Faces & Feels: 174. Michael Weaver

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[SPEAKER_02]: What it is, what's up, and welcome everyone to Faces and Feeals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Raif Houston, and today I'm joined by a very special guest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm bright and up at Adam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you've listened to my last episode, you heard me threaten to quit the podcast and give it all up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, due to technical issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's none of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is because my system was way too intimidated by my next guest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the one and only the pride of South Australia, heavy set violence, Michael fucking weaver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you today, my man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing very well already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much for having me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No worries, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been, you've been on my list for like a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've even spoken about it kind of like briefly and it's just finding the time to get it going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is going to be a great chat, man, because not only has there been great things coming your way, but then we've also got some great shows coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would argue you've got a couple of matchups that are probably some pretty important ones to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be fun to run throttle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's definitely some big things in the rosin and some big shows that just weren't online this week as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's been a pretty, it's going to be a pretty big couple of links in myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So exciting, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's not bury the lead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's rewind all the way back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Since this is microwave is first time on the podcast, we're going to rewind back to how this wrestling thing started for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, man, when you think about like how you got into pro wrestling, when you think about some of the names and faces that stood out to you, who were, who were some of your favorite wrestlers that got you even interested?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a WCW baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in that fox tail in that time where WCW was at like three p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was wall was like midnight on a Friday or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was eight to ten years old, wherever I can't remember exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are your parents going to let you watch the one on three p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on a Sunday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one at twelve p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on a Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of came through with WCW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a big Goldberg fan initially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was a complete kid in stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So see who this guy is just like dominate people or try to bully him and all the overcoming the numbers and like, oh, this is really sick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have two younger brothers who were crash test dummies for me, which my parents hated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my mum kind of broke me into the business in that sense of telling me like, hey, it's a show where we like
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to be entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that really, even early on was just like, okay, so what are the matches that I find the most entertaining?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it started like leading me towards like the luchitos and then those things that like Chris Jericho has been probably on my list of guys for
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that's kind of how I'm more sore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, even you're asking anybody I trained with when I first started, I hated being a big man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only wanted to do like little guy shit for so long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like you have a natural frame for big man energy and you're like, nah man, let's walk the ropes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The more when I started being out of trying, the more when I tried to do Canadians, I was in a really interesting way of wrestling in the sense that it's always kind of like ten years behind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I broke in, which was like, two thousand eleven was my first match, kind of broken to the business and like, oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Indie wrestling hadn't really taken off yet here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, like, I came in, like, just having studied and obsessed with like, oh, five ROH.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was doing like marifuji hidden clothes on spots and like following up and like all this stuff that nobody else was doing at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think anybody realized what they're in for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With I still like really sort of looking at it from a WWF, WWA sort of point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the camera.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way we tell the stories and you're like trying to do all this Japan influence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hundreds of, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, every was very fed heavy here for a really long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it took them like even just early, t and a, did not get
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[SPEAKER_02]: the the reverence that are probably in the other states yeah sure now that that's it that's so interesting well actually let's before we get much more into the the training will rewind a little bit because I do want to touch on that um
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[SPEAKER_02]: the you know the way you could consume wrestling as a kid here because it was the same for me right like Australia was very far away from staff when I I'm not sure how or jar when you born but for me when I was like in high school and things like the internet was coming into school you know what I mean like I remember in
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[SPEAKER_02]: grade twelve like trying to load up the WWF website and like watching flashpoint videos of like hardcore holy brawling with mankind in like the river and shit you know what I mean like and it's like tick tick tick and then my when those shows that you mentioned started to show on TV
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had my auntie who lived in Perth, I was living in Geraldton, which was like four hours that away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have it on TV, we didn't have those channels, we didn't have like two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she used to tape it for me and then like fill it, fill tights with superstars, I think it was from WWE or like nightrore and chill like that and then post them to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I could watch the tapes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly, because all I had besides that was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Blockbuster video, video easy, just renting VHS tape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, this is before David eight, you know, and before like the internet stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, how did you find, as you became a fan of it, and it's very interesting that your, your mum, like you said, smart and do up very early, and it's still held your interest as a kid, because it won't kids like, nah, it's real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How did you then find more content, and did you have friends that were also into it, or was it a solitary, a fandom for you, as it was for me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, I don't really remember having any friends who loved wrestling until like later in high school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Through primary school, I was earlier remember being the weed kid that had the figures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would like, I love the action figures and stuff like that was a big one for me is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yet like the, I remember getting World War III and my local video easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the three ring rumble in all of its glory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that that's where that was it like I didn't really take too much WWE where I thought because I had we had foxed up so it was mostly like Sunday's were where my day I had the TV three to three to five WCW Nitro was mine that was my time for the TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you been watching that, I don't know if you've seen it on SBS, they've got that who killed WCW documentary series, have you seen it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't on deaf lines to check it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like from, go through like the different areas and interviews, people like Bish Off and Nash and stuff like that, Goldberg and Brett Hart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they talk about like the business challenges that they were facing and like the Ted Turner and all this kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually really fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a fun way to sort of reminisce through it if you, you know, you're not really aware of all like the intricacies that sort of lead to the place closing, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the command documentary and it's like if you've been around wrestling for as long as you and I have you can't already know most of the stories yes everything like so like I had people at work who'd be like hey did you watch it you watch it just like yeah it was good already knew all of it like yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing was new, but it was, those kind of things are really good for, yes, outsiders or people are casual fans or something, maybe they liked it when they were younger, but didn't really care too much now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go back and you're like, oh, this is actually kind of interesting, because it kind of tickles out like true crime button.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was, I didn't actually watch the McMahon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think I watched the start of it or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My wife ended up watching it on her own for whatever reason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and I was like, and then how did it finish?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did it get into all the controversies that have recently happened?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like, kind of not really, it just sort of set it in text that it was happened because it was all filmed before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that's a shame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was sort of happening when it all happened and there would be more of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a scene that, basically, as they're filming some head talking heads with Vince, then it gets out alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, they just were recording him like reading it online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is kind of like really awkward where he kind of just like packs his things and walks out and it's just like That would be intense because it's an intimidating individual you just feel like there's an interesting thing with like I think it's might be that scene or it's a different scene
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cayman's actually in the background and he, his voice, talk about something that's brought up and he kind of brings it back on track or cuts Vince off from incriminating himself at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to go back and rewatch it, but I just remember it was like, hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, these voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have to watch it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure this probably stuff you can pick up from it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like you said, you know so much of it and they do phrase these things in a way like
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, for people who didn't live it or didn't go through it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't like sit at the top of my light, must watch it, because I do feel like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've already done it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's like the kind of recent stuff they've done, like the kind of...
