Alex White on Building Skully Vibes & Turning Art into a Career | Digging Deeper Ep. 12

Austin: Welcome back. Another episode of Digging Deeper by Dialedon Gummies. I had the pleasure of sitting next to Alex White, aka Scully Vibes. How did cannabis really come into your life? man, I don't I don't know if I've ever told the full story. So this would my it might be even new news to my parents. I started smoking weed when I was like 12 years old. 710 individual skulls. I hand drew them all about like 25% of the way through that. I was like, wow, this is something that. seriously. There had always been what I was like trying to do on the side, but it never ever made any realistic enough amount of money to consider it a job. I kind of I stumbled into it. Really cannabis really helps like get the juices flowing a little bit. You have to have a story that stands out to you. What was that? The craziest thing I think that happened on any one day there was An absolute legend in Colorado right now. Absolutely crushing it on the art scene. And we're so happy to have you here, Alex. Thank you for coming. thank you so much for having me. I'm I'm a longtime fan of dialed in gummies and getting high. So it's awesome to be here. Well, Alex, let's jump right into it. So some people may know, most probably don't. You started going to school for biology because you wanted to be a dentist. I believe. Yeah. Correct. Yeah, that well that was the plan at the time. That was at least what I was telling my family. I don't looking back, I don't know how much I would ever say I was like really passionate about dentistry. You know, I I think I saw some people that that were dentists and I was like, man, that that looks like a pretty sweet life actually. But yeah, I don't know. Turns out that it wasn't really for me. And where were you where were you going to school at? I was going to school University of Florida. okay. Yeah. So are you originally from Florida? Yeah, originally from Florida. I grew up in Orlando, Florida, like 10 minutes from Disney World, like zero to eighteen pretty much. No kidding. Yeah, I went to college in Gainesville and then moved out here, like literally the day after graduation. I like had all my stuff already packed and drove straight out. No way. Mm-hmm. I used to live in Orlando. I went to school fulcale. wow. Wow. Yeah, that's a blast from the past. Yep. Man, I used to see the commercials all the time. Yeah, watching them on TV, saying up late. yeah, man. That that's cool. Yeah. A buddy of mine went for graphic design and he kind of put me onto the school. And I was, you know, I loved the idea that it was like an accelerated rate program. I could get my bachelor's in less than four years. And I had already taken a year off of college. So I was like, all right, I want to get this shit done. So I went down there and got an entertainment business back bachelor's and yeah, got it in two years basically. Awesome. It was intense. It was intense. But Orlando's a really cool town. I'm sure it was Fun to grow up in, that close to Disney. Are you anti Disney or Disney with it being that close? No, I like Disney. I don't know. I'm I don't know. I I don't wanna be like a Disney adult, but my wife's probably more of a Disney adult. but I I think it's great. Yeah. I used to go hang out at like City Walk and stuff like that. yeah, yeah, and in downtown Disney when I was a kid. and Just like that was the place to be when after high school and stuff like that. Get your parents to drop you off there. yeah. And then yeah, run amok through the shops for an hour or two. You still have a bunch of friends back in Florida? yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yes and no. Like a lot of I I went to like a very conservative Christian school for the majority of my upbringing. Like for a Sue 10. Yeah. So a lot of people aren't really down with the whole weed thing. but I did make a lot of friends. I went to Dr. Phillips like 10th grade through twelfth grade. Okay. And I made some good friends there that are like lifelong friends. They're just most of them aren't in Florida anymore. They all kind of move different places. Your parents are still back in Florida? Yeah, my parents are still in Florida. They moved from Orlando to Destin after everybody moved out of the house, and now they're they're living there like beachside jobs. Destin's a pretty sweet spot, man. It's a it's a destination for a lot of Cincinnatians. I don't know what it is. There's a golden road that leads right to Destin or to Hilton. It's like the weirdest thing. I knew so many friends that would go on vacation down there growing I mean, it makes sense. They're it's too beautiful to ignore. Yeah. And it's like I I try to go back at least once a year, around 4th of July or something like that. And like it's always a big party out there. Always, always. So where did the where did the name Scully Vibes come from? How did that come up? so I was already like drawing the character and kind of calling it Scully for a little bit. And And when did start drawing him? Man, I I don't I've gone back and I have trouble pinpointing the first time that I ever drew it because it's something that sort of like morphed over time. Yeah. I used to in the early days when I wasn't even really thinking of art as like a career, I had like an art Instagram that was like skull mask kid. And I was like drawing different, like, I don't know, kind of like creepy skulls and stuff like that at the time. stuff that was like a little bit edgier. and that kind of morphed over time. I was like, you know what? I don't know. There's enough like There's enough