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Welcome to the Deep Diving in the Speakeasy podcast with your hosts, Justin Reno and Bart Avery.
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Hey, super excited to be back here in the uh Speakeasy.
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And uh this, of course, is uh still season one.
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This is episode two of Deep Diving in the Speakeasy in the top secret speakeasy that only a few of us know where it exists at.
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Very small few.
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Kind of kind of cool thing here, and it's uh with Justin and Bart.
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And before I introduce our amazing guest tonight, um just want to say that uh we start the show off asking cigar or no cigar.
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So this is Mr.
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Lamont Van Hook, who will give much further introduction, but cigar or no cigar tonight.
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Always, always a cigar.
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Justin, what do you think?
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Are you gonna do a cigar?
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Yeah, okay.
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All right, I think it'd be heresy if I if I didn't, I feel I just got one more thing to say here, and then I'll start lighting up mine, and you can kind of take over here.
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But um, so um oh, the other question we always have is um would you like an adult beverage?
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There it is.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah, I guess that's a yes.
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So we just want to thank I just this is a new addition to the podcast.
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So we have our bartender, Buzz, who just I'm I'm drinking a red wine.
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Thanks, Buzz.
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So Buzz is actually an interesting character.
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Um we're not gonna tell you a whole lot about him, but he's over here, he just stays really quiet.
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But he's a double lefty, and I've never met a double lefty in my life.
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And what that means is he's yeah, he literally has two left hands, right?
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It's really weird, man.
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I don't know how you do that, buddy.
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Okay, but uh yeah, thanks for the wine.
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Okay, so we're all served here by Buzz.
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I wonder how his how his golf game is.
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Double left-handed.
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I don't know how you know that's kind of a weird one, but apparently he's really good at opening bottles of wine with that uh the two left hands.
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So I'm lighting my cigar.
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So um, before I take my first puff, let's do a proper introduction to Mr.
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Lamont Van Hook.
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Um tell us a little bit about yourself, my friend.
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I um I was gonna be really silly.
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Let's let's start with that.
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We like we like silliness.
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We like silliness.
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It's the beauty of this, man.
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You literally received no guidance or any rules when you walked in and started to do this, and that's the beauty of this, is that you you can do legitimately whatever you want.
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Just go for it.
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If you if you want to do like an Irish jig while talking on here, you can.
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It's okay, and it's fine.
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I don't know if you're Irish or not.
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I am part Irish.
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Aren't we all?
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Actually, okay.
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And I actually Especially in St.
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Patrick's Day, right?
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Everybody's Irish, yeah.
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Gotta have a green.
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I actually uh researched getting an Irish passport.
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Um my great-grandmother was full Irish.
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Okay.
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And in my investigation, I found out that my mother was still eligible to apply, but that's as far as they would go back.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But yeah.
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Okay.
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Right on the on my Irish uh can phone.
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Yeah.
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Alrighty, then I liked it.
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I like it.
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So we'd like to go right to the right to the basics.
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So you grew up in the Oakland area, correct?
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That's where you were born?
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I did, in the East Bay.
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East Bay, okay.
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Um, we need it.
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We need a cut, we need a cutter for uh, I think we uh see Buzz.
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Hey Buzz.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't pre-cut.
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Buzz doesn't do Buzz doesn't do the cigars, he just does the drinks, but that's okay.
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Because he can't cut a cigar with two left hands.
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It's kind of weird.
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Okay, there it goes.
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We're gonna have to show Buzz how to get that.
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Yeah, no, we got we got the cigar thing.
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That's a major critical part of this whole uh podcast is to get the cigars going right.
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So anyway, you started uh you grew up in Oakland?
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I didn't know in the East Bay.
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Okay.
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I did, and I still love the East Bay.
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I was just home uh maybe three weeks ago, and you know, so many things are the same, but the traffic is worse than I remember it.
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You know, it's not quite as gnarly as LA traffic, but it is getting there.
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It's getting there, but uh yeah, I love the bay.
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Yeah, okay.
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So you um obviously we're gonna get into your incredible career, but um maybe just give us a little uh taste of your childhood growing up in the Bay Area and kind of you know what were your influences to get to you get you to where you are today.
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I was always around music.
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Uh my mom and some of my cousins were in a gospel six tech uh called the Spiritual S, and I was a rehearsal baby and I looked forward to going to rehearsals, and usually they would make the kids like go in one of the spare bedrooms and play or watch cartoons or something while the adults were working and rehearsing, but uh they figured out very early on that I liked being in the room.
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I liked being in the room where the music was being made.
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So uh, you know, grew up doing that and uh in the bands in in school and and grew up started playing in in church and playing clubs when I was, I think, 14.
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Um not by the book, because I was way underage.
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My uh cousin used to put me in one of his oversized coats and and take some mascara and draw a mustache on my face and tell me to play.
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I was playing drums at that time and tell me to play.
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Oh, you were playing drums?
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I didn't know.
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I was playing drums at that time.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Uh and tell me to just play with my head down because I was singing and playing drums.
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But uh Yeah, I wouldn't trade a moment of that for nothing in this world.
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It was good.
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And and and just so we without skipping ahead too much here, uh, for people that may just be listening to this podcast and wondering who the heck Lamont Van Hook is.
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Yes.
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Um yeah, it's singing is your life, I would say, and you have a lot of other interesting aspects in your life, but that's why we're kind of doing our deep dive here in your early ages of what got you into the whole music scene.
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So your your uh your folks or your your uh siblings got you uh were encouraging you, or yeah, that's good, man.
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My entire both sides of my family are very uh musical, and and that was my biggest training ground watching my parents and my cousins and my grandparents and my aunties and uncles sing and play their instruments.
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And just awestruck every time.
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Every time.
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Just awestruck and couldn't wait to grow up and be able to do that.
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Okay.
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Yeah, you know I I let me just say, you said something about a band, your first band.
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Did you I mean did you guys have a name?
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Um did you did you do a few shows together or we were playing clubs, and my cousin Bill Alams was the band leader, and I think the band was called the Sound Machine, I think.
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I was 14, and I'm not 14 anymore.
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That was a long time ago.
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Trying to remember, but I think the name of the band was The Sound Machine.
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We'll go with that, right?
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Yeah, and you came up with that name.
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No, I was glad to be able to do that.
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You can take credit for it.
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It's okay if you want to.
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Hey, all right, then fine.
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All right, this yeah, it was all my idea.
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Didn't didn't that didn't that name get used again down the road that maybe you could like have a lawsuit or something like that?
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Yeah, I I've I've heard of it, yes.
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Didn't Barry Gordy or somebody like that like kind of steal that from you?
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So now again, Justin, yeah, that was not my idea.
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I did not make that.
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All right.
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Good.
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That's on tape now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's great, dude.
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So you're in high school, you're uh getting good grades, I assume, or are you just kind of I was a decent student when I cared to be.
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Right.
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I was a decent student when I didn't care to be.
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I was you know, but I can't I yeah, I made I made good grades because my mother more than my dad was more uh uh adamant about keeping the grades up.
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Okay, and then yeah, did you did you kind of like at some point in your life just go like 100% this is what I'm gonna do.
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I'm gonna be a singer.
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Yes, and there's a story there.
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Let's hear it.
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That's what this is all about, brothers.
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There we go.
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Our first our first story of the of the episode.
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I can't wait.
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So my dad and my brother bonded, one of their bonding points was over sports, which was so not my thing.
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Uh, but I kind of not fake the funk, I kind of uh participated to kind of be able to hang out with them.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, my uh brother was really good at baseball and football and water skiing and snow skiing and just a real athlete.
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I wanted to play my music, play my records, and play my piano.
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Uh but I, eighth grade, I think it was, I went out for the basketball team and made the team.
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Wow.
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I don't even know what made me go out for the team, but I made the team.
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And what position did they give you?
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I was a forward.
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Forward, okay.
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Small, power?
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I don't know the differences.
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I mean, were you tall or were you were you shorter than you?
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I was average, average.
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So probably a small forward then.
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You're probably playing a three.
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Maybe.
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So uh the season is going on, and my uh stepmom is riding my dad's ass.
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You know, this this uh boy's inviting you to his games and you don't go to his games and you need to go to his games and da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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And this particular game, it might have been the next game after that tongue-lashing from my stepmommer, uh, I'm dribbling the ball down court, and I look up and see my dad waving at the top of the bleachers.
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And I'm like, oh man, my dad is here.
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It's cool, he came.
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And I didn't realize that I was about to stop and shoot.
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I was at the wrong end of the court.
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And the whole gym was screaming.
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I thought I was doing good.
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I was just dribbling down the anyway.
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That is the moment that I decided I'm gonna be.
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It was that moment's like, this is for the birds, man.
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I know what I can do.
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You didn't know what I can do.
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You didn't pick up on the fact that when anybody else around you at the other end of the court did not everybody else was around you.
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Nobody's guarding you, everybody's cheering for it.
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Other teams like, come on, look.
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Exactly.
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Isn't it correct me if I'm wrong, but if he shoots at who, they get they get the points?
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I don't know how that works in basketball.
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I've heard different things.
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I mean, you know it depends on what kind of league it is, it can, but yeah.
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Otherwise, they'll just they'll just call it as a so as a technical or something.
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Yeah, maybe so.
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Probably kick him out of the game.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, I didn't go yeah, I didn't even go back to practice after that.
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Dude, that's that's it.
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That was that was the end of your basketball correct.
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So that so did you realize when you're holding a microphone which end you're supposed to sing into, or is that kind of a good that was that was uh kind of second night job?
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I was a big ham.
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Okay, good.
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Okay, good okay.
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That was a big ham as a because I we I I just didn't want to see a trend happening here where it's like you don't know which which way to go, even with the wrong end of a fork.
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I think I got this part down, guys.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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He got the 11 part down.
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So you mentioned you so obviously you did you did uh you were doing drums, yes, doing piano, just did you dabble in any other uh instruments, or was those two your like main focus?
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Or my dad bought me what's called a chord organ.
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That was my first instrument.
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I think I was five or six years old.
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You would press a button with your left hand that would play a chord, a major or minor chord, and then you would play the melody in your left hand.
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And uh that was my first instrument.
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Then he bought me a set of drums, and I played drums up until maybe high school.
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I just got tired of setting them up and breaking them down and carry them to the car, carry them from the car.
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At church, there was always a piano already there, so all I had to do was show up.
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Yeah.
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I'm doing that.
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Yeah.
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I played my dad's tenor sacks in fourth grade for one year, but it was too big and too heavy.
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So uh piano and voice became and this was kind of in the high school era, right?
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High school, just high school that's when I started playing uh piano.
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Okay, but how much singing?
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Forever.
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Okay, but forever.
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At what at some point, maybe in the high school uh era of your life, um did did people start coming up to you and saying, like, dude, you got a gift.
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Because we all know you have a gift, but at some point I think, you know, just just to kind of go back a little bit on uh my early life of listening to music in the 60s, like Karen Carpenter used to just sit there and play the drums.
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I know she was a drummer.
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Yeah, she was a great drummer, but but it's like oh, and and she can sing.
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Yes, but at some point somebody just goes like no no no no more drums.
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Yes, did you have that moment?
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Like, like just freaking sing well and keyboards too, I know.
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Because we'll get into that with your first big break.
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Not so much.
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Uh no one made me choose, so I did it.
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And I think being able to sing and accompany yourself, that's a skill set that a lot of people don't have.
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Uh so it was always encouraged.
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Yeah, nobody made me choose, thankfully.
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Because I don't know what I would have chosen because I love them both.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't know what that would be.
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Okay, so let's um let's go ahead to Howard University.
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Yay!
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That's where I grew up, that's where I grew up.
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You know, not having to answer to anybody.
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You can stay out as late as you want, you can do whatever you want.
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My parents were on the other side of the country.
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Yeah, um, and I will say that, you know, I did some really dumb things as a as a kid.
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Sure.
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Uh thankfully my dumb stuff didn't cost me a lot, like it cost some of the other kids, um, which is a learning experience too.
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Um yeah, I'm grateful for my time in DC.
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However, at the end of my four years, I was out of there so fast.
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The snow in the winter and the absolute sticky in the spring and the summer, I needed to get back to California just for some normalcy.
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But you know, the people there, you know, some of my uh colleagues, my college mates, uh I'm very much in touch with, and I have two professors that are still living that I'm in touch with.
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Okay.
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Yeah, so I treasure my time in DC.
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Is so i is your time at Howard, is that where you kind of honed in on the musical aspect?
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Or was that where you really got in depth with it and started to figure out exactly what style of music you wanted to do?
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Or did you already have that idea like of what genre you wanted to be in early on anyway?
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I thought I had an idea.
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Okay, and you know, that at that young of an age, you know, you think you know everything, right?
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Sure.
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Not not only about you, about everything.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh and it's so interesting.
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I didn't get accepted uh to the music department uh as a result of my audition tape.
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I I did not know at that time Howard's uh the music department curriculum was uh very uh European based.
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Okay.
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Lots of classical music.
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The jazz uh program was very new.
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I think it started maybe 78, 79, and I got there in 81.
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So it was still very new, and that's where they could plug me in once I got there.
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Um but that's uh that's where I had to do music every day to catch up because I didn't I didn't take any formal lessons until I got to college.
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Right.
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So I was very much way behind the other kids.
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So I really had to buckle in.
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You're super green.
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And yeah, and you know, the ear was there, but I couldn't read any music, couldn't I read chord changes, but that's I had to do it every day just to compete.
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Yeah, you know, because you know, I was B R O C as I say, we were all broke, so I had to uh get scholarships and grants and a few loans to finish school, but I was out in four years and back in California because the snow is beautiful to look at, but I don't like being called Did you make any uh incredible relationships?
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There there were, correct me if I'm wrong, but there were quite a few very famous musicians, singers that went to Howard, right?
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Absolutely, like throw a couple names.
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Absolutely.
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Uh Angela Wimbush, uh Jesse Norman, uh Wayne Lindsey, uh uh Wallace Roney, um Roberta Flack.
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Roberta Flack and Donna Hatton.
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Oh my god.
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Um it's just uh uh Chadwick Bozeman, um not in the music department, but in the drama department.
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Just the the fine arts, college of fine arts at Howard is chock full of inspiration.
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And that was not lost on me while I was there.
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I really wanted to go there.
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One of my older cousins, Daryl, was in school uh there, and I wanted to go and get some of what uh Donnie and Roberta got.
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And I got to work with uh Donnie's uh vocal teacher and uh yeah, he remained a dear friend until he passed.
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It was just uh it was good.
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Yeah.
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It was good.
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Yeah, DC was very good to me.
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It was very good.
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So you came back to sunny, non-humid, non generally non-humid, snow snow California.
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Yes.
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And you were in your early 20s, I would assume.
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21 still.
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Yeah, 21 a couple weeks later.
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That's pretty yeah, 20.
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That's pretty young to graduate.
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Four years.
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My birthday is always in the summer, so gotcha.
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Yeah.
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I never got to have the school class party because my birthday was always right after we get out of school.
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But it's all good.
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I know from I know for me, and and I know for a lot of people, you get out of college and it's like now what?
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Yeah.
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Because you're like, okay, that's great.
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I just went to Howard University, I got a degree.
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Yeah, I I I can sing, I can now I can read music, I write music.
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Yeah.
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Now what do I do?
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Exactly.
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It was kind of terrifying, Bart.
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It was for me.
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You know, I figured out, okay, I know how to do school.
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Got it down.
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But now the uh dean of the College of Fine Arts at that time, Dr.
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Vader Butcher, she became a friend.
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And she found me up on the third floor in the music department and and kind of whispered, I have your degree in my office.
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Do you want to see it?
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And I was like, Yeah.
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So I followed her back down to her office, and she got this big box and rummaged through it a bit, and found my degree and opened it up and showed it to me.
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And when I went to grab it, she grabbed it back and said, Oh, it's mine until I give it to you on Saturday.
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This is still mine.
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I just wanted to wanted you to see it.
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But um, yeah, lots of great memories of our so you're you're back in California, back in Oakland.
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Uh I went back to San Jose.
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Okay, San Jose.
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Yeah.
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So what's your next move?
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You gotta make a you gotta make some money.
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Gotta make some money.
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I uh got a job as the minister of music at a church in San Jose.
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Okay, and that was great uh experience, just really running the department, and now this group of singers and players are gonna play and sing the music that I pick.
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And yeah, and it's for a church service, so it's gotta be inspirational.
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So that uh that time I uh was great.
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I worked there for 18 months and then I moved to LA.
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I started there in May or June of 85.
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Must have started in June of 85 because I graduated in 80 in May of 85.
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That's when I was born.
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Okay.
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June of 85.
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You're making me feel making me feel old, Justin.
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Uh, when's your birthday?
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June 7th.
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Ah, I'm June 18th.
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Hey.
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Gemini Power.
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Gemini.
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Uh we died twice.
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Oh, I'm gonna say that.
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That's pretty good.
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That's pretty good.
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Yeah, but I moved to LA in October of 86.
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And that's that's where there are bupportunities for musician singers, as opposed to, you know, and and even though the bay has been a hotbed of music forever, sure.
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All genres of music from Slying the Family Stone to the Grateful Dead to Confunct.
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The hate Ashbury area up there, all of that.
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Yeah, just great music.
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Um, but there were not the quality of opportunities, nor the quantity of opportunities in the bay, because I did not want to move to LA.
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Yeah.
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I was just, I'd rather be at home, but had another uh more than a few friends who became my colleagues as well down here saying, if you want to do this, you gotta you gotta be down here.
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Yeah.
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So that you can get the last minute call.
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Nobody's gonna fly you from the bay to be at a session in two hours.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You know, they're gonna call somebody that lives here.
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So um, so I moved.
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And I did not starve.
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I was living with family, but I was uh it took a while for things to start moving.
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Right.
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Yeah, and I ended up moving back to the bay after three years four, maybe three years, and then once I got my first big gig, it kind of re after the That tour was over, it kind of required me to move to LA and that made it easier because people knew me from touring, so I could work.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't kind of a complete unknown.
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And what was that gig that my first big gig was Rod Stewart?
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Okay, there it is.
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Okay.
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That's where we were.
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There it is.
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That's what we were waiting for.
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There's a payoff.
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That was the podcast is over.
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Okay.
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I mean, for the average person, you're you're you're working with Rod Stewart.
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Yeah.
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That's that's that's as good as it gets.
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But it gets way better.
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And I get that.
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It just gets different.
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It just keeps on getting gooder and gooder.
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That's what I like to say because uh that tour changed my life.
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That relationship changed my life.
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I had never seen that side of touring like that, you know, on a private plane.
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Only the Rich Carlton, only the four seasons, only the you know how how was Rod personally?
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Wonderful.
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Wonderful.
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Because you always hear stories about like, you know, celebrities and even like musicians, and they're like, you know, snobs or all this stuff.
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But I'm like, I don't ever remember ever hearing anything negative about Rod Stewart growing up, as far as like him being like he likes to hang out, he's absolutely trashy to people.
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Yeah, that's not how he gets down.
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I think I as I recall too, that was uh when did Maggie Mae come out?
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I think 71.
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Okay, so he was he was already he was what he was still in his prime, but he was already just huge.
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I started in '93.
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He was huge.
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Yeah.
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We were playing stadiums.
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That was like it was crazy.
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So now we're up to 1993.
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So that's when you first got the gig.
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Yes.
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Okay, now this the whole point of this this deep diving thing is you don't just walk up to Rod Stewart and say, hey man, I'm pretty good, man.
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Can you hire me?
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Yeah.
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How in the hell did you get that gig?
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Great story.
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Okay.
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Of course it is.
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So it is literally my 30th birthday, June 18, 1993.
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And I'm throwing myself a party.
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And people have started arriving uh for the party, you know, family and friends and colleagues, and we're having a great time.
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And the phone rings, and whoever answered the phone came and said, There's someone named Fred on the phone for you.
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So you know you know.
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Yeah, I know Fred, yeah.
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Great friend.
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One of my dearest friends, Fred.
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So he's calling uh to say happy birthday.
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He said, and I'm calling to see uh if you want to go on the road with Rod Stewart for a year.
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He says, uh, I did a year with Rod and two of our other friends, uh Dorian Hawley and Daryl Fennessey, sang with Rod, and they also sang with Michael Jackson, and it happened for a couple of tours that when Michael was finished, Rod would start, and vice versa.
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:46.160
Well, this time in '93, both tours were leaving at the same time, so they had to choose.
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And they chose Michael, which led uh left Fred to put together a section for Rod.
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So he called uh in the middle of my birthday party and said, Rod, we don't have to audition.
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Rod told me to get whoever I want.
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We do have to sing for the musical director.
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So that year my birthday was on a Friday.
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He said, Can you be in LA Monday?
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Um just spend a night for a couple days and we'll go meet the musical director and sing for him, and that'll be it.
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I said, There's probably nearly a hundred people here, and for that gig, I could be in LA tonight.
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Yeah.
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I would leave right now.
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And uh he assured me I didn't have to do that, and I flew down Monday and met everybody, and we sang a little bit, and I was on that gig for almost eight years.
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And I thought I would retire from that gig because we were very close.
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You know, Rob would Rod was married to Rachel Hunter at the time, and they would invite me and my grandmother up to the house for dinner, cocktails, and just chill and hang and laugh and and do what we do.
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So yeah, they were wonderful to me.
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It was a great, it was a great time to be alive.
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:55.519
And also, correct me if I'm wrong, you got you were playing keyboards for for Rod also at the time.
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I didn't know.
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Did you get that right off the bat or it was just singing?
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No, it was just singing to start because he had the great uh Ian McLagan was playing Keys, who was in a band with Rod called The Small Faces.
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.519
Oh yeah, that was the early Rod Stewart, the Small Faces, yeah.
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So Ian was part of that band, and and we came into Rod's band at the same time.
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:16.480
Okay.
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And uh so I think we did, you know, maybe two or three tours together, I can't remember.
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And then uh Ian decided to produce pursue some other things, including writing a fabulous autobiography, uh, which left the organ chair open, and I was not even seeking it.
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The uh we started rehearsals for the next tour, and the musical director said, Oh, I told Rod you play organ and you play well, so he's hired you to play organ now.
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I was like, uh Okay.
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What else?
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What else?
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Yeah, so I did that for a tour or two.
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Yeah, yeah, and it was yeah, it was it was it was fun.
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:03.440
I do have to say though, I'd much rather be unencumbered and uh able to move around and shake my booty a little bit.
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.680
I don't like having to sit in one spot and just be still.
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But if the uh paycheck is right, I will do exactly that.
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:12.720
I'm flexible that way.
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:19.200
So my question is is obviously we all know Rod had fantastic hair.
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Absolutely.
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.799
That do was like iconic, right?
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:24.000
Still is, yeah.
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:32.720
Did did you have a wig of sorts that you would just put on every once in a while just to look like Rod just for a little bit?
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.799
Uh I feel like a lot of people had it and they don't want to admit it.
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.240
A lot of people had it.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of people would come to the shows and they're Rob.
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.920
Yes, men and women.
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.000
And some of them looked fabulous and you know, looked really great.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.079
Some of them looked like him, but yeah, that was the thing, but not so much for me.
00:27:53.119 --> 00:28:01.359
But I think at that time I did a couple tours being uh platinum blonde, which I'm thinking about revisiting because that was fun as well.
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:02.160
That's great.
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:12.319
Okay, and we're not doing our job if we don't ask for at least one crazy Rod Stewart on tour thing that's not gonna get any of us sued.
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:12.880
Oh, yeah.
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:24.559
That's just a fun thing that people would just go, holy cow, because we all know, you know, back in those more so back in the 70s and 80s, but even back in the 90s, or you know, there was a lot of crazy stuff going on.
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.160
Oh, yeah, life on tour, man.
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.599
Like there's there's some stuff.
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:28.880
There's some stuff.
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:34.319
Um, but I think I came in on the tail end of the sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.720
It was still happening, but it was kind of dying out.
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:44.000
Uh, and now, you know, I tell people, you know, invite uh friends to come to a show.
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:44.960
I want to come backstage.
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:53.279
I'm like, well, that's another issue, and I can work on that, but I'm telling you, you'd probably be bored as hell because now everybody's old.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:53.599
Yeah.
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:59.119
You know, instead of wanting to go and shut down the bar, people want to go back to their hotel room and read their book.
00:28:59.279 --> 00:28:59.519
Yeah.
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.240
Or talk to their wives or talk to their kids.
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.960
It's it's a lot more sedate.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:05.359
Yeah.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.000
Now, which I think is we want to go back and party with Rod.
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.119
No, he's drawing right now.
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:09.839
Yes.
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Don't leave him alone.
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.559
He's a big uh train uh enthusiast.
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:15.839
So he trained.
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.720
Yeah, he does the model train thing big for him.
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:20.000
Okay, that's interesting.
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:25.920
Yeah, at that time he had a uh gigantic room uh in his home here in the LA area.
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:40.000
Uh with the, you know, like you see in the movies, with this whole city that he had hand painted all the buildings and painted the trains and painted the trees, and and he that was something that would bring him joy going and spend some time with his trains.
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.279
Uh but you're Rod Stewart in his trains.
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.519
Yeah.
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:44.720
Who would have thought?
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:52.400
Okay, well, I guess we're not gonna get the the big Oh, I was gonna say because you know, our listeners are sitting on the edge of their chairs right now.
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.960
We want to hear one crazy Rod Stewart story.
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.240
I don't know how crazy it is, but this is what came to mind initially.
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.200
He's a prankster.
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:00.079
Oh, there you go.
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.759
Perfect on the rotor.
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.759
Pranksters, and some of them are sedate and some of them are way over the line.
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:18.400
But anyway, um, we would be uh performing a show and during uh an instrumental solo or something that's long, we do something that's called a quick change, right?
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:23.279
Rob would go change his shirt and jacket, and we would go change our shirt and jacket.
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:30.799
And this particular night he was saying something along the lines of in soundcheck, you know, people are getting back from the quick change late.
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:35.200
You need to change your change what you need to change and get back on stage so we can finish the show.
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.559
So we're like, okay, it's cool, we'll be aware of that.
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.000
So during the time that the singers had to do a quick change, Rod went and did his quick change first.
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:51.680
And we come down, tear out of our jackets and shirts, put on the new shirt, and put get ready to put on the new jacket.
00:30:51.759 --> 00:31:04.960
We get one hand in, and he had tied a knot in the sleeve of all of the singers' jackets, so we couldn't we couldn't get our jackets on, and at first it was a panic until we figured out, oh, he was down here first.
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:12.240
And sure enough, when we all did get our sleeves untied and get on the stage, he had this big grin on his face, like, got you again.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.880
And I'm sure we got him back, but I just can't remember how.
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:15.920
No, that's a good one, man.
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:22.559
What would have been great is if you just actually went out there with the tied and we're like, yeah, this is what you wanted, and this is what you get.
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:24.000
And that would have been game.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:25.440
And he would have laughed till he couldn't.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.240
Because that's his show.
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:26.559
Yes.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.200
That you have now taken his prank onto stage with.
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.400
That would have been good.
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.960
That would have been good because he was always up for fun.
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:33.920
He's always up for fun.
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:35.519
Yeah, still.
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:45.200
So we're gonna we're we're not quite at the end yet, but we're but what we want to do is um kind of um we're gonna segue into the next part of your musical career.
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.480
So let's just let's just kind of wind it up then.
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.599
At some point, now when you finished uh with Rod, that was it.
00:31:53.759 --> 00:32:00.240
You never came back with Rod, it was kind of that was it type thing, or uh you went on to bigger and better things.
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.279
Uh I can't remember.
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.440
You've told you know, I just for uh everybody out there listening, I I've known Lamont now for I think quote well, 20 years.
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:08.720
Probably close to 20 years.
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:10.400
Maybe about 31 minutes.
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:11.279
Yeah, you've about 31 minutes.
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:12.799
About 31 minutes I've known Lamont.
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:13.039
Yeah.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:20.880
But no, I but I've heard some of these stories, but I I'm never really clear whether you I know that relationship ended amicably, is did I say that word right?
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:26.880
And uh I just think you went on to to things that you were amazing, which we'll get into in the next segment.
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.480
But that was kind of at some point.
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.920
How long were you with Rod then?
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:30.880
Almost eight years.
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:31.599
That's a long time.
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.079
That's a long time.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:32.640
That's a long time.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:33.519
It's almost a decade.
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:33.839
Yeah.
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.759
Did you did you go in the studio and record with him too?
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.400
Oh yeah.
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.359
So you're eligible for getting platinum or gold records and stuff for that?
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.599
Because I know you have a you have so we'll talk about that too.
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.279
I think I have two plaques for Rod.
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Unplugged, which I did to tour, and then the next record was called Spanner in the Works, and I got a plaque for that.
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.759
And I think that's it for Rod.
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.359
Did you one more thing about uh doing what you do?
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:11.119
Um, you know, you're you know, you're you're singing these songs and you're singing them the way that they want them to be sung, but sometimes do you just sit there and say, hey, let me just try this.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.839
What do you think?
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:12.640
Especially in the street.
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:13.359
Does that ever happen?
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:14.880
Especially in a studio in a studio.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:15.359
Yeah.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:30.880
Sometimes live, because the live performance, some artists like the live performance to be exactly like their record, and some artists like it to have a little extra flavor, something a little different, but still something that you're not hearing every day on the album.
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:31.440
Exactly.
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:33.920
Otherwise, they say, you know, you can stay home and listen to the record.
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:34.240
Yeah.
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:49.039
You know, so when you come to a show, they've some artists want to do a little, have a little difference, but some artists want it exactly like the record, and that's it, and that's all like this note could be run on a little bit longer or sometimes or sometimes not.
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:55.039
Yeah, you know, and it's usually cool unless they have to keep asking you, you know, can we just have it like the record?
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.960
I just what you sang was beautiful, but I really want yeah the record.
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:09.440
I to be honest with you, as a as a I've gone to a lot of concerts in my life, and when I see a band like Rod Stewart, I've seen Ron Stewart, and it's like you kind of want to hear the song the way you remember the song.
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.320
Yes, you don't want to hear all kinds of weird stuff going on.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.000
Yeah, but it's very true.
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.119
But a little spice is it's uh it depends on the artist.
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.239
Because most of the you you really do want it to be familiar.
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.840
You don't want to also kind of depends on the show, too, really.
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:26.960
Or even just the location, too.
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:32.239
Like maybe you want to do something a little bit more magical and special if you're playing Madison Square Garden.
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:32.639
Yes.
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.519
Maybe you want to do something a little bit special if you're playing like we're we've got Coachella going on.
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:45.599
Like you want something a little bit special for those, but then keep it keep it the same throughout for you know the diehard longtime listeners.
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.599
Yeah, you know, you got the your your last 30 minutes are nothing but the big hits.
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:52.000
Yeah.
