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When you started then, do you because obviously you always that was your main aim always to work in movies editing when you were younger?
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Is there a certain time when you decided that that was the route you wanted to go down?
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As someone with a disability coming into the industry.
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He loves disabilities.
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My brother absolutely loves Steven Spielberg.
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I love Steven Spielberg, but my brother is like on another level of like nerd for him.
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He has like posters all around his house and like Spielberg's face.
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Yeah, of just his face.
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You know, he lies in bed like to a pillow with um Steven Spielberg.
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Yeah, nice, nice kissing.
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Now I do social media, people will stare at me for other ways because they recognise me.
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And one time I was on the train, this guy was staring at me, so I was just like, and I gave him like this dirtiest look.
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Did we get a look?
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Yeah, I was like that.
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I'm a mayor flee.
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So the nerd is referred, but forget what you heard.
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I'm like, James, but on the phone, sure, chicken nuts stirred up Kevin a poor.
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The G is silent when I walk in the door.
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I make love to a woman on a bathroom floor.
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I don't play like Shaggy.
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You know it was me, because the next time it's here, she'd be like, ah, Kevin G.
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That's enough, that's enough, Kevin.
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Happy holidays, everyone.
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We matched that.
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Welcome back to Cut and Close.
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It's me, Josh Hughes, aka the Tourette's barber.
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And me, Queelon, the special Irish fella.
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This is Cut and Close, where we have real conversations, interesting guests, and we take nothing too seriously, and every conversation hits a little fucking close.
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Right, let's get into it.
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Let's do it.
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Yo! Woo! And if you want to support us on this pod, please like and subscribe wherever you're watching this.
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It fucking goes a long way for us, and we're already trying.
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God loves to try her.
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So on today's show, we have another great guest.
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She's a content creator, film and TV editor, and social media personality known for honest, engaging, behind-the-scenes commentary.
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No, behind the scenes look at the entertainment industry.
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And she has the most infectious laugh, which is what I determine from my own side.
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Um, me and Queen can't wait to talk to her.
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And if you don't know her, get to know let's get cracking.
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Bella Roberts, welcome, welcome, Bella.
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No, honestly, thank you so much for having me, guys.
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It's such a pleasure to be here.
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Oh, we'll have a bit of crack and a bit of fun.
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Yeah, I love saying let's get cracking.
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It's honestly my favourite saying.
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And like I have people now, like when I'm on the street, like, just shout, let's get cracking, and then just walk away.
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And I'm like, who was that?
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I'm like, it's like my ghost.
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But it's just it's almost like your catchphrase now.
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I know.
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I absolutely love it, honestly, and I'm glad it's stuck.
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I didn't invent it, of course.
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I'm sure like it's always been a thing, but I think I've just coined it and it's just stuck, really.
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Keep it, trademark it, take it off someone else.
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Actually, trademarked.
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Yeah, fuck that.
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That's hers.
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Fucking let her wrap it.
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You just used it now, you're getting sued tomorrow.
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I'm calling my lawyer.
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Yeah, 100%.
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But I mean, like, usually we talk about how we got to this point of like getting you on, and actually, I think we kind of spoke off camera before, but um, so I like Queen and I have both appreciated you from afar, but actually it was Ryan, our cameraman, who actually was like legend.
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Obviously, kind of in industry, so he was like, have you seen them?
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Of course we've seen he was like, Oh, Josh, try and reach out and see how you go.
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And I'll be honest, I messaged Bella in the morning and we were on the phone by the end of the day.
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And it's not even like it was like, oh my god, I'm so kicked.
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It's just I just think we just clicked, right?
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Yeah, I think you know, I I don't often do a lot of podcasts.
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And so, like, when I when you reached out, I was like, Oh, like I've seen your stuff before.
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I really like your like ethos, and yeah, I also really like in-person podcasts.
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So when you're like, come to my barber shop.
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Barber shop, yeah.
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What do you call it?
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Like we've covered up all the mirrors, so you wouldn't know it's a barber shop.
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I know, I don't know.
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It could be a prison.
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Yeah, I might, I might not I might not be able to leave, guys.
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Well, if this podcast is shit, it must get 10k likes.
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Or I cannot leave.
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Yeah.
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No, I'll leave like with the buzz cut, yeah.
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Um, yeah, so yeah, that's when I was like, okay, yeah, cool, I'll come down.
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And um, yeah, it just honestly really and obviously I wasn't doing anything on a Monday, so I was like, why not?
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Yeah.
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Well, well, you did move some stuff around, I know you did, but we won't have to get into that.
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No, for sure.
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Yeah, 100%.
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But no, it was great, and I think it was a great idea of Ryan, and yeah, the connection, like you said, know it's your brother, and yeah, it's all just I love we love networking with with people with the bigger.
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I think the world is just interconnected, everybody knows everybody somehow.
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It is mad though.
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I realised that the other day, actually, that it literally you are one person removed from knowing like so many others.
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Yeah, like I realised the other day a person that I speak about all the time, and it literally, there's two brothers that run run like a hotel and a pub in our town in Hartford.
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And then I realised I've known one of the brothers for like three or four years, and I'd never knew it was him.
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You know, Nick that runs Brothership is one of the brothers that owns Hartford House and the quietly in that talent.
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To start, because obviously with your social media, yeah.
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To you, is that more of a side hustle compared to what you do day-to-day work then?
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Oh, that's a great question.
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Um, I'm definitely using my social I'm definitely using my social media more as kind of my main thing now.
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Um I definitely obviously work in film and TV and that's my thing, but I always like to kind of take kind of six months on, six months off.
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Um just allows me to kind of recuperate because if anyone knows working in the industry, your you know, the hours are extremely long sometimes.
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And you know, when I'm on a job, it's sort of like I don't really see my friends and family a lot.
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I don't really get to do a lot of content things.
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So when the summer, when kind of content stuff picks up, that's when I like to be free, yeah.
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So it's a mixture.
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Do you literally kind of free up time to do more content?
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Not really.
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I mean, when I get a job through, um, or when you know I go back to applying, uh, there'll be like, you know, I and I never know what I'm applying for and how long the contract could be.
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So it could be like, yeah, we need you to three months, or it could be two years.
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And you sort of have to, at that moment, within a heartbeat, decide, do you wanna just stop everything for two years now?
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And and honestly, that's just sort of how the industry works.
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When there's not a lot of jobs going, you just have to decide there and then are you gonna do it?
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Yeah, it's funny because actually, I I never I never thought about it on that side of the industry because I've got a few friends that work in that construction side, like carpentry and all that sort of stuff, so they build the sets, and obviously they are doing that again, probably like you as well, like fuck your mum.
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They're probably doing that so long before the film comes out, obviously.
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But my my friend who works in the industry, they also have to like kind of navigate when jobs are finished, when they're gonna next one they're gonna do.
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So, is it kind of really similar like that for you guys?
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Yeah, I mean, I'm still very early on in my career, so it's really hard to determine, like, okay, I'm gonna do this next.
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When you're more established, you sort of jump from job to job.
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I'm not at that level yet.
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Um, but yeah, it's really hard to kind of I would say the hardest thing about the industry is like having to schedule your life because it's so hard to determine, like, like next week I'll be free, and then suddenly a job comes up and you have to take it.
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Um, I'm very lucky where I have social media to fall back on financially, where like I have that flexibility.
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I know a lot of colleagues don't have that, where they're literally like begging for a job when they finish because otherwise they have no work.
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Um, so for me, content is something that I really enjoy, but also is kind of a fallback option when I'm looking for work.
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Yeah.
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And did the social media start before you got into the industry, or did you kind of use social media to get yourself into it?
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Yeah, I use social media.
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I use so no, it's all weird.
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Um, I use social media to get into the industry.
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Um, I knew it's a very competitive industry.
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I knew I'm just like every other film graduate looking for a job.
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I thought, what could make me stand out?
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And at the time I treated social media as a hobby.
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I just I liked sharing my love for videos.
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I did YouTube for about five years.
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It never actually got me anything, but it taught me how to edit.
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Yeah.
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Um, and then when I started social media, um I noticed that people were suddenly interested in you know what I had to say.
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So I was like, well, might as well keep it up.
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How long were you doing it that that that sort of way?
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So before I got into the industry, I would say like a good one or two years.
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Really, okay.
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Um, but I basically put an ad out and was like, hey, has anyone got any work?
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And that's how um I got loads of emails, but then one of them in particular was from Warp Films who did adolescence and was like, Hey, do you want a trainee job?
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And I was like, Yeah, please.
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And so that's how I got my first industry job.
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So if you don't want to ask you, how old are you then?
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I'm 24.
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You're 24, so how that was a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, so I think 2022, I'd say.
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Because it's funny, like I think I think I I suppose it does depend on industry, but like I suppose trainee, you are gonna be younger, training job positions.
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But some people say, like, you don't get taken seriously until you're 25.
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No, no, definitely not.
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Like, I feel like I'm still not even taken seriously now, and like I think it's really tricky.
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Like, I feel like you have to build up enough credits, and I think I think age is sort of irrelevant.
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I think it's in in the terms, I think it's how you carry yourself in the industry.
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Beautiful age.
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Like, if you have like credits and you have like experience, then you can go in there, and no one like really asks age unless unless no one really asks like qualifications or age, it's just about your experience, your credits, and how you kind of carry yourself.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So when you started then, do you because obviously you always that was your main aim always to work in movies editing when you were younger, is there a certain time when you decided that that was the route you wanted to go down?
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Oh no, I've always wanted to make movies, like that's always been my dream.
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Um, I think you know, I grew up a lot kind of like having medical problems and like going through the rung of like hospitals and stuff, and the only thing you could do when you're in a hospital bed is watch movies.
