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Today on cyber work hacks InfoSec Bootcamp instructor Wilfredo Lanz talks about the difference between the Azure AZ 1 0 4 certification for cloud administrators and the a Z 500 certification for cloud security professionals.
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And why All cybersecurity professionals are going to need to be cloud masters in the security landscape of the future.
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if you already have uh, some skills in legacy it on premises technology, when you enhance that to the cloud, you expand your possibilities, your opportunity, Cloud isn't the future.
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It's the present and the future.
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Now let's get the show started Welcome to a new episode of Cyber Work Hacks.
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The purpose of this spinoff of our popular Cyber Work podcast is to take a single fundamental question and give you a quick, clear, actionable solution or a new insight into how to utilize InfoSec products and training to achieve your work.
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And career goals.
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Um, my guest today Wilfredo Lanz is an InfoSec instructor and among as many areas of expertise, he is the instructor for our Microsoft Azure Dual Cert Bootcamp.
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Uh, at the end of this bootcamp, participants will take and likely pass the Azure Administrator associate and the Azure Security Engineer associate certifications.
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But what are they?
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So what's the difference and what.
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Uh, which one or both will you need depending on your cybersecurity career?
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Wilfredo's gonna break it down for you.
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So welcome Wilfredo.
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Thank you, Chris.
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Uh, so Wilfredo, let's start with, uh, Microsoft Azure broadly.
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Azure obviously is a brand specific cloud computing platform.
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Can you talk about Azure as a platform and its differences with say, uh, AWS Amazon Web Service or other branded cloud computing platforms?
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Absolutely.
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Um, as or as, um.
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Uh, cloud provider is, uh, is a second global cloud provider.
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Amazon still has the first place Amazon started back in 2006, And they have been, adding services and, uh, to the cloud offering.
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Microsoft started back in.
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2010, but over the years they have been.
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Strong on their cloud, uh, uh, resources offering To either public from uh, businesses, government, Microsoft Advantage, I will say is, um, there are many are many.
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that have deployed Windows operating systems, servers, and uh, private Right.
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right?
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Network.
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When those business businesses try to work the cloud, they don't shut down everything they have and start, you know, a hundred percent on the cloud for those businesses.
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It's a Transition process Yeah.
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In which they, they start moving workloads and resources to the cloud and then they need to keep a hybrid environment.
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Right.
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In those cases, I will say, is when you see most of the customers, uh, uh, uh, preferring Micro, solution because they already are familiar with the Windows operating systems, with windows.
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Yep.
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and They transition To the cloud in a easier way that is they start blank, uh,
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brand
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with
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Amazon, right.
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However, Amazon, uh, does provide, uh, uh, a huge platform for developers, uh, businesses.
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They want to start from scratch.
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All the way to
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To the cloud.
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So they compete uh, a very strong for every customer that they can, you know,
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day.
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But
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uh, Microsoft
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also
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because
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of that, uh, advantage they have.
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of being, uh, provider of software and hardware for many years to many businesses, and
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they
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provide that.
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easier transition.
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Yeah.
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Now, um, I guess in your experience, are there specific industries or job sectors that especially favor Azure as their cloud platform of choice?
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I assume it, it comes down to whether certain industries or companies are, are Microsoft focused, but if, is it something like, you know, if you're going into finance or healthcare or government, is, is Azure more commonly used?
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In certain industries than in others.
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Yeah, well, every business will evaluate their
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Okay.
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and, you know, decide on which offer is better for them.
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However, especially in those three options that you mentioned,
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Government.
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Microsoft builds.
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Uh, separate data centers.
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Uh, they have a, a, a within their cloud solutions, there is an area they
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Government
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government
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cloud.
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Ah,
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that
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is all the
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the same Azure
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tools and resources
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that we use and manage.
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but dedicated
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to
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the government.
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So
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in the.
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of the government, they are very strong because they build those specific data centers for the government.
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In the case of healthcare and finance, these are heavily regulated, um, businesses, right in
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Yes.
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and finance.
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Uh,
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so
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in that area
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also, Microsoft
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Mike, very
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um.
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Oriented to
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to Lions.
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issues.
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Mm.