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.960
The last that just drive them crazy and send them home.
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:55.519
Yeah.
00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.079
Speaking of that, what was always the the you you guys would always do an encore?
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:01.280
Oh yeah, with Ryan.
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:02.960
What would always be the last song?
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.199
Oh, that didn't stay the same as it would bounce around the same.
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:07.519
Yeah.
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:08.000
Yeah.
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.599
Because you you don't want to do like the big hit right off the bat.
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.280
You want to save it till the end, right?
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.079
Yeah.
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:20.480
And you know, if you're an artist like that, and some of the others I've been fortunate to work with, they have so many to choose from.
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:21.039
Yeah.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:21.519
You know.
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.199
What what was your guy?
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:30.079
So I know a lot of a lot of artists and mainly bands though, they'll have what's called their road song.
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:30.559
Uh-huh.
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.840
Did you guys have a road song that like had to be played no matter what?
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.320
That wasn't a well-known song.
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:45.519
It wasn't a mainstream top billboard 100 hit, but it was one that was like, we really love the song, we really enjoy playing it.
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:51.119
And even though maybe not everybody's gonna know the words, this is our road song, and we're gonna play it at every show no matter what.
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:56.000
I think there were a lot of songs that had to be played since we're still talking about Rod.
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.280
There were, you know, he could not do a show without singing Tonight's Tonight.
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.320
He could not do a show without singing Do You Think I'm Sexy.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.119
Or Maggie May.
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.079
Or Maggie May.
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.400
It just is not gonna happen.
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.519
It's just not gonna happen.
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:08.239
Forever Young.
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.480
It's gotta be But there were songs that were big in the UK that were not as big here.
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:21.760
Songs like uh I Am Sailing, songs like The Killing of Georgie, uh, songs like Young Turks.
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.039
Um that was my first exposure of traveling around the planet.
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:34.079
And then these artists want to do the songs in Asia that were big in Asia, but they may not be big in South America.
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.480
There's another set of big songs, right?
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:43.119
But uh in the midst of those, the the core songs, um, like the ones we were talking about, yeah, yeah.
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.360
Uh Phil Collins cannot do a show and not sing in the air tonight.
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:48.400
It's just never gonna happen.
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.199
It'd be a crime.
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.239
It would be a crime.
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.679
Do you think at some point in this podcast we're gonna talk maybe about Mr.
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.719
Phil Collins a little bit?
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:55.599
Yes, because he's just a good thing.
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.119
Yes, because he just got a big, beautiful Prezi.
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.320
Well, you're gonna get your wish then, because we're gonna talk about them on our next segment here coming up after the break.
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00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.519
It's such a prestigious sounding name, too.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:19.519
I was just a cool ass name, Lamont Van Hoek, starring in his latest role.
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.119
Like it just sounds cool.
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.079
I want to keep it.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.920
It's it's like it's like uh it's like uh and that's your real name.
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:27.119
That is my real name.
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:28.480
People call you that.
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.119
And I have been asked, would I consider changing my name?
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.239
No, no, my beach.
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:33.440
Yeah.
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:34.800
Your name is a lot.
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.679
I was like, it's a mouthful, yes, but it's my name.
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:38.800
And I'm keeping it.
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.199
And now with the sophisticated sounds, the Le Mons van.
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.559
Yeah, everybody learn how to say it as soon as I have a hit record.
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:47.760
It'll be just fine.
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.119
It's a mouthful now.
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.000
Once you have the first hit record, everybody will learn your name.
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:52.800
I love it.
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:53.280
Yeah.
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:54.239
I love it.
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:02.320
Alright, so we were uh we were talking about your time with Rod, uh the Rod man, Mr.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.440
Rod Stewart.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:04.320
Great days.
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.239
Great days, great times, great tours, yeah, uh, great years.
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:16.159
He was not the only one uh that you had the privilege of performing with.
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:37.119
Uh anybody who can work a phone or a laptop or any type of internet uh can look up your name and see the plethora of top female and male performers uh in the past got I would you say like 50, 60, 70 years?
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.679
Like there's a lot of there's a lot of names that are on this list that you have performed with.
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.320
Oh yeah.
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:50.320
Uh why don't you go ahead and enlighten our listeners uh with your with your time after Rod?
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.960
It's been a good ride.
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.159
I call myself a little black boy from Oakland.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.239
It's been a good ride.
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:04.239
Uh as far as touring, when the Rod days were over, I got to gig with Dinah Ross.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.320
I did that legend.
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:08.960
And she was special to me.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.199
I knew some of Rod's big songs.
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:19.119
I knew Sexy, and I knew Tonight's the Night, and I knew a couple of others, but a lot of his music for the tour, I had to learn.
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:26.239
I had to learn very little Dinah Ross music because it was big in my house, and I knew those songs.
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:47.920
Um and I toured with her off and on for like 12 years because around the time I got her gig, like 2000, I think I might have started with Diana in 2000, and I started with Phil Collins in 2001.
00:40:48.480 --> 00:41:03.519
And and there was some time where he would be working and she would not, or he would not be working and she would, so I could go back and forth uh between both gigs, but those two kind of happened around the same time.
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:12.159
Let me stop for a second again, because I just like I was curious how you got the Rod Stewart gig, you know, and it was your good friend that uh set that up.
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:12.559
Yeah.
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.039
So like your next big gig is Diana Ross.
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.960
So once again, you don't just call up Diana Ross and go, hey, everyone sing for you.
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.679
How did that how did that one fall into your lap?
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.960
Um part of it was Fred again.
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:25.920
Fred again.
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:30.320
I have followed his lead for so long in my life.
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.880
Like, I didn't realize that you could buy a house being a backing singer.
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.039
And I watched Fred buy a house.
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.400
And I was like, oh my god, I could have a house.
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.599
Uh he drove a Honda, so I bought a Honda.
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.239
Um just stuff like that.
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.719
And we've been on the not the same color.
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.920
No, not the same color, but and years later.
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.679
But I'm I watched this cat because he's just a successful human being.
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.159
He's I met him, I met him several times.
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:00.639
Yeah.
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:01.679
Cool, cool.
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.639
Just a great guy.
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.840
Talented singer.
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:04.239
Yeah.
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:05.760
Songwriter, all of it.
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:06.159
Yep.
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:06.800
All of it.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:21.440
But I'm trying, I'm struggling to remember something with getting me in the room with Diana, but there was also another singer out of New York by the name of Fonzie Thornton, who was big in Luther Vandross's camp.
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.480
They were dear friends, that called me about Diana as well.
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.639
So I don't know who called me first, but I ended up being on the gig for a while off and on.
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.559
And uh yeah, yeah, she was just huge in my house.
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.199
So she's, you know, royalty as far as I'm concerned.
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:43.119
And it was just such a pleasure, such a pleasure for uh someone to uh hire you for their tour.
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:50.159
I liken that to my brother being picked, you know, for the street uh football game or the street softball game or something.
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.719
I feel like when somebody calls me to do their tour, I'm I'm being picked for the team.
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:56.239
And it's a good feeling.
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:58.320
You were the number one overall draft pick.
00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:59.039
How about that?
00:42:59.119 --> 00:42:59.519
Yeah.
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.679
Or you know, not even, man.
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.559
I've been a part of some doozy bands.
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.599
And I can't say one is my favorite uh over the over another.
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:19.920
I I will say I've had the pleasure of being on stage with some great players and singers that require you to bring your A game.
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.519
Yeah, or you'll just be left behind.
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:21.840
Yeah.
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.400
But you don't step on the stage phoning it in because it's just not that kind of gig.
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.280
Oh, for sure.
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.880
Uh so you know, yeah, that's that's how I came in.
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:39.280
If you're gonna be on this stage, you better be able to play your instrument or sing, uh, or you're gonna look, you know, like a numbskull because everybody else up here is laying it down.
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:47.440
Um Dana Ross, and then quickly to uh Phil Collins.
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:48.880
And same thing, you know.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.599
Now you've got I I would call it street cred, like no, this is this guy knows what he's doing.
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.079
I hope so after 40 plus years.
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:56.320
Yeah.
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.599
But even back in those days, you know, you're you're singing with Rod St.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.880
Stewart playing his keyboards for seven years.
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.599
And it's not like, oh, is this guy can this guy handle the the gig, you know?
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.119
Oh my god, of course he can.
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:09.840
Yeah.
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.719
You get that in in that kind of experience, then you start getting those other kind of calls.
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.039
Uh you know.
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:18.880
First time I worked with Sting.
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:22.320
It's like Sting, you work with Sting?
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:22.880
I didn't know.
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:25.840
Really, really nice.
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:32.159
But I'm saying the the calls that you get when people of that stature see you working with their friends.
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:34.480
You know, yeah, can I get his number from you?
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.880
Because I need a so-and-so and so and so.
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:44.559
So uh it's uh you know, until things get rolling, it's it's you're starving.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:52.000
But once things do get rolling, it's it's like you know, you you got you're getting too many calls, you gotta start farming out work because you know only one fella.
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.480
So you had a you had a background scene for Steam?
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:55.119
Yeah.
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.079
And like and like some of the some of the lyrics, like you understood?
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:01.760
Because I and I asked this.
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.800
I asked this because like you know the song Brand New Day?
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:17.840
Yeah, you could you could play that song right now in front of me, and I couldn't tell you the words other than Brand New Day.
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:19.840
You only know those three words.
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:20.320
Yes.
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.960
And I know Stevie played the played the harmonica on that stuff, but it's so funky.
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:26.400
It's such a great song.
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.320
But I mean he's a great, he's a great like starwriter, he's a great performer.
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.800
Yes, but it's like sting just anunciation, just a little bit.
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.840
Everyone, I want to sing along with you, but I can't, and this is all that's all I can get out.
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:40.880
That's so yeah.
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:42.800
By the way, Justin, we didn't know you could sing, man.
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:44.159
Only sting.
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.199
Only sting gibberish.
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.840
Only sting gibberish is my only vocal talent.
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.679
So I did uh a sting gig.
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.480
I did the I worked with him the first time he did a Disney movie called The Emperor's New Group.
00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:58.800
Yep.
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:03.519
After Phil did the Tarzan or the Brother Bear, I think.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:15.599
Um and we did some TV and we did the uh we did the tonight show and we did a couple of uh live concert things, but I did those promos with the Perry sisters.
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.000
We were all a part of the choir for that Sting.
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.760
Uh we love the Perry Sisters, and I know they're gonna be listening to this podcast.
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:22.559
We love you.
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:23.280
Yes, we do.
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:24.159
Girls, yes.
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:26.639
That's how we met you, by the way.
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:27.199
Exactly.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:28.480
Exactly, Bart.
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.360
Uh yeah, but Sting is the Sting is the bomb.
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.760
Sting is I've just been so fortunate.
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:41.440
Uh, you know, there are very few, and I'm not gonna call any names, but out of 40 years, there may be two people that I would choose not to work with again.
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:42.000
Oh boy.
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.719
We're not gonna ask.
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:43.760
It's a small list.
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:44.480
It's a small list.
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:45.360
It's a small list.
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.840
It's been good because it's I've been pretty busy over the last few decades.
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.960
And for the most part, it's been absolutely wonderful.
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.440
Ever since I met you, you're you're always working.
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:56.159
Thank the Lord.
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:57.599
You know, every once in a while.
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:03.440
I remember one time you went for your birthday to Maui, and I think you were off the chart there for a couple weeks or so.
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.280
But but that was after doing a Diana Ross concert, I believe, in Maui.
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:07.599
Yeah.
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.840
And then you just finally did a little decompression.
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:15.920
The timing just worked out where I could stay for a week or so, and and you know, got a great rate on the hotel through the promoter.
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.119
And you know, I I um travel a lot for work.
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:21.440
Yeah.
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.559
So when I get to go on a bona fide vacation, I'm very easy to locate.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:33.039
Yeah, I don't need to go sightseeing, I need to be on the beach, under the umbrella, on the lounge, drinking and smoking my cigar.
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:34.719
I'm gonna be right here all day.
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:41.360
I don't need to go into town and I get to do that as part of my job when I'm in Phoenix or Tokyo.
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:41.599
Right.
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:46.800
I can go out shopping and sightseeing them, but when I'm on my time, I'm very easy to locate.
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.440
I call my when I go to Hawaii doing nothing.
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:50.239
Exactly.
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:51.599
And a whole bunch of nothing.
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.320
Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.800
That's why that's that's me on vacation.
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.360
I want to be in one spot all day.
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:00.559
All day.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.360
Yeah, man.
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:13.119
So of all so you've you've had this wide range of of artists, and they all have a very different style of you know, genre of music.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.079
You know, you've got your Diana Ross's and Stings and Rod Stewart's and everything.
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:27.599
It just just the I mean there's so many more on the list um uh of performers that you've had the had the opportunity to work with.
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:38.880
Which which musical style would you say and it could be like earlier on, it could be it could be now, but which one resonates with you the most?
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.079
Like which one which one is like this this one's in my heart.
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:48.880
Like this is this is this is the one that exudes who I am.
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.320
I couldn't pick Justin.
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.440
You know, once you once you get in the mix of an artist, that becomes your focus.
00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:57.920
Sure.
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:02.480
And that becomes it becomes your obligation to do, you know, do your best on the gig.
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.559
Um and that's what you're focused on for that time.
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:17.920
Um I'd learn I've learned so much from the players and singers in every organization, from the crew guys and girls, just how to how to be on the road.
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:29.679
Um uh Rod's former uh production manager, who is still a dear friend of mine, he taught me how to uh funk out my bunk on the bus with some really high-end linen.
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.079
Okay.
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.320
So it feels like your bed at home, because we're gonna be on the road for six months.
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:34.639
Yeah.
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.519
So your bed is on this bus and it needs to feel like your bed at home.
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.159
So you can get in the bed after show and go to sleep.
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:43.599
Just things like that.
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.280
And how to, you know, you're walking around in Tokyo.
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.440
I'm a black man, I stand out.
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.519
So you gotta keep your game face on when it's uh appropriate.
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.920
You know, you don't want to look like you're a fish out of water, but you obviously are.
00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:58.400
Yeah.
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.800
Uh, but you know, you learn things like that uh from the crew guys and girls.
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.360
Just I've been so fortunate I can't say one or the other.
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.840
Because during the at the time I'm working with them, this is my world right now.
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:17.119
And uh yeah, you just want to have fun and uh go around the world, man.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:27.280
And it's cool you brought up the you know the crews of these of these of these shows and tours because I I I I I have a friend who who used to do that stuff.
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:42.480
And and you would have this whole conversation about like, yeah, you know, the performers, they go up there, they do their thing, they're up there for, you know, two hours and then they're and then they're gone, and then it's it's like nothing.
00:50:42.639 --> 00:51:01.280
But it's it's the crews that put these shows up, putting them up, absolutely, tearing them down, do it again tomorrow, do it again the next day, yes, and and he's like, I'm not saying that I'm taking anything away from you know the performer that I work with because they're still doing their thing, they're still up there sweating underneath all the lights and everything.
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.880
Yeah, but the crew without them that show does not happen.
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:05.599
That's the truth.
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:13.679
Like it is it's and a crew is uh road crews, studio crews, movie crews are widely underappreciated.
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.199
The production doesn't happen without them.
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:15.920
Exactly.
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:16.800
It does not happen.
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.719
Yeah, and and it's a sorry production with the sorry crew.
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.440
Yeah, it's a sorry production with a sorry band.
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.360
Yeah, and and those things happen.
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:25.840
Yeah.
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.599
Uh no, but I love my I I ride the bus with the crew.
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.599
I go out, get off of the band bus and let's go.
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:32.960
I'm gonna hang with the crew and we'll stay up.
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:34.079
Let me know.
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.280
Yeah, the crew is like the coolest people you could ever meet.
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:38.000
Exactly.
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:38.639
Exactly.
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.239
Yeah, and the crew guys and girls still party.
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:48.159
The band guys and girls are kind of sedate these days for the most part, but you know, in the circles that I run.
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.360
Yeah, but the crew girls are.
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.039
Most people are reticent nowadays to just kind of like cut loose.
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:53.760
Yeah.
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.559
And we need to bring them to the speakeasy, and then maybe they'll like just be a little bit more content.
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.119
But then we'd have to tell them where it is, and we don't want to do that.
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.360
Do we want to no, we'll just blindfolds.
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:04.400
No, we'll just blindfold them.
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.400
Oh, yeah, that you blindfold them, blindfold them out.
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:06.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:07.840
We had to blindfold them out.
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:16.320
So so um, so a lot of a lot of uh traveling with Diana Ross, I know, and you you went back and forth a couple times with her.
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:16.800
Yeah.
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:18.320
And then same thing with Phil.
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.920
You had you had a big tour with Phil, you took a big break, and then you went on and did another one.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:22.159
Yeah.
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.079
Maybe two or three, or I can't remember.
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.400
I think we did four tours with Phil.
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.119
Four from 2001 to 2019.
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:30.159
Yeah, four with Phil.
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:31.920
I think I did, yeah.
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.559
Yeah, I was building around the world.
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:40.639
I gotta call him because he just, Uncle Phil, if you're listening, congratulations on being inducted into the rock and roll.
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.920
Oh, yeah, that's yeah, you told me that's that it's about time.
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:45.280
It's about time.
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.280
I'm sorry, I'm just gonna use the word stupid.
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.679
There's some people that should be in that rock and roll hall thing.
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.760
And Phil Collins is 100% one of them.
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.079
Well, Phil, if you are listening and you want us to deep dive into your life, well, we have a spot open.
00:52:58.400 --> 00:52:59.199
He just said he might call him.
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.239
Maybe we can get him to call him a little bit.
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:01.519
You want to just be in the room when he calls him?
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:02.880
Yeah, you know, I could do a.
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:04.239
Can you put him on speaker for us?
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.760
Just we have a quick question for him.
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.800
You know, I think I could do a half-assed British accent imitation of Phil and pretend like No, I'm not gonna try it right now.
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.639
I'll have to practice that one.
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.119
No, you don't get to practice every voice.
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.679
But I am so happy for him.
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.599
He's he's he's in with Genesis in the circle.
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.800
Finally, yes, but for him as a solo artist, it's it just happened a couple days ago.
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.559
And and actually, I'd I'd have to look this up.
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:38.719
Maybe I don't know if you know this or not, Lamont, but also Peter Gabriel, is he in the rock and roll hall famous Peter Gabriel?
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:39.519
That's a good question.
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.360
I don't think Gabriel is.
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:42.559
I don't think Gabriel is.
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:42.960
Really?
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:43.920
No, I don't think so.
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:44.880
That's crazy, too.
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:46.480
I can get our fact checkers to find out.
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:46.719
Yeah.
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.639
Well, hey Buzz, what are you doing over there, buddy?
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:49.519
He's opening.
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.760
Oh, he's making he's making your next uh drink for you.
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:52.639
Bring it up.
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.079
I ain't scared of you, Buzz.
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:55.280
That's all he focuses on.
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:56.880
Buzz just makes his drinks, man.
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.880
He's just moving around and he's gonna look it up right now.
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.400
But I I, you know, yeah, God bless Phil Phil Collins.
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.639
I uh, you know, I've seen him um gosh, did I only see him that one time with you?
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:17.360
I think I want to see him, but no, Phil Collins, and the story too that blows my mind is when Genesis broke up, and that could have just been the end of Phil Collins.
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.960
That could have been the end of it right there.
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:24.079
Because Peter Gabriel, and God bless him, you know, a guy's incredibly talented, he just walks away from Genesis.
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:24.320
Yeah.
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.800
So here's all these guys going like, did you find it?
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:27.440
I found it.
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:33.760
Uh Peter Gabriel was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame uh in 2014 as a solo artist.
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.079
Right.
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:34.320
Okay.
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.159
But but okay, that just proves my point.
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:40.480
It's like, okay, they were both great in Genesis.
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.719
They got in the rock and roll hall famous Genesis.
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:48.159
And then Peter Gabriel gets it, and then you know, a decade plus later, oh hey, but what about Phil Collins?
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:48.639
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:53.360
Okay, so 2014 was still not a good enough year.
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.960
That should have been done way before.
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:55.760
Way earlier.
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:57.119
Correct, correct, correct, correct.
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:57.679
I agree.
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:06.800
But um, yeah, but but um just just real finishing up real quick, and and and you know the story too because you've worked with Phil Collins.
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.639
The guy's got a voice, it's unbelievable.
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:09.039
Indeed.
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:19.119
And so they were auditioning people to fill in for Peter Gabriel, and um, and I think I got the story half-ass right, but it's like he goes like raises his hand like, what, Phil?
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:20.880
Um, how about me?
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:22.079
Yeah, right.
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.480
I heard something about him saying, I'll take a crack at it.
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:26.079
I'll take a crack at it.
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:30.960
It's like yeah, he made Genesis huger.
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:33.679
And then is that a word?
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.840
And then he just said it.
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:41.519
And then and then Phil Collins just does his own thing, and of course he, God, how many hits did Phil Collins have?
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:55.199
And to his credit, is that's one of the few times uh that I'm aware of, and you guys think usually when an artist goes solo, they leave the band that brought them, they jump off the horse that bought them.
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.119
Phil and Genesis, they didn't do that.
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.199
A bunch of those guys did solo projects, but they never quit the band.
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.519
And I thought that was just wise.
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:05.280
Yeah, it's just wise.
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:13.760
And another uh tidbit uh I've heard about Genesis is they all equally on all of the songs.
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:14.239
That's nice.
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:22.960
Even if you bring in a song for the Genesis record, if it's gonna be on this record, we all split it evenly, so there's no big eyes and little us.
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.119
There's just right, right.
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.079
And I think that's how they got that longevity, man.
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:28.639
Yeah, man.
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:29.679
You know, that's how you do it.
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.079
Yeah, these guys have been together for 50, 50 years.
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:32.559
Yeah.
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.880
You know, that that's no small thing.
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.039
Whitney Whitney didn't get 50 years.
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.599
Uh Prince might have got I don't know if Prince got 50 years.
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.639
50 years is a long time to be in this game.
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.280
Yeah.
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:45.519
Yeah.
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:46.000
Yeah.
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:52.320
People like Diana Ross, people like Phil Collins, they are uh due some respect for that.
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.920
Um so so throw in some other, give us some other names of of people that you've performed with.
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.400
This is your moment to name drop, man, and everybody goes out.
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.039
Oh, let me let me let me throw one out there real quick.
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:03.920
Throw it in.
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.199
So so um, you know, he calls uh Mr.
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:08.000
Van Hook.
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:10.000
That's his real name.
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:10.320
Mr.
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:11.119
Van Hooker.
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.599
He calls me up one day, and it's like four o'clock in the afternoon.
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.360
He goes, hey, what are you and Sandra doing tonight?
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.840
I go, um, I don't know.
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:18.239
Why?
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.119
He goes, Huh, you want to go down and see a concert at the Hollywood Bowl?
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.280
I'm like, um, what?
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:24.239
What is it?
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:31.039
And he goes, Well, I'm not gonna tell you, but I'm gonna be there, and if you want to go, I'll have two tickets waiting for you at Will Call.
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.719
And of course, okay.
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.639
Go down there, opening act, Stevie Wonder, Mr.
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:37.760
Banhook.
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:40.719
Sorry, I had to cough there.
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.119
We don't we don't have a cough button, we gotta have a cough button.
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:44.480
Anyway, yeah, no, I'll insist.
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.440
And I I'm just sitting there, I'm just sitting there looking at my buddy.
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.880
I'm like, and people are just going like, this is frickin' unbelievable.
00:57:53.599 --> 00:58:01.440
And the cool part about it was it was like a ch it was um it was like some sort of thing, I forget what it was, a cherry fundraiser or something.
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.480
And they had they had like, I remember they had Lady Gaga and all these other people.
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:11.760
So then, yeah, so then Lamont comes back up into the uh uh where we're sitting there at the Hollywood Bowl, and he's like, What do you think?
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:13.840
We're like unbelievable.
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:22.639
Um we got a couple minutes left in the segment, so now let's let's kind of go towards the where you're at right now with Lyle Love It.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.280
I'm in such a beautiful place.
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.440
It's so interesting, guys.
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:39.840
Uh as I grow older and wiser and as I make new decisions for my life, it is amazing to see how things fall in line.
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:53.280
So uh this is 2026, I think 2018-ish, I decided I wanted to be a country artist and really didn't understand what that meant.
00:58:53.360 --> 00:59:00.800
But you know, I've been rocking, listening to country music for 40 years, and um it's always been near and dear to me.
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.159
Um I started a couple of records and didn't finish them because I just wasn't excited about it.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:11.039
But when the country idea came up, it was just very special.
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:17.760
I'm saying that to say this Lyo Love It situation came out of almost nowhere.
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:22.960
I'd done one of Lyo's records, I think, but never we had I hadn't worked live with him.
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:45.519
And uh got the call to do that gig, and we took care of the business and finding myself on his stage with his band of beasts on their instrument once again required me to do my homework and show up with my best, and or else just be a slacker on stage.
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:52.079
Um so just being in that I don't call Lyle country or I call him country adjacent.
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:52.400
Yeah.
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.960
Um, but that's and that's where my record is.
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:56.880
I I call myself country adjacent.
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:04.880
My record is not traditional country, but it's still got that country hump with the with the bit of who else I am besides country.
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:05.519
Right.
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:11.760
So I'm just grateful to be able to uh make my own decisions and and watch things come together.
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:13.920
It's been it's still being a good ride.
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.039
It's still being a good ride.
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:16.079
Very, very grateful.
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:29.039
I remember I remember growing up and because my parents listened to a lot of country and I had seen Low Love It and I was like his like music videos and stuff.
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:29.360
Yeah.
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:36.400
And I was like, man, this dude has no emotion on his face whatsoever.
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.960
He doesn't do anything with it, he just plays and does, and then that's it.
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:41.199
Yeah.
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:46.559
There's no like, do you feel do you feel what you were playing?
01:00:46.800 --> 01:01:00.239
Obviously grown up now, and now I'm in my 40s, and I'm like, he absolutely did, because you learn about how everyone's prowess is growing up when you're a kid, you don't really you're not really looking at any of that stuff.
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:01.599
It's not hitting you like that.
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.239
But now it's like you're seeing him like, oh, I get it now.
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:04.480
Yes.
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.400
And now I'm like, all right, respect Lyle.
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:06.800
Yeah.
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.400
And he has a dry wit, but he is hilarious.
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:12.159
And he wouldn't think that looking at us.
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:13.679
He wouldn't think that looked like a lot of things.
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.280
But he is hilarious.
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:21.760
And he uh he talks more on stage than any other artist I've ever worked with.
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.559
Uh which, you know, Garth Brooks.
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.119
I'm not working with Garth, but I did see Garth.
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:28.960
Garth talks a lot.
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:29.679
He didn't talk about it.
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:31.199
Shut up, sing songs.
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.280
Well, that's that that was the common uh uh deal.
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.360
You know, get as many songs in as you can.
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:37.760
Right.
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:46.719
So to be on this cat's gig and hear him, his show is over two hours, and in any given show, he might talk for 30 minutes.
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:47.199
Yeah.
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:48.480
Which is a lot.
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:48.880
Yeah.
01:01:49.119 --> 01:02:04.239
But the audience is on baited breath, waiting to hear this story that he's gonna tell about his life and his family and being on the road and and what have you, and that's been uh another big lesson when I when I do my shows.
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.239
Now I talk to the to the audience.
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:06.639
Yeah.
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.719
And just and that is important to do that.
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:09.440
Yes.
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:09.760
Yeah.
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:19.360
But I really thought there was to overdo it maybe was a no-no, but now I'm like, people want to know about your real life too.
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:19.760
Yeah.
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.800
So, you know, like I said, I'm I've been learning, I'm still soaking it up.
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:30.079
It's it's cool you mentioned that too, because there's I I listen to a lot of uh like rock bands and everything.
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:36.000
And uh one one band that I went to, uh, they're called Taking Back Sunday.
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.719
And uh, you know, small little venue, everybody's packed in there.
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.280
Um, but the lead singer uh when we went to this show, you know how they always go like, oh, you know, how's everybody doing?
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.360
You know, everybody's all like oh we're doing great.
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:50.239
He's talking to me.
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.679
Yeah, you know, and them doing that thing, and then he's like, Oh, you know, you know, how are you doing?
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.280
And then everybody's all like, ah, great.
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:57.360
He's like, Oh no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop.
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.320
I'm talking oops, I'm talking to this person right here.
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.119
I want to get I wanna know how they I want to know how they're doing.
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:04.480
Yeah, I'm gonna get to you.
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.400
And then and then the next couple songs will go, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go over here.
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:08.880
Yeah.
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:09.840
How are you doing?
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:11.199
Where are you where are you coming from?
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:17.360
Yeah, and directly talking to people, it it opens up a little bit more of a show, yeah, I think to for everybody.
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.079
Like you're you're not just going there to just listen to music now.
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.280
Now you're getting there to like actually get like a personal experience potentially.
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:24.480
Like, I think that's cool.
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:25.119
It is cool.
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:25.840
I think that's cool.
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:26.719
It's very cool.
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:27.840
It's very cool.
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:40.239
And and I'm mindful in uh bigger venues in in and big arenas and stadiums, I'm mindful to spend some time playing with the people in the nosebleed seats.
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:48.320
Because they're still in the building and they spent their money to be here too, but they're you know, depending on the size of the venue, they can be far away.
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:52.400
But it's important to acknowledge them too and bring them into the party.
01:03:52.639 --> 01:04:02.159
Now, before um we take a another segment break here, um I went through and looked up some stuff about you.
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:03.039
Oh boy.
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:09.039
Uh you know, I and I and I looked and I looked up some I looked up some you know some photos that you have over the over the years.
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:10.079
Oh boy again.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.079
Um so I just picked a random one.
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:12.559
Uh-huh.
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:13.920
I'm gonna show you this picture.
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.840
I'll put it up on the socials when we post this when we post this episode so everybody can see the photo.
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:18.880
I'm so afraid of it.
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:20.400
Um I just picked up a random photo.
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:20.800
Okay.
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.679
I'm gonna show it to you, and I just want you to explain.
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:24.400
This photo.
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:32.719
Explain the photo, what's going on, where you at, who the people are, what what what what time this was, just a random photo.
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.360
I have no prior knowledge to this photo.
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:35.840
Okay.
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.400
You you would you admit that we did not discuss this?
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:39.199
No, we did not.
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:39.920
No, we did not.
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.440
Okay, so I'm just gonna show you this photo.
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.079
Okay, and you're just gonna give me a little little background on it.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.159
So here's the here's the picture right here.
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.400
Ah, that is in Nashville, Tennessee.
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:52.639
Okay.
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.000
And if you show me that again, I can tell you who's in it.
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.159
So I'm on the far left.
01:04:58.239 --> 01:04:59.760
Next to me is Amy Keys.