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So I used to watch loads of movies just to kind of honestly distract myself from what actually was happening to me.
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And then I used to-that's what film is, that's just a lot of people.
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Yeah, I mean, film is an escape, really.
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And I remember like my favourite movies, I would go on YouTube and type in the name of the movie and then behind the scenes, and I'd watch all the behind the scenes content of it, and I'd be like, Whoa, like it's so cool.
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And just seeing all these big sets and everything, it was so it was so cool.
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And I was just like, wow.
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And then the more I looked into it, I realised, you know, people actually get paid to do this, like it isn't like a like a hobby, like you know.
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Well, I think when you see big stuff like that, you almost feel like it's not actually accessible to the average person.
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No, it doesn't, it really feels like unreal.
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Like, um, and then the more you get into it, you know, the more you you understand the reality of the industry, and we could go down that that's a whole nother conversation, but like just like yeah, it is realistic, but the the connections you need to have to get into the industry is super, super tricky.
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Like to get into it, yeah.
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To get into it, like um, like you have to have some know someone who can recommend you.
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Um, because imagine, I always say this to people imagine if somebody tomorrow posted a job being like Warner Brothers next movie trainee job on Indeed.
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Yeah, like do you know how many applications they would get?
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Well it's like trying to get a flat in London, isn't it?
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Yeah, it would just be isn't it?
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It would just be mental.
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There'll be cues outside the door for that job, and that's why they like at least in my case, an editorial, they'll just go to like the second assistant and be like, hey, who do you know that's a good trainee who wants to get into the industry?
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And they'll get five good CVs and they'll pick from that.
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Yeah, and so it's all like getting into the industry, it's all just networking and chatting to people.
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And I know this whole trope of like, well, you've got to network, but it is so true.
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Like how you don't even need qualifications.
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It's such a especially in London.
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Yeah, London is very um kind of closed off.
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I still feel like there needs to be more opportunities for people outside of London, you know, up north.
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Like um, see, I thought like I know they're not like do big budget films, but like Manchester is quite a hub for the stuff.
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Oh yeah, Manchester is great.
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Like um, they do a lot of like TV stuff.
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Yeah.
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I remember I did a work experience there when I was like 16, and they did like uh like they do like question time and they like media, yeah.
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The media city in Manchester is fantastic, but I'm like I can only speak on behalf of editorial.
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Editorial, yeah, like film, like I would say the hub is in London, like for editorial, specifically Soho, Fitzrovia, and the surrounding areas.
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The shift house of London.
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I can say though, is it similar?
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Because I I did a little bit for TV for hair and makeup.
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And what I know also that is the second that you say no to a job, you wait a long time to get another job.
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Exactly.
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Is that similar with the editorial side of it then?
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Yeah, I mean it is like you kind of just have to, especially at the beginning of your career, when you aren't really established, you don't really know a lot of people, you sort of have to take every opportunity you can.
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And if someone says, I'll give you a job for two years, you're not exactly going to turn that down.
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Um, even if you know you suddenly have to put your pause, your life on pause for two years.
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But I suppose it's you want guarante you need guarantees, right?
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Yeah, and there's no guarantees in the industry.
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I think that's what's the most stressful thing.
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It's like you don't know like when you finish a job when your next job will be.
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And some people get really lucky where it's like you know, they'll have it, they'll have a job, they'll only have like a week gap um between their next job, and then some, like for me, I'm still looking for my next job.
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Yeah, but in a way, uh you know, I'm not being so as proactive and looking for a job right now because I'm leaning back on content again.
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But is you in like obviously your passion is editing, but do you really enjoy doing the content?
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I love doing the content.
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I think that is something, you know, as I get older, I feel like I'm reaching a midlife crisis.
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I was thinking about this, I know I was 25.
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You know, genuinely, genuinely, like I was on the way here and I was like deeping so much in my head, and I was like, you know, is this what I want to be doing with my life?
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Um, you know, is the industry what I want to do?
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Is content what I want to do?
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And you know, I think from my last job, I really struggled like coming home from like a long shift and then having to make videos, like having the energy to do it.
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And I just thought it's so nice.
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It's a lot of mental.
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I just my partner does all my videos, and I just I feel bad because she works in social media as well, then comes back and edits my videos more in the evenings and weekends, and I do feel guilty.
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But she's probably so much better at it than me, and I think you need some sort of subjective eye to look at stuff.
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But I know what you're kind of talking about when it comes to the end of the day, when it's all you've been doing all day, and then you've got to carry on, especially when my job is working on a computer and then coming home and working on a computer again.
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It's sort of like you don't get any respite from it.
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But I'm not gonna complain because I think you know it's so easy for me to sit here and be like, oh my gosh, as a content creator, my life is so hard.
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It's it's nothing like that.
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And I chose to do this, like, and it's a great hobby.
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Like, I'm so so lucky.
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I do see that though.
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I don't not to like slag anyone or particular think about anyone in particular.
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I have seen content creators almost complain about their job.
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We've spoken about this a couple of times, isn't it?
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And we're not talking about anyone specific, but like you really do have to like rein it the fuck in.
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Like you're in a position where actually you have an audience that will watch it.
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Like, I'm never gonna be online complaining about doing content because if I didn't want to do it, I could stop.
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Exactly, yeah.
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Like but I think it's when people give up their give up their day job, commit everything, but then they're like, guys, I'm working really hard and no one's watching my videos.
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I'm like, mate.
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That that for me, like I always think with social media.
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What is that the correct thing to say?
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Sorry, like you said, like we've been spending too much time.
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Yeah, no, it is true.
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Like, I think like I think content creators often forget like how lucky they are, like, to be in that position.
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Whilst it obviously has come from hard work of posting videos and being consistent, you know, like you know, some people just literally will record like a 20-second video on their phone, post it, and it gets a million views.
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Like, I think you know, obviously they are thinking about the content.
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This is not me hating on creators at all.
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I I get there is like hard work put into it and dedication and time.
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No, just say it.
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Who do I hate the most?
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Okay.
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Um that one, you guys, definitely.
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Um uh I to be honest, I don't I haven't met anyone that I particularly dislike in the creator industry.
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Yeah.
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Mainly because I don't hang out with people that I don't like.
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If I meet somebody for the first time and I don't like their vibe, you're gone.
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We don't get on.
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I just go, nice to meet you, and we I just I don't like add them or anything or or message them.
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I like to think I'm pretty chill, like I get on with most people, but I'm quite like a is rec recluse the right word?
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I don't You like your own space.
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Yeah, I like my own space.
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I go to- Yeah, I don't waste time like with people that I just don't align with, maybe or vibe with.
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You know, that's my take that advice sometimes.
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Yeah, I I love I love all my friends and people, like it's not like that, but I just think you give a lot of time to a lot of people, and not like you necessarily do it to give it get it back.
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Who do you hate the most at your friend group?
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Nick Iana.
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I'm joking.
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I'm joking, we'll cut that out.
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But no, we won't.
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No, I'm joking, I love it.
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No, but I just mean as I just yeah, I think even in friendships and stuff, I think sometimes I'm not even saying I do it, but but I think sometimes friendships, colleagues, you can put a lot in, and sometimes you feel like you don't necessarily get it back, but you can't expect to get it back.
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And then you've got to just put like expect.
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Well, I don't know, I don't know.
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It depends on what day you're asking, to be honest.
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But I think sometimes you expect to get out what you put in.
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Yeah.
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Oh, 100%.
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Like and I'm not here at the goodness of his heart.
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No, I know, he's he's here for like the money, the dollars.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She knows how much you get paid.
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Paid by the minute.
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Well God, that's why he's like, hopefully it's gonna be two hours.
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That's why it turned up late.
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Exactly that.
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You're just helping the industry, yeah.
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Oh, my leg don't work like it used to before.
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But now going back to because you started off running, being a runner in the industry.
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Yes.
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What do you remember what the first kind of breakup was to get into actually becoming an editor on movies instead of being a runner?
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So yeah, I yeah, obviously making them as well.
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And um, I what's what so I want to establish something.
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I'm not an editor in film and TV as in like big movies.
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I do lots of like indie stuff outside of the industry.
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And I obviously make stuff for my brother, but like still kind of a trainee working my way up to hopefully becoming an editor.
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But I guess my first break into running was like this, like there was this like access scheme that was set up by this guy called Gareth Hill, absolute legend.
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And he set up the first kind of big up Gareth.
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Yeah, honestly, big up to him, and such a legend.
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He helped he basically set up this scheme in collaboration with the BBC, and it was an access scheme for people with disabilities to join post-production.
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Okay, cool.
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Um, because I was having such a tough time getting a running job.
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Running job is extremely physical, and like I would walk in and it would be like, like, obviously, they wouldn't say it, and yeah.
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Did you ever feel like that?
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Like the eye is I they would never say it, but I would feel it, like I would just feel the weight of like people's reactions when I walked in.
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Like, I'm my height, I like look kind of different, and and it, you know, I didn't look like the conventional kind of Popeye.
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Yeah, for real.
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No, for real, like that.
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So like I'm sorry, it's like that conventional, that's conventional like look, and so I knew that kind of feeling.
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And so, yeah, when I finally got the job, the opportunity, I was like, wow, I'm finally gonna be given a chance.
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Must have been a good moment though.
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Yeah, it was great.
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It was fantastic.
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Fucked so people do get an opportunity and not just people that are you know, maybe the typical person.
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Yeah, is that still going on for people?
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So I don't know like if that scheme carries on, but uh it was me and this other guy, um, really lovely guy called Espin, and we're both on the scheme together, and he's doing really well.
