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Speaker 1: Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight on kredline two point five billion. That's how much taxpayers you are going to shout out to keep the tommygo smelter afloat. And the PMS still under fire for crude commentary about the Japanese leader despite a bump in the polls. Andrew Bragg risks coalition in fighting with a speech yesterday full of politic thought, bubbles across a whole host of portfolios, and Goes Taylor forced to shut him down. Today, last ad shock departure of White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt. What does this mean for the Trump administration just a few months out from the midterms, and astounding scenes where else but in Melbourne of high school kids protesting against Pauline Hansen. A TGV ignorance on display was phenomenal, but they went after our own reporter Georgie Dickerson.
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Speaker 3: Aimless sentiment to where cazer.
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Speaker 4: Is, don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy kids protest seem pretty stupid commentary, ignorant commentary. I'll get to that at the moment, but first, as much as he mightn't wish it otherwise. In the Parliament today, the Prime Minister was still dogged by his crew commentary about his Japanese counterpart. Here's Opposition Leader Angus Taylor kicking off. At the top of question time.
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Speaker 5: This morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about his classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again he refused to give a straight answer. To save him from embarrassment, the new South Wales Premier stepped in and shut down the question why won't the Prime Minister Manner stop hiding behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his grubby behavior?
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Speaker 6: And I direct into the comments of the Ambassador of Japan, who's stated very clearly the dinner hosted by Prime Minister Albanezi during the Prime Minister's visit to Australia this May was held in a very relaxed atmosphere and we believe it helped build a personal trust relationship between the two leaders. Indeed it did. We have a very good relationship with Japan and I look forward to continuing to work with our friends on economic issues as well as interests of peace and security and prosperity in our region.
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Speaker 2: Now I chose to play the Prime Minister's response in full tonight because I wanted you to see that there was not even anything remotely resembling an apology to Japan's first ever female leader. And then I want to play you something that no one should miss after that question from the opposition leader, Well, the government then gets to ask itself a question. Asking yourself a question in parliament, we call that O Dorothy Dixon.
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Speaker 7: So with the Prime Minister on the.
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Speaker 2: Ropes about the melon comments and the disrespect he showed Sono Takachi, he showed Japan, even the disrespect shown to Carlie Minogue and his own wife over those shagging comments. Have a listen to VI from one of the labor backbitch was.
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Speaker 8: The Albanezy labor government working to prevent family, sexual and domestic violence, improve early intervention and make sure women and children can access support they need free from violence.
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Speaker 7: How more shameless can this bloke get?
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Speaker 2: The man who makes smutty, crude jokes about women now wants to lecture the nation about treating women and girls with respect. Well done on the opposition heading back with this follow up question. A month before he made sexist remarks about the Prime Minister of Japan on the Bushjeep podcast. The Prime Minister did post this comment online. No matter who's support in politics, it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify, belittle or offend women. So why won't the Prime Minister stop hiding behind his female front benches and the new South Wales Premier and take responsibility for his disrespectful behavior. Good on y Thigh McKenzie for calling it out, and shame on every one of those labor women running a protection racket for the Prime minister.
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Speaker 7: The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot.
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Speaker 2: Trying to perpetuate this ridiculous, this ridiculous thing.
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Speaker 9: The remarks from the Prime Minister have been misinterpreted.
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Speaker 7: He has enormous respect for women.
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Speaker 10: Those opposite who have engaged, who are so desperate to score, so desperate to score political points that they are confecting a diplomatic issue.
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Speaker 2: All of you women, His sheerler shields you, diminish, all of us making excuses for grubby innuendo filmed from the couch at the lodge instead of calling it out now, not so, Chris Mins. Some journalists today said that Min's defended alban Easy at the press conference they held together today in the Hunter Valley. Mins did not. Chris Mins did not. He spoke up to change the topic. But if you listen carefully, he didn't make excuses, unlike the labor women for smart that just can't be defended.
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Speaker 7: Here's a clearly.
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Speaker 2: Under pressure and frustrated Prime minister today and then that intervention from Premier Mins.
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Speaker 6: I've answered this question many times. The fact is, well, the fact is, the fact is that the Japanese Prime Minister and I have a very good relationship the Japanese. The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear statements indeed about how warm our dinner was, and it was indeed, it was fair.
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Speaker 11: Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today.
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Speaker 12: Witnestly, this is the.
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Speaker 11: Biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: You'll recall last night I said this about Min's when it comes to integrity the left of frauds. I couldn't imagine Peter Malinowskis or Chris Min's behaving as the Prime Minister did in that low rent podcast. I couldn't imagine Kim Beasley entertaining a question about shagging Kylie.
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Speaker 7: Mino, I just can't.
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Speaker 2: Look if your emails to me today are any indication of many of you agree with those comments. Almost all of you say just how embarrassed you are that almin Easy represents us and our country on the world stage. And I agree with you, but questions of character to one side. We'll come back to this. Let's get into the reason why Min's was there with Alban Easy this morning in the Hunter Valley.
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Speaker 6: It is in our national interest to have an economy that has manufacturing that is not dependent upon something somewhere else occurring, because we know that can lead to disruption.
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Speaker 11: It's a complicated deal. It was not straightforward. You've got the federal government, the state government alongside Tommygo. We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past a media release or a meeting like this, but decades into the future.
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Speaker 2: Today's announcement and risky package for tom Ago are whopping two point five billion dollars to bail out a smelter and keep heavy industry in this country. And it's not government money. There's no such thing as government money.
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Speaker 7: This is your money.
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Speaker 2: It's your money bailing out Rio Tinto because without the cash that leave Australia and go and set up in a country where power prices are cheaper. That's the reality, and who can blame them? We have done this to ourselves. Australia is only in this position because we've all drunk the green energy cool aated have gone from being a country rich with God given natural resources that we used to use like colon gas, to one fast drowning and dead and energy insecurity. Because we think Chinese wind turbines and pels solar panels make more sense, Well they don't and they never will not when the coal and gas that we won't use here is shipped off to China and India for them to use anyway, how's that saving the planet? It's not, you know that it's powering their economy. It's making China and India richer, but doing nothing for the environment. It takes China just twelve days to produce the same amount of carbon emissions that we in Australia produce in a whole twelve months. We are one percent of global emission. But somehow we think we can change the weather here or by ourselves. We just have to go back to the dark, dark ages, junk jobs and make ourselves poorer as a result. Now, years ago, business writer Terry mccran warned that net zero policies were an economic suicide note and he was right. At today's announcement, alongside Albanezy and Chris Mins was Energy Minister Chris Bowen. I mean it's like the arsonist standing there at the fire brigade, isn't it. I mean, who does alban Easy and Bowen think they are kidding? We all know that the only reason tom Ago needs this bailout is because of labour's net zero madness.
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Speaker 5: This is a two and a half billion dollar admission of failure on energy policy in this country. Why are we paying this because we've butchered our energy system.
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Speaker 7: That's why.
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Speaker 5: Because when we had Caulfi power stations, Tommogo was never asking us for money.
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Speaker 7: Was it part of today's bailout? I should add?
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Speaker 2: It is about labor trying to hold off a push by one nation into those Hunter Valley coal mining seats. Now there's a state election in Victoria, of course, in November, but there's also one in New South Wales in March, and labor are worried, so they are using the two point five billion announced today to shore up workers' jobs and votes using your money. If you work it out, that bailout equates to about two million dollars per worker's job. Two million per job. You are getting your private health insurance rebate taken off you. You're being slugged with new taxes so that labor can spend two million dollars per job two point five billion overall to save this smelter and save labor votes in labour seats. Honestly, almost every night I say to myself, I don't think he can get him bad, and he worse.
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Speaker 7: I don't think Australia can.
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Speaker 2: Slip even further down a slide to where nowhere land.
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Speaker 7: And then we do.
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Speaker 2: It gets worse, It gets worse every night. I don't think I've ever seen a government this bad on so many levels, but here we are. And if I feel like that, I suspect you do too. All Right, one week of a sitting, We've got another week next week.
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Speaker 7: Of course, the politicians they.
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Speaker 2: All get out of town on your dime on the planes for the weekend. We'll get the lattice out of camera, though, with the headlines. Political reporter Rubon spargo Good Evening.
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Speaker 3: The Opposition leader is warning his shadow Housing minister to stick to Coalition policy after he sparked an internal fight over migration. Andrew Bragg angered National zmps by suggesting the number of backpackers coming to Australia should be cut.
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Speaker 5: Andrew expressed some of the his personal views yesterday. I made clear to him that his job is to experience them, or can I finish that his job is to express the views of the coalition.
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor insists net overseas migration will ultimately be determined by housing supply. The federal and New South Wales governments have struck a deal to save the Tommago aluminium smelter from imminent closure. The agreement will secure longer term renewable power for the facility at a cost of taxpayers of two and a half billion dollars.
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Speaker 11: We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past a media release or a meeting like this, but decades into the future.
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Speaker 3: Workers are welcoming the deal after months of negotiations. The New South Wales Premier has stepped in to defend the Prime Minister over his infamous podcast appearance I've talked.
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Speaker 6: To you today, just Mahant.
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Speaker 11: This is the biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 3: It was Anthony Abernzi's first press conference since returning from holidays.
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Speaker 2: I'll make it clear he did not defend the Prime Minister. He deflected the question a very different thing. Let's get into the headlines now. I've got a panel a lot to talk about. Joining me now in News twenty four host James Morrow and of course another host on Sunday Night Lover Show, Jamie Rogers.
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Speaker 7: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I'll get in James to the economic detail of this bay. Lad in a moment with Ross Greenwood. But politically this says to me that labor and New South Wales is spooked by one nation.
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Speaker 7: This deal is as much about.
