Late Night Chat with Jeff: Stuart Baker, July 8, 2024, live on Baba Zoom

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dear folks of Baba tonight we have as
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our guest Stuart Baker who was part of
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the Boston Baba group that formed in the
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early
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1970s prior to that though at the age of
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15 he experienced a profound discontent
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and what welled up inside him was an
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overwhelming desire for the deepest
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truth and
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happiness he describes how he quote
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silently made that desire known to the
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universe unquote
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at the time he knew nothing about God
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what followed unexpectedly was a
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spiritual awakening that began a gradual
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clearing away of his imperfections and
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impurities which revealed to him a whole
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new dimension of
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himself but after about a year to his
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horror and
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grief this same this Divine experience
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was suddenly and gradually withdrawn
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with no
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explanation he was left utterly empty
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and
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broken in 1970 May Baba entered his life
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and let Stuart know that he was the one
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and was was one and the same as the
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nameless formless God that he had
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experienced several years
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before he put quote one drop of his love
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unquote in Stuart's heart and conveyed
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to him that quote it was his turn to
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work his way back to to me and wished
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him good
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luck the last 54 years have been that
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Journey steuart will be happy to answer
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any questions as he shares his story and
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at the end he will lead us in a brief
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heart centered meditation on Baba that
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he has led Baba lovers that he has led
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Baba lovers on over the last several
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years this evening will be a very
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meaningful glimpse into steward interior
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life which began with a profound
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Awakening followed by years of inner
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work which has led him to where he is
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today and it ends with a quote from
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roomie if the door of your soul were to
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open for an instant you would see that
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the heart of every existent thing is
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your intimate friend in his love
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Jeff
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okay so I I first met Stu in 1971 on his
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first trip to the
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center and there used to be like a a
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backboard in a basketball hoop on one of
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the trees nailed to the Tree near the uh
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night Watchman cabin and near the the uh
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Lagoon cabin and we got into a rough and
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tumble two on two basketball game and
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apparently we were so much into this
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bubble that we lost complet
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complete uh any s what was going on and
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and the next day uh when we went there
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Elizabeth Patterson had taken down the
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basketball hoop and the and the
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backboard so we must have been making
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too much noise for the people in the
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lagoon cabin nearby who were uh
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meditating so that was we we kind of got
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we violated things right to the very
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beginning but we've been good friends
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all away from 71 to the present and I I
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I didn't mention in the the email and I
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should have that uh Stu worked with you
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know down in the black community here in
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Myrtle Beach in the 70s and he uh and
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this was part of a project that
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Elizabeth Patterson was involved in to
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helping this community and uh I think I
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think Stu you probably helped to uh
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build that clinic down there the medical
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clinic and
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am I right there the the clinic and also
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Mary lighter's Neighborhood House the
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Child Development Center yeah beautiful
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and then in more recent years uh he's
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been working as one of the main
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Carpenters on the center so those new
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railings or you know walkways
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Renovations the cabins and the the you
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know redoing the play structures out on
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the playground uh Stu has been silently
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do doing that kind of seamlessly so
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these things can you can enjoy them
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without necessarily knowing how it all
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was done but he's one of the main people
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in there who does that but anyway so
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steu uh uh go ahead you take it from
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there and and like I say he's open to
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any questions along the way don't
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hesitate and uh and it's is this this is
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a story that many of us have had to deal
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with in uh over the years with Baba so
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go ahead stu okay well thanks Jeff and
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and his sweetheart his sweetheart is uh
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where is she Dena there she is up uh
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Dena up in the upper right corner of my
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screen she's up there yeah okay yeah I I
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haven't seen her yet okay she's there
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I'll I'll take your word for
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[Laughter]
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it uh well thanks Jeff my good friend
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and and um actually I'd prefer if we
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could hold questions until the end of uh
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my my little talk here and then uh maybe
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we can have some questions and answers
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and then have the meditation at the end
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so i' i' prefer to do that Jeff okay
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yeah and I just I should mention that
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this
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meditation uh Stu does every uh every
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second Tuesday of the month and W
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Wednesday I mean what am I saying every
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yeah yeah second Wednesday and it's well
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worth uh the focus is goes very much on
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Baba and someone that you want to send
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this love to so it's beautifully done
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and I'll just make note it would be this
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Wednesday but it's July 10th so it's
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being put off to the following week okay
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okay
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yeah okay well thank you um so I hope
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you enjoy this it's been an interesting
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life with Baba I will say
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that um so my
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mother was really the most difficult
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person in my life and from a very early
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age very
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dedicated mother wife Homemaker but um I
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just found her to be really intrusive
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into my
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being and I knew that as a very young
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child as a toddler
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and remember one day I was 5 years old
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and she said um I want to call Robert's
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mother this boy's mother and uh see if
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you can go play with him and I said I I
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don't want to do that and she said no I
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I want you to do that and I said no I
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don't want to and she went ahead and she
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did it and and I ended up sitting with
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this boy and I had the thought am I just
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an extension of my mother is that me you
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know just do do what she wants and it
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was very Barren feeling it was awful you
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know but that that was 5 years
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old and anyway you know life life went
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on and
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then um one
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day I was 15 and she and I were talking
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about
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life and she said to
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me life is hard and
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unfair the best we can hope for is to
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cope and we can know nothing about
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God and I said God that is so Bleak I
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said I I don't buy it sorry and she said
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you're so naive I'm just trying to save
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you the trouble of finding out that I'm
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right and I said to her if you're right
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something's really
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wrong and in my head at the time I
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thought like maybe the Marx Brothers are
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running the universe you know grouo
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Harpo and
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Chico and it might have been that night
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might have been a night or two
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later but as I went to bed I was laying
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on my
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back and suddenly suddenly I didn't know
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where this came from and what came up
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you know and Jeff alluded to it in the
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right
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out I
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said like almost beside myself there are
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three things that I want I want truth
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with a capital T I want to know the
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truth of the
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Universe I want happiness with a capital
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H I want profound
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happiness and I want to feel really good
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about
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myself and I just kind of launched it
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upward
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and I remember I I quickly got this deep
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breath it's the deepest breath I'd had
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in quite a while and oh little little
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sense of a calm a little little slight
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bit of an answer and I I said to myself
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well maybe maybe there's something out
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there
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and I came back to that place inwardly
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the next night and kind of waiting you
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know is anything going to happen nothing
