WHY RAT BIG? Rat King, Baba & the New Deadlock Meta

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Welcome to Deadlock! It's me, Omnistar! And I'm
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joined by the extremely verbose Yarn. And apparently
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I'm ascending to a new level of Super Saiyan.
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But a new patch has come. Technically, I think
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that's what they're called right when they release
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a character. But we're stewing in the major update.
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There's Red King and Baba. And a lot has happened.
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So let's jump into it! Get in the van! Today's
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date is the 7th of October, 2026, and there's
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a lot to talk about. I think you have some thoughts
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about one Rat King. Rat King? He's the king of
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the rats. Should he have been voiced by Theo
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Von? We're not sure. I think that... You mentioned
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this the other day, we were talking. He feels
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maybe like he almost is not a character from
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this game, which is interesting. How do you feel
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about that? Do you feel like that I'm... Because
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I still feel that way when I play him and see
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him. He feels like he's from a different game.
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I feel like and I said this to you at the time,
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but I feel like he feels to me like an easier
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warden in some ways less CC, but just that kind
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of like gun tank archetype. Yeah. What about
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the way he looks? Let's let's I fucking love
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the way if we're talking about yeah, if it's
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character design, I feel like he's like one of
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the most interesting characters. And you mentioned
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that you thought he's too big. I feel like that
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I wonder if maybe the model was smaller when
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they started making him and now it's bigger because
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they were like, he has to be huge or else he's
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too tanky. You know what I mean? Dude, he's so
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big. He takes up like a whole like third of the
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screen, it feels like. And he towers over even
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like Abrams, which is insane. Like I and then
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his cape like obscures so much. I think if they
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like there's almost a part of me that's like
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I want a mod that just gets rid of the cape.
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And then I'd be okay. You know what I mean? The
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capes fucking huge. Yeah, in the screen. I think
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a lot of people would like the field of view
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on the game to be a little wider than 90. You
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can put it in with like, command, whatever, but
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I have not gone that deep. So I mean, I like
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in terms of I think to be clear, I think he looks
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cool. And I think his abilities are cool. I like
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him as a character. I just there's something
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about the way he looks that doesn't It breaks
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convention with some of the other animalistic
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characters in the game. But also, like, who knows?
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They might change those characters later on.
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But he feels like from he feels like I'm watching
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like a character ripped out of like a old school,
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like animated, you know, 90s movie or something
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about like the rats control New York or something,
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which is both fun and at the same time feels
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very different. You know, I mean, I just. fucking
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love how much they're leaning into the like New
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York aspect of all of it. Lore wise, I think
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it's very, very cool. You know, they just make
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up words Ratania and all of a sudden this is
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like a new part of the lore, right? It is interesting,
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though, in terms of what sort of anthropomorphized
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characters actually live in this world, because
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up till now, I thought it was mostly just like.
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Billy seems to have changed his head into a goat
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magically, so he's not a goat person. Yeah, something
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like that. And I don't even know what Rem is.
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Like, I haven't looked into it too deeply. But
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now it's like there are anthropomorphized rats.
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And I mean, we're getting into the goofy sort
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of Pluto situation. If you guys aren't aware,
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you know, the goofy Pluto thing. So Goofy is
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a dog and Pluto is also a dog. Is that what you're
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talking about? Yes, and one of them is anthropomorphized
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So now we're getting into like there's regular
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rats and there's a rat king who's like a guy,
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right? So it's yeah, we haven't I haven't we
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try not to look at the lore So we save it for
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the lore section when we like we're surprised
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by it or whatever But I'm sure there's a reason
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why he's bigger than most other rats Just the
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same reason with like Moe from Moe and Krill,
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right? He's a giant man Yeah, I guess he's anthropomorphized
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too. Yeah. Yeah, but he might be from like a
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race of mole men. Who knows? The more I'm thinking
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about it, the more I'm realizing that there's
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actually a ton of because there's also Viper.
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And there's also like, who else? Anyway, so maybe
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being anthropomorphized, but like, are there
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regular snakes, too? Or is it all just like snake
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people? I mean, I have a feeling that all the
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characters in this game are explicitly exceptional.
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It's more just that I like I think that there's
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something about the way that the level of detail
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he has and stuff like that just feels a little
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bit. But I also think it's mostly the size. I
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think that there's something about the size of
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him that feels Gargantuan right like yeah, just
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so unbelievably big The The other thing I was
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gonna say is that you know, obviously we have
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The and what I think is a complete different
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feeling as Baba is out and Baba to me could not
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feel more Like she fits in the game, right? It's
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like you're talking about New York stuff and
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all that but she's like it feels like such a
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Classic Deadline character already even after
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coming up for one day Yeah, and one question
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I had for you because I didn't play much Dota
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or League was that is Baba similar to any Dota
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or League characters in terms of like her stealing
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spirit power and kind of leading people back
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into little like melee traps? There's definitely
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a combination of characters that are similar
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here. Like I think that there's definitely it's
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I would say I think her I think it all plays
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very differently in a third person or like, you
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know, like kind of over the shoulder feeling
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because her spirit steal, her one is very unique.
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It shoots out in the line. It runs across the
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floor and anyone that touches it like that's
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totally unique, I think, to this game. I don't
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think I can think of another character that does
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that. There are characters that passively or
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actively steal spirit power, you know, mystic
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or whatever you want to call it. the depending
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what game you're in, but the I mean she gets
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spirit sap for free and like more powerful right
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and and I don't know about you if I'm in lane
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and I'm Mina I'm you know any of these like maybe
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Calico Apollo if somebody has spirit sap on you
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you're like you just god damn it like great and
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by the way like the the long legs thing with
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the melee like that's that all feels very unique
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and different like there might be characters
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that have like ground pounds and things like
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that. But like it just playing it in deadlock
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and in this type of like viewpoint and you know,
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is just so different than it. To me, this feels
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like a very original character in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, sure. I'm also I'm kind of wondering for
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the listeners to like, if they would want us
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to go through Yeah, the kids, the kids, they
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want us to go through all of the abilities because
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like we're talking about long legs right now.
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It's like, for somebody who hasn't played in
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like a week or whatever, that probably just sounds
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insane. But like, she looks on her bed, Baba
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rides around on a bench and the wrought iron
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legs actually grow to like twice their size and
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you get a big speed boost, you get a jump boost.
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You can kind of do that Baptiste thing from Overwatch
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where you hold crouch and then like, boy, boying
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like bounce into the air and then you get like
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a big ground pound a la Mario. I mean, her heavy
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melee is just changed into literally you automatically
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fly up into the air and smash on the ground just
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by holding heavy melee, which is sick. And then
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the movement tech that I've already seen people
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doing with her is insane. Like she's on that
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character. Melee build right away. Get it done.
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Stat. Get it. Get me pictures of Baba with a
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melee build right now. Get Peter Parker in here.
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Parker. But I was just blown away that Baba made
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it in as the second character. Like everyone
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knew Rat King was coming. And I'm almost like,
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I almost wonder what streamers or like what affiliation
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of streamers like number of streamers were pulling
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for Baba because I'm like, it's just interesting.
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She's an interesting character design for sure.
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And you mentioned this before, like, she's more
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interesting than like most of the other characters.
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But I still thought people would be like, No,
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dude, I want a cool guy. That's why I thought
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for sure dead man Danny or Solomon was next.
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My favorite, my favorite meme that came out after
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she was picked was like, of course, the goon
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slop character one. Yeah. I mean, like Rat King
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was inevitable, but like I said, I the other
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day I called out, I was like, I called you and
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I was like, like, is Baba out yet or whatever?
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And you're like, well, they haven't announced
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what character it was. And then it ended up being
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Baba. But I think I might have I was just subconsciously
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going off of the voting badges that you see at
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the end, where I was like, there's a lot of Baba
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here and my own, you know, bias of being pro
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Baba. have voted for no one but Solomon and that's
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also because I've gotten into chess recently
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and I just am interested and I'm curious what
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his whole thing is gonna be somebody was making
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the joke that his alt will just be a game of
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bullet chess which would be fucking great but
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that's very unlikely my real -life son has recently
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gotten the chess he's a single digits age and
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he they have a chess club at their school and
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he calls it chest So he says, Dad, I'm into chests.
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And I'm like, yeah, me too, son. Me too. Hell
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yeah, brother. High five, kid. Get in here. Black,
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white, doesn't matter. I like them all. Yeah.
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The I also would say I told you this earlier,
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but I said I'd save it for this conversation
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is that. There is I'm sure in the 10 ,000 voice
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lines for everyone that they added that there's
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like all kinds of spoilers and you know people
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alluding to new characters, but there's a interaction
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with Billy and Baba where they ask you know Billy's
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like oh I can't believe I'm meeting the you know
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Central Park pigeon lady. This is crazy and Baba's
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like oh, you're so sweet Is that what they call
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me and he's like yeah, you're a legend. He's
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like hey is the Is the crazy guy with the like
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the doomsday guy out here who yells in the middle
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of the street and she goes, oh, Jerry, he better
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not be here. Yeah. And they like kind of allude
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to like, he's like, well, that'd be sick if he
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was. And he's like, well, for his sake, he better
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not ever show his face to me. I was like, damn,
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dude, if they have the crazy doomsday homeless
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guy on the street, like as a character in this
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game, that'd be sick. Dude, they better. That'd
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be amazing. In Boston, what was he called, like
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Screaming Phil or what? I can't remember this
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guy. There was this guy, there was a guy who
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used to hang around Park Street and go like,
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spare any change, spare any change. So like everybody
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knows him that would walk around Boston Common
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for any reason. There's a dude, there's a one
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of the cities I lived in, there was a guy who
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literally would just start talking to you explicitly
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when you went up to the, like if you cross the
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street, he'd be like, are you having a good day?
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Are you worried about the Lord and the end of
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the world? It's coming. And he'd like look at
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you and point at you and he'd comment. on the
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specific food you were eating or whatever you
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were drinking, and be like, is that a delicious
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sandwich? Is something about that level of intimacy
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with someone like that? You're like, I just would
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go around the block to avoid him, because I didn't
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want to interact with that. Yeah. He's basically
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doing crowd work. He's just taking you with the
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Patriots hat. You look like a blue collar guy.
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What's your name, Jeff? And then he goes into
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his regular material. The world's going to end.
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The by the way, I just wanted to take a moment
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to say that we've gotten a lot of people listening
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to the podcast from all over the world to dad
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luck and If you want to support us and and keep
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up with all the crazy plans and things we have
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Kind of in the in the queue in the hopper Feel
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free to we have a discord that we started so
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the link will be in the description Plus you
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can follow us on YouTube and other places to
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help support us and and grow what we do I don't
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if you want to say anything about that YouTube
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discord only fans everywhere. Yeah, wait I Said
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something I posted something on tik -tok that
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got taken down and it was a clip of us talking
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about Baba's huge slang Baba Yeah, and it ticked
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off took it down But the text said if you make
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this into fan art this audio clip, I'll send
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you a picture of my feet painted blue And none
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of that got through the filter so No one probably
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said that. Well, for your children's sake, I'm
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glad it didn't get through. Hey, you know what?
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There's nothing wrong with a nice pair of blue
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painted feet. And I would do it. I was going
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to fully commit. And also, there's no way your
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kids are on TikTok. So that's another good thing.
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Thank God. I mean, our children are on TikTok.
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The kids spread arms and gestures widely. The
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children, the kids. Your children, your heinous
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little dolls you keep in that room of blocks.
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Gross. Don't mention that on air, please. I have
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no problem playing with dolls, but I've seen
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those things. They have human eyes. Like a doll's
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eyes. But make sure you like, follow, subscribe,
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all that stuff. Send us your hate mail and rule
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all things Breadlock as well. Breadlock. Wait
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That's our secret podcast rather than a podcast
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at this point. Bakers and Internist players assemble.
