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D Boys. Welcome to the Deadline Podcast, episode number three
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hundred and thirty three, three three three, twenty thirty three.
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Today we are talking about Lusha Underground, Season one, Episode one,
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first time ever.
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Debut episode of Lucha Underground. Highly requested, I think for
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years now, James the people. Yeah, I've been wanting us
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to do the Lucha Underground and we are tapping into it.
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I watched this when I debuted. James dipped a toe
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in and then very quickly we'll talk about that, why
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and everything surrounding the first episode of Lucha Underground. On
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this very episode.
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Before we get into that, we have the Deadlock updates.
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Oh yes, updates here the Deadlock. Oh here's an update
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for you. Last week on the pod, we did a retro.
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It was the go home show for In Your House
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Burial Live ninety six. It was really good. I had
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a really good time on it. Uh something something must
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have happened last week where nobody saw it. So you
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should go listen to that because it was good.
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You would enjoy it.
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Very well done. We had a good time. So go
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listen to that and then get back to us and
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let us know what you thought. And then listen to
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this one too. Hey. Also just you know, wanted to
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throw this out here too, because I've I've mentioned it
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a few times and I started to thinking about it.
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I was like, oh, I don't want people starting to
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just fucking think maybe I'm fucking for real dying because
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I talked about being on medication and ship the other week.
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So I'm I've been sick for like the better part
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of two months now, which is like why some things
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have been delayed here and there, and you know, it's
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it's all come out obviously, but uh, you know it's
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it's it's been pretty hard, uh, just trying to keep
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up with shit here. And thankfully my buddy here, James,
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will fucking make whatever I need to work work and
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he's always there for me and make sure or that's
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you know, if I if I can get it done,
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I get it done as easy as possible. And uh,
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it's fucking a joy to work with somebody like that
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and have somebody like that in my life. So I
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appreciate you very much, Bud.
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But I would like you to get better.
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Dude, Okay, so that'd be awesome. So I again, I
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just to I just want to let you guys, know,
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because I feel like it's been a minute since I
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fucking have said anything like this. We talked about, you know,
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dead locking in. Well, I've been fucking lifed out. I
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was sick and then I was good, and then I
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got bronchitis which put me down for like two weeks.
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So like if I sounded like shit on the show,
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shout out Beefy for making me not sound like shit
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and taking out a ton of coughs uh. And then
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I was good, and now I have the fucking shingles,
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man like. And when they told me that, I thought
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they were like lying, Like I went to an urgent
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care because I fucking had mad left side of my
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fucking face pain like it just had it felt like
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a headache on my eyebrow. My eyebrow was sens have
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felt like shit. And I was like, okay, I'll get
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this go checked out. They said shingles. I said, no way.
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I'm gonna take whatever they're gonna give me for a
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week and then I'm gonna find out really what I
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have when I go back to ask, hey, I'm still
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in pain. Uh yeah. It turns out super half shingles,
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which causes like a fucking rash on like one side
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of your face, which I'm glad I'm on a camera.
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I was able to get through last episode. Uh nerve
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stuff right, Yeah, yes, it's all nerve connected. So like
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along my eyebrow to my like my eye and my
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jaw on my ear has been unbelievably painful. I've been
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taking fucking like antibiotic pills and eye drops and now
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I'm on a steroid eye drop which makes my eye
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super sensitive to everything. Uh, which sucks so but but
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more getting to the good part of this, I'm okay,
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I'm alive. Everything is cool, and as you can see,
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we are still doing things as normal. But I want
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you all know, yeah, if some stuff is delayed here
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or there, it is my fault. And I apologize. I've
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just been dying. I've been dying and I can't stop dying.
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And hopefully this will be the end of it here
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soon and I'll be okay. But yeah, we're doing We're
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doing our best to keep up with everything we do here.
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James is doing his best to keep me alive. And
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and you know, James has had a adventurous fucking December
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that you know I won't make him go into but
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it has been pretty crazy December into January.
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But trying to send and you know, he'll get you, right.
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Yeah, yeah, he keeps telling me that and then he's
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falling up with he'll kill you, which doesn't I don't
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want to do that. I don't want to die. Sure, well,
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thank you, I'm I'm for your sake, I won't take that, Like,
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what do you do? What do you do?
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If I'm going, I'll go back to work on the docks.
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I guess, well, you're stuck here for a little bit longer,
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but you're stuck here with all of so yeah, so
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that's uh, that's what's going on. So again, I appreciate
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any anybody that had reached out to with any concern,
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but I'm good. But that's that's what's going on. Hey,
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and better news now on the Pagereon pagerean dot com
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slash deadlock pw five dollar above to your new episode
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there's an unbelievablemount of episode to watch this on there. Also,
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I don't know the exact number. I don't remember. We
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may or may not be in record Patreon member numbers
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currently by the way, uh so if you want to
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thousand plus strong on that sucka and you know, make
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sure you sign up you want to catch SGH come
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in this month which is undecided, but there is a
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thread up currently that you can go in the ten
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dollars and above tier to suggest what you want us
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to watch for the month of January. And I've been
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seeing a lot of exciting things here and there, some
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not so exciting. Some I know James doesn't want to do,
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which I'll put on the list to try to wean
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my way in. But sometimes James does that to me
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as well. Uh So, you know, it's a it's a
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battle every month and we'll see with But that's in
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the ten dollars above tier. Also in the ten dollars
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above tier on the Patreon, a new retro sink is
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up by David. It's the WCW Thunder episode from two
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thousand where Horace Hogan's job is on the line against
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Billy Kidman and a match where Eric Bischoff keeps changing
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the stipulations and also if Haulkgan interferes Horace is fired.
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This deck is stacked against Horace Hogan. Remember that legendary
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fucking show with Horace Hogan running down the ramp, So
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relive that one and it's full glory with the retro
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sinc that comes out biweekly. That's on patreon dot com,
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slash Deadlock p W. And last thing here, by the way,
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the Debdies the Debties. Thank you for everyone that put
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in their ballots. We got fucking a lot of ballots
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here that we're gonna have sift through. I think that
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was also a record number of ballots actually this year,
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So thank you all so much. Yeah, thank you for
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getting those in. If the voting isn't up by the
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time this pod is out, it will be up in
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the following week for the voting for the twenty twenty
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five Deadies. So we'll do that. We'll tabulate all the
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votes and we'll get to have thegether that all together,
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and then we will do the Deadis episode of the podcast,
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which is also always very fun. So be on the
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lookout on our socials for that. I'll post it as
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many places as I can, so get that going and
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keep an eye out for.
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That now at a time for the Patreon shout out segment.
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Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my.
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God, starting in the five dollars to your Christopher.
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Charles, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, my.
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Back, my pussy and my dick.
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Yes, classic, that is a classic, fine speech.
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Chase Utley played for the.
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Film Lease Chaseley, Yes, Chase.
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Out Lee played for the Phillies. He used to ask
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organist Paul Richard's son, can you play the walk up
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song for Chase Richard's son?
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Like that sucks because he really pulled on my heartstrings
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and Chase meant a lot Chase Lee. No, that's not
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his fucking name. Damon demon, I'm getting stressed out. I'm
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getting more shingles. You gotta be nice to me now,
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Thanks a lot, Chase.
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Brandon, h MG, Jules Rebel Gaming, Jonah Murphy, Ian Moon Sludge,
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Douglas Blount, Anonymous beef.
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That's our editor, poop, but that's Vampiro on this show.
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Ten dollars dear for to one, straya fuck off fig
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Bradley Parsons, sadistic Bucky Barnes are stupa stan here reminding
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everyone to leave Johnny alone.
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It's not his fault.
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He doesn't know how to read. Fuck you handsome Zach Jack,
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jud Blood, Jarnell Darnell and Tuglis Douglas Jude Blude, Bristo
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and ninety nine are Sandoval and ninety nine?
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What the hell? Tyler L.
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Guappo is bald and has small hands and feet.
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I've seen Tyler Aguappo in person many times. I don't
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know if he has miniair. He has a lot of hairs,
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and I haven't really viewed the hands and feet though.
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Terry Brunt Gold Zippy eighty seven, fucking Bob Rob Dobbah Dan.
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The man Stevens, who let you be the man?
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Burst, Let's go Rams, Let's go forty nine ers? No,
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you let those other two trash ass fraudulent, stinky, freaking
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of flatulence? What the and hepatitis flavored piss?
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Who? Oh? What teams? Is that what he's talking about?
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Why do they call it oven? When you oven the.
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Cold food of alt, hot eat the food rich?
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Oh? I fucking hate this guy. Oh, I hate this guy.
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You know I can see all your emails. You know
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I have that ability to see your fucking emails. Chase, please,
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feeling like.
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David Hasselhoff's bouncing boobies when he turns into the boat
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in the SpongeBob movie, Jace Rich.
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Said, you can't fucking do that. You can't fucking take
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liberties here. Don't you take enough liberties with the fucking pronunciations.
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Fucking motherfucker.
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Colin Puckett Triple J from the c l E. Yeah,
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the real Peter Griffin.
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Oh shit, it's trade Mark.
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This has to be.
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Oh my god, Peter.
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Hey, Peter, feeling like the v initial on Big Van
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Vader's Big Van, Fat Ass. Hey, Donnie Underscore VX, jarm Blard, Jarms,
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Hard Cars.
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Wow, that's like, I mean, peanut butter breath.
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Majen Kit Willson's new theme song on SmackDown got me
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and my homies acting some kind of way in the arena,
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some kind of sexual way.
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Oh, you definitely haven't heard this song. I'm gonna send
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it to you.
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Bud Francisco, I want some on a dick, am I?
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Yeah, just say Francisco, I want some dick in my ass.
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I don't know why you guys gotta play around here.
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Yeah, stop playing that.
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Go it's hard to read.
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Jordan Colliard. I wish this FED thing appreciated me like
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this orange and black thing. Does I hate this fed thing?
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I spit on you.
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Yes, yes, Joseph Reese will speck, Jordan Smith, Von Griggs,
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Caleb Horner, lot too, Hank Nasty lord Head asked the
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fourth why goo Agee?
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Nice, nice Damon Harris Jacat knows that you already know.
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We do.
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We do Umar Khan Baba Toonday.
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Mikey Penisjunior.
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Are you drafting Mikey Penis Madden two thousand and five?
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Come on as an NFL two K five?
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No, I'm sorry, I apologize. I apologize.
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Mikey Penis Tenor sadly is injured and he'll probably want
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to play a down next season. Yeah, he's pretty hurt.
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Bunky's brother Jack Unfocused, Juggler, purified, Kine, Matt Jones, Fire,
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Kevin Patullo, Yaes Sirianni indifferent Cole Slag Grimace, Tommy Dreamer
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gigging himself with a dorito dickhead coleburn want the rest
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of these ps before I throw them at Johnny?
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Don't do that.
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The Panthers and the Eagles won the same amount of
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games in the playoffs.
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Why and one that's not a pro fucking name.
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Uh we you guys won the Super Bowl like we
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were eight and nine like the Panthers. We almost beat
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the MVP. You know what, we'll talk about it here
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in a minute. Here we go, Jack Mickus, if you
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smell what the cock is cookie, come y'all can fly
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and pound your ways to the off season. Rams.
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That's not happening. Are you out of your mind? What
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like that's insane? Wow? Ok?
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Yeah, dighead rees Allen Jones. Yeah, I still got Knucklehead
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on DVD from when I was a kid.
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By the way, if you all listen to this and
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you don't watch football, and you're even if like you
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have to pick a side, by the way, so like
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you know this, this this show is introducing you to football,
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then you have to pick up Panthers or Eagles. And
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that's kind of it.
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If you don't live in the United States. A lot
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of people live overseas and they're listening to this.
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Basically, you follow along, especially, oh especially, get ready. Baseball
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season's coming up. We're about to go. Yeah, We're about
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to fucking have a fun fucking baseball season. So pick
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a team. Don't pick the Braves, pick the Phillies, please.
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Yeah, teams. You shouldn't pick Eagles for football, Phillies Mets
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for baseball. Uh, not the fucking Rams.
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I'll tell you that New York team we can agree on.
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Don't pick that.
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Yeah, do not pick. Do not pick the Pats, you
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know from football.
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Come on, dude, maybe you can pick the Red So if.
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You weren't there for prime era Tom Brady, you can't
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pick the Pats.
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It's just being prime era. Drake May. Yeah.
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Hey, we'll see about that. When Michael Penis Junior comes
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back and starts doing anything.
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Drake Drake May May is talking about to like do
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some business here. We'll get into it.
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We'll get well, actually, you know what the Falcons are
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in my division, So you know what Michael penis doing.
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You can stay out for just a little bit longer,
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you know, how about a couple more seasons. We'll figure
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it out from there, Graham Martin, zero Inferno, Charles Key,
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ce Ron's Skylark, Gregor.
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And Derson Oh shit, and her Son.
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Oh my god, that's it again, Claire Grindle, ghost Way
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Great twelve dollars tier, cooder Man sixty nine doesn't exist,
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fourteen dollars fifty cent tier Sir Beakington and Travis Johnson.
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Just pay fifty cents more, fifteen.
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Dollars tier rain Maker Pose, Joseph de Petro, Lee Chicken,
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Tika Massala, Yeah, which is regular? Wow? I was expecting Massala.
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Has that been a name on here?
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Oh?
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Jack Duca Massawa?
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I think it has to be, And if not, there's
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gonna be three of them next week.
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One hundred and twenty dollars annual Genetic Freakazoid Matthew kloh
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and still the Patreon Champion of the World has sixty
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nine and sixty nine. Oh yes, Sour Smarties is asking
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if y'all want to form a griftball team.
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Have you changed your mind on that last week? You
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were no sure thing? Oh, there we go. Fucking things
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are already picking in twenty I won't be a part
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of any of that. I won't be a part of
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any of that, but I will.
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Part of catching the balls deep either. Thank you guys
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for listening, everybody. We're gonna get to the show.
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Now.
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Let's talk about the Patriot Q and A. All right
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now it is time for the Patreon Q and A segment.
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Question and answers, Question and answers. Do you hear this guy?
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Is that like I was trying something new? How does
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that feel?
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Yeah? No, that's cool man. You have the question, answers
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and the answers.
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That's what we get here. Yeah, yeah, I don't want
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to do it this week, so you do it.
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Short thing starting off here. First question we have here
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from the Patreon is from fuck Kevin Petullo's how you
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say that?
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That's yeah, that's yes. Really from now on i've heard both,
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so I actually, to be honest, I don't.
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Know, fuck Kevin Petullo and just fuck Kevin in general,
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like just seriously, man, seriously.
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We also Sirianni.
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That's okay. I mean maybe not as much he's you know,
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he's doing. You know, he got us to a lot
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of playoffs, like five of them. There was five of
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them he got him to.
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Yeah, I saw him arguing with a J Brown after
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he dropped every single pass that came his way that
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entire playoff game.
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I think a lot of people wanted to argue with A. J. Brown.
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I actually got right up to my TV and I
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started yelling at him.
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He saw Sirianni fucking running a forty yard dash down
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the sideline. He said, I'm joining in.
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Yeah, man, I just started head button my fucking big
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screen TV and then singles.
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I started head butting my little screen TV.
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Thank you for Yeah. I was watching that game. Yeah,
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I know you were. It was frustrating a ship because
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you're a fucking you just jumped from team to team
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every fucking time, well every time it's somebody self in possession,
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you just jump back and forth. And it was fucking
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pissing me on.
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All right, Well here's the deal, uh. I like the
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forty nine Ers, you know, like I was a forty
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nine Ers fan growing up because my dad was a
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forty nine Ers fan growing up, because they grew up
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in a time where the Panthers weren't a team yet.
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So like that was like a deal.
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You know.
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Now I'm a Panthers fan because the Panthers exist, and
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when I was growing up, the Panthers were a thing, understanda.
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But I also love for the forty nine ers. I
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also rooted for the Eagles though.
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Yeah, but like it wasn't like it wasn't real, Like
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that was like there was something I wish I could remember.
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There was one thing he said that Like I put
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my phone down for like five minutes after because I
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was like, fuck this guy man, like he's telling me
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we're listening.
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Also, I have no idea what the question was. Next question,
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I don't Mimister asked if w c W had signed
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Amish Roadkill, how many episodes of Nitro would we currently
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be on.
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Well, so they had two hundred and eighty eight episodes.
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I think they would have if Amish Roadkill was signed,
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it would have ended at two hundred and fifty episodes.
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Yeah, I mean I think what it really came down to,
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because they definitely offered him big money, was that Oh
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you know, yeah, I've known that for a while.
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Yeah, sorry, this is well, you know, you give me
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the questions and the answers.
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Yeah, well here's the deal with that man, Amish Roadkill.
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You know, he came up in the house of hardcore,
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so he was pretty much locked down you.
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Know, guy's got a lot of money from them, like
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Mikey went Bradko Yeah, historic bags.
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Oh not right, Yeah, Chris Chetty was offered a lot
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until he blew out his legs.
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So yeah, that was a big deal back then. I
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can't well remember that road So Roadkill you're saying got
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a big This is like you're breaking some news here.
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Roadkill got a big money deal from w CW. Turned
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it down. Then East W and w CW both died
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and he just never got a job on TV. Again. Well,
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he did the heart attack in a dark match, right,
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which sacrilege.
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Yeah, yeah, it sucks that every team ever in ww
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F history does the heart attack, I guess attack.
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Yeah. So you're saying w c W would still be
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alive if Amish Roadkill was signed there.
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I'm I mean, look at it.
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I mean I think that uh I'm looking.
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Yeah, I think TBS, T and T would be impressed
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by what w c W thinks to the table.
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It's just the entire merger wouldn't have happened.
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Brad Seger would say, wait, I have an idea.
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Wow, yeah, really that's like a tew thing waiting happened.
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Like I want to see that.
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Yeah, I mean Amish roadkill leading a new segment of
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the nWo would have been pretty sweet. The Amished edi.
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If we were we're in w Amish.
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Pretty cool.
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I mean there's something, there's something to it, you know what.
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I'm I'm I might, I might be with you.
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Our next question comes from PS two humping the xbox.
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He says, I welcome the day with a show of light.
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I stealthily came here in the night. I bade the
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earthy stuff at dawn, but by noon, alas I'm gone.
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Who am I?
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Well?
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Thankfully this was answered by one of the other patrons,
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two tone Moonstone, who said, you're a Mark brother and
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that's there for that question.
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Damn wow, the fucking Q and a answer asked and
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answered on the pagetraon that might be a fund first.
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Next question here is from saying yeah, after every three
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syllable word, who do you think should bring the leather
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faced gimmick to American wrestling?
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Like, so it's already established that we all collectively think
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this is a good idea. Yeah, right right, okay, yes, hmmm,
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I'm thinking uh, I'm thinking King Barrett.
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What about ww's Fernando thoughts.
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We we've really been tapped into the roster for some
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reason lately. Uh and those are like two guys that
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stand out and uh Tatanka, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
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that's those are pretty good.
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If I had to give a better answer, like if we.
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Had if I literally had to pick this.
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If we had to make it work, right, and we
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had to pick somebody, and like we were like, we
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have the outfit, we have the we have the chainsaw
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with the sparks, we got everything, and we're gonna make
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this work. I think, yeah, I think that I would
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give it to Jake Something.
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Okay, I was thinking something, which is pretty fucked up.
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Yeah, I think he would work. He would have to
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work twice because I would still like him to be
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Jake Something.
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But we're getting like our boys getting paid double, you know.
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I mean that's kind of how old school wrestling worked anyways, right,
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Like you'd have five people and you'd somehow have you know,
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eight wrestlers on the show. Is because some of these
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guys go backstage, they put a mask on, they come
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back out of somebody else. I think that would work fantastically.
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Like when you bring back this character, it's not so
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much how his matches actually were, because most people that
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know this character don't know how his matches actually were.
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All they know is that he was a crazy fucking
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character chainsaw, and like their brain tells them that he
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was doing the most insane shit ever. So yeah, I'd
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have Jake go out there fucking power bomb outside of
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the ring, spinning, fucking sit out, oh my god, super bomb,
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you know, just come up with the craziest things you
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could do and then get the chainsaw and rev it
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up crazy or like people would be like there he is, like,
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come out and do the chainsaw over the head thing,
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you know.
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Just give it to trying to think of yeah, I
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mean like in terms of yeah, like the theatrics of it,
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Jake would be fucking fantastic at that. I'm trying to
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think if there's anybody else that like would fit that,
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even just body type wise like that, you know, if
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you were looking for like a true one to one
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or anything. But I don't damn, Jake was legit who
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I was thinking of. I don't know if there's anybody
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else that would be as good if we wanted like
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pretty sweet, Yeah, there's some you know people we probably
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just put anybody in there.
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Jake would be able to get the man or rhythms.
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That's the thing.
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I don't know. The other name that came to mind
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was bear Bronson. I think, Okay, ye kind of fits
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like he kind of fits the build, like he does
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all that fun you know, he you know, if this
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is deathmatch leather face, right, he'll go full bore on
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that ship, like you know, he'll and he you know,
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like I said, he kind of has the build and
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he's kind of he can be frantic. So yeah, Barre
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Bronson probably would be. If I'm not picking Jake, if
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00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.480
I'm picking the death match guy, then bear Bronson. I think.
484
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.160
If we're not picking Jake or Bear Bronson, maybe.
485
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:44.359
Jim Ross, w w D, maybe Dammy missed.
486
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.640
We have another question here from retro shot. He asks,
487
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.839
this question is for Johnny, what is your favorite fire
488
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.240
Pro game? I heard you have built quite the collection
489
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:55.920
in Japan.
490
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.359
I okay, thank, I mean god, I didn't know that
491
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.160
this has taken on a life of its own. Yeah,
492
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.160
I do have. I do have quite a wrestling game collection,
493
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.039
and the trips to Japan have fucking I mean only
494
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.880
tripled it. Really the first year I went I'm pretty
495
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.960
sure I bought im not joking thirty five games home.
496
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.920
I mean we walked in those stores and uh you
497
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.400
can hell yeah, I guess no one's heard like the
498
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.440
account of somebody that's been with me going video game
499
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.599
hunting here that I buy stuff. Well, you do the
500
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.559
first sweep initially, where you just kind of look around
501
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.160
see if you can catch any pro wrestling stuff. Then
502
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.160
you do the second part of it, whereas everyone gets.
503
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.680
Involved, which like is super nice. By the way, I
504
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.240
don't like once in a while I'll say hey, like,
505
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.359
have you seen anything, but like eventually if it's me,
506
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.119
you sprite. I think last time we went, like Jake
507
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:57.559
was looking domb like yeah, coup, Like, I think everybody
508
00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:59.559
would kind of got involved, where it's like, okay, we
509
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.319
all need to see what wrestling games exist here, which
510
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.079
is super helpful.
511
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.720
Yeah, so that's the second sweep. Third sweep is walking
512
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.839
up to the cashier with the Google Translate and asking
513
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.880
if they have any pro wrestling games.
514
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.440
That's like Desperate Mode, which was a few on the
515
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.279
last one, which works. By the way, they're not offended
516
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.400
by the law. It's not like you're bothering them and
517
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.960
like they usually know, like you know, if most because
518
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.400
most you know, wrestling games in Japan will just have
519
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.480
wrestling in the title. So at the very least, if
520
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.559
they don't know it by I or you know, they
521
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.319
know that it came in, like they can look it
522
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.319
up on the computer. So that shit super fucking helpful.
523
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.680
But yes, that is that is pretty much exactly what
524
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.759
it is. I God, I it looks like I have
525
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.200
I own maybe ten to twelve different fire Pro games.
526
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.759
That doesn't mean I've played all these though, Like a
527
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.279
lot of shit I own, I actually still haven't touched.
528
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.000
But the most the fire Pro games that I played
529
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.279
the most are Returns and World, and I'd probably say
530
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.400
one of those two are are my favorite. World might
531
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.519
just get the edge just because I mean, good lord,
532
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.359
World has everything. World does everything, especially if you have
533
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.480
all the DC like and you have it on Steam, Like,
534
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.559
what an endless amount of just life that game has.
535
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.799
Like I could boot this game up tomorrow and it
536
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.960
turned it into an entirely different game if I wanted to.
537
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.440
It's fucking fun. Returns has a special place in my
538
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.200
heart just because I remember getting it. I didn't know
539
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.160
it was released in America. I remember getting I'm pretty
540
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:34.920
sure it was like twenty or thirty bucks at game stop.
541
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.599
I remember, yeah, No, it was fucking awesome. And I
542
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:44.039
remember learning how to like put saves onto a USB
543
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:45.640
and putting it into my PS two so I could
544
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.920
have like just a fucking unreal indie roster on it.
545
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:49.519
At the time.
546
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:51.720
That was probably super cool back then.
547
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.119
Dude, this was five, I want to say, or six
548
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:56.720
something like that.
549
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.279
I didn't play any Fire Pro games growing up, not
550
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.480
even Returns. No, I wasn't like a fire prop at all.
551
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:09.599
I did play, uh, the Xbox Arcade Fire Pro.
552
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.240
Okay, I played that as well as adult.
553
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.920
That ship was as I mean, that was a little
554
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.759
Avatar gold.
555
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.119
Yes, I had the gold. It was like, oh cool,
556
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.920
I'm playing as like a wrestler in this. I still
557
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.880
have all those Yeah, I do too. I don't understand
558
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.599
how that was made or why, or like what that
559
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.759
was about. That's like the furthest thing from a fire
560
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:31.240
Pro game.
561
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.240
Ever, I can understand why they went for it. To
562
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.839
understand it, you truly have to look at it. The
563
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.119
Xbox Arcade was unfucking real.
564
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.359
It was sick.
565
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.960
I mean it was so huge then, so like trying
566
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.240
to release something in that manner was a great idea.
567
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.119
It just yeah, it was just tough.
568
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.559
But of all the things like yeah, the fire Provice,
569
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.759
oh my god, wow, when you play your first fire Pro.
570
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.119
Then whenever that came out, world, Uh no, the fire Pro.
571
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.599
Was the first one. I oh oh, I mean, like
572
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.599
I sorry, like after that, like when.
573
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.480
Did you like if you don't count that one?
574
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:17.400
Yeah yeah yeah, world, wow, no shit. Yeah. So it's
575
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.319
it's well, you took to it pretty well though, so
576
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:20.519
that's good. Oh.
577
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.000
I loved it. I thought it was super cool. I uh,
578
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.839
funny enough. I I you know, I see a lot
579
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.160
of people that also like maybe that's the first fire
580
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.920
Pro gam and they don't quite understand it. But I
581
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.319
never had that problem. Like I understood exactly what they
582
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.400
were going for right away.
583
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:35.559
Yeah, and it's like this is.
584
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.160
Fucking sweet, Like I can create and do I guess
585
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.319
maybe because like when we were growing up, we had
586
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.480
to put more imagination into the games. So like, I
587
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.240
don't see it as super face value as that I
588
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.119
can kind of in my head, it's a little more expansive,
589
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.079
I guess if that's a good way to put it.
590
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:55.680
So I kind of clicked with.
591
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.960
Fire Pro right away. I never had a problem with that,
592
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.839
but I have heard people are, you know, if they
593
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:02.839
have to take the games at like straight face value,
594
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:04.240
they have trouble with fire Pro Am.
595
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.400
Yeah, I mean if you've only played we games forever, right,
596
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.279
or like that's the only thing you really like, like
597
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.079
especially simulation style, like yeah, just yeah, I mean like
598
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.720
it's so fucking fine, Like it's so it's funny. I've
599
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.319
been seeing them pop up on my TikTok lately. Uh,
600
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.519
just like fire Pro World propaganda videos are like, yeah,
601
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.599
this game is the best fucking game ever. I'm like, oh,
602
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:30.680
holy shit, maybe it is. I want to play this again. Yes, yeah,
603
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.759
I love the fire programs. There's, like I said, there's
604
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.319
so many that I haven't touched that I I do
605
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.880
want to. But if i'm if I'm picking, I'm fire
606
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.759
Pro World is is fucking the perfect fire Pro game
607
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.880
for me. Yeah.
608
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.480
I've put a ton of hours in the world, man, like.
609
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.519
We gotta play I kind of.
610
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.359
I mean, even when we're not creating content, Like there's
611
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.079
so many times where just chilling just have Fire Pro up,
612
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:52.960
just fucking playing.
613
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:55.799
We did that, Like I don't remember when that was,
614
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.400
but that was like, uh, it might have been before
615
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.400
Roger or Visportez was broke for us and we were
616
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.359
like doing that in the DPW ring and fire thro.
617
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.960
Yeah, there was actually you know, I guess we can
618
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:09.960
pull the curtain back a little bit here.
619
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:10.960
Sure.
620
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.159
But with DPW initially, like when we were first setting up,
621
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.360
like how we want like the ring and everything to
622
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.800
look no joke, like, went into Photoshop, created the assets,
623
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.880
loaded it into fire Pro World, put it on the ring. Yeah,
624
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.039
and then we said, yep, this is the one.
625
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.440
I remember I was at I remember I was at
626
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.800
Deb's parents house on my laptop and we were talking
627
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.239
about it and you were like, man, like, how should
628
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:41.800
this look? And I don't. It was one of our
629
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.880
ideas that said what would like what does this look
630
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.360
like in fire Pro? And then you just booted up
631
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.239
and like did it? And we were like, ah, I
632
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.800
think I do think there was a couple of changes
633
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:51.639
we made too, because I was.
634
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:56.079
Like, yeah, we tried a couple of different mats, yeah,
635
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:01.800
turn buckles, we tried all orange tropes, yeah, all orange, and.
636
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.039
Then ultimately yeah, so like the first DPW ring before
637
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.559
it came to existence, before we put any orders.
638
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:14.199
Was the fire Fro Creation, which is fucking pretty cool. Yeah, no, yeah,
639
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:15.800
and then we just kind of ran a bunch of
640
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.800
matches in it, like it just became like our default
641
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.880
fucking round offline ring. And we have one more question
642
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.519
here from Pickles.
643
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.639
Sorry, I just love saying that words.
644
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:40.079
No, I just love saying pickles. Pickles asks, what are
645
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.199
your favorite current bands?
646
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:51.239
Slayer like fucking I don't know, Ozzy Osbourne.
647
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.199
I mean, here's the deal, Like Park, we're in our thirties.
648
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880
You know, we're in our thirties. The music we listen
649
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.639
to is just the music that we listened to.
650
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:03.440
When we were young.
651
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.920
Again true, I mean I have some favorite current bands.
652
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.760
I mean, if you really thought about it, I bet
653
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:09.760
you could figure out some.
654
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.800
Bet I mean, wish I listened to a lot now
655
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.559
they're like, yeah, there you go. There's one knock Loose
656
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.760
I've been you know. Yeah, knock Loose is a great
657
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.119
when I listen to them too. Who else do I
658
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:20.880
funk with? Let me say, I'm I'm trying to actually
659
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:26.679
look through my uh my fucking because there's some I do.
660
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.519
Yeah, if you go to on repeat, you can probably
661
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:35.079
find some bands or something that like maybe you uh.
662
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.760
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot that's even the thing. Well,
663
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.199
there's some old bands I like that, Like AFI has
664
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.000
been doing some stuff that I actually like. There's still
665
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:48.119
I've done recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're still dope. Those
666
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.719
are the three that I probably. I mean, Ghost obviously,
667
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.199
that's fucking you know good Lord of course.
668
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:54.800
Yeah you're super into Ghost.
669
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.119
Yeah, I mean I I you know, I could uh,
670
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.320
I could give or take their the album they came
671
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.119
out with last, but you know there's I still still
672
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.159
like them. Sure, yeah, what about you? Who else do you?
673
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:07.400
Maybe there's something that we have.
674
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.400
Yeah, I've been listening to Heart to Gold a lot recently.
675
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.719
Locke Shut is another band that I've been listening to
676
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.039
a lot recently. Tiger's Jaw has a new album coming out.
677
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.519
I'm excited for that. Oh yeah, Dying Wish, Knock Loose
678
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.920
like you said, or bands now listen to pretty regularly.
679
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.840
Guilt Trip is a good band. Oh I like Guilt Trip,
680
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.480
yeah as much as.
681
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.800
I like this. Oh you've you've told me about them? Yeah?
682
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:35.639
Yeah, they have some I think they're recording a new
683
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.159
album now or or doing something like that. So Hot
684
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920
Mulligan's new stuff is good. They make Kyle Fletcher's theme song.
685
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.360
Dad likes Hot Mulligan. I just got her like Hot
686
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.039
Mulligan merch for Christmas. She just got into them heavy.
687
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.800
So that's I heard them a bit too. Yeah.
688
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:50.440
Yeah, I've been listening to them for a minute. I
689
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.480
was surprised they were the band that broke through. Uh.
690
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.159
And it's just I think it's the same deal with
691
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.400
knock Loose. Like when I was listening to Hot Mulligan,
692
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.559
a big hang up for like a lot of people
693
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.960
at the time was like this guy sounds fucking just different,
694
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.000
Like he just sounds sure, not like a band that
695
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.840
would break through to like a mainstream audience. But they did,
696
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:11.599
you know. And like, I don't know if there's been
697
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:13.559
a band as hot as Hot Mulligan since, like the
698
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.000
story so far, broke through when I.
699
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.559
Was in high school. No, I don't think so. Yeah,
700
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.400
like they they get like radio radio play, right.
701
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.239
Yeah, they're doing super well, which is awesome to see.
702
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.000
Do this funny there was a band it just showed up.
703
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.800
I was doing like a fucking Spotify like radio game
704
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.320
or whatever, and H two O showed up. But I
705
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:33.960
was like, oh this, I know I've heard of this
706
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.800
fucking man, like a buddy of mine, my buddy Dan,
707
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.679
like would tell me about them all the time. Okay,
708
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.239
I'll listen. There's stuff I'm like, oh, this is dope,
709
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.840
Like one of the last time they did anything. Okay, man,
710
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.519
that's been like almost ten years.
711
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.920
Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean with music ten years
712
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.039
is still active, you know. But yeah, knock Loose was
713
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.559
the same way as Hot Mulligan. Like I remember when
714
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.360
I first started listening to Knock Loose, you know, the
715
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.880
big hang up for everybody too was like the lead
716
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.920
singer of this band sounds crazy like this, that's like
717
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:07.920
this won't work.
718
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.480
And then that's another band that I heard of, dude,
719
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.239
oh my god, unbelievably working. And like that's a band
720
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.559
I heard of forever ago too, from my fucking buddy Dan,
721
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.400
my buddy Dan, and you actually probably have a lot
722
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:23.760
of Yeah, he's like a you know, New Jersey hardcore guy,
723
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.119
so like that's you know, I'm sure it's pretty close
724
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.199
to all the ship you like. But yeah, he was
725
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.280
talking to me, tell me about them forever ago, and
726
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.880
like then we saw him, I was like, oh, this
727
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.199
is Okay, this makes sense. I like this, Who's who's
728
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:46.960
playing in Japan when we're and right, yes, that's it was, yeah,
729
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:47.800
which is pretty cool.
730
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.320
And that's all the questions we got. Thank you guys,
731
00:39:51.320 --> 00:40:02.960
so much unbelievable. All right, let us get into the
732
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:08.039
very first episode of the very first season of Lucha Underground.
733
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:09.440
I was going to try to do like this, you know,
734
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.320
I usually say a song here, but they only are
735
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:18.599
known for the bumper sound burn b yeah, which I
736
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:19.920
don't even know if it's a sound that they use
737
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.199
on this first episode. I don't know if that's established yet.
