Where Does This Live (with Hope Cox)

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Hi guys and welcome back to Daniel Does DFW Theater.
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My name is Daniel and this is where we talk about everything theater plus really Well, no, it's only theater.
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Probably Like every single week, I have an amazing guest to join me that I'm super excited about, you know, and you love them so much.
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If you don't know them, you need to know them.
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Today I have the wonderful, the beautiful, the marvelous, the fabulous Hope Cox.
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Hi, thanks for joining me, hope.
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Thank you for having me.
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She's fabulous.
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Yeah, just like you, her.
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So Hope your pronouns are.
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She, hope.
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Thank you for having me.
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This is fabulous, yeah, just like you, so Hope, your pronouns are she, her, she, her, thank you.
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Now, I know that we've worked on a couple shows together now, or maybe just no two shows together through Theater Arlington, but you are a pretty sought-after designer here, don't be ashamed of it.
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Yeah, you are a pretty sought after designer here, don't be ashamed of it.
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Yeah, you are, yeah, pretty sought after designer here in the area, um, that everyone wants to work with, right?
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Um, I know that, uh, you've worked at, I mean, theater arlington jubilee.
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Uh, you've done some high school shows as well.
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All right green hill.
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Green Hill School in Addison.
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And then any other regional theaters or anything that oh DTC right, dtc.
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I have my first full design show coming up this summer, but I've assisted twice, last fall and then January, and then I also do stuff over at Water Tower.
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Oh nice, I didn't know you did Water Tower as well.
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I like it there.
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It's very close to my house.
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Before we really get into it, I do want to ask you a very, very tough question.
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Somebody wrote in on our questions for Hotsy Questions and I'm going to read it verbatim why so many ugly wigs in DFW?
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Because none of us know how to do wigs literally okay, can I tell you before we like get into it?
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I wanted to ask you that too.
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I was like I need to ask her before we get into you.
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Actually it made me laugh though that's something right in.
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Why somebody ugly, why?
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Why is that the question you send in?
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You're not wrong, though, because that's like a whole different art form and a whole different practice from costume design.
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Yeah, we'll like get into a little bit of it and we'll learn it, like throughout.
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But there are like wig designers and people who like Michael B Moore.
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Michael B Moore, people who go to school for it.
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Logan Coley, broker designers and people might be more people who go to school for it logan coley, broker fabulous um.
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Nick winch over at dtc, um oh, and there's another one.
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I don't know that he's ready for people to know that he's a weak designer yet, but he just did steal magnolias so if you look in the playbill you'll see who it is.
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But he's fabulous, oh love it, yeah, and then I know that, like um, isaiah has even done some really yeah, okay, yeah, I know, isaiah has put together some wigs as well or designed them as well, um, but yeah, okay, so I just so I was like, why ugly wigs?
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I'm just like listen please theaters, when you're hiring a costume designer also hire a wig designer, please?
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That'd be great.
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There's so many talented ones.
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I was worried about the wigs too.
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I'm glad they got snatched real quick.
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Looked like Latrice right off just ripping that wig right off of Derrick Barry.
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Let's also go into the drag community and bring some of them in to do wigs, ripping that wig right off of Derrick Barry.
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Let's also go into the drag community and bring some of them in to do wigs, because they know what they're doing.
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Maybe we should tap into that I would love that yeah agreed, Okay.
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So let's back to Hope.
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Let's have some Hope in our life.
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Let's backtrack even more.
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How old are you?
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Are you comfortable saying how old are you?
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I'm 31.
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The smile behind it I earned those years Well, because you still look like you were like 22.
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Oh, you fully admit that.
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Black don't crack.
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So here we are, and brown, don't frown.
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We are sad people.
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No, yeah, no, you still.
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Honestly, I think the first time I met you I was like, oh, she's so young.
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And then we were like pretty much the same age, we are the same.
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I'm younger, yes, so yeah, no, you are so young.
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Did you go to school for design?
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What did you do?
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What was?
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so I originally started with fashion design.
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Okay, do I like?
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what?
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What was your inspiration for fashion design?
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did you say, like five years old, I've been like sewing and designing because my mom, she was a seamstress growing up but like I would make outfits for my Barbies, my aunt she used to collect China dolls so I would send her like full renderings of what I wanted the outfit to be.
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Then she would like send it back.
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So I was like full down for fashion design.
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And then I went to school, went to the wrong school for fashion design.
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It was a lot more commercial and I was like, oh, this kind of sucks, because like I've been working my whole life to be a fashion designer and it just wasn't enough.
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I needed something with a little bit more zhuzh and more drama.
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And I found my way to theater.
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Um, now have you seen like those tiktoks of that one lady who does the, she makes the dresses that like her grandmother.
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I thought that was so cool, yeah, and I did stuff like that.
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Growing up like I made my own outfits.
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I remember my fifth grade graduation dress.
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It was like satin baby blue with little bows on it and I had a little shawl to go with it.
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I'm actually wearing that later.
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She brought it for us today, surprise, and I fit into it.
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Well, this one arm does the applique, it's on top of me.
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No, I think that's so.
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Do you still have some of those drawings or some of those?
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I don't think I do.
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I think my mom does, like probably does.
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She also will randomly take like current things that I have and steal notebooks.
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So I'll be like where's that sketchbook that?
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I was like in the middle of a show and she'll be like, oh, hold on.
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And then she'll give it back.
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I love that so much that's so cute, though she real supported well, and I'm sure as her, being a seamstress as well.
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Right like that was something that she did.
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She ever want to get into.
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She actually did interior design.
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Yeah, my family's very creative we need to talk about a shirt that I saw the other day that looked like it was a couch, but it was a shirt was it like the 90s floral?
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Yeah, I feel like I know you're talking about it, but it was 155 dollars and I was like hope can make this.
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I hope so how many hope funds we got in there there's no hope in me stopping.
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So um, so you found a theater to take a chance on you, right?
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Um, tell me, are you allowed to say which theater you said?
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It was like far away, or?
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Oh no, it was Louisville Community Theater, oh so.
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I was thank you, louisville, for producing and making this.
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Honestly, I learned so much at lewisville because I was, and still am living in lewisville, and so I randomly typed in lewisville and theater and, just like in google, first thing that popped up clicked on it sent them an email being like, hey, I know how to sew and design.
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I'd love to learn more about theater because I've never done anything theater related before that.
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And so they sent me an email like right away, cause they were two weeks out from La Cage Aux Folles and like the fabric had just come in and there were so many custom things that they were making.
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So they were like, yeah, that'd be great.
