Late Night Chat with Jeff Wolverton: Open discussion, Sep 8, 2026, live on Baba Zoom

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Yeah,
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>> we got the recording.
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>> Shall I say again? Welcome to the late
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night night chat all of you.
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And uh I hope uh you don't hesitate to
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be a part of this. Don't hesitate to
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join in
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and share
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and let's you know bring Baba here and
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see what he comes up with as we try our
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new format.
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And I don't know, Virginia, you I don't
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know if you heard uh we we've came to
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the end of effort and grace the fourth
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time. So, we decided to just wing it,
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you know, spontaneously and see what
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comes. But, um I'm going to read a a
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quote. They wanted me to read a quote at
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the beginning and hopefully go her with
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her usual quote at the end.
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So this quote, yikes, can hardly see.
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This quote is from Baba
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and it's in the new book by Eric. And
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this is something that Baba uh that Eric
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would share from time to time in
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Manderly Hall. And uh here it is now in
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print, but I find it thrilling. And this
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is what Dang though I got to get some
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more light here. Just a second.
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This is Boba saying
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there is no time when I am not with you
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all on earth in human form.
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God is ever present. But on one pretext
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or another, he is present somewhere at
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all times.
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I cannot stand back and allow the
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devotion of my lover to pour out and not
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manifest
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to uh myself to receive it. So it
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becomes incumbent on me to manifest to
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serve somebody or a family or to become
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the companion of someone. It is the
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intensity of their love that makes me
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manifest.
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What I like about that is is that, you
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know, Bob didn't just leave in 1969. We
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tend to kind of think that, well, he
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went off somewhere. But Baba could be
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one of the guests that comes here to the
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center. He could be someone who uh a
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postman that shows up at your door. In
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the Hinduism
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uh they say always welcome strangers at
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your door because that stranger could be
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uh Krishna or Ram and uh so that makes
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everybody's every someone out there
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could be our beloved so you never know
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which one. So you have to kind of
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be careful of and and loving toward
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everyone. Okay. But here's what I was
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>> Jeff. Can you give us the page of that
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book and the name of the books just so
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it can be
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>> It's uh it's this book called B
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Befitting a Fortunate Slave. It's the
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biography of Eric
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and it's on page uh well it really
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starts in 623
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to 625
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but it's where they Baba talks about in
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between advents when he comes. So, it's
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it's uh very kind of special, I think,
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and thrilling that he could be around
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anywhere. He could be he could even be
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in uh Missouri, but I I kind of doubt
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it. But yeah.
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Okay.
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>> Is that a Is that a Sherri Press
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offering or where do you find that?
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>> Um let me see.
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I think it is. Let me double check.
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Yeah, Sher Sherriar Foundation. It's
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really a superb book because it's it's
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not just a biography, but it's um Eric
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in his own words, the stories he shared
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in Manderlay Hall. So, it's well worth
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it.
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Anyway, I thought before we begin, if uh
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Marta could read just what we kind of
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came to last week, just so that you,
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whoever wasn't here, kind of knows what
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we discussed, some of the options and
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everything.
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>> Okay. Number one, what is your Boba
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like?
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Number two, compassion for ourselves and
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others.
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Three stories around taking Baba's name
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and then what happens.
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Four, personal anecdotes about ourselves
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and Baba.
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Five, choose specific theme and everyone
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brings something on that topic.
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Six, what's going on in your life and
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how you take it to Baba?
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Seven, what are you working on in your
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life with Baba?
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Eight, discourses, short paragraphs, not
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long readings and how they relate to us
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in our day-to-day life.
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Nine. Be spontaneous.
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10. To be in this time in creation and
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our internal links.
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11. Personal stories of Baba in our
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day-to-day life.
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12. How I came to Baba. Please keep it
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short.
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13. Open with questions. Does anyone
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have anything they want to talk about?
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And 14. Jeff brings a quote to open the
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meeting each session and go here with a
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closing quote.
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>> Okay.
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Anybody feel inspired
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to share anything or ask a question or
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anything that uh that's on uh kind of
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what Marta read out there
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>> or anything else though. It could be
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anything. Those are just ideas that
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>> Yeah, those are ones came up with.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Jeff at the end last week, I think
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he kind of meant it jokingly, but I
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don't think it was a bad suggestion of
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asking people what their baba looks
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like.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah, that was the first one, right?
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>> Oh, was that was that your first one?
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Okay. Well, I mean it, you know, it's
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>> it's one of those I mean, we are all are
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fascinated with how we came to Baba, but
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then there's this whole period of after
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you come to Baba,
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how Baba evolves, how you evolve, how
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your relationship with him evolves. It's
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like, okay, you came to Baba, that's an
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interesting story. Now, what's happened
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since? And of course, that could
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encompass a lot of the topics that Marta
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just ratted off.
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Yeah, I think it's kind of interesting.
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What is your Baba like? I mean, is he
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kind of, you know, disapproving? Is he
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very accepting? Is he lenient? Is he
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humorous? Oh, hey, Candy. Let's see what
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>> That was an accident. I didn't mean to.
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>> Oh, that's too bad.
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>> It's okay. Too bad.
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>> There are no accidents.
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>> Got to go.
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>> Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. My baba.
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My father
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is
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like the new life father.
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He's my closest friend and companion.
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And yet he is also my master who I must
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please and obey.
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Yet at the same time he's also my father
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and I am his naughty child.
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>> I got it.
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>> Who he constantly and compassionately
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forgives. And also he has a fantastic
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sense of humor and we joke around a lot.
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So that's who my father is.
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>> Beautiful. No, that's great.
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I like that guy.
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>> Oh, yeah. He's a great guy.
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He he fulfills many roles, but I but
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he's he's mainly very much like the new
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life father.
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Yeah. Well, what do you mean exactly by
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>> well
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>> that?
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>> Well,
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he's my companion,
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>> but at the same time,
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>> I have to remember that he is God.
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>> So, so I have to keep the two.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And and I think that's what he he that's
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how he was in the new life. That's what
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he told the
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>> Sorry about that.
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>> The Manderly peace. You're gonna have
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it.
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Huh?
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>> Jeff, please mute. Jeff Ashbell, please
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mute your screen. Thank you.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, so yeah, but you know, like I said,
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also, not only is he that, but he has a
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fantastic sense of humor. I joke around
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with him all the time and he laughs and
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he finds me funny and he likes that. He
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likes that about me. and and and also
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but he's I'm also a naughty child as
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well because but he's always he's never
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angry Baba my father is never actually
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angry with me. Okay. So that's another
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thing.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I am never angry with him ever
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no matter what happens to me.
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So we have that going.
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>> Yeah. No, that's great.
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I like that.
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>> Yeah. Anyway, that's my father.
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>> Anyone else want to weigh in on that
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particular subject?
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>> Tom, since you brought it up, do you
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have a Baba idea in your heart?
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>> Yeah, my uh
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my Baba
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is a lot like what Candy described.
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Um, I would add to that that
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I feel his presence.
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My baba is a is a feeling. I mean, I can
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I can try to envision him, but that's
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usually just an imagination in my mind.
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But there are times when I get that
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I don't know that weepy, melty,
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bittersweet
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feeling that I first got when I walked
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up to the samadei in Marab Hill.
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I mean, it took me three days to go up
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there without the water works starting.
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So, I'm pretty familiar with what that
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feels like. And every now and then
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something will happen and I'll feel that
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and I'll know that's him. It's not a
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mistake. It's not anything else I can
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do.
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The rest of the time I spend
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wrestling with trying to
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discern his presence in my intuition
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versus my intellect. I I really have a
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hard time
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figuring out whether it's just sansgaric
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effluent bubbling up to the surface and
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suggesting I should do this or feel that
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or whether it's truly intuition
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and I I think I've gotten better with
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that. you know, hearing his intuitive
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voice, which is pretty subtle, pretty
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quiet relative to the clamor of
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everything else that's usually going on
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in my brain.
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And I think for me that's the biggest
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challenge is
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hearing him. I can feel him, but that's
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not all the time. Certainly not every
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day. So, you know, throughout the day,
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it's like trying to tune in, trying to
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trying to discern his voice.
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That's that's been a big challenge for
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me for a long time. That's that's
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something that's ongoing
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with me.
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>> Beautiful. Yeah, I can relate to that.
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>> Yes, Helen.
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>> Yes.