738
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.280
It's like a different I think I heard it at
739
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.840
the very beginning okay, yeah, at the very beginning of
740
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:32.320
the show. Right, it does go right into that very beginning.
741
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:37.639
Burn, which sets the stage for what we come to
742
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.039
expect it for Luca Underground. Just whatever. All the time,
743
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:47.000
this has been actually a highly requested retro, and I
744
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.119
think maybe we avoided it because it made me feel
745
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:57.199
old because this is twenty fourteen we're talking about here,
746
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.039
and I was like, wow, okay, like, I guess that
747
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.360
isn't kind of the area because we've done twenty fourteen teen.
748
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.239
A's so like, I guess it's fair play, but it
749
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.840
just feels wrong because I watched this. I watched this
750
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.920
when it aired, so I feel just like an old
751
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.599
piece of shit. Well, let's talk about what was going
752
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.960
on in the world wrestling time with the Wrestling Observer newsletter.
753
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.800
I'm gonna do it a little different. I did this
754
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.280
for XWF, so if you've listened to those, it's kind
755
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.440
of like that. I'm gonna go kind of over a
756
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.639
time period here of just the Observer talking about the
757
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.239
formation of Lucha Underground, what it was gonna like. You know,
758
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.119
the first idea is that YadA YadA, YadA, kind of
759
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.239
just the dripped news feed of what we were looking
760
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.000
at the time, just to get an idea of what
761
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.480
things were looking like going into this first episode. So
762
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.920
from The Observer. January twentieth, twenty fourteen. The official announcement
763
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.000
of Triple A's attempt to break into the US market
764
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.159
and a television deal with the new l Ray Network. Yeah,
765
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.320
came over the weekend when Scott Sasa L Ray Networks
766
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.760
vice chairman, made the announcement on January twelfth at a
767
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.320
press tour. I'm at the point in my career where
768
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.639
I could probably try anything, said Burnett at the announcement.
769
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.760
Burnett is god afrigat.
770
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.480
I don't know why, don't even executive producer.
771
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.039
Is that what it was? I think that's right. Yeah.
772
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.639
I forget his first name here, I had it written down,
773
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.400
but he he's done a lot of stuff. He did
774
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.679
he like produced like Survivor and a lot of popular shows.
775
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.480
So I think, uh, he's like pretty much saying here
776
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.800
like I can do whatever, and I wanted to try wrestling,
777
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.480
which I thought was pretty cool.
778
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.360
Yeah, I mean, this is definitely an interesting take on it.
779
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.480
You can kind of feel right away that there's a
780
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.199
big vision here for what this should be.
781
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.760
Yeah, he says, uh, why wouldn't you bring Mexico's number
782
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.920
two sport to America? This is a long term, big
783
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:41.559
play for us. And also they said besides the weekly
784
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.719
television show, there would be a variety of major wrestling
785
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.960
TV specials on the station, which they did do like
786
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.440
Ultimate Luca and Shure like that, as well story lines
787
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.360
building around building two pay per V shows, which I
788
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.000
don't I don't think they did pay per view if
789
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.280
I'm not mistaken. Okay, it's always just like a big
790
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:56.880
special one.
791
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.239
I guess in twenty fourteen, at the time pay per
792
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.360
views were tough. A lot of people were trying Ie
793
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:05.360
pay per views was on the horizon, sh'll go live.
794
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.880
Yeah it was not working.
795
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.920
No, yeah, it was awful.
796
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.280
Uh you know fuck yeah, I mean, god damn, I'll
797
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.079
never forget the Wrestle Kingdom on Fight just unbelievably bad,
798
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:20.679
to the point.
799
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.360
Where it was funded everybody. I mean even at the
800
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.519
same time. Yeah, go what would it go? Was it
801
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:27.880
go fight live? That was the other one, right?
802
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:28.159
Yeah?
803
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:29.400
I think was that the one?
804
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:30.679
Yeah that's right.
805
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.920
Yeah, that was fucking bad. Like that killed r O
806
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:34.679
H for a minute.
807
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.880
Yeah, I mean New Japan was streaming on U stream.
808
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.719
I do you guys even.
809
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.079
My god? Yeah, dude, the first stream I ever did
810
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.000
was on U stream.
811
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.920
Yeah, I mean people would get the U stream and
812
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.400
then restream it ad justin TV just because you stream
813
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:50.960
is so fun.
814
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.599
Yeah. Now just says The television show will be built
815
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:56.800
around a storyline where they will introduce five baby face
816
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.519
stars to build the American brand around. The idea is
817
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.400
the wrestlers have discovered that there is a plot to
818
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.880
destroy Lucha Libre and somehow because they knew too much.
819
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.840
The powers that be have exiled them to the United States.
820
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.000
That kind of changes, It does change, yeah, yeah, and
821
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.280
some more of like the Aztec tribe kind of thing
822
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.519
where they're all kind of coming together. But so that's
823
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.199
that's the first like press release about Luca Underground. Doesn't
824
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.639
have a name yet. It's just a Triple A product
825
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.760
that the l RAY Network is bringing to America. So
826
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.559
that's January of twenty fourteen. Then the next time we
827
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.159
hear about it is July twenty first, twenty fourteen. The
828
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.159
Observer says the l RAY Network announced on seven to
829
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.159
nine at the Television Critics Association Press Junket that they
830
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.559
would be airing a one hour Wednesday night show starting
831
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:47.119
on October eighth. The show is tentatively easy for me
832
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.280
to say, titled Lucha Uprising and would feature the stars
833
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.559
of Triple A and be produced by Mark Burnett of
834
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:56.800
Survivor Fang. There we go, Mark Burnett. They only announced
835
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.199
there would be eight episodes for the first season, so
836
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.840
they're not treating a traditional wrestling show with a weekly commitment,
837
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.239
but more like a seasonal reality show. No word on
838
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.280
when the first taping will take place past the point.
839
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.519
The date has been changed at least once, so this
840
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:13.880
date does change, doesn't air October eighth. But Lucha Uprising
841
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.559
was the first name of this fucking show, not Luca Underground.
842
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.320
Yeah, Luca Underground is great branding, especially with the temple
843
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.840
that they end up using and the things that they
844
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.840
do here in La I believe is where they're filming
845
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.320
all this stuff, that's right. So yeah, I mean the
846
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.800
biggest strength of Lucha Underground was its branding and its feeling.
847
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.360
I think that that's what most people remember from this show,
848
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.079
is like the very unique setting and the very unique
849
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.159
items and branding the feel to bring to the table.
850
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.880
Yeah, and that's, uh, you know, that was a big
851
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.000
part of this. I mean, that's it seemed like that
852
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.320
was the vision from the start that they were going
853
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.119
to try to do like a television show instead of
854
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.920
just like a wrestling show, which doesn't always work.
855
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.400
But super interesting, but yeah, it doesn't work a lot.
856
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.760
So here's the next part. Next time we hear about
857
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.679
Lucha Uprising from The Observer August twenty fifth, twenty fourteen,
858
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.320
So jumping a little closer to debut here, Meltzer says,
859
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.119
as things stand right now. They'll be doing TV tapings
860
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.679
for the l RAY Network on September sixth and September
861
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.440
seventh from a sound stage studio warehouse in Boyle Heights,
862
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.360
a part of Los Angeles. The scheduled debut on the
863
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.079
l RAY Network is on October eighth, in a Wednesday
864
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.599
night time slot. From the little bits that have come out,
865
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.599
the idea from the money and the production people at
866
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.599
l RAY is to do something completely different from any
867
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.639
pro wrestling or Lucha libre. There are two writers working
868
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.679
on the season, one of whom has never worked in wrestling,
869
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.239
and the other is Christopher to Joseph, who spent years
870
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.400
in w as a writer and also played the character
871
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:52.760
Big Dick Judson. Oh Wow, yes though with the Sandman
872
00:46:52.880 --> 00:47:02.440
guy Yeah, oiled up, oiled up for Lucha Libre, which
873
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:03.880
somehow doesn't make it on the show.
874
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.800
I don't think they had him at the Junket.
875
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.559
He was. He was doing the Singapore Cane spot at
876
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.440
the Junket with the l RAY team.
877
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.760
And a big part of our upcoming Luca Uprising.
878
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:18.199
The show.
879
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:26.199
Big Dick just said, all right, we're gonna call it
880
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.480
Luca Underground. This guy is not coming within one hundred.
881
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.920
Yards in kick this guy's fucking ass, actually chade him outside.
882
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:34.840
Yeah, I want take him back there, take the oil
883
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.039
off of them, and then beat.
884
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.840
The pow wow things. James has never said take the
885
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:39.559
oil off that.
886
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.559
We need the oil. Just take the oil, beat this
887
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.840
guy to death of the ammers.
888
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:48.920
Melzer says it will not be like Triple A Wrestling
889
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.719
in Mexico, but we'll use some of the stars of
890
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.400
Triple A along with p tw BG stars. Names that
891
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.559
we've heard confirmed from the show include Ricky Reyes, Joey Ryan,
892
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:04.440
Chavo Grower, Junior That's What's Wrong, Sean Hanna Gone aka
893
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:05.960
John Morrison.
894
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.880
Stars, Ricky Rayes, Joey Ryan, shav Ger her name.
895
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.159
Yeah Phoenix, and John Hennegan. Also don't forget if our
896
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.519
Berto del Rio can get his non compete overturned, he'll
897
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.760
likely be pushes the big star fairly quick. Dude.
898
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.360
I am so glad the show wasn't whatever.
899
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.599
This was. Wow, This like was really scary at the
900
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:29.079
start here.
901
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:33.000
Huh Yeah, I mean we see Ricky rays on this show.
902
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.440
Listen, mad respect for Ricky Reyes, but how the hell
903
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.239
is he the first.
904
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.320
Ricky Reyez? I mean, if there's one thing Ricky Rayez
905
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.679
is gonna do, it's find a fucking job in wrestling.
906
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.639
He's getting bunked.
907
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.199
Ye, He's gonna get a fucking job in wrestling. Like
908
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.360
that's like all wrestling is is like literally your ability
909
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.320
to be booked. So uh, Ricky ray As was very
910
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:55.760
good at that.
911
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.320
Yeah. From The Observer, September one, twenty fourteen. A month
912
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.960
later here. The long talked about debut of pro wrestling
913
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.280
on the fledgling l Ray network was officially announced in
914
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.719
a press release by the network on August twenty seventh,
915
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.440
with the first television taping taking place on September six
916
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.360
at a studio and Boil Heights. Mark Burnett's one to
917
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.480
three Media Yeah, which has produced such as The Survivor
918
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.519
of the Voice and Celebrity Apprentice, will be behind the
919
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.119
project that is going to be called Luca Undergrounds. So
920
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.159
now we finally have a name change here. I wonder.
921
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.159
I think luc Undergrounds is way better name, by the way,
922
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.719
But I wonder what made them change it up.
923
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:36.199
I think because the show probably changed a little bitity yeah, right, Like,
924
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.599
how can we present what the show is going to
925
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.840
be like to the audience and Uprising definitely doesn't really
926
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.079
follow the same branding rules as Underground would for sure.
927
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.239
The decision was made a tape in a small area
928
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.400
as opposed to a major arena in Mexico or the
929
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.760
Southwest in an attempt to create the kind of atmosphere
930
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.719
that PBG shows in the area have generated. So that's
931
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.199
you know, gritty and small building. I mean, that's no ac.
932
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.039
The guy that runs in hates everyone there.
933
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:03.920
Well, there's a little bit to say about that, jails
934
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:09.639
because from the Observer September eighth, twenty fourteen, it might
935
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.199
actually be one of these next ones, but there is
936
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.000
talk of the actual place that they run here being
937
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.480
not that great. Aside from website listings, some online tweets
938
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.519
and posts and flyers on the cars of those who
939
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.000
attended the p TOBG shows over the weekend in Rosita,
940
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.480
and some posted signs in the area, there doesn't seem
941
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.559
to be much publicity for the weekend tapings. There are
942
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.960
a lot of complaints going around regarding the contracts offered
943
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.239
as well. The wording of the contracts includes exclusivity for
944
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.440
seven television seasons, which scares people regarding how long seven
945
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.440
seasons could be given. It could be and probably means
946
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.039
seven years if this first off.
947
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:50.760
Yeah, seven years for seven seasons is already super optimistic.
948
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.280
I mean, look at the way television is produced today,
949
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.920
seven seasons would legit take fifteen years. I'm not fucking.
950
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.639
Kidding, dude, I mean it would legit. This last this
951
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.280
last what four years? I guess they get four years
952
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.000
out of force, you know, four seasons, but like you know,
953
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:09.159
I can't.
954
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.559
I don't know who knows, dude, pandemic hits. The way
955
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.920
TV is produced has changed forever. They would be locked
956
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.280
into these contracts to this to this.
957
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.960
Day, they would have been on the Brett Hart deal.
958
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.000
Like it would have been horrible. I remember, yeah, the
959
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.559
breakdown on these contracts because a lot of guys were
960
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.159
signed to these long term deals and like the business
961
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.800
had changed so much over that time, and people so
962
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.519
quick begging to get out of these loocha underground contracts
963
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.280
just beg.
964
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:46.239
Yes, well, I mean especially once AW pops up, right, yeah, like,
965
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.559
oh my god, you know NXT's popping off. Aw's fucking
966
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.960
coming around the corner. Like these guys. Ricochet is stuck
967
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:55.840
in a seven year deal. I remember that being a
968
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.639
big fucking deal all the time, like him trying to
969
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.760
get out of that. There were a few other people
970
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.360
that were, like, you know, Brian Cage I think might
971
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.920
have been one of those. Yeah, you know, because tn
972
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.360
A is still doing shit too, you know, TENA is
973
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.719
always fucking doing something. They you know, people were trying
974
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.360
to go this, that and the other. And seven years
975
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.239
is that's I mean Stone Cold wasn't even on top
976
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:18.480
for seven years.
977
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:22.480
Yeah, I mean every era you've ever liked in wrestling
978
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:23.960
probably didn't last seven years.
979
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:24.360
Uh.
980
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.079
You know, it's just like when you look at it
981
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.239
and you break it down, like in twenty fourteen specifically,
982
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.480
it probably seemed okay, you know, like, yeah, I don't
983
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.039
really know what the landscape of wrestling looks like. It
984
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.119
doesn't look like it's gonna get much better for the
985
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.039
guys that are in ROH or doing PWG. You know,
986
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.840
like maybe one or two guys makes it to WWE,
987
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.679
but that's kind of always been the case. Yeah, I mean,
988
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.559
in the next few years, I mean it is literally
989
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:55.719
a max It is literally a mass exodus of indie
990
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.639
guys two big companies. Yeah, right, And you make a
991
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:03.239
good point. Wait, aw comes around. I mean they're signing
992
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.000
anyone that's available at that point.
993
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.039
Holy, I mean, dude, especially if you work in California.
994
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.559
Uh yeah. So Meltzer says if this goes nowhere, but
995
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:14.320
saysn't exist as much of the talent doesn't want their
996
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.880
careers paralyzed or to make a commitment that pretty much
997
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.079
well kills their dreams of going we for so many years.
998
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.599
On August twenty nine, five number of wrestlers offered contracts
999
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:25.760
were told that it was a now a take it
1000
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.119
or leave its situation and told they had a deadline
1001
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:33.360
of September second to sign or their roles would be recasted. Yeah. Man,
1002
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.559
I mean that's also so there's a name specifically that
1003
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.079
we I mentioned here in that other one, Hernandez. No, well,
1004
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.559
I mean, dude, oh my god, the rock showed up
1005
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.519
would have done wonders for everybody. Fuck the contracts.
1006
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.000
Yeah, you have six days to sign this fucking contract
1007
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.920
or we're recasting your role to Ricky Reyaz.
1008
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.440
And it'll be a way better rock than you or Bud.
1009
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.039
So Hernandez does go to Luca Underground, but it's not
1010
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.440
like he was supposed to be on this like first
1011
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:09.920
turn of it, and I don't know.
1012
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:14.000
What hernandez entire second part of his career is him
1013
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.480
being fucked up in these contract deals.
1014
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:17.960
Yeah, that's fun.
1015
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.159
I mean, good lord, the Lucha Underground deal and then
1016
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.480
what kind of deal he had with TNA, Yeah, the
1017
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.480
TNA deal. Yeah, good lord. There was just so much
1018
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:27.960
going on.
1019
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.639
Yeah, he always was kind of going through it. But
1020
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.440
I like Hernandez. I kind of wish he would have
1021
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:34.079
been on this early.
1022
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:38.360
I loved the first half of Hernandez's career, oh my god, Like,
1023
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.920
I absolutely adore it. I think it's one of the
1024
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.280
best like tag runs that TNA ever had for anyone ever.
1025
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.960
I don't know if he was ever able to recapture
1026
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.920
that lightning in a bottle that him and Homicide.
1027
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.760
Had Homicide, Yeah, yeah, I mean.
1028
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.960
How many guys even get to have that lightning at
1029
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:55.599
a bottle, you.
1030
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.239
Know, right, Like Lax will be remembered forever as like
1031
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.280
the best tag team of that time, which is crazy
1032
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.960
because there was a lot of great tag teams, and.
1033
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:09.800
Yeah, had a good gaggle of tag that's a good word.
1034
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:16.000
I like that. A couple more things here as we
1035
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.760
round out, going into the debut here from The Observer
1036
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.960
September fifteenth, twenty fourteen, So the show has been taped.
1037
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.039
The first show was taped in a largely empty studio
1038
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:29.719
with a few wrestling fans at most extras, maybe one
1039
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.360
hundred people in total, who were mostly hired to be
1040
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.280
studio audiences at television shows and were being paid nine
1041
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.800
dollars to act as fans, but in a building with
1042
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.960
no air conditioning and them having no emotional attachment, they
1043
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.599
just sat there. For the most part, there weren't even
1044
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.400
enough to come close to filling the building. Aside from
1045
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.320
wrestling websites and social media, the only word regarding tickets
1046
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.800
was flyers put on cars at the PDBG Battle of
1047
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:56.840
Los Angeles shows the previous week. Dude, Okay, before I
1048
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:03.199
continue starting a show, a wrestling show seemingly in the
1049
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:08.480
vicinity of PWG a week after the Battle of Los Angeles,
1050
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.320
like you're fuck dude.
1051
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.159
You know I was gonna talk about it later in
1052
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.119
this show, But I also just want to remind you
1053
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.840
this is Roddy on Top era PWG. This is the
1054
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:24.039
champs here, Roddy erawg uh, I mean, this is an
1055
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:27.760
unreal time for them. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe the
1056
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:32.000
idea here is like they're trying to capture that same deal.
1057
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.119
I mean, PWG was so fucking hot at this point,
1058
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:38.320
I mean untouchable. Yeah, I like it's hard to explain
1059
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.559
if you weren't like just kind of caught up in
1060
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.719
that deal there. But like they were so high and
1061
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.320
it was just a fucking once a month indie running
1062
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.920
in LA and yeah, it was just so unbelievable, and
1063
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.239
like the deal is. I think they saw that and
1064
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.880
they're like, you know, maybe we can try to I mean,
1065
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.239
it's what they read here and there a ways was
1066
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.280
you know, they saw that and they were like, let's
1067
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.760
try to like capture that same feeling here. It's just
1068
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.639
hard to do. I mean, like there's only one PWG man.
1069
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.159
I mean, dude, I'm coming out coming out of twenty
1070
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.239
fourteen Bowler and I come outside and on my car
1071
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.840
there's a picture of Traval Guerrero. I'm fucking double stomping
1072
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:21.119
by Winchild. Dude, I mean, yeah, the fucking yeah, I'm
1073
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:22.960
in a POBG show. The only P two BG guy
1074
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.880
you got on this flyers Joey Ryan, I'm stopping by
1075
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.639
fucking Witch with the fucking away from me. I'm showing
1076
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.119
it to the Super Dragon. He's fucking kicking my windshielding
1077
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.800
now too, Like we're both really mad.
1078
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:36.039
Dude, I cannot believe that Super Dragon was not a
1079
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.159
part of this fucking deal. I mean, I know by
1080
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:41.440
that point Super Dragon was kind of semi retired, he
1081
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.639
just wanted to dowg But I mean, would have been
1082
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:49.280
a fucking vibe. Yeah, what if it was Ricky Reya's
1083
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:53.440
little cholo and Super Dragon. That would have been fucking nuts.
1084
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.440
And they come in and they stomp dude shoot style
1085
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:56.639
in the middle of this fucking.
1086
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.679
Ring, even if he was just their boss, Like, holy shit,
1087
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.320
it's super Dragon and he's in the masking dude fingers, Yeah, what.
1088
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.920
If it was What if it was super Dragon? Ricky
1089
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.280
rays a little cello and they beat them, but then
1090
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.639
they learn, oh my god, they were actually a part
1091
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:11.719
of a bigger deal.
1092
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:17.239
I mean nuts, dude, Yeah, And like, why the fuck not? Right,
1093
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.239
Like they just invent dudes on this show. They could
1094
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.000
even if you don't know Super Dragon, this is a
1095
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.360
fucking like a show show. They could just make. Oh
1096
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:29.039
my god, super Dragon, everyone knows him. I'm equato fucking
1097
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:31.800
oh my god, the fucking my answers has talked about
1098
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.840
this guy dude, right, Like for.
1099
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.440
The fans who know who Super Dragon is, they'd be like,
1100
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.840
oh shit, this is super crazy. Like what I'm looking
1101
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:39.239
at this is.
1102
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.679
Super super Dragon? Why super crazy? Not here? Yes?
1103
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.719
Right, okay? What if they took down Super Dragon and
1104
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.760
then they go to a guy that's even higher than
1105
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.440
him and it's super crazy?
1106
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.480
Fucking shit, Oh my god, oh my god.
1107
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.280
These are the questions they keep you up at night.
1108
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.119
And then finally at the top of the fucking food
1109
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:04.480
Champon's super Eric.
1110
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.199
He's locked in for a twenty year deal in Lucia Underground.
1111
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:12.280
He's in seven.
1112
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.480
Guys. I hate to tell you, but I'm never leaving
1113
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.599
this place, and neither are you.
1114
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.239
Ah. That's how it ends the season.
1115
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.480
What what, what really should have happened is they should
1116
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.880
have started with Blue Daymon and Chavo. Blue Daymon uh
1117
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.000
Pole drives him straight off the apron to the floor,
1118
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.079
and then Super Dragon walks out and Curb stomps him
1119
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:43.159
into the concrete and then Blue Super Dragon dap up
1120
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:44.679
like Dylan and Arnold.
1121
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:55.320
And Sean has both of them in the hot tub
1122
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:56.400
on YouTube next week.
1123
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:03.480
Anyways, fucking Curbs Thompson the daft up right, it pans out,
1124
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:09.440
give me the long shot and here's Deshawn's two cents
1125
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.800
with Conan and the hot tub. So tell me about
1126
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:16.400
this Prince Puma guy.
1127
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.119
Wow. I mean, like guys in a tome machine could
1128
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:25.480
have really did something here, you know, like this is
1129
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.480
what does scene needed, not fucking Chopper.
1130
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.239
I mean, I'm fired up just at the thought of
1131
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.760
Blue Damon and super dragging dapping the fuck up, Like
1132
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:37.840
that's the first thing.
1133
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.519
You see on the show that would be I mean, Natalie,
1134
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:42.280
doesn't happen.
1135
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:52.159
Doesn't happen today, yell, oh shit Dragon, He's just there,
1136
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.840
he stands up out of the crowd.
1137
01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.880
Sho. I do by the way, that there was the
1138
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.119
first person that they considered for commentary. Please just I'm
1139
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.760
sure you know it's every company ever has considered this
1140
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:15.000
guy for the commentary. Who good Old Jr? Oh my god, really,
1141
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:25.559
oh my god, my god, oh shit. Meltzer says there
1142
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.760
were virtually no Hispanic fans at the first show, but
1143
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.880
Blue Daimon Jr. And Dorian Rowland on Twitter promoted the
1144
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.039
second night of the tapings and gave the address, just
1145
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.880
telling fans to show up. Blue Daimon Junior posted addresses
1146
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:43.800
show the fuck up, bitch if you dare. There was
1147
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.119
a part here I didn't include, but there was a
1148
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.199
bit of a so I guess Chavo and Conan were
1149
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.920
two of the agents, and uh, Chalvo was telling him
1150
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.440
to do a more WB style and to slow it
1151
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:56.920
down and not to do a bunch of shit, and
1152
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:58.400
Conan was saying, you guys got to do P two
1153
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.639
BG shit and go crazy, right.
1154
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:07.800
I mean twenty fourteen, like I was, I swear to god,
1155
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:09.880
I was super I was just super jaded. I wanted
1156
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.400
Big Bomb wrestling. Of course, I didn't want anything that
1157
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.760
resembled WWE at the time. Oh and like, while I
1158
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.559
can understand maybe where child is going from, I would
1159
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.199
never say I want you to wrestle more like the WWE.
1160
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.320
I think the better way to say it was, maybe,
1161
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.320
you know, we figure out how to like do some
1162
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.280
different shit differently, right. I would never ever start a
1163
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.039
conversation with let's wrestle like the WWE.
1164
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.679
Especially a division guy.
1165
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.639
Yeah, I think there's just a lot of negative connotation
1166
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.719
that comes with that. I I mean, like, if I
1167
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.000
look at it earnestly. I understand what he was trying
1168
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:45.880
to say, but I all.
1169
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.360
Sure, of course it's not just.
1170
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.760
Yeah, I just recoil when I hear wrestle like the WWE,
1171
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.960
it just sounds like just shit it up tonight for me, fellas.
1172
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.840
Yeah, just take it easy tonight, right, Yeah, And which
1173
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.840
is not I don't it's it's not what he meant.
1174
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.199
It's not what he meant, but it's like break.
1175
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.519
That's the connotation though.
1176
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.920
Because like for the longest time it was like I'm
1177
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:15.519
so fucking sick of hearing yeah right, yeah, right, like
1178
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:17.320
I don't want this ship to.
1179
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.320
Be w W e h if if you want to put
1180
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:20.800
it that way.
1181
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.039
Yeah, So it's like a natural.
1182
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:25.039
Started doing that. It made me mad.
1183
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.920
Like anytime I heard it, I was like, oh, fuck
1184
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.599
this guy, you know, like fuck you, yes, the fuck
1185
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.239
out of the business, you know, Like it was just yeah,
1186
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.400
it was just like at the time, like I think
1187
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.639
I was just I was super jaded.
1188
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:39.760
I was young.
1189
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:43.559
I had a lot of fucking spite in me, like yeah,
1190
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.719
and I was ready to see the fucking next generation
1191
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.320
of wrestling. I had already seen the ship they were
1192
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:49.880
doing at w W you know, I was like, fuck,
1193
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:54.039
I'm sick of this, Like I was, yeah, right, So
1194
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:57.760
definitely the right call. From what I understand. Luca Underground
1195
01:03:57.800 --> 01:03:59.880
changes quite a bit in season two and season three
1196
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.559
percent I never got a season two or season.
1197
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.320
Three even season one, to be honest with.
1198
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.159
You, Yeah, maybe, you know, I've only seen so many
1199
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episodes of this, so I would be interested maybe one
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01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.920
day as we make our way through Lucha Underground to
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01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:13.679
see more of this, because I know a lot of
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01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:17.599
people hold this in high regard and like, at some level,
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01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.280
I am kind of said that I never gave it
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01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.599
the lighted day back then because I think I probably
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01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.800
would have had a lot of like good memories of it.
1206
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:27.719
Well, we watch matches on the fucking Patreon, right, and
1207
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.360
there's no context, and then you watch a full show,
1208
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:30.880
it's like, Okay, this is way different.
1209
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.639
Right, yeah, right, Wrestling in a vacuum is way different
1210
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:34.920
than wrestling in the greater picture.
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01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.480
Right, last thing here before we get into this episode
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01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:41.039
from The Observer November seventeenth, twenty fourteen. So I was
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01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:42.800
trying to find the rating for this first show. I
1214
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.559
didn't see that he said anything about it, but he
1215
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.039
does say lu Underground on eleven to five to twenty
1216
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:51.000
nine thousand viewers, up from about twenty thousand the week before.
1217
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.320
So I'm guessing you know, they had like around twenty
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01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.360
thousand for the first show, which, you know, I don't
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01:04:58.360 --> 01:04:59.880
know what the l Ray network was doing at the
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time time, but.
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01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:02.800
I don't think it was a lot. I think that
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was not.
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Yeah, I think it was considered it was either the
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01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.760
first or second show for the network that week. So
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01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.000
you know, that's obviously was doing well enough that the
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01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:12.360
last four seasons.
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01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.880
Yeah, the Lray network was definitely not pulling in a
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01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.679
huge numbers. It wasn't in a lot of homes. I
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01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:17.719
didn't get it at the time.
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No, I how the fuck did I?
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01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.679
Dude, you have to remember too, at the time, wow, wow, uh,
1232
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.920
like cable networks, people were still people still had TV.
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01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:29.639
Like we were just.
1234
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.519
Coming out the side of streaming. I mean, we're still
1235
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.480
trying to figure out I pay per views in twenty fourteen.
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01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:35.880
Oh my god. Yeah, Like it's not it's not there yet.
1237
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.840
Like WW network just starts twenty four I have.
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01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.639
I was living in an apartment with my buddy and
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01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:43.880
a girl I knew from high school.
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01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:48.599
At the time and U okay, direct TV, maybe Time Warlable.
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01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:53.320
We had Time Warner Cable. Oh shit, oh my god,
1242
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.159
we had Time Warner Cable. And I didn't get the
1243
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.000
LRA network, so like I would just have to you know,
1244
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.639
I knew how to get online, but like we didn't
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01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:01.480
have that channel.
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01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.840
Sure, which is nuts. We had all the channels, we
1247
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:07.440
just didn't have that channel. Well you should have called
1248
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:10.599
and said, I want the LRY network. I'm complaining because
1249
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.360
Java was on it.
1250
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:14.880
I want the RA network and I want Javo off
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01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:15.320
the show.
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01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:21.800
We'll get on that. I was definitely I've definitely had
1253
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:24.679
the LRA network because whatever my dad super legally had
1254
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:25.480
at the time, had.
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01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:33.639
It, ah, right, right, whatever variation of whatever service the time,
1256
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:37.960
was definitely getting the LRA network and somehow also channels
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01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:39.039
in Canada and England.
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01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.000
He had that fire stick before the fire stick, Well.
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01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:45.599
That is it for the observers, Just so you know,
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I don't you know, I don't know how much lu I.
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01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.760
Hopefully we'll do some leuch underground in the future, but
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01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.199
I figured, you know, this is the yeah, yeah, and
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01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.119
not many debut episodes we have left in the vault
1264
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.840
here so figured get of a little refresherrow leading up
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01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.239
to it. But now let's talk about Luca Underground Season one,
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01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:09.679
episode one tape September sixth, twenty fourteenth, aired October twenty ninth,
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twenty fourteenth.
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01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:21.000
All right, let's get into Lucia Underground Season one, episode one,
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01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.440
The start of a new world. Here in professional wrestling,
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01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.360
we start with the cold open. A dude is fighting
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01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.360
two other dudes and the numbers game is just too much.
1272
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:35.199
I mean, this is already classic wrestling.
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01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.599
Dudes are kicking ass here. There's a dude in a
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01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.679
hoodie and he's fighting some dudes. There's a Superman punch
1275
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:46.159
thrown until Hoodie Man they get the numbers on them
1276
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.599
and they start stomping his ass out. I mean, Hoodie
1277
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:54.559
Man as fucked until Mask Man shows up and Mask
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01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:56.800
Man is here to fucking help Hoodi Man out and
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01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.519
he's kicking some ass and does it tilt the world
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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.880
head scissors and a shoot arm drag and then shoot
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01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.840
Wade Barretts.
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01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:04.519
Finish airplanes spin into wasteland.
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01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:10.159
Yeah, I mean, this is uh, you know, they're they're
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01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.440
they're starting off by by showing us, hey, this is
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01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:15.559
the world that we live in or you know this,
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01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:17.800
Luca is real here.
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01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.199
The Luca door then puts his hand out to the
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01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:24.600
guy on the ground and he says, come with me.
1289
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:29.119
Oh shit, his mouth didn't move. That was fucking awesome.
1290
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.680
He said it through his brain. That's how we do
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01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.399
it here. It's one of the Aztec tribes. Brain tribe.
1292
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:37.159
Yeah, so the Aztec warriors are a big deal in
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01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.239
this show. It's pretty much the basis for Lucha Libra
1294
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.399
in Luca Underground, which is pretty much where they kind
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01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:46.600
of go with every character.
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01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.600
Yeah, everyone kind of comes from an ancient ancestor of
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01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:56.279
an Aztec empire, and there's seven tribes. That's the idea here,
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seven tribes of their ancestors and the warriors that built
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01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.319
that Aztec empire and the legacy that left behind. And
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01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:05.119
they asked the guy in the the guy in the
1301
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.520
masks asked the guy in the hoodie, what do you
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01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:13.880
know about Lucia Lebray young Blood checks them immediately, uh,
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01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.279
And he says, for one hundred years, Luca has honored
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01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.399
the ancient traditions of combat, and now it has our
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01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.920
turned to rise. Which I wonder if that was like
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01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.960
a line from the initial name Luca uprising.
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01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.640
They just kept it in oh maybe yeah, which is yeah.
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01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.520
Yeah yeah. Then we see Dario Quato's introduction. He is
1309
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:36.239
the boss in charge here el hefe. So I watched
1310
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:38.439
this when it aired, but I didn't realize that they
1311
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:40.439
did a whole thing here with Triple A, like Dario
1312
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:43.760
was at a Triple A show. I guess unless this
1313
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.399
was just taped for this and this that didn't have crowd,
1314
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.039
but they made it seem like it did. Where Dario
1315
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:51.560
Cuato says he's opening the doors to his temple to
1316
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:54.079
all of the Triple A Luca doors and he showed
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01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:56.560
up and he wanted them to compete in America and
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01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.960
he tells presumably the guy in charge of dude, Okay,
1319
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.920
they're fucking not thrilled. It didn't seem like and they
1320
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:08.279
he tells presumably the owner of Triple A to sign
1321
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:10.439
this contract and then walk away with all this money.
1322
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:12.760
And there's a bunch of money and the dude just
1323
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.000
signs it, and I'm like, oh fuck, does this dude
1324
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:18.840
just comes in and says, give me all your dudes,
1325
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.800
and he says yes. Uh. Then we get a shot
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of the temple for the first time we see the
1327
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:26.239
inside of it. And then uh, Prince Puma comes out
1328
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.319
of a cave much like Jesus. I'm not sure if
1329
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.000
that's what they were trying to imply there.
1330
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.159
And Blue Damon Jr. Was making the walk.
1331
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.359
Oh yes, and the mask guy asked hoodie guy if
1332
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.399
he'll join them, and they shake hands.
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01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:45.000
So we get the Luca Underground quick intro. Then we
1334
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start the show off. We have a crowd shot. I'm sorry,
1335
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:50.199
not a crowd shot. It's more of a city shot here,
1336
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.039
which is kind of how every show. What was the
1337
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:57.439
show that, uh that was super popular when we were
1338
01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:58.840
growing up, the O Seed.
1339
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.359
Do you remember the O C I do remember the OC.
