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Welcome to Throwback Thursday.
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So these are some of the oldies but goodies.
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The classics, and they are some of the episodes that
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are probably in the back of the catalog that you
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haven't managed to listen to yet. So just a warning,
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some of my thoughts, feelings, opinions may have changed since
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the recordings of these episodes, doesn't make them any less interesting.
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So as an evolving human being, I may say something
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in these episodes that I don't necessary agree with today,
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but these episodes are the classics, and I just thought
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I would do a little something fun for us. So
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welcome and enjoy Throwback Thursday.
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Hello conspiracy Players, Welcome to another episode, this one being
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a reunion of sorts. We have three returning guests, John Gusty,
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Ryan Dean, and Julia from Cosmic Peach podcast, Ryan Dean
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from a number of podcasts, and we're gonna be talking
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about probably all sorts of stuff today, but to bring
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it to like a focal point right off the bat,
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before we started recording, we were talking about these big
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staged events that have happened throughout history, and then there
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seems to be one going on right now. And I'll
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give each of you, you know, your time to kind
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of wrap up what your thoughts are about it. We
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did it briefly, but we could really dive into it now.
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And John, and do you want to start with some
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of the stuff you were saying before.
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Oh about Luigi?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, I uh, well, you know we were we were
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we were talking about you know, staged events. And and
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I say, yeah, there seems to be one happening in
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real time right now, because I always you know, after
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I assassinate someone, I ditched my backpack, peace out for
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five days, but still keep my manifesto and the gun
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I used on me. That just doesn't sound plausible. Plus,
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anytime mainstream media jumps on something with such fervor it
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it is just a red flag to me. This kind
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of people get whacked all the time, you know. And
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I started, I started thinking about this back in the day,
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like with remember the John Benet Ramsey case.
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You know, Oh you're gonna get her going now.
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I didn't like a three part series on John Benny Ramsey.
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Well wait a second, John, you read Program to Kill right?
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Yeah?
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Oh yeah, he has a chapter on John Beney in there,
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because it's so fucked up.
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Well, but I didn't even know who Dave McGowan was
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back when when that happened, you know, but when it happened,
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I did go. You know, this type of stuff happens
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every day, multiple times a day, all over the probably
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with within ten miles of anybody right now, that exact
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same thing happens. So why this one Why does this
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one case get such again across the board, network participation,
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and all of a sudden it's a thing. And and
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so this whole ceo whacking thinks justice seems like another
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one of those like like people get whacked all the time.
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And to what I think this is is I think
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this is a this is setting the table for a
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lot of these corporate big wigs to piece out legitimately
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or illegitimately. You and when we start talking about some
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of the entertainment stuff, you know, like is you know,
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is Bowie really dead? Is Petty really dead? Is Prince
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really dead? Or or did they negotiate their you know,
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their contract out and just pieced out, you know, or
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you know, so that I think that kind of stuff.
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I don't this whole Luigi thing, I don't. It's it's
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just not what they say it is. I don't think
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that they at the very least, I think as far
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as I'll go right now, is I will it might
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be an m k Ultra type of thing where you
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know that that that that kid was for whatever reason
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we I don't know, is family connections or whatever, but
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it's you know, what was the I'm blanking on the
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kid's name the the shooter? Was it James something that
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the shooter that went and you know, did the job
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and then went and sat in the car and waited
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for the police, or like in the DC Snipers, yeah, yeah,
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or in the DC Sniper case where the official gets
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on TV and he says the code words or whatever
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and then you know, the person turns themselves in, you know,
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not too far after. So it might be an m
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k Altra thing at at at best, but I don't
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I don't think that.
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Is this the same one that was like eating a
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fucking fish file at and.
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Fucking well a brown everybody was stomping. It was the
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Mick rib because to me, like these now have corporate
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like corporate funding, like both like come up in these
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headlines constantly. He did Starbucks before the killing, got cotton
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a McDonald's.
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Yeah, you see the meme going around, it's a fake
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burger King meme. This is burger King. We don't snitch.
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That should be real. Actually, Ryan, what are your some
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of your thoughts on it initially.
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On this Uh, what's his name? Mangioni. I always struggle
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with Italian names. Yeah, you gotta say it like it's
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a dish when you're saying.
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Remember the trumpet guy from the from the seventies, Chuck Mangioni.
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Oh, okay, so that's how you say it, MANGIONI, perfect.
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First of all, you know, Gus, you said a lot
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of stuff there. Man, I hope Tom Petty's not that,
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and I know that they say is, but I mean
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I love Tom Petty.
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Man.
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That's that's my Desert Island artist right there. But I
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know we're still not going to get to listen to him, so,
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you know, no new music coming out as far as
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this thing goes. Man, It's it's interesting to me because
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everything that you're saying makes so much sense, right, We're
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not if one of us was going to go and
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do something illegal, especially high profile like that, you're not
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going to like keep a bullet point list of how
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you did it, why you did it. You're not going
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to keep the gun with supposedly the silencer that was
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on there or the suppressor, I should say. But if
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you're trying to do something high profile and you want
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to get recognition for it, I think that you would
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keep some of that stuff on you so that you know,
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you could almost have that stardom about what you did,
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and you can have you know, you can gain attention
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and you can be like, yeah, I did this and
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it was a noble reason why I did it for
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the record. I don't think that that they got the
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right guy. I don't think that that's who did it.
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It just doesn't make sense. I feel like when these
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kinds of things happen, especially to high profile people, the
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people that get caught so quickly afterwards, it's to almost
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deter other people from going out and doing similar things,
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because there's a lot of people that saw something like
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that happen and they're like, yeah, this more CEOs, more
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politicians need to be afraid to walk around in the street.
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So it's almost to deter people from you know, copying
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this guy doing this similar kind of stuff. But it's
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it's it's all so confusing, and I'm not as deep
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into the conspiracy world as I used to be. So
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I'm not researching all these little intricacies and all these
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these these coincidences if you want to call them that,
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but yeah, something's very fishy about it. And did you
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guys see the whole thing with two eighty six that's
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going around It's everywhere right now.
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Yeah, we just featured that in my other show, and
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it was like a kid on TikTok put together. It
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might be the same thing you saw. Yeah, And yeah,
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the the numbers in these very high profile news stories
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are always fun to pay attention to. You get like
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my co host on this show, he's a huge Jamatria guy.
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And then I know, Ryan, you talk about the numerology
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of things a lot, and yeah, yeah, what eighty six?
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It is weird how many times it can come.
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Up right, And like I so it goes as deep
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as like on his Twitter he had the freaking two
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hundred and eighty six pokemon in his in his uh
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you know header up there, and yeah, bray Loom. I
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don't know what bray Loom is, but you know, like
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just a quick description of this thing, you know, for
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what it's worth, it's basically like a little freaking green
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mushroom looking guy. Did I cut out?
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No? I was trying to give you the option to
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share your screen and I started sharing my screen.
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Oh, I can share it if you want.
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If you're going to talk about something you're looking at,
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I'm just going to give you the option that it's
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your choice.
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Well let's pull it up. Yeah, so this is this guy,
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This is this is bray Loom. It'd be great if
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his height was three twenty two, but it's three eleven. Yeah,
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he's a mushroom pokemon. I mean that could if you
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if you're trying to like pull strings and like figure
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out some weird kind of shit that you can point
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fingers to. You know, mushrooms are a hallucinogenic, right, A
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big fan of mushrooms. But just to me, man, they
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had a description of here of what he does. It
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knocks out foes with quick, virtually invisible punches. It scatters
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poisonous spores and throws powerful punches while its foe is
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hampered by inhaled spores. I would assume is what it
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continues saying there. So, like I said, man, there's just
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a lot of weird things. The denial code for his procedure.
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He had like some neck procedure. The denial code for
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insurance was two eighty six. The McDonald's was two hundred
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and eighty six miles away from the killing spot. His
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fucking cousin follows two hundred and eighty six people on Twitter,
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There was just two hundred and eighty six. Over and
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over again. It was weird.
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Do you think though, that the people that craft and
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launch these these are initiatives, These are marketing initiatives. And
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if like we can all wrap ourmont our heads around
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the fact that there are you know, there are normal
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people that work everyday jobs creating video games, hiding deep
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ass easter eggs and all sorts of stuff because that's
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what makes the games compelling. And and I mean some
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of these things are deep. And it's like if we
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do that with video games, and we do. I mean again,
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it's people's jobs to create these story I'm just talking
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video games now. There's people's jobs to create these storylines
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and hide these Easter eggs and make all of this.
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And I mean, and that's happened hundreds of thousands of times.
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How many video games are there, you know, and there's
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some ones that are really fucking deep. Why wouldn't we
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do that with you know, we know the news narratives
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are are created. I mean, you know, you know, at
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least a vast majority of them are. I mean, every
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so often something real does happen, but these type of
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things like why wouldn't they hide some Easter eggs and
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stuff in there to make it interesting so that we,
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you know, get caught up in that kind of stuff
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when and and and and it kind of throws you
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off what it what it? What it actually is all about?
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And you know, I don't know, uh were we were
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we talking uh off camera or or on camera when
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I was saying that, I think this is just the
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wedding of the appetite for the the general uh the
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just the general narrative of being pissed at Corporate America.
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Because I think regardless of whatever team people call them
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find themselves on, whether you're on the red team or
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the blue team or the yellow team, whatever, whatever team
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you're on, I think everybody can agree in mass that
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the powers that shouldn't be need to need to go
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or severely change the way that they're they're doing things.
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So it's a it's a it's a worldwide appetite to
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hate these motherfuckers, to hate these corporate motherfuckers, and there's
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a lot of them in vulnerable positions right now. So
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especially with you know, we're we're new and new season
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of America's Next Top President coming up here, you know,
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real soon, and and whole new cast, you know, and
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and there's gonna be some narratives changing and moving around
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and and and the public, the worldwide public is hungry
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for something. Something's got to happen. And so I don't know,
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I'm just kind of playing this out as if I
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was writing a movie. You know, you got this new
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character come in and going, I'm going to clean house
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and make things better, and I'm gonna get all the
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bad people. And well, if that's really happening, the bad
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people are shipping their pants knowing that that's about to happen,
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and so they need a way out. And so could
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this just be an event, a pop culture event that
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is taking place to make it kind of dumb you,
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not not dumb you down, but numb you or get
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you used to get the masses used to the idea
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of corporate people being being whacked or disappearing or going
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to jail or bad things happening to the corporate people,
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because that seems to be where the narratives are going
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in that direction, and we're not and we're not used to.
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I mean, just think of look at what just happened
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through the scamdemic. There are a significant number of people
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on this earth that were worshiping and listening to the
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every word that the corporate structure was telling them to do.
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They were injecting themselves with things, and they were put
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wearing things, and they were doing everything the corporate structure
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was telling them to do. And and now the narrative
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is changing, and now corporate structure might be having to
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pay for some of its sins. I mean in real life,
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look at what's happened in the last month. I mean,
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in the last month, you've got the Dutch government official
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publicly admitted, you know that the COVID pandemic was a
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NATO operation, you know, and it took and that's that's
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actual headline news. And then here in the States, in
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the last couple of weeks, that five hundred and twenty
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page report by the oversight he pretty much saying that
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everything about the scandemic was bullshit. So You've got the
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US government admitting it was bullshit. You've got the Dutch
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government admitting it was bullshit. Uh, doctor Hay, I believe
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it wasn't. In Australia just the other day was vindicated
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by their Superior Court. You know, he was kind of
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one of the guys there in Australia saying, you know,
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this is all bullshit. All he was just vindicated. So
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now the Australian government is admitting that it was all bullshit.
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So there's a lot of there's a lot of change,
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and it's not because of the Trump thing. I mean,
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that's maybe part of it, but there's a.
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Lot of change.
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Yeah, exactly, there's there's a lot of change coming. It's
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gonna have the public is expecting things to change, and
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if the shit doesn't change, I think then there's a
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real possibility for an actual revolutionary mindset. Maybe because your
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average every day just looking in America, your average everyday
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American right now is doing one or two things going well.
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If you're if you were a blue people, one of
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the blue people, you're going everything sucks, you know. I
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guess in January, the trucks are gonna come around and
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round up all the women in gays and take them
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to the camps, which of course is not gonna happen,
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but there's some people think that. But if you're a
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red person, you're expecting some shit to happen, and there's
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a lot of red people expecting some shit to happen.
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And if shit doesn't happen, you're gonna have a lot
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of pisko. The blue people are already pissed off, then
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you're gonna have a lot of pissed off red people
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going what the Y? And so I think corporate, the
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corporate structure is has been planning their exit and their
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downfall for a while now. But I think this is
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where it hits mainstream. And I think this Luigi Mangioni
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thing is maybe where it hits mainstream. This is this
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is the beginning of a lot of weird corporate exits
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and whackings. And just like in the music industry, when
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somebody wants to retire, behind the scenes, they want to retire,
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but in the front of the camera, they die and
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they die off. And what's the best thing for a
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musician's career is to die? And then you sell tons
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of stuff and now now you're you know, now you're,
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you know, a legacy artist, and you know, Jimmy Hendrix
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sold a fuck of a lot more product being dead.
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Did I hear Jimmy Hendrix or Morgan Freeman same thing? Yeah, yeah, Jimmy.
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Jimmy Hendrix has sold a lot more product dead than
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he did alive.
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They go to jail too, right, I mean, you see
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this with P Diddy and possibly jay Z coming up here, Like,
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I don't think that that's P Diddy that's actually in jail.
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If you look at the freaking picture, he doesn't have
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the same the same facial features all that stuff. Now,
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it's embarrassing to go to jail the way that P
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Diddy did, but at the same time, it's probably still
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better for his career, right, because I'm trying to find
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a pattern here, because you're saying that you know, this
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will this will be something that's more and more frequent
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in the media that we're gonna see killings or disappearances
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or whatever, these high profile figures, and there could be
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a little bit of a patter and forming with those
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three at least.
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Yeah, And honestly, I think there's a whole other thing
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we could talk about. I don't think you're going to
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actually see jail time because these these characters that are
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committing these crimes are fictional characters. And I think the
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last time we talked, I used the example of Seinfeld
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because he actually used didn't change his name. So there
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is the fictional character of Seinfeld who lives in the
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apartment across the way from Kramer and Elaine and George
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come over. There's that fictional character, but that Seinfeld doesn't
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really exist. That's a fictional character that is a piece
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of media property. Somebody owns that Seinfeld, you know. I
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think Larry David probably owns that Seinfeld. So that fictional
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Seinfeld is a piece of intellectual property that is owned
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by somebody. And then there's the real Jerry Seinfeld that
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is probably sitting. We could go knock on his door
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and have coffee with him right now. Well, there isn't there,
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you know, there isn't really a p Diddy. You know,
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Sean Combs might not even be his real name. That
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might just be his corporate stage name, if you will,
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which is why a lot of these celebrities have stage
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names because they're not real entities, you know, like like
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my my real name is John Gusty. But if I
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had a stage name and I was you know, you know,
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Ricky Fire. You know, if that was my name, you know,
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and Ricky Fire went out and raped a bunch of
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women and stole a bunch of money, you can't you
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can't prosecute Ricky Fire because Ricky Fire doesn't exist. He's
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a character, you know what I mean. And there's and
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and and the same system that own owns and controls
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the courts, owns and controls all the copyrights and all
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of that stuff. So it's an enclosed system. So if
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you're in on it, if you're one of those characters,
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you're not gonna you're you're not gonna see any jail time.
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I mean, they might want every once in a while,
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they might throw like a bone to the unsuspecting public
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and lock somebody, lock somebody up, you.
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Know on camera.
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Oh you know, there's somebody in jail. But are these
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people really sitting in jail in real life?
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I have a huge question for you about that. I
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want Julia to get in on what we were just
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talking about. And then John, you gave me a perfect
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segue with that, because it's something I wanted to bring
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up huge on this episode, But anyway, do you have
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anything to wrap up on the Luigi?
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I was just thinking, like, I think we're all living
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in the most interesting season of American Horror Story. I
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think all this stuff is fake.
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I think.
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I mean, people can disagree with me, but it's like
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you were saying, they play a character and there's like
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the real person and then the character that we all see.
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And I really really do think even with stuff like this,
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that it's all fake and it's all staged, and it's
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all so like we're just hitting a climactic moment in
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the season and then you know, we'll see what happens
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later on. But I think a lot of this, even
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like with he Diddy and and they're not going to jail.
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That's probably not even him. They made a freaking Netflix
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movie what was it this year or last year about
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they cloned Tyrone and then everybody had a theory about
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what's his nuts Jamie foxx Fross. He didn't look anything,
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you know what I mean. It's like they're always changing
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the characters and they're always like you know, so, I
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think we're either living in American Horror Story or we're
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living in they cloned Tyrone and there's just a bunch
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of fucking doubles and shit out there, and I don't know.
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Could be both, could be both?
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Yeah?
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All right, John, we talked about the West Memphis three
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on the first episode we did together. I want to
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ask you about the Manson killings. Were they real? Were
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they maybe not real? And you talk about these characters
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never seen in jail time? And so was Charlie Manson
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a real person? Was he somebody that got footage of
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I mean, I don't really like leadion, I.
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Don't I don't believe that Charles Manson was a was
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a real person.
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And Sharon Tate killed.
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Again, Sharon Tate is a character, so they can do
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whatever they want to with their characters. Was the character killed, Well,
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clearly the character was killed, because that's what the storylines is.
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Was there a real human being in real life that died.
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I highly doubt it.
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Really. They're big pregnant belly and like all the crime
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scene photos and they sensationalized stuff, you know, because they
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love to put that picture out for everyone to see,
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just like with John the reason. Yeah, big pregnant, bloody
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belly with the fucking news and like all the and
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they reposed the bodies. You remember, we were talking about that.
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Kind of the same kind of the same point that
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I made Kolby with the West Memphis three, all right,
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and the bodies of the boys, and they're in DVDs
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and ship that you can buy. And if if my son,
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if in real life, that happened to my son over
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my fucking dead body, would footage of my dead, naked,
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abused boy be allowed to be sold on the I mean,
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there's just no, There's no fucking way it would ever happen.
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And same with that, with that, if if Tate was real,
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and and and and and and that would do you
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honestly think that would you will? If that was your
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family member.
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Well, she was also a powerful guy in the military,
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so if he didn't want any of those photos person, Yeah,
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he was the prototype of this kind of thing going
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on in that area at this time. So I actually, John,
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the reason I asked you is because after you said
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the thing about the West Memphis three, I didn't go
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full human vibrations and just start thinking every goddamn thing
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is fake. But I do think most of it is.
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I mean I think maybe sometimes real shit happens and
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they just grab a hold of the narrative and pull
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it where they want that to go. But usually they
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just construct the whole thing. So I've been obsessed with
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the Manson killings, and I went and looked back through
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these new lenses I have on now, and it seems
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fake as fuck on every angle possible. And like you
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said about them planting things like the conspiracy candy to
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go digging through the Roman Polanski and the witchcraft shit
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that was going on around all those people, and they're
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trying to state sequence. So if you think it's real,
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you could tie all these things together that probably don't
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even really exist.
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If it's real. I think Roman set it up, and
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I think he got off on the pictures of her
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bloody pregnant belly. He was probably jacking off to fucking Rosemary, Like, yeah,
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what is freaking weird? Though?
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What is what is inarguably real, is someone or someone's
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did craft these narratives, and there was a purpose for
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these narratives to be crafted, and that is I think
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where where where the fun conversations lie is who who
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and who and why? You know? And it's like, well,
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you know, I mean even you know nine you know,
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nine to eleven. I don't you could use nine to
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eleven as an example. People would say, you know, well,
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you know, was nine to eleven all about Building seven
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and what they had to cover up there? Maybe that
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was part of it. Nine to eleven also was just
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like this Luigi thing, a really great event to set
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the tone in public conversation for stuff that was to
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come next, you know. And that that that that started
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a whole decade plus of terra no noia, you know.
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And it was terror, terror, terror, terror, and you know,
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and and it's gone on so long that they had
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to change the narratives. Would that there would be something
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else to be afraid of? And I think that's part
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of why the scandemic came up.
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You know.
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But but you know, if terrorism, I've heard some other
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people say this in various ways, but if terrorism was real,
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how come none of the like the actual like things
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that matter get terrorized? Like like like like if if
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Colby Kolby, where where what city are you in right now?
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Medford, Oregon, Medford, Oregon?
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And okay, so I'm in Nashville. So if Nashville, Tennessee
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went to went to war with Medford, Oregon, do you
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think that if I'm the commander of the army and
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I'm I'm trying to take over Medford, Oregon, or I
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wanted to bring Medford, Oregon to to its knees, Why
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would I waste my time killing people in some movie theaters,
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or why would I waste my time, you know, blowing
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up a marathon? You know, you know what, I'd go
482
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to the Medford, Oregon town offices. I'd seize the or
483
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.200
if I wanted to destroy Medford organ I just blow
484
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.920
those fuckers up and kill all the people, kill all
485
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the officials, and then install new people in Medford, Oregon.
486
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.480
But like, we don't see terror events. It's like the
487
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terror events are against the public. They're never against the
488
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the figureheads, you know, you know, and and if it,
489
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you know, if it look at that, look at the US.
490
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Has the US not given the rest of the world
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every you know, every reason to to want to let's say,
492
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the US, the District of Columbia has given the world many,
493
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.640
many reasons to want to want to mess with it.
494
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But but we we rarely see any District of Columbia
495
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.680
official was whacked. You know, do you.
496
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.640
Think that nuclear weapons exist?
497
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.319
John, No, I don't know.
498
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:07.039
I think.
499
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.440
We're unanimous here.
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00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.839
I am actually from Oklahoma City, and they have the
501
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.279
Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial that you can go and like
502
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.960
walk around and like get all this information that's probably
503
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:23.759
totally made up.
504
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.599
Get a mcveag coffee muggle, right, and.
505
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:31.440
Like there's ongoing revenue, man, because I'm sure it's not free.
506
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.440
No, it's like twenty dollars a person to get into.
507
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.160
Like you work around the memorial for free, but if
508
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.640
you want to learn anything about it, you got to pay,
509
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.079
like twenty dollars a person.
510
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:42.960
Pay for your indoctrination.
511
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.119
This attitude in Oklahoma City, that's like they fully accept
512
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.319
the narrative, and they fully you know, they're they're not
513
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.640
trying to look into it. They don't want to look
514
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.000
into it. They just accept it for what it is
515
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.880
because a lot of people died, you know, and kids died.
516
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.599
They had like a daycare in there, and a bunch
517
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.079
of kids blown up too, and so nobody wants to
518
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.799
like really look into the Oklahoma City bombing either. But
519
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.039
it's got a bunch of like weird shit too.
520
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.680
Yeah, and Mick, the whole mcveain narrative was kind of
521
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.680
like this, Luigi thing. It was like, you know when
522
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.079
when when when he was caught in a car with
523
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.279
expired tag, Dude, you're telling me that if you pull
524
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:24.200
off a thing like that, your getaway vehicle is gonna
525
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.839
You thought everything through, but you're were like, fuck, my
526
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.960
tags are expired.
527
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.359
Give me every reason to be sucking pulled over.
528
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.519
And he had his manifesto with him too. I believe
529
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.960
manifesto as well. So you know, it's familiar narratives, just repeating,
530
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.799
but yeah, now it is again. I think we're probably
531
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:49.839
all in agreement. Most of these things are are staged
532
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.759
and manipulated, uh, either partially or completely.
533
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.880
Well, there's another thing that I always think about, especially
534
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.480
it kind of reminded me with this Mangione guy. I'm
535
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.759
just gonna call him Luigi from now and to be honest,
536
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:09.440
but yeah, this Luigi dude. When when people found out
537
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.240
who he was, all these girls online are talking about
538
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.200
how hot he was, Right, he is, it's the same.
539
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:16.200
What's that?
540
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.039
I mean?
541
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:17.680
He is hot?
542
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.319
Is he a good look he's a good looking dude.
543
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:21.759
He's a hot Italian dude.
544
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.400
There's shredded.
545
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.480
He looks like he could have been the stand in
546
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.119
on the music video for beat it. When they arrested him.
547
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.160
He's got that red leather jacket down and he's going
548
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.039
he's like snarling at the fucking camera and ship.
549
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.079
But yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got like he's got
550
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.000
to you know, he's in good shape and all that stuff.
551
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.920
But it reminded me of that Boston bomber, I forget
552
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.160
his name, the younger they.
553
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.079
Put the rolling Stone cover and all that ship.
554
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.680
Yeah, they put him on rolling Stone and so like
555
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.680
I I'm one of these people. Like I said, I'm
556
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.279
not as into conspiracies as I used to be because
557
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.559
it gets exhausting after a certain time, Right, I kind
558
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:55.720
of go through cycles.
559
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.640
Yeah that's him, No, happy meal pox killed in the
560
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.480
McDonald arches, Happy millblacks.
561
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.200
Well, the freaking McDonald's golden arches is a symbol for
562
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.640
it could be for like the Boaz and yaheen thing.
563
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.720
I've seen some things with that, the two arches and
564
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.680
like you know, all the freemasonry that's in arches and
565
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:19.880
all that was bullshit. But anyway, the uh, the narrative
566
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.599
or like what I'm trying to get to say here
567
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.720
is that some of these people, Man, I don't know
568
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.720
if this dude was on any medication some of these
569
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.000
SSRIs and weird shit like that. But I feel like
570
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.039
when like at a certain point, people get lost and
571
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.960
they can they want to just be famous, especially in
572
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.039
this era of TikTok and Instagram and social media, and
573
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.279
they want to go out there and do something that
574
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.960
gets them some recognition. So I'm not saying that he
575
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.799
did or didn't do it. I have no fucking idea,
576
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.359
to be honest, but I refuse personally to just think
577
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.839
that every one of these events is fake, right because
578
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.319
some of this stuff's real. It has to be. There's real,
579
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.680
there's real, real consequences to these things, even if they
580
00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:59.160
are fake.
581
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.480
You just you brought up something that I I think
582
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.519
is important. And this is this is early on. This
583
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.279
is an argument that my my wife would have with
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00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.759
me on a regular basis. I'll use nine eleven as
585
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.079
an example. Okay, those buildings really did come down, right,
586
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:23.839
the people really did die. So so when when you know,
587
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:28.000
and and I think that should serve just that should
588
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:34.480
serve as kind of a blueprint for when when we
589
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.400
say things are fake, you know what I mean? Like
590
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.000
like not was was the nine to eleven narrative fake, Yes,
591
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.359
very much so. But buildings did come down, people really
592
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:47.920
did die.
593
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.279
So so in dual agreeance with you on that, that's
594
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.759
exactly how I feel too. It's like it's real but
595
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:55.759
fake at the same time.
596
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.240
Well, they're willing to use us as unwilling participants in
597
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.559
in the big thing they've planned.
598
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.400
They were fodder.
599
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.160
But like so Ryan, with like the Manson killings, are
600
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.559
you willing to entertain the idea that the people that
601
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.920
got killed in the house on Seattle Drive, if they
602
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.319
could be fake or do you think that?
603
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.000
Sure, I think that a lot of this stuff can
604
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.519
be fake, and there's fake you know, components to it.
605
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.519
But even with and I'll you know, we can talk
606
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.519
more about the Manson stuff, of obviously, but you know,
607
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.599
even with something as crazy as COVID, Like COVID, I
608
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.960
am fully convinced that the story that we were told
609
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.759
is bullshit. And I was, I was a pretty early
610
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.039
adopter of that theory. But COVID had real consequences, like
611
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.880
very real ones, right, And so that I think that
612
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.960
makes it real, and that makes it that makes it
613
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.160
so that like I just get exhausted when so many
614
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.519
of my friends in this community, which I hate that
615
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.279
word too, but so many of my friends in this
616
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.640
conspiracy world say everything's fake and everything's fake and gay
617
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.920
and they say all this stuff, and I'm like, man, like, like,
618
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.559
at what point are you just like a nihilist and
619
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.039
you know, like a complete not a skeptic. What's the
620
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:09.559
other one skeptic? And what another s word? Cynic right,
621
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.760
Like it's just so cynical just to be like.
622
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.400
Ah, that's exactly why I'm not saying that you're doing that, John,
623
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.000
just to be clear, but like it's just to me, man,
624
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.599
you know, these things have real consequences, and I think
625
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.239
that that can't get you know, overlooked.
626
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.199
No, And I know I appreciate you bringing that up,
627
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.639
and that's exactly why I spoke up and said something,
628
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.039
because I'm with you, you know, and I'll tell you
629
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.119
something that's that's that's really really personal. My wife of
630
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:43.679
almost thirty years, Dawn, she hasn't taken a step on
631
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.519
her own, and going on twenty years now, she's been
632
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.239
an electric scooter. She has she has got one of
633
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.480
the most compromised immune systems a human could be cursed with.
634
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.559
So we've been li being with compromised immune system on
635
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.760
a major level. I'm talking like on a life or
636
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.079
death level, for you know, twenty five years or so.
637
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.599
So I know a thing or two about cells and
638
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.079
blood and bacteria because not because I want to, because
639
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:26.239
we've had to learn this, or my you know, I
640
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.559
don't want anything to happen to my wife. And so
641
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:33.159
when all of this stuff started happening, that the COVID
642
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:39.440
stuff started happening, I didn't never once thought it was real.
643
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.320
I never once thought it was real because I knew
644
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:47.719
it wasn't real because I was twenty five years into
645
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.719
knowing that viruses are theoretical, have never been proven, blah
646
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.280
blah blah. I knew. I knew all of that again
647
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.679
out of necessity because of my wife. But around me,
648
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.679
I saw a lot of chaos and suffering and and
649
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.960
and and now arguably a lot of it was self inflicted.
650
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:12.760
A lot of it was was otherwise well meaning people
651
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.519
trusting and acting out of fear. But there was some
652
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.800
very real damp to your point, there was some very
653
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:24.119
real damage done. And yes, so I do think I
654
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.480
I it bothers me too when I hear people, you know,
655
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:33.199
in just anywhere just being being that so cynical, that
656
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.400
that that everything is fake. But I I think, you know,
657
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.760
there's always going to be those those people in the room,
658
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.840
and it's it's up to people like us too. We
659
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.719
can have these these conversations which a lot of people would,
660
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.719
you know, a lot of maybe a lot of people listening,
661
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.320
you know, might think are crazy. But I do think
662
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.519
there is a responsibility in having these conversations to be
663
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.360
as specific as possible. You know, Like I said, I
664
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.119
think nine to eleven serves as the best example of
665
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.920
that people really did die, those buildings really didn't come down.
666
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.920
Some some fucked up shit happened. But but the story
667
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.639
fake as hell from from start to finish, and and
668
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.159
and so you know, but by but I've met people
669
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.239
who say everything about nine to eleven was fake, And
670
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.280
I was like, dude, you know.
671
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.039
The buildings aren't there anymore. But those are probably people
672
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.480
that never even went and saw the Twin Towers before,
673
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.519
so like they probably weren't even there in the first place,
674
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.079
you know, even though millions of people have seen these things.
675
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.320
So I don't know, man, But yeah, like you're saying,
676
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.079
words matter a lot, and the way that you bring
677
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.760
things up matters. And that's why earlier when we were talking,
678
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.960
I said that dude's silence are on his gun, and
679
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.559
then I changed it to suppressor because it's actually it's
680
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.760
called a suppressor. It's kind of like calling a freaking
681
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.599
AR fifteen an assault rifle. There's no such thing as
682
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.360
an assault rifle, Like this could be an assault can
683
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.840
you know, just anything that you can hurt someone with.
684
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:50.840
You walk into a gun store and say where's your
685
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.639
assault rifles? They're going to look at you like you
686
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.400
have no idea what you're fucking talking about?
687
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.639
Right, Well, there's some dipshits that think that AR stands
688
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.719
for assault rifle, right, you know? And so I mean, yeah,
689
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.679
it's words matter, and the way that we talk about
690
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.360
this stuff is very important, I think, and I would
691
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.400
agree with that, John, But it's just yeah, the the like,
692
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.639
how is it fake? What's fake about it? I think
693
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.079
those are the things that that are really important. Same
694
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.000
with the Trump shooting, whichever one you want to talk about.
695
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.239
With the Trump shootings, yeah, there was some weird shit there,
696
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:22.519
but there's consequences to those events always, right, The liberals
697
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.400
would say the consequence to him getting shot would be
698
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.719
him winning the election, because I think he won the
699
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.400
election that day. To be honest, you know, he got
700
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.239
shot in the state.
701
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.480
From the very beginning. As soon as that came up,
702
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.639
I was like, yeah, they're putting him in.
703
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.360
I would go I would go so far as to say,
704
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.400
is the consequences to those events are the reason those
705
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.679
events are crafted and executed in the first act.
706
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.760
Yeah, that's that's exactly. Yeah, even like what you mentioned
707
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.320
earlier with John Benney, I have been long in the
708
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.280
camp that she's real, because there's a lot of, you know,
709
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.920
theories floating around that she never existed. But like when
710
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.039
I say it's fake, I think that little girl really died.
711
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.280
I think this story they put out about it is
712
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.400
fake in all of like the stuff about the parents
713
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.239
and like the brother and like all that weird stuff
714
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.920
that and then he went on doctor phil and stuff
715
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.960
and like that stuff to me is fake as in
716
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.639
they've scripted it. But I think a little girl really
717
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.800
physically did die. You know, like that's a lot of
718
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.599
and there is dead body, but.
719
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.960
And and and in order to make it believable and
720
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.000
to get the desired outcome, there has to be casualties
721
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.840
because you know, otherwise it would actually be fake and
722
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.960
and and and a stage Hollywood production. So the powers
723
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.239
that shouldn't be are not above uh, having some people
724
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.719
lost in order to get the desired outcome.
725
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.480
She died, so anybody had a hand in her death.
726
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.480
Yeah, wasn't there.
727
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.639
Some things about John Vaney Ramsey where like all the
728
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.639
beauty patches that she was in, like there was no
729
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.199
one else entered into those pasts, pugeens and stuff like that.
730
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:01.880
Yeah.
731
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.599
I actually covered that in my series because it was
732
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.239
a point people kept bringing up to, like that she
733
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.880
wasn't real and those pageants actually don't exist. But the
734
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.679
all the videos and stuff of her, if you read
735
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.880
Program to Kill and you kind of look into it,
736
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.480
I think she was actually part of like this underground
737
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.119
like pageant weird kittie porn thing that was going on. Well,
738
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.559
they dress up these little girls and they do take
739
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.519
videos of them. They do like Dolly part in them
740
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.760
up and like make them look crazy, and then they
741
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.440
take pictures and videos of them. So the pageants themselves
742
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.440
might be fake quote unquote, but the videos are real,
743
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.239
the pictures are real. I think she was really her
744
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.079
parents were into like some pretty fucked up shit and John.
745
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.559
You probably know about this from reading Program to Kill.
746
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.920
But there is this whole underworld like dark pageant circle
747
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.519
that these girls are thrown into really young.
748
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.360
Yeah, it's a yeah, it's and I think I think
749
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:07.480
most people, if they think about it, those beauty pads.
750
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.679
The whole thing about beauty pageants for little girls is creepy,
751
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.880
just even on the surface, you know, I mean like
752
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.519
like it would would anyone that's ever been a parent
753
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.559
would never put their kid through something like You'd have
754
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.199
to be a special kind of person. And I'm not
755
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.599
saying that in a complimentary way. You'd have to be
756
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.320
a special type of person to put your precious child
757
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.480
on a stage to compete against other children based on
758
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.199
their beauty.
759
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:39.800
Yeah, it's pretty weird.
760
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:41.280
And I don't have a kid, and I fully agree,
761
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.280
I can see how creepy that shit is without having
762
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.119
a kid. Weird.
763
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.599
And it's also like a bunch of weird dudes. Like
764
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.599
when I was reading about it, most of the people
765
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.280
that turn up to the beauty pageants and shit, like
766
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.000
some of them are friends and family whatever, but a
767
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.519
lot of it is just like weird, creepy old older
768
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.519
dudes that like get off on watching these little girls
769
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.599
in their little bikinis and shit. And then there's that
770
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.480
story about Heather or Rourke when from Poltergeist when they
771
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.679
made her dress up in a bikini and like do
772
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.840
this stuff. And then like, I think it was that
773
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.159
same night she died and they blamed it on some
774
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.519
kind of a bowel condition. Again, a little girl really
775
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.880
died story fake. I think they were doing stuff to her.
776
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.159
I mean, like they blamed it on like a bowel
777
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:29.880
condition or.
778
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.599
Something and they said, they said, your fluent septic. But
779
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.360
they've sodomized her. I mean, it couldn't be more fucking Obviously,
780
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:36.920
there was.
781
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.480
Like a witness and every time she tries to bring
782
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.599
up the story, they tell her that she's a kook
783
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.039
and a crazy and like a shut the fuck up
784
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:44.840
and like whatever.
785
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.599
But yeah, it's a that whole beauty pageant thing seems
786
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.840
to be like a like kind of the minor league
787
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.079
farm team for the grooming aspect of things.
788
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.400
Dude, I took my sister to a freaking used to
789
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.679
do tumbling when she was a little toddler, and I
790
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.159
felt weird as ships just being there watching these toddlers
791
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.360
freaking tumbling and stuff like i'd go outside and just
792
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.960
chill be like I'm not gonna you know, it's just weird, Like.
793
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.039
You know, like my sister did that too, and they
794
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:18.679
got him in these Yeah, they're like suits basically.
795
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:21.440
Yeah, and you know they're they're flipping around and doing
796
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:22.800
shit and it's like, man, I don't want to be
797
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.320
in here for this ship. I'm just gonna leave her
798
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.320
in here and walk outside, you know, and then let
799
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:28.639
me know when you're done, and I'll go back in.
800
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.239
But yeah, man, I can't imagine being a fucking grown
801
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.239
man and being like, Wow, this girl's real talented. It's like,
802
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.719
what the fuck is your problem? It's weird.
803
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.440
A weird video of Tom Hanks. Maybe it was a joke.
804
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.400
I don't know. Oh yeah, like have you seen it?
805
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.880
I posted it on Instagram?
806
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.000
Yeah, where he's like what I mean, talk about the video.
807
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:50.599
He's like cheering on a girl and stuff.
808
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.599
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it like a late night show and.
809
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.920
It's like, I want to say, Saturday Night Library, one
810
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.800
of those like skit shows, like.
811
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:59.800
They're trying to make it funny, but at the same time,
812
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.199
he like make it nasty for me, make it and
813
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.079
he's like throwing dollar bills or something like that.
814
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.920
Yeah, certainly have no reason to respect Tom Hanks of any.
815
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.920
It's such a nice guy.
816
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:17.199
Basically actually told me something about the kid that was
817
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.079
in Forrest coump.
818
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:18.559
Oh.
819
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.440
Yeah, so this was before, like years before. So Forrest
820
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.320
Gump was always one of my favorite movies, and I
821
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.360
watched behind the Scenes DVD and Tom Hanks modeled that
822
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.199
accent off of the little kid that played Forrest Gump,
823
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.519
and it showed footage behind the takes of the movie
824
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.199
where he is just like this fucking close to him,
825
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.519
following him around in a really creepy way. It creeped
826
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.360
me out at the time. Years later, when all this
827
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.360
other shit came out, I was just going, fuck, I
828
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.239
thought right back to that. That kid has not done
829
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.239
anything since that movie, by the way, And yeah, there's
830
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:56.920
so much.
831
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:02.960
Creepy that to be interesting to see even still around exactly.
832
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.280
Yeah, he's probably like that kid from The Little Rascals,
833
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:08.800
that bug whatever.
834
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.159
Bug Hall that played off Falf in the movie. Yeah,
835
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.320
he's he goes on like conspiracy shows our size. He
836
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.800
doesn't say a lot, but you know he's talking about
837
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.719
some dark ship that he went clean for the Hills,
838
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:21.320
the kid.
839
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.400
From Forrest Gump. He Tom Hanks was trying to absorb
840
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:29.400
his fucking essence. And I mean it's so it's so
841
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.000
like gross and disturbing. It really is.
842
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.039
That kid from Forrest Gump. His name is Michael Connor Humphreys,
843
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.639
and he looks like a fucking MK ultra.
844
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:46.199
Dude, Sure your screen there, I want to see. Oh yeah,
845
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.519
is it like a newer picture.
846
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.760
Yeah, yeah, this is him.
847
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:55.039
Oh my god, he's fucked up.
848
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.320
I mean yeah, he looks Oh what is this? He's
849
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.000
in the middle military background.
850
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.760
Well, that's so I never saw that.
851
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.800
He never saw that coming. John.
852
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.719
Yeah, he's showing some movie posters. I don't know if
853
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.039
he's been in all these movies or what.
854
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.079
He definitely wasn't in Apollo thirteen.
855
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:20.719
He could have been one of the Meteors or something.
856
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.039
He seems to happen.
857
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.199
He loves Forrest Gump though, or not Forrest Gump freaking
858
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:30.000
Tom Hanks. But yeah, man, so yeah, he definitely looks
859
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:31.719
uh a little stock. It's a little weird.
860
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.800
He looks like a column Biden shooter, right, That's what
861
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:37.159
I'm saying.
862
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:38.719
He looks like just one of these people that's like
863
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.920
totally brainwashed. That's him.
864
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.639
He didn't he didn't bother to stick around the film industry.
865
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.760
Now it doesn't look like it, but he probably didn't
866
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:51.920
have community for it.
867
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.000
Oh Memphis, look at that. That's how That's probably why
868
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.000
his accent was so strong.
869
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:57.719
Yeah.
870
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:00.880
Yeah, he was sold from two thousand and five to
871
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.920
twenty twelve in Germany and Iraq and an international affairs student.
872
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.880
He calls himself a jack of all trades or some trades.
873
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.199
So my jack of some trades. Weird dude. Poor guy
874
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.360
we're sitting here making fun of him too. Probably had
875
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.320
a rough childhood, man.
876
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.400
Yeah, life is like a bugs chocolates.
877
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:24.920
Sure is.
878
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:31.440
Well, I don't know if we could steer the conversation.
879
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.880
You had one that you were going to ask John about.
880
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.760
Oh, I was so another one that came up to
881
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:39.280
me when I was kind of thinking about some of
882
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.320
these huge events that were highly publicized.
883
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:43.519
The O. J.
884
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.480
Simpson killings, to me, always had that element to it.
885
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:48.840
In fact, it is the prototype of the modern day
886
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:53.400
publicized celebrity trial. That was kind of like it was
887
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.079
the first one I can remember, but I you know,
888
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.800
I haven't been alive as long as you John, So
889
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.679
was that like unique when that happened to you? And
890
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.440
did you have triggers go off there?
891
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.079
That was?
892
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:04.440
It was?
893
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.280
That's That's an interesting one to bring up because that
894
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.400
was kind of one of the did we did we
895
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.880
talk about that whole You know, the celebrities, you know
896
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.519
when they when they play characters, you know, they're Jerry
897
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.920
Seinfeld characters is Jerry Seinfeld real person? It's a a
898
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.360
lot of times when when a when a a character
899
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:33.519
is retired, that human that was playing that character, you know,
900
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.519
say say the characters is retired, killed off or whatever.
901
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.800
You know, there's still a human being in real life
902
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.800
that now is out of a job because their character
903
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.039
is killed off. So sometimes they the industry will these
904
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.239
are actors, by the way, this is not you know,
905
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.639
I mean, they're playing a part and so they get
906
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.920
another part and they're playing something else. And a lot
907
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.800
of times they will you know, severely alter their appearance.
908
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.559
Sometimes they will slightly alter their appearance. I think one
909
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.960
of the one of the better examples of that is
910
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:16.679
the Jonathan Price, the current Pope when too many people
911
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.360
Jonathan Price is a pretty well known English actor that
912
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.360
I believe is also playing the Pope. So many people
913
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.039
caught that because they didn't do anything. Sometimes they'll change
914
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.480
the ear lobe, they'll do ear lob surgery, or they'll
915
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.920
you know, do something with the jaw line or change
916
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.559
the nose or whatever, but they didn't do anything with him.
917
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.719
Same just here Jonathan Price. So many people caught onto
918
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.599
that that they actually made a Netflix special about the
919
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.880
Pope starring Jonathan Price. It's a drama, so that people
920
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.519
it was kind of like that Capricorn one moon landing thing.
