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Speaker 1: US space scientists either dead or missing.
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Speaker 2: It's fishy, harassment, harassment, threat threat, it's suspicious.
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Speaker 3: She didn't take no fee.
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Speaker 1: There's no bullet.
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Speaker 4: If there were a staged suicide, then why be so sloppy about it?
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Speaker 1: It's bis.
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Speaker 5: When things happen once, it's an anomaly. When things happen twice, you could chalk it up as a coincidence. But when it happens three times, now you have a trend.
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Speaker 1: Bombshell Tonight in the case of dead and missing US scientists with top clearances across the board Tonight, the body count seventeen joining US Tonight Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt. Dave Matt, what more can you tell.
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Speaker 6: Us, Nancy?
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Speaker 7: As we have taken a look at this story a number of times times, there are three names that are kind of bubbling to the surface right now, retired General Neil mccaslan, Anthony Chavez, and Melissa Cassias. In the case of General Neil mccaslan, retired general, this is a man who controlled two point two billion dollars in government funding for research he spent and by the way, research in propulsion technology. This is a man who spent the largest part of his career at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, where the UFO community knows has been the subject of a lot of questions about our government's research into extraterrestrial.
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Speaker 6: Technology, if it exists.
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Speaker 7: But more than that, Neil McCaslin, the guy is sixty six years old. And as we were all beginning to cover the Nancy Guthrie story in February, you know, we were three and a half weeks into that story, every day looking what was happening in Arizona, and General Neil McCaslin went missing on February twenty seventh.
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Speaker 6: For a brief moment, people were.
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Speaker 7: Like, wait a minute, what's going on with these senior citizens? They just seemed to disappear. The Neil McCaslin story was coming well. The information we got came from his wife. Pretty Much everything we know about his recent health, his demeanor, his idea and lie, everything comes from his wife.
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Speaker 6: I'm not challenging her, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: I'm just pointing out that it's Neil mccaslyn's wife that said he had kind of a brain fog going on, and he left home without his phone and without other things he would normally have and just went walking away. She was gone from the house for an hour, and when she got back she couldn't find him anywhere and reported him missing. Well, Nancy, I've been in that area of Albuquerque, New Mexico, where General Neil mccastlean went missing. It's tough terrain. It's rugged terrain at the base of the Sandia Mountains. My brother and I when we were kids, we did a lot of hiking up in that area. It's not an area you go without knowing where you're going because the terrain is difficult. But if Neil McCasland was to walk away within the hour that his wife was gone, and a search began right away to find a sixty six year old man on foot walking in the area where she suggested he went, they'd have found him. They would have found him right away. Can't get that far away in an hour in that terrain. Just saying this is manu a two point two billion dollars in government funding that he was in charge of and hand it out for research into alternative propulsion that NASA and other organizations in our government have been working on.
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Speaker 6: He's one of those people. Again.
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Speaker 7: Retired US Air Force General Neil McCasland. But check this out TAUS New Mexico coming into play, we have Anthony Chavez. Now, Anthony Chavez worked at Los Alamos and it is said that he.
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Speaker 6: Anthony Chavez was a retired HVAC guy.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if you've got problems with your heating and air conditioning and your central heating air he'd be the guy to call, right, But he has ties to Los Alamos, and I'm want to make sure I get this right. He was working on a research project with quantum physics with an unnamed scientist. An HVAC guy working on a quantum physics research project with another scientist, and by the way, he just goes missing. He was trying to sell his sisters home that he had inherited, and he was going to sell the home and use it for his sister's living and he did have a real estate agent that was really pushing him hard to sell it for below market value, for below what it was listed for. But other than that, Anthony Chavez, a retired HVAC guy working on a quantum physics project with another scientist, disappeared. Now we have covered Melissa Cassias, and that's why I mentioned Taus. A minute ago, Melissa Cassia's body was found, well, her remains, her skeletal remains are found remembered leaning up against a tree gunn nearby. Yeah, there's a lot wrong with this story. The story was that Melissa Cassius had gone to drop her husband off at work, she forgot her key card, had to go back home to get it. She took her daughter a subway sandwich for lunch, and that Melissa decided to just work from home. But then she was later after she disappeared, leaving behind her phones and keys by Her phones were left behind and they'd been reset to factory and then she just vanishes right in the thin air. There was a picture of walking down a highway. But that was pretty much it with Melissica Seas. But you know what, here's the time now I mentioned Anthony Chavez retired HVAC guide doing quantum physics work with another scientist. Well, Anthony Chavez is that former employee of Los Alamos in Latin National Laboratory until his retirement in twenty seventeen. He vanishes seven weeks, seven weeks before a key assistant.
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Speaker 6: Ad that same lab vanished.
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Speaker 7: Who was that key card holder, Melissa is Seas So we got Neil mccaslan, Anthony Chavez, Melissa is Seas all gone. We did find skeletal remains of Melissica se Us leaning against a tree. But Nancy, there's just three of the latest that we're looking at. With the missing and dead scientists.
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Speaker 1: How does a young scientist, without telling family or friends, decide he's going on a trip, get into his tesla without his wallet or iPhone like so many of the other missing or dead scientists, leaving home on foot, leaving behind all id wallets, cell phones, tracking devices, any sort of identification that links them to the military or to their research. This young scientist, Joshua le Blank leaves home and suddenly crashes into a guardrail and both he and his vehicle are totally incinerated. Stephanie Herlow joining us co host Crime Weekly podcast. Stephanie, thank you for being with us tonight. What happened to Joshua Leblank? First of all, tell me about him? What was he studying? Let me guess anti gravity, jet propulsion?
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Speaker 8: What yes, jet propulsion? He lived and worked in Huntsville, Alabama, which is kind of the epicenter of a lot of these missing people, including doctor Ning Lee who was missing for a while but ended up being killed, and also Amy Eskridge. The University of Huntsville is very very focused on NASA jet propulsion anti gravity research. That the epicenter of where all that stuff is happening. But he did work with some pretty high security clearance.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Kendall Crowns, joining US chief Medical Examiner at Terrance County, that's Fort Worth, Texas. Doctor Crowns, why three days to identify his body? I mean they knew it was his tesla number one, the family reported him missing. Why did it take three days to figure out it's him?
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Speaker 9: Well, actually three days is a little surprising to me because I would think it would take even longer if a body's burned beyond recognition, meaning that the facial skin has been burned away all the way to the bone. You have to do techniques to figure out who they are, and one of them is dental records, so they have a presumptive ID. They kind of know who he is. They get his dental records and do a comparison. Three days is to me an actually quick turnaround time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, doctor Kendall Crowns, I know, I'm waiting into dangerous territory here arguing with the chief medical examiner in the metropolitan area. But how hard is it to get dental records? The family says, that's his car, he's missing dental records. That should take a couple of hours.
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Speaker 9: Well it isn't a couple hours. You have to call the dentists, they have to get the records, they have to bring them to the medical examiner's office. So you're looking at least a day or two.
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Speaker 1: WHOA, You do know about email, right, You don't have to get in your on your horse and buggy and go over to the medical examiners. You hit one button and send it. Okay, so that takes five minutes. But what you're saying regarding bringing in a dent a forensic dental specialist, that suddenly makes sense to me. Out to special guests joining us Frank Milburn, former British intelligence officer who knew another dead scientist very well, Amy Eskridge, who said, point blank, if I am found dead, I did not and would never commit suicide. Frank, I'd like you to listen to her voice, to her tapes that you have provided to us.
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Speaker 2: Listen, we discovered what was up when we got back, and the car battery was drained, the peppersary was emptied.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 2: They just had a colonel walk out of the airport behind me. He didn't have any luggage. I don't think he even blew that day.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 2: My car failed to start, and then he offered to jump it for me. Right, So the colonel jumped in a car and then I went along my Merry Way, totally traumatized, but also totally okay. Right, I have not traveled by air and I also have not left the city by car either ever since then.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at Daily Mail to Frank Milbourne, what is she talking about?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she was talking about an incident that happened when she came back from out of town. When she came back to her airport near Huntsville. And this is something that was referring for her. She would go out of town, fly out, she'd come back, her vehicle had been tampered with. Even when she didn't fly, her vehicle would be tampered. So her vehicle would be in an airport car parking lot where presu with there's cameras and there surveyor people moving in and out. So you'd have presumably you'd have some record of it. But her car was being tampered with, the whether it was products inside the car, items inside the car, or sometimes a door would just be left open a jar so that the battery would run down, so that when she came back she had she had a problem. But this was recurring, and it happened not only to her at airports, but also at other locations and also including at home. And there's a video where she's very worried she found footsteps outside her house. There's another one where she's talking about her car being her mother's car be being battery drank.
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Speaker 1: Also allegations that her home computer had been hacked. Listen.
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Speaker 11: So I maybe just sent a message to Tim on LinkedIn and informed him that if I see one more illegally leaked document of photos that were taken from my laptop bag from my home by your business partner, I'm going to call the FBI. You've been informed that your partner has committed interstate felonies because he took pictures in Alabama, he transported them across state lines to New Jersey, and he posted them online from New Jersey. That's an interstate villiny considering the India, It's an act of corporate espionage because he founded a competing company right after that. It's an act of international espionage.
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Speaker 2: Because he has a dual citizens dual citizenship status.
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Speaker 11: It's an act of breach of presidential executive presidential privilege because the document is you know, addressed to Trump on the very first page. And are you aware that your business partner left a very messy, very messy trail of evidence about these multiple villinies. It's extremely extremely easy to prove in court.
