I Die (for the FBI) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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And good morning. This is DeProgram with Ted
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Rall and Jamarl Thomas for Tuesday, September
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29th, 2026. And here's what we've got for you
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today. A criminal hacking group called Shiny
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Hunters has stolen information. It's hacked into
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the FBI and stolen personal information and
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contact information for tens of thousands of
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former and current FBI employees, one of the
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biggest breaches of government information ever.
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As usual, Kash Patel looking awesome. And yesterday,
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if you watched or listened to DeProgram, we called
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this one. We said that the arrest of five guys
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in Great Britain for the crime of driving vans
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near an airbase, where it's likely to be bullshit,
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it looks like bullshit is exactly what it turned
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out to be. Looking into that. We alluded last
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week to the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu allegedly
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had received pretty clear warning signs of the
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October 7th attacks and had failed to pass those
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on to the Mossad. Now we have confirmation via
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the New York Times that is sourcing first persons
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who spoke to the president of the UAE, Sheikh
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Mohammed bin Zayed. And these people have confirmed
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that, in fact, Netanyahu did receive these clear
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warnings and decided to ignore them. And last,
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we have an executive order that Donald Trump
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signed when he first became president in his
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second term, saying that trans women who are
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in federal prisons would be placed in men's jails.
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Also, it prohibits federal prisons from giving
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transgender inmates gender transition medical
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treatments for gender dysphoria. That executive
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order has been on hold due to court cases running
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their way through the courts. But now Trump is
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going to the U.S. Supreme Court to try to make
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those policies come real. Please like, follow,
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and share the show. We are here Monday through
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Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern Time. We go until 10
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on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This is one of those
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days. So we are here until 10. TMI show comes
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up after that. Good morning, Jamarl. How are you
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doing? I'm doing okay. I can't complain. Good,
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good. I don't know if we're live on YouTube or
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not. It's hard to tell from the interface here
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on... Yes... And good, and we're live
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on Rumble too. Okay, good, good, good. Okay,
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good. All right, so that's all good to hear.
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And I'm trying to think what else is going on
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here. Okay, so please, if you have a comment,
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go ahead and put your question or whatever into
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the live chat. Producer Robby West will put
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it up. We will take those throughout the show.
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Priority goes to the paid ones, the Super Chats
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and the Rumble Rants. Don't forget to become
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I'll put up the info on that. One piece of housekeeping
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that you need to be notable about. And here we
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go. This is the merchandise URL. If you are having
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any problems with it, that's on us. It's not on
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you, so this is one of those URLs where you can't
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do the www, right? So I'm putting it up here. It's
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http colon slash slash deprogram
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.myspreadshop.com. Or you can just go into
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your browser and just go deprogram.myspreadshop
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.com. There you'll find t-shirts, you'll find
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mugs and all sorts of stuff DeProgram related.
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I promise you this one works. Just don't do the
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www. I know we have been through this. It's ridiculous.
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It's like trying to pay off national debt to
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get this thing to work. We've got some good stuff
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here. Oh, we do. I love that. That's a great
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shirt. Lifting neighbors up to higher standards.
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Bad neighbors make good fences. And they do.
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They do, indeed. And for my non-history nerds,
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that is my patron saint, if I was Catholic, Vlad
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Tepes. Love the guy. Have y'all ever studied
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the night attack, Ted? No. He damn near captured
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Mehmet II. He found his tent. He took his
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pillows. Was he out taking a piss? What happened?
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No, so what they were doing... I want to know
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in history how many famous people were spared
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death by pooing or peeing instead of being where
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they were supposed to be. No, what Vlad did is
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that he had his men nail their horseshoes on
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their horses backwards. So it looked like they
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were going the other way. So the Ottomans are
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tracking them because Vlad had pissed them off
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to no end. Lured him into this valley. Then he
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attacked in the middle of the night, which is
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something you just did not do back then. Just
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killed thousands of them, took the Sultan's tent,
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captured his harem, took his stuff. I have no
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idea where he was, but Vlad damn near captured
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or killed the conqueror of Constantinople. After
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whom Sultan Ahmet, the neighborhood in the historical
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district in Istanbul is named after. Okay. Let's
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What do you want to talk about first?
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Jamarl, you always get a choice. That is awesome.
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The Netanyahu one. So AP is reporting that Netanyahu
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traveled to the UAE to have a conversation to
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basically tell him, deny, deny, deny. Do not
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tell them that I had a conversation with you
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about October 7th. Now, obviously, he didn't
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deny this. As you pointed out, the New York Times
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is reporting that this is being outed pretty
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heavily, that indeed Netanyahu knew about October
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7th. He was told by October 7th that he didn't
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necessarily relay that information to other security
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services in Israel. Now, of course, Netanyahu,
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the implication here is primarily the Israeli
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elections, which are coming up later, basically
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exactly one month from now. And so for the Israeli
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for the Israeli voting public this has to
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be a major issue, right? It's okay
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so if you knew that October 7th was about
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to happen but you didn't do anything about it
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then all this misery and pain that was
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inflicted on our hostages and our troops was
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on you. That obviously would be their concern
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because we know they don't really care about
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the people of Gaza. Just how serious,
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I guess, okay, I want to give
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the devil its due, his due in this case, right?
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So this reminds me a little bit of the August
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6th, 2001 memo that went to George W. Bush from
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the CIA that said, it's our assessment that Al
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-Qaeda is preparing to launch a major attack
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against the United States. But there was no detail
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if you read the memo, right? If you're George
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W. Bush, assuming he was capable of reading it,
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he would not have known where, when, what.
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In other words, even if it was just something
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as simple as planes are about to be hijacked,
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well, then you can notify the FAA to beef up
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security. He didn't know it was going
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to be planes. He didn't know it's going to be
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in September. He didn't know. So it's kind of
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like if I say, hey, Jamarl, be very careful. I
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think something bad's going to happen to you
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and you're like, "God, Ted, thank you so much. You're
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my best friend. What's going to happen? What should
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I look out for? Just be really careful." And you're
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like, "What am I supposed to do with that information?"
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So is that? I'm playing devil's advocate
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here, but I know you are. This is completely different.
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This would be like if I said, "Ted, the people
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that you're keeping in the open air ghetto are
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staging a revolt and considering an attack and
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you know the location, you know the group, you
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know. I know. I know the where. I know the where
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and I know the who. You know all of the stuff,
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right? As opposed to some randos may hijack
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a plane in the entirety of the United States
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in a country of 320 million people. Okay, Israel
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is a country of 9 million people with like hundreds
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of thousands of Palestinians, but they're localized
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in one location because you got them in an open
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air ghetto. So when you're getting that information
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and you choose not to relay that information,
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and I suspect you choose not to relay that information
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for reasons. Those reasons being you want your
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reason and your rationale for your greater Israel
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project to kick off. And you believe that this
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will be the thing that would allow you to implicate
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that project in a greater sense. Meaning, you
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want an excuse. And you want to pretend as if
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you didn't know anything about that excuse. And
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honestly, there's parts about this story that
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are mind-blowing. The idea that Yahya Sinwar
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was the person who released the information that
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they were relaying. And you say to yourself,
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what? Why? Yeah! That part is mind-blowing
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if that part is true. And I don't know if that
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part is true or not. So I'm going to put a pin
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in that part. Well, there is this, we've talked
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about it here. There is a culture among Islamist
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jihadism that you are supposed to warn your intended
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victim of a pending raid or attack. It's insane
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if that's true. Yeah. You're not supposed to
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necessarily be specific. It's usually more like
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straighten out or I'm coming to get you. And
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it kind of gives you the moral high ground
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because you gave the person warning, like shape
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up, cut the shit. And then they didn't, they
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chose not to do that. And now you have the right
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to kick their ass. There is no such thing as
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morality. There's culture though. There's culture,
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but it makes no sense. A lot of shit doesn't
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make any sense. True. No, that's true, but it puts
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me in the mind of the Brits when they're fighting
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the Americans and they're like, "It doesn't
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make any sense to put people into an open-air
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prison and then not and think that they're not
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going to try to bust out and kill you."