921
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.880
It's like it's like if you say, you're just talking
922
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:01.239
about the movie Capricorn one, you know, and so, but
923
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.840
back to the OJ thing, I will say this, Uh,
924
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.920
do do do a Google search, you know, for Nicole
925
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.800
Brown Simpson, and then do a Google search from Megan
926
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:20.599
Kelly and see if you if you notice that any
927
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.519
any similarities at all.
928
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:26.679
John, have you ever heard that Jim Morrison became Rush Limbaugh.
929
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.599
No, I've heard them. I haven't heard Rush the rush
930
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.320
Limbaugh thing. I've heard the Jim Morrison becomes Chevy Chase.
931
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.960
Oh, I haven't heard that one.
932
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.239
I actually have something I want to ask John.
933
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.039
About to Okay, he's for questions.
934
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.400
I watched. I don't know if it was the one Ryan,
935
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:49.960
I don't know if you were in on it or
936
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.320
if it was the first one you did with just Colby.
937
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:56.320
But I watched a couple of the episodes where you
938
00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:01.039
guys were talking about celebrities being like secretly men and
939
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.480
stuff like that, and then they Okay, I've studied a
940
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.599
lot about bone structure and physical markers, like if you
941
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.360
if someone found a skeleton that was a fucking skeleton,
942
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.000
they could tell you if it was a woman or
943
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.800
if it was a man, just based on skeleton. And
944
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.440
I've looked into that quite extensively, and a lot of
945
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.079
people and I'm with Ryan. I don't like to say community,
946
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.719
but a lot of conspiracy theorists in our group will like, Oh,
947
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.519
you're crazy. There's no way that was a man. There's
948
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:31.679
no way that was a chick.
949
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:32.320
Da da da.
950
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:40.679
But the confusion in like the inversion is super real and.
951
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:41.800
Their religion, right, Yeah.
952
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.159
And so I've looked at Nicole Brown Simpson in a
953
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.360
many videos and many photos, and she has all the
954
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:53.079
physical markers of being male at birth. She's got the
955
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.559
jawline and the bone structure of a biological male, and
956
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.679
I'll even pull up pictures of Nicole bra Simpson and
957
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.280
show them the jawline and the fingers, the kneecaps, and
958
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.480
she was tall too, and so the kids don't really
959
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.039
look like her at all. And I mean, I get
960
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.119
it in a racial kids sometimes they don't look like
961
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:18.440
the mom or whatever, but the kids clearly not at all.
962
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.920
And so I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
963
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:23.000
Like with Nicole?
964
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:29.760
Oh, I will I will go as far to say
965
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:36.159
that at this point in my lofe seeing and experiencing
966
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.480
what I have, and I actually I will. I'm not
967
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.960
going to, uh, I'm not going to go into specifics,
968
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:48.519
but you know, I spent my entire adult life in
969
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.920
the music industry, and I have worked behind the scenes
970
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.920
with some pretty major acts, and I've seen it with
971
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.320
my own eyes. I've seen how someone is one human
972
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:09.440
being is being presented as two completely different celebrities. So
973
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.440
you know, if if if I had any doubt, I've
974
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:15.960
seen it with my own eyes, so I know that
975
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:18.039
it is happening. I've actually seen it with my own
976
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.280
eyes on more than one occasion. M hmm.
977
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:25.400
But I really should pull up pictures of Nicole to
978
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.599
just kind of drive this point home. Let me see
979
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.599
if or Ryan, if you want to, that.
980
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.800
Is the common thread amongst all of the you look at.
981
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.559
You know, the people they call the elites, they're all eugenicists.
982
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.480
They're they're all into that, you know, eugenesis, the agenda
983
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.280
they're in the eugenics, that transhumanism, all of that stuff,
984
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.360
and it's it's an inversion. The topic of inversion is
985
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.719
a pillar of that belief. Up is down, right is left,
986
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:57.679
black is white?
987
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:02.039
The way is And did you say that Nicole turned into.
988
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.519
Well, I know, I just look, there's so much of
989
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:13.480
that character like recycling. I'm just calling it recycling. Or
990
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.320
we don't think twice when we see somebody like Brad
991
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.239
Pitt playing different characters in different movies, there's Brad Pitt
992
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.320
the actor, and he plays it. You know, we we don't,
993
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.559
you know, we don't really think that Brad Pitt is
994
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:35.480
Tyler L. Durden. He played Tyler Durton. So that if
995
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.800
it happens in the movies and these all, if why
996
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:41.840
was why does that only happen in the movies? Why
997
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:46.599
would that not happen in news, in sports, in any entertainment.
998
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.800
Because you're not really there anyways, you're just watching it
999
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:54.679
on a screen. And so when when they when they
1000
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:59.280
have to retire a character for whatever reason, there's still
1001
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.119
a human being that was playing that character, that is
1002
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.960
an employee that needs another job to do. And so
1003
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.280
I think that they are given other jobs. And that's
1004
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:14.079
not conspiratorial, that is not It's just part of its
1005
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.920
show business. Okay, Now they.
1006
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:16.920
Don't whole trial.
1007
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.079
The whole OJ trial was show business and the freaking
1008
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.800
race thing and Kim Kardashian's freaking dad and like all
1009
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:26.760
that stuff that's.
1010
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:30.480
Launched it launched that into the public conscious public consciousness.
1011
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.280
And so now out of the OJ trial, we now
1012
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.440
have the Kardashians who are in my opinion, those are
1013
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.920
all men, all of them.
1014
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.920
Oh John, you fucking said it, all.
1015
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.760
Of them and breaking back now not just Daddy, not
1016
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.320
not not just Bruce, all of them. Those are all
1017
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:55.400
trans and you know what because of and because of
1018
00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:03.280
the transhumanism eugenic agenda, almost like it's it's becoming normalized.
1019
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.599
It's becoming normalized. Like ten years ago when I you know,
1020
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.360
I I have a I have a friend who thinks
1021
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:17.320
that Jennifer Maniston is the most beautiful. It's a dude,
1022
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:22.280
you're a boss it dude, Like it's been going on
1023
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.039
a long time, a long time.
1024
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:30.360
I mean, well, they starts to become more abundantly evident
1025
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.639
to me, Like if you look at pictures of Jennifer
1026
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.079
Aniston right now, as she's aging, like the fucking the
1027
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.159
work is falling apart and like the bone age.
1028
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.039
Yeah, it gets it gets look at I mean, look
1029
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.719
at Nicole Kidman, obvious, it's look at Nan you know.
1030
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.119
Well, you know a lot of people didn't really bring
1031
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.719
this up and like talk about it as much as
1032
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.920
they should have. But Chloe Kardashian went from like a
1033
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.679
sexy looking like thicker chick with like her own kind
1034
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:04.079
of individuality from the other Kardashians overnight she starts like
1035
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.239
it's like they gave her a new skeleton or some ship.
1036
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.440
Like she doesn't even look like the same person and
1037
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.159
not be the same. But that's what I'm saying is
1038
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.239
like they can do whatever they want with that ship.
1039
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.480
I mean, how many different Stephen Hawkins. There's like five
1040
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.400
different Stephen Hawkins. You know, there's not a real one
1041
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:25.320
Hillary Clinton's. Have there been? How many different adeles look
1042
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.840
at like currently there's been like four or five different adels, Like.
1043
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:33.119
I don't want to believe that because I really I
1044
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.960
really would hope she just last weight.
1045
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.719
And like John wants to think that ice Cube is legit?
1046
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.360
Do you still John know after like the last year,
1047
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.800
because it's been about a year since we talked, and
1048
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:43.519
I give.
1049
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:47.559
You I'm I'm holding in. I'm holding in. I want
1050
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.039
to if that's gonna that's gonna hurt me if I
1051
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.280
if I find out that cubes in on all of this.
1052
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.079
I want to believe you know, if you don't see
1053
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:56.960
it now, I don't know if you.
1054
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.440
He doesn't know about it, but but I do. I
1055
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.559
do think that there are there there are those that
1056
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.199
have somehow, some way been able to do what they
1057
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:11.440
do in in in entertainment and for whatever reason, they're
1058
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.840
allowed to.
1059
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.639
About ice Cube in particular, did you like really like
1060
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.719
the Friday movies or something like?
1061
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.239
I mean lying if I said I Friday word for word,
1062
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:27.119
But no, I just I just I'm a I am
1063
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:31.320
a like a pro level music nerd. I have you
1064
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.519
know that my half of our bedroom is all like
1065
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.440
record bins and you know, like like I like I'm
1066
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.159
deep into into music, and you know, the the nw
1067
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:46.000
A record, Yeah, it was was just hugely influential to me.
1068
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.039
I loved that record. Now I don't like who any
1069
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:54.280
of those people became later in life, you know. I
1070
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.639
I I don't think I could even be in the
1071
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:59.119
same room with Dre without wanting to just like take
1072
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.920
a baseball bat do But but you know, but but
1073
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.320
Cube there was always he was always my favorite, you know,
1074
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:06.920
he was. He was my favorite of them. And I
1075
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:08.960
really loved what he did with his solo career, and
1076
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.679
you know, and he always seemed like one of those
1077
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.199
guys that like they just kind of left him alone
1078
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.639
and let him do it, let him do his thing. Well.
1079
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.239
Brought up eminem before too, and I have my own
1080
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.480
kind of theory about it. I know you do too.
1081
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.800
But I almost feel like when they take a celebrity
1082
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.559
or a musician and they start to do the bleaching
1083
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.760
of the hair and like the weirdness like that, that
1084
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:36.280
it's almost signaling like like the lights are on, but
1085
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:40.679
nobody's home. Like they've been fully indoctrinated, they've fully programmed.
1086
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.559
And so I don't know as much about like they
1087
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.280
switched him out as much as it's like, Okay, we
1088
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.400
fully controlled this person. Now you see it again and
1089
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.719
again with the bleached hair, like Lady Gaga, Britney Spears,
1090
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:56.599
Lindsay Lohan, Eminem they all went through this bleached hair,
1091
00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:00.480
crazy eyed, fucking weirdo phase. And it's like, I don't
1092
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.280
know if they've worked out necessarily, but like they've been,
1093
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:04.960
they're they're fucking not.
1094
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.119
I I would in my opinion, I don't think. I
1095
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.280
don't think Marshall Mathers has been swapped out. I just
1096
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:17.079
think he's been He's been drugged up and lobottomized. And
1097
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.119
you know, I mean he is he is. He is
1098
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.000
an asset.
1099
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.559
He doesn't even wrap the same as he used to.
1100
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.079
It's not the same like kind of flow. And I understand,
1101
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.880
you know, musicians can evolve and stuff, but his work
1102
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:31.880
is not the same as it used to be. Whatsoever.
1103
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.360
Real quick, I'm gonna show you guys my favorite body
1104
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.559
double conspiracy real fast. But he's still del Toro and
1105
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.440
fucking uh Brad there.
1106
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:42.280
I brought this up to Julie.
1107
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:42.960
Such a good one.
1108
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.280
Yeah, I mean, dude, people.
1109
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:49.679
People will argue they're dude. They both were in the
1110
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.880
movie Snatch. First of all, they didn't have a fucking
1111
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.519
scene together. And secondly, Eddie Murphy does that ship all
1112
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:54.880
the time.
1113
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.559
Yeah, you can fuck at Michael Myers too, right, I mean,
1114
01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.800
the dude's eighty different characters in one movie.
1115
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:05.559
Yeah, it's show business. These they're doing what they're paid
1116
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:06.000
to do.
1117
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:10.239
Right mm hmm yeah, man, Yeah, that's just my favorite
1118
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:11.519
one because I never thought about that.
1119
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.239
I always thought when Benicio started to get big in
1120
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.639
the nineties, like, god, he looks just like Brad Pitt
1121
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.280
with a little more ruggedness to him and easied enough
1122
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:22.719
to pull off.
1123
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:24.880
I just think about it.
1124
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.079
Oh, I've got a good one. So I was listening
1125
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.199
to this Cult of Conspiracy. They had a guy on
1126
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.079
there that was all into body doubles. He had some
1127
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.920
awesome theories about Jim Carrey we could get into. But
1128
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:39.280
he said something about Cedric the Entertainer being Martin Lawrence
1129
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.760
and I was like, no, they don't even look like
1130
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:43.840
at all. And then we watched a movie that week,
1131
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.199
Haunted House, that the Wayne's brothers put out. It's like
1132
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.840
a it mocks the horror movies and Cedric the entertainers
1133
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.920
in there. So that shit's fresh on my mind and
1134
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:56.679
I'm looking at him. I'm like, that is fucking Martin
1135
01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:59.559
Lawrence in a fat suit. The eyes of the fucking
1136
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.280
manner is the voice. And that guy said that. I laughed,
1137
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.440
and he ended up convincing me kind of like Bill
1138
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:05.960
Hicks out.
1139
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:12.800
I'm still not convinced on that one. You know, well,
1140
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.760
I will tell you why, John, I will tell you why.
1141
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:19.440
We had an argument.
1142
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.239
Lest we did have an argument because because fat bags
1143
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.400
under your eyes are hereditary, and Bill Hicks doesn't have
1144
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:31.000
the fat bags that Alex Jones quote unquote has. Even
1145
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.840
in that very first video of Alex Jones that I
1146
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:40.079
saw that you posted the fat bags hereditary?
1147
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:41.480
Why could you not?
1148
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.000
You could botox that, like fill it up to make
1149
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:46.280
it look like the fat bags.
1150
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:48.960
I mean, that's very true.
1151
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.599
The nose is different, so the teeth. The teeth also
1152
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.280
bothered me. I think they're different.
1153
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.000
The voice analysis is also very interesting.
1154
01:02:58.599 --> 01:02:59.920
Yeah, they are right.
1155
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.199
And what do you say on that one, Bill Hicks
1156
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:03.400
Alex Jones.
1157
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.039
Dude, I I think it's very plausible because Alex Jones
1158
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.679
looks a lot older than fifty years old.
1159
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:08.199
Dude.
1160
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.400
That was one key thing for me too when I
1161
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.519
first looked him up when I was interested in his work.
1162
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.519
When he first emerged, I was like, that guy's ten
1163
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.280
years older than me. He looks like he could be
1164
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:18.800
my fucking like old dad.
1165
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.559
Yeah, he looks like he's seventy.
1166
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.119
Let me let me let me post something here. This
1167
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.519
this is specific to the Bill Hicks Alex Jones thing.
1168
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:33.159
And and again I'm not I'm not going to use
1169
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:37.960
a specific name, but this is someone that we all
1170
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:43.199
are very aware of. Big, big, big, big celebrity that
1171
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.840
I worked alongside for a couple of years. I do
1172
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.360
know that this what I'm about to tell you occurs.
1173
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:56.800
This celebrity, very very very very very famous, very well known,
1174
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.519
was not uh. The brand of this person was pretty
1175
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.679
pretty squeaky clean, and this person wanted to keep it
1176
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:11.119
that way. And the industry, the powers that be, were
1177
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.119
wanting this person to move into different verticals so to speak,
1178
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:19.000
that this person was not comfortable with doing. And so
1179
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:22.480
a h there was a talk, there were some negotiations,
1180
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:30.039
and this person was given some options, and one of
1181
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:37.519
the options was two, you can continue to be an
1182
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:45.000
employee and we'll keep you employed, but not at what
1183
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:49.159
you're accustomed to. Now you know you're you're you're gonna you're, you're,
1184
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.840
your opportunities are going to significantly decrease, and you can
1185
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.519
continue and you can just do what you want and uh,
1186
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.679
you're going to sign this NDA about this conversation, You'll
1187
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.679
never you commit again. And and you could go that route.
1188
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.519
You could you could completely play ball with us and uh,
1189
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:14.400
come on board and then do what we've discussed. Or
1190
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:20.519
we can basically kill off the character, kill off your
1191
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.519
character publicly, or and and and and then we'll just
1192
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.400
you'll get nothing in royalties and we'll make tons because
1193
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.880
there'll be people buying your stuff. The fourth option was
1194
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:36.840
you can sell out to us. We'll just buy you
1195
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:43.440
out and put somebody else. You'll your character will continue on,
1196
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:46.880
but it'll be somebody else. Hey, what happens.
1197
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.639
With without asking you who this is? Is this somebody
1198
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:52.840
we would know? Like households? Oh? Absolutely?
1199
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:54.079
Are you going to.
1200
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:59.719
Reveal the name? Thinking about the Taylor Swift thing?
1201
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:04.079
For well that I'm also I could go downstairs and
1202
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.840
get you a picture that I that Taylor gave me
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01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:12.559
the day. Me, about five six other people, her father
1204
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.480
and a small a small team of us stuffed CDs
1205
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.760
into padded envelopes to send him send radio for her
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01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.639
very first single. Tim McGraw, So I've actually seen the
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01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.119
Taylor Swift story from the get.
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01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.559
Go and prote prototype.
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01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.480
Yeah yeah, and and and I and I and I can,
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01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.480
I can. I can say with utmost certainty that the
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01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.639
person that's the photo that I have that signed and
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01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.000
you can see uh And and I would love you
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01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:50.239
talk jaw lines and facial structures. What what is being
1214
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:51.679
presented publicly now?
1215
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:55.920
It's the guy that played Napoleon Dynamite, not even he's
1216
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:56.639
the current.
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01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:04.159
What I get behind that? Yeah? I would well, I.
1218
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.480
Actually I told Colby when I heard you say that,
1219
01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.639
and then I want you to finish your story actually
1220
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.960
because I'm really interested in how that turned out. But
1221
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.920
I worked for a doctor and she is she's a
1222
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.159
general surgeon, but she's also a prostadantist. And she said
1223
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:28.440
Taylor Swift has had the same Veneers since she first
1224
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:34.320
came onto the scene until now venss and she's like
1225
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.639
her gun lines are starting to receive because she needs
1226
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:42.239
new Veneers and so that like, how far do you
1227
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.440
think they'd take it? Like if they switched out the
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01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.039
real tailor, would they put the same teeth on them,
1229
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.000
or like, how far do you think it goes?
1230
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:55.360
I think that there are probably more than one stage
1231
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.239
and TV tailors at this point. I think they probably have,
1232
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.639
you know, a couple again. You know, I think in
1233
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.519
one of our previous conversations Colby that I mean, I mean,
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01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:10.960
I mean they it was in the news when his
1235
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:14.360
body double died, you know, I mean that's what they said,
1236
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.720
that that guy appeared as Eminem on stage and at
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01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:21.439
wards ceremonies and stuff. So we we know that that happens,
1238
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.239
and why wouldn't it. It's show business, you know.
1239
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:26.960
Well, do you think the real Taylor pops up every
1240
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.159
now and again, like for photos or something, or.
1241
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:34.399
If you are, if you're asking my personal opinion on
1242
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.680
Taylor Swift in particular, based upon my experience, I would
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01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.680
say that it is not outside the rem of possibility
1244
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.279
that the real Taylor Swift got bought out and is
1245
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.840
probably chilling on some remote beach somewhere with with Tom
1246
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:58.560
Petty and David Bowie and Carnell is really dead though, right,
1247
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.359
oh gosh, unfourly I think I think Cornell is, yeah,
1248
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:02.920
because he.
1249
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.439
Was getting smart about some ship. But anyways, back to
1250
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:07.640
your story about.
1251
01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:13.600
I mean, yeah, so this person decided to play ball,
1252
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:19.520
and now this person is not squeaky clean anymore and
1253
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:23.760
or is doing things that that they would not have
1254
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:31.680
wanted to do without being coerced and and songs uh
1255
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.720
I uh yeah yeah. But but these are these are business.
1256
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.720
I mean again, this type of stuff happens in business
1257
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.159
every single day. I mean, you know, I mean we
1258
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.199
have all worked for people, and you know I have,
1259
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.039
I have had you know, people that I've worked for,
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01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.119
you know, call me into the office and go, John,
1261
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:52.000
we we want you to do this, or you know,
1262
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:54.720
we're we're gonna, we're gonna reassign you and put you here,
1263
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.479
and you know, and and you either go, yeah, I'll
1264
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.479
do it, or you go no, I quit. And in
1265
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:07.880
the case of these celebrity scenarios, you can't just quit
1266
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:13.479
because there's there's non disclosure agreements and confidentiality scenarios and
1267
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:19.920
and so they they will, you know, if if you've
1268
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:24.439
reached in order to reach a certain level of celebrity,
1269
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:26.800
those conversations have already taken place.
1270
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.039
So and they're also saying that they don't necessarily ever
1271
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.119
really have to kill them, like actually take the person out.
1272
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.000
But do you think sometimes they might?
1273
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:37.479
I think sometimes they do, but I but I think
1274
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:40.239
it's a choice. You know, It's like Colby if you've
1275
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:43.039
been a good employee but you're honestly just burnt out
1276
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:45.359
or your heart's just not in it anymore, and you
1277
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.399
come to me and you go, man, I don't think
1278
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:51.880
I can do this anymore. Based upon your value and
1279
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:53.640
what we got going on and how much money is
1280
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:55.840
at stake, I might let you walk.
1281
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.399
You know, if this story that they were telling in
1282
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.880
a Star was born, like the first one I think
1283
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:05.239
had Judy Garland in it, but this the remake of it,
1284
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.560
had Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.
1285
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.159
I've never well, I think the first one had had
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01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:13.319
Barbara streisand oh did it?
1287
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.520
No? That was the second one? It was actually has.
1288
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.840
There has that been? Movie has been made three times?
1289
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.039
Yeah, remakes.
1290
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:24.439
Chris Christopher seen in Barbara streissand was the remake and
1291
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:25.479
then the second game make.
1292
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.600
I didn't realize that that the streyssand Christofferson one was
1293
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:29.039
a remake.
1294
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.520
I thought that was me Garland played the original role.
1295
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.680
I was gonna say, I think that's significant because of
1296
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.359
what they did to her like throughout her entire life,
1297
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.159
that they would choose her for that movie and then
1298
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.680
later on choose Lady Gaga because I mean, there's so
1299
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:44.840
many theories about her.
1300
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.399
I could find nothing ruins a movie like Lady Gaga
1301
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.760
does nothing ruins a movie. Worse, she's the worst.
1302
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:55.760
But I mean that Joe gibber is supposedly good.
1303
01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:58.000
No, I'm not a fan of him either.
1304
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:04.079
There we go. I mean that one's like actually low
1305
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:09.359
hanging trans inversion fruit because fucking family guy even had
1306
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.840
a joke about it. So that one, to me is
1307
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.439
almost like they just put it in their face.
1308
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.119
They did an interview and they asked, she I want
1309
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:21.199
so bad, so what if I am like pretty much
1310
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.439
saying freaking an answer, yeah, yeah.
1311
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.439
Well yeah, that's also like the trans agenda, right, Like
1312
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.439
that's something that even if she was like a chick,
1313
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.159
she would say that because like I was seeing this
1314
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.159
thing with Ariana Grande. She was talking about how the
1315
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.560
new Wicked movie is like fully trans like even the
1316
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:39.039
chickens in the movie or trans and all this weird shit,
1317
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:40.800
so strange, but.
1318
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:45.079
Right from the horse's mouth, right right, like talk about
1319
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.479
a square draw line man that oh on Disney.
1320
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.479
She she looked like a little boy when she was
1321
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:56.319
on Disney shows. John, you were saying something earlier before,
1322
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.039
before we moved too far away from it. You know,
1323
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.760
you were talking about you know, you have these options
1324
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.359
when you're a celebrity and you're wanting to like kind
1325
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.520
of phase out or whatever. Have any of you guys
1326
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.640
seen the Substance movie yet? The movie called The Substance.
1327
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:11.439
It's a great I recommend it to you, guys. Man.
1328
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:17.039
Demi Moore is like an old another one. Yeah, well, yeah,
1329
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:21.079
I know she's got that's another one. But Demi Moore
1330
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:23.399
is like aging out of Hollywood, and it looks like
1331
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.279
it takes place in like the eighties or something. They're
1332
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:28.079
doing a lot of those like live exercise shows where
1333
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.479
you know, the girls are wearing bright colors and they're
1334
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.479
doing you know, jazz or size. And she wants to
1335
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:37.439
like she's basically getting fired from her gig, from this
1336
01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:40.800
piece of ship producer, and she wants to make herself young,
1337
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:42.920
and she gets this thing called the Substance that can
1338
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.560
make her young. And it's a fucking great movie. The
1339
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.640
end of it turns into like a guar concert. It
1340
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.039
gets kind of wild, but it's.
1341
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:52.439
Sponsored by a drenochrome.
1342
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.359
I mean it, it's not a drenochrome.
1343
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.920
It's it's that would be a nice gar you know
1344
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:01.359
Kaien where you got the Blood?
1345
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.199
Well no, yeah, the end of it is just like
1346
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:06.439
I said you if you watch it, man, you'll understand
1347
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:08.800
what I'm talking about. It it looks like a Gore concert.
1348
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.199
But yeah, it's not in adrenochrome thing, but it's similar.
1349
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.439
And I don't want to give any away, but I
1350
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.680
recommend it to all you guys because it's a it's
1351
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:18.439
a phenomenal movie, even if you got to pay like
1352
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:20.159
three bucks or whatever to rent it or I mean
1353
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:22.359
there's free streaming sites all over the place, but yeah,
1354
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:23.560
watch that movie asap.
1355
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.600
So is it like the concept is swapping out like
1356
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.880
the old Blood for the new Blood, And like, I.
1357
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.399
Mean, I don't want to get into it at all
1358
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.479
because when you see what happens, it's not it's not
1359
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:37.439
at all. Like if I even like told you what
1360
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.600
it was, it would like be like oh okay. But
1361
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:42.960
I mean it's it's worth a watch for sure. And
1362
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:44.439
if you guys want to watch it for free, I
1363
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.880
got the free hookup on movie sites it's a you know,
1364
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:52.159
bootleg side. They're all over the place, so let me know.
1365
01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:54.920
But yeah, it's where it's worth the watch. No, for sure,
1366
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.159
the Substance nice.
1367
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:00.720
Appreciate the tip absolutely.
1368
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.079
Yeah, if you're into any of this kind of stuff,
1369
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.600
like the body doubles, the you know, even even a
1370
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:08.239
drain and chrome, even though it's not a drain of chrome,
1371
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.439
it's it's it's a movie for a lot of people
1372
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:11.960
in this world.
1373
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.479
I think that's kind of like I obviously haven't seen it,
1374
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.399
but like when I watched Doctor Sleep for the first time,
1375
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:22.920
I was like, oh my god, this is like conspiracy
1376
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.000
theorist fucking dream movie right here. It had so much shit.
1377
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:27.079
Did you watch it? John?
1378
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.560
No. I actually kind of have a no no Hollywood policy.
1379
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.199
I got I got burned by Hollywood early in life,
1380
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:36.039
and I was like, I'm never giving them another minute.
1381
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:38.960
Yeah you movies or anything.
1382
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:42.680
I will if if I'm researching something, and and and
1383
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.880
it's you know, I have to know what I'm talking about.
1384
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.279
I will, but no for.
1385
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:49.680
Not for you, not for your leisure.
1386
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.439
No, So you're not going to watch the Substance, then
1387
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:55.720
that's the tip.
1388
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:01.159
I'm first of all, Ryan, I was being light. I
1389
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:06.479
appreciate that exactly. Secondly, I actually I probably will since
1390
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:08.720
you you you've piqued my interest with the subject matter,
1391
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.319
and that might be a nice reference to using a
1392
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:12.399
later conversation, so.
1393
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.680
Research research purposes there you go ask you what do
1394
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.159
you think? Because obviously you were burned by Hollywood. But
1395
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.239
one of my favorite things as well as Julia and
1396
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.279
Ray and I'm sure you have intense interest in this.
1397
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.840
It's the topic of Stanley Kubrick. And I mean, what,
1398
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:32.840
what's your whole take on all of that stuff?
1399
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:32.960
Like?
1400
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:35.760
Who was he? What was he into? Was he intelligence?
1401
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:37.039
Was he a fucking asset?
1402
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.119
Wouldn't it have been awesome to talk to Stanley Kubrick
1403
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.600
about Laurel Canyon? Oh?
1404
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:46.760
I bet anything?
1405
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:51.439
Man, You guys, writer Lee just did a movie a
1406
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.439
Clockwork Shining is what it's called. You have to rent
1407
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:57.960
it on Amazon Prime documentary. Yeah, it's a documentary about
1408
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.960
Kubrick making the Shining and the whole theory about it
1409
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.920
being an mk Ultra project. But it's interesting because he
1410
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.319
ties in Laurel Canyon, the book Catcher in the Rye
1411
01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:09.920
and mk ltr assassins and stuff like that. But it's
1412
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:12.319
really it brought some stuff to the forefront. I hadn't
1413
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:12.640
heard of it.
1414
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.479
Well, I know Ryan's into it because I this is
1415
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:18.439
forever ago. Ryan, you probably won't even remember. But I
1416
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.479
went on his show and I talked about like all
1417
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.359
the weird stuff in the Shining, and I think we
1418
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:26.640
both kind of had a theory on it. But Kubrick
1419
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.399
is like a fucking Pandora's Box.
1420
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.279
My favorite movie of his is Freaking Eyes Wide Shut,
1421
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.000
and a lot of people hate that movie, but I
1422
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.760
can watch that movie over and over again, man, Like
1423
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.520
I usually put it on at night when I'm tired
1424
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.119
because it's kind of slow. But oh what a good movie.
1425
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.600
Mm hmm everything in there?
1426
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.319
Is that really a favorite of yours? Right? Yeah?
1427
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.159
One hundred percent out of all his movies, Like, if
1428
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.720
I was ranking them, it'd be that I like a
1429
01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:55.800
clockwork Orange lot shining.
1430
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:57.560
Clockwork Orange is my number one.
1431
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.479
It's great too.
1432
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.479
The reason reason I asked is, I, uh, you know,
1433
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.680
I I having worked in the music industry my whole
1434
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.640
life and being a collector of pop culture, I have
1435
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.520
hundreds of thousands of pieces of pop culture history and
1436
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.159
I'm recently going through just thousands and thousands of posters
1437
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.279
that I have And I just found a nick I
1438
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.680
used to work. I used to work for the management
1439
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.359
company that manages Keith Urban, and I was on Keith
1440
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.880
Urban's team for for for years doing some web stuff.
1441
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:32.399
And uh so so I've actually and he he and
1442
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:38.399
Nicole are residents, uh here in Nashville, and so they're
1443
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:43.720
they're spotted about town on a regular basis. And yeah, yeah,
1444
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:47.560
so so I, uh, I was pulling out some Nicole
1445
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.039
Kidman posters to have mounted, and and and and I.
1446
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.279
I've got a buddy that has has a record shop
1447
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:54.840
and he sells a lot of this this stuff for me.
1448
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.680
And yeah, but but I found an eyes wide a
1449
01:18:57.720 --> 01:18:59.880
couple of eyes wide shut posters. If you if you're
1450
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:01.199
in man, I'll send you one.
1451
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:04.560
Oh I would love one. Yeah what I mean, what
1452
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:05.239
are you charging?
1453
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:10.039
Dude, I'll send it to you, Okay, gift Ryan, We've
1454
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:10.680
already got.
1455
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:15.319
In the back.
1456
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.920
Oh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, man, I'll send my address
1457
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:19.560
on the chat here.
1458
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:20.079
Yeah.
1459
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:22.439
Absolutely, I don't want to put it out there forever.
1460
01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:28.359
John this is and now I can docs Ryan and
1461
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:29.920
fucking stuck his house.
1462
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:33.079
And the well, dude, what so you know what's crazy, man,
1463
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.159
I did an episode on the cartel and someone sent
1464
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.239
me my address. Someone sent me my address.
1465
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:40.680
Are you serious?
1466
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.920
Yeah? And then like a couple of weeks after that,
1467
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.199
someone was following me around at work and ship and
1468
01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:46.239
I called the police and everything.
1469
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:48.119
Dude, it was, Fuck, you're not one of those guys
1470
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:49.880
when you say something like that. I think you're being
1471
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.279
paranoid because you're like a reasonable guy. Yeah.
1472
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.000
Yeah, And I carry a gun on me and stuff,
1473
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:56.439
and like this dude has following me. I'm like, I'm
1474
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.199
not trying to fucking use this thing. But yeah, it
1475
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:01.439
was that night, and it was it was when we
1476
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:04.399
were wearing masks and this dude was wearing a mask,
1477
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.880
he had a hoodie on. Uh, followed me out of
1478
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:08.600
the store. I got in my truck. He looked at
1479
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.720
my license plate and then got in his car, which
1480
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.800
was behind mine. And it was dark out still. You know,
1481
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:16.079
I was working at Pepsi, so we're servicing stores like
1482
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:16.520
five in the.
1483
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:18.319
So this was this was a while ago. That makes
1484
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:18.960
me feel better.
1485
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.920
Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, And and yeah, dude,
1486
01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:24.880
like this guy he's followed me out of the out
1487
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:26.600
of the parking lot with his lights off, his head
1488
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.800
lights off, and he's just like staying behind me. I
1489
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.560
turned around and I got out, and I carried my
1490
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:33.399
gun in a fanny pack and I held the fanny
1491
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.279
pack up. He probably just thought I was showing in
1492
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:37.760
my fanny pack, and I pointed out. I was like, dude,
1493
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:41.039
get the fuck away from me, man, And yeah I was.
1494
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:43.359
It was very fucking scary. And I usually don't get
1495
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:46.239
rattled by ship, but I even that morning, I woke
1496
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:47.640
up and I felt like I don't want to leave
1497
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.359
my house today, like just for whatever reason, I felt
1498
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:53.399
real weird and uh, and yeah that ended up happening. Manut,
1499
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:56.840
it was pretty fucking scary. So I don't talk about
1500
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:03.760
the cartel anymore. And you guys, dangerous topic. Sorry, I
1501
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:05.800
guess I can't hit entry here. It's just gonna send
1502
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:06.720
you one line at a time.
1503
01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:13.039
But yeah, John, i'd love to hear any overscoping like
1504
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.000
stuff about Kubrick you have. If if that's something you
1505
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.399
ever looked into the moon landing and all that shit.
1506
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:22.319
Well, I mean I think he And again I wasn't kidding.
1507
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:26.520
I bet you he would have had some incredible insight
1508
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:29.960
into especially the you know the base that was there
1509
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.319
in Laurel Canyon that had you know, that had the
1510
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:37.279
Lookout Mountain Studios, Yes State, which doesn't Jared Ledo own
1511
01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:37.880
that building.
1512
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:39.960
He does now he has a cult up there. And
1513
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.159
he dresses like Jesus. He's like you with a beard
1514
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.039
and a white robe.
1515
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:45.880
Dude, Jared let is a weird guy.
1516
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:46.159
Man.
1517
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:51.560
I talk about good movies too, freaking what's the what's
1518
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.880
the drug? When he's in I can't believe it.
1519
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.039
Quen for a Dream one of my top five movies.
1520
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:58.119
Requeen for a Dream is great. It's disturbing as all hell,
1521
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:00.159
but really good movie.
1522
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.680
I think I think at that time there there weren't
1523
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:09.399
as many creatives that had the creativity and the technical
1524
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:14.359
ability that and and that Kubrick had. You know, it's
1525
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.760
now just because of the way communication is. You know,
1526
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:20.800
there's there's kids in garages and you know down the
1527
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.119
street that can that can do amazing things. But I
1528
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:28.960
think Kubrick was was tapped from an early age and
1529
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.760
and and was was an asset and was utilized and
1530
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.760
created content and whether or not he knew what that
1531
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:42.680
content was gonna be used for, how it was going
1532
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.600
to be used. I think it's probably open for debate,
1533
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.479
but I think he was. He was probably probably tapped
1534
01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:51.520
at an early age, maybe even born into it. And
1535
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:56.439
and that's just what he did. And and I think
1536
01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:03.119
that these people that if you had, if you have
1537
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:08.680
any remnants of a soul at all, and you have
1538
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.960
a conscience, or just if you can feel, if you
1539
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:19.000
know that you are contributing to something bad and nefarious,
1540
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.880
I think these these these people have to they have
1541
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:28.880
to express that somehow. I think it maybe karmically helps
1542
01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:32.279
clear their conscience or you know. And so you've got
1543
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:36.720
you know, Kubrick. You know, clearly, for whatever reason, left
1544
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:40.399
a lot of clues and a lot of you know,
1545
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:45.159
Easter eggs and things and and and clearly it wasn't
1546
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.720
just because he was a creative individual. There was meaning behind.
1547
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:54.319
I mean, look at you know, yeah, you've got the whole.
1548
01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:58.199
You know Eric Schmidt who wrote nineteen eighty four under
1549
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:01.800
the pen name orwell, you know, I mean it's you know,
1550
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.199
there there is no George orwell that's just a that's
1551
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.439
just a pen name. It's just a stage name.
1552
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.560
He looks a lot like Henry Lee Lucas. Have you
1553
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.680
ever seen a picture of George Orwell and Henry Lee
1554
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:13.800
Lucas side by side?
1555
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:16.880
No, but not, you think I mean, I could see
1556
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:18.239
very similar.
1557
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:21.199
Yeah, I mean another one that I thought was interesting
1558
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.439
is Terence McKenna and the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski. Their voice,
1559
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.159
their voices are identical, and if you like look at
1560
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.359
them side by side, they look different. But it doesn't
1561
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.800
seem like anything that could be impossible to pull off.
1562
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:37.680
Well, I mean, you know again, you're talking about characters.
1563
01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:41.520
You know, the Unibomber was a character. Yeah, it was
1564
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:44.079
a you know, well, I know you.
1565
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:47.199
You obviously can't be one hundred percent on this, so
1566
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:51.159
I just want your opinion. But there are so many
1567
01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:55.720
different trains of thought on if Kubrick was involved to
1568
01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:59.159
a certain degree himself in some of this weirdness, like
1569
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.520
the petost and like some people think he's like a
1570
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:06.000
good guy that wasn't. But I mean some of the clues,
1571
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:09.840
as you were saying, in the movies, especially Ice Wide Shut,
1572
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:12.520
allude to him knowing about it. Whether or not he
1573
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.840
took part in it, that's up for debate. But it's sex.
1574
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.960
You didn't see Doctor Sleep because it's just the continuation
1575
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.319
of the shining, and in my opinion, that's all the
1576
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.199
movie was about was pedophilia.
1577
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:28.640
It's a drenochrome. I mean, they take this, these young
1578
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:32.640
kids with this gift, the shining, and they drain them.
1579
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:33.199
Mm hmm.
1580
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:34.640
I mean it's nice.
1581
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:38.079
It's stab them and shit like suck this stuff out
1582
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.560
of the stab holes like it's fucked up.
1583
01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:46.399
You know, the whole the whole topic of blood. That's
1584
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.840
you know, i'd said earlier in the earlier conversation, the
1585
01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:52.279
the you call him the elite or whatever name you
1586
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.079
want to give that layer of the powers that shouldn't
1587
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:58.640
be I said. A common thread running through them is
1588
01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:02.840
as they're all, you know, they all all love transhumanism, eugenics,
1589
01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:06.279
stuff like. That's that's that's their their religion. And blood
1590
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:08.359
seems to be another common thread.
1591
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:09.359
Blood and children.
1592
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.359
Well, where do you get blood from? I mean, like
1593
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:17.880
like anything, if if if you if you want if
1594
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.239
you want lettuce, you want fresh lettuce, you don't want
1595
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:22.680
old lettuce. You know, if you want tomatoes, you want
1596
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.920
fresh tomatoes, you don't want old tomatoes. And so the
1597
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.920
blood thing that the child tie in just makes perfect
1598
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:35.159
sense because the best freshest blood would again using fruit
1599
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:40.039
or meat or any other analogy you want, young, fresh,
1600
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.279
whatever it is. And so, but but blood seems to
1601
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.880
be a common thread amongst them. They, you know, I mean,
1602
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:50.119
Hollywood's been pretty open. I mean, you've got celebrities that
1603
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.199
have bathed in it. They use it for cut cosmetically.
1604
01:26:53.319 --> 01:27:00.720
I mean, I see commercials on TV, uh for know serum,
1605
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.920
you know, face serum is Look look at the definition
1606
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.840
of serum. It's blood, you know. So it's just a kinder,
1607
01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:11.760
more you know, bougie way of saying blood, you know.
1608
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.199
And so the celebrities have been using blood cosmetically. And
1609
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:21.840
I can tell you, I can tell you with absolute
1610
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:26.720
certainty in my own life. You know, I mentioned my
1611
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:31.920
wife being handicapped. My wife and our youngest son happened
1612
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.840
to be the same blood type, which would make sense
1613
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:38.840
mother and son being the same blood type. When my
1614
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:45.880
son was seventeen, they took blood from my son, his young,
1615
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:50.079
vibrant blood, and injected it in key places into my
1616
01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:54.560
wife and helped hurt some of her joints, move and everything.
1617
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:56.840
So I mean, and they they do, I mean these
1618
01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:00.279
that that's PRP, you know, plasma replacement there that they
1619
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.479
do this. I mean, people do it for cosmetic reasons
1620
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.600
all the time. My wife did it for functionality reasons.
1621
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:10.800
But I mean, young blood introduced into an older body
1622
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.680
does have positive effects. You know, I've I've literally seen
1623
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.720
it with my own son. And and then please don't
1624
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:23.560
think that we belong to some weird blood called by professionals.
1625
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:29.600
His name was Larry. You know, this was done by professionals.
1626
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.920
But but but I mean, I I've seen it with
1627
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.079
my own eyes that young blood introduced into an older
1628
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:39.600
body has positive side effects. And you know, in my
1629
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:42.119
wife's case, it was it was functional, and it was
1630
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:44.159
it was from her son, and there was no there
1631
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.600
was no nefarious stuff going on there. And again it
1632
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:50.399
was done by professionals. But there is a huge amount
1633
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:54.079
of truth. And and I'm not saying that I agree
1634
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.479
with it, but I can certainly understand if if if
1635
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:02.560
it was somebody's desire to live younger, look younger, be stronger,
1636
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:09.560
strive for immortality. Maybe yeah, what that that makes perfect sense.
1637
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:13.199
And and Kubrick, because of where he was positioned and
1638
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.800
how he was positioned, I have no doubt he probably
1639
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:22.920
saw some horrific things and and there are things and
1640
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:25.600
and and you know, think about what what we all
1641
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.000
consider to be normal. I mean, this is normal sitting
1642
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.600
in our rooms talking on a computer to each other,
1643
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:34.000
This is normal conversation. But in in in a whole
1644
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.000
other world, you know, drinking the blood of young children
1645
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:41.319
is considered normal, you know. And so it could it
1646
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.920
be that, you know, he was just he was just
1647
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:47.920
trying to get release some of that horror and guilt
1648
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:50.840
and shame that that he was feeling. And he was
1649
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.239
clearly good batter. Otherwise, he was a creative guy, you know,
1650
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:57.079
and and and he maybe that was just his way
1651
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:01.399
of of of getting it out, you know, And like
1652
01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:03.720
it was like it was schmidze of you know, he
1653
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.920
created the Orwell pen name, and he you know, look
1654
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.119
at how much of nineteen eighty four is you know,
1655
01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:14.119
you know that that was fiction at one point. Now
1656
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.800
it's not like there's a lot of nineteen eighty four
1657
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:18.079
that's real.
1658
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.920
Now, you know. Yeah. I heard in the in the UK,
1659
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:24.720
specifically like Scotland, it's illegal to pray in your head now,
1660
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.399
Like you can't say a prayer, like a mental prayer,
1661
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:31.880
you can't do that, like you know, obviously they wouldn't know. Well,
1662
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:33.439
like if you're sitting there and you're like bowing your
1663
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:36.680
head and closing your eyes then and they saw you
1664
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.319
doing that, you could get arrested for it, which is
1665
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.079
I mean, that's that's pretty orwell in right there. But
1666
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.279
you were talking about Johnny, you were talking about transhumanism.
1667
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.560
Are you familiar with cosmism? We might have talked about
1668
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:49.239
it in the past a little bit when we spoke
1669
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:54.840
last time. Familiar with what was Russian cosmism. No, it's
1670
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:57.960
kind of like transhumanism. It's just like the way that
1671
01:30:58.079 --> 01:30:59.920
I mean, I've done a couple episodes on it because
1672
01:30:59.920 --> 01:31:01.800
I found it fascinating. It has to do with like
1673
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:05.199
bringing the dead back to life. There's a lot of
1674
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.279
transhuman you know, components to it, but it's basically a
1675
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.800
conservative version of transhumanism, where transhumanism is more like liberal
1676
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.359
they would say. But yeah, cosmism like this, there's this
1677
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:20.279
kid he was talking about Rogan and Alex Jones and
1678
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:23.920
all this stuff and talking about how they're cosmists. And
1679
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:25.720
that's not a term that gets used a lot because
1680
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.560
transhumanism is so trendy and people talk about that a lot.
