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You're on the Dan time podcast. I am your host
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Dan McArdle at Dan time pod on Instagram Facebook
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X and YouTube Dan time pod at gmail .com And
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I've got another fantastic Artist to introduce
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to you today somebody who's gonna fit nicely
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into an existing playlist My guest today is New
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Zealand indie rocker Dan Sharp We dive into Dan's
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songs, including his latest single, Late Night
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Poetry, and we highlight the EP and single of
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the same name, Man Don't Cry, where Dan broaches
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the topic of men and mental health. You'll hear
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Dan perform an acoustic version of Man Don't
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Cry on this episode. Between the brave, bold,
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and given up, that's the title of Dan Sharp's
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upcoming LP. Be sure to follow him on all channels.
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He's at Dan Sharp music on the socials and dansharpmusic
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.com And here are the guys making music with
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Dan on this latest project Stan Bicknell on drums
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Brad Craig on bass Will Henderson on keys and
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Johnny McClain on horns of percussion currently
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based in Mount Manganui, Dan grew up in rural
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Awetera OK, we're going to kick it off here with
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a preview of a track from the Man Don't Cry EP.
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This is Interstellar Runaway. Folks, it is Dan
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Sharp time. I used to wear the world loosely
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Cated to curiosity I could carry all the weight
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on my shoulders But now I'm sick of feeling tired
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Where's the warmth I need to inspire? I'm left
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fighting for a piece of my own mind, of my own
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mind Do I fight for a piece of my own mind? Waiting
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on a sun that just won't rise for me I can't
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go back, yeah I'm done with mine I can't stay
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blind, I can't stay blind, no Today it is my
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pleasure. I'm super excited because I've been
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listening to his music here for a couple weeks
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Getting some goosebumps here Dan with some of
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the songs over 1 million streams on Spotify alone
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New Zealand based Recording artist singer songwriter
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Dan Sharp is my guest today Thanks for being
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here Dan. How you doing my friend? I'm doing
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very well. Thank you for having me Yeah, so you've
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been pretty busy I'd say releasing a couple EPs
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a new single Man, I gotta say I kind of I usually
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start with the new material from my guests and
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work my way back and I could see a progression
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in your sound. It really comes together. I think
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the current single late night poetry Yeah, is
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just a really crisp sound almost getting a little
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bit back to basics, maybe, adding some saxophone
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in there. And this is just a real foot stomper.
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I think you described it as, you know, it bounces
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along beautifully and you couldn't have said
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it better. So I'm really enjoying the catalog.
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How are things going now? Are you writing? Are
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you performing? You do a little bit of both?
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Yeah, there's kind of always a... a hybrid amount
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of many things going on like creating and then
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I guess the packaging like what are you doing
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with the things that you create and what are
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the goals? So I often find myself wearing many
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hats and I currently I suppose the hats I'm wearing
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it's all about releasing music and the best way
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to do that is generally performing alongside
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a release. So then it's looking at how best to
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put this music on a stage with the people that
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have been in the band and how to really just
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get this stuff out there. But I am starting to
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crave the creative part again, because they're
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kind of like chapters in a book. It's been a
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while since I wrote the music and I'm finding
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I'm literally... waking up with lyric ideas and
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hearing things. And it's been a little while
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since that's happened for me. And that kind of
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suggests that it's time to start creating again
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as a routine thing, which I'm excited about.
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It's really cool. I can imagine that the wheels
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are always spinning, new ideas, new experiences
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that you want to capture in your songwriting.
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The first track that I heard and and I probably
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will come back to late -night poetry, but the
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first song I Took a shot on was man. Don't cry.
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Oh Wow, this one is just kind of a you want to
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hear it over and over once you get started on
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it You also described this is one of the heavier
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hitting songs emotionally that you've recorded
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One of the you know, one of the main lines in
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there What is a boy but an extension of the man
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who who made him just love these lyrics by day.
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He's building an empire Betrayed again by night.
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He's breaking He's faded to a double standard
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life and he wonders why the man don't cry Performance
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wise and and sonically I've been wanting to say
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this to you for the past week here this this
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is a a big venue song to me. It sounds like the
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type of song that you're performing in front
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of a big crowd who's kind of jumping in unison,
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and you just about got them in the palm of your
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hand. I mean, it's like really carved up and
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composed for, I think, just that big stage atmosphere.
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Like a festival atmosphere. Yeah, I'd agree.
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It feels like it wants that. It feels like it
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wants to be played on the biggest stage and it
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would sound at home in that space. Kind of has
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some flares of Springsteen. I don't know why
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Sting comes to mind, but maybe just sort of that
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live component of Sting's package, you know.
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But you really hit one on all cylinders there.
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Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that. It's
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funny because Sting is somebody that isn't...
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I've not really connected deeply with the Sting
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catalogue and as I've progressed as a writer,
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I've come to appreciate a lot more about Sting
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and the sound of Sting and I... Only in the last
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couple days, this is the third time I've heard
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Sting come up and, you know, hadn't come up for
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years before. So I feel I generally trust things
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in like, I don't know how to describe it, but
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things come at the right time. Springsteen found
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me definitely at the right time and maybe I was
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at the right time in my kind of journey to connect
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with that and Springsteen is absolutely the right...
