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All right.
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Not yet.
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Welcome back, everybody, to the Digital Fire podcast.
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It's Caleb.
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And Stefan.
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And we're gonna crack a cold one with the boys.
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That was that was perfectly in sync.
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Boy, am I glad we started because I was thirsty.
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I know I was too.
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This actually tastes pretty good, the orange aid.
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It really does.
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It's it's I mean, it's like uh I don't know what you would call it.
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I mean, obviously it tastes like orange, you know, hence orange aid.
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Yeah.
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But it also has like a different twist.
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Like it's not orange juice.
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It's like something else mixed in with it.
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And it actually tastes really good.
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Well, I would hope it's not orange juice.
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Orange aid is like orange is like the orange lemonade version.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I maybe it is like lemonade mixed in with it a little bit because it does feel like it's got like that lemony flavor, too.
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Let's see here.
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Let's take a look, ladies and gentlemen.
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Arizona tea fax.
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I was so upset though, because they didn't have my uh black and white tea.
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So I was like, yeah, I'll just I'll just settle for like a green tea and then I'll get like uh an orange aid.
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I never seen it and tried it, but I always love Arizona's like flavors when they come out.
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Because you never know if like a new flavor is gonna be good.
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Yeah.
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Is that new orange aid or has it been around?
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I think it's probably been around, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
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It it's good either way.
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Like I like it.
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I'd probably pick it up.
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Orange aid is a sweet and tangy citrus drink made by combining orange juice with water and sugar.
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So I guess that it is kind of like orange juice, but they add they probably water it down a little bit, and then add sugar, is what it sounds like.
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Which is not bad.
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No, and surprisingly, per serving is 90 calories compared to green tea, which is 130.
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Which I don't know how they do that.
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But maybe it's just because it's literally like what you said, it's orange juice and watered down.
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Yeah.
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And then they just add a little bit more sugar in it.
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Yeah.
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Or a lot of bit sugar.
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Or a lot of it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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A lot of it.
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Oh my goodness.
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Oh, wait, hold on.
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I gotta connect my phone.
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Oh, I was gonna tell you too.
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Uh, I applied at Men's Warehouse as a store manager, so hopefully something comes up.
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Because I still got I'm supposedly hearing from this hospital gig.
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Um, hopefully this week at some point.
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They said it might take like about a week, week and a half.
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So I was like, yeah, that's fine.
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I don't care.
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As long as I hear back, even if I don't get the job, I'm like, that's fine.
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But apparently they said green check marks all the way around.
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What was that?
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Just testing out the things.
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Yes, anyway, I heard green check marks.
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Yeah, green check marks all the way around.
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They said, and the interview went good.
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It lasted the 20 minutes.
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And so if the hospital job is going well, why are you applying that?
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Oh, I'm just applying just in case.
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Like, I don't hear anything, or if it falls through, like I'd rather because I just want to get out of my current job.
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I do.
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It's time for a change to get a big boy job.
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Even men's warehouse, though, like it's you're you're getting paid.
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I think you get commission per suit you sell.
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So you start off obviously as a base pay, but then you get like commission, which I'm like, that's not bad.
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And you probably get a discount.
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All right, I I'm pretty sure that you would get a discount on suits.
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Yeah, that or like maybe what they do is like I don't know if all car dealerships do this, but if like you're a car salesman and they're like, Yeah, you know, uh how do you feel about getting uh you see that car right there?
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If you can sell me a if you can sell a car right now, like I'll give you that car, it'll be on the house.
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Because some dealerships do do that.
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Like, um, I know my stepmom forever ago, she actually got a free car from a car dealership because she became a car salesman.
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And um yeah, they just said, like, yeah, if you can sell me like five cars like this month or something like that, then I'll just that car's yours.
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I'm like, cool.
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Oh, so I mean maybe Well, you'd probably also have to wear a suit every day for work.
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I'd be fine with that.
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So if you're okay with that, then cool.
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Yeah, I I would honestly, if it if I did work at a car dealership, I'd probably work at a Honda dealership because I'd either want a new Honda Accord or try out a new Honda Civic.
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They're not gonna give you a new car, Stefan, for free.
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Imagine.
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Yeah, I mean, we can imagine, and that's cool, but right, but still, that would be but you probably get like a stupid good discount on like either your monthly payments or just the car price at all.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, you'd hope.
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Yeah, I mean, I could sell a Honda, no problem, because I already know everything about Hondas since I've had like three, but then also I know other people that have had Hondas that I've helped out on, so it's like pretty nice.
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Yeah, it is pretty nice, it is pretty nice.
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All right, do we want to get started?
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I think we do, but before we do that, Caleb, we have to jump in.
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A little bit of excitement on pushing that button.
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I know.
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I kind of wanted to try saying the whole, like, but Caleb, we have to jump in.
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Okay, so this one this one is actually from Reddit.
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Ooh.
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I don't know.
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This guy, 20.
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I'm 21.
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So the guy she's seeing is 20, and she's 21.
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And she says he keeps meowing.
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All right, off to a great start.
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I was thinking the same thing.
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So it's been quite some time since I've been seeing this guy.
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Oh, and and mind you, this one is a little bit shorter, but right.
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And initially I was into him, but lately I've been finding him pretty annoying.
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So I was gonna say she she was into him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, she says initially I was into him.
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Okay, so that should answer her question.
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Right! Because like if if it if it's I was into him.
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It's not like I am into him, but yeah, it's yeah, exactly.
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There's still the but, but it was I was into him.
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But lately I've been finding him pretty annoying.
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We've only met in real life thrice, which means three times.
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Yeah, and I hate when people say thrice.
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This person like the regular my baby's like 32 months old.
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It's like that, it's like gross.
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And each time he does something that seriously angers me and later apologizes for it.
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Oh, but if he keeps apologizing for it, is he really sorry if he keeps doing it?
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Yeah, seriously.
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This guy, this guy's an issue already.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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She's got the cat in the bag.
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But I have that.
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Oh, you do?
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There you go.
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A little too fast, but yeah.
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I know he I know he has a bit of a meowing problem, as I like to call it.
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He meows every now and then, and I think it is either to seem cute or to get out of difficult conversations.
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Either way, talking to him didn't help at all.
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Recently, we went out and he, of course, meowed at every inconvenience, tried to make biscuits on my thighs, and in general, just tried being very feline.
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That's crazy.
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You know what making biscuits?
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Yeah, it's like when they do like the stretch their paws out for no reason.
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Yeah, but I yeah, but for no reason, Stefan.
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They're just doing it.
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What other reason does a cat stretch?
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They just well, don't you want to stretch?
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Yeah, but I don't make biscuits on people's well for him, it's crazy, but like a cat doing it on like a couch or something, it's normal.
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Yeah, like well, yeah, it's an animal.
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You said they do it for no reason, so I'm challenging that.
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Oh, are you?
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Yeah, challenge accepting.
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I kind of want to know though, what originated that saying of making biscuits.
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Because it it looks like they're like kneading dough.
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Oh pushing, pushing the dough.
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But it's really yeah, probably.
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I see it now.
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That's that's what I would think.
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Um, otherwise, I don't know where it comes from.
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That's my only guess.
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You know what is pretty funny is my brother's got five cats, right?
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Five?
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Yeah, he's got two kittens and three adult cats.
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And when Tyrone, Tyrone's my favorite, because what would be funny is when I live with my brother, I'd be playing my video games upstairs after me and like John would get done playing like Fortnite or something, and I go play Sonic.
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And he would just stand right or he'd stare right in front of the TV, right next to me, get all cuddled up, and he just watched me play.
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He would stare, no joke, at the TV and watch me play Sonic the Hedgehog for whatever reason.
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He would be glued onto it.
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Maybe he saw them as at their animals.
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That's true.
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And it was funny though, because is there any cat characters in Sonic?
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Blaze.
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Blaze the cat.
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She's like purple.
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Oh, I forgot what she looks like.
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I'm more of a hedgehog guy.
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I like Silver.
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Silver's my favorite, but he's not in this game.
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No, I was just saying because if a cat's watching you play the game.
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Oh, yeah, like if there's like another animal in there.
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Yeah, because that's what you're talking about, right?
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A cat would just sit there and watch.
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Yeah, he was just watching me play Sonic.
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I think it was just because Sonic's in the in the game, he's just moving around, then you obviously collect rings like normal Sonic.
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Oh, yeah.
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But it was funny because there was one time he was he was making biscuits.
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Like I was just laying down after playing the game, and he was making biscuits on my chest or whatever.
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And I just like he loves getting his butt patted.
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So I just like smack his butt, and right as he's like pre-doing like the making biscuits motion, and there was one time I think it just it caught him off guard, and you just felt the claw go like he didn't do it intentionally, he just got scared and then he scampered off.
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But he didn't mind it though, because he would just sit there and keep making biscuits while I pat his butt.
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He was a weird, he's a weird cat, but I love him.
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He's he's like my favorite cat that my brother owns.
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Is he still here?
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Yeah, he's still here.
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He's like uh five years old now.
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Oh, okay.
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That's not bad.
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Yeah, not because cats live to be like 20.
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Yeah.
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Park Ranger is the oldest one.
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I think he's like over 10 or 11 now.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, he's old.
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He's fat though.
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He was a fat boy.
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But he also likes to get into human food too when nobody's looking.
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So there's that's I'm sure a lot of them do if they could.
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Oh, yeah, 100%.
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Except for we used to have these two cats at work, and one of them was fatter because he always went for the food.
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You had a cat too, right?
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Wasn't it a tabby?
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It was a tabby named Toby.
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That's what it was.
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His name was is Toby.
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Yeah, he would, but he was crazy.
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Yeah, didn't he like claw at random people and like hate everybody?
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Yeah, it was weird.
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It's like your sister, Bethany.
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She probably listens to this, doesn't she?
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No, she doesn't listen to this.
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Are you kidding me?
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She wouldn't listen to this.
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No, but you remember she'd just scream.
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You'd hear from upstairs.
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It's like, oh my god.
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Yeah, that cat was crazy.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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She ends it with, I'm just very confused with the entire situation.
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Is this normal behavior, or am I just being a hater?
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Clearly, it's not that normal.
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I think if it was like every once in a while, it'd be funny, but if he's doing it as much as much as she says that he's doing it, like at inconvenient times and everything like that.
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I okay.
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There is a guy, this is this is related obviously to the story.
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There was a guy named Uli that used to work at my store or whatever, and he he used to go, meow, like every two seconds.
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This guy.
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If I was talking to him, like mid-conversation, go meow, like out of nowhere, or I'd be putting away parts being meow.
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I just hear it every two seconds.
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I'm like, I would have lost my mind.
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Oh, I did.
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I was like, bro, can you not?
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Like, I I was just so annoyed, and then he just and then he was like, okay.
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So then he started doing it once in a while, and it was like more what do you call it?
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Like, it was just easier to deal with.
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Yeah, you could deal with it a little bit more better.
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But yeah, if it was like that, where it's like once in a while, it's like cool, you know, whatever.
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But yeah, like in her case, it seems like it's like every two seconds, or he's just doing it to get out of like an argument, which is exactly crazy.
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Yeah, you shouldn't, obviously.
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Um, and they're still young, you know, 20, 21.
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So it's not like she's what kind of what what's the generational thing that they're called?
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Like Gen X or something like that?
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Like they're they're youngs, is what I call them.
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I think they would be like tail end of Gen Z.
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Probably.
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Gen X, I think, is like my parents.
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No, I called them boomers.
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My dad, I know my dad's a boomer for a hundred percent.
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He's 74 now.
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Still kicking it, man.
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I'm telling you.
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I'm gonna be 34 this year.
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Oh, I'm old.
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But I think we're called millennials.
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Yeah, we're millennials.
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Yeah, and then after Gen Z is um because it's millennials, then Gen Z is the generation below us, then it's Gen Alpha, and then Gen Beta is being born now.
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So, like some of some of Gen Alpha is starting to drive, which I think is crazy.
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That is crazy.
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Like your nephew Parker.
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My dude, my nephew's like 22.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, we used to bully him.
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That was great.
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Yeah, we already had that conversation.
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We did.
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I still love it though.
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Yeah, with these guys being what, 20 and 21?
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20 and 21.
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Yeah, they're and it says that what is what did she say?
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We've only met thrice.
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That's what she says.
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So they've only met three times in person, so I don't see why she's even questioning.
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Like, I would just be done with that at that point.
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Yeah, because there's not really like an emotional connection, right?
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He's meowing if you find it that annoying already, yeah, then you gotta go.
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Yeah, if it's like 10 years down the line and it's like you're just starting to get annoyed by it, that's one thing.
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But if you're already annoyed after three times, right, and then has she even like talked to him about it?
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That's yeah, she said.
