EP. 230 Rooster

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Here we go get the other.
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And we have tonight.
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And we go back pretty good.
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Quite a few years later.
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And not long ago, we got Dowtra and we got to tell a little story about it.
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Going on.
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And that video went viral on every platform so far.
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So I mean, uh for people that are listening right now, there might be a little coarse language here because if you got young ears on there, you might want to let it come out.
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We uh we we do encourage uh everybody's free to feet.
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And uh we try to at least give a little warning if we can.
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So without further ado, we got the legendary North Carolina mountain man, O Rooster.
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What's going on, buddy?
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Uh just sitting around, listening to the pickets and the bugs, chatter along, come in the house and feeding dogs.
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Yeah, you got you uh a yard full of them, huh?
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I've got a pass of the loop them little bastards now.
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Think so you done got back into them terriers pretty heavy, ain't you?
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Yeah, and you know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
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I've um I've always fooled with a dog of some kind, you know.
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I mean, I I field child beagles, I I've run fox dogs, well, fox hounds, but I run them on coyotes, fire dogs, hog dogs, bay pen, you name it.
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I and I've always left a big, loud, hard treeing dog.
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But now I'm just gonna tell you, if you can't have fun with a terrier, you just need to stay on the porch or just go get into the damn Hot Wheels or something.
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I don't know, but these terriers are just a blast, man.
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And no, I I am I am relatively new to the Terriers as far as terriers.
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Now I had them prior, you know, a couple of years ago when I raised a lizard rebel.
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Uh we won't get into that, but um I hey, I'm just telling you, I I don't believe there is a more versatile dog than a Jag Terrier.
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Yeah, they are uh they're definitely something, you know, I've had them for going on 20 years, I guess, now, and I I d I have no complaint.
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There's plenty of times where I wish I just kept them and didn't have nothing else.
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But you know, I like footing with the hounds now.
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Uh ain't nothing wrong with a with a loudmouth dog, you know.
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Oh, don't get me wrong.
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I mean, I you know my my pastime as long as I can remember has always been camera.
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You know what I mean?
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What what tell us tell us about let's let's let's back up, let's get into that.
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Let's go into you know where are you from?
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Where were you born and raised at?
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Uh how old are you, or if you want to tell anybody that, and then you know, how did you get into the hunting?
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Were you raised in it?
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Did your grandpa get you into it?
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You know, tell us some of that and and what you started out with.
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Uh so uh I live in Silva, North Carolina, uh roughly 20 minutes from uh the Cherokee Indian Reservation.
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And uh I moved to North Carolina in 1998 when my mama's brother got murdered.
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Uh I was born in Gainesville, Georgia, and I lived in uh Banks County until 98.
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Moved up here in 98 of November of 98.
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And uh, you know, my mama's sister, my aunt, uh you know, she had some kids, and uh Ricky is my cousin.
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He's a few years older than me.
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And uh they always had a pastel of dogs, you know.
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And um I'd been up here, I don't know, two or three weeks.
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I don't know.
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And uh I wanted to spend the night with Ric, you know, I was just little.
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And uh he said, Yeah, yeah, you you can stay, you know, whatever.
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So, and then that night now he said, You want to go cane hunting?
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And I said, Well, I mean, I didn't know what the hell cane hunting was.
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I I was from basically the city, you know what I mean?
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Everybody down there deer hunted, that's you know.
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And uh but at that time in my life when I was that yet little, I didn't know nothing about I didn't know nothing about fishing, hunting, or nothing.
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All I knowed about was hot wheels and matchbox corn.
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And uh I remember it to this day, he had a his favorite breed of dog to this day is red bones.
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And uh he had a he had a male and a female litter mate, and obviously everybody in the country knows what these two dogs' names were old Dan and Lil Ann.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I I remember it was cold.
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God, it was cold.
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I mean, I come from I come from Georgia, and I'm up there in the mountains, and I froze to death.
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Like I fell asleep four or five times.
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Now I had a blast.
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And uh I believe if I'm not mistaken, we knocked the coon out.
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Uh now, am I gonna tell you now that I know what a dog is versus those dogs?
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Am I gonna tell you they were cooned dogs?
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Nah, I mean, they wasn't my style of dog now that I know what a good dog is, but they treat cane.
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And uh it just led from that, basically.
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So that was around 90, that was probably December, January of 98.
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And uh a little long later, you know, a couple of maybe a month or two months, or hell, I don't know.
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Uh, I I went a couple more times, you know, but I didn't really get my first dog that was mine until I was probably uh my dad died in 2004 when I was 15.
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I got my first dog when I was about 16, 15 or 16.
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I got it.
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I got him from Ernie Fredway and Coley Treadway of Liberty, South Carolina.
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He was a red kick dog.
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And I guess that's where my passion for red tick English dogs come from.
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They was English men, and they give me that dog.
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That dog's name was uh, I remember what he meant what I named him.
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I named him Tree Talking Ralph, and he was he was a mere image of what an English red kick dog is supposed to look like, you know, just covered in ticks, open mark, where he's supposed to be, just a beautiful dog.
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Um he was a puppy, he was about seven months old, but he was dumb as hell.
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And uh I got him to go.
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And I mean, I I I drag him around with uh with my papa's mag light, and by myself, I'd just walk him around in the middle of the night, you know, young, didn't know what I was doing, and then he'd he'd start running and giving mouth and he'd start treeing some trash.
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He'd started treeing some trash, some possums.
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Well, hell, I didn't care what he treated.
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I'd go up there and I'd knock it out.
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Well, uh a few nights went by and that boy, I was bragging on that old dog.
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And uh I I told my mama that I was gonna go hunting, and she said, Well, whatever, you know.
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I was pretty I had, you know, I grew up kind of rough.
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We won't get into that, but uh I didn't really have no curfews, you know, be home when the street light came on, type deal.
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I didn't have none of that.
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So uh I remembered uh I went and I turned loose uh on the branch above my house, and it's nothing but laurel pads, laurel thickets, and it's you know, just straight up.
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And uh I turned him loose and he was he literally was off my lead 40 seconds and he struck bigger than hell.
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And I said, Good God, boy, I got excited.
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Well, he he ran around through the dirt and he finally treated and he treated on the big persimmon tree.
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And at this time, at that time I didn't know what a damn persimmon tree was, it was just a tree to me.
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But uh I get there and I take that old Mag Light, and there's mama, there's my there's my mama's Himalayan cat set.
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Oh well.
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I said, Well, now this somebody's done a really fine job.
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Oh shit.
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So I I probably wasn't 200 yards from the house.
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So I run back down the branch, and he's standing up there just blowing the top out of that tree.
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And uh I run back to the house and I got Papa's gun, and I run back up there, and then I contemplated and I know if I shoot this cat out, and my mama finds out she is gonna beat the hell out of me.
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And then I got to think, well, my mama's had knee surgery, she can't really run too fast.
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So I just I let that damn little 22 rifle eat, and out come the damn cat.
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And that red chick dog and that damn house cat, they fought, goddamn, all up down that creek.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because I was young.
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I mean, I didn't know where to shoot them things or nothing, you know.
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So I hell I just shot it one time and it jumped out.
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That dog and that cat fought.
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Well, anyhow, I I was not too intelligent back then.
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Hell, I ain't too smart now.
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But I touched the damn thing and I laid it on top of the dog house beside where I tied Ralph, and my mama woke up and she seen that house cat laid up fire.
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Let's just let's just say old Ralph didn't get turned loose for a little while.
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Yeah.
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I heard that.
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Well, uh then I then I, you know, I kind of I got tied in with another old man, and he and he he was a dog trader.
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I'm not gonna lie to you.
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Uh I I'm not gonna say his name, but he's really popular around here.
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He no longer is able or, you know, he's got naids.
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He don't got dogs no more.
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But I will say this this man lost his arm in a car wreck or a logging accident, one of the two, and drove a straight drive for Dranger.
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Damn.
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He lost his arm.
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Okay.
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He lost his arm in a in a car wreck or a logging accident, one of the two.
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But he lost his right arm, didn't hell on at all, and drove a straight drive like dead arn hard on Tatadega.
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Shit.
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And uh yeah, but now you have to watch this old man.
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He he had some re he had some real hands.
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But now them old trade dogs, you know, uh, you know, that was back when I was, you know, kind of like getting into the rooster business, too.
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He'd say, well, if you you know, you come up here, I'd trade him two or three old plug dogs for damn ten or fifteen old roosters he had running around there, and we just trade back and forth, and Lord I bet I went to two or three hundred dogs from him.
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And uh that's that's where my that's that's pretty much the the root of it right there.
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And uh then uh I was invited to go about.
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And uh I said, Well, I I don't want my dog to get killed.
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I mean I kind of felt like a little boy on the red fern growth.
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I mean I I kind of like small dogs.
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And uh well, sure enough, there was one, there was one run right in front of us, right across the road.
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And old Ralph ran that head out, and I mean he was shaking the box.
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And I remember they said, You gonna turn him loose?
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And I said, I don't know.
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They said you better turn him loose.
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They said he'll never make nothing in the dog box.
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Well, hell I got out and I turned him loose, pretty much face packing.
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And he went across the hill there, out of sight with the rest of the dogs.
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And uh probably an hour later.
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Now, this was before a Garmin.
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This was beat beat day.
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Mm-hmm.
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And uh I'm gonna say, well, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I'm gonna say, I don't even know, 2005, 60s, summer's around that time.
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Uh or or there might have there may have been garmines, but not really.
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Garmin's hadn't really hit these mountains yet.
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Yeah, that's that's the way it was here.
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It was it was probably 2010 before we really got them going.
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Yeah, and uh anyhow, they went out of sight, went out of the hearing, and uh we treated the buyer.
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And boy, I was just excited, and we got about 60 yards of them, and boy, I was getting pumped because I just knowed my red pick dog was at that tree.
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When we got to that tree, my red pick dog was not at that tree.
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And uh you know, we we tied dogs back, uh the you know, they dealt with the bear and uh then the hunt rolled out went went in the place.
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And uh obviously no going so you can't you can't retrace track basically, so you just have to kind of guess, you know what I mean?
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Oh yeah.
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And uh I literally just was stumped and they said just walk up on that ridge right there and just listen.
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Well, I walked up on that ridge and um literally got up there behind the lark, but it's very late.
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And it looked like he had just literally that buyer, I got this he then tried the bulldog that fucking fire, I don't know.
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But that was that was the end of all route.
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Damn.
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And he was probably 15 or 16 months old, and he was making, I mean, I think he was gonna make an A1 cone dog.
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That was the first fire he'd ever seen, and obviously the damn last one.
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Mm-hmm.
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But that's the way it goes with any game, you know, anything, you know, hogs or buyers, you know, or or hell, even deer deer hunters.
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Yeah.
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Turn a dog loose, that might be the last time you get to turn him loose.
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That's a fact.
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That's a fact.
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Uh that that can be.
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And you know, dressing, start dressing and getting involved with some more in-depth, like I I guess you call them in-depth, in-depth, you know, town.
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Uh because I'm not gonna lie to you.
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These are a whole bunch of people here, and I'm sure they know where you're at, and all over the country.
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They've got a dog box and they've got shit.
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They've got a dog box full of dogs, and they're a buyer hunter, but ain't got shit in the box worth of dance.
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That's right.
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And I started getting involved with some more in-depth people, and then um, you know, several years went by and I went to a few old dogs, but I never really had a tune dog, you know, per se.
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And um, well, I there's an old man here, and he he's he's what I'd call a dog traitor, but now he don't he don't have no junk per se.
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Like if he tells you something about it, that's that's what it is.
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And he calls me and he said, Son, I want you to come try this dog.
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He said, Uh I think you'll like him.
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Well, now I'll just give you a little detail on this man.
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This man it had to be 100% silent.
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100%.
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He didn't want to hear that son of bitch nowhere unless it was free.
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Well, I go get this dog.
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Now, Joel, you you just sit back and listen and think real hard, and you'll know this dog.
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I already do.
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I already do, I believe.
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I I went and picked up a big, pretty open spot in black and white English movie.
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Yep, yeah, I know the dog.
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And this dog, I this dog's name was Jack.
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And I said, Well, what's his fault?
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And he said, Well, I like him silent, and he's not silent enough for me.
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Well, in my opinion, I run a hound because I want to hear him.
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You know, people run a jake break on a truck because they want to hear that damn thing.
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Well, I go get him and I take him and me and another buddy or two.
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I said, hell, I'll go with you.
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I'm gonna try this old dog out.
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And uh that night I trade three singles with that black and white dog.
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And them other boys' dogs never never barked a lick.
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They me too'd a time or two, but they didn't they didn't run no track.
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Well, I thought I might have had something.
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Well, a couple days went by and no fellow cow and t like you know.
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And I'm drinking.
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Anyhow, long story short, I I can't I continued hunting this dog, continued hunting this dog.
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And the second season I had this dog, that fall I knocked out uh like 72 coons.
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And that's you know, that's a lot of cones in the mountains of North Carolina.
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Oh, yeah, I think doubles, that's not triples, that's that's single coon.
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And we was uh me and my cousin, my little cousin, we was head of the coon hunting.
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And I had two or three little old puppets in the box, and I had old Jack in the box.
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And we stopped at the gas station, and I run into a fella that happened to have a shirt on, and the shirt either said siloed kennels or it might have said it said just raping.
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Well, I was intrigued.
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I didn't know what the hell a bay pen was.
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And uh we got to talking and he said uh why don't you bring in old Raggedy Ace Ken dogs down here and see how they'll do on the high?
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Well, a lot of people listening will remember when I was bayon dog, I run under the name Team Raggedy, and that's where that comes from.
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And literally I had a million of millions of dollars of fun going to them bait ends with that black and white dog.
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Of course, I took a few other dogs at the time, but that black and white dog, I'm not bragging, but I placed for one ever hound class that I ever put him in.
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Yep.
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But you could not pour that thing on a big game track to save your life.
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He wouldn't pop someone.
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Uh I won the I won the National Playhound Association, big game national.
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I won the Bayana Hog Bay in event with him.
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Uh uh, but now you you could turn a hog loose in front of him.
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He'd play it all day long.
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You take him in the woods and face back a red hot bird track, he'll go right on to the tree coon.
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Coon dog.
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He was an absolute coondog, I'm telling you.
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There were so many people in the baking industry that tried to buy him, and I'm like, dude, that's my coon dog.
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I'm I no, I just this is just fun for me, you know.
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I don't don't ask me why this dog is literally the straightest, trashy dog I've ever had.
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Uh and I mean there was there was I don't think you could have you could have not made that dog run anything but a coon.
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He was solid.
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Uh well I lied.
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I was our I so my first handheld garment was not the 320.
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Now, what was the gray one?
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The the 220.
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All right, the one after that was a 320, right?
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Yeah, the 220, the 320, yeah.
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320 was orange and black.
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Yeah, all right.
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So I had a 320, all right.
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And uh that old black and white dog, I'm sitting here looking at a picture of him, and I had a walker bitch that I named Olive Oil.
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And then two dogs was good.
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But now he had one fault, but I fixed him of that fault.
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If that son bitch came across the skunk, he'd run it and he'd catch it.
00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:56.420
Well, that all changed when that old alpha come out.
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Yeah.
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And I made him I made him stand on his fucking hippie toes one night and he he never he didn't I guess he wanted no more that you I've never found many dogs that can take much electricity.
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He didn't like that shit.
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No, no, but and then I had my run in, you know, I I had my run in, you know, at the bay pen and that come to an end, and you know, since, you know, I've I've always fooled with a dog.
00:21:30.340 --> 00:21:36.020
I've always always had a you know, bulldog, uh uh cat squirrel dog.
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I mean, so you was handling you was competition squirrel hunting, wouldn't you, for a while?
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I I I I was hunting for a fella, yes, sir.
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Uh and those were now now don't get me wrong.
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Uh Marty Muns is as fine a man as you'll ever meet in this in the world.
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And and he had some power.
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I mean, when I say power, I'm talking these dogs is going in hunting for you know twenty thousand dollar paychecks, trucks, side by side, just like cane hunting, but that a damn squirrel.
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Yeah.
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And I and I had a privilege and opportunity to hunt some dog for him.
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Uh and it it was, I I guess you would say short-lived, but not at file with me or Marty, and I'll explain why.
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I live and it's rough as hell here.
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Rough.
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All right.
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There's rough places in Alabama, there's rough places in Kentucky.
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But where I live is just, I mean, it's just rough.
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Plain and simple.
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And when when, you know, when I was when I was hunting in competition dogs and squirrel dogs, sometimes it takes me it take me longer than it needed to take me to get there.
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And plus we just really don't got the we don't got the squirrel population.
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You know what I mean?
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All the squirrels here are in somebody's yard on their bird feeder, not back on the game lands.
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And and I just it was just It just wasn't working out if that makes sense.
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You know what I mean?
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So no uh uh no issues or nothing like that.
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It's just you know what what the population of squirrels like we like a native and the and the terrain just too rough, really.
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And so that that kind of you know me and Marty we'll we still talk about we we still talk five or six times a week.
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Uh but yeah, I I'm actually sitting here looking at uh at an award that I won.
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You may have been there.
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Uh at Mark Bannister's AP and at Hickory Charleston.
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Uh I won the Sportsman Award and I've got trophies and flacks everywhere, but that one is by far probably my all-time favorite.
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Yeah, that I know that old Sportsmanship Award, it's uh I don't know, it hits you a little different, I guess.
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I got I won one a few years ago out there, same place, and it just I've been going there for years and years, you know.
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And I I don't know.
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It just like you said, I I treasure it more than I do any of them.
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Yeah, that was the 2018 Cherry Bandeaux Memorial, and I won the Sportsman Award during that.
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And I mean I've got I've got roaster trophies and Beagle trophies and cane hunting and plot trophies.
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Now I'm not a plot man, but you know, from plot events.
00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:31.220
Yeah, but that that sportsman award was probably to this day my favorite dog trophy that I've ever won.
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Uh it just meant a lot to me because I was such a newcomer into that world of the baby pin.
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And, you know, everybody just kind of took me took me in and just made me feel at home.
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And I I I don't know.
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I guess my personality and everything just kind of helped me win it.
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And I I I was thankful and Lord, I just I I really like that trophy.
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That was probably gonna be I don't know if I'll ever win another trophy or anything that'll mean as much as that one.
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There you go.
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So you you said you were, you know, been to a lot of the plot events and where you live at, you're in you're you're in plot country.
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Absolutely.
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I I mean 100%.
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Why are you not what what's the deal with the plots?
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What do you what do you not like about them that keeps you from from having plots or in the past or or even in the future?
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What what would what what's the deal with them?
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What don't you like?
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Uh oh, hold on a sec.
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I guess we uh I guess I lost them.
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There we go.
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Hey, I got you back.
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You there?
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Damn house window.
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Oh, okay.
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Sorry.
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Uh yeah, I got my phone in the window.
00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:52.420
Oh, okay.
00:25:52.660 --> 00:25:54.260
That way you can get some good service.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was it was on the ass it was on the as talk units.
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I got you.
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Well, uh, but uh I don't know.
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Did you hear what I'm saying?
00:26:05.460 --> 00:26:07.220
You were saying why why not a plot man?
00:26:07.860 --> 00:26:09.300
Yeah, yep, that's it.
00:26:09.540 --> 00:26:10.500
What what's the deal?
00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:15.300
Well, uh, so I I've been around a bunch of them.
00:26:15.380 --> 00:26:16.820
I mean, I've got some really good buddies.
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It's die hard, plot men.
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I mean, all right, so here's my deal.
00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:26.020
And with, you know, there's good and bad in everything.
00:26:26.260 --> 00:26:30.100
Badaholas, Kemmers, Walker's, look, there's good and bad in all of them.
00:26:30.740 --> 00:26:31.060
Yeah.
00:26:31.460 --> 00:26:35.460
But look there's two things about a plot.
00:26:35.620 --> 00:26:41.220
Now, there's probably gonna be people that rake me, uh rake me to death about this comment.
00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:42.180
All right.
00:26:42.420 --> 00:26:54.900
One, I I personally think a plot is just I just think they're too damn rough when they don't necessarily need to be that rough in certain scenarios.
00:26:57.060 --> 00:27:02.820
Uh and then the next one, now again, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be beat up on this.
00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:07.780
At least where I'm from, I've not seen a plot coon dog worth a day.
00:27:10.100 --> 00:27:14.020
Now that I'm not saying there's not plot dogs out there that can't treat coons.
00:27:15.300 --> 00:27:20.740
But me personally, I've never seen one consistent enough that I personally like.
00:27:21.700 --> 00:27:27.220
And I and I mean, Joey, I'll just tell you, if I'm gonna feed it, I want it to look dirty.
00:27:27.300 --> 00:27:30.980
And I just don't think a damn plot is a pretty dog, in my opinion.
00:27:31.540 --> 00:27:35.700
I like I like I like a big, I like a big oak marked red kick dog.
00:27:36.100 --> 00:27:37.140
There you go.
00:27:38.260 --> 00:27:42.100
I mean, and nothing else, not just plot.
00:27:42.260 --> 00:27:44.900
I don't like red bones, and I don't like blackened cans.
00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:47.940
Not saying they're not good ones out there.
00:27:48.100 --> 00:27:49.700
I just personally don't like them.
00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:54.580
Because to me, all right, to me, a plot, a black and tan, and a red bone.
00:27:56.340 --> 00:27:59.940
You can take twenty red bones and line them up inside each other because they have the red one just alike.
00:28:00.100 --> 00:28:02.180
Same thing with a plot and a black and tan.
00:28:03.780 --> 00:28:05.940
I mean, but but they're just not for me.
00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:08.660
Now, I have money with some red bones on fire.
00:28:09.860 --> 00:28:12.020
Uh phenomenal dogs.
00:28:12.580 --> 00:28:19.140
Uh there's a guy locally that's got some black dogs and black and tans, and and they catch meat with them.
00:28:19.300 --> 00:28:22.660
Uh and everybody around here's got plots.
00:28:22.740 --> 00:28:28.100
I mean, plots, walkers, and English dogs are primarily the three breeds around here.
00:28:28.420 --> 00:28:29.140
I gotcha.
00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:39.620
Uh you know, I'm not a plot man, but I've been a member of every hound association that there is at one point in time.
00:28:39.780 --> 00:28:44.740
I was a member for the Redbone Association, the blue pig, black and tan, and so on and so on.
00:28:44.900 --> 00:28:51.220
And I've got I've got everything ever published.
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:53.700
Uh really.
00:28:54.740 --> 00:29:03.060
And I guess I really keep those just because I I like reading them old hunt stores, you know, not just necessarily looking at them old plots, you know.
00:29:03.140 --> 00:29:05.300
I mean, like I say, I'm not I'm not down in the plot.
00:29:05.380 --> 00:29:11.060
I've killed buyers and plots, you know, but I just I'm not a plot man.
00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:16.980
As a matter of fact, I've got a t-shirt that I wear a lot that is from the APA.
00:29:17.300 --> 00:29:18.020
Uh-huh.
00:29:18.260 --> 00:29:22.580
As a matter of fact, Gary Bowen brought it to me at the band one time.
00:29:23.780 --> 00:29:26.420
Uh I I don't have nothing against them.
00:29:26.580 --> 00:29:29.620
I just, they're not, they're not my they're not my dogs.
00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:33.060
Yeah, and I mean there ain't there ain't nothing wrong with that.
00:29:33.140 --> 00:29:42.740
You know, that I hear people, you know, and and I talk a little trash here and there going on, look, if if I find a good plot, I promise you I'm gonna feed it.
00:29:42.820 --> 00:29:44.420
But it's gotta be what I want.
00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:49.940
No matter if it's a plot hound, a walker dog, red tick, blue tick, whatever, like you said.
00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:58.420
Um that doesn't mean, you know, there's certain reasons why I don't gravitate toward that particular breed.
00:29:58.900 --> 00:30:03.380
My reason is they're too rough for where I hunt and what I'm doing.
00:30:03.860 --> 00:30:10.580
Uh if I want rough dogs like that, I'll run some bird bulls on in a pack of cags, you know, and we'll get it done.
00:30:11.060 --> 00:30:17.460
But at the same time, I'm not gonna fault the man because he he likes plots and he enjoys them.
00:30:17.620 --> 00:30:19.780
And if he loves them, I love them.
00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:21.140
You know, no problem.
00:30:21.300 --> 00:30:31.140
Hey, if he's all that matters, that's if he's happy with the man, look, it and it and here's the thing, they don't have to, they don't have to please me at all.
00:30:31.460 --> 00:30:33.460
Not one single bit.
00:30:34.180 --> 00:30:39.780
They could be the scariest possum dogs you've ever seen in your life, just like most plots, you know.
00:30:39.860 --> 00:30:41.300
And blue ticks, no blue ticks.
00:30:41.540 --> 00:30:45.700
Patsy blue ticks are possum dogs, but they got the possum swingers.
00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:48.100
Oh boot ticks, yeah, old boot ticks.
00:30:48.980 --> 00:30:51.220
If I ain't gonna part of the country, they want that.
00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:59.140
Hey, I'm telling you, I got an old blue tick out there right now if you get it.
00:31:00.580 --> 00:31:03.620
But I bring her to a walker dog and make me some crosses.
00:31:04.820 --> 00:31:05.140
Yeah.
00:31:05.620 --> 00:31:07.460
Run a running walker at that.
00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:12.660
Hey, hey, now, now listen.