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Well, I do think, no BS, I think Netanyahu
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was looking at this kind of in the way that the
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Americans were looking at it going after the
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Native Americans or even, oddly enough, in a similar
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way that Hamas was looking at this, meaning
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sure we're going to get attacked. And we know
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Israel is going to get attacked. However, we're
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going to create greater Israel. And in a hundred
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years, when they look back on Israel that goes
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from the river to the sea, that is parts of Saudi
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Arabia, that is parts of Syria, that is parts
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of et cetera, then they're going to be okay with
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this because they're going to enjoy the fruits
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of my psychopathy. Meaning, yes, I'm doing really
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bad things, but I'm doing bad things because...
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For a good reason. Right. It's a perversion of
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the Spock thing, right? What benefits the
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greater number of people. Right. I may get people
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killed now, but in 100 years... That's not going
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to matter. Those people would have been dead
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by then anyway. But Israel will now be bigger.
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I think that's what he looks at. Oh, 100%. Yeah,
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it's like one quote that
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I've always heard Jewish Israelis
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say is, in the Middle East life is very cheap
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and land is very expensive. Yes. So you
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and that includes Jewish Israeli
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lives which the Israeli government does not
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care about. So if we lose a thousand Israelis
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but we create greater Israel, what does it matter?
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I think it's that. Yeah. I think for
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sure Netanyahu knew specifically and beyond this
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Emirati warning, reported warning.
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Let's assume it didn't even happen, right? The
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point is that Mossad had to know what was
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coming. They had incredible surveillance
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and tracking. They knew the addresses and phone
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numbers of every citizen. Well, they're not citizens.
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Of every resident of Gaza and the West Bank.
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They know their occupations. They know their
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ID numbers. They know everything about them.
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That's why they were, in some cases, able to
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call them before their building was bombed and
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said, you have 10 minutes to get out. Your building's
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about to be blown up. So, yeah, they know. Not
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to mention, I forget which socials it was, but
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maybe it was Instagram or Facebook, but Hamas
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was posting the practice sessions for the raid
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online. Where were they? Yeah, a year ahead of
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time. So clearly... So they were kind of... Basically,
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I think the Hamas fighters who got into Israel
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on October 7th, they were shocked at how easy
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things were. They just walked in and basically,
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for example, there was an IDF post where the
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door was open. And basically, they just walked
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in and no one was there. It had been abandoned.
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Clearly, the IDF was told to stand down. And
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as the New York Times reported, do not take my
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word for it. Go Google it yourself if you're
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a Zionist. They literally, the IDF did
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not respond in some cases for well more than
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eight and a half hours to kibbutzim residents
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who were calling desperately for help
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from their safe rooms. And they were like, these
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people are here. You have to come. Israel's
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minute. It's the size of New Jersey. It has good
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roads. There's no place you can get from anywhere
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to anywhere in that country in under three hours.
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And taking your time. This is the idea.
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They have helicopters. They have planes.
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Come on. It's like they deliberately let the
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attack unfold. And they wanted it to happen
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because they knew it was going to be a pretext
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to allow them to indulge in this massive land
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grab, which incidentally, by the way, the Times
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is also reporting that the Israelis have gone
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even beyond the control of 70% of the Gaza Strip.
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They've gone beyond the borders of the ceasefire
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and started encroaching even further into Gaza,
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beyond the points of the ceasefire zone.
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Historically, there is premise to doing things
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out in the open to lull your opponent into a
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sense of complacency. Now, armies have done that
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throughout history, go out, do maneuvers at a
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certain time of the day, all the time, for months
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on end. And then you just kind of just build
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that routine into your enemy. It doesn't surprise
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me how Mossad is doing this, because Israel is
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looking for something that's abnormal. How do
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you make it abnormal? By making it normal. And
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you just do it over months or weeks, or in this
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case, a year. And then you're just like, oh,
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they're playing with their paragliders again.
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Yeah. No, I hear you. I think it's
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weird because obviously, if General
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Thomas and General Rall are planning an operation,
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we're going to enforce secrecy at the point of
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a gun, right? Nobody's going
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to talk. Nobody's going to be posting on Insta.
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If they do, they're dead.
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Totally, totally. It's like hanging this guy
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upside down. That's what happens when
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you talk. All right, everybody shut
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the hell up. Yeah, shut the fuck up. All right,
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so all right, let's do some comments and we
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can move on because we only have an hour, so
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we got to be a little faster than usual. Okay,
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Makadin, I would have thought Robby would disapprove
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of someone who was so into anal penetration.
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Anal or Amal? It's because of Vlad. He's
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impaling people. Yeah. All right. Listen, I like
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lawn ornaments. I have no problem with that.
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Exile the Knights of Malta now. Ted, it's come
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to my attention to flirt auto-incorrect. We
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should just call him Fuck Fauci from now on.
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Okay. Dudlis. Yes, Jamarl, but have you considered
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that Israel has God on their side? Oh, Wonder
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Woman? Is that what you were talking about?
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I think it's just Israel has always
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claims to have God on their side. God gave
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this to us. Well I thought thousands
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of years ago it was ours or whatever. Name is
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the Wonder Woman character. By the way, if God
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gave the Jews Israel, the modern state of Israel
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or Palestine, right, they were pretty ungrateful
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for it. They didn't
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They were like, ah, this place for 1,900
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years. They could have come back.
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They chose not to. They were gone. It's
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Sorry, dudes.
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What this is like when that
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whole narrative is kind of like when
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you go to the bar and there's a drink
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at a table but there's no one there and then
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you're like there's no place to sit so you sit
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there and someone's like, hey that seat's taken
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you're like, no one's been there for 30 minutes
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and my ass is sore. I want to sit down. That's
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what the Israelis are like. Oh, yeah, we weren't
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here for it. Look, we put our glass there on
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that stool. So we were gone for 1,900 years
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taking a shit and smoking. But now,
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we want it back. No, no, no, no. There's
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a limit. I don't know what that limit is,
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but 1,900 years is past that limit. Well, God
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gave it to you. Why do you need to fight so hard?
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It's God, right? True. You don't have to be able
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to smite anybody who tries to sit in your seat.
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It's because he took it away. That's what they
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don't want. That's a part of it in the Old and
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New Covenants that they don't want to acknowledge.
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All throughout the Bible, starting Deuteronomy,
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it said there are blessings and there are cursings.
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If you do what you're supposed to do, if you
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keep your end of the covenant, this is where
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you're going to be. It's going to be a land of
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milk and honey. You'll be a light unto the nations.
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If you don't, I'm going to destroy you, scatter
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you all over the world. As a matter of fact,
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if you go through, if you read. I'm going
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to diaspora your ass. I want to say Deuteronomy
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23. He describes a nation who will come from
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far off with wings of eagles, speaking a language
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you do not understand, with a yoke of iron, and
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they will destroy you. You've got to do that
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Bible talk show. I think I'll do that with you
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if you want me. Mr. A. Lee, Hamas was in talks
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with the Israelis. It was Netanyahu who was stalling
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on the deal, hoping the Abraham Accords come
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first. That's true. That's true because Israel
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had no reason to negotiate. This stuff is not
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about...
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There is a rational reason to be credible when you're
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dealing with people because if you're credible
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they know that you're credible. Okay, this person's
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being honest in negotiations, but that's not really
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Israel. Israel is never really honest in negotiations
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because they don't feel like they need to be
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honest in negotiations. It's like Hamas from that
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point of view has nothing. If we're
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not honest in negotiations, so what? What are you
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going to do about it?
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Yeah, nothing. As our guest
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Ben Moser said the other day,
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it's a standard ploy on the part of the Israelis and
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the Zionists to pretend to negotiate. That's
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a standard tactic, but they're never,
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they'll make a deal and then break it or
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they'll just cut off negotiations right
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before a deal was about to be reached.
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You know what that's like. They never want it.
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They want it. No.