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It is Breadlock. The thing I was going to say
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was that you've played quite a bit more than
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me. I've played a good handful of games since
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everything's come out, but I think you had some
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thoughts about the meta and... you know, kind
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of like the lower ELO stuff that we talk about
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and like where that is. So there's lots of, so
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there's a couple of disclaimers here, which is
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that we are not talking about the meta for, you
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know, God love them, all these streamers, the
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Deathys and the SKs and all these people who
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are wonderful and their content's great, but
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they're playing at a level that is like not gonna
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be attainable for most people. And so if you
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want to have fun playing the game and win some
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games, there's like a whole literally just everything
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from like Phantom and lower. There's going to
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be a bit of a change for your play style and
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what you're wanting to do and pick characters
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you want to pick. And for instance, somebody
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making a tier list for a turn this might not
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say Hayes is overpowered. I've never heard any
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attorney say Hayes is overpowered. Right. And
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yet and yet. in every game some, you know, haze
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or Wraith just takes over. It's okay if people
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on the other team, if there's a haze in the other
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team that's fed and the rest of the team isn't
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doing that much, the KDA is not there, they're
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missing all of their utility, they're missing
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a lot of their CC, it's totally okay to buy that
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metal skin. You know what I mean? It really is.
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And I know that I know from my own journey through
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deadlock, active items can be a little bit tough
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for people starting off. But like, Literally
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hold it until she tries to alt you and then pop
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that metal skin and you just live. I mean, you
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know, this goes into a larger conversation of
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something that like we've noticed, because like
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I'll play with you and or we'll play standard
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games or something like that. And we see that
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there's like there's people who obviously AFK
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down land and do whatever they want. You're never
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going to know those people. Those people have
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to help themselves before you can help them.
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Right. Sure. the like once they're getting into
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like people who want to get better at the game
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and they're in the low yellow, like there's a
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part of me that's just like, first of all, like
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stay back behind your wave, whatever. Right.
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We talked about that before. But like when it
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comes to buying and countering and what do you
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do and all this stuff, because people like very
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quickly give up and go, there's nothing we can
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do. These you have to remember that, like at
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higher levels of play, like to your point earlier,
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Hayes is not. that big of a deal because you
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don't want to force feed her and get her to pop
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off, right? That's a whole separate issue. But
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she's easy to counter, all things considered.
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There are characters that are way harder, that
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are much harder to counter if they get fed, right?
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Like, countering a very fed Calico is going to
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be way harder because she's going to come at
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you really hard. She's going to attack the people
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who are weaker on the team. But when it comes
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to Hayes, it's just like, just back up, get out
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of the way. You know what I mean? Like, you giving
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her space and then counter buying or you're playing
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against someone who you can buy knockdown. Make
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sure you or someone else buys knockdown and you
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save it for the exact moment that you need it
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for. Right. Because that's that's just an easy.
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It goes from being like, how do we do anything
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to being like, wow, I win every match now because
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I'm knocking down seven or or bebop or whoever.
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Right. Yeah. And dear listener, you may be better
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at the game than us. But I mean, for the listener
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that is like kind of getting it together and
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just like interested, you know, I have this thought
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in my head that is a metaphor of a yin yang.
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right? So in the world of MOBAs, if somebody
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is pushing the left lane, right, you can kind
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of think about that as like sort of the black
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part of the yin yang that's pushing up. So what
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happens? You're pushing up on that lane, the
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other lane is probably especially if you have
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like four people on your lane, you're putting
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a lot of energy and effort into it, they're going
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to push somewhere else. And if they're not, then
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they're just really, really horrible. But like,
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think about that for yourself, you see your team
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on the other side of the map. You can't get there
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in time. You're pushing the whole team's pushing
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left lane. They're on a team fight that you kind
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of feel like that's not going to go well. Just
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push the lane you're in because you know that
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less people are going to be there. I was going
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to say that the to talk about what you're talking
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about and just a completely separate way to is
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like people will oftentimes show up elite to
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things. Right. Yeah. If you have to be predicting
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where you need to go, the waves coming to Greenwich.
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and it's coming, it's almost there, you gotta,
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someone's gotta go there, we can't lose that
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tower, right? If that's the only tower left and
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there's people fighting on blue, let the people
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fight on blue. Now, if you're like the thing
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that's gonna push it over, maybe, but it's at
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the end of the day, is it really gonna be worth
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losing the tower and also potentially that team
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fight, right? You have to kind of make a snap
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judgment call of being like, how do I, you have
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to have a cue in your head of being like, what
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are the most significant things for us to get
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and what are the most significant things and
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damaging things for us to lose? And once you
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have that in your head, you can look at the map
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and go, OK, well, we lost every other guardian
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and now we're going to walker. Right. You lost
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every single guardian and walker except for one.
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And we I have to go there because there's a,
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you know, a drifter pushing it solo, which means
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that if you don't go there, he's just going to
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take it. And you look at the team fight in the,
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you know, happening somewhere else on the map.
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You're like, I don't know if I can win that.
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So make a judgment call. And then whatever you
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do, at least you you made the decision to do
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what you ended up committing to. Right. Check
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I check him with myself every like 15 seconds
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like okay And I just asked this question Would
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it have been better to just be getting boxes
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right now? You know every 15 seconds how many
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souls can you get in 15 seconds on boxes a decent
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amount? How many souls am I getting from the
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kill that I'm splitting with four people on blue
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because I just keep fighting and chasing this
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one Victor You're not getting the souls you're
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not This is a difficult one because there's people
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who do that in the opposite direction where they
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just afk That's true. That's true. I mean, I
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feel like some of it's just game sense and getting
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a getting more hours in the game and being like,
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Oh, I mean, that Victor actually, he has no alt.
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He's half health. There's already two people
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on them. I'm just going to jump out of the doubles,
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you know, room and pop them right that that's
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and it's about your character. What else do I
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have? What do I have something with heel, you
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know, heel reduction, whatever. Yeah, no, it's
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true and the you know, sole economy and all that
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stuff of who's fed and who's not Yeah, the idea
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the um, the other thing I was gonna say just
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like to segue into talking about because like
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right now the lower ranks It feels like they
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are just an absolute slog to get through and
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climb through grind grind grind grind grind grind
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And then also you're stuck playing with people
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who have played the game a bunch and know that
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enough of the game But maybe they don't always
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make like the best decisions or whatever You've
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got people who are I think playing totally normal
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and should be getting out And then I there are
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people who literally have like have drool. I
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mean, there's people who have no idea what they're
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doing and they know that. And then there's the
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other people who think they have an idea what
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they're doing and they're just drooling and like
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smashing the keyboard and like raging at everybody
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and, you know, saying slurs and stuff like that.
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And that is the seemingly, you know, the first
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like three lower ranks. Just that's just what
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it is right now, which is like real rough, because
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how do you you have to be real strong to carry
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your way out of that shit? Yeah, I mean, I had
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an infernus in a game the other day. rat king
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from blue goes into his lane on green or yellow,
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whatever. And he takes he ganks, and then he
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stays for the wave. And he says he makes a calm
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he's like, you know, let's push Guardian. A minute
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later, after the kind of a failed Guardian push,
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whatever. The Infernus just starts raging and
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being like, you messed up my economy for the
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whole game. And it's like, he was in your lane
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for a minute. And I'm talking about we're at
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we're still in game at like 40 minutes 41 minutes.
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He's still complaining about that. Yeah, I understand
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the early game is important. Like it definitely
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is important right now. Arguably too important.
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I think that the comeback mechanics are probably
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not good enough right now. But like, holy shit,
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dude, get over it. Go farm something. Yeah, no,
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it's definitely I think that though, I mean,
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the rank season, like I said, got extended into
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November. And then I think that they're gonna
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I wouldn't be surprised if something Changes
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I my personal take on this and people are gonna
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probably hate this but I think they should reset
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everyone and drop them all back down and Then
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make the time to get so like in other games usually
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the time to get out of the lowest ranks is faster
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If you can win, you know ten games in a row That
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should be enough to get you out of you know a
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lower rank, right? Like it's not something that
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you should be committing to 30 games 30 wins
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and then however many other games that you're
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not losing, right? Yeah. Because like that at
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that point, to just get out of brick. Well, you've
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shown your competent if you can get, you know,
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a dozen wins in a row or something like that,
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like any more than that is just like grind, grind,
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grind. And there's nothing that doesn't it doesn't
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this game doesn't reward you for grinding yet.
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You know what I mean? Well, and it's also like,
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I mean, the classic thing of it doesn't have
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any kind of system for. taking value from what
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a character has done versus just winning the
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game. So like, if you are a rem main or a page
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man or whatever, I'm not saying it's going to
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be those characters actually might be pretty
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good to climb with just because they provide
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so much value. But like, you know, I for for
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myself, I know I just win way more games on Wraith
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than I do other characters. It doesn't mean I
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want to play Wraith every game. You know what
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I mean? Well, I have a thing that I Was thinking
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about that. I talked to you about that. I I'm
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wondering how you feel about it now after you've
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played a bit, which is that the map I have thoughts
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about. I think it's beautiful. I think it looks
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really cool. The amount of additional geometry
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on the floor in certain places and on walls and
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on corners of stuff is killing me. Like it's
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like killing some of my movement. It's like making
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it hard to play some characters like the tree
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on Greenwich that is in like the Midland area.
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where you have to go over all the routes and
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your character models like going up and down
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like that shit kills me when I'm sliding and
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stuff. How do you feel about all that stuff?
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I mean, it's been seemingly a direct nerf to
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Moe, who would love to burrow. Yeah. Indirect
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for sure. And then for the most part, I think
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I don't know how I feel about it yet, because
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like, you know, I had memorized a lot of little
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get out positions in the old map and You know,
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it's like I'm nostalgic for the old map. Now
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I'm looking up like, you know, you see a video
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of like anything from over a week ago, whatever.
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And it's like, yeah, it's very, very different.
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I I think that they I might have I kind of almost
00:24:51.779 --> 00:24:53.700
feel like they did too much a little bit. I think
00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:55.700
that the visual stuff and I think adding and
00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:58.480
cleaning and refining some of like them or the
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.319
nooks and crannies and pathways and stuff like
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.680
that. The sunken plaza, the bell tower, I think
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.539
all that stuff is totally fine. I think that
00:25:05.539 --> 00:25:09.000
it's literally the lanes. to me, need to feel
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.059
way cleaner and less chaotic and insane. Because
00:25:12.059 --> 00:25:13.880
right now, like if you look at Fairfax, we were
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:15.240
just we just played a game where there was a
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.740
big fight on the in the Fairfax Industries, like
00:25:18.740 --> 00:25:22.599
York section right towards like one of the walkers.
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.460
And it's just this big open sandpit with like
00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:28.099
all these like corners that are like far off
00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:31.160
or it used to be that back pathway that you could
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:34.640
cut through above behind the walker. And. It
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:36.180
felt really good because you get to fights back
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.920
there and do all kinds of stuff. And now it's
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.180
just like a big, open, empty area that nobody
00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:42.859
would go into unless you want to fucking die.
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:44.880
You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. Shiv used to
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:46.259
love to fight in there. Now it's like probably
00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:49.019
wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of places
00:25:49.019 --> 00:25:51.180
like that. I mean, dude, there's some areas that
00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:53.839
are just like dead ends. Right. I mean, which
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.059
might be on purpose, but I've definitely found,
00:25:57.059 --> 00:25:59.740
you know, where that little like cave troll guy
00:25:59.740 --> 00:26:03.099
is. Yeah. I mean, that whole area. Yeah, I just
00:26:03.099 --> 00:26:07.180
hate that because I mean, there's a couple places
00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:11.039
in the game where an update to cosmetics has
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.359
made like a new dead end. And it's not even the
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:15.519
big ones like that. And by the way, there is
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.319
like a little like invisibility pit over there.
00:26:17.339 --> 00:26:20.369
So it's something at least. There's a part on
00:26:20.369 --> 00:26:21.730
I don't know if it's Greenland or yellow lane,
00:26:21.730 --> 00:26:24.750
but they added lights to the left and right side
00:26:24.750 --> 00:26:26.690
of the lane. So if you're walking backwards,
00:26:26.730 --> 00:26:29.769
it's just a new snare to get snared on, right?