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Um, I would say my my baba is like the
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best boyfriend anybody ever has. Like,
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um, whenever I hear a love song, you
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know, that like tugs at my heart, I it's
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just I put Baba's face there and it's
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it's that love song. And it's the kind
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of boyfriend that makes you want to be
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the best person you can. Um and that's
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that's like the biggest change in my
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life since I came to Baba which was
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actually not that long you know 15 years
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from you guys have been there for
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decades and decades but but I've just
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become a better person and um that
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yeah
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um the the feeling of a of him always
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being there and caring about me so much
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that makes me care about everything else
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so much and
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um all all the great things about a
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boyfriend are all wrapped up in Papa but
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but none of the bad things and and but
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the the best part is uh how it brings
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out the best in me and always um there
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if I if I have a question and I don't
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know what to do I just get quiet and ask
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and boom it just it just comes the right
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answer comes it's almost like it was in
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there already. But um anyway, so that's
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all I have to say.
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>> Yeah. I mean, a boyfriend that you don't
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have to ask to take the garbage out,
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right?
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>> Yeah.
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Yeah. And you just want to do do
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everything for him because you love him
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so much, you know?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Wow.
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Anyone else?
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Anyone else want to venture out? It It's
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It's something we don't often ask
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ourselves.
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I think
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>> I have a thought coming up.
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>> Who is that? Virginia. It's Virginia.
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>> Oh, hi V. Yeah.
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>> Hi.
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>> Um, first of all, it's just good to be
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back here again. I'm glad to see all of
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you.
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>> Um, and yeah, everything that everyone
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else said definitely applies and is my
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Baba. The intuition and the voice and
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the jokes. Like, he's always got
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something funny to say and he catches me
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off guard a lot of the time. But the
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image that was just coming up too was
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like my lighthouse and he's always there
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and sometimes I can see him and
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sometimes I'm so caught up in the storm
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that he's not visible but then if I just
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quiet down I'll feel him. Um but yeah,
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just that navigation point in my
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lighthouse and everyone's lighthouse
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like patients that I work with in the
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hospital. I can feel him being a guide
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for them, you know, either through their
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own vision or through the things they're
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hearing or sometimes through things he
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asks me to say to them. So yeah, that
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that lighthouse image right now.
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>> Great image,
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>> especially in a storm. Yeah. Diane.
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Hi.
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>> Hi there.
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>> Oops.
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>> One minute.
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>> We have two machines going on here.
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>> Um
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I think my baba is a little aloof. um in
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the aspect that
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I I have to remind I have to bring him
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in
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he's not tapping on my shoulder and
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telling me things.
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Uh, I've told the story and I won't tell
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the whole story, but it was at an event
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where a psychic said to me, and she knew
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nothing about me, that she sees Baba all
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around me.
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And it just totally blew me away.
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>> And that's kind of how it has been is
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that he's right there, but it's me.
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Maybe I'm calling him aloof. Maybe I am
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the one that moved
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>> and needs to move back.
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>> But when I talked to him and and I've
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been going through a lot of health
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stuff, so I've been leaning on him a lot
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and I've been really really careful not
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to say anything like please cure me
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rather cuz I don't know why I'm going
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through this and I'm always told that he
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has a reason to do this. So, my feeling
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is that
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I don't know. I think I'm jumping all
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over the place.
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I think of him at the typical times in
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the morning before I get out of bed,
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12:00, 5:00. I do a lot of external
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reminders. We have a lot of
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photos of him at all different ages.
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Um, my Baba when I think of Baba is more
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in the mature stage of life, which was
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really surprising to me uh for quite a
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while. I thought I would go for the
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younger Baba. Uh, but I I think I'm just
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going to ramble, so I'm not going to do
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that anymore.
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>> No. Very interesting.
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>> Ramble away.
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>> Yeah, I I don't see that as rambling. I
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I see that as something I struggle with,
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too. is it feels like I need to do the
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reaching out.
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Um he's not tapping me on the shoulder
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all the time. He does from time to time,
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no question. But you know, I think there
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I think there's a certain amount of we
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all need to initiate the contact. It's,
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you know, unless we happen to be at the
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tomb or maybe at the center of the
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lagoon cavern or something where he
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never leaves. Um I don't know, maybe
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he's busy. He's got things he's got to
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do. He's got you got to say, "Hey, I'm
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here."
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>> Yeah, Rich.
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>> Um
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Um I'd like to tell my short story, but
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I'll just call it my story. It will be
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brief. When I was young, I didn't didn't
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really realize any of this.
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As a kid, you just come in, you know,
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you got your mom and you know, hopefully
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she takes care of a lot of business for
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you and you start getting more who you
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might be. And u who you might be is what
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Baba calls your Caitana. And Chaitana is
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very simple idea. According to Baba, you
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have Chayana all the way up through God
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realization that becomes your unique
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individualized God realization or self.
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But in the meantime, especially
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looking around for what the hell is this
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stuff, you know, um it can be very
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confusing for most people. I think it
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is. And we have all these stories and
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we're lucky we have all these Baba
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stories people that um
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that actually u tell us parts of their
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stories especially the way they relate
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to Baba and how he relates back. But for
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me as I got I had a major accident sort
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of incident after I heard the ball and
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it was drugreated and it was really
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traumatic but over time so Baba grabbed
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me and began really helped me right
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away.
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But um the gist of all that is
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uh I was always curious about what the
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hell is my experience? I don't get it. I
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just don't get it. I tried looking into
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psychology and I dabbled a little in you
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know western astrology. I thought that
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was kind of useless. So I moved on to
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Hindu astrology and that I found some
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interesting stuff in but eventually all
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of this was all along with Baba because
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I was searching for who am I? I'm like
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that's what it was. So my experience was
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that I was nothing. I don't know if
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anybody else here experiences that but
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my experience was that I am nothing.
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That's very hard and very difficult
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because you have to live in this world
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and adjust to the world of creation
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while you're nothing. How do you do it?
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What do you grab hold of? I had nothing.
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It was all I had turned out was
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all I had.
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And that constant constant uh agony of
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being nothing in this world uh made me
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yearn and baba was always there always
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there present if I was if I could be
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available but of course while I was
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working my mind was consumed with trying
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to do this trying to do that different
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varieties of stuff we all are familiar
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with but now that I'm aging out and uh
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have not had to go to work. I've
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realized that when you go to work,
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you're sharing a lot of sense scars with
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a lot of people. So, you know, you have
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Baba to try to shelter you from all of
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these sense scars. Marriages are like
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that. Children are like that. I'm sure
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all kinds of responsibilities.
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But now that I'm aging out, it's more
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like
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there's only one real purpose and that's
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who am I? And Baba is the only only one
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who can answer that question for any of
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us and all of us. But but um so in my
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case I'm really grateful that Baba is
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present because I have no reality other
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than when and whenever I feel Baba when
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I feel Baba I'm real. I don't feel Baba.
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I'm just I'm just a moth
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waiting to
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die off. And nothing satisfies
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whoever I am in the Caitana world except
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Baba. It's just so that's my real story.
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J Baba.
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>> Yeah. Wow.
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Very
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>> J Baba.
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>> Yeah. Beautiful
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>> Tony.
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>> Yeah. I was I had something in mind and
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I and a phrase was running through my
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mind and I I said I think it's like a
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poem from Francis. I I looked it up
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first. I'll just read it's short. It's a
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message from Baba in July of 1968
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where he says God always existed. God
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will always exist. He is never changing
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ever the same and illusion is his
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eternal game. And then later in August,
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Barbara continued with the theme saying
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everlasting, never ending, never
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changing, ever the same and his oneness
00:24:05.679 --> 00:24:08.070
in its fullness plays in manyess his
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game. But what I was hearing that I was
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.870
trying to thinking I would share was
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.750
never changing, ever the same. Ever
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changing, never the same. So I find that
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Baba in my life especially now looking
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back over 50 so years and um it it's he
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is
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whatever I need him to be in terms of
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whatever he needs me to be at that time.
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So it's constantly changing and it's
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like different now than it was a year
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ago or a couple of months ago. And it's
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certainly different than it than I
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thought it was for maybe 20 or 30 years.