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Oh, yeah, she did.
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What did she say?
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Yeah, because she said like when they argue and stuff like that, like maybe the argument's like part of it.
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Uh he meows.
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Well, she I don't know.
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Because if she just mentions it.
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Oh, yeah, she said either way, talking to him didn't help at all.
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Okay, yeah.
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So then at that, yeah, then she just leave the guy at this point.
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Yeah, if you've only met three times, it's like it's you gotta be over.
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Because obviously he's it's weird because like females mature a lot, I think, faster than males in general, yeah.
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Yeah, so it's like he's still in that stage where he's like still obviously in his 20s or whatever, so he's young or like early 20s, like I wait, he's 20, right?
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20, she's 21.
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Okay, so yeah, he's 20, he's just barely an adult, he's still a baby, same as her, but like, you know, yeah, but women's uh brains like mature a lot faster, like they already kind of know what they want, and then but they can also still be, you know, childish to a degree, yeah.
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And but a 20-year-old male does not need to be meowing that much, like at that point, he can yeah, like yeah, he is considered young, but you're not that young to be walking around meowing.
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Right, like if he was 10, yeah, 10, but even 10, yeah, but like if you're younger than 10, I think it's somewhat plausible for like, oh yeah, they're gonna be a kid, they're annoying.
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But yeah, you're over the age of 18, you're an adult now.
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Yeah, it's time to it's time to grow up and like get over it.
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Like, again, once in a while, fine.
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But like if you're just gonna do it consistently, like that's kind of crazy.
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Very crazy.
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Are you cold or something?
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It's a little chilly.
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Oh, geez, I brought my hoodie just in case because I was like, it's starting to get to that nice fall weather where it's like sweater weather.
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I know.
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I wish it would just stay like this and not come, not go to winter.
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That's what I'm saying, man.
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We need like a state that does that where it's like fall all year round.
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Yeah, we're not gonna find that.
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Just nowhere on this earth, nowhere on this planet exists like that.
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It's either gonna be like hot for part, maybe.
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Ireland would probably be the only state I think or state, the only area that like would probably have that.
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Maybe the only problem with the UK and Ireland and all that area, maybe not Ireland, but I know at least like UK, Scotland, is like it seems like it rains a lot.
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I would be fine with rain over like snow that we get here in Michigan.
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Yeah, but I mean, imagine not seeing the sun for that long.
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That is true.
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Well, Alaska goes like what, six months without the sun?
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Or it goes, no, it goes six months with the sun.
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Well, it goes there's a one winter month where you have like 28 days with pretty much no sun.
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Yeah.
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And then you have one summer month where it's like all sun.
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All sun.
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No matter if it's 5 a.m.
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It never fully set, yeah.
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That would drive me crazy.
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Yeah, it does drive people crazy.
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5 a.m.
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and it's just still like it's like 12 in the afternoon.
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Well, it does move across the sky, like it kind of like is like almost like a sunset for part of it.
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Like it doesn't, it's not like just stay in one spot, it does go down a little bit, but it's and that's also not all of Alaska.
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There's only like certain areas that do that.
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Annika just got back from Alaska not too long ago, too.
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Really?
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Yeah, I don't know what part, I don't know if she was in Anchorage or if she was in like Gnome or something like that, but like where where they were staying at, their cabin, it was like for a mission trip.
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Um but it was pretty nice wherever they were at.
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It was like out in the woods and like no snow or anything like that.
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It was just like she goes, dude, it was nice.
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I was like, Well, yeah, Alaska's really nice in the summer, yeah.
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And it's because it never gets like super hot, but man, the winter.
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Yeah, that's brutal.
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You it's like survival at that point.
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I mean, I know there's like Fairbanks.
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How cold does Fairbanks get?
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I don't know.
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I gotta look it up.
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Then this is an awe of Alaska.
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Fairbanks is weird, yeah.
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I'm just kind of like a guy meowing consistently is weird.
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That would, dude.
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I'm like, I don't oh my god, I'd just be so tempted to punch that kid in the face.
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Fairbanks gets to negative 40.
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Negative 40?
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Anyway, yes, let's get back to the you're right.
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Let's get back to the uh ideal.
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Really?
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Not obviously really, but like you, I can't believe you said that.
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I know prison.
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It's metaphorically speaking, or not metaphorically, what is it?
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Figuratively, figuratively, yeah, figuratively speaking, because it's just that would just annoy me.
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And especially if they if they the difference is too, is like if they're doing it and they don't realize, but you can tell it's the they actually don't realize, then it's like yes, it's annoying as crap, but it's like whatever.
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But then if they act like they don't, but really you can see them like looking at you like they're doing it intentionally, but they're acting dumb, that's the part that would annoy the crap out of me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's where I'd be like, yeah, dude, we're done.
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But yeah, again, for them meaning thrice, yeah, you know, I would say just drop the dude, find somebody else that maybe barks.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I mean, it's that's that's a pretty given, it's a pretty given one.
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Maybe she's a dog person.
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Maybe she is.
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I'm surprised I never saw that on the comments.
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Like, maybe you just need to find a dog guy.
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Right.
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You would think some guy, some some guy that's just like single and like clever, and you're just like, maybe she'll like the funny guy.
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That's me.
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I always make jokes, and then people like me.
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And I pray that I can meet someone thinks I'm funny.
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No, no, you gotta get the I gotta get the Riz.
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Yeah, I haven't heard too many people say Riz.
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I haven't really heard that either lately.
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I think maybe it's is it like maybe a dying word, like kind of like pwned, like back in the day?
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I think Gen Z is on its way out.
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Probably.
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I think you know, like, because back when yeah, like pwned and bet and fam were like words of millennials.
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I still hear bet, but I don't hear fam as much, and I don't hear like owned or pwned.
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Yeah, but is definitely old.
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That's back when me and you were kids.
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Yeah, but gen like Riz is Gen Z language, and uh you know, it's Gen Z is becoming lame.
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One new one I just heard was one new one I just heard, it's from a video, and it's hilarious.
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Is uh it's from a streamer, and he goes, Not gonna like one of his commenter goes like not gonna lie, I'm gonna take a nap, let me know.
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And then he goes, Let you know what?
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I guess like it's just the funniest thing ever.
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His name is Lowe's or something like that, but he's that is hilarious, and then some guy like like I guess it just blew up after that one clip that he did, and it dude, it's hilarious.
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I'll have to show you it like after the podcast because we always look up stuff after the podcast.
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Uh here's to forgetting.
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Do you want to move on to number two?
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Woo! Whoa.
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I need you to tell me if I'm being paranoid.
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Paranoid.
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Paranoid, paranoid, paranoid, being paranoid.
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This one's
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Reminds me of the iCarly.
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What was it?
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The iPair or something like that they did.
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It was like the Apple phone parody.
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Yeah, the pear.
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It was the pear phone, the iPair.
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Yeah, the iPair.
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Then they had a pear top or something like that, too.
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Man.
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Man, the parodies go hard, you know, for stuff.
00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.160
Well, you said parodies.
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Oh, I didn't even realize that.
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Oh, the way you said it, it made I thought you purposely said it like that, and I was like, okay, I'll let you have that one.
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Oh, no, I didn't even realize.
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Either way, she's paranoid.
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Looks like we have two women writing in this today.
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My boyfriend and I went hiking in northern Montana last October.
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Why a year ago?
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Why are you riding this now?
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Maybe they just discovered us.
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I guess.
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We'd been dating for almost three years, and he'd been talking about this trail for months.
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He said it was remote, beautiful, and that we'd probably have the whole mountain to ourselves.
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Whatever that means.
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Yeah.
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It's either a threat or it's like a good time.
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Yeah.
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This sounds scary already.
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Right.
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The last part turned out to be true.
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We parked beside an old forest road just after sunrise.
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There were no other cars, no cell service, just pine trees, gray mountains, and this enormous silence that made every little sound seem wrong.
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Are they in their car?
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Like, I'm just wondering because it just is reminding me.
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You know that scene in Monsters versus Aliens where it's like you hear jerk you hear Journeys like, uh, look, who's crying now, or whatever?
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Like, yeah, well, I forget the lyric part where then he's like, Don't rush me, Katie.
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I'm just not ready.
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Like it's literally Journey's like Who's Crying Now is the name of the song, but I'm just picturing that because it's like out in the open next to a dirt road.
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Because that's the exact setting that that scene was in.
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Looks like we gotta look that up too.
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I know because I don't remember it.
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Just a random thought.
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It's it's hilarious.
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So uh, and this enormous silence made every little sound seem wrong.
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My boyfriend was excited.
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I remember thinking that was strange because I was nervous.
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He told me that the hike would take four hours, maybe five.
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Whoa.
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Whoa, that's technically that's kind of a short hike in today's, you know, when when we've got like my buddy Ethan, you know Ethan.
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Oh yeah, he's isn't he doing Mount uh not Mount Chili Head?
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What is that?
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What is it?
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Mount uh what mountain range is he doing?
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He's doing the Pacific Crest Trail, so it goes from the bottom part of California to Washington State.
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Mount Chili Head.
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Mount Chili Head.
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I want to go to Mount Chili Head.
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There's gotta be one somewhere, right?
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Either in America or in the world, and I gotta go now.
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Oh my gosh.
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At the trailhead, there was an old wooden sign with the trail name carved into it.
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Underneath, someone had scratched a warning into the wood.
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Don't follow the man.
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Okay, here I go.
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Yeah, she says, I laughed when I saw it.
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Yeah, I laughed when I saw it.
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He didn't, and he is uh her boyfriend is what What if he's the man?
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What if he's the man?
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He stared at the words for a few seconds and then said, probably some idiot trying to scare tourists.
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We started walking for the first two hours.
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Everything was normal.
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Then I noticed the footprints.
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Well, you can have footprints on a trail at any time at any time.
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Well, you think they sweep off like everything at the end of every day.
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Uh every day, some guy goes out there with a groom.
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That's funny.
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There were two sets in the mud ahead of us.
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Two sets of footprints.
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One belonged to hiking boots, the other looked like bare feet.
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Still not that weird because some people go hiking with bare feet.
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That's very crazy, though.
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They're out there.
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They're they're callus on the bottom of their feet, must be really good in order for them not to feel anything.
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Because I would feel like if I went barefoot hiking, like I'm gonna be in agonizing pain on my feet because the pebbles and like the sharp little rocks and sticks and like even a bug, like just feeling that like little squish.
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Just like, ugh, you know, like I'd hate it, but like it's just like, oh, do you have that thing like with seaweed and like grass?
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Like when you go into a lake when it brushes against your like foot or anything like that.
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Why?
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Like it just like I hate the feeling of like seaweed.
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Oh, yeah, so do I.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I there's no way.
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Like, I could tolerate walking barefoot on a trail than I would like, oh yeah, this is the great seaweed lake, and then it's just nothing but seaweed, and they're like, Go on in, it feels great.
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No, it's all murky, yeah.
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I hate it, and then it gets caught and it just wraps around your foot.
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You feel like a fish just is curling in between.
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I'm like, ugh.
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Yeah, it is not a good feeling.
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I have that too.
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I pointed them out, I was told not to worry about it.
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A little farther up, the bear footprints disappeared, the boot prints continued.
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Then maybe 20 minutes later, I saw something between the trees.
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Here we go.
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Oh boy.
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It was a man.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.920
He was standing a man, or not the man.
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.440
No man.
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:30.559
His twin brother.
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.440
He was standing about 50 yards away.
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.799
He was incredibly thin and completely still.
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.359
I grabbed my boyfriend's arm.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.880
There's someone over there.
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:41.839
He looked.
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.359
The man was gone.
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:45.920
You're seeing things, he said.
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.839
I wanted to believe him.
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.119
We kept going.
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.519
About an hour later, we stopped.
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:53.839
Checked our phone.
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:54.799
No signal.
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:55.839
I know.
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:57.200
He looked around.
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.960
Then he said something he then he said something that still bothers me.
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.599
I think we missed the turn.
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:04.720
Are you scared yet?
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:06.559
Shaking in my boots.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.119
I reminded him that he'd been here before.
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:12.559
He said, Yeah, I know.
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.960
Then he turned us around.
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.039
We walked back for 15 minutes before I realized something.
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:21.680
We weren't following the same trail.
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:22.400
Uh oh.
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:23.200
Uh-oh.
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:24.960
I could tell.
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:29.200
Just the little uh uh.
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.720
I could tell because we'd passed a fallen tree earlier.
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.559
It had a huge split running down the middle.
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.359
Almost like lightning had struck it.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:42.480
The tree wasn't.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.640
Oh, I feel like that pig in that movie.
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:47.920
The big explosion.
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:48.559
Yeah.
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.240
Oh my gosh.
