Patrick Peterson, Vikings Win in London - Bumper to Bumper 10/3/22 Hour One

There's too many. Thank you for everybody for coming here. This is your four and one right around the corner Leader Fan Fan Radio Network and k f a N dot Com, fifty five seconds past the hour three o'clock Central daylight time. Welcome back. It's a Monday edition of the Bumper to Bumper program on a beautiful seventy two degree afternoon here in the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. I am the host of the program. My name is Dan Berrero. Justin Gard is the producer, and we are delighted you chose to join us today. We're gonna get right to it because our first guest has already checked in. Patrick Peterson is on the Connecticut Water Systems Hotline, fresh off the London trip and the Vikings victory over the New Orleans Saints. He's probably not going to appreciate that I already have the club at four and one because they haven't played the game yet. But that's what I see, Patrick, Welcome back. Congratulations on the victory. I see four and one right around the corner. I know I don't have to play it, but I watched two games yesterday. I watched your game and then I got to watch the Bears take on the Giants, and I will be shocked if you do not if when we talk to you next Monday, you are not at four and one. Okay, I mean that we're definitely going to put in all the work that we need to to prepare or a really good, you know, sneaky Chicago Bay football team. You know, so they're sneaky. Yeah, there's there's they're sneaky. You might not have to worry about the past, but um, I know, I know you can't. You know, those are not things that you can Um, you can't live by that because that's how upsets happen. I understand it. Let's talk a little bit about yesterday's Yesterday's ball game. A slog of a game against the Saints when the late quarterback change is made. I assume you're preparing all week for the starter, because even though Jamis was listed as questionable much of the week, the feeling was they're just resting him, that they intend to play him with something obviously changed, so he doesn't he's not gonna go. Um what does that do to how you guys are preparing and even the way you go about your business? On Sunday. Uh, it goes a lot goes into it because you know, like you said, you know, preparing all week for Jamison, you know, we're all doubt in on his tendencies, things he liked to do, you know, a certain reads he'd like to take and things like that. So and when the backup comes in, the whole strip is different, you know. So now although we have a little bit, you know, we understand Andy a little bit, have an opportunity to play against him last year against the Bear, but it's still difficult preparing for a backup quarterback because those guys are not the whole playbook is not available to them per se. It's a little bit more ordered down or dummy down for him to be successful. And sometimes that can, you know, be hard for us because we're so sold on our game plan and now we got to try to you know, maneuver and change things around the day of does it in general? You know, you've been around a long time, so maybe this wouldn't affect you because you've been in a lot of different circumstances. But when a team, the team you're facing, is without its number one quarterback, without its number one running back, without its number one receiver. Is there a concern that a little bit of overconfidence can can seep in to say, well, this is a game that we should be able to win. No, not at all. I mean, obviously we're going too every game preparing to win the game, but we never want to overlook any opponent because it's it's any given Sunday. You know, anything can happen on any given Sunday. So we want to make sure that we're just going out there and doing the things that we need to do to be successful and by an by enemies necessary, get the w It can be ugly, it can be pretty, it can be close, you know, no matter how it outcomes. The outcome, turnout, the turnout of the outcome, we got the dub, you know what I mean. So it's hey, has a lot of things that we can we can continue to improve on, things we can clean up. I mean, but every team you know, goes through that, even after win. You know, it's things that they can go back and be like, oh, Wes, we miss these opportunities, you know. So that's that's the beauty of it. You know, we had opportunity to to watch the table put in the bed and now we're you know, looking forward to you know, to the Bears. So let's talk a little bit about maybe a sneaky statistic that um tends to go unnoticed, but I think is important. I believe I have this stat right. I don't think your defense had was penalized even once through the game. I'm pretty sure that's true. Maybe there was one or two declined, but I don't think so. Saints obviously had a lot of penalties, especially defensive penalties, a couple that I think we're kind of shaky, but they have done, They've been penalized a lot. So how much pride do you take in that as a defense? And what's because everybody says, we don't want to make mistakes like that, we don't want to be penalized, We don't want to make it easier the opposition, But obviously it doesn't always happen that way. So what's the key to sort of imposing or creating that kind of discipline? I think what our defense, the way that our defensive structure that we have the ability to play with eyes so understanding where your help is. We're not really never in a panic, you know situation. You know, teams that have that man situation like the New Orleans Saints gonna be more sceptable to acceptable to the