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happened it came back the next night and
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nothing happened and finally I said to
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myself well maybe I've got to do
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something uh try to knock on the door to
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whatever this might be out there what
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what could I
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do and what came to me was
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[Music]
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to pay attention to people who I admired
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that that's what came up in
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me and uh and why did I admire them so I
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started doing that you know I was this
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15-year-old
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kid and uh um I went to school and I had
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a summer job I had
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friends
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and the things I was noticing that I was
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drawn to in people what I admired it was
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strength of character
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integrity confidence
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humor
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cheerfulness helpfulness and kindness I
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I didn't admire people like who made
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jokes at the expense of others I could
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feel the pain of
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that and doing this little meditative
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process really started to take me out of
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the self I was I was used
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to and started to expand
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me and as as this happened every night
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before I went to sleep I'd lay on my
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back had my eyes closed and I started to
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become aware of this light and it was
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very soft at first first and a presence
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that came with
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it and I returned to this every night
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and Bit by Bit by Bit that light got a
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little stronger the presence got a
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little stronger a little
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clearer and I felt more and more
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connected with the people who I kind of
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meditated
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on and um I was starting to kind of shed
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some of the cloak of who I'd been used
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to in in
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myself
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and anyway after I'd say a few months of
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this and it just kept growing it it
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wasn't like one experience that was
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static that this expanded every single
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day and after a few months finally this
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question came to me and I said oh my God
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if I ask this it's going to change
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everything forever
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but I had to ask it and the question was
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to ask the presence are you
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God so I
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did and immediately there was this
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answer I am none
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other and I I just got knocked backwards
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into my bed and I just lay there silent
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for a moment and then I said why me I'm
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this 15-year-old kid you know what what
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do I know
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why am I having this with
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you and he said don't ask it's meant to
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be I said what do I do and he said you
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just pay attention to me I know you far
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better than you know yourself I know
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everything you
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need I I know everything as it should be
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just pay attention to me and I said
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that's it really and I said you know
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I've made all these
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efforts and he said no this is this has
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been
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me and I
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finally
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agreed it it took a little bit but I
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finally said okay it's you I'm I I I
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hardly believe this but I'm actually
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talking to
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God who's made himself available to me
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and
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uh anyway
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when he said just pay attention to me it
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it was
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literal and it the closeness of him
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became so great and so immediate I
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didn't even want my own thoughts because
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they got in the way of his presence you
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know just a 10-second thought in my head
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5-second thought got in the way of being
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in his light you know and that that's
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how present he was
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and as this whole experience went
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on um every
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night after a while he'd kind of give me
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an urging to uh reach toward others more
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and step out of myself step out of my
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comfort zone like if I saw somebody
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seemed upset maybe go over ask is
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there's something wrong anything I can
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do and I I'd start to draw people out in
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that way and I started to
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uh just be supportive to people just say
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nice nice
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things and they were well received and I
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I worked on developing more humor I I I
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worked at uh you know in a way kind of
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being a bit of a Teenage
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comedian uh but always always not at the
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expense of somebody else you know I I
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learned that just
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uh Let It Be harmless you know Do Do no
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harm and as I was able to focus on
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others and
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study feel the characteristics that I
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admired eventually I was able actually
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to step right inside their heart centers
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and I knew oh my God this is sacred
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sacred ground and
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I I I asked God I said is this okay
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should I even be here and the answer
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came back as long as you're
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reverent it's okay
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but if if ever there's a moment that
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you're not reverent then
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no um but shortly
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after you know I became able to do that
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I I felt
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like um I want to be really careful with
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this but you know at the same
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time I was becoming the best version of
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myself I'd ever been you know the most
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confident
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happy
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um Mo
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most out
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outgoing you know within within
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boundaries and um
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then one night with my nightly session
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with God suddenly he said to me I am
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nameless God and I saw inwardly in these
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big block letters like this
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Marquee nameless God and I just said
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okay
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yes
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and anyway this this just kept kept
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going on
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um I
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I went to the high school boy State I
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think as a junior it's a gathering of
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like four or five students from high
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schools around the
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state and had a wonderful time being
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there had a summer
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job um and all the while God was my best
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friend
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and he kept teaching me more and more
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inwardly at the same time he kept
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drawing up in
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me
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imperfections and it was my
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ego uh
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so um something I was upset about
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something something I uh I was angry
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about
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something hurtful
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maybe um something I was self-conscious
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about but just just my ego and all these
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forms and one by one by one he'd bring
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these things right before me and I had
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to face them the best I could and as I
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did when I wrestled enough honestly then
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he would just take it
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away and lighten me lighten me and this
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happened every day sometimes more than
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once a day and sometimes there were
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these olders I'd see them coming and
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after a while I I'd get a feeling for
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what it was but it hadn't come
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into into the zone of contact yet inside
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me and at first I was like oh God I
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don't I don't really want to deal with
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these things but the fact is every time
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I
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did this nameless God opened a bigger
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world and a bigger self inside
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me my um I I didn't wear glasses or
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anything but my eyesight literally
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became crisper and crisper the the world
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became sharpened sharpen in front of my
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eyes and sensitively I I
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became more and more connected to
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everything and to the point
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that it really seemed that God had
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revealed himself to me in everyone and
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everything everything around me
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me
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and finally this one
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night had this experience with them
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where there's that famous painting of uh
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God reaching down from the heavens you
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know with his finger
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and uh basically this Chasm appeared
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between God and me and there was no
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bottom to the chasm and he put out his
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hands and he said
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leap and I said are you kidding look
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there there's no bottom down there and
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he said to me have I ever let you
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down and I said
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no and he said then leap and I gathered
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myself up and I actually had
