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Hello and welcome to Corner to Corner.
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I'm Caden.
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What's good?
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It's your boy Complex, and what a weekend of boxing.
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We had two monsters hit the land on other sides of the world.
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Shout out to anyway.
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Shout out to Benavidez.
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Hide your kids.
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Had your wife.
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The monsters are loose.
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Damn.
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I don't believe in monsters.
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Unless it's monsters ain't.
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All right, but um, nah, shout out to anyway and shout out to David Benavidez.
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The question we're asking, did David Benavidez enter the pound-for-pound list and take over Senko de Mayo with his victory over Zordo Ramirez?
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Because that was Canelo Alvarez Day.
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And Canelo Alvarez was in attendance to support Jami Mungia, but he still got to see uh David Benavidez.
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And he actually picked David Benavidez to win the fight.
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Uh, we're gonna take a quick look at the combination that ended the fight, and it was swift, quick, and accurate.
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Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
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Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang.
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And Zoto was like, I dog.
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You know what?
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I'm gonna take this knee and not he's like, which one of y'all hit me?
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He's like, that's just too many, too many hits.
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I was like, that was crazy.
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Before the fight, you saw them go into David Benavidez locker room.
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You saw Iron Mike Tyson there, you saw Roy Jones, Ryan Garcia.
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David Benavidez is becoming your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.
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So complex, what we're what we're asking is did David Benavidez enter the top 10 pound for pound list with his victory because this makes him a champion in another weight class.
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And also, is he officially the guy?
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Like if he says, I want Senko Damayo Canelo has to step aside.
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Yo, I hope so.
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And first off, RIP G, shout out to G.
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G was a big Benavidez fan.
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Yeah, so I know G smiling down right now.
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He's like, I told y'all, I told y'all.
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But um, no, for real, man.
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Look, David Benavidez did the dang thing.
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And well, I'm one, I'm so proud of him because this is a case of if you build it, they will come.
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You know, it's for so long, it seemed like in boxing the only way to make your name was uh to make a name for yourself was to beat somebody else, right?
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And kind of build off of their name.
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And for a long time, obviously, he was um terrorizing the 168-pound division, you know.
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He was he he only lost the belt because of uh, I believe one was a drug case where she was like like cocaine or something, and then the other one where he lost it on the weight scale.
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Yeah, and if people were really questioning him and his his dedication to the sport and things like that.
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Seems like he course-corrected that, got back on track, and since then he has not lost or nothing, has not looked even remotely in trouble, you know, or just he's just been so dominant.
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And um, honestly, uh he should have been on the pound for pound list already, real realistically.
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I mean, as good as he was, like clearly or already at 168, he was pretty much dominating.
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Now, obviously, he got it, he was at a time where Canelo was in the 168-pound division, and Canelo was clearly avoiding him, so he couldn't uh operate within the 168-pound division the way he wanted to because Canelo has scooped up all the belts.
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Um, but he was uh champion um at 168 and he lost the belt.
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I think he took a few more fights there, hoping to get the Canelo fight.
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It never happened.
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He moves up to 174.
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Uh 175, wins another belt, right?
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Becomes champion in two-way classes now.
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Um, still trying to get the big fights.
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No, he's champion in I know at least three.
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Well, no, that's what I'm saying.
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So well, he was he was champion at 168, but he technically lost the belt, and then Canelo won the vacant belt.
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Okay, and then he never got to fight for the belt again.
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So he was technically, yeah, he was he was a two-time champion at 168.
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But he I thought I thought I heard you say he was champion in two weight classes.
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So that's my no sorry, yeah.
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No, well, well, that was his second at that time when he moved up to 175, became a champion in his second weight class, right?
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Champion, um, obviously had the hasn't gotten a chance to fight the big dogs because of you know a lot of boxing politics and things like that, but he's clearly um you know one of the best in the world, then moves up another weight class to 200 pounds and then stops a unified champion.
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I mean, that's he's gotta be like at least top five pound for pound.
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Maybe you can make a case for top three.
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All right, so I mean you you brought us right into a good point.
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So just stop you uh briefly, and then I'll for a second.
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This is ESPN's pound for pound list, Usick number one, no dispute, Naoya NUA, number two, bam Rodriguez number three, um, Shakur Stevenson number four.
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They have David Benavidez at number five.
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Um, so he is in at number five.
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So let's say this does he move up on your list?
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Does he surpass Shakur?
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Uh Jesse Rodriguez in your way with this performance.
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I mean, I think you can make the case because he's done um well, this is the thing.
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This is why I like um what he's done more.
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I would put him at um number three.
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Who do they have?
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Uh Shakur?
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They have uh Jesse Rodriguez at number three.
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Oh bam, bam, yeah.
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Yeah, okay.
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This is the thing, and respect to the way class because I just shot out anyway as well.
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Those guys, when they move up weight classes, it's three pounds, right?
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It's like they go from 112 to 115 to 118 to 122 to 125, something like that, right?
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It's like literally three or one twenty-six, yeah.
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130, 130.
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It's like you move three, four pounds, right?
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So those guys can be multiple time weight champions by the time they've moved up 50, 10, 15 pounds, and they can avoid each other easier, too.
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People don't talk about that, right?
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Because there's a lot more weight classes.
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Oh, I moved up, I moved up, or whatever.
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Yeah, it's like you moved three pounds.
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It's like what we're talking about here, yeah.
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And I get you know, I'm sure people are gonna say, well, there's smaller guys, so that weight matters more fine, whatever.
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But at the end of the day, moving from 175 to 200, it's a big difference because you could see um uh Ramirez uh was a big dude comparatively to um to Benavidez.
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So and the fact that he stopped him, I was even curious, it's like, will he be able to stop him?
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Because I was like, he looks small visibly smaller than him.
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He can't weighed in less.
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So I would move him up.
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So I think that is already they've already updated their pond for pound rankings to include this fight, but I would still I would say he's at least number three because you you you can't be he hasn't lost, right?
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Um, obviously, but then also he's stopping guys, and he's stopping guys bigger, he's moving up.
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I love Shakur and Shakur.
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I think Shakur's a great pure boxer, but like I think Shakur's not had that many dominant, like sometimes Shakur has thinkers in there, you know what I'm saying?
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Like where he's dominating a guy, but it's not that great of a fight or whatever.
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David Benavides has never had a bad fight.
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You can't say that you know David Benavidez is clearly like he's out there to hurt you, and and also if you remember Jake Paul, when he was talking about opponents, he was like, Yeah, one guy wouldn't fight is David Benavidez, and you can see why because Benavides is gonna hurt you, it's not about like uh one big punch or whatever, like David Benavides can put hands in your world and look what it did to uh to Zerto.
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So, shout out to him.
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Then the last point is just the weekend.
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I think he should take over the weekend.
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Um, not saying that you know, obviously Canelo can't come back, but Canelo's kind of already had his run, and Canelo kind of is towards the end of his career.
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I feel like Canelo can try to come back.
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Although Benavidez did call him out at the end of the fight, right?
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And which is you know, whatever.
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And Canelo was in attendance, so now you're watching him.
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You know, I'm saying you you try to box him out.
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Now you're in this in the in the crowd watching him fight, so you know, I see how Rhodes were.
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I mean, yeah, he's there to support Jaime.
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I'm not saying he's at Canelo's level because Canelo was like a is like a mega mega star, but like yeah, I want him to continue this, like yo, set up the fight for um you know September 14, 15, or whatever, keep doing the thing, keep building.
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If you build it, they will come, right?
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And yo, I think his ability to like really take over, um, where he's gonna get to a point where he can go back down to 175, defend there, win there, win more belts there, go back up to 200.
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You know, he has so much more options now.
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So, shout out to David Benavidez, man.
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What a performance!
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All right, first I want to start by addressing the whole Canelo business.
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I actually thought it was great that Canelo was in attendance, and I wish more fighters would do this because some people try to make it an adversarial thing when David Benavidez said he's fighting on Sanco de Mayo.
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And I actually love that he said he's taking a date, he's gonna fight on a date, and I love the fact that Canelo showed up because they're both Mexican at the end of the day.
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And the fact that um Benavidez is gonna fight on Sanco de Mayo, and you have all these uh fighters of Mexican descent putting on a show, it's great for Mexico.
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So they put the main, they made they left the main thing, the main thing, and they went there to have a good night.
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Which I've heard David Benavidez speak about Canelo, and he've called he's called him the P word and said things about him.
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But in this particular uh exchange, when Canelo was there, he he he told what I believe is the truth.
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I have a lot of respect for Canelo.
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He's been great for the sport, but I want my opportunity to face him.
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Excuse me.
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And I do think that David Benavidez has earned the right to face Canelo based on how he built his name up without having to fight Canelo, which was what I was saying he should do from the beginning.
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Because if you're Canelo at this stage in your career, you're chasing the bag.
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You're a bag chaser, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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You fought and you've earned the right.
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So he fought Terrence Bud Crawford, 41 million people watch it on Netflix.
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He secured a lot of money.
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He wasn't gonna get that with David Benavidez.
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But let's say after David Benavidez's performance last night against Ramirez, right?
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Or I should say this morning, really, because that's when they got a ring.
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That's why I'm tired as hell right now.
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But after that performance, if you made Canelo Benavidez, that's a Netflix blockbuster now.
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And this is what I try to tell people when they say, Oh, you're advocating for fighters to duck and dodge.
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No, sometimes you have to invest in a potential blockbuster.
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Like, it's like investing in the market, it's investing.
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You're investing in this, right?
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There's a risk, there's always a risk.
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Someone can lose it, can break.
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Canelo lost to um to Crawford, but he's going back in the ring with Embilie.
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Let's just say Canelo looks good against Mbili.
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And he says, I want Benavidez.
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Now we're talking about another blockbuster on Netflix, and it's all possible because David Benavidez went out to build his own name and he didn't sit back waiting for the Canelo fight, which is what I was advocating for.
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Yeah.
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But but that's that's how you do it, which is what I was advocating for the entire time.
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David Benavidez is a massive risk to Canelo Alvarez.
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And in fact, in the history of boxing, this is the way it's always been, right?
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Um Chavez Sr.
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fought Oscar Delahoya knowing that Oscar was the young upstart, he passed the torch to him.
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This is how you do it.
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You pass the torch.
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So Canelo must pass the torch in the ring if we're going by old school rules.
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But what David Benavidez is saying, I'll take it without you facing me, but I'd rather have the opportunity to share the ring with you and the opportunity to take it.
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So one, I don't have any issues with the way this played out because to me it only made it a bigger fight.
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And it made it a bigger fight because David Benavidez has elevated his profile.
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Speaking of David Benavidez elevating his profile, they have him at top five.
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I agree with you.
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I would put him at number three.
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So Usyk is clearly number one to me.
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Undisputed at cruiserweight, undisputed heavyweight champion.
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Usik is giving away belts so he can try to get him back just to make it interesting.
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Right?
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Inue has done it at multiple weight classes, and he's still going undefeated, talented fighter.
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Bam Rodriguez is slightly below uh inue to me, but where I place Benavidez above Bam is like you said, complex.
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David Benavidez is doing this at a heavier weight.
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He's the first Mexican fighter, or the first boxer of Mexican descent, to do this at the higher weight classes.
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And again, this is more because um usually uh fighters of Mexican descent aren't in those weight classes because their size, they're not usually that big.
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So they're not in that weight class.
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And we're starting to see this, and he's unique and he made history, and so he's he's you know, uh he's creating a new lane.
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And for me, you have to respect that, and it's something that we haven't seen in the sport of boxing.
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We've seen fighters do what BAM has done, has been doing, but David's putting on for fighters of Mexican descent in a new way, in a different way.
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And I and I and I think he's also had he has that it factor where you got Roy Jones, you got Ryan Garcia, you got Mike Tyson, you got celebs in there.
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Because, and look at the way he did uh Ramirez.
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It's not just like you said, he didn't just win.
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He hit him with like the 50-piece uh you know, you you you you you powered up in Street Fighter.
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Now you get a combination and you get to finish up.
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Like that's what that's what he did to Zordo.
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Like you said, Zordo was like, which one of y'all hit me?
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Zordo thought the ref was in on it.
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Like, you know, so you gotta uh give David Benavidez his props.
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So to me, I'd put him in at number three.
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Although number four, I mean number five isn't bad, they have Shakur over him.
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I would put David Benavidez in over Shakur.
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So even if you want to leave Bam, I would put him in over Shakur.
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Although I think Shakur at four or five is right for Shakur, skill-wise.
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But again, we talk about what is the pound for pound list?
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Is the pound for pound list, if they all were in the same weight class, who would win?
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If that's how you look at it, and you want to put Shakur over David Benavidez, fine.
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But I'm gonna be honest with you.
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If Shakur and David Benavidez were in the same weight class, I don't know who would win that fight.
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Skill for skill.
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Because David Benavidez is that skill.
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He just doesn't move, he just stands there and he figures out a way to avoid your onslaught.
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But he doesn't want to move because he wants to be able to hit you with his stuff once you get tired.
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So, anyways, um, to say all that, I I think Benavidez at five is fine, but I would put him at three, four the lowest.
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Um, but five is not that far off.
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Um, if you have him at five, which ESPN does, and their list is updated.
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Um and just to get to Sanco de Mayo.
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I love the fact that there was support.
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You know, and I want that throughout boxing.
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I'm sick of like the there could only be one crap on a guy who loses crap on we don't need that.
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That's not what it's about.
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That's not what the sport's about, that's not what it's about.
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So David Benavidez wants to fight on Sanco de Mayo, cool.
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If Canelo wanted to fight on Sanco de Mayo, it would be dope if they were fighting each other on Sanco de Mayo, but they could also work it out in a way where they could do it and they can both make money off of it.
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Like that would be awesome.
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Imagine Canelo and David Benavidez fighting, and even if they want to do it at different arenas, you can time it so that people can watch the fight or package it so that they can pay for both fights.
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But you don't have to uh make it an adversarial thing.
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So that's what I like about it.
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David Benavidez, he he's done enough to represent on Senko de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day if that's what he wants to do.
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But Canelo has also done that.
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So respect to both of them, gentlemen.
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Now, what do you think about a potential move to heavyweight?
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He was asked about that a lot.
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He did answer it, but what do you think?
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Do you think he could ever hang at heavyweight?
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I think if he's gonna go to heavyweight, he's gonna have to avoid a lot of the punches that he stands there and take right now.
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Like against Zordo, he stood there, he was able to like withstand punches on the forearms, the gloves.
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I don't think he's able to do that at heavyweight.
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When you have like Daniel Dubois as I think if he hits Daniel Dubois and he hits him with a 50 piece, I think I think he's golden, he's good.
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I worry about his defense and these fighters hitting him and the impact it would have on him.
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I'm not gonna write him off, though, because you saw what Holyfield was able to do, you see what Usick was able to do.
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But I will say that he's gonna have to defend himself differently at heavyweight.
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So that that would be my only concern for David Benavidez.
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No, that's a great point.
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Um, I do think he did mention that like he's not gonna do it right now because he still has business, he will score back down to 175 and things like that.
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So he's like if he goes to heavyweight, he will he would never pretty much come back down.
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And we've seen guys who go to heavyweight and then come back down.
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Obviously, Roger's Jr.
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didn't work out that great.
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So if that makes sense, you know what I mean?
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But I do think, and I do think he can be a future heavyweight champion potentially, depending on the right opponent, the right, you know, personnel within the belt or whatever.
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Um is small, he would be small for the heavyweight division.
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Obviously, there's been smaller guys, but he's about six feet.
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He was clearly shorter than uh Zerto, although that didn't matter.
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But um, you know, at heavyweight, there's guys who are like 6'6, 6'7, 6'8, yeah, 6'9, uh, whatever.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, there's guys at multiple um that would be way taller, like a head ahead over him.
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So that's just a different type of fight that I think he'd have to prepare for.
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Who named him the Mexican monster?
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Iron Mike Tyson.
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He's like 5'8, 5'10.
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So true.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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Like, obviously, like I said, there's guys who've been shorter, Mike Tyson, obviously, being a special uh case, I think.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, look, I I I I'm a big, I'm huge on Benavidez.
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Like, he's he's going up, and I'm I'm I'm I'm betting on him.
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Um, yeah, I think this was an amazing performance.
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I kind of had a feeling, and then if he can get something going, oh, we uh the other thing, Jai Alpatay.
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He talked about him, he was asked about him.
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He made some interesting comments.
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He said, you know, Jai is like, well, he's like, I don't know why Jai signed with Zufa, right?
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Like, we could have made this fight next.
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He's like, I'm definitely not going over there to fight for no Zufa belt.
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So he's like, and it seems like Dana White, he's like just from the outside, doesn't really want to work with other promoters, which is all true, which is Dana White, you know what I mean?
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So it's like he's like, I'd be down to fight him, I just don't know like how it's gonna work or whatever, right?
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And that's why I think that he made some really good points.
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I think they they did too much with Jai.
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Oh, the one thing Jai also tweeted enjoy your victory, see you soon.
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So it looks like Jai wants to smoke that.
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Yeah, but I think what I think I think he makes a good point.
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You know, Zufa is kind of still out in the open.
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They don't have they haven't created that the law yet, so they're not officially official, whatever, um, in terms of their UB organization.
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Um, they have a bunch of fighters on the contract.
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Oh, yeah, there's a video.
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I mean, I think that's the biggest fight in the world, especially the weight division.
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You know what I mean?
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That's definitely a fight in the world.
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If you want to see if um, you can make it like I have a decision, you know, but now I don't know if you can show IDF.
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You can't make it five.
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Um if we can go to the week, make a quick five.
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All right.
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So that's the uh that's the video you were uh speaking about conference references, yeah.
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Yeah, so since uh since I saw that, I'll get there.
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So I'm in a conference uh at the hotel, a conference room at the hotel and the lights went off.
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So I'm gonna turn that back on.
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But yeah, uh complex, you could continue real quick.
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I was going to go.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No worries, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But basically, he made some good points.
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And this is the thing.
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I think that Jay's team messed up, uh, they didn't read the contract or whatever, and Zuffa overplayed their hand with him by trying to put the Zufa belt on him right away.
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It was unnecessary.
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He's the IBF champ.
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You could have put on a separate fight, and maybe they because oh, you know, you made all this big deal about well, we're not working with these sanctioned bodies, whatever.
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Like, you still need them at some point, and you know, you just still, especially if that's what your fighter wants.
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Your fighter keeps saying, I want undisputed.
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He doesn't want to be just the Zufa champion, he wants to be the world champion with all the belts, right?
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So you know the not the Zufa world champion, he wants to be the real world champion, and that's the thing, they should have waited until he got other belts or whatever, then they could have played the whole, oh yeah, we don't need them, we're dropping them, whatever.
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He still got the ring belt, which mat which means something, but it kind of doesn't when you got somebody like Benavidez coming in here.
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If Benavides comes in and wins all the other belts without without that, he's clearly you know the undisputed whatever.
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I mean, he doesn't need the ring belt to say that, so um, you know, I I just think um they overplayed their hand with Jai, but I think Jai wants to fight, so hopefully we'll see it.
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That'd be a crazy fight opaya versus uh Benavidez.
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Uh uh, I don't know if they could do that by this September, but at some point, like that's a huge fight.
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I'm speaking for myself.
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I'd rather see Benavidez Baval at 175, and then I'd rather see if Canelo is willing to step in the ring with him to pass the torch.
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I think Benavidez made himself a lucrative fight now to where Canelo can really look at it and say, you know what, it's high risk, but it's also a good reward to fight him.
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I think he's entered that territory now.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true.
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So, I mean, look, Benavidez got a lot of options at either cruiserweight or light heavyweight.
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Um, so shout out to him.
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But look, let us know what y'all think in the comments, man.
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What did y'all think of the fight?
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What did you think of the 30-piece combos he was hitting them with?
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I mean, those look like you took a speed up like in a video game.
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It's like it's like you got the like the magic fruit, and now it's like he was popping them so fast.
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Like, I would be so mad.
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Imagine you train that much in that many months, and then it's like you walk in there and this dude's just popping you like 10 times, like, and that's that's boxing.
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That's boxing, man.
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Crazy, crazy.
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But yo, what do y'all think in the comments?
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What do you think about Benavidez?
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Do you think he runs the gauntlet at Cruiserweight?
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Uh right, heavyweight.
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Is he about to just run roughshot?
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Does he ever go up to heavyweight?
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You know, what do y'all think?
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Let us know in the comments.
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That's caden.
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I'm complex, guys.
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Caden complex corner to corner.
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We see you on the next one.
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The next topic we're going to discuss is Christian Pringa, AJ's next opponent.
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Said AJ made a mistake picking him, hence the rematch clause, because there is a rematch clause.
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We'll get into our take on uh Anthony Joshua's choice of a tune-up fight of everything.
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And but first, let's get to the business.
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This is the Zone Boxing reporting that uh Christian Pringer has promised to ruin Anthony Joshua's plans to fight Tyson Ferry, which has been announced.
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Anthony Joshua's returning on July 25th.
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Uh, and here's what he said, Christian uh Pringer.
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He said he made a terrible miscalculation picking me.
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Okay, so he's speaking with his chest, okay?
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He got the spicy talk going, and that's all good.
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But he's not the only one with the spicy talk.
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Uh his manager was speaking about uh this fight, and this is what uh he had to say as well.
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I really think Joshua's team made a miscalculation here in lining up Pranga, a relatively unknown heavyweight, admittedly.
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Uh a guy who has not been on the world stage, but a guy who's got a tough right hand, a guy who's durable, who can hang in there, and he's gonna steal the thunder that night, shock the world.
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If that does happen, uh is a rematch clause, or would you look to get a fury by on if you if if Christian wins?
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If it happens, we're gonna look, you know.
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You can see the giddiness coming across my face.
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Uh you know, we would look to fight Fury.
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Um there is a rematch clause.