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Speaker 1: Frank, what is she talking about? Do you believe her computer had been hacked?
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Speaker 4: That happened to her a lot, and she was regularly, for example, when she's attacked with directed energy weapon, which all documented, she was working on air gap computer precisely because she didn't want to be connected to the internet. Her team and her were constantly having to clean reinstall their phones, their computers precisely because of this hacking. But in that particular case here that the person that she names in the clip that you played previously, he's been gaslighting me and her since before she died. She knew I've got emails going back to you know, sorry, I've got documents going back to twenty twenty one saying that she was being a target of industrial blesphonage by him and his partner. These people have been trying to gaslight her before and after her death and trying to portray her as crazy. Is not competent, but this is what be thoroughly investigated by the FBI. I know these people. They're trying to gaslight me too, so you know, this is actually disgusting behavior. Talking very very badly about a deceased, dead lady. You can't defend herself, but that's why I'm here to defend her.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned being harassed, harassed, and also you mentioned a directed power hit on her body from which she allegedly sustained multiple bruises, and showed them two people this.
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Speaker 4: Wasn't alleged, It's all documented. And I actually showed you know, the images of her to a doctor friend of Miya and she said, yeah, there's are consistent you know, with with with the directed energy microwave weapons. Havana syndrome is mostly acoustic, but these were the directed energy microwave weapons that literally, you know, fry your body, fry your central nervous system, fry your spine give you all kinds of gas and tests.
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Speaker 1: And promise I want you to listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Have been typing on the second offline computer right here, super consensitive for the past several days, with this window right here to my right and that window door right there to my left, and I've been my hands have been murned to helen back as I've been typing, because you can beat me through there and through or through there, and you can get a three D image of what I'm typing. Because this computer doesn't have a Wi Fi card, you can't hack it, but you can maybe get a three D image of me typing. So like we just did that, and did that as an act of as an act of pure desperation, and guess what, I feel better immediately. I feel better immediately. Like my hand's still burn because there's damage. My hand's still burn because there's damage, but but it's like my body relaxed when we barricaded and it was like, oh, like relief, like immediately because they're hit me through the I'm sitting here typing on this thing. Like directed energy weapons are about harming and harassing people, but they're also sometimes surveillance mechanisms where you can.
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Speaker 11: You can't hack the computer.
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Speaker 12: Because there's no Wi Fi card, but you can send microwaves in to get a three D image of me typing on the keyboard, and you can reconstruct what I'm typing microwaving me.
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Speaker 2: Even though you can't hack it.
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Speaker 11: There's no why Badguard.
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Speaker 2: That's the type of Shenanigan's going on right now. That's the reality of like directed energy tools and weapons like that's kind of what's going on.
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Speaker 1: We just showed a photo of Eskridge's red hands. What is that?
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Speaker 4: That was when she was working literally on that project for Homeland security and she was I think about six stories up, but they got hit with a directed energy weapon and she got burnt on her hands, not on her face. I believe it was on her hands. So something directed specifically at her hands. And there's another scientist that actually sent you the videos. There's another scientist with her in the background, and you can hear him say it's a directed energy weapon, a microwave directed energy weapon. So there's two witnesses there, two scientists who are expert witnesses and able to describe exactly what is happening to them.
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Speaker 1: I'm scared.
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Speaker 6: Tired.
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Speaker 2: I'm real tired. I need to disclose soon, man, I need to pull them soon because it's like escalating. It's getting more and more aggressive, like over the past this has been going on for like I don't know, four or five years, and over the past twelve twelve months it has been like escalating, escalating, like more aggressive, more invasive.
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Speaker 1: Much happening out of the New Mexico jurisdiction, New Mexico in California. Listen to these connections and how the people went missing. Monica Jacinto Risa worked at the AFRL Air Force Research Lab. General Mchason oversaw actually ran coming deared the AFRL, including the funding, specifically Resa's project. She got her funding from AFRL and she was specializing in jet propulsion. She is on a hike in the La National Forest. She's with a friend, a female friend, who's just ahead of her. The friend looks back, she waves and smiles. A few minutes later, she looks back. Monica's gone gone. An intense digital search and more was conducted nothing in the space of ten minutes. She's gone. You know, let me go to you, Lauren Colin, you have done a really deep dive on Monica Jasin Theresa and your article in La magazine was eye opening, and I'm sure that took you hundreds and hundreds of hours of research to put that one article together. Remind us about how Monica just disappears off a trail.
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Speaker 13: Of course, Monica's disappearance is very chilling because she was with two people from her yoga group and reportedly she was descending from a mountain with her her male companion, only she was behind him about thirty feet. They were both running again, this is a steep terrain. No one can understand why they were running. The male companion turned around, he waved to her.
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Speaker 3: A minute later, she.
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Speaker 13: Was gone, vanished into thin air, and that red beanie was found on a more dangerous path leading off of the mountain. This is Mount Waterman, and her scent stopped at that beanie. Nancy very strange. I have spoken to close family members who are desperate to find their you know, their sister, their mother, their cousin. Monica is a widow. They wanted everyone to know that she was not working for any type of foreign government, any foreign intelligence. She was studying yoga with a specialty in vedic sciences, and she had done this for about thirty years, and she was working for NASA JPL at the time. One last thing I want to say about Monica Nancy is the fact that she had an iPhone eight, which meant that her cell phone was not going to ping anywhere unless she was at a proper place in the mountain for it to work. If she would have had an iPhone twelve, it could have pinged. But this is one of the most baffling things ever. Again because she was with two people, two companions, and they both seemed to have a very specific story. And as far as I know, Nancy, no one else can put Monica on the mountain that day except for these two people.
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Speaker 1: Lauren Colin. Isn't it true that Monica Hyacintha Reisa got her funding from a FRL Air Force research lab and she worked closely with and her funding was approved by William Neil McCasland, who walked away from his home with none of his ID, without his phone, without anything on him to identify who he was except an Air Force sweatshirt which was found discarded about two miles away. McCaslin oversaw Monica jusin Theresa's projects and okay, the funding for her, isn't that true?
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Speaker 13: They did overlap, and I you know, I've reached out to these places like right Patterson, the Air Force Research Lab, and I think I mentioned this to you. It's very difficult to get confirmation of what people did exactly and and the years that they worked there.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 13: So I'm going off of LinkedIn for these two in general. But yes, Monica Resa, you know she copatented these high strength metal alloys, burn resistant alloys, and General McCaslin was at the very top. So this to me like they are the center of all of this.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk to you first. I want to play you trying to get answers out of DC that chance, listen to this.
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Speaker 13: Everybody nothing Red Bertett, nothing on the missing scientist, General McCaslin.
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Speaker 3: Sh Maybia you figured it out.
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Speaker 6: Of course there's something going on.
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Speaker 3: Yes, fourteen rabbis fourteen prayfer fourteen US car salesman disappeared.
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Speaker 6: You'd be asking.
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Speaker 14: Less you.
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Speaker 1: What was that about the rabbi, the preacher and the used cars.
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Speaker 6: You know what.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to knock around in his head, no offense. I want to talk about the facts as we know. Then Can we talk about McCaslin, By the way, that's from Lauren Colin for on TikTok and here she is in the flesh. Can we talk about McCasland, because he kicked the whole thing off. I mean, his credentials are incredible. First of all, who is McCasland, Lauren.
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Speaker 13: Well, he is pretty much more credentialed, I would say than any president we've had in about two decades. But he oversaw eighty percent of the Pentagon's Black Ops project. He was a retired Air Force general. He was stationed at Right Patters obviously the Air Force Research Lab, and Nancy. I had a very successful Boyer request fulfilled last week where I was given by the Bernalio Sheriff's office the last known photo of General McCaslin the day before he went missing. And I was in shock because I am thinking, why am I the one putting this out? Why didn't law enforcement or the FBI put this out? And not only that in the police report. In one of the police reports anyway, they indicate that the FBI did in fact join the investigation on March third, So I've reached out to them as well. But I will say. Parsing through this and going through all of the bodycam footage, all of the interviews, you learn a lot about General mccaslin's last few months and it is very heartbreaking. There are certain things that don't add up. But also I do want to point out that friends said that starting in January he was himself. He was actually in the process of looking for a doctor to diagnose whatever he thought that he had listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Has he been diagnosed with any mental photos or anything like that.
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Speaker 10: Well, we've been seeing the doc for both physical and mental in terms of anxiety, short term memory loss, lack of sleep. The same doc I went to see today very very active physically and has always had a very sharp mind.
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Speaker 5: Retired Major General from.
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Speaker 10: PhD from MiB Well, and he's been feeling brainfaught today. He had taken a drug that the doctor prescribed last night that was supposed to have his sleep with weight gain. He's lost about twenty pounds for no reason and with anxiety.
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Speaker 8: I was shocked this morning when I saw the alert because what I noticed Thursday evening is he wasn't his usual self. He was kind of spacey and quiet.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at daily mail to Dave mac Crime Stories investigative reporter who has been on the missing scientists and lab workers from the beginning that McCaslin had multiple senior Pentagon roles. He oversaw nuclear research at Los Alamo's National Lab who just walked away with no identification on him to me, had connections to so many of the others, Dave.
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Speaker 7: Mac wine Lynch pen for the money attached to all the research. Nancy, you got to remember McCaslin was the Air Force Research Laboratory head at Right Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. This is a position that he stayed until he retired, and he was dealing with billions, not millions, but billions of dollars in advanced material sciences and future weapons research across the nation and all of our centers that we were investigating. So all the research that was being done, all the funding that came for that research went through mccaslin's hands. That's why he was aware of everybody that was moving around. And he's there in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which is where Kirtland Air Force Base is. That's where he retired after leaving Right Patterson and Ohio. Well, what do we know about these areas. They are huge in the UFO research that has been done, and McCaslin is connected to all of these things.