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to with all
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the strength I I could inside just kind
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of throw myself at at him across the
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chasm and he caught me beaming at me and
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he said now we're really going to fly
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you know he was proud of me he was
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happy
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and again life just kept opening he
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taught me more and more
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um I
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I pretty much I I get like instructions
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from him at night to apply the next day
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and it was they all had to do with being
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kind toward others and applying what he
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had taught me the night
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before uh later in doing research for
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the book mayor Baba's gift of intuition
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I read where Baba said if you don't
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apply the intuitions given to you that
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they'll dry
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up and I felt like at that time you know
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by then I think I turned 16 years
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old um I was having the experience with
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with God of him teaching me these things
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to be brought into everyday
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life and at some point well well into
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this
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experience um I I said to God I know
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this is I I know I haven't just earned
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this this lifetime I know that and even
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though I knew nothing about
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reincarnation but I said what do I do
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with this you know I know it isn't just
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for me and he said don't ask you'll find
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out
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okay
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so again and again uh had to wrestle
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with the imperfections in me and finally
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I almost felt clear almost
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clear but I realized there was still
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this one huge Boulder inside me
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between me and God and it was
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that I I didn't yet experience him fully
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inside
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me and finally this one
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day um my awareness went from here down
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to the uh I think would be called the
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the dell the uh the the Deep heart under
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the physical heart we're used
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to and
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these gorgeous arched and curved thick
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golden doors appeared in this
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place and they opened
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gradually and there was this
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incredible light
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inside this alive light and there was an
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invitation from God from nameless God
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come inside to me
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and I stepped inside there and I could
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feel The Wonder of this infinite light
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.029
and infinite
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.029
love and he said to me this is who I am
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:13.950
and this is who you
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are this is who everybody is they just
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tell themselves they're something
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different and in that moment I felt
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fulfilled utterly fulfilled and I had
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the thought I I could die
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and I'm I'm I am utterly satisfied with
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this life I was
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clear but I I didn't I didn't
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die and then I had the quick thought in
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my head oh God what if this ends but I
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.630
knew don't even bring that up to
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God and then after a while this whole
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thing went on for at least a year and
00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:56.149
gradually to my
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horror um it it did start to end and no
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explanation God had taught me don't ask
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.190
me for anything and don't ask me about
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anything so I couldn't ask him you know
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.470
in obedience to him what was going on
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did I do
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something and I I watched myself
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basically kind of fall apart over the
00:25:18.600 --> 00:25:20.430
period of the next several
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.909
years and uh it
00:25:23.919 --> 00:25:31.470
was it was enormously painful and um
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.510
I I actually felt like even though I
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knew nothing about reincarnation I felt
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like I had gone backwards into a
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previous life in terms
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of um falling apart and the the
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.909
suffering of my own ego self it was just
00:25:49.919 --> 00:25:53.029
so uncomfortable it it was
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.990
awful um so that you know there were
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.029
tremendous struggles during that time
00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:58.909
and
00:25:58.919 --> 00:26:00.750
you know I became
00:26:00.760 --> 00:26:03.269
suicidal uh but with Baba's
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.630
Grace I got through
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:11.350
that
00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:15.590
and I decided finally um I've got to do
00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:18.149
something I got to make some kind of
00:26:18.159 --> 00:26:21.350
effort and I said I know
00:26:21.360 --> 00:26:24.710
it's it's kind of kind of dumb but uh
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.430
I'll train myself to go out for the
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.430
football team in college so I focused on
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.510
that for
00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:34.590
months and
00:26:34.600 --> 00:26:38.029
then uh Christmas time 1970 a friend of
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mine called up and this was a devoted
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.190
hedonist always looking for the next
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.269
good time and he said to me in this
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:49.789
different kind of voice have you heard
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:50.909
of
00:26:50.919 --> 00:26:54.029
Baba and I said I don't think so oh you
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.789
mean that Baba ramas guy and he said no
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:01.389
this is mayor Baba this is
00:27:01.399 --> 00:27:04.750
different and I said no and he said well
00:27:04.760 --> 00:27:07.350
our friend Steve wants to tell us about
00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:10.430
him tonight so we got
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.549
together and this guy named Steve
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.110
Prescott told us what had learned in the
00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:17.710
University of Miami and some of it was a
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.350
little cockeyed but it was a first
00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:22.870
introduction in introduction to
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.750
Baba while Steve was
00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:28.470
talking uh and and I was a there was an
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.310
Angry Young Man at that point you know
00:27:30.320 --> 00:27:33.149
God was inaccessible to
00:27:33.159 --> 00:27:35.350
me but
00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:38.549
um suddenly I realized I was smiling
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.310
uncontrollably in spite of
00:27:41.320 --> 00:27:45.310
myself and after a couple of moments
00:27:45.320 --> 00:27:49.470
again my awareness went back to the same
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:54.669
deep heart center the same golden doors
00:27:54.679 --> 00:27:56.669
appeared that had been there several
00:27:56.679 --> 00:27:59.470
years before they opened
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:03.470
up and mayor Baba was standing inside
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.549
alive at maybe 40 45 years old wearing a
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:08.310
white
00:28:08.320 --> 00:28:12.149
sadra and he beckoned me come
00:28:12.159 --> 00:28:18.269
in and I stepped in I was before him and
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.950
he said to me do you remember nameless
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.549
God and I I got knocked backwards cuz i'
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.470
never told anybody
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.269
never and he said and I said yeah why I
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.990
was kind of hesitant he said that was
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.509
me and there was no question in that
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:39.110
moment there's never been a question who
00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:41.389
mayor Baba is because nobody else could
00:28:41.399 --> 00:28:44.549
have asked me that and said
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.789
that and I said what do I do
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.669
now and he said now it's your turn to
00:28:50.679 --> 00:28:52.789
work your way back to
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.070
me and I said well how do I do that and
00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:59.750
he went good luck and he turned around
00:28:59.760 --> 00:29:02.350
inside me and he he walked
00:29:02.360 --> 00:29:05.549
away and I said are you kidding me good
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.470
luck you
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.470
serious but he put He put a little drop
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.310
of love into my heart it was just enough
00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:17.549
to get me making effort again which I
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.350
did uh in various
00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:23.509
ways
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.230
and you know but I said to him you son
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.190
of a gun my God you know you you don't
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.590
make it
00:29:30.600 --> 00:29:34.230
easy uh but you know the experience
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.549
experiences of 15 16 years old did not
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:39.509
come
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:43.149
back and in fact except for rare
00:29:43.159 --> 00:29:45.789
glimpses have never since come back in
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.509
the all the years since except for rear
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.070
glimpses and I'll I'll mention
00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:55.630
that
00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.269
um so then finally um and I I left
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.430
college for the second time and I I
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.269
called Kitty
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:10.070
Davey and uh oh yeah I ended up I ended
00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:12.389
up going to the center for the first
00:30:12.399 --> 00:30:15.310
time the summer of 71 like Jeff
00:30:15.320 --> 00:30:17.389
mentioned we we
00:30:17.399 --> 00:30:20.750
met um and
00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:24.509
then um I called Kitty Davey eventually
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:29.070
a couple years later about Poss possibly
00:30:29.080 --> 00:30:31.669
moving down to Myrtle Beach and she said
00:30:31.679 --> 00:30:35.950
we'll finish college so I I did that
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.070
I'll also say that I think first time on
00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:41.430
the center I was walking by the shop in
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.710
the center which is uh kind of the
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.870
central place the office place of all
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.350
construction and maintenance on the
00:30:50.360 --> 00:30:53.669
center and I looked in I remember
00:30:53.679 --> 00:30:56.389
thinking wouldn't it be incredible to do
00:30:56.399 --> 00:31:00.029
carpentry here and I wasn't a carpenter
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.070
you I was working on a degree in
00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:04.029
Psychology in
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.549
college um but I had that
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.430
thought so anyway um I finished
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.990
college and Baba definitely gave me an
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.070
inner welcome before I actually moved
00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:18.070
down
00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:22.509
here um but I I did move down
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.149
1974 and I I didn't just want to be near
00:31:25.159 --> 00:31:28.110
the center and programs and reading
00:31:28.120 --> 00:31:29.430
books and going to
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.029
meetings I really wanted to know what's
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.629
it really like to live with and for
00:31:35.639 --> 00:31:38.669
mayor Baba and I figured I really wanted
00:31:38.679 --> 00:31:39.950
to get to
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:44.310
know and from learn from Kitty Davey and
00:31:44.320 --> 00:31:48.110
Elizabeth Patterson and eventually Jane
00:31:48.120 --> 00:31:50.509
Haynes and people who live there what