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Palestine. They wanted
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the West Bank. They wanted Lebanon. Meaning they
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want these things so these are things that they're
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pushing in order to get. They're not making a
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deal about it. They don't feel like they need
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to. From the point of view the U.S. got raided
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by Kim's Coffee Talk. Thank you so much for raiding
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us on Rumble, Kim's Coffee Talk. We love it again
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when people tell people to go to
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the show. It's a misnomer, right, because it sounds
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like different from what it is. Literally
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they're sending their listeners over into our
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chat. It sounds like the opposite, right? It
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sounds like we're taking things away. That's
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what a raid usually looks like. Well, they're
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attacking you. It's kind of like Vlad again.
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No, he raided Mehmet. Well, please attack
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me. Please attack me this way as much as you
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want. The moralists are great.
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That's a good problem to have. But no, what you
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do is at the end of your stream, you just, you
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and your entire audience goes to the channel
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of your choice. And y'all go say hello or whatever.
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It helps with the old level metrics. That's what
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it means to raid. Okay. Yep. Douglas Hobden.
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Comrade Robby knows his guerrilla tactics. He
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will make a fine leader when the revolution comes.
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I agree with that. And I'll play the role of
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Che. He'll be Fidel. Che had asthma, too, and
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he was croaking in the jungle. But Che killed
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people of different sexual orientations. I don't
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think that you could be a Che. You're too liberal
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for him. No, I wouldn't do that. We'll be talking
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about the trans prison thing shortly. Okay, so
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Zola Rosa, RIP to Mr. Belding from Saved by the
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Bell. Free Palestine. And thanks for the $5.
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I never saw Saved by the Bell. Really? I used
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to love that. I go through periods where I just
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don't watch TV. Oh, but see, you are much older.
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When I was going through it, I was a teenager
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watching Saved by the Bell. You were probably
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an adult. You were in your 20s. Yeah, yeah. By
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the way, I was just reading. This is the second
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reference to Saved by the Bell in a 24-hour
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period. There was a reassessment in the New York
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Times of the 1995 film Showgirls. Yes. And the
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star of, I forget her name, she was from Saved
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by the Bell, right? Yes, she was. And apparently
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Showgirls completely ruined her career. It was
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Paul Verhoeven's movie. It was a horrible movie.
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Well, for one, at the time, I don't
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know if you remember, it was big because it was
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kind of like, ooh, this is very risque. And she's
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being in a movie that is very risque after leaving
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this child's show. By the way, Joe Eszterhas,
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who was the screenwriter, was paid more money
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for that script at the time than had ever been
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paid to a screenwriter in Hollywood history,
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like one and a half million dollars. And so the
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thing is, now the assessment is that this was
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satire. And that Paul, as Tarantino
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said, Paul Verhoeven was in on the joke, but
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Joe Eszterhas was not. I think it was a terrible
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movie in a lot of respects. Even little, there's
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little tells, for example, this will sound
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stupid, but the street signs don't look right.
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They look ticky tacky.
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You didn't hire a real designer who knows what
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things actually look like in Vegas and stuff.
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And it's just like. But now I'm saying this as
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a huge fan of Paul Verhoeven. I think
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the man is a god. I think he's one of the best,
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finest film directors of all time. What is another
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movie he directed? RoboCop, Starship Troopers,
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Hollow Man. Oh, what's the one on Mars where
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they go? Total Recall, the original version.
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Yeah. He did She,
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which is amazing. Oh, Black
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Book, which sort of is an inversion of the traditional
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Holocaust narrative. It's so cool. Paul
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Verhoeven's a genius. I love him. And it's
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I'm like, of course it's satire. His tongue has
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always been planted firmly in cheek in everything
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that he does. So it's kind of like, oh, but I
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don't, I still am not going to do it, but I don't
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want to. I think that's their point. I think
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it's campy, and I don't think it works. And one
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tell is it has Kyle MacLachlan in it, right?
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And he didn't even use Kyle MacLachlan correctly.
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Now, the thing is, if you fuck up using Kyle
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MacLachlan, that's on you because he's great.
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It's just sort of like
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Idiocracy with what's-her-name in it. What's
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-her-name from SNL. You know what I'm talking
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about. Maya Rudolph. It doesn't use Maya Rudolph
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right. Maya Rudolph is, if you didn't
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make the most of Maya Rudolph, that's on Mike
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Judge. I love Idiocracy, but that's a fuck up.
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Mike Judge doesn't do well with female characters.
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He said he doesn't do well with female characters.
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What do you mean? Yeah, the female characters
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are always very sort of their sex objects or
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their romantic interests. Oh, I see. Everything's
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always told from the male point of view and only
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the male point of view. Jennifer
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Aniston is in Office Space and she's underutilized.
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She's kind of like, you don't really
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get what motivates her. She's just
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the cute chick who works at TGI Fridays. I see.
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I see. He gives a male point of view. Yeah, only.
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Right. And that's OK. He's still a great,
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he's always worth watching. But you
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just know that's one of his,
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one of the things that goes wrong. We should move
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on. Should we talk about the transgender thing?
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Yeah, let's talk about the transgender thing,
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because I'm curious on your point. So, yeah,
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I'm curious about yours, too. So shortly after
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he returned to office in 2025, Trump signed an
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executive order saying that imprisoned trans
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women have to be housed in men's prisons, not
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women's prisons. Also, he tried to prevent them
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from receiving gender transition medical treatments,
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which basically mostly for the most part involves
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drugs, which are very expensive in federal prison.
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Lower court, there's a lawsuit, there's a class
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action lawsuit representing 2,000 trans women
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and its three main plaintiffs. That's been winding
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its way through the courts. And so far, the administration
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has lost at every single level. Now it's gone
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through the federal appellate court system where
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they lost again. So Trump has filed a writ to
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the U.S. Supreme Court asking to be able to
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carry out those terms. I want to just
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cut, really, I have a tendency to bury the lead.
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It's one of my major problems. And I'm going
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to say my main take here is that this is a distraction.
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At a time when no American people right
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now, Democrat, Republican, anything else, are
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spending any time thinking about trans women
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in prison. They are thinking about an administration
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that does not seem to care about them lining
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its own pockets and sending money to countries
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overseas while we are in deep shit. And we're
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starting wars that are destroying the economy.
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I think that's what the American people, that's
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what their minds are on right now. And this is
00:28:47.420 --> 00:28:50.119
all about, Trump doesn't care. This is
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about, look, squirrel. So it's also cruel,
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.720
right? Basically, trans women, it can't
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be an easy life to be in prison. And you want
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to send them, I understand how that might
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make women, cis women inmates uncomfortable.
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.880
But there's got to be a way to put them in their
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.140
own section of the prison or whatever, make sure
00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:18.339
that they're housed with people who
00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:21.079
are okay with them. But there's got to
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.180
be a way to deal with this other than putting
00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:27.539
in the male, general male population. And finally...
00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:31.779
I'm also deeply concerned. In terms of
00:29:31.779 --> 00:29:34.619
the, I think there's an argument to be
00:29:34.619 --> 00:29:38.980
made that gender affirming care and
00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:42.339
hormones are optional. And obviously it's also
00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:45.940
weird that prisons do not, as John used to say,
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.759
they don't provide dental care. John had
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.369
a cavity. He went to the dentist and he said,
00:29:52.410 --> 00:29:54.809
all we do is just try to tough it out because
00:29:54.809 --> 00:29:57.750
all I can do is pull your tooth, which will only,
00:29:57.789 --> 00:30:00.470
by the way, hurt your overall health even more
00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:03.170
after I do it because you're much more prone
00:30:03.170 --> 00:30:05.569
to infection. Your gum health is really important
00:30:05.569 --> 00:30:08.410
to your general health. So it's weird that they
00:30:08.410 --> 00:30:11.170
won't provide you with the $200 that you need
00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:14.349
to fill a cavity, but they'll pay $20,000 for
00:30:14.349 --> 00:30:17.470
gender-affirming care. But that said, it's
00:30:17.470 --> 00:30:20.339
when you think about all the stupid shit
00:30:20.339 --> 00:30:22.559
that the federal government spends money on, including
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.839
these aforementioned wars. And you think about
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.799
the, we don't know what's going to
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.660
fucking happen if these trans women are
00:30:32.660 --> 00:30:35.099
cut off and they might lose their minds and commit
00:30:35.099 --> 00:30:39.730
suicide. It's kind of like, my tendency is,
00:30:39.789 --> 00:30:42.210
I don't even pretend to understand gender dysphoria.