00:31:13.700 --> 00:31:20.100
I like, no, I love a good running dog.
00:31:20.260 --> 00:31:23.620
Now I had some and I and I traded.
00:31:23.940 --> 00:31:32.100
I I I got this little old cur dog from a fella, and this dog was supposed to three squirrels in the daylight and three cones at night.
00:31:32.260 --> 00:31:37.940
This dog was bred better than uh it was bred better than anything.
00:31:38.020 --> 00:31:40.500
I mean, this dog was top-notch bred.
00:31:40.980 --> 00:31:41.620
All right.
00:31:42.260 --> 00:31:46.900
And uh and at that time I didn't really know much about the cur breeding.
00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:50.820
And uh this was back during my bay pen days.
00:31:50.980 --> 00:31:55.860
And uh, well, I got the little cur and hell, I took him to quarrel hunting, and hell I couldn't he never made a tree.
00:31:56.100 --> 00:32:03.700
Took him coon hunting and uh I I took him with the black and white dog.
00:32:03.780 --> 00:32:07.460
I wanted to test his oil because I knew I had a coon dog, you know what I mean?
00:32:07.700 --> 00:32:08.340
That's right.
00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:15.220
And uh I took him and uh the the black and white dog and the cur dog split.
00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:23.700
I took him to the dairy farm, it's right down below the house, and uh I checked my garment and that damn cur was standing in the fucking road.
00:32:24.500 --> 00:32:30.820
Well, my black and white dog he he crawled, he peeked the top and sat down the tree.
00:32:31.060 --> 00:32:32.900
Well, I knew he would be there.
00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:40.500
So I went back down towards the road, crossed the fence, got back down there, gonna try to at least catch this turtle.
00:32:41.620 --> 00:32:51.220
Why that son of a bitch seen my headlight on my coon light, and he hit that black top, and I mean he was like greased lightning coming up the road.
00:32:51.380 --> 00:32:55.380
Well, me and the old girl I was dating with, we hit up the road after.
00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:59.060
And she was up there trying to coax him, come here, baby, come here, baby.
00:32:59.220 --> 00:33:01.460
I said, Fuck that sorry son of a bitch.
00:33:02.260 --> 00:33:03.540
And uh she said, why?
00:33:03.620 --> 00:33:05.300
I said, hand me that fucking shotgun.
00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:06.340
I'll get my car.
00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:13.460
Well, I I literally was Ace Ventura fixing to kill that son of a bitch.
00:33:14.180 --> 00:33:17.940
Well, she said, Don't do that, don't do that.
00:33:18.100 --> 00:33:20.180
She said, Let's just catch him and you trade him off.
00:33:20.260 --> 00:33:21.780
I said, We can't catch him.
00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:25.860
Well, and my for about three hours.
00:33:26.020 --> 00:33:34.020
We finally caught the car dog, put it in the box, took my collar off of him, and uh a couple days later, another dog trader.
00:33:34.180 --> 00:33:36.740
Now he is a dog trader, sure enough.
00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:40.020
He called me and said, Son, I've got just what you need.
00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:44.100
I've got four of the best cow dogs you've ever seen.
00:33:44.420 --> 00:33:49.460
Now, 90% of the time you can't believe a damn thing he says about a dog.
00:33:50.100 --> 00:33:52.420
I said, Well, I've just got what you need.
00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:53.620
He said, What's that?
00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:57.700
And I tell him about the carrot, he said, Yeah, I'll trade you the car dogs for the four running dogs.
00:33:58.020 --> 00:33:59.140
I said, All right.
00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:01.380
Didn't necessarily need four more dogs.
00:34:01.460 --> 00:34:04.100
I had about 12 already, but I went and got them.
00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:09.219
He told me, he said, you can't take this red male to the fox pen over there.
00:34:09.380 --> 00:34:11.539
They said, they've done banned him.
00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:16.740
I said, Well, they might have banned you with him, but they don't know who the hell I am with him.
00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:18.500
Sure enough.
00:34:18.740 --> 00:34:22.260
I go over there and I and I worked out with the man that owned the pen.
00:34:22.740 --> 00:34:31.379
And I got Wednesday nights, I'd get off work and I'd go over there and I'd turn my dogs loose and I'd I'd listen to them run until about 9:30 or 10 o'clock.
00:34:31.459 --> 00:34:33.459
And then I'd come home and go to bed.
00:34:33.619 --> 00:34:40.419
And then the girl I was with, she would, when she get off, uh, she'd go over there and load them up, bring them home.
00:34:41.539 --> 00:34:48.500
About three or four weeks later, the man asked me if uh my dogs had been catching coyotes, and I told him the truth.
00:34:48.579 --> 00:34:50.259
I said, Hell, I don't know.
00:34:50.739 --> 00:34:58.500
I said, The last time I seen my dogs, they had that black coyote going through the field out there, and I mean they were stretching its ice across through there.
00:34:58.979 --> 00:35:03.059
Well, long story short, they banned the red dog again.
00:35:04.500 --> 00:35:08.339
And uh they said, they told me, they said, That red dog looks like he comes from such and such.
00:35:08.419 --> 00:35:09.219
I said, No, no.
00:35:09.299 --> 00:35:10.179
They said, Yeah, he did.
00:35:10.819 --> 00:35:11.699
I said, How do you know?
00:35:11.859 --> 00:35:15.779
He said, son, you ain't never took his number off of him.
00:35:16.979 --> 00:35:20.179
Well, hell, I didn't know nothing about taking no numbers off no dogs.
00:35:20.259 --> 00:35:22.419
I didn't even know how to put a number on a dog.
00:35:23.219 --> 00:35:29.859
Well, anyhow, I ended up, I ended up after that, you know, pretty much just getting rid of the fox dog.
00:35:30.259 --> 00:35:31.939
But I had a lot of fun with him.
00:35:32.019 --> 00:35:33.699
I mean a lot of fun with them.
00:35:33.859 --> 00:35:42.179
And uh if I if I could if I had some right now, you can't run deer here legally.
00:35:42.499 --> 00:35:50.419
But I'm telling you, Joey, I drive around every night, and if I seen a doe in your yard, I don't give a damn if it's your yard or Donald Trump's yard.
00:35:50.499 --> 00:35:54.259
I would pack right in the yard and just sit back and listen.
00:35:54.579 --> 00:35:58.019
I'd have to try to some bitches in Western North Carolina.
00:35:58.499 --> 00:36:02.259
If I had some box out there, but I don't I hell I don't make none.
00:36:02.339 --> 00:36:06.659
I got these terriers and uh I've got some big plans with these terriers, hopefully.
00:36:07.699 --> 00:36:10.099
So how how'd you start out in those terriers?
00:36:10.819 --> 00:36:11.699
Tell us about that.
00:36:11.859 --> 00:36:14.739
Uh well you currently or in general?
00:36:15.139 --> 00:36:15.859
No, in in general.
00:36:16.339 --> 00:36:17.859
What was your first ones?
00:36:18.419 --> 00:36:20.019
You know, how how did you get started?
00:36:20.979 --> 00:36:24.339
You told me a story about one of them and the groundhog.
00:36:24.419 --> 00:36:27.299
You get get get into that story after you tell us that.
00:36:29.619 --> 00:36:31.139
Uh by the fire department.
00:36:33.299 --> 00:36:34.899
I don't I don't know if I can remember all of it.
00:36:34.979 --> 00:36:36.659
But anyhow, so I was at the bay pen.
00:36:38.419 --> 00:36:51.059
Uh maybe my first being at Hell Kistral Creek, and I seen you, you, or right, and Jenny Dye, and maybe a couple of other people dragging around these little black and pan lorry hired little other little bass.
00:36:51.219 --> 00:36:52.819
I'm like, what the fuck are them?
00:36:53.939 --> 00:36:57.619
And if I'm not mistaken, it was you or Corey Rye.
00:36:58.179 --> 00:37:03.299
I mean, uh Corey Watson said they're they're just they're buzz styles.
00:37:03.459 --> 00:37:04.819
You just sit back and watch them.
00:37:05.299 --> 00:37:05.939
Yep.
00:37:06.579 --> 00:37:13.859
I mean, 12, 15, 16 pound dogs, and I'm like, y'all are ignorant kids gonna turn that on a damn hog.
00:37:14.179 --> 00:37:18.739
Because up until then I didn't know nothing about a Jag Terrier, a Patterdale carrier.
00:37:18.899 --> 00:37:23.459
The only carriers I knew about was a rat terrier, a jet russell, and a bulldoze.
00:37:24.499 --> 00:37:32.099
I mean, and so I watched them, and boy, I'm telling you, uh, was it you or Corey?
00:37:32.259 --> 00:37:34.099
One of y'all had a dog named Miles.
00:37:34.419 --> 00:37:35.859
Mills, yeah, that's mine.
00:37:36.419 --> 00:37:37.379
Mills.
00:37:37.939 --> 00:37:42.019
And I remember, boy, I'm telling you, they they was they was rough.
00:37:42.179 --> 00:37:45.219
I mean, they were just they buzz sized.
00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:53.859
So I got interested in them, and Jeannie, she raised a litter of puppies off of a dog she had named Headhunter.
00:37:54.739 --> 00:38:02.579
And and she gave me, or uh Corey's mother gave me a female off of Headhunter.
00:38:02.739 --> 00:38:10.819
Well, I I got the female and I I mean I didn't necessarily hunt that female on big game per se.
00:38:11.379 --> 00:38:13.939
Uh, because I had better dogs, you know, and all that.
00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:19.859
So I just pretty much had her as a ride-around, catch game, just whatever.
00:38:20.339 --> 00:38:27.379
And lo and behold, uh, from what I gathered, that female was fairly good bred.
00:38:27.619 --> 00:38:28.259
All right.
00:38:28.899 --> 00:38:32.899
And uh a local man that lives here, you know who I'm talking about.
00:38:33.219 --> 00:38:37.699
He had a he had the ugliest, and he's still the ugliest fucking terrier I've ever seen.
00:38:37.779 --> 00:38:38.979
His name was Oscar.
00:38:39.139 --> 00:38:39.779
Yeah.
00:38:40.579 --> 00:38:48.019
And and and we and I I knew of this man prior to my terrier, but I said, Hey, I want to raise some puppies.
00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:57.139
And he said, Well, son, you just bring her on up here and uh we raised, we bred her, and she had five puppies, raised all of them.
00:38:57.299 --> 00:39:04.979
Uh, we won't get into that because there was a bunch of controversy about the Terrier Association and all that, but nonetheless, uh, they were good little dogs.
00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:08.499
That was my first experience with them and why I got into them.
00:39:08.659 --> 00:39:13.219
I I just at that time they were just rough little faces for me.
00:39:13.459 --> 00:39:18.979
And um, you know, then uh some years went by and I've gotten rid of them.
00:39:19.059 --> 00:39:23.219
You know, I sold out and quit dogs, period, for a while.
00:39:23.459 --> 00:39:28.579
And uh I'd always know that Cory had a Patterdale.
00:39:29.779 --> 00:39:37.699
Well I I'd just kind of done some research, you know, via Facebook and some group and Google or whatever, whatever.
00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:42.339
And it's potato potato, you know what I mean?
00:39:42.579 --> 00:39:45.139
Some people like a jack, some people like a patterdale.
00:39:45.539 --> 00:39:47.619
You know, a lot of people like them crowds.
00:39:48.339 --> 00:39:54.499
So Corey told me if he ever raised a gang of puppies, he'd make sure I got a puppy.
00:39:54.659 --> 00:39:59.859
Well, sure enough, he texted me one day, he said, son, I've got that female bread.
00:40:00.019 --> 00:40:01.059
You ready for your puppy?
00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:03.699
And boy, I was just I was I was excited.
00:40:03.859 --> 00:40:05.059
And I said, Hell yeah.
00:40:05.219 --> 00:40:10.499
But well, I met y'all, I I actually met you that day too when I come to the bay pen.
00:40:10.979 --> 00:40:13.859
Uh, and I got my Patterdale mail from Corey.
00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:21.459
And although he is still a puppy, that is probably the most intelligent dog I've ever had in my life.
00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:27.939
He's he's smart, he's he's game-minded, literally, literally natural.
00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:38.659
Like um about three weeks ago, now now all my other ones, they're they're tied or or not tied in candy.
00:40:39.619 --> 00:40:42.019
But my little male pup, he's free range.
00:40:42.179 --> 00:40:44.819
He he sleeps on the porch, on the couch.
00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:48.099
Uh, you know, he goes and does what he wants to do.
00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:57.459
And I I hear this damn thing barking in the middle of like nine o'clock in the morning, eight o'clock in the morning, and I'm like, what the fuck is he damn barking at?
00:40:59.219 --> 00:41:02.179
I go out on the porch and I scold him.
00:41:02.419 --> 00:41:04.819
Well, he kind of looks at me like, what the hell, dad?
00:41:05.299 --> 00:41:12.579
And uh I uh come back in the house and literally didn't get the door shut, and he's back fucking.
00:41:14.339 --> 00:41:17.619
And I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck is he doing?
00:41:18.339 --> 00:41:30.259
So I I do a little more looking, and there's like a 215-pound white potbelly-looking motherfucker under the lar bushes, and my puppy is over baying the hair off of that thing.
00:41:30.499 --> 00:41:33.539
Like four and a half months old, never seen a hog in his life.
00:41:33.699 --> 00:41:34.179
Yeah.
00:41:34.739 --> 00:41:36.979
Don't even know where this pig comes from.
00:41:37.619 --> 00:41:39.939
And I'm like, well, I'll use it to my advantage.
00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:40.339
Fuck it.
00:41:40.419 --> 00:41:41.859
I fuck yeah, let's play with it.
00:41:42.259 --> 00:41:47.539
So I go over there and I stick that thing in the ice with a shovel, and he comes running out just a little bit, you know.
00:41:47.699 --> 00:41:48.819
He couldn't really run too much.
00:41:48.899 --> 00:41:50.339
I don't even know where this damn thing comes from.
00:41:50.419 --> 00:41:59.619
But anyhow, uh he comes out from under the damn wall bushes, and that puppy grabbed a hold of his hop and was just like hanging there.
00:42:00.259 --> 00:42:04.819
Well, my my red jag male was up there at the barn.
00:42:04.979 --> 00:42:10.099
Just, I guess they know, you know, like he heard that puppy and he just was going crazy.
00:42:10.259 --> 00:42:13.219
So hell, I just turned him loose from the barn.
00:42:14.179 --> 00:42:15.779
Well, we'll we're about to see what you made of.
00:42:15.939 --> 00:42:16.899
Now, no.
00:42:17.539 --> 00:42:23.059
This damn potbelly-looking son of a bitch had probably four-inch peace sticking out of his head.
00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:27.299
Like he he was a nasty looking son bitch.
00:42:27.459 --> 00:42:29.379
I said, Well, we're about to see what you're all about.
00:42:29.699 --> 00:42:33.939
I know you've never seen one in this jag's about a year and a half old, something like that.
00:42:34.099 --> 00:42:38.979
I opened the kin of lord and he went down through there, and I mean he hit that son bitch like a tank.
00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:44.339
And I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, we can deal with this.
00:42:44.419 --> 00:42:45.939
We can we can do this now.
00:42:46.019 --> 00:42:47.299
This is all good, you know.
00:42:47.699 --> 00:43:07.139
And prior to the prior to the little old, prior to the hog bill, the little old hog bill, uh I'd I'd run down there to the pet store and I'd buy them live feeder rats and I'd turn them loose in the yard and I'd wait five or so minutes, and I'd let that puppy track it down and sell it, you know, and I've I've he's I put him in groundhog holes.
00:43:07.379 --> 00:43:11.699
Now I've had my eyes chewed out for putting such a young puppy in hole.
00:43:12.179 --> 00:43:15.539
But, you know, back to what we were talking about prior.
00:43:15.699 --> 00:43:18.899
If you're happy with feeding them, then else can kind of kiss out.
00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:29.219
You know, I mean I I wasn't gonna let it get hurt, but nonetheless, we dug on a groundhog for like four hours, and I've never seen this fucking groundhog.
00:43:29.299 --> 00:43:31.459
Of course, I don't know how deep a fucking groundhog be.
00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:35.219
So I I I got beat, I got tired, I ain't gonna lie to you.
00:43:35.459 --> 00:43:36.819
Sick and shit, whatever.
00:43:36.899 --> 00:43:40.099
I just got tired and and I said, fuck this ground hog.
00:43:40.259 --> 00:43:43.539
I'm gonna bring a tractor down here tomorrow and I'll push this fucking mount of dirt over.
00:43:44.579 --> 00:43:54.819
And uh I have uh cones, few names that they've seen everything that we have in the mountain.
00:43:55.059 --> 00:44:00.659
Uh I mean that Patterdale's still real young.
00:44:01.059 --> 00:44:04.099
Yep, my Patterdale will be six months old, the 11th.
00:44:04.259 --> 00:44:05.299
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:44:05.379 --> 00:44:06.259
He's been going.
00:44:06.899 --> 00:44:08.899
You got him in April.
00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:12.259
He was born March 11th.
00:44:12.419 --> 00:44:16.579
Yeah, I just want to say, because he was he wasn't even really old enough to be winged.
00:44:17.539 --> 00:44:18.099
I remember Corey.
00:44:19.459 --> 00:44:21.859
Yeah, because Corey said he's the man I'm making that trip.
00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:23.059
I talked to him, he said.
00:44:23.459 --> 00:44:24.419
You think they'll be all right?
00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:25.859
He's the right at least.
00:44:26.019 --> 00:44:27.939
I think they were five weeks old, wouldn't they?
00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:30.739
I believe that's what it was.
00:44:30.979 --> 00:44:32.339
I something like that.
00:44:32.579 --> 00:44:33.859
They were get real young anyway.
00:44:33.939 --> 00:44:38.259
I told him I said, hell, if they if they eat following food, they'll be all right, you know.
00:44:39.299 --> 00:44:43.779
Terries are just different than than cur dogs or hounds or anything like that.
00:44:43.939 --> 00:44:48.339
They're they're very tenacious, they're hardy, they're they're tough.
00:44:48.499 --> 00:44:50.099
They're just they're tough.
00:44:50.419 --> 00:44:54.339
I don't know, it seems like uh like you said, they're very natural.
00:44:55.379 --> 00:44:57.379
You don't have to you don't have to do much training.
00:44:57.459 --> 00:44:59.379
All you gotta do is give them something to do.
00:45:00.659 --> 00:45:07.299
Yes, and I mean, you know, before, like this puppy was two and a half, three months old, you know.
00:45:07.459 --> 00:45:07.859
Mm-hmm.
00:45:08.019 --> 00:45:15.299
And this little bastard will be out there literally playing tug of war with a fucking rose boost with thorns the size of fucking spurs on a turkey.
00:45:15.459 --> 00:45:16.019
Yeah.
00:45:16.259 --> 00:45:18.739
And I'm thinking, are you are you that bored?
00:45:18.819 --> 00:45:20.179
Are you or what the hell's wrong with you?
00:45:20.259 --> 00:45:21.939
Like sometimes that's a good thing.
00:45:22.099 --> 00:45:25.059
Or he sent me a fucking retard, is what he sent me.
00:45:25.139 --> 00:45:33.859
And then this this this little puppy, I mean, he he intrigues me every day.
00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:37.219
Every day he he shows me or does something differently.
00:45:37.459 --> 00:45:50.339
Now, I don't know anybody that has ever thrown a puppy, four months old now, in the back of a truck, never been in the truck, never didn't time or nothing.
00:45:50.419 --> 00:45:55.139
I just told him to just say, you're gonna ride back here, we're going to the store.
00:45:55.379 --> 00:46:01.539
And some bitch got up on the wheel well of my truck and rode all the way to the store and all the way back.
00:46:01.699 --> 00:46:04.659
Never damn hinted to jump out at all.
00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:09.939
Uh I can snap my fingers and he'll just bow up.
00:46:10.419 --> 00:46:11.699
He looks like a damn cutting horse.
00:46:11.939 --> 00:46:15.859
He'll slide, if he's running, he'll he'll slide, he'll bow up, and he'll just sit down.
00:46:16.259 --> 00:46:19.939
Uh he was in the house.
00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:25.139
He was I I was gonna try to make him like a dual-purpose in-and-out dog, you know.
00:46:25.299 --> 00:46:25.619
Yeah.
00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:27.139
He pissed me off.
00:46:27.299 --> 00:46:38.179
I come in the bedroom from being gone downstairs for like seven minutes, and I come upstairs, and this motherfucker had one of my turkey fans in about 800 fucking pieces.
00:46:39.539 --> 00:46:41.859
That's something got it going, didn't he?
00:46:42.579 --> 00:46:43.779
And I said, Yep, yep.
00:46:44.019 --> 00:46:45.699
You are now going outside.
00:46:46.099 --> 00:46:52.259
I said, the only way you're gonna stay in the house 24 hours is if there's a foot of fucking snow.
00:46:54.419 --> 00:46:55.459
That shit's funny.
00:46:55.699 --> 00:47:00.499
But yeah, he's he's a really he's a good dog, and I I'm pleased with him, you know.
00:47:00.659 --> 00:47:03.219
Uh Cory breeds some good ones.
00:47:03.379 --> 00:47:05.219
Corey, Corey has some of the best patterns.
00:47:06.579 --> 00:47:22.179
Uh Corey told the the background on him that I can tell you uh is this dog grandma comes from Michigan, and Corey said that was that that's that that line of the dog was the hardest going patterns he's ever seen.
00:47:22.339 --> 00:47:22.499
Yeah.
00:47:22.739 --> 00:47:28.019
But as far as the actual line, I could tell you, other than he's just a little black devil.
00:47:28.419 --> 00:47:31.459
Well, he uh I got I got a puppy from Corey.
00:47:31.939 --> 00:47:40.899
I don't know it's been quite a few years ago now, and there's a guy that I know his little girl was wanting a little puppy.
00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:44.259
And I had uh I'd kind of promised him one over the years, you know.
00:47:44.339 --> 00:47:47.619
I said, man, but I just never bred very often, you know.
00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:51.219
Well, hell you know, I you waited on one for 10 years.
00:47:51.459 --> 00:47:59.219
And uh, yeah, well, hell I I I I give Oscar back to Junior, so that way some bitch get bred.
00:47:59.459 --> 00:48:02.899
You know, I was like, hell, I can't I'm too busy hunting and doing all this shit.
00:48:02.979 --> 00:48:04.899
But anyway, so I called Corey.
00:48:04.979 --> 00:48:08.099
I said, Corey, I said, You care if I let this little girl have this puppy.
00:48:08.419 --> 00:48:10.339
I said she lives right over the hill from it.
00:48:10.499 --> 00:48:12.579
Literally, she lives about six miles from me.
00:48:13.379 --> 00:48:24.179
Corey said, Well, Lord, no, I said uh and just like you said, at five, six months old, this puppy was finding deer, blood tracking deer.
00:48:24.499 --> 00:48:27.859
I mean, busting grown coons, it didn't matter.
00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:29.379
And smart as a whip.
00:48:29.779 --> 00:48:30.819
That old boy called me.
00:48:30.899 --> 00:48:35.299
And Matt's been raising, I mean, his name is Matt Vines, he owns Bamel Line Pitts.
00:48:35.539 --> 00:48:48.179
And like he is a he's been big time in the the game dog stuff uh and breeding and raising and keeping the keeping a good line of of game stock uh for many, many decades now.
00:48:48.259 --> 00:48:53.699
And he said that little that's why he told me he said that little Patterdale, he said, probably the most natural dog I've ever seen.
00:48:54.259 --> 00:48:55.939
And that can come from Corey.
00:48:56.259 --> 00:48:58.739
So it's probably the same stuff that you got.
00:48:59.139 --> 00:48:59.859
I have to agree.
00:48:59.939 --> 00:49:03.779
I mean, I I don't I don't know what they are other than Patterdale's.
00:49:04.579 --> 00:49:07.219
Just a solid little dog, and you know small.
00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:10.099
Now I have subsidized him well, you know what I mean?
00:49:10.339 --> 00:49:10.979
Yeah.
00:49:11.379 --> 00:49:16.019
But doesn't seem to be a terrier in that in that area.
00:49:16.099 --> 00:49:16.819
You know what I mean?
00:49:16.899 --> 00:49:19.219
Some of them can be fucking assholes.
00:49:19.379 --> 00:49:21.059
Oh, I got a yard full of them out here.
00:49:21.139 --> 00:49:22.259
I got I got several of them.
00:49:23.459 --> 00:49:27.619
He doesn't seem to you know show any aggression.
00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:31.219
Obviously, you know, he is a puppy, but still, he doesn't show no aggression.
00:49:31.379 --> 00:49:37.939
Uh now he he tries to be damn, he tries to play when I turn them all over.
00:49:38.179 --> 00:49:39.379
He tries to play.
00:49:39.619 --> 00:49:46.259
And some of them older ones now, they they'll nip his ass, but you know, they're not ill or rough, you know, towards other dogs.
00:49:46.339 --> 00:49:48.499
They just, you know, hey, don't fuck with me right now.
00:49:48.579 --> 00:49:49.379
I'm busy.
00:49:49.699 --> 00:49:51.139
Where he's still a puppy.
00:49:51.299 --> 00:49:57.539
But now, if there's game out there, I'm telling you, he's all he's all of it.
00:49:57.619 --> 00:50:01.539
He he don't give a damn if you cowl him, he won't, he's all about game.
00:50:01.619 --> 00:50:02.659
Any kind of game.