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So I went in like the next day they handed me a bag of things that needed to be sewn.
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I stayed up for like two days straight, came in the bag and I was like what's next?
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And so I just kind of kept going and like with that show and like so many shows after that, like my first three or four shows I was working with like DFW heavy hitters, like Lon Barrera, doug Fowler, like Cameron Potts all of them were on those like first couple of shows and I didn't know that they were big DFW names.
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I was just like oh, they're so nice, they're so cool.
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And so, through word of mouth, more theater started taking a chance on me.
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I love that.
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That's a hard show, though, I would think, to start into.
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You couldn't pick something easy.
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I didn't know my dad knew the show more than I did.
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Because I didn't know my dad knew the show more than I did Because he speaks French.
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We love him.
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I love that so much.
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No, and then from there, you just continued to make contacts and they found out how amazing you were.
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Yeah, people just kept being like oh, we need somebody, we need somebody.
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And I was like, yes, I said yes to anything and everything, because I was like this is what I'm doing and I'm gonna make it just like you know, continuing to work, yeah.
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I imagine there were so many different colors in that La Cage, a Fall right um.
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Would you say that you could identify colors?
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uh, you know, yes, we'll see how well.
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But, yes, well, we're gonna take a small break because we're gonna play a game and see how well.
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But, yes, well, we're going to take a small break because we're going to play a game and see how well you are at identifying colors after La Cage, because I'm sure you had to, I'm sure it was like a gay green obviously cross dresser cream you're so good at this are you?
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A designer.
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I am actually wow, wow.
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You're gonna take on my next show.
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No, I don't know, but we're gonna take a break.
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We're gonna play this game.
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We'll see you all, right?
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Um, I hope we're gonna play a little game together, okay?
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Um, because, like I, because, like I said, I wanted to see how great you are at defining colors, right?
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So I've got some colors here for you to talk about.
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I'm going to mix them up here, see what we can do, and I want you to identify the color, okay, and see if you can.
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So, for our audience members.
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It looks like an emerald green.
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Emerald green.
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Let's see how she does y'all.
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What was it, Roz Mermaid C?
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Why why?
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Why is that?
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Mermaid C?
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I don't know, Because I feel like mermaid C would be more blue.
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No, I see that Like when you think mermaid sea would be more blue.
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No, I see that Like when you think of like the mermaid, like things like the.
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Scales.
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Yeah, just keep on rubbing yourself.
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Yeah, that's giving like aerial, I guess.
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So Scales I was going to say scales.
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Scales.
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That's giving aerial skills.
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Oh my God, scales.
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This might be the color that I picked for Ariel to wear.
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so sorry, christina, she doesn't know she doesn't know what color she's picking so we got one wrong.
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It's okay, you still have five more chances to get one right today.
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Sure, let's see here for everyone at home.
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It's like Welch's grapefruit juice or grape juice Great.
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Purple.
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Is it Welch's grapefruit juice?
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purple I said grape, like seven more times in there.
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Grapefruit juice, grapefruit, purple Prince, oh, like Prince, purple rain, purple rain, that's fair.
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Purple is the color of royalty.
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It's also the color of wisdom and magic.
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So far, two wrong.
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Okay, since we are wearing green today, I picked a green one for us.
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Kind of matches our color palette.
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That we're going with money green.
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Oh, money green is the correct answer.
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Money green, come on.
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No whammies, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies.
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Luck of the Irish.
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Oh, I've got a great story about an Irish boy.
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Is it appropriate?
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No.
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Did you get lucky?
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What a great color.
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We're still at three wrong.
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None of them right yet.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna try really hard.
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Okay, okay okay, okay, got another.
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Lavender Haze.
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Ooh, lavender Haze.
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Oh, isn't that a beer?
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It's a strain of weed or a nut, but it never gets so the correct color is Velvet curtain.
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That sounds interesting.
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Really, should we put it with the Irish.
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Sure your velvet curtain.
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I'm real lucky with the Irish.
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All right.
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Here is another one right here People at home.
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Baby blue.
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Baby blue it is giving.
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This is the color we're putting in the nursery.
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Yeah, I think when I have my child I'm trying.
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Thank you, I will not be around for that, god bless.
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I need someone to watch the child while I go out and party.
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Oh my god, congrats.
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Thank you, I will not be around for that, god bless.
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I need someone to watch the child while.
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I go out and party.
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I will be out partying.
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Will you see Wind?
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Ah yes, paint with all the colors of the wind, specifically just that one.
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Do you know what?
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This is the color that Pocahontas is like behind her.
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Can you see with all the colors?
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I'd love to see a Pocahontas stage show.
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Right, I feel like it's doable.
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If we can do Little Mermaid, I think the only thing that's not doable is probably you know the appropriation of like.
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Oh, we're trying to be like kind to people, alright, sure.
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And finding someone who's Native American.
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What was that show that they tried to do in?
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Diego, I'm sorry.
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Very popular Kawana no Kawana I-Q-U-A-N-A-H.
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Yes, kawana, kawana At Lyric.
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I'm sorry y'all, I'm going to have to delete this because that was problematic.
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Here's the last color chocolate brown.
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Did I get it?
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Are you gaslighting?
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You're so close.
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Chocolate soul oh, that's my new name you know, when I saw this, I thought of you.
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That's why I picked it out.
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I was like jacqueline.
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So these are actually all the colors I was thinking of for my room.
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So honestly, this is real pretty right, the whole color palette.
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It's giving mardi gras, but like yeah but not like too rowdy, so you'd be able to sleep nicely.
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Yeah.
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I like that.
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Yeah it's dark right.
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That's cute.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, I was hoping that that would be.
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You know, if we did a show together, that's the color I would want.
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This, yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, I think right, let's see.
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Do you have velvet curtain?
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Yep, how about purple prints?
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No, go fish, go fish, okay.
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I do have one more just to see.
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Let's see here which one do I?
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We're going to go with this one, so I'm going to take it back and give you a hint here.
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I want you to think about characters from Little Mermaid, okay, and who this could represent.
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I know, right, it's weird.
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It kind of shocked me too.
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You're going to be so shocked when you see it atina, one of my sisters you went.
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You went so specific king triton, why you think you'd be like gold, right?
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Yeah, I think, because so they're not thinking of the characters, are probably thinking of like sea, and so, since he's the king of the sea, I think I guess, well, you were, you at least got.
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Yeah, there's another one out there.
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You got one of them half right.
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So we're going to give you, we're going to put one point on the board and with that you get two more segments with me.
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Wow, can I trade that in for another prize?
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Or is that like?