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Speaker 1: Joining us tonight and All Star panwell. But first I want to go to John Nance, former supervisory special Agent with the FBI assigned to the Miami and DC field offs is over twenty years. Mister Nance, thank you for being with us tonight. I know you're not a medical examiner, but I'm very fatigued with claims that all of these top security clearance scientists and lab workers all just walk out of their home with no ID, no cell phone. Melissa Casius's cell phone had been factory wiped when her daughter found her cell phone, that they all just walk out and suddenly have an urge to commit suicide. Melissa Cassius gun found near her body. She was completely skeletonized by the time her body has been found. Family says she was not acting unusually in any way. The family says, that's not her gun, that's not our gun. Where did that gun come from? And most disturbing, mister Nance, there's no bullet at that scene anyway. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist part of my pun to figure out something is way off with this story.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, none of this makes any sense, the theories surrounding, you know, while these people are committing suicide, it just doesn't. It just doesn't hold investigative water. There are a lot of unanswered questions, especially in Cassis's case. In fact, her husband said that part of her story was that she was going to return home to get her ID badge, when in fact he saw her with the ID badge in the vehicle, So that makes no sense. And of course, as you've already mentioned, the cell phones, the smartphones being reset to factory settings, all these things indicate that she didn't necessarily intend to take her life, but that she could have been in fear for her safety in some form or fashion and maybe was attempting to escape. I mean, that's that's a possibility.
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Speaker 1: I want to see the last known image of Melissa Cassillas. There she is, Hey, where are all those things she's got to backpack with her?
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Speaker 10: What?
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Speaker 1: Where is all that? Because we haven't heard word one about any of that being found by or around her body. And also no animal activity. She's been missing a long time and her body, her skeleton is sitting up undisturbed, pristine leaning against a tree. That defies everything I know about a crime scene where a body is found skeletonized. It would have fallen apart. By now, Lauren Conlin, what more can you tell us about the discovery of Causius's body? What do you know?
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Speaker 13: Well, I've been in touch with the new Mexico State Police and they have been very responsive to me. It is the PIO, the Press Information officer, and she has indicated she is going back and forth with investigators to see if they can disclose what they have. Because I submitted a Foyer request for the autopsy report and I was denied actually two days ago, and not because you know they couldn't give it to me or wouldn't give it to me, It's because they don't have it completed yet, Nancy. So I, like you, I am waiting for the facts. All we know officially right now is that there was not an initial projectile in this skull, as you mentioned. And this photo of Melissa and her daughter, it breaks my heart, Nancy. All of everything you've said, the fact that Melissa took medication with her, her toothbrush with her, that really tells me that she wasn't planning on taking her own life. So I I just want answers. I I feel for her family to this.
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Speaker 3: We cannot vcate my wife. We haven't heard from her all day from work with this oil. Was the last time I saw work. She my daughter saw her around one o'clock. All her stuff was here in the house. But she's not here. And it's just not like her to not call to check in and and take her purse and her phone. And it looks like her phone has been my goters. It looks like it's been reset. But there, you know. So we left all around the house, everywhere on our property. We cannot find her or nothing, and uh, I don't know what to do. The carl who was in a purcha at the house. The keys are here, The house.
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Speaker 7: Was long.
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Speaker 3: Very everything was was here, you know what I mean. So she she went from the father, she came home. Well car was here parked in the yard. The keys are on the kitchen cable.
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Speaker 10: What's her name?
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Speaker 3: I'm alystics And we called the hospital sy because I mean, you know, no one, there's no one in there, uh, you know at all like that, because we thought, well maybe if something happened to her her personal everything, curious of no one will be able to identify her. And as you said, she took with her phone, she didn't take nothing seeing her phone and everything's here, and she always takes her stuff with her. My daughter was trying to attract her location and they always track each other, but her. But her phone's wipe. The thing is what we get. And she would never have wiped all the pictures off and all the information off of her.
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Speaker 6: Pope that is.
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Speaker 1: Moliska se is his husband's nine on one call that we have just obtained. Joining me now. Glenn Anne Johnson Glen Anne is a former weapons engineer. Let that sink in just for a moment. At the US Department of Defense. She worked in Huntsville. Why do we keep hearing Huntsville? That is where a NASA installation exists, and there is also a very you know to us lay people mysterious lab there as well. She worked at Kirkland Air Force Base and in Mexico where Mchason worked. She worked at the Naval Service War Center. She has worked on multiple high tech military weapons, including dee W lasers nukes for the Navy and Air Force. Glenn Anne, are you tired of hearing about highly highly influential US scientists and lab workers just walking away and committing suicide like it is said Amy Eskridge did after she told Milburn, if I end up dead, I did not commit suicide.
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Speaker 8: Know that.
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Speaker 1: Now, Cassius.
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Speaker 16: So I don't believe any of them committed suicide, and I I think we're actually I think the reason that the reporter got crickets in DC is because there's a full investigation ongoing where I think we're kind of at an old fashioned Moscow rules, and in the old days it was an unwritten rule that if you kill one of our people, we kill one of yours, you know, United States in Russia. I think this is ongoing with scientists right now. I think they're being maybe kidnapped and then interrogated and then murdered. And I think they're making some of them look like suicide so that it's more deniable and it won't have a full investigation. But there's so many of them at this point that it's occurred to that it doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Melissica see US's injuries could have been caused see I'm going with a good old fashioned bullet or blunt object, because I understand that. But with your knowledge, Glenn Ann, do you believe she could have succumbed to a dew directed energy weapon.
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Speaker 16: It's possible. I think she was probably. I think she was hit with directed energy weapons to get her to leave her family to protect them. And I think that she was probably interrogated, which may have involved some kinetic attacks to her skull and what have you. But I think that she was lured away from her home by the directed energy weapons.
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Speaker 1: Many people believe that several of the seventeen missing or dead are connected to McCaslin also missing. Let me understand, Lauren Conlin, the connection between Melissa Cassius, an administrator at la n L Los Alamo's Nuclear Lab, and afr L. That's the Air Force Research Lab. That's Melissa, okay, who took with her two very odd items that torpede the working theory as to how she died. Now both Cassius and Chavez, we're at AFRL Air Force Research Lab. Okay, Now wait for it. McCaslin, General will William Neil McCaslin oversaw the funding, all the funding at AFRL. He also oversaw Monica Jacinto USA, who also disappeared, also Stephen Garcia built parts for nuclear weapons connected to AFRL Air Force Research Lab. That's how they're all connected. And the connections, they're like tentacles that go to all of these missing and dead scientists. Now they want me to believe that Melissa Cassius shot herself. What like Amy Eskridge. Let me see that picture one more time of her walking along the bridge. This is the last known photo of Melissa Cassias, the last, the final image of her alive. It's from a surveillance camera in You're State Road five one eight in New Mexico. This is three miles from her home. That's something to ponder as well. Typically in self inflicted mortal wounds, the person doesn't go for a hike. First tonight, what happened to scientist Aiden Schaeffer? As yet another scientist has been looped into this last name will Cox straight out to special Guests joining us Georgia Bradburn joining us from the UK, host of Liminality, who has broken the latest on a deceased scientist, Aiden Schaeffer. You can find her on YouTube Interliminality. Georgia, thank you for being with us. Aiden Schaeffer. What did he study?
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Speaker 14: So Aidan was looking into alternative propulsion. He was involved in space ports in college. He was studying multiple aspects of ways to get humans into space, and he is believed to have been working on anti gravity towards the end of his life. Unfortunately, but what he was doing towards the end, unfortunately, we do not know. It's unclear what it was he was working on.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just curious when you say propulsion, Georgia, are you referring to jet propulsion.
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Speaker 14: I believe it was field effect propulsion that Aidan was looking into. He wanted to find any sort of alternative that would get humans into space. He was aiming to do that by some sort of clean energy alternative. From what I can gather, he was very much involved in an alternative to jet engines. He wanted us to get there, and he was in in space elevators as well. He was doing that for five years. So his research and development was all got geared towards humans in space and looking for alternative ways to get us.
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Speaker 1: Aiden Schaefer born raised New Mexico, New Mexico, popping up again fascinated with science space technology in a field known as field effect propulsion, listen. That's him, that's Aiden Schaeffer's speaking about his fear based on certain incidents that had occurred that his phone was, for lack of a better word, tapped. That is from vlog of the Dead. It's on YouTube. And now I want you to hear something that Chris Schwecker told us, so it.
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Speaker 17: Would not be out of the realm of possibility that China or Russia or some other hostile foreign intelligence service would kidnap one of our scientists and try to extract information out of them or turn them into a double agent. General public tends to be a little bit unaware of the prolific efforts to steal our sensitive technologies from A to Z. Thereafter it day in and day out, and thereafter the people that are working on it. It's a comprehensive, ongoing effort on the part of hostile foreign intelligence services to steal our technology. I think we're going to see this list grow and it's going to play out in the public eye because of great interest to the public.
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Speaker 1: That is our guest tonight, our friend Chris Swecker, Forming FI Assistant director speaking to Fox Nation. But let's hear it from the horse's mouth. You know, Chris, so often when we hear someone say I think somebody's listening on my phone, you immediately think they're crazy. Right, this guy, Aiden Schaeffer, we just saw him speaking. He's not crazy. He thought someone was listening to his phone or gathering information from his phone. And at your level at the FBI, that is not uncommon.