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.629
what's it really like so Jeff mentioned
00:31:53.639 --> 00:31:56.269
that I I worked total of about a year
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.430
and a half in the black community
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.590
and uh that that all came out of that
00:32:02.600 --> 00:32:03.909
that drive in
00:32:03.919 --> 00:32:06.789
me uh you know and that was work that
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.830
was blessed by Baba work that Elizabeth
00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:12.190
and Jane were very involved with and
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.990
kitty was very supportive of
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.629
lifechanging work utterly life
00:32:18.639 --> 00:32:23.789
changing um many stories about that
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.389
and eventually um some of us are working
00:32:27.399 --> 00:32:28.830
on
00:32:28.840 --> 00:32:31.830
trying to put a book together about the
00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:35.389
years of uh working with that nonprofit
00:32:35.399 --> 00:32:39.310
agency called Community volunteer
00:32:39.320 --> 00:32:42.629
services but again life just
00:32:42.639 --> 00:32:45.909
lifechanging experience
00:32:45.919 --> 00:32:47.509
um
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.990
finding really the best in
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.590
humanity also some of the worst you know
00:32:53.600 --> 00:32:56.269
experiencing some
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.029
racism uh but definitely touching the
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.950
heart touching the
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.070
heart and so I I ended up becoming the
00:33:06.080 --> 00:33:09.029
project coordinator for two uh their
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.029
renovation projects on donated buildings
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.549
that were moved to these two different
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.909
sites and um just met some of the most
00:33:20.919 --> 00:33:24.269
remarkable black people
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.430
there and um
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.669
really set set the tone I think for the
00:33:30.679 --> 00:33:33.750
rest of my life you know since since
00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:38.310
then I spent uh about two and a half
00:33:38.320 --> 00:33:41.190
years as an addictions counselor after
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:44.590
that uh stayed certified addictions
00:33:44.600 --> 00:33:48.470
counselor and quite remarkable
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:52.310
work um but I I wasn't I wasn't totally
00:33:52.320 --> 00:33:55.870
drawn about pursuing that and I I said
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:57.950
to Bob I ended up living here almost
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.070
years and I had said to him you're going
00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:02.870
to have to kick me out of here if you
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.310
want me to leave and eventually I felt
00:34:05.320 --> 00:34:08.950
like he did and uh things just folded up
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.790
they closed up for me but uh by then I
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.990
was married had a uh a toddler at that
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.629
point and um moved back to Massachusetts
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.669
to look at graduate
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.629
schools
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:29.669
and um wasn't very promising at all and
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.629
then I got I was called by a friend he
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:33.869
said I've got some I've got too much
00:34:33.879 --> 00:34:36.430
carpentry and painting work can you help
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.149
me and I said yeah sure love to so
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.270
started doing that more work came out of
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.669
out of that out of that I ended up going
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.230
to Cape Cod
00:34:47.240 --> 00:34:50.750
Massachusetts for work people saw our
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.310
work which led to more work I was able
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.710
to get John McBride who'd become my
00:34:57.720 --> 00:35:00.390
friend at Myrtle Beach to join me there
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.470
for several years and he's a brother of
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.750
Lee McBride who runs all the
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.550
construction and maintenance on the
00:35:09.560 --> 00:35:14.349
center and I I always thought I'd
00:35:14.359 --> 00:35:17.829
getting out of construction it was
00:35:17.839 --> 00:35:21.829
temporary um but it it kept going on you
00:35:21.839 --> 00:35:24.390
know and I had a family to
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:25.910
support
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.430
um but along the way way I really didn't
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.310
like
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.630
conflict so in my construction I really
00:35:33.640 --> 00:35:35.550
worked
00:35:35.560 --> 00:35:39.349
at being as personable as I
00:35:39.359 --> 00:35:43.430
could uh treating people as well as I
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.910
could and that was customers
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.430
subcontractors people working in supply
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.470
houses
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.550
everybody uh being as honest and fair as
00:35:53.560 --> 00:35:58.550
I could be and forthright being cheerful
00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:00.589
and eventually I really developed a
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.670
reputation with all of this and
00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:06.710
uh eventually some people said to me you
00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:09.670
should write a book about this it's so
00:36:09.680 --> 00:36:13.510
unusual it's not what people expect in
00:36:13.520 --> 00:36:16.829
construction and eventually I started
00:36:16.839 --> 00:36:19.510
taking training about working with
00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:22.990
people I I took coaching training
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.630
organizational training I became a
00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:27.589
mediator and I took a lot of advanced
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.150
training with it and I really thought
00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:33.309
okay I'm developing a new career here
00:36:33.319 --> 00:36:35.230
you know that that's what's happening I
00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:38.870
was convinced of that and one of the
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.630
early trainings I was at a therapist
00:36:41.640 --> 00:36:45.190
from Colorado said to me you're going to
00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.150
change the world with what you're
00:36:47.160 --> 00:36:49.750
working at just do it before somebody
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.390
else does and I had a lot of
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.109
encouragement you know then I was told
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.710
you really have to write a book you know
00:36:56.720 --> 00:36:58.470
if you really want credibility so I
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.750
wrote a book and that that took four
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.910
years to do that and get it
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.230
published and kept making efforts and I
00:37:07.240 --> 00:37:09.870
was able to stop working for a while but
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:11.829
was never able to actually get a
00:37:11.839 --> 00:37:13.589
business off the
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.230
ground and then had to go back to work
00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:17.510
and
00:37:17.520 --> 00:37:21.750
um and there there was a lot of a lot of
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.309
struggle
00:37:23.319 --> 00:37:25.630
um along the
00:37:25.640 --> 00:37:28.109
way I think 20
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:33.710
3 I had a perfect storm of illnesses I I
00:37:33.720 --> 00:37:37.349
brought a lime tick with me on a trip to
00:37:37.359 --> 00:37:40.309
India and it was discovered in Paris and
00:37:40.319 --> 00:37:43.270
a doctor there took it out put alcohol
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.309
on me said you'll be okay well I wasn't
00:37:46.319 --> 00:37:48.069
he didn't know about Lyme disease and I
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:49.150
didn't
00:37:49.160 --> 00:37:52.990
either and I went to India to work with
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.109
Ted
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.069
Judson and after a month of work
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.270
uh I got horribly ill and it was a
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.230
combination of the Lyme
00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:06.030
disease chemical poisoning from some
00:38:06.040 --> 00:38:09.510
work I was doing and uh intestinal
00:38:09.520 --> 00:38:12.589
parasites all at the same time and it
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.309
beat the living heck out of
00:38:15.319 --> 00:38:18.069
me um nobody could figure out what was
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:19.430
going
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.950
on and uh it also
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:30.390
started uh a chain of health issues
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.589
um but in in the midst of it all it was
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.510
uh holding on to babba and you know just
00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:40.710
feeling that he was breaking me
00:38:40.720 --> 00:38:42.910
down you know
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.270
one in in very creative ways you know
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.790
one one way after
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.069
another
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.670
and when when the illnesses first hit
00:38:54.680 --> 00:38:58.430
very hard in in India my
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.990
mind actually basically shut down on me
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.829
it basically stopped functioning I
00:39:03.839 --> 00:39:05.270
couldn't follow a
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.710
conversation I couldn't read I saw
00:39:07.720 --> 00:39:10.990
letters dancing around numbers dancing
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:11.990
before
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.670
me uh my body temperature plummeted my
00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:18.790
blood sugar went up blood pressure went
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:23.470
up um anyway thing things were thrown
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.710
into great disarray
00:39:27.720 --> 00:39:31.270
and I really had to rely on
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.870
Baba
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:39.309
and and that that definitely holds
00:39:39.319 --> 00:39:42.470
true
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.550
So eventually I I was able to get back
00:39:46.560 --> 00:39:47.390
to
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:51.069
work and uh gradually kind of rebuild my
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:51.910
my
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.990
brain what what there is of it now but
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.829
I'll I'll say that out of out of of that
00:39:57.839 --> 00:40:00.630
experience it it's interesting I feel
00:40:00.640 --> 00:40:02.190
like some different
00:40:02.200 --> 00:40:04.470
sensibilities and sensitivities have
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.950
been have been opened in me now Jeff
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.550
mentioned the uh the heart- centered
00:40:09.560 --> 00:40:12.190
meditations and that's something that
00:40:12.200 --> 00:40:14.150
has come into my
00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:18.829
life uh since the whole illness
00:40:18.839 --> 00:40:22.470
experience and the the breaking
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.510
down
00:40:24.520 --> 00:40:26.910
and I I don't know that that would have
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.710
happened you know without without the
00:40:29.720 --> 00:40:32.470
breaking down having happened I I tend
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:39.390
to think
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.349
not
00:40:41.359 --> 00:40:45.270
so um I met a wonderful woman I event I
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.710
got divorced after 30 years of
00:40:48.720 --> 00:40:52.150
marriage and
00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:54.190
uh
00:40:54.200 --> 00:40:55.910
eventually
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.190
um I moved mov to Virginia Daniel Stone
00:40:59.200 --> 00:41:01.390
a lot of you know he asked me if I'd
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.829
like to look at doing some work at his
00:41:03.839 --> 00:41:07.430
townhouse and I ended up doing that and
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.670
he finally said why don't you just stay
00:41:09.680 --> 00:41:12.150
here you know you're working on
00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:14.589
developing this new career and you're
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.309
closer to Washington there's more going
00:41:16.319 --> 00:41:18.430
on there so I I
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.470
stayed and uh had a lot of work there
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.710
and while I was there I met a wonderful
00:41:23.720 --> 00:41:27.790
woman who uh is in the Next Room
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:29.670
and
00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:34.790
um uh she's a wonderful spiritual
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.510
soul and uh that was a very un
00:41:38.520 --> 00:41:41.750
unexpected unexpected bonus of being
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:46.230
there um but 10 years ago I I moved back
00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:50.470
here and again still thinking uh okay
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.910
I'll do some I'll do carpentry but I
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.510
still have this other Career
00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:57.790
Development and uh
00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:58.790
through
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.270
Linkedin I ended up connecting with a
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.710
woman who was forming this group of
00:42:03.720 --> 00:42:07.430
likeminded and like-hearted
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.630
consultants and we did some work
00:42:09.640 --> 00:42:13.270
together and um I kept being promising
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.910
things number of promising things but
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.430
nothing ever really really got off the
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.829
ground and I I finally just let it go
00:42:22.839 --> 00:42:25.549
after 20 years of effort with it and I
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.390
finally said Baba seems to me like
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.870
uh what you're really giving me what
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.150
you're really focusing on giving me is
00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:37.109
work on the center with you you know
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.309
with doing carpentry on on your Center
00:42:40.319 --> 00:42:44.470
and what what a gift that is so that
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.870
that's what I focus on these days along
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.710
with some things like uh you know the