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[SPEAKER_02]: behind the scenes type new thing that they were just doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was, that was actually pretty, I haven't really religiously watched WWE in the long time, but I found it like pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I couldn't believe how much they opened it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what I mean, like they're really just laying it out there for everybody, which I thought was going on wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting in that same sense of like, you're always going, how
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[SPEAKER_00]: How the jitter is it or is it what they're what like is it just a new level
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, even you an inch to hide the might.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really interesting to go because there's definitely some stuff that was clearly like or the way to head about with the with the Tiffany and Charlotte stuff where they brought up their then went off script to the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like or did they actually not go off script or did they leak the fact that they went off script so they can have drama for the show that they exactly and the same with like sis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like fake injury recently and even now with what's going with cross.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean is are those guys now going look everybody on the internet feels like they fucking know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's let them know what's going on, but then use that to work them kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if so, that's pretty amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of love it to be honest, like a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How's it going to happen to the business at some point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with these new internet business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's just something that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've heard the stories we use, that there are always leak stories that don't cheat, still leave people off of the track and discredit certain journalists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, they want to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they've just realized that, hey, this is actually a way that we can still keep K-Fabel live.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, everybody thinks they know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's create a documentary series where we're like, hey, everybody, here's what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been reality that's fake to an extent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we tell them what we want them to know and then we can create what is real and what isn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if so, that's kind of fucking genius to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like it because, yeah, I think wrestling is better with K-F-A, but I think I definitely enjoyed it more when I was a kid and I didn't know what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: though there's a part of me that also loves the inner workings as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's wrestling's weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're wrestling's weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as you, you're a fan, like you said, we both probably had pretty solitary fandoms when we were kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was the same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't really have any friends or anything that went into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to get a couple of nobody really cared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't on TV or anything where I was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like this thing I have to go and find.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'd watch it with my dad and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then when I, I think I didn't really become a super kind of fan of wrestling until I did understand it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was many, many years later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, then I'm older and I've given it away and I've gone bored with her and I've been in a band and I'm doing lots of other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it comes back across my desk again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now everything sort of exposed, and now I can listen to podcasts, and I can hear these backstage stories and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is I think what really kind of got mean to us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when do you think that fandom sort of ratchet it up for you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mom was probably later than I would, um, you'd probably expect because I think I was pretty solid fan through high school, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I started finding people who also liked it, like I did group of mates that ended up back yarding and then gone on to a few of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, coaches at rest of rampage, so I actually had some pretty good mates that were that I could talk about wrestling and really like diving to in high school which was really good and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: surely after high schools when I met Joel and broke into the business itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I was actually in for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I mostly started fracturing probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely fell out of it when I walked away from the business, which was over
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's definitely a period where I just stopped watching the Fed entirely for a really long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there was like a whole period where it just was so repetitive dude like I was like I can only watch Finn Ballow wrestle fucking Bobby Lashley so many fucking times and this has gone on for like six months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just do not care about any of this at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't tell you what it was, but there's definitely a period where I was just like, I'm done with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was also at the same time, I think I was probably consuming forty hours of independent wrestling through torrents and pirating sites like pro wrestling torrents and PW torrents and stuff like that's I think the turning point for me in terms of like my wrestling was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: going and finding all these extra stuff like discovering guys that like our mother downloading shows for like AIW and seeing Bobby Beverly and Eric Ryan and a tag team coming out of coming out to Eris Smith and you're like yeah oh who are these guys this is awesome and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're like, true and the biggest names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What was their tag team name again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, um, because they were doing it briefly as well, you know, I see W because they were like, four, four, oh, but they would reference the, it was a something like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Young stallions, I don't know, with something ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember talking to both, I've interviewed both those guys and talked about that kind of era of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's wild, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so your, essentially, young man, and you're watching these small independent shows, you know, from the state, like, with no context.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How does that then inform, are you watching that stuff before you go and train yourself?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so you kind of have an idea of stuff before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably rented at the same time, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was definitely got into R-I-H because there was a point where W-E went off of Foxtell and they brought in the early teenage episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was also watching those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was on the, it was on like the Foxtell paper view channel and then like once a week or whatever, you just get like impact and cheer, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, why is this happening?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is great that I can just watch this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, I remember there was like the fatal hallway, which was like Loki, AJ Stahl, Jerry Lynn, an amazing red.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like that opening shot match of their entire like run as a company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why it was incredible double elimination fatal hallway and cruiser wait for the other was for the exhibition to start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And actually, I'm mixing up, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is before it became impact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is when it was actually T&I, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like the flying ovuses and all these got like, which was incredible timing as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like, like, who is Loki?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is AJ Styles?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd never seen these guys before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, this is a guy who would like, I considered myself pretty well-rated and wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I knew everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, these guys coming out and know it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was like, then you do the deep dive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, oh, what is the ring of honor?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, watching ring of honor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, cool dish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, I was probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, like, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember exactly, but that was like, oh, shit, like, this, this stuff's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know we got in the other, like, the, so I think, WWE probably got on PGA at that point, heading in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about this anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This stuff's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember that a big one for me was ECW one night stand in two thousand five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had, we all my mates took the Monday off school, they came around mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was watching it, I'm going, this is the most incredible thing I've ever watched ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never saw any of the ECW stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than like random clips, I don't even found here in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But seeing this is just like, oh, this is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Orson, Bassado, Tanaka, was just like a light bulb moment for me going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or wrestling can be this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want these all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like when you wake up from the matrix, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like when you get you like unplugged from TV wrestling and then you're like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow, this is actually what I've been trying to find.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the entire time, this is what I want from wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was like that for me with that same stuff and then like you see new Japan and shit and you're like, oh what the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Though there is a point now where sometimes it's so hard to like keep up with everything where I'm like, just plug me back into the matrix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just plug me back in and I can just be spoon fed this shit every week that everybody else sees and it would just be easier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and like, this is the first year that I haven't, like, actively following G-One and it's me, and I have a podcast about Neha Japan and we've just taken it off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were kind of like, oh, trying to get the dates and we could, we're like, you know what, just fuck it, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: like, really not enjoying it at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we've both stepped away and we're just deciding if we've wanted to do it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I just saw the results for I don't know if you just saw what happened with like, you know, just concussion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now the like the final is evil and to kester.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a part timer and like