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:08.880
Um next to Amy is uh Brad Cole, next to Brad is Leland Sklar, and next to Leland is Daryl Sturmer.
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.480
And all five of us were in Phil Collins band together.
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:12.960
There it is.
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.480
But this is at a Lyle Lovitt show uh backstage.
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:23.440
So Brad and Daryl, uh Brad and Daryl came to see me and Amy and Lee.
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:23.760
Okay.
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.559
Uh uh to a Lyle Lovitt show in Nashville.
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.079
Yeah, those are my guys.
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.360
Before we wrap, uh Lamont came into the speakeasy, you know.
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.639
We we let him into the speakeasy, you know, even outside of these podcasts.
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.679
He's a cool dude.
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:37.039
You still blindfold him?
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:37.760
So he doesn't know.
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:39.119
He knows where it is now.
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:40.559
I have my own chair.
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:41.920
He's got his own chair, he's got his.
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.519
I thought you were gonna say you have your own key.
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:44.079
Let's go.
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:44.639
Okay.
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.400
He's got his own top secret code to sneak in here anytime we're not here.
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:48.880
All right.
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:50.719
And he shows we're all he's all excited.
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:51.679
He goes, Look at this picture.
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:52.320
Look at this picture.
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.480
And this picture of about 30, 40 people.
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:56.639
And there's Lamont sitting there.
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.679
And he and I'm looking at the picture, I'm like, I'm gonna come.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:00.480
Us.
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:01.760
Holy shit.
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.400
That's I'm trying to think of what picture.
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:04.880
Okay.
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:07.440
One of the Beatles, maybe?
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.239
Like Ah.
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.400
I finally met a Beatle.
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.920
I met Paul McCartney.
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:12.559
There it is.
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:13.599
I I couldn't believe it.
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:15.519
I'm like, that's freaking Paul McCartney.
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:16.159
Sir, I'm sorry.
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.039
Sir Paul McCartney.
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:17.599
Sir, yeah, yeah.
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:18.320
Sir Paul.
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:18.800
Yes.
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.480
And did you you got to talk to him a little bit?
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:21.519
I got to talk to him.
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:31.280
And during my brief exchange with him, I know what I was saying, but in my mind, I was saying, ooh, stop talking before you say something stupid.
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:32.239
Stop talking.
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:33.119
Stop talking.
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:41.519
But what I wanted to explain to him, that I wanted to explain to him for years is we have we share the same birthday.
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:46.400
Oh so I got to say, Sir Paul, I I do my birthday.
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.559
And one of my life missions is to do my birthday with you.
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.880
And he got a good he got a good laugh.
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:54.320
So I'm still putting that out there, man.
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.960
We got to do June 18th together.
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:57.599
You never know.
01:06:57.920 --> 01:06:58.480
Sooner than later.
01:06:58.719 --> 01:06:59.599
Maybe Paul's listening.
01:06:59.760 --> 01:06:59.920
Yeah.
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:00.400
You never know.
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:01.119
That would be lovely.
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:02.400
But he was lovely.
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:03.440
He was lovely.
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:11.199
And and the way that that happened, I was rehearsing with another band, and the musical director, Greg Filling, said, uh guys, let's take a break.
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.559
One of my friends is here and I want to introduce you guys.
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:28.159
So we put our instruments down and we're walking in the parking lot, and we got like, you know, a hundred feet away, and I could say I was like, that is Paul McCartney.
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.719
He's really just walking us up to meet Sir Paul.
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:34.880
It was pretty, pretty cool.
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:35.679
That's incredible.
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:36.320
Pretty cool.
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:37.360
Incredible for me too.
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:38.719
It's not lost on me, Justin.
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:39.840
It is not.
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:47.440
The the people that I've gotten to meet and the spaces that I've gotten to be in is pretty pretty cool for a little black boy from Oakland.
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:48.079
Oh yeah.
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:48.800
Hell yeah.
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:49.119
Yes.
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:49.599
I'm grateful.
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:50.000
All right.
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.039
Great way to end the segment.
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.039
We are gonna we're gonna wrap this segment up with a with a nice little shiny bow here.
01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:04.159
And when we come back, uh we got our last call coming up, and we got a couple other things to to discuss before we send Lamont off on the road again.
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.239
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Are we the dive masters?
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:13.520
Do we decide will we have an official name or something?
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.600
We haven't given ourselves a name yet.
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:21.199
They are our deep divers.
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:22.880
By the way, before we start.
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:23.600
Buzz.
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:24.720
Yeah.
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.039
Lamont needs another uh what are you drinking?
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:30.479
You're drinking that bravery brewing uh Buster's Brown.
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.560
I'm drinking Busters Brown Hell, baby.
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:40.239
Yeah, and uh Buzz, I'm gonna need uh uh a two uh in a chilled mug, please.
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:41.119
Thank you, Buzz.
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:43.199
To get through this last segment.
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:49.199
So um one of the things that I am most proud of of my friend Lam Mr.
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:56.239
Lamont Van Hoek is his ability to write, create amazing, amazing songs.
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:06.159
And I had the distinct honor to literally go over to his house, go to he's got a nice studio there, and literally watch him put this album together.
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:14.560
And uh so we're gonna the next uh big part of this segment is gonna be all about this album that you released.
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.840
Yeah, and with that said, go for it.
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.399
Yeah, I am so grateful, you guys.
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:24.239
Uh my first full project under my name.
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.239
Uh yeah, I'm really excited and grateful.
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.600
But Buzz is trying to clap, but he was kind of weird.
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:34.000
That was funny though, Buzz.
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:35.680
I feel the love, Buzz.
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:36.479
Yeah, we love you, Buzz.
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.640
A bunch of knuckles hitting each other.
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:41.520
Uh I did a country record, y'all.
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:51.439
And uh as we were alluding to before, I've had uh different producers and directors and different people ask me, would I consider changing my name?
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:54.880
And the answer has always been no, emphatically.
01:10:55.039 --> 01:11:00.159
But uh so I decided to get people used to saying my name with the title of my record.
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.560
So I titled my record My Name is Lamont Van Hook.
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:05.439
Love it just to get people saying it.
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:06.319
Love it.
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.199
And uh yeah, yeah, this record is still plugging along.
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:16.960
I thought uh with my resume, I did think it would be a lot easier to get some attention.
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.119
Uh, but I'm cool with paying some more dues because I'm not stopping.
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:21.439
Yeah.
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.840
So I'm already writing for the next one, and we still got a couple of singles to pull off of this one.
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.159
So some good things are in store, you guys.
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:40.479
So uh follow me on the socials, Lamont Van Hook on Instagram and TikTok now and YouTube and Facebook, and I'm probably leaving something out because socials aren't my thing, you guys.
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:41.439
I'm trying to post more.
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:43.600
Even though it's not Twitter.
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:45.279
I refuse to call it X.
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.079
It's Twitter.
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:47.119
It always will be Twitter.
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:47.760
A tweet.
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:48.960
Yes, a tweet.
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:50.319
Uh I don't X.
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:51.279
Yes, exactly.
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:52.079
That's stupid.
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:52.479
Exactly.
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:53.199
A tweet.
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:55.279
But I am uh grateful.
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.279
Yeah, check out this record and and uh hit me up at uh my email.
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:00.319
I guess I'm gonna do that.
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.239
Lamont at Lamontvanhook.com.
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:04.319
Hit me up, and I will do my best to hit you back.
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.199
But please, please, and thank you for listening.
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.199
Well, I I think we should talk a little bit more about it because this is a big deal, man.
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.359
I've listened I've listened to every song on that album.
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:16.399
And you can and I haven't gotten to listen to any of it yet.
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:22.479
So I yeah, I I'm I'm I'm green into this, so I'm gonna be able to listen to some stuff.
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:23.520
Yeah, so yeah, that's it.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:29.520
Yeah, and he and and occasionally uh, and it's a it's a really sweet thing, keep your eyes out for this.
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:36.399
Lamont will go down and perform at one of the greatest places in LA to perform the baked potato.
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:37.760
Iconic, yeah.
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:38.640
Iconic.
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:39.600
It's iconic.
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:45.119
It's like the people that have been there, it's like it's a very what 50, 60 people get in there, 70?
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:46.479
I think it's 98.
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:48.319
98 if I am not mistaken.
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.880
But yeah, but in that front area there, it's not very big.
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:53.600
But anyway, you go down there and you get a nice baked potato.
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.079
It's like the size of a freaking football or something, man.
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:57.039
It's like crazy.
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:05.520
Yeah, but um it's it's intimate, and Lamont just you know, he basically just says hi to everybody and hugs everybody.
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:15.840
But you know, you've gone down there a few times and and played many songs off that album and with with some of the greatest performers of all time that that back you up, which is crazy.
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:16.800
My friends.
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:28.159
But um if if if you're loving this podcast, um make a little investment and and and and buy his by his record, man, it's like freaking it's it's special.
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:39.359
And the songs, and I remember we're sitting in your backyard and you're playing these songs, and I'm I'm kind of a big hook uh guy that's uh about hooky music, you know.
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:46.159
And every song that he wrote on that song, which he wrote them all, uh except for the one, which is kind of special too.
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:47.760
I wrote nine out of eleven.
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:49.439
Okay, I'm sorry, nine out of eleven.
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:49.680
Uh-huh.
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.159
Yeah, Wichita Lyman's on there, and he does a version of headband, but is ahead.
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:55.760
Yeah.
01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:04.319
But no, every song that the nine songs that he wrote on that on that album or record or whatever you call it these days, it's they don't have them anymore, unfortunately.
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:05.279
Those are the good old days.
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:07.199
Do they still call them LPs?
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.039
You rarely hear that.
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.760
I see, I grew up in the in the era of LPs.
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:12.319
Me too.
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:13.119
And owls.
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:19.359
And you you I will still hear somebody still hear someone say it, you know, I I just bought a new album, I got a new album out.
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.279
Mostly I hear people say project now.
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:21.840
Yeah.
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:25.439
Because I was saying CD, but every I'm a dinosaur, I still buy CDs.
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:28.000
Listen to that new download?
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.319
Because that's that's all music is now.
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:30.960
That's today.
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:31.680
That's today.
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:32.720
Yeah, it's a download.
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:33.359
Yeah.
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:40.159
Yeah, you don't get to hold anything and see the cover artwork and see the credits that now the kids just downloads.
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:40.800
Yeah.
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.600
I wanted to see who made this music thing.
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.439
That was my favorite thing of buying like CDs.
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:57.039
I go like you know, warehouse and all that stuff, and open up the thing and I pulled a little sheet out and opened it up and like read the stuff, read the lyrics and all that stuff, and like it was damn.
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.319
Yeah, those days are gone.
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:58.880
Yeah.
01:14:59.199 --> 01:14:59.920
Those days are gone.
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:01.039
It's it's different.
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.920
Yeah, we did we did a lot with this record.
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.680
We got a big uh booklet that you can pull out and unfold.
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:23.039
Uh, but the lyrics we're so in much information just for the credits uh that the lyrics we did print them, but you gotta go on my website, LamontBanhook.com, to see the lyrics and check them out because I think they're good good words.
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:26.880
And you still gotta call Phil to see if he'll come and do a song with you on the next album.
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:29.039
I'm gonna call him uh shortly.
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:29.760
Oh yeah.
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.000
You know what's really cool too, and and I'm pretty sure I got this right.
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:44.000
So when he put his website up, on the website, he's got a little um thing that um Phil put on there.
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:44.479
Yeah.
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.720
Just to show the love, basically.
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:48.000
And that's what it was.
01:15:48.079 --> 01:16:02.000
I I reached out to him uh and asked him, would he I reached out to a couple of people and asked them would they give me a couple of lines of quotes that I could use on my socials.
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:12.720
And Phil was the first one, he hit me back the next day, and and he was the only one that hit me back out of the few people that I reached out to.
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.680
And he asked me to give him 24 hours.
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.680
And when he's I thought you were gonna say he was asking asking for 24 bucks.
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.359
I can't do this for free.
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:23.920
Okay.
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:24.399
Yeah, I'm sorry.
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:25.520
I'd have gone for it.
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:26.640
I'd have gone for it.
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:34.399
Uh but just that kind of love, and he did not write a line or two, he wrote a couple paragraphs that we still haven't used everything, just gushing.
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.800
Really made me feel so yeah, loved and appreciated.
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:40.159
You know, just think about that.
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.600
He's he let he sat down in front of a computer and wrote that and and put a lot of thought into it.
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:46.720
That was before AI.
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:46.960
Yeah.
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:47.840
So he actually wrote it.
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.199
He actually did it, yes.
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:50.399
But no, I've read that.
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:51.840
I read that and I was like blown away.
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.439
It's like Phil too Phil loves Lamont, man.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.640
And I love him back, and he knows it, and I know he loves me.
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:02.960
And and I, you know, Fred White again uh has taught me so much.
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:03.920
That's a quote from Fred.
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:05.680
Is that Phil calling us right now?
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:06.640
Wait, is he listening?
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:07.760
No, it's not live.
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.239
Sorry.
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:10.880
Fred taught me that love is an action word.
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.079
You don't just say I love you, and and that's it.
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.039
Then you you show some sign somehow.
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:19.119
And yeah, and he's absolutely done that.
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:21.600
Did Fred did Fred sing on the album at all?
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:22.239
Absolutely.
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:22.560
Oh, yeah.
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:23.840
Fred's all over this record.
01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.199
And and I know uh at least one of the Perry sisters is on there.
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:29.439
Uh Lori's on it, and Carolyn is on it.
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:30.079
Nice.
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.239
Uh and uh is Leland on there a little bit?
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:33.840
Leland's being on Wheels Online.
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:35.279
I'm sorry.
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:37.359
That is great.
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.119
Uh the engineers, Eric Zoller mixed most of this record.
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:45.199
Uh Mick Guzowski, who's done so many other hit records.
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:45.680
Yeah.
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:50.479
Uh uh Rob, what's Rob's Oh, Don't Kill Me, Rob, in Nashville.
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:52.720
Uh he mixed two songs for me.
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.359
I can't think of your last name, Rob, but thank you.
01:17:55.600 --> 01:18:01.199
My record, I tell people, I whether you if you like the record, great.
01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:03.600
If you don't like the record, it's still all my fault.
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.199
Because I got the record I wanted.
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.640
You'll like trust me, listeners, what I intended.
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.920
You will like the record.
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:11.760
You will like you will love the record.
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:12.399
I hope so.
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.600
There's there's there's so many, there's so many great songs on that, on that.
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.600
And uh so many great moments.
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:18.239
Yeah, exactly.
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.920
And these are all just my friends that helped me make this record.
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:33.279
And unlike Justin, who just sang a little bit on the uh last segment, I believe, uh Lamont's not gonna sing.
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:34.000
That's fine.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:39.199
But if you want to hear him sing, you go on, you go on to Lamontvanhoek.com.
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:46.239
That's right, and you purchase that and you listen to it, and you throw it in the car, and yeah, you're driving somewhere and you're listening to that and you just can feel happy.
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:46.720
Yeah.
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.399
That's that's the whole point.
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:49.119
Exactly.
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:55.359
Spotify, it's uh Apple Music, it's all of the places you can find it.
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:56.399
Yeah.
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:59.039
Have you or or will you?
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:01.039
I don't I don't know if you have or or haven't.
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:02.159
I didn't see that anywhere.
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:04.079
Um perform out here.
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:06.399
Like perform a live show out here.
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.680
Uh for the home for the home crew down here.
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.479
I don't think I've done anything like in the Antelope Valley.
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:14.880
Okay.
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:16.560
I would love to play LPAC.
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.960
That's where I would think like everybody would want to at least perform once.
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:21.199
Yeah.
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:22.159
It's just LPAC.
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:27.359
I've been to a couple shows there, and some of the artists I've worked with have played there just not when I was in the band.
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:29.119
Just didn't happen.
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:34.399
I would love to do a show at home, and I could be leave the gig and be in my own bed in 15 minutes.
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:35.600
Are you kidding me?
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:37.279
That's unheard of.
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:40.319
And and Buzz could get you some Busters Brown, probably too.
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:42.720
Yeah, waiting at the door when I get home.
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:43.840
Hit me, Buzz.
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.640
Better than on the stage while you're singing.
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:47.600
I'm cool with that.
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.319
Just constantly refreshed with Busters Brown.
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:52.560
On stage, I call it medicine.
01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:53.199
There it is.
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.039
I need medicine, somebody.
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:56.159
Medicine me.
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:08.239
I think before we get into the favorite, my favorite part of the podcast, where we ask our guests to give us five very interesting facts about their lives that a lot of people don't know.
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.279
We're gonna hit that in a second, but it just popped in my head.
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:15.840
What was the biggest crowd you ever performed in front of?
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:16.560
That's a good one.
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:17.520
Can you remember that?
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:19.199
Yes, I'll never forget it.
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:21.039
That was Rod Stewart days.
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:28.800
We did uh Rio, Rocking in Rio, 98, New Year's Eve 98, going into 99.
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:35.439
And we were in the Guinness Book of World Records at that time for the most people at a concert was over a million people.
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.359
And I think when I was looking at pictures, I think I had the picture of you standing in that.
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:42.960
I think that was on one of them.
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:43.520
Okay, maybe.
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.239
But I think that might have been the one that you're talking about.
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:48.800
That's crazy.
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:56.000
Up and down the beach, uh Copacabana beach and out in the water on their boats.
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:57.600
It was crazy.
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.319
A million.
01:20:58.640 --> 01:20:59.119
It was crazy.
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:00.319
A million people.
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:00.880
Wow.
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:09.199
Yeah, just up and you know, they had big uh screens and and uh audio speakers set up and down the beach so that people could hear and enjoy the show.
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:13.039
But at that time, that was the biggest concert ever.
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:13.760
Wow.
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.359
That's in South America.
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.880
I mean, you know, people do 50,000 seats.
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:20.079
And that's a lot of people.
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:20.399
Right.
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.079
And they're like, I don't know, is that that's Phil Collins.
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:24.960
That's Phil Collins.
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:27.199
That's a Phil Collins stage.
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:27.520
Okay.
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.399
Can't remember what stadiums were at massive.
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:31.359
That was massive.
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:32.079
It was massive.
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:33.359
Phil played stadiums.
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.560
It was, you know.
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:36.159
Yeah, we played some we played.
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:43.039
We played uh Phil played some 90,000 seat stadiums for multiple nights.
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:44.720
I think we have time for this.
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:50.159
I there's one of the cool this is one of the coolest Lamont Van Hoek stories in my mind.
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:51.359
There's so many of them.
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.640
So many of them.
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:54.880
So I think it was the Hollywood Bowl.
01:21:55.039 --> 01:22:00.960
So he would get there, do soundcheck, and then he would go in the worst seats all the way in the back.
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:04.319
Well, there's no bad seat in the Hollywood Bowl, but okay, you know, people are in the way in the back.
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.159
You know what we you know where I'm going with this, right?
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.880
And you would have access to what a two seats like almost up front.
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:12.479
Pretty close.
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:12.960
Yeah.
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:13.359
Yeah.
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:14.399
Tell the story.
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.920
You you would go up in the back and you just say hi to you, and they didn't know who you were.
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.760
You're just like some guy walking around like I I like to people watch.
01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:22.239
Yeah.
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:26.560
And once the house doors open, uh, I just walk around.
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:28.479
You know, put my pass under my shirt.
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:33.279
I'm just another Joe walking around, and I love hearing people talk about whomever they're here to see.
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:34.960
Let's say it's Rod.
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:44.319
You know, uh just overhear people talking about their favorite Rod Stewart song, or the first time they saw him, or the last time they saw him, what he was wearing, and how much fun they had.
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.199
So I I go over to the ball.
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:47.760
Anything.
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.720
And just people are talking, anticipating the show.
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:59.600
I would walk around in the nosebleed seats, you know, they would the uh production would give everybody in the band two tickets for each show.
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:05.279
And if I didn't have guests, I would get my two tickets in hand and go up to the nosebleeds and invite somebody to come.
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.119
You want to come sit down on the floor?
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:07.840
That's awesome.
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.079
You know, and most people would be so excited.
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:12.319
There were a few times where people were like, Who are you?
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:15.520
And these tickets are not real, and why would you do that?
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:20.079
Have me pack up all my stuff to walk down there that's not a real seat.
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.039
Worst case scenario, they're gonna go back to the nosebleed seats, right?
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:24.239
If you're BSing them.
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:25.119
Yes, but you weren't.
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:25.760
Yes, yes.
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:27.279
And then they're you just make their day.
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:28.239
Yes.
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:31.520
And when I, you know, when they see you on stage and go, oh shit.
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:34.399
Exactly.
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:35.119
He was real.
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:36.239
Yeah, we'll take them.
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:37.439
We'll take them now.
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:38.960
Yes, exactly.
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:43.840
And then after that, after those people going to these concerts, they're like, Where's Lamont Fen looking at?
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:45.119
I'm looking for him, man.
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:46.399
I want to go to the front.
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:47.359
Yes, yes.
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:54.560
But that's always uh a joy, you know, when you see some people that you're able to uh like that, they really enjoy the show.
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:55.439
Oh, that's great.
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.039
Yeah, because they have a little, you know, a little extra connection or whatever.
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:03.119
Okay, so here's where I don't think we're gonna embarrass you, but we're gonna do the top.
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:14.399
So we ask you uh to send us the five interesting facts about your life that a lot of people and and I've read all these, and there's a couple that are just I can't wait for the birthday cake.
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:16.239
Oh, very real.
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:16.880
That's very real.
01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.119
So I think Justin's gonna start us off with the first one.
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.359
Okay, so I got the so I got the first one.
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.840
So uh it just simply says gun accident.
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:26.800
Yes, it does.
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:33.920
So you're going to need to explain in some detail here about what gun accident means.
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:35.439
Because that could go a few different ways.
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:36.319
It could.
01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:41.760
Uh what had happened was I was three years old, you guys.
01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:43.119
Three, oh my god.
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:44.960
This is not starting off well.
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:45.760
Yeah.
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:48.960
It gets better, but this is not starting off well.
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:49.279
Yeah.
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:50.560
Three years old and gunning.
01:24:50.800 --> 01:25:00.000
Uh, me and my mom were living with her dad, my grandfather at the time, and he was an avid hunter, and he had his shotgun in the corner like it was a broom.
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.800
And I was told on no uncertain terms, 1,000 times never to touch it.
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:18.399
Um, but this particular day I was watching, sitting in my mother's lap, watching a movie, and my mother told me recently, within the last maybe five years or so, that this was actually Halloween, which I never put that together.
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:25.279
But I got up out of her uh lap to go to the bathroom, and on the way to the bathroom, I saw this gun and decided to touch it.
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:35.359
And I put my index finger on my right hand over the barrel, and I put my and I pulled the trigger with the index finger on my left hand.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.239
And the chaos that ensued, I remember it so well.
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.439
My mother came screaming and running, she looked like a cartoon, like her hair was just, it was crazy.
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:53.279
Um But anyway, I found my grandfather's shotgun when I'm when I was three and shot the top digit of my right index finger off.
01:25:54.239 --> 01:26:04.800
Um my mom says that as tragic as it was, if it had to happen, as good it happened then as a three-year-old, because I hadn't started using my hands yet to write or play or anything.
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:09.279
So since I've been using my hands, my hand has been like it is.
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:15.760
Um But I also what it affords me is to tell kids about gun safety.
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:16.159
Yeah.
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:21.359
Because kids being little, my hand is at their eye level.
01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:21.680
Yeah.
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:27.680
The adults in my life, uh I have to tell them or they'll notice after they've known me for years.
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:28.720
What in the world?
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:29.680
What's going on with your hand?
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:34.880
I was like, oops, I had an accident with a gun when I was a kid, but the kids see it right away.
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:39.840
And I get to tell them, you know, uh, if you ever see a gun, don't touch it.
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:40.159
Yeah.
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:44.880
Go find one of your parents or go find an adult, or or uh, do you want a finger like mine?
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:46.239
And the answer is always no.
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:47.279
Well, that's great.
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:49.439
I didn't want it either, but don't touch.
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:51.920
I get to tell kids about gun safety.
01:26:52.000 --> 01:27:03.680
And if there's a lot of kids at an event, a family event or a party or something, inevitably the the one kid I told about my finger will come back with three or four kids in in tow.
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:04.079
Right.
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:05.600
Can you show them your finger?
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:06.560
Can they touch it?
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.279
Does it hurt?
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:12.800
And I'm like, we could do all of that if you understand that if you see a gun, you're not to touch it.
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:13.039
Yeah.
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:14.640
You are to go the other way.
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:14.960
Yeah.
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:16.720
Unless you want one of these like me.
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:18.000
And yeah.
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.199
And I'm I'm grateful to be able to do that part.
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:21.840
There you go.
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.159
Because it was traumatic, but I'm still here.
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:24.800
There it is.
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:25.359
I'm still here.
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:26.479
Just a finger.
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:27.039
Yeah.
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:32.720
As Justin and I are sitting here looking at your uh right index finger, missing about I wasn't looking.
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.479
I would say about 1.75 inches is gone.
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:38.880
How do you play the piano like that?
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:40.239
It's interesting.
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:48.159
The uh professor that got me into the music department at Howard, he asked me the same qu he he I was playing something for him.
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:52.239
I was playing something, and he said, Oh my god, do you play with your finger?
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.199
And I was, you know, smart mouth kid.
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:58.399
And I looked right at him and said, Do you play with your finger?
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:07.920
And and To his credit, instead of treating me like I was being a little asshole, he said, You know what, young man, I'm gonna get you in my program.
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:15.680
And the rest is history at Howard, because he stayed in my corner through my four years there and uh took care of me.
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:20.079
If you would have said that to JK Simmons and Whiplash, he would have thrown a tray at you.
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:20.720
Exactly.
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:21.359
Exactly.
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.279
He'd have thrown a chair at you, man.
01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:24.079
Exactly.
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:25.279
Yes, indeed.
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:26.319
What a great film.
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:35.520
Okay, so number number two, and and I know, I know, I think I know about this, but you you tell us you're an avid cook and an avid baker.
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:36.239
Oh yeah.
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:37.680
Tell us about that, man.
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:39.920
Food porn is my addiction.
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:41.359
I can watch Martha Stewart.
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:42.960
This is a safe place you can talk.
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:43.520
Okay.
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.520
I could watch Martha Stewart.
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.439
I could watch America's Test Kitchen.
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:52.560
I can watch the Great British Baking Show like all day.
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:54.159
Like all day.
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:56.399
And I do from time to time.
01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.079
I love, I live by myself, so if I want to eat, I gotta cook.
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:03.840
And I come from a family of great cooks and bakers.
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:07.520
So you know, cakes and pies and puddings and cookies.
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:09.520
I love, love, love.
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:10.720
And I just got a new toy.
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.239
I just bought my dream mixer.
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.680
So I just spent I'm gonna make some bread in the next couple days.
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:16.399
There you go.
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.119
And uh yeah, put this thing through its paces.
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:22.960
Cause the new, the new KitchenAid has a half speed for folding.
01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.199
So you don't have to put it all the way to one.
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:26.560
You can put it to half.
01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:27.680
Love it.
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.600
Yeah, but I love, yeah, I love being in the kitchen.
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:32.399
That's cool, man.
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:33.520
Ramsey or nah?
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.159
Say it again.
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:35.520
Ramsey or nah.
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:38.000
Because a lot of people are love hate with him.
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:38.560
Nah.
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:38.960
Nah.
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:39.359
Okay.
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:39.840
That's it.
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:40.640
I don't like mean.
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:41.520
I like it in the kids.
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:45.279
I don't, I don't like, I don't like the way you see these reality shows in wrestling.
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:46.560
He's cheeky mean though.
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.800
I don't think he was really like mean like that.
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:50.960
I need my food to be prepared with love.
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.359
I need some love on this though.
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:53.760
Yeah.
01:29:54.159 --> 01:30:05.760
Um so next one I have here is uh your your guilt your guilty pleasure is as aforementioned birthday cake.
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:10.239
Uh it says here that you say it is a food group and that you will eat it year-round.
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:12.159
Please delve into that a little bit.
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:19.920
Because I I tell I tell my wife all the time because I love cake, uh-huh, and that's one of the main reasons why I got married.
01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:20.479
Okay.
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:21.439
Is cake.
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:21.840
Yes.
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:23.359
Your wedding cake was the bomb.
01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:28.640
Yeah, a lot of people around, because I know my wife, and she thinks it's funny, but other people here they're like, that's not funny.
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:29.439
That's fine.
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:29.840
I get it.
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:30.560
I think it's funny.
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:31.279
I get it.
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:32.479
I can relate.
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:33.760
I don't know what it is.
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:38.159
The buttercream frosting with all the flowers and piping.
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:39.520
I love birthday cakes.
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:46.640
So, I mean, we're talking like you're going into a store, like you're going into like an Alberts and the Stater Brothers of Costco, you're you're getting a birthday cake.
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:47.279
Yes.
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:47.760
Yes.
01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:50.079
Are you having them like write messages on it?
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:51.840
Not all the time, but sometimes.
01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:54.960
And then you're just, and then you just go home and you just eat the birthday cake.
01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:56.000
For a couple days.
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:56.640
Yeah.
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.000
And some ice cream.
01:30:58.560 --> 01:30:58.960
Yeah.
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.359
I'm working on one right now, the honest truth.
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:01.680
Okay.
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:02.960
I'm working on one right now.
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:10.880
I just go out on a loom and say we're never going to have a guest that ever comes up with that one.
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.359
I love no, that's a that's that's no.
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:15.840
I buy birthday cake all year.
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.159
Uh okay, that's pretty freaking.
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:19.439
Celebrating it every year.
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:20.399
There you go.
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:20.880
Okay.
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:21.359
There you go.
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:25.279
So I the next one, um, I'm with you on this, brother.
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:25.840
Uh-huh.
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:31.279
I do not Lamont Van Hook does not like scary movies.
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:31.680
I do.
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.720
I used to love Dracula and Frankenstein.
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:37.359
Now I have nightmares for nights.
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:37.680
Okay.
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:40.159
So I don't even mess around.
01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:48.960
There's some new movies that I understand are really great, but if it's on the verge of being a scary movie, I won't see it because I know it's it stays with me.
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:53.680
So I used to work at Halloween Horror Nights, so now I know to not ever invite you to that.
01:31:54.319 --> 01:31:54.640
Okay.
01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.439
Free ticket and everything, just still a still a naw.
01:31:59.600 --> 01:31:59.760
Okay.
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:00.479
Hard naw.
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.000
I'm hard naw.
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:05.119
I'm scary anyway, and that yeah, that would take a little bit.
01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:07.199
Hey, Buzz, do you like scary movies?
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:08.800
He's like shaking his head.
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:10.399
No, he doesn't like me either, man.
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:11.039
Okay.
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:13.520
But you like scary movies, Justin?