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So it's it's a change ever changing
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thing. Bob's presence is always there,
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but in different ways. Um, also about
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the quote from Eric's book. I've
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experienced this a bunch of times
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starting with a taxi driver who drove me
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home from late night shift at the UN and
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it but that's a whole story and there
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are several stories but I just say that
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that it happened frequently enough that
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I started saying to Baba look if you're
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going to do this it would always be that
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after the person was gone I would
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realize it was Bob
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>> Y
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>> and and I said Baba let me this time
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know that it's while I'm while you're
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here And it came close where a a fellow
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and a woman who were driving Zeke and
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Elena home from the hospital where she'd
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had sepsis and no one else would pick
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her up. And suddenly this u this not an
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ambulance but one of those you know
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.909
hospital cars drove them home and in
00:25:49.919 --> 00:25:52.390
retrospect it was clearly Baba and Mea
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and the conversation was absolutely like
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on spot but I didn't realize it until it
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was over. And on one occasion,
00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:05.110
not too long ago, even in the past year,
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and I don't remember all the details,
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.390
but this fellow came over to talk to me,
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.549
and I was saying something to Baba at
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.830
the time internally, and he came back,
00:26:13.840 --> 00:26:15.750
and it was as if he heard me, and he
00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:17.269
brought up something about Baba.
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Sometimes they'll bring up something
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about Baba. And
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I I like answered it as if it was
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normal, but it was like, "This is Baba.
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This is Baba." Thank I asked you let me
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know it's you while it's happening and I
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turned around for something and when I
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turned back he was gone.
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>> Yeah.
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>> No, that's that's been the experience of
00:26:37.760 --> 00:26:39.350
a lot of people I've heard over the
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years.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And Baba says he knows the avatar even
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.430
though he's playing the role of a
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.470
mailman or a delivery boy or something
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.029
like that.
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>> Oh, he definitely knows cuz because
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sometime in these occasions he's he's
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.950
got there a little smile. There's like a
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.029
little joke that he's not letting on
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until it's too late.
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>> Yep. No, that's
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>> J.
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>> Yes. Millers. I don't know what your
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.549
first name is. Miller.
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>> Stephen.
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>> Steven Paul Miller.
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>> Oh, Stephen. Hi.
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>> Long Island.
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>> No, Staten Island. Staten Island. I was
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.950
born on Staten Island. I'm in the island
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of Manhattan.
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>> Yeah. Oh, you're back in Manhattan now.
00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:23.590
Okay.
00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:26.710
But um no, I mean obviously that's an
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.669
easy there's an easy answer,
00:27:29.679 --> 00:27:35.190
you know, as Bob is everything but me,
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.510
you know, in a way we're all saints. We
00:27:37.520 --> 00:27:40.310
could see God, but we can't be God, you
00:27:40.320 --> 00:27:44.230
know. Um, you know, uh, I I sort of
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.909
reminded that on Silence Day. Um, you
00:27:47.919 --> 00:27:49.510
know, I was playing pickle ball at the
00:27:49.520 --> 00:27:51.750
YMCA
00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:55.750
and, um, I I I wrote out a note. This
00:27:55.760 --> 00:27:58.070
might seem weird, but I keep silence
00:27:58.080 --> 00:28:01.350
every July 10th. I'll tell you why next
00:28:01.360 --> 00:28:04.950
time I see you. Right. So, um,
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.310
>> that's your note.
00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:10.230
>> Yeah. Uh but but now uh three people
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.950
googled it. Who keep why do people keep
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.470
silence on July 10th? So they came to me
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.789
and said uh you follow Mayor Baba.
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.310
>> Yeah.
00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:27.269
>> You know and um and and um you know and
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.110
that nobody thought it was weird. They
00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:32.549
all, you know, it was um, you know, and
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.430
I said the obvious thing to one woman.
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.870
Um, I said, you know, I'm always yelling
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.630
about the points. I'm always
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.510
complaining. I'm always upset at pickle
00:28:43.520 --> 00:28:45.190
ball.
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.310
You know, you're you're lowkey whatever
00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:51.110
anybody thinks is okay. You're so
00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:53.350
accepting. You're so much better a
00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:56.070
babble lover than I am. You know, and
00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:57.510
she's saying, "Oh, really? I didn't."
00:28:57.520 --> 00:29:00.149
you know, but but really uh if you think
00:29:00.159 --> 00:29:03.990
of it, you know, uh we're here to treat
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.710
everybody like Baba. It's exactly like,
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.990
you know, you fed me and that was Jesus
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.149
says that was me, you know. But there's
00:29:12.159 --> 00:29:14.710
there's truth to that, you know. It
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:19.029
really is true that um you know, I mean,
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.710
actually, one thing I thought when when
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:25.510
the question was asked was um well, what
00:29:25.520 --> 00:29:28.149
is Bob? Bob is always Bob is always
00:29:28.159 --> 00:29:30.710
pushing me. Bob is always saving me.
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.310
Those were the two things I kind of
00:29:32.320 --> 00:29:34.710
thought at first. Bob is always so you
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.149
got to get on the stage, you got to do
00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:38.789
this, you got to do that,
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.750
you know. Uh I think it sort of emanates
00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:44.470
from uh once I asked Eric if I should
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.630
get a PhD, you know, and he said, "Of
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.149
course, Baba doesn't want you to be a
00:29:50.159 --> 00:29:54.950
bomb, you know." and and uh so there's
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.710
always that thing that Bob is always
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.430
saving me from being a bomb for decades,
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.389
you know. Uh you know, so but but but
00:30:02.399 --> 00:30:05.669
what he said was actually just now is
00:30:05.679 --> 00:30:10.070
said, "Oh, you get a PhD and then um you
00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:12.470
know, the the the the students will
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.549
believe you. You know, you you could
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.549
tell them don't take drugs, you'll have
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.149
a good effect if because you have a PhD,
00:30:20.159 --> 00:30:22.230
you know." So I never I always thought
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.230
that was a little silly. But then uh
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.389
somebody at the registar at the
00:30:28.399 --> 00:30:32.070
university where I teach you know told
00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:34.950
me uh you know you don't know it but we
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.789
always give you the worst students
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.510
because we know you'll get them through.
00:30:39.520 --> 00:30:41.990
We know that you'll push them through.
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.909
They they'll they'll get through your
00:30:43.919 --> 00:30:46.870
class you know. And then uh around the
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.310
same time, you know, students started
00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:52.710
coming back. I became a lawyer because
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:54.710
of you. You know, I was going to drop
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.710
out, but I made it through your class
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.950
and I thought I could do it and now I'm
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.110
going to be a lawyer or the same thing
00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:04.070
with teacher and stuff like that. I'm
00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:06.870
not saying it that I did anything good.
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.950
It's just that I treated everybody like
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:09.990
Boba.
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.269
>> Beautiful. Yeah.
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.350
>> You know,
00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:15.269
>> fantastic.
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.510
And all that from Staten Island. Can you
00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:18.149
believe it?
00:31:18.159 --> 00:31:22.950
>> Yeah.
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:28.630
Yeah. Great.
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.269
Anyone else?
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.669
>> Robert,
00:31:33.679 --> 00:31:34.549
>> I think. Yeah.
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:34.870
>> Yeah.
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:35.669
>> Robert.
00:31:35.679 --> 00:31:38.389
>> Yes. Yes. Um, yeah. I'm just been
00:31:38.399 --> 00:31:40.950
meditating here and thinking about this.
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.389
And for me, uh, Bob is like my intuitive
00:31:44.399 --> 00:31:48.389
guide that I I frequently when I go
00:31:48.399 --> 00:31:51.110
through my day, I'll ask for guidance
00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:53.110
and I'll get a decision or a guidance
00:31:53.120 --> 00:31:55.669
from Baba as to what to do. Uh,
00:31:55.679 --> 00:31:58.310
yesterday I was indecisive about what I
00:31:58.320 --> 00:31:59.509
was going to do in the afternoon. It was
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.710
a simple thing and I I went with what
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.549
the guide guidance that I got from Baba
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.149
and it was the right thing. I went to
00:32:06.159 --> 00:32:08.070
spend time with friends and I felt you
00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:10.789
know I felt connected with uh the world
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:12.789
and and and and it was a beautiful
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.350
beautiful time that I had. Um, I also
00:32:15.360 --> 00:32:18.230
see Baba as uh the most selfless being
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.230
that ever existed
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.269
uh in terms of his sacrifice that he
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.909
made uh you know um for us in terms of
00:32:27.919 --> 00:32:32.149
his suffering and uh you know I you know
00:32:32.159 --> 00:32:34.149
I I can't think of a better friend that
00:32:34.159 --> 00:32:37.029
would do as much sacrifice that he did.
