ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Imperfect action beats inaction every time. If you've been overthinking your next conversation, your next sales call, or your next networking move, this episode is the reframe you needed.
I sat down with Jordan Knope, founder of Authentic Charm Academy, to break down the communication playbook he teaches his coaching clients. We talk tonality, internal state, congruence tests, the five step funnel that maps cleanly to sales and leadership conversations, and why the willingness to start the conversation is worth more than any tactic. Jordan's lane is dating, but every framework in this episode applies to the room you walk into Monday morning.
In this episode you will learn:
• The drop tonality trick that makes you sound like a leader in 5 seconds
• Congruence tests, what they really are, and why they're a green light not a red flag in any high stakes conversation
• The five step straight line framework, open, premise, qualify, comfort, close, that works in sales, leadership, and any conversation that matters
Plus the internal state shift that fixes nervous approach energy in any room, the abundance mindset that removes the desperate energy that costs you the room, and David's Try This Tomorrow takeaway you can run by lunch.
Try This Tomorrow: walk up and introduce yourself to five new people. Five. The internal muscle you build is the same one Jordan teaches his coaching clients, and it's the one that earns rooms.
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- (00:00) - Hook
- (01:24) - Welcome and intro
- (02:03) - Meet Jordan Knope, the dating coach who built his own thing
- (02:43) - The pivot, leaving the other coach
- (06:45) - Where most guys mess up in dating
- (07:25) - The four channel dating funnel
- (08:55) - Looks are communication, the style you choose
- (10:18) - Approach, tonality, and the internal state
- (14:23) - Congruence tests, what women actually throw at you
- (19:56) - Female friends, and flirting with the world
- (26:43) - Do the things that scare you
- (27:55) - Emotional range and reading the room
- (29:42) - The straight line framework applied to dating
- (31:27) - Imperfect action, the 100 women rule
- (34:10) - Biggest takeaways, abundance, and the close
- (36:14) - Where to find Jordan
- (37:06) - Try This Tomorrow, five new conversations
IN THIS EPISODE
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Jordan: Imperfect action beats inaction every time. So if you guys literally changed nothing about your approach
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Jordan: Nothing about personality. You did not change a damn thing and all you did is just talk to a hundred women
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Jordan: I guarantee you at least a couple of them will be your type and
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Jordan: Find you attractive as well. So if you just talk to a hundred girls in ways of meeting girls and what happens with most guys get
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Jordan: Over reliant on one or none realistic which one of those guys that's they hop on to Tinder, Bumble Hinge and
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Jordan: They have an okay profile but okay profiles don't get attention. So for a lot of guys it's like maybe I have
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Jordan: One, two girls a month that I'm talking to versus to actually have an abundant dating life
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Jordan: You should be talking to as many women as possible. The easiest way to focus on that you do two things. One
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Jordan: Drop your tonality at the end of your sentence because you can say anything like a question or you can say anything
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Jordan: Or a question. It's a statement of fact when you drop that tonality at the end it sounds insecure and you when it's
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Jordan: Up talk at the end with a collet. But the other side of it too is just kind of having internally and it's the easiest thing to do
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Jordan: I'm here to make a day better. This is going to go well having back in the internal state and that'll take care of a lot of the other things.
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David: I feel like that's the beauty of being a man too right as our entire responsibility to do the things that's
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Jordan: You don't have to be perfect to get a date. You don't have to be perfect to get laid or get a girlfriend to get a wife. You can make those little mistakes.
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Jordan: You going up is way more important than anything.
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David: Hello everyone and welcome back to the podcast conversations that count. I am here with a good friend of mine Jordan and today
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David: We're going to talk about we all love to talk about in this communication how to be better at it more effective and how we can all improve.
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David: So before I talk too much Jordan can you introduce yourself tell us about you. Sure. Yeah. I am a long time sales guy but more recently dating coach.
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Jordan: So I help men break out of their shells become more attractive and then get the kind of women that they actually want their life and specifically we accomplish that by creating abundance dating as a
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David: Well. Okay. Dating coach creating abundance. I love that. So Jordan you got to tell me so I feel like sales and communication in general I'll go hand in hand. How did you end up being a dating coach? How did that work?
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Jordan: Through listeners I was actually working for different coach in the space and that's what let us all hear is through that network.
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Jordan: They were teaching more networking and conversations with a little data dating mixed in there. I'm more strictly on the dating side and I don't know I just had a couple of differences of opinions with the coaching style specific elements of the coaching style and then really with someone the management team but we just didn't see
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David: It anymore and so we went our separate ways and I realized I'm tired of building somebody else's dream. I have all of the skill set to do this for myself so decided to take matters into my own hands or my own thing. Man I love that.
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David: I feel like a lot of people reach that point.
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David: Where they have, they feel like they have to change or something has to change because you don't want to stay where you are.