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He's a really well-established assistant now.
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Um, and yeah, I I don't know if the scheme carries on, but I would hope to.
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And my goal I want to see in the future is if I get established in the industry and I make it up the ranks is to set up schemes like for people coming into the industry that that people did for me.
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Incredible.
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That's a cool goal to have though, yeah.
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Because I love the fact you're saying that even at the point you're at.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm still a trainee, but like social aspiration for what you want to put into the industry and maybe change it from the inside out.
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That's the whole thing.
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I mean, ultimately, that's all you can do.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, I always say when the industry is run by like people that you know, and the people that you know aren't people that you necessarily would run into in your daily life, you know, whether that be like disabled people, POC people, like whoever it is, it's hard to bring those people into the industry when the people that you're bringing into are your friends, yeah if you're not actively friends with those people.
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So having those schemes are so, so helpful.
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And not even just um, you know, people that might look different, but people that live in different places, like having schemes outside of London are so integral.
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You do hear that in so many industries though.
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Anyone, I'm not saying anyone lives up north, but you know, out west, out east, up north.
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You do feel like sometimes when you're not near to London, yeah, the mad hub the mad hub of England, that it does feel a little bit like you are a bit further out.
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You know, even with medical stuff, yes, like I I hear it especially in the threats um you know community that actually trying to get the right not even just appointments but the right kind of clinics and and support is really difficult if you're not down south near London.
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Yeah, which is crazy.
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I can imagine, like I'm very lucky.
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Like I I think my parents kind of chose to live where I live to be near my hospital because it's like dedicated um for people in my condition, like it's literally a whole area set up specifically for my condition.
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So I'm very lucky in that sense, but I I I have friends with the same condition as I who like really struggle to get appointments or really struggle to get support, and yeah, I just really feel for them for that.
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Yeah.
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While we touched on that, do you mind what is the condition you're doing?
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Yeah, so I have uh a condition called primary lymphedema, which means I'm swollen everywhere.
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I basically was born without a functioning lymphatic system, and your lymphatic system takes the excess fluid from your blood and puts it back into your basic kidneys, but because I don't have that, the food.
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Fluid has nowhere to go, so it just sits on my limbs, and so yeah, that's why I look swallowing my face all the way down to my toes.
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But some people with a condition have it just in one arm or one leg, or it can be like after you know, a traumatic incident like cancer or car crash or whatever.
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And um have you always but I I was born with it, so I've always had it, yeah.
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So crazy.
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Yeah, it's mad.
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But did you again like obviously we did our research, we've seen you for a file, but you obviously had spoken about that online.
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Yes.
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Is it something that I think I I think I say it a lot now because of the Tourette stuff as well, but do you feel like you advocate for that or do you rather just kind of acknowledge it's there and you want to crack on with what you're passionate about, which is obviously editing and and work?
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Yeah, I mean, obviously I do acknowledge it because it's so visible, it'd be hard to deny that it even was a thing.
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I don't actively like to speak about it all the time.
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Yeah, but what's frustrating is like when I speak about it, it goes viral.
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So it almost feels like I have to speak about it to get those clicks and to get those views.
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Not that I'm after that, but it's almost like, oh, is that what people are interested in?
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They're not actually interested in like me as a person, they're interested in how I look.
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I sympathize, I sympathize with that, not in the s not in the same way with my text.
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I find that is true.
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If I'm and again, people twitch don't twitch 24-7, which is like a bit of a constant miss misunderstood thing.
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But if I just talk to the camera and I don't fucking twitch, people I think people switch off.
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Yeah, which is mad because then I feel like does that does actually anyone care what I have to say?
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But but again, I I'm not moaning about that, but it I know what you mean by like it goes viral because you're you know, if I said something wild, I know it's gonna do well, and that's not really what I want.
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But again, you've got to use what you've got, haven't you?
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You know?
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Yeah, literally, like, and it's it's all just you've got to use what's in your arsenal.
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And I mean, I like to obviously speak about it because I think it is important to acknowledge, you know, as someone with a disability coming into the industry.
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Queen Lance disabilities.
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Like, it's it's so it's so important.
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Like no, I raised so much.
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Like we can't acknowledge.
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Am I allowed to laugh?
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I don't know.
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So we should have established that before.
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That's you're absolutely allowed to laugh, and you're allowed to take the piss out of me.
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Okay, good.
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Because I was like, is this offensive?
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No, no, no, just yeah.
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I'm then like, hold it in.
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You're listening, you're like you're like, don't look at him, just carry on talking what he's doing.
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It's absolutely fine.
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So we should have established that before.
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Thank God.
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Um I just say Popeye, that was I I really hate that shit.
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No, no, no.
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Have you ever heard that before, though?
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Oh yeah, I get that uh comments all the time.
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Oh really?
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:30.960
I thought I was the first.
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No, no, honestly, so that's why I was like, oh, I'm kind of used to it.
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Um, because I'm like, at least come up with a better insult.
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No, I agree.
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I do know what I for me, even like talking about my ticks like that, right?
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I'm not really someone who's actually necessarily paying attention to the visual of what I'm thinking about.
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I'm not thinking about, I was not thinking about it, and I've said it, and then I felt fucking terrible in that moment, and then also just thought like, fucking hell, where like how mental is it in the brain that that's come up?
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Because I hadn't thought about that.
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Yeah, I I honestly I find like like I've been learning so much about Tourette's and obviously like seeing your page and stuff, and it's it's you know really cool.
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But recently I watched the movie I Swear and just such like genuinely.
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I I watched it with my brother in the living room, and I I finished watching it, and I just I was gonna do a review video, like I propped my phone up, and I was just like I just started crying, and I was crying the whole review, and I didn't end up posting it because I'm like, this is so cringe me just crying the whole time.
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:28.960
So I thought, did you not post that at all?
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No, I didn't post it at all.
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Um, but the reason it touched me so much is because like um obviously I don't have to, I don't have like um you know, family with it or anything, but um you know, living with a chronic condition, I can relate so much to um the story, and there was one scene in that movie, two scenes actually, one scene, so I'm gonna go on a bit tangent here.
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:53.680
But we love tangents.
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One scene in that movie, yeah.
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So I read that.
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Um there was one scene in that movie where um is it John?
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John Richardson.
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John, yeah, John doesn't make uh obviously based on his life, um, but he is in a car with someone with Tourette's, and I believe I believe she's she's really she's a Scottish girl that's actually got Tourette.
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I don't know what the I think the context of the scene is like they just met for the first time.
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I think it was her parents brought her down to meet someone.
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She's like meet someone with Tourette's and and then obviously they're they're setting each other in in the car, and it like it's quite like a funny moment.
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But then the next scene is like them just sitting in silence and he's having a cigarette, and they're just talking about their condition and like their feelings, and I related that so much because when I was a kid, I never met anyone who looked like me.
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I never knew anyone with my same condition because it's so rare.
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And then when I was 13, my parents took me to this lymphyletics event, which was an event with kids with other condition with the same condition as me.
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And I walked into the room and I saw everybody who looked like me, and it was the weirdest experience.
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It was almost like walking around with like blue skin your whole life, and you never meet anyone with blue skin.
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Then there's no yeah, and then suddenly suddenly you like walk in, and like there's like a room of people with blue skin.
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Was it overwhelming overwhelmingly?
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It was so overwhelming and it was so great, and that scene just brought back so many memories of like that feeling of relatability.
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Yeah, and then there was another the final scene where he goes in um like post later on in life, where he goes in and has uh kind of like a test with this device that allows him to not silence his tics, but but like like would you say quiet or limit them?
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I suppose it uh it can make it a little bit more manageable.
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.000
But again, with that, like it is it is lovely to see, and I think the film does it really well.
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The only thing I question with it, I think it could be misinterpreted that it's a cure.
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Yes, and it isn't, but but it but it does amazing things.
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I think, especially for physical ticks, um it's supposed to be sorry, we should really pull up what it's called.
00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.599
It's just left me what it's called.
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A lot of people are talking about it right now because it's become so much more accessible.
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Um is that actually out there yet for people to use it?
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I think it's well past trial stage.
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It is excess, yeah.
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I don't know how many are in demand, but I can I feel a lot of people are waiting for it.
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Can we just look at it and look at what it is?
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Because I don't want to cover it.
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I should read it.
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:31.519
It's like an electronic bracelet that kind of gives like um it gives pulses of very, very minimal electric pulses that are supposed to like regulate your neo Neo pulse wristband.
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Neopulse wristband, that's it.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.640
Yeah, so electrical stimulation.
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.480
Yeah, so that's that was really amazing.
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That that was a scene, and obviously he tries it on and he goes into the library, but there was one line of dialogue.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:55.119
I can't know I don't know the specific line of dialogue, but he talks about how like he basically for the last 20 years of having this condition, like he would come in all the time and ask for a cure, and then he just gave up asking.
00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:18.079
And and that line in particular just like made me sob because I can't remember the last time I've gone to my doctors and asked for a cure, and like that to me, like like living with a chronic condition, although I don't have Tourette's, I related so much to the themes of that movie, and yeah, I just thought like genuinely it was one of the best movies I watched this year, and and just the relatability of it for me.
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:30.559
Um, and allowed me to learn so much more about the condition that I didn't know about because you only learn about these things through online or those TikTok videos where it's like this woman was faking Tourette's, and you're like, okay, it just feels so negative.
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:31.680
I think that's the thing as well.
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.640
And I I'm almost taking like credit for the film myself.
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:35.680
But you directly.
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:45.680
I was actually asked to be in it, but but from years ago, and obviously at the time I couldn't commit because of work and it was in Scotland, and I wish it's what genuinely I'd go as far as say it's one of my biggest regrets.