Falls because they're more in your face type defense, you know. So we're a defense to where we're passing a lot of things through, we're reading concepts of the routes that's coming out to us, so we're not more acceptable to those type of plays. And when they when they throw the ball downfield, man Cameron do a great job of getting our head back around and making a play on the ball, as he did, you know, last yesterday, and as I did last week. You know. So it's a lot goes into that, you know. But you know, as the DVS are, we we live on an island. We live, you know, we live against the against the odds anyway, So just you just that we're we're just the guys that just have to roll with the punches. You know. It's interesting you say that I was watching I don't know if it was from yesterday or over the weekend. It was either a podcast an interview that Ed Reid did you know, the former a great defensive back for the Ravens, and he was laying out you know, basically how um and maybe I know, all defensive players say this, but I think he's right. Just the degree to which everything is stacked purposefully against the defense, certainly against defensive backs to a large degree in past coverage. And we all get it, you know, people like scoring in the league. Feels like that's what makes the game more interesting. But there are weeks where I go, Man, the pendulum has swung too far. Now, I maybe, like I said, hanging, maybe he's offering you up a hanging curveball to a defensive back. But um, what do you say to that? Does that frustrate you at all? Does that does that concern you? Do you think the balancing act has been has been blown up here? I definitely don't think it's an even playing field, you know, but as deep defensive backs, you know, we just it's been that way since football started. You know. We just have to find a way to continue to play within the rules of the game, you know, if they're not. And the biggest thing is it's just the fact that the referees don't have a good enough view of the receiver when we're guarding them, when we're in position of the receiver. And that's the biggest um uh, you know, consumption that why offensive guys don't get the files that that you know that you should see because every every receiver push off on every top of the route. It's not a receiver that does not push off on the top of the route. It's just the fact that the referee from miss angle, he is above the receiver and I the only thing he see is me, so he can't see what the receiver's doing. So I think, you know, if we get and I know it's hard, you know, we can't get more referees on the field to chase the game a little better. But as dvs, you just have to find a way to continue to play within the game of the rules, I mean, within the rules of the game and and just try to continue making plays. I mean, it's it's hard. It's hard, but just the life we live. I'm gonna try to put you on the spot here speaking of passion inference penalties, Um, what did you think of the passion ofference penalty on Latimore with Adam Feeling where they're kind of wrestling and jostling and so forth. What did you make of that call? Which one you're talking about because he had a couple? Is that the one Uh, the one that's shut up the touchdown to go line. Yeah, the one that then shut out then yeah, yeah, that was I mean, that was a PI because he never got his head around and he was pretty much face guarding, and that's in the rules. You can't you can't run into the receiver without locating the football, just splaring your arms and make a contact with him, you know. So that's that's within the rules. If he would have been able to just continue to run to the receiver, because what I'm talking is obviously continue running to the receiver, into the receiver getting the indication that the ball is coming, then that's when I'm gonna look back because nine time about the ten the ball is going to be underthrown. That ball was underthrown. So I never really want to be in a panic stage because nine times out of ten, like I said, that ball is going to be under thrown. So get back in position and just read through the receiver. And once you read through the receiver, then you would be able to get you your head back, you know, if you have good enough ball skills, get your head back and you know, make a play on the ball. But that was definitely a pr Patrick Peterson is our guest and the fan you mentioned Danceler. He makes a really key play for you at second and nine, just over two minutes to play in the game, and Dalton goes deep trying to complete a pass to Chris Olave and very very good reaction from Danceler. I know I saw some quotes from you sort of as this, you know, the the the the the senior statesman so to speak, who's been working with him a lot, that it was a point of pride for you. M what did you see on Well, he couldn't have probably seen it live on that play because you're busy doing something else. But that had to be a reassuring moment because it was obviously key play and ultimately led to the fact that the that the that your opponent of the Saints had had to go for that sixty yard field goal as as as opposed to maybe continuing to drive and even scoring a touchdown, right that was that was a very very pivotal playing that game. And I actually had an opportunity to watch that play live because I was off. I saw Andy Dalton looking his way the whole time, and my receivers just ran like a five yard stop or something like that, and um, I saw the ball go up. I saw Cam in great position. He tried to look for the back shoulder because I thought he I knew he thought the back shoulder