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But um I just think if if Joshua doesn't win this fight, he's finished.
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It's over, fam.
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I really think Joshua's team made a miscalculation.
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Oh, he's speaking out of both sides of his mouth now.
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But anyways, we're gonna listen to what uh Lou de Bella had to say because he was on Ariel Hawani's show, just he was unloading on everyone pause.
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Basically, he was just unfiltered.
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Lou de Bella unfiltered.
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Here's what he had to say about Anthony Joshua versus Christian Prenga.
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I'll give you another thing that doesn't help.
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Christian Prenga doesn't help when you're out there shitting all over TKO for the mediocrity of their product.
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You're out there attacking them.
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They just started, they're not really doing product much different than the ordinary pedestrian shit you're doing on the zone, and you're out there trying to kill them, but then you just made a guy that's we're telling everyone correctly, the possible Hall of Famer.
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I think if if if Joshua beats Fury, he seals it completely.
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Oh, for sure.
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He's a Hall of Famer, and he's probably a Hall of Famer already.
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I mean, he's close.
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I mean, he should probably is.
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I mean, he's he's certainly shouldn't be in the ring with a doorman.
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And that's what Christian Prank is.
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I know him very well.
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I tried to sign him multiple times as an opponent, more as an opponent who sold tickets for Broadway boxing to fight other pedestrian sort of heavyweights that I thought he wouldn't even beat.
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But he was a ticket seller.
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He is a very physically strong, just cock strong dude.
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He's just like a doorman, like a literally a doorman at a nightclub kind of guy.
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But you wouldn't want to be hit flush by him if you weren't looking, the kick and punch if you're if you be slow, but I mean if you if if you don't see him and he telegraphs a punch at you and it lands, he might hurt you.
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But does he belong near Anthony?
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It doesn't belong in the same freaking gym, doesn't belong in the same state or country, doesn't belong in a sparring session.
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In fact, the people around Anthony wouldn't really pick him as a sparring partner against a good heavyweight because he's not going to give you that kind of work.
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You know, he had a lot of knockouts on his record.
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He's got a 21-on-one record, even though he fought Bozo the clowns.
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Um Is there okay?
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So I understand I had mixed feelings about the NFTs.
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That's not a fight, dude.
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No, that's an attraction.
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It's a grace to be had to the fact that he accidentally.
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No, dude, come on, man.
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What about the fact that they told him to fight?
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Or it's not fighting a tune up.
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Why didn't you just fight you, man?
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I'm not an actual fight.
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If you look at his career everywhere, 35 years old.
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Yes.
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Look at his whole career.
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I'm not easy.
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Is it living out fighting?
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No, no.
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It's not a fight.
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It's a tune-up.
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It's not isn't a tune-up.
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What are you tuning up?
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The fuck are you tuning up?
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How are you getting better?
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Fighting a guy that can't fight at all?
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For the record, I hate the fact that we're not getting fury judgments.
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I didn't give a shit about that.
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You know what?
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If he needed, first of all, I don't get the argument he needed to fight Deontay.
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He didn't need to fight just fortunate.
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What the fuck does he have to fight?
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And then he got into a car.
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So what?
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And he almost died.
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Well, well, well, I mean, uh, that's a little bit uh I mean he didn't card to people in the car died, but he wasn't seriously hurt, but that's neither here nor there.
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With his confidence shock because people die.
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What explained to me the no?
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Come on, man, stop it.
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What is what am I talking about?
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He's fighting a hobby.
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I don't want to call Prang a hobo.
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You know what?
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Prang is actually, he will go and he will try.
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If you went to Christian Prang, I actually think Prang is the kind of guy, if he was being honest with you, who's so self-aware, he knows he just hit the lottery.
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Of course.
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What do you think he's getting paid for this, by the way?
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I got probably seven figures.
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I mean, not even close, right?
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Like dude, he hasn't made in this one fight, he's getting more than his entire career.
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What I heard he's getting is what he's getting.
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It's a good deal.
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He's made more in one-tenth of this purse will be higher than the entirety he's ever been paid in his career, basically.
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Wow.
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Or similar.
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He actually is the kind of guy, though, that made a couple of like small, like with a you know, like um club show kind of paydays because he's an Albanian kid with a very big following in the Albanian community.
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Okay.
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And he would sell some tickets in local shows to Albanian kids.
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So he would get like a percentage of ticket sales.
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But in terms of like ever getting a real purse, he never got a television purse.
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Probably I'd be surprised if he ever made more than 10 grand.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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So now he's gonna go to a million bucks.
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And by the way, because not because he earned it in any way, look who he lost to, man.
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Is the issue that he is fighting AJ, that AJ is fighting anyone, or is that the match?
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If you're gonna fight, like there's zero purpose to it.
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No one, you if you can't articulate a purpose to me, it shouldn't be happening.
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There's zero chance of the wrong thing happening unless I don't think AJ shot enough that he's gonna close his eyes in the ring.
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He'd have to not see a punch coming.
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That's Ludabella's breakdown of uh Christian Pringer.
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So uh complex.
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One, did Anthony Joshua make a mistake, a miscalculation?
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Picking uh Christian Prager because Praga's gonna beat him and then try to get Tyson Fury, or is Pranga so trash he doesn't even belong in the same gym in the same state as Anthony Joshua?
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What are you buying?
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And do you think a tune up is necessary?
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That's so funny.
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Shout out to Lizabella, nobody breaks it down like him.
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Um, it's only a mistake in the sense of like nobody wants to watch this.
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When when they announced that, remember I put the Con McGregor meaning, like, who is who the fuck is this guy?
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Who is this guy?
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I've never heard I don't know, I don't know this man, never heard nothing about him, and that's fine.
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But I don't uh me personally, I'm not interested in watching glorified sparring sessions.
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Even even Deontay Wilder, you know, I'm a big Deontay Wilder stand when he fought that guy in Nebraska or whatever.
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I didn't watch, I'm not watching that.
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Who is this guy?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, this isn't a fight, this isn't whatever.
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And then even I watched it afterwards, and I was like, Yeah, exactly right.
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It was a terrible fight, you know.
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Um, but I just think like, you know, it is what it is.
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If you know, I don't know who else he could have fought.
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I think there's probably guys closer to the top 10, top 15, top 20, maybe that could have been a better opponent that he still would have like been able to fight and beat.
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Like the the guy Tyson Ferry fought was like a perfect opponent.
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Guys like big, you know, slow guy, whatever, but he's still like on the kind of world level, he's beating some people and whatever, but you can clearly beat him.
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Um the only thing is like, yeah, if he slips on a banana peel, obviously, if if if AJ goes in there and somehow slips on a banana peel and and hurts himself, or yeah, messes up somehow and gets bopped by this guy randomly, you know what I mean?
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Like a random thing.
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Clearly, that's possible.
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But um, you know, I I think yeah, you should have just gone into the fury fight.
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Like you you did fight recently.
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The whole and and and Lou makes a good case, the whole car the car, not Chase, but car crash thing, like that is like it was a super unfortunate thing.
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But I don't think he was actually hurt.
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Now, obviously, those kind of crashes you can shake up your body and you don't know what, you know, I mean there's things internally that could happen, but it's been enough months away that I would think, like, okay, is there do you do you is there anything that happened or you feel you know what I'm saying?
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Freaking what's his name?
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Flipped his car.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:40.960
Um uh Spence flipped his like whatever Ferrari or something, he came back and he fought like later on.
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Didn't take a tune, but he just came back in and came right back into the world scene.
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Nobody died in the complex.
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He was in the car by himself.
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If somebody else was in the car, they might have unfortunately, and he was the one driving, you know what I'm saying?
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So, anyways, um, look, whatever.
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Yeah, I I don't I I don't particularly care to watch this fight.
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I just hope that you know AJ doesn't mess up.
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You know, don't don't slip up and let this kid hit you or whatever.
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This doorman, apparently.
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Lou made some good points when you think about it.
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He's like, he's 35.
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He's like, what career?
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He's not a fight, he's 35, but it's like, yeah, 35, you're 21 and one, or whatever.
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It's like you've been doing it for how many years?
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You probably just do it like everyone.
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He got a lot of knockouts because he said, because he fought Bozo the clowns apparently.
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So it's like this is something the dude does on the side, like you know, I'm saying, like, oh, I box on the side, he probably has like a regular job doing something else or whatever.
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Um, but you know, yeah.
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I I mean, if the kid does it, if the dude uh kid he's 35, what am I talking about?
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If the dude does it, if he gets a way to like knock or hurt, even hurt Anthony Joshua, you know what I'm saying?
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Even if it hurts him, that would be incredible, you know what I'm saying?
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For him, I'm sure you saw his manager all like even just the thought of like, oh yeah, we can, you know what I mean?
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He got so happy.
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It's like, sir, if you don't calm down, you don't go anywhere there.
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I need to change my underwears right now.
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Yeah, but um, whatever.
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Who knows?
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I don't I I just I'm so indifferent to the fight, I don't really care.
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Man, y'all gotta stop, man.
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See, this is the problem.
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AJ gets the most unrealistic expectations of any fighter I've ever seen.
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Like, y'all really want him to go into the fight with Tyson Fury after going rounds with Jake Paul.
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Personally, I don't believe he was even allowed to tag Jake Paul until he got a green light, and then he went in there and he tried to do something.
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This is about one timing, getting in timing, setting things up.
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This is a glorified sparring session, there's no doubt about it, but so was Tyson Fury's fight with uh Madmurdoff or whatever.
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You know, that guy looked horrible in the ring against uh Dave Allen.
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So people gotta be honest, right?
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Tyson Fury picked a glorified sparring session on Netflix.
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Now it was cool.
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What Anthony Joshua had with Jake Paul can't even qualify as a glorified sparring session.
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It was a sideshow, right?
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What he had with Francis Ngano, that was more of a sparring session because there was some jeopardy there, there was some fear there.
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That's why AJ knocked his ass out like he did.
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You understand?
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You need that AJ's walking in against the doorman, yeah.
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Excuse me, but how many times in boxing have we seen the doorman, the taxi driver, the plumber, land a good shot, almost win.
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It happens.
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You need some jeopardy there.
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You can't take away the fact that this is a man who has had uh over 20 professional fights.
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He has knockouts, like Ludabella said, if you get caught, he can hurt you.
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Okay, so he's legit.
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He doesn't have a good shot, but he still has a purchase chance.
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Jake had no chance in anybody's hell.
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He had no chance.
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So it's a real guy, just like Madramar.
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So Tyson Fury beat that guy.
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AJ can't fight him now because you know, it's gonna look bad or whatever.
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So you pick the door man, so he's gonna open the door for AJ to walk into the fight with Tyson Fury.
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Great.
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Talking about this car accident and acting like him stepping in the ring for the first time without his brothers by him by his side, may not impact him in a certain way, is being disingenuous.
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And we spoke about this.
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You saw Oliver McCall crying in the ring when he fought Lennox Lewis.
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If you look at Gary Antoine Russell when he returned to the ring for the first time fighting without his dad, and he had his brother Gary Russell Jr.
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in the corner, he was a bit emotional and he was a bit out of it.
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He didn't perform at his best.
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You don't know.
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You don't know how someone's gonna respond physically, how someone's gonna respond mentally.
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So you just want to get him in there, get him some rounds, and then get him into the Tyson Fury fight.
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And now you have Tyson Fury saying that he he wants another tune-up fight.
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Tyson.
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Saying he wants to fight someone else now.
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So why is Tyson so worried about this guy who everyone's so again, all these fighters want to feel at their best.
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It's not about the opponent, it's about feeling like you can pull the trigger when you need to.
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It's about feeling like your timing's right.
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It's about feeling like your stamina's right.
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It's about feeling like you're as close to being at your best, at your peak as possible.
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That's what this is about.
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The other thing I want to address it and I'm done with this situation, is a lot of the double talking.
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The manager said AJ made a miscalculation.
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He's getting giddy about thinking about Christian Pringer beating Anthony Joshua.
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But then in the same breath, he says if Christian Pringer beats Anthony Joshua, Anthony Joshua should retire.
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If you think Pringer's that good, why should he retire if he loses?
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Lou DeBella saying Pringer's garbage and all this stuff, and he was signing Pranger so he could put him in against some of his real guys so that he can lose.
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If you were gonna do that and that was your intent, why are you mad when AJ's doing it?
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So, like, yo, my man, you gotta calm down.
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I'm with you, I feel you, dog.
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But you can't be talking out of both sizes about that's all I got.
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Well, like you said, I think he expects more of AJ because he's like AJ's a Hall of Famer.
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His guys were just his Broadway boxing.
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If it's like uh he does it like on um in Times Square, like a show, it's just like a low, it's like a I don't know, like a local show or whatever, you know.
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.599
I'm saying local boxers or something.
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Um but hey, who knows?
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Maybe this kid is or kid, I keep calling a kid, he's 35.
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Maybe this guy is gonna shock the world, you know what I'm saying?
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Um, I was just trying to look at the box rec.
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I because I don't know who else does like more than top 10 rankings or whatever of like fighters or something.
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I'm trying to see who else he could have fought potentially.
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:57.840
I mean, outside of the top 10, um, I mean, there's guys like there's names you might see, like um you know, Gerrell Miller, big baby Miller's there.
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I just fought.
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Um, right, but I mean they should have, yeah.
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He just fought.
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I guess, but he can probably fight.
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They uh they if they could have they could have figured something out, assuming he won, they could have just gone into that.
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But um uh Lewis Ortiz is still ranked high somehow.
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Uh one's lost time.
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He's ranked at number 20, which is crazy to me.
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I'm like, this has gotta be wrong.
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What that's weird, anyways.
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Um I'm trying to think.
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Yeah, that's the point.
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Oh, he he already fought Pulev, right?
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:36.079
Yeah, yep.
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I mean already.
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There's other names here.
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I just I'm just not saying them.
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Like, there's FA jogba, but I think that's too dangerous.
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F is in Zoofa, and I don't think that's a dangerous fight.
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I think he'll two FA up, but FA's with Zufa.
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Um, Justice Honey, or he just fought too.
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Oh no, he could probably get F A because Zufa and and um re edge they work they work together, yeah.
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Yeah, that doesn't matter.
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So he couldn't get yeah.
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FA would have been a good fight.
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I just think that, but I don't want anybody FA does have a punch, like if if if you catch if you play around with FA, he he catches you.
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FA is what Christian Pranger is.
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.440
You're basically saying you just wanted him to fight a different version of Christian Pranger.
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:29.920
No, you think Christian Pranger is what you think you think Christian Prenga I think FA has uh a big telegraph right hand, and he just said the same thing about Christian Pranger.
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:38.159
So yeah, well, every guy in the world has a big right hand, every every guy's gonna throw thinks their right hand could knock any man out.
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:48.960
No, I'm saying I'm giving I'm giving uh I'm giving FA Joppa the stamp that he has a a decent good right hand, right?
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That's it though.
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Same with Prager, apparently.
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So I guess.
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I mean what yeah, yeah, I mean what what see well look hey it's it's happening what in july or something like that so we'll see how age is yeah yeah we'll see how age is if he's not shook up from the you know can he pull himself together and loop did make some good points he's like what is he what is he tuning up or what is he have to what does he have to his confidence shock that's like I love how he just asks like the main questions like what are we talking about here like what like but you're right time when you get it toot up for your car right yeah oil done you get it all worked up and so that it performs well when you he's tuning that's what he's tuning up he's fine tuning his timing everything stop it you get your tires rotated stop playing there y'all so aj's about to go in there rotate his tires he's getting he's getting the oil changed he's getting he's getting he's getting the performance ready so when he's in theory you know he doesn't blow a gasket oh man all right y'all let us know what y'all think in the comments so what is so what is he uh yeah I think better fighter than y'all are giving him credit for go on youtube and pull up prank's fights he actually is better than they're giving him credit for I think he's the best opponent aj could pick at this time he was the best tutor available okay this is the minus right here that's that's what it that's what it is all right so he's gonna talk about Toyota those things are run no matter what this kid hey this kid's been able to sell tickets okay he's been able to get a percentage he has a fan base this is the best he could get for what it is and this kid is good don't be surprised listen i'm gonna tell you right now low key this kid he could upset some of the guys in the top 50 that's what i think hey well we're about to find out if he that's what that's what i think you know puts that right hand uh on on aj's chin let's see what happens if he's if he's not if he's not paying attention right he's gonna be like aj look over there that's always gonna catch one lapse and judgment is over it could be over for AJ that's the jeopardy in this fight there you go so AJ's got to focus is tuning up his his his attention to detail skills because he was like if I don't pay attention this guy get knocked out so that's what yeah yeah that wasn't there with uh Jake the fair factor was a deal with Jake were you genuinely worried at what's coming back at you that was a deal with Jake yeah well look man let us know what y'all think in the comments sorry I'm yawning um you know is this fight it was Lou the Bell did he make some good points or was Lou just hating it was Lou being a big hater you know uh that does Christian bring out the punchers chance and is he gonna shock the world you know what happens if AJ does uh you know slip up and something happens what do does a fury fight happen and should fury fight another uh uh tune up in between times he's a problem now it's like levels upon levels right now tune ups upon tune ups man just make the fight guys please but uh hopefully this happens at the end of this year corner to corner caden and complex we'll see on the next one the IRS threatens to revoke Floyd Mayweather's passport if he doesn't pay his debt so there's a lot of rumors floating around about Floyd he's fighting him showing off his watch collection and everything but a report from Ring magazine says Floyd Mayweather's plan exhibitions against kickboxer Mike Zambidis and Mike Tyson are in jeopardy after the IRS notified him of its intention to have his U.S.
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passport revoked due to an unresolved seriously delinquent tax debt upward of two point a 7.25 million according to documents reviewed by the rank and this story is from Mike Confinger so you know consider the source I mean you know although he's not the only one reporting this but because I actually saw it from another um business um publication all right now Steven Espinoza gave an interview to um fight hub TV this video appears courtesy of FightHub TV subscribe to Fight Hub TV for the latest unboxing news Steven Espinoza um spoke about the ongoing lawsuit with Floyd Money Mayweather here's what he had to say well yeah look um I can't say too much about it the lawyers have asked me not to but you know obviously Floyd is uh is looking for 340 million which he uh I think supposedly discovered 10 years later is missing.
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Um I think you can tell by my tone what my thoughts are about that.
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Uh and look um all I can say is like you know um I'm confident in the legal process I'm confident about you know what the facts are going to show um and I look forward to this um you know playing out of court so everybody can see exactly what is true um and exactly what um you know where the money went because if you look at the uh you know how my career has played out I spent my career um going back to representing both Mike Tyson and Oscaroya um my career is making sure that fighters are treated fairly and have gotten compensated fairly and I've never done anything you know but that and I think at the the administration I ran at Showtime has was one that was very fighter friendly you know and I stand by that and I know will continue to um to be that possible Japanese collide all right so he said you know kind of placed the emphasis on 10 years later he realizes uh you know 340 million dollars is gone uh so complex uh what's your reaction to his exhibitions being in jeopardy and the threat of Floyd Mayweather losing his passport because of not paying the IRS because of his debt to the IRS and then also hearing um Steven Espinosa say as far as his lawsuit goes he's confident that he's gonna be cleared and you know basically like he knows where the money went so look man they say there's two things in life that are certain that's death and taxes all right you don't want to play with the IRS okay pay your taxes folks all right you don't want because that's a that's a it's never going away let me tell you something they're never gonna let it like oh like we'll let it slide it's not gonna go after seven years or whatever it's gonna keep growing you can try to negotiate it you can try to bring it down but you're gonna pay them you're gonna pay them their money and they're gonna get it from you so trust me the full you don't want to fully feel the full weight of the US government coming after you so with that said Floyd he needs that many fight he was trying to play games he needs that many fight right he might have to just take that L or whatever I mean if obviously he doesn't have to lose but like that's gonna be a real fight he better come prepared because he needs that fight he needs that money um you know Floyd the trouble is this and 50 said this a long time ago um Floyd is the type of guy that he keeps spending as if he's still earning and you can't do that right at a certain point you got to slow down you got to you know you earn a certain amount of money and then you're supposed to just live off of a small portion of that forever instead of trying to continuously live like you're still making that same money even us who got regular jobs if you got a nice high paying job you shouldn't be living at the means of your full salary if you make a hundred thousand you should be living like you make 5000 and that's how you you you sustain over a long period of time that's how if things go wrong you're not gonna fall short flat in your face but obviously we all have lifestyle creep but this dude like has lifestyle creep to the to the nth degree because it's like stuff that he doesn't even need you know I'm saying he doesn't need all that Louis Vuitton and all this nonsense you know I'm saying like he doesn't need any of that stuff he didn't need multiple houses and cars he could have one house in Vegas he could have a couple places that he gets to go visit you can just rent for that week or whatever you're there.
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You know what I'm saying he flies private with like multiple guys like I get it you're famous but you're not that famous like you'll be straight once in a while on a first class flight you know I'm saying like you don't got to fly private every single time that's the kind of stuff that eats at your pockets especially like rich people it's like uh unless you're really flying for business which I know he's sometimes he's doing these exhibitions it's not worth it then I heard he has two private jets one for him and one for security but I mean you know it's like what are we doing here so you know I I would hate to see speaking of which the security is also on the payroll right you gotta pay these guys all the time hey guess what the ladies are on the payroll if we're being keeping in a book you know I'm saying you think they just they they're getting paid one way or another they they're getting something out of this you know I'm saying they're not they from around the way they're not leaving with nothing so with all that said this is all costing you you know I'm saying you're the money the money's coming from you but you're not coming all the money's going out from you but it's nothing that's coming in that's why he keeps trying to do these exhibitions and whatever he's gonna get a quick million dollars over here quick over there he's gonna you know whatever whatever bro um you know the the trouble is also with the way he makes his money and if Floyd was smarter he wouldn't have to pay any taxes he'd pay very little he made most of his money through what is so and the way taxes work right it's is there's different types of ways you make money he's making his money through his income which means he's exchanging his time for his money right so he pays income tax and America has high income taxes the highest rate is 37% used to be 39% but it's 37% right now trim brought it down a little bit so every time he fights he's making money through like he's paying himself as or getting paid as like this is his salary or like this is his money.
