Twelve Days Out

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In just 12 days, you're going to decide who runs
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the House, who runs the Senate. And border states are
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going to get to decide whether the last two years
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of immigration enforcement get undone. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ALREADY TOLD
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YOU WHAT UNDONE LOOKS LIKE. YOU SEE THIS? LAST WEEK
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A MAN STOOD UP AT AN EVENT WITH HOUSE DEMOCRATIC
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LEADER HAKIM TEMU OBAMA JEFFRIES AND ASKED HIM STRAIGHT OUT,
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WILL A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS BRING BACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
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DEPORTED TO THIRD COUNTRIES? This is the man who wants
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the speaker's gavel. Listen to his answer.
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One of the things that we've done in this Congress
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is continue to make clear that Donald Trump's violent mass
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deportation machine does not get a dime. And it does
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not get a dime because it's inconsistent with the American
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values that have made our country exceptional. There's a lot
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of repair work that is going to have to be
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done to correct the injustices that have been inflicted on
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the American people and on law-abiding immigrant families, and we're
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prepared to do that work.
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Repair work? He was even asked whether Democrats would bring
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back people who've already been deported. He didn't say no.
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He called enforcement of our own immigration laws as violent
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mass deportation. And he said they're prepared to do the work.
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Think about what he is saying. We are 12 days out.
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And the pitch is to defund border enforcement and bring
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these people back. SO WHERE DO THINGS ACTUALLY STAND? HOW
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CLOSE ARE WE FROM UNDOING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HISTORIC SUCCESS ON
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THE BORDER? HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THROWING OPEN THE
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DOOR TO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST POLICIES AND BLOCKING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA
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FOR THE REST OF HIS TERM? WELL, IN THE SENATE,
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REPUBLICANS HOLD 53 SEATS. DEMOCRATS NEED A NET GAIN OF FOUR.
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And six of them are Republican seats, Alaska, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Ohio,
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and Texas. The seventh is Michigan, where Democrats are defending
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an open seat with Abdul Mohamed El-Saeed, a Bernie Sanders-endorsed
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candidate whose sister supports the Muslim Brotherhood, running on Medicare
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for all. Texas, early voting started Monday, and one poll
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has Ken Paxson up a single point, while another has James,
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where in the world are you, Tallarico, up two. That's
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a coin flip. And Texas, let's hope Democrat voters do
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what James Tallarico did and just simply not show up.
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House is closer than that. Democrats need a net gain
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of just three seats. And the forecasters are already writing
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the obituary. Now the same forecasters went into 2020 expecting
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Democrats to grow their House majority. Democrats lost seats instead.
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I'm hoping for a similar result this cycle. And look
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at what is in a forecast. Cook's own analysts report
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that Republicans have the financial edge in almost every single
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competitive Senate state. The president says his political operation will
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spend more than $ 400 million by Election Day, and five
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governor's races are now rated pure toss-ups, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Kansas,
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and Wisconsin. In Arizona, Katie Hobbs is trying to hang
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on against Andy Biggs, which is exactly why Arizona's 5th
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District has an open seat. IT'S NOT A REFERENDUM ON
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GAS PRICES OR THE WAR IN IRAN. IT'S A DECISION
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ABOUT WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED BORDER ENFORCEMENT INHUMANE GET
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THE VOTES TO UNWIND IT. IT'S A VOTE ABOUT WHETHER
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THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WILL OR WHETHER THEY'LL DOMINATE THE
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FAKE NEWS WITH INVESTIGATIONS, IMPEACHMENTS AND PROSECUTIONS. IT'S A VOTE
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ABOUT WHETHER DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE THE VOTE TO STOP THE
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FILIBUSTER WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AND ENACT
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WHATEVER RADICAL LEGISLATION THEY SO DESIRE. IT'S A VOTE ABOUT
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WHETHER CHAOS AND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS WILL I'M NOT GOING TO
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TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
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WHILE THEY SIT THERE AND BLAME REPUBLICANS, AKEEM JEFFRIES TOLD
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YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE WOULD DO WITH THE GAVEL. NOW
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YOU HAVE THE CHOICE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT
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TO HAND IT TO HIM. FORMER PENAL COUNTY SHERIFF MARK LAM,
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REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FROM CONGRESS IN ARIZONA'S FIFTH DISTRICT. Stakes could
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not be higher. I'm feeling pretty good, though. I'm not
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following the fake news. I'm not a doomer gloomer. I'm
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optimistic that we're going to do good, but people have
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to show up and vote Republican up and down the ticket.
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What do you think?
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Well, I think you're exactly right, David.
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First of all, the fact that Hakeem Jeffries would insinuate
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that our country is exceptional only because people came here illegally,
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people with a 65 average IQ or people that couldn't
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make it in their own third world.
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Countries, so they came to ours.
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The fact that he would insinuate that that's what makes
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our country exceptional is disrespectful to families like mine who
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came on the Mayflower, who have built such a beautiful
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country that these people want to come to illegally.
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So shame on him.
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The American way is one of hard work.
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And building and freedom and all of that.
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And the Democrats do not believe in this. They also
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believe in open borders, which you've so well put. This
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is what they want to bring back. Hakeem Jeffries, the
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leader of it, they want to bring back these open borders.
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And Arizona is ground zero for a lot of that.
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We have a really important.
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Race ahead of us. But I'm like you, David. I'm
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an optimist.