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I guess example reference point, but there's
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definitely, if we talked in a year's time, I
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imagine Sting's going to be put in that conversation
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as well. I can just feel it and I'm excited to
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go and dig into the entire catalog. It's just
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funny how these things work. Yeah. See, you know,
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when I was younger, I didn't really listen to
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a lot of Sting's studio records, but I heard
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one of his live albums. And you have some of
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the horn section involved in some of that and
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I was like, okay, okay I can I get it now Yeah,
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I think you I think you really are on to something
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there the song for me I love man. Don't cry but
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interstellar runaway. I was thinking about this
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today I was listening to it this morning traveling
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to work and I said this is this is the goosebump
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song It takes about a minute minute 15 or so
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But you look down and yep, yep, the bumps on
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the arms when you make liftoff on that song.
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How does that one go over? Do you get feedback
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on Interstellar Runaway? It's funny because our
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first outing as a full band performing that song
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live is this Friday coming up at our local venue,
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which is... sort of the venue around and that's
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the show opener actually is that one and I've
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been I've had various formats you kind of touched
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on it there and that introduction is is an evolution
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of my music has taken place the way it's presented
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in the way that I have I guess going out on the
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road and done certain things, even the color
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scheme, the branding, everything, it's definitely
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all taken shape over time. This will be the first
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time with a saxophone on stage in the band. And
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it's sort of a new, it's a bit of an overhaul,
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new musicians who are on that same page. And
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I'm excited to see how it goes, but I know how
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it feels in the room when we play it in that
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song. just, it sets the tone. So I imagine it's
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going to be the opener for, for the foreseeable
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future. And I love how, um, you, you include
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on the man don't cry EP, a real stripped down
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demo version. It sounds like, uh, the song old
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chairs, just very, very raw. And it's, I think
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the, the recording is appropriate for what you're
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singing about. Um, you touch on a lot of subject
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matter that's I think very close to people who
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are listening, relationships, things that have
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not gone so well. And on some of these songs,
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I know you take ownership sometimes of a relationship
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that has gone sour, hasn't quite worked out.
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On some of those songs, are you writing from
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experience or do you have characters in mind?
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I would say everything comes from an experience
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and that is sometimes not always my first -hand
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experience but it's somebody close to me or something
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like a dynamic that I see. Certainly the relationship
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oriented stuff that has definitely been my kind
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of first -hand experience and they often just
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come from a moment. The songs will come out of
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a moment where maybe... Maybe something will
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happen you might hear something or you might
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see something and you're reminded of a situation
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and a new idea Not an idea trying to create a
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song but a new thought comes to mind that is
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a new lens on a situation For instance that song
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old chairs, which was recorded in a way I'm approaching
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recording. I want to approach recording from
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an album perspective, and that song closes out
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the first side of the vinyl, so side A, and it's
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meant to be kind of like a, yeah, I guess like
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a palate cleansing come down and just really
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tender as that part of the story ends. But that
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song, the genesis of it, I suppose, was... Yeah,
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we're sitting in a house that was literally emptied
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of everything that we used to have and and just
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thinking about like sitting literally sitting
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on the floor and going oh the furniture isn't
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here and that's so emblematic of the things that
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this house used to hold and what used to exist
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inside it and I think it started out it was sort
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of like the last I can't remember what the phrase
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was but it was almost like the last night in
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our first home And that that sort of kind of
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took different shape. And anyway, it felt like
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an important little just, I guess, just a snapshot
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of a thought at a particular time in the whole
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process. You know, it is a process. Yeah, I think
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everybody has when you talk about the room and
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the red wine stain on the carpet. Yeah, I think
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you do a really good job of placing people here,
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maybe whether they want to go back or not. But
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everyone has has had that experience where They're
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sitting in a room where you used to have deep
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conversations with somebody used to laugh with
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somebody there was a lot of a Lot of life in
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that house for that room and now it's it's empty
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but you see the traces of it so I just think
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that's a really a Beautiful song and really shows
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how you're you're okay being vulnerable and showing
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that vulnerability Yeah, I've for some time felt
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like my greatest gift or my power that I have
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is that I'm not afraid to be vulnerable. And
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I guess that there's some themes in there, particularly
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the song Man Don't Cry, where it's almost calling
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for people to be more vulnerable, particularly
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men. Because how the line that you mentioned
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before, like what is a boy but an extension of
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the man who made him? Often it's a pretty classic
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Kiwi trope around men don't cry. And I think,
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you know, it goes everywhere tough, toughen up,
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harden up. And if the way I see it is if people
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don't have role models of vulnerability, people
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role modeling vulnerability, how are they supposed
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to learn? So all we're doing is reciprocating.
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Yeah, I guess a cycle that has led to to pain
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and bad outcomes. I think New Zealand has the
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worst, maybe the worst, certainly top five to
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10 suicide rate in the OECD. The statistics here
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are really bad. And so while the song's not informed
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directly by one specific situation like that,
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it's certainly, what's the environmental... factors,
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I suppose, or an environmental factor. And I
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certainly don't think I've got the answers, but
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I think questions are important and vulnerability
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is huge. Yeah. I like how you said that. And
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it takes a man to, and oftentimes to get men
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to check into those feelings and maybe talk about
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them and maybe size up their network, size up
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the friends around them and think, do these people
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really care about my well -being maybe I should
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foster friendships with people that I can talk
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to freely and openly and who might even ask me
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hey you look like you're having a rough day or
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you know you know that's that type of thing and
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so that's just a powerful song in so many ways
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speaking of the evolution of your sound on the
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water went away ep And going going back a little
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further. There's some elements here, which I
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really love of R &B Some some hip -hop elements
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even gosh a song like see the way that you used
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to the opener Might be my favorite but gosh,
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I love Louisiana I feel like Louisiana could
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be played on an R &B station. It could be even
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played on a country station I mean, it's got
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you really deliver the goods on there. It's an
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infectious song Yeah, speaking of Louisiana,
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do you perform that one still? I do not, I don't
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think it's going to be a part of this next little
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run with the band. It was definitely, there's
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a number of reasons and the evolution of the
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sound is an interesting one because I really
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did start out just as a bedroom singer -songwriter
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producing my own music. as it's growing into
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this band thing, some of those songs haven't
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translated as well to that band arrangement.
