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So we've got Sam Carter here from Architects, and I
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just want to start out and ask you what is
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it like to live in a world where daylight savings
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time does not exist?
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We we we do have clock changes. We do clock changes,
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we do yeah, but we have them at different times.
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It's it always does my head in if I'm honest,
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because it just means that your day sort of ends
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about four point thirty in the UK when the clocks
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go back and you're like the sun's going down, it's
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four o'clock, there's still so much left of the day,
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and now it's miserable and cold outside. So yeah, I'm
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anti I'm anti daylight savings.
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All right, Well, let's we'll form a front and we'll
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take it on because let's go.
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Let's let's get a go fund men. We'll get a
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go fund me sorted. We'll go, we'll go to the
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high courts. We'll get this sorted.
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There we go right on. All right, So your your
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new album that came out last year, the guy that
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earthed all Between track Fall the Bangers, just an amazing
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performance from everyone. But right now we've got Broken Mirror
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or follow up single from Everything Ends, which hit number
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one in the US. We could talk about then a
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little bit, but I want to hear about Broken Mirror.
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What's it about. How did the creation of that song
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come come to be?
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We were we were?
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We came together actually off I think I'm trying to
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remember I got acess earlier on an interview. I'm trying
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to remember whereabouts it came in the right because we
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we wrote over a sort of month together, and it
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all kind of came together around that time, different different
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different moments, different.
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Sparks, and I think it was after we had done
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everything ends we were a really really good spot there.
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We wanted something that was more sort of full band
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vibe with with the sort of melodic attention to detail.
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It was just kind of exploring my voice really, I
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think a bit more on that song, a bit, getting
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a bit more of the emotion in that, a bit
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more of the soul, and yeah, we're really happy with it.
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You know, to to be able to release, you know,
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a fourth single of this record is cool and I
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think it kind of shows so how much room there is,
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you know, to release, to release stuff off of this
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and give it and you know, give the album the
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attention that that people think it deserves, and you know,
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I'm totally happy to continue shedding a light on it.
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You know, we work so hard for it, and it's
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so hard for this record, and it seems to be.
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It's it's our most successful.
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Album we've we've ever released, and at this point in
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our career, you know, we're so happy to have that.
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So yeah, giving people more songs, you know, giving the
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American radio another another banger.
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What's it like to be in the UK? And then
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also like trying to make landfall? I guess here in
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the US the radio because you have been doing this
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now for like over twenty years the band started ages
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right and now in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six,
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really making a big stamp in the US commercial market.
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What's that like?
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It's interesting I think for US, I don't think we
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really realized how big American radio was until sort of
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a couple of years ago. Then we really started to
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sort of understand the like actually what it is, because
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it's just not the same.
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In the UK.
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The UK, there's a few radio stations, but there's no
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like there's charts, but there's charts for like sales, it's
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not for like plays, so for us, it's been really
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cool to kind of meet and being able to say
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thanks to people like yourself that have played those songs,
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because you're really giving our band a shot. In America,
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I think a lot of people find out about their
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new favorite bands through American radio, which I think is
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really cool. I think it's a it's a it's a
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special thing that you guys have, and I wish that
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there was more of it over here. You know, we're
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lucky we have we have some great radio stations, we
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have some great radio programs, but we don't have dedicated,
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really dedicated radio stations. So it's it's really cool, and yeah,
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it's it's a. It's a it's a privilege to to
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you know, be able to have another shot and to
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have a number one rock radio is unbelievable, you know,
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especially when I was like sat in my garden when
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I found out You're like, look it up.
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It's a it's really interesting to see, especially a band
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that in the genre that you are, and like how
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hard and heavy you've been to you not that you've
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with Broken Mirror. I would say you definitely didn't like
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deviate too much for your like current sound to bend
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to the commercial ear, I guess, but to like people
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are like catching up to architects now and you know,
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like you said, like for ages, you've been doing this.
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Now when you come to the US, what's the what
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are the crowds like for you that you're that you know,
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is it turning, is it getting are the bigger, bigger stages,
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what's happening.
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Yeah, we're definitely feeling it happening. It's just all America
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is just like the biggest fucking country in the world.