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.480
The tree wasn't there anymore.
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.920
It was just, it's because he gets so huge.
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:01.359
It's like instant.
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.160
And then they just go on like nothing happened.
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:05.519
Like that wasn't abnormal.
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.680
Well, why did that happen?
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.200
Was he like drinking soda or something?
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.000
I think he like ate like some bomb or something like that.
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:20.799
Like it was like a bomb pie, like a sp like the SpongeBob episode where it's like they eat like uh, oh, these aren't pies, these are bombs from a bomb factory.
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.559
They're bombs.
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.480
I think that's literally the whole premise of it.
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.079
I could be wrong.
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:38.000
But yeah, so yeah, anyway, we're the thing that we're talking about is when the pig in barnyard walks into the barn with all the people and he just like just basically explodes.
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.599
Yeah, but he's he's still alive and he just goes back down to normal sides.
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:43.279
Funny, you should check it out.
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.839
Um, so anyway, there was uh the tree wasn't there anymore.
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.680
Instead, there was a different fallen tree.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.240
Ooh.
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.400
That's when I started getting scared.
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.519
Oh no, it says my boyfriend insisted it was the same one.
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.720
I'm trying to leave names out.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.039
Oh that's why I keep saying my boyfriend or he.
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.319
Oh, does it actually say like full doc's name and everything like that?
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.039
Yeah, and I don't wanna we don't want we don't want to completely dock.
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.880
So maybe I'll just replace it with like some random name.
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:19.920
That's when I started getting scared of him referring to her boyfriend because he is insisting that it's the same tree.
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.640
So she thinks that maybe he's the man.
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.640
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.559
Not the woods, him.
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.519
Because every time I asked where we were, he'd say almost there, but he never said where there was.
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.640
Oh eventually we reached a clearing.
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.359
Very there was an old hunting cabin in the middle of it.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.599
It looked abandoned for decades.
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:54.559
I asked Alex if we'd seen Alex.
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.160
Yeah, that's a pretty common name.
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.440
I asked Alex if we'd seen it on the way in.
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:00.880
He said no.
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.039
Then he walked toward it.
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.400
I stayed behind.
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:05.759
He opened the door.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.559
Come on! I asked him why.
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.640
I hope he didn't say it like that.
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.160
That would scare me.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:12.799
That wouldn't.
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.000
And his like sh teeth get sharp and he like his eyes turned red.
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:17.839
He's like a skinwalker.
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.480
Oh my yeah, that one.
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:21.039
Yeah.
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.279
I hate I hate those stories.
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:24.000
Same.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:25.039
They're scary.
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:25.920
They are, dude.
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.039
Some of them are really good though.
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.000
Like I listened to another podcast that like has like nothing but Windigo stories and skinwalker stuff.
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.920
Dude, they're creepy.
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.079
The atmosphere is really good too.
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:36.720
Woo!
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:37.440
I know.
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.039
Is that the one that you sent me?
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.119
No, there's like a maybe.
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.599
It was like forever ago that I might have sent it to you.
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.440
But yeah, oh, is it like Mr.
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:46.240
Mr.
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.440
Nightmare or something like that?
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:48.000
Something.
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:48.559
Yeah.
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.279
Yeah.
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.680
He just looked at me because it's getting dark.
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.799
So they want to go into an abandoned cabin because it's getting dark.
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.519
Okay, got it.
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.119
I checked my phone.
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.799
It was 2 17 p.m.
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.200
We had hours of daylight left.
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.559
That's when I noticed something carved into the cabin door.
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:07.119
Oh god.
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.200
The same words from the trailhead.
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.000
Do you remember?
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.000
Don't follow the man.
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:13.839
Yes, correct.
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:18.160
Except underneath them, someone had added another sentence.
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:20.400
He brings them here.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:21.200
Oh.
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.519
I don't like this.
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.119
I don't either, but something that's just like, I don't know.
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.519
Now you never know if these stories are like real or if they're.
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:35.759
Oh, probably more believable than the guy that went into a lighthouse and then one minute a brick wall was there and then it wasn't the next.
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.359
Yeah, that one was dumb.
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.519
Ugh, that one was terrible.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.359
Yeah, if you got a scary story, don't send a fake one about a lighthouse.
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:44.319
Yeah, come on.
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.119
We want the wheel.
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.319
We need real.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.759
So underneath it says he brings them here.
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.960
So who is this that knows that this guy does this?
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:54.000
Probably the man.
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:54.559
Probably.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.880
It could be the man just setting it up to make it look like somebody else is the man.
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:03.200
And then he comes in and he's like, the hashlinging slasher.
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:04.880
Or it's Alex.
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:05.680
That's true.
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:06.559
Alex.
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.960
I told Alex I wanted to leave.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.480
He got angry.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.279
Not normal, annoyed boyfriend angry.
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.440
He looked genuinely furious.
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:16.079
Ooh.
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:23.519
He said I'd been complaining the entire hike that I'd ruined the trip, and that if I wanted to sit in the woods until dark, I could.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:25.440
How does she ruin the trip?
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:26.720
Well, he doesn't.
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:38.400
I was like, because all it said was like, yeah, they turned around, and then she was like, is that the if the tree falling versus not falling was her ruining the trip?
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.559
That's crazy work right there.
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.680
Some people are crazy.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.160
Some people let little things like that ruin stuff.
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:44.960
That is true.
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.279
Yeah, I mean that there's weird people out there.
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.720
Hopefully, this isn't the case.
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.039
And like maybe there's just more to the story we didn't hear about.
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.960
Like maybe they were arguing on the way there or something like that.
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.880
Yeah, because they've been together three years.
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:55.440
Right.
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.400
And it's like, how do you not know he's like this?
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.119
Like, there's no way he was able to hide who he is that long.
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:01.599
Right.
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.400
Well, you never know.
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.559
Jeffrey Dahmer did it for a while.
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.280
Yeah, but he wasn't dating, like dating one person the whole time.
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:10.880
No, he was just then again.
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.599
Hasn't there been other serial killers that are married?
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.519
Uh yeah.
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.119
Yeah, I think.
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.360
Yeah, there was oh yeah, there was the Barbie, the Barbie killers or whatever.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.920
They were like a couple that looked like literal, like perfect human beings.
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.880
Like they had no acne, they had no pimples.
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:39.679
They were that's why they were called like the Barbie couple, but they murdered people and they were married, and um they got away with it for like I think three years or four years or something like that.
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.000
Yeah, but they both did it.
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:48.480
I'm just wondering if there's a case where like oh, like where the wife or husband doesn't know that the other is like a killer or something like that.
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:49.599
Oh man.
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:56.159
There has to be because, like, yeah, Jeffrey Dahmer got away with it, but it was also like he wasn't with the same people, right?
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:57.119
It was all different.
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.519
Yeah.
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.679
And he like, I want there's gotta be.
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:06.320
There, there has to be a hundred percent like somebody that didn't know that, like, this guy's a serial killer or whatever.
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.480
Yeah, we'll we'll look it up after.
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.440
Absolutely, because that's what we always do after the podcast.
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.480
Uh so he says, and that if I wanted to sit in the woods until dark, I could.
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.079
Then he walked away.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.719
I followed him because I didn't know what else to do.
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.360
For the next hour, he barely spoke, and then he disappeared.
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:25.840
Ooh.
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.320
One second he was 20 feet ahead of me.
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.239
The next he was gone.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.079
I screamed his name.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:32.800
Alex.
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:34.000
Wow.
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.880
I was actually I was actually gonna do it, but I figured that'd be kind of annoying.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.039
Yeah, a little bit, just kind of like the fire alarm earlier.
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:39.280
Yeah.
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:40.719
I have your attention, please.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.480
If it does that again in the middle of this, that'd be hilarious.
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:45.840
I'm gonna s I am gonna scream.
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.000
I'm gonna sue the apartment complex.
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:49.599
I am too.
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:51.519
I screamed his name, nothing.
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.960
I thought he'd fallen.
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.920
Then I heard his voice behind me.
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:58.320
Don't move.
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:01.039
Where is this going?
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:01.679
Uh-oh.
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.320
I don't know.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.039
Stinky.
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:03.599
Stinky.
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:04.079
Uh-oh.
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.519
I turned around.
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.880
He was standing on the trail, except there was something wrong with his face.
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.039
He was smiling.
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.960
Not a normal smile.
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.360
His mouth was stretched too wide.
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.800
And he said, You're gonna have to stay here.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.079
That sounds terrifying.
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:33.119
How do you also, yeah, how do you not know this person's like this after three years?
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:33.599
Yeah.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.719
Why would he first of all that'd be a very elaborate and detailed like serial killer move, right?
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.760
There is get to know somebody for a few years and then kill them at this rate, is how that goes.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.679
That's doesn't sound very efficient.
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.599
No, it doesn't, but that's terrifying.
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.440
Good for all the rest of the people.
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:50.719
Yeah, true.
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:58.400
I mean, there have been like it's it sounds crazy, but there have been like people that like fall in love with like I don't know, their parents' killer or something like that.
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.880
Like their parents die to this guy, and then like they get released, and then oh, I love you.
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:04.239
They're crazy though.
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.679
I wonder if they like do that and then like plan on killing them later.
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:13.840
Probably like a publicity stunt, and then yeah, probably something like what you're saying is they try they're gonna try to kill him later or something.
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.360
Yeah, something like that.
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.480
Or or they could actually that could actually happen.
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.000
You never know.
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:21.519
I ran.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.679
I didn't think, I just ran.
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:25.679
Branches tore my jacket.
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.039
I fell twice, I lost one of my shoes.
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:39.519
Behind me, I could hear him laughing, then I heard him calling my name, then I heard him crying, then I heard his voice coming from three different directions.
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.320
Please, don't leave me.
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:43.519
Help me.
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.519
I kept running.
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.000
That was what that was what she heard him saying in different directions.
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:51.360
Yeah.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:52.639
Oh my god.
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.639
Help me, don't leave me.
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:55.840
Please, please.
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.039
Oh my god.
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.599
Don't stop.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.360
I kept running.
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.400
I eventually found a road, a real road.
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.280
I walked for almost an hour before a truck stopped.
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.480
Let me guess.
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.440
And my prediction is he's gonna be the truck driver.
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.239
Oh my gosh, screw that.
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:18.000
Where are you headed, too, stranger?
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:19.440
I'm sure she looks up.
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:30.480
I'm so sick of horror movies doing that where like they get off to safety and then there's like a truck, but the guy driving the truck has been the killer that was like three miles behind them in the woods.
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:30.960
Right.
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:41.360
Or it's like uh they line it up and he's like a partner that like leads them to like where the killer is because it's like some weird sacrificial thing, or they just plan it together as a duo.
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.400
They just need a new like horror needs a new story.
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.320
Yeah, they need something a little bit well.
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:53.679
Black phone was pretty cool, but that's more like psychological horror than it is like that one would actually scare me.
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.119
That one that wouldn't be scary.
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:01.199
I like the paranormal stuff that like because it's like the invisible like stuff, like a door opening and closing by itself.
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.960
It's like, oh screw that.
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:04.800
That's what scares you.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.320
Well, it's the way that they do it.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:14.159
Like in the first paranormal activity, the first one that we like pirated, it was like back at Penn Street.
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.159
Like, we watched that, and I I had night, I couldn't sleep that night.
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:27.280
I literally couldn't because it was the thing that got me the worst was because our basement at that that house was really old and creepy.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:40.320
Yeah, it was, and then there was the scene in paranormal activity where it was like the stairs where it started off, like sounding like somebody's actually walking up them, and then it went like the running, and then the door just went poof, slammed.
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:41.760
I was like, Oh, nope.
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:47.760
Yeah, and then every time mom would be like, Hey, can you go downstairs in the basement and get like uh this soap or something like that?
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.440
And I'm like, uh because the light would be off too.
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:57.840
Like she was like, We need to save on electricity, and I'm like, Yeah, okay, let me just you're gonna have one less kid when I go down there.
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:03.440
You couldn't go down there with a flashlight or just turn the lights on for a second, uh or there was just no lights down there at all.
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:05.280
No, there was one light.
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:16.800
Oh, that's even worse, and it was right at the very end of like where the so you have the stairs, and to the left there was a crawl space, which was already creepy enough as is.
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:17.199
Yeah.
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:25.360
Then you go more forward, there was the iron, the real iron cat like boiler for heating up the house back in the day.
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.480
Because I think the house was from like the early 1900s or something like that.
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:28.960
Yeah.
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:35.679
And then way further down was the only accessible thing for the washer and dryer.
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:44.480
And I was like, and right above it was like, you know, your typical basement, like you got the light bulb and the little like the little thing that's hanging in.
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:48.559
And yeah, and so there was no light source up until you got down there.