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But it's funny you bring that one up because
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I always felt like that song was almost the dark
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horse of that group. I did the production myself
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on that one and I actually felt like if that
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song had been put in a more experienced producer's
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hands, something could have done a lot more with
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that track. And I'm always interested because
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There's the stories of songs that sort of sit
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there and haven't necessarily done a ton and
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then they connect with somebody in a particular
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way and maybe a bigger artist connects with it
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and they record it and all of a sudden, it can
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really go places. But I love that song and I
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sort of wish I had paid and got a producer who
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knew what they were doing. Yeah. But I appreciate
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your kind words. Oh yeah. I mean, folks, I like
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to say this early in the episode. Feel free everybody
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listening to hit pause on the podcast and go
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to your favorite platform Spotify iTunes Apple
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music wherever you download music and add a man
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don't cry EP late -night poetry and and all this
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material and start, you know take it into these
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songs because What I love on this podcast and
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I said it last week is that? You can get recommendations
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based on what you're already listening to. Spotify
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is pretty good at doing that. It's great. It's
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a great way to build your catalog. But somebody
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like Dan Sharp, you might not realize how much
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you're going to fall in love with his songs and
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he may not come across the algorithm. It's just
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the biggest thrill of this podcast is to introduce
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some of this music where Interstellar Runaway
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hits me like a ton of bricks. All of a sudden,
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Louisiana, I'm here in Louisiana, I'm thinking,
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why in the world is this thing not a chart -topping
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mammoth of a song? Or yeah, like you said, it's
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got such crossover appeal that an established
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artist could have picked that up and maybe they
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still would. and record it. Possibly. Possibly.
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I had, when the Water When Away EP was coming
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out, I had just signed to a small record label,
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an independent one, that a promoter here had
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set up basically to try to get undiscovered Kiwi
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artists just a little more recognition and maybe
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some opportunity that wouldn't be there without
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that. that extra layer of support. But I did
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send that around to a number of industry people
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in New Zealand and the consensus was, particularly
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with the way that you used to, if Lois Capaldi
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was singing this song or, you know, a big country
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act, this song could be, you know, anywhere and
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everywhere in the world. The songs primed for
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that. And unfortunately, your platform isn't
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like... at the place where it's going to carry
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that song, but maybe things will change. And
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I still feel like at some point, one of these
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songs, so long as the songwriting is good enough,
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at some point someone might be like, oh yeah,
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cool, I'll give that a go. And who knows? Who
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knows? Now, wrapping up on this, on the Water
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Went Away EP, New Zealand musician website compared
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you to Ed Sheeran, Lewis Capaldi Mitch James
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Ryan Adams People listening if you haven't started
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listening to the catalog yet just to give you
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some idea They said within ease of lyric and
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warmth of vocal delivery Effortlessly good enough
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to remind you of your own favorite male acoustic
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guitar wielding singer -songwriter At least on
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these last couple EPs. You've gotten some recognition
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here. You're getting across to the live audiences.
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How do you see? Your sound progressing, you know,
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are you do you have a new single new release
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scheduled for later this this fall or in 2024?
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Yeah, I obviously got an album coming out and
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that's gonna be out in April and We've just been
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going through the motions as to like the best
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ways to when I say we me and this this label
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that I spoke of Trying to figure out the best
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ways to get that out and make as much noise as
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possible, but I a Challenge that I've had is
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that it's really difficult to tour Successfully
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in New Zealand and make it financially viable
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So the decisions that we're kind of weighing
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up is where to put the the limited kind of resources
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that we've got and is it go out on the road and
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Spend the money that way is it to have some amazing
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digital strategy video all of these things and
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try to really reach an audience outside of New
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Zealand and I do think that that is probably
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the more sensible thing and I'm excited about
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creating and yeah going on the road can be awesome
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and it can also be really you need to be in the
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right place to really make it work for you and
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not be just a huge and yeah, it'll be interesting
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to see what we end up going with, but yeah, lots
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of new music. I feel like as an artist, present
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day, as opposed to 2024, as opposed to 1994,
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or how musicians and songwriters went about their
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day -to -day business in the 70s and 80s, man,
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there's a lot sitting on your shoulders. You
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got to wake up every day and realize, Well, shoot,
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I better generate some new content on my social
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media channels. I got people I got a reply to.
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And there's just so much kind of frontline engagement
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with your audience that just didn't exist before.
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How challenging is that where you're not just
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writing, you're not just performing and recording,
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but it's just almost this this never ending list
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of you know, processes that you have to run through.
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I think I've got a few thoughts here. I think
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every person trying to operate in a modern business
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environment has that same struggle, but where
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they've got a... basically be active to be seen
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and you lose relevancy really quickly and platforms
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change, new methods come along. The thing that
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was working before isn't the thing that works
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tomorrow. And so there's a constant change, which
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I think that can be a hard thing to come to peace
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with is that you can't just kind of sit and forget
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and just do one thing. So there's a constant,
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your strategy has to be a strategy of constantly
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evolving. I have seen and I've felt, I've felt
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small versions of it myself where I just start,
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I guess, pulling away from being active because
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it does just feel like there's too much to do.