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They
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have a large
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um, um.
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Uh,
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amount of resource
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that they make available to ensure
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that organization.
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in the areas of healthcare and finance are compliance with laws, regulations, frameworks,
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Best practices,
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So
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is an area where Microsoft actually
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is
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gaining more and more
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If you
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work
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in
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finance,
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or
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healthcare,
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uh, there is a
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uh, there is a, a great possibility that you
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get some type of.
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relationship.
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the Microsoft Cloud as your company moves to the cloud.
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Okay.
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Uh, now I wanna just, uh, delineate this briefly.
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I think probably our listeners know some of this, but, uh, as I say, we're talking about a couple of related, but, uh, structurally different Azure certifications.
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Can you talk about the parameters of the Microsoft Azure Administrator Associate Certification versus the Azure Security Engineer associate certification?
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What, what are you learning in, in the 1 0 4, as you said, versus the 500?
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Yeah, the 1 0 4 is the classic administrator job.
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Okay.
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If
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you, uh,
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go
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for that,
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then it is expected.
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that you
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be deploying as a resources,
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like
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virtual machines, containers storage
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account,
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uh,
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what we call computer
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resources, storage,
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network,
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and
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some slides.
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security implementations, but.
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But
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This is
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this all safety data
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operations, managing resources,
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Okay.
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Performance
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allocation of resources and services on the cloud.
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Uh,
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on the other hand,
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the AC 500, the security technologies on the cloud is more concentrated on protecting those resources
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um,
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making
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sure that.
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minimize, mitigate risk.
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Manage threats.
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that may, uh, be associated with those resources.
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So
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the two
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certifications compliment each other, right?
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Yeah, because you cannot
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something that you do not understand.
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You can, if you go to security, but you do not understand how to deploy
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deploy those
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resources.
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Then the job is more challenging.
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So I would say.
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uh, a day you become an administrator and then you can stay there.
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Now you can also being an administrator take the security certification and that enhances your skills and opportunities on the cloud.
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Yeah.
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Now, uh, okay.
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That's great.
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So yeah, I imagine even if you are just doing an administrator role, there's, there's no downside to knowing, uh, sort of security.
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Postures and security techniques that are in the higher level thing as well.
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I mean, it might even be able to help you to change or evolve your, your job role if you, if your superiors also know that not only can you deploy, you know, deploy and work in cloud, that you also have some ideas in terms of how to secure it as well.
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Mm-hmm.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Now, uh, uh, one last question here.
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People planning on going into cybersecurity, maybe they're even.
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Doing something that wouldn't look on first, uh, blush to look like it would be at all interacting with the cloud.
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Like say, digital forensics or, uh, what have you, uh, what are the benefits of being this proficient in all things cloud computing?
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I mean, uh, do you think even non-cloud security aspirants should still consider learning these certifications
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Well, the thing
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is right.
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that the cloud.
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Is no longer an option.
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The
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Cloud,
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a default.
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right?
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The
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The
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cloud is not,
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The cloud is the present and the future.
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yep.
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I mean, the
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The cloud
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is
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not a,
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it's a core skill for
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most
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businesses.
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Cloud is becoming more and
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Important
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and
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as
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that
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trend,
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that we will see increasing.
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As you
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as you know.
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the future.
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So
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if you already have uh, some skills in legacy it on premises technology, when you enhance that to the cloud, you expand your possibilities, your opportunity,
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I
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I.
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imagine,
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Uh, you know, in the next
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few years
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that
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somebody
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will stay just
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Isolated managing resources on a
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private,
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network without having some responsibilities exposed to the cloud.
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So
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it is very difficult for somebody
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getting a job in it these
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case and not,
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familiar with the
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yeah.
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cloud administration and we're not talking Azure.
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It is, uh, overall
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All the way around.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that's, uh, that, that's worth noting is that, you know, we talk all the time about future proofing your skills and if you're, if you want your skills to still be relevant in a couple of years, they, they, they better darn well have, uh, a cloud component to them.
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So that's great.
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So, Wilfredo Lanz, thank you for breaking down these, uh, Azure search for us and also the future of cloud security.
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Thank you, Chris.
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