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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a private investigator drops a bombshell in a new probe and teen girl Celeste her body, her decomposing body found in the Singer D four VD aka David Anthony Burks tesla.
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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Celeste is found dead in the trunk of his tesla.
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Speaker 2: Her body was an advanced state of decomposer. Who would have a motive to kill her?
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Speaker 3: It's obviously a homicide.
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Speaker 1: A private investigator says that after amassing ring, doorbell cam and other camp from all around the neighborhood, he knows who and when D for VD aka David.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Burks tesla was moved. Do I care about the tesla?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: Do I care who put the tesla there or moved it?
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Speaker 1: Yes, because I believe that person had knowledge the Celeste body, a little girl, was decomposing in the truck. If he knows that, certainly the LAPD knows that.
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Speaker 5: Listen Lauden Travunevik, the owner of the home Burke was renting for twenty thousand dollars a month, has hired a private investigator, Steve Fisher to try and find out what was happening in the home he owns. Fisher was hired shortly after a forced search entry search warrant was served at the home. Nobody was home when police served a search warrant.
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Speaker 6: The LAPD says Celeste had been deceased for weeks before being discovered in Burke's tesla. Private investigator Steve Fisher says he has seen surveillance video from neighbor homes and knows exactly when the tesla was last moved and who moved it to the location from where it was towed in very late.
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Speaker 1: July, and the only way to amass that information. To gather it is from the cams in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 5: Listen surveillance cameras in the Hollywood Hills built a complete timeline showing when Burg's tesla was parked on Bluebird Avenue, who parked it, and whether anything was placed in the vehicle after it was parked. There's also no evidence indicating Celest's body was transferred into the tesla after it was parked on the street.
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Speaker 1: And we were learning so much more. For instance, apparently the tesla on the street was the one that David Anthony Burke aka Burt d FOURVD used mostly but then another tesla was in his garage and the tesla on the street looked like it had been out in the elements. Joining me in All Star panel, but first joining us tonight the private investigator that says he knows who moved the car and went joining me right now. Private investigator Steve Fisher. He's been on the case from the very very beginning, missing person's private investigator, search and rescue specialist and owner of Search Investigations.
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Speaker 2: He is the one hired by.
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Speaker 1: The Hollywood Hills property renter, the leaser where the four VD David Burke was living. Stave Fisher. First of all, how did you get hired on the case? How did that go down?
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Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 7: I was originally looking into the case because I had another missing person's case and we thought that they that might be the female, and then once she was identified, we knew it wasn't. But I had accumulated some information and I had put out there publicly and the owner got in touch with me.
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Speaker 8: You know about that, And that's how I do evolved.
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Speaker 1: Okay, the owner of the house or the manager who who got in touch with you? The guy that owns the house, the actual.
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Speaker 7: Owner of the house city him and his wife.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you claim, Steve Fisher, that you know when the car, David Anthony Burg's car was part there. That's important to me because I believe her body, Celest's body, the little girl's body was already in the vehicle when it was parked.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I agree with you.
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Speaker 9: I think it was too It was.
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you it was July twenty ninth, and it was midday, the mid morning, or I should say, And I do know. You know who was that moved it right now it's saying who that is. But I'll tell you it's not far the area they moved it.
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Speaker 1: Put him up, Steve Fisher. Have you heard the phrase word salad. It's like all the words jumbled up together. You might might have an onion or a tomato. I don't know what you just said. Okay, I know who hired You've gotten that far with you. Listen. I'm a JD, not a DDS. But you give me a set of pliers and I think I could pull your twoth.
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Speaker 2: You've told me who hired you, You told me.
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Speaker 1: Why you were hired. You're on another missing person's case. You amassed information from that neighborhood. You put it out there. Somebody saw that and hired you on this case. All right, you're not hired by D four VD aka David. You're not hired by the guy that leased the house. I got that far with you. Let's back it up to right there.
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Speaker 2: Repeat.
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Speaker 1: You claim that you have amassed cam camera video camera evidence from the neighborhood, and that having looked at that, you've placed you've pieced together a timeline, and you know when Burke's tesla with a dead body in it, I think was first part in the neighborhood, when the first part in the neighborhood, it moved to that.
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Speaker 7: Last spot on July twenty ninth at about eleven something in the morning, and I'll tell you it was in the same shape that we saw it in those toe photos where it was completely dirty and trashed. I could tell that they had run the windshield wiper once just so they could see out of it, and they had rolled the window down to move it even though they're moving about a block and a half. But it was in that condition still, so it had not been used in a long time. They had clearly been just moving it around different areas of the neighborhood too.
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Speaker 1: Randy Kissler, veteran trial lawyer joining us at the Atlanta Jurisdiction Emery Law, Professor, Foreign Chair of the ABA American Bar Association Family Law Section, and author of Divorce, Protect Yourself, Your Kids, your future. Randy, have you ever had to have a witness, and it can be your witness declared a hostile witness on the stand? I hate doing that. I don't mind doing it to the sides witness. I do that all the time, But with my own witness, if I can't get an answer out of them, you ask the judge, Judge, I'd like the witness to be declared a hostile witness. What does that mean? I can then cross examine my own witness. Have you ever done that with your own witness?
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Speaker 8: You mean like you're just doing Steve Fisher. Absolutely, it's sort of fun, exactly. You know, when you're.
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Speaker 10: Direct examined and you're limited, you can only ask open ended questions, why did this happen?
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Speaker 8: What happened?
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Speaker 10: But on cross if you can treat your own witness, the one that you know what they're going to say, as hostile It's.
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Speaker 8: Wonderful because then you can say isn't it true?
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Speaker 10: Excellent, and then we get to testify in essence, right, you get to testify and say didn't this happen?
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Speaker 8: Didn't it go like this, isn't this what happened? Because you know the fact.
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Speaker 2: You want to was a yes no answer. Kessler.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate all that, but have you ever had your own witness declared as a hostile witness?
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Speaker 8: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Amazing, Okay, you do that when the witness is refusing to answer your questions. You think you knew what they were going to do when they get on the stand in this surprise, guys.
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Speaker 2: They don't.
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Speaker 1: Okay that in mind, back to private investigator Steve Fisher, I did manage to get some information out of you that I didn't know that being July twenty nine, eleven, am Burke's tesla was moved to its last location.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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Speaker 8: Correct?
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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you know where it was parked before that?
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Speaker 11: That?
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Speaker 7: I don't know because from the house that was taken from is a little bit down the hill, but on the same street that the.
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Speaker 8: Rental house is on.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me the tesla that hill. Celeste decomposing body is on the same was ultimately left on the same street where he was living.
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Speaker 7: It looked like he was coming from the rental house. He can't say for sure, but there's only a few houses on that street because that's like an off street, and it would came down that road and was turning onto where you'd go up the Bluebird there where it was left.
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Speaker 1: Okay, are you telling me, I'm having to interpret everything you're saying, Steve.
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Speaker 2: Are you you're.
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Speaker 1: Talking private investigator talk? Are you telling me on a video you can see the tesla coming from the direction of his house.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, So how the road is curved, and so the house that captured that is kind of at the base of the curve, so you can't see you see it coming down the road, you can't see exactly where it started, and you can't see the driveway of the rental house.
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Speaker 2: It stops right before that the cam rangle does wow. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Reminder D four V D aka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. Crime stories with Nancy Grace joining me right now, p R Guru to celebrities like DFOURVD, David Anthony Burke Rob Shooter joining us, host of Not Even Nice podcast, author of an upcoming novel. It started with a whisper excellent title and you can find it Robshooter dot substack dot com. Okay, Shooter, I'm going to go into this in depth later, but other celebrities have actually gone on social media and said, Wow, I want Burke dfourvd's downloads. In this case, a dead body in your trunk can really hurt your reputation. So what do you make of how dfour VD David Anthony Burke is going to get out of the fact.
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Speaker 2: That Fisher just dropped like a bomb. He's got video.
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Speaker 1: Of the tesla coming around the curve from the direction of Burke's house, his mansion.
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Speaker 2: And it's got the body in it. He's watched the video.
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Speaker 1: He never sees the body or anything else being put in or taken out of the car. Hence the body was already in the car and it's coming from Burke's house. What are you going to do with that, pr guru, Yeah, Nancy, anything you can do it on the front of Vogue.
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Speaker 12: The only thing you can do in these situations, if you were innocent, is tell the truth.
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Speaker 9: Lawyers hate that. Lawyers hate it when publicists get involved.
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Speaker 12: But here they're not just fighting, but they're legal, their legal future, but also their professional their their reputation, and so we would encourage them, if they were innocent, to tell their side of the story, to get that out now. So it's very very tricky here. You have to sit with your client, You have to have a really serious conversation, and they have to basically tell you are they innocent?
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Speaker 9: Are they guilty?
