Post Mortum

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REPUBLICANS TOOK A BEATING LAST NIGHT NO WAY TO SPIN
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IT I WISH I COULD SO TONIGHT HERE'S AN HONEST
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POST-MORTEM WHAT WENT RIGHT WHAT WENT WRONG AND WHERE WE
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GO FROM HERE LET'S START WITH WHAT WENT RIGHT BECAUSE
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THERE WERE REAL WINDS FLORIDA MY HOME STATE IT'S STILL
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RED SOLID RED BYRON DONALD'S IS THE NEXT GOVERNOR OF
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FLORIDA FIRST BLACK GOVERNOR IN THE STATE'S HISTORY BY THE
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WAY Ashley Moody held her Senate seat, and Florida voters
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passed the biggest property tax cut for homeowners with more
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than 60% of the vote. Donald thanked President Trump for
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being in his corner.
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The second call that I received tonight was from the
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President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
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Mr.
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President, I want you to hear from Florida that we
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are still red. But Mr. President, I also want to
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tell you thank you for your support and thank you
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for being.
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In my corner. Now, let's be fair.
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It wasn't an easy win for Donald's. Democrats made a
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strong push for Florida. They flipped Seminole County blue and
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picked off three of the four new House seats created
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when Republicans corrected the maps. In the fourth, near Orlando,
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the Democrat is ahead by about 1,500 votes, but Republicans
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won statewide anyway, and that speaks to the success of
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Florida last night.
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And there were wins elsewhere, too.
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Tommy Tuberville is the next governor of Alabama. Marsha Blackburn
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is the next governor of Tennessee. And Pete Ricketts held Nebraska.
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Now, what went wrong? And there is a long list.
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Susan Collins lost in Maine, but now I still think
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that's a win for Republicans. In Texas, Ken Paxton lost
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to James Tallarico. And Greg Abbott lost to Gina Hino-Josa,
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the first Democratic governor of Texas in more than 30 years.
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John James lost a governor's race in Michigan. We lost
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Senate seats in North Carolina, Ohio, Iowa, and Kansas. And
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in the House, on the current count, Republicans are on
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track to lose close to 50 seats. Not as bad
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as it could have been, though. Two Senate races are
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still too close to call in Mississippi.
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Yeah, Mississippi.
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Cindy Hyde-Smith trails by just 43 votes, with the affidavit
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and late mail-in ballots still to count.
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So there's hope there. We might pull that one out.
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In Alaska, and this one's very interesting, Dan Sullivan trails
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by about 600 votes. WITH ONLY THREE QUARTERS OF THE
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VOTE IN, AND ALASKA WON'T RUN ITS RANKED CHOICE COUNT
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UNTIL NOVEMBER 18th. IF REPUBLICANS HOLD BOTH, WE'LL END UP
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WITH 46 SENATE SEATS. IF WE LOSE BOTH, 44. EITHER WAY,
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WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT IT
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IS WHAT IT IS. AND BEFORE THE FAKE NEWS TELLS
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YOU THIS IS THE WORST LOSS IN HISTORY AND MAKES
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IT SEEM LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, THE SKY IS FALLING
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AND IT'S ALL TRUMP'S FAULT, REMEMBER, Bill Clinton lost 54
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House seats in 1994. Barack Obama lost 63 in 2010.
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So, yes, it does hurt.
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But part of this is historical because the president's party
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almost always loses in the midterm. And past Democrat presidents
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have lost bigger. Part of it is the party. And, yes,
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part of it is the president. We have to be
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honest there.
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Then there's turnout.
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More than 61 million Americans voted before Election Day. a
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midterm record, and Democrats banked far more of those ballots.
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Republicans' early voting lagged its own pace from four years ago.
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And according to public reporting, Republican Election Day turnout lagged
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2022 in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, although Florida did beat
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its 2024 numbers. And as far as early voting goes,
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in 2024, President Trump's campaign and the RNC pushed our voters.
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To bank their votes early and by mail. And we won.
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This year, the party didn't match it. IT'S NOT ON TRUMP,
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THAT'S ON THE GOP.
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THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT WE
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ALL KIND OF EXPECTED, THE SWING VOTERS SWUNG. ACCORDING TO
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FOX NEWS, A VOTER ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT REPUBLICANS WHO DID
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VOTE STUCK WITH REPUBLICANS BETTER THAN 9 TO 1, BUT
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INDEPENDENCE BROKE FOR DEMOCRATS BY MORE THAN 20 POINTS. HISPANIC
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VOTERS WENT BACK TO THE DEMOCRATS. THE COALITION THAT WON
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IN 2024 CAME APART AT THE SEAMS. And the swing
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voters sank the majorities. Now let's look at the issues. Immigration,
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voters went Republican nearly 10 to 1. That's the border
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Trump secured. And the voters noticed. But the number one issue, well,
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as I've been saying, it's the economy. And there we
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split nearly even. When you don't win the kitchen table,
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you don't win the majority. And many will say that
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the Iran war is to blame. And that might be true.
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J.D.
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Vance said it himself today.
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GAS PRICES WERE THE STORY LEADING UP THROUGH THE START
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OF MAIL-IN VOTING SEASON AND EARLY VOTING.
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THEY JUST STARTED TO GO DOWN BEFORE ELECTION DAY.
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AND I STILL THINK, THOUGH, THE PRESIDENT DID THE RIGHT
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THING WITH RESPECT TO IRAN. BUT HE DID PAY A
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POLITICAL PRICE FOR IT. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PUT THE
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COUNTRY BEFORE POLITICS. AND WHILE TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT IN IRAN MIGHT
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HAVE DROVE THE COALITION APART, TRUMP WENT ON THE BALLOT.
