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This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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day to do that. So it's going to be a
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little wet up and down the front range. Glad you're here.
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Three h three seven one three eight two five five
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the number d An five seven seven three nine to text.
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Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while
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I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that.
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And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as
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we like to say around here, but so much to
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talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with
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you in my business. You know, when we go to trial,
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obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty
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four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've
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been playing catch up today and it is amazing what
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has been going on out there, and you would think
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it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected.
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But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to
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lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle
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in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between
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President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions
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for you will be do you think it's staged at
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this point? And if so, to what end one way
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or the other? How do you think it does end?
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I mean, we all know it's going to end with
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a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen?
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Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
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text d A N five seven seven three nine. I've
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indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love
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Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just
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so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS.
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Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday
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mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning.
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And I always I make it a point in trial
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to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse,
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so I get there early, to be there when the
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door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think
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the line was at seven of jurors because they it
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turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial,
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and then they had a murder trial. That line went
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on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But
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so I'm walking up to the front door, and as
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an attorney, you know you can go in a side door.
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You can completely bypass the line, and that line all
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these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything
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else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at
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that door, I looked at that line, and of course
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I walked it seemed like two blocks down to the
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end of the line, and dutifully took my place at
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the end of the line, as I should have. That
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door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion,
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maybe for the das who work in the building, but
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the rest of us should have to go to the
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end of the line. And of course that is what
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I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case.
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And it was funny I walked in today and we
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have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've
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never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument.
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But it was a closing argument that required that honest,
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righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the
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case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that.
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Now, what's your stance on cameras in the courtroom, Dan, Oh,
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I think they should be there. Yeah, I think they Yeah,
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I think they should be there all the time.
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They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something
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the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him
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standard but he abused it and it's just say it
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a bad name.
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Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity?
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Would there be a likelihood that judges and attorneys would
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be playing to the cameras more?
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You know what I mean? No, that that's where itdo
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distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court
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cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd
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been in those trials, I'd tried a case with cameras
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in the courtroom, and it just especially in this day
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and age ran where you know, most of so many
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people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a
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big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've
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grown up with cameras everywhere, you know. For people older
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than that, then oh wow, there's a camera there everybody says, hey,
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you see the camera there. Now people are surprised if
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there's not a camera there. People assume everything they do
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is on cameras. So if Judge Edo had not messed
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up the OJ trial that way, then then cameras in
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the courtroom I think just would have been everywhere and
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generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to
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see it a little bit more. And now many of
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the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system
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that came in during COVID, and so it's easier to
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get a camera in the courtroom, and more and more
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trials are at least being televised that way, though it's
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not as good as having a TV camera in there.
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Do you think the Supreme Court of the United States
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will ever have cameras?
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Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already.
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The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now
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at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court.
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That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all
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those people, all those people work for the people, right,
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so the people have to have access to that. They
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have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to
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play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I
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don't think they would in your typical case anyway. So
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I look forward to the day when that is the norm.
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A couple of quick notes. Hugely important decision today from
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Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I
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think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion,
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I perused it. I haven't read it the way I
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would for one of my cases, or to really talk
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with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous
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opinion for the United States of America because we all
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know for this nation to be all that it was
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meant to be and all that it should be, we
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got to become color blind. I mean we've got to,
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and we're getting there. We're making huge strides. As much
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as some people try to create fake racial issues, there
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are still some real racial issues. But we got to
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become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's
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okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but
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not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges
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in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against
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people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes
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against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And
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so another important decision along those lines today and a
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real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened
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to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio,
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and then all of a sudden she doesn't get a
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promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody
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I think in this example this case happened to be lesbian,
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I believe, and then all of a sudden she gets
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demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll
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double check the case during a break gets the position
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over her, and she sues. And what happens is in
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the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's
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some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes
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got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're
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a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock
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Mountain time today, you had to meet a higher standard
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to be able to bring your case than if you
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happen to be a person of color and of course,
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the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on
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race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what
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your race is, even if you're white. So very very
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good decision today for the United States, and so glad
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it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder,
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and I know we're going to talk about a lot
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of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage
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being done at the moment. Is it part of a
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bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because
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the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some
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eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would
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really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated,
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who I'm sure has no clue because they have real
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lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in
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Colorado so out of control that they are actually and
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this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting
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illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to
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come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know,
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they know for a fact that among the illegals they
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are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are
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going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people.
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They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this
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terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you
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see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his
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visa and we know that he wants to go and
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he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as
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he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey,
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let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they
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passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a
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driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant,
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and the other things they've done to recruit they knew
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that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance
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some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And
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they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral,
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one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things
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that any public official, any elected official, any political party
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could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would
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have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who
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would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a
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terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy.
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Yet they recruited illegals here anyway they went. Think about
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how far out of their way they went to waive
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the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will
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protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going
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to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can
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use a nine year old I d yeah, that's how
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sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for
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this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But
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it does lead to the question why do you think
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they do it? And again my point the fix. I
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just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not.
