you were that dick. Well the dad was the
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dad's the owner, and he didn't know what you were.
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Tell my dad finds out right, you know who my
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dad is, But you were young.
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I was in production.
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I was in charge of producing and making these little
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little components. And then I found out my dad didn't
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have as much power as I thought, because one day
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he called me into his office and he says, I'm
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done due, I don't want to do this anymore. I go,
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what's going on? He goes, well, they're making cutbacks and
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they told me that I need to fire people. And
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the first person they want me to fire is my
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own son. Oh wow, And I went, Now, meanwhile, I've
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been studying martial arts since.
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I was twelve years old. So he choked his ass out.
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No, so my brother was already teaching. My dad was
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a black.
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I was like, he said, how about we opened our
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own martial arts school in that meeting, and I was like, okay,
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not a month, like just barely a month later, the
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day from that meeting, we got funding location and we
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opened our doors for our martial arts school. Opened that
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in ninety two, did that until, had that until I
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was in my forties, because I opened it twenty one,
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and then I had I had kids really young. You
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know that my kids are grown ups. And then in
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two thousand and six I walked into the Haha Comedy
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Club and started doing stand up comedy. So the first
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seven years of comedy I still owned the business. And
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then when I thought wrongly that I made it in comedy,
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when I.
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What made you think you made it?
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Because I got beaty comic view, got the Tonight Show,
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got flown out, and paid the two jfl name on
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the Walter Comedy Store.
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I'm like, here we are, I made it.
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Side note. I had Billy Gardell in here. We were
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having a meeting, and he goes, I made a and
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I said, so, I was trying to give him a compliment,
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and I said, with all the success you have, And
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I try to finish my sentence, and he goes, had
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really had? And I go, no, you're very yourself. He goes, had,
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He goes, he goes, buddy, he goes, you can't have
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a review mirror in this business. He goes, you got
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to have a Yeah, you can't have a review in
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this business. He's like, whatever success you've seen me have
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that is in the past, and I'm starting over every time.
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I mean, dudes, had two massive hit TV.
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Shows, Yeah three if you count yes to hear.
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Right right, just just super successful. But that's the mindset
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because like, and I remember Tom Hanks saying this too
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with it on some kind of actors roundtable. He goes,
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you know, whenever you try for an audition and you
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don't get it and all your friends go, oh, this
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too shall pass, don't worry about it. He goes, I
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just wish somebody would have said that to me when
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I had my successes. When you get bosom buddies, you
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have your own TV show and you think.
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I made it.
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He goes, I just wish somebody would go, this too
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shall pass, because it comes in waves.
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Thirteen, all that great success in that one year, and
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I sold my studio, I sold my schools, put some
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money in my pocket, was able to pay some bills
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and stuff, and wow, Trajector went, Now, you're just gonna
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be like this for a long time, and then then
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I realized, oh, it's just up and down. So I've
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done I've done the side.
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Hustle of driving for Uber, but that's it.
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And then I got very fortunate that I got picked
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up by some major comics to do the road and
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that kind of thing and open and some big money.
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When I was I did the World with Russell Peters,
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which paid paid my bills for a while.
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Yeah, good money.
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And then of course now my side hustle that I
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consider my now side hustle is Carnival.
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Is not Carnival, but cruise ships.
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I'm on the Royal Caribbean cruise ships making enough money
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to pay all my bills.
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That's dope.
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And I don't have to do it all the time.
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And I'm still doing stand up.
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Somebody was asking me about doing the cruise ship and
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then someone goes, you know, you have to have like
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an hour and a half. I want you to do
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sometimes an hour, twenty hour three just you. And I'm like,
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I did that when I filmed my special, but I
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couldn't imagine doing that five nights a week.
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I'll tell you what I'm doing on these cruise ships
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twenty minutes.
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What and it's this Royal this is their thing. Yeah.
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I think it depends on the on the cruise line.
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So Royal Caribbean has these big ships that have comedy
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clubs them on them. The comedy club sits maybe one
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hundred and fifty people. There are almost seven thousand people
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on the ship. The club only sits about one hundred
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and fifty people. So you're getting a different crowd all
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the time. So they're like, yeah, I go, so, how
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many sets doing to do? They're like, what do you mean?
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They're like, just do your twenty minutes. I go same
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show every week, every show goes. Yeah, it's a new
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crowd every show. I go.
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How clean? They're like, it's an adult show.
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This sounds like a dream. Jakeb I would love to
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do that. I would love to do.
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When I was super excited. I don't know if you
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guys know who Greg Barrant is. Yeah, Barrent, he wrote
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He's just not that into you. He was a writer
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on Sex and the City. He's on the cruise ships
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and he's on Royal And my very first one was
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with him. And I'm sitting in the green room and
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you can hear the vog. The guy doing the announcements,
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and I go, how clean do we have to be?
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Because they didn't tell me hardly anything like you're you're
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here because we like you have a great time, you know.
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The only real rule they said is like just don't
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talk about the company, which I totally get. I'm wor
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sure for him, and Greg goes, oh, listen, and the
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vo G guy goes, and another reminder, this is an
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adult show, so if you are easily offended, please make
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your way to deck too and see the doctor to
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have that stick removed from your ass. Yeah, how your
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audience is, like, he goes, it's fun and there are
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different ones.
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That's great, that's great.
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You do a lot of shows.
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Two shows a night, you have Thursday off, Wow, couple
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one night you do three, and then the last night
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you do one show in the like it's like a
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two thousand seat theater and it's any changing.
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I can the feeling that Jeff has had a separate
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a differently.
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Got to do it once. Oh, I did it once.
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It was a fill in minute, like with a weak
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heads up, and when I they there was some miscommunication
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because the person that I was filling in for he
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was doing this for months and months at a time,
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so he didn't he knew this was my first time
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on a cruise ship. I didn't even know where the
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fuck I was supposed to be, and that at some
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point there was like an alarm that went off that
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was supposed to mean that everybody that works, uh, that's
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being paid to be here. I guess it's our responsibility
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to help people if they drown or something, and an
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alarm goes off. That's what we all had to do,
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like literally every single person that worked there, whether you
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were a chef or whether it didn't matter what you were.
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An alarm goes off, and then that means you're supposed
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to go to this deck, and then if you're on
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this side, you're supposed to go there. And at some point,
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and I wasn't a part of it. I was really
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annoyed this alarm was going off. Nobody told me about it,
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and then later on somebody in another language is yelling
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at me, and I'm.
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Like, what the fuck are we talking about.
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I wasn't a part of any I was like, nobody
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told me any of any of this, And there was like, oh,
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somebody was supposed to fill you in when you got
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in here and I was like, yeah, I don't know
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where I'm going.
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Price, So he's the one that got the heads up.
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Yeah.
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I was walking through the kitchen and at times like
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just to try to get around the shoes.
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That's how you have to do it.
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You gotta be downstairs and all this shiit.
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See.
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My first experience with a cruise ship gig was another
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cruise line where you had to have five different sets,
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a clean show of this show. Yeah, they put you
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in a prison cell below deck that I found out
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that I found out later was next to the morgue. Yeah,
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ships have morgs because people die on them. And it
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was and you had to wear a name tag. Remember
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where you went, Yeah, I had. I had to wear
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a name tag. Canceled all those. I canceled all those,
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and then then I had. Then I was like, I
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need to make some money. So I got in contact
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with the Royal contacted me and it was it's dude,
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you go on like a guest.
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You stay in the stateroom. It's like a beautiful room
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with a window of you.
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And it's at every twenty minutes is your headlining set?
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No? So these are the different gigs.
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So the ships that have the comedy clubs two comics
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twenty minutes each. Some of them have three comics. Doing
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fifteen each doesn't change the pay.
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Just forty minutes. Forty minutes of a comedy show, well yeah.
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It's a forty minute show. And then they go because
494
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they're on this cruise ship and they have they're like
495
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all schedulers and so but then there's these I think
496
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there are a little smaller ships. They don't have a
497
00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.079
comedy club. And you do the theater and you do
498
00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:26.319
a forty five minute headliner set ready once for the week.
499
00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.920
Once, Wow, I had I had to do twenty.
500
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.359
I do like fifteen. Like there was like a one
501
00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.960
show that was like interviewing. It was like showing everybody
502
00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.759
the types of acts that you'll have this week, and
503
00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.720
so it was just like everybody doing just a little
504
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bit of everything.
505
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So I might have did like ten to fifteen minutes.
506
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But then there was two other sets, one clean, one dirty,
507
00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.759
but that were like forty minutes. But even the dirty
508
00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:50.160
set wasn't really dirty. It's it's it's still as dirty
509
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as you can get away with when everybody's old.
510
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Like, there wasn't a I was the youngest person by decades.
511
00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.519
Still still better probably yeah, and then you'll better than
512
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probably your worst job, which I'm sure interested.
513
00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:04.720
Oh yeah, no I did. I did door to door
514
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sales selling cable. I did, yeah, And.
515
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That was it was.
516
00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.960
It was awful for me because my brother was great
517
00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.599
at it and he couldn't understand why me doing comedy,
518
00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.279
like just be funny at the door, and I'm like no,
519
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:24.119
but he's like, they don't want me. When I go
520
00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.640
to an audience. They were they wanted, they wanted this.
521
00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:30.880
You know what I mean, I'm knocking on a stranger's door.
522
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They're pulling out like not. My brother just couldn't care
523
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less like it's at the time. For Comcast, it was
524
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like back when people had a home phone, a triple
525
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play would pay like three hundred bucks if you had
526
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.200
to sign somebody up to to get all three of them,
527
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.279
and and all they had to do is just get
528
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it installed and you got paid.
529
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.119
So it was like, just get through the assholes.
530
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.200
Find one person in a day that's willing to save
531
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some money, and you'll make three hundred bucks that day.
532
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.759
So it wasn't like bad in theory, but there's still
533
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.599
only so many times somebody can say fuck you, I
534
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.039
hate you before you're like say, I just I just
535
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:10.559
don't want this in my soul anymore.
536
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.279
That's what I was saying. Looking back now, how dangerous
537
00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.279
is that? Yeah, you don't know what kind of person
538
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:17.599
you're The door.
539
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:23.359
One time I knocked on somebody's door and uh, he.
540
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He was holding his He opens.
541
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.920
The door very aggressively, and he's one hundred percent naked
542
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.799
and he's holding this little he's holding like a little dog.
543
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.799
And then he says, what do you want? And then
544
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.680
and I'm like, I just tried to I don't know
545
00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:42.599
why I should have. I didn't know what to do
546
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.680
because I was like, well, I don't you don't strike
547
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.160
me as the person that wants me to talk to you.
548
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.160
But also you're I've never had somebody be like naked, aggressive, like.
549
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.039
Look at whenever you're selling, I'm buying it, and.
550
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Adull dog.
551
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And then he was like what a statement, and the
552
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:02.960
and the cursing didn't match. It was weird, like he
553
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.480
was like, get your bitch off of my property, and
554
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I was like, I don't even know. The bitch didn't
555
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:10.880
really flow in the sentence that well, I'm gonna leave,
556
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.720
but he already had like the son of a ship,
557
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.240
and then he had my flyer like that had the
558
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.880
number on it. And then he keeps calling and calling
559
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:20.640
like he's still angry.
560
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:22.279
I tried to knock on it. He was.
561
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.279
He was outside for so long that I tried to
562
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.759
just knock on the neighbor's door, like, please answer the door.
563
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:27.440
You need to know.
564
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.759
Do you know that you're you have a neighbor that's naked.
565
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:31.960
That's a crazy man. I don't know if you know that.
566
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.680
But he didn't answer the door, and I was just like,
567
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:36.519
this is this is insane.
568
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.119
This man flyer drop a couple of times a year
569
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.960
from my martial arts school. One time I show up
570
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to teach classes and my mom was running the office
571
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.440
and she's like, come back here. You gotta hear this voicemail.
572
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.400
And this woman was just losing.
573
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You keep your fucking trash off my fin park you.
574
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If I see this fire one more time, I'm gonna
575
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.119
come in here business and shoot through. It was like
576
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.240
it was this small.
577
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.559
It was a little guy on their porch, didn't go
578
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.599
in their mailbox, didn't go on their screen, just on
579
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.759
their porch, flipped.
580
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.319
Out people don't know that no soliciting does. It doesn't
581
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.680
mean anything like people like like, cause if you because
582
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.000
technically it's even like we would always be like, well,
583
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.599
technically you're not I'm not even at I'm not collecting
584
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.440
any money from you. You're signing up a thing to
585
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.759
pay monthly later on, so I'm not even really soliciting.
586
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.079
But it's also just like nine out of the ten
587
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.039
people that you did sell had a no soliciting sign.
588
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.319
No soliciting means no.
589
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.400
Assholes you knocking sign?
590
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.279
Yeah, absolutely, I would go on the door and then
591
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.039
and then half the time more often they were. They
592
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.279
were angry, of course, but they were just as angry
593
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:49.680
as the people that didn't have no soliciting signs. Their
594
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.960
anger level wasn't higher because of the sign. They just
595
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.880
had a reason to be like, look at the sign.
596
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.039
But there was still just as many people that were
597
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.400
like that didn't even care that there was a sign
598
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.079
because they were like, oh, I'm getting I'm paying too
599
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.200
much money, so ignore the sign.
600
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.440
Yeah, no, I want to sign up.
601
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.319
So then it's like, well, if one person signs up
602
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.079
that has the sign out front, how do I It's like,
603
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.759
if what are you gonna call the cops.
604
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:14.839
I'm just not going to give you my phone number. Then,
605
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.119
back then, when you tell.
606
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.960
Them we were a little more straightforward, they knew what
607
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.039
you wanted to give them. There's this new thing that's
608
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:21.799
happening in my neighborhood. Or a guy I'll knock on
609
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.759
my door and I'll go, yeah, what's up, And he goes, hey, man,
610
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.680
I'm working on your neighbor's house down and I.
611
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.799
Went, who Bob, Sarah, Who's house?
612
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:33.359
And that's so funny because I did door door Now,
613
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.079
I can't stand it when my doorbell rings. Old Man
614
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:39.400
Staco has a bit about it. It's so real it
615
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.720
in me, it's almost as bad as FaceTime.
616
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:43.720
I can tell you.
617
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.960
I can't showing up and announced. I hate it.
618
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.440
I had a guy knock on my door and say that, hey,
619
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.960
we're working on your sorry to bother you, we're helping
620
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.359
your neighbor out. There was a hailstorm recently, yeah, yeah,
621
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.359
And I was like, I was like, this is bullshit,
622
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.200
this is bullshes back in Texas when I had my
623
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.440
house and and a health storm had just come through
624
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.039
like and and fucked a lot of things up, and
625
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:06.720
so I let him do his thing, and then I
626
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.920
was like, I was like, so you're trying to sell
627
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:10.400
me a roof. He's like, we just file all your
628
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.400
stuff with your insurance company. If they don't approve it,
629
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.559
we don't do it. And I was like, that's a
630
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.279
pretty good sales pitch because it's not unlike money out
631
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.759
of my pocket necessarily. And so they ended up doing
632
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.880
the inspection finding some damage and they got a They're
633
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.559
always I got a brand new roof and it didn't
634
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.960
cost me anything, like they got paid like a small
635
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.359
like thousand dollars deductible insurance.
636
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:30.440
Paid for it.
637
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:31.640
Yeah.
638
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.480
Yeah. And then as a matter of fact, while they
639
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.279
were there, uh, and they already had some damage that
640
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.279
they were dealing with, I was like, I've always wanted
641
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.160
to get this bathroom redone do y'all do? And and
642
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.839
they're like, yeah, we do that stuff too, And I'm like,
643
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.440
so because they were already there on site, I was
644
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.680
able to get a huge discount on the getting a bathroom.
645
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.759
They were probably chill, tell you what we do, because
646
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:52.079
he is the ones that goes yeah, but what you
647
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.519
need to do.
648
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.119
Is yeah, they weren't like that.
649
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.519
You guys are adults. With homes and stuff. That's crazy
650
00:27:58.680 --> 00:27:59.480
good for you guys.
651
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.119
I'm just I would like to talk to Jay Mandium
652
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.799
now I don't uh and and I.
653
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.279
Want to hear his worst first job.
654
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.880
My worst first job. My first job was I worked
655
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:13.680
at Old Navy. That was my first job.
656
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.400
Oh yeah, I mean, y'all had bad jobs, but they
657
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.200
were just kind of salesy, irritating job. Y'all really didn't
658
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.039
do any like you got hardcore labor.
659
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.279
You didn't do any swim and s.
660
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000
I mean, and by the way, I made sandwiches. I've
661
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.799
worked at Jimmy John's. Never did jobs.
662
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.640
I worked in like factories, like box factories, and like
663
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.480
like swinging hammers and like I did.
664
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.640
I did blue collar mentally exhausting. I just mean, I
665
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.799
just hated myself because every single day I'd see other
666
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.440
people make so much money, And there's something demoralizing knowing
667
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.039
that for a fact, if you just are okay with
668
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.319
knocking on enough doors, you will make money.
669
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.680
Yeah you It's it's one hundred percent fact.
670
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.960
All you have to do, at least at this point
671
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.759
in time, as long as you are okay with people
672
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.960
saying they hate you and they want to kill you
673
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.559
if if you knock on enough doors, you will make
674
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.640
three hundred dollars a day guaranteed.
675
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:07.480
And I'm like, I don't know.
676
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.960
So then I'm just like, I guess I'm just a
677
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.000
little bitch, and it's just there's no escape in that.
678
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.759
My logic in my brain is like, well, yeah, they're
679
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.359
just they're just they just don't feel anything when somebody
680
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.039
yell's at them.
681
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.359
I'm feeling it. I understand that way.
682
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.640
I think I would rather do the shit jobs I
683
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.079
had than to do that, because like I worked at
684
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.480
a lot of automotive I worked in like tire shops,
685
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.880
and I remember like being just greasy and gross and
686
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:33.920
like trying to like jack up a car and then
687
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.519
it's raining on me and I'm just like I'm having
688
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.839
to wear goggles but i can't see and everything's slippery,
689
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:40.960
and I'm thinking, what could be fucking worse than this
690
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.039
walking around for eight hours knocking on doors begging for
691
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.240
approval like that?
692
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:46.599
Fuck?
693
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.720
Then I would rather be dirty working on cars.
694
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.119
I think I also like be under the car and
695
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.039
you don't have to deal with the customer. Yeah, but
696
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.680
if you went to the front office, you'd be.
697
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.039
Like exactly yeah, exactly.
698
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.599
I feel like three hundred dollars a day isn't enough
699
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.319
to make me want to do that. Sure well, surely
700
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.279
there were days in sale.