was coming. So he located the back shoulder, meaning he was face guarding the receiver. And then once he realized that the ball was thrown over his head, he did a great job of locating the receiver before locating the ball. And that was just an an incredible reaction on his behalf of doing that because most most dvs was just trying to locate the ball. The next thing you know, you're losing the track of the receiver. He's continuing to run away from you, because you got to remember the quarterback is not throwing the ball to you. He's throwing the ball to the receiver. So he did a good job of getting in his head back locating the receiver, and once he understood the ball was coming, as you look on that clip, he gets his head back, he noticed the ball was right there, breaks up the ball and made the key playing in that game is what is the key from your perspective for danceler beat to become a consistent contributor as that particular play certainly revealed to get that consistency that you're kind of associated with when people think of your name, what's the key to him to getting to that spot? Just continue to show up like that every Sunday, just like I tell him we talked. He'll tell you we talked all day every day. He probably he probably gets tired of me sometimes because I see the potential in him. You know, I'm I'm gonna continue to push him as long as I be there, because he has all the tools. He just had to find a way to be consistent, find a regiment, find a process that works for him to where he's comfortable with. And that just takes off running because like I said, well yesterday it was probably his best game that we that I've seen him play with us together in the ballgame. You know, So I want to I want to continue. I want to continue to see him grow on that because on that success, you know, because you know, because sometimes success can go to people's heads, and sometimes some guys can bottle that success up and continue trying to move forward to it. And that's what I want to teach him to do. It you're regarding your own play, there's always the question of, all right, how much of your success at this point is your head, is your experience, your savvy, your knowledge, how much of it is still what you're able to do physically. I guess what I'm asking is, are you would you consider yourself past your peak physically and that you make up for that because of knowledge and the brain and using what you've learned, or how would you sort of I guess figure that out in terms of what it is that that allows you to continue to play at a high level. Man, it's funny act that because I don't. I don't feel like I'm out of my peak physically, because I'm still hitting speeds at you know, twenty twenty one miles per hour, you know on the football field, you know, so you know, my physical attributes, my skill level, my speed is still there. Now that I've played the game so long, the game is just tremendously slow for me now because I understand what teams want to do. I understand certain formations. I understand you know, down and distance. You know, I understand when they get the midfield they want to take a shot. I understand the ridzone they want to try to attack the middle of the field. It's just things that comes with me with my experience and how many games I don't played in my career to where I played much floor then I need to. Then I played much slower. Um, you know, then I have to you know, so because I don't have to play at a full level all the time, because I can. I want that service that I can coach my way through games. But I can. I can be in the game and understand what the offense want to do based on that first five team plays in that game. So now I have a fill of the game. Now I know spots they're trying to attack. And now I'm not from that point. Now I'm just playing football. Late in the game, you know, they end up they tried the before they got to get in position even to try the sixty one yard field goal that ends up being a double Donk. I want to talk about that. You're reaction that in a minute. But um, the fact that they're able to make a lot down pretty deep downfield completion disappointing, great throw. What did you what happened on that play? What do you make of it? I thought we were just a look, just a tad bit too deep and not coverage. But it was a great throw. It was a great throw. It was online and U aim a great throw. I just thought on that was just a little bit, a little bit deep in non alignment. And as we always you know, as you were playing a game as a as Pop Warner, football is a game of inches of you know, you know, so I think we're just a little inch off from that play, and you know, luckily we weren't two inches off to make that feel go closer so he can make it. What was your view of the double of the double doing? Uh, excuse me, excuse me, um the double the double point it was. I was rushing up to the kicker. We actually I can't remember they called. We called the time I think called the time out. So I started talking trash to the kickout. Was like, all right, man, you remember what I did on Monday night against Philadelphia. You better make sure ninety two blocked me because I'm going to block miss kick if you don't get a hand on me. So I'm trying to get it into his psychologically. So he's trying to he's walking off. I'm walking behind him. He's trying to hear me off. I'm still walking So now the players, A boy, the players didn't play. Now we get down, we get all set. I didn't get a good enough jump off because we wasn't like in a safe We didn't want to go all in to the to where they could force us off