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This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, I'll tell
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you this is one of the more fun and exciting
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things that I've ever had the chance to even think about.
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And that's when I got the word late on Friday
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night from John and Maria Castillo that their son Kendrick
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was now in the very first baby steps of the
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Catholic Churches canonization process. And it's a long road with
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a lot to be done. But how incredibly right this is,
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right Deck Kendrick, who's just this model of Christian love,
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laying down his life to save others and in so
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many other ways. I didn't know him, but from everything
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I've heard, just such a virtuous kids. So we're privileged
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to talk now with Reverend Patrick di Loretto. He's from
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Saint Mark Catholic Church in Highland's Ranch and also Cherry
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Creek grad Is that right, father?
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Yes?
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I am.
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Wow, that's awesome. What year? What year were you a
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Creek or did you graduate.
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I graduated from Cherry Creek in twenty eleven.
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Wow, well that is so cool.
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What's it like then to come back to your hometown
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and just be down the road in Highlands Ranch?
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Oh, it was quite a blessing of Bishop of Goboca
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signs me up here to the Highland's Ranch to be
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to be Aproca Viker at Saint Mark. And honestly, it's
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such a wonderful parish. I'm with a fantastic pastor who
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has been a great mentor to me over the past
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year that I've been here, and it's just been great
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to also be close to so many of my family
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members and friends who are up in the Denver area.
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Yeah, that just has to be so cool. And I've
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been telling folks since I talked to you yesterday that
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you're just so smart and so dialed in and so
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on top of all this, you know, how great for
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the church to have you. But thanks for being here
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today to talk about Sainthood's something that I've never studied
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before until you know, I heard from John and Marie
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on Friday night and I went on the internet like
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everybody else. It's like drinking out of a fire hose.
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Trying to learn as fast as I can, So would
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you be kind enough to just kind of give folks
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an overview as you did for me on the phone yesterday,
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of how this canonization process works from A to Z.
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Understanding that we're at the very first step right.
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Now, of course.
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Yeah. So the very first step is there has to
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be what's called a cult of veneration, which is the
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popular piety amongst the people of God to seek the
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intercession of a certain individual who has since gone to
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God and one of the ICCs. Okay, there seems to
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be a movement amongst the people of God to want
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this person to become a saint, and they the diocese
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will then or particular parish, as is our case, we'll
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start doing some culinary investigations into the individual and start
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seeing was this person actually, did they live a holy life,
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did they die in heroic circumstances? And if you have
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both of those things, then it becomes a case where
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it's referred to the diocese, and if the bishop or
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the governing body of bishops in a particular country like
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here in the United States it's the USCCB, the United
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States Confidence of Catholic Bishops. If they approve a certain cause,
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then the individual is immediately granted the title of servant
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of God. And then after that step it's taken to
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the Vatican and the Vatican will do a very very
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thorough investigation into the person's life. They will read everything
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the person's written, going back as far as I'm aware,
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at least the last sixteen years of their life before
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they die. If they had a journal, they would read
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through all of that. They would interview people who knew them,
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They would get testimonials of just family members and close
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relatives as well. It's like, okay, if we're looking at
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a heroic life or virtuous life, the Vatican is going
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to want to see a lot of evidence for that.
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And if the Vatican comes back with a decision that
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an individual lived a life of heroic virtue or offered
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their lives for the sake of others, then they would
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be granted the title of venerable, and that's venerable. Then
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the next stage is and that's saying the stage of
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venerable is saying, yes, this person was the life of
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heroic virtue. But still the Vatican hasn't formally said that
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the person is in heaven, that stage is when we
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get to there's I mean, there can be a moral
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certitude of somebody who's declared venerable. That okay, that probably ha,
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but the Church hasn't definitively said yes they are. Now
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once you get to the blessed stage, then there are
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two ways somebody could get to being a blessed is.
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One is that the Vatican has investigated and has confirmed
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that there is a miracle that can be attributed to
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the intercession of a particular individual. Or the other option
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is if a person has declared a martyr, that is
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that they gave their life in defense of the faith
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or in witness to Christ, or they just were their
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life was ended because somebody had a hatred for God.
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If that can be proved, such as the case of
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Maximilian Colby, the Church would grant them the title of
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martyr and they would become a blessed. And the final
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stage is saint. And saint is when the Church has
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confirmed that they have two miracles, and the Church says
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to the whole universal Church, so the church around the
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whole world, that yes, this is somebody who lived a
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holy life. Everyone in the Catholic Church ought to look
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to them as an example of hooness and as a
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person who you should emulate if you wish to obtain
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heaven yourself through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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So that's the brief rundown of each.
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Of the stags.
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Thank you and thank you for doing it so well.
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And concisely, let's talk a little bit about intercession. What
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does that mean to be asking Kendrick to intercede.
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Yeah, it's very much as if you would go to
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somebody else here on earth, because we're all Those who
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are baptized into Christ are members of the Church. Those
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who are in heaven are members of the Church of Victorious.
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Those here on earth are part of the Church, a
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part of the pilgrim church seeking to become members of
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the Church Victorious in heaven. But those in heaven certainly can,
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and here are prayers. As our Lord said, there is
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more rejoicing in heaven of a one sinner repent than
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ninety nine if I had no need of repentance. Well,
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clearly those in heaven are aware of repentance happening here
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on earth, that there is rejoicing in heaven over them.
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And also because we are still joined through that baptismal grace. Actually,
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the Body of Christ, the Body of Christ ought to
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and can pray for all of its members, no matter
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where the individual is at, just as I. You know,
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we're not in the same room right now, but I
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can certainly ask you to pray for me. I can
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certainly pray for you, and very much in the same
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way I would ask Kendrick to pray for me in
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a particular intention, say in my prayer, I would say, Kendrick,
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you know, I'm really struggling with converting this friend of
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mine who left the faith. He's interested on his behalf
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to God that he might have a conversion of heart
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and might come back to experience the love and the
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mercy of Christ.
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So it's it's a matter then of asking Kendrick to
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go to God and and to ask God, in this example,
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to bring somebody back to the church, and another example,
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to heal somebody.
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Oh yeah, certainly there are many healing miracles that got uh,
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got the blessed over the threshold in becoming sense, So
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certainly there, that's uh. Those are the very value valid petitions.
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To be made.
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And then father and Father Patrick de Loretto from Saint
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Mark's and Highlands Ranch are special guests talking about the
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sainthood process now that Kendrick Castile is in the early
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stages of that that process, and then, uh, Father, how
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are these miracles that are then attributed to someone and
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we hope to Kendrick eventually, how are those verified?