701
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.359
Yeah, They're like there were days better at it. They'd
702
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.480
get they'd get they could get signed up for people.
703
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.279
And I'm sure there were days where you didn't get anyone.
704
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.519
Yeah. Yeah, that's people have a game at it.
705
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.319
They're like, oh, their neighbors, oh if you if if
706
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.519
they actually like you, then they're like, oh, well I
707
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:18.759
was talking my neighbors. And then you can get like
708
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.680
four sales off of just one person.
709
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:21.000
You know.
710
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.359
I just saw so the people that were good at
711
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.480
it were making so much money and I was making
712
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:28.079
so no money.
713
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.359
You were taking you were taking the bus to work.
714
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.920
And then eventually my brother got good enough to where
715
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.920
like he started his own like his own his own team,
716
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:38.680
his own team.
717
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:40.480
So then he's my boss.
718
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.119
And then and then it's like even more highlighted that
719
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.160
it's like, oh wow, so he's the one that's good
720
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.279
at it and you're you're not.
721
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.039
It's just it's just oh.
722
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.160
Wow, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around
723
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.799
a new job that exists, and it's it's legit podcast,
724
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.079
But is it not. That's been a job. It's been
725
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:03.000
a job since twenty jealous Yeah, yeah, full times, it's
726
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:11.720
twenty ten. Uh, influencer. We all like, we all kind
727
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.519
of like roll our eyes and go, come on, influencer black,
728
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.480
get a real job. And people say that in the
729
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:21.119
comments too. They're like, dude, and like there's also a
730
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.319
wide range because we would be considered influencers, right, Yeah,
731
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119
Well it started weird, like you just famous for being famous,
732
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.599
but people like your personality and they like watching your videos,
733
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.880
and so when you say this is a cool product
734
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.319
that I use, people buy it. Well that's called I mean,
735
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:41.880
we did that on radio and TV for years and
736
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.599
nobody talked shit to them. They were celebrated, right, But
737
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.519
now that it's a twenty three year old girl alone
738
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:51.000
in her apartment and she's clicking her fingernails on some
739
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.960
press ons, you're like, what a what an idiot? No,
740
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.960
she's doing the same thing she's she's selling.
741
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.119
And so what is she selling?
742
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:58.480
Uh?
743
00:31:58.519 --> 00:31:59.680
Well, different products?
744
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.359
Okay, so they have sponsors because she just does this
745
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:03.880
thing that so many people love to watch.
746
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:04.400
Yeah.
747
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.720
Interesting, Yeah, and so what gets crazy about it is
748
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.680
I'll be scrolling through like doom, scrolling TikTok in the
749
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.079
middle of the night, and I'll scroll past someone going
750
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.839
do it. I know we've all seen it, going h
751
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:23.079
thank you, thank you, thank you. What they're doing. What
752
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.160
they're doing is so dumb. But basically, when you're on
753
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.720
TikTok live, I can gift I have to load my
754
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:31.440
money up.
755
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.319
I don't know the name of that thing.
756
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.000
So I can gift you. Let's just call it like
757
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.319
a banana. Let's say I can give you a banana.
758
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.960
And let's say the banana is four dollars, so it'll
759
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.400
represents money. It represents money. But what happens is you
760
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.359
you you have to load your account up with say
761
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.440
a hundred bucks, and then you go, I want to
762
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.079
I would like to give this guy money. Well, you
763
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.160
would never want to give me money. What's the point, right,
764
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.160
But when you scroll on and you see and let's
765
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.599
say I'm not a guy. Let's say I'm a cute
766
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.519
young woman, and and you see that when you when
767
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.480
someone gives an ice cream cone for four dollars and
768
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.359
ninety nine cents, which costs about five cost you about
769
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:11.079
five bucks to give, she goes thank you, and then
770
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:12.759
she just sits in there like this, and then you're
771
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.440
like and then you go, and then you go, and
772
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.680
then you just go gift ice cream and she goes
773
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.440
thank you, and you're like wait, and then and then
774
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.519
you go just like whatever. Sometimes they do little.
775
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.200
Kid keether, infinite amount of weirdos men and women. There's
776
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.279
a different Each gift that you give is worth a
777
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.920
different phrase or something that they might even have listed
778
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:34.400
on the screen.
779
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.519
And then let's say you give a dinosaur, the dinosaur
780
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.440
comes across the screen and she goes raw.
781
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.799
Yeah, that's it. But here's the thing.
782
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.440
It sounds ridiculous, right, and I want to look at it.
783
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.039
Right. There were people making money off dude.
784
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.160
There's this one chick. I don't even know her name.
785
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.559
She she's bilingual, she does English and Spanish. Sometimes I
786
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.359
will watch just because you're in awe, what's happening? I'm
787
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.680
in awe. And I'm also I'm like, she, this is work,
788
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.200
this is hard. I've done TikTok lives before. I've never
789
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.519
done that, but I've done TikTok lives before. Y'all know,
790
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.119
being live in front of an audience, being on for
791
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.119
an hour is draining. It's a lot out of your system.
792
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.400
She'll go for three or four hours.
793
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:18.679
It's like some weird Simon says.
794
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:23.239
And also she's remembering an action for every single gift,
795
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:26.440
and there's like fifty or sixty different options.
796
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.079
Right, Yeah, there's what it's like.
797
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.679
When you see the lift, she knows it's a dinosaur.
798
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.400
So she has a thing she does for dinosaurs. What
799
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.599
I'm saying is she's got it all memorized. She knows
800
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.599
what to do. She doesn't change what she does in between,
801
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.400
and so part of me is like, this is so stupid.
802
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.360
This is not a job, this is ridiculous. But then
803
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.239
I'm going, it's entertainment.
804
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.920
It's entertainment, and it's working.
805
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.360
People are looking at her, going this is dumb, this
806
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:47.920
is weird.
807
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.199
Forget, but I don't want to money. Yeah, you get
808
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.199
there even giving money. They're like, I'm not giving you money.
809
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.599
Well, here's what people do though, here's the thing. Then
810
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.800
you scroll through, going, I wonder what the birthday cake
811
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.039
is gonna do because no one's done that. And then
812
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.119
you look down and then you look down and you go, oh,
813
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.000
the birthday cakes fifth coming. You're like, it's fifteen bucks
814
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.639
and then you go, fuck it, it's fifteen bucks, so
815
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.000
you do it, and then she's like, happy birthday to me,
816
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.239
and then she's back to doing shit and you're like, oh,
817
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.840
that was the birthday thing. It's a curiosity thing to me,
818
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.199
and it's entertaining.
819
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.679
A very because of my age, like a premise for
820
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:23.199
a scary movie about the future.
821
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.599
And some people will even do things that are more
822
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:31.840
embarrassing because they're like they're willing to be feel shame.
823
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.480
There's a guy like I'm tired, Like I'll see sometimes
824
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.440
someone will post a video that says I'm live right now,
825
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:41.800
and then the video will be.
826
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.199
Like stop joining my live.
827
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.599
Every person that sends a banana means I gotta dunk
828
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.599
my head in this in this jaw this thing of
829
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.519
ice cream or something like something weird.
830
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.960
And there's just like what you there's a team of
831
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.079
there's a team of Asian dudes that sleep that are
832
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.679
like laying on this like this little thin mattress in
833
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.239
the floor, and every gift, whether it's a five cent
834
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.599
rows or a two hundred dollars thing, there's a little
835
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.559
horn next to the bed. And he goes yeah, and
836
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.440
he's just like come on and you're just like for
837
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:19.920
a nickel and he's just like boop and this dude,
838
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.679
and you watch it and I've never seen anything, dude,
839
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.480
And then you get but these guys will have five
840
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.199
six hundred people in the live just people are just
841
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.079
irritating these guys, and I'm like, you're you're playing into it.
842
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.119
It's it's it's really fascinating.
843
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.039
And you said something about shame and embarrassment. I don't
844
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.599
think that. I think that's going away. I don't think
845
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.199
people have shame or embarrassment anymore. Look at the look
846
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.480
at these influencers that walk down the street and do
847
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.039
in public and do what they think are pranks.
848
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.599
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna chime in
849
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.440
when he was when he was talking about there's a
850
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.519
guy that does all of the like ice cream licking
851
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.760
and stuff. He does all that in public. He'll do
852
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.039
it on like a major walkway. He sets up a
853
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.639
tripod and people are walking behind him and he's doing
854
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.159
the But the point is that, the point is I
855
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.920
want this guy. It's it's what it's doing. Though, here's
856
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.639
a new, an interesting way to think about it. It's
857
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:16.519
actually cashing in on the audience's bullying. They're like, Oh,
858
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.199
you want me to look dumb, I'll do it for
859
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.519
five bucks. And so you're like, yeah, act like you're
860
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.760
eating a banana in public. Now, lick the ice cream
861
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:26.920
cone now, and so you're just like doing it. But
862
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.360
he's getting your he's getting your money from.
863
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.079
It, and the people that are doing it are growing
864
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.159
up like it's such a weird way to teach.
865
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.000
Someone to care what other people think. Let me ask
866
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:36.519
you what a.
867
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.480
Weird way to teach a child not to care what
868
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.480
people think? Going public and embarrassers.
869
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.559
Yeah, there's this other thing that I witnessed in the
870
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.320
real world. I r L. My wife and I were
871
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:51.840
walking up walking into Costco and there was a woman
872
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.880
set up with a ring light, three different phones yep,
873
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:02.440
and products going loudly in Asian whatever when she was Asian,
874
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.400
but he just she was speaking.
875
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:05.400
I don't know what it was.
876
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.679
It was Chinese something weird, you know what.
877
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.360
I was Asian as opposed to this, as opposed to
878
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.280
this podcast where we're where we're speaking what.
879
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.079
We're speaking normal? Have you seen those games speaking? Have
880
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.639
seen those memes? You could either be this this or
881
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.079
normal and the normal the white person.
882
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.480
Oh god, I've not seen that.
883
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.280
Oh it's bad surprising. See I'm joking.
884
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.880
But anyway, she's yelling loudly about the products. Yeah, and
885
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.960
I go, what is I was like, my fifty five
886
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.519
year old brain couldn't understand. I'm like, what is happening
887
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.599
right now? We're in public. My wife has more of
888
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.960
an understanding for internet ship and she's like, oh, she's
889
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:44.400
doing product reviews.
890
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.159
Well, it's product reviews, but it's also uh TikTok live,
891
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.800
so you can go live on TikTok and sell products
892
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.280
and just make tons of cash.
893
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.960
This whole building she bought. But is she buying it
894
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.639
in the store and then coming outside with him going
895
00:38:58.679 --> 00:38:59.280
I just bought this.
896
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.199
You can buy Yeah, she's probably she's she could be
897
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.599
doing product reviews because she's inside Costco. She probably works
898
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.679
for Costco getting people to buy stuff online from Costco.
899
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.159
That people, and listen, when we leave here, you're gonna
900
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.079
see it in real life. This this building is filled
901
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.239
with people like squeezing drills and going, come on, guys, hey,
902
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.320
my good job, thanks for doing that, buddy, did you
903
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.800
buy one? Get that extra battery? There you go, Hey,
904
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.480
there's Stephanie.
905
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.519
There's QVC like shops like there's people that their whole
906
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.480
existence in life they're making. There's people making a lot
907
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.000
of money where they're just reviewing. They're like, all right,
908
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.639
today's the last day of the sale, guys. If you
909
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.920
click right now, you can get it just in time
910
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.800
for whatever the next holiday is.
911
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:44.599
That's what the sale is for.
912
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.360
Jason, Dude.
913
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.599
So much money it's made, That's why it makes me sad.
914
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.039
I'd be usually i'd be like, you go for it's cool,
915
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.239
but I don't know, it's it's I'm sorry. First of all,
916
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:59.400
I'm I'm an age where I prefer to go into
917
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.199
the store.
918
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.800
And being able and not and they don't have the
919
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:04.519
thing in stock, and then you're like, I should have
920
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:05.320
bought this on Amazon.
921
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.519
Stores are places where I see what exists for me
922
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:09.719
to then buy online.
923
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:12.840
Store is like a physical online.
924
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.519
I'm not like so many pairs of shoes online. But
925
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.599
it's because I know my size and I know what.
926
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.280
I know how my foot feels in a Nike and
927
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.440
I'm a big Nike guy, so I've done that. I
928
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.159
do that, But like a sweater or a jacket, I'm like,
929
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.280
so nervous that I'm gonna get this thing home. And
930
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.480
here's where I'm out of touch is because I'm like,
931
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.199
what if it comes home and it doesn't fit? My
932
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.519
wife's like, you return.
933
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.039
The same day, the same day, and you don't even
934
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.039
need the boss. By the way, you could just drop
935
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.920
it off at a whole foot What is this witchcraft?
936
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.199
But I'm slowly getting better.
937
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:46.599
You're old.
938
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:48.639
You're so proud of myself.
939
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.159
When I returned something at the Whole Foods.
940
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.800
I was like, I just did am I gen z?
941
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:55.079
What were you saying?
942
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.119
I was just saying, like they've They've made it so
943
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.840
easy now to where it's like, oh no, I'll buy
944
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.360
five pairs of shoes because I don't know which size
945
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.559
it's gonna be yep, And then I'll return all four
946
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.480
of them and then they're gonna throw them all away.
947
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:08.239
They're probably not.
948
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.920
They make so much money that so they've even made
949
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.800
the there's even people that make money. There's even like
950
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.719
side businesses of just the stuff that's returned that they
951
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.159
can't resell, where there's people that bid on bins. There's
952
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.760
like bin stores, oh yeses, And my dad wanted to
953
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.960
get into that of like, everything in this bin is
954
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.559
this amount of money, and on different days there's different
955
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.880
There's phone cases for a dollar that used to cost
956
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.159
twenty five bucks on Amazon.
957
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.800
Now they like these garbage islands in the ocean that
958
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:37.880
are just garbage.
959
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.280
Yep, crazy yep.
960
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.920
So imagine, So let's say you do let's say you
961
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.639
do a TikTok and you're like, hey, guys, I had
962
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.559
this thought about this thing, and people laugh, and then
963
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.599
you're like, you get somebody to go, dude, where do
964
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.480
you get your glasses? I fucking love your glasses And
965
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.199
you're like, oh, I get them from this store, and
966
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.400
then somebody else comments to these glasses are so dope.
967
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.039
I've looked for ones that do this and this and this,
968
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.559
and I really like the way, like I want those
969
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.559
two and you're like, huh, it's only got a thousand
970
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.480
views on the video, but forty people out of the
971
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.960
thousand asked about my glasses. And let's say you bought
972
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.360
your glasses from an online retailer, and now it's like okay,
973
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.920
so rather than you just saying, oh, I buy them
974
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.679
at this place and then they go and get them,
975
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.440
what if you could earn a commission on that right.
976
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:28.119
So now that retailer connects with TikTok and goes, here's
977
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.440
a link where people can buy directly from us, and
978
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.480
you're like, I already own that product. So now you
979
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.519
do another video. But at the end of the video
980
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.000
you get ready to post it. There's a thing to
981
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.800
tag a product. So now you tag a product that's
982
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.079
your glasses, and for everybody that buys those glasses, you
983
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.079
get six bucks. Oh yeah, So then you have a
984
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.159
video that gets two hundred thousand views and four hundred
985
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:55.559
people buy those glasses.
986
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:57.000
You're doing all right?
987
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.559
And then you do two or three posts a day
988
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.159
and you tag products.
989
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:03.679
That's insane.
990
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.360
And that's one of the things that's overwhelming for me
991
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.079
because of how I started doing this entertainment thing. Those
992
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.920
numbers are crazy to me. To me, I'm like, dude,
993
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.679
there's a hundred people in the audience. That's crazy.
994
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.639
Now nothing.
995
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.079
If you get one hundred views on the video, you
996
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:17.760
delete it.
997
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:24.840
Quite see, all I'm hearing is like for me, if
998
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.719
I posted a video that I thought was I was
999
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.920
really proud of it, thought was really funny, and all
1000
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.880
people are doing is commented on my glasses.
1001
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:31.400
And be like, what the fuck.
1002
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.320
What about what about the joke?
1003
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:34.239
What's the joke funny?
1004
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.119
Well, I'd be pissed off that they're commenting about my glasses.
1005
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.960
I don't give a fuck like the joke, the joke
1006
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.400
laugh by tickets, you're still the old school by tickets mentality.
1007
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.679
And it's just sometimes and I think you and I
1008
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.639
have had the conversation David Worth. That's not translating a lot.
1009
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.159
Your millions of views here aren't My millions of yous
1010
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:56.679
here aren't equally millions.
1011
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:01.960
Of so So the thing with that is the these
1012
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.599
conglomerates like TikTok, like Amazon, they want you to perform.
1013
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.039
They want you to be the dancing monkey. They do
1014
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.599
not want you to have your own audience. They don't
1015
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.119
want you to have access to the audience. So they
1016
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.360
want you to pay them to advertise to your own followers.
1017
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.960
So you could have you could have video. I've got
1018
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:26.199
videos with thirty forty sixty million views, but then I post, hey,
1019
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.039
guys will be in Sacramento next week. Even with almost
1020
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.519
two million followers, that video will get maybe twelve hundred
1021
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.760
views because the algorithm goes, oh, this is an ad
1022
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.239
that we're not being paid for so they just like
1023
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.320
shadow ban it away from people so that they can't
1024
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.920
see it. And so the problem is when you do say, okay, fine,
1025
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.159
I will pay you for access to my own followers,
1026
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.159
you can do it, but they right now they don't
1027
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.800
have the ability to say people who follow me who
1028
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.840
are also in sacrament So you end up going people
1029
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.320
in Sacramento who are fans of stand up. So then
1030
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.440
you're paying to these people and they yeah, and I
1031
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.320
had a whole video about it too, where and then
1032
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.159
they see and they go, and so all the comments
1033
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.519
end up being what the hell are you doing on
1034
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:14.880
my screen? Who the hell is this guy?
1035
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.239
I gotta guess what.
1036
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.480
Meanwhile, famous comedians in people in that city like right, like,
1037
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.000
I don't know, maybe somebody that likes Mark Norman, Dave Chappelle.
1038
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.039
I I have to guess what fucking interest? So then wouver.
1039
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.000
So then I go to Sacramento, go to do a
1040
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.360
two hundred and fifty seat venue and sell one hundred
1041
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.960
and twenty tickets and they're like, you didn't sell out,
1042
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.920
but it's okay, and hold on, let me finish that.