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.350
He's the ultimate friend that would
00:32:39.360 --> 00:32:42.389
sacrifice so much just for my sake and
00:32:42.399 --> 00:32:45.190
for our sake. So I think uh that's how I
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.950
see Baba.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.470
>> Yeah. Beautiful.
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.389
One nice thing about being at the center
00:32:52.399 --> 00:32:55.750
is I get to see how Baba relates to so
00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:58.870
many different people and he's so
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.669
different you know it's I mean he's
00:33:03.679 --> 00:33:06.789
unlimited in the way he relates to us.
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.310
>> He's he's the Bob of your own
00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:09.830
understanding.
00:33:09.840 --> 00:33:12.070
I mean I mean I I hear that you know in
00:33:12.080 --> 00:33:14.230
12step they say uh God of your own
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:15.509
understanding that you know it's not
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.590
like no one's going to tell you how to
00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:20.149
perceive God. So I see that as similar
00:33:20.159 --> 00:33:23.110
in terms of Baba being your own Baba of
00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:24.549
your own understanding you know.
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:24.870
>> Yeah.
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.190
>> And I'm I also remember hearing Baba say
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.990
I am who you think I am.
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.389
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:34.399 --> 00:33:36.310
>> Jeff I have a question for you.
00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:39.509
>> Yeah. Do you does your relationship with
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.070
Baba change at all being in Myrtle Beach
00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:47.669
or Marabad?
00:33:47.679 --> 00:33:50.149
>> Oh, you mean when I'm in those places?
00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:55.430
>> Yeah.
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.350
>> Do you feel more connected
00:33:59.360 --> 00:34:02.870
when you're in India to him or because
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.669
you have less distraction of like
00:34:05.679 --> 00:34:08.230
>> Yeah. being a worker be at at the
00:34:08.240 --> 00:34:10.389
center.
00:34:10.399 --> 00:34:13.669
>> Yeah, I would say I get the luxury of
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.669
thinking about
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.869
I mean being with him uh without
00:34:18.879 --> 00:34:21.909
anything else uh uh taking away my
00:34:21.919 --> 00:34:23.430
attention.
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.069
So I get to kind of track him within my
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.230
you know within me or before me.
00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:33.430
But I know when I first got into Baba
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.790
this, you know, and I was young and I
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.109
kind of took, you know, the kind of life
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.310
I had to live, you know, be patient, be
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.430
kind, be, you know, not no envy, all all
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.230
of the different things he was asking.
00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:50.629
And I tried to do it all in a couple of
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.710
weeks. And I mean, Baba was like saying,
00:34:54.720 --> 00:34:56.230
Jeff, you're not going to be able to do
00:34:56.240 --> 00:34:58.390
this in one weekend. This is like a
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.950
whole lif. But Bob was like a mother to
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.470
me. I mean, the very feminine. I mean, I
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.310
I mean, of course, there's Bob, there's
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.470
the masculine kind of uh inspiring you
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.430
to go higher and higher, but I felt Bob
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.630
was more feminine with me.
00:35:16.640 --> 00:35:20.310
and and that worked better for me than
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.069
than uh pushing myself
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:25.589
uh
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.069
you know driving myself but just kind of
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.030
being more self-accepting more
00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:33.030
self-compassionate
00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:35.270
>> was a better path for me
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.349
>> in alignment with Dian's question she
00:35:37.359 --> 00:35:39.349
brought up a really good question how
00:35:39.359 --> 00:35:41.750
does that help you in relating to all
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.790
the others you encounter on the center
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.230
with Baba
00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:50.630
Well, I don't know. Somehow people seem
00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:53.270
very familiar to me. So, I'm kind of
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.270
relating. I don't know if I'm relating
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.030
to the Baba in them, but they are
00:35:57.040 --> 00:35:59.349
certainly familiar. I don't look at
00:35:59.359 --> 00:36:01.670
somebody and say, "Wow, what kind of
00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:04.150
person is that?" They all seem quite
00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:08.790
familiar and and connecting with that
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.510
maybe soul to soul or essence to essence
00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:14.710
is like thrilling, you know. It's not
00:36:14.720 --> 00:36:17.030
like um
00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:19.190
Yeah, they're Yeah, they're like
00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:22.390
families.
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.990
Yeah, like I kind of met them before.
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:27.670
I mean, not you guys. I mean, but I'm
00:36:27.680 --> 00:36:29.109
not talking about people there. No, I'm
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.109
just
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:33.670
No, it it's like
00:36:33.680 --> 00:36:37.670
I mean we are all
00:36:37.680 --> 00:36:40.790
I mean our uniforms are different our
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.190
clothing but you know we're really
00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:48.790
if if you get rid of the uh the good the
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.069
um approval disapproval likes and
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.030
dislikes you wind up kind of enjoying
00:36:55.040 --> 00:37:00.630
everybody. That's what I find anyway.
00:37:00.640 --> 00:37:04.710
Yeah.
00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:07.510
I mean, it really is Bob. Well, the one
00:37:07.520 --> 00:37:11.750
thing that helped me is not just Baba in
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.270
others, but Baba in disguise. That
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.430
person in front of you is Baba playing
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.630
the role of Sabine or playing the role
00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:23.829
of, you know, Jeff Aspel, you know. I
00:37:23.839 --> 00:37:28.550
mean it helps to me um see wow this
00:37:28.560 --> 00:37:31.190
person in front of me Bob is like
00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:34.069
disguise there is Tony Patterni
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.030
wow that's kind of and he wore the shirt
00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:47.829
that shirt today God is unbelievable
00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:52.150
>> yes Ron
00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:55.430
I'll give it a All right, let's see. Uh,
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.750
I've been reading Baba's books for many,
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.230
many years and messages and stories that
00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:05.750
the Model told about Baba. And
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.109
the all of that is loaded
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.230
with everything that tells you who Baba
00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:14.870
is. He's he keeps telling us in all
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.390
these different relationships that we
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.069
are able to have with him. And I like
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.069
almost all of them. I mean, I can't
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.230
think of anything that I don't like. I
00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:28.710
mean, I love being his slave and him
00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:31.670
being the master. I I love him being his
00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:37.430
companion uh in his his life and on and
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.790
on it goes. So I I I have an abundance a
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.589
treasure trove of all kinds of
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.109
relationships
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.349
that I experiment with with Baba and
00:38:49.359 --> 00:38:53.030
think of him in that manner. But when
00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:56.069
people were talking about u
00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:00.150
uh Baba making himself known
00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:04.390
uh I have to say that Baba doesn't come
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.829
and tap me on the shoulder very often.
00:39:07.839 --> 00:39:12.390
He has, but it's very infrequent. It
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.069
usually has to do with something that uh
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:17.670
I've
00:39:17.680 --> 00:39:19.990
ignored for a long time or and he's
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.870
allowed me to ignore for a long time.
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.190
And now it's time to uh get a new a new
00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:28.710
uh
00:39:28.720 --> 00:39:31.589
uh way of thinking about uh being in the
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.430
world uh and and pleasing him uh in my
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.150
in the way I am in the world. So it's I
00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:40.310
always think of it as a challenge. The
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.069
only time he he comes up to me if he
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.630
wants to challenge me with something new
00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:48.550
that uh is always obvious that I you
00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:51.109
know that the time is ripe for that kind
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.589
of challenge and then I go into it and
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.150
he shows me how to do it and uh
00:39:56.160 --> 00:40:01.270
everybody's happy. So I think uh that's
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.630
that's the Baba that I've been hanging
00:40:04.640 --> 00:40:09.910
with for for all this time and uh
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:14.230
I'm very thankful for feel fortunate.