00:50:02.819 --> 00:50:04.819
I'm telling you, any kind of game.
00:50:05.139 --> 00:50:10.659
I'm pretty sure the little bastard and the red male that I've got, I'm pretty sure they had a damn deer race to the day.
00:50:10.819 --> 00:50:11.779
But I never heard him.
00:50:12.259 --> 00:50:23.459
I never heard him open up, but we went down this little old trail, and uh I went to go look and see if he I went to go look at my sign patch was how it looked.
00:50:23.619 --> 00:50:40.579
And uh about that time I heard the leaves on the bank just up ahead of me, tired down, and I think it was about that time that little puppy literally pretty much fixed his nose where whatever went up to the bank and he beelines right up the bank behind it.
00:50:40.659 --> 00:50:42.499
Now I don't know what it was, but it had to be a deer.
00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:49.939
But they was gone about thirty thirty minutes, and me standing out there going, Well, I don't know where they are, but hopefully they'll come back.
00:50:50.499 --> 00:50:53.539
And they they finally come back, they was they was busted.
00:50:53.619 --> 00:51:00.979
I mean busted, it was you know, 90 degrees and hell, whatever the hell they led after, you know.
00:51:01.299 --> 00:51:08.019
I have no doubts in my mind that like I was telling you earlier, these terriers are just versatile, you know.
00:51:08.339 --> 00:51:18.579
Uh in Europe they use them to flush, in Europe they use these jags and stuff to flush pheasants and upland birds, retrieve ducks, you know.
00:51:18.819 --> 00:51:27.619
Uh hell, I I was talking to the sheriff, and I told him, I said, Hell, you need to get rid of them damn beds and manimois and them fucking shepherds.
00:51:27.779 --> 00:51:29.219
I said, get you a damn terrier.
00:51:29.299 --> 00:51:32.259
I said, they don't eat as much, their shit ain't as big.
00:51:32.499 --> 00:51:32.819
That's right.
00:51:32.979 --> 00:51:39.059
I said, Hell, you can just get your little old terry on and them, you don't even have to have a whole back seat for them bishops.
00:51:39.139 --> 00:51:40.819
Well, they're getting fine too.
00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:58.339
There, there was uh there's a project that uh they've done, I believe it was in South Africa, where they introduced the the Yog Terrier and Hyde Terrier to their instead of having the Belgian Malinois and all that for their drug dogs and their bomb detection dogs and all that, they started using terriers.
00:51:58.499 --> 00:52:00.579
Also, uh Deep St.
00:52:00.739 --> 00:52:03.539
Albans' daughter, she sent one.
00:52:03.939 --> 00:52:07.379
I thought I want to say they're in in Dallas Fort Worth.
00:52:08.739 --> 00:52:11.859
And uh, or up around that area.
00:52:12.259 --> 00:52:20.339
And she was training one, or it might have been one that she bred up anyway, and they used it for the their police force there.
00:52:21.299 --> 00:52:26.579
You know, so I mean the dogs have a phenomenal, the Jags have a great nose.
00:52:26.819 --> 00:52:30.419
That that's that's what I see over the the Patterdale.
00:52:30.499 --> 00:52:39.379
I I think they have a better nose than a Patterdale, but the Patterdale is is just a hard, just little badass, you know, like a little bulldog.
00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:44.499
So you think a Patterdale, you think a Jag's got a better nose than a Patterdale?
00:52:44.739 --> 00:52:48.579
Well, out of all the years I've had them, yes, without a doubt.
00:52:48.819 --> 00:52:49.379
To me.
00:52:49.539 --> 00:53:04.899
And I I in my opinion, in the last, in the in the newer stage of my terrier feeling, I I think I I that little old male that I've got, he's got a nose, I'm telling you.
00:53:04.979 --> 00:53:07.699
He's oh yeah, they got they got great noses.
00:53:07.779 --> 00:53:08.659
I mean, there's no doubt.
00:53:08.739 --> 00:53:15.139
But I'm talking about like like Oscar, you know, hell, he rigs before them plot hounds do.
00:53:16.179 --> 00:53:36.979
And and well, that's just because they're quite and which I mean, and I had you know, I had him here for five years, and I'm gonna tell you, they he's probably the best nose that we've had uh on anything, and not just him, but that whole line of, and it could just be the line of jags that I've that I've had, you know, it could just be that.
00:53:37.219 --> 00:53:44.179
I I don't know, but I know by far they have outdone as far as like long-range hunting.
00:53:44.419 --> 00:53:46.819
I can dry cast them or do whatever.
00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:49.459
And it could be just the line of patterns that I've had.
00:53:49.619 --> 00:53:53.219
The line of patterns I had there, like I said, they're like bulldogs.
00:53:53.539 --> 00:53:55.139
Uh, but they hunt hard.
00:53:55.299 --> 00:53:57.619
They they all of them hunt hard.
00:53:58.019 --> 00:53:58.499
Yeah.
00:53:58.739 --> 00:54:07.139
And I I've talked to people before, I said, if you want a longer range hunting dog, you know, I would say, okay, here's your jay, here's your little jag terriers.
00:54:07.299 --> 00:54:12.819
They tend to get out further and stay gone longer uh by themselves.
00:54:12.979 --> 00:54:18.339
And with the patterdeels, I I think a patterdeal is more fitting for, you know, my sidekick.
00:54:18.579 --> 00:54:22.819
If I'm gonna have one to ride around in the truck, that's what I'm having with me, you know.
00:54:22.979 --> 00:54:23.139
Yeah.
00:54:23.379 --> 00:54:24.179
My little kill dog.
00:54:24.579 --> 00:54:25.539
And I'm with you there.
00:54:25.619 --> 00:54:26.499
I'm with you there.
00:54:26.659 --> 00:54:41.219
Like, you know, uh, they they both have their they both have their area where they're gonna shine, you know, like but I think Corey's line of patterns, without a doubt, has probably had the best nose of any patterdills I've seen.
00:54:41.539 --> 00:54:48.419
Uh, you know, I uh now I have seen yaw terriers small enough to go in the ground.
00:54:48.499 --> 00:54:49.379
I have seen some.
00:54:49.699 --> 00:54:53.459
But the three that I have are not small enough to go in the ground.
00:54:53.699 --> 00:55:01.219
Uh but that doesn't that doesn't, you know, make them any that doesn't make them any less in my opinion.
00:55:01.379 --> 00:55:06.499
Uh but I I do have uh, you know, I like to say I've got five out there now.
00:55:06.819 --> 00:55:11.539
Uh I've got three yacht terriers and I've got two Patterdales.
00:55:12.099 --> 00:55:16.419
Uh uh a local buddy of mine, Lot Man.
00:55:16.979 --> 00:55:22.739
Uh he had he had uh a little old black Patterdale bitch.
00:55:23.139 --> 00:55:27.859
And and I've seen this female work, she's she's tough, you know, she's tough.
00:55:28.099 --> 00:55:31.459
She's about 15 or 16 months old, something like that.
00:55:31.779 --> 00:55:38.339
And he had uh inquired about rape breeding him breeding her to my yacht carrier mail.
00:55:38.499 --> 00:55:40.339
And I said, hell I don't care, you know.
00:55:40.419 --> 00:55:45.539
I mean, I I've heard a lot of people they look they prefer the 50-50, you know.
00:55:45.859 --> 00:55:47.619
Yeah, the crosses are good stuff.
00:55:47.859 --> 00:55:49.699
And uh I said, Yeah, I don't care.
00:55:49.779 --> 00:55:52.019
What if you know I mean I I'll take a puppy.
00:55:52.179 --> 00:55:58.659
And uh well he texted me the other day and he said uh you know, Remy's Remy's about to come in heat any day.
00:55:58.739 --> 00:56:00.739
He said, uh, you know, come get her.
00:56:00.899 --> 00:56:05.699
Well, I said, uh, you know where I live, just bring her to the house.
00:56:05.859 --> 00:56:09.219
Well he calls me and said, Hell you just keep you can have her.
00:56:09.379 --> 00:56:11.539
He said, I've got too many dogs and da da da.
00:56:12.339 --> 00:56:14.739
Well, so that's where my female comes from.
00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:17.379
Now, do I know any background on her?
00:56:17.779 --> 00:56:19.139
No, no, not really.
00:56:19.219 --> 00:56:20.979
I just I know she comes from Kentucky.
00:56:21.059 --> 00:56:22.579
That's all I can tell you, really.
00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:30.499
But she is an absolute tank, you know, as far as how she feels and everything, you know.
00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:33.699
She looks like a damn miniature black pit bull.
00:56:34.179 --> 00:56:34.819
Hell yeah.
00:56:35.059 --> 00:56:41.219
Uh and I I I do have plans when she comes in to breed her to my yacht mail.
00:56:41.379 --> 00:56:43.779
Just I mean, I'm gonna see what happens.
00:56:43.859 --> 00:56:47.379
I mean, they might be all crazy as hell, but we're gonna see.
00:56:47.619 --> 00:57:01.139
And, you know, obviously I can't I can't raise no straight ones because, you know, my male too young, you know, and I've and of course I've done told Corey, whenever I do get the breeder to my male off of his, I was gonna send him a puppy.
00:57:01.219 --> 00:57:01.539
Yeah.
00:57:01.779 --> 00:57:04.979
And uh, you know, that's just that's just how buddies do things, you know.
00:57:05.059 --> 00:57:08.019
Hey, you you get me one and then I I won't forget.
00:57:08.979 --> 00:57:09.299
That's right.
00:57:09.779 --> 00:57:11.139
That's what it's supposed to be.
00:57:11.459 --> 00:57:12.019
Oh yeah.
00:57:12.179 --> 00:57:16.419
Now you but you know, we was talking about I was telling talking about you told me a story.
00:57:16.579 --> 00:57:22.019
Uh, and it was about that little female, Yog Terrier, that first one you had.
00:57:23.939 --> 00:57:29.219
You said you was you was driving in the truck and you had your window down a little bit.
00:57:29.459 --> 00:57:30.099
You know what I mean?
00:57:30.259 --> 00:57:31.299
Was it by the police station?
00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:31.939
Huh?
00:57:32.419 --> 00:57:34.579
Was it about a police station by chance?
00:57:34.819 --> 00:57:35.459
Yes.
00:57:35.939 --> 00:57:36.819
Yeah, I remember.
00:57:37.059 --> 00:57:39.779
I thought it was a police or fire department.
00:57:39.859 --> 00:57:40.979
Tell us that story there.
00:57:41.219 --> 00:57:44.259
Well, it was it was it was a silver police department.
00:57:44.499 --> 00:57:44.819
Okay.
00:57:45.139 --> 00:57:47.379
The town cocks, not the county, the town.
00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:48.339
Oh hell.
00:57:48.739 --> 00:57:54.499
Yeah, yeah, I was ri I was riding through there, and uh it's uh it's a it's an area.
00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:59.859
It's a it it was in this in this actual spot, it's behind the sawmill.
00:57:59.939 --> 00:58:03.379
You know, if you come to Silva, you're gonna see the sawmill.
00:58:03.459 --> 00:58:13.059
Well, it's not a sawmill, it's a paper plant, but uh behind it they have mountains, mountains of sawdust that they you know compress in the paper.
00:58:14.179 --> 00:58:17.859
And uh that is literally groundhog heaven.
00:58:18.659 --> 00:58:24.099
Uh I didn't have no fucking clue about going to the ground or none of that shit.
00:58:25.139 --> 00:58:29.859
Had no clue what I what I didn't I ain't digging no fucking groundhog out.
00:58:29.939 --> 00:58:30.659
Fuck y'all.
00:58:31.139 --> 00:58:37.619
Well, I'm riding around though there, and sure enough, I'm I'm creeping up on to where the police station is.
00:58:37.859 --> 00:58:41.699
I had my window down, not a lot, but I had my window down.
00:58:41.939 --> 00:58:43.699
And that bitch seen the groundhog.
00:58:48.179 --> 00:58:56.099
Well, hell, I just kinda I nonchalantly just push my clutch in and come to a roll stop in the parking lot right beside it.
00:58:56.419 --> 00:59:02.019
And I go over there and I mean all I can see was just literally the tips of her fucking tail fibers.
00:59:02.819 --> 00:59:05.459
And I'm thinking, what the fuck am I gonna do?
00:59:07.619 --> 00:59:14.579
And so I go and I had a little old spade, and I'm over trying to dig at some bitch out, or at least try to get my dog back.
00:59:15.459 --> 00:59:20.499
And people's driving by, I guess they thinking I'm a fucking dope head.
00:59:20.579 --> 00:59:24.499
Because they don't see no dog, they just see some fucking white dude with a shovel.
00:59:26.899 --> 00:59:38.499
And uh it wasn't long after that the Lyle pulls up and asks what I'm doing, and uh nonetheless, I get my dog back, but I also get a fucking ticket.
00:59:38.819 --> 00:59:39.619
Damn.
00:59:39.939 --> 00:59:47.699
I and I don't don't don't quote me because I can't remember naming wildlife or or some bullshit.
00:59:47.779 --> 00:59:50.019
And I'm like, I didn't turn the fucking bitch loose.
00:59:50.099 --> 00:59:52.259
She jumped out the damn window.
00:59:53.059 --> 00:59:56.979
You know, I'm like, I I didn't just say here, go get that fucking thing.
00:59:57.139 --> 00:59:57.459
No.
00:59:57.699 --> 01:00:01.859
But that was my first experience with a groundhog in the hole of a terrier.
01:00:02.019 --> 01:00:08.019
And uh to this day, a lot of the deputies will still ask me, do you remember that?
01:00:08.099 --> 01:00:14.819
And I'm like, yeah, I I I just don't try to remember shit I've done with y'all motherfuckers.
01:00:18.819 --> 01:00:20.339
That's fucking that's hilarious.
01:00:21.379 --> 01:00:30.659
Let's just say this, they're about out of 100% of the sheriff's department and the law officers up here, out of 100%, about 40% of them like me.
01:00:33.459 --> 01:00:43.859
I was a hellion back in the day, now I'm telling you, when they used to come back when I was 16, 17 years old, when they was coming to the house to talk to me or whatever, they didn't send one.
01:00:44.019 --> 01:00:44.979
They never sent one.
01:00:45.059 --> 01:00:47.299
They'd send three or four of them motherfuckers.
01:00:47.539 --> 01:00:47.939
Uh-huh.
01:00:48.499 --> 01:00:50.499
Yeah, back when I was wild, they'd send three or four.
01:00:50.659 --> 01:00:53.939
I remember one time they came up through there and there was about five of them.
01:00:54.419 --> 01:00:54.899
Damn.
01:00:55.139 --> 01:01:02.099
Hell, my little smart ass, I got in the creek and I got in the fucking covert and I watched them ride back and forth for fucking three hours looking for me.
01:01:02.979 --> 01:01:04.259
Just sitting in the covert.
01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:06.419
I sitting in the covert in the creek.
01:01:06.579 --> 01:01:07.299
Yes, sir.
01:01:07.459 --> 01:01:11.539
They and they it kind of it got dark, and I guess they aborted mission.
01:01:11.779 --> 01:01:14.099
Hell, I they went on back down the creek.
01:01:14.339 --> 01:01:17.939
Hell, I come out, I went to the house, and I went went on the bed.
01:01:18.899 --> 01:01:22.499
And it was about 9:30 or 10 o'clock that night.
01:01:23.219 --> 01:01:25.459
My fucking bedroom light flipped on.
01:01:25.699 --> 01:01:26.099
Oh, yeah.
01:01:26.339 --> 01:01:27.299
I was like, what the fuck?
01:01:27.379 --> 01:01:28.659
Turn that light off.
01:01:29.779 --> 01:01:30.899
Get up, rooster.
01:01:30.979 --> 01:01:31.699
You gotta go with us.
01:01:31.779 --> 01:01:33.379
And I'm like, man, what the fuck?
01:01:33.539 --> 01:01:35.699
They come back to the house and got my ass.
01:01:36.259 --> 01:01:36.979
Damn.
01:01:37.939 --> 01:01:39.379
They had you.
01:01:39.779 --> 01:01:40.579
Oh yeah, yeah.
01:01:40.899 --> 01:01:42.419
I didn't have nowhere to go then.
01:01:43.059 --> 01:01:44.979
And then they asked me a way to go there.
01:01:45.139 --> 01:01:46.259
They said, Where was you at?
01:01:46.339 --> 01:01:46.899
We looked for you.
01:01:46.979 --> 01:01:50.099
I was like, dude, you just drove by me 800 times.
01:01:51.219 --> 01:01:53.619
I said, It ain't my job to tell you where I was.
01:01:53.699 --> 01:01:55.139
It's your job to find my ass.
01:01:55.459 --> 01:01:56.419
That's right.
01:01:57.539 --> 01:01:58.899
Them police, that's something.
01:01:59.539 --> 01:02:02.339
I guess I guess they knew I had to go home once sometime.
01:02:02.499 --> 01:02:03.619
Yeah, they knew you was coming back.
01:02:03.699 --> 01:02:05.219
They was like, that boy come eat supper.
01:02:05.379 --> 01:02:06.499
He'd be hungry.
01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:08.899
He'd be hungry sometime or the other.
01:02:09.379 --> 01:02:10.099
Oh, yeah.
01:02:10.259 --> 01:02:10.659
Yeah.
01:02:10.819 --> 01:02:13.859
So that, I mean, well, how'd you get the name Rooster?
01:02:13.939 --> 01:02:18.259
I I seen what, you know, we put that video up a while back, and there's a few people talking about it.
01:02:18.339 --> 01:02:19.939
They said, Oh, I give him that name.
01:02:20.019 --> 01:02:21.939
And somebody else said, No, I didn't know.
01:02:23.619 --> 01:02:27.779
All right, so you remember me telling you about my dog route, my first one.
01:02:27.939 --> 01:02:28.499
Yeah.
01:02:28.819 --> 01:02:33.379
The boys that commented on that on that video on that video, Coley Treadway.
01:02:34.339 --> 01:02:34.739
Mm-hmm.
01:02:34.979 --> 01:02:35.939
You go back and look at it.
01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:39.299
Coley Treadway and Ernie Treadway give me that dog.
01:02:39.539 --> 01:02:42.179
And they live in Liberty, South Carolina.
01:02:42.579 --> 01:02:47.139
Uh Ernie Treadway owns Ernie Treadway Radio Company.
01:02:47.859 --> 01:02:54.579
And uh this was not long after my dad had died, and my mom moved to South Carolina, and obviously I had to go down there with her.
01:02:54.899 --> 01:02:57.539
Um it's right there around Clemson.
01:02:58.259 --> 01:03:04.899
And she we she got a place to live right there in Tail Park, right below Ernie's house.
01:03:05.619 --> 01:03:27.859
I'd drive by this man's house all the time, and I'd see he'd have these big stock trailers, you know, uh stock contractor of the year, and da da da da, you know, and I'd see all these fucking bulls, but I never once seen a fucking cow, and I'm like bullshit I didn't know much about that stuff, you know what I mean?
01:03:28.259 --> 01:03:28.819
That's right.
01:03:29.059 --> 01:03:47.939
And uh I meandered my little ice up there one day and I introduced myself and I went on and literally every day I was up there and I would I would help him, I would feed bulls, I would fix fence, what whatever, whatever.
01:03:48.019 --> 01:03:48.579
You know what I mean?
01:03:48.659 --> 01:03:51.219
Just just basic labor, you know.
01:03:51.459 --> 01:04:03.219
And but I always I I just guess I wouldn't shut up talking about fucking roosters, you know, game chickens, and he just they give me the nickname rooster, and that's been my nickname since then.
01:04:03.379 --> 01:04:06.179
They you know they they give me the nickname rooster.
01:04:06.339 --> 01:04:09.939
I'll be damned when I was about 15 or 16 years old.
01:04:10.259 --> 01:04:20.739
Well, you know, that's something that a lot of a lot of guys that are that that run any type of hunting dogs or hounds and stuff like that, a lot of those guys have game foul.
01:04:22.099 --> 01:04:31.859
Oh but you know, the more I travel and go visit with with a lot of these hunters, the the more I see that, you know, get there and they're like and they got a yard full of game foul.
01:04:32.019 --> 01:04:38.259
So what what's your what well what's your preferred uh preferred line?
01:04:39.059 --> 01:04:39.699
Mine?
01:04:40.339 --> 01:04:40.979
Yeah.
01:04:41.539 --> 01:04:42.179
Hmm.
01:04:43.299 --> 01:04:46.339
I mean, I guess it depends on what heel.
01:04:47.619 --> 01:04:54.659
Well, I mean, if we're talking about the spur, if we're talking about the if we're talking about the spirit, I just think you say let's either one, okay.
01:04:54.819 --> 01:04:56.019
See what you see what we say.
01:04:56.259 --> 01:05:07.939
If we're talking about the gas, I I I personally think now, I mean, this is apples to oranges, but each is on, but I personally think it's hard to beat a good patch gray race.
01:05:08.259 --> 01:05:10.739
I mean, I it's just hard to beat 'em, you know.
01:05:10.899 --> 01:05:16.579
They're rugged and tough and you know, them old Grays and uh them old Grays and Bob Bennett's.
01:05:16.659 --> 01:05:20.339
Uh it seemed the more you hurt 'em, the harder he hits you.
01:05:20.419 --> 01:05:30.419
You know, he won't hit uh, you know, and I've seen a lot of times when they they didn't really want to do nothing until they was hurt real bad, if that makes sense.
01:05:30.659 --> 01:05:31.539
Oh yeah.
01:05:32.019 --> 01:05:42.419
Uh now in in in the in the in the in the knife, uh I prefer uh I like I like a yellow-legged rooster in the in the knife.
01:05:42.499 --> 01:05:49.139
You know, I uh uh so round head crosses or uh hatch round heads.
01:05:49.859 --> 01:05:52.099
You know, I want something that's gonna get up in hair.
01:05:52.499 --> 01:05:55.139
Yeah, you you like him breaking pretty high.
01:05:55.699 --> 01:06:01.859
I I I like I like a good rooster that'll get up and uh but he's gotta be smart about it in my opinion, you know.
01:06:02.019 --> 01:06:05.939
Like I I just don't want one that's gonna jump over him and then jump back over him.
01:06:06.099 --> 01:06:09.859
I want him to jump over him and then meet him when he, you know, meet him.
01:06:11.939 --> 01:06:18.019
But as far as as far as my all-time favorite, uh it's probably just an old, old, rugged ice hat rooster.
01:06:18.179 --> 01:06:20.739
I mean, I like old hat rooster and stray roofers.
01:06:21.059 --> 01:06:30.659
Uh that was that was the first derby that I ever won by myself was uh it was three-quarter Johnny Mitchell Leaper and a quarter regular gray.
01:06:31.619 --> 01:06:37.459
And uh it was at uh 440 for Del Rio.
01:06:37.619 --> 01:06:38.179
I can't remember.
01:06:38.419 --> 01:06:41.059
The damn trophy sitting over there on the shelf.
01:06:41.139 --> 01:06:41.859
I can't remember.
01:06:42.019 --> 01:06:43.459
It was a four clock.
01:06:43.859 --> 01:06:48.339
There was an old man that lived a lot lived on down the road here a little ways, about fifteen minutes.
01:06:48.579 --> 01:06:50.099
His name was Roger Brooks.
01:06:51.139 --> 01:06:54.899
Uh he he he he ran under Hammertime Game Farm.
01:06:56.819 --> 01:06:58.739
Uh well I'm gonna back up just man.
01:06:59.059 --> 01:06:59.619
After my dad died.
01:07:00.099 --> 01:07:03.539
I I after my dad died, I went with a I went to a buddy's house.
01:07:03.779 --> 01:07:08.339
It was uh senior prom or some shit, and he was a couple years older than me.
01:07:08.499 --> 01:07:10.499
But we didn't give a damn about no prime.
01:07:10.579 --> 01:07:12.019
We was going to party, you know what I mean?
01:07:12.339 --> 01:07:12.899
Yes, sir.
01:07:13.699 --> 01:07:20.179
And we pulled in his yard, and there was literally like 250 fucking blue barrels all over the side of the hill.
01:07:20.259 --> 01:07:21.699
And I'm like, what the fuck is all that?
01:07:21.779 --> 01:07:23.699
I've never been to the boy's house.
01:07:24.099 --> 01:07:27.939
And uh he opened up a big old tackle box and it was full of gas.
01:07:28.579 --> 01:07:33.699
And uh then he gave me a December 2005 gang type name.
01:07:34.179 --> 01:07:36.659
And I go to reading about it, listen to it, and everything.
01:07:36.739 --> 01:07:38.179
I was kind of intrigued about it, you know.
01:07:38.579 --> 01:07:40.019
That's pretty cool, you know.
01:07:40.259 --> 01:07:44.659
And then I seen old Roger that in there, you know.
01:07:45.219 --> 01:07:47.059
And I'm about to Roger and Roger.
01:07:47.219 --> 01:07:49.299
Roger taught me a whole lot of rooms.
01:07:50.179 --> 01:07:52.899
Roger was crazy as hell, literally.
01:07:53.299 --> 01:07:55.699
Crazy as a sprayed fucking cockroach.
01:07:55.939 --> 01:07:58.899
But he was a he was a good rooster man.
01:07:59.059 --> 01:08:00.899
He had some really tough chickens.
01:08:01.139 --> 01:08:08.179
Uh and you know, after after a couple years of me fooling with him, he asked me if I wanted to put a show up.