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No, I'm still grateful, we're good.
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Well, this game was a shit show, so we can go back to our segments.
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Thanks, guys.
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You might want to brush up on your colors.
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Probably, probably, yeah, whatever, I still get looked at sometimes, well Dang.
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You're going to come to me like, ooh Right, it's refreshing.
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Yeah, oh right, it's refreshing that's good.
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Oh yeah, it's like it's almost like there's mango and strawberry it's like the white claw, like from the next room.
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It's just barely girl that one night you were drinking all the I didn't know that what you had was a white cloth and I thought I almost died the next day.
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I can't do white cloth.
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I was on the toilet when I tell you I thought it was just a part of your, oh goodness, okay.
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Well, this is part of our Patreon that we are adding later.
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It was just a partier, oh goodness, okay.
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Well, this is part of our Patreon that we are adding later.
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That makes me laugh so much.
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I also have the footage of her on the toilet.
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You can catch it on the Patreon.
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No, yeah, speaking of you getting booked, tell me maybe what your favorite booking has been thus far.
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So I did this show years ago.
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It was an original show called Sharing the Stage is Murder and it's four different shows happening all on one stage.
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The actors don't know that they're actors.
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So there's like 1970s hippie show happening and 1920s gangster show and then like a Victorian show and then like a random western that you only see one character for.
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So it's the same actors playing different characters in each of these decades.
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So I had a butler changing into like a three-piece butler suit with gloves, changing into like a bright red 1920s gangster.
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Look in like 15 seconds.
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It was robbie san juan.
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He was fabulous.
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It was amazing.
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We got to like the end of tech week and, uh, like playwright owns the theater.
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So she's been like sitting in tech and looking at it and she comes up to me afterwards.
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She's like, wow, these costumes are like so amazing.
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I just thought that they would like change a shirt or something.
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I'm like you ain't tell me that from the beginning.
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I'm out here making full suits that are connected, that you just do one zip like it's a jumper and like getting these women out of these big gowns into these like beaded 1920s dresses.
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It was so much fun and I had to figure out some theater magic for it, but it would have been nice if I knew that she was like we'll just do pieces, whatever that's impressive though theater magic is fun, do you enjoy um like, what's your favorite costume theater magic that you've seen, maybe in a show?
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um, like like.
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We all love the elsa reveal right in frozen.
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We all love the.
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Um, what is that?
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Oh my gosh, the guy that plays like 26 characters um the dice with family, um no murder.
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Yeah, the gentleman's guy, the gentleman's guy we all love you know him changing and turning things inside out and stuff like that.
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Is there maybe a theater magic moment that you really, really enjoyed?
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so at the end of memphis, the musical, there's this moment where I think I think main character's name is felicia r.
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Rachel Poole played her.
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That's the first time I met Rachel.
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She comes on at the end and she's having this like really heartfelt love, match talk, and then all of a sudden her suit changes into, like this beautiful dress that she's wearing to like do the big performance in, and it's like someone reaching through the whole, kind of like Elsa, where they just like her jacket and then it all pulls.
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That was the first time that I had ever made a theater magic dress, and so I did it kind of the same way where she was in a suit, but then we didn't have a way for someone to pull it, so she had to pull it herself where she like pulled from the snaps, and then underneath was this beaded dress I it's still on my instagram somewhere.
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I saw that the bootleg version of it on Broadway and I was like, oh, I have to do that at some point.
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And then, of course, the Cinderella dress oh, that's always stunning my favorite that I always.
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I still get teary eyed when I think about it because it takes the whole team lighting.
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Everything is in Dreamgirls when Effie White is auditioning and then the lights go dark and it's just a spotlight on her face and then lights come up and she's wearing a completely different.
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Yeah for Unchanging.
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Yes, we did that as well.
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So when I did Dreamgirls a couple years ago, we had her in like a what's it called.
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It was like a big tunic thing that she then pulled from the side and then she had like a glittery number on underneath.
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I love, I love doing moments like that it's just it.
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It makes it I would say, yeah, it's just like it actually.
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Yeah, well, and dream girls has like the original production had so many because even when, like the girls, are walking through that beaded um overlay right and then their dresses change as they're walking through.
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That was another one that like oh, dreamgirls has so many costumes and like it's beautiful, but it's also so much work and so much money.
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Like, and the fact that they say it in the show.
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they're like we're gonna get you beautiful new gowns and new wigs and as a designer you're like, hey, maybe we just get some jewelry.
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Like, why beautiful gowns?
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Like what do we?
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What do we have to keep saying that they're changing?
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It's a lot of work, because that's also like 15 seconds they go around the stage and then suddenly they're in brand new gowns yeah, no, um, okay.
00:23:53.005 --> 00:23:58.185
So I want to uh take a step back and talk about your process just a little bit as a designer.
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Give us like a world or a look into the world of a designer, of a costume designer.
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Uh, just in working with you, you know I've seen that you really do think this through right it's not like I hate to say this, but like some people phone it in right and not just on costume design but like in other realms of design or anything right.
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They think they can just come in and do it, but you actually take the prep work behind it to really think into it.
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So tell me a little bit of like day one and where you go from there.
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Yeah, my process is a lot like you would for like a single actor or a director, and that I get to know the characters.
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So you know, first I do the read through and then I'll set up a costume plot to say you know this page, this scene setting, if it's musical, what songs are in it, who's in each scene and if there's any special notes, like them saying they need beautiful gowns, if she wears a red dress, just to get all of that like kind of boring information just out of the way.
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And then I'll go back in and look at each character individually, like who are they as a person?
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And then something that I really like to do is color theory.
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So different colors, they meet different emotions.
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Um, so like, if you look at the cereal aisle when you're in walmart, you're going to see a lot of orange, because orange is a color that makes you excited and it makes you hungry.
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So, so all colors have different meanings.
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So, like we're wearing green, it's renewal, it's wealth, wealth, so we're starting over and we're getting money, wealth.
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So I'll assign colors to the actor or to the character and get to know the character, I'll see what's period appropriate, just all the different things, and I'll start gathering images to then present to the director to make sure that we're all on the same page.
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We'll go back and forth, I'll do some sketches, get a final idea of what we want to see on stage and then at that point actors come in and then I may take all all that and throw it out the window, because at the end of the day it's the actor who's up on stage wearing the clothing.
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So if I have the idea that you know, this character is sassy wearing booty shorts and crop tops, and I have an actor come in and be like, I'm super uncomfortable doing that, I'm like sweet.
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So instead they are in a fierce cape and we're going to change it up and we're going to make it so that what the actor is comfortable with and what and who the character is really meld together.