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[SPEAKER_02]: evil and it's like this is the G-One and I'm like fuck dude like this is a mess and it's hard for me to say because it's been my favorite promotion for like a long time but it's it's not doing anything for me at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same like I am I went after ROH YouTube and like was that one that kind of like clicked for me I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, targeting science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember there was a giant banana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Anderson caught me with a verse, but it was like, it was like wrestling kingdom three or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, oh, this shit's really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like from then on, and then I was like there for all the like the original rainbaker run that I watched full of club fall alive like this was like, oh, this is really, really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was so into it for such a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like it's getting to that point, like the same with the kind of Fed did where it comes repetitive, you predict the one that's the site.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like, and especially trying to do extra content about it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm really trying to make it work and I'm like digging deep and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, I'm just starting to get frustrated because I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: this options here and you guys keep just choosing the wrong one over and over again and I'm like how much grace can I fucking give you because I've only got so much free time and the so much less and I think I've just got to take a break from it because I think I'm just in a spiral of like negativity because they've yeah and I mean it's tough too because like they just got absolutely pillaged
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[SPEAKER_02]: like from all their top stars and stuff, but I feel like a booking team needs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really short amount of time to like, yeah, brutal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a five year period where they lost like every main event or they built.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want, look, three of them in one hit at one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, super brutal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that I was getting into New Japan just around that time because I first got into it with the AJ Styles, Nakamura into Continental Wrestle Kingdom match, which was fucking amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't long after that, that Wrestle Kingdom or whatever way they're like, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Nakamura AJ Styles and the good brothers are all going to WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're like, don't worry, a car is there, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It don't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to keep on trucking and they're they're really good at keeping people simmering and just next man up, right, and next man up, but they then you fucking lose like a car and offspray and shit like that and you're like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: getting next manning up, these people are getting very hard now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the bench is getting very weak and like now the next manning up, these guys will literally young lions like a year ago at best, you know, and they haven't done a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, six months off of excursion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, was it you're more
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're more in and so do you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like we're in excursion less than I think once again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's no wonder they're getting injured and shit as well because they're like fucking like
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[SPEAKER_02]: baby wrestlers really like they're doing good work and they're telling the dudes, but like none of those wrestlers that were in that like main event space had to do that that quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had whole careers like a carton ship were like in the States and around the world and in Mexico and like doing all this stuff and like learning their craft and getting to that point, you know, and then these guys are just dropped in it where they need to be wrestling constantly and like trying to do these knee Japan main events, it's just
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[SPEAKER_02]: brutal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so fucking tough man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have that guy can do eight men and six men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for for weeks leading up, so then he does the big one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then you can take a couple of weeks, a couple months off and then you go back to the, yeah, the multi man's so you can still rest, you're like, these are these stables that would be huge pinnacles of what made you Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan are just rumbling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where they're just like night-o-leaves and they're just like, oh yeah, L.I.J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just isn't a thing anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just not in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, this has been your top merch seller for fucking ten years or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're just like, oh, don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean, don't fucking worry about it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How the fuck is your disobey or shingo not like kicking night-o-out and like doing an angle and taking it out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just go, bye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but Osprey buy, and he's still kind of in it, but he's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're left just going, why is nobody doing an anger like that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not supposed to be a New Japan podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very sorry, but I'm getting fucking out of I did about it, because I'm just like seeing these opportunities to do storylines and the elevator just crumbled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you can kick their fucking cozy and then install his and then form Suzuki like so you can go and do the whole bunch of stuff and potentially if you're talking you talk to
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[SPEAKER_02]: May have ruined no or what that's a different comment no of my favorite faction dude though my favorite I fucking love so yeah, I've made a meeting a few times and we've got the fucking big towel and everything like he's just fuck and then they they didn't do an angle with that either it wasn't like Zack and Tai Chi take over they'll just shake hands and give each other a hug and it just goes away like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then you, you're least with bullet pop, you've always had, there's always someone who's taken over, whether it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think David Philly's done a great job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he was the right choice at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably was the only choice, really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done a great job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's like one of the, but him and the ward dogs are the only thing in New Japan that's really fucking worth watching at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they just, there's an intensity that they have the rest of the lock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't want to say the rest of the locker room lacks, but it almost, they don't bring it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when yet with theirs you feel like it's, it's, it's big match for your every car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially gay kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, gay kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, one of the one, I think is the reason why every chat there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also as well, I think gay kid doing the stuff in AEW was a terrible idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it makes sense for his character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the guy that's like fucking AEW's where you go when you're a fucking nerd and don't know how to kiss a girl in shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's just like John Moxley's fucking off-sider.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like the sixth man in his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it doesn't make sense and it's like, you had like, you were...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of your whole vibe was like you're the second coming of a nokey But in a guy, you know what I mean and like fucking they're all getting behind you and he's the new heart of a new Japan and then just Completely fucking just undo it and it just like the mistake again just a fucking dust and it's what are we doing guys like this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Jesus, thank you for just getting me through this crisis moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we just need it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll hug it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna see you in like a week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They show us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you and I just need to maybe share a hug and just like, if I can pull one out for New Japan, Jesus Christ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, it's been emotional day for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What were you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then how do you then find training in wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been through all that, all that, all the fandom and where you go to where you were.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you then go, I'm going to go fucking train in this shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of broken the business very different to probably anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I met Joel in a seven, Joel Bateman for those who don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about, we did a little mini doc going, leading up to a match that just went on IW TV this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, we met at a servo, just started shooting a shit, found out about wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what just like fueling up next to each other and noticed the wrestling shirt and started talking like, how did it, how does that conversation start?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the weeping users, so he was working at a servo and I was working in a different one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was like the inadulate we have OTRs, which are like half servo, half some ways half a quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, yeah, yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're twenty four seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I worked night shift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I finished at midnight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would drive home and I would stop at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That subway and get food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just chatted and I was just like, I don't even know how we just maybe I owe that human talking to somebody about wrestling and I parted in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no, I can't even remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all you said, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But just one of those things like a random meeting somewhere where you realize that you both had a fandom of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a long time ago and then we just started talking and then he mentioned that he was a restaurant stuff and then I talked about how I had made to started training at like a restaurant range at this point and and whatnot and then like he kind of broke me into the business so he was running started starting to run a company called PWI for a rest of the ignition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of learned the ins and outs of the restaurant before I started actual training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll do a Marine crew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was learning how to book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like all the parts that come to what you need to run a show before I'd even taken a bump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was like, hey, you know what all this other stuff?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to actually learn how to wrestle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was like, not managing at this point, but I was like, ringing out, seeing him permittating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sure, I remember we just went across the road to the oval across from his house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It rains like the day before so the ground was kind of like the muddy, but not like super muddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just he taught me to break fall on an oval across from his road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the beginning of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Joel trained you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joel was my initial trainer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one that trained him in the first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would credit more him as a mentor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the guys who trained me are Johnny Rade, Mike Boomer, Zack Saber, if the essay guides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when Peter, we all are closed, believe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before they closed, but around that same time, like, two thousand eleven-ish, I joined Snake Pit to train, which is now Peter USA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was already kind of like that point taking training a lot more seriously, and like four nights a week, six or six months straight, like Mike Boomer is arguably one of the best trainers in the country, but probably doesn't get the credit each due.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He isn't big one of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: you work your asshole, you get gasped, then you learn to do everything clean while gasped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when it happens in a match, you're still gonna perform properly, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm not gonna do my own horn because there's no idea what it once was, but at one point I would argue I'd probably one of the best gas tanks in the state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was purely just from training so regularly and training in that style with Mike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is one of the most underrated things in wrestling, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that ability like you say no matter what's going on when that gas tank is low to be able to keep going and have it look good and convincing and then add to that Yeah, exactly and then add to that stuff like blood and glass and things like that Keeping your head and doing it safely and stuff that's the that's the most challenging thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that it's definitely been good in that sense of being able to translate that to a more of a death match scene of just don't panic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always like, I've wrestled a few guys first, big of death matches and stuff recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guy here in Adelaide, who twisted Jay, who was very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on also on Don Yakuya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just one of those ones, I was just like telling the ref, like no matter the bump,