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:53.519
So yeah, if we had a flashlight, I would use it, but until that, I was like, no, I don't want to do it.
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:55.360
She didn't care though.
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.000
She was an adult.
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:57.840
She was like, that stuff don't scare me.
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.159
I ain't afraid of no ghost.
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.440
I don't know if the paranormal movies really scare me either.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:08.079
I mean, it's just the jump scare aspect because it's again like paranormal stuff to me.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.599
Like black phone would scare me, but that's a little bit different than paranormal.
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.480
Yeah, and I mean none of the Jigsaw movies scare me because that's just gore.
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.760
Yeah, and they need to end that story.
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:29.679
Yeah, they keep they keep uh the only one I think was actually a pretty good refresher is it was called Spiral, and it had Chris Rock and Terry Cruz in it.
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.360
Yeah, that one looked interesting.
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.039
Yeah, that one was actually pretty good, but then it just like, and then I think they made another one after that, and it was just like ugh, because there was one scene.
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.800
Because they keep going like back in time, because Jigsaw is technically dead, right?
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.400
Yeah, he's dead, and so it's like his his apprentice or something like that, too.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.239
I think is in the newest one.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:54.639
Yeah, but they keep wanting, they want to keep that actor in the movie, so they keep going like back in time now, and it's like just end the series, like 10 movies.
00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:00.639
Or it's just the same stuff, like, oh, you know, there's a key in your ankle, you have to cut yourself open with this chainsaw.
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.360
If you don't do it before the timer ends, you will die.
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.960
And it's just like you're gonna die of blood loss anyway, at that point.
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.280
But it's like this is so dumb.
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:15.599
But like, I get the first couple ones because it was like, you know, they base it off like I think all of them are based off it.
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:21.039
It's like you get a guy that, like, I don't know, I guess he committed tax fraud or something stupid.
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:28.880
Or he like he beat up an innocent man or like sent him to court, sent him to jail, even though he was the one that was guilty kind of thing.
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.119
And then it's like, oh well, now you're paying the price.
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.559
Let's see how you feel when you're committed of guiltiness or something.
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:35.679
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:41.519
Uh like, but it's just all gore, and it's just like that's not scary, it's just gross.
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.840
Yeah, I yeah, it is, it is.
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:49.199
Uh so anyway, she says, I walked for almost an hour before a truck stopped.
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.000
The driver took me to a ranger station.
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.480
Excuse me, the rangers searched for Alex for two days.
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:02.880
They found his backpack, they found his jacket, they found our original trail, but they never found him.
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.039
Here's the part I can't explain.
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.880
When I got home, I looked through the pictures we'd taken that morning.
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.599
There was one photograph from the trailhead.
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.239
Alex was standing beside the wooden sign.
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:20.639
I was behind beside him, and behind us, between the trees, was the same thin man I'd seen earlier.
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.519
Except he wasn't looking at the camera.
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.440
He was looking at Alex.
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:26.159
Ooh.
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.360
And Alex was looking directly at him.
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.119
Like he knew him.
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.079
I haven't spoken to Alex since, but three weeks ago I received a text from his phone.
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.480
It said, You left me there.
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.639
Then another man came through.
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.880
You weren't no, another oh, another one, another text is what it's saying.
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.000
Another text came to you.
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:47.840
You weren't supposed to find the road.
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.000
And then one final message.
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.880
He says you still owe him company.
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.760
Oh, because of the cabin.
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.760
Because like he was like saying, like, when they got to the cabin, like we could.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.639
Stay here.
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.360
Yeah.
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:03.920
He says you still owe him company.
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.079
So here's my question.
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.199
Was Alex actually trying to leave me in the woods?
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.440
Or was he already something else by the time we reached that cabin?
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.679
Because I've been thinking about something ever since.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.639
The warning didn't say don't follow the man.
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.960
It said don't follow.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.840
Wait, the warning didn't say don't follow the man.
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.760
It said don't follow the man.
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.960
That doesn't make any sense.
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.559
Maybe the man wasn't the thing I was supposed to be afraid of.
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.400
Maybe he was trying to warn me about my boyfriend.
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.480
Or the boyfriend just set it all up because he's done this multiple times.
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:41.599
Could be.
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:45.119
It's still weird though that he waited three years to do this.
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.159
Because you would think, because most Yeah, but maybe he's like dating other people on the side and doing that.
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:50.719
I guess.
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:51.519
You could think.
00:44:51.679 --> 00:45:04.159
Well, because like, okay, as an example, I know we like talked about serial killers and stuff, but like Ted Bundy, what he would do is he would try to lure like women like by faking like crutches or something with his Volkswagen Beetle.
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:12.960
And then he would get them to like get in the car, but he would, you know, obviously like uh what do you call it incapacitate them, like to where they were unconscious and stuff like that.
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:27.119
Um other times I think he went on a game show, or not a game show, a dating show, like how they used to have back in the day, where you'd be like, Oh, you know, here's this girl, her name is Susie, and you know, she's 29 and single and ready to mingle.
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:32.960
And then you'd have like six guys all sitting up in a booth, and like, but they'd have a cover so she couldn't see what they looked like.
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.599
She'd just hear the voices, and then she picked somebody.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:45.119
Apparently, Ted Bundy or somebody got like, or I think it was, I think it was Ted Bundy, he got picked because she really liked the way that he was funny and charming and everything like that.
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:52.000
And then, like, she said later on in the day, like he like made her feel uncomfortable.
00:45:52.079 --> 00:46:01.039
And so before they actually went out on their date, so she bailed last second, but like she survived because he was obviously planning on killing her that night.
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.400
Oh, yeah, I did hear something about that where like she didn't go on the date.
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:29.199
So, like, I'm thinking like maybe that's this case where like, or like what you said too, is maybe he's dating multiple people, and he this is just something he does as he he takes him on this old this romantic hiking trail, and it's like four or five hours on this path, and there's a sign that he conveniently goes by every time that says, Don't follow the man, and then there's a cabin that he just conveniently knows where that's at.
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.440
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.920
Yeah, so that that's where I'm thinking.
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:39.199
Well, that then that raises the question is if there is still serial killers around.
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:48.639
Probably, and Montana would be the place to do it because it's bare there, or the Appalachian Mountains or Appalachian or whatever you however your pronunciation of it is.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.159
Yeah, but that one's obvious.
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.599
That is true at this point.
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.440
Anything could happen up there.
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.760
Yeah, I mean, mountains in general are just creepy, they're just so dense.
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:02.480
Well, even like probably what Yellowstone National Park, you could probably get away with stuff there too.
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:09.519
Maybe not have a cabin out there, unless you're a park ranger, but you could probably find like a cave or something like that or do whatever.
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.760
Sounds like you do this on the regular.
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:12.639
I do.
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.679
I'm just saying though, it's like it nothing's impossible.
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:25.360
But yeah, it just it to me it seems weird that he would just like try to lure her and then yeah, and then it's like this is three years later, and now what?
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.519
So what are they just like broken up now?
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.360
Like what right because he's I would block him though after all of that.
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:37.199
If I but the amount of stuff you'd know about each other after three years, like he can find her anywhere, right?
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:44.719
Unless, well, unless she moved probably out of state and got a new number and all that other crap that some people do when they break up.
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.159
I mean, I thought about after all my exes, I was like, maybe she just get another number.
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.039
But I'm like, I just have them deleted and blocked.
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.960
So I mean that that just kind of solves that issue.
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.400
Yes, it does.
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.719
Yeah, I think this guy probably has done this multiple times, or maybe he just likes playing the long game.
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:13.599
Like he tried, he actually like, Oh yeah, I like I love her and all this other stuff, and then we're like, But I'm a really good killer, you know, the long game, yeah.
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.800
The long game, and uh yeah, because the the cabin is what really got me.
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.840
Because I was like thinking, I'm like, maybe with the sign, I'm like, oh you know, you know, a little prank or something like that.
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:33.760
Somebody wrote something stupid to scare people, but then when the cabin came around, that's when it was like okay, he just conveniently stumbles upon a cabin.
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.519
Yeah, and it's right by a tree that's fallen down.
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:45.039
Like he probably was like more landmark-oriented at that point, and he's like, Oh, look, you ain't waiting here for an hour.
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.719
Like, okay, dude.
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:47.280
Yeah.
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:55.760
And then the truck driver comes and picks up the girl, and I guarantee you, if she would have probably like a typical horror movie moment, like she gets picked up by the truck driver.
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:02.239
Just imagine it, and like in the woods, you just see like two glowing eyes like staring right at her in the truck.
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.920
It is Stephan, this is a story, not a movie.
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.239
I know glowing eyes in the truck.
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.079
I'm just saying, skinwalker.
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.679
Could have been a skinwalker.
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.639
Yeah, but I thought that was what didn't go out west.
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.639
I thought that was just the Appalachian or whatever mountains.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.239
No, it's like Native American folk.
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.519
No, that's Windigo.
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:22.639
Maybe Skinwalkers.
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.239
Oh, yeah, no, skinwalkers, same thing.
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.760
It's kind of like Windigo and Skinwalker are kind of like same things.
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.360
Don't say they're the same thing.
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:30.559
Kind of ish.
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:38.079
They can morph themselves and like the because the Windigo used people's voices to manipulate, and then the skinwalkers can actually change form.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.599
They can actually change form, yeah.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.159
But it's more they're both Native American related.
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.440
I think skinwalkers though aren't like like Windigos are more cannibalistic, is how it happens.
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:51.280
And then like a skinwalker is just like a thing that they could just do.
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.519
Yeah, a freak, a freak bob.
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:55.280
Okay.
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:06.239
Well, I mean, I would I I would say don't uh for advice for her is probably not talk to this guy anymore, block him and get a new number, or if he starts stalking you, then definitely get something going.
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:16.559
Yeah, and I mean I guess her question was was he actually trying to leave me in those woods, or was he already something else by the time we reached that cabin?
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.280
I think both.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.480
I think he was trying to leave you out there to like lure you into something else.
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.920
But I also want to know who this other skinny guy in the woods is.
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.960
Why is he there?
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:39.519
Well, I think because didn't she say he's she said in the picture, like she saw like they were standing next to each other, and then he was looking, I think they were looking at something, and then he was looking at the thing, and then the thing was looking at him.
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:45.199
So it might have been like a weird entity kind of thing that's like just staring back at him.
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.920
Like should be you know, like how sometimes like with paranormal pictures, like that's scary.
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.639
Yeah, like you just all of a sudden get like a ghost that appears, like, oh, down the hallway or something like that.
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.840
But if it's an entity, it wouldn't show up in the picture.
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:04.719
It I in some form it would look like a blur, but maybe it was just I don't know, it would depend on how clear this picture is.
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:14.960
Because sometimes, like if mist or fog comes into play, like sometimes depending if it's there's a breeze or something, it could form something that looks humanoid or creature-esque, you know.
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:20.719
But other times it's like if this is just like you know, some guy in a slender man costume or something like that, yeah.
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.840
Cause the the way they make it sound like this is an actual guy in the woods.
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:39.199
And why and I it sounds like he was the barefoot one, and why is there right that where was it at the beginning of the trail where there was like boot prints and footprints, and then all of a sudden just the boot prints went on and the foot the like bare feet footprints disappeared.
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.159
So what I guess that was never mentioned again.
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.400
So that's kind of hard to I wouldn't even go back there if I were her.
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:47.440
Well, duh.
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.719
Because if they just find his backpack and stuff, but not him.
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.480
I'm like, yeah, no, he's gone.
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.719
Like, he's something else at that point.
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:57.280
Let him be a wild, like, woodsman.
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.280
Yeah, they found all that stuff, but then he also texted her, so he's still alive.
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:02.480
He's still alive, yeah.
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.840
But he's a freak.
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.559
Because he's sitting there saying, like, oh, you still owe him a visit.
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.039
And it's like, no, I don't.
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:12.159
Block.
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:22.079
Yeah, that yeah, that that I'm sorry, but if I if I experience what she experienced, and then I get a text message from that person, you're done.
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.800
Like, I ain't talking to you ever again.
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.360
What if she's really hot though?
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.199
And uh, and after three years.
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.719
Oh, yeah, you know what?
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:33.679
Yeah, right, yeah.
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:34.800
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.760
I knew you'd cave, Stephen.
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.039
That's true.
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.199
Manhood at its finest.
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.400
Um, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty obvious one.
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:45.440
I would stay away.
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:46.320
I would too.
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:47.119
Screw that.
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.039
Let him be a freak out in the woods.
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:50.320
Yeah, for real.
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.400
All right, you got anything else?
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:56.000
Um, the orange aid was very good.
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.159
And as always, my mocho mango was good as well.
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:01.199
Absolutely.
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.320
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.079
No, I didn't.