scary crap in the world. Yeah. I was like, I wanna I want stuff that that makes people smile, yeah, and brings it brings a good vibe to people's faces. And that was kinda how the vibe thing ended ended up. I was like, that's like the second half of the component, yeah, you know, is is bringing the joy, bringing the good vibe, and letting people know, like, I don't know, it's okay to have fun and be yourself. Yeah. Very okay to have fun and be yourself. Now, how did cannabis really come into your life? Like, were you Consuming cannabis back in the Florida days, or did that happen once you came out to Colorado? man, I don't I don't know if I've ever told the full story. So this would my it might be even new news to my parents and stuff. So bring it out. I'm sorry. But I started smoking weed when I was like twelve years old, probably like way too young to be messing around with weed. You grew up quick in Florida, I feel like. I I went to I went to a daycare where I refused to take naps and I got lumped in with some fifth graders. And I ended up like just by chance moving down the street from one of these same fifth graders. So I was like hanging out with the seniors and stuff when I was in like eighth grade. And they were like, hey, it's fun to hey, hit the bong, brother. You know what I mean? Like a fun little thing. So that was kind of my first time smoking was like just ripping the bong in my friend's backyard and your first time smoking cannabis was through a bong. Yeah. That's intense. Yeah. That's intense. Most are like a chill on a bowl for me, pop can, you know. yeah. But a bong, that's that'll get you there. You're definitely getting high your first time if you're smoking a big I d I definitely didn't really know what I was doing at all. But yeah, no, I I remember I remember it knocking me back a decent amount. I remember feeling like I don't even know if I really got high, and then going and sitting down and being like, Whoa, I am about to fall asleep immediately. Now, did you you were already drawing prior to cannabis, correct? Mm-hmm. Now, did you feel like cannabis brought this like New sense of creativity to you once you started smoking it and like brought new inspiration to you? yeah. I mean, all the time. I think cannabis really helps like get the juices flowing a little bit. it's amazing what it'll kind of open up your perspective on all the time. So yeah, I always have been kind of using it to for creativity and been drawn to it because of that. Okay. And now you had mentioned that, you know, cartoons have been like a big part of your life. Like what were some of your favorite cartoons growing up as a kid? And Do you still like grab inspiration from those now now? yeah, definitely. I mean as a kid, it was I I didn't actually have cable for a really long time as a child. So I was watching some weird stuff, but I was watching like Arthur. yeah. I was watching the Jackie Chan, where they like got the little talismans, like the old animated show. I used to like wait for that to come on all the time. and then when we finally ended up getting a little bit of cable, it would be like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. I used to really like that. all the old like Hanna Barbera stuff. I used to stay up really late. yeah, you didn't have access to Nickelodeon and all like the OG cartoons as a kid. No, it was actually weird. I had I ha a really vivid memory as a kid, where the entire gym class broke out and started singing the SpongeBob theme song, and everyone around me knew the words, and I had never heard it before. So I'm just dumbfounded. Like, how do all these kids know this song? But it's like, everybody's watching it but me. I don't know. I was just like, I was kind of sheltered. My parents had really were not into the TV. They they were like, use your library card, get your books, ride your bike. And I don't know, at the time I thought all of that was kind of crazy, but I don't know. And I I look back on it more positively now. I was gonna say in retrospect, I'm sure it opened up your creativity, you know, 'cause reading books you have to have a crazy imagination to kind of create those scenes, if you will, that you're reading within your own mind. So I'm sure that transpired for your art later and be able to create these scenes like one on your t-shirt, you know, drawing inspiration from just what's going on up here and now putting pen to paper or, you know, paint or brush. You know, you mentioned you've got a couple of different mediums that you like to use. yeah. so I've primarily like just old school like traditional illustration. but that really kind of led me over time to digital illustration. and that's like addicting. You have like every color you can just tap undo all the time. So I find myself doing doing digital illustration a lot. But yeah, I don't know. I like going back and and doing the traditional stuff a lot too because you have like a nice original when you're finished. yeah, I've seen some of your murals around town. You know, you've got freaking murals in so many shops and they've all been hand painted. thank you. Yeah, yeah. I'm really honored for that. So many people have been down to put my art up on their walls. but painting murals is one of my favorite things to do. I I'm always trying to get those jobs. Those are the best ones, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Do you have any specific like favorites that you have around town that people could go hunt for whenever they're visiting Denver? man. I will say you gotta see the level seven one. the level seven location on Hamden. Okay. Let me paint like a sixty