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[SPEAKER_00]: check him first just and then just breathe through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you feel like something's off, take a second of value a and then if something's wrong, talk to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had any major issues with anybody I've worked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you say, keeping your head would be the the most intense thing because when things are rushed and when panic is happening, that's when injuries and mistakes happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: like and especially like in something like death match I imagine like flinching and and half doing things can make it a lot worse than just going for example through something cleanly you know like that's where things can get bad
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely agree with that and it could just be the difference between flinching if you're in your arms like if you're only like half covering then suddenly your face is more open where if you can fold like commit to it yeah yeah you might not want to open up yourself or whatever like they could be a dozen reasons but it's just
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[SPEAKER_00]: just commit to what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason we've been trained for so long and how to do things safely, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just because we've got a few little things that add an extra risk for the psyche.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's this end of the day, it's the same bombs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't change the science and the mechanisms of everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as you have progressed and things like that, what made you then decide that you wanted to start a, you know, dabble in death match or was that something that it always kind of been on the cards for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also something Joel and I really liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Early on, before I even had my first match, John wanted me to do, like in a duel that would just start a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even then, obviously, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not really like a hundred percent sure on the idea of like, blading constantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now you've saved me out of care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much I've played with, you know, like, fifteen years ago, it was very different story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a period with PWSA, where it was, we were wrestling weekly shows and those group of us
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and like Adam Crowe who's now in Alpharet in Melbourne you got Matt Hader who's done amazing things both right city and over in the States and there's these a group of us that were always just like have our match walked back through the curtain follow that boys follow that and there was just and it was just these energy and competitiveness that always drove the one thing that I had that those boys wouldn't wouldn't do is that hardcore star my nobody wanted to do
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[SPEAKER_00]: as much hardcore as I wanted, and then it just always became one-ups friendship of like, okay cool, so it detects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna do blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wanted to do this, and then it was like blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Legos, and I was just, we're like a relatively PG show, so I couldn't go to the point of glass and fire at that point, but it was always like, how can I be creative and push the limits and get a
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[SPEAKER_00]: hugely like into the wrongive death match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was just like, so I was just wanted to push myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was always just be, how do I be more creative?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do like do more things like barbed wire boards?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, how do we get creative barbed wire boards?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just constant one up singing both myself and everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was just then when it came to the opportunity like, um, so
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[SPEAKER_00]: When deemed you started, I was on the first show with me and Mad Dog, the Bob White boards against Royal beef.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, okay, cool, this is really sick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Kalin and Damien are on that main event, and I'm watching this going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've said it to a few people who had some mates that came to watch the first show we didn't in that line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, did live death match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: is the most unique experience on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is nothing like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you may not like watching it on a tape or me or it I feel become what you live and it is so immersive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that the only way to not like it or not enjoy it is don't let yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a visual experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we watched it for the first time at Big Japan, not really knowing what we were getting into.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a hundred light tube death match in the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, why is everybody putting on like ponchos and glasses and shooting the front row kind of thinking that it's fucking gone?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just left going, what is this and how do I like see this again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then add to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: going to shows with the kind of vibe that deemed to you put on, or I should tell you, no, it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, where's my ring?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Few beers in a pub, whatever it may be, and it's just a great fucking time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has a good time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have friends that come to shows here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't even watch wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But any time a dude shows on, they've bought a ticket and they're there to fucking scream and have fun with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is, like you say, it's so visceral.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, even coming from a work as perspective, you watch these matches you're going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to experience that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I want to push myself to that limit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see what I can do in that room or in that genre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I took some time off for us, I'll throw that a year and a half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started coming back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Radik was retiring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got myself back in shape, so I could have one final match with him before he cold quits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that was in Ma Ma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was in May of twenty, twenty-three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Joel was like, hey, we need someone for VIX.
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[SPEAKER_00]: DMDU death match championship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to step up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, and it didn't even, it was like, done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we out of the store?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I consider that my first step in through the, like, through the door for death matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was probably doing stuff close to more elevated hardcore for years leading up to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was an enjoy leap to go from nothing to everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Show is more of like a
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just crossing the threshold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now that you've been across that threshold quite a few times, I've seen you do some pretty crazy stuff now nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially in like dream tournaments and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How has it feel like do you feel like I'm glad that I took that stamp?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a confronting thing, you know, for me, my body, but it is something that I, like, continue to challenge myself with, like, how do you feel about it all?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Physically, it's not too bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are some definitely some days after the show where I'm just, like, got my old man hips on, show walking around, like, I need a walker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After the match with me and Joel, I had a gummy bear-sized piece of glass taken out of my elbow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was, I honestly, I didn't even realize there was anything in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to get it stitched because it kept opening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go next to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, there's something in there and then pulled it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's about the size of a gummy bear over the glass pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, okay, Paul, like, there is definitely
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely a level of risks, but it's like nothing I've come across where it's been like, this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is stupid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dream three was my first dream tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're at that one when we came down with all the curve boys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Slice my face open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was your shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you went through the spider web as well, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, throw you through the fucking crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a person on the right side was on the opposite side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a, for anybody that hasn't seen drone through it, go watch it's fucking great show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they've got a big sort of wooden frame with