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Speaker 2: Votes in the Hunter and you know one nation got close to taking that seat of Hunter off Joel Fitzgibbon when he was an MP, as it is about sovereign manufacturing.
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's more than about the jobs and about the Hunter than it is about the sovereign manufacturing. I mean, this is a government that talks a big game about manufacturing, Peter was there future Made in Australia, slush funds and everything else. But you know, we've seen what this government is all about. It's all about simply buying votes in key constituencies with your money. That's exactly what's happening here. You worked it out in your editorial two two and a half million dollars per job. And the language, the language that they used in that press conference, particularly when Premier Mins you know, jumped on the grenade for elbow there to help him out and deflect that question, was all about you know, this is the biggest announcement for the Hunter. It wasn't the biggest announcement for Australia's sovereign manufacturing capability. The tell is in the language. This was a campaign.
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Speaker 7: Stop, you're not wrong.
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Speaker 2: And of course it was also the first time we've had the Prime Minister in front of journalists in two weeks.
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Speaker 7: He's very good at this.
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Speaker 2: It gets the sort of headwind and he hides away. He puts his head under the desk, key does staged events, but he avoids top questions. He couldn't hide today, are you right? That's a good one. On the grenade went Chris Min's, as Matt Canavan said, is about the only adult in the room but Jamie all week and we saw it aget in the chamber today. All week he's been dogged by the Japanese comments, sorry, the comments about the Japanese Prime Minister. What really gets under my skin is all these Labor women deflecting and defending that crude and embarrassing podcast. I mean, where is their spine on this stuff?
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Speaker 7: Jamie? Just what I'm Peter.
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Speaker 10: They have all lost their credibility when it comes to talking anything about women. And aren't they the party that's supposed to be all about women and supporting women or where are they? This is the time that they need to be standing up and actually showing women that they do have their back. What we have seen repeatedly from this Labor government is to shear hypocrisy when it comes to women that aren't on the left. If you don't believe in their side of politics, well you're not worth defending. We saw it happen with Gina rein Hart and the ABC issue. But let's not forget how quick all of the Labor politicians, including the Prime Minister, were to come out and condemn that ditch the witch campaign around Jacinterer Allen. But then when it comes to the Japanese Prime minister, who is a conservative, Oh, nothing to see here. When it comes to Gena rein Hart, there's silence and all of them saying that they didn't watch that footage on the ABC. It's just sheer hypocrisy on display. I think it's incredibly disappointing and they've now lost all their credibility and we should be reminding voters this going into the next election.
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Speaker 2: Well, I won't let it rest on make sure right, no, you are, they have no leg just down on when it comes to commentary about women in particularly the Liberal Party and women, let's.
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Speaker 7: Go to migration. Yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Of course we touched on this last night with the Angus Taylor. A speech by Andrew Bragg at the Press Club. He went way beyond his policy rebuilt. He made announcements in relation or I guess prognostications, if I can call them that, because they're not official announcements. He's not the official minister and is certainly not the leader of the opposition, but he made a statement that about one eighty thousand should be where the coalition lands in terms of the net overseas migration number. But James, this really rankled with the Nationals have a listen.
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Speaker 13: As leader of the Nationals Party, we will not be changing, will not be seeking chasseeing changes to working holiday visa makers, because that's not the reason why we've had the surgeon. Migration, often colloquially referred to backpackers, are not taking a house in a major city away from others that could be using it.
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Speaker 5: I look, Andrew expressed some of his personal views yesterday. I made clear to him that his job is to experience them, or can I finish that his job is to express the views of the coalition and the senior team of which he is a member.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, ticked off publicly there, of course by leader.
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Speaker 2: I know that there's been shadow ministers who have spoken to him personally.
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Speaker 7: And I say Bragg by name, Bragg.
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Speaker 2: By nature, James, but there's a not a lot he's got.
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Speaker 7: To brag about.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bragg's behind the disastrous era of Susan Lee's liberal leader.
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Speaker 7: We all know how that ended.
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Speaker 2: I think he should just sit down, stick to his knitting and perhaps not get into everybody else's policy turf.
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Speaker 1: Well, this was such a piece of freelancing, Peter. But you know, there's so much unpack with this here. I want to know, did Angus Taylor's office see the speech before he went to deliver it. I mean, it just seems remarkable to me that he would go and freelance like this, come up with a number one hundred and eighty thousand that's only twenty percent lower than where Labor's targets, and we know they're going to overshoot him by a lot of two hundred and twenty five by twenty seven twenty eight. Is this whole idea? It was so politically cynical there to remind everybody that there's divisions in the coalition about migration by you know, talking about the backpackers and the working holidaymakers and all of that who the agricultural sector relies on. Everybody knows those aren't the people we are concerned about. I mean, maybe if you've got to clean up the mess on New Year's Day at Cougie or Branti, that's about it. The trouble the backpackers cause, not the trouble in the housing market, not all the tertiary education mills that we have. Everybody knows where the problem is that, ain't it. This was a really really underhanded and disgraceful performance, I thought, And you know, I just don't know that Angus Taylor has done enough to pull him into line.
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Speaker 7: I agree with you there.
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Speaker 2: I think this has got a lot to do with faction of politics, sinewsath Wales, and I don't think this will be the end of it. I think brags absolutely on notice and Angus is due to have a race shuffle he hasn't had. And yet I know exactly where I reshuffle Andrew Bragg to. Let's go to the rallies across the nation, kids who should be in school. It's not as though Australia's leading the international league tables at all. It's anything but. But they're out protesting against one nation. Have a look at what happened to our own reporter, Georgie Dickerson in Melbourne in les.
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Speaker 14: Sentiments to where Cazer is and dot.
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Speaker 9: Give it back, give it back, give it back, give.
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Speaker 7: It back, give.
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Speaker 14: It She saw the microphone.
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Speaker 10: We had to actually just chase that protester through the packed crowd.
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Speaker 11: They actually put it inside a cools bag and sprints it off with our microphone.
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Speaker 2: I looked at a lot of the Rushes coming in today on this Jamie, and you know kids screaming fascism. Most of them could spell fascism talking about President Pauline Hansen. Well, kids, that's not how democracy works. We don't have a president as our head of state. I would love to see them sit in class. I'd love to see them learn to debate ideas, disagree with civility.
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Speaker 7: You're a mum, Jamie.
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Speaker 2: You must look at that and think what the heck is happening with kids in Australia. Parents too, they bear responsibility here, but also our education system.
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Speaker 10: Your spot on Peter. All week when we've been talking about the lead up to these protests, I really wanted the schools to step in and also the government, I mean Marine Feruki was signing a pass to give students the day off school. I think what we should have been encouraging is for the students to sit in the classroom and actually analyze one nation's policies and actually talk to each other about what is it that I do like or I don't like and actually start to learn how to think for yourself, not be told what to think. And this is what's getting really concerning about the education system is that children are being forced and told about a certain ideology and then they are absolutely just running with it. And we saw that on display today. A lot of them couldn't explain exactly what it is about Pauline Hanson that they didn't like. I find it really, really, really distressing, and I often refer back to a quote of Abraham Lincoln that said, what is taught and learned in the classrooms today is what will be policy in the future. So it makes me worried about where our country is going when we look at these young kids who are going so far to the left, which of course is fine, but they're still so young. And also, why wouldn't you do a protest on a Sunday? I reckon a lot of those kids there were just trying to get the day off. But it is also a breeding ground for being able to get the left radicalization in youngsters.
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Speaker 2: You know, James, When I was at school in the United States, I did a subject called civil politics and you sat there in year ten I think it was a year eleven equivalent in Australia at least, and you learn about your system of government. In that case, obviously the American system of government. You learned about your democracy warts and all, and you had these sorts of debates and everyone had to do it to finish and get your high school diploma. I think this is missing in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely missing. We've had lots of reports to the state of Civics education in this country is absolutely dire. The one thing I'm harmed by is that the numbers were very small compared to previous school strakes. So you know, I think maybe this is a bit of a fail for the organizers.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe it is.
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Speaker 2: But let's put it back in the curriculum and get some of the other jug out. I'll leave it there, look forward to both your programs you tomorrow night, James, and of course you on Sunday, Jamie.
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Speaker 7: Right before the break.
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Speaker 2: This is a bit of a sign, a straw in the wind. Let's not get too head of ourselves here, but it's a sign to me that the Liberal Party might be getting serious at fighting back on labor and a bit more agile.
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Speaker 7: To have a look.
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Speaker 2: At this ad that's just been released taking the Prime Minister to task for his mounting lies.
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Speaker 3: You can only lie to people once.
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Speaker 7: You can only do it once.
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Speaker 6: Only once?
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Speaker 11: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and capital gains?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 6: How hard is it for the fiftieth time?
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Speaker 9: Were those statements promises?
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Speaker 13: What they were?
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Speaker 3: Statements?
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Speaker 6: And we have changed our position?
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Speaker 3: But bullshit?
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Speaker 6: People got a couple of melons she brought to she brought too as you do?
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Speaker 15: You know I stepped off the stage.
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Speaker 6: I didn't fall over on my backside.
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Speaker 7: I stumbled, that's what happened.
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Speaker 5: How sure are you that that two hundred and seventy five is robust?
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Speaker 12: Well, I don't think.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 6: I know because we have done the modeling.
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Speaker 9: Do you stand by that modeling?
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Speaker 1: It's reputexas modeling.
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Speaker 6: I've always been a man of my word.