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David: So that's cool that you look like a young guy too. So it's cool. You realize that now and didn't wait until you were 45 or 50.
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Jordan: Yeah. Something that I've always aspired to is starting my own thing. That was something that I realized probably about 20 years old,
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Jordan: If not earlier. But I just didn't know exactly what that was. And so I spent years
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Jordan: Accumulating different skill sets, everything from the sales side to fix my own dating life. I was an awkward,
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Jordan: I scared it. I mean, I couldn't do shit. So fix that problem for myself and then picked up
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Jordan: A content creation, photography, videography. The sales skill set, obviously, it was again just
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Jordan: Sharpening that communication weapon. And then I'd always clicked one day. I was like, okay,
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Jordan: I have literally everything that I need to make this happen.
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Jordan: But when that, so I do want to get into the communication of what you really do. But I'm always
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Jordan: Fascinated with how anyone gets into like when you go on your own path, you do your own thing.
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David: It's always a scary feeling. What were some of the early conversations you had with yourself?
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David: When you were like, you know what, I want to branch out on my own. I can do what I'm watching
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David: Everyone else do. And I think I can do it better. What was that conversation like?
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Jordan: It was something that started while I was still working for that other coach. And it was really
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Jordan: A weird time because I was making good money doing it. And I didn't have really anything to
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Jordan: For reference, I was doing anywhere between a hundred thousand dollars a month in sales for this
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Jordan: Other coach. I was like, if I can carve out a small piece of this for myself, there's no reason
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Jordan: I can't have a good life. And it actually took me a while. But really what happened one day as I did
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Jordan: Have really important conversation, I basically sat down with the person who was my manager at
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Jordan: The time and just told him everything that was on my mind. And I said, listen, man, I respect
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Jordan: You, but your feedback has a negative impact on me. Every time that I implement something that you
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Jordan: Say, my sales numbers drop. And I was like, yeah, it was a really brutal conversation. I was
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Jordan: Respectful of them. I stole and friends with the guy to this day, but it was one of those things
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Jordan: Where I was like, I walked into there fully expecting to be fired. And that was kind of my game
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Jordan: Plan. It's okay. Either I need to fix my mat right now or I need to go. And what's interesting
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Jordan: Is we actually worked on it for about a month that sales manager to his credit took it really
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Jordan: Well. And we started to make improvements, but then another sales guy came up and I guess
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Jordan: There's two of us who were closeers at the time. And is that a lot of us both go? Because they're
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Jordan: Like, you know what, we're just going to clean house. We're completely like, oh, this sales team. And
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Jordan: So I was like, okay, cool. That was kind of the sign that I needed. I'm ready now. I've been ready.
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Jordan: Things are done here. This is no longer an option. So it's time to make it work for myself.
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David: Well, they pushed you out of it. They pushed you without even meaning to you already on the fence.
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David: I'm ready to do my own thing. And that was really just.
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David: Not you need to do that.
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David: See, I don't know what you believe, but they have that saying like where if
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David: Something's not for you guys, never going to let you stay.
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David: All right, he'll never let you keep with not for you.
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David: So I could have been that you were supposed to have moved on.
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David: If I was the manager, I probably would have been going to go to after that chat that we had.
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Jordan: Hey, but shout out to him. No, for trying to make corrections.
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David: Eventually, what you know gets a little outdated, unless you're also in the trenches.
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Jordan: Yeah, I have massive respect for the guy.
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Jordan: Like I said, we still talk every now and then I would consider him a friend.
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Jordan: We're not as close as we were when we were talking every single day for work, but he is a good dude.
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David: Hell yeah. All right. Now I want to get into the exciting stuff, Jordan.
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David: So I want you to tell me more.
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David: What do you feel like, especially with your time being a dating coach, being in the space,
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David: Selling in the space, and you've done a wide range of things in the dating world?
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David: What are some of the places you feel like guys are messing up the most when it comes to dating?
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Jordan: So most guys just frankly do not talk to enough women period.
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Jordan: And that's a special issue in person, but if we break dating down it all starts with
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Jordan: You first being attractive, which a lot of that honestly is your communication skills.
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Jordan: So that you can develop. Four dating is being an effective communicator.
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Jordan: And then of course, there's all the little stuff like, hey, personal presentation,
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Jordan: Have a look. You don't need to be six foot four, Jack and juicy, but you should be in the gym.
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Jordan: You should have decent haircut, have a sense of style.
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Jordan: That's all making you attractive from there.
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Jordan: You have four main ways of meeting girls.
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Jordan: And what happens is most guys get over reliant on one or none really,
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Jordan: Which were most guys that's they hop on to Tinder, Bumble, Hinge.
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Jordan: And they have an okay profile, but okay profiles don't get attention.