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The reason why guys like certain guys like um really rich guys don't pay taxes is because they do it through investments right they get paid through investments or they they get their value their most of their wealth is through investments if Floyd took all the money that he earned and put that all into investments right um he could live off of dividends interest um you know from that money forever right because you're talking about this guy made probably over a billion dollars if he put even a hundred million a hundred million into um just like even like safe us bonds right or like there's like um state bonds and things like that you could like it was that tax free he could make like a three percent payment every year three percent of a hundred million is three million dollars you Floyd you can't live off three million dollars a year i'm talking about after everything is said you can't live off three million dollars a year that is you that's your problem you know what I'm saying private security women he burned through that in a month you can live forever off three million he could live his family his generations could live off that forever if he was smart but he keeps blowing it um you know I'm saying or he could like put the money into like stocks and then borrow against it that that's what a lot of people do they don't pay taxes on it so you don't have to ever ever actually sell it you borrow against it you live off that the the it's a loan right so you don't pay any taxes on a loan you just owe the loan back but then when you pass away they just take the assets that you had as leverage as collateral or your your kids can inherit it at a stepped up basis meaning they don't they don't inherit at what you bought it at they inherit it at the price that it is at the time you die so there's even if they sell it there's no taxes on it bro there's so many can you just get an accountant man do you have an accountant in your life like this these are things like the fact that you have this much money like I don't know who he's got in his life look I know a good accountant you know I'm saying if you need one I I I hook you up I I know a good lawyer too but you know you you you got to do better bro like this is basic stuff I don't know how you get it to a point where you're losing you owe in the IRS 7 million which is going to be earning interest and penalties late penalties and they don't play about that like I've been on the phone with the IRS for hours man that interest in penalties is going to grow you guys takes forever to get rid of it.
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So you know I'm saying just take care of it.
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It's like simple stuff that you could do to avoid these things.
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So I don't know Floyd I mean I I I I love Floyd I think he's you know one of the best representations of winning in the sport but he's about to play himself if he falls flat and loses everything right because I he's got money but he's ain't got that much money.
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He made a lot of money but 7 million dollars still matters to him right so imagine that if he if he's I don't know how much he has but he's he could be getting down low on his funds where he's like you know he can't pay that much and then we don't want to see him what is he like almost 50 right he's not even 50 yet right yeah he's pushing 50 he's just getting close to 50 you've got 30 at least more years of life to live at maybe assuming right hope he makes up yeah we could hopefully so you can you make it 30 years you know I'm saying like do you have enough right now I I feel like he doesn't and I think that's why he said keep doing these fights um anyways yeah that is what it is but I don't know Floyd man get you an accountant bro um you this is basic stuff bro this you shouldn't have to be dealing with these issues I don't pay taxes that makes me smart oh no look listen uh I feel like personally it's sad to see because I mean Floyd was one of my favorite fighters and that was just I remember like me and G every Floyd fight we was locked in we we picking Floyd and we watching the fight and he never disappointed he always showed up in shape prepared ready with the skill and the IQ to find a way to win it's just unfortunate to see someone like Floyd fall off but um not shocking because when you see the lifestyle that he lives it's impossible to live like that um and I'm it in the fact he could even live like that for this long is a testament to how much money he's made but at some point the well runs dry.
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It's just not an intelligent way to live.
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The whole flaws culture the whole um designer is one thing like I have on a Ralph Lauren hoodie right now that's considered designer but I didn't pay no freaking Louis V uh price for this I paid a reasonable price for this and that's because when I wash it it's still gonna look good and that's it you just need to buy good quality stuff.
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You don't need to spend five hundred dollars on hoodie I just I would never do that right but you just need to buy high quality stuff right you need a good car that's reliable that can get you and your family around you don't need seven luxury cars and in Floyd's case he's not even buying luxury he's buying like Rolls Royce's like you know and in in in crazy types of cars you don't need five or seven of those if you just roll up in one you're gonna be impressive why do you need seven he said he showed his watch collection to prove he's not broke.
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This is the irony of it he showed his watch collection to prove he's not broke um a different watch for every single day and it's like to those who know that's why we know you're broke right because you could buy a watch and it can it could the some watches do appreciate in value.
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I'm about to say yeah but not as much as if you invested that money right so see that's how we know you're broke because see you would have a few pieces maybe and they appreciate in value or whatever but you got a different watch for every single day that's excessive you could have had seven watches that appreciate in value and taken the rest of that money and invested it you you make up some good points and the other thing is this like one thing that these a lot of these athletes do is they think they have to buy everything if you want to drive different cars just rent just rent it yeah because the thing is this is the trouble and this is like it's like an imposter mentality they feel like even though they have the money they feel like they have to show that they have the money right and it's like oh renting cars means you don't really own it or whatever so it's like they're talking down on you if you it's like oh those are your cars you're renting them or whatever.
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So it's like you got to prove like oh I bought that car.
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You don't have to buy the car the cars depreciate in value so fast.
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If you feel like driving a different car every day of the week just rent just rent a car you can own one car that you actually drive and then if you feel like all right for this month I want to drive this Rolls Royce or whatever I want to whatever you can rent it for that month.
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The overall cost is going to be way cheaper yes you don't own it but there's no you this is this is a a saying I heard you want to um finance appreciating assets and you want to lease depreciating assets right because you you don't want to hold on to assets that are going to lose value for you.
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If it's gonna increase in value you can finance it and pay the interest because the value is going to outpace the the loan hopefully the idea is right but if you're if you're gonna take um on a car right you should well I mean if it's like your one car that you're gonna buy and then ride that to the wheels fall off fine you can finance it but then after that you're done but you're not gonna finance again and again and again depreciating assets because you're just losing over time right and especially multiple ones that you don't even use because it doesn't matter the car not you're gonna lose value on it.
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It's just crazy.
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And then the houses you can it doesn't matter don't if you don't live in the house you know a lot of guys end up losing especially these big multi-million dollar houses because there's not a market for them like that.
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So if you don't sell if you buy it and you want to sell now you paid six million for it you think oh my house is worth even eight million but guess what if nobody comes with eight million it's not worth eight million it's worth whatever who's willing to pay for it so if somebody's like I give you five for it and you need the money guess what you're gonna take five million right you so it doesn't matter you know I'm saying and you could be like oh I put in the best finishes the best all that stuff none of that matters it doesn't nobody cares you know that sentimental value to you or like you know these cabinets came straight from Europe or whatever nobody cares everything you value that you think is worth something when you die your kids are throwing like 80% of that crap away bro just understand talk about it man just understand that but anyways uh let me you made some great points I want to uh touch upon that it's funny because I was breaking this down to someone you pull up at a red light someone is driving a modest car that they own right the value of their car is eight thousand dollars so they own the car if they ever had to sell the car they can make eight thousand dollars from the car someone pulls up next to them in a bentega they don't own the bentega they're leasing the bentega or they're financing the bentega they have a monthly of like a thousand dollars every month they lose a thousand dollars to ride around in that bentega and the person driving the modest car valued at 8,000 has eight thousand they can get around and the person driving that bentega looks like they have it all looks offline whatever but the person parked beside actually has a lot more invested in that very basic car that you're seeing right so this is the thing you can't be falling for these stupid mind tricks and this is what social media does the fake world and everything right it it gets you caught up in all the wrong things right you brought up something complex that's that that's a great point you're gonna have multiple homes worth like six million in different states you you're only gonna be in one state at a time you could get a hotel you can get luxury you can you can rent a house or do whatever right but if you really want to invest in property invest in rental property buy buy like a triple deca you could buy an apartment complex that way it's being utilized and it's giving you money back instead you buy a a single single family house that's only taken money away from you you buy a single family house if you're gonna live in the house with your family and then you don't want to buy multiples and and I know that it's a
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Floyd Money Mayweather, and uh uh of course, but again, this is just the poor financial management of some of these athletes that lead them to become broke later on in life.
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And Floyd Money Mayweather, you could just see this happening, and we're not even gonna talk about his biggest obsession, which to me is when you feel, and I've noticed this.
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Once people reach a certain level with money, it's a thrill for them to buy people like you give people money, you can make people do whatever you want.
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You need you buy like people, you start you start playing games with people, you start that's the most expensive thing, and then when that money runs out, everyone leaves, and you're sitting around thinking, Well, I was there for you and I helped you.
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No, you used your money to control, and you just ran out, so bye, fool.
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That's what happens to all of these people, and you see people running around now making a fool of themselves on live streams when they used to flush money down the toilet, right?
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But again, this is what happens when you lose sense of reality.
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The reality is this, and then I'm done with the with the topic.
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If you have to use money to separate yourself from everyone else, then you're lame.
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If you can't stand out on your own, if you don't have something that makes you unique, is something that without even talking about your money.
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If money is the thing that makes you, if money, because you know what, you'll never have enough.
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Too much money's not enough money, there'll never be enough money.
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And if that's the only thing that makes you unique, Elaine.
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Look at someone like Anthony Joshua makes a lot of money, but that's not his identity.
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You could think of so many people who make so much money, but that's not their identity.
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Their identity is not rooted in the money they make.
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And if all you have is that I drive the Rolls Royce, and I you're you're not special, your Rolls Royce is.
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You're not special, the house is.
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There's nothing about you.
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And Floyd is a bad example of this because he's arguably the most talented fighter that ever lived.
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That should have been enough for him, but unfortunately it wasn't.
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Well, look, guys, what do y'all think?
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Floyd, 7.25 million to the IRS.
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I mean, dang.
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You think he got it?
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You think that small chump change to him?
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I mean, he made a lot of money in his career, but then he's also saying now he's missing 340 million or something.
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So, you know, it's looking real scary for Florida.
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I hope I just hope we don't see him like you know, another guy who was about billions.
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Now he's about, you know, begging from the B already broke.
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Already alcoholic beverage.
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But all the videos of A B now it's like all he does is like be drunk and scare in the hoes.
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It's like, bro, it's like he's the dude at the party time.
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Yo, bro, this is the this this this is what took me.
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Like, I don't even want to talk about it.
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It's like, yeah, I really wasn't gonna try to flex anything like that, but I'm A B four-time champ.
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And the girls were just like, who cares?
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Nobody cares, dog.
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Even you have some personality, charisma, some charm, or something.
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Nobody cares, like, bro.
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Yeah, and and then as it's like, what does that do from here?
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What does that do?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, but he's he's just a definition of scare of the hose.
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It's like so funny.
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He'd be so like coming on too hard.
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It's like, bro, teacher, like you you doing too much, like like, and then he and then he gets mad when they don't want to give him anything.
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He's like, uh who are you?
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I'm I'm A B I'm this and that.
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It's like, bro, if you have to explain to somebody, you already lost.
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If you gotta explain both know that never mattered, like when we went in college and whatever, the athletes or people who thought they were it never mattered, it doesn't matter, bro.
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Like women don't care about stuff like that, bro.
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They don't look man.
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Well, anyway, that's A B Floyd.
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Hopefully, we see both these brothers.
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You know what?
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They can help each other out, they should fight each other, make some money.
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They can both know, bro.
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That would have been that would have been a major fight 10-15 years ago.
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That would have been you block.
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Right?
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People gonna pick a b if they don't know any better.
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I mean, but that would have been, I mean, what what a b after the thing is that you know what that Marcos Mardana fight really messed a b up.
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Um, if if if he hadn't lost that fight, which he was he still made a good account for himself, he could have been literally a billionaire.
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He could have if he had won that fight, it's so crazy small things happen because after that he would have probably fought Floyd, right?
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And if he fought Floyd, he would have had like you know, maybe one or two fights against Floyd, and that would have set him up, you know.
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I'm saying he still fought Pacquiao, he did fight Pacquiao, but it was like he was on pay-per-view before all of his peers were.
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He was on pay-per-view before Earl Spence, excuse me, all of them.
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He he he was he was the guy, he got a lot of big fights, he did a lot of opportunities, yeah.
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And and and he squandered it, man.
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I'm gonna tell you, I don't want to get this one AB because I because like really I feel like he's in a in a place where I don't want to bash him.
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Like I don't necessarily feel sorry for him because it's of his own doing, but I don't want to bash him.
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But when I saw him sign to Don King to fight Blair the Flair Cobb, and he got like a cash advance, and Don handed it to him, and he was just counting the money, it just looked like feeding activity to me.
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You know what I mean?
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So it could be, it could be that that would explain a lot.
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I mean, I would hope almost I would almost hope that you know when people act like irrational, it's like I hope they're on drugs.
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So it's like you can't be this bad, right?
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It's gotta be the drugs, it's gotta be the alcohol, it's gotta be something because like if you're this bad off the strength, then like dang, you really messed up, you really down bad.
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So uh I almost would rather hope him be an addict, and like that's the reason why because he at least he could clean himself and be like, yo, it was the drugs, it wasn't me, but this is just him, it is just him.
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I've accepted that that he is who he is.
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I don't think Floyd is as bad in that aspect, but I do think that um if you have to flaunt your wealth around, and in which case it's not really wealth, because if it was wealth, he wouldn't be broke right now.
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If you have to flaunt your riches around and you have to use your money to keep people around and to pay and to do all that, then you know, and you got to look at it like for example, um I won't I won't run through the list of women, but a lot of his women that he had, he ended up losing to people like around him or whatever.
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It's just they're little signs that show that like people may not be there for you, and you still wanna pay and do whatever it's all good, like yeah.
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All right, let us know what y'all think in the comments, Floyd A B, money problems.
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Well, what kind of financial advice would y'all give them?
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You know what I'm saying?
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What do you think happens?
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And do you think that Floyd is gonna you know end up having to do these fights to make some money, these exhibitions and all these things like that?
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And um, does he fight Manny?
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You know, he needs that fight.
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Is it gonna be a real fight?
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Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
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That's Cadent, I'm complex, corner to corner.
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See y'all the next one.
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Earl Spence says that he's always felt like Jer Jamel Charlo was jealous of him.
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Now they used to train in the same gym, they used to spar, and we just assumed it was friendly because they were in the same camp.
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But Earl Spence kind of reveals that nah, I wasn't always friendly, and he felt it, but he never really he put it to the side, but there was, I guess, really something there.
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Let's listen.
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This is one great names, good names, great names.
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That's more on my radar than you know when and where it's high to me.
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What are some of those good names, great names that are out there right now for you?
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Good question.
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Uh nah, we didn't really have a falling out.
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I mean, dude been dude been kind of I would say jealous of me.
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Dude's been kind of jealous of me.
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Because I mean, I guess he looked at me as like um, he looked at me as like, I guess, PVC, golden board, some and all this and that.
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So maybe he's been jealous of me, but I mean, the proof is in the pudding.
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It's the reason why, it's the reason why he hasn't had a fight yet.
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And it's the reason why I can say, hey, I want to fight, and then I have a fight next tomorrow.
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You know what I'm saying?
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:45.600
I mean, shit, people tired of people tired of goddamn, you know, giving him fights and then you get in the red because he's fighting and he ain't got any fans.
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.479
Like, where can Jamel fight at and sell out?
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.199
Can't even fight in Houston and sell out.
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:53.840
Like, so where is he fighting at?
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.159
So he he mad at me, but we might handle that in the future.
01:15:58.399 --> 01:15:59.920
Did you feel that in the gym or something?
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:00.640
Something like that.
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.960
Uh yeah, I mean, I felt a little bit in the gym, but you know, trying to be solid, man.
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.319
Most times you can't be solid all the time.
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:23.439
You gotta, you know, listen to your intuition and you know, not mess with people, how you mess with people, but you know, there's just my character trying to keep it solid, trying to be rich, trying to be thorough.
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:25.520
So you heard it.
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:33.760
He said he felt it in the gym, but he was trying to be solid and basically not let it interrupt anything.
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:39.439
But now that uh he's being called out, he said they might handle it in the future.
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:45.119
What's your reaction to uh what he had to say about Mel being jealous of him and that he always felt it?
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:52.720
Do you feel like um do you feel based on what you're observing that it's jealousy or do you feel like it's just competition?
01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:56.399
And also, um, do you feel like they should fight?
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:00.960
I think you're on mute, brother.
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:04.239
My bad.
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.880
Yeah, I think I think in the future they can fight.
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:17.520
And I do think um there is some um truth to what he said that like yo, I think he was a little bit um jealous of me because look, like he made a good point.
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.880
Um Spence has always been the bigger star.
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:26.800
Spence fought on pay-per-view, like leading a pay-per-view, like he's the main attraction, you know what I'm saying?
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:28.800
Like he's the one that everybody's here to see.
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:32.079
I think only Charlo maybe had one or two of those or something like that.
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:37.279
Whereas Spence, every fight was a pay-per-view or like a major main attraction fight.
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:38.720
People just like him more.
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.319
I mean, he sells more, he made more money, you know what I'm saying?
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:47.279
And it come, I would the reason why I say jealousy is because Charlo comes off as a hater.
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.479
Like, you know what I'm saying?
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:52.399
Like that, and the trouble is you can tell, like, okay, you you feel a type of way.
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:57.359
If Charlo's like, no, that's my boy, he was great, he's uh obviously a great champion and whatever.
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:01.520
But like the way he responds makes you think that okay, it was jealousy, right?
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:02.800
Because that's what else would it be?
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.119
With the you know, that that type of energy.
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:15.119
Um, you know, uh Charlo has never really sold a lot, and that's why right now he's kind of like looking to for somebody to fight.
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:20.720
Um, I think he's trying to get paid, he's trying to get back in the ring, but I think he's trying to get paid to get cashed out.
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:33.680
I think if if Errol can come back and Errol can become what he was at 147, if he can come back and he can win belts and become like a problem at 154, I would like to see it in the future.
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:34.560
That's a good fight.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:38.319
And I mean, you know, there's a thin line between love and hate.
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.319
This whole thing, there's uh, you know, maybe some competition, some friendly whatever.
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.039
But at the end of the day, they used to spend a lot of time in the gym together.
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.199
They're probably boys at some point.
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:48.960
And a fight against each other.
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:55.520
One thing about boxing is that fighting somebody, there's animosity, but there's also love because you guys are doing business together, right?
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.199
You guys are gonna make money together.
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.479
So it's like some of that stuff, that's what after fight you often.
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.039
They hug each other out because it's like, yo, we did it.
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:03.520
Right?
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:08.159
We did it like only a few times where it's like purely that's just bad blood.
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.319
Like, I don't f with this dude at all, right?
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:14.399
So if he if he if he does fight him in the future, he'd be blessing him.
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:15.760
Because guess what?
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:24.000
He gives him one opportunity, because if he beats him, he gets all that juice now, and two, he gets a chance to make some money, at least, at the very least, if he loses.
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:31.760
So I go, I would be done with you that in the future, but definitely Trello, uh Trello just is his his demeanor is is not welcoming.
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.880
Every time you see him, it's like he's barking at somebody.
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:36.640
It's like, bro, are we are you good?
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:37.439
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:38.479
So it's just hard.
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.720
I think it's hard for him to get a fan base of true fans when like anybody who comes around you is like, you know what I'm saying?
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:48.640
Like Spence at least is like kind of a really cool, like mellow dude or whatever.
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:59.359
So it's like you can you can feel like you could talk to him and chill with him, but Spence, it feels like you talk to him, he's gonna bark at you or yell at you, or he's looks like you know what I'm saying, look at always agitated, and that's probably a personal thing he's dealing with, you know.
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:00.479
I'm saying who knows?
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.199
But that's just that way it comes across.
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:08.159
So I would say, like, yeah, and and then so also think about it.
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:14.720
Charlo became undisputed in his weight class, and he still never really got the kind of love that Errol got.
01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:19.039
He never got the recognition that Errol got, and that probably eats him up inside, you know what I'm saying?
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:23.520
Because it's like, yo, I got undisputed, I'm like, I was all this.
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:29.520
Then Spence didn't get undisputed and he lost, but he still has much more, you know what I'm saying?
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.119
Like respect and the industry and sport and whatever than me.
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:40.000
So I I I I see where um Spence is coming from, but yeah, I I can see them fighting their future as well, too.
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:54.800
Um for me, I think that Jamel just comes off as uh a confrontational person, as you pointed out.
01:20:55.039 --> 01:21:01.359
We've seen him getting into it at boxing matches, we've seen him get into it buying clothes.
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:09.279
He didn't like the person who was serving him at like whatever luxury clothing store he was at, so he got into it with that person.
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:20.960
Um, we've seen uh Jamel always inflamed and in a in a beef or upset at someone, so it's hard for me to label it jealousy.
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:26.159
It could just be a character flaw, but it's possible that it's jealousy as well.
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:32.479
Whereas he feels as though Earl Spence is getting some type of love that's reserved for him.
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:45.439
But again, to me, that would somewhat be like jealousy because you feel like you're not getting enough, and you want what someone else is getting, and you wonder why people are treating someone else a certain way.
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:55.039
But a lot of these guys don't do like self-reflection, they don't look at themselves, they don't see what they want, what they need to change in order to get.
01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:07.680
And for Jamel, regardless of what he says, he could have done himself a service against Canelo if he would have gone out there and actually fucked Canelo.
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.520
A lot of people were watching, a lot of people.
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.000
I know there's this one dude in the gym.
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.960
He told me he felt like Jamel was gonna beat Canelo.
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:24.720
And I said, Yeah, I and he used to see me every week, and he stood on that.
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:41.039
And I said to him, I think that you are seriously underestimating Canelo, and you're you are like overvaluing Jamel and his ability, and he was just like, I'm crazy, whatever, I'm supposed to know boxing.
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:49.920
So after the fight, when I saw him in the gym, he just put his head down, and he was just that's how you made people feel, bro.