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I think the polls are garbage. I think they want
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to keep Republicans at home. Their goal is that Republicans
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don't vote Democrat. Their goal is that Republicans don't leave
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out their house to vote. And that is where we
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may or may not lose. We're going to win if
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everybody shows up and votes. Even if most of us
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show up and vote, we're still.
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Going to win.
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What we cannot have IS REPUBLICANS SITTING THIS ELECTION OUT?
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IT IS TOO IMPORTANT.
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BROKEN BORDERS, OPEN BORDERS, MORE.
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TAXES, LESS FREEDOM, ALL OF THAT IS ON THE LINE.
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YOU'VE GOT TO VOTE.
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YEAH, AND IT'S NOT JUST POLICY THAT'S ON THE LINE.
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THERE'S A BIGGER PLAY HERE, TOO. IF WE ARE TO
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LOSE THE HOUSE, AND IF IT'S NOT CLOSE, THERE ARE
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A LOT OF REPUBLICANS who have been sidelined by this president,
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the Chris Christie's of the world, the Nikki Haley's of
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the world, the Mitt Romney's of the world, the Mike
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Pence's of the world, even maybe possibly the Bush's, who
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are sitting back hoping, hoping that this thing doesn't go
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MAGA's way. Because then there becomes an opportunity to go
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and blame Trump for losing the House. And when his
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agenda doesn't get passed and the Democrats start impeachments and
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prosecutions and investigations and defunding the government, and we all
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sit here in a state of chaos, You'll have Republicans
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sitting back abandoning Trump, treating him like a lame duck. Meanwhile,
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this establishment swamp that we've put on the sidelines will
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come back more motivated than ever. So we're fighting socialists
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on one side and we're fighting an establishment that we
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fought so hard to beat on the other. That is
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what's at stake here besides just America itself, right?
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You're exactly right.
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And this is why patriots like myself who care more
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about America and the American people than we do about
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the Republican or the Democrat Party. This is about those
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who love this country and who want freedom and who
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love God and the Constitution and who believe in families.
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This is what's on the line. And then there's those
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who don't. And that's the other side. That's Democrats. They
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They tell you things like they can't tell you the
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difference between a man and a woman. I mean, and
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then you've got Republicans in the Senate who basically have
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been an impediment to President Trump and.
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His agenda as well.
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So we've got a lot of really great candidates trying
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to make it onto this into the House, and I
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think will probably hold the Senate.
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But I am optimistic.
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I think we're actually going to hold the House.
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But I'm really pleading with Republicans, put aside your anger,
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put aside your frustration.
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You have to get out and vote.
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This election is so important, because like you said, it's
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not just Democrats and socialists waiting in the wings. It
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is Republicans, it is socialists and bad government disguised as
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Republicans also waiting in the wings.
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Right, Sheriff Lamb. And I think you're going to do
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an amazing job. I'm really excited for your race. Good
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luck to you, my friend. Keep fighting and we'll see
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you in Washington.
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Thank you, brother. It's good to see you again.
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Thank you. Coming up, 10 years ago, California voters were
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sold to promise legalized pot and organized crime goes away.
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Now a sheriff up by the Oregon border says organized
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crime is actually running the show with makeshift greenhouses and
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banned pesticides, deeds that spack out of the county. California
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might love its pot, but apparently so does organized crime.
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Now we're going to find out who's behind it. Then
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Joy Vila spent 15 years inside Scientology. She says she
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had to choose between moving up And Jesus, more on
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that later. Stay with us.
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Ah, California, the land of avocados and abs, blondes and beaches.
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Basically everything the Beach Boys used to sing about. And
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along that sandy shoreline, it's easy to notice how the
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sweet scent of coconut oil and sea spray has been
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replaced with the skunky stench of sativa. Yep, California, they
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seem to love their pot. And 10 years ago, California
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voters were sold the promise that legal marijuana would bring
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regulation in tax revenue and push organized crime out of
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the business. Today, in Siskiyou County, right up against the
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Oregon border, the sheriff says organized crime is running the business.
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So follow this drive into the hills there, and you'll
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see hoop houses by the thousands. Those are these little
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makeshift greenhouses with hooped PVC and plastic sheeting. It looks
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about as third world as it sounds. A county grand
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jury counted roughly 5,000 large-scale grow sites. The sheriff estimates
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there could be as many as 7,000 illegal growers in
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one subdivision alone. That's about one in five people in
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the entire county 2025, his deputies pulled more than 330,000
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plants and seized more than 54,000 pounds of marijuana. And
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this isn't harmless backyard weed either. Investigators found banned pesticides
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with foreign language labels at more than 8 in 10
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rated sites. The county board voted unanimously to declare a
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local emergency. And the people doing the raids have paid
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for it.
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These gangs use pesticides filled with Chinese superchemicals. LaRue's deputies
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have suffered chemical burns. Dogs have been poisoned to death.
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And they even had to call out the National Guard's
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Weapons of Mass Destruction Unit.
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Who's behind it? Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue says around 60% of
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the growers in that subdivision are Chinese. AND HE SAYS
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SOME OPERATIONS HAVE ASSOCIATIONS WITH CHINESE ORGANIZED CRIME, THE TRIADS,
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AND SOME LINK BACK TO COMMUNIST CHINA ITSELF. WHEN INVESTIGATORS
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TRACE THE DEEDS, THE PROPERTIES RUN BACK TO OUT-OF-COUNTY OWNERS
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THROUGH WHAT'S BEEN CALLED A SHELL GAME OF NAMES, AND
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THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. In 2018, the FBI and DEA
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in Sacramento took down a network that was wiring money
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from China's Fujian province to straw buyers, and they moved
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to seize more than 100 houses. So what's Sacramento's answer?