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Jordan: So for a lot of guys, it's like maybe I have one, two girls a month that I'm talking to,
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Jordan: And I don't care if you're trying to have a wife or a long-term partner.
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Jordan: It's still really important that you do that from a place of abundance that you do that from
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Jordan: Being able to choose the best one for you.
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Jordan: I don't know. I know I rambled there for a little bit to that answer.
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Jordan: Most of the question or am I off topic here?
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David: No, no, I think you're right on it.
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David: And I do feel like to your point, a lot of guys don't think about how they look as much as they
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David: Should. And to your point, they're like, oh, I'm not six foot four, so why even try?
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David: When it's okay, you might not be that, but everyone's welcome at the gym.
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David: Every clothing store is going to take your money.
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David: There is opportunity to improve who you are.
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David: And I think that's what a lot of us miss is like the self development where they're like,
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David: Man, I'm just trying to get laid.
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David: And it's what if you didn't suck as much?
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David: But yeah, so it's interesting because you get two groups of guys, but kind of defeat
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Jordan: There's one group of guys who says, oh, looks are everything.
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Jordan: That's all the matters. It's true genetics.
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Jordan: That's not true at all. It's really the looks that you choose because it's not just a genetic problem.
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Jordan: It's actually communicating personality.
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Jordan: If you dress a certain way, that does absolutely say things about your character and who
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Jordan: You are. And that's really important facts.
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Jordan: Or there's the other group of guys who are like, oh, looks no matter at all.
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Jordan: So again, you can see a piece of your character.
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Jordan: She can see, okay, is this the kind of guy who disciplines?
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Jordan: Is this the kind of guy who gets up and gets after it every day?
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Jordan: Is this the kind of guy who notices the little details?
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Jordan: He's looking like he's giving up. So it's really important.
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Jordan: And most guys fail to grasp how much control they have over that.
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David: Jordan, you just let me reach for the chain I don't have.
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David: I feel real naked right now.
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David: I thought off guard. But no, I think that's a good point too.
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David: Where it's like, how many ways can you communicate without communicating?
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David: So clothing style are some of the like nonverbal communication.
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David: Are there any other like nonverbal communication methods that you recommend guys use or
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David: That like you've used or sure?
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Jordan: So especially if you're going to go up and talk to a girl in person, a lot of how
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Jordan: That approach goes is going to be dictated before you open your mouth.
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Jordan: So it's going over the second that you see her because women can absolutely tell when
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Jordan: You're kind of wandering around the edge like, do I go in?
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Jordan: Do I not? It feels predatory.
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Jordan: You're nervous, but to her it's, oh, who's this creepy guy who's coming?
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Jordan: So don't do that. Just as soon as you see here, three second rule you go up from there, strong eye contact,
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Jordan: A little bit of a smile, especially with the eyes.
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Jordan: It's not way too excited, but it's just a little bit of a, hey, friendly.
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Jordan: And then I don't know if this relief falls under verbal or nonverbal, but your tonality
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Jordan: So again, the easiest way to focus on that, you do two things.
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Jordan: Or you can say anything like a question.
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Jordan: It's a statement of fact when you drop that tonality at the end.
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Jordan: It sounds insecure and needy when it's up talk at the end with a collet.
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Jordan: But the other side of it too is just kind of having internally and this is the easiest
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Jordan: This is going to go well, having back in the internal state and that'll take care of
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Jordan: A lot of the other things.
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Jordan: So I actually tell guys not to focus on too many of the nonverbal tactics.
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Jordan: Just focus on those two things. Drop the tonality because that one's huge and it's really easy to do.
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Jordan: It applies outside of dating as well, but then just focus on that pleasant internal state
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Jordan: Ham here to make a day better. Let's have a fun time.
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Jordan: Who are you?
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David: Man, all right.
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David: It's so fun rambling dude. It's the caffeine.
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David: Oh, no, you're good. All of it were important parts and it all coincide with what I asked.
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David: But I think something you said too.
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David: Recently I've been on this huge kick about how it's more important what you say to yourself
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David: Than it even as what you said other people.
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David: And it's been something I've been talking about a lot in the podcast too.
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David: I think what you're saying all ties together, right?
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David: You tell them to get their, you tell them to get their words over together, get their
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Jordan: Oh, is that your pickup line? Oh, do you say that to all the girls? Anything like that?
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Jordan: Yeah. If you're getting those tests, it's a good thing.
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Jordan: They're like, yeah, I'm going to take myself out today.
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Jordan: And they're like, no, I don't feel like it because they just have too many options.
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Jordan: And yeah, like you're doing something wrong. But if it's just like girl flakes every now and then or they flake on everybody,
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David: It's funny. The first part you said too, like the sales part of me woke up because even in sales,
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David: I don't think I can do that.
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David: A newer sales person is like, oh my gosh, I failed.