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:06.639
Oh, no.
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.239
Because your face jittered.
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.280
You're like you're like, oh.
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.079
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:12.960
Shut up, I love you.
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All right.
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Not yet.
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Welcome back, everybody, to the Digital Fire podcast.
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It's Caleb.
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And Stefan.
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And we're gonna crack a cold one with the boys.
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That was that was perfectly in sync.
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Boy, am I glad we started because I was thirsty.
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I know I was too.
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This actually tastes pretty good, the orange aid.
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It really does.
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It's it's I mean, it's like uh I don't know what you would call it.
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I mean, obviously it tastes like orange, you know, hence orange aid.
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Yeah.
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But it also has like a different twist.
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Like it's not orange juice.
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It's like something else mixed in with it.
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And it actually tastes really good.
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Well, I would hope it's not orange juice.
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Orange aid is like orange is like the orange lemonade version.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I maybe it is like lemonade mixed in with it a little bit because it does feel like it's got like that lemony flavor, too.
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Let's see here.
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Let's take a look, ladies and gentlemen.
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Arizona tea fax.
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I was so upset though, because they didn't have my uh black and white tea.
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So I was like, yeah, I'll just I'll just settle for like a green tea and then I'll get like uh an orange aid.
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I never seen it and tried it, but I always love Arizona's like flavors when they come out.
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Because you never know if like a new flavor is gonna be good.
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Yeah.
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Is that new orange aid or has it been around?
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I think it's probably been around, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
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It it's good either way.
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Like I like it.
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I'd probably pick it up.
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Orange aid is a sweet and tangy citrus drink made by combining orange juice with water and sugar.
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So I guess that it is kind of like orange juice, but they add they probably water it down a little bit, and then add sugar, is what it sounds like.
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Which is not bad.
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No, and surprisingly, per serving is 90 calories compared to green tea, which is 130.
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Which I don't know how they do that.
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But maybe it's just because it's literally like what you said, it's orange juice and watered down.
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Yeah.
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And then they just add a little bit more sugar in it.
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Yeah.
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Or a lot of bit sugar.
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Or a lot of it.
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Yeah, that's true.
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A lot of it.
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Oh my goodness.
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Oh, wait, hold on.
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I gotta connect my phone.
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Oh, I was gonna tell you too.
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Uh, I applied at Men's Warehouse as a store manager, so hopefully something comes up.
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Because I still got I'm supposedly hearing from this hospital gig.
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Um, hopefully this week at some point.
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They said it might take like about a week, week and a half.
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So I was like, yeah, that's fine.
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I don't care.
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As long as I hear back, even if I don't get the job, I'm like, that's fine.
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But apparently they said green check marks all the way around.
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What was that?
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Just testing out the things.
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Yes, anyway, I heard green check marks.
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Yeah, green check marks all the way around.
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They said, and the interview went good.
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It lasted the 20 minutes.
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And so if the hospital job is going well, why are you applying that?
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Oh, I'm just applying just in case.
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Like, I don't hear anything, or if it falls through, like I'd rather because I just want to get out of my current job.
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I do.
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It's time for a change to get a big boy job.
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Even men's warehouse, though, like it's you're you're getting paid.
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I think you get commission per suit you sell.
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So you start off obviously as a base pay, but then you get like commission, which I'm like, that's not bad.
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And you probably get a discount.
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All right, I I'm pretty sure that you would get a discount on suits.
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Yeah, that or like maybe what they do is like I don't know if all car dealerships do this, but if like you're a car salesman and they're like, Yeah, you know, uh how do you feel about getting uh you see that car right there?
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If you can sell me a if you can sell a car right now, like I'll give you that car, it'll be on the house.
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Because some dealerships do do that.
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Like, um, I know my stepmom forever ago, she actually got a free car from a car dealership because she became a car salesman.
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And um yeah, they just said, like, yeah, if you can sell me like five cars like this month or something like that, then I'll just that car's yours.
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I'm like, cool.
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Oh, so I mean maybe Well, you'd probably also have to wear a suit every day for work.
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I'd be fine with that.
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So if you're okay with that, then cool.
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Yeah, I I would honestly, if it if I did work at a car dealership, I'd probably work at a Honda dealership because I'd either want a new Honda Accord or try out a new Honda Civic.
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They're not gonna give you a new car, Stefan, for free.
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Imagine.
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Yeah, I mean, we can imagine, and that's cool, but right, but still, that would be but you probably get like a stupid good discount on like either your monthly payments or just the car price at all.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, you'd hope.
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Yeah, I mean, I could sell a Honda, no problem, because I already know everything about Hondas since I've had like three, but then also I know other people that have had Hondas that I've helped out on, so it's like pretty nice.
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Yeah, it is pretty nice, it is pretty nice.
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All right, do we want to get started?
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I think we do, but before we do that, Caleb, we have to jump in.
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A little bit of excitement on pushing that button.
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I know.
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I kind of wanted to try saying the whole, like, but Caleb, we have to jump in.
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Okay, so this one this one is actually from Reddit.
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Ooh.
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I don't know.
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This guy, 20.
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I'm 21.
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So the guy she's seeing is 20, and she's 21.
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And she says he keeps meowing.
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All right, off to a great start.
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I was thinking the same thing.
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So it's been quite some time since I've been seeing this guy.
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Oh, and and mind you, this one is a little bit shorter, but right.
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And initially I was into him, but lately I've been finding him pretty annoying.
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So I was gonna say she she was into him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, she says initially I was into him.
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Okay, so that should answer her question.
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Right! Because like if if it if it's I was into him.
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It's not like I am into him, but yeah, it's yeah, exactly.
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There's still the but, but it was I was into him.
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But lately I've been finding him pretty annoying.
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We've only met in real life thrice, which means three times.
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Yeah, and I hate when people say thrice.
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This person like the regular my baby's like 32 months old.
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It's like that, it's like gross.
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And each time he does something that seriously angers me and later apologizes for it.
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Oh, but if he keeps apologizing for it, is he really sorry if he keeps doing it?
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Yeah, seriously.
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This guy, this guy's an issue already.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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She's got the cat in the bag.
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But I have that.
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Oh, you do?
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There you go.
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A little too fast, but yeah.
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I know he I know he has a bit of a meowing problem, as I like to call it.
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He meows every now and then, and I think it is either to seem cute or to get out of difficult conversations.
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Either way, talking to him didn't help at all.
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Recently, we went out and he, of course, meowed at every inconvenience, tried to make biscuits on my thighs, and in general, just tried being very feline.
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That's crazy.
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You know what making biscuits?
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Yeah, it's like when they do like the stretch their paws out for no reason.
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Yeah, but I yeah, but for no reason, Stefan.
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They're just doing it.
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What other reason does a cat stretch?
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They just well, don't you want to stretch?
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Yeah, but I don't make biscuits on people's well for him, it's crazy, but like a cat doing it on like a couch or something, it's normal.
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Yeah, like well, yeah, it's an animal.
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You said they do it for no reason, so I'm challenging that.
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Oh, are you?
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Yeah, challenge accepting.
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I kind of want to know though, what originated that saying of making biscuits.
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Because it it looks like they're like kneading dough.
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Oh pushing, pushing the dough.
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But it's really yeah, probably.
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I see it now.
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That's that's what I would think.
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Um, otherwise, I don't know where it comes from.
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That's my only guess.
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You know what is pretty funny is my brother's got five cats, right?
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Five?
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Yeah, he's got two kittens and three adult cats.
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And when Tyrone, Tyrone's my favorite, because what would be funny is when I live with my brother, I'd be playing my video games upstairs after me and like John would get done playing like Fortnite or something, and I go play Sonic.
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And he would just stand right or he'd stare right in front of the TV, right next to me, get all cuddled up, and he just watched me play.
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He would stare, no joke, at the TV and watch me play Sonic the Hedgehog for whatever reason.
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He would be glued onto it.
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Maybe he saw them as at their animals.
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That's true.
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And it was funny though, because is there any cat characters in Sonic?
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Blaze.
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Blaze the cat.
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She's like purple.
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Oh, I forgot what she looks like.
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I'm more of a hedgehog guy.
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I like Silver.
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Silver's my favorite, but he's not in this game.
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No, I was just saying because if a cat's watching you play the game.
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Oh, yeah, like if there's like another animal in there.
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Yeah, because that's what you're talking about, right?
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A cat would just sit there and watch.
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Yeah, he was just watching me play Sonic.
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I think it was just because Sonic's in the in the game, he's just moving around, then you obviously collect rings like normal Sonic.
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Oh, yeah.
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But it was funny because there was one time he was he was making biscuits.
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Like I was just laying down after playing the game, and he was making biscuits on my chest or whatever.
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And I just like he loves getting his butt patted.
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So I just like smack his butt, and right as he's like pre-doing like the making biscuits motion, and there was one time I think it just it caught him off guard, and you just felt the claw go like he didn't do it intentionally, he just got scared and then he scampered off.
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But he didn't mind it though, because he would just sit there and keep making biscuits while I pat his butt.
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He was a weird, he's a weird cat, but I love him.
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He's he's like my favorite cat that my brother owns.
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Is he still here?
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Yeah, he's still here.
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He's like uh five years old now.
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Oh, okay.
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That's not bad.
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Yeah, not because cats live to be like 20.
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Yeah.
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Park Ranger is the oldest one.
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I think he's like over 10 or 11 now.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, he's old.
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He's fat though.
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He was a fat boy.
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But he also likes to get into human food too when nobody's looking.
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So there's that's I'm sure a lot of them do if they could.
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Oh, yeah, 100%.
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Except for we used to have these two cats at work, and one of them was fatter because he always went for the food.
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You had a cat too, right?
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Wasn't it a tabby?
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It was a tabby named Toby.
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That's what it was.
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His name was is Toby.
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Yeah, he would, but he was crazy.
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Yeah, didn't he like claw at random people and like hate everybody?
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Yeah, it was weird.
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It's like your sister, Bethany.
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She probably listens to this, doesn't she?
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No, she doesn't listen to this.
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Are you kidding me?
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She wouldn't listen to this.
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No, but you remember she'd just scream.
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You'd hear from upstairs.
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It's like, oh my god.
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Yeah, that cat was crazy.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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She ends it with, I'm just very confused with the entire situation.
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Is this normal behavior, or am I just being a hater?
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Clearly, it's not that normal.
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I think if it was like every once in a while, it'd be funny, but if he's doing it as much as much as she says that he's doing it, like at inconvenient times and everything like that.
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I okay.
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There is a guy, this is this is related obviously to the story.
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There was a guy named Uli that used to work at my store or whatever, and he he used to go, meow, like every two seconds.
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This guy.
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If I was talking to him, like mid-conversation, go meow, like out of nowhere, or I'd be putting away parts being meow.
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I just hear it every two seconds.
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I'm like, I would have lost my mind.
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Oh, I did.
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I was like, bro, can you not?
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Like, I I was just so annoyed, and then he just and then he was like, okay.
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So then he started doing it once in a while, and it was like more what do you call it?
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Like, it was just easier to deal with.
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Yeah, you could deal with it a little bit more better.
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But yeah, if it was like that, where it's like once in a while, it's like cool, you know, whatever.
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But yeah, like in her case, it seems like it's like every two seconds, or he's just doing it to get out of like an argument, which is exactly crazy.
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Yeah, you shouldn't, obviously.
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Um, and they're still young, you know, 20, 21.
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So it's not like she's what kind of what what's the generational thing that they're called?
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Like Gen X or something like that?
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Like they're they're youngs, is what I call them.
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I think they would be like tail end of Gen Z.
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Probably.
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Gen X, I think, is like my parents.
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No, I called them boomers.
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My dad, I know my dad's a boomer for a hundred percent.
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He's 74 now.
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Still kicking it, man.
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I'm telling you.
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I'm gonna be 34 this year.
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Oh, I'm old.
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But I think we're called millennials.
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Yeah, we're millennials.
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Yeah, and then after Gen Z is um because it's millennials, then Gen Z is the generation below us, then it's Gen Alpha, and then Gen Beta is being born now.
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So, like some of some of Gen Alpha is starting to drive, which I think is crazy.
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That is crazy.
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Like your nephew Parker.
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My dude, my nephew's like 22.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, we used to bully him.
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That was great.
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Yeah, we already had that conversation.
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We did.
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I still love it though.
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Yeah, with these guys being what, 20 and 21?
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20 and 21.
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Yeah, they're and it says that what is what did she say?
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We've only met thrice.
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That's what she says.
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So they've only met three times in person, so I don't see why she's even questioning.
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Like, I would just be done with that at that point.
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Yeah, because there's not really like an emotional connection, right?
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He's meowing if you find it that annoying already, yeah, then you gotta go.