1340
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:07.640
The OC loved doing the overhead city shot into wherever
1341
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.319
the guys and girls were talking.
1342
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:15.800
They loved what was the song California be.
1343
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.000
Just like Bud Come on.
1344
01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:23.319
It's not that fu song?
1345
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:23.800
Right?
1346
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:24.319
Okay?
1347
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.199
Well, it starts off with the city shot reminiscent of
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01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:32.199
all of our yes, all of our favorite shows growing
1349
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:37.800
all of us in Jersey Shore, right. I gotta show
1350
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.479
the Farris Wheel and everything, right, So it shows all
1351
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.039
that stuff. It even gives us the classic long exposure
1352
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:46.520
shot of the cars going down the street with the lights.
1353
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.439
I love that the lights and.
1354
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:53.319
It gives us all the executive producers because they do
1355
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.600
not shy away from telling you this is a produced
1356
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:56.760
wrestling TV shot.
1357
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.880
Right which is you know, is I'm okay with that
1358
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.920
when it's presented that way. I don't like when it's
1359
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.640
a mixture. I don't like T and A did that
1360
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:08.439
for a bit where they were kind of mixing, like
1361
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:12.079
they actually became faux Lucha Underground when luc Underground died,
1362
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:14.000
but they were doing like a mixture of like this
1363
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:15.119
is wrestling.
1364
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.199
And then you're right, they did.
1365
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.720
Yeah, and like Penta was there and Phoenix was there
1366
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.960
and like did a lot of that. Ran the kid
1367
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:34.039
over Eddie Kingston king and I think, I think, I
1368
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.760
want to say, I mean, you could easily say Rosemary
1369
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:43.720
killed somebody that like probably Lucasaurs died in both companies.
1370
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.319
I think, wow, how about that? Yeah, they killed him
1371
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:47.600
a lot.
1372
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.680
Regardless, Uh, we we get the executive producer stuff here
1373
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.479
to uh to start the show, and then of course
1374
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:57.840
the shot eventually pans around the city until it gets
1375
01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:01.880
to the Luca Underground sign, which is above the Temple
1376
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:07.119
Temple which is I believe a warehouse in La So
1377
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:13.359
it's like correct, it's Quato's temple was the way he does.
1378
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:15.319
I think it's supposed to be like a tongue in
1379
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:18.479
cheek thing. But this is a very legendary sign. I mean,
1380
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.399
this is I mean, whenever I see someone talk about
1381
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.439
Luca Underground, it's usually a picture accompanied by this fucking sign.
1382
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.960
Yeah, they had a big banner above the temple I thought,
1383
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.760
I mean, cool as fuck. I mean, like, like I
1384
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.319
mentioned the Observer, supposedly this was not very fun to
1385
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:37.479
be inside of, but it did have the gritty underground
1386
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.640
feel for a show called Luke Underground, like this is
1387
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:42.119
probably exactly where they should be.
1388
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.840
Yeah, we pan into the building. I mean, the crowd
1389
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.880
is standing up, they're cheering, there's a band playing. Matt
1390
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.239
Striker and Vampiro are here. They're the commentators for Luca Underground,
1391
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:55.159
which sounds insane, I mean when you say it now
1392
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.079
in twenty twenty six, Matt Striker and Vampiro are the commentators.
1393
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:03.840
And Matt Striker was obviously released by WWE I believe,
1394
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.199
I think that's what happened. And then, like you know,
1395
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.000
he was always known as a guy that he loved
1396
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.800
wrestling and like he was passionate about it, and I
1397
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:14.119
don't know, at some point it I ended up not
1398
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.439
liking it. But I remember the early season the Lutonic Ground.
1399
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:18.199
I was like, Okay, this guy like gives a fuck
1400
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.359
about this, and like the way he kind of gives
1401
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:22.199
inside here. There's something he says later in the main event.
1402
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:24.159
I was like, Okay, that's cool, Like I kind of
1403
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.119
like what he's doing in Vampiro, Like there's still obviously,
1404
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.239
like this is show one, they're still trying to like
1405
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.319
get their footing with each other. There's a lot of
1406
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:35.039
edits on the show in general. But I was like, okay,
1407
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.960
like I could see this fucking working out.
1408
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.920
They got to figure out the mic levels, dude.
1409
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.399
I mean, Vampiro's eating his mic. Matt Striker, you know,
1410
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.760
Matt Striker worked awe, so I think he fucking got
1411
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.359
it and his is fine, but like Vampiro is eating
1412
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:52.960
his mic. Then they have a camera on them on
1413
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.960
the table that's like blown out shit, Like I don't
1414
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:56.960
even know why they used it.
1415
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.079
I like the camera reminds me of the UFC camera
1416
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:04.520
when it shows Rogan and DC and stuff. Oh, it's
1417
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:07.079
not supposed to be as high quality as the rest.
1418
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:09.600
It's supposed to be like an inside shot, like check
1419
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:10.279
this out.
1420
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.920
As bright as fucked it is. It is.
1421
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.399
Yeah, the levels are nuts, but yeah, Vampiro, I mean
1422
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:19.520
pretty much throughout the whole show is pretty much peaking
1423
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.000
as Mike to the point in the name that like
1424
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:25.720
it peaks so loud it cuts them off, dude.
1425
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.600
I mean, there's definitely some stuff they retape with them
1426
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.079
because this lines are getting garbled.
1427
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:33.680
Yeah, that sucks. And I know, like that's like one
1428
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:37.800
of those deals where like after you're finished because you
1429
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:38.800
just can't save.
1430
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:40.840
That, you just can't say and.
1431
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.479
You don't know, right, and so you're like, oh, man,
1432
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.239
I did not know that the levels were this fucked.
1433
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:48.359
Maybe it was a deal. Maybe it's a deal where
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01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:49.920
they wanted to be. It's supposed to be like an
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01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.560
underground deal and maybe like it's supposed to be gritty
1436
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.319
and like we don't care about audio levels here, We're
1437
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.520
just here to bring the excitement to you. That was
1438
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:03.880
kind of deals or you know, the deal was fuck,
1439
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:05.239
the levels were not set.
1440
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:09.720
We're forgetting that, I I mean, and to defend them,
1441
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:13.640
which you know, they obviously had a much much, much, much,
1442
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.199
much much much larger budget than we ever even got
1443
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.479
to blink at. But doing if you know, any kind
1444
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:25.640
of audio stuff at all at a live event is
1445
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.720
fucking hard. It's like, you'll, it's so hard. Yeah, it's
1446
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.720
I mean, James spent years trying to figure it out,
1447
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:38.079
and you know we still weren't always exactly.
1448
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:40.760
Every show, I was learning something new to like improve
1449
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:41.760
the audio.
1450
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.000
And even then, yeah, like so like, you know, for
1451
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.640
the commentary thing, it's like, yeah, well, you know, they
1452
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.560
should have tested it, testing it before the show and
1453
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.319
test like what's happening when you have a crowd and
1454
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.359
a ring and all this shit going on, and the
1455
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:57.159
levels of the fucking guys on the mic before and
1456
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:02.680
during the show are night and a completely different yep yep.
1457
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:06.199
So like I you know again, but they do have
1458
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:08.560
a much bigger budget than we ever did, Like you know,
1459
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.359
they sure gets the level it does. It probably doesn't
1460
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.000
last more than fucking a show or two. Really, Yeah,
1461
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.399
when they show Matt Striker and Vampio commentary, Vampio does
1462
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:23.880
the all the way down, all the way down.
1463
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.920
So we start with the Dario Quota town Hall Uh,
1464
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.279
he comes into the ring here, and uh, Vampiro explains
1465
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:35.600
to us that he's not Mexican, He's Spanish, so people
1466
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.600
don't like him. That's why they.
1467
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:41.840
I mean, this all was like to me. So Dario
1468
01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.159
comes in the ring like you said, and Matt Schreker says, Vampire,
1469
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:45.640
what do you know about him? Because I don't really
1470
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.840
know nothing about this guy? Okay, you guys like all right,
1471
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:51.239
like I you know, I'm suspending, disbelieve you guys fucking
1472
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:55.880
work here. Tell me you don't know this guy at all?
1473
01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:58.720
How's that? Why do you work here? Then? And yeah,
1474
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:00.560
like you said, Vampio explains why I don't like him,
1475
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:04.840
and Dario Aquato says, my name is Dario Aquato, Elliah.
1476
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.880
I'm the owner of promoter of luch Underground. He's opened
1477
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.239
his doors to the best fighters from all over the world,
1478
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:12.279
and he's given them an opportunity to kick ass or
1479
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:14.880
get their ass kick. I said, this is fucking awesome,
1480
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:17.319
all right, cool. This is not a stadium where the
1481
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:19.399
children can share for the heroes. This is at temple
1482
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:23.239
where we honor ancient traditions like courage and honor and
1483
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:28.880
fuck John Sata like you know they want it so
1484
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.439
bad to be just a full on anti WWE show here.
1485
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.720
Yes guaranteed commentary really hamfested.
1486
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:40.479
Later too, he says that his personal favorite tradition is violence,
1487
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.359
which becomes a major theme and Dario it's so funny
1488
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:48.439
because I want I'm pretty sure I watch until season three.
1489
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:52.880
I think spoilers, major spoilers here, cover your ears if
1490
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:54.960
you don't want to know. But I think I stopped
1491
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.520
watching when they killed they shot and killed Cuato. I
1492
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:00.359
don't know if you even know this, James the shoot
1493
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:04.880
and kill Darioquato. Uh and then his dad shows up
1494
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.520
to run the temple, which is just Dario in like
1495
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:09.439
a crazy fucking week.
1496
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.520
Yeah hmmm.
1497
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.760
So like at that point I was, and I think
1498
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.760
they changed. They go to a different temple because I
1499
01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:20.199
think they got kicked out of the last place. And
1500
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.279
I'm like, I don't really love this as much. I
1501
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:25.560
you know, three seasons, I gave it a lot, so
1502
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.840
like I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna tape. Yeah, but you know,
1503
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:33.159
Dario is a character I grow to love. I love Darioquato.
1504
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.800
He still does shit, right, He's in a fucking MLW.
1505
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:40.399
Yeah that's right. He's in MLW. I'm not too sure
1506
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:44.359
what he's doing there, but uh, I think it's something. Yeah,
1507
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.039
I think it's something similar to walking around with a
1508
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:47.199
briefcase full of money.
1509
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:52.640
Though probably demanding violence, I imagine, because that's when he does
1510
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.039
this whole fucking story. He uh. He also says, by
1511
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.239
the way, speaking of the briefcase, that the luchador who
1512
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.680
impresses him the most will get a signing, and he
1513
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:05.039
opens up the briefcase one hundred thousand dollars. So here's
1514
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.479
your chance to get rich or die trying.
1515
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:13.800
I see what he did there. Yeah, that's fifty.
1516
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.479
Who's gonna be here tonight? He's performing many.
1517
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.239
Man, Wow, that would have been fucking sick.
1518
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:23.920
What a good gimmick though, like fucking already set in
1519
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.239
some steaks like they don't have titles yet, but listen,
1520
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:29.640
you show up, you show out. You got one hundred
1521
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:31.800
thousand dollars. You tell me Super Dragon didn't one hundred
1522
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:32.680
thousand dollars.
1523
01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:39.960
Yeah, I mean, Ricky Reyez really needed that money. He
1524
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:41.319
will be here tonight.
1525
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.560
Well, he says. The first match represents the foundation of
1526
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.279
Lucca Libra because the men competing in it have Luca
1527
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:48.159
in their blood. One of them is good and one
1528
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:51.520
of them sucks. Shit. Welcome to lich Underground.
1529
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:56.199
Matt Schriker on commentary here says, you won't have six
1530
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.960
year olds running around in bright T shirts. This is Luca.
1531
01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.960
Under Who is that about? Oh just the kids that
1532
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:03.600
like John.
1533
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.000
C Yeah, so it was, yeah, the John Cena deal
1534
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:08.800
in h twenty fourteen. At the time, people were just
1535
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:10.119
begging for something different.
1536
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:14.159
Sure, sure, and uh, I mean John Cena showing up
1537
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.319
pure to get one hundred thousand dollars would have fucking
1538
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:17.239
been awesome. Though.
1539
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:19.279
Didn't John Cena wear a mask one time?
1540
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:22.600
He was wan Sena because he got fired.
1541
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:24.000
Oh with the purple mask?
1542
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:25.720
Yes, that's right.
1543
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:27.720
He should have come here and beat the fuck out
1544
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:28.239
of Matt.
1545
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:33.600
Striker, put him in the fucking SDF on the announced table,
1546
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:36.119
which is very tiny, so it would have looked ridiculous.
1547
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:37.960
But yeah, he should have did that. And then he
1548
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:43.600
should have piled driven Tavo off the apron. And then.
1549
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.560
He goes and he beats mass Striker up and he
1550
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.279
takes Chava by the leg and drags him out of
1551
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:53.920
the temple. All right, so I'm gonna take this guy
1552
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:55.199
to you guys, have a good time.
1553
01:21:56.239 --> 01:22:01.600
Thank you. Cina can a back to backdown. I got
1554
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:02.680
something for his asks.
1555
01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.680
So the first match of the evening here, first match
1556
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:11.560
of the promotion is Blue DeMont Junior versus Chavo Guerrero Junior.
1557
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.079
Yeah, Blue Demon Junior cool as fuck. I mean they
1558
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.800
run down his history and his dad's history and all
1559
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:20.920
that stuff, and uh, you know, Javo gets the same
1560
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.239
thing here, just talking about the Guerrero family and uh
1561
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.920
fucking you know, first match, and I can't say, like
1562
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.640
it's tough. This probably isn't a the wrong idea, right, Like,
1563
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.960
start with two luchadors, like one's a fucking famous luchador
1564
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:38.640
and one's a guy that people would know that if
1565
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:44.079
they watched. We like, this probably isn't wrong, But man,
1566
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.399
not the match you probably should start with. They should
1567
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:48.600
have moved some shit around to her.
1568
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.800
Yeah, I think Luca Underground was going for I mean,
1569
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.920
as we mentioned the observer segment, they were looking for
1570
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.600
that PWG style at the time, you know, fast action,
1571
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:03.319
big bombs. I guess I agree with you. I totally
1572
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:04.600
understand where they were going with this.
1573
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:04.920
Right.
1574
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:08.239
So, Blue Damon is a legend in Lucha Libre right
1575
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.479
and Chavo. I mean, you know, for all it's worth too.
1576
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.960
I mean he is, he's been around a very long time,
1577
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.079
and like a lot of the American audience knows him too,
1578
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:19.720
So I can understand the idea they're going for here
1579
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.720
where Blue Damon beats them. You know, people understand like, okay,
1580
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.319
so we can explain to the audience who this guy is.
1581
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.000
He can beat a guy that they know a lot about,
1582
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:31.560
and it's a match we can post about and people
1583
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:35.680
are like, oh, okay, I chop I know Chava right right,
1584
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.920
But damn would have been coolest shit too if you
1585
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:44.239
just started this show off with like just an absurd
1586
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:45.960
Luca's showcase or something.
1587
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.359
Yeah, like oh this is like you know, you know
1588
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.520
the history of Luca. There's one hundred years of history.
1589
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.159
Well this is what Luca is now. Yeah.
1590
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:55.319
So, I mean it was probably a decision. It was
1591
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.920
probably a game day decision on how they wanted to
1592
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.399
kick this fucking open it match off. But yeah, just
1593
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:04.399
a standard match here between Demon and Chava.
1594
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:05.800
I mean Chava probably walked up and said I.
1595
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:13.800
Yeah, probably so. Chava Guerrera Junior makes his entrance between
1596
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:17.439
the bleachers, while Blue Damont comes through the top down
1597
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.880
the staircase. I liked that they came from different locations.
1598
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.119
I don't know if that was always like a face
1599
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.600
heel thing, but I think it was kind of maybe
1600
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:28.039
implied at times here.
1601
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.760
Okay, so the face comes through the crowd because he yeah,
1602
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.119
you know, the people that the guy that people would
1603
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.600
want to see, and the heel comes through this area
1604
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.039
that's kind of separated from the crowd. I can understand that.
1605
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.079
I don't think that's always the case, but I think
1606
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:44.279
that's like a often that way.
1607
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.880
I mean, just a year prior, Chava won that fucking
1608
01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:53.960
fired briefcase at TIA, and like I know we've talked
1609
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.840
about on this show for people who don't know, Chava
1610
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.600
won the fired briefcase and the feasts are fired Matt TNA,
1611
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.479
which is a match that TNA would do with a
1612
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.960
bunch of briefcases, and they'd all have title matches in
1613
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.680
the briefcases, and whatever briefcase you got, you would find
1614
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.079
out what title you get to fight for. Uh, and
1615
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:11.640
then one of them had a fired.
1616
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.119
Again Nick Nay were all good except.
1617
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.840
One except for one, and you would get released from TNA.
1618
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:23.800
It's a gimmick, except for this time where Chava Grera
1619
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.159
won the fired briefcase and then TNA tried to use
1620
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:31.119
that as a reason to actually release them from his
1621
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:32.319
contract let.
1622
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:33.239
Him go because.
1623
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:38.880
Like Chava, like Chava, Legit had to get his lawyer involved,
1624
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.000
like because they were Legit trying to do that, and
1625
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:43.880
then he ended up leaving.
1626
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:51.000
Yeah, yeah, like, hey, we wrote you off like you.
1627
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:50.039
You don't got no more dates for you?
1628
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:52.720
Dude, What do you want us to do? You just
1629
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:55.079
got fired on this show? The fuck?
1630
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.760
Do you want to come back his creyman too.
1631
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:04.439
He's super Eric or we'll fill that role too if
1632
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.680
you want, We will recast you. Let us know if
1633
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:07.000
you would.
1634
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.600
Yeah. So Rick Knox is the referee for this match.
1635
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:19.399
Longtime PWG ref Rick Knox has an arm cast on.
1636
01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:21.399
Do you remember why?
1637
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:28.520
Because at Bola with Rod Yeah at Bola, Yeah, which
1638
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.760
was you mentioned it in the observers. It was just
1639
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:32.680
a few weeks.
1640
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:36.359
Back, yeah, if not a week. Yeah, Roderick fucks him
1641
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:38.960
up and he breaks his like arm or his collar
1642
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:40.840
like and I think he fucks his collarbone up too.
1643
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.119
Pretty nuts. They still they plan on a.
1644
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:44.960
Commentary like, Hey, why do we have a referee that's
1645
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:46.960
fucking got a broke arm or anything. He's just on
1646
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.359
the show, just has the cast on. Yeah, yeah, which
1647
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:53.439
is awesome. I'll take you. Yeah, knocks is sweet.
1648
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:55.399
Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna give a gimmick to
1649
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.880
the refee, had the Bob Wharton gimmick. He just always
1650
01:26:57.880 --> 01:26:58.720
wears this cast.
1651
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.439
I don't think he does, sadly, I think he does eventually.
1652
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:10.279
That'd be all the hard knocks. Oh wow, that would
1653
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:11.199
be pretty interesting.
1654
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:13.159
Actually he uses it eventually.
1655
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:16.800
They they're using all the local so Cala refs here too,
1656
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.079
which are pretty much you know, Peter BG uses some already,
1657
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.119
Elias Rick Knox or the refs.
1658
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.239
Here, which is cool. I mean, in the grand scheme
1659
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.520
of wrestling, like the West Coast gets the short end
1660
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.079
of the stick a lot because it's just so isolated
1661
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:32.840
from everything. And uh yeah, I mean, so it was
1662
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.680
very cool to be able to like see like just
1663
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.479
a bunch of guys from the West Coast get used
1664
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:38.119
in this product.
1665
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:40.119
Kicked ass Yeah Lujah.
1666
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.680
Underground also has guys standing on the boxes filming above
1667
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:45.800
the ropes, which gave it a different look.
1668
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:49.159
I wrote that there's their double box here. Usually, you know,
1669
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.840
I'm used to WW one. They got the two boxes,
1670
01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:52.720
I like it.
1671
01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:55.039
On each side. Yeah, and they didn't mind being in
1672
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:55.399
the shot.
1673
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:55.640
Yeah.
1674
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:56.600
I was surprised by that.
1675
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.359
No, dude, there's the okay, So that was it tilted
1676
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:01.239
me for a second, just because, like I'm just so
1677
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.760
used to it. Like there was fucking roamors on hardcam side.
1678
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:08.800
I said, right, I mean they had roamers on the floor,
1679
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:10.800
they had roamers on the boxes. I mean, there's a
1680
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:11.680
lot of cameras.
1681
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:13.479
They had overhead shots shots.
1682
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.479
Yeah, dude, the overhead shot was cool led to some
1683
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.399
like pretty creative shots during this match.
1684
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:21.479
There's one in the main that's fucking pretty awesome during
1685
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.119
like a falsey of the overhead shot. Yeah, I mean
1686
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:25.800
they're they're trying a lot of shit here, dude, Like
1687
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.479
that's why that's what especially, you know, like I said,
1688
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.319
I I would just hooked just because it was something new.
1689
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.279
But you know, they were trying to do a lot
1690
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:34.439
of shit that you weren't seeing on other shows WWE
1691
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:35.880
or DNA or r o H.
1692
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:38.840
They cut the camera a ton in this show.
1693
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.880
Also, there is a lot of editing on.
1694
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:46.239
I mean even when it's not being edited, like even
1695
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.640
when they're not putting the match shorter or whatever the
1696
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.399
case they were trying to do, there's just cutting to anything,
1697
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:53.640
oh everything.
1698
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:54.920
Yeah, we're just.
1699
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.960
We're just shifting angles for no reason. Most of the time.
1700
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.439
It felt it definitely was on purpose, because that that
1701
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:02.239
doesn't go away.
1702
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:04.600
It was just how wrestling was at the time. WB
1703
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.359
was the same way, like TNA was the same way.
1704
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:11.560
Like they were just cutting angles a ton, you know,
1705
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:16.039
and it was just you know, one or two eighty
1706
01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:19.079
ninety times man, Like, yeah.
1707
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:21.840
I think they thought it made it feel faster.
1708
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:24.800
Yeah, I can I can see that. I can see
1709
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:26.119
the thought process behind that.
1710
01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:27.359
Right, it's right.
1711
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:31.800
But like, yeah, I mean ten years later, chilli out. Sure, yeah,
1712
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.520
you know, with hindsight, chill out.
1713
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:35.319
Uh.
1714
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.840
So we start off here with Chavo and Blue Damon. Uh,
1715
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:40.880
we kind of just have a fifty to fifty match here.
1716
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:43.359
No one really gets the upper hand on each other
1717
01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:46.840
throughout this one. It's a very evenly, evenly fought match
1718
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:50.279
till we get to the finish here. Vampiro says that
1719
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:55.840
Chavo is like the redheaded step child. What does that mean.
1720
01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:58.760
I didn't understand this at first. There says he's like
1721
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:01.239
the redheaded stepchild when he walks into a locker room
1722
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.319
with that name. He's got heat, and you know, people
1723
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:11.119
really only liked Eddie. Wait, I wasn't.
1724
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:13.159
I wasn't sure if Chava was supposed to be a
1725
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:15.960
heel until Vampiro just started shipping on him on commentary.
1726
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:19.920
I was like, yeah, dude, people do not funk with
1727
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.760
the Guerreros. Oh ship's nott for Eddie.
1728
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:24.319
Awesome and everyone liked him.
1729
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:29.119
Dude, there's another fucking funny commentary thing. Matt Striker keeps
1730
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.479
calling him, uh, Damon, which you know, is how it said,
1731
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.119
and it's it's it sounded like he was trying to
1732
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.399
say it like to Vampiro to like be like, oh yeah,
1733
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:39.079
hey look this is like how we say it, right,
1734
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:42.560
And he says Damon, and Vampiro says, yeah, man, demon
1735
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:43.880
is pretty kick ass.
1736
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:45.880
Yeah that's Demon.
1737
01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:49.439
You might know miss Demon.
1738
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.800
So Travo hits a house show here. Uh Chavo then
1739
01:30:55.640 --> 01:31:01.640
gets crotched by Damon. Matt Striker, Yeah, this is funny
1740
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:05.319
as ship. So Chavo gets crotched and then Matt Striker
1741
01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:12.720
randomly just says, there's Rick Knox looking like Mills Lane.
1742
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.159
Chavo like his ass over tea kettle, almost falling on
1743
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:18.760
the top of his head and talking about sure you're
1744
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:20.239
talking about him being bald.
1745
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:26.520
There's Rick Knox looking like Mill's Lane. Oh there wasn't
1746
01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:27.960
like a follow up, all right.
1747
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:32.720
Nor you know he have a little levity here underground.
1748
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:37.479
We're not going to mention the cast. We're just gonna
1749
01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:40.520
say it looks like Mills Lane, right, just.
1750
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:44.760
A bald white guy. I'll come on down.
1751
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:51.000
So Damon misses a as demon in me. He misses
1752
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:58.279
a flipping sent on and Chavo gets it too, and brother, dude, Okay,
1753
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:00.800
Damon does the flip off the top of this ship.
1754
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.800
Was funny as ship. He misses the flipping sent on,
1755
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:07.720
Chavo gets the two Chavo uh like, he gets up
1756
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:11.119
off of him and mats Shriker on commentary says, is
1757
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:17.479
Travo gonna be one hundred thousand dollars? Richard, No, I
1758
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.880
thought this was about having a good match and being impressive.
1759
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.720
I is it about being impressive or is it about?
1760
01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.439
At no point is Chava gonna be winning that one?
1761
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:37.119
Hundred thousand dollars recrdialists whatever whatever, whatever, like, the deal
1762
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:45.039
is here. Chava is not winning that money. So no
1763
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:50.760
he's not because after this match, later on in the evening,
1764
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.319
Daria washt off till him and says, we'll get there,
1765
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.840
We'll get there, We get there.
1766
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:57.840
Yeah.
1767
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:01.039
Uh. Chavo goes for frankenstein Er all the top rope here,
1768
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:03.800
but Damon holds on and then power bombs them off
1769
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:04.680
the second for it too.
1770
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:05.920
That was sick.
1771
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.640
Yeah, that was cool. Daimon then puts on the scorpion
1772
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:11.800
deathlock and Chavo taps out.
1773
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:14.439
They said that was his dad's move. I didn't know
1774
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:15.920
he was a son of.
1775
01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:18.199
That's cool.
1776
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:22.600
Yeah, fucking kick ass the Blue Demons. Fucking dad is
1777
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:23.119
a stinger.
1778
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.880
Yeah, loves fucking Jim Carrey and shit, that's cool me too, man.
1779
01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:34.319
Yeah. Travo taps out, and uh, that's that's the history books.
1780
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.079
The first match in Lucia Underground History, uh televised at least,
1781
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:41.079
was Blue Damon beating Chavo Guerrero so vampire.
1782
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:44.239
At the end of this match, also, it sounded like
1783
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.239
you know when you lose in a video game and
1784
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:50.000
you get the game over screen and it fades, and
1785
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:53.239
then the screen pops up with rematch or exit match
1786
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:55.960
and the game drops like a one liner right there.
1787
01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.560
I swear to god, that's what this felt like. Chavo out.
1788
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:04.319
There's like super canned audio vampire that comes over and says,
1789
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:07.399
damn Chato tupped out. We're family. Ain't gonna be feeling
1790
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:07.800
that at.
1791
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:11.560
All, dude. Oh my god, it's such like a death jam.
1792
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:13.239
Fucking dude.
1793
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.000
I was waiting for like the rematch or exit match
1794
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:18.159
or back the menu button to pop up or something
1795
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:19.119
like it was.
1796
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:27.439
Game over, you lost. That happens this whole fucking show, dude.
1797
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:33.239
So we get a pre tape after the opening match
1798
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:34.800
here Dario is here with Conan.
1799
01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:39.039
Yeah Dario, uh, says Conan. So glad you're here. They're
1800
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:43.439
going to talk about us than the Observer now, huh
1801
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:44.199
Hey Conan.
1802
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.159
First things first, No, I haven't listened to pod yet,
1803
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.760
but I am happy that you're here working for me.
1804
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.159
Yeah, and like anything that bad happens back here. I
1805
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.039
mean you can report whatever you want, buddy, Like that's
1806
01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:57.039
totally cool to me.
1807
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:01.039
Everything here's will work, dude, Yeah, do whatever you want.
1808
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:04.000
Get Wizard's bizarre. So yeah, Conan says, listen, I don't
1809
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.560
know about working for you, but I'm interested in that
1810
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:10.279
money you're throwing around. But saying about me, you know,
1811
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.000
you're looking for one of the best fighters in the world.
1812
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:14.119
Look out that window. At first, I thought he was
1813
01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:16.079
being literal, like I thought he was saying, there's dudes
1814
01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:22.199
on the street that are better than the guys. Just dude,
1815
01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.119
you can pick from Ricky Reis is out there, a
1816
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.520
little chol other tod You better pick these dud dudes.
1817
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:28.520
They're coming here anyways.
1818
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.960
But he meant from like look outside like because the
1819
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.680
guy who's talking about is from this area. He says,
1820
01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:36.439
you know, he's one of the best fighters in the world,
1821
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:38.960
is right from here. And Dario says, listen, there's Luca
1822
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.319
Doors that might feel differently. In fact, I just signed
1823
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.239
a deal with the biggest former free agent in the business.
1824
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:45.920
He's a man that goes by many names, but here
1825
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:50.640
he will be known as Johnny Moondo mucha Luca fucking guys.
1826
01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:53.520
Dude, I love the name Johnny Moondo.
1827
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:54.439
I do too.
1828
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:57.039
I actually, I actually like I'm not a big John
1829
01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:59.239
Morrison guy had never really been a big John Morrison guy.
1830
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.720
But I was interested to see what he's going to
1831
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.159
do here because I know he is a big deal here.
1832
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:07.680
And Johnny Mundo is I love that name. I just
1833
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:11.439
can't get enough. Dude, that's Johnny Mundo right there.
1834
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:13.439
Not only is the name great, dude, his run here
1835
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.159
is actually awesome, especially when they turn him. He was
1836
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:19.720
fucking They got him in Taya and Justin Gabriel and
1837
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.560
Jack Evans and they're all just fucking assholes.
1838
01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:25.079
Yeah, I'm interested to see, Like, I think a lot
1839
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:27.840
of his a lot of his like buzz and a
1840
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.119
lot of his good will came from this running lucha underground,
1841
01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.880
So I haven't seen it. I'm interested to see, like
1842
01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.600
my thoughts on it once we get further into this show.
1843
01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:38.960
So Dario says I signed him only to make an
1844
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.359
example out of him, which I was like, Oh, that's fuck.
1845
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:43.479
It pretty cool because you know Moonda's it's gonna be
1846
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.800
a top baby. He says he doesn't respect my temple
1847
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:47.039
and he's here for the money and the fame. And
1848
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:48.640
if your man is as good as he says he is,
1849
01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:51.800
have him make an example of Johnny Hey, and if
1850
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:54.199
he does, perhaps one hundred thousand dollars will go to
1851
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:57.199
him and you. And Conan likes that because he likes
1852
01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:00.359
himself some money. So we got our main event, Johnny
1853
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:04.920
Mundo and uh, soon to be named the other guy. Yeah,
1854
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:09.039
could be anybody Cody brings in stone Cold.
1855
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.439
Yeah, I got a guy. So we go into a
1856
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.159
pre tape here we see a Lucha door wrestling in
1857
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.600
a ring as Cony and coaches him from ringside.
1858
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:18.000
Uh.
1859
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:21.479
And we learn a little bit more here about one
1860
01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:24.560
of the faces of this show, Prince Puma, and.
1861
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.039
He's I mean, this is the guy, right, This is
1862
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.840
like their money right here is Prince Puma. They put
1863
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.640
a lot into him, and I mean, fucking not a
1864
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.680
bad guy to go with, I gotta say, because goddamn
1865
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:39.840
he like encompasses, you know, other than fucking probably Penta
1866
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:43.159
in Phoenix, Like, Prince Puma is like the face of
1867
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:43.640
this place.
1868
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.159
Twenty fourteen. Ricochet is awesome too.
1869
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:50.000
Oh my god, Yes, dude, he's yeah, like on all cylinders.
1870
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:54.760
Yeah, yeah, I mean he was unbelievable in PWG. He
1871
01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.279
got in great shape, by the way, Yeah, I mean
1872
01:37:57.319 --> 01:37:59.880
he's unbelievably ripped. Yeah, he looks great.
1873
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.359
Conan says, the true legend of Luca doesn't run through
1874
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:05.239
his veins, it runs in him, and it shows Prince Uma,
1875
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:07.720
and he says he heard his family talking about seven
1876
01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:10.560
Astac tribes and how they all had their own champion
1877
01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:13.319
and the original luchadors. When a luchador loses in battle,
1878
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.560
more than his honor was taken way before Game of Thrones,
1879
01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:19.680
he says, Astag luchadors would claim the head of their opponent,
1880
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.159
which is why the mask has become a symbol of
1881
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:24.640
life in our sport. The luchador loses his mask, he
1882
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.960
loses everything. I mean, they could have went real crazy
1883
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:31.199
with this, Like they could have been cutting dude's heads
1884
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.000
off all the time if they wanted to.
1885
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:35.720
Well, they shoot Daria Equado in the head.
1886
01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:41.399
I guess they did kill Lucasaurusts. They legit cut his
1887
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.039
head off, so I guess that's fucking fair. I do.
1888
01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:47.640
By the way, I love that they brought that up
1889
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:50.640
because I think to a lot of the American audience too.
1890
01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:53.640
I mean, even when were watching WCW. You remember when
1891
01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.760
we watched Nitro, I think it was and Larry's Ubisco
1892
01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:58.479
was like trying to have a hard time trying to
1893
01:38:58.680 --> 01:38:59.800
yang to American fans.
1894
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:00.800
The mask is so.
1895
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.960
Revered import Lujah Libre. I love that they like gave
1896
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:08.119
it a pretty simple like explanation that ties into the
1897
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:13.079
show here, so like automatically, it gives so much meaning
1898
01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:14.119
to the audience watching.
1899
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.640
Yeah, like I understand like the importance of the mask
1900
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:19.960
thing too, right, like even how long I've been watching wrestling.
1901
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.239
But the explanation of like this is like getting your
1902
01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:25.680
fucking head cut off, is like, oh, I immediately understand
1903
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:27.520
that this is like the most important thing in the world.
1904
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:31.039
Actually, yeah, it ties into the show's like deal very
1905
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.319
very quickly. It was a good idea to do that.
1906
01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:36.359
They're showing shots here Prince Puma doing some shit. I mean,
1907
01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:38.199
he kicks this dude so hard in the fucking head
1908
01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:40.479
for the slow mo shot. I hope that does paid
1909
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:41.840
decently for that.
1910
01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:44.760
So we come out of the pre tape here we
1911
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.960
have Son of Havoc and he is taking on Sexy Star.
1912
01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:55.159
That caught me off guard. So Son of Havoc is here.
1913
01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:59.039
That's m Dog twenty. They got him under a deal here,
1914
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:01.079
which is all awesome that he got a spot on
1915
01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:02.479
this show. I thought that was very cool.
1916
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:06.239
He becomes a mainstay as well, like he's especially in
1917
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:12.560
the Trio's division. Here he becomes a figure wet dog. Yeah, dude,
1918
01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:16.159
we fucking m Dog. One of the first DPW world
1919
01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:19.439
title matches was pretty cool bo Jack versus m Dog
1920
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:21.119
twenty and he was cool ship but that was.