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David: So it's to your point. The same thing goes with women.
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David: If she's going to shit test you and like, even mess with you a little bit, she's
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David: So I think that's really a really good point.
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David: And dudes overlook that where they're like, why man, she wasn't
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David: I like me because she like said that to me.
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Jordan: No, it's a good.
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Jordan: Thing it means that like she has a standard and that you probably need it that's like I can't she has to be a little bit sure
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Jordan: You have some empathy for this woman. I think that's another big thing that guys should do more dating
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Jordan: She's just put themselves into the girl shoes. It's okay strange man. He seems attractive
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Jordan: I don't know people lie men lie especially especially in dating trying to get some pussy
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David: No, I don't trust you. It's like why are you so friendly? And are you this friendly to everyone?
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David: I think friendly. This is fine
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David: Like if a girl is happy to see you and you just check all her boxes cool, but it's like yeah
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David: Yeah, I don't know. I almost believe it's something's too easy. It might not be safe
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David: I don't know but I know I think that was a good point to in the second part you said was the no
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David: I think that's something that's understated too. So one of the things I did that really changed dating for me
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David: I'm not trying to do anything. All I want to do is like the exact same thing. I do with my guy friends
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David: Like all right, we're gonna go I hate bowling but like bowling's an example like we're gonna get it grouped together and go bowling
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David: Right, and it's I'm gonna talk to you the same way. I'm talking to George
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David: Or it's like I'm gonna talk shit to you and it's and I think that almost changed a lot of my perspective on women
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David: Because I stopped seeing women as like that old book like men are from Mars women are from being a ship
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David: Yeah, like I stopped seeing it like that and it's no they're just like in a lot of ways
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David: They're not that different they just are more like the world is more unsafe for them like there's more very key
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Jordan: Fundamental differences between men are that we do have more in common than not
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Jordan: Yeah, for just something that people need to or guys especially need to get through their head is that
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Jordan: But on the female friends side of things super important because again like a lot of guys just live in scarcity
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Jordan: It's good for you. It gets you out of that shit. Smoot. Okay. No, that's a good one and that's a simple thing too
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Jordan: Okay, let me ask you so if you've been as you've been like a dating coach
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Jordan: Can you kind of do an example of it? Yeah actually about that floating with the world those a little bit less than a week ago
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Jordan: After that the next day when she left I sat down with him. I was like dude. I'm not offended
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Jordan: I'm not mad that you were flirting and that's good do that in every single interaction with a woman the way that you were talking to me and my girl
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Jordan: That was flirting. He was like really I was like yes, that is exactly what you need to do and then now he went out
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Jordan: So I think he's got a couple of days lined up. I'm happy for it. Well, they go well. They wish it was like my clothes
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Jordan: But yeah, man, it's just like a lot of guys don't even necessarily say put so much
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Jordan: We're more afraid to talk and even joke about sex and guys are like so afraid that like man
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Jordan: It's like that teasing that I think a lot of guys lack because of that. Yeah, it's the playful nature
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Jordan: The place where guys fuck up and the guys who do get called creepy is they say the over the top shit
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Jordan: It was one of the worst periods that I went through in my own dating life and I look back on them like wow
381
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Jordan: I understand why I wasn't getting positive results
382
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Jordan: But I'd say with most guys just err on the side of being playful
383
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Jordan: I don't really mean it you can always walk it back to if you pick up on that vibe that's just a little bit uncomfortable
384
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,880
Jordan: Just walk it back like it my bad little bit too far and then just roll over it don't make it a big deal
385
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Jordan: You lead by example. Oh, hey overstapped no worries and go back into it. It should be fun
386
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,840
Jordan: But so funny you say that too because I had a I'm like a very serious person
387
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,200
Jordan: I know it I laugh a lot but overall I'm like super serious all the time
388
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,920
Jordan: So until I started having female friends I had no idea
389
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Jordan: I'll tease and joke playfully.
390
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,600
Jordan: And so it wasn't until I actually watched them interact with each other.
391
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,400
Jordan: When it was like just me and then it's three, four, five, six women hanging out.
392
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600
Jordan: And I'm just shutting the fuck up and just watching.
393
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,900
Jordan: They say the most outrageous sexual jokes all the time and then left.
394
00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,700
Jordan: And I was like, wait a minute. You can just say that.
395
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:23,200
Jordan: That's okay. And so once I started doing it to your point though, I still go too far sometimes.
396
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,100
Jordan: And then there's a dead silence.
397
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,500
Jordan: And I'm like, oh, so it just got real awkward in here.
398
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:29,900
Jordan: And I'm trying to say something like that and everyone.
399
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:30,900
Jordan: It brings that tension.
400
00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:35,900
Jordan: You're like, yeah, again, it's okay to make mistakes too as long as you just acknowledge
401
00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:36,900
Jordan: Out what that was gonna say.