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Others had the idea before you pass the law that says,
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all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and
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sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and
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sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law.
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You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
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And now back to the Dan capless Show podcast.
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Big of this bill.
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He know it better than almost anybody, and he never
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had a problem until right after you left head of
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you saw these samens you made about me, which I'm
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sure you can get for age.
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It's very fresh Ponte. He said the most beautiful.
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Things about and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
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but I'm sure that'll be next.
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But I'm I'm very disappointed in Ala and I've helped
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Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you
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think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is
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it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does
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it end? How much damage to the GOP or does
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it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three
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So if you just joined us, thank you. Were talking
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about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for
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the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even
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if it's a white person, very important for America, for
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all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about
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how once again this horror and boulder we saw over
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the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much
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more visible example of horrors going none all over the
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state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are
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actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that
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among those who are otherwise good people, there will be rapists,
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there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists,
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yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully
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the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror
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had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively
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recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are
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going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about
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the mentality they know. They know they are going to
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be horrors like this, not the exact form, but they
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know they are going to be horrors like this, and
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polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on.
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It is an acceptable casualty rate to them because they
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know they're not going to be the casualties, and nobody
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should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
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five the numbers. So what do you think of the
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trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with
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that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got
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a plan here, this is all going to work out.
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Or is this thing just spinning out of control and
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like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way,
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some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a
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little more President Trump on Elon.
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But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings
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of this bill better than almost anybody sitting.
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Here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
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He had no problem with it. All of a sudden
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he had a problem.
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And he only developed the problem when you found out
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that we're going to have to cut the ev mento,
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because that's bigions and billions of dollars.
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And it really is unfair. We want to have cars
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of all types electric. We want to have electric, but
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A gasoline combustion, we want to have different we want
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to have hybrids.
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We want to have all We want to be able
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to sell everything.
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And where that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it.
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It became a little bit different. And I can understand that.
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Yeah, So I mean, just to get your take on that,
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I think it's unhealthy right now. I think it's unhealthy
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for the GOP. I think it's unhealthy for all of
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us who have Tesla in our for one case, right though,
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if I give you a stock tip to the exact opposite,
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that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm
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probably ryan. I'm probably going to go out and buy
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some more Tesla, you know, because I think it was
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down what fourteen percent today? Oh well, yeah, it's yeah,
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very good to me over the years, and I expect
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it's going to be very good continuing into the future,
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you know, in a large part because of Elon Musk.
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And but here's the thing, why is this all really happening? Mile?
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The best take I have on this is that Elon Musk,
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for his own business maybe even personal reasons, right now,
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he needs separation from President Trump. I wish it wasn't happening.
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I think he was very helpful to getting Trump elected.
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been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He
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can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country.
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And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally
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and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if
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he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I
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think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's
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playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star
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Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out
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how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or
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whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think
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Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation
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from President Trump, and the only way he can do
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that is through some sort of really ugly spot.
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This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see
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this coming, and I think the thing that separates it
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from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is
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called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a
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few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is
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this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and
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logs have not been released is because Trump's in them.
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I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a
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bridge too far. And I think as a line he
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crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring.
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It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So
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at this point it might just be what it appears
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on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still
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think the starting point for all of this right because
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it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk
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felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla.
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In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably
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personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes
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to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that,
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and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that
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as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second,
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that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of
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negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all
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know it. If he was, yep, we would have known
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it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the
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twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and
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center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration.
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That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy
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that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump,
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but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way.
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You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think,
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was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago
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employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump
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banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may
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show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney,
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you know a broken clock. You know what they say,
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right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this.
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Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term.
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I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard
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to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity,
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that's what he is.
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I mean, he's got a he has a star in
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Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard.
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I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,
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it seems like an oversight.
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By the way, what's going on.
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He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States,
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and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal.
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I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's
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how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and
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he is charming, and to the people who like him,
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they think he's funny, too great.
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Many others they don't.
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And so when he is finished, and he will be finished,
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they're going to have to go looking for someone who
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can deliver the message that he delivered with the same
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kind of charisma, and they don't have.
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That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the
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Dan Capla ship.
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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon
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crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release
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him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you
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can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood.
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So how does it end? Where does it end? I
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think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation,
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which may be behind the scenes because of my theories.
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Right at the starting point for all of this is
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Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and
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I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe
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for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and
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I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously
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false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably
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mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told
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Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to
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help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump.
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So I think that's what drove all this. How much
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damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable,
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because I do think Musk was very important and getting
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the president reelected. I don't think any of us will
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ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets
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elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love
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your take on that. I think he probably does, but
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I think it's a lot closer, and I think that
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Elon Musk was in a position to be such a
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game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP
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candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this,
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so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously,
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we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood
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on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and
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the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly,
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but I use it here because it's true. And it's
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not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across
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the state, in lots of cases that we never even
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hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped
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by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally.