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And then I get to do the fun stuff of going shopping and doing the fittings and having those conversations until we finally get to tech week and we all cry.
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But then it gets on stage until we finally get to tech week and we all cry, but then it gets on stage.
00:26:39.806 --> 00:26:48.834
No, I feel that I was laughing at what you were saying, because I did, uh, rocky horror which like everything's supposed to be like sexy, right?
00:26:48.834 --> 00:26:49.817
I was not.
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I'm very much more comfortable with my body now, um than I was then, and michael robinson was our love.
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Love the michaels right yeah, michael robinson was our costume designer.
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The Michaels right, yeah, michael Robinson was our costume designer and he was like, okay, we're gonna put you in this tight little vest and that's it.
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And I was like, um, is there anything going on the vest, over the vest?
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He's like we will yeah, and like I could tell, it is like because he was like he was like it's gonna look great and he was like he was like it's going to look great and I was like yeah so definitely Right.
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I know that you probably have this original idea and then I'm standing there before you like.
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But what if?
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And then I'm like tell me about it.
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Yeah, no.
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Let's see.
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So, no, definitely appreciative of that Now in your process.
00:27:40.204 --> 00:27:52.579
One thing that I really really like yes, you talked about this as well when we've done, we've done kid shows together is what we've done, or youth shows, excuse me, and you are really really good at color palette, like you said.
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I loved when you make sure that, like even in scenes, there's a consistent color palette, or across the costumes as well.
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Specifically, when we did, um, james and the giant peach jr, like you made sure that it was all like toned down, like that dark feeling, that gray feeling.
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Yeah, um, which was so like I remember the kids coming out and like it made such a difference with every single scene, to the point that, like even patterns, you were taking like a close eye at patterns as well and I was like dang, she's really good.
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We also do this really cool thing with our show where we do a costume parade.
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I love costume parades.
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Yeah, cindy has done that ever since.
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I started working with her and like the kids will by scene come out and like we have them line up and show what they're wearing.
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And every time we've worked with you it's just cindy and I are next to each other like yes, did you see that?
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You know, and the kids may not even be buttoned correctly, you know, but oh, that's my favorite part about working with kids, because you're like how did you get into that?
00:28:56.101 --> 00:28:58.903
piece of clothing and that way, how, how did?
00:28:58.923 --> 00:29:00.404
you tuck your entire jacket.
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His whole jacket was just tucked into his pants, like it was a stretchy pants, and had to put his whole jacket into his pants.
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He came out on stage, I was like I'm just impressed.
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How did you?
00:29:10.693 --> 00:29:12.435
How Wow, I'm not even mad.
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I'm impressed.
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No, so that I think that that's something that we appreciate, that you just have the eye for it, and I think that's definitely what it takes.
00:29:23.145 --> 00:29:29.730
Speaking of having the eye for it and what people can wear, I'm a little nervous.
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We asked Hope to pull some things today for me to wear, since she has the eye for it right.
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So hopefully I look great, but we're going to take a small.
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We're going to take a small little break and go to our second fun segment with Hope as she tries to costume me.
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See you in a bit.
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Alright.
00:29:49.964 --> 00:29:58.909
So I've put all of my years of training to use and I've picked out a couple of looks for Daniel, so we are going to bring him on.
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Come home couple of looks for Daniel, so we are going to bring him on.
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So I asked Daniel what his favorite candy was and he said Snickers.
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So we've got a beautiful queen named Snickers.
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Snickers, give us a little walk.
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Yes, yes yes, to show off the delicious New Guinea center, we have this gold sequined dress, and then over it we've got a duster that's got this beautiful golden fur feather trim.
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And then on top, for the chocolate, we have a lovely pleated hat and a chocolatey brown fur coat.
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Yum, Okay, this is a great look.
00:30:47.067 --> 00:30:49.787
I don't know if it's a look I would wear out.
00:30:49.787 --> 00:30:54.545
Why Do you know what I would?
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Yeah, I'm going to take this home just in case, and we're going to try the next one.
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We'll be right back.
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All right, and next up we're getting to our Texas roots here.
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Come on out, daniel.
00:31:09.173 --> 00:31:18.507
I would like to introduce you to Queso the cowboy, another favorite treat of Daniel's.
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Let's give us a little walk.
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Go, go go.
00:31:30.703 --> 00:31:31.405
Alright, what am I wearing?
00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:34.907
So on top we've got a classic cowboy hat.
00:31:34.907 --> 00:31:46.328
We've got this fun kind of 70s inspired with this big lapel burnt orange jacket, and then, of course, classic cowboy We've got some plaid underneath and some tans and browns.
00:31:46.328 --> 00:31:54.286
We've got some brown slacks and then, to top it all off, we've got these lovely brown boots with this embroidery on the side.
00:31:54.286 --> 00:31:55.670
Little leg, yes.
00:31:58.182 --> 00:31:59.386
Is this like the Rotel?
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Is this this the tomatoes?
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that's the best part.
00:32:02.114 --> 00:32:07.493
Yeah, we didn't have, I was gonna say is this the spicy chorizo chorizo?
00:32:08.457 --> 00:32:09.961
right, we might have to get queso after this.
00:32:09.961 --> 00:32:14.221
Um, yeah, I could see me wearing this out to the club, maybe when I live in a college station.
00:32:14.221 --> 00:32:18.188
No, we've got a roundup in this, roundup in this, can you imagine?
00:32:18.188 --> 00:32:26.040
No, okay, so Hope obviously knows what she's doing, obviously.
00:32:26.040 --> 00:32:29.371
So we're going to get back to our talking segment.
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See you in a bit.
00:32:40.885 --> 00:32:42.789
Hi Snickers, we're not doing it.
00:32:47.281 --> 00:32:48.025
We just gonna keep going.
00:32:48.025 --> 00:33:03.731
So, anyway, speaking of worst decisions ever made, because that's how I feel about that, let's talk about maybe you have a little story about Seussical.
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Yes, so I did Seussical Junior last year.
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I do a lot of youth shows, that's kind of my favorite part and I had one sweet baby who was one of our who's, come up to me about 30 minutes before the show.
00:33:17.982 --> 00:33:22.742
She goes, miss hope, do you have another shirt?
00:33:22.742 --> 00:33:25.307
I said no, what?
00:33:25.307 --> 00:33:25.989
What happened?
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She goes.
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I dropped it in the toilet and the sink and in my mind I'm like how, but also I have a good 30 minutes, so sure.