00:30:42.630 --> 00:30:47.809
I don't. But it's kind of like, why are
00:30:47.809 --> 00:30:50.250
you picking on these fucking people? Just
00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:59.059
leave him alone. It's complicated, right? I agree
00:30:59.059 --> 00:31:02.359
with you about the distraction part, that they
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.619
don't, nobody in America sat there and
00:31:06.619 --> 00:31:09.259
thought to themselves, man, we really need to
00:31:09.259 --> 00:31:10.900
do something about these trans people in prison.
00:31:11.579 --> 00:31:16.420
Nobody thinks that, right? There's 2% of a population,
00:31:16.619 --> 00:31:19.609
maybe three, that really, really...
00:31:19.609 --> 00:31:22.349
Like where it gets into them and riles them up. This Project
00:31:22.349 --> 00:31:24.509
2025 stuff, right? This is raw meat for its
00:31:24.509 --> 00:31:28.250
base. This is not something that ultimately matters.
00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:33.029
It's a wedge issue. There is no such thing as
00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:38.109
cis women. They're just women. I understand why
00:31:38.109 --> 00:31:43.210
trans women would like to add some kind of other
00:31:43.210 --> 00:31:46.650
moniker to it. They're just women. Trans women
00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:51.470
in this case is the
00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:55.089
distinction, not women, if that makes sense. Women are just women.
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.019
Trans women are something else, are people who,
00:31:59.099 --> 00:32:01.319
as you might say, gender dysphoria, or basically
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.660
people who are men who consider themselves to
00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:08.440
be women. There's an honest argument to be made
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:13.900
on whether or not men who call themselves women
00:32:13.900 --> 00:32:16.950
should be put into a woman's prison. Absolutely.
00:32:16.970 --> 00:32:20.809
There's a valid question about that. Yeah, I
00:32:20.809 --> 00:32:22.990
think that's a valid question. And this goes
00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:25.470
into the whole women's bathroom stuff. Should
00:32:25.470 --> 00:32:30.009
trans men be allowed into women's bathrooms and
00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:33.130
women's spaces or in women's sports? The sports
00:32:33.130 --> 00:32:34.470
thing is another really good example. It's a
00:32:34.470 --> 00:32:37.329
valid question. It doesn't affect a whole shit
00:32:37.329 --> 00:32:40.009
ton of people. I think the answer should be no.
00:32:40.450 --> 00:32:42.589
How many trans people does anyone even know,
00:32:42.750 --> 00:32:44.970
right? I would love to know what
00:32:44.970 --> 00:32:48.210
is the average number of trans people that the
00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:51.990
average American citizen knows? That's a fair
00:32:51.990 --> 00:32:56.130
point. 0.01, right? But it obviously becomes
00:32:56.130 --> 00:32:58.609
a thing when it's, okay, trans people want
00:32:58.609 --> 00:33:01.269
to play sports. And I got to be honest with you,
00:33:01.309 --> 00:33:03.190
I took a left-wing position on this until I
00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:04.710
started talking to other women and women felt
00:33:04.710 --> 00:33:06.789
some kind of way about it, where they were like,
00:33:06.930 --> 00:33:09.190
why is it right for them to be able to take
00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:12.990
our spaces. We're in our own space in regards
00:33:12.990 --> 00:33:15.289
to women's sports, women's volleyball, women's
00:33:15.289 --> 00:33:17.690
whatever. And they already are disadvantaged,
00:33:17.930 --> 00:33:20.269
they receive less funding, less attention.
00:33:20.329 --> 00:33:22.569
Exactly. And that was the argument, right? It's
00:33:22.569 --> 00:33:24.730
why is this fair? Why are they able to
00:33:24.730 --> 00:33:27.309
take our space? It's not fair. If you had a friend
00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:31.630
who was competing, look, I dated an Olympic fencer
00:33:31.630 --> 00:33:36.160
when I was in college. Did you? And she
00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:38.240
Look, she couldn't have competed. She
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.440
was a kick-ass fencer, man. There's no fucking
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.299
way she could have fenced against. She
00:33:43.299 --> 00:33:45.819
said she would lose to me just simply
00:33:45.819 --> 00:33:49.299
because I have long arms. Simple. It's
00:33:49.299 --> 00:33:51.039
just physicality. She was a short little
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.299
thing. By the way, the best monster watch thing
00:33:52.299 --> 00:33:55.579
was another big one where it was, I watched
00:33:55.579 --> 00:34:02.809
a trans woman, basically a man as a woman, beat
00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:05.029
the living shit out of another, of a real woman.
00:34:05.569 --> 00:34:09.750
And I was like, no, this is a no. The first time
00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:12.349
I saw it, I was like, this is a no. This is just
00:34:12.349 --> 00:34:15.130
a man beating a woman to death. Yeah, I saw that.
00:34:15.829 --> 00:34:18.789
It was hard to watch, man. Yeah, it was hard
00:34:18.789 --> 00:34:21.690
to watch. And you never see it the other way
00:34:21.690 --> 00:34:24.269
around. You never see it where it's a woman who
00:34:24.269 --> 00:34:27.949
goes as a trans man and gets into boxing or gets
00:34:27.949 --> 00:34:30.510
into mixed martial arts. And you only see it
00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:32.090
in one direction because that's where the advantage
00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:37.269
is. Right. I understand what trans people will
00:34:37.269 --> 00:34:39.289
make the argument, where it's no difference.
00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:41.250
You take the estrogen, everything's the
00:34:41.250 --> 00:34:44.789
same. Nonsense. Let's just say this. It's far
00:34:44.789 --> 00:34:47.289
from widely accepted that that's true,
00:34:47.329 --> 00:34:49.309
right? Yeah, I don't accept that to be true.
00:34:49.469 --> 00:34:51.670
Especially after watching that. And at
00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:54.489
some of the points, especially when the
00:34:54.489 --> 00:34:56.570
people were taking it, after a military
00:34:56.570 --> 00:34:59.860
career, they're adults. And then they're like,
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.719
okay, now we're taking estrogen and now we're
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.030
going into sports. It just seems outrageous to
00:35:05.030 --> 00:35:07.570
me. But surely there must be, I guess
00:35:07.570 --> 00:35:09.269
my point, all those things are true.
00:35:09.409 --> 00:35:11.690
But I also think in the federal
00:35:11.690 --> 00:35:13.250
prison system. The same logic applied to the
00:35:13.250 --> 00:35:15.309
criminal system. The federal prison system is
00:35:15.309 --> 00:35:18.610
vast, right? It's the gulag archipelago of our
00:35:18.610 --> 00:35:22.550
time. Surely it is possible in the United
00:35:22.550 --> 00:35:26.550
States, this is to have one prison that is dedicated
00:35:26.550 --> 00:35:31.730
to trans women and trans men and has a wing for
00:35:31.730 --> 00:35:34.329
them. Right. And that's the place where they
00:35:34.329 --> 00:35:37.130
are sent. It's in Oklahoma, middle of the country.
00:35:37.349 --> 00:35:40.610
So it's as easy as less hard as possible
00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:44.110
for people to visit. And surely that's not hard
00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:47.269
to do. Just cut off Israel for
00:35:47.269 --> 00:35:50.389
a couple of hours and build that facility. Yeah,
00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:52.269
because I don't want to be an abuse in either
00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:54.550
case. Meaning I don't want to be in a situation
00:35:54.550 --> 00:35:56.190
where they've been abused, nor do I want to be
00:35:56.190 --> 00:35:58.969
in a situation where they're in with other real
00:35:58.969 --> 00:36:01.150
women. Yeah, it's just not good either
00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:05.769
way. Right. One thing I got to say, JT, thank
00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:10.090
you. Because as someone from the lefty, I know
00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:12.170
you're going to take a lot of crap for what you've
00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:15.650
said. And I appreciate it. Because I have a daughter.