side and make the kick get uh closer. So he had an advantage on me because I was the only one rushing off the corner. So he got a pretty good he got a pretty good link off me, and uh he shoved me out pretty good. And uh. Now I looked back at the kick and I watching, I saw it started swerving to the right as a little bit. I said, keep on pushing, keep on pushing, and if I remember, I started blowing to win myself like and then I saw it hit the bottom right and didn't even hit the upright, the bottom right, and then it hit the middle bar, the cross bar, and I was like, yes, the ball is finally bouncing out our way. It was. It was unbelievable, it really was. But by way, what are you doing as a veteran player still on special teams? What the hell's that all about? Now? Man? Like I told you a couple of weeks ago, I love field goal block, like I don't know what it is about it. I just love field goal block because you have an opportunity to change the game. Like you never knew when that opportunity is going to come. You never know, And I always want to be evolving those playmakings, those those big plays that we that the Minnesota Factors make. Two last things for you, Patrick Peterson, our guests starting the show on the fan. Let's get a quick scouting report. It's very early obviously on the Bears. Um, but and they are. They come into this game two and two, they lose to the to the Giants. They have they've had very much difficulty throwing the ball. They've been a really good running team. What what based on what you know at this point, what stands out to you? Just like you said, you know, those guys are going to find a way to run the football and try to rely on to a defense to put their off as in a good position to take away possessions from our offense. You know. So, um, you know we have to do a good job of you know, stopping their run and trying to force Justin to beat us, you know, trying to force them to beat us with his arm. You know, we know he has a great arm talent, But like you said, those guys been struggling thus far this year in the passing game, and we dang so we don't want to have those guys. To have those guys to get a kickstart of the passing game. Here Sunday the the NFL. The NBC broadcast last night before the Sunday night game, Rodney Harrison said this. I want to get your reaction to it. They were talking about the to U situation. I would implore these young men don't go back on that football field if you get hurt. I don't want them to have to feel like me and so many other former players that had to deal with concussions. Um, what do you make of that? Just get your reaction as a veteran player to what he had to say, and maybe more generally, your own reaction to the way the tour story is played out. I think Rodney hit it on the head man. I don't think you know this game has worked your health, especially when it comes to your head. You know, you know I didn't. I don't know you know Rodney's story or anything like that. But you hear so many stories of former players, you know, battling these issues and you know, and then so many guys was you know, hiding away and wasn't receiving the health and wanted to be mister iron Man. But at the end of the day, your health is what matters when this game is all done for you. You want to be able to, you know, think your way through life. You know, you want to be able to still be able to relate to people, as he alluded to far as having you know, better relationships, you know, his marriage, his friendships, you know that thing those goal along way, you have to realize that you're going to live much longer than he played this game, you know, so you have to make sure. I know, everybody loved this game. I love this game very dearly, just as much as thirteen hundred other guys that's in this game with me, you know. But at the same at the same token, your health, especially when it comes to the mind, it is so much more important and another player, you know what how it is though in real life, Patrick, players want to play. Sometimes they have to be they they they you know, to count on them. It's difficult because they're young, they're in the moment they go, yeah, I know what happens, but that's not going to happen to me. It's it's it's it's got to be I mean, sure you can speak to it. It's got to be tough in that moment. That's why I say it has to be tough. But I think me as an older guy and other older guys, just continue to bring awareness to it, you know, just because like this situation just happened. You know this too, or you know, could have been severely injured. You know, if that, if anything, uh would occur even further, you know, if that, if that tackle was even harder, you know, per se. You know. So it goes to show that you must take care of your body first. You must take care of your mind first, because if you want to go in for another play, that might be your last play. Yeah, why did you would want to go into the game fifty when you can come back one hundred percent? Did the NFL system fail to us? I cannot answer that question. I wasn't there. I know that the NFL, you know, they have different consultants on the sideline during their job. You know, last time I you know, I had a concussion in two thy fourteen. You know, they did everything by the by the guidelines, and you know I wasn't able to return back into the game, so I cannot answer that question. I guess we have to wait for other info to come out about that one. But it's it's fair to say you think this is there. There needs to be continuing discussion on this to get to that. Whatever that sweet spot is, we gotta you need to get