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So I okay just, uh, just came to me and it wasn't like super wet, like it truly was, like she like dipped it here and dipped it there and like their sinks are automatic and kind of like strong so I understand how it happened, but still, wow.
00:33:51.112 --> 00:34:05.624
So I had to take it upstairs to their laundry room where I had like disinfected because I didn't have time for like a full wash, and then threw it in the dryer and, like a couple minutes before she was supposed to go on for like her first song, I was able to like run it back to her and she put it on.
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She's like thanks and just like ran off.
00:34:07.188 --> 00:34:08.472
Love kids.
00:34:08.472 --> 00:34:11.724
Yeah, and that's when we learned.
00:34:11.724 --> 00:34:14.692
What didn't you learn from that?
00:34:15.875 --> 00:34:22.269
don't take your costume into the toilet, sure, I mean.
00:34:22.269 --> 00:34:34.365
Um, I mean, that's still not as bad as probably your worst interview, which makes me laugh too that I love this story so much because I'm not gonna tell the no, I'm not gonna get to the punchline yet.
00:34:34.365 --> 00:34:37.775
I'll wait until you tell okay.
00:34:37.795 --> 00:34:41.594
So here's the thing my favorite show is Big Fish.
00:34:41.594 --> 00:34:44.702
I've done the grander version.
00:34:44.702 --> 00:34:57.228
I'd love to do the 12 chairs version at some point, but this was the first time that I ever had to interview for a show and really the only time that I've like put myself out there to be interviewed for a show, so probably why I haven't done it again.
00:34:57.228 --> 00:35:05.735
Um, so I went and I met with the director and I had some sketches that I was going to show him and you know it was going well.
00:35:05.735 --> 00:35:11.413
We were chit-chatting about the show and about the designs and then he was like so what does like the show mean to you?
00:35:11.413 --> 00:35:17.161
And so if you don't know Big Fish, is you know father-son relationship and like I love my dad, I'm such a Fish is you know father-son relationship?
00:35:17.161 --> 00:35:19.068
And like I love my dad, I'm such a daddy's girl.
00:35:19.068 --> 00:35:22.663
You know we've had our ups and downs, but like I love him.
00:35:22.762 --> 00:35:23.847
I'm not going to cry this time.
00:35:24.487 --> 00:35:45.449
So I was talking to the director about how I relate to it with like my own relationship with my father, and then I started crying, like not a cute cry, and so he just like kind of handed me a tissue and like I kind of got it back together and like I felt really good about it, I was like, oh wow, like that was such a good conversation, I didn't get the job.
00:35:45.650 --> 00:36:06.608
There's the punchline still did not get it, which is fair, because I'd also be like, wow, she's a lot they just imagined all the costumes soaked with tears as you're sewing, just All the sewing, just all over the place Yep, so I didn't get that one, but it's okay, I ended up doing the show later.
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There you go.
00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:08.894
Yeah, you got to do it again.
00:36:08.974 --> 00:36:10.239
I have to do it no tears this time.
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.456
You did not cry, yeah.
00:36:12.085 --> 00:36:14.547
I mean, now I know I just need to look at you and say Big fish.
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Now I know I just need to look at you and say big fish, the tears just start immediately flowing.
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Just a single tear.
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Well, I felt like that was probably one of your dream shows.
00:36:23.536 --> 00:36:25.619
But I know your big dream show is Chicago.
00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:37.655
That's so many costumes, though, and I think because it's like a show within show at the same time, right, and you have all of those options for all of the murderessesesses, everything.
00:36:37.655 --> 00:36:40.326
I think that that would be really fun I don't.
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Has it been done in the area?
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recently no, it's been years.
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I think main stage irving was the last to do it and it's just a really expensive show.
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.632
Just getting the rights for it is ridiculous, which is why nobody does it.
00:36:53.632 --> 00:36:56.025
And then it's I think it's still on broadway or it's touring.
00:36:56.025 --> 00:36:57.168
No, it's still on because jinx just completed.
00:36:57.188 --> 00:36:59.860
No, it's still on Broadway because Jinx just completed, I think.
00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:01.025
Oh, that's true, yeah, yeah.
00:37:01.025 --> 00:37:04.155
So they're not releasing those rides anytime soon.
00:37:04.155 --> 00:37:07.721
I think Peter Arlington tried to do it and then they had to switch it out.
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Yeah, cause it was COVID, I think, when they were supposed to do it, and then I remember when we had to remove it, yeah, yeah.
00:37:14.757 --> 00:37:20.581
So I would love to do it, though you know it has all the sparkles and you know you do love sparkles.
00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:28.105
We'll talk about sparkles again later.
00:37:28.105 --> 00:37:29.827
Now it's something that I want to dig into just a little bit more.
00:37:29.827 --> 00:37:36.639
We touched on it in the last segment, but I do want to talk about the constant changes that you know are coming up.
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.307
The constant changes that you know are coming up.
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Not only that we see right I've talked about it with multiple of my guests at this point where trans, non-binary, any type of people right that don't fit into a category, being cast in shows.
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How does that?
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How's that been routed on the costume side?
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yeah, I think something that's really interesting I was talking with a director friend about this is because we're in theater and because we're in the arts, we're in the forefront of a lot of those things.
00:38:06.668 --> 00:38:12.628
So we are at the beginning of navigating what that looks like and how to have those conversations.
00:38:12.628 --> 00:38:14.494
So we're not always going to get it right.
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We're going to try, because this is a safe space, but we're not always going to get it right.
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We're going to try because this is a safe space, but we're not always going to get it right.
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And so that's something I've had to learn as I've uh, as I've like gone through my career, and I would say it's not something I've learned from other costumers, it's something I've learned from actors.
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So there's been some fantastic actors who have been very comfortable speaking out and saying like, oh, I'm not really comfortable with this, or hey, what if we did that?
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:47.092
And then me being able to not put my ego into it and to be able to say, yeah, let's have a conversation about that.
00:38:47.092 --> 00:38:57.532
And so, from learning from actors who have been brave enough to speak out and to say what they need and be able to self-advocate, I've taken that to well, why don't we just start?
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with that.
00:38:58.425 --> 00:39:12.152
So whenever I'll start a new show, if I get the chance to speak to the cast as you know, a whole or if I'm just doing it individually while I'm taking measurements, I always give like a little speech of you are the one that is ultimately on stage.
00:39:12.425 --> 00:39:15.405
You are one wearing the costume and as much research as I've done you.
00:39:15.405 --> 00:39:17.228
You are one wearing the costume and as much research as I've done.
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You know the character better than anybody.
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So if there is a point where you're not comfortable, please communicate with me.