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AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THIS IS A REFERENDUM,
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IT'S NOT A REFERENDUM ON TRUMP.
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IT'S A REFERENDUM ON THE GOP AND THE SENATE.
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AFTER ALL, IT WAS THE SENATE ESTABLISHMENT THAT REFUSED TO
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END THE FILIBUSTER EVEN WITH THE PRESIDENT PUSHING AND THE
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SAVE AMERICA ACT STALLED. VOTERS SENT REPUBLICANS TO WASHINGTON TO FIGHT.
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AND TOO MANY OF THEM DIDN'T FIGHT. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.
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You can't take a mandate from the American people and
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not deliver on the promises. And you can't be an
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outsider who takes on the establishment if the establishment doesn't
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get taken down. In the end, all of the president's
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wins and all of his successes, and there's a lot
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of them, couldn't change the way people felt about.
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The way things were going. You know, they say facts
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don't care about your feelings. But here, the feelings... They
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don't care about the facts. And that's what happened. We lost.
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We lost big. We lost the coalition. We lost the argument.
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And we lost Congress.
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It's time to pause, reflect, regroup, and figure out a
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path forward because the fight for 28 and the fight
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for America, well, they're just getting started. Still ahead tonight,
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Democrats aren't offering an olive branch. They're threatening the switch.
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The Democrat in line to run House oversight told the
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administration to lawyer up. And Hakeem Jeffries says they haven't
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ruled out anything on impeachment.
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So what stands in their way?
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Well, the president's veto pen, then the race to lead
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this party after Trump is already heating up, and then
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one governor's stock just shot up overnight, and later voters
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under 30 went Democrat nearly three to one.
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Democrats are headed for control of both the House and
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the Senate.
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When the new Congress is seated in January.
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And we already talked about what happened that led to
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the loss of power there.
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But let's talk.
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About what they're going to do with that power. AND
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WHAT'S STANDING IN THEIR WAY? THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD US LAST
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NIGHT ROBERT GARCIA, THE DEMOCRAT IN LINE TO RUN THE
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HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, SENT THE ADMINISTRATION A TWO-WORD MESSAGE ON
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X SAYING, QUOTE, LAWYER UP.
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NOT LET'S FIND COMMON GROUND. LAWYER UP.
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ANOTHER HOUSE DEMOCRAT, SUMMER LEE, SAID SHE WANTS TO GO
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STRAIGHT TO THE TOP. DONALD TRUMP AND THEN EVERYBODY I'M
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GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
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WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO
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TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I'M
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GOING Impeach, investigate, indict, subpoenas for the president's family, his pardons,
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immigration enforcement. And in the Senate, the new Democrats aren't
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hiding the ball. Juliana Stratton, the senator-elect from Illinois, said
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it plainly, when Democrats take back the Senate, I want
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us to end the filibuster and get things done.
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Now.
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watch the money, because that's where the real fight's going
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to be. Democrats will control spending.
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So get this.
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They stuffed their agenda into must-pass funding bills. The president vetoes.
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The government shuts down. The media blames Trump for every
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closed office and every missed paycheck. This is a party
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that has already shut down the government three times in Congress.
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Mike Johnson saw it coming. And here's the speaker in
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Shreveport last night.
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Now, look, I'm not going to exaggerate when I tell
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you that there is not a single American, not a
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single American family anywhere that's going to be made better
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off if Democrats turn Congress into a circus. And I'm
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afraid that is what some of them want to do, okay?
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If they make the next two years about retribution and
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lawfare and partisan games, every American will suffer by that.
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And I'll tell you what we will do.
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We will put a firewall of.
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House Republicans standing in their way to ensure that doesn't happen.
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But come January, the firewall isn't in the House.
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It's at the other side of Pennsylvania Avenue. Trump's pen
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will save us. THE PRESIDENT ALREADY PUT IT ON A
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HAT VETO. LAST NIGHT HE SAID THEY'LL SEND OVER THINGS
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THAT ARE INSANE AND I'LL VETO THEM. And after a
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couple of months of that, he says Democrats will come
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asking how to get something done.
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And think about whose pen that is.
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According to House Oversight Republicans, Joe Biden's aides used the
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auto pen on pardons without confirmed approval from the president.
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Biden's pen was in the hands of his staff. Trump's pen,
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it is in his own hand. To override a veto,
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Democrats needed two-thirds of both chambers. That's 67 senators, and
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with a full House and 290 members on the current count,
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Democrats would need about a dozen Republican senators and close
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to 30 House Republicans to cross over. So the veto
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holds as long as Republicans hold. The question is, will they?
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Utah Senator John Curtis said last night, it's time to
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put petty partisan politics aside and come together. Sounds nice,
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but if you can't meet halfway with a party that
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just told the president to lawyer up, will Trump work
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with them? He says he will. He says he's already
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talked to some Democrat friends, but would.
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Democrats work with Trump?
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Jeffrey's first priorities are rolling back the president's tariffs, reversing
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his Medicaid cuts, and ending the Iran war.
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That's not a.
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Hand across the aisle. It's a demolition list. Make no mistake,
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the next two years will be decided by who holds
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the gavel. And they'll be decided by whether the president's
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pen holds as well and whether Republicans stand behind it.
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So when Democrats come with a switch, will Republicans stand
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with the president or hand everything over to them? Joining
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me now is George Papadopoulos, foreign policy advisor to President
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Trump's 2016 campaign, the author of Deep State Target. George
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understands what happens when Democrats get power, probably better than anybody.
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Welcome back, David Pollak, Prime Time. George, look, we lost.
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I've already talked about why we lost, what we need
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to do next. But I think Americans need to understand
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what's coming for them.
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And it's not bipartisanship, is it?
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Hi, David.