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Speaker 18: You can't overstate how aggressive and proactive, especially China is in trying to gather up and steal our technology. And it isn't just technology in the hands of our defense establishment, if you will, it's any technology that's helpful to them that will help them compete, you know, in the world marketplace, in in you know, in military, in you know, research and development, because they don't do their own research and development. They reverse engineer every just about everything. They don't have the you know, the initiatives and the freedom that we have here to do that, you know, research and technology. So there after it every day he sounded, you know, I agree with you. You sound a little paranoid. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And in this case that may well have been true, because China, especially Russia's at it too, but they're a little more clumsy and they're easier to detect. China is at it all day, every day through cyber means, trying to compromise. Scientists go to trade shows, introduce born exchange students. They're at it all the time. And you know it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me at all. And this is an alternative theory that one or more of these scientists had been turned. And now you're in. You're in it and you can never get out of it. The only way you can get out of it is to take your own life.
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Speaker 1: Chris, I want you and everyone else on our guest Pedel tonight. I've been watching the videos of Aiden Schaeffer over and over and over. I'm just a lay person to detect what I can. I've looked at every word. I just want you to see and hear him speaking. Listen. I just wanted you to see that. And there's so much more that's from the vlog of the dead that is Aiden Shaef for speaking, and there's a lot of it and he's not just based on that, but everything I've learned. He's brilliant. Joining me now is lou Elisondo former US Army counter intelligence special agent, former employee Office Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, former director of Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and UFO whistleblower. Wow. Uh, mister Alizondo, I want to thank you for being with us tonight. Also very curious about Matthew Sullivan aka Quake. Is it true or do you know whether an autopsy was ever ever performed on Sullivan and what was said to be his cause of death?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So rather than share what I don't know, let me share you with you what I do know. He was an Air Force intelligence officer. He was a colleague of one of my colleagues at the time, Dave Groosch. Dave Grush and I had worked at US Space Force together, and Sullivan wanted to come forward and have a conversation with certain members of Congress about the Air Force's involvement in the UFO program, and he was slated within I think twenty four hours. He had gone to Washington, d C. And was in a hotel from my understanding, and was going to have a conversation with some members of Congress. Any skiff a skiff is a sensitive compartment and information facility, so it's kind of like a think of a secret vault where you can have conversations at the classified level. And the day before he was supposed to have a conversation, or two days before, he wound up being found dead, I knew. What I do know is that there was a wild for the medical Examiner even released a report. It kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed. I don't know the reason why it was delayed, but I do know that members of Congress were very concerned the fact that this individual was supposed to testify and wound up dead. And by the way, this wasn't the only one. There was another individual whose name I won't mention because it hasn't been made public yet, but he was an individual, an engineer, who was allegedly tied to the exploitation of recovered UFO material. He was he was talking to one of my colleagues, and he was going to go talk to Congress about his knowledge about legacy US government legacy UFO efforts. And within I think a week or so before he was supposed to go to Washington, d C. He wound up dying. And the cause of death I don't know, but one of my colleagues was following it very closely and was concerned enough to tell me, hey, look, you know people are starting to disappear. You may want to be very careful. So there does seem to be a very interesting You can call it a coincidence. But in my line of work as a former intelligence officer, you know, when things happened once, it's an anomaly. When things happened twice, you could chalk it up as a coincidence. But when it happens three times, now you have a trend.
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Speaker 1: That said, I'm going to be remiss if I did not mention physicist, brilliant physicist, doctor Ning Lee. She had been awarded four hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the DoD and she disappeared briefly. Then she was mowed down in a crosswalk. Nobody else went out in the crosswalk, but she was suddenly thrust into the crosswalk. She got mowed down. Her husband immediately had a heart attack and later died. She was brain dad and then later died. To Stephanie joining us COO's Crime Weekly podcast, what can you tell me about her? I know she's Chinese American, and I know that she was brilliant and I know nobody but her ended up in that crosswalk when she got mowed down.
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Speaker 8: Doctor Ningley worked at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and she was doing anti gravity work and research there. She then left the university after a significant amount of time there and she started her own business, and then the government came calling and they gave her that grant to work on continued anti gravity research. Because this is Huntsville, they do that stuff there as well as advanced propulsion research. And then she started working with the government, and at that point she kind of went dark, and there was a big thing online for a while because people thought she disappeared. She was off the map for quite a bit, and there was a journalist who was trying to find her to talk to her about her research, and he couldn't find her, and he reached out to another anti gravity researcher, Eugene Polannach, and Eugene said, oh, she's working for the government. She just can't talk to anybody about what she's doing right now. But Eugene also said, I haven't been able to reach her either. And it was several years later when this same journalist finally tracked down doctor Ningley's son, and the son said she had been a hit. She had been in a terrible car accident which had left her with permanent brain damage. She developed dementia, and then he took care of her for several years until she finally passed away from this. But she was never the same obviously, she never went back to work.
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Stephanie, is that doctor Lee has been compared to Amelia Earhart. She is the Amelia Earhart of physics, the scientists that many people say quote discovered anti gravity. That's the significance of who is doctor ning Lee. She was brilliant. Now I'm hearing that a female space scientist died after a boulder fell on her car. What's the odds of that happening? Straight out to Lauren Conlin, joining US investigative reporter with the Los Angeles LA Magazine, star of Pop Crime TV co host. You can find her at Pop Crime TV. Lauren, why did I have to find that buried amongst all sorts of outlandish theories regarding these missing scientists and dead scientists? Is any of that true? Who is Ingrid Lane? And is it true she has disappeared? But her car's down with a boulder attack.
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Speaker 13: Yes, so, as far as we know, Nancy, she is still alive. She is just missing Ingrid Lane. She was a beautiful musician. She played the violin. But she was also a neuroscientist and a bioengineer affiliated with the Mind Research Network at the University of New Mexico. Now this place, the Mind Research Network, it had ties to Los Alamos and San Dia National Laboratories. So that is where this very very striking connection comes in. The way that Ingrid disappeared is so chilling. Nancy she was actually at a retreat that she was supposed to be on a week long retreat at a place called the Body Manda Zen Center. And according to reports and friends and family, she was very familiar with this place. She had been going there, I guess on and off for about ten years. It was about an hour from where she lived in the Albuquerque area. So she's there for one day. The very next day she tells people that she's going for a drive. She's got to go back to Albuquerque. She's got to go back to Los Alamos. She wants to hike over there and she'll be back later. Now this struck a few people as odd because it's like you're going on a zen retreat, but now you want to drive a bunch of hours even though you're supposed to be meditating. Now here's where it gets a little weird. So she's driving along State Route one point forty four near the San Antonio Mountain and the vayas Calledra National Preserve. She is going up and up and up to the top of this mountain. Now two people find her because she is having car trouble and they ask her, you know, do you need some help, and she says, you know, I'm fine, I will fix my car. They said, she seemed very determined to get to the top of this mountain. So, according to these two people, they walk along and she continues. Now, later, as you mentioned, her car was found after there was an Apple air tag that police tracked when she was reported missing. Now, there was a large boulder that had shattered near the rear hatch window of her Subaru and the front showed reportedly major front and collision damage. We don't really have an explanation about that. But three laptops found inside that car. Nancy, an unactivated burner phone, and her keys were still in the ignition the toll is now.
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Speaker 1: Up to eighteen missing or dead scientists, and I want you to listen to this. You've got Michaslon who just walked away and never seen again, Shaeffer who died in custody on a contested claim. Asinthareisa just seemingly just beamed up out of a heavily wooded area. She's never seen again. Chavez still missing. Cassias now claims she committed suicide, although no cod has been offered. There's no bullet, which means no suicide. Garcia missing, May Wald no cause of death since twenty twenty four. Jason Thomas is found dead in a pond. Michael David Hicks. It was said he died of obesity. Okay, Amy Eskridge, David Wilcock, Joshua le Blank, Matthew Sullivan, Top Clearance, Ning Lee, renowned scientists, walks in front of a car. Ingrid Lane still missing after a boulder attacked her car. But where was her body? Kevin Childress dead on the sofa? Okay, Glenn Anne Johnson, weapons engineer with the US Department of Defense. What do you make of the list I just gave you?
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Speaker 16: Well, it's happening. What happened to them, is happening to a lot of people with top secret clearance that had nothing to do with UFOs and found foreign malicious code and parts in US systems, especially US Air Force systems. And they changed my medical records to say that I had anxiety, mental depression, things that I've never had, and it was from medical records from Vanderbilt, a place I've never been. So they were setting it up to do the same thing to me. It's happening to my friends that owned companies that found code injections from the same locations Huntsville, Alabama and Curtland Air Force Base, New Mexico. So I think that all of these people's connection is that they try to stop terrorism and counter terrorism from occurring. They blew the whistle on something and there are people, bad actors that murdered them for it, and they made it look like a suicide.
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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything regarding the missing and dead scientists and lab workers, please dial eight hundred, Call FBI eight hundred, call FBI two two five five three two four. We remember American hero Captain Christopher Guero, New York State Police died as a result of being a hero in the September eleven attacks, served our country for twenty three years, leaving behind his wife Jillian, and two daughters, Ella and Maggie. American hero Captain Christopher Guero. Thank you to our guest, but especially to you for being with us tonight. Nancy Gray signing off for tonight, but I'll see tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend.
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm
Speaker 1: US space scientists either dead or missing.