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It's a very very rigorous process. My understanding of it
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is that when somebody presents a reported miracle from the
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intercession of a particular individual, the Vatican is going to document, Okay,
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were you only interceding asking this person to intercede for you,
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or were you seeking all of these other saints to
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intercede to you. In this particular case, they have a
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team of doctors and scientists, depending on what the miracle
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happens to be, who will investigate and try to find
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if there's any scientific or medical reasoning for why the
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miracle might have happened. And once that team and that
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investigation is done, if they come back and say yet
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that they were only seeking this person's intercession and yes,
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there's no medical or scientific reason at all or why
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this thing should have why this thing happened, then the
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Vatican will refer that to the Holy Father, and the
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Holy Father will we'll look at the case and decide
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whether yes or no this.
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Is a miracle, right, and if there's any other explanation,
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then it's probably not going to be considered a miracle.
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Is that fair?
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Yes. Yeah. Father.
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My last question for today, and then hopefully you'll be
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kind enough to join us often as we move through
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this process, is what can people listening to this show
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who want to help do to help advance Kendrick's canonization.
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Well, a great question, Thank you for asking it. And
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the very first thing is prayer, the prayer for the church,
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prayer for our great Bishop here in the dieces, and
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call out the springs Bishop Kolka for his discernment in
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this matter wherever our Lord wishes it to go. And
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also prayer asking Kendrick to intercede in whatever a circumstance
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you may find yourself in, or deal dealing with people
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who fall away from the faith, or dealing with somebody
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who might be very ill, you know, asking Kendrick please
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interceed for this individual. But also if you have already
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had a habit of seeking his intercession, or you just
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feel very strongly that this is a praiseworthy and praiseworthy
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endeavor for the church to undertake.
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It is not wrong.
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To reach out to the dices of Gollar the screens
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in either email or or just an written letter and
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just express your desire that this would this would be
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a cause I might move forward. And this is not
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the strong arm the bishop in any way, shape or form,
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but just to help in his own prayerful discernments on
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the status of that cult of veneration that's that desire
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amongst the people of God to this for Kendrick to
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become a.
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Saint beautiful and also positive and well, Father, really appreciate
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your time today and your tremendous explanation and look forward
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to our next visit.
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Well, thank you so much for having me on. God
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bless you and Kendrick Cassillo pray for us.
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Amen to that. Thank you, Father, You take care.
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And yeah, bless you you.
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Two, sir, that is Father Patrick di Loretto out at
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Saint Mark's and Highlands Ranch. Have to tell you that
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on an off air conversation, said him. I could not
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be more impressed. George Brockler joins five point thirty six.
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You're on the dan kapla Show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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What was it like staring death in the face and dealing.
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With was there death in my face? I stared life?
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I stared life in the face. Man, I stared man.
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What you think a plan? When I tell you I'm.
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God's guy, I really am. I'm allowed to go through
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these tut tribulations so that I could touch and reach
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and and and then and bless people. But my words
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would would, the energy would would would that thing that
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that God gave me. So I never thought about no death.
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You know. I had to make a wheel because I
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want to be a business. I want to be a
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good steward, you know, for my kids and for my family.
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But now I got too much life to be.
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Thinking about death.
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Too much life.
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I got too much life in me and I got
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work to do.
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We hadn't win the darn championship. You talking about death? No,
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God damn make it ready to take me before that.
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This is Prime at his best right, and obviously it's
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been a tremendous thing for Ceeu since he came to
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see you. But this is him at his best. This
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goes so far beyond sports. He can do so much
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more good here than he is doing in sports, and
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he's doing a lot of good there too. But my goodness,
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I mean, this is like he says, right, this is real.
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You have people suffering from cancer, all kinds of cancers,
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in this case bladder cancer. But whether you're interested in
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sports or have ever heard of Prime before or not,
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I think you'll find this very compelling. This is a
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CU football coach diagnosed with bladder cancer and it causes
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all of these, you know, very kind of of difficult,
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you know, practical things for him in terms of going
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to the bathroom. But here he is on a national
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stage being very direct about it again, you know, trying
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to help and encourage others in the same situation. Cut six, please, Ryan,
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this is again very very courageous of Prime.
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Cut sticks like it's a whole life change, Like I
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can't and I'm gonna be transparent. I can't peel like
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I used to pee. It's totally different. And she not
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only is a blessing, but she provided other persons that
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have gone through what I've gone through so that I
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could talk to them and get some solace and understand
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like what I'm facing not just from a doctor, but
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from another individual, and I have to have been told
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like it's a totally different life. I mean, thank god,
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I'm now, I'm done. I depend on depend you know,
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if you know what I mean. I truly depend on
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depend Like I cannot control my bladder, so I get
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up to go to the bathroom already four or five
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times a night.
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Yeah, see that that takes so much courage, right, But
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it's got to help a lot of people to know
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he's going through it and willing to te talk about it,
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and how he continues that with cuts seven.
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But then I'm sitting up there waking up, you know,
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like grandson were in the same thing. We got the
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same problem right now, we're going through the same trials
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and tribulations. We kind of see who has the heaviest
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bag at the end of the night.
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Like this.
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It's ridiculous, but I'm making a joke out of it.
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But it's real, Like it is real. It is real.
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It is real. So if you see poor the party
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on the sideline, it's real. Okay, I'm just telling you
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right now, you're gon see it. You're go see the practice.
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You're gonna see one because it is unbelievable, like dozing
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off and waking up on first thing, I'm grabbing my
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crops to see if if if I feed on myself
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and U it's just totally different. And I know it's
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a lot of people out there going through what I'm
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going through and dealing with what I'm dealing with, and
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let's stop being ashamed of it, and let's deal with it.
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And let's to hit all them. That's so cool.
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I mean, he's walking the talk, right All coaches talk about, hey,
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we're here not just to develop players, but to develop
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young men. Well, this will do so much more for
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those young men. Just this example of just kind of
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brutal honesty and courage in the face of this and
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for someone one of the greatest athletes to ever live,
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and certainly one of the greatest football players, you know,
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and that's the toughest of sports, you know, to be
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talking about something this personal bathroom stuff this way and
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not being able to control it. I mean, to me,
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what a great example that is, you know, to the
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young men. And in terms of the porta potty thing,
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I mean, like I was telling Ryan earlier, this is
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going to be the first ten million dollar porter potty Ryan,
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I was wrong.
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It might be the first twenty.
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Million dollar port of potty because this porta potty is
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going to get more exposure in national TV this fall
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than the goodyear blimp, right, I think, because I mean
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every football broadcast, even.
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Games see you asn't playing it. They're going to cut
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away to prime coming in and out of the porta potty.
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And you know what's going to happen. And it's not
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just going to be at CEU, but it's cu Every
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time he goes in, every time he goes out, the
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crowd's going to go crazy. The student section is going
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to go crazy, right, and just kind of you know,
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a tribute to him and his fight and his honesty
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and just you know, like he says, having some fun
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with it as real as it is.
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I mean, any company would be crazy.