1921
01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:23.399
Dude, he was awesome. Yeah, what a what a good dude.
1922
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.880
Sexy Star makes her entrance. She comes through the crowd
1923
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:33.680
and she's got the DPW Women's World Champion maught what
1924
01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:34.279
the fuck?
1925
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:38.720
Yeah thinking of me? And they do a whole Sexy
1926
01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:40.840
Star high video here. I mean, they are getting her
1927
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:43.760
over huge here and they push her to the moon.
1928
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:47.039
Vampire says, she's like a rock star in Mexico. She's
1929
01:40:47.039 --> 01:40:49.880
won world titles wrestling in Japan. I guess on Havoc's
1930
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:51.760
a piece of fucking shit. We don't get to find
1931
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:57.239
out anything about him. He's which could be anybody, Dandy Havoc.
1932
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:01.479
Rock right, We're really listening for that guy to come in.
1933
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.319
So they show a Sexy Star video where she says
1934
01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:05.720
when she looked in the mirror, she saw a woman
1935
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.840
that was afraid, but her mask saved her life. And
1936
01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:10.880
Luca Libray called to her, and it showed her that
1937
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:12.760
women are as strong as men and tough as men,
1938
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:15.319
and sometimes can kick ass better than men. And uh,
1939
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:18.880
you know, it's a fucking inspirational story something everybody can
1940
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:22.479
get behind. I get that here, and uh, we come back,
1941
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:24.199
and some Havocs immediately taken the mic.
1942
01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:28.560
What the fuck, dude, he left raider voice on.
1943
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.920
That's fucking the best way to describe it, raider voice.
1944
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:38.800
So son Havoc has the mic and he says, before
1945
01:41:38.840 --> 01:41:41.880
you get all sorry, I'm not wrestling a warburn. Vampiro
1946
01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:48.439
says that arrogant bastard, Havac says, want you to do
1947
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:51.239
yourself favor, get yourself counted out and live to fight
1948
01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:54.199
another day. Imagine if that's legit what they did. But
1949
01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:55.439
she just said a fuck.
1950
01:41:56.960 --> 01:41:58.399
I mean, that's the son of Abba.
1951
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:02.680
That you got anything to show for his backstory because
1952
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:03.279
he was killing.
1953
01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:07.000
Du Yeah right, I mean his dad's Havoc is a.
1954
01:42:07.079 --> 01:42:11.439
Legend motorcycles rights. Right.
1955
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.119
He was known as Harley Davidson.
1956
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:17.600
In the which we found out was a real guy.
1957
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:19.680
Son of Harley david Son. Didn't work.
1958
01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.039
Well, that was you know, like Luke Chop Rising was
1959
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:24.880
the first name son of Harley David Soon was like
1960
01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:29.199
pitched it kind of a lot hard to chant.
1961
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:32.840
Yeah, So Sexy Star looks at him like are you serious?
1962
01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:35.319
And uh, you know, I'm not going to exit the
1963
01:42:35.399 --> 01:42:37.479
ring and do this, But then she does. She steps
1964
01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:39.960
out of the ring and Havoc looks back at her
1965
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:41.399
and says, I'm not gonna sit back.
1966
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:56.479
That's serious. Wow, that is the fun? Was that? Why
1967
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.079
did that? It went on for so long?
1968
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:01.960
But Sexy Star then runs back in and tries to
1969
01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:06.760
jump Havoc, but it backfires. Havoc kind of beats her ass.
1970
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:08.520
She tries to get the one up on him and
1971
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:10.600
she's but she's resilient. He keeps shoving her off, but
1972
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:11.439
she is resilient.
1973
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:15.640
Sexy Star slabs Havoc, and this is where I'm realizing
1974
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.000
now that every slap sounds like a gunshot in this place.
1975
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:24.039
Like that is forever, by the way, every superkick, every anything,
1976
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.720
you're getting a slap on, You're getting the the fu
1977
01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:29.760
weed whacker, the kendowstick sound.
1978
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:34.439
Yeah, dude, it's super loud. Yeah, Sexy Star is stringing
1979
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:37.880
some shit together here, but Havoc just hits a back
1980
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.760
breaker and it's kind of like Nightfall in a way
1981
01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:44.199
main style backbreaker here and picks up the wind.
1982
01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:50.960
I uh, okay, I was confused. They like her losing.
1983
01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.720
I'm not confused about Like I get it, like that's
1984
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:56.239
gonna get fucking paid off obviously, right, but like how
1985
01:43:56.399 --> 01:44:01.720
short this was and he gets a normal pinfall on her,
1986
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.359
and Matt Shreker says, Havo wins by pulling the tights.
1987
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:07.560
All right, Well, I mean he tried.
1988
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:09.760
He tried to pull the tights. I don't know if
1989
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:11.680
you noticed, but he picked her leg up and tried
1990
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.399
to grab her gear.
1991
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:16.279
Okay, but it definitely does not it just like a
1992
01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:17.479
deep regular pin.
1993
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:17.880
Yeah.
1994
01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:21.159
Well yeah, dude, short fucking match. Didn't like that either,
1995
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:25.479
didn't really Again, I get where it goes, right, it's
1996
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:29.680
it'll pay off and it'll be fucking j went brother
1997
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.399
some fucking app because I did read. Meltzer originally said
1998
01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:36.000
that this was like a he got a report that
1999
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:37.800
it was a two out of three, or they just
2000
01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:42.399
were like filmed multiple matches. So either this was supposed
2001
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.359
to be longer and it got cut crazy or it
2002
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:46.720
kept going poorly.
2003
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.479
It'd be funny as shit if like sexy stars, like, yeah,
2004
01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:52.000
I'm not gonna lose tonight. So they're like, okay, it's
2005
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:53.960
two out of three falls and then the one fall
2006
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.439
where he beat her they just used that. Yeah, Wow,
2007
01:44:58.680 --> 01:44:59.439
that'd be nuts.
2008
01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.640
That would be fucking awesome. What a great idea.
2009
01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:06.399
Well, it shows a graphic of Johnny Mundo and Prince
2010
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:08.840
Puma's main event later on this evening.
2011
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.920
Yeah, Johnnymundo returns of the ring after three years. Why lie,
2012
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:17.960
why why? Like this show's definitely for smart fans, Like,
2013
01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:21.439
why would you just fucking pretend I don't get it? Well,
2014
01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:25.439
that's Johnny Mundo, you know, who wrestled three years ago.
2015
01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:26.479
Of course.
2016
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:35.199
As the Flea. So we go to a pre tape
2017
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:40.039
here Chavo is sweaty and uh the screen, a silver
2018
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:44.520
briefcase slides across the room and Chavo looks down and
2019
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:45.720
he says, please.
2020
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:52.039
No, would you like to see my briefcase? Java?
2021
01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:55.399
No, that didn't have it. It should have happened. That
2022
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:59.880
would have been very fun. Dario comes in and he says, uh,
2023
01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:01.359
you tapped out.
2024
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:05.399
Huh dude. He says, the Great Java Guerrera from the
2025
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:08.560
Great gro Familia. What happened? My friend. I thought you'd
2026
01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:10.199
be the first victor of my temple and prove the
2027
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.399
world that the Grow family is the greatest luchador family
2028
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.760
in history. And what do you do? You tapped out?
2029
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:19.760
What would your grandfather think? What would your uncle think? Well,
2030
01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:21.479
he says, one thing's for sure. The one hundred thousand
2031
01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:25.760
dollars will not begun to you city.
2032
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:29.680
I mean only fuck you are not getting that money.
2033
01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:30.680
I'll tell you that much.
2034
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:32.760
And since you didn't finish the job tonight, I will
2035
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:34.760
have to bring in an opponent who will. And once
2036
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:36.359
he is here, there is nothing I can do to
2037
01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:38.880
stop him. And he wipes his nose. I believe this
2038
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.159
was cocaine implications. And he says a thousand deaths might
2039
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:45.560
be coming for us, all which I don't know. I'm assuming.
2040
01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:47.960
Do you know who this is talking about? Here? The rock?
2041
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.319
Well that was the first one. You're still on, like
2042
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:55.279
the the like for Lucha Uprising script here? Right? Okay,
2043
01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.319
my bad, miss the it's uh it is uh mill
2044
01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:02.920
More tents mill More tests who you know as Judas Messius.
2045
01:47:03.720 --> 01:47:05.640
Oh wow, Abyss is half brother.
2046
01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:14.039
Yes, yes, he's with Maxine. I forget where her name
2047
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:19.680
was here Maxine from w Yes, yes was her name?
2048
01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:20.880
Oh The Kiss of Death?
2049
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.119
Yes, yes, Katrina Katrina was her name? Katrina? Right, Okay,
2050
01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.079
what she's fucking awesome on this show too. Yeah.
2051
01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:32.880
Yeah, I mean I've seen a lot of the Wertz stuff,
2052
01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.279
Like he's massive, he looks you, the mask is super
2053
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:37.479
fucking dope, dude.
2054
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.600
Him and Phoenix have like my favorite casket match ever.
2055
01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:43.520
Yeah, so I mean I'm definitely excited to see more
2056
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:44.319
from him, for sure.
2057
01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:44.760
Yeah.
2058
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:50.279
So we have the main event of the evening, Johnny
2059
01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:52.720
Mundo versus Prince Puma with Conan.
2060
01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.640
So Conan is here for the entrance and that's it.
2061
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:00.520
Yeah, he's That's that's all I got.
2062
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:04.960
I don't know if like they filmed that and then
2063
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:07.680
or what happened here, because like or he might have
2064
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:09.239
been going you know what, I actually may have read
2065
01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:11.760
that he like had surgery, like makes sense at the time,
2066
01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:12.319
So maybe he.
2067
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:13.880
Was going through a lot of shit at this time.
2068
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.560
Yeah. Sure, I feel like every other fucking month there
2069
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:19.119
was stuff about Conan's like hip surgery or this or that.
2070
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.720
You know, Well, Johnny Munda comes out, he does his
2071
01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:23.720
WWE entrance here, like with.
2072
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:27.319
The uh slow Moe thing and yeah, kicked on the
2073
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:28.319
apron and stuff.
2074
01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:31.159
Yeah, yeah, he's still locked and still got the jacket
2075
01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:34.720
and everything. The only thing separating him from WWE is
2076
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:35.800
Joey Mercury's now.
2077
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:39.079
Here the ring. Yeah, pretty much.
2078
01:48:39.760 --> 01:48:43.399
Prince Puma comes out here and Vampiro immediately says, yeah,
2079
01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:44.319
Conya is like a cancer.
2080
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:44.479
Man.
2081
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:45.079
I hate that guy.
2082
01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:47.800
I gotta tell you, dude, that is such like a
2083
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:52.800
fucking this never ends. By the way. He hates Conan
2084
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:55.880
and like always hates Conan and he calls him a
2085
01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.520
snake and this, that and the other. I mean, it's
2086
01:48:58.760 --> 01:48:59.239
it's great.
2087
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:03.000
Yeah, and this is like prime era Ricochet by the way.
2088
01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:05.640
I mean, you know, not to catch up with the
2089
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:07.520
stuff he's doing now, because the stuff he's doing now
2090
01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:10.439
is really good too. But I just remember at the
2091
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:14.800
time watching Ricochet and being like, holy fuck, like I know,
2092
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:16.880
he's got it all. I was like, Wow, this guy
2093
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:20.920
can do everything, And I guess that's really kind of
2094
01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:22.319
still the still the case now.
2095
01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:26.119
I mean, like still can do it super still, he
2096
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:28.439
can keep up with fucking everybody, man.
2097
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.560
Yeah, I guess it was easy to like when he
2098
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:34.199
went to WWE, it was easy to forget, like, you know,
2099
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:37.800
because so much time passed, like just how good this
2100
01:49:37.960 --> 01:49:41.119
guy is, I know, and like it's it's really cool
2101
01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:42.880
to see him doing his thing nowadays.
2102
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:46.119
In aw no, dude, like I said, when he came
2103
01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:50.479
back from fucking that dragon Gate tour, I mean it
2104
01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.520
was this is like the best high flyer in the
2105
01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:57.119
fucking world. It was on yeah right, yeah, he had
2106
01:49:57.119 --> 01:50:00.640
a little you remember the mohawk of course, dude, that
2107
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.119
great when he tapped in, yes, jacked and he had
2108
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:05.399
that fucking colored mohawks. Sh it was awesome. Man.
2109
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.720
He look yeah like that look.
2110
01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:09.800
And but I will say, Prince Uma, by the way,
2111
01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:11.720
this is a super marketable look here.
2112
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:16.199
Yeah he's got a story like I mean, yeah, I
2113
01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:18.800
mean this is awesome. I mean this is I mean
2114
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:20.439
a lot of people still reference this. I mean this
2115
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:23.680
is a very cho very people remember this very much,
2116
01:50:24.159 --> 01:50:29.000
which is cool. Vampiro all right, so they start the
2117
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:31.960
match off here Mundo and Puma do and they do
2118
01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.159
like a wristlock exchange, and Vampura says, you know, that
2119
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:37.680
reminds me of the Dynamite Kid. And I was like,
2120
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:39.840
holy shit, I mean that was loaded.
2121
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:42.000
That's crazy.
2122
01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:44.960
They're doing like wristlock exchanges and ship and strikers like
2123
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.079
this is inspired by World of Sport. You know, you
2124
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:49.880
can talk about that here. Use the internet.
2125
01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:54.319
Learn, do not look at where Johnny Mundes working.
2126
01:50:54.199 --> 01:51:00.399
Lately, Johnny Munda's cage match for the past three years.
2127
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:03.319
Do not keep up with Johnny Mundo, but you should
2128
01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:05.600
keep up with the World of sport. Also, by the way,
2129
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.359
I don't know if you noticed, it's very very faint.
2130
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:09.800
I don't know if they kept it in just because
2131
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:13.199
they had to or what. But when the shot comes
2132
01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.880
in and the bell rings, the last bit of the
2133
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:19.359
crowd channing all night long can be heard, which was
2134
01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.239
fucking Obviously the PBG fans there that knew was Rikoshet
2135
01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:23.319
and he was doing shit with Swan.
2136
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:25.920
Okay, I was gonna bring it up because Striker says
2137
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.840
it on commentary. Striker mentions that Ricochet can go all
2138
01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:31.560
night long, and I was like, oh man, it's the
2139
01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:36.359
fucking Ricochet rich One Inner City machine Guns from PWG
2140
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:39.199
and they were doing I mean, they were doing that
2141
01:51:39.359 --> 01:51:43.239
fucking deal on every indie show they were on. I mean,
2142
01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:47.319
rich One still does it to this day. Rich One
2143
01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:56.399
is still doing Yeah, that's nuts. Matt Striker says that
2144
01:51:57.159 --> 01:51:59.239
he asked Vampiro. He says, what do you think Puma
2145
01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:03.359
has like picked up from Conan? And Vampiro says, sadly,
2146
01:52:03.439 --> 01:52:05.159
this kid's about to be corrupted. I gotta tell you
2147
01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:07.000
Conan is evil.
2148
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:16.119
He legit says. If there's anyone that's evil, it's Conan's ship. Dude.
2149
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:19.359
I love how thick Vampiro lays it on for the
2150
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:22.840
heels on this show, Like, yeah, no one likes the
2151
01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:26.079
Guerrero family. It's sept for Eddie is nuts. You know,
2152
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:29.359
Conan is evil and he's going to corrupt this kid immediately.
2153
01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.680
He's a cancer. Yeah. I like how ernest he is,
2154
01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:34.640
and like the way he comes off on the heels
2155
01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:36.199
that only grows too.
2156
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:36.720
By the way.
2157
01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.840
I love this So Ricochet does, I mean, like if
2158
01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:43.159
Ricochet's like kind of just doing going through the motions
2159
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.039
of his ship that he would do like pretty much
2160
01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:47.960
every show, Like double fucking Head saysers drop kick, go
2161
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:52.199
for the dive, backflip into superhero pos Like Vampiro, I'm
2162
01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:55.000
guessing he hasn't seen much Ricochet, you know, up to
2163
01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:57.359
this point, so like this is the first time you
2164
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:00.239
see all his ship, which is like, I mean, when
2165
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:02.359
you see it for the first time, especially in twenty fourteen,
2166
01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:06.159
you're like, wow, this is like this is it? Like
2167
01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:10.319
this guy is right. So Vampiro sees that and like
2168
01:53:10.439 --> 01:53:12.279
he stands up. I mean he legitimately goes, man, I'm
2169
01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:12.760
standing up.
2170
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:16.680
Come on, come on. I was like, dude, Wow, I.
2171
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:20.399
Haven't seen I've never seen someone's first reaction to seeing
2172
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.479
like this feels like a time capsule, like seeing twenty
2173
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.840
fourteen Ricochet for the first time and being able to
2174
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.359
experience like his shine and all this shit he does
2175
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.600
like it's super locked in and yeah. Seeing Vampiro stand
2176
01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:34.880
up and he was like, let's fucking god.
2177
01:53:35.880 --> 01:53:39.960
The little camera that's blown out. Yeah on his mic
2178
01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:44.960
that's blown out. I'm standing on that, dude. Yeah.
2179
01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:47.960
Richet Ricochet goes to dive. He does the backflip into
2180
01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.560
the superhero post thing. If this was PWG. Mundo would
2181
01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:53.840
have came in. He would have done the Superhero post spot.
2182
01:53:54.199 --> 01:53:56.600
Then the ref would have done the Superhero post spot.
2183
01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.119
And stick their thumbs up.
2184
01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:02.279
Then whoever's doing control of this match, he would smack
2185
01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:04.600
the other guy. The guy would powder. He would give
2186
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:06.560
the middle finger to the crowd. He'd hit a big
2187
01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:08.680
dive over the robes we get into the match.
2188
01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:11.159
That's pretty much exactly how this would go.
2189
01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:13.760
Ricochet would do.
2190
01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:18.000
The dance right the people's elbow, Yeah, yeah, with the
2191
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:18.560
moon saw.
2192
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:20.920
Yeah, the People's moon saw.
2193
01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:22.960
Yeah, all stuff I wanted to see in twenty fourteen.
2194
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:26.159
Twenty fourteen on beg, I am begging for the ref
2195
01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:29.000
to do the superhero posing fuck up, Like I am
2196
01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:34.119
begging for it. Dude, push the ladder and do the
2197
01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:37.159
toe fa on you and beg you to it. But yeah,
2198
01:54:37.279 --> 01:54:39.640
like seeing this brought back so many memories for me.
2199
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:40.319
It felt good.
2200
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:43.880
This was a very important part of my fandom as
2201
01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:49.359
a wrestling fan. Like I like, I'm not the style
2202
01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:54.960
that PWG was at the time, Like I I like
2203
01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:57.640
different types of wrestling today is the best to put it.
2204
01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:02.159
But that era was so important for me as like
2205
01:55:02.840 --> 01:55:06.159
just a fan of wrestling to go through, you know, man,
2206
01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:08.640
Like that shit brought back a lot of memories.
2207
01:55:08.720 --> 01:55:10.760
Yeah, well, you know we've talked about it right, where
2208
01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:12.479
Like I was definitely in a part where like I
2209
01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:14.640
didn't really want to watch anything old, but I also
2210
01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:17.960
like didn't want to watch much that was going on TV.
2211
01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:20.640
So like, if that shit didn't exist, I'm probably like
2212
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:23.960
if I didn't, if I don't find the indies, I'm out. Yeah.
2213
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:28.039
I was so ready for like that generation of guys
2214
01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:30.600
to like be the people that everyone was talking about.
2215
01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:34.279
Matt Striker calls the fans here the Lucca Mania acts.
2216
01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:37.479
He says, it doesn't last. Check out the Luca MANI acts.
2217
01:55:37.479 --> 01:55:45.479
In this dirty, dirty, shitty, fucking shitty, shitty, fucking horrible
2218
01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:46.159
building we're in.
2219
01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.359
They must they must believe in this. Oh right, believers.
2220
01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:51.479
That's probably a better one. Huh.
2221
01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:54.880
Bapira says, Yeah, we're like in a Freddy Krueger movie,
2222
01:55:55.079 --> 01:55:57.039
like we're here in the boiler room or something.
2223
01:55:57.640 --> 01:55:59.199
That would have been fucking sick. What the hell?
2224
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.760
Yeah? I like, you know, what can I say? I'm
2225
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:04.640
a fan of Wes Cravens at everyone Elm Street So Vampiro,
2226
01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:06.880
I like that shout out, thank you so much. I
2227
01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.279
appreciate that. They fight over to the announced table. Here
2228
01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:14.560
Mundo flips off the table and Vampiro literally peaks his
2229
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.920
mic by how excited he is. He says, this is
2230
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:18.640
like the coolest shit he's ever seen.
2231
01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:21.000
Dude, if he could curse, he would be fucking going
2232
01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:23.239
nuts right now, Like this is the craziest fucking the
2233
01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.760
governments and have you you see this shit.
2234
01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:28.359
They had to keep Vampiro away from PWG by all
2235
01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:29.840
costs because he.
2236
01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:33.560
Would like it would change his life. God, oh my god.
2237
01:56:34.399 --> 01:56:36.520
Mundo's now in control of the match. Here, He's taken
2238
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:40.359
four arm shots to prince Puma's back. Puma fires back
2239
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:42.039
with a kick here. He tries to get the crowd
2240
01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:45.520
into the match by pounding on the mat. But I mean,
2241
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:47.479
you can see like a lot of the fans already left.
2242
01:56:47.479 --> 01:56:50.239
I guess the fucking building was so hot and just
2243
01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:51.319
everything by that point.
2244
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.159
They thought a peeping for the most part.
2245
01:56:53.439 --> 01:56:55.319
Yeah, they didn't know that he was trying to get
2246
01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:57.399
them into it by pounding the bat either, So it
2247
01:56:57.520 --> 01:56:59.159
kind of took him a minute to understand what was
2248
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:01.680
going on, but they eventually got it. I'm sure there
2249
01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:03.399
was somebody there that was kind of like doing what
2250
01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:07.680
so Calval would do. Yeah, yeah, right, Puma has a
2251
01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:11.399
standing shooter for a two here. Mundo eventually catches fire
2252
01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:13.399
and runs Pum into the buckle and punches him down
2253
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:17.840
them Mundo hits a very odd looking comeback. That's the
2254
01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:19.039
only way I could put it here. It was just
2255
01:57:19.159 --> 01:57:23.960
very odd. Yeah, double clothes line, it's a normal comeback.
2256
01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.880
Don't get me wrong. Say you just kind of have
2257
01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:28.640
to look at it. It's just very odd looking. It
2258
01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.840
felt like it didn't feel like he was trying.
2259
01:57:31.640 --> 01:57:33.960
To do the moves to him.
2260
01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:36.079
It kind of took me out for a second. It
2261
01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:37.359
just kind of felt like we were going through the
2262
01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:38.880
motions of the comeback. Yeah, it was weird.
2263
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.159
It was kind of like a means to an end,
2264
01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:42.920
like we just kind of I need to get my
2265
01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:44.920
come up back here, and this is what I got.
2266
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:48.079
Like I was just onawn. Sorry, like this guy, I
2267
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:49.399
got double line leg Larry.
2268
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:53.560
But even if you're doing double line lariat, like that's cool.
2269
01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:55.399
Like de Malinko would do the leg Larry and I
2270
01:57:55.439 --> 01:57:59.119
would come back a lot. But like you catch fire,
2271
01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.640
you punch him down the buckle, you fucking fire up.
2272
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:04.960
And it was almost like Randy Orton when he throws
2273
01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:08.399
the lions for his comeback. Oh, like you know, yeah,
2274
01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.800
it's just like now we're just waiting for the power slam,
2275
01:58:11.920 --> 01:58:14.720
but he goes in the Yeah. Yeah, it was just odd,
2276
01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:17.000
just because, like with the fire that he came up
2277
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:18.800
with out of the corner, it's expected like a more
2278
01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:21.840
fiery comeback than that. Sure, I mean it's such a
2279
01:58:22.119 --> 01:58:23.199
stupid nitpick here.
2280
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:25.119
No, but I see you're saying. I mean, like you know,
2281
01:58:25.199 --> 01:58:27.159
and I will tell you he does, you know, the
2282
01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:30.720
the stuff. He becomes more of a looch underground wrestler
2283
01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:32.880
than a w B wrestler pretty soon.
2284
01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:36.199
That's cool. Mundo hits a running knee strike for two.
2285
01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:39.560
He goes for starship pain, but Puma rolls him up
2286
01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:39.960
for a two.
2287
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:43.119
That's the end of the World broughta I didn't know
2288
01:58:43.159 --> 01:58:44.920
that till the end of the match, dude. I actually,
2289
01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:47.840
the end of the World is a fucking awesome name
2290
01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:49.920
for a move. Yeah. I do like it too.
2291
01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:54.680
Mundo goes for a spinning neck breaker. I'm thinking that's
2292
01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:56.720
the Moonlight drive. I think I wrote down.
2293
01:58:56.640 --> 01:58:59.359
Moon Light dry there you go. I was waiting, Yeah, yeah,
2294
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:00.640
I wrote it down somewhere here.
2295
01:59:01.199 --> 01:59:02.640
I heard him at commentary say it.
2296
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:03.159
Yeah.
2297
01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.000
Puma stops him from hitting that though, until Mundo hits
2298
01:59:06.039 --> 01:59:08.880
a springboard kick for a two. It's basically Puma just
2299
01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:11.319
trying to hold on and stop Munda from hitting his
2300
01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.640
finishing stuff. Here, Mundo flips out of starship pain.
2301
01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:15.680
He does.
2302
01:59:15.760 --> 01:59:16.880
He has a lot of moves and a lot of
2303
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:21.000
things that could put Puma down here. You know, in
2304
01:59:21.159 --> 01:59:24.560
the in the story of of the match, Mundo's kind
2305
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:26.159
of like a vet, you know, he's kind of like
2306
01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:29.920
the top guy who comes in and everyone knows, yeah, yeah,
2307
01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:31.760
Puma is like the up and coming guy. Right, So
2308
01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:35.039
like Puma is just trying to like escape from the
2309
01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:36.680
ship that he knows Mundo's gonna do.
2310
01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:39.840
Right, He wouldn't, right, because yeah, exactly.
2311
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:42.239
Puma catches him with the springboard media Oora for a two,
2312
01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:46.640
goes for a springboard for fifty but misses. Mundo is
2313
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:48.720
able to hit the Moonlight drive for a two point nine.
2314
01:59:49.279 --> 01:59:51.920
That was a good fucking falsey. I actually even bit
2315
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:54.600
on that one because he that yeah, yeah, yeah.
2316
01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:59.520
Mundo hits a standing Spanish fly here called the C four,
2317
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:02.319
A little C four. It's a lot of moves called that.
2318
02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:05.800
Fucking there is a lot of moves called that. I'm trying,
2319
02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:11.000
I'm trying to remember who first called it the four spike, Yes,
2320
02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:15.279
C four, so I know it as the as this right,
2321
02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:18.800
the Standing Spanish Fly C four is also Sean Spears
2322
02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:25.199
value right, Spike. Uh, there's definitely another one.
2323
02:00:25.600 --> 02:00:26.960
Yeah, I'd have to think about it.
2324
02:00:27.960 --> 02:00:33.039
Let us know if you unmore, there's gotta be more.
2325
02:00:33.279 --> 02:00:35.760
I don't know who first called it the C four
2326
02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:37.920
for this, because the first time I remember seeing the
2327
02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:42.439
flipping Spanish fly was the standing one was fucking Paul
2328
02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:47.439
Burns show. Oh wow. Really he'd walked the plank I
2329
02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:49.960
think or walking the plank one of those he did
2330
02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:54.239
hirate in the game. That's also so he got it
2331
02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:55.640
in the game the standing C four.
2332
02:00:56.079 --> 02:00:56.920
Which game was he in?
2333
02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:03.279
Oh seven? Oh nice? Mm hmmm, good game to be in.
2334
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:05.720
I don't know what I expected here for the main
2335
02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:07.720
but I was. I was impressed with it nonetheless.
2336
02:01:08.319 --> 02:01:10.159
Yeah, no, man, I I dug it a lot. I mean,
2337
02:01:10.239 --> 02:01:13.520
like you said, I can, I can fucking just glowingly
2338
02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:16.800
talk about Ricochet at this time, and you know, Johnny Mundo,
2339
02:01:17.159 --> 02:01:19.640
I even I remember at the time, I was like, ah, fuck,
2340
02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:21.600
like I wish just didn't have WB guys in it,
2341
02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:24.239
but I get it. But he fucking grows on me, man,
2342
02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:28.720
Like like you said, like this run does pretty fucking
2343
02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:30.840
does wonders for him. He ends up in TNA too,
2344
02:01:31.079 --> 02:01:31.880
and what's the title?
2345
02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:34.399
Yeah, Austin Ares walks out after.
2346
02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:42.279
Holy shit because he gets into its mud. Fuck that.
2347
02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:46.920
Fuck that. So Puma is frustrated after the match. I
2348
02:01:47.279 --> 02:01:49.359
like this part too. He fucking Mundo gives them props
2349
02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:52.039
and DAPs them up and they hug, and Striker on
2350
02:01:52.079 --> 02:01:54.640
commentary says, Ah, he's you know, he's taking care of me.
2351
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:56.640
He's looking he's being a good guy. Here. Do you
2352
02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.760
think that means if Mundo gets one hundred thousand he'll
2353
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:02.399
share it with Puma? Why the fuck would he do that? Yeah?
2354
02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:05.399
I mean I don't know. Like, also, it's in cold
2355
02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:08.279
hard bills. I mean that's a situation.
2356
02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:11.520
Yeah, and walk out with him briefcase?
2357
02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:14.319
Was he just holding money walking out into La in
2358
02:02:14.399 --> 02:02:19.640
the street. So Dario comes out, Yeah, and uh Vampiro
2359
02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.239
right away. I love the way he reacted. Bro, he
2360
02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:23.640
looks so pissed right now.
2361
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:26.039
Dude, he is Matt what the hell? What the hell?
2362
02:02:26.079 --> 02:02:27.039
He's fucking really bad?
2363
02:02:28.039 --> 02:02:28.479
Casual?
2364
02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:29.880
That was that was so funny.
2365
02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:34.640
And Dario congratulates Mundo and he says he's earned the money.
2366
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:37.199
Yes, he shows him the briefcase. By the way, the
2367
02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:38.960
money is in it, so they're not like trying to
2368
02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:42.600
bake the money or anything. And Mundo goes to grab
2369
02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:45.920
the briefcase but Dario closes it, and they're super dubbed
2370
02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:48.439
vampiro commentary because he must have been flipping the fuck
2371
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.760
out and if I peaked like this ship, so they
2372
02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:53.720
had to get this line in. Yeah, this is the
2373
02:02:53.720 --> 02:02:55.920
first time I've seen a jar Boni promoter like this
2374
02:02:56.359 --> 02:02:57.960
struck to skip out on a paid day.
2375
02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:00.560
Well, what a great line. I thought that was funny
2376
02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:03.319
as shit. Yeah, it sounded like he was le disgusted.
2377
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:06.760
Yeah, dude, he probably popped off for real. Like on
2378
02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:08.720
commentary they said, all right, dude, hey, you gotta like
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dial it a little. What the fuck? So Mundo tries
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to go for the briefcase and they struggle with the
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Dario is not giving it to him, and then oh
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my god, it's Ricky Reyes the rot Wilders. Are your
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babys are here. Holy shit, it's Ricky, and holy shit,
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it's a little Cholo. Little Cholo's here and they're jumping
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Punda Punda Puma and Mundo and uh, they're kicking their ass.
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They're stomping them out until the big Dog is here.
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We've talked about him on the show a few times.
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We actually never got to talk about him when he
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was this.
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Big Rick is in the house from that EV two promotion,
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the Philly based promotions, Ezekiel Jackson. He was their champion, the.
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Last ew champion. Big Rick is so Big Rick grabs
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Puma from my apron and he gives him the ten
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beatsa where Ravens from. Yeah, dude, and then Ricky Rea
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is a little chollo invent the shatter machine.
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Dude they do? Wow? That was nuts. They hit it
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clean too?
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Were they Was this already a move on? Like? Were
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they were these guys like a team yet the revival?
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Oh I assume so I in my brain that's like.
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Later they should have hit him with the cop killer
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fucking tiger.
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Yeah, ship, that would have been so fucking awesome. Wow. Yeah, No,
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we get shatter machine though, and uh they throw Mundo
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into Big Rick, and Big Rick goozles Mundo and he
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hits him with a fucking Urinagi. I don't know why
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he goozled him though, he wasn't like a jokes. Lady
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goes into Uranagi and Vampiro says, damn dog, which is
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again just end screen.
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Commentary, exit match.
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We met damn dog window. He just got hit with
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the urinaugy. Uh shit, uh Ricky Rianz. By the way,
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here is Cortes Castro and little Cholo is mister Cisco Nice,
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which is which is awesome. Yeah, they're uh, they're the
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hired guns here for uh, for Dario Quito. And he says,
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you think just you know, just Lucca doors compete here.
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I don't think so. I told you I've been scouting
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the best fighters in the world, and these guys they
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work for me. And he gives the one hundred thousand
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dollars the Big Rick as the hired gun and here
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you go, buddy, dude, that would have been fucking awesome.
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Holy shit, But he gives one hundred thousand dollars the
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Big Rick and the crowd booze, and Dario says, welcome
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to Luca Underground. And that's how we go off the
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air with the first show here with already set in
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the lines of Dario's gotta stable. He's the dickhead, fucking
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die in charge. We got the top babies here setting
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up a lot here.
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Yeah, I mean they had a vision man, and they
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execute it, you know, all the way out through the show.
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I mean, we have a bunch of angles that have
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already sort of spouted up here, like what are we
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gonna do with Chavo Guerrero. We got them signed for
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six shots. You know, we got Son of Havoc. You
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know he's got the voice changer.
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Dude, he's looking for some count out victories.
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Right Yeah, Blue Day Moon's already like a big baby
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face here that the crowds is gonna get behind for sure. Yeah,
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they got the mill Muertes thing coming together. Prince Puma
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looked great, Mundo. I'm sure. I'm sure the next episode
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is like them teaming together versus Ricky Reyes and little Cholo.
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Yeah right, you might be right. Actually, if not, you
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know a few because maybe the first taping they probably
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did like two shots of like something totally different for
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the live prod or whatever. But oh sure, yeah, I'm
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not positive, but I'm sure we'll talk about. I h
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it's got my juices.
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Talk about does a question for you you've seen sure
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season two and three, does does like the production change
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or does it kind of look like this throughout the entirety.
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Of this much looks like this, Like if anything changes,
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it's you know, they get kind of better with the shots,
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Like I don't know if there's always six fucking roamors.
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I think the cutting is pretty much what like what
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you're gonna get here, like kind of like in your face,
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Like all over the place, the lighting is all the same.
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Here they change maybe the canvas and little things like that.
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There's more people start coming, so like it fills out
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a lot more. But in terms of look, this is
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pretty much what they stay with for pretty much most
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of the run. Like I said, they eventually leave here
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to go to a different temple, and that one's a
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little brighter, which I also didn't love. Yeah, no's it
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stays pretty close to this.
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Sure, Okay, did you like this? I enjoyed it.
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Yeah.