00:39:24.356 --> 00:39:28.460
While I'm taking their measurements and asking their sizes, I also ask what's your fit preference?
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Do you like things more fitted, a little bit looser?
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What's going to make you feel comfortable and be able to dive into the work as much as possible?
00:39:34.976 --> 00:39:38.143
Or I'll ask are you comfortable in heels?
00:39:38.143 --> 00:39:40.331
Are you comfortable in skirts, in dresses?
00:39:40.331 --> 00:39:41.594
How do you feel about corsets?
00:39:41.594 --> 00:39:43.367
How do you feel about all different kinds of things?
00:39:43.367 --> 00:39:47.155
So I get to know you, so we have like a really solid foundation.
00:39:47.155 --> 00:39:58.286
So when we get into fittings, you already know that I care like I genuinely care that you are happy on stage, that you are comfortable on stage, that, like you know, you're ready to strut your stuff.
00:39:58.286 --> 00:40:04.009
I think one of my favorite things is whenever I'm at Jubilee, we have a saying of where does this live?
00:40:04.009 --> 00:40:09.728
So anytime they like like a costume piece, they'll come out of their fitting and go uh, where does this live?
00:40:09.728 --> 00:40:14.617
And so, if I can, get one of those that's like top notch.
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:18.211
Or if I'm working with teenagers, because you know they don't like to give adults any kind of compliment.
00:40:18.612 --> 00:40:31.454
If they're like, oh, this is actually pretty cute, then I'm like like one yeah, I know one of my students, max, and he put on uh, I think this for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and he's like, oh yeah yeah, I love that especially.
00:40:31.474 --> 00:40:37.896
like you know, teenage boys are generally a little bit more like oh, yeah, yeah, no, it's whatever, it's cool.
00:40:37.896 --> 00:40:42.672
But when I have one that comes out and they're like Miss Hope, I actually really like this.
00:40:42.693 --> 00:40:45.445
I'm like yeah, yeah, do you know, it was for both of his costumes.
00:40:45.445 --> 00:41:05.070
I forgot it was also for James, because he had those pants that he was like, yeah, and the hat and everything, where it was just like, and I remember even telling him like we should see about like purchasing the costume, because it was like, because he is very his style, is like that old classic, and so it was like you should maybe check into that.
00:41:05.070 --> 00:41:08.117
Like, I saw him at the Buckley's and I was like, is that your mom's jacket?
00:41:08.117 --> 00:41:15.018
Because it's very much so like it was not, you know, but it's like just that style where it looks like that type of cut.
00:41:15.018 --> 00:41:17.512
And I was like, yes, child style where it looks like that type of cut.
00:41:17.512 --> 00:41:54.030
And I was like, yes, child, um, but yeah, you do not have a costume, and that's one thing that I will say that you did really, really well with the shows that we worked with with the youth, um, because you not only put we did have, you know, uh, children who identified as non-binary, but it was not only that, it was also cultural with one of our students as well, one of the youth that was there that, uh, she was not allowed to wear dresses and you were able to put them in pants and you identified it right away and it didn't have to turn into a problem for them, right, right, where it was like, oh, I'm nervous about having to tell the costumer, you put it out there from day one and they were, they felt comfortable enough to come up to you, yeah, and say, oh, actually, can I wear pants?
00:41:54.030 --> 00:42:09.835
And they, they were adorable, every single I remember I'm not gonna say their name for their own, but the cutest little child we had ever had on that stage, just because everything, everything they wore, um, but yeah, I, I like that.
00:42:10.215 --> 00:42:20.807
Um, I think you said you call it self-advocacy, right that we need to be partners in that, with the costume designer at the same time, and make sure that we are speaking up for ourselves, but in a healthy way, right, and in the right way.
00:42:20.847 --> 00:42:39.130
Where it's like, hey, I'm not really comfortable in that, and so I think I want to stress that with all of the actors out there in DFW, it's okay to have these conversations with your costume designer if you're not comfortable with something or if you identify, and especially with Dom recently I was talking with Dom.
00:42:40.766 --> 00:42:48.393
Dom would like to be cast more in female playing roles, and so that's a conversation that we need to have.
00:42:48.393 --> 00:42:53.012
How would we dress them appropriately, or what's the correct fit?
00:42:53.012 --> 00:42:56.532
And I think that a customer like you, where it's like, what are you comfortable in?
00:42:56.532 --> 00:43:40.248
And it's okay to have those questions, or you know, and have those conversations where and I mean, and back to our conversation I have seen at some of our larger theaters here at DFW, where it's hard to costume for people of color, it's hard to wig for people of color and the wigs just ain't right, um, and it's it's problematic yeah and I think because we're not putting people of color behind the table to identify that and it's becoming noticeable and I hope that we say something about it and I hope that we are helping change that yeah, I had one of my kiddos over at the school that I work at um a few years ago.
00:43:41.271 --> 00:43:50.981
Uh, she's the only or I'm the only customer she's known, other than one other lady, and we were just having fittings one day and she turns and she goes, miss hope.
00:43:51.202 --> 00:44:15.668
I'm so glad you're here, because they didn't know what to do with my hair, I'm like and that's why I do it like that's why I love working with youth, because if I can have those conversations now, then they can carry that on and we're starting a new generation of people who are comfortable speaking out for themselves yeah, no, like I said, some of these larger theaters just are relying on who they've had and who's there, and it just does not work.
00:44:15.869 --> 00:44:23.449
So we need to have these conversations, we need to put people like Hope behind the table, we need to make sure that we're involved in those conversations.
00:44:23.449 --> 00:44:28.856
So you have a couple of projects that have just finished.
00:44:28.856 --> 00:44:38.090
I know you came off of Chicken and Biscuits at Theater Arlington and then I'm not sure when this is gonna be specifically released, but you're about to open or you have already opened.
00:44:38.744 --> 00:44:40.170
Little Mermaid over at.
00:44:40.190 --> 00:44:40.452
Dallas.
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Theater Center.
00:44:41.585 --> 00:44:42.568
And are you?
00:44:42.568 --> 00:44:44.213
What's your title there?
00:44:44.213 --> 00:44:45.416
Costume designer.
00:44:45.416 --> 00:44:46.635
You are full costume designer.
00:44:46.684 --> 00:44:54.170
Full costume designer with a lovely, fabulous team of people that I love and trust that is so exciting for you.
00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:55.713
Yeah, that's big.
00:44:55.793 --> 00:44:56.436
Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:44:56.856 --> 00:44:59.954
And then here's the other thing that I'm nervous.