00:26:30.029 --> 00:26:31.490
And by the way, that is just a little light.
00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:33.759
It has happened to me a couple of times. Yeah,
00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.119
I'll be I'll be doing movement like really clean
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.839
what feels like good movement I'm like, oh, I'm
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:39.420
getting used to the map and then I'm like flying
00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:41.519
back and I just hit a random object and also
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.480
by the way I don't know if they change collision
00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:46.309
but I'm getting caught on objects way more than
00:26:46.309 --> 00:26:47.910
I used to where I used to just kind of slide
00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:49.890
around the object and I wonder if they've like
00:26:49.890 --> 00:26:53.910
really made the Collision boxes for some of this
00:26:53.910 --> 00:26:56.190
stuff more detailed or something to get caught
00:26:56.190 --> 00:26:58.519
on because I'm not like just sliding around it
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.539
the way I used to. I'm kind of like getting snagged
00:27:00.539 --> 00:27:03.750
on stuff a lot more, which sucks. Yeah, I mean,
00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:06.670
and I will say, you know, on your favorite podcast,
00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:09.089
two old men complaining. This is the content
00:27:09.089 --> 00:27:10.990
you come here for, obviously. Just shakes visit
00:27:10.990 --> 00:27:16.109
sky. Yeah. I hate good things. It's the prerogative
00:27:16.109 --> 00:27:20.490
of a dad to complain. Yes. Yeah. I think that
00:27:20.490 --> 00:27:26.279
the old map had some weird idiosyncrasies as
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.720
well. I just think that we had come to know them.
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:31.980
And I also think that since everything was like
00:27:31.980 --> 00:27:35.140
the same sort of beige and brown, it was very
00:27:35.140 --> 00:27:37.759
easy to see what I can do and what I can't. But
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:39.720
like there was places before where I'm like,
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.000
you know, like, there's a bunch of places in
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.160
the game in the game now and before, where there's
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.980
just invisible walls, there's like weird skyboxes
00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:50.279
that are lower, seemingly in other places than
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.819
they should be. So it's it's all just learning
00:27:52.819 --> 00:27:58.750
the map. And it's also, you know, I wonder if
00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:01.150
the community had a big problem if Valve would
00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:04.230
just be like, yeah, I mean, the the it's not
00:28:04.230 --> 00:28:05.609
finalized, right? I mean, they could probably
00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:07.569
change it again. I think they'll change it. I
00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:09.369
do think that they put a lot of work in it. I
00:28:09.369 --> 00:28:11.230
almost wish that they had made some of these
00:28:11.230 --> 00:28:13.849
changes more incrementally to see how it worked
00:28:13.849 --> 00:28:15.650
out. And then what happened is they made a huge
00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:18.430
change really quickly. And I think that the visual
00:28:18.430 --> 00:28:20.450
part of it will just never not be impressive.
00:28:20.690 --> 00:28:23.369
Right. It just is beautiful. It looks way better.
00:28:23.990 --> 00:28:26.750
I think. You said something that I've struggled
00:28:26.750 --> 00:28:29.250
with almost immediately, and it's not just the
00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:33.730
map, it's also the UI. It just feels less visually
00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:36.829
clear what I'm looking at, and everything is
00:28:36.829 --> 00:28:42.089
more overwhelming and noisy to me. The HUD, we
00:28:42.089 --> 00:28:44.650
can talk about in a second, but in addition to
00:28:44.650 --> 00:28:46.490
the map being more beige and neutral and all
00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:48.029
these things going on, and then when there is
00:28:48.029 --> 00:28:49.990
stuff going on, it's a fuck ton of stuff everywhere,
00:28:50.329 --> 00:28:52.150
and then all these new camps, which are really
00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:53.940
cool and amazing, and I think they're They look
00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:56.039
awesome. I think they sound great. But like some
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:57.859
of them like those like lantern things. They
00:28:57.859 --> 00:28:59.380
fly up in your face and kind of get in the way
00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:00.779
of the camera and all that shit. And I'm just
00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.650
like, there's a part of me that almost wants
00:29:03.650 --> 00:29:06.569
there to be some in between here where it's like,
00:29:06.869 --> 00:29:08.430
I still can know what the fuck is happening.
00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:10.250
And I'm not being like, what the what is happening?
00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:12.549
Where am I? Like, what is this? Like, you know,
00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:14.650
no, it really isn't. It's not just getting used
00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:16.329
to the space. It's literally just like how it's
00:29:16.329 --> 00:29:18.190
visually communicated to you. No, 100 percent.
00:29:18.269 --> 00:29:20.819
There was a fight that happened in I played a
00:29:20.819 --> 00:29:23.299
game before me and Omni just played a game. But
00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:26.559
before that, I played a ranked game with Wraith.
00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:30.259
And we eked out the victory, but we had one team
00:29:30.259 --> 00:29:35.029
fight in the theater. And, you know, I'm trying
00:29:35.029 --> 00:29:36.869
to do the thing that a good carry should do,
00:29:36.869 --> 00:29:40.380
which is like, sort of not get killed. I'm standing
00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:42.619
behind my tanks. I'm kind of, you know, in the
00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:44.500
mid area or like kind of a little bit behind.
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.480
And I'm just pumping damage in. And it's like,
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.430
there's the lighting. There's the different color
00:29:50.430 --> 00:29:53.990
of the theater. There's all the fucking camps.
00:29:54.329 --> 00:29:56.690
There's all the you know, there's all the boxes.
00:29:56.890 --> 00:29:58.829
There's a bunch of flashing lights from the sinners.
00:29:58.930 --> 00:30:01.650
Then there's three or four enemies three or four
00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:07.440
of my team like some of it I know is just, you
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:08.980
know, it's all inscrutable when you're kind of
00:30:08.980 --> 00:30:11.420
getting used to something new. I remember learning
00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.950
Overwatch like When you first come into a game
00:30:13.950 --> 00:30:15.950
like that, you're like, there's just colors everywhere.
00:30:16.029 --> 00:30:18.329
You get used to it over time, right? But I do
00:30:18.329 --> 00:30:20.930
think that the level of visual noise that's been
00:30:20.930 --> 00:30:23.490
added is just maybe something to get used to.
00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:26.230
Maybe I would say Overwatch is the one thing
00:30:26.230 --> 00:30:28.869
I do like about Overwatch and like this visual
00:30:28.869 --> 00:30:31.849
style that game is not lacking, right? Like it
00:30:31.849 --> 00:30:34.930
has its aesthetic. The maps are very clean and
00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:37.910
I think communicated very visually well. I don't
00:30:37.910 --> 00:30:40.170
like to me, I don't find Overwatch to be like
00:30:40.170 --> 00:30:43.309
visually overwhelming. in the like this genre
00:30:43.309 --> 00:30:47.869
of games. I think that this game has so much.
00:30:48.009 --> 00:30:50.589
It's such a big map. It has so much depth. And
00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:52.549
like for a MOBA, if this is a MOBA and this is
00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:55.289
all just the trim, you'd be like, OK, that makes
00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:57.869
total sense because it's beautiful exterior on
00:30:57.869 --> 00:30:58.970
the edges and all that stuff. But at the end
00:30:58.970 --> 00:31:01.170
of the day, I'm like running down like a clear,
00:31:01.170 --> 00:31:03.250
a clear lane where I'm like right clicking through.
00:31:03.269 --> 00:31:05.150
When you're walking through all this stuff, I
00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:07.130
feel like it feels very different and there's
00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:08.869
it has a different impact when you're trying
00:31:08.869 --> 00:31:11.480
to navigate it. And I think that that increases
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.980
the skill ceiling and skill expression potential.
00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:16.359
But I also think that there's parts of it where
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.160
I wouldn't be surprised if they clean some of
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.119
the shit up because some of it does feel like
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.910
the dead ends, especially are like, you're like,
00:31:22.950 --> 00:31:24.750
oh, why am I going over here? Like, why is there
00:31:24.750 --> 00:31:26.609
an empty corner of the sandpit? Like, there's
00:31:26.609 --> 00:31:28.230
something fun over here. Like, why? Why even
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.250
bother? Right. Yeah, there's one over by that
00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:33.650
sort of purple, you know, cloud pool or whatever.
00:31:33.970 --> 00:31:36.789
Yeah. Yeah. There's another one over there. Like,
00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:39.200
it's I think. when you walk down that little
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.559
escalator stairway, whatever, to the right of
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:43.720
you, it's just like, that's just where someone
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:48.299
goes to die. And I understand that stuff might
00:31:48.299 --> 00:31:52.829
be intentional anyways. You know, because sometimes
00:31:52.829 --> 00:31:54.390
it sucks to be following somebody forever. And
00:31:54.390 --> 00:31:57.450
then they just get away no matter what. But it's
00:31:57.450 --> 00:31:59.410
all just knowledge checks. Like, does somebody
00:31:59.410 --> 00:32:01.309
know it? Like, I probably would have got caught
00:32:01.309 --> 00:32:03.089
there, except that I looked at it earlier today
00:32:03.089 --> 00:32:07.619
and was like, make a mental note. Don't die here.
00:32:07.619 --> 00:32:09.500
Don't go down there. Don't go to the death pit.
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.640
Yeah. I mean, we'll see. My counter to that would
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.660
be that the old map felt like it flowed really
00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:17.079
perfectly. Like you just like everything was
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:18.880
easy to be like, I know where I'm going. I'm
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.559
not going to get caught on anything. I know how
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.000
many stamina pips I need to get through. And
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:24.660
some of that will be learned. But there is stuff
00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:26.880
where it's like, I do want to like feel like
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.019
I can go in any direction. And if I'm my movement
00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:30.779
is good, I can just flow through that segment
00:32:30.779 --> 00:32:33.019
like an under like I can look at it and go, I
00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:35.269
know exactly what to do here. to get out of the
00:32:35.269 --> 00:32:38.069
situation, right? Whereas like right now, it's
00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:39.490
not even to do with like the fact that I knew
00:32:39.490 --> 00:32:41.349
the previous map better. It's literally that
00:32:41.349 --> 00:32:42.990
some sections you just there's nothing there
00:32:42.990 --> 00:32:44.990
isn't an answer to that question. Right? I mean,
00:32:44.990 --> 00:32:47.450
I just don't like blue anymore. Like I used to
00:32:47.450 --> 00:32:49.549
want to play on blue a lot. Because I really
00:32:49.549 --> 00:32:52.269
liked especially I play a lot of pocket. I when
00:32:52.269 --> 00:32:55.859
I'm playing pocket in blue. Now it's just like,
00:32:57.430 --> 00:33:00.109
it's just like those little areas that used to
00:33:00.109 --> 00:33:03.130
go down into the the mid boss area. They're just
00:33:03.130 --> 00:33:06.710
way more claustrophobic. And and it's cluttered
00:33:06.710 --> 00:33:09.369
with the trucks and stuff. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:10.089 --> 00:33:14.650
So I mean, it looks cooler. It's, you know, it's
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:18.089
visually very cool. Yes. And again, it just might
00:33:18.089 --> 00:33:21.329
take a little bit of finagling and learning and
00:33:21.329 --> 00:33:24.470
whatever. I mean, you know, we are we are old
00:33:24.470 --> 00:33:27.970
dads and brains are taking this stuff in at the
00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:31.230
rate that it is. I don't like that they changed
00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:33.789
things. I wanted to go back to the way it was.