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:51.279
Not because of being in it, I know I would have been, it would have been five seconds, but I just would have loved to have been a part of it.
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.839
And I it is a big regret, and I would have loved to, you know, I've I've I've connected with John, yeah.
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.319
Davidson through messages, and you know, I think we're hopefully gonna see him later in the year in this chair as well.
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.279
Oh, that'd be amazing.
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.200
Um, and I I have to say as well, like you said so many lovely things about the film.
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:06.720
I really think you should post that video.
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:07.519
You really think?
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.720
Because I think the honesty and the way you've just spoken now, I can't it's so bad though, because I'm crying the whole time.
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:22.240
There's no falcing, but I just think the vulnerability that of someone, like you said, doesn't have threats, but the way you felt like you've you've responded to it, that's the whole point.
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:32.160
And I think educating is definitely the way forward, but then to be able to put it again, like another sort of chronic illness that you've understood from your point of view, and that film has made you see your own.
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.079
I just that's that is the whole point.
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.480
And another thing I wanted to touch on about I Swear as well is Robert Arameto who plays John.
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:39.759
Unbelievable, yeah.
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:42.400
Unbelievable, amazing.
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.519
I thought he had Tourette's, I thought that was him, and I and I know it's not him, but you know, he's unbelievable.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:31:00.160
I went to the premiere in London, and just seeing him in person outside of character of John, I was like, one, he's fucking so cold, but two, like, I and through the ages of John as well.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:09.039
From and young John was great as well in the film, but like younger John, and then all the way up to like John in his 40s and 50s was just so well done.
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:10.000
So incredible.
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.559
Do you think it was an accurate portrayal of Tourette's?
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.160
I I truly believe so, yeah.
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:20.799
Uh I think I think like from from my point of view, live growth growing up with Tourette's, I didn't it was probably similar age.
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.519
I was 14, 14 and a half when I developed Tourette's.
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:28.400
And not as dramatically in the sense of like you know we got beaten up in the film.
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:34.240
I think that's a lot where uh a lot of parents I've spoken to with kids with Tourette's maybe didn't want to see that side.
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:39.279
But I think it's a really honest situation, and I've had that situation myself.
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:46.559
I've been beating the shit out of uh calling a lot of black guys the N-word when I and I told them I had threats and then they kind of stuff they didn't understand.
00:31:46.640 --> 00:32:00.559
But anyway, it it can be that it can be that scary at times because you have no control of what you're saying and you're out and about, but I I just think it creates a vulnerability that a lot of people cannot understand.
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:07.839
Like even on the weekend, I had someone, I had a really nice guy come up to me and ask me for a picture, which is lovely, and I don't mind doing that.
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:16.880
And then I walked past him and his friend, and his friend had obviously had a bit to drink, and I'm not calling him out because it does happen, but he was almost like saying to me, Oh, can you twitch something at me?
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.160
And I was like, what you what what do you mean?
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:33.759
Uh and he was like, Oh, yeah, I he actually said the word which fucked me off even more because I'm obviously everyone hates racism, but I I I get really upset about it because I can't control my words, but yet other people can, and they still fucking say it.
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:35.920
But he said, Oh, just call me the N-word or something.
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.440
And I just went, Well, I looked at this mate, and the mate, the other guy was like, I'm sorry.
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:40.559
I bet you he was embarrassed as me.
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:41.359
So sorry.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:48.720
Because he was so genuine he came up to me before and was like, and then um and then I was like, I was like, mate, you want to watch what you're saying?
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:49.839
Well, don't be a dick about it.
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:50.640
I mean, me be a dick.
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.000
I said, You're a fucking prick.
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.200
And he was like, I was at a Twitch, I went, Well, you can have it as a Twitch, but it wasn't.
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:56.000
Cheers, mate.
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:04.160
Anyway, but it was a throwaway, and I actually didn't remember till the next morning because I'd had a few beers, but it wasn't like I don't want to be learning to anyone, but I just get a little triggered about that sort of shit.
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:04.720
That's understood.
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.839
And that doesn't happen often to me, but anymore.
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.640
I did used to get it a lot when we were younger, but I think there's a lot more awareness.
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.039
But things like I swear are creating that awareness for the general public to see.
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.279
Um, and unfortunately, the work is never done.
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:18.160
It's a bit like anything.
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.599
We've won the battle, but not the war.
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:20.880
Yeah, it's continuous.
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.920
Like I relate it like to all people with disabilities.
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.559
There's so much like advocacy needed to for people to be more accepting.
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:45.359
I still have it when I'm out about people just call me their M-word, like the M-word, and you know, especially like it's always like guys when they're drunk and stuff, or when I'm out in a club, people ask me where my parents are and stuff, and like it's just like I have that still as an adult, and like still having to like live that.
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.960
But social media has really helped, like, in the fact that like it was actually so bad, it's actually so bad.
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:59.359
Because like when I was younger and a teenager, like people would stare at me and stuff, and then I would just like stare back, I would like lock eyes, and I would just like deaf stare them back.
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.839
And obviously, now I do social media, people will stare at me for other ways because they recognize me.
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:09.119
And one time I was on the train, this guy was staring at me, so I was just like, and I gave him like this dirtiest look.
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:10.320
Did you get a look?
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:16.719
Yeah, I was like, like that, like literally like proper, like like crazy eye.
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.519
Yeah, and I was like, I was like, like doing this like all to him, like like why are you looking at me?
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:26.800
And then he and then he gets as he's getting off the train, he's like, Love your videos, and I'm like, Oh me, thanks.
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.679
And I was like, Oh no, I need to stop doing that.
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.480
Yeah, so now I've like trained my brain to kind of just like turn it off a bit.
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.079
Yeah, so many years of that sort of yeah, like you're always on guards.
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:52.800
Yeah, and I feel like you you might get this way, you're just always on guard, you don't know what people are gonna say, and like I don't know, even now where it's like I don't know whether it's people saying hi to me because it's social media, or it's because they're like wanting to say something to be funny.
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:53.840
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.039
So it's it's tricky.
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.719
It's a different way of living, I could imagine.
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:00.159
I don't deal with it, but it's it is fascinating listening to people like you two talk about it.
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:06.639
That's also why like movies and film is good for spreading awareness in general, no, because it's such a universal medium, yes, for everyone.
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:07.599
Yeah, that's the best thing.
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:14.320
I think I appreciate us to talk about like your medical stuff and all that, but I think I wanted to touch on the fact that when you said you're watching films when you're hospital, when you were younger, right?
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.360
Was there a film that really like triggered this how like like what you wanted to get into film?
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:20.639
You're gonna hate this answer.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.840
You're gonna hate this, you're gonna hate this answer so much.
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:24.480
Oh god.
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:25.360
Okay, I'm sorry, guys.
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.039
I apologize for everyone in advance.
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:27.519
Go on.
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:28.960
It's Mamma Mia.
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:31.760
Oh, fuck.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:33.840
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:34.159
Okay.
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.480
Well, Piers Brosnan singing terribly.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:38.639
SOS out of tune.
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:39.599
We love Piers.
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.840
It was up there with Castle Crowe and Lemmy's, you know, it's um I don't know what it was that particular movie.
00:35:45.920 --> 00:36:03.920
Um you're not like I I know people probably wanting me to say something super cinematic and and stuff, but I don't know, when you're like in the dire like pits of hell in the hospital, like getting things jabbed at you all the time, and you just can't leave your house or can't leave your hospital bed.
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:11.199
Um, like Mamma Mia was always just such an escape for me because it was like cheesy songs, like beautiful blue skies.
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:21.760
Yeah, blue skies, you're in Greece, like you know, there's three baby daddies, and you're trying to figure out who it is, like and like as like my 12-year-old brain, like I just couldn't really comprehend it.
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.840
Like, I was like, Why don't you just pick one of them?
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.280
You know, just just or have all three.
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.840
A few more prams and a couple more signals, you would have been crowded.
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.719
Just have a have a have a DNA test.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.039
You don't need to do all this, you know.
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:35.519
You know, like they're literally singing.
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:36.960
You're worried in the plot.
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:46.159
I know, but I used to watch it because my mum used to come and visit me because I've seven siblings, so it's like too many.
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.480
Yeah, no, my well, my granny's from Tipperary.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:49.840
Oh, you tank.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:50.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:58.000
No, it honestly it runs in my mum, my granny was one of 17, my dad was one of nine, and now I'm one of eight.
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.559
So you've got 16 football teams, didn't you?
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:01.199
Yeah, I know.
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:02.639
Honestly, I you know what?
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.039
Someone DM DM'd me the other day and was like, I'm your cousin, and I was like, hello.
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.719
You probably have loads of them floating about.
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:10.320
Honestly, literally, they're all floating about.
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.239
And I went to Tipperary like last year to see all my Irish family who had not never been.
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.159
What part of Ireland is like South Fix.
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.039
Like near like Bansha and like all of that.
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.320
And they're like, ha ha.
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:27.039
And they were like, Bella, and I can't do the accent, I'm not even gonna try, but sorry, I don't want to offend anyone.
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.840
Um, but they were like, oh Bella, we love your social media.
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:42.320
And they like, they, oh my gosh, I didn't realise how much like like I like my family, or I don't know if it's an Irish thing, but like they they had like a pre-meal, a post-meal, they had a coffee, they had a biscuit.
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:47.280
By the end, I actually thought I was going to pass away from how much food I had congested.
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:48.559
That is an Irish thing, yeah.
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:49.119
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.159
I was like, it was like, I was like, oh, dinner and stuff.
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.960
They were like, no, now we're having pudding, now we're having the post-pudding.