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Speaker 12: And if they are innocent, then he's got an amazing story to tell everything here.
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Speaker 9: Look, it's really bad for him.
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Speaker 12: However, if this is awesome, terrible, crazy misunderstanding, this is an amazing story, and so if he can tell that, then he'll be okay. But once again, he has to be innocent.
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Speaker 1: I had to hear your hol spiel before I jumped in some quote terrible misunderstanding, Control room. Can you show me a photo of this little girl, Celeste. Okay, she's dead and dismembering and decomposing in his trunk and you just call that a terrible misunderstanding.
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Speaker 9: What I call the.
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Speaker 12: Terrible misunderstanding is him being blamed for this. That's what is the terrible misunderstanding here. If indeed he is innocent, this young girl who is dead, who is decomposing in the back of a fancy tesla, that is not a terrible misunderstanding. That is an absolute disgrace, and we've got to get to the bottom of it. But we haven't got there yet, Nancy. And so maybe, just maybe there's a chance that he didn't do it, and if he didn't, he should tell us everything right now.
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Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter, you can really hurt your crotch when you're riding the fence that way. Okay, just be careful of that. Katie Forrest are joining me right now. Assist of Exclusives editor us son Let's follow up on Shooter's terrible misunderstanding comment a rapid fire Katie, A thank you for being with us tonight. And B did D four fey d David Anthony Burke ever report his tesla missing?
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Speaker 11: That is the main thing that I found very interesting, and also not just the tesla book. You know, if he was in a relationship with Celesti and he hadn't heard from her in months weeks, you know, obviously she was a team runaway, but he never reported that either. I think It is very interesting. You know, if you if you were this close to this girl, whether she was a friend with she was a partner, you think that he would be shouting from the rooftops, you know, where is she?
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Speaker 2: And also yes, lay the car as well.
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Speaker 1: Did you did hear me say lightning round right?
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Speaker 2: Right? Okay?
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Speaker 12: Yes?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 2: Did he ever report his tesla missing? Absolutely not? Okay did he ever report Celeste missing? Absolutely not?
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Speaker 1: So you know, back to you shooter, certainly she's gone and he doesn't report her missing or his tesla missing.
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Speaker 2: How do you again, fluff.
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Speaker 1: That up and make it all glossy for the front in touch the inquirer?
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Speaker 2: What how do you pick the hasard?
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Speaker 9: She has a history of running away.
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Speaker 12: This is somebody who left many many relationships, many many lives, and so this is a troubled person. And that is not not blaming the victim here, Nancy, at all. But this somebody who has a history of making erratic decisions. That's how it is going to be presented. It's going to be presented like he was her mentor that he was looking out for her and one day he got up and she disappeared, and as upset as he was about that.
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Speaker 9: He didn't.
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Speaker 12: He didn't think this was that unusual. It's a very tricky argument. I'm not saying it's going to work, but that's what they're going to do.
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Speaker 9: That's how they're going to position it.
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Speaker 1: And that is why all the stars hire Rob Sheoter as their PR guru. Okay, bang to Steve Fisher. Fisher, then't forget about you. Steve Fisher is a very high profile private investigator who is investigating another missing person's case and somehow landed in the middle of the Celeste investigation.
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Speaker 2: So so far I've gotten out of you tonight.
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Speaker 1: That the tesla, ultimately with selest body in it, was moved to the last locations July twenty nine eleven am in a trash condition like it had been out in the elements, driving through the desert or mudbuggin.
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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, as an horrible condition, same condition that you see in the photos.
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Speaker 1: You also told me that you saw video of the car coming around the curve from the direction of Burke's mansion and parking.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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Speaker 8: That's correct?
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Speaker 2: What day did you see that?
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Speaker 8: It was on? July twenty nineties.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, did you see any cam video, camera video of any nature that showed the Tesla part in that area prior to July twenty nine.
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Speaker 7: I have seen the images that I obtained from the Deferment Transportation on the day it was ticketed and toad which was September fifth, and then I have seen a video that shows it in May of twenty twenty five, very clean, but actually parked on that Bluebird Street that one was ultimately towed from, but it was clean.
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Speaker 8: At that time.
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Speaker 2: Could you give me those dates again?
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Speaker 1: Place the dates that you observe the car part on that street go ahead.
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Speaker 7: First time I've seen it part was May of twenty twenty five. There's a video of it parked on Bluebird, which is the same street that it.
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Speaker 9: Was ultimately towed from.
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Speaker 8: And then the other imagery I.
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Speaker 7: Have is from the Defermative Transportation. I'm sure those images you're showing now that I obtained when they took when they towed it, just a document.
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Speaker 8: The towing.
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Speaker 7: And then I do have one from earlier in January where the car is parked in front of the rental house. It shows that it's very clean but does have that rear damage already, the larger dent in the back of the car.
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Speaker 2: Okay, got it?
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Speaker 1: So you're saying May twenty twenty five is the earliest you can place the car on the street in that neighborhood. But to U Katie Forrester, when do we believe when did Celeste drop off the map? When was the last time she was actually seen by someone?
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Speaker 2: So it's actually quite hard to tell.
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Speaker 11: But she went missing a year prior and then as far as I know because I spoke to family, she did come back two or three times. But we think that she was missing from her family home for at least six months before she was found dead. So yeah, quite a long time.
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Speaker 1: Dave mac, We have shown over and over the photo of celestis little teen girl age thirteen at a concert in the friend and family area.
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Speaker 2: If we could pull up that.
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Speaker 1: Video please, as I recall that was August the fourth, Is that correct?
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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, get on, that was in August Maryland.
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Speaker 1: This from at clips of David on TikTok. How can somebody put a then thirteen year old little girl in a truck and leave the car there for weeks on end, Celest's body was found in a black tube top and ripped jeans. You could smell the trunk as you approached the tesla. Her body found in a black tube top and ripped jeans, the same out that she has on August the fourth at the D four VD David Burke concert. So I'm trying to narrow down the timeline, Fisher, That's what I'm doing here.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to understand you saw a person emerge from the tesla. I assume that was July twenty nine at eleven am. You saw a person get out of the tesla.
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Speaker 7: No, I didn't get out of So they drove by in you know where they drove by the camera and the test I could tell who it was, but then they're too far out of range, you know, when they hit the parking spot, so I can identify the person from when they drove within four or five feet of the cam.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's even much better.
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Speaker 1: So you're telling me it's not the person getting in or out of the tesla.
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Speaker 2: They drive by a camp and.
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Speaker 1: That's July twenty nine, correct, correct? And you get a face shot? Is that correct?
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Speaker 9: A face shot?
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Speaker 7: And because the tesla is so you know, has some way windows of the upper body and they're wearing something very distinctive reminder.
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Speaker 1: D four VD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. So let me ask you this, Steve Fisher, are you familiar with all of the people that work with and for Burke?
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Speaker 2: You know what they look like?
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Speaker 7: I do, now, I didn't you know at that time, but the main players I certainly become very familiar with. There's a lot of photos of them. We came into a lot of media of them that was left at the house.
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Speaker 2: Steve Fisher, why won't you divulge who was driving the tesla ostensibly with celest body in the trunk.
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you I would like to, I'll be honest with you, but by a statue, I cannot unless I have my client's permission. That's just something a regulation that I'm bound by. And right now they want to give Laped a little bit more time. If it was up to me, I would I would put it out there because it's been seven weeks and I don't understand why, at least the concealment charge it can't be dropped by the time and you can always stack charges on top of that.
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Speaker 8: So I don't agree with that. I would put it out if it was up to me.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned you got a clear picture of the driver's face. Was the window rolled down?
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Speaker 7: It was rolled down, and they were only going a block and a half. It was seventy seven degrees and the car, if it was parked in front of the rental house, it was in the shade. So I don't understand why they'd have the window down like that.
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Speaker 1: And obviously to doctor Kendall Crown's joining as Chief Medical Examiner Trett County, the host of a new podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue. He is an estamed lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, Doctor Kendall Crowns, by that point, with a decomposing body in the car in the trunk the front, the tesla has a trunk in the front, I think.
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Speaker 2: I know why they roll down the window, Doctor Crown.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's going to be March decomposition. The body is in the trunk or the frunk or whatever you call the thing, from sometime in July to all the way in December. So there's going to be green discoloration, bloating of the body, purging of fluids or fluids coming out of the mouth and other orifices. It's going to be attracting insects. I'm sure that Fronk isn't completely fealed, and that's going to create even more decompositions. So there's going to be a lot of a lot of odors emitting from that vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe, Randy Kessler, a veteran defense attorney, that whoever was driving that Tesla that Fisher won't divulge, could not smell the overwhelming odor of decomposition, and yet they just left the car there.
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Speaker 10: I agree, but they could also say, you know, it's California, it's beautiful, how or put the windows down. There's their alternate explanations, which defense lawyers who.