01:08:08.259 --> 01:08:09.699
And I said, Well, I thought you was.
01:08:09.859 --> 01:08:12.259
And he said, No, I asked if you wanted to put a show up.
01:08:12.659 --> 01:08:18.819
So uh he let me go through and kick through about fucking 20.
01:08:20.180 --> 01:08:25.539
And I think I put up I think I put up eight or nine for a four talk.
01:08:26.420 --> 01:08:30.659
And uh I went on and I win that motherfucker.
01:08:31.059 --> 01:08:32.019
Hell yeah.
01:08:32.420 --> 01:08:38.180
Uh you know, and so what what's your process when you put them up?
01:08:40.900 --> 01:08:43.140
Well, I like a lot of hand work.
01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:49.380
I I like I like to hand work them a lot and move them, rotation.
01:08:50.340 --> 01:08:56.980
You know, I like to keep them, I like to keep them up, if that makes sense, like alert, moving.
01:08:57.620 --> 01:09:02.340
I don't want him to set, I don't want him to set too long because in my opinion, he'll get stale.
01:09:03.620 --> 01:09:04.260
You know.
01:09:05.620 --> 01:09:13.380
He'll be in a fly pin for a little while, and then he'll be in a drop pin a little bit, scratching, and then I then I might throw them on a I might throw them back out on a rope for a little while.
01:09:13.539 --> 01:09:15.539
I I rotate them constantly.
01:09:15.780 --> 01:09:18.100
Uh I think that does a lot better, you know.
01:09:18.180 --> 01:09:22.500
And I I I've got buddies that I know that they just they're pretty, they're pretty basic, you know.
01:09:22.580 --> 01:09:26.900
They work them on the table, put them in a fly pin, work them on the table, put them on a fly pin.
01:09:26.980 --> 01:09:28.900
And and they do good, you know.
01:09:29.140 --> 01:09:33.300
Uh and some roosters do better like that than others.
01:09:33.460 --> 01:09:39.060
Some roosters do better with uh some roosters need need more moisture, some roosters don't.
01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:43.700
Uh I'll I'll tell you a story about a fella.
01:09:43.940 --> 01:09:53.380
Now I did I did not personally see this, but hundreds of other people have literally seen this first hand.
01:09:53.780 --> 01:10:04.660
So back in the day when it was legal, and Ramsay boys was probably as tough or the toughest to get by with.
01:10:06.260 --> 01:10:08.900
Uh from Kentucky all the way to Louisiana.
01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:17.460
And they were they they they they showed hatch gray roof, hatch gray roots.
01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:21.780
And uh that's all they showed.
01:10:23.540 --> 01:10:26.420
And they fed a pellet, a dry pellet.
01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:33.460
That's all they fed was a damn dry pellet that looked like a laying pellet, but it was just a dry, you know, no corn in it, nothing, just a pellet.
01:10:33.620 --> 01:10:37.620
And that pellet pulled out all the moisture in them roosters, you know what I mean?
01:10:38.100 --> 01:10:38.740
Yeah.
01:10:39.540 --> 01:10:46.980
So when they'd be down in Louisiana, you know, here it would be getting ready to it it'd come a rain.
01:10:47.460 --> 01:10:52.420
Well, they'd go out there and they'd drop their fucking roosters out, and I mean, just absolutely get them drowned.
01:10:54.340 --> 01:10:58.980
They'd they put the moisture back in them roosters where that where them pellets took it out.
01:10:59.060 --> 01:10:59.620
You know what I mean?
01:10:59.700 --> 01:11:04.500
And if it didn't rain, they'd drag a water hose out there and just saturate them roosters.
01:11:04.660 --> 01:11:06.740
And then they'd go on and win the fucking dirty.
01:11:06.980 --> 01:11:08.020
Rubber damn.
01:11:08.660 --> 01:11:08.900
Yeah.
01:11:09.060 --> 01:11:12.020
So I'm it picks them back up real quick.
01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:21.140
Yeah, yeah, like, you know, it it's just like I guess a person, you know, or a dog, you know, you you gotta have so much moisture, you know.
01:11:21.300 --> 01:11:33.860
I'm not a chemist or well, no, yeah, I know exactly what you're saying, because I I've seen it done with with you know with game dogs, is you know, you pull that pull that water and you get them get them really dry.
01:11:34.260 --> 01:11:45.300
And then, like you said, you know, you get them to where they're almost uh look, you know, lethargic a little bit and then pump them back full, it's like a a jolt boost of energy.
01:11:45.380 --> 01:11:51.620
You know, it's like if you get dehydrated and you go in there and you get your bag of IV fluid, well, you'll come out that somebody's feeling good.
01:11:51.940 --> 01:11:52.420
Oh, yeah.
01:11:52.660 --> 01:11:54.980
Well, that's the same, same difference, same principle.
01:11:55.620 --> 01:12:08.980
You know, but but um i if if if I could do anything day in and day out now legally, now we're speaking legally.
01:12:09.220 --> 01:12:09.940
That's right.
01:12:10.340 --> 01:12:13.220
Uh we don't do any illegal stuff, nobody does.
01:12:13.460 --> 01:12:14.980
I would with a dog.
01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:18.340
I would talk with chickens every day.
01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:23.540
I now I love my dog, don't get me wrong.
01:12:23.860 --> 01:12:29.140
But I have I mean, I love I love roots, I love fooling with them.
01:12:29.460 --> 01:12:40.660
It's just, you know, I I as far as me, I prefer I have more enjoyment raising and selecting versus the actual derbies.
01:12:40.740 --> 01:12:51.940
You know, that's fun and it's part of it, but I have more enjoyment and then to build them up and get them get them to where they need to be versus the actual doing, if that makes sense.
01:12:52.180 --> 01:12:52.820
Oh yeah, yeah.
01:12:52.900 --> 01:12:56.500
I mean, and and that's the same thing it was with me with dogs for a long time.
01:12:56.580 --> 01:12:59.940
It got a lot of people like to raise the puppies versus having old dogs.
01:13:00.100 --> 01:13:02.500
Yep, you know, and I've done got to that point.
01:13:02.580 --> 01:13:04.260
I like messing with young dogs.
01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:11.140
I it gets me aggravated, you know, and and I get stressed out and all that, but it keeps me alive.
01:13:11.380 --> 01:13:11.780
Oh yeah.
01:13:12.020 --> 01:13:15.140
You know, you get kind of dog gonna make a man want to quit.
01:13:15.300 --> 01:13:18.580
Oh my Lord, uh hell, that's three days a week for me.
01:13:18.900 --> 01:13:20.660
Sorry as these some bitches are.
01:13:20.820 --> 01:13:22.820
I f I swear I got plots.
01:13:23.700 --> 01:13:26.020
Hey, well, I don't know how sorry they are.
01:13:26.100 --> 01:13:29.620
I'm just gonna I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna just say this right now.
01:13:29.780 --> 01:13:32.740
I don't know how sorry they are or how not sorry they are.
01:13:32.900 --> 01:13:40.180
I see you get the game, I see you have fun, but now I'm just gonna let you and everybody listening know something.
01:13:40.340 --> 01:13:43.460
You ain't had fun until me and Ernie Lee come down there and go hunting.
01:13:43.860 --> 01:13:44.820
I'm ready.
01:13:45.220 --> 01:13:45.860
I'm ready.
01:13:45.940 --> 01:13:46.980
You gotta come on.
01:13:47.140 --> 01:13:48.740
And that's that's the thing about it.
01:13:50.100 --> 01:13:51.140
I I think Ernie Lee.
01:13:52.020 --> 01:13:53.620
Yeah, tell him come on.
01:13:54.820 --> 01:13:59.300
He said, You talked to our old buddy, and I said, I said, Who the fuck are you talking about?
01:13:59.460 --> 01:14:04.820
You know, and he's like, our old buddy that we we talked to him down instead, hog pen.
01:14:05.140 --> 01:14:09.300
And I'm like, I'm thinking I'm like, damn, I talked to everybody.
01:14:09.460 --> 01:14:10.100
Yeah.
01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:12.820
And he said, the one down there in Alabama.
01:14:12.980 --> 01:14:13.940
I said, Joey.
01:14:14.260 --> 01:14:16.020
He said, yeah, that's his name.
01:14:16.100 --> 01:14:16.580
That's his name.
01:14:16.820 --> 01:14:18.660
Yes, we said he didn't know my damn name.
01:14:18.900 --> 01:14:20.740
Ernie Lee, something.
01:14:22.020 --> 01:14:27.140
I said, uh, yeah, he said, hey, we need to come down in a few weeks and go a hunting.
01:14:27.300 --> 01:14:29.460
He said, yeah, I'd like to go down there.
01:14:29.540 --> 01:14:31.380
He said, I think I'd have a good time.
01:14:31.540 --> 01:14:33.300
I said, yeah, you have a real good time.
01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:35.460
All you do is stay at the fucking house.
01:14:35.780 --> 01:14:38.180
It'd be like damn Disney World to him.
01:14:39.060 --> 01:14:41.060
We'd show him a boar hog.
01:14:41.140 --> 01:14:47.140
We'd show him a maybe a good big rack buck and maybe a little gin's hang on the side of the mountain.
01:14:47.300 --> 01:14:49.380
Well, we ain't got no mountains like y'all got.
01:14:49.460 --> 01:14:52.980
We got heels, but hell, y'all probably just jump up and down these.
01:14:53.220 --> 01:14:54.420
Y'all probably wouldn't even have to walk them.
01:14:54.580 --> 01:14:56.420
Y'all just jump up to some bitch.
01:14:57.060 --> 01:14:57.860
Yeah, yeah.
01:14:58.100 --> 01:15:10.420
So I'll tell you, the the way we got on this whole Ernie Lee thing was you tell, you know, a lot of people have seen that video that I put out where it talks about rooster finger pills.
01:15:10.660 --> 01:15:12.660
That that's the first time I met Ernie Lee.
01:15:12.740 --> 01:15:17.620
And I'm telling you, man, ever since that from the first minute I talked to him, I said, I like this old boy right here.
01:15:18.020 --> 01:15:19.860
Hey, he he's as good as they are.
01:15:20.020 --> 01:15:24.260
Now, now listen, I know a lot of people, you know what I mean?
01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:26.580
I and I've got a lot of friends, if that makes sense.
01:15:26.660 --> 01:15:27.300
You know what I mean?
01:15:28.260 --> 01:15:39.700
But as far as a solid, solid, right, wrong, good or bad, Ernie Lee has never, I mean, he's been my number one since I knew him, since I met him.
01:15:39.780 --> 01:15:44.980
When we I I worked with him at the Rock for you, he worked there prior to me, and then I, you know, hired on.
01:15:45.940 --> 01:15:49.220
I said, hell, I'd be like, I like that old boy, I like that house.
01:15:49.540 --> 01:16:01.140
And uh we just got talking one thing or another, you know, and we started fishing and then hunting, and you know, uh, as a matter of fact, he's the man that taught me everything I know about tin sign.
01:16:01.780 --> 01:16:02.180
Yeah.
01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:07.460
Uh prior to earning lead, I didn't give a fuck about walking to the woods and digging on no boots.
01:16:07.620 --> 01:16:08.420
Fuck that.
01:16:09.220 --> 01:16:11.940
Uh I want to learn more about it, you know.
01:16:12.020 --> 01:16:16.820
I mean, I I have limited knowledge on it, but um I've researched a lot.
01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:23.220
I found some, and I know and I know there's you don't need no damn pecker pills if you've got that.
01:16:24.980 --> 01:16:28.340
Hey, you know, there's uh No, go ahead, go ahead.
01:16:28.580 --> 01:16:36.580
What it's it's long and tiring, but at the same time it's it's relaxing and peaceful.
01:16:36.660 --> 01:16:37.220
You know what I mean?
01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:39.940
Like you're just out there, you're just out there.
01:16:40.100 --> 01:16:54.580
Uh I will say this, and and a lot of people don't, but I personally prefer to go with someone else or have somebody go with me just because uh you get way back in there, and I don't know about where you're at, but up here, you know.
01:16:54.740 --> 01:16:59.220
Oh yeah, um, it's rough, there's no cell phone service.
01:16:59.300 --> 01:17:02.020
You get hit by one of these big ass fucking rattlesnakes.
01:17:02.340 --> 01:17:03.940
Oh, anything can happen, man.
01:17:04.020 --> 01:17:04.580
Anything happened.
01:17:04.980 --> 01:17:07.460
You split, slip, file, break your leg.
01:17:07.540 --> 01:17:11.220
Yep, you know, and and I'll tell you, you've seen Ernie Love.
01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:12.580
He's not a little fella.
01:17:12.820 --> 01:17:15.540
No, he's not he's not fat, but he's not a little fella.
01:17:16.260 --> 01:17:20.260
And he's I'd I'd say he's your age or maybe a little older than you.
01:17:20.340 --> 01:17:21.140
I think he's 56.
01:17:21.300 --> 01:17:24.580
I was thinking to say, I think he's a couple years older than me when me and him was talking.
01:17:24.660 --> 01:17:25.780
I think he said he was going to be a few.
01:17:26.660 --> 01:17:29.780
He's he's six or fifty-five or something around there.
01:17:29.940 --> 01:17:30.100
Yeah.
01:17:30.260 --> 01:17:33.060
And that's some bitch that go through the woods like a fucking gray squirrel.
01:17:33.300 --> 01:17:34.180
Oh, I bet.
01:17:34.980 --> 01:17:35.620
I bet.
01:17:36.420 --> 01:17:43.140
But yeah, uh, I went and helped him the other day pull some new water line, and I was aggravating him.
01:17:43.220 --> 01:17:44.740
I said, Pap, how are you gonna make it?
01:17:44.820 --> 01:17:50.420
He said, Son, I'll I'll I'll I'll outlock your fucking skinny ace in the woods any day or something like that.
01:17:50.900 --> 01:17:56.260
Oh yeah, you know, but uh yeah Ernie Lee's Ernie Lee's one of a kind.
01:17:56.420 --> 01:17:58.500
He's he's he's simple, you know what I mean?
01:17:58.580 --> 01:18:01.700
He don't he don't get excited about a whole lot of stuff now.
01:18:02.660 --> 01:18:05.380
You know, and I guess that's why I like him, you know.
01:18:05.460 --> 01:18:07.460
He don't he's not fancy.
01:18:07.700 --> 01:18:08.260
Yeah.
01:18:08.740 --> 01:18:12.740
As a matter of fact, Ernie Lee got one of them puppies off of Daisy and Oscar.
01:18:13.140 --> 01:18:13.780
Yeah.
01:18:14.340 --> 01:18:17.700
He got one of them, and he loved that little dog.
01:18:17.780 --> 01:18:18.740
He named him Trigger.
01:18:18.980 --> 01:18:22.100
And uh he Trigger caught everything on that mountain.
01:18:22.260 --> 01:18:24.100
I mean for fucking about it.
01:18:26.100 --> 01:18:33.220
He caught everything and he he he puffed ran and backed over him one day, leaving to work in the dark and backed over him and killed him.
01:18:33.460 --> 01:18:34.180
Damn.
01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:36.820
Yeah, that's what happened to you good ones.
01:18:36.900 --> 01:18:37.540
That's what happened to you.
01:18:37.780 --> 01:18:40.500
Oh yeah, you you can't kill a SARS-CoV-1.
01:18:40.820 --> 01:18:41.780
No, no.
01:18:42.660 --> 01:19:01.140
All right, so let's go, let's, let's, let's go to the storytime deal about you know, the video that uh that I posted uh when we was out there at at the plot bay, there's a lot of people, there's a good amount of people, you know, they couldn't hear all of it.
01:19:01.380 --> 01:19:03.860
I said, Oh, them damn dogs is barking.
01:19:04.100 --> 01:19:05.060
Them dogs bark.
01:19:05.220 --> 01:19:06.420
I can't hear because of them dogs.
01:19:06.740 --> 01:19:07.860
Get them dogs up.
01:19:08.980 --> 01:19:11.220
I was like, we're at a damn field trial.
01:19:11.460 --> 01:19:13.380
I mean, they're gonna be barking.
01:19:13.780 --> 01:19:19.220
So do do you want to take a minute a minute or two and tell them a story right here?
01:19:21.620 --> 01:19:22.820
I mean, I don't care.
01:19:22.980 --> 01:19:23.700
Let's go for it.
01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:24.740
Lay it on them.
01:19:25.940 --> 01:19:32.980
Now, the first time you told it we was out there, I I caught it, you was about halfway through, and I said, Oh, I said, back it up and let's let's record this.
01:19:33.220 --> 01:19:37.460
But you know, at first times like you just you you was just flowing real good.
01:19:37.620 --> 01:19:42.580
So tell tell tell them in the in the real words of rooster what happened.
01:19:43.780 --> 01:19:50.820
All right, so a buddy of mine gave me one of them little old pills.
01:19:51.140 --> 01:19:53.460
Now, I I'm 37.
01:19:53.940 --> 01:19:56.020
I don't I don't need no fucking help.
01:19:56.180 --> 01:19:57.220
You know what I mean?
01:19:58.580 --> 01:20:05.380
Anyhow, I hell, I was like, fuck, I I'll take it, you know, hell, I I let's see what all the fuss is about, you know.
01:20:05.460 --> 01:20:08.340
I mean, y'all old fuckers might need one, but hell, let's just see.
01:20:08.820 --> 01:20:12.820
Well I had somebody I was gonna go see.
01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:16.900
And he said, take that thing about 30 minutes prior.
01:20:17.460 --> 01:20:19.380
But he said, take half of it.
01:20:19.940 --> 01:20:21.780
Hell I ate the whole thing.
01:20:23.540 --> 01:20:25.700
Hell, I didn't raise no bitch.
01:20:25.860 --> 01:20:26.180
Okay.
01:20:26.980 --> 01:20:44.580
And uh I go and I do my deal, you know, and I'm uh literally like three minutes after I leave, I feel something that don't feel like a man should after he's done.
01:20:45.700 --> 01:20:49.220
He's supposed to be tired and more to fuck out, and you know, all this stuff.
01:20:49.300 --> 01:20:54.340
And I'm like, dude, my fucking, I'm I feel I felt like I'd just done math or something.
01:20:54.420 --> 01:20:56.180
I was just wide fucking open.
01:20:56.340 --> 01:21:00.660
I felt my dumb old chest just beating, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me?
01:21:00.820 --> 01:21:09.780
Well, I come on to the house, and that old chest, my kicker's over there going, it's just a beating.
01:21:10.660 --> 01:21:12.180
I'm like, what the fuck, dude?
01:21:12.260 --> 01:21:14.020
I'm about to have a heart attack.
01:21:14.340 --> 01:21:15.780
I call Ernie Lee.
01:21:15.860 --> 01:21:18.500
And Ernie Lee's like, are you sure?
01:21:18.580 --> 01:21:24.900
I'm like, Ernie Lee, I know what the fuck my heart's feeling like right now, and this son of bitch is about to bust one out of my fucking chest.
01:21:27.540 --> 01:21:35.300
He's like, Oh hell, it'll be alright, it'll it'll it'll wear down or whatever, however he said, it'll it'll wire off or something in a little bit.
01:21:35.380 --> 01:21:36.660
Just go on to bed.
01:21:38.580 --> 01:21:40.260
Literally, felt like I was on drugs.
01:21:40.740 --> 01:21:42.420
I couldn't go something to sleep.
01:21:44.100 --> 01:21:46.820
So I was laying there and laying there and laying there.
01:21:49.060 --> 01:21:55.780
And I'm pretty sure I managed to fall asleep a little bit, and but I I didn't sleep long and I woke up early as hell.
01:21:56.740 --> 01:21:59.300
That somebody's just a beat and like, ooh, boop, oop.
01:21:59.460 --> 01:22:03.380
I'm like, motherfucker, I used I mean I've done drugs and didn't feel this way.
01:22:04.580 --> 01:22:07.460
And uh I I didn't know.
01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:12.500
So I Googled to see if the motherfucking emergency room was open at that time.
01:22:14.180 --> 01:22:22.260
And I and I went and they asked me what my sentence was, and I told them I was having a fucking heart attack.
01:22:22.580 --> 01:22:29.380
Well, they they got on the phone or whatever, and some code, some all bullshit.
01:22:29.460 --> 01:22:32.260
I guess that's the fucking cardiac people, I don't know.
01:22:33.940 --> 01:22:40.900
Come on in there, and then they they put me on all they had motherfucking wires everywhere.
01:22:41.780 --> 01:22:44.740
I had more wires than a fucking BMW on me.
01:22:46.260 --> 01:22:48.980
And that fucking old thing, what do they call that thing?
01:22:49.060 --> 01:22:51.780
The the little old thing with the lines, I don't know what they call it.
01:22:52.020 --> 01:22:55.380
The old EKG machine, yeah, the heart monitor deal, yeah.
01:22:55.620 --> 01:22:55.940
Yeah.
01:22:56.100 --> 01:22:57.940
They had that thing, and that thing goes.
01:23:02.580 --> 01:23:04.500
It was like a fucking trend switch going out.
01:23:04.660 --> 01:23:05.220
Damn.
01:23:06.660 --> 01:23:10.260
And I'm thinking, I swear I'm about to have a fucking heart attack.
01:23:10.340 --> 01:23:14.340
Well, they they you know, they leave me hooked up on that motherfucker for forever.
01:23:15.380 --> 01:23:17.540
And they never even just acknowledged me in there.
01:23:17.780 --> 01:23:25.060
And they finally come in there and ask what's wrong, and I I'm telling them, you know, and asking if I'd done any drugs and all this stuff.
01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:26.340
I said, No, no.
01:23:26.820 --> 01:23:33.220
Well, they took blood and urine and all that, and they come back and you know, everything was fine.
01:23:34.500 --> 01:23:36.820
And I'm like, no, I'm not fucking fine.
01:23:36.900 --> 01:23:40.580
Like I I tell that little old nurse, I said, just stick your hand on my chest.
01:23:40.660 --> 01:23:48.100
And she stuck my hand on my chest, and she couldn't really fit it, but I could feel my motherfucking heart and just boom, boom, boom.
01:23:48.260 --> 01:23:51.860
Well, but I hadn't told him I'd took a damn dick pill.
01:23:54.740 --> 01:24:02.180
And uh well, I finally just decided, well, I just I I better just go ahead and tell these some bitches what the hell I done did.
01:24:02.420 --> 01:24:05.940
Well, I tell him, and they're like, why in the world would you want to do that?
01:24:06.020 --> 01:24:08.900
And I was like, hell, I just wanted to see what the fuck it was all about.
01:24:09.460 --> 01:24:12.340
You know, and they're like, You're kidding me.
01:24:12.500 --> 01:24:15.940
I'm like, no, no, unfortunately, I'm not fucking kidding me.
01:24:16.180 --> 01:24:24.180
I took one, and like, if you just look at this son of a bitch, it's gonna stand up ready to go to work.
01:24:25.460 --> 01:24:32.260
And uh, you know, they're like, oh, you'll be fine, it'll it'll kind of wear itself out, or you know, whatever.
01:24:32.340 --> 01:24:38.340
And I'm like, motherfucker, but I'm telling you, I could have cut a fucking, I could have cut an armored truck in two.
01:24:40.100 --> 01:24:42.660
Yeah, like it was bad.
01:24:42.900 --> 01:24:43.540
It was bad.
01:24:43.620 --> 01:24:45.140
I just tell you, listen, listen.
01:24:45.300 --> 01:24:47.940
I remember seeing comments on that post and stuff.
01:24:48.100 --> 01:24:52.900
Listen, anybody listening, don't take them motherfuckers.
01:24:52.980 --> 01:24:53.860
They'll kill you.
01:24:54.820 --> 01:24:56.100
They'll kill you.
01:24:56.580 --> 01:24:58.820
Just drink you some fucking coffee.
01:24:59.060 --> 01:25:01.060
You'll be all smoke you a sick pick.
01:25:01.380 --> 01:25:04.820
Go do what you gotta do, whether you three minutes or 15 minutes, don't matter.
01:25:04.900 --> 01:25:05.940
It's better than being fucking.
01:25:07.460 --> 01:25:14.100
I tell you from that video, I have found out that there's there's a lot of women that don't mind a little minute man there action.
01:25:14.180 --> 01:25:16.740
You know, well, I I mean I I seen that shit too.
01:25:17.220 --> 01:25:19.300
I was like, well, I'll be down, you know.
01:25:19.380 --> 01:25:23.060
They I don't want nobody huffing and puffing over me that long.
01:25:23.140 --> 01:25:24.740
I'm like, well, shit, fire.
01:25:25.540 --> 01:25:27.540
Well, we thought you wanted to be there all night.
01:25:27.780 --> 01:25:32.180
Yeah, I was like, well, you know, hell, I maybe I don't, you know, don't feel so bad now.
01:25:32.820 --> 01:25:33.780
Yeah, yeah.
01:25:34.020 --> 01:25:42.820
Yeah, but it it's like we it it really did, you know, it blew up there pretty quick, and then it kind of kind of leveled out.
01:25:43.220 --> 01:25:45.540
And then I put it on my personal Facebook page.
01:25:45.620 --> 01:25:53.380
I think we're a little over a million views on it, uh half a million on another one, quarter million on another one.
01:25:53.460 --> 01:26:00.260
So, I mean, it does pretty damn good, you know, just for me standing around talking at the damn bay pen.
01:26:02.020 --> 01:26:02.420
Oh, yeah.