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No, it's really not.
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And what woke 2.0 is starting to look like is
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a more crazy version of woke 1.0. The Democrats clearly
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did not learn anything. the lessons of their failed leadership
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era when they controlled Congress during the first Trump administration.
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And basically, I believe that they're going to attempt to
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repeat the same exact mistakes that led to their abject
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failures the first time around. Look, this past election wasn't
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some sort of embrace of the Democrat Party. It was
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really an indictment on the perception that the GOP abandoned
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America first policies and principles. And now that the Democrats
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did gain control, they ultimately did not gain the numbers
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to have a super majority or to have the 60
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Senate seats required to basically overcome the filibuster or to
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circumvent the president's veto. So I don't think that the
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Democrats are going to have the numbers to basically have
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the foundational structural overhauls to the legislative process or the
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constitution that they would have liked, for example, like packing
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the Supreme Court or adding new states in Washington, DC
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or Puerto Rico. So they're basically going to resort to
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weaponizing Congress once again with various investigations, subpoenas, wasting taxpayer dollars,
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and ultimately showing the American people once again that when
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the Democrats are in power, they do not put the
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American people's priorities at the forefront, but TDS and bizarre
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wokeness will always overcome the American worker.
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Yeah, and honestly, I think.
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I know a lot of people are still absorbing what
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they saw last night and what it's going to mean.
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And I know Trump's being optimistic. I'll work with the Democrats.
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And I know Republicans always have this tendency to say, OK,
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where can we find common ground?
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That's what Republicans do.
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That's what makes so many conservatives angry, is that Republicans
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tend to try to negotiate with Democrats when Democrats haven't
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shown even an ounce of wanting to work with Republicans.
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I don't even think there's even been a honeymoon period.
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I mean, it was before elections were even certified that
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they were telling Trump to lawyer up. They're talking about impeachment.
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They're talking about everything they're planning on doing. This isn't
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going to be a collaborative government. This is going to
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be a very antagonistic and dangerous government.
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And I think in two short years, one of two
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things is going to happen, George.
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I think either one, the country goes into pure chaos
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and the media continues to blame Trump for it, and
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they try to campaign off of that in 28, or
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America rejects the Democrats once again after handing them back power,
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remembering what they did with it, and then whichever campaign
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or candidate can come through and promise wholesale sort of
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change at the top will end up winning in 28,
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I think probably the latter.
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You know, how do you think this goes?
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Do you think people will reject all of this weaponization
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from Democrats, or do you think they'll even.
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Hear about it?
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David, the Democrats have a sub-30% favorability rating. This was
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not an embrace of their movements, their ideology, or their candidates.
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In fact, I would argue that the Democrat candidates that
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we saw this past election were some of the worst
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candidates that the Democrats have thrown into an election cycle
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in the last 20 years. from extremists to DSA candidates
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to outright socialists. This is not the mainstream Democrat party
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that many expected would emerge from the first go-around with
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the failed woke policies, the socialist policies, and the outright
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weaponization effort. They've simply doubled down on their failed policies.
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And I ultimately believe that because they ran on this
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populist messaging and this attempt to basically shake up the
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system in their own way, that as long as the
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Republicans identify, embrace, and support a new wave of America
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First candidates from both urban settings and rural settings, folks
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that are telegenic, smart, embrace the America First ideology, its principles,
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put the American people first, will ultimately show that we
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do provide an alternative to the Democrats who have no
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real policy prescriptions to address the American people's issues, from
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the economy to social issues to foreign policy issues. And
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history will show that this was simply a two-year pushback
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against what the American people believed was the abandonment of
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the America First and the populist economic policies of the
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Trump administration that have been so successful in the past.
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So that's what's going to end up happening here, David.
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But we do need to coalesce around the new generation
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of the GOP and learn from these very serious mistakes
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so that history does not repeat itself moving forward.
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Yeah, and we're going to have to learn about communication.
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I think it comes down to communication, and I talked
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about it. I'm in my opening segment about the fact that,
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you know, they say facts don't care about your feelings.
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But in this election, I kept saying it. It came
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down to feelings not caring about the facts, the economy
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being strong and actually Trump's policies working. People weren't feeling it.
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And I think we weren't able to articulate a winning message,
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and that's something we need to fix going forward, because
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Democrats are not going to make anything more affordable. Shutting
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down the government and impeaching the president makes your 401
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go down, makes your gas prices go up, and all
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the Democrat policies are going to make everybody's prices go up.
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So I think people will realize very quickly that they
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don't have a solution, which I think goes in our
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favor in 28. If we can figure out in the
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next two years, actually, in less than that, a winning message, then, George,
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I know you and I will be talking about that
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a lot going forward. Thanks for being here, as always,
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and look forward to having you on again real soon,
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my friend.
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Appreciate it, David. Thank you. Thank you.
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Coming up, some Republicans are already blaming Trump for last night, seriously.
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And if they tear him down, will they tear down
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Vice President J.D.
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Vance with him?
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So who leads this party into 2028?
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Vance? Rubio? DeSantis?
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Or the establishment crowd that spent years fighting the American
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First agenda?
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We break all of that down right after this.
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PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ASKING WHO LEADS THIS PARTY AFTER DONALD TRUMP.
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SERIOUSLY.
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THAT FIGHT STARTED LAST NIGHT BEFORE THE VOTES WERE EVEN
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COUNTED AND THE FIRST PUNCHES AREN'T COMING FROM DEMOCRATS.
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REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY BLAMING TRUMP. SHOCKING, I KNOW.
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A SENIOR SENATE REPUBLICAN TOLD REPORTERS IT'S A BLOOD BATH.
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TRUMP DID THIS.