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Speaker 8: Of course use.
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Speaker 1: Here you're seeing a demonstration by Scott Iiker he did for us with his daughter, who is about the same height and weight of Celeste. Yet the person who dropped the car off, Steve Fisher, clearly able to smell the decomposition, a little Celeste in the trunk, just left the car there, But yet you won't divulge who it was.
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Speaker 7: I think, greeting very close, I'm hoping they want to give you my client wants to give Laped a little bit more time, and I have to go by that.
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Speaker 9: It was up to I've listened.
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Speaker 7: I'm very much a personal rapper information out there and try to get people to get nervous and make statements and stuff. So if it was up to me, it would be out there. It's just not my decision one hundred percent, you know, But I.
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Speaker 2: Well, Steve, let me ask you another question.
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Speaker 1: I understand you're not telling me, fine, Steve, have Celeste family called you or has D four VD David Burke called you and said, who parked.
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Speaker 2: The car with her body in it? Who have they called? And asked?
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Speaker 8: No, nobody has.
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Speaker 7: And I'm kind of surprised me that I would love to talk to your Sliss family about this, and even the person that I listened, I've gotten zero calls from anybody on David's side or last side.
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Speaker 1: Randy Kessler joining US defense attorney out of Atlanta, Randy Casser, wouldn't he call Steve Fish and go, you got that video? Who was driving my car with the US body in it?
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Speaker 2: Tell me? Don't you think he would want to know?
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Speaker 10: I think it's exact opposite of what Rob Shooter told you, which is, you know, tell your innocence, try to figure it out if you're innocent.
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Speaker 8: Lawyers are telling him, don't do anything.
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Speaker 10: Make them prove their case, whatever the situation is, even if you care about this girl and you.
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Speaker 1: Love her and you dorm make sure what case what make the laped prove what case?
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Speaker 8: The potential case.
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Speaker 10: Is they're going to prove or they're going to indict, or they're going to charge, or they're going to arrest David, or they're going to try to make it seem that he's anything this entertainer says, or anything anyone on his behalf says is going to be used against him.
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Speaker 8: Right now.
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Speaker 10: He's in a world of trouble, reputation wise, maybe freedom wise. I think he's doing what he's supposed to do, which is just not say.
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Speaker 1: Casseler if I love very misleading.
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Speaker 10: Oh how many times have you heard the lawyer say, I don't care how innocent you are, you don't say a word because saying something might make it worse than it is right now, Right now, they don't have enough to prosecute me.
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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about, Okay, I'm talking about this. He didn't have to do it. He could have his lawyer do it. That's not going to come into evidence. You cannot put Fisher up on the stand and say what did the lawyer say to you?
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Speaker 2: That's your say and there's no exception.
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Speaker 8: I don't want any more when I have a.
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Speaker 2: Lawyer call and say, hey, who was driving his car?
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Speaker 10: Because it creates a conversation, It creates in you into, it creates implications, it creates.
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Speaker 2: Tonation, I love Mary, did you play football?
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Speaker 1: Because he absolutely can have his lawyer call and say who was driving my car?
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Speaker 9: Why that would not come.
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Speaker 1: Into evans unless David said it himself.
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Speaker 10: Why why even start the conversation? Why not wait until they're going to come out and they're going.
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Speaker 2: To sell you this much.
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Speaker 1: If my husband was decomposing in somebody's trunk, I would be jumping on their chest until I found out who drove the car.
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Speaker 2: There knows.
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Speaker 8: But if you're under suspicion and.
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Speaker 1: Possibly guarantee you I'm not going to kill him, well, nobody's going to tell me you're talking crazy. Don't have a strength. Doctor Delatory with me. Doctor John Delatory, Psychologists, mediator specializing in forensic psychology.
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Speaker 2: Doctor delatory.
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Speaker 1: Did you just hear everything that Rob Shooter and Randy Kessler said, all the big misunderstanding, the little problem of the dead girl decomposing and dismembered.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to add in a bag, a trash bag, and a trunk.
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Speaker 1: Shooter call that a little misunderstanding that Bert should explain away since he's obviously innocent. And you heard Kesser say, why should he call an inquire about who may have done this?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think those are the perspectives of professionals who are trained to act in a certain arena based on the court of public opinion or the court of law. But no one is talking about celest She was thirteen years old. I don't like this idea that she's declared a teen runaway. There's clearly something going on with her. She's thirteen years old when all of this stuff is happening. She could have been convinced that all of this was her decisions. But no one is talking about what was going on in that house. Why was she there? Why weren't any of David's friends saying, Hey, this girl's way too young, we need to put her back with her parents.
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Speaker 8: And now she was.
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Speaker 13: Left tot to literally to rot. That's what she was left to do, because that's how little all of these people thought about her.
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Speaker 14: The Tesla owned by Burke had been his daily driver for a long time, regularly getting the car cleaned inside and out. However, when the Tesla was towed, it was dirty with body damage. PI Fisher says it looked like the car had been off road in the desert, without wheel wells, beat up and a huge den in the back. While his former daily drive sits dirty by the curb for weeks, Berger.
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Speaker 2: Keeps a clean red Tesla in the garage.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Reminder, D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
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Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.
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Speaker 1: There is a dead body in there one hundred and fifty feet away.
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Speaker 2: From his house. This is a car containing his girlfriends.
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Speaker 1: Allegedly dead, dismembered body.
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Speaker 5: Bloody remains are found in a vehicle register in two years. Yet you continue on this world tour.
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Speaker 3: Like nothing was found in your car.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of the world tour, that David Anthony Burke aka D four VD, David embarked upun to Steve Fisher, the private investigator who has amassed home security surveillance ring camera you name it, and has identified the last time the tesla was moved with celest body in it, we believe was July twenty nine around eleven am. He also clearly saw the face of the driver, which he is not divulging. Let me ask you about the timeline.
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Speaker 2: Steve Fisher.
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Speaker 1: How long was the tesla parked on the street for the last time before Burke left for his tour.
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Speaker 7: From the time he was moved to the last spot, which is on Bluebird, So on July ninth, when I saw those like eleven in the morning. Later that evening they begin the tour and they actually leave that evening for San Francisco for the first show.
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Speaker 1: So apparently, Steve Fisher in that neighborhood. When you leave pretty nice neighborhood, the mansions are worth millions of dollars. When you leave a filthy, disgusting car or any car parked on the street in front of one of those houses, that homeowner gets very irritated to have a nasty car or a junk car sitting in front of their lot right their multimillion dollar mansion.
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Speaker 2: So you can't leave a car.
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Speaker 1: Abandoned for very long. We're it's going to get towed. Would do you agree with that?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: And I talked to the person who actually called it in, and that's exactly why. It's not so much how long it was left there as the condition it was left in, and they felt it was abandoned because of the body damage and it was accumulating turk. It's the car had been cleaned, I probably would not have been called in, but they felt that it was. It was abandoned and that's when they called Department transportation.
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Speaker 1: So what do you make of that, Randy Kessler, that the very night that Burke is leaving on a world tour, they just have to move that car one last time, to just put off for maybe a day, two days, three days before it gets reported in front of somebody's yard and gets towed just one last time before he leaves on til a.
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Speaker 10: Little bit of circumstantial evidence, and you are not going to get a conviction based on that, but it helps the prosecution a little tiny bit.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So you may agree that it is circumstantial evidence of the state could use.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: That's what the takeaway from what you just said.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, everything is not circumstantial evidence, But.
00:32:22
Speaker 2: I got what I wanted.
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Speaker 1: I want to move forward with that thought, the fact of the coincidence that he loves for tour that night, and the car is moved one last time, pushing forward the eventual towing straight back out to especially Guess joining us Katie Forrester with exclusives, editor.
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Speaker 2: At the US Sun Jumping Katie.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it's interesting that you can't drag a body down the streets. So I mean, we are waiting for the cause of death, and that's going to be the main thing. I think that it's going to switch this investigation. She strangled was accidental, you know. I think things that can really shift when not comes.
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Speaker 2: Down see Fisher.
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Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe that in a home with this home that costs us much and has outdoor cameras, that there were not interior cameras like nanny cams.
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Speaker 2: Did you see any The.
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Speaker 7: House has a really sophisticated security system, including cameras inside, but the owner left it up to the person at least the house of what they enable or not. And I know that laped has taken the cameras and the the DVR system, but on the smoke detectors of the house they were covered, so I don't know if they had also covered the cameras, and LAPD is not informing us what may or may not be on cameras or if they were even enabled.
00:33:44
Speaker 1: D FOURVD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: You know another issue that has just happened, straight back out to rob Shooter PR guru upcoming novel. It started with a whisper on Amazon, host of naughty but Nice podcasts, and you can find him at robshooter dot substack dot com. Shooter in the Last Days D four VD David aka David Anthony Burke has had all of the bloody shirt merchandise pulled. You can't get it anymore. You remember when Kanye I'm afraid to say.