1043
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.280
I don't want to put that out in the world,
1044
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.159
and I just do that. So I do that, and
1045
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.480
then as I'm leaving. As I'm leaving, I'm like, hey,
1046
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:50.400
I'll be in Dallas Fort Worth next weekend. Because I'm
1047
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.760
in Sacramento. While I'm posting this, I'll get seventy or
1048
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.440
eighty comments and dms when do you come into Sacramento?
1049
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.639
And I'm just like, God, this fucking algorithm. Why can't
1050
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.519
I say people who follow me who were already in
1051
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.440
Sacramento with one point eight million I've already done my
1052
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.360
analytics on my breakdown with one point eight million followers
1053
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.519
on TikTok. And that's not even counting Instagram with one
1054
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.440
point eight million on TikTok. Some of my lowest cities
1055
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.400
when I just go down to like Detroit, fifteen thousand
1056
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.039
of my followers are just in Detroit. Just about any
1057
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.679
major city in the country, it's gonna be between eight
1058
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:32.079
to twenty thousand people in these cities. And I'm like,
1059
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.880
I could I could sell out an entire weekend and
1060
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.079
have waiting lists if TikTok let me advertise.
1061
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.639
And to people give them this.
1062
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.519
Absolutely, I've told them. I've told them that I'm like,
1063
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.639
I will pay you just add and they even have
1064
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.639
a blank space when you're trying to buy the ad,
1065
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.360
there's a spot that nothing's there. And I'm like, just
1066
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.320
you know who follows me? Just add that also only
1067
00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:01.519
target people who already know who I am. Yeah, so yes, yes, Jason.
1068
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.119
What about the guys that are selling out that are
1069
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.920
Internet there for them?
1070
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.079
They're funny, they're better than me?
1071
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.320
No, no, no, no, that's not true at all.
1072
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:12.079
No, I don't know.
1073
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.039
I think part of listen seriously, there's there are people.
1074
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.239
Yeah, I've talked to club people owners that said play sold.
1075
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.400
Out, it was a terrible show. Oh why for some people? Well,
1076
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.800
let me clarify. I do sell out a lot of
1077
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.440
my shows. I'm not saying that's the case.
1078
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:29.079
I get it.
1079
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.880
I sell out a bunch of the shows I sold
1080
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.280
out right right now, right.
1081
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.480
But these New Jackson I'm saying a randomly like that
1082
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.800
chick who had the meltdown posted the video of her
1083
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.119
having a meltdown on stage where she like yelled at the.
1084
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.039
Yeah, that's got millions of followers and she's selling out.
1085
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.239
I don't know who booked Everywhere girl with Tattoos. I
1086
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:49.960
can't remember her name.
1087
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.159
I don't remember her name, but I just she screamed
1088
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.280
at a guy and he was like, I don't think
1089
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.000
you're funny. I don't like there's no joke or something.
1090
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.800
She's like, get the fuck out.
1091
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.800
And if you read the comments, most of them were
1092
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:04.599
not on her side.
1093
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:06.719
That thing it is so loud.
1094
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.159
I don't know, why do you do that? I don't know.
1095
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.639
Every time he talks, he grabbed like the distance from
1096
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.039
my mouth to thell.
1097
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:14.119
He'll he'll handle that.
1098
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.079
And just like that's the crazy thing is that just
1099
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.679
being known doesn't even matter good or bad. It's more
1100
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.000
likely to get people to come out somehow because it's
1101
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.519
like there's people that aren't even known as stand up
1102
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.599
there's people that are funny doing sketches online.
1103
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:37.280
That were so famous that they would do people would people.
1104
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.280
And I've been to some of these before where I
1105
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.239
just remember like at the at the Cleveland Improv, where
1106
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.199
it was like everybody came to see this person they
1107
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.719
did fifteen minutes at the end, yeah, they and and
1108
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.760
they had and so I'll tell you the rest was actual.
1109
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.360
Stand up comedians.
1110
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.719
And the person that that they all came to see
1111
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.159
was the was the worst of the entire part.
1112
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.039
It was just yep, so a lot a lot of
1113
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.480
times people follow you for very specific reasons, and a
1114
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.320
lot of my followers came for the dad stuff. They
1115
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.760
like that I'm a dad, They're connected with that. They
1116
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.760
think I'm funny, but they they're in their minds, they're like,
1117
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.559
are you gonna come to the to the show? And
1118
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.239
like make your daughter a snack? Like what are you doing?
1119
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.840
And so there's a smaller percentage of people that will
1120
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.599
buy tickets. So there are some cities where I can
1121
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.559
sell out, no problem in the cities where I do okay,
1122
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.719
where I'm not selling out, but I'm also not like
1123
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.440
I'm not they're not canceling shows for ticket sales. But
1124
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.639
also it's like I could do so much better if
1125
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.039
I had these other tools. It's because they they they
1126
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.920
follow me for a different reason. And there are a
1127
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.719
lot of sketch comedy guys. I don't want to name names,
1128
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.960
but people have gotten really popular online. They're funny and
1129
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.960
they're good comics. But then there's this moment of like,
1130
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.679
you're playing two characters, yeah, and then we follow you
1131
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:56.360
for that how you're playing.
1132
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:57.400
These two characters?
1133
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.960
And then and then when they show up to buy
1134
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.920
tickets They're like, I don't what I was expecting. This
1135
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:03.159
is just a guy on stage doing stand up. I
1136
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.039
want to see you do your characters. Well you can't.
1137
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.960
You can't have a face filter on. You can't become
1138
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:08.840
this person.
1139
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.320
Even on a famous level. People like forget like I've
1140
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.840
opened for Steve O and seeing an audience just like
1141
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.119
watching real time them just be disappointed that he wasn't
1142
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.079
gonna staple his nuts to a piece of paper or something,
1143
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.599
and it was like, no, he was, Yeah, he was
1144
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:26.519
just gonna be a dude talking into a microphone.
1145
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.800
And that's that makes me feel so bad for Steve.
1146
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:30.760
Just stand up.
1147
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.239
Yeah, he just wanted to do stand up.
1148
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.079
Danny found the clip that you that you.
1149
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.679
Were talking about.
1150
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.119
I gotta see that. I haven't seen it.
1151
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.960
Oh god, what happens?
1152
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.199
Natalie Cuomo is her name?
1153
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.280
Okay, go ahead, no?
1154
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.480
No? No? The office?
1155
00:50:47.840 --> 00:51:08.079
Yeah yeah, okay, wait what do you want to ask him?
1156
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.800
Oh it's not that wow, You're it's not that wow.
1157
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:12.280
Look at you.
1158
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:13.840
I can leave right now.
1159
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:22.960
A us and get nothing. I see.
1160
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.039
So you were afraid because like I felt like I
1161
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:35.360
was saying, he's your new friends.
1162
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.639
Yeah, funny Emerson for you.
1163
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.480
She doesn't seem like she's I'm not gonna hate on her,
1164
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.320
she doesn't seem she has the experience, I mean.
1165
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.679
A whole lot. And then and this is another thing
1166
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.719
that I just I just don't understand. Not a single
1167
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.239
joke was told. It's like these some of these people. Look,
1168
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.239
if you want to be a crowd work comic, have
1169
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.159
something ready, don't ask a hundred questions before you get
1170
00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.360
to one terrible joke.
1171
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:00.519
You ready.
1172
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.599
And they should not call themselves stand up comics, stand
1173
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.039
up interviewers. Maybe yeah, because it's it I hate to
1174
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:06.960
stand up in terraga.
1175
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.559
Well, I don't know if that's all she does. I've
1176
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.519
never heard of. This is my only clip I've.
1177
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:11.000
Ever seen her.
1178
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.920
My rant wasn't even gonna be about her specifically at all.
1179
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.800
It's just when crowd work used to be just literal
1180
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:20.719
crowd work, where where you were telling jokes and then
1181
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.400
something happened to organically in the audience and you found
1182
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.719
a way to weave that into the jokes you already had. Right,
1183
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.679
And maybe you go on a tangent so long you
1184
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.559
never even have to get back to the jokes. That's fine,
1185
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.280
but that's so much different than just having questions of
1186
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.400
like where do you work, what do you do well?
1187
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:41.880
But you also also all of us immediately recognized even
1188
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.239
if we've all been in a situation where you start
1189
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.440
talking to somebody and then you feel the energy leave
1190
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.920
the room. You're realizing you don't have anything. Yeah, the
1191
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.400
worst case scenario, you move on. No, no, no, the
1192
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.679
worst case you just move on. Because sometimes someone will
1193
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:57.599
talk to you and you respond and you're like, you
1194
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.760
can tell this isn't gonna be funny. You move on.
1195
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.039
You worked away into material. But if you don't have
1196
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.440
material fall back on, because you have been writing comedy
1197
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.639
for eight, nine, ten, fifteen, twelve years, you don't have
1198
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.719
that experience. You just you're stuck in the conversation.
1199
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.880
Now we haven't even gotten to the meltdown yet. I know.
1200
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:16.199
I'm just impressed with the algorithm that this was able
1201
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.960
to go viral with when when we're posting jokes and
1202
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.519
we're like, I gotta I gotta show the punchline in
1203
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.159
the first two seconds, because otherwise they won't have the
1204
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.559
attention span to even be like, they need to know
1205
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.280
that it's funny before they watch it.
1206
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.360
What is the title? What is the title of the
1207
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.320
video Danny me uncut version of okay. So they put
1208
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.280
comedian in quote, so they're already. Okay, they're already they're
1209
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.320
already hating on her yet.
1210
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.880
Okay. Oh so this didn't go viral from her posting it.
1211
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:47.360
No, I I found out about it because tyri Vera
1212
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.760
posted about it, and and Ty was like going back
1213
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.760
and forth with her because she because he saw it
1214
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.119
on her feet or something like that where she posted it.
1215
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.280
I don't know. She seems you gotta okay, No.
1216
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:02.679
I haven't seen that. Let's let's go.
1217
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.880
Yeah, let's move on him.
1218
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:09.559
I'm saying that.
1219
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.119
Say this like, it is such a hard time in
1220
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.000
this world right now. There are so many people that
1221
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.480
came together to be supportive and fucking amazing, and you're
1222
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.559
putting negative No fucking look me nice, you're putting negative fucking.
1223
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:28.719
Agrophy out here.
1224
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:30.679
The last one, look.
1225
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.119
The last time, the last on my fucking weekend is
1226
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.639
a souldout show. And you want to say, mean ship
1227
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:40.880
to me.
1228
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.159
Okay, don't fucking do.
1229
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:44.039
That, bro.
1230
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.639
Brod that that's not the way to handle it.
1231
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:59.320
Happen's about to cry. It's insane. Please stop.
1232
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.119
Time out Okay, beautiful girl, I'm about to be my age,
1233
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:08.840
show my age right now. This girl doesn't have enough
1234
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.440
people in her life to tell her, no, what just happened.
1235
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:16.119
Oh she's so mad because that didn't agree with her.
1236
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.280
She said, people came here to be to be supportive
1237
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:21.920
and positive. People came here to last.
1238
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.039
Yeah, ye, nobody. That's a new thing too.
1239
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:25.719
If you want, if you want to if you want
1240
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:28.239
a supportive audience, go go to a support group, go
1241
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:29.800
fall into a trust circle.
1242
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.239
People that come to be supportive are when I have
1243
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.199
all of my friends and family and the audience. When
1244
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.119
when you bring the audience into close circle, then they
1245
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:42.679
come to be supportive, or if maybe if you have fans.
1246
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.960
Here's the thing, there's a there's a way that she
1247
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.840
could handle that that that would have been very impressed
1248
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.360
with and respected.
1249
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.519
But what that told me is she felt threatened.
1250
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:56.880
She felt like, oh, they just called me out because
1251
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.440
apparently he says she's not funny, and that.
1252
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:01.440
I didn't hear him say that.
1253
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:02.239
What I heard.
1254
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.119
What I heard him say was you can't just roast
1255
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.599
me without getting some back. And my response would have been,
1256
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.280
that's exactly what the fuck I can do. I have
1257
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.880
a microphone. I'm the professional comedian. I would have responded
1258
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.280
that way, and she just but what.
1259
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.800
Happened was if you listen to it. She said it
1260
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.519
very quickly and very subtly before she went into her
1261
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:24.920
little crazy rant. And then because he started defending himself,
1262
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.599
she said because she had no joke, she was bombing
1263
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.639
the situation. Her go to was, we got some small
1264
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:33.559
dick energy over here, right right.
1265
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.159
And of course the guys are like, what ye did
1266
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.719
I do to me? The issue isn't to me.
1267
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.039
The reason that stuff like this happens is one of
1268
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.639
the negative sides of just social media in general, because
1269
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.119
when I started, the only reason that you would ever
1270
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:53.239
even record your set is for only the purpose.
1271
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.360
To study, to give to study, give to a booker. Right,
1272
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:57.039
that was it.
1273
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.280
There was no showing strangers that because the mindset as well,
1274
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.360
if I post it, then I can't do those jokes again.
1275
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.719
And the whole goal is to work on a set.
1276
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.639
And you know that that was the whole purpose of it.
1277
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.000
So you have people that because of social media they
1278
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.760
feel so and because there's comedians that are being famous
1279
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.760
from I Saw You Funny in that thirty second clip,
1280
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:18.679
so now I'm gonna pay money.
1281
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.880
To see you do an hour, which is insane.
1282
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:25.000
So because it seems so easy to be at that
1283
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.760
big level, you have comedians that are like going at
1284
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.800
a faster pace where it's like I don't even know
1285
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.400
if I don't know her specifically, I have.
1286
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.159
No longer, no idea how long she's been doing it.
1287
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.800
But I've just seen so many comedians where I'm like,
1288
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.800
I don't even know if you should even be You
1289
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:39.159
should be recording on your phone.
1290
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.119
There's nothing for you. You shouldn't be showing this yet.
1291
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:44.639
You got to work on the skill.
1292
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.199
Before you show it to have because like some great
1293
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:49.800
weight loss journey. Yes, look at me while I'm at
1294
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.119
my worst, and then as I improve, I'll get better.
1295
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.119
No show us when you're good, man, like you know what.
1296
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.280
I mean, or at least this is stay hidden.
1297
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.480
Nobody could even book a show or even run their
1298
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.159
own show unless they were good. Like when I started,
1299
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.760
nobody even ran a show that was new at comedy.
1300
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.440
Now you got new people that are running comedy, booking rooms,
1301
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:13.559
teaching us online.
1302
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:17.119
Teaching comedy, teaching comedy. There's just on all forms. Because
1303
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.119
it just seems so easy and accessible.
1304
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.000
If she keeps going, she's gonna be a good comic.
1305
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.360
And here's why I say that, because it, like everything else,
1306
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.960
it's reps. Yeah, the more you do something better. But
1307
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:28.840
what happened is the new thing and you touched on
1308
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.559
it is that we used to when we started stand up.
1309
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.960
We built the act, then we built the following. Now
1310
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.719
it's flipped. Yeah, people are getting this big following and
1311
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.320
now their act has to catch up to this following.
1312
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:44.119
The only way I'm going to make any money is
1313
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.159
if I go to headlining these clubs and make my money.
1314
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.199
But I'm not ready for that forty five minute set yet.
1315
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.559
A perfect example, and this before the whole social media
1316
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.159
thing happened, is Michael Yo, who's a buddy of mine
1317
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.440
and I love him. He kind of blew up because
1318
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.039
of the Chelsea Handler show and he wanted and he
1319
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.719
started doing stand up because Shell he was a guest
1320
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:04.920
on the show because he did radio.
1321
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.559
He was like a radio person. Oh yeah, and he was.
1322
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.239
He was always on the show with them, and and
1323
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.199
then he one time said I want to try comedy,
1324
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.000
and both Joe coy And and Chelsea were like really, and
1325
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.320
they got gave him not to start, and he ended
1326
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.320
up loving stand up. But like any new comic, you
1327
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.559
got to build that fucking undeniable five, then build the
1328
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.639
Undernibal ten. But then he started getting headlining gigs before
1329
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:29.360
he had that. So what he was going to do
1330
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:30.719
what he was doing, and he did it with me
1331
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:32.760
several times, is he goes, I want you to come
1332
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.920
close out. He was having the Michael Yowen friends. But
1333
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.800
he wasn't closing it out. He wasn't he was hiring us.
1334
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.679
I did the same thays out the show, and apparently
1335
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.920
some of the clubs said bro or his agents or
1336
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.920
reps or somebody said, you gotta headline your own you
1337
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.079
gotta close out your own shows. And then he built
1338
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.400
an act and of course he threw stuff in there
1339
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.199
that did you know, ate up some time, like he
1340
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:55.480
did a PowerPoint thing and all that.
1341
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.679
But here's the thing that what I did. I had
1342
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.159
an audience when I started stand up, and I didn't
1343
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:04.280
tell them. I had enough sense to know they were
1344
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.840
following me for a different podcast I was doing. I
1345
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:11.880
was doing serious debate stuff on a podcast called Dogma Debate,
1346
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.159
where I was doing religious and politics, and every now
1347
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.800
and then a funny moment would happen, but that was
1348
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.920
a separate audience. I worked on my stand up in
1349
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.719
secret and built those reps and figured that out, and
1350
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.079
then when it was time to go, you know what,
1351
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.280
I've got some decent stuff. I'm gonna put clips out.
1352
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.840
What I started doing is playing audio snippets on my
1353
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.719
podcast as an intro, like a thirty second intro. People
1354
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.599
were like, oh, you do stand up. Oh that's cool,
1355
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.800
you do comedy. And slowly but surely I introduced that audience.
1356
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.199
So even when I could have blasted it out to
1357
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.440
hundreds of thousands of podcast listeners, I was like, I'm
1358
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.679
not that good yet. I didn't feel like I was ready.
1359
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.679
People that know your religious takes to be like hackling
1360
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:51.400
like from the.
1361
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:55.880
Playoffs, talk about Jesus, right, But also you're of a generation.
1362
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:57.400
That didn't do participation trophies.
1363
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.960
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like this, this participation
1364
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.159
I'm here, Where's my reward is a big thing?
1365
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.440
Right now? Big thing right now?
1366
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.400
Okay, So you know, I want to go back to
1367
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.599
your story for the tales you were telling our friend
1368
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:16.039
Russell Peters, he blew up kind of overnight, so to speak.
1369
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.800
On YouTube and and that was like oh, three oh
1370
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.360
four something like that. And he told me he wasn't
1371
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.719
able to write fast enough for the way his audience
1372
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.119
was growing. So that's why he started doing crowd work
1373
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:30.480
out of necessity.
1374
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.239
Like he but he's got a quick brain, and he's
1375
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:32.760
a funny guy.