1681
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:30.920
With Elon Musk and all that, but it seems like
1682
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:31.800
they would maybe.
1683
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.199
Is it cosmic like cosmic cos.
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01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:43.239
Yeah, let me make sure on the spelling cos im
1685
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:47.560
Russian cause Russian. Yeah, okay, here this is what it is.
1686
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:55.039
I'll share my screen real quick. Wikipedia is asking for money, yeah,
1687
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:58.399
right here, Russian cosmism cosmism.
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01:31:58.399 --> 01:31:59.920
Oh yeah, I'm definitelynn look at that.
1689
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.520
Yeah, it's a fascinating topic, man, And there's a lot
1690
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.439
there's a lot of like related topics you can get
1691
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:09.560
into too, but yeah, it's a it's a weird thing
1692
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:12.239
and there's a lot of uh, you know, new age
1693
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:17.119
components to it. But it's uh yeah, bringing people back
1694
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:21.319
from the dead using AI and and Amazon and big
1695
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:25.800
companies like that to create like a brain net type situation.
1696
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.680
And yeah, it's it's a dark topic, but it's very interesting. Man.
1697
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:33.439
The neuralink is described in such a way like a
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01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:34.439
brain web.
1699
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:37.079
Right exactly. So yeah, it has a lot to do
1700
01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:38.680
with that. And I kind of feel like, after you
1701
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:40.640
look into cosmism a little bit, it kind of seems
1702
01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.840
like the transhumanism talks almost a distraction.
1703
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:46.680
Yeah, like look over here, that's that's because that makes
1704
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:50.199
Elon Musk couldn't be in a more fucking public place.
1705
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:51.840
And if you would have told me two years ago
1706
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:56.520
that he would be actually on the presidential administration, Fuck,
1707
01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.560
why not? I guess Thank god.
1708
01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.760
He comes from normal parents.
1709
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:04.159
Oh yeah, yeah, his whole story is one hundred percent true.
1710
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:07.479
I was exactly, Yeah, he's him and Zuckerberg.
1711
01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:10.760
Dude, I felt so stupid one time watching a documentary
1712
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:13.479
and I felt that, like, Elon Musk was so brilliant
1713
01:33:13.479 --> 01:33:16.399
when I watched this, because in this he says that
1714
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.079
he lost his fear of the dark when he was
1715
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:22.239
two years old because he understood that all that a
1716
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.920
dark molecule is versus a light molecule is it's just
1717
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.720
the same molecule without an electron in it. And he
1718
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:31.439
understood that at two years old, he said. And I'm thinking, wow,
1719
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.600
that's fucking brilliant for a two year old.
1720
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.399
It sounds like Terrence Howard going on Joe Rogan and
1721
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:39.239
saying that his mom used to put light on her
1722
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:41.560
stomach and that made him that was proof that his
1723
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:43.359
son and him remembered their birds.
1724
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:46.720
I was like, what, Yeah, I don't remember anything before
1725
01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:47.760
I was like four or five.
1726
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:49.399
That's pretty good.
1727
01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:52.920
They have They have stories like that about Nikola Tesla too.
1728
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:55.960
He was born in a lightning storm and it's fucking
1729
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:59.239
lightning bolt went in her pussy and fucking zapped.
1730
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.920
Him in the h that's like that his superpowers.
1731
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.079
Yeah, they have stories like that about Nikola Tesla, anybody
1732
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.359
who ends up doing something like that. And again, people
1733
01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:12.399
have different theories on Nikola Tesla, who he was, you
1734
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.119
know whatever, but he does have an interesting story.
1735
01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:20.760
Does have an interesting story, and it's interesting because what
1736
01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:26.520
the like Musk and and forget the Tesla car thing.
1737
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:32.720
Musk is kind of the modern day version of what Tesla.
1738
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:36.880
It's it's it's it's almost like character. They're they're recycling
1739
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:37.479
the character.
1740
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:40.159
Well, they did it with Howard Hughes. Between the two
1741
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:43.800
of them, you had Tesla, Howard Hughes, Elon Musk, and
1742
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:46.319
then you throw the whole iron Man mythology into all
1743
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:49.119
of it, which they're taking quite literally these days. I
1744
01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.399
think Elon Musk had a cameo in the second Iron
1745
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:52.600
Man movie.
1746
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:52.680
Yeah.
1747
01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:55.920
Yeah, like Howard Hughes and Tesla, if you mix them together,
1748
01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:57.039
you get Elon Musk.
1749
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:01.720
So again, these are the these are characters. These are
1750
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.079
characters that are created, and they're put into the public lexicon,
1751
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:09.359
and we absorb them and they become you know, they
1752
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:10.479
they become.
1753
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:14.000
Real and well, you know, it's exactly how you're saying,
1754
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:19.159
because the Nikola Tesla character had all this like they
1755
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:22.560
like I said, he was born in a lightning storm,
1756
01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.239
and he did all this stuff and ed da da da.
1757
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.760
But then at the end of his life he's like broke.
1758
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:29.439
Nobody cares about him.
1759
01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:31.920
He's like his girlfriend is a pigeon.
1760
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:35.920
Yeah, his girlfriend's obviously a pigeon. He dies in a
1761
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.720
hotel room somewhere, and like it's they just kind of
1762
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:43.760
threw him away after they were you know, it's crazy
1763
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.319
because you're so right about that, Like they didn't care,
1764
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:48.479
but they just kind of threw him away after they
1765
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:49.560
were done with whatever.
1766
01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:56.600
Yep, that's what That's what happens when they your your
1767
01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:58.039
usefulness runs out.
1768
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:03.199
And you know, because pennyless in a hotel room.
1769
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:05.920
Well, I think Howard Hughes like became a Mormon in
1770
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.720
Las Vegas and like ended up leaving his family portune
1771
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:12.039
to them. It's like a similar thing.
1772
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.399
Doesn't Trump have a weird thing about Nikola Tesla or
1773
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:16.199
somebody like that.
1774
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:21.079
Yeah, uncle, yeah, he supposedly through the hand of the FBI,
1775
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:24.840
he ended up getting all of those patents. I don't
1776
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:26.960
know how much of that is mythology and how much
1777
01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.800
that is real, because the whole Trump time travel thing
1778
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:32.079
is fun to look into.
1779
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.119
But oh, that's a fun theory. Whether it's real or not,
1780
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:39.399
it's fun. Not to derail. But I dropped a link
1781
01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.319
in here for you guys. You guys can check that out.
1782
01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:45.119
He's got more. Uh. This kid talks about a lot
1783
01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:47.000
of interesting stuff in this video, and a lot of
1784
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.760
it is the Russian cosmism towards the end and whatnot.
1785
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:54.439
But yeah, dude, that whole website reeldocumentaries dot com. It's
1786
01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:57.399
like uncensored YouTube. There's not as many videos on there,
1787
01:36:57.439 --> 01:36:59.960
but if you want to go down some conspiracy rabbit holes,
1788
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:04.239
realdocumentaries dot com is an incredible place to watch some stuff.
1789
01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:06.760
I was on that one a while back. I haven't
1790
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.000
been there in ages. I'm glad you reminded me about that.
1791
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:09.319
I didn't.
1792
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:11.159
It's such a good site. But I recommend you guys
1793
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:13.520
all saved that link and if you're curious or bored
1794
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:15.399
one time and you just want to look into that video.
1795
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:17.920
It's only like an hour and a half. I think
1796
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:19.680
it might be longer than that, No, two hours and
1797
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:23.279
eleven minutes, but it's worth every minute of watching that man,
1798
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.079
very very good Ryan.
1799
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:27.560
This time, I'm also being sincere. Thanks for the tip.
1800
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:31.039
Absolutely. I know you're probably more likely to watch that
1801
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.199
than the substance, but still, you know, I'm trying to
1802
01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:36.119
give some stuff out here and provide some value to
1803
01:37:36.159 --> 01:37:36.760
the conversation.
1804
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:40.800
Another year, when we do this again, we're gonna have
1805
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:42.079
a movie report.
1806
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:49.039
Oh yeah, I actually have a couple unrelated questions for John.
1807
01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:52.039
I don't know how much time everybody has, but I
1808
01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:54.640
just want to get these questions out before we wrap
1809
01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:58.439
up kind of. But so, I know you're really into
1810
01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:01.239
like the healthcare system and every thing, and I actually
1811
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:03.600
cover a little bit about that kind of stuff on
1812
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:07.760
my own show. But I had this girl that I
1813
01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:11.520
worked with and my mom died of cancer, so it's
1814
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.279
like close to home for me, Like, because I agree
1815
01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:16.439
with you, I think she was probably killed more by
1816
01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:20.760
the treatment than the actual breast cancer, obviously, but I
1817
01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:23.359
worked with this girl and she said that her husband
1818
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:27.600
completely cured his cancer by taking dog Deie Wormer, and
1819
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:29.840
he has a whole blog about it, how much he
1820
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:32.680
took of it every day. It's never came back. He
1821
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:36.119
didn't do any chemo, he didn't do any radiation. And
1822
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.880
I have this theory that cancer is actually just parasites,
1823
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:44.920
and they can get you with parasites in your food, water, whatever.
1824
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.560
It's real easy to give somebody a parasitic overload and
1825
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.319
then tell them they have cancer. So what are your
1826
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:52.359
thoughts on something like that, like with the dog Dey
1827
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:53.359
warmer and stuff.
1828
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.760
Well, first of all, I'm so sincerely sorry to hear
1829
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.199
about what happened with your mom and I and I'm
1830
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:05.960
glad that you voiced your stance on that because I too,
1831
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:09.880
I don't believe that cancer is a thing. I think
1832
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:13.720
it's it's It is also a character that was created,
1833
01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:19.640
and it is a probably one of the most cruel
1834
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.800
of all characters that they have created, because it's fear
1835
01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:27.720
based and and with God as serious as I can
1836
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:32.279
possibly say this, if anyone listening or watching this is
1837
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:37.119
told that they have cancer, or if a loved one
1838
01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:40.239
is told that they have cancer, I plead and beg
1839
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:44.319
of you to look the medical professional that is telling
1840
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:47.399
you that in the eyes and say, I'd like to
1841
01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:50.920
see it. Show it to me. I want to see
1842
01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:56.319
my cancer acting nefariously in my body. Show it to me.
1843
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:59.279
Don't show me a don't don't show me an X
1844
01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:01.760
ray with a blob and go, that'st your cancer. That
1845
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:03.920
could be anything. That could be a that could be
1846
01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:05.560
a piece of bone, It could be a piece of fat,
1847
01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:07.439
It could be anything. It could be a water glob,
1848
01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:09.720
it could be a number of things. I want to
1849
01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:13.960
see live on a microscope or or or some equivalent thereof.
1850
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:17.479
I'd like to see my body acting nefariously against itself.
1851
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:23.079
Show me before I subject myself to to your to
1852
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:27.039
your burning, and and your pharmaceuticals and and and your
1853
01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:31.039
cutting and surgery. I'd like to see that. And and
1854
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.000
that is a question that I have pleaded with people
1855
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.560
over the years to ask. And I do know people
1856
01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.840
that have asked, and I've yet to have anyone come
1857
01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:43.079
back and go, they showed it to me. So these
1858
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:49.279
people that have cured cured their cancer by doing other things,
1859
01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:52.039
I think what they have cured themselves from is they've
1860
01:40:52.079 --> 01:41:00.560
actually saved themselves from the traditional treatment. And like doing anything,
1861
01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:03.880
I I mean I don't doubt that they did take
1862
01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:07.800
a dog d wormery. They could have taken popcorn, they
1863
01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.720
could could they could have eaten a slur you drank
1864
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:16.760
a slurpee or something. Anything other than the treatment is
1865
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:18.800
going to have a better outcome than the treatment.
1866
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.159
And I agree with you on that. And there is
1867
01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:26.279
a spiritual component to it as well, I know, but.
1868
01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:31.800
You know, I'd love I'd really love your your take
1869
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:37.119
on this, because I would. I would. I've just seen
1870
01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:39.319
it with my own eyes that that that these type
1871
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.359
of words affect I think they affect all of us,
1872
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:45.159
but I think, like I think they affect women more.
1873
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:50.159
And I say that with with grace and mercy. If
1874
01:41:50.199 --> 01:41:53.239
someone was to tell a little girl that she was
1875
01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:57.680
ugly or she was fat, I don't care how strong
1876
01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:00.520
that little girl is, or even a little boy, but
1877
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:02.239
I'm just saying I think it would affect a little
1878
01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.079
girl more. If if you heard you know, you're fat,
1879
01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:08.560
you're ugly, you are never going to forget that you're
1880
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:11.399
It's it's gonna be with you your entire life. You're
1881
01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:13.199
never gonna forget that you were told you were fat,
1882
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:18.039
you were ugly. Imagine being told that you have this
1883
01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:22.439
thing that's going to kill you, that's gonna that's gonna
1884
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:25.399
hit you like a ton of bricks, way harder than
1885
01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:27.560
being told you were fat or you were ugly. So
1886
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:33.680
just the the very act of being diagnosed and die.
1887
01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:38.119
Diagnose is a is a very strange word. Die means too,
1888
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:44.399
ag means not. Nosis is knowing, So it's two people
1889
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:44.960
not knowing.
1890
01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:49.479
That's interesting.
1891
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:53.359
Anyways, to tell someone that they have this thing that's
1892
01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:57.800
going to kill them is a very powerful and cruel
1893
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.760
thing to do to somebody. And the human body is
1894
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:08.640
an amazing machine. If you think, and this is if
1895
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.039
we are all being honest with ourselves, you know that
1896
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:14.800
this is true. You've talked yourself sick before, you've thought
1897
01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:18.279
yourself sick before. You know, like, if you think that
1898
01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:20.359
you're going to get sick, you're going to get sick.
1899
01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:26.000
If you if you, I don't know, you twist your ankle,
1900
01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:28.560
I hope I didn't break it. You know it's gonna
1901
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.039
hurt more. If you're really stressed about not right, it's
1902
01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:36.720
going to hurt you. You can manifest that good or bad.
1903
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:41.079
And there's no stronger motivator than fear. And so a
1904
01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:43.720
lot of people who are told that they have things.
1905
01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:46.279
That's all they have to do is tell them that
1906
01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:48.920
they have it, and they from that point forward, that
1907
01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:52.079
person is moving forward in a state of fear. And
1908
01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:56.680
most people are not strong enough to go fuck that,
1909
01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:59.439
I'm going to get another opinion or I'm not listening
1910
01:43:59.479 --> 01:44:00.239
to that shit all.
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Well, here's a good example of that. Actually, there was
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a fucking crazy lady who went on Doctor Phil and
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she had a big, fucking pregnant belly like you'd never
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guess otherwise that she was like eight months pregnant. She's
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not pregnant. She's been pregnant for like seven years or
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something like that, and she's convinced herself that any day
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now she's gonna have a baby. And they've done ultrasounds
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for they've done all kinds of crazy stuff for they
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told her there's no babies in there, but her belly
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continues to grow, she has all the pregnancy symptoms, and
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she literally convinced herself and her body responded to a
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fake pregnancy. Yeah. So I mean, if you don't think
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you can manifest stuff in your body and bring it
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into the physical plane, like you're crazy.
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Everything that happens physically to you is a result of
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what's happened, what you're mentally feeding, you know, like remember
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like the Jim Rose sideshow circus that toured with Lollapalooza,
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the kind of the freaks, the circus freaks and all
1929
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or you've seen like the people that will hang they'll
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have like the piercings in their skin, and then they'll.
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They'll have a chick that was into suspension.
1932
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So okay, those this is a this is a fucked
1933
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up way to get to the same place. But like those,
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in order to do that, you have to tell your
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body that it doesn't hurt, because it does hurt. Pain
1936
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is mental, you know, but you can turn it off.
1937
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And so those people have learned to turn off pain.
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You know, there's there's I think you know, there's athletes
1939
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and stuff. Well, you know, anyone that's doing endurance stuff
1940
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learns to they are controlling their physical state of being
1941
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and they can tell themselves, I'm not tired. You know,
1942
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this doesn't hurt, you know, and and it that's that's
1943
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a positive use of the mind controlling the body. But
1944
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the negative use would be like telling someone you have cancer.
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You got and and I wish I could collectively at
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one time, take my fist and drive it into the
1947
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face of every medical professional that's ever looked another human
1948
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being in the eyes and said you have three months
1949
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or six months to live.
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I mean that is they did it to my mom.
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I mean it like, imagine again again, anyone that's been
1952
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a parent, or or even a best friend, or your
1953
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your boyfriend or your girlfriend, anyone that you care about,
1954
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if you knew that that person had a year to live,
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would you tell them?
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Mm?
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Yeah?
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Never would you?
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I mean I mean I would I wouldn't. I love
1960
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my wife more than anything, but if I knew she,
1961
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if I knew she was going to die tomorrow, I would.
1962
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I would live of that. I would live today with
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every fucking second of passion, and I would want her
1964
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to pass as happy as she possibly could. But I
1965
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would never. You would never would you tell your kid
1966
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that they're gonna die in six months if you knew
1967
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that they were going to die? First of all, how
1968
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could you even know that?
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Mm hmmm?
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How could how can agreeance with you so physical attack?
1971
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:28.640
That's like that old question, like would you want to
1972
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:30.840
know like the day and the time and the method
1973
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:32.319
that you're going to die? Right, Like a lot of
1974
01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:34.840
people would, and then a lot of people wouldn't you know,
1975
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It's just I I personally would not, But I mean
1976
01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:41.039
there's a lot of people that would like to know Colby.
1977
01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:48.640
Yeah, you want to know dying tonight make my best
1978
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fucking damn table.
1979
01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.159
Yeah, it's a that's a that's deep.
1980
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It's it's like I said, it's like a mental, physical,
1981
01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:02.279
spiritual attack on a person to say stuff like that
1982
01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:05.439
and then subject them to months of Like you just
1983
01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:07.720
told me, I have six months to live, and you
1984
01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:10.479
want fucking four of those months to be trying to
1985
01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.600
save me so I can live a little bit longer
1986
01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:14.840
with a bunch of toxic shit that makes me sick
1987
01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:17.359
all the time, makes my teeth fall out, my hair
1988
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:21.119
fall out, and pukin and all this. So if I
1989
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:23.680
have six months to live, you're telling me I'm gonna
1990
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spend half of those months fucking being chemically killed basically,
1991
01:48:29.399 --> 01:48:32.319
and then hopefully that prolongs it a little bit longer. So,
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I mean, I have a lot of theories on it,
1993
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and also kind of circle back to something we were
1994
01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:41.560
talking about earlier with like you said, if you wanted
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01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:43.960
to attack Medford, Oregon, why would you like kill a
1996
01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.000
bunch of people in a movie theater. The same thing
1997
01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:49.960
exists in my mind when it comes to like it's
1998
01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:53.560
so easy to kill people without doing all of that
1999
01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:55.800
extra shit. All you gotta do is put like a
2000
01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:59.960
shit ton of parasites in somebody's like water supply or
2001
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:02.279
something like that. You've killed everybody at that point. You
2002
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:04.439
don't even have to like put your hands on them,
2003
01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:07.279
which is why COVID was such an interesting tool that
2004
01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:10.880
they used. But I mean, biological warfare is where it's at,
2005
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.600
not like bombs and explosions and ship.
2006
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.399
No no, no doubt, which is why, which is why
2007
01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:17.000
I think, you know, for the most part, you know,
2008
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:21.000
the terrorism isn't real terrorism is is you know that
2009
01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.319
it was part of that whole terraan noia campaign that
2010
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:28.840
nine to eleven kicked off, and and I get I'm
2011
01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.119
glad that resonated because because hope hopefully it resonates with
2012
01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:34.359
with with others that are hearing this, because you just
2013
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:38.800
that's not how you'd you know, even even people like
2014
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:41.640
people are thinking like, you know, I don't know, we
2015
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:46.680
the whole thing with TikTok being a Chinese company, you know,
2016
01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:49.359
they're they're taking all of your data. You know, well,
2017
01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:53.239
well ge so is fed book and the Meta and
2018
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:55.000
Amazon and Google.
2019
01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:58.479
You know, it's like, what Ryan, that TikTok isn't even
2020
01:49:58.560 --> 01:49:59.279
Chinese owned?
2021
01:49:59.600 --> 01:50:04.199
Well you it was even if it was, who cares?
2022
01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:08.680
And and what is China's like the the the district
2023
01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:11.079
of Columbia's biggest business partner.
2024
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:12.479
Do you do you think that?
2025
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:14.760
Do you think the powers that shouldn't be in China
2026
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:19.520
want anything to happen to the American public? No, that's
2027
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:22.760
a fucking bank roll, you know, that's their customer base.
2028
01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:26.319
So I don't doubt that there are members of the
2029
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:29.680
Chinese government that have issues with members of other governments.
2030
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:33.079
But if you've got beef with the wouldn't you attack
2031
01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:37.439
that ship? You would? I'm I'm Chinese terrorist and I'm
2032
01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:39.560
met at the US government, So I'm gonna go shoot
2033
01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:45.039
up a shopping mall. That'll show them what this doesn't
2034
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.720
even that's not that's not how gangsta ship works. And
2035
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:53.239
if there were, if there were real gangsters, they they'd
2036
01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:56.600
be taking care of business. And I'm sorry, but if
2037
01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:02.119
if terrorism was real, especially Middle East terrorist, you're you know,
2038
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.079
I don't even want to disrespect the Middle East by
2039
01:51:05.279 --> 01:51:08.319
by saying that they're Middle Eastern terrorists because they're they're
2040
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:13.159
they got bad aim you know, stop stop stop aiming
2041
01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.920
at shopping malls and marathons and and and these and
2042
01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.520
these weird little off targets and aim towards the district
2043
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:23.279
of criminals stuff there.
2044
01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:25.359
Well, yeah, and I think that they can pull that
2045
01:51:25.439 --> 01:51:27.159
kind of stuff off. And then seeing how that war
2046
01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:29.760
went with them, I mean it's it's people throwing rocks
2047
01:51:29.760 --> 01:51:32.479
and sticks at tanks and and you know, massive guns
2048
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:34.359
and stuff like. They don't have the ability, I don't
2049
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.560
think to really do that kind of stuff, you know,
2050
01:51:37.239 --> 01:51:39.920
it like you're saying, John, it makes zero sense when
2051
01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:42.039
you actually think about it for a second. But they
2052
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:44.840
use the fear and the you know, American pride and
2053
01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:47.119
all that stuff to combat that, I think, And then
2054
01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:48.560
you don't think logically.
2055
01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:51.000
Yeah, yeah, and and and if I wanted, if I
2056
01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:54.720
wanted to stoke some American pride and get get them
2057
01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:57.000
worked up, well then I would just you know, I'd
2058
01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:59.479
get some MK ultra goon to go shoot up a
2059
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.039
shopping all and say that it was Russian terrorists, and
2060
01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:08.720
then America's gonna go down? How many false flags? I mean,
2061
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:11.399
like it's just like, how many times have we seen
2062
01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:15.479
stories of like, you know, ah, you know, somebody spray
2063
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:18.640
painted the N word on somebody's locker in school. Well,
2064
01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:20.479
it was a black person that spray painted the N
2065
01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:22.760
word to make you know, soak the you know, or
2066
01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:26.159
somebody spray painted a swastika on the you know, on
2067
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:32.399
the wall. It's like, yeah, like again, that's that's not
2068
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.119
that's not how gangster shit works.
2069
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:36.199
But then they tell you too that if you're afraid,
2070
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:39.560
the terrorists win, right if you're afraid of it, So
2071
01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:41.199
it's like they're they're trying to get ahead of it
2072
01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:41.640
like that.
2073
01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:45.880
Well well yeah, but yeah, again, the terrorists in that
2074
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:49.199
scenario would be the characters, you know, and they created
2075
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:51.479
these characters of terrorists, and in order to prop up
2076
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:54.720
that character storyline, you got you gotta have some you
2077
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:57.039
gotta have some false flags events to prop it up
2078
01:52:57.079 --> 01:52:59.880
for you know, the character of the terrorists doesn't do
2079
01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:00.600
much good.
2080
01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:03.279
Yeah, yeah, there's got to be the good guys and
2081
01:53:03.319 --> 01:53:08.239
the bad guys. And the good guys what you got
2082
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:09.720
to create the good guys and the bad guys, and
2083
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:11.199
you have to control, and you have to be in
2084
01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:13.600
control of them both, right. And the thing is they
2085
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:15.760
say that the good guys are American government and the
2086
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.560
bad guys are you know, the other governments and the
2087
01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:19.399
other terrorists of the world, and it's okay to just
2088
01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.039
be like thinking that, Yeah, maybe there's just two assholes
2089
01:53:22.079 --> 01:53:24.319
fighting and we don't really need to have a dog
2090
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:27.920
in the race, right because I don't know, our government's
2091
01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:29.720
not not too much on the up and up. In
2092
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:31.439
my opinion, I think a lot of people share that
2093
01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:34.920
sentiment there. But yeah, it's a it's as far as
2094
01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:37.600
I'm concerned, it's two assholes fighting. Whenever countries are going
2095
01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:39.279
to war. There's no real good stuff.
2096
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.039
War if it lands on my front doorstep. But I'm
2097
01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:44.479
not really worried about that happening anytime.
2098
01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:46.359
Soon, yeah, or even in the country, right. And I'm
2099
01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:48.039
sure that you're getting at that same thing, like it,
2100
01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:51.279
you know, if someone were to come here and directly
2101
01:53:51.319 --> 01:53:54.680
threaten us, and it's real sure, I mean, I think
2102
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:55.800
a lot of people would fight.
2103
01:53:55.920 --> 01:54:01.319
But what like they think of a scenario where I mean,
2104
01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:04.399
and I'm not totally being a smart ass on this,
2105
01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:06.119
but I mean, and it is an open ended question.
2106
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:10.800
Think of a scenario like what to what good to
2107
01:54:10.920 --> 01:54:16.199
any foreign power would it be to take over Let's
2108
01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:18.319
just use the United States to just take over the
2109
01:54:18.439 --> 01:54:22.600
United States? Like what like like round everybody up and
2110
01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:23.520
put them in camps?
2111
01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:28.000
Like what that's the that ship takes to do? Yeah?
2112
01:54:28.039 --> 01:54:30.920
What? What a pain in the ass. I mean just
2113
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:33.239
to I live in a small little town. Just to
2114
01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:35.840
round everybody up in this small little town would be
2115
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:38.720
a pain in the ass. Would be you You'd have
2116
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.000
to kill half of them because it wouldn't no one
2117
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:43.119
would do it. It'd be like, fuck out of here,
2118
01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:47.880
I'm watching TV the game, you know, like, and then
2119
01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:50.800
you'd have a bunch of dead bodies stinking and smelling
2120
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:56.479
the place up. It's like, what, under what reasonable scenario
2121
01:54:56.520 --> 01:55:01.760
would a foreign power come in and take over another country.
2122
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.359
They wouldn't take over the country. They may take over
2123
01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.880
the administrative you know, the the the offices and all
2124
01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:10.960
of that, but it would be to their advantage to
2125
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:12.720
have the people just not even know anything about that.
2126
01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:16.319
Let's let the people go on about there. Now they're
2127
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:19.600
really in charge, you know what I'm saying. You'd quietly
2128
01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:22.239
take control of the actual control mechanism.
2129
01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:26.279
Do you think that, like the Yuri Bezumenoff interview where
2130
01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.720
he talked about all that in the early eighties, do
2131
01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.439
you think there's something to that. I'm not so he
2132
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.199
made he was a Russian spy, who did you know?
2133
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:38.800
He defected and he ended up here and he went
2134
01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:40.960
on the media circuit, and he was really the first
2135
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.720
one who brought into mainstream.
2136
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:48.880
Yeah, you really were a Russian spy and you defected.
2137
01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:51.960
Of course the next thing you would do is go
2138
01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:53.119
on a media tour.
2139
01:55:53.239 --> 01:55:55.359
See exactly. So that's the point I'm getting to. But
2140
01:55:55.439 --> 01:56:01.520
he planned the seed that you don't use school warfare anymore.
2141
01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:07.680
You take a few decades to infiltrate every meaningful, influential institution.
2142
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:10.479
And he was warning that that was going to happen.
2143
01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:13.119
And now there's people saying, look, it's happening. Look at Disney,
2144
01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:16.600
look at the colleges, which Disney and the colleges were
2145
01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:20.479
always like that, And so I don't know. So do
2146
01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:23.039
you think all that stuff's kind of fake? Cold warship
2147
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:26.800
just the whole back and forth with all that throughout
2148
01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:27.279
the ages.
2149
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:31.199
I would like I would like to see an example
2150
01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:37.479
of an actual military operation that was organic and necessary.
2151
01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:40.960
Well what about like the whole, like the taking of
2152
01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.399
this country, like how it is now, like the like
2153
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:47.199
our ancestors. And I'm not I'm glad that they did it,
2154
01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:48.880
to be clear, I'm not. I'm not one of these
2155
01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:52.319
people that's like, you know, overly Native American sympathetic or anything.
2156
01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:54.159
I got nothing against the people or nothing like that.
2157
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.039
But like they came in here, white people came in
2158
01:56:56.079 --> 01:56:59.800
here and took all that land and all that all
2159
01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:03.279
the resources from the Native Americans, and that I mean,
2160
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:06.279
as far as I'm aware, that's a real thing. That's
2161
01:57:06.279 --> 01:57:09.359
not a fake thing. So I think that a foreign eight,
2162
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:11.960
a foreign entity could want to do the same thing
2163
01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:14.800
to us. It wouldn't be as easy as it was
2164
01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:17.039
back then because it was basically people with guns fighting
2165
01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:20.920
people with bows and arrows. But I mean, I think
2166
01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:25.000
that there's always a reason that some someone could want
2167
01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:28.600
to take the resources in the land from us. You know,
2168
01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:31.399
there's got to be I mean, I can't justify in
2169
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:33.760
my mind because, like you said, John to be a
2170
01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:35.920
pain in the ass, and there's a lot of guns here.
2171
01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:38.520
There's more guns than people. I think a lot of
2172
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.560
the people that talk tough about their guns. They wouldn't
2173
01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:42.479
use it because they can't even run a fucking mile,
2174
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:44.319
you know, and you need to be a little bit
2175
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:48.680
physically fit to actually fight a war. But you know,
2176
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:50.720
I think that it could happen. I don't think it will,
2177
01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:52.760
but I think it's possible, you know, And I think
2178
01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:55.439
that there would be motives for outside entities to want
2179
01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:55.840
to do that.
2180
01:57:56.720 --> 01:58:00.800
There's there's always going to be turf wars always. But
2181
01:58:02.199 --> 01:58:05.880
again back to the gangster thing. It's like when when
2182
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:11.239
when there's gang turf wars, they're they're controlling a certain
2183
01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:16.359
aspect of that area. They're not controlling that area in totality,
2184
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:17.319
you know.
2185
01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:21.039
And also it's like a subversion type thing invasion.
2186
01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.960
Well, I mean like like if I, you know, if
2187
01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:25.880
I was a foreign you know, if I was a
2188
01:58:26.680 --> 01:58:31.199
foreign entity and I wanted to h take I want
2189
01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:32.920
to do a land grab, you know, I want I
2190
01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.840
wanted I wanted someone else's turf. I I don't think
2191
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:41.319
that I would have any you know, illusions of grandeur
2192
01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:44.600
that I'm going to go in and and I'm going
2193
01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:47.479
to completely clear everything out and now I'm gonna have
2194
01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:50.039
this piece of land for me to do with whatever
2195
01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:54.880
I want, because again I'd have to kill everybody, burn everything.
2196
01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:58.000
I mean, good for the soildies are good for the soil,
2197
01:58:58.359 --> 01:58:58.720
you know.
2198
01:58:59.479 --> 01:59:04.840
Well, you know, yep, perhaps, but it sure seems like
2199
01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:09.880
like I don't know why a foreign entity would would
2200
01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:16.680
would want to come onto US soil and put people
2201
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.680
in camps and round them up. And I mean there's.
2202
01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:21.960
John do you think World War two narratives at all?
2203
01:59:22.760 --> 01:59:24.560
I don't think any of the World War narratives are
2204
01:59:24.720 --> 01:59:29.000
as as it. Again, I stand by my statement, I'd
2205
01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:32.680
like to see an example of a military action ever
2206
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:37.720
in history that was in current modern history that would
2207
01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:41.159
that was both organic and necessary.
2208
01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:45.520
We still have a body count to deal with. I
2209
01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:47.520
just don't think it's as they made it out to be.
2210
01:59:49.159 --> 01:59:51.399
Well, it's like nine to eleven, like he was talking earlier.
2211
01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:56.560
I mean, obviously people die when I mean I always thought,
2212
01:59:56.760 --> 02:00:01.399
just from my own like base of research, that eugenics
2213
02:00:02.079 --> 02:00:05.560
everything that was thought of and conceived and eventually tried
2214
02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:09.039
took place maybe in some camps in that era in Europe,
2215
02:00:09.079 --> 02:00:11.920
but it was probably us doing it. Paper Clip was
2216
02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:13.680
just trying to hide the trail of like, yeah, it's
2217
02:00:13.680 --> 02:00:17.279
been us all along and we'll continue to do it
2218
02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:20.600
like you talked about with the COVID experiments all that stuff,
2219
02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:23.039
like they do it out in the open, and then
2220
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.560
they might like come up with the boogeyman. But like
2221
02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:30.560
I mean, you got even talk about Holocaust like possibilities.
2222
02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:33.239
That are there. There you there you go. I mean,
2223
02:00:33.239 --> 02:00:36.560
if if you you know anything that you're told you
2224
02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:39.319
can't talk about, you know, you're onto something, you know,
2225
02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:42.279
and there are people and in the in the case
2226
02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:47.720
of of Holocaust Incorporated, they you know, there are people
2227
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:51.960
in jail for talking about Holocaust incorporated. Yeah, I just
2228
02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:53.920
add the ink on the end of it, because you
2229
02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:58.880
know clearly was uh you know another initiative.
2230
02:00:59.119 --> 02:01:01.439
You get add a trademark or a copyright to it too,
2231
02:01:01.479 --> 02:01:04.880
probably right, did you just mention eugenics, Kolby, I was
2232
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:06.119
looking something up while you were talking.
2233
02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:08.760
Yeah, I was just saying, like the eugenics that the
2234
02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.600
Nazis were supposedly studying on all the Jews. I think
2235
02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:15.039
that was mainly a tink tink and Long Island or
2236
02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:16.199
something like that that came up.
2237
02:01:16.359 --> 02:01:20.720
Right, Well, we know that the US was heavily involved
2238
02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:24.159
with the Nazis, right, And potentially still are. But yeah,
2239
02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:26.439
there's there's euthenics too, and that's that's what I was
2240
02:01:26.479 --> 02:01:28.319
looking up because I remember the term, I just forgot
2241
02:01:28.359 --> 02:01:30.920
what it was. And eugenics is about future generations and
2242
02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:35.079
euthenics is about current the current generation trying to speed
2243
02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:37.800
that process up. So and that's another one of those
2244
02:01:37.800 --> 02:01:41.560
cosmic terms, the cosmism terms. So yeah, it's just, dude,
2245
02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:44.199
I feel like a lot of these words get thrown around,
2246
02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:47.960
and it's more of a distraction because the the COVID
2247
02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:51.479
stuff seemed like it was more euthenics than eugenics. It
2248
02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:54.439
was very current. It's gone now, you know, but it
2249
02:01:54.520 --> 02:01:57.680
was focusing on the present time and and it was
2250
02:01:57.880 --> 02:02:02.039
very very like short term. It wasn't thinking about long
2251
02:02:02.159 --> 02:02:05.560
term stuff with with the with COVID and eugenics.
2252
02:02:06.159 --> 02:02:11.039
But do you think it could have possibly been both,
2253
02:02:11.239 --> 02:02:17.399
because I've read a couple of articles and stuff on it,
2254
02:02:17.520 --> 02:02:20.840
just because I'm into it and also worried about mine
2255
02:02:20.960 --> 02:02:28.119
into it. You're into eugenics, No, that I could be.
2256
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:33.039
But I've seen like a lot of women who are
2257
02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:37.319
either having a bunch of miscarriages or not able to
2258
02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:44.399
get pregnant at all following getting the job. Well, that's
2259
02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:46.560
what I'm saying. It could possibly be both. I mean
2260
02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.319
they could be playing the short game and the long game,
2261
02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:53.399
because now women are having a very difficult time conceiving
2262
02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:57.319
and there's like this outrageous number of women getting diagnosed
2263
02:02:57.359 --> 02:03:00.920
with PCOS. I happen to be one of those people.
2264
02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:04.079
But I'm not saying that's like, Oh, I have PCOS,
2265
02:03:04.119 --> 02:03:07.479
so I'm a victim and I'm fucking I didn't get
2266
02:03:07.479 --> 02:03:09.840
the job. So it could be totally unrelated. But I
2267
02:03:09.880 --> 02:03:13.439
just think it's crazy how people aren't putting those two
2268
02:03:13.479 --> 02:03:14.199
things together.
2269
02:03:14.560 --> 02:03:15.960
Like the.
2270
02:03:17.520 --> 02:03:23.359
Whole, the whole, the whole COVID thing was I think multifaceted.
2271
02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:25.439
I don't think it was about one particular thing. I
2272
02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:30.119
think it was pretty well thought out in advance. Look
2273
02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:35.680
to event, you know, to still on YouTube? Did you
2274
02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:38.800
get your little COVID plushy? Remember they gave those out
2275
02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:40.119
for attending the event.
2276
02:03:40.560 --> 02:03:42.960
I've seen them. I've seen him on merch from the
2277
02:03:42.960 --> 02:03:45.199
COVID era. I want to have some of that just
2278
02:03:45.239 --> 02:03:47.239
for when I'm old and I can look back. There
2279
02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:51.000
was Anthony Fauci, pillows, there was wild stuff.
2280
02:03:50.760 --> 02:03:52.359
The Saint Fauci bubblehead.
2281
02:03:53.239 --> 02:03:54.560
Oh my god, just merch.
2282
02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:57.600
Yeah. I think it was multifaceted. There there was definitely
2283
02:03:57.640 --> 02:04:01.800
some population control aspects to it, with with the infertility
2284
02:04:01.880 --> 02:04:04.039
and and and and then just the just the death.
2285
02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:07.159
You know that there there was there was definitely some
2286
02:04:07.279 --> 02:04:11.039
experimentation last back to it with like the five G
2287
02:04:11.159 --> 02:04:14.479
technology and the nanotechnology. I think there there was some
2288
02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:19.039
you know, geopolitic aspects to it. How how it affected
2289
02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:21.960
current events that were going on at the time worldwide,
2290
02:04:22.359 --> 02:04:25.600
you know, I think you know it, let's let's never
2291
02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:31.000
forget that this this event had full and you know,
2292
02:04:31.560 --> 02:04:35.159
here here's the I don't know if if you can
2293
02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:36.920
see this, but but probably not.
2294
02:04:37.079 --> 02:04:42.399
That was Dutch government official amidst COVID pandemic was military
2295
02:04:42.439 --> 02:04:45.800
operation ministry.
2296
02:04:45.880 --> 02:04:49.119
They were taking all of their cues from NATO. So NATO,
2297
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:53.239
I don't know, you say all roads lead to Rome,
2298
02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:54.800
you I think you could say a lot of roads
2299
02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:57.640
lead to NATO as well. So so it was a NATO.
2300
02:04:57.840 --> 02:05:03.640
COVID was a NATO operation admitted by the Dutch government,
2301
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:08.000
all but admitted to by the US government in that
2302
02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:12.479
five and twenty page thing that just came out last week.
2303
02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:17.000
I don't think it was just about one thing. I
2304
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:18.720
think they got a lot out of it. It's like,
2305
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:20.720
you know, it's the gift that will keep on giving,
2306
02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:22.239
just like nine to eleven was the gift that keeps
2307
02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:22.640
on given.
2308
02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:25.920
Well, that's why I say biowarfare is really where it's at.
2309
02:05:25.960 --> 02:05:28.920
If we were playing the Illuminati card game, I'm going
2310
02:05:29.039 --> 02:05:33.159
bio warfare on all y'all asses every time. I'll win
2311
02:05:33.640 --> 02:05:36.000
fucking every game with biowarfare.
2312
02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.439
How do you not play that game? Though? Do we
2313
02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:40.439
know how to play that game?
2314
02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:42.800
I had my mom got it for me for Christmas
2315
02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:46.079
after I did an episode on predictive Programming. That game.
2316
02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:47.760
I have it.
2317
02:05:47.800 --> 02:05:49.720
I've never played it. It seems really stupid.
2318
02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:52.159
It's an expensive game. Man, that's a great gift.
2319
02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:56.600
It's based on the Illuminatus trilogy Robert Anton Wilson, which
2320
02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.000
is one of the coolest books ever written. I don't
2321
02:05:59.039 --> 02:06:01.119
know what he was but he was trying to say,
2322
02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:05.800
but it's like, it's a fucking murder mystery with the Illuminati,
2323
02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:08.920
and it's got telepathic dolphins and cia.
2324
02:06:09.399 --> 02:06:10.279
Oh that's awesome.
2325
02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.760
It came out in the seventies, but aren't you supposed to.
2326
02:06:12.920 --> 02:06:16.640
Like the point to win is like whatever your strategy is,
2327
02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:18.680
outstrategizes the other person.
2328
02:06:18.920 --> 02:06:21.439
Yeah, I mean it's it's a tabletop. It's like Monopoly
2329
02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:23.119
with like secret societies.
2330
02:06:23.359 --> 02:06:26.720
So my strategy is by a warfare on all y'all asses.
2331
02:06:26.920 --> 02:06:29.199
We should get together sometime and play the game on
2332
02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:31.680
here and you can just like have the hands. That'd
2333
02:06:31.720 --> 02:06:33.000
be fair play.
2334
02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:36.079
I played a card game with Ryan. Oh god, was
2335
02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:39.039
it last year for New Year's Oh?
2336
02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:40.920
Yeah, it was like a trivia thing though, wasn't it?
2337
02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:41.199
Or no?
2338
02:06:41.800 --> 02:06:43.960
Oh yeah it was. I think it was a trivia thing, but.
2339
02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:48.880
It was almost like Jeopardy. It was kind of like Jeopardy. Yeah,
2340
02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:50.960
and John, you mentioned five G man, do you think
2341
02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:52.920
five g's real? I'm convinced it's fake.
2342
02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:58.600
I don't know if five G in particular is real
2343
02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:01.960
or fake. But I am a huge believer in frequencies
2344
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:06.640
and you know, and the resulting vibration. I do know
2345
02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:12.520
that frequencies cause vibration, and through frequencies, physical matter can
2346
02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:21.439
be manipulated. And so I have done some real life
2347
02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:27.079
experimentation just because of my wife's situation. We I take
2348
02:07:27.439 --> 02:07:31.640
the topic of radiation very seriously. So any anything that
2349
02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:37.000
has an electrical current running through it radiates. Okay, So
2350
02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:40.560
so so we are constantly you know, like right right now,
2351
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:44.000
I've I'm we're all baking in radiation. There's wires in
2352
02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:48.680
our walls, ceiling floor, I mean, we're just baking in radiation. Now.
2353
02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:53.640
Not all radiation is quote unquote deadly, but all radiation
2354
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:57.479
there's always a cause and effect. And you know, you
2355
02:07:57.520 --> 02:08:00.319
can you know, I don't know if you've ever seen
2356
02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:03.520
you know, the the Chiladney plates, you know, those the
2357
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:06.479
vibrating plates where they it's just a it's like a
2358
02:08:06.520 --> 02:08:08.119
speaker and it's got a metal plate on it, and
2359
02:08:08.119 --> 02:08:10.960
they'll put some sort of sell salt or something, and
2360
02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:15.239
then the frequencies arrange the salt in geometric patterns. So
2361
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:19.439
there's proof positive that that frequencies can manipulate physical matter.