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Speaker 7: Authorized by l follow Liberal Canberra. There you go. Pretty powerful, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: And that's gone far and wide on social media this afternoon, right after the bragg Ross Greenwood, we'll look into that announcements day in relation to tome Ago. But it's the tip of the iceberg. We'll get into the other bailouts as well, and the arsonist Chris Bowen at the fire I tell you what, welcome back. We're going to check in with our News twenty four White House correspondent for his assessment of the shock news today that Caroline Leavitt and I'm a huge fan of stepping down as official White House Press secretary. But also in some breaking news, we now know how Nikki Osborne, the podcaster, a deep Bush podcaster who did that interview with the Prime Minister got hold of him and got in his diary and into the front room there at the lodge.
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Speaker 7: I'll have that for you in the moment. It shocks me, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: But let's go now to the bailout announced today by the federal New South Wales governments and it's it's yet another bailout in a long line of bailouts for large scale manufacturing in Australia.
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Speaker 7: Have a look at the screen.
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Speaker 2: The bailouts total now seven point seven billion dollars. That's your money that we're wasting because labor is persisting with a whole lot of green policies designed to drive these manufacturers broke and send them off shore. Joining us now on New twenty fourths, Business editor Ross G. Greenwood, who I suspect is as cranky as I am about this colossal waste of money. It's all borrowed money too, I might add, we're borrowing money left, right and center in this country. But that's two million per job ross.
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Speaker 15: It's a lot of money per job, there's no doubt. But he's the second and important part about this. Rio Tinto is a company that is worth on our stock market two hundred and thirty seven billion dollar and yet it's gone to the government not once but twice to get bailed out from these aluminum smelters.
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Speaker 1: One you saw there is.
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Speaker 15: Quite clearly Tomigo, which is the biggest electricity user in New South Wales that uses up to twelve percent of the total electricity that's generated in New South Wales. The other one is the Boin smelter and Rio Tido owns seventy three percent of that. So you might ask why is it that the government would bail out one of the wealthiest mining companies in the world. Well, the reason is because these companies have threatened to close down these smelters and move elsewhere. Now, aluminium, I've got to tell you is what people sometimes call solid electricity, and so the reason why these smelters are run economic. Every one of those on the screen there near star which is Port Pirie and Tasmania mount Either. Of course, copper whale of steel works is a basket case and arguably could and should have been closed. But the reality is in the aluminium smelters in particular, they need their core ingredient, which makes up about thirty to forty percent of their cost, is electricity. And the reason why they were started here in Australia in the first place is because we had plentiful and cheap electricity, and so as a result of this, as soon as electricity prices have started the rise, as we've had the rollout of renewables, every one of these managers of these aluminium smelters has screamed a government for a decade and basically said, hey, listen, you've got to find a way to give us cheap, reliable base load power because this intermittent power which is coming from the renewables is not good enough to be able to run these smelters. And so their cost of electricity have risen on average by around fifty percent in the past ten years, which makes these smelters uneconomic except for the case when government, state and federal have to effectively bail them out. It's not about the thousand jobs. It's just about the fact that these smelters and the money from Riotinto and other giant miners will pick it self up and go somewhere else in the world. And that is not good for Australia at all.
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Speaker 2: And one I want Painple to understand too, with these heavy industries in Australia, the risk they leave is the national security risk should they go.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of these processes, as it was explained to me in government, in policy sense, a military grade steel is different than a lot of the still that we might import from places like Indonesia and in part in China. So we want that sovereign manufacturing capability of military grade steel on shore. We need to keep these products here like smelters as well all the mining that we possibly can. The world is an uncertain place. So yes, there's a balance sheet risk, absolutely ross, but there's a national security risk if they leave. Hence there is a national security argument and this would have been discussed around the cabinet table believe me, as to why the two and a half billion dollars today should be paid. But what angers me and I think angers every Australian watching this tonight is that the arsonist is there for the announcement. I mean, the reason we're in this mess is Chris Bowen, the arsonist is there as the five brigades trying to put out the fire.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, that's that staggered me.
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Speaker 15: I've got to say so to. I've seen the Industry Minister Tim Ayirs there today absolutely one hundred percent. So I've seen Chris Min's, the new South Wales Premier, who was a reluctant participant in this, I'll say because remember at the very beginning, this was a commitment by the Prime Minister went to those workers, one thousand workers and said I've got dull back, I will actually make certain that this does not collapse. And so as a result, Chris men said, well, you made the announcement, you put most of the money in, and of course the Fed said well no, no, And so there's been friction between the New South Wales government and the federal government over who should pay for the bailout of Tomago. Now, as it turns out, they've had to do separate deals and I think there might be announcements about GST redistribution coming in the next little while. I'll be interested to watch that because that might be the quid pro quo when you say Wales gets something back, particularly from Western Australia. But you know the point is to see Chris Bowen's standing there. Well, you know this was really all about the actual philosophical commitment to renewable energy that really caused these industries to become uneconomic in Australia. And this is not what we want in Australia. We want dynamic, vibrant, competitive businesses here in Australia that stand on their own to feed, that don't need government plailouts. That's what this country needs, not government simply turning up the whole time with a spare billion dollars of your taxpayer dollars to simply prop them up.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to something, Chris Ross now that Greg Sheridan wrote The Australian during the week because I think this is a this is an unhappy collision of foreign policy and economics. He wrote that no country more thoroughly practices in places greater value on courtesy, politeness, dignity, face and respect than Japan. Now you deal with business, I know you've dealt with business in Japan as well, but you deal with Australian companies who put themselves on the front foot with Japan who try and address all of these very localized cultural aspects of doing business and doing it well in Japan. How do you think the Australian businesses would be walking around the streets of Tokyo this week? How are businesses looking at that relationship and looking at the Prime Minister?
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Speaker 15: Well, think about it on a couple of levels. Number one is not just the way in which Japanese people go about their business. Now Again, Japanese people are not impolite people, so they will say nothing about this, but they will never forget. That's another important thing. The second part about this is also bear in mind that this government is already under a big question mark by the Japanese government, which has actually committed through its companies, many tens of billions of to Australian gas export businesses, particularly in that Gladstone region. Now they expect to have that gas there for their own sovereign security. And the real issue right now for Japan is that the government, that is, the Albanese government has said it's going to take twenty percent of all foreign gas it's destined for places such as Japan and use it for the domestic gas industry simply because guess what, we can't or have the wherewithal to go and find more gas for ourselves, despite the fact that we know it's there, we can't approve the developments to get that gas out from under our own feet. And this is where again, places such as Japan, having made commitments knowing that that gas was supposed to be basically taken directly to them over a very long period of time to create their own nations more security, to double cross on that is seen again to be a fundamental betrayal. So even more, I suggest than the melon situation, is that gas situation is equally seen to be a betrayal of trust in the Australian government.
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Speaker 2: And the Prime Minister ending over backwards for Beijing at every opportunity. Also, I know has residence in Tokyo.
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Speaker 7: I'll leave it there.
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Speaker 2: Ross, thank you for your time. After the break, she's a new mum now to two little children. Well today she resigns. So how much do we read into the departure of White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt plus the five for the soul of the Democrats? The rise of the radical left. So are the inmates now in charge of the asylum? Welcome back Stilllicalm the former Islamist fanatic who's now sounding the alarm about the social fabric of Australia. This is at the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism. The First Shop News overnight. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt, as I said I'm a huge fan, has resigned and would finish her role at the end of the month. She said in a statement that the true is since returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter, I have felt it in my heart that I cannot be the best mom mum to the best mum that two young children deserve, and that's why I've ultimately made the bittersweet decision to depart the White House and embark on a new chapter in my life. Joy mean now to discuss this and more, and I'm pleased to say he's in Australia. Our Washington correspondent New twenty four is Jonathan Kursley. Well, John, I know what these jobs are like and compared to working for an Australian Prime minister, it would be absolutely next level over where you normally are, so how do you judge this departure. She has got two little ones, I think two under the age of two. It can absolutely be all about the family, but is it more than that.
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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get some answers over this over the next little while. The big thing for me looking at this is the timing. You are just a matter of a couple of months out from arguably the most important off your elections for quite some time off your elections. Midtim elect that will shape the final two years of Donald Trump's legacy as president forty seven and the final two years of his career as a president. It would be a monumental moment. She was the youngest ever White House Press secretary, and no disrespect obviously Peter did the job you did in a previous lifetime. But this is a highly pressured one of the most highly pressured pr jobs in the world, being the voice of the President of the United States of America. She was combative, but also somebody who was widely seen as perhaps Donald Trump's best publicity weapon, and she was utilized often with great effect. Yes, there would be battles within the White House Press Corps and within the press call more broadly. That is kind of par for the course in the nature of the beast, that is political circles, particularly when you're dealing in politics on this sort of magnitude, I always found a pleasure to deal with. She was always fascinated by issues in Australia's on backyard, particularly when it came to China. But yes, going back to your question, Peter, I think the real question I have in my mind is the timing around all of this. Yes, she's saying it's because she wants to go and be a better mother to her children. She had a child during the presidential election campaign twenty twenty four one, just a matter of three months or so ago. Yes, obviously she is a young mother who wants to go and say she wants to go and do that. But the timing raises significant questions given she is obviously somebody who has great political ambition and now great political experience as well.
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Speaker 2: We have no other job like it in Australia. We don't have anyone speak for our leaders. Our leaders front the camera and take a lot more questions, and we see in many places overseas, not just the United States. I think she's smart as a whip. I think working for any presidents hard, let alone this president, because not only is you out there defending him, he's on Twitter perhaps going in another direction right when you're on your feet talking at the lectern. So, given how good she was, is this only be big shoes to feel?
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Speaker 7: Is he going to have.
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Speaker 2: A demonstrable loss without her there in the press room?
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Speaker 4: There's no denying for the president it's a big loss. Caroline Levitt was always somebody who seemed across her brief and would often respond with if she didn't have the answer, while I will go and try and find it for you. Yes, she was combat even on the front foot, and she was a loyal defender of the president. But there is no denying that this is a big role for the president to now fill. And the question is where is he going to go to. We've seen the likes of Stephen Miller being asked today does he want to do it? Does he know people around it, who around him who would want.