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Governor Newsom's statewide cannabis task force has made about 100
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arrests since 2022. 100 across the state in four years.
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The Siskiyou County Sheriff's Office made 118 arrests last year
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by itself. And in California, illegal cultivation is generally a misdemeanor.
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If you're a foreign syndicate... What exactly is the deterrent?
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This week, a Northern California congressman sent a letter to
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the FBI. It sent it to Kash Patel asking for
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a joint federal investigation, including any federal or foreign ties
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and who's financing a coordination with ICE on removals and
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a look at how banned chemicals are getting into the
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country at all. Was foreign money behind this? The sheriff
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thinks so. Finding out it's precisely the FBI's job, California
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legalized marijuana, to drive organized crime out of business. In
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Siskiyou County, organized crime moved in and bought it. Do
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you know what I mean now? Congressman James Gallagher, Republican
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of California's 1st District. Congressman, welcome to David Pollak Prime Time.
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I mean, this is exactly the opposite reason why you
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legalize drugs, right? I mean, they're still doing the illegal thing,
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whether it's legal or not.
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I mean, out here in California, exactly. They said, hey, well,
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let's legalize and make recreational use of marijuana legal in California.
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And of course, they promised all those things, like you said.
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you know, a lot of the marijuana grows and dispensaries
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that went legal soon discovered that California taxes you way
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too much.
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Taxes and regulations in California and the illicit market continued
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to blossom and grew even more. And as you've seen,
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you know, we have a lot of these now illegal
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grows that are out in the rural parts of California,
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especially in my district and Siskiyou County, Lassen County, many
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of the Northern counties. And what we see is, is
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a lot of them are backed by cartel, you know,
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In this case, China, there's a lot of evidence that
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China is backing a lot of this.
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There's human trafficking.
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Going on, you know, bringing people out there to, you know,
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cover these grows, to protect these grows. It's a huge
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criminal element. And all of the burden has fallen on
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local law enforcement to, you know, take care of this.
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They've gotten very little support, you know, from the state
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and sheriffs like Sheriff LaRue in Siskiyou County have, have,
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you know, called me and said, hey, we need some help.
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You know, we need some help with this.
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This is ridiculous.
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This, of course, is all the result of bad policy,
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but we can do something about it by getting greater
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enforcement and saying.
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That, hey, we are no longer going to allow this.
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It also helps us go after, it continues the mission
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of this administration to go after transnational gangs who are
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plaguing our communities and to stop China, you know, from
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this increased influence. I mean, we saw that they were
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having grow houses and in single family homes, you know,
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and that's where you got some of those stats and
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they traced it back to these shell companies that linked
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back to China. Let's get on top of this issue.
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And that was the impetus for my letter to Kash Patel,
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who has.
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Been doing a great job.
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focus on that. That is our hope is that they
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can put a real focus on going after, you know,
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these transnational gangs that are running these marijuana operations in California.
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Yeah, and this is exactly what the federal government needs
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to get involved in. And again, it's just another instance
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of California not doing, from Sacramento, Gavin Newsom's failures, not
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doing what he needs to do to stop the fraud,
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to stop the illegal aliens or illegal people from voting,
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non-citizens voting. Then you add on top of that illegal
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drug growth in the northern part of the state, which
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is still illegal federally. This is exactly where the FBI
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should come in. And yet again, yet again do what
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California is begging its government to do, and that's actually
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enforce the laws of the states and stop letting criminals, non-citizens,
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and fraudsters get whatever they want. Well, Gavin Newsom looks
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the other way. This is exactly why we need the
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FBI to come in, right?
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Absolutely.
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And, you know, the other element here, you know, that's
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come to light is you know, in Mexico, a lot
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of the avocado groves are controlled by cartel. And this
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is another way we're getting impacted. They're dumping, you know,
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huge amounts of avocados into the market to undermine California.
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Farmers, you know, who grow avocados.
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It's hurting their market. So there, and again, you know,
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we have to get on top of these cartels. They
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are totally, you know, violating the law. They're embedding themselves
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in our country, embedding themselves in these marijuana grows in
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the North State.
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But there's something that we can really do about it.
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And I'm encouraged that I think that this administration has
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shown that they want to really go after these cartels.
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They want to get at the root of this drug problem,
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of human trafficking problem. And so I think we've got
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a real opportunity to show how we can do it
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right and say, no, we're not going to allow you
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to do this to undermine our laws to undermine.
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Our water quality.
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And by the way, you talked about the pesticides that
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these guys are using that are going directly into our watersheds.
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So if you really want to do something, Gavin Newsom
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needs to wake up. But if he's not going to
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do it, then the federal government's going to come in
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and do it for him.
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Yet again, another one of Gavin Newsom's failure that goes,
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it really flies in the face of all the policies
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he pretends to care about. I mean, environmental concerns is
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supposed to be what Democrats care about, right? But now
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it's the Republicans, yet again, looking to protect people from
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dangerous pesticides. Congressman, thank you so much for being here
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and making us aware of this. And thanks for your
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advocacy to Kash Patel to do something about it.
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Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.
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Pleasure. Coming up, for 15 years, Joy Vila was one
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of Scientology's celebrity faces, even recording videos to recruit new members.
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She says that behind the smile, she was unhappy and
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that to move up, she was being told to give
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up Jesus. Church calls her claims false. Joy Vila joins
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me right after this.