00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:54.829
meditation that that Jeff mentioned but
00:42:54.839 --> 00:42:57.870
um you know I'd say some
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.150
capacities have been been opened in
00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:03.030
me
00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:07.069
um I also I took training in something
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.069
called Energy
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.430
Attunement and
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.069
uh that that's also a marvelous thing
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.630
and there's a very spiritual man named
00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:20.870
Andrew Shire I learned this
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:25.109
from and you know it it opens opens some
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.790
portals into some
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.589
how should I
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.630
say uh just
00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:35.630
some more more subtle Realms that we we
00:43:35.640 --> 00:43:37.829
might not be used to it's becoming
00:43:37.839 --> 00:43:39.710
becoming more mainstream and and with
00:43:39.720 --> 00:43:42.349
the meditation I'll lead you on you
00:43:42.359 --> 00:43:45.030
you'll see more what I'm talking about
00:43:45.040 --> 00:43:47.630
um I'll give a little bit of a lead in
00:43:47.640 --> 00:43:49.430
with the
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.670
meditation I took a number of trainings
00:43:52.680 --> 00:43:55.510
along the way of you know thinking I was
00:43:55.520 --> 00:43:58.150
developing Consulting career and more
00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:01.990
mediation and in one of them one morning
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.549
one of the trainers said okay now I'm
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.829
going to teach you to send love to the
00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:09.150
back of someone's heart and I just I sat
00:44:09.160 --> 00:44:12.630
old upright I want to hear this and he
00:44:12.640 --> 00:44:14.990
taught us real
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.950
quickly about picturing someone focusing
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.630
on them and sending love to them you
00:44:21.640 --> 00:44:24.270
know making the effort to send
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.870
love and I was very struck with this and
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.109
he had us tested out also told us a
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.069
story of how he applied it in a an event
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.589
in his own life of tremendous conflict
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.549
with this miraculous outcome miraculous
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.670
outcome and I was in the midst of my
00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:46.950
divorce at the time and my wife had this
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:48.870
very adversarial
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.190
attorney and he kept messing things up
00:44:52.200 --> 00:44:53.950
she and I would have an agreement and
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.430
he'd come along and say no no let let's
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.109
mess it up
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.270
and I finally got so frustrated I tried
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:01.549
talking to
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.349
her she wouldn't listen and I said it's
00:45:05.359 --> 00:45:06.870
your
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.589
attorney and then finally one night I
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.549
said Baba what what do I do and I said
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.309
wait a minute I I learned this thing was
00:45:15.319 --> 00:45:17.230
at Harvard Law School the
00:45:17.240 --> 00:45:20.150
training I said maybe I should try this
00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:22.430
sending love thing that I just learned
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.069
so I pictured my
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.190
wife and I just started sending love and
00:45:28.200 --> 00:45:29.430
also the
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.150
attorney and it felt good but I felt
00:45:33.160 --> 00:45:35.109
like this isn't enough and what came to
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.910
me was what if I could focus on sending
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.109
Baba's love to her heart and the way I
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.870
originally learned it was to the back of
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.030
the heart and now now I say filling the
00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:48.950
heart all the way through all the way to
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.750
the back so I pictured Baba's love
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:56.710
pouring into her and that really felt
00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:59.910
good it really did and I pictured the
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:02.270
attorney
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.390
also a couple of weeks later my attorney
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.349
called me and she said I don't know
00:46:07.359 --> 00:46:09.190
what's come over your wife's attorney
00:46:09.200 --> 00:46:12.430
but now he's got a new agreement he's
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.270
proposing but this one's actually better
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.950
for you so let's take that agreement and
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:19.990
and we did it was like something came
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.430
over this guy he didn't know what it
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.109
was my wife called me a couple of weeks
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.309
later and she said um I know the things
00:46:28.319 --> 00:46:30.910
you've been studying with the healing
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.589
and so on and she Saidi want to ask for
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.670
your help I'm having an awful time with
00:46:36.680 --> 00:46:38.710
these phobias I
00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:42.069
have and I knew just hearing her voice
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.630
something is utterly different utterly
00:46:44.640 --> 00:46:48.150
different her voice was soft
00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:50.390
and
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.150
vulnerable and I said I'm I'm so touched
00:46:53.160 --> 00:46:55.710
I'm so touched and there was no conflict
00:46:55.720 --> 00:46:58.589
any conflict was just gone between us it
00:46:58.599 --> 00:46:59.549
was
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.150
melted and and I listened to her and and
00:47:03.160 --> 00:47:06.190
I said um I don't think it's appropriate
00:47:06.200 --> 00:47:07.710
that I work with you what if I get
00:47:07.720 --> 00:47:10.510
somebody else and she said okay and I
00:47:10.520 --> 00:47:12.270
did and in a couple of sessions this
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:18.829
other woman had her fine with her her
00:47:18.839 --> 00:47:22.349
phobias and anyway I've been able to
00:47:22.359 --> 00:47:26.990
bring those sensitivities to uh working
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:28.109
with
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.109
people
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.309
sometimes um and it it's become a great
00:47:34.319 --> 00:47:36.470
gift and I I feel it's something that we
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.190
all we all have
00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:42.309
a an opening with with with Boba and
00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:44.829
you'll you'll experience more of what
00:47:44.839 --> 00:47:46.510
you know what what we'll do in a short
00:47:46.520 --> 00:47:47.990
time
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:54.030
there um let me see if there's anything
00:47:54.040 --> 00:47:58.109
else oh yes
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.710
um I I want to come full circle on a
00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:02.790
couple of things I mentioned that my
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.150
mother was the most difficult person in
00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:09.470
my life when I
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.109
was
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.950
um somewhere in my 40s I was sitting in
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.069
the somi in India
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.790
alone and I was kind of complaining
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.030
about my mother too Baba and I said you
00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:25.790
know my mother she drove me to God and
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.030
he said stop
00:48:28.040 --> 00:48:31.109
he said listen to that she gave you the
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.589
greatest gift she could have given you
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.390
she drove you to
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.710
me and that blew me backwards and
00:48:39.720 --> 00:48:44.670
utterly changed my sense of
00:48:44.680 --> 00:48:48.390
perspective my sense of the connection
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.829
my mother and me in this
00:48:50.839 --> 00:48:55.069
lifetime um also the karma you know
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.349
different different lifetimes of what
00:48:57.359 --> 00:48:59.910
what B knows that I don't know that we
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:00.750
don't
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.430
know uh so that was a remarkable
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.549
experience and I made a decision at that
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.390
point to Simply treat her the best I
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.069
could the rest of her life which I did
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:17.430
which which really really worked out
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.150
well
00:49:19.160 --> 00:49:22.549
um and then um again with the the work
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.150
I'm doing on the center I I go back to
00:49:25.160 --> 00:49:26.910
that first visit on the center turn
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.630
looking in the shop and that quick
00:49:30.640 --> 00:49:32.589
fantasy wouldn't it be incredible to do
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.630
carpentry work here and then you know
00:49:35.640 --> 00:49:37.870
have it come true in in a big
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.750
way so Jeff I think uh I think I've said
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:47.710
my piece yeah beautiful am I am I
00:49:47.720 --> 00:49:51.430
audible yes oh you can hear me yeah no
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.990
lovely and um if there you
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.710
know he's going to lead us on this
00:49:57.720 --> 00:50:02.109
heart- centered meditation but any
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.829
questions we got one there yeah
00:50:05.839 --> 00:50:09.309
Richard what's your son's first
00:50:09.319 --> 00:50:12.270
name I have a daughter oh a daughter
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.870
sorry what's your daughter's first name
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.630
Katrina
00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:23.950
yeah yeah Diana and Terry yeah so I was
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.990
going to call on ourselves go ahead so I
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.230
was curious too as to what happened to
00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:30.829
the toddler do you have a good
00:50:30.839 --> 00:50:37.270
relationship with them with
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.470
her you mean my my wife daughter Katrina
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.190
oh oh yeah yeah yeah no it's a yeah it's
00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:46.349
a great
00:50:46.359 --> 00:50:48.710
relationship I'm sorry I misunderstood
00:50:48.720 --> 00:50:50.670
what you said no it's a great
00:50:50.680 --> 00:50:53.390
relationship I'm trying to work out they
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.190
live in Massachusetts I'm trying to work
00:50:55.200 --> 00:50:58.670
out getting uh visit with them this
00:50:58.680 --> 00:51:01.910
Summer uh but she's a I think a
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.349
wonderful Soul she got to come to the
00:51:05.359 --> 00:51:07.710
very first two Youth
00:51:07.720 --> 00:51:11.430
sahavas and she she's turning 47 this
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:12.150
this
00:51:12.160 --> 00:51:14.789
summer but she's a she's a marvelous
00:51:14.799 --> 00:51:18.349
lady and uh has a wonderful husband and
00:51:18.359 --> 00:51:23.190
son nice yeah nice I just have one other
00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:25.109
question where from Massachusetts are
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.710
you from I'm sorry where are you from in
00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:32.109
Massachusetts well I I grew up uh mainly
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:33.829
in a suburb
00:51:33.839 --> 00:51:36.549
Belmont just west of Boston It's a Small
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.150
Town borders on
00:51:39.160 --> 00:51:42.270
Cambridge um and but then I spent almost
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.150
30 years on Cape
00:51:44.160 --> 00:51:49.150
Cod unexpectedly yeah all right what
00:51:49.160 --> 00:51:52.549
pass what what
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:56.309
Pat what what Pat part of the C that the
00:51:56.319 --> 00:51:57.829
nice
00:51:57.839 --> 00:52:00.789
Pat well I I lived I lived mostly in
00:52:00.799 --> 00:52:03.270
Falmouth town of Falmouth and then I
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.789
spent a few years in
00:52:05.799 --> 00:52:07.510
Sandwich
00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:10.270
yeah thanks for sharing this was
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.349
wonderful oh thank you I hope something
00:52:14.359 --> 00:52:18.750
came across there yeah very much so good
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.829
let's go let's go to Chicago with Marsha
00:52:21.839 --> 00:52:26.670
Mara I just W to thank you for sharing
00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:29.430
your story and I've I've done your heart
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.549
meditation and it's remarkable and it's
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:33.589
just
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:35.710
really very important to hear what
00:52:35.720 --> 00:52:38.470
you've said to us and I can identify
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.030
with a lot of things so just thank
00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:44.230
you going call on you for to get over
00:52:44.240 --> 00:52:46.150
something that's holding me
00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:48.470
back sometimes you got one little thing
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.109
you know that to let go of and it's hard
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.230
you know yeah yeah well thanks well
00:52:54.240 --> 00:52:57.870
thank thank you Mara thank you
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:02.510
mar mar hi it's maryan New York City
00:53:02.520 --> 00:53:05.309
yeah done some of your meditation some
00:53:05.319 --> 00:53:07.789
while back I'm looking forward to it so
00:53:07.799 --> 00:53:10.470
I usually don't I don't have a
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.710
question and it just felt very
00:53:12.720 --> 00:53:15.230
superficial kind of I don't have enough
00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:17.750
words to say how your sharing affected
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.270
me because it there are no words for it
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.390
so I'll do my best because I felt it