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:14.079
Oh, yeah.
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.039
Uh I I used to like scary movies, but it was one of my favorite genres.
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:18.319
I get nightmares too, man.
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:19.760
It's like I don't want to watch scary movies.
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:22.720
I mean, yeah, it it'll mess with you, but that's kind of the point.
01:32:22.880 --> 01:32:26.000
It's supposed to make you like afraid of life a little bit.
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:33.199
Like one of my like one that messes with messed with me was not the newest version of it, but it's called The Strangers.
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:33.840
Yeah.
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:35.359
And that's real.
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:36.399
I like that.
01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:42.079
The real stuff that can happen to you, not the supernatural, crazy stuff that happens.
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.640
That no, I don't yeah, that that that still messes with me.
01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:48.640
But like a Chuck E doll walking around, I'm good.
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:50.560
I know because I know that can't happen.
01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:52.239
I know it can't happen, though.
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:53.199
It's not real.
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.079
Speaking of Chucky, I gotta just tell you real quick.
01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:02.479
I'm sure my son Brian's gonna listen to this podcast, and uh oh my god, he used to like freak out about the Chuck E Doll thing, man.
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:03.039
Me too.
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:03.520
Me too.
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:05.199
Yeah, I mean you're a cute, I guess.
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.319
I think he's still I think he still wigs out if he sees a Chucky thing.
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:09.039
Yeah, I would.
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:09.600
Okay.
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:10.239
I would.
01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:11.520
That's a good one, man.
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:12.319
Thanks for sharing that.
01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:14.079
Yeah, I'm not a horror movie guy.
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.399
You gave me a little idea about Brian now.
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:24.319
Um so next one I have here is that uh that you have a large collection of manual and power tools.
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:33.439
Yeah, you know, for some reason, Justin, my circle, like my family, some of my family too, they don't believe I can fix stuff.
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:33.920
Okay.
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:35.680
And I like fixing stuff.
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:43.920
My dad, uh, and my stepdad, as a matter of fact, were both very, they were both mechanics, and my dad is still here, my stepdad passed.
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:49.920
But they're both mechanics and both very handy, and my dad, both of them would make me help them.
01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:54.239
You know, I wanted to play my piano and listen to my records, and that could have been my life.
01:33:54.560 --> 01:34:06.399
But they were like, You're gonna help me put in the brakes on this car, you're gonna help me build a wall for this new house edition, you're gonna help me with plumbing, you're gonna help me with some lightweight electrical.
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:13.680
So those things that I really, really, really did not want to learn have served me quite well.
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:17.279
And I literally have a garage full of tools that I use.
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:22.239
What's the what's the one thing that you have fixed that you're the most proud of?
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.000
Oh, probably my hardwood floors downstairs in my house.
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:26.319
Okay.
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:34.319
Friend of mine, this uh flooring contractor, uh, he and his wife flew out to help me and and teach me how to install hardwood floors.
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.359
It wasn't like a moment where like you like you had carpet and then you ripped it up.
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:39.039
I'm like, oh my god, I have hardwood floors.
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:44.720
No, you put I had carpet and and and downstairs, and when I pulled the carpet up, it was a slab.
01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:45.439
There you go.
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.399
So yeah, we we put the carp we put the hardwood slopes.
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:50.880
I've been there.
01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:51.680
It's beautiful, man.
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:52.319
That was funny.
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:54.000
Yeah.
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:54.720
Yeah.
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:56.000
You know, uh yeah.
01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:58.239
I he Joe helped me, Joe Lang.
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.000
Hey Joe, if you and Jerry are listening.
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:06.239
Um he helped me do the uh living room, dining room in my house is one long room.
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:11.279
Okay, and and he helped me do that, and then I did the family room pretty much by myself once he showed me what to do.
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.680
If we ever get Diana Ross in here, I'm gonna ask her if she ever put down a hardware floor in her life.
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.359
No, she'll she'll she'll be on her.
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:18.319
Okay.
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:18.960
We'll get her.
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.760
Sorry, now comes our our favorite part of the show.
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:22.479
This is the wrap up.
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:27.840
This is this is the wrap-up for uh our our podcast tonight, and it's called we call it last call.
01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:28.239
Okay.
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:30.640
By the way, oh last call speaking of that.
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:31.199
Hey, Buzz.
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:32.159
Yeah, hit me one month.
01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:33.359
No, he just said that's it.
01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:34.159
It's last call.
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:35.119
We can't get another drink.
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:37.439
He's following the rules, man, that you gave dude.
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:38.319
Oh man.
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:39.840
No, it's not gonna do it.
01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:40.319
All right, I guess.
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:41.039
He's not gonna do it.
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:41.439
Last call.
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:42.479
All right.
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.319
So we'll get you your tab after.
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:45.359
Thank you.
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:46.239
We'll get it figured out.
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:48.239
So that we we go back and forth on this one.
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:50.399
So um, what is Mr.
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:55.840
Van Hook, my buddy Lamont, what is your go-to cocktail?
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:57.680
Cocktail.
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.560
Cocktail is a mixed drink.
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:01.279
Yes.
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:07.680
Uh, if I have to have a mixed drink, we'll do it lat last like last night, you know, maybe vodka crane.
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:14.000
But if I'm having booze, I I've been a cognac drinker for years, but I'm learning whiskey now.
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.479
And Scotch, because of you, you turned me on a Scotch Bart.
01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:24.159
I wasn't a Scotch guy, but you know, now some Balvinny or uh Lafroig or Glenn Fiddletz, I'm like, I'm here.
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:25.439
Neat or on the rocks.
01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:25.920
Neat.
01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:26.560
Neat, yeah.
01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:26.880
Neat.
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.840
Or the uh metal ice cubes that don't water down.
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:31.439
It doesn't water it down, yeah.
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:31.920
No, no.
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.680
You get an expensive whiskey, you don't want to like water it down.
01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:36.720
Put an ice cube in it.
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:37.520
People do.
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:38.239
Oh, absolutely.
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.239
But I yeah, I don't I want to taste the booze.
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:43.760
And just wait until you get to a point where you have your own scotch called Lamont.
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.039
Hey, how about it?
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:45.920
How about it, friend?
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:48.399
Yes, like a like a 12-year Lamont?
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:48.800
Yes.
01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.680
Um, man.
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:52.560
You never know.
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:56.960
Um your favorite sport to watch on TV.
01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:59.680
Ooh, it has changed with the Olympics.
01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:00.960
You know, I could watch curling.
01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:02.479
Olympics are fun to watch.
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:05.520
I could watch uh hanging out with Bart and a couple of my other friends.
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:07.439
I could watch golf now because I understand it.
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:17.359
Um, you know, I grew up watching football, baseball, and basketball, and that's still fun, and boxing, you know, when Ollie and Fraser, Ken Norton, when all that was going on.
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:17.760
Yeah.
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:23.119
Uh, but again, that was really my brother's and my dad's bonding moment.
01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:30.399
You know, I used to know all the players because that's what you did back then when I was a kid, but I would rather see Gladys Knight.
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:32.000
I really would.
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:33.680
I really would than Reggie.
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.079
Watching the Super Bowl for the halftime show.
01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:36.640
Yes.
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:37.119
That's me.
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:38.079
I mean, that's which is fine.
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:38.560
That's me.
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:39.119
Which is fine.
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:39.520
Yes.
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.640
I w I know who's playing the game, but I don't know how they got there.
01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:44.800
The playoffs, I have no idea.
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.479
But I will watch the halftime show.
01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:49.520
He shows up to the halftime show, watches it at the bar, and then leaves.
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:50.000
Yes.
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:52.479
And watch the commercials.
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:53.119
I love it.
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:53.359
Yeah.
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:54.000
I love it.
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:54.960
Next question.
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:58.319
This this one takes a little thought, so don't don't just jump right on to it.
01:37:58.560 --> 01:37:59.680
That's one of my favorite ones that you go.
01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:00.399
I love this one.
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:00.800
Yeah.
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:20.079
So if if uh if you could be sitting here in the speakeasy right now, smoking a cigar, having your busters brown, and you could pick any historic figure to be sitting in my seat or Justin's seat just to have a a beer or a cocktail and just shoot the shit essentially.
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:21.039
Alive or dead.
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:21.600
Huh.
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:22.079
Yeah.
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:23.119
Who would that be?
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:25.119
You know, we were thinking about that one.
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:30.960
Yeah, we were we were at Bravery the other night and you were asking about singers that I love, and we talked about Aretha.
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:33.760
You know, just to have a girl in the mix tonight.
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.479
I know she smokes cigarettes at some point in her life.
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:46.640
I don't know if she smokes cigars ever, but if Aretha could be in this room and just talk, just talk to me about what was the session like for Ain't No Way.
01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:53.279
What was the session like for respect when you did after you finished that lead vocal, were you happy?
01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:55.520
Or where did you want to do it again?
01:38:56.239 --> 01:39:03.199
Uh yeah, it could be so many people, but I would love to have some quality FaceTime with Aretha Franklin.
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:04.000
Good answer.
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.319
Ah, that's impressive because um thank you.
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:10.640
I think that that's legit because our last guest, uh, it was believe it or not, Pee Wee Herman.
01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:13.760
But yeah, you know, well, you know, everybody's got their you know.
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:14.479
That's right.
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:15.199
That's right.
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:17.039
Pee-wee was doing his thing until he wasn't.
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.079
Well, hey, it's all good.
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:21.760
I got love for you, Pee-wee.
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:23.840
We all love Pee-wee.
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:26.239
Yeah, oh my God.
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:28.239
Today's word of the day is Lama.
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:32.239
You are funny.
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:33.039
Yeah.
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:34.880
People disagree.
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:38.800
So uh the next one here, this is this is interesting.
01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:46.399
Given our given our guest, uh your favorite musical artist, and it does not have to mean it's someone that you perform with.
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:52.720
It could just be someone that you get in the car and like, I this is my go-to list, like, go to listen.
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:53.359
This is it.
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:54.000
Stevie.
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:55.119
Stevie?
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:56.239
Yeah.
01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:56.640
Okay.
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:00.720
You know, and uh it could be so many, but Stevie.
01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:02.399
Yeah.
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:10.399
And I've had the pleasure to work with him live and in the studio, and he's such a wealth of knowledge, but a beautiful soul.
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:11.920
Just yeah.
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:12.479
I love it.
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:12.960
It was fun.
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:13.840
You know what?
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:18.720
Speaking of Stevie Wonder, um, I've always I've always wondered about I mean, I he's blind.
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:20.079
He's completely blind, right?
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:22.720
He doesn't even see like gray or nothing, it's just black, right?
01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:23.119
I don't know.
01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:24.239
That I don't know.
01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:32.720
But do you think that you know they say that when people lose one of their senses, their other senses become more powerful?
01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:33.359
Uh-huh.
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:39.199
Um, if he had total perfect vision, maybe he wouldn't have been the superstar he was.
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:39.600
I don't know.
01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:40.000
Maybe.
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:40.800
You know what I'm saying?
01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:41.119
Yeah.
01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:48.239
I've always thought about that because I don't know how you can write all these songs and perform on stage and play the piano totally blind.
01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:48.720
Yes.
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:50.560
And and sing these songs he sang.
01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:52.880
And right, he wrote most of his songs, I believe.
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:53.520
Yes.
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:54.399
It's unreal.
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:59.119
And you know, when when he started, you know, he had hits as a solo artist from little Stevie Wonder.
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:01.439
Little Stevie Wonder, he's like, what, 14 or something?
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:02.640
Yeah, I think 13 or 13.
01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:02.960
13.
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:03.840
Yeah, crazy.
01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:16.079
And but when he started being grown-up Stevie Wonder, you know, music of my mind, I think that was 1974, where he played all the instruments on the record for the and that was one of the first times anybody had ever done that.
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:16.560
Yeah.
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.760
Uh where he was writing and producing his own records.
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:20.159
Yeah.
01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:28.640
He was, you know, I think when he wrote Talking Book with uh You Are the Sunshine of My Life and Maybe Your Baby and Tuesday Heartbreak on that record.
01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:30.479
I don't know if he was 30.
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:31.680
Wow.
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:33.039
That's what I'm saying.
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:34.079
That's incredible.
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:35.279
That's what I'm saying.
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:38.560
I don't know if Living for the City, he might have been 30.
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.760
He might have been 30 writing songs like that, man.
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.239
By the way, is he in the rock and roll hall of fame?
01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:45.439
That's a good question.
01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:46.640
I just threw that out there.
01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:48.239
I don't know if they consider that rock and roll.
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:48.640
I think so.
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.520
And that's another delineation, but you know.
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.840
We could do a whole podcast on all the people that should be on that rock and roll hall of fame that aren't.
01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:00.720
You know, and there are people that have been inducted that are not necessarily rock and roll artists.
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:00.960
Yeah.
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:01.920
But they include that.
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.239
I think the rock and roll part is a loose term.
01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:04.479
Yeah.
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:09.840
Because I think there's just like there's no other Hall of Fame other than that one that's like, yeah.
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:11.840
We'll look that one up.
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:12.479
We'll look it up.
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:13.039
We'll get by.
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:14.479
So uh okay.
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.399
I'm wondering if we already covered this.
01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:18.239
I'm curious to hear your answer on this one.
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:18.640
Okay.
01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:24.960
What is what's your favorite place to travel for a weekend getaway or a week getaway?
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.840
Anywhere in the world, you just say, I want to go to this place and just do.
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:37.039
Yeah, I would have to go for more than a week, but one of my favorite cities on the planet is Prague in the Czech Republic.
01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:42.800
It's just it's romantic like Paris, but at a fraction of the budget.
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:43.279
Yeah.
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:57.520
And it's, you know, you can still stay at the Four Seasons or you know, high-end hotels, but the city, the lights across the bridge and the castle, and the food is good, and the people are welcoming, and there's a music scene there.
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.000
Um I like Prague.
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:01.039
I like it.
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:02.079
That's interesting.
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:03.119
Never been to Prague.
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:03.920
You gotta do it.
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:05.199
Our last word.
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:07.600
Just so you know, our last guest said Lake LA.
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:08.319
Yeah.
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:09.199
I mean, okay.
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:09.680
Good good.
01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:10.399
Good on them.
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:11.760
Good on them.
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:14.640
When Jester, he's not gonna be happy.
01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:16.079
I'm just kidding, Jester.
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:17.680
I'm never gonna be on the show again.
01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:18.640
Don't ask me.
01:43:19.199 --> 01:43:25.439
Um so if you, so you're in this uh luxurious, beautiful speakeasy here.
01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:26.239
Yes, I am.
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:38.479
If you were to have your own speakeasy, your own illustrious, very secretive speakeasy, what would your password to get in be?
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.279
Ooh, what could it be?
01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:46.399
Uh we all know Barts, but what would yours be?
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:48.399
Oh, I know what it would be.
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:49.039
Uh-oh.
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:50.319
Rosebud.
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:51.920
Oh my god.
01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:53.760
That's that's clever.
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.760
And then you drop a you have to drop a like a snow globe on something.
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.319
To drop a snow globe at the door so they know it broke.
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:01.920
I like that rosebud, man.
01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:06.159
Isn't that isn't that how that movie started and ended?
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:08.720
I believe Citizen Camp, right?
01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:13.359
It starts out with rosebud because he's like all messed up, and at the end it's rosebud.
01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:14.560
At the end it's rosebud.
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:15.199
Oh my god.
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.000
Well, now every if you ever do have the speakeasy.
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.920
We all know the that's cool.
01:44:22.079 --> 01:44:22.560
That's cool.
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:23.359
I'm good with that.
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:24.560
So bring your snow globes.
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:25.199
Okay, okay.
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:26.800
You you enjoying this part of the thing here?
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:28.960
Yeah, this doesn't hurt at all.
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:29.199
Yeah.
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:30.159
Alcohol helps.
01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:31.359
Indeed.
01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:32.479
Thanks, Buzz.
01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:33.600
Buzz.
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:34.159
We love you.
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.319
We have we're gonna give him a pay raise after this.
01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:39.199
I no, no, it's only a second job.
01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:39.840
No, that's true.
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:41.520
He doesn't get to ask for anything.
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:43.760
Okay, here we go.
01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:48.479
So this is a uh I mean this this one I'm really curious.
01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:54.399
Um, if you could instantly just master any skill, what would it be?
01:44:55.520 --> 01:45:00.800
Uh drop of a hat, just boom, I could just be an opera singer or whatever.
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:02.479
I would be doing something.
01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:08.239
If I was not in the music business, I think we've talked about this before, I would be doing something with airplanes.
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:10.640
I don't know if I would be a pilot.
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:11.279
Wow.
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:18.239
I don't know, but I am fascinated still how this big thing can fly.
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:31.359
This big thing can get in the air and go around the world and land, and you get out and it's different people, different language, different money, different food, it's different.
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:36.720
And you just got off of this thing that weighs tens of tons.
01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:46.399
Yeah, they I uh you know, me as a pilot, I as as I recall a Boeing a Boeing 747, which I think is still the one of the bigger airplanes in the world.
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:50.399
Now they have that double decker thing, but yeah, I remember it was a million pounds.
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.640
A million pounds is flying in the freaking air.
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:54.239
That's crazy.
01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:55.600
Fascinating.
01:45:55.760 --> 01:46:01.760
Yeah, I don't know what I would do, but I think I would be doing having something to do, excuse me, with airplanes.
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:02.640
That's cool, man.
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:03.359
Yeah.
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:07.680
I would just want to be the uh the light lantern dude that does.
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:08.720
Isn't that cool?
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:12.960
Yeah, because like you see the one the video of the one guy like doing like a whole dancing thing.
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:14.079
Like, yeah, I would do that.
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:15.359
I would be like stupid down there.
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:16.640
Like I wouldn't last that long.
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.600
Like somebody would be like, get this dude out of here, he's fired.
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:23.760
But I would have fun doing it for like, you know, the I guess two hours that they had allowed me to do.
01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:26.079
Can I just answer the question if I could do that?
01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:26.399
Yeah.
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.720
I would be Lamont Van Hook singing on stage in front of a million people.
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:36.800
Hanging out with Rod Stewart, hanging out with Rod Stewart, kicking soccer balls and that's great.
01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:44.960
Um something on your bucket list that you're determined to cross off.
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:46.079
Ooh.
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:52.239
You know, there are a lot of singers and players I would like to make music with.
01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:58.720
Um my dream gig, I've said it for years, and it's still true if you guys are listening.
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.359
I wanna I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:05.039
I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:05.760
Okay.
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:07.840
I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:08.640
You guys hear me?
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:08.880
Yeah.
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:11.840
I think he wants to tour the stones.
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.640
Isn't isn't Mick Jagger our next guest next uh next post?
01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:15.520
Next week, yeah.
01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:17.039
We could we could hit him up.
01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:17.439
I don't know.
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:18.159
I will be here.
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.760
If he gets us on the phone with Phil Collins, we'll hook him up.
01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:22.239
Okay.
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:24.800
Still waiting for that speaker phone phone call.
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:25.359
Okay.
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:26.319
Wow, man.
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:28.640
That's uh that's yeah, something on my butt.
01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:31.600
You know, I still love to travel when I'm not working.
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.239
I travel for work, but I still love to travel.
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.479
Something off of my bucket list, you know.
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:40.960
It seems like it's the stones, though.
01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:43.119
I want to work with the stones.
01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:43.760
I'm available.
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.319
You gotta learn the the pointy fingers.
01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:50.880
You go or pointy fingers you gotta learn in the in the in the behind the back chicken.
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:51.520
Yes, yes.
01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:53.279
I gotta do a big dagger shuffle.
01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:53.680
I got it.
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:55.359
All right, just call me for the gig, Mick.
01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:55.760
I got you.
01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:56.079
All right.
01:47:56.720 --> 01:47:56.960
I got you.
01:47:57.039 --> 01:48:00.079
Because he's gonna be watching and making sure that the finger pointing is happening.
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:00.399
Yes.
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:00.720
Yeah.
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:01.439
I'll be ready.
01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:02.720
We gotta start you up, buddy.
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:04.399
I'll gotta start me up.
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:06.399
You start me up, I never stop.
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:07.199
Come on.
01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:08.399
That's right.
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.640
Okay, we're getting, we're almost there, brother.
01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:11.439
You're doing great.
01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:12.159
Okay, good.
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:16.000
So now I'm gonna, because of who you are, I'm gonna have to qualify this.
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:19.600
So the the question is what's the best concert you've ever been to?
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:24.880
But I'm gonna say that you weren't performing at a performer, yeah.
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:26.640
Been to a lot of great shows.
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:29.359
Oh, I'm thinking like thousands.
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:33.600
The one that sticks out immediately, my first country show.
01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:37.680
You know, growing up, I didn't want toys and stuff, I didn't want clothes.
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.039
I wanted and concert tickets.
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:44.479
And my mother was really keenly locked into that.
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:50.159
Um so 19, I think it was 1984, I went to my first country concert.
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:53.520
The Juds were headlining, and Garth Brooks was opening.
01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:56.960
It's pretty far back when Garth was an opener.
01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:00.239
But I had so much fun at that show.
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:09.680
Me and my cousin Kelly went to that show and we had we had so much fun that the people that was at the Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, uh outdoor shit.
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:12.800
Uh we had so much fun that the people around us had a lot of fun.
01:49:13.279 --> 01:49:19.840
Because we were yeah, I don't go, I don't go to a show to sit still, I go to a show to participate.
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:20.239
Yeah.
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.039
Uh like I like to see people when I'm on stage performing.
01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:28.960
It's you know, if it's the right song, you can sit there and sit and enjoy yourself, and I can see that.
01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:34.079
But if we are laying it down, it needs to be up on your feet or arms in the air or something.
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:34.479
Yep.
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:36.159
So I can have fun too.
01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:39.279
So when I go to a show, I'm all I'm all in it.
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:39.520
Okay.
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:41.439
I'm all in it for the performers on stage.
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:42.640
I'm here to have a good time.
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:43.439
Yeah.
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:44.640
That's so you should be.
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:45.359
Exactly.
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:47.520
Last question jet from Justin.
01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:49.119
This is my favorite question.
01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:49.760
Oh my.
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:50.720
It is about this.
01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:51.840
This is his favorite question.
01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:52.319
Okay.
01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:56.960
Mine was multiple questions ago, but I get I get to ask his favorite question.
01:49:57.199 --> 01:49:57.520
Okay.
01:49:57.760 --> 01:49:58.640
Let's see.
01:49:58.880 --> 01:49:59.439
The best.
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:03.520
Piece of advice that you have ever received.
01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:04.720
That's easy.
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:13.920
My grandfather, I remember I was about to go to college and he used to come by the house and play uh play the piano.
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:15.520
Play my dad's piano.
01:50:16.399 --> 01:50:23.439
And I remember he had these long hairs, long gray hairs on the tops of his hands.
01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:27.760
And I would just go down in the studio and just watch him play.
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:34.239
And this particular day I was sitting on the piano bench next to him, just listening to him play, and we were talking a little bit.
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:38.720
And he told me, son, you're about to go away to school.
01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:45.119
And I want to advise you to be timely, is what he said.
01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:46.159
Be timely.
01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:49.600
What he meant was don't be late.
01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:53.359
Don't have people looking for you, wondering where you are.
01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:59.920
And then, you know, years later, I do break into the business where that is a gigantic no-no.
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:01.520
Late?
01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:03.439
The artist can be late.
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:05.199
Nobody else can be late.
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:09.039
And you gotta come to rehearsal rehearsed.
01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:14.399
You don't come to rehearsal to learn the music, you come to rehearsal to shape the music, to tweak the music.
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:20.800
But there are a lot of newbies and some old people like me that think they don't have to prepare.
01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.600
So yeah, my my grandfather telling me to be timely.
01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.479
I will never forget it, and I've taken it to heart.
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:40.079
And some of the veterans in the business have come to me after a gig and told me that I have a good reputation around time, around town of being on time and being prepared.
01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.439
And I can't ask for anything more than that.
01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:45.279
Because that is my that's my goal.
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.119
If you hire me for your gig, I don't want you to have to worry about what I'm supposed to do.
01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:49.439
Yeah.
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:52.239
I got you, I got you covered on what I'm supposed to do.
01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:52.479
Right.
01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:54.640
You can worry about something else.
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.319
That is my job.
01:51:57.039 --> 01:51:58.399
And that's how you keep a job.
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:03.600
You make yourself uh valuable to the artist by doing what you were hired to do and doing it well.
01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:04.000
Exactly.
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:04.880
And you will work.
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:13.119
But if you want to come in late and unprepared and entitled, it might be too late to replace you for this gig.
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:15.520
But you will not be called for the next one.
01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:19.600
And you know, I'm yeah, I'm grateful for a 40-plus year career.
01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:22.159
I must be doing something right most of the time.
01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:23.199
You know?
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:24.720
Yeah, I'm grateful.
01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:27.920
Yeah, but yeah, my grandfather telling me to be timely.
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:29.279
I'll never forget it.
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:37.039
And my grandmother on the same uh occasion after my senior ball where I drank too much, and I knew I think she knew I was gonna drink too much.
01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:40.479
So my grandmother called me at like eight o'clock in the morning the next day.
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:41.840
How you doing, son?
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:50.720
I was like, but I remember her telling me, trouble is a lot easier to get into than it is to get out of.
01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:51.920
That's good advice, too.
01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:54.720
I was like, whoa, never forgot it.
01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:55.359
Yeah.
01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:56.159
Yeah.
01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:57.520
So don't get in trouble.
01:52:57.680 --> 01:52:58.399
I like that.
01:52:58.560 --> 01:52:58.880
Yeah.
01:52:59.039 --> 01:53:02.399
Well, it doesn't help that Lamont was 15 minutes late to the show.
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:02.720
Okay.
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:04.079
Um anyway.
01:53:05.119 --> 01:53:06.640
That is not true.
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:08.239
That is not so.
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:09.520
15 minutes early.
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:10.000
Okay, my.
01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:11.600
Sorry, maybe I should have said that.
01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:16.239
My license plate on my first car that I bought outright said not one to be late.
01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:16.880
Really?
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:17.199
Yeah.
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:17.920
Wow, I'm not sure.
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:25.279
And I've been late, you know, very few times, but I am driven to distraction by being late.
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:31.119
I'm just, I need a to a cocktail to calm down if I show up late, because I'm taking a good place.
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:32.960
You can take Buzz with us with you.
01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:34.479
He'll make sure.
01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:35.840
Um, all right, Lamont.
01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:37.680
Uh this comes the point of the show.
01:53:37.760 --> 01:53:38.960
This is this is this is the end.
01:53:39.039 --> 01:53:39.520
This is it.
01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:42.000
This is this is we are we are a wrap.
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:43.600
Um just getting started, man.
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:44.640
I know, man.
01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:48.159
Um, so this this now we let me just say this too.
01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:50.399
We sc I said this on the last break.
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:52.399
We scratched the surface just barely.
01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:55.279
There's so much more to Lamont Van Hook.
01:53:55.760 --> 01:54:03.039
There's the look, I think everybody's gonna kind of get this at some point here as they listen to the show's brand new show.
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:03.359
Uh huh.
01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:14.800
Um, if you're on the show once, you are going to have to come back to the show again because we are going to go even deeper into your we are we're only allotted so much time.
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:15.279
Yes.
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:16.159
Did I get that?
01:54:16.399 --> 01:54:22.880
But we everybody just just be ready for having your time on here for multiple multiple sessions.
01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:25.119
As long as Buzz is here, I'm I'm good.
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:28.000
It's gonna, it's Buzz is here, I'm I'm good.
01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:28.399
Yeah.
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:31.279
We're we're we're investigating Buzz right now.
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:43.039
Um so this is your time uh to if there is anything you want to plug, if there's anyone you want to thank, if there's anyone you want to talk to, this is your moment, this is not ours.
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.479
We are going to be dead silent for you.
01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:48.319
Uh this is your moment.
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:53.279
Whatever you have on your mind, whatever you want to let the people know, this is your moment.
01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:54.079
Go ahead, man.
01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:56.479
Well, I am grateful for the opportunity.
01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.399
Thank you guys for inviting me.
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:04.000
I uh I am having a good time, and and like I said, this didn't hurt at all.
01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:08.880
Um I had a great songwriting session today, so I want to say hey to Jacob Miller.
01:55:09.039 --> 01:55:11.439
We're gonna finish this song uh Monday.
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:17.600
Um, and just thank you all, everybody that's listening to the record and leaving comments on my socials.
01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:20.079
I'm really learning the socials, you guys.
01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.039
I it's just it's like a full-time job.
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:28.399
Uh and I'm uh getting my feet wet, and I'm gonna post more, I promise.
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:37.439
But I really appreciate you know you coming up after a show and saying, hey, I heard your record, or I heard about your record, or I'm glad to see you on the road with this artist.
01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:39.279
I've seen you on the road with that artist.
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.039
I'm just uh grateful to be acknowledged.
01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:47.680
And uh we got more to do, everybody, so just uh stay with me.
01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.159
All right, that's how you do that.
01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:50.640
All right then.
01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:52.079
See, that wasn't scary at all.
01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:53.039
That wasn't scary at all.
01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:54.960
Uh Bart, any last words?
01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:59.359
Uh just been an absolute pleasure and honor to hang out with you tonight.
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:00.880
And uh, me too.
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:01.359
Yeah, man.
01:56:01.439 --> 01:56:02.800
Thank you so much for doing this, man.
01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:07.520
I think uh yeah, I think you just picked up a lot more fans and uh That's all good.
01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:08.399
Yeah, you're just a great guy.
01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:09.199
That's all lovely.
01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:10.159
That's all you man.
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:11.039
Love you back.
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:11.760
There it is.
01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:12.079
Yeah.
01:56:12.239 --> 01:56:12.960
All right, folks.
01:56:13.119 --> 01:56:17.920
That does it for episode two uh of Deep Diving in the Speakeasy.
01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:19.279
Uh join us next time.
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:22.319
Uh we'll follow us on our Instagram.
01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:26.560
Um we'll we also have a Facebook that's gonna be coming up live here shortly.
01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:33.680
Uh we will post all uh photos that we have from um from our show that we have for each time.
01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:40.079
Uh a couple little uh information snippets that we'll put out for you guys as well of who we're gonna have our next guest.
01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:48.560
Uh, you know, we'll have all that on the on the social, so please give us a follow and please tell your friends uh and family to give us a uh follow and a listen as well.
01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:50.239
And that is gonna do it.
01:56:50.399 --> 01:56:52.720
Thank you guys, and we'll see you on the next.
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Welcome to the Deep Diving in the Speakeasy podcast with your hosts, Justin Reno and Bart Avery.
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Hey, super excited to be back here in the uh Speakeasy.
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And uh this, of course, is uh still season one.
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This is episode two of Deep Diving in the Speakeasy in the top secret speakeasy that only a few of us know where it exists at.