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Tom Cruise, celebrity senators, a founder who wrote science fiction
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and teaching so guarded you pay to unlock them one
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level at a time. Scientology has always been one of
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the most mysterious religions in the world. Tonight, a woman
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who spent 15 years inside says that to move up,
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Scientology wanted her to give up Jesus, and that's where
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she drew the line. You know the name. She's the
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singer who walked the Grammys red carpet in a Make
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America Great Again gown in 2017. For 15 years, she
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was also a Scientologist and not a casual one. She
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was one of their celebrity faces. Here she is at St. Hill,
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the church's headquarters in England, recruiting.
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Look.
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I highly recommend you decide to train because it will
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give you incredible amounts of power for me in my
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day-to-day life as an artist and in session. Train here
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at St.
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Hill.
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You will not regret it.
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She said that video was made probably less than six
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months before her breakdown. In her words, she says, I
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was so absolutely miserable when I recorded that, but I
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was able to hide it. Now, why does this matter?
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beyond just one celebrity. Because right now, there are videos
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aimed at young people insisting you can be a Scientologist
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and a Christian at the same time. It's no conflict
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at all. But Joy Vila says she believed exactly that
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for 15 years and that it was a lie that
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kept her inside. Scripture settled that question about 2,000 years ago.
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No one can serve two masters. Joy Vila says it
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took her 15 years to learn it, She chose to
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serve Jesus and only him. Joining me now is singer
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and author Joy Vila. Joy, welcome back to David Pollack
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Prime Time. What a story you've told. Tell me about
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your journey from Scientology, and it's never really, I guess,
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away from Jesus, but back to Jesus, and as a result,
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having to leave Scientology.
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Yes, it's quite an emotional journey, and 15, about 15
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years ago, over 15 years now, I was struggling a lot.
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I came out of, I was in Hollywood and there
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was a lot of craziness. There's a lot of, you know,
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sexual immorality. There's a lot of people trying to take
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advantage of you. And I experienced all of those things. drugs, alcohol.
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So I came out and was looking for a clean path.
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And there's this beautiful center called Celebrity Center in the
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middle of Hollywood. I was booked to be a model
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in my modeling days. I modeled all around the world,
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40 countries. I've modeled, I've been on, you know, in Vogue, Italia.
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And so this was me coming back. And so Celebrity
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Center in Los Angeles says you can do acting classes
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here and we love what you do as a model.
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And I was raised Christian, absolutely. And so I thought,
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this is a little weird. You guys call yourself a church.
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And they said, don't worry. It's just about acting. It's
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just about human, human communication. It's about public relations. It's
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all the things why we serve actors and celebrities and
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fellow would be celebrities. Fast forward to me being $ 2
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million in with them married to a former Scientologist or
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married to a Scientologist at the time, I should say
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when I was a Scientologist, um, And being stuck in
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a system that would not let me go and pressured
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me every day to take the next course, the next course.
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It took me about two, almost two years to get
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away from them because the system is so deep and
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so strong. Once you're in, you can't just get out.
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And by the way, it takes years for them to
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show you the weird stuff, right? So I told them
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I'm a Christian. They're like, so am I, so am I.
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At least four or five staff members raised their hand
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and said, I'm a Christian too. So I thought, all right, great.
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And I would ask them explicitly, can I be a
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Christian and a Scientologist? They said, absolutely, there's no problem.
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They had me talk to other Christians and to get
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them to join Scientology. There is Christian ministers, ministers, Baptist
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so-called ministers who have churches who are high-ranking, high-level Scientologists,
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and they will tell you all day long that there's
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no problem, there's no contrast, it can work together, it
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can be synergesic, right? There's a synergy between Scientology and Christianity.
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This is not true. Because the longer I was in,
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the more they were telling me, like, who do you
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pray to? Why did you tweet about, you know, going
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to a church in Tennessee? Because I was like, oh, hey, guys,
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is there any good, you know, Joy Tribe online, all
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my followers? Is there a good church in Tennessee? I
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was there on tour during 2020 and very desperate and
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needing some Christian fellowship. And They pulled me in. And
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by the way, when you get pulled in, you get pressured,
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you get talked about, you get absolutely grilled and you
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pay for it, $ 300 or so an hour to confess
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your sins. It's called a confessional. There's something wrong with you.
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The sins are called overt's. And now I'm already locked
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in the system and I'm going, well, what's the big deal?
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And they said, it looks like you are leaving Scientology.
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You are not allowed to tweet that. And I said, no, no, no,
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I'm just trying. I'm a Christian. You guys know I'm
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a Christian. And I could feel the pressure. They were
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looking at me and they said, well, who do you
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pray to? Why are you praying before your meals? You know,
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you can't pray while you're doing the Scientology services. Yeah,
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you can be a Christian. It ended up being so bad. David,
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I was at wit's end in the UK during COVID,
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towards the end of COVID. on my knees every day
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and asking them to help me. And they finally said,
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you know, you cannot go to the next level. And
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my friend, Stacey Francis, who is a very famous musician,
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she was on The Voice. She's one of the finalists
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on The Voice. She personally told me, you cannot be
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a Christian and be a Scientologist. They are going to
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drill that out of you. It's called auditing. I didn't
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believe her. And so I'm writing my book about this,
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by the way. I have a book I'm writing right now,
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which will be published and coming out, which will tell
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my story and will tell Christians how to avoid this trap.
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Nobody intends to join a cult. You sign the paperwork
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thinking it's a club, it's a group, maybe they're a
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little kooky. But wow, look at all these things and
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the things. It works. It works in the beginning. I
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got auditions. I got connections. And it wasn't even just
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their connections, which, yes, they do do that. But it
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was also they were teaching me how to audition, how
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to represent myself better. But then once you get something good,
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they take the claim for that. They say, see that?