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:57.439
These people who were riding for you, like he was like so he he put his rep on the line with me.
01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:58.399
I don't know why.
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:07.039
You know, he would just come at me every single day about how wrong I was that Canelo was gonna beat you, and then you embarrassed him.
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.359
So that's not how you build a fan base.
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:17.760
At least if you were to land one punch that staggered Canelo, your fan base could have said he almost had him or something.
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:21.680
You did nothing, so that's not how you build a fan base.
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:30.720
Even Earl Spence, like he got his ass whooped by Tance Board Crawford, but he tried to fight him, he kept trying to fight him.
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:34.079
He tried, bro, and that's the difference.
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:46.640
Like, you you can't you you can't walk out with everyone feeling like you just robbed them, like you just showed up to get a check.
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:53.359
That's the impression that Jamel Charlo left with everyone who watched him fight Canelo.
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.720
That's also how he let he he let the promoters feel.
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.600
So why would they want to put you in another fight?
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:01.920
Why would they be eager to put you in another fight?
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.119
We don't know if you're showing up to fight or collect a check.
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.159
You know, it has to look like it matters to you.
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:10.800
And this is what happens in in the game.
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.920
Now, the for example, take it to basketball.
01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.319
The Minnesota Timberwolves actually won.
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:22.880
They won without Anthony Edwards, by the way, who I think is an electrifying player, is one of my favorite players to watch.
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:28.079
But I've seen him lose a playoff game and be laughing like it's nothing.
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:37.920
I'd seen Wimbiana, uh, Victor Wimbiana win a game that was close, and he and it was a regular season game.
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:40.960
They pulled it out, a close game at the end.
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:49.119
He made some key plays and he was crying because he really wanted to win the game and he was that emotional.
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.000
Who do you think I want on my team?
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.279
Who do you think I want to go see?
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:59.279
The guy who's laughing, talented, can ball, can hoop.
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.600
But I'm about to say Anthony Ericks is a problem.
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:04.399
I know I love watching him play.
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:09.359
He can hoop, but you lose and he's just laughing.
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.840
Or the guy who cares, the guy like I want, I take Wimby.
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:14.640
That's just me.
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:20.399
And and and and you're talking about two guys right now who are the face of the league to me.
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.319
The the two up and comes, whatever.
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:26.640
But if you ask me who I pick, I'm gonna take Wimby because I know he cares about the game.
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:28.399
That's all I care about.
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:32.960
I don't have to question as long as Wimby's on that court, is he giving me max effort?
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:34.640
I don't have to question that.
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:36.159
That's all I want.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.640
That's all I want out of my fighters.
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.840
I don't have to question as long as they have a fight coming up, will they show up in shape?
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:44.640
Are they gonna try?
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:45.279
Are they gonna?
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:46.720
I don't want that.
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:52.000
And you know, you don't realize you're spoiled until it's too late.
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.760
Like the era of boxing that I grew up watching, I was spoiled.
01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:01.520
Because the fighters didn't pull out and they have all this.
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:04.239
They showed up and they tried to win, bro.
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.279
Eyes hanging out the socket, whatever.
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:09.760
They showed up, they tried to win.
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:12.319
That's not that's not today, man.
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:14.159
That's what I'm talking about with Jamel.
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:26.319
I couldn't imagine back when I was growing up watching a fighter who would just have so much to give, but just run and lap the ring because they're afraid of getting hurt in a boxing match.
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:29.439
Like, I just can't imagine it.
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.840
So that's the issue with Jamel.
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.600
You don't have a good personality.
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.920
You snap on everyone, you show up looking like you just want a paycheck.
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:39.119
So that's the issue.
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:41.680
Earl Spence, at least we've seen him care.
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:47.439
Earl Spence, like you said, got in a car accident, came back fighting Danny Garcia.
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.720
No tune-up, no nothing.
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.439
So you gotta respect a guy like that.
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:56.560
Getting to Jamel Charler versus Earl Spence.
01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:02.159
I really hope Earl Spence is still has some left in the tank because it's good for boxing.
01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:11.920
I think uh Earl Spence, if he goes out and he puts on a good performance against uh Tim Zoo, I think that is good for boxing.
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:14.720
It gives us another player, it gives us someone to look at.
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:17.439
And if he wants to fight Jamel, fine.
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:26.319
But if he looks good enough and he wants to go at Sebastian Fondora, I'll tell you what, I know who I think the tougher fight is Sebastian Fondora.
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:32.079
So if he wants to go after Sebastian Fondora, I'm not gonna look at him like you ducked Mel.
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:36.000
In fact, it's probably smarter to fight Mel, in my opinion.
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.039
Well, it yeah, when it comes to that point, like of uh danger or whatever.
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:42.880
Um yeah, man.
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.119
No, uh you you're talking about basketball.
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.159
The Celtics lost last night, and I'm I'm still mad at that.
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:50.720
Like we lost in seven to the Sixers.
01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:51.760
Like, oh my god.
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:52.880
Ked, are you kidding me?
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.039
Jason Tatum 3 1, man.
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:56.720
Bro, 3 1.
01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.760
And then Jason Tatum man just bothered me because I feel like this dude.
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:01.520
Always shrinks when it's like time.
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.439
He said he got a leg injury, whatever.
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.840
It's like, bro, you have a game seven or whatever.
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:06.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:09.119
Like these kids these days.
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:10.960
Tatum on that one, man.
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:12.000
You said what?
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:14.159
You can't blame Tatum for that.
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:16.239
Come on, Tatum showed up.
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:18.479
Nah, same thing happened.
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:20.239
Uh uh, what was it?
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:21.920
Like when we lost to Miami.
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:23.760
Same thing, game seven or whatever.
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:35.920
Now, obviously, okay, like if a legitimate knee injury happens or something, but it's like this dude, like it just feels like when there's when it's time to like show up and show out, it's like if you're a superstar, you're gonna shut the game down.
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.479
You're gonna be like, all right, everybody stand back, I'm taking over.
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.279
Or you're at least gonna be able to like impact the game.
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.359
You can just like all right, I'm not letting this happen.
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:44.319
You know what I'm saying?
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.520
Like, I just feel like he doesn't take it to that gear.
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.359
I don't know if it's even it has it, you know.
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:54.159
I'm saying, like, and maybe I'm being maybe I'm just sour grapes right now.
01:28:54.239 --> 01:29:01.439
And I know this is Anthony Edwards, arguably that one of the most exciting players in basketball didn't play in his series and his team more.
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:08.079
The Celtics, they were down by like 20 at one point and had to rally back.
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:18.319
That's effort, that's them not playing defense and putting themselves in a hole they had to crawl back from, which they did in the fourth quarter with like three minutes left.
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.239
They were within one point.
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:20.880
Yeah.
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:22.399
And three minutes left.
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:32.399
And in three back-to-back possessions where they got stops and the game was still one point, they shot horrible three-pointers and missed.
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:36.239
And then that's when the 76ers went on a run.
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:41.119
How come after missing the first three, you don't think let me take it to the basket and try to get the lead?
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:46.880
How come after missing the second three, you don't at least on that third possession, say let's attack the rim and try to get the lead?
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:48.399
We're only down by one point.
01:29:48.640 --> 01:30:00.560
There's a psychological flip that happens once you see yourself up on a scoreboard that would hurt them, but instead, you never cross that threshold because you just decided to check up a bunch of threes.
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:07.119
That's nothing to do with Jason Tatum, that has something to do with poor basketball, like agreed.
01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:23.119
I don't, it's not only on him, but my thing is this is that especially just think that these days, like you feel I feel like back in the day when you were the superstar of a team, it was your personal responsibility almost like to like I'm getting my team across the line.
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.199
I mean, obviously LeBron is LeBron, right?
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:26.960
LeBron is LeBron, let's put him to the side.
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:32.880
But like even guys like even like a Dwayne Wade before LeBron joined, right?
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:39.039
Like, there's certain things like like you are the guy, you were the franchise is behind you.
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:42.720
We're we like everything is is resting on you, you know what I'm saying?
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:51.840
Like it's your responsibility to make sure you gotta if if you it's not okay, you would never allow your team to go out in the first round, you know.
01:30:51.920 --> 01:31:02.399
I'm saying even when Paul Pierce was by himself, Paul Pierce was able to get in performances and get the team like terror, like not great teams, but into like multiple rounds into the playoffs.
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:06.159
So obviously, this is the first we haven't been bounced in the first round in like years, right?
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:12.880
But I just would feel like, especially you when you have somebody who's like of Jason Tatum's supposed superstar status, right?
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:19.439
Or that level he's supposed to be, you would think that like he's like, nah, like I'm not going, we're not going out like that, right?
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:21.840
Like, but I don't know, whatever.
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:23.439
It's just a way off topic.
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.079
So he's up on my man JT.
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:27.439
First of all, let me tell you something.
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:32.880
All right, Jason Tatum came back from his Achilles injury quickly.
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.279
A lot of people didn't even expect to see him this season.
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:36.319
He gave it a go.
01:31:36.560 --> 01:32:27.600
They're probably being very cautious with him because what ends up happening, and I'm telling you this from experience, what ends up happening when you have an injury with uh a part of your leg, it can be your knee, your hamstring, your ankle, is you start overcompensating and trying to avoid the pain in the area where you hurt, so you start overcompensating or you start trying to land in a way where you put all the impact on other parts of your body, and then that could lead to another injury, or you know, so you you don't know basically, and I think what they decided was to be cautious with him because um, you know, they there is a game seven, and you were you were up 3-1, and they probably thought they could win, and they should have won if you're being honest.
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:28.720
Uh they should have won.
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:31.359
So they should have won, anyways.
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:34.479
Look, listen, guys, Spencer Charlo.
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Back on the topic.
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Let us know what y'all think in the comments.
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All right.
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Uh, it's corner to corner, Caden and Complex.
01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:48.319
Who we need to talk about basketball because complex seems to be out of line with the way he's treating my man, Jason Tatum, right now.
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:55.520
Bro, I'm I'm just I'm just salty about it because I was like, no way are we losing to the Sixers of all people.
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:59.279
We're in New York right now, they were all watching it.
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.159
Uh everywhere I was going to close in the game.
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I'm like, they probably won't really win, they don't want us.
01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.399
Bro, we're supposed to son the Sixers and the Knicks.
01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:09.680
That's our little brothers.
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.560
That's our little, you know, I mean, in the Eastern Conference.
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:14.239
That's like we don't even worry about them.
01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:19.039
It's like every year we go to Eastern Conference finals no matter what, and then we go figure it out from there.
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:21.520
We lose it to the lot of money to beat us, bro.
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:29.279
They got embied, they got Paul George, they got Carl Lowry on the um on bench, yeah.
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.159
Yeah, they they paid a lot of money to beat us.
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.000
The team is stacked, but still, I don't know.
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:38.720
Anyways, we'll catch y'all in the next one.
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Peace.
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Oscar Delahoya says he's willing to squash the beef with Data White to make Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben.
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Is this shocking news?
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We will discuss it.
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But first, let's listen to what Oscar had to say about making this mega fight.
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You have Connor Ben, who to me is like is that even possible?
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:14.640
Well, absolutely it's possible, but you think about this, like he's fighting for the Zufa belt.
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:26.640
So, and Ryan Garcia's fighting for all the belts, he's fighting for the WBC, WBA, IBF, like Connor Ben's with the Zufa belt, you know, the the the unicorn pink Zufa belt.
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.600
So who knows if if if we can make that fight.
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:36.960
But look, if if if Dana White wants to call me, then we can start talking.
01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:38.479
That's the bottom line.
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So I think that happens though, because there's been a lot of back and forth between you guys, like well, this is this is all about the fighters, it's not about me and Dana.
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:53.760
You know, me and Dana have a beef going on, you know, which is which is actually a lot of fun for me, but uh um but this is about the fighters.
01:34:54.319 --> 01:35:00.880
I can squash the beef, you know, I can squash the beef easily just to make this fight happen.
01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:16.319
But the fact that Connor Ben is fighting for the rainbow belt, uh or the unicorn belt uh at Zufa, I don't know what their plans are if they're even wanting to fight for the WBC or the WBA, IBF, WBO.
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:17.600
So whatever.
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Dana, call me.
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It's all good.
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:21.439
Champions collab.
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Oscar's willing to squash the beef to make Connor Ben versus Ryan Garcia uh complex.
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What's your reaction to that?
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.880
I just want to say quickly, uh, shout out to Oscar.
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I saw him walking into the Benavidez girl fight, uh Zerto fight last night.
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He had a badge on on his arm, and I just gotta say, yo, he is the golden boy.
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.399
This guy, we we talk a lot of crap, but this guy's been famous for a long time.
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He's got a lot of he's he's got a lot of things that you know he's he's ran through already.
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.159
So put some respect on his name.
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As a fighter and for the sport of boxing, like he was one of my favorite fighters.
01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:03.920
Like you talk about fights, you don't miss.
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.560
I did I never missed the Oscar fight either back then.
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No, Oscar.
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They call him the golden boy for a reason.
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But in any event, uh I just thought about that because I saw him walking in last night.
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Um, this is part of the course.
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You know why he's willing to make this work?
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Because he's Carter Benny's like, that's easy work.
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That's an easy done.
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He's like, we're not letting that one go.
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That's our easy work.
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That's our food.
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So we're taking that, we're taking that one.
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And we could do it in the UK, make a lot of money, and maybe do this on a Netflix or whatever, still at a stadium.
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Hell, yes, a thousand percent.
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All of them, everybody at Golden Boy, um, you know, uh, what's his name?
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Is they're all licking their chops at the at the thought of this, you know what I'm saying?
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:55.920
Um, Ryan Garcia, like, they want that fight because they know it's easy work, they know they're gonna get a nice big payday.
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So, yeah, these guys look at the end of the day, these promoters, these fighters, they're all about making money.
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That's what we're doing this for.
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It's not just about whatever, all the talk, all that's secondary to making money.
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And if there's an opportunity to make money, the the worst of enemies will fight each other.
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The guys who don't can't stand each other, they'll make some business happen because guess what?
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There's millions at stake.
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So, you know, I'm not too surprised at that.
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Uh, especially these guys, they all also know what it takes to sell a fight.
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And they know that, okay, you have to be a character, right?
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:30.079
They know this is all fake.
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Behind the scenes, they're probably cool.
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And the in the cameras or whatever's on, they're gonna be like, oh, this guy, I'm a you know, whatever, whatever, whatever.
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Like, you know, like Ali used to do that all the time.
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Like, when the cameras are on, he'd be like, ah da da da.
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But like he was actually cool with a lot of people behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, but obviously it didn't still rub people the wrong way.
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:57.039
Like, like Frazier never forgave him for some of the things he said, but like ultimately they were actually like behind the scenes, like friends and stuff.
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:00.640
But in any event, um, you know, it's all about selling the fights.
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So I don't think it's too crazy for them to like work something out.
01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:07.840
Um, and I think uh Ryan Garcia wants that easy.
01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.199
That seems like that's an easy dub.
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I'm gonna get a highlight reel knockout over a guy who's got a lot of fans in the UK, and I'm gonna do it in style, and I'm gonna defend my belt, and I'm gonna get a lot of money.
01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:18.880
So he's like, yes, let's make that happen.
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:20.880
So I can see that happening next.
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I've been a proponent that they signed uh Connor Ben for this fight, and I stand by that.
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:38.079
There's no other way to justify 15 million to Connor Ben, like I said, unless he's going to fight Ryan Garcia.
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:58.159
And to me, uh Oscar Delahoya's shift in tone seems like he understands that this is massive, and I think it's a big fight for Ryan Garcia because Connor Ben is the son of Nigel Ben, and he does have a fan base in the UK.
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:03.359
There are also a lot of people in the UK who don't like him, but he's fighting an American.
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So UK boxing fans come together, not all, but a lot of them, when someone from the UK is fighting one of the Yanks.
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They're gonna come together so that they can uh root for their guy.
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And there's nothing wrong with that.
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:27.439
Ryan Garcia, on the other hand, has his fan base, and he's popular in the United States of America.
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:38.239
Of course, Ryan has people who don't like him as well because of his history and some of the things he said, his behaviors, and uh the positive tests.
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Conor Penn also has a positive test.
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But I think they're gonna offset all the negative things are gonna offset.
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Excuse me, because this is a big fight, big names, uh, interest from two of the biggest markets in boxing of potentially having the fight in the UK.
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The only thing that I think could hurt it in the UK would be the start time, because it will start at 6 p.m.
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If they can figure out a way to have them walk into the ring, not necessarily 12 o'clock, because I feel like that's excessive as well, but maybe make it a little bit later, or if they do it on Netflix or something, uh I I think that can help.
01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:28.239
So, like Netflix at say they'll walk into the ring at like 7, 8 p.m.
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They're gonna fight at that time.
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I think it can be massive.
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So I think there's a lot there.
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Of course, Oscar Delahoya is gonna be willing to squash it with uh Dana White for that.
01:40:40.319 --> 01:40:41.840
There's a lot of money to be made.
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He's also right, he's right when it's gonna make him some money.
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.359
They're supposed to do this in the best interest of the fighters.
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This is in the best interest of the fighter in terms of Oscar Delahoya.
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Same for Zufa.
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And if I'm Zufa and I just watch Connor Ben struggle with Regis Progray, I'm thinking the only way for me to profit off of this deal is to fight like Ryan Garcia.
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So I would sell him and and and tell him, look, sink or swim.
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:14.720
You've been talking a lot.
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:21.920
Like uh, my what my one of my favorite scenes uh uh in movie history is from uh the nutty professor.
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When uh Eddie Murphy's like, okay, Shelly, you've been a guinea pig long enough.
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:30.880
It's time to see if this stuff works, and then he takes the medicine.
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.399
I'm like, oh, I thought you were gonna give it to the uh guinea pig.
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:38.560
Well, it's like Connor, you've been getting easy touches long enough.
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:41.920
It's time to see if you're world level or not.
01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:59.119
Throw him in that ring and let's see uh what he has because I'm sick of hearing him talk, I'm sick of seeing seeing him run up on Shakur, I'm sick of hearing him talk about Devin, I'm sick of seeing him put him in the ring with one of these guys now, and let's see if he's about that life.
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:01.039
That's what that's what I want to see.
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:02.880
So I would love for it to happen.
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:10.880
I think it's the only way that paying Connor Ben that much money could make sense, is if they get him in the ring with Ryan Garcia.
01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:14.960
Are you on mute, brother?
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:16.880
My bad.
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:20.239
Yeah, pretty much that's the only way that money would ever make sense.
01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:28.000
But I'm curious though, because like the contracts and everything, it's like what do they gain by paying him that much and then him losing to Ryan Garcia?
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:39.520
If they had Ryan Garcia under contract, which makes me wonder because you know, Ryan was kind of like, Oh, I'm a free agent, but like um Oscar was like, No, he's still under Golden Boy, but it was like, Yeah, we're gonna work together something.
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:42.319
I wonder if Ryan is eventually gonna move to Zufa.
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:54.720
And maybe they it's like already in the plans or in the works, you think, or maybe it's possible, but here's what they'll gain they paid him 15 million for one fight deal.
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:57.359
Who knows the the real particulars?
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:06.560
But if they sell the fight to Netflix for let's say um I don't think the fight's worth 100 million, but if they got that, whatever.
01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:23.359
Let's just say they sold the fight to net to Netflix for 60 million and Zufa was gonna take 20 million of that, they would recoup at least, and maybe even profit, and so that's the value of selling him to Ryan Garcia.
01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:29.279
Then if he loses to Ryan Garcia, right, he's still gonna have some value.
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:45.359
I mean, he's not gonna be world level, but you bring him back to Zoo for now and you let him get beat on by Richardson Hitchens, which would be another big fight, and you can get simply off of it.
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:49.520
I was thinking that's exactly what's gonna happen.
01:43:52.000 --> 01:44:03.600
Oh man, they're gonna do them like Eddie Hearn did um um Kel Brook when he fought Triple G and then he lost triple G, then he threw him in the ring with Earl Spitch.
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:04.720
Right.
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.640
He's like taking it's like a race runs.
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:11.920
It's like I'm gonna get for both sides of you right now, and then we like sending off the pasture.
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:13.199
Exactly.
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:14.159
Yeah, all right.
01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:16.159
Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:20.239
You know, what would do you want to see Oscar and and and Dana work together?
01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:23.119
Do you want to see uh Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben?
01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:25.199
I mean, who do you have winning that fight?
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:28.800
I think we all have Ryan Garcia, but you know, Connor Ben might find.
01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:32.720
I mean, hey, these are the two guys who both so pop, so they should just make an agreement.
01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:34.239
Like, look, you take what you want to take.
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:38.720
I take what I want to take, and we figure it out afterwards.
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:40.560
No, listen, make an agreement.
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.279
Connor's a live dog in that fight because one, you you don't know what Ryan's gonna show up.
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:47.840
Roley did beat Ryan, and that's true.
01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:50.000
I told you, I think Ryan's a front runner.
01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:58.479
If you can hurt him early and you can show him this isn't a walk in the park, he doesn't fight the same as when he has a lot of confidence.
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So don't get it twisted.
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:05.520
Connor Ben is not a pump, but I still think Ryan will whoop his ass.
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:09.920
Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.239
That's Caden, I'm complex, guys.
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We'll see y'all next week.
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Thank you for joining.
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Hello and welcome to Corner to Corner.
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I'm Caden.
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What's good?
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It's your boy Complex, and what a weekend of boxing.
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We had two monsters hit the land on other sides of the world.
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Shout out to anyway.
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Shout out to Benavidez.
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Hide your kids.
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Had your wife.
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The monsters are loose.
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Damn.
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I don't believe in monsters.
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Unless it's monsters ain't.
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All right, but um, nah, shout out to anyway and shout out to David Benavidez.
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The question we're asking, did David Benavidez enter the pound-for-pound list and take over Senko de Mayo with his victory over Zordo Ramirez?