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Give them a few weeks, they'll pile on with the
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media to get what they've always wanted, a Republican Party
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free of Donald Trump. But understand what that really means.
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They tear down Trump, they tear down J.D. Vance with him.
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So let me walk you through the paths in front
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of us. START WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT, J.D. VANCE IS
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STILL THE FRONTRUNNER FOR 2028. HE LEADS THE PREDICTION MARKETS
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TO BE NOMINEE, THOUGH HE DID SLIP ABOUT FIVE POINTS OVERNIGHT.
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BUT WHATEVER BLAME LANDS ON THIS WHITE HOUSE IN THE
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NEXT TWO YEARS, THE MEDIA WILL HANG IT ON VANCE
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IN 2028. TAKE OUT FROM UNDER IT, YOU'D HAVE TO
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BREAK WITH TRUMP, AND THE MOMENT HE DOES THAT, HE
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RISKS THE MAGA BASE THAT MADE HIM.
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THAT'S A NARROW ROAD, BUT J.D. VANCE HAS WALKED NARROW
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ROADS BEFORE. Then there's Marco Rubio.
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He's been one of the most successful secretaries of state
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in modern memory. The cartels designated as terrorist organizations. Nicolas
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Maduro removed from power in a matter of hours and
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brought to justice. USAID's old model shut down and folded
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into the Senate Department.
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That's right, thanks to Trump.
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And through all of it, Rubio has kept himself clean
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in the media. If anyone in this administration can survive
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what's coming, it's probably Marco Rubio. Now, Ron DeSantis, he's
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the only outsider left, and he's not in the administration,
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and he's term-limited, so he leaves the governor's office in January,
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replaced by Byron Donalds.
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He's free to run. He made Florida the model for
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conservative governing.
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And last night, while so much of the map went blue,
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Florida stayed a red beacon, and the markets noticed on Calchi,
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DeSantis jumped from about 4% to 19% overnight to win
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a nomination. And on Polymarket, he went from about 4%
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to 16%. Then there's the path I worry about the most.
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The establishment strikes back. The Bushes, Mike Pence, Chris Christie,
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Nikki Haley, Mitt Romney, John Thune. The polished crowd that
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looks presidential on the debate stage. In my view, that's
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nothing more than the Uniparty, the same go-along, get-along politics
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that gave rise to the modern Democrat Party to begin with.
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THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SPENT YEARS FIGHTING THE AMERICA
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FIRST AGENDA INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR IT, AND THEY'RE NOT
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GOING ANYWHERE. SO DON'T BE SURPRISED IF THEY TRY TO
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COALESCE AROUND DESANTIS OR EVEN RUBIO AND SELL IT AS
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A MAGA ESTABLISHMENT COALITION. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
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SO WHAT DECIDES IT?
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WELL, TRUMP DOES.
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IF THE PRESIDENT CAN FIND A WAY TO WIN WITH
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DEMOCRATS IN THE ROOM IF GAS PRICES COME DOWN AND
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THE WAR ENDS ON HIS TERMS, That might say Vance,
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and it strengthens Rubio. But if the next two years
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are nothing but gridlock and the media sells it as
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Trump's defiance, they'll try to take down Vance with him.
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And that's the opening DeSantis is waiting for, certainly. So
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here's what it comes down to. The future of this
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party is not the establishment.
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IT'S A FIGHTER WHO.
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WILL CARRY THE AMERICA FIRST AGENDA FORWARD. VANCE, RUBIO, DESANTIS,
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WHOEVER IT IS, THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ONE THING. TRUMP
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DIDN'T JUST WIN THE ELECTIONS.
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HE BUILT THIS MOVEMENT. SO REPUBLICANS BUILD ON WHAT TRUMP STARTED.
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Or give the party back to the people we fought
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so hard to take it from. Joining me now is
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Tommy Sotomayor, conservative commentator and host of the podcast, Your World,
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My View. Tommy, welcome to David Pollak Prime Time. Look,
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we know what happened yesterday. We all saw it. We're
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all still dealing with it.
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We're processing. I get it.
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I'm not ready to throw Trump out, you know, with
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the bathwater and say this is all on him. I'm
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putting us on the GOP. But either way, we got
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to figure out how to win it back in 28.
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What do you think the future of this party is,
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my friend?
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That's a hard one. And the problem is we haven't
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put together a secession plan.
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We never did. It was Trump and it became the
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party of Trump.
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And many people smarter than I am started to tell
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people we cannot be the party of Trump. But the
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party of Trump was feeding everybody. So what happens when
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Trump's name falls? What happens when you're a band, but
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everybody knows the lead of the band and no one
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cares about anyone else?
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That's what happened. And that's what this midterm showed.
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It showed that, well, no one cared about the band
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because the leader we no longer like. And this is
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something we should have seen coming after he lost in 2020.
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That should have been something that we were ready for.
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But the surge that came back or the perceived surge,
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was against a guy who was really old, senile, an
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economy that was thanking, and then a person that he
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put in in place for him that nobody liked. That
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was a perfect storm for Donald Trump to win, but
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we looked at it as, oh, that shows how powerful
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he is. And then as we talked about in Texas,
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once you start having losses and you have people making
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excuses for the losses instead of pointing out the losses,
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this is what you have left. It was a power
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vacuum and a Democrat step right in.
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Yeah, and— And we did see this in 2020, and
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it's such a great observation because, I mean, it didn't
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take but, what, 30 seconds for Trump to lose in
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2020 before everybody said, see, it's time to move on.
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We've been waiting for this moment. We're moving on. And
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then Trump came back.
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I mean, it was Governor DeSantis didn't even show up
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in Miami when Vivek did and was like, these charges
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against President Trump are ridiculous. They couldn't wait to find
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somebody else to put up in Washington. And you have
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to think of who the they are.