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Very small few.
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Kind of kind of cool thing here, and it's uh with Justin and Bart.
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And before I introduce our amazing guest tonight, um just want to say that uh we start the show off asking cigar or no cigar.
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So this is Mr.
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Lamont Van Hook, who will give much further introduction, but cigar or no cigar tonight.
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Always, always a cigar.
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Justin, what do you think?
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Are you gonna do a cigar?
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Yeah, okay.
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All right, I think it'd be heresy if I if I didn't, I feel I just got one more thing to say here, and then I'll start lighting up mine, and you can kind of take over here.
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But um, so um oh, the other question we always have is um would you like an adult beverage?
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There it is.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah, I guess that's a yes.
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So we just want to thank I just this is a new addition to the podcast.
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So we have our bartender, Buzz, who just I'm I'm drinking a red wine.
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Thanks, Buzz.
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So Buzz is actually an interesting character.
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Um we're not gonna tell you a whole lot about him, but he's over here, he just stays really quiet.
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But he's a double lefty, and I've never met a double lefty in my life.
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And what that means is he's yeah, he literally has two left hands, right?
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It's really weird, man.
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I don't know how you do that, buddy.
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Okay, but uh yeah, thanks for the wine.
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Okay, so we're all served here by Buzz.
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I wonder how his how his golf game is.
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Double left-handed.
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I don't know how you know that's kind of a weird one, but apparently he's really good at opening bottles of wine with that uh the two left hands.
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So I'm lighting my cigar.
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So um, before I take my first puff, let's do a proper introduction to Mr.
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Lamont Van Hook.
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Um tell us a little bit about yourself, my friend.
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I um I was gonna be really silly.
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Let's let's start with that.
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We like we like silliness.
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We like silliness.
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It's the beauty of this, man.
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You literally received no guidance or any rules when you walked in and started to do this, and that's the beauty of this, is that you you can do legitimately whatever you want.
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Just go for it.
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If you if you want to do like an Irish jig while talking on here, you can.
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It's okay, and it's fine.
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I don't know if you're Irish or not.
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I am part Irish.
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Aren't we all?
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Actually, okay.
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And I actually Especially in St.
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Patrick's Day, right?
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Everybody's Irish, yeah.
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Gotta have a green.
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I actually uh researched getting an Irish passport.
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Um my great-grandmother was full Irish.
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Okay.
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And in my investigation, I found out that my mother was still eligible to apply, but that's as far as they would go back.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But yeah.
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Okay.
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Right on the on my Irish uh can phone.
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Yeah.
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Alrighty, then I liked it.
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I like it.
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So we'd like to go right to the right to the basics.
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So you grew up in the Oakland area, correct?
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That's where you were born?
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I did, in the East Bay.
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East Bay, okay.
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Um, we need it.
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We need a cut, we need a cutter for uh, I think we uh see Buzz.
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Hey Buzz.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't pre-cut.
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Buzz doesn't do Buzz doesn't do the cigars, he just does the drinks, but that's okay.
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Because he can't cut a cigar with two left hands.
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It's kind of weird.
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Okay, there it goes.
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We're gonna have to show Buzz how to get that.
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Yeah, no, we got we got the cigar thing.
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That's a major critical part of this whole uh podcast is to get the cigars going right.
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So anyway, you started uh you grew up in Oakland?
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I didn't know in the East Bay.
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Okay.
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I did, and I still love the East Bay.
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I was just home uh maybe three weeks ago, and you know, so many things are the same, but the traffic is worse than I remember it.
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You know, it's not quite as gnarly as LA traffic, but it is getting there.
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It's getting there, but uh yeah, I love the bay.
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Yeah, okay.
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So you um obviously we're gonna get into your incredible career, but um maybe just give us a little uh taste of your childhood growing up in the Bay Area and kind of you know what were your influences to get to you get you to where you are today.
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I was always around music.
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Uh my mom and some of my cousins were in a gospel six tech uh called the Spiritual S, and I was a rehearsal baby and I looked forward to going to rehearsals, and usually they would make the kids like go in one of the spare bedrooms and play or watch cartoons or something while the adults were working and rehearsing, but uh they figured out very early on that I liked being in the room.
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I liked being in the room where the music was being made.
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So uh, you know, grew up doing that and uh in the bands in in school and and grew up started playing in in church and playing clubs when I was, I think, 14.
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Um not by the book, because I was way underage.
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My uh cousin used to put me in one of his oversized coats and and take some mascara and draw a mustache on my face and tell me to play.
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I was playing drums at that time and tell me to play.
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Oh, you were playing drums?
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I didn't know.
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I was playing drums at that time.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Uh and tell me to just play with my head down because I was singing and playing drums.
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But uh Yeah, I wouldn't trade a moment of that for nothing in this world.
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It was good.
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And and and just so we without skipping ahead too much here, uh, for people that may just be listening to this podcast and wondering who the heck Lamont Van Hook is.
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Yes.
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Um yeah, it's singing is your life, I would say, and you have a lot of other interesting aspects in your life, but that's why we're kind of doing our deep dive here in your early ages of what got you into the whole music scene.
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So your your uh your folks or your your uh siblings got you uh were encouraging you, or yeah, that's good, man.
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My entire both sides of my family are very uh musical, and and that was my biggest training ground watching my parents and my cousins and my grandparents and my aunties and uncles sing and play their instruments.
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And just awestruck every time.
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Every time.
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Just awestruck and couldn't wait to grow up and be able to do that.
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Okay.
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Yeah, you know I I let me just say, you said something about a band, your first band.
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Did you I mean did you guys have a name?
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Um did you did you do a few shows together or we were playing clubs, and my cousin Bill Alams was the band leader, and I think the band was called the Sound Machine, I think.
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I was 14, and I'm not 14 anymore.
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That was a long time ago.
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Trying to remember, but I think the name of the band was The Sound Machine.
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We'll go with that, right?
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Yeah, and you came up with that name.
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No, I was glad to be able to do that.
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You can take credit for it.
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It's okay if you want to.
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Hey, all right, then fine.
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All right, this yeah, it was all my idea.
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Didn't didn't that didn't that name get used again down the road that maybe you could like have a lawsuit or something like that?
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Yeah, I I've I've heard of it, yes.
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Didn't Barry Gordy or somebody like that like kind of steal that from you?
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So now again, Justin, yeah, that was not my idea.
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I did not make that.
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All right.
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Good.
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That's on tape now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's great, dude.
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So you're in high school, you're uh getting good grades, I assume, or are you just kind of I was a decent student when I cared to be.
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Right.
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I was a decent student when I didn't care to be.
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I was you know, but I can't I yeah, I made I made good grades because my mother more than my dad was more uh uh adamant about keeping the grades up.
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Okay, and then yeah, did you did you kind of like at some point in your life just go like 100% this is what I'm gonna do.
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I'm gonna be a singer.
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Yes, and there's a story there.
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Let's hear it.
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That's what this is all about, brothers.
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There we go.
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Our first our first story of the of the episode.
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I can't wait.
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So my dad and my brother bonded, one of their bonding points was over sports, which was so not my thing.
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Uh, but I kind of not fake the funk, I kind of uh participated to kind of be able to hang out with them.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, my uh brother was really good at baseball and football and water skiing and snow skiing and just a real athlete.
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I wanted to play my music, play my records, and play my piano.
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Uh but I, eighth grade, I think it was, I went out for the basketball team and made the team.
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Wow.
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I don't even know what made me go out for the team, but I made the team.
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And what position did they give you?
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I was a forward.
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Forward, okay.
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Small, power?
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I don't know the differences.
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I mean, were you tall or were you were you shorter than you?
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I was average, average.
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So probably a small forward then.
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You're probably playing a three.
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Maybe.
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So uh the season is going on, and my uh stepmom is riding my dad's ass.
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You know, this this uh boy's inviting you to his games and you don't go to his games and you need to go to his games and da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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And this particular game, it might have been the next game after that tongue-lashing from my stepmommer, uh, I'm dribbling the ball down court, and I look up and see my dad waving at the top of the bleachers.
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And I'm like, oh man, my dad is here.
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It's cool, he came.
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And I didn't realize that I was about to stop and shoot.
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I was at the wrong end of the court.
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And the whole gym was screaming.
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I thought I was doing good.
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I was just dribbling down the anyway.
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That is the moment that I decided I'm gonna be.
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It was that moment's like, this is for the birds, man.
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I know what I can do.
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You didn't know what I can do.
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You didn't pick up on the fact that when anybody else around you at the other end of the court did not everybody else was around you.
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Nobody's guarding you, everybody's cheering for it.
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Other teams like, come on, look.
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Exactly.
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Isn't it correct me if I'm wrong, but if he shoots at who, they get they get the points?
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I don't know how that works in basketball.
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I've heard different things.
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I mean, you know it depends on what kind of league it is, it can, but yeah.
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Otherwise, they'll just they'll just call it as a so as a technical or something.
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Yeah, maybe so.
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Probably kick him out of the game.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, I didn't go yeah, I didn't even go back to practice after that.
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Dude, that's that's it.
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That was that was the end of your basketball correct.
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So that so did you realize when you're holding a microphone which end you're supposed to sing into, or is that kind of a good that was that was uh kind of second night job?
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I was a big ham.
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Okay, good.
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Okay, good okay.
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That was a big ham as a because I we I I just didn't want to see a trend happening here where it's like you don't know which which way to go, even with the wrong end of a fork.
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I think I got this part down, guys.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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He got the 11 part down.
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So you mentioned you so obviously you did you did uh you were doing drums, yes, doing piano, just did you dabble in any other uh instruments, or was those two your like main focus?
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Or my dad bought me what's called a chord organ.
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That was my first instrument.
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I think I was five or six years old.
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You would press a button with your left hand that would play a chord, a major or minor chord, and then you would play the melody in your left hand.
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And uh that was my first instrument.
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Then he bought me a set of drums, and I played drums up until maybe high school.
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I just got tired of setting them up and breaking them down and carry them to the car, carry them from the car.
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At church, there was always a piano already there, so all I had to do was show up.
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Yeah.
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I'm doing that.
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Yeah.
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I played my dad's tenor sacks in fourth grade for one year, but it was too big and too heavy.
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So uh piano and voice became and this was kind of in the high school era, right?
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High school, just high school that's when I started playing uh piano.
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Okay, but how much singing?
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Forever.
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Okay, but forever.
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At what at some point, maybe in the high school uh era of your life, um did did people start coming up to you and saying, like, dude, you got a gift.
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Because we all know you have a gift, but at some point I think, you know, just just to kind of go back a little bit on uh my early life of listening to music in the 60s, like Karen Carpenter used to just sit there and play the drums.
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I know she was a drummer.
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Yeah, she was a great drummer, but but it's like oh, and and she can sing.
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Yes, but at some point somebody just goes like no no no no more drums.
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Yes, did you have that moment?
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Like, like just freaking sing well and keyboards too, I know.
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Because we'll get into that with your first big break.
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Not so much.
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Uh no one made me choose, so I did it.
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And I think being able to sing and accompany yourself, that's a skill set that a lot of people don't have.
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Uh so it was always encouraged.
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Yeah, nobody made me choose, thankfully.
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Because I don't know what I would have chosen because I love them both.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't know what that would be.
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Okay, so let's um let's go ahead to Howard University.
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Yay!
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That's where I grew up, that's where I grew up.
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You know, not having to answer to anybody.
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You can stay out as late as you want, you can do whatever you want.
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My parents were on the other side of the country.
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Yeah, um, and I will say that, you know, I did some really dumb things as a as a kid.
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Sure.
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Uh thankfully my dumb stuff didn't cost me a lot, like it cost some of the other kids, um, which is a learning experience too.
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Um yeah, I'm grateful for my time in DC.
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However, at the end of my four years, I was out of there so fast.
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The snow in the winter and the absolute sticky in the spring and the summer, I needed to get back to California just for some normalcy.
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But you know, the people there, you know, some of my uh colleagues, my college mates, uh I'm very much in touch with, and I have two professors that are still living that I'm in touch with.
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Okay.
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Yeah, so I treasure my time in DC.
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Is so i is your time at Howard, is that where you kind of honed in on the musical aspect?
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Or was that where you really got in depth with it and started to figure out exactly what style of music you wanted to do?
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Or did you already have that idea like of what genre you wanted to be in early on anyway?
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I thought I had an idea.
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Okay, and you know, that at that young of an age, you know, you think you know everything, right?
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Sure.
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Not not only about you, about everything.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh and it's so interesting.
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I didn't get accepted uh to the music department uh as a result of my audition tape.
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I I did not know at that time Howard's uh the music department curriculum was uh very uh European based.
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Okay.
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Lots of classical music.
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The jazz uh program was very new.
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I think it started maybe 78, 79, and I got there in 81.
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So it was still very new, and that's where they could plug me in once I got there.
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Um but that's uh that's where I had to do music every day to catch up because I didn't I didn't take any formal lessons until I got to college.
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Right.
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So I was very much way behind the other kids.
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So I really had to buckle in.
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You're super green.
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And yeah, and you know, the ear was there, but I couldn't read any music, couldn't I read chord changes, but that's I had to do it every day just to compete.
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Yeah, you know, because you know, I was B R O C as I say, we were all broke, so I had to uh get scholarships and grants and a few loans to finish school, but I was out in four years and back in California because the snow is beautiful to look at, but I don't like being called Did you make any uh incredible relationships?
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There there were, correct me if I'm wrong, but there were quite a few very famous musicians, singers that went to Howard, right?
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Absolutely, like throw a couple names.
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Absolutely.
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Uh Angela Wimbush, uh Jesse Norman, uh Wayne Lindsey, uh uh Wallace Roney, um Roberta Flack.
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Roberta Flack and Donna Hatton.
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Oh my god.
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Um it's just uh uh Chadwick Bozeman, um not in the music department, but in the drama department.
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Just the the fine arts, college of fine arts at Howard is chock full of inspiration.
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And that was not lost on me while I was there.
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I really wanted to go there.
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One of my older cousins, Daryl, was in school uh there, and I wanted to go and get some of what uh Donnie and Roberta got.
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And I got to work with uh Donnie's uh vocal teacher and uh yeah, he remained a dear friend until he passed.
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It was just uh it was good.
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Yeah.
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It was good.
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Yeah, DC was very good to me.
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It was very good.
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So you came back to sunny, non-humid, non generally non-humid, snow snow California.
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Yes.
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And you were in your early 20s, I would assume.
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21 still.
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Yeah, 21 a couple weeks later.
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That's pretty yeah, 20.
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That's pretty young to graduate.
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Four years.
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My birthday is always in the summer, so gotcha.
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Yeah.
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I never got to have the school class party because my birthday was always right after we get out of school.
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But it's all good.
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I know from I know for me, and and I know for a lot of people, you get out of college and it's like now what?
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Yeah.
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Because you're like, okay, that's great.
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I just went to Howard University, I got a degree.
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Yeah, I I I can sing, I can now I can read music, I write music.
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Yeah.
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Now what do I do?
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Exactly.
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It was kind of terrifying, Bart.
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It was for me.
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You know, I figured out, okay, I know how to do school.
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Got it down.
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But now the uh dean of the College of Fine Arts at that time, Dr.
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Vader Butcher, she became a friend.
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And she found me up on the third floor in the music department and and kind of whispered, I have your degree in my office.
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Do you want to see it?
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And I was like, Yeah.
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So I followed her back down to her office, and she got this big box and rummaged through it a bit, and found my degree and opened it up and showed it to me.
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And when I went to grab it, she grabbed it back and said, Oh, it's mine until I give it to you on Saturday.
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This is still mine.
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I just wanted to wanted you to see it.
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But um, yeah, lots of great memories of our so you're you're back in California, back in Oakland.
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Uh I went back to San Jose.
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Okay, San Jose.
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Yeah.
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So what's your next move?
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You gotta make a you gotta make some money.
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Gotta make some money.
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I uh got a job as the minister of music at a church in San Jose.
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Okay, and that was great uh experience, just really running the department, and now this group of singers and players are gonna play and sing the music that I pick.
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And yeah, and it's for a church service, so it's gotta be inspirational.
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So that uh that time I uh was great.
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I worked there for 18 months and then I moved to LA.
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I started there in May or June of 85.
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Must have started in June of 85 because I graduated in 80 in May of 85.
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That's when I was born.
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Okay.
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June of 85.
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You're making me feel making me feel old, Justin.
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Uh, when's your birthday?
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June 7th.
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Ah, I'm June 18th.
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Hey.
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Gemini Power.
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Gemini.
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Uh we died twice.
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Oh, I'm gonna say that.
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That's pretty good.
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That's pretty good.
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Yeah, but I moved to LA in October of 86.
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And that's that's where there are bupportunities for musician singers, as opposed to, you know, and and even though the bay has been a hotbed of music forever, sure.
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All genres of music from Slying the Family Stone to the Grateful Dead to Confunct.
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The hate Ashbury area up there, all of that.
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Yeah, just great music.
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Um, but there were not the quality of opportunities, nor the quantity of opportunities in the bay, because I did not want to move to LA.
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:15.759
Yeah.
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I was just, I'd rather be at home, but had another uh more than a few friends who became my colleagues as well down here saying, if you want to do this, you gotta you gotta be down here.
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:27.759
Yeah.
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So that you can get the last minute call.
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Nobody's gonna fly you from the bay to be at a session in two hours.
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:33.599
Yeah, exactly.
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You know, they're gonna call somebody that lives here.
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So um, so I moved.
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And I did not starve.
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I was living with family, but I was uh it took a while for things to start moving.
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Right.
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Yeah, and I ended up moving back to the bay after three years four, maybe three years, and then once I got my first big gig, it kind of re after the That tour was over, it kind of required me to move to LA and that made it easier because people knew me from touring, so I could work.
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Yeah.
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.599
It wasn't kind of a complete unknown.
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And what was that gig that my first big gig was Rod Stewart?
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Okay, there it is.
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Okay.
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That's where we were.
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There it is.
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That's what we were waiting for.
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There's a payoff.
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That was the podcast is over.
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Okay.
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I mean, for the average person, you're you're you're working with Rod Stewart.
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Yeah.
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That's that's that's as good as it gets.
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But it gets way better.
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And I get that.
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It just gets different.
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It just keeps on getting gooder and gooder.
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That's what I like to say because uh that tour changed my life.
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That relationship changed my life.
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I had never seen that side of touring like that, you know, on a private plane.
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Only the Rich Carlton, only the four seasons, only the you know how how was Rod personally?
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:51.839
Wonderful.
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Wonderful.
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Because you always hear stories about like, you know, celebrities and even like musicians, and they're like, you know, snobs or all this stuff.
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:10.880
But I'm like, I don't ever remember ever hearing anything negative about Rod Stewart growing up, as far as like him being like he likes to hang out, he's absolutely trashy to people.
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Yeah, that's not how he gets down.
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I think I as I recall too, that was uh when did Maggie Mae come out?
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I think 71.
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:24.640
Okay, so he was he was already he was what he was still in his prime, but he was already just huge.
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I started in '93.
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He was huge.
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Yeah.
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We were playing stadiums.
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That was like it was crazy.
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So now we're up to 1993.
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So that's when you first got the gig.
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Yes.
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:41.599
Okay, now this the whole point of this this deep diving thing is you don't just walk up to Rod Stewart and say, hey man, I'm pretty good, man.
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Can you hire me?
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Yeah.
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How in the hell did you get that gig?
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Great story.
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Okay.
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Of course it is.
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So it is literally my 30th birthday, June 18, 1993.
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And I'm throwing myself a party.
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And people have started arriving uh for the party, you know, family and friends and colleagues, and we're having a great time.
00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.680
And the phone rings, and whoever answered the phone came and said, There's someone named Fred on the phone for you.
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:12.960
So you know you know.
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:14.000
Yeah, I know Fred, yeah.
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:14.319
Great friend.
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:15.599
One of my dearest friends, Fred.
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:20.000
So he's calling uh to say happy birthday.
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:25.920
He said, and I'm calling to see uh if you want to go on the road with Rod Stewart for a year.
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:42.079
He says, uh, I did a year with Rod and two of our other friends, uh Dorian Hawley and Daryl Fennessey, sang with Rod, and they also sang with Michael Jackson, and it happened for a couple of tours that when Michael was finished, Rod would start, and vice versa.
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:46.160
Well, this time in '93, both tours were leaving at the same time, so they had to choose.
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:52.880
And they chose Michael, which led uh left Fred to put together a section for Rod.
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.759
So he called uh in the middle of my birthday party and said, Rod, we don't have to audition.
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Rod told me to get whoever I want.
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We do have to sing for the musical director.
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.400
So that year my birthday was on a Friday.
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He said, Can you be in LA Monday?
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Um just spend a night for a couple days and we'll go meet the musical director and sing for him, and that'll be it.
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:18.720
I said, There's probably nearly a hundred people here, and for that gig, I could be in LA tonight.
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.039
Yeah.
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:20.640
I would leave right now.
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And uh he assured me I didn't have to do that, and I flew down Monday and met everybody, and we sang a little bit, and I was on that gig for almost eight years.
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.440
And I thought I would retire from that gig because we were very close.
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:45.680
You know, Rob would Rod was married to Rachel Hunter at the time, and they would invite me and my grandmother up to the house for dinner, cocktails, and just chill and hang and laugh and and do what we do.
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:47.599
So yeah, they were wonderful to me.
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.400
It was a great, it was a great time to be alive.
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:55.519
And also, correct me if I'm wrong, you got you were playing keyboards for for Rod also at the time.
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:56.000
I didn't know.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.160
Did you get that right off the bat or it was just singing?
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:06.480
No, it was just singing to start because he had the great uh Ian McLagan was playing Keys, who was in a band with Rod called The Small Faces.
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.519
Oh yeah, that was the early Rod Stewart, the Small Faces, yeah.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:15.920
So Ian was part of that band, and and we came into Rod's band at the same time.
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:16.480
Okay.
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:25.599
And uh so I think we did, you know, maybe two or three tours together, I can't remember.
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:36.400
And then uh Ian decided to produce pursue some other things, including writing a fabulous autobiography, uh, which left the organ chair open, and I was not even seeking it.
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:45.119
The uh we started rehearsals for the next tour, and the musical director said, Oh, I told Rod you play organ and you play well, so he's hired you to play organ now.
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.200
I was like, uh Okay.
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:48.799
What else?
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:49.599
What else?
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.640
Yeah, so I did that for a tour or two.
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.839
Yeah, yeah, and it was yeah, it was it was it was fun.
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:03.440
I do have to say though, I'd much rather be unencumbered and uh able to move around and shake my booty a little bit.
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.680
I don't like having to sit in one spot and just be still.
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.279
But if the uh paycheck is right, I will do exactly that.
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:12.720
I'm flexible that way.
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:19.200
So my question is is obviously we all know Rod had fantastic hair.
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.079
Absolutely.
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.799
That do was like iconic, right?
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:24.000
Still is, yeah.
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:32.720
Did did you have a wig of sorts that you would just put on every once in a while just to look like Rod just for a little bit?
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.799
Uh I feel like a lot of people had it and they don't want to admit it.
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.240
A lot of people had it.
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:38.720
Yeah.
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.880
And a lot of people would come to the shows and they're Rob.
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.920
Yes, men and women.
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.000
And some of them looked fabulous and you know, looked really great.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.079
Some of them looked like him, but yeah, that was the thing, but not so much for me.
00:27:53.119 --> 00:28:01.359
But I think at that time I did a couple tours being uh platinum blonde, which I'm thinking about revisiting because that was fun as well.
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:02.160
That's great.
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:12.319
Okay, and we're not doing our job if we don't ask for at least one crazy Rod Stewart on tour thing that's not gonna get any of us sued.
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:12.880
Oh, yeah.
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:24.559
That's just a fun thing that people would just go, holy cow, because we all know, you know, back in those more so back in the 70s and 80s, but even back in the 90s, or you know, there was a lot of crazy stuff going on.
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.160
Oh, yeah, life on tour, man.
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.599
Like there's there's some stuff.
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:28.880
There's some stuff.
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:34.319
Um, but I think I came in on the tail end of the sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.720
It was still happening, but it was kind of dying out.
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:44.000
Uh, and now, you know, I tell people, you know, invite uh friends to come to a show.
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:44.960
I want to come backstage.
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:53.279
I'm like, well, that's another issue, and I can work on that, but I'm telling you, you'd probably be bored as hell because now everybody's old.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:53.599
Yeah.
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:59.119
You know, instead of wanting to go and shut down the bar, people want to go back to their hotel room and read their book.
00:28:59.279 --> 00:28:59.519
Yeah.
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.240
Or talk to their wives or talk to their kids.
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.960
It's it's a lot more sedate.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:05.359
Yeah.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.000
Now, which I think is we want to go back and party with Rod.
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.119
No, he's drawing right now.
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:09.839
Yes.
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:11.200
Don't leave him alone.
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.559
He's a big uh train uh enthusiast.
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:15.839
So he trained.
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.720
Yeah, he does the model train thing big for him.
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:20.000
Okay, that's interesting.
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:25.920
Yeah, at that time he had a uh gigantic room uh in his home here in the LA area.
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:40.000
Uh with the, you know, like you see in the movies, with this whole city that he had hand painted all the buildings and painted the trains and painted the trees, and and he that was something that would bring him joy going and spend some time with his trains.
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.279
Uh but you're Rod Stewart in his trains.
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.519
Yeah.
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:44.720
Who would have thought?
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:52.400
Okay, well, I guess we're not gonna get the the big Oh, I was gonna say because you know, our listeners are sitting on the edge of their chairs right now.
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.960
We want to hear one crazy Rod Stewart story.
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.240
I don't know how crazy it is, but this is what came to mind initially.
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.200
He's a prankster.
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:00.079
Oh, there you go.
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.759
Perfect on the rotor.
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.759
Pranksters, and some of them are sedate and some of them are way over the line.
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:18.400
But anyway, um, we would be uh performing a show and during uh an instrumental solo or something that's long, we do something that's called a quick change, right?
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:23.279
Rob would go change his shirt and jacket, and we would go change our shirt and jacket.
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:30.799
And this particular night he was saying something along the lines of in soundcheck, you know, people are getting back from the quick change late.
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:35.200
You need to change your change what you need to change and get back on stage so we can finish the show.
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.559
So we're like, okay, it's cool, we'll be aware of that.
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.000
So during the time that the singers had to do a quick change, Rod went and did his quick change first.
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:51.680
And we come down, tear out of our jackets and shirts, put on the new shirt, and put get ready to put on the new jacket.
00:30:51.759 --> 00:31:04.960
We get one hand in, and he had tied a knot in the sleeve of all of the singers' jackets, so we couldn't we couldn't get our jackets on, and at first it was a panic until we figured out, oh, he was down here first.
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:12.240
And sure enough, when we all did get our sleeves untied and get on the stage, he had this big grin on his face, like, got you again.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.880
And I'm sure we got him back, but I just can't remember how.
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:15.920
No, that's a good one, man.
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:22.559
What would have been great is if you just actually went out there with the tied and we're like, yeah, this is what you wanted, and this is what you get.
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:24.000
And that would have been game.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:25.440
And he would have laughed till he couldn't.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.240
Because that's his show.
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:26.559
Yes.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.200
That you have now taken his prank onto stage with.
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.400
That would have been good.
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.960
That would have been good because he was always up for fun.
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:33.920
He's always up for fun.
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:35.519
Yeah, still.
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:45.200
So we're gonna we're we're not quite at the end yet, but we're but what we want to do is um kind of um we're gonna segue into the next part of your musical career.
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.480
So let's just let's just kind of wind it up then.
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.599
At some point, now when you finished uh with Rod, that was it.
00:31:53.759 --> 00:32:00.240
You never came back with Rod, it was kind of that was it type thing, or uh you went on to bigger and better things.
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.279
Uh I can't remember.
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.440
You've told you know, I just for uh everybody out there listening, I I've known Lamont now for I think quote well, 20 years.
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:08.720
Probably close to 20 years.
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:10.400
Maybe about 31 minutes.
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:11.279
Yeah, you've about 31 minutes.
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:12.799
About 31 minutes I've known Lamont.
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:13.039
Yeah.
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:20.880
But no, I but I've heard some of these stories, but I I'm never really clear whether you I know that relationship ended amicably, is did I say that word right?
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:26.880
And uh I just think you went on to to things that you were amazing, which we'll get into in the next segment.
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.480
But that was kind of at some point.
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.920
How long were you with Rod then?
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:30.880
Almost eight years.
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:31.599
That's a long time.
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.079
That's a long time.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:32.640
That's a long time.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:33.519
It's almost a decade.
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:33.839
Yeah.
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.759
Did you did you go in the studio and record with him too?
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.400
Oh yeah.
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.359
So you're eligible for getting platinum or gold records and stuff for that?
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.599
Because I know you have a you have so we'll talk about that too.
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.279
I think I have two plaques for Rod.
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:54.799
Unplugged, which I did to tour, and then the next record was called Spanner in the Works, and I got a plaque for that.
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.759
And I think that's it for Rod.
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.359
Did you one more thing about uh doing what you do?
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:11.119
Um, you know, you're you know, you're you're singing these songs and you're singing them the way that they want them to be sung, but sometimes do you just sit there and say, hey, let me just try this.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.839
What do you think?
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:12.640
Especially in the street.
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:13.359
Does that ever happen?
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:14.880
Especially in a studio in a studio.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:15.359
Yeah.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:30.880
Sometimes live, because the live performance, some artists like the live performance to be exactly like their record, and some artists like it to have a little extra flavor, something a little different, but still something that you're not hearing every day on the album.
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:31.440
Exactly.
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:33.920
Otherwise, they say, you know, you can stay home and listen to the record.
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:34.240
Yeah.
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:49.039
You know, so when you come to a show, they've some artists want to do a little, have a little difference, but some artists want it exactly like the record, and that's it, and that's all like this note could be run on a little bit longer or sometimes or sometimes not.
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:55.039
Yeah, you know, and it's usually cool unless they have to keep asking you, you know, can we just have it like the record?
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.960
I just what you sang was beautiful, but I really want yeah the record.
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:09.440
I to be honest with you, as a as a I've gone to a lot of concerts in my life, and when I see a band like Rod Stewart, I've seen Ron Stewart, and it's like you kind of want to hear the song the way you remember the song.
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.320
Yes, you don't want to hear all kinds of weird stuff going on.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.000
Yeah, but it's very true.
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.119
But a little spice is it's uh it depends on the artist.
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.239
Because most of the you you really do want it to be familiar.
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.840
You don't want to also kind of depends on the show, too, really.
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:26.960
Or even just the location, too.
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:32.239
Like maybe you want to do something a little bit more magical and special if you're playing Madison Square Garden.
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:32.639
Yes.
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.519
Maybe you want to do something a little bit special if you're playing like we're we've got Coachella going on.