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I thought it was a quick watch. You know, I've
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changed as a wrestling fan since this first aired. Sure,
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And you know I was able to get through everything
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I thought. You know, I was excited to see what
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they would do and the follow up. And I mean,
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I know that a lot of people think very highly
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of this show and it's run, and I'd like to
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also think highly of it. So I'd love to see
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more of it.
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Yeah, yeah, we'll have to keep tapping a dude. I mean,
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like Darioquato like changes what a general manager is in
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my brain because like you know, for years and years,
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like it's a heel fucking guy and the commissioner or
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02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:40.159
general manager like of course they're gonna be a dickhead
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and this, that and the other. There's tropes that like
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02:08:42.079 --> 02:08:45.960
kind of follow that forever, and Darioquato becomes not only
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02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:49.439
does this guy fucking fill this character out perfectly, but
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02:08:49.800 --> 02:08:51.880
what they do with them and how he is the
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02:08:51.960 --> 02:08:54.399
promoter and and what's important. I think you'll like it
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a lot kind of the how they play their promoter
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02:08:57.520 --> 02:09:00.840
role here where like you know, there's just a little
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02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:02.439
jumping out of here, but there's stuff where like you know,
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02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:05.279
there's you can cash in stuff, but you have to
2490
02:09:05.359 --> 02:09:07.600
give Dario like a week heads up because he needs
2491
02:09:07.640 --> 02:09:10.479
a week to promote the match, because that is cool. Yeah, yeah,
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02:09:10.479 --> 02:09:13.880
there's stuff like that like that makes the show super
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02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:15.840
fucking cool. And I'm excited, like you know, once we
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tap back more into this or however we want to
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do it for you to experience all that, and I'm
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excited to kind of relive this stuff too, because I sure, really,
2497
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I really liked a lot of this stuff. Well, that
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is it for Lucha Underground's debut episode, and that is
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it for our show. Thank you for joining us. Everybody,
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make sure to check us on on Patreon. That's patreon
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dot com slash Deadlock PW. You don't want to miss it.
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So many people signing up in the month of January
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are already join in with them, find out why everyone
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02:09:44.319 --> 02:09:46.399
loves it so much, and find out what we're doing
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over there. That's patreon dot com slash Deadlock PW. And
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we'll be back next week for another edition of the
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Deadlock Podcast.
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D Boys. Welcome to the Deadline Podcast, episode number three
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hundred and thirty three, three three three, twenty thirty three.
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Today we are talking about Lusha Underground, Season one, Episode one,
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first time ever.
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Debut episode of Lucha Underground. Highly requested, I think for
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years now, James the people. Yeah, I've been wanting us
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to do the Lucha Underground and we are tapping into it.
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I watched this when I debuted. James dipped a toe
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in and then very quickly we'll talk about that, why
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and everything surrounding the first episode of Lucha Underground. On
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this very episode.
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Before we get into that, we have the Deadlock updates.
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Oh yes, updates here the Deadlock. Oh here's an update
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for you. Last week on the pod, we did a retro.
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It was the go home show for In Your House
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Burial Live ninety six. It was really good. I had
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a really good time on it. Uh something something must
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have happened last week where nobody saw it. So you
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should go listen to that because it was good.
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You would enjoy it.
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Very well done. We had a good time. So go
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listen to that and then get back to us and
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let us know what you thought. And then listen to
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this one too. Hey. Also just you know, wanted to
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throw this out here too, because I've I've mentioned it
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a few times and I started to thinking about it.
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I was like, oh, I don't want people starting to
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just fucking think maybe I'm fucking for real dying because
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I talked about being on medication and ship the other week.
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So I'm I've been sick for like the better part
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of two months now, which is like why some things
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have been delayed here and there, and you know, it's
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it's all come out obviously, but uh, you know it's
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it's it's been pretty hard, uh, just trying to keep
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up with shit here. And thankfully my buddy here, James,
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will fucking make whatever I need to work work and
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he's always there for me and make sure or that's
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you know, if I if I can get it done,
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I get it done as easy as possible. And uh,
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it's fucking a joy to work with somebody like that
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and have somebody like that in my life. So I
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appreciate you very much, Bud.
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But I would like you to get better.
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Dude, Okay, so that'd be awesome. So I again, I
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just to I just want to let you guys, know,
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because I feel like it's been a minute since I
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fucking have said anything like this. We talked about, you know,
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dead locking in. Well, I've been fucking lifed out. I
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was sick and then I was good, and then I
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got bronchitis which put me down for like two weeks.
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So like if I sounded like shit on the show,
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shout out Beefy for making me not sound like shit
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and taking out a ton of coughs uh. And then
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I was good, and now I have the fucking shingles,
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man like. And when they told me that, I thought
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they were like lying, Like I went to an urgent
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care because I fucking had mad left side of my
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fucking face pain like it just had it felt like
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a headache on my eyebrow. My eyebrow was sens have
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felt like shit. And I was like, okay, I'll get
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this go checked out. They said shingles. I said, no way.
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I'm gonna take whatever they're gonna give me for a
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week and then I'm gonna find out really what I
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have when I go back to ask, hey, I'm still
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in pain. Uh yeah. It turns out super half shingles,
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which causes like a fucking rash on like one side
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of your face, which I'm glad I'm on a camera.
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I was able to get through last episode. Uh nerve
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stuff right, Yeah, yes, it's all nerve connected. So like
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along my eyebrow to my like my eye and my
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jaw on my ear has been unbelievably painful. I've been
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taking fucking like antibiotic pills and eye drops and now
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I'm on a steroid eye drop which makes my eye
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super sensitive to everything. Uh, which sucks so but but
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more getting to the good part of this, I'm okay,
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I'm alive. Everything is cool, and as you can see,
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we are still doing things as normal. But I want
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you all know, yeah, if some stuff is delayed here
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or there, it is my fault. And I apologize. I've
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just been dying. I've been dying and I can't stop dying.
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And hopefully this will be the end of it here
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soon and I'll be okay. But yeah, we're doing We're
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doing our best to keep up with everything we do here.
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James is doing his best to keep me alive. And
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and you know, James has had a adventurous fucking December
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that you know I won't make him go into but
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it has been pretty crazy December into January.
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But trying to send and you know, he'll get you, right.
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Yeah, yeah, he keeps telling me that and then he's
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falling up with he'll kill you, which doesn't I don't
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want to do that. I don't want to die. Sure, well,
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thank you, I'm I'm for your sake, I won't take that, Like,
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what do you do? What do you do?
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If I'm going, I'll go back to work on the docks.
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I guess, well, you're stuck here for a little bit longer,
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but you're stuck here with all of so yeah, so
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that's uh, that's what's going on. So again, I appreciate
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any anybody that had reached out to with any concern,
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but I'm good. But that's that's what's going on. Hey,
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there's an unbelievablemount of episode to watch this on there. Also,
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That now at a time for the Patreon shout out segment.
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song for Chase Richard's son?
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his fucking name. Damon demon, I'm getting stressed out. I'm
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feeling like.
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The Panthers and the Eagles won the same amount of
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games in the playoffs.
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Why and one that's not a pro fucking name.
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Uh we you guys won the Super Bowl like we
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were eight and nine like the Panthers. We almost beat
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the MVP. You know what, we'll talk about it here
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in a minute. Here we go, Jack Mickus, if you
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smell what the cock is cookie, come y'all can fly
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and pound your ways to the off season. Rams.
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That's not happening. Are you out of your mind? What
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like that's insane? Wow? Ok?
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on DVD from when I was a kid.
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By the way, if you all listen to this and
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you don't watch football, and you're even if like you
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you know this, this this show is introducing you to football,
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then you have to pick up Panthers or Eagles. And
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that's kind of it.
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If you don't live in the United States. A lot
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Basically, you follow along, especially, oh especially, get ready. Baseball
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season's coming up. We're about to go. Yeah, We're about
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to fucking have a fun fucking baseball season. So pick
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a team. Don't pick the Braves, pick the Phillies, please.
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Yeah, teams. You shouldn't pick Eagles for football, Phillies Mets
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for baseball. Uh, not the fucking Rams.
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I'll tell you that New York team we can agree on.
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Don't pick that.
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You weren't there for prime era Tom Brady, you can't
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pick the Pats.
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It's just being prime era. Drake May. Yeah.
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Hey, we'll see about that. When Michael Penis Junior comes
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Drake Drake May May is talking about to like do
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We'll get well, actually, you know what the Falcons are
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in my division, So you know what Michael penis doing.
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Has that been a name on here?
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Jack Duca Massawa?
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I think it has to be, And if not, there's
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gonna be three of them next week.
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One hundred and twenty dollars annual Genetic Freakazoid Matthew kloh
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and still the Patreon Champion of the World has sixty
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nine and sixty nine. Oh yes, Sour Smarties is asking
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if y'all want to form a griftball team.
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Have you changed your mind on that last week? You
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were no sure thing? Oh, there we go. Fucking things
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are already picking in twenty I won't be a part
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of any of that. I won't be a part of
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any of that, but I will.
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Part of catching the balls deep either. Thank you guys
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for listening, everybody. We're gonna get to the show.
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Now.
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Let's talk about the Patriot Q and A. All right
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now it is time for the Patreon Q and A segment.
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Question and answers, Question and answers. Do you hear this guy?
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Is that like I was trying something new? How does
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that feel?
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and the answers.
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That's what we get here. Yeah, yeah, I don't want
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to do it this week, so you do it.
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Short thing starting off here. First question we have here
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from the Patreon is from fuck Kevin Petullo's how you
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say that?
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That's yeah, that's yes. Really from now on i've heard both,
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Know, fuck Kevin Petullo and just fuck Kevin in general,
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like just seriously, man, seriously.
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We also Sirianni.
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That's okay. I mean maybe not as much he's you know,
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he's doing. You know, he got us to a lot
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of playoffs, like five of them. There was five of
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them he got him to.
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he dropped every single pass that came his way that
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I think a lot of people wanted to argue with A. J. Brown.
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I actually got right up to my TV and I
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He saw Sirianni fucking running a forty yard dash down
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the sideline. He said, I'm joining in.
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Yeah, man, I just started head button my fucking big
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screen TV and then singles.
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I started head butting my little screen TV.
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Thank you for Yeah. I was watching that game. Yeah,
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I know you were. It was frustrating a ship because
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you're a fucking you just jumped from team to team
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every fucking time, well every time it's somebody self in possession,
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you just jump back and forth. And it was fucking
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pissing me on.
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All right, Well here's the deal, uh. I like the
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forty nine Ers, you know, like I was a forty
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nine Ers fan growing up because my dad was a
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forty nine Ers fan growing up, because they grew up
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in a time where the Panthers weren't a team yet.
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So like that was like a deal.
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You know.
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Now I'm a Panthers fan because the Panthers exist, and
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when I was growing up, the Panthers were a thing, understanda.
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But I also love for the forty nine ers. I
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also rooted for the Eagles though.
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Yeah, but like it wasn't like it wasn't real, Like
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that was like there was something I wish I could remember.
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There was one thing he said that Like I put
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my phone down for like five minutes after because I
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was like, fuck this guy man, like he's telling me
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we're listening.
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Also, I have no idea what the question was. Next question,
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I don't Mimister asked if w c W had signed
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Amish Roadkill, how many episodes of Nitro would we currently
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be on.
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Well, so they had two hundred and eighty eight episodes.
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I think they would have if Amish Roadkill was signed,
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it would have ended at two hundred and fifty episodes.
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Yeah, I mean I think what it really came down to,
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because they definitely offered him big money, was that Oh
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you know, yeah, I've known that for a while.
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Yeah, sorry, this is well, you know, you give me
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the questions and the answers.
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Yeah, well here's the deal with that man, Amish Roadkill.
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You know, he came up in the house of hardcore,
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so he was pretty much locked down you.
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Know, guy's got a lot of money from them, like
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Mikey went Bradko Yeah, historic bags.
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Oh not right, Yeah, Chris Chetty was offered a lot
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until he blew out his legs.
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So yeah, that was a big deal back then. I
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can't well remember that road So Roadkill you're saying got
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a big This is like you're breaking some news here.
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Roadkill got a big money deal from w CW. Turned
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it down. Then East W and w CW both died
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and he just never got a job on TV. Again. Well,
388
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he did the heart attack in a dark match, right,
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which sacrilege.
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Yeah, yeah, it sucks that every team ever in ww
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F history does the heart attack, I guess attack.
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Yeah. So you're saying w c W would still be
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alive if Amish Roadkill was signed there.
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I'm I mean, look at it.
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I mean I think that uh I'm looking.
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Yeah, I think TBS, T and T would be impressed
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by what w c W thinks to the table.
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It's just the entire merger wouldn't have happened.
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Brad Seger would say, wait, I have an idea.
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Wow, yeah, really that's like a tew thing waiting happened.
401
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Like I want to see that.
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Yeah, I mean Amish roadkill leading a new segment of
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the nWo would have been pretty sweet. The Amished edi.
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If we were we're in w Amish.
405
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Pretty cool.
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I mean there's something, there's something to it, you know what.
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I'm I'm I might, I might be with you.
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Our next question comes from PS two humping the xbox.
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He says, I welcome the day with a show of light.
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I stealthily came here in the night. I bade the
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earthy stuff at dawn, but by noon, alas I'm gone.
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Who am I?
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Well?
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Thankfully this was answered by one of the other patrons,
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two tone Moonstone, who said, you're a Mark brother and
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that's there for that question.
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Damn wow, the fucking Q and a answer asked and
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answered on the pagetraon that might be a fund first.
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Next question here is from saying yeah, after every three
420
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syllable word, who do you think should bring the leather
421
00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:11.279
faced gimmick to American wrestling?
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Like, so it's already established that we all collectively think
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this is a good idea. Yeah, right right, okay, yes, hmmm,
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I'm thinking uh, I'm thinking King Barrett.
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What about ww's Fernando thoughts.
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We we've really been tapped into the roster for some
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reason lately. Uh and those are like two guys that
428
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stand out and uh Tatanka, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
429
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that's those are pretty good.
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If I had to give a better answer, like if we.
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Had if I literally had to pick this.
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If we had to make it work, right, and we
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had to pick somebody, and like we were like, we
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have the outfit, we have the we have the chainsaw
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with the sparks, we got everything, and we're gonna make
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this work. I think, yeah, I think that I would
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give it to Jake Something.
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Okay, I was thinking something, which is pretty fucked up.
439
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Yeah, I think he would work. He would have to
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work twice because I would still like him to be
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Jake Something.
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But we're getting like our boys getting paid double, you know.
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I mean that's kind of how old school wrestling worked anyways, right,
444
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Like you'd have five people and you'd somehow have you know,
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eight wrestlers on the show. Is because some of these
446
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guys go backstage, they put a mask on, they come
447
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back out of somebody else. I think that would work fantastically.
448
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Like when you bring back this character, it's not so
449
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much how his matches actually were, because most people that
450
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know this character don't know how his matches actually were.
451
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All they know is that he was a crazy fucking
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character chainsaw, and like their brain tells them that he
453
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was doing the most insane shit ever. So yeah, I'd
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have Jake go out there fucking power bomb outside of
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the ring, spinning, fucking sit out, oh my god, super bomb,
456
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you know, just come up with the craziest things you
457
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could do and then get the chainsaw and rev it
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up crazy or like people would be like there he is, like,
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come out and do the chainsaw over the head thing,
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you know.
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Just give it to trying to think of yeah, I
462
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mean like in terms of yeah, like the theatrics of it,
463
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Jake would be fucking fantastic at that. I'm trying to
464
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think if there's anybody else that like would fit that,
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even just body type wise like that, you know, if
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you were looking for like a true one to one
467
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or anything. But I don't damn, Jake was legit who
468
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I was thinking of. I don't know if there's anybody
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else that would be as good if we wanted like
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pretty sweet, Yeah, there's some you know people we probably
471
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just put anybody in there.
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Jake would be able to get the man or rhythms.
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That's the thing.
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I don't know. The other name that came to mind
475
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was bear Bronson. I think, Okay, ye kind of fits
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like he kind of fits the build, like he does
477
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all that fun you know, he you know, if this
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is deathmatch leather face, right, he'll go full bore on
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that ship, like you know, he'll and he you know,
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like I said, he kind of has the build and
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he's kind of he can be frantic. So yeah, Barre
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Bronson probably would be. If I'm not picking Jake, if
483
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I'm picking the death match guy, then bear Bronson. I think.
484
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If we're not picking Jake or Bear Bronson, maybe.
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Jim Ross, w w D, maybe Dammy missed.
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We have another question here from retro shot. He asks,
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this question is for Johnny, what is your favorite fire
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Pro game? I heard you have built quite the collection
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in Japan.
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I okay, thank, I mean god, I didn't know that
491
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this has taken on a life of its own. Yeah,
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I do have. I do have quite a wrestling game collection,
493
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and the trips to Japan have fucking I mean only
494
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tripled it. Really the first year I went I'm pretty
495
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sure I bought im not joking thirty five games home.
496
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I mean we walked in those stores and uh you
497
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can hell yeah, I guess no one's heard like the
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account of somebody that's been with me going video game
499
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hunting here that I buy stuff. Well, you do the
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first sweep initially, where you just kind of look around
501
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.160
see if you can catch any pro wrestling stuff. Then
502
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you do the second part of it, whereas everyone gets.
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Involved, which like is super nice. By the way, I
504
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don't like once in a while I'll say hey, like,
505
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have you seen anything, but like eventually if it's me,
506
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you sprite. I think last time we went, like Jake
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was looking domb like yeah, coup, Like, I think everybody
508
00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:59.559
would kind of got involved, where it's like, okay, we
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all need to see what wrestling games exist here, which
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is super helpful.
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00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.720
Yeah, so that's the second sweep. Third sweep is walking
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up to the cashier with the Google Translate and asking
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00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.880
if they have any pro wrestling games.
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00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.440
That's like Desperate Mode, which was a few on the
515
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last one, which works. By the way, they're not offended
516
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by the law. It's not like you're bothering them and
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like they usually know, like you know, if most because
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most you know, wrestling games in Japan will just have
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wrestling in the title. So at the very least, if
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they don't know it by I or you know, they
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know that it came in, like they can look it
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up on the computer. So that shit super fucking helpful.
523
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But yes, that is that is pretty much exactly what
524
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it is. I God, I it looks like I have
525
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.200
I own maybe ten to twelve different fire Pro games.
526
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That doesn't mean I've played all these though, Like a
527
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lot of shit I own, I actually still haven't touched.
528
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.000
But the most the fire Pro games that I played
529
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the most are Returns and World, and I'd probably say
530
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one of those two are are my favorite. World might
531
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.519
just get the edge just because I mean, good lord,
532
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.359
World has everything. World does everything, especially if you have
533
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.480
all the DC like and you have it on Steam, Like,
534
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.559
what an endless amount of just life that game has.
535
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.799
Like I could boot this game up tomorrow and it
536
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.960
turned it into an entirely different game if I wanted to.
537
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It's fucking fun. Returns has a special place in my
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heart just because I remember getting it. I didn't know
539
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it was released in America. I remember getting I'm pretty
540
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sure it was like twenty or thirty bucks at game stop.
541
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I remember, yeah, No, it was fucking awesome. And I
542
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remember learning how to like put saves onto a USB
543
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and putting it into my PS two so I could
544
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have like just a fucking unreal indie roster on it.
545
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:49.519
At the time.
546
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That was probably super cool back then.
547
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Dude, this was five, I want to say, or six
548
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something like that.
549
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I didn't play any Fire Pro games growing up, not
550
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.480
even Returns. No, I wasn't like a fire prop at all.
551
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:09.599
I did play, uh, the Xbox Arcade Fire Pro.
552
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.240
Okay, I played that as well as adult.
553
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.920
That ship was as I mean, that was a little
554
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.759
Avatar gold.
555
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.119
Yes, I had the gold. It was like, oh cool,
556
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.920
I'm playing as like a wrestler in this. I still
557
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.880
have all those Yeah, I do too. I don't understand
558
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.599
how that was made or why, or like what that
559
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.759
was about. That's like the furthest thing from a fire
560
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Pro game.
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00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.240
Ever, I can understand why they went for it. To
562
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.839
understand it, you truly have to look at it. The
563
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Xbox Arcade was unfucking real.
564
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.359
It was sick.
565
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.960
I mean it was so huge then, so like trying
566
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.240
to release something in that manner was a great idea.
567
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.119
It just yeah, it was just tough.
568
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.559
But of all the things like yeah, the fire Provice,
569
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.759
oh my god, wow, when you play your first fire Pro.
570
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.119
Then whenever that came out, world, Uh no, the fire Pro.
571
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.599
Was the first one. I oh oh, I mean, like
572
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.599
I sorry, like after that, like when.
573
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Did you like if you don't count that one?
574
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:17.400
Yeah yeah yeah, world, wow, no shit. Yeah. So it's
575
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.319
it's well, you took to it pretty well though, so
576
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:20.519
that's good. Oh.
577
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.000
I loved it. I thought it was super cool. I uh,
578
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.839
funny enough. I I you know, I see a lot
579
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.160
of people that also like maybe that's the first fire
580
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.920
Pro gam and they don't quite understand it. But I
581
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.319
never had that problem. Like I understood exactly what they
582
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.400
were going for right away.
583
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:35.559
Yeah, and it's like this is.
584
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.160
Fucking sweet, Like I can create and do I guess
585
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.319
maybe because like when we were growing up, we had
586
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.480
to put more imagination into the games. So like, I
587
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.240
don't see it as super face value as that I
588
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.119
can kind of in my head, it's a little more expansive,
589
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.079
I guess if that's a good way to put it.
590
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:55.680
So I kind of clicked with.
591
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.960
Fire Pro right away. I never had a problem with that,
592
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.839
but I have heard people are, you know, if they
593
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:02.839
have to take the games at like straight face value,
594
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:04.240
they have trouble with fire Pro Am.
595
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.400
Yeah, I mean if you've only played we games forever, right,
596
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.279
or like that's the only thing you really like, like
597
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.079
especially simulation style, like yeah, just yeah, I mean like
598
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.720
it's so fucking fine, Like it's so it's funny. I've
599
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.319
been seeing them pop up on my TikTok lately. Uh,
600
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.519
just like fire Pro World propaganda videos are like, yeah,
601
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.599
this game is the best fucking game ever. I'm like, oh,
602
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:30.680
holy shit, maybe it is. I want to play this again. Yes, yeah,
603
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.759
I love the fire programs. There's, like I said, there's
604
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.319
so many that I haven't touched that I I do
605
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.880
want to. But if i'm if I'm picking, I'm fire
606
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.759
Pro World is is fucking the perfect fire Pro game
607
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.880
for me. Yeah.
608
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.480
I've put a ton of hours in the world, man, like.
609
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.519
We gotta play I kind of.
610
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.359
I mean, even when we're not creating content, Like there's
611
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.079
so many times where just chilling just have Fire Pro up,
612
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:52.960
just fucking playing.
613
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:55.799
We did that, Like I don't remember when that was,
614
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.400
but that was like, uh, it might have been before
615
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.400
Roger or Visportez was broke for us and we were
616
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.359
like doing that in the DPW ring and fire thro.
617
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.960
Yeah, there was actually you know, I guess we can
618
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:09.960
pull the curtain back a little bit here.
619
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:10.960
Sure.
620
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.159
But with DPW initially, like when we were first setting up,
621
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.360
like how we want like the ring and everything to
622
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.800
look no joke, like, went into Photoshop, created the assets,
623
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.880
loaded it into fire Pro World, put it on the ring. Yeah,
624
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.039
and then we said, yep, this is the one.
625
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.440
I remember I was at I remember I was at
626
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.800
Deb's parents house on my laptop and we were talking
627
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.239
about it and you were like, man, like, how should
628
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:41.800
this look? And I don't. It was one of our
629
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.880
ideas that said what would like what does this look
630
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.360
like in fire Pro? And then you just booted up
631
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.239
and like did it? And we were like, ah, I
632
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.800
think I do think there was a couple of changes
633
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:51.639
we made too, because I was.
634
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:56.079
Like, yeah, we tried a couple of different mats, yeah,
635
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:01.800
turn buckles, we tried all orange tropes, yeah, all orange, and.
636
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.039
Then ultimately yeah, so like the first DPW ring before
637
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.559
it came to existence, before we put any orders.
638
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:14.199
Was the fire Fro Creation, which is fucking pretty cool. Yeah, no, yeah,
639
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:15.800
and then we just kind of ran a bunch of
640
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.800
matches in it, like it just became like our default
641
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.880
fucking round offline ring. And we have one more question
642
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.519
here from Pickles.
643
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.639
Sorry, I just love saying that words.
644
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:40.079
No, I just love saying pickles. Pickles asks, what are
645
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.199
your favorite current bands?
646
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:51.239
Slayer like fucking I don't know, Ozzy Osbourne.
647
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.199
I mean, here's the deal, Like Park, we're in our thirties.
648
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880
You know, we're in our thirties. The music we listen
649
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.639
to is just the music that we listened to.
650
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:03.440
When we were young.
651
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.920
Again true, I mean I have some favorite current bands.
652
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.760
I mean, if you really thought about it, I bet
653
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:09.760
you could figure out some.
654
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.800
Bet I mean, wish I listened to a lot now
655
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.559
they're like, yeah, there you go. There's one knock Loose
656
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.760
I've been you know. Yeah, knock Loose is a great
657
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.119
when I listen to them too. Who else do I
658
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:20.880
funk with? Let me say, I'm I'm trying to actually
659
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:26.679
look through my uh my fucking because there's some I do.
660
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.519
Yeah, if you go to on repeat, you can probably
661
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:35.079
find some bands or something that like maybe you uh.
662
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.760
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot that's even the thing. Well,
663
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.199
there's some old bands I like that, Like AFI has
664
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.000
been doing some stuff that I actually like. There's still
665
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:48.119
I've done recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're still dope. Those
666
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.719
are the three that I probably. I mean, Ghost obviously,
667
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.199
that's fucking you know good Lord of course.
668
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:54.800
Yeah you're super into Ghost.
669
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.119
Yeah, I mean I I you know, I could uh,
670
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.320
I could give or take their the album they came
671
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.119
out with last, but you know there's I still still
672
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.159
like them. Sure, yeah, what about you? Who else do you?
673
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:07.400
Maybe there's something that we have.
674
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.400
Yeah, I've been listening to Heart to Gold a lot recently.
675
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.719
Locke Shut is another band that I've been listening to
676
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.039
a lot recently. Tiger's Jaw has a new album coming out.
677
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.519
I'm excited for that. Oh yeah, Dying Wish, Knock Loose
678
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.920
like you said, or bands now listen to pretty regularly.
679
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.840
Guilt Trip is a good band. Oh I like Guilt Trip,
680
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.480
yeah as much as.
681
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.800
I like this. Oh you've you've told me about them? Yeah?
682
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:35.639
Yeah, they have some I think they're recording a new
683
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.159
album now or or doing something like that. So Hot
684
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920
Mulligan's new stuff is good. They make Kyle Fletcher's theme song.
685
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.360
Dad likes Hot Mulligan. I just got her like Hot
686
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.039
Mulligan merch for Christmas. She just got into them heavy.
687
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.800
So that's I heard them a bit too. Yeah.
688
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:50.440
Yeah, I've been listening to them for a minute. I
689
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.480
was surprised they were the band that broke through. Uh.
690
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.159
And it's just I think it's the same deal with
691
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.400
knock Loose. Like when I was listening to Hot Mulligan,
692
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.559
a big hang up for like a lot of people
693
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.960
at the time was like this guy sounds fucking just different,
694
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.000
Like he just sounds sure, not like a band that
695
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.840
would break through to like a mainstream audience. But they did,
696
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:11.599
you know. And like, I don't know if there's been
697
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:13.559
a band as hot as Hot Mulligan since, like the
698
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.000
story so far, broke through when I.
699
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.559
Was in high school. No, I don't think so. Yeah,
700
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.400
like they they get like radio radio play, right.
701
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.239
Yeah, they're doing super well, which is awesome to see.
702
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.000
Do this funny there was a band it just showed up.
703
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.800
I was doing like a fucking Spotify like radio game
704
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.320
or whatever, and H two O showed up. But I
705
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:33.960
was like, oh this, I know I've heard of this
706
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.800
fucking man, like a buddy of mine, my buddy Dan,
707
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.679
like would tell me about them all the time. Okay,
708
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.239
I'll listen. There's stuff I'm like, oh, this is dope,
709
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.840
Like one of the last time they did anything. Okay, man,
710
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.519
that's been like almost ten years.
711
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.920
Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean with music ten years
712
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.039
is still active, you know. But yeah, knock Loose was
713
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.559
the same way as Hot Mulligan. Like I remember when
714
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.360
I first started listening to Knock Loose, you know, the
715
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.880
big hang up for everybody too was like the lead
716
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.920
singer of this band sounds crazy like this, that's like
717
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:07.920
this won't work.
718
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.480
And then that's another band that I heard of, dude,
719
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.239
oh my god, unbelievably working. And like that's a band
720
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.559
I heard of forever ago too, from my fucking buddy Dan,
721
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.400
my buddy Dan, and you actually probably have a lot
722
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:23.760
of Yeah, he's like a you know, New Jersey hardcore guy,
723
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.119
so like that's you know, I'm sure it's pretty close
724
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.199
to all the ship you like. But yeah, he was
725
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.280
talking to me, tell me about them forever ago, and
726
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.880
like then we saw him, I was like, oh, this
727
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.199
is Okay, this makes sense. I like this, Who's who's
728
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:46.960
playing in Japan when we're and right, yes, that's it was, yeah,
729
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:47.800
which is pretty cool.
730
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.320
And that's all the questions we got. Thank you guys,
731
00:39:51.320 --> 00:40:02.960
so much unbelievable. All right, let us get into the
732
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:08.039
very first episode of the very first season of Lucha Underground.
733
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:09.440
I was going to try to do like this, you know,
734
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.320
I usually say a song here, but they only are
735
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:18.599
known for the bumper sound burn b yeah, which I
736
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:19.920
don't even know if it's a sound that they use
737
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.199
on this first episode. I don't know if that's established yet.
738
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.280
It's like a different I think I heard it at
739
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.840
the very beginning okay, yeah, at the very beginning of
740
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:32.320
the show. Right, it does go right into that very beginning.
741
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:37.639
Burn, which sets the stage for what we come to
742
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.039
expect it for Luca Underground. Just whatever. All the time,
743
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:47.000
this has been actually a highly requested retro, and I
744
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.119
think maybe we avoided it because it made me feel
745
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:57.199
old because this is twenty fourteen we're talking about here,
746
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.039
and I was like, wow, okay, like, I guess that
747
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.360
isn't kind of the area because we've done twenty fourteen teen.
748
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.239
A's so like, I guess it's fair play, but it
749
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.840
just feels wrong because I watched this. I watched this
750
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.920
when it aired, so I feel just like an old
751
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.599
piece of shit. Well, let's talk about what was going
752
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.960
on in the world wrestling time with the Wrestling Observer newsletter.
753
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.800
I'm gonna do it a little different. I did this
754
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.280
for XWF, so if you've listened to those, it's kind
755
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.440
of like that. I'm gonna go kind of over a
756
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.639
time period here of just the Observer talking about the
757
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.239
formation of Lucha Underground, what it was gonna like. You know,
758
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.119
the first idea is that YadA YadA, YadA, kind of
759
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.239
just the dripped news feed of what we were looking
760
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.000
at the time, just to get an idea of what
761
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.480
things were looking like going into this first episode. So
762
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.920
from The Observer. January twentieth, twenty fourteen. The official announcement
763
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.000
of Triple A's attempt to break into the US market
764
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.159
and a television deal with the new l Ray Network. Yeah,
765
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.320
came over the weekend when Scott Sasa L Ray Networks
766
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.760
vice chairman, made the announcement on January twelfth at a
767
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.320
press tour. I'm at the point in my career where
768
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.639
I could probably try anything, said Burnett at the announcement.
769
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.760
Burnett is god afrigat.
770
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.480
I don't know why, don't even executive producer.
771
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.039
Is that what it was? I think that's right. Yeah.
772
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.639
I forget his first name here, I had it written down,
773
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.400
but he he's done a lot of stuff. He did
774
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.679
he like produced like Survivor and a lot of popular shows.
775
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.480
So I think, uh, he's like pretty much saying here
776
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.800
like I can do whatever, and I wanted to try wrestling,
777
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.480
which I thought was pretty cool.
778
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.360
Yeah, I mean, this is definitely an interesting take on it.
779
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.480
You can kind of feel right away that there's a
780
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.199
big vision here for what this should be.
781
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.760
Yeah, he says, uh, why wouldn't you bring Mexico's number
782
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.920
two sport to America? This is a long term, big
783
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:41.559
play for us. And also they said besides the weekly
784
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.719
television show, there would be a variety of major wrestling
785
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.960
TV specials on the station, which they did do like
786
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.440
Ultimate Luca and Shure like that, as well story lines
787
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.360
building around building two pay per V shows, which I
788
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.000
don't I don't think they did pay per view if
789
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.280
I'm not mistaken. Okay, it's always just like a big
790
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:56.880
special one.
791
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.239
I guess in twenty fourteen, at the time pay per
792
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.360
views were tough. A lot of people were trying Ie
793
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:05.360
pay per views was on the horizon, sh'll go live.
794
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.880
Yeah it was not working.
795
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.920
No, yeah, it was awful.
796
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.280
Uh you know fuck yeah, I mean, god damn, I'll
797
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.079
never forget the Wrestle Kingdom on Fight just unbelievably bad,
798
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:20.679
to the point.
799
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.360
Where it was funded everybody. I mean even at the
800
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.519
same time. Yeah, go what would it go? Was it
801
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:27.880
go fight live? That was the other one, right?
802
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:28.159
Yeah?
803
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:29.400
I think was that the one?
804
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:30.679
Yeah that's right.
805
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.920
Yeah, that was fucking bad. Like that killed r O
806
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:34.679
H for a minute.
807
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.880
Yeah, I mean New Japan was streaming on U stream.
808
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.719
I do you guys even.
809
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.079
My god? Yeah, dude, the first stream I ever did
810
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.000
was on U stream.
811
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.920
Yeah, I mean people would get the U stream and
812
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.400
then restream it ad justin TV just because you stream
813
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:50.960
is so fun.
814
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.599
Yeah. Now just says The television show will be built
815
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:56.800
around a storyline where they will introduce five baby face
816
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.519
stars to build the American brand around. The idea is
817
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.400
the wrestlers have discovered that there is a plot to
818
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.880
destroy Lucha Libre and somehow because they knew too much.
819
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.840
The powers that be have exiled them to the United States.
820
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.000
That kind of changes, It does change, yeah, yeah, and
821
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.280
some more of like the Aztec tribe kind of thing
822
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.519
where they're all kind of coming together. But so that's
823
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.199
that's the first like press release about Luca Underground. Doesn't
824
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.639
have a name yet. It's just a Triple A product
825
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.760
that the l RAY Network is bringing to America. So
826
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.559
that's January of twenty fourteen. Then the next time we
827
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.159
hear about it is July twenty first, twenty fourteen. The
828
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Observer says the l RAY Network announced on seven to
829
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nine at the Television Critics Association Press Junket that they
830
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.559
would be airing a one hour Wednesday night show starting
831
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:47.119
on October eighth. The show is tentatively easy for me
832
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.280
to say, titled Lucha Uprising and would feature the stars
833
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.559
of Triple A and be produced by Mark Burnett of
834
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:56.800
Survivor Fang. There we go, Mark Burnett. They only announced
835
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.199
there would be eight episodes for the first season, so
836
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.840
they're not treating a traditional wrestling show with a weekly commitment,
837
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.239
but more like a seasonal reality show. No word on
838
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.280
when the first taping will take place past the point.