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And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming
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here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a
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small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high
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a percentage. And that's the point is that Polis and
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the Democrats know when they're out actively recruiting, and that's
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what they're doing with these laws, waving the banner, actively
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recruiting people here illegally to come to Colorado that there's
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going to be a certain percentage of a rapist. They
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know when they pass these laws that it will lead
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to Colorado women being raped, it will lead to Colorado
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people being murdered, It'll be lead to Colorado people being
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unnecessarily slaughtered on the roadways. They know it may lead
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to terrorism, and they do it anyway, all for their
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own political gain. I mean that not every political difference
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is a moral difference. This is profoundly immoral what they've
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been doing because they know the price of the political
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benefit they get from attracting illegals to Colorado is going
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to be real, live innocent people raped, murdered in this case,
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set on fire, and they recruit anyway. Okay, you think
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ran is They're going to come a point is something
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like this horror Boulder at tipping point where voters' eyes
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get opened and they say, no, no, we can't do
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this anymore. Even if I don't like the Republicans, we
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can't do this anymore.
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Well, and thanks for teeing up that segue potentially for
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me here. But you gotta hear the words of film
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none the Wiser on CNN with John Berman on this
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very issue.
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It will knock your socks off, and not in a
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good way.
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Yeah, yeah, and you know, fascinating. I'm glad you flagged
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that sound this morning because Wiser, now, if he's serious
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about trying to compete in the governor's race, and I
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don't think he is. I think he's just positioning to
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try to have enough leverage to get Bennett's Senate seat
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from Bennett when they all assume Bennett wins the governor's race.
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Seems like some chicken countant to me. But yeah, here's
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what Wiser had to say in part. Let me first
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ask you about that federal decision to detain the family
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and apparently very shortly to remove them from the United States.
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What is your view of that.
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My view is it's critical that our immigration system work
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under the rule of law, according everyone due process of law.
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Expedite and removal is a rare, but it's a constitutional procedure.
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The critical fact of our immigration system is we have
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a backlog of over a million people who've gone through
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procedures like this who haven't yet actually been deported. That's
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where our focus should be when we talk about immigration.
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Well, what the hell's he talking about? He acknowledges expedited
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is constitutional. How can you ever get a more obvious
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need for expedited than the family of a terrorist, who
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in the right mind would want to leave mare. First,
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they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. And how in
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the world, and we got to get to the bottom
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of this, how in the world did the Polish slash
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Biden administrations leave him here after he legally tried to
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buy a gun? I thought that was their holy grail. Right,
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we have to have all these kids unnecessarily slaughtered in
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schools because the Democrats. The Democrats hate people with the gun,
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good guys and girls with the gun, more than they
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love children. So we can't have good guys and girls
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with guns in schools protecting the kids from mass shooters
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because Democrats hate guns above all. But they're going to
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let illegal immigrants have guns. How was he allowed to stay?
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Some more wiser here by the way, that first answer,
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I think a very not ready for prime time kind
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of answered. And you would support that removal if it
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goes forward under due process.
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The important part about your process is if someone has
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a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim
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for asylum, that's a threatened that's going to get evaluated
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by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration
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system should work. If you work based on the facts,
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based on the law, it shouldn't be targeting people in
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ways that are hap hazard, in ways that deny you process,
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or in ways that are based on fear, not based
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on fact.
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How can anybody with a straight face try to make
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that argument. Wait a second, The father and the family
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just went up to Boulder to mass murder people. You
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know that is a family which has had a terrorist
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in the middle of the family as the head of
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the household. What sane person could argue for a second
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that that family should be allowed to stay. Are you
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saying this is hap hazard or based on fear.
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This is a procedure that's been used before, an expot
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at a procedure, And the point is they may have
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a claim for asylum, they may not. That'll get decided
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by the data process, and that's how it should work.
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You know what that tells you that there's real hope
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for the GOP in Colorado. Not because he's going to
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be the DEM nominee he's not right, but because it
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shows you how in the grip of the psycho crazy
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far left radicals with big money, the Colorado Democratic Party
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is including our own attorney general because really, I mean,
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this guy clerk for US Supreme Court justices. He can't
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possibly believe what he's saying, but he's got to appeal
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to that crazy fringe far left that controls the party here,
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so he's willing to say that stuff. You know, it
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creates a much more dangerous state. But the silver lining
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is it gives the GOP and opening here Wow three
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h three someone three eight two five five the number
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text d A N five seven seven three nine in
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the end, be very interesting to see, Ryan. And there
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may have been some late breaking news on that I'm
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getting ready for my next job, but I haven't seen
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any anything definitive yet on who was it? Who was
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it who found out that this illegal immigrant tried to
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buy a gun and then didn't act on it? Is
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that Polis's Colorado government or did they act on it
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and then Biden decided to give him a pass the
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Biden administration?
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Or is it both.
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But we have got to get to the bottom of that.
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So let me get back to this Clooney thing for
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a minute. If you just joined us, Thank you, George
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Clooney obviously wrong about so much, and thank goodness because
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he helped Democrats lose. But this business about whether trump Ism,
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as he calls it, will last beyond this first term?
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Is he right about that? Do you think trump Ism
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lasts beyond this term?