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That's not prayer. That's not God. That's Scientology.
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That's L.
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Ron Hubbard. See, that's source. They worship that man. After
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every course period, we would have to do courses. We'd
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have to do auditing. We have to do. I was
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doing 12 hours a day by the end of it,
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not getting paid. and being looked at to become one
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of their ordained like chaplains in Scientology. That's what they wanted.
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They wanted to steal my natural inclination to be a
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minister and to minister to people that my dad gave
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me as a Christian minister. And they wanted me to
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use that for Scientology.
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So, so essentially that's the weird stuff you're referring to.
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Like at first it's just, oh, okay, this is cool.
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And then next thing you know, it's like, what are
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you doing? You can't do this. You can't do this.
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Pay us while we tell you what you can and
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can't do. And it becomes sort of culty, and then
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you have to get to that next level in order
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to move up in the system and sort of build
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that status. And because you're not following their orders, you're
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not allowed to move up. And so it's this weird
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sort of psychological experiment, essentially, getting people to be totally
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loyal to the religion. Wow, that is fascinating. Now, look,
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real quick, I've got like a minute left. But now,
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of course, Scientology, here's what you say, and you've given
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them millions of dollars over the course of your career
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and your involvement with the organization. They say essentially that
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now you're just trying to make a buck off of them, basically,
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and exploit your experience. What do you say to them?
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They actually said how unchristian. You can quote them. You
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can find the quote. When they saw that I came
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out and started talking about it and telling the truth
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and telling my story, and I don't blame individual Scientologists.
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People think all those people working there are evil. They're not.
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They're trapped. Nobody intends to join a cult. It's so
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easy to get sucked up into this. They prey on
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the weak, but they also prey on the strong. And
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if you have a bad day and you need something,
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your marriage is falling apart and you need some therapy,
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that's what they're going to give you. If you need
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confidence to get to the audition, that's what they're going
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to give you. If your desire is to make money,
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that's what they're going to give you.
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They have.
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courses and structures at the bottom level where you are
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stuck there thinking that you're just doing normal things and
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it's a community for years until you get to that
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next level and you see the evilness. And now you're
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too committed. You're too invested. But I'm telling you, the
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people at the top at the very evil, they know
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what Scientology is. They know what they're doing to people.
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Those are the people that are trapping. And in my book,
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I talk about how to avoid being stuck by cults
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because it's the same system narcissists do, love bombing. It's
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the same system that human traffickers do. It's the same
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system that Hollywood does and that the left does. It
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is all the same system. So you think you could
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get caught up in a cult? Well, I'm sorry to
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tell you, it's very easy, unfortunately, if you don't know
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how to spot it.
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Joy Vila, compelling, compelling story. Look forward to reading that book.
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And of course, as always, thank you so much for
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being here.
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Salute, it's a pleasure. And Jesus Christ is Lord. I'm
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so glad I'm out. Amen.
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Still ahead, a flag wipes out Florida State's last chance
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touchdown in the next day. The Miami Hurricanes move up
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to number one in the country. Billions of dollars are
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bet on college sports, and the NCAA checks referees' betting accounts. Basketball, baseball, softball,
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but not football. Congressman Jimmy Petronas wants the officials investigated,
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and he joins me next and later. The United Nations
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is warning that governments could one day get inside your brain.
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Chrissy Newton has one reaction. No way! Don't go anywhere.
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Last Saturday night, Hard Rock Stadium, Florida State Seminoles and
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third-ranked Miami went into double overtime. Miami scored first in
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the second overtime, converted a two-pointer. Florida State, one last shot.
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Fourth and 21. I'd already walked out of the room
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and said, I've seen the way this one ends. Ashton
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Daniels throws. Makai Danzy catches it in the end zone. Touchdown,
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Florida State. Except flag holding on the left tackle. The
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touchdown comes off. Now it's fourth and 31. Next pass
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ruled an interception. The review upholds it. And the game
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is over. By the way, it was totally a catch
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as well. Miami wins, air quotes, 43 to 35. And
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the next day, Miami moves up to the number one
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team in the country, celebrating winning, supposedly, over an unranked team.
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But whatever. That holding call? NBC's rules analyst and former
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NFL referee said it shouldn't have been thrown. And here's
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Florida State's head coach.
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Look.
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You have the holding call, which was, I mean, it
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was an absolute joke. I mean, I called and talked
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to Gary Patterson, head of officials, and I've not heard
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his final review from it, but I've got a lot
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of respect for the job that everybody has, and you
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go through the course of that game, you know, Same
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thing happened a few plays earlier that was not called.
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But in that moment, that play, it's a shame. It's
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a lot of judgment calls and all things, but that
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was bad. And I haven't got the final response from them,
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but if it's anything less than what I said, then
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it tells me everything I need to know.
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And just think about that. The head coach has to
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pick up the phone to find out whether the people
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deciding his season got it right. Now, why are we
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talking about college football on a political talk show? Because.
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It's not a game anymore. Americans are legally betting a
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record of $ 167 billion on sports. Schools are now paying
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players directly up to more than $ 20 million a year
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per school on top of NIL deals. And in January,
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the Justice Department charged 26 people in a scheme to
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fix college basketball games, including 17 former players. Nearly 30
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games rigged over two seasons. So what's the NCAA's answer here? Well,
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they say it monitors the sportsbook accounts of championship officials
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in basketball, baseball, and softball. But get this, not football.