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:56.559
The thing is, you think it's the stew it.
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.440
I know you were joking, but the thing is they would have had that same meal for your fucking funeral the next day.
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:02.159
I know, I know.
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:03.760
It's a quick turnaround, isn't it?
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:08.000
It is quick turnaround when I think it's like, yeah, like we don't play about you know, I saw this meme the other day.
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:13.280
It was like POV when you've died, and it's like someone just munching sandwiches, and I'm like, actually, yeah.
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:14.480
And I'm like, that's so true.
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:18.239
Like when when you die, like it's just gonna be a big party and people are gonna have like you know, pickles.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:20.079
I've already written it down that I want tacos.
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.440
Tacos, yeah.
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.159
I can't wait.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:22.480
Yeah.
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:24.559
Can we just plan it?
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:25.920
Can we plan it for tomorrow?
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.239
Yeah, oh no.
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:29.599
Put the hat back on quick.
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.679
Oh god, sorry guys, that was a post clip for a hair.
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:34.960
Oh no.
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.199
We did one clip, and the amount of people like, look at his hair and I fuck you know.
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.039
When it's not done, it was your brother that was mostly there, it was, yeah.
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.320
Just spamming the comments.
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.039
Yeah, 100%.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.199
But I'll just say we can talk about Ireland more actually, because I love it enough.
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:50.559
We have to all go to Ireland.
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.119
Yeah, Ireland is so lovely.
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.719
Like, I I was really lucky when I went where it was sunny the whole time I was there.
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:02.480
Yeah, yeah, everyone was like, everyone was like, I was like, Bella, I've arrived and it just became the sun.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.800
Um moved there, you probably bought people up.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:05.679
Bella does island.
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:06.880
Yeah, Bella does Ireland.
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:16.800
There's so many things I want to do here, but yeah, I I did actually a vlog because I went to Ireland to discover if I was related to the last witch that was burnt in Ireland.
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:17.599
Were you?
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:18.480
Um huh?
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:19.280
Were you?
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:24.880
No, so I I did this whole vlog, this whole documentary, and I was convinced.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.000
Um, because basically, uh Robert McClary, or what's the last name?
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:31.760
Can you what's can you Google this?
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.039
Like, what's the last because there's um there was a last woman burnt for witchcraft in Ireland.
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:37.360
Yes.
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:41.599
And her her maiden name was Boland, and my granny's maiden name was Boland.
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:41.920
Oh well.
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:43.199
And she's from the same area.
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:44.800
There's a fair few Bolands floating around.
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.199
Wait, yeah, and she's the same from the same area as where my granny was from.
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:54.320
And like I was like convinced in my head, I was like, there's too many like strings aligning.
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:55.519
To connect to it, let's see.
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.159
Yeah, so I went to Bridges get stitches.
00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:58.800
Yeah, for real.
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.719
Yeah, Bridget, yeah, Blick Bridget Cleary.
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:03.280
So I was convinced.
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:05.840
Yeah, so yeah, so I was convinced.
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:11.840
So then I went to Tipperary, went to the genealogy centre, met this really lovely woman who looked like the mum from the Lorax.
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:13.039
Um great film.
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.960
Yeah, she she was amazing.
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.519
She was just like, and all I could picture was like, dance with a tree, Ted, dance with a tree.
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:26.320
Um so and we met and we did the whole genealogy.
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.960
Turns out we're not related, but I still got to meet so many of my family.
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:37.760
Like, I never met any of my Irish cousins or my family, and they're all so happy to see me, and I was really happy to see them.
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.679
Um, and yeah, I really want to go back.
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.719
Like, I really loved visiting island, and it's just such a lovely place.
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:45.920
Sorry.
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.079
He's he's fisting island.
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.039
We could try that next.
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.679
Yeah, sorry, Granny and Barbara.
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:54.400
Sorry, Barbara.
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:55.440
It's fine, she's dead.
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.360
Yeah, mine's not.
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:00.159
She's done.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.679
That's the next account.
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.360
It's paid though.
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.480
I hope so.
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:10.320
That for free.
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:13.599
We're catching doing that for free.
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:19.360
We should avoid that conversation.
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:20.639
Yeah, we get away from that.
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:22.960
We're bringing it back, though.
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.719
I've seen sorry.
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.719
I wanna I want to go back to Steven Spielberg.
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:33.679
Oh yes, yeah.
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:39.519
I love that.
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:40.400
I've made it in life, right?
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:41.119
Yeah, I've made it.
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.280
But no, just bring it back because that is that is cool.
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.599
Like, is he one of the idols in the industry that you had before, or is that just something that couldn't happen?
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:59.679
I mean, me and Steven Spielberg, I mean, I didn't get to meet him or chat to him person, but I was like, you know, I could say I was in touching distance of him, um, which, you know, I guess is such a big achievement for anyone who loves movies.
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.639
Um, yeah, he's always been a big idol of mine.
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.199
You know, he's made so many of my childhood movies.
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.119
Um, I loved Hook growing up.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.199
Hook was such a big love for me.
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:19.119
Um my mum always quotes like, Come on, daddy, mommy could do it, as like uh he's trying to rescue the children from their kind of ship.
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:21.519
Um, and just like, yeah, Robin Williams.
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:24.960
One of my favourite actors, genuinely.
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.320
I'm so like devastated that he was gone too soon.
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:33.519
And like, so yeah, meeting Steven Spielberg, Jenny, is up there like with one of my lifetime moments.
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:34.480
And how did that come around then?
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.599
Were you doing work for disclosure day or are you no basically?
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:49.360
I just got an email because I obviously doing social media, you get invited to like PR events and things, and uh, they were doing lots of promotion for disclosure day, and I was already gonna see it regardless of if I was involved or not.
00:42:50.159 --> 00:43:00.400
And I was like super gutted because I like didn't get invited to the premiere, and not to be like, oh sad times, but I was seeing all my creative friends getting invited, and I was like, oh, that would have been so cool.
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.360
Like I'm such a big fan, but obviously I totally get it.
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:08.239
Like, and my I feel like I need to up my film and TV content to get invited to those things.
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.000
But um good time.
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.159
Yeah, it will come, and like I was like, you know what?
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.519
You know, I didn't get to go, but like so happy that my friends got to go.
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:21.119
It looks so exciting, and I was already already looking forward to seeing it with my brother, who's also a major Spielberg fan.
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:28.079
And then I got an email being like, hey, we're doing this like disclosure day, um, like sorry, Steven Spielberg themed pub quiz.
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:28.960
Gonna come through.
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.119
And I was like, Yeah, I love a pub quiz.
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.559
I love Steven Spielberg.
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:38.400
And then it just had like a little thing at the bottom being like special guests, and I was like, okay, like cool.
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:46.960
I'd I tell my brother and we go together and we rock up, and it's super cool, like so many like lovely creators, and we're all just like in this room.
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.239
And then they're like, okay, we're gonna get like two special guests to come into the room and like answer the first two questions.
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:53.840
What what who did you think?
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:59.760
I I generally I had no idea, but I was like, it can't be Steven Spielberg, because you know, when you think of people.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.800
You're like, it can't be him because he's like too famous.
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:05.119
Yeah.
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.960
You know, you go to some of these events and you and you get like you get meet so many clubs.
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.039
Could be a look dog spillboat look-alike or something.
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.400
Yeah, I was like, it gotta be like, I don't know, maybe an impressionist or something, or maybe like one.
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.320
I I honestly I was thinking like maybe it was one of the casts from the movie, and I would have been so happy with that because I was so looking forward to it.
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.559
I was like, oh my gosh, what if Colin Ferv turns up?
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.639
Um and Mummy Mia again.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:27.360
Yeah, for real.
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:28.800
I'd be like, SOS.
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.320
Now sing it to me.
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.320
Last summer.
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:42.480
And um, and then obviously, and then I was in the room and I'd arrived late, so I got like one of the like more tight tables.
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.119
So I was like, oh great, like I'm not gonna have the best seat in the room.
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.039
But I was like, you know what, I'm really happy to be there.
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.119
And then I actually lucked out because that's exactly where Steven Spielberg came in.
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:58.800
And I I actually like what I'm so happy for is not even so much for me, but it was seeing my brother's reaction.
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.000
Yeah, my brother absolutely loves Steven Spielberg.
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.400
I love Steven Spielberg, but my brother is like on another level of like nerd for him.
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:07.039
Stop it.
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:11.599
Um, and has like posters all around his house and like Spielberg's face.
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:13.199
Yeah, of just his face, you know.
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.960
He lies in bed like to a pillow with um Steven Spielberg.
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:17.760
Nice teeth.
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.000
Yeah, nice, nice kissing teeth.
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:29.360
Um, and like I just I like seeing, yeah, for real, and seeing like his reaction made that so much more special for me.
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.039
That's lovely that you're thinking that.
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.480
Yeah, like and I know like he still talks about it to this day.
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.199
We still call up and it's like, do you remember when we're at Steven Spielberg?
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:38.239
And then we talk about it for five minutes.
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:39.519
It's gonna be a moment for the rest of your life, though.
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.400
Yeah, no, or genuine, like, if like is it gonna be up there?
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.559
Where you can go like that and you're both.
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:48.079
Yeah, and I just like and then they were like, oh, let's do a photo.
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:54.159
And I know I'm short, so I tried to like get like it's close to him, but I was like, the security guard are gonna punch me if I like go near him.
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.400
So I was like, I'm gonna try and get behind him.
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.960
And then I was like, oh no, and you know that like bit in um Monsters Inc.
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:08.559
where uh Mike was out, he always gets like cropped out the image, and he goes, Oh my, I go he's like, I don't believe it.