00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:21.270
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:22.710
>> Sabine, did you hear? Yeah,
00:40:22.720 --> 00:40:25.910
>> I I did. Yeah. Sorry. A bit slow. It's
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.470
early here. I try to get my brain in
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.510
gear. Um I can so relate to all the
00:40:31.520 --> 00:40:34.069
wonderful aspects of Baba that have been
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.230
shared and um my Baba also likes to
00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:41.190
challenge me. you know, he he will
00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:44.790
sometimes come in what I call the list
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.270
and it's like this needs to be done that
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.430
way and then you do this and you do this
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.230
and I will sometimes sort of sit there
00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:55.589
and think really but I don't want to do
00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.150
any of that but you know being obedient
00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:02.550
I go through with it and the most
00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:05.510
amazing outcomes happen you know to
00:41:05.520 --> 00:41:07.510
problems I hadn't even perceived they
00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:10.390
are there and they sort of get solved
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.470
And sometimes he comes in with a list
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.630
like he wants me to do something last
00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:17.109
year. He wanted me to send a packet of
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.150
cheese to India. I was sitting in my
00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:22.870
meditation not thinking of anything
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.750
related to that. And he comes in with
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.589
this list what he wants in a packet and
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.309
I said but but it's like the cheese will
00:41:30.319 --> 00:41:32.950
never survive you know if I send it to
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.950
India now. I mean it was winter but
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.430
still temperatures in India. And he
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.069
taught me exactly what she to buy, how
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.430
to wrap it, how to pack it, sort of
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.309
absolutely particular. And it's not
00:41:46.319 --> 00:41:48.710
something I wanted to do. And I never
00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:50.950
expected that cheese to survive. And it
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.230
did. They all enjoyed it in Mirata. They
00:41:54.240 --> 00:41:57.430
told me later, you know. So, um, I get a
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.550
lot of little and bigger challenges from
00:42:00.560 --> 00:42:03.430
Baba. At the moment, I'm doing it. I
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.069
have no clue about it and all that, but
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.550
you know, sort of dealing with cameras
00:42:08.560 --> 00:42:11.430
and doing things on WhatsApp and so
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.430
yeah, I think he he likes to keep me on
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.750
my toes, not to be too complacent and
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.710
too too comfy.
00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:20.150
>> Mhm.
00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:22.150
>> And were you in Switzerland when you
00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:23.990
sent that cheese?
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.829
>> No, it was in Germany. Oh,
00:42:25.839 --> 00:42:28.790
>> you know, I even had to send off for,
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.190
you know, it it's a cheese that you need
00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:35.030
a certain gadget for to cut it and I had
00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:36.630
to order it from Switzerland. Couldn't
00:42:36.640 --> 00:42:38.150
get it in Germany. I mean, it was a
00:42:38.160 --> 00:42:39.349
whole kuffle
00:42:39.359 --> 00:42:41.349
>> and I thought it will never be on towing
00:42:41.359 --> 00:42:43.990
because there was a timeline and yeah,
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.470
it all worked out. Absolutely. You know,
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.349
and you know, whenever I I tell that I
00:42:49.359 --> 00:42:50.870
will be sending something, everybody's
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.950
like, "Oh, we got stuck in customs. It
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.950
would never arrive." We had that happen.
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:56.870
so much. And I always tell Baba, well, I
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:58.470
do all the things you want, but you have
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.870
to make sure that packet arrived. And so
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.950
far, all the packets I've sent arrived
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.910
in under three weeks. Nothing ever got
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.550
stuck. And you know,
00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:13.190
>> I could never pull that off.
00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:16.069
>> And they don't have very good cheese in
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:17.670
Ahmed Nagger.
00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:20.309
>> No, but they love it, you know. So
00:43:20.319 --> 00:43:22.069
>> terrible.
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.230
Maybe they were calling out to B for
00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:26.470
cheese and he thought, "Oh, I just know
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:27.589
the person."
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:29.990
>> What kind of cheese was it?
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.069
>> I was thinking Swiss cheese.
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.390
>> It is a Swiss cheese. It's called tuman
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.950
>> and it's one you sort of shave off with
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.950
a very sharp knife.
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.710
>> Yeah.
00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:44.630
>> You know, and it's it's sort of it's
00:43:44.640 --> 00:43:48.470
wrapped in a big waxy layer.
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.309
Hey, that's why Baba picked it because
00:43:50.319 --> 00:43:52.470
that is probably the only one that would
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.270
survive a journey to India
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.829
>> and then we wrapped it in sort of
00:43:57.839 --> 00:44:00.630
insulating stuff and you know and it
00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:02.309
made it I never thought it would you
00:44:02.319 --> 00:44:04.390
know I really thought they would tell me
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.030
it's spoiled in the packet
00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:09.030
>> but it's not something I wanted to do
00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:10.870
absolutely not
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.390
>> but as he says Sabine it's for you to do
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.550
and for and you leave the result to him
00:44:16.560 --> 00:44:19.990
right so he takes care of it and he did
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:21.270
perfectly.
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:22.470
>> Beautiful.
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.390
>> That's right.
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.150
>> Helen.
00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:27.109
>> Oh, sorry, Jeff.
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.030
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:32.390
>> Yeah. Just um real quick, I had an
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.309
experience when people were talking
00:44:34.319 --> 00:44:37.349
about uh Baba tapping them on the
00:44:37.359 --> 00:44:39.190
shoulder. I had an experience on
00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:40.870
Thursday. I had to go to the dentist,
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.430
which I mean, I've been through child
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.190
birth three times. I don't know, the
00:44:45.200 --> 00:44:47.910
dentist is terrifying to me. And um they
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:49.750
always have to give me nitrous cuz my
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.349
blood pressure shoots up. I get
00:44:51.359 --> 00:44:53.109
terrified and I don't know what that's
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.230
about. But um the thing about nitrous
00:44:56.240 --> 00:44:58.550
and I know you can't find God in a pill
00:44:58.560 --> 00:45:02.230
or the nitrous but it and maybe it's the
00:45:02.240 --> 00:45:04.390
fear that my body's in. It just takes me
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.870
right to Baba. And I have the most
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.349
extraordinary uh feelings of love for
00:45:09.359 --> 00:45:12.870
Baba when I'm on nitrous. I hesitate to
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.589
say that because you know drugs and baba
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.230
don't mix. But it's I just I had to have
00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:20.870
some work done anyway. But this time he
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.790
really tapped me on the shoulder towards
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.630
the end of the appointment. And um he
00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:30.710
just he he said to me loud and clear,
00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:33.190
you can do better.
00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:35.190
And I knew exactly what he was talking
00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:38.790
about. Um I waste a lot of time. Um, and
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.589
and I know I do and I could be doing a
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:45.829
lot better with with um
00:45:45.839 --> 00:45:48.470
becoming closer to Baba every day. And I
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.270
don't and I kind of I'm like, well, I I
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.349
could read Baba books right now or I
00:45:53.359 --> 00:45:55.510
could pray. No, I want to watch some
00:45:55.520 --> 00:45:59.190
stupid thing on TV more. So, um, it was
00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:01.030
it was just a loud and clear message
00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:03.190
that's just reverberated through me. You
00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:05.670
can do better. You can do better. And um
00:46:05.680 --> 00:46:09.430
anyway, it it really really affected me.
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:11.030
>> Yeah.
00:46:11.040 --> 00:46:12.230
>> Beautiful
00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:17.270
>> Bob.
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.870
>> Yes. I um I think that uh
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:26.550
my Baba that I rely on and lean on most
00:46:26.560 --> 00:46:29.589
is as
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:35.670
uh the the my father who will somehow
00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:37.670
lead me through whatever difficult
00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:41.670
situation arises. Um,
00:46:41.680 --> 00:46:43.910
I find that
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.150
um
00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:48.230
I tend to worry about things far too
00:46:48.240 --> 00:46:50.950
much and I it's it's it's a it's a trait
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.030
that I've never been able to completely
00:46:53.040 --> 00:46:56.630
deal with. But I find that when when uh
00:46:56.640 --> 00:46:59.750
when difficult situations arise
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.069
and uh especially more than one at a
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.630
time and I start worrying about what
00:47:04.640 --> 00:47:06.470
will I do? How can I deal with this?
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.630
What is going on? I find that Baba
00:47:10.640 --> 00:47:13.510
somehow sorts things. I mean he doesn't
00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:15.750
make things disappear.
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.710
Baba once said to someone, I never give
00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:21.030
you more than you can bear. And I find
00:47:21.040 --> 00:47:24.630
that to be quite true. uh somehow Baba
00:47:24.640 --> 00:47:28.550
sorts things out and makes them
00:47:28.560 --> 00:47:31.270
it he makes it possible for me to deal
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.750
with whatever the situation is rather
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:39.750
than being overwhelmed by it. So um
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:40.870
>> Oh
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.870
>> yeah, and I I think we share all that
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.030
too everybody.