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.069
just deepened my connection with my
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:28.710
heart and with my knowingness and with
00:53:28.720 --> 00:53:31.309
uh challenges that I'm going through of
00:53:31.319 --> 00:53:34.190
a deeper connection of knowing that you
00:53:34.200 --> 00:53:35.950
know I'm being dragged through all of
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.069
this out of love and so thank you so
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.190
much because you're sharing uh has an
00:53:42.200 --> 00:53:45.190
energy that is very very healing thank
00:53:45.200 --> 00:53:49.069
you oh thanks Maran I'm glad I'm glad
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.789
beautifully said Marian
00:53:52.799 --> 00:53:56.309
yeah so am I allowed to say something oh
00:53:56.319 --> 00:54:01.069
yeah it's you yeah it's you it's
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.710
you I just uh I just wanted to say um I
00:54:05.720 --> 00:54:09.230
mean I've heard steuart share this and
00:54:09.240 --> 00:54:11.870
having been with him and knowing how
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.390
much the work on the center touches his
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.430
heart um knowing that he's doing that
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.470
work and just how heart- centered he is
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.109
you've heard him share tonight but um
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:26.030
I've just never known anybody that's
00:54:26.040 --> 00:54:29.990
been so compassionate so heart centered
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.030
um and just
00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:34.829
so
00:54:34.839 --> 00:54:40.030
just so real so authentic and I just um
00:54:40.040 --> 00:54:41.510
it's it's great to have been here and to
00:54:41.520 --> 00:54:43.910
share him with all of you and to hear
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.950
your comments so I just wanted to yeah
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.030
say that so thanks for allowing me thank
00:54:51.040 --> 00:54:53.470
you thank
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.950
you very
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:03.150
me Mary yeah Mary Mary Barrett hey
00:55:03.160 --> 00:55:05.230
Stuart hi
00:55:05.240 --> 00:55:08.950
there um we lived on Cape Cod we
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:15.270
all we we I've known Stuart since uh 72
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.430
maybe shortly after you one of your fir
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:21.069
when you were first coming to the
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.950
center um but anyway I just wanted to
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:26.910
say hi and I sent you a little little
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:31.910
uh a text in the chat so okay I don't
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.430
want to take any time but it's just it's
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.589
wonderful to see you it really is oh
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:39.950
thank you thank you glad you're here
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.990
glad you're here thank you
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:46.470
so H let's go back to California and
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.309
talk to
00:55:48.319 --> 00:55:54.630
Martha yeah hi Stuart hi Mar hi dear uh
00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:57.150
I wanted to ask you
00:55:57.160 --> 00:55:59.630
the beginning of your story sounds like
00:55:59.640 --> 00:56:01.990
an Angelic fairy
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.190
tale was there a human man in there
00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:08.190
doing really you know human stuff while
00:56:08.200 --> 00:56:10.309
you were talking to God or were you in
00:56:10.319 --> 00:56:13.710
this realm of transformation kind of
00:56:13.720 --> 00:56:15.150
removed
00:56:15.160 --> 00:56:18.270
from you know lust and greed and anger
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:21.910
and
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.589
jealousy well there there was no other
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.029
person I wasn't reading anything
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.870
this was all internal all all God
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.349
opening himself to me and letting him
00:56:32.359 --> 00:56:34.670
know he was letting me know he was
00:56:34.680 --> 00:56:36.670
nameless formless
00:56:36.680 --> 00:56:38.750
god
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:44.109
um you know and in terms of
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.430
being you know separated from lust and
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:50.309
greed and anger and all
00:56:50.319 --> 00:56:53.270
that no I would I wasn't separated from
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.230
it but the
00:56:55.240 --> 00:56:59.029
um what he opened inside me after a
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.309
while was So
00:57:01.319 --> 00:57:04.190
Glorious that it was stronger than
00:57:04.200 --> 00:57:07.829
anything else you know but I but but
00:57:07.839 --> 00:57:10.190
along the way like I mentioned those
00:57:10.200 --> 00:57:13.990
Boulders that would come toward me um it
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.630
they were you know they they weren't
00:57:16.640 --> 00:57:20.270
like heavy lust greed anger but parts of
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.470
my ego parts of my ego but then after
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.349
the whole thing was taken away
00:57:27.359 --> 00:57:30.430
then all hell broke loose you know it's
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.910
like it was fair fair game for
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.670
everything from this lifetime and
00:57:35.680 --> 00:57:38.750
lifetimes before to come surging and
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.789
roaring roaring forth so does that
00:57:41.799 --> 00:57:44.750
answer you Martha yes yes and I have a
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.829
second question also Stuart you
00:57:46.839 --> 00:57:49.390
mentioned that you decided to treat
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.630
everyone kindly and with
00:57:52.640 --> 00:57:55.309
love was that correct something like
00:57:55.319 --> 00:57:57.349
that that you made a decision somewhere
00:57:57.359 --> 00:58:01.789
along the way yes okay so what does that
00:58:01.799 --> 00:58:04.349
mean was it an active thing that you
00:58:04.359 --> 00:58:06.589
thought of every day or did you get up
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.190
and say okay Boba I'm offering you the
00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:12.589
day and do with me what you want or how
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.670
did that how was that it it's a great
00:58:15.680 --> 00:58:18.589
question um you know so I do have to
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.390
start my day with
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:25.270
Baba in in different ways you know um I
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.029
have to set the tone tone with with Baba
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.190
being with me and I I say the prayers I
00:58:31.200 --> 00:58:34.069
I also repeat mayor Baba I now begin
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.510
entrusting all thought's words and deeds
00:58:36.520 --> 00:58:37.470
to
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:41.589
you and I just repeat his name inwardly
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.270
I talk to him while I'm working you I'll
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:45.990
say all right Baba what are we going to
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.710
do here ah okay thanks you
00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:53.470
know um but early on as a
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:57.270
teenager I have to say God Tau Tau me
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.990
about stepping toward others in
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:03.750
kindness so I think maybe I kind of had
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:07.150
a foot in the door already that as an
00:59:07.160 --> 00:59:10.750
adult
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.549
um I I kind of had it's like I had a
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.510
blueprint for it in a sense so it it
00:59:16.520 --> 00:59:20.710
means for me stepping out
00:59:20.720 --> 00:59:24.710
of the me I'm used to like going out of
00:59:24.720 --> 00:59:27.950
my way to say something kind friendly
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.069
ask a question about somebody else uh so
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.870
I learned in my in my
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.270
construction and I I learned to pursue
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:37.670
this with with
00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:40.549
customers and after a while I'd sit them
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.549
down and I'd say okay you know we've
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:43.470
worked
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.270
out uh details of the project that's
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.270
great I want to have another
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:50.870
conversation which is equally as
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.390
important and it's about our
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.789
relationship so I want to take great
00:59:55.799 --> 00:59:59.710
care care of you I want us to keep
00:59:59.720 --> 01:00:04.150
up clear and open communication
01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:06.190
together
01:00:06.200 --> 01:00:10.270
um I'm not going to be available 247 but
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.710
I I am I am accessible to you I want you
01:00:13.720 --> 01:00:16.549
to be happy at the end of this project
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.109
so how does this sound and say that to
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:22.829
people and people people saying to me
01:00:22.839 --> 01:00:24.549
never expected to hear anything like
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:26.990
that in our lives you know we we can't
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.630
wait to
01:00:28.640 --> 01:00:31.630
begin and then I realized I had to keep
01:00:31.640 --> 01:00:33.589
doing it you know and construction can
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:36.789
have a lot of complications and
01:00:36.799 --> 01:00:38.789
frustrations and
01:00:38.799 --> 01:00:41.309
uh you know and there times I really at
01:00:41.319 --> 01:00:46.829
to work at okay you know um trying
01:00:46.839 --> 01:00:50.950
to put on the put up the the cheerful
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:56.150
face here um but it and honestly it open
01:00:56.160 --> 01:01:00.390
a door to a Wonder of connection with
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.190
people uh a lot of my customers became
01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:07.750
friends subcontractors became
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.950
friends and I I
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.430
felt answered beyond the efforts that I
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.829
made you know the the efforts that I
01:01:16.839 --> 01:01:20.990
made toward being kind
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.870
helpful cheerful
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:26.430
humorous um that came back back to me
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.230
even more so and and it opened opened a
01:01:29.240 --> 01:01:32.029
bigger World it just opened a bigger
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:35.870
world is that does that answer you yes
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.029
it does and it's just the power of
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:41.190
intention also correct the intention
01:01:41.200 --> 01:01:43.390
that you had and then as soon as I have
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.750
that intention then I'll be showing the
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:49.109
direction and how to do it and that kind
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:51.630
of thing yeah that's beautiful yeah
01:01:51.640 --> 01:01:55.029
beautiful thank you yeah and I I say to
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:56.870
Baba
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.710
uh I'm taking your light and love with
01:01:59.720 --> 01:02:03.349
me today oh that's and then I just I try
01:02:03.359 --> 01:02:06.510
to carry that and I get you know little
01:02:06.520 --> 01:02:10.029
reminders uh okay carry the light and
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.309
love and and see what happens with it um
01:02:14.319 --> 01:02:16.789
but the yeah the
01:02:16.799 --> 01:02:20.029
intention very important and very
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.589
important just touching Bass with Baba
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.950
during the day you know letting him know
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:27.829
I mean maybe you're already doing it
01:02:27.839 --> 01:02:31.589
maybe you are but um you just letting
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:33.950
them know what what what you're up to
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.870
and uh you know I've had many very
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.349
surprising things come out of that
01:02:40.359 --> 01:02:43.069
whole uh way of being you know and
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:46.750
trying to be that
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:51.430
way thanks I'm gonna call on
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.230
myself okay
01:02:53.240 --> 01:02:56.630
s h
01:02:56.640 --> 01:02:59.349
what one of the things that I find so
01:02:59.359 --> 01:03:02.510
valuable especially with late night is
01:03:02.520 --> 01:03:06.150
how people talk about how they work with
01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:07.470
Baba
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.150
internally on navigating through their
01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:11.269
own
01:03:11.279 --> 01:03:13.670
lives
01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:17.230
so when something does not go your way
01:03:17.240 --> 01:03:20.349
something maybe tragic
01:03:20.359 --> 01:03:27.029
happens how do you re reconcile that
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:28.549
being a baba
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:30.670
of sometimes
01:03:30.680 --> 01:03:33.230
that's quite hard you know the challenge
01:03:33.240 --> 01:03:36.510
can be very big but I always have to
01:03:36.520 --> 01:03:37.670
turn to
01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:41.069
Baba and you
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:44.750
know I'm convinced that he knows what's
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:47.109
going on with everything and that
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.829
ultimately everything's for our own good
01:03:49.839 --> 01:03:53.390
you know I am convinced of that um but
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.269
it it it can be hard stuff to
01:03:56.279 --> 01:04:00.390
swallow um you know
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.990
so
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.349
I I I take him inwardly some something
01:04:07.359 --> 01:04:10.510
happened recently uh I got very upset
01:04:10.520 --> 01:04:14.390
with myself making a mistake at work and
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.750
I'm I'm hard on myself that and that
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.549
comes from early age and probably a past
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:22.309
life like I got very upset and then it
01:04:22.319 --> 01:04:24.670
came to me well say the prayer of
01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:27.870
repentance and I did at work and while I
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:32.430
was saying it I realized oh my
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.309
God every word deed
01:04:35.319 --> 01:04:37.029
of
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.190
uh hatred and
01:04:39.200 --> 01:04:42.670
selfishness toward myself you know