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I mean, is it the Uniparty? Is it the establishment?
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Is it conservatives? Who is this party?
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Now, Trump made it very clear when he did his
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barnstorming tour in lines, around the buildings, and I believe
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it would have been a much worse outcome yesterday if
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Trump didn't do that barnstorming tour.
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I think this party still belongs to Trump.
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I think the people who very much wish it wasn't
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and it didn't, I think they certainly would like to
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see somebody else. But the media will destroy Trump.
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And the media will take down J.D. Vance with him.
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When the Democrats start their shutdowns and start their impeachments,
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Trump is going to have a really hard time getting
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on the other side of the narrative. And I don't
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know if J.D. Vance can survive it without putting distance
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between him and Trump. And if he does that, the
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MAGA base is going to shut down on him, and
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we can't lose the MAGA base.
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What has to happen, Tommy— and I'm.
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Sure you think this, too— We have to rebuild this coalition,
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and that's the swing voters, the NPAs, the Republicans that
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are willing to vote Democrat, the conservatives, the establishment.
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Everybody has to come together.
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And there's only a handful of people in this country
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that can articulate a message.
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You know, it could be J.D. Vance, but, like, I
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love J.D.
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Vance.
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I just think he's going to get destroyed in the
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next two years with this media coverage. Marco Rubio might
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stay clean, and if he does, he might be the guy.
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He's Hispanic.
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He can speak Spanish. He's done a great job as
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Secretary of State. The establishment likes him. He's been aggressive
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when he needs to be domestically and foreign.
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He works well with the press. Is Marco Rubio our answer?
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If I were to give advice, which no one should
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probably listen to mine, avoid being a sycophant.
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Avoid being a Trump sycophant.
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Do not come across as a guy or girl who
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just rubber stamps Trump. Look like you have some pushback
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against some things that you don't agree with or some
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things that obviously you wouldn't agree with that.
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We say, hey, that's a loss. We're going to call
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it a loss.
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You have to make some inroads to the MAGA base,
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but my question is, is the MAGA base with what
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we just saw yesterday, is it a real thing? And
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if they are a real thing, did they just sit
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at home? We have to ask that. We have Keisha,
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I'm here in Atlanta. We have Keisha Lance Bottom. I
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remember believing there was no chance she could win the
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governorship here.
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No chance. And she won. And she won pretty big.
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And something like that makes me say, well, where was
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this MAGA base? Because Jackson came across as the Trump candidate.
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He never shot away from it. So where was the
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MAGA base when they needed his votes? Something's wrong here.
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And I think maybe that MAGA base is not, it
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may be louder. It's like what I have to deal with.
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There's a bunch of ratchet people who are very loud
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and they speak a lot. So we think there may
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be more ratchet people than, than they're not because the
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regular people don't speak as much. I think the MAGA
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base was a bunch of loud people who then, well,
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what happened when it was time to show? So if
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you are going to do like, I think you said something,
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And I think you'd be in Texas and you'd be
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a very good press secretary. You need to put in
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your resume for it because you said they need someone
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to articulate the wins. You're one of the few people
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who I heard that said, hey, there are wins here
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and they are doing a poor job of articulating them,
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which allows the people with the voices against this this
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presidency to be louder. And that's what won. So the
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only way to get back is to do exactly what
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you said. Is Rubio a person who can do that?
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I think if he starts stepping out of the Trump
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shadow and start becoming his own man. But if, again,
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he goes back to being a sycophant and saying, hey,
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I just whatever he says, I agree with. Nobody's going
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to want someone who agrees with the lame duck.
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Well, that's a good point.
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You know, and I think the other thing is and
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you've pointed out in the governor's race in Georgia. is
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the Trump base, the MAGA base, it's not transferable. And
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this is something the GOP has not understood since 2016.
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Acting like President Trump, pretending you're a version of President Trump,
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trying to emulate President Trump, at least the version the
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media created about him, that doesn't attract the MAGA base.
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People don't understand President Trump or why people vote for
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President Trump.
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That's the biggest fallacy.
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They assume that Trump voters were just a bunch of
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YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY THINK OF US, DEPLORABLE, SITTING AROUND LIKE, YEAH,
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I HATE.
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EVERYBODY, I LOVE TRUMP. IT'S WAY MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN THAT.
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AND THAT VOTE IS NOT TRANSFERRABLE TO JUST SOME RICH
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WHITE GUY IN GEORGIA JUST BECAUSE TRUMP GIVES HIM THE NOMINATION.
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IT'S NOT TRANSFERRABLE TO SOME RICH WHITE LADY WHO SHARES
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THE SAME NAME AS A LATE SENATOR IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
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MAGA ISN'T TRANSFERRABLE. MAGA, IT'S A MOVEMENT, IT'S A FEELING.
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AND THAT FEELING, I WILL ADMIT, They didn't show up
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for the GOP yesterday because Trump wasn't on the ballot.
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His policies might have been, but Trump wasn't. And MAGA
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isn't transferable. So we have to create a movement like MAGA.
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It's not going to be MAGA. And whichever candidate can
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create a movement like that, and God forbid it's somebody
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like James Fishback who builds a movement that's anti-Semitic and racist.
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We can't have that. But we need to go to
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the black community. We need to go to the Hispanic community.
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We need to go to the communities that are underserved.
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Where Trump went in. Trump didn't ask.
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He didn't go into certain neighborhoods in Atlanta on his
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way to getting booked in Fulton County, telling people they
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had to show up. They showed up because you're like,
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you know what, Trump, you're a billionaire, but you're one
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of us. That's who the next candidate has to be.
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They have to be somebody that can appeal to people,
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these boring, rich, show up, not shake hands with people,
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doesn't do television, doesn't interact with people.