00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:49.750
Well, I was I'm gonna be bold and ask uh
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.550
Patty Curtis
00:47:52.560 --> 00:47:54.230
>> anything
00:47:54.240 --> 00:47:56.550
I mean there I mean there's so many ways
00:47:56.560 --> 00:47:59.510
that Baba enters our life and interfaces
00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:01.910
with our life but
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:05.589
even if you choose one or two
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.230
>> u well hello J Baba
00:48:08.240 --> 00:48:12.309
>> I I got here a little late I'm sorry um
00:48:12.319 --> 00:48:15.109
>> what the the thing was is what is your
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.230
baba like
00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:18.630
>> that that I' I've kind of got that from
00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:20.230
what everybody said
00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:24.069
>> and um
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.870
>> from the beginning to now there's been a
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.430
lot of different babas
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.069
and um
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.190
definitely my father
00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:37.829
definitely um
00:48:37.839 --> 00:48:40.069
my mother
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.190
the only true friend I know that has
00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:45.829
been there constantly and constantly and
00:48:45.839 --> 00:48:46.950
constantly
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.430
Even when I have walked away, which I
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.910
have done
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.990
and now, oh God, now
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.790
it's a real um
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.510
well, my prayer every day
00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:03.430
wholeheartedly,
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.150
beloved God, help me to see you and feel
00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:11.190
your love in everyone and everything.
00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:13.990
And seriously,
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.069
it is happening.
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:22.309
And um
00:49:22.319 --> 00:49:24.470
my path is really complicated.
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.870
Evidently,
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.470
it's getting more complicated by the
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.870
day. Uh,
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.349
and and he's a trickster with me about
00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:38.150
that, which is really the irony and the
00:49:38.160 --> 00:49:40.230
joke that he's playing with me on this
00:49:40.240 --> 00:49:42.309
because I'm thinking I'm the body, of
00:49:42.319 --> 00:49:46.710
course, and I'm not. And yet the form
00:49:46.720 --> 00:49:50.150
that I'm wearing is um
00:49:50.160 --> 00:49:51.990
a big
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.870
conglomerate of
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.750
challenges.
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.910
And every time I think I'm going to get
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.710
an answer, it comes back something that
00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:05.990
would be not even expected.
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.990
So then I'm back to step one
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.390
and um
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.309
I think I you know then I go for a
00:50:14.319 --> 00:50:16.549
treatment or something and then that
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.030
produces another complication and and so
00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:25.510
I read in the new book the number seven
00:50:25.520 --> 00:50:30.710
treasures book of uh fall uh falahari
00:50:30.720 --> 00:50:32.870
um which was a a sweet little thing that
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.390
made me laugh out loud and it really was
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.790
about laughing out loud at the drama of
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.390
being of of suffering
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.190
and how much he had suffered at Marisad
00:50:43.200 --> 00:50:45.190
and and then one of his friends was
00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:47.109
finally coming and complaining how much
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.230
she suffered and so he was going to tell
00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:53.589
her this joke and this story and it was
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.309
about really
00:50:56.319 --> 00:51:00.710
the first five years you're you're you
00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:02.630
have to suffer you have to suffer you
00:51:02.640 --> 00:51:04.870
have to suffer and this is what has to
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.790
happen.
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.790
But then what about the next five years?
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.510
Well, you get used to it and then you
00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:16.790
just let it go and and I was just like,
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:18.790
"Oh my god, really? Do I you know, and
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:20.390
how you open the book and that's what
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.549
you're going to read, right?" And of
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.510
course, I was in that pity party Patty
00:51:25.520 --> 00:51:29.430
thing. And uh it made me laugh out loud
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.270
because it was just the sweetest thing
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.510
he could have done for me which touched
00:51:33.520 --> 00:51:36.549
my heart deeply.
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.109
So my baba
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.470
really without him I am I'm going to say
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.710
nothing which is not true but without
00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:47.589
him I can't exist. Without him I can't.
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.710
It's impossible right now. So
00:51:50.720 --> 00:51:52.790
this lifeline through you guys, through
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.109
your stories, the truth that comes out
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.670
from everybody is a blessing to
00:51:57.680 --> 00:52:00.630
everybody because
00:52:00.640 --> 00:52:03.030
he speaks to us through everyone and
00:52:03.040 --> 00:52:05.030
everything
00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:07.430
whether we receive it that way or not.
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.030
That's what's happening. And uh there's
00:52:11.040 --> 00:52:13.750
no greater gifts. And we're so
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.750
fortunate. Oh God, we're so fortunate.
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.589
So,
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:19.270
all right. I think that's what I have to
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:19.670
say.
00:52:19.680 --> 00:52:21.270
>> Beautiful,
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:22.630
>> wonderful, Patty.
00:52:22.640 --> 00:52:25.270
>> Yeah. J Baba to all of you and love you
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:26.790
so much and so glad you're still
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.030
continuing. We're still continuing. He's
00:52:29.040 --> 00:52:30.790
continuing us, I guess.
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:31.190
>> Yeah.
00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:34.230
>> He's running it all all around.
00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:36.790
He's continuing the whole thing. Oh, God
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:38.630
help us. Jay,
00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:39.430
>> I like that.
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.430
>> That's Rich,
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.150
then you, Kendi, and then Tony.
00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:45.589
>> I have a little short story. This is
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.710
kind of a Tony Patterniti story. It's a
00:52:48.720 --> 00:52:52.390
rich story in Tony Patterniti style. But
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.829
so what happened was I I have had
00:52:55.839 --> 00:52:58.710
cataract surgery. So you have one in
00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:00.309
case it doesn't work, you know, both of
00:53:00.319 --> 00:53:01.829
them same time. So then I had another
00:53:01.839 --> 00:53:03.190
one. So I don't know if it was number
00:53:03.200 --> 00:53:06.069
one or two, but uh you I'm lying back
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.950
and of course you'll go under some very
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.430
interesting anesthesia.
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:13.270
really interesting because they can draw
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.670
you back up because you have to look
00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:17.910
through this new plastic lens to make
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.390
sure it's clear that you can see through
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.270
that eye. So I'm going through the
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.150
procedure and I'm out you know and then
00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:29.990
uh so evidently just before I come out
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.950
to look through this lens my experience
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.670
was I was looking up straight up and I
00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:39.589
saw Baba in a chair you know
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.829
meeting all and I see Bob in the chair
00:53:41.839 --> 00:53:44.470
and I guess I started talking now I
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.069
don't know if I was talking to those
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.230
around me I wasn't talking directly to
00:53:48.240 --> 00:53:51.030
Bob I don't think but so after this
00:53:51.040 --> 00:53:55.030
procedure was all over and uh the uh the
00:53:55.040 --> 00:53:57.750
doctor Dr. Carter, he's a he's a really
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.950
cool guy. Um he was telling me that
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.829
about Mayor Baba.
00:54:03.839 --> 00:54:05.829
So evidently I was telling them about
00:54:05.839 --> 00:54:08.390
Mayor Baba and I thought it was I was I
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.549
saw Baba right up there way up there,
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:14.230
you know, in his and but so ever since
00:54:14.240 --> 00:54:16.710
then it's like it's just kind of a joke
00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:18.630
but it's one of those things where yeah
00:54:18.640 --> 00:54:21.670
Baba is everywhere. you know, how do you
00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:24.870
know when and what are how? But anyway,
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.309
so my opthalmologist heard of Baba and
00:54:28.319 --> 00:54:30.150
I'm sure there was everybody around him
00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:31.349
heard it too. You know, it's like
00:54:31.359 --> 00:54:33.750
everybody was there. That's enough.
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:34.790
Okay, Baba.
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.349
>> Good.
00:54:37.359 --> 00:54:41.910
>> Yes, Tony.
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.109
>> Well, I I waited all that time to hear
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.829
where my story was in that, but I don't
00:54:47.839 --> 00:54:49.990
Never mind. That's okay.
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.990
Um so among different roles I mean I I
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.430
mentioned I think last week that when I
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.589
I I had thrown my um my aversion to Baba
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.990
work in the Doneyi one of seven things
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.870
my it's a whole story but when I got
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.230
back to New York um Gustoraph had quit
00:55:10.240 --> 00:55:13.190
as president of Baba House the uh first
00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.109
vice president quit the second vice
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:16.950
president quit and I was just hanging
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.349
out because Gus was a friend and we
00:55:19.359 --> 00:55:21.349
would talk anyway. I was third vice
00:55:21.359 --> 00:55:22.870
president. Suddenly I was the president
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.950
of Baba House.