2362
02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:24.720
So uh whatever, call it five G for what what,
2363
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:27.680
whatever name they want to put on it, you can
2364
02:08:29.159 --> 02:08:34.159
you can manipulate life with through frequencies. And and we've
2365
02:08:34.199 --> 02:08:38.720
got I mean, you never ever ever see birds hanging
2366
02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:43.760
out on those cell towers because they because they know better,
2367
02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:45.760
you know, they don't want to go fucking near that.
2368
02:08:45.880 --> 02:08:48.039
You and if you look around, like I live in
2369
02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:50.600
a fairly rural area, and so I can, I can
2370
02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:53.399
go up to the areas where the cell towers are.
2371
02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:57.279
You don't even the actual plant life changes around the
2372
02:08:57.279 --> 02:08:59.640
base of those things too, you know, you don't. You
2373
02:08:59.640 --> 02:09:02.640
don't see the same You step back a couple more
2374
02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.479
hundred feet and you see it starts to grow again,
2375
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:10.399
like stuff starts to grow. So whatever frequencies are coming
2376
02:09:10.439 --> 02:09:15.880
off of those things, they are they're anti biotic. They're
2377
02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:18.920
you know, biotic means life, and whatever the frequencies are,
2378
02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:20.560
they're anti their anti life.
2379
02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:23.000
Yeah, I guess I should have been more clear, like
2380
02:09:23.079 --> 02:09:25.840
five G relating to phones, you know, because that's the
2381
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.079
that's the part that I think is completely fake. But
2382
02:09:28.479 --> 02:09:31.159
I agree that there could be some very harmful frequency
2383
02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:34.439
coming from these things because I've seen, uh, you know
2384
02:09:34.479 --> 02:09:36.840
what you're what you're talking about there where the biology
2385
02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:38.840
around these things is different.
2386
02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:41.960
You know, than to put a bunch of these fucking
2387
02:09:42.039 --> 02:09:44.920
whatever they're for and just say, yeah, that's for your phones, right,
2388
02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:50.239
because then accept that yeah, faster internet, yeah exactly.
2389
02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:55.079
I I yeah, I honestly, I'm kind of with you
2390
02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:59.159
on I wouldn't just I wouldn't just say that the
2391
02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:04.840
topic of five G is is fake. I think the
2392
02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:08.640
whole telecommunication narrative is fake all the way up to
2393
02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:12.760
the topic of satellites. I don't. I just I just
2394
02:10:13.279 --> 02:10:15.880
I don't see it. I mean, I think what what
2395
02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:19.800
people think of as satellites is actually the the Google
2396
02:10:19.880 --> 02:10:23.279
Loon program. You know, where those high altitude you know,
2397
02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:27.520
atmosphere balloons that are hanging those what they're called. I mean,
2398
02:10:27.560 --> 02:10:33.199
there's tons of footage of those things being launched. Yeah, yeah,
2399
02:10:33.600 --> 02:10:43.800
satelloons exactly. And and I think that if how about
2400
02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:46.880
how about this, I'd like to go back. I'd like
2401
02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:50.000
to go why don't they incorporate the technology that they
2402
02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:54.279
used for the moon landing, because man, they had perfect community.
2403
02:10:54.279 --> 02:11:00.920
They never lost signal ever, ever, never lost signal. Well, shit,
2404
02:11:00.960 --> 02:11:04.600
I lose signal talking to somebody five miles away. So
2405
02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:07.640
let's let's go back to whatever that was, which didn't exist,
2406
02:11:07.640 --> 02:11:10.319
because that whole narrative didn't exist. But I'm just being
2407
02:11:10.399 --> 02:11:12.840
I'm just being an asshole with that. But but now
2408
02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:17.079
I think the hotelecommunications and satellites and five G and
2409
02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:19.800
all of that stuff is just another example of it's
2410
02:11:19.840 --> 02:11:21.119
not what they say it is.
2411
02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:24.800
Well, isn't that kind of like multi layered though, because
2412
02:11:24.920 --> 02:11:28.520
you'd first have to believe space is real. Then you'd
2413
02:11:28.560 --> 02:11:31.439
have to believe that it's not a fucking vacuum in
2414
02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:33.439
that when you got into it, you didn't just like
2415
02:11:33.560 --> 02:11:35.920
crash like a tin can once you got up there.
2416
02:11:36.199 --> 02:11:38.920
Then you have to believe, like somebody could actually pass
2417
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.199
through the Van Allen Belts and not get roasted in
2418
02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:44.479
their fucking seat. And like there's so many layers to that.
2419
02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:47.239
I don't know what the fuck I am these days.
2420
02:11:47.279 --> 02:11:50.039
Flatter round or is a snow globe?
2421
02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:50.680
I don't know.
2422
02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:55.319
But if I was gonna choose a camp, I would
2423
02:11:55.359 --> 02:11:59.600
probably pick a flat plane with like some type of dome,
2424
02:12:00.359 --> 02:12:03.079
whether it's not. It doesn't have to be a solid dome.
2425
02:12:03.159 --> 02:12:05.680
But even like like I said before, like the Van
2426
02:12:05.760 --> 02:12:08.840
Allen Belts that they've said exists and you can't pass
2427
02:12:08.920 --> 02:12:11.319
through them and ship like that, I don't know where
2428
02:12:11.359 --> 02:12:14.479
you are on it. But the whole idea of satellites
2429
02:12:14.560 --> 02:12:18.520
and you know, oh yeah, that's that's I mean so retarded.
2430
02:12:18.960 --> 02:12:21.359
If space was real, the Vatican would not have had
2431
02:12:21.399 --> 02:12:23.920
to have commissioned Copernicus to come up with that whole
2432
02:12:23.960 --> 02:12:27.560
thing in the first place, because there because there wasn't
2433
02:12:27.600 --> 02:12:31.600
anything until they paid him to craft that narrative. But
2434
02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:34.439
and then utting flash forward to modern day, the Vatican
2435
02:12:34.640 --> 02:12:38.800
controls all of the you know, observatories you know, worldwide,
2436
02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:40.920
So it's.
2437
02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:43.560
They have one here, John, they have an observatory at
2438
02:12:43.560 --> 02:12:45.920
the u of A, which is the big university here
2439
02:12:45.920 --> 02:12:48.640
in Tucson. And the it's not at the u of A,
2440
02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:52.199
but the U of A is a co owner with them. Yeah,
2441
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:53.520
the Lucifer telescope.
2442
02:12:53.640 --> 02:12:54.239
I've been there.
2443
02:12:54.640 --> 02:12:56.560
Yeah, that's that's uh.
2444
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:00.199
Yeah, yeah, I I I grew up in Tempe, so
2445
02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:01.800
I spent a ton of time in Tucson.
2446
02:13:02.039 --> 02:13:04.439
That's right. I remember you said that last time we talked. Yeah, dude,
2447
02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:07.199
I mean, just the idea of the Vatican owning a
2448
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:10.319
telescope and then choosing to name it Lucifer should tell
2449
02:13:10.359 --> 02:13:11.319
you everything that you need to know.
2450
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.119
That's just an acronym, Ryan, It's just an acronym, right
2451
02:13:17.399 --> 02:13:20.880
large or whatever whether they said it was. But but
2452
02:13:20.880 --> 02:13:24.159
but no, no, they you know again, it's it's it's
2453
02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:28.920
that whole they've created a character. Space is a character,
2454
02:13:29.079 --> 02:13:32.760
and and you gotta. It's to their advantage to get
2455
02:13:32.800 --> 02:13:35.960
you invested in that in that character.
2456
02:13:35.840 --> 02:13:39.239
And John, I got one for you. I just fucke
2457
02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:41.520
thought of it. And you're gonna love this ship too.
2458
02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:45.680
I did a whole episode on John Denver, and it's
2459
02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:48.640
crazy because now we can tie the Laurel Canyon and
2460
02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:51.880
NASA and Fake Face all together because he.
2461
02:13:52.000 --> 02:13:57.439
Was Challenger and Tranny too, because uh I think I
2462
02:13:57.520 --> 02:14:01.079
think I think it was it was Joan Denver.
2463
02:14:03.319 --> 02:14:05.039
My gosh, that's crazy.
2464
02:14:06.279 --> 02:14:08.439
Do me a favorite, Like, as soon as we're done here,
2465
02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:11.520
pull up some because because we're talking about jawlines and stuff,
2466
02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:13.800
pull up some pictures of him and do like, look
2467
02:14:13.880 --> 02:14:18.119
at look at John Denver now through those same lives,
2468
02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:22.760
through the same eyes, because yeah, I think, uh I
2469
02:14:23.600 --> 02:14:27.199
think Joan Denver had a a JJ Oh my god.
2470
02:14:27.399 --> 02:14:29.319
Well, you know, I fucking love him. Whether he's a.
2471
02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:31.800
Trained fantastic music, no, no, no.
2472
02:14:31.880 --> 02:14:33.159
Doubt fantastic music.
2473
02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:34.479
What do you think.
2474
02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:39.079
He was supposed to be on the fucking Challenger that
2475
02:14:39.279 --> 02:14:42.199
exploded and then he wrote that fucking song like they
2476
02:14:42.239 --> 02:14:45.079
were flying for me and like all this weird ship.
2477
02:14:45.159 --> 02:14:48.279
Then he actually did die in a fucking airplane accident.
2478
02:14:48.359 --> 02:14:52.840
Supposedly he thinks he Colby thinks he could still be alive.
2479
02:14:53.239 --> 02:14:54.319
Well, he thinks.
2480
02:14:56.039 --> 02:14:59.479
He was friends with presidents. He was part of the
2481
02:14:59.560 --> 02:15:04.319
board for NASA. He like, had all these weird space connections.
2482
02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:09.000
Yeah. She She and Petty have an island in Fiji
2483
02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:13.239
right now that occasionally Bowie and Prince come over. That'll
2484
02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.560
kind of jam. And yeah, I think I think they're
2485
02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:19.279
opening for Oasis in twenty twenty five. Tom.
2486
02:15:19.319 --> 02:15:25.479
Petty's not a tranny, is he. No, no, no, no, no, no, please, Okay,
2487
02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:27.920
don't tell me that, because I mean, I'm still going
2488
02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:30.159
to listen to its music. But I love that.
2489
02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.680
I told you, dude. Yeah, I'm a fucking saint, Petty Man,
2490
02:15:33.840 --> 02:15:35.600
I love it. I love that.
2491
02:15:36.199 --> 02:15:38.319
Yeah, dude. We were outside, we had a campfire the
2492
02:15:38.399 --> 02:15:40.920
other night in the front yard, and I took some
2493
02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:43.000
shrooms and we were just I just put it on
2494
02:15:43.119 --> 02:15:46.079
Apple Music and clicked the first song and you can
2495
02:15:46.199 --> 02:15:49.680
just listen through, just listen through it, and every one
2496
02:15:49.720 --> 02:15:50.960
of those damn songs.
2497
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:54.159
Is Have you seen Have you seen the four hour
2498
02:15:54.279 --> 02:15:58.439
documentary Noll? Dude, it's it's first of all, if you're
2499
02:15:58.439 --> 02:16:01.119
a documentary I'm a documentary geek, which is why I
2500
02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:03.319
love the fact that you you turned me on to
2501
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:08.680
realdocumentaries dot com. But if yeah, yeah, go and watch
2502
02:16:08.760 --> 02:16:10.520
the time. It's a it's a it's an investment. It's
2503
02:16:10.720 --> 02:16:13.720
it's over four hours long, but it is man it.
2504
02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:18.680
I loved not just Petty, but every one of the heartbreakers,
2505
02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:21.800
each one. I mean, Mike Campbell is a guitar hero
2506
02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:26.439
of mine and like, you will love them times ten
2507
02:16:26.600 --> 02:16:32.280
after this documentary, like he was after watching I used
2508
02:16:32.360 --> 02:16:36.239
I used to think that Petty pieced out, Uh just
2509
02:16:36.399 --> 02:16:40.559
just retired and pieced out. But after watching that document
2510
02:16:40.559 --> 02:16:42.879
I've watched it three or four times. He was he
2511
02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:45.920
he was a tough motherfucker. He was not someone who
2512
02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:49.239
was told what to do. And uh and I think
2513
02:16:49.319 --> 02:16:51.559
I think I think they they they may have taken
2514
02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:53.120
care of him for not playing.
2515
02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:55.840
I love what he told Stevin Nix and she wanted
2516
02:16:55.840 --> 02:16:57.319
to be part of the heartbreaks, and he's like, there's
2517
02:16:57.360 --> 02:16:58.399
no living in the heartbreak.
2518
02:16:58.479 --> 02:16:59.360
There was a heartbreaker.
2519
02:17:00.520 --> 02:17:04.760
That's awesome. It's just that he's awesome. But yeah, I'll
2520
02:17:04.799 --> 02:17:06.760
have to I'll have to find it. You happen to
2521
02:17:06.840 --> 02:17:08.000
know the name off the top of your head.
2522
02:17:08.440 --> 02:17:10.680
Here, I'll find it for you, because yeah.
2523
02:17:10.520 --> 02:17:12.639
I'll watch that ship. I'll start it tonight.
2524
02:17:14.840 --> 02:17:18.280
Right in four hours, you could watch eight self Park episodes.
2525
02:17:19.040 --> 02:17:20.399
I know, that's the problem.
2526
02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:23.559
Got to quantify it there. I think Tom Petty's worth
2527
02:17:23.600 --> 02:17:25.280
sacrificing some Self Park hours.
2528
02:17:25.680 --> 02:17:27.760
Yeah. Well, I don't watch much TV, but when I do,
2529
02:17:27.799 --> 02:17:31.239
it's usually something stupid like South Park or Sons of Anarchy. Lately,
2530
02:17:31.479 --> 02:17:34.680
great show running Down a Dream, Running down a Dream.
2531
02:17:34.680 --> 02:17:37.879
It's called that kind of hold that thought, running down
2532
02:17:37.959 --> 02:17:42.040
a dream. But yeah, I dude, this is These are
2533
02:17:42.040 --> 02:17:42.959
always fun episodes.
2534
02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:46.280
Man. Fantastic fantastic book.
2535
02:17:46.760 --> 02:17:51.440
Oh nice, Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm a nerd with
2536
02:17:51.520 --> 02:17:53.319
like autographs and stuff. I need to try and find
2537
02:17:53.360 --> 02:17:55.680
some autographs of that, dude. I'm sure that they're expensive,
2538
02:17:55.760 --> 02:18:00.399
but I got all kinds of autographs of random things. Man.
2539
02:18:00.559 --> 02:18:03.879
Mike Campbell just came through Nashville not that long ago
2540
02:18:04.239 --> 02:18:08.520
with his band, and I couldn't get there. Playing a
2541
02:18:08.559 --> 02:18:11.200
pretty small place and it was one of those places where, like,
2542
02:18:11.280 --> 02:18:13.440
you know, you pretty much guaranteed you're gonna get to
2543
02:18:13.479 --> 02:18:17.239
say hi, you know, And I just I actually just
2544
02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:19.719
saw in that same place I a week or so ago.
2545
02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:22.600
I don't know if any of y'all are in Excess fans,
2546
02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:27.479
but a huge in excess fan. And uh Andrew Ferris,
2547
02:18:27.799 --> 02:18:31.440
you know the they're the three Ferris brothers that pretty
2548
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:34.520
much did all the music, and Michael Hutchins wrote wrote
2549
02:18:34.559 --> 02:18:36.920
the words, but Andrew Ferris, of those three brothers, he
2550
02:18:37.040 --> 02:18:40.879
wrote ninety percent of in Excess songs. And he did
2551
02:18:40.959 --> 02:18:45.040
a just real quiet little gig here in Nashville about
2552
02:18:45.040 --> 02:18:47.799
a week and a half ago, and there, I bet
2553
02:18:47.879 --> 02:18:51.879
you there was seventy five people there. And uh, and
2554
02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:55.239
I right before he started, I went and went and
2555
02:18:55.360 --> 02:18:58.000
used the bathroom. And the bathroom was way far at
2556
02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:00.319
the other end of the place, and it was empty anyways.
2557
02:19:00.360 --> 02:19:03.600
And so I'm in there by by myself and washing
2558
02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:06.719
my hands, and out of the stall comes Andrew. It's
2559
02:19:06.840 --> 02:19:09.280
just me and him in the in this big, cavernous,
2560
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:11.879
lonely bathroom hat and I kind of I kind of
2561
02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:14.440
had a little like starstruck moment. I was, I, dude,
2562
02:19:15.200 --> 02:19:17.639
this is really uncomfortable and I'm not gonna want to
2563
02:19:17.639 --> 02:19:22.319
shake I know you don't shake it. But I'm blessed
2564
02:19:22.319 --> 02:19:24.200
to be here. And it's just an honor to to
2565
02:19:24.719 --> 02:19:26.479
to get to see you. And he was like, all right, man,
2566
02:19:26.600 --> 02:19:28.360
He's like, I'll give you a left handed handshake and
2567
02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:32.040
in his great Australian accent and fantastic.
2568
02:19:33.399 --> 02:19:36.639
So you get to see like the greats just walking
2569
02:19:36.719 --> 02:19:40.920
around sometimes in Nashville because I love country music, so
2570
02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:42.000
just curious.
2571
02:19:42.479 --> 02:19:47.319
The cool thing about Nashville is good, bad or otherwise.
2572
02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:55.200
There are so many like just legendary people. It's it's
2573
02:19:55.319 --> 02:20:00.559
not like it's not a big deal to see someone
2574
02:20:01.239 --> 02:20:03.760
now if you are new to the area, it is.
2575
02:20:04.200 --> 02:20:06.200
But for the people that live have lived here a while,
2576
02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:08.399
it's not. And and I used to do you remember
2577
02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:12.799
Tower Records that the store Tower Records, big huge record
2578
02:20:12.840 --> 02:20:16.879
store chain. Anyways, I I I used to. I used
2579
02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:19.799
to manage one back in the day here in Nashville.
2580
02:20:20.360 --> 02:20:23.559
And Garth Brooks used to come in on the regular.
2581
02:20:23.799 --> 02:20:27.600
And oh, he's from Oklahoma that my sister lives in
2582
02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:30.639
his city they have everywhere.
2583
02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:32.920
Yeah, and he's he's also got a residence up up
2584
02:20:32.959 --> 02:20:36.680
in Hendersonville here north of Nashville. And but yeah, but
2585
02:20:36.840 --> 02:20:40.319
his main main residence is he's he's Oklahoma based, but
2586
02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:42.799
he's in you know, he's in Nashville quite a bit, and.
2587
02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:45.920
There's a theory that he's like a fucking serial killer
2588
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:46.479
or something.
2589
02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:51.879
Yeah, I've heard that. I yeah, I don't know about that.
2590
02:20:51.959 --> 02:20:53.520
Probably the real smile.
2591
02:20:54.120 --> 02:20:56.639
Yeah, it's it's interesting he got pegged on that. Yet
2592
02:20:56.680 --> 02:20:59.840
Dolly Parton can fund the Magage abs and she gets away,
2593
02:21:00.079 --> 02:21:00.479
got free.
2594
02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.200
That's a stop serial killing.
2595
02:21:03.799 --> 02:21:06.280
Yeah, that's corporately.
2596
02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:10.319
You used to used to you told me on the
2597
02:21:10.479 --> 02:21:13.200
last time the three of us got together. You talked
2598
02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:16.000
about running into Johnny Cash there near the end of
2599
02:21:16.079 --> 02:21:17.360
his life at that record store.
2600
02:21:17.440 --> 02:21:21.760
Yeah. Oh yeah, he coupled and in fact we okay,
2601
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:26.040
Johnny Cash's daughter, Roseanne Roseanne Cash, she was married to
2602
02:21:26.120 --> 02:21:30.079
Rodney Crowell, another country music so power country music power
2603
02:21:30.120 --> 02:21:32.760
couple of the seventies, and they had three daughters. And
2604
02:21:32.959 --> 02:21:36.200
one of their daughters, so that would be Johnny's granddaughter,
2605
02:21:37.760 --> 02:21:41.040
had some had some problems earlier in life with some
2606
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:44.440
substance abuse and all, and was getting her life back together.
2607
02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:47.040
And Johnny asked us at the store if we could
2608
02:21:47.440 --> 02:21:49.239
put her to, you know, give give her a because
2609
02:21:49.280 --> 02:21:51.520
because he he'd come in quite a bit and I
2610
02:21:51.559 --> 02:21:54.079
think he liked the vibe there, and he certainly knew
2611
02:21:54.079 --> 02:21:56.639
the people and try I think semi trusted the people.
2612
02:21:57.040 --> 02:21:59.559
And he wanted his he wanted his granddaughter to kind
2613
02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:01.520
of get back on her feet, and so he asked
2614
02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:04.600
if we could hire her. And so we, uh we
2615
02:22:04.840 --> 02:22:06.559
we hired her and and and put her to work,
2616
02:22:06.639 --> 02:22:08.840
and she and I ended up writing some writing some
2617
02:22:08.959 --> 02:22:12.360
music together, and and uh spending some time out you know,
2618
02:22:12.799 --> 02:22:14.760
at what John and you know, at the time, John
2619
02:22:14.799 --> 02:22:16.840
and June were both still alive and and and and
2620
02:22:16.959 --> 02:22:20.159
went out there to their place and and uh, now,
2621
02:22:20.239 --> 02:22:22.959
the Cash family is an interesting that there's a lot
2622
02:22:23.079 --> 02:22:26.280
been a lot of turmoil in that family. But Johnny,
2623
02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:30.120
Johnny was always just a just a real kind of
2624
02:22:30.159 --> 02:22:35.920
a grandfather. He type just just a sweet, towering grandfather.
2625
02:22:35.440 --> 02:22:35.840
Of a guy.
2626
02:22:36.040 --> 02:22:38.920
You know, Well, do you think, because like we obviously
2627
02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:41.639
talk about Laurel Canyon, but I'm sure there's a Laurel
2628
02:22:41.719 --> 02:22:44.440
Canyon of the country music scene with Johnny Cash and
2629
02:22:44.600 --> 02:22:47.440
like Jerry Lee Lewis and all them. Oh, oh my god,
2630
02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:51.479
a Laurel Canyon of like nineties country too, if I'm
2631
02:22:51.639 --> 02:22:55.040
just being honest, and I love nineties country, but I'm
2632
02:22:55.079 --> 02:22:57.680
sure some of the assholes were up to fucking no good,
2633
02:22:57.719 --> 02:23:00.200
but nobody really ever talks about it because K Tree
2634
02:23:00.280 --> 02:23:04.360
is supposed to be like the good Christian clean Yeah,
2635
02:23:04.639 --> 02:23:07.319
but I'm sure it's just as convoluted as Laurel Canyon
2636
02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:08.479
if you really dug into it.
2637
02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:11.920
Yeah, and you know, there's there's I think I think
2638
02:23:12.040 --> 02:23:20.719
that any any mainstream entertainment brand or cast of characters
2639
02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:24.360
has got Sheananigan's attached to it because.
2640
02:23:24.200 --> 02:23:26.280
Wasn't Elvis didn't he come out of Memphis?
2641
02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:28.000
Yeah?
2642
02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:31.079
Yeah, So I think a lot of it comes from
2643
02:23:31.159 --> 02:23:33.559
the rock scene more and it's more high profile because
2644
02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:36.079
that's the counterculture, Like rock and roll is supposed to
2645
02:23:36.120 --> 02:23:38.920
be counterculture, right, and I don't think country music is
2646
02:23:38.959 --> 02:23:41.360
supposed to be so much, at least back then, right
2647
02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:45.079
like rock was getting a little like it started off
2648
02:23:45.079 --> 02:23:46.959
a little bit weird, right like we even going back
2649
02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:49.360
to the Beatles, like everyone was like, oh no, you
2650
02:23:49.399 --> 02:23:52.360
shouldn't be listening to this stuff. It was like completely
2651
02:23:52.399 --> 02:23:54.280
different music that you're supposed to be listening to.
2652
02:23:54.879 --> 02:23:58.239
Well now, but you know, now the country artists of
2653
02:23:58.319 --> 02:24:02.959
today are super counter culture, like like Beyonce and post Malone.
2654
02:24:04.879 --> 02:24:07.440
Oh yeah, you had me for a second there, yea
2655
02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:10.639
even like jelly roll, right, like jelly roll, this dude
2656
02:24:12.280 --> 02:24:15.399
jelly like meant to be counterculture, and I don't think
2657
02:24:15.399 --> 02:24:17.319
he really is. You know, I love you.
2658
02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:19.680
He's jelly rolls from from here.
2659
02:24:19.719 --> 02:24:20.399
In fact, a.
2660
02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:24.760
Guy that a guy that lives not too far from
2661
02:24:25.360 --> 02:24:27.680
my little town. He was actually the guy that that
2662
02:24:27.799 --> 02:24:30.000
found jelly roll and kind of got him on his
2663
02:24:30.520 --> 02:24:33.520
got him on his way. But no, he's a there.
2664
02:24:33.639 --> 02:24:38.879
There is a good example of someone who I can
2665
02:24:38.959 --> 02:24:41.239
tell you, at least at this point, that's a that
2666
02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:42.479
was real person.
2667
02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:45.440
No, I think, yeah, I think he is. But yeah,
2668
02:24:45.479 --> 02:24:47.200
it's just it's interesting that that's kind of what the
2669
02:24:47.239 --> 02:24:51.600
counterculture is right now, like Trump movement.
2670
02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:55.280
I was gonna say, I don't Scott free, even though
2671
02:24:55.319 --> 02:24:58.360
a lot of people are on like the we love
2672
02:24:58.440 --> 02:24:59.760
jelly roll thing right now.
2673
02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:04.799
Yeah, but it's the flavor of the you're supposed to
2674
02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:06.680
like it, like it, you know, it's one of the
2675
02:25:06.799 --> 02:25:10.559
things that's you know you that was very very the
2676
02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:16.680
powers behind that brand gonna make that a major brand.
2677
02:25:16.840 --> 02:25:19.040
That that was the deal that he signed on for.
2678
02:25:20.520 --> 02:25:22.360
Yeah, man, I think that dude is like a it's
2679
02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:26.040
like a practicing magician of some kind, like he's he's
2680
02:25:26.319 --> 02:25:29.719
very familiar with like energies. And because I watched his
2681
02:25:29.840 --> 02:25:32.159
documentary it was on Hulu, it was a big, major thing.
2682
02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:35.159
But like I said, I don't get emotional about much
2683
02:25:35.319 --> 02:25:37.639
at all. And I almost cried a couple of times
2684
02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:39.719
watching this dude talk to people, just because he's very
2685
02:25:39.879 --> 02:25:44.879
good at, like, you know, medilating emotion. Can you can
2686
02:25:45.040 --> 02:25:47.319
hear one of his songs, and me and my my
2687
02:25:47.440 --> 02:25:49.280
dad loves him. So we went and saw him and uh,
2688
02:25:50.239 --> 02:25:52.040
someone else, I forget who it was. They just toured
2689
02:25:52.120 --> 02:25:55.040
not too long ago. And yeah, man, he's he's got
2690
02:25:55.079 --> 02:25:57.520
a powerful voice. I mean. But yeah, when that dude
2691
02:25:57.600 --> 02:25:59.239
talks to people, and like you sit there and you
2692
02:25:59.280 --> 02:26:01.360
see him crying, it makes you want to join him
2693
02:26:01.479 --> 02:26:03.360
and just cry with him for no reason. And it's
2694
02:26:03.399 --> 02:26:03.920
fucking weird.
2695
02:26:03.959 --> 02:26:10.319
Man. The ability the ability to vessel is a good word, uh,
2696
02:26:11.360 --> 02:26:14.799
but the ability to connect with people, that's a special ability.
2697
02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:17.920
And and people that have it and want to get
2698
02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:22.840
into public work entertainment in particular, the ones that are
2699
02:26:22.879 --> 02:26:25.360
really really good at it, they're the ones that the
2700
02:26:25.559 --> 02:26:27.719
the the powers that shouldn't be are going to come
2701
02:26:28.280 --> 02:26:30.040
come a call in at some point and there and
2702
02:26:30.079 --> 02:26:32.479
then and they're gonna They're gonna want to have a talk,
2703
02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:37.840
and I'm gonna want to please no, not ice cubean
2704
02:26:38.079 --> 02:26:40.159
Tom Petty. Let's let's let's say you.
2705
02:26:41.159 --> 02:26:44.399
I thought it was very poetic and ironic that we
2706
02:26:44.520 --> 02:26:47.159
all kind of agreed that, like morrisy is all we
2707
02:26:47.280 --> 02:26:47.680
got now.
2708
02:26:48.639 --> 02:26:51.360
I just saw Morcy I just saw about a month ago.
2709
02:26:52.159 --> 02:26:52.799
So good.
2710
02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:54.680
Oh, it's like a I was like a fourteen year
2711
02:26:54.680 --> 02:26:57.280
old girl at that show. I was so happy to
2712
02:26:57.360 --> 02:27:00.639
be there. He's he's so he's so awesome, man, what what?
2713
02:27:00.760 --> 02:27:00.799
What?
2714
02:27:01.120 --> 02:27:03.959
What an awesome sassy old queen? He is.
2715
02:27:05.479 --> 02:27:07.040
Not even gonna lie. I don't even know who that is?
2716
02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:10.479
Who is you know the Smiths saying like, is it
2717
02:27:10.639 --> 02:27:12.440
called how Soon? Is now their big hit?
2718
02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:15.319
They've had so many? Yeah, queen is dead.
2719
02:27:16.559 --> 02:27:18.760
I mean probably if I heard it man, to be honest,
2720
02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:21.879
but yeah, I do not know who that is the Smiths.
2721
02:27:22.000 --> 02:27:24.319
But he's got quite a huge solo career as well.
2722
02:27:24.479 --> 02:27:27.559
But way back in the early eighties, there was this
2723
02:27:27.719 --> 02:27:31.319
band called and they were pretty big. We all all
2724
02:27:31.600 --> 02:27:32.799
kids them back then.
2725
02:27:33.159 --> 02:27:35.959
I love Johnny mar too, like that fucking guitar. I
2726
02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:39.159
mean he joined Marinas Mouse and changed their sound.
2727
02:27:39.239 --> 02:27:41.680
But yeah, about about a year and a half ago,
2728
02:27:41.799 --> 02:27:44.040
my wife and I went and saw The Killers. And
2729
02:27:44.200 --> 02:27:46.559
I do not go in and seeing arena shows, but
2730
02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:49.159
we saw The Killers and Johnny Marr opened up for
2731
02:27:49.799 --> 02:27:52.879
Oh Nice, and half of the set was Smith's songs,
2732
02:27:53.079 --> 02:27:55.559
and it was I have to admit, as an old dude,
2733
02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:58.520
it was pretty awesome listening to an arena full of
2734
02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:01.680
people sing sing those songs, you know, and there's nobody
2735
02:28:01.719 --> 02:28:04.200
in the crowd that was under the age of forty.
2736
02:28:04.520 --> 02:28:04.639
You know.
2737
02:28:06.840 --> 02:28:09.040
It's goods. Concerts are probably some of the best stuff.
2738
02:28:11.079 --> 02:28:15.239
Well, guys, we're creeping up past two and a half hours.
2739
02:28:16.840 --> 02:28:20.760
I'll go around the house here. Any any thought, closing
2740
02:28:20.879 --> 02:28:23.399
thoughts or stuff you wanted to interject earlier that you
2741
02:28:23.440 --> 02:28:25.719
did weren't able to. I'll start with ladies first. I'll
2742
02:28:25.719 --> 02:28:28.440
start with Julia, then we'll go Ryan, and then we'll
2743
02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:29.399
close out with John.
2744
02:28:30.360 --> 02:28:33.520
I don't really have anything else about some of the
2745
02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:36.719
topics we were talking about, but I do want John
2746
02:28:36.799 --> 02:28:38.520
to come on my show because I feel like we
2747
02:28:38.559 --> 02:28:44.239
could really get down on some healthcare stuff. And yeah,
2748
02:28:44.319 --> 02:28:46.920
I think we could, we could talk more in depth
2749
02:28:47.559 --> 02:28:50.680
in another episode, just on like health stuff, because it
2750
02:28:50.920 --> 02:28:54.680
really interests me. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea,
2751
02:28:54.760 --> 02:28:58.680
but I have been looking into a lot of stuff myself,
2752
02:28:58.879 --> 02:29:01.680
especially like I said, with my mom having cancer, and
2753
02:29:01.959 --> 02:29:04.120
I have a ton of theories that I would love
2754
02:29:04.200 --> 02:29:05.639
to run past you on some of that.
2755
02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:09.319
So you'd say, say, other word, I'm a little shy
2756
02:29:09.319 --> 02:29:10.840
and it's hard to get me to talk but once.
2757
02:29:13.159 --> 02:29:15.760
But yeah, I know, I I have.
2758
02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:19.239
Really enjoyed our conversation today. I think it was a
2759
02:29:19.360 --> 02:29:19.879
great time.
2760
02:29:22.000 --> 02:29:22.200
Ryan.
2761
02:29:22.879 --> 02:29:27.360
Yeah, yeah, conversation. I agree with everything that Julia said
2762
02:29:27.360 --> 02:29:29.399
as far as the conversation being great. It's always nice
2763
02:29:29.440 --> 02:29:31.840
to connect with you Colby and then John, you know,
2764
02:29:32.120 --> 02:29:34.440
only talking about once a year, but you know, two
2765
02:29:34.520 --> 02:29:37.000
years in a row, and it's been awesome both times.
2766
02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:40.639
It's it's make it more like six months next time. Yeah,
2767
02:29:40.840 --> 02:29:44.360
I mean in the summer, right, Yeah.
2768
02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:51.600
Yeah, it's very fun And I learned a lot talking
2769
02:29:51.639 --> 02:29:53.399
to both of you guys, and then obviously Julia too
2770
02:29:53.479 --> 02:29:56.000
learned a lot talking with you. And yeah, I'm not
2771
02:29:56.079 --> 02:29:58.680
doing as much content these days, but we do do
2772
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:00.719
the weekly news show me and my friend Ghosts from
2773
02:30:00.719 --> 02:30:04.200
my Third Day podcast. People sending clips and we share
2774
02:30:04.239 --> 02:30:07.079
those and talk about them. Usually talk about some food
2775
02:30:07.120 --> 02:30:08.799
and some other bullshit, and it's just kind of a
2776
02:30:08.959 --> 02:30:12.479
chill little chat that we have, you know, talking about
2777
02:30:12.520 --> 02:30:17.040
snoos and other shows. It's Conspiracy Underground News Team, you know,
2778
02:30:17.440 --> 02:30:18.000
but you can.
2779
02:30:19.879 --> 02:30:20.000
You know.
2780
02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:24.079
The acronym is Kunt Spirity Underground News Team. It's the
2781
02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:27.600
show called Cunt. Everyone loves it. But yeah, I'm looking
2782
02:30:27.600 --> 02:30:29.920
at it, getting more into more episodes. I'm actually working
2783
02:30:29.959 --> 02:30:33.440
on a Disturbing Toys episode. You know that there's a
2784
02:30:33.479 --> 02:30:37.159
company called Lissi that made a nine to eleven pez
2785
02:30:37.239 --> 02:30:41.399
dispenser type thing. Oh my god, it's two towers and
2786
02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:44.559
a plane. There's there's all kinds of fucked up toys
2787
02:30:44.639 --> 02:30:46.559
that are out there, and so I'm getting into that,
2788
02:30:47.360 --> 02:30:49.399
trying to get back into doing like the solo content
2789
02:30:49.479 --> 02:30:54.280
more and more. So you find me a Dangerous World podcast.
2790
02:30:55.040 --> 02:30:58.079
Dangerous were so modest with your plugs, dude.
2791
02:30:58.879 --> 02:31:01.239
Yeah, well I don't. I don't do as much these days, man,
2792
02:31:01.280 --> 02:31:03.159
I've really been I used to do like four or
2793
02:31:03.159 --> 02:31:04.760
five episodes a week, and now I'm just doing the
2794
02:31:04.799 --> 02:31:06.520
one so I'm trying to get back more into it
2795
02:31:06.559 --> 02:31:08.639
because you know, the ad revenue has gone down and
2796
02:31:08.680 --> 02:31:10.360
all that stuff. So I'm trying to, you know, break
2797
02:31:10.440 --> 02:31:12.319
back in more. So we'll get there.
2798
02:31:12.959 --> 02:31:16.680
You can hit me up anytime, Ryan, Cool, Yeah, I will.
2799
02:31:18.280 --> 02:31:20.799
Yeah, that's always fun. So yeah, thank you all the time.
2800
02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:23.559
Job Now she's a podcast about it.
2801
02:31:23.760 --> 02:31:27.120
Yep, that's dope. That is fun.
2802
02:31:27.159 --> 02:31:27.360
Yeah.
2803
02:31:27.399 --> 02:31:29.600
No, I will definitely hit Chipson, Julia.
2804
02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:34.479
All right, John, Last, but certainly not least wrap it
2805
02:31:34.600 --> 02:31:36.680
up in a pretty little bow and plug anything you
2806
02:31:37.040 --> 02:31:38.000
got going these days.
2807
02:31:38.840 --> 02:31:41.920
Well, I'm not here to plug anything in particular. I
2808
02:31:42.040 --> 02:31:44.600
just always appreciate the conversation and I think, you know,
2809
02:31:44.719 --> 02:31:48.200
like I think it is. I would I would ask
2810
02:31:48.319 --> 02:31:51.120
the listeners and the viewers, those that have hung in
2811
02:31:51.319 --> 02:31:55.719
this far, first of all, thank you. Secondly, a lot
2812
02:31:55.799 --> 02:31:58.920
of times when you hear people talking about the topics
2813
02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:03.159
like we talked about on this episode, some of this
2814
02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:07.479
stuff is so we taught. It might sound matter of fact,
2815
02:32:09.120 --> 02:32:15.399
but I want more people. I want I want to
2816
02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.920
get I'd like to get rid of the word conspiracy,
2817
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:22.879
because the word conspiracy in itself is a conspiracy. Yeah,
2818
02:32:22.879 --> 02:32:25.719
I mean that wasn't even really used until the JFK
2819
02:32:26.520 --> 02:32:31.239
is a prouder film thing. But anyways, it's it's it's showbiz.
2820
02:32:31.639 --> 02:32:36.000
It's it's showbiz. And these are actors and they're being
2821
02:32:36.079 --> 02:32:38.719
paid to do a job, and they're doing that job.
2822
02:32:39.520 --> 02:32:46.840
And be more open to the fact that actors exist
2823
02:32:48.280 --> 02:32:53.159
and these narratives are storylines, and they are being paid
2824
02:32:53.200 --> 02:32:57.239
to do what they're told. And you might think that
2825
02:32:57.360 --> 02:33:01.719
that's conspiratorial, but being an actor is a trade that's
2826
02:33:01.719 --> 02:33:04.000
been around for a long time and it's not going anywhere,
2827
02:33:04.079 --> 02:33:07.000
and there will always be actors, there will always be storylines.
2828
02:33:07.319 --> 02:33:11.000
And as long as people are glued to their screens
2829
02:33:11.040 --> 02:33:15.600
and electronic devices and taking their cues from those screens
2830
02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:20.040
and those electronic devices, that's really what most people's view
2831
02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:22.559
of the world is is what their screens and their
2832
02:33:22.559 --> 02:33:27.319
electronic devices are telling them. And these aren't sovereign devices.
2833
02:33:27.440 --> 02:33:30.760
These devices are are they're made by companies. They know
2834
02:33:30.920 --> 02:33:34.920
exactly what they're doing, they know what they're allowing you
2835
02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:37.639
to see, what they're allowing you to hear, and.
2836
02:33:39.479 --> 02:33:40.920
Just be I don't know.
2837
02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:42.479
Again, I'd like to get rid of the use of
2838
02:33:42.520 --> 02:33:44.239
the word conspiracy.
2839
02:33:43.879 --> 02:33:46.239
And and and and and do you think I should
2840
02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:47.479
change the name of my show?
2841
02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:50.559
No, no, no, because because that's a good use. That's
2842
02:33:50.600 --> 02:33:54.040
a good use of because it pull it pulls, it
2843
02:33:54.079 --> 02:33:56.680
pulls in the right audience. But when we're talking about
2844
02:33:56.840 --> 02:33:59.559
like things like you know, oh, the Taylor Swift that
2845
02:33:59.760 --> 02:34:01.559
was on stage the other night might not be the
2846
02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:07.680
original Taylor Swift, that's not conspiratorial. That's showbiz. That's show buzy.
2847
02:34:08.159 --> 02:34:11.280
And you know, anyone that's run a business and had
2848
02:34:11.319 --> 02:34:14.719
to deal with employees knows that you you've got shifts
2849
02:34:14.799 --> 02:34:17.719
to cover, and you've got positions that need filled, and
2850
02:34:17.840 --> 02:34:21.120
you've got tasks that need to be done. And it's uh,
2851
02:34:21.239 --> 02:34:23.760
it works good when you find willing participants who are
2852
02:34:24.840 --> 02:34:26.719
good at their job and willing to do that job.
2853
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And it's no different in the entertainment industry. And if
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it's coming off of your screens, it's all entertainment.
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Well, Colby is a crisis actor. He plays a great
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rape victim there.
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I don't know that I want to know the backstory
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to that, but he's smiling. Let's just leave it at that.
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I'm curious about the backstory myself.
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Oh it sounds like sounds like you might be.
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MK Ultra sponsored because as he played that, So John,
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you don't want to plug anything. I'm not going to
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force you.
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No, you know, I'll tell you what you want you
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I I if if you can see the screen, you
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know you see the naturally better for you dot com
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U r L. That is a now that is pure
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02:35:16.559 --> 02:35:20.760
health and wellness knowledge share right there. So we're not
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talking about the shape of the earth or Taylor Swift
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02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:26.079
stand ins or any of that kind of stuff. There's
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pure health and wellness. And when I am not diving
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down rabbit holes, which I love to do, I'm I'm
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and because of some of the rabbit holes I've dug down,
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I'm just my heart is in health and wellness. I
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want I want to see my wife get better. I
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want to see other people who have problems not to
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02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:52.959
turn to the uh the medical industrial complex. We we
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02:35:53.120 --> 02:35:55.680
we know not to look to the fast food industry
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for our nutrition. Well. I would like to get people
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in the mindset that the medical industrial complex is kind
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of like the fast food industry of health and wellness.
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And so if we know to stay away from fast food,
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we'll stay away from fast food. And and so if
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you're interested in any of that kind of stuff, go
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to Naturallybetter for you dot com. And that's that's kind
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of what I do with my spare time. Just I try.
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There's there's some good people that I'm involved with. There,
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there's a good community of people and a huge knowledge
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share and we there there there there is a we
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02:36:30.399 --> 02:36:34.159
want to see everybody live a better life naturally and
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so so if that resonates with you, go there. But
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that's about as much of a pitch as as I
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care to do.
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All right, Well, that's all. That's all we want to hear.
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And I think that angle uh, I mean it's not
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conspiratorial and necessarily but we all know about the medical
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industrial complex. Ryan and John both use those terms, and
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I think, yes, during more people words, what you've got
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going on over there is very important or or you
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know what you.
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02:37:04.760 --> 02:37:07.600
Know it's it's been said many many times. You know
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02:37:07.719 --> 02:37:11.760
your your your medicine cabinet is actually your kitchen. So
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02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:16.200
start taking that seriously. Yeah, I don't I don't know
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02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:19.399
why people choose to offload the responsibility of their health
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02:37:19.440 --> 02:37:22.000
and wellness to a corporate government entity, but you know
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02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:24.760
it could start in your kitchen. There's your medicine cabinet.
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02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:27.200
Start taking it seriously. And I hope that, you know,
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I hope that we get to a place someday soon
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where people walk into your average American grocery store and
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I hope they're offended by what they see, because all
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02:37:36.040 --> 02:37:39.079
it is is like food, porns, just sugar and carbs
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02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:42.840
and crab and oh gross, seed oils and shit. There's
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02:37:42.920 --> 02:37:47.600
there's hardly anything edible inside most grocery stores. It's not food,
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02:37:47.680 --> 02:37:52.159
it's feed. And you know, food is stuff in its
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02:37:52.239 --> 02:37:55.680
natural form, and it's hard to find some natural stuff,
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02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:58.920
even even in the best grocery stores, you know, even
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02:37:59.040 --> 02:38:01.440
even in the produce sect, and try and find, you know,
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produce that hasn't been sprayed with shit or grown in
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02:38:05.159 --> 02:38:09.120
toxic chemically shit, or packaged and shit. I mean, it's
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02:38:10.040 --> 02:38:12.959
the only tomato you can trust is the tomato that
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02:38:13.079 --> 02:38:15.479
you or somebody you knew, group you know, and so
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02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:18.520
eat those tomatoes. Don't buy them from corporate sources. You know.