00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:20.849
Well, because a lot of people are going to say,
00:36:20.869 --> 00:36:23.869
Ted, are going to say that you're marginalizing
00:36:23.869 --> 00:36:27.469
the trans people, that you don't think that guys,
00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:29.210
that chicks with dicks shouldn't be in there
00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:32.869
with other girls. Listen, I know how it is. And
00:36:32.869 --> 00:36:34.989
seriously, I just want to say thank you because
00:36:34.989 --> 00:36:38.030
I respect people who are crazy over this stuff.
00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:40.090
Not to mention they're sharing cells, right?
00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:42.570
They literally are taking a shit. They have to
00:36:42.570 --> 00:36:44.469
dress and undress in front of each other in the
00:36:44.469 --> 00:36:48.269
same tiny little cells. It's
00:36:48.269 --> 00:36:50.429
no, it's just not a good
00:36:50.429 --> 00:36:53.849
idea. Right. I just don't like the idea of,
00:36:53.849 --> 00:36:58.010
even look, I respect the hell out of the trans
00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:01.159
community in the sense of the shit that they
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.260
take on and what they have to go through. But
00:37:05.260 --> 00:37:07.000
at the same token, I have to also look at it
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.820
from the standpoint of, okay, these are women
00:37:08.820 --> 00:37:10.599
in prison, and these are guys who are calling
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.159
themselves women with penises, as you point out,
00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:15.860
taking a dump in front of this other woman, getting
00:37:15.860 --> 00:37:18.039
dressed in front of this other woman. I understand
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.639
many of them see themselves as women. That's
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.780
fair enough. From my point of view, it's an XY
00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:26.619
chromosome. This is not an issue of what I think
00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:28.639
or what I feel. It's just an issue of what is.
00:37:30.269 --> 00:37:33.389
It's not this is not me marginalizing
00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:36.889
or me. I was just trying to come up with a solution.
00:37:37.050 --> 00:37:42.070
But what troubles me is, okay, so the prison
00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:44.849
thing seems to me like it's a problem that is
00:37:44.849 --> 00:37:48.070
easily resolved. All you need is a facility for
00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:51.269
them. The end. Now, women in sports is far more
00:37:51.269 --> 00:37:53.190
tricky. It's far more difficult. I don't know
00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:55.829
how you fix it. Because there aren't enough of
00:37:55.829 --> 00:37:58.230
them to create a league for them as a separate
00:37:58.230 --> 00:38:01.980
category. If one out of three American
00:38:01.980 --> 00:38:05.039
citizens was trans, well, no problem. You just
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:06.940
have a separate league for trans women and for
00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:09.579
trans men and for cis men and for cis women.
00:38:09.659 --> 00:38:12.340
The end. You have four leagues. We should not,
00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:17.329
marginalize or...
00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:19.429
There should be no
00:38:19.429 --> 00:38:20.929
racial animosity. Not racial animosity. There
00:38:20.929 --> 00:38:22.710
should be no animosity towards the trans community
00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:24.389
at all. I want them to have all the rights and
00:38:24.389 --> 00:38:25.909
everything else that everybody else has. And
00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:28.690
they should be protected, just like everyone
00:38:28.690 --> 00:38:31.789
else should be protected, but is not in prison.
00:38:31.789 --> 00:38:36.809
Right, but that's the complication
00:38:36.809 --> 00:38:39.159
because women will feel some kind
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.739
of way because regardless of you telling women,
00:38:41.739 --> 00:38:43.500
hey they're real women, because on
00:38:43.500 --> 00:38:46.320
the left they would say well they're real women
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.400
and it's like but they're not. Yeah, no, on the
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.800
left I hear that too. Oh they're just
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.340
the same as regular women. That's nonsense.
00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:55.960
Well first of all if that were true they wouldn't
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.400
need a separate name they wouldn't be called
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.820
something different, right? I guess
00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:04.400
buzzards and vultures are the same, but
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.380
there's a distinction and we all know the
00:39:06.380 --> 00:39:12.429
distinction. Do men watch trans porn? Some might.
00:39:12.929 --> 00:39:17.550
And most trans women who were born men are, they
00:39:17.690 --> 00:39:19.849
self-identify as lesbians, right?
00:39:19.909 --> 00:39:22.630
Because they're still attracted to women. Most
00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:26.050
of them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different
00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:28.480
category. That's also part of the problem. Yeah,
00:39:28.579 --> 00:39:29.900
it's a different category. It's complicated.
00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:32.639
But as you point out, creating a different
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.079
wing for the president might just be the - But
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.239
also, fuck Donald Trump, right?
00:39:36.340 --> 00:39:42.550
Nothing pisses me off more than when rich, powerful
00:39:42.550 --> 00:39:44.869
the most rich and most powerful people in the
00:39:44.869 --> 00:39:48.329
country decide to target the poorest and most
00:39:48.329 --> 00:39:50.289
vulnerable people in the country which trans
00:39:50.289 --> 00:39:53.969
people are and so him it's just purely for
00:39:53.969 --> 00:39:56.409
political reasons. It's disgusting political experience.
00:39:56.409 --> 00:39:58.829
Yeah it's so funny this is just red meat to the
00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:02.050
base. Nobody woke up thinking to themselves we
00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.090
got to do something about the trans prison population.
00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:07.650
Yeah nobody thought about doing that except for
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.340
No, no. It's just yeah. Robby,
00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:13.360
do you, how much time do you spend worrying about
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.980
trans women in prison? Well, for one
00:40:15.980 --> 00:40:19.389
thing, I've already said this. I
00:40:19.389 --> 00:40:23.190
reject it. I reject the category writ large.
00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:25.809
If you look down, if you have external
00:40:25.809 --> 00:40:28.269
plumbing, you're a dude, you can cosplay as whatever
00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:30.190
it is that you want. That's fine. Some people
00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:32.469
get it cut off. Nope. That's fine.
00:40:32.570 --> 00:40:35.070
But genetics is still a thing. But to answer
00:40:35.070 --> 00:40:40.289
your question, not even a moment of time. This
00:40:40.289 --> 00:40:43.429
is all a distraction. Right, right. As far as
00:40:43.429 --> 00:40:46.369
prison goes, I've always assumed, you drop your
00:40:46.369 --> 00:40:49.150
pants. If it's flapping in the wind, you go with
00:40:49.150 --> 00:40:51.309
the dudes. If it's not, if you have ovaries,
00:40:51.389 --> 00:40:53.570
you go with the girls. I don't know why
00:40:53.570 --> 00:40:57.750
this is so complicated. I don't get it. Yeah,
00:40:57.769 --> 00:40:59.670
no, it's... Biology is... Well, I think
00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:02.750
it's complicated because obviously a trans
00:41:02.750 --> 00:41:06.530
woman, for example, is going to likely be targeted
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:11.880
for violence in prison. Well, that's
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:14.820
a condemnation on the prison system at large.
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.199
How many men are raped in prison every single
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.860
day? It's not nearly as common as people think.
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.440
Well, the prison system should also be... Is
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.300
that as common as people think? Yeah, it's not.
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.159
Listen, the prison system needs to be abolished.
00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:31.599
True. It does not work. It is a for-profit institution
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.159
that has no purpose in existing. This is coming
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.980
from a righty. Yeah, no, it's disgusting. This
00:41:37.980 --> 00:41:40.099
has nothing to do with the dude who wants to
00:41:40.099 --> 00:41:42.619
wear a dress or somebody else. It's a
00:41:42.619 --> 00:41:45.340
total... What it is is a fucking waste of American
00:41:45.340 --> 00:41:48.239
potential is what it is. It is a grift. It's
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.119
literally there's... Who knows how many
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.760
fucking points of GDP could be released if you
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.880
released 99% of the prison population and you
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.519
were able to get them into productive work. Can
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.960
you imagine? What a fucking waste of...
00:42:05.139 --> 00:42:06.980
There's probably people who could invent a cure
00:42:06.980 --> 00:42:10.400
for cancer rotting in prison right now. It's stupid.
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.079
The entire point of prison is the brutality of
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.159
prison and to make people rich who put people
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.400
in cages, not in that order. That's
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.159
the goal. Yeah, the entire prisoners, the entire
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.340
prison system, politicians to look tough on crime
00:42:27.340 --> 00:42:29.699
when they run for re-election. Well that too.