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You have every every venue that you have has seven
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bands coming through every night. You know, it's it's a
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it's a it's a big beast. Where the UK and
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Europe is obviously very different for US. I mean when
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we play in Manchester and London, we just do like
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seventeen thousand people and then you go over to America
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and you're like, well, this is different, but.
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It's but it's not bad, you know.
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I think for US, I think going over to America
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and doing like three four thousand people feel like that
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in a weird way because it's the same amount of work.
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You know, we've worked so hard to get.
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Those three four thousand people in America that that really
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does feel like a winn, and it feels as important
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as the seventeen thousand cap shows in Manchester, you know,
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because you're like, wow, I never thought we would crack
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a thousand people over here, you know, because because of
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the climate and how hard it is. And you see
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a lot of bands and I don't blame them because
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you know, we've been close before. He's just like, it's
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just not gonna happen, so let's just leave it. Let's
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just save it. Let's just not bother because it's it's.
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A lot of money.
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It costs so much money to get over there and
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to pay for to pay for you know, visas and
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all this sort of stuff. It's a it's a hard
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it's a hard gig. But for us, it's just like
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I love being on tour. I love being away with
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the boys, and you know, I'm very we're all very
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lucky that we're best mates. And I know some bands
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say that, but like we speak every day, you know,
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and we're always hanging out with each other. You know,
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they're the first people a would ternify good news. First
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people are terrified bad news. You know, it's really is
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a family, and we're also so tight, so it's get
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to go away and play and experience new things. At
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the position and the point in our career, it's amazing.
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So yeah, we're gonna keep rocking and keep trying. And
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it's slowly happening, you know, But much like our career,
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the slow nature of it means you enjoy it more
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because you didn't just get it overnight. You had to
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work for it. And I think there's something something really
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special about that.
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I definitely agree. And I think when you go slow,
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it gives you time to consider things, and if you
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go fast, then you might be like, well, we have
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to do it this way, we have to do it
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that way. That's what they want.
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Yeah, you just burn out as well. You're just like
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of coo, I've done it now, so I don't care.
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You know. For us, it's like always the goalposts are
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always moving.
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It's like, well, let's try this, let's do this, let's
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do this, you know, and it always feels special. And yeah,
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I mean if you told me twenty years ago that
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we'd be in this position in America and in the
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rest of the world, I would have snapped your hand
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off for it.
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Well, let's talk about your the ticket that mentality into
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this new record, because I would say, this is got
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to be the most exploratory you've been with your voice,
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and yeah, yeah, well there was obviously a conscious decision.
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What was it that sparked in your brain to be like,
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I want to do everything from sing to got to
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roll blicks.
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Yeah, I just want to just make my life as
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a historian musician a completely pain of the fucking ass.
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I just want I can say it again without swearing
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that much. Period.
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I just thought I would make my life really difficult
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on tour. Do you know it's actually it's been a
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blessing and a curse, and now I really can see
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it as a blessing. I for a while, I really
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lost my confidence with my voice, and I didn't feel
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like I think when you're younger, you're just so full
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of confidence. You're just like, I'm the best. Everyone get
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out of my way. I'm going to do this. I'm
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you know, problem free, and then you reach being an
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adult and you're like, well.
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No one's actually told me that before, so right, I
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need to check myself a little bit. And then you
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check yourself a little bit too hard, and you're like, oh,
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maybe I'm maybe I'm rubbish, maybe.
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I'm like not good, and then you're like, no, there's
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definitely something good here because I've worked this.
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Hard and it just felt like, do you know what,
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I really wanted.
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To put out an album that really I really gave
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the best account of myself and really pushed myself.
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And I think actually working with Jordan was great. He's
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such a great.
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Vocal producer that he really pulled it out of me,
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really pulled the performances out of me, and really pushed me.
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And you know, sometimes I really didn't want it because
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it was knackering. But it's been really great, and I
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think I've got myself to a good spot now where
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I feel like the songs are really a really good
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spot and now I can let in a little bit
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more ferocity into the performances. I think I've been holding
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back a little bit to try and get everything just
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perfect and just but I think now I'm ready to
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sort of let loose a little bit and I think
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I'll be, you know, screaming the house down in America.
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What do you think the injection of bringing Jordan in
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to help produce You said in a previous interview that
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it was very organic. How he came to work with
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you guys and to you know, write and things like that.
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What was the energy that he brought into the studio
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that changed things up.