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That.
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Well, I'm going to end this recording. Thank you, conspiracy players.
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02:38:27.239 --> 02:38:29.680
Be sure to wash behind your ears and grow your
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own tomatoes, and I think everything will be all right
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At the Chatt
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Welcome to Throwback Thursday.
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So these are some of the oldies but goodies.
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The classics, and they are some of the episodes that
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are probably in the back of the catalog that you
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haven't managed to listen to yet. So just a warning,
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some of my thoughts, feelings, opinions may have changed since
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the recordings of these episodes, doesn't make them any less interesting.
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So as an evolving human being, I may say something
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in these episodes that I don't necessary agree with today,
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but these episodes are the classics, and I just thought
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I would do a little something fun for us. So
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welcome and enjoy Throwback Thursday.
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Hello conspiracy Players, Welcome to another episode, this one being
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a reunion of sorts. We have three returning guests, John Gusty,
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Ryan Dean, and Julia from Cosmic Peach podcast, Ryan Dean
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from a number of podcasts, and we're gonna be talking
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about probably all sorts of stuff today, but to bring
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it to like a focal point right off the bat,
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before we started recording, we were talking about these big
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staged events that have happened throughout history, and then there
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seems to be one going on right now. And I'll
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give each of you, you know, your time to kind
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of wrap up what your thoughts are about it. We
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did it briefly, but we could really dive into it now.
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And John, and do you want to start with some
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of the stuff you were saying before.
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Oh about Luigi?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, I uh, well, you know we were we were
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we were talking about you know, staged events. And and
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I say, yeah, there seems to be one happening in
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real time right now, because I always you know, after
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I assassinate someone, I ditched my backpack, peace out for
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five days, but still keep my manifesto and the gun
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I used on me. That just doesn't sound plausible. Plus,
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anytime mainstream media jumps on something with such fervor it
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it is just a red flag to me. This kind
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of people get whacked all the time, you know. And
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I started, I started thinking about this back in the day,
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like with remember the John Benet Ramsey case.
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You know, Oh you're gonna get her going now.
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I didn't like a three part series on John Benny Ramsey.
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Well wait a second, John, you read Program to Kill right?
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Yeah?
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Oh yeah, he has a chapter on John Beney in there,
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because it's so fucked up.
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Well, but I didn't even know who Dave McGowan was
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back when when that happened, you know, but when it happened,
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I did go. You know, this type of stuff happens
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every day, multiple times a day, all over the probably
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with within ten miles of anybody right now, that exact
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same thing happens. So why this one Why does this
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one case get such again across the board, network participation,
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and all of a sudden it's a thing. And and
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so this whole ceo whacking thinks justice seems like another
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one of those like like people get whacked all the time.
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And to what I think this is is I think
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this is a this is setting the table for a
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lot of these corporate big wigs to piece out legitimately
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or illegitimately. You and when we start talking about some
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of the entertainment stuff, you know, like is you know,
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is Bowie really dead? Is Petty really dead? Is Prince
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really dead? Or or did they negotiate their you know,
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their contract out and just pieced out, you know, or
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you know, so that I think that kind of stuff.
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I don't this whole Luigi thing, I don't. It's it's
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just not what they say it is. I don't think
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that they at the very least, I think as far
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as I'll go right now, is I will it might
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be an m k Ultra type of thing where you
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know that that that that kid was for whatever reason
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we I don't know, is family connections or whatever, but
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it's you know, what was the I'm blanking on the
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kid's name the the shooter? Was it James something that
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the shooter that went and you know, did the job
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and then went and sat in the car and waited
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for the police, or like in the DC Snipers, yeah, yeah,
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or in the DC Sniper case where the official gets
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on TV and he says the code words or whatever
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and then you know, the person turns themselves in, you know,
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not too far after. So it might be an m
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k Altra thing at at at best, but I don't
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I don't think that.
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Is this the same one that was like eating a
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fucking fish file at and.
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Fucking well a brown everybody was stomping. It was the
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Mick rib because to me, like these now have corporate
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like corporate funding, like both like come up in these
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headlines constantly. He did Starbucks before the killing, got cotton
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a McDonald's.
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Yeah, you see the meme going around, it's a fake
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burger King meme. This is burger King. We don't snitch.
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That should be real. Actually, Ryan, what are your some
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of your thoughts on it initially.
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On this Uh, what's his name? Mangioni. I always struggle
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with Italian names. Yeah, you gotta say it like it's
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a dish when you're saying.
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Remember the trumpet guy from the from the seventies, Chuck Mangioni.
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Oh, okay, so that's how you say it, MANGIONI, perfect.
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Yeah. Man.
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First of all, you know, Gus, you said a lot
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of stuff there. Man, I hope Tom Petty's not that,
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and I know that they say is, but I mean
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I love Tom Petty.
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Man.
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That's that's my Desert Island artist right there. But I
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know we're still not going to get to listen to him, so,
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you know, no new music coming out as far as
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this thing goes. Man, It's it's interesting to me because
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everything that you're saying makes so much sense, right, We're
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not if one of us was going to go and
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do something illegal, especially high profile like that, you're not
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going to like keep a bullet point list of how
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you did it, why you did it. You're not going
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to keep the gun with supposedly the silencer that was
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on there or the suppressor, I should say. But if
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you're trying to do something high profile and you want
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to get recognition for it, I think that you would
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keep some of that stuff on you so that you know,
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you could almost have that stardom about what you did,
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and you can have you know, you can gain attention
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and you can be like, yeah, I did this and
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it was a noble reason why I did it for
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the record. I don't think that that they got the
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right guy. I don't think that that's who did it.
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It just doesn't make sense. I feel like when these
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kinds of things happen, especially to high profile people, the
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people that get caught so quickly afterwards, it's to almost
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deter other people from going out and doing similar things,
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because there's a lot of people that saw something like
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that happen and they're like, yeah, this more CEOs, more
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politicians need to be afraid to walk around in the street.
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So it's almost to deter people from you know, copying
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this guy doing this similar kind of stuff. But it's
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it's it's all so confusing, and I'm not as deep
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into the conspiracy world as I used to be. So
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I'm not researching all these little intricacies and all these
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these these coincidences if you want to call them that,
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but yeah, something's very fishy about it. And did you
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guys see the whole thing with two eighty six that's
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going around It's everywhere right now.
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Yeah, we just featured that in my other show, and
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it was like a kid on TikTok put together. It
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might be the same thing you saw. Yeah, And yeah,
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the the numbers in these very high profile news stories
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are always fun to pay attention to. You get like
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my co host on this show, he's a huge Jamatria guy.
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And then I know, Ryan, you talk about the numerology
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of things a lot, and yeah, yeah, what eighty six?
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It is weird how many times it can come.
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Up right, And like I so it goes as deep
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as like on his Twitter he had the freaking two
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hundred and eighty six pokemon in his in his uh
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you know header up there, and yeah, bray Loom. I
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don't know what bray Loom is, but you know, like
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just a quick description of this thing, you know, for
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what it's worth, it's basically like a little freaking green
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mushroom looking guy. Did I cut out?
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No? I was trying to give you the option to
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share your screen and I started sharing my screen.
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Oh, I can share it if you want.
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If you're going to talk about something you're looking at,
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I'm just going to give you the option that it's
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your choice.
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Well let's pull it up. Yeah, so this is this guy,
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This is this is bray Loom. It'd be great if
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his height was three twenty two, but it's three eleven. Yeah,
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he's a mushroom pokemon. I mean that could if you
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if you're trying to like pull strings and like figure
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out some weird kind of shit that you can point
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fingers to. You know, mushrooms are a hallucinogenic, right, A
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big fan of mushrooms. But just to me, man, they
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had a description of here of what he does. It
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knocks out foes with quick, virtually invisible punches. It scatters
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poisonous spores and throws powerful punches while its foe is
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hampered by inhaled spores. I would assume is what it
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continues saying there. So, like I said, man, there's just
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a lot of weird things. The denial code for his procedure.
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He had like some neck procedure. The denial code for
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insurance was two eighty six. The McDonald's was two hundred
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and eighty six miles away from the killing spot. His
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fucking cousin follows two hundred and eighty six people on Twitter,
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There was just two hundred and eighty six. Over and
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over again. It was weird.
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Do you think though, that the people that craft and
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launch these these are initiatives, These are marketing initiatives. And
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if like we can all wrap ourmont our heads around
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the fact that there are you know, there are normal
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people that work everyday jobs creating video games, hiding deep
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ass easter eggs and all sorts of stuff because that's
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what makes the games compelling. And and I mean some
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of these things are deep. And it's like if we
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do that with video games, and we do. I mean again,
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it's people's jobs to create these story I'm just talking
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video games now. There's people's jobs to create these storylines
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and hide these Easter eggs and make all of this.
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And I mean, and that's happened hundreds of thousands of times.
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How many video games are there, you know, and there's
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some ones that are really fucking deep. Why wouldn't we
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do that with you know, we know the news narratives
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are are created. I mean, you know, you know, at
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least a vast majority of them are. I mean, every
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so often something real does happen, but these type of
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things like why wouldn't they hide some Easter eggs and
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stuff in there to make it interesting so that we,
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you know, get caught up in that kind of stuff
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when and and and and it kind of throws you
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off what it what it? What it actually is all about?
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And you know, I don't know, uh were we were
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we talking uh off camera or or on camera when
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I was saying that, I think this is just the
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wedding of the appetite for the the general uh the
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just the general narrative of being pissed at Corporate America.
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Because I think regardless of whatever team people call them
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find themselves on, whether you're on the red team or
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the blue team or the yellow team, whatever, whatever team
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you're on, I think everybody can agree in mass that
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the powers that shouldn't be need to need to go
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or severely change the way that they're they're doing things.
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So it's a it's a it's a worldwide appetite to
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hate these motherfuckers, to hate these corporate motherfuckers, and there's
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a lot of them in vulnerable positions right now. So
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especially with you know, we're we're new and new season
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of America's Next Top President coming up here, you know,
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real soon, and and whole new cast, you know, and
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and there's gonna be some narratives changing and moving around
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and and and the public, the worldwide public is hungry
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for something. Something's got to happen. And so I don't know,
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I'm just kind of playing this out as if I
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was writing a movie. You know, you got this new
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character come in and going, I'm going to clean house
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and make things better, and I'm gonna get all the
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bad people. And well, if that's really happening, the bad
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people are shipping their pants knowing that that's about to happen,
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and so they need a way out. And so could
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this just be an event, a pop culture event that
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is taking place to make it kind of dumb you,
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not not dumb you down, but numb you or get
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you used to get the masses used to the idea
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of corporate people being being whacked or disappearing or going
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to jail or bad things happening to the corporate people,
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because that seems to be where the narratives are going
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in that direction, and we're not and we're not used to.
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through the scamdemic. There are a significant number of people
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on this earth that were worshiping and listening to the
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every word that the corporate structure was telling them to do.
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They were injecting themselves with things, and they were put
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wearing things, and they were doing everything the corporate structure
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was telling them to do. And and now the narrative
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is changing, and now corporate structure might be having to
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pay for some of its sins. I mean in real life,
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look at what's happened in the last month. I mean,
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in the last month, you've got the Dutch government official
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publicly admitted, you know that the COVID pandemic was a
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NATO operation, you know, and it took and that's that's
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actual headline news. And then here in the States, in
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the last couple of weeks, that five hundred and twenty
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page report by the oversight he pretty much saying that
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everything about the scandemic was bullshit. So You've got the
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US government admitting it was bullshit. You've got the Dutch
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government admitting it was bullshit. Uh, doctor Hay, I believe
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it wasn't. In Australia just the other day was vindicated
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by their Superior Court. You know, he was kind of
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one of the guys there in Australia saying, you know,
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this is all bullshit. All he was just vindicated. So
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now the Australian government is admitting that it was all bullshit.
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So there's a lot of there's a lot of change,
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and it's not because of the Trump thing. I mean,
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that's maybe part of it, but there's a.
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Yeah, exactly, there's there's a lot of change coming. It's
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gonna have the public is expecting things to change, and
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if the shit doesn't change, I think then there's a
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real possibility for an actual revolutionary mindset. Maybe because your
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average every day just looking in America, your average everyday
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American right now is doing one or two things going well.
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If you're if you were a blue people, one of
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the blue people, you're going everything sucks, you know. I
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guess in January, the trucks are gonna come around and
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round up all the women in gays and take them
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to the camps, which of course is not gonna happen,
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but there's some people think that. But if you're a
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red person, you're expecting some shit to happen, and there's
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a lot of red people expecting some shit to happen.
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And if shit doesn't happen, you're gonna have a lot
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of pisko. The blue people are already pissed off, then
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you're gonna have a lot of pissed off red people
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going what the Y? And so I think corporate, the
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corporate structure is has been planning their exit and their
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downfall for a while now. But I think this is
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where it hits mainstream. And I think this Luigi Mangioni
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thing is maybe where it hits mainstream. This is this
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is the beginning of a lot of weird corporate exits
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and whackings. And just like in the music industry, when
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somebody wants to retire, behind the scenes, they want to retire,
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but in the front of the camera, they die and
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they die off. And what's the best thing for a
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musician's career is to die? And then you sell tons
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of stuff and now now you're you know, now you're,
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you know, a legacy artist, and you know, Jimmy Hendrix
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sold a fuck of a lot more product being dead.
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Did I hear Jimmy Hendrix or Morgan Freeman same thing? Yeah, yeah, Jimmy.
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Jimmy Hendrix has sold a lot more product dead than
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he did alive.
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They go to jail too, right, I mean, you see
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this with P Diddy and possibly jay Z coming up here, Like,
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I don't think that that's P Diddy that's actually in jail.
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If you look at the freaking picture, he doesn't have
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the same the same facial features all that stuff. Now,
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it's embarrassing to go to jail the way that P
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Diddy did, but at the same time, it's probably still
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better for his career, right, because I'm trying to find
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a pattern here, because you're saying that you know, this
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will this will be something that's more and more frequent
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in the media that we're gonna see killings or disappearances
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or whatever, these high profile figures, and there could be
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a little bit of a patter and forming with those
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three at least.
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Yeah, And honestly, I think there's a whole other thing
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we could talk about. I don't think you're going to
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actually see jail time because these these characters that are
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committing these crimes are fictional characters. And I think the
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last time we talked, I used the example of Seinfeld
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because he actually used didn't change his name. So there
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is the fictional character of Seinfeld who lives in the
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apartment across the way from Kramer and Elaine and George
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come over. There's that fictional character, but that Seinfeld doesn't
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really exist. That's a fictional character that is a piece
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of media property. Somebody owns that Seinfeld, you know. I
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think Larry David probably owns that Seinfeld. So that fictional
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Seinfeld is a piece of intellectual property that is owned
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by somebody. And then there's the real Jerry Seinfeld that
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is probably sitting. We could go knock on his door
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and have coffee with him right now. Well, there isn't there,
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you know, there isn't really a p Diddy. You know,
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Sean Combs might not even be his real name. That
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might just be his corporate stage name, if you will,
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which is why a lot of these celebrities have stage
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names because they're not real entities, you know, like like
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my my real name is John Gusty. But if I
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had a stage name and I was you know, you know,
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Ricky Fire. You know, if that was my name, you know,
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and Ricky Fire went out and raped a bunch of
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women and stole a bunch of money, you can't you
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can't prosecute Ricky Fire because Ricky Fire doesn't exist. He's
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a character, you know what I mean. And there's and
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and and the same system that own owns and controls
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the courts, owns and controls all the copyrights and all
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of that stuff. So it's an enclosed system. So if
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you're in on it, if you're one of those characters,
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you're not gonna you're you're not gonna see any jail time.
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I mean, they might want every once in a while,
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they might throw like a bone to the unsuspecting public
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and lock somebody, lock somebody up, you.
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Know on camera.
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Oh you know, there's somebody in jail. But are these
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people really sitting in jail in real life?
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I have a huge question for you about that. I
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want Julia to get in on what we were just
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talking about. And then John, you gave me a perfect
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segue with that, because it's something I wanted to bring
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up huge on this episode, But anyway, do you have
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anything to wrap up on the Luigi?
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I was just thinking, like, I think we're all living
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in the most interesting season of American Horror Story. I
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think all this stuff is fake.
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I think.
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I mean, people can disagree with me, but it's like
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you were saying, they play a character and there's like
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the real person and then the character that we all see.
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that it's all fake and it's all staged, and it's
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all so like we're just hitting a climactic moment in
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the season and then you know, we'll see what happens
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later on. But I think a lot of this, even
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like with he Diddy and and they're not going to jail.
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That's probably not even him. They made a freaking Netflix
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movie what was it this year or last year about
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they cloned Tyrone and then everybody had a theory about
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what's his nuts Jamie foxx Fross. He didn't look anything,
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you know what I mean. It's like they're always changing
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the characters and they're always like you know, so, I
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think we're either living in American Horror Story or we're
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living in they cloned Tyrone and there's just a bunch
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of fucking doubles and shit out there, and I don't know.
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Could be both, could be both?
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All right, John, we talked about the West Memphis three
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on the first episode we did together. I want to
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ask you about the Manson killings. Were they real? Were
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they maybe not real? And you talk about these characters
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never seen in jail time? And so was Charlie Manson
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a real person? Was he somebody that got footage of
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Don't I don't believe that Charles Manson was a was
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a real person.
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And Sharon Tate killed.
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Again, Sharon Tate is a character, so they can do
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whatever they want to with their characters. Was the character killed, Well,
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clearly the character was killed, because that's what the storylines is.
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Was there a real human being in real life that died.
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Really. They're big pregnant belly and like all the crime
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scene photos and they sensationalized stuff, you know, because they
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love to put that picture out for everyone to see,
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just like with John the reason. Yeah, big pregnant, bloody
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belly with the fucking news and like all the and
409
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they reposed the bodies. You remember, we were talking about that.
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Kind of the same kind of the same point that
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I made Kolby with the West Memphis three, all right,
412
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and the bodies of the boys, and they're in DVDs
413
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and ship that you can buy. And if if my son,
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if in real life, that happened to my son over
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my fucking dead body, would footage of my dead, naked,
416
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abused boy be allowed to be sold on the I mean,
417
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there's just no, There's no fucking way it would ever happen.
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And same with that, with that, if if Tate was real,
419
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and and and and and and that would do you
420
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honestly think that would you will? If that was your
421
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family member.
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Well, she was also a powerful guy in the military,
423
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so if he didn't want any of those photos person, Yeah,
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he was the prototype of this kind of thing going
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on in that area at this time. So I actually, John,
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the reason I asked you is because after you said
427
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the thing about the West Memphis three, I didn't go
428
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full human vibrations and just start thinking every goddamn thing
429
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is fake. But I do think most of it is.
430
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I mean I think maybe sometimes real shit happens and
431
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they just grab a hold of the narrative and pull
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it where they want that to go. But usually they
433
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just construct the whole thing. So I've been obsessed with
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the Manson killings, and I went and looked back through
435
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these new lenses I have on now, and it seems
436
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fake as fuck on every angle possible. And like you
437
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said about them planting things like the conspiracy candy to
438
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go digging through the Roman Polanski and the witchcraft shit
439
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:44.720
that was going on around all those people, and they're
440
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trying to state sequence. So if you think it's real,
441
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you could tie all these things together that probably don't
442
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even really exist.
443
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If it's real. I think Roman set it up, and
444
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I think he got off on the pictures of her
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bloody pregnant belly. He was probably jacking off to fucking Rosemary, Like, yeah,
446
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.559
what is freaking weird? Though?
447
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What is what is inarguably real, is someone or someone's
448
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:15.319
did craft these narratives, and there was a purpose for
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these narratives to be crafted, and that is I think
450
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where where where the fun conversations lie is who who
451
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and who and why? You know? And it's like, well,
452
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you know, I mean even you know nine you know,
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nine to eleven. I don't you could use nine to
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eleven as an example. People would say, you know, well,
455
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you know, was nine to eleven all about Building seven
456
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and what they had to cover up there? Maybe that
457
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was part of it. Nine to eleven also was just
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like this Luigi thing, a really great event to set
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the tone in public conversation for stuff that was to
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come next, you know. And that that that that started
461
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a whole decade plus of terra no noia, you know.
462
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And it was terror, terror, terror, terror, and you know,
463
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and and it's gone on so long that they had
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to change the narratives. Would that there would be something
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else to be afraid of? And I think that's part
466
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of why the scandemic came up.
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You know.
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But but you know, if terrorism, I've heard some other
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people say this in various ways, but if terrorism was real,
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how come none of the like the actual like things
471
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that matter get terrorized? Like like like like if if
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Colby Kolby, where where what city are you in right now?
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Medford, Oregon, Medford, Oregon?
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And okay, so I'm in Nashville. So if Nashville, Tennessee
475
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went to went to war with Medford, Oregon, do you
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think that if I'm the commander of the army and
477
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I'm I'm trying to take over Medford, Oregon, or I
478
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wanted to bring Medford, Oregon to to its knees, Why
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would I waste my time killing people in some movie theaters,
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or why would I waste my time, you know, blowing
481
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up a marathon? You know, you know what, I'd go
482
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to the Medford, Oregon town offices. I'd seize the or
483
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if I wanted to destroy Medford organ I just blow
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those fuckers up and kill all the people, kill all
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the officials, and then install new people in Medford, Oregon.
486
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But like, we don't see terror events. It's like the
487
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terror events are against the public. They're never against the
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the figureheads, you know, you know, and and if it,
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you know, if it look at that, look at the US.
490
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Has the US not given the rest of the world
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every you know, every reason to to want to let's say,
492
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the US, the District of Columbia has given the world many,
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many reasons to want to want to mess with it.
494
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But but we we rarely see any District of Columbia
495
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official was whacked. You know, do you.
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Think that nuclear weapons exist?
497
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John, No, I don't know.
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I think.
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We're unanimous here.
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I am actually from Oklahoma City, and they have the
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00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.279
Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial that you can go and like
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walk around and like get all this information that's probably
503
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:23.759
totally made up.
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00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.599
Get a mcveag coffee muggle, right, and.
505
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:31.440
Like there's ongoing revenue, man, because I'm sure it's not free.
506
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.440
No, it's like twenty dollars a person to get into.
507
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.160
Like you work around the memorial for free, but if
508
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.640
you want to learn anything about it, you got to pay,
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like twenty dollars a person.
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Pay for your indoctrination.
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This attitude in Oklahoma City, that's like they fully accept
512
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.319
the narrative, and they fully you know, they're they're not
513
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trying to look into it. They don't want to look
514
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into it. They just accept it for what it is
515
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because a lot of people died, you know, and kids died.
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They had like a daycare in there, and a bunch
517
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of kids blown up too, and so nobody wants to
518
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.799
like really look into the Oklahoma City bombing either. But
519
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.039
it's got a bunch of like weird shit too.
520
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.680
Yeah, and Mick, the whole mcveain narrative was kind of
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like this, Luigi thing. It was like, you know when
522
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when when when he was caught in a car with
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expired tag, Dude, you're telling me that if you pull
524
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off a thing like that, your getaway vehicle is gonna
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00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.839
You thought everything through, but you're were like, fuck, my
526
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tags are expired.
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Give me every reason to be sucking pulled over.
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00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.519
And he had his manifesto with him too. I believe
529
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.960
manifesto as well. So you know, it's familiar narratives, just repeating,
530
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.799
but yeah, now it is again. I think we're probably
531
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:49.839
all in agreement. Most of these things are are staged
532
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.759
and manipulated, uh, either partially or completely.
533
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.880
Well, there's another thing that I always think about, especially
534
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.480
it kind of reminded me with this Mangione guy. I'm
535
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.759
just gonna call him Luigi from now and to be honest,
536
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:09.440
but yeah, this Luigi dude. When when people found out
537
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.240
who he was, all these girls online are talking about
538
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.200
how hot he was, Right, he is, it's the same.
539
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:16.200
What's that?
540
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.039
I mean?
541
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:17.680
He is hot?
542
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.319
Is he a good look he's a good looking dude.
543
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:21.759
He's a hot Italian dude.
544
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.400
There's shredded.
545
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.480
He looks like he could have been the stand in
546
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.119
on the music video for beat it. When they arrested him.
547
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.160
He's got that red leather jacket down and he's going
548
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.039
he's like snarling at the fucking camera and ship.
549
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.079
But yeah, I mean, yeah, he's got like he's got
550
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.000
to you know, he's in good shape and all that stuff.
551
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.920
But it reminded me of that Boston bomber, I forget
552
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.160
his name, the younger they.
553
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.079
Put the rolling Stone cover and all that ship.
554
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.680
Yeah, they put him on rolling Stone and so like
555
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.680
I I'm one of these people. Like I said, I'm
556
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.279
not as into conspiracies as I used to be because
557
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.559
it gets exhausting after a certain time, Right, I kind
558
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:55.720
of go through cycles.
559
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Yeah that's him, No, happy meal pox killed in the
560
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McDonald arches, Happy millblacks.
561
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.200
Well, the freaking McDonald's golden arches is a symbol for
562
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.640
it could be for like the Boaz and yaheen thing.
563
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.720
I've seen some things with that, the two arches and
564
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.680
like you know, all the freemasonry that's in arches and
565
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:19.880
all that was bullshit. But anyway, the uh, the narrative
566
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.599
or like what I'm trying to get to say here
567
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.720
is that some of these people, Man, I don't know
568
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.720
if this dude was on any medication some of these
569
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.000
SSRIs and weird shit like that. But I feel like
570
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.039
when like at a certain point, people get lost and
571
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.960
they can they want to just be famous, especially in
572
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.039
this era of TikTok and Instagram and social media, and
573
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.279
they want to go out there and do something that
574
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.960
gets them some recognition. So I'm not saying that he
575
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.799
did or didn't do it. I have no fucking idea,
576
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.359
to be honest, but I refuse personally to just think
577
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.839
that every one of these events is fake, right because
578
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.319
some of this stuff's real. It has to be. There's real,
579
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.680
there's real, real consequences to these things, even if they
580
00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:59.160
are fake.
581
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.480
You just you brought up something that I I think
582
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is important. And this is this is early on. This
583
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.279
is an argument that my my wife would have with
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me on a regular basis. I'll use nine eleven as
585
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an example. Okay, those buildings really did come down, right,
586
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:23.839
the people really did die. So so when when you know,
587
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and and I think that should serve just that should
588
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:34.480
serve as kind of a blueprint for when when we
589
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.400
say things are fake, you know what I mean? Like
590
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like not was was the nine to eleven narrative fake, Yes,
591
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very much so. But buildings did come down, people really
592
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did die.
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00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.279
So so in dual agreeance with you on that, that's
594
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.759
exactly how I feel too. It's like it's real but
595
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:55.759
fake at the same time.
596
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.240
Well, they're willing to use us as unwilling participants in
597
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.559
in the big thing they've planned.
598
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.400
They were fodder.
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00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.160
But like so Ryan, with like the Manson killings, are
600
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.559
you willing to entertain the idea that the people that
601
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.920
got killed in the house on Seattle Drive, if they
602
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.319
could be fake or do you think that?
603
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.000
Sure, I think that a lot of this stuff can
604
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.519
be fake, and there's fake you know, components to it.
605
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.519
But even with and I'll you know, we can talk
606
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.519
more about the Manson stuff, of obviously, but you know,
607
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.599
even with something as crazy as COVID, Like COVID, I
608
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.960
am fully convinced that the story that we were told
609
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.759
is bullshit. And I was, I was a pretty early
610
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.039
adopter of that theory. But COVID had real consequences, like
611
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.880
very real ones, right, And so that I think that
612
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.960
makes it real, and that makes it that makes it
613
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.160
so that like I just get exhausted when so many
614
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of my friends in this community, which I hate that
615
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.279
word too, but so many of my friends in this
616
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.640
conspiracy world say everything's fake and everything's fake and gay
617
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and they say all this stuff, and I'm like, man, like, like,
618
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.559
at what point are you just like a nihilist and
619
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.039
you know, like a complete not a skeptic. What's the
620
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:09.559
other one skeptic? And what another s word? Cynic right,
621
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.760
Like it's just so cynical just to be like.
622
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.400
Ah, that's exactly why I'm not saying that you're doing that, John,
623
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.000
just to be clear, but like it's just to me, man,
624
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.599
you know, these things have real consequences, and I think
625
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.239
that that can't get you know, overlooked.
626
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.199
No, And I know I appreciate you bringing that up,
627
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and that's exactly why I spoke up and said something,
628
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.039
because I'm with you, you know, and I'll tell you
629
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.119
something that's that's that's really really personal. My wife of
630
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:43.679
almost thirty years, Dawn, she hasn't taken a step on
631
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.519
her own, and going on twenty years now, she's been
632
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.239
an electric scooter. She has she has got one of
633
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.480
the most compromised immune systems a human could be cursed with.
634
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.559
So we've been li being with compromised immune system on
635
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.760
a major level. I'm talking like on a life or
636
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.079
death level, for you know, twenty five years or so.
637
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.599
So I know a thing or two about cells and
638
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.079
blood and bacteria because not because I want to, because
639
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:26.239
we've had to learn this, or my you know, I
640
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.559
don't want anything to happen to my wife. And so
641
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:33.159
when all of this stuff started happening, that the COVID
642
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:39.440
stuff started happening, I didn't never once thought it was real.
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I never once thought it was real because I knew
644
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it wasn't real because I was twenty five years into
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knowing that viruses are theoretical, have never been proven, blah
646
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.280
blah blah. I knew. I knew all of that again
647
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.679
out of necessity because of my wife. But around me,
648
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.679
I saw a lot of chaos and suffering and and
649
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.960
and and now arguably a lot of it was self inflicted.
650
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:12.760
A lot of it was was otherwise well meaning people
651
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.519
trusting and acting out of fear. But there was some
652
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.800
very real damp to your point, there was some very
653
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:24.119
real damage done. And yes, so I do think I
654
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.480
I it bothers me too when I hear people, you know,
655
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:33.199
in just anywhere just being being that so cynical, that
656
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.400
that that everything is fake. But I I think, you know,
657
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.760
there's always going to be those those people in the room,
658
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.840
and it's it's up to people like us too. We
659
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.719
can have these these conversations which a lot of people would,
660
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.719
you know, a lot of maybe a lot of people listening,
661
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.320
you know, might think are crazy. But I do think
662
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.519
there is a responsibility in having these conversations to be
663
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.360
as specific as possible. You know, Like I said, I
664
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.119
think nine to eleven serves as the best example of
665
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.920
that people really did die, those buildings really didn't come down.
666
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.920
Some some fucked up shit happened. But but the story
667
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.639
fake as hell from from start to finish, and and
668
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:11.159
and so you know, but by but I've met people
669
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.239
who say everything about nine to eleven was fake, And
670
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.280
I was like, dude, you know.
671
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.039
The buildings aren't there anymore. But those are probably people
672
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.480
that never even went and saw the Twin Towers before,
673
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.519
so like they probably weren't even there in the first place,
674
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.079
you know, even though millions of people have seen these things.
675
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.320
So I don't know, man, But yeah, like you're saying,
676
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.079
words matter a lot, and the way that you bring
677
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.760
things up matters. And that's why earlier when we were talking,
678
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.960
I said that dude's silence are on his gun, and
679
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.559
then I changed it to suppressor because it's actually it's
680
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.760
called a suppressor. It's kind of like calling a freaking
681
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.599
AR fifteen an assault rifle. There's no such thing as
682
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.360
an assault rifle, Like this could be an assault can
683
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.840
you know, just anything that you can hurt someone with.
684
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:50.840
You walk into a gun store and say where's your
685
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.639
assault rifles? They're going to look at you like you
686
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.400
have no idea what you're fucking talking about?
687
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.639
Right, Well, there's some dipshits that think that AR stands
688
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.719
for assault rifle, right, you know? And so I mean, yeah,
689
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.679
it's words matter, and the way that we talk about
690
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.360
this stuff is very important, I think, and I would
691
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.400
agree with that, John, But it's just yeah, the the like,
692
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.639
how is it fake? What's fake about it? I think
693
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.079
those are the things that that are really important. Same
694
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.000
with the Trump shooting, whichever one you want to talk about.
695
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.239
With the Trump shootings, yeah, there was some weird shit there,
696
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:22.519
but there's consequences to those events always, right, The liberals
697
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.400
would say the consequence to him getting shot would be
698
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.719
him winning the election, because I think he won the
699
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.400
election that day. To be honest, you know, he got
700
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.239
shot in the state.
701
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.480
From the very beginning. As soon as that came up,
702
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.639
I was like, yeah, they're putting him in.
703
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.360
I would go I would go so far as to say,
704
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.400
is the consequences to those events are the reason those
705
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.679
events are crafted and executed in the first act.
706
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.760
Yeah, that's that's exactly. Yeah, even like what you mentioned
707
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.320
earlier with John Benney, I have been long in the
708
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.280
camp that she's real, because there's a lot of, you know,
709
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.920
theories floating around that she never existed. But like when
710
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.039
I say it's fake, I think that little girl really died.
711
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.280
I think this story they put out about it is
712
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.400
fake in all of like the stuff about the parents
713
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.239
and like the brother and like all that weird stuff
714
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.920
that and then he went on doctor phil and stuff
715
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.960
and like that stuff to me is fake as in
716
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.639
they've scripted it. But I think a little girl really
717
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.800
physically did die. You know, like that's a lot of
718
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.599
and there is dead body, but.
719
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.960
And and and in order to make it believable and
720
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.000
to get the desired outcome, there has to be casualties
721
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.840
because you know, otherwise it would actually be fake and
722
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.960
and and and a stage Hollywood production. So the powers
723
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.239
that shouldn't be are not above uh, having some people
724
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.719
lost in order to get the desired outcome.
725
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.480
She died, so anybody had a hand in her death.
726
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.480
Yeah, wasn't there.
727
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.639
Some things about John Vaney Ramsey where like all the
728
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.639
beauty patches that she was in, like there was no
729
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.199
one else entered into those pasts, pugeens and stuff like that.
730
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:01.880
Yeah.
731
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.599
I actually covered that in my series because it was
732
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.239
a point people kept bringing up to, like that she
733
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.880
wasn't real and those pageants actually don't exist. But the
734
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.679
all the videos and stuff of her, if you read
735
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.880
Program to Kill and you kind of look into it,
736
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.480
I think she was actually part of like this underground
737
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.119
like pageant weird kittie porn thing that was going on. Well,
738
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.559
they dress up these little girls and they do take
739
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.519
videos of them. They do like Dolly part in them
740
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.760
up and like make them look crazy, and then they
741
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.440
take pictures and videos of them. So the pageants themselves
742
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.440
might be fake quote unquote, but the videos are real,
743
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.239
the pictures are real. I think she was really her
744
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.079
parents were into like some pretty fucked up shit and John.
745
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.559
You probably know about this from reading Program to Kill.
746
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.920
But there is this whole underworld like dark pageant circle
747
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.519
that these girls are thrown into really young.
748
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.360
Yeah, it's a yeah, it's and I think I think
749
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:07.480
most people, if they think about it, those beauty pads.
750
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.679
The whole thing about beauty pageants for little girls is creepy,
751
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.880
just even on the surface, you know, I mean like
752
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.519
like it would would anyone that's ever been a parent
753
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.559
would never put their kid through something like You'd have
754
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.199
to be a special kind of person. And I'm not
755
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.599
saying that in a complimentary way. You'd have to be
756
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.320
a special type of person to put your precious child
757
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.480
on a stage to compete against other children based on
758
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.199
their beauty.
759
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:39.800
Yeah, it's pretty weird.
760
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:41.280
And I don't have a kid, and I fully agree,
761
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.280
I can see how creepy that shit is without having
762
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.119
a kid. Weird.
763
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.599
And it's also like a bunch of weird dudes. Like
764
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.599
when I was reading about it, most of the people
765
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.280
that turn up to the beauty pageants and shit, like
766
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.000
some of them are friends and family whatever, but a
767
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.519
lot of it is just like weird, creepy old older
768
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.519
dudes that like get off on watching these little girls
769
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.599
in their little bikinis and shit. And then there's that
770
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.480
story about Heather or Rourke when from Poltergeist when they
771
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.679
made her dress up in a bikini and like do
772
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.840
this stuff. And then like, I think it was that
773
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.159
same night she died and they blamed it on some
774
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.519
kind of a bowel condition. Again, a little girl really
775
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.880
died story fake. I think they were doing stuff to her.
776
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.159
I mean, like they blamed it on like a bowel
777
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:29.880
condition or.
778
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.599
Something and they said, they said, your fluent septic. But
779
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.360
they've sodomized her. I mean, it couldn't be more fucking Obviously,
780
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:36.920
there was.
781
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.480
Like a witness and every time she tries to bring
782
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.599
up the story, they tell her that she's a kook
783
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.039
and a crazy and like a shut the fuck up
784
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:44.840
and like whatever.
785
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.599
But yeah, it's a that whole beauty pageant thing seems
786
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.840
to be like a like kind of the minor league
787
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.079
farm team for the grooming aspect of things.
788
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.400
Dude, I took my sister to a freaking used to
789
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.679
do tumbling when she was a little toddler, and I
790
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.159
felt weird as ships just being there watching these toddlers
791
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.360
freaking tumbling and stuff like i'd go outside and just
792
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.960
chill be like I'm not gonna you know, it's just weird, Like.
793
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.039
You know, like my sister did that too, and they
794
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:18.679
got him in these Yeah, they're like suits basically.
795
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:21.440
Yeah, and you know they're they're flipping around and doing
796
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:22.800
shit and it's like, man, I don't want to be
797
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.320
in here for this ship. I'm just gonna leave her
798
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.320
in here and walk outside, you know, and then let
799
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:28.639
me know when you're done, and I'll go back in.
800
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.239
But yeah, man, I can't imagine being a fucking grown
801
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.239
man and being like, Wow, this girl's real talented. It's like,
802
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.719
what the fuck is your problem? It's weird.
803
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.440
A weird video of Tom Hanks. Maybe it was a joke.
804
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.400
I don't know. Oh yeah, like have you seen it?
805
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.880
I posted it on Instagram?
806
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.000
Yeah, where he's like what I mean, talk about the video.
807
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:50.599
He's like cheering on a girl and stuff.
808
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.599
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it like a late night show and.
809
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.920
It's like, I want to say, Saturday Night Library, one
810
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.800
of those like skit shows, like.
811
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:59.800
They're trying to make it funny, but at the same time,
812
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.199
he like make it nasty for me, make it and
813
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.079
he's like throwing dollar bills or something like that.
814
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.920
Yeah, certainly have no reason to respect Tom Hanks of any.
815
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.920
It's such a nice guy.
816
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:17.199
Basically actually told me something about the kid that was
817
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.079
in Forrest coump.
818
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:18.559
Oh.
819
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.440
Yeah, so this was before, like years before. So Forrest
820
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.320
Gump was always one of my favorite movies, and I
821
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.360
watched behind the Scenes DVD and Tom Hanks modeled that
822
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.199
accent off of the little kid that played Forrest Gump,
823
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.519
and it showed footage behind the takes of the movie
824
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.199
where he is just like this fucking close to him,
825
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.519
following him around in a really creepy way. It creeped
826
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.360
me out at the time. Years later, when all this
827
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.360
other shit came out, I was just going, fuck, I
828
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.239
thought right back to that. That kid has not done
829
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.239
anything since that movie, by the way, And yeah, there's
830
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:56.920
so much.
831
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:02.960
Creepy that to be interesting to see even still around exactly.
832
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.280
Yeah, he's probably like that kid from The Little Rascals,
833
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:08.800
that bug whatever.
834
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.159
Bug Hall that played off Falf in the movie. Yeah,
835
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.320
he's he goes on like conspiracy shows our size. He
836
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.800
doesn't say a lot, but you know he's talking about
837
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.719
some dark ship that he went clean for the Hills,
838
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:21.320
the kid.
839
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.400
From Forrest Gump. He Tom Hanks was trying to absorb
840
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:29.400
his fucking essence. And I mean it's so it's so
841
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.000
like gross and disturbing. It really is.
842
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.039
That kid from Forrest Gump. His name is Michael Connor Humphreys,
843
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.639
and he looks like a fucking MK ultra.
844
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:46.199
Dude, Sure your screen there, I want to see. Oh yeah,
845
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.519
is it like a newer picture.
846
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.760
Yeah, yeah, this is him.
847
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:55.039
Oh my god, he's fucked up.
848
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.320
I mean yeah, he looks Oh what is this? He's
849
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.000
in the middle military background.
850
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.760
Well, that's so I never saw that.
851
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.800
He never saw that coming. John.
852
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.719
Yeah, he's showing some movie posters. I don't know if
853
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.039
he's been in all these movies or what.
854
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.079
He definitely wasn't in Apollo thirteen.
855
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:20.719
He could have been one of the Meteors or something.
856
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.039
He seems to happen.
857
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.199
He loves Forrest Gump though, or not Forrest Gump freaking
858
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:30.000
Tom Hanks. But yeah, man, so yeah, he definitely looks
859
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:31.719
uh a little stock. It's a little weird.
860
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.800
He looks like a column Biden shooter, right, That's what
861
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:37.159
I'm saying.
862
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:38.719
He looks like just one of these people that's like
863
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.920
totally brainwashed. That's him.
864
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.639
He didn't he didn't bother to stick around the film industry.
865
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.760
Now it doesn't look like it, but he probably didn't
866
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:51.920
have community for it.
867
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.000
Oh Memphis, look at that. That's how That's probably why
868
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.000
his accent was so strong.
869
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:57.719
Yeah.
870
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:00.880
Yeah, he was sold from two thousand and five to
871
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.920
twenty twelve in Germany and Iraq and an international affairs student.
872
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.880
He calls himself a jack of all trades or some trades.
873
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.199
So my jack of some trades. Weird dude. Poor guy
874
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.360
we're sitting here making fun of him too. Probably had
875
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.320
a rough childhood, man.
876
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.400
Yeah, life is like a bugs chocolates.
877
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:24.920
Sure is.
878
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:31.440
Well, I don't know if we could steer the conversation.
879
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.880
You had one that you were going to ask John about.
880
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.760
Oh, I was so another one that came up to
881
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:39.280
me when I was kind of thinking about some of
882
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.320
these huge events that were highly publicized.
883
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:43.519
The O. J.
884
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.480
Simpson killings, to me, always had that element to it.
885
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:48.840
In fact, it is the prototype of the modern day
886
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:53.400
publicized celebrity trial. That was kind of like it was
887
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.079
the first one I can remember, but I you know,
888
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.800
I haven't been alive as long as you John, So
889
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.679
was that like unique when that happened to you? And
890
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.440
did you have triggers go off there?
891
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.079
That was?
892
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:04.440
It was?
893
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.280
That's That's an interesting one to bring up because that
894
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.400
was kind of one of the did we did we
895
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.880
talk about that whole You know, the celebrities, you know
896
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.519
when they when they play characters, you know, they're Jerry
897
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.920
Seinfeld characters is Jerry Seinfeld real person? It's a a
898
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.360
lot of times when when a when a a character
899
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:33.519
is retired, that human that was playing that character, you know,
900
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.519
say say the characters is retired, killed off or whatever.
901
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.800
You know, there's still a human being in real life
902
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.800
that now is out of a job because their character
903
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.039
is killed off. So sometimes they the industry will these
904
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.239
are actors, by the way, this is not you know,
905
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.639
I mean, they're playing a part and so they get
906
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.920
another part and they're playing something else. And a lot
907
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.800
of times they will you know, severely alter their appearance.
908
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.559
Sometimes they will slightly alter their appearance. I think one
909
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.960
of the one of the better examples of that is
910
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:16.679
the Jonathan Price, the current Pope when too many people
911
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.360
Jonathan Price is a pretty well known English actor that
912
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.360
I believe is also playing the Pope. So many people
913
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.039
caught that because they didn't do anything. Sometimes they'll change
914
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.480
the ear lobe, they'll do ear lob surgery, or they'll
915
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.920
you know, do something with the jaw line or change
916
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.559
the nose or whatever, but they didn't do anything with him.