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Now again, I don't think it's a good fit for
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a law firm, and you know that's above our budget
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to be paying ten or twenty million for a porta potty.
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But what company do you think will buy it? Let's
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open that up to everybody. What company do you think
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is going to buy the rights to the porta potty?
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Because you can bet somebody is and they're going to
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pay a ton and then I bet Prime gives the
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money you know to to cancer research. But somebody's going
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to pay eight figures for that, George Brockler when we
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come back on the Dan Kapla Show.
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You're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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Community member, I'm very concerned that video is concerning.
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Eighteen Judicial District Attorney Amy Patten says she shares the
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same concerns as families and community members, as the court
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is poised to dismiss charges against thirty four year old
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Solomon Gallagan, and it.
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Is frustrating that our hands are tied by the way
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that the state law.
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Is paton TELCBS Colorado. The previous laws to the court
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may dismiss charges in a case where someone is found
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mentally incompetent to stand trial. Now this latest statute says
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the court quote shall dismiss the case.
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I would like to see some changes to the state
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statute that address these situations. Someone isn't that mental state,
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They should not be released, in my view, under any circumstances.
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Padden says the new law had good intentions, but is
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not doing enough to prevent violent offenders from slipping through
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the cracks.
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And it's my understanding that I think the legislature had
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anticipated that there would be additional civil commitment resources available,
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but those resources haven't materialized.
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It got additional funding, it's future defendants, she worries, will
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not get the treatment they need and be back on
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the streets.
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We either need resources available or we need more discretion
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in the court to be sure that people that have
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severe mental illness and have committed a crime aren't just
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getting released with no consequences.
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She also says she wants to work with lawmakers to
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fund mental health services that prevent people from committing crimes
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in the first place.
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This is something, to be honest, that have been on
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my radar even prior to this particular case. We can
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treat that mental illness, hopefully they won't commit another crime.
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But if we leave that mental illness untreated, I think
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there's a high probability that they will commit another crime.
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Wait a second, if you want to stop people from
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committing deadly crimes, don't get probation to someone who kills
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a woman with his car, you know, driving what ninety
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miles an hour in a residential neighborhood. Yeah, you want
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to stop violent crime, don't give bation to that guy.
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My goodness, Hey, let's go to the VIP line. Welcome
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a real prosecutor to the show, George Brockler, the DA
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in the twenty third. I think it's unanimous at this point,
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the greatest DA the twenty third has ever known.
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Welcome back, George.
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It's good to hold that title as long as it exists.
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But what is it like to be the first DA
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in a district?
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That's remarkable because normally you walk into a courthouse, you
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see you know, das from the Horse and Buggy days
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all the way up till today.
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And I guess in the twenty third, now.
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It's just you, just me. I've stripped off all of
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John's pictures from all the walls and stuff, so I
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can just put up mine. Well, be like the.
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One and only.
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But that wasn't the twenty third, right, And I think
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folks know the eighteenth used to be Douglas or Repo
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Lincoln Albert, and now Douglas is the twenty third Lincoln.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right, it's good. It's the challenge is
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the same as the opportunity, and that is you get
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to be the first out of the gate on how
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to do a whole bunch of things. And you can
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either do it like everyone else has done it before,
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or you can try to carve out a different path.
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And the good news for us is the Metro area,
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and you report on this so many times has just
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taken such an offender centric turn that the way I
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carve out a difference is to just be the guy
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that does the old school. Hey, if you're going to
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break the law, there's going to be consequences.
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Yeah.
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And to me, you know, it all makes sense. And
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I'm biased, right, I mean, my law partner and good friend,
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John Kellner, I think is just and was a phenomenal da.
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But there you had a rapa Hole and Douglas, two
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communities that, to a certain extent have much different personalities
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and maybe priorities to a certain extent when it comes
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to law enforcement. Douglas, joined by Lincoln, I think, has
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a very distinct personality of its own.
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Oh my gosh, that's so true. But I'm not convinced
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that the people of a Rapaho County have a different
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approach to law enforcement. I don't think they know that.
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And you've seen this on all the ballots we've had
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over the past few let cycles, if you have a
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D next to your name and you live in a
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Rapahoe County, you win, and Douglas, if you have an
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R next to your name, you win. And so for
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similar reasons, but without any reasoning, that's what happens. I mean,
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I don't think anybody's out there saying, yes, we want
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to coddle criminals and that's why we've voted this way
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in a Rapahoe County.
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I just think that's a good point.
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Church.
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That's a good point and a great lead in to
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this Amy Patton business. Right, because I understand the vast
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majority of my family outside of Colorado are Democrats, but
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these are patriotic, law abiding people. Obviously, my dad, as
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a Democrat, was in law enforcement, So you're right. I mean,
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people want to protect themselves, they want to protect family members.
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And how many people out there want a guy like
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this Gallagan back on the street.
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None nobody else. Right. The part that gets me about this,
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and again, I don't have access to the mental health
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report that came out from the state that found him competent.
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I don't have access to the defense sought report that
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says he's in God, don't have any of that stuff.
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But what I know is this, the law doesn't just
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automatically declare right now, you've got to get rid of
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the case. In fact, one of the options it's always
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available is to fight like hell in the courtroom and
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make the judge do some of that and make the
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judge make a ruling here.
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Well, well, and this is in my mind, the key point,
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which is that apparently it's been confirmed, is that, right, George,
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that the state report was that he was competent, that
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he could stand trial, and that this is it correct
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to say that this da then decided to set aside
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the state report, which he could have used to then
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try to take him to trial, and instead accept the
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defense report, which will now be used to free him
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from any criminal consequences.
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I'd say yes, ish in this way. My understanding, from
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an exchange that took place on Facebook, of all things,
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is that the state did come back and say dude
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was competent to stand trial, but dot dot unlikely to
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remain competent. I don't even know what that means, because
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I haven't seen the report. But then when the defense says, hey,
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we'd like to have him shrunk, they come back and
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say he's incompetent, Then it feels like the decision is, well,
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we've got all these reports that have said he's incompetent,
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and I know we had this one report, but it
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looks like we're just going to go with the flow.
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And I don't know if that's true. I'm just saying
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that's how it feels to me looking at the Register
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of Actions.
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Right in sense, at least I don't have access to
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the direct to the report itself.
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You know, I'll talk in terms of hypotheticals.
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If we've got a report out there from the state
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saying this guy's competent to stand trial, and I understand
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the qualifier apparently says he may not be competent for
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long or whatever. If the law is as long as
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he's competent, now you can try him that then why
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as a prosecutor, wouldn't you be doing everything in your
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power to try to use.
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That report to try him.
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And listen, we'll try to get paton On to have
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this conversation with her directly, But what's your take on that.