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.440
Put on that original deadlock on a on a Commodore
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:43.450
64. Shut up, Grandpa, get back in the hole. That's
00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:45.789
Grandpa Lock. That's a different podcast. Somebody
00:33:45.789 --> 00:33:48.230
was trying to run this on a switch the other
00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:50.829
day, and I was like, what is going on? You know,
00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:54.450
good luck to them. The other thing I just want
00:33:54.450 --> 00:33:56.150
to mention, too, before we move on from like
00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:57.609
the changes and how we feel about everything
00:33:57.609 --> 00:34:03.210
is like the HUD, the UI is actually. personally,
00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:05.210
my biggest gripe, and I know we might have different
00:34:05.210 --> 00:34:09.090
takes on this, but my side of it is that there's
00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:10.730
just so much stuff they added that I just don't
00:34:10.730 --> 00:34:13.889
need to see. I don't like the new, in practice,
00:34:14.050 --> 00:34:16.730
do not like the new health bars. I'm glad I can
00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:18.510
change the names off them. I don't need to see
00:34:18.510 --> 00:34:21.289
my teammates icons floating around the map with
00:34:21.289 --> 00:34:24.309
an imperceptible distance measurement in meters
00:34:24.309 --> 00:34:26.710
that I can't even read. And then I don't need
00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:29.480
to see my spirit investment on the left. I wish
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.760
I I hope that they add more quality of life so
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.300
that because those things I think can be good
00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:35.239
for new people. Like I think seeing where your
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.840
teammates are on the map, I think seeing your
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.840
investments more clearly, I think all that's
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.260
like helpful to people who are learning the game.
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.500
But I do want to be able to turn it off because
00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:45.760
like right now the game just when I'm looking
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.300
and I'm playing, I'm just like there's so much
00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:49.280
more crap on my screen than there used to be.
00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:53.670
I mean, I agree with all that stuff. And just
00:34:53.670 --> 00:34:55.949
to put things in perspective, we're talking about
00:34:55.949 --> 00:34:59.980
what is probably still me and Omni's game of
00:34:59.980 --> 00:35:03.199
the year, like everything is Graham of our life.
00:35:03.739 --> 00:35:10.460
I mean, you know, it's it's amazing. But some
00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:14.380
of the HUD changes have had, I think echoes in
00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:18.980
the actual gameplay. As far as like, I had a
00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:23.019
dynamo who bought refresher as his first item.
00:35:23.949 --> 00:35:25.949
And it makes you wonder if that was a result
00:35:25.949 --> 00:35:31.030
of the new popular items page. Because, yeah,
00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:32.929
I mean, there's just stuff that is different
00:35:32.929 --> 00:35:35.530
than it used to be. And, you know, we've played
00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:37.650
the game a lot. Other people haven't played it
00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:41.260
a lot. I mean, who knows? You know, they could
00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:43.440
also just been an intentional idiot. You know
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.000
what I mean? Yeah, sure. But like, yeah, I think
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.719
a ranked game, it's like a little crazy to buy
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.280
your first item is refresher. But yeah, yeah.
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:51.460
I mean, it could also be a meme. There's people
00:35:51.460 --> 00:35:53.019
doing it because I mean, in a standard, it was
00:35:53.019 --> 00:35:55.059
a standard or ranked. It was ranked. That's why
00:35:55.059 --> 00:35:56.980
I was like, oh, my God, that's we still won.
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.840
But it's like, come on, dude. The the I I mean
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.880
like I think that it's too early because it's
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.400
only been like a little bit and like I'm you
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.920
know Obviously like let it all play out and i'm
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.460
sure they'll make some changes and obviously
00:36:07.460 --> 00:36:09.219
I think quality of life stuff. I have to imagine
00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:12.940
they'll fix and add more customization uh to
00:36:12.940 --> 00:36:16.880
a lot of this stuff and like I said I this game
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.739
doesn't have you know, you talk about some of
00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:20.679
these things are good for new people A lot of
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.219
this game is you know, you have to go watch youtube
00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:25.179
videos and have a friend teach you if you don't
00:36:25.179 --> 00:36:27.789
have familiarity with like MOBA stuff or team
00:36:27.789 --> 00:36:29.809
shooter, you know, you know character shooters
00:36:29.809 --> 00:36:32.769
and stuff like that and This stuff will help
00:36:32.769 --> 00:36:36.469
new people but also they like I said before like
00:36:36.469 --> 00:36:38.150
way earlier is like they need to help themselves,
00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:40.909
right because There's a level of you have to
00:36:40.909 --> 00:36:43.289
go research and listen and you know Be nice to
00:36:43.289 --> 00:36:45.309
somebody and see how you can help them in the
00:36:45.309 --> 00:36:49.269
game go refer them to your favorite YouTuber
00:36:49.269 --> 00:36:51.889
or whoever and be like, go learn how to build
00:36:51.889 --> 00:36:53.789
this character and play it right. Because that's
00:36:53.789 --> 00:36:56.150
the nicest way to do it. As opposed to like what
00:36:56.150 --> 00:36:57.510
I do, which is just rage at them and be like,
00:36:57.570 --> 00:37:02.610
what the fuck are you doing? God damn it. Stop
00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:05.989
buying refreshers, your first item. I mean, a
00:37:05.989 --> 00:37:08.710
negative calm is like always a bad thing. But
00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:11.409
I also think, you know, whatever. They're lucky
00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:13.449
I can't reach my hands to the microphone and
00:37:13.449 --> 00:37:16.440
strain. Yeah, I'm definitely doing some. I'm
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.980
doing we've talked before about the what the
00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:20.820
vibe carry. I'm definitely doing some social
00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:25.420
engineering to get my teammates to you. You put
00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:27.340
your hands into a power triangle and you're like,
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.139
you're beautiful and your family loves you. Now,
00:37:30.139 --> 00:37:32.340
listen to me very carefully. The next steps are
00:37:32.340 --> 00:37:35.460
going to be quite important. Yeah, we would we
00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:37.119
would be doing better in this game if you had
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.619
thrown your computer away. I want you to sell
00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:43.880
everything you have and buy cursed relic. Yeah.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.039
Can you go by knockdown? Go by slowing hex. And
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.000
also, you don't know how to use them, so actually,
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.219
just stop feeding, just sit and fuck. Yeah, go
00:37:51.219 --> 00:37:53.659
into the corner of the map and count to a thousand.
00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:58.500
Yeah. Literally be more useful. Yeah. But I mean,
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.340
again, the game's still changing early. All this
00:38:01.340 --> 00:38:03.099
stuff, like, they're getting, I'm sure, a bunch
00:38:03.099 --> 00:38:04.900
of data and all that stuff. I'm curious to hear,
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.400
like, what the higher ELO players that they listen
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.159
to so much about, like, you know, the streamers
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:10.940
and stuff like that, being, like, what their
00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:16.010
complaints are. Because slowly. us lowly beings
00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:19.170
here below in the fucking not upper ranks of
00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:22.349
the game. I feel like we need to I want a bone
00:38:22.349 --> 00:38:25.530
of some kind because like I have a family. I
00:38:25.530 --> 00:38:29.989
have a life. I can't be playing like 500 games
00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:32.590
to just get out of like whatever I got knocked
00:38:32.590 --> 00:38:34.489
down to. You know what I mean? I got knocked
00:38:34.489 --> 00:38:37.510
down to like the top of Seeker and I literally
00:38:37.510 --> 00:38:40.670
haven't been able to play enough to like. do
00:38:40.670 --> 00:38:42.849
anything other than like, oh, I win five games
00:38:42.849 --> 00:38:44.530
in a row and then I lose two. Right. And then
00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:46.329
I'm like, not moving up enough. And then I'm
00:38:46.329 --> 00:38:48.070
kind of like not incentivized or feel like I'm
00:38:48.070 --> 00:38:49.710
doing good, even though my win ratio is fine.
00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:52.150
Right. Like I'm I have a positive win ratio.
00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:54.489
I'm just not playing enough games to make any
00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:59.130
movement. So no, it's definitely super grindy.
00:38:59.550 --> 00:39:01.909
I think that that's the community seems to be
00:39:01.909 --> 00:39:06.719
in full agreement on that because I know, you
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.199
know, I don't know. I've heard people talk about
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.320
they don't want. there to be too much, like,
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:18.619
and what is it? Performance based kind of like,
00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:20.719
oh, if he gets more kills, maybe you don't lose
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.199
as much. It's like, I understand that sometimes
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.199
that means somebody just pumps damage into a
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.599
fucking useless target the whole game for you
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.219
know what I mean? Like, we've seen those kind
00:39:29.219 --> 00:39:33.599
of things happen in other games, too. But there's
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.460
I think more needs to be done with the matchmaking
00:39:35.460 --> 00:39:38.480
system. That's my take. Yeah, I think that. You
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.619
can fix the point system after. I think the matchmaking
00:39:40.619 --> 00:39:43.119
is like what I agree. It's like, well, so this
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.960
is I can't remember if we've talked about this
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.460
before, but like, tell me and the children in
00:39:48.460 --> 00:39:51.059
the van, feel free to send us your mail to dadlock
00:39:51.059 --> 00:39:54.400
.podcast .gmail .com or join us on Discord or
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this. Go to would you say only feet? Yeah, that's
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.119
the one. Yep. And leave comments on the pictures
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.369
of our feet. The. The thing that I'm wondering
00:40:06.369 --> 00:40:08.070
about other people's experience is like when
00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:12.309
I, you and me will do OQ and it'll be like, it'll
00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:15.050
drop everything on every other person on our
00:40:15.050 --> 00:40:16.690
team gets dropped to like the lowest possible
00:40:16.690 --> 00:40:19.329
rank and everybody on the other team is like
00:40:19.329 --> 00:40:21.429
the same rank as me or higher. And I'm like,
00:40:21.449 --> 00:40:24.869
how is this always the way it splits into this
00:40:24.869 --> 00:40:27.170
like setup, right? Or it'll be like, if I'm playing
00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:29.769
a solo game, it'll be like, I'm either having
00:40:29.769 --> 00:40:33.510
to be the carry for the entire team or it's like,
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.420
some, you know, complete shit show with like
00:40:36.420 --> 00:40:38.619
everybody is just all over the place in terms
00:40:38.619 --> 00:40:40.159
of rank, right? Where it's like some people have
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.219
never played the game. Some people are, you know,
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:43.619
also, by the way, I still don't understand how
00:40:43.619 --> 00:40:44.940
you get into ranked and you don't know some of
00:40:44.940 --> 00:40:46.639
the stuff. But that's a whole separate issue
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:48.739
because the barrier to ranked is already a thing
00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:50.559
that a lot of people were complaining about that
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.340
were in like the lower yellow. And yet they still
00:40:52.340 --> 00:40:54.869
seem like there's people coming in and don't
00:40:54.869 --> 00:40:57.570
know what they're doing. I'm fully OK with that.
00:40:57.570 --> 00:40:59.570
I mean, this is probably an unpopular take, but
00:40:59.570 --> 00:41:01.389
like they should double the number of wins for
00:41:01.389 --> 00:41:04.900
the characters. And I understand that doesn't
00:41:04.900 --> 00:41:08.380
make sense for like page or whatever, but like,
00:41:08.380 --> 00:41:13.059
it is painful. It is so painful. And I really
00:41:13.059 --> 00:41:17.739
do think that if you are improving faster than
00:41:17.739 --> 00:41:21.820
other people, you will rise, right? But it is
00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:24.599
so grindy. And there have been games where like,
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.900
you know, especially if I'm not fucking around
00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:29.440
and playing like some character, I just want
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:33.699
to play if I'm just like, queuing as Victor Wraith.
00:41:34.389 --> 00:41:37.289
You know, whatever, just like high win rate characters
00:41:37.289 --> 00:41:40.849
carry characters just to get out. I'm still just
00:41:40.849 --> 00:41:44.530
like getting MVP or I'm getting a key player
00:41:44.530 --> 00:41:47.090
in a lot of these games. And just I understand
00:41:47.090 --> 00:41:52.050
it's a problem of just grinding it out. But like,
00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:55.820
it's sex, you know? I mean, nothing feels as
00:41:55.820 --> 00:41:59.039
this joke earlier, but like, how strong do you
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.000
have to be to carry some of these teams? Right?