917
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.719
Same just here Jonathan Price. So many people caught onto
918
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.599
that that they actually made a Netflix special about the
919
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.880
Pope starring Jonathan Price. It's a drama, so that people
920
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.519
it was kind of like that Capricorn one moon landing thing.
921
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.880
It's like it's like if you say, you're just talking
922
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:01.239
about the movie Capricorn one, you know, and so, but
923
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.840
back to the OJ thing, I will say this, Uh,
924
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.920
do do do a Google search, you know, for Nicole
925
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.800
Brown Simpson, and then do a Google search from Megan
926
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:20.599
Kelly and see if you if you notice that any
927
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.519
any similarities at all.
928
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:26.679
John, have you ever heard that Jim Morrison became Rush Limbaugh.
929
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.599
No, I've heard them. I haven't heard Rush the rush
930
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.320
Limbaugh thing. I've heard the Jim Morrison becomes Chevy Chase.
931
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.960
Oh, I haven't heard that one.
932
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.239
I actually have something I want to ask John.
933
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.039
About to Okay, he's for questions.
934
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.400
I watched. I don't know if it was the one Ryan,
935
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:49.960
I don't know if you were in on it or
936
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.320
if it was the first one you did with just Colby.
937
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:56.320
But I watched a couple of the episodes where you
938
00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:01.039
guys were talking about celebrities being like secretly men and
939
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.480
stuff like that, and then they Okay, I've studied a
940
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.599
lot about bone structure and physical markers, like if you
941
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.360
if someone found a skeleton that was a fucking skeleton,
942
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.000
they could tell you if it was a woman or
943
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.800
if it was a man, just based on skeleton. And
944
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.440
I've looked into that quite extensively, and a lot of
945
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.079
people and I'm with Ryan. I don't like to say community,
946
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.719
but a lot of conspiracy theorists in our group will like, Oh,
947
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.519
you're crazy. There's no way that was a man. There's
948
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:31.679
no way that was a chick.
949
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:32.320
Da da da.
950
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:40.679
But the confusion in like the inversion is super real and.
951
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:41.800
Their religion, right, Yeah.
952
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.159
And so I've looked at Nicole Brown Simpson in a
953
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.360
many videos and many photos, and she has all the
954
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:53.079
physical markers of being male at birth. She's got the
955
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.559
jawline and the bone structure of a biological male, and
956
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.679
I'll even pull up pictures of Nicole bra Simpson and
957
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.280
show them the jawline and the fingers, the kneecaps, and
958
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.480
she was tall too, and so the kids don't really
959
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.039
look like her at all. And I mean, I get
960
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.119
it in a racial kids sometimes they don't look like
961
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:18.440
the mom or whatever, but the kids clearly not at all.
962
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.920
And so I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
963
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:23.000
Like with Nicole?
964
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:29.760
Oh, I will I will go as far to say
965
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:36.159
that at this point in my lofe seeing and experiencing
966
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.480
what I have, and I actually I will. I'm not
967
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.960
going to, uh, I'm not going to go into specifics,
968
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:48.519
but you know, I spent my entire adult life in
969
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.920
the music industry, and I have worked behind the scenes
970
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.920
with some pretty major acts, and I've seen it with
971
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.320
my own eyes. I've seen how someone is one human
972
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:09.440
being is being presented as two completely different celebrities. So
973
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.440
you know, if if if I had any doubt, I've
974
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:15.960
seen it with my own eyes, so I know that
975
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:18.039
it is happening. I've actually seen it with my own
976
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.280
eyes on more than one occasion. M hmm.
977
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:25.400
But I really should pull up pictures of Nicole to
978
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.599
just kind of drive this point home. Let me see
979
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.599
if or Ryan, if you want to, that.
980
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.800
Is the common thread amongst all of the you look at.
981
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.559
You know, the people they call the elites, they're all eugenicists.
982
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.480
They're they're all into that, you know, eugenesis, the agenda
983
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.280
they're in the eugenics, that transhumanism, all of that stuff,
984
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.360
and it's it's an inversion. The topic of inversion is
985
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.719
a pillar of that belief. Up is down, right is left,
986
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:57.679
black is white?
987
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:02.039
The way is And did you say that Nicole turned into.
988
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.519
Well, I know, I just look, there's so much of
989
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:13.480
that character like recycling. I'm just calling it recycling. Or
990
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.320
we don't think twice when we see somebody like Brad
991
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.239
Pitt playing different characters in different movies, there's Brad Pitt
992
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.320
the actor, and he plays it. You know, we we don't,
993
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.559
you know, we don't really think that Brad Pitt is
994
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:35.480
Tyler L. Durden. He played Tyler Durton. So that if
995
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.800
it happens in the movies and these all, if why
996
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:41.840
was why does that only happen in the movies? Why
997
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:46.599
would that not happen in news, in sports, in any entertainment.
998
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.800
Because you're not really there anyways, you're just watching it
999
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:54.679
on a screen. And so when when they when they
1000
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:59.280
have to retire a character for whatever reason, there's still
1001
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.119
a human being that was playing that character, that is
1002
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.960
an employee that needs another job to do. And so
1003
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.280
I think that they are given other jobs. And that's
1004
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:14.079
not conspiratorial, that is not It's just part of its
1005
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.920
show business. Okay, Now they.
1006
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:16.920
Don't whole trial.
1007
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.079
The whole OJ trial was show business and the freaking
1008
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.800
race thing and Kim Kardashian's freaking dad and like all
1009
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:26.760
that stuff that's.
1010
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:30.480
Launched it launched that into the public conscious public consciousness.
1011
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.280
And so now out of the OJ trial, we now
1012
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.440
have the Kardashians who are in my opinion, those are
1013
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.920
all men, all of them.
1014
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.920
Oh John, you fucking said it, all.
1015
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.760
Of them and breaking back now not just Daddy, not
1016
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.320
not not just Bruce, all of them. Those are all
1017
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:55.400
trans and you know what because of and because of
1018
00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:03.280
the transhumanism eugenic agenda, almost like it's it's becoming normalized.
1019
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.599
It's becoming normalized. Like ten years ago when I you know,
1020
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.360
I I have a I have a friend who thinks
1021
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:17.320
that Jennifer Maniston is the most beautiful. It's a dude,
1022
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:22.280
you're a boss it dude, Like it's been going on
1023
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.039
a long time, a long time.
1024
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:30.360
I mean, well, they starts to become more abundantly evident
1025
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.639
to me, Like if you look at pictures of Jennifer
1026
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.079
Aniston right now, as she's aging, like the fucking the
1027
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.159
work is falling apart and like the bone age.
1028
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.039
Yeah, it gets it gets look at I mean, look
1029
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.719
at Nicole Kidman, obvious, it's look at Nan you know.
1030
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.119
Well, you know a lot of people didn't really bring
1031
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.719
this up and like talk about it as much as
1032
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.920
they should have. But Chloe Kardashian went from like a
1033
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.679
sexy looking like thicker chick with like her own kind
1034
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:04.079
of individuality from the other Kardashians overnight she starts like
1035
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.239
it's like they gave her a new skeleton or some ship.
1036
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.440
Like she doesn't even look like the same person and
1037
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.159
not be the same. But that's what I'm saying is
1038
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.239
like they can do whatever they want with that ship.
1039
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.480
I mean, how many different Stephen Hawkins. There's like five
1040
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.400
different Stephen Hawkins. You know, there's not a real one
1041
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:25.320
Hillary Clinton's. Have there been? How many different adeles look
1042
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.840
at like currently there's been like four or five different adels, Like.
1043
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:33.119
I don't want to believe that because I really I
1044
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.960
really would hope she just last weight.
1045
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.719
And like John wants to think that ice Cube is legit?
1046
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.360
Do you still John know after like the last year,
1047
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.800
because it's been about a year since we talked, and
1048
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:43.519
I give.
1049
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:47.559
You I'm I'm holding in. I'm holding in. I want
1050
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.039
to if that's gonna that's gonna hurt me if I
1051
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.280
if I find out that cubes in on all of this.
1052
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.079
I want to believe you know, if you don't see
1053
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:56.960
it now, I don't know if you.
1054
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.440
He doesn't know about it, but but I do. I
1055
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.559
do think that there are there there are those that
1056
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.199
have somehow, some way been able to do what they
1057
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:11.440
do in in in entertainment and for whatever reason, they're
1058
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.840
allowed to.
1059
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.639
About ice Cube in particular, did you like really like
1060
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.719
the Friday movies or something like?
1061
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.239
I mean lying if I said I Friday word for word,
1062
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:27.119
But no, I just I just I'm a I am
1063
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:31.320
a like a pro level music nerd. I have you
1064
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.519
know that my half of our bedroom is all like
1065
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.440
record bins and you know, like like I like I'm
1066
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.159
deep into into music, and you know, the the nw
1067
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:46.000
A record, Yeah, it was was just hugely influential to me.
1068
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.039
I loved that record. Now I don't like who any
1069
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:54.280
of those people became later in life, you know. I
1070
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.639
I I don't think I could even be in the
1071
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:59.119
same room with Dre without wanting to just like take
1072
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.920
a baseball bat do But but you know, but but
1073
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.320
Cube there was always he was always my favorite, you know,
1074
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:06.920
he was. He was my favorite of them. And I
1075
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:08.960
really loved what he did with his solo career, and
1076
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.679
you know, and he always seemed like one of those
1077
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.199
guys that like they just kind of left him alone
1078
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.639
and let him do it, let him do his thing. Well.
1079
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.239
Brought up eminem before too, and I have my own
1080
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.480
kind of theory about it. I know you do too.
1081
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.800
But I almost feel like when they take a celebrity
1082
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.559
or a musician and they start to do the bleaching
1083
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.760
of the hair and like the weirdness like that, that
1084
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:36.280
it's almost signaling like like the lights are on, but
1085
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:40.679
nobody's home. Like they've been fully indoctrinated, they've fully programmed.
1086
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.559
And so I don't know as much about like they
1087
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.280
switched him out as much as it's like, Okay, we
1088
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.400
fully controlled this person. Now you see it again and
1089
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.719
again with the bleached hair, like Lady Gaga, Britney Spears,
1090
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:56.599
Lindsay Lohan, Eminem they all went through this bleached hair,
1091
00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:00.480
crazy eyed, fucking weirdo phase. And it's like, I don't
1092
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.280
know if they've worked out necessarily, but like they've been,
1093
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:04.960
they're they're fucking not.
1094
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.119
I I would in my opinion, I don't think. I
1095
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.280
don't think Marshall Mathers has been swapped out. I just
1096
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:17.079
think he's been He's been drugged up and lobottomized. And
1097
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.119
you know, I mean he is he is. He is
1098
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.000
an asset.
1099
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.559
He doesn't even wrap the same as he used to.
1100
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.079
It's not the same like kind of flow. And I understand,
1101
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.880
you know, musicians can evolve and stuff, but his work
1102
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:31.880
is not the same as it used to be. Whatsoever.
1103
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.360
Real quick, I'm gonna show you guys my favorite body
1104
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.559
double conspiracy real fast. But he's still del Toro and
1105
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.440
fucking uh Brad there.
1106
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:42.280
I brought this up to Julie.
1107
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:42.960
Such a good one.
1108
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.280
Yeah, I mean, dude, people.
1109
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:49.679
People will argue they're dude. They both were in the
1110
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.880
movie Snatch. First of all, they didn't have a fucking
1111
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.519
scene together. And secondly, Eddie Murphy does that ship all
1112
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:54.880
the time.
1113
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.559
Yeah, you can fuck at Michael Myers too, right, I mean,
1114
01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.800
the dude's eighty different characters in one movie.
1115
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:05.559
Yeah, it's show business. These they're doing what they're paid
1116
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:06.000
to do.
1117
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:10.239
Right mm hmm yeah, man, Yeah, that's just my favorite
1118
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:11.519
one because I never thought about that.
1119
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.239
I always thought when Benicio started to get big in
1120
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.639
the nineties, like, god, he looks just like Brad Pitt
1121
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.280
with a little more ruggedness to him and easied enough
1122
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:22.719
to pull off.
1123
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:24.880
I just think about it.
1124
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.079
Oh, I've got a good one. So I was listening
1125
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.199
to this Cult of Conspiracy. They had a guy on
1126
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.079
there that was all into body doubles. He had some
1127
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.920
awesome theories about Jim Carrey we could get into. But
1128
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:39.280
he said something about Cedric the Entertainer being Martin Lawrence
1129
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.760
and I was like, no, they don't even look like
1130
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:43.840
at all. And then we watched a movie that week,
1131
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.199
Haunted House, that the Wayne's brothers put out. It's like
1132
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:51.840
a it mocks the horror movies and Cedric the entertainers
1133
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.920
in there. So that shit's fresh on my mind and
1134
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:56.679
I'm looking at him. I'm like, that is fucking Martin
1135
01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:59.559
Lawrence in a fat suit. The eyes of the fucking
1136
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.280
manner is the voice. And that guy said that. I laughed,
1137
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.440
and he ended up convincing me kind of like Bill
1138
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:05.960
Hicks out.
1139
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:12.800
I'm still not convinced on that one. You know, well,
1140
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.760
I will tell you why, John, I will tell you why.
1141
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:19.440
We had an argument.
1142
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.239
Lest we did have an argument because because fat bags
1143
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.400
under your eyes are hereditary, and Bill Hicks doesn't have
1144
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:31.000
the fat bags that Alex Jones quote unquote has. Even
1145
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.840
in that very first video of Alex Jones that I
1146
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:40.079
saw that you posted the fat bags hereditary?
1147
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:41.480
Why could you not?
1148
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.000
You could botox that, like fill it up to make
1149
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:46.280
it look like the fat bags.
1150
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:48.960
I mean, that's very true.
1151
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.599
The nose is different, so the teeth. The teeth also
1152
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.280
bothered me. I think they're different.
1153
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.000
The voice analysis is also very interesting.
1154
01:02:58.599 --> 01:02:59.920
Yeah, they are right.
1155
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.199
And what do you say on that one, Bill Hicks
1156
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:03.400
Alex Jones.
1157
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.039
Dude, I I think it's very plausible because Alex Jones
1158
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.679
looks a lot older than fifty years old.
1159
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:08.199
Dude.
1160
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.400
That was one key thing for me too when I
1161
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.519
first looked him up when I was interested in his work.
1162
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.519
When he first emerged, I was like, that guy's ten
1163
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.280
years older than me. He looks like he could be
1164
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:18.800
my fucking like old dad.
1165
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.559
Yeah, he looks like he's seventy.
1166
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.119
Let me let me let me post something here. This
1167
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.519
this is specific to the Bill Hicks Alex Jones thing.
1168
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:33.159
And and again I'm not I'm not going to use
1169
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:37.960
a specific name, but this is someone that we all
1170
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:43.199
are very aware of. Big, big, big, big celebrity that
1171
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.840
I worked alongside for a couple of years. I do
1172
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.360
know that this what I'm about to tell you occurs.
1173
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:56.800
This celebrity, very very very very very famous, very well known,
1174
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.519
was not uh. The brand of this person was pretty
1175
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.679
pretty squeaky clean, and this person wanted to keep it
1176
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:11.119
that way. And the industry, the powers that be, were
1177
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.119
wanting this person to move into different verticals so to speak,
1178
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:19.000
that this person was not comfortable with doing. And so
1179
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:22.480
a h there was a talk, there were some negotiations,
1180
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:30.039
and this person was given some options, and one of
1181
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:37.519
the options was two, you can continue to be an
1182
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:45.000
employee and we'll keep you employed, but not at what
1183
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:49.159
you're accustomed to. Now you know you're you're you're gonna you're, you're,
1184
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.840
your opportunities are going to significantly decrease, and you can
1185
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.519
continue and you can just do what you want and uh,
1186
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.679
you're going to sign this NDA about this conversation, You'll
1187
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.679
never you commit again. And and you could go that route.
1188
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.519
You could you could completely play ball with us and uh,
1189
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:14.400
come on board and then do what we've discussed. Or
1190
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:20.519
we can basically kill off the character, kill off your
1191
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.519
character publicly, or and and and and then we'll just
1192
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.400
you'll get nothing in royalties and we'll make tons because
1193
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.880
there'll be people buying your stuff. The fourth option was
1194
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:36.840
you can sell out to us. We'll just buy you
1195
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:43.440
out and put somebody else. You'll your character will continue on,
1196
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:46.880
but it'll be somebody else. Hey, what happens.
1197
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.639
With without asking you who this is? Is this somebody
1198
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:52.840
we would know? Like households? Oh? Absolutely?
1199
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:54.079
Are you going to.
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01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:59.719
Reveal the name? Thinking about the Taylor Swift thing?
1201
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:04.079
For well that I'm also I could go downstairs and
1202
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.840
get you a picture that I that Taylor gave me
1203
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:12.559
the day. Me, about five six other people, her father
1204
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.480
and a small a small team of us stuffed CDs
1205
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.760
into padded envelopes to send him send radio for her
1206
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.639
very first single. Tim McGraw, So I've actually seen the
1207
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.119
Taylor Swift story from the get.
1208
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.559
Go and prote prototype.
1209
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.480
Yeah yeah, and and and I and I and I can,
1210
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.480
I can. I can say with utmost certainty that the
1211
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.639
person that's the photo that I have that signed and
1212
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.000
you can see uh And and I would love you
1213
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:50.239
talk jaw lines and facial structures. What what is being
1214
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:51.679
presented publicly now?
1215
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:55.920
It's the guy that played Napoleon Dynamite, not even he's
1216
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:56.639
the current.
1217
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:04.159
What I get behind that? Yeah? I would well, I.
1218
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.480
Actually I told Colby when I heard you say that,
1219
01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.639
and then I want you to finish your story actually
1220
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.960
because I'm really interested in how that turned out. But
1221
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.920
I worked for a doctor and she is she's a
1222
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.159
general surgeon, but she's also a prostadantist. And she said
1223
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:28.440
Taylor Swift has had the same Veneers since she first
1224
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:34.320
came onto the scene until now venss and she's like
1225
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.639
her gun lines are starting to receive because she needs
1226
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:42.239
new Veneers and so that like, how far do you
1227
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.440
think they'd take it? Like if they switched out the
1228
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.039
real tailor, would they put the same teeth on them,
1229
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.000
or like, how far do you think it goes?
1230
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:55.360
I think that there are probably more than one stage
1231
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.239
and TV tailors at this point. I think they probably have,
1232
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.639
you know, a couple again. You know, I think in
1233
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.519
one of our previous conversations Colby that I mean, I mean,
1234
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:10.960
I mean they it was in the news when his
1235
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:14.360
body double died, you know, I mean that's what they said,
1236
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.720
that that guy appeared as Eminem on stage and at
1237
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:21.439
wards ceremonies and stuff. So we we know that that happens,
1238
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.239
and why wouldn't it. It's show business, you know.
1239
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:26.960
Well, do you think the real Taylor pops up every
1240
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.159
now and again, like for photos or something, or.
1241
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:34.399
If you are, if you're asking my personal opinion on
1242
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.680
Taylor Swift in particular, based upon my experience, I would
1243
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.680
say that it is not outside the rem of possibility
1244
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.279
that the real Taylor Swift got bought out and is
1245
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.840
probably chilling on some remote beach somewhere with with Tom
1246
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:58.560
Petty and David Bowie and Carnell is really dead though, right,
1247
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.359
oh gosh, unfourly I think I think Cornell is, yeah,
1248
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:02.920
because he.
1249
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.439
Was getting smart about some ship. But anyways, back to
1250
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:07.640
your story about.
1251
01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:13.600
I mean, yeah, so this person decided to play ball,
1252
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:19.520
and now this person is not squeaky clean anymore and
1253
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:23.760
or is doing things that that they would not have
1254
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:31.680
wanted to do without being coerced and and songs uh
1255
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.720
I uh yeah yeah. But but these are these are business.
1256
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.720
I mean again, this type of stuff happens in business
1257
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.159
every single day. I mean, you know, I mean we
1258
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.199
have all worked for people, and you know I have,
1259
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.039
I have had you know, people that I've worked for,
1260
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.119
you know, call me into the office and go, John,
1261
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:52.000
we we want you to do this, or you know,
1262
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:54.720
we're we're gonna, we're gonna reassign you and put you here,
1263
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.479
and you know, and and you either go, yeah, I'll
1264
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.479
do it, or you go no, I quit. And in
1265
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:07.880
the case of these celebrity scenarios, you can't just quit
1266
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:13.479
because there's there's non disclosure agreements and confidentiality scenarios and
1267
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:19.920
and so they they will, you know, if if you've
1268
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:24.439
reached in order to reach a certain level of celebrity,
1269
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:26.800
those conversations have already taken place.
1270
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.039
So and they're also saying that they don't necessarily ever
1271
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.119
really have to kill them, like actually take the person out.
1272
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.000
But do you think sometimes they might?
1273
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:37.479
I think sometimes they do, but I but I think
1274
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:40.239
it's a choice. You know, It's like Colby if you've
1275
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:43.039
been a good employee but you're honestly just burnt out
1276
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:45.359
or your heart's just not in it anymore, and you
1277
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.399
come to me and you go, man, I don't think
1278
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:51.880
I can do this anymore. Based upon your value and
1279
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:53.640
what we got going on and how much money is
1280
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:55.840
at stake, I might let you walk.
1281
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.399
You know, if this story that they were telling in
1282
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.880
a Star was born, like the first one I think
1283
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:05.239
had Judy Garland in it, but this the remake of it,
1284
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.560
had Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.
1285
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.159
I've never well, I think the first one had had
1286
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:13.319
Barbara streisand oh did it?
1287
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.520
No? That was the second one? It was actually has.
1288
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.840
There has that been? Movie has been made three times?
1289
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.039
Yeah, remakes.
1290
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:24.439
Chris Christopher seen in Barbara streissand was the remake and
1291
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:25.479
then the second game make.
1292
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.600
I didn't realize that that the streyssand Christofferson one was
1293
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:29.039
a remake.
1294
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.520
I thought that was me Garland played the original role.
1295
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.680
I was gonna say, I think that's significant because of
1296
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.359
what they did to her like throughout her entire life,
1297
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.159
that they would choose her for that movie and then
1298
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.680
later on choose Lady Gaga because I mean, there's so
1299
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:44.840
many theories about her.
1300
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.399
I could find nothing ruins a movie like Lady Gaga
1301
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.760
does nothing ruins a movie. Worse, she's the worst.
1302
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:55.760
But I mean that Joe gibber is supposedly good.
1303
01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:58.000
No, I'm not a fan of him either.
1304
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:04.079
There we go. I mean that one's like actually low
1305
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:09.359
hanging trans inversion fruit because fucking family guy even had
1306
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.840
a joke about it. So that one, to me is
1307
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.439
almost like they just put it in their face.
1308
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.119
They did an interview and they asked, she I want
1309
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:21.199
so bad, so what if I am like pretty much
1310
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.439
saying freaking an answer, yeah, yeah.
1311
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.439
Well yeah, that's also like the trans agenda, right, Like
1312
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.439
that's something that even if she was like a chick,
1313
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.159
she would say that because like I was seeing this
1314
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.159
thing with Ariana Grande. She was talking about how the
1315
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.560
new Wicked movie is like fully trans like even the
1316
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:39.039
chickens in the movie or trans and all this weird shit,
1317
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:40.800
so strange, but.
1318
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:45.079
Right from the horse's mouth, right right, like talk about
1319
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.479
a square draw line man that oh on Disney.
1320
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.479
She she looked like a little boy when she was
1321
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:56.319
on Disney shows. John, you were saying something earlier before,
1322
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.039
before we moved too far away from it. You know,
1323
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.760
you were talking about you know, you have these options
1324
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.359
when you're a celebrity and you're wanting to like kind
1325
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.520
of phase out or whatever. Have any of you guys
1326
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.640
seen the Substance movie yet? The movie called The Substance.
1327
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:11.439
It's a great I recommend it to you, guys. Man.
1328
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:17.039
Demi Moore is like an old another one. Yeah, well, yeah,
1329
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:21.079
I know she's got that's another one. But Demi Moore
1330
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:23.399
is like aging out of Hollywood, and it looks like
1331
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.279
it takes place in like the eighties or something. They're
1332
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:28.079
doing a lot of those like live exercise shows where
1333
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.479
you know, the girls are wearing bright colors and they're
1334
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.479
doing you know, jazz or size. And she wants to
1335
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:37.439
like she's basically getting fired from her gig, from this
1336
01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:40.800
piece of ship producer, and she wants to make herself young,
1337
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:42.920
and she gets this thing called the Substance that can
1338
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.560
make her young. And it's a fucking great movie. The
1339
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.640
end of it turns into like a guar concert. It
1340
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.039
gets kind of wild, but it's.
1341
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:52.439
Sponsored by a drenochrome.
1342
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.359
I mean it, it's not a drenochrome.
1343
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.920
It's it's that would be a nice gar you know
1344
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:01.359
Kaien where you got the Blood?
1345
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.199
Well no, yeah, the end of it is just like
1346
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:06.439
I said you if you watch it, man, you'll understand
1347
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:08.800
what I'm talking about. It it looks like a Gore concert.
1348
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.199
But yeah, it's not in adrenochrome thing, but it's similar.
1349
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.439
And I don't want to give any away, but I
1350
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.680
recommend it to all you guys because it's a it's
1351
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:18.439
a phenomenal movie, even if you got to pay like
1352
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:20.159
three bucks or whatever to rent it or I mean
1353
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:22.359
there's free streaming sites all over the place, but yeah,
1354
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:23.560
watch that movie asap.
1355
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.600
So is it like the concept is swapping out like
1356
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.880
the old Blood for the new Blood, And like, I.
1357
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.399
Mean, I don't want to get into it at all
1358
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.479
because when you see what happens, it's not it's not
1359
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:37.439
at all. Like if I even like told you what
1360
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.600
it was, it would like be like oh okay. But
1361
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:42.960
I mean it's it's worth a watch for sure. And
1362
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:44.439
if you guys want to watch it for free, I
1363
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.880
got the free hookup on movie sites it's a you know,
1364
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:52.159
bootleg side. They're all over the place, so let me know.
1365
01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:54.920
But yeah, it's where it's worth the watch. No, for sure,
1366
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.159
the Substance nice.
1367
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:00.720
Appreciate the tip absolutely.
1368
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.079
Yeah, if you're into any of this kind of stuff,
1369
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.600
like the body doubles, the you know, even even a
1370
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:08.239
drain and chrome, even though it's not a drain of chrome,
1371
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.439
it's it's it's a movie for a lot of people
1372
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:11.960
in this world.
1373
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.479
I think that's kind of like I obviously haven't seen it,
1374
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.399
but like when I watched Doctor Sleep for the first time,
1375
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:22.920
I was like, oh my god, this is like conspiracy
1376
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.000
theorist fucking dream movie right here. It had so much shit.
1377
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:27.079
Did you watch it? John?
1378
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.560
No. I actually kind of have a no no Hollywood policy.
1379
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.199
I got I got burned by Hollywood early in life,
1380
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:36.039
and I was like, I'm never giving them another minute.
1381
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:38.960
Yeah you movies or anything.
1382
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:42.680
I will if if I'm researching something, and and and
1383
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.880
it's you know, I have to know what I'm talking about.
1384
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.279
I will, but no for.
1385
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:49.680
Not for you, not for your leisure.
1386
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.439
No, So you're not going to watch the Substance, then
1387
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:55.720
that's the tip.
1388
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:01.159
I'm first of all, Ryan, I was being light. I
1389
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:06.479
appreciate that exactly. Secondly, I actually I probably will since
1390
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:08.720
you you you've piqued my interest with the subject matter,
1391
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.319
and that might be a nice reference to using a
1392
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:12.399
later conversation, so.
1393
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.680
Research research purposes there you go ask you what do
1394
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.159
you think? Because obviously you were burned by Hollywood. But
1395
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.239
one of my favorite things as well as Julia and
1396
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.279
Ray and I'm sure you have intense interest in this.
1397
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.840
It's the topic of Stanley Kubrick. And I mean, what,
1398
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:32.840
what's your whole take on all of that stuff?
1399
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:32.960
Like?
1400
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:35.760
Who was he? What was he into? Was he intelligence?
1401
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:37.039
Was he a fucking asset?
1402
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.119
Wouldn't it have been awesome to talk to Stanley Kubrick
1403
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.600
about Laurel Canyon? Oh?
1404
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:46.760
I bet anything?
1405
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:51.439
Man, You guys, writer Lee just did a movie a
1406
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.439
Clockwork Shining is what it's called. You have to rent
1407
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:57.960
it on Amazon Prime documentary. Yeah, it's a documentary about
1408
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.960
Kubrick making the Shining and the whole theory about it
1409
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.920
being an mk Ultra project. But it's interesting because he
1410
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.319
ties in Laurel Canyon, the book Catcher in the Rye
1411
01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:09.920
and mk ltr assassins and stuff like that. But it's
1412
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:12.319
really it brought some stuff to the forefront. I hadn't
1413
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:12.640
heard of it.
1414
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.479
Well, I know Ryan's into it because I this is
1415
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:18.439
forever ago. Ryan, you probably won't even remember. But I
1416
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.479
went on his show and I talked about like all
1417
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.359
the weird stuff in the Shining, and I think we
1418
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:26.640
both kind of had a theory on it. But Kubrick
1419
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.399
is like a fucking Pandora's Box.
1420
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.279
My favorite movie of his is Freaking Eyes Wide Shut,
1421
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.000
and a lot of people hate that movie, but I
1422
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.760
can watch that movie over and over again, man, Like
1423
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.520
I usually put it on at night when I'm tired
1424
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.119
because it's kind of slow. But oh what a good movie.
1425
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.600
Mm hmm everything in there?
1426
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.319
Is that really a favorite of yours? Right? Yeah?
1427
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.159
One hundred percent out of all his movies, Like, if
1428
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.720
I was ranking them, it'd be that I like a
1429
01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:55.800
clockwork Orange lot shining.
1430
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:57.560
Clockwork Orange is my number one.
1431
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.479
It's great too.
1432
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.479
The reason reason I asked is, I, uh, you know,
1433
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.680
I I having worked in the music industry my whole
1434
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.640
life and being a collector of pop culture, I have
1435
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.520
hundreds of thousands of pieces of pop culture history and
1436
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.159
I'm recently going through just thousands and thousands of posters
1437
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.279
that I have And I just found a nick I
1438
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.680
used to work. I used to work for the management
1439
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.359
company that manages Keith Urban, and I was on Keith
1440
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.880
Urban's team for for for years doing some web stuff.
1441
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:32.399
And uh so so I've actually and he he and
1442
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:38.399
Nicole are residents, uh here in Nashville, and so they're
1443
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:43.720
they're spotted about town on a regular basis. And yeah, yeah,
1444
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:47.560
so so I, uh, I was pulling out some Nicole
1445
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.039
Kidman posters to have mounted, and and and and I.
1446
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.279
I've got a buddy that has has a record shop
1447
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:54.840
and he sells a lot of this this stuff for me.
1448
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.680
And yeah, but but I found an eyes wide a
1449
01:18:57.720 --> 01:18:59.880
couple of eyes wide shut posters. If you if you're
1450
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:01.199
in man, I'll send you one.
1451
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:04.560
Oh I would love one. Yeah what I mean, what
1452
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:05.239
are you charging?
1453
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:10.039
Dude, I'll send it to you, Okay, gift Ryan, We've
1454
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:10.680
already got.
1455
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:15.319
In the back.
1456
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.920
Oh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, man, I'll send my address
1457
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:19.560
on the chat here.
1458
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:20.079
Yeah.
1459
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:22.439
Absolutely, I don't want to put it out there forever.
1460
01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:28.359
John this is and now I can docs Ryan and
1461
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:29.920
fucking stuck his house.
1462
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:33.079
And the well, dude, what so you know what's crazy, man,
1463
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.159
I did an episode on the cartel and someone sent
1464
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.239
me my address. Someone sent me my address.
1465
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:40.680
Are you serious?
1466
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:42.920
Yeah? And then like a couple of weeks after that,
1467
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.199
someone was following me around at work and ship and
1468
01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:46.239
I called the police and everything.
1469
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:48.119
Dude, it was, Fuck, you're not one of those guys
1470
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:49.880
when you say something like that. I think you're being
1471
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.279
paranoid because you're like a reasonable guy. Yeah.
1472
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.000
Yeah, And I carry a gun on me and stuff,
1473
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:56.439
and like this dude has following me. I'm like, I'm
1474
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.199
not trying to fucking use this thing. But yeah, it
1475
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:01.439
was that night, and it was it was when we
1476
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:04.399
were wearing masks and this dude was wearing a mask,
1477
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.880
he had a hoodie on. Uh, followed me out of
1478
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:08.600
the store. I got in my truck. He looked at
1479
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.720
my license plate and then got in his car, which
1480
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.800
was behind mine. And it was dark out still. You know,
1481
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:16.079
I was working at Pepsi, so we're servicing stores like
1482
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:16.520
five in the.
1483
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:18.319
So this was this was a while ago. That makes
1484
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:18.960
me feel better.
1485
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.920
Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, And and yeah, dude,
1486
01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:24.880
like this guy he's followed me out of the out
1487
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:26.600
of the parking lot with his lights off, his head
1488
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.800
lights off, and he's just like staying behind me. I
1489
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.560
turned around and I got out, and I carried my
1490
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:33.399
gun in a fanny pack and I held the fanny
1491
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.279
pack up. He probably just thought I was showing in
1492
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:37.760
my fanny pack, and I pointed out. I was like, dude,
1493
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:41.039
get the fuck away from me, man, And yeah I was.
1494
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:43.359
It was very fucking scary. And I usually don't get
1495
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:46.239
rattled by ship, but I even that morning, I woke
1496
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:47.640
up and I felt like I don't want to leave
1497
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.359
my house today, like just for whatever reason, I felt
1498
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:53.399
real weird and uh, and yeah that ended up happening. Manut,
1499
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:56.840
it was pretty fucking scary. So I don't talk about
1500
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:03.760
the cartel anymore. And you guys, dangerous topic. Sorry, I
1501
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:05.800
guess I can't hit entry here. It's just gonna send
1502
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:06.720
you one line at a time.
1503
01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:13.039
But yeah, John, i'd love to hear any overscoping like
1504
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.000
stuff about Kubrick you have. If if that's something you
1505
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.399
ever looked into the moon landing and all that shit.
1506
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:22.319
Well, I mean I think he And again I wasn't kidding.
1507
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:26.520
I bet you he would have had some incredible insight
1508
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:29.960
into especially the you know the base that was there
1509
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.319
in Laurel Canyon that had you know, that had the
1510
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:37.279
Lookout Mountain Studios, Yes State, which doesn't Jared Ledo own
1511
01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:37.880
that building.
1512
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:39.960
He does now he has a cult up there. And
1513
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.159
he dresses like Jesus. He's like you with a beard
1514
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.039
and a white robe.
1515
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:45.880
Dude, Jared let is a weird guy.
1516
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:46.159
Man.
1517
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:51.560
I talk about good movies too, freaking what's the what's
1518
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.880
the drug? When he's in I can't believe it.
1519
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.039
Quen for a Dream one of my top five movies.
1520
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:58.119
Requeen for a Dream is great. It's disturbing as all hell,
1521
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:00.159
but really good movie.
1522
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.680
I think I think at that time there there weren't
1523
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:09.399
as many creatives that had the creativity and the technical
1524
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:14.359
ability that and and that Kubrick had. You know, it's
1525
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.760
now just because of the way communication is. You know,
1526
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:20.800
there's there's kids in garages and you know down the
1527
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.119
street that can that can do amazing things. But I
1528
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:28.960
think Kubrick was was tapped from an early age and
1529
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.760
and and was was an asset and was utilized and
1530
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.760
created content and whether or not he knew what that
1531
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:42.680
content was gonna be used for, how it was going
1532
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.600
to be used. I think it's probably open for debate,
1533
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.479
but I think he was. He was probably probably tapped
1534
01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:51.520
at an early age, maybe even born into it. And
1535
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:56.439
and that's just what he did. And and I think
1536
01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:03.119
that these people that if you had, if you have
1537
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:08.680
any remnants of a soul at all, and you have
1538
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.960
a conscience, or just if you can feel, if you
1539
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:19.000
know that you are contributing to something bad and nefarious,
1540
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.880
I think these these these people have to they have
1541
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:28.880
to express that somehow. I think it maybe karmically helps
1542
01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:32.279
clear their conscience or you know. And so you've got
1543
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:36.720
you know, Kubrick. You know, clearly, for whatever reason, left
1544
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:40.399
a lot of clues and a lot of you know,
1545
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:45.159
Easter eggs and things and and and clearly it wasn't
1546
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.720
just because he was a creative individual. There was meaning behind.
1547
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:54.319
I mean, look at you know, yeah, you've got the whole.
1548
01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:58.199
You know Eric Schmidt who wrote nineteen eighty four under
1549
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:01.800
the pen name orwell, you know, I mean it's you know,
1550
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.199
there there is no George orwell that's just a that's
1551
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.439
just a pen name. It's just a stage name.
1552
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.560
He looks a lot like Henry Lee Lucas. Have you
1553
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.680
ever seen a picture of George Orwell and Henry Lee
1554
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:13.800
Lucas side by side?
1555
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:16.880
No, but not, you think I mean, I could see
1556
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:18.239
very similar.
1557
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:21.199
Yeah, I mean another one that I thought was interesting
1558
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.439
is Terence McKenna and the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski. Their voice,
1559
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.159
their voices are identical, and if you like look at
1560
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.359
them side by side, they look different. But it doesn't
1561
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.800
seem like anything that could be impossible to pull off.
1562
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:37.680
Well, I mean, you know again, you're talking about characters.
1563
01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:41.520
You know, the Unibomber was a character. Yeah, it was
1564
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:44.079
a you know, well, I know you.
1565
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:47.199
You obviously can't be one hundred percent on this, so
1566
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:51.159
I just want your opinion. But there are so many
1567
01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:55.720
different trains of thought on if Kubrick was involved to
1568
01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:59.159
a certain degree himself in some of this weirdness, like
1569
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.520
the petost and like some people think he's like a
1570
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:06.000
good guy that wasn't. But I mean some of the clues,
1571
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:09.840
as you were saying, in the movies, especially Ice Wide Shut,
1572
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:12.520
allude to him knowing about it. Whether or not he
1573
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.840
took part in it, that's up for debate. But it's sex.
1574
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.960
You didn't see Doctor Sleep because it's just the continuation
1575
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.319
of the shining, and in my opinion, that's all the
1576
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.199
movie was about was pedophilia.
1577
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:28.640
It's a drenochrome. I mean, they take this, these young
1578
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:32.640
kids with this gift, the shining, and they drain them.
1579
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:33.199
Mm hmm.
1580
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:34.640
I mean it's nice.
1581
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:38.079
It's stab them and shit like suck this stuff out
1582
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.560
of the stab holes like it's fucked up.
1583
01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:46.399
You know, the whole the whole topic of blood. That's
1584
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.840
you know, i'd said earlier in the earlier conversation, the
1585
01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:52.279
the you call him the elite or whatever name you
1586
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.079
want to give that layer of the powers that shouldn't
1587
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:58.640
be I said. A common thread running through them is
1588
01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:02.840
as they're all, you know, they all all love transhumanism, eugenics,
1589
01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:06.279
stuff like. That's that's that's their their religion. And blood
1590
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:08.359
seems to be another common thread.
1591
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:09.359
Blood and children.
1592
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.359
Well, where do you get blood from? I mean, like
1593
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:17.880
like anything, if if if you if you want if
1594
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.239
you want lettuce, you want fresh lettuce, you don't want
1595
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:22.680
old lettuce. You know, if you want tomatoes, you want
1596
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.920
fresh tomatoes, you don't want old tomatoes. And so the
1597
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.920
blood thing that the child tie in just makes perfect
1598
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:35.159
sense because the best freshest blood would again using fruit
1599
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:40.039
or meat or any other analogy you want, young, fresh,
1600
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.279
whatever it is. And so, but but blood seems to
1601
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.880
be a common thread amongst them. They, you know, I mean,
1602
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:50.119
Hollywood's been pretty open. I mean, you've got celebrities that
1603
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.199
have bathed in it. They use it for cut cosmetically.
1604
01:26:53.319 --> 01:27:00.720
I mean, I see commercials on TV, uh for know serum,
1605
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.920
you know, face serum is Look look at the definition
1606
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.840
of serum. It's blood, you know. So it's just a kinder,
1607
01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:11.760
more you know, bougie way of saying blood, you know.
1608
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.199
And so the celebrities have been using blood cosmetically. And
1609
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:21.840
I can tell you, I can tell you with absolute
1610
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:26.720
certainty in my own life. You know, I mentioned my
1611
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:31.920
wife being handicapped. My wife and our youngest son happened
1612
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.840
to be the same blood type, which would make sense
1613
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:38.840
mother and son being the same blood type. When my
1614
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:45.880
son was seventeen, they took blood from my son, his young,
1615
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:50.079
vibrant blood, and injected it in key places into my
1616
01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:54.560
wife and helped hurt some of her joints, move and everything.
1617
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:56.840
So I mean, and they they do, I mean these
1618
01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:00.279
that that's PRP, you know, plasma replacement there that they
1619
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.479
do this. I mean, people do it for cosmetic reasons
1620
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.600
all the time. My wife did it for functionality reasons.
1621
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:10.800
But I mean, young blood introduced into an older body
1622
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.680
does have positive effects. You know, I've I've literally seen
1623
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.720
it with my own son. And and then please don't
1624
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:23.560
think that we belong to some weird blood called by professionals.
1625
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:29.600
His name was Larry. You know, this was done by professionals.
1626
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.920
But but but I mean, I I've seen it with
1627
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.079
my own eyes that young blood introduced into an older
1628
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:39.600
body has positive side effects. And you know, in my
1629
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:42.119
wife's case, it was it was functional, and it was
1630
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:44.159
it was from her son, and there was no there
1631
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.600
was no nefarious stuff going on there. And again it
1632
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:50.399
was done by professionals. But there is a huge amount
1633
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:54.079
of truth. And and I'm not saying that I agree
1634
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.479
with it, but I can certainly understand if if if
1635
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:02.560
it was somebody's desire to live younger, look younger, be stronger,
1636
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:09.560
strive for immortality. Maybe yeah, what that that makes perfect sense.
1637
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:13.199
And and Kubrick, because of where he was positioned and
1638
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.800
how he was positioned, I have no doubt he probably
1639
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:22.920
saw some horrific things and and there are things and
1640
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:25.600
and and you know, think about what what we all
1641
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.000
consider to be normal. I mean, this is normal sitting
1642
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.600
in our rooms talking on a computer to each other,
1643
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:34.000
This is normal conversation. But in in in a whole
1644
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.000
other world, you know, drinking the blood of young children
1645
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:41.319
is considered normal, you know. And so it could it
1646
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.920
be that, you know, he was just he was just
1647
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:47.920
trying to get release some of that horror and guilt
1648
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:50.840
and shame that that he was feeling. And he was
1649
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.239
clearly good batter. Otherwise, he was a creative guy, you know,
1650
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:57.079
and and and he maybe that was just his way
1651
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:01.399
of of of getting it out, you know, And like
1652
01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:03.720
it was like it was schmidze of you know, he
1653
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.920
created the Orwell pen name, and he you know, look
1654
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.119
at how much of nineteen eighty four is you know,
1655
01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:14.119
you know that that was fiction at one point. Now
1656
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.800
it's not like there's a lot of nineteen eighty four
1657
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:18.079
that's real.
1658
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.920
Now, you know. Yeah. I heard in the in the UK,
1659
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:24.720
specifically like Scotland, it's illegal to pray in your head now,
1660
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.399
Like you can't say a prayer, like a mental prayer,
1661
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:31.880
you can't do that, like you know, obviously they wouldn't know. Well,
1662
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:33.439
like if you're sitting there and you're like bowing your
1663
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:36.680
head and closing your eyes then and they saw you
1664
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.319
doing that, you could get arrested for it, which is
1665
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.079
I mean, that's that's pretty orwell in right there. But
1666
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.279
you were talking about Johnny, you were talking about transhumanism.