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Speaker 1: To do it?
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Speaker 4: And it is going to be crucially important. Susie Wild's the chief of staff to the President of the United States, arguably one of the best political operators at Washington, DC, has seen for quite some time. Has a very big question to ask, and that is what sort of person do they need in the now, not just for the next six months, because the last thing and tromp more stuff to go and do is do it another sort of Scaramouchi and find somebody after eleven days. What they need to do now is find somebody who can fill the role, not just for the now, but for the next two years.
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Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about the midterms. I think Australians now are getting their head around this war inside the Democrats, the rise of the socialist left. I would have thought the Democrats were already along that path, but this is an even more radical beast inside the party. David Crowley, a more mainstream Democrat, just narrowly beating a Democratic Socialist in Francesca Wong in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 7: Give me your sense of things.
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Speaker 4: Francesco Holng's defeat narrow was widely seen as being a surprise. It doesn't surprise me. She lost that election campaign, the Wisconsin governor's Democratic primary race, and the interesting thing there is it was very tight. Yes, she had her issues around past comments about wanting to cancel off Thanksgiving, issues that dogged her throughout the campaign, and ultimately it was her answers to questions I think that led to her not getting over the line. But the real interesting takeaway from this, Peter, is the real narrow margin we saw in that race. Look at the real narrow margin that we saw in the Michigan Senate primary last week with abdullel said, what that is telling you is that in key crucial states that Democrats need to be a united front, not just for the midterms, but looking ahead to twenty twenty eight. It's almost a split down the middle. Both those votes were sort of forty nine and a half fifty and a half fifty one forty nine, And that tells you that right now in key areas, this party has an identity crisis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not radical states. I mean, we're talking about middle of Erica in many respects in terms of the political map. We're not talking about New York and California. Here, Wisconsin, Michigan. And I know there are pockets of a high Muslim vote, for example in Michigan, but this is unusual territory, Jonathan.
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Speaker 4: It is unusual territory, and the man Dani effect is not going to work. The same way that it did in New York in other parts of the country. That's purely down to the demographic of a particular state. But I think when you look at these midterms too, yes, the Democrats have a serious issue to fix, and that is trying to find their identity and work out what that is going forward. But the one who has the most to lose out of all of this, it's really President Trump. If he loses both the House and the Senate, that is arguably a disaster.
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Speaker 3: Zone for him.
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Speaker 4: It puts him in absolute blame duck territory, and it makes real questions to be posed about what does he actually then want to do with the last two years. Does he want to hang around being the big one, and how would he actually want to handle that environment if he loses one, most likely the House, or how is he going to move forward on that front? Because you can imagine that there will well be moves by the Democrats to have some sort of impeachment move in the House in some way, shape or form if they can. Now obviously that would be defeated in the Senate if they didn't win it. But he has a lot more to lose in these midterms than perhaps the Democrats too. Yes, they need to find their identity, they need to find a leader looking forward to twenty twenty eight, but it's President Trump who right now has most to lose.
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Speaker 2: We will watch it all closely. And thank you for being on the show. I don't often get the chance because your hours don't work with my showtime. It's great to have you in Australia and have that opportunity.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Jonathan.
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Speaker 2: All Right, before the break, have a look at this viral post of an Amazon delivery driver in the United States.
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Speaker 7: I just loved it.
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Speaker 2: I thought i'd have to show it to you tonight. We've talked to me here about flags. I'd love to see anyone respect a flag like that, a national flag, and you respect down flag blooded my inbox. My goodness, you're proud, aren't you. You are wonderful Australians. You love our flag and you love to fly it as much as I do. I've got images in my inbox from all over the country, suburbs, paddocks in the bush. It's some pretty amazing scenery, I must say, the beach scenes and the river scenes. Your beautifully kept front lawns and all the pets you've got in your snaps. I love it all. Keep it coming. It's the best part of my day to open those emails. I'll keep showing them. Let's see if we can get it all the way through it to Christmas. All right, after the break, the former is a Limist extremists warning about the rise of anti Semitism in Australia. All right, before I bring in my panel and get across a whole lot of other rishes, I promised you before I tell you how the Prime Minister ended up on that bush deep or deep bush or whatever it is. Podcast Nicky Osbourne's Infamous Melons podcast, We'll look at this.
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Speaker 7: Mark Bouros, who has his own podcast, has just.
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Speaker 2: Hosted a video about how on Earth she got the Prime Minister to go on her podcast.
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Speaker 7: Have a listen to this favarette.
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Speaker 2: I'm going a DM the PM and invite him on mym the DM the PM.
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Speaker 7: And I did, and he got back to meek straight away went sure, sounds like a lot of food.
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Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister since?
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Speaker 11: No, I haven't spoken to him since because I haven't known how to.
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Speaker 10: Phrase it, because I don't want to go was it as good for you as.
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Speaker 7: It was for me.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's smart all the way through. Joined me now on my panel on New twenty four contributed Kosher Garda and former Labor MP Michael Danby.
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, on so many levels.
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Speaker 2: The crassness, the crew, the smart, all of that put that to one side. But I've never known a political leader to respond to a text message from anyone in the media or anyone they don't know. It's risky beyond belief. But for that girl to slide into his DMS on his social media, yeah, the PM respond and the next thing you know, she's sitting in the living room at the lodge and they're talking all manner of smart and really unedifying content. Is this really where we're up to now in Australia?
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Speaker 12: Unprofessional, undisciplined. The other serious people and the socialist left who run the government, Mark Butler and Penny Wall we'd be giving him a private kick saying go through your press office, stop doing this kind of stuff. But it does worry me. I mean, his wife made a very credible speech about public health matter and he's off with you basically fluosies in his office, you know, just sort of sucking up to them, pretending that's the youth vote.
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Speaker 2: Unprofessional, undisciplined people say to me that this is the elbow evolved. Is this the sort of bloke he was in your experience? Yes, yeah, I think we're starting to really see the color of the guy's money. All right, let's go to some comments today. I mentioned a former Islamist fronting the Bondo will commiss. He is a Canadian who has been heavily involved in de radicalization. Have to listen to this warning. He's given Australia a warning, he says, about this critical grap gap in our deradicalization programs, speaking about social division in this country, which he says will be exploited if we do not deal with anti Semitism.
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Speaker 16: What we've seen also is that seventy percent of our cases show some kind of antisemitic influence. In other cases, the anti Semitism is just one of a number of hateful ideas that they may have, but it does anti Semitism appears to be the connective tissue across extremist ideologies.
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Speaker 2: All right, coacher, his name is Movement Shake. He's literally at the cold face to some of the cold face. Some of the worst of the worst. When a bloke like that gives us a warning like that, we have got to listen.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and good for him. I couldn't help but notice the absurdity that it takes reformed Islamist extremist to make that point. So there is a little bit absurdity there. But yes, he's making that point. He knows of what he speaks, given the perspective he comes from, anti Semitism, anti Christian, anti white, all of that, and we know the reasons for that. Step one is have unabated immigration from all sorts of different pockets of the world. Step two, remove all the incentives for simulation. Step three, in fact, pander to the different groups. That's what you get. That's the recipe of it. It's maybe amplified now because of what he's talking about, but the foundations for that have been in place for a long time.
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Speaker 7: And we know we talk a lot about the UK.
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Speaker 2: We see it obviously in the UK, but we are really now saying it inside the Democratic Party in the States.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and all these wins, we're just talking about it. In your previous segment of the extreme lefts It makes even AOC who's moderating now even though he believes her see more moderate because that's the way the momentum is. There is enough again of that electorate that's putting those people into office.
00:47:59
Speaker 7: And fun times had we.
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Speaker 2: Looked around the streets of our capital cities today and all these students out there protesting against Pauline Hansen, displaying their ignorance, their literacy, everything else was on display. Michael, but I was shocked about those reports. In relation to Sydney University this week, there was an academic there, Ben Fahima, connections with Iran money that we are spending in our universities, with nation states that don't want to do Australia any favors.
00:48:32
Speaker 7: What the heck's going on?
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Speaker 2: If our kids in high school are this bad and our universities are this bad, you know what hope is there?
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Speaker 12: Penny, You would have thought that Professor Scott would have noticed that the Iranian Intelligence Service was accused by Asia and proved by Asia to be involved in terrorism all over Australia. Professor Scott, I know you were a chairman of the ABC, but you've got to take these things seriously. That's the place where all of these barring of Jewish students from going into.
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Speaker 2: The head of Head of City UNI. It was VC the VC City UNI.
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry the old Polish saying the fish thinks from the head. You've got to have leaders who show leadership and you can't allow this kind of behavior. He should have had a bar on all academics from that university, like all responsible vice chancellors should on attending states that they are in a state of war that are antagonistic to Australia, particularly ones that have demonstrated their ability to interfere in Australian internal affairs.
00:49:39
Speaker 2: I've got a bit long, but i just want you to tell my viewers about the cost that we will spend for the head of the treaty in Victoria.
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Speaker 9: Four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's the going rate for the DEI complex. I'll use that broader term that's been propped up now for generations. Is taking a hit, but it is there, and these people would never function of that read in a normal free market if they actually was the years of actual companies that had shareholders and metrics that they had to respond to.
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Speaker 7: But it's salary, it's shocking salary. Leave it there, thank you both.
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Speaker 2: Of course, this is the voice in Victoria, and even though Victorians voted against it in a federal sense, they got it anyway.