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Because that was Canelo Alvarez Day.
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And Canelo Alvarez was in attendance to support Jami Mungia, but he still got to see uh David Benavidez.
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And he actually picked David Benavidez to win the fight.
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Uh, we're gonna take a quick look at the combination that ended the fight, and it was swift, quick, and accurate.
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Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
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Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang.
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And Zoto was like, I dog.
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You know what?
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I'm gonna take this knee and not he's like, which one of y'all hit me?
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He's like, that's just too many, too many hits.
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I was like, that was crazy.
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Before the fight, you saw them go into David Benavidez locker room.
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You saw Iron Mike Tyson there, you saw Roy Jones, Ryan Garcia.
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David Benavidez is becoming your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.
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So complex, what we're what we're asking is did David Benavidez enter the top 10 pound for pound list with his victory because this makes him a champion in another weight class.
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And also, is he officially the guy?
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Like if he says, I want Senko Damayo Canelo has to step aside.
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Yo, I hope so.
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And first off, RIP G, shout out to G.
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G was a big Benavidez fan.
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Yeah, so I know G smiling down right now.
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He's like, I told y'all, I told y'all.
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But um, no, for real, man.
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Look, David Benavidez did the dang thing.
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And well, I'm one, I'm so proud of him because this is a case of if you build it, they will come.
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You know, it's for so long, it seemed like in boxing the only way to make your name was uh to make a name for yourself was to beat somebody else, right?
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And kind of build off of their name.
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And for a long time, obviously, he was um terrorizing the 168-pound division, you know.
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He was he he only lost the belt because of uh, I believe one was a drug case where she was like like cocaine or something, and then the other one where he lost it on the weight scale.
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Yeah, and if people were really questioning him and his his dedication to the sport and things like that.
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Seems like he course-corrected that, got back on track, and since then he has not lost or nothing, has not looked even remotely in trouble, you know, or just he's just been so dominant.
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And um, honestly, uh he should have been on the pound for pound list already, real realistically.
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I mean, as good as he was, like clearly or already at 168, he was pretty much dominating.
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Now, obviously, he got it, he was at a time where Canelo was in the 168-pound division, and Canelo was clearly avoiding him, so he couldn't uh operate within the 168-pound division the way he wanted to because Canelo has scooped up all the belts.
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Um, but he was uh champion um at 168 and he lost the belt.
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I think he took a few more fights there, hoping to get the Canelo fight.
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It never happened.
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He moves up to 174.
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Uh 175, wins another belt, right?
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Becomes champion in two-way classes now.
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Um, still trying to get the big fights.
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No, he's champion in I know at least three.
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Well, no, that's what I'm saying.
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So well, he was he was champion at 168, but he technically lost the belt, and then Canelo won the vacant belt.
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Okay, and then he never got to fight for the belt again.
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So he was technically, yeah, he was he was a two-time champion at 168.
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But he I thought I thought I heard you say he was champion in two weight classes.
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So that's my no sorry, yeah.
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No, well, well, that was his second at that time when he moved up to 175, became a champion in his second weight class, right?
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Champion, um, obviously had the hasn't gotten a chance to fight the big dogs because of you know a lot of boxing politics and things like that, but he's clearly um you know one of the best in the world, then moves up another weight class to 200 pounds and then stops a unified champion.
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I mean, that's he's gotta be like at least top five pound for pound.
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Maybe you can make a case for top three.
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All right, so I mean you you brought us right into a good point.
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So just stop you uh briefly, and then I'll for a second.
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This is ESPN's pound for pound list, Usick number one, no dispute, Naoya NUA, number two, bam Rodriguez number three, um, Shakur Stevenson number four.
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They have David Benavidez at number five.
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Um, so he is in at number five.
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So let's say this does he move up on your list?
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Does he surpass Shakur?
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Uh Jesse Rodriguez in your way with this performance.
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I mean, I think you can make the case because he's done um well, this is the thing.
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This is why I like um what he's done more.
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I would put him at um number three.
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Who do they have?
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Uh Shakur?
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They have uh Jesse Rodriguez at number three.
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Oh bam, bam, yeah.
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Yeah, okay.
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This is the thing, and respect to the way class because I just shot out anyway as well.
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Those guys, when they move up weight classes, it's three pounds, right?
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It's like they go from 112 to 115 to 118 to 122 to 125, something like that, right?
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It's like literally three or one twenty-six, yeah.
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130, 130.
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It's like you move three, four pounds, right?
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So those guys can be multiple time weight champions by the time they've moved up 50, 10, 15 pounds, and they can avoid each other easier, too.
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People don't talk about that, right?
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Because there's a lot more weight classes.
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Oh, I moved up, I moved up, or whatever.
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Yeah, it's like you moved three pounds.
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It's like what we're talking about here, yeah.
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And I get you know, I'm sure people are gonna say, well, there's smaller guys, so that weight matters more fine, whatever.
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But at the end of the day, moving from 175 to 200, it's a big difference because you could see um uh Ramirez uh was a big dude comparatively to um to Benavidez.
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So and the fact that he stopped him, I was even curious, it's like, will he be able to stop him?
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Because I was like, he looks small visibly smaller than him.
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He can't weighed in less.
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So I would move him up.
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So I think that is already they've already updated their pond for pound rankings to include this fight, but I would still I would say he's at least number three because you you you can't be he hasn't lost, right?
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Um, obviously, but then also he's stopping guys, and he's stopping guys bigger, he's moving up.
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I love Shakur and Shakur.
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I think Shakur's a great pure boxer, but like I think Shakur's not had that many dominant, like sometimes Shakur has thinkers in there, you know what I'm saying?
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Like where he's dominating a guy, but it's not that great of a fight or whatever.
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David Benavides has never had a bad fight.
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You can't say that you know David Benavidez is clearly like he's out there to hurt you, and and also if you remember Jake Paul, when he was talking about opponents, he was like, Yeah, one guy wouldn't fight is David Benavidez, and you can see why because Benavides is gonna hurt you, it's not about like uh one big punch or whatever, like David Benavides can put hands in your world and look what it did to uh to Zerto.
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So, shout out to him.
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Then the last point is just the weekend.
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I think he should take over the weekend.
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Um, not saying that you know, obviously Canelo can't come back, but Canelo's kind of already had his run, and Canelo kind of is towards the end of his career.
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I feel like Canelo can try to come back.
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Although Benavidez did call him out at the end of the fight, right?
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And which is you know, whatever.
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And Canelo was in attendance, so now you're watching him.
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You know, I'm saying you you try to box him out.
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Now you're in this in the in the crowd watching him fight, so you know, I see how Rhodes were.
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I mean, yeah, he's there to support Jaime.
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I'm not saying he's at Canelo's level because Canelo was like a is like a mega mega star, but like yeah, I want him to continue this, like yo, set up the fight for um you know September 14, 15, or whatever, keep doing the thing, keep building.
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If you build it, they will come, right?
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And yo, I think his ability to like really take over, um, where he's gonna get to a point where he can go back down to 175, defend there, win there, win more belts there, go back up to 200.
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You know, he has so much more options now.
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So, shout out to David Benavidez, man.
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What a performance!
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All right, first I want to start by addressing the whole Canelo business.
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I actually thought it was great that Canelo was in attendance, and I wish more fighters would do this because some people try to make it an adversarial thing when David Benavidez said he's fighting on Sanco de Mayo.
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And I actually love that he said he's taking a date, he's gonna fight on a date, and I love the fact that Canelo showed up because they're both Mexican at the end of the day.
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And the fact that um Benavidez is gonna fight on Sanco de Mayo, and you have all these uh fighters of Mexican descent putting on a show, it's great for Mexico.
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So they put the main, they made they left the main thing, the main thing, and they went there to have a good night.
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Which I've heard David Benavidez speak about Canelo, and he've called he's called him the P word and said things about him.
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But in this particular uh exchange, when Canelo was there, he he he told what I believe is the truth.
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I have a lot of respect for Canelo.
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He's been great for the sport, but I want my opportunity to face him.
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Excuse me.
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And I do think that David Benavidez has earned the right to face Canelo based on how he built his name up without having to fight Canelo, which was what I was saying he should do from the beginning.
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Because if you're Canelo at this stage in your career, you're chasing the bag.
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You're a bag chaser, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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You fought and you've earned the right.
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So he fought Terrence Bud Crawford, 41 million people watch it on Netflix.
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He secured a lot of money.
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He wasn't gonna get that with David Benavidez.
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But let's say after David Benavidez's performance last night against Ramirez, right?
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Or I should say this morning, really, because that's when they got a ring.
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That's why I'm tired as hell right now.
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But after that performance, if you made Canelo Benavidez, that's a Netflix blockbuster now.
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And this is what I try to tell people when they say, Oh, you're advocating for fighters to duck and dodge.
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No, sometimes you have to invest in a potential blockbuster.
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Like, it's like investing in the market, it's investing.
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You're investing in this, right?
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There's a risk, there's always a risk.
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Someone can lose it, can break.
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Canelo lost to um to Crawford, but he's going back in the ring with Embilie.
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Let's just say Canelo looks good against Mbili.
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And he says, I want Benavidez.
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Now we're talking about another blockbuster on Netflix, and it's all possible because David Benavidez went out to build his own name and he didn't sit back waiting for the Canelo fight, which is what I was advocating for.
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Yeah.
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But but that's that's how you do it, which is what I was advocating for the entire time.
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David Benavidez is a massive risk to Canelo Alvarez.
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And in fact, in the history of boxing, this is the way it's always been, right?
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Um Chavez Sr.
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fought Oscar Delahoya knowing that Oscar was the young upstart, he passed the torch to him.
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This is how you do it.
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You pass the torch.
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So Canelo must pass the torch in the ring if we're going by old school rules.
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But what David Benavidez is saying, I'll take it without you facing me, but I'd rather have the opportunity to share the ring with you and the opportunity to take it.
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So one, I don't have any issues with the way this played out because to me it only made it a bigger fight.
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And it made it a bigger fight because David Benavidez has elevated his profile.
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Speaking of David Benavidez elevating his profile, they have him at top five.
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I agree with you.
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I would put him at number three.
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So Usyk is clearly number one to me.
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Undisputed at cruiserweight, undisputed heavyweight champion.
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Usik is giving away belts so he can try to get him back just to make it interesting.
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Right?
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Inue has done it at multiple weight classes, and he's still going undefeated, talented fighter.
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Bam Rodriguez is slightly below uh inue to me, but where I place Benavidez above Bam is like you said, complex.
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David Benavidez is doing this at a heavier weight.
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He's the first Mexican fighter, or the first boxer of Mexican descent, to do this at the higher weight classes.
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And again, this is more because um usually uh fighters of Mexican descent aren't in those weight classes because their size, they're not usually that big.
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So they're not in that weight class.
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And we're starting to see this, and he's unique and he made history, and so he's he's you know, uh he's creating a new lane.
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And for me, you have to respect that, and it's something that we haven't seen in the sport of boxing.
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We've seen fighters do what BAM has done, has been doing, but David's putting on for fighters of Mexican descent in a new way, in a different way.
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And I and I and I think he's also had he has that it factor where you got Roy Jones, you got Ryan Garcia, you got Mike Tyson, you got celebs in there.
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Because, and look at the way he did uh Ramirez.
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It's not just like you said, he didn't just win.
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He hit him with like the 50-piece uh you know, you you you you you powered up in Street Fighter.
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Now you get a combination and you get to finish up.
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Like that's what that's what he did to Zordo.
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Like you said, Zordo was like, which one of y'all hit me?
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Zordo thought the ref was in on it.
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Like, you know, so you gotta uh give David Benavidez his props.
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So to me, I'd put him in at number three.
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Although number four, I mean number five isn't bad, they have Shakur over him.
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I would put David Benavidez in over Shakur.
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So even if you want to leave Bam, I would put him in over Shakur.
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Although I think Shakur at four or five is right for Shakur, skill-wise.
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But again, we talk about what is the pound for pound list?
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Is the pound for pound list, if they all were in the same weight class, who would win?
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If that's how you look at it, and you want to put Shakur over David Benavidez, fine.
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But I'm gonna be honest with you.
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If Shakur and David Benavidez were in the same weight class, I don't know who would win that fight.
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Skill for skill.
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Because David Benavidez is that skill.
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He just doesn't move, he just stands there and he figures out a way to avoid your onslaught.
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But he doesn't want to move because he wants to be able to hit you with his stuff once you get tired.
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So, anyways, um, to say all that, I I think Benavidez at five is fine, but I would put him at three, four the lowest.
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Um, but five is not that far off.
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Um, if you have him at five, which ESPN does, and their list is updated.
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Um and just to get to Sanco de Mayo.
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I love the fact that there was support.
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You know, and I want that throughout boxing.
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I'm sick of like the there could only be one crap on a guy who loses crap on we don't need that.
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That's not what it's about.
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That's not what the sport's about, that's not what it's about.
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So David Benavidez wants to fight on Sanco de Mayo, cool.
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If Canelo wanted to fight on Sanco de Mayo, it would be dope if they were fighting each other on Sanco de Mayo, but they could also work it out in a way where they could do it and they can both make money off of it.
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Like that would be awesome.
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Imagine Canelo and David Benavidez fighting, and even if they want to do it at different arenas, you can time it so that people can watch the fight or package it so that they can pay for both fights.
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But you don't have to uh make it an adversarial thing.
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So that's what I like about it.
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David Benavidez, he he's done enough to represent on Senko de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day if that's what he wants to do.
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But Canelo has also done that.
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So respect to both of them, gentlemen.
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Now, what do you think about a potential move to heavyweight?
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He was asked about that a lot.
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He did answer it, but what do you think?
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Do you think he could ever hang at heavyweight?
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I think if he's gonna go to heavyweight, he's gonna have to avoid a lot of the punches that he stands there and take right now.
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Like against Zordo, he stood there, he was able to like withstand punches on the forearms, the gloves.
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I don't think he's able to do that at heavyweight.
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When you have like Daniel Dubois as I think if he hits Daniel Dubois and he hits him with a 50 piece, I think I think he's golden, he's good.
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I worry about his defense and these fighters hitting him and the impact it would have on him.
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I'm not gonna write him off, though, because you saw what Holyfield was able to do, you see what Usick was able to do.
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But I will say that he's gonna have to defend himself differently at heavyweight.
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So that that would be my only concern for David Benavidez.
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No, that's a great point.
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Um, I do think he did mention that like he's not gonna do it right now because he still has business, he will score back down to 175 and things like that.
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So he's like if he goes to heavyweight, he will he would never pretty much come back down.
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And we've seen guys who go to heavyweight and then come back down.
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Obviously, Roger's Jr.
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didn't work out that great.
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So if that makes sense, you know what I mean?
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But I do think, and I do think he can be a future heavyweight champion potentially, depending on the right opponent, the right, you know, personnel within the belt or whatever.
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Um is small, he would be small for the heavyweight division.
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Obviously, there's been smaller guys, but he's about six feet.
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He was clearly shorter than uh Zerto, although that didn't matter.
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But um, you know, at heavyweight, there's guys who are like 6'6, 6'7, 6'8, yeah, 6'9, uh, whatever.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, there's guys at multiple um that would be way taller, like a head ahead over him.
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So that's just a different type of fight that I think he'd have to prepare for.
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Who named him the Mexican monster?
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Iron Mike Tyson.
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He's like 5'8, 5'10.
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So true.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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Like, obviously, like I said, there's guys who've been shorter, Mike Tyson, obviously, being a special uh case, I think.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, look, I I I I'm a big, I'm huge on Benavidez.
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Like, he's he's going up, and I'm I'm I'm I'm betting on him.
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Um, yeah, I think this was an amazing performance.
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I kind of had a feeling, and then if he can get something going, oh, we uh the other thing, Jai Alpatay.
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He talked about him, he was asked about him.
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He made some interesting comments.
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He said, you know, Jai is like, well, he's like, I don't know why Jai signed with Zufa, right?
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Like, we could have made this fight next.
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He's like, I'm definitely not going over there to fight for no Zufa belt.
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So he's like, and it seems like Dana White, he's like just from the outside, doesn't really want to work with other promoters, which is all true, which is Dana White, you know what I mean?
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So it's like he's like, I'd be down to fight him, I just don't know like how it's gonna work or whatever, right?
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And that's why I think that he made some really good points.
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I think they they did too much with Jai.
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Oh, the one thing Jai also tweeted enjoy your victory, see you soon.
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So it looks like Jai wants to smoke that.
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Yeah, but I think what I think I think he makes a good point.
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You know, Zufa is kind of still out in the open.
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They don't have they haven't created that the law yet, so they're not officially official, whatever, um, in terms of their UB organization.
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Um, they have a bunch of fighters on the contract.
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Oh, yeah, there's a video.
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I mean, I think that's the biggest fight in the world, especially the weight division.
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You know what I mean?
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That's definitely a fight in the world.
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If you want to see if um, you can make it like I have a decision, you know, but now I don't know if you can show IDF.
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You can't make it five.
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Um if we can go to the week, make a quick five.
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All right.
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:05.839
So that's the uh that's the video you were uh speaking about conference references, yeah.
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Yeah, so since uh since I saw that, I'll get there.
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So I'm in a conference uh at the hotel, a conference room at the hotel and the lights went off.
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So I'm gonna turn that back on.
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But yeah, uh complex, you could continue real quick.
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:18.319
I was going to go.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No worries, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But basically, he made some good points.
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And this is the thing.
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I think that Jay's team messed up, uh, they didn't read the contract or whatever, and Zuffa overplayed their hand with him by trying to put the Zufa belt on him right away.
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It was unnecessary.
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He's the IBF champ.
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You could have put on a separate fight, and maybe they because oh, you know, you made all this big deal about well, we're not working with these sanctioned bodies, whatever.
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Like, you still need them at some point, and you know, you just still, especially if that's what your fighter wants.
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:51.759
Your fighter keeps saying, I want undisputed.
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He doesn't want to be just the Zufa champion, he wants to be the world champion with all the belts, right?
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So you know the not the Zufa world champion, he wants to be the real world champion, and that's the thing, they should have waited until he got other belts or whatever, then they could have played the whole, oh yeah, we don't need them, we're dropping them, whatever.
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:18.400
He still got the ring belt, which mat which means something, but it kind of doesn't when you got somebody like Benavidez coming in here.
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If Benavides comes in and wins all the other belts without without that, he's clearly you know the undisputed whatever.
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I mean, he doesn't need the ring belt to say that, so um, you know, I I just think um they overplayed their hand with Jai, but I think Jai wants to fight, so hopefully we'll see it.
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.920
That'd be a crazy fight opaya versus uh Benavidez.
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Uh uh, I don't know if they could do that by this September, but at some point, like that's a huge fight.
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I'm speaking for myself.
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I'd rather see Benavidez Baval at 175, and then I'd rather see if Canelo is willing to step in the ring with him to pass the torch.
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I think Benavidez made himself a lucrative fight now to where Canelo can really look at it and say, you know what, it's high risk, but it's also a good reward to fight him.
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I think he's entered that territory now.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true.
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So, I mean, look, Benavidez got a lot of options at either cruiserweight or light heavyweight.
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Um, so shout out to him.
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But look, let us know what y'all think in the comments, man.
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What did y'all think of the fight?
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What did you think of the 30-piece combos he was hitting them with?
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I mean, those look like you took a speed up like in a video game.
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It's like it's like you got the like the magic fruit, and now it's like he was popping them so fast.
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Like, I would be so mad.
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Imagine you train that much in that many months, and then it's like you walk in there and this dude's just popping you like 10 times, like, and that's that's boxing.
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That's boxing, man.
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Crazy, crazy.
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But yo, what do y'all think in the comments?
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What do you think about Benavidez?
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Do you think he runs the gauntlet at Cruiserweight?
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Uh right, heavyweight.
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Is he about to just run roughshot?
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Does he ever go up to heavyweight?
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You know, what do y'all think?
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Let us know in the comments.
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That's caden.
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I'm complex, guys.
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Caden complex corner to corner.
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We see you on the next one.
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The next topic we're going to discuss is Christian Pringa, AJ's next opponent.
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Said AJ made a mistake picking him, hence the rematch clause, because there is a rematch clause.
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We'll get into our take on uh Anthony Joshua's choice of a tune-up fight of everything.
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And but first, let's get to the business.
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This is the Zone Boxing reporting that uh Christian Pringer has promised to ruin Anthony Joshua's plans to fight Tyson Ferry, which has been announced.
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Anthony Joshua's returning on July 25th.
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Uh, and here's what he said, Christian uh Pringer.
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He said he made a terrible miscalculation picking me.
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Okay, so he's speaking with his chest, okay?
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.759
He got the spicy talk going, and that's all good.
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.559
But he's not the only one with the spicy talk.
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Uh his manager was speaking about uh this fight, and this is what uh he had to say as well.
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I really think Joshua's team made a miscalculation here in lining up Pranga, a relatively unknown heavyweight, admittedly.
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Uh a guy who has not been on the world stage, but a guy who's got a tough right hand, a guy who's durable, who can hang in there, and he's gonna steal the thunder that night, shock the world.
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If that does happen, uh is a rematch clause, or would you look to get a fury by on if you if if Christian wins?
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If it happens, we're gonna look, you know.
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You can see the giddiness coming across my face.
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Uh you know, we would look to fight Fury.
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Um there is a rematch clause.
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But um I just think if if Joshua doesn't win this fight, he's finished.
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It's over, fam.
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I really think Joshua's team made a miscalculation.
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Oh, he's speaking out of both sides of his mouth now.
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But anyways, we're gonna listen to what uh Lou de Bella had to say because he was on Ariel Hawani's show, just he was unloading on everyone pause.
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Basically, he was just unfiltered.
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Lou de Bella unfiltered.
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Here's what he had to say about Anthony Joshua versus Christian Prenga.