402
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:42,100
Jordan: And what we're pretty forgetting as long as they recognize that, okay, he's not trying
403
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Jordan: To make us uncomfortable. He's not trying to be a great person.
404
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,100
Jordan: Yeah, it should be fun.
405
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:49,600
Jordan: No, I think too we forget like how much grace people actually are willing to give because
406
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,200
Jordan: A lot of people aren't willing to put themselves out there.
407
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200
Jordan: So when you are, it's like, all right, what you said was crazy as fuck.
408
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,800
Jordan: I can as long as you show, all right, you know what, that was too far.
409
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,800
Jordan: Most people will be like, I know, I say ridiculous stuff all the time.
410
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,800
Jordan: Hey, you almost said a bad thing there.
411
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,800
Jordan: I know. This close.
412
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:13,200
Jordan: Oh, that was another breakthrough moment for me actually personally was recognizing that
413
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Jordan: It's okay to be nervous specifically like when you're going to talk to a girl.
414
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,040
Jordan: And you see that beautiful woman and coffee shop and maybe you haven't been in a social
415
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,200
Jordan: Mood that day or whatever's going on.
416
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,920
Jordan: We as men all still get nervous even as a coach, even for anybody who is into the lore
417
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,080
Jordan: Of dating coach or anything, even mystery, Eric Von Markovick, he runs around here in
418
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Jordan: Scottsdale sometimes.
419
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Jordan: And one of my buddies went up to him and they went to Mars here and he was like, oh, hey,
420
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,960
Jordan: How are you doing, man?
421
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Jordan: And he was like, pretty good, but I'm kind of having some approachings I did right.
422
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,880
Jordan: So it happens to all of us.
423
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Jordan: The breakthrough for me though was it's okay to be nervous.
424
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,680
Jordan: Go anyways. You don't have to be perfect to have a positive interaction.
425
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,200
Jordan: You don't have to be perfect to get a date.
426
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,800
Jordan: You don't have to be perfect to get laid or get a girlfriend to get a wife.
427
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,440
Jordan: You can make those little mistakes.
428
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Jordan: You going up is way more important than anything.
429
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Jordan: So just in that moment feel that feeling usually for me, I feel like literally with my gut
430
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600
Jordan: And like, okay, physically there it is.
431
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,600
Jordan: That's okay. I'm going to go anyways.
432
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Jordan: And the past 10 times I've done it did really smooth interactions.
433
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,440
Jordan: It's like she's been happy that I've walked up.
434
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,080
Jordan: So if you guys ever have that feeling of, I don't know if I want to talk to this girl,
435
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Jordan: She's whatever. She seems like she's too busy.
436
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,560
Jordan: She seems like she wouldn't be interested.
437
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Jordan: She seems like she's in her own world, whatever.
438
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,800
Jordan: You just never know until you go up and say hi.
439
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,360
Jordan: So give yourself that permission.
440
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,520
Jordan: I'm nervous. It's okay.
441
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Jordan: Hey, what's your name? I feel like that's the beauty of being a man too, right?
442
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,200
Jordan: Is our entire responsibility to do the things that's Gareth?
443
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,240
Jordan: We're not doing something that scares us on a regular basis.
444
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,880
Jordan: Then are we even alive?
445
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,360
Jordan: And I feel like in a way, no, we don't even feel there's a level of a family we don't
446
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,160
Jordan: Have if we do the thing that's comfortable.
447
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600
Jordan: So I think I had a problem with that early on too.
448
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Jordan: I still get nervous in general.
449
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,920
Jordan: I'll just approach someone who I think is going to be a positive.
450
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,980
Jordan: That a business partner and I still know butterflies.
451
00:27:02,980 --> 00:27:06,340
Jordan: Early on I had a problem though, I would change the nervous next to excitement.
452
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:10,180
Jordan: So I would just grin. See, I'd be like, hey, it's so nice to meet you.
453
00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:11,940
Jordan: And a friend of mine literally pulled me to the side
454
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:15,140
Jordan: And he was like, dude, you're funny, you sound good,
455
00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:17,340
Jordan: You dress well, you got everything going for you.
456
00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:19,380
Jordan: You're smile's great, but you use it too much.
457
00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:22,340
Jordan: And I was like, what do you mean I use it too much?
458
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:24,500
Jordan: My smile's amazing, it's my best weapon.
459
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:28,900
Jordan: He was like, exactly. The problem is you just matter and you're grinning
460
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,780
Jordan: From ear to ear, what has she done to earn that smile?
461
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,100
Jordan: And that for me was like a breakthrough moment.
462
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,820
Jordan: Of a good reminder of wow, you're actually like,
463
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:38,660
Jordan: You have to remember people also need to earn
464
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:40,780
Jordan: The right to talk to you. Yeah, it's cool.