00:42:01.139 --> 00:42:03.980
Like you getting a key player when the other
00:42:03.980 --> 00:42:06.079
team wins and like, you know, you or, you know,
00:42:06.099 --> 00:42:08.000
even MVP or something and you have like the highest
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:09.599
stats across the board, but you couldn't carry
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.719
the game because one depends on what character
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:15.019
you're playing. Right. And then two, it's just
00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.500
I don't know if it's possible to carry so hard
00:42:17.500 --> 00:42:20.059
if the enemy team is not feeding you. If the
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:21.559
enemy team is feeding you, then I think you can
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.300
easily carry a game. But if your team is feeding
00:42:24.300 --> 00:42:27.940
and the other team is remotely competent, I personally
00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:29.980
think the odds of you carrying any given game.
00:42:30.139 --> 00:42:33.199
is super low unless you're just like absolutely
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:36.019
fucking insanely cracked and like every no every
00:42:36.019 --> 00:42:38.239
inch of every thing you're doing like through
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:39.920
and through and through and you're like a full
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.380
time streamer who plays like a fuck ton of games
00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:45.159
right i mean that that is the thing the number
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.579
one thing i think to uh improving is intentional
00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:54.000
thought in a game but the number two thing is
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.489
probably just time in game I don't think there's
00:42:57.489 --> 00:43:00.710
any that I really don't think there's any thing
00:43:00.710 --> 00:43:06.010
you can do to substitute for just repetitions.
00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:08.750
So it's grindy. And you know, also not to just
00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:10.869
be like doomer about it. I mean, the games that
00:43:10.869 --> 00:43:13.269
I'm losing are even like, sometimes fun. It's
00:43:13.269 --> 00:43:16.809
like, but for me, I'm like, you know, I'm teaching
00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:19.670
a lot of people the basics of the game and this
00:43:19.670 --> 00:43:23.590
kind of stuff. But it's a it's grindy as shit,
00:43:23.650 --> 00:43:28.579
man. I'm in low rank. It's grindy. Well, do you
00:43:28.579 --> 00:43:29.980
have anything else you want to say about the
00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:32.420
the new update and new characters Rat King and
00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:38.690
Baba? I like how good the animations are in them
00:43:38.690 --> 00:43:42.250
like it it bodes well for what the re reworks
00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:43.610
of other characters will be like I feel like
00:43:43.610 --> 00:43:49.050
this is so far maybe the best crop of like actual
00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:51.469
animation I mean, when you're walking backwards
00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:55.480
as Baba her body like Kind of jiggles around
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:58.000
and wobbles like an old like heavyset woman's
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.019
body would like it's just like it's just like
00:44:01.019 --> 00:44:05.119
the level of down. Yes. No, but like I mean,
00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:10.780
it's like the feathers on her, her coat and all
00:44:10.780 --> 00:44:12.400
this kind of stuff. Like there's such a level
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.099
of detail in this new character. And the same
00:44:15.099 --> 00:44:18.159
thing is true for Rat King that, you know, the
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.889
rats reloading the gun. Yeah, so cool, dude.
00:44:21.909 --> 00:44:24.570
It's just great. And I think that was there to
00:44:24.570 --> 00:44:26.769
a certain extent with like, I remember everyone
00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:29.969
was so excited about Billy kind of chewing his,
00:44:29.969 --> 00:44:34.090
his ammo and spitting it out, whatever. But this
00:44:34.090 --> 00:44:36.030
is just seems to be on another level of polish.
00:44:36.929 --> 00:44:39.050
Yeah, I agree with that. I think exciting stuff,
00:44:39.250 --> 00:44:41.349
man. I think the future looks bright for the
00:44:41.349 --> 00:44:43.030
game. But I think they just need to make I think
00:44:43.030 --> 00:44:45.230
they just need to do some janitorial work, clean
00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:47.150
up some stuff and quality of life and whatever.
00:44:47.389 --> 00:44:48.789
But they should I mean, they they should take
00:44:48.789 --> 00:44:51.599
a lab. This is fucking huge. Right? Yeah, like
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.539
definitely, definitely a victory in a lot of
00:44:54.539 --> 00:44:57.159
ways. So I mean, and we didn't mention to this
00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:58.639
is actually important for the meta discussion
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:03.820
and for the update. The game was at like 60 or
00:45:03.820 --> 00:45:07.539
maybe 5070 K every night playing it's up to like,
00:45:07.579 --> 00:45:09.800
I think it just peaked at its new highest peak
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.820
of all time past like 200 ,000 concurrent players.
00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:15.599
So like, this update did what they wanted it
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.920
to do, I think, right? Well, that happens with
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.599
to be fair, that happens with every Toronto,
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.380
new characters come out, it peaks up to like
00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:25.119
around like 170 to 200 give or take. But I will
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.280
say, though, this was a new height. They like
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.380
they have never reached this number before. Yeah,
00:45:29.380 --> 00:45:31.340
I'm sure. What I was going to say is that it
00:45:31.340 --> 00:45:33.199
usually peaks somewhere close to this, and then
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.500
it goes down over the period of time from the
00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:38.260
every time a new character gets raised, it goes
00:45:38.260 --> 00:45:40.019
up a little bit again, and then it goes down,
00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:42.360
down, down. And so what I'm what I'm curious
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:44.699
is, I don't know how many more characters are
00:45:44.699 --> 00:45:46.960
going to add to the game after this. They obviously
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.989
have to rework some people. they have to add
00:45:48.989 --> 00:45:52.510
in more systems over the top of this. Right.
00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:55.929
And I'm like wondering when what the timeline
00:45:55.929 --> 00:45:58.849
looks like for like a full release. Right. Because
00:45:58.849 --> 00:46:01.389
I could see in a year this game being out potentially.
00:46:01.550 --> 00:46:05.050
Right. Within a year. And at that point, the
00:46:05.050 --> 00:46:06.449
reason why I bring it up now is like, I wonder
00:46:06.449 --> 00:46:09.670
what the amount of people who it will go up.
00:46:09.670 --> 00:46:11.289
Right. When the game is just free to download
00:46:11.289 --> 00:46:13.329
and it's not like an invite system, it's not
00:46:13.329 --> 00:46:16.010
early access or whatever. Like, I wonder if what
00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:17.210
are the numbers going to be? Because I've seen
00:46:17.210 --> 00:46:19.530
this before. You joked about this being game
00:46:19.530 --> 00:46:21.710
of the year or whatever It's like like it's such
00:46:21.710 --> 00:46:23.550
a silly thing to think about in my head because
00:46:23.550 --> 00:46:25.130
I'm just like this is such an it's like when
00:46:25.130 --> 00:46:26.969
I was playing League It's just an all -consuming
00:46:26.969 --> 00:46:28.530
ever -present thing where I'm like what's gonna
00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:32.570
be game of the year every year? And you know,
00:46:32.610 --> 00:46:34.170
I'm like I'm out over here being like ready to
00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:36.250
bring a goat to the top of a mountain and fucking
00:46:36.250 --> 00:46:47.739
sacrifice Game of my new religion And I mean,
00:46:47.780 --> 00:46:49.800
we started a fucking podcast about it. You know
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.559
what I mean? And I said this before we started
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.559
recording, but there's not all, you know, Smite
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.719
exists. There's Paragon or whatever the other
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.460
thing is called. The those games are fine. There's
00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:04.179
nothing wrong with them. But this game has it's
00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:07.460
so many things going on and it's still got this
00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:09.800
MOBA juice and it's got more action. It's cleaner
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.460
to me. And the map is amazing. And it's got that
00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:14.340
valve touch of just like all these fun little
00:47:14.340 --> 00:47:17.820
things. This game has a potential to ascend to
00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:20.679
the heights of, to me, League of Legends and
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:25.019
Dota for this genre, right? Where it can go past
00:47:25.019 --> 00:47:29.079
and explode way up. Where we have fucking pop
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.340
stars doing the fucking opening ceremony of the
00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:33.639
Deadlock tournaments or something. Yeah. I mean,
00:47:35.269 --> 00:47:39.409
it has the ability to take in people from Overwatch,
00:47:39.989 --> 00:47:45.119
Rivals, Valorant, Dota, League. It's obviously
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.019
doing a little bit of fight game mechanics. It's
00:47:47.019 --> 00:47:48.820
probably not going to take too many Street Fighter
00:47:48.820 --> 00:47:51.219
players. But I mean, there's something for a
00:47:51.219 --> 00:47:54.840
lot of people. And I think the new day friends,
00:47:54.940 --> 00:47:56.920
I think the thing that they've done with this
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.500
map update and with the new character updates
00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:02.739
is that it's now it's starting to look less like
00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:05.679
a play test. And I think that is reflecting in
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.119
the number of players like a lot of things a
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:09.840
lot of the thing that brings people to a game
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.210
that aren't like super duper the most like you
00:48:13.210 --> 00:48:16.809
know, gamer gamer is just how it looks. And it's
00:48:16.809 --> 00:48:18.710
starting to look like something you'd want to
00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:22.480
spend time in, you know? Yeah, I wonder. I really
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.940
do wonder about the player count and see if it
00:48:24.940 --> 00:48:26.679
really does go up and above, because I do think
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.480
it's been close to 200 ,000 before. And I'm sure
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.000
it's hit a high. But I wonder like what I'm curious
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.619
to see if it'll stay at a high with like new
00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:36.079
people entering or if it'll be something where
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.820
there's kind of like a limit that it hits based
00:48:38.820 --> 00:48:41.619
off just so it's not like out yet. Right. I have
00:48:41.619 --> 00:48:45.630
a couple of numbers here. So It was at the public
00:48:45.630 --> 00:48:50.869
publicity restrictions lifted. It was at 171
00:48:50.869 --> 00:48:53.789
,000. That's pretty high, right? That's in 2024
00:48:53.789 --> 00:48:55.789
when the first game first first came out. And
00:48:55.789 --> 00:48:57.329
that's like, I mean, that's when it had four
00:48:57.329 --> 00:49:00.929
lanes, I think, right? The next high was in 2025.
00:49:01.230 --> 00:49:05.570
It's 62 ,000. And that was when the six new heroes
00:49:05.570 --> 00:49:07.650
came out, which would have been like Mina and
00:49:07.650 --> 00:49:11.750
Drifter. The second one was old, new. By the
00:49:11.750 --> 00:49:14.309
way, these are much lower, right? The next height
00:49:14.309 --> 00:49:16.789
was somewhere around 100. Yeah, Old God's New
00:49:16.789 --> 00:49:20.389
Blood was 125 K and then a little not even a
00:49:20.389 --> 00:49:23.070
bump just kind of like kept people playing for
00:49:23.070 --> 00:49:25.449
the matchmaking update. Yeah. And then it just
00:49:25.449 --> 00:49:28.269
soars above all of that for the this update up
00:49:28.269 --> 00:49:32.750
to currently 236 K. Yeah, that's good. Yeah,
00:49:32.849 --> 00:49:35.389
that's that's like 100 K over the last peak or
00:49:35.389 --> 00:49:38.130
whatever. Which is not bad. Yeah. No. Oh, it
00:49:38.130 --> 00:49:39.829
also explains a lot of people coming in who have
00:49:39.829 --> 00:49:41.429
no idea what the fuck's going on. But that's
00:49:41.429 --> 00:49:42.829
what I was going to say about the meta is that
00:49:42.829 --> 00:49:45.730
like it's also if when you're in low rank or,
00:49:45.730 --> 00:49:47.949
you know, probably a lot of ranks, you're just
00:49:47.949 --> 00:49:49.250
going to have a lot of people who actually don't
00:49:49.250 --> 00:49:51.769
know what the fuck they're doing. Yeah. But I
00:49:51.769 --> 00:49:55.849
mean, I to me, I think that this game just has
00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:59.489
much like Baba's bench, his legs. Oh, yeah. I
00:49:59.489 --> 00:50:03.489
think that this game has grainy long legs. I
00:50:03.489 --> 00:50:07.860
believe in it and I believe in you. As you said
00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:11.179
earlier, dear listener, I believe in you, our
00:50:11.179 --> 00:50:14.880
beautiful children, our horrid swarm of disgusting
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:19.869
Deadlock creatures. I love you. And I love Deadlock.