00:42:29.699 --> 00:42:33.210
I'm sorry. We over-criminalize
00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:35.730
stuff way too much. It has to be a matter of restitution.
00:42:35.730 --> 00:42:38.369
When justice needs to be they need to
00:42:38.369 --> 00:42:40.190
be called on it should be swift it should be
00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:42.969
sure and that doesn't mean that she locks on
00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:45.909
to a cage for 30 years. Well that's not justice.
00:42:45.909 --> 00:42:49.090
The system never takes into account the system
00:42:49.090 --> 00:42:52.250
itself in the crime, meaning when they're
00:42:52.250 --> 00:42:54.010
when the judge is sitting up there and she's
00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:56.769
banging the gavel about this person who did
00:42:56.769 --> 00:42:58.809
something and I'm not talking about murder
00:42:58.809 --> 00:43:00.670
and stuff like that maybe I ain't talking about
00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:04.800
murder on some level. But people are
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.679
human nature's water and of us. And if you put
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.940
people in certain situations, crime becomes a
00:43:09.940 --> 00:43:13.719
rational act. And meaning from a societal standpoint,
00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:17.159
crime becomes a rational act. And the system
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.099
or society itself never takes into account the
00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:20.940
things that society does to push people into
00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:23.820
crime. They always make it as purely an individual
00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:27.530
act. You as an individual did this. Not you were
00:43:27.530 --> 00:43:29.650
born in a particular context and that particular
00:43:29.650 --> 00:43:31.989
context in this particular society pushed a person
00:43:31.989 --> 00:43:33.530
in a particular way where this was a rational
00:43:33.530 --> 00:43:37.289
act, whether it was thievery, robbery, robbery,
00:43:37.510 --> 00:43:42.389
thievery, same thing. Or crime in general,
00:43:42.389 --> 00:43:46.250
better societies. For example, James Baldwin
00:43:46.250 --> 00:43:48.769
made this point of saying about schools that
00:43:48.769 --> 00:43:51.469
are in disrepute, schools that are basically
00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:53.610
failing miserably. And he made the point of saying.
00:43:54.219 --> 00:43:56.659
Look, you can't make a great school in a bad
00:43:56.659 --> 00:43:59.559
community. It's impossible, right?
00:44:00.019 --> 00:44:01.659
It needs to be the other way around. You have
00:44:01.659 --> 00:44:03.219
to have a good community in order to have a good
00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:05.519
school. Beverly Hills is not going to have a
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.559
failing school because it's Beverly Hills. Compton
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.699
will have a failing school. It would be very
00:44:10.699 --> 00:44:13.039
difficult to make a successful school in Compton
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.260
because of the neighborhood being in disrepute.
00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:18.039
I think it's the same way in general about our
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.480
societies. Now, I agree with that. I used to
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.320
tutor at a school, at an intermediate high school,
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.699
which is basically a junior high school in East
00:44:25.699 --> 00:44:28.820
Harlem. And these were the best of the best.
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.440
These are kids who literally volunteered to stay
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.019
after school for extra math tutoring. OK, so
00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:39.500
how dorky were they? And those kids, they were,
00:44:39.659 --> 00:44:42.280
the stories that I would hear like.
00:44:42.849 --> 00:44:45.590
Oh, I come here because if I go home early
00:44:45.590 --> 00:44:48.070
I'll be, that's three hours of extra
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:50.690
beatings I'll be getting at home. It
00:44:50.690 --> 00:44:54.309
was just bone chilling. Yeah, I've said
00:44:54.309 --> 00:44:56.030
this numerous times. It comes down to
00:44:56.030 --> 00:45:00.360
a matter of restitution. If someone's a thief
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.199
and if they get caught for thieving they can't
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.179
pay back the person they stole from if they're
00:45:06.179 --> 00:45:08.199
locked in a cage. What you would do is that that
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.019
person would go work in a chain gang like in
00:45:10.019 --> 00:45:13.809
a cotton field, whatever. Whatever he earns goes
00:45:13.809 --> 00:45:16.250
towards paying restitution for the property that
00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:19.030
he stole. And once that's done, you're free.
00:45:19.269 --> 00:45:23.510
Go on your way. Might be in jail forever. You
00:45:23.510 --> 00:45:25.570
make like 10 cent on the chain gang. Oh, can
00:45:25.570 --> 00:45:27.949
you imagine if Sam Altman were sent to prison?
00:45:28.070 --> 00:45:30.369
Holy shit. He's left to live 5 million years
00:45:30.369 --> 00:45:33.309
to pay off for all the IP that he scraped. Let's
00:45:33.309 --> 00:45:36.789
do some comments. Melissa, they are men. They
00:45:36.789 --> 00:45:40.260
are men. Kilroy says, Teddy, you missed yesterday
00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:42.460
in my manifesto the Kami wealth redistribution
00:45:42.460 --> 00:45:45.480
plans to fix the system. Only caught the immigration
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.880
stuff. Okay, I'm sorry I just don't follow. Phileas
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.179
Fab, one out of two. I don't know why the new information.
00:45:51.179 --> 00:45:53.420
It was reported in the days after October 7th
00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:57.000
that Egypt had warned Israel. Yes, but this is the
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.599
UAE. So Syphilis says the information is that
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.099
many of them tried to get pressure him to lie.
00:46:04.099 --> 00:46:06.940
That was the new part of the story, that many
00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:11.590
who went to Abu Dhabi to try to get, what
00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:14.090
is his name? I could never, it's like he has
00:46:14.090 --> 00:46:21.119
like five names of UAE. Oh, that's Mohammed.
00:46:22.420 --> 00:46:26.619
Yeah, who went to UAE on Sunday to ask President
00:46:26.619 --> 00:46:32.059
Mohammed bin Zayed to deny that he had warned
00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:35.199
him about October 7th. So basically the new part
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.000
of the story is that he went there to try to
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.309
say, hey. Don't tell anybody that you weren't.
00:46:40.329 --> 00:46:42.730
Cover up for me. And then, of course, asking
00:46:42.730 --> 00:46:45.869
for the cover up got itself exposed. Exactly.
00:46:46.750 --> 00:46:49.949
It became the story in and of itself. Oh, the
00:46:49.949 --> 00:46:55.750
tangled web. Sure. Care for what? Just wear the
00:46:55.750 --> 00:46:58.030
dress and makeup. Okay, so there's a difference
00:46:58.030 --> 00:47:01.570
between transvesticism and transsexuality and
00:47:01.570 --> 00:47:04.559
trans... So, yeah, that's come on. It's
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.659
again, I don't pretend to understand this,
00:47:07.780 --> 00:47:11.460
or relate to it. But clearly it's a
00:47:11.460 --> 00:47:14.739
documented by professional psychiatrists
00:47:14.739 --> 00:47:17.579
and psychologists. It's a phenomenon. And
00:47:17.579 --> 00:47:20.860
I guess the thing is, my sympathy,
00:47:21.019 --> 00:47:23.679
I have to have sympathy because this is a population
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.179
that has the highest suicide rates in the country.
00:47:28.429 --> 00:47:31.050
And I care about that and I don't want that and
00:47:31.050 --> 00:47:33.710
I want that to be fixed. Right. So it's kind
00:47:33.710 --> 00:47:36.829
of like, OK, I'm not an expert on this, but I'm
00:47:36.829 --> 00:47:38.570
going to go with what the experts have to say.
00:47:38.769 --> 00:47:40.829
They might be wrong at this point and we might
00:47:40.829 --> 00:47:43.789
learn more. But and obviously I do have
00:47:43.789 --> 00:47:46.329
problems with the idea of, oh,
00:47:46.329 --> 00:47:49.010
gender affirming care for 12 year olds or whatever.
00:47:49.130 --> 00:47:51.849
But it's very almost basically never happens.
00:47:52.090 --> 00:47:57.900
So it's. So anyway. Democrats would hit Democrats
00:47:57.900 --> 00:48:00.679
with that all the time. It's because they
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.000
wouldn't, because it sounded like Joe Biden was
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.059
on board for it. And it sounded like the Democrats
00:48:06.059 --> 00:48:07.679
were on board for it. They were fighting for
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.320
it. Republicans would hit them with it constantly.