1376
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.239
Yes, he's very good at it. And and and the
1377
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.760
the interesting thing to me is when I before, I
1378
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.440
before I saw him live for the first time, I
1379
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.000
would watch his these crowd work specials he would do,
1380
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:47.119
and I just I didn't enjoy them.
1381
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:48.559
Do you enjoy anything?
1382
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:48.760
No?
1383
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.360
But I mean I didn't enjoy him because crowd crowd
1384
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.119
work doesn't work on TV, like Ian Bag will tell
1385
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:54.400
you that.
1386
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.360
And how good does crowds work work in the size
1387
01:01:57.400 --> 01:01:58.880
of venus he's doing?
1388
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.239
Yeah, And and but like when I saw Russell live
1389
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.400
for the first time, it's like, oh, now I get it.
1390
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:04.880
Now I understand everything.
1391
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:05.719
He fixed it.
1392
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.760
He he has camera guys and giant screens and when
1393
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.679
he goes into the crowd there it's it's a whole thing.
1394
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:14.559
The people can see who's to go right.
1395
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.840
On to the person. They're giant on the screen. But again,
1396
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:20.679
he you said he blew up in about three o four. Right, Yeah,
1397
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.239
he started doing stand up in eighty nine. So we
1398
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.880
are we're of this, of this, of this generation. I
1399
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.159
don't know what you want to call it. Well, you
1400
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:28.920
build the thing, you build, you build the thing. You
1401
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.440
don't just He's like, it's like what we did in
1402
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:34.039
comedy was like going to college for comedy because you
1403
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.840
started a level and you go through the years and
1404
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.360
you do the thing if if. In other words, you
1405
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.360
can't just walk into the O R and perform surgery.
1406
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:43.559
There's so much you have to do before that.
1407
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.760
Here's where here's where my brain went when you said
1408
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:48.079
walk into the R.
1409
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:52.559
I was thinking of comedy. Here's here's the thing I noticed.
1410
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.079
And I'm sure we've all experienced this. When you first
1411
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.920
start going, I think I could do stand up, and
1412
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.119
then you write, and then you get on stage and
1413
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:00.880
you say that stuff. You're like, God, it's taking me
1414
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.119
a long time to get to that punchline and it wasn't.
1415
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:04.639
Really worth it.
1416
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.840
Let me trim the fat, and so you get less
1417
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.519
words and then you try it again and go, oh,
1418
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:11.360
it got a bigger pop because they didn't have to
1419
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.719
wait so long. And so you start learning to squeeze
1420
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.480
out what you thought was a three minutes that's a
1421
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.800
forty second bit. And then you do that again, and
1422
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.599
then you do that again, and they're just compacting it
1423
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:24.800
tighter and tighter, but you're also training your brain to
1424
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.800
write immediately, and so then you get your first fifteen.
1425
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.679
That second fifteen comes faster because now you're starting to
1426
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.079
write and you're only doing one trim the fat and
1427
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.920
you go. You can immediately recognize what to trim years
1428
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:41.000
and years of reps doing it. You start realizing on
1429
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.519
stage in the moment somebody says something and you spit
1430
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.280
out the finished version of that response, and your brain
1431
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.840
is doing it so quick. Russell Peters. Russell Peters did
1432
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.360
that from eighty nine to three, so by the time,
1433
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:56.760
so not only is his writing getting better, his crowd
1434
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.440
works getting better. And just to put a button back
1435
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.280
on Natalie, she hasn't taken the time to hone those
1436
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.239
skills to learn to trim that fat. So like you said,
1437
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.440
if she keeps going, she's going to be ridiculously good and.
1438
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:11.760
To go on.
1439
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.079
I agree that that crowd work doesn't like translate as
1440
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.159
well unless you're there live.
1441
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.239
But I also think that A.
1442
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.719
Big part of it is because the best, in my opinion,
1443
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.119
the people that are the best at crowd work are
1444
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:34.119
not always the people that have the patience, finances, or
1445
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.800
opportunity to have it recorded every night in a club
1446
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.280
with a bunch of people. They're doing hole in the
1447
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.840
wall spots and or they're doing it. It's like the
1448
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.960
people that I know that are the best at it,
1449
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.280
I think it absolutely would translate on TV. I just
1450
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.239
think that the people that sometimes they pick are like, Oh,
1451
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.840
that wasn't that's that's crowd work ish.
1452
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:56.000
Let me tell you why I think it does.
1453
01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:57.199
But that's not.
1454
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.800
Let me tell you I think it doesn't translate the TV.
1455
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.239
It takes a long long time to get that one
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01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.840
funny minute, that one funny clip that's about a minute long. Yeah,
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01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.719
And so people will see someone like Matt Rife have
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01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.360
a ridiculously funny crowd work clip and like, oh my god,
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01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:13.760
I want to go buy tickets to that because they,
1460
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.159
like you said earlier, they believe it's gonna be an
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01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.360
hour of that. And then they get there and he's
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01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.719
doing material still funny stuff, funny for a different target audience,
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01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.039
and then they leave there going he was okay, But man,
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01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.719
I wanted that what you're wanting is impossible to ask.
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01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.400
No one is going to be able to do that
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01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:37.760
perfect of a stand up moment in crowd work sixty
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01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.800
times in a row for sixty minutes. It's not it's
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01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:42.079
not realistic.
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01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.519
About expectations because like when you see, yeah, when you
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01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.599
see somebody doing crowd work, and then that's that's what
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01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.760
you want. When you're like, you're not gonna get the same, Yeah,
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01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:51.119
you're not.
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01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:51.480
You're not.
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Yeah, That's what bothers me sometimes with where crowd work
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01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.079
is is we're being fooled.
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01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.039
And let me tell you, Yeah, it's been happening a
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01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.800
long time. Yeah, because you said, you know, when you
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01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.360
think back in the day, I think I could do
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01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:04.880
stand up. I'm gonna tell you why I thought I
1480
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.639
could do stand up, And this is what I learned
1481
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.159
after becoming a stand up Because we're watching fucking pros
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01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.840
and they're making it look easy. And if you're if
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01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.239
you're good enough to make it, i've you. Never we
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01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.480
never looked at the like, ooh, he's having a hard time. Never,
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01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.519
we were looking at pros that made it look easy,
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01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.800
and they looked like average Joe. Guys like us yep,
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01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:27.639
so we're like, I could do that, and then you realize, oh,
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01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.519
they were doing took a shit ton of work. Yeah,
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01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.960
and so many hours, so many hours.
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01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.039
Because to me, the best crowd work is when the
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01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:37.599
audience is not expecting it. I almost think there should
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01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:40.719
be a different name. I don't believe that anybody that's
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01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.519
done a crowd work show did real crowd work.
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01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.760
No, it's not. It's it's it's a version of it.
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01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:46.639
It's in the family.
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01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.679
But real crowd work is done with I think it's
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01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:52.599
it's it's a catch twenty two where it's like, it's
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01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.239
not your fault that you're famous, but as soon as
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01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.599
you are famous and known for crowd work, you have
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audience members coming planning.
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01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:01.239
They remember that.
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01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:04.239
They got the amount of anxiety I would have if
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01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:05.920
I had to go to an audience, if I had
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01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.800
to watch a comedian just of just.
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01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.639
How long have you guys known each other? And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
1506
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:12.679
all right, I didn't know.
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01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.519
I had to study with me and my girlfriend before
1508
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.639
I came here. For me to remember all the ship
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01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.199
about our lives.
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01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.840
It's like buy a ticket.
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01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:23.519
Yeah, So it's like it doesn't come naturally, and so
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01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:25.760
to me, the best crowd work I've seen is when
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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.840
there's people that I don't know who the I don't
1514
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:29.599
even know who the fuck this guy is on stage
1515
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.360
and I have no reason to like him, but he
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01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.519
still found a way to do crowd work and make
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01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:36.159
me like him.
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01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:37.360
That's just way more genuine.
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01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:41.000
It's either that or it's the crowd work like some
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01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.679
comedians who they it's it's it's quasi crowd work where
1521
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.239
it feels organic to the audience. But when you watch
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01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.719
that person, you see that they've got they've got four
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01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.079
or five slotted answers.
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01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:55.880
Christia was great CrowdWork, but I remember going, oh, he
1525
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.039
had that locked in at.
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01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.280
It's like a magic.
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01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:01.920
They have stock answers and then they pull them out
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01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.119
when it's appropriate. What I've noticed is I'll do like
1529
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.800
these uh, I'll do like these don't tell shows or something,
1530
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.679
and there's like a row of video cameras in the
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01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.600
back behind the audience, and a lot of comics I'll
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01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:22.000
see break their set to start doing crowd work because
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01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.399
they're fishing for that moment.
1534
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:25.159
Yeah, And that's the thing, if you have to fish
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01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:27.239
for it and it's just not naturally there. And here's
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01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.239
and here's the thing problem at the clubs uh the
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01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.159
haha stop said stop bringing your cameras because they were
1538
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.760
taking up the whole back of the room like it
1539
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.000
was a press junket or something. Yeah, and it's like no, no.
1540
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.720
No to the comics doing that. Just ask yourself, do
1541
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.600
you really want to go viral for that? Because people
1542
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:47.000
may start saying, oh, I want to buy tickets to that,
1543
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.359
and you'll sell tickets once and then three hundred people
1544
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:53.960
will leave pissed off and disappointed and never buy your
1545
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.439
tickets again. Just be careful because what you ask for.
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01:08:57.600 --> 01:08:59.039
What I think is happening also is that they're not
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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:06.359
thinking that far because now likes and follows is money.
1548
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:08.840
That's the currency. They think about the next clip, and
1549
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:10.640
I think about what's my hour going to be?
1550
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:12.760
How is this going to fit it? To affect the show?
1551
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:13.920
Like I did a show in Long Beach to the
1552
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.039
young lady that was hosting, such a sweetheart, but I
1553
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.239
noticed something. I go, oh, she's setting her camera up,
1554
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.640
so now she's not going to host the show. Because
1555
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:23.399
you guys all know as when you were at the
1556
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:25.960
level where you're hosting the show, it's our job to
1557
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.640
check in with the audience, build that energy. Well now
1558
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.239
I'm like, she's not gonna do that. She's just gonna
1559
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.680
do her little set now for her clip, and is
1560
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.479
exactly what happened. And she bombed so bad, and I
1561
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:41.680
felt bad for her because she she couldn't like redeem
1562
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:43.800
it like in other words, she would go up between
1563
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.920
comics and try to do a bit, and every comic
1564
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:49.319
on the show had to do what I call the
1565
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:50.760
janitor spot where you have to clean.
1566
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:54.000
Up a little bit, because it brought the show whoa.
1567
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.119
And then the comic will kill and I was like,
1568
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:57.439
finally the first comic kill.
1569
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:57.760
We're good.
1570
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:01.800
Now she went up told another thing and they were
1571
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.520
just done with her. They didn't like her after.
1572
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.920
That, and hopefully people learned that. The reason I call
1573
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:08.159
the show serious Circus is because I do as I
1574
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:10.439
want to have fun as a comedy podcast, I also
1575
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.279
want to have at least one serious conversation about comedy.
1576
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.560
I was in the car with my wife when I
1577
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.239
came up with the name of it. My my CPA
1578
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.079
CALLMS like, Hey, I'm filing for your your company name.
1579
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:23.960
I need two words that are gonna go. And I
1580
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:25.199
just looked at my wife and I go, what two
1581
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.680
words describe me? And she goes serious circus and I
1582
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.600
was like, holy shit, that's what perfect because how often
1583
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.039
do we plan We sit down and have the most
1584
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.560
ridiculous conversation like do I do I put the fart
1585
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:39.079
joke before after the little kid with braces, like and
1586
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:41.880
but these are real things. If our group text got out,
1587
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.960
well yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, this was this was perfect.
1588
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:46.199
We are out of time. I want to thank y'
1589
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:48.399
all for coming. Tell everybody how they can find out
1590
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:48.800
more about you.
1591
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.319
Let's start with Jay. You can find me on Instagram.
1592
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:53.000
God hates Jay, just the letter J.
1593
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:55.039
I am not on TikTok, so you will not see
1594
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:57.199
videos of the slurping ice cream.
1595
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.000
No, but there's videos on another side of him slurping
1596
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:01.119
something else. Go ahead and toast.
1597
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.479
I'm on all social media at Jeff Horst j E
1598
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.239
F F H O R S t E.
1599
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.560
Or you can follow my cat. I'm trying to get
1600
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:10.520
my cat famous. Who cuts an influencer?
1601
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:12.079
Now, what's your cats at?
1602
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:16.199
Symbol with the thumbs, Simba with the thumb, Simba with
1603
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:17.720
the thumbs polydactyl.
1604
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.279
All right, he does tricks, he skateboards. I can't wait
1605
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.319
to see. This'd be great.
1606
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.520
I'm gonna follow immediately, Jason, Jason.
1607
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.520
I'm at Jason Collins on all social media and it's
1608
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.359
c O L L I n gs at Jason Collings.
1609
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:34.000
Also check out my podcast Generation Gap on all platforms.
1610
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:35.520
Generation Gap with Jason Collings.
1611
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.479
Do you have guests on your show? Not yet, just
1612
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.840
two of us, okay, but we will Okay. I mean
1613
01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.560
I happen to know a father daughter who do a
1614
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.479
generation based thing. Yeah, that would be great to fit
1615
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:46.920
with that.
1616
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:48.119
I love this idea.
1617
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:49.960
It'll be it'll be the new Jetsons meet.
1618
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.159
Who's the it's you and your brother, my brothers.
1619
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.960
My brother's producing me and Sam Hirschgolder.
1620
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:58.920
The podcast its Generation Gap because he's thirty, I'm fifty five,
1621
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.680
and we just but what we're just having a silly time.
1622
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:02.600
We're just having a good time.
1623
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:06.359
Friend, I wasn't her waiting? Ga? Nice? Yeah? Well yeah,
1624
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.039
what is she seventies? Fifty four?
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01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.079
All right, thanks yall. I appreciate talking out
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To me, the best crowd work is when the audience
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is not expecting.
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It's either that or it's quasi crowd work where it
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feels organic to the audience. But when you watch that person,
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you see that they've got four or five slotted answers.
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Crowd, but I remember going, oh, he had that locked.
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It's like a magic like they have. They have stock answers,
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and then they pull him out when it's appropriate.
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I don't agree with any of this. I'm sorry, we
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haven't met. I'm Jeff. What's your name?
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Holy ship.
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I didn't know that.
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I would just take it for granted. I though y'all
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knew each other.
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My man, I don't go out enough. Oh yeah, I
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just assume it's my fault.
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Oh yeah, j Manum, all right, we need to cheer
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this guy up. He's not he's not his usual cheerful self.
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This is this is happy right here.
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You're a kidding. No, there's no way going car rides
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with him.
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Yeah.
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I have been in one.
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Never a word spoken.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad. My let's just hope we're recording.
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Here's my least favorite thing about Ja Mandy. Let's go
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to run the room. Talk about our least favorite things
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about jam maide yes, of course that he exists.
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That yeah, you got it, you got him.
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I don't even know if I have one yet, but
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I feel like it'ld be more hurtful coming from me,
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a stranger.
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It's just but but all you have is I just
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don't like the way the guy.
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Looked showed up. I got five.
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I had to learn this guy's name.
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Now, where could I now? Jay's thing? Jay's thing is
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uh you? Anytime I ever show him anything, I'm like, oh, dude,
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my special is not out yet, but there's a clip
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that just came out, and I'm like, watch this boom
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and you know, I've worked weeks and months on and
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I show him the clip and he goes, yep, I
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wish I got it.
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Yep.
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He just no.
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I'm saying, yeah, that's that's about.
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Right, And I'm like, you know what, fuck me. Like
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We're driving and I'm like, I'm just gonna roll out
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of the car while it's moving. I'm like nothing, I
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get nothing out of you, no feedback. And then and
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then finally, after about the fourth one, I go, dude,
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I'm getting nothing out of Egos. What do you want
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me to do. I watched it. I'm like, let's talk
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about it.
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Yes, what do you want it? It's hey, it's there.
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You know what, though he probably thinks by not shitting
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on it, he's being very nice.
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That's what it is.
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It just you know what it's like.
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When I was in grad school.
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There we gossers would tell me I was the worst
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with giving feedback, and I'm like, I'm not fucking qualified
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to come to opine.
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I love that honesty people, because there are so many
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people that aren't qualified. They're like, oh, how much time
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you got.
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Yeah, But here's the thing. But if one of your
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friends shows you something, that should tell you that we
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believe you are qualified and your feedback is valuable.
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To us, or that you like it or find it.
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Or that you don't because you could save me some
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trouble if it sucks because I'm showing you as a
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If one of my friends goes bro, that's not it because.
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for like technical stuff. I'm watching it for for like
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the materials material wise, like I'm not watching it from
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a oh, let me sit here and enjoy it perspective
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like I can't.
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Your laughter is different as yeah, so.
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Oh I watched Special with him not a peep, not
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some point forget and go back to like, oh yeah,
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like the word I'm not analyzing it because I'm gonna start.
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I'm gonna start by analyzing it too much.
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and I'm just a regular audience member, when I come
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back too, I'm just like, oh shit, Wow.
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This is all good stuff for the podcast. I hope
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you're recording.
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So like when I was watching Nicky Glazer on Sunday.
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They're Special or no there just like through her window
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Trying to peer through that dress through to see.
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It, do you catch the through the.
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didn't laugh, but I was like, oh, that's a really
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good joke.
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Yeah, you're more analytical than you're you're watching it from
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as an analyst and not a fan.
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of comedy that way. Yeah, I'll sit and not laugh
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one time ago that was a great special, Like I
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get it every now and then. Stuff will crack me up.
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stuff like I did when I was just a fan
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I don't.
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I don't. I don't watch a lot of stand up.
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It looks different now when you're on the backside, and
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Time watching it sometimes, even when I know it's good,
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I'm like, yeah, I can't watch this anywhere. I don't know.
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Sometimes it's just as a comedian, I can tell what
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it's when it's bullshit, when you're telling a story that
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isn't real, the thing didn't happen and you're just trying
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to be funny.
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So I guess the show started.
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Okay, Yeah, do you do like a song or something? Seriously?
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Not not yet. I'm still I would.
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Like your circus serious circus Jim is very serious.
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In the circus of life.
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Are we all sure? Are we all? I don't know.
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I mean people have side hustles, do what you gotta do,
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but all of us are pretty much full time into
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stand up right, like doing comedy.
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Like I'm doing the podcasts.