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Speaker 7: I'll leave it there, have a terrific weekend. See your Monday. Parliament's back. Of course, here's Andrew
Speaker 1: Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight on kredline two point five billion. That's how much taxpayers you are going to shout out to keep the tommygo smelter afloat. And the PMS still under fire for crude commentary about the Japanese leader despite a bump in the polls. Andrew Bragg risks coalition in fighting with a speech yesterday full of politic thought, bubbles across a whole host of portfolios, and Goes Taylor forced to shut him down. Today, last ad shock departure of White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt. What does this mean for the Trump administration just a few months out from the midterms, and astounding scenes where else but in Melbourne of high school kids protesting against Pauline Hansen. A TGV ignorance on display was phenomenal, but they went after our own reporter Georgie Dickerson.
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Speaker 3: Aimless sentiment to where cazer.
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Speaker 4: Is, don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy kids protest seem pretty stupid commentary, ignorant commentary. I'll get to that at the moment, but first, as much as he mightn't wish it otherwise. In the Parliament today, the Prime Minister was still dogged by his crew commentary about his Japanese counterpart. Here's Opposition Leader Angus Taylor kicking off. At the top of question time.
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Speaker 5: This morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about his classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again he refused to give a straight answer. To save him from embarrassment, the new South Wales Premier stepped in and shut down the question why won't the Prime Minister Manner stop hiding behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his grubby behavior?
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Speaker 6: And I direct into the comments of the Ambassador of Japan, who's stated very clearly the dinner hosted by Prime Minister Albanezi during the Prime Minister's visit to Australia this May was held in a very relaxed atmosphere and we believe it helped build a personal trust relationship between the two leaders. Indeed it did. We have a very good relationship with Japan and I look forward to continuing to work with our friends on economic issues as well as interests of peace and security and prosperity in our region.
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Speaker 2: Now I chose to play the Prime Minister's response in full tonight because I wanted you to see that there was not even anything remotely resembling an apology to Japan's first ever female leader. And then I want to play you something that no one should miss after that question from the opposition leader, Well, the government then gets to ask itself a question. Asking yourself a question in parliament, we call that O Dorothy Dixon.
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Speaker 7: So with the Prime Minister on the.
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Speaker 2: Ropes about the melon comments and the disrespect he showed Sono Takachi, he showed Japan, even the disrespect shown to Carlie Minogue and his own wife over those shagging comments. Have a listen to VI from one of the labor backbitch was.
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Speaker 8: The Albanezy labor government working to prevent family, sexual and domestic violence, improve early intervention and make sure women and children can access support they need free from violence.
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Speaker 7: How more shameless can this bloke get?
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Speaker 2: The man who makes smutty, crude jokes about women now wants to lecture the nation about treating women and girls with respect. Well done on the opposition heading back with this follow up question. A month before he made sexist remarks about the Prime Minister of Japan on the Bushjeep podcast. The Prime Minister did post this comment online. No matter who's support in politics, it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify, belittle or offend women. So why won't the Prime Minister stop hiding behind his female front benches and the new South Wales Premier and take responsibility for his disrespectful behavior. Good on y Thigh McKenzie for calling it out, and shame on every one of those labor women running a protection racket for the Prime minister.
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Speaker 7: The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot.
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Speaker 2: Trying to perpetuate this ridiculous, this ridiculous thing.
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Speaker 9: The remarks from the Prime Minister have been misinterpreted.
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Speaker 7: He has enormous respect for women.
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Speaker 10: Those opposite who have engaged, who are so desperate to score, so desperate to score political points that they are confecting a diplomatic issue.
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Speaker 2: All of you women, His sheerler shields you, diminish, all of us making excuses for grubby innuendo filmed from the couch at the lodge instead of calling it out now, not so, Chris Mins. Some journalists today said that Min's defended alban Easy at the press conference they held together today in the Hunter Valley. Mins did not. Chris Mins did not. He spoke up to change the topic. But if you listen carefully, he didn't make excuses, unlike the labor women for smart that just can't be defended.
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Speaker 7: Here's a clearly.
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Speaker 2: Under pressure and frustrated Prime minister today and then that intervention from Premier Mins.
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Speaker 6: I've answered this question many times. The fact is, well, the fact is, the fact is that the Japanese Prime Minister and I have a very good relationship the Japanese. The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear statements indeed about how warm our dinner was, and it was indeed, it was fair.
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Speaker 11: Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today.
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Speaker 12: Witnestly, this is the.
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Speaker 11: Biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: You'll recall last night I said this about Min's when it comes to integrity the left of frauds. I couldn't imagine Peter Malinowskis or Chris Min's behaving as the Prime Minister did in that low rent podcast. I couldn't imagine Kim Beasley entertaining a question about shagging Kylie.
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Speaker 7: Mino, I just can't.
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Speaker 2: Look if your emails to me today are any indication of many of you agree with those comments. Almost all of you say just how embarrassed you are that almin Easy represents us and our country on the world stage. And I agree with you, but questions of character to one side. We'll come back to this. Let's get into the reason why Min's was there with Alban Easy this morning in the Hunter Valley.
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Speaker 6: It is in our national interest to have an economy that has manufacturing that is not dependent upon something somewhere else occurring, because we know that can lead to disruption.
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Speaker 11: It's a complicated deal. It was not straightforward. You've got the federal government, the state government alongside Tommygo. We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past a media release or a meeting like this, but decades into the future.
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Speaker 2: Today's announcement and risky package for tom Ago are whopping two point five billion dollars to bail out a smelter and keep heavy industry in this country. And it's not government money. There's no such thing as government money.
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Speaker 7: This is your money.
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Speaker 2: It's your money bailing out Rio Tinto because without the cash that leave Australia and go and set up in a country where power prices are cheaper. That's the reality, and who can blame them? We have done this to ourselves. Australia is only in this position because we've all drunk the green energy cool aated have gone from being a country rich with God given natural resources that we used to use like colon gas, to one fast drowning and dead and energy insecurity. Because we think Chinese wind turbines and pels solar panels make more sense, Well they don't and they never will not when the coal and gas that we won't use here is shipped off to China and India for them to use anyway, how's that saving the planet? It's not, you know that it's powering their economy. It's making China and India richer, but doing nothing for the environment. It takes China just twelve days to produce the same amount of carbon emissions that we in Australia produce in a whole twelve months. We are one percent of global emission. But somehow we think we can change the weather here or by ourselves. We just have to go back to the dark, dark ages, junk jobs and make ourselves poorer as a result. Now, years ago, business writer Terry mccran warned that net zero policies were an economic suicide note and he was right. At today's announcement, alongside Albanezy and Chris Mins was Energy Minister Chris Bowen. I mean it's like the arsonist standing there at the fire brigade, isn't it. I mean, who does alban Easy and Bowen think they are kidding? We all know that the only reason tom Ago needs this bailout is because of labour's net zero madness.
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Speaker 5: This is a two and a half billion dollar admission of failure on energy policy in this country. Why are we paying this because we've butchered our energy system.
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Speaker 7: That's why.
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Speaker 5: Because when we had Caulfi power stations, Tommogo was never asking us for money.
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Speaker 7: Was it part of today's bailout? I should add?
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Speaker 2: It is about labor trying to hold off a push by one nation into those Hunter Valley coal mining seats. Now there's a state election in Victoria, of course, in November, but there's also one in New South Wales in March, and labor are worried, so they are using the two point five billion announced today to shore up workers' jobs and votes using your money. If you work it out, that bailout equates to about two million dollars per worker's job. Two million per job. You are getting your private health insurance rebate taken off you. You're being slugged with new taxes so that labor can spend two million dollars per job two point five billion overall to save this smelter and save labor votes in labour seats. Honestly, almost every night I say to myself, I don't think he can get him bad, and he worse.
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Speaker 7: I don't think Australia can.
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Speaker 2: Slip even further down a slide to where nowhere land.
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Speaker 7: And then we do.
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Speaker 2: It gets worse, It gets worse every night. I don't think I've ever seen a government this bad on so many levels, but here we are. And if I feel like that, I suspect you do too. All Right, one week of a sitting, We've got another week next week.
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Speaker 7: Of course, the politicians they.
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Speaker 2: All get out of town on your dime on the planes for the weekend. We'll get the lattice out of camera, though, with the headlines. Political reporter Rubon spargo Good Evening.
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Speaker 3: The Opposition leader is warning his shadow Housing minister to stick to Coalition policy after he sparked an internal fight over migration. Andrew Bragg angered National zmps by suggesting the number of backpackers coming to Australia should be cut.
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Speaker 5: Andrew expressed some of the his personal views yesterday. I made clear to him that his job is to experience them, or can I finish that his job is to express the views of the coalition.
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor insists net overseas migration will ultimately be determined by housing supply. The federal and New South Wales governments have struck a deal to save the Tommago aluminium smelter from imminent closure. The agreement will secure longer term renewable power for the facility at a cost of taxpayers of two and a half billion dollars.
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Speaker 11: We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past a media release or a meeting like this, but decades into the future.
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Speaker 3: Workers are welcoming the deal after months of negotiations. The New South Wales Premier has stepped in to defend the Prime Minister over his infamous podcast appearance I've talked.
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Speaker 6: To you today, just Mahant.
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Speaker 11: This is the biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we just talk about it for five minutes.
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Speaker 3: It was Anthony Abernzi's first press conference since returning from holidays.
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Speaker 2: I'll make it clear he did not defend the Prime Minister. He deflected the question a very different thing. Let's get into the headlines now. I've got a panel a lot to talk about. Joining me now in News twenty four host James Morrow and of course another host on Sunday Night Lover Show, Jamie Rogers.
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Speaker 7: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I'll get in James to the economic detail of this bay. Lad in a moment with Ross Greenwood. But politically this says to me that labor and New South Wales is spooked by one nation.
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Speaker 7: This deal is as much about.