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Don't think so. I think it'd be very hard to
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do it. Remember this, dol Trump is a celebrity, That's what.
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And then he goes on with his garbage choice. Second,
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how you could say the same thing about Reagan He
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ended up being one of the best US president and
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says Trump has been. But is he right? And I
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do want to launch on that when we come back,
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because I have some very strong feelings on this. I
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think the GOP, while in a very good position in
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some ways, is in very very dangerous territory in others,
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because I think there's a real danger that what Clooney
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is saying in this one case broken clocks right twice
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a day in this one case, he may well be
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right here In the Dankapla show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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And he never had a problem until right after you left.
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How have you saw these savans he made about me,
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which I'm sure you can get very it's very fresh.
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He said the most beautiful.
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Things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
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but I'm sure that'll be next.
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But I'm very disappointed. In a lot. I've helped you
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a lot, a lot.
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Yeah, it's gotten personal, that's for sure. Playing the Epstein
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art saying that that's why Trump won't release the Epstein files,
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because he's in them. And then we have a texter
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who says, Elon Mosk better hope that Donald Trump is
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in the Epstein filess or he's going to owe Donald
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Trump a lot of money.
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Was in.
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Musk is a smart guy. So this we know, right,
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We know two things for sure. One is that Trump
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did nothing wrong when it comes to Epstein. We know
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that to one hundred percent certainty because if he had
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we know it already, right who controlled the Epstein files,
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right the Biden administration. So yeah, we know that Trump
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did not do anything wrong when it came to Epstein.
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But his name probably does appear in the files in
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another context, such as when he told banned Epstein from
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mar A Lago because I think it was somebody in
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the spot said Epstein was acting inappropriate at least. So yes,
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uh Musk is protected because Trump is mentioned, but mentioned
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in a positive way. Is the way I believe all
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that's going to play out. Glad you're here. Three or
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three seOne, three, eight, two, five five the number A
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text or dan George Clooney is wrong. Little Marco can
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deliver the message, so can J. D. Carolyn Love it
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as well. And what we're talking about is George Clooney,
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who's wrong about virtually everything, maybe right about this when
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he says trump Ism will not last past the end
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of this term. I think this is a grave danger
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of enormous magnitude to the GOP everywhere in America because
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so many of these voters in twenty twenty four, just
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like sixteen, right, but twenty twenty four, so many of
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these voters were not Republican voters. They're Trump voters. We've
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been talking about it since election Day, and there is
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a grave danger that the GOP is not going to
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be able to hold on to enough of those to
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win the really close races, so that GOP has the
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opportunity now to win those voters over. But to assume
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they've won them over is way, way, way wrong. To
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assume they've won them over just because they voted Republican
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in the last election. No, so many were just voting
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for Trump. And we've seen examples of that, right since
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twenty sixteen, we've seen win a bull Senate race is lost,
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you know, because the candidates, you know, we're try to
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imitate Trump, et cetera. And that's that the voters wanted
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that from Trump. But there's only one Trump, Yes, So
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it's going to be very interesting to watch this, and
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I hope the GOP takes advantage of the gift Trump
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gave them, you know, the wins, the opportunity these years
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to convince the voters to stay with them when the
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president enters that last two years of his term and
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then when he's gone. Now, because of that opportunity and
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because of what the texture alludes to, and we've talked
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about a lot, right the enormous talent on the GOP bench.
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In terms of the White House, I think there is
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a tremendous opportunity to hold on to the White House
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because look at I mean, you've got jd You've got
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Marco Rubio, You've got other really talented people. The GOP
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is stacked. You look at the Democrats. I mean, Ryan,
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could you think of a single Democrat now other than
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I think Josh Shapiro's really talented to His problem is
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he's part of a party who's big money folks in
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leadership has become kind of anti Semitic. So that's a
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problem for their most talented guy, Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania. But
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beyond that, where's the talent on the Democrats side the GOP?
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It's overflowing. Dan, That's where I think George Clooney is
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exactly wrong. I mean, he has no knowledge, awareness, interest,
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or even curiosity about what's going on on our side
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of the ledger. He sees these other people and I
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would add Ronda Santas to that list the textas provided
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these are heavyweights in terms of the arena of idea
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and another one that would be formidable. But there are
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no Democrats that are reasonable rational. I mean John Fetterman,
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but he'll never get nominated for larger office in the
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Democratic Party, and Josh Shapiro can't because he's Jewish and
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it's an anti Semitic party.
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Now, yeah, and that's that's the problem they have right now.
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Is anybody good they will eat right, they'll kill him.
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They'll kill them in the crib. So that's that's the
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problem they have. But yes, but I think there's a
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separation between the White House and the rest of these
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races around the country in terms of will the Trump
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voters show up for GOP and that's where it gets
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more dangerous. But on the White House level, and listen, Clooney,
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he's like I say, he's wrong about virtually everything, but
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but I think it is literally true that that to
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a certain extent, he calls it trump Ism, right, it's
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it's make America great again. To a certain extent, there
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will be leakage when President Trump is done, no matter
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how good the candidate is. But I just think that
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that these conservative principles work. Donald Trump's been able to
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prove that. And it's not always purely conservative principles for him,
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but the conservative principles work. He's done tremendously with that
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America benefits from it, which makes it more likely then
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whether it's a JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron
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De Santis or somebody else that they'll never be exactly
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like Trump. They're never going to have that same appeal.