01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:43.789
hatred and
01:04:43.799 --> 01:04:47.470
anger and it's not just people out there
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.910
it's Al it also myself that was that the
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.190
first time I ever heard the repentance
01:04:54.200 --> 01:05:00.230
prayer in that way in 54 years now
01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:03.829
so anyway another part of
01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:07.069
it yeah that that's a wonderful insight
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.150
there that it also pertains to ourselves
01:05:10.160 --> 01:05:13.230
yeah you know self self-compassion
01:05:13.240 --> 01:05:16.309
Richard there oh I'm sorry I have one
01:05:16.319 --> 01:05:18.510
question for you uh Stuart since you're
01:05:18.520 --> 01:05:21.390
in charge of a lot of this I I love the
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:23.829
center I've been there a few times but I
01:05:23.839 --> 01:05:26.589
was curious do you know or are you
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:30.589
working on phyllis's Old House an art
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:33.190
studio are you going to convert that
01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:36.750
to a place for people to stay oh
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.670
goodness um the house is gone it is the
01:05:40.680 --> 01:05:42.309
the house has been taken down it was too
01:05:42.319 --> 01:05:46.269
far gone okay gotcha thank you the
01:05:46.279 --> 01:05:48.589
studio which I've been working on for
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.710
months that's what I've been working on
01:05:50.720 --> 01:05:53.309
the last number of months the studio is
01:05:53.319 --> 01:05:56.750
being converted into a a Furniture
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.990
Archive Building for Baba so to bit of a
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:02.910
workshop and some
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.990
storage of uh some special Furniture
01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:11.309
related to Baba and um the powers of be
01:06:11.319 --> 01:06:13.150
are really honest to get the building
01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:16.990
open so they can they can use it but uh
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.109
it's coming along very well so yeah I
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.069
Richard I'll tell you what if I can get
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:26.670
your information I'll send you some
01:06:26.680 --> 01:06:29.589
pictures oh I'd love it all right I was
01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.029
there five years ago and I asked about
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.950
it but uh but Phyllis was in care still
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.349
she had away well thank you I love that
01:06:38.359 --> 01:06:41.549
uh thanks I I'll find out how to reach
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:44.789
you and I'll okay I'll do that all right
01:06:44.799 --> 01:06:47.950
yeah thank you okay hey Ste I'm thinking
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.269
uh since we're getting kind of late we
01:06:50.279 --> 01:06:53.430
yes should probably do the heart-
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.069
centered meditation
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:58.390
uh we have sounds like a winner all
01:06:58.400 --> 01:06:59.990
these people from California they're
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.710
just they got an easy life but here we
01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:07.109
suffer
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:09.349
get so
01:07:09.359 --> 01:07:14.349
yeah all right so you ready Jeff yeah so
01:07:14.359 --> 01:07:24.269
everybody should mute
01:07:24.279 --> 01:07:27.870
themselves okay okay J
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:31.510
Baba so we're going to go on a little
01:07:31.520 --> 01:07:33.309
journey with Baba
01:07:33.319 --> 01:07:38.910
here so start breathing into your
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:47.029
belly and we'll keep up this breathing
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:52.789
throughout and keep your eyes
01:07:52.799 --> 01:07:56.589
closed and settle into wherever you're
01:07:56.599 --> 01:07:58.670
sitting or
01:07:58.680 --> 01:08:10.870
laying and just let yourself be
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:13.430
supported and let the day just kind of
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:27.709
melt away from you
01:08:27.719 --> 01:08:32.470
and as you keep breathing into your
01:08:32.480 --> 01:08:34.950
belly now let's bring
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:38.349
attention to your heart and your heart
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:44.590
centered that I spoke of
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.470
before and this is the Home in all of us
01:08:47.480 --> 01:08:51.349
of May Baba's infinite unconditional
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:57.669
love
01:08:57.679 --> 01:09:00.910
and he says that we have this pool and
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.910
this flow of this infinite love all the
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.390
time 24 hours a
01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:21.430
day always available to
01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:27.630
us so just take note of what you see in
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.430
feel as you have your attention in your
01:09:31.440 --> 01:09:49.110
deep heart
01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:52.110
area and
01:09:52.120 --> 01:09:56.189
now and now
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:58.830
like you to pick someone use with your
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.189
heart as your
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.390
guide someone who you would like to
01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:08.630
share May Baba's infinite love
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:11.510
with and this could be one person it
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.630
could be more than one person could be a
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:20.830
group even but let your heart be your
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:25.110
guide and as you do this this process
01:10:25.120 --> 01:10:27.030
that we're going to be doing
01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:30.790
sharing Baba's infinite love can be
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.110
incredibly powerful in the event of
01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:38.550
conflict past and
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.910
present it can
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:43.110
be
01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:50.149
incredibly healing and
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:52.590
soothing wonderful thing for somebody
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:53.950
going through a
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:57.590
lot and can be beautiful just to share
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.310
it with somebody who you simply want to
01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:03.070
share more love with more of Baba's love
01:11:03.080 --> 01:11:09.149
with so again let your heart be your
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.750
guide and as we do this we're not trying
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.149
to change anybody we're not trying to
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:19.390
bring about any particular happening we
01:11:19.400 --> 01:11:21.709
really opening ourselves to the magic
01:11:21.719 --> 01:11:40.990
and The Wonder of Baba's infinite love
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.430
so now get a
01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:45.149
good
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.590
picture of whoever it is you're choosing
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:53.629
in your mind in your
01:11:53.639 --> 01:12:02.189
heart and as you see them and you feel
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.709
them bring your awareness to their heart
01:12:05.719 --> 01:12:15.750
and their heart
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.750
center and this is really the connecting
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:22.750
Place between all of
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:35.390
us this Universal heart
01:12:35.400 --> 01:12:39.149
and as you see them before you
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.629
and you're paying attention to their
01:12:41.639 --> 01:12:45.870
deep heart take note of what you see and
01:12:45.880 --> 01:13:14.590
feel as you do this
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.910
and now let's picture mayor Baba's
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.470
infinite unconditional
01:13:21.480 --> 01:13:25.149
love this flowing steadily pouring into
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:32.629
into their heart and their heart
01:13:32.639 --> 01:13:36.030
center and filling every bit every
01:13:36.040 --> 01:13:42.750
little
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:46.270
corner and I see this warm
01:13:46.280 --> 01:13:57.669
delicious liquid Golden Light Of Love
01:13:57.679 --> 01:13:59.709
that's carrying its wonder and
01:13:59.719 --> 01:14:05.590
brightness with
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:11.270
it and this infinite
01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:16.550
love has amazing qualities and some of
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:21.229
them this love is healing and
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.629
soothing it's uplifting
01:14:25.639 --> 01:14:29.149
it's
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.310
inspiring it's
01:14:33.320 --> 01:14:39.110
expansive it's
01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:47.149
forgiving it's
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:52.390
creative and this infinite love all
01:14:52.400 --> 01:15:05.470
comes from mayor Baba's an endless
01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:09.110
gift and now let's see and feel the love
01:15:09.120 --> 01:15:12.310
flowing so fully that it's overflowing
01:15:12.320 --> 01:15:13.470
from the
01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:17.629
heart of whoever you're
01:15:17.639 --> 01:15:20.149
picturing and it's flowing right through
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:25.510
the heart as it continues to fill
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:29.149
and now it's filling every bit of their
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:34.550
being every bit of body mind and
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:36.990
soul on every
01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:40.790
Dimension as it continues to fill the
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.990
heart at the same
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.830
time and we never know the
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.350
Wonders that this love might bring
01:15:51.360 --> 01:16:03.709
because it does
01:16:03.719 --> 01:16:05.550
and let's just sit for a few moments
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:23.910
with the flow of Baba's
01:16:23.920 --> 01:17:23.830
love e
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:26.189
and now let's give thanks to Mayor Baba
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:27.350
for being
01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:31.709
able to focus on sharing his infinite
01:17:31.719 --> 01:17:38.990
love with those who you've
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.950
chosen and know that you can return here
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:50.030
again and again any
01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:52.830
time this infinite love Warehouse is
01:17:52.840 --> 01:18:00.590
always open
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.830
and let's Bid Farewell to
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.430
them for
01:18:06.440 --> 01:18:10.790
now and gently bring your attention back
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:17.750
to your own heart and heart
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.709
center and breathe
01:18:21.719 --> 01:18:25.070
in picture breathing into your heart
01:18:25.080 --> 01:18:37.790
heart and your heart
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:40.270
center and take note of what you might
01:18:40.280 --> 01:19:01.110
see and feel
01:19:01.120 --> 01:19:03.709
and now let's start to picture Baba's
01:19:03.719 --> 01:19:06.790
infinite unconditional
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:14.030
love pouring into our own
01:19:14.040 --> 01:19:17.189
hearts out of his infinite Beauty
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:21.790
and fullness and
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:25.470
kindness and see and feel this love fill
01:19:25.480 --> 01:19:32.070
fing our hearts
01:19:32.080 --> 01:19:37.590
completely bringing all its incredible
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:41.310
qualities it's healing and
01:19:41.320 --> 01:19:45.830
soothing it's uplifting it's
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:50.189
enlightening it's
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:57.390
inspiring it's expansive
01:19:57.400 --> 01:20:02.990
it's
01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:12.669
forgiven it's endlessly
01:20:12.679 --> 01:20:15.870
creative and again I see this
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:22.950
beautiful warm liquid Golden Light Of
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:39.950
Love is flow fully into our
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.830
hearts and now flowing so fully that
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:47.110
it's
01:20:47.120 --> 01:20:49.430
overflowing and it's flowing through our
01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:58.709
hearts all at the same time
01:20:58.719 --> 01:21:04.270
and it's filling every bit of our
01:21:04.280 --> 01:21:10.229
being every bit of body mind and
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:14.110
soul as it continues to fill our hearts
01:21:14.120 --> 01:21:28.310
endlessly
01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:31.590
so let's sit for a few moments with this
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:35.189
wondrous love flowing into our hearts
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:36.870
and beings
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.350
and knowing that we we never
01:21:40.360 --> 01:21:43.070
know what kind of Wonders may happen
01:21:43.080 --> 01:21:53.510
from
01:21:53.520 --> 01:22:23.510
this
01:22:23.520 --> 01:23:14.709
e e
01:23:14.719 --> 01:23:23.430
let's just take one more
01:23:23.440 --> 01:23:54.590
moment e
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:56.830
and now let's give thanks to May Baba
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:58.990
for being able
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:04.030
to focus on the flow endless flow of his
01:24:04.040 --> 01:24:06.350
infinite love into our
01:24:06.360 --> 01:24:08.189
hearts and
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:12.950
beings this love is always
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:25.470
available he invites us to partake
01:24:25.480 --> 01:24:28.390
so let's gently bring
01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:34.070
ourselves back to our
01:24:34.080 --> 01:24:37.350
surroundings and when you're ready you
01:24:37.360 --> 01:24:53.310
can open your
01:24:53.320 --> 01:25:23.310
eyes
01:25:23.320 --> 01:26:07.550
e e
01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:09.830
so Jeff you want to take a little bit of
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.470
time for sharing you
01:26:13.480 --> 01:26:18.990
think oh you you're
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.590
muted yeah I mean it's a little bit late
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.669
but uh maybe with anyone wants to share
01:26:25.679 --> 01:26:28.550
something uh I mean anybody can check
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:30.510
out whenever because it is late on the
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:33.430
East Coast here but
01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:36.669
um wonderful and I just let me me
01:26:36.679 --> 01:26:40.910
mention again is that uh we do this like
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:44.430
every second week normally on Wednesday