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I would I'd find like, hell, if the only alternative
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is to cut this guy loose to and what they've
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described as a short term commitment that's renewable at the
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state hospital's request. But that's that's kind of silly because
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it's an up to a ninety day commitment, but there's
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no guarantee. And what we know from this dude's past
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is it's been no guarantee. Dude keeps getting out after
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these little stints. So I don't feel safe with this
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guy going to a short term commitment, and so my
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approach would be, without knowing more, and maybe there's something
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that would change my mind, my approach would be I'm
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going to try to keep this guy away from the
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community as long as I can until a judge orders
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him released. Not because I said it was good to
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do so, but because I lost.
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Well, well, wait a second, George, and I understand why
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you say that's your approach, because it's the right thing
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to do.
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But isn't this the.
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Duty of every DA, of every DA with somebody you
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know is dangerous like that. I mean, you look at
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the prior victim, you look at what you can see
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on tape here. Isn't it your duty then to use
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every legal tool available to try to protect the community
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from them?
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I feel like it is. I mean, within the confines
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of ethical application of state authority. Yes, and I think
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as long as you have that first report that says
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this guy is good to go, even if it says
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they don't think he's likely to remain that way. And
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take it from a guy who's had to cross examine
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mental health experts before. They all say a lot of
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stuff that ultimately a FactFinder says I don't believe you
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or I don't agree with you. So it's not a
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done deal just because it shows up in an experts report.
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Yeah, but you got to do all you can, right,
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That's right? I mean to me, Oh, you can, each
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and every one of us. That's what we're put on
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this rock for. But when you're a DA and you
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have that kind of power to protect the community or
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to not protect the community, you got to do all
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you can.
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You've got to do all that you can. I agree.
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My concern here is that this situation is going to
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find itself unfolding in Douglas County. We've seen it now
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pass so recently with a guy who killed someone with
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his car. We've seen it. In this circumstance, you start
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to see more and more stories. I just want to
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be prepared to fight as hard as I can when
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this thing comes up, so that I don't ever have
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to answer to the next victim. Why did we do
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more right?
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And this is why the left put this law in place,
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right so that the defense can now use it as
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a way.
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To walk these people. And you know, we're.
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Very glad we have you on the wall. I was
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very happy when we had John Kellner on the wall.
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And this brings us full circle to your point that
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just because the RAPO votes Democratic now doesn't mean they're
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voting to.
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Let a guy like this out without a fight.
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But George, in our last sixty seconds, you will be
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I guess, and how appropriate the first official step in
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the campaign to canonize Kendrick Kessio. And when I say official,
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by this show just trying to do the little we
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cand with this show to build support for that. So
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you know quite a bit about Kendrick, and what would
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your pitch be for canonization.
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I think that if you look at this, and you
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and I have talked about this so many times, and
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I've talked by the way, if you're the first miracle
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is you got Maria on the radio. Yeah, a miracle.
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But the second is that this guy, this kid, this
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man at that this eighteen year old produces this forty
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five caliber handgent cannon with and his announcement, nobody f
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word move right. There were a whole bunch of different
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reactions people did have and could have had, and I
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don't know that any of them are any more right
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than the others. But in that moment, with those blood
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curdling words coming out of his mouth, one guy, one
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guy stood up and didn't run for the door, didn't
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hide under the table, he didn't freeze and play. He
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took this guy on and he didn't stand there and
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yelled don't do it. He charged him, putting himself between
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that gun and every other person in that room. And Dan,
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as a guy who has spent a career in the military,
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you ask yourself all the time, what would I do
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in that situation? What I have the medal to do it?
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And an eighteen year old young man with nothing but
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faith in his chest decided at that instant, I'm going
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for it. I'm gonna stop this from happening. And I
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just to me, that is not just heroic. It speaks
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to who he was and who John and Maria raised.
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I mean, if you had lined up all those guys,
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Dan and I didn't know it before this, and said,
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who's your hero today, Who's the guy that trades his
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life for everyone else's. I don't know that Kendrick's in
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your top fifty percent, only because we tend to judge
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people by their outward appearance. But on the inside, this guy,
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this guy was Hercules, do you know what I mean?
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On the outside, he was just this great, appable, everybody
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liked it, joy filled kid who loved robotics, the Catholic
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Church and his parents. But when the chips were down, man,
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when someone needed to be a hero to save lives,
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there was no question it was always going to be Kendrick,
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and we just didn't know it.
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George, if we can get this tape of you to
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the bishop and to the Pope, he's a shoeing, because
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that's true and what you just described is a saint,
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right But uh but no on, I'm so happy to
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see this process started, and I just loved what you
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had to say. And yeah, going to do everything possible
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to just try to show community support for this because
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that is part of the formal process.
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So hey appreciate the time today, my friend, and look forward.
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To the next one he did. Thanks sir, talking soon.
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Thank you you take care of George Brockler.
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Well, don't you think, Ryan, he just said it so beautifully.
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Yeah, said it beautifully. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump.
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I mean these polls that come out and show him
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not doing well, I don't buy that. I think strength,
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his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength. He
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is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. I mean,
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Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strengths and
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I think that's what all the voters look for. But
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they wanted a president who is a strong figure, and
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he's got it and he can. Yeah, it's just there,
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and half the country buys it, that's.
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What I think.
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Well, Chris Matthews, credit to him intellectual honesty there, But
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it's a lot more than half the country that buys it.
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It's just that it's about half the country to tell
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pollsters they buy it, right, And that's irrefutable logic. You
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can be sure there are a lot more people out
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there who are very glad Donald Trump's president, but they're
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just never gonna say it for a variety of reasons.
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And that's okay, right, I mean, he doesn't need that.
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He is so clearly winning. And are you tired of it? Jit, Ryan,
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You tired of the warning?
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Yet? No?
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Not even close.
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No I'm not either. I mean I get more and
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more excited when you think of the potential.
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Right, It's like Colorado. You look at this state.
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All we've been given, the natural beauty, the resources, geography,
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et cetera. And this state, this state should be doing
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ten times as well as we're doing. It's still one
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of the best places to be in the country, right,
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but that's kind of by default with all the great
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stuff we have. But we should be doing ten times
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better the United States of America, you know, with all
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we have going for us, born of divine providence, as
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the founder said, Yeah, we should be doing one hundred
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times better as the United States of America. But we've
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been up against these lefties, you know, who have been
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trying to undermine the nation. And Trump now is starting
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to turn that battleship around. So to me, there's this
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unlimited upset. I had opportunity with America and eventually someday
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for Colorado, but it's going to have to turn to
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different kind of leadership first. But for America, I feel
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like it's really just starting again. Yeah, So how good
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can it get? I think it can get.
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Very very good. It got so good. Kramer used the
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F word today.
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You see that, and that he's going to post out
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an ax apologizing for it.