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[SPEAKER_02]: spiderweb of barbed wire between the ring and the railing like other you know barricades and Mike gets thrown over the top like through it right and it explodes there was a person like on that railing right there when that exploded I swear that frame was like this like just past their so fucking good I was like how's this guy not moving out of the way because it's very obvious what's gonna happen here he's like he didn't get knocked that swear like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's two clips on my Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you said violence?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see it from the other angle that you were talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the corner breaks and shoots like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, if that easily, if he was leaning forward, that's shooting a new style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and that's so scary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My back was turned to him when I had no one near it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, not that close to anything until I would send the clips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like two million people have seen that clip, which is this guy always potentially dying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wonder if he even knows, but it's like one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're in the audience, like for these things, keep your head on a swivel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not an exact science, like you need to move your ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it's going, let me ask you this actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking about this with somebody recently and it'd be interesting to talk to you about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a point where like, so you start doing this stuff right and it escalates and you go through or you've gone through webs of barbed wire and you've led a lot of the stuff that been through, is there like kind of, how do I word this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, kind of a confidence and indestructibility that comes along with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm wording it terribly, but you start to go, hey, wait, I'm not made of fucking paper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, the casualness in which a Joe Baitman handles his injuries fucking shocks me every time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, the last time we were there in Melbourne, he finished, and there was a gash above his belt, like on his back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Massive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that was just leaking, and I'm just like, yo, you're bleeding, guys, I should be right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we went to dinner and she and he's just bleeding, and he just doesn't care about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And me as a human, if I have like, I've currently got like a tiny cut on my thing, and I'm like, stop the presses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a very serious injury that I now have to deal with in its very inconvenient.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This man's covered from head to toe, and he just doesn't give a fucking email.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There must be like a certain level of like, in vulnerability where it's like, I am an indestructible creature, and nothing can stop me now, and none of this shit faces me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm trying to say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a, there's a hunter-est Thompson corn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to paraphrase this entirely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's essentially the only people who know where the line is are the ones that have crossed it and died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, that's it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of how we feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not how I feel, but it's it's almost at that point where you're like, the more you do, the more you escalate, the more you realize, oh, I can actually do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can I can push these limits further.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the match with me in Danny, which went online on I see them, you know, a whole squad this weekend on the GT----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the second show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the second show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was the third show because you guys have even done stuff on the third day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like everybody, it's everyone's third show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've hit the Sunday show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has had drinks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've eaten, you know, things have happened over those days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're already carrying injuries and everyone's going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like Vic and fucking JT in the main event bullshit like main event and both those dudes like Vic was didn't come out with us like they're not before because that he's heads wrapped you see at the side of it because it hadn't stopped leaking in days and he's like yeah I'm not gonna come to the pub boys feel a bit woozy now I think I'll just get some sleep and I'm just like a bit woozy this motherfucker needs to go to hospital like
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[SPEAKER_02]: crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The trim on fountain that day for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was just blint like clumps of blood through his beard just drinking beers, cheers and people like absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't cover dry referred to him like a Vic Craig just began around here like a pit gremlin all day because he was a menace like he's just drinking beers at his hanging out and I'd be doing country and he's a little face at a P and X to me and he's talking shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like this man is insane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, that's what it is right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys just
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[SPEAKER_02]: a living on that line now and you're like, well, like, this don't matter till across it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I think I don't want to say there's like a mutually absorbed destruction at some point where we're all going to get to that point, but I think it also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you were saying in the terms of like you start realizing that you're not made a paper, you get the more you get closer to that wine, the more you realize it like, and this is fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the what I was saying was the match for me and date a daily in demand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, don't even mention I actually slice my finger to the bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do the end of that match?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a point where even you actually see it, there's a point in my fingers, it's just dripping and I'm taking them up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just like, it's a finger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not gonna, I'm not gonna die from looking at cut to my finger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's annoying and it's uncomfortable, but it's fine, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it's not having to get a blue shot because it's like, it went to the bar in the center of the straight and like, right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, it's a finger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, literally worst case scenario, they lock off the tip of my finger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Daniel Chick for the rest of my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I'm not as good as guitars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I once was while I'm healing at Hertz to eight sold and vinegar chips, but really we're still okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The worst part we should type in, because I like for my day job, is that it always just, just as on top we would just make it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the fucking life-shattering injury I'm currently dealing with right now is typing it shit like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking bad, but I've got to shout out in that match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Demento with a veggie might larry it and I had to say that was so fucking funny like such a genius choice because he's he's a version to veggie might as well documented at this stage and so it's like I'm gonna hit him with the killies here with my finish like it was cry Yeah, I can't take credit there wasn't
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was half my idea half it wasn't everybody's telling me you're going to get the veggie mark in the veggie one in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what's the easiest way in the kind of at it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, put it on a Larry it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, it's like, I've always tried to be the most entertaining wrestler I can be and it doesn't matter if it's a death match or if it's a regular or whatever we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to create me entertained.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to enjoy themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: putting some little moments of levity and what I do is always going to be part of my shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that's awesome, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's, let's have a look at what you've got coming up because I'm got a mind-blank all of the matches because I know we've got a bunch, but I know one of which is Abdullah Kobayashi, which is huge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I talked about my first death match ever saw, he was the big Japan champion in that match at that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is an amazing wrestler, a menace of a person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen him all hoosen stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's so fucking funny, like all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My wife obsessed with him.
48:30.423 --> 48:33.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Her and him were like, where were we, which one were in Japan?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's just like, you're cute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, you're cute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like aggressive, like, they're like cute of every time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like the funny he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you and him as a matchup is gonna be so fucking entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How was it to get the news about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was surreal.
48:51.162 --> 48:53.443
[SPEAKER_00]: This whole experience has been really surreal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you think about it, I've only been doing death matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since I stepped through that threshold, just over two years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was too easy going July.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did my first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that time, I wrestled demand to trim on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we've got Kobe Archie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's had the same sort of thing of like, when I got tall, or so it's like, oh, OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like just almost that part it's hard to process you like when when's it gonna get pulled out like when's the rib coming?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's just so surreal like even at this moment like today we're what two weeks away less than two weeks away and still just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: can't process it, and do all my type study, and I'm just like, it's just doesn't feel real.
49:39.779 --> 49:45.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, a doula Krabayashi is easily one of the most iconic death threats wrestlers of all time.
49:45.861 --> 49:51.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you Google death match wrestling, and he would be one of the first five photos easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't just, that the him and the Kenzans, and just he is iconic.
49:58.147 --> 50:01.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything we do is he is him, and it's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on over the moon, given the opportunity, the fact that like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Danny and Joel and Big Japan have the faith in me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To be able to, like, step up against them is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate every opportunity I'm getting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also, I understand the importance of the opportunities I'm getting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be a moment for me to go, okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a participation trophy for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a chance for me to step up, take the big W and then go, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I see W. Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Vick's getting those shots in Chatternooga?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you put me in these positions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting the wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wends my opportunities to start traveling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it all way and even without, say, a W over him, being with him has the opportunity to, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: be viral to have those moments to like, you know, get the shares, like, to do that stuff and increase your name and reputation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's pretty, it's a pretty awesome spot, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On, yeah, like this Adelaide show is, like, we are three weeks removed from the first death match show in Adelaide.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when two more weeks, we've got me and Kobyashi, you're calling an Akira
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is genuinely an incredible, like, it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Adelaide is going to be so sweat with this car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we, we, it almost had us buying flights.