01:26:44.440 --> 01:26:48.149
of the month so if you need to kind of
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.310
get a nice Center yourself deeply in
01:26:51.320 --> 01:26:55.070
Baba uh on that week it's
01:26:55.080 --> 01:27:00.149
uh feel free to
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.470
join but anybody like oh there we have
01:27:03.480 --> 01:27:06.790
this coming from Germany here ohanes and
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:10.629
Sabine good morning St well it's evening
01:27:10.639 --> 01:27:12.870
for you but it's morning for us lovely
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.510
thank you for your sharing it really
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:17.590
sort of touched on a few points with me
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:19.830
but I wanted to ask do you record the
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:22.109
meditation because I think the time you
01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:24.430
do it it's 1:00 in the morning for us so
01:27:24.440 --> 01:27:26.790
I don't think we would
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.830
manage I I try to remember to record
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:32.790
them um many of them are recorded on
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:35.910
effort and Grace with Jeff
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.990
previously and uh some of them are
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.510
recorded on Baba
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:46.310
Zoom you can yeah you can find some
01:27:46.320 --> 01:27:49.910
lovely thank you yeah welcome yeah
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:52.470
because you can almost go with any of
01:27:52.480 --> 01:27:56.550
them uh you know if you have just one
01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.830
recording it doesn't have to be the same
01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:01.070
different one each
01:28:01.080 --> 01:28:05.910
time
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:11.030
yeah um we'll go to um Marca and then to
01:28:11.040 --> 01:28:15.629
K I just wanted to remind people that on
01:28:15.639 --> 01:28:18.590
Tuesdays we sing the seven names of God
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:20.910
every Tuesday and that's a good thing if
01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:25.790
anybody wants to tune on on Baba Zoom
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:31.470
yeah good yeah
01:28:31.480 --> 01:28:36.229
calwin I I loved your story steuart I
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.030
feel like I've known you for a long time
01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:43.229
every time I'm with you and you do this
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.270
it fills me with joy and I think it
01:28:45.280 --> 01:28:48.830
really helps whoever Baba leads me to
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:52.750
choose our dear um Susan Paul who had a
01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.709
terrible accident in India and has
01:28:55.719 --> 01:28:59.390
finally arrived in Asheville about I
01:28:59.400 --> 01:29:03.950
think 3 months ago um so I chose her and
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.669
I was inspired to choose my
01:29:06.679 --> 01:29:10.270
ex-husband who is not a nice
01:29:10.280 --> 01:29:15.189
man and it felt so great I think I think
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:19.390
it worked and my two children as well so
01:29:19.400 --> 01:29:22.270
my um Family unit got this wonderful
01:29:22.280 --> 01:29:24.550
blessing from our dear belov
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.350
Baba and I hope that uh this helps Susan
01:29:28.360 --> 01:29:31.310
Paul She is receptive to all happy
01:29:31.320 --> 01:29:34.270
thoughts she's
01:29:34.280 --> 01:29:37.950
hoping um that she's able to move to her
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:39.629
place here in
01:29:39.639 --> 01:29:42.950
Asheville when her social security
01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:45.830
benefits or Medicare I guess it is
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:50.109
benefits tap out so um wow she had to
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.669
have two medical assistants fly with her
01:29:52.679 --> 01:29:55.390
from India wow the United States and
01:29:55.400 --> 01:29:58.350
then to Asheville and she has just
01:29:58.360 --> 01:30:00.149
really
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:01.950
had
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.310
boy got rid of a lot of s scars I'm sure
01:30:05.320 --> 01:30:08.430
wow so hold suzan Paul in your memories
01:30:08.440 --> 01:30:10.830
and thoughts and prayers and I'm sure
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:13.350
she'll appreciate it thanks I have to go
01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:16.149
to bed it's very late thanks so much hey
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:18.510
baba thank you so much Stuart I'll be
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:22.750
here again J Baba J Baba
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:24.470
Tony hi
01:30:24.480 --> 01:30:27.350
steuart thanks so much i' I've been to
01:30:27.360 --> 01:30:29.229
at least one maybe two of your
01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:31.109
meditations and I I remember I enjoyed
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:35.270
it a lot but tonight um I I'm I'm in the
01:30:35.280 --> 01:30:38.510
process of packing up this room big room
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:41.750
I'm in which is my music studio my
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:43.709
library
01:30:43.719 --> 01:30:47.310
my and and it's all got to be packed up
01:30:47.320 --> 01:30:49.790
for some uh work that has to be done in
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:51.950
the room in a few days a few days after
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.750
silence day and I've been um walking
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.629
quietly through a state of
01:30:57.639 --> 01:31:02.510
panic as best I can and um the biggest
01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:04.790
help in dealing with that was this
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:07.270
meditation tonight oh good feel very
01:31:07.280 --> 01:31:09.510
peaceful about the whole thing and good
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:13.390
Tony good Tony I'll I'll think of you
01:31:13.400 --> 01:31:15.790
thank
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:19.709
you okay and sine did you have your hand
01:31:19.719 --> 01:31:22.990
raised again or it was just because Baba
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:25.709
wanted me to mention something on Friday
01:31:25.719 --> 01:31:28.189
it's the 90th anniversary of his visit
01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:30.270
to Fallen flu in
01:31:30.280 --> 01:31:32.590
Switzerland where he did this deep work
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:35.149
and eight of us eight Baba lovers are
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:38.629
meeting so you know we're meeting at 12
01:31:38.639 --> 01:31:41.350
at the flu at the fall and flu so maybe
01:31:41.360 --> 01:31:44.510
one or two of you want to join
01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.629
in mean will it be in Zoom you mean or
01:31:47.639 --> 01:31:49.750
no no no no we will just be meeting but
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.990
you know in in spirit in your heart you
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.709
could join in yeah I just wanted to
01:31:55.719 --> 01:31:59.870
mention it that we doing beautiful
01:31:59.880 --> 01:32:03.109
yeah right you know there just a quick
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:04.709
story about that Baba went into
01:32:04.719 --> 01:32:09.109
meditation on this kind of Cliffside but
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:11.709
when he was there he posted people you
01:32:11.719 --> 01:32:15.830
know maybe 50 feet away on all sides on
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.790
the slope but it's also a public
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:23.510
property and so you know a couple of uh
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:26.990
hi ERS suddenly appeared and Walter
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:30.510
Marans was the one at the lower end of
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:33.270
of this um you know protecting Bob and
01:32:33.280 --> 01:32:36.350
trying to keep people and he didn't
01:32:36.360 --> 01:32:39.790
quite know what to do because uh it they
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.430
in his public a public um park or
01:32:43.440 --> 01:32:47.070
whatever and so what he said is uh this
01:32:47.080 --> 01:32:48.510
is what occurred to me he said there are
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:51.590
high voltage experiments going on up
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:56.229
there I wouldn't go there
01:32:56.239 --> 01:32:57.830
that were that did the trick that's
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:03.189
great thinking high voltage
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:06.590
experiment that's great at Fallen flu
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:10.109
yeah but really thank you you know Stu
01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:11.950
this was wonderful
01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:15.470
and you know I hope you get the chance
01:33:15.480 --> 01:33:18.430
to to meet Stu I mean he's like an
01:33:18.440 --> 01:33:21.470
embodiment of of goodwi truly I mean
01:33:21.480 --> 01:33:23.750
I've known him all these years and he'll
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:28.750
he'll give you his best he does is that
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:32.189
I do have one question asked yeah it's
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:34.030
one of those things that I will keep me
01:33:34.040 --> 01:33:38.270
up at night Stuart you had said that uh
01:33:38.280 --> 01:33:40.750
you thought you wanted to be a carpenter
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:44.430
at the center but you didn't know how to
01:33:44.440 --> 01:33:46.669
you weren't a carpenter you were a psych
01:33:46.679 --> 01:33:49.669
student but then you got hired as a
01:33:49.679 --> 01:33:53.270
carpenter for Cape Cod how how did that
01:33:53.280 --> 01:33:54.430
happen
01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:56.830
no well it was kind of a fantasy when I
01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:59.350
looked in the shop the first time I just
01:33:59.360 --> 01:34:01.030
thought would it be wouldn't it be
01:34:01.040 --> 01:34:03.790
incredible to do carpentry here I wasn't
01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:05.790
think I didn't have a goal of being a
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:09.790
carpenter there it's just this wonderful
01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:12.830
fantasy so I ended up working for a
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.590
couple of Builders and Woodworkers
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.510
actually in
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:21.910
19 76 I think I was a carpenter's helper
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:24.070
on the building of the meeting place on
01:34:24.080 --> 01:34:26.669
the center so that that was the first
01:34:26.679 --> 01:34:30.109
time um but then
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:34.669
um I I got to work with skilled people
01:34:34.679 --> 01:34:38.350
and just developed a career out of
01:34:38.360 --> 01:34:42.030
it thank you very much
01:34:42.040 --> 01:34:45.270
yeah that's it thank you thank you thank
01:34:45.280 --> 01:34:50.950
you thank you Jeff yeah so um have we
01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:55.870
anybody got a good quote to end with
01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:58.830
oh anybody
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.510
uh maybe you do I'll see if I I'll see
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:19.550
if I can find one real quickly
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:28.270
here wow a second
01:35:28.280 --> 01:35:58.990
I'm getting there
01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:03.950
oh Wow's
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:08.709
see uh oh oh Baba I kind of blew up I
01:36:08.719 --> 01:36:12.990
blew it here
01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:19.149
wait sorry about this
01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:21.790
folks Jeff I just ran across one if
01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:23.390
you'd like me to do one okay you go
01:36:23.400 --> 01:36:25.669
ahead head yeah
01:36:25.679 --> 01:36:28.550
okay this is from Lord may he
01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:32.270
here don't worry my love will give you
01:36:32.280 --> 01:36:35.189
that strength and conviction which makes
01:36:35.199 --> 01:36:38.430
you feel that you belong to God seek
01:36:38.440 --> 01:36:41.430
truth with all your heart and Baba will
01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:44.350
help I'm in this world to help people to
01:36:44.360 --> 01:36:48.870
love God to find him and to see
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:53.270
him J yeah Read that read that once
01:36:53.280 --> 01:36:55.229
again and we'll have a few moments of
01:36:55.239 --> 01:37:00.870
silence and then nasin will uh bid us
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.229
good
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:07.350
night okay Baba said don't worry my love
01:37:07.360 --> 01:37:09.430
will give you that strength and
01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:11.870
conviction which makes you feel that you
01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:15.510
belong to God seek truth with all your
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:19.229
heart and Baba will help I am in this
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:22.950
world to help people to love God to find
01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.709
him and to see
01:37:25.719 --> 01:37:49.390
him J Baba J Baba J
01:37:49.400 --> 01:37:54.589
Baba J thank you naine thank you Jeff
01:37:54.599 --> 01:37:57.430
thank you Jeff steu thank you that was
01:37:57.440 --> 01:37:59.750
wonderful
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:03.070
really I'm really glad your story is you
01:38:03.080 --> 01:38:05.669
know recorded and people will be able to
01:38:05.679 --> 01:38:07.550
hear it you know I mean it's because
01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.950
some people they they pass on and you
01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:13.550
never got their story so we've got your
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.030
story while you're still happy silence
01:38:16.040 --> 01:38:19.589
day to everybody oh yeah
01:38:19.599 --> 01:38:25.850
right yes all right much love
01:38:25.860 --> 01:38:32.990
[Music]
01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.510
hey nasen I'm gonna be out there in Los
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.709
Angeles do you know that wonderful yes I
01:38:38.719 --> 01:38:41.629
heard about it welcome good somebody
01:38:41.639 --> 01:38:43.430
with a big mouth I don't know who that
01:38:43.440 --> 01:38:44.149
could
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:48.430
be yes yes okay I like to invite you in
01:38:48.440 --> 01:38:52.669
my house if you if there is any chance
01:38:52.679 --> 01:38:55.310
yeah well well we'll we'll see what how
01:38:55.320 --> 01:38:56.629
everything plays out I'm going to go up
01:38:56.639 --> 01:39:00.510
to Mayer Mount and and various places
01:39:00.520 --> 01:39:03.229
but yeah I'll have that in mind and oh
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.750
please please I'd be very happy to have
01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:11.149
you yeah thank you okay all right much
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:12.870
love let's see I
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:18.510
don't okay J Baba all right J
01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:21.270
J thank you for you
01:39:21.280 --> 01:39:24.470
know thank you yes she gave him five
01:39:24.480 --> 01:39:30.510
cups of coffee just to make
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:32.669
it and Jeff there was a paid
01:39:32.679 --> 01:39:35.550
advertisement there
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:41.669
so not not no no much love okay see you
01:39:41.679 --> 01:39:45.109
guys okay yes bye
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:51.400
bye good night J buba good night