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Speaker 2: It's fishy, harassment, harassment, threat threat, it's suspicious.
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Speaker 3: She didn't take no fee.
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Speaker 1: There's no bullet.
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Speaker 4: If there were a staged suicide, then why be so sloppy about it?
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Speaker 1: It's bis.
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Speaker 5: When things happen once, it's an anomaly. When things happen twice, you could chalk it up as a coincidence. But when it happens three times, now you have a trend.
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Speaker 1: Bombshell Tonight in the case of dead and missing US scientists with top clearances across the board Tonight, the body count seventeen joining US Tonight Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt. Dave Matt, what more can you tell.
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Speaker 6: Us, Nancy?
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Speaker 7: As we have taken a look at this story a number of times times, there are three names that are kind of bubbling to the surface right now, retired General Neil mccaslan, Anthony Chavez, and Melissa Cassias. In the case of General Neil mccaslan, retired general, this is a man who controlled two point two billion dollars in government funding for research he spent and by the way, research in propulsion technology. This is a man who spent the largest part of his career at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, where the UFO community knows has been the subject of a lot of questions about our government's research into extraterrestrial.
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Speaker 6: Technology, if it exists.
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Speaker 7: But more than that, Neil McCaslin, the guy is sixty six years old. And as we were all beginning to cover the Nancy Guthrie story in February, you know, we were three and a half weeks into that story, every day looking what was happening in Arizona, and General Neil McCaslin went missing on February twenty seventh.
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Speaker 6: For a brief moment, people were.
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Speaker 7: Like, wait a minute, what's going on with these senior citizens? They just seemed to disappear. The Neil McCaslin story was coming well. The information we got came from his wife. Pretty Much everything we know about his recent health, his demeanor, his idea and lie, everything comes from his wife.
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Speaker 6: I'm not challenging her, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: I'm just pointing out that it's Neil mccaslyn's wife that said he had kind of a brain fog going on, and he left home without his phone and without other things he would normally have and just went walking away. She was gone from the house for an hour, and when she got back she couldn't find him anywhere and reported him missing. Well, Nancy, I've been in that area of Albuquerque, New Mexico, where General Neil mccastlean went missing. It's tough terrain. It's rugged terrain at the base of the Sandia Mountains. My brother and I when we were kids, we did a lot of hiking up in that area. It's not an area you go without knowing where you're going because the terrain is difficult. But if Neil McCasland was to walk away within the hour that his wife was gone, and a search began right away to find a sixty six year old man on foot walking in the area where she suggested he went, they'd have found him. They would have found him right away. Can't get that far away in an hour in that terrain. Just saying this is manu a two point two billion dollars in government funding that he was in charge of and hand it out for research into alternative propulsion that NASA and other organizations in our government have been working on.
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Speaker 6: He's one of those people. Again.
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Speaker 7: Retired US Air Force General Neil McCasland. But check this out TAUS New Mexico coming into play, we have Anthony Chavez. Now, Anthony Chavez worked at Los Alamos and it is said that he.
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Speaker 6: Anthony Chavez was a retired HVAC guy.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if you've got problems with your heating and air conditioning and your central heating air he'd be the guy to call, right, But he has ties to Los Alamos, and I'm want to make sure I get this right. He was working on a research project with quantum physics with an unnamed scientist. An HVAC guy working on a quantum physics research project with another scientist, and by the way, he just goes missing. He was trying to sell his sisters home that he had inherited, and he was going to sell the home and use it for his sister's living and he did have a real estate agent that was really pushing him hard to sell it for below market value, for below what it was listed for. But other than that, Anthony Chavez, a retired HVAC guy working on a quantum physics project with another scientist, disappeared. Now we have covered Melissa Cassias, and that's why I mentioned Taus. A minute ago, Melissa Cassia's body was found, well, her remains, her skeletal remains are found remembered leaning up against a tree gunn nearby. Yeah, there's a lot wrong with this story. The story was that Melissa Cassius had gone to drop her husband off at work, she forgot her key card, had to go back home to get it. She took her daughter a subway sandwich for lunch, and that Melissa decided to just work from home. But then she was later after she disappeared, leaving behind her phones and keys by Her phones were left behind and they'd been reset to factory and then she just vanishes right in the thin air. There was a picture of walking down a highway. But that was pretty much it with Melissica Seas. But you know what, here's the time now I mentioned Anthony Chavez retired HVAC guide doing quantum physics work with another scientist. Well, Anthony Chavez is that former employee of Los Alamos in Latin National Laboratory until his retirement in twenty seventeen. He vanishes seven weeks, seven weeks before a key assistant.
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Speaker 6: Ad that same lab vanished.
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Speaker 7: Who was that key card holder, Melissa is Seas So we got Neil mccaslan, Anthony Chavez, Melissa is Seas all gone. We did find skeletal remains of Melissica se Us leaning against a tree. But Nancy, there's just three of the latest that we're looking at. With the missing and dead scientists.
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Speaker 1: How does a young scientist, without telling family or friends, decide he's going on a trip, get into his tesla without his wallet or iPhone like so many of the other missing or dead scientists, leaving home on foot, leaving behind all id wallets, cell phones, tracking devices, any sort of identification that links them to the military or to their research. This young scientist, Joshua le Blank leaves home and suddenly crashes into a guardrail and both he and his vehicle are totally incinerated. Stephanie Herlow joining us co host Crime Weekly podcast. Stephanie, thank you for being with us tonight. What happened to Joshua Leblank? First of all, tell me about him? What was he studying? Let me guess anti gravity, jet propulsion?
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Speaker 8: What yes, jet propulsion? He lived and worked in Huntsville, Alabama, which is kind of the epicenter of a lot of these missing people, including doctor Ning Lee who was missing for a while but ended up being killed, and also Amy Eskridge. The University of Huntsville is very very focused on NASA jet propulsion anti gravity research. That the epicenter of where all that stuff is happening. But he did work with some pretty high security clearance.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Kendall Crowns, joining US chief Medical Examiner at Terrance County, that's Fort Worth, Texas. Doctor Crowns, why three days to identify his body? I mean they knew it was his tesla number one, the family reported him missing. Why did it take three days to figure out it's him?
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Speaker 9: Well, actually three days is a little surprising to me because I would think it would take even longer if a body's burned beyond recognition, meaning that the facial skin has been burned away all the way to the bone. You have to do techniques to figure out who they are, and one of them is dental records, so they have a presumptive ID. They kind of know who he is. They get his dental records and do a comparison. Three days is to me an actually quick turnaround time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, doctor Kendall Crowns, I know, I'm waiting into dangerous territory here arguing with the chief medical examiner in the metropolitan area. But how hard is it to get dental records? The family says, that's his car, he's missing dental records. That should take a couple of hours.
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Speaker 9: Well it isn't a couple hours. You have to call the dentists, they have to get the records, they have to bring them to the medical examiner's office. So you're looking at least a day or two.
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Speaker 1: WHOA, You do know about email, right, You don't have to get in your on your horse and buggy and go over to the medical examiners. You hit one button and send it. Okay, so that takes five minutes. But what you're saying regarding bringing in a dent a forensic dental specialist, that suddenly makes sense to me. Out to special guests joining us Frank Milburn, former British intelligence officer who knew another dead scientist very well, Amy Eskridge, who said, point blank, if I am found dead, I did not and would never commit suicide. Frank, I'd like you to listen to her voice, to her tapes that you have provided to us.
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Speaker 2: Listen, we discovered what was up when we got back, and the car battery was drained, the peppersary was emptied.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 2: They just had a colonel walk out of the airport behind me. He didn't have any luggage. I don't think he even blew that day.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 2: My car failed to start, and then he offered to jump it for me. Right, So the colonel jumped in a car and then I went along my Merry Way, totally traumatized, but also totally okay. Right, I have not traveled by air and I also have not left the city by car either ever since then.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at Daily Mail to Frank Milbourne, what is she talking about?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she was talking about an incident that happened when she came back from out of town. When she came back to her airport near Huntsville. And this is something that was referring for her. She would go out of town, fly out, she'd come back, her vehicle had been tampered with. Even when she didn't fly, her vehicle would be tampered. So her vehicle would be in an airport car parking lot where presu with there's cameras and there surveyor people moving in and out. So you'd have presumably you'd have some record of it. But her car was being tampered with, the whether it was products inside the car, items inside the car, or sometimes a door would just be left open a jar so that the battery would run down, so that when she came back she had she had a problem. But this was recurring, and it happened not only to her at airports, but also at other locations and also including at home. And there's a video where she's very worried she found footsteps outside her house. There's another one where she's talking about her car being her mother's car be being battery drank.
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Speaker 1: Also allegations that her home computer had been hacked. Listen.
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Speaker 11: So I maybe just sent a message to Tim on LinkedIn and informed him that if I see one more illegally leaked document of photos that were taken from my laptop bag from my home by your business partner, I'm going to call the FBI. You've been informed that your partner has committed interstate felonies because he took pictures in Alabama, he transported them across state lines to New Jersey, and he posted them online from New Jersey. That's an interstate villiny considering the India, It's an act of corporate espionage because he founded a competing company right after that. It's an act of international espionage.
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Speaker 2: Because he has a dual citizens dual citizenship status.
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Speaker 11: It's an act of breach of presidential executive presidential privilege because the document is you know, addressed to Trump on the very first page. And are you aware that your business partner left a very messy, very messy trail of evidence about these multiple villinies. It's extremely extremely easy to prove in court.
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Speaker 1: Frank, what is she talking about? Do you believe her computer had been hacked?