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.589
So I on the board. So I stay I was in
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.910
that role for a year and during that
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.230
year the striking thing was my
00:55:32.240 --> 00:55:34.230
relationship with Baba was very
00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:37.349
different. It was Baba was my boss and
00:55:37.359 --> 00:55:39.270
he was telling me what he wanted and
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.349
what I needed to do. And I was like I
00:55:41.359 --> 00:55:44.390
felt this burden of responsibility. And
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.470
when I finally left after a year, I was
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:51.510
really happy to have my old baba back.
00:55:51.520 --> 00:55:56.470
But but the other thing is
00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.270
people mention father and you know
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:01.190
compassionate father Mayher Baba and all
00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:03.750
that. My father died when I was nine. He
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:07.670
had cancer for two years and then um my
00:56:07.680 --> 00:56:09.829
his brother took the whole part of the
00:56:09.839 --> 00:56:11.270
family away because my mother wouldn't
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.309
give him their my father's guitars.
00:56:14.319 --> 00:56:19.030
And and I I the the whole idea of father
00:56:19.040 --> 00:56:21.349
was something I could not grab. Oh, and
00:56:21.359 --> 00:56:22.710
they said you have to be the man of the
00:56:22.720 --> 00:56:25.829
house now at nine and take care of your
00:56:25.839 --> 00:56:29.990
mother and your little brother and so I
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.710
could not relate to Baba as father
00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:35.589
because I father was this weird nebulous
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.990
thing for me. I remember him before he
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.190
died. I wanted to be like him but and
00:56:41.200 --> 00:56:43.670
through a various things that Baba
00:56:43.680 --> 00:56:45.670
worked me through over the years two
00:56:45.680 --> 00:56:48.390
different occasions sometime it was this
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:53.990
year I guess um I really got it that Bob
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:55.750
and I had I felt oh and I remembered
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.390
being as a kid like feeling different I
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.789
didn't know this I feeling different
00:57:00.799 --> 00:57:02.549
from other kids everyone else had a
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:04.630
father and I didn't have a father and
00:57:04.640 --> 00:57:06.150
how am I going to make up for what I'm
00:57:06.160 --> 00:57:08.230
missing and all that anyway I went
00:57:08.240 --> 00:57:11.430
through all of that and and then I had
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.190
no problem saying, "Baba, you're my
00:57:13.200 --> 00:57:15.589
father and really getting it and meaning
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:17.589
it and knowing it was so." And Baba
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.349
says, "If you take me to be your real
00:57:19.359 --> 00:57:21.430
father, all your problems will dissolve
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.950
in the ocean of my love." And so, Baba,
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.430
it's been part of me, intrinsic in me.
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.670
Now, recently, I had this awareness that
00:57:29.680 --> 00:57:34.230
I have had all my life ADHD. And it has
00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:36.309
kept me from bringing all of the gifts
00:57:36.319 --> 00:57:39.109
Baba has given me out to the world
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.670
because that's what ADHD does. You write
00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:43.670
all this, you do all that, and then you
00:57:43.680 --> 00:57:45.349
don't finish it. You don't bring it out
00:57:45.359 --> 00:57:49.030
to the world. So I approached Baba last
00:57:49.040 --> 00:57:51.670
week saying, I need, like we did when I
00:57:51.680 --> 00:57:54.230
was president of Baba House, I need you
00:57:54.240 --> 00:57:56.630
to be my partner. I need you to go into
00:57:56.640 --> 00:57:59.030
partnership with me on this because I
00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:01.829
I'm not I it's impossible for me to step
00:58:01.839 --> 00:58:04.069
out of the way my mind works. It's been
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.549
50 years. I've tried everything. And of
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.230
course, you'd be the single senior
00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:10.870
partner, you know, but and and he
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:12.390
stepped in. And it's really it's
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:13.829
interesting the changes that are already
00:58:13.839 --> 00:58:17.030
happening. But listening to this,
00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:20.069
I made a note here for myself.
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.470
Yes, you are my partner, Baba, my senior
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.270
partner, but you are still my father in
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.230
that role. Baba, my father, is my senior
00:58:28.240 --> 00:58:31.670
partner. So, among the various roles Bob
00:58:31.680 --> 00:58:33.750
has held in my life, this is where it
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.030
where I'm at right now.
00:58:37.040 --> 00:58:38.710
>> Very good. Very good.
00:58:38.720 --> 00:58:40.150
>> Yeah.
00:58:40.160 --> 00:58:44.309
>> Peter,
00:58:44.319 --> 00:58:46.549
hi everybody.
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.950
Can this topic I'm really weary of
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.870
telling I want to tell it but I'm very
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.430
weary of it for reasons which will be
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.109
obvious later on. Can we extend the
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.870
topic until next week?
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.750
>> Yeah. Well, I mean Yeah. Go ahead. We're
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.230
Well, we're kind of basically
00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:08.069
at 11:00, so
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.030
we we're uh we're So, we just do this.
00:59:11.040 --> 00:59:12.390
>> Peter, do you mean you want to talk
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:14.069
about it next week? Is that what you
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:15.910
mean? Yeah. I think you guys will want
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:17.510
me to talk about it next week, too. So,
00:59:17.520 --> 00:59:19.270
>> yeah, you can bring anybody can bring
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:20.870
anything in next week. Sure.
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:21.910
>> Yeah.
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:22.870
>> Thank you. Thank you.
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.750
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good to see you.
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.910
>> Yeah. We're kind of at the end of our
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.910
hour, but yeah. Oh, Candy, she raised
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:30.710
her hand or maybe
00:59:30.720 --> 00:59:32.390
>> Oh, I'm sorry, Candy. I forgot about
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.829
you. Sorry, Candy.
00:59:35.839 --> 00:59:37.910
>> We
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.670
kick the bucket during the week.
00:59:41.680 --> 00:59:44.549
What?
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.230
If what if he doesn't make it through
00:59:46.240 --> 00:59:48.150
the week?
00:59:48.160 --> 00:59:51.910
>> Oh, well, he'll make it. I know he will.
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:53.670
>> Make it through the week for for not
00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:55.829
obvious reasons. It has to do with a
00:59:55.839 --> 01:00:01.030
little bit of Oh, I'm trying to be nice.
01:00:01.040 --> 01:00:03.430
It's my inner torturer that will cause
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:04.950
me to make it through the week until
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:06.390
next week.
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:07.270
>> Yeah, good.
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.109
>> The torturing aspect of Baba will make
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:10.470
it through to next week. Hopefully, I
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.069
can. Yeah.
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.270
>> Baba is your Baba is your torturer.
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:15.990
>> Oh god.
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:16.549
>> Yes.
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.789
>> Okay.
01:00:18.799 --> 01:00:20.710
>> The Grand Inquisitor.
01:00:20.720 --> 01:00:23.750
>> He's He's this executioner. Yeah.
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.430
>> That's not what I said, but what Jeff
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.589
just said.
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.750
>> Well, we got Candy though. Candy is the
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.789
last person. And then maybe if Goer has
01:00:32.799 --> 01:00:38.470
something that would be nice. Okay.
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.789
Go ahead, Candy. I was going to say that
01:00:40.799 --> 01:00:43.349
another way that I see Yeah. I was going
01:00:43.359 --> 01:00:46.390
to say another way that I see Baba Baba
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:51.829
to me is I see him and I address him
01:00:51.839 --> 01:00:56.069
sometimes as first cause
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.150
and that means
01:00:58.160 --> 01:01:01.109
that he can do anything.
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:05.510
And so that has to do with me finally
01:01:05.520 --> 01:01:10.230
understanding somewhat how to give it to
01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:12.710
Baba. As the Manderly always used to
01:01:12.720 --> 01:01:15.829
say, give it to Baba. How do you give it
01:01:15.839 --> 01:01:18.710
to Baba? Well, I I think I'm finally
01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:22.630
learning how to give it to Baba. And
01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:26.549
when I address Baba as first cause, I
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.069
give the problem to them. And I say,
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:32.390
Baba,
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.710
you are first cause. You alone can solve
01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:39.750
this problem. I cannot
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.390
do it.
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.109
And he does it actually.
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:45.510
>> Yeah.
01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:48.789
>> Yeah. He actually does it.
01:01:48.799 --> 01:01:49.990
drawing upon
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:51.910
>> miraculously.
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:52.789
>> Yeah.
01:01:52.799 --> 01:01:57.270
>> And amazingly and miraculously deputy.
01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:57.670
>> Yeah.
01:01:57.680 --> 01:02:00.950
>> So, so that was just another another
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.510
aspect of my ba.
01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:07.510
>> Yeah. Darwin had that aspect very very
01:02:07.520 --> 01:02:08.789
clearly. Yeah.