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Speaker 2: His name, it may conjure him up.
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Speaker 1: Had shirts with swastikas on them.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Remember that PR nightmare?
00:34:46
Speaker 9: I do remember it?
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Speaker 4: Mm hm.
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Speaker 1: And now this what took them so who is helping this guy?
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Speaker 2: For Pete's sake? What took them so long to pull the bloody shirts?
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Speaker 1: Now there's a rumor online not true, that he had mixed celess blood in the paint to make those shirts.
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Speaker 4: That's ghoulish, not true. Go ahead, Yeah, it's awful. This should have been removed immediately. But we have to remember here, he is not a superstar. This is somebody who's pretty early on in their career. They probably don't have the very best people around them yet. I've worked with a lot of celebrities and when they start out in their careers, they don't.
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Speaker 9: Have the people, the top notch people on.
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Speaker 12: Their teams yet, primarily because they can't afford them, they don't have access to them. So his career was still in the beginning phrases here, So whoever's advising him probably isn't that experience that this should have been removed immediately. It wasn't. Eventually they fix that. I think ultimately they did the right thing, but it took.
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Speaker 9: Them way too long.
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Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. This little girl, just thirteen years old, she goes missing. She had been living with this grown man.
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Speaker 2: She's been gone over a year with him, and now she's dead. With us an All Star panel, and now.
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Speaker 1: We are learning that there were farm implements found in Burke's mansion that were left there were not seized by police. Things that you wouldn't normally expect to find in someone's home.
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Speaker 2: What are they? We don't know yet.
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Speaker 1: Joining me as I said an all start panel, Doctor Kendall Crowns.
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Speaker 2: We also understand, is this.
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Speaker 1: Right, Katie Forrester, that the drains were searched in the home. That's the bathtub drains, the sink drains for blood evidence.
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Speaker 11: Yes, and there were photographs of them leaving the house with the computer with other bits of evidence. But I think it was only on one day. It seemed very swift, so I don't know whether they managed to get a law.
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Speaker 1: You know, Doctor Kendall, I would have thought that that type of investigation would take a lot longer when you are breaking down these sinks and the drains and bathtubs, bathroom sinks, kitchen sinks, utility sinks, lawder room sinks, that that would take a while. We know we were told anyway that the drains were searched.
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Speaker 2: How does that happen? Dr Crowns.
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Speaker 3: So they can disassemble the bathroom sinks as you were saying, or the kitchen sinks, pulling out the piping and then they can pull out the drain plugs in the bathtubs or showers and look down in them with flashlights and things of that nature. Usually good investigators can be very efficient and quick at doing these things, so it probably didn't take them a lot of time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know about you, doun to Crowns, but I would like to go to a saine and just sit there and drink it in before I started searching. It would take me a very long time to process a saying, even in my own mind, much less for evidence. But if you say so, Rob Shooter joining us PR Guru to the Stars, author of it started with a whisper on Amazon.
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Speaker 2: Shooter, that's the last thing you need are.
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Speaker 1: To have CSI taking the drains out of your bathtub. That's not a good look. But that said, between the drains being searched, this video being amassed, you still don't think David Burke should say anything, not even I'm so sorry that Celeste has gone on to Heaven.
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Speaker 2: I miss her nothing.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely.
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Speaker 12: Yes, every publicist that works with a star that gets in trouble wants them to sit down and tell their side of the story. However, lawyers really get involved here and say absolutely not. There's always a fight within the celebrity circle between the lawyers and the publicists. I think absolutely there should be a statement, there should be an interview. If you're innocent, you're going to want to tell your side of the story. However, you also to want to make sure anything you say.
00:39:13
Speaker 9: Doesn't get used against.
00:39:15
Speaker 12: You, and so lawyers are going to be telling him not to do anything at the moment. They're going to let the evidence speak, and that's certainly painting a.
00:39:23
Speaker 9: Really, really bad story.
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Speaker 12: And so we also have to remember too, Nancy, friends of mine who owned Tesla's there's some of the most sophisticated cars in the world. They have computers within those cards which tell you precisely where that car has been over the last several months. So it's not just inside the house, it's what's happening in the computer of that car that's going to really tie this case together.
00:39:45
Speaker 2: If that USB is still if the stick is still.
00:39:49
Speaker 1: In the car, it can be taken out, which is a big question to me. The Tesla, the sophistication of their security in the Tesla is amazing.
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Speaker 2: That USB stick can be taken.
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Speaker 1: Out, that records all of that, so many unanswered questions. But I also understand and is this a good look or a bad look? Let me go to doctor John Delatori. The funeral for little Celeste went down, and for all intents and purposes, we have not heard a word that Burke showed up at the funeral. I find that very odd to see had been living with the little girl.
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Speaker 2: I find it odd too.
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Speaker 8: I think there are many.
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Speaker 2: People who would say, well, you can't.
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Speaker 13: Show up for various reasons. But I think ultimately, if you really had right, if David really had her best interests Seles's best interest in his heart, I think he would have shown up. I think it would have taken the opportunity to be in front of the family to say I was really trying to mentor her. I understood that she had all these problems. I really had her best. So I think that there's a lot of other things that are compelling him not to do it, as opposed to just the altruistic aspect, which I don't think actually existed anywhere.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: Also, we're learning tonight, Katie Forrester, we are learning that D FOURVD Burke has hired a high profile defense attorney his name is Blair Burke. He represented Harvey Weinstein, Lindsay Lohan, Kanye West, Meil Gibson, Britney Spears.
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Speaker 2: So that's in the works. A rumor flooded.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: The internet that he had been arrested. There was even a fake mugshot. That's not true. That did not happen. As of right now, David Anthony Burke is presumed innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. This domestigation could go any number of ways. We don't know how Celeste died. We know that she was dismembered, but how does she die? That is the key to this case and to you, doctor Kimball Crowns. Will we ever know how she died?
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Speaker 15: Well, it depends if the toxicology comes back and as negative for drugs. They may have findings that they found an autopsy that they're not wanting to disclose yet because there's still.
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Speaker 3: An ongoing investigation. It probably wasn't something obvious like a gunshot wound to the head or a stab wound to the chest. Maybe something more subtle like a strangulation that they couldn't fully interpret just from the decompositional findings. But they're waiting on seeing what the toxicology show. I'm sure they have something that they probably have in mind, but they're just waiting until they have all the results back before they pull the trigger.
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Speaker 1: Brandy Keisser, high profile defense attorney. Out of it Atlanta Jurisdiction. You have worked with Blair Burke before? What's her deal?
00:42:52
Speaker 2: Thanks? I love that much.
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Speaker 8: She is the go to person.
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Speaker 10: She is discree she's private, and she is who you want to get and you just hope she has time for you when you call her. She will handle this case. And I think that's why you're not hearing anything from the he's not a suspect, he's not a person of interest, but from the person that we are sort of.
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Speaker 8: Talking about that maybe we'll be accused. So far, so good.
00:43:16
Speaker 10: Why say anything in snatch defeat from the jaws of victory right now, there's been no charges, no arrest.
00:43:22
Speaker 8: She's going to keep it that way.
00:43:23
Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
00:43:28
Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.
00:43:30
Speaker 1: The investigation into the death of little girl Celeste is ongoing. If you know or think you know anything about what happened to Celeste.
00:43:43
Speaker 2: Please dial two one three, four.
00:43:46
Speaker 1: Eight, six, six eight nine zero repeat two one three, four, eight, six, six.
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Speaker 2: Eight nine zero.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: We remember American Hero Sergeant Leonard Davis, York CITYPD, killed in the line of duty after twenty one years, leaving behind a distraught and devastated brother, Anthony. American Hero Sergeant Leonard Davis. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a private investigator drops a bombshell in a new probe and teen girl Celeste her body, her decomposing body found in the Singer D four VD aka David Anthony Burks tesla.
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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Celeste is found dead in the trunk of his tesla.
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Speaker 2: Her body was an advanced state of decomposer. Who would have a motive to kill her?
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Speaker 3: It's obviously a homicide.
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Speaker 1: A private investigator says that after amassing ring, doorbell cam and other camp from all around the neighborhood, he knows who and when D for VD aka David.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Burks tesla was moved. Do I care about the tesla?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: Do I care who put the tesla there or moved it?
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Speaker 1: Yes, because I believe that person had knowledge the Celeste body, a little girl, was decomposing in the truck. If he knows that, certainly the LAPD knows that.
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Speaker 5: Listen Lauden Travunevik, the owner of the home Burke was renting for twenty thousand dollars a month, has hired a private investigator, Steve Fisher to try and find out what was happening in the home he owns. Fisher was hired shortly after a forced search entry search warrant was served at the home. Nobody was home when police served a search warrant.