465
00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:43,740
Jordan: You approached her, okay, but her being cute isn't enough.
466
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:46,260
Jordan: You have to use the level of stoicism, then smile again
467
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:48,940
Jordan: And kind of to your point the same way you do with the tone.
468
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:51,100
Jordan: You have to flow through the conversation.
469
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,060
Jordan: You can't just be constantly excited.
470
00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:55,180
Jordan: I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but.
471
00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:57,740
Jordan: Yeah, having the emotional range is super important.
472
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,380
Jordan: As a man and again, being more stoic, being on the,
473
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:05,340
Jordan: So probably a big part of that problem is like,
474
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:09,700
Jordan: We're walking up to this girl and we're reacting to her beauty like nailing ear to ear.
475
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:14,260
Jordan: Facts to reactive. But if we walk up more interested, again,
476
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:17,020
Jordan: That's what a lot of guys fuck up as they walk up
477
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:18,620
Jordan: And they're already presold on the girl
478
00:28:18,620 --> 00:28:21,660
Jordan: Because she's beautiful. But if you walk up and you're like, okay,
479
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:23,460
Jordan: This is like me walking onto a car lot right here.
480
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:25,020
Jordan: I know that I'm interested in this force,
481
00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:27,380
Jordan: But I don't know if I want to buy it yet. Is the price right?
482
00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:29,620
Jordan: Is everything wrong with it? You have to figure all that out.
483
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:31,500
Jordan: You walk up, okay, hey, who are you?
484
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,700
Jordan: What's your deal? You're kind of trying to figure out who this girl is.
485
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,100
Jordan: Now, again, you have to establish that romantic premise first
486
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:42,020
Jordan: Because qualifying a girl as a friend versus qualifying her
487
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:45,740
Jordan: As a potential mate. Those are two different things, but you need to make sure,
488
00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:48,260
Jordan: Okay, this girl is worthy of my time
489
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:51,620
Jordan: If we are actually a fit. And that smiling ear to ear or that,
490
00:28:51,620 --> 00:28:54,340
Jordan: Oh my God, you're so beautiful. I want to take you home and do nasty things to you.
491
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,340
Jordan: Or the one of those is just two over the top.
492
00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:59,540
Jordan: It's two over the top without knowing who that is.
493
00:28:59,540 --> 00:29:01,420
Jordan: No, and I think that's also,
494
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:03,740
Jordan: That's what I mean. I think that was one of the best lessons too,
495
00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:06,620
Jordan: Is when I remembered that women were just people.
496
00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:09,100
Jordan: It's like fair plenty of guys I want to hang out with,
497
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,860
Jordan: No matter how great of a networker they are
498
00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:14,140
Jordan: And no matter how successful they are, where it's like, I just don't like this person.
499
00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:16,420
Jordan: It doesn't matter what they could offer me.
500
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:20,220
Jordan: I don't want to hang out with you. And I think it's important to remember women or people
501
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:22,780
Jordan: And when you approach her, it's a member she's a person.
502
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:25,380
Jordan: She could be great like you wanted to be
503
00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:27,820
Jordan: Or she could be absolutely terrifying.
504
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:31,420
Jordan: And so just, again, treat her as if you were just meeting
505
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:33,140
Jordan: Someone for the first time because you are.
506
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:35,660
Jordan: Not like you've already got her figured out because she's pretty.
507
00:29:35,660 --> 00:29:38,180
Jordan: I think that's good. So here's a good framework.
508
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,740
Jordan: I'm assuming a lot of the people who watch,
509
00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:42,620
Jordan: Let's switch to the guys who watch this are probably interested in sales.
510
00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:45,820
Jordan: I'm assuming you talk about the straight line and the podcast before, right?
511
00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:47,540
Jordan: Yeah, I've talked about sales all the week.
512
00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:51,140
Jordan: Parts of the business. So view your interactions as a straight line as well.
513
00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:52,740
Jordan: Basically, hey, we're starting out with the open.
514
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:55,500
Jordan: It doesn't matter too much what you say on the open.
515
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,700
Jordan: I tend to go semi-direct or indirect.
516
00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:59,860
Jordan: But again, you're just starting a conversation.
517
00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:03,000
Jordan: Then. Next piece is establishing that romantic premise.
518
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Jordan: Hey, this is a mental woman.
519
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Jordan: I have a wiener and you have the soft bits.
520
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Jordan: And if this goes well, there's a possibility that those interact.
521
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Jordan: You have to establish that. But don't go over the top of it, but you just make it clear.
522
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Jordan: OK, cool. This is romantic. And then it's qualifying.
523
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,960
Jordan: OK, is this girl the kind of girl that I want to be around?
524
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Jordan: From qualification, then you're building comfort,
525
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Jordan: You're establishing a story arc for you two.