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I think the best thing about him is he came
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in and he told us what was good about our band.
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And I think when you self produced the last few,
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you can get a bit lost in it and fall
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into the same tricks and you're doing the same things,
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you know. I think it was nice to have, yeah,
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just sort of a producer, work with a producer that
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can make us see see what was special about and
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what was good and also have someone from the outside
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be like, no, that's good. Push with that, push with that,
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let's go there. You know, me and Dan are very
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very great together as producers. We love what we love
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working together. But it was it was an important time,
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I think for our band to have something fresh and.
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New and exciting.
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And Jordan had fallen into it out of bringing me
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the horizon and wasn't and wasn't with them, and it
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just worked. You know, we'd started writing and it just
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he had free time, we had free time. It just
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was like, Okay, let's make this work, you know, Let's
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see how this you know, there's no there's nothing bad
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going to come from this. You know, we we did
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Doomsday together and it was a great moment for our band,
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and we wanted to do stuff again since then, and
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then it it happened, and I'm really glad it did.
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And with the vocal performance and the things that he
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brought out. You also said in an interview that Elegy
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is your favorite song that you've You've done vocally. What
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makes that song so special for you?
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I just love the vocals in it, And I said
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that probably before we started touring it. So when people
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come to the shows, I want you to know that
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I'm going through hell up there.
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are on me. I'm like, here we go. You know,
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it's let's pray to the gods. But no, I love
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that song.
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I think it really it's the best, one of the
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best album in tros we've ever had. It's probably the best.
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Really sets you up for what the album is. It's
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so dramatic and so full.
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you around the face like a building's falling down. You know,
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it's it's I think it's everything that's great about Architects
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in a sort of three minute song.
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lot of the songs were kind of like a Catharsis
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against the critics that the people were, you know, seeing things.
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Does it feel better now that you've gotten all.
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That out, Yeah, yeah, it really does. And I think actually.
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Run one on Prime last night, and I love the
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Beatles and I love McCartney, I always have, but I
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didn't realize how hard he got panned in the seventies
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when he was sort of out of the Beatles and
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hard McCartney won was like people were just straight up
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just taking the mick out of it. And then when
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he went on tour with Wings in America, it was
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like the biggest ever rock tour that had gone through
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the country, and you could just see his energy just
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like I was right, I'm fine, you know, I don't
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care about any critics.
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I'm just like, there's people here that were selling out
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rooms and that's what matters.
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of the things that people said about me and our
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band was horrible at the time, but.
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It makes you stronger.
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It makes you feel like, really, you do love what
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you do, and you do love this band, you know,
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And and I care about him more than anyone could
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ever imagine.
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Anyone that leaves a YouTube comment.
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Or whatever about us, cool, you don't live this, I do,
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you know, And like I bet you I care more
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about the Architects album than you do.
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You know, it is what it is.
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way of doing it in terms of like sort of
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we knew what we were doing. We were prodding them
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in terms of like we know what you want and
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we'll give you it, but at the same time, we're
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going to take the piss out of you.
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down some of those walls that people had sort of
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put up against us, where they were like, oh, they
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get it. They're just a band. They're not trying to
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say in the world. They're just They're just a band,
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and yeah, music should be fun. And I think that's
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a big thing about writing this record is there was
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a lot of laughter and a lot of no matter
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how heavy or emotional bits are, you know, we were
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laughing and having a good time. We were laughing at
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how heavy stuff was. You're laughing at how good it
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takes where and being like wow, this is unbelievable, Like wow,
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and that's and that's what it should be. That sort
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of like energy of excitement. Energy and excitement is what's important.
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you the fear ferocity of it, and then like the
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the videos they put with a lot of war zone stuff,
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which kind of prophetic. I mean, you could have used
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live action stuff at this point we say that for
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the next one there you go, right or retrospective. Yeah,
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but it's a it's amazing visual. But I want to
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talk about this one last thing before we say tutelu,
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and that is you are working on but it looks
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like through your Instagram had becoming a photographer and working
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on honing that skill. What kind of I'm a bit
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of a photographer, I like, you know, doing the concert
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photos and things like that, Yeah, what do you shoot?
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What is your what's your ambitions for that?