51:40.228 --> 51:42.308
[SPEAKER_02]: I could be like, maybe we just fucking took over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like, we cannot, like, at this stage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You say, how much may my wife travel?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, we fucking can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and even then we may still do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because when, when I saw that an ad for you and him, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have to go to Adelaide.
51:56.912 --> 52:01.576
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Adelaide, but it's just like, I'm about to be a Melbourne line next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, fuck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've had so much leave and been doing different stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, unfortunately, I don't have the time and bandwidth to be like, well, let's fly in a Melbourne and just stay through these two weeks and just do all the stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because at some point I need to work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I haven't been doing much of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even last year I was injured at the end of the year I'd like broken my wrist so I was working home for like three months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like I haven't been around, you know, even though I have and I still do stuff from home and stuff, it almost feels like I'm just taking the piss out of my own life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so at a point where I've got to go, no, I'm not gonna fly to every wrestling show in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've got arguably the biggest dream ever this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yet it's going to be already announced for three days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard rumors out of summer kid announcements
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be the pinnacle of death match wrestling in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's another one that I've got to figure out if I can get there for what date is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember off the top of your head?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the first second and third of November.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Motherfuckers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like one thousand years ago, we bought tickets to Metallica on the first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, that's a problem for future made a figure out if I can get to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and then remind me who else have you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What have you got in Melbourne this coming?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got in VIX.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's from the match of the one that we had two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're doing blazing saddles two again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, blazing saddles again, this will be the second.
53:49.032 --> 53:53.917
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got our cactus tubes, which are tubes we covered in thumbtacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing cactuses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got barbed wire tumble wings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going salt lemons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a chaos in factory of the ties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we've got to just announce this week as a fatal four way, go up Simpson, cousin, country, and myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I guess the equivalent of a monster's ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When, like, I haven't seen country before, but I'm pretty sure kind of big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Jordan Samson is probably the smallest person in the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a fucking issue I like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what is the set?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Simpson was my first match back when I took the time off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I worked in for MXW in Ballarat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of didn't know what I was getting into because I had like, I don't see them around, I'd seen this stuff when I didn't really know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That boy is not only dense, but he hits Saurah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everyone knows how legit Gauras, not enough is talking about how legit Samson is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh legit fucking fighter, like championship fighter, like hell titles and shit, like shirt fighter, like the real deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of them are just incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Gore is an ungodly specimen of a man like he is just like not even it's we just say he's deceptively strong because you know he's strong but he's like off the charts strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's entire body's been built to kill people for his entire life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's no exaggeration.
55:35.058 --> 55:39.000
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a man that like, you know, is studied kickboxing in Thailand and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's job is to train people to fight and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's as real as it gets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, also, like, three hundred kilos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just enormous whites, just throws people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking brutal person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's so tell me a little bit about that country because that's a sort of new name to me that I just saw appear on the pictures as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so cousin Conjury is representing shit show wrestling is a Tennessee based wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's coming over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really, there's probably the shit show wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see W weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jim and him and Zach Austin, I believe are the yeah, the shit show wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: contingent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know a lot about him, but like he's, he's another big boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a bit, he's a unit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For his hard, he's hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's, he's my kind of boy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is going to be, that's going to be brutal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So which one is which day?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So date and brewery on the Thursday is that you and Vixer is that the best boy doing the Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got me and Vixers on the Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm a Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll be the Thursday and the Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to fly home, unfortunately, on the Seoul, Mr Sunday, one, which is a shame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will get to see you in VIX and that absolutely nightmare that sounds like this blazing settles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be terrifying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to talk about the weeks for just one second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is my podcast, but he she is on the streak of the off top like her just the momentum that she is writing the effort that she's putting in how good her matches are and just
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no one's ever doubted in Vixen and her drive, but it is stepped up and entire novel level like this, has since getting announced for a Chattanooga and Dale Patrix in now, John Wayne Murdoch like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is almost a little point where I don't think that Dale and John know what they're in for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vicks is gone in there with death and murder in her eyes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's on one and like I just spoke to her recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just did a thing and like where she's at now with like her fitness and like the drive that that's giving her and the motivation and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really impressive to see like how far she's coming and like there's just no stopping her now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's cooking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's really cool that everyone can feel that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's, finally, twenty-three years in dedication of, you know, getting to a point where she's reaping the wrong ones that she, she, she's earned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like you see her, you know, backstage and with, like she's clearly like a leader, you know, like, and everybody respects the hell out of her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, it's just so cool to say, man, it's cool to say everybody coming out and I'm, yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you want here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to be super fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did a no-ring, you know, Sydney just deemed use debut two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And her and Terry went hard, like, like bring out the mobs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was even then, it was just like to the point where like her hair had been like tangled into the point of barbed wire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cut, rip it out, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's just a level of dedication that she's bringing right now that is head and shoulders above some.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's so cool, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, are you, if you're not on it, are you going to be at the day to one or it's probably a little bit far for you, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you, you drive into Melbourne in order to do this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, usually flying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just very smart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've done that drive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like, well, four times just this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's been because we went to gather round and we had bought everything in vent except for our flights, hoping for some cheap ones to come up, but that did not happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, twenty one hundred bucks to find to Adelaide and we're like, fuck that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we flew into Melbourne and drove.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in and out, and then why else do we go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We went to like some music festival, whatever, and did the same thing.
01:00:00.152 --> 01:00:01.993
[SPEAKER_02]: We were already a Melbourne and drove this.
01:00:02.013 --> 01:00:07.556
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done that drive a few times, and it is, like it's not, it's definitely not the worst drive I've ever done.
01:00:07.596 --> 01:00:09.698
[SPEAKER_02]: It's totally doable, but it is a long day.
01:00:10.058 --> 01:00:19.223
[SPEAKER_02]: And I imagine if you're gonna be like doing physical activities and stuff like that, it's probably better to just take a, what's the flight like an hour, an hour and a half way of bringing out.
01:00:20.524 --> 01:00:22.565
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just like getting get out and what do you do?
01:00:22.585 --> 01:00:25.587
[SPEAKER_02]: Just get like a hotel get a sleep and then then head back again.
01:00:25.647 --> 01:00:38.314
[SPEAKER_00]: It depends on the day events when I fly in usually if it's um I'll try even for these earlier shows like because the the Sunday and Sunday like earlier in the day they're not quite night time.
01:00:38.854 --> 01:00:41.076
[SPEAKER_00]: I try and get you the night before.
01:00:42.033 --> 01:00:45.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, but this time I'm just flying in six a.m.
01:00:46.255 --> 01:00:46.836
[SPEAKER_00]: getting there.
01:00:47.696 --> 01:00:51.238
[SPEAKER_00]: Get a rental car probably in more or less to the venue after getting a feed.