01:26:02.820 --> 01:26:04.740
And there's all kind of women on there, son.
01:26:04.980 --> 01:26:06.980
They've more women on there than I've ever seen.
01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:09.460
I'm talking about every day.
01:26:11.220 --> 01:26:12.660
Every county in the country.
01:26:12.820 --> 01:26:13.300
Oh yeah.
01:26:13.540 --> 01:26:15.060
Wanting to talk to rooster.
01:26:17.060 --> 01:26:20.020
You went on one escapade from that video, didn't you?
01:26:20.820 --> 01:26:22.180
Yeah, yeah.
01:26:23.060 --> 01:26:25.620
He's like, fuck you, don't bring that up.
01:26:26.500 --> 01:26:29.060
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:29.220 --> 01:26:29.620
Yeah.
01:26:29.860 --> 01:26:33.140
That's uh bitch getting married and moved across the country the next week.
01:26:33.300 --> 01:26:36.100
I said, damn, bud, how we got you going on now.
01:26:36.580 --> 01:26:36.900
Lord.
01:26:38.420 --> 01:26:42.020
Yeah, fucking Arnie Lee come got me an ice.
01:26:45.700 --> 01:26:46.020
Yeah.
01:26:46.180 --> 01:26:46.980
Oh yeah.
01:26:47.060 --> 01:26:50.260
I seen them on, I seen them on there talking about old Ernie Lee too now.
01:26:50.420 --> 01:26:51.380
Oh yeah.
01:26:52.660 --> 01:26:53.780
That's what I said.
01:26:53.860 --> 01:26:59.860
And and look I think myself, what these old bitches doing watching fucking Hogmutton.
01:27:00.260 --> 01:27:02.900
Yeah, that's what that's what I didn't understand.
01:27:02.980 --> 01:27:05.780
And I'm gonna tell you where the worst one's at is on TikTok.
01:27:06.020 --> 01:27:06.900
It I don't know.
01:27:07.300 --> 01:27:13.140
I think it's women, I've got so many followers that are just women.
01:27:13.620 --> 01:27:14.500
You're welcome.
01:27:14.660 --> 01:27:15.700
Yeah, thank you.
01:27:16.100 --> 01:27:24.260
And the thing about it is like, you know, I I don't I didn't want a whole bunch of followers or none of that because I don't want all the bullshit that comes along with it, you know.
01:27:24.420 --> 01:27:30.100
I'd rather just have my kind of people there, which like I said, don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for it.
01:27:30.260 --> 01:27:33.060
Because, you know, I put the video out and I was like, well, let's see.
01:27:34.020 --> 01:27:37.140
You know, I talked to you about it and I said, I said, I think that's a pretty good little story.
01:27:37.220 --> 01:27:38.500
I said, Do you care if I post it?
01:27:38.580 --> 01:27:40.100
You said, Well, I don't care.
01:27:40.260 --> 01:27:42.100
I said, Well, you know, we'll see what it does.
01:27:42.180 --> 01:27:55.540
And then, but anyway, on TikTok, though, I couldn't tell you how many, literally, I know there's at least a thousand plus that it's just women that followed me because of that.
01:27:55.620 --> 01:27:57.060
And I'm like, hey, that's not me.
01:27:57.140 --> 01:27:57.940
That's the rooster.
01:27:58.020 --> 01:27:58.980
You got to get with him.
01:27:59.460 --> 01:28:05.860
You know, you you gotta talk with that guy to get the damn Kentucky Derby pecker pill action.
01:28:06.980 --> 01:28:09.620
I mean, the the that that's all I can tell you.
01:28:09.940 --> 01:28:15.620
And uh it ain't the Kentucky Derby no more, it's more like the fucking the little pony ride at the damn fair.
01:28:15.860 --> 01:28:16.820
Oh, the carousel.
01:28:17.060 --> 01:28:17.460
There you go.
01:28:17.860 --> 01:28:18.180
Damn.
01:28:18.340 --> 01:28:19.780
Oh, the real ponies.
01:28:19.940 --> 01:28:20.820
Oh, the real ponies.
01:28:20.900 --> 01:28:22.420
Oh, now he's damn stud dogging.
01:28:22.500 --> 01:28:23.300
That's what I'm talking about.
01:28:23.540 --> 01:28:29.140
Yeah, yeah, you just go around in a circle for you make like five laps for like five five tokens.
01:28:34.260 --> 01:28:36.420
Oh, goddamn boy, you crazy.
01:28:36.660 --> 01:28:43.140
Oh, well, has anything else exciting happened, or you got another you got another good story you can leave our our listeners with?
01:28:43.380 --> 01:28:47.700
And I mean, because this will be a this gonna be a good lasting impression right here.
01:28:47.940 --> 01:28:51.380
Uh we're in over a hundred countries worldwide.
01:28:51.700 --> 01:28:53.460
Man, I don't I don't I don't know.
01:28:53.540 --> 01:28:58.020
I mean or we or you can make up some and we'll do another episode here in a week or two.
01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:04.180
I mean, I I've got A hundred million that that are stories, but they're you know they're real.
01:29:04.580 --> 01:29:06.420
But I don't I don't know.
01:29:06.500 --> 01:29:09.300
Like I it's hard to do it right off the top of your head.
01:29:09.380 --> 01:29:09.700
I don't know.
01:29:09.860 --> 01:29:11.140
I have found that out.
01:29:11.460 --> 01:29:17.860
Well, I mean I've got a whole bunch about a piece of shit that I just divorced.
01:29:18.100 --> 01:29:18.740
Yeah.
01:29:19.940 --> 01:29:20.900
Everybody loves that guy.
01:29:21.940 --> 01:29:28.340
And some of the shady shit that was pulled during like the separation.
01:29:29.540 --> 01:29:31.940
But we'll get into that another time.
01:29:32.100 --> 01:29:32.420
Yeah.
01:29:32.660 --> 01:29:38.020
Uh you know, there there's I I made up with stories, you know.
01:29:38.100 --> 01:29:42.020
I mean I've got a story about anything you want to talk about, probably.
01:29:42.340 --> 01:29:43.220
I understand.
01:29:43.460 --> 01:29:43.940
I understand.
01:29:44.100 --> 01:29:48.180
That's what that like I said, that I wanted to get the dogman part out there first.
01:29:48.980 --> 01:29:51.140
Because that that's the real side of it.
01:29:51.300 --> 01:29:57.700
Uh and like you said, you you got stories out to out the wazoo because that's your life.
01:29:58.100 --> 01:30:01.140
And I I mean, I'm the I'm very similar.
01:30:01.700 --> 01:30:06.580
People wouldn't believe, a lot of people don't believe half what I say anyway, but it it's the truth.
01:30:06.740 --> 01:30:08.820
I mean, like, that shit happens in my life.
01:30:08.900 --> 01:30:15.860
You you wouldn't think it happened to anybody, but somebody like you, I think that's why we get we're we get along so good.
01:30:16.260 --> 01:30:17.780
Same thing with uh with Uncle Pat.
01:30:18.020 --> 01:30:19.700
They probably don't think I know no fucking bad.
01:30:19.780 --> 01:30:21.220
They probably think I'm dumber in hell.
01:30:21.380 --> 01:30:23.540
Well, that uh it's gotta be the same thing for me.
01:30:23.620 --> 01:30:24.660
Well, that's like Uncle Pat.
01:30:24.740 --> 01:30:27.700
He tells some stories, and people like, I think he's full of shit.
01:30:27.780 --> 01:30:29.060
And I'm like, no.
01:30:29.780 --> 01:30:30.740
He's telling the truth.
01:30:30.820 --> 01:30:33.220
It's just his life is exciting.
01:30:33.540 --> 01:30:36.500
He has shit happened to him, and it ain't good all the time.
01:30:36.580 --> 01:30:43.700
It sounds like it's fucking hilarious, but a lot of times, like you said, hiding in that fucking culvert from the cops, that ain't fun.
01:30:43.780 --> 01:30:44.900
I've been there.
01:30:45.380 --> 01:30:47.540
Oh man, I let me let me tell you a story.
01:30:47.620 --> 01:30:49.220
I'll tell you a story right quick.
01:30:50.740 --> 01:30:58.580
So back years ago now, years ago, I've been playing off narcotics for about 12 years now.
01:30:59.860 --> 01:31:00.420
All right.
01:31:01.220 --> 01:31:08.260
But but previous, previous, prior to that, I was, you know, I'm not gonna say strung out, but I I party.
01:31:09.860 --> 01:31:11.700
And this is back in the yellow book days.
01:31:11.780 --> 01:31:12.820
You know what a yellow book is?
01:31:13.060 --> 01:31:13.860
Oh yeah.
01:31:14.340 --> 01:31:15.060
Phone book.
01:31:15.220 --> 01:31:15.620
That's right.
01:31:15.700 --> 01:31:16.340
A lot of five things.
01:31:16.660 --> 01:31:22.100
A lot of these motherfuckers that listeners, they probably have no idea what the damn yellow pages is.
01:31:22.500 --> 01:31:29.620
Well, listen, let me tell you, I used to get I when I when I get fucked up, I like to talk now.
01:31:29.780 --> 01:31:30.420
You know what I mean?
01:31:30.580 --> 01:31:30.900
Oh, I can't get it.
01:31:32.820 --> 01:31:33.060
No.
01:31:34.100 --> 01:31:37.860
Well, it'd be it'd be two o'clock in the morning, I'd just get the fucking phone book.
01:31:38.020 --> 01:31:40.260
And I'd go to call them motherfuckers.
01:31:41.940 --> 01:31:45.460
And I I'd ramble on, you remember that fucking dog you gave me?
01:31:45.620 --> 01:31:48.340
And they're like, Don, it is three o'clock in the morning.
01:31:48.420 --> 01:31:50.660
I'm like, I don't give a fuck, let's talk.
01:31:51.940 --> 01:31:57.700
I got cussed out a bunch, you know, and uh I'd done that for four or five days.
01:31:57.940 --> 01:32:08.740
Uh I mean, I'd sit there with that phone book in my fucking hand until the numbers, all the numbers and all the letters and words, just be it'd be the same exact page where I'd sit there and look at it so much and they'd all blur together.
01:32:08.900 --> 01:32:10.740
I'm like, I need to go to bed.
01:32:10.900 --> 01:32:11.620
Yeah, time taking it.
01:32:11.780 --> 01:32:13.060
But I couldn't go to bed.
01:32:15.300 --> 01:32:20.180
I'd tell you today, uh party.
01:32:21.060 --> 01:32:23.780
And I was on I was on six to six curve.
01:32:24.020 --> 01:32:26.900
I couldn't leave the fucking house after six and eight.
01:32:29.060 --> 01:32:36.020
Well my filler, he stopped by and he dropped me off, you know.
01:32:37.780 --> 01:32:43.460
Well, then the buddy shows up and he had he had he had his stuff.
01:32:43.940 --> 01:32:46.580
I said, hell yeah, we're gonna party.
01:32:47.460 --> 01:32:54.180
I pull out my lighter, he pulled out his lighter, and both of our goddamn lighters is there in the fucking door knobing, and my buddy didn't drive, he got dropped off.
01:32:54.260 --> 01:32:58.340
I'm on six to six, couldn't fucking drive, couldn't leave the fucking house.
01:32:58.500 --> 01:32:59.220
Oh hell.
01:32:59.460 --> 01:33:01.540
And I'm thinking, what the fuck are we about to do?
01:33:01.620 --> 01:33:03.860
Like why like I can't just sit here and look at it.
01:33:04.020 --> 01:33:05.380
This is not a Mona Lisa.
01:33:05.700 --> 01:33:06.660
That's right.
01:33:07.540 --> 01:33:17.940
So I took and I ripped the fucking pages out of the Coon Hound Bloodlines magazine, rolled them up, and lift them motherfuckers off the fucking stove by.
01:33:19.540 --> 01:33:21.300
And got your flame.
01:33:22.100 --> 01:33:22.740
Yeah, yeah.
01:33:25.140 --> 01:33:29.140
Two seconds because that flame would get really fucking big on that piece of paper.
01:33:29.380 --> 01:33:30.740
Oh well yeah.
01:33:31.380 --> 01:33:36.740
Yeah, it'd run up that paper real quick, so you have to do what you gotta do real quick and then shake that paper out.
01:33:37.380 --> 01:33:38.340
God almighty.
01:33:38.500 --> 01:33:43.060
And uh we done that, we done that for I don't know, two or three hours.
01:33:43.300 --> 01:33:51.700
And then, you know, we uh the next morning, I kinda I kinda doze off, you know, a little bit.
01:33:52.020 --> 01:33:59.700
Wake up the next morning, I'm I go in the kitchen and I'm looking, and there's goddamn three inch pieces of burnt paper all over the fucking place.
01:33:59.780 --> 01:34:02.180
I'm like, what the fuck done happened here?
01:34:03.060 --> 01:34:09.460
I'm talking, I'm talking six or seven fucking coming down bloodlines just tore all to hell.
01:34:10.660 --> 01:34:13.220
And I'm like, what the fuck done happened here?
01:34:13.860 --> 01:34:17.060
And uh, yeah, that was that was that was wild, you know.
01:34:17.220 --> 01:34:23.540
I I don't I don't reg I can't say I regret any of that stuff.
01:34:23.780 --> 01:34:26.980
But I'm glad I don't have no problem with it now, but now I had a lot of fun.
01:34:28.660 --> 01:34:33.220
And you learn shit over the years from, you know, the making the mistakes.
01:34:33.460 --> 01:34:39.380
Uh you look back on it and you're like, you know, hey, but like you said, also it ain't got a hold of you.
01:34:39.700 --> 01:34:42.820
And you're in you're in control, so that's the main thing.
01:34:43.140 --> 01:34:50.500
I mean, I I hell I ain't, you know, I I hear it, and I'm gonna be right on this comment when I say this.
01:34:50.980 --> 01:34:51.540
Whatever.
01:34:51.700 --> 01:34:52.660
It's my opinion.
01:34:52.900 --> 01:34:55.060
People say it's a disease.
01:34:55.380 --> 01:34:58.660
No, no, it ain't a damn disease, it's your fucking choice.
01:34:58.820 --> 01:35:00.180
That's exactly right.
01:35:00.420 --> 01:35:09.780
You know, it is what it is, but you know, I I've I I growed up and said, you know what, my mom and dad, they're in the ground because of that shit.
01:35:10.020 --> 01:35:10.340
Yeah.
01:35:10.500 --> 01:35:13.940
I didn't want nobody looking over no box saying, damn, I wish he straightened up.
01:35:14.100 --> 01:35:16.420
So pretty much that I'm done with it.
01:35:16.500 --> 01:35:21.780
And I I I, you know, uh at that time in my life I wasn't fucking with no dogs.
01:35:22.100 --> 01:35:26.020
I mean, I had prior, but I wasn't fucking with no dogs or no nothing.
01:35:26.180 --> 01:35:33.780
I you know, and I quit and I you know got back to these old dogs again, and you know, I ain't look back at it.
01:35:34.020 --> 01:35:37.940
I think when I meet I mean I don't fuck with I don't even socialize the motherfuckers that do it.
01:35:38.100 --> 01:35:42.100
No, you well you can't, and you know that it's it's like that with anything though, Rooster.
01:35:42.260 --> 01:35:43.540
You know as well as I do.
01:35:43.780 --> 01:35:47.060
I mean, uh you you're gonna become who you hang out with if you ain't.
01:35:47.460 --> 01:35:53.940
I'm not gonna sit I I I can't if I'm hanging around you and you're doing the shit, well, you know what's gonna happen.
01:35:54.100 --> 01:35:54.740
Yeah.
01:35:55.540 --> 01:35:58.660
So I I just I just stay away from people like that, you know.
01:35:58.740 --> 01:36:00.900
I mean, I'm pretty simple in life, you know.
01:36:01.140 --> 01:36:06.500
Uh I have some exciting days and then there's some days that ain't so exciting like everybody else's, you know.
01:36:06.660 --> 01:36:14.820
But uh I I really think that you know, I I just went through I just went through a divorce.
01:36:14.980 --> 01:36:16.740
I'm not really s I'm not really upset about that.
01:36:16.820 --> 01:36:18.260
I'd stuck that, you know, whatever.
01:36:18.340 --> 01:36:20.740
But I I I ain't got to see my youngest, you know, in a little while.
01:36:20.820 --> 01:36:38.660
And and I really think that if I hadn't have got that puppy from Corey, I was I was on the verge of going crazy, and then I got that little bastard and this little something, you know, and then I of course I've got these other ones, and then I've got I got two females from James Mills.
01:36:38.980 --> 01:36:39.620
Yep, Mr.
01:36:39.780 --> 01:36:41.060
James is a good man.
01:36:41.780 --> 01:36:45.300
Yeah, yeah, he's very he's very, very knowledgeable on terriers.
01:36:45.460 --> 01:36:52.020
Yeah, he he's had well, he's knowledgeable on any kind of dog, really, but he's he's knowledgeable on them terriers.
01:36:52.260 --> 01:36:57.300
He he he's been bringing in those y'all terriers for 40 years.
01:36:57.620 --> 01:37:02.580
Well, this this one female that I've got that he imported her from Croatia.
01:37:02.660 --> 01:37:03.300
Yep.
01:37:03.860 --> 01:37:07.300
Now, I can't tell you that motherfucker's name.
01:37:09.220 --> 01:37:20.100
It's I I'm not even gonna uh I it's butchered as it is looking at it, but I reckon what I've gathered in that language, in English, it means tree.
01:37:20.180 --> 01:37:22.420
So that bitch is her name is tree.
01:37:22.660 --> 01:37:23.540
Damn, hell.
01:37:23.620 --> 01:37:31.780
As long as she knows you're I don't know if it's I don't know what the fuck it is, you know, and then there's another bitch out there that I got.
01:37:32.020 --> 01:37:37.860
Her name is I don't fucking know, but but but the N-word is English and it is twist.
01:37:38.340 --> 01:37:39.140
Diguelo.
01:37:40.820 --> 01:37:45.140
D E what De Guelo D-E-G-U-E-L-L-O.
01:37:46.260 --> 01:37:47.540
Yep, yeah, that's it.
01:37:47.620 --> 01:37:58.020
And uh from what I've gathered, that bitch is off of uh a big famous hard-going dog named Jojo and a bitch named Caser.
01:37:58.260 --> 01:37:59.300
Case her and Jojo.
01:37:59.460 --> 01:38:04.100
They uh Jojo and then produce some of the best hole dogs ever.
01:38:04.580 --> 01:38:08.340
And small, well-built, very spannable dogs, too.
01:38:08.420 --> 01:38:16.740
You can grab them right behind their front legs and and just like you know, put pressure on them, and you'll see where their chest cavity will lay down flat.
01:38:16.900 --> 01:38:18.580
That's how they get in those holes.
01:38:18.660 --> 01:38:22.020
Even as big as they are, they they can still get in a hole.
01:38:22.740 --> 01:38:23.220
You know.
01:38:23.460 --> 01:38:35.460
You know, he told me that the Jojo dogs are very like not, I don't know if this is the w the right way to put this, but he said JoJo dogs are very like disease resistant.
01:38:35.540 --> 01:38:38.020
You know, they're very hardy animals versus a lot of blood.
01:38:38.500 --> 01:38:39.220
They are.
01:38:40.020 --> 01:38:40.980
They definitely are.
01:38:41.060 --> 01:38:45.140
Uh I do I do know that he told me he bred her back to Jojo Semen.
01:38:45.220 --> 01:38:47.060
Uh it's been so it's been a couple years ago.
01:38:47.220 --> 01:38:55.060
I don't know how long ago, but he bred her back to Jojo Seaman, and he said, uh, as far as I as far as I've gathered, those were machines.
01:38:55.300 --> 01:38:57.220
Yes, they they definitely were.
01:38:57.380 --> 01:39:02.260
Um that I think that dog uh Ted Davis had that red dog chili.
01:39:02.740 --> 01:39:07.140
I think she was out of that same case or Jojo Cross.
01:39:08.100 --> 01:39:08.660
Really?
01:39:08.900 --> 01:39:09.460
Yeah.
01:39:09.700 --> 01:39:11.940
Uh well now I ain't gonna lie to you.
01:39:12.100 --> 01:39:13.620
This is just my opinion.
01:39:13.860 --> 01:39:16.500
You tell your guys, just calm down.
01:39:16.820 --> 01:39:20.820
But but but she's an ugly motherfucker out here, this damn bitch.
01:39:21.140 --> 01:39:21.220
Lord.
01:39:22.020 --> 01:39:23.940
Most of them collision dogs are.
01:39:24.980 --> 01:39:26.900
Long, rough hired son of a bitch.
01:39:27.140 --> 01:39:29.300
You don't like that long, rough haired.
01:39:29.620 --> 01:39:33.460
No, but I but I tell you what I do like what I'm hoping to get.
01:39:33.620 --> 01:39:34.900
I like a broken coat.
01:39:35.060 --> 01:39:35.700
Yeah.
01:39:36.500 --> 01:39:41.060
And and my male is I call him slick hair.
01:39:41.700 --> 01:39:45.060
Now he may be what you consider a broken coat.
01:39:45.140 --> 01:39:47.060
The only rough on him is he got a little bit of beard.
01:39:47.140 --> 01:39:47.620
That's about it.
01:39:47.700 --> 01:39:48.740
Everything else is slick.
01:39:49.140 --> 01:39:53.220
Uh and he's got them old five tail, you know, feathers around his feet.
01:39:54.020 --> 01:40:02.500
But uh I plan to try to get a letter off of my mail and one of them bitches.
01:40:02.740 --> 01:40:06.660
Uh the bitch that comes from Croatia.
01:40:07.460 --> 01:40:11.940
James said that she was the best bitch they had over there at that time.
01:40:12.100 --> 01:40:15.220
And he bought her or whatever and then had her imported.
01:40:15.460 --> 01:40:20.260
But uh, you know, and a lot of people's gonna dog me.
01:40:20.980 --> 01:40:28.100
Now they're you know, none of my dogs are registered as far as me having paperwork.
01:40:28.420 --> 01:40:30.980
And to me, papers don't make the dog.
01:40:31.540 --> 01:40:32.820
No, they they don't.
01:40:33.060 --> 01:40:33.620
There's a lot of things.
01:40:33.780 --> 01:40:38.980
I'd say half of your dogs, I'd say half the dogs you hunt are gray dogs or unregistered dogs.
01:40:39.220 --> 01:40:40.740
Yeah, I mine are definitely.
01:40:40.820 --> 01:40:48.340
I I've got stacks of of uh of titles and registration papers and forms and puppy papers and all that.
01:40:48.420 --> 01:40:50.180
Uh literally binders full of them.
01:40:50.420 --> 01:40:52.020
I don't I don't register none of them.
01:40:52.820 --> 01:40:54.020
So very few.
01:40:55.300 --> 01:40:58.580
I'll I'll I can't remember this woman's name, okay?
01:40:58.740 --> 01:41:03.940
And when we get off the phone, I'm gonna text you because you may know this woman.
01:41:04.100 --> 01:41:05.380
She is from Alabama.
01:41:05.540 --> 01:41:07.220
This is where my mail comes from.
01:41:07.380 --> 01:41:08.340
She was the breeder.
01:41:08.660 --> 01:41:09.140
Yeah.
01:41:09.460 --> 01:41:13.620
And she she just didn't really want to tell me much about him.
01:41:14.180 --> 01:41:17.300
I don't know why, but nonetheless, this mail is registered.
01:41:17.540 --> 01:41:20.980
People I got him from, they they never got the papers.
01:41:21.140 --> 01:41:23.300
So they, you know, they whatever.
01:41:23.540 --> 01:41:29.540
Anyhow, she told me he was Serbian and Louisiana line.
01:41:30.100 --> 01:41:30.420
Okay.
01:41:32.900 --> 01:41:34.100
I don't have a fucking clue.
01:41:34.340 --> 01:41:38.180
Well, there's there's a couple of good lines that come out of Louisiana that I know.
01:41:38.340 --> 01:41:42.340
Uh, but like there's a lot of stuff that's happened in the last 10 years.
01:41:42.580 --> 01:41:54.900
Those dogs got very popular, and there's a lot of people that got them, a lot of people breeding them up, and and through that, you will have some good dogs, but you're generally gonna have dogs that are watered down.
01:41:55.460 --> 01:42:02.100
Uh, that's one reason why I kind of got out of the all the terrier trials and all that.
01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:09.140
Uh there's a lot of new people that were showing up, and there was a lot of watered down dogs, and nobody was saying nothing about it.
01:42:09.220 --> 01:42:10.100
They just letting it happen.
01:42:10.260 --> 01:42:12.580
I'm like, no, we can't have that shit.
01:42:12.660 --> 01:42:15.860
We got to have a standard and we got to uphold it.
01:42:16.020 --> 01:42:17.860
Oh, you ain't got to tell me I remember.
01:42:17.940 --> 01:42:19.620
You remember when all that happened with me?
01:42:19.940 --> 01:42:21.140
Oh, listen here.
01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:22.900
They will get you the a.
01:42:23.220 --> 01:42:25.220
It used to, we used to be strict.
01:42:25.380 --> 01:42:27.620
Tell tell them what all was going on.
01:42:28.500 --> 01:42:31.380
I I so I I had a bitch.
01:42:31.620 --> 01:42:41.220
Now, the bitch was not registered, but her dam and her sire was registered in the in the uh the Terrier Association clubs.