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Sure, I mean that's part of it, but I'm saying
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like this is like, you're not right. So, uh, the
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first thing I want to talk about worst job like
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you actually had when you had to do it, Like what's.
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Worst job in comedy or.
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Worst No, no, no, no, we'll get there too without
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without ruining relationships, without the worst day job. Yeah, yeah,
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like you're worst forced like nine to five that you
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had to do. Mine personally was for a water department.
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when I say they put you in sewage, I literally
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mean they put you in sewage Like it was for
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a small small town in Texas called Everman.
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there's no, no, no passionate to be a part of the
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sewage department.
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Yeah, you don't go to college for that and go
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you know what I want because what happens is First
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of all, you're on call twenty four to seven. If
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there's a massive pipe burst. It's almost always a sewage pipe,
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and the pipes run into the street and they burst
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and they cause flooding. So the way to fix it
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and then you have to get down in the ground
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with the leaky pipe. Well, I don't know if you
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ever seen this before, but it's pretty deep. It's five
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six seven feet under the ground sometimes, and I'm I'm
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not seven feet tall, So what does that tell you?
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Do a little bit of math. So I'm down there
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and it starts it's leaking. I climb down and this
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is not even a joke. You would think this guy
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in the morning. First of all, it's a long time ago.
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That's the worst part of the whole thing. Four o'clock
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My beeper is supposed to be My beeper went off
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the site and they're like, all these lights are already
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out there, there's a thing digging up a hole, and
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they're like, we need you in there. You gotta patch
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the pipe. And in order to do that, you gotta
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take this thing and link it around. And for some
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reason it latches on the bottom. I don't know why.
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pretty large, and so I'm in the hole and it's
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squirting water everywhere. And this is not clear, clean, fun
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you know water. It is absolutely sewage. And so the
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water is just like rising. And now I'm up to
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my chest in sewage and I'm trying to reach under
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this pipe to connect it. And I'm like, I can't
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reach the bottom of the pipe without without going under.
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hey man, he's I can just see, you know, a
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shadow of him way above me on the on the asphalt,
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and I go, I can't reach the bottom. He threw
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me a snorkel.
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No way, Oh my god.
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I get the job done, put on a snorkel and
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went in submerged my entire body into sewage to lock
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that up. And dude, the money minimum wage did they did?
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They put you in those like rubber overall thingies that
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about your waist. So once the once the water got here,
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it was playing. It didn't matter. Yeah, you exactly ship
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exactly exactly. So when I think when when I when
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times in comedy, I'm like, you know what I'm not holding?
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Hold then? Where?
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Oh dude, it was between five to seven bucks an hour. Wow,
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I don't think we had hit the seven twenty five yet. Yeah,
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maybe we did. But if you still you're not at
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seven twenty probably not.
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Probably now now would that extra twenty five cents an
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hour have made it worth it?
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I think you know that A longer snorkel maybe.
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No, the snorkle was pretty long, I hope, So snorkel
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was pretty long. Yeah, yeah, And and they were nice
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to me. One of the guys leaned down into the
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hole and kept the snorkel upright so that I didn't
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swallow ship water.
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hear anything, right, Oh they were talking somewhere. Oh yeah
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they were. They're like, you know, he doesn't he doesn't
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have to do this right. He knows that, like if
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one of them just went well, they wanted the thing fixed.
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So it's like, well, then I'll murder you. What do
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I think there's some level of this job is so
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disgusting that you got pick your battles where it's like
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there's pick on the new guy, and then there's all
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I will murder you and your family.
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already crazy and desperate enough to be submerged in ship water.
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He might not be the person you want to fuck with.
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There, all right, David, this wasn't in vain. Okay, since
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you're since you're old enough to have a beeper, you
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remember that you remember the Saturday Morning cartoon Snorks? I do, okay,
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so let's when you said snorkel. This made me think about,
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let's reboot snorks, but they're in ship water instead of
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the ocean.
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Snork plumbers.
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My father for a while, but when I was young
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and he it was a nightmare because my my grandfather
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he would have to go into these ditches and there
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one day he's in this he's on a job and
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he's in this hole that they dug and he has
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these things he has and he cuts into an electrical
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line and it blows him completely out of out of
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the ditch. And that was his last day working at
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that joint. Yeah, damn, I'm very fortunate, man, I've never
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had that job.
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What work did you do?
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My very first job that I got paid to do,
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I was was, Oh I sold. That was probably the
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worst one. I went door to door trying to sell
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the La Times subscriptions.
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And it was when La Times wanted to go into
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Orange County and they had the La Times Orange County
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edition and they would take all us LA kids that
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were just kind of running around the streets and they
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would say, we'll give you a job, and they threw us
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in a van, drove us into the richest parts of
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Orange County to go door to door saying would you
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like a subscription to the How are you that time?
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I was probably sixteen, sixteen seventeen, and it was it
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was it was. There were good days and bad days.
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off and then you're just walking.
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Yeah, and they put us in partners pairs. I was
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the only white kid on the crew other than my brother.
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very very white. And we would have met. We were
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met at doors with guns in our faces. Get off
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my lawn. U N word?
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Wow? Crazy stuff. Yeah.
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We're like, you want to come in for a nice tea?
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Yeah, and you're like yeah, dude. Yeah.
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getting called the N word for some reason, or or
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you were like in a porno.
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Ah. I remember this flow.
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I would that's a good trade off. That's a good
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trade off.
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Wow, flip a coin, how's today gonna be?
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Yeah?
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After that, I signed a record deal. I was producing
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music eighteen nineteen years old.
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Did that for a little bit.
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You've always had fun stuff.
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I've never had a real job except for those the
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New York, The New York the La Times went. And
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then my dad was worked at this electronics components company.
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And when I was twenty one, I know when I
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was nineteen to twenty one. I worked there, but it
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was one of those things where dad's dad hooked it up,
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so I was I kind of just thought I ran
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the place, which it didn't.
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Oh you were that dick. Well the dad was the
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dad's the owner, and he didn't know what you were.
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Tell my dad finds out right, you know who my
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dad is, But you were young.
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I was in production.
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I was in charge of producing and making these little
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little components. And then I found out my dad didn't
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have as much power as I thought, because one day
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he called me into his office and he says, I'm
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done due, I don't want to do this anymore. I go,
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what's going on? He goes, well, they're making cutbacks and
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they told me that I need to fire people. And
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the first person they want me to fire is my
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own son. Oh wow, And I went, Now, meanwhile, I've
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been studying martial arts since.
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I was twelve years old. So he choked his ass out.
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No, so my brother was already teaching. My dad was
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a black.
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I was like, he said, how about we opened our
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own martial arts school in that meeting, and I was like, okay,
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not a month, like just barely a month later, the
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day from that meeting, we got funding location and we
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opened our doors for our martial arts school. Opened that
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in ninety two, did that until, had that until I
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was in my forties, because I opened it twenty one,
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and then I had I had kids really young. You
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know that my kids are grown ups. And then in
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two thousand and six I walked into the Haha Comedy
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Club and started doing stand up comedy. So the first
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seven years of comedy I still owned the business. And
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then when I thought wrongly that I made it in comedy,
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when I.
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What made you think you made it?
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Because I got beaty comic view, got the Tonight Show,
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got flown out, and paid the two jfl name on
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the Walter Comedy Store.
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I'm like, here we are, I made it.
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Side note. I had Billy Gardell in here. We were
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having a meeting, and he goes, I made a and
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I said, so, I was trying to give him a compliment,
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and I said, with all the success you have, And
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I try to finish my sentence, and he goes, had
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really had? And I go, no, you're very yourself. He goes, had,
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He goes, he goes, buddy, he goes, you can't have
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a review mirror in this business. He goes, you got
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to have a Yeah, you can't have a review in
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this business. He's like, whatever success you've seen me have
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that is in the past, and I'm starting over every time.
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I mean, dudes, had two massive hit TV.
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Shows, Yeah three if you count yes to hear.
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Right right, just just super successful. But that's the mindset
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because like, and I remember Tom Hanks saying this too
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with it on some kind of actors roundtable. He goes,
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you know, whenever you try for an audition and you
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don't get it and all your friends go, oh, this
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too shall pass, don't worry about it. He goes, I
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just wish somebody would have said that to me when
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I had my successes. When you get bosom buddies, you
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have your own TV show and you think.
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I made it.
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He goes, I just wish somebody would go, this too
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shall pass, because it comes in waves.
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Thirteen, all that great success in that one year, and
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I sold my studio, I sold my schools, put some
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money in my pocket, was able to pay some bills
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and stuff, and wow, Trajector went, Now, you're just gonna
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be like this for a long time, and then then
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I realized, oh, it's just up and down. So I've
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done I've done the side.
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Hustle of driving for Uber, but that's it.
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And then I got very fortunate that I got picked
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up by some major comics to do the road and
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that kind of thing and open and some big money.
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When I was I did the World with Russell Peters,
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which paid paid my bills for a while.
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Yeah, good money.
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And then of course now my side hustle that I
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consider my now side hustle is Carnival.
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Is not Carnival, but cruise ships.
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I'm on the Royal Caribbean cruise ships making enough money
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to pay all my bills.
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That's dope.
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And I don't have to do it all the time.
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And I'm still doing stand up.
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Somebody was asking me about doing the cruise ship and
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then someone goes, you know, you have to have like
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an hour and a half. I want you to do
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sometimes an hour, twenty hour three just you. And I'm like,
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I did that when I filmed my special, but I
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couldn't imagine doing that five nights a week.
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I'll tell you what I'm doing on these cruise ships
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twenty minutes.
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What and it's this Royal this is their thing. Yeah.
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I think it depends on the on the cruise line.
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So Royal Caribbean has these big ships that have comedy
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clubs them on them. The comedy club sits maybe one
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hundred and fifty people. There are almost seven thousand people
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on the ship. The club only sits about one hundred
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and fifty people. So you're getting a different crowd all
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the time. So they're like, yeah, I go, so, how
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many sets doing to do? They're like, what do you mean?
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They're like, just do your twenty minutes. I go same
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show every week, every show goes. Yeah, it's a new
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crowd every show. I go.
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How clean? They're like, it's an adult show.
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This sounds like a dream. Jakeb I would love to
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do that. I would love to do.
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When I was super excited. I don't know if you
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guys know who Greg Barrant is. Yeah, Barrent, he wrote
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He's just not that into you. He was a writer
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on Sex and the City. He's on the cruise ships
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and he's on Royal And my very first one was
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with him. And I'm sitting in the green room and
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you can hear the vog. The guy doing the announcements,
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and I go, how clean do we have to be?
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Because they didn't tell me hardly anything like you're you're
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here because we like you have a great time, you know.
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The only real rule they said is like just don't
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talk about the company, which I totally get. I'm wor
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sure for him, and Greg goes, oh, listen, and the
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vo G guy goes, and another reminder, this is an
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adult show, so if you are easily offended, please make
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your way to deck too and see the doctor to
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have that stick removed from your ass. Yeah, how your
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audience is, like, he goes, it's fun and there are
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different ones.
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That's great, that's great.
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You do a lot of shows.
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Two shows a night, you have Thursday off, Wow, couple
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one night you do three, and then the last night
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you do one show in the like it's like a
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two thousand seat theater and it's any changing.
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I can the feeling that Jeff has had a separate
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a differently.
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Got to do it once. Oh, I did it once.
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It was a fill in minute, like with a weak
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heads up, and when I they there was some miscommunication
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because the person that I was filling in for he
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was doing this for months and months at a time,
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so he didn't he knew this was my first time
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on a cruise ship. I didn't even know where the
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fuck I was supposed to be, and that at some
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point there was like an alarm that went off that
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was supposed to mean that everybody that works, uh, that's
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being paid to be here. I guess it's our responsibility
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to help people if they drown or something, and an
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alarm goes off. That's what we all had to do,
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like literally every single person that worked there, whether you
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were a chef or whether it didn't matter what you were.
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An alarm goes off, and then that means you're supposed
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to go to this deck, and then if you're on
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this side, you're supposed to go there. And at some point,
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and I wasn't a part of it. I was really
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annoyed this alarm was going off. Nobody told me about it,
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and then later on somebody in another language is yelling
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at me, and I'm.
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Like, what the fuck are we talking about.
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I wasn't a part of any I was like, nobody
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told me any of any of this, And there was like, oh,
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somebody was supposed to fill you in when you got
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in here and I was like, yeah, I don't know
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where I'm going.
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Price, So he's the one that got the heads up.
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Yeah.
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I was walking through the kitchen and at times like
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just to try to get around the shoes.
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That's how you have to do it.
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You gotta be downstairs and all this shiit.
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See.
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My first experience with a cruise ship gig was another
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cruise line where you had to have five different sets,
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a clean show of this show. Yeah, they put you
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in a prison cell below deck that I found out
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that I found out later was next to the morgue. Yeah,
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ships have morgs because people die on them. And it
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was and you had to wear a name tag. Remember
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where you went, Yeah, I had. I had to wear
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a name tag. Canceled all those. I canceled all those,
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and then then I had. Then I was like, I
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need to make some money. So I got in contact
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with the Royal contacted me and it was it's dude,
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you go on like a guest.
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You stay in the stateroom. It's like a beautiful room
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with a window of you.
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And it's at every twenty minutes is your headlining set?
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No? So these are the different gigs.
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So the ships that have the comedy clubs two comics
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twenty minutes each. Some of them have three comics. Doing
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fifteen each doesn't change the pay.
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Just forty minutes. Forty minutes of a comedy show, well yeah.
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It's a forty minute show. And then they go because
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they're on this cruise ship and they have they're like
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all schedulers and so but then there's these I think
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there are a little smaller ships. They don't have a
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comedy club. And you do the theater and you do
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a forty five minute headliner set ready once for the week.
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Once, Wow, I had I had to do twenty.
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I do like fifteen. Like there was like a one
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show that was like interviewing. It was like showing everybody
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the types of acts that you'll have this week, and
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so it was just like everybody doing just a little
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bit of everything.
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So I might have did like ten to fifteen minutes.
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But then there was two other sets, one clean, one dirty,
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but that were like forty minutes. But even the dirty
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set wasn't really dirty. It's it's it's still as dirty
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as you can get away with when everybody's old.
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Like, there wasn't a I was the youngest person by decades.
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Still still better probably yeah, and then you'll better than
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probably your worst job, which I'm sure interested.
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Oh yeah, no I did. I did door to door
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sales selling cable. I did, yeah, And.
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That was it was.
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It was awful for me because my brother was great
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at it and he couldn't understand why me doing comedy,
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like just be funny at the door, and I'm like no,
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but he's like, they don't want me. When I go
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to an audience. They were they wanted, they wanted this.
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You know what I mean, I'm knocking on a stranger's door.
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They're pulling out like not. My brother just couldn't care
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less like it's at the time. For Comcast, it was
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like back when people had a home phone, a triple
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play would pay like three hundred bucks if you had
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to sign somebody up to to get all three of them,
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and and all they had to do is just get
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it installed and you got paid.
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So it was like, just get through the assholes.
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Find one person in a day that's willing to save
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some money, and you'll make three hundred bucks that day.
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So it wasn't like bad in theory, but there's still
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only so many times somebody can say fuck you, I
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hate you before you're like say, I just I just
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don't want this in my soul anymore.
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That's what I was saying. Looking back now, how dangerous
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is that? Yeah, you don't know what kind of person
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you're The door.
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One time I knocked on somebody's door and uh, he.
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He was holding his He opens.
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The door very aggressively, and he's one hundred percent naked
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and he's holding this little he's holding like a little dog.
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And then he says, what do you want? And then
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and I'm like, I just tried to I don't know
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why I should have. I didn't know what to do
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because I was like, well, I don't you don't strike
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me as the person that wants me to talk to you.
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But also you're I've never had somebody be like naked, aggressive, like.
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Look at whenever you're selling, I'm buying it, and.
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Adull dog.
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And then he was like what a statement, and the
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and the cursing didn't match. It was weird, like he
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was like, get your bitch off of my property, and
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I was like, I don't even know. The bitch didn't
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really flow in the sentence that well, I'm gonna leave,
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but he already had like the son of a ship,
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and then he had my flyer like that had the
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number on it. And then he keeps calling and calling
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like he's still angry.
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I tried to knock on it. He was.
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He was outside for so long that I tried to
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just knock on the neighbor's door, like, please answer the door.
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You need to know.
564
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.759
Do you know that you're you have a neighbor that's naked.
565
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:31.960
That's a crazy man. I don't know if you know that.
566
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.680
But he didn't answer the door, and I was just like,
567
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:36.519
this is this is insane.
568
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.119
This man flyer drop a couple of times a year
569
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.960
from my martial arts school. One time I show up
570
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.079
to teach classes and my mom was running the office
571
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.440
and she's like, come back here. You gotta hear this voicemail.
572
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.400
And this woman was just losing.
573
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.200
You keep your fucking trash off my fin park you.
574
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.920
If I see this fire one more time, I'm gonna
575
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.119
come in here business and shoot through. It was like
576
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.240
it was this small.
577
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.559
It was a little guy on their porch, didn't go
578
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.599
in their mailbox, didn't go on their screen, just on
579
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.759
their porch, flipped.
580
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.319
Out people don't know that no soliciting does. It doesn't
581
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.680
mean anything like people like like, cause if you because
582
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.000
technically it's even like we would always be like, well,
583
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.599
technically you're not I'm not even at I'm not collecting
584
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.440
any money from you. You're signing up a thing to
585
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.759
pay monthly later on, so I'm not even really soliciting.
586
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.079
But it's also just like nine out of the ten
587
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.039
people that you did sell had a no soliciting sign.
588
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.319
No soliciting means no.
589
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.400
Assholes you knocking sign?
590
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.279
Yeah, absolutely, I would go on the door and then
591
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.039
and then half the time more often they were. They
592
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.279
were angry, of course, but they were just as angry
593
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:49.680
as the people that didn't have no soliciting signs. Their
594
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.960
anger level wasn't higher because of the sign. They just
595
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.880
had a reason to be like, look at the sign.
596
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.039
But there was still just as many people that were
597
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.400
like that didn't even care that there was a sign
598
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.079
because they were like, oh, I'm getting I'm paying too
599
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.200
much money, so ignore the sign.
600
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.440
Yeah, no, I want to sign up.
601
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.319
So then it's like, well, if one person signs up
602
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.079
that has the sign out front, how do I It's like,
603
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.759
if what are you gonna call the cops.
604
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:14.839
I'm just not going to give you my phone number. Then,
605
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.119
back then, when you tell.