00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:25.829
Go Deadlock! Cue the credits music. I freeze
00:50:25.829 --> 00:50:28.909
frame throwing a football. In the arms of the
00:50:28.909 --> 00:50:30.949
angels. Deadlock would go on to kill 10 ,000
00:50:30.949 --> 00:50:35.309
people in a murderous rage. This will be played
00:50:35.309 --> 00:50:41.489
on a newsreel. He was a promising young game.
00:50:42.690 --> 00:50:45.949
The he, she, it, they, them. The other thing
00:50:45.949 --> 00:50:47.349
I was going to say real quick before we move
00:50:47.349 --> 00:50:51.909
on to our next section is that I feel like the
00:50:51.909 --> 00:50:54.769
amount of stuff that they added that even with
00:50:54.769 --> 00:50:56.750
all the people combing through it, I bet you
00:50:56.750 --> 00:50:59.550
there's stuff that we haven't even seen yet or
00:50:59.550 --> 00:51:02.340
like that have learned yet about. you know art
00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:04.420
that's like tucked away in places or things that
00:51:04.420 --> 00:51:06.079
people have in mind yet or whatever character
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.219
lines which is like always you know for us i
00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:10.420
think that's an exciting thing because you're
00:51:10.420 --> 00:51:13.719
just like more more me and you are definitely
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.820
going to be looking when there's less updates
00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:18.199
uh we're going to be looking through character
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.460
lore voice lines all this kind of stuff because
00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:23.119
that's for a deadlock comedy podcast i think
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.489
that's fun to do right now there's just so much
00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:28.670
update to talk about right we could talk about
00:51:28.670 --> 00:51:30.670
this update for two more weeks probably right
00:51:30.670 --> 00:51:33.130
and they'll already be new characters because
00:51:33.130 --> 00:51:35.409
this stone over here is perfectly made have you
00:51:35.409 --> 00:51:39.090
noticed this specific this cobblestone baba's
00:51:39.090 --> 00:51:43.670
toes are so the um well is there anything uh
00:51:43.670 --> 00:51:44.869
that you want to cap off with or you want to
00:51:44.869 --> 00:51:47.210
move on to a little bit of lore speaking of lore
00:51:47.210 --> 00:51:50.210
let's move All right. Well, normally I would
00:51:50.210 --> 00:51:53.090
ask you, I would make you spin the wheel. But
00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:54.650
do you want to switch it up this time and ask
00:51:54.650 --> 00:51:57.010
me? I would. And I actually found, if anybody
00:51:57.010 --> 00:52:01.650
cares, statlocker .gg slash random dash heroes.
00:52:02.230 --> 00:52:08.159
So we have a real slot here. All right. All right.
00:52:11.739 --> 00:52:14.639
It actually isn't working for some reason. Just
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.920
pick a character. Never. You always try to go
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:18.460
to technology. You got to believe in the power
00:52:18.460 --> 00:52:21.670
of making sounds with your mouth. People people
00:52:21.670 --> 00:52:25.710
people people people. Oh, dude, we got ratking
00:52:26.130 --> 00:52:28.690
Rat we got ratking baby. All right, so I have
00:52:28.690 --> 00:52:30.289
to guess his lore. Is that what's going on? Hit
00:52:30.289 --> 00:52:32.469
me with some wrecking lore. All right. Well,
00:52:32.469 --> 00:52:35.869
I have played enough to know that he is the ruler
00:52:35.869 --> 00:52:40.909
of Ratania and hates humans I have ascertained
00:52:40.909 --> 00:52:44.050
that from his voice lines and He has lots of
00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:47.550
rat friends. He clearly wants to rule the upper
00:52:47.550 --> 00:52:51.219
world We talked about earlier, I wonder what
00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:55.900
his story is of how he became this way. So in
00:52:55.900 --> 00:52:58.539
my mind, I feel like we got a Teenage Mutant
00:52:58.539 --> 00:53:01.519
Ninja Turtle situation going on. Some kind of
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.679
mystic ooze dribbled onto a rat and he just became
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:06.260
fucking huge and learned how to use a machine
00:53:06.260 --> 00:53:08.920
gun. Which is obviously what would happen to
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.619
a rat who got radioactive mystic ooze dribbled
00:53:11.619 --> 00:53:17.679
on him. I will say... Think that I'm curious
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.480
about the like nature of like I want to know
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:26.099
is Ritanya the sewer area underneath that he
00:53:26.099 --> 00:53:28.559
rules and was he elected or is it like a divine
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.619
providence of because he became an anthropomorphized
00:53:31.619 --> 00:53:35.659
rat like in my mind like he has viewed that as
00:53:35.659 --> 00:53:39.880
like a like a divine right of Whatever heinous
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:41.860
gods exist in this world and now he's like the
00:53:41.860 --> 00:53:45.820
ordained of Ratania, because otherwise I'd be
00:53:45.820 --> 00:53:48.380
like, I mean, he's the biggest rat. So obviously,
00:53:48.860 --> 00:53:51.239
are there other big rats? Did he win an election
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.079
of some kind? Did they vote him to be king? I
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.059
think that he's a pretty straightforward character
00:53:57.059 --> 00:54:00.780
in every other regard. I do want to say that
00:54:00.780 --> 00:54:06.429
I love his flag, and I think that the rats...
00:54:07.619 --> 00:54:10.199
Really am I so hold on I want to say one more
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.039
thing before I was gonna wrap it up with just
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.760
kind of like it's Relatively speaking a giant
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.500
rat and that's it. I want to join in What is
00:54:18.500 --> 00:54:20.880
yeah, what is his origin? He's a giant rat actually
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.820
I wanted to point out It must be very lonely
00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:27.099
to be the rat king because if there are not other
00:54:27.099 --> 00:54:28.900
giant rats when you tell me this lure right now
00:54:28.900 --> 00:54:31.079
And it's just not Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
00:54:31.139 --> 00:54:34.159
but a giant rat. I'm gonna be a little bit sad
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:38.199
for him because he must not have any lovers.
00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:40.840
You know what I mean? No one's his size. That's
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:42.900
a rat. Unless he wants to go outside of a species.
00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:47.340
Like, does he have like a concubine rat that's
00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:49.659
smaller than him? What if he has dozens of lovers?
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.559
Dozens of little lovers. That's like a whole
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.860
other weird thing, right? So like, you know,
00:54:54.940 --> 00:54:56.980
maybe he's quite lonely. He doesn't have a queen,
00:54:57.380 --> 00:54:59.860
right? So then the question is, who would his
00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:02.210
queen be? And I, you know. I would say I mean,
00:55:02.309 --> 00:55:05.050
you're opening up the you're giving valve ideas
00:55:05.050 --> 00:55:07.110
for just further characters, right? Rat Queen.
00:55:07.469 --> 00:55:10.309
Rat Queen. By the way, I just want to say it's
00:55:10.309 --> 00:55:12.449
to follow the real trope. Rat Queen would have
00:55:12.449 --> 00:55:15.849
to look like Jessica Rabbit or something completely
00:55:15.849 --> 00:55:18.090
left field where it's like not even close to
00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:20.630
being a rat. I would love it if she was just
00:55:20.630 --> 00:55:24.130
like, way more musco than him like he let himself
00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:26.309
go. She's been in the gym. You know what I mean?
00:55:27.929 --> 00:55:29.769
like a fucking horrid like those things from
00:55:29.769 --> 00:55:32.329
like 40 and not 40 K, but like the OG Warhammer,
00:55:32.409 --> 00:55:35.710
like the giant Skiven rat. Yes. Or here's an
00:55:35.710 --> 00:55:40.750
idea. She is not even one rat. She is like, and
00:55:40.750 --> 00:55:44.750
like sort of hundreds of little rats making up
00:55:44.750 --> 00:55:47.530
a human form. Oh, my God. No, that's real. That's
00:55:47.530 --> 00:55:51.000
I want that. By the way, what a great idea for
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.119
a character, too, by the way. What movie is that?
00:55:53.179 --> 00:55:55.059
I'm taking that from like Willard or some old
00:55:55.059 --> 00:55:59.639
movie. Yeah, dude, we got to do that. There's
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.119
a movie called Willard. It's a woman made of
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.400
rats. It's not a woman made of rats, but somebody
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.960
find its stat. This summer, it's Willard. Little
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.400
Tony finally found his girlfriend, but she's
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:16.380
made of rats. This is by the way, this is a good
00:56:16.380 --> 00:56:21.139
pitch for Willard to I think but Willard to I
00:56:21.650 --> 00:56:25.489
have no other idea for the name of this movie
00:56:25.590 --> 00:56:30.980
Willard to she's rats There you go All right
00:56:31.329 --> 00:56:35.139
rat King's actual backstory. You hit me the cryptid
00:56:35.139 --> 00:56:38.699
ruler of the New York Warrens The rat King towers
00:56:38.699 --> 00:56:41.500
over his subjects in size strength and ambition
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.800
No longer content with hiding underground, the
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.360
King has revealed his bold vision for a future
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.619
where he and his subjects can walk the surface
00:56:49.619 --> 00:56:52.840
without fear of pest control vans that roam the
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.059
streets of New York, or as the rats call them,
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:59.039
human death squads. Step one, take control of
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.199
Long Island. Step two, declare Long Island as
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.699
the new sovereign nation of Ratania. And step
00:57:04.699 --> 00:57:08.239
three, execute every human that refuses to leave
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.880
this new rat utopia. But airtight as this plan
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.820
is the king of rats didn't want to take chances
00:57:14.820 --> 00:57:19.500
and so he's decided to take to summon the patron
00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:24.849
to help hedge his bets and then cue the Cue the
00:57:24.849 --> 00:57:37.690
ending song from the matrix So that None of that
00:57:37.690 --> 00:57:39.809
surprises me. I do think that I would be happy
00:57:39.809 --> 00:57:41.550
for rats to take over Long Island and take it
00:57:41.550 --> 00:57:44.429
away from us. I think that's fine. Sure. The
00:57:44.429 --> 00:57:46.530
other part of it, though, is that it didn't actually
00:57:46.530 --> 00:57:48.690
get on the origin of him at all as a character.
00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:51.010
No, not at all. Yeah. They just call him a cryptid
00:57:51.010 --> 00:57:52.750
and move on. And they say he was bigger than
00:57:52.750 --> 00:57:55.269
the other rats. So like they've completely left
00:57:55.269 --> 00:57:59.469
that out of it. Yeah, it's probably fine. I mean,
00:57:59.570 --> 00:58:03.550
like if I wonder if they explain any of them
00:58:03.550 --> 00:58:07.070
that much. Right. Tell me why rat big. Why rat?
00:58:07.070 --> 00:58:10.530
Why rat big? Why rat big and talk? And then Valve
00:58:10.530 --> 00:58:13.670
say, rat grow big. Valve comes to my house and
00:58:13.670 --> 00:58:16.409
puts a black bag over my head and puts me into
00:58:16.409 --> 00:58:20.570
a van and drives me to fucking Britannia and
00:58:20.570 --> 00:58:23.010
feeds me to the rats. That's what Valve does.
00:58:23.610 --> 00:58:26.969
That's my favorite voiceline. My favorite voiceline
00:58:26.969 --> 00:58:30.130
from him so far is like, we're not scurrying
00:58:30.130 --> 00:58:33.349
like rats. We're biting faces off like rats.
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.280
You've pointed out to me yesterday that his rat
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.179
attack that he is to or whatever just has a different
00:58:40.179 --> 00:58:41.739
line and there's like a billion different names
00:58:41.739 --> 00:58:44.659
for all the rats and like I just I Spammed it
00:58:44.659 --> 00:58:46.440
in the hideout forever and just listened all
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.659
of them and it's just so good. He's like get
00:58:48.659 --> 00:58:52.179
in there Ingrid It's like yeah now you got to
00:58:52.179 --> 00:58:56.059
deal with second call or whatever Yeah, that's
00:58:56.059 --> 00:59:00.889
so good. Yeah, great character. Holy moly The
00:59:00.889 --> 00:59:03.210
I also can't wait to see all the amazing mods
00:59:03.210 --> 00:59:04.769
that people make for that character with his
00:59:04.769 --> 00:59:06.789
flag and song that plays like that's going to
00:59:06.789 --> 00:59:08.869
be a whole separate thing that happens that I'm
00:59:08.869 --> 00:59:11.269
sure is already well underway. Those flags are
00:59:11.269 --> 00:59:14.469
going to be flying at Comic Con for sure. Oh,
00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:16.289
yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm definitely going to get I'm
00:59:16.289 --> 00:59:19.070
going to put a Ratania flag in behind me somewhere.