00:44:59.954 --> 00:45:00.565
I'm not.
00:45:00.565 --> 00:45:06.715
I know you're going to kill it because you can do it, but that's at community production, so you're not do you have to also costume the community people.
00:45:07.485 --> 00:45:09.634
Yeah, which is like a little over 100 people yeah.
00:45:19.364 --> 00:45:20.548
So I mean, not only are you having, to deal with.
00:45:20.568 --> 00:45:22.878
You know your main cast, with a hundred people as well on that stage and with a show like the little mermaid.
00:45:22.918 --> 00:45:24.001
This is my third time doing the little mermaid.
00:45:24.001 --> 00:45:31.947
I mean just because just in under the sea, all the different types of bear, I went to go judge a version of little mermaid and those costumes were.
00:45:31.947 --> 00:45:33.009
They made me laugh.
00:45:33.009 --> 00:45:35.954
So you know, like in a good way, like, like yes.
00:45:35.974 --> 00:45:36.795
You can be goofy silly with them.
00:45:36.815 --> 00:45:44.088
Yes, and that's what I loved about it Like the guys were like these cute little, like jellyfish things that came out and it was just yeah.
00:45:44.088 --> 00:45:44.570
Everything.
00:45:44.570 --> 00:45:46.306
The seagulls were good Every like.
00:45:46.306 --> 00:45:53.608
I forget the costumes Because I talked with the director after and she was like it's difficult.
00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:55.429
It's a lot of work.
00:45:55.849 --> 00:45:56.090
Yeah.
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But I mean you've got an amazing cast.
00:45:58.913 --> 00:46:02.394
I mean freaking Liz Michael.
00:46:02.394 --> 00:46:04.717
I mean freaking Liz Michael.
00:46:05.157 --> 00:46:08.039
Wait until you see the wig that she is wearing.
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.460
Stop it is.
00:46:10.481 --> 00:46:11.041
Is it giving?
00:46:11.661 --> 00:46:14.929
Everything I saw like just a proof of it.
00:46:14.929 --> 00:46:26.213
It started crying Like it's you did not it's so beautiful, it's wild, it's gonna steal the show, and then I'm gonna steal it shout out to Nick did a fabulous job with it.
00:46:27.568 --> 00:46:28.190
I'm so excited.
00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:29.094
I can't wait to see it.
00:46:29.094 --> 00:46:30.510
I'm definitely gonna go see it.
00:46:30.510 --> 00:46:33.938
I wanted to be a part I was gonna try out for the community.
00:46:33.938 --> 00:46:40.795
Auditions couldn't fit into my schedule, but I know right, can you imagine Would have loved to, right?
00:46:40.795 --> 00:46:45.672
Well, and I mean with Mark in it, yeah, I just know he's going to be a blast.
00:46:45.672 --> 00:46:47.690
And then isn't it Zachary playing?
00:46:47.690 --> 00:46:48.552
Yeah?
00:46:49.494 --> 00:46:52.273
Sebastian so it's just going to be a blast.
00:46:52.273 --> 00:46:57.128
Any other projects that you can announce for us at this time, or anything that you have coming up, since we're in July?
00:46:59.130 --> 00:47:04.114
I'm taking a little bit of a break in August and I've forgotten all the things that I signed up for in the fall.
00:47:04.114 --> 00:47:05.695
But I do have stuff in the fall.
00:47:06.396 --> 00:47:10.679
So be watching out, and you can watch Hope on her Instagram.
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.380
You can find out what she's doing.
00:47:13.380 --> 00:47:14.822
What's your Instagram handle if you want to share?
00:47:14.902 --> 00:47:26.978
that my Instagram handle is Hope d, as in denise cox, but if you want to see like what I've got coming up, then go to my website, hopecoxcom.
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:27.800
She's got her own website.
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:28.563
Y'all, she's got her own website.
00:47:28.563 --> 00:47:31.070
Her mom probably put it together no, it was during the pandemic.
00:47:31.110 --> 00:47:31.893
I had nothing else to do.
00:47:31.893 --> 00:47:35.931
Oh well, there's that too goodness gracious.
00:47:36.311 --> 00:47:36.891
No, I love it.
00:47:36.891 --> 00:47:37.152
Yeah, I.
00:47:37.152 --> 00:47:40.179
I'm so excited to see all the costumes in Little Mermaid.
00:47:40.179 --> 00:47:41.409
I know you're gonna be fabulous.
00:47:41.409 --> 00:47:43.532
I'm so excited to see your fall projects.
00:47:43.532 --> 00:47:48.731
I think you're gonna be so great in everything you are great in everything you do, I'm ready to see you on stage.
00:47:48.731 --> 00:47:50.887
Should I be sitting on your lap right now, Drew Barrymore style.
00:47:50.887 --> 00:47:56.956
I, just, I, just, I'm everything, I'm everything, I know Okay.
00:47:57.036 --> 00:48:02.324
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.
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Okay, this episode.
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You get your streaming podcasts, such as Apple Podcasts, spotify, google, wherever else we put it anywhere honestly.
00:48:26.507 --> 00:48:33.818
And also don't forget all of our socials at DanielDoesDFW.
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Thank you for joining us today.
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Thanks again to Hope Cox and we'll see you next time.
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Hang on those teacups ground everyday to play away and get her out of my mind ow ow alright well, well well shit, literally well shit.
00:49:17.528 --> 00:49:18.193
What are y'all doing?
00:49:18.193 --> 00:49:18.655
Screw it.
00:49:18.655 --> 00:49:28.896
Okay, so this is a hat, so the show has already happened and this hat was displayed perfectly on Denise Lee's head.
00:49:28.896 --> 00:49:35.275
Yes, right for chicken and biscuit, but today Hope has brought it in there's multiple biscuits.
00:49:36.826 --> 00:49:39.153
One chicken multiple biscuits Biscuits.
00:49:40.766 --> 00:49:42.532
So multiple biscuits.
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That's how I'll remember it.
00:49:43.869 --> 00:49:49.175
From now on, I will never forget chicken and biscuits again.
00:49:49.175 --> 00:49:53.534
I mean, I feel like when I eat chicken and biscuit, like it's one biscuit.
00:49:53.534 --> 00:49:57.311
Multiple chickens no, like the biscuit is opened up.
00:49:57.311 --> 00:49:57.996
You know like's one biscuit.
00:49:57.996 --> 00:49:59.144
Multiple chickens no, like the biscuit is opened up.
00:49:59.144 --> 00:50:01.070
You know like biscuits and gravy.
00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:03.092
Is it biscuit and gravy or biscuits and gravy?