839
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.519
The date has been changed at least once, so this
840
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:13.880
date does change, doesn't air October eighth. But Lucha Uprising
841
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.559
was the first name of this fucking show, not Luca Underground.
842
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.320
Yeah, Luca Underground is great branding, especially with the temple
843
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.840
that they end up using and the things that they
844
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.840
do here in La I believe is where they're filming
845
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.320
all this stuff, that's right. So yeah, I mean the
846
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.800
biggest strength of Lucha Underground was its branding and its feeling.
847
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.360
I think that that's what most people remember from this show,
848
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.079
is like the very unique setting and the very unique
849
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.159
items and branding the feel to bring to the table.
850
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.880
Yeah, and that's, uh, you know, that was a big
851
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.000
part of this. I mean, that's it seemed like that
852
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.320
was the vision from the start that they were going
853
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.119
to try to do like a television show instead of
854
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.920
just like a wrestling show, which doesn't always work.
855
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.400
But super interesting, but yeah, it doesn't work a lot.
856
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.760
So here's the next part. Next time we hear about
857
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.679
Lucha Uprising from The Observer August twenty fifth, twenty fourteen,
858
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.320
So jumping a little closer to debut here, Meltzer says,
859
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.119
as things stand right now. They'll be doing TV tapings
860
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.679
for the l RAY Network on September sixth and September
861
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.440
seventh from a sound stage studio warehouse in Boyle Heights,
862
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.360
a part of Los Angeles. The scheduled debut on the
863
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.079
l RAY Network is on October eighth, in a Wednesday
864
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.599
night time slot. From the little bits that have come out,
865
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.599
the idea from the money and the production people at
866
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.599
l RAY is to do something completely different from any
867
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.639
pro wrestling or Lucha libre. There are two writers working
868
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.679
on the season, one of whom has never worked in wrestling,
869
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.239
and the other is Christopher to Joseph, who spent years
870
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.400
in w as a writer and also played the character
871
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:52.760
Big Dick Judson. Oh Wow, yes though with the Sandman
872
00:46:52.880 --> 00:47:02.440
guy Yeah, oiled up, oiled up for Lucha Libre, which
873
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:03.880
somehow doesn't make it on the show.
874
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.800
I don't think they had him at the Junket.
875
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.559
He was. He was doing the Singapore Cane spot at
876
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.440
the Junket with the l RAY team.
877
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.760
And a big part of our upcoming Luca Uprising.
878
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:18.199
The show.
879
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:26.199
Big Dick just said, all right, we're gonna call it
880
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.480
Luca Underground. This guy is not coming within one hundred.
881
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.920
Yards in kick this guy's fucking ass, actually chade him outside.
882
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:34.840
Yeah, I want take him back there, take the oil
883
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.039
off of them, and then beat.
884
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.840
The pow wow things. James has never said take the
885
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:39.559
oil off that.
886
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.559
We need the oil. Just take the oil, beat this
887
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.840
guy to death of the ammers.
888
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:48.920
Melzer says it will not be like Triple A Wrestling
889
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.719
in Mexico, but we'll use some of the stars of
890
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.400
Triple A along with p tw BG stars. Names that
891
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.559
we've heard confirmed from the show include Ricky Reyes, Joey Ryan,
892
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:04.440
Chavo Grower, Junior That's What's Wrong, Sean Hanna Gone aka
893
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:05.960
John Morrison.
894
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.880
Stars, Ricky Rayes, Joey Ryan, shav Ger her name.
895
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.159
Yeah Phoenix, and John Hennegan. Also don't forget if our
896
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.519
Berto del Rio can get his non compete overturned, he'll
897
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.760
likely be pushes the big star fairly quick. Dude.
898
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.360
I am so glad the show wasn't whatever.
899
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.599
This was. Wow, This like was really scary at the
900
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:29.079
start here.
901
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:33.000
Huh Yeah, I mean we see Ricky rays on this show.
902
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.440
Listen, mad respect for Ricky Reyes, but how the hell
903
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.239
is he the first.
904
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.320
Ricky Reyez? I mean, if there's one thing Ricky Rayez
905
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.679
is gonna do, it's find a fucking job in wrestling.
906
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.639
He's getting bunked.
907
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.199
Ye, He's gonna get a fucking job in wrestling. Like
908
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.360
that's like all wrestling is is like literally your ability
909
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.320
to be booked. So uh, Ricky ray As was very
910
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:55.760
good at that.
911
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.320
Yeah. From The Observer, September one, twenty fourteen. A month
912
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.960
later here. The long talked about debut of pro wrestling
913
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.280
on the fledgling l Ray network was officially announced in
914
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.719
a press release by the network on August twenty seventh,
915
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.440
with the first television taping taking place on September six
916
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.360
at a studio and Boil Heights. Mark Burnett's one to
917
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.480
three Media Yeah, which has produced such as The Survivor
918
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.519
of the Voice and Celebrity Apprentice, will be behind the
919
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.119
project that is going to be called Luca Undergrounds. So
920
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.159
now we finally have a name change here. I wonder.
921
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.159
I think luc Undergrounds is way better name, by the way,
922
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.719
But I wonder what made them change it up.
923
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:36.199
I think because the show probably changed a little bitity yeah, right, Like,
924
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.599
how can we present what the show is going to
925
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.840
be like to the audience and Uprising definitely doesn't really
926
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.079
follow the same branding rules as Underground would for sure.
927
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.239
The decision was made a tape in a small area
928
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.400
as opposed to a major arena in Mexico or the
929
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.760
Southwest in an attempt to create the kind of atmosphere
930
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.719
that PBG shows in the area have generated. So that's
931
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.199
you know, gritty and small building. I mean, that's no ac.
932
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.039
The guy that runs in hates everyone there.
933
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:03.920
Well, there's a little bit to say about that, jails
934
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:09.639
because from the Observer September eighth, twenty fourteen, it might
935
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.199
actually be one of these next ones, but there is
936
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.000
talk of the actual place that they run here being
937
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.480
not that great. Aside from website listings, some online tweets
938
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.519
and posts and flyers on the cars of those who
939
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.000
attended the p TOBG shows over the weekend in Rosita,
940
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.480
and some posted signs in the area, there doesn't seem
941
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.559
to be much publicity for the weekend tapings. There are
942
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.960
a lot of complaints going around regarding the contracts offered
943
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.239
as well. The wording of the contracts includes exclusivity for
944
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.440
seven television seasons, which scares people regarding how long seven
945
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.440
seasons could be given. It could be and probably means
946
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.039
seven years if this first off.
947
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:50.760
Yeah, seven years for seven seasons is already super optimistic.
948
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.280
I mean, look at the way television is produced today,
949
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.920
seven seasons would legit take fifteen years. I'm not fucking.
950
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.639
Kidding, dude, I mean it would legit. This last this
951
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.280
last what four years? I guess they get four years
952
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.000
out of force, you know, four seasons, but like you know,
953
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:09.159
I can't.
954
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.559
I don't know who knows, dude, pandemic hits. The way
955
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.920
TV is produced has changed forever. They would be locked
956
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.280
into these contracts to this to this.
957
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.960
Day, they would have been on the Brett Hart deal.
958
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.000
Like it would have been horrible. I remember, yeah, the
959
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.559
breakdown on these contracts because a lot of guys were
960
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.159
signed to these long term deals and like the business
961
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.800
had changed so much over that time, and people so
962
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.519
quick begging to get out of these loocha underground contracts
963
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.280
just beg.
964
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:46.239
Yes, well, I mean especially once AW pops up, right, yeah, like,
965
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.559
oh my god, you know NXT's popping off. Aw's fucking
966
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.960
coming around the corner. Like these guys. Ricochet is stuck
967
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:55.840
in a seven year deal. I remember that being a
968
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.639
big fucking deal all the time, like him trying to
969
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.760
get out of that. There were a few other people
970
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.360
that were, like, you know, Brian Cage I think might
971
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.920
have been one of those. Yeah, you know, because tn
972
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.360
A is still doing shit too, you know, TENA is
973
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.719
always fucking doing something. They you know, people were trying
974
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.360
to go this, that and the other. And seven years
975
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.239
is that's I mean Stone Cold wasn't even on top
976
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:18.480
for seven years.
977
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:22.480
Yeah, I mean every era you've ever liked in wrestling
978
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:23.960
probably didn't last seven years.
979
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:24.360
Uh.
980
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.079
You know, it's just like when you look at it
981
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.239
and you break it down, like in twenty fourteen specifically,
982
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.480
it probably seemed okay, you know, like, yeah, I don't
983
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.039
really know what the landscape of wrestling looks like. It
984
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.119
doesn't look like it's gonna get much better for the
985
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.039
guys that are in ROH or doing PWG. You know,
986
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.840
like maybe one or two guys makes it to WWE,
987
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.679
but that's kind of always been the case. Yeah, I mean,
988
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.559
in the next few years, I mean it is literally
989
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:55.719
a max It is literally a mass exodus of indie
990
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.639
guys two big companies. Yeah, right, And you make a
991
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:03.239
good point. Wait, aw comes around. I mean they're signing
992
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.000
anyone that's available at that point.
993
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.039
Holy, I mean, dude, especially if you work in California.
994
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.559
Uh yeah. So Meltzer says if this goes nowhere, but
995
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:14.320
saysn't exist as much of the talent doesn't want their
996
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.880
careers paralyzed or to make a commitment that pretty much
997
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.079
well kills their dreams of going we for so many years.
998
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.599
On August twenty nine, five number of wrestlers offered contracts
999
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:25.760
were told that it was a now a take it
1000
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.119
or leave its situation and told they had a deadline
1001
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:33.360
of September second to sign or their roles would be recasted. Yeah. Man,
1002
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.559
I mean that's also so there's a name specifically that
1003
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.079
we I mentioned here in that other one, Hernandez. No, well,
1004
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.559
I mean, dude, oh my god, the rock showed up
1005
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.519
would have done wonders for everybody. Fuck the contracts.
1006
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.000
Yeah, you have six days to sign this fucking contract
1007
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.920
or we're recasting your role to Ricky Reyaz.
1008
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.440
And it'll be a way better rock than you or Bud.
1009
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.039
So Hernandez does go to Luca Underground, but it's not
1010
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.440
like he was supposed to be on this like first
1011
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:09.920
turn of it, and I don't know.
1012
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:14.000
What hernandez entire second part of his career is him
1013
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.480
being fucked up in these contract deals.
1014
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:17.960
Yeah, that's fun.
1015
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.159
I mean, good lord, the Lucha Underground deal and then
1016
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.480
what kind of deal he had with TNA, Yeah, the
1017
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.480
TNA deal. Yeah, good lord. There was just so much
1018
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:27.960
going on.
1019
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.639
Yeah, he always was kind of going through it. But
1020
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.440
I like Hernandez. I kind of wish he would have
1021
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:34.079
been on this early.
1022
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:38.360
I loved the first half of Hernandez's career, oh my god, Like,
1023
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.920
I absolutely adore it. I think it's one of the
1024
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.280
best like tag runs that TNA ever had for anyone ever.
1025
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.960
I don't know if he was ever able to recapture
1026
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.920
that lightning in a bottle that him and Homicide.
1027
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.760
Had Homicide, Yeah, yeah, I mean.
1028
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.960
How many guys even get to have that lightning at
1029
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:55.599
a bottle, you.
1030
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.239
Know, right, Like Lax will be remembered forever as like
1031
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.280
the best tag team of that time, which is crazy
1032
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.960
because there was a lot of great tag teams, and.
1033
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:09.800
Yeah, had a good gaggle of tag that's a good word.
1034
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:16.000
I like that. A couple more things here as we
1035
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.760
round out, going into the debut here from The Observer
1036
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.960
September fifteenth, twenty fourteen, So the show has been taped.
1037
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.039
The first show was taped in a largely empty studio
1038
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:29.719
with a few wrestling fans at most extras, maybe one
1039
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.360
hundred people in total, who were mostly hired to be
1040
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.280
studio audiences at television shows and were being paid nine
1041
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.800
dollars to act as fans, but in a building with
1042
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.960
no air conditioning and them having no emotional attachment, they
1043
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.599
just sat there. For the most part, there weren't even
1044
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.400
enough to come close to filling the building. Aside from
1045
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.320
wrestling websites and social media, the only word regarding tickets
1046
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.800
was flyers put on cars at the PDBG Battle of
1047
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:56.840
Los Angeles shows the previous week. Dude, Okay, before I
1048
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:03.199
continue starting a show, a wrestling show seemingly in the
1049
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:08.480
vicinity of PWG a week after the Battle of Los Angeles,
1050
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.320
like you're fuck dude.
1051
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.159
You know I was gonna talk about it later in
1052
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.119
this show, But I also just want to remind you
1053
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.840
this is Roddy on Top era PWG. This is the
1054
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:24.039
champs here, Roddy erawg uh, I mean, this is an
1055
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:27.760
unreal time for them. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe the
1056
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:32.000
idea here is like they're trying to capture that same deal.
1057
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.119
I mean, PWG was so fucking hot at this point,
1058
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:38.320
I mean untouchable. Yeah, I like it's hard to explain
1059
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.559
if you weren't like just kind of caught up in
1060
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.719
that deal there. But like they were so high and
1061
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.320
it was just a fucking once a month indie running
1062
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.920
in LA and yeah, it was just so unbelievable, and
1063
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.239
like the deal is. I think they saw that and
1064
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.880
they're like, you know, maybe we can try to I mean,
1065
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.239
it's what they read here and there a ways was
1066
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.280
you know, they saw that and they were like, let's
1067
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.760
try to like capture that same feeling here. It's just
1068
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.639
hard to do. I mean, like there's only one PWG man.
1069
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.159
I mean, dude, I'm coming out coming out of twenty
1070
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.239
fourteen Bowler and I come outside and on my car
1071
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.840
there's a picture of Traval Guerrero. I'm fucking double stomping
1072
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:21.119
by Winchild. Dude, I mean, yeah, the fucking yeah, I'm
1073
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:22.960
in a POBG show. The only P two BG guy
1074
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.880
you got on this flyers Joey Ryan, I'm stopping by
1075
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.639
fucking Witch with the fucking away from me. I'm showing
1076
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.119
it to the Super Dragon. He's fucking kicking my windshielding
1077
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.800
now too, Like we're both really mad.
1078
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:36.039
Dude, I cannot believe that Super Dragon was not a
1079
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.159
part of this fucking deal. I mean, I know by
1080
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:41.440
that point Super Dragon was kind of semi retired, he
1081
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.639
just wanted to dowg But I mean, would have been
1082
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:49.280
a fucking vibe. Yeah, what if it was Ricky Reya's
1083
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:53.440
little cholo and Super Dragon. That would have been fucking nuts.
1084
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.440
And they come in and they stomp dude shoot style
1085
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:56.639
in the middle of this fucking.
1086
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.679
Ring, even if he was just their boss, Like, holy shit,
1087
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.320
it's super Dragon and he's in the masking dude fingers, Yeah, what.
1088
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.920
If it was What if it was super Dragon? Ricky
1089
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.280
rays a little cello and they beat them, but then
1090
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.639
they learn, oh my god, they were actually a part
1091
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:11.719
of a bigger deal.
1092
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:17.239
I mean nuts, dude, Yeah, And like, why the fuck not? Right,
1093
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.239
Like they just invent dudes on this show. They could
1094
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.000
even if you don't know Super Dragon, this is a
1095
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.360
fucking like a show show. They could just make. Oh
1096
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:29.039
my god, super Dragon, everyone knows him. I'm equato fucking
1097
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:31.800
oh my god, the fucking my answers has talked about
1098
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.840
this guy dude, right, Like for.
1099
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.440
The fans who know who Super Dragon is, they'd be like,
1100
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.840
oh shit, this is super crazy. Like what I'm looking
1101
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:39.239
at this is.
1102
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.679
Super super Dragon? Why super crazy? Not here? Yes?
1103
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.719
Right, okay? What if they took down Super Dragon and
1104
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.760
then they go to a guy that's even higher than
1105
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.440
him and it's super crazy?
1106
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.480
Fucking shit, Oh my god, oh my god.
1107
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.280
These are the questions they keep you up at night.
1108
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.119
And then finally at the top of the fucking food
1109
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:04.480
Champon's super Eric.
1110
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.199
He's locked in for a twenty year deal in Lucia Underground.
1111
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:12.280
He's in seven.
1112
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.480
Guys. I hate to tell you, but I'm never leaving
1113
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.599
this place, and neither are you.
1114
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.239
Ah. That's how it ends the season.
1115
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.480
What what, what really should have happened is they should
1116
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.880
have started with Blue Daymon and Chavo. Blue Daymon uh
1117
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.000
Pole drives him straight off the apron to the floor,
1118
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.079
and then Super Dragon walks out and Curb stomps him
1119
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:43.159
into the concrete and then Blue Super Dragon dap up
1120
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:44.679
like Dylan and Arnold.
1121
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:55.320
And Sean has both of them in the hot tub
1122
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:56.400
on YouTube next week.
1123
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:03.480
Anyways, fucking Curbs Thompson the daft up right, it pans out,
1124
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:09.440
give me the long shot and here's Deshawn's two cents
1125
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.800
with Conan and the hot tub. So tell me about
1126
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:16.400
this Prince Puma guy.
1127
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.119
Wow. I mean, like guys in a tome machine could
1128
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:25.480
have really did something here, you know, like this is
1129
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.480
what does scene needed, not fucking Chopper.
1130
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.239
I mean, I'm fired up just at the thought of
1131
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.760
Blue Damon and super dragging dapping the fuck up, Like
1132
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:37.840
that's the first thing.
1133
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.519
You see on the show that would be I mean, Natalie,
1134
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:42.280
doesn't happen.
1135
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:52.159
Doesn't happen today, yell, oh shit Dragon, He's just there,
1136
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.840
he stands up out of the crowd.
1137
01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:00.880
Sho. I do by the way, that there was the
1138
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.119
first person that they considered for commentary. Please just I'm
1139
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.760
sure you know it's every company ever has considered this
1140
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:15.000
guy for the commentary. Who good Old Jr? Oh my god, really,
1141
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:25.559
oh my god, my god, oh shit. Meltzer says there
1142
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.760
were virtually no Hispanic fans at the first show, but
1143
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.880
Blue Daimon Jr. And Dorian Rowland on Twitter promoted the
1144
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.039
second night of the tapings and gave the address, just
1145
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.880
telling fans to show up. Blue Daimon Junior posted addresses
1146
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:43.800
show the fuck up, bitch if you dare. There was
1147
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.119
a part here I didn't include, but there was a
1148
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.199
bit of a so I guess Chavo and Conan were
1149
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.920
two of the agents, and uh, Chalvo was telling him
1150
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.440
to do a more WB style and to slow it
1151
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:56.920
down and not to do a bunch of shit, and
1152
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:58.400
Conan was saying, you guys got to do P two
1153
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.639
BG shit and go crazy, right.
1154
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:07.800
I mean twenty fourteen, like I was, I swear to god,
1155
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:09.880
I was super I was just super jaded. I wanted
1156
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.400
Big Bomb wrestling. Of course, I didn't want anything that
1157
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.760
resembled WWE at the time. Oh and like, while I
1158
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.559
can understand maybe where child is going from, I would
1159
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.199
never say I want you to wrestle more like the WWE.
1160
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.320
I think the better way to say it was, maybe,
1161
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.320
you know, we figure out how to like do some
1162
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.280
different shit differently, right. I would never ever start a
1163
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.039
conversation with let's wrestle like the WWE.
1164
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.679
Especially a division guy.
1165
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.639
Yeah, I think there's just a lot of negative connotation
1166
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.719
that comes with that. I I mean, like, if I
1167
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.000
look at it earnestly. I understand what he was trying
1168
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:45.880
to say, but I all.
1169
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.360
Sure, of course it's not just.
1170
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.760
Yeah, I just recoil when I hear wrestle like the WWE,
1171
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.960
it just sounds like just shit it up tonight for me, fellas.
1172
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.840
Yeah, just take it easy tonight, right, Yeah, And which
1173
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.840
is not I don't it's it's not what he meant.
1174
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.199
It's not what he meant, but it's like break.
1175
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.519
That's the connotation though.
1176
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.920
Because like for the longest time it was like I'm
1177
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:15.519
so fucking sick of hearing yeah right, yeah, right, like
1178
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:17.320
I don't want this ship to.
1179
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.320
Be w W e h if if you want to put
1180
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:20.800
it that way.
1181
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.039
Yeah, So it's like a natural.
1182
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:25.039
Started doing that. It made me mad.
1183
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.920
Like anytime I heard it, I was like, oh, fuck
1184
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.599
this guy, you know, like fuck you, yes, the fuck
1185
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.239
out of the business, you know, Like it was just yeah,
1186
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.400
it was just like at the time, like I think
1187
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.639
I was just I was super jaded.
1188
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:39.760
I was young.
1189
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:43.559
I had a lot of fucking spite in me, like yeah,
1190
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.719
and I was ready to see the fucking next generation
1191
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.320
of wrestling. I had already seen the ship they were
1192
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:49.880
doing at w W you know, I was like, fuck,
1193
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:54.039
I'm sick of this, Like I was, yeah, right, So
1194
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:57.760
definitely the right call. From what I understand. Luca Underground
1195
01:03:57.800 --> 01:03:59.880
changes quite a bit in season two and season three
1196
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.559
percent I never got a season two or season.
1197
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.320
Three even season one, to be honest with.
1198
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.159
You, Yeah, maybe, you know, I've only seen so many
1199
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:09.920
episodes of this, so I would be interested maybe one
1200
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.920
day as we make our way through Lucha Underground to
1201
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:13.679
see more of this, because I know a lot of
1202
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:17.599
people hold this in high regard and like, at some level,
1203
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.280
I am kind of said that I never gave it
1204
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.599
the lighted day back then because I think I probably
1205
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.800
would have had a lot of like good memories of it.
1206
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:27.719
Well, we watch matches on the fucking Patreon, right, and
1207
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.360
there's no context, and then you watch a full show,
1208
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:30.880
it's like, Okay, this is way different.
1209
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.639
Right, yeah, right, Wrestling in a vacuum is way different
1210
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:34.920
than wrestling in the greater picture.
1211
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.480
Right, last thing here before we get into this episode
1212
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:41.039
from The Observer November seventeenth, twenty fourteen. So I was
1213
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:42.800
trying to find the rating for this first show. I
1214
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.559
didn't see that he said anything about it, but he
1215
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.039
does say lu Underground on eleven to five to twenty
1216
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:51.000
nine thousand viewers, up from about twenty thousand the week before.
1217
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.320
So I'm guessing you know, they had like around twenty
1218
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.360
thousand for the first show, which, you know, I don't
1219
01:04:58.360 --> 01:04:59.880
know what the l Ray network was doing at the
1220
01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:00.519
time time, but.
1221
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:02.800
I don't think it was a lot. I think that
1222
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:03.079
was not.
1223
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.079
Yeah, I think it was considered it was either the
1224
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.760
first or second show for the network that week. So
1225
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.000
you know, that's obviously was doing well enough that the
1226
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:12.360
last four seasons.
1227
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.880
Yeah, the Lray network was definitely not pulling in a
1228
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.679
huge numbers. It wasn't in a lot of homes. I
1229
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:17.719
didn't get it at the time.
1230
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:19.920
No, I how the fuck did I?
1231
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.679
Dude, you have to remember too, at the time, wow, wow, uh,
1232
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.920
like cable networks, people were still people still had TV.
1233
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:29.639
Like we were just.
1234
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.519
Coming out the side of streaming. I mean, we're still
1235
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.480
trying to figure out I pay per views in twenty fourteen.
1236
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:35.880
Oh my god. Yeah, Like it's not it's not there yet.
1237
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.840
Like WW network just starts twenty four I have.
1238
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.639
I was living in an apartment with my buddy and
1239
01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:43.880
a girl I knew from high school.
1240
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:48.599
At the time and U okay, direct TV, maybe Time Warlable.
1241
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:53.320
We had Time Warner Cable. Oh shit, oh my god,
1242
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.159
we had Time Warner Cable. And I didn't get the
1243
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.000
LRA network, so like I would just have to you know,
1244
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.639
I knew how to get online, but like we didn't
1245
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:01.480
have that channel.
1246
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.840
Sure, which is nuts. We had all the channels, we
1247
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:07.440
just didn't have that channel. Well you should have called
1248
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:10.599
and said, I want the LRY network. I'm complaining because
1249
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.360
Java was on it.
1250
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:14.880
I want the RA network and I want Javo off
1251
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:15.320
the show.
1252
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:21.800
We'll get on that. I was definitely I've definitely had
1253
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:24.679
the LRA network because whatever my dad super legally had
1254
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:25.480
at the time, had.
1255
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:33.639
It, ah, right, right, whatever variation of whatever service the time,
1256
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:37.960
was definitely getting the LRA network and somehow also channels
1257
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:39.039
in Canada and England.
1258
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.000
He had that fire stick before the fire stick, Well.
1259
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:45.599
That is it for the observers, Just so you know,
1260
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:47.800
I don't you know, I don't know how much lu I.
1261
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.760
Hopefully we'll do some leuch underground in the future, but
1262
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.199
I figured, you know, this is the yeah, yeah, and
1263
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.119
not many debut episodes we have left in the vault
1264
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.840
here so figured get of a little refresherrow leading up
1265
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.239
to it. But now let's talk about Luca Underground Season one,
1266
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:09.679
episode one tape September sixth, twenty fourteenth, aired October twenty ninth,
1267
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:15.239
twenty fourteenth.
1268
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:21.000
All right, let's get into Lucia Underground Season one, episode one,
1269
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.440
The start of a new world. Here in professional wrestling,
1270
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.360
we start with the cold open. A dude is fighting
1271
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.360
two other dudes and the numbers game is just too much.
1272
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:35.199
I mean, this is already classic wrestling.
1273
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.599
Dudes are kicking ass here. There's a dude in a
1274
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.679
hoodie and he's fighting some dudes. There's a Superman punch
1275
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:46.159
thrown until Hoodie Man they get the numbers on them
1276
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.599
and they start stomping his ass out. I mean, Hoodie
1277
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:54.559
Man as fucked until Mask Man shows up and Mask
1278
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:56.800
Man is here to fucking help Hoodi Man out and
1279
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.519
he's kicking some ass and does it tilt the world
1280
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.880
head scissors and a shoot arm drag and then shoot
1281
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.840
Wade Barretts.
1282
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:04.519
Finish airplanes spin into wasteland.
1283
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:10.159
Yeah, I mean, this is uh, you know, they're they're
1284
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.440
they're starting off by by showing us, hey, this is
1285
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:15.559
the world that we live in or you know this,
1286
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:17.800
Luca is real here.
1287
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.199
The Luca door then puts his hand out to the
1288
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:24.600
guy on the ground and he says, come with me.
1289
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:29.119
Oh shit, his mouth didn't move. That was fucking awesome.
1290
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.680
He said it through his brain. That's how we do
1291
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.399
it here. It's one of the Aztec tribes. Brain tribe.
1292
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:37.159
Yeah, so the Aztec warriors are a big deal in
1293
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.239
this show. It's pretty much the basis for Lucha Libra
1294
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.399
in Luca Underground, which is pretty much where they kind
1295
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:46.600
of go with every character.
1296
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.600
Yeah, everyone kind of comes from an ancient ancestor of
1297
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:56.279
an Aztec empire, and there's seven tribes. That's the idea here,
1298
01:08:57.159 --> 01:08:59.920
seven tribes of their ancestors and the warriors that built
1299
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.319
that Aztec empire and the legacy that left behind. And
1300
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:05.119
they asked the guy in the the guy in the
1301
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.520
masks asked the guy in the hoodie, what do you
1302
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:13.880
know about Lucia Lebray young Blood checks them immediately, uh,
1303
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.279
And he says, for one hundred years, Luca has honored
1304
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.399
the ancient traditions of combat, and now it has our
1305
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.920
turned to rise. Which I wonder if that was like
1306
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.960
a line from the initial name Luca uprising.
1307
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.640
They just kept it in oh maybe yeah, which is yeah.
1308
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.520
Yeah yeah. Then we see Dario Quato's introduction. He is
1309
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:36.239
the boss in charge here el hefe. So I watched
1310
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:38.439
this when it aired, but I didn't realize that they
1311
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:40.439
did a whole thing here with Triple A, like Dario
1312
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:43.760
was at a Triple A show. I guess unless this
1313
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.399
was just taped for this and this that didn't have crowd,
1314
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.039
but they made it seem like it did. Where Dario
1315
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:51.560
Cuato says he's opening the doors to his temple to
1316
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:54.079
all of the Triple A Luca doors and he showed
1317
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:56.560
up and he wanted them to compete in America and
1318
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.960
he tells presumably the guy in charge of dude, Okay,
1319
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.920
they're fucking not thrilled. It didn't seem like and they
1320
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:08.279
he tells presumably the owner of Triple A to sign
1321
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:10.439
this contract and then walk away with all this money.
1322
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:12.760
And there's a bunch of money and the dude just
1323
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.000
signs it, and I'm like, oh fuck, does this dude
1324
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:18.840
just comes in and says, give me all your dudes,
1325
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.800
and he says yes. Uh. Then we get a shot
1326
01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.439
of the temple for the first time we see the
1327
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:26.239
inside of it. And then uh, Prince Puma comes out
1328
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.319
of a cave much like Jesus. I'm not sure if
1329
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.000
that's what they were trying to imply there.
1330
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.159
And Blue Damon Jr. Was making the walk.
1331
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.359
Oh yes, and the mask guy asked hoodie guy if
1332
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.399
he'll join them, and they shake hands.
1333
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:45.000
So we get the Luca Underground quick intro. Then we
1334
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.039
start the show off. We have a crowd shot. I'm sorry,
1335
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:50.199
not a crowd shot. It's more of a city shot here,
1336
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.039
which is kind of how every show. What was the
1337
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:57.439
show that, uh that was super popular when we were
1338
01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:58.840
growing up, the O Seed.
1339
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.359
Do you remember the O C I do remember the OC.
1340
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:07.640
The OC loved doing the overhead city shot into wherever
1341
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.319
the guys and girls were talking.
1342
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:15.800
They loved what was the song California be.
1343
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.000
Just like Bud Come on.
1344
01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:23.319
It's not that fu song?
1345
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:23.800
Right?
1346
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:24.319
Okay?
1347
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.199
Well, it starts off with the city shot reminiscent of
1348
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:32.199
all of our yes, all of our favorite shows growing
1349
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:37.800
all of us in Jersey Shore, right. I gotta show
1350
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.479
the Farris Wheel and everything, right, So it shows all
1351
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.039
that stuff. It even gives us the classic long exposure
1352
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:46.520
shot of the cars going down the street with the lights.
1353
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.439
I love that the lights and.
1354
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:53.319
It gives us all the executive producers because they do
1355
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:55.600
not shy away from telling you this is a produced
1356
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:56.760
wrestling TV shot.
1357
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.880
Right which is you know, is I'm okay with that
1358
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.920
when it's presented that way. I don't like when it's
1359
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.640
a mixture. I don't like T and A did that
1360
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:08.439
for a bit where they were kind of mixing, like
1361
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:12.079
they actually became faux Lucha Underground when luc Underground died,
1362
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:14.000
but they were doing like a mixture of like this
1363
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:15.119
is wrestling.
1364
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.199
And then you're right, they did.
1365
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.720
Yeah, and like Penta was there and Phoenix was there
1366
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.960
and like did a lot of that. Ran the kid
1367
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:34.039
over Eddie Kingston king and I think, I think, I
1368
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.760
want to say, I mean, you could easily say Rosemary
1369
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:43.720
killed somebody that like probably Lucasaurs died in both companies.
1370
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.319
I think, wow, how about that? Yeah, they killed him
1371
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:47.600
a lot.
1372
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.680
Regardless, Uh, we we get the executive producer stuff here
1373
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.479
to uh to start the show, and then of course
1374
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:57.840
the shot eventually pans around the city until it gets
1375
01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:01.880
to the Luca Underground sign, which is above the Temple
1376
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:07.119
Temple which is I believe a warehouse in La So
1377
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:13.359
it's like correct, it's Quato's temple was the way he does.
1378
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:15.319
I think it's supposed to be like a tongue in
1379
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:18.479
cheek thing. But this is a very legendary sign. I mean,
1380
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.399
this is I mean, whenever I see someone talk about
1381
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.439
Luca Underground, it's usually a picture accompanied by this fucking sign.
1382
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.960
Yeah, they had a big banner above the temple I thought,
1383
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.760
I mean, cool as fuck. I mean, like, like I
1384
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.319
mentioned the Observer, supposedly this was not very fun to
1385
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:37.479
be inside of, but it did have the gritty underground
1386
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.640
feel for a show called Luke Underground, like this is
1387
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:42.119
probably exactly where they should be.
1388
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.840
Yeah, we pan into the building. I mean, the crowd
1389
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.880
is standing up, they're cheering, there's a band playing. Matt
1390
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.239
Striker and Vampiro are here. They're the commentators for Luca Underground,
1391
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:55.159
which sounds insane, I mean when you say it now
1392
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.079
in twenty twenty six, Matt Striker and Vampiro are the commentators.
1393
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:03.840
And Matt Striker was obviously released by WWE I believe,
1394
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.199
I think that's what happened. And then, like you know,
1395
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.000
he was always known as a guy that he loved
1396
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.800
wrestling and like he was passionate about it, and I
1397
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:14.119
don't know, at some point it I ended up not
1398
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.439
liking it. But I remember the early season the Lutonic Ground.
1399
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:18.199
I was like, Okay, this guy like gives a fuck
1400
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.359
about this, and like the way he kind of gives
1401
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:22.199
inside here. There's something he says later in the main event.
1402
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:24.159
I was like, Okay, that's cool, Like I kind of
1403
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.119
like what he's doing in Vampiro, Like there's still obviously,
1404
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.239
like this is show one, they're still trying to like
1405
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.319
get their footing with each other. There's a lot of
1406
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:35.039
edits on the show in general. But I was like, okay,
1407
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.960
like I could see this fucking working out.
1408
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.920
They got to figure out the mic levels, dude.
1409
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.399
I mean, Vampiro's eating his mic. Matt Striker, you know,
1410
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.760
Matt Striker worked awe, so I think he fucking got
1411
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.359
it and his is fine, but like Vampiro is eating
1412
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:52.960
his mic. Then they have a camera on them on
1413
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.960
the table that's like blown out shit, Like I don't
1414
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:56.960
even know why they used it.
1415
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.079
I like the camera reminds me of the UFC camera
1416
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:04.520
when it shows Rogan and DC and stuff. Oh, it's
1417
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:07.079
not supposed to be as high quality as the rest.
1418
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:09.600
It's supposed to be like an inside shot, like check
1419
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:10.279
this out.
1420
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.920
As bright as fucked it is. It is.
1421
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.399
Yeah, the levels are nuts, but yeah, Vampiro, I mean
1422
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:19.520
pretty much throughout the whole show is pretty much peaking
1423
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.000
as Mike to the point in the name that like
1424
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:25.720
it peaks so loud it cuts them off, dude.
1425
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.600
I mean, there's definitely some stuff they retape with them
1426
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.079
because this lines are getting garbled.