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:45.599
Like you want something a little bit special for those, but then keep it keep it the same throughout for you know the diehard longtime listeners.
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.599
Yeah, you know, you got the your your last 30 minutes are nothing but the big hits.
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:52.000
Yeah.
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.960
The last that just drive them crazy and send them home.
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:55.519
Yeah.
00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.079
Speaking of that, what was always the the you you guys would always do an encore?
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:01.280
Oh yeah, with Ryan.
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:02.960
What would always be the last song?
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.199
Oh, that didn't stay the same as it would bounce around the same.
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:07.519
Yeah.
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:08.000
Yeah.
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.599
Because you you don't want to do like the big hit right off the bat.
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.280
You want to save it till the end, right?
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.079
Yeah.
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:20.480
And you know, if you're an artist like that, and some of the others I've been fortunate to work with, they have so many to choose from.
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:21.039
Yeah.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:21.519
You know.
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.199
What what was your guy?
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:30.079
So I know a lot of a lot of artists and mainly bands though, they'll have what's called their road song.
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:30.559
Uh-huh.
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.840
Did you guys have a road song that like had to be played no matter what?
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.320
That wasn't a well-known song.
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:45.519
It wasn't a mainstream top billboard 100 hit, but it was one that was like, we really love the song, we really enjoy playing it.
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:51.119
And even though maybe not everybody's gonna know the words, this is our road song, and we're gonna play it at every show no matter what.
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:56.000
I think there were a lot of songs that had to be played since we're still talking about Rod.
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.280
There were, you know, he could not do a show without singing Tonight's Tonight.
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.320
He could not do a show without singing Do You Think I'm Sexy.
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.119
Or Maggie May.
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.079
Or Maggie May.
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.400
It just is not gonna happen.
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.519
It's just not gonna happen.
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:08.239
Forever Young.
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.480
It's gotta be But there were songs that were big in the UK that were not as big here.
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:21.760
Songs like uh I Am Sailing, songs like The Killing of Georgie, uh, songs like Young Turks.
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.039
Um that was my first exposure of traveling around the planet.
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:34.079
And then these artists want to do the songs in Asia that were big in Asia, but they may not be big in South America.
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.480
There's another set of big songs, right?
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:43.119
But uh in the midst of those, the the core songs, um, like the ones we were talking about, yeah, yeah.
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.360
Uh Phil Collins cannot do a show and not sing in the air tonight.
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:48.400
It's just never gonna happen.
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.199
It'd be a crime.
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.239
It would be a crime.
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.679
Do you think at some point in this podcast we're gonna talk maybe about Mr.
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.719
Phil Collins a little bit?
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:55.599
Yes, because he's just a good thing.
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.119
Yes, because he just got a big, beautiful Prezi.
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.320
Well, you're gonna get your wish then, because we're gonna talk about them on our next segment here coming up after the break.
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It's such a prestigious sounding name, too.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:19.519
I was just a cool ass name, Lamont Van Hoek, starring in his latest role.
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.119
Like it just sounds cool.
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.079
I want to keep it.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.920
It's it's like it's like uh it's like uh and that's your real name.
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:27.119
That is my real name.
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:28.480
People call you that.
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.119
And I have been asked, would I consider changing my name?
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.239
No, no, my beach.
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:33.440
Yeah.
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:34.800
Your name is a lot.
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.679
I was like, it's a mouthful, yes, but it's my name.
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And I'm keeping it.
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And now with the sophisticated sounds, the Le Mons van.
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.559
Yeah, everybody learn how to say it as soon as I have a hit record.
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:47.760
It'll be just fine.
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.119
It's a mouthful now.
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.000
Once you have the first hit record, everybody will learn your name.
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:52.800
I love it.
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:53.280
Yeah.
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:54.239
I love it.
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:02.320
Alright, so we were uh we were talking about your time with Rod, uh the Rod man, Mr.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.440
Rod Stewart.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:04.320
Great days.
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.239
Great days, great times, great tours, yeah, uh, great years.
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:16.159
He was not the only one uh that you had the privilege of performing with.
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:37.119
Uh anybody who can work a phone or a laptop or any type of internet uh can look up your name and see the plethora of top female and male performers uh in the past got I would you say like 50, 60, 70 years?
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.679
Like there's a lot of there's a lot of names that are on this list that you have performed with.
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.320
Oh yeah.
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:50.320
Uh why don't you go ahead and enlighten our listeners uh with your with your time after Rod?
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.960
It's been a good ride.
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.159
I call myself a little black boy from Oakland.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.239
It's been a good ride.
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:04.239
Uh as far as touring, when the Rod days were over, I got to gig with Dinah Ross.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.320
I did that legend.
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:08.960
And she was special to me.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.199
I knew some of Rod's big songs.
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:19.119
I knew Sexy, and I knew Tonight's the Night, and I knew a couple of others, but a lot of his music for the tour, I had to learn.
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:26.239
I had to learn very little Dinah Ross music because it was big in my house, and I knew those songs.
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:47.920
Um and I toured with her off and on for like 12 years because around the time I got her gig, like 2000, I think I might have started with Diana in 2000, and I started with Phil Collins in 2001.
00:40:48.480 --> 00:41:03.519
And and there was some time where he would be working and she would not, or he would not be working and she would, so I could go back and forth uh between both gigs, but those two kind of happened around the same time.
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:12.159
Let me stop for a second again, because I just like I was curious how you got the Rod Stewart gig, you know, and it was your good friend that uh set that up.
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:12.559
Yeah.
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.039
So like your next big gig is Diana Ross.
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.960
So once again, you don't just call up Diana Ross and go, hey, everyone sing for you.
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.679
How did that how did that one fall into your lap?
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.960
Um part of it was Fred again.
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:25.920
Fred again.
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:30.320
I have followed his lead for so long in my life.
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.880
Like, I didn't realize that you could buy a house being a backing singer.
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.039
And I watched Fred buy a house.
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.400
And I was like, oh my god, I could have a house.
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.599
Uh he drove a Honda, so I bought a Honda.
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.239
Um just stuff like that.
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.719
And we've been on the not the same color.
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.920
No, not the same color, but and years later.
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.679
But I'm I watched this cat because he's just a successful human being.
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.159
He's I met him, I met him several times.
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:00.639
Yeah.
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:01.679
Cool, cool.
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.639
Just a great guy.
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.840
Talented singer.
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:04.239
Yeah.
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:05.760
Songwriter, all of it.
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:06.159
Yep.
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:06.800
All of it.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:21.440
But I'm trying, I'm struggling to remember something with getting me in the room with Diana, but there was also another singer out of New York by the name of Fonzie Thornton, who was big in Luther Vandross's camp.
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.480
They were dear friends, that called me about Diana as well.
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.639
So I don't know who called me first, but I ended up being on the gig for a while off and on.
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.559
And uh yeah, yeah, she was just huge in my house.
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.199
So she's, you know, royalty as far as I'm concerned.
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:43.119
And it was just such a pleasure, such a pleasure for uh someone to uh hire you for their tour.
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:50.159
I liken that to my brother being picked, you know, for the street uh football game or the street softball game or something.
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.719
I feel like when somebody calls me to do their tour, I'm I'm being picked for the team.
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:56.239
And it's a good feeling.
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:58.320
You were the number one overall draft pick.
00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:59.039
How about that?
00:42:59.119 --> 00:42:59.519
Yeah.
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.679
Or you know, not even, man.
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.559
I've been a part of some doozy bands.
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.599
And I can't say one is my favorite uh over the over another.
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:19.920
I I will say I've had the pleasure of being on stage with some great players and singers that require you to bring your A game.
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.519
Yeah, or you'll just be left behind.
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:21.840
Yeah.
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.400
But you don't step on the stage phoning it in because it's just not that kind of gig.
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.280
Oh, for sure.
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.880
Uh so you know, yeah, that's that's how I came in.
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:39.280
If you're gonna be on this stage, you better be able to play your instrument or sing, uh, or you're gonna look, you know, like a numbskull because everybody else up here is laying it down.
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:47.440
Um Dana Ross, and then quickly to uh Phil Collins.
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:48.880
And same thing, you know.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.599
Now you've got I I would call it street cred, like no, this is this guy knows what he's doing.
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.079
I hope so after 40 plus years.
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:56.320
Yeah.
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.599
But even back in those days, you know, you're you're singing with Rod St.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.880
Stewart playing his keyboards for seven years.
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.599
And it's not like, oh, is this guy can this guy handle the the gig, you know?
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.119
Oh my god, of course he can.
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:09.840
Yeah.
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.719
You get that in in that kind of experience, then you start getting those other kind of calls.
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.039
Uh you know.
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:18.880
First time I worked with Sting.
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:22.320
It's like Sting, you work with Sting?
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:22.880
I didn't know.
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:25.840
Really, really nice.
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:32.159
But I'm saying the the calls that you get when people of that stature see you working with their friends.
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:34.480
You know, yeah, can I get his number from you?
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.880
Because I need a so-and-so and so and so.
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:44.559
So uh it's uh you know, until things get rolling, it's it's you're starving.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:52.000
But once things do get rolling, it's it's like you know, you you got you're getting too many calls, you gotta start farming out work because you know only one fella.
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.480
So you had a you had a background scene for Steam?
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:55.119
Yeah.
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.079
And like and like some of the some of the lyrics, like you understood?
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:01.760
Because I and I asked this.
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.800
I asked this because like you know the song Brand New Day?
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:17.840
Yeah, you could you could play that song right now in front of me, and I couldn't tell you the words other than Brand New Day.
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:19.840
You only know those three words.
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:20.320
Yes.
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.960
And I know Stevie played the played the harmonica on that stuff, but it's so funky.
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:26.400
It's such a great song.
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.320
But I mean he's a great, he's a great like starwriter, he's a great performer.
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.800
Yes, but it's like sting just anunciation, just a little bit.
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.840
Everyone, I want to sing along with you, but I can't, and this is all that's all I can get out.
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:40.880
That's so yeah.
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:42.800
By the way, Justin, we didn't know you could sing, man.
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:44.159
Only sting.
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.199
Only sting gibberish.
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.840
Only sting gibberish is my only vocal talent.
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.679
So I did uh a sting gig.
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.480
I did the I worked with him the first time he did a Disney movie called The Emperor's New Group.
00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:58.800
Yep.
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:03.519
After Phil did the Tarzan or the Brother Bear, I think.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:15.599
Um and we did some TV and we did the uh we did the tonight show and we did a couple of uh live concert things, but I did those promos with the Perry sisters.
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.000
We were all a part of the choir for that Sting.
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.760
Uh we love the Perry Sisters, and I know they're gonna be listening to this podcast.
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:22.559
We love you.
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:23.280
Yes, we do.
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:24.159
Girls, yes.
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:26.639
That's how we met you, by the way.
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:27.199
Exactly.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:28.480
Exactly, Bart.
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.360
Uh yeah, but Sting is the Sting is the bomb.
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.760
Sting is I've just been so fortunate.
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:41.440
Uh, you know, there are very few, and I'm not gonna call any names, but out of 40 years, there may be two people that I would choose not to work with again.
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:42.000
Oh boy.
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.719
We're not gonna ask.
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:43.760
It's a small list.
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:44.480
It's a small list.
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:45.360
It's a small list.
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.840
It's been good because it's I've been pretty busy over the last few decades.
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.960
And for the most part, it's been absolutely wonderful.
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.440
Ever since I met you, you're you're always working.
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:56.159
Thank the Lord.
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:57.599
You know, every once in a while.
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:03.440
I remember one time you went for your birthday to Maui, and I think you were off the chart there for a couple weeks or so.
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.280
But but that was after doing a Diana Ross concert, I believe, in Maui.
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:07.599
Yeah.
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.840
And then you just finally did a little decompression.
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:15.920
The timing just worked out where I could stay for a week or so, and and you know, got a great rate on the hotel through the promoter.
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.119
And you know, I I um travel a lot for work.
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:21.440
Yeah.
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.559
So when I get to go on a bona fide vacation, I'm very easy to locate.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:33.039
Yeah, I don't need to go sightseeing, I need to be on the beach, under the umbrella, on the lounge, drinking and smoking my cigar.
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:34.719
I'm gonna be right here all day.
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:41.360
I don't need to go into town and I get to do that as part of my job when I'm in Phoenix or Tokyo.
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:41.599
Right.
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:46.800
I can go out shopping and sightseeing them, but when I'm on my time, I'm very easy to locate.
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.440
I call my when I go to Hawaii doing nothing.
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:50.239
Exactly.
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:51.599
And a whole bunch of nothing.
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.320
Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.800
That's why that's that's me on vacation.
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.360
I want to be in one spot all day.
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:00.559
All day.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.360
Yeah, man.
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:13.119
So of all so you've you've had this wide range of of artists, and they all have a very different style of you know, genre of music.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.079
You know, you've got your Diana Ross's and Stings and Rod Stewart's and everything.
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:27.599
It just just the I mean there's so many more on the list um uh of performers that you've had the had the opportunity to work with.
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:38.880
Which which musical style would you say and it could be like earlier on, it could be it could be now, but which one resonates with you the most?
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.079
Like which one which one is like this this one's in my heart.
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:48.880
Like this is this is this is the one that exudes who I am.
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.320
I couldn't pick Justin.
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.440
You know, once you once you get in the mix of an artist, that becomes your focus.
00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:57.920
Sure.
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:02.480
And that becomes it becomes your obligation to do, you know, do your best on the gig.
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.559
Um and that's what you're focused on for that time.
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:17.920
Um I'd learn I've learned so much from the players and singers in every organization, from the crew guys and girls, just how to how to be on the road.
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:29.679
Um uh Rod's former uh production manager, who is still a dear friend of mine, he taught me how to uh funk out my bunk on the bus with some really high-end linen.
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.079
Okay.
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.320
So it feels like your bed at home, because we're gonna be on the road for six months.
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:34.639
Yeah.
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.519
So your bed is on this bus and it needs to feel like your bed at home.
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.159
So you can get in the bed after show and go to sleep.
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:43.599
Just things like that.
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.280
And how to, you know, you're walking around in Tokyo.
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.440
I'm a black man, I stand out.
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.519
So you gotta keep your game face on when it's uh appropriate.
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.920
You know, you don't want to look like you're a fish out of water, but you obviously are.
00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:58.400
Yeah.
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.800
Uh, but you know, you learn things like that uh from the crew guys and girls.
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.360
Just I've been so fortunate I can't say one or the other.
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.840
Because during the at the time I'm working with them, this is my world right now.
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:17.119
And uh yeah, you just want to have fun and uh go around the world, man.
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:27.280
And it's cool you brought up the you know the crews of these of these of these shows and tours because I I I I I have a friend who who used to do that stuff.
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:42.480
And and you would have this whole conversation about like, yeah, you know, the performers, they go up there, they do their thing, they're up there for, you know, two hours and then they're and then they're gone, and then it's it's like nothing.
00:50:42.639 --> 00:51:01.280
But it's it's the crews that put these shows up, putting them up, absolutely, tearing them down, do it again tomorrow, do it again the next day, yes, and and he's like, I'm not saying that I'm taking anything away from you know the performer that I work with because they're still doing their thing, they're still up there sweating underneath all the lights and everything.
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.880
Yeah, but the crew without them that show does not happen.
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:05.599
That's the truth.
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:13.679
Like it is it's and a crew is uh road crews, studio crews, movie crews are widely underappreciated.
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.199
The production doesn't happen without them.
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:15.920
Exactly.
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:16.800
It does not happen.
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.719
Yeah, and and it's a sorry production with the sorry crew.
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.440
Yeah, it's a sorry production with a sorry band.
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.360
Yeah, and and those things happen.
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:25.840
Yeah.
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.599
Uh no, but I love my I I ride the bus with the crew.
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.599
I go out, get off of the band bus and let's go.
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:32.960
I'm gonna hang with the crew and we'll stay up.
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:34.079
Let me know.
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.280
Yeah, the crew is like the coolest people you could ever meet.
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:38.000
Exactly.
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:38.639
Exactly.
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.239
Yeah, and the crew guys and girls still party.
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:48.159
The band guys and girls are kind of sedate these days for the most part, but you know, in the circles that I run.
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.360
Yeah, but the crew girls are.
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.039
Most people are reticent nowadays to just kind of like cut loose.
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:53.760
Yeah.
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.559
And we need to bring them to the speakeasy, and then maybe they'll like just be a little bit more content.
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.119
But then we'd have to tell them where it is, and we don't want to do that.
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.360
Do we want to no, we'll just blindfolds.
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:04.400
No, we'll just blindfold them.
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.400
Oh, yeah, that you blindfold them, blindfold them out.
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:06.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:07.840
We had to blindfold them out.
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:16.320
So so um, so a lot of a lot of uh traveling with Diana Ross, I know, and you you went back and forth a couple times with her.
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:16.800
Yeah.
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:18.320
And then same thing with Phil.
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.920
You had you had a big tour with Phil, you took a big break, and then you went on and did another one.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:22.159
Yeah.
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.079
Maybe two or three, or I can't remember.
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.400
I think we did four tours with Phil.
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.119
Four from 2001 to 2019.
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:30.159
Yeah, four with Phil.
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:31.920
I think I did, yeah.
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.559
Yeah, I was building around the world.
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:40.639
I gotta call him because he just, Uncle Phil, if you're listening, congratulations on being inducted into the rock and roll.
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.920
Oh, yeah, that's yeah, you told me that's that it's about time.
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:45.280
It's about time.
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.280
I'm sorry, I'm just gonna use the word stupid.
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.679
There's some people that should be in that rock and roll hall thing.
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.760
And Phil Collins is 100% one of them.
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.079
Well, Phil, if you are listening and you want us to deep dive into your life, well, we have a spot open.
00:52:58.400 --> 00:52:59.199
He just said he might call him.
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.239
Maybe we can get him to call him a little bit.
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:01.519
You want to just be in the room when he calls him?
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:02.880
Yeah, you know, I could do a.
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:04.239
Can you put him on speaker for us?
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.760
Just we have a quick question for him.
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.800
You know, I think I could do a half-assed British accent imitation of Phil and pretend like No, I'm not gonna try it right now.
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.639
I'll have to practice that one.
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.119
No, you don't get to practice every voice.
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.679
But I am so happy for him.
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.599
He's he's he's in with Genesis in the circle.
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.800
Finally, yes, but for him as a solo artist, it's it just happened a couple days ago.
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.559
And and actually, I'd I'd have to look this up.
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:38.719
Maybe I don't know if you know this or not, Lamont, but also Peter Gabriel, is he in the rock and roll hall famous Peter Gabriel?
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:39.519
That's a good question.
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.360
I don't think Gabriel is.
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:42.559
I don't think Gabriel is.
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:42.960
Really?
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:43.920
No, I don't think so.
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:44.880
That's crazy, too.
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:46.480
I can get our fact checkers to find out.
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:46.719
Yeah.
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.639
Well, hey Buzz, what are you doing over there, buddy?
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:49.519
He's opening.
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.760
Oh, he's making he's making your next uh drink for you.
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:52.639
Bring it up.
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.079
I ain't scared of you, Buzz.
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:55.280
That's all he focuses on.
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:56.880
Buzz just makes his drinks, man.
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.880
He's just moving around and he's gonna look it up right now.
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.400
But I I, you know, yeah, God bless Phil Phil Collins.
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.639
I uh, you know, I've seen him um gosh, did I only see him that one time with you?
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:17.360
I think I want to see him, but no, Phil Collins, and the story too that blows my mind is when Genesis broke up, and that could have just been the end of Phil Collins.
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.960
That could have been the end of it right there.
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:24.079
Because Peter Gabriel, and God bless him, you know, a guy's incredibly talented, he just walks away from Genesis.
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:24.320
Yeah.
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.800
So here's all these guys going like, did you find it?
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:27.440
I found it.
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:33.760
Uh Peter Gabriel was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame uh in 2014 as a solo artist.
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.079
Right.
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:34.320
Okay.
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.159
But but okay, that just proves my point.
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:40.480
It's like, okay, they were both great in Genesis.
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.719
They got in the rock and roll hall famous Genesis.
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:48.159
And then Peter Gabriel gets it, and then you know, a decade plus later, oh hey, but what about Phil Collins?
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:48.639
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:53.360
Okay, so 2014 was still not a good enough year.
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.960
That should have been done way before.
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:55.760
Way earlier.
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:57.119
Correct, correct, correct, correct.
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:57.679
I agree.
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:06.800
But um, yeah, but but um just just real finishing up real quick, and and and you know the story too because you've worked with Phil Collins.
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.639
The guy's got a voice, it's unbelievable.
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:09.039
Indeed.
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:19.119
And so they were auditioning people to fill in for Peter Gabriel, and um, and I think I got the story half-ass right, but it's like he goes like raises his hand like, what, Phil?
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:20.880
Um, how about me?
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:22.079
Yeah, right.
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.480
I heard something about him saying, I'll take a crack at it.
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:26.079
I'll take a crack at it.
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:30.960
It's like yeah, he made Genesis huger.
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:33.679
And then is that a word?
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.840
And then he just said it.
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:41.519
And then and then Phil Collins just does his own thing, and of course he, God, how many hits did Phil Collins have?
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:55.199
And to his credit, is that's one of the few times uh that I'm aware of, and you guys think usually when an artist goes solo, they leave the band that brought them, they jump off the horse that bought them.
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.119
Phil and Genesis, they didn't do that.
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.199
A bunch of those guys did solo projects, but they never quit the band.
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.519
And I thought that was just wise.
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:05.280
Yeah, it's just wise.
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:13.760
And another uh tidbit uh I've heard about Genesis is they all equally on all of the songs.
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:14.239
That's nice.
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:22.960
Even if you bring in a song for the Genesis record, if it's gonna be on this record, we all split it evenly, so there's no big eyes and little us.
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.119
There's just right, right.
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.079
And I think that's how they got that longevity, man.
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:28.639
Yeah, man.
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:29.679
You know, that's how you do it.
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.079
Yeah, these guys have been together for 50, 50 years.
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:32.559
Yeah.
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.880
You know, that that's no small thing.
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.039
Whitney Whitney didn't get 50 years.
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.599
Uh Prince might have got I don't know if Prince got 50 years.
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.639
50 years is a long time to be in this game.
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.280
Yeah.
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:45.519
Yeah.
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:46.000
Yeah.
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:52.320
People like Diana Ross, people like Phil Collins, they are uh due some respect for that.
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.920
Um so so throw in some other, give us some other names of of people that you've performed with.
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.400
This is your moment to name drop, man, and everybody goes out.
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.039
Oh, let me let me let me throw one out there real quick.
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:03.920
Throw it in.
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.199
So so um, you know, he calls uh Mr.
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:08.000
Van Hook.
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:10.000
That's his real name.
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:10.320
Mr.
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:11.119
Van Hooker.
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.599
He calls me up one day, and it's like four o'clock in the afternoon.
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.360
He goes, hey, what are you and Sandra doing tonight?
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.840
I go, um, I don't know.
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:18.239
Why?
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.119
He goes, Huh, you want to go down and see a concert at the Hollywood Bowl?
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.280
I'm like, um, what?
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:24.239
What is it?
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:31.039
And he goes, Well, I'm not gonna tell you, but I'm gonna be there, and if you want to go, I'll have two tickets waiting for you at Will Call.
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.719
And of course, okay.
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.639
Go down there, opening act, Stevie Wonder, Mr.
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:37.760
Banhook.
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:40.719
Sorry, I had to cough there.
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.119
We don't we don't have a cough button, we gotta have a cough button.
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:44.480
Anyway, yeah, no, I'll insist.
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.440
And I I'm just sitting there, I'm just sitting there looking at my buddy.
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.880
I'm like, and people are just going like, this is frickin' unbelievable.
00:57:53.599 --> 00:58:01.440
And the cool part about it was it was like a ch it was um it was like some sort of thing, I forget what it was, a cherry fundraiser or something.
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.480
And they had they had like, I remember they had Lady Gaga and all these other people.
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:11.760
So then, yeah, so then Lamont comes back up into the uh uh where we're sitting there at the Hollywood Bowl, and he's like, What do you think?
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:13.840
We're like unbelievable.
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:22.639
Um we got a couple minutes left in the segment, so now let's let's kind of go towards the where you're at right now with Lyle Love It.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.280
I'm in such a beautiful place.
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.440
It's so interesting, guys.
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:39.840
Uh as I grow older and wiser and as I make new decisions for my life, it is amazing to see how things fall in line.
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:53.280
So uh this is 2026, I think 2018-ish, I decided I wanted to be a country artist and really didn't understand what that meant.
00:58:53.360 --> 00:59:00.800
But you know, I've been rocking, listening to country music for 40 years, and um it's always been near and dear to me.
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.159
Um I started a couple of records and didn't finish them because I just wasn't excited about it.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:11.039
But when the country idea came up, it was just very special.
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:17.760
I'm saying that to say this Lyo Love It situation came out of almost nowhere.
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:22.960
I'd done one of Lyo's records, I think, but never we had I hadn't worked live with him.
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:45.519
And uh got the call to do that gig, and we took care of the business and finding myself on his stage with his band of beasts on their instrument once again required me to do my homework and show up with my best, and or else just be a slacker on stage.
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:52.079
Um so just being in that I don't call Lyle country or I call him country adjacent.
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:52.400
Yeah.
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.960
Um, but that's and that's where my record is.
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:56.880
I I call myself country adjacent.
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:04.880
My record is not traditional country, but it's still got that country hump with the with the bit of who else I am besides country.
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:05.519
Right.
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:11.760
So I'm just grateful to be able to uh make my own decisions and and watch things come together.
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:13.920
It's been it's still being a good ride.
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.039
It's still being a good ride.
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:16.079
Very, very grateful.
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:29.039
I remember I remember growing up and because my parents listened to a lot of country and I had seen Low Love It and I was like his like music videos and stuff.
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:29.360
Yeah.
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:36.400
And I was like, man, this dude has no emotion on his face whatsoever.
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.960
He doesn't do anything with it, he just plays and does, and then that's it.
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:41.199
Yeah.
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:46.559
There's no like, do you feel do you feel what you were playing?
01:00:46.800 --> 01:01:00.239
Obviously grown up now, and now I'm in my 40s, and I'm like, he absolutely did, because you learn about how everyone's prowess is growing up when you're a kid, you don't really you're not really looking at any of that stuff.
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:01.599
It's not hitting you like that.
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.239
But now it's like you're seeing him like, oh, I get it now.
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:04.480
Yes.
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.400
And now I'm like, all right, respect Lyle.
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:06.800
Yeah.
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.400
And he has a dry wit, but he is hilarious.
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:12.159
And he wouldn't think that looking at us.
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:13.679
He wouldn't think that looked like a lot of things.
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.280
But he is hilarious.
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:21.760
And he uh he talks more on stage than any other artist I've ever worked with.
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.559
Uh which, you know, Garth Brooks.
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.119
I'm not working with Garth, but I did see Garth.
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:28.960
Garth talks a lot.
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:29.679
He didn't talk about it.
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:31.199
Shut up, sing songs.
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.280
Well, that's that that was the common uh uh deal.
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.360
You know, get as many songs in as you can.
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:37.760
Right.
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:46.719
So to be on this cat's gig and hear him, his show is over two hours, and in any given show, he might talk for 30 minutes.
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:47.199
Yeah.
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:48.480
Which is a lot.
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:48.880
Yeah.
01:01:49.119 --> 01:02:04.239
But the audience is on baited breath, waiting to hear this story that he's gonna tell about his life and his family and being on the road and and what have you, and that's been uh another big lesson when I when I do my shows.
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.239
Now I talk to the to the audience.
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:06.639
Yeah.
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.719
And just and that is important to do that.
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:09.440
Yes.
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:09.760
Yeah.
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:19.360
But I really thought there was to overdo it maybe was a no-no, but now I'm like, people want to know about your real life too.
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:19.760
Yeah.
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.800
So, you know, like I said, I'm I've been learning, I'm still soaking it up.
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:30.079
It's it's cool you mentioned that too, because there's I I listen to a lot of uh like rock bands and everything.
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:36.000
And uh one one band that I went to, uh, they're called Taking Back Sunday.
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.719
And uh, you know, small little venue, everybody's packed in there.
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.280
Um, but the lead singer uh when we went to this show, you know how they always go like, oh, you know, how's everybody doing?
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.360
You know, everybody's all like oh we're doing great.
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:50.239
He's talking to me.
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:53.679
Yeah, you know, and them doing that thing, and then he's like, Oh, you know, you know, how are you doing?
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.280
And then everybody's all like, ah, great.
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:57.360
He's like, Oh no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop.
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.320
I'm talking oops, I'm talking to this person right here.
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.119
I want to get I wanna know how they I want to know how they're doing.
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:04.480
Yeah, I'm gonna get to you.
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.400
And then and then the next couple songs will go, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go over here.
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:08.880
Yeah.
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:09.840
How are you doing?
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:11.199
Where are you where are you coming from?
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:17.360
Yeah, and directly talking to people, it it opens up a little bit more of a show, yeah, I think to for everybody.
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.079
Like you're you're not just going there to just listen to music now.
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.280
Now you're getting there to like actually get like a personal experience potentially.
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:24.480
Like, I think that's cool.
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:25.119
It is cool.
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:25.840
I think that's cool.
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:26.719
It's very cool.
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:27.840
It's very cool.
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:40.239
And and I'm mindful in uh bigger venues in in and big arenas and stadiums, I'm mindful to spend some time playing with the people in the nosebleed seats.
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:48.320
Because they're still in the building and they spent their money to be here too, but they're you know, depending on the size of the venue, they can be far away.
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:52.400
But it's important to acknowledge them too and bring them into the party.
01:03:52.639 --> 01:04:02.159
Now, before um we take a another segment break here, um I went through and looked up some stuff about you.
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:03.039
Oh boy.
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:09.039
Uh you know, I and I and I looked and I looked up some I looked up some you know some photos that you have over the over the years.
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:10.079
Oh boy again.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.079
Um so I just picked a random one.
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:12.559
Uh-huh.
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:13.920
I'm gonna show you this picture.
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.840
I'll put it up on the socials when we post this when we post this episode so everybody can see the photo.
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:18.880
I'm so afraid of it.
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:20.400
Um I just picked up a random photo.
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:20.800
Okay.
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.679
I'm gonna show it to you, and I just want you to explain.
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:24.400
This photo.
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:32.719
Explain the photo, what's going on, where you at, who the people are, what what what what time this was, just a random photo.
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.360
I have no prior knowledge to this photo.
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:35.840
Okay.
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.400
You you would you admit that we did not discuss this?
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:39.199
No, we did not.
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:39.920
No, we did not.
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.440
Okay, so I'm just gonna show you this photo.
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.079
Okay, and you're just gonna give me a little little background on it.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.159
So here's the here's the picture right here.