1667
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.560
Are you familiar with cosmism? We might have talked about
1668
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:49.239
it in the past a little bit when we spoke
1669
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:54.840
last time. Familiar with what was Russian cosmism. No, it's
1670
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:57.960
kind of like transhumanism. It's just like the way that
1671
01:30:58.079 --> 01:30:59.920
I mean, I've done a couple episodes on it because
1672
01:30:59.920 --> 01:31:01.800
I found it fascinating. It has to do with like
1673
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:05.199
bringing the dead back to life. There's a lot of
1674
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.279
transhuman you know, components to it, but it's basically a
1675
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.800
conservative version of transhumanism, where transhumanism is more like liberal
1676
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.359
they would say. But yeah, cosmism like this, there's this
1677
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:20.279
kid he was talking about Rogan and Alex Jones and
1678
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:23.920
all this stuff and talking about how they're cosmists. And
1679
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:25.720
that's not a term that gets used a lot because
1680
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.560
transhumanism is so trendy and people talk about that a lot.
1681
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:30.920
With Elon Musk and all that, but it seems like
1682
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:31.800
they would maybe.
1683
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.199
Is it cosmic like cosmic cos.
1684
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:43.239
Yeah, let me make sure on the spelling cos im
1685
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:47.560
Russian cause Russian. Yeah, okay, here this is what it is.
1686
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:55.039
I'll share my screen real quick. Wikipedia is asking for money, yeah,
1687
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:58.399
right here, Russian cosmism cosmism.
1688
01:31:58.399 --> 01:31:59.920
Oh yeah, I'm definitelynn look at that.
1689
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.520
Yeah, it's a fascinating topic, man, And there's a lot
1690
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.439
there's a lot of like related topics you can get
1691
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:09.560
into too, but yeah, it's a it's a weird thing
1692
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:12.239
and there's a lot of uh, you know, new age
1693
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:17.119
components to it. But it's uh yeah, bringing people back
1694
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:21.319
from the dead using AI and and Amazon and big
1695
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:25.800
companies like that to create like a brain net type situation.
1696
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.680
And yeah, it's it's a dark topic, but it's very interesting. Man.
1697
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:33.439
The neuralink is described in such a way like a
1698
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:34.439
brain web.
1699
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:37.079
Right exactly. So yeah, it has a lot to do
1700
01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:38.680
with that. And I kind of feel like, after you
1701
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:40.640
look into cosmism a little bit, it kind of seems
1702
01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.840
like the transhumanism talks almost a distraction.
1703
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:46.680
Yeah, like look over here, that's that's because that makes
1704
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:50.199
Elon Musk couldn't be in a more fucking public place.
1705
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:51.840
And if you would have told me two years ago
1706
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:56.520
that he would be actually on the presidential administration, Fuck,
1707
01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.560
why not? I guess Thank god.
1708
01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.760
He comes from normal parents.
1709
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:04.159
Oh yeah, yeah, his whole story is one hundred percent true.
1710
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:07.479
I was exactly, Yeah, he's him and Zuckerberg.
1711
01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:10.760
Dude, I felt so stupid one time watching a documentary
1712
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:13.479
and I felt that, like, Elon Musk was so brilliant
1713
01:33:13.479 --> 01:33:16.399
when I watched this, because in this he says that
1714
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.079
he lost his fear of the dark when he was
1715
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:22.239
two years old because he understood that all that a
1716
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.920
dark molecule is versus a light molecule is it's just
1717
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.720
the same molecule without an electron in it. And he
1718
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:31.439
understood that at two years old, he said. And I'm thinking, wow,
1719
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.600
that's fucking brilliant for a two year old.
1720
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.399
It sounds like Terrence Howard going on Joe Rogan and
1721
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:39.239
saying that his mom used to put light on her
1722
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:41.560
stomach and that made him that was proof that his
1723
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:43.359
son and him remembered their birds.
1724
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:46.720
I was like, what, Yeah, I don't remember anything before
1725
01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:47.760
I was like four or five.
1726
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:49.399
That's pretty good.
1727
01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:52.920
They have They have stories like that about Nikola Tesla too.
1728
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:55.960
He was born in a lightning storm and it's fucking
1729
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:59.239
lightning bolt went in her pussy and fucking zapped.
1730
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.920
Him in the h that's like that his superpowers.
1731
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.079
Yeah, they have stories like that about Nikola Tesla, anybody
1732
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.359
who ends up doing something like that. And again, people
1733
01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:12.399
have different theories on Nikola Tesla, who he was, you
1734
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.119
know whatever, but he does have an interesting story.
1735
01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:20.760
Does have an interesting story, and it's interesting because what
1736
01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:26.520
the like Musk and and forget the Tesla car thing.
1737
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:32.720
Musk is kind of the modern day version of what Tesla.
1738
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:36.880
It's it's it's it's almost like character. They're they're recycling
1739
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:37.479
the character.
1740
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:40.159
Well, they did it with Howard Hughes. Between the two
1741
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:43.800
of them, you had Tesla, Howard Hughes, Elon Musk, and
1742
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:46.319
then you throw the whole iron Man mythology into all
1743
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:49.119
of it, which they're taking quite literally these days. I
1744
01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.399
think Elon Musk had a cameo in the second Iron
1745
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:52.600
Man movie.
1746
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:52.680
Yeah.
1747
01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:55.920
Yeah, like Howard Hughes and Tesla, if you mix them together,
1748
01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:57.039
you get Elon Musk.
1749
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:01.720
So again, these are the these are characters. These are
1750
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.079
characters that are created, and they're put into the public lexicon,
1751
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:09.359
and we absorb them and they become you know, they
1752
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:10.479
they become.
1753
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:14.000
Real and well, you know, it's exactly how you're saying,
1754
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:19.159
because the Nikola Tesla character had all this like they
1755
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:22.560
like I said, he was born in a lightning storm,
1756
01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.239
and he did all this stuff and ed da da da.
1757
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.760
But then at the end of his life he's like broke.
1758
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:29.439
Nobody cares about him.
1759
01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:31.920
He's like his girlfriend is a pigeon.
1760
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:35.920
Yeah, his girlfriend's obviously a pigeon. He dies in a
1761
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.720
hotel room somewhere, and like it's they just kind of
1762
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:43.760
threw him away after they were you know, it's crazy
1763
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.319
because you're so right about that, Like they didn't care,
1764
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:48.479
but they just kind of threw him away after they
1765
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:49.560
were done with whatever.
1766
01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:56.600
Yep, that's what That's what happens when they your your
1767
01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:58.039
usefulness runs out.
1768
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:03.199
And you know, because pennyless in a hotel room.
1769
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:05.920
Well, I think Howard Hughes like became a Mormon in
1770
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.720
Las Vegas and like ended up leaving his family portune
1771
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:12.039
to them. It's like a similar thing.
1772
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.399
Doesn't Trump have a weird thing about Nikola Tesla or
1773
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:16.199
somebody like that.
1774
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:21.079
Yeah, uncle, yeah, he supposedly through the hand of the FBI,
1775
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:24.840
he ended up getting all of those patents. I don't
1776
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:26.960
know how much of that is mythology and how much
1777
01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.800
that is real, because the whole Trump time travel thing
1778
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:32.079
is fun to look into.
1779
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.119
But oh, that's a fun theory. Whether it's real or not,
1780
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:39.399
it's fun. Not to derail. But I dropped a link
1781
01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.319
in here for you guys. You guys can check that out.
1782
01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:45.119
He's got more. Uh. This kid talks about a lot
1783
01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:47.000
of interesting stuff in this video, and a lot of
1784
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.760
it is the Russian cosmism towards the end and whatnot.
1785
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:54.439
But yeah, dude, that whole website reeldocumentaries dot com. It's
1786
01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:57.399
like uncensored YouTube. There's not as many videos on there,
1787
01:36:57.439 --> 01:36:59.960
but if you want to go down some conspiracy rabbit holes,
1788
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:04.239
realdocumentaries dot com is an incredible place to watch some stuff.
1789
01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:06.760
I was on that one a while back. I haven't
1790
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.000
been there in ages. I'm glad you reminded me about that.
1791
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:09.319
I didn't.
1792
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:11.159
It's such a good site. But I recommend you guys
1793
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:13.520
all saved that link and if you're curious or bored
1794
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:15.399
one time and you just want to look into that video.
1795
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:17.920
It's only like an hour and a half. I think
1796
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:19.680
it might be longer than that, No, two hours and
1797
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:23.279
eleven minutes, but it's worth every minute of watching that man,
1798
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.079
very very good Ryan.
1799
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:27.560
This time, I'm also being sincere. Thanks for the tip.
1800
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:31.039
Absolutely. I know you're probably more likely to watch that
1801
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.199
than the substance, but still, you know, I'm trying to
1802
01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:36.119
give some stuff out here and provide some value to
1803
01:37:36.159 --> 01:37:36.760
the conversation.
1804
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:40.800
Another year, when we do this again, we're gonna have
1805
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:42.079
a movie report.
1806
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:49.039
Oh yeah, I actually have a couple unrelated questions for John.
1807
01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:52.039
I don't know how much time everybody has, but I
1808
01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:54.640
just want to get these questions out before we wrap
1809
01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:58.439
up kind of. But so, I know you're really into
1810
01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:01.239
like the healthcare system and every thing, and I actually
1811
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:03.600
cover a little bit about that kind of stuff on
1812
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:07.760
my own show. But I had this girl that I
1813
01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:11.520
worked with and my mom died of cancer, so it's
1814
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.279
like close to home for me, Like, because I agree
1815
01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:16.439
with you, I think she was probably killed more by
1816
01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:20.760
the treatment than the actual breast cancer, obviously, but I
1817
01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:23.359
worked with this girl and she said that her husband
1818
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:27.600
completely cured his cancer by taking dog Deie Wormer, and
1819
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:29.840
he has a whole blog about it, how much he
1820
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:32.680
took of it every day. It's never came back. He
1821
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:36.119
didn't do any chemo, he didn't do any radiation. And
1822
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.880
I have this theory that cancer is actually just parasites,
1823
01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:44.920
and they can get you with parasites in your food, water, whatever.
1824
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.560
It's real easy to give somebody a parasitic overload and
1825
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.319
then tell them they have cancer. So what are your
1826
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:52.359
thoughts on something like that, like with the dog Dey
1827
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:53.359
warmer and stuff.
1828
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.760
Well, first of all, I'm so sincerely sorry to hear
1829
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:01.199
about what happened with your mom and I and I'm
1830
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:05.960
glad that you voiced your stance on that because I too,
1831
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:09.880
I don't believe that cancer is a thing. I think
1832
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:13.720
it's it's It is also a character that was created,
1833
01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:19.640
and it is a probably one of the most cruel
1834
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.800
of all characters that they have created, because it's fear
1835
01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:27.720
based and and with God as serious as I can
1836
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possibly say this, if anyone listening or watching this is
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told that they have cancer, or if a loved one
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01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:40.239
is told that they have cancer, I plead and beg
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01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:44.319
of you to look the medical professional that is telling
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01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:47.399
you that in the eyes and say, I'd like to
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01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:50.920
see it. Show it to me. I want to see
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01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:56.319
my cancer acting nefariously in my body. Show it to me.
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01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:59.279
Don't show me a don't don't show me an X
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01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:01.760
ray with a blob and go, that'st your cancer. That
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01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:03.920
could be anything. That could be a that could be
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01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:05.560
a piece of bone, It could be a piece of fat,
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01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:07.439
It could be anything. It could be a water glob,
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01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:09.720
it could be a number of things. I want to
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01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:13.960
see live on a microscope or or or some equivalent thereof.
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01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:17.479
I'd like to see my body acting nefariously against itself.
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01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:23.079
Show me before I subject myself to to your to
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01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:27.039
your burning, and and your pharmaceuticals and and and your
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01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:31.039
cutting and surgery. I'd like to see that. And and
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01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.000
that is a question that I have pleaded with people
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01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.560
over the years to ask. And I do know people
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01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.840
that have asked, and I've yet to have anyone come
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01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:43.079
back and go, they showed it to me. So these
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01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:49.279
people that have cured cured their cancer by doing other things,
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01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:52.039
I think what they have cured themselves from is they've
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01:40:52.079 --> 01:41:00.560
actually saved themselves from the traditional treatment. And like doing anything,
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I I mean I don't doubt that they did take
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a dog d wormery. They could have taken popcorn, they
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01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.720
could could they could have eaten a slur you drank
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01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:16.760
a slurpee or something. Anything other than the treatment is
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going to have a better outcome than the treatment.
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And I agree with you on that. And there is
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a spiritual component to it as well, I know, but.
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You know, I'd love I'd really love your your take
1869
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on this, because I would. I would. I've just seen
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01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:39.319
it with my own eyes that that that these type
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of words affect I think they affect all of us,
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but I think, like I think they affect women more.
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And I say that with with grace and mercy. If
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someone was to tell a little girl that she was
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ugly or she was fat, I don't care how strong
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01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:00.520
that little girl is, or even a little boy, but
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I'm just saying I think it would affect a little
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01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.079
girl more. If if you heard you know, you're fat,
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you're ugly, you are never going to forget that you're
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It's it's gonna be with you your entire life. You're
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never gonna forget that you were told you were fat,
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you were ugly. Imagine being told that you have this
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01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:22.439
thing that's going to kill you, that's gonna that's gonna
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01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:25.399
hit you like a ton of bricks, way harder than
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01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:27.560
being told you were fat or you were ugly. So
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just the the very act of being diagnosed and die.
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01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:38.119
Diagnose is a is a very strange word. Die means too,
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01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:44.399
ag means not. Nosis is knowing, So it's two people
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not knowing.
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That's interesting.
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Anyways, to tell someone that they have this thing that's
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going to kill them is a very powerful and cruel
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thing to do to somebody. And the human body is
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01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:08.640
an amazing machine. If you think, and this is if
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01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.039
we are all being honest with ourselves, you know that
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this is true. You've talked yourself sick before, you've thought
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yourself sick before. You know, like, if you think that
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01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:20.359
you're going to get sick, you're going to get sick.
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If you if you, I don't know, you twist your ankle,
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I hope I didn't break it. You know it's gonna
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01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:31.039
hurt more. If you're really stressed about not right, it's
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01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:36.720
going to hurt you. You can manifest that good or bad.
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01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:41.079
And there's no stronger motivator than fear. And so a
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01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:43.720
lot of people who are told that they have things.
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01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:46.279
That's all they have to do is tell them that
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01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:48.920
they have it, and they from that point forward, that
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01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:52.079
person is moving forward in a state of fear. And
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01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:56.680
most people are not strong enough to go fuck that,
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I'm going to get another opinion or I'm not listening
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to that shit all.
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Well, here's a good example of that. Actually, there was
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a fucking crazy lady who went on Doctor Phil and
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she had a big, fucking pregnant belly like you'd never
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guess otherwise that she was like eight months pregnant. She's
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not pregnant. She's been pregnant for like seven years or
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01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:22.880
something like that, and she's convinced herself that any day
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now she's gonna have a baby. And they've done ultrasounds
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for they've done all kinds of crazy stuff for they
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01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.359
told her there's no babies in there, but her belly
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01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:36.199
continues to grow, she has all the pregnancy symptoms, and
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01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:41.439
she literally convinced herself and her body responded to a
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01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:45.920
fake pregnancy. Yeah. So I mean, if you don't think
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you can manifest stuff in your body and bring it
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into the physical plane, like you're crazy.
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Everything that happens physically to you is a result of
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what's happened, what you're mentally feeding, you know, like remember
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like the Jim Rose sideshow circus that toured with Lollapalooza,
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the kind of the freaks, the circus freaks and all
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or you've seen like the people that will hang they'll
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have like the piercings in their skin, and then they'll.
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They'll have a chick that was into suspension.
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So okay, those this is a this is a fucked
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up way to get to the same place. But like those,
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in order to do that, you have to tell your
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body that it doesn't hurt, because it does hurt. Pain
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is mental, you know, but you can turn it off.
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And so those people have learned to turn off pain.
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You know, there's there's I think you know, there's athletes
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and stuff. Well, you know, anyone that's doing endurance stuff
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learns to they are controlling their physical state of being
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and they can tell themselves, I'm not tired. You know,
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this doesn't hurt, you know, and and it that's that's
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a positive use of the mind controlling the body. But
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the negative use would be like telling someone you have cancer.
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You got and and I wish I could collectively at
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one time, take my fist and drive it into the
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face of every medical professional that's ever looked another human
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being in the eyes and said you have three months
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or six months to live.
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I mean that is they did it to my mom.
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I mean it like, imagine again again, anyone that's been
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a parent, or or even a best friend, or your
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your boyfriend or your girlfriend, anyone that you care about,
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if you knew that that person had a year to live,
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would you tell them?
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Mm?
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Yeah?
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Never would you?
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I mean I mean I would I wouldn't. I love
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my wife more than anything, but if I knew she,
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if I knew she was going to die tomorrow, I would.
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I would live of that. I would live today with
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every fucking second of passion, and I would want her
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to pass as happy as she possibly could. But I
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would never. You would never would you tell your kid
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that they're gonna die in six months if you knew
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that they were going to die? First of all, how
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could you even know that?
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Mm hmmm?
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How could how can agreeance with you so physical attack?
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That's like that old question, like would you want to
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01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:30.840
know like the day and the time and the method
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01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:32.319
that you're going to die? Right, Like a lot of
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01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:34.840
people would, and then a lot of people wouldn't you know,
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It's just I I personally would not, But I mean
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there's a lot of people that would like to know Colby.
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01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:48.640
Yeah, you want to know dying tonight make my best
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fucking damn table.
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Yeah, it's a that's a that's deep.
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It's it's like I said, it's like a mental, physical,
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01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:02.279
spiritual attack on a person to say stuff like that
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and then subject them to months of Like you just
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01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:07.720
told me, I have six months to live, and you
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01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:10.479
want fucking four of those months to be trying to
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01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.600
save me so I can live a little bit longer
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01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:14.840
with a bunch of toxic shit that makes me sick
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01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:17.359
all the time, makes my teeth fall out, my hair
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fall out, and pukin and all this. So if I
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have six months to live, you're telling me I'm gonna
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spend half of those months fucking being chemically killed basically,
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and then hopefully that prolongs it a little bit longer. So,
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I mean, I have a lot of theories on it,
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and also kind of circle back to something we were
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talking about earlier with like you said, if you wanted
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to attack Medford, Oregon, why would you like kill a
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bunch of people in a movie theater. The same thing
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exists in my mind when it comes to like it's
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so easy to kill people without doing all of that
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extra shit. All you gotta do is put like a
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shit ton of parasites in somebody's like water supply or
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01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:02.279
something like that. You've killed everybody at that point. You
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01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:04.439
don't even have to like put your hands on them,
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01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:07.279
which is why COVID was such an interesting tool that
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01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:10.880
they used. But I mean, biological warfare is where it's at,
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not like bombs and explosions and ship.
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No no, no doubt, which is why, which is why
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I think, you know, for the most part, you know,
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the terrorism isn't real terrorism is is you know that
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01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.319
it was part of that whole terraan noia campaign that
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nine to eleven kicked off, and and I get I'm
2011
01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.119
glad that resonated because because hope hopefully it resonates with
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01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:34.359
with with others that are hearing this, because you just
2013
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:38.800
that's not how you'd you know, even even people like
2014
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:41.640
people are thinking like, you know, I don't know, we
2015
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:46.680
the whole thing with TikTok being a Chinese company, you know,
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they're they're taking all of your data. You know, well,
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well ge so is fed book and the Meta and
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Amazon and Google.
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You know, it's like, what Ryan, that TikTok isn't even
2020
01:49:58.560 --> 01:49:59.279
Chinese owned?
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01:49:59.600 --> 01:50:04.199
Well you it was even if it was, who cares?
2022
01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:08.680
And and what is China's like the the the district
2023
01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:11.079
of Columbia's biggest business partner.
2024
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:12.479
Do you do you think that?
2025
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:14.760
Do you think the powers that shouldn't be in China
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01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:19.520
want anything to happen to the American public? No, that's
2027
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:22.760
a fucking bank roll, you know, that's their customer base.
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So I don't doubt that there are members of the
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Chinese government that have issues with members of other governments.
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But if you've got beef with the wouldn't you attack
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that ship? You would? I'm I'm Chinese terrorist and I'm
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01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:39.560
met at the US government, So I'm gonna go shoot
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up a shopping mall. That'll show them what this doesn't
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even that's not that's not how gangsta ship works. And
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if there were, if there were real gangsters, they they'd
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be taking care of business. And I'm sorry, but if
2037
01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:02.119
if terrorism was real, especially Middle East terrorist, you're you know,
2038
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.079
I don't even want to disrespect the Middle East by
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01:51:05.279 --> 01:51:08.319
by saying that they're Middle Eastern terrorists because they're they're
2040
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:13.159
they got bad aim you know, stop stop stop aiming
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01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.920
at shopping malls and marathons and and and these and
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01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.520
these weird little off targets and aim towards the district
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01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:23.279
of criminals stuff there.
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01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:25.359
Well, yeah, and I think that they can pull that
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kind of stuff off. And then seeing how that war
2046
01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:29.760
went with them, I mean it's it's people throwing rocks
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01:51:29.760 --> 01:51:32.479
and sticks at tanks and and you know, massive guns
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01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:34.359
and stuff like. They don't have the ability, I don't
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01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.560
think to really do that kind of stuff, you know,
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01:51:37.239 --> 01:51:39.920
it like you're saying, John, it makes zero sense when
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01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:42.039
you actually think about it for a second. But they
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01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:44.840
use the fear and the you know, American pride and
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01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:47.119
all that stuff to combat that, I think, And then
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you don't think logically.
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01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:51.000
Yeah, yeah, and and and if I wanted, if I
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01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:54.720
wanted to stoke some American pride and get get them
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worked up, well then I would just you know, I'd
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get some MK ultra goon to go shoot up a
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01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.039
shopping all and say that it was Russian terrorists, and
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01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:08.720
then America's gonna go down? How many false flags? I mean,
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01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:11.399
like it's just like, how many times have we seen
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01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:15.479
stories of like, you know, ah, you know, somebody spray
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01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:18.640
painted the N word on somebody's locker in school. Well,
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01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:20.479
it was a black person that spray painted the N
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01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:22.760
word to make you know, soak the you know, or
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somebody spray painted a swastika on the you know, on
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the wall. It's like, yeah, like again, that's that's not
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that's not how gangster shit works.
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But then they tell you too that if you're afraid,
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the terrorists win, right if you're afraid of it, So
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it's like they're they're trying to get ahead of it
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like that.
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Well well yeah, but yeah, again, the terrorists in that
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scenario would be the characters, you know, and they created
2075
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:51.479
these characters of terrorists, and in order to prop up
2076
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:54.720
that character storyline, you got you gotta have some you
2077
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:57.039
gotta have some false flags events to prop it up
2078
01:52:57.079 --> 01:52:59.880
for you know, the character of the terrorists doesn't do
2079
01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:00.600
much good.
2080
01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:03.279
Yeah, yeah, there's got to be the good guys and
2081
01:53:03.319 --> 01:53:08.239
the bad guys. And the good guys what you got
2082
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:09.720
to create the good guys and the bad guys, and
2083
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:11.199
you have to control, and you have to be in
2084
01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:13.600
control of them both, right. And the thing is they
2085
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:15.760
say that the good guys are American government and the
2086
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.560
bad guys are you know, the other governments and the
2087
01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:19.399
other terrorists of the world, and it's okay to just
2088
01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.039
be like thinking that, Yeah, maybe there's just two assholes
2089
01:53:22.079 --> 01:53:24.319
fighting and we don't really need to have a dog
2090
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:27.920
in the race, right because I don't know, our government's
2091
01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:29.720
not not too much on the up and up. In
2092
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:31.439
my opinion, I think a lot of people share that
2093
01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:34.920
sentiment there. But yeah, it's a it's as far as
2094
01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:37.600
I'm concerned, it's two assholes fighting. Whenever countries are going
2095
01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:39.279
to war. There's no real good stuff.
2096
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.039
War if it lands on my front doorstep. But I'm
2097
01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:44.479
not really worried about that happening anytime.
2098
01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:46.359
Soon, yeah, or even in the country, right. And I'm
2099
01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:48.039
sure that you're getting at that same thing, like it,
2100
01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:51.279
you know, if someone were to come here and directly
2101
01:53:51.319 --> 01:53:54.680
threaten us, and it's real sure, I mean, I think
2102
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:55.800
a lot of people would fight.
2103
01:53:55.920 --> 01:54:01.319
But what like they think of a scenario where I mean,
2104
01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:04.399
and I'm not totally being a smart ass on this,
2105
01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:06.119
but I mean, and it is an open ended question.
2106
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:10.800
Think of a scenario like what to what good to
2107
01:54:10.920 --> 01:54:16.199
any foreign power would it be to take over Let's
2108
01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:18.319
just use the United States to just take over the
2109
01:54:18.439 --> 01:54:22.600
United States? Like what like like round everybody up and
2110
01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:23.520
put them in camps?
2111
01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:28.000
Like what that's the that ship takes to do? Yeah?
2112
01:54:28.039 --> 01:54:30.920
What? What a pain in the ass. I mean just
2113
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:33.239
to I live in a small little town. Just to
2114
01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:35.840
round everybody up in this small little town would be
2115
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:38.720
a pain in the ass. Would be you You'd have
2116
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.000
to kill half of them because it wouldn't no one
2117
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:43.119
would do it. It'd be like, fuck out of here,
2118
01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:47.880
I'm watching TV the game, you know, like, and then
2119
01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:50.800
you'd have a bunch of dead bodies stinking and smelling
2120
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:56.479
the place up. It's like, what, under what reasonable scenario
2121
01:54:56.520 --> 01:55:01.760
would a foreign power come in and take over another country.
2122
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.359
They wouldn't take over the country. They may take over
2123
01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.880
the administrative you know, the the the offices and all
2124
01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:10.960
of that, but it would be to their advantage to
2125
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:12.720
have the people just not even know anything about that.
2126
01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:16.319
Let's let the people go on about there. Now they're
2127
01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:19.600
really in charge, you know what I'm saying. You'd quietly
2128
01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:22.239
take control of the actual control mechanism.
2129
01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:26.279
Do you think that, like the Yuri Bezumenoff interview where
2130
01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.720
he talked about all that in the early eighties, do
2131
01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.439
you think there's something to that. I'm not so he
2132
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.199
made he was a Russian spy, who did you know?
2133
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:38.800
He defected and he ended up here and he went
2134
01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:40.960
on the media circuit, and he was really the first
2135
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.720
one who brought into mainstream.
2136
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:48.880
Yeah, you really were a Russian spy and you defected.
2137
01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:51.960
Of course the next thing you would do is go
2138
01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:53.119
on a media tour.
2139
01:55:53.239 --> 01:55:55.359
See exactly. So that's the point I'm getting to. But
2140
01:55:55.439 --> 01:56:01.520
he planned the seed that you don't use school warfare anymore.
2141
01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:07.680
You take a few decades to infiltrate every meaningful, influential institution.
2142
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:10.479
And he was warning that that was going to happen.
2143
01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:13.119
And now there's people saying, look, it's happening. Look at Disney,
2144
01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:16.600
look at the colleges, which Disney and the colleges were
2145
01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:20.479
always like that, And so I don't know. So do
2146
01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:23.039
you think all that stuff's kind of fake? Cold warship
2147
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:26.800
just the whole back and forth with all that throughout
2148
01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:27.279
the ages.
2149
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:31.199
I would like I would like to see an example
2150
01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:37.479
of an actual military operation that was organic and necessary.
2151
01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:40.960
Well what about like the whole, like the taking of
2152
01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.399
this country, like how it is now, like the like
2153
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:47.199
our ancestors. And I'm not I'm glad that they did it,
2154
01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:48.880
to be clear, I'm not. I'm not one of these
2155
01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:52.319
people that's like, you know, overly Native American sympathetic or anything.
2156
01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:54.159
I got nothing against the people or nothing like that.
2157
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.039
But like they came in here, white people came in
2158
01:56:56.079 --> 01:56:59.800
here and took all that land and all that all
2159
01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:03.279
the resources from the Native Americans, and that I mean,
2160
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:06.279
as far as I'm aware, that's a real thing. That's
2161
01:57:06.279 --> 01:57:09.359
not a fake thing. So I think that a foreign eight,
2162
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:11.960
a foreign entity could want to do the same thing
2163
01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:14.800
to us. It wouldn't be as easy as it was
2164
01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:17.039
back then because it was basically people with guns fighting
2165
01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:20.920
people with bows and arrows. But I mean, I think
2166
01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:25.000
that there's always a reason that some someone could want
2167
01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:28.600
to take the resources in the land from us. You know,
2168
01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:31.399
there's got to be I mean, I can't justify in
2169
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:33.760
my mind because, like you said, John to be a
2170
01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:35.920
pain in the ass, and there's a lot of guns here.
2171
01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:38.520
There's more guns than people. I think a lot of
2172
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.560
the people that talk tough about their guns. They wouldn't
2173
01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:42.479
use it because they can't even run a fucking mile,
2174
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:44.319
you know, and you need to be a little bit
2175
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:48.680
physically fit to actually fight a war. But you know,
2176
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:50.720
I think that it could happen. I don't think it will,
2177
01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:52.760
but I think it's possible, you know, And I think
2178
01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:55.439
that there would be motives for outside entities to want
2179
01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:55.840
to do that.
2180
01:57:56.720 --> 01:58:00.800
There's there's always going to be turf wars always. But
2181
01:58:02.199 --> 01:58:05.880
again back to the gangster thing. It's like when when
2182
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:11.239
when there's gang turf wars, they're they're controlling a certain
2183
01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:16.359
aspect of that area. They're not controlling that area in totality,
2184
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:17.319
you know.
2185
01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:21.039
And also it's like a subversion type thing invasion.
2186
01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.960
Well, I mean like like if I, you know, if
2187
01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:25.880
I was a foreign you know, if I was a
2188
01:58:26.680 --> 01:58:31.199
foreign entity and I wanted to h take I want
2189
01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:32.920
to do a land grab, you know, I want I
2190
01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.840
wanted I wanted someone else's turf. I I don't think
2191
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:41.319
that I would have any you know, illusions of grandeur
2192
01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:44.600
that I'm going to go in and and I'm going
2193
01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:47.479
to completely clear everything out and now I'm gonna have
2194
01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:50.039
this piece of land for me to do with whatever
2195
01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:54.880
I want, because again I'd have to kill everybody, burn everything.
2196
01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:58.000
I mean, good for the soildies are good for the soil,
2197
01:58:58.359 --> 01:58:58.720
you know.
2198
01:58:59.479 --> 01:59:04.840
Well, you know, yep, perhaps, but it sure seems like
2199
01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:09.880
like I don't know why a foreign entity would would
2200
01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:16.680
would want to come onto US soil and put people
2201
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.680
in camps and round them up. And I mean there's.
2202
01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:21.960
John do you think World War two narratives at all?
2203
01:59:22.760 --> 01:59:24.560
I don't think any of the World War narratives are
2204
01:59:24.720 --> 01:59:29.000
as as it. Again, I stand by my statement, I'd
2205
01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:32.680
like to see an example of a military action ever
2206
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:37.720
in history that was in current modern history that would
2207
01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:41.159
that was both organic and necessary.
2208
01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:45.520
We still have a body count to deal with. I
2209
01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:47.520
just don't think it's as they made it out to be.
2210
01:59:49.159 --> 01:59:51.399
Well, it's like nine to eleven, like he was talking earlier.
2211
01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:56.560
I mean, obviously people die when I mean I always thought,
2212
01:59:56.760 --> 02:00:01.399
just from my own like base of research, that eugenics
2213
02:00:02.079 --> 02:00:05.560
everything that was thought of and conceived and eventually tried
2214
02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:09.039
took place maybe in some camps in that era in Europe,
2215
02:00:09.079 --> 02:00:11.920
but it was probably us doing it. Paper Clip was
2216
02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:13.680
just trying to hide the trail of like, yeah, it's
2217
02:00:13.680 --> 02:00:17.279
been us all along and we'll continue to do it
2218
02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:20.600
like you talked about with the COVID experiments all that stuff,
2219
02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:23.039
like they do it out in the open, and then
2220
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.560
they might like come up with the boogeyman. But like
2221
02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:30.560
I mean, you got even talk about Holocaust like possibilities.
2222
02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:33.239
That are there. There you there you go. I mean,
2223
02:00:33.239 --> 02:00:36.560
if if you you know anything that you're told you
2224
02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:39.319
can't talk about, you know, you're onto something, you know,
2225
02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:42.279
and there are people and in the in the case
2226
02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:47.720
of of Holocaust Incorporated, they you know, there are people
2227
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:51.960
in jail for talking about Holocaust incorporated. Yeah, I just
2228
02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:53.920
add the ink on the end of it, because you
2229
02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:58.880
know clearly was uh you know another initiative.
2230
02:00:59.119 --> 02:01:01.439
You get add a trademark or a copyright to it too,
2231
02:01:01.479 --> 02:01:04.880
probably right, did you just mention eugenics, Kolby, I was
2232
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:06.119
looking something up while you were talking.
2233
02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:08.760
Yeah, I was just saying, like the eugenics that the
2234
02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.600
Nazis were supposedly studying on all the Jews. I think
2235
02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:15.039
that was mainly a tink tink and Long Island or
2236
02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:16.199
something like that that came up.
2237
02:01:16.359 --> 02:01:20.720
Right, Well, we know that the US was heavily involved
2238
02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:24.159
with the Nazis, right, And potentially still are. But yeah,
2239
02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:26.439
there's there's euthenics too, and that's that's what I was
2240
02:01:26.479 --> 02:01:28.319
looking up because I remember the term, I just forgot
2241
02:01:28.359 --> 02:01:30.920
what it was. And eugenics is about future generations and
2242
02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:35.079
euthenics is about current the current generation trying to speed
2243
02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:37.800
that process up. So and that's another one of those
2244
02:01:37.800 --> 02:01:41.560
cosmic terms, the cosmism terms. So yeah, it's just, dude,
2245
02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:44.199
I feel like a lot of these words get thrown around,
2246
02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:47.960
and it's more of a distraction because the the COVID
2247
02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:51.479
stuff seemed like it was more euthenics than eugenics. It
2248
02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:54.439
was very current. It's gone now, you know, but it
2249
02:01:54.520 --> 02:01:57.680
was focusing on the present time and and it was
2250
02:01:57.880 --> 02:02:02.039
very very like short term. It wasn't thinking about long
2251
02:02:02.159 --> 02:02:05.560
term stuff with with the with COVID and eugenics.
2252
02:02:06.159 --> 02:02:11.039
But do you think it could have possibly been both,
2253
02:02:11.239 --> 02:02:17.399
because I've read a couple of articles and stuff on it,
2254
02:02:17.520 --> 02:02:20.840
just because I'm into it and also worried about mine
2255
02:02:20.960 --> 02:02:28.119
into it. You're into eugenics, No, that I could be.
2256
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:33.039
But I've seen like a lot of women who are
2257
02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:37.319
either having a bunch of miscarriages or not able to
2258
02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:44.399
get pregnant at all following getting the job. Well, that's
2259
02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:46.560
what I'm saying. It could possibly be both. I mean
2260
02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.319
they could be playing the short game and the long game,
2261
02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:53.399
because now women are having a very difficult time conceiving
2262
02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:57.319
and there's like this outrageous number of women getting diagnosed
2263
02:02:57.359 --> 02:03:00.920
with PCOS. I happen to be one of those people.
2264
02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:04.079
But I'm not saying that's like, Oh, I have PCOS,
2265
02:03:04.119 --> 02:03:07.479
so I'm a victim and I'm fucking I didn't get
2266
02:03:07.479 --> 02:03:09.840
the job. So it could be totally unrelated. But I
2267
02:03:09.880 --> 02:03:13.439
just think it's crazy how people aren't putting those two
2268
02:03:13.479 --> 02:03:14.199
things together.
2269
02:03:14.560 --> 02:03:15.960
Like the.
2270
02:03:17.520 --> 02:03:23.359
Whole, the whole, the whole COVID thing was I think multifaceted.
2271
02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:25.439
I don't think it was about one particular thing. I
2272
02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:30.119
think it was pretty well thought out in advance. Look
2273
02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:35.680
to event, you know, to still on YouTube? Did you
2274
02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:38.800
get your little COVID plushy? Remember they gave those out
2275
02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:40.119
for attending the event.
2276
02:03:40.560 --> 02:03:42.960
I've seen them. I've seen him on merch from the
2277
02:03:42.960 --> 02:03:45.199
COVID era. I want to have some of that just
2278
02:03:45.239 --> 02:03:47.239
for when I'm old and I can look back. There
2279
02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:51.000
was Anthony Fauci, pillows, there was wild stuff.
2280
02:03:50.760 --> 02:03:52.359
The Saint Fauci bubblehead.
2281
02:03:53.239 --> 02:03:54.560
Oh my god, just merch.
2282
02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:57.600
Yeah. I think it was multifaceted. There there was definitely
2283
02:03:57.640 --> 02:04:01.800
some population control aspects to it, with with the infertility
2284
02:04:01.880 --> 02:04:04.039
and and and and then just the just the death.
2285
02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:07.159
You know that there there was there was definitely some
2286
02:04:07.279 --> 02:04:11.039
experimentation last back to it with like the five G
2287
02:04:11.159 --> 02:04:14.479
technology and the nanotechnology. I think there there was some
2288
02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:19.039
you know, geopolitic aspects to it. How how it affected
2289
02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:21.960
current events that were going on at the time worldwide,
2290
02:04:22.359 --> 02:04:25.600
you know, I think you know it, let's let's never
2291
02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:31.000
forget that this this event had full and you know,
2292
02:04:31.560 --> 02:04:35.159
here here's the I don't know if if you can
2293
02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:36.920
see this, but but probably not.
2294
02:04:37.079 --> 02:04:42.399
That was Dutch government official amidst COVID pandemic was military
2295
02:04:42.439 --> 02:04:45.800
operation ministry.
2296
02:04:45.880 --> 02:04:49.119
They were taking all of their cues from NATO. So NATO,
2297
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:53.239
I don't know, you say all roads lead to Rome,
2298
02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:54.800
you I think you could say a lot of roads
2299
02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:57.640
lead to NATO as well. So so it was a NATO.
2300
02:04:57.840 --> 02:05:03.640
COVID was a NATO operation admitted by the Dutch government,
2301
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:08.000
all but admitted to by the US government in that
2302
02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:12.479
five and twenty page thing that just came out last week.
2303
02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:17.000
I don't think it was just about one thing. I
2304
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:18.720
think they got a lot out of it. It's like,
2305
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:20.720
you know, it's the gift that will keep on giving,
2306
02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:22.239
just like nine to eleven was the gift that keeps
2307
02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:22.640
on given.
2308
02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:25.920
Well, that's why I say biowarfare is really where it's at.
2309
02:05:25.960 --> 02:05:28.920
If we were playing the Illuminati card game, I'm going
2310
02:05:29.039 --> 02:05:33.159
bio warfare on all y'all asses every time. I'll win
2311
02:05:33.640 --> 02:05:36.000
fucking every game with biowarfare.
2312
02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.439
How do you not play that game? Though? Do we
2313
02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:40.439
know how to play that game?
2314
02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:42.800
I had my mom got it for me for Christmas
2315
02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:46.079
after I did an episode on predictive Programming. That game.
2316
02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:47.760
I have it.
2317
02:05:47.800 --> 02:05:49.720
I've never played it. It seems really stupid.
2318
02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:52.159
It's an expensive game. Man, that's a great gift.
2319
02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:56.600
It's based on the Illuminatus trilogy Robert Anton Wilson, which
2320
02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.000
is one of the coolest books ever written. I don't
2321
02:05:59.039 --> 02:06:01.119
know what he was but he was trying to say,
2322
02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:05.800
but it's like, it's a fucking murder mystery with the Illuminati,
2323
02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:08.920
and it's got telepathic dolphins and cia.
2324
02:06:09.399 --> 02:06:10.279
Oh that's awesome.
2325
02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.760
It came out in the seventies, but aren't you supposed to.
2326
02:06:12.920 --> 02:06:16.640
Like the point to win is like whatever your strategy is,
2327
02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:18.680
outstrategizes the other person.
2328
02:06:18.920 --> 02:06:21.439
Yeah, I mean it's it's a tabletop. It's like Monopoly
2329
02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:23.119
with like secret societies.
2330
02:06:23.359 --> 02:06:26.720
So my strategy is by a warfare on all y'all asses.
2331
02:06:26.920 --> 02:06:29.199
We should get together sometime and play the game on
2332
02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:31.680
here and you can just like have the hands. That'd
2333
02:06:31.720 --> 02:06:33.000
be fair play.
2334
02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:36.079
I played a card game with Ryan. Oh god, was
2335
02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:39.039
it last year for New Year's Oh?
2336
02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:40.920
Yeah, it was like a trivia thing though, wasn't it?
2337
02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:41.199
Or no?
2338
02:06:41.800 --> 02:06:43.960
Oh yeah it was. I think it was a trivia thing, but.
2339
02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:48.880
It was almost like Jeopardy. It was kind of like Jeopardy. Yeah,
2340
02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:50.960
and John, you mentioned five G man, do you think
2341
02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:52.920
five g's real? I'm convinced it's fake.
2342
02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:58.600
I don't know if five G in particular is real
2343
02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:01.960
or fake. But I am a huge believer in frequencies
2344
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:06.640
and you know, and the resulting vibration. I do know
2345
02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:12.520
that frequencies cause vibration, and through frequencies, physical matter can
2346
02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:21.439
be manipulated. And so I have done some real life
2347
02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:27.079
experimentation just because of my wife's situation. We I take
2348
02:07:27.439 --> 02:07:31.640
the topic of radiation very seriously. So any anything that
2349
02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:37.000
has an electrical current running through it radiates. Okay, So
2350
02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:40.560
so so we are constantly you know, like right right now,
2351
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:44.000
I've I'm we're all baking in radiation. There's wires in
2352
02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:48.680
our walls, ceiling floor, I mean, we're just baking in radiation. Now.
2353
02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:53.640
Not all radiation is quote unquote deadly, but all radiation
2354
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:57.479
there's always a cause and effect. And you know, you
2355
02:07:57.520 --> 02:08:00.319
can you know, I don't know if you've ever seen
2356
02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:03.520
you know, the the Chiladney plates, you know, those the
2357
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:06.479
vibrating plates where they it's just a it's like a
2358
02:08:06.520 --> 02:08:08.119
speaker and it's got a metal plate on it, and
2359
02:08:08.119 --> 02:08:10.960
they'll put some sort of sell salt or something, and
2360
02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:15.239
then the frequencies arrange the salt in geometric patterns. So
2361
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:19.439
there's proof positive that that frequencies can manipulate physical matter.
2362
02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:24.720
So uh whatever, call it five G for what what,
2363
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:27.680
whatever name they want to put on it, you can
2364
02:08:29.159 --> 02:08:34.159
you can manipulate life with through frequencies. And and we've
2365
02:08:34.199 --> 02:08:38.720
got I mean, you never ever ever see birds hanging
2366
02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:43.760
out on those cell towers because they because they know better,
2367
02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:45.760
you know, they don't want to go fucking near that.
2368
02:08:45.880 --> 02:08:48.039
You and if you look around, like I live in
2369
02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:50.600
a fairly rural area, and so I can, I can
2370
02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:53.399
go up to the areas where the cell towers are.
2371
02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:57.279
You don't even the actual plant life changes around the
2372
02:08:57.279 --> 02:08:59.640
base of those things too, you know, you don't. You
2373
02:08:59.640 --> 02:09:02.640
don't see the same You step back a couple more
2374
02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.479
hundred feet and you see it starts to grow again,
2375
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:10.399
like stuff starts to grow. So whatever frequencies are coming
2376
02:09:10.439 --> 02:09:15.880
off of those things, they are they're anti biotic. They're
2377
02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:18.920
you know, biotic means life, and whatever the frequencies are,
2378
02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:20.560
they're anti their anti life.
2379
02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:23.000
Yeah, I guess I should have been more clear, like
2380
02:09:23.079 --> 02:09:25.840
five G relating to phones, you know, because that's the
2381
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.079
that's the part that I think is completely fake. But
2382
02:09:28.479 --> 02:09:31.159
I agree that there could be some very harmful frequency
2383
02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:34.439
coming from these things because I've seen, uh, you know
2384
02:09:34.479 --> 02:09:36.840
what you're what you're talking about there where the biology
2385
02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:38.840
around these things is different.
2386
02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:41.960
You know, than to put a bunch of these fucking
2387
02:09:42.039 --> 02:09:44.920
whatever they're for and just say, yeah, that's for your phones, right,
2388
02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:50.239
because then accept that yeah, faster internet, yeah exactly.