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That can't win. It won't win.
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We have to find somebody with some spirit, and we
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have to build this coalition around that.
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The MAGA base is not transferable, Tommy.
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I'm going to say something that is probably problematic. I
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don't mean to knock another network or another group of people.
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Donald Trump was able to win because he had the
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tech bros. He had the Manosphere guys. He had all
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of these guys who felt like they were disenfranchised. Well,
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you don't gain a group of people who literally left
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a group of people because they felt disenfranchised. If I
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mess around with someone's wife and she leaves him for
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me because I told her how horrible he treated her,
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if I treat her bad, too, she's going to recognize
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this looks the same. And now she's going to hate me, too,
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because I caused her to leave her original spouse. That's
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what you did with a lot of these tech bros,
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with a lot of these Manosphere guys. And I can
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say it personally, again, to knock the network, but not
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knock the network. Before the elections, Fox had me and
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every other black guy that they could think of throwing
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them on Fox.
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After the election, they never called any of us back.
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Exactly.
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They never said, let's have them back on this segment.
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Let's put them on this segment. Almost every one of
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these conservative places, and right now it's going to be
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a bunch of black people telling me right now.
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See, told you those whites were just going to use you. Well,
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that's what a lot of people felt.
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The inroads you made with blacks during the last election
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in 2024, you literally threw it in their faces and said.
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Go back on, boy.
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We don't need you anymore. Because I would even reach
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out to them and say, hey, you know, I haven't
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heard from y'all in a while. Oh, we'll get back
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00:34:22.849 --> 00:34:26.030
to you. Jesse wants you back on the show. Never
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heard from him again. And almost every person they put
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on there, they never showed up again.
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You don't think those people got long memories?
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You don't think those people got voices when they're talking
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on their platforms and saying this is how they treated me?
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00:34:38.579 --> 00:34:40.570
And then you hear others say they did the same
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thing to me. They did the same thing to me.
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So you don't make inroads by getting with a woman
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and then being able to bed her that night and
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then never calling her again until you need it again
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00:34:50.329 --> 00:34:52.090
and wonder why she don't want to pick up her phone.
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00:34:52.329 --> 00:34:55.250
And this midterm election was a whole lot of people
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not picking up their phone when you called and needed them.
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That's I agree with you completely. And that's where the
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coalition fell apart.
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And, you know, you and I have been on debate
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00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:04.369
stages and we've heard everybody complain about all the things
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they didn't get for Christmas and they're going to punish
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00:35:06.090 --> 00:35:08.809
President Trump and press Republicans for it. But I think
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00:35:08.849 --> 00:35:10.940
it goes way deeper than that. And that goes, like
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I said, the transferable mega base. I think a lot
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00:35:13.389 --> 00:35:16.050
of people were taken for granted. I think a lot
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of these Republicans.
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Trump didn't do it. This isn't on Trump. He held
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the rallies.
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The GOP did not go in any of these communities.
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They ignored these communities. Instead, they spent a billion dollars
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on mailers and said, oh, they'll show up. That's not
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how this works. That's why we lose every time Trump's
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not at the top of the ticket. Tommy, you better
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00:35:33.849 --> 00:35:37.190
come on often because I'll keep calling you win or lose.
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00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:39.050
You better keep coming on because we're going to have
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a lot to talk about the next couple of years,
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my friend.
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I appreciate you being here.
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Thank you for having me. And again, put that resume
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in for press secretary.
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If more people had your passion going into this, we
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wouldn't have failed.
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As miserably as we did.
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I'm going to put you as my reference, okay?
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Got it. All right.
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Take care, my friend. Coming up, young voters went Democrat
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nearly three to one.
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And look at who they elected. A Medicare for all
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Democrat in Michigan. Tim Walz's right hand in Minnesota. And
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the left's hate isn't staying rhetoric. We look at how
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the rhetoric has turned into violence. And later, the latest
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on Sunday's deadly crash in Palm Beach.
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New details. Stay with us.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP LAST NIGHT TO VOTE.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN THE MONTHS BEFORE
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ELECTION NIGHT. Young voters in the exit polls, voters under 30,
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went Democrat.
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By nearly three to one.
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Young women, 77 to 21. Young Hispanic voters, 78 to 19.
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Look who they elected.
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Michigan, Abdul Mohammed El-Said, a Bernie Sanders-backed Medicare for All
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candidate who says the money we spend to subsidize apartheid
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in the West Bank should be spent in Detroit instead.
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In Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan, Tim Waltz's right hand for eight years,
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who once shared a post calling Mount Rushmore a symbol
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of white supremacy.
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That's a new left. Michelle Myers, a former.
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Miss United States and a Trump administration alum at Homeland Security,
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greeted voters at the polls this past week with RSPN.
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AND SHE SHARED ONE CONVERSATION WITH ME.
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SHE TOLD A.
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YOUNG DEMOCRAT SHE WANTS TO PROTECT LITTLE GIRLS IN THE
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BATHROOM FROM MALE PREDATORS.
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THAT SEEMS REASONABLE, RIGHT? WELL, THE ANSWER, IT'S JUST A.
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Then she shrugged and said she respected Michelle's hustle. Michelle's
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take was that these young leftists think hateful rhetoric is
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a threat.
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To their lives.
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And while Republicans understand that rape, murder and molestation are
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the real threats. And it doesn't say it doesn't just
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stay rhetoric, by the way, guys. On Sunday at the
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University of Michigan, you probably have seen this, police say
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they watched an El-Sayed-supporting student, a Chinese student, by the way,
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parents fled communist China. She shoved a Jewish student on
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the ground, said she wanted to kill her. Prosecutors have
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authorized assault charges.