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Yeah, if it's like 10 years down the line and it's like you're just starting to get annoyed by it, that's one thing.
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But if you're already annoyed after three times, right, and then has she even like talked to him about it?
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That's yeah, she said.
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Oh, yeah, she did.
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What did she say?
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Yeah, because she said like when they argue and stuff like that, like maybe the argument's like part of it.
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Uh he meows.
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Well, she I don't know.
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Because if she just mentions it.
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Oh, yeah, she said either way, talking to him didn't help at all.
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Okay, yeah.
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So then at that, yeah, then she just leave the guy at this point.
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Yeah, if you've only met three times, it's like it's you gotta be over.
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Because obviously he's it's weird because like females mature a lot, I think, faster than males in general, yeah.
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Yeah, so it's like he's still in that stage where he's like still obviously in his 20s or whatever, so he's young or like early 20s, like I wait, he's 20, right?
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20, she's 21.
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Okay, so yeah, he's 20, he's just barely an adult, he's still a baby, same as her, but like, you know, yeah, but women's uh brains like mature a lot faster, like they already kind of know what they want, and then but they can also still be, you know, childish to a degree, yeah.
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And but a 20-year-old male does not need to be meowing that much, like at that point, he can yeah, like yeah, he is considered young, but you're not that young to be walking around meowing.
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Right, like if he was 10, yeah, 10, but even 10, yeah, but like if you're younger than 10, I think it's somewhat plausible for like, oh yeah, they're gonna be a kid, they're annoying.
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But yeah, you're over the age of 18, you're an adult now.
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Yeah, it's time to it's time to grow up and like get over it.
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Like, again, once in a while, fine.
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But like if you're just gonna do it consistently, like that's kind of crazy.
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Very crazy.
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Are you cold or something?
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It's a little chilly.
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Oh, geez, I brought my hoodie just in case because I was like, it's starting to get to that nice fall weather where it's like sweater weather.
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I know.
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I wish it would just stay like this and not come, not go to winter.
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That's what I'm saying, man.
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We need like a state that does that where it's like fall all year round.
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Yeah, we're not gonna find that.
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Just nowhere on this earth, nowhere on this planet exists like that.
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It's either gonna be like hot for part, maybe.
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Ireland would probably be the only state I think or state, the only area that like would probably have that.
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Maybe the only problem with the UK and Ireland and all that area, maybe not Ireland, but I know at least like UK, Scotland, is like it seems like it rains a lot.
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I would be fine with rain over like snow that we get here in Michigan.
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Yeah, but I mean, imagine not seeing the sun for that long.
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That is true.
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Well, Alaska goes like what, six months without the sun?
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Or it goes, no, it goes six months with the sun.
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Well, it goes there's a one winter month where you have like 28 days with pretty much no sun.
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Yeah.
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And then you have one summer month where it's like all sun.
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All sun.
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No matter if it's 5 a.m.
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It never fully set, yeah.
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That would drive me crazy.
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Yeah, it does drive people crazy.
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5 a.m.
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and it's just still like it's like 12 in the afternoon.
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Well, it does move across the sky, like it kind of like is like almost like a sunset for part of it.
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Like it doesn't, it's not like just stay in one spot, it does go down a little bit, but it's and that's also not all of Alaska.
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There's only like certain areas that do that.
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Annika just got back from Alaska not too long ago, too.
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Really?
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Yeah, I don't know what part, I don't know if she was in Anchorage or if she was in like Gnome or something like that, but like where where they were staying at, their cabin, it was like for a mission trip.
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Um but it was pretty nice wherever they were at.
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It was like out in the woods and like no snow or anything like that.
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It was just like she goes, dude, it was nice.
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I was like, Well, yeah, Alaska's really nice in the summer, yeah.
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And it's because it never gets like super hot, but man, the winter.
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Yeah, that's brutal.
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You it's like survival at that point.
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I mean, I know there's like Fairbanks.
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How cold does Fairbanks get?
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I don't know.
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I gotta look it up.
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Then this is an awe of Alaska.
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Fairbanks is weird, yeah.
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I'm just kind of like a guy meowing consistently is weird.
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That would, dude.
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I'm like, I don't oh my god, I'd just be so tempted to punch that kid in the face.
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Fairbanks gets to negative 40.
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Negative 40?
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Anyway, yes, let's get back to the you're right.
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Let's get back to the uh ideal.
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Really?
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Not obviously really, but like you, I can't believe you said that.
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I know prison.
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It's metaphorically speaking, or not metaphorically, what is it?
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Figuratively, figuratively, yeah, figuratively speaking, because it's just that would just annoy me.
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And especially if they if they the difference is too, is like if they're doing it and they don't realize, but you can tell it's the they actually don't realize, then it's like yes, it's annoying as crap, but it's like whatever.
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But then if they act like they don't, but really you can see them like looking at you like they're doing it intentionally, but they're acting dumb, that's the part that would annoy the crap out of me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's where I'd be like, yeah, dude, we're done.
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But yeah, again, for them meaning thrice, yeah, you know, I would say just drop the dude, find somebody else that maybe barks.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I mean, it's that's that's a pretty given, it's a pretty given one.
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Maybe she's a dog person.
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Maybe she is.
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I'm surprised I never saw that on the comments.
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Like, maybe you just need to find a dog guy.
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Right.
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You would think some guy, some some guy that's just like single and like clever, and you're just like, maybe she'll like the funny guy.
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That's me.
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I always make jokes, and then people like me.
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And I pray that I can meet someone thinks I'm funny.
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No, no, you gotta get the I gotta get the Riz.
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Yeah, I haven't heard too many people say Riz.
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I haven't really heard that either lately.
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I think maybe it's is it like maybe a dying word, like kind of like pwned, like back in the day?
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I think Gen Z is on its way out.
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Probably.
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I think you know, like, because back when yeah, like pwned and bet and fam were like words of millennials.
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I still hear bet, but I don't hear fam as much, and I don't hear like owned or pwned.
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Yeah, but is definitely old.
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That's back when me and you were kids.
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Yeah, but gen like Riz is Gen Z language, and uh you know, it's Gen Z is becoming lame.
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One new one I just heard was one new one I just heard, it's from a video, and it's hilarious.
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Is uh it's from a streamer, and he goes, Not gonna like one of his commenter goes like not gonna lie, I'm gonna take a nap, let me know.
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And then he goes, Let you know what?
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I guess like it's just the funniest thing ever.
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His name is Lowe's or something like that, but he's that is hilarious, and then some guy like like I guess it just blew up after that one clip that he did, and it dude, it's hilarious.
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I'll have to show you it like after the podcast because we always look up stuff after the podcast.
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Uh here's to forgetting.
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Do you want to move on to number two?
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Woo! Whoa.
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I need you to tell me if I'm being paranoid.
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Paranoid.
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Paranoid, paranoid, paranoid, being paranoid.
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This one's
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Reminds me of the iCarly.
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What was it?
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The iPair or something like that they did.
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It was like the Apple phone parody.
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Yeah, the pear.
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It was the pear phone, the iPair.
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Yeah, the iPair.
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Then they had a pear top or something like that, too.
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Man.
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Man, the parodies go hard, you know, for stuff.
00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.160
Well, you said parodies.
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Oh, I didn't even realize that.
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Oh, the way you said it, it made I thought you purposely said it like that, and I was like, okay, I'll let you have that one.
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Oh, no, I didn't even realize.
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Either way, she's paranoid.
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Looks like we have two women writing in this today.
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My boyfriend and I went hiking in northern Montana last October.
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Why a year ago?
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Why are you riding this now?
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Maybe they just discovered us.
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I guess.
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We'd been dating for almost three years, and he'd been talking about this trail for months.
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He said it was remote, beautiful, and that we'd probably have the whole mountain to ourselves.
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Whatever that means.
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Yeah.
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It's either a threat or it's like a good time.
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Yeah.
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This sounds scary already.
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Right.
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The last part turned out to be true.
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We parked beside an old forest road just after sunrise.
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There were no other cars, no cell service, just pine trees, gray mountains, and this enormous silence that made every little sound seem wrong.
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Are they in their car?
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Like, I'm just wondering because it just is reminding me.
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You know that scene in Monsters versus Aliens where it's like you hear jerk you hear Journeys like, uh, look, who's crying now, or whatever?
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Like, yeah, well, I forget the lyric part where then he's like, Don't rush me, Katie.
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I'm just not ready.
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Like it's literally Journey's like Who's Crying Now is the name of the song, but I'm just picturing that because it's like out in the open next to a dirt road.
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Because that's the exact setting that that scene was in.
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Looks like we gotta look that up too.
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I know because I don't remember it.
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Just a random thought.
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It's it's hilarious.
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So uh, and this enormous silence made every little sound seem wrong.
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My boyfriend was excited.
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I remember thinking that was strange because I was nervous.
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He told me that the hike would take four hours, maybe five.
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Whoa.
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Whoa, that's technically that's kind of a short hike in today's, you know, when when we've got like my buddy Ethan, you know Ethan.
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:35.519
Oh yeah, he's isn't he doing Mount uh not Mount Chili Head?
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What is that?
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What is it?
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Mount uh what mountain range is he doing?
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He's doing the Pacific Crest Trail, so it goes from the bottom part of California to Washington State.
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Mount Chili Head.
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Mount Chili Head.
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I want to go to Mount Chili Head.
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There's gotta be one somewhere, right?
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Either in America or in the world, and I gotta go now.
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Oh my gosh.
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At the trailhead, there was an old wooden sign with the trail name carved into it.
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Underneath, someone had scratched a warning into the wood.
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Don't follow the man.
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Okay, here I go.
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Yeah, she says, I laughed when I saw it.
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Yeah, I laughed when I saw it.
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He didn't, and he is uh her boyfriend is what What if he's the man?
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What if he's the man?
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He stared at the words for a few seconds and then said, probably some idiot trying to scare tourists.
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We started walking for the first two hours.
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Everything was normal.
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Then I noticed the footprints.
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Well, you can have footprints on a trail at any time at any time.
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:46.079
Well, you think they sweep off like everything at the end of every day.
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Uh every day, some guy goes out there with a groom.
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That's funny.
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There were two sets in the mud ahead of us.
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Two sets of footprints.
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One belonged to hiking boots, the other looked like bare feet.
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Still not that weird because some people go hiking with bare feet.
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:05.920
That's very crazy, though.
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They're out there.
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They're they're callus on the bottom of their feet, must be really good in order for them not to feel anything.
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Because I would feel like if I went barefoot hiking, like I'm gonna be in agonizing pain on my feet because the pebbles and like the sharp little rocks and sticks and like even a bug, like just feeling that like little squish.
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:33.680
Just like, ugh, you know, like I'd hate it, but like it's just like, oh, do you have that thing like with seaweed and like grass?
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Like when you go into a lake when it brushes against your like foot or anything like that.
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Why?
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Like it just like I hate the feeling of like seaweed.
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Oh, yeah, so do I.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I there's no way.
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Like, I could tolerate walking barefoot on a trail than I would like, oh yeah, this is the great seaweed lake, and then it's just nothing but seaweed, and they're like, Go on in, it feels great.
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.160
No, it's all murky, yeah.
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I hate it, and then it gets caught and it just wraps around your foot.
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You feel like a fish just is curling in between.
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I'm like, ugh.
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Yeah, it is not a good feeling.
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.000
I have that too.
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I pointed them out, I was told not to worry about it.
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A little farther up, the bear footprints disappeared, the boot prints continued.
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.480
Then maybe 20 minutes later, I saw something between the trees.
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Here we go.
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Oh boy.
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.240
It was a man.
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He was standing a man, or not the man.
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No man.
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His twin brother.
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He was standing about 50 yards away.
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He was incredibly thin and completely still.
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I grabbed my boyfriend's arm.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.880
There's someone over there.
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He looked.
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The man was gone.
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You're seeing things, he said.
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I wanted to believe him.
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We kept going.
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About an hour later, we stopped.
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Checked our phone.
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No signal.
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I know.
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He looked around.
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Then he said something he then he said something that still bothers me.
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I think we missed the turn.
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Are you scared yet?
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Shaking in my boots.
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I reminded him that he'd been here before.
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He said, Yeah, I know.
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Then he turned us around.
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We walked back for 15 minutes before I realized something.
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We weren't following the same trail.
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Uh oh.
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Uh-oh.
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I could tell.
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Just the little uh uh.
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.720
I could tell because we'd passed a fallen tree earlier.
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It had a huge split running down the middle.
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Almost like lightning had struck it.
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The tree wasn't.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.640
Oh, I feel like that pig in that movie.
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The big explosion.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.480
The tree wasn't there anymore.
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It was just, it's because he gets so huge.
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It's like instant.
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.160
And then they just go on like nothing happened.