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There's only one man ever who would have that appeal,
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and that's Donald Trump. But they are in a position
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to take advantage of much of the base but then
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build on it with their own appeal.
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Trump is a unique phenomenon and it cannot be underestimated.
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That's why the Democrats lost to him twice is they
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underestimated him. You cannot do that, and you can't take
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him for granted. The energy that he generated, dan the rallies,
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I've never seen anything like in American politics. So you
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have Jdvance, you have Marco Rubio, you have Ron De Santis,
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you have many others that can articulate the message, and logically,
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left brain might do a better job of that than
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Trump even but the visceral emotional response that Trump in
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generated and people who never voted before to hold onto
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those voters is going to be a challenge.
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It is, I believe for purposes of the White House.
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The GOP is going to meet that challenge because of
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the enormous talent and how bad the Democrats are. When
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we start getting down to the state level, they really
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close races. That's where it gets scary for the GOP.
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And you've still got to keep your a game, you know,
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because even though the Democrats don't have any national talent,
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when you get down to individual state races and you
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start talking about popular Democrats within the state, maybe they're
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the lieutenant governor this or that, that's where you start
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getting into a different dynamics. So when we come back,
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lots to do in the next hour. Tremendous US Supreme
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Court decision today great for the entire country. We'll get
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into that. We'll touch on the bolder horror and the
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active recruitment of illegal immigrants to Colorado by Polists and
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the Democrats when they know some of those people are
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going to be rapist, murders and even
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This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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little wet up and down the front range. Glad you're here.
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Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while
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I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that.
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And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as
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we like to say around here, but so much to
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talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with
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you in my business. You know, when we go to trial,
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obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty
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four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've
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been playing catch up today and it is amazing what
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has been going on out there, and you would think
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it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected.
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But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to
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lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle
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in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between
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President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions
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for you will be do you think it's staged at
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this point? And if so, to what end one way
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or the other? How do you think it does end?
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I mean, we all know it's going to end with
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a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen?
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indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love
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Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just
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so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS.
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Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday
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mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning.
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And I always I make it a point in trial
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to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse,
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so I get there early, to be there when the
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door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think
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the line was at seven of jurors because they it
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turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial,
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and then they had a murder trial. That line went
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on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But
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so I'm walking up to the front door, and as
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an attorney, you know you can go in a side door.
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You can completely bypass the line, and that line all
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these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything
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else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at
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that door, I looked at that line, and of course
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end of the line, and dutifully took my place at
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the end of the line, as I should have. That
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door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion,
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the rest of us should have to go to the
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I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case.
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have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've
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never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument.
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righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the
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case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that.
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They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something
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the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him
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standard but he abused it and it's just say it
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a bad name.
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Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity?
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distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court
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cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd
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people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a
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big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've
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generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to
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the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system
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trials are at least being televised that way, though it's
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Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already.
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The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now
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at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court.
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That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all
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those people, all those people work for the people, right,
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so the people have to have access to that. They
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have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to
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play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I
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Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I
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think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion,
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I perused it. I haven't read it the way I
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would for one of my cases, or to really talk
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with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous
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opinion for the United States of America because we all
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know for this nation to be all that it was
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meant to be and all that it should be, we
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got to become color blind. I mean we've got to,
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as some people try to create fake racial issues, there
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are still some real racial issues. But we got to
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become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's
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okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but
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not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges
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in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against
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people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes
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against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And
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so another important decision along those lines today and a
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real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened
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to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio,
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promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody
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demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll
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double check the case during a break gets the position
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over her, and she sues. And what happens is in
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the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's
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some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes
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got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're
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a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock
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to be able to bring your case than if you
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happen to be a person of color and of course,
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the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on
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race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what
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your race is, even if you're white. So very very
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good decision today for the United States, and so glad
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it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder,
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of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage
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being done at the moment. Is it part of a
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bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because
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the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some
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eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would
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really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated,
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who I'm sure has no clue because they have real
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lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in
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Colorado so out of control that they are actually and
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this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting
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illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to
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come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know,
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they know for a fact that among the illegals they
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are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are
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going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people.
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They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this
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terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you
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see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his
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visa and we know that he wants to go and
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he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as
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he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey,
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let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they
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passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a
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driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant,
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and the other things they've done to recruit they knew
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that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance
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some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And
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they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral,
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one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things
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that any public official, any elected official, any political party
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could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would
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have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who
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would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a
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terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy.
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how far out of their way they went to waive
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the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will
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protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going
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to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can
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sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for
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this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But
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it does lead to the question why do you think
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they do it? And again my point the fix. I
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just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not.