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So in the sport with the biggest television money and
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some of the biggest betting action, no one is watching
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the officials except every fan at home or maybe even
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in the stands with their hands on their head in disbelief,
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mouth open, pointing at the jumbotron. The NCAA leaves a
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responsibility to the conferences to supervise its own referees and
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review its own calls. Essentially, they let the kids grade
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their own homework. Yeah, I got an A +. I
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did good. Now, let's be fair. No one has shown
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that an official took a dime, at least not yet.
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AND NOW ONE FLORIDA CONGRESSMAN SAYS IT IS TIME SOMEBODY
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AT LEAST TOOK A LOOK. POSTING ON X, REPRESENTATIVE FROM
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FLORIDA'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, JIMMY PETRONAS, POSTED THIS, SAYING... SATURDAY
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NIGHT WASN'T JUST TWO BLOWN CALLS BACK-TO-BACK. HAIL MARYS AT
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FLORIDA STATE. FLORIDA STATE HAS EVERY REASON TO QUESTION WHETHER
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THE ACC'S VENDETTA AGAINST THEM HAS MADE ITS WAY ONTO
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THE FIELD. FSU STOOD UP TO THE ACC WHEN NOBODY
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ELSE WANTED TO. THEY FOUGHT TO ESCAPE THE GARBAGE DEAL
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ITS LEADERSHIP PUT THEM IN. AND NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING TO
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PROTECT COLLEGE SPORTS ACT, WHICH RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER
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THE ACC IS TRYING TO PROTECT ITS OWN INTERESTS. AT
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THEIR EXPENSE. COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS A BIG BUSINESS, AND THE
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EXPLOSION OF SPORTS BETTING HAS RAISED THE STAKES EVEN HIGHER.
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SPORTS BETTING ISN'T A FAD. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. AND
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WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIDING ON A GAME OUTCOME, WE
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CAN'T AFFORD TO IGNORE THE GROWING RISK OF CORRUPTION WHEN
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REFC COACHES MAKING MILLIONS AND PLAYERS CASHING IN. THEY'RE NOT
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IMMUNE TO TEMPTATION TO GET THEIR OWN PIECE OF THE PIE.
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THEY'RE HUMAN, TOO. AND THAT RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY
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AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE GAME. INVESTIGATING THE OFFICIALS IS
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STEP ONE. IT'S TIME TO HOLD THE ACC ACCOUNTABLE. AND
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THE CONGRESSMAN IS RIGHT. WHEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIDE ON
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A FLAG, TRUST US. IT'S NOT AN ANSWER. IT'S AN INVITATION.
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JOINING ME NOW, CONGRESSMAN JIMMY PETRONAS, REPUBLICANS OF THE Welcome
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to the show. Go Knolls. And I am so proud
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of you for standing up and calling it out like
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it is. Something is up when you see these blown calls,
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when you see these ridiculous penalties deciding the outcome of
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a game. And everybody in the whole world watches this
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and goes, what? I'm not saying anybody did anything wrong,
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but at least we should look at.
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It, right?
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I've chilled several times as you were pointing out the
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obvious that is not just in my mind, but on
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thousands of fans all over our nation as we look
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at the challenges and where this five-wide West is. sports
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is going. It's no longer amateur anymore. And, you know,
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as I was talking to some folks earlier today, you know,
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the one factor I haven't brought into it also is
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the collusion in the conflict of interest with sports agents
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representing the players and also representing the coaches as we're
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pitting these coaches against each other. against the conferences, against
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the universities. I mean, we have got a real mess
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on our hands, and asking Congress the ones to fix,
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I think, is pretty comical. So, you know, we've got
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to start calling these conferences out. And I've always said
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transparency is the absolute best disinfectant. You cannot tell me
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that the temptation does not exist in the pillow talk
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between spouses and maybe their husband, who could be a referee,
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or the children, or the nephews, or the cousins, or
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the brothers that are watching the collegiate athletic process roll
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forward and the money that is changing hands every single day,
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including the TV contracts.
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Yeah, and it's an excellent point. And look, I get it.
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People want to say everybody, no matter who, if you're watching,
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if you're a Miami fan, you watch and say, no,
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it was a good call. If you're a Florida State fan,
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you hate it. And I understand all of that. That
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happens in every game. There's always a questionable call. And
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at the end of the day, it's the refs on
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the field to get to make it. But exactly like
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you're talking about, the transparency in the business side of it,
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it's what's important because. there is a lot of money
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changing hands. There is a lot of stakes at play.
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And just relying, when the outcomes are so significant, just
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relying on refs on the field, you know, this is
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one of those instances where exactly like you said, transparency
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is key. Let's make sure that the people calling these games,
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you know, there are no conflicts. Because when money is
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on the line, there is too much potential for personal
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interest to start coming to play. And when you see
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things as obvious as people see, when their team wins
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or loses based on a call that Everybody in America
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is like, what? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
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We need to be sure that there isn't something. And look,
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I've been watching football a long time. I'm a Florida
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State fan. I went to Florida State, so I am
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biased here. I've seen a lot of games come and go,
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and it doesn't upset me as much as it used to.
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My life goes on. But I'll tell you what, if
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there's people who have business interests on the line, that
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has significant impacts other than the hat you wear to
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the next family outing when somebody's a Hurricane fan. And
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that's what you got to fix, right?
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Absolutely.
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Well, all right, let's go look at the Michigan game
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early this year with one second on the clock. You know, yeah,
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I get it. The opponent was paid big dollars to
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come into Michigan to play that game, and it was
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a season opener. It was supposed to be, you know,
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an easy game for them, for the Wolverines to win.