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Check it out. Am I wrong?
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Am I wrong?
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If she walked around like this in Iran, what would
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happen to her?
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Oh, oh, get off.
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Get off.
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Of her.
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Don't punch her.
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All that girl did was stand there and say, you
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wouldn't be able to say that in Iran, and she
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got attacked for it. Now, Charlie Kirk was taken from
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us on a college campus. Prosecutors say the man charged
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with his murder texted, I have enough of his hatred.
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And it's not just one campus, by the way. Look overseas.
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In France, protests turned into riots and masked mobs set
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a 19th century city.
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Hall in Le Manger on fire.
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France's own prime minister blamed what he called small far-left
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and ultra-left groups. In Spain, a conservative commentator they compare
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to Charlie Kirk was set to speak in Bilbao. Thousands
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of self-described anti-fascists showed up and acted like fascists. The
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event got canceled, and radicals torched cars and police motorcycles
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and threw rocks at a police station.
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Hmm. AND IT'S HERE, TOO.
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IN ATLANTA, FEDERAL PROSECUTORS SAY A MAN THREW A MALTOP
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COCKTAIL AT THE ICE BUILDING IN THE BRONX.
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PROTESTERS THREW WATER BOTTLES AT POLICE.
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ONE WEEK AGO, AGITATORS SHUT DOWN THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE, CHANTING NYPD, KKK, ICE.
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THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
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AND YESTERDAY AT A POLLING PLACE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, A
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70-YEAR-OLD MAN SLAPPED AN 18-YEAR-OLD TURNING POINT VOLUNTEER ACROSS THE FACE.
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POLICE HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH ASSAULT. THEY CALL US THE
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HATEFUL ONES, RIGHT? THEY SAY IT'S BOTH SIDES. That's the danger.
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Those young voters are the future of the Democrat Party.
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That's who's showing up to vote. And they're being taught
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that the word hate is more dangerous than the people
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who act on it. Joining me now is Michelle Myers,
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former Miss United States, a Trump administration alum at the
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Department of Homeland Security and a former communications director on
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Capitol Hill.
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Michelle, welcome.
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We're up against programmed, indoctrinated automatons. who have no interest
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in actually understanding what it is that they're so upset about.
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That's hard to beat.
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It's hard to beat people that will show up to
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the polls, gather their friends around, and advocate for something
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passionately that they don't even care to take the time
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to understand. They're just that angry. So our answer to
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them isn't gonna be reasoning with them.
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That's never gonna work. Charlie tried that, and look what
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they did to him.
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I think we're just gonna have to motivate our young
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people people who can think for themselves, who are not automatons.
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We have to motivate them to show up. And that's
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where Turning Point, I think, can really fill the gap.
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I mean, you.
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Saw a lot of Trump supporters, a lot of Republicans,
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a lot of conservatives on the ground as well.
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What was the positive message you were hearing from them,
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even though the result wasn't what we wanted?
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I think the positive message from the Trump supporters was
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safety was a huge factor. I mean, if you look
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at that, that is a promise from the president that
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he absolutely fulfilled. I mean, if you look at our country,
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the murder rate fell 18.1%, David, the absolute lowest ever recorded.
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But that's not something I think people really think about
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every day. They see prices, they see you know, gas prices.
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But they're not actually thinking about that. I mean, the
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actual reduction in crime is massive. I mean, 18.1%. Think
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about how many people were saved because of the president.
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And these kids on these campuses, they can't really wrap
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their minds around that. I mean, you know, I think
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a big thing about these midterms was, you know, talking
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about communism and socialism. And I think a lot of
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these young people really don't understand the threat of communism
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and socialism. I mean, if you look at the just,
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you know, human toll of life, you know, the Soviet
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Union from 1917 through 1991, up to 61 million people killed.
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If you look at communist China under.
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Mao up to 65 million people killed, you know? And
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so I think that was kind of a problem in these.
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Midterms.
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I don't think people quite understand the threat of socialism
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and communism. You know, they're seeing prices there, you know,
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maybe not feeling as confident in their jobs, economy, But
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if you look at the threat, that is something that
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I don't think they could quite understand, unfortunately.
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Well, they're going to find out one way or the other. And,
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you know, we'll be there to offer them a better solution. Michelle,
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thank you so much for being here. Great work out
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in the field. And thanks for bringing us this story.
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Thank you so much, David.
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Thank you.
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Coming up, nine people died Sunday in a Learjet crash
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in Palm Beach County, and investigators found part of its
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tail miles from the crater. Did that cause the dive,
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or did the dive tear it off? Where the investigation
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stands right after this.
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Nine people were killed Sunday when a private jet fell
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out of the sky in Palm Beach County, Florida. The
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election swallowed the news, but I want to catch you
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up on where the investigation stands.
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A lot of interest in this still. The Learjet 60,
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it took off from Austin, Texas, bound.
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For the Bahamas, up around 35,000 feet, the crew reported
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ice and moderate turbulence and asked to climb.
834
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Seconds later came the mayday.
835
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The jet fell from about 35,000 feet to under 9,000
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in a little over a minute and hit the ground
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nose first near Military.
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Trail, leaving a crater. Nobody aboard survived.
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Now, here's NTSB board member Tom Chapman on what investigators found.
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Yesterday, the majority of the aircraft's left elevator crashed was
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located in three pieces within a range about 1.3 to 3.8
842
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miles away from the accident site. Those items are being
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retained for analysis. For those not as familiar with aircraft components,
844
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the elevator is a control surface located on the tail,
845
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which controls the up and down pitch of the aircraft.
846
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So that part of the tail came off in the air.
847
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What investigators don't know yet is whether it caused the
848
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dive or whether the dive tore it off.