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:05.519
Like that wasn't abnormal.
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.680
Well, why did that happen?
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.200
Was he like drinking soda or something?
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.000
I think he like ate like some bomb or something like that.
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:20.799
Like it was like a bomb pie, like a sp like the SpongeBob episode where it's like they eat like uh, oh, these aren't pies, these are bombs from a bomb factory.
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.559
They're bombs.
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.480
I think that's literally the whole premise of it.
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.079
I could be wrong.
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:38.000
But yeah, so yeah, anyway, we're the thing that we're talking about is when the pig in barnyard walks into the barn with all the people and he just like just basically explodes.
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.599
Yeah, but he's he's still alive and he just goes back down to normal sides.
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:43.279
Funny, you should check it out.
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.839
Um, so anyway, there was uh the tree wasn't there anymore.
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.680
Instead, there was a different fallen tree.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.240
Ooh.
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.400
That's when I started getting scared.
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.519
Oh no, it says my boyfriend insisted it was the same one.
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.720
I'm trying to leave names out.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.039
Oh that's why I keep saying my boyfriend or he.
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.319
Oh, does it actually say like full doc's name and everything like that?
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.039
Yeah, and I don't wanna we don't want we don't want to completely dock.
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.880
So maybe I'll just replace it with like some random name.
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:19.920
That's when I started getting scared of him referring to her boyfriend because he is insisting that it's the same tree.
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.640
So she thinks that maybe he's the man.
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.640
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.559
Not the woods, him.
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.519
Because every time I asked where we were, he'd say almost there, but he never said where there was.
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.640
Oh eventually we reached a clearing.
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.359
Very there was an old hunting cabin in the middle of it.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.599
It looked abandoned for decades.
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:54.559
I asked Alex if we'd seen Alex.
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.160
Yeah, that's a pretty common name.
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.440
I asked Alex if we'd seen it on the way in.
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:00.880
He said no.
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.039
Then he walked toward it.
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.400
I stayed behind.
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:05.759
He opened the door.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.559
Come on! I asked him why.
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.640
I hope he didn't say it like that.
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.160
That would scare me.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:12.799
That wouldn't.
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.000
And his like sh teeth get sharp and he like his eyes turned red.
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:17.839
He's like a skinwalker.
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.480
Oh my yeah, that one.
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:21.039
Yeah.
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.279
I hate I hate those stories.
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:24.000
Same.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:25.039
They're scary.
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:25.920
They are, dude.
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.039
Some of them are really good though.
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.000
Like I listened to another podcast that like has like nothing but Windigo stories and skinwalker stuff.
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.920
Dude, they're creepy.
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.079
The atmosphere is really good too.
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:36.720
Woo!
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:37.440
I know.
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.039
Is that the one that you sent me?
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.119
No, there's like a maybe.
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.599
It was like forever ago that I might have sent it to you.
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.440
But yeah, oh, is it like Mr.
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:46.240
Mr.
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.440
Nightmare or something like that?
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:48.000
Something.
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:48.559
Yeah.
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.279
Yeah.
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.680
He just looked at me because it's getting dark.
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.799
So they want to go into an abandoned cabin because it's getting dark.
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.519
Okay, got it.
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.119
I checked my phone.
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.799
It was 2 17 p.m.
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.200
We had hours of daylight left.
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.559
That's when I noticed something carved into the cabin door.
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:07.119
Oh god.
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.200
The same words from the trailhead.
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.000
Do you remember?
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.000
Don't follow the man.
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:13.839
Yes, correct.
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:18.160
Except underneath them, someone had added another sentence.
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:20.400
He brings them here.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:21.200
Oh.
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.519
I don't like this.
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.119
I don't either, but something that's just like, I don't know.
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.519
Now you never know if these stories are like real or if they're.
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:35.759
Oh, probably more believable than the guy that went into a lighthouse and then one minute a brick wall was there and then it wasn't the next.
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.359
Yeah, that one was dumb.
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.519
Ugh, that one was terrible.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.359
Yeah, if you got a scary story, don't send a fake one about a lighthouse.
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:44.319
Yeah, come on.
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.119
We want the wheel.
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.319
We need real.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.759
So underneath it says he brings them here.
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.960
So who is this that knows that this guy does this?
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:54.000
Probably the man.
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:54.559
Probably.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.880
It could be the man just setting it up to make it look like somebody else is the man.
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:03.200
And then he comes in and he's like, the hashlinging slasher.
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:04.880
Or it's Alex.
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:05.680
That's true.
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:06.559
Alex.
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.960
I told Alex I wanted to leave.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.480
He got angry.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.279
Not normal, annoyed boyfriend angry.
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.440
He looked genuinely furious.
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:16.079
Ooh.
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:23.519
He said I'd been complaining the entire hike that I'd ruined the trip, and that if I wanted to sit in the woods until dark, I could.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:25.440
How does she ruin the trip?
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:26.720
Well, he doesn't.
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:38.400
I was like, because all it said was like, yeah, they turned around, and then she was like, is that the if the tree falling versus not falling was her ruining the trip?
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.559
That's crazy work right there.
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.680
Some people are crazy.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.160
Some people let little things like that ruin stuff.
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:44.960
That is true.
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.279
Yeah, I mean that there's weird people out there.
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:48.720
Hopefully, this isn't the case.
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.039
And like maybe there's just more to the story we didn't hear about.
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.960
Like maybe they were arguing on the way there or something like that.
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.880
Yeah, because they've been together three years.
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:55.440
Right.
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.400
And it's like, how do you not know he's like this?
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.119
Like, there's no way he was able to hide who he is that long.
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:01.599
Right.
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.400
Well, you never know.
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.559
Jeffrey Dahmer did it for a while.
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.280
Yeah, but he wasn't dating, like dating one person the whole time.
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:10.880
No, he was just then again.
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.599
Hasn't there been other serial killers that are married?
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.519
Uh yeah.
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.119
Yeah, I think.
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.360
Yeah, there was oh yeah, there was the Barbie, the Barbie killers or whatever.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.920
They were like a couple that looked like literal, like perfect human beings.
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.880
Like they had no acne, they had no pimples.
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:39.679
They were that's why they were called like the Barbie couple, but they murdered people and they were married, and um they got away with it for like I think three years or four years or something like that.
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.000
Yeah, but they both did it.
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:48.480
I'm just wondering if there's a case where like oh, like where the wife or husband doesn't know that the other is like a killer or something like that.
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:49.599
Oh man.
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:56.159
There has to be because, like, yeah, Jeffrey Dahmer got away with it, but it was also like he wasn't with the same people, right?
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:57.119
It was all different.
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.519
Yeah.
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.679
And he like, I want there's gotta be.
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:06.320
There, there has to be a hundred percent like somebody that didn't know that, like, this guy's a serial killer or whatever.
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.480
Yeah, we'll we'll look it up after.
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.440
Absolutely, because that's what we always do after the podcast.
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.480
Uh so he says, and that if I wanted to sit in the woods until dark, I could.
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.079
Then he walked away.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.719
I followed him because I didn't know what else to do.
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.360
For the next hour, he barely spoke, and then he disappeared.
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:25.840
Ooh.
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.320
One second he was 20 feet ahead of me.
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.239
The next he was gone.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.079
I screamed his name.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:32.800
Alex.
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:34.000
Wow.
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.880
I was actually I was actually gonna do it, but I figured that'd be kind of annoying.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.039
Yeah, a little bit, just kind of like the fire alarm earlier.
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:39.280
Yeah.
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:40.719
I have your attention, please.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.480
If it does that again in the middle of this, that'd be hilarious.
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:45.840
I'm gonna s I am gonna scream.
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.000
I'm gonna sue the apartment complex.
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:49.599
I am too.
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:51.519
I screamed his name, nothing.
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.960
I thought he'd fallen.
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.920
Then I heard his voice behind me.
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:58.320
Don't move.
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:01.039
Where is this going?
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:01.679
Uh-oh.
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.320
I don't know.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.039
Stinky.
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:03.599
Stinky.
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:04.079
Uh-oh.
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.519
I turned around.
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.880
He was standing on the trail, except there was something wrong with his face.
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.039
He was smiling.
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.960
Not a normal smile.
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.360
His mouth was stretched too wide.
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.800
And he said, You're gonna have to stay here.
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.079
That sounds terrifying.
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:33.119
How do you also, yeah, how do you not know this person's like this after three years?
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:33.599
Yeah.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.719
Why would he first of all that'd be a very elaborate and detailed like serial killer move, right?
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.760
There is get to know somebody for a few years and then kill them at this rate, is how that goes.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.679
That's doesn't sound very efficient.
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.599
No, it doesn't, but that's terrifying.
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.440
Good for all the rest of the people.
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:50.719
Yeah, true.
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:58.400
I mean, there have been like it's it sounds crazy, but there have been like people that like fall in love with like I don't know, their parents' killer or something like that.
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.880
Like their parents die to this guy, and then like they get released, and then oh, I love you.
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:04.239
They're crazy though.
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.679
I wonder if they like do that and then like plan on killing them later.
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:13.840
Probably like a publicity stunt, and then yeah, probably something like what you're saying is they try they're gonna try to kill him later or something.
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.360
Yeah, something like that.
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.480
Or or they could actually that could actually happen.
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.000
You never know.
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:21.519
I ran.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.679
I didn't think, I just ran.
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:25.679
Branches tore my jacket.
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.039
I fell twice, I lost one of my shoes.
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:39.519
Behind me, I could hear him laughing, then I heard him calling my name, then I heard him crying, then I heard his voice coming from three different directions.
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.320
Please, don't leave me.
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:43.519
Help me.
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.519
I kept running.
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.000
That was what that was what she heard him saying in different directions.
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:51.360
Yeah.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:52.639
Oh my god.
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.639
Help me, don't leave me.
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:55.840
Please, please.
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.039
Oh my god.
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.599
Don't stop.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.360
I kept running.
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.400
I eventually found a road, a real road.
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.280
I walked for almost an hour before a truck stopped.
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.480
Let me guess.
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.440
And my prediction is he's gonna be the truck driver.
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.239
Oh my gosh, screw that.
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:18.000
Where are you headed, too, stranger?
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:19.440
I'm sure she looks up.
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:30.480
I'm so sick of horror movies doing that where like they get off to safety and then there's like a truck, but the guy driving the truck has been the killer that was like three miles behind them in the woods.
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:30.960
Right.
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:41.360
Or it's like uh they line it up and he's like a partner that like leads them to like where the killer is because it's like some weird sacrificial thing, or they just plan it together as a duo.
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.400
They just need a new like horror needs a new story.
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.320
Yeah, they need something a little bit well.
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:53.679
Black phone was pretty cool, but that's more like psychological horror than it is like that one would actually scare me.
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.119
That one that wouldn't be scary.
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:01.199
I like the paranormal stuff that like because it's like the invisible like stuff, like a door opening and closing by itself.
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.960
It's like, oh screw that.
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:04.800
That's what scares you.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.320
Well, it's the way that they do it.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:14.159
Like in the first paranormal activity, the first one that we like pirated, it was like back at Penn Street.
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.159
Like, we watched that, and I I had night, I couldn't sleep that night.
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:27.280
I literally couldn't because it was the thing that got me the worst was because our basement at that that house was really old and creepy.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:40.320
Yeah, it was, and then there was the scene in paranormal activity where it was like the stairs where it started off, like sounding like somebody's actually walking up them, and then it went like the running, and then the door just went poof, slammed.
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:41.760
I was like, Oh, nope.
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:47.760
Yeah, and then every time mom would be like, Hey, can you go downstairs in the basement and get like uh this soap or something like that?
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.440
And I'm like, uh because the light would be off too.
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:57.840
Like she was like, We need to save on electricity, and I'm like, Yeah, okay, let me just you're gonna have one less kid when I go down there.
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:03.440
You couldn't go down there with a flashlight or just turn the lights on for a second, uh or there was just no lights down there at all.
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:05.280
No, there was one light.
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:16.800
Oh, that's even worse, and it was right at the very end of like where the so you have the stairs, and to the left there was a crawl space, which was already creepy enough as is.
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:17.199
Yeah.
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:25.360
Then you go more forward, there was the iron, the real iron cat like boiler for heating up the house back in the day.
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.480
Because I think the house was from like the early 1900s or something like that.
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:28.960
Yeah.
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:35.679
And then way further down was the only accessible thing for the washer and dryer.
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:44.480
And I was like, and right above it was like, you know, your typical basement, like you got the light bulb and the little like the little thing that's hanging in.
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:48.559
And yeah, and so there was no light source up until you got down there.
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:53.519
So yeah, if we had a flashlight, I would use it, but until that, I was like, no, I don't want to do it.
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:55.360
She didn't care though.
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.000
She was an adult.