606
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.960
Them we were a little more straightforward, they knew what
607
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.039
you wanted to give them. There's this new thing that's
608
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:21.799
happening in my neighborhood. Or a guy I'll knock on
609
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.759
my door and I'll go, yeah, what's up, And he goes, hey, man,
610
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.680
I'm working on your neighbor's house down and I.
611
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.799
Went, who Bob, Sarah, Who's house?
612
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:33.359
And that's so funny because I did door door Now,
613
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.079
I can't stand it when my doorbell rings. Old Man
614
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:39.400
Staco has a bit about it. It's so real it
615
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.720
in me, it's almost as bad as FaceTime.
616
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:43.720
I can tell you.
617
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.960
I can't showing up and announced. I hate it.
618
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.440
I had a guy knock on my door and say that, hey,
619
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.960
we're working on your sorry to bother you, we're helping
620
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.359
your neighbor out. There was a hailstorm recently, yeah, yeah,
621
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.359
And I was like, I was like, this is bullshit,
622
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.200
this is bullshes back in Texas when I had my
623
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.440
house and and a health storm had just come through
624
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.039
like and and fucked a lot of things up, and
625
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:06.720
so I let him do his thing, and then I
626
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.920
was like, I was like, so you're trying to sell
627
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:10.400
me a roof. He's like, we just file all your
628
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.400
stuff with your insurance company. If they don't approve it,
629
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.559
we don't do it. And I was like, that's a
630
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.279
pretty good sales pitch because it's not unlike money out
631
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.759
of my pocket necessarily. And so they ended up doing
632
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.880
the inspection finding some damage and they got a They're
633
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.559
always I got a brand new roof and it didn't
634
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.960
cost me anything, like they got paid like a small
635
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.359
like thousand dollars deductible insurance.
636
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:30.440
Paid for it.
637
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:31.640
Yeah.
638
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.480
Yeah. And then as a matter of fact, while they
639
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.279
were there, uh, and they already had some damage that
640
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.279
they were dealing with, I was like, I've always wanted
641
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.160
to get this bathroom redone do y'all do? And and
642
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.839
they're like, yeah, we do that stuff too, And I'm like,
643
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.440
so because they were already there on site, I was
644
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.680
able to get a huge discount on the getting a bathroom.
645
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.759
They were probably chill, tell you what we do, because
646
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:52.079
he is the ones that goes yeah, but what you
647
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.519
need to do.
648
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.119
Is yeah, they weren't like that.
649
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.519
You guys are adults. With homes and stuff. That's crazy
650
00:27:58.680 --> 00:27:59.480
good for you guys.
651
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.119
I'm just I would like to talk to Jay Mandium
652
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.799
now I don't uh and and I.
653
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.279
Want to hear his worst first job.
654
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.880
My worst first job. My first job was I worked
655
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:13.680
at Old Navy. That was my first job.
656
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.400
Oh yeah, I mean, y'all had bad jobs, but they
657
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.200
were just kind of salesy, irritating job. Y'all really didn't
658
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.039
do any like you got hardcore labor.
659
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.279
You didn't do any swim and s.
660
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000
I mean, and by the way, I made sandwiches. I've
661
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.799
worked at Jimmy John's. Never did jobs.
662
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.640
I worked in like factories, like box factories, and like
663
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.480
like swinging hammers and like I did.
664
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.640
I did blue collar mentally exhausting. I just mean, I
665
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.799
just hated myself because every single day I'd see other
666
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.440
people make so much money, And there's something demoralizing knowing
667
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.039
that for a fact, if you just are okay with
668
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.319
knocking on enough doors, you will make money.
669
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.680
Yeah you It's it's one hundred percent fact.
670
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.960
All you have to do, at least at this point
671
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.759
in time, as long as you are okay with people
672
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.960
saying they hate you and they want to kill you
673
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.559
if if you knock on enough doors, you will make
674
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.640
three hundred dollars a day guaranteed.
675
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:07.480
And I'm like, I don't know.
676
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.960
So then I'm just like, I guess I'm just a
677
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.000
little bitch, and it's just there's no escape in that.
678
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.759
My logic in my brain is like, well, yeah, they're
679
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.359
just they're just they just don't feel anything when somebody
680
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.039
yell's at them.
681
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.359
I'm feeling it. I understand that way.
682
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.640
I think I would rather do the shit jobs I
683
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.079
had than to do that, because like I worked at
684
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.480
a lot of automotive I worked in like tire shops,
685
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.880
and I remember like being just greasy and gross and
686
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:33.920
like trying to like jack up a car and then
687
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.519
it's raining on me and I'm just like I'm having
688
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.839
to wear goggles but i can't see and everything's slippery,
689
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:40.960
and I'm thinking, what could be fucking worse than this
690
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.039
walking around for eight hours knocking on doors begging for
691
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.240
approval like that?
692
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:46.599
Fuck?
693
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.720
Then I would rather be dirty working on cars.
694
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.119
I think I also like be under the car and
695
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.039
you don't have to deal with the customer. Yeah, but
696
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.680
if you went to the front office, you'd be.
697
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.039
Like exactly yeah, exactly.
698
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.599
I feel like three hundred dollars a day isn't enough
699
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.319
to make me want to do that. Sure well, surely
700
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.279
there were days in sale.
701
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.359
Yeah, They're like there were days better at it. They'd
702
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.480
get they'd get they could get signed up for people.
703
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.279
And I'm sure there were days where you didn't get anyone.
704
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.519
Yeah. Yeah, that's people have a game at it.
705
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.319
They're like, oh, their neighbors, oh if you if if
706
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.519
they actually like you, then they're like, oh, well I
707
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:18.759
was talking my neighbors. And then you can get like
708
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.680
four sales off of just one person.
709
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:21.000
You know.
710
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.359
I just saw so the people that were good at
711
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.480
it were making so much money and I was making
712
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:28.079
so no money.
713
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.359
You were taking you were taking the bus to work.
714
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.920
And then eventually my brother got good enough to where
715
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.920
like he started his own like his own his own team,
716
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:38.680
his own team.
717
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:40.480
So then he's my boss.
718
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.119
And then and then it's like even more highlighted that
719
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.160
it's like, oh wow, so he's the one that's good
720
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.279
at it and you're you're not.
721
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.039
It's just it's just oh.
722
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.160
Wow, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around
723
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.799
a new job that exists, and it's it's legit podcast,
724
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.079
But is it not. That's been a job. It's been
725
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:03.000
a job since twenty jealous Yeah, yeah, full times, it's
726
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:11.720
twenty ten. Uh, influencer. We all like, we all kind
727
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.519
of like roll our eyes and go, come on, influencer black,
728
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.480
get a real job. And people say that in the
729
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:21.119
comments too. They're like, dude, and like there's also a
730
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.319
wide range because we would be considered influencers, right, Yeah,
731
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119
Well it started weird, like you just famous for being famous,
732
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.599
but people like your personality and they like watching your videos,
733
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.880
and so when you say this is a cool product
734
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.319
that I use, people buy it. Well that's called I mean,
735
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:41.880
we did that on radio and TV for years and
736
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.599
nobody talked shit to them. They were celebrated, right, But
737
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.519
now that it's a twenty three year old girl alone
738
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:51.000
in her apartment and she's clicking her fingernails on some
739
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.960
press ons, you're like, what a what an idiot? No,
740
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.960
she's doing the same thing she's she's selling.
741
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.119
And so what is she selling?
742
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:58.480
Uh?
743
00:31:58.519 --> 00:31:59.680
Well, different products?
744
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.359
Okay, so they have sponsors because she just does this
745
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:03.880
thing that so many people love to watch.
746
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:04.400
Yeah.
747
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.720
Interesting, Yeah, and so what gets crazy about it is
748
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.680
I'll be scrolling through like doom, scrolling TikTok in the
749
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.079
middle of the night, and I'll scroll past someone going
750
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.839
do it. I know we've all seen it, going h
751
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:23.079
thank you, thank you, thank you. What they're doing. What
752
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.160
they're doing is so dumb. But basically, when you're on
753
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.720
TikTok live, I can gift I have to load my
754
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:31.440
money up.
755
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.319
I don't know the name of that thing.
756
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.000
So I can gift you. Let's just call it like
757
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.319
a banana. Let's say I can give you a banana.
758
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.960
And let's say the banana is four dollars, so it'll
759
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.400
represents money. It represents money. But what happens is you
760
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.359
you you have to load your account up with say
761
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.440
a hundred bucks, and then you go, I want to
762
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.079
I would like to give this guy money. Well, you
763
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.160
would never want to give me money. What's the point, right,
764
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.160
But when you scroll on and you see and let's
765
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.599
say I'm not a guy. Let's say I'm a cute
766
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.519
young woman, and and you see that when you when
767
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.480
someone gives an ice cream cone for four dollars and
768
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.359
ninety nine cents, which costs about five cost you about
769
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:11.079
five bucks to give, she goes thank you, and then
770
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:12.759
she just sits in there like this, and then you're
771
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.440
like and then you go, and then you go, and
772
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.680
then you just go gift ice cream and she goes
773
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.440
thank you, and you're like wait, and then and then
774
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.519
you go just like whatever. Sometimes they do little.
775
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.200
Kid keether, infinite amount of weirdos men and women. There's
776
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.279
a different Each gift that you give is worth a
777
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.920
different phrase or something that they might even have listed
778
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:34.400
on the screen.
779
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.519
And then let's say you give a dinosaur, the dinosaur
780
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.440
comes across the screen and she goes raw.
781
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.799
Yeah, that's it. But here's the thing.
782
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.440
It sounds ridiculous, right, and I want to look at it.
783
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.039
Right. There were people making money off dude.
784
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.160
There's this one chick. I don't even know her name.
785
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.559
She she's bilingual, she does English and Spanish. Sometimes I
786
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.359
will watch just because you're in awe, what's happening? I'm
787
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.680
in awe. And I'm also I'm like, she, this is work,
788
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.200
this is hard. I've done TikTok lives before. I've never
789
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.519
done that, but I've done TikTok lives before. Y'all know,
790
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.119
being live in front of an audience, being on for
791
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.119
an hour is draining. It's a lot out of your system.
792
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.400
She'll go for three or four hours.
793
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:18.679
It's like some weird Simon says.
794
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:23.239
And also she's remembering an action for every single gift,
795
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:26.440
and there's like fifty or sixty different options.
796
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.079
Right, Yeah, there's what it's like.
797
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.679
When you see the lift, she knows it's a dinosaur.
798
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.400
So she has a thing she does for dinosaurs. What
799
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.599
I'm saying is she's got it all memorized. She knows
800
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.599
what to do. She doesn't change what she does in between,
801
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.400
and so part of me is like, this is so stupid.
802
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.360
This is not a job, this is ridiculous. But then
803
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.239
I'm going, it's entertainment.
804
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.920
It's entertainment, and it's working.
805
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.360
People are looking at her, going this is dumb, this
806
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:47.920
is weird.
807
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.199
Forget, but I don't want to money. Yeah, you get
808
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.199
there even giving money. They're like, I'm not giving you money.
809
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.599
Well, here's what people do though, here's the thing. Then
810
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.800
you scroll through, going, I wonder what the birthday cake
811
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.039
is gonna do because no one's done that. And then
812
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.119
you look down and then you look down and you go, oh,
813
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.000
the birthday cakes fifth coming. You're like, it's fifteen bucks
814
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.639
and then you go, fuck it, it's fifteen bucks, so
815
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.000
you do it, and then she's like, happy birthday to me,
816
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.239
and then she's back to doing shit and you're like, oh,
817
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.840
that was the birthday thing. It's a curiosity thing to me,
818
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.199
and it's entertaining.
819
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.679
A very because of my age, like a premise for
820
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:23.199
a scary movie about the future.
821
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.599
And some people will even do things that are more
822
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:31.840
embarrassing because they're like they're willing to be feel shame.
823
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.480
There's a guy like I'm tired, Like I'll see sometimes
824
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.440
someone will post a video that says I'm live right now,
825
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:41.800
and then the video will be.
826
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.199
Like stop joining my live.
827
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.599
Every person that sends a banana means I gotta dunk
828
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.599
my head in this in this jaw this thing of
829
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.519
ice cream or something like something weird.
830
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.960
And there's just like what you there's a team of
831
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.079
there's a team of Asian dudes that sleep that are
832
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.679
like laying on this like this little thin mattress in
833
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.239
the floor, and every gift, whether it's a five cent
834
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.599
rows or a two hundred dollars thing, there's a little
835
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.559
horn next to the bed. And he goes yeah, and
836
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.440
he's just like come on and you're just like for
837
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:19.920
a nickel and he's just like boop and this dude,
838
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.679
and you watch it and I've never seen anything, dude,
839
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.480
And then you get but these guys will have five
840
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.199
six hundred people in the live just people are just
841
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.079
irritating these guys, and I'm like, you're you're playing into it.
842
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.119
It's it's it's really fascinating.
843
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.039
And you said something about shame and embarrassment. I don't
844
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.599
think that. I think that's going away. I don't think
845
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.199
people have shame or embarrassment anymore. Look at the look
846
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.480
at these influencers that walk down the street and do
847
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.039
in public and do what they think are pranks.
848
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.599
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna chime in
849
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.440
when he was when he was talking about there's a
850
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.519
guy that does all of the like ice cream licking
851
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.760
and stuff. He does all that in public. He'll do
852
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.039
it on like a major walkway. He sets up a
853
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.639
tripod and people are walking behind him and he's doing
854
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.159
the But the point is that, the point is I
855
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.920
want this guy. It's it's what it's doing. Though, here's
856
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.639
a new, an interesting way to think about it. It's
857
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:16.519
actually cashing in on the audience's bullying. They're like, Oh,
858
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.199
you want me to look dumb, I'll do it for
859
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.519
five bucks. And so you're like, yeah, act like you're
860
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.760
eating a banana in public. Now, lick the ice cream
861
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:26.920
cone now, and so you're just like doing it. But
862
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.360
he's getting your he's getting your money from.
863
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.079
It, and the people that are doing it are growing
864
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.159
up like it's such a weird way to teach.
865
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.000
Someone to care what other people think. Let me ask
866
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:36.519
you what a.
867
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.480
Weird way to teach a child not to care what
868
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.480
people think? Going public and embarrassers.
869
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.559
Yeah, there's this other thing that I witnessed in the
870
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.320
real world. I r L. My wife and I were
871
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:51.840
walking up walking into Costco and there was a woman
872
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.880
set up with a ring light, three different phones yep,
873
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:02.440
and products going loudly in Asian whatever when she was Asian,
874
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.400
but he just she was speaking.
875
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:05.400
I don't know what it was.
876
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.679
It was Chinese something weird, you know what.
877
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.360
I was Asian as opposed to this, as opposed to
878
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.280
this podcast where we're where we're speaking what.
879
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.079
We're speaking normal? Have you seen those games speaking? Have
880
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.639
seen those memes? You could either be this this or
881
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.079
normal and the normal the white person.
882
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.480
Oh god, I've not seen that.
883
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.280
Oh it's bad surprising. See I'm joking.
884
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.880
But anyway, she's yelling loudly about the products. Yeah, and
885
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.960
I go, what is I was like, my fifty five
886
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.519
year old brain couldn't understand. I'm like, what is happening
887
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.599
right now? We're in public. My wife has more of
888
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.960
an understanding for internet ship and she's like, oh, she's
889
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:44.400
doing product reviews.
890
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.159
Well, it's product reviews, but it's also uh TikTok live,
891
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.800
so you can go live on TikTok and sell products
892
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.280
and just make tons of cash.
893
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.960
This whole building she bought. But is she buying it
894
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.639
in the store and then coming outside with him going
895
00:38:58.679 --> 00:38:59.280
I just bought this.
896
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.199
You can buy Yeah, she's probably she's she could be
897
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.599
doing product reviews because she's inside Costco. She probably works
898
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.679
for Costco getting people to buy stuff online from Costco.
899
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.159
That people, and listen, when we leave here, you're gonna
900
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.079
see it in real life. This this building is filled
901
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.239
with people like squeezing drills and going, come on, guys, hey,
902
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.320
my good job, thanks for doing that, buddy, did you
903
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.800
buy one? Get that extra battery? There you go, Hey,
904
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.480
there's Stephanie.
905
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.519
There's QVC like shops like there's people that their whole
906
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.480
existence in life they're making. There's people making a lot
907
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.000
of money where they're just reviewing. They're like, all right,
908
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.639
today's the last day of the sale, guys. If you
909
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.920
click right now, you can get it just in time
910
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.800
for whatever the next holiday is.
911
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:44.599
That's what the sale is for.
912
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.360
Jason, Dude.
913
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.599
So much money it's made, That's why it makes me sad.
914
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.039
I'd be usually i'd be like, you go for it's cool,
915
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.239
but I don't know, it's it's I'm sorry. First of all,
916
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:59.400
I'm I'm an age where I prefer to go into
917
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.199
the store.
918
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.800
And being able and not and they don't have the
919
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:04.519
thing in stock, and then you're like, I should have
920
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:05.320
bought this on Amazon.
921
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.519
Stores are places where I see what exists for me
922
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:09.719
to then buy online.
923
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:12.840
Store is like a physical online.
924
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.519
I'm not like so many pairs of shoes online. But
925
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.599
it's because I know my size and I know what.
926
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.280
I know how my foot feels in a Nike and
927
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.440
I'm a big Nike guy, so I've done that. I
928
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.159
do that, But like a sweater or a jacket, I'm like,
929
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.280
so nervous that I'm gonna get this thing home. And
930
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.480
here's where I'm out of touch is because I'm like,
931
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.199
what if it comes home and it doesn't fit? My
932
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.519
wife's like, you return.
933
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.039
The same day, the same day, and you don't even
934
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.039
need the boss. By the way, you could just drop
935
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.920
it off at a whole foot What is this witchcraft?
936
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.199
But I'm slowly getting better.
937
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:46.599
You're old.
938
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:48.639
You're so proud of myself.
939
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.159
When I returned something at the Whole Foods.
940
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.800
I was like, I just did am I gen z?
941
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:55.079
What were you saying?
942
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.119
I was just saying, like they've They've made it so
943
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.840
easy now to where it's like, oh no, I'll buy
944
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.360
five pairs of shoes because I don't know which size
945
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.559
it's gonna be yep, And then I'll return all four
946
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.480
of them and then they're gonna throw them all away.
947
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:08.239
They're probably not.
948
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.920
They make so much money that so they've even made
949
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.800
the there's even people that make money. There's even like
950
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.719
side businesses of just the stuff that's returned that they
951
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.159
can't resell, where there's people that bid on bins. There's
952
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.760
like bin stores, oh yeses, And my dad wanted to
953
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.960
get into that of like, everything in this bin is
954
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.559
this amount of money, and on different days there's different
955
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.880
There's phone cases for a dollar that used to cost
956
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.159
twenty five bucks on Amazon.