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.400
Ah, that is in Nashville, Tennessee.
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:52.639
Okay.
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.000
And if you show me that again, I can tell you who's in it.
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.159
So I'm on the far left.
01:04:58.239 --> 01:04:59.760
Next to me is Amy Keys.
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:08.880
Um next to Amy is uh Brad Cole, next to Brad is Leland Sklar, and next to Leland is Daryl Sturmer.
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.480
And all five of us were in Phil Collins band together.
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:12.960
There it is.
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.480
But this is at a Lyle Lovitt show uh backstage.
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:23.440
So Brad and Daryl, uh Brad and Daryl came to see me and Amy and Lee.
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:23.760
Okay.
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.559
Uh uh to a Lyle Lovitt show in Nashville.
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.079
Yeah, those are my guys.
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.360
Before we wrap, uh Lamont came into the speakeasy, you know.
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.639
We we let him into the speakeasy, you know, even outside of these podcasts.
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.679
He's a cool dude.
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:37.039
You still blindfold him?
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:37.760
So he doesn't know.
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:39.119
He knows where it is now.
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:40.559
I have my own chair.
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:41.920
He's got his own chair, he's got his.
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.519
I thought you were gonna say you have your own key.
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:44.079
Let's go.
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:44.639
Okay.
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.400
He's got his own top secret code to sneak in here anytime we're not here.
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:48.880
All right.
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:50.719
And he shows we're all he's all excited.
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:51.679
He goes, Look at this picture.
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:52.320
Look at this picture.
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.480
And this picture of about 30, 40 people.
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:56.639
And there's Lamont sitting there.
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.679
And he and I'm looking at the picture, I'm like, I'm gonna come.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:00.480
Us.
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:01.760
Holy shit.
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.400
That's I'm trying to think of what picture.
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:04.880
Okay.
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:07.440
One of the Beatles, maybe?
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.239
Like Ah.
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.400
I finally met a Beatle.
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.920
I met Paul McCartney.
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:12.559
There it is.
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:13.599
I I couldn't believe it.
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:15.519
I'm like, that's freaking Paul McCartney.
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:16.159
Sir, I'm sorry.
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.039
Sir Paul McCartney.
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:17.599
Sir, yeah, yeah.
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:18.320
Sir Paul.
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:18.800
Yes.
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.480
And did you you got to talk to him a little bit?
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:21.519
I got to talk to him.
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:31.280
And during my brief exchange with him, I know what I was saying, but in my mind, I was saying, ooh, stop talking before you say something stupid.
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:32.239
Stop talking.
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:33.119
Stop talking.
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:41.519
But what I wanted to explain to him, that I wanted to explain to him for years is we have we share the same birthday.
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:46.400
Oh so I got to say, Sir Paul, I I do my birthday.
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.559
And one of my life missions is to do my birthday with you.
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.880
And he got a good he got a good laugh.
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:54.320
So I'm still putting that out there, man.
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.960
We got to do June 18th together.
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:57.599
You never know.
01:06:57.920 --> 01:06:58.480
Sooner than later.
01:06:58.719 --> 01:06:59.599
Maybe Paul's listening.
01:06:59.760 --> 01:06:59.920
Yeah.
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:00.400
You never know.
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:01.119
That would be lovely.
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:02.400
But he was lovely.
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:03.440
He was lovely.
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:11.199
And and the way that that happened, I was rehearsing with another band, and the musical director, Greg Filling, said, uh guys, let's take a break.
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.559
One of my friends is here and I want to introduce you guys.
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:28.159
So we put our instruments down and we're walking in the parking lot, and we got like, you know, a hundred feet away, and I could say I was like, that is Paul McCartney.
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.719
He's really just walking us up to meet Sir Paul.
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:34.880
It was pretty, pretty cool.
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:35.679
That's incredible.
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:36.320
Pretty cool.
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:37.360
Incredible for me too.
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:38.719
It's not lost on me, Justin.
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:39.840
It is not.
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:47.440
The the people that I've gotten to meet and the spaces that I've gotten to be in is pretty pretty cool for a little black boy from Oakland.
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:48.079
Oh yeah.
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:48.800
Hell yeah.
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:49.119
Yes.
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:49.599
I'm grateful.
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:50.000
All right.
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.039
Great way to end the segment.
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.039
We are gonna we're gonna wrap this segment up with a with a nice little shiny bow here.
01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:04.159
And when we come back, uh we got our last call coming up, and we got a couple other things to to discuss before we send Lamont off on the road again.
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Are we the dive masters?
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Do we decide will we have an official name or something?
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.600
We haven't given ourselves a name yet.
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:21.199
They are our deep divers.
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:22.880
By the way, before we start.
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:23.600
Buzz.
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:24.720
Yeah.
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.039
Lamont needs another uh what are you drinking?
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:30.479
You're drinking that bravery brewing uh Buster's Brown.
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.560
I'm drinking Busters Brown Hell, baby.
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:40.239
Yeah, and uh Buzz, I'm gonna need uh uh a two uh in a chilled mug, please.
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:41.119
Thank you, Buzz.
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:43.199
To get through this last segment.
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:49.199
So um one of the things that I am most proud of of my friend Lam Mr.
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:56.239
Lamont Van Hoek is his ability to write, create amazing, amazing songs.
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:06.159
And I had the distinct honor to literally go over to his house, go to he's got a nice studio there, and literally watch him put this album together.
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:14.560
And uh so we're gonna the next uh big part of this segment is gonna be all about this album that you released.
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.840
Yeah, and with that said, go for it.
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.399
Yeah, I am so grateful, you guys.
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:24.239
Uh my first full project under my name.
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.239
Uh yeah, I'm really excited and grateful.
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.600
But Buzz is trying to clap, but he was kind of weird.
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:34.000
That was funny though, Buzz.
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:35.680
I feel the love, Buzz.
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:36.479
Yeah, we love you, Buzz.
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.640
A bunch of knuckles hitting each other.
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:41.520
Uh I did a country record, y'all.
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:51.439
And uh as we were alluding to before, I've had uh different producers and directors and different people ask me, would I consider changing my name?
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:54.880
And the answer has always been no, emphatically.
01:10:55.039 --> 01:11:00.159
But uh so I decided to get people used to saying my name with the title of my record.
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.560
So I titled my record My Name is Lamont Van Hook.
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:05.439
Love it just to get people saying it.
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:06.319
Love it.
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.199
And uh yeah, yeah, this record is still plugging along.
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:16.960
I thought uh with my resume, I did think it would be a lot easier to get some attention.
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.119
Uh, but I'm cool with paying some more dues because I'm not stopping.
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:21.439
Yeah.
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.840
So I'm already writing for the next one, and we still got a couple of singles to pull off of this one.
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.159
So some good things are in store, you guys.
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:40.479
So uh follow me on the socials, Lamont Van Hook on Instagram and TikTok now and YouTube and Facebook, and I'm probably leaving something out because socials aren't my thing, you guys.
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:41.439
I'm trying to post more.
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:43.600
Even though it's not Twitter.
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:45.279
I refuse to call it X.
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.079
It's Twitter.
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:47.119
It always will be Twitter.
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:47.760
A tweet.
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:48.960
Yes, a tweet.
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:50.319
Uh I don't X.
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:51.279
Yes, exactly.
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:52.079
That's stupid.
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:52.479
Exactly.
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:53.199
A tweet.
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:55.279
But I am uh grateful.
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.279
Yeah, check out this record and and uh hit me up at uh my email.
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:00.319
I guess I'm gonna do that.
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.239
Lamont at Lamontvanhook.com.
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:04.319
Hit me up, and I will do my best to hit you back.
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.199
But please, please, and thank you for listening.
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.199
Well, I I think we should talk a little bit more about it because this is a big deal, man.
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.359
I've listened I've listened to every song on that album.
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:16.399
And you can and I haven't gotten to listen to any of it yet.
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:22.479
So I yeah, I I'm I'm I'm green into this, so I'm gonna be able to listen to some stuff.
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:23.520
Yeah, so yeah, that's it.
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:29.520
Yeah, and he and and occasionally uh, and it's a it's a really sweet thing, keep your eyes out for this.
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:36.399
Lamont will go down and perform at one of the greatest places in LA to perform the baked potato.
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:37.760
Iconic, yeah.
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:38.640
Iconic.
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:39.600
It's iconic.
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:45.119
It's like the people that have been there, it's like it's a very what 50, 60 people get in there, 70?
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:46.479
I think it's 98.
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:48.319
98 if I am not mistaken.
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.880
But yeah, but in that front area there, it's not very big.
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:53.600
But anyway, you go down there and you get a nice baked potato.
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.079
It's like the size of a freaking football or something, man.
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:57.039
It's like crazy.
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:05.520
Yeah, but um it's it's intimate, and Lamont just you know, he basically just says hi to everybody and hugs everybody.
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:15.840
But you know, you've gone down there a few times and and played many songs off that album and with with some of the greatest performers of all time that that back you up, which is crazy.
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:16.800
My friends.
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:28.159
But um if if if you're loving this podcast, um make a little investment and and and and buy his by his record, man, it's like freaking it's it's special.
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:39.359
And the songs, and I remember we're sitting in your backyard and you're playing these songs, and I'm I'm kind of a big hook uh guy that's uh about hooky music, you know.
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:46.159
And every song that he wrote on that song, which he wrote them all, uh except for the one, which is kind of special too.
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:47.760
I wrote nine out of eleven.
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:49.439
Okay, I'm sorry, nine out of eleven.
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:49.680
Uh-huh.
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.159
Yeah, Wichita Lyman's on there, and he does a version of headband, but is ahead.
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:55.760
Yeah.
01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:04.319
But no, every song that the nine songs that he wrote on that on that album or record or whatever you call it these days, it's they don't have them anymore, unfortunately.
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:05.279
Those are the good old days.
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:07.199
Do they still call them LPs?
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.039
You rarely hear that.
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.760
I see, I grew up in the in the era of LPs.
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:12.319
Me too.
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:13.119
And owls.
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:19.359
And you you I will still hear somebody still hear someone say it, you know, I I just bought a new album, I got a new album out.
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.279
Mostly I hear people say project now.
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:21.840
Yeah.
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:25.439
Because I was saying CD, but every I'm a dinosaur, I still buy CDs.
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:28.000
Listen to that new download?
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.319
Because that's that's all music is now.
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:30.960
That's today.
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:31.680
That's today.
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:32.720
Yeah, it's a download.
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:33.359
Yeah.
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:40.159
Yeah, you don't get to hold anything and see the cover artwork and see the credits that now the kids just downloads.
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:40.800
Yeah.
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.600
I wanted to see who made this music thing.
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.439
That was my favorite thing of buying like CDs.
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:57.039
I go like you know, warehouse and all that stuff, and open up the thing and I pulled a little sheet out and opened it up and like read the stuff, read the lyrics and all that stuff, and like it was damn.
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.319
Yeah, those days are gone.
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:58.880
Yeah.
01:14:59.199 --> 01:14:59.920
Those days are gone.
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:01.039
It's it's different.
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.920
Yeah, we did we did a lot with this record.
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.680
We got a big uh booklet that you can pull out and unfold.
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:23.039
Uh, but the lyrics we're so in much information just for the credits uh that the lyrics we did print them, but you gotta go on my website, LamontBanhook.com, to see the lyrics and check them out because I think they're good good words.
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:26.880
And you still gotta call Phil to see if he'll come and do a song with you on the next album.
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:29.039
I'm gonna call him uh shortly.
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:29.760
Oh yeah.
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.000
You know what's really cool too, and and I'm pretty sure I got this right.
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:44.000
So when he put his website up, on the website, he's got a little um thing that um Phil put on there.
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:44.479
Yeah.
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.720
Just to show the love, basically.
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:48.000
And that's what it was.
01:15:48.079 --> 01:16:02.000
I I reached out to him uh and asked him, would he I reached out to a couple of people and asked them would they give me a couple of lines of quotes that I could use on my socials.
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:12.720
And Phil was the first one, he hit me back the next day, and and he was the only one that hit me back out of the few people that I reached out to.
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.680
And he asked me to give him 24 hours.
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.680
And when he's I thought you were gonna say he was asking asking for 24 bucks.
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.359
I can't do this for free.
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:23.920
Okay.
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:24.399
Yeah, I'm sorry.
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:25.520
I'd have gone for it.
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:26.640
I'd have gone for it.
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:34.399
Uh but just that kind of love, and he did not write a line or two, he wrote a couple paragraphs that we still haven't used everything, just gushing.
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.800
Really made me feel so yeah, loved and appreciated.
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:40.159
You know, just think about that.
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.600
He's he let he sat down in front of a computer and wrote that and and put a lot of thought into it.
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:46.720
That was before AI.
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:46.960
Yeah.
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:47.840
So he actually wrote it.
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:49.199
He actually did it, yes.
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:50.399
But no, I've read that.
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:51.840
I read that and I was like blown away.
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.439
It's like Phil too Phil loves Lamont, man.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.640
And I love him back, and he knows it, and I know he loves me.
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:02.960
And and I, you know, Fred White again uh has taught me so much.
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:03.920
That's a quote from Fred.
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:05.680
Is that Phil calling us right now?
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:06.640
Wait, is he listening?
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:07.760
No, it's not live.
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.239
Sorry.
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:10.880
Fred taught me that love is an action word.
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.079
You don't just say I love you, and and that's it.
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.039
Then you you show some sign somehow.
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:19.119
And yeah, and he's absolutely done that.
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:21.600
Did Fred did Fred sing on the album at all?
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:22.239
Absolutely.
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:22.560
Oh, yeah.
01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:23.840
Fred's all over this record.
01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.199
And and I know uh at least one of the Perry sisters is on there.
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:29.439
Uh Lori's on it, and Carolyn is on it.
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:30.079
Nice.
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.239
Uh and uh is Leland on there a little bit?
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:33.840
Leland's being on Wheels Online.
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:35.279
I'm sorry.
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:37.359
That is great.
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.119
Uh the engineers, Eric Zoller mixed most of this record.
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:45.199
Uh Mick Guzowski, who's done so many other hit records.
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:45.680
Yeah.
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:50.479
Uh uh Rob, what's Rob's Oh, Don't Kill Me, Rob, in Nashville.
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:52.720
Uh he mixed two songs for me.
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.359
I can't think of your last name, Rob, but thank you.
01:17:55.600 --> 01:18:01.199
My record, I tell people, I whether you if you like the record, great.
01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:03.600
If you don't like the record, it's still all my fault.
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.199
Because I got the record I wanted.
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.640
You'll like trust me, listeners, what I intended.
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.920
You will like the record.
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:11.760
You will like you will love the record.
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:12.399
I hope so.
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.600
There's there's there's so many, there's so many great songs on that, on that.
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.600
And uh so many great moments.
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:18.239
Yeah, exactly.
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.920
And these are all just my friends that helped me make this record.
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:33.279
And unlike Justin, who just sang a little bit on the uh last segment, I believe, uh Lamont's not gonna sing.
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:34.000
That's fine.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:39.199
But if you want to hear him sing, you go on, you go on to Lamontvanhoek.com.
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:46.239
That's right, and you purchase that and you listen to it, and you throw it in the car, and yeah, you're driving somewhere and you're listening to that and you just can feel happy.
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:46.720
Yeah.
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.399
That's that's the whole point.
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:49.119
Exactly.
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:55.359
Spotify, it's uh Apple Music, it's all of the places you can find it.
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:56.399
Yeah.
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:59.039
Have you or or will you?
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:01.039
I don't I don't know if you have or or haven't.
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:02.159
I didn't see that anywhere.
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:04.079
Um perform out here.
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:06.399
Like perform a live show out here.
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.680
Uh for the home for the home crew down here.
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.479
I don't think I've done anything like in the Antelope Valley.
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:14.880
Okay.
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:16.560
I would love to play LPAC.
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.960
That's where I would think like everybody would want to at least perform once.
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:21.199
Yeah.
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:22.159
It's just LPAC.
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:27.359
I've been to a couple shows there, and some of the artists I've worked with have played there just not when I was in the band.
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:29.119
Just didn't happen.
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:34.399
I would love to do a show at home, and I could be leave the gig and be in my own bed in 15 minutes.
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:35.600
Are you kidding me?
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:37.279
That's unheard of.
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:40.319
And and Buzz could get you some Busters Brown, probably too.
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:42.720
Yeah, waiting at the door when I get home.
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:43.840
Hit me, Buzz.
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.640
Better than on the stage while you're singing.
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:47.600
I'm cool with that.
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.319
Just constantly refreshed with Busters Brown.
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:52.560
On stage, I call it medicine.
01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:53.199
There it is.
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.039
I need medicine, somebody.
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:56.159
Medicine me.
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:08.239
I think before we get into the favorite, my favorite part of the podcast, where we ask our guests to give us five very interesting facts about their lives that a lot of people don't know.
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.279
We're gonna hit that in a second, but it just popped in my head.
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:15.840
What was the biggest crowd you ever performed in front of?
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:16.560
That's a good one.
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:17.520
Can you remember that?
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:19.199
Yes, I'll never forget it.
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:21.039
That was Rod Stewart days.
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:28.800
We did uh Rio, Rocking in Rio, 98, New Year's Eve 98, going into 99.
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:35.439
And we were in the Guinness Book of World Records at that time for the most people at a concert was over a million people.
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.359
And I think when I was looking at pictures, I think I had the picture of you standing in that.
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:42.960
I think that was on one of them.
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:43.520
Okay, maybe.
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.239
But I think that might have been the one that you're talking about.
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:48.800
That's crazy.
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:56.000
Up and down the beach, uh Copacabana beach and out in the water on their boats.
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:57.600
It was crazy.
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.319
A million.
01:20:58.640 --> 01:20:59.119
It was crazy.
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:00.319
A million people.
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:00.880
Wow.
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:09.199
Yeah, just up and you know, they had big uh screens and and uh audio speakers set up and down the beach so that people could hear and enjoy the show.
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:13.039
But at that time, that was the biggest concert ever.
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:13.760
Wow.
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.359
That's in South America.
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.880
I mean, you know, people do 50,000 seats.
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:20.079
And that's a lot of people.
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:20.399
Right.
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.079
And they're like, I don't know, is that that's Phil Collins.
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:24.960
That's Phil Collins.
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:27.199
That's a Phil Collins stage.
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:27.520
Okay.
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.399
Can't remember what stadiums were at massive.
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:31.359
That was massive.
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:32.079
It was massive.
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:33.359
Phil played stadiums.
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.560
It was, you know.
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:36.159
Yeah, we played some we played.
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:43.039
We played uh Phil played some 90,000 seat stadiums for multiple nights.
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:44.720
I think we have time for this.
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:50.159
I there's one of the cool this is one of the coolest Lamont Van Hoek stories in my mind.
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:51.359
There's so many of them.
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.640
So many of them.
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:54.880
So I think it was the Hollywood Bowl.
01:21:55.039 --> 01:22:00.960
So he would get there, do soundcheck, and then he would go in the worst seats all the way in the back.
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:04.319
Well, there's no bad seat in the Hollywood Bowl, but okay, you know, people are in the way in the back.
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.159
You know what we you know where I'm going with this, right?
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.880
And you would have access to what a two seats like almost up front.
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:12.479
Pretty close.
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:12.960
Yeah.
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:13.359
Yeah.
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:14.399
Tell the story.
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.920
You you would go up in the back and you just say hi to you, and they didn't know who you were.
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.760
You're just like some guy walking around like I I like to people watch.
01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:22.239
Yeah.
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:26.560
And once the house doors open, uh, I just walk around.
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:28.479
You know, put my pass under my shirt.
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:33.279
I'm just another Joe walking around, and I love hearing people talk about whomever they're here to see.
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:34.960
Let's say it's Rod.
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:44.319
You know, uh just overhear people talking about their favorite Rod Stewart song, or the first time they saw him, or the last time they saw him, what he was wearing, and how much fun they had.
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.199
So I I go over to the ball.
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:47.760
Anything.
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.720
And just people are talking, anticipating the show.
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:59.600
I would walk around in the nosebleed seats, you know, they would the uh production would give everybody in the band two tickets for each show.
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:05.279
And if I didn't have guests, I would get my two tickets in hand and go up to the nosebleeds and invite somebody to come.
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.119
You want to come sit down on the floor?
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:07.840
That's awesome.
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.079
You know, and most people would be so excited.
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:12.319
There were a few times where people were like, Who are you?
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:15.520
And these tickets are not real, and why would you do that?
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:20.079
Have me pack up all my stuff to walk down there that's not a real seat.
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.039
Worst case scenario, they're gonna go back to the nosebleed seats, right?
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:24.239
If you're BSing them.
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:25.119
Yes, but you weren't.
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:25.760
Yes, yes.
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:27.279
And then they're you just make their day.
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:28.239
Yes.
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:31.520
And when I, you know, when they see you on stage and go, oh shit.
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:34.399
Exactly.
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:35.119
He was real.
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:36.239
Yeah, we'll take them.
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:37.439
We'll take them now.
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:38.960
Yes, exactly.
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:43.840
And then after that, after those people going to these concerts, they're like, Where's Lamont Fen looking at?
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:45.119
I'm looking for him, man.
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:46.399
I want to go to the front.
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:47.359
Yes, yes.
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:54.560
But that's always uh a joy, you know, when you see some people that you're able to uh like that, they really enjoy the show.
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:55.439
Oh, that's great.
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.039
Yeah, because they have a little, you know, a little extra connection or whatever.
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:03.119
Okay, so here's where I don't think we're gonna embarrass you, but we're gonna do the top.
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:14.399
So we ask you uh to send us the five interesting facts about your life that a lot of people and and I've read all these, and there's a couple that are just I can't wait for the birthday cake.
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:16.239
Oh, very real.
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:16.880
That's very real.
01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.119
So I think Justin's gonna start us off with the first one.
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.359
Okay, so I got the so I got the first one.
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.840
So uh it just simply says gun accident.
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:26.800
Yes, it does.
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:33.920
So you're going to need to explain in some detail here about what gun accident means.
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:35.439
Because that could go a few different ways.
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:36.319
It could.
01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:41.760
Uh what had happened was I was three years old, you guys.
01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:43.119
Three, oh my god.
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:44.960
This is not starting off well.
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:45.760
Yeah.
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:48.960
It gets better, but this is not starting off well.
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:49.279
Yeah.
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:50.560
Three years old and gunning.
01:24:50.800 --> 01:25:00.000
Uh, me and my mom were living with her dad, my grandfather at the time, and he was an avid hunter, and he had his shotgun in the corner like it was a broom.
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.800
And I was told on no uncertain terms, 1,000 times never to touch it.
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:18.399
Um, but this particular day I was watching, sitting in my mother's lap, watching a movie, and my mother told me recently, within the last maybe five years or so, that this was actually Halloween, which I never put that together.
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:25.279
But I got up out of her uh lap to go to the bathroom, and on the way to the bathroom, I saw this gun and decided to touch it.
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:35.359
And I put my index finger on my right hand over the barrel, and I put my and I pulled the trigger with the index finger on my left hand.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.239
And the chaos that ensued, I remember it so well.
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.439
My mother came screaming and running, she looked like a cartoon, like her hair was just, it was crazy.
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:53.279
Um But anyway, I found my grandfather's shotgun when I'm when I was three and shot the top digit of my right index finger off.
01:25:54.239 --> 01:26:04.800
Um my mom says that as tragic as it was, if it had to happen, as good it happened then as a three-year-old, because I hadn't started using my hands yet to write or play or anything.
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:09.279
So since I've been using my hands, my hand has been like it is.
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:15.760
Um But I also what it affords me is to tell kids about gun safety.
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:16.159
Yeah.
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:21.359
Because kids being little, my hand is at their eye level.
01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:21.680
Yeah.
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:27.680
The adults in my life, uh I have to tell them or they'll notice after they've known me for years.
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:28.720
What in the world?
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:29.680
What's going on with your hand?
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:34.880
I was like, oops, I had an accident with a gun when I was a kid, but the kids see it right away.
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:39.840
And I get to tell them, you know, uh, if you ever see a gun, don't touch it.
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:40.159
Yeah.
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:44.880
Go find one of your parents or go find an adult, or or uh, do you want a finger like mine?
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:46.239
And the answer is always no.
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:47.279
Well, that's great.
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:49.439
I didn't want it either, but don't touch.
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:51.920
I get to tell kids about gun safety.
01:26:52.000 --> 01:27:03.680
And if there's a lot of kids at an event, a family event or a party or something, inevitably the the one kid I told about my finger will come back with three or four kids in in tow.
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:04.079
Right.
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:05.600
Can you show them your finger?
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:06.560
Can they touch it?
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.279
Does it hurt?
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:12.800
And I'm like, we could do all of that if you understand that if you see a gun, you're not to touch it.
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:13.039
Yeah.
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:14.640
You are to go the other way.
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:14.960
Yeah.
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:16.720
Unless you want one of these like me.
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:18.000
And yeah.
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.199
And I'm I'm grateful to be able to do that part.
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:21.840
There you go.
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.159
Because it was traumatic, but I'm still here.
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:24.800
There it is.
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:25.359
I'm still here.
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:26.479
Just a finger.
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:27.039
Yeah.
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:32.720
As Justin and I are sitting here looking at your uh right index finger, missing about I wasn't looking.
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.479
I would say about 1.75 inches is gone.
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:38.880
How do you play the piano like that?
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:40.239
It's interesting.
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:48.159
The uh professor that got me into the music department at Howard, he asked me the same qu he he I was playing something for him.
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:52.239
I was playing something, and he said, Oh my god, do you play with your finger?
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.199
And I was, you know, smart mouth kid.
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:58.399
And I looked right at him and said, Do you play with your finger?
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:07.920
And and To his credit, instead of treating me like I was being a little asshole, he said, You know what, young man, I'm gonna get you in my program.
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:15.680
And the rest is history at Howard, because he stayed in my corner through my four years there and uh took care of me.
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:20.079
If you would have said that to JK Simmons and Whiplash, he would have thrown a tray at you.
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:20.720
Exactly.
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:21.359
Exactly.
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.279
He'd have thrown a chair at you, man.
01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:24.079
Exactly.
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:25.279
Yes, indeed.
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:26.319
What a great film.
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:35.520
Okay, so number number two, and and I know, I know, I think I know about this, but you you tell us you're an avid cook and an avid baker.
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:36.239
Oh yeah.
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:37.680
Tell us about that, man.
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:39.920
Food porn is my addiction.
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:41.359
I can watch Martha Stewart.
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:42.960
This is a safe place you can talk.
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:43.520
Okay.
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.520
I could watch Martha Stewart.
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.439
I could watch America's Test Kitchen.
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:52.560
I can watch the Great British Baking Show like all day.
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:54.159
Like all day.
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:56.399
And I do from time to time.
01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.079
I love, I live by myself, so if I want to eat, I gotta cook.
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:03.840
And I come from a family of great cooks and bakers.
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:07.520
So you know, cakes and pies and puddings and cookies.
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:09.520
I love, love, love.
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:10.720
And I just got a new toy.
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.239
I just bought my dream mixer.
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.680
So I just spent I'm gonna make some bread in the next couple days.
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:16.399
There you go.
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.119
And uh yeah, put this thing through its paces.
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:22.960
Cause the new, the new KitchenAid has a half speed for folding.
01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.199
So you don't have to put it all the way to one.
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:26.560
You can put it to half.
01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:27.680
Love it.
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.600
Yeah, but I love, yeah, I love being in the kitchen.
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:32.399
That's cool, man.
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:33.520
Ramsey or nah?
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.159
Say it again.
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:35.520
Ramsey or nah.
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:38.000
Because a lot of people are love hate with him.
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:38.560
Nah.
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:38.960
Nah.
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:39.359
Okay.
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:39.840
That's it.
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:40.640
I don't like mean.
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:41.520
I like it in the kids.
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:45.279
I don't, I don't like, I don't like the way you see these reality shows in wrestling.
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:46.560
He's cheeky mean though.
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.800
I don't think he was really like mean like that.
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:50.960
I need my food to be prepared with love.
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.359
I need some love on this though.
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:53.760
Yeah.
01:29:54.159 --> 01:30:05.760
Um so next one I have here is uh your your guilt your guilty pleasure is as aforementioned birthday cake.
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:10.239
Uh it says here that you say it is a food group and that you will eat it year-round.
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:12.159
Please delve into that a little bit.
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:19.920
Because I I tell I tell my wife all the time because I love cake, uh-huh, and that's one of the main reasons why I got married.
01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:20.479
Okay.
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:21.439
Is cake.
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:21.840
Yes.
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:23.359
Your wedding cake was the bomb.
01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:28.640
Yeah, a lot of people around, because I know my wife, and she thinks it's funny, but other people here they're like, that's not funny.
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:29.439
That's fine.
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:29.840
I get it.
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:30.560
I think it's funny.
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:31.279
I get it.
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:32.479
I can relate.
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:33.760
I don't know what it is.
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:38.159
The buttercream frosting with all the flowers and piping.
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:39.520
I love birthday cakes.
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:46.640
So, I mean, we're talking like you're going into a store, like you're going into like an Alberts and the Stater Brothers of Costco, you're you're getting a birthday cake.
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:47.279
Yes.
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:47.760
Yes.
01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:50.079
Are you having them like write messages on it?
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:51.840
Not all the time, but sometimes.
01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:54.960
And then you're just, and then you just go home and you just eat the birthday cake.
01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:56.000
For a couple days.
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:56.640
Yeah.
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.000
And some ice cream.
01:30:58.560 --> 01:30:58.960
Yeah.
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.359
I'm working on one right now, the honest truth.
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:01.680
Okay.
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:02.960
I'm working on one right now.
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:10.880
I just go out on a loom and say we're never going to have a guest that ever comes up with that one.
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.359
I love no, that's a that's that's no.
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:15.840
I buy birthday cake all year.
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.159
Uh okay, that's pretty freaking.
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:19.439
Celebrating it every year.
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:20.399
There you go.
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:20.880
Okay.
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:21.359
There you go.
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:25.279
So I the next one, um, I'm with you on this, brother.
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:25.840
Uh-huh.
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:31.279
I do not Lamont Van Hook does not like scary movies.
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:31.680
I do.
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.720
I used to love Dracula and Frankenstein.
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:37.359
Now I have nightmares for nights.
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:37.680
Okay.
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:40.159
So I don't even mess around.
01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:48.960
There's some new movies that I understand are really great, but if it's on the verge of being a scary movie, I won't see it because I know it's it stays with me.
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:53.680
So I used to work at Halloween Horror Nights, so now I know to not ever invite you to that.
01:31:54.319 --> 01:31:54.640
Okay.
01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.439
Free ticket and everything, just still a still a naw.
01:31:59.600 --> 01:31:59.760
Okay.
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:00.479
Hard naw.
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.000
I'm hard naw.