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Yeah, and we're not talking about Kramer from Seinfeld. It's
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the Kramer, the money guy on CNBC, and he's looking
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at this trade deal with Europe, and he's looking at
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all of these flashing green lights on the economy, all
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this Trump stuff working, and he just he was driven
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to use the F word, probably one of the few times.
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You'd approve of it on air.
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Hey, thank you Ryan, Thank you Kelly, and thank you
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so much to John and Maria Kisstio for being with
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us in George Brockler, who always does such a great job,
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and Reverend Patrick di Loretto talking about the canonization process
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that Kendrick is in the very early stages of both
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we'll be talking more about what you can do to
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help support that. In all such positivity there, thank you,
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have a great evening. Please join us tomorrow on the
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Dan Kapla Show.
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This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, I'll tell
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you this is one of the more fun and exciting
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things that I've ever had the chance to even think about.
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And that's when I got the word late on Friday
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night from John and Maria Castillo that their son Kendrick
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was now in the very first baby steps of the
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Catholic Churches canonization process. And it's a long road with
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a lot to be done. But how incredibly right this is,
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right Deck Kendrick, who's just this model of Christian love,
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laying down his life to save others and in so
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many other ways. I didn't know him, but from everything
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I've heard, just such a virtuous kids. So we're privileged
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to talk now with Reverend Patrick di Loretto. He's from
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Saint Mark Catholic Church in Highland's Ranch and also Cherry
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Creek grad Is that right, father?
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Yes?
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I am.
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Wow, that's awesome. What year? What year were you a
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Creek or did you graduate.
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I graduated from Cherry Creek in twenty eleven.
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Wow, well that is so cool.
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What's it like then to come back to your hometown
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and just be down the road in Highlands Ranch?
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Oh, it was quite a blessing of Bishop of Goboca
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signs me up here to the Highland's Ranch to be
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to be Aproca Viker at Saint Mark. And honestly, it's
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such a wonderful parish. I'm with a fantastic pastor who
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has been a great mentor to me over the past
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year that I've been here, and it's just been great
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to also be close to so many of my family
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members and friends who are up in the Denver area.
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Yeah, that just has to be so cool. And I've
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been telling folks since I talked to you yesterday that
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you're just so smart and so dialed in and so
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on top of all this, you know, how great for
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the church to have you. But thanks for being here
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today to talk about Sainthood's something that I've never studied
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before until you know, I heard from John and Marie
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on Friday night and I went on the internet like
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everybody else. It's like drinking out of a fire hose.
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Trying to learn as fast as I can, So would
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you be kind enough to just kind of give folks
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an overview as you did for me on the phone yesterday,
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of how this canonization process works from A to Z.
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Understanding that we're at the very first step right.
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Now, of course.
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Yeah. So the very first step is there has to
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be what's called a cult of veneration, which is the
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popular piety amongst the people of God to seek the
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intercession of a certain individual who has since gone to
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God and one of the ICCs. Okay, there seems to
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be a movement amongst the people of God to want
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this person to become a saint, and they the diocese
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will then or particular parish, as is our case, we'll
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start doing some culinary investigations into the individual and start
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seeing was this person actually, did they live a holy life,
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did they die in heroic circumstances? And if you have
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both of those things, then it becomes a case where
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it's referred to the diocese, and if the bishop or
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the governing body of bishops in a particular country like
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here in the United States it's the USCCB, the United
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States Confidence of Catholic Bishops. If they approve a certain cause,
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then the individual is immediately granted the title of servant
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of God. And then after that step it's taken to
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the Vatican and the Vatican will do a very very
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thorough investigation into the person's life. They will read everything
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the person's written, going back as far as I'm aware,
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at least the last sixteen years of their life before
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they die. If they had a journal, they would read
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through all of that. They would interview people who knew them,
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relatives as well. It's like, okay, if we're looking at
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a heroic life or virtuous life, the Vatican is going
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be granted the title of venerable, and that's venerable. Then
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heroic virtue. But still the Vatican hasn't formally said that
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the person is in heaven, that stage is when we
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certitude of somebody who's declared venerable. That okay, that probably ha,
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once you get to the blessed stage, then there are
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that there is a miracle that can be attributed to
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the intercession of a particular individual. Or the other option
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that they gave their life in defense of the faith
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life was ended because somebody had a hatred for God.
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Maximilian Colby, the Church would grant them the title of
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martyr and they would become a blessed. And the final
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stage is saint. And saint is when the Church has
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confirmed that they have two miracles, and the Church says
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to the whole universal Church, so the church around the
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whole world, that yes, this is somebody who lived a
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holy life. Everyone in the Catholic Church ought to look
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to them as an example of hooness and as a
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person who you should emulate if you wish to obtain
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heaven yourself through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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So that's the brief rundown of each.
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Thank you and thank you for doing it so well.
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And concisely, let's talk a little bit about intercession. What
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does that mean to be asking Kendrick to intercede.
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somebody else here on earth, because we're all Those who
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are baptized into Christ are members of the Church. Those
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who are in heaven are members of the Church of Victorious.
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Those here on earth are part of the Church, a
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part of the pilgrim church seeking to become members of
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the Church Victorious in heaven. But those in heaven certainly can,
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and here are prayers. As our Lord said, there is
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more rejoicing in heaven of a one sinner repent than
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ninety nine if I had no need of repentance. Well,
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clearly those in heaven are aware of repentance happening here
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on earth, that there is rejoicing in heaven over them.
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the Body of Christ, the Body of Christ ought to
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and can pray for all of its members, no matter
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where the individual is at, just as I. You know,
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we're not in the same room right now, but I
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can certainly ask you to pray for me. I can
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certainly pray for you, and very much in the same
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way I would ask Kendrick to pray for me in
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a particular intention, say in my prayer, I would say, Kendrick,
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you know, I'm really struggling with converting this friend of
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mine who left the faith. He's interested on his behalf
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to God that he might have a conversion of heart
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and might come back to experience the love and the
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mercy of Christ.
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go to God and and to ask God, in this example,
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to bring somebody back to the church, and another example,
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to heal somebody.
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got the blessed over the threshold in becoming sense, So
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certainly there, that's uh. Those are the very value valid petitions.
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Mark's and Highlands Ranch are special guests talking about the
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sainthood process now that Kendrick Castile is in the early
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stages of that that process, and then, uh, Father, how
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are these miracles that are then attributed to someone and
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we hope to Kendrick eventually, how are those verified?
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is that when somebody presents a reported miracle from the
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intercession of a particular individual, the Vatican is going to document, Okay,
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were you only interceding asking this person to intercede for you,
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or were you seeking all of these other saints to
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intercede to you. In this particular case, they have a
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team of doctors and scientists, depending on what the miracle
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happens to be, who will investigate and try to find
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if there's any scientific or medical reasoning for why the
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miracle might have happened. And once that team and that
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investigation is done, if they come back and say yet
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that they were only seeking this person's intercession and yes,
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there's no medical or scientific reason at all or why
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this thing should have why this thing happened, then the
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Vatican will refer that to the Holy Father, and the
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Holy Father will we'll look at the case and decide
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whether yes or no this.