00:48:10.940 --> 00:48:13.920
Constantly. Filius at the same time. Now it's
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.519
the furries. They're after the furries. First
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.039
they came for the furries. But I said nothing
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.380
because I did not like to dress like an opossum
00:48:21.380 --> 00:48:28.840
while I was having sex. Oh God. Yeah, leave the
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.219
furries alone. It's also weird too because I heard
00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:34.320
about furries I think in the 80s and it's
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.079
all these years it's just sort of been
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.260
this thing that I knew existed and
00:48:38.260 --> 00:48:40.679
suddenly it goes into politics. How did that
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.219
happen? Yeah it's still a thing. People
00:48:43.219 --> 00:48:44.900
dressing up in costumes they're having sex in
00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:48.199
costumes. Which is wild to me. That's funny to
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:49.900
me. That's badass. Oh, it's hilarious.
00:48:50.179 --> 00:48:52.320
At Comic-Con, it's a big thing, right?
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.900
And I went to Comic-Con probably
00:48:54.940 --> 00:49:00.179
25 years in a row. And to hear other cartoonists
00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:03.079
of all stripes, they would talk about
00:49:03.099 --> 00:49:05.760
Comic-Con. And then the conversation of furries
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.119
would come up. And they'd be angry. They would
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:09.920
turn into right-wing conservatives.
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.369
Fucking furries are disgusting.
00:49:13.369 --> 00:49:16.250
Why they thought them and I was like
00:49:16.250 --> 00:49:18.949
why are they disgusting are they hurting anyone?
00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:22.030
It's just so disgusting and foul.
00:49:22.030 --> 00:49:25.110
There was something about it that rubs the cartoonist
00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:28.489
mind the wrong way. What do they do, cut out
00:49:28.489 --> 00:49:32.590
a little dick hole? I believe so. I have not.
00:49:32.590 --> 00:49:35.170
I swear to God I've never been present when this
00:49:35.170 --> 00:49:39.110
was happening. But I, you've had an interesting
00:49:39.110 --> 00:49:41.309
life, Ted Rall. I can't believe that you haven't
00:49:41.309 --> 00:49:43.869
experienced. I've experienced some wild shit,
00:49:43.929 --> 00:49:48.230
but not that. No. Yeah.
00:49:48.230 --> 00:49:50.769
I was like, all right, whatever. You guys do you.
00:49:50.909 --> 00:49:54.530
You fucking weirdos. Enjoy. Yeah. The
00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:56.610
only thing, just make sure you wash off those
00:49:56.610 --> 00:49:59.650
costumes when you're done. It must
00:49:59.650 --> 00:50:03.340
not be easy to keep them clean. Golden Talon
00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:05.659
says men can't become women women can't become
00:50:05.659 --> 00:50:08.280
men. Ellen Page is not a man because she cut her
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:15.800
tits off. Well, okay, no, you can't
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.619
You can't change your genetic coding. By the way that's
00:50:18.619 --> 00:50:20.980
probably going to be possible in the not distant
00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:24.280
future that you will be able with CRISPR to
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.679
alter your gene, your basic
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.500
genetic code. I think would consider other
00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:34.780
people women and men. Look, maybe
00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:38.360
in the future, right, where you can switch over
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.550
and everything is different, where you grow a
00:50:41.550 --> 00:50:45.369
vagina, your penis. Yeah. Well, at that point,
00:50:45.389 --> 00:50:50.530
then there's no difference, right? Really? I
00:50:50.530 --> 00:50:52.590
mean, at that point, the only difference is going
00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:55.190
to be your psychological, which is not a small
00:50:55.190 --> 00:50:57.409
thing, your psychological memories of having
00:50:57.409 --> 00:51:00.469
been the other sex. So you are, that's definitely
00:51:00.469 --> 00:51:02.730
going to change you and make you different if
00:51:02.730 --> 00:51:05.789
you grew up. One thing if you change to another.
00:51:05.789 --> 00:51:09.130
Yeah, there will be a little
00:51:09.130 --> 00:51:12.489
it'll be subtler. They'll be like Altered Carbon
00:51:12.489 --> 00:51:16.130
like the television show, right? Movie. What? Hey.
00:51:16.130 --> 00:51:18.309
Maybe Blue Funk says if you give a shit about
00:51:18.309 --> 00:51:20.010
women maybe listen to women instead of projecting
00:51:20.010 --> 00:51:22.900
your bizarre savior fantasies on them. Hey, I
00:51:22.900 --> 00:51:24.960
don't know about you guys, about you, but I'm
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.960
not trying to say, I think that
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.280
I'm putting my mind in the, trying
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.639
to project myself into, God forbid, if I were
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.119
in charge of the Bureau of Prisons,
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.039
how I would handle this. We're in charge
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.059
of this population of hundreds of thousands,
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.780
millions of Americans. What do you do?
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.730
How do you, how do you,
00:51:46.750 --> 00:51:48.849
honestly, there's an argument to be made for
00:51:48.849 --> 00:51:53.949
co-ed prisons, right? No. Really? No. I think
00:51:53.949 --> 00:51:56.170
there is. Yeah, because single-sex environments
00:51:56.170 --> 00:51:58.829
are toxic at work. Why would they not be toxic
00:51:58.829 --> 00:52:02.750
in prison? Think about it. And not to
00:52:02.750 --> 00:52:05.969
mention, it's not a single-sex environment anyway,
00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:08.289
because the guards in women's prisons are men
00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:10.650
anyway. I would give you that if rapists are
00:52:10.650 --> 00:52:13.389
executed, because why would you put women in
00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:16.550
a cage with a guy who has a history of forcing
00:52:16.550 --> 00:52:19.170
himself onto women? Yeah, or just violent
00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:22.619
in general. That's a good point. I wouldn't dare
00:52:22.619 --> 00:52:27.510
quit. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Ted, that's dumb.
00:52:28.090 --> 00:52:29.449
You got to think that one through there, brother.
00:52:29.570 --> 00:52:30.769
I'll think it through. It's just literally
00:52:30.769 --> 00:52:33.889
just came up here on the air, spitballing. All
00:52:33.889 --> 00:52:40.670
right. Okay. Andre, Robby in Alberta. They banned
00:52:40.670 --> 00:52:43.429
rainbow flags and propaganda in schools. Thankfully,
00:52:43.489 --> 00:52:45.849
my kid isn't being suggested things. But I heard
00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:48.750
a few U.S. states banned it as well lately.
00:52:49.010 --> 00:52:53.130
I doubt that rainbow flags are causing anyone
00:52:53.130 --> 00:52:56.110
to cut off their dicks and become girls. I don't
00:52:56.110 --> 00:52:59.849
buy that. I think people are what they are.
00:52:59.849 --> 00:53:02.829
True, that may be the thing of people experimenting
00:53:02.829 --> 00:53:05.639
where they may be confused. But I think people
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.099
are what they are. Certainly there is
00:53:07.099 --> 00:53:09.159
such a thing as what the right would call social
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:11.659
contagion. Sort of like LUGS,
00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:15.039
lesbians until graduation. I observed that.
00:53:15.139 --> 00:53:18.179
That's definitely a thing. I had a roommate
00:53:18.179 --> 00:53:22.059
who, all his gay. He had a lot of gay friends
00:53:22.059 --> 00:53:23.940
and they kept telling him, dude, you're gay.
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:27.039
And he was like and I was like, dude, you're
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.199
not gay. You're not gay. It's cool if you were
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.570
gay, but you're not. And then he was like. So
00:53:32.570 --> 00:53:34.250
anyway, they were like, come to Miami. You'll
00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:37.289
see that you're gay. So he went and spent
00:53:37.289 --> 00:53:40.570
a long weekend in Miami Beach with his gay friends.
00:53:40.730 --> 00:53:44.369
He came back and I was like, so how was it? And
00:53:44.369 --> 00:53:45.929
he was just like, I don't really want to talk
00:53:45.929 --> 00:53:48.309
about it. And I was like, okay. And then he was
00:53:48.309 --> 00:53:51.590
like, and then finally over drinks he goes, I'm
00:53:51.590 --> 00:53:55.210
not gay. Yeah. Yeah. Did you enjoy
00:53:55.210 --> 00:54:00.030
that ass rimming? I did not. I did not enjoy
00:54:00.030 --> 00:54:03.369
it. I am not a gay man. I'm not a gay man, yeah.