01:00:51.258 --> 01:00:51.698
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:00:52.178 --> 01:00:54.460
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then checking at some point.
01:00:54.700 --> 01:00:55.400
[SPEAKER_00]: My who knows when.
01:00:55.700 --> 01:00:56.801
[SPEAKER_02]: What time's the Saturday one?
01:00:56.841 --> 01:00:58.802
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought it was like seven seven shows.
01:00:58.902 --> 01:00:59.662
[SPEAKER_00]: So, is it not on?
01:00:59.982 --> 01:01:02.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I should probably check that.
01:01:02.583 --> 01:01:05.303
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was like the same as the Dream World.
01:01:05.323 --> 01:01:06.664
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a Tupium Star.
01:01:06.764 --> 01:01:08.464
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so did I originally.
01:01:08.564 --> 01:01:09.944
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we had planned for.
01:01:09.984 --> 01:01:17.566
[SPEAKER_02]: But then I think, I think Amy said that she had checked online and it had said on the DMDU Facebook or something.
01:01:17.606 --> 01:01:18.946
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a seven, one.
01:01:19.226 --> 01:01:19.546
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:01:21.327 --> 01:01:23.787
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a question for like a Joel Bateman or somebody like that.
01:01:24.187 --> 01:01:24.347
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:01:26.187 --> 01:01:27.168
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to know though.
01:01:27.408 --> 01:01:28.028
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to know.
01:01:29.449 --> 01:01:30.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Good podcasting here.
01:01:30.470 --> 01:01:31.431
[SPEAKER_00]: Just also our phones.
01:01:31.691 --> 01:01:32.712
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, here you go.
01:01:32.772 --> 01:01:33.252
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at this.
01:01:33.572 --> 01:01:35.194
[SPEAKER_02]: So did it.
01:01:35.354 --> 01:01:36.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, that's the twilight of August.
01:01:36.575 --> 01:01:37.576
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I talking about?
01:01:38.837 --> 01:01:40.818
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, doors at six p.m.
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:44.521
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, bell at seven Saturday, August, twenty-third.
01:01:44.541 --> 01:01:46.583
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's a normal time show.
01:01:46.863 --> 01:01:47.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:47.403 --> 01:01:50.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd fly and check in.
01:01:51.382 --> 01:01:53.903
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably just chill for a while before heading to the venue.
01:01:53.943 --> 01:01:54.383
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
01:01:54.423 --> 01:01:59.125
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you guys normally go there and warm up and like do a bunch of stuff and just set up and things involved.
01:02:00.065 --> 01:02:02.366
[SPEAKER_02]: Because a little ginger is not a wrestling venue.
01:02:02.506 --> 01:02:06.508
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it all needs to be like set up in there and sort of out and things like that.
01:02:07.988 --> 01:02:09.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, little ginger is a great venue.
01:02:09.929 --> 01:02:10.549
[SPEAKER_00]: Great people.
01:02:11.529 --> 01:02:15.531
[SPEAKER_00]: Really cool atmosphere through just having people
01:02:19.146 --> 01:02:21.686
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everybody says this and I've never wrestled.
01:02:21.726 --> 01:02:28.029
[SPEAKER_00]: The most people I've ever wrestled in front of was like, four hundred or five hundred what I was in Japan, never wrestling in front of like thousands.
01:02:28.629 --> 01:02:33.411
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is that something cool about wrestling in front of seventy to a hundred people in a small room.
01:02:33.591 --> 01:02:33.811
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:02:34.291 --> 01:02:35.372
[SPEAKER_00]: This feels like so much.
01:02:35.552 --> 01:02:36.673
[SPEAKER_02]: The vibe is so good.
01:02:36.713 --> 01:02:40.056
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they captured it really well on the IWTV footage and stuff.
01:02:40.136 --> 01:02:45.100
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, you're just in this warehouse with like some lights up and things like that.
01:02:45.160 --> 01:02:49.543
[SPEAKER_02]: But it really was like immaculate vibes and everybody's so excited.
01:02:50.844 --> 01:02:53.847
[SPEAKER_02]: And haven't a wicked time before we start to wind down, which we should.
01:02:53.887 --> 01:02:55.128
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to let you escape.
01:02:55.428 --> 01:02:56.669
[SPEAKER_02]: You just said you wrestled in Japan?
01:02:57.029 --> 01:02:57.929
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do you do?
01:02:57.969 --> 01:02:58.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:02:58.309 --> 01:03:00.790
[SPEAKER_00]: So I went over in Japan in twenty sixteen.
01:03:00.970 --> 01:03:01.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:03:01.891 --> 01:03:06.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just did a, I didn't know about the three, well, I was like eighteen, eighteen day tour.
01:03:07.493 --> 01:03:08.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, nothing huge.
01:03:09.073 --> 01:03:10.434
[SPEAKER_00]: Work with, um, Fugo.
01:03:10.454 --> 01:03:14.235
[SPEAKER_00]: I have like eleven matches in Tokyo and
01:03:15.225 --> 01:03:27.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Osaka, probably the biggest one was the last show I did, which was about five hundred people, or was the six main tags, it was me, WB bellows, and Fugo if you go Yumeji versus the great Kabuki.
01:03:29.937 --> 01:03:35.742
[SPEAKER_00]: First ever IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion, Shiro Koshinaka, and the reporter, the great Mucha.
01:03:39.286 --> 01:03:39.967
[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.
01:03:40.827 --> 01:03:43.889
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was all kinds of crazy.
01:03:44.669 --> 01:03:53.794
[SPEAKER_00]: I have stories for days about just the Kabuki being backstage and just, because we're in this room and there's like really only the six of us.
01:03:54.875 --> 01:03:58.517
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kabuki and Fuga are like the only two really speak English.
01:03:58.957 --> 01:04:02.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kabuki speaks writing English because of all of his tongue that he's in the States.
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.642
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just genuinely one of the funniest people I'd ever had.
01:04:07.841 --> 01:04:13.183
[SPEAKER_00]: The promoter, the great witcher, had never wrestled a foreign ever for, and he made me pinky promise to keep him safe.
01:04:14.004 --> 01:04:14.904
[SPEAKER_00]: Good, good, good, good.
01:04:15.204 --> 01:04:16.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck that guy, stiff in.
01:04:20.527 --> 01:04:21.187
[SPEAKER_02]: That's brutal.
01:04:23.348 --> 01:04:25.269
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how did that opportunity come about?
01:04:25.289 --> 01:04:36.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, so when man bellers, WBellers had met Fugo when he had been some like no ring stuff here, and I like used before.
01:04:37.386 --> 01:04:38.706
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just kind of reached the actual.
01:04:38.746 --> 01:04:42.008
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hey, we're looking to come over.