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Is a miracle, right, and if there's any other explanation,
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then it's probably not going to be considered a miracle.
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kind enough to join us often as we move through
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this process, is what can people listening to this show
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who want to help do to help advance Kendrick's canonization.
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the very first thing is prayer, the prayer for the church,
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prayer for our great Bishop here in the dieces, and
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call out the springs Bishop Kolka for his discernment in
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this matter wherever our Lord wishes it to go. And
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also prayer asking Kendrick to intercede in whatever a circumstance
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you may find yourself in, or deal dealing with people
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who fall away from the faith, or dealing with somebody
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who might be very ill, you know, asking Kendrick please
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interceed for this individual. But also if you have already
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had a habit of seeking his intercession, or you just
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feel very strongly that this is a praiseworthy and praiseworthy
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endeavor for the church to undertake.
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It is not wrong.
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To reach out to the dices of Gollar the screens
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in either email or or just an written letter and
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just express your desire that this would this would be
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a cause I might move forward. And this is not
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the strong arm the bishop in any way, shape or form,
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but just to help in his own prayerful discernments on
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the status of that cult of veneration that's that desire
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amongst the people of God to this for Kendrick to
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become a.
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Saint beautiful and also positive and well, Father, really appreciate
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your time today and your tremendous explanation and look forward
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to our next visit.
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Well, thank you so much for having me on. God
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bless you and Kendrick Cassillo pray for us.
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Amen to that. Thank you, Father, You take care.
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And yeah, bless you you.
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Two, sir, that is Father Patrick di Loretto out at
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Saint Mark's and Highlands Ranch. Have to tell you that
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on an off air conversation, said him. I could not
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be more impressed. George Brockler joins five point thirty six.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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What was it like staring death in the face and dealing.
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With was there death in my face? I stared life?
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I stared life in the face. Man, I stared man.
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What you think a plan? When I tell you I'm.
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God's guy, I really am. I'm allowed to go through
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these tut tribulations so that I could touch and reach
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and and and then and bless people. But my words
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would would, the energy would would would that thing that
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that God gave me. So I never thought about no death.
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You know. I had to make a wheel because I
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want to be a business. I want to be a
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good steward, you know, for my kids and for my family.
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But now I got too much life to be.
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Thinking about death.
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Too much life.
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I got too much life in me and I got
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work to do.
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We hadn't win the darn championship. You talking about death? No,
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God damn make it ready to take me before that.
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This is Prime at his best right, and obviously it's
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been a tremendous thing for Ceeu since he came to
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see you. But this is him at his best. This
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goes so far beyond sports. He can do so much
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more good here than he is doing in sports, and
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he's doing a lot of good there too. But my goodness,
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I mean, this is like he says, right, this is real.
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You have people suffering from cancer, all kinds of cancers,
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in this case bladder cancer. But whether you're interested in
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sports or have ever heard of Prime before or not,
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I think you'll find this very compelling. This is a
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CU football coach diagnosed with bladder cancer and it causes
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all of these, you know, very kind of of difficult,
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you know, practical things for him in terms of going
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to the bathroom. But here he is on a national
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stage being very direct about it again, you know, trying
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to help and encourage others in the same situation. Cut six, please, Ryan,
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this is again very very courageous of Prime.
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Cut sticks like it's a whole life change, Like I
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can't and I'm gonna be transparent. I can't peel like
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I used to pee. It's totally different. And she not
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only is a blessing, but she provided other persons that
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have gone through what I've gone through so that I
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could talk to them and get some solace and understand
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like what I'm facing not just from a doctor, but
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from another individual, and I have to have been told
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like it's a totally different life. I mean, thank god,
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I'm now, I'm done. I depend on depend you know,
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if you know what I mean. I truly depend on
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depend Like I cannot control my bladder, so I get
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up to go to the bathroom already four or five
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times a night.
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it's got to help a lot of people to know
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he's going through it and willing to te talk about it,
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and how he continues that with cuts seven.
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like grandson were in the same thing. We got the
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same problem right now, we're going through the same trials
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and tribulations. We kind of see who has the heaviest
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bag at the end of the night.
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It's ridiculous, but I'm making a joke out of it.
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It is real. So if you see poor the party
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on the sideline, it's real. Okay, I'm just telling you
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right now, you're gon see it. You're go see the practice.
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You're gonna see one because it is unbelievable, like dozing
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off and waking up on first thing, I'm grabbing my
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crops to see if if if I feed on myself
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a lot of people out there going through what I'm
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going through and dealing with what I'm dealing with, and
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let's stop being ashamed of it, and let's deal with it.
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And let's to hit all them. That's so cool.
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I mean, he's walking the talk, right All coaches talk about, hey,
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we're here not just to develop players, but to develop
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young men. Well, this will do so much more for
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those young men. Just this example of just kind of
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brutal honesty and courage in the face of this and
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for someone one of the greatest athletes to ever live,
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and certainly one of the greatest football players, you know,
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talking about something this personal bathroom stuff this way and
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not being able to control it. I mean, to me,
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what a great example that is, you know, to the
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young men. And in terms of the porta potty thing,
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going to be the first ten million dollar porter potty Ryan,
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I was wrong.
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It might be the first twenty.
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Million dollar port of potty because this porta potty is
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going to get more exposure in national TV this fall
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than the goodyear blimp, right, I think, because I mean
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every football broadcast, even.
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Games see you asn't playing it. They're going to cut
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away to prime coming in and out of the porta potty.
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And you know what's going to happen. And it's not
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just going to be at CEU, but it's cu Every
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time he goes in, every time he goes out, the
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crowd's going to go crazy. The student section is going
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to go crazy, right, and just kind of you know,
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a tribute to him and his fight and his honesty
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and just you know, like he says, having some fun
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with it as real as it is.
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I mean, any company would be crazy.
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Now again, I don't think it's a good fit for
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a law firm, and you know that's above our budget
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to be paying ten or twenty million for a porta potty.
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But what company do you think will buy it? Let's
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open that up to everybody. What company do you think
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is going to buy the rights to the porta potty?
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Because you can bet somebody is and they're going to
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pay a ton and then I bet Prime gives the
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money you know to to cancer research. But somebody's going
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to pay eight figures for that, George Brockler when we
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come back on the Dan Kapla Show.
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You're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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Community member, I'm very concerned that video is concerning.
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Eighteen Judicial District Attorney Amy Patten says she shares the
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same concerns as families and community members, as the court
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is poised to dismiss charges against thirty four year old
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Solomon Gallagan, and it.