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And in the past, the label, a big major label
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and maybe for the biggest, you know, the biggest
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artists in the world. They would still do this
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where there's enough resource around them to
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outsource that job and this job and that job
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and like I don't expect Ed Sheeran's written
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a Facebook post for the last 12 years and Since
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since he really got picked up and even then who
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knows I don't but Yeah, that's it's just another
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thing that you have to be across The pros and
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cons of it is that now? With the platforms we
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have if you can manage to cut through you can
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reach billions of people at really no cost to
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yourself, whereas to go down that major label
00:26:09.849 --> 00:26:14.430
path now, it really still is spend a ton of money,
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gather enough, I guess, momentum and groundswell
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and hope that it picks up and it doesn't always
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do that. Yeah, I guess there's never been a better
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time than now to be an artist like yourself.
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I feel that. Yeah, I do. I think that that's
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true. I think that to lament the old days and
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that people used to buy CDs and used to listen
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to vinyl and have great sound systems and not
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just be listening on the earbuds. It's not really
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looking at the big picture. You couldn't really
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record a CD 30 years ago and have anyone know
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about it unless you had all of these other things
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in play. And those were... They weren't easy
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to come by. I think anyone can create anything
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.720
now and that's amazing. It just means you've
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.299
got a different challenge. It's not just the
00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:10.819
creative thing. It's how do I create some noise
00:27:10.819 --> 00:27:15.559
around it? Right. I also want to say that speaking
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.660
of never been a better time than now for reaching
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an audience. When I was a teenager, everyone
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had a tendency to kind of put themselves in little
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.119
boxes. There was the punk rock guys. There was
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:31.680
the hip -hop and R &B crowd. There was the country
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crowd. There was the metal crowd. And a little
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.819
cross -pollination, but really not a lot. But
00:27:39.819 --> 00:27:43.500
I feel like today, kids are interested in listening
00:27:43.500 --> 00:27:45.920
to all different types of music. They're not
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.380
satisfied to just stay in one department there.
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.019
Do you meet people who are like their bread and
00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:55.819
butter is hip -hop, but they connect with your
00:27:55.819 --> 00:28:02.190
sound? Yes, definitely. I would say that New
00:28:02.190 --> 00:28:06.549
Zealand does a couple of things as its core basis
00:28:06.549 --> 00:28:11.309
of what works here. And that includes reggae,
00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:14.950
dub. There's a little bit of a hip hop overlay
00:28:14.950 --> 00:28:18.569
there as well. But the singer -songwriter rock
00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:22.509
thing has a lot less of an obvious home here
00:28:22.509 --> 00:28:25.150
than in other places. But I would generally say
00:28:25.150 --> 00:28:29.480
that people... people's variety of tastes is
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.400
probably higher than it's ever been. And most
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.920
people I know, most people that like music and
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.420
most musicians just have a ton of things, you
00:28:37.420 --> 00:28:39.619
know, it's almost like it's mood based listening
00:28:39.619 --> 00:28:42.619
now. And I think I read something around that
00:28:42.619 --> 00:28:45.160
genre playlist. It's not genre playlisting anymore.
00:28:45.339 --> 00:28:48.079
It's mood playlisting. So people want to... they'll
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go to how they want to feel or how they want
00:28:50.900 --> 00:28:54.460
music to amplify their current situation. So
00:28:54.460 --> 00:28:57.220
a classic one here would be like a Kiwi barbecue
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playlist. It's not actually about music that,
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.440
I don't know, barbecue just describes the mood
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.200
of sitting around having a beer and in the sun,
00:29:05.259 --> 00:29:08.160
maybe going to the beach. And so if your song
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.119
touches into that space, it's a lot easier. This
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.700
is what I read how Spotify is kind of operating
00:29:14.700 --> 00:29:18.559
now. Yeah. If you can make your song match a
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.920
mood, you can have a lot easier time of being
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.740
discovered on these platforms. Now you're my
00:29:24.740 --> 00:29:27.500
first guest from New Zealand. Um, I've had Dan
00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:30.500
Brody from Melbourne, Australia a couple of months
00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:33.420
ago. Maybe it's been that long. So you're from,
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.740
is it Taupo, if I pronounced that correctly?
00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:38.920
Close, that was pretty good. I live there, it's
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.559
Taupo, and I lived there for about four years.
00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:45.180
I actually live a couple of hours north of there
00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:48.779
now in a place called Mount Maunganui, and it's
00:29:48.779 --> 00:29:51.099
right on the beach, and it's in what's called
00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:55.299
the Bay of Plenty. We're about an hour from Hobbiton,
00:29:55.700 --> 00:29:57.900
where Lord of the Rings, where Hobbiton was filmed.
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.299
But yeah, I grew up not too far from here and
00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:04.819
it's definitely one of the beachier, sunnier,
00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:08.920
warmer parts of the country. It's good. And I
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.380
understand you recently got engaged. Yes, I did.