00:59:20.289 --> 00:59:24.679
Represent the cause. All right. Well, that that
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:26.880
that wraps it up for a little bit of dead law.
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.039
And then you said you had a new section you wanted.
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:34.239
So I have I have a new segment for the pod. It's
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:39.269
called Build Browser Lovers, BBL for short, a
00:59:39.269 --> 00:59:41.869
segment where we focus on a particularly interesting
00:59:41.869 --> 00:59:46.250
build or a thoughtful build could be troll, could
00:59:46.250 --> 00:59:49.630
be just something I found 10 minutes ago, which
00:59:49.630 --> 00:59:52.289
is why we thought of this. I love a good BBL.
00:59:52.570 --> 00:59:58.190
So hit me. So the one I have for us today is
00:59:58.190 --> 01:00:07.739
a Baba build Baba BB BL and It's called Babas
01:00:07.739 --> 01:00:12.980
hit me with Baba's BPL Don't please it's called
01:00:12.980 --> 01:00:16.340
grandma steals your cookies and ganks you ASMR
01:00:16.659 --> 01:00:20.909
That's almost good as a investigating sexual
01:00:20.909 --> 01:00:26.510
misconduct So what I loved about this build by
01:00:26.510 --> 01:00:32.630
the way don't love the actual build It's too
01:00:32.630 --> 01:00:34.889
disjointed. There's a lot, too many options.
01:00:35.010 --> 01:00:36.230
There's like a million options in this build.
01:00:36.650 --> 01:00:38.809
However - You want a build to tell you, you're
01:00:38.809 --> 01:00:40.110
a fan of a build that tells you exactly what
01:00:40.110 --> 01:00:43.389
to build. I want a build to have, like, to be
01:00:43.389 --> 01:00:47.360
honest with you, I know that Decay and Knockdown
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:48.940
and Disarming Hex and Silence Wave are gonna
01:00:48.940 --> 01:00:50.519
do what they're gonna do. I don't need you to
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:52.559
put it on the thing. Like, give me a good left,
01:00:52.699 --> 01:00:56.860
give me a good left to right, and... It's like,
01:00:57.340 --> 01:00:58.960
even if it's a, even if it's a flow chart and
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:00.880
says like, oh, you can do, this is what you can
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.920
do for this. You'll understand what I mean when
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.460
I read you the names of these, these little folders.
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.380
You're saying stop putting a healing right off
01:01:08.380 --> 01:01:10.940
to the right of every single early. I don't even
01:01:10.940 --> 01:01:12.500
mind that. But it's like, you'll, you'll see
01:01:12.500 --> 01:01:14.360
what I mean. Like this just gives you, you can
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.539
play her like six different ways and nobody gets
01:01:16.539 --> 01:01:21.179
this. So, okay. First one's called feeding pigeons
01:01:21.179 --> 01:01:24.139
with the flesh of her enemies. Okay. And that's
01:01:24.139 --> 01:01:26.280
going to be your normal stuff, your monster rounds,
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.420
your melee lifesteal, extra regen, extra spirit,
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:33.900
spirit strike, extra charge, mystic regen. You
01:01:33.900 --> 01:01:35.480
know, you probably get like a four point eight
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:40.769
K investment on the purple there. Next section,
01:01:41.690 --> 01:01:45.949
knitting ugly Christmas sweaters. You tell me
01:01:45.949 --> 01:01:48.849
what that means. All right. Tanky, tanky greens.
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:56.880
Mystic expansion, heel bane. Melee charge improved
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.019
spirit and healing booster. Yeah, a little. I
01:02:00.019 --> 01:02:02.420
mean a little bit of green, but random combination
01:02:02.420 --> 01:02:05.380
of stuff. Little random. I mean, I guess the
01:02:05.380 --> 01:02:07.699
charge for her thing. Yeah, sure. Melee charge
01:02:07.699 --> 01:02:09.599
helps with the melee life steal. You said the
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.599
life strike is in there or melee life steal.
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.679
Melee charge is in there, but then melee life
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.519
steal is in with feeding pigeons with the flesh
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.659
of her eyes. Right. Interesting. Next area is
01:02:20.659 --> 01:02:28.110
called baking with fentanyl. This is Compress
01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:32.650
cool down quick silver reload spirit lifesteal
01:02:32.650 --> 01:02:38.070
rapid recharge Okay, you tell me all right. Yeah,
01:02:38.170 --> 01:02:40.269
you're sure these are all meant to be built differently
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:43.300
I Are you supposed to just go left to right here?
01:02:43.300 --> 01:02:44.980
I mean, I don't know if I would go left to right
01:02:44.980 --> 01:02:47.019
there I mean, I can't tell I'm trying to count
01:02:47.019 --> 01:02:49.059
it up in my head But like the fact that the melee
01:02:49.059 --> 01:02:50.820
items are spread out at all where all three makes
01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:53.269
me think that it's supposed to be pick and choose
01:02:53.269 --> 01:02:54.869
from all three. It could be left to right, could
01:02:54.869 --> 01:02:58.409
be left to right. Hi, I'm Yarn. I don't know
01:02:58.409 --> 01:03:02.389
how to read. I don't and I won't learn. Next
01:03:02.389 --> 01:03:06.869
part. Grandma needs her meds. Right. Radiant
01:03:06.869 --> 01:03:10.590
regen, healing tempo, leech. This one makes sense.
01:03:10.690 --> 01:03:13.369
But also, this is what I want the build to tell
01:03:13.369 --> 01:03:15.690
me so that I don't have to think about it in
01:03:15.690 --> 01:03:18.539
the middle of the game. Do I do all of these?
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.199
No, right. Do you just get one? Yeah, I mean,
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.179
I think you'd yeah, this is definitely doesn't
01:03:24.179 --> 01:03:25.880
sound like a build for people who are just getting
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:27.360
started. That's for sure. No, it is not. No,
01:03:27.420 --> 01:03:30.519
it is not. Anyways, by the way, I love this build.
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:33.539
And I did I did okay with her just picking out
01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:35.559
of it randomly. I did not go left to right at
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:37.400
all. I went left to right for feeding pigeons
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.559
part right? Who made the build? Do you have the
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:45.880
name credit them? I the person who built this
01:03:46.619 --> 01:03:49.480
prefers to remain anonymous. Is his anonymous
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:51.760
on it? No, I have no idea. I just can't find
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.280
it. All right, well, shout out to whoever made
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:55.519
that build, because I want to make sure they
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:59.889
get their credit. If someone listening to this
01:03:59.889 --> 01:04:03.510
finds it, feel free to comment. 686. You can
01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:05.949
see where it's by, though, if you're in the game.
01:04:06.110 --> 01:04:09.510
Oh yeah, so it's made by somebody named Domino122361.
01:04:11.449 --> 01:04:14.530
Domino122361, I love you, and I love your amazing
01:04:14.530 --> 01:04:19.489
ideas and creativity. You're much loved by dads.
01:04:20.469 --> 01:04:24.329
Even if yarn is illiterate. I hate it. The next
01:04:24.329 --> 01:04:27.679
part is the part she punches you. That's good.
01:04:28.900 --> 01:04:31.139
Are you doing the tier two and three melee stuff
01:04:31.139 --> 01:04:33.099
now? Yep, exactly what you'd expect. Crushing
01:04:33.099 --> 01:04:35.460
fist, boundless spirit. I go up to four now.
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:39.599
Next one. Fastest old lady in the West. Duration
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:43.420
extender. Yep, greater expansion, superior cooldown.
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:49.230
Hold on, can I freeze frame for a second? Domino122364,
01:04:49.230 --> 01:04:51.130
I would love it if you came up with a better
01:04:51.130 --> 01:04:53.130
name for that section. I think it's not so good.
01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:56.250
I think you can be more creative. The fastest
01:04:56.250 --> 01:04:57.630
old lady in the West. Yeah, fastest old lady
01:04:57.630 --> 01:04:58.929
in the West. What does that have to do with any?
01:04:59.449 --> 01:05:01.730
Go back to the making jokes about New York stuff.
01:05:02.210 --> 01:05:04.389
You know what I mean? You got lazy in the end
01:05:04.389 --> 01:05:06.170
there. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah,
01:05:06.190 --> 01:05:12.429
come on. OK. So next, it gets better. Her entire
01:05:12.429 --> 01:05:16.630
existence is fueled by spite. So it sounds like
01:05:16.630 --> 01:05:19.840
a lady I can get into. Yeah, Mercurial Magnum,
01:05:19.940 --> 01:05:21.960
Superior Duration, Transcendent Cooldown, Spirit
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.139
Burn. Not bad. That's your power spike right
01:05:24.139 --> 01:05:27.219
there. Uh -huh. If you're on Spirit. Stop those
01:05:27.219 --> 01:05:29.760
pesky rapscallions, right? This is the disarming
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:33.420
hex knocked down to pay Silence Wave. These are
01:05:33.420 --> 01:05:35.320
optional, these next two. I think actually the
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:37.840
rest of the build is optional. Grandma just tanks
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:39.320
it. I'm not even going to raid them. You can
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.820
imagine what's in there. Greens. Send Grandma
01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:45.199
into the stratosphere. I bet you can guess what
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:49.619
that is. I can't. Majestic leap magic. Oh, okay.
01:05:49.659 --> 01:05:51.420
Yeah, I should I was not thinking literally I'm
01:05:51.420 --> 01:05:53.239
trying to think of like escalating but I guess
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:54.519
it's kind of like I don't really know where you're
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.239
reading off of it. Yep Yep, and then the last
01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:00.139
one is my favorite which is half off sale on
01:06:00.139 --> 01:06:02.460
avocados, which is just a bunch of random greens.
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:06.760
Yeah Yep. So is this a good segment? We should
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.860
bring back. We're not even sure yet, right? Yeah
01:06:08.860 --> 01:06:10.579
Well, I have I don't have a full page up but
01:06:10.579 --> 01:06:13.320
I did I was working on a build that I want to
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.420
mention that I know other people have done before
01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:17.460
but I was really enjoying it before the update
01:06:17.460 --> 01:06:19.559
and I I've poked around with a little bit with
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:23.400
it after the update and I'm probably gonna I
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:26.400
don't know if it has legs the way that Baba has
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:30.320
granny long legs but the I'm feeling horny Celeste
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:35.300
build that's all melee that I was building it
01:06:35.300 --> 01:06:39.219
is a exactly as you might imagine a classic like
01:06:39.219 --> 01:06:43.769
Abram style melee build but it is something about
01:06:43.769 --> 01:06:46.800
meleeing with Celeste where the her alt is flying
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:48.579
around and you have your shield on you and the
01:06:48.579 --> 01:06:50.980
animation for her ult. It's one of those builds
01:06:50.980 --> 01:06:55.380
that I think I could see a melee Baba build taking
01:06:55.380 --> 01:06:57.440
off because of the same reason where like meleeing
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:58.960
with her is just fun. It's one of those things
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.559
where you're like, it doesn't even make sense.