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:20.159
I was on TV, and like that was me and that photo where I was like slightly like in the frame, but like obviously too short to be like properly in there, but I was like, I can't believe it.
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.760
I was in the photo.
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:28.480
See, seeing like I I obviously we checked out a lot of your video, like went through everything, but it was seeing that video.
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:29.840
I didn't realize it hit Jimmy Kimmel.
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.280
I didn't know it doesn't mean but then seeing your reaction to that as well.
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.119
Um I like the way you even said it's probably the closest I'm ever gonna be to a guest on there.
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.400
But I was like, you you've been seen.
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:41.119
I know.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.679
I mean, it's still like such a sirol moment.
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.599
I mean, he probably has no idea who I am, and like, you know, that's fine.
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.800
He probably meets so many people that are like fans of his work every day.
00:46:50.960 --> 00:47:09.119
But for me, that was just such a big moment for me as a filmmaker, as someone who loves movies, like but he surely might like I I reckon he does maybe when he's feeling reflective, um maybe not individually yourself, but there must be times where he sits and thinks, how many people must I have I inspired to be like in film?
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.199
And that must be probably the biggest thing he takes away.
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:22.639
Like, I'm sure he's got more money than he'd ever be able to spend, obviously, a catalogue of work, but that must be such a fuck an amazing feeling to know that you've inspired people to do what you want to do at your level.
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.079
Yeah, I mean, I wonder how he goes to sleep at night, you know.
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:27.280
I reckon a labor.
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:38.639
Well, speaking of his movies though, what is what you reckon top three Spielberg movies if you could only have three left, which is probably a bit difficult, but you don't have a choice.
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:43.199
Um Hook probably has to be up there.
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:43.679
Yep.
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:44.960
Top three.
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:52.480
Um, just to come in.
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:53.280
I love George.
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.559
I love I mean there's so many of his that I like.
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:57.440
I mean, Hook.
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:58.719
Can you like name me some movies?
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.320
Because you know when you have like so many movies in your head that you're like almost I can't think.
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:03.599
God, I should look at this.
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.159
Yeah.
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:04.719
Cut this out.
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:07.920
Cut this out so it doesn't make me look like a I'm not a true fan.
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:09.599
We'll just go a quick little Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:09.840
Hook.
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.679
I'm a big fan of um Jurassic Park.
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.000
Yeah, oh yeah, I like Jurassic Park.
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.400
Oh yeah, he's done disclosure date.
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.599
He's done Shinla's List, E.T.
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.199
Oh, yeah, Indiana Jones.
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.559
Indiana Jones, oh yeah, Pride Ryan.
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:28.880
Oh, he did um, he did uh oh actually I've got my list.
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.239
Oh he did the terminal.
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.159
Oh, I didn't realise it did catch me if you can.
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:33.599
That is my favourite one of my favorite things.
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:35.599
Yeah, I didn't know that.
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:35.920
I didn't know.
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.280
He's done so many incredible movies.
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:41.519
I think for me, my top three movies are Hook, E.T.
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:46.320
Yeah, and probably Empire of the Sun.
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:47.280
Okay, cool.
00:48:47.519 --> 00:49:02.239
Now this might be kind of a a weird one, but there is a song in Empire of the Sun um where Christian Bale is like looking off the distance and it's pla and it's like these like planes, and you just know that they're not gonna be coming back.
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:11.599
And there's a song, and it's like uh I wouldn't I don't know if it's a hymn or a choir song, but it's a choir song in Welsh, and it's the most beautiful song.
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:16.400
And I'm not even gonna attempt to sing it, but like look it up, like and it just like yeah.
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.039
I I like when I listen to it, it makes me want to cry.
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:25.360
And so for that, like it's just that that I think a lot of Spielberg's movies that I just love are the scores.
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.079
Like you can you can hear them before you see them.
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.159
Yeah, um, you know, Jaws, uh Jaws is the ego dum.
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:33.119
I love Jaws.
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.719
Yeah, so yeah, for me, like I'm such an admirer of his work.
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.199
There's other filmmakers, of course, who I also equally love.
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.440
Yeah, who's who's that one as well for you?
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.760
I love Edgar Wright.
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.920
Uh he does a lot of uh like Sean of the Dead, Hot Fuzz.
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.639
Oh, just the de There definitely a style there, isn't it?
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:55.039
Yeah, I love his style of filmmaking, especially from an editing perspective.
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.119
I love how he cuts to music.
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.559
I'm I'm very much a similar person in the way I edit.
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:07.440
Um obviously I know he doesn't edit his movies, but um just obviously he influences a lot of the style of the movie.
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:08.000
So yeah, I love.
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:10.880
Sorry, his name's completely F me.
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:11.760
Who loves feet?
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:13.280
Quintino.
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:14.079
Quinton Tarantino.
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.280
Oh Quinton Tarantino.
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:17.760
I mean, I love Reservoir Dogs.
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:18.639
He does creep me out.
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.440
I'm not really talking about him as a person, but like his film style.
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:22.079
Oh yeah.
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.480
He did um he did in Glorious Bastards, right?
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:25.280
Great film, yeah.
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:28.320
Hatefully, yeah, such as so many good films.
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.920
I mean, there's so many good films.
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:30.639
It's really hard.
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:32.880
He cracks me up though.
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:38.159
There's an interview he did where like someone's interviewing him and he doesn't want to be answered.
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.480
And he goes, I'm shutting you down.
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:41.760
I'm shutting you down.
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:42.639
The eagle.
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.039
Yeah, so every time I like um like think of him, I I think of that.
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.920
But I like his story as well because you know he started off in a video store.
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:50.320
Yeah.
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.400
And that was how he kind of started, and then he just he obviously wanted to make a film, but he just couldn't get anywhere.
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.599
So he put himself, I think he was in California, I'm assuming, but just put himself in a video store, watched them all.
00:50:59.679 --> 00:50:59.840
Yeah.
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:07.360
Like, and I love that, and that would have been like late 70s, early 80s, and I just like the kind of dedication to like, you know what, nothing's happening right now.
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:22.159
But he and even a bit like yourself, like you know, you you're trying to make it uh in an editorial, but you're then actually making content about the trying to so you're you're still involving yourself, even though it might not be what you're doing 100% all the time, but you're still involving yourself in it something.
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.119
I think with anything, with any goal that you have in life, you always have to be working at it every single day.
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:40.239
You know, a lot of people say that you know, when you look at people who have come out of the blue and suddenly blown up, you know, it that hasn't always been the case, like that you you haven't seen them actually chipping away every single day to make those opportunities.
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:41.679
You haven't seen the fruits of the labour.
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:54.079
Yeah, and like for me, I actually, you know, my main goal is to be an editor, but genuinely, like I've been sat and as I go back to like my midlife crisis, but um, my main goal is like to make movies like with my brother.
00:51:54.239 --> 00:52:02.639
So I want to edit and produce his movies that he directs, and uh, we're already like in the pipeline, we've already been making stuff for the last five years.
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.480
I made multiple shorts with him.
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.840
We're trying to make this next short to hopefully then make it into a feature.
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:19.199
And recently, after being inspired of the back of obsession and backrooms and seeing how independent filmmaking is making a rise again, I really just I really feel it in my bones that this is what I'm gonna do.
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:26.400
Maybe not necessarily work on other people's movies, you know, those franchises, but make my own things and and and that is my dream.
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.719
Because isn't backrooms wasn't it wasn't that all.
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.639
That's based off the guy from TikTok and it or the nearest.
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.440
Yeah, they both of those guys had the youngest person ever to have a box office here.
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:38.320
20 years old.
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.039
20 years old.
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:40.719
What was the horror film that came out a couple of years ago?
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:42.000
The two twins who are YouTubers.
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.679
Talk to me is so good.
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.440
I was too scared to watch it, but I heard it was.
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:56.400
I reckon we could just leave these two like talking about it because I reckon you just get nerdy over like it's so like No, right.
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:57.920
Sorry, sorry.
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.320
I I I rate you so much, I rate you so much.
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:01.679
Afterwards, afterwards.
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:03.840
That'll be the post post-credit take.
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:04.159
Yeah.
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:12.800
Um, but no, there's so much like hope as well for like um like indie filmmakers now, like who have social media and using that as their catalogue.
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:21.119
And I think like studios are now looking at you know people who do social media as like people who are equally as talented as people who have agents and things.
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:22.400
Well it's a way in, isn't it?
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:30.320
Yeah, there's and I think it goes back to that thing, is like if you want something so bad, you will find a m a way to get into the industry or get your dreams sort of.
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:38.480
I think that is happening a lot with social media in this respect of like whether it's acting, whether it's interviewing or presenting and um editing and everything.
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:45.280
I think that does seem it seems to be paving a way, which was once very difficult, and even more difficult than it is now.
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:45.519
Yeah.
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:46.159
Do you know what I mean?
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.400
I think that because then now you get so much more exposure.
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.159
I had to say there's another guy who I think does more reviews and all that stuff.
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:56.320
Don't know if you've seen him, he's interviewed some of his favourite people and he's so the guy with the notebook.
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.360
Stepping through film.
00:53:57.760 --> 00:53:58.639
Stepping through film.
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.719
Yeah, he's he's such a lovely guy.
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.920
I've been to a few events with him, and he's just as nice in person.
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:05.199
He's crushed across it.
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.119
He's just super down-to-earth.
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:13.679
He articulates himself in such a way which I think you just want to listen what he's got to say, even though he's interviewing Tom Cruise and that.
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.119
Yeah, his name's his name's Tom.
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.639
But he's interviewing massive people, but actually, I'm more I'm almost more fixated on him.