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all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and
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sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and
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sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law.
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He know it better than almost anybody, and he never
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had a problem until right after you left head of
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sure you can get for age.
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but I'm sure that'll be next.
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Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you
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think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is
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it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does
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it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three
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about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for
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the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even
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if it's a white person, very important for America, for
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all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about
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how once again this horror and boulder we saw over
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the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much
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more visible example of horrors going none all over the
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state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are
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actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that
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there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists,
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yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully
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the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror
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had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively
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recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are
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going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about
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the mentality they know. They know they are going to
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polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on.
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should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
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five the numbers. So what do you think of the
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trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with
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that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got
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a plan here, this is all going to work out.
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like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way,
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some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a
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little more President Trump on Elon.
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of this bill better than almost anybody sitting.
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he had a problem.
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that we're going to have to cut the ev mento,
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because that's bigions and billions of dollars.
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of all types electric. We want to have electric, but
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that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm
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been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He
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can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country.
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And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally
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and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if
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he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I
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think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's
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playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star
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Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out
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how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or
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whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think
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Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation
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from President Trump, and the only way he can do
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that is through some sort of really ugly spot.
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This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see
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this coming, and I think the thing that separates it
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from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is
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called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a
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few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is
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this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and
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logs have not been released is because Trump's in them.
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I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a
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bridge too far. And I think as a line he
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crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring.
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It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So
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at this point it might just be what it appears
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on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still
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think the starting point for all of this right because
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it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk
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felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla.
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In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably
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personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes
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to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that,
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and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that
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as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second,
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that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of
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negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all
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know it. If he was, yep, we would have known
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it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the
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twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and
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center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration.
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That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy
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that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump,
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but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way.
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You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think,
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was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago
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employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump
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banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may
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show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney,
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you know a broken clock. You know what they say,
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right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this.
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Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term.
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I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard
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to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity,
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that's what he is.
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I mean, he's got a he has a star in
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Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard.
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I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,
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it seems like an oversight.
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By the way, what's going on.
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He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States,
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and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal.
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I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's
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how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and
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he is charming, and to the people who like him,
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they think he's funny, too great.
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Many others they don't.
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And so when he is finished, and he will be finished,
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they're going to have to go looking for someone who
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can deliver the message that he delivered with the same
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kind of charisma, and they don't have.
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That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the
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Dan Capla ship.
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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon
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crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release
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him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you
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can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood.
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So how does it end? Where does it end? I
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think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation,
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which may be behind the scenes because of my theories.
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Right at the starting point for all of this is
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Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and
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I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe
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for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and
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I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously
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false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably
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mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told
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Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to
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help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump.
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So I think that's what drove all this. How much
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damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable,
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because I do think Musk was very important and getting
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the president reelected. I don't think any of us will
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ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets
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elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love
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your take on that. I think he probably does, but
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I think it's a lot closer, and I think that
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Elon Musk was in a position to be such a
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game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP
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candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this,
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so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously,
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we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood
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on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and
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the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly,
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but I use it here because it's true. And it's
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not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across
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the state, in lots of cases that we never even
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hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped
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by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally.
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And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming
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here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a
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small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high
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a percentage. And that's the point is that Polis and
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the Democrats know when they're out actively recruiting, and that's
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what they're doing with these laws, waving the banner, actively
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recruiting people here illegally to come to Colorado that there's
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going to be a certain percentage of a rapist. They
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know when they pass these laws that it will lead
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to Colorado women being raped, it will lead to Colorado
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people being murdered, It'll be lead to Colorado people being
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unnecessarily slaughtered on the roadways. They know it may lead
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to terrorism, and they do it anyway, all for their
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own political gain. I mean that not every political difference
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is a moral difference. This is profoundly immoral what they've
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been doing because they know the price of the political
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benefit they get from attracting illegals to Colorado is going
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to be real, live innocent people raped, murdered in this case,
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set on fire, and they recruit anyway. Okay, you think
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ran is They're going to come a point is something
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like this horror Boulder at tipping point where voters' eyes
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get opened and they say, no, no, we can't do
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this anymore. Even if I don't like the Republicans, we
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can't do this anymore.
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Well, and thanks for teeing up that segue potentially for
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me here. But you gotta hear the words of film
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none the Wiser on CNN with John Berman on this
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very issue.
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It will knock your socks off, and not in a
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good way.
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Yeah, yeah, and you know, fascinating. I'm glad you flagged
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that sound this morning because Wiser, now, if he's serious
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about trying to compete in the governor's race, and I
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don't think he is. I think he's just positioning to
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try to have enough leverage to get Bennett's Senate seat
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from Bennett when they all assume Bennett wins the governor's race.
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Seems like some chicken countant to me. But yeah, here's
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what Wiser had to say in part. Let me first
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ask you about that federal decision to detain the family
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and apparently very shortly to remove them from the United States.
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What is your view of that.
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My view is it's critical that our immigration system work
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under the rule of law, according everyone due process of law.