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Speaker 2: Votes in the Hunter and you know one nation got close to taking that seat of Hunter off Joel Fitzgibbon when he was an MP, as it is about sovereign manufacturing.
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's more than about the jobs and about the Hunter than it is about the sovereign manufacturing. I mean, this is a government that talks a big game about manufacturing, Peter was there future Made in Australia, slush funds and everything else. But you know, we've seen what this government is all about. It's all about simply buying votes in key constituencies with your money. That's exactly what's happening here. You worked it out in your editorial two two and a half million dollars per job. And the language, the language that they used in that press conference, particularly when Premier Mins you know, jumped on the grenade for elbow there to help him out and deflect that question, was all about you know, this is the biggest announcement for the Hunter. It wasn't the biggest announcement for Australia's sovereign manufacturing capability. The tell is in the language. This was a campaign.
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Speaker 7: Stop, you're not wrong.
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Speaker 2: And of course it was also the first time we've had the Prime Minister in front of journalists in two weeks.
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Speaker 7: He's very good at this.
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Speaker 2: It gets the sort of headwind and he hides away. He puts his head under the desk, key does staged events, but he avoids top questions. He couldn't hide today, are you right? That's a good one. On the grenade went Chris Min's, as Matt Canavan said, is about the only adult in the room but Jamie all week and we saw it aget in the chamber today. All week he's been dogged by the Japanese comments, sorry, the comments about the Japanese Prime Minister. What really gets under my skin is all these Labor women deflecting and defending that crude and embarrassing podcast. I mean, where is their spine on this stuff?
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Speaker 7: Jamie? Just what I'm Peter.
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Speaker 10: They have all lost their credibility when it comes to talking anything about women. And aren't they the party that's supposed to be all about women and supporting women or where are they? This is the time that they need to be standing up and actually showing women that they do have their back. What we have seen repeatedly from this Labor government is to shear hypocrisy when it comes to women that aren't on the left. If you don't believe in their side of politics, well you're not worth defending. We saw it happen with Gina rein Hart and the ABC issue. But let's not forget how quick all of the Labor politicians, including the Prime Minister, were to come out and condemn that ditch the witch campaign around Jacinterer Allen. But then when it comes to the Japanese Prime minister, who is a conservative, Oh, nothing to see here. When it comes to Gena rein Hart, there's silence and all of them saying that they didn't watch that footage on the ABC. It's just sheer hypocrisy on display. I think it's incredibly disappointing and they've now lost all their credibility and we should be reminding voters this going into the next election.
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Speaker 2: Well, I won't let it rest on make sure right, no, you are, they have no leg just down on when it comes to commentary about women in particularly the Liberal Party and women, let's.
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Speaker 7: Go to migration. Yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Of course we touched on this last night with the Angus Taylor. A speech by Andrew Bragg at the Press Club. He went way beyond his policy rebuilt. He made announcements in relation or I guess prognostications, if I can call them that, because they're not official announcements. He's not the official minister and is certainly not the leader of the opposition, but he made a statement that about one eighty thousand should be where the coalition lands in terms of the net overseas migration number. But James, this really rankled with the Nationals have a listen.
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Speaker 13: As leader of the Nationals Party, we will not be changing, will not be seeking chasseeing changes to working holiday visa makers, because that's not the reason why we've had the surgeon. Migration, often colloquially referred to backpackers, are not taking a house in a major city away from others that could be using it.
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Speaker 5: I look, Andrew expressed some of his personal views yesterday. I made clear to him that his job is to experience them, or can I finish that his job is to express the views of the coalition and the senior team of which he is a member.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, ticked off publicly there, of course by leader.
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Speaker 2: I know that there's been shadow ministers who have spoken to him personally.
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Speaker 7: And I say Bragg by name, Bragg.
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Speaker 2: By nature, James, but there's a not a lot he's got.
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Speaker 7: To brag about.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bragg's behind the disastrous era of Susan Lee's liberal leader.
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Speaker 7: We all know how that ended.
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Speaker 2: I think he should just sit down, stick to his knitting and perhaps not get into everybody else's policy turf.
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Speaker 1: Well, this was such a piece of freelancing, Peter. But you know, there's so much unpack with this here. I want to know, did Angus Taylor's office see the speech before he went to deliver it. I mean, it just seems remarkable to me that he would go and freelance like this, come up with a number one hundred and eighty thousand that's only twenty percent lower than where Labor's targets, and we know they're going to overshoot him by a lot of two hundred and twenty five by twenty seven twenty eight. Is this whole idea? It was so politically cynical there to remind everybody that there's divisions in the coalition about migration by you know, talking about the backpackers and the working holidaymakers and all of that who the agricultural sector relies on. Everybody knows those aren't the people we are concerned about. I mean, maybe if you've got to clean up the mess on New Year's Day at Cougie or Branti, that's about it. The trouble the backpackers cause, not the trouble in the housing market, not all the tertiary education mills that we have. Everybody knows where the problem is that, ain't it. This was a really really underhanded and disgraceful performance, I thought, And you know, I just don't know that Angus Taylor has done enough to pull him into line.
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Speaker 7: I agree with you there.
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Speaker 2: I think this has got a lot to do with faction of politics, sinewsath Wales, and I don't think this will be the end of it. I think brags absolutely on notice and Angus is due to have a race shuffle he hasn't had. And yet I know exactly where I reshuffle Andrew Bragg to. Let's go to the rallies across the nation, kids who should be in school. It's not as though Australia's leading the international league tables at all. It's anything but. But they're out protesting against one nation. Have a look at what happened to our own reporter, Georgie Dickerson in Melbourne in les.
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Speaker 14: Sentiments to where Cazer is and dot.
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Speaker 9: Give it back, give it back, give it back, give.
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Speaker 7: It back, give.
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Speaker 14: It She saw the microphone.
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Speaker 10: We had to actually just chase that protester through the packed crowd.
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Speaker 11: They actually put it inside a cools bag and sprints it off with our microphone.
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Speaker 2: I looked at a lot of the Rushes coming in today on this Jamie, and you know kids screaming fascism. Most of them could spell fascism talking about President Pauline Hansen. Well, kids, that's not how democracy works. We don't have a president as our head of state. I would love to see them sit in class. I'd love to see them learn to debate ideas, disagree with civility.
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Speaker 7: You're a mum, Jamie.
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Speaker 2: You must look at that and think what the heck is happening with kids in Australia. Parents too, they bear responsibility here, but also our education system.
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Speaker 10: Your spot on Peter. All week when we've been talking about the lead up to these protests, I really wanted the schools to step in and also the government, I mean Marine Feruki was signing a pass to give students the day off school. I think what we should have been encouraging is for the students to sit in the classroom and actually analyze one nation's policies and actually talk to each other about what is it that I do like or I don't like and actually start to learn how to think for yourself, not be told what to think. And this is what's getting really concerning about the education system is that children are being forced and told about a certain ideology and then they are absolutely just running with it. And we saw that on display today. A lot of them couldn't explain exactly what it is about Pauline Hanson that they didn't like. I find it really, really, really distressing, and I often refer back to a quote of Abraham Lincoln that said, what is taught and learned in the classrooms today is what will be policy in the future. So it makes me worried about where our country is going when we look at these young kids who are going so far to the left, which of course is fine, but they're still so young. And also, why wouldn't you do a protest on a Sunday? I reckon a lot of those kids there were just trying to get the day off. But it is also a breeding ground for being able to get the left radicalization in youngsters.
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Speaker 2: You know, James, When I was at school in the United States, I did a subject called civil politics and you sat there in year ten I think it was a year eleven equivalent in Australia at least, and you learn about your system of government. In that case, obviously the American system of government. You learned about your democracy warts and all, and you had these sorts of debates and everyone had to do it to finish and get your high school diploma. I think this is missing in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely missing. We've had lots of reports to the state of Civics education in this country is absolutely dire. The one thing I'm harmed by is that the numbers were very small compared to previous school strakes. So you know, I think maybe this is a bit of a fail for the organizers.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe it is.
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Speaker 2: But let's put it back in the curriculum and get some of the other jug out. I'll leave it there, look forward to both your programs you tomorrow night, James, and of course you on Sunday, Jamie.
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Speaker 7: Right before the break.
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Speaker 2: This is a bit of a sign, a straw in the wind. Let's not get too head of ourselves here, but it's a sign to me that the Liberal Party might be getting serious at fighting back on labor and a bit more agile.
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Speaker 7: To have a look.
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Speaker 2: At this ad that's just been released taking the Prime Minister to task for his mounting lies.
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Speaker 3: You can only lie to people once.
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Speaker 7: You can only do it once.
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Speaker 6: Only once?
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Speaker 11: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and capital gains?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 6: How hard is it for the fiftieth time?
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Speaker 9: Were those statements promises?
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Speaker 13: What they were?
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Speaker 3: Statements?
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Speaker 6: And we have changed our position?
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Speaker 3: But bullshit?
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Speaker 6: People got a couple of melons she brought to she brought too as you do?
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Speaker 15: You know I stepped off the stage.
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Speaker 6: I didn't fall over on my backside.
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Speaker 7: I stumbled, that's what happened.
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Speaker 5: How sure are you that that two hundred and seventy five is robust?
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Speaker 12: Well, I don't think.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 6: I know because we have done the modeling.
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Speaker 9: Do you stand by that modeling?
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Speaker 1: It's reputexas modeling.
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Speaker 6: I've always been a man of my word.
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Speaker 7: Authorized by l follow Liberal Canberra. There you go. Pretty powerful, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: And that's gone far and wide on social media this afternoon, right after the bragg Ross Greenwood, we'll look into that announcements day in relation to tome Ago. But it's the tip of the iceberg. We'll get into the other bailouts as well, and the arsonist Chris Bowen at the fire I tell you what, welcome back. We're going to check in with our News twenty four White House correspondent for his assessment of the shock news today that Caroline Leavitt and I'm a huge fan of stepping down as official White House Press secretary. But also in some breaking news, we now know how Nikki Osborne, the podcaster, a deep Bush podcaster who did that interview with the Prime Minister got hold of him and got in his diary and into the front room there at the lodge.