2389
02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:55.079
I I yeah, I honestly, I'm kind of with you
2390
02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:59.159
on I wouldn't just I wouldn't just say that the
2391
02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:04.840
topic of five G is is fake. I think the
2392
02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:08.640
whole telecommunication narrative is fake all the way up to
2393
02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:12.760
the topic of satellites. I don't. I just I just
2394
02:10:13.279 --> 02:10:15.880
I don't see it. I mean, I think what what
2395
02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:19.800
people think of as satellites is actually the the Google
2396
02:10:19.880 --> 02:10:23.279
Loon program. You know, where those high altitude you know,
2397
02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:27.520
atmosphere balloons that are hanging those what they're called. I mean,
2398
02:10:27.560 --> 02:10:33.199
there's tons of footage of those things being launched. Yeah, yeah,
2399
02:10:33.600 --> 02:10:43.800
satelloons exactly. And and I think that if how about
2400
02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:46.880
how about this, I'd like to go back. I'd like
2401
02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:50.000
to go why don't they incorporate the technology that they
2402
02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:54.279
used for the moon landing, because man, they had perfect community.
2403
02:10:54.279 --> 02:11:00.920
They never lost signal ever, ever, never lost signal. Well, shit,
2404
02:11:00.960 --> 02:11:04.600
I lose signal talking to somebody five miles away. So
2405
02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:07.640
let's let's go back to whatever that was, which didn't exist,
2406
02:11:07.640 --> 02:11:10.319
because that whole narrative didn't exist. But I'm just being
2407
02:11:10.399 --> 02:11:12.840
I'm just being an asshole with that. But but now
2408
02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:17.079
I think the hotelecommunications and satellites and five G and
2409
02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:19.800
all of that stuff is just another example of it's
2410
02:11:19.840 --> 02:11:21.119
not what they say it is.
2411
02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:24.800
Well, isn't that kind of like multi layered though, because
2412
02:11:24.920 --> 02:11:28.520
you'd first have to believe space is real. Then you'd
2413
02:11:28.560 --> 02:11:31.439
have to believe that it's not a fucking vacuum in
2414
02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:33.439
that when you got into it, you didn't just like
2415
02:11:33.560 --> 02:11:35.920
crash like a tin can once you got up there.
2416
02:11:36.199 --> 02:11:38.920
Then you have to believe, like somebody could actually pass
2417
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.199
through the Van Allen Belts and not get roasted in
2418
02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:44.479
their fucking seat. And like there's so many layers to that.
2419
02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:47.239
I don't know what the fuck I am these days.
2420
02:11:47.279 --> 02:11:50.039
Flatter round or is a snow globe?
2421
02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:50.680
I don't know.
2422
02:11:51.239 --> 02:11:55.319
But if I was gonna choose a camp, I would
2423
02:11:55.359 --> 02:11:59.600
probably pick a flat plane with like some type of dome,
2424
02:12:00.359 --> 02:12:03.079
whether it's not. It doesn't have to be a solid dome.
2425
02:12:03.159 --> 02:12:05.680
But even like like I said before, like the Van
2426
02:12:05.760 --> 02:12:08.840
Allen Belts that they've said exists and you can't pass
2427
02:12:08.920 --> 02:12:11.319
through them and ship like that, I don't know where
2428
02:12:11.359 --> 02:12:14.479
you are on it. But the whole idea of satellites
2429
02:12:14.560 --> 02:12:18.520
and you know, oh yeah, that's that's I mean so retarded.
2430
02:12:18.960 --> 02:12:21.359
If space was real, the Vatican would not have had
2431
02:12:21.399 --> 02:12:23.920
to have commissioned Copernicus to come up with that whole
2432
02:12:23.960 --> 02:12:27.560
thing in the first place, because there because there wasn't
2433
02:12:27.600 --> 02:12:31.600
anything until they paid him to craft that narrative. But
2434
02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:34.439
and then utting flash forward to modern day, the Vatican
2435
02:12:34.640 --> 02:12:38.800
controls all of the you know, observatories you know, worldwide,
2436
02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:40.920
So it's.
2437
02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:43.560
They have one here, John, they have an observatory at
2438
02:12:43.560 --> 02:12:45.920
the u of A, which is the big university here
2439
02:12:45.920 --> 02:12:48.640
in Tucson. And the it's not at the u of A,
2440
02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:52.199
but the U of A is a co owner with them. Yeah,
2441
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:53.520
the Lucifer telescope.
2442
02:12:53.640 --> 02:12:54.239
I've been there.
2443
02:12:54.640 --> 02:12:56.560
Yeah, that's that's uh.
2444
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:00.199
Yeah, yeah, I I I grew up in Tempe, so
2445
02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:01.800
I spent a ton of time in Tucson.
2446
02:13:02.039 --> 02:13:04.439
That's right. I remember you said that last time we talked. Yeah, dude,
2447
02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:07.199
I mean, just the idea of the Vatican owning a
2448
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:10.319
telescope and then choosing to name it Lucifer should tell
2449
02:13:10.359 --> 02:13:11.319
you everything that you need to know.
2450
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.119
That's just an acronym, Ryan, It's just an acronym, right
2451
02:13:17.399 --> 02:13:20.880
large or whatever whether they said it was. But but
2452
02:13:20.880 --> 02:13:24.159
but no, no, they you know again, it's it's it's
2453
02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:28.920
that whole they've created a character. Space is a character,
2454
02:13:29.079 --> 02:13:32.760
and and you gotta. It's to their advantage to get
2455
02:13:32.800 --> 02:13:35.960
you invested in that in that character.
2456
02:13:35.840 --> 02:13:39.239
And John, I got one for you. I just fucke
2457
02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:41.520
thought of it. And you're gonna love this ship too.
2458
02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:45.680
I did a whole episode on John Denver, and it's
2459
02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:48.640
crazy because now we can tie the Laurel Canyon and
2460
02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:51.880
NASA and Fake Face all together because he.
2461
02:13:52.000 --> 02:13:57.439
Was Challenger and Tranny too, because uh I think I
2462
02:13:57.520 --> 02:14:01.079
think I think it was it was Joan Denver.
2463
02:14:03.319 --> 02:14:05.039
My gosh, that's crazy.
2464
02:14:06.279 --> 02:14:08.439
Do me a favorite, Like, as soon as we're done here,
2465
02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:11.520
pull up some because because we're talking about jawlines and stuff,
2466
02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:13.800
pull up some pictures of him and do like, look
2467
02:14:13.880 --> 02:14:18.119
at look at John Denver now through those same lives,
2468
02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:22.760
through the same eyes, because yeah, I think, uh I
2469
02:14:23.600 --> 02:14:27.199
think Joan Denver had a a JJ Oh my god.
2470
02:14:27.399 --> 02:14:29.319
Well, you know, I fucking love him. Whether he's a.
2471
02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:31.800
Trained fantastic music, no, no, no.
2472
02:14:31.880 --> 02:14:33.159
Doubt fantastic music.
2473
02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:34.479
What do you think.
2474
02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:39.079
He was supposed to be on the fucking Challenger that
2475
02:14:39.279 --> 02:14:42.199
exploded and then he wrote that fucking song like they
2476
02:14:42.239 --> 02:14:45.079
were flying for me and like all this weird ship.
2477
02:14:45.159 --> 02:14:48.279
Then he actually did die in a fucking airplane accident.
2478
02:14:48.359 --> 02:14:52.840
Supposedly he thinks he Colby thinks he could still be alive.
2479
02:14:53.239 --> 02:14:54.319
Well, he thinks.
2480
02:14:56.039 --> 02:14:59.479
He was friends with presidents. He was part of the
2481
02:14:59.560 --> 02:15:04.319
board for NASA. He like, had all these weird space connections.
2482
02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:09.000
Yeah. She She and Petty have an island in Fiji
2483
02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:13.239
right now that occasionally Bowie and Prince come over. That'll
2484
02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.560
kind of jam. And yeah, I think I think they're
2485
02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:19.279
opening for Oasis in twenty twenty five. Tom.
2486
02:15:19.319 --> 02:15:25.479
Petty's not a tranny, is he. No, no, no, no, no, no, please, Okay,
2487
02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:27.920
don't tell me that, because I mean, I'm still going
2488
02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:30.159
to listen to its music. But I love that.
2489
02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.680
I told you, dude. Yeah, I'm a fucking saint, Petty Man,
2490
02:15:33.840 --> 02:15:35.600
I love it. I love that.
2491
02:15:36.199 --> 02:15:38.319
Yeah, dude. We were outside, we had a campfire the
2492
02:15:38.399 --> 02:15:40.920
other night in the front yard, and I took some
2493
02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:43.000
shrooms and we were just I just put it on
2494
02:15:43.119 --> 02:15:46.079
Apple Music and clicked the first song and you can
2495
02:15:46.199 --> 02:15:49.680
just listen through, just listen through it, and every one
2496
02:15:49.720 --> 02:15:50.960
of those damn songs.
2497
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:54.159
Is Have you seen Have you seen the four hour
2498
02:15:54.279 --> 02:15:58.439
documentary Noll? Dude, it's it's first of all, if you're
2499
02:15:58.439 --> 02:16:01.119
a documentary I'm a documentary geek, which is why I
2500
02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:03.319
love the fact that you you turned me on to
2501
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:08.680
realdocumentaries dot com. But if yeah, yeah, go and watch
2502
02:16:08.760 --> 02:16:10.520
the time. It's a it's a it's an investment. It's
2503
02:16:10.720 --> 02:16:13.720
it's over four hours long, but it is man it.
2504
02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:18.680
I loved not just Petty, but every one of the heartbreakers,
2505
02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:21.800
each one. I mean, Mike Campbell is a guitar hero
2506
02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:26.439
of mine and like, you will love them times ten
2507
02:16:26.600 --> 02:16:32.280
after this documentary, like he was after watching I used
2508
02:16:32.360 --> 02:16:36.239
I used to think that Petty pieced out, Uh just
2509
02:16:36.399 --> 02:16:40.559
just retired and pieced out. But after watching that document
2510
02:16:40.559 --> 02:16:42.879
I've watched it three or four times. He was he
2511
02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:45.920
he was a tough motherfucker. He was not someone who
2512
02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:49.239
was told what to do. And uh and I think
2513
02:16:49.319 --> 02:16:51.559
I think I think they they they may have taken
2514
02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:53.120
care of him for not playing.
2515
02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:55.840
I love what he told Stevin Nix and she wanted
2516
02:16:55.840 --> 02:16:57.319
to be part of the heartbreaks, and he's like, there's
2517
02:16:57.360 --> 02:16:58.399
no living in the heartbreak.
2518
02:16:58.479 --> 02:16:59.360
There was a heartbreaker.
2519
02:17:00.520 --> 02:17:04.760
That's awesome. It's just that he's awesome. But yeah, I'll
2520
02:17:04.799 --> 02:17:06.760
have to I'll have to find it. You happen to
2521
02:17:06.840 --> 02:17:08.000
know the name off the top of your head.
2522
02:17:08.440 --> 02:17:10.680
Here, I'll find it for you, because yeah.
2523
02:17:10.520 --> 02:17:12.639
I'll watch that ship. I'll start it tonight.
2524
02:17:14.840 --> 02:17:18.280
Right in four hours, you could watch eight self Park episodes.
2525
02:17:19.040 --> 02:17:20.399
I know, that's the problem.
2526
02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:23.559
Got to quantify it there. I think Tom Petty's worth
2527
02:17:23.600 --> 02:17:25.280
sacrificing some Self Park hours.
2528
02:17:25.680 --> 02:17:27.760
Yeah. Well, I don't watch much TV, but when I do,
2529
02:17:27.799 --> 02:17:31.239
it's usually something stupid like South Park or Sons of Anarchy. Lately,
2530
02:17:31.479 --> 02:17:34.680
great show running Down a Dream, Running down a Dream.
2531
02:17:34.680 --> 02:17:37.879
It's called that kind of hold that thought, running down
2532
02:17:37.959 --> 02:17:42.040
a dream. But yeah, I dude, this is These are
2533
02:17:42.040 --> 02:17:42.959
always fun episodes.
2534
02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:46.280
Man. Fantastic fantastic book.
2535
02:17:46.760 --> 02:17:51.440
Oh nice, Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm a nerd with
2536
02:17:51.520 --> 02:17:53.319
like autographs and stuff. I need to try and find
2537
02:17:53.360 --> 02:17:55.680
some autographs of that, dude. I'm sure that they're expensive,
2538
02:17:55.760 --> 02:18:00.399
but I got all kinds of autographs of random things. Man.
2539
02:18:00.559 --> 02:18:03.879
Mike Campbell just came through Nashville not that long ago
2540
02:18:04.239 --> 02:18:08.520
with his band, and I couldn't get there. Playing a
2541
02:18:08.559 --> 02:18:11.200
pretty small place and it was one of those places where, like,
2542
02:18:11.280 --> 02:18:13.440
you know, you pretty much guaranteed you're gonna get to
2543
02:18:13.479 --> 02:18:17.239
say hi, you know, And I just I actually just
2544
02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:19.719
saw in that same place I a week or so ago.
2545
02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:22.600
I don't know if any of y'all are in Excess fans,
2546
02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:27.479
but a huge in excess fan. And uh Andrew Ferris,
2547
02:18:27.799 --> 02:18:31.440
you know the they're the three Ferris brothers that pretty
2548
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:34.520
much did all the music, and Michael Hutchins wrote wrote
2549
02:18:34.559 --> 02:18:36.920
the words, but Andrew Ferris, of those three brothers, he
2550
02:18:37.040 --> 02:18:40.879
wrote ninety percent of in Excess songs. And he did
2551
02:18:40.959 --> 02:18:45.040
a just real quiet little gig here in Nashville about
2552
02:18:45.040 --> 02:18:47.799
a week and a half ago, and there, I bet
2553
02:18:47.879 --> 02:18:51.879
you there was seventy five people there. And uh, and
2554
02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:55.239
I right before he started, I went and went and
2555
02:18:55.360 --> 02:18:58.000
used the bathroom. And the bathroom was way far at
2556
02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:00.319
the other end of the place, and it was empty anyways.
2557
02:19:00.360 --> 02:19:03.600
And so I'm in there by by myself and washing
2558
02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:06.719
my hands, and out of the stall comes Andrew. It's
2559
02:19:06.840 --> 02:19:09.280
just me and him in the in this big, cavernous,
2560
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:11.879
lonely bathroom hat and I kind of I kind of
2561
02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:14.440
had a little like starstruck moment. I was, I, dude,
2562
02:19:15.200 --> 02:19:17.639
this is really uncomfortable and I'm not gonna want to
2563
02:19:17.639 --> 02:19:22.319
shake I know you don't shake it. But I'm blessed
2564
02:19:22.319 --> 02:19:24.200
to be here. And it's just an honor to to
2565
02:19:24.719 --> 02:19:26.479
to get to see you. And he was like, all right, man,
2566
02:19:26.600 --> 02:19:28.360
He's like, I'll give you a left handed handshake and
2567
02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:32.040
in his great Australian accent and fantastic.
2568
02:19:33.399 --> 02:19:36.639
So you get to see like the greats just walking
2569
02:19:36.719 --> 02:19:40.920
around sometimes in Nashville because I love country music, so
2570
02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:42.000
just curious.
2571
02:19:42.479 --> 02:19:47.319
The cool thing about Nashville is good, bad or otherwise.
2572
02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:55.200
There are so many like just legendary people. It's it's
2573
02:19:55.319 --> 02:20:00.559
not like it's not a big deal to see someone
2574
02:20:01.239 --> 02:20:03.760
now if you are new to the area, it is.
2575
02:20:04.200 --> 02:20:06.200
But for the people that live have lived here a while,
2576
02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:08.399
it's not. And and I used to do you remember
2577
02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:12.799
Tower Records that the store Tower Records, big huge record
2578
02:20:12.840 --> 02:20:16.879
store chain. Anyways, I I I used to. I used
2579
02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:19.799
to manage one back in the day here in Nashville.
2580
02:20:20.360 --> 02:20:23.559
And Garth Brooks used to come in on the regular.
2581
02:20:23.799 --> 02:20:27.600
And oh, he's from Oklahoma that my sister lives in
2582
02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:30.639
his city they have everywhere.
2583
02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:32.920
Yeah, and he's he's also got a residence up up
2584
02:20:32.959 --> 02:20:36.680
in Hendersonville here north of Nashville. And but yeah, but
2585
02:20:36.840 --> 02:20:40.319
his main main residence is he's he's Oklahoma based, but
2586
02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:42.799
he's in you know, he's in Nashville quite a bit, and.
2587
02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:45.920
There's a theory that he's like a fucking serial killer
2588
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:46.479
or something.
2589
02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:51.879
Yeah, I've heard that. I yeah, I don't know about that.
2590
02:20:51.959 --> 02:20:53.520
Probably the real smile.
2591
02:20:54.120 --> 02:20:56.639
Yeah, it's it's interesting he got pegged on that. Yet
2592
02:20:56.680 --> 02:20:59.840
Dolly Parton can fund the Magage abs and she gets away,
2593
02:21:00.079 --> 02:21:00.479
got free.
2594
02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.200
That's a stop serial killing.
2595
02:21:03.799 --> 02:21:06.280
Yeah, that's corporately.
2596
02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:10.319
You used to used to you told me on the
2597
02:21:10.479 --> 02:21:13.200
last time the three of us got together. You talked
2598
02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:16.000
about running into Johnny Cash there near the end of
2599
02:21:16.079 --> 02:21:17.360
his life at that record store.
2600
02:21:17.440 --> 02:21:21.760
Yeah. Oh yeah, he coupled and in fact we okay,
2601
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:26.040
Johnny Cash's daughter, Roseanne Roseanne Cash, she was married to
2602
02:21:26.120 --> 02:21:30.079
Rodney Crowell, another country music so power country music power
2603
02:21:30.120 --> 02:21:32.760
couple of the seventies, and they had three daughters. And
2604
02:21:32.959 --> 02:21:36.200
one of their daughters, so that would be Johnny's granddaughter,
2605
02:21:37.760 --> 02:21:41.040
had some had some problems earlier in life with some
2606
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:44.440
substance abuse and all, and was getting her life back together.
2607
02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:47.040
And Johnny asked us at the store if we could
2608
02:21:47.440 --> 02:21:49.239
put her to, you know, give give her a because
2609
02:21:49.280 --> 02:21:51.520
because he he'd come in quite a bit and I
2610
02:21:51.559 --> 02:21:54.079
think he liked the vibe there, and he certainly knew
2611
02:21:54.079 --> 02:21:56.639
the people and try I think semi trusted the people.
2612
02:21:57.040 --> 02:21:59.559
And he wanted his he wanted his granddaughter to kind
2613
02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:01.520
of get back on her feet, and so he asked
2614
02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:04.600
if we could hire her. And so we, uh we
2615
02:22:04.840 --> 02:22:06.559
we hired her and and and put her to work,
2616
02:22:06.639 --> 02:22:08.840
and she and I ended up writing some writing some
2617
02:22:08.959 --> 02:22:12.360
music together, and and uh spending some time out you know,
2618
02:22:12.799 --> 02:22:14.760
at what John and you know, at the time, John
2619
02:22:14.799 --> 02:22:16.840
and June were both still alive and and and and
2620
02:22:16.959 --> 02:22:20.159
went out there to their place and and uh, now,
2621
02:22:20.239 --> 02:22:22.959
the Cash family is an interesting that there's a lot
2622
02:22:23.079 --> 02:22:26.280
been a lot of turmoil in that family. But Johnny,
2623
02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:30.120
Johnny was always just a just a real kind of
2624
02:22:30.159 --> 02:22:35.920
a grandfather. He type just just a sweet, towering grandfather.
2625
02:22:35.440 --> 02:22:35.840
Of a guy.
2626
02:22:36.040 --> 02:22:38.920
You know, Well, do you think, because like we obviously
2627
02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:41.639
talk about Laurel Canyon, but I'm sure there's a Laurel
2628
02:22:41.719 --> 02:22:44.440
Canyon of the country music scene with Johnny Cash and
2629
02:22:44.600 --> 02:22:47.440
like Jerry Lee Lewis and all them. Oh, oh my god,
2630
02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:51.479
a Laurel Canyon of like nineties country too, if I'm
2631
02:22:51.639 --> 02:22:55.040
just being honest, and I love nineties country, but I'm
2632
02:22:55.079 --> 02:22:57.680
sure some of the assholes were up to fucking no good,
2633
02:22:57.719 --> 02:23:00.200
but nobody really ever talks about it because K Tree
2634
02:23:00.280 --> 02:23:04.360
is supposed to be like the good Christian clean Yeah,
2635
02:23:04.639 --> 02:23:07.319
but I'm sure it's just as convoluted as Laurel Canyon
2636
02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:08.479
if you really dug into it.
2637
02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:11.920
Yeah, and you know, there's there's I think I think
2638
02:23:12.040 --> 02:23:20.719
that any any mainstream entertainment brand or cast of characters
2639
02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:24.360
has got Sheananigan's attached to it because.
2640
02:23:24.200 --> 02:23:26.280
Wasn't Elvis didn't he come out of Memphis?
2641
02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:28.000
Yeah?
2642
02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:31.079
Yeah, So I think a lot of it comes from
2643
02:23:31.159 --> 02:23:33.559
the rock scene more and it's more high profile because
2644
02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:36.079
that's the counterculture, Like rock and roll is supposed to
2645
02:23:36.120 --> 02:23:38.920
be counterculture, right, and I don't think country music is
2646
02:23:38.959 --> 02:23:41.360
supposed to be so much, at least back then, right
2647
02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:45.079
like rock was getting a little like it started off
2648
02:23:45.079 --> 02:23:46.959
a little bit weird, right like we even going back
2649
02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:49.360
to the Beatles, like everyone was like, oh no, you
2650
02:23:49.399 --> 02:23:52.360
shouldn't be listening to this stuff. It was like completely
2651
02:23:52.399 --> 02:23:54.280
different music that you're supposed to be listening to.
2652
02:23:54.879 --> 02:23:58.239
Well now, but you know, now the country artists of
2653
02:23:58.319 --> 02:24:02.959
today are super counter culture, like like Beyonce and post Malone.
2654
02:24:04.879 --> 02:24:07.440
Oh yeah, you had me for a second there, yea
2655
02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:10.639
even like jelly roll, right, like jelly roll, this dude
2656
02:24:12.280 --> 02:24:15.399
jelly like meant to be counterculture, and I don't think
2657
02:24:15.399 --> 02:24:17.319
he really is. You know, I love you.
2658
02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:19.680
He's jelly rolls from from here.
2659
02:24:19.719 --> 02:24:20.399
In fact, a.
2660
02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:24.760
Guy that a guy that lives not too far from
2661
02:24:25.360 --> 02:24:27.680
my little town. He was actually the guy that that
2662
02:24:27.799 --> 02:24:30.000
found jelly roll and kind of got him on his
2663
02:24:30.520 --> 02:24:33.520
got him on his way. But no, he's a there.
2664
02:24:33.639 --> 02:24:38.879
There is a good example of someone who I can
2665
02:24:38.959 --> 02:24:41.239
tell you, at least at this point, that's a that
2666
02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:42.479
was real person.
2667
02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:45.440
No, I think, yeah, I think he is. But yeah,
2668
02:24:45.479 --> 02:24:47.200
it's just it's interesting that that's kind of what the
2669
02:24:47.239 --> 02:24:51.600
counterculture is right now, like Trump movement.
2670
02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:55.280
I was gonna say, I don't Scott free, even though
2671
02:24:55.319 --> 02:24:58.360
a lot of people are on like the we love
2672
02:24:58.440 --> 02:24:59.760
jelly roll thing right now.
2673
02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:04.799
Yeah, but it's the flavor of the you're supposed to
2674
02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:06.680
like it, like it, you know, it's one of the
2675
02:25:06.799 --> 02:25:10.559
things that's you know you that was very very the
2676
02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:16.680
powers behind that brand gonna make that a major brand.
2677
02:25:16.840 --> 02:25:19.040
That that was the deal that he signed on for.
2678
02:25:20.520 --> 02:25:22.360
Yeah, man, I think that dude is like a it's
2679
02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:26.040
like a practicing magician of some kind, like he's he's
2680
02:25:26.319 --> 02:25:29.719
very familiar with like energies. And because I watched his
2681
02:25:29.840 --> 02:25:32.159
documentary it was on Hulu, it was a big, major thing.
2682
02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:35.159
But like I said, I don't get emotional about much
2683
02:25:35.319 --> 02:25:37.639
at all. And I almost cried a couple of times
2684
02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:39.719
watching this dude talk to people, just because he's very
2685
02:25:39.879 --> 02:25:44.879
good at, like, you know, medilating emotion. Can you can
2686
02:25:45.040 --> 02:25:47.319
hear one of his songs, and me and my my
2687
02:25:47.440 --> 02:25:49.280
dad loves him. So we went and saw him and uh,
2688
02:25:50.239 --> 02:25:52.040
someone else, I forget who it was. They just toured
2689
02:25:52.120 --> 02:25:55.040
not too long ago. And yeah, man, he's he's got
2690
02:25:55.079 --> 02:25:57.520
a powerful voice. I mean. But yeah, when that dude
2691
02:25:57.600 --> 02:25:59.239
talks to people, and like you sit there and you
2692
02:25:59.280 --> 02:26:01.360
see him crying, it makes you want to join him
2693
02:26:01.479 --> 02:26:03.360
and just cry with him for no reason. And it's
2694
02:26:03.399 --> 02:26:03.920
fucking weird.
2695
02:26:03.959 --> 02:26:10.319
Man. The ability the ability to vessel is a good word, uh,
2696
02:26:11.360 --> 02:26:14.799
but the ability to connect with people, that's a special ability.
2697
02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:17.920
And and people that have it and want to get
2698
02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:22.840
into public work entertainment in particular, the ones that are
2699
02:26:22.879 --> 02:26:25.360
really really good at it, they're the ones that the
2700
02:26:25.559 --> 02:26:27.719
the the powers that shouldn't be are going to come
2701
02:26:28.280 --> 02:26:30.040
come a call in at some point and there and
2702
02:26:30.079 --> 02:26:32.479
then and they're gonna They're gonna want to have a talk,
2703
02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:37.840
and I'm gonna want to please no, not ice cubean
2704
02:26:38.079 --> 02:26:40.159
Tom Petty. Let's let's let's say you.
2705
02:26:41.159 --> 02:26:44.399
I thought it was very poetic and ironic that we
2706
02:26:44.520 --> 02:26:47.159
all kind of agreed that, like morrisy is all we
2707
02:26:47.280 --> 02:26:47.680
got now.
2708
02:26:48.639 --> 02:26:51.360
I just saw Morcy I just saw about a month ago.
2709
02:26:52.159 --> 02:26:52.799
So good.
2710
02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:54.680
Oh, it's like a I was like a fourteen year
2711
02:26:54.680 --> 02:26:57.280
old girl at that show. I was so happy to
2712
02:26:57.360 --> 02:27:00.639
be there. He's he's so he's so awesome, man, what what?
2713
02:27:00.760 --> 02:27:00.799
What?
2714
02:27:01.120 --> 02:27:03.959
What an awesome sassy old queen? He is.
2715
02:27:05.479 --> 02:27:07.040
Not even gonna lie. I don't even know who that is?
2716
02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:10.479
Who is you know the Smiths saying like, is it
2717
02:27:10.639 --> 02:27:12.440
called how Soon? Is now their big hit?
2718
02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:15.319
They've had so many? Yeah, queen is dead.
2719
02:27:16.559 --> 02:27:18.760
I mean probably if I heard it man, to be honest,
2720
02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:21.879
but yeah, I do not know who that is the Smiths.
2721
02:27:22.000 --> 02:27:24.319
But he's got quite a huge solo career as well.
2722
02:27:24.479 --> 02:27:27.559
But way back in the early eighties, there was this
2723
02:27:27.719 --> 02:27:31.319
band called and they were pretty big. We all all
2724
02:27:31.600 --> 02:27:32.799
kids them back then.
2725
02:27:33.159 --> 02:27:35.959
I love Johnny mar too, like that fucking guitar. I
2726
02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:39.159
mean he joined Marinas Mouse and changed their sound.
2727
02:27:39.239 --> 02:27:41.680
But yeah, about about a year and a half ago,
2728
02:27:41.799 --> 02:27:44.040
my wife and I went and saw The Killers. And
2729
02:27:44.200 --> 02:27:46.559
I do not go in and seeing arena shows, but
2730
02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:49.159
we saw The Killers and Johnny Marr opened up for
2731
02:27:49.799 --> 02:27:52.879
Oh Nice, and half of the set was Smith's songs,
2732
02:27:53.079 --> 02:27:55.559
and it was I have to admit, as an old dude,
2733
02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:58.520
it was pretty awesome listening to an arena full of
2734
02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:01.680
people sing sing those songs, you know, and there's nobody
2735
02:28:01.719 --> 02:28:04.200
in the crowd that was under the age of forty.
2736
02:28:04.520 --> 02:28:04.639
You know.
2737
02:28:06.840 --> 02:28:09.040
It's goods. Concerts are probably some of the best stuff.
2738
02:28:11.079 --> 02:28:15.239
Well, guys, we're creeping up past two and a half hours.
2739
02:28:16.840 --> 02:28:20.760
I'll go around the house here. Any any thought, closing
2740
02:28:20.879 --> 02:28:23.399
thoughts or stuff you wanted to interject earlier that you
2741
02:28:23.440 --> 02:28:25.719
did weren't able to. I'll start with ladies first. I'll
2742
02:28:25.719 --> 02:28:28.440
start with Julia, then we'll go Ryan, and then we'll
2743
02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:29.399
close out with John.
2744
02:28:30.360 --> 02:28:33.520
I don't really have anything else about some of the
2745
02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:36.719
topics we were talking about, but I do want John
2746
02:28:36.799 --> 02:28:38.520
to come on my show because I feel like we
2747
02:28:38.559 --> 02:28:44.239
could really get down on some healthcare stuff. And yeah,
2748
02:28:44.319 --> 02:28:46.920
I think we could, we could talk more in depth
2749
02:28:47.559 --> 02:28:50.680
in another episode, just on like health stuff, because it
2750
02:28:50.920 --> 02:28:54.680
really interests me. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea,
2751
02:28:54.760 --> 02:28:58.680
but I have been looking into a lot of stuff myself,
2752
02:28:58.879 --> 02:29:01.680
especially like I said, with my mom having cancer, and
2753
02:29:01.959 --> 02:29:04.120
I have a ton of theories that I would love
2754
02:29:04.200 --> 02:29:05.639
to run past you on some of that.
2755
02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:09.319
So you'd say, say, other word, I'm a little shy
2756
02:29:09.319 --> 02:29:10.840
and it's hard to get me to talk but once.
2757
02:29:13.159 --> 02:29:15.760
But yeah, I know, I I have.
2758
02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:19.239
Really enjoyed our conversation today. I think it was a
2759
02:29:19.360 --> 02:29:19.879
great time.
2760
02:29:22.000 --> 02:29:22.200
Ryan.
2761
02:29:22.879 --> 02:29:27.360
Yeah, yeah, conversation. I agree with everything that Julia said
2762
02:29:27.360 --> 02:29:29.399
as far as the conversation being great. It's always nice
2763
02:29:29.440 --> 02:29:31.840
to connect with you Colby and then John, you know,
2764
02:29:32.120 --> 02:29:34.440
only talking about once a year, but you know, two
2765
02:29:34.520 --> 02:29:37.000
years in a row, and it's been awesome both times.
2766
02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:40.639
It's it's make it more like six months next time. Yeah,
2767
02:29:40.840 --> 02:29:44.360
I mean in the summer, right, Yeah.
2768
02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:51.600
Yeah, it's very fun And I learned a lot talking
2769
02:29:51.639 --> 02:29:53.399
to both of you guys, and then obviously Julia too
2770
02:29:53.479 --> 02:29:56.000
learned a lot talking with you. And yeah, I'm not
2771
02:29:56.079 --> 02:29:58.680
doing as much content these days, but we do do
2772
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:00.719
the weekly news show me and my friend Ghosts from
2773
02:30:00.719 --> 02:30:04.200
my Third Day podcast. People sending clips and we share
2774
02:30:04.239 --> 02:30:07.079
those and talk about them. Usually talk about some food
2775
02:30:07.120 --> 02:30:08.799
and some other bullshit, and it's just kind of a
2776
02:30:08.959 --> 02:30:12.479
chill little chat that we have, you know, talking about
2777
02:30:12.520 --> 02:30:17.040
snoos and other shows. It's Conspiracy Underground News Team, you know,
2778
02:30:17.440 --> 02:30:18.000
but you can.
2779
02:30:19.879 --> 02:30:20.000
You know.
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The acronym is Kunt Spirity Underground News Team. It's the
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02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:27.600
show called Cunt. Everyone loves it. But yeah, I'm looking
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02:30:27.600 --> 02:30:29.920
at it, getting more into more episodes. I'm actually working
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on a Disturbing Toys episode. You know that there's a
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company called Lissi that made a nine to eleven pez
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02:30:37.239 --> 02:30:41.399
dispenser type thing. Oh my god, it's two towers and
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02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:44.559
a plane. There's there's all kinds of fucked up toys
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02:30:44.639 --> 02:30:46.559
that are out there, and so I'm getting into that,
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02:30:47.360 --> 02:30:49.399
trying to get back into doing like the solo content
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02:30:49.479 --> 02:30:54.280
more and more. So you find me a Dangerous World podcast.
2790
02:30:55.040 --> 02:30:58.079
Dangerous were so modest with your plugs, dude.
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Yeah, well I don't. I don't do as much these days, man,
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I've really been I used to do like four or
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five episodes a week, and now I'm just doing the
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02:31:04.799 --> 02:31:06.520
one so I'm trying to get back more into it
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02:31:06.559 --> 02:31:08.639
because you know, the ad revenue has gone down and
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02:31:08.680 --> 02:31:10.360
all that stuff. So I'm trying to, you know, break
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02:31:10.440 --> 02:31:12.319
back in more. So we'll get there.
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You can hit me up anytime, Ryan, Cool, Yeah, I will.
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02:31:18.280 --> 02:31:20.799
Yeah, that's always fun. So yeah, thank you all the time.
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02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:23.559
Job Now she's a podcast about it.
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Yep, that's dope. That is fun.
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Yeah.
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No, I will definitely hit Chipson, Julia.
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All right, John, Last, but certainly not least wrap it
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up in a pretty little bow and plug anything you
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got going these days.
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02:31:38.840 --> 02:31:41.920
Well, I'm not here to plug anything in particular. I
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02:31:42.040 --> 02:31:44.600
just always appreciate the conversation and I think, you know,
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like I think it is. I would I would ask
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the listeners and the viewers, those that have hung in
2811
02:31:51.319 --> 02:31:55.719
this far, first of all, thank you. Secondly, a lot
2812
02:31:55.799 --> 02:31:58.920
of times when you hear people talking about the topics
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02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:03.159
like we talked about on this episode, some of this
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02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:07.479
stuff is so we taught. It might sound matter of fact,
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02:32:09.120 --> 02:32:15.399
but I want more people. I want I want to
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02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.920
get I'd like to get rid of the word conspiracy,
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02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:22.879
because the word conspiracy in itself is a conspiracy. Yeah,
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02:32:22.879 --> 02:32:25.719
I mean that wasn't even really used until the JFK
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02:32:26.520 --> 02:32:31.239
is a prouder film thing. But anyways, it's it's it's showbiz.
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It's it's showbiz. And these are actors and they're being
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02:32:36.079 --> 02:32:38.719
paid to do a job, and they're doing that job.
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02:32:39.520 --> 02:32:46.840
And be more open to the fact that actors exist
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02:32:48.280 --> 02:32:53.159
and these narratives are storylines, and they are being paid
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02:32:53.200 --> 02:32:57.239
to do what they're told. And you might think that
2825
02:32:57.360 --> 02:33:01.719
that's conspiratorial, but being an actor is a trade that's
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02:33:01.719 --> 02:33:04.000
been around for a long time and it's not going anywhere,
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02:33:04.079 --> 02:33:07.000
and there will always be actors, there will always be storylines.
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And as long as people are glued to their screens
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and electronic devices and taking their cues from those screens
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02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:20.040
and those electronic devices, that's really what most people's view
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02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:22.559
of the world is is what their screens and their
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02:33:22.559 --> 02:33:27.319
electronic devices are telling them. And these aren't sovereign devices.
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02:33:27.440 --> 02:33:30.760
These devices are are they're made by companies. They know
2834
02:33:30.920 --> 02:33:34.920
exactly what they're doing, they know what they're allowing you
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02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:37.639
to see, what they're allowing you to hear, and.
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Just be I don't know.
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02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:42.479
Again, I'd like to get rid of the use of
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the word conspiracy.
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And and and and and do you think I should
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02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:47.479
change the name of my show?
2841
02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:50.559
No, no, no, because because that's a good use. That's
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02:33:50.600 --> 02:33:54.040
a good use of because it pull it pulls, it
2843
02:33:54.079 --> 02:33:56.680
pulls in the right audience. But when we're talking about
2844
02:33:56.840 --> 02:33:59.559
like things like you know, oh, the Taylor Swift that
2845
02:33:59.760 --> 02:34:01.559
was on stage the other night might not be the
2846
02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:07.680
original Taylor Swift, that's not conspiratorial. That's showbiz. That's show buzy.
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02:34:08.159 --> 02:34:11.280
And you know, anyone that's run a business and had
2848
02:34:11.319 --> 02:34:14.719
to deal with employees knows that you you've got shifts
2849
02:34:14.799 --> 02:34:17.719
to cover, and you've got positions that need filled, and
2850
02:34:17.840 --> 02:34:21.120
you've got tasks that need to be done. And it's uh,
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02:34:21.239 --> 02:34:23.760
it works good when you find willing participants who are
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02:34:24.840 --> 02:34:26.719
good at their job and willing to do that job.
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02:34:26.799 --> 02:34:30.760
And it's no different in the entertainment industry. And if
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02:34:30.799 --> 02:34:34.120
it's coming off of your screens, it's all entertainment.
2855
02:34:34.760 --> 02:34:38.520
Well, Colby is a crisis actor. He plays a great
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02:34:38.639 --> 02:34:42.280
rape victim there.
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I don't know that I want to know the backstory
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02:34:46.239 --> 02:34:48.639
to that, but he's smiling. Let's just leave it at that.
2859
02:34:50.000 --> 02:34:51.920
I'm curious about the backstory myself.
2860
02:34:53.840 --> 02:34:55.680
Oh it sounds like sounds like you might be.
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02:34:57.920 --> 02:35:01.680
MK Ultra sponsored because as he played that, So John,
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02:35:01.719 --> 02:35:03.520
you don't want to plug anything. I'm not going to
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02:35:03.559 --> 02:35:03.959
force you.
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02:35:04.719 --> 02:35:06.879
No, you know, I'll tell you what you want you
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02:35:07.440 --> 02:35:10.799
I I if if you can see the screen, you
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02:35:10.879 --> 02:35:13.000
know you see the naturally better for you dot com
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02:35:13.319 --> 02:35:16.120
U r L. That is a now that is pure
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02:35:16.559 --> 02:35:20.760
health and wellness knowledge share right there. So we're not
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02:35:20.879 --> 02:35:24.239
talking about the shape of the earth or Taylor Swift
2870
02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:26.079
stand ins or any of that kind of stuff. There's
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02:35:26.159 --> 02:35:31.360
pure health and wellness. And when I am not diving
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02:35:31.440 --> 02:35:35.000
down rabbit holes, which I love to do, I'm I'm
2873
02:35:36.559 --> 02:35:38.879
and because of some of the rabbit holes I've dug down,
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02:35:38.879 --> 02:35:41.280
I'm just my heart is in health and wellness. I
2875
02:35:41.360 --> 02:35:43.920
want I want to see my wife get better. I
2876
02:35:44.040 --> 02:35:48.079
want to see other people who have problems not to
2877
02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:52.959
turn to the uh the medical industrial complex. We we
2878
02:35:53.120 --> 02:35:55.680
we know not to look to the fast food industry
2879
02:35:55.799 --> 02:35:59.879
for our nutrition. Well. I would like to get people
2880
02:36:00.079 --> 02:36:02.639
in the mindset that the medical industrial complex is kind
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02:36:02.639 --> 02:36:04.840
of like the fast food industry of health and wellness.
2882
02:36:04.879 --> 02:36:07.520
And so if we know to stay away from fast food,
2883
02:36:07.639 --> 02:36:10.520
we'll stay away from fast food. And and so if
2884
02:36:10.559 --> 02:36:13.120
you're interested in any of that kind of stuff, go
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02:36:13.200 --> 02:36:16.239
to Naturallybetter for you dot com. And that's that's kind
2886
02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:20.200
of what I do with my spare time. Just I try.
2887
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:22.440
There's there's some good people that I'm involved with. There,
2888
02:36:23.000 --> 02:36:26.159
there's a good community of people and a huge knowledge
2889
02:36:26.200 --> 02:36:30.280
share and we there there there there is a we
2890
02:36:30.399 --> 02:36:34.159
want to see everybody live a better life naturally and
2891
02:36:34.559 --> 02:36:36.920
so so if that resonates with you, go there. But
2892
02:36:37.760 --> 02:36:40.520
that's about as much of a pitch as as I
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02:36:40.680 --> 02:36:41.079
care to do.
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02:36:41.959 --> 02:36:44.000
All right, Well, that's all. That's all we want to hear.
2895
02:36:44.120 --> 02:36:48.799
And I think that angle uh, I mean it's not
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02:36:48.920 --> 02:36:52.399
conspiratorial and necessarily but we all know about the medical
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02:36:52.479 --> 02:36:57.079
industrial complex. Ryan and John both use those terms, and
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02:36:58.000 --> 02:37:00.719
I think, yes, during more people words, what you've got
2899
02:37:00.760 --> 02:37:04.280
going on over there is very important or or you
2900
02:37:04.360 --> 02:37:04.719
know what you.
2901
02:37:04.760 --> 02:37:07.600
Know it's it's been said many many times. You know
2902
02:37:07.719 --> 02:37:11.760
your your your medicine cabinet is actually your kitchen. So
2903
02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:16.200
start taking that seriously. Yeah, I don't I don't know
2904
02:37:16.239 --> 02:37:19.399
why people choose to offload the responsibility of their health
2905
02:37:19.440 --> 02:37:22.000
and wellness to a corporate government entity, but you know
2906
02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:24.760
it could start in your kitchen. There's your medicine cabinet.
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02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:27.200
Start taking it seriously. And I hope that, you know,
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02:37:27.280 --> 02:37:29.319
I hope that we get to a place someday soon
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02:37:29.360 --> 02:37:33.120
where people walk into your average American grocery store and
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02:37:33.159 --> 02:37:36.000
I hope they're offended by what they see, because all
2911
02:37:36.040 --> 02:37:39.079
it is is like food, porns, just sugar and carbs
2912
02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:42.840
and crab and oh gross, seed oils and shit. There's
2913
02:37:42.920 --> 02:37:47.600
there's hardly anything edible inside most grocery stores. It's not food,
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02:37:47.680 --> 02:37:52.159
it's feed. And you know, food is stuff in its
2915
02:37:52.239 --> 02:37:55.680
natural form, and it's hard to find some natural stuff,
2916
02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:58.920
even even in the best grocery stores, you know, even
2917
02:37:59.040 --> 02:38:01.440
even in the produce sect, and try and find, you know,
2918
02:38:01.639 --> 02:38:04.959
produce that hasn't been sprayed with shit or grown in
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02:38:05.159 --> 02:38:09.120
toxic chemically shit, or packaged and shit. I mean, it's
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02:38:10.040 --> 02:38:12.959
the only tomato you can trust is the tomato that
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02:38:13.079 --> 02:38:15.479
you or somebody you knew, group you know, and so
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02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:18.520
eat those tomatoes. Don't buy them from corporate sources. You know.
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02:38:21.959 --> 02:38:22.000
That.
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02:38:22.280 --> 02:38:26.719
Well, I'm going to end this recording. Thank you, conspiracy players.
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02:38:27.239 --> 02:38:29.680
Be sure to wash behind your ears and grow your
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02:38:29.680 --> 02:38:33.040
own tomatoes, and I think everything will be all right
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