00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:16.539
Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, no, that was
00:30:16.539 --> 00:30:18.980
an awesome way to end. We had a trip overseas
00:30:18.980 --> 00:30:22.119
and that was the perfect way to end it. Where
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.299
do you like to travel when you get some time
00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:28.809
and opportunity to go? different places. Do you
00:30:28.809 --> 00:30:32.750
have a favorite vacation spot or place that you've
00:30:32.750 --> 00:30:36.170
been? Not really not a favorite sort of place
00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:39.369
that we've gone read like more than once but
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I will say Kiwis have quite a strong connection
00:30:44.089 --> 00:30:47.509
to the UK and we've got like a easy kind of work
00:30:47.509 --> 00:30:50.670
visa thing there so a really classic thing to
00:30:50.670 --> 00:30:54.589
do as Kiwis kind of mid to late 20s, they'll
00:30:54.589 --> 00:30:57.769
go and live over in the UK for two to three years.
00:30:58.710 --> 00:31:01.569
We got the visa and we went over there thinking
00:31:01.569 --> 00:31:03.430
we were going to set up and maybe live there.
00:31:03.789 --> 00:31:07.049
And in the end, we bought a camper van and we
00:31:07.049 --> 00:31:10.130
lived in that. We just did the summer, came back
00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:12.730
here for summer, went back over there and lived
00:31:12.730 --> 00:31:16.950
in this camper van in Scotland. We had five amazing
00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:21.140
weeks there back down into Europe. Island has
00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:23.279
been awesome. I've been there a few times, but
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.599
Portugal was the place that we probably loved
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.059
the most and yeah, lived in our van down there
00:31:30.059 --> 00:31:33.420
for probably five or six weeks. And it was amazing.
00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:37.339
Do you feel, obviously people who have listened
00:31:37.339 --> 00:31:39.240
to this podcast are like, okay, here he goes.
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.740
He's just going down the rabbit hole. Do you
00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:48.779
feel like, the minimalistic lifestyle, or if
00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:52.000
you go on a journey like that and traveling,
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.420
does it allow for more creativity when you're
00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:57.980
just, like I said, traveling and sleeping in
00:31:57.980 --> 00:32:04.400
a van? It could. I'd say it's personality dependent.
00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:08.160
And the time thing, I think everything's like
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.339
kind of seasonal if you've been in this kind
00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:15.000
of... digital, urban, intense environment. Like
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.980
it's only natural that offsetting that with not
00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:21.859
having all of the things and lower stimulation.
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.140
It's just like... It's kind of like a breath
00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:27.000
of fresh air or something and you're like, oh
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.039
man. And then by the end of about four or five
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.759
months of it, we were craving being back. Like
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.339
that was almost too long. So yeah, I'd say it's
00:32:39.339 --> 00:32:43.539
not the environment in which I get creative and
00:32:43.539 --> 00:32:45.420
especially that traveling thing, but it's the
00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:48.220
environment that I get inspired. And so like
00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.819
going and seeing new things every day, reading,
00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.309
incredible history, scenery. Just being in places
00:32:54.309 --> 00:32:56.630
with stories that you haven't heard and like
00:32:56.630 --> 00:33:00.890
perspective changing histories, that sort of
00:33:00.890 --> 00:33:04.150
stuff informs a lot. And then I come home and
00:33:04.150 --> 00:33:06.829
I'm here and I've built this studio that I love
00:33:06.829 --> 00:33:12.069
and I'm really excited to just get to unpacking
00:33:12.069 --> 00:33:15.390
all of this new sort of information and finding
00:33:15.390 --> 00:33:18.789
ways to make it, yeah, I guess to tell a story
00:33:18.789 --> 00:33:22.329
or to put my spin on it. Coming right back to
00:33:22.329 --> 00:33:26.150
your current sound that you've achieved on late
00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:30.009
night poetry and listening to the prior releases,
00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:33.849
the prior singles. I just feel like you're very
00:33:33.849 --> 00:33:37.049
comfortable in your sound now. Not that you weren't
00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:40.369
on like, you know, chaos eyes, the water went
00:33:40.369 --> 00:33:43.170
away EP, but I feel like you're really doing
00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:45.589
exactly what you want to put out there. Like
00:33:45.589 --> 00:33:48.250
you've settled into this straight ahead. I love
00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:50.470
sometimes just hearing straight ahead, rock and
00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:53.849
roll. And Man Don't Cry, like I said, it just
00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:58.150
sounds like a live song. It's built for a festival
00:33:58.150 --> 00:34:02.450
atmosphere. And Late Night Poetry, that's kind
00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:07.750
of a repeat song for me as well. I like the percussion.
00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:11.150
You seem to pay attention to the percussion element
00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:15.449
of your songs. I don't want to bounce around
00:34:15.449 --> 00:34:17.510
too much here, but there's what I would consider
00:34:17.510 --> 00:34:20.199
an epic song, probably... Yeah, if I had to pick
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.840
one out by your hand, the final song on Water
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:27.019
Went Away EP, that's like the real experimental,
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.719
it gets a little chaotic at times and it really
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.579
builds beautifully. Yeah. Yeah, I loved that
00:34:34.579 --> 00:34:38.480
song and I recorded that myself and I had a friend
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.119
in the States, actually in Austin, he recorded
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.820
the drums and sent them over and when all the
00:34:43.820 --> 00:34:46.400
pieces fell in to play, I'd sort of mapped out
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.630
a part for him to play and gave him that. And
00:34:49.630 --> 00:34:52.010
it was meant to be sort of just a closing track
00:34:52.010 --> 00:34:56.670
and live. That was a huge song, but the recording
00:34:56.670 --> 00:34:59.449
really just didn't connect at all in any way
00:34:59.449 --> 00:35:02.210
at all. It's my lowest played song on all platforms
00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:05.070
and it gets next to no plays, but it's kind of
00:35:05.070 --> 00:35:07.849
like this little secret. well -kept secret I
00:35:07.849 --> 00:35:10.809
suppose and I hear that particularly the ending
00:35:10.809 --> 00:35:13.670
and it's it's exactly what I wanted to do and
00:35:13.670 --> 00:35:15.670
the mood I wanted to create and the feeling I
00:35:15.670 --> 00:35:18.050
wanted to create so yeah I'm really proud of
00:35:18.050 --> 00:35:20.809
it and it's not impossible that I'll rerecord
00:35:20.809 --> 00:35:22.889
that with some better production values at some
00:35:22.889 --> 00:35:25.750
stage we'll yeah we'll see I think it may be
00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:28.469
the longest song clocking in a little over four
00:35:28.469 --> 00:35:31.610
minutes for coming up on five minutes and maybe
00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:35.170
that's yeah I do like how most of your songs
00:35:35.170 --> 00:35:38.050
are kind of You're in and out in and out but
00:35:38.050 --> 00:35:42.909
it gets it gets the punch in Yeah, I I do feel
00:35:42.909 --> 00:35:45.929
on my podcast sometimes it it gets a little long
00:35:45.929 --> 00:35:48.050
in the tooth and I'm trying to work on that.