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Speaker 4: That happened to her a lot, and she was regularly, for example, when she's attacked with directed energy weapon, which all documented, she was working on air gap computer precisely because she didn't want to be connected to the internet. Her team and her were constantly having to clean reinstall their phones, their computers precisely because of this hacking. But in that particular case here that the person that she names in the clip that you played previously, he's been gaslighting me and her since before she died. She knew I've got emails going back to you know, sorry, I've got documents going back to twenty twenty one saying that she was being a target of industrial blesphonage by him and his partner. These people have been trying to gaslight her before and after her death and trying to portray her as crazy. Is not competent, but this is what be thoroughly investigated by the FBI. I know these people. They're trying to gaslight me too, so you know, this is actually disgusting behavior. Talking very very badly about a deceased, dead lady. You can't defend herself, but that's why I'm here to defend her.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned being harassed, harassed, and also you mentioned a directed power hit on her body from which she allegedly sustained multiple bruises, and showed them two people this.
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Speaker 4: Wasn't alleged, It's all documented. And I actually showed you know, the images of her to a doctor friend of Miya and she said, yeah, there's are consistent you know, with with with the directed energy microwave weapons. Havana syndrome is mostly acoustic, but these were the directed energy microwave weapons that literally, you know, fry your body, fry your central nervous system, fry your spine give you all kinds of gas and tests.
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Speaker 1: And promise I want you to listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Have been typing on the second offline computer right here, super consensitive for the past several days, with this window right here to my right and that window door right there to my left, and I've been my hands have been murned to helen back as I've been typing, because you can beat me through there and through or through there, and you can get a three D image of what I'm typing. Because this computer doesn't have a Wi Fi card, you can't hack it, but you can maybe get a three D image of me typing. So like we just did that, and did that as an act of as an act of pure desperation, and guess what, I feel better immediately. I feel better immediately. Like my hand's still burn because there's damage. My hand's still burn because there's damage, but but it's like my body relaxed when we barricaded and it was like, oh, like relief, like immediately because they're hit me through the I'm sitting here typing on this thing. Like directed energy weapons are about harming and harassing people, but they're also sometimes surveillance mechanisms where you can.
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Speaker 11: You can't hack the computer.
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Speaker 12: Because there's no Wi Fi card, but you can send microwaves in to get a three D image of me typing on the keyboard, and you can reconstruct what I'm typing microwaving me.
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Speaker 2: Even though you can't hack it.
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Speaker 11: There's no why Badguard.
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Speaker 2: That's the type of Shenanigan's going on right now. That's the reality of like directed energy tools and weapons like that's kind of what's going on.
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Speaker 1: We just showed a photo of Eskridge's red hands. What is that?
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Speaker 4: That was when she was working literally on that project for Homeland security and she was I think about six stories up, but they got hit with a directed energy weapon and she got burnt on her hands, not on her face. I believe it was on her hands. So something directed specifically at her hands. And there's another scientist that actually sent you the videos. There's another scientist with her in the background, and you can hear him say it's a directed energy weapon, a microwave directed energy weapon. So there's two witnesses there, two scientists who are expert witnesses and able to describe exactly what is happening to them.
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Speaker 1: I'm scared.
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Speaker 6: Tired.
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Speaker 2: I'm real tired. I need to disclose soon, man, I need to pull them soon because it's like escalating. It's getting more and more aggressive, like over the past this has been going on for like I don't know, four or five years, and over the past twelve twelve months it has been like escalating, escalating, like more aggressive, more invasive.
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Speaker 1: Much happening out of the New Mexico jurisdiction, New Mexico in California. Listen to these connections and how the people went missing. Monica Jacinto Risa worked at the AFRL Air Force Research Lab. General Mchason oversaw actually ran coming deared the AFRL, including the funding, specifically Resa's project. She got her funding from AFRL and she was specializing in jet propulsion. She is on a hike in the La National Forest. She's with a friend, a female friend, who's just ahead of her. The friend looks back, she waves and smiles. A few minutes later, she looks back. Monica's gone gone. An intense digital search and more was conducted nothing in the space of ten minutes. She's gone. You know, let me go to you, Lauren Colin, you have done a really deep dive on Monica Jasin Theresa and your article in La magazine was eye opening, and I'm sure that took you hundreds and hundreds of hours of research to put that one article together. Remind us about how Monica just disappears off a trail.
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Speaker 13: Of course, Monica's disappearance is very chilling because she was with two people from her yoga group and reportedly she was descending from a mountain with her her male companion, only she was behind him about thirty feet. They were both running again, this is a steep terrain. No one can understand why they were running. The male companion turned around, he waved to her.
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Speaker 3: A minute later, she.
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Speaker 13: Was gone, vanished into thin air, and that red beanie was found on a more dangerous path leading off of the mountain. This is Mount Waterman, and her scent stopped at that beanie. Nancy very strange. I have spoken to close family members who are desperate to find their you know, their sister, their mother, their cousin. Monica is a widow. They wanted everyone to know that she was not working for any type of foreign government, any foreign intelligence. She was studying yoga with a specialty in vedic sciences, and she had done this for about thirty years, and she was working for NASA JPL at the time. One last thing I want to say about Monica Nancy is the fact that she had an iPhone eight, which meant that her cell phone was not going to ping anywhere unless she was at a proper place in the mountain for it to work. If she would have had an iPhone twelve, it could have pinged. But this is one of the most baffling things ever. Again because she was with two people, two companions, and they both seemed to have a very specific story. And as far as I know, Nancy, no one else can put Monica on the mountain that day except for these two people.
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Speaker 1: Lauren Colin. Isn't it true that Monica Hyacintha Reisa got her funding from a FRL Air Force research lab and she worked closely with and her funding was approved by William Neil McCasland, who walked away from his home with none of his ID, without his phone, without anything on him to identify who he was except an Air Force sweatshirt which was found discarded about two miles away. McCaslin oversaw Monica jusin Theresa's projects and okay, the funding for her, isn't that true?
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Speaker 13: They did overlap, and I you know, I've reached out to these places like right Patterson, the Air Force Research Lab, and I think I mentioned this to you. It's very difficult to get confirmation of what people did exactly and and the years that they worked there.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 13: So I'm going off of LinkedIn for these two in general. But yes, Monica Resa, you know she copatented these high strength metal alloys, burn resistant alloys, and General McCaslin was at the very top. So this to me like they are the center of all of this.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk to you first. I want to play you trying to get answers out of DC that chance, listen to this.
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Speaker 13: Everybody nothing Red Bertett, nothing on the missing scientist, General McCaslin.
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Speaker 3: Sh Maybia you figured it out.
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Speaker 6: Of course there's something going on.
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Speaker 3: Yes, fourteen rabbis fourteen prayfer fourteen US car salesman disappeared.
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Speaker 6: You'd be asking.
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Speaker 14: Less you.
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Speaker 1: What was that about the rabbi, the preacher and the used cars.
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Speaker 6: You know what.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to knock around in his head, no offense. I want to talk about the facts as we know. Then Can we talk about McCaslin, By the way, that's from Lauren Colin for on TikTok and here she is in the flesh. Can we talk about McCasland, because he kicked the whole thing off. I mean, his credentials are incredible. First of all, who is McCasland, Lauren.
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Speaker 13: Well, he is pretty much more credentialed, I would say than any president we've had in about two decades. But he oversaw eighty percent of the Pentagon's Black Ops project. He was a retired Air Force general. He was stationed at Right Patters obviously the Air Force Research Lab, and Nancy. I had a very successful Boyer request fulfilled last week where I was given by the Bernalio Sheriff's office the last known photo of General McCaslin the day before he went missing. And I was in shock because I am thinking, why am I the one putting this out? Why didn't law enforcement or the FBI put this out? And not only that in the police report. In one of the police reports anyway, they indicate that the FBI did in fact join the investigation on March third, So I've reached out to them as well. But I will say. Parsing through this and going through all of the bodycam footage, all of the interviews, you learn a lot about General mccaslin's last few months and it is very heartbreaking. There are certain things that don't add up. But also I do want to point out that friends said that starting in January he was himself. He was actually in the process of looking for a doctor to diagnose whatever he thought that he had listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Has he been diagnosed with any mental photos or anything like that.
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Speaker 10: Well, we've been seeing the doc for both physical and mental in terms of anxiety, short term memory loss, lack of sleep. The same doc I went to see today very very active physically and has always had a very sharp mind.
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Speaker 5: Retired Major General from.
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Speaker 10: PhD from MiB Well, and he's been feeling brainfaught today. He had taken a drug that the doctor prescribed last night that was supposed to have his sleep with weight gain. He's lost about twenty pounds for no reason and with anxiety.
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Speaker 8: I was shocked this morning when I saw the alert because what I noticed Thursday evening is he wasn't his usual self. He was kind of spacey and quiet.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at daily mail to Dave mac Crime Stories investigative reporter who has been on the missing scientists and lab workers from the beginning that McCaslin had multiple senior Pentagon roles. He oversaw nuclear research at Los Alamo's National Lab who just walked away with no identification on him to me, had connections to so many of the others, Dave.
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Speaker 7: Mac wine Lynch pen for the money attached to all the research. Nancy, you got to remember McCaslin was the Air Force Research Laboratory head at Right Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. This is a position that he stayed until he retired, and he was dealing with billions, not millions, but billions of dollars in advanced material sciences and future weapons research across the nation and all of our centers that we were investigating. So all the research that was being done, all the funding that came for that research went through mccaslin's hands. That's why he was aware of everybody that was moving around. And he's there in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which is where Kirtland Air Force Base is. That's where he retired after leaving Right Patterson and Ohio. Well, what do we know about these areas. They are huge in the UFO research that has been done, and McCaslin is connected to all of these things.