foot wall on the back. So it's like huge. I think there's probably, I don't know, ten plus characters, maybe fifteen. How much time did that take? it took I think like nine days, like start to finish. how much paint? Like two or three gallons of Not that there's a lot of different colors. So it's like small amounts of a lot of different fair. Yeah. Fair. but yeah, I did paint the wall and prime it before too. So maybe a little more. But yeah. Nine days though. Nine days, yeah. I was really cranking on it. I mean, I've wanted they had an opening date that they were trying to hit. Yeah. and I just wanted to get it done. I didn't want to be dragging my feet on it or whatever, but yeah, it ended up it ended up being quite a few kind of 10, 12 hour days, yeah, making it happen. Now, okay, so that's one. Are there any others that people should go and check out and definitely see both of the reefer madnesses for sure. Yeah. they got good ones in both of their lobbies. let's see what else. Seed and Smith. yeah. Like, yeah, Seedon Smith has one across the whole counter underneath that kinda like tells a little the story of their tour. and then it has a little bit of extra stuff for X Vapes and the Denver scene. So yeah, th those are those are my favorites off the top of my head. We put a pretty sick installation of your artwork in story cannabis out in Arizona too. that's right. That's right. Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that 'cause that's not in town. But man, I gotta go make a make a trip to go see that. Yeah, yeah. That's a big piece. W which location is that in don't ask me that. I'm not sure. I I tried looking it up and I saw that I was like, there's like 20 of them. I'll get back to you on that one. I'll get back to you on that one. yeah. Now, okay, so before when did you decide to go full-time art? Like, because I believe before that you were a GM at Oasis here in Denver, which is a pretty big cannabis shop. You were at the big one, the superstore, right? Yep, yep. Working at the superstore on Evans. it was pretty cool. I mean, they definitely they gave me my start for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of lot of memories at that place. And did you start as a bud tender and work your way up to GM? Yep. Yeah. Started as a bud tender, worked my way up. I don't know. They they they had a lot going on. So it having people that applied themselves there, you could definitely like stick around and get a lot of experience pretty quickly. I know a lot of people know how the cannabis industry goes a little bit. and yeah, I've worked my way up to GM and honestly was really enjoying it for a long time. And I don't know, was starting to get a little bored or so around twenty twenty and COVID hit and I was like, Wow, I'm so thankful to be essential and still have my job, actually. I was watching all my friends with restaurant jobs and stuff like that struggle and it was brutal. Yeah, it was absolutely brutal. I I felt guilty almost that I was like, we were almost like busier than ever. Everybody's home coming in, dapping everybody up at the weed store, you know. They all got those checks coming in all of sudden they're Transactions double or triple in size. Yeah. So there's a there was a lot of that going on. and that and I ended up sticking it out a little bit. But that was kind of where I started thinking about like, all right, really, like what is my exit plan here a little bit and and what do I really want to do? and art had always been what I was like trying to do on the side, but it never ever made any realistic enough amount of money to consider it a job. and that changed with the with the smoking skulls. that was the first thing I did. I kinda I stumbled into it really and also because of Oasis. This was the NFT that you did, right? This was the NFT that I did. And you did seven hundred and ten individual skulls for that, correct? Yes, I did. hand painted. I hand drew them all. I I did them all on the iPad. Okay, so are you still hand drew in proceedings unique? They're all hand drawn, they're all unique. I I really I saw at the time that a lot of people were doing what they call generative collections, where they made a bunch of traits, remixed them together, and then put out a bunch of different images that were like different combinations of those. And I was like, I don't know, that's okay, but like it'd be kind of cooler if there was like an artist that was like making all of them, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was really like like an original art piece that you could buy. So that was my original idea behind it. Do you ever wish that you only did 420 instead of 710? Or I originally set out to do 420 and it was so popular at the time that people were like begging me to do more as we were getting close to the cap. So I extended it to 710, mostly just because I was like, I didn't I didn't even really expect to make them all and sell them all, much less have a but like enough demand at the end where people were like, we really want more of these. And was that a moment where you were like, Okay, like. I got something special. Maybe I need to hone in on this craft and like really go full bore onto it. Yeah, definitely. The the further we got into that, about like 25% of the way through that, I was like, wow, this is something that I need to take seriously. And it was the first time that I was ever able to like amount a little bit of savings and kind of like build towards that dream of like, all right, what's an exit plan gonna look like? and really what is life gonna look like for me and my wife as I choose to go from like