01:42:41.540 --> 01:42:46.420
And uh Oscar, the dog that I bred to, is a registered dog.
01:42:46.660 --> 01:42:49.300
Yeah, he's originally out of our stuff.
01:42:49.540 --> 01:42:50.580
Yeah, Dixie Land dog.
01:42:50.820 --> 01:42:52.180
Dixieland dog, yeah.
01:42:52.500 --> 01:42:57.460
And uh, you know, he's local, and I said, hell, you know, but I want to raise some puppies.
01:42:57.620 --> 01:43:04.100
Well, I bred and I and I had these puppies, and and I I honestly can't remember these guys' names.
01:43:04.180 --> 01:43:11.620
It's irrelevant at this point in my life, but there was one man in particular that I'm pretty sure he was from Texas.
01:43:11.860 --> 01:43:14.260
Yeah, I know exactly who it was.
01:43:14.580 --> 01:43:18.820
Uh, and I mean I'm gonna tell I'm gonna say what he said, but it is what it is.
01:43:19.140 --> 01:43:32.260
He was messaging me, he was gonna drive to my house and kill them, and buy them and kill them right in fucking front of me because I didn't deserve to have them dogs because I didn't test my fucking female.
01:43:32.660 --> 01:43:36.100
I called that son of bitch ever stupid motherfucker there was.
01:43:36.580 --> 01:43:39.540
I mean, how much more testing do I need?
01:43:39.620 --> 01:43:42.340
Like, I've one terrier fucking bays with this bitch.
01:43:42.820 --> 01:43:46.580
She catches every fucking corriter that she sees for me.
01:43:46.900 --> 01:43:47.140
Yep.
01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:50.020
Like, fuck you in your plastic goddamn pile, dude.
01:43:51.700 --> 01:44:02.100
I remember that shit because I I was out there and all of a sudden one guy comes over talking to me, and I think you called me, or you called Ted, or Ted called me, or something.
01:44:02.260 --> 01:44:04.580
I think Ted got in that shit too.
01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:06.980
No, I tell you who I called first.
01:44:07.060 --> 01:44:09.140
I'm pretty sure I called Corey first.
01:44:09.700 --> 01:44:10.020
Okay.
01:44:10.820 --> 01:44:17.620
Well, I anyway, what somebody called me and was telling me I was like, Well, I'm standing right here with right here with this guy, you know.
01:44:18.100 --> 01:44:23.620
And uh then all of a sudden I and I see him, he's all old fucking ears are red, you know.
01:44:23.780 --> 01:44:26.740
I said, uh, I said, man, what's going on?
01:44:27.540 --> 01:44:30.180
He starts telling me, he said, Do you know this dumb bitch here?
01:44:30.260 --> 01:44:32.340
I said, Who you talking about?
01:44:32.420 --> 01:44:33.380
And he got dog looking.
01:44:33.540 --> 01:44:35.140
I said, Yeah, I know who that is.
01:44:35.380 --> 01:44:41.460
He said, Well, he's breeding these damn dogs, and I said, Well, hell his dogs, you know, he'll whatever.
01:44:41.700 --> 01:44:43.140
Ain't got nothing to do with us.
01:44:43.460 --> 01:44:44.740
He was like, Well, they're not registered.
01:44:45.060 --> 01:44:47.220
I said, It don't have nothing to do with us.
01:44:47.540 --> 01:44:48.180
Period.
01:44:48.340 --> 01:44:53.380
Like it wasn't like you were saying, hey, I want to be a part of this.
01:44:54.900 --> 01:44:58.980
Yeah, no, it's like nobody said a word.
01:44:59.380 --> 01:45:02.820
And I couldn't understand why I was like, and dude, they got bent.
01:45:02.980 --> 01:45:09.780
He got told fuck, like you said, he said, I'm gonna go out there and buy, I'll buy all of them, and I'll shoot every damn one of them right in front of you.
01:45:09.940 --> 01:45:11.380
I told him, I said, what's gonna happen?
01:45:11.460 --> 01:45:17.220
You're gonna go out there in that little wire, somebody's gonna jump up there and beat shit out of you, or is gonna shoot you right on the doorsteps.
01:45:17.620 --> 01:45:20.660
I said, we don't do shit like that over in them hills, I promise you.
01:45:20.820 --> 01:45:24.980
You show up to another man's house, you fix to have something happen.
01:45:26.580 --> 01:45:32.820
And uh after that, like it literally everything just kind of, to me, it dogs just kind of broke down.
01:45:33.060 --> 01:45:42.260
There were a lot of guys, super good guys, really good dog men, and you could tell like one of them wouldn't show up for the next trial.
01:45:42.580 --> 01:45:45.940
Then then next trial come up, there'd be two of them that didn't show up.
01:45:46.180 --> 01:45:48.260
Next trial come up, there's three or four.
01:45:48.420 --> 01:45:51.940
And I knew I was like, well, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it.
01:45:52.100 --> 01:45:53.780
It just doesn't suit me.
01:45:54.020 --> 01:45:55.940
So I that's why I backed out of it.
01:45:56.180 --> 01:45:58.980
I like fans, they they they they're dwindling.
01:45:59.460 --> 01:46:00.260
Oh yeah.
01:46:01.220 --> 01:46:01.940
Yeah, a lot of them.
01:46:02.660 --> 01:46:11.140
But here's my theory on the on the whole uproar about me raising unregistered, untested terriers.
01:46:11.220 --> 01:46:11.780
You know what I mean?
01:46:13.380 --> 01:46:24.340
All right, so uh a man that gives me two of these females out here is probably my opinion.
01:46:24.740 --> 01:46:27.540
I'm not knocking nobody you know or anybody else listening.
01:46:27.700 --> 01:46:30.100
He's probably the king of terriers in the United States.
01:46:30.340 --> 01:46:32.180
I'd say he's he's there, you know.
01:46:32.260 --> 01:46:35.140
Well, he was the president at the club of the club at the time.
01:46:35.620 --> 01:46:37.540
Like he's the one that started it.
01:46:37.860 --> 01:46:40.900
And we and he knows my plans.
01:46:40.980 --> 01:46:43.780
My you know, he knows I want some puppies, you know what I mean?
01:46:43.860 --> 01:46:44.500
Yeah.
01:46:45.300 --> 01:46:50.500
He never once said, no, you can't do that, or he he didn't give a fuck.
01:46:50.900 --> 01:46:56.900
He wants to preserve the breed, and you can't keep a good line of dogs if you don't breed them.
01:46:57.380 --> 01:47:01.380
Now, you know, you was talking about watered down and washed up lines.
01:47:01.540 --> 01:47:02.100
Yeah.
01:47:02.580 --> 01:47:09.300
I can't tell you anything other than what I did about my red male, other than he's a pretty fucking hard dog, you know what I mean?
01:47:09.780 --> 01:47:18.180
But uh I I don't know I don't know what they'll be.
01:47:18.660 --> 01:47:24.180
I think it's fucking genetic in them to be wiry, fucking gamey little dogs, personally.
01:47:24.340 --> 01:47:24.580
Yeah.
01:47:24.900 --> 01:47:31.300
Uh but it's they're probably like any they're they're well they're not probably they're like any other breed.
01:47:31.940 --> 01:47:34.820
They're there's good and bad and all of them.
01:47:37.620 --> 01:47:38.420
Without a doubt.
01:47:42.500 --> 01:47:50.020
Experimental deal, because uh you're rolling a dice anytime you breed them, you know, to an extent.
01:47:50.740 --> 01:47:51.300
Oh yeah.
01:47:51.620 --> 01:47:52.500
Some form or fashion.
01:47:52.660 --> 01:48:08.820
No matter if you've got two proven lines that have been bred, you know, methodically for years and years, and somewhere in there something expressed itself, and you might have got the shittiest one that was ever born out of that line.
01:48:09.300 --> 01:48:16.340
You you might you might you might get shit and then you and then sometimes I I've seen it and I've had it happen.
01:48:16.580 --> 01:48:21.460
Accident crosses that you didn't want to happen or something, like just top-notch dog.
01:48:21.940 --> 01:48:22.660
Yes, sir.
01:48:23.620 --> 01:48:25.620
You know, and that's where a lot of people give it to you.
01:48:29.380 --> 01:48:32.420
Uh ain't nothing wrong with that.
01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:35.460
If that's your thing, hey, you like it, I love it.
01:48:35.700 --> 01:48:38.820
But don't I don't knock another man for what he's doing.
01:48:39.380 --> 01:48:39.860
That's his.
01:48:40.420 --> 01:48:46.420
One of my bread of dog that I will have eventually is a hide terrier.
01:48:46.820 --> 01:48:47.540
You have some.
01:48:47.700 --> 01:48:51.060
I've got a buddy that lives in Idaho, Roy.
01:48:51.220 --> 01:48:51.540
Yeah.
01:48:52.980 --> 01:48:54.020
He's got some.
01:48:54.180 --> 01:48:58.900
And I'm sure there's other people that's got them, but as far as personally, there ain't many that's got real ones.
01:48:59.380 --> 01:49:00.820
Roy, you and Roy.
01:49:00.980 --> 01:49:04.260
But that, and I'm not knocking them.
01:49:04.340 --> 01:49:05.460
I I mean I like them.
01:49:05.540 --> 01:49:06.500
I'm interested in them.
01:49:06.660 --> 01:49:07.860
But they're a fucking mutt.
01:49:08.340 --> 01:49:08.980
Well, yeah.
01:49:09.220 --> 01:49:11.460
They're a crop, they're they're generally a crossed-up mutt.
01:49:11.620 --> 01:49:14.900
They're uh they're Irendale and a bull terrier and a and a fucking jag.
01:49:15.300 --> 01:49:24.980
Well, that's what they originally started out, but with the popularity part, uh they started adding Praise of Canario, uh, Kane Corso.
01:49:25.540 --> 01:49:26.660
There's all kinds of shit.
01:49:26.740 --> 01:49:30.340
Spanish Alano, a lot of those overseas, yeah.
01:49:32.820 --> 01:49:38.580
They they you know, some of them look different too, because you know yours don't look nothing like Roy's.
01:49:38.740 --> 01:49:46.260
Yeah, well, some of mine do, because Roy's, I've got I've got a puppy out of Roy's, and I've got brothers quite like a lot of people.
01:49:46.340 --> 01:49:46.900
Well, I don't know.
01:49:47.940 --> 01:49:48.820
No, that's what I'm saying.
01:49:48.980 --> 01:49:51.780
Yeah, Grinch don't look nothing like that.
01:49:52.900 --> 01:50:11.060
And and I've got several more that are that look just like him, but like my whiskey dog is a litter mate to Roy's Adolf pup or adolf dog, and they look pretty similar, but at the same time, man, they're all over the place.
01:50:11.380 --> 01:50:15.620
You get some that are black and brindle, some are black, some rough coat, some smooth coat.
01:50:15.780 --> 01:50:17.460
They're kind of like the Jags stuff, you know.
01:50:17.540 --> 01:50:19.700
That's where that gets expressed a lot.
01:50:20.020 --> 01:50:25.220
But you, you know, I've just never seen none with a lot of color.
01:50:25.540 --> 01:50:34.500
And I don't feel like they should, you know, if you're doing it to a certain certain level, I feel like that's when I had one out on it to look like eight dollars.
01:50:34.740 --> 01:50:38.180
Yeah, he's he's about as good a looking dog as to me.
01:50:38.420 --> 01:50:39.780
He looks really good.
01:50:40.820 --> 01:50:42.500
I'd also got a crumor.
01:50:43.300 --> 01:50:43.940
Yeah.
01:50:44.740 --> 01:50:47.140
I've got one coming off of his uh Sunday bitch.
01:50:47.380 --> 01:50:48.340
Bloody Sunday, yeah.
01:50:48.420 --> 01:50:49.620
She's a good little dog.
01:50:50.020 --> 01:50:51.620
Yeah, I got one coming off of her.
01:50:52.340 --> 01:50:53.220
She does pretty good.
01:50:53.380 --> 01:51:10.020
We uh but now the as far as the hides go, they Jo Josh is the one that That got all those dogs imported and and and handled everything and spent a shit ton of money getting them to where guys like me and Roy could could enjoy them.
01:51:10.420 --> 01:51:16.180
But there's some other guys that you know, Josh uh he let a guy have one.
01:51:16.980 --> 01:51:19.700
Well, that guy couldn't keep the dog no more.
01:51:20.260 --> 01:51:22.740
Called Josh, Josh the man, I'll meet you, blah blah blah.
01:51:22.820 --> 01:51:26.180
And then the guy backed out on him, then he was like, Well, here you gotta buy it from me.
01:51:26.500 --> 01:51:27.940
Josh, what the fuck you mean?
01:51:28.020 --> 01:51:29.540
Like, I gave you the dog.
01:51:31.060 --> 01:51:31.860
You know what I'm saying?
01:51:31.940 --> 01:51:33.860
So you gotta deal with bullshit.
01:51:34.340 --> 01:51:40.980
And that's generally where people pick up on the whole, well, this is these dogs are going to shit because of this.
01:51:41.140 --> 01:51:42.500
It's because of people.
01:51:43.060 --> 01:51:43.380
Yeah.
01:51:43.620 --> 01:51:44.740
That's the problem.
01:51:44.980 --> 01:51:48.340
You got to pay attention to who you let get your dogs.
01:51:48.740 --> 01:51:53.700
Now, so like like you're talking about, the dog going to shit.
01:51:54.420 --> 01:51:57.220
Now, might be some haters on this.
01:51:57.540 --> 01:51:58.820
It is what it is.
01:51:59.300 --> 01:52:04.420
If if if more people would start taking them sorry when it was behind the shed, that's right.
01:52:05.060 --> 01:52:10.980
Instead of sending them off to whoever, you see the improvements of dogs in general.
01:52:11.060 --> 01:52:11.940
Not not not.
01:52:12.180 --> 01:52:14.980
I mean, it's the first dogs.
01:52:15.220 --> 01:52:16.260
Everything.
01:52:17.220 --> 01:52:20.740
And you know, you ever been to the Grand America?
01:52:20.980 --> 01:52:23.300
No, I I've I've never been to the Grand America.
01:52:23.380 --> 01:52:24.260
I need I want to go.
01:52:24.420 --> 01:52:26.580
That's the one in Orangeburg, South Carolina, ain't it?
01:52:26.900 --> 01:52:27.140
Yeah.
01:52:27.300 --> 01:52:34.420
Well, if you ever go there, you're gonna see you're gonna see 1,500 culls.
01:52:34.580 --> 01:52:35.220
Yep.
01:52:36.020 --> 01:52:38.500
Just solid trade dog.
01:52:39.380 --> 01:52:46.420
Now, I'm not gonna say you can't find a decent dog, but dogs like that, I mean, call me what you want to call me.
01:52:46.580 --> 01:52:53.140
Call me cruel, whatever, but why feed something, you know, my papa told me years ago, and I stuck with it.
01:52:53.380 --> 01:52:57.700
It does not cost no more to feed a goodness, it does a bad.
01:52:58.420 --> 01:52:59.940
Nope, not a bit.
01:53:00.180 --> 01:53:04.420
You know, you know, and that that's the problem, like you said, that's the problem we have.
01:53:04.740 --> 01:53:12.420
People get too soft about it, uh, and they don't want to do do the the the deal, you know.
01:53:12.580 --> 01:53:14.500
You you know sometimes you gotta cull.
01:53:14.820 --> 01:53:20.260
That's just like that's just like that's no different now, uh now a rooster man.
01:53:20.420 --> 01:53:20.740
Yep.
01:53:20.900 --> 01:53:22.660
They cull heavy.
01:53:26.340 --> 01:53:28.420
You know, they don't want no bullshit.
01:53:28.660 --> 01:53:29.540
That's exactly right.
01:53:29.780 --> 01:53:41.060
You don't see well, I'm not gonna say you don't see it, but you there are some there are some fucking chicken peddlers out there that'll just say, hell, I'll just keep them pen and I'll just sell them to fucking whoever, but see, I don't I can't do that.
01:53:41.460 --> 01:53:42.420
That's that bothers me.
01:53:42.660 --> 01:53:44.660
They want a dollar, they want a dollar.
01:53:44.900 --> 01:53:51.940
Listen, the best, the best you'll ever get, in my opinion, is money won't buy.
01:53:52.420 --> 01:53:54.660
Friendship is where it comes from.
01:53:55.060 --> 01:53:55.700
Yep.
01:53:56.580 --> 01:53:57.540
You know what I mean?
01:53:57.780 --> 01:53:58.900
Yes, sir, I do.
01:53:59.140 --> 01:54:08.420
Anybody, anybody can walk pull in the driveway and offer me$10,000 for that little bitty puppy out there, and I'd just tell him, well, you you ain't got enough money to buy that son of a bitch.
01:54:08.580 --> 01:54:14.980
He's not for sale, and it ain't because it ain't because of who give him to me or nothing.
01:54:15.060 --> 01:54:18.900
It's just because that's that's just you know, that's just the way things are.
01:54:21.220 --> 01:54:26.820
Like you were saying, the boy give that fella that dog and try to get it to bite that noise.
01:54:27.060 --> 01:54:28.260
Yeah, that's a bunch of bullshit.
01:54:28.420 --> 01:54:32.180
That like I said, that that's what gives it a bad name.
01:54:32.580 --> 01:54:44.340
And and that when when Josh first messaged me about high terriers, because I've, you know, did my own version and did it for years and years, I wouldn't even talk to him.
01:54:44.500 --> 01:54:48.420
I tell you, finally, you know, I was like, look, dude, I just don't I don't deal with people.
01:54:48.900 --> 01:55:01.940
And that's why, because you give somebody a good dog, and they either gonna screw it off, fuck it off, give it somebody, sell it, or breed it to everything and sell puppies for 200 fucking dollars.
01:55:02.260 --> 01:55:04.820
And, you know, I'm like, you can't do that.
01:55:04.900 --> 01:55:07.860
Well, Josh had to learn some hard lessons on his own.
01:55:08.100 --> 01:55:09.060
He started that shit.
01:55:09.220 --> 01:55:12.100
Well, whoever called, well, everybody's gotta fuck up.
01:55:12.180 --> 01:55:13.860
I mean, you gotta learn.
01:55:14.340 --> 01:55:18.180
And and whoever will call, he will trust him and say, okay, here you go.
01:55:18.420 --> 01:55:21.300
And now a lot of that come back to bite him in the ass.
01:55:21.540 --> 01:55:23.940
So now he's done got where he's real damn.
01:55:24.100 --> 01:55:26.020
Now you can't hardly get a dog from him.
01:55:26.180 --> 01:55:27.780
I said, Well, that's the way you need to be.
01:55:27.860 --> 01:55:33.140
If you want to keep your dog your bloodline right, there's the way it's supposed to be.
01:55:33.220 --> 01:55:36.500
I mean, there's dog men like that that I know, there's there's rooster men I know.
01:55:36.580 --> 01:55:41.380
I mean, I know I know I know several rooster men that you won't buy a feather.
01:55:41.780 --> 01:55:42.340
Yep.
01:55:42.820 --> 01:55:51.780
You know um you know, the the the dog world in general has changed.
01:55:52.900 --> 01:56:00.740
I I've seen it change in the past you know, short bit versus when it was back years ago.
01:56:00.980 --> 01:56:01.460
Yep.
01:56:02.020 --> 01:56:05.780
Uh and it and it's still it's still changing.
01:56:05.940 --> 01:56:23.220
I mean, whenever I first really got interested in hounds, a good cone dog, I mean now one you could take your house, down Indiana, Florida, wherever, and tree coon consistently as a fifteen hundred, two thousand dollar dog.
01:56:23.700 --> 01:56:23.940
Yeah.
01:56:24.100 --> 01:56:28.260
Now they're selling cone dogs for fifty fifty thousand to a hundred thousand dollars.
01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:30.580
Yeah, and that's it's really common.
01:56:30.900 --> 01:56:32.900
But but why, why, why?
01:56:33.060 --> 01:56:38.980
What makes that fifty thousand dollar dog worth more than, or what makes him better than my fifteen hundred dollar dog?
01:56:39.460 --> 01:56:40.980
Well, it's it's it's the people.
01:56:41.220 --> 01:56:41.860
I'm gonna tell you why.
01:56:43.860 --> 01:56:45.380
Yep, okay, so money.
01:56:45.700 --> 01:56:50.820
So I'm I'm gonna make him plot men, I'm gonna give him plotmen something to think about right here.
01:56:53.140 --> 01:56:58.500
There's been one, two, there's been two plot dogs in the world hunt.
01:56:58.740 --> 01:56:59.700
Two that I know of.
01:56:59.860 --> 01:57:02.900
Maybe and the hunt now, not the show, not the bench show.
01:57:03.060 --> 01:57:06.900
The hunt, there's been two, one in the PKC and one UKC.
01:57:07.060 --> 01:57:13.780
One in the UKC was uh Kansas Heat, Kansas CD Sisland Heat or something shit.
01:57:14.260 --> 01:57:20.580
All right, and then one on the PKC was uh R and R Buckeye Sarge or something like that.
01:57:20.820 --> 01:57:29.220
But anyhow, so there's a lot of big, big, big time cone hunters with a lot of big big time money men behind them.
01:57:30.820 --> 01:57:31.380
Alright.
01:57:31.700 --> 01:57:37.540
They hear about they hear they hear that they hear that Joey Wright's got a got a cone dog.
01:57:38.660 --> 01:57:42.980
Well, they want to come watch this dog, and this dog be a walker dog.
01:57:43.780 --> 01:57:44.420
Alright.
01:57:44.740 --> 01:57:57.060
Now all these big you look on Facebook, look on Facebook, and all these big time hunts, ninety percent of the cast, what are they?
01:57:57.860 --> 01:57:58.500
Walker.
01:57:59.140 --> 01:58:00.020
Walker dog.
01:58:00.500 --> 01:58:00.980
Alright.
01:58:01.220 --> 01:58:05.060
Now, that is a monkey see monkey do thing.
01:58:05.140 --> 01:58:06.500
That's just follow the leader.
01:58:06.660 --> 01:58:09.540
They see all these big timers winning.
01:58:09.860 --> 01:58:14.980
This is just my opinion, all these big timers winning, all right, with walker dogs.
01:58:15.060 --> 01:58:17.140
So they think they've got to have a walker dog.
01:58:17.540 --> 01:58:19.780
All right, plot men, here you go.
01:58:20.260 --> 01:58:35.860
If some of them big timers that's currently winning trucks and hundred thousand dollar hunts, if any of them men was to go to a hunt with a damn plot and win one of them big hunts with a plot dog, every fucking body wants plot.
01:58:36.340 --> 01:58:38.020
I've said that for years.
01:58:38.180 --> 01:58:44.020
If one of them big timers would get a plot, push it like they do them walker dogs, everybody wants a plot.
01:58:44.180 --> 01:58:46.020
Now I'm not knocking walker dogs.
01:58:46.900 --> 01:58:48.580
No, it's just it's a fact, though.
01:58:48.660 --> 01:58:55.060
I mean, I I'm not from the coon hunting world by no means, but I know what wins competitions.
01:58:55.460 --> 01:59:05.620
And when you got, you know, 90 out of a hundred dogs or walker dogs, the chances of winning with a walker dog are pretty damn high.
01:59:05.940 --> 01:59:11.700
Well, here's some here's some statistics, or however you say that fucking word.
01:59:14.020 --> 01:59:19.220
You won't go to blue tick days and win it with a walker.
01:59:19.380 --> 01:59:24.740
Just like a blue tick or a black tan or whatever will not win southeastern tanwalker days.
01:59:26.500 --> 01:59:27.380
Does that make sense?
01:59:27.620 --> 01:59:28.500
Oh, yeah.
01:59:29.940 --> 01:59:30.660
Without a doubt.
01:59:31.700 --> 01:59:38.180
The the off-breed, the the breeds, the the breed sanctioned event, that breed is gonna win that hunt.
01:59:38.340 --> 01:59:44.020
Now, you can win high-scoring uh walker or whatever, all right.
01:59:44.180 --> 01:59:48.420
So, an old man that I used to fool around with, he gives me this trophy.
01:59:48.500 --> 01:59:53.620
And the only reason he gives me this trophy that I'm looking at right here is because he knew that I was an Englishman.
01:59:53.780 --> 01:59:55.620
Now, this man was a plot man.
01:59:55.860 --> 02:00:00.980
He was president of the NPHA for several years, the VP, etc.
02:00:01.620 --> 02:00:02.180
Alright?
02:00:02.420 --> 02:00:08.260
This is from the 43rd annual 1996 plot days.
02:00:08.980 --> 02:00:09.540
Alright.
02:00:09.860 --> 02:00:14.340
He got high-scoring English dogs at plot days.
02:00:14.500 --> 02:00:14.980
All right.
02:00:15.140 --> 02:00:17.300
You're not gonna win it, you won't, they won't win it.
02:00:17.380 --> 02:00:21.780
You you can't take a walker dog to redbone days and win it, or nothing like that.
02:00:22.980 --> 02:00:24.900
So just it's politics.
02:00:24.980 --> 02:00:26.420
That's what that is, is politics.
02:00:26.660 --> 02:00:27.220
Yeah.
02:00:27.860 --> 02:00:30.260
And that, like I said, that that goes back to what?
02:00:30.500 --> 02:00:31.220
Money.
02:00:31.460 --> 02:00:31.780
Yep.
02:00:32.180 --> 02:00:33.620
That goes back to people.