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Speaker 1: Joining us tonight and All Star panwell. But first I want to go to John Nance, former supervisory special Agent with the FBI assigned to the Miami and DC field offs is over twenty years. Mister Nance, thank you for being with us tonight. I know you're not a medical examiner, but I'm very fatigued with claims that all of these top security clearance scientists and lab workers all just walk out of their home with no ID, no cell phone. Melissa Casius's cell phone had been factory wiped when her daughter found her cell phone, that they all just walk out and suddenly have an urge to commit suicide. Melissa Cassius gun found near her body. She was completely skeletonized by the time her body has been found. Family says she was not acting unusually in any way. The family says, that's not her gun, that's not our gun. Where did that gun come from? And most disturbing, mister Nance, there's no bullet at that scene anyway. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist part of my pun to figure out something is way off with this story.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, none of this makes any sense, the theories surrounding, you know, while these people are committing suicide, it just doesn't. It just doesn't hold investigative water. There are a lot of unanswered questions, especially in Cassis's case. In fact, her husband said that part of her story was that she was going to return home to get her ID badge, when in fact he saw her with the ID badge in the vehicle, So that makes no sense. And of course, as you've already mentioned, the cell phones, the smartphones being reset to factory settings, all these things indicate that she didn't necessarily intend to take her life, but that she could have been in fear for her safety in some form or fashion and maybe was attempting to escape. I mean, that's that's a possibility.
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Speaker 1: I want to see the last known image of Melissa Cassillas. There she is, Hey, where are all those things she's got to backpack with her?
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Speaker 10: What?
00:30:24
Speaker 1: Where is all that? Because we haven't heard word one about any of that being found by or around her body. And also no animal activity. She's been missing a long time and her body, her skeleton is sitting up undisturbed, pristine leaning against a tree. That defies everything I know about a crime scene where a body is found skeletonized. It would have fallen apart. By now, Lauren Conlin, what more can you tell us about the discovery of Causius's body? What do you know?
00:31:05
Speaker 13: Well, I've been in touch with the new Mexico State Police and they have been very responsive to me. It is the PIO, the Press Information officer, and she has indicated she is going back and forth with investigators to see if they can disclose what they have. Because I submitted a Foyer request for the autopsy report and I was denied actually two days ago, and not because you know they couldn't give it to me or wouldn't give it to me, It's because they don't have it completed yet, Nancy. So I, like you, I am waiting for the facts. All we know officially right now is that there was not an initial projectile in this skull, as you mentioned. And this photo of Melissa and her daughter, it breaks my heart, Nancy. All of everything you've said, the fact that Melissa took medication with her, her toothbrush with her, that really tells me that she wasn't planning on taking her own life. So I I just want answers. I I feel for her family to this.
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Speaker 3: We cannot vcate my wife. We haven't heard from her all day from work with this oil. Was the last time I saw work. She my daughter saw her around one o'clock. All her stuff was here in the house. But she's not here. And it's just not like her to not call to check in and and take her purse and her phone. And it looks like her phone has been my goters. It looks like it's been reset. But there, you know. So we left all around the house, everywhere on our property. We cannot find her or nothing, and uh, I don't know what to do. The carl who was in a purcha at the house. The keys are here, The house.
00:32:42
Speaker 7: Was long.
00:32:44
Speaker 3: Very everything was was here, you know what I mean. So she she went from the father, she came home. Well car was here parked in the yard. The keys are on the kitchen cable.
00:32:55
Speaker 10: What's her name?
00:32:57
Speaker 3: I'm alystics And we called the hospital sy because I mean, you know, no one, there's no one in there, uh, you know at all like that, because we thought, well maybe if something happened to her her personal everything, curious of no one will be able to identify her. And as you said, she took with her phone, she didn't take nothing seeing her phone and everything's here, and she always takes her stuff with her. My daughter was trying to attract her location and they always track each other, but her. But her phone's wipe. The thing is what we get. And she would never have wiped all the pictures off and all the information off of her.
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Speaker 6: Pope that is.
00:33:35
Speaker 1: Moliska se is his husband's nine on one call that we have just obtained. Joining me now. Glenn Anne Johnson Glen Anne is a former weapons engineer. Let that sink in just for a moment. At the US Department of Defense. She worked in Huntsville. Why do we keep hearing Huntsville? That is where a NASA installation exists, and there is also a very you know to us lay people mysterious lab there as well. She worked at Kirkland Air Force Base and in Mexico where Mchason worked. She worked at the Naval Service War Center. She has worked on multiple high tech military weapons, including dee W lasers nukes for the Navy and Air Force. Glenn Anne, are you tired of hearing about highly highly influential US scientists and lab workers just walking away and committing suicide like it is said Amy Eskridge did after she told Milburn, if I end up dead, I did not commit suicide.
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Speaker 8: Know that.
00:34:53
Speaker 1: Now, Cassius.
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Speaker 16: So I don't believe any of them committed suicide, and I I think we're actually I think the reason that the reporter got crickets in DC is because there's a full investigation ongoing where I think we're kind of at an old fashioned Moscow rules, and in the old days it was an unwritten rule that if you kill one of our people, we kill one of yours, you know, United States in Russia. I think this is ongoing with scientists right now. I think they're being maybe kidnapped and then interrogated and then murdered. And I think they're making some of them look like suicide so that it's more deniable and it won't have a full investigation. But there's so many of them at this point that it's occurred to that it doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Melissica see US's injuries could have been caused see I'm going with a good old fashioned bullet or blunt object, because I understand that. But with your knowledge, Glenn Ann, do you believe she could have succumbed to a dew directed energy weapon.
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Speaker 16: It's possible. I think she was probably. I think she was hit with directed energy weapons to get her to leave her family to protect them. And I think that she was probably interrogated, which may have involved some kinetic attacks to her skull and what have you. But I think that she was lured away from her home by the directed energy weapons.
00:36:29
Speaker 1: Many people believe that several of the seventeen missing or dead are connected to McCaslin also missing. Let me understand, Lauren Conlin, the connection between Melissa Cassius, an administrator at la n L Los Alamo's Nuclear Lab, and afr L. That's the Air Force Research Lab. That's Melissa, okay, who took with her two very odd items that torpede the working theory as to how she died. Now both Cassius and Chavez, we're at AFRL Air Force Research Lab. Okay, Now wait for it. McCaslin, General will William Neil McCaslin oversaw the funding, all the funding at AFRL. He also oversaw Monica Jacinto USA, who also disappeared, also Stephen Garcia built parts for nuclear weapons connected to AFRL Air Force Research Lab. That's how they're all connected. And the connections, they're like tentacles that go to all of these missing and dead scientists. Now they want me to believe that Melissa Cassius shot herself. What like Amy Eskridge. Let me see that picture one more time of her walking along the bridge. This is the last known photo of Melissa Cassias, the last, the final image of her alive. It's from a surveillance camera in You're State Road five one eight in New Mexico. This is three miles from her home. That's something to ponder as well. Typically in self inflicted mortal wounds, the person doesn't go for a hike. First tonight, what happened to scientist Aiden Schaeffer? As yet another scientist has been looped into this last name will Cox straight out to special Guests joining us Georgia Bradburn joining us from the UK, host of Liminality, who has broken the latest on a deceased scientist, Aiden Schaeffer. You can find her on YouTube Interliminality. Georgia, thank you for being with us. Aiden Schaeffer. What did he study?
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Speaker 14: So Aidan was looking into alternative propulsion. He was involved in space ports in college. He was studying multiple aspects of ways to get humans into space, and he is believed to have been working on anti gravity towards the end of his life. Unfortunately, but what he was doing towards the end, unfortunately, we do not know. It's unclear what it was he was working on.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just curious when you say propulsion, Georgia, are you referring to jet propulsion.
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Speaker 14: I believe it was field effect propulsion that Aidan was looking into. He wanted to find any sort of alternative that would get humans into space. He was aiming to do that by some sort of clean energy alternative. From what I can gather, he was very much involved in an alternative to jet engines. He wanted us to get there, and he was in in space elevators as well. He was doing that for five years. So his research and development was all got geared towards humans in space and looking for alternative ways to get us.
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Speaker 1: Aiden Schaefer born raised New Mexico, New Mexico, popping up again fascinated with science space technology in a field known as field effect propulsion, listen. That's him, that's Aiden Schaeffer's speaking about his fear based on certain incidents that had occurred that his phone was, for lack of a better word, tapped. That is from vlog of the Dead. It's on YouTube. And now I want you to hear something that Chris Schwecker told us, so it.
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Speaker 17: Would not be out of the realm of possibility that China or Russia or some other hostile foreign intelligence service would kidnap one of our scientists and try to extract information out of them or turn them into a double agent. General public tends to be a little bit unaware of the prolific efforts to steal our sensitive technologies from A to Z. Thereafter it day in and day out, and thereafter the people that are working on it. It's a comprehensive, ongoing effort on the part of hostile foreign intelligence services to steal our technology. I think we're going to see this list grow and it's going to play out in the public eye because of great interest to the public.
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Speaker 1: That is our guest tonight, our friend Chris Swecker, Forming FI Assistant director speaking to Fox Nation. But let's hear it from the horse's mouth. You know, Chris, so often when we hear someone say I think somebody's listening on my phone, you immediately think they're crazy. Right, this guy, Aiden Schaeffer, we just saw him speaking. He's not crazy. He thought someone was listening to his phone or gathering information from his phone. And at your level at the FBI, that is not uncommon.