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Speaker 6: The LAPD says Celeste had been deceased for weeks before being discovered in Burke's tesla. Private investigator Steve Fisher says he has seen surveillance video from neighbor homes and knows exactly when the tesla was last moved and who moved it to the location from where it was towed in very late.
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Speaker 1: July, and the only way to amass that information. To gather it is from the cams in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 5: Listen surveillance cameras in the Hollywood Hills built a complete timeline showing when Burg's tesla was parked on Bluebird Avenue, who parked it, and whether anything was placed in the vehicle after it was parked. There's also no evidence indicating Celest's body was transferred into the tesla after it was parked on the street.
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Speaker 1: And we were learning so much more. For instance, apparently the tesla on the street was the one that David Anthony Burke aka Burt d FOURVD used mostly but then another tesla was in his garage and the tesla on the street looked like it had been out in the elements. Joining me in All Star panel, but first joining us tonight the private investigator that says he knows who moved the car and went joining me right now. Private investigator Steve Fisher. He's been on the case from the very very beginning, missing person's private investigator, search and rescue specialist and owner of Search Investigations.
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Speaker 2: He is the one hired by.
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Speaker 1: The Hollywood Hills property renter, the leaser where the four VD David Burke was living. Stave Fisher. First of all, how did you get hired on the case? How did that go down?
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Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 7: I was originally looking into the case because I had another missing person's case and we thought that they that might be the female, and then once she was identified, we knew it wasn't. But I had accumulated some information and I had put out there publicly and the owner got in touch with me.
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Speaker 8: You know about that, And that's how I do evolved.
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Speaker 1: Okay, the owner of the house or the manager who who got in touch with you? The guy that owns the house, the actual.
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Speaker 7: Owner of the house city him and his wife.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you claim, Steve Fisher, that you know when the car, David Anthony Burg's car was part there. That's important to me because I believe her body, Celest's body, the little girl's body was already in the vehicle when it was parked.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I agree with you.
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Speaker 9: I think it was too It was.
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you it was July twenty ninth, and it was midday, the mid morning, or I should say, And I do know. You know who was that moved it right now it's saying who that is. But I'll tell you it's not far the area they moved it.
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Speaker 1: Put him up, Steve Fisher. Have you heard the phrase word salad. It's like all the words jumbled up together. You might might have an onion or a tomato. I don't know what you just said. Okay, I know who hired You've gotten that far with you. Listen. I'm a JD, not a DDS. But you give me a set of pliers and I think I could pull your twoth.
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Speaker 2: You've told me who hired you, You told me.
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Speaker 1: Why you were hired. You're on another missing person's case. You amassed information from that neighborhood. You put it out there. Somebody saw that and hired you on this case. All right, you're not hired by D four VD aka David. You're not hired by the guy that leased the house. I got that far with you. Let's back it up to right there.
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Speaker 2: Repeat.
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Speaker 1: You claim that you have amassed cam camera video camera evidence from the neighborhood, and that having looked at that, you've placed you've pieced together a timeline, and you know when Burke's tesla with a dead body in it, I think was first part in the neighborhood, when the first part in the neighborhood, it moved to that.
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Speaker 7: Last spot on July twenty ninth at about eleven something in the morning, and I'll tell you it was in the same shape that we saw it in those toe photos where it was completely dirty and trashed. I could tell that they had run the windshield wiper once just so they could see out of it, and they had rolled the window down to move it even though they're moving about a block and a half. But it was in that condition still, so it had not been used in a long time. They had clearly been just moving it around different areas of the neighborhood too.
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Speaker 1: Randy Kissler, veteran trial lawyer joining us at the Atlanta Jurisdiction Emery Law, Professor, Foreign Chair of the ABA American Bar Association Family Law Section, and author of Divorce, Protect Yourself, Your Kids, your future. Randy, have you ever had to have a witness, and it can be your witness declared a hostile witness on the stand? I hate doing that. I don't mind doing it to the sides witness. I do that all the time, But with my own witness, if I can't get an answer out of them, you ask the judge, Judge, I'd like the witness to be declared a hostile witness. What does that mean? I can then cross examine my own witness. Have you ever done that with your own witness?
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Speaker 8: You mean like you're just doing Steve Fisher. Absolutely, it's sort of fun, exactly. You know, when you're.
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Speaker 10: Direct examined and you're limited, you can only ask open ended questions, why did this happen?
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Speaker 8: What happened?
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Speaker 10: But on cross if you can treat your own witness, the one that you know what they're going to say, as hostile It's.
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Speaker 8: Wonderful because then you can say isn't it true?
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Speaker 10: Excellent, and then we get to testify in essence, right, you get to testify and say didn't this happen?
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Speaker 8: Didn't it go like this, isn't this what happened? Because you know the fact.
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Speaker 2: You want to was a yes no answer. Kessler.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate all that, but have you ever had your own witness declared as a hostile witness?
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Speaker 8: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Amazing, Okay, you do that when the witness is refusing to answer your questions. You think you knew what they were going to do when they get on the stand in this surprise, guys.
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Speaker 2: They don't.
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Speaker 1: Okay that in mind, back to private investigator Steve Fisher, I did manage to get some information out of you that I didn't know that being July twenty nine, eleven, am Burke's tesla was moved to its last location.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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Speaker 8: Correct?
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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you know where it was parked before that?
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Speaker 11: That?
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Speaker 7: I don't know because from the house that was taken from is a little bit down the hill, but on the same street that the.
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Speaker 8: Rental house is on.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me the tesla that hill. Celeste decomposing body is on the same was ultimately left on the same street where he was living.
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Speaker 7: It looked like he was coming from the rental house. He can't say for sure, but there's only a few houses on that street because that's like an off street, and it would came down that road and was turning onto where you'd go up the Bluebird there where it was left.
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Speaker 1: Okay, are you telling me, I'm having to interpret everything you're saying, Steve.
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Speaker 2: Are you you're.
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Speaker 1: Talking private investigator talk? Are you telling me on a video you can see the tesla coming from the direction of his house.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, So how the road is curved, and so the house that captured that is kind of at the base of the curve, so you can't see you see it coming down the road, you can't see exactly where it started, and you can't see the driveway of the rental house.
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Speaker 2: It stops right before that the cam rangle does wow. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Reminder D four V D aka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. Crime stories with Nancy Grace joining me right now, p R Guru to celebrities like DFOURVD, David Anthony Burke Rob Shooter joining us, host of Not Even Nice podcast, author of an upcoming novel. It started with a whisper excellent title and you can find it Robshooter dot substack dot com. Okay, Shooter, I'm going to go into this in depth later, but other celebrities have actually gone on social media and said, Wow, I want Burke dfourvd's downloads. In this case, a dead body in your trunk can really hurt your reputation. So what do you make of how dfour VD David Anthony Burke is going to get out of the fact.
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Speaker 2: That Fisher just dropped like a bomb. He's got video.
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Speaker 1: Of the tesla coming around the curve from the direction of Burke's house, his mansion.
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Speaker 2: And it's got the body in it. He's watched the video.
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Speaker 1: He never sees the body or anything else being put in or taken out of the car. Hence the body was already in the car and it's coming from Burke's house. What are you going to do with that, pr guru, Yeah, Nancy, anything you can do it on the front of Vogue.
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Speaker 12: The only thing you can do in these situations, if you were innocent, is tell the truth.
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Speaker 9: Lawyers hate that. Lawyers hate it when publicists get involved.
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Speaker 12: But here they're not just fighting, but they're legal, their legal future, but also their professional their their reputation, and so we would encourage them, if they were innocent, to tell their side of the story, to get that out now. So it's very very tricky here. You have to sit with your client, You have to have a really serious conversation, and they have to basically tell you are they innocent?
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Speaker 9: Are they guilty?
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Speaker 12: And if they are innocent, then he's got an amazing story to tell everything here.
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Speaker 9: Look, it's really bad for him.
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Speaker 12: However, if this is awesome, terrible, crazy misunderstanding, this is an amazing story, and so if he can tell that, then he'll be okay. But once again, he has to be innocent.
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Speaker 1: I had to hear your hol spiel before I jumped in some quote terrible misunderstanding, Control room. Can you show me a photo of this little girl, Celeste. Okay, she's dead and dismembering and decomposing in his trunk and you just call that a terrible misunderstanding.
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Speaker 9: What I call the.
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Speaker 12: Terrible misunderstanding is him being blamed for this. That's what is the terrible misunderstanding here. If indeed he is innocent, this young girl who is dead, who is decomposing in the back of a fancy tesla, that is not a terrible misunderstanding. That is an absolute disgrace, and we've got to get to the bottom of it. But we haven't got there yet, Nancy. And so maybe, just maybe there's a chance that he didn't do it, and if he didn't, he should tell us everything right now.