526
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Jordan: Because hey, even if it's a one night stand,
527
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,400
Jordan: You want to go to her friends the next day
528
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Jordan: And be able to tell a positive story about, oh, my god,
529
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Jordan: We have all these things in common.
530
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Jordan: If it's such a romantic night, you need to have a little bit of that storyline.
531
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,280
Jordan: And then it's the close. But that's your straight line.
532
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Jordan: It's just those five steps. OK, cool.
533
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Jordan: Open, establish the premise.
534
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Jordan: Why the fuck are we here? Hey, do we like each other?
535
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Jordan: Do I like you? And then building that story and then closing.
536
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Jordan: I like that. That's actually a super useful way to apply the straight line.
537
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Jordan: Hopefully somebody gets something out of that.
538
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Jordan: If somebody gets a success out of that drop
539
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,360
Jordan: From the comments, I want to hear about it. I got some out of it.
540
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Jordan: And I think I think this, I think it's a good part
541
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Jordan: Till someone all up to. I think one of the best things you teach is,
542
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Jordan: I think a lot of guys complicate women in dating.
543
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Jordan: And I think a lot of what you're really
544
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,480
Jordan: Making clear is it's not actually that complicated.
545
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Jordan: Really just action. Just doing the stuff, messing it up, doing it again.
546
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Jordan: Yeah, imperfect action beats inaction every time.
547
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Jordan: So if you guys literally changed nothing about your approach,
548
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,520
Jordan: Nothing about your personality. Did not change a damn thing.
549
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Jordan: And all you did is just talk to 100 women.
550
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,960
Jordan: I guarantee you, at least a couple of them
551
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,200
Jordan: Will be your type and find you attractive as well.
552
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Jordan: So if you just talk to 100 girls, recognize it's not
553
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Jordan: Going to be perfect, but some of them are going to like,
554
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Jordan: You guys can find what you're looking for. Whether that's casual options, whether that's a girlfriend,
555
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Jordan: Or find somebody if you just pushed up out there.
556
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Jordan: I like you in person. Don't use fucking tinderbumble hinge.
557
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Jordan: Use those. They have no reason not to, but don't fucking rely on them.
558
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Jordan: Go talk to girls in person.
559
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Jordan: Not going to lie. I hate those things so much.
560
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640
Jordan: They were exhausting, especially as I started getting
561
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Jordan: Better photos and when my profile started looking better,
562
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Jordan: I actually started getting a lot of matches.
563
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,640
Jordan: And then I started realizing I was like, I don't actually want to go out with it.
564
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,440
Jordan: Yeah, dude, there's probably like 300 contacts
565
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Jordan: In my phone from daily apps.
566
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240
Jordan: And I got banned off of Tinder and Hinge about three years ago.
567
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,160
Jordan: But there's literally hundreds of contacts
568
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Jordan: In my phone from the dating apps. And most of them, I'm just like, you know, really
569
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,720
Jordan: What I'm looking for. Once you get those first couple of successes,
570
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Jordan: You're like, this is exhausting. I'd rather go talk to somebody who would
571
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Jordan: I know that I like. And I'll fuse them again.
572
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,320
Jordan: You can make it faster. For most dudes, you're not there yet.
573
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,200
Jordan: Are you fine? For most dudes, you're not there yet.
574
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Jordan: So hop onto the apps, get some good pictures.
575
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Jordan: You can absolutely meet some beautiful women there
576
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Jordan: At a long-term girlfriend that I met off of Tinder.
577
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Jordan: She was great. But again, once you have a little bit of success,
578
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Jordan: Get out into the real world. Actually, before you even have success,
579
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Jordan: Just do them. Do them all. Do social circle.
580
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Jordan: Do social media, do dating apps, do call the person.
581
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Jordan: They all work. They're all effective. There's no reason not to learn all the other skills.
582
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Jordan: Don't realize solely on one method.
583
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Jordan: No, a fact. Because that's what a lot of guys do is they'll just swipe
584
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Jordan: On the dating. a forever and hope that they get some matches that they can try to go out with.
585
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,440
Jordan: And those, the other thing is I feel like the dating
586
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600
Jordan: Add ones are more likely to flake on you too, where it's like when you meet a woman
587
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Jordan: In person, it's like, now she's all right, I can put a face.
588
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,440
Jordan: You didn't creep me out. I feel like he made me feel fairly safe.
589
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Jordan: Why not meet them? My dating app is, it's like, I just like, it goes to that story line too.
590
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Jordan: Right. When it comes to the girl, I get to tell herself and her friends.
591
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Jordan: Actually, the story is, you told us most important, but facts.
592
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Jordan: Yeah, I was bored and laying in bed one night and I swiped on this dude on Tinder
593
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160
Jordan: And then we ended up going out for a drink.
594
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680
Jordan: Yeah, and I can't work. But how much cooler is it?