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There was no expectations for the Wolverines to lose that game,
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and this is the same thing we're seeing. If Florida
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State was up 14 points, you know, in the end
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of the fourth quarter, nobody would have cared. But now
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you've got a game at the end and you have
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two Hail Marys that are called back. You have a
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holding call where no holding calls were called.
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I mean, just.
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is the inconsistency in how officiating is done. And to
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your point earlier, it's different from conference to conference to conference.
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I think the ACC may be trying to get it
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right by allowing the audio to be played of what
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the officials are going through, but we need pure transparency
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in this taking place. And I really, I feel like
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a coach should be able to challenge any penalty that
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they see fit moving forward out of an abundance of
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concerns of what we just saw with the Florida state
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Miami game, which again, I think, you know, it broke
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my heart and okay, but you know what, there was
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irregularities there that definitely rise a lot of concerns that
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need to be explained.
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And that's exactly right. And look, And it's not just
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the refs. Maybe the refs are betting on it or not.
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It's also, you know, you have to look at sort
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of the antitrust issue, too. If the ACC needs to
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protect its reputation, Miami being the number one team. Florida
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State takes out Miami. Well, the ACC doesn't have a
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player in the national championship. That costs the ACC money.
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And so when you have ACC refs making questionable calls
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and it could potentially have an impact on the bottom
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line of the actual conference, these are things that need
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to be in the sunlight because there are other organizations
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and other businesses that have regulations so these things don't happen.
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This isn't just about winning or losing. And that one
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second clock thing, Congressman, that was the craziest thing. They go, well,
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that's not the official clock. It was so bad that
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when Florida State played after their long blackout in the
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game after, they kept saying official clock on the field
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does not put a disclaimer on it. That's how ridiculous
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this is getting. Congressman, I'm wishing you the best luck
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in trying to figure out a way to put some
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sunlight on the way these decisions are made and put
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a sunlight on the financials of these conferences that are
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really policing themselves when serious dollars are on the line,
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not just from the better. but from the people who
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invest in these conferences as well, and the universities that
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are involved too. Congressman Petronas, thank you for your posts
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on social media about this. Thank you for your fight,
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and thank you for your representation of the great state
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of Florida.
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Thank you so much, David. It's great to be with you,
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and go Noles.
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Go Noles. Coming up, we spent this year fighting over
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flock cameras that read your license plate. Now the United
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Nations is warning that governments could one day get inside
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something that's way more personal. Your actual brain. And a
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startup just raised $ 50 million for a brain-reading baseball cap.
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Chrissy Newton joins me next when we say, no way.
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Stick around.
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For all of our viewers out there asking where to
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you can't get anywhere else.
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This story is certainly an unexpected twist of the phrase,
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my body, my choice. Did you see this? The Secretary
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General of the United Nations has put out a formal
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report warning that government's ability to access, even manipulate, the
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human brain could one day threaten basic rights. You heard
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me right. Government's accessing your brain. presented to the General
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Assembly last week.
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Look.
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The Secretary General's report on the question of human rights
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in the Administration of Justice, A81351, examines the growing use
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of neurotechnology in justice systems and the human rights risk
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arising from its convergence.
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With artificial intelligence.
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It warns of risk to dignity, privacy, freedom of thought,
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fair trials rights, liberty and protection from ill-treatment, especially for
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marginalized groups. It urged prohibitions on coercive and abusive uses
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and strongest safe words, informed consent, scientific validation, oversight, accountability,
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and protection of neural data.
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The gist of it was she didn't want, I guess,
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people having their brains spied on by police. But get this.
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It describes the report. It describes police using brain scanning
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to test whether a suspect recognizes details of a crime
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or headsets that monitor people under supervision and something it
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calls coercive neuromodulation technology that, in the report's words, may
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alter or shape a person's thoughts. In India, police have
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used a so-called brain lie detector for about two decades.
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on what the New York Times calls scant science. Now, supposedly,
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the UN's own report says neurotechnology is not capable at
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present of reading minds. Supposedly, what it reportedly can do
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is infer emotions and internal reactions from your brain data.
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Where does that data come from? You know those wellness
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headbands and gaming headsets people are buying right now? Eight,
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neural rights groups looked at 30 companies selling these gadgets.
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Most put no real limits on what they do with
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your brain data. Did you hear me? And more than
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half let them share it with third parties. So when
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you put on a headset playing a video game, they're
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getting data from you and selling it. A startup just
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raised $ 50 million for a brain-reading baseball cap. Think about that.
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We spent most of this year arguing over who gets
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your flock cam data, and now we're talking about who
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has the right to look into your brain. Only three states, California, Colorado,
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and Montana, have laws on the books protecting neural data.
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I had the advancements of things like Neuralink, and we
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might be soon looking back with nostalgia on the day
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we're simply reading our license plates. Was our biggest privacy concern?
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Joining me now for No Way with Chrissy Newton is
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the host of the rebelliously curious podcast and a science
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writer for The Debrief. Chrissy Newton, welcome back to Apollo
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Prime Time. So now warrantless searches of people's brain data.
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No way. No way.
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This is where we're going. So, so way.
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Tell me about this, because this really bothers me. Now, look,
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in the United States, we have the Fifth Amendment, which
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protects you from illegal searches and seizures. The police can't
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simply just go and force you to give them your
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brain data, and they can't force you to consent to, like,
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a brain-reading scan if you're identifying or submitting yourself to questioning.