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Expedite and removal is a rare, but it's a constitutional procedure.
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The critical fact of our immigration system is we have
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a backlog of over a million people who've gone through
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procedures like this who haven't yet actually been deported. That's
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where our focus should be when we talk about immigration.
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Well, what the hell's he talking about? He acknowledges expedited
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is constitutional. How can you ever get a more obvious
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need for expedited than the family of a terrorist, who
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in the right mind would want to leave mare. First,
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they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. And how in
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the world, and we got to get to the bottom
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of this, how in the world did the Polish slash
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Biden administrations leave him here after he legally tried to
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buy a gun? I thought that was their holy grail. Right,
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we have to have all these kids unnecessarily slaughtered in
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schools because the Democrats. The Democrats hate people with the gun,
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good guys and girls with the gun, more than they
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love children. So we can't have good guys and girls
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with guns in schools protecting the kids from mass shooters
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because Democrats hate guns above all. But they're going to
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let illegal immigrants have guns. How was he allowed to stay?
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Some more wiser here by the way, that first answer,
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I think a very not ready for prime time kind
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of answered. And you would support that removal if it
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goes forward under due process.
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The important part about your process is if someone has
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a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim
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for asylum, that's a threatened that's going to get evaluated
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by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration
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system should work. If you work based on the facts,
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based on the law, it shouldn't be targeting people in
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ways that are hap hazard, in ways that deny you process,
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or in ways that are based on fear, not based
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on fact.
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How can anybody with a straight face try to make
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that argument. Wait a second, The father and the family
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just went up to Boulder to mass murder people. You
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know that is a family which has had a terrorist
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in the middle of the family as the head of
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the household. What sane person could argue for a second
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that that family should be allowed to stay. Are you
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saying this is hap hazard or based on fear.
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This is a procedure that's been used before, an expot
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at a procedure, And the point is they may have
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a claim for asylum, they may not. That'll get decided
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by the data process, and that's how it should work.
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You know what that tells you that there's real hope
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for the GOP in Colorado. Not because he's going to
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be the DEM nominee he's not right, but because it
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shows you how in the grip of the psycho crazy
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far left radicals with big money, the Colorado Democratic Party
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is including our own attorney general because really, I mean,
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this guy clerk for US Supreme Court justices. He can't
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possibly believe what he's saying, but he's got to appeal
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to that crazy fringe far left that controls the party here,
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so he's willing to say that stuff. You know, it
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creates a much more dangerous state. But the silver lining
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is it gives the GOP and opening here Wow three
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the end, be very interesting to see, Ryan. And there
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may have been some late breaking news on that I'm
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getting ready for my next job, but I haven't seen
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any anything definitive yet on who was it? Who was
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it who found out that this illegal immigrant tried to
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buy a gun and then didn't act on it? Is
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that Polis's Colorado government or did they act on it
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and then Biden decided to give him a pass the
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Biden administration?
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Or is it both.
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But we have got to get to the bottom of that.
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So let me get back to this Clooney thing for
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a minute. If you just joined us, Thank you, George
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Clooney obviously wrong about so much, and thank goodness because
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he helped Democrats lose. But this business about whether trump Ism,
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as he calls it, will last beyond this first term?
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Is he right about that? Do you think trump Ism
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lasts beyond this term?
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Don't think so. I think it'd be very hard to
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do it. Remember this, dol Trump is a celebrity, That's what.
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And then he goes on with his garbage choice. Second,
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how you could say the same thing about Reagan He
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ended up being one of the best US president and
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says Trump has been. But is he right? And I
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do want to launch on that when we come back,
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because I have some very strong feelings on this. I
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think the GOP, while in a very good position in
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some ways, is in very very dangerous territory in others,
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because I think there's a real danger that what Clooney
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is saying in this one case broken clocks right twice
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a day in this one case, he may well be
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right here In the Dankapla show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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And he never had a problem until right after you left.
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How have you saw these savans he made about me,
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which I'm sure you can get very it's very fresh.
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He said the most beautiful.
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Things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
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but I'm sure that'll be next.
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But I'm very disappointed. In a lot. I've helped you
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a lot, a lot.
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Yeah, it's gotten personal, that's for sure. Playing the Epstein
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art saying that that's why Trump won't release the Epstein files,
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because he's in them. And then we have a texter
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who says, Elon Mosk better hope that Donald Trump is
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in the Epstein filess or he's going to owe Donald
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Trump a lot of money.
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Was in.
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Musk is a smart guy. So this we know, right,
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We know two things for sure. One is that Trump
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did nothing wrong when it comes to Epstein. We know
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that to one hundred percent certainty because if he had
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we know it already, right who controlled the Epstein files,
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right the Biden administration. So yeah, we know that Trump
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did not do anything wrong when it came to Epstein.