01:04:42.328 --> 01:04:45.069
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the kind of the dates that we're looking to do.
01:04:45.389 --> 01:04:46.589
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, come down.
01:04:46.609 --> 01:04:48.070
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll arrange some stuff for you.
01:04:48.110 --> 01:04:50.310
[SPEAKER_00]: So we started off initially that we're going to do.
01:04:50.330 --> 01:05:00.094
[SPEAKER_00]: So we went over and did the, he showed that it was at W, W, W. World Underground Wrestling.
01:05:00.814 --> 01:05:01.994
[SPEAKER_00]: His version of the chains.
01:05:02.954 --> 01:05:03.875
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was really cool.
01:05:04.727 --> 01:05:15.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next day, we did like this match, no ring match show for Miss Mongol and her students, which is really chill.
01:05:15.779 --> 01:05:19.203
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had a friend of ours who was living in a soccer at the time.
01:05:19.223 --> 01:05:22.186
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, let's go to soccer for a few days and hang with them.
01:05:22.686 --> 01:05:24.689
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we just got a few more bookings in a soccer.
01:05:26.813 --> 01:05:30.455
[SPEAKER_00]: which we are not doing, you may have seen that online.
01:05:30.475 --> 01:05:35.398
[SPEAKER_00]: There's this company called Fighting United Crazy Kings or FUCK.
01:05:35.558 --> 01:05:36.259
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, FUCK.
01:05:36.279 --> 01:05:37.880
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:41.522
[SPEAKER_00]: They have this unbelievable tag team tournament.
01:05:43.043 --> 01:05:46.625
[SPEAKER_00]: The Pondo and Neprobuchar of one this tournament.
01:05:46.705 --> 01:05:47.105
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well.
01:05:48.037 --> 01:05:49.219
[SPEAKER_00]: And so of it.
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.183
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was wild.
01:05:52.744 --> 01:06:04.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I am on me and windman bellows a one half of what the two thousand and sixteen fighting in our crazy tea Kings unbelievable tag team winners and then Pondo and Necro want it in like
01:06:05.817 --> 01:06:07.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Think like, oh wait, or oh seven or something.
01:06:07.818 --> 01:06:12.239
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, oh, I want to say taller than the neck row and ponder over one.
01:06:12.359 --> 01:06:13.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just crazy.
01:06:13.740 --> 01:06:16.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like four shadowing that had been.
01:06:16.781 --> 01:06:17.721
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
01:06:18.061 --> 01:06:19.362
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just so wild.
01:06:19.442 --> 01:06:20.782
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like so random.
01:06:22.543 --> 01:06:24.544
[SPEAKER_02]: But amazing though, you put on the recipe.
01:06:25.524 --> 01:06:26.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
01:06:26.725 --> 01:06:28.265
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely something like this.
01:06:28.845 --> 01:06:30.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're the one who Australians don't want it.
01:06:31.046 --> 01:06:33.167
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure it would be the least Australians don't want it.
01:06:33.810 --> 01:06:35.071
[SPEAKER_02]: the fuck tournament winners.
01:06:37.733 --> 01:06:38.794
[SPEAKER_00]: He's my fuck partner.
01:06:38.935 --> 01:06:39.335
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:06:39.355 --> 01:06:45.540
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's the kind of fighting United crazy kings unbelievable tournament or something?
01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:47.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and tag team tournament or something.
01:06:47.102 --> 01:06:48.343
[SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable tag team tournament.
01:06:48.543 --> 01:06:49.163
[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.
01:06:49.424 --> 01:06:50.645
[SPEAKER_02]: That is awesome.
01:06:51.045 --> 01:06:52.967
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me let you get out of here.
01:06:53.067 --> 01:07:00.873
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have to do this another time and reminisce about it on Japan as a bit, because you've obviously been there a bit and spent some time and so on.
01:07:00.913 --> 01:07:05.617
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get into it and we'll try not to spiral out of control about New Japan when we do it, yeah.
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.502
[SPEAKER_01]: I tell everybody where to like find you and follow you, get me a chill that kind of stuff.
01:07:12.946 --> 01:07:17.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, you're interested as your best bet at heavy set violence.
01:07:18.230 --> 01:07:24.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I am on Twitter, which is at HVY set violence, um, but very rarely use it.
01:07:25.275 --> 01:07:29.278
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I also have a Facebook page which once again, it's not really that active.
01:07:29.918 --> 01:07:38.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Merch is always best to try and get from shows, but if you need specific sizing or designs, just keep the up on Instagram, I'll put something aside.
01:07:38.765 --> 01:07:40.106
[SPEAKER_00]: I work in the logistics company.
01:07:40.206 --> 01:07:42.027
[SPEAKER_00]: So shipping will be really cheap.
01:07:42.067 --> 01:07:43.308
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
01:07:44.168 --> 01:07:47.350
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you sell the shirt that you were wearing?
01:07:47.390 --> 01:07:51.092
[SPEAKER_02]: And I see W. Seventy six, the heart of a lion cock of a whale shirt.
01:07:51.973 --> 01:07:52.293
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
01:07:52.373 --> 01:07:53.694
[SPEAKER_00]: I do need to do a reprint.
01:07:53.754 --> 01:07:57.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I only have a couple of limited sizes available, but I do have that shirt available.
01:07:58.837 --> 01:08:00.618
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the reprint of my
01:08:02.012 --> 01:08:07.598
[SPEAKER_00]: Big thanks one and I'm also looking to get something really special for Dream this year as well.
01:08:07.678 --> 01:08:12.243
[SPEAKER_00]: So keep some keep your wallets clear and free for that.
01:08:12.443 --> 01:08:12.944
[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
01:08:13.144 --> 01:08:13.845
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
01:08:13.905 --> 01:08:15.406
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, everybody, that's it.
01:08:15.446 --> 01:08:18.409
[SPEAKER_02]: Check out everything from heavy set violence online.
01:08:18.890 --> 01:08:20.411
[SPEAKER_02]: Check out everything coming from DM DU.
01:08:21.205 --> 01:08:34.367
[SPEAKER_02]: I see W no holds barred, and if you can't make the Adelaide shows, keep your eyes peeled to IWTV, because that match with Mike and Abdullah Kobayashi will make its way there.
01:08:34.727 --> 01:08:37.048
[SPEAKER_02]: So do don't wanna thank you so much for your time, yeah?
01:08:37.808 --> 01:08:41.748
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hyped you up that we were gonna have heaps of technical issues, and we had absolutely none.
01:08:42.129 --> 01:08:50.350
[SPEAKER_02]: After my entire morning being ruined, so you're a blessed man, thank you so much, and everybody out there remember, it's all about peace, love, and prayerlessly, peace out.
01:08:55.506 --> 01:08:59.490
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