00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:52.829
It's a personal flaw of mine Sometimes people,
00:35:52.829 --> 00:35:55.869
you know, if you like a baseball here in the
00:35:55.869 --> 00:35:58.690
states and you don't if you like a 15 inning
00:35:58.690 --> 00:36:01.630
ball game maybe I have some listeners that enjoy
00:36:01.630 --> 00:36:06.070
the carrying on on here, but Yeah, I do like
00:36:06.070 --> 00:36:10.329
that your songs are really to the point and it's,
00:36:10.369 --> 00:36:14.650
you either want to hear it back to back or they
00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:18.110
just kind of, it gets you fired up. Dan, I guess
00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:20.030
one other question or a couple other questions.
00:36:20.489 --> 00:36:24.130
Do you have influences that are maybe that you've
00:36:24.130 --> 00:36:25.989
carried with you for a long time? Is there an
00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:28.929
artist that's just a top of the list favorite
00:36:28.929 --> 00:36:34.929
for you or top three? Yeah, I've had a variety
00:36:34.929 --> 00:36:37.650
of influences, man. Like I've gone through such
00:36:37.650 --> 00:36:41.449
different phases musically from like really like
00:36:41.449 --> 00:36:45.409
hard rock and metal to acoustic singer songwriter
00:36:45.409 --> 00:36:48.849
folk stuff from the 60s and 70s. And it's always,
00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:52.570
I think it's always been about the song and why
00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:55.409
the song exists. It's not, I don't just create
00:36:55.409 --> 00:36:57.730
music just so I can have music out in the world.
00:36:57.849 --> 00:37:00.130
It's like, I feel like this thing needs to exist
00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.559
and, or this... needs to be said or whatever
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.639
it is. And for that reason, Springsteen has always
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.980
been there or thereabouts. He's such an easy
00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:13.619
person to point to because the songs, a lot of
00:37:13.619 --> 00:37:16.400
his, the source material and the things he talks
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.980
about is there's an overlap with, I guess, the
00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:21.079
tone in the music and the sound of the music.
00:37:21.659 --> 00:37:25.340
So, but yeah, there's also a lot of like more
00:37:25.340 --> 00:37:28.239
modern soul and hip hop artists as well that
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.639
I take a lot away from of just listening to this
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.940
album Malibu by Anderson Park on I've got the
00:37:36.940 --> 00:37:39.820
vinyl and I just listen to it and man the ability
00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:43.659
to communicate in that art form I'm really jealous
00:37:43.659 --> 00:37:46.900
of that art form because he doesn't necessarily
00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:49.699
have to abide by like a melodic structure in
00:37:49.699 --> 00:37:53.079
the way that he raps and so you can just It's
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.940
just such a different way to communicate and
00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:59.360
there's almost a lot less boundaries in it. So
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.039
yeah, I've been listening to that and it's just
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.940
really liberating. There's a couple of Kiwi similar
00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:07.000
style acts. Avondale Bowling Club is one that
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.119
he's put out an album recently and it's just
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.239
a phenomenal art form. And these many, and I
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.000
love that there's such a variety of ways to communicate
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.900
stories and feelings. I want to kind of pluck
00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:23.599
one song here from the slack tide EP going way
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:31.460
back to 2019 lifeline The song on here For me,
00:38:31.460 --> 00:38:35.619
it reminds me of Johnny Lang did this this record
00:38:35.619 --> 00:38:40.619
about 25 years ago wander this world and I Okay,
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.579
that's got some of that Johnny Lang flair for
00:38:43.579 --> 00:38:45.420
me personally. I think everybody connects with
00:38:45.420 --> 00:38:49.030
songs differently But I love it. It's real soulful.
00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:52.449
Oh, cool. Yeah. I think that that was the first
00:38:52.449 --> 00:38:56.650
proper single I put out. And to that point, I
00:38:56.650 --> 00:39:00.550
was really connecting with Gary Clark Jr. And
00:39:00.550 --> 00:39:06.289
I love Keb Mo. He'd be in that. Yeah, certainly
00:39:06.289 --> 00:39:09.909
his first couple albums are more folky singer
00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:13.389
-songwriter blues. And so, yeah, a wide variety
00:39:13.389 --> 00:39:16.900
of stuff. I thought that that's where I was kind
00:39:16.900 --> 00:39:20.460
of going, but as my songwriting has just evolved
00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:22.800
and the textures and the sounds that I really
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.380
love, it's pulled me back towards more of a,
00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:28.880
I guess, a rock songwriter sound as opposed to
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:33.320
that bluesy kind of swampy, gritty thing. Still
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:38.300
love it though. Well, Dan, where can folks, where
00:39:38.300 --> 00:39:41.219
can they see you performing in the next few weeks?