01:02:08.799 --> 01:02:10.950
>> Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I say to him
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.309
because he fixes things and I've seen it
01:02:14.319 --> 01:02:16.950
over and over again. He will solve a
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.230
problem in a way that you never thought
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:22.309
of.
01:02:22.319 --> 01:02:24.230
Like talk about thinking outside the
01:02:24.240 --> 01:02:27.750
box. I mean you know really it's like
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.230
you have racked your brain. You have
01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:31.430
gone there and you've gone there and
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.349
you've gone there.
01:02:33.359 --> 01:02:36.710
No. Then Baba you give it to Baba and he
01:02:36.720 --> 01:02:38.950
does it and he does it in a way that
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:42.549
you're like ah
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.069
>> I never thought of that.
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:45.510
>> Yeah.
01:02:45.520 --> 01:02:47.829
So that's just another
01:02:47.839 --> 01:02:49.910
>> another aspect
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:53.589
>> and just at the end here before go
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:58.470
what just to say I I feel that Baba
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:04.069
loves us so much you know that's I mean
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:06.950
adore loves and adores us no matter what
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.390
much more than
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.549
>> he he's not discriminating the way we
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.109
are
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.069
he's and that's a beautiful thing. I
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.630
mean, sometimes people feel like they're
01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:20.710
uh not pleasing Bob and everything like
01:03:20.720 --> 01:03:22.789
he just adores them.
01:03:22.799 --> 01:03:25.270
>> I mean, just that even someone looks his
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.710
way, you know, he's he is waiting
01:03:28.720 --> 01:03:30.549
patiently for people to look up from
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.630
their newspaper
01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:34.950
>> and if they do that means the world to
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:35.829
him.
01:03:35.839 --> 01:03:37.670
>> Anyway, go.
01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:38.710
>> Yes, dear.
01:03:38.720 --> 01:03:39.109
>> Yeah,
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.510
>> Jeff. Excuse me, Jeff. Excuse me. Go
01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:44.150
here. Jeeoff, we have Tom for a second
01:03:44.160 --> 01:03:45.990
and then Patty's there up there for a
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:46.470
second.
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:46.950
>> Okay.
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.190
>> Really fast. Can you guys close it out?
01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:51.109
>> Yeah. Yeah. Just just real quick and and
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.910
I hate to ask you this on a Zoom call
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:55.990
that might get published on the web, but
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.150
I don't have your email, Jeff. How how
01:03:58.160 --> 01:04:01.349
might I get that or are you willing to
01:04:01.359 --> 01:04:03.589
give that? Not here, but
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:09.349
>> yeah, it's it's boba's jeff7gmail.com.
01:04:09.359 --> 01:04:15.029
B A B A S J E FF7.
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.750
>> Say it again. Baba
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:24.549
>> Babas with no apostrophe jffgmail.com.
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.270
Yeah,
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:28.069
>> thank you.
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.150
>> Yes. You know, I was just going to say I
01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:32.069
had a lovely quote too that sums up
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.349
tonight, but just
01:04:35.359 --> 01:04:37.430
I don't want to override go here at all,
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.430
but it was it was appropriate for this
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:40.309
today.
01:04:40.319 --> 01:04:41.589
>> Give it to us.
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.190
>> Okay. Are you ready?
01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:44.309
>> Yeah.
01:04:44.319 --> 01:04:47.510
>> Live for him is the title. This is from
01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:49.430
uh Rick Chapman's book
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:53.430
>> by now. but with talking to him, walking
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:58.150
with him, listening to him, focusing on
01:04:58.160 --> 01:05:01.510
and praising him and generally filling
01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:04.069
your life with him, you come to the
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.870
realization that there is nothing else
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:11.910
to live for besides him. Whatever your
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.630
sense of purpose was in your life, when
01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:17.829
the beloved enters your heart, he brings
01:05:17.839 --> 01:05:21.430
with him a new life, a new purpose for
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.750
you. This is the personal and internal
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.390
revolution for which the avatar
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.710
parentally comes. In short,
01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:36.630
give it all up. As Baba has said, in
01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:41.670
love, give up. in work give in. And this
01:05:41.680 --> 01:05:45.510
is love. Giving up your own life to be
01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:48.950
his and his alone forever.
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.270
Quote, "He who gives me all for me finds
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:57.589
his all in me ever after." Mayor,
01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.270
>> beautiful. Keep that one on hand.
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:00.870
>> Daddy, what book is that?
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.150
>> This is uh Rick Chapman's book.
01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:06.950
>> Which one? Oh. Oh, I love that. Yeah.
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:08.789
following Baba. Yeah. And you know,
01:06:08.799 --> 01:06:11.190
ironically, I just opened to it. Uh
01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:12.789
earlier, I just slipped my finger in a
01:06:12.799 --> 01:06:14.390
page and that's what was there. So, I
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:15.349
thought I would share it.
01:06:15.359 --> 01:06:15.990
>> I love that.
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.390
>> Yeah. Keep that on hand. We need to hear
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:19.829
that from time to time.
01:06:19.839 --> 01:06:21.349
>> Yeah. I think it's really good. I think
01:06:21.359 --> 01:06:23.430
it's a really good one, too.
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:24.230
>> Okay.
01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:25.109
>> All right. Jaba.
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:26.950
>> All right. Go a hair.
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.270
>> Well, J Baba, everyone, and I've so
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.349
enjoyed hearing everyone's sharing
01:06:31.359 --> 01:06:33.510
tonight. It's been so beautiful and so
01:06:33.520 --> 01:06:37.029
touching, and I agree with all of it. Um
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.029
especially especially what Helen said,
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:41.190
the boyfriend was the best I think.
01:06:41.200 --> 01:06:42.789
>> Yes. Yes.
01:06:42.799 --> 01:06:44.870
>> Love that.
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:48.470
>> But anyway, um so for tonight, you know,
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.589
I I in in our previous chats, I've
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:54.309
always tried to tailor the quote to fit
01:06:54.319 --> 01:06:57.109
the topic that we've discuss or we go
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:00.710
through that evening. But as we had no
01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:03.029
specific topic today, I was like I was
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.109
like, what do I come up with? And so I
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.349
went through a zillion quotes thinking
01:07:07.359 --> 01:07:09.750
this one or that one or which one. And
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:12.549
then Baba said, "Keep it simple. Just go
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:14.950
with this one." And this is one of my fa
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:16.710
absolute favorites. I've shared it
01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:19.029
before and I know you've all heard it,
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.190
but he said to keep it simple. So that's
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what I'm doing. So Baba says, "I want
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you to make me yours as you are
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as you are eternally already mine.
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I want you to make me yours as you are
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eternally already mine. J Baba
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>> J Baba. Let's have a few moments of
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silence.
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J Baba,
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thank you all for
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>> being so open and
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>> and sharing and
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>> Yeah, this is this was fun for me, huh?
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Yeah,
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>> it was an extra sweet silence today.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Wow.
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>> Yeah. I just got that bittersweet,
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melty,
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>> beautiful feeling.
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>> Well, we'll show up next week and see
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which way the wind blows.
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>> Beautiful. you know, and if uh if
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anybody has like say a a theme or
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something that comes, sometimes it might
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just be a thing that it resonates, gets
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something going,
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you know, but thank you. It's really
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great to hear.
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>> Beautiful.
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>> I think we should call this the unjust
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meeting.
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Thanks everybody. Thanks, Jab.
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>> Have a good week.
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>> Thank you, Jeff.
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>> Oh, hey. Yeah. Wait.
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>> You forgotten all about me.
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>> Oh, you're welcome.
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>> See, you're
01:09:49.679 --> 01:09:50.950
saying zoom user.
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>> See your your your uh box now always
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said just zoom user. So, we don't know
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who Zoom is
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.229
>> because I don't know how to do it.
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>> Oh, well, ask Pam. She's up there a
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couple She's in the next row up.
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>> She taught me thousand of time.
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>> So, I put it there. When I want to watch
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it, it's gone.
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>> Yeah.
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>> There you are.
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>> Oh, wow. There it is.
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>> Okay.
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>> Wow. Avatar
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Aar.
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>> Thank you, Jeff.
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>> That's That's so beautiful. I don't
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know. There's some
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>> Yep. All right. See you guys.
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>> Night everyone.
01:10:46.719 --> 01:10:49.910
>> Thank you. Thank you everyone.
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Thank you.