having a regular check to I'm just not gonna make any money for the foreseeable future. and I super promise I'll figure it out, right? So I'm sure that was a little scary. yeah, definitely. I mean it's still scary sometimes. Yeah. I don't feel like a hundred percent secure any day, but I don't know. I'm super grateful to be doing what I'm doing all the time. And now that I like I I can't emphasize enough how valuable it is to like own your own labor. yeah. I I never I I kind of wrote it off a little bit at the time, you know, like you get raises and stuff and it's nice at your job and like jobs are great, the stability's great. but seeing like that you're kind of capping your potential there and it's like, well, you you're making thirty dollars an hour, but you're only ever gonna make thirty dollars an hour, you know what I mean? really being able to own all of the fruits of your labor and direct it in your own way is like, man, I'm like addicted to that now. I'm like I I feel like I can't go back. No, and then you get to make your own hours, you get to create your own schedule. And then, you know, as time goes on with popularity, you can adjust your pricing, make more off of your art. And, you know, I know that you had a really special moment with Oleo back in the day. yeah. Where you won it was a packaging contest, correct? Or an art contest that led to your art being on their packaging, right? Yeah. So what year was that? you know, I actually I should have looked that up. I'm not sure off of the top of my head. That had to be Man, that probably was like it was twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. Okay. cause it was probably right after I went full time doing art. probably early 2023 that we actually made it. but yeah, submitted a dab tool and a box for a design contest that they were doing, just because I was always super like Olio. during the live resin days, they were like the man in town. I was like, yeah, I was getting the diamonds and the sauce and stuff and everybody's super jazzed. so bad. I was so stoked to I just wanted to work with them super bad. they were they were a really example for me of a company that was like doing awesome artist collabs and stuff like that from the beginning. so yeah I submitted the Dabber in the box. they came back to me and they were like hey the the dabber one that's awesome. The box is uncompliant and we probably wouldn't run something with that many cartoons on it. But if you want to make us something a little bit different, that might fly a little bit more, we'd be down to run it. And I was super honored to yeah, I made them a solventless box and a live resin box. You still have the packaging? Yeah, I have the packaging in my office. Yeah. I have a little a shelf in my office of I don't know, just all my favorite things that we've done over the years. Yeah, so I can look back on it whenever I'm feeling a little down. Love that. Little inspiration, if you will. Yeah, definitely. And then you've since then worked with a bunch of cannabis brands, right? Like whether it was through packaging, like I know you did that awesome t shirt with Soiku. yeah. Can you talk about some of your like your favorite, you know, pieces of work that you've gotten to do within like cannabis and cannabis brands? yeah, definitely. I mean, the Soikubano boys, yeah, definitely big shout out the Soiku Bano crew. Yeah. They they big shout out. I actually met Tim their lab director through the NFT thing back in the day. So he was actually collecting smoking skulls and I didn't know him at all. and they he was like, Hey, I I'm a big fan, like reached out to me, let me know. I I think it was like through Bart actually. yeah, Bart like connected us. and I ended up hanging out with him a little bit and now we've been friends for Years. Now you guys go skiing together. Yeah, yeah, literally. Go skiing together, hang out all the time. So yeah, definitely shout out to him and Chris, man. They've been He's got a ton of your art on their wall, man. They probably have the best collection of like my originals and stuff all in one place that you can like go see. They they have some of the biggest paintings that I've done. and really just for the love, man, I've yeah, I can't. Does it get more special than that? Yeah, I can't shout them out enough, man. They're they're really cool. You did a mood mat with too, right? Or is just the t-shirt? So kind of. I made I made the Luna three point five like the the moon. The moon. Yeah. I actually I like designed the background on that, but I don't know, just like a random small thing. There's a lot of little stuff like that. Like there's sticker sheets and stuff like that I made early. I did like the bow packaging for their Christmas thing. So it was always just like, I don't know, they're they're always showing me love. I'm always trying to do fun stuff with them. Yeah, they were the first people that really like put me on and gave me a bunch of projects and stuff like that. so yeah, man, shout out to them always for holding it down for me. 100%. Now what other brands have you gotten to do some work with outside of us? Let's see. one that has been was pretty good was Spherex. Spherex paid me to do a few jobs for them. I got to do like a cool mural where we did basically like a fill-in like coloring page that was mural size at 420fest. the Malahai four twenty fest. Yep, yeah. A couple of years ago, everybody got to come color it themselves. That was pretty fun. we've also made like a a little three D scully display that like holds a vaporizer. No way. Yeah, holds a vape in his backpack. Where the looks at. I actually don't