1427
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:33.680
Yeah, that sucks. And I know, like that's like one
1428
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:37.800
of those deals where like after you're finished because you
1429
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:38.800
just can't save.
1430
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:40.840
That, you just can't say and.
1431
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.479
You don't know, right, and so you're like, oh, man,
1432
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.239
I did not know that the levels were this fucked.
1433
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:48.359
Maybe it was a deal. Maybe it's a deal where
1434
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:49.920
they wanted to be. It's supposed to be like an
1435
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.560
underground deal and maybe like it's supposed to be gritty
1436
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.319
and like we don't care about audio levels here, We're
1437
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.520
just here to bring the excitement to you. That was
1438
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:03.880
kind of deals or you know, the deal was fuck,
1439
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:05.239
the levels were not set.
1440
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:09.720
We're forgetting that, I I mean, and to defend them,
1441
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:13.640
which you know, they obviously had a much much, much, much,
1442
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.199
much much much larger budget than we ever even got
1443
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.479
to blink at. But doing if you know, any kind
1444
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:25.640
of audio stuff at all at a live event is
1445
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.720
fucking hard. It's like, you'll, it's so hard. Yeah, it's
1446
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.720
I mean, James spent years trying to figure it out,
1447
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:38.079
and you know we still weren't always exactly.
1448
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:40.760
Every show, I was learning something new to like improve
1449
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:41.760
the audio.
1450
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.000
And even then, yeah, like so like, you know, for
1451
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.640
the commentary thing, it's like, yeah, well, you know, they
1452
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.560
should have tested it, testing it before the show and
1453
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.319
test like what's happening when you have a crowd and
1454
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.359
a ring and all this shit going on, and the
1455
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:57.159
levels of the fucking guys on the mic before and
1456
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:02.680
during the show are night and a completely different yep yep.
1457
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:06.199
So like I you know again, but they do have
1458
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:08.560
a much bigger budget than we ever did, Like you know,
1459
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.359
they sure gets the level it does. It probably doesn't
1460
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.000
last more than fucking a show or two. Really, Yeah,
1461
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.399
when they show Matt Striker and Vampio commentary, Vampio does
1462
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:23.880
the all the way down, all the way down.
1463
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.920
So we start with the Dario Quota town Hall Uh,
1464
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.279
he comes into the ring here, and uh, Vampiro explains
1465
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:35.600
to us that he's not Mexican, He's Spanish, so people
1466
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.600
don't like him. That's why they.
1467
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:41.840
I mean, this all was like to me. So Dario
1468
01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.159
comes in the ring like you said, and Matt Schreker says, Vampire,
1469
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:45.640
what do you know about him? Because I don't really
1470
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.840
know nothing about this guy? Okay, you guys like all right,
1471
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:51.239
like I you know, I'm suspending, disbelieve you guys fucking
1472
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:55.880
work here. Tell me you don't know this guy at all?
1473
01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:58.720
How's that? Why do you work here? Then? And yeah,
1474
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:00.560
like you said, Vampio explains why I don't like him,
1475
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:04.840
and Dario Aquato says, my name is Dario Aquato, Elliah.
1476
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.880
I'm the owner of promoter of luch Underground. He's opened
1477
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.239
his doors to the best fighters from all over the world,
1478
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:12.279
and he's given them an opportunity to kick ass or
1479
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:14.880
get their ass kick. I said, this is fucking awesome,
1480
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:17.319
all right, cool. This is not a stadium where the
1481
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:19.399
children can share for the heroes. This is at temple
1482
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:23.239
where we honor ancient traditions like courage and honor and
1483
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:28.880
fuck John Sata like you know they want it so
1484
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.439
bad to be just a full on anti WWE show here.
1485
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.720
Yes guaranteed commentary really hamfested.
1486
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:40.479
Later too, he says that his personal favorite tradition is violence,
1487
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.359
which becomes a major theme and Dario it's so funny
1488
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:48.439
because I want I'm pretty sure I watch until season three.
1489
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:52.880
I think spoilers, major spoilers here, cover your ears if
1490
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:54.960
you don't want to know. But I think I stopped
1491
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.520
watching when they killed they shot and killed Cuato. I
1492
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:00.359
don't know if you even know this, James the shoot
1493
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:04.880
and kill Darioquato. Uh and then his dad shows up
1494
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.520
to run the temple, which is just Dario in like
1495
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:09.439
a crazy fucking week.
1496
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.520
Yeah hmmm.
1497
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.760
So like at that point I was, and I think
1498
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.760
they changed. They go to a different temple because I
1499
01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:20.199
think they got kicked out of the last place. And
1500
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.279
I'm like, I don't really love this as much. I
1501
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:25.560
you know, three seasons, I gave it a lot, so
1502
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.840
like I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna tape. Yeah, but you know,
1503
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:33.159
Dario is a character I grow to love. I love Darioquato.
1504
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:36.800
He still does shit, right, He's in a fucking MLW.
1505
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:40.399
Yeah that's right. He's in MLW. I'm not too sure
1506
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:44.359
what he's doing there, but uh, I think it's something. Yeah,
1507
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.039
I think it's something similar to walking around with a
1508
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:47.199
briefcase full of money.
1509
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:52.640
Though probably demanding violence, I imagine, because that's when he does
1510
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.039
this whole fucking story. He uh. He also says, by
1511
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.239
the way, speaking of the briefcase, that the luchador who
1512
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.680
impresses him the most will get a signing, and he
1513
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:05.039
opens up the briefcase one hundred thousand dollars. So here's
1514
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.479
your chance to get rich or die trying.
1515
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:13.800
I see what he did there. Yeah, that's fifty.
1516
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.479
Who's gonna be here tonight? He's performing many.
1517
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.239
Man, Wow, that would have been fucking sick.
1518
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:23.920
What a good gimmick though, like fucking already set in
1519
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.239
some steaks like they don't have titles yet, but listen,
1520
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:29.640
you show up, you show out. You got one hundred
1521
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:31.800
thousand dollars. You tell me Super Dragon didn't one hundred
1522
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:32.680
thousand dollars.
1523
01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:39.960
Yeah, I mean, Ricky Reyez really needed that money. He
1524
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:41.319
will be here tonight.
1525
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.560
Well, he says. The first match represents the foundation of
1526
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.279
Lucca Libra because the men competing in it have Luca
1527
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:48.159
in their blood. One of them is good and one
1528
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:51.520
of them sucks. Shit. Welcome to lich Underground.
1529
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:56.199
Matt Schriker on commentary here says, you won't have six
1530
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.960
year olds running around in bright T shirts. This is Luca.
1531
01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.960
Under Who is that about? Oh just the kids that
1532
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:03.600
like John.
1533
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.000
C Yeah, so it was, yeah, the John Cena deal
1534
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:08.800
in h twenty fourteen. At the time, people were just
1535
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:10.119
begging for something different.
1536
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:14.159
Sure, sure, and uh, I mean John Cena showing up
1537
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.319
pure to get one hundred thousand dollars would have fucking
1538
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:17.239
been awesome. Though.
1539
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:19.279
Didn't John Cena wear a mask one time?
1540
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:22.600
He was wan Sena because he got fired.
1541
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:24.000
Oh with the purple mask?
1542
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:25.720
Yes, that's right.
1543
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:27.720
He should have come here and beat the fuck out
1544
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:28.239
of Matt.
1545
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:33.600
Striker, put him in the fucking SDF on the announced table,
1546
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:36.119
which is very tiny, so it would have looked ridiculous.
1547
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:37.960
But yeah, he should have did that. And then he
1548
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:43.600
should have piled driven Tavo off the apron. And then.
1549
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.560
He goes and he beats mass Striker up and he
1550
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.279
takes Chava by the leg and drags him out of
1551
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:53.920
the temple. All right, so I'm gonna take this guy
1552
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:55.199
to you guys, have a good time.
1553
01:21:56.239 --> 01:22:01.600
Thank you. Cina can a back to backdown. I got
1554
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:02.680
something for his asks.
1555
01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.680
So the first match of the evening here, first match
1556
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:11.560
of the promotion is Blue DeMont Junior versus Chavo Guerrero Junior.
1557
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.079
Yeah, Blue Demon Junior cool as fuck. I mean they
1558
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.800
run down his history and his dad's history and all
1559
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:20.920
that stuff, and uh, you know, Javo gets the same
1560
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.239
thing here, just talking about the Guerrero family and uh
1561
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.920
fucking you know, first match, and I can't say, like
1562
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.640
it's tough. This probably isn't a the wrong idea, right, Like,
1563
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.960
start with two luchadors, like one's a fucking famous luchador
1564
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:38.640
and one's a guy that people would know that if
1565
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:44.079
they watched. We like, this probably isn't wrong, But man,
1566
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.399
not the match you probably should start with. They should
1567
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:48.600
have moved some shit around to her.
1568
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.800
Yeah, I think Luca Underground was going for I mean,
1569
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.920
as we mentioned the observer segment, they were looking for
1570
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.600
that PWG style at the time, you know, fast action,
1571
01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:03.319
big bombs. I guess I agree with you. I totally
1572
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:04.600
understand where they were going with this.
1573
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:04.920
Right.
1574
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:08.239
So, Blue Damon is a legend in Lucha Libre right
1575
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.479
and Chavo. I mean, you know, for all it's worth too.
1576
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.960
I mean he is, he's been around a very long time,
1577
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.079
and like a lot of the American audience knows him too,
1578
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:19.720
So I can understand the idea they're going for here
1579
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.720
where Blue Damon beats them. You know, people understand like, okay,
1580
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.319
so we can explain to the audience who this guy is.
1581
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.000
He can beat a guy that they know a lot about,
1582
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:31.560
and it's a match we can post about and people
1583
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:35.680
are like, oh, okay, I chop I know Chava right right,
1584
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.920
But damn would have been coolest shit too if you
1585
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:44.239
just started this show off with like just an absurd
1586
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:45.960
Luca's showcase or something.
1587
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:48.359
Yeah, like oh this is like you know, you know
1588
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.520
the history of Luca. There's one hundred years of history.
1589
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.159
Well this is what Luca is now. Yeah.
1590
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:55.319
So, I mean it was probably a decision. It was
1591
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.920
probably a game day decision on how they wanted to
1592
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.399
kick this fucking open it match off. But yeah, just
1593
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:04.399
a standard match here between Demon and Chava.
1594
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:05.800
I mean Chava probably walked up and said I.
1595
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:13.800
Yeah, probably so. Chava Guerrera Junior makes his entrance between
1596
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:17.439
the bleachers, while Blue Damont comes through the top down
1597
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.880
the staircase. I liked that they came from different locations.
1598
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.119
I don't know if that was always like a face
1599
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.600
heel thing, but I think it was kind of maybe
1600
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:28.039
implied at times here.
1601
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.760
Okay, so the face comes through the crowd because he yeah,
1602
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.119
you know, the people that the guy that people would
1603
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.600
want to see, and the heel comes through this area
1604
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.039
that's kind of separated from the crowd. I can understand that.
1605
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.079
I don't think that's always the case, but I think
1606
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:44.279
that's like a often that way.
1607
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.880
I mean, just a year prior, Chava won that fucking
1608
01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:53.960
fired briefcase at TIA, and like I know we've talked
1609
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.840
about on this show for people who don't know, Chava
1610
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.600
won the fired briefcase and the feasts are fired Matt TNA,
1611
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.479
which is a match that TNA would do with a
1612
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.960
bunch of briefcases, and they'd all have title matches in
1613
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.680
the briefcases, and whatever briefcase you got, you would find
1614
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.079
out what title you get to fight for. Uh, and
1615
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:11.640
then one of them had a fired.
1616
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.119
Again Nick Nay were all good except.
1617
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.840
One except for one, and you would get released from TNA.
1618
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:23.800
It's a gimmick, except for this time where Chava Grera
1619
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.159
won the fired briefcase and then TNA tried to use
1620
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:31.119
that as a reason to actually release them from his
1621
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:32.319
contract let.
1622
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:33.239
Him go because.
1623
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:38.880
Like Chava, like Chava, Legit had to get his lawyer involved,
1624
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.000
like because they were Legit trying to do that, and
1625
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:43.880
then he ended up leaving.
1626
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:51.000
Yeah, yeah, like, hey, we wrote you off like you.
1627
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:50.039
You don't got no more dates for you?
1628
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:52.720
Dude, What do you want us to do? You just
1629
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:55.079
got fired on this show? The fuck?
1630
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.760
Do you want to come back his creyman too.
1631
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:04.439
He's super Eric or we'll fill that role too if
1632
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.680
you want, We will recast you. Let us know if
1633
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:07.000
you would.
1634
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.600
Yeah. So Rick Knox is the referee for this match.
1635
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:19.399
Longtime PWG ref Rick Knox has an arm cast on.
1636
01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:21.399
Do you remember why?
1637
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:28.520
Because at Bola with Rod Yeah at Bola, Yeah, which
1638
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.760
was you mentioned it in the observers. It was just
1639
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:32.680
a few weeks.
1640
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:36.359
Back, yeah, if not a week. Yeah, Roderick fucks him
1641
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:38.960
up and he breaks his like arm or his collar
1642
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:40.840
like and I think he fucks his collarbone up too.
1643
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.119
Pretty nuts. They still they plan on a.
1644
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:44.960
Commentary like, Hey, why do we have a referee that's
1645
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:46.960
fucking got a broke arm or anything. He's just on
1646
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.359
the show, just has the cast on. Yeah, yeah, which
1647
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:53.439
is awesome. I'll take you. Yeah, knocks is sweet.
1648
01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:55.399
Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna give a gimmick to
1649
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.880
the refee, had the Bob Wharton gimmick. He just always
1650
01:26:57.880 --> 01:26:58.720
wears this cast.
1651
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.439
I don't think he does, sadly, I think he does eventually.
1652
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:10.279
That'd be all the hard knocks. Oh wow, that would
1653
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:11.199
be pretty interesting.
1654
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:13.159
Actually he uses it eventually.
1655
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:16.800
They they're using all the local so Cala refs here too,
1656
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.079
which are pretty much you know, Peter BG uses some already,
1657
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.119
Elias Rick Knox or the refs.
1658
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.239
Here, which is cool. I mean, in the grand scheme
1659
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.520
of wrestling, like the West Coast gets the short end
1660
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.079
of the stick a lot because it's just so isolated
1661
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:32.840
from everything. And uh yeah, I mean, so it was
1662
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.680
very cool to be able to like see like just
1663
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.479
a bunch of guys from the West Coast get used
1664
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:38.119
in this product.
1665
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:40.119
Kicked ass Yeah Lujah.
1666
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.680
Underground also has guys standing on the boxes filming above
1667
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:45.800
the ropes, which gave it a different look.
1668
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:49.159
I wrote that there's their double box here. Usually, you know,
1669
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.840
I'm used to WW one. They got the two boxes,
1670
01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:52.720
I like it.
1671
01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:55.039
On each side. Yeah, and they didn't mind being in
1672
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:55.399
the shot.
1673
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:55.640
Yeah.
1674
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:56.600
I was surprised by that.
1675
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.359
No, dude, there's the okay, So that was it tilted
1676
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:01.239
me for a second, just because, like I'm just so
1677
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.760
used to it. Like there was fucking roamors on hardcam side.
1678
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:08.800
I said, right, I mean they had roamers on the floor,
1679
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:10.800
they had roamers on the boxes. I mean, there's a
1680
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:11.680
lot of cameras.
1681
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:13.479
They had overhead shots shots.
1682
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.479
Yeah, dude, the overhead shot was cool led to some
1683
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.399
like pretty creative shots during this match.
1684
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:21.479
There's one in the main that's fucking pretty awesome during
1685
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.119
like a falsey of the overhead shot. Yeah, I mean
1686
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:25.800
they're they're trying a lot of shit here, dude, Like
1687
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.479
that's why that's what especially, you know, like I said,
1688
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.319
I I would just hooked just because it was something new.
1689
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.279
But you know, they were trying to do a lot
1690
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:34.439
of shit that you weren't seeing on other shows WWE
1691
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:35.880
or DNA or r o H.
1692
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:38.840
They cut the camera a ton in this show.
1693
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.880
Also, there is a lot of editing on.
1694
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:46.239
I mean even when it's not being edited, like even
1695
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.640
when they're not putting the match shorter or whatever the
1696
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.399
case they were trying to do, there's just cutting to anything,
1697
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:53.640
oh everything.
1698
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:54.920
Yeah, we're just.
1699
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.960
We're just shifting angles for no reason. Most of the time.
1700
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.439
It felt it definitely was on purpose, because that that
1701
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:02.239
doesn't go away.
1702
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:04.600
It was just how wrestling was at the time. WB
1703
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.359
was the same way, like TNA was the same way.
1704
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:11.560
Like they were just cutting angles a ton, you know,
1705
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:16.039
and it was just you know, one or two eighty
1706
01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:19.079
ninety times man, Like, yeah.
1707
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:21.840
I think they thought it made it feel faster.
1708
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:24.800
Yeah, I can I can see that. I can see
1709
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:26.119
the thought process behind that.
1710
01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:27.359
Right, it's right.
1711
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:31.800
But like, yeah, I mean ten years later, chilli out. Sure, yeah,
1712
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.520
you know, with hindsight, chill out.
1713
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:35.319
Uh.
1714
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.840
So we start off here with Chavo and Blue Damon. Uh,
1715
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:40.880
we kind of just have a fifty to fifty match here.
1716
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:43.359
No one really gets the upper hand on each other
1717
01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:46.840
throughout this one. It's a very evenly, evenly fought match
1718
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:50.279
till we get to the finish here. Vampiro says that
1719
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:55.840
Chavo is like the redheaded step child. What does that mean.
1720
01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:58.760
I didn't understand this at first. There says he's like
1721
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:01.239
the redheaded stepchild when he walks into a locker room
1722
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.319
with that name. He's got heat, and you know, people
1723
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:11.119
really only liked Eddie. Wait, I wasn't.
1724
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:13.159
I wasn't sure if Chava was supposed to be a
1725
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:15.960
heel until Vampiro just started shipping on him on commentary.
1726
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:19.920
I was like, yeah, dude, people do not funk with
1727
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.760
the Guerreros. Oh ship's nott for Eddie.
1728
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:24.319
Awesome and everyone liked him.
1729
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:29.119
Dude, there's another fucking funny commentary thing. Matt Striker keeps
1730
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.479
calling him, uh, Damon, which you know, is how it said,
1731
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.119
and it's it's it sounded like he was trying to
1732
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.399
say it like to Vampiro to like be like, oh yeah,
1733
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:39.079
hey look this is like how we say it, right,
1734
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:42.560
And he says Damon, and Vampiro says, yeah, man, demon
1735
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:43.880
is pretty kick ass.
1736
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:45.880
Yeah that's Demon.
1737
01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:49.439
You might know miss Demon.
1738
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.800
So Travo hits a house show here. Uh Chavo then
1739
01:30:55.640 --> 01:31:01.640
gets crotched by Damon. Matt Striker, Yeah, this is funny
1740
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:05.319
as ship. So Chavo gets crotched and then Matt Striker
1741
01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:12.720
randomly just says, there's Rick Knox looking like Mills Lane.
1742
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.159
Chavo like his ass over tea kettle, almost falling on
1743
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:18.760
the top of his head and talking about sure you're
1744
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:20.239
talking about him being bald.
1745
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:26.520
There's Rick Knox looking like Mill's Lane. Oh there wasn't
1746
01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:27.960
like a follow up, all right.
1747
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:32.720
Nor you know he have a little levity here underground.
1748
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:37.479
We're not going to mention the cast. We're just gonna
1749
01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:40.520
say it looks like Mills Lane, right, just.
1750
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:44.760
A bald white guy. I'll come on down.
1751
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:51.000
So Damon misses a as demon in me. He misses
1752
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:58.279
a flipping sent on and Chavo gets it too, and brother, dude, Okay,
1753
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:00.800
Damon does the flip off the top of this ship.
1754
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.800
Was funny as ship. He misses the flipping sent on,
1755
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:07.720
Chavo gets the two Chavo uh like, he gets up
1756
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:11.119
off of him and mats Shriker on commentary says, is
1757
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:17.479
Travo gonna be one hundred thousand dollars? Richard, No, I
1758
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.880
thought this was about having a good match and being impressive.
1759
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.720
I is it about being impressive or is it about?
1760
01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.439
At no point is Chava gonna be winning that one?
1761
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:37.119
Hundred thousand dollars recrdialists whatever whatever, whatever, like, the deal
1762
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:45.039
is here. Chava is not winning that money. So no
1763
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:50.760
he's not because after this match, later on in the evening,
1764
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.319
Daria washt off till him and says, we'll get there,
1765
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.840
We'll get there, We get there.
1766
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:57.840
Yeah.
1767
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:01.039
Uh. Chavo goes for frankenstein Er all the top rope here,
1768
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:03.800
but Damon holds on and then power bombs them off
1769
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:04.680
the second for it too.
1770
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:05.920
That was sick.
1771
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.640
Yeah, that was cool. Daimon then puts on the scorpion
1772
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:11.800
deathlock and Chavo taps out.
1773
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:14.439
They said that was his dad's move. I didn't know
1774
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:15.920
he was a son of.
1775
01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:18.199
That's cool.
1776
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:22.600
Yeah, fucking kick ass the Blue Demons. Fucking dad is
1777
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:23.119
a stinger.
1778
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.880
Yeah, loves fucking Jim Carrey and shit, that's cool me too, man.
1779
01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:34.319
Yeah. Travo taps out, and uh, that's that's the history books.
1780
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.079
The first match in Lucia Underground History, uh televised at least,
1781
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:41.079
was Blue Damon beating Chavo Guerrero so vampire.
1782
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:44.239
At the end of this match, also, it sounded like
1783
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.239
you know when you lose in a video game and
1784
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:50.000
you get the game over screen and it fades, and
1785
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:53.239
then the screen pops up with rematch or exit match
1786
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:55.960
and the game drops like a one liner right there.
1787
01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.560
I swear to god, that's what this felt like. Chavo out.
1788
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:04.319
There's like super canned audio vampire that comes over and says,
1789
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:07.399
damn Chato tupped out. We're family. Ain't gonna be feeling
1790
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:07.800
that at.
1791
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:11.560
All, dude. Oh my god, it's such like a death jam.
1792
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:13.239
Fucking dude.
1793
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.000
I was waiting for like the rematch or exit match
1794
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:18.159
or back the menu button to pop up or something
1795
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:19.119
like it was.
1796
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:27.439
Game over, you lost. That happens this whole fucking show, dude.
1797
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:33.239
So we get a pre tape after the opening match
1798
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:34.800
here Dario is here with Conan.
1799
01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:39.039
Yeah Dario, uh, says Conan. So glad you're here. They're
1800
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:43.439
going to talk about us than the Observer now, huh
1801
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:44.199
Hey Conan.
1802
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.159
First things first, No, I haven't listened to pod yet,
1803
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.760
but I am happy that you're here working for me.
1804
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.159
Yeah, and like anything that bad happens back here. I
1805
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.039
mean you can report whatever you want, buddy, Like that's
1806
01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:57.039
totally cool to me.
1807
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:01.039
Everything here's will work, dude, Yeah, do whatever you want.
1808
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:04.000
Get Wizard's bizarre. So yeah, Conan says, listen, I don't
1809
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.560
know about working for you, but I'm interested in that
1810
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:10.279
money you're throwing around. But saying about me, you know,
1811
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.000
you're looking for one of the best fighters in the world.
1812
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:14.119
Look out that window. At first, I thought he was
1813
01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:16.079
being literal, like I thought he was saying, there's dudes
1814
01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:22.199
on the street that are better than the guys. Just dude,
1815
01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.119
you can pick from Ricky Reis is out there, a
1816
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.520
little chol other tod You better pick these dud dudes.
1817
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:28.520
They're coming here anyways.
1818
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.960
But he meant from like look outside like because the
1819
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.680
guy who's talking about is from this area. He says,
1820
01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:36.439
you know, he's one of the best fighters in the world,
1821
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:38.960
is right from here. And Dario says, listen, there's Luca
1822
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.319
Doors that might feel differently. In fact, I just signed
1823
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.239
a deal with the biggest former free agent in the business.
1824
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:45.920
He's a man that goes by many names, but here
1825
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:50.640
he will be known as Johnny Moondo mucha Luca fucking guys.
1826
01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:53.520
Dude, I love the name Johnny Moondo.
1827
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:54.439
I do too.
1828
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:57.039
I actually, I actually like I'm not a big John
1829
01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:59.239
Morrison guy had never really been a big John Morrison guy.
1830
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.720
But I was interested to see what he's going to
1831
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.159
do here because I know he is a big deal here.
1832
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:07.680
And Johnny Mundo is I love that name. I just
1833
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:11.439
can't get enough. Dude, that's Johnny Mundo right there.
1834
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:13.439
Not only is the name great, dude, his run here
1835
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.159
is actually awesome, especially when they turn him. He was
1836
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:19.720
fucking They got him in Taya and Justin Gabriel and
1837
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.560
Jack Evans and they're all just fucking assholes.
1838
01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:25.079
Yeah, I'm interested to see, Like, I think a lot
1839
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:27.840
of his a lot of his like buzz and a
1840
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.119
lot of his good will came from this running lucha underground,
1841
01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.880
So I haven't seen it. I'm interested to see, like
1842
01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.600
my thoughts on it once we get further into this show.
1843
01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:38.960
So Dario says I signed him only to make an
1844
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.359
example out of him, which I was like, Oh, that's fuck.
1845
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:43.479
It pretty cool because you know Moonda's it's gonna be
1846
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.800
a top baby. He says he doesn't respect my temple
1847
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:47.039
and he's here for the money and the fame. And
1848
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:48.640
if your man is as good as he says he is,
1849
01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:51.800
have him make an example of Johnny Hey, and if
1850
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:54.199
he does, perhaps one hundred thousand dollars will go to
1851
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:57.199
him and you. And Conan likes that because he likes
1852
01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:00.359
himself some money. So we got our main event, Johnny
1853
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:04.920
Mundo and uh, soon to be named the other guy. Yeah,
1854
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:09.039
could be anybody Cody brings in stone Cold.
1855
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.439
Yeah, I got a guy. So we go into a
1856
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.159
pre tape here we see a Lucha door wrestling in
1857
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.600
a ring as Cony and coaches him from ringside.
1858
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:18.000
Uh.
1859
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:21.479
And we learn a little bit more here about one
1860
01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:24.560
of the faces of this show, Prince Puma, and.
1861
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.039
He's I mean, this is the guy, right, This is
1862
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.840
like their money right here is Prince Puma. They put
1863
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.640
a lot into him, and I mean, fucking not a
1864
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.680
bad guy to go with, I gotta say, because goddamn
1865
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:39.840
he like encompasses, you know, other than fucking probably Penta
1866
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:43.159
in Phoenix, Like, Prince Puma is like the face of
1867
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:43.640
this place.
1868
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.159
Twenty fourteen. Ricochet is awesome too.
1869
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:50.000
Oh my god, Yes, dude, he's yeah, like on all cylinders.
1870
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:54.760
Yeah, yeah, I mean he was unbelievable in PWG. He
1871
01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.279
got in great shape, by the way, Yeah, I mean
1872
01:37:57.319 --> 01:37:59.880
he's unbelievably ripped. Yeah, he looks great.
1873
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.359
Conan says, the true legend of Luca doesn't run through
1874
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:05.239
his veins, it runs in him, and it shows Prince Uma,
1875
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:07.720
and he says he heard his family talking about seven
1876
01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:10.560
Astac tribes and how they all had their own champion
1877
01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:13.319
and the original luchadors. When a luchador loses in battle,
1878
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.560
more than his honor was taken way before Game of Thrones,
1879
01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:19.680
he says, Astag luchadors would claim the head of their opponent,
1880
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.159
which is why the mask has become a symbol of
1881
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:24.640
life in our sport. The luchador loses his mask, he
1882
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.960
loses everything. I mean, they could have went real crazy
1883
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:31.199
with this, Like they could have been cutting dude's heads
1884
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.000
off all the time if they wanted to.
1885
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:35.720
Well, they shoot Daria Equado in the head.
1886
01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:41.399
I guess they did kill Lucasaurusts. They legit cut his
1887
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.039
head off, so I guess that's fucking fair. I do.
1888
01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:47.640
By the way, I love that they brought that up
1889
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:50.640
because I think to a lot of the American audience too.
1890
01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:53.640
I mean, even when were watching WCW. You remember when
1891
01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.760
we watched Nitro, I think it was and Larry's Ubisco
1892
01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:58.479
was like trying to have a hard time trying to
1893
01:38:58.680 --> 01:38:59.800
yang to American fans.
1894
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:00.800
The mask is so.
1895
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.960
Revered import Lujah Libre. I love that they like gave
1896
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:08.119
it a pretty simple like explanation that ties into the
1897
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:13.079
show here, so like automatically, it gives so much meaning
1898
01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:14.119
to the audience watching.
1899
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.640
Yeah, like I understand like the importance of the mask
1900
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:19.960
thing too, right, like even how long I've been watching wrestling.
1901
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.239
But the explanation of like this is like getting your
1902
01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:25.680
fucking head cut off, is like, oh, I immediately understand
1903
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:27.520
that this is like the most important thing in the world.
1904
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:31.039
Actually, yeah, it ties into the show's like deal very
1905
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.319
very quickly. It was a good idea to do that.
1906
01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:36.359
They're showing shots here Prince Puma doing some shit. I mean,
1907
01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:38.199
he kicks this dude so hard in the fucking head
1908
01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:40.479
for the slow mo shot. I hope that does paid
1909
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:41.840
decently for that.
1910
01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:44.760
So we come out of the pre tape here we
1911
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.960
have Son of Havoc and he is taking on Sexy Star.
1912
01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:55.159
That caught me off guard. So Son of Havoc is here.
1913
01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:59.039
That's m Dog twenty. They got him under a deal here,
1914
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:01.079
which is all awesome that he got a spot on
1915
01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:02.479
this show. I thought that was very cool.
1916
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:06.239
He becomes a mainstay as well, like he's especially in
1917
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:12.560
the Trio's division. Here he becomes a figure wet dog. Yeah, dude,
1918
01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:16.159
we fucking m Dog. One of the first DPW world
1919
01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:19.439
title matches was pretty cool bo Jack versus m Dog
1920
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:21.119
twenty and he was cool ship but that was.
1921
01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:23.399
Dude, he was awesome. Yeah, what a what a good dude.
1922
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.880
Sexy Star makes her entrance. She comes through the crowd
1923
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:33.680
and she's got the DPW Women's World Champion maught what
1924
01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:34.279
the fuck?
1925
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:38.720
Yeah thinking of me? And they do a whole Sexy
1926
01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:40.840
Star high video here. I mean, they are getting her
1927
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:43.760
over huge here and they push her to the moon.
1928
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:47.039
Vampire says, she's like a rock star in Mexico. She's
1929
01:40:47.039 --> 01:40:49.880
won world titles wrestling in Japan. I guess on Havoc's
1930
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:51.760
a piece of fucking shit. We don't get to find
1931
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:57.239
out anything about him. He's which could be anybody, Dandy Havoc.
1932
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:01.479
Rock right, We're really listening for that guy to come in.
1933
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.319
So they show a Sexy Star video where she says
1934
01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:05.720
when she looked in the mirror, she saw a woman
1935
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.840
that was afraid, but her mask saved her life. And
1936
01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:10.880
Luca Libray called to her, and it showed her that
1937
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:12.760
women are as strong as men and tough as men,
1938
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:15.319
and sometimes can kick ass better than men. And uh,
1939
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:18.880
you know, it's a fucking inspirational story something everybody can
1940
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:22.479
get behind. I get that here, and uh, we come back,
1941
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:24.199
and some Havocs immediately taken the mic.
1942
01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:28.560
What the fuck, dude, he left raider voice on.
1943
01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.920
That's fucking the best way to describe it, raider voice.
1944
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:38.800
So son Havoc has the mic and he says, before
1945
01:41:38.840 --> 01:41:41.880
you get all sorry, I'm not wrestling a warburn. Vampiro
1946
01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:48.439
says that arrogant bastard, Havac says, want you to do
1947
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:51.239
yourself favor, get yourself counted out and live to fight
1948
01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:54.199
another day. Imagine if that's legit what they did. But
1949
01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:55.439
she just said a fuck.
1950
01:41:56.960 --> 01:41:58.399
I mean, that's the son of Abba.
1951
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:02.680
That you got anything to show for his backstory because
1952
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:03.279
he was killing.
1953
01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:07.000
Du Yeah right, I mean his dad's Havoc is a.
1954
01:42:07.079 --> 01:42:11.439
Legend motorcycles rights. Right.
1955
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.119
He was known as Harley Davidson.
1956
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:17.600
In the which we found out was a real guy.
1957
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:19.680
Son of Harley david Son. Didn't work.
1958
01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.039
Well, that was you know, like Luke Chop Rising was
1959
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:24.880
the first name son of Harley David Soon was like
1960
01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:29.199
pitched it kind of a lot hard to chant.
1961
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:32.840
Yeah, So Sexy Star looks at him like are you serious?
1962
01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:35.319
And uh, you know, I'm not going to exit the
1963
01:42:35.399 --> 01:42:37.479
ring and do this, But then she does. She steps
1964
01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:39.960
out of the ring and Havoc looks back at her
1965
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:41.399
and says, I'm not gonna sit back.
1966
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:56.479
That's serious. Wow, that is the fun? Was that? Why
1967
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.079
did that? It went on for so long?
1968
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:01.960
But Sexy Star then runs back in and tries to
1969
01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:06.760
jump Havoc, but it backfires. Havoc kind of beats her ass.
1970
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:08.520
She tries to get the one up on him and
1971
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:10.600
she's but she's resilient. He keeps shoving her off, but
1972
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:11.439
she is resilient.
1973
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:15.640
Sexy Star slabs Havoc, and this is where I'm realizing
1974
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.000
now that every slap sounds like a gunshot in this place.
1975
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:24.039
Like that is forever, by the way, every superkick, every anything,
1976
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.720
you're getting a slap on, You're getting the the fu
1977
01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:29.760
weed whacker, the kendowstick sound.
1978
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:34.439
Yeah, dude, it's super loud. Yeah, Sexy Star is stringing
1979
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:37.880
some shit together here, but Havoc just hits a back
1980
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.760
breaker and it's kind of like Nightfall in a way
1981
01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:44.199
main style backbreaker here and picks up the wind.
1982
01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:50.960
I uh, okay, I was confused. They like her losing.
1983
01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:52.720
I'm not confused about Like I get it, like that's
1984
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:56.239
gonna get fucking paid off obviously, right, but like how
1985
01:43:56.399 --> 01:44:01.720
short this was and he gets a normal pinfall on her,
1986
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.359
and Matt Shreker says, Havo wins by pulling the tights.
1987
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:07.560
All right, Well, I mean he tried.
1988
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:09.760
He tried to pull the tights. I don't know if
1989
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:11.680
you noticed, but he picked her leg up and tried
1990
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.399
to grab her gear.
1991
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:16.279
Okay, but it definitely does not it just like a
1992
01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:17.479
deep regular pin.
1993
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:17.880
Yeah.
1994
01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:21.159
Well yeah, dude, short fucking match. Didn't like that either,
1995
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:25.479
didn't really Again, I get where it goes, right, it's
1996
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:29.680
it'll pay off and it'll be fucking j went brother
1997
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.399
some fucking app because I did read. Meltzer originally said
1998
01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:36.000
that this was like a he got a report that
1999
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:37.800
it was a two out of three, or they just
2000
01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:42.399
were like filmed multiple matches. So either this was supposed
2001
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.359
to be longer and it got cut crazy or it
2002
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:46.720
kept going poorly.