there correct, no doubt about it. I know that. I think just seeing this situation that just happened, um, it should bring more light to it and just have guys more aware of the severity of of you know, of the other injury to the head. You sound fresh, By the way, did you get any sleep? Did you you know? Did you sleep? I know there was a debate, I guess among players teammates whether you're supposed to sleep on the plane after a game or not. How much sleep did you get? What's your approach? Could you sound good? I got I got about three hours of sleep on the plane. We just man, we had a good win. So I was enjoying that, watching some movies, you know, just enjoying some conversation with the guys across the pond. And I got about three hours on the last leg of the flight. I got home, showered up, uh, got me a quick bite of My wife made some amazing pasta. It was awesome, so I had some possible before I went to bed. Woke up around ten and they say I got to stay up all day to day to get back on schedule. So I feel good. I think I'm back on schedule. I'm picking up my dog right now. We're about to go on a walk outstanding. Well, good to have you back. I'm glad you made it back safely, and congrats on the victory. And thanks for giving us extended time at at the start of the show. It again today. We'll chat next week. Thanks Patrick, all right, dad, thanks ever be good Patrick Peterson to start the show, great great stuff from him on a number of subjects. Why don't we break break here and we'll sort of set up. We'll get caught up and set up the rest of the program. We're not done with the board and Volvo guest lineup as well. A lot of Vikings talk today. There might be some Gophers conversation. There were stretches of a very busy of TV viewing day for me on Sunday when I was convinced, utterly and completely convinced that at the start of today's show, we were going to be your lost weekend leader. Gophers had already laid an egg at home against the Purdue boiler Makers. Inexplicable performance that takes the shine off of takes the sheen off of everything we were all saying about the direction of this program. Don't email me. I know that the season is still redeemable. Nevertheless, it just just took the starch out of everything, and I see the Minnesota Vikings in trouble against the team that they should have been able to beat more easily. Meanwhile, across the border, also on Saturday, Wisconsin Badgers not only lost at home, they were humiliated at home. They weren't even competitive at home against Brett Bielema's belly. They lost. My god, they just got taken to the cleaners. They got killed, they got routed, and ultimately it appears that it led in part to the dismissal of Paul Christ, a subject will get into in more detail tomorrow. Glenn Mason, Wednesday regular is going to join on tomorrow's show and later Sunday after the Vikings game, well much later, because this was I think this was a three twenty five start. The Green Bay Packers are trailing the New England Patriots at Lambeaux. No Tom Brady for the Patriots. No regular first stringer, the guy who's replaced him. What's the name of the regular Brian Hoyer. No, the regular Hoyer was replacing Oh Mac Jones, Matt Jones. So John out Howyer's starting, and then Howyer either gets hurt or doesn't play well or a combination of balls. I think he got hurt because I was out of the game and they were, and I was just like, whoa they throw in a kid? Names? Is it Zappy? They get to pronounced zappy? Not sure whatever his name is. He's from Western Kentucky. He was on their practice squad and he was forced to go on into duty. And despite that fact, the Patriots definitely second half, might have even been fourth quarter, we're ahead of a Green Bay Packers ahead. And so again I'm going you want to talk about a lost football weekend in Wisconsin. Now, in both cases, as it turns out, the pro teams stood tall at the right moment. Vikings got it done across the pond, and ultimately after a dreadful first half, Aaron Rodgers statistically worst first half of his career, correct returns to form, is very dominant in the second half, makes every throw basically that he has to make, get some help from, you know, his running game as well. But he threw spectacularly again again, and you know it's the new The new Rogers way isn't necessarily it's going to be a fifty two yard pass or sixty yard pass. A lot of times it's going to be a twelve yard, thirteen yard er here, fifteen yard or there. It's it's almost brady like in a way. And the Packers hold on, they get the late they get the late field goal, just like we got the late field goal. They didn't have to worry about a double doink that might have sent it into ot because the Patriots were not able. The Patriots actually did move okay, but couldn't get far enough to to try a field goal. And no, in fact, what am I talking about? The Packers game ended with the kick, did it not? I think that kick ended literally ended the game. So but I'll be honest with you, I feel about both of the pro victories the same way eked out. I'm scratching my head and I'm going, how did this? How did this happen this way? How are the New Orleans Saints still in this game? How are the New England Patriots still in this game? And you know who had the best quote after the game that applies not just to the Vikings, and it should say not just to the Packers, but to the Vikings Aaron Rodgers, who at some point apparently said something to the effect of it's great, we're three and one. Great to get a victory, but this is not sustainable. Okay. And I know Aaron Rodgers can drive us crazy. I