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real a point in shoot, just a little point and shoot,
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and I just took it with me to the studio,
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took a bunch of roles of film. Didn't really know
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what I was doing, but I was like determined to
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capture some cool moments I could that I could look
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back on and be like, I took that. You know,
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this is in my scrap book. This is what seeing
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stuff through my eyes? And then I got a buzz
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for it. I knew I wasn't great at the start,
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but I was like, it's.
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I'm enjoying it, and the joy of the joy of
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actually not knowing what you'd taken and then then seeing
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it at the end was amazing.
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But then I went on holiday.
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I went on my honeymoon my wife to Japan two
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or so three years ago, Nilly, and I was like,
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I can't risk some of this stuff with a point
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and shoot. I need something that is I can see
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whether I've got the shot, because I don't know, Maybe
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I won't come back to Japan. I have done since
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and have shot even more photography. But yeah, so I
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got a Fujifilm when I went over there, and I
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just fell in love with it, you know, I was.
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I enjoy it so much. I feel like it makes
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me see wherever I am in a in a different way,
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focused on what's going on, and even if you've not
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got the camera up, you're looking around for the for
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those moments. And it's just it kind of coincided with
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me stopping drinking, and it's really been a really healthy
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habit to get into and to learn something new later
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on in life and to stick to it. I've got
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such crazy ADHD.
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But the fact that I've.
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Managed to stick to this, to this and actually go
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for it has been such a joint.
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And to learn this new thing is so amazing.
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And to actually get so many photo books and look
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at what other things that people create. This endless sources
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of inspiration. But at the moment, I don't I don't
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know where it goes. I'm just saving everything I have.
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I've got a massive folder of things. I don't know
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whether it will be like a book on photography from Japan,
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whether it'll be everything that from behind the scenes of architects,
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whether it'll be just nature, birds and it's it's kind
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of all over the place though, but I will I
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will put something together. But it's just been it's been
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about three years of three four years of learning so
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and not putting it out there and a lot of failures,
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and now there's things that you know, I'm getting proud of.
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So yeah, thanks for bringing it up. I appreciate it.
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Yeah, no problem. I really appreciate seeing the world through
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your creative lenses. And even if it's just like an
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iPhone photo of something of people, like they thought it
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was important enough to take a picture of it and
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they passed it. Like, I think that's just an important
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human thing.
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Yeah, one hundred percent.
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I think have been in a band for however long,
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we had a photographer with us, and it just as
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amazing as it was seeing the photos of us doing
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these things. It's just not the same as when you
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were taking them because it's your memories. You know, that
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moment of seeing it. There's there's something special about that
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and showing people what you're seeing, because I always say
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this is why you know. You can be with a
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bunch of people with cameras, but you're all looking at
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these different different moments. You know, everyone sees something different.
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So yeah, it's it's it's a real joy. I love it.
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Very nice, Sam, Thank you so much for taking some time.
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I'm looking forward to seeing you guys.
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For I.
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Before I started this in or prepared for this interview,
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I was trying to go back. I was like, I
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don't think I've ever seen architects, and that's crazy because
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I've seen like every band. And just this morning my
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cousin came up to me and I was like, hey, man,
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I'm going to talk to Sam from Architects. He's like, oh, dude,
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cool to her twenty ten and I was like, we were,
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oh my god, we did see architects back then, so
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we were babies. That was too. It's gonna be wild.
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You'll be this time. You'll be headlining at the raves,
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so that'll be awesome and.
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Looking come wait. Thank you so much, Bud, you bet dude,
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that was awesome. We appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for
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having me, man.
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I appreciate it of course we'll see you soon.
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Max One buddy, see it the show up you bet
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So we've got Sam Carter here from Architects, and I
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just want to start out and ask you what is
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it like to live in a world where daylight savings
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time does not exist?
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we do yeah, but we have them at different times.
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It's it always does my head in if I'm honest,
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because it just means that your day sort of ends
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about four point thirty in the UK when the clocks
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go back and you're like the sun's going down, it's
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four o'clock, there's still so much left of the day,
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and now it's miserable and cold outside. So yeah, I'm
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anti I'm anti daylight savings.
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All right, Well, let's we'll form a front and we'll
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take it on because let's go.
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Let's let's get a go fund men. We'll get a
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go fund me sorted. We'll go, we'll go to the
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high courts. We'll get this sorted.