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:02.139
It makes sense in like a little bit where it's
01:07:02.139 --> 01:07:03.519
like, oh, you have a shield and you're in the
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.059
middle of the fight and yada yada. But when you
01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:07.380
really think about it, you're like, nothing scales
01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:09.360
off of melee in a real actual way that you would
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.019
be like, oh, yeah, it's going to obviously be
01:07:11.019 --> 01:07:15.199
a melee character. Baba does have a good at like
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.110
the melee scaling on the two. Right. And so,
01:07:18.190 --> 01:07:20.750
like, I do wonder if we're going to see some
01:07:20.750 --> 01:07:23.530
some like I'm trying to think of what a melee
01:07:23.530 --> 01:07:25.969
Baba build would look like or be called as a
01:07:25.969 --> 01:07:28.250
job. Well, she's got an interesting thing, because
01:07:28.250 --> 01:07:30.130
like so there's already a lot of melee builds
01:07:30.130 --> 01:07:32.989
with her. She doesn't say it has to be something.
01:07:33.610 --> 01:07:35.690
This is the thing, too. It's like so her heavy
01:07:35.690 --> 01:07:39.409
melee damage scales off of spirit. So it's actually
01:07:39.409 --> 01:07:41.329
pretty good. And then her heavy melee does a
01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:46.760
50 percent slow, which is fucking crazy. I mean,
01:07:46.980 --> 01:07:48.900
this character also may get fucking nerfs by
01:07:48.900 --> 01:07:50.739
the time we this episode comes out. The melee
01:07:50.739 --> 01:07:52.239
stuff might get nerfed the most because it's
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.639
just that too is really nuts. I was crushing
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:58.579
people earlier. However, I will say the the parry
01:07:58.579 --> 01:08:03.360
does stop the damage, I think. Yeah, it doesn't
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:05.579
it doesn't stun Baba, though, which makes it
01:08:05.579 --> 01:08:08.760
like totally OK to just throw that heavy melee
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.380
out the whole time you have granny long legs
01:08:10.380 --> 01:08:12.719
up. By the way, did you see that they changed
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:16.890
the They changed the parry again a little bit.
01:08:17.310 --> 01:08:21.409
They made it so that the like there's an issue
01:08:21.409 --> 01:08:24.210
with like registering parries or something like
01:08:24.210 --> 01:08:26.670
that. I have I can't I it's not super relevant
01:08:26.670 --> 01:08:28.670
because it was like a very minor change. But
01:08:28.670 --> 01:08:31.449
it just was another way that they cleaned up
01:08:31.449 --> 01:08:33.850
like some of the parry issues that people were
01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:35.109
having, which I think is nice because the more
01:08:35.109 --> 01:08:36.390
they clean that stuff up, I feel like the nicer
01:08:36.390 --> 01:08:39.890
it feels. Yeah, that's great. On that more of
01:08:39.890 --> 01:08:42.399
that, please. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Well, do you
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:44.600
want to is that enough for your is your BBL big
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.279
enough? Do you feel like you've got in there
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:53.060
too big? Say goodbye to Baba's BBL. Bye And then
01:08:53.060 --> 01:08:55.039
you want to we can get into our last little bit
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.020
here. What are you? What are you playing? What
01:08:57.020 --> 01:08:58.319
are you doing? What are you watching? How you
01:08:58.319 --> 01:08:59.819
feeling? Are you okay? What am I playing? What
01:08:59.819 --> 01:09:04.819
am I doing? We just finished watching Green Lantern
01:09:04.819 --> 01:09:09.859
the our lanterns and Yeah, man, good stuff there.
01:09:10.220 --> 01:09:14.300
Not bad. Do they kiss? That's my question. Not
01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:16.960
just two, three Green Lanterns. Yeah, and a three
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:18.439
-way kiss. They all kiss at once. And a big three
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.180
-way kiss, yeah. Sick, dude. I have to watch
01:09:20.180 --> 01:09:22.579
this. I watch one episode. I have to catch up,
01:09:22.579 --> 01:09:26.859
obviously. Yeah, but it's just good stuff. Pretty
01:09:26.859 --> 01:09:32.460
great show. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's it. That's
01:09:32.460 --> 01:09:34.279
pretty much it. I've watched a TV show and played
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.159
Deadlock. That's fair enough. I've hydrated lots.
01:09:39.420 --> 01:09:43.460
I drank lots of water. No, I watched two things.
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.539
One is that I watched the new season of the show
01:09:45.539 --> 01:09:48.060
called Slow Horses. Have you ever heard of this?
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:52.680
I have not. It's on Apple TV. Crapple. No, I
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.560
love Apple TV. Apple TV, the home for all things
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:59.699
Apple and TV. Please don't remove our podcast
01:09:59.699 --> 01:10:05.649
from Apple Podcasts. It's a really good show.
01:10:05.649 --> 01:10:07.970
It's got a Gary Oldman in it and it's a bunch
01:10:07.970 --> 01:10:10.890
of like shitty spies that uh, it's not comedy
01:10:10.890 --> 01:10:12.430
necessarily Although there are like late -hearted
01:10:12.430 --> 01:10:14.430
moments, but it's like an actual spy thriller
01:10:14.430 --> 01:10:17.069
but the whole like setup is that it's like the
01:10:17.069 --> 01:10:19.289
shitty spies that have to deal with like all
01:10:19.289 --> 01:10:20.789
the people have been kicked out for like gambling
01:10:20.789 --> 01:10:23.729
and drugs and that shit like kind of shit and
01:10:23.729 --> 01:10:26.210
Gary Oldman just plays like a fucking awesome
01:10:26.210 --> 01:10:27.649
character his name is his character's name is
01:10:27.649 --> 01:10:31.130
Jackson Lamb and he's just he's this like gross
01:10:31.130 --> 01:10:33.930
disgusting washed -up spy who's like fat and
01:10:33.930 --> 01:10:36.079
like farts and like does all this like gross
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:38.359
shit like drinking all the time eating a bunch
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.819
of food getting shit like messy everywhere it's
01:10:40.819 --> 01:10:44.199
really good you should check it out dude that
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.420
looks sweet also gary oldman is like that you
01:10:46.420 --> 01:10:49.840
know he's great legend absolute legend yep um
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:53.079
and then uh i've been watching uh i love you
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:54.699
um i don't know if you know this or not but i
01:10:54.699 --> 01:10:56.939
love eurovision if you're familiar with eurovision
01:10:56.939 --> 01:11:01.659
at all do you do you know what what is whoosh
01:11:03.229 --> 01:11:06.149
No, not really a musical competition that happens
01:11:06.149 --> 01:11:08.930
once a year where all the like a bunch of European
01:11:08.930 --> 01:11:12.430
countries submit a somewhat mediocre musical
01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:15.989
act and Performance from their own like selection
01:11:15.989 --> 01:11:18.050
shows in their own countries and then they all
01:11:18.050 --> 01:11:20.390
compete in Europe and the world votes on which
01:11:20.390 --> 01:11:24.029
ones are the best And it's like this like a ridiculous
01:11:24.029 --> 01:11:27.949
show That happens, but they're doing it for Asia
01:11:27.949 --> 01:11:30.779
right now I think it's the first time they've
01:11:30.779 --> 01:11:32.720
ever done it, but it's only Asia, and it's only
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.840
in certain countries. And there's like Bhutan,
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:41.060
Korea, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam are all participating,
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.800
and the Philippines. It is much lower budget
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.619
than the other ones. And you'd think that Korea
01:11:47.619 --> 01:11:50.239
would go like apeshit on this, but they like
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.840
way phoned it in, and it literally looked like
01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:56.710
their contest was happening like in a mall. Where
01:11:56.710 --> 01:11:58.989
they just feel like, like international television,
01:11:59.130 --> 01:12:01.850
but they're like coming out of like a stadium,
01:12:02.010 --> 01:12:03.909
or not a stadium, like a little stage that's
01:12:03.909 --> 01:12:05.689
in like the basement of a mall was the vibe,
01:12:06.010 --> 01:12:07.890
with like three people like clapping, being like,
01:12:07.930 --> 01:12:11.350
oh, yes, very good, very good. But you know who
01:12:11.350 --> 01:12:13.569
took it away? It's the Philippines, Philippines.
01:12:13.569 --> 01:12:16.050
Give me like a bit of a 90s vibe of like the
01:12:16.050 --> 01:12:18.750
weird competition in the mall with like the J
01:12:18.750 --> 01:12:21.989
-pop type star or like 90s American, you know,
01:12:22.149 --> 01:12:24.960
pop princess. If you want to if you want to have
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:26.640
an experience of like just watching something
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:30.140
completely like you're just like I have no cultural
01:12:30.140 --> 01:12:32.220
Touchstone for this like the Eurovision Asia
01:12:32.220 --> 01:12:34.000
stuff you watch and you're like, wow, this is
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:35.899
crazy Some of it's like feels like state -sponsored
01:12:35.899 --> 01:12:38.140
television and some of it feels like an actual
01:12:38.140 --> 01:12:40.840
like musical like competition, right? Like so
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.439
the Philippines like win ham and their music's
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.380
all really good. That one is amazing You should
01:12:45.380 --> 01:12:47.960
actually like just objectively watch that but
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.680
The other ones, some of them 100 % feel like
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.619
stated. There's like, we have the Minister of
01:12:52.619 --> 01:12:55.159
Finance here. And he's sitting on a golden pillow,
01:12:55.859 --> 01:12:59.039
just grimacing. And then everyone's quietly clapping.
01:12:59.140 --> 01:13:00.779
And there's drones flying around everywhere.
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:06.760
You're like, a casual musical event here. It's
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:09.340
on YouTube, so you can go watch it. And if you're
01:13:09.340 --> 01:13:13.100
a member of that song competition, and you want
01:13:13.100 --> 01:13:15.739
to guest on our illustrious podcast, you just
01:13:15.739 --> 01:13:18.979
send us an email. Will say everyone there are
01:13:18.979 --> 01:13:21.039
in each country. There was for the most part
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:22.859
There was a person who did really well and so
01:13:22.859 --> 01:13:25.840
if any I would love To have a random person.
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:27.859
He was just some guy from Bhutan being like what
01:13:27.859 --> 01:13:31.380
he's dead. I don't I Would love it if you were
01:13:31.380 --> 01:13:34.369
like my tube and throat singing song. I would
01:13:34.369 --> 01:13:36.010
imagine that they're probably a red man. That's
01:13:36.010 --> 01:13:40.199
what I was thinking Well, that's where that vibe
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.899
comes from but yeah Rem I feel like Rem would
01:13:43.899 --> 01:13:45.319
be I don't know what kind of music room would
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:50.109
be in Probably in the band Rem, right? Day, yeah,
01:13:50.270 --> 01:13:56.430
there you go Losing my religion. Yeah, that's
01:13:56.430 --> 01:14:00.510
the But that's a yeah, that's all I did and then
01:14:00.510 --> 01:14:04.090
you know, obviously deadlock We already talked
01:14:04.090 --> 01:14:07.350
about that But yeah, let's get into some and
01:14:07.350 --> 01:14:09.170
and finally let's get into some deadlock talk.
01:14:09.170 --> 01:14:11.430
I think that's Let's circle back around the podcast
01:14:11.430 --> 01:14:16.529
just plays again The yeah, I mean I I'd say before
01:14:16.529 --> 01:14:20.539
we go like the I'm very hopeful. I'm excited
01:14:20.539 --> 01:14:22.399
to see what character is going to get picked
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:23.819
next. My guess is they're going to pick Deadman
01:14:23.819 --> 01:14:28.279
Danny or Violet just for the meme. You know,
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.720
I'm hoping for Solomon because again, I just
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.340
I'm interested in like how chess is going to
01:14:33.340 --> 01:14:35.340
play into his kit. I think would be interesting.
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:40.260
Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Well, as always, dads
01:14:40.260 --> 01:14:43.060
never say goodbye. Not really. So we'll be right
01:14:43.060 --> 01:14:44.439
back. We're just going to go get some stuff.
01:14:44.579 --> 01:14:48.619
I got to I got to get two French fries. I got
01:14:48.619 --> 01:14:51.199
a carton of cigarettes and a gallon of milk waiting
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:52.739
for me. I gotta go meet with your teacher, she's
01:14:52.739 --> 01:14:56.939
gotta tell me something in private. We'll be
01:14:56.939 --> 01:14:57.659
back, we'll be back.