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Is frustrating that our hands are tied by the way
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that the state law.
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Is paton TELCBS Colorado. The previous laws to the court
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may dismiss charges in a case where someone is found
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mentally incompetent to stand trial. Now this latest statute says
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the court quote shall dismiss the case.
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I would like to see some changes to the state
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statute that address these situations. Someone isn't that mental state,
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They should not be released, in my view, under any circumstances.
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Padden says the new law had good intentions, but is
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not doing enough to prevent violent offenders from slipping through
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the cracks.
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And it's my understanding that I think the legislature had
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anticipated that there would be additional civil commitment resources available,
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but those resources haven't materialized.
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It got additional funding, it's future defendants, she worries, will
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not get the treatment they need and be back on
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the streets.
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We either need resources available or we need more discretion
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in the court to be sure that people that have
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severe mental illness and have committed a crime aren't just
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getting released with no consequences.
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She also says she wants to work with lawmakers to
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fund mental health services that prevent people from committing crimes
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in the first place.
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This is something, to be honest, that have been on
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my radar even prior to this particular case. We can
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treat that mental illness, hopefully they won't commit another crime.
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But if we leave that mental illness untreated, I think
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there's a high probability that they will commit another crime.
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Wait a second, if you want to stop people from
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committing deadly crimes, don't get probation to someone who kills
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a woman with his car, you know, driving what ninety
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miles an hour in a residential neighborhood. Yeah, you want
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to stop violent crime, don't give bation to that guy.
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My goodness, Hey, let's go to the VIP line. Welcome
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a real prosecutor to the show, George Brockler, the DA
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in the twenty third. I think it's unanimous at this point,
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the greatest DA the twenty third has ever known.
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Welcome back, George.
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It's good to hold that title as long as it exists.
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But what is it like to be the first DA
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in a district?
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That's remarkable because normally you walk into a courthouse, you
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see you know, das from the Horse and Buggy days
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all the way up till today.
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And I guess in the twenty third, now.
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It's just you, just me. I've stripped off all of
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John's pictures from all the walls and stuff, so I
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can just put up mine. Well, be like the.
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One and only.
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But that wasn't the twenty third, right, And I think
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folks know the eighteenth used to be Douglas or Repo
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Lincoln Albert, and now Douglas is the twenty third Lincoln.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right, it's good. It's the challenge is
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the same as the opportunity, and that is you get
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to be the first out of the gate on how
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to do a whole bunch of things. And you can
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either do it like everyone else has done it before,
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or you can try to carve out a different path.
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And the good news for us is the Metro area,
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and you report on this so many times has just
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taken such an offender centric turn that the way I
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carve out a difference is to just be the guy
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that does the old school. Hey, if you're going to
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break the law, there's going to be consequences.
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Yeah.
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And to me, you know, it all makes sense. And
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I'm biased, right, I mean, my law partner and good friend,
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John Kellner, I think is just and was a phenomenal da.
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But there you had a rapa Hole and Douglas, two
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communities that, to a certain extent have much different personalities
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and maybe priorities to a certain extent when it comes
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to law enforcement. Douglas, joined by Lincoln, I think, has
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a very distinct personality of its own.
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Oh my gosh, that's so true. But I'm not convinced
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that the people of a Rapaho County have a different
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approach to law enforcement. I don't think they know that.
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And you've seen this on all the ballots we've had
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over the past few let cycles, if you have a
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D next to your name and you live in a
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Rapahoe County, you win, and Douglas, if you have an
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R next to your name, you win. And so for
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similar reasons, but without any reasoning, that's what happens. I mean,
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I don't think anybody's out there saying, yes, we want
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to coddle criminals and that's why we've voted this way
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in a Rapahoe County.
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I just think that's a good point.
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Church.
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That's a good point and a great lead in to
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this Amy Patton business. Right, because I understand the vast
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majority of my family outside of Colorado are Democrats, but
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these are patriotic, law abiding people. Obviously, my dad, as
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a Democrat, was in law enforcement, So you're right. I mean,
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people want to protect themselves, they want to protect family members.
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And how many people out there want a guy like
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this Gallagan back on the street.
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None nobody else. Right. The part that gets me about this,
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and again, I don't have access to the mental health
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report that came out from the state that found him competent.
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I don't have access to the defense sought report that
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says he's in God, don't have any of that stuff.
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But what I know is this, the law doesn't just
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automatically declare right now, you've got to get rid of
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the case. In fact, one of the options it's always
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available is to fight like hell in the courtroom and
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make the judge do some of that and make the
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judge make a ruling here.
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Well, well, and this is in my mind, the key point,
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which is that apparently it's been confirmed, is that, right, George,
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that the state report was that he was competent, that
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he could stand trial, and that this is it correct
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to say that this da then decided to set aside
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the state report, which he could have used to then
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try to take him to trial, and instead accept the
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defense report, which will now be used to free him
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from any criminal consequences.
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I'd say yes, ish in this way. My understanding, from
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an exchange that took place on Facebook, of all things,
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is that the state did come back and say dude
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was competent to stand trial, but dot dot unlikely to
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remain competent. I don't even know what that means, because
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I haven't seen the report. But then when the defense says, hey,
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we'd like to have him shrunk, they come back and
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say he's incompetent, Then it feels like the decision is, well,
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we've got all these reports that have said he's incompetent,
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and I know we had this one report, but it
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looks like we're just going to go with the flow.
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And I don't know if that's true. I'm just saying
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that's how it feels to me looking at the Register
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of Actions.
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Right in sense, at least I don't have access to
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the direct to the report itself.
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You know, I'll talk in terms of hypotheticals.
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If we've got a report out there from the state
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saying this guy's competent to stand trial, and I understand
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the qualifier apparently says he may not be competent for
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long or whatever. If the law is as long as
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he's competent, now you can try him that then why
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as a prosecutor, wouldn't you be doing everything in your
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power to try to use.
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That report to try him.
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And listen, we'll try to get paton On to have
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this conversation with her directly, But what's your take on that.
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I would I'd find like, hell, if the only alternative
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is to cut this guy loose to and what they've
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described as a short term commitment that's renewable at the
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state hospital's request. But that's that's kind of silly because
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it's an up to a ninety day commitment, but there's
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no guarantee. And what we know from this dude's past
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is it's been no guarantee. Dude keeps getting out after
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these little stints. So I don't feel safe with this
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guy going to a short term commitment, and so my
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approach would be, without knowing more, and maybe there's something
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that would change my mind, my approach would be I'm
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going to try to keep this guy away from the
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community as long as I can until a judge orders
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him released. Not because I said it was good to
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do so, but because I lost.
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Well, well, wait a second, George, and I understand why
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you say that's your approach, because it's the right thing
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to do.
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But isn't this the.