know. I'm not sure how many of them are out there. I I hit them up trying to try to. You need one of those for the office. I know. I've o I've only seen pictures of it. I've I've gotten sent pictures of it a couple of times and I'm like, man, it turned out so good. But I'm not sure how many they actually ended up making or whatever. It was like it was kind of complicated, honestly. Yeah, yeah. They wanted like a multicolored 3D print that had different colors through the whole thing. And it was like I don't know, I know a little bit about that, but not much. and was very honest and forthcoming with them when we were starting it. but was like, hey, I can get you the 3D model. They got it to the 3D company and it was a little collaboration between me and them trying to figure out how we were gonna get this thing painted and designed exactly the way they wanted it. Very, very cool. Very, very cool. Now, you know, you also you go to like farmers markets and different cannabis events to sell your art, right? Like they have the ability to like go buy your art in person, get to meet you. Like, are you still doing farmers markets or like what are your kind of like Your pop-up schedule right now for people to come and like buy scholarly work. Man, so my pop-up schedule is a little random. I do I I end up mostly doing like kind of ki cannabis events mostly. just 'cause that's where my artwork flies the most. And man, it's kinda like I don't know how much you've heard about the cannabis events in town, but it's been getting diicier and dicier throw cannabis events over the past couple of years. So it was something at the time, that was like a little bit more easy and free flowing, and Now they're getting like harder to find. I gotta be hunting for them on on Instagram. Yeah, a little bit more. and trying to like set stuff up for myself. But I try to do I'll do pop-ups at first Friday. yeah. yeah, so like Santa Fe, and like eighth. I'll set up like a little booth. We'll do pop-ups there pretty much all through the summer. Each first Friday, they always do a big event down there. and then we always have the artwork at Denver Art Society full time. So really yeah, yeah. You can go in there anytime. There's like a little wall. that has prints and artwork and stuff like that on it. So you can go in there and like shop anytime, whether I'm there or not. and then I have actually have a studio over at Colfax and Kipling. I was just gonna know if any anybody's interested, but anyone's welcome anytime. I don't know, it's not locked down or nothing. Yeah. that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. Anybody come by anytime and can like pop-up shop with me. I got way too much art that is just hanging on the walls over there that would love a good home. And that's like a big creative space, right? Like you share that. Mean you have your own office, but there are other like creatives that are in that space with you, correct? Yeah, definitely. So it was Boro Vision who originally he's was renting the entire downstairs for a photo studio. He shoots awesome photos of glass and stuff like that, like fifteen years. a lot more people know him than me for sure. him, Mitchell downstairs. and then Mitchell is extracts daily. yeah, yeah. Does a lot of a lot of good work photography too and doing gummy stuff. And then upstairs we got Brad with Riptip. Brad Gordon, yeah, Riptip's in there. that's super cool. yeah, they're probably the most legitimate business out of out of all of us for sure. They're they're doing crazy numbers and constantly trying to like recruit all of us to help them do all the little odd jobs and stuff to help make it happen. but they're super cool. The They've given me some great opportunities and I don't know, they're just awesome. I've I've remember loving the Gordo Scientific spinner caps before I I ever had a rip tip or anything like that. So I don't know, having an office across from him is kind of blows my mind sometimes. And then Meg, level heady, has office, yeah, next to me. yeah, makes a lot of cool cannabis minis and stuff like that. Yes, she does. Yeah, she does. Her her and then she does like a lot of the like gram jars for displays for different like Concentrate companies and like you wouldn't be able to tell the difference of like the real concentrate and her displays, I feel like. no, absolutely not. they come out and show me them whenever they're done, and they'll show me the real gram next to the fake one and try to make us all guess and we get it wrong. Does she ever leave them around to like kind of like, you know, mess with you guys? Like go someone to go take a dab out of it. It's like, crap. No, no. I've I haven't luckily tried to dab out of a fake one so far, but I've definitely smelled them thinking they were real when they went out on the counter and stuff. That's too funny, man. Now So you've created this like incredible community in Colorado through your artwork. How does that feel to have now, you know, after sounds like five to six years of building this and like coming out with new artwork and you know, just what's it feel like to have that community now within Colorado? And do you have ambition to like grow outside of Colorado one day and like take this show on the road? But like still Colorado's home, but like maybe do like little time periods in like other markets and like get your artwork out more. yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm really interested in expanding the artwork as much as possible. I mean, Denver's always gonna be home base. It's beautiful here. I love being near the mountains. and I love people not looking