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But in the rest of the world, you can certainly
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do that, and a lot of people don't know that
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If you're arrested overseas for something, they can interrogate whoever
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you want and turn over that data to the United States.
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And plus, the marketing use for this data is something
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we need to be concerned about. So this is something
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that's really happening?
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Oh, yeah, it's happening. It's slowly happening. Let's just say that.
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But, you know, when the United Nations says something about this,
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we can look to it potentially being something that's going
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to happen.
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In the future.
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So it's a really.
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tough subject because as of now, BCI brain computer interfaces
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is in the healthcare space globally.
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Around the world.
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The only country in the world that has been able
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to put it in a consumer set, but still in
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healthcare and sell it within China, or sorry, is China,
842
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but within its own country, they can't sell globally right now.
843
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And so we see this infancy of BCI that's growing.
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And right now, yes, it's true. They can't read your mind,
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but it can influence your emotions. There was a scientist
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in 1960 named Jose Delgado who did an experiment on
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a bull where he put a BCI in the bull's
848
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brain and was able to control its emotions, if it
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would run forward, if it would charge.
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At the person.
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And so that really tells you, you know, that this
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is possible. You know, one thing that the CIA teaches
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CIA agents is that you can't control somebody, but you
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can control their emotions. And by controlling their emotions, you
855
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then ultimately can control their decisions. And so we've seen
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a lot of these conversations for years, we've seen inter
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programs mix, but Now we're coming to a real conversation
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that this can happen and it can become consumer products
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where it can be mandated into legislation.
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Yeah, it has to happen. It's just fascinating what this
861
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technology is doing. And definitely from an international perspective, legislation
862
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is certainly important. But it brings up the greater concern,
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and that's with privacy. I mean, if you're not using
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it for criminal matters, which, again, we have constitutional protections
865
00:48:31.989 --> 00:48:36.260
in the United States— that keeps governments from taking things
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involuntarily for you and using them in prosecutions. But this
867
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is something that's not considered, the data aspect of this.
868
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And when you're putting on VR hats or helmets or
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you're putting on game tech or whatever, AirPods? I don't
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even know. When do they have to disclose at one
871
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point the fact that they're collecting data? And they probably are,
872
00:48:59.030 --> 00:49:01.219
as you scroll when you download an app and you say, yeah, sure,
873
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.480
I consent to take my face and turn it into
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my best friend's face. This is awesome. And then they're
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taking that data and doing something with it. This is
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something people need to be made aware of, definitely, right?
877
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For sure, 100%.
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Right now, the neural data is so small, but it
879
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will grow and the data sets will grow. You know,
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I've been fortunate to speak with all different types of
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BCA companies from China to Germany, to Spain, all the
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way to the United States. So talking to a lot
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of these different CEOs, they are concerned. This is a
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conversation they're all having, but it was really interesting. I
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broke a story last October and a Morgan Stanley report
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was ceded to me in private and It wasn't public.
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And I reported on it and how, unfortunately, they were
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looking at the investment of what Neuralink was. And it
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was billions of dollars at this point in the BCI field.
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And so they were proposing that potentially if Elon Musk
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has some type of control over multiple different products from
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potentially driving cars with your brain, I know it's wild
893
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to think that, he will have a monopoly on that
894
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market and it will create potentially a narrow elite. And
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that will be for people, which again, the United Nations
896
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did say for people that are marginalized communities that won't
897
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have access to this type of technology. So this is
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where we're going. We have different law firms in New
899
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York are, you know, putting a red horn out right
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now and saying like, we need to look at this.
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We have the United Nations saying this. So we don't
902
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have policy. And right now, Chuck Schumer put something forward
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in his team, which is called mine act last September,
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where it was talking about privacy and neural data.
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So it has.
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Been brought up in front of Congress, but nothing has
907
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been done about it in Congress yet. So trust me,
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it will be, uh, it just isn't a full conversation,
909
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but it will be within government probably next year in
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the coming years.
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That is so fascinating, I think, to me and everybody watching.
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And yeah, we've talked about this in the past, too,
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those brain-computer interfaces. And in China, that we talked about, like,
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basically tech tourism, where you can go and enhance yourself
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because China is allowing it. And, you know, when you
916
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start building in AI or SI, and then you start
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bringing in all this other stuff, we're facing an incredibly
918
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interesting future. Now, again, with the SI and all these things,
919
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there's opportunities that they pose, but there's also risks. And so,
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This is another one of those areas where the regulation
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has to keep up with the technology. And thank you
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for writing about this and bringing it to our attention.
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I know a lot of people are going to be like,
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no way, but way.
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It is.
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And that's why we have to do something about it.
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You know, the question is, is what will humanity and
928
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what will being human look like in the future? So
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this is our chance now to say something about it
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and put our opinions in to be able to stop
931
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something or change it and not have it evolve into
932
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something that's going to hurt humanity.
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A lot of prayers are going to be said after
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this segment. Chrissy Newton, thank you so much for being here.
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I can't wait to talk to you again next week
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for No Way with Chrissy Newton.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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That is our show for tonight. Twelve days from now,
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you decide who runs the House, who runs the Senate,
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and whether the last two years of immigration enforcement gets undone.
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Akeem Jeffries already told you what he's going to do
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with the gavel. The rest is up to you, so vote.
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Bring a friend, preferably one who isn't wearing a brain-reading
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baseball cap. And as always, be sure to stay in
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touch with us on social media, David Pollak USA, or
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send us an email, davidpollakprimetime, oann.com. We'll see you tomorrow,
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same time, same place. Until then, stay classy, America.
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Good night.
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