957
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.800
Now they like these garbage islands in the ocean that
958
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:37.880
are just garbage.
959
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.280
Yep, crazy yep.
960
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.920
So imagine, So let's say you do let's say you
961
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.639
do a TikTok and you're like, hey, guys, I had
962
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.559
this thought about this thing, and people laugh, and then
963
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.599
you're like, you get somebody to go, dude, where do
964
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.480
you get your glasses? I fucking love your glasses And
965
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.199
you're like, oh, I get them from this store, and
966
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.400
then somebody else comments to these glasses are so dope.
967
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.039
I've looked for ones that do this and this and this,
968
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.559
and I really like the way, like I want those
969
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.559
two and you're like, huh, it's only got a thousand
970
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.480
views on the video, but forty people out of the
971
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.960
thousand asked about my glasses. And let's say you bought
972
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.360
your glasses from an online retailer, and now it's like okay,
973
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.920
so rather than you just saying, oh, I buy them
974
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.679
at this place and then they go and get them,
975
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.440
what if you could earn a commission on that right.
976
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:28.119
So now that retailer connects with TikTok and goes, here's
977
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.440
a link where people can buy directly from us, and
978
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.480
you're like, I already own that product. So now you
979
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.519
do another video. But at the end of the video
980
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.000
you get ready to post it. There's a thing to
981
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.800
tag a product. So now you tag a product that's
982
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.079
your glasses, and for everybody that buys those glasses, you
983
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.079
get six bucks. Oh yeah, So then you have a
984
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.159
video that gets two hundred thousand views and four hundred
985
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:55.559
people buy those glasses.
986
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:57.000
You're doing all right?
987
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.559
And then you do two or three posts a day
988
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.159
and you tag products.
989
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:03.679
That's insane.
990
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.360
And that's one of the things that's overwhelming for me
991
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.079
because of how I started doing this entertainment thing. Those
992
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.920
numbers are crazy to me. To me, I'm like, dude,
993
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.679
there's a hundred people in the audience. That's crazy.
994
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.639
Now nothing.
995
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.079
If you get one hundred views on the video, you
996
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:17.760
delete it.
997
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:24.840
Quite see, all I'm hearing is like for me, if
998
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.719
I posted a video that I thought was I was
999
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.920
really proud of it, thought was really funny, and all
1000
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.880
people are doing is commented on my glasses.
1001
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:31.400
And be like, what the fuck.
1002
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.320
What about what about the joke?
1003
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:34.239
What's the joke funny?
1004
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.119
Well, I'd be pissed off that they're commenting about my glasses.
1005
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.960
I don't give a fuck like the joke, the joke
1006
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.400
laugh by tickets, you're still the old school by tickets mentality.
1007
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.679
And it's just sometimes and I think you and I
1008
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.639
have had the conversation David Worth. That's not translating a lot.
1009
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.159
Your millions of views here aren't My millions of yous
1010
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:56.679
here aren't equally millions.
1011
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:01.960
Of so So the thing with that is the these
1012
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.599
conglomerates like TikTok, like Amazon, they want you to perform.
1013
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.039
They want you to be the dancing monkey. They do
1014
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.599
not want you to have your own audience. They don't
1015
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.119
want you to have access to the audience. So they
1016
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.360
want you to pay them to advertise to your own followers.
1017
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.960
So you could have you could have video. I've got
1018
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:26.199
videos with thirty forty sixty million views, but then I post, hey,
1019
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.039
guys will be in Sacramento next week. Even with almost
1020
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.519
two million followers, that video will get maybe twelve hundred
1021
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.760
views because the algorithm goes, oh, this is an ad
1022
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.239
that we're not being paid for so they just like
1023
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.320
shadow ban it away from people so that they can't
1024
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.920
see it. And so the problem is when you do say, okay, fine,
1025
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.159
I will pay you for access to my own followers,
1026
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.159
you can do it, but they right now they don't
1027
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.800
have the ability to say people who follow me who
1028
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.840
are also in sacrament So you end up going people
1029
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.320
in Sacramento who are fans of stand up. So then
1030
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.440
you're paying to these people and they yeah, and I
1031
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.320
had a whole video about it too, where and then
1032
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.159
they see and they go, and so all the comments
1033
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.519
end up being what the hell are you doing on
1034
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:14.880
my screen? Who the hell is this guy?
1035
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.239
I gotta guess what.
1036
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.480
Meanwhile, famous comedians in people in that city like right, like,
1037
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.000
I don't know, maybe somebody that likes Mark Norman, Dave Chappelle.
1038
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.039
I I have to guess what fucking interest? So then wouver.
1039
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.000
So then I go to Sacramento, go to do a
1040
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.360
two hundred and fifty seat venue and sell one hundred
1041
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.960
and twenty tickets and they're like, you didn't sell out,
1042
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.920
but it's okay, and hold on, let me finish that.
1043
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.280
I don't want to put that out in the world,
1044
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.159
and I just do that. So I do that, and
1045
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.480
then as I'm leaving. As I'm leaving, I'm like, hey,
1046
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:50.400
I'll be in Dallas Fort Worth next weekend. Because I'm
1047
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.760
in Sacramento. While I'm posting this, I'll get seventy or
1048
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.440
eighty comments and dms when do you come into Sacramento?
1049
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.639
And I'm just like, God, this fucking algorithm. Why can't
1050
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.519
I say people who follow me who were already in
1051
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.440
Sacramento with one point eight million I've already done my
1052
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.360
analytics on my breakdown with one point eight million followers
1053
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.519
on TikTok. And that's not even counting Instagram with one
1054
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.440
point eight million on TikTok. Some of my lowest cities
1055
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.400
when I just go down to like Detroit, fifteen thousand
1056
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.039
of my followers are just in Detroit. Just about any
1057
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.679
major city in the country, it's gonna be between eight
1058
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:32.079
to twenty thousand people in these cities. And I'm like,
1059
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.880
I could I could sell out an entire weekend and
1060
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.079
have waiting lists if TikTok let me advertise.
1061
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.639
And to people give them this.
1062
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.519
Absolutely, I've told them. I've told them that I'm like,
1063
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.639
I will pay you just add and they even have
1064
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.639
a blank space when you're trying to buy the ad,
1065
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.360
there's a spot that nothing's there. And I'm like, just
1066
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.320
you know who follows me? Just add that also only
1067
00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:01.519
target people who already know who I am. Yeah, so yes, yes, Jason.
1068
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.119
What about the guys that are selling out that are
1069
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.920
Internet there for them?
1070
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.079
They're funny, they're better than me?
1071
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.320
No, no, no, no, that's not true at all.
1072
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:12.079
No, I don't know.
1073
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.039
I think part of listen seriously, there's there are people.
1074
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.239
Yeah, I've talked to club people owners that said play sold.
1075
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.400
Out, it was a terrible show. Oh why for some people? Well,
1076
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.800
let me clarify. I do sell out a lot of
1077
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.440
my shows. I'm not saying that's the case.
1078
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:29.079
I get it.
1079
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.880
I sell out a bunch of the shows I sold
1080
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.280
out right right now, right.
1081
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.480
But these New Jackson I'm saying a randomly like that
1082
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.800
chick who had the meltdown posted the video of her
1083
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.119
having a meltdown on stage where she like yelled at the.
1084
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.039
Yeah, that's got millions of followers and she's selling out.
1085
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.239
I don't know who booked Everywhere girl with Tattoos. I
1086
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:49.960
can't remember her name.
1087
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.159
I don't remember her name, but I just she screamed
1088
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.280
at a guy and he was like, I don't think
1089
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.000
you're funny. I don't like there's no joke or something.
1090
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.800
She's like, get the fuck out.
1091
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.800
And if you read the comments, most of them were
1092
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:04.599
not on her side.
1093
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:06.719
That thing it is so loud.
1094
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.159
I don't know, why do you do that? I don't know.
1095
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.639
Every time he talks, he grabbed like the distance from
1096
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.039
my mouth to thell.
1097
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:14.119
He'll he'll handle that.
1098
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.079
And just like that's the crazy thing is that just
1099
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.679
being known doesn't even matter good or bad. It's more
1100
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.000
likely to get people to come out somehow because it's
1101
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.519
like there's people that aren't even known as stand up
1102
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.599
there's people that are funny doing sketches online.
1103
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:37.280
That were so famous that they would do people would people.
1104
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.280
And I've been to some of these before where I
1105
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.239
just remember like at the at the Cleveland Improv, where
1106
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.199
it was like everybody came to see this person they
1107
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.719
did fifteen minutes at the end, yeah, they and and
1108
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.760
they had and so I'll tell you the rest was actual.
1109
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.360
Stand up comedians.
1110
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.719
And the person that that they all came to see
1111
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.159
was the was the worst of the entire part.
1112
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.039
It was just yep, so a lot a lot of
1113
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.480
times people follow you for very specific reasons, and a
1114
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.320
lot of my followers came for the dad stuff. They
1115
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.760
like that I'm a dad, They're connected with that. They
1116
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.760
think I'm funny, but they they're in their minds, they're like,
1117
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.559
are you gonna come to the to the show? And
1118
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.239
like make your daughter a snack? Like what are you doing?
1119
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.840
And so there's a smaller percentage of people that will
1120
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.599
buy tickets. So there are some cities where I can
1121
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.559
sell out, no problem in the cities where I do okay,
1122
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.719
where I'm not selling out, but I'm also not like
1123
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.440
I'm not they're not canceling shows for ticket sales. But
1124
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.639
also it's like I could do so much better if
1125
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.039
I had these other tools. It's because they they they
1126
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.920
follow me for a different reason. And there are a
1127
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.719
lot of sketch comedy guys. I don't want to name names,
1128
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.960
but people have gotten really popular online. They're funny and
1129
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.960
they're good comics. But then there's this moment of like,
1130
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.679
you're playing two characters, yeah, and then we follow you
1131
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:56.360
for that how you're playing.
1132
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:57.400
These two characters?
1133
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.960
And then and then when they show up to buy
1134
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.920
tickets They're like, I don't what I was expecting. This
1135
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:03.159
is just a guy on stage doing stand up. I
1136
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.039
want to see you do your characters. Well you can't.
1137
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.960
You can't have a face filter on. You can't become
1138
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:08.840
this person.
1139
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.320
Even on a famous level. People like forget like I've
1140
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.840
opened for Steve O and seeing an audience just like
1141
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.119
watching real time them just be disappointed that he wasn't
1142
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.079
gonna staple his nuts to a piece of paper or something,
1143
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.599
and it was like, no, he was, Yeah, he was
1144
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:26.519
just gonna be a dude talking into a microphone.
1145
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.800
And that's that makes me feel so bad for Steve.
1146
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:30.760
Just stand up.
1147
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.239
Yeah, he just wanted to do stand up.
1148
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.079
Danny found the clip that you that you.
1149
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.679
Were talking about.
1150
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.119
I gotta see that. I haven't seen it.
1151
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.960
Oh god, what happens?
1152
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.199
Natalie Cuomo is her name?
1153
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.280
Okay, go ahead, no?
1154
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.480
No? No? The office?
1155
00:50:47.840 --> 00:51:08.079
Yeah yeah, okay, wait what do you want to ask him?
1156
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.800
Oh it's not that wow, You're it's not that wow.
1157
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:12.280
Look at you.
1158
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:13.840
I can leave right now.
1159
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:22.960
A us and get nothing. I see.
1160
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.039
So you were afraid because like I felt like I
1161
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:35.360
was saying, he's your new friends.
1162
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.639
Yeah, funny Emerson for you.
1163
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.480
She doesn't seem like she's I'm not gonna hate on her,
1164
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.320
she doesn't seem she has the experience, I mean.
1165
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.679
A whole lot. And then and this is another thing
1166
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.719
that I just I just don't understand. Not a single
1167
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.239
joke was told. It's like these some of these people. Look,
1168
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.239
if you want to be a crowd work comic, have
1169
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.159
something ready, don't ask a hundred questions before you get
1170
00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.360
to one terrible joke.
1171
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:00.519
You ready.
1172
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.599
And they should not call themselves stand up comics, stand
1173
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.039
up interviewers. Maybe yeah, because it's it I hate to
1174
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:06.960
stand up in terraga.
1175
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.559
Well, I don't know if that's all she does. I've
1176
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.519
never heard of. This is my only clip I've.
1177
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:11.000
Ever seen her.
1178
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.920
My rant wasn't even gonna be about her specifically at all.
1179
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.800
It's just when crowd work used to be just literal
1180
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:20.719
crowd work, where where you were telling jokes and then
1181
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.400
something happened to organically in the audience and you found
1182
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.719
a way to weave that into the jokes you already had. Right,
1183
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.679
And maybe you go on a tangent so long you
1184
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.559
never even have to get back to the jokes. That's fine,
1185
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.280
but that's so much different than just having questions of
1186
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.400
like where do you work, what do you do well?
1187
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:41.880
But you also also all of us immediately recognized even
1188
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.239
if we've all been in a situation where you start
1189
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.440
talking to somebody and then you feel the energy leave
1190
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.920
the room. You're realizing you don't have anything. Yeah, the
1191
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.400
worst case scenario, you move on. No, no, no, the
1192
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.679
worst case you just move on. Because sometimes someone will
1193
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:57.599
talk to you and you respond and you're like, you
1194
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.760
can tell this isn't gonna be funny. You move on.
1195
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.039
You worked away into material. But if you don't have
1196
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.440
material fall back on, because you have been writing comedy
1197
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.639
for eight, nine, ten, fifteen, twelve years, you don't have
1198
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.719
that experience. You just you're stuck in the conversation.
1199
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.880
Now we haven't even gotten to the meltdown yet. I know.
1200
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:16.199
I'm just impressed with the algorithm that this was able
1201
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.960
to go viral with when when we're posting jokes and
1202
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.519
we're like, I gotta I gotta show the punchline in
1203
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.159
the first two seconds, because otherwise they won't have the
1204
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.559
attention span to even be like, they need to know
1205
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.280
that it's funny before they watch it.
1206
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.360
What is the title? What is the title of the
1207
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.320
video Danny me uncut version of okay. So they put
1208
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.280
comedian in quote, so they're already. Okay, they're already they're
1209
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.320
already hating on her yet.
1210
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.880
Okay. Oh so this didn't go viral from her posting it.
1211
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:47.360
No, I I found out about it because tyri Vera
1212
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.760
posted about it, and and Ty was like going back
1213
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.760
and forth with her because she because he saw it
1214
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.119
on her feet or something like that where she posted it.
1215
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.280
I don't know. She seems you gotta okay, No.
1216
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:02.679
I haven't seen that. Let's let's go.
1217
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.880
Yeah, let's move on him.
1218
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:09.559
I'm saying that.
1219
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.119
Say this like, it is such a hard time in
1220
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.000
this world right now. There are so many people that
1221
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.480
came together to be supportive and fucking amazing, and you're
1222
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.559
putting negative No fucking look me nice, you're putting negative fucking.
1223
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:28.719
Agrophy out here.
1224
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:30.679
The last one, look.
1225
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.119
The last time, the last on my fucking weekend is
1226
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.639
a souldout show. And you want to say, mean ship
1227
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:40.880
to me.
1228
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.159
Okay, don't fucking do.
1229
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:44.039
That, bro.
1230
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.639
Brod that that's not the way to handle it.
1231
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:59.320
Happen's about to cry. It's insane. Please stop.
1232
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.119
Time out Okay, beautiful girl, I'm about to be my age,
1233
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:08.840
show my age right now. This girl doesn't have enough
1234
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.440
people in her life to tell her, no, what just happened.
1235
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:16.119
Oh she's so mad because that didn't agree with her.
1236
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.280
She said, people came here to be to be supportive
1237
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:21.920
and positive. People came here to last.
1238
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.039
Yeah, ye, nobody. That's a new thing too.
1239
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:25.719
If you want, if you want to if you want
1240
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:28.239
a supportive audience, go go to a support group, go
1241
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:29.800
fall into a trust circle.
1242
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.239
People that come to be supportive are when I have
1243
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.199
all of my friends and family and the audience. When
1244
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.119
when you bring the audience into close circle, then they
1245
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:42.679
come to be supportive, or if maybe if you have fans.
1246
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.960
Here's the thing, there's a there's a way that she
1247
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.840
could handle that that that would have been very impressed
1248
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.360
with and respected.
1249
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.519
But what that told me is she felt threatened.
1250
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:56.880
She felt like, oh, they just called me out because
1251
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.440
apparently he says she's not funny, and that.
1252
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:01.440
I didn't hear him say that.
1253
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:02.239
What I heard.
1254
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.119
What I heard him say was you can't just roast
1255
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.599
me without getting some back. And my response would have been,
1256
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.280
that's exactly what the fuck I can do. I have
1257
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.880
a microphone. I'm the professional comedian. I would have responded
1258
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.280
that way, and she just but what.
1259
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.800
Happened was if you listen to it. She said it
1260
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.519
very quickly and very subtly before she went into her
1261
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:24.920
little crazy rant. And then because he started defending himself,
1262
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.599
she said because she had no joke, she was bombing
1263
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.639
the situation. Her go to was, we got some small
1264
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:33.559
dick energy over here, right right.
1265
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.159
And of course the guys are like, what ye did
1266
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.719
I do to me? The issue isn't to me.
1267
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.039
The reason that stuff like this happens is one of
1268
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.639
the negative sides of just social media in general, because
1269
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.119
when I started, the only reason that you would ever
1270
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:53.239
even record your set is for only the purpose.
1271
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.360
To study, to give to study, give to a booker. Right,
1272
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:57.039
that was it.
1273
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.280
There was no showing strangers that because the mindset as well,
1274
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.360
if I post it, then I can't do those jokes again.
1275
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.719
And the whole goal is to work on a set.
1276
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.639
And you know that that was the whole purpose of it.
1277
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.000
So you have people that because of social media they
1278
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.760
feel so and because there's comedians that are being famous
1279
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.760
from I Saw You Funny in that thirty second clip,
1280
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:18.679
so now I'm gonna pay money.
1281
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.880
To see you do an hour, which is insane.
1282
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:25.000
So because it seems so easy to be at that
1283
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.760
big level, you have comedians that are like going at
1284
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.800
a faster pace where it's like I don't even know
1285
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:32.400
if I don't know her specifically, I have.
1286
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.159
No longer, no idea how long she's been doing it.
1287
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.800
But I've just seen so many comedians where I'm like,
1288
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.800
I don't even know if you should even be You
1289
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:39.159
should be recording on your phone.