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Speaker 7: I'll have that for you in the moment. It shocks me, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: But let's go now to the bailout announced today by the federal New South Wales governments and it's it's yet another bailout in a long line of bailouts for large scale manufacturing in Australia.
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Speaker 7: Have a look at the screen.
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Speaker 2: The bailouts total now seven point seven billion dollars. That's your money that we're wasting because labor is persisting with a whole lot of green policies designed to drive these manufacturers broke and send them off shore. Joining us now on New twenty fourths, Business editor Ross G. Greenwood, who I suspect is as cranky as I am about this colossal waste of money. It's all borrowed money too, I might add, we're borrowing money left, right and center in this country. But that's two million per job ross.
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Speaker 15: It's a lot of money per job, there's no doubt. But he's the second and important part about this. Rio Tinto is a company that is worth on our stock market two hundred and thirty seven billion dollar and yet it's gone to the government not once but twice to get bailed out from these aluminum smelters.
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Speaker 1: One you saw there is.
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Speaker 15: Quite clearly Tomigo, which is the biggest electricity user in New South Wales that uses up to twelve percent of the total electricity that's generated in New South Wales. The other one is the Boin smelter and Rio Tido owns seventy three percent of that. So you might ask why is it that the government would bail out one of the wealthiest mining companies in the world. Well, the reason is because these companies have threatened to close down these smelters and move elsewhere. Now, aluminium, I've got to tell you is what people sometimes call solid electricity, and so the reason why these smelters are run economic. Every one of those on the screen there near star which is Port Pirie and Tasmania mount Either. Of course, copper whale of steel works is a basket case and arguably could and should have been closed. But the reality is in the aluminium smelters in particular, they need their core ingredient, which makes up about thirty to forty percent of their cost, is electricity. And the reason why they were started here in Australia in the first place is because we had plentiful and cheap electricity, and so as a result of this, as soon as electricity prices have started the rise, as we've had the rollout of renewables, every one of these managers of these aluminium smelters has screamed a government for a decade and basically said, hey, listen, you've got to find a way to give us cheap, reliable base load power because this intermittent power which is coming from the renewables is not good enough to be able to run these smelters. And so their cost of electricity have risen on average by around fifty percent in the past ten years, which makes these smelters uneconomic except for the case when government, state and federal have to effectively bail them out. It's not about the thousand jobs. It's just about the fact that these smelters and the money from Riotinto and other giant miners will pick it self up and go somewhere else in the world. And that is not good for Australia at all.
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Speaker 2: And one I want Painple to understand too, with these heavy industries in Australia, the risk they leave is the national security risk should they go.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of these processes, as it was explained to me in government, in policy sense, a military grade steel is different than a lot of the still that we might import from places like Indonesia and in part in China. So we want that sovereign manufacturing capability of military grade steel on shore. We need to keep these products here like smelters as well all the mining that we possibly can. The world is an uncertain place. So yes, there's a balance sheet risk, absolutely ross, but there's a national security risk if they leave. Hence there is a national security argument and this would have been discussed around the cabinet table believe me, as to why the two and a half billion dollars today should be paid. But what angers me and I think angers every Australian watching this tonight is that the arsonist is there for the announcement. I mean, the reason we're in this mess is Chris Bowen, the arsonist is there as the five brigades trying to put out the fire.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, that's that staggered me.
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Speaker 15: I've got to say so to. I've seen the Industry Minister Tim Ayirs there today absolutely one hundred percent. So I've seen Chris Min's, the new South Wales Premier, who was a reluctant participant in this, I'll say because remember at the very beginning, this was a commitment by the Prime Minister went to those workers, one thousand workers and said I've got dull back, I will actually make certain that this does not collapse. And so as a result, Chris men said, well, you made the announcement, you put most of the money in, and of course the Fed said well no, no, And so there's been friction between the New South Wales government and the federal government over who should pay for the bailout of Tomago. Now, as it turns out, they've had to do separate deals and I think there might be announcements about GST redistribution coming in the next little while. I'll be interested to watch that because that might be the quid pro quo when you say Wales gets something back, particularly from Western Australia. But you know the point is to see Chris Bowen's standing there. Well, you know this was really all about the actual philosophical commitment to renewable energy that really caused these industries to become uneconomic in Australia. And this is not what we want in Australia. We want dynamic, vibrant, competitive businesses here in Australia that stand on their own to feed, that don't need government plailouts. That's what this country needs, not government simply turning up the whole time with a spare billion dollars of your taxpayer dollars to simply prop them up.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to something, Chris Ross now that Greg Sheridan wrote The Australian during the week because I think this is a this is an unhappy collision of foreign policy and economics. He wrote that no country more thoroughly practices in places greater value on courtesy, politeness, dignity, face and respect than Japan. Now you deal with business, I know you've dealt with business in Japan as well, but you deal with Australian companies who put themselves on the front foot with Japan who try and address all of these very localized cultural aspects of doing business and doing it well in Japan. How do you think the Australian businesses would be walking around the streets of Tokyo this week? How are businesses looking at that relationship and looking at the Prime Minister?
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Speaker 15: Well, think about it on a couple of levels. Number one is not just the way in which Japanese people go about their business. Now Again, Japanese people are not impolite people, so they will say nothing about this, but they will never forget. That's another important thing. The second part about this is also bear in mind that this government is already under a big question mark by the Japanese government, which has actually committed through its companies, many tens of billions of to Australian gas export businesses, particularly in that Gladstone region. Now they expect to have that gas there for their own sovereign security. And the real issue right now for Japan is that the government, that is, the Albanese government has said it's going to take twenty percent of all foreign gas it's destined for places such as Japan and use it for the domestic gas industry simply because guess what, we can't or have the wherewithal to go and find more gas for ourselves, despite the fact that we know it's there, we can't approve the developments to get that gas out from under our own feet. And this is where again, places such as Japan, having made commitments knowing that that gas was supposed to be basically taken directly to them over a very long period of time to create their own nations more security, to double cross on that is seen again to be a fundamental betrayal. So even more, I suggest than the melon situation, is that gas situation is equally seen to be a betrayal of trust in the Australian government.
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Speaker 2: And the Prime Minister ending over backwards for Beijing at every opportunity. Also, I know has residence in Tokyo.
00:34:15
Speaker 7: I'll leave it there.
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Speaker 2: Ross, thank you for your time. After the break, she's a new mum now to two little children. Well today she resigns. So how much do we read into the departure of White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt plus the five for the soul of the Democrats? The rise of the radical left. So are the inmates now in charge of the asylum? Welcome back Stilllicalm the former Islamist fanatic who's now sounding the alarm about the social fabric of Australia. This is at the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism. The First Shop News overnight. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt, as I said I'm a huge fan, has resigned and would finish her role at the end of the month. She said in a statement that the true is since returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter, I have felt it in my heart that I cannot be the best mom mum to the best mum that two young children deserve, and that's why I've ultimately made the bittersweet decision to depart the White House and embark on a new chapter in my life. Joy mean now to discuss this and more, and I'm pleased to say he's in Australia. Our Washington correspondent New twenty four is Jonathan Kursley. Well, John, I know what these jobs are like and compared to working for an Australian Prime minister, it would be absolutely next level over where you normally are, so how do you judge this departure. She has got two little ones, I think two under the age of two. It can absolutely be all about the family, but is it more than that.
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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get some answers over this over the next little while. The big thing for me looking at this is the timing. You are just a matter of a couple of months out from arguably the most important off your elections for quite some time off your elections. Midtim elect that will shape the final two years of Donald Trump's legacy as president forty seven and the final two years of his career as a president. It would be a monumental moment. She was the youngest ever White House Press secretary, and no disrespect obviously Peter did the job you did in a previous lifetime. But this is a highly pressured one of the most highly pressured pr jobs in the world, being the voice of the President of the United States of America. She was combative, but also somebody who was widely seen as perhaps Donald Trump's best publicity weapon, and she was utilized often with great effect. Yes, there would be battles within the White House Press Corps and within the press call more broadly. That is kind of par for the course in the nature of the beast, that is political circles, particularly when you're dealing in politics on this sort of magnitude, I always found a pleasure to deal with. She was always fascinated by issues in Australia's on backyard, particularly when it came to China. But yes, going back to your question, Peter, I think the real question I have in my mind is the timing around all of this. Yes, she's saying it's because she wants to go and be a better mother to her children. She had a child during the presidential election campaign twenty twenty four one, just a matter of three months or so ago. Yes, obviously she is a young mother who wants to go and say she wants to go and do that. But the timing raises significant questions given she is obviously somebody who has great political ambition and now great political experience as well.
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Speaker 2: We have no other job like it in Australia. We don't have anyone speak for our leaders. Our leaders front the camera and take a lot more questions, and we see in many places overseas, not just the United States. I think she's smart as a whip. I think working for any presidents hard, let alone this president, because not only is you out there defending him, he's on Twitter perhaps going in another direction right when you're on your feet talking at the lectern. So, given how good she was, is this only be big shoes to feel?
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Speaker 7: Is he going to have.
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Speaker 2: A demonstrable loss without her there in the press room?
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Speaker 4: There's no denying for the president it's a big loss. Caroline Levitt was always somebody who seemed across her brief and would often respond with if she didn't have the answer, while I will go and try and find it for you. Yes, she was combat even on the front foot, and she was a loyal defender of the president. But there is no denying that this is a big role for the president to now fill. And the question is where is he going to go to. We've seen the likes of Stephen Miller being asked today does he want to do it? Does he know people around it, who around him who would want.