know we hate him. He can drive me crazy. He loves himself enough for the rest to shake in his head when a play doesn't go right, and you're assuming he's shaking his head because he's mad at somebody else as opposed to himself, even though in the first half I think he was actually mad himself because he was awful, yelled at his center yesterday. That was a good hot Mica butt sweat related that the bleeping ball. Yeah, regardless of all of those things, it's an important I think it's a it's a significant message for not just the Packers, but I think it applies to us as well. I don't think this is sustainable once we get to that place where we're playing better teams or healthier teams. Not the Vikings fault that the Saints were decimated, but if I picked up the scent nationally that people watching that game were kind of rooting for the Saints, and I think it's because of that. I think it's the old underdog thing we got. They don't number one quarterbacks out, best running backs out, best wide receivers out. They're starting right guard is out. I think they had a couple of other people banged up and they're hanging in this thing. They might steal the game. So I think a lot of people who ordinarily wouldn't have a rooting interest were kind of hoping that it wasn't going to be a double doink, that the kicker after making a sixty yard field goal is gonna make a sixty one yard field goal as well. Maybe it was Patrick Peterson blowing that did it. Blowing the ball that was tremendous. It was outstanding, So that would be my overarching message, No, you never apologize for winning. The best combination is we know we need to get better. But in the interim we're sitting at three and one with the Bears coming in. That's got to feel that part of it feels good. But I don't know how anybody could feel good or great about saying, well, this is a team that looks like it's going to separate itself from the pack, no pun intended, not Green Bay Packers d pack. And by the way, the pack is huge, more than half. I think like twenty something between twenty or twenty four teams is either two and two or worse. In the NFL. Right now, there's only one four team already. There's only one undefeated team left right the Eagles, and they got behind early but came back. So we got a lot of Vikings talking points to get to, and we're going to definitely spend a lot of time on some of the key plays that went the Vikings way, that were well done, that were indeed well played, and a couple that I think raise pertinent questions that quite frankly, are going unanswered because Mike Zimmer's not coaching. Even though if Zimmer were coaching under these same conditions about clock management, a couple of other things, people would be losing their minds that's about winning feels good at three and one, or that we just have to assume that that no, Mike Zimmer's the anti Christ, and this guy our kevinly father can't be, even if he seems to be repeating some of the same mistakes all of that. Fan Nacho Lieber is on the Abortant Volvo scorecard today. He will join at four fifty five this evening. Ben Lieber four fifty five. Patrick Peterson, if you missed him, we're going to replay our interview with him. It was right off the top of the show. We'll probably replay that about five fifty five, or maybe you have to make it five fifty to be get it all in. He was excellent on a number of subjects, not just the game itself. Put some reaction to the to a story, and it's interesting because the assumption is made the player who at that deposition, who's as long in the tooth as he is relatively speaking, can't be at his physical peak any longer. He definitely had took issue with that notion, and I don't even know if it's a statement about him as much as the assumptions we make. The longer somebody's in it right in the skill position you go, we can't possibly be at his peak physical condition, so we're assuming he's getting by on as much as anything good savvy. Now, he didn't deny that savvy knowledge experience help him to do his job and maybe even conserve energy to a certain extent. But we'll play that back if you missed it. He was outstanding again today. I want to get your reaction to an email. This is from emailer Paul, subject line not sustainable. Yes, but we are not one and three either. I see the purple winning games they would have lost last year. We don't panic. We seem more relaxed in very tight situations. I believe that starts in the sidelines and works its way to the players. Can you get yourself to credit KOC for that? I will hang up and listen. It's a good look, and ultimately it may tell the story of this season. I am willing to concede that point. Call me too much of a ZIM enthusiast, but I'm not willing four games in to compare one and three from a year ago to three and one now, because the particulars matter. We lost one game last year on a chip shot field goal. Did we not one of our first where we missed it? Lost? Yes? Yea Arizona, Arizona right, chip shot field had the game won? Chip shot field goal? Pa even said it was good. That's right about that? And then we lost. The first one wasn't on a Dalvin fumble. Yeah, okay, So unless you're telling me Dalvin is more likely to fumble because Zim is the prince of darkness, didn't say hi to him and didn't say hi to him, I'd say, well, And let's also mention another thing. Our first was it our first two games in the road last year? I think they were both on the road, Cincinnati and eras Zona. We started this season with a home game against the Green Bay Packers. So what I'm saying is I get the eagerness to paint these contrasting