at you sideways for taking a puff or whatever. Yeah. but man, I really I want to get out there more. I see the the scene we did PuffCon last year in LA and it was crazy out there. I saw I didn't go this year, but I saw everybody on Instagram stories going to New York for 420. okay. And man, that looks crazy. I had a lot of FOMO about that. So I was like, man, yeah, I want I want to get out there and definitely get involved more because I don't know cannabis communities are popping off everywhere. Like it's awesome. I mean, 10 years ago, when I was really getting started, you know, it felt like a lot more niche kind of a Colorado thing. But I don't know, I'm excited. I'm excited to see it go national and see everybody getting on board about it because it's like man, it's finally, finally opening up. I thought it would happen quicker. Honestly. Still so much growth, growth potential for this this plant. It's very exciting. it doesn't even feel like we're we're halfway there, but we'll see. Yeah. Now, so what is what does Alex like to do outside of creating like amazing art? You said you're a skier, like what else does Alex like to do to spend his time now that you're a Colorado and do you do hiking? Like yeah. Yeah, definitely ski as much as I can over the winter. hike as much as I can over the summer. I like camp a little bit and stuff like that. always hanging out with my wife and my dogs. They like to get outdoors too. so we're always trying to look for new spots and stuff like that. but also I don't know. I I hang out inside sometimes too. I I really like to read. I'm kind of a degenerate video game player sometimes. What's the g what are the games? Man, I've Apex Legends I was addicted to for a little while, but we're kinda it's getting away from that now a little bit. but now I'm on Switch stuff. yeah, I've been playing Pacopia with my wife. No kidding. Yeah, yeah, and the the Switch two. Yeah, and the new Mario Kart. Yeah, when you're not messing around with those. When you're not on Switch, are you a PC gamer? Like or do you use systems? Yeah, I do PC most of the time. Really? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I feel like that's harder. I would always like go to a friend's house and they would be like, All we're gonna play on the PC and I'd just get a In any game. I like couldn't do the keyboard fast enough. The mouse, all the things. Yeah, it's definitely kind of crazy. Yeah, the mouse and keyboard people are are super extra. And o honestly that's what's getting me away from like Apex Legends. I was I was playing League of Legends for a long time and I realized like I don't think I'm a legend. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I I could be pretty consistent, I could be good, but man, those games are so competitive. There's always gonna be somebody That's playing eight or ten hours or whatever. I stopped playing Call of Duty a long time ago. I was just getting so frustrated. Yeah, that's what I mean. So you gotta like Just put me in the beginner room so I can have fun. They'll put me in this like room with a bunch of like experts and I like would spawn and die within two seconds. I'm like, this isn't fun. No, no. You don't know where you're getting shot from. No, no, no. I'm like, I don't have that much time. I can't dedicate it. so what's your go-to mountain? Mine always was Winter Park. I loved going to Winter Park when I lived out here. yeah. Keystone's obviously great. A bay, good time. if the backbulls open at copper, always fun. I never made it out to Vale as much as I think I would have liked to. But what's your what's your go to mountain? Winter Park too. Winter Park. But yeah, definitely Winter Park. And Mary Jane, like always, yeah. It's just the spot. They they have really good prices and and honestly the mountain is just gorgeous. Yeah, it's so beautiful out there. And it gets different weather pattern than some of the I seventy corridor mountains. You'll go over that little pass and all of a sudden it's like dumping snow. Whereas it was a blue sky on I seventy. Yeah, the snow on the other side. It's the weirdest thing. Hundred percent. Yeah. It's it's just beautiful out there. It's something special at Winter Park, man. I I hope that doesn't change too much. I mean, it was crazy with 50% of the snowpack this year. I really hope that it we come back strong because man, I love The season was tough. Season was really tough. It was it was sad this year. Yeah. I man, it was it was tough. Now we touched on it a little bit. I want to dive into a little bit more on like what cannabis does to your creativity. And like I'd actually love to know, like, do you prefer, you know, to smoke, take edibles? Like, what's your prefer preferred form of consumption right before you start going into your artwork dives? I'm definitely a a dabber. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I'd like to like to rip some some solventless rosin. Yes, sir. Yeah, off the off the rig when possible. pens when not, yeah. Or the Puffco. but definitely a dabber. and I don't know, I'll still I'll still smoke some flour here and there. I like to experience the flavors and stuff like that, but less than I used to, honestly. I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you. But a good old donut joint's always enjoyable. yeah, absolutely. Yeah, hash hole at the table or whatever. Yeah, that's awesome. Now, so do you have like a preferred turp profile or like you know, it's hard to find fresh press, like everything's pretty much cold cure Do you ever like to find like full melt or you just love to grab like the jars that are available? I mostly be honest, am more of a a smoker than I am a super heady connoisseur on flavor and stuff like that. I I would say what I like most is like clean. I really appreciate like cleanliness, care for the product, like it burning clean, it tasting clean. that's like number one for me above taste. And then after that, I don't know. I like like sweet stuff. I like gassy stuff. But man, I don't know. I'm always down to try something new too. I love a little sweet and funk in the background. Yeah. I what really like that's one of the most amazing things about cannabis is like how varied it is all the time. Yeah. There's constantly new new things coming out, new things to try, new ways of doing things. and it feels almost unlimited. So yeah, I I don't know. Part of discovering that all the time is what I really like. All right. So you worked at Oasis for how long again? Like six years. Six years? You have to have a story that stands out to you of just like a kind of like a what the fuck moment. What was that? Too many stories, actually. That's But man, what the cre the craziest thing I think that happened on any one day there was the the lobby at that store has been run into by a car twice. my god. one time a lady just drove over the parking stop. She was very nice, a little bit of an elderly woman. no. but put it all the way through. literally drove into the lobby of the building and got out of her car, like, I don't know what happened. I thought it was in reverse. And I was like, Okay, wow. we rebuilt the lobby and we put these big poles like sunk into the concrete all along, like the ballards or whatever, outside so that people like That ever happened again, yeah, they would hit those instead. Man, we had this girl. I I I don't know what was happened. She was obviously in a bad state. I think speculatively, maybe a night of drinking or something like that. W she came in, she circled through our parking lot, drove back out onto Evans, circled around on Evans, hit about 45, and then like fell asleep or something, and like drifted over. And slammed into one of the bollards in front of the lobby again, going like 45 miles an hour. my god. Like shook the entire building. I like hear it from the office. Like, and the funny part was the building had been hit by cars so many times I knew exactly what it was. I heard the womp and I was like, get on the cameras. Like, yeah, somebody, somebody just hit the building, and her car still ran. Man, it was Must have been a Toyota. It was like a V, dude. In the front, it was absolutely smashed in. The bollard completely destroyed it. And she managed to limp it back down Evans just trailing oil the entire way. She drove away. She drove away. And I ultimately don't know where she ended up. I think I I know the the crash the the crash people, crash investigation unit or whatever, they have a cool van. they they came and like investigated it and they ended up finding her because they like came and gave us her name and whatever and my boss had to go to court. Stop. Yeah. Stop. It was insane. sounds like those ballards were a really great investment. yeah. One hundred percent. One hundred percent saved the lobby the second time. Probably saved some people too, going forty five, like who knows how far into the building she would have went before she stopped. Scary, man. And that was part of it was we had people sitting up there at the window full time. So when they came through the lobby, she was like a couple feet from them. Yeah, and it was like, All right, we really no round two on that one, actually. But all right, any other crazy ones? I mean, hitting the building with cars was pretty crazy, so I don't know if anything will top that. I wanna the the other ones are like like robberies pretty much are like robbery attempts. I don't know how maybe how much I wanna like air them out on that. Man, there was like there was stuff happening constantly. I mean, I think the most the craziest thing was people coming through the roof. we had somebody like actually dig through the roof, come in, and then have no plan. They like just swept some shelves, stole some Like it was through the roof? It was CSC concentrate. No, and then they just busted out the exit door and like ran out into the drainage ditch in the back and I mean, maybe stole like a couple hundred dollars worth of product. Missed the whole live live resin fridge and all of the nice grams and stuff like that. I think they stole some like CSC grams and some jet carts and stuff, and I was like boy. Wow All right, boys like it was quite the risk. There was a a break in I can't remember the name of the dispensary, but I remember they sent us the videos and they complimented our our packaging saying that it was the hardest thing to steal because there's a video where they just went to go grab a bunch of dialed in tents. And since they're circular, they had them for a second and they all just exploded and like flew everywhere. And he just looked down at the floor, shook his head and like ran away and left them all over the floor. So they didn't get any dialed in on that breaker. On that break in honestly, pretty smart. Yeah. We did not design it for that reason, but it worked out. That's pretty hilarious. Now, all right. So I've got a question that I ask a lot of people when they come on. If you could create your own dialed in gummy flavor, it could be anything, what would it be? The f the first thing that comes to mind because I feel like it fits the d actual like format of the dialed-ins would be strawberry lemonade. Strawberry lemonade. Remember we used to have that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think