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Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter, you can really hurt your crotch when you're riding the fence that way. Okay, just be careful of that. Katie Forrest are joining me right now. Assist of Exclusives editor us son Let's follow up on Shooter's terrible misunderstanding comment a rapid fire Katie, A thank you for being with us tonight. And B did D four fey d David Anthony Burke ever report his tesla missing?
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Speaker 11: That is the main thing that I found very interesting, and also not just the tesla book. You know, if he was in a relationship with Celesti and he hadn't heard from her in months weeks, you know, obviously she was a team runaway, but he never reported that either. I think It is very interesting. You know, if you if you were this close to this girl, whether she was a friend with she was a partner, you think that he would be shouting from the rooftops, you know, where is she?
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Speaker 2: And also yes, lay the car as well.
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Speaker 1: Did you did hear me say lightning round right?
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Speaker 2: Right? Okay?
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Speaker 12: Yes?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 2: Did he ever report his tesla missing? Absolutely not? Okay did he ever report Celeste missing? Absolutely not?
00:14:30
Speaker 1: So you know, back to you shooter, certainly she's gone and he doesn't report her missing or his tesla missing.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: How do you again, fluff.
00:14:39
Speaker 1: That up and make it all glossy for the front in touch the inquirer?
00:14:44
Speaker 2: What how do you pick the hasard?
00:14:47
Speaker 9: She has a history of running away.
00:14:48
Speaker 12: This is somebody who left many many relationships, many many lives, and so this is a troubled person. And that is not not blaming the victim here, Nancy, at all. But this somebody who has a history of making erratic decisions. That's how it is going to be presented. It's going to be presented like he was her mentor that he was looking out for her and one day he got up and she disappeared, and as upset as he was about that.
00:15:15
Speaker 9: He didn't.
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Speaker 12: He didn't think this was that unusual. It's a very tricky argument. I'm not saying it's going to work, but that's what they're going to do.
00:15:23
Speaker 9: That's how they're going to position it.
00:15:25
Speaker 1: And that is why all the stars hire Rob Sheoter as their PR guru. Okay, bang to Steve Fisher. Fisher, then't forget about you. Steve Fisher is a very high profile private investigator who is investigating another missing person's case and somehow landed in the middle of the Celeste investigation.
00:15:49
Speaker 2: So so far I've gotten out of you tonight.
00:15:51
Speaker 1: That the tesla, ultimately with selest body in it, was moved to the last locations July twenty nine eleven am in a trash condition like it had been out in the elements, driving through the desert or mudbuggin.
00:16:06
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, as an horrible condition, same condition that you see in the photos.
00:16:12
Speaker 1: You also told me that you saw video of the car coming around the curve from the direction of Burke's mansion and parking.
00:16:25
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
00:16:26
Speaker 8: That's correct?
00:16:26
Speaker 2: What day did you see that?
00:16:29
Speaker 8: It was on? July twenty nineties.
00:16:31
Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, did you see any cam video, camera video of any nature that showed the Tesla part in that area prior to July twenty nine.
00:16:44
Speaker 7: I have seen the images that I obtained from the Deferment Transportation on the day it was ticketed and toad which was September fifth, and then I have seen a video that shows it in May of twenty twenty five, very clean, but actually parked on that Bluebird Street that one was ultimately towed from, but it was clean.
00:17:07
Speaker 8: At that time.
00:17:08
Speaker 2: Could you give me those dates again?
00:17:10
Speaker 1: Place the dates that you observe the car part on that street go ahead.
00:17:16
Speaker 7: First time I've seen it part was May of twenty twenty five. There's a video of it parked on Bluebird, which is the same street that it.
00:17:25
Speaker 9: Was ultimately towed from.
00:17:27
Speaker 8: And then the other imagery I.
00:17:29
Speaker 7: Have is from the Defermative Transportation. I'm sure those images you're showing now that I obtained when they took when they towed it, just a document.
00:17:38
Speaker 8: The towing.
00:17:40
Speaker 7: And then I do have one from earlier in January where the car is parked in front of the rental house. It shows that it's very clean but does have that rear damage already, the larger dent in the back of the car.
00:17:55
Speaker 2: Okay, got it?
00:17:56
Speaker 1: So you're saying May twenty twenty five is the earliest you can place the car on the street in that neighborhood. But to U Katie Forrester, when do we believe when did Celeste drop off the map? When was the last time she was actually seen by someone?
00:18:11
Speaker 2: So it's actually quite hard to tell.
00:18:12
Speaker 11: But she went missing a year prior and then as far as I know because I spoke to family, she did come back two or three times. But we think that she was missing from her family home for at least six months before she was found dead. So yeah, quite a long time.
00:18:29
Speaker 1: Dave mac, We have shown over and over the photo of celestis little teen girl age thirteen at a concert in the friend and family area.
00:18:40
Speaker 2: If we could pull up that.
00:18:41
Speaker 1: Video please, as I recall that was August the fourth, Is that correct?
00:18:48
Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, get on, that was in August Maryland.
00:18:52
Speaker 1: This from at clips of David on TikTok. How can somebody put a then thirteen year old little girl in a truck and leave the car there for weeks on end, Celest's body was found in a black tube top and ripped jeans. You could smell the trunk as you approached the tesla. Her body found in a black tube top and ripped jeans, the same out that she has on August the fourth at the D four VD David Burke concert. So I'm trying to narrow down the timeline, Fisher, That's what I'm doing here.
00:19:29
Speaker 2: Now.
00:19:29
Speaker 1: I'd like to understand you saw a person emerge from the tesla. I assume that was July twenty nine at eleven am. You saw a person get out of the tesla.
00:19:44
Speaker 7: No, I didn't get out of So they drove by in you know where they drove by the camera and the test I could tell who it was, but then they're too far out of range, you know, when they hit the parking spot, so I can identify the person from when they drove within four or five feet of the cam.
00:20:01
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's even much better.
00:20:03
Speaker 1: So you're telling me it's not the person getting in or out of the tesla.
00:20:07
Speaker 2: They drive by a camp and.
00:20:09
Speaker 1: That's July twenty nine, correct, correct? And you get a face shot? Is that correct?
00:20:17
Speaker 9: A face shot?
00:20:18
Speaker 7: And because the tesla is so you know, has some way windows of the upper body and they're wearing something very distinctive reminder.
00:20:26
Speaker 1: D four VD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. So let me ask you this, Steve Fisher, are you familiar with all of the people that work with and for Burke?
00:20:40
Speaker 2: You know what they look like?
00:20:43
Speaker 7: I do, now, I didn't you know at that time, but the main players I certainly become very familiar with. There's a lot of photos of them. We came into a lot of media of them that was left at the house.
00:20:55
Speaker 2: Steve Fisher, why won't you divulge who was driving the tesla ostensibly with celest body in the trunk.
00:21:05
Speaker 7: I'll tell you I would like to, I'll be honest with you, but by a statue, I cannot unless I have my client's permission. That's just something a regulation that I'm bound by. And right now they want to give Laped a little bit more time. If it was up to me, I would I would put it out there because it's been seven weeks and I don't understand why, at least the concealment charge it can't be dropped by the time and you can always stack charges on top of that.
00:21:35
Speaker 8: So I don't agree with that. I would put it out if it was up to me.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: You mentioned you got a clear picture of the driver's face. Was the window rolled down?
00:21:44
Speaker 7: It was rolled down, and they were only going a block and a half. It was seventy seven degrees and the car, if it was parked in front of the rental house, it was in the shade. So I don't understand why they'd have the window down like that.
00:21:57
Speaker 1: And obviously to doctor Kendall Crown's joining as Chief Medical Examiner Trett County, the host of a new podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue. He is an estamed lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, Doctor Kendall Crowns, by that point, with a decomposing body in the car in the trunk the front, the tesla has a trunk in the front, I think.
00:22:19
Speaker 2: I know why they roll down the window, Doctor Crown.
00:22:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's going to be March decomposition. The body is in the trunk or the frunk or whatever you call the thing, from sometime in July to all the way in December. So there's going to be green discoloration, bloating of the body, purging of fluids or fluids coming out of the mouth and other orifices. It's going to be attracting insects. I'm sure that Fronk isn't completely fealed, and that's going to create even more decompositions. So there's going to be a lot of a lot of odors emitting from that vehicle.
00:22:58
Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe, Randy Kessler, a veteran defense attorney, that whoever was driving that Tesla that Fisher won't divulge, could not smell the overwhelming odor of decomposition, and yet they just left the car there.
00:23:17
Speaker 10: I agree, but they could also say, you know, it's California, it's beautiful, how or put the windows down. There's their alternate explanations, which defense lawyers who.
00:23:25
Speaker 8: Of course use.