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But his name probably does appear in the files in
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another context, such as when he told banned Epstein from
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mar A Lago because I think it was somebody in
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the spot said Epstein was acting inappropriate at least. So yes,
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uh Musk is protected because Trump is mentioned, but mentioned
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in a positive way. Is the way I believe all
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that's going to play out. Glad you're here. Three or
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three seOne, three, eight, two, five five the number A
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text or dan George Clooney is wrong. Little Marco can
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deliver the message, so can J. D. Carolyn Love it
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as well. And what we're talking about is George Clooney,
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who's wrong about virtually everything, maybe right about this when
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he says trump Ism will not last past the end
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of this term. I think this is a grave danger
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of enormous magnitude to the GOP everywhere in America because
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so many of these voters in twenty twenty four, just
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like sixteen, right, but twenty twenty four, so many of
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these voters were not Republican voters. They're Trump voters. We've
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been talking about it since election Day, and there is
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a grave danger that the GOP is not going to
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be able to hold on to enough of those to
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win the really close races, so that GOP has the
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opportunity now to win those voters over. But to assume
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they've won them over is way, way, way wrong. To
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assume they've won them over just because they voted Republican
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in the last election. No, so many were just voting
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for Trump. And we've seen examples of that, right since
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twenty sixteen, we've seen win a bull Senate race is lost,
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you know, because the candidates, you know, we're try to
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imitate Trump, et cetera. And that's that the voters wanted
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that from Trump. But there's only one Trump, Yes, So
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it's going to be very interesting to watch this, and
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I hope the GOP takes advantage of the gift Trump
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gave them, you know, the wins, the opportunity these years
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to convince the voters to stay with them when the
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president enters that last two years of his term and
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then when he's gone. Now, because of that opportunity and
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because of what the texture alludes to, and we've talked
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about a lot, right the enormous talent on the GOP bench.
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In terms of the White House, I think there is
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a tremendous opportunity to hold on to the White House
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because look at I mean, you've got jd You've got
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Marco Rubio, You've got other really talented people. The GOP
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is stacked. You look at the Democrats. I mean, Ryan,
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could you think of a single Democrat now other than
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I think Josh Shapiro's really talented to His problem is
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he's part of a party who's big money folks in
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leadership has become kind of anti Semitic. So that's a
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problem for their most talented guy, Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania. But
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beyond that, where's the talent on the Democrats side the GOP?
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It's overflowing. Dan, That's where I think George Clooney is
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exactly wrong. I mean, he has no knowledge, awareness, interest,
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or even curiosity about what's going on on our side
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of the ledger. He sees these other people and I
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would add Ronda Santas to that list the textas provided
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these are heavyweights in terms of the arena of idea
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and another one that would be formidable. But there are
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no Democrats that are reasonable rational. I mean John Fetterman,
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but he'll never get nominated for larger office in the
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Democratic Party, and Josh Shapiro can't because he's Jewish and
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it's an anti Semitic party.
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Now, yeah, and that's that's the problem they have right now.
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Is anybody good they will eat right, they'll kill him.
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They'll kill them in the crib. So that's that's the
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problem they have. But yes, but I think there's a
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separation between the White House and the rest of these
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races around the country in terms of will the Trump
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voters show up for GOP and that's where it gets
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more dangerous. But on the White House level, and listen, Clooney,
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he's like I say, he's wrong about virtually everything, but
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but I think it is literally true that that to
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a certain extent, he calls it trump Ism, right, it's
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it's make America great again. To a certain extent, there
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will be leakage when President Trump is done, no matter
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how good the candidate is. But I just think that
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that these conservative principles work. Donald Trump's been able to
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prove that. And it's not always purely conservative principles for him,
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but the conservative principles work. He's done tremendously with that
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America benefits from it, which makes it more likely then
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whether it's a JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron
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De Santis or somebody else that they'll never be exactly
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like Trump. They're never going to have that same appeal.
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There's only one man ever who would have that appeal,
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and that's Donald Trump. But they are in a position
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to take advantage of much of the base but then
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build on it with their own appeal.
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Trump is a unique phenomenon and it cannot be underestimated.
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That's why the Democrats lost to him twice is they
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underestimated him. You cannot do that, and you can't take
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him for granted. The energy that he generated, dan the rallies,
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I've never seen anything like in American politics. So you
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have Jdvance, you have Marco Rubio, you have Ron De Santis,
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you have many others that can articulate the message, and logically,
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left brain might do a better job of that than
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Trump even but the visceral emotional response that Trump in
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generated and people who never voted before to hold onto
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those voters is going to be a challenge.
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It is, I believe for purposes of the White House.
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The GOP is going to meet that challenge because of
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the enormous talent and how bad the Democrats are. When
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we start getting down to the state level, they really
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close races. That's where it gets scary for the GOP.
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And you've still got to keep your a game, you know,
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because even though the Democrats don't have any national talent,
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when you get down to individual state races and you
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start talking about popular Democrats within the state, maybe they're
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the lieutenant governor this or that, that's where you start
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getting into a different dynamics. So when we come back,
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lots to do in the next hour. Tremendous US Supreme
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Court decision today great for the entire country. We'll get
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into that. We'll touch on the bolder horror and the
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active recruitment of illegal immigrants to Colorado by Polists and
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the Democrats when they know some of those people are
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going to be rapist, murders and even