1290
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.119
There's nothing for you. You shouldn't be showing this yet.
1291
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:44.639
You got to work on the skill.
1292
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.199
Before you show it to have because like some great
1293
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:49.800
weight loss journey. Yes, look at me while I'm at
1294
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.119
my worst, and then as I improve, I'll get better.
1295
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.119
No show us when you're good, man, like you know what.
1296
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.280
I mean, or at least this is stay hidden.
1297
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.480
Nobody could even book a show or even run their
1298
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.159
own show unless they were good. Like when I started,
1299
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.760
nobody even ran a show that was new at comedy.
1300
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.440
Now you got new people that are running comedy, booking rooms,
1301
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:13.559
teaching us online.
1302
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:17.119
Teaching comedy, teaching comedy. There's just on all forms. Because
1303
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.119
it just seems so easy and accessible.
1304
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.000
If she keeps going, she's gonna be a good comic.
1305
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.360
And here's why I say that, because it, like everything else,
1306
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.960
it's reps. Yeah, the more you do something better. But
1307
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:28.840
what happened is the new thing and you touched on
1308
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.559
it is that we used to when we started stand up.
1309
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.960
We built the act, then we built the following. Now
1310
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.719
it's flipped. Yeah, people are getting this big following and
1311
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.320
now their act has to catch up to this following.
1312
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:44.119
The only way I'm going to make any money is
1313
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.159
if I go to headlining these clubs and make my money.
1314
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.199
But I'm not ready for that forty five minute set yet.
1315
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.559
A perfect example, and this before the whole social media
1316
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.159
thing happened, is Michael Yo, who's a buddy of mine
1317
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.440
and I love him. He kind of blew up because
1318
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.039
of the Chelsea Handler show and he wanted and he
1319
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.719
started doing stand up because Shell he was a guest
1320
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:04.920
on the show because he did radio.
1321
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.559
He was like a radio person. Oh yeah, and he was.
1322
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.239
He was always on the show with them, and and
1323
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.199
then he one time said I want to try comedy,
1324
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.000
and both Joe coy And and Chelsea were like really, and
1325
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.320
they got gave him not to start, and he ended
1326
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.320
up loving stand up. But like any new comic, you
1327
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.559
got to build that fucking undeniable five, then build the
1328
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.639
Undernibal ten. But then he started getting headlining gigs before
1329
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:29.360
he had that. So what he was going to do
1330
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:30.719
what he was doing, and he did it with me
1331
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:32.760
several times, is he goes, I want you to come
1332
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.920
close out. He was having the Michael Yowen friends. But
1333
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.800
he wasn't closing it out. He wasn't he was hiring us.
1334
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.679
I did the same thays out the show, and apparently
1335
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.920
some of the clubs said bro or his agents or
1336
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.920
reps or somebody said, you gotta headline your own you
1337
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.079
gotta close out your own shows. And then he built
1338
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.400
an act and of course he threw stuff in there
1339
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.199
that did you know, ate up some time, like he
1340
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:55.480
did a PowerPoint thing and all that.
1341
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.679
But here's the thing that what I did. I had
1342
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.159
an audience when I started stand up, and I didn't
1343
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:04.280
tell them. I had enough sense to know they were
1344
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.840
following me for a different podcast I was doing. I
1345
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:11.880
was doing serious debate stuff on a podcast called Dogma Debate,
1346
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.159
where I was doing religious and politics, and every now
1347
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.800
and then a funny moment would happen, but that was
1348
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.920
a separate audience. I worked on my stand up in
1349
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.719
secret and built those reps and figured that out, and
1350
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.079
then when it was time to go, you know what,
1351
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.280
I've got some decent stuff. I'm gonna put clips out.
1352
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.840
What I started doing is playing audio snippets on my
1353
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.719
podcast as an intro, like a thirty second intro. People
1354
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.599
were like, oh, you do stand up. Oh that's cool,
1355
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.800
you do comedy. And slowly but surely I introduced that audience.
1356
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.199
So even when I could have blasted it out to
1357
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.440
hundreds of thousands of podcast listeners, I was like, I'm
1358
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.679
not that good yet. I didn't feel like I was ready.
1359
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.679
People that know your religious takes to be like hackling
1360
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:51.400
like from the.
1361
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:55.880
Playoffs, talk about Jesus, right, But also you're of a generation.
1362
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:57.400
That didn't do participation trophies.
1363
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.960
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like this, this participation
1364
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.159
I'm here, Where's my reward is a big thing?
1365
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.440
Right now? Big thing right now?
1366
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.400
Okay, So you know, I want to go back to
1367
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.599
your story for the tales you were telling our friend
1368
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:16.039
Russell Peters, he blew up kind of overnight, so to speak.
1369
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.800
On YouTube and and that was like oh, three oh
1370
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.360
four something like that. And he told me he wasn't
1371
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.719
able to write fast enough for the way his audience
1372
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.119
was growing. So that's why he started doing crowd work
1373
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:30.480
out of necessity.
1374
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.239
Like he but he's got a quick brain, and he's
1375
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:32.760
a funny guy.
1376
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.239
Yes, he's very good at it. And and and the
1377
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.760
the interesting thing to me is when I before, I
1378
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.440
before I saw him live for the first time, I
1379
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.000
would watch his these crowd work specials he would do,
1380
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:47.119
and I just I didn't enjoy them.
1381
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:48.559
Do you enjoy anything?
1382
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:48.760
No?
1383
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.360
But I mean I didn't enjoy him because crowd crowd
1384
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.119
work doesn't work on TV, like Ian Bag will tell
1385
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:54.400
you that.
1386
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.360
And how good does crowds work work in the size
1387
01:01:57.400 --> 01:01:58.880
of venus he's doing?
1388
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.239
Yeah, And and but like when I saw Russell live
1389
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.400
for the first time, it's like, oh, now I get it.
1390
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:04.880
Now I understand everything.
1391
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:05.719
He fixed it.
1392
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.760
He he has camera guys and giant screens and when
1393
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.679
he goes into the crowd there it's it's a whole thing.
1394
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:14.559
The people can see who's to go right.
1395
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.840
On to the person. They're giant on the screen. But again,
1396
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:20.679
he you said he blew up in about three o four. Right, Yeah,
1397
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.239
he started doing stand up in eighty nine. So we
1398
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.880
are we're of this, of this, of this generation. I
1399
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.159
don't know what you want to call it. Well, you
1400
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:28.920
build the thing, you build, you build the thing. You
1401
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.440
don't just He's like, it's like what we did in
1402
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:34.039
comedy was like going to college for comedy because you
1403
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.840
started a level and you go through the years and
1404
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.360
you do the thing if if. In other words, you
1405
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.360
can't just walk into the O R and perform surgery.
1406
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:43.559
There's so much you have to do before that.
1407
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.760
Here's where here's where my brain went when you said
1408
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:48.079
walk into the R.
1409
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:52.559
I was thinking of comedy. Here's here's the thing I noticed.
1410
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.079
And I'm sure we've all experienced this. When you first
1411
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.920
start going, I think I could do stand up, and
1412
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:59.119
then you write, and then you get on stage and
1413
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:00.880
you say that stuff. You're like, God, it's taking me
1414
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.119
a long time to get to that punchline and it wasn't.
1415
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:04.639
Really worth it.
1416
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.840
Let me trim the fat, and so you get less
1417
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.519
words and then you try it again and go, oh,
1418
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:11.360
it got a bigger pop because they didn't have to
1419
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.719
wait so long. And so you start learning to squeeze
1420
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.480
out what you thought was a three minutes that's a
1421
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.800
forty second bit. And then you do that again, and
1422
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.599
then you do that again, and they're just compacting it
1423
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:24.800
tighter and tighter, but you're also training your brain to
1424
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.800
write immediately, and so then you get your first fifteen.
1425
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.679
That second fifteen comes faster because now you're starting to
1426
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.079
write and you're only doing one trim the fat and
1427
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.920
you go. You can immediately recognize what to trim years
1428
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:41.000
and years of reps doing it. You start realizing on
1429
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.519
stage in the moment somebody says something and you spit
1430
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.280
out the finished version of that response, and your brain
1431
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.840
is doing it so quick. Russell Peters. Russell Peters did
1432
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.360
that from eighty nine to three, so by the time,
1433
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:56.760
so not only is his writing getting better, his crowd
1434
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.440
works getting better. And just to put a button back
1435
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.280
on Natalie, she hasn't taken the time to hone those
1436
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.239
skills to learn to trim that fat. So like you said,
1437
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.440
if she keeps going, she's going to be ridiculously good and.
1438
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:11.760
To go on.
1439
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.079
I agree that that crowd work doesn't like translate as
1440
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.159
well unless you're there live.
1441
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.239
But I also think that A.
1442
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.719
Big part of it is because the best, in my opinion,
1443
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.119
the people that are the best at crowd work are
1444
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:34.119
not always the people that have the patience, finances, or
1445
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.800
opportunity to have it recorded every night in a club
1446
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.280
with a bunch of people. They're doing hole in the
1447
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.840
wall spots and or they're doing it. It's like the
1448
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.960
people that I know that are the best at it,
1449
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.280
I think it absolutely would translate on TV. I just
1450
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.239
think that the people that sometimes they pick are like, Oh,
1451
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.840
that wasn't that's that's crowd work ish.
1452
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:56.000
Let me tell you why I think it does.
1453
01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:57.199
But that's not.
1454
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.800
Let me tell you I think it doesn't translate the TV.
1455
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.239
It takes a long long time to get that one
1456
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.840
funny minute, that one funny clip that's about a minute long. Yeah,
1457
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.719
And so people will see someone like Matt Rife have
1458
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.360
a ridiculously funny crowd work clip and like, oh my god,
1459
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:13.760
I want to go buy tickets to that because they,
1460
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.159
like you said earlier, they believe it's gonna be an
1461
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.360
hour of that. And then they get there and he's
1462
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.719
doing material still funny stuff, funny for a different target audience,
1463
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.039
and then they leave there going he was okay, But man,
1464
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.719
I wanted that what you're wanting is impossible to ask.
1465
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.400
No one is going to be able to do that
1466
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:37.760
perfect of a stand up moment in crowd work sixty
1467
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.800
times in a row for sixty minutes. It's not it's
1468
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:42.079
not realistic.
1469
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.519
About expectations because like when you see, yeah, when you
1470
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.599
see somebody doing crowd work, and then that's that's what
1471
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.760
you want. When you're like, you're not gonna get the same, Yeah,
1472
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:51.119
you're not.
1473
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:51.480
You're not.
1474
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:55.639
Yeah, That's what bothers me sometimes with where crowd work
1475
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.079
is is we're being fooled.
1476
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.039
And let me tell you, Yeah, it's been happening a
1477
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.800
long time. Yeah, because you said, you know, when you
1478
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.360
think back in the day, I think I could do
1479
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:04.880
stand up. I'm gonna tell you why I thought I
1480
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.639
could do stand up, And this is what I learned
1481
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.159
after becoming a stand up Because we're watching fucking pros
1482
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.840
and they're making it look easy. And if you're if
1483
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.239
you're good enough to make it, i've you. Never we
1484
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.480
never looked at the like, ooh, he's having a hard time. Never,
1485
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.519
we were looking at pros that made it look easy,
1486
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.800
and they looked like average Joe. Guys like us yep,
1487
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:27.639
so we're like, I could do that, and then you realize, oh,
1488
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.519
they were doing took a shit ton of work. Yeah,
1489
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.960
and so many hours, so many hours.
1490
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.039
Because to me, the best crowd work is when the
1491
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:37.599
audience is not expecting it. I almost think there should
1492
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:40.719
be a different name. I don't believe that anybody that's
1493
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.519
done a crowd work show did real crowd work.
1494
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.760
No, it's not. It's it's it's a version of it.
1495
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:46.639
It's in the family.
1496
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.679
But real crowd work is done with I think it's
1497
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:52.599
it's it's a catch twenty two where it's like, it's
1498
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.239
not your fault that you're famous, but as soon as
1499
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.599
you are famous and known for crowd work, you have
1500
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.800
audience members coming planning.
1501
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:01.239
They remember that.
1502
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:04.239
They got the amount of anxiety I would have if
1503
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:05.920
I had to go to an audience, if I had
1504
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.800
to watch a comedian just of just.
1505
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.639
How long have you guys known each other? And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
1506
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:12.679
all right, I didn't know.
1507
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.519
I had to study with me and my girlfriend before
1508
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.639
I came here. For me to remember all the ship
1509
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.199
about our lives.
1510
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.840
It's like buy a ticket.
1511
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:23.519
Yeah, So it's like it doesn't come naturally, and so
1512
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:25.760
to me, the best crowd work I've seen is when
1513
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.840
there's people that I don't know who the I don't
1514
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:29.599
even know who the fuck this guy is on stage
1515
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.360
and I have no reason to like him, but he
1516
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.519
still found a way to do crowd work and make
1517
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:36.159
me like him.
1518
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:37.360
That's just way more genuine.
1519
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:41.000
It's either that or it's the crowd work like some
1520
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.679
comedians who they it's it's it's quasi crowd work where
1521
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.239
it feels organic to the audience. But when you watch
1522
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.719
that person, you see that they've got they've got four
1523
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.079
or five slotted answers.
1524
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:55.880
Christia was great CrowdWork, but I remember going, oh, he
1525
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.039
had that locked in at.
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It's like a magic.
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They have stock answers and then they pull them out
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when it's appropriate. What I've noticed is I'll do like
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these uh, I'll do like these don't tell shows or something,
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and there's like a row of video cameras in the
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back behind the audience, and a lot of comics I'll
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see break their set to start doing crowd work because
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they're fishing for that moment.
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Yeah, And that's the thing, if you have to fish
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for it and it's just not naturally there. And here's
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and here's the thing problem at the clubs uh the
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haha stop said stop bringing your cameras because they were
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taking up the whole back of the room like it
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was a press junket or something. Yeah, and it's like no, no.
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No to the comics doing that. Just ask yourself, do
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you really want to go viral for that? Because people
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may start saying, oh, I want to buy tickets to that,
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and you'll sell tickets once and then three hundred people
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01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:53.960
will leave pissed off and disappointed and never buy your
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01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.439
tickets again. Just be careful because what you ask for.
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What I think is happening also is that they're not
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thinking that far because now likes and follows is money.
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That's the currency. They think about the next clip, and
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01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:10.640
I think about what's my hour going to be?
1550
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:12.760
How is this going to fit it? To affect the show?
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Like I did a show in Long Beach to the
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young lady that was hosting, such a sweetheart, but I
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01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.239
noticed something. I go, oh, she's setting her camera up,
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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.640
so now she's not going to host the show. Because
1555
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:23.399
you guys all know as when you were at the
1556
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:25.960
level where you're hosting the show, it's our job to
1557
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.640
check in with the audience, build that energy. Well now
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01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.239
I'm like, she's not gonna do that. She's just gonna
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do her little set now for her clip, and is
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01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.479
exactly what happened. And she bombed so bad, and I
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01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:41.680
felt bad for her because she she couldn't like redeem
1562
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it like in other words, she would go up between
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01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.920
comics and try to do a bit, and every comic
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01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:49.319
on the show had to do what I call the
1565
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:50.760
janitor spot where you have to clean.
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Up a little bit, because it brought the show whoa.
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01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.119
And then the comic will kill and I was like,
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01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:57.439
finally the first comic kill.
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01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:57.760
We're good.
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Now she went up told another thing and they were
1571
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.520
just done with her. They didn't like her after.
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01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.920
That, and hopefully people learned that. The reason I call
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01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:08.159
the show serious Circus is because I do as I
1574
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:10.439
want to have fun as a comedy podcast, I also
1575
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.279
want to have at least one serious conversation about comedy.
1576
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.560
I was in the car with my wife when I
1577
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.239
came up with the name of it. My my CPA
1578
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.079
CALLMS like, Hey, I'm filing for your your company name.
1579
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:23.960
I need two words that are gonna go. And I
1580
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:25.199
just looked at my wife and I go, what two
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01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.680
words describe me? And she goes serious circus and I
1582
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.600
was like, holy shit, that's what perfect because how often
1583
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.039
do we plan We sit down and have the most
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01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.560
ridiculous conversation like do I do I put the fart
1585
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:39.079
joke before after the little kid with braces, like and
1586
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:41.880
but these are real things. If our group text got out,
1587
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.960
well yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, this was this was perfect.
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01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:46.199
We are out of time. I want to thank y'
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01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:48.399
all for coming. Tell everybody how they can find out
1590
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:48.800
more about you.
1591
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.319
Let's start with Jay. You can find me on Instagram.
1592
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:53.000
God hates Jay, just the letter J.
1593
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:55.039
I am not on TikTok, so you will not see
1594
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:57.199
videos of the slurping ice cream.
1595
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.000
No, but there's videos on another side of him slurping
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01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:01.119
something else. Go ahead and toast.
1597
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.479
I'm on all social media at Jeff Horst j E
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01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.239
F F H O R S t E.
1599
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.560
Or you can follow my cat. I'm trying to get
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01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:10.520
my cat famous. Who cuts an influencer?
1601
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:12.079
Now, what's your cats at?
1602
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:16.199
Symbol with the thumbs, Simba with the thumb, Simba with
1603
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:17.720
the thumbs polydactyl.
1604
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.279
All right, he does tricks, he skateboards. I can't wait
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01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.319
to see. This'd be great.
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01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.520
I'm gonna follow immediately, Jason, Jason.
1607
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.520
I'm at Jason Collins on all social media and it's
1608
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.359
c O L L I n gs at Jason Collings.
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01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:34.000
Also check out my podcast Generation Gap on all platforms.
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01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:35.520
Generation Gap with Jason Collings.
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01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.479
Do you have guests on your show? Not yet, just
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01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.840
two of us, okay, but we will Okay. I mean
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01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:42.560
I happen to know a father daughter who do a
1614
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.479
generation based thing. Yeah, that would be great to fit
1615
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:46.920
with that.
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01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:48.119
I love this idea.
1617
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:49.960
It'll be it'll be the new Jetsons meet.
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01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.159
Who's the it's you and your brother, my brothers.
1619
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.960
My brother's producing me and Sam Hirschgolder.
1620
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:58.920
The podcast its Generation Gap because he's thirty, I'm fifty five,
1621
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.680
and we just but what we're just having a silly time.
1622
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:02.600
We're just having a good time.
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01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:06.359
Friend, I wasn't her waiting? Ga? Nice? Yeah? Well yeah,
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01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.039
what is she seventies? Fifty four?
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01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.079
All right, thanks yall. I appreciate talking out