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Duty of every DA, of every DA with somebody you
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know is dangerous like that. I mean, you look at
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the prior victim, you look at what you can see
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on tape here. Isn't it your duty then to use
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every legal tool available to try to protect the community
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from them?
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I feel like it is. I mean, within the confines
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of ethical application of state authority. Yes, and I think
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as long as you have that first report that says
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this guy is good to go, even if it says
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they don't think he's likely to remain that way. And
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take it from a guy who's had to cross examine
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mental health experts before. They all say a lot of
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stuff that ultimately a FactFinder says I don't believe you
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or I don't agree with you. So it's not a
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done deal just because it shows up in an experts report.
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Yeah, but you got to do all you can, right,
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That's right? I mean to me, Oh, you can, each
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and every one of us. That's what we're put on
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this rock for. But when you're a DA and you
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have that kind of power to protect the community or
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to not protect the community, you got to do all
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you can.
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You've got to do all that you can. I agree.
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My concern here is that this situation is going to
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find itself unfolding in Douglas County. We've seen it now
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pass so recently with a guy who killed someone with
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his car. We've seen it. In this circumstance, you start
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to see more and more stories. I just want to
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be prepared to fight as hard as I can when
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this thing comes up, so that I don't ever have
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to answer to the next victim. Why did we do
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more right?
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And this is why the left put this law in place,
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right so that the defense can now use it as
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a way.
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To walk these people. And you know, we're.
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Very glad we have you on the wall. I was
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very happy when we had John Kellner on the wall.
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And this brings us full circle to your point that
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just because the RAPO votes Democratic now doesn't mean they're
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voting to.
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Let a guy like this out without a fight.
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But George, in our last sixty seconds, you will be
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I guess, and how appropriate the first official step in
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the campaign to canonize Kendrick Kessio. And when I say official,
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by this show just trying to do the little we
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cand with this show to build support for that. So
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you know quite a bit about Kendrick, and what would
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your pitch be for canonization.
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I think that if you look at this, and you
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and I have talked about this so many times, and
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I've talked by the way, if you're the first miracle
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is you got Maria on the radio. Yeah, a miracle.
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But the second is that this guy, this kid, this
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man at that this eighteen year old produces this forty
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five caliber handgent cannon with and his announcement, nobody f
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word move right. There were a whole bunch of different
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reactions people did have and could have had, and I
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don't know that any of them are any more right
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than the others. But in that moment, with those blood
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curdling words coming out of his mouth, one guy, one
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guy stood up and didn't run for the door, didn't
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hide under the table, he didn't freeze and play. He
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took this guy on and he didn't stand there and
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yelled don't do it. He charged him, putting himself between
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that gun and every other person in that room. And Dan,
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as a guy who has spent a career in the military,
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you ask yourself all the time, what would I do
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in that situation? What I have the medal to do it?
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And an eighteen year old young man with nothing but
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faith in his chest decided at that instant, I'm going
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for it. I'm gonna stop this from happening. And I
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just to me, that is not just heroic. It speaks
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to who he was and who John and Maria raised.
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I mean, if you had lined up all those guys,
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Dan and I didn't know it before this, and said,
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who's your hero today, Who's the guy that trades his
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life for everyone else's. I don't know that Kendrick's in
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your top fifty percent, only because we tend to judge
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people by their outward appearance. But on the inside, this guy,
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this guy was Hercules, do you know what I mean?
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On the outside, he was just this great, appable, everybody
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liked it, joy filled kid who loved robotics, the Catholic
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Church and his parents. But when the chips were down, man,
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when someone needed to be a hero to save lives,
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there was no question it was always going to be Kendrick,
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and we just didn't know it.
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George, if we can get this tape of you to
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the bishop and to the Pope, he's a shoeing, because
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that's true and what you just described is a saint,
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right But uh but no on, I'm so happy to
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see this process started, and I just loved what you
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had to say. And yeah, going to do everything possible
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to just try to show community support for this because
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that is part of the formal process.
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So hey appreciate the time today, my friend, and look forward.
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To the next one he did. Thanks sir, talking soon.
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Thank you you take care of George Brockler.
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Well, don't you think, Ryan, he just said it so beautifully.
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Yeah, said it beautifully. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump.
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I mean these polls that come out and show him
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not doing well, I don't buy that. I think strength,
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his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength. He
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is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. I mean,
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Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strengths and
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I think that's what all the voters look for. But
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they wanted a president who is a strong figure, and
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he's got it and he can. Yeah, it's just there,
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and half the country buys it, that's.
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What I think.
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Well, Chris Matthews, credit to him intellectual honesty there, But
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it's a lot more than half the country that buys it.
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It's just that it's about half the country to tell
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pollsters they buy it, right, And that's irrefutable logic. You
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can be sure there are a lot more people out
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there who are very glad Donald Trump's president, but they're
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just never gonna say it for a variety of reasons.
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And that's okay, right, I mean, he doesn't need that.
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He is so clearly winning. And are you tired of it? Jit, Ryan,
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You tired of the warning?
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Yet? No?
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Not even close.
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No I'm not either. I mean I get more and
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more excited when you think of the potential.
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Right, It's like Colorado. You look at this state.
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All we've been given, the natural beauty, the resources, geography,
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et cetera. And this state, this state should be doing
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ten times as well as we're doing. It's still one
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of the best places to be in the country, right,
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but that's kind of by default with all the great
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stuff we have. But we should be doing ten times
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better the United States of America, you know, with all
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we have going for us, born of divine providence, as
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the founder said, Yeah, we should be doing one hundred
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times better as the United States of America. But we've
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been up against these lefties, you know, who have been
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trying to undermine the nation. And Trump now is starting
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to turn that battleship around. So to me, there's this
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unlimited upset. I had opportunity with America and eventually someday
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for Colorado, but it's going to have to turn to
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different kind of leadership first. But for America, I feel
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like it's really just starting again. Yeah, So how good
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can it get? I think it can get.
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Very very good. It got so good. Kramer used the
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F word today.
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You see that, and that he's going to post out
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an ax apologizing for it.
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Yeah, and we're not talking about Kramer from Seinfeld. It's
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the Kramer, the money guy on CNBC, and he's looking
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at this trade deal with Europe, and he's looking at
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all of these flashing green lights on the economy, all
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this Trump stuff working, and he just he was driven
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to use the F word, probably one of the few times.
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You'd approve of it on air.
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Hey, thank you Ryan, Thank you Kelly, and thank you
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so much to John and Maria Kisstio for being with
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us in George Brockler, who always does such a great job,
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and Reverend Patrick di Loretto talking about the canonization process
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that Kendrick is in the very early stages of both
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we'll be talking more about what you can do to
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help support that. In all such positivity there, thank you,
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have a great evening. Please join us tomorrow on the
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Dan Kapla Show.