849
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That's what I think happened. Weather is a key focus.
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Crews are pumping water out of the crater looking for
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the cockpit voice recorder. The co-pilot was a young woman
852
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from Boca Raton who earned her pilot's license at 17.
853
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Hers is the voice on those final radio calls. And
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she kept talking to air traffic control right to the end.
855
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So remember this.
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The NTSB says a preliminary report comes in about a month.
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And the final cause could take more than a year.
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00:46:59.030 --> 00:47:01.530
The Internet solved it in about an hour, they think.
859
00:47:02.829 --> 00:47:05.449
I know which one I'd bet on, the official report.
860
00:47:05.489 --> 00:47:08.530
Joining me now is Buzz Patterson, retired Air Force lieutenant colonel,
861
00:47:08.550 --> 00:47:13.190
a 20-year Air Force pilot, and the military aide who
862
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carried the nuclear football for President Clinton.
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Buzz, that's quite a resume. Welcome back. David Pollak, Prime Time.
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You know a lot about flying, a lot about airplanes.
865
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And by the way, every time I fly, I always
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look at your post because you tell me which airplanes
867
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and airlines to fly and which ones not to. So
868
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I encourage everybody to check out your social media on that.
869
00:47:29.670 --> 00:47:32.570
But this Learjet story, you know, it's getting buried in
870
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the news, but.
871
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Wow.
872
00:47:34.269 --> 00:47:34.989
What a story.
873
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A plane hitting probably 700 miles an hour, nose down
874
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into the ground. Everybody's blaming the female because that's whose
875
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voice is on. You hear the pilot praying that should
876
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be trying to take control of the situation. Maybe he
877
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couldn't and he knew it. What's your take about what happened?
878
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Yeah, I think that the crew screwed up, quite frankly.
879
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You know, the pilot in command for whether you're military,
880
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and I also flew for Delta for 15 years as
881
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a commercial pilot. The pilot in command of an airplane
882
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.389
is ultimately responsible for everything that goes on with that airplane.
883
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And if they were concerned about the weather, I've never
884
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flown a Lyric, David, so I can't talk to their
885
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weather radar or whatever. But when you're flying an airplane
886
00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:24.800
with passengers, you basically have to depend on your weather
887
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radar and ATC to tell you what's coming up in
888
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front of you. because we don't have a lot of
889
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visibility on that in the air. That being said, I
890
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thought the pilot in command, they might have had get-home-itis.
891
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They might have been trying to get to their destination.
892
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And I think that they, you know, in my 35
893
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years of flying, David, I have never flown through a thunderstorm.
894
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I have never flown through severe icing. I've flown through
895
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severe turbulence because it was, clear air turbulence and we
896
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couldn't see it. So this stuff happens. You've got to
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avoid the weather at all costs.
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I mean, mother.
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Nature in the flying aviation is very fickle. And if
900
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you push her, she's going to push back. And I
901
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think that's what happened to these poor folks. And I
902
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know that the co-pilot was taught If she's on the radio,
903
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she's not flying. That's how it works. So the captain's
904
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flying and the co-pilot's doing the radios. That's typically how
905
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it works. And so I thought she handled it about
906
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as well as she could. honestly, but I do think
907
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that they made a mistake trying to push that weather.
908
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And I have learned long time ago, David, you just
909
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don't do that. Especially if you have passengers on board,
910
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unless you're going into combat, if you're going to combat,
911
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all the rules are off. But if you've got passengers
912
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and you're trying to fly from point A to point B,
913
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you don't push the weather.
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Yeah.
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And unfortunately, it seems what happened here, they shouldn't have
916
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flown through it. But more so than that, you know,
917
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there was a situation and I'm not a pilot. I
918
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just read about what could have happened with these Lear jets.
919
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And it's called a mock. What do they call it?
920
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A mock. Mock tuck.
921
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Yeah, mock tuck with these Learjets because of the way
922
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that once you get to a certain speed, you can't
923
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even control the airplane. And to get out of the
924
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mock tuck, you're supposed to put the landing gear down.
925
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You're supposed to create drag.
926
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You're supposed to slow down as much as you can
927
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before trying to pull out of the mock tuck. And
928
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it appears here probably that vertical stabilizer came off in
929
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the attempt. And then I think once the vertical stabilizer
930
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came off, I'm sure the pilot at that point knew
931
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there was no recovering the aircraft.
932
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And maybe that's why he went to prayer.
933
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But it never should have been in that situation, and
934
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I think that's what you've articulated here.
935
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Buzz, it's a sad situation. It is.
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Praying for the families, David. Praying for the passengers. I mean,
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that was a young family, and they were going on vacation.
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I mean, the whole thing is tragic. But the bottom
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line here is, yeah, they did exceed Mokhtar. They achieved Mokhtar,
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and they made a couple mistakes there. When you're in
941
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icing and moderate turbulence, you don't climb.
942
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You go down.
943
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It's warmer down than it is going up. And I
944
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think that's what got him in trouble, too.
945
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It's a sad situation, Buzz. Thank you so much for
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sharing your experience on this. Look forward to having you
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00:51:20.250 --> 00:51:20.989
on again real soon, my friend.
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Yes, sir.
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Anytime.
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Thank you.
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Well, that's our show for tonight.
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Tune in tomorrow where we're going to break down what
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we need to do to win 2028 a little bit further.
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I have former Congresswoman Mayra Flores coming on to talk
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about getting back that all-important Hispanic vote seems to have
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been ignored by the GOP in this last election. We're
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going to break that down and so much more. And
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as always, stay in touch with us on social media.
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I'm David Pollack, USA on all social media platforms, or
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send us an email, davidpollackprimetime at oedblen.com.
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I'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. Until then...
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Stay classy, America.
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