00:39:41.219 --> 00:39:43.320
Because I do have a few listeners in New Zealand.
00:39:44.469 --> 00:39:46.150
Hopefully they listen to the show and hopefully
00:39:46.150 --> 00:39:50.210
they're close to where you're performing. Yeah,
00:39:50.210 --> 00:39:52.730
the only show that I've got locked in is this
00:39:52.730 --> 00:39:55.869
band show. It's called Tōtara Street in Mt. Maunganui.
00:39:56.210 --> 00:40:00.409
And that's on Friday, the 8th of March. And yeah,
00:40:00.809 --> 00:40:03.530
the plans for the rest of the year, there's been
00:40:03.530 --> 00:40:05.409
talk of maybe doing some shows in the States.
00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:08.429
There's been talk of maybe some in the UK. And
00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:11.670
so, yeah, I guess the best thing to do is probably
00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:15.409
jump on my website and there'll be like a mailing
00:40:15.409 --> 00:40:18.170
list sign up kind of thing that as soon as these
00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:20.510
dates are sorted out and what it looks like,
00:40:20.750 --> 00:40:23.409
then yeah, people can stay in the loop, which
00:40:23.409 --> 00:40:26.730
is cool. Well, you know, on Facebook or even
00:40:26.730 --> 00:40:30.769
on Instagram, when an artist announces dates,
00:40:31.590 --> 00:40:34.210
there's always those people that say, come to
00:40:34.210 --> 00:40:37.610
my town, come to my town. Yeah. So I'll put in
00:40:37.610 --> 00:40:40.769
a plug for Pensacola, Florida, if you ever make
00:40:40.769 --> 00:40:44.480
it. To the northern Gulf coast of Florida and
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:48.480
the states. Yeah, but obviously love to see you
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.059
Amazing man. Yeah, I've not actually been to
00:40:51.059 --> 00:40:55.340
Florida. I have been to Louisiana and Didn't
00:40:55.340 --> 00:40:58.179
quite get over to Florida, but I'd love to kind
00:40:58.179 --> 00:41:00.019
of travel that whole East Coast. Actually, that'd
00:41:00.019 --> 00:41:03.320
be awesome All right. Well Dan, this has been
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.380
spectacular. I hope you've enjoyed as much as
00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:08.239
I have Yeah, man. Thank you so much everybody
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.449
listening. I think this is your same They can
00:41:11.449 --> 00:41:14.409
find you at Dan Sharp music across most the channels.
00:41:14.409 --> 00:41:17.469
Is that right? Yeah, that's right. I'll include
00:41:17.469 --> 00:41:21.530
that in the show notes I guess one last question
00:41:21.530 --> 00:41:25.590
anything that you'd like to plug that you're
00:41:25.590 --> 00:41:31.980
listening to watching the the piece of film Content
00:41:31.980 --> 00:41:34.719
that I've found the most beautiful and I've gone
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.659
back to is actually a Disney show and or which
00:41:37.659 --> 00:41:40.860
is a Star Wars based thing now I'm not I like
00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:43.739
fantasy. I like sci -fi stuff I like all sorts
00:41:43.739 --> 00:41:46.119
of things, but there's something in there and
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.019
the Filming of that and the scripting of that
00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:52.099
and the storyboarding everything that it's it's
00:41:52.099 --> 00:41:55.960
just such a beautiful It's just it captures such
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:58.099
a beautiful struggle and yeah, I can't quite
00:41:58.099 --> 00:42:00.820
define it because I don't have the terms and
00:42:00.820 --> 00:42:04.460
I'm not like a huge film buff, but that has been
00:42:04.460 --> 00:42:07.239
a really beautiful, when I see things like that
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.340
being created, I'm excited to go see the new
00:42:09.340 --> 00:42:12.940
Dune movie because it's, I don't know, I just
00:42:12.940 --> 00:42:15.639
love seeing people's creative output. It's such
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.699
a beautiful epic scale. It just makes you think
00:42:18.699 --> 00:42:22.079
like, oh man, we... We can create and people
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.300
do create and we all should to some extent be
00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:27.760
creating something off our offering Do you know
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.880
what I mean? Yeah, absolutely Tapping everyone
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.860
who's listening everybody's got a special skill
00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:37.739
and For some of you that may be you're great
00:42:37.739 --> 00:42:40.059
with your hands. You can work on vehicles you
00:42:40.059 --> 00:42:45.380
can repair pipes or electrical components or
00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:47.800
you like to write songs or you used to like to
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.360
write songs if you've got a guitar that's been
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:55.099
sitting in the corner in the closet and You don't
00:42:55.099 --> 00:42:57.320
think your stuff's any good. Give it another
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.340
shot Give it another shot. Even if it doesn't
00:43:00.340 --> 00:43:03.219
matter if anybody else likes it if you like if
00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:06.119
you used to like to write Whether it's lyrics
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.739
or music or used to like to play drums. Give
00:43:08.739 --> 00:43:11.219
it another shot If you've got the time, you'll
00:43:11.219 --> 00:43:16.039
be you'll be happy that you did Yeah, then I
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.699
we talked about this beforehand and I don't want
00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:21.840
to to put you on the spot, but do you have a
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.840
song that you'd like to perform or do you have
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.559
the guitar handy? I can definitely perform a
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.340
song. And I do have a guitar handy. This is a
00:43:31.340 --> 00:43:37.179
new feature on the podcast and any of the musicians
00:43:37.179 --> 00:43:39.300
who have appeared previously and I didn't invite
00:43:39.300 --> 00:43:41.400
you to play, that's one of the reasons I asked
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:45.159
everybody to come back. Because I always figure
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.980
I'm gonna forget something. I'm not gonna ask
00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:48.460
you something that I should have asked you So
00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:50.260
I always like to have people back on a second
00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:54.440
time so we could Spruce it up. But yeah, Dan,
00:43:54.539 --> 00:43:58.719
what are you? What do you feel like playing tonight
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.619
I think tonight for me. I think it's still afternoon
00:44:01.619 --> 00:44:06.360
the next day for you It's yeah mid afternoon
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.599
I'll play a little a little bit of man. Don't
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.099
cry. Maybe just a verse in a chorus And this
00:44:13.099 --> 00:44:16.820
song was, yeah, as we talked about, it touches
00:44:16.820 --> 00:44:20.400
on some heavier themes. It really did come about
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.840
from just observing a guy that I knew reasonably
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:27.719
well, just not have the ability to kind of communicate.