00:23:28
Speaker 1: Here you're seeing a demonstration by Scott Iiker he did for us with his daughter, who is about the same height and weight of Celeste. Yet the person who dropped the car off, Steve Fisher, clearly able to smell the decomposition, a little Celeste in the trunk, just left the car there, But yet you won't divulge who it was.
00:23:55
Speaker 7: I think, greeting very close, I'm hoping they want to give you my client wants to give Laped a little bit more time, and I have to go by that.
00:24:03
Speaker 9: It was up to I've listened.
00:24:04
Speaker 7: I'm very much a personal rapper information out there and try to get people to get nervous and make statements and stuff. So if it was up to me, it would be out there. It's just not my decision one hundred percent, you know, But I.
00:24:16
Speaker 2: Well, Steve, let me ask you another question.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: I understand you're not telling me, fine, Steve, have Celeste family called you or has D four VD David Burke called you and said, who parked.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: The car with her body in it? Who have they called? And asked?
00:24:37
Speaker 8: No, nobody has.
00:24:37
Speaker 7: And I'm kind of surprised me that I would love to talk to your Sliss family about this, and even the person that I listened, I've gotten zero calls from anybody on David's side or last side.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: Randy Kessler joining US defense attorney out of Atlanta, Randy Casser, wouldn't he call Steve Fish and go, you got that video? Who was driving my car with the US body in it?
00:25:01
Speaker 2: Tell me? Don't you think he would want to know?
00:25:05
Speaker 10: I think it's exact opposite of what Rob Shooter told you, which is, you know, tell your innocence, try to figure it out if you're innocent.
00:25:12
Speaker 8: Lawyers are telling him, don't do anything.
00:25:14
Speaker 10: Make them prove their case, whatever the situation is, even if you care about this girl and you.
00:25:17
Speaker 1: Love her and you dorm make sure what case what make the laped prove what case?
00:25:24
Speaker 8: The potential case.
00:25:25
Speaker 10: Is they're going to prove or they're going to indict, or they're going to charge, or they're going to arrest David, or they're going to try to make it seem that he's anything this entertainer says, or anything anyone on his behalf says is going to be used against him.
00:25:37
Speaker 8: Right now.
00:25:38
Speaker 10: He's in a world of trouble, reputation wise, maybe freedom wise. I think he's doing what he's supposed to do, which is just not say.
00:25:46
Speaker 1: Casseler if I love very misleading.
00:25:54
Speaker 10: Oh how many times have you heard the lawyer say, I don't care how innocent you are, you don't say a word because saying something might make it worse than it is right now, Right now, they don't have enough to prosecute me.
00:26:04
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about, Okay, I'm talking about this. He didn't have to do it. He could have his lawyer do it. That's not going to come into evidence. You cannot put Fisher up on the stand and say what did the lawyer say to you?
00:26:20
Speaker 2: That's your say and there's no exception.
00:26:23
Speaker 8: I don't want any more when I have a.
00:26:25
Speaker 2: Lawyer call and say, hey, who was driving his car?
00:26:28
Speaker 10: Because it creates a conversation, It creates in you into, it creates implications, it creates.
00:26:32
Speaker 2: Tonation, I love Mary, did you play football?
00:26:36
Speaker 1: Because he absolutely can have his lawyer call and say who was driving my car?
00:26:41
Speaker 9: Why that would not come.
00:26:42
Speaker 1: Into evans unless David said it himself.
00:26:46
Speaker 10: Why why even start the conversation? Why not wait until they're going to come out and they're going.
00:26:50
Speaker 2: To sell you this much.
00:26:51
Speaker 1: If my husband was decomposing in somebody's trunk, I would be jumping on their chest until I found out who drove the car.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: There knows.
00:27:04
Speaker 8: But if you're under suspicion and.
00:27:05
Speaker 1: Possibly guarantee you I'm not going to kill him, well, nobody's going to tell me you're talking crazy. Don't have a strength. Doctor Delatory with me. Doctor John Delatory, Psychologists, mediator specializing in forensic psychology.
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Doctor delatory.
00:27:25
Speaker 1: Did you just hear everything that Rob Shooter and Randy Kessler said, all the big misunderstanding, the little problem of the dead girl decomposing and dismembered.
00:27:39
Speaker 2: I'd like to add in a bag, a trash bag, and a trunk.
00:27:44
Speaker 1: Shooter call that a little misunderstanding that Bert should explain away since he's obviously innocent. And you heard Kesser say, why should he call an inquire about who may have done this?
00:28:00
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think those are the perspectives of professionals who are trained to act in a certain arena based on the court of public opinion or the court of law. But no one is talking about celest She was thirteen years old. I don't like this idea that she's declared a teen runaway. There's clearly something going on with her. She's thirteen years old when all of this stuff is happening. She could have been convinced that all of this was her decisions. But no one is talking about what was going on in that house. Why was she there? Why weren't any of David's friends saying, Hey, this girl's way too young, we need to put her back with her parents.
00:28:36
Speaker 8: And now she was.
00:28:37
Speaker 13: Left tot to literally to rot. That's what she was left to do, because that's how little all of these people thought about her.
00:28:45
Speaker 14: The Tesla owned by Burke had been his daily driver for a long time, regularly getting the car cleaned inside and out. However, when the Tesla was towed, it was dirty with body damage. PI Fisher says it looked like the car had been off road in the desert, without wheel wells, beat up and a huge den in the back. While his former daily drive sits dirty by the curb for weeks, Berger.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Keeps a clean red Tesla in the garage.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Reminder, D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
00:29:12
Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: There is a dead body in there one hundred and fifty feet away.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: From his house. This is a car containing his girlfriends.
00:29:24
Speaker 1: Allegedly dead, dismembered body.
00:29:27
Speaker 5: Bloody remains are found in a vehicle register in two years. Yet you continue on this world tour.
00:29:36
Speaker 3: Like nothing was found in your car.
00:29:40
Speaker 1: And speaking of the world tour, that David Anthony Burke aka D four VD, David embarked upun to Steve Fisher, the private investigator who has amassed home security surveillance ring camera you name it, and has identified the last time the tesla was moved with celest body in it, we believe was July twenty nine around eleven am. He also clearly saw the face of the driver, which he is not divulging. Let me ask you about the timeline.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: Steve Fisher.
00:30:18
Speaker 1: How long was the tesla parked on the street for the last time before Burke left for his tour.
00:30:29
Speaker 7: From the time he was moved to the last spot, which is on Bluebird, So on July ninth, when I saw those like eleven in the morning. Later that evening they begin the tour and they actually leave that evening for San Francisco for the first show.
00:30:44
Speaker 1: So apparently, Steve Fisher in that neighborhood. When you leave pretty nice neighborhood, the mansions are worth millions of dollars. When you leave a filthy, disgusting car or any car parked on the street in front of one of those houses, that homeowner gets very irritated to have a nasty car or a junk car sitting in front of their lot right their multimillion dollar mansion.
00:31:09
Speaker 2: So you can't leave a car.
00:31:12
Speaker 1: Abandoned for very long. We're it's going to get towed. Would do you agree with that?
00:31:16
Speaker 9: Yeah?
00:31:16
Speaker 7: And I talked to the person who actually called it in, and that's exactly why. It's not so much how long it was left there as the condition it was left in, and they felt it was abandoned because of the body damage and it was accumulating turk. It's the car had been cleaned, I probably would not have been called in, but they felt that it was. It was abandoned and that's when they called Department transportation.
00:31:36
Speaker 1: So what do you make of that, Randy Kessler, that the very night that Burke is leaving on a world tour, they just have to move that car one last time, to just put off for maybe a day, two days, three days before it gets reported in front of somebody's yard and gets towed just one last time before he leaves on til a.
00:32:00
Speaker 10: Little bit of circumstantial evidence, and you are not going to get a conviction based on that, but it helps the prosecution a little tiny bit.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: Okay, So you may agree that it is circumstantial evidence of the state could use.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: That's what the takeaway from what you just said.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, everything is not circumstantial evidence, But.
00:32:22
Speaker 2: I got what I wanted.
00:32:23
Speaker 1: I want to move forward with that thought, the fact of the coincidence that he loves for tour that night, and the car is moved one last time, pushing forward the eventual towing straight back out to especially Guess joining us Katie Forrester with exclusives, editor.
00:32:45
Speaker 2: At the US Sun Jumping Katie.
00:32:48
Speaker 11: Well, I think it's interesting that you can't drag a body down the streets. So I mean, we are waiting for the cause of death, and that's going to be the main thing. I think that it's going to switch this investigation. She strangled was accidental, you know. I think things that can really shift when not comes.
00:33:05
Speaker 2: Down see Fisher.
00:33:06
Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe that in a home with this home that costs us much and has outdoor cameras, that there were not interior cameras like nanny cams.
00:33:17
Speaker 2: Did you see any The.