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.440
It's so authentic, though, the way it does it, though, that's the thing, and you can see how much passion he has.
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.960
But he's been given the opportunity to do it, and he's like taken it both once, but never changed.
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.239
Yeah, but you can see much the actors appreciate him actually being interested in her properly inspired.
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:32.880
I can't remember which one touched me the most, but there was one where, like, oh, I can't remember who it was.
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.599
He interviewed uh Spielberg recently and he also did Heartstopper a lot.
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:55.920
Yeah, like because I know he quite likes like their work and yeah, I can't remember exactly what one, but he he it was just the way he really pulled out everything, and you could see the genuine like But it's the fact that he has notes from like 15 years ago watching the movie initially, and then to go back to that and then I know he's just he's such a lovely guy.
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:08.480
I rate him so much, and I think like I'm so glad he's gotten these opportunities because he's so deserving, and you know, as someone who loves equally loves films, you know, I'd be so happy to see somebody meet their heroes.
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:17.199
Definitely, and I think it's nice to hear yourself in the same sort of industry and like being like being absolutely gas for someone else to be doing well, yeah.
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:18.239
You know, that's what it's about.
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:18.800
I think that's a good idea.
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:31.360
I think yeah, I think like I think content is so competitive sometimes, and you often look at numbers, but you know, equally, if you just continue on your path and you focus on what you want to do, opportunities will come to you the same way.
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.519
I think social media is a big comparison thing at the Oh my gosh, it is.
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:40.800
And you meet a lot of people who unfortunately aren't maybe as nice in real life as they are online.
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:45.039
And I've definitely met a few, but um just met another one today.
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.199
Yeah, I'm adding you to the list.
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:50.719
Hashtag blocked when I'm home.
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.360
Hashtag cancel the tourist block.
00:55:53.920 --> 00:56:02.320
But like, no, it's it's it's nice, and I think like you know, the same way you meet your friends, you find the people that you connect with like through content as well.
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:10.239
And I have a lot of film friends that I like bounce ideas off, and we also hang out and we go like clubbing together, and that and that's really nice.
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:21.760
Just you know, also finding people that relate to this job as well, because it is just so unique, like having a platform and having to kind of like manage that and people it can be unusual, yeah.
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:32.800
Like trying to explain it, like you know, I was talking to somebody the the other day, it's like when you are a lifestyle creator and you make content about your life, you realize you've posted things about your life that you've forgotten about.
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.280
Like, I'll come up, I'll like people come up to me and be like, oh, like how's your job or how's your new flat?
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.199
And I'd be like, wait, I've told people about this.
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:40.639
I I feel like that all the time.
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:41.039
Yeah.
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.039
Mine's mine for me is like my Twitches.
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.960
I thought it was so funny when you said that, and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:55.440
But then obviously, because I think when you've been doing it quite a while, but I keep forgetting, I've been doing like posting content quite continuously for like over three years now.
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:03.280
Um it was actually my my partner Lucy was like um she just told me you're struggling at work with your tourettes, but you keep pushing forward.
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:04.559
It's like, why don't you just film it?
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:14.800
And then like posted two videos with two guys I was really comfortable with, did really well, and then one little kid and I called him a pedo in the first five seconds of a video, and it just fucking blew up, and I didn't know what to expect.
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:20.960
And I remember some people being like, Oh, it's alright for you, you've done like you've you know, because you've got to it's obviously done well.
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:23.599
And I was like, Well, I don't think it's obviously done well.
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.840
I just think it's like it hadn't ever been seen before.
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:27.519
Most people online it just happens on it.
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:28.159
It does.
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:29.360
Yeah, it's just a spurt.
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:30.559
You never really predict.
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:37.679
I always find the videos that you kind of fling out there without any not care, but you just kind of go, Oh, I'm just gonna post that thing.
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:41.599
Yeah, normally gets the most views compared to videos that you curate for days.
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:48.639
I think it's really hard to not like I always say that I try not to focus on views and numbers, but it's really fucking funny.
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:59.119
It's so hard when your whole life is algorithms, and you know, when you're working with brands who will be like, oh, what's your uh like uh insights for this campaign or whatever?
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:04.960
And then you you know really boil it down, and then they go, Oh, sorry, we're gonna pick somebody else, and you go, Oh, why?
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:21.840
It's like, oh, because we need this demographic, and you're like, Oh, okay, so and it is then a numbers game, but I remember I I had I had someone reach out to me from Diesel, like the uh clothing company, and I was like, fucking hell, this is like I was thinking of the car company, I was like, wait, like didn't you les scrap them ages ago?
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.719
Oh, they're still about oging up the environment.
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:28.480
Um bitches, fuck here, Star and his mum.
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.039
Sorry, she said no politics.
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.800
Um, but lost.
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:41.760
Oh, yeah, Diesel reached out to me, and then uh to fair my management, they were like, Oh no, here's this car, and then they said, Oh, sorry, it doesn't work.
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:51.440
Because all your followers are middle-aged women, because they wanted male dominated, and I was like, Yeah, like 55% women, yeah, then 45% men.
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.000
Yeah, it's really interesting how social media works.
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:55.360
Hi, Ryan's mum.
00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:59.039
Lisa, Lisa.
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:00.639
Oh, Lisa, at least 50%.
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:03.599
But no, but it's it's but yeah.
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.880
I mean, you don't mean miss opportunities, but yeah, should we play?
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:08.239
We have a game.
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:09.920
Okay, oh, okay.
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:12.079
Okay, should we do one round and I do round?
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:12.880
Yeah, we've got one each.
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:13.920
Okay, shall I introduce the game?
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:15.679
No, actually, why don't you introduce the game?
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:16.719
Cook keep or cancel.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.920
So we're gonna give you three movies.
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:18.880
I'll translate that.
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:19.840
Yeah, what's it?
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:21.199
Do it do it slower.
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:26.960
Because I didn't I it sounded like it's a cock cock kook and anyway, just do that again.
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:28.719
Cook keep or cancel.
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:30.960
So it's cook, keep, or cancel.
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:37.039
Um we got three different movies, and you have to either cut one or keep one or actually you wrote these names.
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:38.480
This doesn't actually make any sense.
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:40.400
Cot, keep or cancel.
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:42.719
Cancel and cost the same thing, no?
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:44.159
No, because no, no.
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.719
If you actually read Is this a new game?
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:53.039
No, Quaylon, if you actually read what I fucking hurt, um keep it's keep, cut, cancel.
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:58.000
Keep one forever, cut one from existence, cancel one before it was ever made.
00:59:59.280 --> 00:59:59.440
Okay.
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:02.159
Cancel the franchise.
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.119
Okay.
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:04.639
It does make perfect.
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.639
You're gonna have to prompt me on all these terms so that I like I agree.
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.719
Uh just remember cancel, cancel is just like you wish it never existed.
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:13.440
Okay, cancel it.
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:14.960
And then cut is just like well, yeah.
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:16.159
Well, it's cut though.
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.639
Cut's like get rid of it, but we will still remember it.
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:20.800
You might be watching the game, but yeah, fine.
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.440
But cancel die, you don't want it, you want to erase it from memory.
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:24.079
Yes, yes.
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:24.559
Okay, fine.
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:26.880
It's like Shag Mary avoid, but we're filmed.
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:27.440
Yeah, okay.
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.280
Uh Toy Story, Shrek, or How to Train a Dragon.
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:31.920
Oh, Jesus.
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:32.880
This is a franchise.
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:33.920
Okay, okay.
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.360
Um, uh, I have friends who worked on how to train your dragon.
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:37.840
Okay.
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:42.639
Um I'm gonna cancel how to train your dragon.
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.119
That's so painful.
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.159
That's so painful.
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:47.360
Sorry, friends.
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.239
Oh no.
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:49.920
Sorry, dragons.
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:51.440
Sorry.
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.559
I reckon Toy Story is difficult though, because I wouldn't know what to do either.
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:57.280
Can I do like a 50-50?
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:58.719
Can I do okay?
01:00:59.199 --> 01:00:59.599
Right.
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:03.280
This is like this is this is like choosing life or death.
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:06.559
Um thinking about what's already out, what's coming out.
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.519
Yeah, I'm like Toy Story's gone.
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.239
Toy Story's um, okay.
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.360
Okay, I think for me.
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.079
Um okay.
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:21.599
Ah okay.
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.719
Uh I'm gonna keep Shrek.
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:25.679
Yes.
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:27.679
Can't Toy Story.
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.079
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:30.960
I love Shrek.
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:36.639
I love Toy Story, but like Shrek was like my era, my generation that I grew up with.
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.360
Um, and also just the jokes just hit different.
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:40.000
It's the best.
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:44.639
See, I I I I love Shrek, but I uh I I was born in '95 with you.
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:45.840
I get it, yeah.
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:46.320
Yeah.
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.320
I think it just depends on how it hits you at some point.
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.800
Yeah, I think like it's like when you grow up, like your age.
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:51.840
Damn graphic.
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:52.239
Yeah.
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:54.239
Um, next one.
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.840
Devil wears parada, meeting girls, legally blonde.
01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:58.400
Hi girls.
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.400
Oh, no, no, no.
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:00.880
Okay.
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:02.559
I hate this game.
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:03.039
Okay.
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.519
Um, I'm suing both of you.
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:06.400
Right.
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:07.039
Yeah, nothing.
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:08.880
I'm gonna cut.
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.519
I'm gonna cancel Devil Wears Parada.
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:12.800
Sorry, sorry.
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:14.000
Stanley's watching.
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:14.800
Especially the new one.
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:15.840
I'm sorry.
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:17.760
I haven't even seen that yet.
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:19.039
Um I hadn't had the two.