595
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Jordan: Oh, yeah, we happened to bump into each other because we were both at whatever bar
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Jordan: Or we both had this kind of hobby or wherever you meet her.
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Jordan: Oh, yeah, there's this twist of fate.
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Jordan: There's so much more room. And take girls want to tell their friends about that.
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Jordan: Yeah, this handsome boy walked up to me at the bar and he really liked my skirt.
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Jordan: And then we ran into each other again.
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Jordan: It's like, those are cool stories.
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Jordan: Those are fun versus yeah, we swiped on the dating app.
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Jordan: It kind of feels a key. No, back man.
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Jordan: I appreciate it this time with you, Jordan. This event's yeah.
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Jordan: I feel like I've learned a lot and I'm sure all the listeners have learned a lot.
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Jordan: So I feel like the biggest takeaways mostly just take action.
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Jordan: If you improve nothing else, you talk to 100 women.
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Jordan: You're taking action. Something is going well.
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Jordan: You're going to end up winning and being if nothing else, a better person at the end
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Jordan: Of it. Also, you want to make your life better.
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Jordan: Make your life better. Make the way you look better.
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Jordan: Make the way you dress better. Go to the gym.
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Jordan: Become more successful. All those things will just make life better.
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Jordan: Also I think this goes to the premise of the podcast too.
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Jordan: Human interaction is better than no interaction or virtual interaction.
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Jordan: If you want to find the most success, get used to just interacting with people in your
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Jordan: Everyday flirt with everyone.
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Jordan: Make friends with everyone.
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Jordan: Again, turn. You get so used to flirting and making friends with everyone.
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Jordan: That high girl you want to go talk to, all of a sudden is not that intimidating because
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Jordan: She's just going to be another friend until whatever else you guys make each other.
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Jordan: So I think those are some of my biggest takeaways on all of there's anything else you want
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Jordan: The audience to take away. No, I'd say you hit the nail on the head.
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Jordan: You need abundance. That's the only other thing.
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Jordan: It's like whatever your goal is, whether it's short term, long term, or something in between,
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Jordan: You need to have good high quality options to get it.
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Jordan: Otherwise you're just relying on hope.
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Jordan: We're lying on hope is tough.
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Jordan: They got real deep real quick.
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Jordan: But you are right. With that being said, thank you so much again for joining us.
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Jordan: Jordan, can you tell us where can we find you for those of us who need help in the space?
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Jordan: How can we reach out to you and get your help?
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Jordan: Yeah. Follow me on Instagram, authentic.
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Jordan: That's the best way to get a hold of me.
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Jordan: There's a free PDF. I said that right.
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Jordan: Free PDF on the dating funnel on there.
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Jordan: I'm just message me funnel. I'll show it over to you.
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Jordan: If you guys are serious about taking that action, you want to change your dating life for
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Jordan: Good, click the link in that bio schedule call with me.
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Jordan: Throughout if you're a good fit for one on one coaching.
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Jordan: Fantastic. Also, we'll make sure to have the Instagram as well
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Jordan: As that link from your bio and what do you call as the bio?
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Jordan: Is it the summary and the summary of the podcast as well?
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Jordan: And if any of you guys watching want a free Instagram review
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Jordan: As well, just mention that you found us or found me on the podcast.
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Jordan: I'll give that to you guys for free. No problem.
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Jordan: I was a professional photographer for several years
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Jordan: As I mentioned at the beginning, I've done the whole media
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David: Thing. I will absolutely help you guys step your Instagram up for free.
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David: Just mention the podcast and I got you.
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David: Thank you, Jordan. And he is actually very good.
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David: He's given me a lot of advice on my Instagram.
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David: And my Instagram has come a long way. So thank you so much, Jordan, for taking the time
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David: To meet with us, speak with us.
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David: Again, everyone. This is the podcast conversations account.
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David: Make sure to like, share, subscribe, follow.
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David: One, both Apple podcasts, Spotify, and you can even
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David: Grab someone YouTube. So everyone have an amazing day.
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David: Forgive me, the one last thing I forgot to leave with,
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David: The takeaway that I want everyone to go take action on,
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David: Once they stop listening to this, go meet, walk up,
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David: Introduce yourself to five new people.
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David: If you're a woman listening, go introduce yourself
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David: To five new women, five new men. I don't care who it is.
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David: Start a conversation, take action.
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David: If you're a man, go up, introduce yourself to five new women
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David: Or five new, whoever you're interested in,
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David: Go introduce yourself to five of those people
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David: And start a conversation.
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David: Get to know them, build a relationship.
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David: I need everyone listening to go do that right now.
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David: Thank you all. Let's go out there with when, let's have some fun
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David: And let me know how it goes.
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David: Thank you everyone for watching another episode
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David: Of Conversations That Count.