02:00:33.940 --> 02:00:36.980
That's what's that's the hindrance on it.
02:00:37.140 --> 02:00:38.580
And that and that's just a fact.
02:00:38.660 --> 02:00:47.940
You know, either you get, like you said, if you get somebody with a good plot, and I and now we're just using this, like it could be a blue tick, it could be a red tick, it'd be any of it.
02:00:48.340 --> 02:00:52.100
But you gotta have something worth pushing first.
02:00:52.340 --> 02:00:57.540
And then if you pushed it, like you said, if you pushed it hard, like and it could win.
02:00:58.740 --> 02:01:00.900
A few big hunts like that, dude.
02:01:00.980 --> 02:01:05.300
Like I said, it'd be a plot mark, it would skyrocket.
02:01:05.540 --> 02:01:06.660
It'd go through the roof.
02:01:06.820 --> 02:01:11.540
Oh, uh Roel Cabreja, he's got a plot dip named Smoke.
02:01:11.780 --> 02:01:14.500
Is that is that the is that the Cuban or whatever?
02:01:14.660 --> 02:01:15.700
Yes, dude.
02:01:15.940 --> 02:01:17.540
I've talked to him several times.
02:01:17.700 --> 02:01:19.860
That damn that dog is a coon dog.
02:01:20.260 --> 02:01:22.420
Like, I mean, she will get it.
02:01:22.740 --> 02:01:26.020
Uh he's a lighter-colored dog, yeah.
02:01:26.420 --> 02:01:27.380
Yeah, yeah.
02:01:27.780 --> 02:01:33.700
And like you, like he literally was running a hog and fell tree.
02:01:33.860 --> 02:01:37.540
So we go in there and she's standing on tree with the meat.
02:01:38.420 --> 02:01:39.460
Fuck the hog.
02:01:39.620 --> 02:01:40.900
It's tree to coon.
02:01:41.140 --> 02:01:42.260
He got upset at first.
02:01:42.340 --> 02:01:44.100
I said, bro, that's a coon dog.
02:01:44.260 --> 02:01:45.460
Like, I wouldn't even put that.
02:01:45.540 --> 02:01:48.500
So I wouldn't, like you were talking about with your dog earlier.
02:01:48.740 --> 02:01:51.300
Like he would you couldn't pour him on a damn hog.
02:01:51.540 --> 02:01:52.420
Same thing with this one.
02:01:52.500 --> 02:01:54.100
This this son bitch is a coon dog.
02:01:54.980 --> 02:01:55.620
Yeah.
02:01:56.500 --> 02:02:08.100
Yeah, and and now don't get me wrong, you know, talking back in the I mean, let's let's go back to the 70s and 80s.
02:02:09.540 --> 02:02:13.620
There was, you know, back that that was the PCA.
02:02:14.020 --> 02:02:15.540
That's before PKC.
02:02:15.620 --> 02:02:19.140
That was the PCA, traditional cone hunters associated.
02:02:20.660 --> 02:02:24.020
Uh there was a lot of walker dogs.
02:02:24.100 --> 02:02:26.580
I mean, walker dogs is predominantly in the cone hunters.
02:02:28.100 --> 02:02:34.100
But you've seen a lot more people pushing off-colored breeze than you do now.
02:02:34.260 --> 02:02:39.540
Now, you still do have your diehard red zone man or blue tick man or hell.
02:02:39.780 --> 02:02:43.380
You even have, you know, you've got some people that are diehard leopard helm men.
02:02:44.260 --> 02:02:47.940
But I I'll I'll say it till I die.
02:02:48.020 --> 02:03:07.860
If if people like Scott Engle or John Strickland or any of them big timers that's won everything, if they had a hole of a plot or uh, you know, something like that, uh an off-colored dog and win big with it, plots or whatever that color was with skyrocket.
02:03:08.180 --> 02:03:10.260
You you look on Facebook, all right?
02:03:10.420 --> 02:03:11.380
Oh yeah, I believe.
02:03:12.100 --> 02:03:19.620
Look on Facebook and you'll see them super you'll see, for instance, you'll see a litter of super steak walker puppies for sale, right?
02:03:20.420 --> 02:03:21.780
$1,200 a puppy.
02:03:21.940 --> 02:03:22.420
$1,200.
02:03:22.740 --> 02:03:23.140
Yep.
02:03:25.780 --> 02:03:36.100
I how many times do you see plots of black and tans or or uh blue ticks selling for twelve and fifteen hundred dollars a puppy?
02:03:37.140 --> 02:03:39.620
Well you're not.
02:03:39.860 --> 02:03:41.700
You don't you don't much.
02:03:41.860 --> 02:03:42.180
No.
02:03:42.980 --> 02:03:48.180
But I've got one more topic I want to touch and then I'm done unless you want to go on.
02:03:48.420 --> 02:03:49.220
No, go ahead.
02:03:49.380 --> 02:03:50.740
See, just let's do it.
02:03:50.980 --> 02:03:53.860
Because we've got a couple of hours in on this one.
02:03:54.260 --> 02:04:01.700
I made a video uh and I posted it a couple of weeks ago.
02:04:01.860 --> 02:04:03.860
You may have seen it, I'm sure you did.
02:04:04.820 --> 02:04:17.540
I got a lot of positive feedback on it, but the world we live in is not the world we want to live in, if that makes sense.
02:04:17.860 --> 02:04:31.380
The passions that we have for our dogs and you know, roasters and all that kind of stuff, you know, as bad as I don't want to say it, that's all coming to a head.
02:04:31.700 --> 02:04:33.700
And one day it won't be there.
02:04:34.260 --> 02:04:36.260
One day we won't be able to fucking do it legally.
02:04:36.340 --> 02:04:38.260
We'll have to we'll have to be rogues.
02:04:40.580 --> 02:04:42.100
That's that's just my opinion.
02:04:42.180 --> 02:04:50.500
I mean, look what they're doing to you know, that big deal in South Carolina, and you know, like they're trying to take our they're trying to take our rights away by their dogs.
02:04:50.580 --> 02:04:52.100
They're just they're trying to.
02:04:55.620 --> 02:05:01.540
All you people in all these countries and everything, well, I don't guess other countries matter, but in the United States.
02:05:03.460 --> 02:05:10.420
If you love what you do with your dogs, whether you hog hunt, coral hunt, run deer dogs, or whatever.
02:05:11.540 --> 02:05:19.780
If you love what you do, you need to think about things before you host things.
02:05:20.580 --> 02:05:23.700
Now I'm not bashing nobody, I'm not pointing fingers or anything.
02:05:23.780 --> 02:05:26.580
Hell, and if I see a video, I'll hell, I'll watch it.
02:05:26.740 --> 02:05:28.580
Not saying I don't like it.
02:05:28.900 --> 02:05:38.500
But dog men and rooster men, we don't need no more fucking fuel on them fires.
02:05:38.580 --> 02:05:39.940
We've got enough fires.
02:05:40.180 --> 02:05:40.980
That's right.
02:05:41.460 --> 02:05:58.500
I see that stuff all the time, Joy, and I'm thinking, dude, I literally seen you 30 minutes ago put a post bitching about like they're trying to take this away or whatever, and then you put a video of of fucking dogs stretching a barret.
02:05:58.820 --> 02:06:00.660
Yep, tearing it to pieces.
02:06:00.900 --> 02:06:04.740
Not just not just a little catch, but like just fucking maulin' it.
02:06:05.380 --> 02:06:07.700
Yeah, yeah, I mean yanking on that something.
02:06:08.100 --> 02:06:13.060
So, you know, again, I I like rough dogs, you know.
02:06:13.540 --> 02:06:16.660
But there's a time and place stuff like that.
02:06:16.740 --> 02:06:19.300
And again, I'm not bashing nobody, I'm not getting on to nobody.
02:06:19.380 --> 02:06:20.500
Hey, it's your it's you.
02:06:20.740 --> 02:06:24.180
You know, when they get when they take this shit away, don't get mad at everybody, get mad at your son.
02:06:25.780 --> 02:06:34.660
But I I man, I'm telling you, social media is gonna be the down, it's gonna be, it's gonna be the reason a lot of shit changes.
02:06:34.900 --> 02:06:35.780
A lot of shit.
02:06:36.020 --> 02:06:40.900
Because when you when you post something, they're watching.
02:06:41.700 --> 02:06:42.180
Exactly.
02:06:43.940 --> 02:06:46.020
That we've done we posted from the bay pen.
02:06:46.420 --> 02:06:50.100
There's people that don't even know what the fuck a bay pen is that have seen that video.
02:06:51.620 --> 02:06:56.020
How many people were there there was there were several of them they're like, are those dogs okay?
02:06:56.180 --> 02:06:58.740
They're steadily barking, and y'all ain't even paying attention.
02:06:58.900 --> 02:07:01.300
You're like, well, yeah, yeah, you know.
02:07:02.020 --> 02:07:04.500
We don't need no fuel at all.
02:07:04.660 --> 02:07:07.380
No, you know, I see it all the time on Facebook.
02:07:07.700 --> 02:07:19.300
People will be they'll be standing in a pit with bloody roosters holding a trophy, holding the number one sign up, and another man standing beside them holding however much money.
02:07:19.460 --> 02:07:21.060
We got in on the day, boys.
02:07:21.220 --> 02:07:22.020
Five straight.
02:07:22.340 --> 02:07:25.540
Y'all are some stupid motherfuckers posting shit like that.
02:07:25.700 --> 02:07:26.340
Yeah.
02:07:27.380 --> 02:07:31.140
Like, why don't you just call them and tell them where you're having the fucking shit at?
02:07:31.380 --> 02:07:32.020
Yeah.
02:07:32.580 --> 02:07:33.380
Ain't no doubt.
02:07:33.620 --> 02:07:34.260
That'd be like that.
02:07:34.340 --> 02:07:39.300
That'd be like that'd be like me going down and telling telling the police where my fucking goat dealer lives.
02:07:39.460 --> 02:07:43.220
Yeah, well, and that's and I'm not bashing nobody.
02:07:43.460 --> 02:07:48.340
Well, no, but it's the overall outlook on it, you know.
02:07:48.420 --> 02:07:56.020
It's like, and I'm and I've been guilty of putting up videos that are rough, especially years ago, especially years ago.
02:07:56.260 --> 02:08:02.100
I was younger, and you know, I was like, well, that's just how it is, you know.
02:08:02.260 --> 02:08:06.260
And and Dean Ross, he makes a good point of it too.
02:08:06.500 --> 02:08:17.460
He's like, well, if we don't put videos up that show what happens, then we're letting them, you know, they're basically taking our rights away from us doing that.
02:08:17.620 --> 02:08:19.540
I was like, well, I see that.
02:08:19.700 --> 02:08:21.700
So there's got to be a good medium.
02:08:21.940 --> 02:08:24.740
There's got to be a way that you can do it tastefully.
02:08:24.980 --> 02:08:26.420
And that's what I try to do.
02:08:26.580 --> 02:08:30.020
I if there's any blood on it, I put it in black and white.
02:08:30.660 --> 02:08:32.420
I try not to show anything rough.
02:08:32.500 --> 02:08:41.940
And I'm sure there's still times where, to the untrained eye, if you will, they're gonna see it and they're gonna be like, oh my God, there's a dead animal.
02:08:42.180 --> 02:08:45.540
Well, that's just they're cruel and all that, you know.
02:08:45.620 --> 02:08:47.300
But I've been caught everything in the book.
02:08:48.580 --> 02:08:54.100
Here's my thought on the the posting of the videos, okay?
02:08:54.980 --> 02:09:09.540
Again, I I I have this one fella on Facebook, and he is today he'll be bitching about the laws in the legislator, and tomorrow he's posting a fucking video of three fucking hounds stretching a 60-pound cub.
02:09:09.780 --> 02:09:10.500
Damn.
02:09:11.140 --> 02:09:11.780
All right.
02:09:12.340 --> 02:09:12.820
All right.
02:09:12.980 --> 02:09:21.220
In my opinion, you may you may not agree with my opinion right here, but in my opinion, people post that shit for their fucking ego.
02:09:21.460 --> 02:09:22.100
Yeah.
02:09:22.740 --> 02:09:28.260
Now, that that video and that ego ain't gonna make what you're feeding any fucking better.
02:09:28.580 --> 02:09:29.940
Fuck what your friends think.
02:09:30.100 --> 02:09:31.940
If they don't like what you got, then fuck them.
02:09:32.100 --> 02:09:34.260
You know, you don't that's why people post shit.
02:09:34.340 --> 02:09:35.700
That's why I think people post shit.
02:09:35.780 --> 02:09:36.340
Look what I've got.
02:09:36.420 --> 02:09:38.260
Look at here what I can do with mine, you know.
02:09:38.420 --> 02:09:38.740
Yep.
02:09:39.300 --> 02:09:39.940
That's just me.
02:09:40.020 --> 02:10:03.300
That's it's it it's like it builds their fucking ego and they they they I I mean, I hate to say it, but most people most people a lot of the younger generation, more or less, but a lot of people they just don't have the common sense to not not host shit like that.
02:10:04.180 --> 02:10:07.940
Everywhere you go in the country, somebody's got their fucking camera out.
02:10:08.660 --> 02:10:09.620
Oh, everywhere.
02:10:10.500 --> 02:10:15.220
Yes, and I mean it's it just get we don't need no more fuel.
02:10:15.460 --> 02:10:17.300
We don't need no more fuel.
02:10:18.420 --> 02:10:30.420
I would I would say and this is a stretch, ten years dog hunting would be not what it is today in ten years.
02:10:30.660 --> 02:10:32.900
If if we're lucky to have it at all.
02:10:33.780 --> 02:10:39.940
You know, but at the same time, if I've got a fucking dog, and I I'll turn it loose on something, tough.
02:10:40.580 --> 02:10:47.940
But now I have seen where in the in the past ten years, I've seen, like you said, I've seen a lot of bat the downside.
02:10:48.180 --> 02:10:53.620
But past ten years I have seen the good side, and and there's an upswing to it.
02:10:53.700 --> 02:11:00.580
Like, especially like with the rougher stuff with the dogs, the bear hunting and the hog hunting, uh, the coyote dogs.
02:11:02.340 --> 02:11:11.460
The other night, there's a guy posted he had Chaquillo Neal, he had Shaq out there hunting, thermal hunting and stuff, you know.
02:11:11.620 --> 02:11:12.660
That's pretty cool.
02:11:12.900 --> 02:11:15.220
You got big names in it and they're supporting it.
02:11:15.380 --> 02:11:17.380
So they go out and experience it firsthand.
02:11:17.540 --> 02:11:20.340
They're like, oh, well, it ain't what they make it out to be.
02:11:20.580 --> 02:11:21.940
So that's that's good.
02:11:22.180 --> 02:11:28.260
And then uh South Georgia Hog Dog and Elijah Tyler and him, he he took Jake Paul hunting.
02:11:29.940 --> 02:11:33.140
You know, that's one of the biggest names in the world.
02:11:33.780 --> 02:11:34.420
Yeah.
02:11:34.740 --> 02:11:38.900
And so with a positive outlook on it.
02:11:40.100 --> 02:11:51.860
So if we have 1,000 positive moments, it will still barely erase one negative moment.
02:11:52.260 --> 02:11:52.740
Absolutely.
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If it even erases it, you know what I mean?
02:11:56.180 --> 02:12:10.740
In my opinion, my opinion, in my opinion, now we're not, I'm I'm not gonna start or get in on the on the on the politics side of things, but in my opinion, what I'm about to say is not Democrat or Republican.
02:12:10.820 --> 02:12:12.660
This is just a statement.
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Tree huggers, and that's just what I call them, yuppies or whatever the fuck you're gonna call them.
02:12:17.620 --> 02:12:24.100
Those kind of people, that's why, and how laws are changed or made or whatever.
02:12:25.220 --> 02:12:27.460
That's that's the way I've always seen it.
02:12:27.540 --> 02:12:34.340
You know, they they don't like shit, so they gonna go bitch and make these fucking rampages and they stick together.
02:12:35.940 --> 02:12:36.260
Yes.
02:12:36.900 --> 02:12:44.340
They're not arguing with each other who's whose dog whose dog is pretty, whose dog done this or whose dog done that.
02:12:44.420 --> 02:12:47.620
They're just worried about getting us.
02:12:48.420 --> 02:12:48.900
Yeah.
02:12:49.140 --> 02:12:50.980
So here here's an example.
02:12:51.140 --> 02:12:52.580
Here's an example.
02:12:53.700 --> 02:13:01.780
Bear hunting with hounds in the mountains of North Carolina has been around since I I mean, long time ago.
02:13:01.860 --> 02:13:02.740
You know what I mean?
02:13:03.380 --> 02:13:03.780
All right.
02:13:03.860 --> 02:13:06.500
It's been like a heritage here in these mountains.
02:13:06.740 --> 02:13:15.940
And then you'll have all these fuckers come up here from out of town and then they'll buy uh 50 or 100 acres or whatever, 20 acres or whatever.
02:13:16.180 --> 02:13:16.500
Right.
02:13:16.740 --> 02:13:20.340
When you turn that dog loose, you turned him loose.
02:13:20.580 --> 02:13:24.980
I I my dog can't fucking read, and I know yours can't read because you're from Alabama.
02:13:25.140 --> 02:13:25.620
That's right.
02:13:26.740 --> 02:13:31.940
Uh they they try to act like they run the fucking place.
02:13:32.180 --> 02:13:37.380
And they don't want bear dogs there, but they they bitch about the bears getting in their trash can.
02:13:37.780 --> 02:13:38.180
Oh yeah.
02:13:38.340 --> 02:13:39.300
You know what I mean?
02:13:39.620 --> 02:13:42.820
They're they think that they don't want you there hunting them.
02:13:42.900 --> 02:13:44.180
We're accrual to the dogs.
02:13:44.340 --> 02:13:44.580
Yeah.
02:13:44.740 --> 02:13:46.500
And all yeah.
02:13:46.740 --> 02:13:49.140
But they don't they don't like the bears getting in the trash can.
02:13:49.460 --> 02:13:50.180
What can we do about them?
02:13:50.340 --> 02:13:50.420
Yeah.
02:13:50.580 --> 02:13:53.300
Well, I mean, you you you can't say shoe fly don't bother me.
02:13:53.380 --> 02:13:54.020
It's a fucking bite.
02:13:54.340 --> 02:13:54.900
It's a bear, yeah.
02:13:57.540 --> 02:14:01.460
And that's the thing, like you said, they uh most of them live in a fairy tale world.
02:14:01.700 --> 02:14:10.420
They really think that, you know, oh well the well the game, we'll call it the DNR or the game board, and he'll come out and and he'll shoe that bear away.
02:14:10.580 --> 02:14:10.820
Yeah.
02:14:15.060 --> 02:14:16.820
Yeah, they're the morning my opinion.
02:14:16.900 --> 02:14:18.100
Either one in my opinion.
02:14:18.260 --> 02:14:21.780
They don't give a fuck about the rights or or their or the homeowner's rights.
02:14:22.020 --> 02:14:23.540
It just depends on the day.
02:14:23.940 --> 02:14:28.340
You know, like whatever the fuck they do, and you know, I have seen some good ones.
02:14:28.580 --> 02:14:33.620
Uh I've seen a lot of them that it's they're on a power trip, feed their ego.
02:14:34.420 --> 02:14:34.820
Oh, yeah.
02:14:35.060 --> 02:14:44.740
You know, that's no reason to have that job, but at the same time, it's like and and I know it feels a lot of times it feels like, you know, why even fucking bother?
02:14:44.820 --> 02:14:47.220
Because like, how how are we gonna do anything?
02:14:48.900 --> 02:14:55.620
The the whole thing about being united and having these dog hunters associations and things like that, that's how you do it.
02:14:55.780 --> 02:14:57.060
And you have to support it.
02:14:57.140 --> 02:15:02.180
Did you not see how good they all showed up out there it was in South Carolina?
02:15:02.580 --> 02:15:08.580
Yeah, you know, and also Florida last year did that and they got their bear hunting rights back.
02:15:09.300 --> 02:15:10.260
Yeah, yeah.
02:15:10.420 --> 02:15:14.820
You remember you meant all that shit that was going around about the bear commander kennels?
02:15:15.220 --> 02:15:15.860
Yeah.
02:15:16.580 --> 02:15:20.740
Oh, he was posting some, I'm not gonna lie, he posted some awesome motherfucking videos.
02:15:20.820 --> 02:15:21.780
I mean, they was awesome.
02:15:21.940 --> 02:15:25.620
Two thumbs up motherfucker, but don't post them on Facebook because you got your ass in trouble.
02:15:25.700 --> 02:15:26.580
But yeah, no shit.
02:15:26.820 --> 02:15:27.620
That's shit like that.
02:15:29.300 --> 02:15:31.060
That's the shit I'm talking about.
02:15:31.300 --> 02:15:35.540
You know, and going back to these fucking yuppies that move up here.
02:15:35.700 --> 02:15:43.140
Yeah, we've got some million dollar fucking places up here, like, you know, like rich high-end people that live up in these mountains.
02:15:44.100 --> 02:15:46.020
You know, they don't want hunting.
02:15:46.340 --> 02:15:48.900
You move to the motherfucking woods, what you expect?
02:15:49.140 --> 02:15:51.460
Yeah, that's the part that that I don't know.
02:15:51.540 --> 02:15:53.060
It just doesn't sit well with me.
02:15:53.220 --> 02:16:12.260
Like if I if I move somewhere, say if I move to Florida down there on the coast, or if I say if I move to fucking downtown Miami, I am not gonna get mad because I can't keep my game roosters and my game dogs and my fucking hound dogs and all this in my front yard with a with a broken down truck.
02:16:12.580 --> 02:16:16.820
No, I'm gonna stay in Alabama where that's how I want to live.
02:16:17.620 --> 02:16:18.100
Yep.
02:16:18.260 --> 02:16:24.500
You know, if I want to live another way or if I go somewhere else and I I'm gonna I have to adapt to their society.
02:16:25.220 --> 02:16:25.540
Right.
02:16:25.780 --> 02:16:36.899
That that's and you know, just like me, when I've went when I've gone places, per se, like I've been to Miami, and now I had I I ain't gonna lie, I had fucking fun down there.
02:16:37.059 --> 02:16:41.460
We won't talk about that right now, but I don't fit in down there.
02:16:41.620 --> 02:16:42.340
You know what I mean?
02:16:42.500 --> 02:16:43.219
Yes, sir.
02:16:43.860 --> 02:16:44.420
Well, sure.
02:16:44.819 --> 02:16:56.979
And and and and neither would my lifestyle, you know, per se, because you know, uh I I've said I've had people call the wild, you know, dogs barking and shit.
02:16:57.139 --> 02:16:59.299
Well, you live in the fucking country.
02:17:00.500 --> 02:17:05.139
You I I I just shit like that don't don't ride butt with me, you know.
02:17:05.379 --> 02:17:14.420
People want to buy and then build a house in the woods in the country and then bitch about fucking, you know, donkeys braying or whatever.
02:17:14.579 --> 02:17:15.299
It's a farm.
02:17:15.379 --> 02:17:20.819
Yeah, you're gonna see shit fucking, you're gonna see dogs, you know, you're gonna hear them, you're gonna smell shit.
02:17:21.139 --> 02:17:23.299
You don't like it, stay in Beverly Hills.
02:17:23.459 --> 02:17:25.139
Yep, stay where the hell you at.
02:17:25.219 --> 02:17:26.579
Just don't come over fucking with us.
02:17:26.739 --> 02:17:27.059
Yeah.
02:17:27.619 --> 02:17:37.779
But I mean, I'm not against them moving and building houses or whatever, you know, it helps the economy, but at the same time, you know Well, you have to be accepting to where you're going, you know, of the surroundings.
02:17:38.019 --> 02:17:40.259
You're you're you're coming into our environment.
02:17:41.699 --> 02:17:49.299
You know, it's just like it's just like if I was to come down to you, your place, I'm not used to how you do things.
02:17:49.859 --> 02:17:50.179
That's right.
02:17:50.419 --> 02:17:53.699
So I have to I have to adapt to the way you do things.
02:17:53.939 --> 02:17:59.219
Just like if you come up here, you're well, I ain't worried about your fucking house coming up here.
02:17:59.619 --> 02:18:05.299
But if you come up here it's just you have to adapt.
02:18:05.779 --> 02:18:10.499
And a lot of these motherfuckers they don't want to adapt with us.
02:18:10.979 --> 02:18:12.339
We've fucking been here adapted.
02:18:13.059 --> 02:18:22.579
Yeah, and that and so it would be the equivalent would be us moving to the city and running dogs in the city.
02:18:24.019 --> 02:18:24.499
You know.
02:18:26.899 --> 02:18:27.539
You know what I'm saying?
02:18:27.619 --> 02:18:28.739
We can't do that.
02:18:30.019 --> 02:18:33.539
Because, you know, they're they said, well, there's laws and regulations, all that.
02:18:33.619 --> 02:18:34.819
Yeah, I get that.
02:18:35.299 --> 02:18:40.339
But at the same time, we have heritage and history.
02:18:41.619 --> 02:18:48.579
And we also have our our our God-given rights that are here, and this is a we're supposed to be in a free country.
02:18:49.459 --> 02:18:52.259
And if I have my area, that's what I'm saying.
02:18:52.339 --> 02:18:58.499
If we got 40,000 acres here and everybody's on board, you know, Mr.
02:18:58.659 --> 02:19:02.099
So-and-so and Miss So-and-so over here, they don't care if your dogs come through.