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:33.239
And I just watched him struggle and he, yeah,
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.260
just needed some guidance as a younger human,
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.000
I think, and it just left him a little incapable
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.539
later. This is a song called Man Don't Cry and
00:44:43.539 --> 00:45:12.880
it goes like this. Walking down like his father
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:18.340
Walking out on his mother Broken arm when he's
00:45:18.340 --> 00:45:25.219
still his eyes Inside his eyes Is a place he
00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:35.079
tries to hide But there's no quarter By day he's
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:45.980
building an empire Betrayed Again by night He's
00:45:45.980 --> 00:45:50.619
breaking, he's faded A double -standing laugh
00:45:50.619 --> 00:46:18.940
and he wonders why The man don't Good stuff.
00:46:19.059 --> 00:46:21.360
Good stuff, Dan. Folks, if you haven't already,
00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:26.199
download the EP. Try it out. Man, don't cry.
00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:29.559
Late night poetry. We're going to preview a song
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.880
at the top of this episode when I go back to
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.880
publish the audio version. So another surprise
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:39.239
there. This has been fantastic, Dan. Great to
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.820
connect with you from about, I think, 19 hours
00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:46.480
time difference. Yeah. I'd love to come visit.
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.960
Your beautiful country in the next few years.
00:46:50.139 --> 00:46:52.179
Oh, absolutely. You'd love it. You'd love it.
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.380
Anything else? Anything about New Zealand? And
00:46:56.380 --> 00:47:00.739
I tried to pronounce the indigenous name. I don't
00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:02.380
know if I really want to try it again. I'll mess
00:47:02.380 --> 00:47:06.079
it up. But anything that you'd like to promote
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.679
about your side of the world? I think we're very,
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.219
very lucky here. We've got we're a little island
00:47:14.219 --> 00:47:17.599
tucked away from a lot of the big you know, the
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.099
challenges of the world. We've got our own sets
00:47:20.099 --> 00:47:22.760
of challenges, but Kiwis are generally pretty
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.280
resilient and pretty, pretty friendly people,
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.760
generally speaking. And yeah, traveling the world
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.719
definitely makes me appreciate New Zealand. And
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.820
yeah, I think things are a little bit simpler
00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:40.099
here at times, but it's yeah, it's a great place.
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.699
And on the other hand, I've loved being in bigger
00:47:43.699 --> 00:47:46.340
parts of the world where there's just Massive
00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:50.000
vibrancy and music scenes and stuff like we are
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.460
quite small here But it's it's a nice place to
00:47:52.460 --> 00:47:55.019
be in a nice place to create and yeah, I'm very
00:47:55.019 --> 00:47:58.780
grateful Well the last thing I I wrote this quote
00:47:58.780 --> 00:48:01.039
down I'm not sure where I pulled it from but
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.260
this is from you I always aspire to be authentic
00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:08.599
in the pursuit of something beautiful No, yeah,
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:13.500
I must have said that I Love it, Dan. Well, thanks
00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:17.420
for being here Best of luck to you in 2024 and
00:48:17.420 --> 00:48:19.699
can't wait to hear new music. Folks, check him
00:48:19.699 --> 00:48:23.440
out. Follow him on the socials and add his music
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.440
to your catalog. Create a Dan Sharp playlist.
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.039
Trust me, I would not steer you down the wrong
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.400
road. You're going to love it. Have a great rest
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.179
of day for you. It's winding down the evening
00:48:35.179 --> 00:48:38.420
for me. Hope to talk to you again soon, my friend.
00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:40.840
Awesome, man. Enjoy your night and thank you
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.219
so much for having me on. It's a real pleasure.
00:48:42.579 --> 00:48:44.880
So yeah, appreciate it. Thanks. Okay, Dan. That's
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.159
it for this week for the Dan Time Podcast. You
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.880
guys have a wonderful week and be good to your
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.400
people and be good to the folks outside of your
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.860
bubble. Share a smile with somebody as you pass
00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:59.920
them by. You never know how you can impact somebody
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:03.280
in a small way. Alright, we'll see you next Sunday
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.739
on the Dan Time Podcast.