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Speaker 1: To do it?
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Speaker 4: And it is going to be crucially important. Susie Wild's the chief of staff to the President of the United States, arguably one of the best political operators at Washington, DC, has seen for quite some time. Has a very big question to ask, and that is what sort of person do they need in the now, not just for the next six months, because the last thing and tromp more stuff to go and do is do it another sort of Scaramouchi and find somebody after eleven days. What they need to do now is find somebody who can fill the role, not just for the now, but for the next two years.
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Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about the midterms. I think Australians now are getting their head around this war inside the Democrats, the rise of the socialist left. I would have thought the Democrats were already along that path, but this is an even more radical beast inside the party. David Crowley, a more mainstream Democrat, just narrowly beating a Democratic Socialist in Francesca Wong in Wisconsin.
00:39:35
Speaker 7: Give me your sense of things.
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Speaker 4: Francesco Holng's defeat narrow was widely seen as being a surprise. It doesn't surprise me. She lost that election campaign, the Wisconsin governor's Democratic primary race, and the interesting thing there is it was very tight. Yes, she had her issues around past comments about wanting to cancel off Thanksgiving, issues that dogged her throughout the campaign, and ultimately it was her answers to questions I think that led to her not getting over the line. But the real interesting takeaway from this, Peter, is the real narrow margin we saw in that race. Look at the real narrow margin that we saw in the Michigan Senate primary last week with abdullel said, what that is telling you is that in key crucial states that Democrats need to be a united front, not just for the midterms, but looking ahead to twenty twenty eight. It's almost a split down the middle. Both those votes were sort of forty nine and a half fifty and a half fifty one forty nine, And that tells you that right now in key areas, this party has an identity crisis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not radical states. I mean, we're talking about middle of Erica in many respects in terms of the political map. We're not talking about New York and California. Here, Wisconsin, Michigan. And I know there are pockets of a high Muslim vote, for example in Michigan, but this is unusual territory, Jonathan.
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Speaker 4: It is unusual territory, and the man Dani effect is not going to work. The same way that it did in New York in other parts of the country. That's purely down to the demographic of a particular state. But I think when you look at these midterms too, yes, the Democrats have a serious issue to fix, and that is trying to find their identity and work out what that is going forward. But the one who has the most to lose out of all of this, it's really President Trump. If he loses both the House and the Senate, that is arguably a disaster.
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Speaker 3: Zone for him.
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Speaker 4: It puts him in absolute blame duck territory, and it makes real questions to be posed about what does he actually then want to do with the last two years. Does he want to hang around being the big one, and how would he actually want to handle that environment if he loses one, most likely the House, or how is he going to move forward on that front? Because you can imagine that there will well be moves by the Democrats to have some sort of impeachment move in the House in some way, shape or form if they can. Now obviously that would be defeated in the Senate if they didn't win it. But he has a lot more to lose in these midterms than perhaps the Democrats too. Yes, they need to find their identity, they need to find a leader looking forward to twenty twenty eight, but it's President Trump who right now has most to lose.
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Speaker 2: We will watch it all closely. And thank you for being on the show. I don't often get the chance because your hours don't work with my showtime. It's great to have you in Australia and have that opportunity.
00:42:21
Speaker 7: Thank you, Jonathan.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: All Right, before the break, have a look at this viral post of an Amazon delivery driver in the United States.
00:42:49
Speaker 7: I just loved it.
00:42:50
Speaker 2: I thought i'd have to show it to you tonight. We've talked to me here about flags. I'd love to see anyone respect a flag like that, a national flag, and you respect down flag blooded my inbox. My goodness, you're proud, aren't you. You are wonderful Australians. You love our flag and you love to fly it as much as I do. I've got images in my inbox from all over the country, suburbs, paddocks in the bush. It's some pretty amazing scenery, I must say, the beach scenes and the river scenes. Your beautifully kept front lawns and all the pets you've got in your snaps. I love it all. Keep it coming. It's the best part of my day to open those emails. I'll keep showing them. Let's see if we can get it all the way through it to Christmas. All right, after the break, the former is a Limist extremists warning about the rise of anti Semitism in Australia. All right, before I bring in my panel and get across a whole lot of other rishes, I promised you before I tell you how the Prime Minister ended up on that bush deep or deep bush or whatever it is. Podcast Nicky Osbourne's Infamous Melons podcast, We'll look at this.
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Speaker 7: Mark Bouros, who has his own podcast, has just.
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Speaker 2: Hosted a video about how on Earth she got the Prime Minister to go on her podcast.
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Speaker 7: Have a listen to this favarette.
00:44:08
Speaker 2: I'm going a DM the PM and invite him on mym the DM the PM.
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Speaker 7: And I did, and he got back to meek straight away went sure, sounds like a lot of food.
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Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister since?
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Speaker 11: No, I haven't spoken to him since because I haven't known how to.
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Speaker 10: Phrase it, because I don't want to go was it as good for you as.
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Speaker 7: It was for me.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's smart all the way through. Joined me now on my panel on New twenty four contributed Kosher Garda and former Labor MP Michael Danby.
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, on so many levels.
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Speaker 2: The crassness, the crew, the smart, all of that put that to one side. But I've never known a political leader to respond to a text message from anyone in the media or anyone they don't know. It's risky beyond belief. But for that girl to slide into his DMS on his social media, yeah, the PM respond and the next thing you know, she's sitting in the living room at the lodge and they're talking all manner of smart and really unedifying content. Is this really where we're up to now in Australia?
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Speaker 12: Unprofessional, undisciplined. The other serious people and the socialist left who run the government, Mark Butler and Penny Wall we'd be giving him a private kick saying go through your press office, stop doing this kind of stuff. But it does worry me. I mean, his wife made a very credible speech about public health matter and he's off with you basically fluosies in his office, you know, just sort of sucking up to them, pretending that's the youth vote.
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Speaker 2: Unprofessional, undisciplined people say to me that this is the elbow evolved. Is this the sort of bloke he was in your experience? Yes, yeah, I think we're starting to really see the color of the guy's money. All right, let's go to some comments today. I mentioned a former Islamist fronting the Bondo will commiss. He is a Canadian who has been heavily involved in de radicalization. Have to listen to this warning. He's given Australia a warning, he says, about this critical grap gap in our deradicalization programs, speaking about social division in this country, which he says will be exploited if we do not deal with anti Semitism.
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Speaker 16: What we've seen also is that seventy percent of our cases show some kind of antisemitic influence. In other cases, the anti Semitism is just one of a number of hateful ideas that they may have, but it does anti Semitism appears to be the connective tissue across extremist ideologies.
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Speaker 2: All right, coacher, his name is Movement Shake. He's literally at the cold face to some of the cold face. Some of the worst of the worst. When a bloke like that gives us a warning like that, we have got to listen.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and good for him. I couldn't help but notice the absurdity that it takes reformed Islamist extremist to make that point. So there is a little bit absurdity there. But yes, he's making that point. He knows of what he speaks, given the perspective he comes from, anti Semitism, anti Christian, anti white, all of that, and we know the reasons for that. Step one is have unabated immigration from all sorts of different pockets of the world. Step two, remove all the incentives for simulation. Step three, in fact, pander to the different groups. That's what you get. That's the recipe of it. It's maybe amplified now because of what he's talking about, but the foundations for that have been in place for a long time.
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Speaker 7: And we know we talk a lot about the UK.
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Speaker 2: We see it obviously in the UK, but we are really now saying it inside the Democratic Party in the States.
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Speaker 9: Yes, and all these wins, we're just talking about it. In your previous segment of the extreme lefts It makes even AOC who's moderating now even though he believes her see more moderate because that's the way the momentum is. There is enough again of that electorate that's putting those people into office.
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Speaker 7: And fun times had we.
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Speaker 2: Looked around the streets of our capital cities today and all these students out there protesting against Pauline Hansen, displaying their ignorance, their literacy, everything else was on display. Michael, but I was shocked about those reports. In relation to Sydney University this week, there was an academic there, Ben Fahima, connections with Iran money that we are spending in our universities, with nation states that don't want to do Australia any favors.
00:48:32
Speaker 7: What the heck's going on?
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Speaker 2: If our kids in high school are this bad and our universities are this bad, you know what hope is there?
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Speaker 12: Penny, You would have thought that Professor Scott would have noticed that the Iranian Intelligence Service was accused by Asia and proved by Asia to be involved in terrorism all over Australia. Professor Scott, I know you were a chairman of the ABC, but you've got to take these things seriously. That's the place where all of these barring of Jewish students from going into.
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Speaker 2: The head of Head of City UNI. It was VC the VC City UNI.
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry the old Polish saying the fish thinks from the head. You've got to have leaders who show leadership and you can't allow this kind of behavior. He should have had a bar on all academics from that university, like all responsible vice chancellors should on attending states that they are in a state of war that are antagonistic to Australia, particularly ones that have demonstrated their ability to interfere in Australian internal affairs.
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Speaker 2: I've got a bit long, but i just want you to tell my viewers about the cost that we will spend for the head of the treaty in Victoria.
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Speaker 9: Four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's the going rate for the DEI complex. I'll use that broader term that's been propped up now for generations. Is taking a hit, but it is there, and these people would never function of that read in a normal free market if they actually was the years of actual companies that had shareholders and metrics that they had to respond to.
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Speaker 7: But it's salary, it's shocking salary. Leave it there, thank you both.
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Speaker 2: Of course, this is the voice in Victoria, and even though Victorians voted against it in a federal sense, they got it anyway.
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Speaker 7: I'll leave it there, have a terrific weekend. See your Monday. Parliament's back. Of course, here's Andrew