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I'll give you another thing that doesn't help.
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Christian Prenga doesn't help when you're out there shitting all over TKO for the mediocrity of their product.
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You're out there attacking them.
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They just started, they're not really doing product much different than the ordinary pedestrian shit you're doing on the zone, and you're out there trying to kill them, but then you just made a guy that's we're telling everyone correctly, the possible Hall of Famer.
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I think if if if Joshua beats Fury, he seals it completely.
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Oh, for sure.
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He's a Hall of Famer, and he's probably a Hall of Famer already.
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I mean, he's close.
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I mean, he should probably is.
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I mean, he's he's certainly shouldn't be in the ring with a doorman.
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And that's what Christian Prank is.
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I know him very well.
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I tried to sign him multiple times as an opponent, more as an opponent who sold tickets for Broadway boxing to fight other pedestrian sort of heavyweights that I thought he wouldn't even beat.
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But he was a ticket seller.
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He is a very physically strong, just cock strong dude.
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He's just like a doorman, like a literally a doorman at a nightclub kind of guy.
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But you wouldn't want to be hit flush by him if you weren't looking, the kick and punch if you're if you be slow, but I mean if you if if you don't see him and he telegraphs a punch at you and it lands, he might hurt you.
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But does he belong near Anthony?
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It doesn't belong in the same freaking gym, doesn't belong in the same state or country, doesn't belong in a sparring session.
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In fact, the people around Anthony wouldn't really pick him as a sparring partner against a good heavyweight because he's not going to give you that kind of work.
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You know, he had a lot of knockouts on his record.
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He's got a 21-on-one record, even though he fought Bozo the clowns.
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Um Is there okay?
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So I understand I had mixed feelings about the NFTs.
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That's not a fight, dude.
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No, that's an attraction.
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It's a grace to be had to the fact that he accidentally.
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No, dude, come on, man.
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What about the fact that they told him to fight?
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Or it's not fighting a tune up.
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Why didn't you just fight you, man?
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I'm not an actual fight.
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If you look at his career everywhere, 35 years old.
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Yes.
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Look at his whole career.
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I'm not easy.
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Is it living out fighting?
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No, no.
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It's not a fight.
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It's a tune-up.
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It's not isn't a tune-up.
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What are you tuning up?
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The fuck are you tuning up?
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How are you getting better?
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Fighting a guy that can't fight at all?
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For the record, I hate the fact that we're not getting fury judgments.
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I didn't give a shit about that.
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You know what?
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If he needed, first of all, I don't get the argument he needed to fight Deontay.
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He didn't need to fight just fortunate.
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What the fuck does he have to fight?
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And then he got into a car.
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So what?
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And he almost died.
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Well, well, well, I mean, uh, that's a little bit uh I mean he didn't card to people in the car died, but he wasn't seriously hurt, but that's neither here nor there.
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With his confidence shock because people die.
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What explained to me the no?
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Come on, man, stop it.
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What is what am I talking about?
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He's fighting a hobby.
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I don't want to call Prang a hobo.
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You know what?
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Prang is actually, he will go and he will try.
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If you went to Christian Prang, I actually think Prang is the kind of guy, if he was being honest with you, who's so self-aware, he knows he just hit the lottery.
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Of course.
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What do you think he's getting paid for this, by the way?
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I got probably seven figures.
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I mean, not even close, right?
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Like dude, he hasn't made in this one fight, he's getting more than his entire career.
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What I heard he's getting is what he's getting.
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It's a good deal.
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He's made more in one-tenth of this purse will be higher than the entirety he's ever been paid in his career, basically.
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Wow.
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Or similar.
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He actually is the kind of guy, though, that made a couple of like small, like with a you know, like um club show kind of paydays because he's an Albanian kid with a very big following in the Albanian community.
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Okay.
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And he would sell some tickets in local shows to Albanian kids.
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So he would get like a percentage of ticket sales.
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But in terms of like ever getting a real purse, he never got a television purse.
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Probably I'd be surprised if he ever made more than 10 grand.
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:23.039
Okay.
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.279
Wow.
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So now he's gonna go to a million bucks.
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And by the way, because not because he earned it in any way, look who he lost to, man.
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Is the issue that he is fighting AJ, that AJ is fighting anyone, or is that the match?
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If you're gonna fight, like there's zero purpose to it.
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No one, you if you can't articulate a purpose to me, it shouldn't be happening.
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There's zero chance of the wrong thing happening unless I don't think AJ shot enough that he's gonna close his eyes in the ring.
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He'd have to not see a punch coming.
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That's Ludabella's breakdown of uh Christian Pringer.
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So uh complex.
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.839
One, did Anthony Joshua make a mistake, a miscalculation?
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:24.000
Picking uh Christian Prager because Praga's gonna beat him and then try to get Tyson Fury, or is Pranga so trash he doesn't even belong in the same gym in the same state as Anthony Joshua?
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What are you buying?
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And do you think a tune up is necessary?
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That's so funny.
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Shout out to Lizabella, nobody breaks it down like him.
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Um, it's only a mistake in the sense of like nobody wants to watch this.
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When when they announced that, remember I put the Con McGregor meaning, like, who is who the fuck is this guy?
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Who is this guy?
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I've never heard I don't know, I don't know this man, never heard nothing about him, and that's fine.
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.119
But I don't uh me personally, I'm not interested in watching glorified sparring sessions.
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Even even Deontay Wilder, you know, I'm a big Deontay Wilder stand when he fought that guy in Nebraska or whatever.
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I didn't watch, I'm not watching that.
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Who is this guy?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, this isn't a fight, this isn't whatever.
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And then even I watched it afterwards, and I was like, Yeah, exactly right.
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It was a terrible fight, you know.
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Um, but I just think like, you know, it is what it is.
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If you know, I don't know who else he could have fought.
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:27.599
I think there's probably guys closer to the top 10, top 15, top 20, maybe that could have been a better opponent that he still would have like been able to fight and beat.
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.799
Like the the guy Tyson Ferry fought was like a perfect opponent.
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Guys like big, you know, slow guy, whatever, but he's still like on the kind of world level, he's beating some people and whatever, but you can clearly beat him.
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Um the only thing is like, yeah, if he slips on a banana peel, obviously, if if if AJ goes in there and somehow slips on a banana peel and and hurts himself, or yeah, messes up somehow and gets bopped by this guy randomly, you know what I mean?
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Like a random thing.
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Clearly, that's possible.
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.240
But um, you know, I I think yeah, you should have just gone into the fury fight.
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Like you you did fight recently.
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The whole and and and Lou makes a good case, the whole car the car, not Chase, but car crash thing, like that is like it was a super unfortunate thing.
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But I don't think he was actually hurt.
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Now, obviously, those kind of crashes you can shake up your body and you don't know what, you know, I mean there's things internally that could happen, but it's been enough months away that I would think, like, okay, is there do you do you is there anything that happened or you feel you know what I'm saying?
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Freaking what's his name?
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Flipped his car.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:40.960
Um uh Spence flipped his like whatever Ferrari or something, he came back and he fought like later on.
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Didn't take a tune, but he just came back in and came right back into the world scene.
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Nobody died in the complex.
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He was in the car by himself.
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If somebody else was in the car, they might have unfortunately, and he was the one driving, you know what I'm saying?
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:56.800
So, anyways, um, look, whatever.
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Yeah, I I don't I I don't particularly care to watch this fight.
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I just hope that you know AJ doesn't mess up.
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You know, don't don't slip up and let this kid hit you or whatever.
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This doorman, apparently.
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Lou made some good points when you think about it.
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He's like, he's 35.
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He's like, what career?
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He's not a fight, he's 35, but it's like, yeah, 35, you're 21 and one, or whatever.
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It's like you've been doing it for how many years?
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You probably just do it like everyone.
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He got a lot of knockouts because he said, because he fought Bozo the clowns apparently.
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So it's like this is something the dude does on the side, like you know, I'm saying, like, oh, I box on the side, he probably has like a regular job doing something else or whatever.
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Um, but you know, yeah.
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I I mean, if the kid does it, if the dude uh kid he's 35, what am I talking about?
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If the dude does it, if he gets a way to like knock or hurt, even hurt Anthony Joshua, you know what I'm saying?
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Even if it hurts him, that would be incredible, you know what I'm saying?
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For him, I'm sure you saw his manager all like even just the thought of like, oh yeah, we can, you know what I mean?
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He got so happy.
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It's like, sir, if you don't calm down, you don't go anywhere there.
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I need to change my underwears right now.
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Yeah, but um, whatever.
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Who knows?
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I don't I I just I'm so indifferent to the fight, I don't really care.
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Man, y'all gotta stop, man.
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See, this is the problem.
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AJ gets the most unrealistic expectations of any fighter I've ever seen.
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Like, y'all really want him to go into the fight with Tyson Fury after going rounds with Jake Paul.
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Personally, I don't believe he was even allowed to tag Jake Paul until he got a green light, and then he went in there and he tried to do something.
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This is about one timing, getting in timing, setting things up.
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This is a glorified sparring session, there's no doubt about it, but so was Tyson Fury's fight with uh Madmurdoff or whatever.
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You know, that guy looked horrible in the ring against uh Dave Allen.
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So people gotta be honest, right?
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Tyson Fury picked a glorified sparring session on Netflix.
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Now it was cool.
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What Anthony Joshua had with Jake Paul can't even qualify as a glorified sparring session.
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It was a sideshow, right?
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What he had with Francis Ngano, that was more of a sparring session because there was some jeopardy there, there was some fear there.
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That's why AJ knocked his ass out like he did.
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You understand?
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You need that AJ's walking in against the doorman, yeah.
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Excuse me, but how many times in boxing have we seen the doorman, the taxi driver, the plumber, land a good shot, almost win.
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It happens.
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You need some jeopardy there.
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You can't take away the fact that this is a man who has had uh over 20 professional fights.
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He has knockouts, like Ludabella said, if you get caught, he can hurt you.
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Okay, so he's legit.
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He doesn't have a good shot, but he still has a purchase chance.
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Jake had no chance in anybody's hell.
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He had no chance.
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So it's a real guy, just like Madramar.
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So Tyson Fury beat that guy.
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AJ can't fight him now because you know, it's gonna look bad or whatever.
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So you pick the door man, so he's gonna open the door for AJ to walk into the fight with Tyson Fury.
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Great.
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Talking about this car accident and acting like him stepping in the ring for the first time without his brothers by him by his side, may not impact him in a certain way, is being disingenuous.
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And we spoke about this.
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You saw Oliver McCall crying in the ring when he fought Lennox Lewis.
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If you look at Gary Antoine Russell when he returned to the ring for the first time fighting without his dad, and he had his brother Gary Russell Jr.
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in the corner, he was a bit emotional and he was a bit out of it.
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He didn't perform at his best.
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You don't know.
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You don't know how someone's gonna respond physically, how someone's gonna respond mentally.
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So you just want to get him in there, get him some rounds, and then get him into the Tyson Fury fight.
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And now you have Tyson Fury saying that he he wants another tune-up fight.
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Tyson.
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Saying he wants to fight someone else now.
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So why is Tyson so worried about this guy who everyone's so again, all these fighters want to feel at their best.
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It's not about the opponent, it's about feeling like you can pull the trigger when you need to.
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It's about feeling like your timing's right.
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It's about feeling like your stamina's right.
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It's about feeling like you're as close to being at your best, at your peak as possible.
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That's what this is about.
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The other thing I want to address it and I'm done with this situation, is a lot of the double talking.
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The manager said AJ made a miscalculation.
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He's getting giddy about thinking about Christian Pringer beating Anthony Joshua.
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But then in the same breath, he says if Christian Pringer beats Anthony Joshua, Anthony Joshua should retire.
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If you think Pringer's that good, why should he retire if he loses?
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Lou DeBella saying Pringer's garbage and all this stuff, and he was signing Pranger so he could put him in against some of his real guys so that he can lose.
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If you were gonna do that and that was your intent, why are you mad when AJ's doing it?
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So, like, yo, my man, you gotta calm down.
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I'm with you, I feel you, dog.
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But you can't be talking out of both sizes about that's all I got.
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Well, like you said, I think he expects more of AJ because he's like AJ's a Hall of Famer.
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His guys were just his Broadway boxing.
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If it's like uh he does it like on um in Times Square, like a show, it's just like a low, it's like a I don't know, like a local show or whatever, you know.
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I'm saying local boxers or something.
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Um but hey, who knows?
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Maybe this kid is or kid, I keep calling a kid, he's 35.
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Maybe this guy is gonna shock the world, you know what I'm saying?
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Um, I was just trying to look at the box rec.
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I because I don't know who else does like more than top 10 rankings or whatever of like fighters or something.
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I'm trying to see who else he could have fought potentially.
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I mean, outside of the top 10, um, I mean, there's guys like there's names you might see, like um you know, Gerrell Miller, big baby Miller's there.
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I just fought.
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Um, right, but I mean they should have, yeah.
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He just fought.
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I guess, but he can probably fight.
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They uh they if they could have they could have figured something out, assuming he won, they could have just gone into that.
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But um uh Lewis Ortiz is still ranked high somehow.
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Uh one's lost time.
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He's ranked at number 20, which is crazy to me.
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I'm like, this has gotta be wrong.
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What that's weird, anyways.
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Um I'm trying to think.
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Yeah, that's the point.
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Oh, he he already fought Pulev, right?
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Yeah, yep.
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I mean already.
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There's other names here.
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I just I'm just not saying them.
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Like, there's FA jogba, but I think that's too dangerous.
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F is in Zoofa, and I don't think that's a dangerous fight.
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I think he'll two FA up, but FA's with Zufa.
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Um, Justice Honey, or he just fought too.
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Oh no, he could probably get F A because Zufa and and um re edge they work they work together, yeah.
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Yeah, that doesn't matter.
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So he couldn't get yeah.
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FA would have been a good fight.
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I just think that, but I don't want anybody FA does have a punch, like if if if you catch if you play around with FA, he he catches you.
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FA is what Christian Pranger is.
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You're basically saying you just wanted him to fight a different version of Christian Pranger.
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No, you think Christian Pranger is what you think you think Christian Prenga I think FA has uh a big telegraph right hand, and he just said the same thing about Christian Pranger.
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So yeah, well, every guy in the world has a big right hand, every every guy's gonna throw thinks their right hand could knock any man out.
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No, I'm saying I'm giving I'm giving uh I'm giving FA Joppa the stamp that he has a a decent good right hand, right?
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That's it though.
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Same with Prager, apparently.
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So I guess.
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I mean what yeah, yeah, I mean what what see well look hey it's it's happening what in july or something like that so we'll see how age is yeah yeah we'll see how age is if he's not shook up from the you know can he pull himself together and loop did make some good points he's like what is he what is he tuning up or what is he have to what does he have to his confidence shock that's like I love how he just asks like the main questions like what are we talking about here like what like but you're right time when you get it toot up for your car right yeah oil done you get it all worked up and so that it performs well when you he's tuning that's what he's tuning up he's fine tuning his timing everything stop it you get your tires rotated stop playing there y'all so aj's about to go in there rotate his tires he's getting he's getting the oil changed he's getting he's getting he's getting the performance ready so when he's in theory you know he doesn't blow a gasket oh man all right y'all let us know what y'all think in the comments so what is so what is he uh yeah I think better fighter than y'all are giving him credit for go on youtube and pull up prank's fights he actually is better than they're giving him credit for I think he's the best opponent aj could pick at this time he was the best tutor available okay this is the minus right here that's that's what it that's what it is all right so he's gonna talk about Toyota those things are run no matter what this kid hey this kid's been able to sell tickets okay he's been able to get a percentage he has a fan base this is the best he could get for what it is and this kid is good don't be surprised listen i'm gonna tell you right now low key this kid he could upset some of the guys in the top 50 that's what i think hey well we're about to find out if he that's what that's what i think you know puts that right hand uh on on aj's chin let's see what happens if he's if he's not if he's not paying attention right he's gonna be like aj look over there that's always gonna catch one lapse and judgment is over it could be over for AJ that's the jeopardy in this fight there you go so AJ's got to focus is tuning up his his his attention to detail skills because he was like if I don't pay attention this guy get knocked out so that's what yeah yeah that wasn't there with uh Jake the fair factor was a deal with Jake were you genuinely worried at what's coming back at you that was a deal with Jake yeah well look man let us know what y'all think in the comments sorry I'm yawning um you know is this fight it was Lou the Bell did he make some good points or was Lou just hating it was Lou being a big hater you know uh that does Christian bring out the punchers chance and is he gonna shock the world you know what happens if AJ does uh you know slip up and something happens what do does a fury fight happen and should fury fight another uh uh tune up in between times he's a problem now it's like levels upon levels right now tune ups upon tune ups man just make the fight guys please but uh hopefully this happens at the end of this year corner to corner caden and complex we'll see on the next one the IRS threatens to revoke Floyd Mayweather's passport if he doesn't pay his debt so there's a lot of rumors floating around about Floyd he's fighting him showing off his watch collection and everything but a report from Ring magazine says Floyd Mayweather's plan exhibitions against kickboxer Mike Zambidis and Mike Tyson are in jeopardy after the IRS notified him of its intention to have his U.S.
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passport revoked due to an unresolved seriously delinquent tax debt upward of two point a 7.25 million according to documents reviewed by the rank and this story is from Mike Confinger so you know consider the source I mean you know although he's not the only one reporting this but because I actually saw it from another um business um publication all right now Steven Espinoza gave an interview to um fight hub TV this video appears courtesy of FightHub TV subscribe to Fight Hub TV for the latest unboxing news Steven Espinoza um spoke about the ongoing lawsuit with Floyd Money Mayweather here's what he had to say well yeah look um I can't say too much about it the lawyers have asked me not to but you know obviously Floyd is uh is looking for 340 million which he uh I think supposedly discovered 10 years later is missing.
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Um I think you can tell by my tone what my thoughts are about that.
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Uh and look um all I can say is like you know um I'm confident in the legal process I'm confident about you know what the facts are going to show um and I look forward to this um you know playing out of court so everybody can see exactly what is true um and exactly what um you know where the money went because if you look at the uh you know how my career has played out I spent my career um going back to representing both Mike Tyson and Oscaroya um my career is making sure that fighters are treated fairly and have gotten compensated fairly and I've never done anything you know but that and I think at the the administration I ran at Showtime has was one that was very fighter friendly you know and I stand by that and I know will continue to um to be that possible Japanese collide all right so he said you know kind of placed the emphasis on 10 years later he realizes uh you know 340 million dollars is gone uh so complex uh what's your reaction to his exhibitions being in jeopardy and the threat of Floyd Mayweather losing his passport because of not paying the IRS because of his debt to the IRS and then also hearing um Steven Espinosa say as far as his lawsuit goes he's confident that he's gonna be cleared and you know basically like he knows where the money went so look man they say there's two things in life that are certain that's death and taxes all right you don't want to play with the IRS okay pay your taxes folks all right you don't want because that's a that's a it's never going away let me tell you something they're never gonna let it like oh like we'll let it slide it's not gonna go after seven years or whatever it's gonna keep growing you can try to negotiate it you can try to bring it down but you're gonna pay them you're gonna pay them their money and they're gonna get it from you so trust me the full you don't want to fully feel the full weight of the US government coming after you so with that said Floyd he needs that many fight he was trying to play games he needs that many fight right he might have to just take that L or whatever I mean if obviously he doesn't have to lose but like that's gonna be a real fight he better come prepared because he needs that fight he needs that money um you know Floyd the trouble is this and 50 said this a long time ago um Floyd is the type of guy that he keeps spending as if he's still earning and you can't do that right at a certain point you got to slow down you got to you know you earn a certain amount of money and then you're supposed to just live off of a small portion of that forever instead of trying to continuously live like you're still making that same money even us who got regular jobs if you got a nice high paying job you shouldn't be living at the means of your full salary if you make a hundred thousand you should be living like you make 5000 and that's how you you you sustain over a long period of time that's how if things go wrong you're not gonna fall short flat in your face but obviously we all have lifestyle creep but this dude like has lifestyle creep to the to the nth degree because it's like stuff that he doesn't even need you know I'm saying he doesn't need all that Louis Vuitton and all this nonsense you know I'm saying like he doesn't need any of that stuff he didn't need multiple houses and cars he could have one house in Vegas he could have a couple places that he gets to go visit you can just rent for that week or whatever you're there.
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You know what I'm saying he flies private with like multiple guys like I get it you're famous but you're not that famous like you'll be straight once in a while on a first class flight you know I'm saying like you don't got to fly private every single time that's the kind of stuff that eats at your pockets especially like rich people it's like uh unless you're really flying for business which I know he's sometimes he's doing these exhibitions it's not worth it then I heard he has two private jets one for him and one for security but I mean you know it's like what are we doing here so you know I I would hate to see speaking of which the security is also on the payroll right you gotta pay these guys all the time hey guess what the ladies are on the payroll if we're being keeping in a book you know I'm saying you think they just they they're getting paid one way or another they they're getting something out of this you know I'm saying they're not they from around the way they're not leaving with nothing so with all that said this is all costing you you know I'm saying you're the money the money's coming from you but you're not coming all the money's going out from you but it's nothing that's coming in that's why he keeps trying to do these exhibitions and whatever he's gonna get a quick million dollars over here quick over there he's gonna you know whatever whatever bro um you know the the trouble is also with the way he makes his money and if Floyd was smarter he wouldn't have to pay any taxes he'd pay very little he made most of his money through what is so and the way taxes work right it's is there's different types of ways you make money he's making his money through his income which means he's exchanging his time for his money right so he pays income tax and America has high income taxes the highest rate is 37% used to be 39% but it's 37% right now trim brought it down a little bit so every time he fights he's making money through like he's paying himself as or getting paid as like this is his salary or like this is his money.