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Speaker 18: You can't overstate how aggressive and proactive, especially China is in trying to gather up and steal our technology. And it isn't just technology in the hands of our defense establishment, if you will, it's any technology that's helpful to them that will help them compete, you know, in the world marketplace, in in you know, in military, in you know, research and development, because they don't do their own research and development. They reverse engineer every just about everything. They don't have the you know, the initiatives and the freedom that we have here to do that, you know, research and technology. So there after it every day he sounded, you know, I agree with you. You sound a little paranoid. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And in this case that may well have been true, because China, especially Russia's at it too, but they're a little more clumsy and they're easier to detect. China is at it all day, every day through cyber means, trying to compromise. Scientists go to trade shows, introduce born exchange students. They're at it all the time. And you know it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me at all. And this is an alternative theory that one or more of these scientists had been turned. And now you're in. You're in it and you can never get out of it. The only way you can get out of it is to take your own life.
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Speaker 1: Chris, I want you and everyone else on our guest Pedel tonight. I've been watching the videos of Aiden Schaeffer over and over and over. I'm just a lay person to detect what I can. I've looked at every word. I just want you to see and hear him speaking. Listen. I just wanted you to see that. And there's so much more that's from the vlog of the dead that is Aiden Shaef for speaking, and there's a lot of it and he's not just based on that, but everything I've learned. He's brilliant. Joining me now is lou Elisondo former US Army counter intelligence special agent, former employee Office Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, former director of Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and UFO whistleblower. Wow. Uh, mister Alizondo, I want to thank you for being with us tonight. Also very curious about Matthew Sullivan aka Quake. Is it true or do you know whether an autopsy was ever ever performed on Sullivan and what was said to be his cause of death?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So rather than share what I don't know, let me share you with you what I do know. He was an Air Force intelligence officer. He was a colleague of one of my colleagues at the time, Dave Groosch. Dave Grush and I had worked at US Space Force together, and Sullivan wanted to come forward and have a conversation with certain members of Congress about the Air Force's involvement in the UFO program, and he was slated within I think twenty four hours. He had gone to Washington, d C. And was in a hotel from my understanding, and was going to have a conversation with some members of Congress. Any skiff a skiff is a sensitive compartment and information facility, so it's kind of like a think of a secret vault where you can have conversations at the classified level. And the day before he was supposed to have a conversation, or two days before, he wound up being found dead, I knew. What I do know is that there was a wild for the medical Examiner even released a report. It kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed. I don't know the reason why it was delayed, but I do know that members of Congress were very concerned the fact that this individual was supposed to testify and wound up dead. And by the way, this wasn't the only one. There was another individual whose name I won't mention because it hasn't been made public yet, but he was an individual, an engineer, who was allegedly tied to the exploitation of recovered UFO material. He was he was talking to one of my colleagues, and he was going to go talk to Congress about his knowledge about legacy US government legacy UFO efforts. And within I think a week or so before he was supposed to go to Washington, d C. He wound up dying. And the cause of death I don't know, but one of my colleagues was following it very closely and was concerned enough to tell me, hey, look, you know people are starting to disappear. You may want to be very careful. So there does seem to be a very interesting You can call it a coincidence. But in my line of work as a former intelligence officer, you know, when things happened once, it's an anomaly. When things happened twice, you could chalk it up as a coincidence. But when it happens three times, now you have a trend.
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Speaker 1: That said, I'm going to be remiss if I did not mention physicist, brilliant physicist, doctor Ning Lee. She had been awarded four hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the DoD and she disappeared briefly. Then she was mowed down in a crosswalk. Nobody else went out in the crosswalk, but she was suddenly thrust into the crosswalk. She got mowed down. Her husband immediately had a heart attack and later died. She was brain dad and then later died. To Stephanie joining us COO's Crime Weekly podcast, what can you tell me about her? I know she's Chinese American, and I know that she was brilliant and I know nobody but her ended up in that crosswalk when she got mowed down.
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Speaker 8: Doctor Ningley worked at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and she was doing anti gravity work and research there. She then left the university after a significant amount of time there and she started her own business, and then the government came calling and they gave her that grant to work on continued anti gravity research. Because this is Huntsville, they do that stuff there as well as advanced propulsion research. And then she started working with the government, and at that point she kind of went dark, and there was a big thing online for a while because people thought she disappeared. She was off the map for quite a bit, and there was a journalist who was trying to find her to talk to her about her research, and he couldn't find her, and he reached out to another anti gravity researcher, Eugene Polannach, and Eugene said, oh, she's working for the government. She just can't talk to anybody about what she's doing right now. But Eugene also said, I haven't been able to reach her either. And it was several years later when this same journalist finally tracked down doctor Ningley's son, and the son said she had been a hit. She had been in a terrible car accident which had left her with permanent brain damage. She developed dementia, and then he took care of her for several years until she finally passed away from this. But she was never the same obviously, she never went back to work.
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Stephanie, is that doctor Lee has been compared to Amelia Earhart. She is the Amelia Earhart of physics, the scientists that many people say quote discovered anti gravity. That's the significance of who is doctor ning Lee. She was brilliant. Now I'm hearing that a female space scientist died after a boulder fell on her car. What's the odds of that happening? Straight out to Lauren Conlin, joining US investigative reporter with the Los Angeles LA Magazine, star of Pop Crime TV co host. You can find her at Pop Crime TV. Lauren, why did I have to find that buried amongst all sorts of outlandish theories regarding these missing scientists and dead scientists? Is any of that true? Who is Ingrid Lane? And is it true she has disappeared? But her car's down with a boulder attack.
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Speaker 13: Yes, so, as far as we know, Nancy, she is still alive. She is just missing Ingrid Lane. She was a beautiful musician. She played the violin. But she was also a neuroscientist and a bioengineer affiliated with the Mind Research Network at the University of New Mexico. Now this place, the Mind Research Network, it had ties to Los Alamos and San Dia National Laboratories. So that is where this very very striking connection comes in. The way that Ingrid disappeared is so chilling. Nancy she was actually at a retreat that she was supposed to be on a week long retreat at a place called the Body Manda Zen Center. And according to reports and friends and family, she was very familiar with this place. She had been going there, I guess on and off for about ten years. It was about an hour from where she lived in the Albuquerque area. So she's there for one day. The very next day she tells people that she's going for a drive. She's got to go back to Albuquerque. She's got to go back to Los Alamos. She wants to hike over there and she'll be back later. Now this struck a few people as odd because it's like you're going on a zen retreat, but now you want to drive a bunch of hours even though you're supposed to be meditating. Now here's where it gets a little weird. So she's driving along State Route one point forty four near the San Antonio Mountain and the vayas Calledra National Preserve. She is going up and up and up to the top of this mountain. Now two people find her because she is having car trouble and they ask her, you know, do you need some help, and she says, you know, I'm fine, I will fix my car. They said, she seemed very determined to get to the top of this mountain. So, according to these two people, they walk along and she continues. Now, later, as you mentioned, her car was found after there was an Apple air tag that police tracked when she was reported missing. Now, there was a large boulder that had shattered near the rear hatch window of her Subaru and the front showed reportedly major front and collision damage. We don't really have an explanation about that. But three laptops found inside that car. Nancy, an unactivated burner phone, and her keys were still in the ignition the toll is now.
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Speaker 1: Up to eighteen missing or dead scientists, and I want you to listen to this. You've got Michaslon who just walked away and never seen again, Shaeffer who died in custody on a contested claim. Asinthareisa just seemingly just beamed up out of a heavily wooded area. She's never seen again. Chavez still missing. Cassias now claims she committed suicide, although no cod has been offered. There's no bullet, which means no suicide. Garcia missing, May Wald no cause of death since twenty twenty four. Jason Thomas is found dead in a pond. Michael David Hicks. It was said he died of obesity. Okay, Amy Eskridge, David Wilcock, Joshua le Blank, Matthew Sullivan, Top Clearance, Ning Lee, renowned scientists, walks in front of a car. Ingrid Lane still missing after a boulder attacked her car. But where was her body? Kevin Childress dead on the sofa? Okay, Glenn Anne Johnson, weapons engineer with the US Department of Defense. What do you make of the list I just gave you?
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Speaker 16: Well, it's happening. What happened to them, is happening to a lot of people with top secret clearance that had nothing to do with UFOs and found foreign malicious code and parts in US systems, especially US Air Force systems. And they changed my medical records to say that I had anxiety, mental depression, things that I've never had, and it was from medical records from Vanderbilt, a place I've never been. So they were setting it up to do the same thing to me. It's happening to my friends that owned companies that found code injections from the same locations Huntsville, Alabama and Curtland Air Force Base, New Mexico. So I think that all of these people's connection is that they try to stop terrorism and counter terrorism from occurring. They blew the whistle on something and there are people, bad actors that murdered them for it, and they made it look like a suicide.
00:57:11
Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything regarding the missing and dead scientists and lab workers, please dial eight hundred, Call FBI eight hundred, call FBI two two five five three two four. We remember American hero Captain Christopher Guero, New York State Police died as a result of being a hero in the September eleven attacks, served our country for twenty three years, leaving behind his wife Jillian, and two daughters, Ella and Maggie. American hero Captain Christopher Guero. Thank you to our guest, but especially to you for being with us tonight. Nancy Gray signing off for tonight, but I'll see tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend.
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm