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:05.119
I'm scary anyway, and that yeah, that would take a little bit.
01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:07.199
Hey, Buzz, do you like scary movies?
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:08.800
He's like shaking his head.
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:10.399
No, he doesn't like me either, man.
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:11.039
Okay.
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:13.520
But you like scary movies, Justin?
01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:14.079
Oh, yeah.
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.039
Uh I I used to like scary movies, but it was one of my favorite genres.
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:18.319
I get nightmares too, man.
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:19.760
It's like I don't want to watch scary movies.
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:22.720
I mean, yeah, it it'll mess with you, but that's kind of the point.
01:32:22.880 --> 01:32:26.000
It's supposed to make you like afraid of life a little bit.
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:33.199
Like one of my like one that messes with messed with me was not the newest version of it, but it's called The Strangers.
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:33.840
Yeah.
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:35.359
And that's real.
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:36.399
I like that.
01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:42.079
The real stuff that can happen to you, not the supernatural, crazy stuff that happens.
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.640
That no, I don't yeah, that that that still messes with me.
01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:48.640
But like a Chuck E doll walking around, I'm good.
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:50.560
I know because I know that can't happen.
01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:52.239
I know it can't happen, though.
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:53.199
It's not real.
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.079
Speaking of Chucky, I gotta just tell you real quick.
01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:02.479
I'm sure my son Brian's gonna listen to this podcast, and uh oh my god, he used to like freak out about the Chuck E Doll thing, man.
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:03.039
Me too.
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:03.520
Me too.
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:05.199
Yeah, I mean you're a cute, I guess.
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.319
I think he's still I think he still wigs out if he sees a Chucky thing.
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:09.039
Yeah, I would.
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:09.600
Okay.
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:10.239
I would.
01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:11.520
That's a good one, man.
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:12.319
Thanks for sharing that.
01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:14.079
Yeah, I'm not a horror movie guy.
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.399
You gave me a little idea about Brian now.
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:24.319
Um so next one I have here is that uh that you have a large collection of manual and power tools.
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:33.439
Yeah, you know, for some reason, Justin, my circle, like my family, some of my family too, they don't believe I can fix stuff.
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:33.920
Okay.
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:35.680
And I like fixing stuff.
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:43.920
My dad, uh, and my stepdad, as a matter of fact, were both very, they were both mechanics, and my dad is still here, my stepdad passed.
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:49.920
But they're both mechanics and both very handy, and my dad, both of them would make me help them.
01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:54.239
You know, I wanted to play my piano and listen to my records, and that could have been my life.
01:33:54.560 --> 01:34:06.399
But they were like, You're gonna help me put in the brakes on this car, you're gonna help me build a wall for this new house edition, you're gonna help me with plumbing, you're gonna help me with some lightweight electrical.
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:13.680
So those things that I really, really, really did not want to learn have served me quite well.
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:17.279
And I literally have a garage full of tools that I use.
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:22.239
What's the what's the one thing that you have fixed that you're the most proud of?
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.000
Oh, probably my hardwood floors downstairs in my house.
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:26.319
Okay.
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:34.319
Friend of mine, this uh flooring contractor, uh, he and his wife flew out to help me and and teach me how to install hardwood floors.
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.359
It wasn't like a moment where like you like you had carpet and then you ripped it up.
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:39.039
I'm like, oh my god, I have hardwood floors.
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:44.720
No, you put I had carpet and and and downstairs, and when I pulled the carpet up, it was a slab.
01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:45.439
There you go.
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.399
So yeah, we we put the carp we put the hardwood slopes.
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:50.880
I've been there.
01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:51.680
It's beautiful, man.
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:52.319
That was funny.
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:54.000
Yeah.
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:54.720
Yeah.
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:56.000
You know, uh yeah.
01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:58.239
I he Joe helped me, Joe Lang.
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.000
Hey Joe, if you and Jerry are listening.
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:06.239
Um he helped me do the uh living room, dining room in my house is one long room.
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:11.279
Okay, and and he helped me do that, and then I did the family room pretty much by myself once he showed me what to do.
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.680
If we ever get Diana Ross in here, I'm gonna ask her if she ever put down a hardware floor in her life.
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.359
No, she'll she'll she'll be on her.
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:18.319
Okay.
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:18.960
We'll get her.
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.760
Sorry, now comes our our favorite part of the show.
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:22.479
This is the wrap up.
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:27.840
This is this is the wrap-up for uh our our podcast tonight, and it's called we call it last call.
01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:28.239
Okay.
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:30.640
By the way, oh last call speaking of that.
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:31.199
Hey, Buzz.
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:32.159
Yeah, hit me one month.
01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:33.359
No, he just said that's it.
01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:34.159
It's last call.
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:35.119
We can't get another drink.
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:37.439
He's following the rules, man, that you gave dude.
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:38.319
Oh man.
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:39.840
No, it's not gonna do it.
01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:40.319
All right, I guess.
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:41.039
He's not gonna do it.
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:41.439
Last call.
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:42.479
All right.
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.319
So we'll get you your tab after.
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:45.359
Thank you.
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:46.239
We'll get it figured out.
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:48.239
So that we we go back and forth on this one.
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:50.399
So um, what is Mr.
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:55.840
Van Hook, my buddy Lamont, what is your go-to cocktail?
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:57.680
Cocktail.
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.560
Cocktail is a mixed drink.
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:01.279
Yes.
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:07.680
Uh, if I have to have a mixed drink, we'll do it lat last like last night, you know, maybe vodka crane.
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:14.000
But if I'm having booze, I I've been a cognac drinker for years, but I'm learning whiskey now.
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.479
And Scotch, because of you, you turned me on a Scotch Bart.
01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:24.159
I wasn't a Scotch guy, but you know, now some Balvinny or uh Lafroig or Glenn Fiddletz, I'm like, I'm here.
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:25.439
Neat or on the rocks.
01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:25.920
Neat.
01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:26.560
Neat, yeah.
01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:26.880
Neat.
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.840
Or the uh metal ice cubes that don't water down.
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:31.439
It doesn't water it down, yeah.
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:31.920
No, no.
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.680
You get an expensive whiskey, you don't want to like water it down.
01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:36.720
Put an ice cube in it.
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:37.520
People do.
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:38.239
Oh, absolutely.
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.239
But I yeah, I don't I want to taste the booze.
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:43.760
And just wait until you get to a point where you have your own scotch called Lamont.
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.039
Hey, how about it?
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:45.920
How about it, friend?
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:48.399
Yes, like a like a 12-year Lamont?
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:48.800
Yes.
01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.680
Um, man.
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:52.560
You never know.
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:56.960
Um your favorite sport to watch on TV.
01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:59.680
Ooh, it has changed with the Olympics.
01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:00.960
You know, I could watch curling.
01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:02.479
Olympics are fun to watch.
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:05.520
I could watch uh hanging out with Bart and a couple of my other friends.
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:07.439
I could watch golf now because I understand it.
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:17.359
Um, you know, I grew up watching football, baseball, and basketball, and that's still fun, and boxing, you know, when Ollie and Fraser, Ken Norton, when all that was going on.
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:17.760
Yeah.
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:23.119
Uh, but again, that was really my brother's and my dad's bonding moment.
01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:30.399
You know, I used to know all the players because that's what you did back then when I was a kid, but I would rather see Gladys Knight.
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:32.000
I really would.
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:33.680
I really would than Reggie.
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.079
Watching the Super Bowl for the halftime show.
01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:36.640
Yes.
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:37.119
That's me.
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:38.079
I mean, that's which is fine.
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:38.560
That's me.
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:39.119
Which is fine.
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:39.520
Yes.
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.640
I w I know who's playing the game, but I don't know how they got there.
01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:44.800
The playoffs, I have no idea.
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.479
But I will watch the halftime show.
01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:49.520
He shows up to the halftime show, watches it at the bar, and then leaves.
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:50.000
Yes.
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:52.479
And watch the commercials.
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:53.119
I love it.
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:53.359
Yeah.
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:54.000
I love it.
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:54.960
Next question.
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:58.319
This this one takes a little thought, so don't don't just jump right on to it.
01:37:58.560 --> 01:37:59.680
That's one of my favorite ones that you go.
01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:00.399
I love this one.
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:00.800
Yeah.
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:20.079
So if if uh if you could be sitting here in the speakeasy right now, smoking a cigar, having your busters brown, and you could pick any historic figure to be sitting in my seat or Justin's seat just to have a a beer or a cocktail and just shoot the shit essentially.
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:21.039
Alive or dead.
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:21.600
Huh.
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:22.079
Yeah.
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:23.119
Who would that be?
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:25.119
You know, we were thinking about that one.
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:30.960
Yeah, we were we were at Bravery the other night and you were asking about singers that I love, and we talked about Aretha.
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:33.760
You know, just to have a girl in the mix tonight.
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.479
I know she smokes cigarettes at some point in her life.
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:46.640
I don't know if she smokes cigars ever, but if Aretha could be in this room and just talk, just talk to me about what was the session like for Ain't No Way.
01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:53.279
What was the session like for respect when you did after you finished that lead vocal, were you happy?
01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:55.520
Or where did you want to do it again?
01:38:56.239 --> 01:39:03.199
Uh yeah, it could be so many people, but I would love to have some quality FaceTime with Aretha Franklin.
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:04.000
Good answer.
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.319
Ah, that's impressive because um thank you.
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:10.640
I think that that's legit because our last guest, uh, it was believe it or not, Pee Wee Herman.
01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:13.760
But yeah, you know, well, you know, everybody's got their you know.
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:14.479
That's right.
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:15.199
That's right.
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:17.039
Pee-wee was doing his thing until he wasn't.
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.079
Well, hey, it's all good.
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:21.760
I got love for you, Pee-wee.
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:23.840
We all love Pee-wee.
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:26.239
Yeah, oh my God.
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:28.239
Today's word of the day is Lama.
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:32.239
You are funny.
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:33.039
Yeah.
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:34.880
People disagree.
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:38.800
So uh the next one here, this is this is interesting.
01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:46.399
Given our given our guest, uh your favorite musical artist, and it does not have to mean it's someone that you perform with.
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:52.720
It could just be someone that you get in the car and like, I this is my go-to list, like, go to listen.
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:53.359
This is it.
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:54.000
Stevie.
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:55.119
Stevie?
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:56.239
Yeah.
01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:56.640
Okay.
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:00.720
You know, and uh it could be so many, but Stevie.
01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:02.399
Yeah.
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:10.399
And I've had the pleasure to work with him live and in the studio, and he's such a wealth of knowledge, but a beautiful soul.
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:11.920
Just yeah.
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:12.479
I love it.
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:12.960
It was fun.
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:13.840
You know what?
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:18.720
Speaking of Stevie Wonder, um, I've always I've always wondered about I mean, I he's blind.
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:20.079
He's completely blind, right?
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:22.720
He doesn't even see like gray or nothing, it's just black, right?
01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:23.119
I don't know.
01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:24.239
That I don't know.
01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:32.720
But do you think that you know they say that when people lose one of their senses, their other senses become more powerful?
01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:33.359
Uh-huh.
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:39.199
Um, if he had total perfect vision, maybe he wouldn't have been the superstar he was.
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:39.600
I don't know.
01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:40.000
Maybe.
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:40.800
You know what I'm saying?
01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:41.119
Yeah.
01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:48.239
I've always thought about that because I don't know how you can write all these songs and perform on stage and play the piano totally blind.
01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:48.720
Yes.
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:50.560
And and sing these songs he sang.
01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:52.880
And right, he wrote most of his songs, I believe.
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:53.520
Yes.
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:54.399
It's unreal.
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:59.119
And you know, when when he started, you know, he had hits as a solo artist from little Stevie Wonder.
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:01.439
Little Stevie Wonder, he's like, what, 14 or something?
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:02.640
Yeah, I think 13 or 13.
01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:02.960
13.
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:03.840
Yeah, crazy.
01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:16.079
And but when he started being grown-up Stevie Wonder, you know, music of my mind, I think that was 1974, where he played all the instruments on the record for the and that was one of the first times anybody had ever done that.
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:16.560
Yeah.
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.760
Uh where he was writing and producing his own records.
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:20.159
Yeah.
01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:28.640
He was, you know, I think when he wrote Talking Book with uh You Are the Sunshine of My Life and Maybe Your Baby and Tuesday Heartbreak on that record.
01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:30.479
I don't know if he was 30.
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:31.680
Wow.
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:33.039
That's what I'm saying.
01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:34.079
That's incredible.
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:35.279
That's what I'm saying.
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:38.560
I don't know if Living for the City, he might have been 30.
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.760
He might have been 30 writing songs like that, man.
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.239
By the way, is he in the rock and roll hall of fame?
01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:45.439
That's a good question.
01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:46.640
I just threw that out there.
01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:48.239
I don't know if they consider that rock and roll.
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:48.640
I think so.
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.520
And that's another delineation, but you know.
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.840
We could do a whole podcast on all the people that should be on that rock and roll hall of fame that aren't.
01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:00.720
You know, and there are people that have been inducted that are not necessarily rock and roll artists.
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:00.960
Yeah.
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:01.920
But they include that.
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.239
I think the rock and roll part is a loose term.
01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:04.479
Yeah.
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:09.840
Because I think there's just like there's no other Hall of Fame other than that one that's like, yeah.
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:11.840
We'll look that one up.
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:12.479
We'll look it up.
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:13.039
We'll get by.
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:14.479
So uh okay.
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.399
I'm wondering if we already covered this.
01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:18.239
I'm curious to hear your answer on this one.
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:18.640
Okay.
01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:24.960
What is what's your favorite place to travel for a weekend getaway or a week getaway?
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.840
Anywhere in the world, you just say, I want to go to this place and just do.
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:37.039
Yeah, I would have to go for more than a week, but one of my favorite cities on the planet is Prague in the Czech Republic.
01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:42.800
It's just it's romantic like Paris, but at a fraction of the budget.
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:43.279
Yeah.
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:57.520
And it's, you know, you can still stay at the Four Seasons or you know, high-end hotels, but the city, the lights across the bridge and the castle, and the food is good, and the people are welcoming, and there's a music scene there.
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.000
Um I like Prague.
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:01.039
I like it.
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:02.079
That's interesting.
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:03.119
Never been to Prague.
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:03.920
You gotta do it.
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:05.199
Our last word.
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:07.600
Just so you know, our last guest said Lake LA.
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:08.319
Yeah.
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:09.199
I mean, okay.
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:09.680
Good good.
01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:10.399
Good on them.
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:11.760
Good on them.
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:14.640
When Jester, he's not gonna be happy.
01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:16.079
I'm just kidding, Jester.
01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:17.680
I'm never gonna be on the show again.
01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:18.640
Don't ask me.
01:43:19.199 --> 01:43:25.439
Um so if you, so you're in this uh luxurious, beautiful speakeasy here.
01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:26.239
Yes, I am.
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:38.479
If you were to have your own speakeasy, your own illustrious, very secretive speakeasy, what would your password to get in be?
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.279
Ooh, what could it be?
01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:46.399
Uh we all know Barts, but what would yours be?
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:48.399
Oh, I know what it would be.
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:49.039
Uh-oh.
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:50.319
Rosebud.
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:51.920
Oh my god.
01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:53.760
That's that's clever.
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.760
And then you drop a you have to drop a like a snow globe on something.
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.319
To drop a snow globe at the door so they know it broke.
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:01.920
I like that rosebud, man.
01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:06.159
Isn't that isn't that how that movie started and ended?
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:08.720
I believe Citizen Camp, right?
01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:13.359
It starts out with rosebud because he's like all messed up, and at the end it's rosebud.
01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:14.560
At the end it's rosebud.
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:15.199
Oh my god.
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.000
Well, now every if you ever do have the speakeasy.
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.920
We all know the that's cool.
01:44:22.079 --> 01:44:22.560
That's cool.
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:23.359
I'm good with that.
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:24.560
So bring your snow globes.
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:25.199
Okay, okay.
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:26.800
You you enjoying this part of the thing here?
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:28.960
Yeah, this doesn't hurt at all.
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:29.199
Yeah.
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:30.159
Alcohol helps.
01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:31.359
Indeed.
01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:32.479
Thanks, Buzz.
01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:33.600
Buzz.
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:34.159
We love you.
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.319
We have we're gonna give him a pay raise after this.
01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:39.199
I no, no, it's only a second job.
01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:39.840
No, that's true.
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:41.520
He doesn't get to ask for anything.
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:43.760
Okay, here we go.
01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:48.479
So this is a uh I mean this this one I'm really curious.
01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:54.399
Um, if you could instantly just master any skill, what would it be?
01:44:55.520 --> 01:45:00.800
Uh drop of a hat, just boom, I could just be an opera singer or whatever.
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:02.479
I would be doing something.
01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:08.239
If I was not in the music business, I think we've talked about this before, I would be doing something with airplanes.
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:10.640
I don't know if I would be a pilot.
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:11.279
Wow.
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:18.239
I don't know, but I am fascinated still how this big thing can fly.
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:31.359
This big thing can get in the air and go around the world and land, and you get out and it's different people, different language, different money, different food, it's different.
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:36.720
And you just got off of this thing that weighs tens of tons.
01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:46.399
Yeah, they I uh you know, me as a pilot, I as as I recall a Boeing a Boeing 747, which I think is still the one of the bigger airplanes in the world.
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:50.399
Now they have that double decker thing, but yeah, I remember it was a million pounds.
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.640
A million pounds is flying in the freaking air.
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:54.239
That's crazy.
01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:55.600
Fascinating.
01:45:55.760 --> 01:46:01.760
Yeah, I don't know what I would do, but I think I would be doing having something to do, excuse me, with airplanes.
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:02.640
That's cool, man.
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:03.359
Yeah.
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:07.680
I would just want to be the uh the light lantern dude that does.
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:08.720
Isn't that cool?
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:12.960
Yeah, because like you see the one the video of the one guy like doing like a whole dancing thing.
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:14.079
Like, yeah, I would do that.
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:15.359
I would be like stupid down there.
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:16.640
Like I wouldn't last that long.
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.600
Like somebody would be like, get this dude out of here, he's fired.
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:23.760
But I would have fun doing it for like, you know, the I guess two hours that they had allowed me to do.
01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:26.079
Can I just answer the question if I could do that?
01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:26.399
Yeah.
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.720
I would be Lamont Van Hook singing on stage in front of a million people.
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:36.800
Hanging out with Rod Stewart, hanging out with Rod Stewart, kicking soccer balls and that's great.
01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:44.960
Um something on your bucket list that you're determined to cross off.
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:46.079
Ooh.
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:52.239
You know, there are a lot of singers and players I would like to make music with.
01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:58.720
Um my dream gig, I've said it for years, and it's still true if you guys are listening.
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.359
I wanna I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:05.039
I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:05.760
Okay.
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:07.840
I want to tour with the stones.
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:08.640
You guys hear me?
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:08.880
Yeah.
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:11.840
I think he wants to tour the stones.
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.640
Isn't isn't Mick Jagger our next guest next uh next post?
01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:15.520
Next week, yeah.
01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:17.039
We could we could hit him up.
01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:17.439
I don't know.
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:18.159
I will be here.
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.760
If he gets us on the phone with Phil Collins, we'll hook him up.
01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:22.239
Okay.
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:24.800
Still waiting for that speaker phone phone call.
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:25.359
Okay.
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:26.319
Wow, man.
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:28.640
That's uh that's yeah, something on my butt.
01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:31.600
You know, I still love to travel when I'm not working.
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.239
I travel for work, but I still love to travel.
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.479
Something off of my bucket list, you know.
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:40.960
It seems like it's the stones, though.
01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:43.119
I want to work with the stones.
01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:43.760
I'm available.
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.319
You gotta learn the the pointy fingers.
01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:50.880
You go or pointy fingers you gotta learn in the in the in the behind the back chicken.
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:51.520
Yes, yes.
01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:53.279
I gotta do a big dagger shuffle.
01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:53.680
I got it.
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:55.359
All right, just call me for the gig, Mick.
01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:55.760
I got you.
01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:56.079
All right.
01:47:56.720 --> 01:47:56.960
I got you.
01:47:57.039 --> 01:48:00.079
Because he's gonna be watching and making sure that the finger pointing is happening.
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:00.399
Yes.
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:00.720
Yeah.
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:01.439
I'll be ready.
01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:02.720
We gotta start you up, buddy.
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:04.399
I'll gotta start me up.
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:06.399
You start me up, I never stop.
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:07.199
Come on.
01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:08.399
That's right.
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.640
Okay, we're getting, we're almost there, brother.
01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:11.439
You're doing great.
01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:12.159
Okay, good.
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:16.000
So now I'm gonna, because of who you are, I'm gonna have to qualify this.
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:19.600
So the the question is what's the best concert you've ever been to?
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:24.880
But I'm gonna say that you weren't performing at a performer, yeah.
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:26.640
Been to a lot of great shows.
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:29.359
Oh, I'm thinking like thousands.
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:33.600
The one that sticks out immediately, my first country show.
01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:37.680
You know, growing up, I didn't want toys and stuff, I didn't want clothes.
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.039
I wanted and concert tickets.
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:44.479
And my mother was really keenly locked into that.
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:50.159
Um so 19, I think it was 1984, I went to my first country concert.
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:53.520
The Juds were headlining, and Garth Brooks was opening.
01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:56.960
It's pretty far back when Garth was an opener.
01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:00.239
But I had so much fun at that show.
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:09.680
Me and my cousin Kelly went to that show and we had we had so much fun that the people that was at the Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, uh outdoor shit.
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:12.800
Uh we had so much fun that the people around us had a lot of fun.
01:49:13.279 --> 01:49:19.840
Because we were yeah, I don't go, I don't go to a show to sit still, I go to a show to participate.
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:20.239
Yeah.
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.039
Uh like I like to see people when I'm on stage performing.
01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:28.960
It's you know, if it's the right song, you can sit there and sit and enjoy yourself, and I can see that.
01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:34.079
But if we are laying it down, it needs to be up on your feet or arms in the air or something.
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:34.479
Yep.
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:36.159
So I can have fun too.
01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:39.279
So when I go to a show, I'm all I'm all in it.
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:39.520
Okay.
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:41.439
I'm all in it for the performers on stage.
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:42.640
I'm here to have a good time.
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:43.439
Yeah.
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:44.640
That's so you should be.
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:45.359
Exactly.
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:47.520
Last question jet from Justin.
01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:49.119
This is my favorite question.
01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:49.760
Oh my.
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:50.720
It is about this.
01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:51.840
This is his favorite question.
01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:52.319
Okay.
01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:56.960
Mine was multiple questions ago, but I get I get to ask his favorite question.
01:49:57.199 --> 01:49:57.520
Okay.
01:49:57.760 --> 01:49:58.640
Let's see.
01:49:58.880 --> 01:49:59.439
The best.
01:50:00.319 --> 01:50:03.520
Piece of advice that you have ever received.
01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:04.720
That's easy.
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:13.920
My grandfather, I remember I was about to go to college and he used to come by the house and play uh play the piano.
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:15.520
Play my dad's piano.
01:50:16.399 --> 01:50:23.439
And I remember he had these long hairs, long gray hairs on the tops of his hands.
01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:27.760
And I would just go down in the studio and just watch him play.
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:34.239
And this particular day I was sitting on the piano bench next to him, just listening to him play, and we were talking a little bit.
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:38.720
And he told me, son, you're about to go away to school.
01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:45.119
And I want to advise you to be timely, is what he said.
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Be timely.
01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:49.600
What he meant was don't be late.
01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:53.359
Don't have people looking for you, wondering where you are.
01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:59.920
And then, you know, years later, I do break into the business where that is a gigantic no-no.
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:01.520
Late?
01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:03.439
The artist can be late.
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:05.199
Nobody else can be late.
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:09.039
And you gotta come to rehearsal rehearsed.
01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:14.399
You don't come to rehearsal to learn the music, you come to rehearsal to shape the music, to tweak the music.
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:20.800
But there are a lot of newbies and some old people like me that think they don't have to prepare.
01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.600
So yeah, my my grandfather telling me to be timely.
01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.479
I will never forget it, and I've taken it to heart.
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:40.079
And some of the veterans in the business have come to me after a gig and told me that I have a good reputation around time, around town of being on time and being prepared.
01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.439
And I can't ask for anything more than that.
01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:45.279
Because that is my that's my goal.
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.119
If you hire me for your gig, I don't want you to have to worry about what I'm supposed to do.
01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:49.439
Yeah.
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:52.239
I got you, I got you covered on what I'm supposed to do.
01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:52.479
Right.
01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:54.640
You can worry about something else.
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.319
That is my job.
01:51:57.039 --> 01:51:58.399
And that's how you keep a job.
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:03.600
You make yourself uh valuable to the artist by doing what you were hired to do and doing it well.
01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:04.000
Exactly.
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:04.880
And you will work.
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:13.119
But if you want to come in late and unprepared and entitled, it might be too late to replace you for this gig.
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:15.520
But you will not be called for the next one.
01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:19.600
And you know, I'm yeah, I'm grateful for a 40-plus year career.
01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:22.159
I must be doing something right most of the time.
01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:23.199
You know?
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:24.720
Yeah, I'm grateful.
01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:27.920
Yeah, but yeah, my grandfather telling me to be timely.
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:29.279
I'll never forget it.
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:37.039
And my grandmother on the same uh occasion after my senior ball where I drank too much, and I knew I think she knew I was gonna drink too much.
01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:40.479
So my grandmother called me at like eight o'clock in the morning the next day.
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:41.840
How you doing, son?
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:50.720
I was like, but I remember her telling me, trouble is a lot easier to get into than it is to get out of.
01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:51.920
That's good advice, too.
01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:54.720
I was like, whoa, never forgot it.
01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:55.359
Yeah.
01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:56.159
Yeah.
01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:57.520
So don't get in trouble.
01:52:57.680 --> 01:52:58.399
I like that.
01:52:58.560 --> 01:52:58.880
Yeah.
01:52:59.039 --> 01:53:02.399
Well, it doesn't help that Lamont was 15 minutes late to the show.
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:02.720
Okay.
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:04.079
Um anyway.
01:53:05.119 --> 01:53:06.640
That is not true.
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:08.239
That is not so.
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:09.520
15 minutes early.
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:10.000
Okay, my.
01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:11.600
Sorry, maybe I should have said that.
01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:16.239
My license plate on my first car that I bought outright said not one to be late.
01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:16.880
Really?
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:17.199
Yeah.
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:17.920
Wow, I'm not sure.
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:25.279
And I've been late, you know, very few times, but I am driven to distraction by being late.
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:31.119
I'm just, I need a to a cocktail to calm down if I show up late, because I'm taking a good place.
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:32.960
You can take Buzz with us with you.
01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:34.479
He'll make sure.
01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:35.840
Um, all right, Lamont.
01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:37.680
Uh this comes the point of the show.
01:53:37.760 --> 01:53:38.960
This is this is this is the end.
01:53:39.039 --> 01:53:39.520
This is it.
01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:42.000
This is this is we are we are a wrap.
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:43.600
Um just getting started, man.
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:44.640
I know, man.
01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:48.159
Um, so this this now we let me just say this too.
01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:50.399
We sc I said this on the last break.
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:52.399
We scratched the surface just barely.
01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:55.279
There's so much more to Lamont Van Hook.
01:53:55.760 --> 01:54:03.039
There's the look, I think everybody's gonna kind of get this at some point here as they listen to the show's brand new show.
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:03.359
Uh huh.
01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:14.800
Um, if you're on the show once, you are going to have to come back to the show again because we are going to go even deeper into your we are we're only allotted so much time.
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:15.279
Yes.
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:16.159
Did I get that?
01:54:16.399 --> 01:54:22.880
But we everybody just just be ready for having your time on here for multiple multiple sessions.
01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:25.119
As long as Buzz is here, I'm I'm good.
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:28.000
It's gonna, it's Buzz is here, I'm I'm good.
01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:28.399
Yeah.
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:31.279
We're we're we're investigating Buzz right now.
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:43.039
Um so this is your time uh to if there is anything you want to plug, if there's anyone you want to thank, if there's anyone you want to talk to, this is your moment, this is not ours.
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.479
We are going to be dead silent for you.
01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:48.319
Uh this is your moment.
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:53.279
Whatever you have on your mind, whatever you want to let the people know, this is your moment.
01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:54.079
Go ahead, man.
01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:56.479
Well, I am grateful for the opportunity.
01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.399
Thank you guys for inviting me.
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:04.000
I uh I am having a good time, and and like I said, this didn't hurt at all.
01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:08.880
Um I had a great songwriting session today, so I want to say hey to Jacob Miller.
01:55:09.039 --> 01:55:11.439
We're gonna finish this song uh Monday.
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:17.600
Um, and just thank you all, everybody that's listening to the record and leaving comments on my socials.
01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:20.079
I'm really learning the socials, you guys.
01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.039
I it's just it's like a full-time job.
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:28.399
Uh and I'm uh getting my feet wet, and I'm gonna post more, I promise.
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:37.439
But I really appreciate you know you coming up after a show and saying, hey, I heard your record, or I heard about your record, or I'm glad to see you on the road with this artist.
01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:39.279
I've seen you on the road with that artist.
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.039
I'm just uh grateful to be acknowledged.
01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:47.680
And uh we got more to do, everybody, so just uh stay with me.
01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.159
All right, that's how you do that.
01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:50.640
All right then.
01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:52.079
See, that wasn't scary at all.
01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:53.039
That wasn't scary at all.
01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:54.960
Uh Bart, any last words?
01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:59.359
Uh just been an absolute pleasure and honor to hang out with you tonight.
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:00.880
And uh, me too.
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:01.359
Yeah, man.
01:56:01.439 --> 01:56:02.800
Thank you so much for doing this, man.
01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:07.520
I think uh yeah, I think you just picked up a lot more fans and uh That's all good.
01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:08.399
Yeah, you're just a great guy.
01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:09.199
That's all lovely.
01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:10.159
That's all you man.
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:11.039
Love you back.
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:11.760
There it is.
01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:12.079
Yeah.
01:56:12.239 --> 01:56:12.960
All right, folks.
01:56:13.119 --> 01:56:17.920
That does it for episode two uh of Deep Diving in the Speakeasy.
01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:19.279
Uh join us next time.
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:22.319
Uh we'll follow us on our Instagram.
01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:26.560
Um we'll we also have a Facebook that's gonna be coming up live here shortly.
01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:33.680
Uh we will post all uh photos that we have from um from our show that we have for each time.
01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:40.079
Uh a couple little uh information snippets that we'll put out for you guys as well of who we're gonna have our next guest.
01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:48.560
Uh, you know, we'll have all that on the on the social, so please give us a follow and please tell your friends uh and family to give us a uh follow and a listen as well.
01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:50.239
And that is gonna do it.
01:56:50.399 --> 01:56:52.720
Thank you guys, and we'll see you on the next.