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The reason why guys like certain guys like um really rich guys don't pay taxes is because they do it through investments right they get paid through investments or they they get their value their most of their wealth is through investments if Floyd took all the money that he earned and put that all into investments right um he could live off of dividends interest um you know from that money forever right because you're talking about this guy made probably over a billion dollars if he put even a hundred million a hundred million into um just like even like safe us bonds right or like there's like um state bonds and things like that you could like it was that tax free he could make like a three percent payment every year three percent of a hundred million is three million dollars you Floyd you can't live off three million dollars a year i'm talking about after everything is said you can't live off three million dollars a year that is you that's your problem you know what I'm saying private security women he burned through that in a month you can live forever off three million he could live his family his generations could live off that forever if he was smart but he keeps blowing it um you know I'm saying or he could like put the money into like stocks and then borrow against it that that's what a lot of people do they don't pay taxes on it so you don't have to ever ever actually sell it you borrow against it you live off that the the it's a loan right so you don't pay any taxes on a loan you just owe the loan back but then when you pass away they just take the assets that you had as leverage as collateral or your your kids can inherit it at a stepped up basis meaning they don't they don't inherit at what you bought it at they inherit it at the price that it is at the time you die so there's even if they sell it there's no taxes on it bro there's so many can you just get an accountant man do you have an accountant in your life like this these are things like the fact that you have this much money like I don't know who he's got in his life look I know a good accountant you know I'm saying if you need one I I I hook you up I I know a good lawyer too but you know you you you got to do better bro like this is basic stuff I don't know how you get it to a point where you're losing you owe in the IRS 7 million which is going to be earning interest and penalties late penalties and they don't play about that like I've been on the phone with the IRS for hours man that interest in penalties is going to grow you guys takes forever to get rid of it.
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So you know I'm saying just take care of it.
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It's like simple stuff that you could do to avoid these things.
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So I don't know Floyd I mean I I I I love Floyd I think he's you know one of the best representations of winning in the sport but he's about to play himself if he falls flat and loses everything right because I he's got money but he's ain't got that much money.
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He made a lot of money but 7 million dollars still matters to him right so imagine that if he if he's I don't know how much he has but he's he could be getting down low on his funds where he's like you know he can't pay that much and then we don't want to see him what is he like almost 50 right he's not even 50 yet right yeah he's pushing 50 he's just getting close to 50 you've got 30 at least more years of life to live at maybe assuming right hope he makes up yeah we could hopefully so you can you make it 30 years you know I'm saying like do you have enough right now I I feel like he doesn't and I think that's why he said keep doing these fights um anyways yeah that is what it is but I don't know Floyd man get you an accountant bro um you this is basic stuff bro this you shouldn't have to be dealing with these issues I don't pay taxes that makes me smart oh no look listen uh I feel like personally it's sad to see because I mean Floyd was one of my favorite fighters and that was just I remember like me and G every Floyd fight we was locked in we we picking Floyd and we watching the fight and he never disappointed he always showed up in shape prepared ready with the skill and the IQ to find a way to win it's just unfortunate to see someone like Floyd fall off but um not shocking because when you see the lifestyle that he lives it's impossible to live like that um and I'm it in the fact he could even live like that for this long is a testament to how much money he's made but at some point the well runs dry.
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It's just not an intelligent way to live.
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The whole flaws culture the whole um designer is one thing like I have on a Ralph Lauren hoodie right now that's considered designer but I didn't pay no freaking Louis V uh price for this I paid a reasonable price for this and that's because when I wash it it's still gonna look good and that's it you just need to buy good quality stuff.
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You don't need to spend five hundred dollars on hoodie I just I would never do that right but you just need to buy high quality stuff right you need a good car that's reliable that can get you and your family around you don't need seven luxury cars and in Floyd's case he's not even buying luxury he's buying like Rolls Royce's like you know and in in in crazy types of cars you don't need five or seven of those if you just roll up in one you're gonna be impressive why do you need seven he said he showed his watch collection to prove he's not broke.
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This is the irony of it he showed his watch collection to prove he's not broke um a different watch for every single day and it's like to those who know that's why we know you're broke right because you could buy a watch and it can it could the some watches do appreciate in value.
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I'm about to say yeah but not as much as if you invested that money right so see that's how we know you're broke because see you would have a few pieces maybe and they appreciate in value or whatever but you got a different watch for every single day that's excessive you could have had seven watches that appreciate in value and taken the rest of that money and invested it you you make up some good points and the other thing is this like one thing that these a lot of these athletes do is they think they have to buy everything if you want to drive different cars just rent just rent it yeah because the thing is this is the trouble and this is like it's like an imposter mentality they feel like even though they have the money they feel like they have to show that they have the money right and it's like oh renting cars means you don't really own it or whatever so it's like they're talking down on you if you it's like oh those are your cars you're renting them or whatever.
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So it's like you got to prove like oh I bought that car.
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You don't have to buy the car the cars depreciate in value so fast.
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If you feel like driving a different car every day of the week just rent just rent a car you can own one car that you actually drive and then if you feel like all right for this month I want to drive this Rolls Royce or whatever I want to whatever you can rent it for that month.
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The overall cost is going to be way cheaper yes you don't own it but there's no you this is this is a a saying I heard you want to um finance appreciating assets and you want to lease depreciating assets right because you you don't want to hold on to assets that are going to lose value for you.
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If it's gonna increase in value you can finance it and pay the interest because the value is going to outpace the the loan hopefully the idea is right but if you're if you're gonna take um on a car right you should well I mean if it's like your one car that you're gonna buy and then ride that to the wheels fall off fine you can finance it but then after that you're done but you're not gonna finance again and again and again depreciating assets because you're just losing over time right and especially multiple ones that you don't even use because it doesn't matter the car not you're gonna lose value on it.
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It's just crazy.
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And then the houses you can it doesn't matter don't if you don't live in the house you know a lot of guys end up losing especially these big multi-million dollar houses because there's not a market for them like that.
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So if you don't sell if you buy it and you want to sell now you paid six million for it you think oh my house is worth even eight million but guess what if nobody comes with eight million it's not worth eight million it's worth whatever who's willing to pay for it so if somebody's like I give you five for it and you need the money guess what you're gonna take five million right you so it doesn't matter you know I'm saying and you could be like oh I put in the best finishes the best all that stuff none of that matters it doesn't nobody cares you know that sentimental value to you or like you know these cabinets came straight from Europe or whatever nobody cares everything you value that you think is worth something when you die your kids are throwing like 80% of that crap away bro just understand talk about it man just understand that but anyways uh let me you made some great points I want to uh touch upon that it's funny because I was breaking this down to someone you pull up at a red light someone is driving a modest car that they own right the value of their car is eight thousand dollars so they own the car if they ever had to sell the car they can make eight thousand dollars from the car someone pulls up next to them in a bentega they don't own the bentega they're leasing the bentega or they're financing the bentega they have a monthly of like a thousand dollars every month they lose a thousand dollars to ride around in that bentega and the person driving the modest car valued at 8,000 has eight thousand they can get around and the person driving that bentega looks like they have it all looks offline whatever but the person parked beside actually has a lot more invested in that very basic car that you're seeing right so this is the thing you can't be falling for these stupid mind tricks and this is what social media does the fake world and everything right it it gets you caught up in all the wrong things right you brought up something complex that's that that's a great point you're gonna have multiple homes worth like six million in different states you you're only gonna be in one state at a time you could get a hotel you can get luxury you can you can rent a house or do whatever right but if you really want to invest in property invest in rental property buy buy like a triple deca you could buy an apartment complex that way it's being utilized and it's giving you money back instead you buy a a single single family house that's only taken money away from you you buy a single family house if you're gonna live in the house with your family and then you don't want to buy multiples and and I know that it's a
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Floyd Money Mayweather, and uh uh of course, but again, this is just the poor financial management of some of these athletes that lead them to become broke later on in life.
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And Floyd Money Mayweather, you could just see this happening, and we're not even gonna talk about his biggest obsession, which to me is when you feel, and I've noticed this.
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Once people reach a certain level with money, it's a thrill for them to buy people like you give people money, you can make people do whatever you want.
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You need you buy like people, you start you start playing games with people, you start that's the most expensive thing, and then when that money runs out, everyone leaves, and you're sitting around thinking, Well, I was there for you and I helped you.
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No, you used your money to control, and you just ran out, so bye, fool.
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:12.719
That's what happens to all of these people, and you see people running around now making a fool of themselves on live streams when they used to flush money down the toilet, right?
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:20.239
But again, this is what happens when you lose sense of reality.
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The reality is this, and then I'm done with the with the topic.
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If you have to use money to separate yourself from everyone else, then you're lame.
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If you can't stand out on your own, if you don't have something that makes you unique, is something that without even talking about your money.
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If money is the thing that makes you, if money, because you know what, you'll never have enough.
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Too much money's not enough money, there'll never be enough money.
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And if that's the only thing that makes you unique, Elaine.
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Look at someone like Anthony Joshua makes a lot of money, but that's not his identity.
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You could think of so many people who make so much money, but that's not their identity.
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Their identity is not rooted in the money they make.
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And if all you have is that I drive the Rolls Royce, and I you're you're not special, your Rolls Royce is.
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You're not special, the house is.
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There's nothing about you.
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And Floyd is a bad example of this because he's arguably the most talented fighter that ever lived.
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That should have been enough for him, but unfortunately it wasn't.
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Well, look, guys, what do y'all think?
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Floyd, 7.25 million to the IRS.
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I mean, dang.
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You think he got it?
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You think that small chump change to him?
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I mean, he made a lot of money in his career, but then he's also saying now he's missing 340 million or something.
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So, you know, it's looking real scary for Florida.
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I hope I just hope we don't see him like you know, another guy who was about billions.
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Now he's about, you know, begging from the B already broke.
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Already alcoholic beverage.
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But all the videos of A B now it's like all he does is like be drunk and scare in the hoes.
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It's like, bro, it's like he's the dude at the party time.
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Yo, bro, this is the this this this is what took me.
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Like, I don't even want to talk about it.
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It's like, yeah, I really wasn't gonna try to flex anything like that, but I'm A B four-time champ.
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And the girls were just like, who cares?
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Nobody cares, dog.
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Even you have some personality, charisma, some charm, or something.
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Nobody cares, like, bro.
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Yeah, and and then as it's like, what does that do from here?
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What does that do?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, but he's he's just a definition of scare of the hose.
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It's like so funny.
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He'd be so like coming on too hard.
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It's like, bro, teacher, like you you doing too much, like like, and then he and then he gets mad when they don't want to give him anything.
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He's like, uh who are you?
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:10.560
I'm I'm A B I'm this and that.
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It's like, bro, if you have to explain to somebody, you already lost.
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:24.800
If you gotta explain both know that never mattered, like when we went in college and whatever, the athletes or people who thought they were it never mattered, it doesn't matter, bro.
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Like women don't care about stuff like that, bro.
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They don't look man.
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.159
Well, anyway, that's A B Floyd.
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Hopefully, we see both these brothers.
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You know what?
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They can help each other out, they should fight each other, make some money.
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They can both know, bro.
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:48.239
That would have been that would have been a major fight 10-15 years ago.
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:49.520
That would have been you block.
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:54.720
Right?
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.520
People gonna pick a b if they don't know any better.
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:05.359
I mean, but that would have been, I mean, what what a b after the thing is that you know what that Marcos Mardana fight really messed a b up.
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Um, if if if he hadn't lost that fight, which he was he still made a good account for himself, he could have been literally a billionaire.
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:19.279
He could have if he had won that fight, it's so crazy small things happen because after that he would have probably fought Floyd, right?
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:26.399
And if he fought Floyd, he would have had like you know, maybe one or two fights against Floyd, and that would have set him up, you know.
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I'm saying he still fought Pacquiao, he did fight Pacquiao, but it was like he was on pay-per-view before all of his peers were.
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He was on pay-per-view before Earl Spence, excuse me, all of them.
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:46.079
He he he was he was the guy, he got a lot of big fights, he did a lot of opportunities, yeah.
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And and and he squandered it, man.
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I'm gonna tell you, I don't want to get this one AB because I because like really I feel like he's in a in a place where I don't want to bash him.
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Like I don't necessarily feel sorry for him because it's of his own doing, but I don't want to bash him.
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But when I saw him sign to Don King to fight Blair the Flair Cobb, and he got like a cash advance, and Don handed it to him, and he was just counting the money, it just looked like feeding activity to me.
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You know what I mean?
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:20.479
So it could be, it could be that that would explain a lot.
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I mean, I would hope almost I would almost hope that you know when people act like irrational, it's like I hope they're on drugs.
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So it's like you can't be this bad, right?
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It's gotta be the drugs, it's gotta be the alcohol, it's gotta be something because like if you're this bad off the strength, then like dang, you really messed up, you really down bad.
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:47.520
So uh I almost would rather hope him be an addict, and like that's the reason why because he at least he could clean himself and be like, yo, it was the drugs, it wasn't me, but this is just him, it is just him.
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I've accepted that that he is who he is.
01:12:52.000 --> 01:13:04.560
I don't think Floyd is as bad in that aspect, but I do think that um if you have to flaunt your wealth around, and in which case it's not really wealth, because if it was wealth, he wouldn't be broke right now.
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:26.079
If you have to flaunt your riches around and you have to use your money to keep people around and to pay and to do all that, then you know, and you got to look at it like for example, um I won't I won't run through the list of women, but a lot of his women that he had, he ended up losing to people like around him or whatever.
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It's just they're little signs that show that like people may not be there for you, and you still wanna pay and do whatever it's all good, like yeah.
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:45.039
All right, let us know what y'all think in the comments, Floyd A B, money problems.
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Well, what kind of financial advice would y'all give them?
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You know what I'm saying?
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What do you think happens?
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And do you think that Floyd is gonna you know end up having to do these fights to make some money, these exhibitions and all these things like that?
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:57.680
And um, does he fight Manny?
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You know, he needs that fight.
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Is it gonna be a real fight?
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:01.199
Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
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That's Cadent, I'm complex, corner to corner.
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See y'all the next one.
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:12.319
Earl Spence says that he's always felt like Jer Jamel Charlo was jealous of him.
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Now they used to train in the same gym, they used to spar, and we just assumed it was friendly because they were in the same camp.
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:33.119
But Earl Spence kind of reveals that nah, I wasn't always friendly, and he felt it, but he never really he put it to the side, but there was, I guess, really something there.
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Let's listen.
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This is one great names, good names, great names.
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That's more on my radar than you know when and where it's high to me.
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What are some of those good names, great names that are out there right now for you?
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:48.399
Good question.
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.600
Uh nah, we didn't really have a falling out.
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:06.560
I mean, dude been dude been kind of I would say jealous of me.
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Dude's been kind of jealous of me.
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Because I mean, I guess he looked at me as like um, he looked at me as like, I guess, PVC, golden board, some and all this and that.
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:23.760
So maybe he's been jealous of me, but I mean, the proof is in the pudding.
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It's the reason why, it's the reason why he hasn't had a fight yet.
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And it's the reason why I can say, hey, I want to fight, and then I have a fight next tomorrow.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I mean, shit, people tired of people tired of goddamn, you know, giving him fights and then you get in the red because he's fighting and he ain't got any fans.
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.479
Like, where can Jamel fight at and sell out?
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.199
Can't even fight in Houston and sell out.
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:53.840
Like, so where is he fighting at?
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So he he mad at me, but we might handle that in the future.
01:15:58.399 --> 01:15:59.920
Did you feel that in the gym or something?
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Something like that.
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.960
Uh yeah, I mean, I felt a little bit in the gym, but you know, trying to be solid, man.
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.319
Most times you can't be solid all the time.
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:23.439
You gotta, you know, listen to your intuition and you know, not mess with people, how you mess with people, but you know, there's just my character trying to keep it solid, trying to be rich, trying to be thorough.
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:25.520
So you heard it.
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:33.760
He said he felt it in the gym, but he was trying to be solid and basically not let it interrupt anything.
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:39.439
But now that uh he's being called out, he said they might handle it in the future.
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:45.119
What's your reaction to uh what he had to say about Mel being jealous of him and that he always felt it?
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Do you feel like um do you feel based on what you're observing that it's jealousy or do you feel like it's just competition?
01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:56.399
And also, um, do you feel like they should fight?
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:00.960
I think you're on mute, brother.
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My bad.
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.880
Yeah, I think I think in the future they can fight.
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:17.520
And I do think um there is some um truth to what he said that like yo, I think he was a little bit um jealous of me because look, like he made a good point.
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.880
Um Spence has always been the bigger star.
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Spence fought on pay-per-view, like leading a pay-per-view, like he's the main attraction, you know what I'm saying?
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Like he's the one that everybody's here to see.
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:32.079
I think only Charlo maybe had one or two of those or something like that.
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:37.279
Whereas Spence, every fight was a pay-per-view or like a major main attraction fight.
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People just like him more.
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.319
I mean, he sells more, he made more money, you know what I'm saying?
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And it come, I would the reason why I say jealousy is because Charlo comes off as a hater.
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.479
Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like that, and the trouble is you can tell, like, okay, you you feel a type of way.
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:57.359
If Charlo's like, no, that's my boy, he was great, he's uh obviously a great champion and whatever.
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:01.520
But like the way he responds makes you think that okay, it was jealousy, right?
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:02.800
Because that's what else would it be?
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.119
With the you know, that that type of energy.
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:15.119
Um, you know, uh Charlo has never really sold a lot, and that's why right now he's kind of like looking to for somebody to fight.
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:20.720
Um, I think he's trying to get paid, he's trying to get back in the ring, but I think he's trying to get paid to get cashed out.
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I think if if Errol can come back and Errol can become what he was at 147, if he can come back and he can win belts and become like a problem at 154, I would like to see it in the future.
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:34.560
That's a good fight.
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:38.319
And I mean, you know, there's a thin line between love and hate.
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.319
This whole thing, there's uh, you know, maybe some competition, some friendly whatever.
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.039
But at the end of the day, they used to spend a lot of time in the gym together.
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.199
They're probably boys at some point.
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:48.960
And a fight against each other.
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:55.520
One thing about boxing is that fighting somebody, there's animosity, but there's also love because you guys are doing business together, right?
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.199
You guys are gonna make money together.
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.479
So it's like some of that stuff, that's what after fight you often.
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.039
They hug each other out because it's like, yo, we did it.
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:03.520
Right?
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:08.159
We did it like only a few times where it's like purely that's just bad blood.
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.319
Like, I don't f with this dude at all, right?
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:14.399
So if he if he if he does fight him in the future, he'd be blessing him.
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:15.760
Because guess what?
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:24.000
He gives him one opportunity, because if he beats him, he gets all that juice now, and two, he gets a chance to make some money, at least, at the very least, if he loses.
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:31.760
So I go, I would be done with you that in the future, but definitely Trello, uh Trello just is his his demeanor is is not welcoming.
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.880
Every time you see him, it's like he's barking at somebody.
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:36.640
It's like, bro, are we are you good?
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:37.439
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:38.479
So it's just hard.
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.720
I think it's hard for him to get a fan base of true fans when like anybody who comes around you is like, you know what I'm saying?
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:48.640
Like Spence at least is like kind of a really cool, like mellow dude or whatever.
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:59.359
So it's like you can you can feel like you could talk to him and chill with him, but Spence, it feels like you talk to him, he's gonna bark at you or yell at you, or he's looks like you know what I'm saying, look at always agitated, and that's probably a personal thing he's dealing with, you know.
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:00.479
I'm saying who knows?
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.199
But that's just that way it comes across.
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:08.159
So I would say, like, yeah, and and then so also think about it.
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:14.720
Charlo became undisputed in his weight class, and he still never really got the kind of love that Errol got.
01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:19.039
He never got the recognition that Errol got, and that probably eats him up inside, you know what I'm saying?
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:23.520
Because it's like, yo, I got undisputed, I'm like, I was all this.
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:29.520
Then Spence didn't get undisputed and he lost, but he still has much more, you know what I'm saying?
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.119
Like respect and the industry and sport and whatever than me.
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:40.000
So I I I I see where um Spence is coming from, but yeah, I I can see them fighting their future as well, too.
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:54.800
Um for me, I think that Jamel just comes off as uh a confrontational person, as you pointed out.
01:20:55.039 --> 01:21:01.359
We've seen him getting into it at boxing matches, we've seen him get into it buying clothes.
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He didn't like the person who was serving him at like whatever luxury clothing store he was at, so he got into it with that person.
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:20.960
Um, we've seen uh Jamel always inflamed and in a in a beef or upset at someone, so it's hard for me to label it jealousy.
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It could just be a character flaw, but it's possible that it's jealousy as well.
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:32.479
Whereas he feels as though Earl Spence is getting some type of love that's reserved for him.
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:45.439
But again, to me, that would somewhat be like jealousy because you feel like you're not getting enough, and you want what someone else is getting, and you wonder why people are treating someone else a certain way.
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:55.039
But a lot of these guys don't do like self-reflection, they don't look at themselves, they don't see what they want, what they need to change in order to get.
01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:07.680
And for Jamel, regardless of what he says, he could have done himself a service against Canelo if he would have gone out there and actually fucked Canelo.
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.520
A lot of people were watching, a lot of people.
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.000
I know there's this one dude in the gym.
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.960
He told me he felt like Jamel was gonna beat Canelo.
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:24.720
And I said, Yeah, I and he used to see me every week, and he stood on that.
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:41.039
And I said to him, I think that you are seriously underestimating Canelo, and you're you are like overvaluing Jamel and his ability, and he was just like, I'm crazy, whatever, I'm supposed to know boxing.
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:49.920
So after the fight, when I saw him in the gym, he just put his head down, and he was just that's how you made people feel, bro.
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:57.439
These people who were riding for you, like he was like so he he put his rep on the line with me.
01:22:57.600 --> 01:22:58.399
I don't know why.
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:07.039
You know, he would just come at me every single day about how wrong I was that Canelo was gonna beat you, and then you embarrassed him.