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There we go right on. All right, So your your
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new album that came out last year, the guy that
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earthed all Between track Fall the Bangers, just an amazing
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performance from everyone. But right now we've got Broken Mirror
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or follow up single from Everything Ends, which hit number
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one in the US. We could talk about then a
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little bit, but I want to hear about Broken Mirror.
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What's it about. How did the creation of that song
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remember I got acess earlier on an interview. I'm trying
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to remember whereabouts it came in the right because we
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we wrote over a sort of month together, and it
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all kind of came together around that time, different different
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Sparks, and I think it was after we had done
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everything ends we were a really really good spot there.
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vibe with with the sort of melodic attention to detail.
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a bit more of the emotion in that, a bit
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more of the soul, and yeah, we're really happy with it.
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a fourth single of this record is cool and I
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think it kind of shows so how much room there is,
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you know, to release, to release stuff off of this
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and give it and you know, give the album the
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attention that that people think it deserves, and you know,
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so hard for this record, and it seems to be.
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our career, you know, we're so happy to have that.
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American radio another another banger.
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What's it like to be in the UK? And then
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also like trying to make landfall? I guess here in
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the US the radio because you have been doing this
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really making a big stamp in the US commercial market.
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a couple of years ago. Then we really started to
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just save it. Let's just not bother because it's it's.
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lucky that we're best mates. And I know some bands
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they're the first people a would ternify good news. First
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people are terrified bad news. You know, it's really is
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a family, and we're also so tight, so it's get
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to go away and play and experience new things. At
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the position and the point in our career, it's amazing.
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the slow nature of it means you enjoy it more
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because you didn't just get it overnight. You had to
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work for it. And I think there's something something really
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rest of the world, I would have snapped your hand
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this new record, because I would say, this is got
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to be the most exploratory you've been with your voice,
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What was it that sparked in your brain to be like,
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roll blicks.
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a historian musician a completely pain of the fucking ass.
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that much. Period.
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on tour. Do you know it's actually it's been a
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blessing and a curse, and now I really can see
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of confidence. You're just like, I'm the best. Everyone get
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out of my way. I'm going to do this. I'm
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you know, problem free, and then you reach being an
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adult and you're like, well.
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I'm like not good, and then you're like, no, there's
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really pulled the performances out of me, and really pushed me.
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it was knackering. But it's been really great, and I
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in and he told us what was good about our band.
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what was good and also have someone from the outside
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be like, no, that's good. Push with that, push with that,
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let's go there. You know, me and Dan are very
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very great together as producers. We love what we love
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working together. But it was it was an important time,
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the horizon and wasn't and wasn't with them, and it
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just worked. You know, we'd started writing and it just
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he had free time, we had free time. It just
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see how this you know, there's no there's nothing bad
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going to come from this. You know, we we did
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Doomsday together and it was a great moment for our band,
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then it it happened, and I'm really glad it did.
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that probably before we started touring it. So when people
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it's let's pray to the gods. But no, I love
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I think it really it's the best, one of the
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best album in tros we've ever had. It's probably the best.
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lot of the songs were kind of like a Catharsis
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against the critics that the people were, you know, seeing things.
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Beatles and I love McCartney, I always have, but I
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didn't realize how hard he got panned in the seventies
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just taking the mick out of it. And then when
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he went on tour with Wings in America, it was
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the country, and you could just see his energy just
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like I was right, I'm fine, you know, I don't
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of the things that people said about me and our
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band was horrible at the time, but.
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Anyone that leaves a YouTube comment.
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you know, And like I bet you I care more
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about the Architects album than you do.
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in terms of like we know what you want and
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we'll give you it, but at the same time, we're
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put up against us, where they were like, oh, they
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get it. They're just a band. They're not trying to
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say in the world. They're just They're just a band,
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laughing and having a good time. We were laughing at
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how heavy stuff was. You're laughing at how good it
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takes where and being like wow, this is unbelievable, Like wow,
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and that's and that's what it should be. That sort
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of like energy of excitement. Energy and excitement is what's important.