pictures as further proof that this guy gets it and that guy didn't. But I'm not. I still think it's dangerous. I still think it's too easy. I think it's simplistic, and so no, I'm not ready to say the only significant difference between this year and last year is Mike Zimmer was coaching last year and we started one and three, and we've basically played the exact same way, but we're sitting at three and one. Where are you on that point? I don't think it's that symbol. What I like about it and what I'm willing to accept is the fact that they are still trying to figure some things out on both sides of the ball and are doing that in victory, which is always better. But I think I said this last week, at some point there does have to be the payoff, and there does have to be the consistency and that we're gonna find out down the road that you can't figure out after four weeks. You know, there's gonna be a time where you want to see the offense go for thirty. You want to see you want to see them sustain what they did on that first drive, which was excellent. You want to see them, you know, carry that in for a half. You want to see the defense not have to do the bend but don't break, which they've done a handful of times, right, correct, So I'm fine. I mean, I think it's encouraging that they're finding ways to win because I don't think it's been very clean. I mean, I know it hasn't been very hasten, and so I think that that's a sign of a team that can do some good things. But I also think it's very difficult to rely on that, you know, for the rest of time in perpetuity. At some point, you got to get better if you want to truly separate yourself. You're in great shape already in terms of the playoffs, because everybody gets in the playoffs, and you're sitting at three and one, a great, great chance to be four and one, and I haven't know, then who do we play after the Bears? Is that the defense? Now the Dolphins down there? Well, okay, then yeah, then things could get more interesting. But you have a good chance to get a good record and give yourself a chance to deal with the possibility of some losses down the road. I just I just the eagerness with which, look, there is a skill to winning scrum games, to winning close games. I don't deny that, And in fact, I kiddingly was saying that was my biggest concern for the Gophers was they're not going to keep blowing everybody out the way they did the first four opponents. Are we kind of unaccustomed to actually being in a ball game, and they looked unaccustomed to it, quite frankly, and didn't do enough to take advantage of I think was still a very winnable game after the slow start. But so there's a skill to it that you can even say, well, winning not on your best day, there is something to that. But I'm we're comparing I still think we're comparing apples and oranges, and we're so. To me, it's as simple as if what if our kicker the game winner was forty I think, so what if he misses that kick right, and that was a longer kick he was being asked to make, by the way, than the chip shot that if Joseph was a Joseph last year, Yeah, who missed the one in against Uma Arizona. So we can we can, we can pretend that that is all about how we're prepping different. Now we're looking ahead. Come on, well, I'm the kicker, that's where I was going to go next. Yeah, maybe that's as simple as that. Has Mike Zimmer ever had a kicker go five for five now he missed an extra point, which, by the way, you know, proved to be Yes, Has it allowed me to forget it, to do all of that, but has a kicker under Mike Zimmer somebody can look it up. Ever, gone five for five, including the game winner. I'm I'm guessing yes, do you think so? I think we can find it. Maybe not. I'm not sure this kicker didn't. Maybe not. Greg Joseph didn't. But he also missed an extra point. Yeah that's true, which, as you say, really opened up the door did to the game being extended. Yes, as long as it was right. I mean, yes, it's great that he made the kick, um, but that's still got to enter into the discussion. So no, I I'm not you know, I feel good about being three and one because look at the number you know, get online, look at the NFL standings, because I know nobody gets the newspaper at home anymore, and take a look at the number of two and two teams or worse already in the National Football League. It's astounding. Now, a lot of people would say that's what we're all looking for, and everybody's in it. No one's out of it four weeks in. But so three and one looks really good already. You're already you're giving yourself a bit of an advantage at this very early part of the season. I've got twenty three teams on a quick count that are two and two or worse. Think about that. How many teams are in the league thirty two and the Rams and Niners two and one, one and two they play tonight. Well, that's good, So that's got to be two one. Well, no one of them. Could be three and one, yeah right, yeah, could be one. Also, could be two, could be two more. And San Fran people think are decent. That's true, and their season may have been saved because their starting quarterback got hurt. Hurt. Yeah, that's not usual circumstance for although he wasn't great last week, Jimmy G. Was a little shaky that the Jimmy G. Hayters had a little more material if they had their moment. Yeah, we're on the other side of that equation. Of course. We've got several talking points. I want to get to my first talking point, and they're all brought to you by a Red Savoy Pizza as well. I want to get to that first one as we enter into our number two of a very football centric edition of