00:54:03.590 --> 00:54:05.670
I have evidence, I have proof that
00:54:05.670 --> 00:54:08.949
I'm not a gay man. Also, so we may be fucking
00:54:08.949 --> 00:54:10.750
up with the trans argument because it's
00:54:10.769 --> 00:54:13.210
scary. It's a scary subject
00:54:13.210 --> 00:54:16.550
to talk about. But we did, I do want to take
00:54:16.550 --> 00:54:19.429
a victory dance. We did call it yesterday. The
00:54:19.429 --> 00:54:23.269
five guys who were arrested by an air base in
00:54:23.269 --> 00:54:26.670
Britain for a possible terrorist explosives act
00:54:26.670 --> 00:54:31.610
are now out on bail very clearly. They didn't
00:54:31.610 --> 00:54:35.510
do shit. And very clearly, they're going to drop
00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:38.809
all the charges. And we said that yesterday.
00:54:38.929 --> 00:54:42.969
We were like, this smells like the usual Gretchen
00:54:42.969 --> 00:54:46.449
Whitmer kidnap plot. Probably didn't happen.
00:54:46.650 --> 00:54:50.070
It's just some Karen dropped a dime. And
00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:53.480
now. They needed to show that they
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:55.719
were doing something. Hence, they rounded up
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:02.170
five guys who are probably. Yeah. Yeah. So that's
00:55:02.170 --> 00:55:05.590
DeProgram. Next time you hear about a terrorist
00:55:05.590 --> 00:55:08.309
plot, check us out. Nine times out of ten, it's
00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:10.510
bullshit. Everyone is guilty of something. They
00:55:10.510 --> 00:55:12.710
should have held them on jaywalking. They could
00:55:12.710 --> 00:55:15.530
have got them on. They could find something.
00:55:17.650 --> 00:55:19.849
It's wild, right? They've been doing
00:55:19.849 --> 00:55:21.230
this. What's their Facebook profile? Did they
00:55:21.230 --> 00:55:24.820
make an offensive post? It's wild. The
00:55:24.820 --> 00:55:28.119
idea that we are sitting here and
00:55:28.219 --> 00:55:30.239
yeah, those guys are probably innocent. They tend to
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.030
round people up. And come to find out that's
00:55:32.030 --> 00:55:33.510
exactly what happened. They rounded these guys
00:55:33.510 --> 00:55:36.380
up. Who knows if they did anything or not. But
00:55:36.380 --> 00:55:38.199
obviously, if they believe they did something,
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.900
they wouldn't be letting them go. No. And the
00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:44.960
thing is, your rights as a criminal suspect in
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.000
the UK are much more circumscribed than those
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.239
in the United States. So the fact that
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.389
they let them out so quickly, I guarantee you
00:55:55.389 --> 00:55:58.190
those charges are being dropped like post haste.
00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:01.320
Yeah. It's an embarrassment. Honestly, they shouldn't
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:03.539
announce. If I were them from a communication
00:56:03.539 --> 00:56:05.500
strategy point of view, I just wouldn't even
00:56:05.500 --> 00:56:08.280
announce this shit. I would just let it
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.380
go. I'd just be like, let's bring them in, ask
00:56:12.380 --> 00:56:15.340
them some questions. And if we charge them and
00:56:15.340 --> 00:56:18.380
we're sure, then call a press conference. Don't
00:56:18.380 --> 00:56:20.780
say anything until you're sure. It's so embarrassing.
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:24.119
I assume they have other reasons for
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:27.199
doing that. Like either, hey, look at what we're
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.340
doing. There was a bomb thing and look, we've
00:56:29.340 --> 00:56:31.900
rounded people up for it. We're keeping you safe.
00:56:32.420 --> 00:56:34.739
Maybe people don't see the second story of we
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let these people out a day later. An hour
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later, right? Speaking of national security states,
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fucking up, we got to talk about the
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I spy for the FBI. So a criminal hacking group
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called Shiny Hunters basically dumped reams
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of personal data on the dark web. The New York
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Times found it and they reviewed it. Tens of
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thousands of current and former FBI employees
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and agents and contacts, all of their shit, social
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security numbers, their assignments, all of their
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shit that can burn them has all been exposed.
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The group is giving them until Tuesday. The only
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demand, which is by tonight, in other words,
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They want the FBI to basically stop fucking with
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them because they basically make money hacking
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into things. Leave Shiny Hunters alone and we
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will not expose your people. But then Shiny Hunters
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said, we were never going to burn everyone. We
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just wanted to threaten them. Okay, but they
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put the shit on the dark web. I know. It sounds
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like it's a lot of very young people. I know,
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but the belief that the FBI is not going to mess
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with you now that you've exposed all of these
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members of the FBI to potential death is... I
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have to admit, I kind of wish it was more of
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a political thing where they had just done it
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and been like, the FBI is a surveillance mechanism
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and should be exposed and fuck them and here
00:58:12.469 --> 00:58:15.309
it is. Instead of just, it's just a business.
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Yeah, just stop messing with us and we'll leave
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you alone. Unless, could we be, could this be
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a misdirection? Could it be actually a political
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act and it's being mischaracterized by the media?
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Wouldn't be the first time. Everybody already
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knows. Everybody already knows that the government's
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spying on us. There's nothing to expose. We all
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know it. Yeah, there's nothing to expose on that
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front. So it seems like it may just be
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leave us alone so we can continue to rob
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and make money off of people through scams and whatever
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the hell we're doing from sample to packing. But
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the FBI is never going to do that, meaning
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they're never going to look at this and say what
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they're going to. What the FBI is, you're a threat.
00:58:54.269 --> 00:58:57.010
We're going to, we're going to. Yeah, now they're
00:58:57.010 --> 00:58:58.690
yeah there's a task. We're going to create a task
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force and we are going to find you and put you
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out of business. It's going to be that, meaning
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they got this wrong if that's indeed what they
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are. If that's indeed their plan this is kind
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of like Europe. If we just keep pushing the
00:59:11.210 --> 00:59:12.969
Russians will come to the table and negotiate.
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No they're not. No they're going to be more brutal.
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The FBI, meaning you've just put all of these
00:59:19.730 --> 00:59:22.690
people's names on a list as you point out some
00:59:22.690 --> 00:59:25.909
of these people may be in threat of death depending
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upon the position that they're in or whatever
00:59:27.550 --> 00:59:30.809
they're doing regarding their spy work and you
00:59:30.809 --> 00:59:32.750
think the FBI is going to look at that and say
00:59:32.750 --> 00:59:34.289
to themselves oh we need to leave these guys
00:59:34.289 --> 00:59:37.739
alone? No I don't know what. Well it's
00:59:37.739 --> 00:59:39.400
kind of like the same misapprehension. It's the
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.960
same mistake that Imperial Japan made
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:43.719
when they attacked Pearl Harbor. They thought
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:45.739
they were squatting a dog on the nose and that
00:59:45.739 --> 00:59:47.599
we would just go away and leave them alone. The
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.460
baby in the crib. Yeah you're not doing that. No
00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:52.219
it's not going to work that way. Yeah you just
00:59:52.219 --> 00:59:54.159
don't know. You just don't know the U.S. has
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a thousand different three-name organizations
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that are going to be looking at you now in order
01:00:00.900 --> 01:00:02.880
to dismantle that particular group and come after
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:04.559
that group. Yeah, they will not. They're not
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going to stop and they have endless resources
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.639
and more than you do. And as smart as you are,
01:00:09.739 --> 01:00:12.420
they're bigger than you are. That does it for
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today. TMI show coming up with Manila and I in
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just a minute. Stay tuned on YouTube and Rumble.
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And thank you for doing that. We'll be back with
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the full two hour show tomorrow, Wednesday, 9
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a.m. to 11 a.m. Eastern time. Thanks, Robby.
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Thanks, Jamarl. Have a good one, guys.