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.359
So that's not how you build a fan base.
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:17.760
At least if you were to land one punch that staggered Canelo, your fan base could have said he almost had him or something.
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:21.680
You did nothing, so that's not how you build a fan base.
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:30.720
Even Earl Spence, like he got his ass whooped by Tance Board Crawford, but he tried to fight him, he kept trying to fight him.
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:34.079
He tried, bro, and that's the difference.
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:46.640
Like, you you can't you you can't walk out with everyone feeling like you just robbed them, like you just showed up to get a check.
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:53.359
That's the impression that Jamel Charlo left with everyone who watched him fight Canelo.
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.720
That's also how he let he he let the promoters feel.
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.600
So why would they want to put you in another fight?
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:01.920
Why would they be eager to put you in another fight?
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.119
We don't know if you're showing up to fight or collect a check.
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.159
You know, it has to look like it matters to you.
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:10.800
And this is what happens in in the game.
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.920
Now, the for example, take it to basketball.
01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.319
The Minnesota Timberwolves actually won.
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:22.880
They won without Anthony Edwards, by the way, who I think is an electrifying player, is one of my favorite players to watch.
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:28.079
But I've seen him lose a playoff game and be laughing like it's nothing.
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:37.920
I'd seen Wimbiana, uh, Victor Wimbiana win a game that was close, and he and it was a regular season game.
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:40.960
They pulled it out, a close game at the end.
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:49.119
He made some key plays and he was crying because he really wanted to win the game and he was that emotional.
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.000
Who do you think I want on my team?
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.279
Who do you think I want to go see?
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:59.279
The guy who's laughing, talented, can ball, can hoop.
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.600
But I'm about to say Anthony Ericks is a problem.
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:04.399
I know I love watching him play.
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:09.359
He can hoop, but you lose and he's just laughing.
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.840
Or the guy who cares, the guy like I want, I take Wimby.
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:14.640
That's just me.
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:20.399
And and and and you're talking about two guys right now who are the face of the league to me.
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.319
The the two up and comes, whatever.
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:26.640
But if you ask me who I pick, I'm gonna take Wimby because I know he cares about the game.
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:28.399
That's all I care about.
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:32.960
I don't have to question as long as Wimby's on that court, is he giving me max effort?
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:34.640
I don't have to question that.
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:36.159
That's all I want.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.640
That's all I want out of my fighters.
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.840
I don't have to question as long as they have a fight coming up, will they show up in shape?
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:44.640
Are they gonna try?
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:45.279
Are they gonna?
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:46.720
I don't want that.
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:52.000
And you know, you don't realize you're spoiled until it's too late.
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.760
Like the era of boxing that I grew up watching, I was spoiled.
01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:01.520
Because the fighters didn't pull out and they have all this.
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:04.239
They showed up and they tried to win, bro.
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.279
Eyes hanging out the socket, whatever.
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:09.760
They showed up, they tried to win.
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:12.319
That's not that's not today, man.
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:14.159
That's what I'm talking about with Jamel.
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:26.319
I couldn't imagine back when I was growing up watching a fighter who would just have so much to give, but just run and lap the ring because they're afraid of getting hurt in a boxing match.
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:29.439
Like, I just can't imagine it.
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.840
So that's the issue with Jamel.
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.600
You don't have a good personality.
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.920
You snap on everyone, you show up looking like you just want a paycheck.
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:39.119
So that's the issue.
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:41.680
Earl Spence, at least we've seen him care.
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:47.439
Earl Spence, like you said, got in a car accident, came back fighting Danny Garcia.
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.720
No tune-up, no nothing.
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.439
So you gotta respect a guy like that.
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:56.560
Getting to Jamel Charler versus Earl Spence.
01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:02.159
I really hope Earl Spence is still has some left in the tank because it's good for boxing.
01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:11.920
I think uh Earl Spence, if he goes out and he puts on a good performance against uh Tim Zoo, I think that is good for boxing.
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:14.720
It gives us another player, it gives us someone to look at.
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:17.439
And if he wants to fight Jamel, fine.
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:26.319
But if he looks good enough and he wants to go at Sebastian Fondora, I'll tell you what, I know who I think the tougher fight is Sebastian Fondora.
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:32.079
So if he wants to go after Sebastian Fondora, I'm not gonna look at him like you ducked Mel.
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:36.000
In fact, it's probably smarter to fight Mel, in my opinion.
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.039
Well, it yeah, when it comes to that point, like of uh danger or whatever.
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:42.880
Um yeah, man.
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.119
No, uh you you're talking about basketball.
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.159
The Celtics lost last night, and I'm I'm still mad at that.
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:50.720
Like we lost in seven to the Sixers.
01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:51.760
Like, oh my god.
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:52.880
Ked, are you kidding me?
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.039
Jason Tatum 3 1, man.
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:56.720
Bro, 3 1.
01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.760
And then Jason Tatum man just bothered me because I feel like this dude.
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:01.520
Always shrinks when it's like time.
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.439
He said he got a leg injury, whatever.
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.840
It's like, bro, you have a game seven or whatever.
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:06.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:09.119
Like these kids these days.
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:10.960
Tatum on that one, man.
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:12.000
You said what?
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:14.159
You can't blame Tatum for that.
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:16.239
Come on, Tatum showed up.
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:18.479
Nah, same thing happened.
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:20.239
Uh uh, what was it?
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:21.920
Like when we lost to Miami.
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:23.760
Same thing, game seven or whatever.
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:35.920
Now, obviously, okay, like if a legitimate knee injury happens or something, but it's like this dude, like it just feels like when there's when it's time to like show up and show out, it's like if you're a superstar, you're gonna shut the game down.
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.479
You're gonna be like, all right, everybody stand back, I'm taking over.
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.279
Or you're at least gonna be able to like impact the game.
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.359
You can just like all right, I'm not letting this happen.
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:44.319
You know what I'm saying?
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.520
Like, I just feel like he doesn't take it to that gear.
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.359
I don't know if it's even it has it, you know.
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:54.159
I'm saying, like, and maybe I'm being maybe I'm just sour grapes right now.
01:28:54.239 --> 01:29:01.439
And I know this is Anthony Edwards, arguably that one of the most exciting players in basketball didn't play in his series and his team more.
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:08.079
The Celtics, they were down by like 20 at one point and had to rally back.
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:18.319
That's effort, that's them not playing defense and putting themselves in a hole they had to crawl back from, which they did in the fourth quarter with like three minutes left.
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.239
They were within one point.
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:20.880
Yeah.
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:22.399
And three minutes left.
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:32.399
And in three back-to-back possessions where they got stops and the game was still one point, they shot horrible three-pointers and missed.
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:36.239
And then that's when the 76ers went on a run.
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:41.119
How come after missing the first three, you don't think let me take it to the basket and try to get the lead?
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:46.880
How come after missing the second three, you don't at least on that third possession, say let's attack the rim and try to get the lead?
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:48.399
We're only down by one point.
01:29:48.640 --> 01:30:00.560
There's a psychological flip that happens once you see yourself up on a scoreboard that would hurt them, but instead, you never cross that threshold because you just decided to check up a bunch of threes.
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:07.119
That's nothing to do with Jason Tatum, that has something to do with poor basketball, like agreed.
01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:23.119
I don't, it's not only on him, but my thing is this is that especially just think that these days, like you feel I feel like back in the day when you were the superstar of a team, it was your personal responsibility almost like to like I'm getting my team across the line.
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.199
I mean, obviously LeBron is LeBron, right?
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:26.960
LeBron is LeBron, let's put him to the side.
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:32.880
But like even guys like even like a Dwayne Wade before LeBron joined, right?
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:39.039
Like, there's certain things like like you are the guy, you were the franchise is behind you.
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:42.720
We're we like everything is is resting on you, you know what I'm saying?
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:51.840
Like it's your responsibility to make sure you gotta if if you it's not okay, you would never allow your team to go out in the first round, you know.
01:30:51.920 --> 01:31:02.399
I'm saying even when Paul Pierce was by himself, Paul Pierce was able to get in performances and get the team like terror, like not great teams, but into like multiple rounds into the playoffs.
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:06.159
So obviously, this is the first we haven't been bounced in the first round in like years, right?
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:12.880
But I just would feel like, especially you when you have somebody who's like of Jason Tatum's supposed superstar status, right?
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:19.439
Or that level he's supposed to be, you would think that like he's like, nah, like I'm not going, we're not going out like that, right?
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:21.840
Like, but I don't know, whatever.
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:23.439
It's just a way off topic.
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.079
So he's up on my man JT.
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:27.439
First of all, let me tell you something.
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:32.880
All right, Jason Tatum came back from his Achilles injury quickly.
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.279
A lot of people didn't even expect to see him this season.
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:36.319
He gave it a go.
01:31:36.560 --> 01:32:27.600
They're probably being very cautious with him because what ends up happening, and I'm telling you this from experience, what ends up happening when you have an injury with uh a part of your leg, it can be your knee, your hamstring, your ankle, is you start overcompensating and trying to avoid the pain in the area where you hurt, so you start overcompensating or you start trying to land in a way where you put all the impact on other parts of your body, and then that could lead to another injury, or you know, so you you don't know basically, and I think what they decided was to be cautious with him because um, you know, they there is a game seven, and you were you were up 3-1, and they probably thought they could win, and they should have won if you're being honest.
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:28.720
Uh they should have won.
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:31.359
So they should have won, anyways.
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:34.479
Look, listen, guys, Spencer Charlo.
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:36.000
Back on the topic.
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:37.760
Let us know what y'all think in the comments.
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:38.239
All right.
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:40.880
Uh, it's corner to corner, Caden and Complex.
01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:48.319
Who we need to talk about basketball because complex seems to be out of line with the way he's treating my man, Jason Tatum, right now.
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:55.520
Bro, I'm I'm just I'm just salty about it because I was like, no way are we losing to the Sixers of all people.
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:59.279
We're in New York right now, they were all watching it.
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.159
Uh everywhere I was going to close in the game.
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:05.359
I'm like, they probably won't really win, they don't want us.
01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.399
Bro, we're supposed to son the Sixers and the Knicks.
01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:09.680
That's our little brothers.
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.560
That's our little, you know, I mean, in the Eastern Conference.
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:14.239
That's like we don't even worry about them.
01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:19.039
It's like every year we go to Eastern Conference finals no matter what, and then we go figure it out from there.
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:21.520
We lose it to the lot of money to beat us, bro.
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:29.279
They got embied, they got Paul George, they got Carl Lowry on the um on bench, yeah.
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.159
Yeah, they they paid a lot of money to beat us.
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.000
The team is stacked, but still, I don't know.
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:38.720
Anyways, we'll catch y'all in the next one.
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:39.840
Peace.
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:49.119
Oscar Delahoya says he's willing to squash the beef with Data White to make Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben.
01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:51.279
Is this shocking news?
01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:52.960
We will discuss it.
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:58.720
But first, let's listen to what Oscar had to say about making this mega fight.
01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:01.199
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01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.760
You have Connor Ben, who to me is like is that even possible?
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:14.640
Well, absolutely it's possible, but you think about this, like he's fighting for the Zufa belt.
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:26.640
So, and Ryan Garcia's fighting for all the belts, he's fighting for the WBC, WBA, IBF, like Connor Ben's with the Zufa belt, you know, the the the unicorn pink Zufa belt.
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.600
So who knows if if if we can make that fight.
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:36.960
But look, if if if Dana White wants to call me, then we can start talking.
01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:38.479
That's the bottom line.
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:45.199
So I think that happens though, because there's been a lot of back and forth between you guys, like well, this is this is all about the fighters, it's not about me and Dana.
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:53.760
You know, me and Dana have a beef going on, you know, which is which is actually a lot of fun for me, but uh um but this is about the fighters.
01:34:54.319 --> 01:35:00.880
I can squash the beef, you know, I can squash the beef easily just to make this fight happen.
01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:16.319
But the fact that Connor Ben is fighting for the rainbow belt, uh or the unicorn belt uh at Zufa, I don't know what their plans are if they're even wanting to fight for the WBC or the WBA, IBF, WBO.
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:17.600
So whatever.
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:19.119
Dana, call me.
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:20.079
It's all good.
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:21.439
Champions collab.
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:31.520
Oscar's willing to squash the beef to make Connor Ben versus Ryan Garcia uh complex.
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:33.279
What's your reaction to that?
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.880
I just want to say quickly, uh, shout out to Oscar.
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:41.520
I saw him walking into the Benavidez girl fight, uh Zerto fight last night.
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:46.000
He had a badge on on his arm, and I just gotta say, yo, he is the golden boy.
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.399
This guy, we we talk a lot of crap, but this guy's been famous for a long time.
01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:54.640
He's got a lot of he's he's got a lot of things that you know he's he's ran through already.
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.159
So put some respect on his name.
01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:02.159
As a fighter and for the sport of boxing, like he was one of my favorite fighters.
01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:03.920
Like you talk about fights, you don't miss.
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.560
I did I never missed the Oscar fight either back then.
01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:07.760
No, Oscar.
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:09.840
They call him the golden boy for a reason.
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.520
But in any event, uh I just thought about that because I saw him walking in last night.
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.920
Um, this is part of the course.
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.319
You know why he's willing to make this work?
01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:22.399
Because he's Carter Benny's like, that's easy work.
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:23.920
That's an easy done.
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.720
He's like, we're not letting that one go.
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:28.800
That's our easy work.
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:30.399
That's our food.
01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:32.479
So we're taking that, we're taking that one.
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:37.600
And we could do it in the UK, make a lot of money, and maybe do this on a Netflix or whatever, still at a stadium.
01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:40.079
Hell, yes, a thousand percent.
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:44.640
All of them, everybody at Golden Boy, um, you know, uh, what's his name?
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:48.640
Is they're all licking their chops at the at the thought of this, you know what I'm saying?
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:55.920
Um, Ryan Garcia, like, they want that fight because they know it's easy work, they know they're gonna get a nice big payday.
01:36:56.239 --> 01:37:01.760
So, yeah, these guys look at the end of the day, these promoters, these fighters, they're all about making money.
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:03.199
That's what we're doing this for.
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:07.279
It's not just about whatever, all the talk, all that's secondary to making money.
01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:11.680
And if there's an opportunity to make money, the the worst of enemies will fight each other.
01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:15.920
The guys who don't can't stand each other, they'll make some business happen because guess what?
01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:17.840
There's millions at stake.
01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.159
So, you know, I'm not too surprised at that.
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:25.840
Uh, especially these guys, they all also know what it takes to sell a fight.
01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:28.720
And they know that, okay, you have to be a character, right?
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:30.079
They know this is all fake.
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:32.880
Behind the scenes, they're probably cool.
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:38.880
And the in the cameras or whatever's on, they're gonna be like, oh, this guy, I'm a you know, whatever, whatever, whatever.
01:37:39.039 --> 01:37:41.359
Like, you know, like Ali used to do that all the time.
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:44.000
Like, when the cameras are on, he'd be like, ah da da da.
01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:47.840
But like he was actually cool with a lot of people behind the scenes, you know what I'm saying?
01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.560
Like, but obviously it didn't still rub people the wrong way.
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:57.039
Like, like Frazier never forgave him for some of the things he said, but like ultimately they were actually like behind the scenes, like friends and stuff.
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:00.640
But in any event, um, you know, it's all about selling the fights.
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:04.399
So I don't think it's too crazy for them to like work something out.
01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:07.840
Um, and I think uh Ryan Garcia wants that easy.
01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.199
That seems like that's an easy dub.
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I'm gonna get a highlight reel knockout over a guy who's got a lot of fans in the UK, and I'm gonna do it in style, and I'm gonna defend my belt, and I'm gonna get a lot of money.
01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:18.880
So he's like, yes, let's make that happen.
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:20.880
So I can see that happening next.
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:29.439
I've been a proponent that they signed uh Connor Ben for this fight, and I stand by that.
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:38.079
There's no other way to justify 15 million to Connor Ben, like I said, unless he's going to fight Ryan Garcia.
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:58.159
And to me, uh Oscar Delahoya's shift in tone seems like he understands that this is massive, and I think it's a big fight for Ryan Garcia because Connor Ben is the son of Nigel Ben, and he does have a fan base in the UK.
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:03.359
There are also a lot of people in the UK who don't like him, but he's fighting an American.
01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:13.920
So UK boxing fans come together, not all, but a lot of them, when someone from the UK is fighting one of the Yanks.
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:19.279
They're gonna come together so that they can uh root for their guy.
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And there's nothing wrong with that.
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:27.439
Ryan Garcia, on the other hand, has his fan base, and he's popular in the United States of America.
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:38.239
Of course, Ryan has people who don't like him as well because of his history and some of the things he said, his behaviors, and uh the positive tests.
01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:40.720
Conor Penn also has a positive test.
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:44.640
But I think they're gonna offset all the negative things are gonna offset.
01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:59.199
Excuse me, because this is a big fight, big names, uh, interest from two of the biggest markets in boxing of potentially having the fight in the UK.
01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:06.239
The only thing that I think could hurt it in the UK would be the start time, because it will start at 6 p.m.
01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:22.720
If they can figure out a way to have them walk into the ring, not necessarily 12 o'clock, because I feel like that's excessive as well, but maybe make it a little bit later, or if they do it on Netflix or something, uh I I think that can help.
01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:28.239
So, like Netflix at say they'll walk into the ring at like 7, 8 p.m.
01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:29.840
They're gonna fight at that time.
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I think it can be massive.
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.319
So I think there's a lot there.
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:40.239
Of course, Oscar Delahoya is gonna be willing to squash it with uh Dana White for that.
01:40:40.319 --> 01:40:41.840
There's a lot of money to be made.
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He's also right, he's right when it's gonna make him some money.
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.359
They're supposed to do this in the best interest of the fighters.
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This is in the best interest of the fighter in terms of Oscar Delahoya.
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Same for Zufa.
01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:07.840
And if I'm Zufa and I just watch Connor Ben struggle with Regis Progray, I'm thinking the only way for me to profit off of this deal is to fight like Ryan Garcia.
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So I would sell him and and and tell him, look, sink or swim.
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:14.720
You've been talking a lot.
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:21.920
Like uh, my what my one of my favorite scenes uh uh in movie history is from uh the nutty professor.
01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:27.039
When uh Eddie Murphy's like, okay, Shelly, you've been a guinea pig long enough.
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It's time to see if this stuff works, and then he takes the medicine.
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.399
I'm like, oh, I thought you were gonna give it to the uh guinea pig.
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:38.560
Well, it's like Connor, you've been getting easy touches long enough.
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:41.920
It's time to see if you're world level or not.
01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:59.119
Throw him in that ring and let's see uh what he has because I'm sick of hearing him talk, I'm sick of seeing seeing him run up on Shakur, I'm sick of hearing him talk about Devin, I'm sick of seeing him put him in the ring with one of these guys now, and let's see if he's about that life.
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:01.039
That's what that's what I want to see.
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:02.880
So I would love for it to happen.
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:10.880
I think it's the only way that paying Connor Ben that much money could make sense, is if they get him in the ring with Ryan Garcia.
01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:14.960
Are you on mute, brother?
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:16.880
My bad.
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:20.239
Yeah, pretty much that's the only way that money would ever make sense.
01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:28.000
But I'm curious though, because like the contracts and everything, it's like what do they gain by paying him that much and then him losing to Ryan Garcia?
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:39.520
If they had Ryan Garcia under contract, which makes me wonder because you know, Ryan was kind of like, Oh, I'm a free agent, but like um Oscar was like, No, he's still under Golden Boy, but it was like, Yeah, we're gonna work together something.
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:42.319
I wonder if Ryan is eventually gonna move to Zufa.
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:54.720
And maybe they it's like already in the plans or in the works, you think, or maybe it's possible, but here's what they'll gain they paid him 15 million for one fight deal.
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:57.359
Who knows the the real particulars?
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:06.560
But if they sell the fight to Netflix for let's say um I don't think the fight's worth 100 million, but if they got that, whatever.
01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:23.359
Let's just say they sold the fight to net to Netflix for 60 million and Zufa was gonna take 20 million of that, they would recoup at least, and maybe even profit, and so that's the value of selling him to Ryan Garcia.
01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:29.279
Then if he loses to Ryan Garcia, right, he's still gonna have some value.
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:45.359
I mean, he's not gonna be world level, but you bring him back to Zoo for now and you let him get beat on by Richardson Hitchens, which would be another big fight, and you can get simply off of it.
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:49.520
I was thinking that's exactly what's gonna happen.
01:43:52.000 --> 01:44:03.600
Oh man, they're gonna do them like Eddie Hearn did um um Kel Brook when he fought Triple G and then he lost triple G, then he threw him in the ring with Earl Spitch.
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:04.720
Right.
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.640
He's like taking it's like a race runs.
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:11.920
It's like I'm gonna get for both sides of you right now, and then we like sending off the pasture.
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:13.199
Exactly.
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:14.159
Yeah, all right.
01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:16.159
Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:20.239
You know, what would do you want to see Oscar and and and Dana work together?
01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:23.119
Do you want to see uh Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben?
01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:25.199
I mean, who do you have winning that fight?
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:28.800
I think we all have Ryan Garcia, but you know, Connor Ben might find.
01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:32.720
I mean, hey, these are the two guys who both so pop, so they should just make an agreement.
01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:34.239
Like, look, you take what you want to take.
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:38.720
I take what I want to take, and we figure it out afterwards.
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:40.560
No, listen, make an agreement.
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.279
Connor's a live dog in that fight because one, you you don't know what Ryan's gonna show up.
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:47.840
Roley did beat Ryan, and that's true.
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I told you, I think Ryan's a front runner.
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If you can hurt him early and you can show him this isn't a walk in the park, he doesn't fight the same as when he has a lot of confidence.
01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:00.720
So don't get it twisted.
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Connor Ben is not a pump, but I still think Ryan will whoop his ass.
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:09.920
Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments.
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.239
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