00:33:19
Speaker 7: House has a really sophisticated security system, including cameras inside, but the owner left it up to the person at least the house of what they enable or not. And I know that laped has taken the cameras and the the DVR system, but on the smoke detectors of the house they were covered, so I don't know if they had also covered the cameras, and LAPD is not informing us what may or may not be on cameras or if they were even enabled.
00:33:44
Speaker 1: D FOURVD aka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
00:34:00
Speaker 1: You know another issue that has just happened, straight back out to rob Shooter PR guru upcoming novel. It started with a whisper on Amazon, host of naughty but Nice podcasts, and you can find him at robshooter dot substack dot com. Shooter in the Last Days D four VD David aka David Anthony Burke has had all of the bloody shirt merchandise pulled. You can't get it anymore. You remember when Kanye I'm afraid to say.
00:34:36
Speaker 2: His name, it may conjure him up.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: Had shirts with swastikas on them.
00:34:43
Speaker 2: Remember that PR nightmare?
00:34:46
Speaker 9: I do remember it?
00:34:47
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
00:34:49
Speaker 1: And now this what took them so who is helping this guy?
00:34:54
Speaker 2: For Pete's sake? What took them so long to pull the bloody shirts?
00:34:58
Speaker 1: Now there's a rumor online not true, that he had mixed celess blood in the paint to make those shirts.
00:35:07
Speaker 4: That's ghoulish, not true. Go ahead, Yeah, it's awful. This should have been removed immediately. But we have to remember here, he is not a superstar. This is somebody who's pretty early on in their career. They probably don't have the very best people around them yet. I've worked with a lot of celebrities and when they start out in their careers, they don't.
00:35:28
Speaker 9: Have the people, the top notch people on.
00:35:31
Speaker 12: Their teams yet, primarily because they can't afford them, they don't have access to them. So his career was still in the beginning phrases here, So whoever's advising him probably isn't that experience that this should have been removed immediately. It wasn't. Eventually they fix that. I think ultimately they did the right thing, but it took.
00:35:49
Speaker 9: Them way too long.
00:35:51
Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. This little girl, just thirteen years old, she goes missing. She had been living with this grown man.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: She's been gone over a year with him, and now she's dead. With us an All Star panel, and now.
00:36:11
Speaker 1: We are learning that there were farm implements found in Burke's mansion that were left there were not seized by police. Things that you wouldn't normally expect to find in someone's home.
00:36:30
Speaker 2: What are they? We don't know yet.
00:36:33
Speaker 1: Joining me as I said an all start panel, Doctor Kendall Crowns.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: We also understand, is this.
00:36:39
Speaker 1: Right, Katie Forrester, that the drains were searched in the home. That's the bathtub drains, the sink drains for blood evidence.
00:36:47
Speaker 11: Yes, and there were photographs of them leaving the house with the computer with other bits of evidence. But I think it was only on one day. It seemed very swift, so I don't know whether they managed to get a law.
00:36:59
Speaker 1: You know, Doctor Kendall, I would have thought that that type of investigation would take a lot longer when you are breaking down these sinks and the drains and bathtubs, bathroom sinks, kitchen sinks, utility sinks, lawder room sinks, that that would take a while. We know we were told anyway that the drains were searched.
00:37:17
Speaker 2: How does that happen? Dr Crowns.
00:37:21
Speaker 3: So they can disassemble the bathroom sinks as you were saying, or the kitchen sinks, pulling out the piping and then they can pull out the drain plugs in the bathtubs or showers and look down in them with flashlights and things of that nature. Usually good investigators can be very efficient and quick at doing these things, so it probably didn't take them a lot of time.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know about you, doun to Crowns, but I would like to go to a saine and just sit there and drink it in before I started searching. It would take me a very long time to process a saying, even in my own mind, much less for evidence. But if you say so, Rob Shooter joining us PR Guru to the Stars, author of it started with a whisper on Amazon.
00:38:13
Speaker 2: Shooter, that's the last thing you need are.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: To have CSI taking the drains out of your bathtub. That's not a good look. But that said, between the drains being searched, this video being amassed, you still don't think David Burke should say anything, not even I'm so sorry that Celeste has gone on to Heaven.
00:38:43
Speaker 2: I miss her nothing.
00:38:45
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
00:38:46
Speaker 12: Yes, every publicist that works with a star that gets in trouble wants them to sit down and tell their side of the story. However, lawyers really get involved here and say absolutely not. There's always a fight within the celebrity circle between the lawyers and the publicists. I think absolutely there should be a statement, there should be an interview. If you're innocent, you're going to want to tell your side of the story. However, you also to want to make sure anything you say.
00:39:13
Speaker 9: Doesn't get used against.
00:39:15
Speaker 12: You, and so lawyers are going to be telling him not to do anything at the moment. They're going to let the evidence speak, and that's certainly painting a.
00:39:23
Speaker 9: Really, really bad story.
00:39:24
Speaker 12: And so we also have to remember too, Nancy, friends of mine who owned Tesla's there's some of the most sophisticated cars in the world. They have computers within those cards which tell you precisely where that car has been over the last several months. So it's not just inside the house, it's what's happening in the computer of that car that's going to really tie this case together.
00:39:45
Speaker 2: If that USB is still if the stick is still.
00:39:49
Speaker 1: In the car, it can be taken out, which is a big question to me. The Tesla, the sophistication of their security in the Tesla is amazing.
00:40:00
Speaker 2: That USB stick can be taken.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: Out, that records all of that, so many unanswered questions. But I also understand and is this a good look or a bad look? Let me go to doctor John Delatori. The funeral for little Celeste went down, and for all intents and purposes, we have not heard a word that Burke showed up at the funeral. I find that very odd to see had been living with the little girl.
00:40:32
Speaker 2: I find it odd too.
00:40:33
Speaker 8: I think there are many.
00:40:34
Speaker 2: People who would say, well, you can't.
00:40:36
Speaker 13: Show up for various reasons. But I think ultimately, if you really had right, if David really had her best interests Seles's best interest in his heart, I think he would have shown up. I think it would have taken the opportunity to be in front of the family to say I was really trying to mentor her. I understood that she had all these problems. I really had her best. So I think that there's a lot of other things that are compelling him not to do it, as opposed to just the altruistic aspect, which I don't think actually existed anywhere.
00:41:10
Speaker 3: Well.
00:41:11
Speaker 1: Also, we're learning tonight, Katie Forrester, we are learning that D FOURVD Burke has hired a high profile defense attorney his name is Blair Burke. He represented Harvey Weinstein, Lindsay Lohan, Kanye West, Meil Gibson, Britney Spears.
00:41:27
Speaker 2: So that's in the works. A rumor flooded.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: The internet that he had been arrested. There was even a fake mugshot. That's not true. That did not happen. As of right now, David Anthony Burke is presumed innocent. He hasn't been charged with anything. This domestigation could go any number of ways. We don't know how Celeste died. We know that she was dismembered, but how does she die? That is the key to this case and to you, doctor Kimball Crowns. Will we ever know how she died?
00:42:05
Speaker 15: Well, it depends if the toxicology comes back and as negative for drugs. They may have findings that they found an autopsy that they're not wanting to disclose yet because there's still.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: An ongoing investigation. It probably wasn't something obvious like a gunshot wound to the head or a stab wound to the chest. Maybe something more subtle like a strangulation that they couldn't fully interpret just from the decompositional findings. But they're waiting on seeing what the toxicology show. I'm sure they have something that they probably have in mind, but they're just waiting until they have all the results back before they pull the trigger.
00:42:44
Speaker 1: Brandy Keisser, high profile defense attorney. Out of it Atlanta Jurisdiction. You have worked with Blair Burke before? What's her deal?
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Speaker 2: Thanks? I love that much.
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Speaker 8: She is the go to person.
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Speaker 10: She is discree she's private, and she is who you want to get and you just hope she has time for you when you call her. She will handle this case. And I think that's why you're not hearing anything from the he's not a suspect, he's not a person of interest, but from the person that we are sort of.
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Speaker 8: Talking about that maybe we'll be accused. So far, so good.
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Speaker 10: Why say anything in snatch defeat from the jaws of victory right now, there's been no charges, no arrest.
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Speaker 8: She's going to keep it that way.
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Speaker 1: Reminder D four vdaka David Anthony Burke is innocent.
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Speaker 2: He hasn't been charged with anything.
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Speaker 1: The investigation into the death of little girl Celeste is ongoing. If you know or think you know anything about what happened to Celeste.
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Speaker 2: Please dial two one three, four.
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Speaker 1: Eight, six, six eight nine zero repeat two one three, four, eight, six, six.
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Speaker 2: Eight nine zero.
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Speaker 1: We remember American Hero Sergeant Leonard Davis, York CITYPD, killed in the line of duty after twenty one years, leaving behind a distraught and devastated brother, Anthony. American Hero Sergeant Leonard Davis. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,