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:57.840
She was like, that stuff don't scare me.
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.159
I ain't afraid of no ghost.
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.440
I don't know if the paranormal movies really scare me either.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:08.079
I mean, it's just the jump scare aspect because it's again like paranormal stuff to me.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.599
Like black phone would scare me, but that's a little bit different than paranormal.
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.480
Yeah, and I mean none of the Jigsaw movies scare me because that's just gore.
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.760
Yeah, and they need to end that story.
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:29.679
Yeah, they keep they keep uh the only one I think was actually a pretty good refresher is it was called Spiral, and it had Chris Rock and Terry Cruz in it.
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.360
Yeah, that one looked interesting.
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.039
Yeah, that one was actually pretty good, but then it just like, and then I think they made another one after that, and it was just like ugh, because there was one scene.
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.800
Because they keep going like back in time, because Jigsaw is technically dead, right?
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.400
Yeah, he's dead, and so it's like his his apprentice or something like that, too.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.239
I think is in the newest one.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:54.639
Yeah, but they keep wanting, they want to keep that actor in the movie, so they keep going like back in time now, and it's like just end the series, like 10 movies.
00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:00.639
Or it's just the same stuff, like, oh, you know, there's a key in your ankle, you have to cut yourself open with this chainsaw.
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.360
If you don't do it before the timer ends, you will die.
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.960
And it's just like you're gonna die of blood loss anyway, at that point.
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.280
But it's like this is so dumb.
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:15.599
But like, I get the first couple ones because it was like, you know, they base it off like I think all of them are based off it.
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:21.039
It's like you get a guy that, like, I don't know, I guess he committed tax fraud or something stupid.
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:28.880
Or he like he beat up an innocent man or like sent him to court, sent him to jail, even though he was the one that was guilty kind of thing.
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.119
And then it's like, oh well, now you're paying the price.
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.559
Let's see how you feel when you're committed of guiltiness or something.
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:35.679
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:41.519
Uh like, but it's just all gore, and it's just like that's not scary, it's just gross.
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.840
Yeah, I yeah, it is, it is.
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:49.199
Uh so anyway, she says, I walked for almost an hour before a truck stopped.
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.000
The driver took me to a ranger station.
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.480
Excuse me, the rangers searched for Alex for two days.
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:02.880
They found his backpack, they found his jacket, they found our original trail, but they never found him.
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.039
Here's the part I can't explain.
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.880
When I got home, I looked through the pictures we'd taken that morning.
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.599
There was one photograph from the trailhead.
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.239
Alex was standing beside the wooden sign.
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:20.639
I was behind beside him, and behind us, between the trees, was the same thin man I'd seen earlier.
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.519
Except he wasn't looking at the camera.
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.440
He was looking at Alex.
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:26.159
Ooh.
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.360
And Alex was looking directly at him.
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.119
Like he knew him.
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.079
I haven't spoken to Alex since, but three weeks ago I received a text from his phone.
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.480
It said, You left me there.
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.639
Then another man came through.
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.880
You weren't no, another oh, another one, another text is what it's saying.
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.000
Another text came to you.
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:47.840
You weren't supposed to find the road.
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.000
And then one final message.
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.880
He says you still owe him company.
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.760
Oh, because of the cabin.
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.760
Because like he was like saying, like, when they got to the cabin, like we could.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.639
Stay here.
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.360
Yeah.
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:03.920
He says you still owe him company.
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.079
So here's my question.
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.199
Was Alex actually trying to leave me in the woods?
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.440
Or was he already something else by the time we reached that cabin?
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.679
Because I've been thinking about something ever since.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.639
The warning didn't say don't follow the man.
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.960
It said don't follow.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.840
Wait, the warning didn't say don't follow the man.
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.760
It said don't follow the man.
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.960
That doesn't make any sense.
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.559
Maybe the man wasn't the thing I was supposed to be afraid of.
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.400
Maybe he was trying to warn me about my boyfriend.
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.480
Or the boyfriend just set it all up because he's done this multiple times.
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:41.599
Could be.
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:45.119
It's still weird though that he waited three years to do this.
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.159
Because you would think, because most Yeah, but maybe he's like dating other people on the side and doing that.
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:50.719
I guess.
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:51.519
You could think.
00:44:51.679 --> 00:45:04.159
Well, because like, okay, as an example, I know we like talked about serial killers and stuff, but like Ted Bundy, what he would do is he would try to lure like women like by faking like crutches or something with his Volkswagen Beetle.
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:12.960
And then he would get them to like get in the car, but he would, you know, obviously like uh what do you call it incapacitate them, like to where they were unconscious and stuff like that.
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:27.119
Um other times I think he went on a game show, or not a game show, a dating show, like how they used to have back in the day, where you'd be like, Oh, you know, here's this girl, her name is Susie, and you know, she's 29 and single and ready to mingle.
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:32.960
And then you'd have like six guys all sitting up in a booth, and like, but they'd have a cover so she couldn't see what they looked like.
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.599
She'd just hear the voices, and then she picked somebody.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:45.119
Apparently, Ted Bundy or somebody got like, or I think it was, I think it was Ted Bundy, he got picked because she really liked the way that he was funny and charming and everything like that.
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:52.000
And then, like, she said later on in the day, like he like made her feel uncomfortable.
00:45:52.079 --> 00:46:01.039
And so before they actually went out on their date, so she bailed last second, but like she survived because he was obviously planning on killing her that night.
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.400
Oh, yeah, I did hear something about that where like she didn't go on the date.
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:29.199
So, like, I'm thinking like maybe that's this case where like, or like what you said too, is maybe he's dating multiple people, and he this is just something he does as he he takes him on this old this romantic hiking trail, and it's like four or five hours on this path, and there's a sign that he conveniently goes by every time that says, Don't follow the man, and then there's a cabin that he just conveniently knows where that's at.
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.440
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.920
Yeah, so that that's where I'm thinking.
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:39.199
Well, that then that raises the question is if there is still serial killers around.
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:48.639
Probably, and Montana would be the place to do it because it's bare there, or the Appalachian Mountains or Appalachian or whatever you however your pronunciation of it is.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.159
Yeah, but that one's obvious.
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.599
That is true at this point.
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.440
Anything could happen up there.
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.760
Yeah, I mean, mountains in general are just creepy, they're just so dense.
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:02.480
Well, even like probably what Yellowstone National Park, you could probably get away with stuff there too.
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:09.519
Maybe not have a cabin out there, unless you're a park ranger, but you could probably find like a cave or something like that or do whatever.
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.760
Sounds like you do this on the regular.
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:12.639
I do.
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.679
I'm just saying though, it's like it nothing's impossible.
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:25.360
But yeah, it just it to me it seems weird that he would just like try to lure her and then yeah, and then it's like this is three years later, and now what?
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.519
So what are they just like broken up now?
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.360
Like what right because he's I would block him though after all of that.
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:37.199
If I but the amount of stuff you'd know about each other after three years, like he can find her anywhere, right?
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:44.719
Unless, well, unless she moved probably out of state and got a new number and all that other crap that some people do when they break up.
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.159
I mean, I thought about after all my exes, I was like, maybe she just get another number.
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.039
But I'm like, I just have them deleted and blocked.
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.960
So I mean that that just kind of solves that issue.
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.400
Yes, it does.
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.719
Yeah, I think this guy probably has done this multiple times, or maybe he just likes playing the long game.
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:13.599
Like he tried, he actually like, Oh yeah, I like I love her and all this other stuff, and then we're like, But I'm a really good killer, you know, the long game, yeah.
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.800
The long game, and uh yeah, because the the cabin is what really got me.
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.840
Because I was like thinking, I'm like, maybe with the sign, I'm like, oh you know, you know, a little prank or something like that.
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:33.760
Somebody wrote something stupid to scare people, but then when the cabin came around, that's when it was like okay, he just conveniently stumbles upon a cabin.
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.519
Yeah, and it's right by a tree that's fallen down.
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:45.039
Like he probably was like more landmark-oriented at that point, and he's like, Oh, look, you ain't waiting here for an hour.
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.719
Like, okay, dude.
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:47.280
Yeah.
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:55.760
And then the truck driver comes and picks up the girl, and I guarantee you, if she would have probably like a typical horror movie moment, like she gets picked up by the truck driver.
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:02.239
Just imagine it, and like in the woods, you just see like two glowing eyes like staring right at her in the truck.
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.920
It is Stephan, this is a story, not a movie.
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.239
I know glowing eyes in the truck.
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.079
I'm just saying, skinwalker.
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.679
Could have been a skinwalker.
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.639
Yeah, but I thought that was what didn't go out west.
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.639
I thought that was just the Appalachian or whatever mountains.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.239
No, it's like Native American folk.
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.519
No, that's Windigo.
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:22.639
Maybe Skinwalkers.
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.239
Oh, yeah, no, skinwalkers, same thing.
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.760
It's kind of like Windigo and Skinwalker are kind of like same things.
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.360
Don't say they're the same thing.
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:30.559
Kind of ish.
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:38.079
They can morph themselves and like the because the Windigo used people's voices to manipulate, and then the skinwalkers can actually change form.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.599
They can actually change form, yeah.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.159
But it's more they're both Native American related.
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.440
I think skinwalkers though aren't like like Windigos are more cannibalistic, is how it happens.
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:51.280
And then like a skinwalker is just like a thing that they could just do.
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.519
Yeah, a freak, a freak bob.
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:55.280
Okay.
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:06.239
Well, I mean, I would I I would say don't uh for advice for her is probably not talk to this guy anymore, block him and get a new number, or if he starts stalking you, then definitely get something going.
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:16.559
Yeah, and I mean I guess her question was was he actually trying to leave me in those woods, or was he already something else by the time we reached that cabin?
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.280
I think both.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.480
I think he was trying to leave you out there to like lure you into something else.
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.920
But I also want to know who this other skinny guy in the woods is.
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.960
Why is he there?
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:39.519
Well, I think because didn't she say he's she said in the picture, like she saw like they were standing next to each other, and then he was looking, I think they were looking at something, and then he was looking at the thing, and then the thing was looking at him.
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:45.199
So it might have been like a weird entity kind of thing that's like just staring back at him.
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.920
Like should be you know, like how sometimes like with paranormal pictures, like that's scary.
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.639
Yeah, like you just all of a sudden get like a ghost that appears, like, oh, down the hallway or something like that.
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.840
But if it's an entity, it wouldn't show up in the picture.
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:04.719
It I in some form it would look like a blur, but maybe it was just I don't know, it would depend on how clear this picture is.
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:14.960
Because sometimes, like if mist or fog comes into play, like sometimes depending if it's there's a breeze or something, it could form something that looks humanoid or creature-esque, you know.
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:20.719
But other times it's like if this is just like you know, some guy in a slender man costume or something like that, yeah.
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.840
Cause the the way they make it sound like this is an actual guy in the woods.
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:39.199
And why and I it sounds like he was the barefoot one, and why is there right that where was it at the beginning of the trail where there was like boot prints and footprints, and then all of a sudden just the boot prints went on and the foot the like bare feet footprints disappeared.
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.159
So what I guess that was never mentioned again.
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.400
So that's kind of hard to I wouldn't even go back there if I were her.
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:47.440
Well, duh.
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.719
Because if they just find his backpack and stuff, but not him.
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.480
I'm like, yeah, no, he's gone.
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.719
Like, he's something else at that point.
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:57.280
Let him be a wild, like, woodsman.
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.280
Yeah, they found all that stuff, but then he also texted her, so he's still alive.
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:02.480
He's still alive, yeah.
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.840
But he's a freak.
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.559
Because he's sitting there saying, like, oh, you still owe him a visit.
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.039
And it's like, no, I don't.
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:12.159
Block.
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:22.079
Yeah, that yeah, that that I'm sorry, but if I if I experience what she experienced, and then I get a text message from that person, you're done.
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.800
Like, I ain't talking to you ever again.
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.360
What if she's really hot though?
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.199
And uh, and after three years.
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.719
Oh, yeah, you know what?
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:33.679
Yeah, right, yeah.
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:34.800
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.760
I knew you'd cave, Stephen.
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.039
That's true.
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.199
Manhood at its finest.
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.400
Um, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty obvious one.
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:45.440
I would stay away.
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:46.320
I would too.
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:47.119
Screw that.
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.039
Let him be a freak out in the woods.
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:50.320
Yeah, for real.
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.400
All right, you got anything else?
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:56.000
Um, the orange aid was very good.
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.159
And as always, my mocho mango was good as well.
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:01.199
Absolutely.
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.320
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.079
No, I didn't.
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:06.639
Oh, no.
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.239
Because your face jittered.
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.280
You're like you're like, oh.
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.079
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:12.960
Shut up, I love you.