2003
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.479
It'd be funny as shit if like sexy stars, like, yeah,
2004
01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:52.000
I'm not gonna lose tonight. So they're like, okay, it's
2005
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:53.960
two out of three falls and then the one fall
2006
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.439
where he beat her they just used that. Yeah, Wow,
2007
01:44:58.680 --> 01:44:59.439
that'd be nuts.
2008
01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.640
That would be fucking awesome. What a great idea.
2009
01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:06.399
Well, it shows a graphic of Johnny Mundo and Prince
2010
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:08.840
Puma's main event later on this evening.
2011
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.920
Yeah, Johnnymundo returns of the ring after three years. Why lie,
2012
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:17.960
why why? Like this show's definitely for smart fans, Like,
2013
01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:21.439
why would you just fucking pretend I don't get it? Well,
2014
01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:25.439
that's Johnny Mundo, you know, who wrestled three years ago.
2015
01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:26.479
Of course.
2016
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:35.199
As the Flea. So we go to a pre tape
2017
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:40.039
here Chavo is sweaty and uh the screen, a silver
2018
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:44.520
briefcase slides across the room and Chavo looks down and
2019
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:45.720
he says, please.
2020
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:52.039
No, would you like to see my briefcase? Java?
2021
01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:55.399
No, that didn't have it. It should have happened. That
2022
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:59.880
would have been very fun. Dario comes in and he says, uh,
2023
01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:01.359
you tapped out.
2024
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:05.399
Huh dude. He says, the Great Java Guerrera from the
2025
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:08.560
Great gro Familia. What happened? My friend. I thought you'd
2026
01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:10.199
be the first victor of my temple and prove the
2027
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.399
world that the Grow family is the greatest luchador family
2028
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.760
in history. And what do you do? You tapped out?
2029
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:19.760
What would your grandfather think? What would your uncle think? Well,
2030
01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:21.479
he says, one thing's for sure. The one hundred thousand
2031
01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:25.760
dollars will not begun to you city.
2032
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:29.680
I mean only fuck you are not getting that money.
2033
01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:30.680
I'll tell you that much.
2034
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:32.760
And since you didn't finish the job tonight, I will
2035
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:34.760
have to bring in an opponent who will. And once
2036
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:36.359
he is here, there is nothing I can do to
2037
01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:38.880
stop him. And he wipes his nose. I believe this
2038
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.159
was cocaine implications. And he says a thousand deaths might
2039
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:45.560
be coming for us, all which I don't know. I'm assuming.
2040
01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:47.960
Do you know who this is talking about? Here? The rock?
2041
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.319
Well that was the first one. You're still on, like
2042
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:55.279
the the like for Lucha Uprising script here? Right? Okay,
2043
01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.319
my bad, miss the it's uh it is uh mill
2044
01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:02.920
More tents mill More tests who you know as Judas Messius.
2045
01:47:03.720 --> 01:47:05.640
Oh wow, Abyss is half brother.
2046
01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:14.039
Yes, yes, he's with Maxine. I forget where her name
2047
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:19.680
was here Maxine from w Yes, yes was her name?
2048
01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:20.880
Oh The Kiss of Death?
2049
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.119
Yes, yes, Katrina Katrina was her name? Katrina? Right, Okay,
2050
01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.079
what she's fucking awesome on this show too. Yeah.
2051
01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:32.880
Yeah, I mean I've seen a lot of the Wertz stuff,
2052
01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.279
Like he's massive, he looks you, the mask is super
2053
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:37.479
fucking dope, dude.
2054
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.600
Him and Phoenix have like my favorite casket match ever.
2055
01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:43.520
Yeah, so I mean I'm definitely excited to see more
2056
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:44.319
from him, for sure.
2057
01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:44.760
Yeah.
2058
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:50.279
So we have the main event of the evening, Johnny
2059
01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:52.720
Mundo versus Prince Puma with Conan.
2060
01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.640
So Conan is here for the entrance and that's it.
2061
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:00.520
Yeah, he's That's that's all I got.
2062
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:04.960
I don't know if like they filmed that and then
2063
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:07.680
or what happened here, because like or he might have
2064
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:09.239
been going you know what, I actually may have read
2065
01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:11.760
that he like had surgery, like makes sense at the time,
2066
01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:12.319
So maybe he.
2067
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:13.880
Was going through a lot of shit at this time.
2068
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.560
Yeah. Sure, I feel like every other fucking month there
2069
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:19.119
was stuff about Conan's like hip surgery or this or that.
2070
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.720
You know, Well, Johnny Munda comes out, he does his
2071
01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:23.720
WWE entrance here, like with.
2072
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:27.319
The uh slow Moe thing and yeah, kicked on the
2073
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:28.319
apron and stuff.
2074
01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:31.159
Yeah, yeah, he's still locked and still got the jacket
2075
01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:34.720
and everything. The only thing separating him from WWE is
2076
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:35.800
Joey Mercury's now.
2077
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:39.079
Here the ring. Yeah, pretty much.
2078
01:48:39.760 --> 01:48:43.399
Prince Puma comes out here and Vampiro immediately says, yeah,
2079
01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:44.319
Conya is like a cancer.
2080
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:44.479
Man.
2081
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:45.079
I hate that guy.
2082
01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:47.800
I gotta tell you, dude, that is such like a
2083
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:52.800
fucking this never ends. By the way. He hates Conan
2084
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:55.880
and like always hates Conan and he calls him a
2085
01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.520
snake and this, that and the other. I mean, it's
2086
01:48:58.760 --> 01:48:59.239
it's great.
2087
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:03.000
Yeah, and this is like prime era Ricochet by the way.
2088
01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:05.640
I mean, you know, not to catch up with the
2089
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:07.520
stuff he's doing now, because the stuff he's doing now
2090
01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:10.439
is really good too. But I just remember at the
2091
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:14.800
time watching Ricochet and being like, holy fuck, like I know,
2092
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:16.880
he's got it all. I was like, Wow, this guy
2093
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:20.920
can do everything, And I guess that's really kind of
2094
01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:22.319
still the still the case now.
2095
01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:26.119
I mean, like still can do it super still, he
2096
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:28.439
can keep up with fucking everybody, man.
2097
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.560
Yeah, I guess it was easy to like when he
2098
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:34.199
went to WWE, it was easy to forget, like, you know,
2099
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:37.800
because so much time passed, like just how good this
2100
01:49:37.960 --> 01:49:41.119
guy is, I know, and like it's it's really cool
2101
01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:42.880
to see him doing his thing nowadays.
2102
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:46.119
In aw no, dude, like I said, when he came
2103
01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:50.479
back from fucking that dragon Gate tour, I mean it
2104
01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.520
was this is like the best high flyer in the
2105
01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:57.119
fucking world. It was on yeah right, yeah, he had
2106
01:49:57.119 --> 01:50:00.640
a little you remember the mohawk of course, dude, that
2107
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.119
great when he tapped in, yes, jacked and he had
2108
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:05.399
that fucking colored mohawks. Sh it was awesome. Man.
2109
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.720
He look yeah like that look.
2110
01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:09.800
And but I will say, Prince Uma, by the way,
2111
01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:11.720
this is a super marketable look here.
2112
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:16.199
Yeah he's got a story like I mean, yeah, I
2113
01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:18.800
mean this is awesome. I mean this is I mean
2114
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:20.439
a lot of people still reference this. I mean this
2115
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:23.680
is a very cho very people remember this very much,
2116
01:50:24.159 --> 01:50:29.000
which is cool. Vampiro all right, so they start the
2117
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:31.960
match off here Mundo and Puma do and they do
2118
01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.159
like a wristlock exchange, and Vampura says, you know, that
2119
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:37.680
reminds me of the Dynamite Kid. And I was like,
2120
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:39.840
holy shit, I mean that was loaded.
2121
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:42.000
That's crazy.
2122
01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:44.960
They're doing like wristlock exchanges and ship and strikers like
2123
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.079
this is inspired by World of Sport. You know, you
2124
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:49.880
can talk about that here. Use the internet.
2125
01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:54.319
Learn, do not look at where Johnny Mundes working.
2126
01:50:54.199 --> 01:51:00.399
Lately, Johnny Munda's cage match for the past three years.
2127
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:03.319
Do not keep up with Johnny Mundo, but you should
2128
01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:05.600
keep up with the World of sport. Also, by the way,
2129
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.359
I don't know if you noticed, it's very very faint.
2130
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:09.800
I don't know if they kept it in just because
2131
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:13.199
they had to or what. But when the shot comes
2132
01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.880
in and the bell rings, the last bit of the
2133
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:19.359
crowd channing all night long can be heard, which was
2134
01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.239
fucking Obviously the PBG fans there that knew was Rikoshet
2135
01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:23.319
and he was doing shit with Swan.
2136
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:25.920
Okay, I was gonna bring it up because Striker says
2137
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.840
it on commentary. Striker mentions that Ricochet can go all
2138
01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:31.560
night long, and I was like, oh man, it's the
2139
01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:36.359
fucking Ricochet rich One Inner City machine Guns from PWG
2140
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:39.199
and they were doing I mean, they were doing that
2141
01:51:39.359 --> 01:51:43.239
fucking deal on every indie show they were on. I mean,
2142
01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:47.319
rich One still does it to this day. Rich One
2143
01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:56.399
is still doing Yeah, that's nuts. Matt Striker says that
2144
01:51:57.159 --> 01:51:59.239
he asked Vampiro. He says, what do you think Puma
2145
01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:03.359
has like picked up from Conan? And Vampiro says, sadly,
2146
01:52:03.439 --> 01:52:05.159
this kid's about to be corrupted. I gotta tell you
2147
01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:07.000
Conan is evil.
2148
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:16.119
He legit says. If there's anyone that's evil, it's Conan's ship. Dude.
2149
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:19.359
I love how thick Vampiro lays it on for the
2150
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:22.840
heels on this show, Like, yeah, no one likes the
2151
01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:26.079
Guerrero family. It's sept for Eddie is nuts. You know,
2152
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:29.359
Conan is evil and he's going to corrupt this kid immediately.
2153
01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.680
He's a cancer. Yeah. I like how ernest he is,
2154
01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:34.640
and like the way he comes off on the heels
2155
01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:36.199
that only grows too.
2156
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:36.720
By the way.
2157
01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.840
I love this So Ricochet does, I mean, like if
2158
01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:43.159
Ricochet's like kind of just doing going through the motions
2159
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.039
of his ship that he would do like pretty much
2160
01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:47.960
every show, Like double fucking Head saysers drop kick, go
2161
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:52.199
for the dive, backflip into superhero pos Like Vampiro, I'm
2162
01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:55.000
guessing he hasn't seen much Ricochet, you know, up to
2163
01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:57.359
this point, so like this is the first time you
2164
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:00.239
see all his ship, which is like, I mean, when
2165
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:02.359
you see it for the first time, especially in twenty fourteen,
2166
01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:06.159
you're like, wow, this is like this is it? Like
2167
01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:10.319
this guy is right. So Vampiro sees that and like
2168
01:53:10.439 --> 01:53:12.279
he stands up. I mean he legitimately goes, man, I'm
2169
01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:12.760
standing up.
2170
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:16.680
Come on, come on. I was like, dude, Wow, I.
2171
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:20.399
Haven't seen I've never seen someone's first reaction to seeing
2172
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.479
like this feels like a time capsule, like seeing twenty
2173
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.840
fourteen Ricochet for the first time and being able to
2174
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.359
experience like his shine and all this shit he does
2175
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.600
like it's super locked in and yeah. Seeing Vampiro stand
2176
01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:34.880
up and he was like, let's fucking god.
2177
01:53:35.880 --> 01:53:39.960
The little camera that's blown out. Yeah on his mic
2178
01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:44.960
that's blown out. I'm standing on that, dude. Yeah.
2179
01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:47.960
Richet Ricochet goes to dive. He does the backflip into
2180
01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.560
the superhero post thing. If this was PWG. Mundo would
2181
01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:53.840
have came in. He would have done the Superhero post spot.
2182
01:53:54.199 --> 01:53:56.600
Then the ref would have done the Superhero post spot.
2183
01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.119
And stick their thumbs up.
2184
01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:02.279
Then whoever's doing control of this match, he would smack
2185
01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:04.600
the other guy. The guy would powder. He would give
2186
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:06.560
the middle finger to the crowd. He'd hit a big
2187
01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:08.680
dive over the robes we get into the match.
2188
01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:11.159
That's pretty much exactly how this would go.
2189
01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:13.760
Ricochet would do.
2190
01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:18.000
The dance right the people's elbow, Yeah, yeah, with the
2191
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:18.560
moon saw.
2192
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:20.920
Yeah, the People's moon saw.
2193
01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:22.960
Yeah, all stuff I wanted to see in twenty fourteen.
2194
01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:26.159
Twenty fourteen on beg, I am begging for the ref
2195
01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:29.000
to do the superhero posing fuck up, Like I am
2196
01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:34.119
begging for it. Dude, push the ladder and do the
2197
01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:37.159
toe fa on you and beg you to it. But yeah,
2198
01:54:37.279 --> 01:54:39.640
like seeing this brought back so many memories for me.
2199
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:40.319
It felt good.
2200
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:43.880
This was a very important part of my fandom as
2201
01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:49.359
a wrestling fan. Like I like, I'm not the style
2202
01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:54.960
that PWG was at the time, Like I I like
2203
01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:57.640
different types of wrestling today is the best to put it.
2204
01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:02.159
But that era was so important for me as like
2205
01:55:02.840 --> 01:55:06.159
just a fan of wrestling to go through, you know, man,
2206
01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:08.640
Like that shit brought back a lot of memories.
2207
01:55:08.720 --> 01:55:10.760
Yeah, well, you know we've talked about it right, where
2208
01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:12.479
Like I was definitely in a part where like I
2209
01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:14.640
didn't really want to watch anything old, but I also
2210
01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:17.960
like didn't want to watch much that was going on TV.
2211
01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:20.640
So like, if that shit didn't exist, I'm probably like
2212
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:23.960
if I didn't, if I don't find the indies, I'm out. Yeah.
2213
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:28.039
I was so ready for like that generation of guys
2214
01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:30.600
to like be the people that everyone was talking about.
2215
01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:34.279
Matt Striker calls the fans here the Lucca Mania acts.
2216
01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:37.479
He says, it doesn't last. Check out the Luca MANI acts.
2217
01:55:37.479 --> 01:55:45.479
In this dirty, dirty, shitty, fucking shitty, shitty, fucking horrible
2218
01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:46.159
building we're in.
2219
01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.359
They must they must believe in this. Oh right, believers.
2220
01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:51.479
That's probably a better one. Huh.
2221
01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:54.880
Bapira says, Yeah, we're like in a Freddy Krueger movie,
2222
01:55:55.079 --> 01:55:57.039
like we're here in the boiler room or something.
2223
01:55:57.640 --> 01:55:59.199
That would have been fucking sick. What the hell?
2224
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.760
Yeah? I like, you know, what can I say? I'm
2225
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:04.640
a fan of Wes Cravens at everyone Elm Street So Vampiro,
2226
01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:06.880
I like that shout out, thank you so much. I
2227
01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.279
appreciate that. They fight over to the announced table. Here
2228
01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:14.560
Mundo flips off the table and Vampiro literally peaks his
2229
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.920
mic by how excited he is. He says, this is
2230
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:18.640
like the coolest shit he's ever seen.
2231
01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:21.000
Dude, if he could curse, he would be fucking going
2232
01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:23.239
nuts right now, Like this is the craziest fucking the
2233
01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.760
governments and have you you see this shit.
2234
01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:28.359
They had to keep Vampiro away from PWG by all
2235
01:56:28.600 --> 01:56:29.840
costs because he.
2236
01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:33.560
Would like it would change his life. God, oh my god.
2237
01:56:34.399 --> 01:56:36.520
Mundo's now in control of the match. Here, He's taken
2238
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:40.359
four arm shots to prince Puma's back. Puma fires back
2239
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:42.039
with a kick here. He tries to get the crowd
2240
01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:45.520
into the match by pounding on the mat. But I mean,
2241
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:47.479
you can see like a lot of the fans already left.
2242
01:56:47.479 --> 01:56:50.239
I guess the fucking building was so hot and just
2243
01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:51.319
everything by that point.
2244
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.159
They thought a peeping for the most part.
2245
01:56:53.439 --> 01:56:55.319
Yeah, they didn't know that he was trying to get
2246
01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:57.399
them into it by pounding the bat either, So it
2247
01:56:57.520 --> 01:56:59.159
kind of took him a minute to understand what was
2248
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:01.680
going on, but they eventually got it. I'm sure there
2249
01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:03.399
was somebody there that was kind of like doing what
2250
01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:07.680
so Calval would do. Yeah, yeah, right, Puma has a
2251
01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:11.399
standing shooter for a two here. Mundo eventually catches fire
2252
01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:13.399
and runs Pum into the buckle and punches him down
2253
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:17.840
them Mundo hits a very odd looking comeback. That's the
2254
01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:19.039
only way I could put it here. It was just
2255
01:57:19.159 --> 01:57:23.960
very odd. Yeah, double clothes line, it's a normal comeback.
2256
01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.880
Don't get me wrong. Say you just kind of have
2257
01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:28.640
to look at it. It's just very odd looking. It
2258
01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.840
felt like it didn't feel like he was trying.
2259
01:57:31.640 --> 01:57:33.960
To do the moves to him.
2260
01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:36.079
It kind of took me out for a second. It
2261
01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:37.359
just kind of felt like we were going through the
2262
01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:38.880
motions of the comeback. Yeah, it was weird.
2263
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.159
It was kind of like a means to an end,
2264
01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:42.920
like we just kind of I need to get my
2265
01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:44.920
come up back here, and this is what I got.
2266
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:48.079
Like I was just onawn. Sorry, like this guy, I
2267
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:49.399
got double line leg Larry.
2268
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:53.560
But even if you're doing double line lariat, like that's cool.
2269
01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:55.399
Like de Malinko would do the leg Larry and I
2270
01:57:55.439 --> 01:57:59.119
would come back a lot. But like you catch fire,
2271
01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.640
you punch him down the buckle, you fucking fire up.
2272
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:04.960
And it was almost like Randy Orton when he throws
2273
01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:08.399
the lions for his comeback. Oh, like you know, yeah,
2274
01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.800
it's just like now we're just waiting for the power slam,
2275
01:58:11.920 --> 01:58:14.720
but he goes in the Yeah. Yeah, it was just odd,
2276
01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:17.000
just because, like with the fire that he came up
2277
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:18.800
with out of the corner, it's expected like a more
2278
01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:21.840
fiery comeback than that. Sure, I mean it's such a
2279
01:58:22.119 --> 01:58:23.199
stupid nitpick here.
2280
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:25.119
No, but I see you're saying. I mean, like you know,
2281
01:58:25.199 --> 01:58:27.159
and I will tell you he does, you know, the
2282
01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:30.720
the stuff. He becomes more of a looch underground wrestler
2283
01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:32.880
than a w B wrestler pretty soon.
2284
01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:36.199
That's cool. Mundo hits a running knee strike for two.
2285
01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:39.560
He goes for starship pain, but Puma rolls him up
2286
01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:39.960
for a two.
2287
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:43.119
That's the end of the World broughta I didn't know
2288
01:58:43.159 --> 01:58:44.920
that till the end of the match, dude. I actually,
2289
01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:47.840
the end of the World is a fucking awesome name
2290
01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:49.920
for a move. Yeah. I do like it too.
2291
01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:54.680
Mundo goes for a spinning neck breaker. I'm thinking that's
2292
01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:56.720
the Moonlight drive. I think I wrote down.
2293
01:58:56.640 --> 01:58:59.359
Moon Light dry there you go. I was waiting, Yeah, yeah,
2294
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:00.640
I wrote it down somewhere here.
2295
01:59:01.199 --> 01:59:02.640
I heard him at commentary say it.
2296
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:03.159
Yeah.
2297
01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.000
Puma stops him from hitting that though, until Mundo hits
2298
01:59:06.039 --> 01:59:08.880
a springboard kick for a two. It's basically Puma just
2299
01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:11.319
trying to hold on and stop Munda from hitting his
2300
01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.640
finishing stuff. Here, Mundo flips out of starship pain.
2301
01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:15.680
He does.
2302
01:59:15.760 --> 01:59:16.880
He has a lot of moves and a lot of
2303
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:21.000
things that could put Puma down here. You know, in
2304
01:59:21.159 --> 01:59:24.560
the in the story of of the match, Mundo's kind
2305
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:26.159
of like a vet, you know, he's kind of like
2306
01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:29.920
the top guy who comes in and everyone knows, yeah, yeah,
2307
01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:31.760
Puma is like the up and coming guy. Right, So
2308
01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:35.039
like Puma is just trying to like escape from the
2309
01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:36.680
ship that he knows Mundo's gonna do.
2310
01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:39.840
Right, He wouldn't, right, because yeah, exactly.
2311
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:42.239
Puma catches him with the springboard media Oora for a two,
2312
01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:46.640
goes for a springboard for fifty but misses. Mundo is
2313
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:48.720
able to hit the Moonlight drive for a two point nine.
2314
01:59:49.279 --> 01:59:51.920
That was a good fucking falsey. I actually even bit
2315
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:54.600
on that one because he that yeah, yeah, yeah.
2316
01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:59.520
Mundo hits a standing Spanish fly here called the C four,
2317
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:02.319
A little C four. It's a lot of moves called that.
2318
02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:05.800
Fucking there is a lot of moves called that. I'm trying,
2319
02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:11.000
I'm trying to remember who first called it the four spike, Yes,
2320
02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:15.279
C four, so I know it as the as this right,
2321
02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:18.800
the Standing Spanish Fly C four is also Sean Spears
2322
02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:25.199
value right, Spike. Uh, there's definitely another one.
2323
02:00:25.600 --> 02:00:26.960
Yeah, I'd have to think about it.
2324
02:00:27.960 --> 02:00:33.039
Let us know if you unmore, there's gotta be more.
2325
02:00:33.279 --> 02:00:35.760
I don't know who first called it the C four
2326
02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:37.920
for this, because the first time I remember seeing the
2327
02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:42.439
flipping Spanish fly was the standing one was fucking Paul
2328
02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:47.439
Burns show. Oh wow. Really he'd walked the plank I
2329
02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:49.960
think or walking the plank one of those he did
2330
02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:54.239
hirate in the game. That's also so he got it
2331
02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:55.640
in the game the standing C four.
2332
02:00:56.079 --> 02:00:56.920
Which game was he in?
2333
02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:03.279
Oh seven? Oh nice? Mm hmmm, good game to be in.
2334
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:05.720
I don't know what I expected here for the main
2335
02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:07.720
but I was. I was impressed with it nonetheless.
2336
02:01:08.319 --> 02:01:10.159
Yeah, no, man, I I dug it a lot. I mean,
2337
02:01:10.239 --> 02:01:13.520
like you said, I can, I can fucking just glowingly
2338
02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:16.800
talk about Ricochet at this time, and you know, Johnny Mundo,
2339
02:01:17.159 --> 02:01:19.640
I even I remember at the time, I was like, ah, fuck,
2340
02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:21.600
like I wish just didn't have WB guys in it,
2341
02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:24.239
but I get it. But he fucking grows on me, man,
2342
02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:28.720
Like like you said, like this run does pretty fucking
2343
02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:30.840
does wonders for him. He ends up in TNA too,
2344
02:01:31.079 --> 02:01:31.880
and what's the title?
2345
02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:34.399
Yeah, Austin Ares walks out after.
2346
02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:42.279
Holy shit because he gets into its mud. Fuck that.
2347
02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:46.920
Fuck that. So Puma is frustrated after the match. I
2348
02:01:47.279 --> 02:01:49.359
like this part too. He fucking Mundo gives them props
2349
02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:52.039
and DAPs them up and they hug, and Striker on
2350
02:01:52.079 --> 02:01:54.640
commentary says, Ah, he's you know, he's taking care of me.
2351
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:56.640
He's looking he's being a good guy. Here. Do you
2352
02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.760
think that means if Mundo gets one hundred thousand he'll
2353
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:02.399
share it with Puma? Why the fuck would he do that? Yeah?
2354
02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:05.399
I mean I don't know. Like, also, it's in cold
2355
02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:08.279
hard bills. I mean that's a situation.
2356
02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:11.520
Yeah, and walk out with him briefcase?
2357
02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:14.319
Was he just holding money walking out into La in
2358
02:02:14.399 --> 02:02:19.640
the street. So Dario comes out, Yeah, and uh Vampiro
2359
02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.239
right away. I love the way he reacted. Bro, he
2360
02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:23.640
looks so pissed right now.
2361
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:26.039
Dude, he is Matt what the hell? What the hell?
2362
02:02:26.079 --> 02:02:27.039
He's fucking really bad?
2363
02:02:28.039 --> 02:02:28.479
Casual?
2364
02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:29.880
That was that was so funny.
2365
02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:34.640
And Dario congratulates Mundo and he says he's earned the money.
2366
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:37.199
Yes, he shows him the briefcase. By the way, the
2367
02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:38.960
money is in it, so they're not like trying to
2368
02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:42.600
bake the money or anything. And Mundo goes to grab
2369
02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:45.920
the briefcase but Dario closes it, and they're super dubbed
2370
02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:48.439
vampiro commentary because he must have been flipping the fuck
2371
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.760
out and if I peaked like this ship, so they
2372
02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:53.720
had to get this line in. Yeah, this is the
2373
02:02:53.720 --> 02:02:55.920
first time I've seen a jar Boni promoter like this
2374
02:02:56.359 --> 02:02:57.960
struck to skip out on a paid day.
2375
02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:00.560
Well, what a great line. I thought that was funny
2376
02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:03.319
as shit. Yeah, it sounded like he was le disgusted.
2377
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:06.760
Yeah, dude, he probably popped off for real. Like on
2378
02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:08.720
commentary they said, all right, dude, hey, you gotta like
2379
02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:12.439
dial it a little. What the fuck? So Mundo tries
2380
02:03:12.479 --> 02:03:14.039
to go for the briefcase and they struggle with the
2381
02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:16.039
Dario is not giving it to him, and then oh
2382
02:03:16.119 --> 02:03:19.000
my god, it's Ricky Reyes the rot Wilders. Are your
2383
02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:23.479
babys are here. Holy shit, it's Ricky, and holy shit,
2384
02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:26.039
it's a little Cholo. Little Cholo's here and they're jumping
2385
02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:30.399
Punda Punda Puma and Mundo and uh, they're kicking their ass.
2386
02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:34.119
They're stomping them out until the big Dog is here.
2387
02:03:34.760 --> 02:03:36.840
We've talked about him on the show a few times.
2388
02:03:37.119 --> 02:03:39.079
We actually never got to talk about him when he
2389
02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:39.319
was this.
2390
02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:44.800
Big Rick is in the house from that EV two promotion,
2391
02:03:46.319 --> 02:03:51.039
the Philly based promotions, Ezekiel Jackson. He was their champion, the.
2392
02:03:51.199 --> 02:03:57.159
Last ew champion. Big Rick is so Big Rick grabs
2393
02:03:57.159 --> 02:03:59.000
Puma from my apron and he gives him the ten
2394
02:03:59.039 --> 02:04:07.720
beatsa where Ravens from. Yeah, dude, and then Ricky Rea
2395
02:04:07.840 --> 02:04:10.119
is a little chollo invent the shatter machine.
2396
02:04:10.760 --> 02:04:13.399
Dude they do? Wow? That was nuts. They hit it
2397
02:04:13.479 --> 02:04:14.000
clean too?
2398
02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:17.199
Were they Was this already a move on? Like? Were
2399
02:04:17.239 --> 02:04:19.840
they were these guys like a team yet the revival?
2400
02:04:20.680 --> 02:04:24.439
Oh I assume so I in my brain that's like.
2401
02:04:24.600 --> 02:04:29.760
Later they should have hit him with the cop killer
2402
02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:30.800
fucking tiger.
2403
02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:38.119
Yeah, ship, that would have been so fucking awesome. Wow. Yeah, No,
2404
02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:41.159
we get shatter machine though, and uh they throw Mundo
2405
02:04:41.199 --> 02:04:44.319
into Big Rick, and Big Rick goozles Mundo and he
2406
02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:46.399
hits him with a fucking Urinagi. I don't know why
2407
02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:48.600
he goozled him though, he wasn't like a jokes. Lady
2408
02:04:48.640 --> 02:04:54.000
goes into Uranagi and Vampiro says, damn dog, which is
2409
02:04:54.319 --> 02:04:56.359
again just end screen.
2410
02:04:56.680 --> 02:04:58.560
Commentary, exit match.
2411
02:04:58.680 --> 02:05:01.720
We met damn dog window. He just got hit with
2412
02:05:01.760 --> 02:05:06.359
the urinaugy. Uh shit, uh Ricky Rianz. By the way,
2413
02:05:06.399 --> 02:05:14.760
here is Cortes Castro and little Cholo is mister Cisco Nice,
2414
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:19.960
which is which is awesome. Yeah, they're uh, they're the
2415
02:05:20.399 --> 02:05:23.880
hired guns here for uh, for Dario Quito. And he says,
2416
02:05:24.000 --> 02:05:27.000
you think just you know, just Lucca doors compete here.
2417
02:05:28.199 --> 02:05:30.199
I don't think so. I told you I've been scouting
2418
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:32.479
the best fighters in the world, and these guys they
2419
02:05:32.600 --> 02:05:35.600
work for me. And he gives the one hundred thousand
2420
02:05:35.600 --> 02:05:41.880
dollars the Big Rick as the hired gun and here
2421
02:05:41.960 --> 02:05:46.520
you go, buddy, dude, that would have been fucking awesome.
2422
02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:49.800
Holy shit, But he gives one hundred thousand dollars the
2423
02:05:49.880 --> 02:05:52.680
Big Rick and the crowd booze, and Dario says, welcome
2424
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:56.479
to Luca Underground. And that's how we go off the
2425
02:05:56.520 --> 02:05:59.279
air with the first show here with already set in
2426
02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:04.159
the lines of Dario's gotta stable. He's the dickhead, fucking
2427
02:06:05.199 --> 02:06:08.960
die in charge. We got the top babies here setting
2428
02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:09.640
up a lot here.
2429
02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:13.399
Yeah, I mean they had a vision man, and they
2430
02:06:13.520 --> 02:06:15.720
execute it, you know, all the way out through the show.
2431
02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:17.359
I mean, we have a bunch of angles that have
2432
02:06:17.439 --> 02:06:19.840
already sort of spouted up here, like what are we
2433
02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:21.920
gonna do with Chavo Guerrero. We got them signed for
2434
02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:26.520
six shots. You know, we got Son of Havoc. You
2435
02:06:26.600 --> 02:06:28.479
know he's got the voice changer.
2436
02:06:28.399 --> 02:06:30.680
Dude, he's looking for some count out victories.
2437
02:06:30.840 --> 02:06:33.359
Right Yeah, Blue Day Moon's already like a big baby
2438
02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:36.760
face here that the crowds is gonna get behind for sure. Yeah,
2439
02:06:36.880 --> 02:06:40.520
they got the mill Muertes thing coming together. Prince Puma
2440
02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:44.319
looked great, Mundo. I'm sure. I'm sure the next episode
2441
02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:47.560
is like them teaming together versus Ricky Reyes and little Cholo.
2442
02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:50.560
Yeah right, you might be right. Actually, if not, you
2443
02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:52.920
know a few because maybe the first taping they probably
2444
02:06:52.960 --> 02:06:55.840
did like two shots of like something totally different for
2445
02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:58.359
the live prod or whatever. But oh sure, yeah, I'm
2446
02:06:58.399 --> 02:07:00.680
not positive, but I'm sure we'll talk about. I h
2447
02:07:01.359 --> 02:07:02.159
it's got my juices.
2448
02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:05.119
Talk about does a question for you you've seen sure
2449
02:07:05.720 --> 02:07:10.159
season two and three, does does like the production change
2450
02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:12.560
or does it kind of look like this throughout the entirety.
2451
02:07:12.279 --> 02:07:15.520
Of this much looks like this, Like if anything changes,
2452
02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:18.199
it's you know, they get kind of better with the shots,
2453
02:07:18.399 --> 02:07:20.720
Like I don't know if there's always six fucking roamors.
2454
02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:25.800
I think the cutting is pretty much what like what
2455
02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:28.119
you're gonna get here, like kind of like in your face,
2456
02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:31.000
Like all over the place, the lighting is all the same.
2457
02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:35.119
Here they change maybe the canvas and little things like that.
2458
02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:38.119
There's more people start coming, so like it fills out
2459
02:07:38.119 --> 02:07:40.680
a lot more. But in terms of look, this is
2460
02:07:40.760 --> 02:07:43.359
pretty much what they stay with for pretty much most
2461
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:45.359
of the run. Like I said, they eventually leave here
2462
02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:49.199
to go to a different temple, and that one's a
2463
02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:53.680
little brighter, which I also didn't love. Yeah, no's it
2464
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:54.760
stays pretty close to this.
2465
02:07:55.199 --> 02:07:59.640
Sure, Okay, did you like this? I enjoyed it.
2466
02:07:59.720 --> 02:07:59.920
Yeah.
2467
02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:03.479
I thought it was a quick watch. You know, I've
2468
02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:07.199
changed as a wrestling fan since this first aired. Sure,
2469
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:10.640
And you know I was able to get through everything
2470
02:08:10.720 --> 02:08:12.359
I thought. You know, I was excited to see what
2471
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:15.079
they would do and the follow up. And I mean,
2472
02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:17.399
I know that a lot of people think very highly
2473
02:08:17.479 --> 02:08:20.680
of this show and it's run, and I'd like to
2474
02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:22.880
also think highly of it. So I'd love to see
2475
02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:23.239
more of it.
2476
02:08:23.359 --> 02:08:26.399
Yeah, yeah, we'll have to keep tapping a dude. I mean,
2477
02:08:26.439 --> 02:08:31.000
like Darioquato like changes what a general manager is in
2478
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:33.119
my brain because like you know, for years and years,
2479
02:08:33.199 --> 02:08:37.000
like it's a heel fucking guy and the commissioner or
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general manager like of course they're gonna be a dickhead
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and this, that and the other. There's tropes that like
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kind of follow that forever, and Darioquato becomes not only
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does this guy fucking fill this character out perfectly, but
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what they do with them and how he is the
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promoter and and what's important. I think you'll like it
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a lot kind of the how they play their promoter
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role here where like you know, there's just a little
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jumping out of here, but there's stuff where like you know,
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there's you can cash in stuff, but you have to
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give Dario like a week heads up because he needs
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a week to promote the match, because that is cool. Yeah, yeah,
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there's stuff like that like that makes the show super
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fucking cool. And I'm excited, like you know, once we
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tap back more into this or however we want to
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do it for you to experience all that, and I'm
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excited to kind of relive this stuff too, because I sure, really,
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I really liked a lot of this stuff. Well, that
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is it for Lucha Underground's debut episode, and that is
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it for our show. Thank you for joining us. Everybody,
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make sure to check us on on Patreon. That's patreon
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loves it so much, and find out what we're doing
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we'll be back next week for another edition of the
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Deadlock Podcast.