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I think absolutely it is. I mean just like when
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you the fear ferocity of it, and then like the
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the videos they put with a lot of war zone stuff,
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which kind of prophetic. I mean, you could have used
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live action stuff at this point we say that for
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the next one there you go, right or retrospective. Yeah,
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but it's a it's amazing visual. But I want to
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talk about this one last thing before we say tutelu,
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and that is you are working on but it looks
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like through your Instagram had becoming a photographer and working
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on honing that skill. What kind of I'm a bit
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of a photographer, I like, you know, doing the concert
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photos and things like that, Yeah, what do you shoot?
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What is your what's your ambitions for that?
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Do you know what? I start when we're in the studio.
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Just before Classic Symptoms came out, I just got a
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real a point in shoot, just a little point and shoot,
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and I just took it with me to the studio,
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took a bunch of roles of film. Didn't really know
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what I was doing, but I was like determined to
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capture some cool moments I could that I could look
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back on and be like, I took that. You know,
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this is in my scrap book. This is what seeing
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stuff through my eyes? And then I got a buzz
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for it. I knew I wasn't great at the start,
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but I was like, it's.
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A new thing.
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I'm enjoying it, and the joy of the joy of
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actually not knowing what you'd taken and then then seeing
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it at the end was amazing.
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But then I went on holiday.
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I went on my honeymoon my wife to Japan two
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or so three years ago, Nilly, and I was like,
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I can't risk some of this stuff with a point
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and shoot. I need something that is I can see
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whether I've got the shot, because I don't know, Maybe
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I won't come back to Japan. I have done since
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and have shot even more photography. But yeah, so I
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got a Fujifilm when I went over there, and I
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just fell in love with it, you know, I was.
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I enjoy it so much. I feel like it makes
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me see wherever I am in a in a different way,
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Like it's so much more intense. You're you're you're so
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focused on what's going on, and even if you've not
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got the camera up, you're looking around for the for
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those moments. And it's just it kind of coincided with
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me stopping drinking, and it's really been a really healthy
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habit to get into and to learn something new later
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on in life and to stick to it. I've got
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such crazy ADHD.
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But the fact that I've.
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Managed to stick to this, to this and actually go
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for it has been such a joint.
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And to learn this new thing is so amazing.
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And to actually get so many photo books and look
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at what other things that people create. This endless sources
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of inspiration. But at the moment, I don't I don't
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know where it goes. I'm just saving everything I have.
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I've got a massive folder of things. I don't know
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whether it will be like a book on photography from Japan,
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whether it'll be everything that from behind the scenes of architects,
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whether it'll be just nature, birds and it's it's kind
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of all over the place though, but I will I
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will put something together. But it's just been it's been
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about three years of three four years of learning so
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and not putting it out there and a lot of failures,
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and now there's things that you know, I'm getting proud of.
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So yeah, thanks for bringing it up. I appreciate it.
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Yeah, no problem. I really appreciate seeing the world through
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your creative lenses. And even if it's just like an
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iPhone photo of something of people, like they thought it
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was important enough to take a picture of it and
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they passed it. Like, I think that's just an important
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human thing.
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Yeah, one hundred percent.
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I think have been in a band for however long,
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we had a photographer with us, and it just as
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amazing as it was seeing the photos of us doing
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these things. It's just not the same as when you
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were taking them because it's your memories. You know, that
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moment of seeing it. There's there's something special about that
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and showing people what you're seeing, because I always say
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this is why you know. You can be with a
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bunch of people with cameras, but you're all looking at
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these different different moments. You know, everyone sees something different.
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So yeah, it's it's it's a real joy. I love it.
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Very nice, Sam, Thank you so much for taking some time.
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I'm looking forward to seeing you guys.
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For I.
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Before I started this in or prepared for this interview,
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I was trying to go back. I was like, I
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don't think I've ever seen architects, and that's crazy because
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I've seen like every band. And just this morning my
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cousin came up to me and I was like, hey, man,
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I'm going to talk to Sam from Architects. He's like, oh, dude,
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cool to her twenty ten and I was like, we were,
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oh my god, we did see architects back then, so
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we were babies. That was too. It's gonna be wild.
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You'll be this time. You'll be headlining at the raves,
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so that'll be awesome and.
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Looking come wait. Thank you so much, Bud, you bet dude,
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that was awesome. We appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for
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having me, man.
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I appreciate it of course we'll see you soon.
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Max One buddy, see it the show up you bet
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Cheers back up by b