02:19:02.179 --> 02:19:05.139
Hell, they'll get out and listen to a good race, sit on the porch.
02:19:05.539 --> 02:19:11.859
If it don't bother them and they've lived there their whole lives, then why the fuck should it bother you because you just moved here this week?
02:19:13.219 --> 02:19:16.739
I'll tell you a story based on that right there in a second.
02:19:17.299 --> 02:19:22.179
Uh I used to cone hunt right down the hill here.
02:19:22.979 --> 02:19:25.619
And I cone hunted this one spot religiously.
02:19:25.699 --> 02:19:28.819
I called it the dunk because it was literally right behind the dump.
02:19:30.099 --> 02:19:36.419
Uh no, I did not have permission to hunt that land.
02:19:37.299 --> 02:19:40.099
But I hunted it all my life.
02:19:40.259 --> 02:19:41.139
You know what I mean?
02:19:43.139 --> 02:19:46.259
The land belongs to Western Carolina University.
02:19:47.219 --> 02:19:49.779
I don't give a fuck if it belonged to fucking Jimmy Carter.
02:19:49.859 --> 02:19:51.859
He got game on it, I'm gonna hunt it.
02:19:53.059 --> 02:19:58.259
Well, I wasn't bothered nothing, and I, you know, for years I never had no problems.
02:20:00.499 --> 02:20:10.179
And the dump like right here, and literally twenty five or thirty yards up on the hill, is the fire department, the television fire department.
02:20:13.059 --> 02:20:20.499
I I'd always noticed, you know, when I was kind of going to a tree or coming back from a tree, I'd always noticed a fucking car sitting.
02:20:21.939 --> 02:20:23.939
I but I never I never paid no attention.
02:20:24.019 --> 02:20:28.179
I figured it was something I figured it was somebody up there doing whatever.
02:20:29.619 --> 02:20:41.699
But one night I pulled up and uh my dogs happen they hadn't sat down and treated yet, but they was moving the track.
02:20:41.779 --> 02:20:43.539
It was actually that black and white dog.
02:20:44.099 --> 02:20:48.419
And uh it was uh Western Carolina cops.
02:20:49.299 --> 02:20:50.739
I'm thinking, oh fuck.
02:20:50.899 --> 02:20:53.379
My dumb ass just pulled in by the police.
02:20:53.619 --> 02:20:54.739
What the fuck?
02:20:55.699 --> 02:21:00.019
That old man said, Son, you know you ain't supposed to be a hunt nobody.
02:21:00.179 --> 02:21:04.019
That's that's like school property or however bad word it is, you know.
02:21:04.899 --> 02:21:08.979
And I'm like, I just tell him, look, buddy, I ain't bothered nobody.
02:21:09.059 --> 02:21:12.819
I've hunted this literally for years and never had a problem.
02:21:13.459 --> 02:21:17.219
He said, No, I'm not I'm not gonna get mad at you or get on to you or tell you to leave.
02:21:17.299 --> 02:21:18.659
He said, I I want you to hunt this.
02:21:18.899 --> 02:21:21.539
He said, He said, I'm here every night.
02:21:21.859 --> 02:21:25.219
And he said, I sit here and I listen to your dogs run and tree.
02:21:25.299 --> 02:21:26.659
This man was an old talk.
02:21:26.739 --> 02:21:28.819
He said, I sit and listen to them run and tree.
02:21:28.979 --> 02:21:30.259
He said, They sound good.
02:21:30.419 --> 02:21:43.219
Well, a couple years went by, and I hadn't hunted that place in several years, and then I I got me another old cone dog, and uh I pulled in there and I turned loose.
02:21:43.939 --> 02:21:47.859
One dog went hard right, and one dog went straight up the gut.
02:21:48.579 --> 02:21:57.379
Well, the dog went hard right was going towards some some newer uh apartments, dorm apartments per se.
02:21:58.579 --> 02:22:03.699
And uh I was thinking um and I'm talking a big facility, you know, big company.
02:22:03.859 --> 02:22:09.459
I'm thinking, well, I he's a young dog, so I'm gonna he's on over through there and I'm gonna I'm gonna catch my dog.
02:22:09.779 --> 02:22:16.419
Well, I caught my dog and I was coming out of there and I said, I said, Hell, I'm gonna run to the gas station and see and get me a drink.
02:22:16.579 --> 02:22:23.059
I had that, I had that drivetrack, so I could literally, it w I wasn't fucking four mile from the dunk.
02:22:23.219 --> 02:22:26.979
I said, I can track him on that side track from where I'm at.
02:22:27.139 --> 02:22:30.579
I'm just gonna run down here and get me a drink, and then I'll ease back up.
02:22:31.059 --> 02:22:33.699
I pull in there at the gas station now.
02:22:35.139 --> 02:22:42.419
And I get out and I go in the store and I come back out, and there's three western cops surrounding my truck.
02:22:42.819 --> 02:22:51.139
Oh damn and uh I'm cocky, I've got a mouth, and I ain't got no feel.
02:22:53.299 --> 02:22:57.459
And I said, uh something I can help you with.
02:22:57.539 --> 02:22:58.979
And he said, Yeah, where you been?
02:22:59.139 --> 02:23:06.979
And I tell him I went up to my apartment to catch my dog, whatever.
02:23:07.459 --> 02:23:10.819
He said, That's that's school property, you're not allowed to hunt.
02:23:12.419 --> 02:23:15.139
And uh I was kind of smart.
02:23:15.219 --> 02:23:16.979
I said, I said, Did you not hear what I said?
02:23:17.139 --> 02:23:19.219
I said, I caught my fucking dog.
02:23:19.699 --> 02:23:23.139
Like I I wasn't hunting, I I just caught my dog.
02:23:23.859 --> 02:23:26.259
He's like, Well, you can't be over no more.
02:23:27.459 --> 02:23:33.299
Well, when he told me I can't, I'm surprised they didn't put them shiny braces on me.
02:23:33.379 --> 02:23:34.659
I said, Listen, let me tell you something, buddy.
02:23:34.739 --> 02:23:37.299
I said, You see that screen monitor on my windshield?
02:23:37.459 --> 02:23:37.939
He said, Yeah.
02:23:38.099 --> 02:23:45.139
I said, Well, you see that fucking uh icon there that's got that dog and it's moving?
02:23:46.099 --> 02:23:46.579
Yeah.
02:23:46.739 --> 02:23:48.419
I said, well, that's my dog.
02:23:48.739 --> 02:23:57.059
I said, and he's still in there, and I said, whether you like it or whether you don't like it, I said, when he sits down in there, I said, I'm going to get my dog.
02:23:57.459 --> 02:24:00.659
I said, You can like it, you can lump it, whatever.
02:24:00.819 --> 02:24:02.979
I said, but I'm going to get him.
02:24:03.699 --> 02:24:07.779
He said, uh, no, no, you be trespassing.
02:24:08.499 --> 02:24:10.739
I said, buddy, all I can tell you is watch this.
02:24:10.899 --> 02:24:14.579
In fact, that time it said, it said, Jack tree quarry.
02:24:17.379 --> 02:24:20.259
So I I said, uh, are we done here?
02:24:20.579 --> 02:24:21.859
And he said, not hardly.
02:24:21.939 --> 02:24:22.899
I said, well, I'm done here.
02:24:22.979 --> 02:24:23.779
My dog's treat.
02:24:23.859 --> 02:24:25.379
I've got to go get my dog.
02:24:25.619 --> 02:24:28.339
I got in my truck, shut my door, and I pushed the clutch in it.
02:24:28.419 --> 02:24:31.539
I pulled out of the gas station, pulled right back in there to the dump.
02:24:32.739 --> 02:24:34.979
Three cock pulled in right behind me.
02:24:36.899 --> 02:24:41.939
And I said, Buddy, I said, uh, where's such and such?
02:24:42.099 --> 02:24:42.579
He said, Why?
02:24:42.659 --> 02:24:44.499
I was like, because hell he never gave me a problem.
02:24:44.579 --> 02:24:46.019
He used to sit right there at the fire department.
02:24:46.179 --> 02:24:48.259
He'd listen to my dog's running tree.
02:24:48.339 --> 02:24:53.219
And I said, You just want to be young, cocky little bastards, because you've got them fucking badges.
02:24:53.539 --> 02:25:00.819
I said, All I can tell you is I'm going to get my dog, and if you're going to take me to jail or write me a ticket, you'll have to wait till I get fucking back.
02:25:02.419 --> 02:25:07.059
I went on and I got my dog, and I come back, and there was one cop still sitting there.
02:25:08.819 --> 02:25:11.779
And he said, uh, why didn't you shoot it out?
02:25:13.059 --> 02:25:18.659
I said, uh I just didn't want to really, you know, add to the fire per se.
02:25:20.579 --> 02:25:22.579
He says, Well, I don't have a problem with it.
02:25:22.739 --> 02:25:25.619
He said, it is school property.
02:25:27.139 --> 02:25:31.219
Uh I said, Well, I'll tell you what, buddy, I said, I'm not gonna stop hunting here.
02:25:31.299 --> 02:25:32.179
Like, I I hunt here.
02:25:32.259 --> 02:25:33.299
This is just where I hunt.
02:25:33.379 --> 02:25:36.019
Like, it's a fucking dump, there's coons there.
02:25:37.859 --> 02:25:39.299
Uh he said, I understand.
02:25:40.899 --> 02:25:46.819
And uh a couple of nights went by and I went back down there, and then motherfuckers pulled back in there.
02:25:47.059 --> 02:25:49.139
And I was calling dogs up.
02:25:49.619 --> 02:25:52.419
And I said, Boys, I'm gonna tell you the same thing.
02:25:52.739 --> 02:25:57.139
I told you the other night, take me to jail, write me a ticket, or leave me the fuck alone.
02:25:57.219 --> 02:26:03.139
And when I said that, I turned my fucking dog loose, and he went right through there and he said, I know you just didn't turn your dog loose, sir.
02:26:03.699 --> 02:26:05.459
I said, Yeah, I did.
02:26:05.859 --> 02:26:10.659
And just like I'll turn him loose tomorrow night here about the same time if you want to come join me.
02:26:12.179 --> 02:26:12.899
Mm-mm-mm.
02:26:13.299 --> 02:26:15.219
They they called the game warden.
02:26:16.259 --> 02:26:22.419
And the game warden came down there and he said, uh, where have you been turning loose?
02:26:22.579 --> 02:26:24.499
And I told him I turned it loose on the other side, you know.
02:26:24.579 --> 02:26:27.059
I turned I where I told him I turned it loose was private.
02:26:27.619 --> 02:26:29.059
They just had to cross over.
02:26:30.419 --> 02:26:35.059
Game warden both basically told them this is one of them times where the game warden done good.
02:26:35.859 --> 02:26:38.659
Game one basically told him not to be harassing me no more.
02:26:38.819 --> 02:26:42.419
Well and I ain't had no fucking bit of problem out of them no more.
02:26:43.539 --> 02:26:45.619
But buddy, that place has got fucking cones.
02:26:45.779 --> 02:26:58.099
Well, that's crazy, because like I mean, like you said, normally in most instances like that, the the game warden's gonna be like, well, you're trespassing or whatever, you know, but sounds like you had a pretty good one there.
02:26:58.499 --> 02:27:02.659
And a lot of times that people are just fucking making a big deal out of nothing.
02:27:04.099 --> 02:27:06.579
I've had people hunt on my stuff and I know it.
02:27:06.659 --> 02:27:10.099
I mean, I've seen them on camera, I know who they are.
02:27:10.579 --> 02:27:16.099
But they I don't think that they intentionally ever turned loose there.
02:27:16.579 --> 02:27:20.899
You know, because some of them they'll shoot me a text with like, hey man, we was hunting at such and such.
02:27:21.059 --> 02:27:23.619
Dogs got out of pocket, they over there on y'all stuff.
02:27:23.699 --> 02:27:25.299
And I'm like, well, go get them.
02:27:25.459 --> 02:27:26.899
You know, don't call me shit.
02:27:27.059 --> 02:27:28.659
You know how to go get them.
02:27:28.979 --> 02:27:29.299
Yeah.
02:27:29.539 --> 02:27:33.699
But they are respectful enough to call, and I really appreciate that, you know.
02:27:34.179 --> 02:27:37.219
Yeah, I've gotten some shit going to get dogs.
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Oh, you ain't lying.
02:27:38.899 --> 02:27:39.539
My God.
02:27:41.059 --> 02:27:42.499
Long range ones are rough.
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Well, he turned it loose one night.
02:27:44.259 --> 02:27:46.179
Now, now, now, you know, you're talking about long range.
02:27:46.259 --> 02:27:51.059
That old black white dog coon hunting now, he was 100% probably the best coon dog I've ever owned him.
02:27:51.219 --> 02:27:52.259
He was a coon dog.
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Uh, but he wasn't a real long-range dog.
02:27:55.699 --> 02:28:03.459
He, you know, 750 was a long way for him, but hell, 750 yards in these fucking mountains is a long fucking ways anyway.
02:28:03.779 --> 02:28:04.659
You're damn right.
02:28:05.219 --> 02:28:17.619
And uh I turned loose one night on the river, and he was like, he I I hunted these same places, the dump and this other place, and I hunted about four places consistently.
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And and that old dog, he knows he went the same fucking route every time he turned it down through that like quaffing.
02:28:26.259 --> 02:28:31.779
He went around through there and he got on an old big big dick mountain and that son of a bitch run.
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I mean, he left that.
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And he got treated on the other side.
02:28:36.899 --> 02:28:39.699
I mean, I guess the son bitch swam the river they had to.
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Well, I had to drive.
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I couldn't walk all I had to drive almost around nearly.
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And I I pulled up his driveway, I looked at drive track and I said, and it, you know, my dogs was up through the herd, and I said, Hell, this is where I gotta go.
02:28:57.059 --> 02:28:59.299
Well, I pull in.
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Now, there is a gate open.
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The gate was open, so I didn't I didn't usually get to read no fucking sign that said no trespassing.
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The gate was fucking open.
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So I pull up and the road kind of splits.
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The house is on up the hill a little ways, you can see it.
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But I park at another gate and it forks out to the right.
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My dog's up for about 150 yards.
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I mean, just blowing the fucking pop out.
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Well, I get out, and this woman standing up at that house raising fucking hell.
02:29:35.699 --> 02:29:40.099
If I if I attempt to go to my dog, she's gonna turn some pit bulls loose.
02:29:40.259 --> 02:29:41.299
Oh shit.
02:29:42.739 --> 02:29:47.619
Well, I said, ma'am, and I'll try to I tried to reason and be polite.
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And that don't happen much with me.
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I said, ma'am, I said, I'm not here to bother nobody.
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I I apologize, my dog crossed over.
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I said, I'm just gonna slip in there and get my dogs and I'm gonna be on my way.
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And she said, No, you're not.
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She said, I'll turn these pit bulls loose.
02:30:04.819 --> 02:30:09.379
I said, ma'am, I have the right to retrieve in the state of North Carolina.
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That's a law here.
02:30:11.059 --> 02:30:12.659
We have a right to retrieve.
02:30:15.939 --> 02:30:19.539
She kept rambling on, rambling on about them fucking bulldogs.
02:30:20.259 --> 02:30:25.219
Well, I said, uh, ma'am, I'm I'm going to get my dog.
02:30:25.459 --> 02:30:28.819
I said, You can call the fucking Lyle or whatever you want to if you need to.
02:30:28.899 --> 02:30:30.579
But I said, I'm going to get my dog.
02:30:31.619 --> 02:30:33.299
She said, Well, I'm going to turn into a dog.
02:30:33.859 --> 02:30:37.939
I said, I'll tell you what, I said, You turn them motherfuckers loose and they come down here and bite me.
02:30:38.259 --> 02:30:41.539
I said, They won't come back to your fucking house.
02:30:43.299 --> 02:30:44.819
And she said, Are you threatening me?
02:30:44.899 --> 02:30:47.619
I said, No, I'm just telling you, I ain't gonna get fucking dog bit.
02:30:48.979 --> 02:30:53.219
Well, sure enough, she called the fucking loud.
02:30:53.699 --> 02:30:55.699
I hadn't left my fucking truck yet.
02:30:55.859 --> 02:30:57.459
I was still standing at my truck.
02:30:57.779 --> 02:31:01.459
Well, a deputy calls me on my phone.
02:31:01.539 --> 02:31:06.259
Like I've got a couple of them that's my buddies, you know, and they'll c I mean I've got their personal numbers.
02:31:08.019 --> 02:31:09.459
He said, Rooster, where you at?
02:31:09.539 --> 02:31:14.499
And I tell him I was on Gettysburg Lane or Gettysburg Drive or some shit like that.
02:31:15.219 --> 02:31:16.899
And he said, God damn it, Rooster.
02:31:17.059 --> 02:31:20.099
I told you you need to go to the you need to go on the mountain to get out of fucking town.
02:31:20.259 --> 02:31:22.739
He said, You hunting in all these fucking houses.
02:31:23.699 --> 02:31:27.619
And uh I said, Hell I I didn't turn loose here, my dog just came over here.
02:31:27.859 --> 02:31:33.139
Well he gets there and that woman was fucking raising hell high raped, she threatened to turn the bull back roof on the polo.
02:31:33.859 --> 02:31:34.579
Damn.
02:31:34.979 --> 02:31:38.819
And then he said, ma'am, he said, I I advise you not to do such.
02:31:39.139 --> 02:31:43.699
He told me, he said, you're going up there and get your dogs, he said, leave it.
02:31:43.859 --> 02:31:44.979
He said, Don't even bother it.
02:31:45.059 --> 02:31:47.299
He said, just snap your dogs and come on.
02:31:48.979 --> 02:31:51.859
Well, I went up there and I got my dog.
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Come back.
02:31:53.779 --> 02:31:55.379
He told me to go on.
02:31:56.099 --> 02:31:58.579
I sit down at the bottom of the road and I waited on him.
02:31:58.739 --> 02:31:59.539
He came back.
02:32:01.619 --> 02:32:04.339
He said, you know, I'm kind of glad she didn't turn them fucking dogs.
02:32:04.739 --> 02:32:08.819
That's a crazy, because them was two of the biggest fucking bulldogs I've ever seen.
02:32:11.139 --> 02:32:23.619
And uh told her, you know, that yes, even though that is private property, the gateway was open, so the sign was not visible.
02:32:23.779 --> 02:32:42.179
But I had a right to retrieve and uh she she basically had told him that if it happened again, that I was gonna pull up to her door, knock on her door, and ask her if I could go get my dog.
02:32:43.219 --> 02:32:51.779
And I said, Dustin, I said, I'm gonna do everything I can not to have to come back over here because I said I'm gonna have to deal with some fucking dogs.
02:32:53.779 --> 02:32:59.459
And I never did go back over there, you know, but I've got in some shit now, can hunting.
02:32:59.619 --> 02:33:00.339
Oh man, eh?
02:33:00.579 --> 02:33:04.019
I've I've gotten into more shit cane hunting than any other kind of hunt.
02:33:04.419 --> 02:33:05.539
I can imagine.
02:33:05.859 --> 02:33:08.579
Other than turkey hunting, but we won't get into that.
02:33:08.819 --> 02:33:11.779
Now we'll do that one on the on the next one.
02:33:12.499 --> 02:33:14.979
Let's see what we're looking at on time.
02:33:16.259 --> 02:33:19.219
I think we're let's see.
02:33:19.379 --> 02:33:20.499
I think we're a couple hours.
02:33:20.579 --> 02:33:23.459
Anyway, we got plenty for uh for a show.
02:33:24.259 --> 02:33:28.819
Yeah, we're over we're two and a half hours in on it, buddy.
02:33:28.979 --> 02:33:33.139
All right, well, that uh that'll we'll wrap this one up then, man.
02:33:33.619 --> 02:33:43.939
Listen, appreciate you taking time doing it and sitting and talking with us, sharing some of your life experiences and some stories and talking about the dogs and the hunting.
02:33:44.339 --> 02:33:50.259
And it's always exciting anytime we have a conversation, but we'll uh we'll do another one.
02:33:50.499 --> 02:33:56.899
Think about some good stories, good hunting stories, and funny stuff, and some outrageous stuff that you got in the back of your mind.
02:33:57.139 --> 02:34:01.139
And uh let's do one that let's do another one here in a few weeks.
02:34:01.379 --> 02:34:04.579
That one might need to be a fucking like a pay-per-view or something like that.
02:34:04.899 --> 02:34:05.939
Well that's what we need to do.
02:34:08.419 --> 02:34:09.779
Well, yeah, we'll have to do it.
02:34:09.859 --> 02:34:13.539
We'll have to have that uh explicit content.
02:34:13.699 --> 02:34:15.939
We have to have that sticker on the front.
02:34:16.659 --> 02:34:19.619
Yeah, parental advisory like on the C D cases.
02:34:19.779 --> 02:34:20.659
That's right.
02:34:22.099 --> 02:34:27.619
They probably ain't the same bitch on this damn platform that even still remembers a damn C D.
02:34:28.339 --> 02:34:29.539
Ain't no doubt.
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No doubt.
02:34:30.659 --> 02:34:32.099
So all right, my buddy.
02:34:32.179 --> 02:34:33.379
Well, I'm fixing up.
02:34:33.619 --> 02:34:38.499
Call it, and I'm gonna go grab me a bite to eat, and I'm gonna get my butt to bed because I got work early in the morning.
02:34:38.819 --> 02:34:48.899
Yeah, well, I'm gonna I'll I'm gonna go through you there too, try to get down and see if we can watch some sorry ass dogs catch a pig and whatever.
02:34:49.139 --> 02:34:49.779
That's right.
02:34:50.019 --> 02:34:52.019
We'll we'll find one tied up somewhere.
02:34:52.259 --> 02:34:56.179
Somebody's got staked out in the woods, we might find one like it.
02:34:56.579 --> 02:34:57.939
I don't I don't give a damn.
02:34:58.019 --> 02:34:58.819
I don't want to kill one.
02:34:58.899 --> 02:34:59.859
I've killed several.
02:35:00.259 --> 02:35:02.659
I'd love, I'd love for Arnie Lady to stick one.
02:35:02.819 --> 02:35:04.339
Oh, well, we fix him up.
02:35:04.419 --> 02:35:06.419
We damn sure fix him up.
02:35:07.779 --> 02:35:11.939
You have to get him you have to get him to tell your story about him and that buyer.
02:35:12.339 --> 02:35:13.619
Oh, we'll get him on here.
02:35:13.779 --> 02:35:16.419
Hell, like I said, we do another one, get him to call in with you.
02:35:16.579 --> 02:35:19.459
Hell, I can have two or three people on here at once.
02:35:19.859 --> 02:35:20.419
Really?
02:35:20.659 --> 02:35:21.299
Yeah.
02:35:22.819 --> 02:35:23.699
He ain't even gotta leave.
02:35:23.779 --> 02:35:28.259
I can call him at his house and just connect all of them, and there we go.
02:35:28.899 --> 02:35:30.179
Yeah, yeah.
02:35:30.419 --> 02:35:32.499
Um anyhow.
02:35:32.899 --> 02:35:33.779
We'll get that figured out.
02:35:34.019 --> 02:35:35.379
It's been it's been a pleasure.
02:35:35.539 --> 02:35:35.859
Yes, sir.
02:35:36.259 --> 02:35:40.419
Um you know where I'm at if you need me.
02:35:40.659 --> 02:35:41.539
All right, my man.
02:35:41.699 --> 02:35:42.419
I appreciate you.
02:35:42.499 --> 02:35:43.379
I'll talk to you later.
02:35:43.619 --> 02:35:44.419
All right, we'll see you.
02:35:44.899 --> 02:35:45.699
Yes, sir.
02:35:47.859 --> 02:35:48.659
There we go.
02:35:48.819 --> 02:35:53.779
That's the world-famous old rooster, the guy with the little blue pills.
02:35:54.259 --> 02:35:56.579
He tells tells them stories and stuff, man.
02:35:56.659 --> 02:35:58.499
Sometimes he gets you fired up.
02:35:58.579 --> 02:36:07.699
I kind of caught him off guard tonight because I literally messaged him like probably 30 minutes before we started, and I was like, hey, want you to hop on tonight.
02:36:07.939 --> 02:36:08.979
He's like, Really?
02:36:09.059 --> 02:36:11.139
I'm like, yeah, come on, let's get after it.
02:36:11.299 --> 02:36:20.339
So hey, we'll get uh we'll get him to get some thought up and get them laid out and tell us some good stories here on another another episode here in a few weeks.
02:36:20.419 --> 02:36:25.219
So hey man, we appreciate all y'all sticking with us through the through the thick and thin.
02:36:25.539 --> 02:36:28.339
I know we ain't been putting out a whole lot of episodes right now.
02:36:28.579 --> 02:36:31.219
This is the busiest time of year with us working.
02:36:31.459 --> 02:36:36.019
Uh we stay busy all the time, but it's especially busy.
02:36:36.339 --> 02:36:39.219
100 plus degrees, just like it is everywhere else.
02:36:39.779 --> 02:36:45.139
Man, when we get done in the in the evenings, it's hard to get to do a whole lot of anything.
02:36:45.299 --> 02:36:49.539
And uh and keeping guests rounded up, that can be pretty tough too.
02:36:49.619 --> 02:36:55.539
So, hey, till next time, we appreciate y'all and we'll see y'all remember God loves you, and so do I.