I I figured that was one thing. Yeah, that is like that's probably my favorite flavor of all time. but man, something if I could make a dialed-in gummy out of anything, I might go like Rocky Road ice cream. I don't I don't think that's maybe physically possible, but if I could have a brick of Rocky Road ice cream that was dialed in gummy and I could like pop them like those little mochi things. That would go. I do love a good mochi. Do love a good mochi. Love that. All right. We're gonna go rapid fire real quick. no. yeah. All right. Flour or concentrate? concentrate. Rosin or live resin? Rosin. Gas or fruit? Gas. Gas? Yeah. All right. All right. Rig or Puffco? Rig. Rig. Yeah. And what I guess let's ask. What do you have like a a recycler? Like what kind of rig are you rocking with right now? man, I got kind of like a a simpler one. It's by Brody Glass. It's a little like sake bottle. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Those style. yeah, yeah. I dab off that like full time with yeah, I got a little slurper from banger supply. Yes. And we're off to the races. Yeah, I don't don't need anything too crazy. Local legend, banger supply. They're the greatest. They're the greatest. Yeah. When I need something really fancy, I'll go downstairs and I dab off of one of Scott's fancy rigs. Yeah. All right. You just took a dab. Where are you gonna go get food in Denver? Probably Cluck Chicken. Cluck? Yeah, I really like that spot. big I'm a big fried chicken. Yeah, probably probably cluck that's close to me. Man, what else? It's okay. If that's your favorite, that's your favorite, man. Yeah, that's what that's what comes off the top of my head. You're just hungry for chicken tenders. Yeah. I know where you're going after this. You did mention chickens on the menu tonight. yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you probably too much chicken. All right. Favorite high snack. Probably like a chewy granola bar. Really? Yeah, yeah. Even healthy. I I think that goes things in like starburst or something. Starburst I'm crushing. Yeah, okay. That's fair. That's fair. Man, I really like those. I'll I eat two or three chewy peanut butter chocolate bars like back to back. You're put honey on No, I haven't. Is it good? Okay. Recommend that. Recommend that. Put the honey on, put it in the fridge for like ten minutes so the honey like You know, kind of I don't know what the right word is, but it's not as like liquidy. Yeah, it solidifies just a little Yeah, solidifies a little bit clutch. All right. So you actually brought in some artwork. We got some on the walls and then we've got this one right next to you. Can we talk about what's going on here? It looks like a lot of bugs. Yeah, definitely. So he's definitely a little bit of a a bug collector. Kind inspired by like more Animal Crossing kind of bug collecting. but it was also something that I used to do a lot as a kid. I used to be in the backyard. I would like build little ant houses and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I had like a little like bug thing with a magnifying glass and I would like catch grasshoppers and stuff like that and lizards and stick in Plenty of bugs in Florida. Yeah, yeah. my gosh. So I'm definitely in inspired by all of that. And you actually brought in a piece That we commissioned you for and you surprised me, which I appreciate and I'm totally taking this home. But this is an ode to Colorado. So this is anything from rock climbing, camping, off-roading, snowboarding, fly fishing, kayaking. It's all here. We even have a little skydiver up there with a gummy for the parachute. Like literally the level of detail that you go into, man, it is astounding. And I am so excited to get this into Colorado and excited to put that in my office when I get back. So thank you. So much for bringing that man. yeah. Thank you guys very much for commissioning me to make that. On I am this it's a a whole nother moment for me where I'm blown away of like, man, you guys are somebody that I've wanted to work with for really long time. I I was like going and lining up a a higher grade back in the day for the the syrups and stuff like that. I was like a a gummy fiend. So yeah, I'm a really long time fan of the brand and I'm super excited for this to come out, man. yeah, the shirts are gonna look awesome. we definitely had to lace you up with with a super cool print of it to remember the occasion forever. I appreciate that. I'm gonna have you sign that actually before we leave. yeah, for sure. I actually I got a sign for you at the bottom of the you did? Yep, yeah. man, one step ahead of me. One step ahead of me. Yeah, of course. So Alex, you know, before we go, any fun projects that you've got coming up and before you go into that, where can people find your work? Like is it Instagram? Do you have a website that they can purchase off of? So Definitely Instagram at scully dot vibes all the time. www.sculyvibes.com. You can get my art all the time. I'm constantly kind of dropping stuff there. whenever I make it, but every few months or so I'll come up with a bunch of new stuff. Excellent. Between then, just look for me at at First Fridays and stuff. And I don't know, your local cannabis event. If you got a good one, DM me on Instagram. I'll I'll bring a table out. All right, Alex. Again, thank you so much for coming on D Digging deeper, man. It is a a pleasure to have someone as talented as you here in the community, building the community and building your own community within cannabis. Thank you so much. I appreciate you coming on, man. Thank you. I'm I'm really honored. Thank you for having me.