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.440
Um, I'm gonna keep.
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.440
So, me girls and legally blonde.
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.320
I'm gonna keep me girls 100%.
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:27.599
I mean girls.
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:28.719
She doesn't even go here.
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.000
Yeah, literally, go for you, Glenn Coco, you glow Glenco.
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:33.199
Go, go, Glenn Coco.
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:34.239
I love lesbians.
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.360
Yeah, literally, and like just sucker on that.
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:39.280
Like, it's so good.
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:44.079
Like, there's so many quotes from that movie that I just think, and like all the kids.
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.239
It's like, oh, you suck at MCs, you got nothing on me.
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.239
From my grains on the line, you can't touch with Kevin D.
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:49.039
I'm a mathly.
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:50.880
So the nerd is referred, but forget what you heard.
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.599
I'm like, James beyond the furniture, chicken nuts turned up, Kevin and poor.
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:57.119
The G is silent when I walk in the door and make love to a woman on a bathroom floor.
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:58.239
I don't play like Shaggy.
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.440
You know it was me, because the next time it's here, she'll be like, ah, Kevin G.
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:03.519
That's enough, that's enough, Kevin.
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:04.960
Happy holidays, everyone.
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.159
We matched that, I love that movie.
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:16.000
Sorry, um, and cut the other one.
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:17.840
Well, you'll cast it on that.
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:18.800
Legally blonde.
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:20.000
Yeah, fuck legally blonde.
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:21.519
Legos are so good.
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.760
I love the musical more than I love the movie.
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:24.239
Yeah, okay.
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:25.679
So I'm doing it for that.
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.039
Okay, so this is a bit more like so in the next one.
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.159
We have Barbie Oppenheimer June part two.
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.760
People are not gonna like this answer.
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.639
Come on, Barbie, let's go, Barbie.
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.599
Umly because you're gonna hate me.
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:46.079
I haven't seen.
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.519
Is there a June part one?
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:48.000
Yeah.
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:48.960
You haven't seen June.
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:50.079
I haven't seen June.
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:50.559
I'm sorry.
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:51.760
Is it Charlie Theron?
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:53.440
I'm sorry, guys.
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:55.679
There are so many movies I need to see.
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:56.400
Timothy.
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:57.440
You know what it was?
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.840
It's because like Wonka put me off like a little bit of Timothy.
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:02.320
Oh, you know what?
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:02.880
A little bit.
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:03.599
Give me that.
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:04.079
Yeah.
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:04.960
Just a little bit.
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.679
Where it was like, Chagle, and let's chagle it.
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:08.400
I can't stand him.
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:10.079
And then I just like I got a little bit.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.480
No, but I I got back on him for Marty Supreme.
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:14.239
I was like, I rate you for that.
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:15.519
But then I had a little break.
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:16.800
He tapped Kylie.
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:17.360
Yeah.
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:25.280
Like, and so yeah, I I I say cancel flip.
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.280
This is Oppenheimer Jim Potter.
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.119
Cancel Oppenheimer.
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:32.079
Uh, sorry.
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:33.599
I just don't apologize.
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:35.920
I just I I I'm not even gonna give an answer.
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:37.119
Do you know who's gonna love that?
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:37.599
Mia.
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:38.639
Mia hated Oppenheimer.
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:40.000
I brought her to the Oppenheimer, she hated it.
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:41.199
Yeah, I think you know what it was?
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:45.519
I think it's like it was just a lot of like atomic bombs, you know.
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:47.119
You'd imagine so, yeah.
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:48.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.159
You know, no, no, I I I you know I'm just gonna.
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:53.760
She's dropping bombs right now.
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.880
I respected the film craft, I totally respected it.
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:01.199
But if I have to pick, like, honestly, gun to my head, okay, cancel Oppenheimer.
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:02.480
That means Barbie.
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:08.400
Cut June two, part du cut June part two, and keep Barbie.
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:18.400
And I know you're gonna say this, but as a girl who grew up with Barbie, um, I like used to play Barbie's for my sisters, and it was such a big part of my childhood.
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.440
And when that movie came out, I was like, wow, I'm really living my childhood.
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:24.800
I like just had so many bangers in there, like Ryan Goslin, like.
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:29.760
Really?
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:30.480
Very briefly.
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:31.119
Love you, Rob.
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:32.079
I know you're my favourite one.
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.519
Like, I really enjoyed it, and like all those movies are fantastic.
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.760
I'm not like saying that movie was bad, and like the others were like Margot rubbed me.
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:41.519
Yeah, like for real.
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:49.760
Like Jesus, there were so many good movies, and like I think it's hard to pick up those three, but for me, Barbie like was the one that I was like entertained the most.
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.400
Like I went away like feeling good after that movie.
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:54.079
Like, yeah, and what's that saying?
01:05:54.159 --> 01:06:01.760
It's like uh oh yeah, when I wake up in my own pink world, I get up out of bed and Saying about my homegirls.
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:02.880
Hey, Barbie.
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.280
Hey, I don't know.
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:07.519
I don't know the rest of the words.
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:14.880
I'm like, and also, um, and a man, uh, a number one, number number two, and then it's like, I'm just Ken.
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:17.519
Anywhere else I'd be a ten.
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:23.280
It's my destiny to live and die a life of blind fragility.
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:24.480
And then like that.
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:35.280
So, like, there's so many like And for me, as someone who loves musicals and singing, like terribly out of tune, but like, I I absolutely love like movies with music in it.
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:38.079
Like, so that's why I loved In the Heights, Wicked, all that.
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:39.440
I I ate those movies up.
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.760
What about Into the Woods with James Brother?
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:43.920
Oh is that the cat thing?
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:44.559
It's awful.
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:45.920
No, oh, cats is even worse.
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.119
I can't, I can't, I can't.
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.119
Um could not sit through.
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:51.760
I'm sorry.
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:53.360
They got a lot of stick for that, though, didn't they?
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:54.320
It it did.
01:06:54.400 --> 01:07:00.559
And and I really feel like, because I know like people that were on the VFX of that movie, and like they were like worked to the bones.
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:01.920
So I'm not hating on them at all.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.400
Oh, it's not.
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.719
But like subjectively, that movie just wasn't it.
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.039
No one wants to say Fermi, furry cordon.
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:07.360
No.
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:09.599
With with did they have the buttholes in it?
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:13.679
Let's talk about Jack Corden's butthole.
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:18.000
He's just eye contact, and you said Clayton's got a butthole in it.
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:19.119
He definitely does.
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:20.159
I've been on a stag with him.
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:24.480
Definitely seen it one too many times.
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:26.400
He loves the chocolate starfish.
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.079
Oh god.
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:34.320
I'm not gonna name it.
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:36.239
I know where the sun rises in Ireland.
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:38.880
County temporary, baby.
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:39.280
Yeah.
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:40.159
Oh fuck.
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:44.559
Well, I think we should start to round off, but one of one of the round off is arsehole.
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.760
Um round off.
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.199
Oh, come on out.
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:50.000
Oh no.
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:52.880
Do you need to go to the toilet?
01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:53.360
No.
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:54.639
You sure?
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:57.039
That was really fun.
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:03.440
Sorry.
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:05.599
Whoo! Shall I do it?
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:07.599
Is there any I can't be talking?
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:12.000
I'll do it because you can't keep yourself together, you professional prick.
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:16.159
Um, have you got anything up and coming?
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:17.760
We did speak about a few things on the phone.
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I don't know what you can and can't say, but shit.
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I don't know if I can drop this.
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When's this shopping?
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When's the shopping?
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Thursday.
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It'll be Thursday next week.
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This week.
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If you can't, it's fine, but there's something.
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The thing is, it's not arriving until Thursday.
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The thing that I have ordered and bought, it is arriving next week.
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Bella does what?
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Dot dot dot.
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Because I I did create a spam account, which is like so random.
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But I have like a more official second account coming, which is gonna be so left field to what anyone would have expected me to do.
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Um, so I'm very excited to drop that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Just I don't even know how I can give a hint.
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You can't.
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Broom broom!
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But yeah, no, but you've got loads of other things coming up, and I can't wait to see you do more.
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And yeah.
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No, I'm I'm really excited.
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I've got so many cool content ideas.
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I want to like start my long form YouTube.
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Uh, because I finally hit like you know, nearly 50,000 subscribers on YouTube.
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I was trying to be so happy about like literally, but it took me back to like when I was 13 and wish for even a thousand subscribers to get even 50 is just insane.
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Yeah, like I will teach you later.
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Yeah, please.
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Um yeah, so yeah, really exciting.
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Just want to make more videos, maybe, but the main thing is I'm gonna be making a short with my brother and just hopefully then trying to make a feature and hopefully one day be like the next um obsession.
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Jesus sucks.
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They were brothers.
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The Weinsteins.
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Anyway, yes, no, definitely not like that.
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You haven't met a brother.
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No, let's not do that.
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I didn't want to say Weinstein's been out.
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Sorry, brother.
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Let's not end it like that.
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Sorry, Weinstein.
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Fucking rotten jail, prick.
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No apologies.
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I can't stop me.
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No, but Ben, I mean, for me and Quillan, it's been such a pleasure talking to you.
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You can amazing.
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It's been so good.
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Genuinely, that was really good.
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Even if you do want to keep Barbie.
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My cheeks are laughing so hard, I swear.
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That was so good.
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I feel like we should end it there.
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Bella, thank you.
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Thank you for doing that.
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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If you want to check Bella out, do check out her handles.
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Bella does edit.
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Fuck Bella does all just fucking check her out.
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Jesus.
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Bella, thank you.
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Thank you for having me, guys.
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Real pleasure.