00:50:03.092 --> 00:50:05.554
I'm going to stop this conversation because we need to get back to this.
00:50:05.585 --> 00:50:06.809
The show is biscuits and gravy.
00:50:07.449 --> 00:50:08.072
There's a show.
00:50:08.413 --> 00:50:14.170
Yeah, oh, it's new, Like I think the original premiere was at Jubilee, like a month ago oh, that's kind of cool.
00:50:14.170 --> 00:50:27.092
Yeah, like oh, that's kind of cool yeah, um, okay, so huh, yep the reverb and this thing cracks me up.
00:50:27.132 --> 00:50:29.617
Hello, it's just the hat, the sorting hat.
00:50:29.617 --> 00:50:30.777
That's what it's giving right now.
00:50:30.777 --> 00:50:34.789
So, um, costume design.
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There's a lot of stoning that happens, so hope is going to teach me how to stone today and hopefully I don't ruin this you can't.
00:50:44.215 --> 00:50:45.398
It's just making sparkly things.
00:50:45.398 --> 00:51:00.289
I'm a very messy stoner, so I'll just use my little glue um, put it on like a random palette and then dip my stone in it, just like the little edge of it.
00:51:00.289 --> 00:51:02.539
And this stuff is super powerful.
00:51:02.539 --> 00:51:03.364
It's called E6000.
00:51:03.364 --> 00:51:07.891
You just set it on there we couldn't use E2000?
00:51:07.891 --> 00:51:09.670
No, we gotta go full throttle, man.
00:51:09.670 --> 00:51:25.103
So if you don't mind getting a little messy, okay, just pick one up okay scoop like a little corner of it okay and just anywhere, and there's no design any place.
00:51:25.143 --> 00:51:43.387
You see like a little spot that doesn't have a stone, have at it oh, oh.
00:51:43.387 --> 00:51:45.356
That's the stone that's gonna fall off denise, and I promise you cannot mess it up.
00:51:45.356 --> 00:51:47.164
Um, so, unless you like, put a word in there or something you just like.
00:51:47.164 --> 00:51:47.284
Don't.
00:51:47.284 --> 00:51:50.672
Have you ever done that before?
00:51:50.672 --> 00:51:52.376
No, but I should.
00:51:52.396 --> 00:52:04.454
I have not been using my power fully like I would say from like, far away, right like you probably couldn't tell, but up close you would know yeah, I mean, there's so much.
00:52:05.126 --> 00:52:06.672
Does it come off clear, like?
00:52:06.672 --> 00:52:07.728
Does it dry clear?
00:52:07.728 --> 00:52:16.030
Okay, sorry, denise, I should probably be doing the back of the head, but no, I hear about stoning parties all the time.
00:52:16.030 --> 00:52:18.358
I know you attend stoner parties, but I hear about stoning parties all the time.
00:52:18.358 --> 00:52:22.353
Yeah, I know you attend stoner parties, but I hear about specifically in the drag queen community.
00:52:22.353 --> 00:52:26.373
Yes, right, where they're like, hey, let's all have a party together.
00:52:26.373 --> 00:52:28.936
Like I'll buy pizza, I have to stone my gown, yeah.
00:52:28.936 --> 00:52:32.949
And so like, can we please, you know, help me, stone it all together?
00:52:32.949 --> 00:52:38.057
And they literally all just come together and we'll stone it, you know.
00:52:38.057 --> 00:52:40.586
So is this how stoned?
00:52:40.586 --> 00:52:41.751
Are you thinking this is going to get?
00:52:42.594 --> 00:52:51.161
Um, just enough to catch light, so like probably twice as much as this, twice as much yeah.
00:52:51.161 --> 00:52:54.639
So, like I did, like a base layer with smaller stones and now we're going in with like the bigger ones.
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:56.771
Oh, I didn't even realize we were at a different size.
00:52:56.771 --> 00:53:05.289
Yep Interesting that's smaller stones, and now we're going in with like the bigger ones.
00:53:05.309 --> 00:53:06.413
Oh, I didn't even realize we were at a different size.
00:53:06.413 --> 00:53:07.215
Yep, interesting, that's, that's so cool.
00:53:07.215 --> 00:53:08.338
So, um, how long would you say a stony project takes you?
00:53:08.338 --> 00:53:08.840
I've gotten really fast.
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.646
So I would say all of this that's already on there probably took like an hour and a half.
00:53:11.646 --> 00:53:12.650
Okay, okay, okay.
00:53:12.650 --> 00:53:14.114
And there's like a thousand stones on there.
00:53:14.114 --> 00:53:24.916
So I've gotten fast because I'm constantly adding stones to things, so it doesn't take too too long okay, I just.
00:53:25.376 --> 00:53:25.996
This is like.
00:53:26.697 --> 00:53:35.849
This is the tedious work behind yeah, you just put on a podcast and you put the stones places and then every once in a while you pull it back and you see how much you've done and it's really exciting.
00:53:36.269 --> 00:53:38.753
Do you what are some other like?
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I know that as a costume designer, you're probably also like hemming right, and do you ever cut material when you hem?
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As well Like, or do you try to keep the original product as like close to it as possible?
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Does that make sense?
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It depends.
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If it's like a throwaway piece it depends like.
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if it's like a throwaway piece, yeah, if it's something that I know is an investment piece for the theater, then I'll, you know, just ham and do what I can to not cut.
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But if I know it's like this is so specific for one show, nobody is ever going to use this again and I need for it to like fit my actor just right and they need like an eight inch him, I'm going to cut Because we're not tucking all of that up in there.
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I think I should have stuck it.
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They probably are.
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I'm now a stoned individual, and I mean it's like it's in the perfect Perfect.
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Just immediately goes to stone, all right.
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Well, thanks for teaching me how to stone today.
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I thought this would be like those little applique.
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Have you seen those ones?
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They do have those.
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I like to be more hands-on, so I'm always going to choose the messier option, honestly.
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Yeah.
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No, I feel, yeah, this is definitely the messier option.
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There's also ones where it's like you just put it where you want it and then you can iron it on because it's like heated on the back, yeah, yeah, no, because I've always seen.
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I've always wanted to do one of those like um pictures.
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Have you seen, like where you buy it and then you like stamp it on.
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Basically, I've always wanted to try one of those, but this is definitely much more work than that.
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If I ever get that, I'll let you know and we can do that together, okay, yeah, in fact, we're gonna put it on our Amazon wishlist.
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Buy it for us.
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Thank you all right.
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Thanks so much.
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Hope you're welcome.